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You were basically pushed out of Kazakhstan with a good portion of your forces hurt really bad and we all have forces there so we will simply continue to push you northward. You do not have any sort of control whatsoever at the moment and basically the war was going to continue. The only question is what do NG's force become...

Now see, this kinda thing makes it hard for me not to go on TOA is teh evil rants. Where in your decree does it say that you are supposed to help one of your allies take over another one of your allies?

Hey, sorry I havnt been posting much, my Comm class has a crap load of homework, ill have some posts up hopefully by Thursday.

how was I pushed out when the RP was frozen with my force's sitting a bit inside? I also had reinforcments coming in as well. (Also, I had Kazakh militants fighting inside the nation [Acknowledged by NG himself] and so it shouldn't be hard for me to get deeper in with german military having nothing to fight for anymore)

Thing is the RP continues from where it was frozen. I find it hard after that pummelling first strike that you suddenly just sidestepped all of our forces and suddenly control Kazakhstan...

You were basically pushed out of Kazakhstan with a good portion of your forces hurt really bad and we all have forces there so we will simply continue to push you northward. You do not have any sort of control whatsoever at the moment and basically the war is going to continue. The only question is what do NG's force become...

how was I pushed out when the RP was frozen with my force's sitting a bit inside? I also had reinforcments coming in as well. (Also, I had Kazakh militants fighting inside the nation [Acknowledged by NG himself] and so it shouldn't be hard for me to get deeper in with german military having nothing to fight for anymore)

Also, im contesting O.K's claim on Kazakhstan. Fuck if im gunna let him walk in and take what is rightfully mine now. Im sorry O.K. I never wanted any conflict with you but I have to if this is how it's goin down.

Well so be it..as one crazy Soviet Premier once said

"WE WILL BURY YOU!"

Or I just take everything by force and that will remove any possibility of me helping you out in your conquest for Khazahstan (not that I am saying that I will help you out for certain the way things are right now).

well if I give you Khakhassia and Gorno-Altay in exchange for a new alliance would that settle things? The help is up to you, but you do still have military barreling down on me.

OH COME ON, you have enough claim with all those lower than that. You can at least give me Kazakhstan. I want no quarrel with you, if you can just let it go then we can finally end this conflict.

There was no way we were letting you get Kazakhstan even when NG wasn't deleted there's no way in hell we're going to let you get it now. RP unfreezes, fight continues. We'll have to figure out some disposition for NG's forces but I doubt they'll just lay down their arms and scream to your nation just as I doubt yours would do the same if we invaded your lands. I don't see them entirely embracing the TOA nations either, they had their own sense of nationality. I definitely think they'd sue for their own independence even after a victory against you.

Well so be it..as one crazy Soviet Premier once said

"WE WILL BURY YOU!"

OH COME ON, you have enough claim with all those lower than that. You can at least give me Kazakhstan. I want no quarrel with you, if you can just let it go then we can finally end this conflict.

OH COME ON, you have enough claim with all those lower than that. You can at least give me Kazakhstan. I want no quarrel with you, if you can just let it go then we can finally end this conflict.

I am sorry, you have no idea how Kazakhstan is vital to my nation and my friends...you have one warning back down now or face total war.

Thing is the RP continues from where it was frozen. I find it hard after that pummelling first strike that you suddenly just sidestepped all of our forces and suddenly control Kazakhstan...

fine, fine. You have military there. I get that but you can't ignore the fact that a major element in your safty, I.E. the german's, now have no air cover, no ground cover and left it all up to your force's which unless they are an army in themselves my army along with any element of the germans that has turned against you, and the kazakh insurgency loyal to me (once again, acknowledged by NG so don't bitch) you have your work cut out for you

fine, fine. You have military there. I get that but you can't ignore the fact that a major element in your safty, I.E. the german's, now have no air cover, no ground cover and left it all up to your force's which unless they are an army in themselves my army along with any element of the germans that has turned against you, and the kazakh insurgency loyal to me (once again, acknowledged by NG so don't bitch) you have your work cut out for you

you are right, you do have loyalists there, I'm not disputing that fact whatsoever:

"There are rumors of Kazakhstani civilians loyal to the cause of Nerotika who are armed with AK-47s and AK-74s who sneak into tents at night and slaughter entire platoons in their sleep. Right now it is 10:37 PM and I've got one hand on this pen and the other on my SG-48."

NG even said it there and what not. But the war continues...it's just a shame it's taken this to unfreeze the RP.

I am sorry, you have no idea how Kazakhstan is vital to my nation and my friends...you have one warning back down now or face total war.

well...what is with everyone screwing me over because they say the land is important to them. Shit if that works then I should just invade Rome's northern territories because those were former Nerotikan imperial lands...I won't cause im not a Whore Bag and rome is a cool guy but still, cot took my land cause he said it was his in the first place and it was imporatant. I let that slide but this, this is just BULL SHIT

You can have all the others with any complain but Kazakhstan is mine, whether you bitchs want it or not. I have a viable arguement, one that no matter how much you bitch still stands. And I have reason now to control it (You said yourself you want it so you can "...maintain law and order and insure the transition is not chaotic" well waging a war is pretty chaotic) Not to mention your claim on almost everything else...

well...what is with everyone screwing me over because they say the land is important to them. Shit if that works then I should just invade Rome's northern territories because those were former Nerotikan imperial lands...I won't cause im not a Whore Bag and rome is a cool guy but still, cot took my land cause he said it was his in the first place and it was imporatant. I let that slide but this, this is just BULL SHIT

You can have all the others with any complain but Kazakhstan is mine, whether you bitchs want it or not. I have a viable arguement, one that no matter how much you bitch still stands. And I have reason now to control it (You said yourself you want it so you can "...maintain law and order and insure the transition is not chaotic" well waging a war is pretty chaotic) Not to mention your claim on almost everything else...

Nero, nobody is invalidating your contestation claim, you can contest and you have and the RP unfreezes and the war continues. The RP will decide it.

well...what is with everyone screwing me over because they say the land is important to them. Shit if that works then I should just invade Rome's northern territories because those were former Nerotikan imperial lands...I won't cause im not a Whore Bag and rome is a cool guy but still, cot took my land cause he said it was his in the first place and it was imporatant. I let that slide but this, this is just BULL SHIT

Yes apparently so its bs...but as the saying goes "Might is Right." With that being said...TOA as strong invest interest in that region and will not stand by and allow it to fall into nations like your..no offense. Its nothing personal...its just business.

Yes apparently so its bs...but as the saying goes "Might is Right." With that being said...TOA as strong invest interest in that region and will not stand by and allow it to fall into nations like your..no offense. Its nothing personal...its just business.

I don't plan on ruining any interest. Im not Pushka I will keep any line of trade you have open. I don't care...I just dont want to get screwed over...please reconcider, there has to be a way I can get you to back down.

Infact, this could be a way to provide better relations between the CSN and the TOA. I'll even allow you to govern it as long as it's still under my control. Or maybe joint control? half and half...something?

Yes apparently so its bs...but as the saying goes "Might is Right." With that being said...TOA as strong invest interest in that region and will not stand by and allow it to fall into nations like your..no offense. Its nothing personal...its just business.

*cough* I think the BS lies in how SUDDENLY pre-existing Conflicts must be completed.. Ie - in the scenario someone goes D12.

Oh, and -

Why is my status here more top secret than the exact specifications and location of the Aurora Project?

Perhaps we found World War II? The thing in Aus, Central Asia, oo let's make a big fuck fest :).

I don't plan on ruining any interest. Im not Pushka I will keep any line of trade you have open. I don't care...I just dont want to get screwed over...please reconcider, there has to be a way I can get you to back down.

The only way that this situation can be defuse without arm conflict is if you back down..I am sorry, its been decided by TOA to keep that region in TOA. Its not up to me to change that decision on a dime.

rant okay so far, let's just keep it civil still... :)


goddamn time warp!

well if I give you Khakhassia and Gorno-Altay in exchange for a new alliance would that settle things? The help is up to you, but you do still have military barreling down on me.

No ah, how about I take all of his Russian lands in that region and make sure that then you loose in Kazahstan they don't decide to go up north and start grabbing the land you have right now? You either give em up, we sign a new peace treaty, I get my guys out of your lands and vow to defend you incase their counterattack spreads beyond Kazakhstan, or I bomb your capitol and also take those 4 lands by force and maybe even help them in taking you out. I have been waiting for that land to open up for a long, long time and I am not missing this opportunity. As far as technicalities are concerned I have the primary claim to those 4 territories as I have posted my claim in this thread and you have never done the same. Lay can give you a quote if you need one.

Primary claim...those territories to the east, plus I had a thread down first.

I said i'de give you those two territories, don't make this more complicated.

Thing is he posted the actual claim in specifics in the thread before your post and when you put the post you still didn't put any specifics. The only thing, thus far, that you have specified is your contestation over Kazakhstan. It isn't a question of who gets the post up first. It goes claim -> post in 24 hrs -> no post claim invalid but because you can contest it doesn't entirely matter who gets what first and what not. In technicalities yes he does have the primary claim. When a contestation is made to a claim, it basically levels the field and the only way anyone gets the land is in two scenarios: RP decides the fate, someone backs down.

another timewarp!

...anyway I don't care about the rest of that land just Kazahkstan and the territories that NG owns to my east which I would like to claim concidering my current 'war' against him giving me presidence to invade quickly.

Primary claim...those territories to the east, plus I had a thread down first.

I said i'de give you those two territories, don't make this more complicated.

I vote for...




WWAAAAAARRRRR!

rant okay so far, let's just keep it civil still... :)


goddamn time warp!

im trying to keep it civil, I just wish I wasn't getting screwed over here.

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Any chance this would work....I know I took alot and I'll give up the central one as well if you agree with it. Please this is the only other way I can see this going down other then war.

Yes! YES! YES!

WAR! WAR! WAR! WAR!

im trying to keep it civil, I just wish I wasn't getting screwed over here.

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Any chance this would work....I know I took alot and I'll give up the central one as well if you agree with it. Please this is the only other way I can see this going down other then war.

The RP shall decide the fate.....let loose the dogs of war...

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Changed...:confused: please?

I love you...?

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Changed...:confused: please?

I love you...?

I don't swing that way..

Here we go. This is a chance now. Let an RP decide the fate rather than anyone backing down and getting the "raw end." RP decide the fate, that's the nature of NS!

I don't swing that way..

Oh you will...soon enough...I like to convert it's like a challenge :D

Primary claim...those territories to the east, plus I had a thread down first.

I said i'de give you those two territories, don't make this more complicated.

Okay, I am not making this complicated. I am taking all FOUR of those territories, am I understood? Novosibirsk included.

Oh you will...soon enough...I like to convert it's like a challenge :D

Right...you keep thinking that....

Okay, I am not making this complicated. I am taking all FOUR of those territories, am I understood? Novosibirsk included.

well...concidering the thread I posted already, im sorry but I cannot allow that.

You chose not to aide me in this conflict against NG, instead you chose to help him. I say if thats how you wanna play then that's how we'll play. I've been nice lately...not anymore. No more conservatism from my forces, I lost out on Pantheaa, and that fall of whatever nation it was that was kinda roman and yet not really o.O im not missing out on this

Nah, linetrap will make you gay.

Look hshe up.

Yes, hshe.

So it seems...i've become everyone's enemy, I'de say hooray if this was a good thing but no, its not. Hopfully I can find an ally somewhere, one that actually wont betray me like you Push...

So it seems...i've become everyone's enemy, I'de say hooray if this was a good thing but no, its not. Hopfully I can find an ally somewhere, one that actually wont betray me like you Push...

Me going to go to the RP Autumn Offense and let's unfreeze the thing. I'll do a quick summary based on all of the posts. This way we know what's going on in it.

Me going to go to the RP Autumn Offense and let's unfreeze the thing. I'll do a quick summary based on all of the posts. This way we know what's going on in it.

Here's a summary, I invaded...NG declared war and began to fight back. TOA force's bombed me, Cotland fired rockets at Kirov (No longer my capital now) and then we got frozen only a few miles inland at a standstill between german forces and mine which were being reinforced at the end, with NG gone there is no counter-invasion so Im going to push forces across the border east and west.

well...what is with everyone screwing me over because they say the land is important to them. Shit if that works then I should just invade Rome's northern territories because those were former Nerotikan imperial lands...I won't cause im not a Whore Bag and rome is a cool guy but still, cot took my land cause he said it was his in the first place and it was imporatant. I let that slide but this, this is just BULL SHIT

You can have all the others with any complain but Kazakhstan is mine, whether you bitchs want it or not. I have a viable arguement, one that no matter how much you bitch still stands. And I have reason now to control it (You said yourself you want it so you can "...maintain law and order and insure the transition is not chaotic" well waging a war is pretty chaotic) Not to mention your claim on almost everything else...

Time warps don't work in Earth II. There is no way you can reasonably claim that the countryside goes from a war with definitive battle lines to instantly under your countrol. You can offer up political spin via your government that "claims" you control it but you haven't done anything to drive out TOA forces from the lands so even if you claim it, you don't "control it". Now I suggest you fire up your keyboard and begin to RP the war thread again. I will be posting my status tomorrow in the thread and if OK wants Khazastan he is going to get it. Its really that simple.

