'Earth II' - Revitalization - Page 43
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 05:05
The Empire, split into 4 provinces and 2 republics, shall soon have a 5th province.
Bjornoya
22-02-2006, 05:09
Affect in the Caribbean will be marginal. The deduction mostly goes with imports of luxury goods that aren't necessary for the common citizen.
Bjorn I could get some of that land off of your hands if you want. TG me if you're interested.
Why do I have the feeling you'll be betraying me in Africa rather quickly? You have yet to make a stance on the Tyrandis situation and I strongly suspect you will be siding with Pushka and him should conflict break out.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 05:23
Heres the updated antartica (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/darth_avondale/antarctica.jpg) map. Though I'd save ya the trouble
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 05:26
Heres the updated antartica (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/darth_avondale/antarctica.jpg) map. Though I'd save ya the trouble
Don't worry about the maps.
OCC: D Prime I was scoping out your Military list on Lay's forum and was wondering if you could offer up some links to hardware? I always am interested in studying new versions of ships, tanks, etc. and would love to look at the stats if they are available.
-Hawdawg
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 05:43
Why do I have the feeling you'll be betraying me in Africa rather quickly? You have yet to make a stance on the Tyrandis situation and I strongly suspect you will be siding with Pushka and him should conflict break out.
I plead the 5th.
If you really, desperately want to know TG me and I'll give my honest OOC intentions. That's strictly OOC.
So how bout that land.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 07:24
Amphibious Assault Ready Group (AARG)
Arsenal Class MMGN: 1
Dnalkrad Class FFGN: 2
Emory Land Class AS: 1
Falcon City Class LHDN: 2
Henry Kaiser Class AO: 1
Indefatigable Flight II Class DDGN: 2
Jackal Class LSDN: 2
Layarteb Class BBGN: 1
Liberty II Class AKN: 4
Mexia Flight III Class BCGN: 1
Mexia Flight IV Class BCN: 1
New York Class SSGN*: 1
Ocean Class CVHAN: 1
Odin Flight II Class CVAEN: 1
San Antonio Class LPD: 2
Seawolf Flight III Class SSN*: 1
Supply Class AOE: 2
Twin Towers Flight IIA Class FFN: 2
Unforgiven Class CGN: 2
Verrazano Class DDKN: 2
Virginia Class SSN: 1
Wilson Class AKRN: 4
Ynoga Class CVLN: 1
Amphibious Assault Ready Group Air Wing (AAW)
AH-94B Stalker: 42
AV-8C Harrier III: 20
CH-53E Super Stallion: 60
F-29A Vulture: 8
F-35B Raven: 28
HH-60H Sea Hawk: 8
HV-24C Bulldog: 19
MC-11B CSA: 2
ME-11C CSA: 2
SH-60R Sea Hawk: 24
SH-97A Serpent: 2
SH-97B Serpent: 8
UH-95A Huey II: 40
Marine Cavalry Brigade (MCB)
Marines (Cavalry Crew [included in Marines Officers/Infantry]): 2,580
Marines (Cavalry Dismount Carriage): 7,676
M777A1 LW155: 8
M2005A1 Boar: 16
M2008A1 Dingo APV: 128
M2010A1 Bushmaster IMV: 128
M2011A1 Scout: 36
M2011A2 Scout TD: 36
M2012A1 Marauder APC: 36
M2012A3 Marauder TD: 36
M2012A4 Marauder C3: 16
M2012A5 Marauder MRTR: 16
M2012A6 Marauder EW: 16
M2012A7 Marauder AT: 16
M2014A1 Howitzer: 16
M2015A1 Cobra APC: 96
M2015A2 Cobra MRTR: 16
M2015A3 Cobra AT: 16
M2016A1 LAADS: 16
M2017A1 Frog: 60
M2018A1 Wolf LBT: 48
Five Ton Truck: 144
Marine Infantry Brigade (MIB)
Marines (Infantry): 6,788
Marines (Logistics): 15,000
Marines (Officers): 712
Brigade (BG): 7,500 (4 regiments)
Regiment (COL): 1,875 (3 battallions)
Battalion (LTC): 625 (2 companies)
Company (MAJ): 312 (4 platoons)
Platoon (CPT): 78 (6 squads)
Squad (LT): 13 (2 Fire Team, 1 Sniper Team)
Fire Team (SGT): 5 (2x Rifle, 2x Grenadier, 1x Machine Gunner)
Sniper Team: 2 (1x Scout, 1x Sniper)
CH-53E Super Stallion: 60 x (55 each) = 3,300
HV-24C Bulldog: 19 x (24 each) = 456
MC-11B CSA: 2 x (39 each) = 78
SH-60R Sea Hawk: 24 x (8 each) = 192
SH-97B Serpent: 8 x (20 each) = 160
UH-95A Huey II: 40 x (14 each) = 560
From the listing we can deploy 4,746 soldiers in one slew. Two Marine Regiments total 3,750 soldiers so two Marine Regiments or 50% of the forces on an AARG can be deployed in a single mission grouping. 100% inside of two groupings.
Finally, my dream is realized, I can deploy a sizeable amount of Marines in a single shot. This will go well with my future plans.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 07:25
I think it's time to upgrade the CH-53E to a new version. CH-53N Super Stallion II. I like the sound of that and it shall be, I shall make it. Tomorrow, bed time now.
DP you will learn how to read.
From his RP, I'd say he's E2s new DB...
From his RP, I'd say he's E2s new DB...
Odd thing is that they sound similar as acronyms (DB/DP)....
Squornshelous
22-02-2006, 09:27
From his RP, I'd say he's E2s new DB...
Yeah, you could say that.
Marimaia
22-02-2006, 11:02
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470138
The UER's new news thread! Allowing me to post the little-but-important details that wouldn't make an RP on their own.
First of all, it's Cymrea. Crymea is a misspelling of a whole other part of the world. :p Just razzin' ya.
And I only wanted 10 Seahawks. I'd have ordered many, many more if I had it in my budget! So...
The Cymrean Ministry of Defense wires $150 million to the Kingdom of Cotland for 10 SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters.
Cotland, did you confirm this yet? If so, my apologies, I missed it.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 15:47
Ok I may not be a very good rper but all people do is critisize me. All I need is a little help. Any sugjestions of what to do on that first post?
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 15:50
Heres (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468461) stats on my ships. Ignore railguns on Dreadnought.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 15:53
Ok I may not be a very good rper but all people do is critisize me. All I need is a little help. Any sugjestions of what to do on that first post?
Basically when you take over land you don't just show up, open the hatch, and are greeted by people who love you. If it is a non-hostile takeover that was planned and agreed by all sides it will be marginally easier I can give you that but there will still be some resistance. RP the setting up of schools, programs, initiatives, laws, etc.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 16:00
Basically when you take over land you don't just show up, open the hatch, and are greeted by people who love you. If it is a non-hostile takeover that was planned and agreed by all sides it will be marginally easier I can give you that but there will still be some resistance. RP the setting up of
schools, programs, initiatives, laws, etc.
Ok I see. I'll edit it right now.
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 17:16
DP you may want someone to RP as a resistance force. I remember the Yelm/BARGistania (I think that's how you spell it) RP was an excellent RP that was very thorough. Just an idea.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 17:38
DP you may want someone to RP as a resistance force. I remember the Yelm/BARGistania (I think that's how you spell it) RP was an excellent RP that was very thorough. Just an idea.
Ok I'll think I'll make a second post with that. Thanks.
The Huahinian Gov't would also like to table bids for Rome's Ellesmere Island, and the EOL's Baffin Island, Southampton Island, and the other surrounding smaller islands. (all these are in north Canada by the way!)
Looks like this got missed.
Hirgizstan
22-02-2006, 18:14
Lay, the deal between me and Varsola is for all of his African Land.
I confirm it. (Now you can update the map, told ya I'd save you some hassle).
Oh yeah, and Lay, I have an updated version of the CH-53, the CH-53G, I like to keep things simple. But I can sell you some if you want. Naturally it now has four Engines, better armor, two Hughes Chain Guns under the cockpit, one 7.62mm Chain Gun on rear ramp (removable), and one at each door. The airframe has been re-inforced, as has the rotor blades. The floors and underside of the aircraft are reinforced metal with a patented Tungsten and DU weave. Avionics have all been up-rated as well, suite is similar to the Pave Low IV and the CH-53G has a refuelling boom. TG me if your interested.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 18:21
Lay, the deal between me and Varsola is for all of his African Land.
I confirm it. (Now you can update the map, told ya I'd save you some hassle).
Oh yeah, and Lay, I have an updated version of the CH-53, the CH-53G, I like to keep things simple. But I can sell you some if you want. Naturally it now has four Engines, better armor, two Hughes Chain Guns under the cockpit, one 7.22mm Chain Gun on rear ramp (removable), and one at each door. The airframe has been re-inforced, as has the rotor blades. The floors and underside of the aircraft are reinforced metal with a patented Tungsten and DU weave. Avionics have all been up-rated as well, suite is similar to the Pave Low IV and the CH-53G has a refuelling boom. TG me if your interested.
Hirgizstan I am interestid in buying your part of antartica. Please consider this. You can name your price.
Imperium Council
Hirgizstan
22-02-2006, 19:31
I told you in a TG its not for sale.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 19:36
I posted this awhile back. I TG you? Musta forgot I did.
United States of Brink
22-02-2006, 21:36
Just some suggestions.
Its gonna take some time for you to get in place. Set up military etc.
Open trade routes and such as soon as you can.
Also you have to balance your budget. For instance your entire airforce cant be comprised of the 99x wolverine or what have you.
Hirgizstan
22-02-2006, 21:52
Yeah, here's some more suggestions:
Your military is a fairly good size for your nation, but you shouldn't have it all yet, considering your only starting out. I RP'd my revolution in Cape Verde, my first E2 RP, and I had only around 1000 WW2 era tanks and some ancient GMC Halftrack Artillery. I had no real Army, just a bunch of rebels, and most of their weapons and vehicles came from Cotland. It would not have been very realistic to invade with a huge Army out of thin air.
Once your established however, your military is all there. But since your an insurgency at the moment, and your starting out, you shouldn't have all that yet, wait till you have a few land claims on the list. (That might have already happend, I haven't looked).
A few other things. You have 3 Million men using OICW and Land Warrior gear, with your Defense Budget, this is highly unlikely. I would tone it down so only SOF forces have that weaponry. Wait until you get a bigger Defense Budget before introducing that high tech gear. Your military spending isn't all that large yet. Instead spec your forces out with SOPMOD kits and fairly high tech stuff (like a modern US Soldier), but hold off on the Infantry Technology stuff for a bit.
Happy RPing.
Cymrea: British Columbia (south)
Lay: It's actually north and central British Columbia that I was given. And do you still need a breakdown of sqaure mileage? I noticed your map of Canada still has BC in grey.
I've also finally managed to stumble into the forums and get set up there. :)
Cotland: Still waiting for confirmation on the $150M for 10 Seahawks, man.
[NS]Kreynoria
22-02-2006, 22:39
Check out the "Quotes of the Year" link in my sig. All real quotes over a period of several years. Anyone labeled with Tim is one that I made or is about me.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 22:45
Yeah, here's some more suggestions:
Your military is a fairly good size for your nation, but you shouldn't have it all yet, considering your only starting out. I RP'd my revolution in Cape Verde, my first E2 RP, and I had only around 1000 WW2 era tanks and some ancient GMC Halftrack Artillery. I had no real Army, just a bunch of rebels, and most of their weapons and vehicles came from Cotland. It would not have been very realistic to invade with a huge Army out of thin air.
Once your established however, your military is all there. But since your an insurgency at the moment, and your starting out, you shouldn't have all that yet, wait till you have a few land claims on the list. (That might have already happend, I haven't looked).
