NationStates Jolt Archive

Oh. Ok. Let us think about it, ok?

Who have territory near the equator?

I got Sri Lanka.

I got Sri Lanka.

Yeah. Let's hear what the others have to say. And I guess that from now on, we should maybe post this stuff in the space program thread. Sorry Layarteb :)

The US uses Cape Canavral in Florida so anything south of that is only better. I'd say we use that as the line of demarcation. Anything south of Cape Canavral to the equator and equally on the southern hemisphere. Launching from Colorado would take a helluva lot extra power.

Hey. About the hurricane. I'm ready for it. but I'm thinking it would be nice to wait for Binthor to reply to my Cuban invasion a bit before we spring the thing. That way, you know, we're both hit equally.

And as for space, UI've got a lot of Caribbean islands. Want to use one?

Hey. About the hurricane. I'm ready for it. but I'm thinking it would be nice to wait for Binthor to reply to my Cuban invasion a bit before we spring the thing. That way, you know, we're both hit equally.

And as for space, UI've got a lot of Caribbean islands. Want to use one?

Yep it's going to be a duesy that wrecks havoc. I'm getting the biggest brunt probably.

Sorry I haven't been around guys. Big project due in a week, and another due this Thursday. Then there's finals to study for....

Don't consider me killed off of E2. Just that I have limited time to RP and everything because of everything that's due...and then we got the Swim Team practices for two hours a day....gah.

If I don't respond to TG's for awhile, don't think that I haven't read them and noted them.

BTW, how'd the hurricane thing go?

Sorry I haven't been around guys. Big project due in a week, and another due this Thursday. Then there's finals to study for....

Don't consider me killed off of E2. Just that I have limited time to RP and everything because of everything that's due...and then we got the Swim Team practices for two hours a day....gah.

If I don't respond to TG's for awhile, don't think that I haven't read them and noted them.

BTW, how'd the hurricane thing go?

It's still in the planning stages.

Uh, layarteb, the Clash of Imperial Interests thread has over 50 posts.

ITD's homeland exists in the pacific and has several suitable islands that could be converted to a launch pad.

Uh, layarteb, the Clash of Imperial Interests thread has over 50 posts.

Well I'll have to update that.

The US uses Cape Canavral in Florida so anything south of that is only better. I'd say we use that as the line of demarcation. Anything south of Cape Canavral to the equator and equally on the southern hemisphere. Launching from Colorado would take a helluva lot extra power.

Just use my Mexico

I posted in the thread requesting to be part of the program, hope it was okay.

I know you won't want to launch from canada, but much of our nation is unpopulated plains, perfect for testing. We are willing to construct a multi-million CYSC facility for research, testing and development, as well as a small airport for taking scientists from every nation straight to the facility if needs be.

I posted in the thread requesting to be part of the program, hope it was okay.

I know you won't want to launch from canada, but much of our nation is unpopulated plains, perfect for testing. We are willing to construct a multi-million CYSC facility for research, testing and development, as well as a small airport for taking scientists from every nation straight to the facility if needs be.

No problem.

Might as well RP one being constructed, since I have nothing better to do at this time...

Let's also make sure this place has a large airfield.

Let's also make sure this place has a large airfield.

3,300meters sound good? Thats long enough for everything up to an including a A380. Unless you plan to land a space shuttle there, which would involve a rather large and expensive extension.

How many facilities will we have? A launch (at least one secondary), several landing sites, training & logistics (maybe same as launch?). Anyone else?

How many facilities will we have? A launch (at least one secondary), several landing sites, training & logistics (maybe same as launch?). Anyone else?

Medical center, research facilities (probably the same as logistics)

Can someone TG me when the thread about the hurricane comes up?

Can someone TG me when the thread about the hurricane comes up?

You're a member of the Roman Confederacy, right?

Yeah

Your military assistance is required in Sicily. Yours and all other members of the Roman Confederacy...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380343

Go to Page 3. Read Devil 505.

Is Layarteb working on new maps?

Is Layarteb working on new maps?

Well.... I dont know... are you?

.: New maps available :.

Love the maps. However, not to rag on you, but you've forgotten my Jarvis Island claim.

Since no-one's shown any interest in it at all, would it be possible to add Brunei to my claims? I just did a thread search and it didn't come up at all.

Since no-one's shown any interest in it at all, would it be possible to add Brunei to my claims? I just did a thread search and it didn't come up at all.

I do believe I claimed Brunei a while back in one of my posts... I'll go dig it up.

Hogsweat Claims Brunei (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379672&highlight=Brunei)

I do believe I claimed Brunei a while back in one of my posts... I'll go dig it up.

Ah, sorry about that. I just saw your Liberate:Asia, where you declared war and nothing else happened. You'd better show that thread to Layarteb, as no-one else seems to know about it.

Love the maps. However, not to rag on you, but you've forgotten my Jarvis Island claim.

It's not on any of the maps and attempts to find Ocean maps is fruitless.

Hogs, I'll add that.

Ack, Layarteb, we plead that you give us control over Maryland. We have no clue as to how it fell into your hands, but we will pay you handsomely for it.

http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=Colodia

As you can see, we have the ability to pay handsomely for it.

Ack, Layarteb, we plead that you give us control over Maryland. We have no clue as to how it fell into your hands, but we will pay you handsomely for it.

http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=Colodia

As you can see, we have the ability to pay handsomely for it.

Make me an offer in TG.

How it got into our hands?
Sevaris went bye bye, I went hello...

We'd even consider letting you have control over Kentucky or Tennessee. Or perhaps West Virginia if you do not wish for money.

A TG is waiting for your response.

A TG is waiting for your response.

As do you...

The EOL has transferred ownership of Maryland to Colodia in exchange for $850B and ownership of West Virginia.

I'd like to claim the Pitcairn/Gambier islands for Cotland (providing that I have enough square miles left. If not, I will give away the Faroes in order to get enough sq.miles).

I'd like to claim the Pitcairn/Gambier islands for Cotland (providing that I have enough square miles left. If not, I will give away the Faroes in order to get enough sq.miles).

You have plenty of space. You might as well just claim French Polynesia and the Pitcairn Islands.

You have plenty of space. You might as well just claim French Polynesia and the Pitcairn Islands.

Ok. Then I claim French Polynesia too, if it's ok.

Ok. Then I claim French Polynesia too, if it's ok.

Excellent (easier to do on the map).

Excellent (easier to do on the map).

thank you. Finally, I get somewhere to place my secret research facility...

Did I say that out loud?!?

thank you. Finally, I get somewhere to place my secret research facility...

Did I say that out loud?!?

Yes you did. Map updated too.

Guyana and Suriname has been purchased by the EOL from New Jyria for $150B.

The Republic of Gatabug would like to claim to Northern Iraq and Western Iran as its own.

Map updated too.

Nope...

The Republic of Gatabug would like to claim to Northern Iraq and Western Iran as its own.

Nope.

Nope...

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

I would just like to announce that I have recently made a transaction with Layarteb, and he now possesses the territories of Suriname and Guyana, just so there's no confusion.

Earth I
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358713

Earth III
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376175

Earth IV
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357210

Earth V
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356185

Earth VI (Hataria)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385521

Earth VI (Holy Paradise)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375336

Earth BC
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369

Earth Cold War
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388378

Earth DA
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387315

RL Nation Claims
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779

Legend
Red signifies a violation
Orange signifies renounced but a problem
Resolved

Anagonia (Earth VI [HP])
Arenumberg (Earth V, Earth BC, Earth DA)
Casana (Earth III)
Generic Empire (Earth Cold War)
Greenmanbry (Earth V, Earth VI [HP])
Hogsweat (Earth I)
IDF (Earth I, Earth IV, Earth V)
Lethislavania (Earth V)
Nerotika (Earth BC, Earth Cold War)
Procco (Earth III, Earth V)
Pyschotika (Earth Cold War)
Shillonia (Earth V)
Soviet Bloc (Earth I, RL Nation Claims)
The Parthians (Earth Cold War)
Tyrandis (Earth I, Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.

To those who are listed as blue: I thank you for resolving this in a timely matter.

Please note that all nations have until Wednesday, 1.19.05, 8:00 PM EST, to resolve this situation. Any nation who does not by that time will be considered as someone who is going for another Earth and thereby removed from Earth II.