Time warps don't work in Earth II. There is no way you can reasonably claim that the countryside goes from a war with definitive battle lines to instantly under your countrol. You can offer up political spin via your government that "claims" you control it but you haven't done anything to drive out TOA forces from the lands so even if you claim it, you don't "control it". Now I suggest you fire up your keyboard and begin to RP the war thread again. I will be posting my status tomorrow in the thread and if OK wants Khazastan he is going to get it. Its really that simple.

ya know what...fine, take it

Kazakhstan is Ottoman's. I don't give a fuck. No matter what I do if im not TOA im nothing here so instead im going to focus on my real problem and thats Pushka who seems to be wanting to try to piss me off. I'll change my post in the thread now, all force's will leave Kazakhstan to O.K. control and instead move into the eastern territories to fight off any federation attacks that may come. Along with this, artillery in the Kirovian state here-by has order's to target on federation troops in Kirov, Kirovian guard are to mobilize and head toward the federation military. You wanted this Pushka...not me...

ya know what...fine, take it

Kazakhstan is Ottoman's. I don't give a fuck. No matter what I do if im not TOA im nothing here so instead im going to focus on my real problem and thats Pushka who seems to be wanting to try to piss me off. I'll change my post in the thread now, all force's will leave Kazakhstan to O.K. control and instead move into the eastern territories to fight off any federation attacks that may come. Along with this, artillery in the Kirovian state here-by has order's to target on federation troops in Kirov, Kirovian guard are to mobilize and head toward the federation military. You wanted this Pushka...not me...

I think that's a bad option. You should not just back down from the RP. It was a good RP and it has a good chance to be a really good RP. Continue it man. I'm being honest here, I admired you there standing up for it and sticking up for it and I say fight for it.

I think that's a bad option. You should not just back down from the RP. It was a good RP and it has a good chance to be a really good RP. Continue it man. I'm being honest here, I admired you there standing up for it and sticking up for it and I say fight for it.

yes, I fight for it then pushka come's in and entirly fucks me over. I can't defend from two fronts especially when push already had troops in the Kirovian state. Too many challanges and I don't have enough troops to go around. I lost half my airforce against NG and the other half will most likely fall to push, my ground forces are unorganized so im trying to deal with that...I have no chance in hell of defending Kazakhstan from the TOA and the eastern territories from Push.

well...concidering the thread I posted already, im sorry but I cannot allow that.

You chose not to aide me in this conflict against NG, instead you chose to help him. I say if thats how you wanna play then that's how we'll play. I've been nice lately...not anymore. No more conservatism from my forces, I lost out on Pantheaa, and that fall of whatever nation it was that was kinda roman and yet not really o.O im not missing out on this

So be it, thats what I get for trying to save your ass against your own will. Meh, whatever, I say bring it, waiting for you to post your Orbat. We're going to RP this in the thread you previously started or are we going to start a new thread?

I have two proposal's I stay in Kazakhstan and defend, as long as I get Novosibirsk and Altay-Kray or I pull out and defend entirly those lands from Push.

First off Pushka I gave you Tomsk in the first place, if you want those territories just because you want them to connect then you being a whiny bitch. And second, you have so much random land, also you try to claim every second you can, you really need to just back off and take what I offered you. Come on man, you can't really be this hard headed.

So be it, thats what I get for trying to save your ass against your own will. Meh, whatever, I say bring it, waiting for you to post your Orbat. We're going to RP this in the thread you previously started or are we going to start a new thread?

the thread I posted before, we can scrape...im mixed up now because everyone wants this to become complicated. If you could just back down and take those two territories then we can settle things down a bit but no you just have to have it ALL...

yes, I fight for it then pushka come's in and entirly fucks me over. I can't defend from two fronts especially when push already had troops in the Kirovian state. Too many challanges and I don't have enough troops to go around. I lost half my airforce against NG and the other half will most likely fall to push, my ground forces are unorganized so im trying to deal with that...I have no chance in hell of defending Kazakhstan from the TOA and the eastern territories from Push.

Nero, you aren't seeing the bigger picture. Make any TOA victory phyrric man.

This really is just a rant, take it however you want...

Pushka, you own land in Mexico, south america and all across russia already. You have land that is entirly seperated from your mainland (Former pantheaan) and yet you want to fuck things up here just cause you can let two territories go? Last I checked I though there was no world domination goal in EII and yet you seem to act like there is. PLEASE for the love of god (or whatever entity you believe in, if you do) back up and look at this from my perspective. You come in and bully me cause you think you can, im not your bitch man I dont just bend over and take it. I accepted you reason for the wanted to take my land instead of NG taking it but now you have no reason to want this other then your self obsorbed and want complete control cause you think your a P.I.M.P., I know this rant wont get throught...you've made you mind up and im sure thats how its going to go down. But if you could reconcider this once maybe, just fucken maybe, we can refocus ourselves against the major threat of TOA which right now just claimed more then half the globe.

Final decision, i'll continue my attack in Kazakhstan (New thread will be posted cause I just basically screwed the other one up) and leave it up to Push whether he'll just suck it up and take the two territories I offered up or be a bitch and go for it all...basically im only claiming Novosibirsk and Altay-Kray and taking off my claim of the other two, I also counter-claim Kazakhstan from O.K. and the remaining TOA...Orbat will follow here and then transfer to the new thread when I post it later on.

Final decision, i'll continue my attack in Kazakhstan (New thread will be posted cause I just basically screwed the other one up) and leave it up to Push whether he'll just suck it up and take the two territories I offered up or be a bitch and go for it all...basically im only claiming Novosibirsk and Altay-Kray and taking off my claim of the other two, I also counter-claim Kazakhstan from O.K. and the remaining TOA...Orbat will follow here and then transfer to the new thread when I post it later on.

Just continue in the old thread no need for a new one :). It's already got a lot in it [Kazakh & Russian stuff].

Hmm, I see this from your perspective perfectly, but can you see it from mine? You go to war against TOA without telling me a thing, knowing that I will eventually get dragged into it one way or another. True you were expecting me to be on your side in the NG thing, but the thing is that ultimately I was. Instead of sitting around and waiting for NG to take you out I gave you a way out, temporarily become a Federal subject until things comes down and then you're free to self-govern all you want (that was one of my later additions to that proposal don't know if that got through to you) then you for some reason refused it I called for a ceasefire to once again attempt to save your ass. I do want those territories and i do not need an ally that does not act rationally and attempts to exploit me. Btw I am about to let those western most territories go to the newbs, just like I let my part of Brazil go to Rome after I already absorbed
it, Russia is the priority in my land gathering everything else is just resources to trade with (except Mexico now I guess).

Nerotikan Military ORBAT

Kazakhstan (Devoted Troops: 1,430,000 = )

Breakdown - First force's in
Army Infantry: 610,000
Nerotikan Marine Infantry: 320,000
Armored Corp.'s : 500,000
-Merkava Mark IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava)
-Armored Transport Truck
-Boxer AFV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_MRAV)
-9K37 Buk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-11_Gadfly)

i'll break it down alot more in the thread...my mind just drew a large fucking blank

Hmm, I see this from your perspective perfectly, but can you see it from mine? You go to war against TOA without telling me a thing, knowing that I will eventually get dragged into it one way or another. True you were expecting me to be on your side in the NG thing, but the thing is that ultimately I was. Instead of sitting around and waiting for NG to take you out I gave you a way out, temporarily become a Federal subject until things comes down and then you're free to self-govern all you want (that was one of my later additions to that proposal don't know if that got through to you) then you for some reason refused it I called for a ceasefire to once again attempt to save your ass. I do want those territories and i do not need an ally that does not act rationally and attempts to exploit me. Btw I am about to let those western most territories go to the newbs, just like I let my part of Brazil go to Rome after I already absorbed
it, Russia is the priority in my land gathering everything else is just resources to trade with (except Mexico now I guess).

but I just see a problem with you wanted all four, see if I can claim those two I want then I have a good point at which I can put forces into Kazakhstan, those other two I don't really care about they are connected more to you then me so I don't care about them. Novosibirsk and Altay Kray are more strategic then anything else, plus it'll provide some military resources from what I can capture from ze germans. I have not once tried to exploit you, not once were you even threatened in this conflict...infact if you didn't shut off you part of that line no one would have even noticed you in this, you could have easily stepped back and let them butt fuck me cause I made the mistake of doing it myself, instead you wanted everyone to pay attention to you so you had to get involved youself. NG never would have threated you any more then cotland has recently, which from what I see is none. In fact your new buddy buddy policy with the TOA seemed to work for you until you cut off that line and made everyone say "Oh hey, the federation wants some attention." like your a baby vying for a mothers eye.

Come on man, I see no reason as to why you need to threaten me, infact will anyone else here support me on this cause I feel like im going fucking crazy. If Pushka never cut off his section of that line, and never got involved would any of you even have looked at him and tried to get him involved?

Nerotikan Military ORBAT

Kazakhstan (Devoted Troops: 1,430,000 = )

Breakdown - First force's in
Army Infantry: 610,000
Nerotikan Marine Infantry: 320,000
Armored Corp.'s : 500,000
-Merkava Mark IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava)
-Armored Transport Truck
-Boxer AFV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_MRAV)
-9K37 Buk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-11_Gadfly)

i'll break it down alot more in the thread...my mind just drew a large fucking blank

No sense doing it right now. Do it tomorrow, it's 01:00 est and what's that midnight where you are?

No sense doing it right now. Do it tomorrow, it's 01:00 est and what's that midnight where you are?

12:00 central...yeah I just have that so I can build on it tommorrow, now im just gunna sit here, argue until hopfully pushka can listen to me resonably and watch howard stern TV ^.^

edit - (oh and I was trying to figure how much my devoted troop amount would be in percentage to my military amount as a whole...think you can help with that lay, im not really a math person)

Since I missed out on the claims early on, I'm willing to trade for the following territories:

-France (No. 1)
-Switzerland (No. 1)
-Spain
-Portugal
-the Algerian coast

I shall also put in a claim for Morocco (thus completing the *actual* Western Roman Empire) and the rest of Louisiana that NG had taken control of. I'm also willing to offer up another part of my territories for newbies just so I can take Romania (I *am* Roman, after all...).

I would also like to encourage members of the October Alliance to leave as much land as possible open this way we can give others a chance as well as hold some land for newbies. If that is agreeable, I'd like to recommend the Baltics and Balkans for newbies but, again, technically all of this land is open.

I thought it'd make more sense to leave open countries like Germany, France, Austria, Spain, Poland, etc. since those are always popular choices, although I recognize they're somewhat big.

You were basically pushed out of Kazakhstan with a good portion of your forces hurt really bad and we all have forces there so we will simply continue to push you northward. You do not have any sort of control whatsoever at the moment and basically the war is going to continue. The only question is what do NG's force become...

I do think Nerotika would have a head-start once the RP resumes, since a significant part of who he's battling is now out of the picture and now he faces less resistence. Whatever new forces you have coming in will take some time to meet Nero's forces.

I do think Nerotika would have a head-start once the RP resumes, since a significant part of who he's battling is now out of the picture and now he faces less resistence. Whatever new forces you have coming in will take some time to meet Nero's forces.

I love you rome...you deserve a hug

12:00 central...yeah I just have that so I can build on it tommorrow, now im just gunna sit here, argue until hopfully pushka can listen to me resonably and watch howard stern TV ^.^

edit - (oh and I was trying to figure how much my devoted troop amount would be in percentage to my military amount as a whole...think you can help with that lay, im not really a math person)

That's an easy thing. Take your total troop numbers and divide your devoted troops into it. For instance if you have a populace of 20,000,000 and you have a military force of 2,000,000 (10%) and you devote 650,000 you are devoting 32.5% of your force to the attack.

I do think Nerotika would have a head-start once the RP resumes, since a significant part of who he's battling is now out of the picture and now he faces less resistence. Whatever new forces you have coming in will take some time to meet Nero's forces.

Trust me I'm not saying he is totally completely out of the game [hence my encouragement for him to continue] but there are a significant amount of troops already in there prior to the freeze that simply can't be sidestepped and the fate of NG's forces would simply be to just dissipate [on the whole], especially not in the face of said invasion.

Trust me I'm not saying he is totally completely out of the game [hence my encouragement for him to continue] but there are a significant amount of troops already in there prior to the freeze that simply can't be sidestepped and the fate of NG's forces would simply be to just dissipate [on the whole], especially not in the face of said invasion.

well I understand that, but I did play a propaganda campaign at the same time so I have support of some Kazakh people (Who's to say the kazakh's in the german military didn't fall under the same idea) I get that I can't just side-step the german military, and i'll address them in the new thread...or in the Autumn offensive since that's where we should continue the war. I will however be recruiting any german soldier's who would rather continue to serve protecting Kazakhstan or go into Nerotikan prisons (Which most likely idea's of them have not changed since the soviet days...meaning most people would probably preferr to join up then go into what they would think of as a very unforggiving system [although I've revamped the entire thing])

The whole recruiting thing could also become a good aspect to this RP...that'll come up later though

well I understand that, but I did play a propaganda campaign at the same time so I have support of some Kazakh people (Who's to say the kazakh's in the german military didn't fall under the same idea) I get that I can't just side-step the german military, and i'll address them in the new thread...or in the Autumn offensive since that's where we should continue the war. I will however be recruiting any german soldier's who would rather continue to serve protecting Kazakhstan or go into Nerotikan prisons (Which most likely idea's of them have not changed since the soviet days...meaning most people would probably preferr to join up then go into what they would think of as a very unforggiving system [although I've revamped the entire thing])

The whole recruiting thing could also become a good aspect to this RP...that'll come up later though

Indeed it will but take into account a lot of dimensions of Germanian people. They're fiercely nationalist, German pride all of the way, and they would no sooner be ruled by an October Alliance nation than they would anyone else. What gives us an edge to it is simply the alliance and its history with the Reich. I gave a good description of the Germanian peoples' mentality in Ottoman's thread. It's based on the many conversations NG and I have had about his nation versus my nation, et cetera.