A few other things. You have 3 Million men using OICW and Land Warrior gear, with your Defense Budget, this is highly unlikely. I would tone it down so only SOF forces have that weaponry. Wait until you get a bigger Defense Budget before introducing that high tech gear. Your military spending isn't all that large yet. Instead spec your forces out with SOPMOD kits and fairly high tech stuff (like a modern US Soldier), but hold off on the Infantry Technology stuff for a bit.
Happy RPing.
My defence budget is 3 trillion. And i have like 3 land claims. Ok so how much should I spend on each branch? It wont let me edit my post on the off site forum.
United States of Brink
22-02-2006, 22:52
Doesnt matter how you spend it. Just have to give it time. Check USA's military wikis or something to compare how much you should spend on such and such
Cymrea, as long as you wire the cash, the helos are on their way to you, completely overhauled, repainted and filled with fuel. Enjoy.
The rest of ya, still got a lot of Seahawks and Greyhounds for sale.
Squornshelous
22-02-2006, 23:01
Lay: It's actually north and central British Columbia that I was given. And do you still need a breakdown of sqaure mileage? I noticed your map of Canada still has BC in grey.
There's another map labled british colombia that shows the land breakdown between you and Rome.
Kreynoria']Check out the "Quotes of the Year" link in my sig. All real quotes over a period of several years. Anyone labeled with Tim is one that I made or is about me.
Only found one mentioning you...I think.
Cymrea, as long as you wire the cash, the helos are on their way to you, completely overhauled, repainted and filled with fuel. Enjoy.
The rest of ya, still got a lot of Seahawks and Greyhounds for sale.
Confirmed. Cash was wired, Helos received. Pleasure doing business with ya. ;)
Actually, my deleted post was indeed relevant, since Lay has me listed as having BC south. What I actually have is BC north and central. To save the extra effort, I have tracked down all the square mileage information, from various BC regional government sites.
Stikine: 135,391
Northern Rockies: 85,808
Peace River: 46,000
Fraser-Fort George: 52,000
Bulkley-Nechako: 73,419
Kitimat-Stikine: 62,500
Skeena-Queen Charlotte is 19,933, but as QC (10,160) remains a Roman territory, my area for Skeena is 9773.
Grand total: 464,891 square miles or 743,826 square kilometres. And still falls within the Land/Population Matrix. :D
There's another map labled british colombia that shows the land breakdown between you and Rome.
I don't see it with the other maps on The Forsaken Outlaw...where can I find it?
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 23:36
here hows this for a military budget?
Military Budget
Total: $3,579,083,410,636.80
Navy
Upkeep: 570 Billion
Personel: 109 Billion
Building: 400 Billion
Army
Upkeep: 500 Billion
Personel: 200 billion
Building: 350,083,410,636.80
Airforce
Upkeep: 500 Billion
Personel: 100 Billion
Building: 200 billion
Coast Gaurd
Upkeep: 320 billion
Personel: 30 billion
Building: -
Missile Defence
Upkeep: 200 billion
Personel: 100 billion
Building: 200 billion
Squornshelous
22-02-2006, 23:37
I don't see it with the other maps on The Forsaken Outlaw...where can I find it?
There's a link to it on the first page of this thread with all the others.
Hey Pushka, you've got to be pretty happy now. Russia just eliminated the Canadians from contention in Olympic hockey. :(
Actually, my deleted post was indeed relevant, since Lay has me listed as having BC south. What I actually have is BC north and central. To save the extra effort, I have tracked down all the square mileage information, from various BC regional government sites.
Stikine: 135,391
Northern Rockies: 85,808
Peace River: 46,000
Fraser-Fort George: 52,000
Bulkley-Nechako: 73,419
Kitimat-Stikine: 62,500
Skeena-Queen Charlotte is 19,933, but as QC (10,160) remains a Roman territory, my area for Skeena is 9773.
Grand total: 464,891 square miles or 743,826 square kilometres. And still falls within the Land/Population Matrix. :D
Where did you find them? I've looked everywhere and I can't find that square mileage.
The Huahinian Gov't would also like to table bids for Rome's Ellesmere Island, and the EOL's Baffin Island, Southampton Island, and the other surrounding smaller islands. (all these are in north Canada by the way!)Looks like this got missed.
You missed this:
We will not be selling Ellesmere Island at the present time. We are, however, interested in an economic and diplomatic pact between our nations.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 23:47
It wont let me post of the forsaken outlaw.
Squornshelous
22-02-2006, 23:50
Hey Pushka, you've got to be pretty happy now. Russia just eliminated the Canadians from contention in Olympic hockey. :(
I just watched Czech Republic vs. Slovakia, what a fantastic game. Down to the last second.
The Canadian men are out? Nooooooooooooooo!!! Grapes must be choked, though probably not surprised given his statements on their performance. We can be proud of our juggernaut women's team, though!
Most of the BC districts were linked at the bottom of the Wiki page on BC in the regions section. Some had nothing, so I Yahoo'd the individual districts and scrounged for a site that had the information. Mostly the regional government sites.
DP: You have to register at Forsaken Outlaw, just like here. Then you get to post.
Squorn: I found it, thank you. :)
Lay: the BC territorial ownership is the reverse of how it's displayed. Somehow, I doubt Rome would allow me the Fraser Valley and all the populous bits. :cool:
Dweladelfia prime
23-02-2006, 00:26
The Canadian men are out? Nooooooooooooooo!!! Grapes must be choked, though probably not surprised given his statements on their performance. We can be proud of our juggernaut women's team, though!
Most of the BC districts were linked at the bottom of the Wiki page on BC in the regions section. Some had nothing, so I Yahoo'd the individual districts and scrounged for a site that had the information. Mostly the regional government sites.
DP: You have to register at Forsaken Outlaw, just like here. Then you get to post.
Squorn: I found it, thank you. :)
Lay: the BC territorial ownership is the reverse of how it's displayed. Somehow, I doubt Rome would allow me the Fraser Valley and all the populous bits. :cool:
Dude I did register I'm not stupid. It just wont let me edit my old post or post a new one.
[NS]Kreynoria
23-02-2006, 00:40
Only found one mentioning you...I think.
There are actually three, but the search feature will only find one. The other to are:
"This is the flexor muscle?" where 'flexor' sounds like 'fuxor'
"Knife. N-I-F-E!"
I just watched Czech Republic vs. Slovakia, what a fantastic game. Down to the last second.
Darn I missed that one. I watched Barcelona and Chelsea play instead (what a game that was- for anyone that thinks soccer is boring I have one word for you- "Ronaldinho". What a guy). I was able to see the last three minutes of Canada-Russia though, including Alexei Kovalev's goal, but it wasn't nearly as exciting as the Czech-Slovakia game- aside from maybe three Canada rushes, it was all Russia, the Canadians just not gelling or showing any heart really. Worse was watching Kelly Hrudey say that there was "nothing wrong with the team"- there was plenty wrong, he's just an apologist and won't see it. Canada had no leadership and had no idea what they were doing- I saw the Italy game, and though Canada won 7-2, it was obvious that Canada wasn't gelling. Canada just went in there thinking they could throw a team together and win and they were proven wrong. Russia deserved the game.
[NS]Kreynoria
23-02-2006, 00:45
I find this one pretty mean, made by a hot student teacher in Spanish class. It is directed at Charlie, a classmate of mine. Note Charlie + Miriam = :fluffle:
"Hey Chacho, wanna get close to Emilie? Because she's sitting next to you now. Where's Miriam now?"
Dude I did register I'm not stupid. It just wont let me edit my old post or post a new one.
Never once did I say you were stupid. Do not presume to think that I do.
Never once did you say you were already registered, so I made my reply based on the information - or lack thereof - you have provided. In the future, I will simply be more careful of the assistance I offer you.
For those of you who posted in my factbook thread, I have replied with some questions. Just in case you haven't visited in a while....
Dweladelfia prime
23-02-2006, 03:11
So when does my claim on that part of Antartica become final?
Darn I missed that one. I watched Barcelona and Chelsea play instead (what a game that was- for anyone that thinks soccer is boring I have one word for you- "Ronaldinho". What a guy). I was able to see the last three minutes of Canada-Russia though, including Alexei Kovalev's goal, but it wasn't nearly as exciting as the Czech-Slovakia game- aside from maybe three Canada rushes, it was all Russia, the Canadians just not gelling or showing any heart really. Worse was watching Kelly Hrudey say that there was "nothing wrong with the team"- there was plenty wrong, he's just an apologist and won't see it. Canada had no leadership and had no idea what they were doing- I saw the Italy game, and though Canada won 7-2, it was obvious that Canada wasn't gelling. Canada just went in there thinking they could throw a team together and win and they were proven wrong. Russia deserved the game.
Owned the Czechs, owned the Canadians, US is already out of the race. Finland is next. I remember US has this movie called "Miracle", i think we should start making one of those in Russia about our team this year.
Owned the Czechs, owned the Canadians, US is already out of the race. Finland is next. I remember US has this movie called "Miracle", i think we should start making one of those in Russia about our team this year.
What do you think of this team? You guys have a lot of legs- noticed that against Canada- and a lot of good young guys like Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin. That and Evgeni Nabokov is really showing himself to be a world-class goalie.
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 06:06
Explain to me why girls who I like ask me for help getting with a guy they like (i.e. not me)?
What the fuck?
Hey all, I thought I might invite you to check out my newest bit of snazz, the link labelled "Cymrean Armed Forces Rank Insignia". It's just the kind of extraneous detail I like to spend too much time on.
Don't worry Lay, someday a girl you never saw coming will ask another dude about you. It's just one of those cosmic weirdnesses....
Explain to me why girls who I like ask me for help getting with a guy they like (i.e. not me)?
What the f*ck?
Probably because they don't "want to ruin the friendship". Either that or you haven't told them that you like them. If you like a girl you have to go out and get it- don't hold back. Maybe this girl doesn't know that you're interested- people (not just girls) are not in the habit of being direct because it's not easy, so it's up to us to pick up the slack.
See if you still have a chance with this girl. Tell her you like her or, if that's too hard, write it in an E-Mail. Whatever you do, don't hold back- if there ever was a time to be direct, do it now. You may regret it later.
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 17:47
Probably because they don't "want to ruin the friendship". Either that or you haven't told them that you like them. If you like a girl you have to go out and get it- don't hold back. Maybe this girl doesn't know that you're interested- people (not just girls) are not in the habit of being direct because it's not easy, so it's up to us to pick up the slack.
See if you still have a chance with this girl. Tell her you like her or, if that's too hard, write it in an E-Mail. Whatever you do, don't hold back- if there ever was a time to be direct, do it now. You may regret it later.
No she knows.
Rome West
23-02-2006, 19:47
No she knows.
So what's stopping her then? You've got to find that out. Your goal here is to convince her that whatever is stopping her from being with you isn't true or at the very least, is not important. Fight for it. Tell her that you think it's a better idea for her to be with you than the other guy. You're good with your words- you can convince her to come to you; and even if you don't, at least you tried. Look at my sig- "The greatest failure is to never try at all." I made it up, and if I were you, I'd heed it.
Neuvo Rica
23-02-2006, 19:58
Sorry I'm not around much folks, work and stuff. It'll be gone soon...
Pantheaa
23-02-2006, 20:09
Im just piss that Slovakia is out of Ice Hockey. Being someone who grew up in Clevelands Slovakia community. They're unbeaten too and they lost to the Czechs of all peeps!!!
Rome West
23-02-2006, 20:19
Im just piss that Slovakia is out of Ice Hockey. Being someone who grew up in Clevelands Slovakia community. They're unbeaten too and they lost to the Czechs of all peeps!!!
Haven't seen the Slovaks play but Jaromir Jagr's is resurging as a premier player and there's no stopping him. Besides, you didn't lose that badly.
