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I can be afforded one area of blissful ignorance, methinks.

You guys make my head hurt. I'll update tomorrow.

Join the club. We have a lot of nations ready for that sort of thing. Haven't seen much activity there lately though..

is there a spacial alliance? if no, im gonna start one. Lay, can you put one on your forums? Well, heres my IC for the day.

IC: Random TV announcer guy1 (rtag1): Well, here we are folks, sunny botswanna, yessss sir. the malaria sure is strong today. {cough cough} What your witnissing here is the first launch of Duke Barol's Space Mission. We are atempting to send a team of astronauts to the moon. When there, they will set up the first Spacial Monitoring Station of the Dominion. From that point, rumor has it, the Duke will move on to huge weapon systems, and other realy realy painfull stuff, in space. And for todays special guest, we have a very important person, AGENT 001!!!!!!!
...applause...
ooc:its ok, you can clap. clap i say. CLAP GOD DAM IT@!$&
IC:001: Thank you...[glares at audience]
rtag1:your welcome i think... well, we brought you here today to ask you some questions about the space station, such as, how will it help the people.
001: it wont.
rtag1:i see... well, ummmm, thanks for comming, (shoves 001 off the stage)
well ready for the count down.
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WE HAVE LIFTOFF!!! YAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!


rtag1:well there you have it folks, the beginning of a new age, the end of an old one, the end of an old tv announcers carreer. Good by folks. Catch ya' on the flip side.

::the screen goes black, then lights up again with spirialing colors::
RTAG1 has never existed, your favorite announcer has always been RTAG2...

ooc:well, there you go. lay, can you make a forum for the spacial aliance? if so, cool.

The Duke.

RPs have been added.

Duke, I'm not sure I understand that request of yours.

RPs have been added.

Duke, I'm not sure I understand that request of yours.
and understandably so. in your forums, like where the rc forum is, can you make a forum for an alliance of nations who are now beginning there space conquests.

and understandably so. in your forums, like where the rc forum is, can you make a forum for an alliance of nations who are now beginning there space conquests.

Is this a valid alliance? But either way that board over there is going to undergo serious refinishing just prior to this World War so.

Is this a valid alliance? But either way that board over there is going to undergo serious refinishing just prior to this World War so.
heres my reasoning. many nations such as yours, have developed space programs, yet, many dont. my feeling is, it shouldnt be a monopoly of the cosmos. what the alliance would do is defend other members in space from other spacial attacks, we would share technology and man power, we would promote science of the cosmose. i am also sure that liebermonk would be more than happy to join. of course other nations like yours can join, its just htat we will have to cap the membership at some point and i dont see what you can gain from joining.

heres my reasoning. many nations such as yours, have developed space programs, yet, many dont. my feeling is, it shouldnt be a monopoly of the cosmos. what the alliance would do is defend other members in space from other spacial attacks, we would share technology and man power, we would promote science of the cosmose. i am also sure that liebermonk would be more than happy to join. of course other nations like yours can join, its just htat we will have to cap the membership at some point and i dont see what you can gain from joining.

Alright well your best bet is to start a thread like the others and such and then submit the thread and I'll work on the forum thing when I redo them.

I don't think you guys understand that is supposed to be a strictly modern tech Earth. I am 100% against claims in space or implausible weapons platforms. Keep it on Earth, boys.

I don't think you guys understand that is supposed to be a strictly modern tech Earth. I am 100% against claims in space or implausible weapons platforms. Keep it on Earth, boys.

Indeed. Marimaia, what do you think?

I don't think you guys understand that is supposed to be a strictly modern tech Earth. I am 100% against claims in space or implausible weapons platforms. Keep it on Earth, boys.


Weapons platforms are possible, and the U.S. has already practically claimed the Moon.

And if we stay strictly strictly modern tech, this Earth will be t3h sux0rz. We need innovation. I think PMT is good.

I think most countries are already on PMT anyhoo.

Weapons platforms are possible, and the U.S. has already practically claimed the Moon.

And if we stay strictly strictly modern tech, this Earth will be t3h sux0rz. We need innovation. I think PMT is good.

I think most countries are already on PMT anyhoo.

MT extends out to 2008. Sure nobody is contesting space travel, space exploration. Sure the US claimed the moon :) but there isn't a base there or anything. Sure we have satellites in orbit of other planets. All of that is more than possible. Hell we're even building the ISS. I think what has some of the members curious are the fighters in space, large stations, etc.

Hell I won't doubt that the US and USSR have placed weapons platforms in orbit of Earth either.

by the way, private companys currently are allowd to do space exploration, as are countrys. a long time ago, someone named regan(i think) wanted to do a missile defence platform in space, it was turned down because the soviets didnt want us to be invoulnerable from there missiles. so space is real, very real. we have had satalites in orbit with ability to destroy other satalites for a long time. so far, as far as i know, weve only used them on our selves.

MT extends out to 2008. Sure nobody is contesting space travel, space exploration. Sure the US claimed the moon :) but there isn't a base there or anything. Sure we have satellites in orbit of other planets. All of that is more than possible. Hell we're even building the ISS. I think what has some of the members curious are the fighters in space, large stations, etc.

Hell I won't doubt that the US and USSR have placed weapons platforms in orbit of Earth either.

PMT extends to 2020(I believe).

PMT is so much more interesting than MT. There's no creativity in MT! PMT, on the other hand, gives you a bit more freedom(without you making t3h uber-n00ks and all that FT stuff).

You gotta look to da future!

President Ronald Reagan is who you're thinking of and the program you're talking about was called the Strategic Defense Initiative. People called it Star Wars. And it was never built because of the tremendous price.

President Ronald Reagan is who you're thinking of and the program you're talking about was called the Strategic Defense Initiative. People called it Star Wars. And it was never built because of the tremendous price.

But alot of nations on EII(myself included) are richer than the U.S.

So we can afford it ;).

I have no problems with a missile defense net, this is entirely within reason. My problems are with manned bases on other planets and enormous weapons platforms. As long as we keep it within the realm of possibility I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do.

Gn: Thank you for correcting me, i was close though.
Lay: here you go.


Interstellar Alliance Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8549486#post8549486)

I have no problems with a missile defense net, this is entirely within reason. My problems are with manned bases on other planets and enormous weapons platforms. As long as we keep it within the realm of possibility I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do.

It is most agreeable that you say this. PMT TLS does go out to 2020. And to say there is no creativity in MT is highly wrong. I myself have come up with some VERY creative things in MT, albeit nothing extends past 2008, except for a few things, none of which apply to E2 (LGM-175 for instance). The main thing is that to the realm of a large space station such as that of the ISS or a little bigger is possible in E2 is correct, it is because we are all richer than the US, if you have a frightening economy that is. However the scope of technology that applies would push 2008 technology to be well within the realm of possible in 2005.

I saw three ships come sailing in…(E2, liberation of Cuba)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8549595#post8549595

Nice little thread to add. So yeah.

claim & conquer, I like the idea.

It is most agreeable that you say this. PMT TLS does go out to 2020. And to say there is no creativity in MT is highly wrong. I myself have come up with some VERY creative things in MT, albeit nothing extends past 2008, except for a few things, none of which apply to E2 (LGM-175 for instance). The main thing is that to the realm of a large space station such as that of the ISS or a little bigger is possible in E2 is correct, it is because we are all richer than the US, if you have a frightening economy that is. However the scope of technology that applies would push 2008 technology to be well within the realm of possible in 2005.

With MT, everything has to be made with technology that already exists. That isn't very creative, if you ask me.

we had the space program already, but it was moved to inactive. I think a new one is repetitive, just bring back the old one


As for the PMT, i think a little bit, in space and stuff, is ok. I do no have weapons systems like say Star Wars (the nuke deterrent or the movies) just a nuke for venus and a self destruction nuke. My station is modular, and we add on bits and pieces, currently it has a crew of 12

As for Reagan, some say Star Wars was crazy, others say it scared the Soviets, and even the threat of having it was a deterrent, i dont think it would have worked if they did build it

Star Wars scared the Soviets. If the US built Star Wars it would nullify the Soviet Nuclear threat and color the US the dominant force in the conflict.

Of course, that's a discussion for a different thread.

I'm in favor of a strictly MT Earth II, but I may be in the extreme minority there.

I really don't want to make a thread to tell you all this, as it would be abysmally short and just spam up the forum. So....

I'm building more drilling stations and refineries for natural gas and petroleum in my Caribbean territories. And I am cutting exports of natural gas due to increased use as a result of having to begin to rebuild parts of Cuba's infrastructure. So yeah.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408401
A Furthering Resolve...