Celtayoshi would like to claim the Kiribati Island group. ( Touches the Northwest corner of Cotlands Island Group)

RP will be provided if needed, and I shouldn't be over the limit

Celtayoshi would like to claim the Kiribati Island group. ( Touches the Northwest corner of Cotlands Island Group)

RP will be provided if needed, and I shouldn't be over the limit

Confirmed. Nah you're no where near your limit.

Earth I
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358713

Earth III
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376175

Earth IV
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357210

Earth V
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356185

Earth VI (Hataria)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385521

Earth VI (Holy Paradise)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375336

Earth BC
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369

Earth Cold War
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388378

Earth DA
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387315

RL Nation Claims
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779

Legend
Red signifies a violation
Orange signifies renounced but a problem

Anagonia (Earth VI [HP])
Arenumberg (Earth V, Earth BC, Earth DA)
Casana (Earth III)
Generic Empire (Earth Cold War)
Greenmanbry (Earth V, Earth VI [HP])
Hogsweat (Earth I)
IDF (Earth I, Earth IV, Earth V)
Lethislavania (Earth V)
Nerotika (Earth BC, Earth Cold War)
Procco (Earth III, Earth V)
Pyschotika (Earth Cold War)
Shillonia (Earth V)
Soviet Bloc (Earth I, RL Nation Claims)
The Parthians (Earth Cold War)
Tyrandis (Earth I)
Tyrandis (Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.

How long have the people on the list got to get off it?

Well thats crap, you can count me out of here then.

Okay. If I can't lay claim to Iraq and Iran, can I lay claim to anything on the West-Asia map? Like below or to the right of Saudi Arabia? I don't really understand the whole "land distribution matrix" so I don't really know if I can.

Tyrandis (Earth I)
Tyrandis (Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.

For Earth I: It has been acknowledged that I withdrew my claim for that, although IH hasn't updated the thread in quite some time.

For Earth CWE: If I must, I will withdraw from that thread.

As I would rather participate in ECW (Earth Cold War), I hereby renounce all claims here in Earth II.

I don't RP Earth's anymore, or anything in II for that matter. I hereby renounce my claims.

Okay. If I can't lay claim to Iraq and Iran, can I lay claim to anything on the West-Asia map? Like below or to the right of Saudi Arabia? I don't really understand the whole "land distribution matrix" so I don't really know if I can.

If you take a look at the maps of Western Asia and Africa, you can see that pretty much everything's taken. But since several people are renouncing their claims now, you can claim those. But be fast. First come, first serve...

Earth I
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358713

Earth III
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376175

Earth IV
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357210

Earth V
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356185

Earth VI (Hataria)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385521

Earth VI (Holy Paradise)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375336

Earth BC
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369

Earth Cold War
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388378

Earth DA
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387315

RL Nation Claims
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779

Legend
Red signifies a violation
Orange signifies renounced but a problem

Anagonia (Earth VI [HP])
Arenumberg (Earth V, Earth BC, Earth DA)
Casana (Earth III)
Generic Empire (Earth Cold War)
Greenmanbry (Earth V, Earth VI [HP])
Hogsweat (Earth I)
IDF (Earth I, Earth IV, Earth V)
Lethislavania (Earth V)
Nerotika (Earth BC, Earth Cold War)
Procco (Earth III, Earth V)
Pyschotika (Earth Cold War)
Shillonia (Earth V)
Soviet Bloc (Earth I, RL Nation Claims)
The Parthians (Earth Cold War)
Tyrandis (Earth I)
Tyrandis (Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.


I didn't know there was a multiple earth rule oh and Earth BC isn't the same time period nor is Cold War, and I havn't really planned to play that other Earth anyways. I only claimed cuz Nerotika wanted me too. And if I was interested, I was just going to go all out war anyways lol....but no not really interested in the Earth CW. And besides, should it really matter if someone is in another earth BUT its a different timeline?

.php?t=377369

Earth Cold War
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388378


Legend
Red signifies a violation
Orange signifies renounced but a problem

Anagonia (Earth VI [HP])
Arenumberg (Earth V, Earth BC, Earth DA)
Casana (Earth III)
Generic Empire (Earth Cold War)
Greenmanbry (Earth V, Earth VI [HP])
Hogsweat (Earth I)
IDF (Earth I, Earth IV, Earth V)
Lethislavania (Earth V)
Nerotika (Earth BC, Earth Cold War)
Procco (Earth III, Earth V)
Pyschotika (Earth Cold War)
Shillonia (Earth V)
Soviet Bloc (Earth I, RL Nation Claims)
The Parthians (Earth Cold War)
Tyrandis (Earth I)
Tyrandis (Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.

As I wish to maintain my earth II claims, I'll renounce my conflicting ones in CW earth.

Gintonpar: You know I didn't think of that.

Arenumberg: You got it. It's been in writing on the first post since before you came here though. It's your responsible to read all the of the contract before you sign it.

Gatabug: The land-distribution matrix is NOT hard to understand. Also before you claim look at the maps and the claims list.

Tyrandis: Alright that works. Wasn't sure what the deal with the Earth I was.

Generic empire: You got it. It's sucky to see you go but you win.

Lethislavania: Roger that.

Pyschotika: It's in writing on the very first post. It's your responsibility to read all the terms of a contract before you sign it. It doesn't matter what time period or what not. Colodia and I discussed the multiple time period when Earth BC came out. Now that three more have progressed since it's time to act.

The Parthians: Roger that.

Earth I
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358713

Earth III
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376175

Earth IV
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357210

Earth V
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356185

Earth VI (Hataria)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385521

Earth VI (Holy Paradise)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375336

Earth BC
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369

Earth Cold War
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388378

Earth DA
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387315

RL Nation Claims
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779

Legend
Red signifies a violation
Orange signifies renounced but a problem

Anagonia (Earth VI [HP])
Arenumberg (Earth V, Earth BC, Earth DA)
Casana (Earth III)
Generic Empire (Earth Cold War)
Greenmanbry (Earth V, Earth VI [HP])
Hogsweat (Earth I)
IDF (Earth I, Earth IV, Earth V)
Lethislavania (Earth V)
Nerotika (Earth BC, Earth Cold War)
Procco (Earth III, Earth V)
Pyschotika (Earth Cold War)
Shillonia (Earth V)
Soviet Bloc (Earth I, RL Nation Claims)
The Parthians (Earth Cold War)
Tyrandis (Earth I)
Tyrandis (Earth Cold War)

To those who are listed as orange: You have a slightly different problem. All of you have renounced your claims on the various other Earths but yet they still have you listed on the rosters. I know some of them might not be active but I need to know if they ever acknowledged your leaving. You can privately TG me or post here, it doesn't matter which.

To those who are listed as red: You have the main problem. All of you are not subject to the puppet rule as you all joined after the no multiple Earth rule went into effect or you were not present in another Earth at the time of the rule thereby negating your puppet status. The puppet status requires that you have less than 150,000 square miles of territory with a 7,500 square mile buffer. All of those who are under the puppet status fit in precisely. However, none of you are subject to that. Thereby, as I have asked once before in a situation as such, you must choose between Earth II or the other Earth(s) that you are in. We do enforce the no multiple Earth rule.




Alright, this is how I believe it goes... First off its Earth RL Claims by Chellis. Now, that slowed down or something so Holy Panooly created a thread with much the same claims (because I 'automatically' held Estonia and Latvia). Then, since HP went inactive for awhile, Independent Hitmen made a thread to carry on HP's thread. Independent Hitmen's thread is where I handed over the last of those territories (Estonia and Latvia) to Russian Forces. If needed, I can post in each informing that Russian Forces now controls Estonia and Latvia. Hope that clears it up.

Alright, this is how I believe it goes... First off its Earth RL Claims by Chellis. Now, that slowed down or something so Holy Panooly created a thread with much the same claims (because I 'automatically' held Estonia and Latvia). Then, since HP went inactive for awhile, Independent Hitmen made a thread to carry on HP's thread. Independent Hitmen's thread is where I handed over the last of those territories (Estonia and Latvia) to Russian Forces. If needed, I can post in each informing that Russian Forces now controls Estonia and Latvia. Hope that clears it up.

No it's fine. Tyrandis pretty much summed it up as well. Just curiosity :).

Parthians is selling Oman (not the part in UAE though) for 1.2b. One step closer to consolidating the country. What to do about Gambia?

EDIT-is that island off the coast of Oman unclaimed, part of Oman, or not really there? If it is there can i claim it?

Parthians is selling Oman (not the part in UAE though) for 1.2b. One step closer to consolidating the country. What to do about Gambia?

Sold to you? If so just have him double post the affirmation.

