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I'll work all of these out after I eat my lasagna!

Well, I originally intended to claim 0,8 trillion, but let's just say 0,8 billion and be done with it. OK?

Sure, i wanna make it like 15 billion, jsut to be fair. Alright, i am waiting for your reply.

Sure, i wanna make it like 15 billion, jsut to be fair. Alright, i am waiting for your reply.

OK, since you insist. Layarteb, please transfer Novaya Zemlya to Pushka.

OK, since you insist. Layarteb, please transfer Novaya Zemlya to Pushka.

Actually you know what. Lets hold the actual deal till after he aproves the terroritories i already claim. K?

Actually you know what. Lets hold the actual deal till after he aproves the terroritories i already claim. K?
Fine by me.

Pushka: For Novaya Zemlya I have to cut out 100,000 from Krasnoyarsk Krai.

Cotland: Added.

Okay nvm Navaya Zemlya, i rather not pay for the land if i can't get more land anyways. I thought i could get territories for free and then buy Navaya Zemlya, but i guess i can't. So no Novaya Zemlya. Also Cotland got a lot of land and only 247 million in population. Does all this land he has not add up to a lot more 500k miles? Not that i am saying anything against it. Just curious.

Samtonia: Okay you posted a ton of islands so let me explain this how I organized it. Anything in the Lesser Antilles is categorized as Lesser Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilles#Lesser_Antilles). Some of the islands were in the Greater Antilles but since they encompass Cuba, I did them separately. Some of the islands were part of other islands, some were listed more than once in your request, some were already claimed (Key West & and the Cuban Island). This is what you have.


Bahamas: 8,661.91
Cayman Islands: 161.56
Dominican Republic: 30,279.42
Haiti: 17,243.05
Jamaica: 6,829.49
Lesser Antilles: 2,145.00
Puerto Rico: 5,656.96
Turks and Caicos: 166.00
Total: 71,143.39


For reference please see Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) and you can see what I broke down.

Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Chuvashia Republic: 7,065.67
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Falkland Islands (east): 2,550.21
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Orenburg Oblast: 77,050.03
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Sverdlovsk Oblast: 75,212.70
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 1,004,014.71


Yeah Cotland he's right. Just recently, I think with the past claims you went over 500,000.

BTW over 10,000 views and 1,000 pages...keep it up!!!

Excuse me. Can i be aproved?

Excuse me. Can i be aproved?

You are...

Okay, ah what about Novaya Zemlya? Remember i didn't buy it, and i don't want to buy it. Okay?

Okay, ah what about Novaya Zemlya? Remember i didn't buy it, and i don't want to buy it. Okay?

Yeah, you're fine I took that into account.

Yeah, you're fine I took that into account.

Thats cool man. Thats cool. Thanks.

Thats cool man. Thats cool. Thanks.

Still looking for a heavy bomber? (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384467)

No, not really. I am developing this models.

Sukhoi T-60S Project
Sukhoi T-4MS ("200")
Myasishchev GP-60D Katun

With my new plasma shield technology (Its MT, not godmod, it has been offered for export by Russian federation since 1999, its radar-signature reduction technology, very effective, reduces radar signature by a factor of a 100.) this babies will own

Plasma shield technology?

Plasma shield technology?

Plasma stealth in reality, but i like to call it plasma shield for some random reason.

http://iron-eagles.tripod.com/articles/active.htm

link above.

and thats the type of applycation of that technology i am using

"The system developed by the Russians is also based on electromagnetic wave-plasma interactions, but in a very different way. Russian stealth plasma device creates a plasma field around an aircraft. This field partially consumes electromagnetic energy of a hostile radar or causes it to bend around the aircraft, reducing the aircraft RCS by up to 100 times. Sounds fantastic? Not really: effects of dissipation and bending of electromagnetic signals in presence of plasma field have been observed for decades. If there is anything new about the system developed by the Russians it certainly is not the theoretical part but technical aspects of the plasma generator. Keldysh Research Center claims to have developed, built and tested a plasma shield generator that weighs only 100 kg."

Plasma stealth in reality, but i like to call it plasma shield for some random reason.

http://iron-eagles.tripod.com/articles/active.htm

link above.

You should understand something... Using plasma coating has three serious drawbacks:

1. Enormous power usage. Your plane's batteries are going to be totally drained if you keep the system active for any extended period of time.

2. It blocks your own RADAR from effective operation as well.

3. It leaves an ionization trail, meaning LIDAR-guided munitions are going to literally rape your aircraft as they try to move in.

There's a few others I can't quite recall. Either way, plasma is not particularly useful in a military application.

You should understand something... Using plasma coating has three serious drawbacks:

1. Enormous power usage. Your plane's batteries are going to be totally drained if you keep the system active for any extended period of time.

2. It blocks your own RADAR from effective operation as well.

3. It leaves an ionization trail, meaning LIDAR-guided munitions are going to literally rape your aircraft as they try to move in.

There's a few others I can't quite recall. Either way, plasma is not particularly useful in a military application.

It is if i put it on a supersonic bomber. Anyways, i am planning on upgrading it once i get more money, to eliminate some of the disadvantages you listed. As for LIDAR guided missiles. Thats heat guided?

For my jet fighters i am not even worried. They can use the same missile avoidance techniques as Su-27 and Su-37, so no trouble there. Plus stealth jet fighters use a hit and run strategy. I come up from behind, they don't see me on their radar, i shoot them down with the missiles, and run away. Whats the problem?

If i want a dog fight i don't need stealth at all.

Even still, IRL I'm not worried. Russia can't aford the Su-35 Flanker let alone heavy stealth bombers using this information. Hell they can't even afford to keep the Tu-160s in non-rust shape.

Even still, IRL I'm not worried. Russia can't aford the Su-35 Flanker let alone heavy stealth bombers using this information. Hell they can't even afford to keep the Tu-160s in non-rust shape.

Well thats gonna change soon, since we are getting a lot of money lately. Selling stuff to India, plus our overall budget 500 % in last two years and keeps growing. So in a decade or so we will be able to afford everything we need. Plus i am not Russia and thanks to people who funded me, i have a lot money. Plus we don't even need bombers. A missile shot from Akula class boat can reach Washington in 43 minutes, and it can be charged with a nuke. Plus we have lots of ground nuclear launchers and a bunch of smaller submarines. Plus that new missile Russian federation jsut succesfulyl tested and already paid for them to be integrated into Russian military. Voyaka missile, it is made to penetrate US anti-missile defense system. Its actually one of the most advanced missiles on earth at this point.

It is if i put it on a supersonic bomber. Anyways, i am planning on upgrading it once i get more money, to eliminate some of the disadvantages you listed. As for LIDAR guided missiles. Thats heat guided?

No. LIDAR stands for Light Detection and Ranging. It uses optics to track and target an object. The trail of particles that would follow a plasma shielded aircraft would look like a bundle of Christmas tree lights. If you tried to do a strike against me, the Black Arrow SAM I use would rip the planes you use to shreds, easy.

Aside from that, the bistatic phased-array RADARs I use on all my fighters are more than capable of achieving stealth-burn through at roughly 300 km, far enough for me to react to the discovery and fire off a volley of Eagle XLRAAMs.

Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Chuvashia Republic: 7,065.67
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Falkland Islands (east): 2,550.21
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Orenburg Oblast: 77,050.03
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Sverdlovsk Oblast: 75,212.70
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 1,004,014.71


Yeah Cotland he's right. Just recently, I think with the past claims you went over 500,000.

Yeah. I asked you for a overview several times, so that I could see how much I had...

Let me think a little about it, see which ones I want to keep.. OK? I'm allowed a little over 500K, right?

No. LIDAR stands for Light Detection and Ranging. It uses optics to track and target an object. The trail of particles that would follow a plasma shielded aircraft would look like a bundle of Christmas tree lights. If you tried to do a strike against me, the Black Arrow SAM I use would rip the planes you use to shreds, easy.

Aside from that, the bistatic phased-array RADARs I use on all my fighters are more than capable of achieving stealth-burnthrough at roughly 300 km, far away enough.

Isn't that a bit god modding? Also those LIDAR guided missiles are not exactly standard issue are they?

Isn't that a bit god modding? Also those LIDAR guided missiles are not exactly standard issue are they?

Not really, considering all of my fighters are ridiculously expensive (About 120 mil-each). LIDAR-guided AAMs are in use by pretty much every single nation I know.

Well thats gonna change soon, since we are getting a lot of money lately. Selling stuff to India, plus our overall budget 500 % in last two years and keeps growing. So in a decade or so we will be able to afford everything we need. Plus i am not Russia and thanks to people who funded me, i have a lot money. Plus we don't even need bombers. A missile shot from Akula class boat can reach Washington in 43 minutes, and it can be charged with a nuke. Plus we have lots of ground nuclear launchers and a bunch of smaller submarines. Plus that new missile Russian federation jsut succesfulyl tested and already paid for them to be integrated into Russian military. Voyaka missile, it is made to penetrate US anti-missile defense system. Its actually one of the most advanced missiles on earth at this point.

