NationStates Jolt Archive

Two Things Directed to everyone:
I am thinking about allowing all nations to ‘sponsor’ teams in the African Super League. What this would mean is that you would take control of a team or number of teams down to the smallest detail. This would allow everyone to get involved regardless of land ownership in Africa. What I need from you is feedback on this idea.
The other thing goes along with the first thing. If the first proposal works than I’d personally set up and run Leagues on all continents. If the first thing doesn’t work, and my League flops than Soccer as we know it will die until next world cup where activity will be even less. Please get involved!

Two Things Directed to everyone:
I am thinking about allowing all nations to ‘sponsor’ teams in the African Super League. What this would mean is that you would take control of a team or number of teams down to the smallest detail. This would allow everyone to get involved regardless of land ownership in Africa. What I need from you is feedback on this idea.
The other thing goes along with the first thing. If the first proposal works than I’d personally set up and run Leagues on all continents. If the first thing doesn’t work, and my League flops than Soccer as we know it will die until next world cup where activity will be even less. Please get involved!

The Empire will gladly, initially, sponsor a team. If the league takes off we'll invest in a second team.

A rough sketch of something thats coming out this weekend at the latest:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7757/untitledim5.jpg

craziest looking rectal thermometer i've ever seen.

craziest looking rectal thermometer i've ever seen.

And I bet you've seen a lot of em.

Pushka, are you going to respond to me in the Invasion of Argentina??

Pushka, are you going to respond to me in the Invasion of Argentina??

Of course, get ready to get your ass handed to you.

And I bet you've seen a lot of em.

friend of mine works for a company that makes em.

I beat BioShock! It was so fucking awesome!

Secret IC

The Empire has begun testing a new SRBM to replace the MGM-207 LCBAR. It will have nuclear, chemical, conventional, submunition, and fragmentation warheads, a quasi-ballistic trajectory, GPS guidance, and thrust-vectoring.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3247/mgm232lh6.png

Picture of rawrz!

Meh, needs to be bigger to represent authority.

Statement from the Russian Federation

The Russian Federation Ministry of Defense will be reducing the size of the military over the course of the next 7 years. With Federation armed forces now present through out the world the government believes that our nation does not need as massive a military as we currently have to project our interests through out the globe. RF will reduce and modernize every branch of our military starting with the navy under the plan approved by the both the Senate and the Duma of Russian Federation and signed by President Igor Stepanov.

-Izvestia State Media Agency

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=807

Link to new classified MGM-233 Vesta missile, which is in development.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=807

Link to new classified MGM-233 Vesta missile, which is in development.

...and the Vesta has been secretly tested...

see operation swift justice

Yo Lay can you put Invasion of Argentina back on the RPs list since its active again?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535487

Yo Lay can you put Invasion of Argentina back on the RPs list since its active again?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535487

thanks for reminding me.

Just for the record how many of you guys browsed through or read Operation Brotherhood? (It has a Russian title, top of the RPs list in this thread on first page)

I.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=807

Link to new classified MGM-233 Vesta missile, which is in development.

more secret ic

it's submarine platformed too.

OOC: I also posted this in "The Winter War" but I figured I'd do so here too. Been planning it for a while especially since Ontario is actually going to the polls in a week (and whoever becomes Consul here is who I vote for, naturally). It's basically how I'd like to see Ontario actually administered.

IC:

EMPIRE OF ONTARIO CARVED OUT OF EMPIRE OF CANADA

TORONTO (RFP)- Valerius IV Maderia announced today the creation of the Empire of Ontario by carving out the province from the rest of the Empire of Canada.

Like Canada, Ontario will be a sovereign Dominion with the Emperor of Rome being its Constitutional Monarch. However, unlike the Empire of Canada, an election will be done to select its first ever Consul, timed so because the Empire of Canada will also select its Consul via an election this year.

“We didn’t think it’d be appropriate to appoint someone when the rest of Canada is voting,” explained Valerius, “so we figured that we would let the voters of Ontario decide. Besides, when we assumed the Canadian territory, we were assuming a territory that needed to be rebuilt after the Celtayoshian collapse- this is not the case in Ontario.”

The announcement comes after months of pressure by leading Ontario politicians- particularly Toronto mayor David Miller, current Premier Dalton McGuinty and Ontario Progressive Conservative Party Leader John Tory- to create a separate Dominion for the province. Miller had hoped for a Dominion of his own in Toronto, but Valerius said it would be too small for sustainability, so Miller joined the chorus of voices for a Dominion in Ontario.

Miller will get part of his wish, however. Ontario will be divided into three provinces- Northern Ontario, with its capital at Thunder Bay, Southern Ontario with its capital at Ottawa and Province of Toronto in the city of its namesake covering the Greater Toronto Metropolitan Area- and 12 districts. The provinces and districts will have their own separate legislatures (each headed by a President), with the districts covering concerns of a regional manner such as hydro, extra-municipal law enforcement, inter-municipal transit and other inter-municipal services and networks (as well as administering provincial directives locally), with the provinces covering inter-district concerns such as provincial highways, resource management and health care and the Dominion itself- at the Capitol in Toronto- covering inter-provincial concerns such as economic and family law as well as inter-Dominion relations. The three provincial Presidents will combine with two Dominion-wide elected representatives (the top two candidates in the Consular elections) to form the Dominion Senate, with the top candidate in the Consular election being named Consul. A map of the new Dominion was provided by the Imperium and can be accessed here (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/RepublicofOntarioMap.png).

An Ontario election has been set for this fall with Tory and McGuinty the leading candidates, with the final vote to be held on October 10.

It was a clouded morning in Oslo, but that had no effect on the mood to the crowd that had gathered on the plaza outside the Royal Palace where the Royal Standard waived defiantly in the wind, showing the people of Oslo that their King was present in his Palace. There were more police officers around the Palace than normal though, and a platoon of soldiers attached to the Royal Guards Division stood outside the Palace, arranged in a line formation, forming a honor guard.

At just over 11:30 in the morning, Prime Minister Thomas Rothsky walked down to the waiting journalists and cameras that had been set up in front of the Palace in anticipation to the historical announcement that was to be delivered in a very very short time. Rothsky was dressed in his finest suit, looking as respectable as one expected someone who had an audience with the King of Cotland to be. The old man was beaming with happiness, making him look at least twenty years younger than his seventy-eight years.

The whole affair was sent live on Cottish news channels, and probably on the major international news channels as well. What Rothsky was about to tell the journalists and the hundreds of millions of viewers around the world had been a well-kept secret.

"Det er med stor glede at jeg meddeler det Cottiske folk at Hans Majestet Kongen i henhold til Grunnloven har informert Regjeringen i statsråd at den nye tronarvingen skal hete Sverre. Sverre har blitt tildelt tittelen Kronprins av Cotland av sin far, og er nummer to i den Cottiske arverekken." [It is with great joy that I have the honor to inform the Cottish people that His Majesty the King in accordance with the Constitution has informed the Cabinet that the new heir to the throne shall be named Sverre. Sverre has been awarded the title Crown Prince of Cotland by his father, and is the second in the Cottish line of succession to the throne.]

The journalists all started showering the Prime Minister with questions about the new Crown Prince, who wasn't even a week old yet.

[OOC: If anyone want to have a reporter from their country ask the Prime Minister some questions concerning the new Crown Prince, go right ahead.]

Achtung!
All African Land Owning nations create some teams for the African Super League on the offsite Forum.
Achtung!
On friday all those nations that do not have land in Africa and wish to join the Super League can create numerous teams based on African Cities that don't have teams.
Achtung!
All nations send some players over to the Super League to get drafted!

Alright I'm going to do some backing up/repairing on my boards to try to fix this whole mess of debug errors. Also, Push, I'm going to can the GSO forum on Oct 1 so if you want go in and take what you need. Also is the Tri-African Alliance still active (i.e. Brink & Hirgy should know)?

.:. Further Note .:.

Yeah that took all of 4 minutes (just had to empty one of the sql databases to fix it

ALL IS WELL!!! RESUME FORUM ACTIVITY!!!

Ah god dammit, didn't see that one, I had the pics of a shitload of missiles posted in where the ones that got deleted after my laptop was reformated now they're lost forever, balls.

Ah god dammit, didn't see that one, I had the pics of a shitload of missiles posted in where the ones that got deleted after my laptop was reformated now they're lost forever, balls.

I might be able to sift through the sql file but it's over 50mb. You'll have to give me some possible file names or something to work with to find it easier.

Are these what you were looking for?

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2999/untitled754fn0.png
http://u.univision.com/contentroot/uol/art/images/deportes/futbol/2003/09/030904af_roman_abramovich_3.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4575/13415151oa2.png
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4430/untitled23424nq7.png
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/690/2423145ae4.png

Cotland, have you ever been to Iceland? I suppose the qustion is open to anyone, just thought Cot would prob be most likely.

Are these what you were looking for?

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2999/untitled754fn0.png
http://u.univision.com/contentroot/uol/art/images/deportes/futbol/2003/09/030904af_roman_abramovich_3.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4575/13415151oa2.png
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4430/untitled23424nq7.png
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/690/2423145ae4.png

Aye, appreciate it, thanks.

Cotland, have you ever been to Iceland? I suppose the qustion is open to anyone, just thought Cot would prob be most likely.

Sadly no, not yet. If I don't get sent there for exercises and stuff like that when I join the Air Force, I'll probably go on vacation there some day. Why'd you ask?

BTW Lay, I noticed in the claims list that I'm still listed as having Oaxaca. I got rid of that place a long time ago.

It is my #1 place I'd want to go internationally. I've read a lot and seen alot about it and it looks wonderful. I'd probably go for hiking slash hitting up Reykjavik. Anyway I'm starting to save up funds and was wondering if someone could recommend something.

BTW Lay, I noticed in the claims list that I'm still listed as having Oaxaca. I got rid of that place a long time ago.

When? To Who?

It is my #1 place I'd want to go internationally. I've read a lot and seen alot about it and it looks wonderful. I'd probably go for hiking slash hitting up Reykjavik. Anyway I'm starting to save up funds and was wondering if someone could recommend something.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Iceland

^ That might be of some help...it's the best I can do since I've also never been there myself, but I'll agree it looks lovely...plus Eidur Gjudohnsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ei%C3%B0ur_Gu%C3%B0johnsen) is Icelandic so that's also a plus. :D

http://wikitravel.org/en/Iceland

^ That might be of some help...it's the best I can do since I've also never been there myself, but I'll agree it looks lovely...plus Eidur Gjudohnsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ei%C3%B0ur_Gu%C3%B0johnsen) is Icelandic so that's also a plus. :D

You can visit it in the Empire :)?

I've already sent a TG to Lay explaining my circumstances, and while I am sorry for posting as a non-EII RPing entity, I am left with little time to log out conscientiously and log back in. Anyway, this is SL, for those of you who are new. I'm probably on the D2/D13/D12 list for not having posted in quite some time, but I've reached a break in school, and I might have more time to post. That said, I'm sorry to those waiting for a response from me - it's been hectic [just finished a presentation today - and not too happy about how it went]. In any case, I'm glad to post here once again, and if anything's wanting, I'll try to get it through soon.

If I can't stay any longer, and I'm not on the D12 list [just checked and my name is in the clear], I'll do the honorable thing and leave my possessions to inheritance by newbies [who can decide how to distribute the territories]. I've got a dead Duke, and everything is set for a departure, if I should desire it. But I'm hoping that it doesn't turn to that. So a little more time - and we'll see how this goes.