Indeed it will but take into account a lot of dimensions of Germanian people. They're fiercely nationalist, German pride all of the way, and they would no sooner be ruled by an October Alliance nation than they would anyone else. What gives us an edge to it is simply the alliance and its history with the Reich. I gave a good description of the Germanian peoples' mentality in Ottoman's thread. It's based on the many conversations NG and I have had about his nation versus my nation, et cetera.


well I only have to worry about the military, unless thousands of Germans immigrated into Kazakhstan. But although he has nationalist views it usually doesn't impose itself on the population of people who are not of the race that is nationalized. I think, actually with this new light that most likely Kazakh people will be more supportive of outside rule while its the german military that'll fight back. Infact I could gather a large support of Kazakh insurgents fighting the germans because of said nationalism in the german ranks. You can't tell me there isn't some Kazakh resentment toward germans, if they are as proud in themselves as that then they most likely didn't treat the kazakhs with much respect...

I dont know, just something to think about. (Also, if its how I preseive it then most kazakhs would be more willing for outside occupation then leaving it in the hands of german allies who they fear might treat them like second class citizens as well)

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Indeed it will but take into account a lot of dimensions of Germanian people. They're fiercely nationalist, German pride all of the way, and they would no sooner be ruled by an October Alliance nation than they would anyone else. What gives us an edge to it is simply the alliance and its history with the Reich. I gave a good description of the Germanian peoples' mentality in Ottoman's thread. It's based on the many conversations NG and I have had about his nation versus my nation, et cetera.

Still, though, without NG that part of the forces Nerotika is fighting against is taken out of the picture or should be "easier" to fight against since the loss of the motherland would be a heavy, heavy shock. There has to be some kind of adjustment period within the warzone.

well I only have to worry about the military, unless thousands of Germans immigrated into Kazakhstan. But although he has nationalist views it usually doesn't impose itself on the population of people who are not of the race that is nationalized. I think, actually with this new light that most likely Kazakh people will be more supportive of outside rule while its the german military that'll fight back. Infact I could gather a large support of Kazakh insurgents fighting the germans because of said nationalism in the german ranks. You can't tell me there isn't some Kazakh resentment toward germans, if they are as proud in themselves as that then they most likely didn't treat the kazakhs with much respect...

I dont know, just something to think about. (Also, if its how I preseive it then most kazakhs would be more willing for outside occupation then leaving it in the hands of german allies who they fear might treat them like second class citizens as well)

Assuming that "is" a godmod, because you're imposing actions on a people that aren't your own. You can't say that because they're Kazakh they wouldn't be loyal to North Germania- they very well could be (just for RL example, see how many different ethnicities here in Canada are loyal to the Government). I do realize how the Kazakhs themselves would act, without NG, is something the RPers will have to work out since it will effect the thread.

Assuming that "is" a godmod, because you're imposing actions on a people that aren't your own. You can't say that because they're Kazakh they wouldn't be loyal to North Germania- they very well could be (just for RL example, see how many different ethnicities here in Canada are loyal to the Government). I do realize how the Kazakhs themselves would act, without NG, is something the RPers will have to work out since it will effect the thread.

Eh, just trying to discuss things and get a better idea of this culture. The reason I say what I say is because no one has defined the specific "german" person so I assume simply that the german nationalist views were one's of European desent and those ruling over the Kazakh people might treat them less then because of this ideaology.

No godmod sence nothing's really been done here...damn canadian -.- lol

Actually, if I recall correctly from various RPs and conversations with NG, he played his nation as preferential to people of Germanic decent (Germans, Austrians, Swiss), as in giving them preferential treatment and such, but I don't think he mistreated any group of his populace intentionally. Therefore, it isn't unlikely that the Kazhaks would be negative to their Germanian overlords - Kazhakstan was one of the most important parts of NG's lands, and he poured countless billions into it and really developed it, something which would make the populace very regime-friendly.

Actually, if I recall correctly from various RPs and conversations with NG, he played his nation as preferential to people of Germanic decent (Germans, Austrians, Swiss), as in giving them preferential treatment and such, but I don't think he mistreated any group of his populace intentionally. Therefore, it isn't unlikely that the Kazhaks would be negative to their Germanian overlords - Kazhakstan was one of the most important parts of NG's lands, and he poured countless billions into it and really developed it, something which would make the populace very regime-friendly.

wait...if it isn't unlikely then that makes it likely but if their regime-friendly then that nulls out the likelyness of it, your words...they confuzzle o.O

Just noticed someone claimed Albania, which is part of the Balkans which cannot be claimed by anyone but new people.

Anyway, I have just thought up a possible, controversial, addition to the rules. How about instead of having one limit for land, we could have two. One limit for land which is contiguous to the nations capital, and one much harsher one for land such as colonies, which are separate to the mainland.

I claimed Albania.
I guess if the Balkans are for new players I'll give it up, thats no problem.

ill take offers for my part of Algeria Rome.

Ok so this is my understanding of whats going to go down in Kazakhstan. I'll push a larger force over the border (This should be an easy task since most german forces probably arn't maintaining a defensive order, I would think they would rather fight after being attacked then going and looking for a fight)

German force's will still be an enemy of mine, I will acknowledge that but I would like to increase insurgent forces in the Aazadi organization since the group would offer an organized orderly manner in a time where things seem to be chaotic, aazadi groups would also be attempting to take over control of city governments at this time...key word "Attempt" so as to not cause "OH TEH GODZ HE IS GODMODDING!"

Nero the situation with those 4 territories still stands, back off or you're toast.

On a lighter note I am releasing control of my western most Russian territories to the newbs. No more leverage over me Cot, MUAHAHAHAHA! Btw Cot I need to talk to you about something hopefully we'll be able to get it out of the way this weekend.

Nero the situation with those 4 territories still stands, back off or you're toast.

On a lighter note I am releasing control of my western most Russian territories to the newbs. No more leverage over me Cot, MUAHAHAHAHA! Btw Cot I need to talk to you about something hopefully we'll be able to get it out of the way this weekend.

you have strange ways with dealing with people...I can't just let them go. I chose to give up two already and continue in Kazakhstan but the other two are important now and I refuse to surrender them to you just cause you want them. I lost out on my chance for pantheaan territory, of which cotland and you ate up right quick so I will not loose this chance now.

Nero the situation with those 4 territories still stands, back off or you're toast.

On a lighter note I am releasing control of my western most Russian territories to the newbs. No more leverage over me Cot, MUAHAHAHAHA! Btw Cot I need to talk to you about something hopefully we'll be able to get it out of the way this weekend.

I'll try to be on AIM after 7 PM CET tonight, but no promises. Got some Arabic homework that needs doing (see if I can make out the seperate letters inside an Arabic sentence, write a few sentences, stuff like that).

i think the current trend is for people to be headed to Canada, because I'll be away in Montreal for this coming weekend [woohoo!].

So if you want to see me in person, try looking very hard on Google maps over Montreal this weekend!

And Cot, I have not had time since classes began to reply to whatever is written in India [assuming that something was written...], but I hope to get to it when I come back!

you have strange ways with dealing with people...I can't just let them go. I chose to give up two already and continue in Kazakhstan but the other two are important now and I refuse to surrender them to you just cause you want them. I lost out on my chance for pantheaan territory, of which cotland and you ate up right quick so I will not loose this chance now.

That works, can you repost the link to that thread of yours?

That works, can you repost the link to that thread of yours?

gunna need to just add the claim in the Autumn offensive when that gets going again, i'll post in there soon (That other thread is pointless since the Autumn Offensive war would include any attack to the german territories to the east.

Just hold your horses, im getting to the post here after im out of school and im done with the dentist.

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Rome you and I can sit down and talk about North Africa, Spain and Portugal after the RPing the takeover and this kazack thing ends. As far as Morocco, I believe its in my column (been in my control for some time now). Its helps me monitor the goings on in and out of the straits of Gibraltar. I don't know if I would be willing to give that up but like I said we may be able to work something out, just let us wade throught these various RP's first.


-Hawdawg

Just noticed someone claimed Albania, which is part of the Balkans which cannot be claimed by anyone but new people.

Anyway, I have just thought up a possible, controversial, addition to the rules. How about instead of having one limit for land, we could have two. One limit for land which is contiguous to the nations capital, and one much harsher one for land such as colonies, which are separate to the mainland.

I claimed Albania.
I guess if the Balkans are for new players I'll give it up, thats no problem.

Albania was excluded from it with Romania [though that was added by OK after he decided to let it free]. If Hirgy were to give up on Albania it too would go to the list and by newbs we mean new people [i.e. no land so you are correct new people].

In reference to the Autumn Offensive, Nerotika were would you say your troops have pushed forward to before the thread froze? 10-15 miles into Khaz. along the southern border?

Its been so long since we visited this thread I am trying to get a feel for where you would be so I can RP this thing properly.


-Hawdawg

ill take offers for my part of Algeria Rome.

Don't forget Doom's portion remains unclaimed.

Nero the situation with those 4 territories still stands, back off or you're toast.

On a lighter note I am releasing control of my western most Russian territories to the newbs. No more leverage over me Cot, MUAHAHAHAHA! Btw Cot I need to talk to you about something hopefully we'll be able to get it out of the way this weekend.

We need newbies...let's recruit peoples! All welcome and, to show good faith, let's let them adjust before anyone invades them...ah-hem!

Food For Thought
While Yugoslavia was under totalitarian control everyone got along, there was peace, and things were hunkey-dorey. When Yugoslavia broke up, everyone suddenly hated each other and the Balkans because the world's largest shitstorm next to Israel. North Germania was a totalitarian state ruling the Balkans and now it is independent.

I'm half tempted to ditch all my other lands, and form a Montenegran Empire...

But anyway, does anyone have any opinions on my proposal for the land limits? Obviously there would be some flexiblity to the definition of contiguous, for example in Lay's case not all of his American land is contiguous, they are clustered along the east coast.

Can I claim the part of Liberia that's was Tyrandis'?

Albania was excluded from it with Romania [though that was added by OK after he decided to let it free]. If Hirgy were to give up on Albania it too would go to the list and by newbs we mean new people [i.e. no land so you are correct new people].

I'll give up Albania for the newbs.

I'm half tempted to ditch all my other lands, and form a Montenegran Empire...

But anyway, does anyone have any opinions on my proposal for the land limits? Obviously there would be some flexiblity to the definition of contiguous, for example in Lay's case not all of his American land is contiguous, they are clustered along the east coast.

That land would be reserved for players who aren't already on E2 is what I'm saying. I will propose the idea to Mari and we will respond with our decision but it is a good suggestion that we'll review.

Can I claim the part of Liberia that's was Tyrandis'?

Yes you could. You are under 1m mi²

I'll give up Albania for the newbs.

Alright, add it shall I.

I think a good idea of contiguous would be land that can be traveled too (without touching foreign soil) by means of land/sea travel. This would be a change in the actual definition but for us here it would be a good thought since in the EOL's case he had islands and such and his empire is almost a line down the american continents. [In my case, the lower territories would be a governed colony.]

You should also lable an island that is uninhabitable by a non-military or something other than a tribal population a colony [this way we don't have one single ruler of any ocean, keeping it a wide international area]

Hm. Ok then I once again put up my claim for the entire Algerian nation. I'll add it into LoS in my next post to secure such a claim, itll just be a little out-of-place in my storyline.

Nevertheless I should recheck my land area though.

I'm half tempted to ditch all my other lands, and form a Montenegran Empire...

But anyway, does anyone have any opinions on my proposal for the land limits? Obviously there would be some flexiblity to the definition of contiguous, for example in Lay's case not all of his American land is contiguous, they are clustered along the east coast.

I personally believe it's godmodding to state how well a country can manage their territories logistically...technology today means communication isn't a problem, transportation isn't a problem, building infrastructure isn't a problem, etc. The countries of Europe built extensive, non-contiguous colonial empires in the 18th and 19th century (with the British having a land area total higher than we're allowed here) and you can't tell me that's impossible to do now. Besides, the way *I* run my nation, I have many different "countries" all belonging to a federation- they're not "strictly" colonies.

Maybe it's better to re-set the limit back to 4 million square miles but allow those who've already got more than 4 million to keep what they have (or, if they acquire new lands to give up territory to stay at roughly the same size they had before). This could even be temporary until the "smaller countries" grow.

Also, how about this- every time new territory comes up, the smaller countries get the first crack at it, then- if there are no takers- the bigger countries can take the land. That way the smaller countries don't lose out on expansion just because they didn't log on at the right time.

Also, how about this- every time new territory comes up, the smaller countries get the first crack at it, then- if there are no takers- the bigger countries can take the land. That way the smaller countries don't lose out on expansion just because they didn't log on at the right time.

This is a pretty good suggestion. I'd support this.

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This is a pretty good suggestion. I'd support this.

Thanks. :)

Anyway, Hirg, I really want to make an offer to you for France, as I really want to recreate the actual "Western Roman Empire" and that country is vital to that.

Thanks. :)

Anyway, Hirg, I really want to make an offer to you for France, as I really want to recreate the actual "Western Roman Empire" and that country is vital to that.

You mean the Holy Roman Empire?

You mean the Holy Roman Empire?

No, really, the Western Roman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_Empire). Several times from the third century onward, the RL Roman Empire was divided in half- the Western half ruled at first from Rome then from Milan and ultimately Ravenna (yeah I know...how can the Roman Empire not be ruled from Rome?), while the Eastern half was ruled out of Constantinople (who later became what we now know as "the Byzantine Empire", although the actual Byzantines never used that term- they were through-and-through Romans). I RP as a continuation of the Western half (hence the "W" in my name), deviating from history a year before the actual West fell- 475, when the RL Emperor at the time (Julius Nepos) got a bit more luck than he actually did and restored the West to its former glory (something I believe he would have done if not for a few precarious decisions and situations), but also allowing it to co-exist with Byzantium.