TLS: To a degree. It's also a challenge to see how well you can make your stuff while staying within the realm of MT.

I would rather have a cap of 2010, but that is just me.

How would my nation go about joining Earth II?






- Emperor Adam Valchiev of
The Holy Empire of the Byzantine Church

Am I correct in thinking that Essenia and Shillonia fall under Decree 12? If so, I'd be happy to take their meager lands off their inactive hands. I understand that I must also RP the claiming and taking over of these territories. This will be little problem, I assure you. And, looking at my pop (Just hit the big 3!), I believe that I am entitled to a goodly chunk of land, especially seeing as I claimed the land that I do have for my puppet instead of my main nation.

Their lands are as follows: Malawi, Rwanda, and Nepal

Danke.

Am I correct in thinking that Essenia and Shillonia fall under Decree 12? If so, I'd be happy to take their meager lands off their inactive hands. I understand that I must also RP the claiming and taking over of these territories. This will be little problem, I assure you. And, looking at my pop (Just hit the big 3!), I believe that I am entitled to a goodly chunk of land, especially seeing as I claimed the land that I do have for my puppet instead of my main nation.

Their lands are as follows: Malawi, Rwanda, and Nepal

Danke.

Can I have Nepal?


Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssse?

I'll give j00 some land in Russia.

By all accounts, Sri Lanka looks available. I'd like to claim it.

By all accounts, Sri Lanka looks available. I'd like to claim it.

It's mine.

Look at the damned maps!

That's for all of ye! All you leeches are looking to take my territory!

It isn't going to happen!

It's mine.

Look at the damned maps!

That's for all of ye! All you leeches are looking to take my territory!

It isn't going to happen!

*snatches Carthage while TLS wasn't looking* ;)

OOC:

Concerning space programs and space weaponry, North Germania already has had a few moon explorations and landed some people to explore and take pictures, etc.

Of course, we don't have any extravagant moon colonies or any of that business.

However, we have developed quite effective and extensive satellite weaponry platforms. They're pretty large things which house roughly fifteen people each, and are refueled and resupplied on a consistent basis.

The soldiers working the platforms serve for six months each and then take leave for two months.

The weapons are limited in the sense that they can only fire six missiles each, and can only strike targets on Earth. They're also quite expensive to maintain, and the salaries of the soldiers are very high. But given Germania's economic power, and the amount of revenue generated from various resources sold, military aid to other nations, sales of weaponry, sales of various technologies, etc. we're able to keep them up and running.

And if any of you have a problem with this, too bad. It's well within bounds of MT so if you have any complaints, send them to the big man, Layarteb. I don't want to hear any whining from any of you.

As well, this is entirely OOC, so none of you know anything of this. :)

- Tomas K.

Indeed. Marimaia, what do you think?

To be honest, I'm not exactly enthralled with the idea of TIOR's rather extensive space combat ability; to maintain what he's claiming he'd be spending a hell of a lot of the national budget, never mind the fact that he's basically said 'you attack me, you get neutronic warheads from space'.

I'm also slightly concerned about TLS's 'ultra-weapon over the Northern Hemisphere'. You might as well just declare those two nations off-limits to everyone because any tension could lead to orbital bombardment. Plus we apparently can't take out that capability because they have space fighters.

I'm all for innovation and advancement, but let's keep it within reason. Satellites, no problem, they're clearly modern-tech, as are research space stations. If you're going to pull anything like the above, let's see you RP the research and construction.

Reclaimnig Hudson Bay (thread) is complete, it was really just a notice of siezure in the form of a short RP.

Has anyone tried to take Far Tortuga's land in Mexico? I'm about two seconds away from invading it.

From what I see he still controls the land I have a fleet in the Pacific already, so I'm going to post an attack thread sometime today.

Marmaria, i completely agree with you, my station around venus is primarily reasearch, it only has 2 nukes (1 as a fail-safe in case it is attacked or something, to keep it out of other people's hands, the other so that we can test the effects of a nuclear detonation on another planet), nothing that could touch another spaceship, unless they were too close to the detonation. It is big, but the crew is only 12 right now, it will expand to 20 next year

ATTENTION ALL RC MEMBERS

Please check the RC forum on Layertebs forums

We have an important issue to resolve involving aid sent to members. TKT, this involves you, as well as everyone in Kenya, and those who want to stay neutral in the upcoming war

To be honest, I'm not exactly enthralled with the idea of TIOR's rather extensive space combat ability; to maintain what he's claiming he'd be spending a hell of a lot of the national budget, never mind the fact that he's basically said 'you attack me, you get neutronic warheads from space'.

I'm also slightly concerned about TLS's 'ultra-weapon over the Northern Hemisphere'. You might as well just declare those two nations off-limits to everyone because any tension could lead to orbital bombardment. Plus we apparently can't take out that capability because they have space fighters.

I'm all for innovation and advancement, but let's keep it within reason. Satellites, no problem, they're clearly modern-tech, as are research space stations. If you're going to pull anything like the above, let's see you RP the research and construction.

It ain't done yet!

It's under construction, and the only way I can build it is if I steal the information that I need from Cotland. But first I'ma gonna fight him.

Que Uber!

ATTENTION ALL RC MEMBERS

Please check the RC forum on Layertebs forums

We have an important issue to resolve involving aid sent to members. TKT, this involves you, as well as everyone in Kenya, and those who want to stay neutral in the upcoming war

*Reiterates* This is a matter of Confederacy unity, so it is of utmost importance.

who has bhutan? i cant see anyone who has it on a map or claims it? Il claim it otherwise. also niue looks available :)

who has bhutan? i cant see anyone who has it on a map or claims it? Il claim it otherwise. also niue looks available :)

IT'S MINE, DAMNIT!

IT'S MINE, DAMNIT!

Someone is having anger issues... ;)

Someone is having anger issues... ;)


*cry* Why does everyone want to take my land?!? They never go after anyone else! So far, I've had Sri Lanka claimed once, Palau claimed once, Indias Island territories clamed once, and Bhutan claimedtwice.

Leave my land alone!

To be honest, I'm not exactly enthralled with the idea of TIOR's rather extensive space combat ability; to maintain what he's claiming he'd be spending a hell of a lot of the national budget, never mind the fact that he's basically said 'you attack me, you get neutronic warheads from space'.

(snip)

I'm all for innovation and advancement, but let's keep it within reason. Satellites, no problem, they're clearly modern-tech, as are research space stations. If you're going to pull anything like the above, let's see you RP the research and construction.

I have an entire thread dedicated to it. So shh.

Can I have Nepal?


Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssse?

I'll give j00 some land in Russia.

Yeah, that works nicely. See, I was planning on finding some IC reason to declare war and just come in and take that Russia territory, but this saves us both a lot of awkwardness and trouble. :P

I'll settle for an amount of your Russia land equal to the size of Nepal. More than a fair trade. Also, have the land be connecting to my own, if you can.

Yeah, that works nicely. See, I was planning on finding some IC reason to declare war and just come in and take that Russia territory, but this saves us both a lot of awkwardness and trouble. :P

I'll settle for an amount of your Russia land equal to the size of Nepal. More than a fair trade. Also, have the land be connecting to my own, if you can.

Uhhhhhh....


You choose the land. Honestly. I couldn't care less ab00t my Russia land.

I'm not going to give it all away, but I trade it for territory.

:confused: sorry lightning star. i dont want a diplomatic incident!!!. my colonial territories are minute no even really knows they are there! so not many want to claim mine!! muhahahahaha. oh by the way layerteb can you add leningrad oblast on the land area stats. when you can. cheers dude. :)

Id like to lay to claim to the sandwich islands? (georgia) anyones? :)

:headbang: damn im running out of obscure places to claim or any other place for the matter :headbang:

I was wondering if I could join Earth II

no worries. jus gotta register. layaerteb tells you how to do it on paragraph 67989056438 of the Earth 2 thread. :p lol nah seriously just read it and sign it. its all i did.

zeeeland officially makes a claim on the island of Niue

does anyone have claims to the Basque provinces in spain

If no I claim them

do a ctrl+f on the first page for spain and you'll find Gintonpar owns it. go to the maps and you'll see it as well. go to the spreadsheet and you will see it again

check the maps dude.

Uhhhhhh....


You choose the land. Honestly. I couldn't care less ab00t my Russia land.

I'm not going to give it all away, but I trade it for territory.