You need to read more about the Voyaka. It's just a few more decoys. When it comes to advanced looked to the Peacekeeper. You may be able to hit Washington from bases in Russia with Akula launched missiles but they'll miss by a mile or two from the target so unless there is a 5 mT warhead, it'll miss and 43 minutes is plenty of time to evacuate the higher command. How many active Akula's are there even? 2 or 3? The Russian navy is in such shambles that I would put more $ on the French navy right now. And the US ABM system will be able to tell decoys from real missiles once its finalized. About the only shot you guys have is the Satan though you retired that and the FOBS but that is long since gone.

Yeah. I asked you for a overview several times, so that I could see how much I had...

Let me think a little about it, see which ones I want to keep.. OK? I'm allowed a little over 500K, right?

7,500 more...for some reason I thought you were over 500m people...my bad...

You need to read more about the Voyaka. It's just a few more decoys. When it comes to advanced looked to the Peacekeeper. You may be able to hit Washington from bases in Russia with Akula launched missiles but they'll miss by a mile or two from the target so unless there is a 5 mT warhead, it'll miss and 43 minutes is plenty of time to evacuate the higher command. How many active Akula's are there even? 2 or 3? The Russian navy is in such shambles that I would put more $ on the French navy right now. And the US ABM system will be able to tell decoys from real missiles once its finalized. About the only shot you guys have is the Satan though you retired that and the FOBS but that is long since gone.

OOC: Hehe, Each akula can shoot out a total of 200 nuclear warheads. And we have free. Plus Voyka can reach Washington in much less then 43 minutes, i was talking about our older missiles then i was saying that. Also Voyka will make your nuclear defense program useless, while ours is jsut as good as yours (it was a joint development between our two countries)

Not really, considering all of my fighters are ridiculously expensive (About 120 mil-each). LIDAR-guided AAMs are in use by pretty much every single nation I know.

Well considering that i am a poor 62 million in population, nation i don't think i have any business going against you anyways. As for those missiles. As i said if we use hit and run and they are a nation without radar such as yours then they are ashes before they know it.

OOC: Hehe, Each akula can shoot out a total of 200 nuclear warheads. And we have free. Plus Voyka can reach Washington in much less then 43 minutes, i was talking about our older missiles then i was saying that. Also Voyka will make your nuclear defense program useless, while ours is jsut as good as yours (it was a joint development between our two countries)

Quality trumps quantity.

Quality trumps quantity.

But in Russia's case. We got both.

Plus we are developing a new maneuvarable warhead.

But lets end this debate, it really has no relevance to this forum.

OOC: Hehe, Each akula can shoot out a total of 200 nuclear warheads. And we have free. Plus Voyka can reach Washington in much less then 43 minutes, i was talking about our older missiles then i was saying that. Also Voyka will make your nuclear defense program useless, while ours is jsut as good as yours (it was a joint development between our two countries)
hey hey hey, are we talking Washington D.C. here? Are you threatening us?

hey hey hey, are we talking Washington D.C. here? Are you threatening us?

Yeah in fact i myself own a couple of nukes and an Akula class submarine in real life. :rolleyes:

Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 457,162.96


The Cottish claims. According to my math and Excel, they are under 500K.

OOC: I'm no expert on submarines, but isn't the Akula CCCP's answer to the 688? Which makes it an attack submarine, not a ballistic missile submarine like the Typhoon.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

The reasons you lost your claims were made to you.

First off you had claims in other Earths and were informed via TG that if you did not respond by a certain day you would loose all E2 claims. That was in excess of a month ago. Additionally, your account showed signs of only small periods of activity. So you were informed and you were notified. Additionally, there is nothing more to discuss.

Um... I did respond and did post in this thread. In addition, none of my claims in other Earths were ever confirmed, so the issue on that matter is moot.

OOC: I'm no expert on submarines, but isn't the Akula CCCP's answer to the 688? Which makes it an attack submarine, not a ballistic missile submarine like the Typhoon.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I'm no sub expert either, but isn't the 688 equipped with cruise missiles? And if the Akula is the answer to the 688, it's probably equipped with cruise missiles as well.

The Akula is considered by some experts as better than the early version of the Los Angeles Class, but inferior to the later versions. From my understanding, the Akula does carry cruise missiles.

OOC: I'm no expert on submarines, but isn't the Akula CCCP's answer to the 688? Which makes it an attack submarine, not a ballistic missile submarine like the Typhoon.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Akula is a typhoon class submarine (NATO classifcation), the biggest one on earth. Can hold up to 20 missiles, each containing 10 nuclear warheads.

The Akula is considered by some experts as better than the early version of the Los Angeles Class, but inferior to the later versions. From my understanding, the Akula does carry cruise missiles.

You mind providing a source?

Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 457,162.96


The Cottish claims. According to my math and Excel, they are under 500K.

Some of the stuff you claimed is already owned by other nations. Like Ivanovo oblast.

You mind providing a source?

Just search online...

Akula is a typhoon class submarine (NATO classifcation), the biggest one on earth. Can hold up to 20 missiles, each containing 10 nuclear warheads.

Negative http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/akula/

The Akula is the mainstay subsurface superiority submarine vessel class, aka attack sub.

However they do have up to 12 torpedo launched Granat class missiles...according to my source.

Just search online...

i am not that interested. Exept how the hell is it inferior if it still got greater capacity, and the range depends not on the sub, but on the missile?

Because the improved version of the 688 has better sonar and is much quieter. In a sub vs. sub battle, the quieter you are, the better it is.

And the Seawolf was quieter underway then all previous ones (nuclear that is) were docked.

Urban myth Im sure, but you get the point.

Because the improved version of the 688 has better sonar and is much quieter. In a sub vs. sub battle, the quieter you are, the better it is.

Why would you use a nuclear sub packed with ballistic intercontinental nuclear warheads in a Sub vs. Sub battle? For that purpose you use hunter/killers also some of the Russians subs may not be as quite as american coutnerparts, but they are better constructed and less sinkable, plus we do have silent subs.

All American attack subs carry cruise missiles, except for the diesel submarines.

FYI, American attack submarines are employed in a plethora of tasks besides hunting ballistic missile submarines, including launching Tomahawk missile strikes and the insertion of special forces.

And yes, the Russian submarines may be able to go deeper and be faster than American submarines, but because if shoddy or loud nuclear reactor, it can be detected and swiftly neutralized by American attack submarines.

All American attack subs carry cruise missiles, except for the diesel submarines.

Same with all russian subs. But no one is gonna put an Akula against an attack sub. Its jsut not its purpose. Its purpose is to nuke america, and it can very well accomplish that while being docked in Kursk.

Why would you use a nuclear sub packed with ballistic intercontinental nuclear warheads in a Sub vs. Sub battle? For that purpose you use hunter/killers also some of the Russians subs may not be as quite as american coutnerparts, but they are better constructed and less sinkable, plus we do have silent subs.

Well Boomers are quieter than attack subs, attack subs are meant as an inexpensive light combat sub so the Boomers 'shouldnt' have to deal with enemy subs. However neither side built a boomer that couldnt kill other subs.

Same with all russian subs. But no one is gonna put an Akula against an attack sub. Its jsut not its purpose. Its purpose is to nuke america, and it can very well accomplish that while being docked in Kursk.

I think you are mixing up the Akula with the Typhoons, Oscar IIs, and Deltas.

Same with all russian subs. But no one is gonna put an Akula against an attack sub. Its jsut not its purpose. Its purpose is to nuke america, and it can very well accomplish that while being docked in Kursk.

An Akula is an attack submarine. The most modern Russian ballistic missile submarine are submarines of the Typhoon.

Anyway, I think this is a debate for a different thread, so let's make one and let this one stay on topic.

An Akula is an attack submarine. The most modern Russian ballistic missile submarine are submarines of the Typhoon.

Akula is a typhoon class submarine, Ruskaya Akula (russian shark) is just a nickname given to it in the Russian navy.

Nvm, i just checked, we talking about two different subs. I was talking about Typhoon class sub that was named Ruskaya Akula (we have 3 of those, 200 nukes each), you talking about an SSN Akula attack sub.

Um... It is a common misconception that the Akula is just the Typhoon, but in reality, the Akula is an attack submarine of separate design and class from the Typhoon.

Go here (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/akula/).

Um... It is a common misconception that the Akula is just the Typhoon, but in reality, the Akula is an attack submarine of separate design and class from the Typhoon.

Go here (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/akula/).

Nvm, we're both right. Its not a misconception, its just that Typhoon subs were nicknamed Russian Shark by the Russian navy.2 And there is also an SSN Akula attack sub, which is not a nickname but an actual class.