Hence why I want France, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Switzerland and the Algerian coast (actually, I'll throw in there Slovenia, Bosnia and Croatia), because that's the exact territory. I just have to figure out how to make it all work, because I will have to give up land.

I noticed I have not formally claimed North Germania's other half of Louisiana...I shall do that now. The RP will be in "The Winter War".

Rome, talk to me via TG's about what your proposing.

In any case I want to bring order to the territories I have claimed before I would consider hander them over.

New Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548200

Its about myself and Pushka formalizing diplomatic relations.

No, really, the Western Roman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_Empire). Several times from the third century onward, the RL Roman Empire was divided in half- the Western half ruled at first from Rome then from Milan and ultimately Ravenna (yeah I know...how can the Roman Empire not be ruled from Rome?), while the Eastern half was ruled out of Constantinople (who later became what we now know as "the Byzantine Empire", although the actual Byzantines never used that term- they were through-and-through Romans). I RP as a continuation of the Western half (hence the "W" in my name), deviating from history a year before the actual West fell- 475, when the RL Emperor at the time (Julius Nepos) got a bit more luck than he actually did and restored the West to its former glory (something I believe he would have done if not for a few precarious decisions and situations), but also allowing it to co-exist with Byzantium.

Hence why I want France, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Switzerland and the Algerian coast (actually, I'll throw in there Slovenia, Bosnia and Croatia), because that's the exact territory. I just have to figure out how to make it all work, because I will have to give up land.

Yeah....we kicked some Byzantine ass back in the day, first Kniaz Oleg took Constantinople nailed his shield to the gates and gave it back in exchange for goodies then Kniaz Vladimir took Crimea and married a Byzantine princess in the process baptising the whole country (980AD), he got the rights for our merchants, the Byzantine Empire had to let them in, provide housing for the winter, etc. Then a certain Byzantine consul who's name I do not remember who was an ambassador to Kniaz Yaroslav (bad ass dude, destroyed the tatars [not the mongols, other tatars] and some other insignificant assholes, I think Yaroslav was his name its been a while since I picked up a Russian history book), told Yaroslav that he was going to violently replace the current Byzantine Emperor and was Yaroslav to help out by taking a certain city the new Emperor would let him keep it without any trouble from the Empire. That didn't work out the consul got pwned, Yaroslav took the city and held it while being surrounded by the Emperial forces for a year I think, he wanted to make it the center of his own kingdom, then eventually he withdrew but the Emperor paid one of the two remaining nomadic slavic tribes and they killed Yaroslav as he was riding to Kiev, the legend goes that the kniaz of that tribe made a golden challice out of Yaroslav's skull. Naturally Yaroslav's sons went to war against each other for the control of their father's kingdom and it all went down hill from there, then the mongols attacked, then Moscow emerged and bitch slapped everyone into submission. But before that Alexander Nevsky bitch slapped the German knights out of Eastern Europe.

And that is why I recommend everyone pick up a history of Russia book, its a compelling novel.

Hirgy I'll put a post up tomorrow (actually later today since its already 1 am), head pulsing right now. God bless whoever made Tylenol.

Happy Birthday to me
Happy Birthday to me
Happy Birthday dear Spizania
Happy Birthday to me
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Happy Birthday to me
Happy Birthday to me
Happy Birthday dear Spizania
Happy Birthday to me
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happy birthday? congrats, and you would be how old (mine's on superbowl sunday, 18 bitchs...ya know im gunna be fucked up all weekend)

Sorry to everyone who is waiting on me to post, Hirgy, Lay, Nero, I have been extremely busy, I will try to squeeze some stuff in then I have time later this week.

RomeW, I've sent you a TG.

happy birthday? congrats, and you would be how old (mine's on superbowl sunday, 18 bitchs...ya know im gunna be fucked up all weekend)

Also eighteen, had my party last friday though, apparently i got wasted very quickly on vodka and started hitting on my best friend's girl...... But hes not upset because as far as anyone can remember nothing happened and he knows how much of a lightweight I am

Also eighteen, had my party last friday though, apparently i got wasted very quickly on vodka and started hitting on my best friend's girl...... But hes not upset because as far as anyone can remember nothing happened and he knows how much of a lightweight I am

lol, gunna take alot to get me to that point. I can down them quick ya know, I blaim the irish in me (and my taste for tequila on my mexican side). Gunna get myself a keg and try to down it with 7 or 8 people in one sitting...of course there will be another 'substance' that I personally cannot have a party without :D

Actually, if I recall correctly from various RPs and conversations with NG, he played his nation as preferential to people of Germanic decent (Germans, Austrians, Swiss), as in giving them preferential treatment and such, but I don't think he mistreated any group of his populace intentionally. Therefore, it isn't unlikely that the Kazhaks would be negative to their Germanian overlords - Kazhakstan was one of the most important parts of NG's lands, and he poured countless billions into it and really developed it, something which would make the populace very regime-friendly.

NG also told me once that his Population is Dispersed. This was back in either 06 or 05, so I don't know as to what level you guys will even recognize that. Anyways, he apparently shifted the Western Europeans Eastward into Poland and such, and the Eastern Europeans Westward. Focused on 'destruction' of Cultures, and/or just intermixing it into a Germanic-Heavy Culture.

In other words, too, Kazakhstan wouldn't be 100% Kazakh..of course..but it'd have a good number of Western Europeans settled there. If anything, a Germanic-based Faction would want Independence from both Nerotika and TOA, but would be more favorable towards TOA Occupation and Aid.

Also to Note - Didn't he reprocess the Eiffel Tower? >.>

Sorry to everyone who is waiting on me to post, Hirgy, Lay, Nero, I have been extremely busy, I will try to squeeze some stuff in then I have time later this week.

Yes man Totalis needs its revenge!

happy birthday? congrats, and you would be how old (mine's on superbowl sunday, 18 bitchs...ya know im gunna be fucked up all weekend)

lol, gunna take alot to get me to that point. I can down them quick ya know, I blaim the irish in me (and my taste for tequila on my mexican side). Gunna get myself a keg and try to down it with 7 or 8 people in one sitting...of course there will be another 'substance' that I personally cannot have a party without :D

Hey Nerotika hate to be a bringer of bad news but before you get "toasted" this weekend you have some posting to do in the Kazakhstan thread. I know the EOL and OK have actively engaged your positions. We can't do much more until you post something. If you don't get something going soon, I am going to start moving troops south to actively engage you.

-Hawdawg

lol, gunna take alot to get me to that point. I can down them quick ya know, I blaim the irish in me (and my taste for tequila on my mexican side). Gunna get myself a keg and try to down it with 7 or 8 people in one sitting...of course there will be another 'substance' that I personally cannot have a party without :D

Pfff....half a gallon of vodka in half an hour, quadruple shots, I can also chug a 2.5 liter bottle of Stepan Razin (Russian beer) in 7 seconds. I blame the Russian in my Russian ass.

Pfff....half a gallon of vodka in half an hour, quadruple shots, I can also chug a 2.5 liter bottle of Stepan Razin (Russian beer) in 7 seconds. I blame the Russian in my Russian ass.

do you even have a liver anymore?

I don't know it hasn't returned my calls for the past few years.

With that sense of humor I can see why Russians drink so much.

With that sense of humor I can see why Russians drink so much.

Thanks? I am actually funny according to most people I know, its mostly accent based though if I am speaking english, Russian humor is a lot different of course.
Why am I talking about this? Why you got to shoot me down man!?

On the note of drinking, Montreal was great: two shots of limoncello, five shots of Absolut, one shot of Bacardi, a couple of stuff of other stuff, all on Saturday night. Unfortunately, I spent most of the night sleeping in the bathtub (no pool of vomit yet though)...

And we did something productive too...

You guys should try Irish Carbombs-
Pint of Guiness with a shot of whiskey (or three) in it (no Scotch, Irish or Bourbon only), and you down it all in one. My record is about 7 or 8 seconds but thats because I can open my gullet, i.e. I can force my throat muscles open for longer than they should and the stuff just flows down. Really dangerous, but if you can learn it you'll never be beat at drinking!

By the way- are there Pint glasses in America? Becuase the last time I was there I asked for a large Miller and got some kind of mug that wasn't all that big. Is Guiness at least served in a proper pint glass?

You guys should try Irish Carbombs-
Pint of Guiness with a shot of whiskey (or three) in it (no Scotch, Irish or Bourbon only), and you down it all in one. My record is about 7 or 8 seconds but thats because I can open my gullet, i.e. I can force my throat muscles open for longer than they should and the stuff just flows down. Really dangerous, but if you can learn it you'll never be beat at drinking!

By the way- are there Pint glasses in America? Becuase the last time I was there I asked for a large Miller and got some kind of mug that wasn't all that big. Is Guiness at least served in a proper pint glass?

In my city we got plenty of places where when you ask for a pint you get a pint, and we have some actual Irish bars with Guiness served correctly. I just wish I could go to a bar, ya know cause we american's gotta be so fucken different we just gotta make it illegal for under 21 (Whilst the rest of the world is 16 or 17 and such...basically I would be able to right now in any other country) not to mention our random renaming of the thousands of years old game of futbol cause we would rather make a game where you hardly touch the ball with your feet and call that football. isn't american way of life just grand?

Hey Nerotika hate to be a bringer of bad news but before you get "toasted" this weekend you have some posting to do in the Kazakhstan thread. I know the EOL and OK have actively engaged your positions. We can't do much more until you post something. If you don't get something going soon, I am going to start moving troops south to actively engage you.

-Hawdawg

don't worry, I know what I need to do. Give me until this friday cause i've been working on 'Loyalty' on word and im nearly finished with chapter 3 so I can post chapters 2 and 3 in bulk also the remaining amount of chapter 1

Nero so how are the things between me and you, our conflict, I imagine you want me to start it off?

Once some girl dumped a load of vodka into a pint of guiness i was drinking at another party...... that was wierd..... :p My Irish half mourns for so much wasted Guiness.......
And I must go to a pub at some point... since im niice and obey the laws :p

Hirgy thread updated, Lay I'll try to get it done tomorrow I got another boatload of homework heading my way tonight.

You guys should try Irish Carbombs-
Pint of Guiness with a shot of whiskey (or three) in it (no Scotch, Irish or Bourbon only), and you down it all in one. My record is about 7 or 8 seconds but thats because I can open my gullet, i.e. I can force my throat muscles open for longer than they should and the stuff just flows down. Really dangerous, but if you can learn it you'll never be beat at drinking!

By the way- are there Pint glasses in America? Becuase the last time I was there I asked for a large Miller and got some kind of mug that wasn't all that big. Is Guiness at least served in a proper pint glass?

Yeah we have those here in NYC that's for sure but we don't call it a pint. If you go to a bar and ask for beer on tap you'll get it in a pint glass. My buddy once did 4 Irish carbombs in the space of an hour, after God knows what else he had downed that evening. He hurt the next morning, bad. You can keep the Guiness just give me the whiskey, or scotch, or bourbon. HAHA! Yeah I'm not a fan of Guiness but Killians and I have a close relationship.

Nero so how are the things between me and you, our conflict, I imagine you want me to start it off?

well actually yes, I forgot to stick in my invasion of the east territories in that last post in autumn offensive but i'll stick that in tonight, don't gotta work so I guess i'll skip writing Loyalty long enough to get a decent invasion of those lands and reinforce my men in Kazakhstan, also attack Aqtobe (or what ever that city name is spelled correctly)

Oh, and to answer any confusion about petropavl, my men will have breached the city in this post as well. Im planning on militarizing the city using Aazadi insurgents and army regulars for street support.

In my city we got plenty of places where when you ask for a pint you get a pint, and we have some actual Irish bars with Guiness served correctly. I just wish I could go to a bar, ya know cause we american's gotta be so fucken different we just gotta make it illegal for under 21 (Whilst the rest of the world is 16 or 17 and such...basically I would be able to right now in any other country) not to mention our random renaming of the thousands of years old game of futbol cause we would rather make a game where you hardly touch the ball with your feet and call that football. isn't american way of life just grand?

Actually, there are plans to make the legal age 21 in Britain. In Ireland its 18, as in most of Europe aswell, not 16 or 17. Problem is, it doesn't stop people drinking, no matter what the legal age is. I first got drunk at 14 and spent four years going to parties and smoking and binge drinking dangerously. I stopped doing all that damage when I was 18, but then started it all again in College (University), but I did a lot worse and had some really bad experiences in my 1st year. After one particular night (in which I passed out in the middle of a road walking home at 3am) I packed it in.

I drink in moderation now. It took nearly five years to learn a lesson, but I did, one my Grandfather should have and my Dad still needs to learn.

Point is, the laws don't really matter. Everybody has different experiences and eventually, probably, they'll learn restraint, if not well...thats their problem.

Hirgy thread updated, Lay I'll try to get it done tomorrow I got another boatload of homework heading my way tonight.

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Actually, there are plans to make the legal age 21 in Britain. In Ireland its 18, as in most of Europe aswell, not 16 or 17. Problem is, it doesn't stop people drinking, no matter what the legal age is. I first got drunk at 14 and spent four years going to parties and smoking and binge drinking dangerously. I stopped doing all that damage when I was 18, but then started it all again in College (University), but I did a lot worse and had some really bad experiences in my 1st year. After one particular night (in which I passed out in the middle of a road walking home at 3am) I packed it in.