Don't worry, I'm crying too- Canada's out now too. :(
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 20:22
So what's stopping her then? You've got to find that out. Your goal here is to convince her that whatever is stopping her from being with you isn't true or at the very least, is not important. Fight for it. Tell her that you think it's a better idea for her to be with you than the other guy. You're good with your words- you can convince her to come to you; and even if you don't, at least you tried. Look at my sig- "The greatest failure is to never try at all." I made it up, and if I were you, I'd heed it.
Actually no the reason why we can't goes to something unmovable, so to speak...It's pretty much a mitigating factor that can't be avoided.
United States of Brink
23-02-2006, 20:47
Is there a seperate thread for the RP for hyperbia's land?
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 20:49
Is there a seperate thread for the RP for hyperbia's land?
DP started one it's a page or three back.
What do you think of this team? You guys have a lot of legs- noticed that against Canada- and a lot of good young guys like Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin. That and Evgeni Nabokov is really showing himself to be a world-class goalie.
I think our team is finally getting back on its feet after the damage that was done to it by SU collapsing. This was due to happen, we have a longterm tradition of excellence in Hockey.
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 23:34
In doing some territorial reorganization of my provinces I came across some blaring errors in my claiming (Grenada listed twice, Lesser Antilles area wrong, some state areas wrong, Canadian areas wrong). I've redone all my own and edited it and it turns out I was claiming about 100,000 more square miles than I had so I adjusted the claims. I dropped "Lesser Antilles" and just listed the islands separately. I may have missed a few (don't think I did) but if I did yell them out to me.
United States of Brink
23-02-2006, 23:42
So does that mean there is land to claim? If so id like to put my name in first.
Also there is an RP going on for Hyperbia's former Antarctic land.
Layarteb
23-02-2006, 23:44
So does that mean there is land to claim? If so id like to put my name in first.
Also there is an RP going on for Hyperbia's former Antarctic land.
It means that I still control a ton of islands in the Caribbean but if it wasn't listed as part of the Lesser Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Antilles) listing on Wikipedia I might have mistaken the claim and not included it.
Elephantum
23-02-2006, 23:45
or "dont try and claim some random speck in the middle of the carribean, I own it"
United States of Brink
23-02-2006, 23:56
Good show than.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 00:14
or "dont try and claim some random speck in the middle of the carribean, I own it"
Yes & no. For the most part the Carib was org divided into the Lesser Antilles having a claim on their own and each country in the area had their own islands claimed. Now that the Lesser Antilles aren't listed as a whole but rather the islands there may be an island or two thats part of that but not listed...
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 00:19
Actually, looking it over, Navassa Island was never included in any of the claims. Why don't I just go ahead and claim that then...
Actually no the reason why we can't goes to something unmovable, so to speak...It's pretty much a mitigating factor that can't be avoided.
Sounds like you're putting up a wall when you don't have to. Granted, I don't know the *whole* situation but it appears to me that you're giving up prematurely. See if you can get around that factor.
If nothing else, if you can't get this girl look at it as an opportunity rather than a loss. Yeah "the next one" may not be for a while, but at least you'll know what to do when she comes.
This is all about a mindset. Think you'll lose and you will. Only by thinking you'll win will you eventually win the war.
I think our team is finally getting back on its feet after the damage that was done to it by SU collapsing. This was due to happen, we have a longterm tradition of excellence in Hockey.
Sounds like you have a more patriotic team this year. I remember the fuss about Alexander Mogilny wanting to play for the US- that was crazy. You might have the best team here- they're fast and they gel together- but the Finns and the Swedes are also still quite strong (especially the Finns. There's no stopping them).
How is hockey over there? Are the leagues finally back on track or are they still glorified rec leagues (as I had read several years ago)?
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 00:51
Actually, looking it over, Navassa Island was never included in any of the claims. Why don't I just go ahead and claim that then...
I am so turning this 5.2 km² island into a base...
Sounds like you have a more patriotic team this year. I remember the fuss about Alexander Mogilny wanting to play for the US- that was crazy. You might have the best team here- they're fast and they gel together- but the Finns and the Swedes are also still quite strong (especially the Finns. There's no stopping them).
How is hockey over there? Are the leagues finally back on track or are they still glorified rec leagues (as I had read several years ago)?
Well, i don't know, i don't live in Russia right now, and the last time i been there...i mean i watched the Russian championship last summer, they seem good but i really have nothing to compare to i don't watch hockey here in US.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 01:35
Awake (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470422)
Few strange things about our victory over Canada.
1. 50 years ago USSR played hockey in the olypmpics for the first time, we beat the Canadians who were back then also the defending champions.
2. The score in that game 50 years ago was the same; 2:0 in our favor.
3. The Canadian gatekeeper who played 50 years ago is the father of the gatekeeper who was playing in our recent game against Canadians.
History does repeat itself, its strange.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 03:36
Pretty hot. It's kind of like how on 9.11.02 the score of the Yankee game was 5 - 4 (Yankees) in the 11th inning.
United States of Brink
24-02-2006, 03:39
hot or creepy. i lost all hope for basball which is so hard for me to say. On my defense i live near philly = phillies = worst god damn team in baseball.
plus johnny d betraying the oldest rivalry in sports history for money. Making the yankess that much more stacked.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 03:41
hot or creepy. i lost all hope for basball which is so hard for me to say. On my defense i live near philly = phillies = worst god damn team in baseball.
plus johnny d betraying the oldest rivalry in sports history for money. Making the yankess that much more stacked.
The Tigers are probably the worst team. Honestly Johnny Damon can go back, that useless pos. I mean Boston buying out their win in 2004 was bad enough we don't need one of them on our team to spread the ugliness.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 03:47
Ignore it people, I asked the mods to delete the post.
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 03:48
And the acount...... He posted somtin like this on my thread.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 03:49
And the acount......
I can only ask them to delete the post. What they do is their own business. I have no right asking for an account ban for one post nor shall I. They'll take the appropriate course of action and that will be that, there is no need to push it further.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 03:49
He posted somtin like this on my thread.
Inform the mods.
I'm gonna buy a DVD this weekend, at least dealing with war or something. I'm DEFINETLY buying War of the Worlds, but I'm thinking of also getting We Were Soldiers Once...And Young, a story of Lt. Col. Howard "Hal" G. Moore and how the 7th Cavalry Batallion is "ambushed" by the 33rd, 66th and 320th NVA Infantry Regiments in the Ia Drang Valley. I read the book and it was outstanding, so I'm thinking of grabbing it. However, I want your guys' opinions as well.
United States of Brink
24-02-2006, 04:24
OOC: I have bought Hyperbia's land From Prime in exchange for Pitcarin Island and a large sum of money which we are working out now.
Prime will confirm.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 04:27
I'm gonna buy a DVD this weekend, at least dealing with war or something. I'm DEFINETLY buying War of the Worlds, but I'm thinking of also getting We Were Soldiers Once...And Young, a story of Lt. Col. Howard "Hal" G. Moore and how the 7th Cavalry Batallion is "ambushed" by the 33rd, 66th and 320th NVA Infantry Regiments in the Ia Drang Valley. I read the book and it was outstanding, so I'm thinking of grabbing it. However, I want your guys' opinions as well.
I have We Were Soldiers...I recommend it HIGHLY. My Criminal Justice professor served in the 7th Cavalry in Vietnam. He wasn't at Ia Drang but he was at Hue and the others. He was there in Tet too.
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 04:29
*Confirmed*
Official News Release
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
We have taken the following additional steps to hasten our economic recovery:
1. Implemented a 25% reinvestment tax credit for all Hawdawg businesses in this calendar year.
2. Freeze interest rates for 3 months.
3. Implemented a 50% tax credit on the purchase of 100% electric, ethanol, or biodiesel powered cars/trucks.
4. Implemented a 40% business tax credit for companies that purchase fleets of 100% electric, ethanol, or biodiesel powered cars/trucks.
5. Reduced Capital gains taxes by 3%.
6. Implemented a 10% tax reduction to all citizens utilizing green energy sources for there heating/cooling.
7. Implemented a 50% cost sharing discount for citizens to install self-sufficient thermal/solar electric grids within there homes.
8. Implement a 10% tax deduction on water bills, if an anaerobic watering system is installed.
9. Temporarily increase Tariffs on all goods traveling the White Sea Canal 10% for 3 months.
These economic actions will stimulate reinvestment into the infastructure of Hawdawg and revitalize the industry for a better tomorrow.
Signed,
Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 05:07
In light of a recent purchase on our storefront, the Empire will be releasing $20B to the nation of Hawdawg to assist with their economic crisis.
I'm gonna buy a DVD this weekend, at least dealing with war or something. I'm DEFINETLY buying War of the Worlds, but I'm thinking of also getting We Were Soldiers Once...And Young, a story of Lt. Col. Howard "Hal" G. Moore and how the 7th Cavalry Batallion is "ambushed" by the 33rd, 66th and 320th NVA Infantry Regiments in the Ia Drang Valley. I read the book and it was outstanding, so I'm thinking of grabbing it. However, I want your guys' opinions as well.
Band of Brothers Box Set. Best damn war movie period. Saving Private Ryan a close second, followed by The Big Red One.
As far as books to read on Vietnam, a must is the true story of Carlos Hathcock aka White Feather. Truly Phenominal marksmen.
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 05:08
Band of Brothers Box Set. Best damn war movie period. Saving Private Ryan a close second, followed by The Big Red One.
As far as books to read on Vietnam, a must is the true story of Carlos Hathcock aka White Feather. Truly Phenominal marksmen.
-Hawdawg
I do agree, BOB is great. Other great ones:
Black Hawk Down (book better by 10000000x)
Tears of the Sun
We Were Soldiers
Heartbreak Ridge
In light of a recent purchase on our storefront, the Empire will be releasing $20B to the nation of Hawdawg to assist with their economic crisis.
The Hawdawg Government humbly accepts this offer.
I do agree, BOB is great. Other great ones:
Black Hawk Down (book better by 10000000x)
Tears of the Sun
We Were Soldiers
Heartbreak Ridge
Well I haven't seen BHD, the whole story pisses me off too much.
Those damn recruiters would always call my during Arkansas Bill's reign and hound me to enlist. I simply told them I wasn't working for a trailer house tramp from Arkansas, they tried to reason with me but I trumped them when I told them he is the ultimate boss and his ignorant behind was going to screw something up royally. BHD proved my synopsis of his administration right.
I saw Tears of the Sun but wasn't overly impressed.
Haven't seen We Were Soldiers.
I wouldn't put Gunny Highway in the same league with BOB or Saving Private Ryan.
Hamburger Hill would rank higher for me than Heartbreak Ridge.
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 05:24
BHD the book explains a lot of that situation. The biggest problem about everything was the fact that they thought armor and a gunship (AC-130) was too high profile. I don't like any situation where our boys are without their adequate support, hence why I bitch out Rummy for not giving the boys proper armor and supply.
A great book to read:
The Last True Story I'll Ever Tell
It's about this Florida Nationalguardsmen who was part of Iraq. The things you'll read will sicken you.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 05:58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470447
Heartbreak Ridge [closed]
I think our team is finally getting back on its feet after the damage that was done to it by SU collapsing. This was due to happen, we have a longterm tradition of excellence in Hockey.
I'm a bit behind, I know, but what can I say but that I'm a busy guy? :)
I think Russia did so much better this time around because Ovechkin and Malkin stop skating around like primadonnas and got their game on. I was looking forward to them lighting it up in the World Juniors, but they just kinda dogged it. Someone musta dragged their asses to a gulag and horsewhipped them or something, because they seemed much more motivated this year. It's great seeing a resurgence in Russian hockey. Hell, it's great to see the expansion of talent. I remember when it was six teams in these tourneys: Canada, USA, Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Finland, and Sweden. Now the friggin' Swiss are contenders! Germany's coming along nicely, and Italy, too...just plain sweetness.