Dunno where you read that, but the akula class has nothing to do with the typhoon class. The names of the ships are irrelevent (Typhoons didnt have names that I know of anyway).

Dunno where you read that, but the akula class has nothing to do with the typhoon class. The names of the ships are irrelevent (Typhoons didnt have names that I know of anyway).

My uncle served on a Typhoon class sub Russian Shark, thats just how we call it in Russia.

Well, there have been American (actually NATO) nicknames/designations for Russian submarines, while the Russians probably have their own ship class names...

I just saw a documentary (in russian, on a russian tv station, because i am in Russia.) a while ago and it was comapring Russian Typhoon class subs with your counterpart, i remembered how my uncle called it and how its actually called over here and somehow it all mixed up in that void that is my brain, so i started thinking that Americans call our Typhoon subs Russian Sharks, this is an end of an 8 month journey.

Some of the stuff you claimed is already owned by other nations. Like Ivanovo oblast.

Yeah. By me. Check the first page.

Anyways guess who has the world's largest stockpile of chemical weapons. Guess who has about 25 million soldiers in army reserve, guess who has 21000 tanks and 6784 aircrafts, guess which nation is most protected against aircrafts. Yeap its Russia, plus we have a roughly the same amount of nukes as US. As for quantity over quality. Russian troops aren't as badly trained as you think (beliece me, i would know), and some of our machinery is superior to what US got. But lets end this discussion, we are really getting off topic.

Well, there have been American (actually NATO) nicknames/designations for Russian submarines, while the Russians probably have their own ship class names...

The NATO codename for the SSN is "Akula", and the codename for the SSBN is "Typhoon". The russians call the "Typhoon" "Projekt 941 Akula". See here (http://hazegray.org/worldnav/russia/submar.htm) for more information.

OOC: My nation is going through a civil war at this point (well sorta) so plz join in this RP.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384501

Samtonia: Okay you posted a ton of islands so let me explain this how I organized it. Anything in the Lesser Antilles is categorized as Lesser Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilles#Lesser_Antilles)....blah blah blah stuff only I need to know.

Right. that's much easier to keep track of. A lot. I was wondering how you were going to do the system, so just to be on the safe side I put down all the island names.

EDIT- Cool. The Dutch Antilles are also included there. Now, a few questions. Hogsweat, what do you have in the Virgin Islands troop-wise?

Same question to Dimmimar over Trinidad and Tobago.

Okay just to point out a few things on subs and men.

A. How often are your soldiers paid? Rarely so I wouldn't trust them not to sell those CBW to the highest bidder, especially if it's a Chechen terrorist.

B. The 688/I is much quieter than anything Russian because of one simple principle. The single propeller on the 688/I is massive thus you don't need very many revolutions to push the ship thus you churn less on the prop so it's quieter. The Russian subs, the Typhoon for instance, has 2 smaller propellers thus they need to turn more and faster, generating more noise. That is why US subs always have 1 big prop. The 688/I doing 10 knots is quieter than the Typhoon doing 5 knots. The Ohio is probably even quieter as its a boomer. Now you have 3 Typhoons (God knows how much they cost to maintain) with 20 MIRV missiles each. We have 18 Ohio's with 24 MIRV missiles each. Additionally, the Trident is more accurate than the Peacekeeper and can put its warheads within a hundred feet of the target. Therein their kiloton range (100s of KT) does as much damage as your 5 mT missile because you miss the target by kilometers.

C. The Seawolf moving at 20 knots is silent. You know why? That propulsor generates a pressure differential behind the propeller, thereby eliminating any air bubbles, making it very quiet. The Virginia NSSN incorporates this technology.

The only threat from Russia isn't them using their weapons its their shoddy pay, insecurity, and complete dissarray of the military. Like I said, those generals controlling the launch codes and access codes look to feed themselves and their families. When they aren't paid in months they look for money elsewhere. I mean for Christ's sake, Putin ordered the Red Stars to stay on the tanks because it they couldn't afford to repaint them.

US missile technology has always been more advanced. After all we got Gerring (spelling) who designed the V-2s. His design put our Saturn V into orbit and put us on the moon. His designs built our ICBMs. If you compare the CEPs of all Russian/US missiles you'll find that Russian estimates for CEP are higher than US estimates for the same missiles (we give you too much credit) and in that your estimates for our missiles are about as equal as our own. And until the Peacekeeper is fully retired (another 7 days, damn stupid policies of Clinton and Bush 1/2) and the Trident (which is not for decades) then our missile technology far exceeds yours. I doubt that "agile" missile is anything more than a 1980s idea that you finally came around to designing. That latest news wire of a new cruise missile, the Kh-555 or something like that, is really no better than the Block 0 AGM-86C missiles developed in the 1980s and used in Iraq in 1991.

I don't know where you get this money you claim 500% increase but the day the Russian military is as well-funded, advanced (we're on 5th generation technology with the F-22 and the Su-35 which you can't afford is only 4th generation if your lucky), and has some positive morale then you're not anything more than a challenge. I'd put more money on the DPRK military right now than the Russian military.

Right. that's much easier to keep track of. A lot. I was wondering how you were going to do the system, so just to be on the safe side I put down all the island names.

EDIT- Cool. The Dutch Antilles are also included there. Now, a few questions. Hogsweat, what do you have in the Virgin Islands troop-wise?

Same question to Dimmimar over Trinidad and Tobago.

I don't get it, I did a search of the entire sheet and it never said Hogs and Dimm have those territories. I'll have to take them off your list Sam. Sorry.

After all we got Gerring (spelling) who designed the V-2s.

You mean Werner von Braun? The German dude that got the Saturn V? I did a school project on the Apollo program.

You mean Werner von Braun? The German dude that got the Saturn V? I did a school project on the Apollo program.

Yes I mean him. How'd I forget that one? Sheesssh...It's all this damn area calculation!!!!

bump


Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 457,162.96


The Cottish claims. According to my math and Excel, they are under 500K.

Samtonia: Actually I shorted you on the Lesser Antilles claim. That area should be (minus Virgin Islands & Trinidad & Tobago) 2908.51 square miles. Sorry.

Cotland: Yes that change in area is fine.

Pushka: Adding the RP.

I figured that you and RomeW would do something of that nature. The whole Roman Empire lasting is awesome I have to say. If it comes down to a poll of history I'd say that the Roman Empire was the ultimate. I even mimiced some of their practices in my Kaliningrad War. I've lined the roads to Kaliningrad and inside Kaliningrad with crucifixes upon which insurgents hang and rot!

Thank you. I feel honoured that you said that.

Um... I did respond and did post in this thread. In addition, none of my claims in other Earths were ever confirmed, so the issue on that matter is moot.

Reply?

Reply?

Yes here is what happened.

So, Layarteb, what do you want from me?

There are three options.

1. Renounce Earth I claim and stay in Earth II in your full force.
2. Keep Earth I and drop to a puppet in Earth II with a 150,000 sq. mi. size limit on your claim.
3. Leave Earth II. (Though I don't want this as you are a huge member it is an option).

You never responded at all to post 208. That is why you ultimately lost your claims.

I don't get it, I did a search of the entire sheet and it never said Hogs and Dimm have those territories. I'll have to take them off your list Sam. Sorry.

I'm confused. Take what off the sheet? And I'm pretty sure Hogsweat has Virgin islands. Although youm ay have cleared it up in that post that'sup a few after this one. My sleepy brain isn't comprehending. Please explain, prety please?

EDIT- Oh, and thank you for the hard work and dedication it takes to calculate area. If I had known that was needed, I would have done it myself. So thank you!

There are three options.

1. Renounce Earth I claim and stay in Earth II in your full force.
2. Keep Earth I and drop to a puppet in Earth II with a 150,000 sq. mi. size limit on your claim.
3. Leave Earth II. (Though I don't want this as you are a huge member it is an option).

I have territory on Earth I? :eek: That's news to me...

I have territory on Earth I? :eek: That's news to me...
He told me I had Earth IV territory which I didnt :/

Thinking about it, I dont know why I renounced my Earth II claims now, since I needn't have... maybe it was just a protest at all the "you have to have everything in my thread" nonesense. Dont really remember...

Both Praetoria and FCN, when I made that post I referenced all claims in other Earths. Praetoria they had you listed in Earth IV and FCN you had pending territory in Earth I. I even provided links in the post to all Earths so that all of you could see I wasn't pulling these claims out of my ass. I didn't want either of you to leave but Praetoria you wanted to leave and FCN you never got back to me so I had to do what I did. Prae, I think it was something like that and you exclaimed "I'm done with all of the Earths!!!" And that rule was an original rule where at the time it was just Earth I and Earth II. When I saw Earth VIII, there became the need to rewrite the rule, especially because in some of those you had people with 12 million people claiming the entire country of China.