I drink in moderation now. It took nearly five years to learn a lesson, but I did, one my Grandfather should have and my Dad still needs to learn.

Point is, the laws don't really matter. Everybody has different experiences and eventually, probably, they'll learn restraint, if not well...thats their problem.

well eh, still its the fact that I need to be a specific age to do a specific thing...i've never been a fan of age restrictions on things like smoking and drinking, I figure kids are gunna do it whether its legal or not so why make the hassle of having it strait up illegal for a certain age group. If I want to drink then I should be allowed to drink, why should I be told what I need to do? Oh well, it don't phase me much just pisses me off that I have to have an outside party purchase my shit (Usually for a fee of whatever change is left) rather then doing it myself, which is why im happy to 18 and now I can get my own smokes.

This concept also goes with my hatred of anti-drug laws. I understand them when its a harmful substance but you claim marijuana is a deadly drug of satan is a bit...no its more then a bit...much. I don't want to go into a hippy rant about legalizing it but I do think that if the government produced it and sold it they would kill the 'illegal' trafficking from the mexican and canadian border plus they could make some money off it, and if its the health hazzard they are worried about then why not complain about ciggerette's too? Also, for those that don't know getting high is like being drunk but being alot more calm, I drive 100% better high because I can concentrate alot more on the task at hand rather then having my mind wondering around while im driving...ok so gunna stop before I flood this with my pro-legalization rants ^.^

This concept also goes with my hatred of anti-drug laws. I understand them when its a harmful substance but you claim marijuana is a deadly drug of satan is a bit...no its more then a bit...much. I don't want to go into a hippy rant about legalizing it but I do think that if the government produced it and sold it they would kill the 'illegal' trafficking from the mexican and canadian border plus they could make some money off it, and if its the health hazzard they are worried about then why not complain about ciggerette's too? Also, for those that don't know getting high is like being drunk but being alot more calm, I drive 100% better high because I can concentrate alot more on the task at hand rather then having my mind wondering around while im driving...ok so gunna stop before I flood this with my pro-legalization rants ^.^
Nah, it just fucks up your brain while cigarettes "only" fucks up your lungs.

Both of the statements you made in that second highlighted sentence speak very strongly against you driving. In fact, you shouldn't have gotten your driver's license in the first place. You should stop driving before you find that you've permanently stopped smoking weed, drinking, and...what was that last part again... Oh yeah, breathing.

Seriously I doubt highly you are a better driver when under the influcence of a drug that alters your senses.

Though I don't mind Bud, I don't think it should be legal. American's (I can vouch) are already to lazy to begin with. Nevertheless it is a drug and it does alter your being and when people like you say they can drive...well that is a little scary.

Also I don't mind the drinking age being 21. Though I hardly ever drink (ironicly I am a bartender), I hear a lot of stories about the breif period where the drinking age was lowered. Imagine being 21, 25, or older and sitting next to a group of baby faced 17 year olds. When you are 14-19 or whatever you drink simply to get drunk and act like an idiot because you are..... immature ta da. I know it sounds cheesy but perhaps if American test scores improved and drunk driving related accidents declined I'd reconsider but as of now if the age was lowered it would be a woeful mistake.

On a sidenote against my previous statement: I'll take Crown Royal over just about anything.

VIVE THE UNITED KINGDOM, WHERE THE DRINKING AGE IS FIVE!
ALL GLORY!
And those plans to raise the age to 21 are about as likely to get through the commons and the lords as the act of parliament required to activate the 1928 Easter Act or the act to dump us onto continental european time

Cotland, are you the type that buys into the anti-marijuana BS without trying it? Cause really anyone who hasn't smoked once should have no say in whether it impares your ability to do anything really...now things effect people differently, I have a higher concentration when I smoke but when I drink I become retarded...period, when im posting things on here im usually just sitting down and writting but when I actually put thought into what I post you'll see an almost different way in how I go about things, it seems almost more thought out.

now im only angry about the drinking age cause im underage...so thats just how I think right now. Sure I understand why there is a legal age limit I just hate it is all. But as for bud, I mean whether you smoke or not if you actually looked into it you'de find that it has been in culture for hundreds of years and yet suddenly one american drug enforcer decides (Because the mexicans are bringing it abundently into the US) that it should no longer be legal so they could curve the amount of mexican immigration into the country. I don't know about the other nations, but im supposing it started with the US. Maybe it is fucking up my brain, but I am still able to think as I have my entire life although my memory is bad but thats a problem I've had since before smoking. But I see no point in argueing the remainder of this...im too high now anyway :D.

On a sidenote to brink: I don't really drink just to get drunk, I enjoy just sitting back with a beer...personally I like the taste...and would prefer that over hard alch anytime. But if you wanna go into the hard stuff man, break out the SoCo (Southern Comfort) or maybe produce yourself a little green dragon, look it up on wiki if you want to know what it is. :p

Also the idea of a drug is a very vague one. Really anything can be a drug, sex brings a pleasureable state of mind (an alteration) and so does a toy being given to a child. World of Warcraft freaks play the game like an addiction, this game actually has a death toll (suicidal toll but still a death toll) and could be concidered a drug while even EII which some of you have put so much time and effort into, brings you pleasure as well and that could be concidered a drug. Just cause I smoke my drug doesn't make it any different then whatever you do to get your fix, if you can define a drug that specifies only those mind altering substances that are recognized as drugs then you deserve a cookie...go watch the beginning sequence to 'Layer Cake' and you'll get this more

Layer Cake Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5tDsmXKI6Q)

Nero, the reason why I'm so staunchly against drugs is because a friend of the family, a very good driver when sober, was driving along on the road one evening a few years agp after having smoked a joint and slammed into a bus driving on the other side of the road. If you've ever heard of a bus vs car head-on collision you would know that they rarely turn out favorably for the guy in the car, which is what happened here. He was tossed out of the seat, flew twenty-five meters and died instantly. All because of a joint of "innocent" marijuana. I would hate for that to happen to you, which is why I strongly recommend you lay off that bad habit before it gets you hospitalized, paralyzed or even worse, killed.

And no, I have never tried the stuff, nor will I. Read the above once again if you still don't understand my sentiments.


SL, I've been thinking a little on assasination methods that we can use to kill Singha. I was thinking we'd have a meeting which would result in a sort of treaty to be signed (of course a worthless treaty), and we supply the pen. Naturally the pen isn't really a pen, but rather a small amount of a powerful plastic explosive which will kill anything within a meter of it. When Singha is going to sign it, using the pen we offered (it'd be considered an insult not to use it when offered), the bomb will be detonated, killing Singha. I'm figuring he might live long enough for the assassin (who was standing well clear of the blast) will have enough time to go up and say something along the lines of "This is for South India" or "The Realm always gets its revenge" or something like that before Singha expires. Shortly after that, the Royal Marines move in and rescue the Royal Family, and it's back to business as usual in Saint Lazare. Sound good?

Also the idea of a drug is a very vague one. Really anything can be a drug, sex brings a pleasureable state of mind (an alteration) and so does a toy being given to a child. World of Warcraft freaks play the game like an addiction, this game actually has a death toll (suicidal toll but still a death toll) and could be concidered a drug while even EII which some of you have put so much time and effort into, brings you pleasure as well and that could be concidered a drug. Just cause I smoke my drug doesn't make it any different then whatever you do to get your fix, if you can define a drug that specifies only those mind altering substances that are recognized as drugs then you deserve a cookie...go watch the beginning sequence to 'Layer Cake' and you'll get this more

Layer Cake Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5tDsmXKI6Q)

Definition: Drug
Drug
Noun

1. A substance that is used as a medicine or narcotic.

Verb

1. Administer a drug to; "They drugged the kidnapped tourist".

2. Use recreational drugs..

well eh, still its the fact that I need to be a specific age to do a specific thing...i've never been a fan of age restrictions on things like smoking and drinking, I figure kids are gunna do it whether its legal or not so why make the hassle of having it strait up illegal for a certain age group. If I want to drink then I should be allowed to drink, why should I be told what I need to do? Oh well, it don't phase me much just pisses me off that I have to have an outside party purchase my shit (Usually for a fee of whatever change is left) rather then doing it myself, which is why im happy to 18 and now I can get my own smokes.

This concept also goes with my hatred of anti-drug laws. I understand them when its a harmful substance but you claim marijuana is a deadly drug of satan is a bit...no its more then a bit...much. I don't want to go into a hippy rant about legalizing it but I do think that if the government produced it and sold it they would kill the 'illegal' trafficking from the mexican and canadian border plus they could make some money off it, and if its the health hazzard they are worried about then why not complain about ciggerette's too? Also, for those that don't know getting high is like being drunk but being alot more calm, I drive 100% better high because I can concentrate alot more on the task at hand rather then having my mind wondering around while im driving...ok so gunna stop before I flood this with my pro-legalization rants ^.^

BIG MYTH. While alchohal may make you tired, cigarettes are a stimulant meaning they actually hype you up, not calm you down. It does NOT make you a better driver; quite the contrary. And to answer your question about why, it's because YOUR BRAIN IS STILL DEVELOPING, as your knowledge about the harm of drugs. IF THOSE THINGS HAVE A MAJOR AFFECT ON YOUR BRAIN GROWTH, YOUR SKREWED FOR LIFE

And no, I have never tried the stuff, nor will I. Read the above once again if you still don't understand my sentiments.


Agree with Cotland. The only time I've had alchohal was wine at First Communion(and it honestly wasn't that good). I'm not touching any of that shit in my life.

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On another note, Layarteb, the Russia map needs to be updated. It still has Lame Bums on it.

well actually yes, I forgot to stick in my invasion of the east territories in that last post in autumn offensive but i'll stick that in tonight, don't gotta work so I guess i'll skip writing Loyalty long enough to get a decent invasion of those lands and reinforce my men in Kazakhstan, also attack Aqtobe (or what ever that city name is spelled correctly)

Oh, and to answer any confusion about petropavl, my men will have breached the city in this post as well. Im planning on militarizing the city using Aazadi insurgents and army regulars for street support.

Meanwhile my troops are still near Kirov so I expect that we'll use fluid time here effectively and not say have you claim that you were able to pull a megaton of reinforcements to the city while my guys were parked just outside. I'll start shelling once I have some time, maybe today.

Drugs are whack! Stay clean or I'll beat you.

Cotland, are you the type that buys into the anti-marijuana BS without trying it? Cause really anyone who hasn't smoked once should have no say in whether it impares your ability to do anything really...now things effect people differently, I have a higher concentration when I smoke but when I drink I become retarded...period, when im posting things on here im usually just sitting down and writting but when I actually put thought into what I post you'll see an almost different way in how I go about things, it seems almost more thought out.

As someone who tried weed quite a few times and who hasn't smoked for about a year now I don't get the point of weed. It gets me a little more relaxed (and I tried different varieties of the shit) but that just increases my hate for loud people ten fold, meanwhile most of my friends get retarded as fuck thus making me angry as they randomly shout things, at the end of the night I am the asshole who punches Kenny in the face for seemingly no reason....yeah.....anyways, weed is a waste of my time and money.

now im only angry about the drinking age cause im underage...so thats just how I think right now. Sure I understand why there is a legal age limit I just hate it is all. But as for bud, I mean whether you smoke or not if you actually looked into it you'de find that it has been in culture for hundreds of years and yet suddenly one american drug enforcer decides (Because the mexicans are bringing it abundently into the US) that it should no longer be legal so they could curve the amount of mexican immigration into the country. I don't know about the other nations, but im supposing it started with the US. Maybe it is fucking up my brain, but I am still able to think as I have my entire life although my memory is bad but thats a problem I've had since before smoking. But I see no point in argueing the remainder of this...im too high now anyway :D.

Drinking age in this country is bullshit especially then contrasted against that in Russia which is ridiculous. I get wasted every day for two months strait in Russia then I come back to US feeling confident and I can't even buy a bottle of your watered down piss you for some reason call beer, honestly my actual piss has a higher percentage of alcohol then your bud lights and bush lights. Miller Light I am not going to say anything against, I found it very good in Russia after a heavy night of drinking, it actually feels nice, smoking a cig drinking a Miller, sitting on a bench infront of the village store right by the village waterpump, checking out the ladies, a cool draft hitting my face, its nice.

With all the vodka you drink Pushka I believe your urine could pass for napalm.

Everyone, I want you to pay close attention to the next few posts in Ride the Lightning. Why? You ask. Well, I am going to make you even more afraid of the sinister character Jack Delaney than you already are. His twisted psyche is going to truly bring about a deliverance to Mogadishu that will not only consume it in its entirity but spark a global epidemic.

With all the vodka you drink Pushka I believe your urine could pass for napalm.

I am not really drinking that much lately actually, first work had me too tired, now work and school left me with no time. I still try to go down to the university I attended last year atleast once every two months to drink with my buddies and whatever college chicks they'll invite over, but its just not the same anymore. I need to go back to Russia to rejuvenate my badassness.

I am not really drinking that much lately actually, first work had me too tired, now work and school left me with no time. I still try to go down to the university I attended last year atleast once every two months to drink with my buddies and whatever college chicks they'll invite over, but its just not the same anymore. I need to go back to Russia to rejuvenate my badassness.

Dude you live in the south. Just go find some of those mountain men and get some badassness for yourself. They eat bark off the tree and shit.

I claimed whatever's left of Libya about 10 pages ago and all of you seemed to ignore me.

I would like to claim Eastern Algeria and Nunavut.

I claimed whatever's left of Libya about 10 pages ago and all of you seemed to ignore me.