When it comes to war movies, my preferences run more to the ancient warfare. I loved Gladiator, Troy was very good, Kingdom of Heaven was awesome. I had heard rumours about a forthcoming movie called Constantine and salivated at the thought of a movie about the founding of the Eastern Empire...then found out it was a Keanu movie. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't the conquest of Byzantium. Alexander was too focused on the homoeroticism, but I did enjoy the battles and Angelina Jolie is never not tasty.
I think I heard something about a possible Hannibal movie concerning the Carthaginian general; that could be good.
World war and Vietnam movies are great, don't get me wrong, but there's something about ancient warfare that strikes a chord. It's so far in the past, that it's okay to romanticize and bask in the glorified struggles of our distant forebears.
Pushka: I thought you were still in Russia...my bad. How come you don't watch? Too much of a challenge (seeing how it's barely televised)?
Interesting parallels- I had always thought Denis Brodeur was just a photographer, but he was a goaltender too (is "gatekeeper" the direct Russian translation of the Russian word for "goaltender"?). Also, you can add another parallel- that the Russians beat Canada on Italian soil (the 1956 Olympics were at Cortina d'Ampezzo, in Veneto (northern Italy)).
Hirgizstan
24-02-2006, 15:09
In Ireland atm, we're getting 'Over There' on FX. I had heard really bad things, especially when I was in the US and they were advertising it for the 1st time. But I've been watching it every week. It ain't Band of Brothers, doesn't even come close. But, its not anti-war, in fact its very sympathetic to the war at times, obviously a good thing. Its a kind of neutral program, not really pro or anti-war. It's not very realistic though, and thats why a lot of Vets are angry, and I sympathize with that, but for an hour of something resembling 'Tour of Duty', it ain't half bad.
Fav war movie is BHD, but like Lay I enjoyed the books more (Mark Bowden's and Michael J. Durant's). Favourite Vietnam books are the Six Silent Men series, absoloutely amazing. Johnny Clark's 'Guns Up!' comes a close second.
As for Iraq War Books, David Zucchino's 'Thunder Run' as amazing, a book that equals the awesomeness of Black Hawk Down.
We Were Soldiers is good, but the book is a million times better, especially the story of another LZ called 'Albany', the battle took place a few days later, even more bloody and visceral than 'X-Ray'. No wonder they didn't include it in the film.
A recent war movie was a South Korean one called 'Taegukgi' ('Brotherhood'), its like a Korean Saving Private Ryan set during the Korean War, stunning movie, highly acclaimed, well worth buying.
GUNNY HIGHWAY ROCKS!
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 16:13
A good movie is Clear and Preasent Danger.
Pushka: I thought you were still in Russia...my bad. How come you don't watch? Too much of a challenge (seeing how it's barely televised)?
Interesting parallels- I had always thought Denis Brodeur was just a photographer, but he was a goaltender too (is "gatekeeper" the direct Russian translation of the Russian word for "goaltender"?). Also, you can add another parallel- that the Russians beat Canada on Italian soil (the 1956 Olympics were at Cortina d'Ampezzo, in Veneto (northern Italy)).
Our word for gatekeeper is vratar, i don't see how its translated as goattender, it shares the root with word vrata, which is another way of saying vorota, which is gates in english, so there is no "goal" involved in that word.
Yeah so much things just conecidently came out this way, its weird.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 17:54
http://whocg.blogspot.com/
Updated :)
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 17:55
What do you guys think about an Earth II blog? Anyone can post in it that is part of E2?
http://whocg.blogspot.com/
Updated :)
Meh. I have a few problems with your views :p Well, maybe just the bit about the F-22. But I agree with the majority especially the thing about the Ports.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 18:21
Meh. I have a few problems with your views :p Well, maybe just the bit about the F-22. But I agree with the majority especially the thing about the Ports.
pro-Export ?
Bjornoya
24-02-2006, 18:22
What do you guys think about an Earth II blog? Anyone can post in it that is part of E2?
Any specific topics or can be about any and everything?
And is there a way to stop it from turning into another brawl?
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 19:39
Any specific topics or can be about any and everything?
And is there a way to stop it from turning into another brawl?
Well we could post like a little "What's Happening in our Nation" type thing and make it strictly IC...
Bjornoya
24-02-2006, 19:44
Well we could post like a little "What's Happening in our Nation" type thing and make it strictly IC...
You mean like make blog entries as our nations' citizens? I'd be up for it.
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 20:19
You mean like make blog entries as our nations' citizens? I'd be up for it.
Yeah...or newspaper articles...or something like that you know?
Layarteb
24-02-2006, 20:39
So who wants to set it up? RomeW, Bjorn, whomever...
United States of Brink
24-02-2006, 20:49
I have myself a nice part of Antarctic id love to trade. Open to offers (will trade for less land in africa).
Hirgizstan
24-02-2006, 20:52
How about Brunei, for some land in Africa?
(Also, that new guy is desperate for land in Antarctica, go talk to him if you want it sold quick).
United States of Brink
24-02-2006, 20:54
Ha, i bought it off him.
Also im not trading land in africa, im trading for land in africa.
Hirgizstan
24-02-2006, 20:58
Oh. Doubt you'd get any for land in Antarctica.
Bjornoya
24-02-2006, 21:03
Ha, i bought it off him.
Also im not trading land in africa, im trading for land in africa.
Trade Tyrandis that huge part of Antarctica for his bit of Liberia so he might be able to rationalize his 4 blln population easier (and get him off our continent)
Come to think of it Antarctica if settled would be a great staging ground for a war as it has easy access to all the continents and from a very unsuspecting route...
*learns to keep thoughts to himself*
I'm a bit behind, I know, but what can I say but that I'm a busy guy? :)
I think Russia did so much better this time around because Ovechkin and Malkin stop skating around like primadonnas and got their game on. I was looking forward to them lighting it up in the World Juniors, but they just kinda dogged it. Someone musta dragged their asses to a gulag and horsewhipped them or something, because they seemed much more motivated this year. It's great seeing a resurgence in Russian hockey. Hell, it's great to see the expansion of talent. I remember when it was six teams in these tourneys: Canada, USA, Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Finland, and Sweden. Now the friggin' Swiss are contenders! Germany's coming along nicely, and Italy, too...just plain sweetness.
Yeah, maybe the real hockey will come back, the one SU and Canada played back in the 60s and 70s.
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 21:39
I have myself a nice part of Antarctic id love to trade. Open to offers (will trade for less land in africa).
You mean to tell me you held me at gun point and told me to sell it to you AND NOW YOUR GOING TO TRADE IT! WHY THE HECK DID YOU TAKE IT FROM ME THEN!
Well we could post like a little "What's Happening in our Nation" type thing and make it strictly IC...
Sounds nice, i am in.
United States of Brink
24-02-2006, 21:56
For land somewhere else.
You mean to tell me you held me at gun point and told me to sell it to you AND NOW YOUR GOING TO TRADE IT! WHY THE HECK DID YOU TAKE IT FROM ME THEN!
It's called "politics", my friend...
You mean to tell me you held me at gun point and told me to sell it to you AND NOW YOUR GOING TO TRADE IT! WHY THE HECK DID YOU TAKE IT FROM ME THEN!
You should have come to me, i would have helped you out.
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 22:10
You should have come to me, i would have helped you out.
Thanks didnt know that. Theres always next time.
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 23:32
How all do you join an allience?
Dweladelfia prime
24-02-2006, 23:41
I now own Hirgizstan's part of antartica. Hirgizstan now owns Howland island and Pitcarin Islands.
Hirgizstan
24-02-2006, 23:46
I confirm the above.
Russia lost to Finland. 4:0. Now the best we can do is the Bronze and thats if we win the next game. Damn. I can't say i didn't see this coming.
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 00:19
ATTN ALL:
E2 has a blog site now, just send or TG me your e-mail if you have an account at blogger and I'll add you to the members list. Happy blogging!
http://e2blog.blogspot.com/
OOC: But hey since i am such a "nice" guy....
IC:
Statement from Russian Federation
Earlier today the central Duma has voted on the proposal of closing off access to our territorial waters off the coast of Djibouti, Africa to the merchant vessels belonging to companies based in member states of TOA and the nation of Bjornya. The close off should damage the economies of unfriendly nations since it will interfere with attempts of Realm of Cotland and other unfriendly nations using the Suez canal to get from the Red Sea to the Arabian Sea, thus rendering the Suez canal useless. Our waters will be sealed off to the following nations:
Empire of Layatreb
Forever Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc
Holy Empire of Hawdawg
Realm of Cotland
Nation of Hirgizstan
Nation of Bjornya
Passage for other nations is free and to aid in current economic changes, there is no tarriff. Nations that wish to pass inside our waters are to let us know atleast 24 hours in advance of their aproach so their identity can be confirmed and their status can be determined.
The access is free unless they show extreme non-neurality in the ongoing conflict between Russian Federation and above listed nationsExtreme non-neutrality would be considered an act of providing troops against Russian Federation or its allies in favor of the October Alliance and nation of Bjornoya.
Proposal approved by 64% majority vote during the meeting of Central State Duma on February 24th, 2006.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 00:37
Statement from the Empire
By not allowing a single corridor for passage between Djibouti and Yemen, the Russian Federation has put many civilian vessels in a dire situation. Because of this and because of the necessity for the Empire to maintain its trade, no Layartebian ship shall, under any circumstances, be stopped by Russian vessels or craft closing off the Bab el Mandeb. The Empire of Teh Ninjas controls the western part of Yemen and any attempts of the Russian Federation to close the entire strait would violate their sovereignty as well. As was negotiated in areas whereby territorial waters interlap, what often happens is that both nations claim up to the middile point and each moves back one half nautical mile to allow for international waters. The Empire will respect nothing less.
An escort force will be sent to the area, remain in international waters, and ensure that the Suez Canal and Red Sea allow for an international passage. Any vessel or craft of the Russian Federation intervening with a middle corridor will be sunk or destroyed upon confirmation of harassment.
The Russian Federation is taking steps toward war and has done everything short of declare war against the Empire. We will not stand idly by and allow the Russian Federation to shoot themselves in the foot and take the rest of the world down with them.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 00:39
ATTN ALL:
E2 has a blog site now, just send or TG me your e-mail if you have an account at blogger and I'll add you to the members list. Happy blogging!
http://e2blog.blogspot.com/
Yes, sign-up. I already posted :).
Hirgizstan
25-02-2006, 00:40
OOC:
Las time I checked Pushka, you can go the other way.
IC:
COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN
DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
WORLDWIDE COMMUNICATION
It has come to the attention now of the world that the Russian Federation has now provided a complete disruption to worldwide trade in closing off an area near the Suez Canal. Not only will this exacerbate problems already arising due to the recent stock market crash, it will hamper direct world trading to all nations.
The world cannot sit idly by while a marginalised and disruptive party attempts to affect trade on a world scale. This is a case not confined to one or two nations, this is a global issue.
The Commonwealth of Hirgizstan hereby proposes a worldwide trade embargo against the Russian Federation. All shipping to and from said nation shall, if nations agree, cease immediately. All trade routes used by the Russian Federation need to be shut down and all Russian citizens thrown out of countries and Russian business shut down immediately.
Once and for all the world needs to show that one embittered and lonely nation cannot bully the rest of us into acquesing to their terms. This amounts to nothing more than economic and diplomatic terrorism.
In the meantime the COH suggests every and all nations flood this throughway with Civilian ships and military escorts, sticking on the Yemen side of the waters, showing the Russian Federation they will not terrorize the world in this manner.
This must stop.
COH
How far from shore is your territorial waters claim pushka?
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 00:43
The Empire fully supports any initiative with worldwide support to embargo the Russian Federation.
Hirgizstan
25-02-2006, 00:46
How do you sign up to the blog, can someone invite me.
My blog is at:
http://tcdr.blogspot.com/
and I write under the name Cuchulain.