As I would rather participate in ECW (Earth Cold War), I hereby renounce all claims here in Earth II.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait....

Does that mean I can get Mozambique back!

Layarteb! Me want Mozambique!

I'll get rid of MYanmar if'n I have to. I don't like that Place Anyhoo.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait....

Does that mean I can get Mozambique back!

Layarteb! Me want Mozambique!

I'll get rid of MYanmar if'n I have to. I don't like that Place Anyhoo.

Si you'll have to give that up to fit under 2,000,000 square miles.

Si you'll have to give that up to fit under 2,000,000 square miles.

Meh. Myanmar sucks. Big time.

Meh. Myanmar sucks. Big time.

LOL...well it's all set and updated...

LOL...well it's all set and updated...

*chaching*!

Heh heh heh!

Now, on to the Ethnic clean...I mean re-building of Mozambique....

Trinidad and Tobago please, as it appears they're up for grabs now. Unless I'm wrong. Then nevermind.

Meh. Myanmar sucks. Big time.
ouch, my dad was born and raised there...:(

but yeah, it does

Trinidad and Tobago please, as it appears they're up for grabs now. Unless I'm wrong. Then nevermind.

No it's up for grabs...And it's yours...

No it's up for grabs...And it's yours...
Woohoo! My dream for a Caribbean empire is almost realized! Now, to get on with Cuba.....

Does anyone know if Binthor is active? He hasn't technically "replied" to an invasion that's sorta happening right now....

Woohoo! My dream for a Caribbean empire is almost realized! Now, to get on with Cuba.....

Does anyone know if Binthor is active? He hasn't technically "replied" to an invasion that's sorta happening right now....

He logs on regularly I'm not sure how he is with RP'ing. He did do that Swaziland RP not very long ago.

Any chance of adding Myanmar to my claims? It's just what I need to expand my little SE Asian colonial protectorate.

Any chance of adding Myanmar to my claims? It's just what I need to expand my little SE Asian colonial protectorate.

It's yours.

I renounced all other Earth claims so I don't see why they are still up there. Hataria hasn't been on in a while so I think Earth IV is dead and I gave up Earth V a while ago along with Earth IV

I renounced all other Earth claims so I don't see why they are still up there. Hataria hasn't been on in a while so I think Earth IV is dead and I gave up Earth V a while ago along with Earth IV

Not a problem, just needed clarification of anything.

Parthians is selling Oman (not the part in UAE though) for 1.2b. One step closer to consolidating the country. What to do about Gambia?

EDIT-is that island off the coast of Oman unclaimed, part of Oman, or not really there? If it is there can i claim it?

Do you mean 1.2 trillion? I thought that was what we agreed on. I ain't gonna sell oman for a paltry sum of 1.2 billion.

Any chance of adding Myanmar to my claims? It's just what I need to expand my little SE Asian colonial protectorate.

Howd-didl-y howdy, neighbor!
*begins massing troops on the border*

(j/k)

Do you mean 1.2 trillion? I thought that was what we agreed on. I ain't gonna sell oman for a paltry sum of 1.2 billion.

Hey, can I have the rest of Pakistan please?

I would like to claim Georgia, as it seems to be available.

Azerbaijan too

Both are yours.

With (sniff) the Generic Empire's absence, I'd like to renounce my claim over Altai Krai and claim Bulgaria, the Midway Islands, the Kermandec Islands, the Cook Islands, Vanuatu, Micronesia, Samoa (both the nation and American Samoa) and the Solomon Islands.

I've also pointed out where the Kermandec and Jarvis Islands are:

http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/pacificocean.jpg

(I'd also like to state that my claims over the Altai Republic and the Tuva Republic are not listed when they should be, at least to my understanding)

Cotland check your TG I sent you an offer for a NB in the Pacific.

-Hawdawg

Cotland check your TG I sent you an offer for a NB in the Pacific.

-Hawdawg

EDIT: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7964700#post7964700

Anyone want to lease me an island in the North Pacific for a Naval Base? I need one more base.

Thanks,

Hawdawg

RomeW: Okay. As far as the rest they are a-okay.

Would I also be able to get a readout of my total area?

Would I also be able to get a readout of my total area?


Adygea Republic: 2,934.38
Altai Republic: 35,753.06
American Samoa: 76.83
Antarctica (part): 182,294.18
Arizona (north): 55,845.60
Arkansas: 53,178.62
Astrakhan Oblast : 17,027.11
Bulgaria: 42,822.59
Cook Islands: 92.66
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Ingushetia Republic: 1,544.41
Italy: 116,305.60
Jarvis Island: 1.74
Jordan: 35,637.23
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: 4,826.28
Kalmykia Republic: 29,382.37
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: 5,444.04
Kermadec Islands: 1.43
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Malta: 122.01
Mexico (Coahuila Province): 58,521.89
Mexico (Durango Province): 47,560.45
Mexico (Nayarit Province): 10,416.65
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Micronesia: 271.04
Midway Islands: 2.39
Nevada (south): 16,585.02
New Mexico (southwest): 12,324.00
Niger: 489,191.40
North Ossetia-Alania Republic: 3,088.82
Nunavut: 593,344.39
Samoa: 1,136.69
Solomon Islands: 10,984.61
Southwest Corridor (US): 3,593.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Tuva Republic: 25,243.36
Vanuatu: 4,710.45
Total: 3,044,696.81

Thanks. Hmnnn...what's 6,000 square miles that I can claim? *looks up Pacific*

Thanks. Hmnnn...what's 6,000 square miles that I can claim? *looks up Pacific*

Found it:

I'd like the Eastern half of New Britain Island.

Found it:

I'd like the Eastern half of New Britain Island.

ooc: where's that?

ooc: where's that?

OOC: Right off the coast of Papua New Guinea. I noticed that Papua New Guinea was unclaimed so I decided to pick up a province (East New Britain, where the captial of New Britain- Raupul, which I'm hoping to make as the capital of my Pacific Empire- is located.

So question. If Binthor does not reply within like one and a half weeks and he's still been on NS at that time and he has not made a single reply to any of my posts for the invasion of Cuba, what happens?

I say if he's on for over three weeks (Because it'll be that time in about 1 1/2 weeks),p osts on other threads, but doesn't bother to reply to my invasion, I should get thye land I was invading.

This gives ample time to respond in some way, even if it's just an explanation of why he hasn't been able to post, and prevents any ignoring of attacks through time elapsed. At least this is what I think. Does this seem fair? I'll bump the thread a few more times and send another TG, but it seems like Binthor might not be doing anything for a while about my invasion.

OOC: The last time Binthor made a post was on January 13, and the last time he logged on was two days ago. Plus he's a member of the Roman Confederacy so you'll have to face a lot of strong nations.

Fool. I've already invaded. Like a week and a half ago. It was meticuolosly planned, executed, and should be successful. Plus, there's one slight problem with the Roman Confederacy. You're in the Mediterranean. I'm in the Caribbean. Ergo, an ocean and a half seperating us. Plus I just revamped my navy with lots and lots of ships. But if you want to come take me on, fine. So pretty much bring it on. I'm ready to take Cuba no matter the cost. Although wouldn't he have to request help for you to be able to give it to him, so if he doesn't request it, no help?

Oh, and do remember the fact that a hurricane's about to sweep through the area. I don't have to worry about supply lines quite as much. You do. :)

(In case you didn't guess, the "fool" was a literary device and should not be taken as an indicator of your mental capacities, my view of you, or my view of your mental capacities. I reserve the right to clarify any further. I reserve the right to continue to use appropriate speech devices when necessary. I reserve the right to write crap like this if I feel like it.)

Fool. I've already invaded. Like a week and a half ago. It was meticuolosly planned, executed, and should be successful. Plus, there's one slight problem with the Roman Confederacy. You're in the Mediterranean. I'm in the Caribbean. Ergo, an ocean and a half seperating us. Plus I just revamped my navy with lots and lots of ships. But if you want to come take me on, fine. So pretty much bring it on. I'm ready to take Cuba no matter the cost. Although wouldn't he have to request help for you to be able to give it to him, so if he doesn't request it, no help?

Oh, and do remember the fact that a hurricane's about to sweep through the area. I don't have to worry about supply lines quite as much. You do. :)

(In case you didn't guess, the "fool" was a literary device and should not be taken as an indicator of your mental capacities, my view of you, or my view of your mental capacities. I reserve the right to clarify any further. I reserve the right to continue to use appropriate speech devices when necessary. I reserve the right to write crap like this if I feel like it.)