This is the only claim back there that you posted. Nothing about Libya [which is Hirg. territory]. Perhaps you meant Liberia? That is available [well half of it] that is Tyrandis' territory. Eastern Algeria and Nunavut would be yours without any strings attached as they're both free claimable. Liberia, on the other hand, you would have to do an RP for Tyrandis' part.

Actually it would be a counter-claim, Algeria that is. I have made a post concerning Algeria in LoS, though not very informative it lays the roots.

Hey, I claimed Liberia earlier.
Just posted a thread for it.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548616
Will not just include my invasion, but also a major project.
Sorry its small, I've got a lecture to go to.

Remember Pineholt, I occupy the bigger half of Liberia, including the capital, Monrovia. I also occupy the land on the south-eastern edge of the country. Just remember your sandwhiched in between me. And since I've never recognised you that means you can't pass through my airspace or territorial water. If you want to discuss this, TG me. I have no problem with you taking that part of Liberia, but just remember where it is geographically speaking.

Also, Tyrandis' military was pretty advanced, mostly great aircraft and ships. Its been such a long time there'd probably be some sort of order in the place, and you'd be up against some of that technology.

Bombers flying from northern Brazil were making constant attacks on the remainder of the Tyrandi forces, which had turned into a looting, terrorising mob, which unfortunately was still in possession of several armoured vehicles, and missiles.

This was the opening bit of your RP- they would be in possession of a lot more than 'several armoured vehicles, and missiles'.

Attention Federation of Russia (Pushka)

The Nerotikan government sees no need to increase tensions between our nations. Before problems arrise, or your threats become reality we wish to sit down to have some sort of talks before war breaks loose between our peoples. This will be the CSN's final attempt at resolving the issues before they happen. Please concider this proposal for the future of our citizens and our nations are at stake, if you go to war with us we loose valuable resources for the Kazahk front and with tensions between TOA and the CSN being so high it is likely that a loose on that front could result in a counter-invasion as the german's had planned. Simply that if you wish to protect your interest it would be best for you to take another look at the situation. We need all forces to pretect the Kazakhstani interest ourselves, we do not have time to squabble over a land dispute which should not be there in the first place. Unless you wish to futhur disrupt russia with your warlike threats please concider this.

LAND OF SIN CONTINUES:

Link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13413815&postcount=48

With all the vodka you drink Pushka I believe your urine could pass for napalm.

2nded. Besides, even if you've gone light on it for now, you'll get right back to it as soon as you get some more of the "good stuff" from Russia. I got nothing against Russia, but forget the fricken Vodka already. Move on to better things. [Sarcasm/] Like Gambling [Sarcasm]

2nded. Besides, even if you've gone light on it for now, you'll get right back to it as soon as you get some more of the "good stuff" from Russia. I got nothing against Russia, but forget the fricken Vodka already. Move on to better things. [Sarcasm/] Like Gambling [Sarcasm]

We actually had a big problem with gambling left over from the 90s, we are largely outlawing it now a days, in a month or so in fact all the casinos in St.Petersburg will be permanently closed FOR EVAR!!! I can do without vodka, there are ubersized bottles of beer we have (2.5-3 liters), plus there are also alcoholic energy drinks and of course moonshine. There are also other traditional drinks like Medovuha which is made from honey but I can't remember the last time I drank it, portvein is also good, its hard to come by but I know people who make it in my village. Actually if you ever find yourself nearby Gruzino railroad station (also called the 47th kilometer) and you walk into a village complex called "Gruzinka", go down the road until you see a big steep hill, walk up the hill and you will see a water well and nearby it a green building, thats a store. Behind the counter there will be a permanently shitfaced middle aged dude of Georgian origin, we call him Suliko but he doesn't like that, in any case tell you come from Vaniek and you want to score some portvein and he'll give you a bottle or two in exchange for whatever money you have in your pockets (50-100 rubles should do). Portvein tastes great and if you drink beer along with it it gets you drunk.

Sorry Lay, can't post today, too tired now, like I said you get one shot at me without the threat of me removing your lungs through your nostrils. You will have to be aiming all the way over from New York though so take your time with it. No school Friday so first thing then I wake up, I have to get up some time before work anyways to go to the bank.

Remember Pineholt, I occupy the bigger half of Liberia, including the capital, Monrovia. I also occupy the land on the south-eastern edge of the country. Just remember your sandwhiched in between me. And since I've never recognised you that means you can't pass through my airspace or territorial water. If you want to discuss this, TG me. I have no problem with you taking that part of Liberia, but just remember where it is geographically speaking.

Also, Tyrandis' military was pretty advanced, mostly great aircraft and ships. Its been such a long time there'd probably be some sort of order in the place, and you'd be up against some of that technology.



This was the opening bit of your RP- they would be in possession of a lot more than 'several armoured vehicles, and missiles'.
My country does not recognise yours either, but I would like to change that with your co-operation. I figured that as his land had been available for claim for so long it would be in anarchy, if you could help me out with what he had stationed there I would be much obliged, however whatever he has will be no match for me I assure you.

Also, I will be changing my nation's history, and quite possibly its name as well, tomorrow.

My country does not recognise yours either, but I would like to change that with your co-operation. I figured that as his land had been available for claim for so long it would be in anarchy, if you could help me out with what he had stationed there I would be much obliged, however whatever he has will be no match for me I assure you.

Also, I will be changing my nation's history, and quite possibly its name as well, tomorrow.

Hey Pine, a funny thing here, once I am done with everything else I am coming after you in S.America, just a friendly little heads up. Did you really think I would just let that go?

is the offsite forum and other bits down?

Hey Pine, a funny thing here, once I am done with everything else I am coming after you in S.America, just a friendly little heads up. Did you really think I would just let that go?

What? You agreed to that deal, so why go after me? You should have just said no to me having your territory. But as I only know OOCly, there's nothing I can do about it I suppose.

My country does not recognise yours either, but I would like to change that with your co-operation. I figured that as his land had been available for claim for so long it would be in anarchy, if you could help me out with what he had stationed there I would be much obliged, however whatever he has will be no match for me I assure you.

Also, I will be changing my nation's history, and quite possibly its name as well, tomorrow.

I'm afraid I won't be offering help or recognition at this point in time.
And don't consider Tyrandis' equipment to be anything less than capable. He was an excellent aircraft and ship designer with a well funded, trained and maintained military. You should have a tough time against some of his forces at least.

Lay whats wrong with your forums?

I'm afraid I won't be offering help or recognition at this point in time.
And don't consider Tyrandis' equipment to be anything less than capable. He was an excellent aircraft and ship designer with a well funded, trained and maintained military. You should have a tough time against some of his forces at least.

But his territory is in anarchy, which prevents any effective force other than a guerilla force. My ekroplanes will have no problem dealing with his planes, not to mention the fact that it will virtually impossible for a high tech air force or navy to operate in anarchy due to resource problems.

I'm currently reading von Clausewitz's 'On War', and have just finished Sun Tzi's 'On War'. Anyone else read these books? Its amazing to think such works, despite being so old, especially in the case of 'On War', can still be applied today.

Hirgizstan, I was wondering if you could post some kind of response in the thread as soon as I update it, when I change my nation's history. If you could just post some kind of IC response to my actions. I will not be maintaining any sizeable forces in the area when I take control, and will ensure everything that happens is acceptable to you, as the last thing my country wants to do is create an enemy.

I was just wondering, what is the background for most of your nations? I see we have a couple of Russian based nations (Pushka, Nerotika), an Arab/Middle Eastern one (Eurasia), at least one Scandinavian one (Cotland, maybe Hawdawg?), a Chinese one (Mari), a Germanic one (Tristan), an American one (Layarteb), a Roman one (don't think I need to mention the name here!), and a Welsh one (Cymrea). What other backgrounds do we have? I'll be very surprised if anyone guesses which group mine will be based one.

Hirgy I replied in Detente.

http://de.fishki.net/picsw/012008/28/pushka/02_pushka.jpg

only in Russia

is the offsite forum and other bits down?

Lay whats wrong with your forums?

They be down at the moment. Yo.

But his territory is in anarchy, which prevents any effective force other than a guerilla force. My ekroplanes will have no problem dealing with his planes, not to mention the fact that it will virtually impossible for a high tech air force or navy to operate in anarchy due to resource problems.

I'm currently reading von Clausewitz's 'On War', and have just finished Sun Tzi's 'On War'. Anyone else read these books? Its amazing to think such works, despite being so old, especially in the case of 'On War', can still be applied today.

Hirgizstan, I was wondering if you could post some kind of response in the thread as soon as I update it, when I change my nation's history. If you could just post some kind of IC response to my actions. I will not be maintaining any sizeable forces in the area when I take control, and will ensure everything that happens is acceptable to you, as the last thing my country wants to do is create an enemy.

I was just wondering, what is the background for most of your nations? I see we have a couple of Russian based nations (Pushka, Nerotika), an Arab/Middle Eastern one (Eurasia), at least one Scandinavian one (Cotland, maybe Hawdawg?), a Chinese one (Mari), a Germanic one (Tristan), an American one (Layarteb), a Roman one (don't think I need to mention the name here!), and a Welsh one (Cymrea). What other backgrounds do we have? I'll be very surprised if anyone guesses which group mine will be based one.

Hirgy I replied in Detente.

Read Sun Tzu, I read some of On War as well. Perhaps one day I'll photo my bookcase and show the gloriousness that is I.

Layarteb is a sort of a wierd concotition though. It is maybe 60ish % American.

Lay, you on AIM or MIRC?

I don't actually like Sun Tzu, I think its far too simple. People use it for business and other 'novel' ideas. Its not as useful as Clausewitz, which is extremely detailed. I think Sun Tzu is too much like Machiavelli, its not so much about war as about how to get and wield power, at least nowadays anyway. Sun Tzu certainly didn't envisage C4ISR applications or the digital battlefield, neither did Clausewitz but he was closer to what war is really like today than Sun Tzu. Sun Tzu is like a pamphlet that is informative, On War is the textbook.

And my nation's background is primarily African, but in the past they were driven out of Africa to parts of America before reclaiming what was theirs.

Pushka, replied in Detente.

Insurgents beware of the Hawdawgian Marines.

I have Machiavelli's The Prince, which is by no means war orientated, and is a great read, especially for my university course. Next on my list is Marx and Engels, 'The Communist Manifesto', which I bought before Christmas and haven't got round to reading yet.

I don't actually like Sun Tzu, I think its far too simple. People use it for business and other 'novel' ideas.
Yeah, the version I've got explains how people have applied his teachings to different areas. I agree a lot of it is simplistic, but it is the simple things we sometimes forget...there is one army in particular which could benefit from his teachings I believe...

Wherebe this Detente?

My website will be experiencing some downtime over the next few days. I apologize for this and while it means no maps, forums, or anything of that nature are accessible, don't worry they'll eventually be back.

For now I'll try to get the maps on imageshack.

Wherebe this Detente?

2-3 pages back.

I don't actually like Sun Tzu, I think its far too simple. People use it for business and other 'novel' ideas.
Why does everything have to be so complicated? The best things in life are often the simple things.

Why does everything have to be so complicated? The best things in life are often the simple things.

I am with Cot on this one. Sometimes the simplest way to solve a problem is often the best way to tackle it. If people are applying concepts taught in these books in others avenues, that shows the diversity in which the methidology can be applied and we should praise these scholars that worked on these texts for this. I look at many historical texts in this way. We could refer to the bible, our constitution, the bill of rights as examples that fit this mold. Being able to use an idea that was developed and put on paper hundreds or even a thousand years ago in modern times is absolutely amazing.



-Hawdawg

Yeah, I totally agree with you both. Problem is, a lot of people read Sun Tzu as rote. They absorb only what's written on the page and then promptly forget the detail. They might remember the maxim or the gist of the principles, but nothing more.
What I really dislike is people reading Sun Tzu and declaring themselves masters at strategy or some such thing. And too often, thats the only thing people take away from the text.

I prefer Clausewitz because you can't just take a cursory glance and think you know it all. Maxims are few and far between and the concepts of On War usually require the chapter to be re-read before its fully understood.

I find that Robert Greene's The 33 Strategies of War to be better than The Art of War because it will take a principle/strategy from Sun Tzu and then analyse it, explain it and provide in-depth examples in modern or ancient warfare.

Some books of the ancient Indian Arthashastra are also worth a look, but most of it is about statecraft, only a few books in it are about war- but they're good nonetheless.
(This is a fairly decent translation of the books:
http://www.mssu.edu/projectsouthasia/history/primarydocs/Arthashastra/index.htm)
Books 9, 10 and 12-15 are quite good.

Basically, I agree things should be kept simple, because as you guys said- its easy to remember that way. The problem I have is that some people like simplicity because it means they can have a cursory glance, remember something simple, but never completely comprehend or understand it.

And Lay- here's a link for Detente:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548200

Why does everything have to be so complicated? The best things in life are often the simple things.

I am with Cot on this one. Sometimes the simplest way to solve a problem is often the best way to tackle it. If people are applying concepts taught in these books in others avenues, that shows the diversity in which the methidology can be applied and we should praise these scholars that worked on these texts for this. I look at many historical texts in this way. We could refer to the bible, our constitution, the bill of rights as examples that fit this mold. Being able to use an idea that was developed and put on paper hundreds or even a thousand years ago in modern times is absolutely amazing.



-Hawdawg

Occum's Razor.

In honor of all that is Giants, I hereby offer the entire Empire to the first bidder.

http://www.woodhamwarriors.com/images/Giants.gif

Disclaimer: I am the first bidder.

In honor of all that is Giants, I hereby offer the entire Empire to the first bidder.

<snip>

Disclaimer: I am the first bidder.

Unbelievable...makes up for the Red Sox, doesn't it? :D

Unbelievable...makes up for the Red Sox, doesn't it? :D

Annihilator!!!