I've already sent a TG to Lay explaining my circumstances, and while I am sorry for posting as a non-EII RPing entity, I am left with little time to log out conscientiously and log back in. Anyway, this is SL, for those of you who are new. I'm probably on the D2/D13/D12 list for not having posted in quite some time, but I've reached a break in school, and I might have more time to post. That said, I'm sorry to those waiting for a response from me - it's been hectic [just finished a presentation today - and not too happy about how it went]. In any case, I'm glad to post here once again, and if anything's wanting, I'll try to get it through soon.

If I can't stay any longer, and I'm not on the D12 list [just checked and my name is in the clear], I'll do the honorable thing and leave my possessions to inheritance by newbies [who can decide how to distribute the territories]. I've got a dead Duke, and everything is set for a departure, if I should desire it. But I'm hoping that it doesn't turn to that. So a little more time - and we'll see how this goes.

You are D13 at the moment. It is my hope that you come back to us FT.

Just to introduce you lot to a reoccurring character of mine:
http://www.007.info/ImagesBIG/GEVillainTrevelyan4.jpg
Major Percival Hunter of the Pineholtine Special Forces.

Yo Lay if you going to keep blocking me on AIM go check your TGs I got a valid question in where that I need answered.

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg has launched an official inquiry into the apparent conflict now raging in Argentina. We are following the events as they unfold and are monitoring both parties in this action. A public statement will soon follow.

----------------------------

From the desk of Gordon Wells, Prime Minister Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Let it be known to both combatants in Argentina, the Republic will hold both parties equally responsible if undo harm comes to citizens of our nation that might be working abroad in Argentina and specifically in Buenos Aires. We have several influental business dealings within the country and are honestly concerned for the well-being of the employees.

Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister, Holy Republic of Hawdawg


----------------


OOC:

Just wanted this denoted for when I need to refer back to it. I didn't want to clutter up your RP so I posted it here. Normal Military Protocol's are being followed to include: submarine monitoring of naval deployments, satellite imagery of the battlefield, electronic listening via standard channels and uber classified systems undisclosed to members outside of TOA are being utilized to monitor this situation. So basically I have popped the popcorn and pulled up a chair to watch your RP Pushka and Pineholt.

Response from the Russian Federation

We will issue orders to our troops to secure all the citizens of Hawdawg and ensure their safety, same goes for every human being in the region that is not an enemy of the Federation but we will pay special attention to the citizens of Hawdawg in this hopefully short conflict. If they wish it we will grant them transportation to Hawdawg, if they do not they may stay under our protection. Once Pineholt is defeated and the threat it poses is no more the Hawdawgian citizens may leave for their homeland or stay and become naturalized as the citizens of the Federation.

-RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs

"Whilst we do not currently control Buenos Aires, as we are waiting to resolve the issue diplomatically with the Russian Federation, we believe it to be part of our nation, and therefore we would hold ourselves directly responsible should any harm come to one of your citizens. Should any of your citizens need evacuating, we can arrange an emergency pick-up within 6 hours. We would advise any citizens of any nationality against travelling to Buenos Aires though, as widespread looting, and general lawlessness has taken hold, a situation that we cannot rectify until the Russian Federation stops its needless threats of war based on its needless claims of land which we see as our own. But we will take every step possible to avoid harm coming to citizens of any nation."

Pineholtine Foreign Office

It is Friday and as such the ASL is now open to anyone. You can create as many teams as you wish from any country in Africa save Me, Hirg, and Hawdawg.

Any chance I could claim the Hanish Islands and Zuqar Island? I believe this could let me launch a team in the African Super League as well?

Pine check TGs.

Anyone can 'own' teams now.

Im surprised I still have land here. I can only assume the giant white blod that use to be pantheaa is now open territory (Of which I would like to stake a quick claim unless there are objections?)

Also, we can all just say that the conflicts between Cotland and the state of Nerotika are over right? If not then I would really much like to enter some peace talks and get a treaty signed.

Official Declaration of the State of Nerotika
We hereby declare the former territories of Pantheaa as claimed territories of our state in which the people and all resources formerly owned by our ally state shall be transferred to the Nerotikan Council Government and all of its governments underneath. These claim is for all territories inside of the russian area and that formerly flew the Pantheaan flag before its collapse.

To: The Nerotikan "Government"
From: His Majesty's Council, the Realm of Cotland
Copy: The Governments of the World
Subject: RE: Official Declaration...

The Realm shall henceforth consider the newly conquered territories in the former rouge nation-state of Pantheaa to once again be the free and sovereign territories of the Realm, as they were from the arrival of the Cottish four hundred years ago and up to the disbandment of Tsjuderike fifty-nine years ago. His Majesty the King of Cotland is the sovereign ruler of the territories in question, and Cottish law shall apply in them.

If the Nerotikan "government" has a problem with the Realm returning the ancient lands of Tsjuderike to the safety and security of the Realm, they are always welcome to repeat their defeat in Kostroma. Cottish forces has been directed to defend these territories with all due vigilance from Nerotikan aggression, and we call upon the world to denounce this obvious sign of communist-socialist aggression.

We have not forgotten Sharya or Makariev, and we shall never allow such autrocities to repeat themselves. You have been duly warned.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538472

You're about two weeks too late.

Im surprised I still have land here. I can only assume the giant white blod that use to be pantheaa is now open territory (Of which I would like to stake a quick claim unless there are objections?)

Also, we can all just say that the conflicts between Cotland and the state of Nerotika are over right? If not then I would really much like to enter some peace talks and get a treaty signed.

Official Declaration of the State of Nerotika
We hereby declare the former territories of Pantheaa as claimed territories of our state in which the people and all resources formerly owned by our ally state shall be transferred to the Nerotikan Council Government and all of its governments underneath. These claim is for all territories inside of the russian area and that formerly flew the Pantheaan flag before its collapse.

Responce from the Russian Federation

A substantial amount of those lands was claimed by the Federation as we have left the GSO alliance because of the treason Panthea committed against us. You will not move into the Panthean land and you will not stand in our way, should you attempt you will have to deal with all the consequences of such a decision including an all out war with the Federation.
Those territories are all part of the historical Trail of Blood that the 14th Slavic tribe undertook on its journey to Siberia, which in the end created the nation that we are today.
In addition since leaving the alliance we have adjusted our policy and now do not look favorably upon the government systems that reduce freedom of their citizens as much as yours. Shall you attempt to enforce your declaration you will see our wrath.

-Russian Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Well Lay, no need to check TGs anymore Nero is obviously not D12 or whatever.

Response from the Russian Federation

We will issue orders to our troops to secure all the citizens of Hawdawg and ensure their safety, same goes for every human being in the region that is not an enemy of the Federation but we will pay special attention to the citizens of Hawdawg in this hopefully short conflict. If they wish it we will grant them transportation to Hawdawg, if they do not they may stay under our protection. Once Pineholt is defeated and the threat it poses is no more the Hawdawgian citizens may leave for their homeland or stay and become naturalized as the citizens of the Federation.

-RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Your diligence in this matter is greatly appreciated. Transportation out of Buenos Aires won't be necessary, we wouldn't want to burden your Military with a humanitarian mission in the middle of conflict. Chartered Jets are on standby and can be flown in from our Allied Nations close to Argentina to expedite our citizens out of the war zone. Should the situation escalate, we will with Pushkain clearances fly in and remove our citizens (approximately 768 w/work visas in Argentina) via these charter planes.

-Gordon Wells, Prime Minister Holy Republic of Hawdawg

"Whilst we do not currently control Buenos Aires, as we are waiting to resolve the issue diplomatically with the Russian Federation, we believe it to be part of our nation, and therefore we would hold ourselves directly responsible should any harm come to one of your citizens. Should any of your citizens need evacuating, we can arrange an emergency pick-up within 6 hours. We would advise any citizens of any nationality against travelling to Buenos Aires though, as widespread looting, and general lawlessness has taken hold, a situation that we cannot rectify until the Russian Federation stops its needless threats of war based on its needless claims of land which we see as our own. But we will take every step possible to avoid harm coming to citizens of any nation."

Pineholtine Foreign Office


Your concern for our citizens will be duly noted and your diligence in this matter is greatly appreciated.


-Gordon Wells, Prime Minister, Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Responce from the Russian Federation

A substantial amount of those lands was claimed by the Federation as we have left the GSO alliance because of the treason Panthea committed against us. You will not move into the Panthean land and you will not stand in our way, should you attempt you will have to deal with all the consequences of such a decision including an all out war with the Federation.
Those territories are all part of the historical Trail of Blood that the 14th Slavic tribe undertook on its journey to Siberia, which in the end created the nation that we are today.
In addition since leaving the alliance we have adjusted our policy and now do not look favorably upon the government systems that reduce freedom of their citizens as much as yours. Shall you attempt to enforce your declaration you will see our wrath.

-Russian Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs


Wow, seriously Pushka you are threatening war with a majority of the active players in Earth II. I feel left out. Before you go about killing everyone that "threatens" the current state of Russia, would it be possible for my chartered jets to retreve my citizens in Buenos Aires? I don't want any civilian casualties wrapped up in all this mess. It would be bad PR for all parties involved.


-Hawdawg

Wow, seriously Pushka you are threatening war with a majority of the active players in Earth II. I feel left out. Before you go about killing everyone that "threatens" the current state of Russia, would it be possible for my chartered jets to retreve my citizens in Buenos Aires? I don't want any civilian casualties wrapped up in all this mess. It would be bad PR for all parties involved.


-Hawdawg

I am threatening a war? Lay already started a war by taking my land from me. Jesus Christ, I don't get you TOA guys, how can you always make up a bullshit way of not seeing the true aggressor? Would you like it if someone took your land temporarily without your consent? I don't have any troops in Buenos Aires yet so I can't help you. If you got some of your citizen in Rawson then sure my troops just captured it.

I am threatening a war? Lay already started a war by taking my land from me. Jesus Christ, I don't get you TOA guys, how can you always make up a bullshit way of not seeing the true aggressor? Would you like it if someone took your land temporarily without your consent? I don't have any troops in Buenos Aires yet so I can't help you. If you got some of your citizen in Rawson then sure my troops just captured it.

I don't need your troops, I just was asking if an overflight of the disputed territory was possible to extract my citizens. But since you are raising so much hell about invasions and infringement of space I thought I would ask for overflight permission before I launched the planes. The fighter escort will station themselves outside of Argentinian airspace while the potential rescue takes place then they will shadow the airliners back to my territory. A simple stop and go pick up. I will have all the necessary help on the planes needed to load my citizens safely. If you tell me no, that's fine, didn't want a couple of SAM's tearing holes in commercial airliners. All I need is a window to work in that I won't get shot down.

-Hawdawg

Sure go ahead, I give you permission for an overflight. I'll even do you one better, I got a carrier parked near my conquests in Brazil I can provide air support for your airliners as well as destroy some enemy SAM sites.

As only the port city of Rawson is currently under Russian jurisdiction, and the only part under Russian sovereignty, I believe it would be me that grants permission for flights to Buenos Aires, which of course is granted, and full fighter escort will be provided. Should any situation threaten your citizens, Pineholtine soldiers can be air lifted in to police the area until all citizens of Hawdawg have been evacuated, after which they will withdraw, as Pineholt wishes to resolve matters diplomatically with the Russian Empire.

Sure go ahead, I give you permission for an overflight. I'll even do you one better, I got a carrier parked near my conquests in Brazil I can provide air support for your airliners as well as destroy some enemy SAM sites.

As only the port city of Rawson is currently under Russian jurisdiction, and the only part under Russian sovereignty, I believe it would be me that grants permission for flights to Buenos Aires, which of course is granted, and full fighter escort will be provided. Should any situation threaten your citizens, Pineholtine soldiers can be air lifted in to police the area until all citizens of Hawdawg have been evacuated, after which they will withdraw, as Pineholt wishes to resolve matters diplomatically with the Russian Empire.