Uh...

RomeW Controls alot of Southern U.S.

Also, in this modern day-and-age, I could send an Army from India and still kick your arse(theoretically).

Eh, should I take part in this? I do control Florida after all...I don't want this guy knocking on my door going "HI COLODIA! *sock*"

Samtonia. Where is the post, I'd like to get involved.

RomeW: Claim added. 5,300 square miles of it.

Any attack against Samtonia will result in the mobilization of our military and operations would be launched against the attacking nations. If requested.

Eh, should I take part in this? I do control Florida after all...I don't want this guy knocking on my door going "HI COLODIA! *sock*"

Ah, but see, the thing is, I won't be. Go see my thread "Samtonia announces Caribbean Empire." I want the Caribbean, plain and simple. Becuase I want to have the Caribbean. Because.......errr.....there be PIRATES there. And cigars. PIRATES and CIGARS. And Cuba has them both!

TLS, I suggest you keep it "theoretically", due to the fact my entire navy is located in that one, tiny area known as the Caribbean. In short, I'd kick you in the arse, as long as I wasn't being gang-invaded by a few dozen nations. And no, that is not theoretically. :)

One question. Southwest US would involve the.....west, right? Because he's still not too close. A few land areas seperating him from me, right? Am I wrong?

Layartab, it's the thread on page 1 of this thread, entitled "Cruise Ship Catastrophe, see the Mangled Hulls{Att. Binthor}"

I can go dig up the link. Do remember that this invasion is in its very first minutes, so there won't be anything of any other nation's response for a while longer. So I need Binthor's reply.

Any attack launched against Layarteb will result in full military retaliation from North Germania.

But what if he launches it against me? Do I have to sit there and twiddle my thumbs for fear of your involvement or can i defend myself?

Or is this entire thing going to become WW1 all over again, with alliances getting ready to bash one another?

Joy. I may have just started WW3.

We're also watching out for Binthor.

Feel free to defend yourself, but the Reichswehr is always looking for a fight. And we've always supported Layarteb; always will.

Okay I posted.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385331

Any action against...anyone but Samtonia and Binthor would result in a massive Colodian kick ass counter attack.

OOC:

Teh ninjas: First of all, Samtonia is attacking Binthor. As a Binthorian ally (which you are too, since you are a member of the Roman Confederacy), it is my duty to help him out when he's attacked. It's the Confederacy credo- an attack on one is an attack on all.

Samtonia: I have control of Texas and Louisiana, so I have access to the Gulf of Mexico. Plus I have an air force, with lots of super-quick planes (the HyperSoar...after I read about it I want to use it). So I'm not worried about logistics.

This is going to be good...Island Hoping Layarteb-Style

hehe

Samtonia, let me be quite clear. Any attack on any member of the Roman Confederation will be considered an attack on Cotland, and responded to accordingly!

ooc: Gotta go to class now :( be back later..

Any attack on a Confederation Member will result in the Hawdawg Navy being released from its chain. The following ships are ready to engage in this matter.

Naval Forces

Carrier Battle Groups consist of the following ships:

(1) Nimitz Class Carrier- equipped with 71 FA-18 Hornet’s and 14 F-14D Tomcat's
(1) Toryo Class Battleship
(4) Oyoda Class Battle Cruisers
(3) Spruance Class Destroyers
(2) Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
(3) Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigates
(2) Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers
(8) AEO-6 Fast Combat Support Ship
(8) T-AE 26 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ship
(5) T-AO 187 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship

Current Carrier Battle Groups:
Carrier Battle Group Fletcher
Carrier Battle Group Marx
Carrier Battle Group Stinger
Carrier Battle Group Zebra


Battle Strike Groups consist of the following ships:

(2) Illeana Vassili-Class Carrier- equipped with 100 FA-18 Hornet’s or F-35 JSF fighters and 14 F-14D Tomcat's
(2) Toryo Class Battleships
(4) Yabari Class Battle Cruisers
(2) Oyoda Class Battle Cruisers
(4) SSN-688 Los Angeles Class Submarines
(6) Seawolf Class Submarines
(10) Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
(8) Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigates
(6) Arleigh Burke AEIGS Destroyer’s
(8) AEO-6 Fast Combat Support Ship
(8) T-AE 26 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ship
(5) T-AO 187 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship

Current Battle Strike Groups:

Battle Strike Group Amfed
Battle Strike Group Nina
Battle Strike Group Tifton
Battle Strike Group Stonwall


Invasion Strike Groups consist of the following ships:

(1) Illenas Vassili-Class Carrier- equipped with 100 FA-18 Hornets and 14 F-14 Tomcat's
(4) Yabari Class Battle Cruisers
(2) Oyoda Class Battle Cruisers
(2) Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
(3) Spruance Class Destroyers
(2) Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigates
(25) LHD WASP Class Amphibious Assault Ships
(10) Tarawa Class Assault Ships
(10) LSD-49 Harper’s Ferry Class Amphibious Assault Ships
(45) LCAC
(30) AAVP7A1 Assault Amphibian Vehicles for Personnel
(10) AEO-6 Fast Combat Support Ship
(10) T-AE 26 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ship
(10) T-AO 187 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship

Current Invasion Strike Groups:

Invasion Strike Group Concord
Invasion Strike Group Delta
Invasion Strike Group Femur
Invasion Strike Group Geehaw


You have been warned Samtonia.

Have a nice day.

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Damn that's a lot of firepower.

LOL Cotland I thought I had a 10:00a class today. Turns out my first is at 11:00a so I have an hour to kill before I too have to go to class.

Do you mean 1.2 trillion? I thought that was what we agreed on. I ain't gonna sell oman for a paltry sum of 1.2 billion.
thats what i meant. hopefully i didnt put trillion somewhere else, sorry

Just FYI I put this over in Aust's OOC: Stop it with the earths OK! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390090) Thread.

:: sigh ::

Every nation who belongs to NS automatically belongs to the NS universe. This includes the giant Earth where everyone is, with multiple continents, etc. It also includes the space nations who are future tech some 2 light years away and such. Earth N is just a game, within a game, quoth a mod. I see it as such.

Consider Earth N a country club. It's an exclusive little club where those who are part of interact with each other. Instead of playing golf, we obliterate each other and trade and this and that. However, you still belong to the outside world (NS Universe).

Having Earth N is maganable. NS Earth is like 30,000 miles from North America to Europe. That's nearly impossible to RP on a modern tech realistic level. In Earth N, the distances are as they would be in RL. It makes it easier. Also who wants to be bludgeoned by 40 nations when you and a neighbor don't agree on a border issue. It also limits the playing field and makes it a lot easier to RP in. However, just because one nation belongs to Earth N, that doesn't mean they don't belong to the NS Universe.

Aust, you are not part of Earth II but you could still attack me via NS Universe. And guess what, it'd be legit. People who hide behind their Earth N(s) holdings and require everyone to be part of that Earth to RP with them are just wankers.

And yes Earth II was originally created so that people who missed out on Earth I could get a claim. One of the original rules was that no nation who was part of Earth I could be part of Earth II.

When we restarted Earth II there was only Earth I, Earth II, and Earth V. About a week or two after we restarted Earth II I saw an Earth IV, 2 Earth VIs, an Earth VIII, and an Earth VII. At that point I said, this is ridiculous and I compiled the first list of offenders who were all corrected. Just the other day when I saw the third "Yet Another Earth" inside of 10 hours I decided to do some checking and walla.

Nobody can complain that this time around they didn't know because it's been in the first post since late November that if you are part of Earth II you are NOT part of another Earth.

Guess what, too bad, life's unfair, file a grievance!!!

The Commonwealth of Cotland has decided to prepare for an eventual Article 7 situation declared by Binthor, thus demanding that all forces available be drawn into the fight. We are merely following the treaty, and hope the other nations involved in the Roman Confederacy will do the same.

Just thought I'd post this thread:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390422

Germania annexes East Belarus

Guys, just posted in the Cuba thread. Need I remind you that THIS IS THREE MINUTES INTO THE INVASION. Therefore, none of your responses are merited as you don't know what is going on. Kindly save your posts somewhere, delete them, and re-post them at a more appropriate time.

This is explained a bit more in-depth within the thread.

Oh, and question. Can allies not in E2 come help me? Because I know all of two or three people pretty well in E2, but I'm in a few alliances outside. Seems a bit mean to gang-rape me with everything you guys have at this time and no help to me.