Annihilator!!!

:(

I was trying to make you feel better...there's got to be some New York pride in beating Boston at something...they took your precious World Series, you took their precious bid at football history. I see it balancing out quite nicely.

India is waiting for Cotland

OOC: Lol, ok I just read the Autumn offensive and I realize that I botched up that post...Hirg just let me edit and change that real quick. I believe I can referr to that as 'Patriot'ing it, as in utter failure.

:(

I was trying to make you feel better...there's got to be some New York pride in beating Boston at something...they took your precious World Series, you took their precious bid at football history. I see it balancing out quite nicely.

Of course I'm feeling better. Annihilator is in reference to the epic lulz loss by the Pats!

epic VW commercial!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK8EwlUROzk

Of course I'm feeling better. Annihilator is in reference to the epic lulz loss by the Pats!

Ah, I see. Misread what you typed there...you know, it's better New England lost. People are going to be talking about *this* Super Bowl longer than had the Patriots won.

Ah, I see. Misread what you typed there...you know, it's better New England lost. People are going to be talking about *this* Super Bowl longer than had the Patriots won.

the best part is this. at work we have a mass. person who wouldn't let up when the red sox won the series. but now we can't say anything about the giants because, ya know, that isn't fair...ha! i want to go over there and just bring a giants marching band!

I find the best thing about the patriots loss is that I now have a new name for utter failure, and im glad I can call people 'patriots' in a negative tone now...

16 - 1, and its the one that counted...Patriots=Fail

In honor of all that is Giants, I hereby offer the entire Empire to the first bidder.

Disclaimer: I am the first bidder.

You cant bid for something you already own :)
Thus I am the first bidder :p

You cant bid for something you already own :)
Thus I am the first bidder :p

Sure I can and I can get a tax write off on it too.

Of course I'm feeling better. Annihilator is in reference to the epic lulz loss by the Pats!

epic VW commercial!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK8EwlUROzk

That's not a Volkswagen (VW(™)) commercial... I'm suing u! :)

the best part is this. at work we have a mass. person who wouldn't let up when the red sox won the series. but now we can't say anything about the giants because, ya know, that isn't fair...ha! i want to go over there and just bring a giants marching band!

I say do it...maybe even drape a Giants banner or jersey over that person's chair. That'll teach your co-worker for messing with you. :D

I find the best thing about the patriots loss is that I now have a new name for utter failure, and im glad I can call people 'patriots' in a negative tone now...

16 - 1, and its the one that counted...Patriots=Fail

Well, technically it's 18-1 (not 16-1- the Patriots did have to win two games to get to the Super Bowl), but good point. A few interesting tidbits about the strange New England season:

-They surpassed the 1972 Dolphins record for consecutive wins to start a season even though first the game after setting that record was their Super Bowl loss
-They are also the only team in North American sports history (and, actually, in major sports history, counting the "big" European soccer leagues) to win 18 straight games to start a season. The loss that snapped the streak was the Super Bowl.
-They are one of three 18-1 teams in NFL history (1984 San Francisco and 1985 Chicago were the others), but are the only one *not* to win the Super Bowl. Coincidentally, the 1985 Patriots served as the Bears' Super Bowl victims.
-The Giants are now 3-0 in Super Bowls when they face their opponent in the regular season. In 1986, the Giants defeated the Denver Broncos 19-16 in Week 12 and 39-20 at Super Bowl XXI. In 1990, the Giants lost to the Buffalo Bills in Week 15 and defeated the Bills 20-19 in Super Bowl XXV after the infamous "Wide Right" play (coincidentally, the Giants also played New England in 1990, winning 13-10 to set New England's 1990 record at 1-15). Finally, in 2007, the Giants lost 38-35 to the Patriots in Week 17 and defeated them 17-14 in Super Bowl XLII. So, since New England won't play the Giants in 2008, the Patriots stand a better chance of going 19-0, although I doubt it since that defence is just too old.

-The Giants are now 3-0 in Super Bowls when they face their opponent in the regular season. In 1986, the Giants defeated the Denver Broncos 19-16 in Week 12 and 39-20 at Super Bowl XXI. In 1990, the Giants lost to the Buffalo Bills in Week 15 and defeated the Bills 20-19 in Super Bowl XXV after the infamous "Wide Right" play (coincidentally, the Giants also played New England in 1990, winning 13-10 to set New England's 1990 record at 1-15). Finally, in 2007, the Giants lost 38-35 to the Patriots in Week 17 and defeated them 17-14 in Super Bowl XLII. So, since New England won't play the Giants in 2008, the Patriots stand a better chance of going 19-0, although I doubt it since that defence is just too old.

see, I didn't even notice that they played the Giants in the reg. season...I didn't really watch them, im more of a bronco's/titans fan (Though more Bronco's, I gotz family in denver and i've liked them sence I was a wee tike) but anyway, I can't seem to shake the feeling that field goals are the only thing that keeps football really interesting...its that three point difference in both the giant v. patriot games that I laugh at, however, 38-35 giants loose by three then come into the superbowl 17-14 win by three...

also if you've ever played the game "Blitz" for N64 you would understand why field goals are fun, and very annoying...to the point of wanting to bust out a baseball bat and attack the old consol for using what I call 'Blitz Physics'

I find the best thing about the patriots loss is that I now have a new name for utter failure, and im glad I can call people 'patriots' in a negative tone now...

16 - 1, and its the one that counted...Patriots=Fail

Nero lets get those peacetalks going, I will trust you enough to send my president to Kirov unless you want to come to Voronej.

football sucks so who gives a shit.

see, I didn't even notice that they played the Giants in the reg. season...I didn't really watch them, im more of a bronco's/titans fan (Though more Bronco's, I gotz family in denver and i've liked them sence I was a wee tike) but anyway, I can't seem to shake the feeling that field goals are the only thing that keeps football really interesting...its that three point difference in both the giant v. patriot games that I laugh at, however, 38-35 giants loose by three then come into the superbowl 17-14 win by three...

also if you've ever played the game "Blitz" for N64 you would understand why field goals are fun, and very annoying...to the point of wanting to bust out a baseball bat and attack the old consol for using what I call 'Blitz Physics'

You didn't know they played in the regular season? You don't remember all the hullabaloo over the fact the Patriots' last regular season game (against New York) was going to be on the NFL Network and politicians had to step in to get the game shown nationally? I understand you're not a fan of either team but I do find it a little surprising you didn't know the Super Bowl was a regular season rematch (to be honest), since the regular season game was well covered.

Good News!

Ng Is Okay.

Great!
Where the hell is he?

Well, I should have a post up in the big war thread within two weeks, sorry i cant be more specific, but I forgot about the fact Im going on a family skiing trip (last ever with ma parents :( ), but i usually have internet access there, so il peice something together over the week.

ALL GLORY TO TEH CONFEDERACY
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/T113-Centaur.png

Nero lets get those peacetalks going, I will trust you enough to send my president to Kirov unless you want to come to Voronej.

Peace talks? I thought we had a war going, nothing has been posted in the Kazakhstan thread to suggest otherwise, for that manner not much has been posted in the thread for a few days, is this sidebar that has developed apart from the thread?


-Hawdawg

Peace talks? I thought we had a war going, nothing has been posted in the Kazakhstan thread to suggest otherwise, for that manner not much has been posted in the thread for a few days, is this sidebar that has developed apart from the thread?


-Hawdawg

He said this a few pages back.

Attention Federation of Russia (Pushka)

The Nerotikan government sees no need to increase tensions between our nations. Before problems arrise, or your threats become reality we wish to sit down to have some sort of talks before war breaks loose between our peoples. This will be the CSN's final attempt at resolving the issues before they happen. Please concider this proposal for the future of our citizens and our nations are at stake, if you go to war with us we loose valuable resources for the Kazahk front and with tensions between TOA and the CSN being so high it is likely that a loose on that front could result in a counter-invasion as the german's had planned. Simply that if you wish to protect your interest it would be best for you to take another look at the situation. We need all forces to pretect the Kazakhstani interest ourselves, we do not have time to squabble over a land dispute which should not be there in the first place. Unless you wish to futhur disrupt russia with your warlike threats please concider this.

I will attempt to end this thing for all of us, I have already talked to OK and decided what I am going to tell Nero. In any case this is just between me and Nero at this point. I don't see TOA claim to Kazahstan as fair and in fact it is a catalyst for me leaving EII in the near future but I'd like to leave on somewhat of a peaceful note as well as wrap a few things up if I can.

Thanks for the update Pushka I honestly totally missed that posting.


-Hawdawg

I was going to talk to all of you TOA guys participating in Kazakhstan about this but that got kicked in the balls then Lay's forum went down, he was going to make a private discussion thread. But I talked to OK so hopefully that should be enough, hopefully.

LAND OF SIN CONTINUES!

LINK:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13430383&postcount=50

Finally, we will finish this episode?

LAND OF SIN CONTINUES!

LINK:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13430383&postcount=50

Hirgy you wanna RP the actual embassy exchange and a provisional trade agreement or something? We can take care of this in two posts.

Yeah, I know. Sorry Push, been a bit busy the last couple of days.

I just replied there now:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13432984&postcount=8

If people want to have a look at my factbook I'm currently updating my country.
Its official name in the official language (Pynholtek) is now
Pampas Repoblek of Pynholt.

SPREADSHEET & MAPS
AVAILABLE


Just click the links and they'll work
Forums down indefinitely

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Squornshelous: Squornshelous is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his remaining land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
New Map: I've found a cool map online with Canada and the US combined so I did that and eliminated the other two maps.





Azimeth [Post 21706]: Nunavut has been added to your claims.
Hirgizstan [Post 21712]: Claims added.
Cotland [Post 21713]: Claims added.
Hawdawg [Post 21714]: Claims added.
USB [Post 21715]: Claim added.
Ottoman Khaif [Post 21722]: Claims added.
OK [Post 21735]: Thrad added.
Push/Nero [Post 21746]: Contestation recorded.
Nero/OK [Post 21749]: Contestation recorded.
RomeW [Post 21804]: Morocco was Hawdawgian. Louisiana added.
Pineholt [Post 21833]: Claim added.
Hirg [Post 21845]: Thread added.
Pine [Post 21891]: Thread added.
Pine [Post 21949]: Name changed.





Azimeth: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Contesting: Altai Krai, Altai Republic, Kazakhstan, Khakassia Republic, Novosibirsk Oblast




Last Update: Page 1,447
Current Update: Page 1,464

Well, some developments concerning RTL. I have finished chapter 20 and set the stage for a new wave of fear for the Layartebian people. There are four more chapters left in the interlude, after which the Empire of Layarteb will be in an open and blatantly obvious civil war. The start of the recapitulation won't be for another 6+ months so don't feel like it is really around the corner. A lot still has to happen. For Brink, I turned Mogadishu and Somalia into a giant disaster [you're welcome] to help with the Land of Sin. It is fitting that Delaney would usher in such chaos to Mr. Brink's lands. The next chapter, appropriately titled after the song below, takes you back to the past, to the 1970s, before the Empire. It follows one character in particular and explains everything that you wanted to know about him. Stayed tuned...

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face
Stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race
This world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait
All will be revealed

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace
Whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate
The story was quite clear

Oh, I been flying... mama, there ain't no denyin'
I've been flying, ain't no denyin', no denyin'

All I see turns to brown, as the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand, as I scan this wasted land
Trying to find, trying to find where I've been.

Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace
Like thoughts inside a dream
Heed the path that led me to that place
Yellow desert stream
My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon
I will return again
Sure as the dust that floats high in June
When movin' through Kashmir

Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails
Across the sea of years
With no provision but an open face
Along the straits of fear

When I'm on, when I'm on my way, yeah
When I see, when I see the way, you stay-yeah

Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, when I'm down...
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, well I'm down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oooh, my baby, let me take you there

Let me take you there. Let me take you there

I was just designing my nation's flag and I realised there isn't anywhere we post our national flags, shields, aircraft markings etc...is there?
Anyway, for those of you who want to design their own flag, I came across this great website (http://flagspot.net/flags/cbk.html), which has most of the flags in the world (every country, every Canadian/US state, and various semi-autonomous states) all in black and white line form, so you can colour them how you wish.

I was just designing my nation's flag and I realised there isn't anywhere we post our national flags, shields, aircraft markings etc...is there?
Anyway, for those of you who want to design their own flag, I came across this great website (http://flagspot.net/flags/cbk.html), which has most of the flags in the world (every country, every Canadian/US state, and various semi-autonomous states) all in black and white line form, so you can colour them how you wish.

Actually there was a thread on the offsite forums for aircraft markings/roundels, and your flag could be in your avatar.

Nerotika we have been waiting patiently for you to post something in Kazakhstan since last Friday. So far you have been running about 7 days between significant posts in the thread. We all are busy people, but you are stretching this thing out and its unfair to the participants. Therefore I am asking both Mari and Lay to consider intervention if you can't start posting shortly. It also bothers me you could post short blurbs in this thread about various things but nothing in the contested territory of Kazakhstan.



-Hawdawg

Nerotika we have been waiting patiently for you to post something in Kazakhstan since last Friday. So far you have been running about 7 days between significant posts in the thread. We all are busy people, but you are stretching this thing out and its unfair to the participants. Therefore I am asking both Mari and Lay to consider intervention if you can't start posting shortly. It also bothers me you could post short blurbs in this thread about various things but nothing in the contested territory of Kazakhstan.