Right. I'll take your part of Krasnoyarsk Krai and Khantia-Mansia. Nepal is yours for these. For the rest of your territory, I'd be willing to offer 1-2 trillion Schlangenauges (my currency), which equal to about 1.84 to the USD. A good deal for you, I think.

Right. I'll take your part of Krasnoyarsk Krai and Khantia-Mansia. Nepal is yours for these. For the rest of your territory, I'd be willing to offer 1-2 trillion Schlangenauges (my currency), which equal to about 1.84 to the USD. A good deal for you, I think.

I only trade for land, alliances, etc. Money is so..fleeting.

(Besides, that Russian land is my barganing chip. I need it to get areas such as SE Spain, Sardinia and Corsica, the Belaeric Islands, and part of Libya).

seeing as chechyna counted as a region . what about transistria in eastern moldova? can that be claimed? that place is so mine if it can be.

who currently owns the other sections of Mexico?

If its unclaimed, I'm laying stake to them.

Duke Barol: I added the alliance.

Samtonia: Cuba RP added.

The Byzantine Church: Read the very first post. It details everything you need to do to join Earth II.

The Order of Reptiles: Yes Essenia & Shillonia are Decree 12 and yes, in order to get their land, you MUST RP.

Sicuro Alta: TLS said it man. Look at the maps & the claims!

Marimaia: Well said. I think that your definition should be the main one in retrospect to space stuff in E2 and modern tech.

Zeeland: Leningrad Oblast was added to your claims & the spreadsheet & the map a long time ago. Clear your IE cache man. By the way, the Sandwich Islands refers to the name given by Captain James Cook to Hawaii on his discovery of the islands on January 18, 1778. See Here! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich_Islands) Nieu added. It is sort of autonomous from New Zealand, though it is a territory and I didn't include it with the land area of New Zealand when I did that. Why not just claim all of Moldovia? The person who owns it is Decree 12. All that means is that you have to do an RP to claim it.

Basque Spain: As I told Byzantine Church, read the first post of this topic. Elephantum says it right though. Read the CLAIMS!

BLARGistania: I own the Yucatán Province. Aside from that, Mexico is all claimed except Far Tortuga is Decree 12 meaning his land is up for grabs through RP.

got it, i'm beginning conquest of Far Tortuga tomorrow, its late now.

Layarteb, who legally owns the Channel Islands in the English Channel: Kriegorgrad or North Germania? I'm not sure is ownership is in the terms of proximity or actual Earth circumstances.

seeing as chechyna counted as a region . what about transistria in eastern moldova? can that be claimed? that place is so mine if it can be.
Whoever has Moldova has that region. You could attempt an invasion though.....

Layarteb, who legally owns the Channel Islands in the English Channel: Kriegorgrad or North Germania? I'm not sure is ownership is in the terms of proximity or actual Earth circumstances.

I am no expert, but I would have thought Kriegorgrad.

I have an entire thread dedicated to it. So shh.

Please provide a linky.

Layarteb, who legally owns the Channel Islands in the English Channel: Kriegorgrad or North Germania? I'm not sure is ownership is in the terms of proximity or actual Earth circumstances.

Kriegorgrad.

Please provide a linky.

It's that A Grid is A Grid is A Block of Swiss Cheese RP on the RP post. It's second down from the top.

Elephantis land in Sicily is done, and animal farm died, so they can be taken off the list

got it, i'm beginning conquest of Far Tortuga tomorrow, its late now.
I was going to claim it but you can have it. Last thing I want is another 5 month RP and me losing 100,000+ soldiers. If you want I have a fleet off shore which can lend a hand to the Zapatistas.

do a ctrl+f on the first page for spain and you'll find Gintonpar owns it. go to the maps and you'll see it as well. go to the spreadsheet and you will see it again

yes but have they made a specific claim to the Basque provinces

yes but have they made a specific claim to the Basque provinces

What part of they claimed all of Spain doesn't tick?

I was going to claim it but you can have it. Last thing I want is another 5 month RP and me losing 100,000+ soldiers. If you want I have a fleet off shore which can lend a hand to the Zapatistas.
Sure, that would be very helpful.

The other thing I need to do is write up a formal treaty of alliance between the Zapatistas and Tanuians, I'll post a thread when I get there and TG it to you.

yes but have they made a specific claim to the Basque provinces

See if Gintonpar (who owns Spain) and North Germania (who owns France) would be willing to sell Basqueland to you. Considering that the Basques hold the Romans (i.e., my nation here) up highly, I'd be willing to help.

See if Gintonpar (who owns Spain) and North Germania (who owns France) would be willing to sell Basqueland to you. Considering that the Basques hold the Romans (i.e., my nation here) up highly, I'd be willing to help.
gintonpar almost definetely wont sell, i couldnt get ceuta, and thats tiny

gintonpar almost definetely wont sell, i couldnt get ceuta, and thats tiny

Well, Gintonpar DID sell me Sanibel Island, so it may be possible for me to get the Basques for Basque Spain.

Also, again: anyone out there want want Niger? I've lowered the asking price to US$3 trillion.

Rome: Is IDF or GreenManbry in the Roman Confederacy?

Also, again: anyone out there want want Niger? I've lowered the asking price to US$3 trillion.

I might be interested, depends once I reach 1.9 billion.

Rome: Is IDF or GreenManbry in the Roman Confederacy?

Nope.

UM how do i put my threads on earth2? also how big is niger in sq miles roughly. if it is under 500,000. il be willing to deal?

Ii buy Niger. would you like it in twenty dollar bills or fifties? lol :p seriously though the nation of zeeeland will allocate three trillion dollars to your nation to purchase this region.

Most of The Neuvo Rican antarctic territory is for sale. The price is £500 Bill. All but the very tip of the peninsular is for sale.

Duke Barol: I added the alliance.



i swear i must be blind. i cant find it :(

Most of The Neuvo Rican antarctic territory is for sale. The price is £500 Bill. All but the very tip of the peninsular is for sale.


Celtayoshi can agree to that, for $500Billion

Not really Earth II, not really an RP, but important for the upcoming war to prevent any claims of number-wanking.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409053

Ii buy Niger. would you like it in twenty dollar bills or fifties? lol :p seriously though the nation of zeeeland will allocate three trillion dollars to your nation to purchase this region.

It's 367K sq. mi., and if you can afford it, Niger is yours. I hope you like it. :cool:

I only trade for land, alliances, etc. Money is so..fleeting.


This is a mistake, I think. Three trillion dollars from the Torian Dominion is nothing to sneeze at. But if the hard way appeals to you, so be it. I'll be getting the thread up sometime on the weekend.(Naturally, that was OOC)

As for the land that I requested in exchange for Nepal, is this acceptable?


Layarteb: About having to RP....what is it the American kids say? "No shit"? I know I must RP to obtain the land, mon ami, I was merely requesting permission to do so.

Zapatista Conquest of Far Tortuga (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409271)

New RP thread for everyone!

Celtayoshi can agree to that, for $500Billion

Sold...

Sale agreed.

Carthage-
Could I interest you in the rest of Algeria? It's very pleasent this time of year.
I can think of numerous things to ask for in return, butI figured to wait on your response, but since some of these possible trades rest on current situations, I would appreciate a fast response.

Duke Barol: Go to post 4. Scroll down to Alliances. It's there.

Cotland: RP added.

The Order of Reptiles: You don't need permission to do an RP dude. If the name is Decree 12 and you do an RP that's about all you need to do.

BLARGistania: RP added to Decree 12.

Nuevo Rica & Celtayoshi: Antarctica redone.

Carthage-
Could I interest you in the rest of Algeria? It's very pleasent this time of year.
I can think of numerous things to ask for in return, butI figured to wait on your response, but since some of these possible trades rest on current situations, I would appreciate a fast response.
Id be intersted in Algeria, whats your asking price?

Carthage-
Could I interest you in the rest of Algeria? It's very pleasent this time of year.
I can think of numerous things to ask for in return, butI figured to wait on your response, but since some of these possible trades rest on current situations, I would appreciate a fast response.

I want all of Algeria!(Except for what DB want's, of course).

I'll give you all of what's left of my Russia claims.

tkt, I'll offer money, not land
no offense TLS, i just want to expand in the Med. Sea

New threadEros and the Godess of Love (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8587550#post8587550)

read and be outraged, or congradulate me (part of pre war tensions)

Between TLS & Elephantum I see an awesome front for the war!