Samtonia, yes when I did the calculations I accidentally put in both the Virgin Islands and Trinidad & Tobago. My mistake. When you said that both Hogs and Dimm owned it I was shocked because I did a search of the claims list before I approved yours and didn't find them. But low and behold they were there and spelled correctly so this leads me to believe that the MS Excell search is unreliable whereas the TEXTPAD one is so from now on I'll be looking at the claims list not the master list.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/IrishRose/HolidayGifs/HAPPY-Holidays.gif

I feel the need to grant ye all a sort of holiday present. In light of Christmas, note that I am agnostic so Christmas doesn't do much for me, and because of all of the other holidays I'm going to do something that I hope I will not regret. If this present is abused I WILL REPEAL IT!!!

Instead of a 7,500 square mile buffer I will grant a 50,000 square mile buffer!! That means if you were previously limited to 500,000 square miles you could go up to 5,007,500 square miles. Now you can go up to 5,050,000 square miles.

Now in light of this generosity I don't want to see, "Well can we go up to 65,000?" because if I do, I'm going to become a jerk again.

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year

2005 is going to bring a VAST amount of changes in the world so let's just hope that we don't destroy ourselves as World War III is inevitably going to get a lot less isolated.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/IrishRose/HolidayGifs/HAPPY-Holidays.gif

I feel the need to grant ye all a sort of holiday present. In light of Christmas, note that I am agnostic so Christmas doesn't do much for me, and because of all of the other holidays I'm going to do something that I hope I will not regret. If this present is abused I WILL REPEAL IT!!!

Instead of a 7,500 square mile buffer I will grant a 50,000 square mile buffer!! That means if you were previously limited to 500,000 square miles you could go up to 5,007,500 square miles. Now you can go up to 5,050,000 square miles.

Now in light of this generosity I don't want to see, "Well can we go up to 65,000?" because if I do, I'm going to become a jerk again.

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year

2005 is going to bring a VAST amount of changes in the world so let's just hope that we don't destroy ourselves as World War III is inevitably going to get a lot less isolated.

I'm trying to provoke WWIII right now with my activities in Africa :D. That is, if DA will stop complaing about how I have no IC reason to invade, despite the fact he's letting civil war go on, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

Im in Earth 3 whats the difference between that one and this one?????!

Im in Earth 3 whats the difference between that one and this one?????!
mainly that we're older, better, more organized, and we don't allow people with land on other Earths hog land in this Earth.

Since the recent generosity from the creator of this thread exdpanded my claiming campacity , i would like to claim Irkutsk oblast and Urst-orda Okrug. I didn't do the math so if its not possible just give me as much Irkutsk as i can get. Also the rest of Krasnoyarsky Kray would be nice. Also i am building up the navy so i need Navaya Zemlya and New Syberya Islands. Can i have all of those?

Samtonia moves towards Caribbean empire! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384680)

Should be looked at by anyone who's got countries in the Caribbean.

Both Praetoria and FCN, when I made that post I referenced all claims in other Earths. Praetoria they had you listed in Earth IV and FCN you had pending territory in Earth I. I even provided links in the post to all Earths so that all of you could see I wasn't pulling these claims out of my ass. I didn't want either of you to leave but Praetoria you wanted to leave and FCN you never got back to me so I had to do what I did. Prae, I think it was something like that and you exclaimed "I'm done with all of the Earths!!!" And that rule was an original rule where at the time it was just Earth I and Earth II. When I saw Earth VIII, there became the need to rewrite the rule, especially because in some of those you had people with 12 million people claiming the entire country of China.

Oh that thing... Now that is interesting... I remember that quite well. Anyways, if you checked, I'm actually have an I.G.N.O.R.E. in place against Earth I, because NS nations are claiming countries left and right with total disregard for previous claims, i.e. they were trumping older claims in deleted threads with preposterous new claims with quick invasions.

Anyways, no worries, I'm not really interested in getting my territory back, just interested in getting this issue clarified.

Away, I go.

I'm trying to provoke WWIII right now with my activities in Africa :D. That is, if DA will stop complaing about how I have no IC reason to invade, despite the fact he's letting civil war go on, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

I'm on your side in that matter. You saw the conversation correct?

Oh that thing... Now that is interesting... I remember that quite well. Anyways, if you checked, I'm actually have an I.G.N.O.R.E. in place against Earth I, because NS nations are claiming countries left and right with total disregard for previous claims, i.e. they were trumping older claims in deleted threads with preposterous new claims with quick invasions.

Anyways, no worries, I'm not really interested in getting my territory back, just interested in getting this issue clarified.

Away, I go.

No I did not see the ignore. I just checked the claims tally posts as they were the most up-to-date. You should probably inform them of that because IIRC they still have you listed. Sad to see you go, wish you would have responded way back when, I didn't want to give away your territory. Sorry.

Samtonia: Added the RP.

Pushka: I can't find Ustorda at all. Do you have it spelled right? Also you're way over the 550,000. You'll have to trim what you want out of this and such.


Evenkia Okrug: 296,372.00
Irkutsk Oblast: 296,487.80
Krasnoyarsk Krai (part): 274,132.50
Novaya Zemlya: 35,000.16
Total: 901,992.46

I'm on your side in that matter. You saw the conversation correct?



No I did not see the ignore. I just checked the claims tally posts as they were the most up-to-date. You should probably inform them of that because IIRC they still have you listed. Sad to see you go, wish you would have responded way back when, I didn't want to give away your territory. Sorry.

Samtonia: Added the RP.

Pushka: I can't find Ustorda at all. Do you have it spelled right? Also you're way over the 550,000. You'll have to trim what you want out of this and such.


Evenkia Okrug: 296,372.00
Irkutsk Oblast: 296,487.80
Krasnoyarsk Krai (part): 274,132.50
Novaya Zemlya: 35,000.16
Total: 901,992.46


Okay give me Novaya Zemlya and another part of Krasnoyarsk Kray (not all of it, just whatever i can have after i got Novaya Zemlya). okay?

Krasnoyarsk Krai (part): 214,132.50

Y'know, tis a bit late but.


Wouldnt it be a grand Idea to split Indiainto states like in Real Life? After all, India has ALOT of state's, each with their own culture. Ask any Indian and they'll tell you that their state is probably the best. Like the U.S. And Mexico.

Of course, it's a bit late seeing how I already own all of it, but I still think it's a good idea. Just in case i want to get rid of some land and stu... I mean so more land is available for new people :D

http://www.indianfoodsco.com/Classes/map_de.gif
A map of the states.

Krasnoyarsk Krai (part): 214,132.50

I know, give me a part of that part, so everything adds up to 550000. How about that?

You're all settled in Push, that much is how much you'll get.

TLS if you want I can do that but would you be willing to try to reclaim everything?

You're all settled in Push, that much is how much you'll get.

TLS if you want I can do that but would you be willing to try to reclaim everything?

Wait so what do i get?

Wait so what do i get?
Evenkia Okrug 296,372.00
Krasnoyarsk Krai (part) 214,132.50
Novaya Zemlya 35,000.16
Total 545,504.66

Evenkia Okrug 296,372.00
Krasnoyarsk Krai (part) 214,132.50
Novaya Zemlya 35,000.16
Total 545,504.66

dandy

Alrightie. Get to 500m people and you are up to 1m square miles.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384748

North Pacific Treaty Organization Proposal Thread.

Attn Andrehervia, Nazguul, RomeW, Marmaia and Pernica.

Added

TLS if you want I can do that but would you be willing to try to reclaim everything?

Yeah. I could do that.

Besides, when it's borken up into states it is MUCH easier to RP and to give things away.

So I claim all of India(like i already do)!

Okay I'll try to add that.

Okay I'll try to add that.

Okie day!

If i were you, though, I'd do what you did for mexico and Russia.

Just a word of advice.

Oh, Lyartreb. How big is the wrangel island?

Oh, Lyartreb. How big is the wrangel island?

1,740 sq mi

fits...

1,740 sq mi

fits...

can i have it?

can i have it?

Sure.

How do you find out how big a territory is? Just so i wouldn't have to ask every time in the future.

Well, in honour of Layarteb's gracious gift, I've added to my claims:

-Gorno-Altai (all)
-Southern 40% of Altay-Krai

Usually I go to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) or I search in Google (http://www.google.com) if Wikipedia doesn't have it.

Well, in honour of Layarteb's gracious gift, I've added to my claims:

-Gorno-Altai (all)
-Southern 40% of Altay-Krai

Gorno-Altaisk is just a town
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorno-Altaisk

Altai Krai is actually a republic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Republic

with Altai you go to 492,916.02 square miles

okay

The Altai Republic is listed at 92,600 km², or 35,000 square miles (I believe) on the Wikipedia article provided, and there is an Altay Krai- at 38,000 square miles- bordering to the west of it.

So in this case I'll just take the Altai Republic and the southern 40% of Altay Krai (15,000 square miles- 35+15=50).