I thank both parties for the ability to remove all Hawdawgian citizens from Buenos Aires that wish to exit the city. I will post in your other thread shortly.

-Hawdawg

As only the port city of Rawson is currently under Russian jurisdiction, and the only part under Russian sovereignty, I believe it would be me that grants permission for flights to Buenos Aires, which of course is granted, and full fighter escort will be provided. Should any situation threaten your citizens, Pineholtine soldiers can be air lifted in to police the area until all citizens of Hawdawg have been evacuated, after which they will withdraw, as Pineholt wishes to resolve matters diplomatically with the Russian Empire.

OOC: Im not an Empire Im a democratic Federation. Also with statements like that you just make the diplomatic solution more and more impossible. The fighters Im sending to help Haw will bomb your troops on the way back if you decide to land them in Buenos Aires, I shouldn't even be doing this, I should be kicking you out of the territories you already secured by now.

A diplomatic Federation that has no interest in diplomacy? I like it...just try and bomb my troops, and see what happens, your lands are spread so wide, and you have so many enemies...

I meant democratic, because democratic nations are usually interested in diplomacy...
My nation is just as if not more as advanced as yours, so any attack for you will be devastating to you I assure you, plus you have not annexed that land, not de facto or de jure, so stop saying that.

Thats democratic not diplomatic, firstly. Secondly I will not negotiate with you until you withdraw your forces out of lands that are annexed by me. Im actually trying to repair some of my old friendships but of course thats a long process and Im not going to back down to a nation like yours. Yeah, we'll bomb em and I'll see what happens, and when you'll see what happens when the 3 fleets I've dispatched reach their destination, it won't be pretty for you. If you're so committed at resolving this diplomatically, leave the areas you have secured and when we can talk and depending on the outcome of those talks will decide who keeps what.

I meant democratic, because democratic nations are usually interested in diplomacy...
My nation is just as if not more as advanced as yours, so any attack for you will be devastating to you I assure you, plus you have not annexed that land, not de facto or de jure, so stop saying that.

But i have, a claimed that land as mine thus annexing it, next step is pacification so I'll keep saying that cause well its true. I highly doubt you're more advanced but I do know that you have 25 million people for a population, and my military is much more massive then yours, sure I'll have looses, but yours will be much greater. I seriously don't understand this, why do you expect me to just give up the land that I was first to claim?

Compromises solve all. BTW possession is 9/10ths of the law. Hell I could claim to "annex" all of Central America but it doesn't mean it's my territory until I control it.

Official Announcement

The Empire of Layarteb hereby announces that the Vesta short-ranged ballistic missile, tested operationally against the former territories of Pantheaa will reach initial operating capability within one month. Shortly after, the Empire will deploy one full regiment to the Province of South Eastern Virginia and one full regiment to the Province of Ynoga. Each regiment will contain in excess of 256 missile launchers.

The Minister of Defense

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg has decided to replace the venerable LV-08 multi-purpose chassis with this beast:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Cougar_4x4_Iraq_2004.jpg


Its big its ugly but its effective. Both a 4x4 and 6x6 version will be utilized. It will be called the LT-10 Wapiti.

LT-10 Wapiti Stats:

Weight 23.59 t (52,000 lb)
Length 7.08 m (23.25 ft)
Width 2.74 m (9.0 ft)
Height 2.64 m (8.67 ft)
Crew 2+10
Armor 7.62 x 51mm NATO ball standard
All wheels and centerline mine protected
Primary armament remote weapon station (optional)
Engine Caterpillar C-7 Diesel
243 kW (330 hp)
Payload capacity 6.35 t (14,000 lb)
Transmission Allison 3500SP
Suspension 6x6 wheeled
Ground clearance 410 mm (15 in)
Operational
range 966 km (600 miles)
Speed 105 km/h (65 mph)

The Cougar rules man :).

Compromises solve all. BTW possession is 9/10ths of the law. Hell I could claim to "annex" all of Central America but it doesn't mean it's my territory until I control it.

Thats true, but the thing is I have the capabilities to easily transfer possession of those lands to me by raining fire and death on his head especially in the territories that he didn't have time to fortify properly yet.

Alright well, Cotland I ment no aggression by my words I was just making the declaration in case the territories were still open. Seeing as how you take any sign of competition as aggression toward you then peace talks will not be easy if we are ever able to enter them.

And yes, I am back and for good now. Got plenty of time to do what I need to do so concider this my return into EII.

I forgot to mention, NG will be offline for a little while he has some health issues.

NG hasn't really been RPing for the past several years, so eh...okay.

I am also claiming Paraguay, in addition to my previous claim, which I am still awaiting approval for.

I am also claiming Paraguay, in addition to my previous claim, which I am still awaiting approval for.

Well since you're not getting em I don't see what anyone has to approve, Im still waiting for your official response to my Ultimatum.

NG hasn't really been RPing for the past several years, so eh...okay.

You haven't read Splitter, have you...?

Well since you're not getting em I don't see what anyone has to approve, Im still waiting for your official response to my Ultimatum.

I was referring to my post in this thread regarding the Hanish Islands and Zuqar Island.

You haven't read Splitter, have you...?

Nope...hmm, okay maybe I was mistaken.

I am also claiming Paraguay, in addition to my previous claim, which I am still awaiting approval for.

Yes that claim for Paruguay is accepted. I'm not sure what other claims there were, perhaps I missed them along the way. However, I draw your attention to this:

Decree 16: Upon entering an RP, parties have certain land boundaries and land holdings that become subject to actions within that RP. The practice of trading away said land to avoid the outcome of an RP, to avoid a loss, to avoid destruction, etc. shall not be had any longer. Whatever land said member enters the RP with, they must maintain throughout the course of the RP and it may not be traded away without the full consent of everyone within the active RP. This includes land both in and not in contestation. Added with post #14,402.

So it would take affect following the end of the RP.


Hanish Islands and Zuqar Island you say? I'll see if I can go find them.

Any chance I could claim the Hanish Islands and Zuqar Island? I believe this could let me launch a team in the African Super League as well?

I missed that I guess. Both of those belong to Yemen and to Ottoman Khaif actually.

I'd like to know where they are too, as long as Im at war with Pine I won't be letting him expand. Unless its a member to member transfer.

Pushka, they're on Wikipedia.

Pushka, they're on Wikipedia.

The great source of all things.

Hmm, Yemen, I control a part of Yemen. But whatever, since OK has em I doubt that Pine will get em anyways and if he does as close as they are to me kicking him out wouldn't be a problem. All good.

Official Statement from the Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Early this morning a daring rescue attempt was made in Argentina by elements of the Special Service Detail along with the Royal Hawdawgian Marines. I am happy to report over 600 Hawdawgian citizens and a handful of Cottish and Layartebian Citizens were offered safe passage out of harms way. As we speak they are arriving at Houston Intercontinental Airport. Upon arrival they will be debriefed by State Department Officials and taken to an undisclosed five-star hotel for much needed rest. A passenger manifest is available online via the Hawdawgian State Department. If you had or have family members in Argentina and they are not on the passenger manifest they chose to remain in Buenos Aires. Let it be known that we will not make any return rescue missions to Buenos Aires and these citizens that refused passage are in effect on there own.


As far as the conflict between Pineholt and Russia, we are deeply concerned that the Russian's refuse to consider peace talks with Pineholt. We hope that this situation does not deteriorate any further than it has, and we pray for a peaceful solution to this delimma. We are also concerned about the burgeoning refugee crisis that looms ahead, and we are moving to shore up humanitarian supplies at our major ports of Corpus Christi, Galveston, and Brownsville for immediate shipment to the region via our Merchant Marine Fleet. We hope this move will bolster the humanitarian effort already underway by our Colleague the Empire of Layarteb. Efforts are underway to have the aide leave port within the next three days. A small contingency force will escort the vessels to the Fauklands and then to the pennisula the Empire has secured for the refugees of this conflict. We will do our part to ensure that men, women and children will not needlessly suffer from two nations bent on blowing each other up.


Signed,

Prime Minister Gordon Wells
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Message from The Russian Federation

The Federation has dispatched 10 heavy cargo ships carrying peacekeepers, food, water and other essential supplies to Tiera de Feugo to aid the refugees that were displaced by the collapse of the nation that previously ruled Argentina. The 8th Polk of the 3rd Gvardia will be performing peacekeeping duties.

I'd like to know where they are too, as long as Im at war with Pine I won't be letting him expand. Unless its a member to member transfer.

Just an observation Pushka, you sure are spreading yourself pretty thin. (You can't be everywhere to prevent him from expanding) BTW, I am glad you decided to allow Pineholt the option of member to member transfer, very gracious. In fact, I may just give him some land depending on how this Argentina thing works out.

Which doesn't mean that I won't invade it after the transfer is done. Yeah Im stretching myself thin but if thats what it takes to defeat an enemy, so be it. Although we are about to start peacetalks, he has decided to meet the ultimatum.

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I'm going to claim:

Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Sergipe)

Message from The Russian Federation

The Federation has dispatched 10 heavy cargo ships carrying peacekeepers, food, water and other essential supplies to Tiera de Feugo to aid the refugees that were displaced by the collapse of the nation that previously ruled Argentina. The 8th Polk of the 3rd Gvardia will be performing peacekeeping duties.

Official Response

The Empire will be pleased with these supplies and the peacekeeping forces will be well received. To date approximately 250,000 Argentine displaced have arrived at our camps throughout the tip of Argentina.

If I were to create some sort of free economic zone out of those 2 brazil territories would it be a good idea?

Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Sergipe)

those ones I mean

Which doesn't mean that I won't invade it after the transfer is done. Yeah Im stretching myself thin but if thats what it takes to defeat an enemy, so be it. Although we are about to start peacetalks, he has decided to meet the ultimatum.

Which would be bad for your invasion parties health. Especially if I decided to maintain military complexes in those said regions.



-Hawdawg

Which would be bad for your invasion parties health. Especially if I decided to maintain military complexes in those said regions.



-Hawdawg

It depends, if I prepare well enough it might turn out that its worse for your military complexes. Hmm, this is wonderful, you and lay decided to group together behind one noob that attacked my claims because that makes you the "good guys" in some twisted sense? Now Im not getting this, why am I supposed to simply relinquish my claims? And why am I supposed to treat Pine as nothing else but an enemy? I mean thats what you're forcing on me so it must make some kind of sense in your minds, please tell me the reason.

I keep seeing compromise pop up not "relenquish" your claims. Where are you reading this or are you making it up again?

I keep seeing compromise pop up not "relenquish" your claims. Where are you reading this or are you making it up again?

Making up things and twisting words is your hobbie not mine. Compromise? What compromise? He has nothing to offer me, nothing, so what you expect me to do at these peacetalks is relinquish my claims to certain provinces of Argentina for no compensation what so ever because you think that I am so intimidated by your threats that I would actually give up land that I was the first to claim, without a fight. Yes you want me to give up my claims for nothing, its as simple as it gets, once again Im asking for a reason of why I would do that.

Making up things and twisting words is your hobbie not mine. Compromise? What compromise? He has nothing to offer me, nothing, so what you expect me to do at these peacetalks is relinquish my claims to certain provinces of Argentina for no compensation what so ever because you think that I am so intimidated by your threats that I would actually give up land that I was the first to claim, without a fight. Yes you want me to give up my claims for nothing, its as simple as it gets, once again Im asking for a reason of why I would do that.