Between TLS & Elephantum I see an awesome front for the war!
it would have worked better before he sold the middle of india. I have no quarrel with him, i have different fish to fry

it would have worked better before he sold the middle of india. I have no quarrel with him, i have different fish to fry

:: implants intelligence group ::

"We'll see about that!"

theres a couple of choice places im looking at, none of which are Carthaginian.

(pries eyes off of a pair of Mediterranean (cant spell it) cities and islands, a certain country in the middle east, land in southeast asia, and a wee bit of Africa)

edit-ive decided who im supporting in each of the invasion schemes i know about

i wouldnt be so much of an enemy as a speedbump, theres only 9 countries smaller than me (I said before, my entire country fits in my buffer zone)
(this is according to the spreadsheet, if it isnt completely updated, let me know)
Barretta
Essenia
Far Tortuga
IDF
Liebermonk
Pantheaa
Shillonia
The WIck
Zeeland
(blue are decree 12)

Bidding War. Ah. not what I expected:
Elephantum, i would like to sell it to you, as we seem to be increasing our relations warmly of late. At the same time, I originally offered it to Carthage, so I feel stuck. But rest assured, I have a solution:

Carthage: Thanks for the offer, but Russia is a little out of my range. However, Algeria is most easily yours for the price of your half of Sicily. I know Carthago roots run deep in Lilybaeum, but Algeria is huge. I can offer more, if it is needed to sweeten the deal.

Elephantum: Since I see that you are mainly interested in expanding into the medditeranean, I can still help you. You can have my Northern Italy Provence and Dijbouti (very close to the med) for your half of sicily, and a tad bit of money. Sorry to give you the second degree, but this is relying on how Carthage and Rome responds as well, so we'll have to wait and see. Offers on the table though.

Rome: Seeing how close my Italy province is to you, I will wait for your approval to sell it to Elephantum, since you were generous enough to give it to me in the first place. Also, regarding the Vatican, do i hvae enough sovreignty for it to be listed as mine in the claims, or is it mainly a prestigious thing? (I remind you of the $40 mill.) Just not clear on the exact points of our earlier deal

i'll keep sicily, it has easy range to everything I might strike in the Med.

out of curiousity, who's the Earth II pope?

Well . . .
I struck a deal with Rome to become Pontifex Catholica for Rome, and for Vatican City.
So the Pontifex Catholica is Varus, and I was planning on announcing him as the Pope at the beginning of the war ( ties into my plans . . .) so theres that
Also, I cant quite stress how badly I want Sicily. Are you sure theres no possible way . . . you could probably get away with robbery here.

Well . . .
I struck a deal with Rome to become Pontifex Catholica for Rome, and for Vatican City.
So the Pontifex Catholica is Varus, and I was planning on announcing him as the Pope at the beginning of the war ( ties into my plans . . .) so theres that
Also, I cant quite stress how badly I want Sicily. Are you sure theres no possible way . . . you could probably get away with robbery here.
only in exchange for the other half, lol

No Sicily trade. By the beard of Zeus! :headbang:
I guess i can handle it. x-nay on that deal then. Still, Carthage, my original deal to you remains.
Also, Rome: i do hope you dont have a problem with my plans for the papaccy. if you do, we need to work them out.

The Knights Templars: Technically speaking, you're renting Vatican City from me. Your position there is more of a glorified vassal, and that's it. Under the claims it should be listed as yours though.

I'll also approve the sale of Friuli-Venezia-Giulia to Elephantum, provided that Elephantum does not install forces along the Roman-Friuli border.

The Knights Templars: Technically speaking, you're renting Vatican City from me. Your position there is more of a glorified vassal, and that's it. Under the claims it should be listed as yours though.

I'll also approve the sale of Friuli-Venezia-Giulia to Elephantum, provided that Elephantum does not install forces along the Roman-Friuli border.
its not happening, i want sicily

No Sicily trade. By the beard of Zeus! :headbang:
I guess i can handle it. x-nay on that deal then. Still, Carthage, my original deal to you remains.
Also, Rome: i do hope you dont have a problem with my plans for the papaccy. if you do, we need to work them out.

Well...

Technically speaking, he's already "the Catholic Pope", however, his official title here is not exactly like the title the RL Pope has. The RL Pope is called the "Pontifex Maximus" (it's the last Senatorial office still in use today), and under my current arrangement, the Pontifex Maximus oversees all the religions of the Empire and makes sure that they're all run efficiently and according to the principles of Roman Law (including freedom of religion). So you can't assume the RL title of "Pope" without running afoul of Roman Law, since the Empire already has someone under that title.

its not happening, i want sicily

Noted.

Bidding War. Ah. not what I expected:
Elephantum, i would like to sell it to you, as we seem to be increasing our relations warmly of late. At the same time, I originally offered it to Carthage, so I feel stuck. But rest assured, I have a solution:

Carthage: Thanks for the offer, but Russia is a little out of my range. However, Algeria is most easily yours for the price of your half of Sicily. I know Carthago roots run deep in Lilybaeum, but Algeria is huge. I can offer more, if it is needed to sweeten the deal.

Elephantum: Since I see that you are mainly interested in expanding into the medditeranean, I can still help you. You can have my Northern Italy Provence and Dijbouti (very close to the med) for your half of sicily, and a tad bit of money. Sorry to give you the second degree, but this is relying on how Carthage and Rome responds as well, so we'll have to wait and see. Offers on the table though.

Rome: Seeing how close my Italy province is to you, I will wait for your approval to sell it to Elephantum, since you were generous enough to give it to me in the first place. Also, regarding the Vatican, do i hvae enough sovreignty for it to be listed as mine in the claims, or is it mainly a prestigious thing? (I remind you of the $40 mill.) Just not clear on the exact points of our earlier deal


Uh, I kinda need Eastern Sicily(due to the fact that I am trying to re-build the Carthaginian Empire).

I need to think of what I can give you...

Rome: The Pontifex Maximus is, in my opinion, much different than the pope. You mentioned the "Catholic Pope": Wells thats exactly what the Pope is. He only is relevant to Catholics (just like the 'Pontifex Catholica", right?)
For Pope, I would only be assuming the Papal standards of Today, and wouldnt even pretend to have jurisdiction over all religions, let alone in Rome itself. But as the Pontifex Catholica, and vassal in the Vatican, and the Templars, I will have my dude take the title Pope. (Only Catholics follow the Pope, remember)

Semi IC-Catholics in Siciliy an the rest of the Sultanate would like a conclave to be held

I declare war on venus hehehe
it came true, lol

It would be difficult to hold said conclave, being as there are no Cardinals, because there is no Papacy. And i do intend to have my guy at least declare himself a Pope ( whether or not people recognize him . . . i will hope). Pretty soon, though, I want to create a thread about this. Naming the pope, the summoning of a conclave to name cardinals . . .would that fly? Again, the whole Pope thing I have somewhat planned, but I dont want to step on anyones toes.

Also, I put this on the OOC thread too, but since the hostilities have ended in Kenya and we are just pounding out the treaty now, the war is kinda over. if it was holding up the waiting period for the war, it doesnt anymore.

Rome: The Pontifex Maximus is, in my opinion, much different than the pope. You mentioned the "Catholic Pope": Wells thats exactly what the Pope is. He only is relevant to Catholics (just like the 'Pontifex Catholica", right?)
For Pope, I would only be assuming the Papal standards of Today, and wouldnt even pretend to have jurisdiction over all religions, let alone in Rome itself. But as the Pontifex Catholica, and vassal in the Vatican, and the Templars, I will have my dude take the title Pope. (Only Catholics follow the Pope, remember)

To clarify myself: In RL, the Pope's official title is "Pontifex Maximus", or "Supreme Pontiff". In practice, he's only the head of the Catholic Church, but he's still *called* the Pontifex Maximus. You just can't use that term here.

Side General Note: I will be gone for the weekend.

Aw man! I want Vatican City!

TKT I have insane plans for the E2 Catholic Church that I'd like to RP. How much for VC?

Does Hogsweat RP EII anymore?

Cuz if not, I think he should apply to some rule or another...

I have never heard of him being referred to as Ponitefix Maximus in Rl. Ever. Ponitff, yes, but thats different. And unless its some deep-seeded moral objection you have that will offend you greatly, I will declare my man the Pope. I am not negotiating about this, as the Catholic Church is seperate from the Roman empire. Your Pontifix Maximus has regency only over the Roman Empire, but all sorts of peopl. My Pope is the exact opposite, so i see no way that your objection holds water ( he is only over Catholics, but Catholics all over the world.) Declare war on me for it if you like ;)
but the church is seperate, and I think that is how it should be treated.