Incidentally, I ask anyone at all:
1. Allied to me
2. Kind to me in some way
3. Caring about lts of nations ganging up on other nations
4. Willing to work for money, technology, land, or guns

to come help me out when the time is right. Please. I'd rather not die too horribly. And my fleet, which you'll probably wish to know about.

Ships of the Line
4 Doujin Mk.II Refit Superdreadnoughts
8 Calypso-class Dreadnaughts
16 Freedom-Class Trimaran Pocket Super-Dreadnaught
12 Vanguard-class heavy strike ship
16 Capital-class Trimaran nuclear powered guided missile battleship (BBGN)
50 Resolute-class nuclear powered battleships (BBGN)
50 Sea-class guided missile battlecruisers (BC)

Carriers
5 Casterbridge-class Trimaran supercruiser (CBN)
16 Nanticoke-class heavy carrier (CVAN)
32 Forrest-class fleet carriers (CVN)
20 McVie-class light carriers (CVL)
15 Nelson-class light carrier (CVL)
12 Swiftsure-class Trimaran light carrier

Small Ships of the Line
100 Praeton-class heavy missile cruisers (CAGN)
150 Shield Bearer-class missile cruisers (CG)
100 Randolph-class heavy cruiser (CA)
50 Truxtun-class battlecruiser (BC)
50 Alliance-class super cruiser (CB)


Escort Ships
200 Wixted-class frigates (FF)
200 Hastings-class strike frigate
200 Ithaca-class light cruiser (CL)
300 Seminole-class corvettes (FL)
250 Evermore-class destroyers (DDN)

Submarines
250 Skipjack-class nuclear powered attack submarines (SSN)
80 Stalwart-class nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN)
160 Insurgent-class special operations submarines
50 Julianus-class SSGN
200 Bolash-class SSK

Misc. Vessels
400 Piranha-class fast missile boats
200 Ossipee-class special operations boats (50 RIBs/50 CRRCs included)
80 Lake-class mine clearance vessels

Note that this is not everything, just the stuff I've typed up so far. There's a whole lot more coming up at you. And tiny nations? Your navies are....how do we say it......quite large? I've seen some laughably huge nacvies by this time. Do remember, the larger the navy, the smaller the airforce and army.

This is all for now.

*rewords*

If, for some reason, some guy by the name of Samtonia decides to spread farther than the Carribean by means of war, then we will declare war on Samtonia.

You know, just in case something starts up. We wouldn't know if he even invaded Cuba yet. Then again, we own Florida....eh....we don't pay too much attention to the pitiful cries of the Navy anyway....

*President munches on some chips*

Samtonia stated:

Note that this is not everything, just the stuff I've typed up so far. There's a whole lot more coming up at you. And tiny nations? Your navies are....how do we say it......quite large? I've seen some laughably huge nacvies by this time. Do remember, the larger the navy, the smaller the airforce and army.

I hope you are not making fun of the navy I have. I am not a number wanker by any means and I have purchased legitimately everything in my arsenal. I have a sufficient population to support a large miltary force and I would like to point out to my larger NS Neighbor China in RL has a large population and doesn't have near the naval presence the United States has. Second, its not the bark in the dog but the bite.

It appears the driver of this car has turned down a dark street lets hope someone can get it turned around before it runs into a ditch.

Samtonia said:
THIS IS THREE MINUTES INTO THE INVASION. Therefore, none of your responses are merited as you don't know what is going on. Kindly save your posts somewhere, delete them, and re-post them at a more appropriate time.

If you brought the naval presence you listed Satellites, Radar Stations and Early Warning Systems worldwide would be alerted to a force this size moving anywhere on the map. Therefore, people would definitely be "in the know" about something big fixing to happen. This kind of naval fleet would draw prying eyes it would be foolish not to.

-Hawdawg

Samtonia stated:



I hope you are not making fun of the navy I have. I am not a number wanker by any means and I have purchased legitimately everything in my arsenal. I have a sufficient population to support a large miltary force and I would like to point out to my larger NS Neighbor China in RL has a large population and doesn't have near the naval presence the United States has. Second, its not the bark in the dog but the bite.

It appears the driver of this car has turned down a dark street lets hope someone can get it turned around before it runs into a ditch.

One other thing to note if you brought the naval presence you listed Satellites, Radar Stations and Early Warning Systems worldwide would be alerted to a force this size moving anywhere on the map. This kind of naval fleet would draw prying eyes it would be foolish not to.

-Hawdawg
No, not you. It's a generalization. Must I put disclaimers on all my posts?! (Rhetorical question, don't answer)

Point two. RL has no effect on NS. But it doesn't seem like that was a point, so moving on.

Point three. The Caribbean is my land. That's all. My entire nation and therefore, my entire military, aiorforce, and navy, are all on the Caribbean. So they didn't have to move. They've been floating there for....oh, for ever, at least since I've been on Earth II. So no satellite pictures would show much abnormal. Except a task force sailing past Cuba. And a task force is pretty tiny.

So nope, nothing out of the ordinary. And thus, no way of knowing an attack is going down.

Point taken Samtonia. No offense but large nations tend to give small nations a hard time about military size. I have spent many hours constructing and setting up my military structure to be a legitimate as possible. I have read probably 100+ posts and as many books as I can find on the subject. Everything done in NS is an ongoing project, building a military and developing it in NS is part of why I RP.

I will not post in the RP anything until war is declared as per your rules for the RP, but be warned when war is declared the Confederacy will become involved.

-Hawdawg

And get CRUSHED! MUWAHAHA...HA...ha......errr, right.

Points taken vice-versa. I was a samll nation once, I know what it's like. And again, no, I was not referring to you personally.

This is E2. Unless said nations are in E2 then they can't really fight in E2.

I'm really digging the organization of everything. It's all much more together now. It'll make it alot easier for me to catch up on everything that's happened during my five month hiatus.

I'm really digging the organization of everything. It's all much more together now. It'll make it alot easier for me to catch up on everything that's happened during my five month hiatus.

Thanks.

Uh....

I'ma gonna hafta back Binthor on this. Seeing how he's a fellow Confederacy member.

Now where the hell is my remote for the T.V.?...

Kelonian States is on the verge of dying. In two days he will cease to exist.

If he does not log in in that time, could I lay claim to his territories, or if that is too much, just Turkmenistan.

Kelonian States is on the verge of dying. In two days he will cease to exist.

If he does not log in in that time, could I lay claim to his territories, or if that is too much, just Turkmenistan.

If you get them in time when he gets the DEAT it'll fit.

RPs updated.

I'm starting that weather thread if anyone objects just let me know in the thread and we can postpone it to your schedules...

new rp-Gambian Secession (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7985281#post7985281)

Hey Layarteb, please transfer my claim of Singapore to my puppet, Swordmasters of Ginaz. Thanks.

Hi, probably abit late but can I take Tajikistan? I think its the only nation that hasn't been snapped up yet :)

Very impressed by the activity.

Feel free to voice your opinions.

Cotland: Commonwealth or Kingdom? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390987)

It is with regret that I must report that The Island Of Rose is gone. I invited him into Earth II, and now it's disappointing that he's gone.

Anyway, as a result of this, I'm withdrawing from 20,000 square miles in the south of my Antarctica claim (reducing the claim to 162,000 square miles) and I'll reclaim Sardinia and complete my claim of New Britain.

(If I can't do that I'll give up Tuva instead to fit in my new claims).

Weather RP (Hurricane, Nor'Easter, etc.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390814

It is with regret that I must report that The Island Of Rose is gone. I invited him into Earth II, and now it's disappointing that he's gone.

Anyway, as a result of this, I'm withdrawing from 20,000 square miles in the south of my Antarctica claim (reducing the claim to 162,000 square miles) and I'll reclaim Sardinia and complete my claim of New Britain.

(If I can't do that I'll give up Tuva instead to fit in my new claims).

Ummm....he's not gone. He's on a vacation at this point in time. Announced it on the NATO boards. He'll be back, just not here right now.

Ummm....he's not gone. He's on a vacation at this point in time. Announced it on the NATO boards. He'll be back, just not here right now.

His nation is DEATED. I know because I checked.

Maybe he'll revive it once he gets back (I hope...)

EDIT: For Layarteb: if I can't have Sardinia I still want to pull out of 9,000 square miles in Antarctica so I can have the rest of New Britain.

I should also mention that I'll be away for the weekend, so I will not be able to reply to any RP's.

Ummm....he's not gone. He's on a vacation at this point in time. Announced it on the NATO boards. He'll be back, just not here right now.