Invite me plz.
Bjornoya: My Blogspot username is DadoTheGreat, the nickname "DG".
You're also in the Roman Confederacy now.
Our word for gatekeeper is vratar, i don't see how its translated as goattender, it shares the root with word vrata, which is another way of saying vorota, which is gates in english, so there is no "goal" involved in that word.
Yeah so much things just conecidently came out this way, its weird.
...
Russia lost to Finland. 4:0. Now the best we can do is the Bronze and thats if we win the next game. Damn. I can't say i didn't see this coming.
Ah. I asked because you used "gatekeeper" when talking about the goaltender so I thought that was the direct translation of the word.
I know...4-0. I saw the score and was surprised- but the Finns are pretty good. They're facing off against Sweden on Sunday (CBC has an encore of it at 6PM, so I'll be watching then- not at 8AM when it's scheduled), which should be an interesting game to watch.
The Lightning Star
25-02-2006, 00:53
Hey, the U.S. is #2 now... Maybe we aren't sucking as bad as I thought we were.
I still think Germany has this in the bag, though.
Hey, the U.S. is #2 now... Maybe we aren't sucking as bad as I thought we were.
I still think Germany has this in the bag, though.
US is only one medal back...and Canada's sitting pretty at fourth with just four medals down. Still a few events left.
OOC:
Las time I checked Pushka, you can go the other way.
OOC: Yeah you can but that'd take you a longer time.
COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN
DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
WORLDWIDE COMMUNICATION
It has come to the attention now of the world that the Russian Federation has now provided a complete disruption to worldwide trade in closing off an area near the Suez Canal. Not only will this exacerbate problems already arising due to the recent stock market crash, it will hamper direct world trading to all nations.
The world cannot sit idly by while a marginalised and disruptive party attempts to affect trade on a world scale. This is a case not confined to one or two nations, this is a global issue.
The Commonwealth of Hirgizstan hereby proposes a worldwide trade embargo against the Russian Federation. All shipping to and from said nation shall, if nations agree, cease immediately. All trade routes used by the Russian Federation need to be shut down and all Russian citizens thrown out of countries and Russian business shut down immediately.
Once and for all the world needs to show that one embittered and lonely nation cannot bully the rest of us into acquesing to their terms. This amounts to nothing more than economic and diplomatic terrorism.
In the meantime the COH suggests every and all nations flood this throughway with Civilian ships and military escorts, sticking on the Yemen side of the waters, showing the Russian Federation they will not terrorize the world in this manner.
This must stop.
COH
Responce of the Russian Federation
It seems to be that there is no end to the hypocracy of the October Alliance. According to them then our trade routes are being cut off in the Baltic we should take it as a given, but then their trade routes get interfered with, suddenly the whole world should come to their aid.
We will send convoys to protect our merchant shipping through international waters.
We appeal to the global community to stand up to this tyrants and to not abide by their will, this move is only to impact them and no one else.
Hirgizstan
25-02-2006, 01:06
OOC: Pushka, the TOA represent some of the biggest E2 nations, we do a lot of trading with a lot of people. No matter what you think or say, this does affect everyone. Except you of course, because your perfect.
You still haven't answered my question pushka, how wide a berth are you claiming as your territorial waters?
-Hawdawg
How far from shore is your territorial waters claim pushka?
-Hawdawg
Usually its 30 nm, but in this case me an TN split down the middle. You can through TNs side if he agrees. This shouldn't be taken as anything shocking, i am just making something that everyone know, official, my merchant ships can't enter TOA waters under any circumstances, i repay with the same coin.
The Holy Republic of Hawdawg supports the position of the Hirgizstan Government on the total embargo of Pushkan goods and services.
OOC: Pushka, the TOA represent some of the biggest E2 nations, we do a lot of trading with a lot of people. No matter what you think or say, this does affect everyone. Except you of course, because your perfect.
OOC: Well, this is the only way for me to deal with you guys, so just doing what i can. Lets see how the others respond.
Bjornoya: My Blogspot username is DadoTheGreat, the nickname "DG".
You're also in the Roman Confederacy now.
Ah. I asked because you used "gatekeeper" when talking about the goaltender so I thought that was the direct translation of the word.
I know...4-0. I saw the score and was surprised- but the Finns are pretty good. They're facing off against Sweden on Sunday (CBC has an encore of it at 6PM, so I'll be watching then- not at 8AM when it's scheduled), which should be an interesting game to watch.
Now the good news.
ZENIT WON UEFA LEAGUE OF CHAMPIONS! YAY!!!!
Zenit is a soccer club based in St.Petersburg, which is what i consider my home city then it comes to futball.
Ottoman Khaif
25-02-2006, 01:14
The United Arab Republic of Egypt and Lebanon and unofficially Syria.
States that Russian Government is doing more to damage the globe economy by setting up this blockade and cutting off key world shipping routes do to a personal vendetta against a few nations...we ask the Russian Government to rethink this blockade.
Russian Communique to the World
We call on world's nations to view our decisions rationally. This is the only appropriet responce to the TOA policies centered against us. The unstable and untrustworthy regimes of TOA as well as the backstabbing nation of Bjornya think that their deeds are to go unpunished, we disagree, we hope you will too. We repeat that those nations that will remain neutral will be granted passage free of charge.
The United Arab Republic of Egypt and Lebanon and unofficially Syria.
States that Russian Government is doing more to damage the globe economy by setting up this blockade and cutting off key world shipping routes do to a personal vendetta against a few nations...we ask the Russian Government to rethink this blockade.
If TOA reconsiders its own politicies, we will reconsider ours. However this does not mean that we will sign any agreement that TOA will discard during one of their occasional mood swings. We will have to know that an agreement that we sign will be respected by their side. Otherwise our decision is final.
-Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
OOC: Anyways guys, you'll have to talk to TN to see if he'll grant you passage through his territorial waters, i think he cut TOA and Bjornya off as well, although i am not sure.
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 01:33
Shit, I'll get to the inviting guys sorry, was/am writing my first real entry
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 01:35
SWEETNESS!!! I got into the Roman Confederacy!!!!
*dances with himself*
....
I mean, I am eternally grateful for this honor and oppurtnity, Bjornoya will do its best to work with her new allies
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 01:39
Me=newb at Blogger.com
@ Hirgy and RomeW, I need your email addresses I think to add you to members list, not sure how to find it.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 01:40
Me=newb at Blogger.com
@ Hirgy and RomeW, I need your email addresses I think to add you to members list, not sure how to find it.
No you can only add by e-mail.
Rome: Is the Roman Confederacy a blog site? And might I be permitted to join? Also, do you want my military college proposal here or in a TG?
The men's curling team was in the gold-medal game last I heard. Has that been played yet or is there another medal on the way for Canada?
Bjorn: Check your TGs :)
Me=newb at Blogger.com
@ Hirgy and RomeW, I need your email addresses I think to add you to members list, not sure how to find it.
Am i auto-rejected from this?
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 02:12
Am i auto-rejected from this?
You can join Pushka if you follow the rules. Read the first entry.
I read it.
add me in as kuzmich16@hotmail.com
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 02:33
Imperial Annoucement
"The Empire sealed off the passage through the straits by increasing our territorial waters about a month ago due to actions conducted by the nation of Cotland which we deemed unacceptable. (I think he killed a bunch of people or something) The only nation which expressed concern over the expansion was Rome. A deal was worked out between us and his vessels were allowed passage with some minor restrictions. If a nation wishes passage through they must contact us and a deal may or may not be worked out. Thank you."
Emperor Jon Takenski
Rome: Is the Roman Confederacy a blog site? And might I be permitted to join? Also, do you want my military college proposal here or in a TG?
If you're roleplaying as a Roman Dominion then you can't join the alliance, at least not *officially*, since alliance activity falls under the jurisdiction of the central government in Rome as it is a part of "global foreign affairs" and all you can do is local.
I can see if there's a setting somewhere that will allow you to participate as a non-voting member so that you can at least get your voice heard there.
Imperial Annoucement
"The Empire sealed off the passage through the straits by increasing our territorial waters about a month ago due to actions conducted by the nation of Cotland which we deemed unacceptable. (I think he killed a bunch of people or something) The only nation which expressed concern over the expansion was Rome. A deal was worked out between us and his vessels were allowed passage with some minor restrictions. If a nation wishes passage through they must contact us and a deal may or may not be worked out. Thank you."
Emperor Jon Takenski
check TGs
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 03:03
Imperial Annoucement
"The Empire sealed off the passage through the straits by increasing our territorial waters about a month ago due to actions conducted by the nation of Cotland which we deemed unacceptable. (I think he killed a bunch of people or something) The only nation which expressed concern over the expansion was Rome. A deal was worked out between us and his vessels were allowed passage with some minor restrictions. If a nation wishes passage through they must contact us and a deal may or may not be worked out. Thank you."
Emperor Jon Takenski
The Empire would like to ensure that the same kind of deal that exists when territorial waters overlap in the Caribbean exist here so that there is a corridor for international passage.
Elephantum
25-02-2006, 03:10
http://whocg.blogspot.com/
Updated :)
I feel pretty much the same about the ports. If a foriegn company is going to run it, this is probably one of the best (run by a retired USN officer), but it really should be American-run.
At least the French aren't going to run it, they'd hide the first time a ship came in.
EDIT
I think we should export the F-22, just not yet, its barely entered USAF service. Wait until we have something better in prototype status (F-35 doesnt count since it is multi-national), then start sending it out.
Going to look at the E20 blog now. dph948@yahoo.com is my email.
Official Commerce Department Release
While the denial of passage through the Red Sea is regrettable, especially in this time of economic uncertainty, there are ways around this. For example, cargo from Athens headed for Rangoon might be forced to go around Africa. However, it could be transferred to Haifa, and from there sent to a Persian Gulf port, like Dubai, for shipment. While this lengthens the process, and consequently raises the prices, it does provide an alternative to the long road around Africa.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 03:11
There were expemtions to my increase in territorial waters, one was the Madeira Islands and Cuba.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 03:16
There were expemtions to my increase in territorial waters, one was the Madeira Islands and Cuba.
The Suez Canal allows civilian and merchant ships from the Empire red our Middle Eastern allies and our trade partners in India much quicker than by going around Africa or across the Pacific Ocean. To not have passage through the Red Sea would only hinder the trade of not just the Empire but also Carthage and Elephantum, among others, which would be detremental in this time of crisis.
Teh Ninja, check TGs please.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 03:28
We'll allow civilian and merchant vessels to go through as long as we have the right to board and search vessels at random that we believe may be containing weapons or war materials. (I don't do that often) This is to ensure that private citizens from your nation don't try to arm the rebels.
Military vessels won't be allow through unless there is a very good reason for their passage, inwhich we would need to be informed. We have to do this because you have no nearby territory that would require defending.
A fee of 100 million dollars is charged for upkeep of military vessels defending the straits. (Cheap change)
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 03:31
We'll allow civilian and merchant vessels to go through as long as we have the right to board and search vessels at random that we believe may be containing weapons or war materials. (I don't do that often) This is to ensure that private citizens from your nation don't try to arm the rebels.
Military vessels won't be allow through unless there is a very good reason for their passage, inwhich we would need to be informed. We have to do this because you have no nearby territory that would require defending.
A fee of 100 million dollars is charged for upkeep of military vessels defending the straits. (Cheap change)
The Empire will not allow any civilian or merchant vessels to be searched by foreign countries under false pretenses. We are being forced into a similar position concerning the Panama Canal, which has been kept open to Ninjan vessels without search or seizure. Should the threat of such sustain with concern to the Suez Canal we have no choice but to disallow any Ninjan vessel from going through the Panama Canal.
OOC: Teh Ninja i replied to your reply.