65289.88 for the Krai. Odd why that never came up on teh search.

That brings you to 558,205.90. Are you sure you want me to cut out 60% of it and not just a little bit?

The southern quarter of it then.

That brings you to 558,205.90. Are you sure you want me to cut out 60% of it and not just a little bit?

Can I ask where you got that figure? Last time I remember it I had claimed three million square miles exact, and the Altai Republic isn't five hundred thousand square miles (on the Wikipedia article you provided it's listed at 92,000 square kilometers).

Can I ask where you got that figure? Last time I remember it I had three million square miles exact, and the Altai Republic isn't five hundred thousand square miles (on the Wikipedia article you provided it's listed at 92,000 square kilometers).

You can tell it's late and I'm tired I put you in as Cotland.

Here is what you got total. I didn't subtract anything out of the Krai or Republic. I figured that I'd show you the whole list before that.


Adygea Republic: 2,934.38
Altai Krai: 65,289.88
Altai Republic: 35,753.06
Antarctica (part): 236,487.63
Arizona (north): 68,403.60
Arkansas: 53,178.62
Astrakhan Oblast : 17,027.11
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Ingushetia Republic: 1,544.41
Italy: 116,305.60
Jarvis Island: 1.74
Jordan: 35,637.23
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: 4,826.28
Kalmykia Republic: 29,382.37
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: 5,444.04
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Coahuila Province): 58,521.89
Mexico (Durango Province): 47,560.45
Mexico (Nayarit Province): 10,416.65
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Nevada (south): 16,585.02
Niger: 489,191.40
North Ossetia-Alania Republic: 3,088.82
Nunavut: 593,344.39
Southwest Corridor (US): 3,593.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Tuva Republic: 25,243.36
Total: 3,104,193.43

You can tell it's late and I'm tired I put you in as Cotland.

Here is what you got total. I didn't subtract anything out of the Krai or Republic. I figured that I'd show you the whole list before that.


Adygea Republic: 2,934.38
Altai Krai: 65,289.88
Altai Republic: 35,753.06
Antarctica (part): 236,487.63
Arizona (north): 68,403.60
Arkansas: 53,178.62
Astrakhan Oblast : 17,027.11
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Ingushetia Republic: 1,544.41
Italy: 116,305.60
Jarvis Island: 1.74
Jordan: 35,637.23
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: 4,826.28
Kalmykia Republic: 29,382.37
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: 5,444.04
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Coahuila Province): 58,521.89
Mexico (Durango Province): 47,560.45
Mexico (Nayarit Province): 10,416.65
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Nevada (south): 16,585.02
Niger: 489,191.40
North Ossetia-Alania Republic: 3,088.82
Nunavut: 593,344.39
Southwest Corridor (US): 3,593.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Tuva Republic: 25,243.36
Total: 3,104,193.43


Well, I apologize if I was harsh.

Anyway, not to rag on you- as you've done a great job on Earth II- but you've given me the wrong Antarctic territory. This is where I wanted it:

http://www.bortonoverseas.com/antarctica/image1/Map%20South%20Georgia%20Falklands.jpg

I think that should cover the additions. However, if it's too much trouble for you then I'll just take the southern 25% of the Altai Krai

Well, I apologize if I was harsh.

Anyway, not to rag on you- as you've done a great job on Earth II- but you've given me the wrong Antarctic territory. This is where I wanted it:

http://www.bortonoverseas.com/antarctica/image1/Map%20South%20Georgia%20Falklands.jpg

I think that should cover the additions. However, if it's too much trouble for you then I'll just take the southern 25% of the Altai Krai

eek. lemme check it out. possible yes. harsh though? I didn't notice any harshness.

RomeW. How does this sound?


Adygea Republic: 2,934.38
Altai Krai: 65,289.88
Altai Republic: 35,753.06
Antarctica (part): 182,294.18
Arizona (north): 68,403.60
Arkansas: 53,178.62
Astrakhan Oblast : 17,027.11
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Ingushetia Republic: 1,544.41
Italy: 116,305.60
Jarvis Island: 1.74
Jordan: 35,637.23
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: 4,826.28
Kalmykia Republic: 29,382.37
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: 5,444.04
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Coahuila Province): 58,521.89
Mexico (Durango Province): 47,560.45
Mexico (Nayarit Province): 10,416.65
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Nevada (south): 16,585.02
Niger: 489,191.40
North Ossetia-Alania Republic: 3,088.82
Nunavut: 593,344.39
Southwest Corridor (US): 3,593.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Tuva Republic: 25,243.36
Total: 3,049,999.99

RomeW. How does this sound?


Adygea Republic: 2,934.38
Altai Krai: 65,289.88
Altai Republic: 35,753.06
Antarctica (part): 182,294.18
Arizona (north): 68,403.60
Arkansas: 53,178.62
Astrakhan Oblast : 17,027.11
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Ingushetia Republic: 1,544.41
Italy: 116,305.60
Jarvis Island: 1.74
Jordan: 35,637.23
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: 4,826.28
Kalmykia Republic: 29,382.37
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: 5,444.04
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Coahuila Province): 58,521.89
Mexico (Durango Province): 47,560.45
Mexico (Nayarit Province): 10,416.65
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Nevada (south): 16,585.02
Niger: 489,191.40
North Ossetia-Alania Republic: 3,088.82
Nunavut: 593,344.39
Southwest Corridor (US): 3,593.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Tuva Republic: 25,243.36
Total: 3,049,999.99


*thumbs up* Perfect.

By the way, I should mention- to everyone here- that I will be gone for six days, so leave my territory alone. I also won't be able to participate in the alliances but once I get back I will. Thanks.

Goodie. Bed time for me so anything else will happen tomorrow.

Just like to remind everyone I am interested in assuming control of Triancia's territory if they don't return in 3 days.

Pantheaa would like to expand its empire through colonization

We would like to claim Bouvet Island and Mauritius Island(not to be mistaken with mauritania)...if they're not taken....i don't believe they are....unless my eyes suck

We mostly plan to use it as a trading post and military base(s)

Mauritius Island- http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mp.html


Bouvet Island-
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bv.html

I've done some checking, and I don't think that anyone has claimed this one...

I'd like to claim Bjørnøya (Bear island), located right outside Norway.

http://www.freewebs.com/cotland/bjørnøya.JPG

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:

Pantheaa: Yes those are fine you can claim them both.

Cotland: That is part of Svalbard, which is North Germanian.

Just like to remind everyone I am interested in assuming control of Triancia's territory if they don't return in 3 days.

3 days to go.

Mordvinia republic
Chuvashia republic
Ul'yanovsk oblast

I own these, but the map show that they are free. Can you fix/explain it?

Also, taking in account your most grasious christmas "present", I'd like to claim
Sverdlovsk Oblast: 75,212.70 Sq. Miles.
That should bring my grand total to: 532,375.66 Sq.Miles, well within the bounds.

Mordvinia republic
Chuvashia republic
Ul'yanovsk oblast

I own these, but the map show that they are free. Can you fix/explain it?

Also, taking in account your most grasious christmas "present", I'd like to claim
Sverdlovsk Oblast: 75,212.70 Sq. Miles.
That should bring my grand total to: 532,375.66 Sq.Miles, well within the bounds.


Bashkortostan Republic: 55,444.27
Chuvashia Republic: 7,065.67
Egypt (northeast): 23,352.26
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Franz Josef Land: 6,229.37
Ivanovo Oblast: 9,266.45
Kirov Oblast: 46,641.14
Kostroma Oblast: 23,166.13
Mari El Republic: 8,957.57
Mordovia Republic: 10,115.88
Nizhny Novgorod Oblast: 29,691.26
Penza Oblast: 16,679.61
Perm Oblast: 62,008.01
Permyaka Okrug: 12,652.57
Ryazan Oblast: 15,289.65
Samara Oblast: 20,695.08
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Sverdlovsk Oblast: 75,212.70
Tambov oblast: 21,313.03
Tatarstan Republic: 26,254.95
Udmurtia Republic: 16,254.90
Ulyanovsk Oblast: 14,401.61
Vladimir Oblast: 11,196.96
Vologda Oblast: 3,166.04
Yaroslavl' Oblast: 13,899.68
Total: 539,441.33

Ok, but still within bounds.

Oh, by the way, I've just checked and Singapore hasn't been taken. If you don't mind, Layarteb, can I have that?

Oh, by the way, I've just checked and Singapore hasn't been taken. If you don't mind, Layarteb, can I have that?

Sure

Okay... No more claims from me!

umm...........Houston, we have a problem
Kahta and I both have Nebraska claimed on the list, which of us really has it?

He has Kansas sorry.

He has Kansas sorry.

Hey man, how big are the New Syberian Islands?

Hey man, how big are the New Syberian Islands?

29,000 square km
11,196.96 square miles

Are ye working on that India map Layarteb, or should I do it or something?