TIOR: I to have (insane) plans, and I dont think i cant actualy sell you the Vatican, but I will be more than willing to talk about it. You can tg me if you want, or just talk the the conclave thread i will post soon.

Does Hogsweat RP EII anymore?

Cuz if not, I think he should apply to some rule or another...
(eyes Saudi Arabia)

(eyes Saudi Arabia)

Don't even think ab00t it!

*cocks shotgun*

Actually, Elephantum, maybe we could work out an agreement... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/054a8906.png)

Tensions building rapidly, I see.

On the note of tensions, see this thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408958

I didn't ever get around to posting it in the main E2 thread, but check it out.

Alright I uncluttered the RPs and moved the complete & incomplete ones to a text file so that they are not on the list. I am putting up World War (Pre-War) threads (all these tensions and mobilizations) but remember that we still haven't decided anything yet insofaras a timeline. We have minor details to iron out. Hopefully we can do that within the next 24 hours.

Actually, Elephantum, maybe we could work out an agreement... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/054a8906.png)

Don't even think ab00t it!

*cocks shotgun*


What goes around comes around ;)

What goes around comes around ;)


*double cocks shotgun*

Hey, if you wanna piece of the pie, ask away. I just want Makkah, Medinah, and the land in-between.

/me want some of it too....

TLS, log on to AIM. We should discuss the outbreak of war......

Yeah, I do want a piece of the pie.. The Hijaz: Mecca, Medina, Tabuk, Taif, Jeddah, and Abha included.. You can take Riyadh if you wish.

Squornshelan Submarine Disaster!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409742

This is a buildup thread for the World War.

Yeah, I do want a piece of the pie.. The Hijaz: Mecca, Medina, Tabuk, Taif, Jeddah, and Abha included.. You can take Riyadh if you wish.

The Hijaz is mine!

The holy area is MINE! MINE MINE!

I called it a billion times, and I'll gladly fight you for it to my dying breath!

Arrrrrgh!

Hogsweat:

I'd trade my Russian claims for SAudi Arabia(or at least the Hijaz)

Greenmanbry: If Hogsweat falls apart or something, I'll give you my Russian land so I can take Hijaz.

The Hijaz is mine!

The holy area is MINE! MINE MINE!

I called it a billion times, and I'll gladly fight you for it to my dying breath!

Arrrrrgh!

Very well. Then prepare to fight me for it to your dying breath.

May God have mercy on your soul.

Very well. Then prepare to fight me for it to your dying breath.

May God have mercy on your soul.

You sure you don't want my Russian land?

Uh...

Let's think this over, shall we? I will let you have the provinces of Asir, Jizan, Madinah, Riyadh, Qasim, Hail, Tabuk, and Jouf. I will get Makkah and Baha, and Elephantum get's the rest.

http://www.the-saudi.net/saudi-arabia/images/map.JPG

You sure you don't want my Russian land?

I'll trade you some Afghan or African land for your Russian land

I'll trade you some Afghan or African land for your Russian land

If I have any Russian land left over from trading with Hogsweat or Greenmanbry sure.

Oh, and Greenmanbry? Hows this? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/SAud2.png

Uh...

Let's think this over, shall we? I will let you have the provinces of Asir, Jizan, Madinah, Riyadh, Qasim, Hail, Tabuk, and Jouf. I will get Makkah and Baha, and Elephantum get's the rest.

http://www.the-saudi.net/saudi-arabia/images/map.JPG


This arrangement is acceptable.

This arrangement is acceptable.

First we hafta get rid of Hogsweat...

TLS, post in this one.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8595017#post8595017

Layarteb, add it to the pre-war tension threads.

First we hafta get rid of Hogsweat...

*cough*I can help*cough*

(I would want only a small cluster of towns and a semi large city. I'm not too picky)

Tale of the Time: Ancient Secrets Found in Yucatán... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409829)

RomeW I rushed this for purposes because it will play a pivitol role in World War for me. Yes I am still fighting in the Yucatán.

Sorry there's been some problem with my nation involving the forum, and I can't post. I've reported it to the admin twice, but since nothing is getting done I had to make a puppet for RP purposes. Sorry for the confusion, but I'll put a link to my real nation's page, so people can see my actual nation's stats, which will be used for RPing.

Sorry there's been some problem with my nation involving the forum, and I can't post. I've reported it to the admin twice, but since nothing is getting done I had to make a puppet for RP purposes. Sorry for the confusion, but I'll put a link to my real nation's page, so people can see my actual nation's stats, which will be used for RPing.

OO I hope you can get that done. You change your e-mail address or something? I remember I did that once and was off the forums for 48 hours while it changed over. It was very, very, very annoying. In some cases I didn't even get the change over e-mail.

I have never heard of him being referred to as Ponitefix Maximus in Rl. Ever. Ponitff, yes, but thats different. And unless its some deep-seeded moral objection you have that will offend you greatly, I will declare my man the Pope. I am not negotiating about this, as the Catholic Church is seperate from the Roman empire. Your Pontifix Maximus has regency only over the Roman Empire, but all sorts of peopl. My Pope is the exact opposite, so i see no way that your objection holds water ( he is only over Catholics, but Catholics all over the world.) Declare war on me for it if you like ;)
but the church is seperate, and I think that is how it should be treated.

TIOR: I to have (insane) plans, and I dont think i cant actualy sell you the Vatican, but I will be more than willing to talk about it. You can tg me if you want, or just talk the the conclave thread i will post soon.

It's true- that's the Pope's real title ("Pontifex Maximus"- the "Supreme Pontiff"). However, I realize we're arguing over semantics and that I have no basis for an objection, so I retract it.

NAANP Recruitment thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409922

(Applies to North American territory holders only)

Layarteb: Pyschotika and I made a trade for Finland to be added to my Nations list. Trade was done and confirmed one week ago can you update maps please, thanks.


-Hawdawg

Layarteb: Pyschotika and I made a trade for Finland to be added to my Nations list. Trade was done and confirmed one week ago can you update maps please, thanks.


-Hawdawg

I must have missed that...will do.

I must have missed that...will do.

NP, I have been gone on a business trip and wasn't able to remind you about it this week. I think the day the deal was done was when you where nursing a hangover.

-Hawdawg

NP, I have been gone on a business trip and wasn't able to remind you about it this week. I think the day the deal was done was when you where nursing a hangover.

-Hawdawg

Hangover? Man I haven't had a drink since New Year's Eve. I must have just forgotten about it.

Haven't posted in this thread for a while now. How is everybody doing?

Re-post:

Squornshelan Submarine Disaster!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409742

This is a buildup thread for the World War.

Layarteb, could you add this to the list?

Re-post:



Layarteb, could you add this to the list?

Got it.

thanks

But seriously: Hogsweat hasn't participated in Earth II for a while. Sure, he logs on to regular NS often, but I haven't seen him on Earth II in weeks.

Does that mean his land is up for grabs? Or are you going to let him be due to the fact that he still logs on?

But seriously: Hogsweat hasn't participated in Earth II for a while. Sure, he logs on to regular NS often, but I haven't seen him on Earth II in weeks.

Does that mean his land is up for grabs? Or are you going to let him be due to the fact that he still logs on?

No it doesn't mean his land is up for grabs and he's not decree 12. That is reserved for people with 0 participation, Hogsy has had some.

No it doesn't mean his land is up for grabs and he's not decree 12. That is reserved for people with 0 participation, Hogsy has had some.

Crap.

*sigh*

Looks like I hafta do this the hard way...

So, Elephantum and Greenamnbry, are j00 guys wiling to get a slice of Saudi Arabia?

Here's the map of the Partition, BTW. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/SAud2.png)

Oh, and Teh Ninjas? If you join us, you can have the Bahah Province(so the Partition would look like This (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Saud3.png)

Here's what the divisions will be:
Carthage
Makkah Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makkah_province)
Teh Ninjas
Al Bahah Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Bahah_province)
Elephantum
Al Hudud ash Shamaliyah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hudud_ash_Shamaliyah)
Ash Sharqiyah(Eastern Province) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Sharqiyah%2C_Saudi_Arabia)
Najran Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najran_province)
Greenmanbry
Al Jawf Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jawf_province)
Al Madinah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Madinah)
Al Qasim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Qasim)
Ar Riyad Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar_Riyad_province)
'Asir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Asir)
Ha'il Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha%27il_province)
Jizan Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizan_province)
Tabuk Province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabuk_province)

Is that OK with everyone?(I'm refering to the four allies, not Hogsweat. Of course, Hogsy would say "No way, Jose!")