Perhaps he does? Perhaps by proxy he does? Who knows? You need to ask to find out rather than just assume and nope none of us ever told you to give up your claims.

Aha, you just that if I retaliate against Pine we're at war, good show. Thats why I even left an option for peacetalks cause I want to see if he does but honestly we both no he doesn't and the peacetalks will most likely not prove otherwise.

Aha, you just that if I retaliate against Pine we're at war, good show. Thats why I even left an option for peacetalks cause I want to see if he does but honestly we both no he doesn't and the peacetalks will most likely not prove otherwise.

No if you go ahead with your plan to push Pine out of E2 by stampeeding over Uruguay then I will.

No if you go ahead with your plan to push Pine out of E2 by stampeeding over Uruguay then I will.

Thus limiting my retaliation. Plus the whole business of trying to provoke me at Ter el feugo (sp?), aye, you're definitely not neutral in this.

Thus limiting my retaliation. Plus the whole business of trying to provoke me at Ter el feugo (sp?), aye, you're definitely not neutral in this.

If he had tanks and stuff on the border of Siberia I would think differently. I'm neutral in the Argentina part of the conflict but not the rest of it.

Wait, what did you just say? Neutrality means not doing anything, protecting Uruguay means you're not neutral, and you're saying that you wouldn't help him if he tried to attack me in Siberia thats what you're getting at right?

Wait, what did you just say? Neutrality means not doing anything, protecting Uruguay means you're not neutral, and you're saying that you wouldn't help him if he tried to attack me in Siberia thats what you're getting at right?

It'd be rather even at that point so yeah I wouldn't.

It'd be rather even at that point so yeah I wouldn't.

How would that be even? Or are you saying that if our positions were reversed and it was me who was about to get pushed off of EII through invasion you wouldn't help me? Well thats to be expected I mean you got your double standards. Anyways, you won't admit the real reason for why you're helping Pine so why the hell am I even trying to get you to? You're too focused on thinking that your mindgames are actually complexed and challenging.

How would that be even? Or are you saying that if our positions were reversed and it was me who was about to get pushed off of EII through invasion you wouldn't help me? Well thats to be expected I mean you got your double standards. Anyways, you won't admit the real reason for why you're helping Pine so why the hell am I even trying to get you to? You're too focused on thinking that your mindgames are actually complexed and challenging.

Are you incapable of actually reading what's written or do you just have a fetish for making up what you want? If the same situation existed and his tanks were pushing against your main borders then it would be an even scenario. I wouldn't be so adamant in helping.

It would be a scenario in which he would be annihilated, no different from the one now.

For the record Pushka I could give a rat's behind if you take all of Argentina. If a war develops between you and Layarteb, I probably will not get involved. I have several reasons why not, but mostly because I believe you are easily defeatable. Especially in a one on one campaign. I wouldn't want to divulge strategy, but yes inspite of what you think you are very venerable in your current state. And quite simply Lay doesn't need my help. In a cynical sort of way I actually would like to see bloodshed, several systems have been built since our last trip into battle and I would loved to see how they perform.

Second, I don't see you and I having issues unless you decided to attack lands that I have given to another player. I usually maintain miltary facilities for about 10-15 years after a change of possession and then sign long term leases for naval facilities and or airbases with the host country. Speaking only in hypothetical situations, yes your "large attacking force" would probably eradicate the forces I still had on the ground, but you would suffer significant losses in kind. A kind of you bloody my nose I black your eye thing if you will. But that my friend would put us in a state of war, and the first thing I am going to take from you if that happens is Mexico. Know I am going to set back and observe, like I normally do, but remember your actions dictate the actions taken.

Pushka, what I have been saying, is that I'm a new player, looking to expand, and you, masquerading as "Russia" wish to claim the whole of Argentina, without putting much effort into it. However, when I wish to take it certain adjacent territories over, putting in my counter claim in the thread which you abandoned, you immediately want to invade me, and push me out of E2. And all of this while most of E2 seems to be against you (ICly) anyway! I don't see why you want to claim mass blocks of land the other side of the world, while preventing new nations from expanding in their own back yard so to speak!

It would be a scenario in which he would be annihilated, no different from the one now.

There would be a major difference. It wouldn't be lopsided as it is now it with you threatening his entire homeland and him having no angle on your own homeland. In that case, the tables would be slightly turned and I wouldn't seek the course of actions I have sought.

For the record Pushka I could give a rat's behind if you take all of Argentina. If a war develops between you and Layarteb, I probably will not get involved. I have several reasons why not, but mostly because I believe you are easily defeatable. Especially in a one on one campaign. I wouldn't want to divulge strategy, but yes inspite of what you think you are very venerable in your current state. And quite simply Lay doesn't need my help. In a cynical sort of way I actually would like to see bloodshed, several systems have been built since our last trip into battle and I would loved to see how they perform.

Oh, well, think what you will, neither am I weak nor easily defeatable you haven't ever faced me in an all out war and I have more when a few tricks up my sleeve. Lay can try to take me one on one but I highly doubt he'll be able to succeed.

Second, I don't see you and I having issues unless you decided to attack lands that I have given to another player. I usually maintain miltary facilities for about 10-15 years after a change of possession and then sign long term leases for naval facilities and or airbases with the host country. Speaking only in hypothetical situations, yes your "large attacking force" would probably eradicate the forces I still had on the ground, but you would suffer significant losses in kind. A kind of you bloody my nose I black your eye thing if you will. But that my friend would put us in a state of war, and the first thing I am going to take from you if that happens is Mexico. Know I am going to set back and observe, like I normally do, but remember your actions dictate the actions taken.

I will strike my enemy globally with your threats or without, if Pine chooses to be my enemy he will meet the consequences. You can try to take mexico but I won't just bloody your nose I'll bleed you empty, I have enough of the Self-Defense Force in Mexico to repell any invasion, but wait it gets even better, I have enough mobile SAM sites and planes with the Gvardia thats stationed where to make ensure my air superiority. Mexico Im not worried the slitest bit about I actually went ahead and planned out its defense same as that of my Siberian holdings, the only places I am truly vulnerable right now is Yemen and Brazil. TOA is really the only concern of my currently, I can defeat any of you one on one but in a global cluster fuck I don't see how I can win even though I'll give you a hell of a battle Im simply outnumbered. Thats why TOA is so evil, it imposes its will upon the world and no one can truly resist it, I try my best though so points to me for that.

There would be a major difference. It wouldn't be lopsided as it is now it with you threatening his entire homeland and him having no angle on your own homeland. In that case, the tables would be slightly turned and I wouldn't seek the course of actions I have sought.

Oh so as long as he is threatening my homeland thats fine but if its a reverse thats a big no,no. But my point wasn't even that, he threatens my homeland I destroy him where and when I still go after his homeland, thus the same situation.

Pushka, you seem to forget that you are spreading yourself all over the globe, but you are not making any friends, and there are people who would wish to destroy you all over the globe as well. Do not assume that you could just destroy me with one small task force. My nation is a nuclear nation too, and I have the capability to bring much destruction to your lands, should you try and take out my home land.

Pushka, what I have been saying, is that I'm a new player, looking to expand, and you, masquerading as "Russia" wish to claim the whole of Argentina, without putting much effort into it. However, when I wish to take it certain adjacent territories over, putting in my counter claim in the thread which you abandoned, you immediately want to invade me, and push me out of E2. And all of this while most of E2 seems to be against you (ICly) anyway! I don't see why you want to claim mass blocks of land the other side of the world, while preventing new nations from expanding in their own back yard so to speak!

If you respected the fact that I claimed that land and before invading came to me asking for negotiations this wouldn't have come to this, but instead you invaded my claims and you expect me to give em up without a fight? The whole world can be against me for all I care that doesn't mean I won't keep preserving my interests, I am the only one opposing the evil that is TOA (mostly through compromise as of late) thats is my role and that is what I do.

Oh so as long as he is threatening my homeland thats fine but if its a reverse thats a big no,no. But my point wasn't even that, he threatens my homeland I destroy him where and when I still go after his homeland, thus the same situation.

Considering you're only threatening his homeland and he isn't threatening yours then yes I support him and if it were reversed or equalled I wouldn't.

Pushka, you seem to forget that you are spreading yourself all over the globe, but you are not making any friends, and there are people who would wish to destroy you all over the globe as well. Do not assume that you could just destroy me with one small task force. My nation is a nuclear nation too, and I have the capability to bring much destruction to your lands, should you try and take out my home land.

Im not planning to destroy you with one task forces, Im actually moving in for an overkill with 3 whole fleets carrying 5 armies. I make friends with those that matter such as Cotland (as of late), you do not matter and you expect me to give up my claims for no reason what so ever why would I do that? Also everyone has nukes and whoever uses em is usually globally condemned and clusterfucked whatever the circumstances, ask Spiz.

Because you cannot just claim those lands, abandon the thread, and just assume you have control over the lands, especially not for something the size of Argentina!

I am a busy man, I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and I got other shit to do beyond that, I was going to return to that RP eventually.

Considering you're only threatening his homeland and he isn't threatening yours then yes I support him and if it were reversed or equalled I wouldn't.

Thus you're not neutral and shouldn't be holding the peacetalks.

Because you cannot just claim those lands, abandon the thread, and just assume you have control over the lands, especially not for something the size of Argentina!

I am a busy man, I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and I got other shit to do beyond that, I was going to return to that RP eventually.

Yeah you were away from that RP for over a month.

Thus you're not neutral and shouldn't be holding the peacetalks.

Except all I'm providing is a venue. The US hosted talks between Israel and the Palestininans and look how that turned out (and yes that was rather successful for some time).

Why do I get the feeling you are not interested in any peace talks?

He one time called for peace talks between TOA and him and whined because we didn't see a point in it. When we showed up he walked out.

Thus you're not neutral and shouldn't be holding the peacetalks.

Why do I get the feeling you are not interested in any peace talks?

Also everyone has nukes and whoever uses em is usually globally condemned and clusterfucked whatever the circumstances, ask Spiz.

An enemy is always at their most deadly, when pushed into a corner, with their back to the wall, facing the end.

But still, don't think for one second 3 of those armies will stop my forces.

I am a busy man, I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and I got other shit to do beyond that, I was going to return to that RP eventually.

Before last month I worked 6 days a week. If you feel your work commitments were going to stop you posting, then feel free to post that in the thread, and I would fully understand any delayed response, as a job would always come first as it is one of the most important things in your life, whether you like the job or not.

Before last month I worked 6 days a week. If you feel your work commitments were going to stop you posting, then feel free to post that in the thread, and I would fully understand any delayed response, as a job would always come first as it is one of the most important things in your life, whether you like the job or not.

I actually got more free time now since Im working 2-10 and not 4-12 (and not 10pm to 6 am about a month and a half ago), physical labor still gets me down but atleast I still got a couple of hours of my brain functioning when I get back. I can RP now.

Why do I get the feeling you are not interested in any peace talks?

Im not, not interested, Im just mildly interested. Basically I don't see a way how this can be solved without military action but I will hear your side of the story and see if where is an off-chance that where could be a peaceful compromise that actually benefits me.

Yes, I used to do quite a few different shifts, and I can fully agree with you that 2-10 is the best shift, and meant that I had a couple hours either side of the my shift where I wasn't feeling massively tired, and could do other things.

And now Haw is trying to piss me off, heh, if only where was no TOA proving people wrong would be so much easier.

I just don't see why you want to claim a very large block of land, which is so far away from Russia, and prevent me taking a small part of it before you do, especially as I am a new nation which is adjacent to Argentina.