Unfortunately I cannot hold his land and it'll have to be given away. Perhaps if he comes back he can work something out with someone else. The same will eventually happen to Casana and a few others if they have not logged in.

I'll update everything here in a few hours.

Oh, and where did the link to my invasion of Cuba go? As stated in the thread, I wished this to reamin an E2 thread and therefore informed any of my allies outside of E2 that help was appreciated, but not possible in this case. So why was the thread removed?

Fair warning and notification. Recheck the first post, I did some "editing."

Oh, and where did the link to my invasion of Cuba go? As stated in the thread, I wished this to reamin an E2 thread and therefore informed any of my allies outside of E2 that help was appreciated, but not possible in this case. So why was the thread removed?

Twas removed before that happened. I do suggest you start a new thread so that people can rejoin. That OOC clutter isn't good.

Just letting you all know, The Island of Rose is back in business

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391274

Just letting you all know, The Island of Rose is back in business

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391274

WAIT!

Do his claims still count?

WAIT!

Do his claims still count?

I think so... Layarteb hasn't removed him from the claims list..

And the Red Tide Rises (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8004543#post8004543)(its a continuation of "A Clash of Imperial Interests". I.E., it takes place 3 months later.

If you get them in time when he gets the DEAT it'll fit.

Kelonian states has just died.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8007285#post8007285

Uhh...

Can I claim those Islands next to RomeW's? (I Think it's Palau...)

WinTrees: Your added. Welcome to E2.

Elephantum: RP added.

Five Civilized Nations: Surely.

Cotland: Added your poll.

RomeW: Indeed because I agreed to give you Sardinia and did not update I will still honor that. I reduced your Antarctica to 162k square miles and finished off New Britain for you.

Concerning the Island of Rose. I agreed to give his claims to RomeW after he was deleted and much in the way that things have been done here that shall be upheld. If RomeW wants to give TIOR Sardinia back then I'll gladly readd him to the list.

Samtonia: Do you want me to readd the original thread with the OOC banter or a new one?

The Parthians: Added RP.

The Lightning Star: Added RP. Palau added.

Recent Deletions: Casana°, Kelonian States°, Anagonia°°, Procco°°

° = Inactivity
°° = Failure to Respond (Last Violation Post)

That brings us to the new "inactive players" rule I'm going to enforce. Anybody who doesn't RP or even post anything at all in Earth III or involving Earth III by Valentine's Day will have their claims deleted. This will free up land, while cutting down on "walk in, claim land, walk away never to look back" people taking up valuable RP "slots" and land space in Earth III.

This is going on over at Earth III. What do you feel about something like that here? Colodia I'd really appreciate your weigh in on this. Additionally, any of you have any opinions on this I would be happy to hear them, regardless of their stance.

Breaking news: Cotland becomes Empire (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8010277)

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/san_marino--80.jpg
The new flag of Cotland

Hail to the Emperor!

This is going on over at Earth III. What do you feel about something like that here? Colodia I'd really appreciate your weigh in on this. Additionally, any of you have any opinions on this I would be happy to hear them, regardless of their stance.
Sounds like a good idea, although I suggest extending the RP deadline for mid-March-ish. It is finals week for some of us.

Sounds like a good idea, although I suggest extending the RP deadline for mid-March-ish. It is finals week for some of us.

Indeed very understandable. I hope more participants of Earth II weigh in.

Err I wasn't going to but I'm going to claim Mexico (Yucatán Prov) in light of Casana going to 28 days of nada.

I will RP for it. Anyone want to do the resistance?

RomeW, I'ma post tonight in your thing too.

Operation Mayan Restoration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391616)

This should play vital attention to Caribbean Sea nations and Mexican nations.

This is going on over at Earth III. What do you feel about something like that here? Colodia I'd really appreciate your weigh in on this. Additionally, any of you have any opinions on this I would be happy to hear them, regardless of their stance.

I like the idea of it, but I think that if it were enforced, you may get a massive turnover of nations. What I think may be better is that instead of outright declaring that *all* have to post within a month with regards to Earth II, I think that a rule like that should only apply to people who have, say, more than 100,000 square miles claimed. Because in RL tiny nations rarely make their mark on the international stage, doing the equivalent of maybe two or three posts a year here on NS, so to expect the same of the tiny nations here would be a lot. However, for people with massive claims there should be no excuse- if you're a big player, act like one. Otherwise, step aside so the rest of us can take your spot.

I agree with RomeW. But there should be demands to the RP, so that they just don't post something like "The nation of A does not like ice cream".
Ok, ok, that was just an example. But really. There should be some deapth in the RP. An invasion, a plauge, a riot, something that will create action and tempt us others to participate.

Just my two cents.

Err I wasn't going to but I'm going to claim Mexico (Yucatán Prov) in light of Casana going to 28 days of nada.

I will RP for it. Anyone want to do the resistance?

RomeW, I'ma post tonight in your thing too.

I can RP the resistance, just let me know when the thread is up.

I agree with RomeW. But there should be demands to the RP, so that they just don't post something like "The nation of A does not like ice cream".
Ok, ok, that was just an example. But really. There should be some deapth in the RP. An invasion, a plauge, a riot, something that will create action and tempt us others to participate.

Just my two cents.

Indeed such is an option and naturally we'd make necessities that they actually participate.

Teh Ninjas, sorry I didn't see this, I already accepted RomeWs offer for resistance.

:: bump ::

next post is 1666

Layarteb, should I make a thread regarding the coronation of the new Emperor? I need input..

ooc: YAY!! I got 1666! :D

Indeed go for it...

Satan's Servent!!!

Layarteb, please note that I own all of Belarus now, since I annexed the Eastern portion.

I will be posting the Blizzard thread soon (looks like tonight) that will be affecting Montana if anyone is interested in RP'ing devistation in there country.

-Hawdawg

I will be posting the Blizzard thread soon (looks like tonight) that will be affecting Montana if anyone is interested in RP'ing devistation in there country.

-Hawdawg

Just go for it in the weather thread. When Nature Meets Man...

anyone wanna rp a battle against me, I wanna reorganize my navy and most of the ships are going to be replaced, I'd rather have them go down in a giant blaze of self destructive glory than just sit mothballed

You could help me out near Cuba, as the situation looks to be heading south pretty damn quickly. Ships will be destroyed, no doubt about it! :)

see i dont want a land invasion, just a naval battle (or two) where i lose a few dozen ships and you have like the whole roman confederacy against you, someone would try to invade......hold on, I have an idea...

see i dont want a land invasion, just a naval battle (or two) where i lose a few dozen ships and you have like the whole roman confederacy against you, someone would try to invade......hold on, I have an idea...

Elephantum:

If you're forces aid in the war against the Roman Confederacy, then I'm afriad I'm going to have to cut off Southern India from the rest of the world. If you devote ALOT of stuff to war in Cuba, then I'm going to have to Invade you and take some land.

You don't want a massive hostile on your border, do ya?

exactly, thats my problem, who can i attack/ be attacked by that wont send half the world's nations at me?

exactly, thats my problem, who can i attack/ be attacked by that wont send half the world's nations at me?

Samtonia :D

Samtonia :D

I concur. Send them against Samtonia. And IDF. You'll loose them before you can say 'salaam'.

Wow. Kudos to whoever had enough time on their hands to set this up.

Important Notice: For anyone wanting to participate in the History of Earth II you have until the end of the month to declare that you want in. Thank you.

Wow. Kudos to whoever had enough time on their hands to set this up.

Thanks. But it's not just one person. A lot of help goes to those actors who are key in helping Earth II, those actors who are active in Earth II, and the best for last, Colodia, afterall this is his idea (revitalization).

Thanks. But it's not just one person. A lot of help goes to those actors who are key in helping Earth II, those actors who are active in Earth II, and the best for last, Colodia, afterall this is his idea (revitalization).
I just had the idea and the suggestions here and there for the rules. You did everything else, which itself is an amazing job.

I did not see them claimed, so forgive me if I am mistaken.. may I claim Tajikistan and Dijibouti... oh and I was wondering if you could add my purchase of Hidalgo County, Tx to my claims. *invisions having a small peice of every continent as a nuetral land... like the Swiss in RL*

I did not see them claimed, so forgive me if I am mistaken.. may I claim Tajikistan and Dijibouti... oh and I was wondering if you could add my purchase of Hidalgo County, Tx to my claims. *invisions having a small peice of every continent as a nuetral land... like the Swiss in RL*
If your asking for a portion of Texas, you'll have to ask RomeW for permission to lay claim on his land. He'll have to give it to you, most likely it won't be free at all. This is because, as it shows on those maps on the first page, RomeW owns all of Texas.