Yeah that'd be fine for me.

Excelent!

All we need now is input from Greenmanbry and Elephantum.

@Layatreb: Please check your TGs

hey peeps i really want moldova and barrettas decree 12. but how do i post my roleplay on earth2 so i can claim moldova??? :(

It's 367K sq. mi., and if you can afford it, Niger is yours. I hope you like it. :cool: sorry bout wait time dude. yeh il like to take it. what is the payment method???

zeeeland would like to make it official. The zeeeland government has allocated the necessary funds for the country of niger and makes a claim on that country with immediate effect. RomeW post my government when the transaction is complete. we have sent the money to you now.

Id like Riyadh, or at least part of it (like Cold War Berlin) I will give up Gambia, or TN, if your interested...

Sorry, didnt get on this weekend

Layerteb, you didnt put Eros and the Goddess of Love on the WW rps (its not what it sounds like!)

Is this WWIII, or WWI?

EDIT-Hogsy hasnt participated, aside from one post on here, in 41 days

Id like Riyadh, or at least part of it (like Cold War Berlin) I will give up Gambia, or TN, if your interested...

Sorry, didnt get on this weekend

Layerteb, you didnt put Eros and the Goddess of Love on the WW rps (its not what it sounds like!)

Is this WWIII, or WWI?

EDIT-Hogsy hasnt participated, aside from one post on here, in 41 days

This would be WWI.

Id like Riyadh, or at least part of it (like Cold War Berlin) I will give up Gambia, or TN, if your interested...

Sorry, didnt get on this weekend

Layerteb, you didnt put Eros and the Goddess of Love on the WW rps (its not what it sounds like!)

Is this WWIII, or WWI?

EDIT-Hogsy hasnt participated, aside from one post on here, in 41 days

OOps missed that and added it.

I would be interested in buying Gambia, Elephantum, if you're willing to sell it. Also I am willing to lease naval and air bases in Madagascar to better accomodate the war effort. I promise they'll be really cheap.

Put a bid on Gambia, I'll take it for just about anything

As for madagascar, not really interested in that area

TLS, want to liberate SE Asia from Hogsy while we're at it? I'll move troops from India ASAP

How's 1.2 trillion? Also the bases would only have 99 year leases, so you won't keep them forever. I just offered them so if anyone that doesn't have a nearby supply, or military base then they could use mine. But eh.

How's 1.2 trillion? Also the bases would only have 99 year leases, so you won't keep them forever. I just offered them so if anyone that doesn't have a nearby supply, or military base then they could use mine. But eh.
thats more than I expected, troops will move out as soon as you send us the money, we'd advise using a credit card, you'll get a whole freaking ton of miles.

Oh yeah, when we go in against Hogsy, TKT wants the rest of Iraq, and I want Kuwait

I still think it's kinda hypcritical that, even though Hogsy hasn't participated for 41 days, we can't take his territory.

Anyhoo, I'll think of freeing South-East Asia later. Right now, All I want is to get Saudi Arabia(At least Makkah Province)

Id like Riyadh, or at least part of it (like Cold War Berlin) I will give up Gambia, or TN, if your interested...

Sorry, didnt get on this weekend

Layerteb, you didnt put Eros and the Goddess of Love on the WW rps (its not what it sounds like!)

Is this WWIII, or WWI?

EDIT-Hogsy hasnt participated, aside from one post on here, in 41 days

Bring the Riyadh thing up with Greenmanbry. We can't afford to loose him, seeing how taking out Hogsweat will require alot of help(and he's the most powerful ally I can find.)

I really don't want anymore land, anyhoo(Unless it's in North Africa).

Remember guys, i'll trade my Russian land for:

Corsica
Sicily
SE Spain
The Belearic Islands
Malta
North East Libya

I still think it's kinda hypcritical that, even though Hogsy hasn't participated for 41 days, we can't take his territory.

Anyhoo, I'll think of freeing South-East Asia later. Right now, All I want is to get Saudi Arabia(At least Makkah Province)

Hogsy has, in the past, been a very influential member in E2. I will not declare him Decree 12 to serve your own greed & lust for land. If you want his land, fight him for it in World War.

Bring the Riyadh thing up with Greenmanbry. We can't afford to loose him, seeing how taking out Hogsweat will require alot of help(and he's the most powerful ally I can find.)

I really don't want anymore land, anyhoo(Unless it's in North Africa).

Remember guys, i'll trade my Russian land for:

Corsica
Sicily
SE Spain
The Belearic Islands
Malta
North East Libya
It'd take something better than Russia to get the rest of Sicily, I like having something within striking distance of all my possible targets on the Mediterranean. I probably wont attack from there until Saudi Arabia is taken. When did the one week peace begin?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408841&highlight=zeeeland. uh is this how you post a decree 12 thread on the main forum? :confused:

zeeeland would like to make it official. The zeeeland government has allocated the necessary funds for the country of niger and makes a claim on that country with immediate effect. RomeW post my government when the transaction is complete. we have sent the money to you now.

Well, if you want it, it's yours. Enjoy.

Hogsy has, in the past, been a very influential member in E2. I will not declare him Decree 12 to serve your own greed & lust for land. If you want his land, fight him for it in World War.

I will fight for the land(as I am planning to do), but he falls under the rules like everyone else. Just because he served EII alot doesn't mean he is exempt. The only one who should be exempt from the rules is you, and no one else. Unless Hogsy stated before hand that he wouldn't be on alot, he should come under the rules.

Certain nations have had family problems, etc, and did everything the rules said, yet you still gave their land away.

Of course, you New Yorkers don't have much of a grip on the term "fair"...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408841&highlight=zeeeland. uh is this how you post a decree 12 thread on the main forum? :confused:

You post it the same way as everything else. You just do the RP and post the URL in the main thread and it gets added.

TLS, TN, Greenmanbry, and possibly TKT (he's going to attack Iraq), we should make an allaince thread of some sort

I will fight for the land(as I am planning to do), but he falls under the rules like everyone else. Just because he served EII alot doesn't mean he is exempt. The only one who should be exempt from the rules is you, and no one else. Unless Hogsy stated before hand that he wouldn't be on alot, he should come under the rules.

Certain nations have had family problems, etc, and did everything the rules said, yet you still gave their land away.

Of course, you New Yorkers don't have much of a grip on the term "fair"...

You don't understand the concept of Decree 12 do you. And I wouldn't expect someone like yourself to. It's not to get rid of those who have done stuff in the past and those who come and go. If that were so then I'd be declaring Decree 12 on about 1/2 of the people in Earth II. It was established to remove people who claim land & never RP, who do one RP and then never come back. It's for those people. Binthor lost his land because he was inactive in a total sense. He never responded to telegrams nor did he make any efforts whatsoever. He logged into NS frequently but never posted on the forums. Hogsy does post on the forums and he does come in and around E2. So why don't you just go sit on a stick and let it come out your head.

Obviously you don't know what fair is if you are saying I should be exempt from the rules. There isn't a rule here I am exempt from...

You don't understand the concept of Decree 12 do you. And I wouldn't expect someone like yourself to. It's not to get rid of those who have done stuff in the past and those who come and go. If that were so then I'd be declaring Decree 12 on about 1/2 of the people in Earth II. It was established to remove people who claim land & never RP, who do one RP and then never come back. It's for those people. Binthor lost his land because he was inactive in a total sense. He never responded to telegrams nor did he make any efforts whatsoever. He logged into NS frequently but never posted on the forums. Hogsy does post on the forums and he does come in and around E2. So why don't you just go sit on a stick and let it come out your head.

Obviously you don't know what fair is if you are saying I should be exempt from the rules. There isn't a rule here I am exempt from...

Then why doesn't he go under "inactive"? He hasn't participated in EII in god knows how long. He never even finished the Bahrain thread. And that was over a month ago.

Oh, in response to that you aren't exempt from any rule, if you are inactive for a long time, don't respond to telegrams, etc, you can't be kicked out because you are the head, and if you are kicked out you can't run EII.

Besides, all Hogsy has to do is post on this thread. That is it. Nothing more, nothing else.

I've sent him multiple TG's, yet he doesn't respond. What does that count as? And they weren't spam or anything, but TG's that most everyone would reply too.

Then why doesn't he go under "inactive"? He hasn't participated in EII in god knows how long. He never even finished the Bahrain thread. And that was over a month ago.