Im giving most of it away to Cymrea after I capture it, Im not keeping it, maybe just a few ports is all I really need from that region. The thing here is, is that you challenged me and I don't see a reason to back down from a challenge.

That's the price you have to pay for your style of diplomacy.

Nah, its fine, Im sure eventually we'll have a show down and I'll have a chance to destroy him. I am going to reorganize and update my military after all the mess with you is resolved but even now I can pack a punch as you'll probably find out.

Im not, not interested, Im just mildly interested. Basically I don't see a way how this can be solved without military action but I will hear your side of the story and see if where is an off-chance that where could be a peaceful compromise that actually benefits me.
I just don't see why you want to claim a very large block of land, which is so far away from Russia, and prevent me taking a small part of it before you do, especially as I am a new nation which is adjacent to Argentina.

And now Haw is trying to piss me off, heh, if only where was no TOA proving people wrong would be so much easier.

That's the price you have to pay for your style of diplomacy.

I didn't challenge you directly, I merely saw an opportunity to take some land close to home, and took it. I think Cymrea just wanted Patagonia anyway, for his Welsh speaking community...

I claimed all of that land and you challenged me by counterclaiming it.

Im giving most of it away to Cymrea after I capture it, Im not keeping it, maybe just a few ports is all I really need from that region. The thing here is, is that you challenged me and I don't see a reason to back down from a challenge.
I didn't challenge you directly, I merely saw an opportunity to take some land close to home, and took it. I think Cymrea just wanted Patagonia anyway, for his Welsh speaking community...

I claimed all of that land and you challenged me by counterclaiming it.

Your troops came in from the south of the country, I invaded from the north, and you ignored it until I brought it to your attention. If, when Persecution and Hatred was deleted, certain parts of Argentina that were under my control at the time, were awarded to me, would you have contested that?

I made a claim, you made a counterclaim, thus you challenged my claim.

Your troops came in from the south of the country, I invaded from the north, and you ignored it until I brought it to your attention. If, when Persecution and Hatred was deleted, certain parts of Argentina that were under my control at the time, were awarded to me, would you have contested that?

Technically that should have happened. When he got the delete, whomever controlled what would get the default but since there were only 3 posts in the thread at the time, nobody really controlled anything, unfortunately.

You are entertaining Pushka you really are.

Thanks? You're running on a lot of assumptions, you really are. I can and I will beat you down if you try to invade Mexico. Seriously why did I ever consider you one of a reasonable members of TOA? Im kinda wondering that now.

Any chance you could respond to the Argentina thread Pushka, before I fall asleep.

You are entertaining Pushka you really are.

You are entertaining Pushka you really are.

And nonsense like in the quote above is exactly the reason why I need to fight wars, so clowns like Hawdawg can't accuse me of overexagerating my capabilities.

Any chance you could respond to the Argentina thread Pushka, before I fall asleep.

Just did, jolt is warping time again, sorry.

Just did, jolt is warping time again, sorry.

Yeah the frequency of that happening is increasing in the last few days.

Nobody can reason with you Puska, you would argue with God almighty himself given the chance.

I have said my piece, stated my position and I am through talking about this.


-Hawdawg

He argues with me all the time. LOL sorry I had to throw that in there Haw :).

Nobody can reason with you Puska, you would argue with God almighty himself given the chance.

I have said my piece, stated my position and I am through talking about this.


-Hawdawg

Yeah the frequency of that happening is increasing in the last few days.

Must be the apocalypse.

Nobody can reason with you Puska, you would argue with God almighty himself given the chance.

I have said my piece, stated my position and I am through talking about this.


-Hawdawg

When stop talking, Im a very reasonable person but I haven't even tried to reason with you cause where is nothing to reason about. You make an outrageous claim and I counter it with a true claim of my own and when you proceed to attempting to poke at my pride, thats all where is to this, moving on.

yankees Win!!!!

We Will Not Get Swept!!!!

When stop talking, Im a very reasonable person but I haven't even tried to reason with you cause where is nothing to reason about. You make an outrageous claim and I counter it with a true claim of my own and when you proceed to attempting to poke at my pride, thats all where is to this, moving on.

Every claim you make is "true" and you never, ever, ever, ever, ever poke at the pride of others.

Man you guys coming at me from all these directions I feel like the energizer bunny on acid.

Yankies? Baseball? Really? Really? Meh, baseball is like Nascar its only good because of the social interaction associated with it (aka drinking with your friends and fucking random chicks that happened to be at the party). Uncle Vanya loves Nascar parking lot!

Every claim you make is "true" and you never, ever, ever, ever, ever poke at the pride of others.

Of course I do, I don't poke as much as I stab with my rant of badassness (and surprisingly that is actually a word recognized by Firefox dictionary, the more you know...)

Man you guys coming at me from all these directions I feel like the energizer bunny on acid.

Yankies? Baseball? Really? Really? Meh, baseball is like Nascar its only good because of the social interaction associated with it (aka drinking with your friends and fucking random chicks that happened to be at the party). Uncle Vanya loves Nascar parking lot!

NASCAR, bah boring.

Of course it is, but where are hot chicks and drunk rednecks giving you free beer in the parking lot.

Or the parking lot at Yankee stadium with hot chicks and free beer.

NASCAR, bah boring.

Of course it is, but where are hot chicks and drunk rednecks giving you free beer in the parking lot.

Here's a breakdown of my Vesta rocket regiments being deployed into Ynoga and South Eastern Virginia.

Squadron
6x M2027A3 TELs (with 6x Vestas ready)
2x M2016A3 LAADS (air defense)
6x M2037A20 HEMTT (with 6x Vesta reloads)
2x M2025A1 Piranha (anti-tank defense)
2x M2048A1 Shark IFV (armored defense)

There are a total of 56 crew members between these vehicles and a single 8 man infantry squad between the two IFVs.

In each regiment there are 4 battalions and in each battlion there are 4 companies and each company has 4 squads. In total that gives me 384 Vesta missiles at the ready with 384 reloads. Out of the 4 squads I intend on one being loaded with just WMD-equipped missiles, the W-105-7 warhead or the chemical warhead. In each regiment there are 4,096 people in total.

I plan on these two deployments plus a more secretive third deployment elsewhere. In total there will be 1,152 missiles at the ready and a further 1,152 within 15 - 30 minutes of reloading.

Each regiment costs just $10,291,200,000.00 fully equipped, missiles and all. ($41,164,800,000.00 for all 3 regiments).


7.62 x 51mm: 11,600 rounds
12.7 x 99mm: 29,200 rounds
15.5 x 115mm: 1,960 rounds
35 x 228mm: 5,480 rounds
MGM-166B LOSAT: 8 missiles
FIM-186A Wizard: 122 missiles
MIM-220A/B Nightflyer: 16 missiles
MGM-229A/B Silencer: 72 missiles
MGM-233A/B/C/D/E Vesta: 12 missiles

Note: Does not include crew-served weapons...

Or the parking lot at Yankee stadium with hot chicks and free beer.

Which is my point, both "sports" are boring as hell and are only popular because of the social gathering that they create.

Which is my point, both "sports" are boring as hell and are only popular because of the social gathering that they create.

Clearly you've never been to Yankee Stadium...

Just to finalize my return the following are all actions being taken by the newly formed Nerotikan Government as well as options for nations involved in political situations with our government.

Military Actions
-All border military along Cottish controled territories will be lessened by 60% to support future peace talks with this border nation.
-Pushkan Military Units (If there are any) inside Nerotikan Borders will be asked to aide in securing certain 'Hostile' area's leftover from the small civil war.
-The Military will be starting Compulsory service (Males at age 18 will be sent to the national army [Unless they join a diff. branch before hand] Females at age 18 will be sent to the local state military unit [Unless they join a diff. branch before hand, they will not recieve full military training at these facilities only enough to defend if they are called upon] Along with this service, college courses will be given to all those who are drafted at discount prices where as those who join willingly will have virtually free courses.

Political Actions
-The Cottish state will be asked at this time to either agree or disagree to peace talks. Note: If disagreed upon the military reduction along the borders will stop and all unit's will return to posts only for protection of national security. [Also, if ignored this will be taken as disagreement and military units will be placed stronger along te border. By ignoring this proposition you are declaring yourself above us of which would be a very disrespectful thing to do]
-Nerotika will open relations to all but waring nations. Any nation that is involved in a war and wants relations with Nerotika must not involve our state in any item of buisiness that could show our support for either side.

All things said in this actions are needed for those "Just in case" moments.

Official Statement

To: Government of Nerotika
From: His Majesty's Council, the Realm of Cotland

The Realm applauds this move made by the Nerotikan nation in the unilatteral reduction of its military forces along the Cottish-Nerotikan border. We believe that this act of good will is a necessary stepping stone on the road towards a viable peace agreement, and the Realm shall therefore also conduct an act of good will and agree to participate in peace talks.

Until a viable peace agreement is hammered out and in effect however, the Realm shall maintain the defensive positions the Royal Cottish Military has assumed following the end of major combat actions in Kostroma to ensure the safety of our territories.

In the peace talks, we hope to raise the highly important topics of repatriation of damages sustained by the Realm as the result of the Nerotikan aggression, extradition of war criminals for a war crimes trial in Cotland, the return of the some 2,500 Nerotikan prisoners of war to their homes, and the return of the remains of Nerotikan soldiers killed in action to Nerotika.

We would however demand that the peace talks take place in a neutral forum.

OOC: Any volunteers?

The Nation of Trensk offers both sides a neutral place to conduct talks.

Cough - Johannesburg Courts - Cough
You could even hold war trails there...

The Nation of Trensk offers both sides a neutral place to conduct talks.

^^^ good idea ^^^

Cough - Johannesburg Courts - Cough
You could even hold war trails there...

^^^ good idea ^^^

Just to finalize my return the following are all actions being taken by the newly formed Nerotikan Government as well as options for nations involved in political situations with our government.

Military Actions
-All border military along Cottish controled territories will be lessened by 60% to support future peace talks with this border nation.
-Pushkan Military Units (If there are any) inside Nerotikan Borders will be asked to aide in securing certain 'Hostile' area's leftover from the small civil war.
-The Military will be starting Compulsory service (Males at age 18 will be sent to the national army [Unless they join a diff. branch before hand] Females at age 18 will be sent to the local state military unit [Unless they join a diff. branch before hand, they will not recieve full military training at these facilities only enough to defend if they are called upon] Along with this service, college courses will be given to all those who are drafted at discount prices where as those who join willingly will have virtually free courses.

Political Actions
-The Cottish state will be asked at this time to either agree or disagree to peace talks. Note: If disagreed upon the military reduction along the borders will stop and all unit's will return to posts only for protection of national security. [Also, if ignored this will be taken as disagreement and military units will be placed stronger along te border. By ignoring this proposition you are declaring yourself above us of which would be a very disrespectful thing to do]
-Nerotika will open relations to all but waring nations. Any nation that is involved in a war and wants relations with Nerotika must not involve our state in any item of buisiness that could show our support for either side.

All things said in this actions are needed for those "Just in case" moments.

We are sure to lend USR our military support in order to maintain stability in our region of the world. A significant amount of forces is currently moving through USR territory, their main task is to secure the Russian claims in the former Panthean territory but a portion of them can be dispatched along the way to eliminate the hostile elements in the USR. We will need more intelligence on the matter however provided by you.

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs

[based on the outcome of these peace talks the Empire may be more receptive to the Nerotikan nation]

I would like to recomend Brink's location. Its far from both our nations making it more neutral then a nearby nation of which people could be influenced by either nation to act against the other as seperate parties.