If i have to do it, what program do ye use? GIMP, Photoshop, or paint?

Are ye working on that India map Layarteb, or should I do it or something?

If i have to do it, what program do ye use? GIMP, Photoshop, or paint?

I'm working on it via Macromedia Fireworks. It'll be a few more hours.

FYI

Two of my older RP-stories have been moved and will be continuing.

The Knight of Dark Chaos (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384906)
The Layartebian Chronicles (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384916)

May I make a claim?

FYI

Two of my older RP-stories have been moved and will be continuing.

The Knight of Dark Chaos (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384906)
The Layartebian Chronicles (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384916)

I don't get something about your RPs. Are they just stories or do you expect over people to get involved?

May I make a claim?

Are you in any other Earths? If not then yes.

Pushka: They are really stories but occassionally people will get involved. It's alright if they do as long as they don't come out of left-field in it.

I do not have any other earth claim. I'm alittle uncertain as to what is left to claim. From the maps it only seems to be antartica or alittle piece in africa on the westcoast near cottenmouth, I think...

Anyways if any part of western canada is inactive i'd be glad to use that or anywhere else you can suggest.

I do not have any other earth claim. I'm alittle uncertain as to what is left to claim. From the maps it only seems to be antartica or alittle piece in africa on the westcoast near cottenmouth, I think...

Anyways if any part of western canada is inactive i'd be glad to use that or anywhere else you can suggest.

In 2 or 3 days, Trianca will get the DEAT if he doesn't log in. Otherwise there isn't much left no, just a little bit here and there. Russia has some as does Antartica.

OK if that guy dont log in i'll take idaho and montana if no-one objects.

Once he goes inactive I'll post it and then its first come, first serve.

2 days to go.

Just to clarify, how much can I claim?

Ok...i'll keep watch for it...Thanks

Just to clarify, how much can I claim?

Up to 2.0m square miles.

I'm working on it via Macromedia Fireworks. It'll be a few more hours.

Fireworks?

Ne'er heard of it.

See Post 3.

Triancia go bye bye.

Idaho: 83,642.08
Minnesota: 87,013.91
Montana: 147,165.20
North Dakota: 70,761.71
South Dakota: 77,183.75
Wyoming: 97,897.75

Post three didn't gimme a clue to what fireworks was :/

Post three didn't gimme a clue to what fireworks was :/

Post three has an India map.

Sweet map, Layarteb!

In honor of it being so dang cool, I wish to give you the state of Goa, free of charge!

Thank you but I need it not. My empire is isolated in one area and I shant not overextend too far.

Thank you but I need it not. My empire is isolated in one area and I shant not overextend too far.

Oh. Ok.

Oh. Ok.

The logistics of that would be impossible. That's why I had to claim those Central American territories because NE USA to Venezuela was 2,000 miles.

The logistics of that would be impossible. That's why I had to claim those Central American territories because NE USA to Venezuela was 2,000 miles.
We think alike, I have a similar issue.

We're already extended all over North and South America, which is why I don't want to extend my power all the way across an ocean...too far away.

We think alike, I have a similar issue.

We're already extended all over North and South America, which is why I don't want to extend my power all the way across an ocean...too far away.

Yeah. Holding Venezuela, without those Central American lands would have been impossible.

My claims are pretty centralized that way. BTW check your TG.

We think alike, I have a similar issue.

We're already extended all over North and South America, which is why I don't want to extend my power all the way across an ocean...too far away.

I own Tunisia as well as South Asia, and if you didn't notice that's a long way away :D

But I don't care. Besides, the South Asian nations are all colonies, while my nation is Tunisia.

It seems consistent that for every post there are ten views. How about some of you out there viewing claim some land and get involved?

Layarteb, did you ever come to a decision concerning Decisive Action?

Layarteb, did you ever come to a decision concerning Decisive Action?

Nein.

I'd like to claim Triancia's land of Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Minnesota.

I'd like to claim Triancia's land of Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Minnesota.

We have a winner. Yes.

We have a winner. Yes.


Thanks

Nein.
Let's just boot him. He doesn't contribute anything, and I'm inclined to believe that because of his bad reputation RP-wise he only drives people away from Earth II.

Not to mention he doesn't recognize me, a fellow member of Earth II.

Let's just boot him. He doesn't contribute anything, and I'm inclined to believe that because of his bad reputation RP-wise he only drives people away from Earth II.



I'm currently in the process of working on the problem with Tyrandis, trying to get the other RPers involved in the RP online to discuss it all in a chat. Until you know all the facts, don't start speaking and making suggestions you have no right to make, you don't know... (I'd really like for you to get onto an IM function right now, so we could talk about this in real-time)

Let's just boot him. He doesn't contribute anything, and I'm inclined to believe that because of his bad reputation RP-wise he only drives people away from Earth II.

Not to mention he doesn't recognize me, a fellow member of Earth II.


Oh, I'm also inclined to believe (from what a massive outpouring of TGs and IM suggests) that I'm one of the best RPers in Earth II, and possibly one of the better ones in NS as a whole as well. Although I pride myself on modesty, so I don't thump my chest and make a point of this, except for that you made a point to say I'm an awful RPer.

Both of you enough, go to IMs or TGs. No stupid sessions here. That goes for everyone.

I'm currently in the process of working on the problem with Tyrandis, trying to get the other RPers involved in the RP online to discuss it all in a chat. Until you know all the facts, don't start speaking and making suggestions you have no right to make, you don't know... (I'd really like for you to get onto an IM function right now, so we could talk about this in real-time)

What does Tyandis and your RP have anything to do with anything?

I would love to talk, but sorry, no IM. Feel free to telegram me, however,

Oh, I'm also inclined to believe (from what a massive outpouring of TGs and IM suggests) that I'm one of the best RPers in Earth II, and possibly one of the better ones in NS as a whole as well. Although I pride myself on modesty, so I don't thump my chest and make a point of this, except for that you made a point to say I'm an awful RPer.
Hey, I think you're a good RPer too. But your philosophy (no prior notice? IGNORED) is as horrible as any n00b's. Because of that, you do have a bad reputation, and that only brings Earth II down.

Both of you enough, go to IMs or TGs. No stupid sessions here. That goes for everyone.
Sure thing.

Me want to keep the MODS away from this thread.

If anyone wants one of the Southern Indian States, I'll be more than willing to tell you the asking price for it!

.:. Late Night BUMP .:.

I would Like to claim the island chains on the sides of India, Karrati and something or another.

Back from my NS vacation. What is this I hear of WWIII on the first page of the thread? Its probably already been and gone but could someone enlighten me?

I would Like to claim the island chains on the sides of India, Karrati and something or another.

OOC: I think TLS owns it. Check post #1175

Damnit, hmm

Back from my NS vacation. What is this I hear of WWIII on the first page of the thread? Its probably already been and gone but could someone enlighten me?

Check out this thread I made: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384231

I tried to initiate a surprise offensive against DA in Africa, hoping to create a world war, but he decided to hide behind an ignore shield.

If anyone wants one of the Southern Indian States, I'll be more than willing to tell you the asking price for it!

How much for the Lakshadweep islands (the ones on the Indian south-west coast)?

OOC: The islands I asked about in the TG..

Impressive...

Impressive...
What is?

How much for the Lakshadweep islands (the ones on the Indian south-west coast)?

OOC: The islands I asked about in the TG..

Hm....

$25,000,000,000 should be enough.

Hm....

$25,000,000,000 should be enough.

If TLS accepts:

$25 billion wired to The Lightning Star for the rights of the Lakshadweep islands (32 square kilometers).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshadweep

New thread!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7815219#post7815219!

Nuclear REactor Explodes in LSian India!

New thread

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385215

Slavic Nations Agreement

Adding the RPs.

Cuise Ship Catastrophe! See the mangled hulls!
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7815693#post7815693

New RP post up.

:: Bump ::

OOC: I followed the instructions at the start of this thread and researched and found a couple of countries that are not specifically claimed by anyone. I am curious to see if anything pops up on the following countries:

Trinidad and Martinique Islands (Caribbean Sea)
Qatar (Middle East)
United Arab Emirates (Middle East)
New Mexico (North America)

If you have these areas under your thumb please let me know. I would like to arrange an invasion, etc. for expansion into this group.

Sincerely,

Hawdawg

Oh yeah for the checkers of facts here are two threads that list my stats:
Hawdawg Factbook (http://forums2.joly.co.uk/showthread.php?t=364856)
Hawdawg Military Factbook (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375438)

OOC: I followed the instructions at the start of this thread and researched and found a couple of countries that are not specifically claimed by anyone. I am curious to see if anything pops up on the following countries:

Trinidad and Martinique Islands (Caribbean Sea)
Qatar (Middle East)
United Arab Emirates (Middle East)
New Mexico (North America)

If you have these areas under your thumb please let me know. I would like to arrange an invasion, etc. for expansion into this group.