If your asking for a portion of Texas, you'll have to ask RomeW for permission to lay claim on his land. He'll have to give it to you, most likely it won't be free at all. This is because, as it shows on those maps on the first page, RomeW owns all of Texas.

Indeed. In addition, Tajikistan is claimed by WinTrees. The other -istan's in that region are being fought over by The Parthians and TLS IIRC.

I just had the idea and the suggestions here and there for the rules. You did everything else, which itself is an amazing job.

You are too modest.

Hey, just posting to say Im still active. Just busy:)

Ahh...

I just want to let everyone know that this semester will be an involved one for me. My senior thesis is coming up and I have to write a 35 page paper on a nationalist movement and another 15 page paper on a revolution. So in essence I'm doing Chechnya in a nutshell. If anyone knows any good books or articles just spill them please....

I just want to let everyone know that this semester will be an involved one for me. My senior thesis is coming up and I have to write a 35 page paper on a nationalist movement and another 15 page paper on a revolution. So in essence I'm doing Chechnya in a nutshell. If anyone knows any good books or articles just spill them please....
You OWE him!

(btw, in case you haven't looked, wikipedia is always a good spot to begin)

Can I have Sardinia back?

If your asking for a portion of Texas, you'll have to ask RomeW for permission to lay claim on his land. He'll have to give it to you, most likely it won't be free at all. This is because, as it shows on those maps on the first page, RomeW owns all of Texas.

Whoops. I forgot to mention I sold Hidalgo County to him a few weeks ago or so. I just never got around to posting it.

Can I have Sardinia back?

As of now, you can have the northern half. I'll talk to TLS about the southern half.

EDIT- Good luck, Layarteb. I personally have around 50 pages of writing to do this semester myself, so I know how it feels.

For the record, I strongly suggest against using Wikipedia as a source. It's great for casual learning but the fact that it can be edited at will by anyone shoots down its academic credibility. Just my two cents.

Well I suppose it does depend, I wouldn't bet my senior grade with wikipedia. But my Science Fair Project for 9th grade Bio Honors, no prob.

New RP for all of you. Please participate. :)

The Coronation of an Emperor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392579)

Can I have Sardinia back?

RomeW gave me the southern half(Heres the picture (http://www.freewebs.com/thelightningstar/Sardinia.PNG)). Ill give (most) of it to you under a few conditions:

1. Both parties sign a non-agression pact with the other.(Baisically: You can't attack me and I won't attack you, HOWEVER, you CAN attack the other if they attacked someone in your alliance.)

2. I keep the city of Cagiliari(re-named Hannibalia by moi on the map) and everything within five miles of the city.

3. You pay me $500,000,000(In-game money, of course).

If you don't agree to this, then you can counter-offer and if I don't like it, I'll keep my half(the half south of the Oristano-Tortoli Line). Of course, then we could still sign treaties and stuff.

All right, I guess I should stay out of the -stans then... and RomeW did post in here a while back that he sold me that county... but this thread has gotten so long that the time taken to find it would be too much just to prove it.

As of now, you can have the northern half. I'll talk to TLS about the southern half.

EDIT- Good luck, Layarteb. I personally have around 50 pages of writing to do this semester myself, so I know how it feels.

For the record, I strongly suggest against using Wikipedia as a source. It's great for casual learning but the fact that it can be edited at will by anyone shoots down its academic credibility. Just my two cents.

Wiki is good don't get me wrong but for a thesis no. Anyway I can't use internet sources anyway :).

RomeW gave me the southern half(Heres the picture (http://www.freewebs.com/thelightningstar/Sardinia.PNG)). Ill give (most) of it to you under a few conditions:

1. Both parties sign a non-agression pact with the other.(Baisically: You can't attack me and I won't attack you, HOWEVER, you CAN attack the other if they attacked someone in your alliance.)

2. I keep the city of Cagiliari(re-named Hannibalia by moi on the map) and everything within five miles of the city.

3. You pay me $500,000,000(In-game money, of course).

If you don't agree to this, then you can counter-offer and if I don't like it, I'll keep my half(the half south of the Oristano-Tortoli Line). Of course, then we could still sign treaties and stuff.

You guys should let me know when this stuff happens so I can fix up the maps.

You guys should let me know when this stuff happens so I can fix up the maps.


Heh heh heh....

oops. :D

You guys should let me know when this stuff happens so I can fix up the maps.

Well, I sent a TG to TLS, and I was going to say something until TIOR came back. Then I sent another TG asking TLS how to work out Sardinia since TIOR wants it back. So it's been complicated.

Well, I sent a TG to TLS, and I was going to say something until TIOR came back. Then I sent another TG asking TLS how to work out Sardinia since TIOR wants it back. So it's been complicated.

I gave TIOR my offer(its s few posts back).

I think it's good and fair, dont you?

And are ye gonna fix the claims, Layarteb?

Like give TIOR his half of Sardinia and give me my half?

I gave TIOR my offer(its s few posts back).

I think it's good and fair, dont you?

I think so.

And are ye gonna fix the claims, Layarteb?

Like give TIOR his half of Sardinia and give me my half?

Is everything settled? If so, all parties (RomeW, TIOR, and TLS) you have to key in that you accept as such.

Is everything settled? If so, all parties (RomeW, TIOR, and TLS) you have to key in that you accept as such.

All that's agreed is that TIOR has control of North Sardinia. Me and RomeW decided that I get south Sardinia, but I will EASILY give up my land if TIOR agrees with me.

All that's agreed is that TIOR has control of North Sardinia. Me and RomeW decided that I get south Sardinia, but I will EASILY give up my land if TIOR agrees with me.

Okay, once RomeW and TIOR keys in it's settled.

SO I guess at this moment south Sardinia would go under: "Claimed by RomeW/TIOR but administered by TLS"?

Or would it go under " Claimed by TLS but administered by RomeW/TIOR"

All that's agreed is that TIOR has control of North Sardinia. Me and RomeW decided that I get south Sardinia, but I will EASILY give up my land if TIOR agrees with me.

That's the agreement. The Island Of Rose gets North Sardinia at the moment, and, if he agrees to the terms with The Lightning Star, the South (bar Cagliari).

I'd like all of Sardinia, what about for 1 Billion Roses? Which equals to 2 Billion Dollars. 3 times of what you offered, and I can afford it too.

I'd like all of Sardinia, what about for 1 Billion Roses? Which equals to 2 Billion Dollars. 3 times of what you offered, and I can afford it too.

Yes, but I would like Cagilari.

I'll change it to this:

1. I keep Cagiliari.

2. We sign non-agression pact.

3. I pay YOU $50,000,000

Deal. And if you want to know what I'm gonna do with Sardinia, Imma turn it to a military fortress. Only one city for civvies!

Deal. And if you want to know what I'm gonna do with Sardinia, Imma turn it to a military fortress. Only one city for civvies!

Heh.

As long as you don't attempt to take Cagilari, you could turn it into a pie plantation if you wanted.

Deal. And if you want to know what I'm gonna do with Sardinia, Imma turn it to a military fortress. Only one city for civvies!

Considering that Sardinia is a mountain, that's not hard to do.

By the way, you going to join The Roman Confederacy? We'd love to have you in it.

So everything but Cagilari, on Sardinia, belongs to TIOR?

So everything but Cagilari, on Sardinia, belongs to TIOR?

Yup.

Yup.

^

Alright...settled...no complaining...anyone complains I destroy them...

Alright...settled...no complaining...anyone complains I destroy them...
You have a TG. How do I know? mmm....

*Important* For all those involved with the situation in Cuba, read this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8052612#post8052612

*Important* For all those involved with the situation in Cuba, read this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...612#post8052612

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*Important* For all those involved with the situation in Cuba, read this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8052612#post8052612

Fixed.

Excellente...

EOL Announces Doctrine of Superiority (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392875)

Colodia begins movement to control North and South Carolina, Georgia. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393073)

somebody want to be angry at my dealing with protestors (we impaled one leader because the peace protsetors killed a pregnant woman, his head is now on the palace walls, his dismembered body was returned by his family, another was found dead, apparent suicide, three shots to the head ;) ), or me bombing the living sh :eek: t out of Banjul? Please?

Guys I want to know what everyone thinks about this. It's nothing finalized yet but I am curious as to who thinks what and how. Everyone's opinion (regardless of their stance) will be welcomed.