Currently we dont believe we have many members of the former soviet party or military parties that are being held as war criminals. If there are any people, named or not named that you want to hold trials for please request this and we will issue a warrent asap. You do have to note that some military officials who have been reinstated into the new military cannot be tried, most actions taken during war times are actions that had to be taken and so we cannot punish a high ranking official for taking orders and delievering them. As it stands now we have taken guards, officials and all the sorts connected to the prison camps and work camps and they are being tried, most prison camps held cottish citizens and people of cottish decent if you would like to hold neutral trials on them this can be arranged as we are glad to get rid of these dogs from our system.

On a non-IC note, what happened to Panth?

I would like to recomend Brink's location. Its far from both our nations making it more neutral then a nearby nation of which people could be influenced by either nation to act against the other as seperate parties.

Currently we dont believe we have many members of the former soviet party or military parties that are being held as war criminals. If there are any people, named or not named that you want to hold trials for please request this and we will issue a warrent asap. You do have to note that some military officials who have been reinstated into the new military cannot be tried, most actions taken during war times are actions that had to be taken and so we cannot punish a high ranking official for taking orders and delievering them. As it stands now we have taken guards, officials and all the sorts connected to the prison camps and work camps and they are being tried, most prison camps held cottish citizens and people of cottish decent if you would like to hold neutral trials on them this can be arranged as we are glad to get rid of these dogs from our system.

On a non-IC note, what happened to Panth?

deat'd by NS (no activity 28 days)

Another thing, Nerotika would like to become a swizterland of sorts. Really I just dont like rping wars (Takes time I dont have then my RP's look half ass and retarded) so from this point on this state will neither declare war or fight in one unless directly involved, as with the pockets of rebel fighting within borders.

Pushka, i'll make a thread mainly its so I can get use to writting again but also I can use this thread where you help clear out resistance as a way to introduce the new nation as a whole. Should be fun ^.^

Another thing, Nerotika would like to become a swizterland of sorts. Really I just dont like rping wars (Takes time I dont have then my RP's look half ass and retarded) so from this point on this state will neither declare war or fight in one unless directly involved, as with the pockets of rebel fighting within borders.

Pushka, i'll make a thread mainly its so I can get use to writting again but also I can use this thread where you help clear out resistance as a way to introduce the new nation as a whole. Should be fun ^.^

Tis interesting...

Tis interesting...

Your mother is interesting =-P...so lay, how's things been goin? I see some new people

Your mother is interesting =-P...so lay, how's things been goin? I see some new people

A couple of new faces. Know any more? We got land.

:: sigh ::

on a lighter note i am ranked #56 :)

If your bored, I got some work for you to do.

So you can update your spreadsheet with my information, Current leader is Chairman Voloda Darinsky
Head of State is the National Council
Independence Day would be December, 12 '06
Dont care about timezones, if you wanna just go with what is regularly is please by all means go for it.
ummm...anything else?

If your bored, I got some work for you to do.

So you can update your spreadsheet with my information, Current leader is Chairman Voloda Darinsky
Head of State is the National Council
Independence Day would be December, 12 '06
Dont care about timezones, if you wanna just go with what is regularly is please by all means go for it.
ummm...anything else?

Largest religion and is the government still a council organized democracy? Also what is your calling code.

Largest religion and is the government still a council organized democracy? Also what is your calling code.

Largest Religion, you can just say none (After that whole ban of religion then killing off of those who praticed it, It'll be awhile before I have a main religion), The government is still that yes and go with 23 as the calling code...I like that number.

aight sounds cool.

AH...time jump O.o

Largest Religion, you can just say none (After that whole ban of religion then killing off of those who praticed it, It'll be awhile before I have a main religion), The government is still that yes and go with 23 as the calling code...I like that number.

alright edited but i'll upload it tomorrow.

AH...time jump O.o

Time warping again. I notice that it usually happens mostly around midnight (eastern time). It was doing it last night for a few hours thereafter too.

Another thing, Nerotika would like to become a swizterland of sorts. Really I just dont like rping wars (Takes time I dont have then my RP's look half ass and retarded) so from this point on this state will neither declare war or fight in one unless directly involved, as with the pockets of rebel fighting within borders.

Pushka, i'll make a thread mainly its so I can get use to writting again but also I can use this thread where you help clear out resistance as a way to introduce the new nation as a whole. Should be fun ^.^

Alrighty, Im going to need to discuss a few things with you, such as my military and civilian traffic through your lands after you're stable since i need to get to my holdings in Panthea, and when where is something else that you me and Cot can participate in, I mentioned to Cot, not sure if he remembers but I don't see why he would mind. [psst, Cot its that pipeline thing]\

Btw Nero Voloda is not a Russian name, I think you tried to say Володя, but thats more like Volodya in english and its just a "short" name, or more correctly a non-formal way to say Vladimir. Its kinda complicated and Im not exactly the one to explain with my 7 grades of Russian schooling and constant 3s (a grade equivalent to American C) in Russian (yeah, you think english is hard, you'll get brainfucked by Russian) but eh, its something you just got to know where is no real rule for it. Like Alexander is Sasha, or Sanya, or Sashok, or Sanka, Alexandra (a female name) can only be Sasha, my name Ivan (not pronounced like you think) is also Vanya and in slang also Vano and Vaniek. Vladimir is Volodya, Vova, Vovchik and Vovka, where is a way to explain it, something to do with roots and endings but the thing is the Russian language always has more different exceptions to a rule when words that follow the said rule. And why am I ranting about Russian language?

I'm going to claim:

Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Sergipe)

Lay, I tried to make a claim on Paraíba earlier but it was overlooked:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13062593&postcount=20395

^ It's down towards the bottom of that post/

I just finished up my little 'mini-story' in Land of Sin:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13120008#post13120008

I hope you guys liked it. I wrote it as a base for the next stage- greater Hirgizstanian involvement in the conflict. The events in it will be vital later on in the RP.

Lay, I tried to make a claim on Paraíba earlier but it was overlooked:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13062593&postcount=20395

^ It's down towards the bottom of that post/

And you are correct. Well looks like I'm out of that one perhaps. Unless you want to do a joint venture? I was thinking about a special economic zone for both areas...any interest? no biggie if not.

Alrighty, Im going to need to discuss a few things with you, such as my military and civilian traffic through your lands after you're stable since i need to get to my holdings in Panthea, and when where is something else that you me and Cot can participate in, I mentioned to Cot, not sure if he remembers but I don't see why he would mind. [psst, Cot its that pipeline thing]\

Btw Nero Voloda is not a Russian name, I think you tried to say Володя, but thats more like Volodya in english and its just a "short" name, or more correctly a non-formal way to say Vladimir. Its kinda complicated and Im not exactly the one to explain with my 7 grades of Russian schooling and constant 3s (a grade equivalent to American C) in Russian (yeah, you think english is hard, you'll get brainfucked by Russian) but eh, its something you just got to know where is no real rule for it. Like Alexander is Sasha, or Sanya, or Sashok, or Sanka, Alexandra (a female name) can only be Sasha, my name Ivan (not pronounced like you think) is also Vanya and in slang also Vano and Vaniek. Vladimir is Volodya, Vova, Vovchik and Vovka, where is a way to explain it, something to do with roots and endings but the thing is the Russian language always has more different exceptions to a rule when words that follow the said rule. And why am I ranting about Russian language?

Wel... I dont really know why your ranting. Eh but I got the name from some movie I watched and I thought it sounded good...even if it is just a nickname or whatnot it still works, I know plenty of people who were named after a nickname rather then the full....oh well.

Anyway, whats this pipeline thing?

Before anything goes down with Pantheaa's territories whoever claimed Ul' Yanovsk I would like to work out a deal for this territory. This one only, it was going to be mine but I had given it to Pantheaa as a show of alliance and with him gone I would like to take control of it. If I can work something out, anything, to get this territory please say something (I didn't want to sort out through the thread to find the claims..)

Dangerous Power...

[it'll all be explained...]

Like a flower...

I'm still laying the ground work for the revamped and improved Infernal so don't think I've forgotten about it. It just wasn't as dark as I want it to be and that's a major problem.

I'm still laying the ground work for the revamped and improved Infernal so don't think I've forgotten about it. It just wasn't as dark as I want it to be and that's a major problem.

Want to see darkness, check out the upcoming episode of Operation Brotherhood, things will really unfold and its going to get bloody. Im also planning to make it a big, chapter size post since I have a lot of ideas and the plot is drawn out up to chapter 3 at least so I do not want to delay it much further then I need to.

I've been a little busy running a Romano-Welsh Victorian Britain on another thread while this Argentina thing plays out. So far still no conclusions I see...:p

Aside from that, ignore all the Cascadia junk in my sig, it turns out that The World is interested in merely resuming the R&D arms race that caused The World's WWIII and it's current state of near-catastrophy. Crippled nations are spending as much as 30% of their income on militaries. What a waste.

Which leads me to ask, at least half-rhetorically, what the hell is with every cyber-nerd's sociopathic need to author themselves imaginary nations concerned only with their textual masturbations and being "teh pwnzorz"? From this group I exclude anyone with a genuine interest in crafting interactive fiction at a government level; it those who see NS as nothing more than a very very slow game of HALO that irritates. Almost even before a factbook worth the firing of the two synapses it took to slap it together, they have an equally abyssmal order of battle all ready to go with disgusting numbers based more in their aforementioned need to field an army of epic proportions than the responsible design of a defence force with which to protect their sovereignty.

So, in conclusion, "The World" is a disappointment in practice, made much the worse by its seemingly promising premise and structure. Not to mention the fact that I had a sweet expanse of North American west coast and no neighbours!

I read the last dozen pages and I have some observations to share. Pushka, tvarisch, you hold vast tracts of land in E2 and Pineholt holds four islands and Uruguay, the anus of South America (no offense). Yes you claimed first, but you were absent from the RP for a month without warning, which is a reasonable amount of time to presume you had abandoned it. And the fact that you consider others the aggressor while simultaneously filling your posts with elaborate hints of creating an entire weather pattern of fine red mist speaks to aggressiveness in eloquent volumes. Now I realize that you're intending to all but hand them over to me so I might return to E2, and for that I am sincerely grateful. It's a generosity we don't get to see from you a lot, so believe me, I appreciate it.

I do, however, propose a compromise that is partisan, biased, and egocentric in the extreme since it is my potential land holdings involved should Pushka's claim be realized:

1) Pineholt agrees to withdraw all of his claims over the region of Argentina.
2) Pushka RPs a decent take-over with as little dog-kicking as possible. :p
3) Cymrea is reborn - after a fashion - in those territories.
4) Cymrea genuinely entertains negotiations with Pineholt for territory in his own back yard into which he may expand.

I used to play a dominion of Rome, so an independent holding would be a nice return. As for my proposal, I'm banking on my reputation for being reasonable and fair. :cool:

That might actually work, Im really in this right now to show off my big hairy balls, that way I can still do so and the conflict can be resolved peacefully and I can move on to things much more interesting such as for example redoing my military and posting the next chapter of Operation Brotherhood which is my main RP of badassness. What? I don't masturbate to Halo, I masturbate to everything but. And its tovarish, stop butchering Russian language! And yes I reserve the right to butcher english, life's a bitch, sorry. Im generous, when its worth my while, kinda like the guys who donate money to aids research just to get a tax break. By the way, I need to do that to get a tax break, hmm. Alright, passing out now.

--edit--

Although Pine is the aggressor, was he the first to claim was lands and I to counterclaim then I would be but thats not how it happened so he is the aggressor because it was his decision to put up a counterclaim (somehow expecting me to not care) and start all of this shit. His initial aggression thus excuses any that is sure to come from me unless I am satisfied by the outcome of the peacetalks.