IC:
Message from Russian Federation
Since we are now officially neighboring nations we would like to increase our economic cooperation with nation of Teh Ninja. We propose a trade agreement under terms of which both our nations can prosper. Purhapse it can lead to a higher form of cooperation. We invite representatives from Teh Ninja to come to Voronej to discuss our proposal.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 03:45
The Empire will not allow any civilian or merchant vessels to be searched by foreign countries under false pretenses. We are being forced into a similar position concerning the Panama Canal, which has been kept open to Ninjan vessels without search or seizure. Should the threat of such sustain with concern to the Suez Canal we have no choice but to disallow any Ninjan vessel from going through the Panama Canal.
The search will be of only suspicious vessels. Unlike yourself our nation is currently at war with rebels. While we know that you're not in support of the rebels we do not know what some people in your nation may think of them. Some may support them or some may even have family members involved in the rebellion and try to support them by supplying arms to them. We ensure you that no personal belongs or material will be taken unless it is military weaponry. If soldiers are found stealing they will be dealt with by us. This is an option I simply cannot remove.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 03:51
The search will be of only suspicious vessels. Unlike yourself our nation is currently at war with rebels. While we know that you're not in support of the rebels we do not know what some people in your nation may think of them. Some may support them or some may even have family members involved in the rebellion and try to support them by supplying arms to them. We ensure you that no personal belongs or material will be taken unless it is military weaponry. If soldiers are found stealing they will be dealt with by us. This is an option I simply cannot remove.
The Empire is always fighting against internal dissenters. The Mayans, the Quebecois, and many others want to see the Empire crumble before them. We know of the situation you are in but we cannot allow our citizens to be mistreated and accused of crimes without propper just cause. The actions of the Ninjan government must be met with similar actions by the Empire. Therefore, from this moment, all Ninjan vessels moving through the Panama Canal will be searched for contraband and illegal arms shipments to those within who do not support the Empire, our rebels. In addition, the Empire will be removing the international corridors it has to Ninjan vessels. We are displeased that we have been forced into this situation after all the support we have given the Ninjan Empire against their rebels and in their endeavors. In addition, because we cannot be certain if this is a prelude to war or not we will be carefully watching the DMZ in Cuba and we must stress the lack of necessity for this. The Empire does not support the rebellion against the Ninjan Empire nor will it tolerate its citizens doing the same. The Empire fears that the Ninjan Empire has become the latest pawn for the Russian Federation and implores the Ninjan Empire to look at the past and how Russia has treated its previous allies, one of which it has almost declared war on.
Elephantum
25-02-2006, 03:54
*see my edited post y'all
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 03:57
The Empire does appreciate the sentiments of the Elephanti government but offloading and reloading such large cargos not only eats up more money and takes up unnecessary time but it also could mean more losses in terms of spoilage, human error, or criminal acts.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 03:59
Pushka, proposal is accepted and Minister Fredrick Gardy will be sent to attend the meeting.
OOC: Lay, just to clear some things up are you searching my ships, and then letting them go or are you searching them, then seizing them and their crew.
Could you also TG me when my part in the rebellion is due.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 04:00
Pushka, proposal is accepted and Minister Fredrick Gardy will be sent to attend the meeting.
OOC: Lay, just to clear some things up are you searching my ships, and then letting them go or are you searching them, then seizing them and their crew.
Could you also TG me when my part in the rebellion is due.
OOC: Will do. We are just searching them. All of them.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 04:14
The Empire is always fighting against internal dissenters. The Mayans, the Quebecois, and many others want to see the Empire crumble before them. We know of the situation you are in but we cannot allow our citizens to be mistreated and accused of crimes without propper just cause. The actions of the Ninjan government must be met with similar actions by the Empire. Therefore, from this moment, all Ninjan vessels moving through the Panama Canal will be searched for contraband and illegal arms shipments to those within who do not support the Empire, our rebels. In addition, the Empire will be removing the international corridors it has to Ninjan vessels. We are displeased that we have been forced into this situation after all the support we have given the Ninjan Empire against their rebels and in their endeavors. In addition, because we cannot be certain if this is a prelude to war or not we will be carefully watching the DMZ in Cuba and we must stress the lack of necessity for this. The Empire does not support the rebellion against the Ninjan Empire nor will it tolerate its citizens doing the same. The Empire fears that the Ninjan Empire has become the latest pawn for the Russian Federation and implores the Ninjan Empire to look at the past and how Russia has treated its previous allies, one of which it has almost declared war on.
OOC: Wait, and you're closing off any passage through the Caribbean?
IC:
The Empire finds the searching of vessels fine. We understand the hard times that a nation goes through during a rebellion and anyone found attempting to arm rebels against any nation shall be trialed. We only feel sorry for those that have to wait in line.
This is no preclude to war. We have had the straits closed off for quite sometime and no one complained then. The garrison at Cuba will maintain it's daily routine, except for the occasional raid.
As for indicating that we are a pawn for the Russian Federation I find this humorous. Our nation is violently nationalistic and we will always oppose foreign pressure to influence our nation. We have only signed the agreement due to the close proximity our nation's territories now are. Your application for permission to travel through the straits is currently under review, we will inform you once a decision has been made.
Dweladelfia prime
25-02-2006, 04:15
I now own Hirgizstan's part of antartica. Hirgizstan now owns Howland island and Pitcarin Islands.
Uh hello?
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 04:19
Until the Empire and its vessels can move through a designated corridor without hindrance we cannot allow any Ninjan vessel through the Canal without first searching them. We are too aware of the games that the Russian Federation plays and the lies it tells to nations. They believe the world is TOA vs. Russia when it is not. The actions of the Russian Federation usually warrant a strong reaction from the October Alliance because of the severeity of these actions. We warn the Ninjan Empire to not fall into the same trap that the Bjornoyans fell into, which almost brought utter destruction to their nation at the trechery of the Russian Federation. The Empire strongly wills that the Ninjan Empire, in any cases involving Russia, think of their own well being first.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 04:25
you're closing off any passage through the Caribbean?
??
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 04:27
??
OOC: Ahh forgot about that..
Waters where there was a clear international line will not be off limits to Ninjan vessels but they may be subject to searches as those passing through the Canal are.
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 04:31
Your passage through the straits have been accepted. Our random searches will continue as planned. Any ship carrying weapons will be scuttled, the weapons destroyed, it's crew taken into custody, and handed over to the respected government for trial.
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 04:33
TN I responded to your TG.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 04:35
Your passage through the straits have been accepted. Our random searches will continue as planned. Any ship carrying weapons will be scuttled, the weapons destroyed, it's crew taken into custody, and handed over to the respected government for trial.
In light of this the Empire will return to the status quo on the Caribbean Sea.
United States of Brink
25-02-2006, 05:51
Could ya add me to this "blog"
adambrinkman@hotmail.com
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 06:07
Could ya add me to this "blog"
adambrinkman@hotmail.com
Done, confirm through e-mail and if you don't have an account at blogger.com you'll be prompted to create one. Enjoy!
United States of Brink
25-02-2006, 06:18
Could i ask a favor? Could you resend an invatation. Blogger already doesnt like me.
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 06:20
Alright, it has you listed as a 'Team Member' already though.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 06:46
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064
This is a very good post by CSJ that I think everyone should read, especially numbers and the like.
Layarteb
25-02-2006, 08:06
The Empire invites the leaders of the Ninjan Empire and all nations around the Caribbean Sea to discuss its plan for trade in the Caribbean Sea. This plan includes free trade amongst Caribbean nations, usage of the Panama Canal at reduced fees, improved markets and trade products, and any other stipulations anyone might have.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064
This is a very good post by CSJ that I think everyone should read, especially numbers and the like.
That's a damn good thread, particularly CSJ's original post. I do believe this will be a large influence on my military and economic RP.
Rome: Attendance in the Confederacy as a non-voting dominion representative sounds good to me. Even with no "voice", it'll be nice to watch, as it were.
To all, I have made a major inclusion to my factbook, outlining the govermental structure of Cymrea. I invite your views and comments.
To the Imperium Romanum, I present: Project Aegis
Project Aegis (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470612)
Everyone's invited to take a peek, but Project Aegis is aimed specifically at Rome.
To the Imperium Romanum, I present: Project Aegis
Project Aegis (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470612)
Everyone's invited to take a peek, but Project Aegis is aimed specifically at Rome.
I'll take a look. I'm entering a busy period right now so my contributions may be limited at this stage.
Imperial Annoucement
"The Empire sealed off the passage through the straits by increasing our territorial waters about a month ago due to actions conducted by the nation of Cotland which we deemed unacceptable. (I think he killed a bunch of people or something) The only nation which expressed concern over the expansion was Rome. A deal was worked out between us and his vessels were allowed passage with some minor restrictions. If a nation wishes passage through they must contact us and a deal may or may not be worked out. Thank you."
Emperor Jon Takenski
Uh, wtf... I never killed a bunch of people. I think you've gotten some faulty information or something. What did I do a month ago then? Sink one of my own ships?
Always respect what CSJ has to say. He helped me build my MEF Fleet, helped with the research and logistical headaches associated with supplying such a force. Devised a couple of tactics for me that I will put to use later on. I still have many of his orginal vessels in my MEF Fleet.
-Hawdawg
Oh yeah i just found out from a TG that both my merchant and my military vessels are allowed to travel through Teh Ninja waters near Africa. I am talking about the waters between Red and Arabian seas. So i am just aknowledging it.
Russian Communique to all Worlds Nations
We want to promote better relations with our fellow nations. We will review any trade agreement or any other form of cooperation agreement proposed to us. We oppose the evil of the October Alliance, we do not want that role but someone must do it for the good of all.
Through lies, half-truths and deceit the October Alliance went on a Public Relations campaign with a goal of making you believe that we are something we are not. They lie, we treat our allies as we ourselves would like to be treated, we are now discussing a trade agreement between ourselves and nations of Adhervia and Marimaia that will be beneficial to all 3 of our nations. We have always expressed our friendship towards the nation of Neuva Rica and if they are in trouble we will come to their aid even today. Nation of Bjornya has not been our ally for a long time before the VCO was disbanded, they have sold their soul to the enemy for the all mighty dollar, such people can not be respected, they do not deserve respect.
We urge you to disregard the rantings of those hypocrites, they call our actions immoral while doing things a 100 fold more horrific! They say they want peace, but thenever we try to reach an agreement with them they always show through their provocative actions that they do not want peace, look at the last talks in Rome. Why was there a Devlin class battleship so close to our waters? Alone, without anything to justify the Cottish claim that it was doing routine patrol. A routine patrol done by a single vessel that in an event of emergency could not contact its head quarters. Does that seem believable to you? I tell you why that ship was so close to our waters, they were spying on us, and we knew it from the start, this is the same sort of situation that we already had with the spying vessel of the Empire of Layatreb except its carried out much more slopilly. And even though we knew what the Cots were doing we still offered a way out of the situation, we offered them to allow our civilian ships to haul the Cottish vessel to the nearest Cottish port. We even said that we will respect their wish for none of our men to come on board of the vessel in distress. What do we get? We get spit in our faces. The vessel is blown up and we react approprietly to this provocation, we leave the peacetalk table. We want peace, but the kind of peace that the side of the October Alliance will respect, if such peace is possible we will be willing to participate in it.
Can you trust these people? Remember Poland, remember Kaliningrad and ask yourself that.
http://newsinfo.ru/news/2005/12/medvedev_opt.jpg
Vladimir Vladimirovich Ivanov
President of Russian Federation
Bjorn how does this blog thing work? Did you add me?
Message from Russian Federation
A trade agreement has been reached with the nation of Yerjeff under which Russian Federation will be selling them large quantities of natural gas and crude oil effective immediately.