Oh, in response to that you aren't exempt from any rule, if you are inactive for a long time, don't respond to telegrams, etc, you can't be kicked out because you are the head, and if you are kicked out you can't run EII.

Aside from the Bahrain thread, which I asked you guys to fill me in on (which you never did) what else has he abandoned. Also, what about Euroslavia, Nikolas the Great, should they be Decree 12 because they come and go and do not stay all the time? Binthor went and didn't come back. Hogsy hasn't reached that yet.

And obviously, if I drop off the map I would be removed and someone else would run it. That's the point of having a co-moderator, just in case!

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The True Face
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8605327#post8605327

Aside from the Bahrain thread, which I asked you guys to fill me in on (which you never did) what else has he abandoned. Also, what about Euroslavia, Nikolas the Great, should they be Decree 12 because they come and go and do not stay all the time? Binthor went and didn't come back. Hogsy hasn't reached that yet.

And obviously, if I drop off the map I would be removed and someone else would run it. That's the point of having a co-moderator, just in case!
all i knew was that he sent a crapload of planes and then stopped posting, ignored tgs asking him if the invasion was still on, and was posting on the forums at the same time. I am not well informed on Binthor, or any of the other situations you mentioned, so I will try to stay out of that part of the conflict

Goodnight all

zeeeland claims niger. RomeW has acknowledged this and sold it to me. layerteb can u make the necessary changes when you can dude. cheers :)

Aside from the Bahrain thread, which I asked you guys to fill me in on (which you never did) what else has he abandoned. Also, what about Euroslavia, Nikolas the Great, should they be Decree 12 because they come and go and do not stay all the time? Binthor went and didn't come back. Hogsy hasn't reached that yet.

And obviously, if I drop off the map I would be removed and someone else would run it. That's the point of having a co-moderator, just in case!

At least they respond to TG's, etc. All of the TG's I have sent him(and it appears Elephantum as well) are being either ignored or not read. He cut short all of the RP's he was participating in, and didn't even give a reason.

The Zeeeland empire has succeeded in her invasion of moldova (check RP) and now claims her as her own crown colony. add this when u can layerteb. cheers. :)

The Zeeeland empire has succeeded in her invasion of moldova (check RP) and now claims her as her own crown colony. add this when u can layerteb. cheers. :)

Will do.

TLS I tg'd him.

sweet :)

Will do.

TLS I tg'd him.

Ok.

If he responds, then this whole uncomfortable ordeal will be over.

blah! just checking in.

blah! just checking in.

See, now that BLARG has made this post, he is safe from further questioning if his is active or not.

It's not that hard, people! Just make a tiny little post.

Okay, first of all, Lay, TLS, relax a little bit. At the very least we don't want the mods coming here to clear out a flamewar.

Now, to throw my own two cents in:

From what I've gathered, Binthor faced an actual invasion threat and never responded. It was over a month or two ago before Layarteb decided to get rid of them here, because one RL month is more than enough time to respond to an invasion threat.

Hogsweat, on the other hand, was never invaded. As far as we can tell, Hogsweat may check out the Earth II thread, see nothing to participate in, and leave. He still participates in the International Incidents forum, so it's not like he isn't checking the forums. I understand that doesn't fully defend him (he's still got to answer for not finishing the Bahrain thread), but it's not like Binthor who was *never* on NS *at all* (he even left the game itself for about ten days- I think that's enough proof).

See, now that BLARG has made this post, he is safe from further questioning if his is active or not.

It's not that hard, people! Just make a tiny little post.

BLARG will never be D12 nor will Tanuio because of their RP in Mexico.

Okay, first of all, Lay, TLS, relax a little bit. At the very least we don't want the mods coming here to clear out a flamewar.

Now, to throw my own two cents in:

From what I've gathered, Binthor faced an actual invasion threat and never responded. It was over a month or two ago before Layarteb decided to get rid of them here, because one RL month is more than enough time to respond to an invasion threat.

Hogsweat, on the other hand, was never invaded. As far as we can tell, Hogsweat may check out the Earth II thread, see nothing to participate in, and leave. He still participates in the International Incidents forum, so it's not like he isn't checking the forums. I understand that doesn't fully defend him (he's still got to answer for not finishing the Bahrain thread), but it's not like Binthor who was *never* on NS *at all* (he even left the game itself for about ten days- I think that's enough proof).

Thanks RomeW but don't waste your time. Greed defeats logic. By the way, check your TG.

And, God as my witness, this is not about greed! This is about making way for new people to come and join Earth II! I have tried, and tried, and tried to contact Hogsweat time and time again, yet he doesn't respond.

Just because you people are big nations doesn't mean that the little guys can't be given a chance. There are many nations that hardly ever do anything, yet they control a large portion of the world. The new people can't even get it. I've had to give away large portions of my territory to new people because there isn't any space.

*sigh*

This is getting outta hand...

Of course, this post wouldn't be needed if Layarteb didn't make the acusation that I am doing this for greed.

And, God as my witness, this is not about greed! This is about making way for new people to come and join Earth II! I have tried, and tried, and tried to contact Hogsweat time and time again, yet he doesn't respond.

Just because you people are big nations doesn't mean that the little guys can't be given a chance. There are many nations that hardly ever do anything, yet they control a large portion of the world. The new people can't even get it. I've had to give away large portions of my territory to new people because there isn't any space.

*sigh*

This is getting outta hand...

Of course, this post wouldn't be needed if Layarteb didn't make the acusation that I am doing this for greed.

You haven't had to do anything. Anything you did you did of your OWN FREE WILL. I also don't see people banging down the doors looking for land.

You haven't had to do anything. Anything you did you did of your OWN FREE WILL. I also don't see people banging down the doors looking for land.

I know I did it out of my own free will. Does that sound like greed to you?

When Eephantum came, he had hardly any land. I gave him alot.

When Kroando came, there was no land. I gave him alot.

If you take away the acusation that I am doing this for greed, we can stop this silly arguement and get back to World War preparations.

I know I did it out of my own free will. Does that sound like greed to you?

When Eephantum came, he had hardly any land. I gave him alot.

When Kroando came, there was no land. I gave him alot.

If you take away the acusation that I am doing this for greed, we can stop this silly arguement and get back to World War preparations.

What is said is said.

What is said is said.

Can you apologise at least?

I'll apologise for the "New Yorkers don't understand 'fair'" comment. That was a bit rash.

There, I apologised. Now, while I can't force you to apologise, at least I did the right thing.

We're waiting for the world war before we invade right?

Also 1.2 trillion USD has been wired to Elephantum for Gambia.


Of course, you New Yorkers don't have much of a grip on the term "fair"...
Not us Long Islanders.

/me runs away from thread.

Step back, take a deep breath, pour some crown in a coke and take a drink. Then type. Works wonders for the nerves and for the frustrations of the day.

-Hawdawg

Step back, take a deep breath, pour some crown in a coke and take a drink. Then type. Works wonders for the nerves and for the frustrations of the day.

-Hawdawg

uh, I don't think TLS is the legal drinking age yet...

uh, I don't think TLS is the legal drinking age yet...

My bad, I forget the little ones are in here too!


-Hawdawg

My bad, I forget the little ones are in here too!


-Hawdawg

Though I'd happily take your advice, for the reasons you stated and because you also (1) implicated Canadian whisky and (2) implicated Coke :D .

alcoholism eh? (no comment) hey anyway i added this thread too. add this so i can get niger on my claims list. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8605825#post8605825post8605825

Can you apologise at least?

I'll apologise for the "New Yorkers don't understand 'fair'" comment. That was a bit rash.

There, I apologised. Now, while I can't force you to apologise, at least I did the right thing.

I only apologize when I was wrong. And Teh Ninjas, don't even get me started on Long Islanders...LOL I was one!

alcoholism eh? (no comment) hey anyway i added this thread too. add this so i can get niger on my claims list. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8605825#post8605825post8605825

Please remind me to add this and the Niger thing tomorrow, if I forget.

I have been monitoring this thread, TLS. Can I have your IM addies, you and Eleph.? You can send them via telegram if you want.

Cut his throat, Lay.

[That might be the vodka and the bloodlust for war talking. I dunno... CUT HIS BLOODY THROAT ANYWAY!]

Cut his throat, Lay.

[That might be the vodka and the bloodlust for war talking. I dunno... CUT HIS BLOODY THROAT ANYWAY!]
This might be something for the war.... Lay vs TLS

alright, if you're gonna fight each other, start another thread before the mods come. I do agree with TLS about having large countries that sit there and do nothing, as a Decree 12.5 or 13, perhaps. However, I will respect Layertebs descision, and will go through a rightful invasion, if that is his descision, which it seems to be.