I've been a little busy running a Romano-Welsh Victorian Britain on another thread while this Argentina thing plays out. So far still no conclusions I see...:p

Aside from that, ignore all the Cascadia junk in my sig, it turns out that The World is interested in merely resuming the R&D arms race that caused The World's WWIII and it's current state of near-catastrophy. Crippled nations are spending as much as 30% of their income on militaries. What a waste.

Which leads me to ask, at least half-rhetorically, what the hell is with every cyber-nerd's sociopathic need to author themselves imaginary nations concerned only with their textual masturbations and being "teh pwnzorz"? From this group I exclude anyone with a genuine interest in crafting interactive fiction at a government level; it those who see NS as nothing more than a very very slow game of HALO that irritates. Almost even before a factbook worth the firing of the two synapses it took to slap it together, they have an equally abyssmal order of battle all ready to go with disgusting numbers based more in their aforementioned need to field an army of epic proportions than the responsible design of a defence force with which to protect their sovereignty.

So, in conclusion, "The World" is a disappointment in practice, made much the worse by its seemingly promising premise and structure. Not to mention the fact that I had a sweet expanse of North American west coast and no neighbours!

I read the last dozen pages and I have some observations to share. Pushka, tvarisch, you hold vast tracts of land in E2 and Pineholt holds four islands and Uruguay, the anus of South America (no offense). Yes you claimed first, but you were absent from the RP for a month without warning, which is a reasonable amount of time to presume you had abandoned it. And the fact that you consider others the aggressor while simultaneously filling your posts with elaborate hints of creating an entire weather pattern of fine red mist speaks to aggressiveness in eloquent volumes. Now I realize that you're intending to all but hand them over to me so I might return to E2, and for that I am sincerely grateful. It's a generosity we don't get to see from you a lot, so believe me, I appreciate it.

I do, however, propose a compromise that is partisan, biased, and egocentric in the extreme since it is my potential land holdings involved should Pushka's claim be realized:

1) Pineholt agrees to withdraw all of his claims over the region of Argentina.
2) Pushka RPs a decent take-over with as little dog-kicking as possible. :p
3) Cymrea is reborn - after a fashion - in those territories.
4) Cymrea genuinely entertains negotiations with Pineholt for territory in his own back yard into which he may expand.

I used to play a dominion of Rome, so an independent holding would be a nice return. As for my proposal, I'm banking on my reputation for being reasonable and fair. :cool:

Good lord someone understood why I was saying negotiate and compromise and talk to Cymrea.

Good lord someone understood why I was saying negotiate and compromise and talk to Cymrea.

I still don't get it, why negotiate and compromise if Pine would be so easy to crush?

I feel ignored, I need to know who claimed Ul' Yanovsk as I am placing a counterclaim, however late it may be, on this territory. I would prefer not to become an aggressive type, or be considered a threat so if there is some way I can work out a deal please say something.

Cot did.

No, I think you did Pushka. I claimed Nizhny Novgorod, Vladimir, Tambov, Mordvinia, and Ryazan, and you claimed the rest, so I believe he's making a hostile threat towards you.

The Royal Cottish Military, complete with the two new TMR(V)* deployed to Kostroma and Komi stands ready to repeat its actions in the Four-Day War though, just in case Nerotika doesn't read this post.


* = Cookie to whoever manage to correctly guess what this is an abberviation for. Layarteb is excluded since he already knows.

Does it stand for something Norwegian or English?

Okay I did, sorry didn't check. Yeah Nero, I suggest you let it go, I have a large amount of forces in your territory right now and they might just decide to turn on your capitol. Deal wise, only for other patch of land in Russia.

Does it stand for something Norwegian or English?

We're all awaiting your reply in Argentina Invasion.

Okay I did, sorry didn't check. Yeah Nero, I suggest you let it go, I have a large amount of forces in your territory right now and they might just decide to turn on your capitol. Deal wise, only for other patch of land in Russia.

Im fine with a trade, im in negotiations with Rome right now over a few territories but when thats through we can look at what I have left and decide.

As for being hostile, no I mean nothing aggressive by my words. I mean only that I am willing to negotiate anything to get this territory.

As for Cotland's actions, I am neither prepared nor wanting any military conflict to arrise out of this. If a deal cannot be reached then I would prefer it that way rather then start another war. Basically Cot you can trust me, I understand my actions before have been rather careless and quick without thought but now that I have time to take things slow I would rather do things diplomatically over forcefully.

Also, im still hoping for a unified russia and would like to hear more about this pipeline Pushka metioned. As russian nations we should be looking for ways to uphold a union over ways to crush each other and a good way to start would be to meet as a whole rather then a few. I suggest that when me and Cot meet we invite a Pushkan delegate along with whoever else (As I am not sure who claims their russian territories as their nation) to this meeting to get some sort of talks between our nations going.

No, I think you did Pushka. I claimed Nizhny Novgorod, Vladimir, Tambov, Mordvinia, and Ryazan, and you claimed the rest, so I believe he's making a hostile threat towards you.

The Royal Cottish Military, complete with the two new TMR(V)* deployed to Kostroma and Komi stands ready to repeat its actions in the Four-Day War though, just in case Nerotika doesn't read this post.


* = Cookie to whoever manage to correctly guess what this is an abberviation for. Layarteb is excluded since he already knows.

It stands for The MetallicA Rockzor!

I still don't get it, why negotiate and compromise if Pine would be so easy to crush?

Yet you got it when Cymrea said it???????

Ok so after looking at the maps and reading back on a few things im a little confused here. NG has been off and on sparatically like me, he controles large chunks of the world outside what I can only assume is his mainland and so how exactly is it possible for him to control these territories? For instance if I were to claim the four russian territories under mine and take them over, how exactly would I be in the wronge to take over a relativly ungoverned area in control of a nation thousands upon thousands of miles and two nations or so away, along with the fact that he seems to not really be using these area's or governing them.

I know we have the non-active status and such but im thinking there should at least be a limited activity status, basically if you control colonies around the world then how exactly are you able to have them stable if your only able to make decisions out of your "Mainland". Im just trying to make it easier to gain more people in EII, I see it as if your going to control peices of the world in every region then you should be active enough to control them otherwise these so-called colonies should be up for grabs unless said controlling nation can show that they have an interest in there land claims worldwide rather then their national claims.

NG's been on and off D13. He's back on again for some health issues.

The problem with that, is that it would involve a mod (Lay I'm guessing) telling you that your colony has an uprising, and some people wouldn't be very happy with that I guess, although me personally, I have no problem with that.

Yes, I get that its understandable bu still with such a prolonged absence we should at least allow people to claim a few outer territories, At least stake a claim then on his return they RP a revolt or whatnot. I dont know, its just with such a small number of nations on EII its slowly becoming only a few nations who control everything then comes the downfall of this which has gone on for so long...without some restrictions it becomes a game of whoever takes over the world first rather then whoever can have the most stable nation.

Yes, I get that its understandable bu still with such a prolonged absence we should at least allow people to claim a few outer territories, At least stake a claim then on his return they RP a revolt or whatnot. I dont know, its just with such a small number of nations on EII its slowly becoming only a few nations who control everything then comes the downfall of this which has gone on for so long...without some restrictions it becomes a game of whoever takes over the world first rather then whoever can have the most stable nation.

I can post this to Mari but we have another problem too. If we were to open up a lot of land of D12/D8 people we don't exactly have a waiting list of people ready to come in and claim it up, which is a slight problem. i've thought about "advertising" but I don't think Jolt is too receptive to that policy. Any suggestions?

Apologies for not phoneticizing the Russian properly, Push. I only speak a few phrases and I'm not entirely certain how they get written in the English alphabet. I can, however, sing the entirety of Gymn Sovyetskaya Soyuz... I have yet to meet any other non-Russian who can. :)

Pineholt, what do you think of my proposed solution to the Argentina issue?

Apologies for not phoneticizing the Russian properly, Push. I only speak a few phrases and I'm not entirely certain how they get written in the English alphabet. I can, however, sing the entirety of Gymn Sovyetskaya Soyuz... I have yet to meet any other non-Russian who can. :)

Pineholt, what do you think of my proposed solution to the Argentina issue?

You should take some Brazilian land too, its open :).

It's not exactly contiguous, but it'd make a sweet new megamall. I'll take Brazil (Sergipe) if I can. :)

lol that one i have a claim on :).

It's not exactly contiguous, but it'd make a sweet new megamall. I'll take Brazil (Sergipe) if I can. :)

The other open one was claimed by Rome, I think, and I didn't see any other open land in Brazil...

Nice big white spot in the interior.

BTW are you able to access the offsite forums or are you still having PW trouble?

The other open one was claimed by Rome, I think, and I didn't see any other open land in Brazil...

Holy clairvoyance! It's like you can respond before I even post!!! :eek:

:rolleyes: Stoopid Jolt-warps.

So, Mato Grosso, Goias, Tocantins, and Distrito Federal? Yep, I'll take 'em. And is Paraguay one of the areas under Russo-Pineholtine conflict? Cuz I see it's also blank on the map.


And I've just now gone back to the Forsaken Outlaw forum...nice shiny new skins.

I can post this to Mari but we have another problem too. If we were to open up a lot of land of D12/D8 people we don't exactly have a waiting list of people ready to come in and claim it up, which is a slight problem. i've thought about "advertising" but I don't think Jolt is too receptive to that policy. Any suggestions?

Hmm.........it's a dilly of a pickle.

Sorry to have disappeared for so long guys, my job ended recently (seasonal thing); they've told me I'm more than welcome back in March, so I'm having October off for myself before I start looking for work to tide me over until then (if I find something more permanent then all the better). I can be a bit more active for the immediate future as a result.

Anyhoo, if anyone wants any funding/support/'advisory expeditions' from the UER then TG me with your reasons why you should receive it. Surely someone's willing to sell their soul to the Big Red Devil?

Holy clairvoyance! It's like you can respond before I even post!!! :eek:

:rolleyes: Stoopid Jolt-warps.

So, Mato Grosso, Goias, Tocantins, and Distrito Federal? Yep, I'll take 'em. And is Paraguay one of the areas under Russo-Pineholtine conflict? Cuz I see it's also blank on the map.


And I've just now gone back to the Forsaken Outlaw forum...nice shiny new skins.

Paraguay is under claim by Pineholt and it'll be added following the end of the RP. Yeah in January I relaunched the site with fancy new skins. This coming January I am going to play around with the main site design and possibly relaunch because xHTML sucks!

Hmm.........it's a dilly of a pickle.

Sorry to have disappeared for so long guys, my job ended recently (seasonal thing); they've told me I'm more than welcome back in March, so I'm having October off for myself before I start looking for work to tide me over until then (if I find something more permanent then all the better). I can be a bit more active for the immediate future as a result.

Anyhoo, if anyone wants any funding/support/'advisory expeditions' from the UER then TG me with your reasons why you should receive it. Surely someone's willing to sell their soul to the Big Red Devil?

The Empire is creating a special economic zone in Sergipe in Brazil. Perhaps the UER would like to invest?

Hmm...with that clarification, then let me add that I will be willing to cede any of those Brazilian claims to Pineholt, and officially recognize any claim to Paraguay in exchange for the cessation of hostilities and removal of any and all Pineholtine military assets in Argentinian territory, or in range to threaten them.

After that, we can negotiate a more cordial relationship.

Sound good, Pine?

The problem with that, is that it would involve a mod (Lay I'm guessing) telling you that your colony has an uprising, and some people wouldn't be very happy with that I guess, although me personally, I have no problem with that.