I swear my name is most misspelled in NS history.... :D
Announcement from the Russian Federation
The Russian government has just approved the creation of the Trans-European Canal. The construction will start in two locations, Gulf of Ob and central Estonian shoreline. The canal will connect the Baltic Sea with the Northern Ocean, allowing Russian merchant and military vessels free way out of the Baltic. This project will cost a total of 120 billion rubles then its complete, it will create thousand of jobs and help the economy. The canal will be several thousand kilometers long and the estimated construction time is 8 years. The construction will be done by the RusStroi Holding construction companies as well as many smaller temporary contractor firms. Foreign investment is appreciated.
Announcement from the Russian Federation
The Russian government has just approved the creation of the Trans-European Canal. The construction will start in two locations, Gulf of Ob and central Estonian shoreline. The canal will connect the Baltic Sea with the Northern Ocean, allowing Russian merchant and military vessels free way out of the Baltic. This project will cost a total of 120 billion rubles then its complete, it will create thousand of jobs and help the economy. The canal will be several thousand kilometers long and the estimated construction time is 8 years.
No offense Pushka, but don't you think 8 years is a stretch? It took the French and the Americans longer than that to build the Panama Canal and the ismus down there is a whole lot narrower. Maybe 20 years? Its 2000 kilometers long?
This would be a three gorges dam project in scope and size, impressive when completed for sure.
-Hawdawg
No offense Pushka, but don't you think 8 years is a stretch? It took the French and the Americans longer than that to build the Panama Canal and the ismus down there is a whole lot narrower. Maybe 20 years? Its 2000 kilometers long?
-Hawdawg
Well we got modern technologies today so maybe the time will be cut. Anyways you can consider 8 years an estimate to make the investors happy. Its just to indicate that it will not be complete for a long-long time.
True, I didn't think about the investors angle. They would be pissed if you told them 20 years to complete, hence some wouldn't invest. You can project 8 and then "overrun" by ten or so years due to construction delays. That's what eating up the chinese right now on the three gorges project. They still have to figure out the lock mechanism to allow shipping to pass through the dam.
I edited the post to include "Foreign investment is appreciated".
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 18:47
Bjorn how does this blog thing work? Did you add me?
2 FYI
Bjorn o ya (spelled with extra O)
NR and I have both (graciously) been accepted into the Roman Confederacy
Check your e-mail and follow the instructions.
2 FYI
Bjorn o ya (spelled with extra O)
NR and I have both (graciously) been accepted into the Roman Confederacy
Check your e-mail and follow the instructions.
You and NR getting accepted into Roman Confederacy impacts me somehow?
Bjorn sounds better, its a short name.
I clicked the link in my email, it asks me if i want to sign into the blogger, there do i register?
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 18:51
Nah, in your official government addresses you mispell it as Bjornya instead of Bjornoya
Apparently i am also selling Yerffej foodstuffs. Just putting it out there.
Oh and also:
Yer i responded to your TG
Brink i reresponded to your TG
Open Communique to Russia
The Realm would like to refute the so-called facts presented by the Russian Federation. We shall adress them one at the time.
First, the Russians claim that a "Devlin class battleship" was so close to their waters. The Realm of Cotland, formerly known as the Kingdom of Norway, has never, not once had a class of battleships named "Devlin" in its naval inventory. We did, however, maintain a supply of Devlin class destroyers, a class which had the sole purpose of escorting larger vessels. While a innovation in its time, the entire class of ships were retired from the fleet due to it being obsolete. The vessel in question, the destroyer 'Fusa' with pennant number D-125, was less than three weeks away from decommissioning and equipped with technology which was and is obsolete to the Cottish navy. Still, it was classified technology which we could not risk ending up in Russian hands.
Second, the reason that the Fusa was close to Russian waters was the fact that it had drifted there, having suffered massive and unrepairable engine damage (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10342744&postcount=1) more than 75 nautical miles further to the west, well away from Russian territorial waters. The Fusa was on a standard patrol in international waters, something which is has the right to do as per § 14 in the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139).
Third, the Russians did indeed offer to send rescue parties. What they neglected to inform the world of was that those rescue parties would be heavily armed and have as its intention to board and capture the Fusa, tow it into the nearest Russian port and take advantage of the classified technology. That was and is an option that isn't viable, not now nor ever, so the Realm was forced to do what was necessary to maintain its national defense. While still in international waters, the crew abandoned ship and the vessel was sunk at our own hands. This all took place within legal boundaries (see Protection of the Realm Act, § 16), and the Russian government was informed via Prime Minister Rothsky in Rome that sinking the Fusa was a viable option. That they failed to take that into consideration is none of our concern.
All claims above are facts which has been proven by the Cottish government time and time again, and they refute the Russian claims, which can only be described to be paranoid and verging on the border of warmongering. We stress that the vessel was still in international waters, and that the wreck is still the property of the Realm of Cotland. Any attempt of illegal seizure will result in legal and/or military action taken against the Russian Federation. We will consider it an act of piracy, something which will result in actions as listed in § 33 in the Protection of the Realm Act. We will naturally allow foreign governments to review the evidences the Realm has and decide for themselves in case they don't believe us.
We urge the Russian Federation to think before they speak and act the next time around, and to present propper evidence of their paranoid claims. The patience of the Realm is stretching thin.
- signed -
Jo Benkow
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Royal Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Dr. Ole Torp [Dr.Juris.]
Chief Legal Advisor
Royal Ministry of Justice and Police
Teh ninjas
25-02-2006, 19:43
The Empire invites the leaders of the Ninjan Empire and all nations around the Caribbean Sea to discuss its plan for trade in the Caribbean Sea. This plan includes free trade amongst Caribbean nations, usage of the Panama Canal at reduced fees, improved markets and trade products, and any other stipulations anyone might have.
The Empire will be happy to attend the meeting. Lord Fredrick Takenski Second Heir of the Throne will attend the conference.
OOC: Cotland, I remember there was some sort of reason, it may not be that you killed a bunch of people but it was definetly something. I did it awhile ago so I forgot.
Hm... any chance if it being lifted any time soon?
Open Communique to Russia
The Realm would like to refute the so-called facts presented by the Russian Federation. We shall adress them one at the time.
First, the Russians claim that a "Devlin class battleship" was so close to their waters. The Realm of Cotland, formerly known as the Kingdom of Norway, has never, not once had a class of battleships named "Devlin" in its naval inventory. We did, however, maintain a supply of Devlin class destroyers, a class which had the sole purpose of escorting larger vessels. While a innovation in its time, the entire class of ships were retired from the fleet due to it being obsolete. The vessel in question, the destroyer 'Fusa' with pennant number D-125, was less than three weeks away from decommissioning and equipped with technology which was and is obsolete to the Cottish navy. Still, it was classified technology which we could not risk ending up in Russian hands.
Second, the reason that the Fusa was close to Russian waters was the fact that it had drifted there, having suffered massive and unrepairable engine damage (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10342744&postcount=1) more than 75 nautical miles further to the west, well away from Russian territorial waters. The Fusa was on a standard patrol in international waters, something which is has the right to do as per § 14 in the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139).
Third, the Russians did indeed offer to send rescue parties. What they neglected to inform the world of was that those rescue parties would be heavily armed and have as its intention to board and capture the Fusa, tow it into the nearest Russian port and take advantage of the classified technology. That was and is an option that isn't viable, not now nor ever, so the Realm was forced to do what was necessary to maintain its national defense. While still in international waters, the crew abandoned ship and the vessel was sunk at our own hands. This all took place within legal boundaries (see Protection of the Realm Act, § 16), and the Russian government was informed via Prime Minister Rothsky in Rome that sinking the Fusa was a viable option. That they failed to take that into consideration is none of our concern.
All claims above are facts which has been proven by the Cottish government time and time again, and they refute the Russian claims, which can only be described to be paranoid and verging on the border of warmongering. We stress that the vessel was still in international waters, and that the wreck is still the property of the Realm of Cotland. Any attempt of illegal seizure will result in legal and/or military action taken against the Russian Federation. We will consider it an act of piracy, something which will result in actions as listed in § 33 in the Protection of the Realm Act. We will naturally allow foreign governments to review the evidences the Realm has and decide for themselves in case they don't believe us.
We urge the Russian Federation to think before they speak and act the next time around, and to present propper evidence of their paranoid claims. The patience of the Realm is stretching thin.
- signed -
Jo Benkow
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Royal Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Dr. Ole Torp [Dr.Juris.]
Chief Legal Advisor
Royal Ministry of Justice and Police
Responce of the Russian Federation
Here we have an example of the lies and deceit member states of TOA use as their prime tactic.
First of all, the Cottish side themselves stated that the Fusa had a sole purpose of escorting larger vessels, yet it was alone in the middle of the ocean, hundreds of miles away from anything it could be escorting. There is no logic to sending a destroyer on a patrol, meanwhile there is plenty to suggest that the Fusa was attempting spying operations. Cottish government thinks that the world is incapable of connecting the dots, we urge you to proove them wrong.
And now a more obvious form of deceit. Our rescue parties were not armed nor did they have any intention of seizing the vessel, we stated quite perfectly that we were going to haul that vessel to a nearest Cottish port and we would not do anything that would compromise whatever classified information was on that ship. The vessel we were going to use did not have any arms on board exept for TT pistols issued to officerial stuff and a single Strela portable anti-aircraft one shot system that the crew was never trained to use. In addition we did not dispatch any warships as an escort for the one recovery vessel we did send. The statement issued by the Cottish Empire is thus an utter lie.
As for the wreck, we have never agreed to follow the guidelines of the Cottish Protection of the Realm Act, the wreck is now inside our waters and we will do with it as we please.
We urge the world's nations to see the Cottish government for what it really is, a regime that is bent on provocation, lies and deceit.
And to the Cottish government, we are not concerned with your patience. It is you who should drop the sharade because our patience is running out. We will not be as courteous should an incident like that occur again.
The Empire will be happy to attend the meeting. Lord Fredrick Takenski Second Heir of the Throne will attend the conference.
OOC: Cotland, I remember there was some sort of reason, it may not be that you killed a bunch of people but it was definetly something. I did it awhile ago so I forgot.
Hey dude, check TGs.
Announcement from the Russian government
After a series of negotiations we have signed a trading agreement with the nation of Ottoman Khaif. Most major products traded will be steel from our side and cotton from side of the Ottoman Khaif, however there will be trade in different products as well.
To reduce the global dependency on fossil fuels, Russian Federation based company "MirAtom" is offering its nuclear powerplant constructing services to nations all around the world.
Open communique
You claim that there is no logic in sending destroyers to patrol areas of ocean all by them selves. Yet, most of the worlds nations does exactly that: sending lone cruisers, destroyers, frigates and even cutters to patrol oceans. Once again, we ask the Russian Federation to check facts before claiming things.
As for the Russian claims that it had no intention of capturing the Fusa using illegal means, naturally you would claim that. Do you think that the Realm is stupid? Have you ever heard of a thing called a "Trojan horse"? Look it up and see what you can find out.
Again, we see that the Russian government is out of contact with reality. The Cottish Empire has not been in existance for the past five years, when it was disbanded. We ask the Russian government yet again to get its head out of its arse and check the facts before speaking.
Have a nice day.
OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10368258&postcount=50 - The hull was blown to smithereens 12 hours after it was sunk, so you have nothing left to pick up, save the occational bit and piece of burned, blown up hunk of metal.
ATTENTION: TYRANDIS
You have laid claim to Australia that was legally taken from you because of your MIA status. You said yourself that you were going to take it back from Norwegian Hands. If you in fact are going to do this how about starting the RP for the Invasion already? We can already establish the fact that you have a flotilla of 400 vessels off the coast of Africa that were heading to Bjorn's country. Since you now have a NAP with Bjorn. should we assume they have turned and now headed toward the land of kangaroo's? I know you've been online because you responded to my first TG I sent you yesterday. So what's the holdup bro? Is that an echo? Dude seriously lets get in the game man.