-Hawdawg


Well sadly, it isn't super duper bad. I checked his recent posts and since his last post in Autumn he has made three posts in E2. Granted that sort of leads to the conclusion you've had, at the moment, as of yet, it is not significantly warrantable yet. The decree that covers this was designed more for the people who spend a week, two weeks posting daily in threads all around NS and leaving E2 threads they're engaged in to fester.

waiting for Cotland's response in India.

What?

EDIT: What the...! Somehow, Jolt forgot to tell me that you had posted. Sorry SL. I'll get on it first thing tomorrow when I'm not dead tired.

Would it be alright if I claimed...

(The Old Yugoslavia)
Serbia
Montenegro
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Macedonia
Albania
Croatia
Slovenia
(and)
Hungary
Romania

>.>? Thanks, and if it's too much to ask for then I can resize.

Just a little note, Albania was never part of the old Yugoslavia.

I wouldn't be too happy with a new person claiming all of that set-aside land. Some of the claims there should be kept for other new players. But, in any case, welcome to E2 Infinacy.

Would it be alright if I claimed...

(The Old Yugoslavia)
Serbia
Montenegro
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Macedonia
Albania
Croatia
Slovenia
(and)
Hungary
Romania

>.>? Thanks, and if it's too much to ask for then I can resize.

Welcome to Earth II. You may claim those all if you so desire. Kosovo is listed as a separate claim will you be including that or leaving it be?

Just a little note, Albania was never part of the old Yugoslavia.

This is true but we had it reserved anyway :).

I wouldn't be too happy with a new person claiming all of that set-aside land. Some of the claims there should be kept for other new players. But, in any case, welcome to E2 Infinacy.

I don't disagree but, in this instance, we have plenty of other land reserved for newbies so there is still a lot remaining, including the Baltics.

I may have the forums back up and working remotely by the end of this weekend.

Yea, I noticed after I posted last night.. was just a wee bit too tired to want to edit it :P.

Anyways, yes I'd like to include Kosovo in that claim. Thanks :D, also is it under any special occupation like irl?

Yea, I noticed after I posted last night.. was just a wee bit too tired to want to edit it :P.

Anyways, yes I'd like to include Kosovo in that claim. Thanks :D, also is it under any special occupation like irl?

Well all of that area was previously under German control. North Germania, the guy who controlled them kept them pretty much down with an iron fist so I don't expect them to be too disappointed they were let loose from Berlin. He kind of suppressed the Balkans hard because of the whole "powder keg" problem they create.

When you can please visit Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the info.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549565
Earth II Interest / Recruitment Thread [OOC]

You've all seen it, the Earth II thread, almost 22,000 posts long, over 285,000 views and that isn't by chance either. Going strong now since November 2004, Earth II remains a staple point in International Incidents. Always being open, Earth II has recently opened up a significant portion of land that is specifically reserved just for newbies. We would like to extend to you [the reader] a direct invitation to Earth II and here's how you can join. It's really simple. All you have to do is go to our thread 'Earth II' - Revitalization [Longest Running Earth] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373378) and sign up with some claims from below and you'll be set. There is no minimum age, population, experience, or anything else for that matter. We welcome all NSers and many have found Earth II to be a big home for them. Here's some quick information on us:


Modern Tech
Regularly updated with vivid maps and always 12+ RPs going on at once
Plenty of opportunity for expansion
Interactive dynamics to RP'ing such as trade, internal Diaspora, economics, et cetera
Offsite forums for expanded content [currently offline expected to be available again by 2/16]
Stability [we've lasted this long]
Dedicated staff running it which is myself and Marimaia
Experience builder [learn and develop your RPing styles]
A no newb gang-rape mentality [many Earths you join instantly see the bigger powers striking you down to get your land]
Tons more


So here is what is currently [2.13.08] available.

Adygea Republic
Albania
Andorra
Australia (Kangaroo Island)
Austria
Belarus
Bryansk Oblast
Canada (Northwest Territories (part))
Czech Republic
Estonia
India (Arunachal Pradesh)
India (Assam)
India (Dadra and Nagar Haveli)
India (Daman and Diu)
India (Manipur)
India (Mizoram)
India (Nagaland)
India (Sikkim)
India (Tripura)
Juan de Nova Island
Kaliningrad Oblast
Krasnodar Krai
Latvia
Lithuania
Malta
Poland
Pskov Oblast
Rockall
Slovakia
Smolensk Oblast

New land is always opening up and our members are more than often willing to negotiate land trades, which often could see you with a much better position. So join up and we hope to see you soon.

PS: Just because you belong to Earth II doesn't mean you have to exclusively RP in Earth II. We encourage you to encourage outside of us Earth II as well. However, if you want to, that's up to you.

This has been posted on NS so encourage newbies to join. And yes, take special note to what's highlighted. No newbie gang-bangs!

Talked to "The peoplesfreedom" on mIRC and he expressed interest in Poland. Anyone else use mIRC? I'm thinking about making an Earth II channel, any comments?

Talked to "The peoplesfreedom" on mIRC and he expressed interest in Poland. Anyone else use mIRC? I'm thinking about making an Earth II channel, any comments?

Sounds like a good idea; of course, I'd actually have to download mIRC and then remember that I have it, but what the heck.

Welcome to EII Infinacy! Hope you have a long and prosperous stay.

Ok, just informing u guys im still alive...I lost alot of my freetime due to missing work one day (Sold my soul to my managers who have taken it upon themselves to give me alot of shifts and work me to the bone as revenge im guessing) anyway I would rather not have to wage a war here and devote time to rping it out and so I would prefer to arrange a surrender, give up my troops in Kazakhstan and those east russian territories Push and I were argueing about. Push can have all those and OK can have Kazakhstan...I just dont have the time to fight over these.

Instead i'll be concentrating more on other aspects of the C.S.N., namely promoting more economic/political expansion and trying to do something with my military other than waging pointless wars...maybe take up that switzerland approach I had wanted.

Along with this surrender I will be going through leadership change. Voloda Darinsky will no longer be the Chairman and instead will be replaced by Tanya Victoria [NRP] of the Nerotikan Reform Party which among the four major parties makes up the second strongest next to the NSP which Darinsky belonged to. I thought, since I have not seen a women running a nation on EII...ever...this would be a nice change, give the CSN a new image and with the NRP running the nation I'll promote capitalist idea's more then socialist ones although alot will remain I hope to better deplomatic relations with my neighbors and outside nations worldwide.

[Also, do I still control those territories Lame bums had? cause I don't know if you ever gave me control of them Lay]

Well that resolved itself, cool.

Also, if there is no Trensk...any chance I could just have Adygea and Krasnodar?

Well that resolved itself, cool.

Indeed...although im going to hold a grudge against you for awhile, at least until I see two certain territories fall under my control.

I can't give up on EII until I somehow find a way to pry these from Rome's control, I had these when I first came in and I at least want them before I get whipped from the face of this world.

Indeed...although im going to hold a grudge against you for awhile, at least until I see two certain territories fall under my control.

I can't give up on EII until I somehow find a way to pry these from Rome's control, I had these when I first came in and I at least want them before I get whipped from the face of this world.

I highly doubt that will happen, however once you are ready I would like to start up relations again and all that. Are we going to RP your surrender? There is a matter of status of my troops on your territory and all that.

I highly doubt that will happen, however once you are ready I would like to start up relations again and all that. Are we going to RP your surrender? There is a matter of status of my troops on your territory and all that.

We can RP this, but I must make clear that im surrending on foreign territories and will be still be protecting the homefront in case of a counter-attack...your troops in country will have to reach some sort of non-threatening state in order to stay otherwise I will need them to leave.

I'll get a surrender in on Autumn offensive soon, just don't have much time this week...cept for school which I have to catch up on.

IC:
Breaking News: Chairman Darinsky Step's down, CSN Military surrenders to TOA forces in Kazakhstan, Reich Territories to the east surrendered to Federation control

This morning the people of the CSN awake to changes across the nation, the nations first chairman has stepped down and relieved his position to his succussor Tanya Victoria of the Nerotikan Reform Party who managed a slim victory in the polls over the NSP candidate and a overwhelming win over many other candidates. Miss Victoria, the first women to run the country and the second Chairman of the congressional council, has promised as a part of her position to step away from military power and concentrate more on national issues. The economy and much of the nations resources which are government controlled will be seeing much change allowing the people to become more involved in a new capitalist style nation.

This sudden change in politics has ushered in a military change as well, the senceless violence and death seen in the Kazakhstani conflict has official been ended with the arrival of Miss Victoria, a call to surrender all forces and retreat back to the homefront was made as her first act. Any enemy combatants that enter near the Nerotikan border will be seen as aggressors, this includes the Federation which has had a sketchy relation with the CSN lately. The federation troops that have threatened the Kirovian state lately will be approached peacfully and hopfully resolution can come of this. This surrender extends all the way to the eastern territories that the federation has argued claim over.

I can't give up on EII until I somehow find a way to pry these from Rome's control, I had these when I first came in and I at least want them before I get whipped from the face of this world.

Which ones are those?

Which ones are those?

I sent you a TG, Yamalia and Khatia-Mansia would be those territories. When I first joined EII a long ass time ago I had half of Yamalia and a wee bit of Khatia as well then I lost computer access and Pushka came in and took the lands in my absence.

Im willing to nagotiate a trade, if you are willing as well. I had asked ealier and you had said something about them being imporant to you...so I wont push it if you don't want to now.

How about we use this instead to chat:
http://www.chatzy.com/921144516832

I am out of town until Monday at the earliest.


-Hawdawg

The Council State would like to extend a hand of deplomacy to the state of Infinacy. This state will officially be recognized by the CSN.

Welcome to EII, hope we can talk about an allianceship.

Nation Name: The Federal Commonwealth of Infinacy; The Infinite Republic
Demonym: Infinite; Infinitan
Military Size: ---
Independence: ---
Capital: Belgrade
Government Type: Federal Commonwealth
Economy Type: Free Market Capitalism
Head of State: President Dragoslav ---
Head of Government: Prime Minister --- ---
Languages: Serbian & English de facto; Romanian, Hungarian, Croatian, Slovenian, Greek, Bosnian, and Albanian recognized.
Religion: Orthodox Christianity [Official]; Small percentages of the Country remain Pagan and/or Muslim.
Consitution: Yes [Coming Soon]
Currency: Infinite Federal Dollar; IFD

Still trying to work out an exact Population.

The Council State would like to extend a hand of deplomacy to the state of Infinacy. This state will officially be recognized by the CSN.

Welcome to EII, hope we can talk about an allianceship.

The Commonwealth would be honored to work with the Council State, and is intrigued as to when and where such Diplomatic talks could be held.

Would it be possible...this is just hypothetical...but would I be able to trade off all my land in russia and everything for the open spaces in Europe?

if yes...I might just do that...if no, well no harm in asking.

The CSN would like to extend its hand of diplomacy to the Russian Federation, we must resolve our differences and look to the future. We are brothers as nations working toward freedoms for the people of our region and must act civilized in such matters as land and war. We have given up out claim on the eastern lands, we surrender them to your nation in hopes that we can gain something better from this. We want your alliance, please will your nation agree to join talks between the CSN and your people.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13452943#post13452943

There ya go Infinacy, thread up and running waiting for you.

I'm signing up in response to Layarterb's sign-up thread and I would claim Poland.

Welcome to Earth II.

Would it be possible...this is just hypothetical...but would I be able to trade off all my land in russia and everything for the open spaces in Europe?

if yes...I might just do that...if no, well no harm in asking.

Andorra 180.70 468.00
Austria 32,377.75 83,857.98
Belarus 80,154.80 207,599.97
Czech Republic 30,450.33 78,865.99
Kaliningrad Oblast 5,791.53 15,000.00
Malta 122.01 316.00
Slovakia 18,932.52 49,035.00

that is what you could claim in Europe.

LAND OF SIN CONTINUES:

LINK:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13454529&postcount=52

How about we use this instead to chat:
http://www.chatzy.com/921144516832
I'm on here now.

Is New Zealand still free? If so, sign me up.

Is New Zealand still free? If so, sign me up.

A listing can be found here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549565

Mari and I talked it over and we're going to say that there should be no ganging up on newbies for at least two months [offensively of course]. Obviously if you are going to invade someone except a counter-attack.

Would it be possible...this is just hypothetical...but would I be able to trade off all my land in russia and everything for the open spaces in Europe?

if yes...I might just do that...if no, well no harm in asking.

My opinion is that those territories- being in Europe- are rather popular and thus *should* be left open. I personally don't like the idea of someone going in and taking them all again, but that's just me.

I don't wish to direct this at you, Nero...it's a general opinion, since Europe *is* prime territory on these Earths (well, maybe up there with land in the U.S.).

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The Roman Empire would also like to extend an invitation for diplomatic and economic relations to The Infinite Republic. We look forward to many happy and prosperous years with our new neighbours.

OOC: You involved in math at all, Infinacy? That's a very mathematic name so I figured I'd ask.

A listing can be found here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549565

I looked on the maps and it looked free. I want Belarus then.

I looked on the maps and it looked free. I want Belarus then.

Welcome to E2.

Welcome to E2.

I can't wait to start. Factbook later. (3 hrs)

Population - 93,029,340
Calling Code - 381
TLD - .inf, .mil.inf, .gov.inf, .edu.inf
Time Zones - GMT+1, GMT+2

I think that should be the rest of the stats..

Working on a spreadsheet of sorts for my military atm.

Alright my forums are back online. You can reach them through my signature or just go to this URL below.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.net

I'm back in action. I havent been home for the last couple of days at all. I should have some posts in LoS within the next few days.

Also sorry to burst Nero's bubble but my second president was a women. Sarah Ovambo (i think i spelled the last name wrong). Lay or Hirg probably remembers.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13458267#post13458267