Sincerely,

Hawdawg

Oh yeah for the checkers of facts here are two threads that list my stats:
Hawdawg Factbook (http://forums2.joly.co.uk/showthread.php?t=364856)
Hawdawg Military Factbook (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375438)

Check the maps mate. I think most of them are claimed.

OOC: DA WAS DELETED! YES!

Other than that... can I have Angola, since I was in the middle of an invasion when he got axed?

i want to have some nations....in Europe maybe can i have Belgium and Luxemburg and or in Asia can i have Viet Nam??

Since DA was deleted.. could I please have Ohio and his part of Indania?

As DA was DEATed, could I have South Africa?

Hawdawg: Your research methods are flawed. All of those are claimed.

Tyrandis: Well remember when I told you that your claims were frozen due to your size. I cannot grant you this claim as it will throw you over 4.0m square miles, which is the ultimate limit. However, if you want to edit your claims to make them fit go ahead.


Angola: 481,353.60
Australia: 2,967,909.00
Dem. Rep. of Congo: 905,567.90
New Zealand: 103,737.90
Total: 4,458,568.40


Rebeled Elves: First off you need to read the first page and realize all of those are claimed. Secondly, you started Earth X and by our rules you cannot be in another Earth and still be in Earth II so a second denial.

Kahta: Yes you can have both.

Sevaris: Yes you may have South Africa.

Please note that I am claiming the following: Georgia, Mississippi & South Carolina.

PARTY IN NYC!!!!

A Gathering of Leaders (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385878)

Hey....DA is dead

I'd take the opportunity to take some land, but Layarteb beat me to it....:D

Although how much would Tennessee and Kentucky add on to me? I'm not sure if I want them yet....

Instead of playing this on the forums, how about a new region? I think that'd be quite a lot clearer.

Hey....DA is dead

I'd take the opportunity to take some land, but Layarteb beat me to it....:D

Although how much would Tennessee and Kentucky add on to me? I'm not sure if I want them yet....

You were post 1200!

Awesome.....


Brazil (north): 1,643,244.00
California (south): 80,497.08
Colombia: 439,735.60
Costa Rica: 19,729.82
Florida: 65,811.50
Mississippi: 48,473.58
Nicaragua: 49,997.91
Panama: 30,193.19
Tennessee: 42,180.50
Virginia: 42,804.06
Washington D.C.: 6.95
West Virginia: 24,250.69
Total: 2,486,924.88

Instead of playing this on the forums, how about a new region? I think that'd be quite a lot clearer.

The idea was brought up in the past but not successfully. We have a board but that's about it.

It is in the interest of the Torian Dominion to stake a claim for some of Southern Russia, if this is acceptable with all others present. We need a large enough amount of land for our military outpost, Rahab Legion (OOC: My puppet. My puppet will be needing the Earth II land, but rest assured that my main nation will not take any claims). We will pay the asking price quickly and reliably, as we have several tens of trillions of Schlangenauges (USD $1=TOR §1.16) in reserve for big-budget purchases (OOC: Haven't made any big purchases for a while, should have a lot of spare cash) such as this. We look forward to completing the transaction in a timely and agreeable manner.

Many thanks,
Leon Alexei Adler


(OOC: In case you don't want to fish through that paragraph, I'm staking a claim for whatever is available in Russia, enough for one and a half billion population, preferably in the southern regions. This will be the sole claim of my outpost, and my main nation will stake no other claim to it, aside from the fact that TOR completely owns Rahab. I was advised to stake a claim by an ally in the October Alliance.)

There's a lot of land left in Russia. Just take a peak at the map and you can see what's there. You don't have to pay any money unless you want to try to buy land from someone. But otherwise, with your population, you can claim a good portion of land.

You were post 1200!

Awesome.....


Brazil (north): 1,643,244.00
California (south): 80,497.08
Colombia: 439,735.60
Costa Rica: 19,729.82
Florida: 65,811.50
Mississippi: 48,473.58
Nicaragua: 49,997.91
Panama: 30,193.19
Tennessee: 42,180.50
Virginia: 42,804.06
Washington D.C.: 6.95
West Virginia: 24,250.69
Total: 2,486,924.88


err, I actually don't have Mississippi. So the total would be 2,416,622 with Kentucky and Tennessee...

I think I'll take it.

OOC: So, is there basically any unclaimed land left? The maps don't seem to show any. With a population of above three billion I think I could get a good chunk, I guess. Doesn't really matter where, as long as it's at least somewhat big.

2,480,053.42

With Kentucky or Tenn. I accidentally copied and pasted Miss rather than Kentucky. Ooopppssyyyy!

OOC: So, is there basically any unclaimed land left? The maps don't seem to show any. With a population of above three billion I think I could get a good chunk, I guess. Doesn't really matter where, as long as it's at least somewhat big.

Look harder (at Africa & Antartica)

In addition, can I add the Galapagas Islands (west of Colombia) to my claims?

I think I got the name right, and I checked the front page.

Oh, okay. Guess white is unclaimed :p Africa isn't big enough. Is Antarctica the same as real Antarctica? Pretty cold, that is. Because I don't really think I could place a nation there :> Otherwise I'd take the rest of it.

The nation of Hawdawg will claim Morrocco and Egypt then according to the Africa Map this territory is vacant.

-Hawdawg

Colodia: Yes those are fine. Galapagos Islands though ;).

Hawdawg: I see you've tagged Earth V for "future claims." You are aware that the rules of Earth II state that if you are in Earth II, you cannot be elsewhere.

All right, then. I couldn't get the real life Russia map and the Earth II map to match up exactly, as region names weren't written on the Earth II map, but I'll take some of that gray area in the south/south-west. Thanks in advance.

All right, then. I couldn't get the real life Russia map and the Earth II map to match up exactly, as region names weren't written on the Earth II map, but I'll take some of that gray area in the south/south-west. Thanks in advance.

Yeah it's sort of a look and match. Unfortunately the RL Russia map is a bit aged and it's unfortunately the only good one I could find. Just let me know what you want from the RL map and I can match it up with those in E2.

Just a little OOC from me...






HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :D

Attend the party Cotland. See the RPs. A Gathering of...

By the way!!!

We have far surpassed the number of replies from the original Earth II thread (972) and are fast closing in on the views (13,882).

I fancy Tver, Kaluga, Tula, Byansk, Smolensk, Lipefsk, Ryazan, Kursk, Belgorod, and that general area. If these aren't available, then I'll take Omsk, Tyumen, Kurgan, Yekatennburg, Chelyabinsk, Tomsk, Novosibirsk, the general southern area.

Attend the party Cotland. See the RPs. A Gathering of...

By the way!!!

We have far surpassed the number of replies from the original Earth II thread (972) and are fast closing in on the views (13,882).
well this IS the best damn Earth on the site. Technically, it's the best damn RP Earth in the universe.

Hawdawg: I see you've tagged Earth V for "future claims." You are aware that the rules of Earth II state that if you are in Earth II, you cannot be elsewhere.

Yes I did tag Earth V, and if I am allowed a land claim in this thread the tag in Earth V will remain just that a tag.

-Hawdawg

I fancy Tver, Kaluga, Tula, Byansk, Smolensk, Lipefsk, Ryazan, Kursk, Belgorod, and that general area. If these aren't available, then I'll take Omsk, Tyumen, Kurgan, Yekatennburg, Chelyabinsk, Tomsk, Novosibirsk, the general southern area.

This is what can be claimed from those listings:

Lipetsk Oblast
Tula Oblast
Omsk Oblast
Tyumen Oblast
Kurgan Oblast
Svedlovsk Oblast
Chelyabinsk Oblast
Tomsk Oblast
Novosibirsk Oblast

Yes I did tag Earth V, and if I am allowed a land claim in this thread the tag in Earth V will remain just that a tag.

-Hawdawg

Very well but Morocco is taken so you will have western Egypt.

If DA isnt remade, I would like Mississipi and his former claims in Egypt.

Western Egypt it is then.

If DA isnt remade, I would like Mississipi and his former claims in Egypt.

Mississippi has been claimed by me. Egypt has been claimed by Hawdawg.

Er, ok sry

This is what can be claimed from those listings:

Lipetsk Oblast
Tula Oblast
Omsk Oblast
Tyumen Oblast
Kurgan Oblast
Svedlovsk Oblast
Chelyabinsk Oblast
Tomsk Oblast
Novosibirsk Oblast


I'll take:

Omsk Oblast
Tyumen Oblast
Kurgan Oblast
Svedlovsk Oblast
Chelyabinsk Oblast
Tomsk Oblast

Thanks much. Now all I need is another endorsement on my October Alliance membership.

I'll take:

Omsk Oblast
Tyumen Oblast
Kurgan Oblast
Svedlovsk Oblast
Chelyabinsk Oblast
Tomsk Oblast

Thanks much. Now all I need is another endorsement on my October Alliance membership.