Grenmanbry, my AIM is dph948

I'd like to claim the northern half of the European side of Russia.

Do i have to RP my claim?

I'd like to claim the northern half of the European side of Russia.

Do i have to RP my claim?
I would strongly reccommend to check what's available on the claims list on the first page. I will take very much offense against any attempts on my territory. Russia is crammed.

There are some free land in Africa, but you've got to check the first page to see what's available mate. And yes, it is a good idea to RP your claims.

Cotland claims Benin in accordance with Decree 12.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8608974

Probably due to my absence, I just realized I am still holding on to Algeria (not what I wanted.) So, unless anybody has any further offers for it (land/treaties/something interesting. No money, sorry) I'm going to give it to Carthage, depending on a tg I send him.
Also, I've kinda come off my rant regarding a Pope, but a conclave wouldnt be a bad idea. I should think i will start a thread, and of course every nation that so wishes is invited.

Actually, I just went ahead and started the thread;
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8609367#post8609367

since I figured this wouldnt be a conflict or hostilities that would interfere with the World War.
By the way, has the whole pre-waiting period thingy started yet?

WORLD WAR ANNOUNCEMENT

Everything is set. Me and Marimaia have come to a conclusion and the following will be so:

1. RomeW will be the official moderator of World War as he will be neutral and instrumental in the peace processes.

2. The week of peace & tensions will begin on Sunday, April 10th, 2005 at 0000 GMT.

3. The week will conclude on Sunday, April 17th, 2005 at 0000 GMT.

4. Following this, World War will begin at the discretion of those involved (i.e. not everyone goes to war at the same time, they can go to war on Monday or Tuesday or Friday, if they wish).

5. In doing so, during the week of peace & tensions all Decree 12 & 21-day invasions will be suspended. If you wish to have them, begin the fight once the World War begins.

6. RomeW will start the thread and maintain the central thread. With that, all nations will be required to submit their intentions (neutral or belligerant). You are NOT locked into this submission. I do ask though that people please respect the wishes of those declared neutral. Naturally, I'm not going to demand it but I just ask that you please do it. The Nazi's didn't so how can I tell you that you have to.

[SIZE=4]5. In doing so, during the week of peace & tensions all Decree 12 & 21-day invasions will be suspended. If you wish to have them, begin the fight once the World War begins.
Do you mean that we loose our decree 12 claims, or that we can't start new ones?

Do you mean that we loose our decree 12 claims, or that we can't start new ones?

No new ones.

No new ones.
Ok. I've just started my last one for a while. If anyone would like to RP the resistance I'd be very happy.

North Germania will remain initially as neutral, but highly defensive.

However, if we see something we like, or our allies require assistance, the neutrality ends.

As you've probably seen, I am going to be actively participating.

Did you see the posts a while back where Gambia changed hands, TN has it now. Does that require a thread?

As you've probably seen, I am going to be actively participating.

Did you see the posts a while back where Gambia changed hands, TN has it now. Does that require a thread?

What posts?

My nation is going to be belligerant

I only apologize when I was wrong.

Well, you are.


Oh, and I was under the impression that the peace-time was already underway.
Ah well.

BTW-has Hogsy replied to any of your TG's?

My AIM is EmperorJonI.

I wont be here the first week of war, so just assume I'm neutral until I get back, then the fun begins

war??? hmmm I declare zeeelands neutrality with immediate effect. anyways post this http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8614051#post8614051post8614051

lay, I posted on your WW forum

and to everybody

I NUKED VENUS!

see Eros and the Goddess of Love

Be angry!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408401

A Futhering Resolve is now pre-War...

Obviously, I'm belligerent, but, hey. :gundge:
Also, my portion of Algeria can now be totally transfered to TLS

Obviously, I'm belligerent, but, hey. :gundge:
Also, my portion of Algeria can now be totally transfered to TLS

I agree with this transfer of powerly stuff!

To all the new people without alot of land

I have large tracts of land that I do not need, so I am willing to give them away.

Honestly.

These include:

My Russian lands
Southern Algeria

And...uh...................................

I think that's it.

To all the new people without alot of land

I have large tracts of land that I do not need, so I am willing to give them away.

Honestly.

These include:

My Russian lands
Southern Algeria

And...uh...................................

I think that's it.

How big is Southern Algeria?

Forget it. I'm going for the rest of Far Tortuga's territory, if it's not been claimed already. Also, Layarteb, make the sale of Niger to Zeeeland official. I've also decided to make my conquest of the US finished- it hasn't been updated in a while and by now I should have been done with it- and now I am. I'll put the RP up tommorow since it's getting late.

How big is Southern Algeria?

That's for New people.

Unless you are gonna trade me half of coastal Libya for it.....

Forget it. I'm going for the rest of Far Tortuga's territory, if it's not been claimed already. Also, Layarteb, make the sale of Niger to Zeeeland official. I've also decided to make my conquest of the US finished- it hasn't been updated in a while and by now I should have been done with it- and now I am. I'll put the RP up tommorow since it's getting late.

Did someone not start a RP for that?

Did someone not start a RP for that?

Yeah but only for his non-Mexican lands. By the way, ROMEW, Niger was done yesterday.

I'm going to push again for some kind of scale for military sizes for the upcoming World War. Not a limit, but a scale on which armies are more reasonable. I'm not complaining, really, but has anybody checked the Dark Clouds of War thread? My man Yelm's navy is at least twice the operational size of the US navy, impressive due to the fact he only posses a part of Antartica, Ecuador, and British Columbia. RUSSIA had problems building two supercarriers, while my adversary, while having land possibly as harsh, has 25. Thats cool, whatever, but I think I've been in Earth II longer, and have a bit more resources, so I should be able to get a bit more (and yes, I have huge military spending. I'm the Templars). But then the sheer size of the armies we're gonna have running around is. . . mind-bending. scaling down is just more reasonable.

I dont have the strongest military I can (30 odd million people), my Army is only 2 1/4 million

I'm going to push again for some kind of scale for military sizes for the upcoming World War. Not a limit, but a scale on which armies are more reasonable. I'm not complaining, really, but has anybody checked the Dark Clouds of War thread? My man Yelm's navy is at least twice the operational size of the US navy, impressive due to the fact he only posses a part of Antartica, Ecuador, and British Columbia. RUSSIA had problems building two supercarriers, while my adversary, while having land possibly as harsh, has 25. Thats cool, whatever, but I think I've been in Earth II longer, and have a bit more resources, so I should be able to get a bit more (and yes, I have huge military spending. I'm the Templars). But then the sheer size of the armies we're gonna have running around is. . . mind-bending. scaling down is just more reasonable.


And I am again going to disagree with you.

You have to understand that quite a few of the nations here are more powerful then the United States. I, for one, could probably produce the US Navy five times over. People will commit what troops they're able. Those with smaller budgets will just have to rely on alliances more heavily then their larger counterparts. We're not scaling down our militaries.

TLS I used to own Algeria so can I have some back? XD

When I get 200 bil of course >.>

Just wondering, since Euroslavia has territory on Earth III (it says on spreadsheet) can I claim Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Croatia, Montenegro, Serbia, amd Slovenia? I can Rp reasonably well, despite my age.

Just wondering, since Euroslavia has territory on Earth III (it says on spreadsheet) can I claim Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Croatia, Montenegro, Serbia, amd Slovenia? I can Rp reasonably well, despite my age.

Euroslavia is part of a special case of people that had lands outside of Earth II when we instated the no dual Earth rule so he was allowed to stay as long as he kept it under a certain land area.

Then is there anything else I can claim? If I can claim Decree 12 nations, I'd like to claim:

Burkina Faso
Mexico (Baja California Province, Baja California Sur Province, Sonora Province)
Nepal
Rwanda
Malawi

Then is there anything else I can claim? If I can claim Decree 12 nations, I'd like to claim:

Burkina Faso
Mexico (Baja California Province, Baja California Sur Province, Sonora Province)
Nepal
Rwanda
Malawi

Look at the first post on how to do it, look at the claims, and do it. You aren't part of another Earth are you?

Given his small post count, I doubt it. Just my 2 cents....

Thanks Cotland. [/sarcasm]

Anyway, as far as I can see, there is no unclaimed land. So, what to do? (I don't belive the rules addressed it). Unless you are going to give me land (Hint, hint)...