-Hawdawg
Open communique
You claim that there is no logic in sending destroyers to patrol areas of ocean all by them selves. Yet, most of the worlds nations does exactly that: sending lone cruisers, destroyers, frigates and even cutters to patrol oceans. Once again, we ask the Russian Federation to check facts before claiming things.
As for the Russian claims that it had no intention of capturing the Fusa using illegal means, naturally you would claim that. Do you think that the Realm is stupid? Have you ever heard of a thing called a "Trojan horse"? Look it up and see what you can find out.
Again, we see that the Russian government is out of contact with reality. The Cottish Empire has not been in existance for the past five years, when it was disbanded. We ask the Russian government yet again to get its head out of its arse and check the facts before speaking.
Have a nice day.
OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10368258&postcount=50 - The hull was blown to smithereens 12 hours after it was sunk, so you have nothing left to pick up, save the occational bit and piece of burned, blown up hunk of metal.
Responce
You screwed up now you're trying to cover it up, heads of most nations are intelligent enough to not be fooled. We have nothing more to say to you.
OOC: Yeah, i know. I was just stating that i could do whatever i want with the wreck since its in my territorial waters.
Tyrandis
25-02-2006, 20:42
ATTENTION: TYRANDIS
You have laid claim to Australia that was legally taken from you because of your MIA status. You said yourself that you were going to take it back from Norwegian Hands. If you in fact are going to do this how about starting the RP for the Invasion already? We can already establish the fact that you have a flotilla of 400 vessels off the coast of Africa that were heading to Bjorn's country. Since you now have a NAP with Bjorn. should we assume they have turned and now headed toward the land of kangaroo's? I know you've been online because you responded to my first TG I sent you yesterday. So what's the holdup bro? Is that an echo? Dude seriously lets get in the game man.
-Hawdawg
OOC:
Not yet, as Pushka, I, TN, and a few others are still organizing for the campaign ahead. Consider that my deployed taskforce has stopped and is awaiting further orders. I'm just talking to my allies regarding a broad-front strategy to deal with our enemies; we aren't fighting until we've worked out a plan.
And I don't really have a NAP w/ Bjorn, he just said he wouldn't interfere with my deployments.
OOC:
Well can we all agree then that you are planning on attacking Australia? Is this a reasonable assumption?
-Hawdawg
OOC:
Haw, you tried to get Tyr to aid you guys in the war against me. Wow. I seriously did not expect that one from you personally.
Tyrandis
25-02-2006, 20:49
OOC:
Well can we all agree then that you are planning on attacking Australia? Is this a reasonable assumption?
-Hawdawg
OOC-wise, yes. IC, you just know someone's going to be hit later, but not the target.
Haw, you tried to get Tyr to aid you guys in the war against me. Wow. I seriously did not expect that one from you personally.
Its nothing personal Pushka, I always keep all options on the table all the time. Sorta like political hot potato so to speak. We can all dream up plans the hard choices are the things we actually carry out.
-Hawdawg
OOC-wise, yes. IC, you just know someone's going to be hit later, but not the target.
Fair enough, I am just trying to get a feel for when this is all going to take place. I have some things on my radar soon and I am trying to work around them.
IC'ly your fleet of 400 vessels is going to raise alot of red flags. In fact, lets just note that I have a P-3C monitoring the situation for grins.
-Hawdawg
Dweladelfia prime
25-02-2006, 21:01
I now own Hirgizstan's part of antartica. Hirgizstan now owns Howland island and Pitcarin Islands.
Can this please be approved?
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 21:33
Can this please be approved?
Patience, Lay is a busy man. Hirgy already confirmed it just wait until the next update
United States of Brink
25-02-2006, 21:42
Windhoek Relations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10493386#post10493386)
Rp for Nations that got my TG
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 22:00
Windhoek Relations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10493386#post10493386)
Rp for Nations that got my TG
:confused:
United States of Brink
25-02-2006, 22:04
Oh sorry Bjor. LoL, its to build relations with other nations. We already have good relations.. i hope.
Your more than welcome to join if youd like.
Bjornoya
25-02-2006, 22:06
Oh sorry Bjor. LoL, its to build relations with other nations. We already have good relations.. i hope.
Your more than welcome to join if youd like.
Oh Ok, I didn't want to be accused of not attending when I should have is all. Yeah, we're already good so no problems, good luck!
OH NOOOOOOO! We lost to the Checz. 3-0. Damn. I watched the whole thing, that was ridiculus.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10494076#post10494076
Voronej Pact [Earth II, Invite Only]
[NS]Kreynoria
26-02-2006, 02:22
To TOA members: you are closing off your territorial waters to Pushka, so why can't he do that to you?
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 02:56
Closing or trying to close the Suez Canal will result in an increase in the cost of trade between Europe:
Cotland, NG, Rome, NTG, Liebermonk
and the Far East and East Africa
UER, Psychotika, Terronian, Azimeth, Spizania, Andrehervia, Kreynoria, TN, Hirizstan, Yerffej
Nations who 'control' the Suez Canal andRed Sea are:
Cotland (North)
Pushka, TN (South)
From what I've seen Pushka has tried to close the canal (although TN is showing an economical intuition and charging for passage) to TOA members and myself. However, as I have noted cutting trade would effect not just TOA but everyone in the listed here. Supplies are not being sent from one port in Cotland to another port in Cotland, they are being shipped everywhere in the east. Cutting off the canal would piss of much more than TOA members as other neutral countries will have to wait another month at least for supplies to find alternative routes. Trying to cut-off only Russian or only TOA trade routes will not just hurt their respective countries but everyone (unless a nation is entirelly independent of all outside economic influences in which case we should all follow suit and live in our own little bubbles, hell why have an E2?) What I have outlined is what realistically should happen.
The Lightning Star
26-02-2006, 03:09
If they cut off Suez, I'm going to re-open it. Forcefully. Suez is the shortest route to Carthaginian Arabia, as well as Carthaginian India. I don't want to have to go around the cape when I could get supplies to Jiddah 1,000 times faster by just going through Suez. Also, remember that my military hasn't been weakened by war, and I have no doubt I could forcefully seize Suez and Gibraltar, thus giving me absolute control over the mediterranean. I do not want to do that, as I am fine with just sitting in North Afrika, trading with everyone. But if you guys shut off entrance to the Mediterranean, all hell will break loose. I'm not sure you would like me to Jihad your ass into the ground.
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 03:15
Pushka, supposedly in conjunction with TN is trying to close the canal too TOA members and myself (TN has compromised I believe with Lay, not sure about other members) Your ships can go thorugh as far as I know, but ships headed your way from certain TOA members will not be able to go through the small passage between Yemen and Djibouti, so shouldn't effect you so much unless Cotland or TN decide to completely close off their sections.
The Lightning Star
26-02-2006, 03:22
Pushka, supposedly in conjunction with TN is trying to close the canal too TOA members and myself (TN has compromised I believe with Lay, not sure about other members) Your ships can go thorugh as far as I know, but ships headed your way from certain TOA members will not be able to go through the small passage between Yemen and Djibouti, so shouldn't effect you so much unless Cotland or TN decide to completely close off their sections.
That's good, because us Kapitaliztz like our money; and when people take away our money, we get pissed off.
If they cut off Suez, I'm going to re-open it. Forcefully. Suez is the shortest route to Carthaginian Arabia, as well as Carthaginian India. I don't want to have to go around the cape when I could get supplies to Jiddah 1,000 times faster by just going through Suez. Also, remember that my military hasn't been weakened by war, and I have no doubt I could forcefully seize Suez and Gibraltar, thus giving me absolute control over the mediterranean. I do not want to do that, as I am fine with just sitting in North Afrika, trading with everyone. But if you guys shut off entrance to the Mediterranean, all hell will break loose. I'm not sure you would like me to Jihad your ass into the ground.
Easy TLS the straits of Gibraltar are open to your ships. In fact they are open to everyones except Pushkan and Tyrandi vessels. I closed the straits to those two countries for aggression towards Bjorn. I also closed the White Sea Canal to there ships, but yours may freely pass to and fro (minus the toll in the WS Canal) as much as you like. No need to jihad anything. There is a simple way to bypass this whole blockade thing, I know a way around it but I am not gonna tell. See if ya'll can figure it out.
-Hawdawg
Teh ninjas
26-02-2006, 03:28
I closed off the straits way before Pushka even had control of Dibjiouti (I spelled it wrong, I don't care). It's nothing against TOA, or anyone specifically. Everyone has been given the same treatment for passage. Pushka included.
Again I'm not trying to close off the Suez to annoy any specific nation. I did this some time ago in opposition to something Cotland did. (I forgot what he did) If anyone wants passage through all they have to do is ask. Some may be denied passage due to an aggressive imperialistic foreign policy, but most will be allowed passage. Just as long as you meet all measures, and pay the toll. (all 100 million dollars of it) IMO that's not too much.
Teh ninjas
26-02-2006, 03:30
There is a simple way to bypass this whole blockade thing, I know a way around it but I am not gonna tell. See if ya'll can figure it out.
-Hawdawg
Oooo tell me, tell me.
Kreynoria']To TOA members: you are closing off your territorial waters to Pushka, so why can't he do that to you?
He can do as he wishes in his waters, no one disputes this fact. As I said above, I have found a means around the above mentioned subject, but I am not sharing the secret.
-Hawdawg
All Pacifinesian alliance members, read bulletin IMMEDIATELY.
Dweladelfia prime
26-02-2006, 03:38
Message to the world
The Presbyterian Imperium wishs to open trade routes with other nations. We need Steel, and Uranium. We have Silver, Gold, copper, Cobalt, Nickel to export. Please consider this offer.
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 03:41
I closed off the straits way before Pushka even had control of Dibjiouti (I spelled it wrong, I don't care). It's nothing against TOA, or anyone specifically. Everyone has been given the same treatment for passage. Pushka included.
Again I'm not trying to close off the Suez to annoy any specific nation. I did this some time ago in opposition to something Cotland did. (I forgot what he did) If anyone wants passage through all they have to do is ask. Some may be denied passage due to an aggressive imperialistic foreign policy, but most will be allowed passage. Just as long as you meet all measures, and pay the toll. (all 100 million dollars of it) IMO that's not too much.
Can I please use the Suez Canal (for the while)? I got the money.
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 03:42
Easy TLS the straits of Gibraltar are open to your ships. In fact they are open to everyones except Pushkan and Tyrandi vessels. I closed the straits to those two countries for aggression towards Bjorn. I also closed the White Sea Canal to there ships, but yours may freely pass to and fro (minus the toll in the WS Canal) as much as you like. No need to jihad anything. There is a simple way to bypass this whole blockade thing, I know a way around it but I am not gonna tell. See if ya'll can figure it out.
-Hawdawg
Fly?
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 03:44
That's good, because us Kapitaliztz like our money; and when people take away our money, we get pissed off.
Very, very pissed off. Hey, Visara and Barbary Coast are on the same side (RC) now. Wanna take over the world? Or maybe just the coffee-bean industry?
Message to the world
The Presbyterian Imperium wishs to open trade routes with other nations. We need Steel, and Uranium. We have Silver, Gold, copper, Cobalt, Nickel to export. Please consider this offer.
We would like to open trading relations with your nation, we have both steel and uranium that we can trade with.
-Russian Ministry of Commerce
Bjornoya
26-02-2006, 03:47
He can do as he wishes in his waters, no one disputes this fact. As I said above, I have found a means around the above mentioned subject, but I am not sharing the secret.
-Hawdawg
I think I know, maybe if the problem is a route is from our region to the Pacific there is another way besides around S. Africa.
Teh ninjas
26-02-2006, 03:49
Can I please use the Suez Canal (for the while)? I got the money.
You just have to agree to the following; allow my ships to search at random vessels suspected of carrying weapons. If weapons are found the the ship will be scuttled, the weapons destroyed and the crew handed over to your nation. Civilian and merchant ships only, and just pay the 100 million dollar fee.