Alright one last thing, as this arose with RomeW. What nation will you be acting and posting under? TOR or Rahab Legion? It can't be either or but rather just one.

Most likely under TOR, seeing as Rahab is merely an outpost of the Torian Dominion. I might forget to login as TOR once or twice, but I won't make a habit of that. I only used the Rahab account today because I forgot to logout of it.

Most likely under TOR, seeing as Rahab is merely an outpost of the Torian Dominion. I might forget to login as TOR once or twice, but I won't make a habit of that. I only used the Rahab account today because I forgot to logout of it.

Very well. It's yours. I'm just going to get in the shower and start some laundry so your claims won't show up for a little while but they're set.

Okay then, but can I lay claim to a naval base at Luanda?

Okay then, but can I lay claim to a naval base at Luanda?

Sure

In the wake of DA being deleted (*cough*), I'd like to claim South Carolina and Georgia.

Old Yerffej is made new again :D

In the wake of DA being deleted (*cough*), I'd like to claim South Carolina and Georgia.

Old Yerffej is made new again :D

Check your TG.

Both SC and Georgia will be transfered to Yerffej.

In addition, North Germania will be recieving Mississippi after negotiations.

This is what can be claimed from those listings:

Lipetsk Oblast
Tula Oblast
Omsk Oblast
Tyumen Oblast
Kurgan Oblast
Svedlovsk Oblast
Chelyabinsk Oblast
Tomsk Oblast
Novosibirsk Oblast

Excuse me, but I believe that I own Sverdlovsk....

New thread

Hawdawg extends diplomatic relations with Mediterranean States (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385930)

-Hawdawg

Can I claim the former DA South Africa so Swaziland won't be totally isolated down there? I'm past my 100M margin of error.

Wait a sec... Somebody has it already. Darn. Land went really fast.

Can I get Angola then?

I would like to claim Fabus Island, the manmade island off the coast of Layartebian Mississippi. If this is impossible, I would like the island to be given to The Directorate as a whole to server as a base for Directorate forces.

Cotland: Yes you do. Sorry. I just went over the map of Russia with a fine tooth comb and it's fully up-to-date now. All of those claims and then de-claims and re-claims threw everything off. It's set now.

The Order of Reptiles: Sorry about Sverdlovsk Oblast, it was controlled by Cotland.

Hawdawg: Adding the RP now.

Binthor: Angola yes, just minus Luanda.

Itinerate Tree Dweller: There's an RP for that island that you'll want to see as soon as I post it in a minute or ten.

Fabus Island exists no more...

The Obliteration of Fabus Island (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385947)

OOC: New thread please!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385952

It's basically a notice that I've brutally slaughtered over 60,000,000 Decisive Action citizens in my war on Angola. YAY!

OOC: New thread please!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385952

It's basically a notice that I've brutally slaughtered over 60,000,000 Decisive Action citizens in my war on Angola. YAY!

Okay, it's been added.

I just wanted to post that I am buying the southern two Indian States/provinces (Kerala and Tamil Nadu) for 300 billion (most of my budget, but still fine on NS economy), he should post soon to confirm.
Also he is keeping the districts of Nagapattinam, Thruvarar, and Thangavur.

To everybody else, i would like to put nebraska for sale, ill put up a separate thread soon

I just wanted to post that I am buying the southern two Indian States/provinces (Kerala and Tamil Nadu) for 300 billion (most of my budget, but still fine on NS economy), he should post soon to confirm.
Also he is keeping the districts of Nagapattinam, Thruvarar, and Thangavur.

To everybody else, i would like to put nebraska for sale, ill put up a separate thread soon

Would you like to trade Nebraska for Kansas? On the North America map, it shows me as owning Nebraska.

Colodia and I have discussed and we have a policy on ignoring in terms of Earth II. {No not another rule but this one makes sense just like the rest}

In light of recent actions and the liberal use of the ignore cannon, there comes the necessity for the following. Ignoring attacks, events, and so on and so fourth because they do not coincide with your personal storyline, because you do not want to take losses, or because you don't feel like it just doesn't cut it. Godmodding is an acceptible use of the ignore cannon as are time commitments elsewhere (school, work, wife, boyfriend, husband, girlfriend, etc.). Additionally, if the time committment excuse is used, we'd better not see you posting RPs at a rate of 5 posts per hour.

If you are country A and someone else is country B. If country B moves against country A for any reason whatsoever or no apparent reason because remember ladies and gentlemen, you don't really need a reason to go to war. And you choose to ignore country B because it doesn't matter what they do or think guess what, you're in the wrong. NS and RL are not independent. So when things happen in Germany in real life just because France doesn't want that to happen doesn't mean they can completely ignore the situation.

When you have an invading army on your border you cannot just throw out an ignore. Sorry but that is the way it goes. No ifs, ands, buts or arguments.

Colodia and I have discussed and we have a policy on ignoring in terms of Earth II. {No not another rule but this one makes sense just like the rest}

In light of recent actions and the liberal use of the ignore cannon, there comes the necessity for the following. Ignoring attacks, events, and so on and so fourth because they do not coincide with your personal storyline, because you do not want to take losses, or because you don't feel like it just doesn't cut it. Godmodding is an acceptible use of the ignore cannon as are time commitments elsewhere (school, work, wife, boyfriend, husband, friend, etc.). Additionally, if the time committment excuse is used, we'd better not see you posting RPs at a rate of 5 posts per hour.

If you are country A and someone else is country B. If country B moves against country A for any reason whatsoever or no apparent reason because remember ladies and gentlemen, you don't really need a reason to go to war. And you choose to ignore country B because it doesn't matter what they do or think guess what, you're in the wrong. NS and RL are not independent. So when things happen in Germany in real life just because France doesn't want that to happen doesn't mean they can completely ignore the situation.

When you have an invading army on your border you cannot just throw out an ignore. Sorry but that is the way it goes. No ifs, ands, buts or arguments.

I likes it. Thanks for clearing that up.

It was due time.

Colodia and I have discussed and we have a policy on ignoring in terms of Earth II. {No not another rule but this one makes sense just like the rest}

In light of recent actions and the liberal use of the ignore cannon, there comes the necessity for the following. Ignoring attacks, events, and so on and so fourth because they do not coincide with your personal storyline, because you do not want to take losses, or because you don't feel like it just doesn't cut it. Godmodding is an acceptible use of the ignore cannon as are time commitments elsewhere (school, work, wife, boyfriend, husband, girlfriend, etc.). Additionally, if the time committment excuse is used, we'd better not see you posting RPs at a rate of 5 posts per hour.

If you are country A and someone else is country B. If country B moves against country A for any reason whatsoever or no apparent reason because remember ladies and gentlemen, you don't really need a reason to go to war. And you choose to ignore country B because it doesn't matter what they do or think guess what, you're in the wrong. NS and RL are not independent. So when things happen in Germany in real life just because France doesn't want that to happen doesn't mean they can completely ignore the situation.

When you have an invading army on your border you cannot just throw out an ignore. Sorry but that is the way it goes. No ifs, ands, buts or arguments.

Sounds good to me.

Orginal Post by Layarteb
Colodia and I have discussed and we have a policy on ignoring in terms of Earth II. {No not another rule but this one makes sense just like the rest}

In light of recent actions and the liberal use of the ignore cannon, there comes the necessity for the following. Ignoring attacks, events, and so on and so fourth because they do not coincide with your personal storyline, because you do not want to take losses, or because you don't feel like it just doesn't cut it. Godmodding is an acceptible use of the ignore cannon as are time commitments elsewhere (school, work, wife, boyfriend, husband, girlfriend, etc.). Additionally, if the time committment excuse is used, we'd better not see you posting RPs at a rate of 5 posts per hour.

If you are country A and someone else is country B. If country B moves against country A for any reason whatsoever or no apparent reason because remember ladies and gentlemen, you don't really need a reason to go to war. And you choose to ignore country B because it doesn't matter what they do or think guess what, you're in the wrong. NS and RL are not independent. So when things happen in Germany in real life just because France doesn't want that to happen doesn't mean they can completely ignore the situation.

When you have an invading army on your border you cannot just throw out an ignore. Sorry but that is the way it goes. No ifs, ands, buts or arguments.

Sounds easy enough to abide by. Simple rules are the best things to follow.
Thank you for also taking time constraints into account, some people like myself do not "live" on the computer and must split time between wife, soon to be kids, and work.

-Hawdawg

In light of the shame and insanity he has brought to the situation, I have asked Kahta to leave Earth II. If anyone disagrees with what I have done feel free to telegram me. I'm not going to hold it against anyone for their opinion.

So his lands are now free, except Ohio since I might as well claim something I can keep ;). Anyhow yeah..

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Be safe and good luck in '05.