I personally won't venture around to dictating turns of events within territory on this game. At that point we might as well just be one of those turn based ones where the mods dictate what happens and people respond as such. That's not really what we endeavored to create here with E2.

Yes, I get that its understandable bu still with such a prolonged absence we should at least allow people to claim a few outer territories, At least stake a claim then on his return they RP a revolt or whatnot. I dont know, its just with such a small number of nations on EII its slowly becoming only a few nations who control everything then comes the downfall of this which has gone on for so long...without some restrictions it becomes a game of whoever takes over the world first rather then whoever can have the most stable nation.

I posted it to Mari so me and him will discuss and get back to everyone here.

But anyway start looking for newbies :) We need them.

I'm happy to announce that RTL has been running for 2 years!

Oh yeah and another thing.

October 31, 2007 = 850 years of EOL independence, 4 years of NS for me, and a big party in Layarteb City!

Hey Cymrea, if you'd like to avoid that cluster...fudge in SA, I'' glady give you some land over in Africa.

Yet you got it when Cymrea said it???????

That was different, in his scenario I would still not compromise but he will after I hand him over that land cause of my sudden burst of generosity.

That was different, in his scenario I would still not compromise but he will after I hand him over that land cause of my sudden burst of generosity.

This is how it looks from my point of view. I am giving these lands away to Cymrea (most of em anyways) so I couldn't really give two shits if Pine ends up with Buenos Aires or anything else. However he has not consulted me and he has started a conflict where there was none, thus I can not back down now, that would make me seem weak, also his attitude is not helping he is not realizing that I am doing him a favor by even mentioning the possibility of negotiations.

Why not let Cymrea and Pineholt work it out if you don't care? Why waste the resources when they might actually have a comrpomise? Did you ever think about that or just yourself?

That's from offline...

That's from offline...

The key difference here, in what Cymrea offered Pine will initially relinquish his claims. And god damn right I think about myself more when others, thats what everyone does.

Apologies for not phoneticizing the Russian properly, Push. I only speak a few phrases and I'm not entirely certain how they get written in the English alphabet. I can, however, sing the entirety of Gymn Sovyetskaya Soyuz... I have yet to meet any other non-Russian who can. :)

Pineholt, what do you think of my proposed solution to the Argentina issue?

Thats Gymn Sovestkogo Soyuza, Sovetskogo cause its a male word, but cool, cool you get points for that.

That's true, my proposed compromise presupposes the validity of my claim to Brazil without benefit of an RP, and sort of fudges the whole process of creation of my nation, cessation of Russo-Pineholtine hostilities, and the subsequent negotiation with Pineholt.

But it solves the cluster-bomb of issues in the region and RPs and histories can be written to match after the facts/lies are agreed upon, as Napoleon would have it, yes?

Thats Gymn Sovestkogo Soyuza, Sovetskogo cause its a male word, but cool, cool you get points for that.

I'm going to mangle this I'm sure, but you'll get the point:

Ya pyunimayu na guvareet nyemnoha pa-Rooskiye. :p

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A little something for RTL.

I'm going to mangle this I'm sure, but you'll get the point:

Ya pyunimayu na guvareet nyemnoha pa-Rooskiye. :p

That kinda remotely made sense, nice try though, something along the lines of:

I understand, I speak Russian a little bit.

Was that it?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b6/250px-Proton_Zvezda.jpg

A little something for RTL.

You going to launch the Russian Proton space rocket?

Yep, pretty much. "I understand and speak a little Russian" was my aim, but grammatical order yet evades me.

Still waiting on Pineholt's answer....

Yep, pretty much. "I understand and speak a little Russian" was my aim, but grammatical order yet evades me.

Still waiting on Pineholt's answer....

As am I, hell, I start RPing everyone stops. Yo Cot waiting on you in Swift Justice lets get that little detail over with and move on.

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Some screenies from Half-Life 2: Episode Two

Yes that's G-Man a.k.a. Mr. Carpenter!

Rome informed me that he would forgo his claim on Pariba in Brazil as he's over the land limit so I'm going to set up the SEZ in both Pariba and Sergipe.

My problem is that if i relinquish my claim to all the Argentinian land, then that makes my claim on Paraguay worthless as then they are not contiguous.

My problem is that if i relinquish my claim to all the Argentinian land, then that makes my claim on Paraguay worthless as then they are not contiguous.

Your other problem is that if you don't I'll remove you from where forcefully.

My problem is that if i relinquish my claim to all the Argentinian land, then that makes my claim on Paraguay worthless as then they are not contiguous.

Or negotiate with Cymrea about getting land.

FYI peoples

COD4 = GOD4!

The gameplay is SO fucking intense, the graphics are insane, and the bad guys are pretty smart! I threw grenades they threw them back!

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check out my ep2 pics

Or negotiate with Cymrea about getting land.

FYI peoples

COD4 = GOD4!

The gameplay is SO fucking intense, the graphics are insane, and the bad guys are pretty smart! I threw grenades they threw them back!

Wait, its out already? Why don't I have it yet? My PC isn't dead yet just has start up problems will get a new mobo but thats no reason to not enjoy CoD4 now.

Your other problem is that if you don't I'll remove you from where forcefully.

You can try.

I'll TG Cymrea, and see what he has to say about a proposal, and when I have his answer I'll post in the thread again.

Wait, its out already? Why don't I have it yet? My PC isn't dead yet just has start up problems will get a new mobo but thats no reason to not enjoy CoD4 now.

Demo.

Currenty waiting on Rome's confermation:

Kemerovo traded for Samera, Saratov, Orenburg and Penza.

6 o'clock could not be coming any slower today :(

Demo.

Downloading now. 1.37 GB = 1 hour 52 minutes and it's ready for install.

Currenty waiting on Rome's confirmation:

Kemerovo traded for Samara, Saratov, Orenburg and Penza.

Approved.

(Fixed the typos)

EDIT- Wow, my computer clock reads 6:09PM but the Jolt clock reads 6:12. Crazy.

Approved.

(Fixed the typos)

EDIT- Wow, my computer clock reads 6:09PM but the Jolt clock reads 6:12. Crazy.

Yeah, I dont use Firefox...I probably should cause I suck at spelling but by now im sure you guys have realized that.

Yeah, I dont use Firefox...I probably should cause I suck at spelling but by now im sure you guys have realized that.

I didn't mean to be mean- I just wanted to be helpful. In any case, it's no big deal- by the way, I too use IE; I'm just good at spelling and grammar (not to brag).

Approved.

(Fixed the typos)

EDIT- Wow, my computer clock reads 6:09PM but the Jolt clock reads 6:12. Crazy.

Jolt is doing the time warp!

Oh so thats why he didn't want to trade me for Saratov.

Now don't go start a war with Rome because his trade insulted Russia or some other warped reason.

You can try.

I'll TG Cymrea, and see what he has to say about a proposal, and when I have his answer I'll post in the thread again.

You're still not getting it are you, its not a "can try" its a "will do", where is no way you're winning if it comes down to war depending on how well you RP it will either be longer or shorter but in the end I will win. Probably shorter I already got enough forces surged up to blow you away . If you keep that attitude of yours I'll kick your ass just for shits and giggles and no agreement with Cymrea is going to help you. Understand?

Currenty waiting on Rome's confermation:

Kemerovo traded for Samera, Saratov, Orenburg and Penza.

Oh so thats why he didn't want to trade me for Saratov.

Now don't go start a war with Rome because his trade insulted Russia or some other warped reason.

Warped reasons my friend is your domain I don't deal in bullshit. Nah Im not starting a war with Rome, I respect Rome, plus I'll probably get one of those territories by trading Ulyanovsk to Nero.

Warped reasons my friend is your domain I don't deal in bullshit. Nah Im not starting a war with Rome, I respect Rome, plus I'll probably get one of those territories by trading Ulyanovsk to Nero.

:: laughs at your denial ::

:: laughs at your denial ::

Okay? And? You're still the bullshit master with all your "complex mindgames",, Im straight forward nothing I have said recently was bullshit. But thus yet again your failed attempt to poke at my pride, getting over it anytime soon? But hell, please explain to me how I got "warped reasoning" and what exactly is an example of my warped reasoning. And I'll give you a plenty examples of you dealing in bullshit in return, deal? In any case if you want to start another round of our yelling over internet competition I suggest we take it to your forums.

Okay? And? You're still the bullshit master with all your "complex mindgames",, Im straight forward nothing I have said recently was bullshit. But thus yet again your failed attempt to poke at my pride, getting over it anytime soon? But hell, please explain to me how I got "warped reasoning".

You accuse me of mind games yet you have never pointed out an example of one.

You accuse me of mind games yet you have never pointed out an example of one.

Operation Sunset, or what the hell was the name of it? Your "peacekeeping" operation in Ter del Feugo(sp?), pretty much every time you try to provoke me. But lets get back to how I got warped reasoning. In that AIM conversation that started this shit I was just saying how things are in you know the real world btw, you for some reason got insulted and decided to go all out douchebag on me. For some reason you're still insulted two weeks after that? Jesus what are you 5 years old and not getting cookies?

Operation Sunset, or what the hell was the name of it? Your "peacekeeping" operation in Ter del Feugo(sp?), pretty much every time you try to provoke me. But lets get back to how I got warped reasoning. In that AIM conversation that started this shit I was just saying how things are in you know the real world btw, you for some reason got insulted and decided to go all out douchebag on me. For some reason you're still insulted two weeks after that? Jesus what are you 5 years old and not getting cookies?

mmmm....cookies.

Operation Sunset, or what the hell was the name of it? Your "peacekeeping" operation in Ter del Feugo(sp?), pretty much every time you try to provoke me. But lets get back to how I got warped reasoning. In that AIM conversation that started this shit I was just saying how things are in you know the real world btw, you for some reason got insulted and decided to go all out douchebag on me. For some reason you're still insulted two weeks after that? Jesus what are you 5 years old and not getting cookies?

Sunset was several things, all of which real-life countries conduct on a very regular basis. Anything else? Peacekeeping in Tierra del Fuego...what mind game is there. You only see everything as the whole TOA vs. Me aspect so everything I would do, good or bad, you would see as me provoking you so yeah next? I'm not insulted nor was I insulted, that's just what you wanted me to be and for the record "Layarteb, the cocksucker" thread definitely didn't win you points.

Sunset was several things, all of which real-life countries conduct on a very regular basis. Anything else? Peacekeeping in Tierra del Fuego...what mind game is there. You only see everything as the whole TOA vs. Me aspect so everything I would do, good or bad, you would see as me provoking you so yeah next? I'm not insulted nor was I insulted, that's just what you wanted me to be and for the record "Layarteb, the cocksucker" thread definitely didn't win you points.

Im not in this to win points. Hell I don't really care anymore, all where is left is curiosity at this point. So you're not insulted but you're angry at me for some reason...hmm...interesting. Sunset was a definite provocation from you to me even though other members of TOA as I now know did not realize it. RL nations conduct global exercises but they don't usually move mass amounts of forces towards the borders of nations that are semi-hostile to them.

Im not in this to win points. Hell I don't really care anymore, all where is left is curiosity at this point. So you're not insulted but you're angry at me for some reason...hmm...interesting. Sunset was a definite provocation from you to me even though other members of TOA as I now know did not realize it. RL nations conduct global exercises but they don't usually move mass amounts of forces towards the borders of nations that are semi-hostile to them.

What would you call the Joint Exercises between China and Russia in the Taiwan Straits or the US/Taiwan ones in the same locale? Or those conducted by the US/Japan/ROK near the DPRK? Or those conducted in the Persian Gulf near Iran?