Decree 12: Realizing that Earth II is a phenominally active Earth, it is imperative that all nation-states within this planet play a vital role. Mimicking real-life politics, one can easily see that nations, even small ones, play vital roles. In order to establish such as a coherence here it is vital that we too adopt a policy of activity. Insomuch as Earth II will be concerned, nations larger than 25,000 square miles must be active participants. One can simply look at real life situations and see that such small actors as South Korea, Taiwan, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. are all relatively tiny countries yet they play highly importance roles. Therefore, if nations possessing more than 25,000 square miles are not active inside of Earth II then they will be open for action without their consent. The concept of "Claim Land & Run Away" shall not be the staple point of Earth II. There are many nations that do not have a stake in a claim in Earth II but who very much want to and will be active if they could claim land. Therefore it is the necessary action that all nations which do not maintain a minimal level of Earth II activity be removed against their will if they do not choose to do so on their own.

I agree with that. Also if somebody was to go away for a certain time can he post here so his claims wont be taken away?

And I was gone for sometime but I am going to start RPing again.

You SURE you have the time to enforce this and check up on people? It's amazing you have done all this as is. I don't want this interfearing with your own life.

I agree with that. Also if somebody was to go away for a certain time can he post here so his claims wont be taken away?

And I was gone for sometime but I am going to start RPing again.

Naturally this isn't like being inactive in NS, this is entirely different so yes we would have to make concessions for personal problems and situations that arise. That's nothing that any of us can really control and I'm not about to penalize people because life sucks. However, I am tossing the idea of concessions for those who have shown activity and those who have blatantly shown none. Binthor has shown activity but he goes on minor absences. Baltic Karelia was active, don't know what happened to him, same for Hogsweat.

You SURE you have the time to enforce this and check up on people? It's amazing you have done all this as is. I don't want this interfearing with your own life.

I'm not sure to be honest... We have 70 something people in Earth II, that's a lot...I don't imagine it'd be something that could be done overnight except compile a list of who has done what. My aim here is that there have been many people who want to be part of Earth II but lets face it, there's nothing left to claim except some desolate hell-holes in Russia. Then you got some people who have claim over marginal pieces of land (Japan for instance) and who do nothing. It's really unfair...

A TG will be sent to you momentarily.

A TG will be sent to you momentarily.

No problem I'm sitting in waiting...

No problem I'm sitting in waiting...
It's sent.

It's sent.

As is my reply. Others of Earth II post what you think of Decree 12. It's #1726!

The Island of Rose invades Algeria (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393188)

Also, I think it's a good decree.

The Island of Rose invades Algeria (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393188)

Also, I think it's a good decree.

About time someone realized Algeria was open for grabs. Thanks for the weigh-in on the decree. Now what about the other 60 something slackers!!!


Slacker ---> :cool:
Layarteb ---> :sniper:
Equation :cool: + :sniper: = :cool: :sniper:

Decree 13
All future nations wishing to become a part of Earth II must have a population of 100 million or higher in order to qualify to claim land. Current E2 nations as of 1/28/05 at 4:14 P.M. PST that do not have a 100 million population are safe from this decree.

Just give me thoughts on this one. Consider the hardwork Layarteb must do to keep E2 up and running. Think how much it'll cut down on the workload.

Just give me thoughts on this one. Consider the hardwork Layarteb must do to keep E2 up and running. Think how much it'll cut down on the workload.

I want people to give this serious thought and weigh in with serious comments. Please...

I personally think the population bar needs to be higher than 100 million. Something closer to 300 million. Also, inactivity needs to be well defined. Bumps should not be considered active or statements like "The nation of blah decrees today national I like toast day." All these factors must be considered when drafting any decrees associated with inactivity.

I personally think the population bar needs to be higher than 100 million. Something closer to 300 million. Also, inactivity needs to be well defined. Bumps should not be considered active or statements like "The nation of blah decrees today national I like toast day." All these factors must be considered when drafting any decrees associated with inactivity.

Certainly such will be accounted for but good clarification.

Guys I want to know what everyone thinks about this. It's nothing finalized yet but I am curious as to who thinks what and how. Everyone's opinion (regardless of their stance) will be welcomed.

Decree 12: Realizing that Earth II is a phenominally active Earth, it is imperative that all nation-states within this planet play a vital role. Mimicking real-life politics, one can easily see that nations, even small ones, play vital roles. In order to establish such as a coherence here it is vital that we too adopt a policy of activity. Insomuch as Earth II will be concerned, nations larger than 25,000 square miles must be active participants. One can simply look at real life situations and see that such small actors as South Korea, Taiwan, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. are all relatively tiny countries yet they play highly importance roles. Therefore, if nations possessing more than 25,000 square miles are not active inside of Earth II then they will be open for action without their consent. The concept of "Claim Land & Run Away" shall not be the staple point of Earth II. There are many nations that do not have a stake in a claim in Earth II but who very much want to and will be active if they could claim land. Therefore it is the necessary action that all nations which do not maintain a minimal level of Earth II activity be removed against their will if they do not choose to do so on their own.

I like it, but the writing needs tightening up. This is what I think it should read:

Decree 12: Realizing that Earth II is a phenominally active Earth, it is imperative that all nation-states within this planet play a vital role. Mimicking real-life politics, one can easily see that nations, even small ones, play vital roles. In order to establish such as a coherence here it is vital that we too adopt a policy of activity. Insomuch as Earth II will be concerned, nations larger than 25,000 square miles must be active participants. One can simply look at real life situations and see that such small actors as South Korea, Taiwan, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. are all relatively tiny countries yet they play highly importance roles. Therefore, if nations possessing more than 25,000 square miles are not active inside of Earth II then their territory will be open for claiming without their consent. The concept of "Claim Land & Run Away" shall not be the staple point of Earth II. There are many nations that do not have a stake in a claim in Earth II but who very much want to and will be active if they could claim land. Therefore it is the necessary action that all nations which do not maintain a minimal level of Earth II activity be removed against their will if they do not choose to do so on their own.

You may also want to define "active"- is it one month? One year? One century? One hour? We all have different ideas about what "active" means, so it's best that you define it so that we know what our limitations are.

(NOTE: If you want my opinion, set it to 28 days like on NS, because that's easier to keep track of and because people on NS already have a sense of that time frame).

I like it, but the writing needs tightening up. This is what I think it should read:



You may also want to define "active"- is it one month? One year? One century? One hour? We all have different ideas about what "active" means, so it's best that you define it so that we know what our limitations are.

(NOTE: If you want my opinion, set it to 28 days like on NS, because that's easier to keep track of and because people on NS already have a sense of that time frame).

28 days is for membership after that then you are deleted. This is for people who come, claim land, and run away and never do a damn thing.

[OOC- 14 days. Two weeks. Unless, of course, someone gives a good reason for their absence or is nice and gives pre-notice.]

This is highly complicated indeed...

i definelty agree with the inactivity, but about population, i think you should let a tiny nation join if they claim something small enough (ie some little tiny pacific island) as it doesn't make a lot of sense to have 200 million people crammed into an island thats 18 square feet

Perhaps changing the population matrix to say that anyone under 100 million people cannot claim more than 25,000 square miles?

that would work, I think

the buffer seems too big for that, but aside from that its good

Right now under 500,000 square miles is for anyone under 500m people...

somebody want to be angry at my dealing with protestors (we impaled one leader because the peace protsetors killed a pregnant woman, his head is now on the palace walls, his dismembered body was returned by his family, another was found dead, apparent suicide, three shots to the head ;) ), or me bombing the living sh :eek: t out of Banjul? Please?

You REALLY want someone to destroy your navy don't you? Well, since I don't believe we have any interaction between our nations, I'll more than gladly destroy your navy for you. Just make an ill-advised assault on one of my ports and I'll return the favour.

You REALLY want someone to destroy your navy don't you? Well, since I don't believe we have any interaction between our nations, I'll more than gladly destroy your navy for you. Just make an ill-advised assault on one of my ports and I'll return the favour.

:: insert comment on the superiority of MY navy ::

i definelty agree with the inactivity, but about population, i think you should let a tiny nation join if they claim something small enough (ie some little tiny pacific island) as it doesn't make a lot of sense to have 200 million people crammed into an island thats 18 square feet

I think that, with regards to population, we should amend it that we adopt our territories' populations for our nation as opposed to using the NS figures, because there's no way we can fit over 100 billion people into a planet and still have all our nations be viable.

Thoughts?