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Quest for Atlantis on Sci-Fi looks pretty damn good.

Countdown to Doomsday was pretty good too!

FYI PLEASE VOTE HERE

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=370

The Bank of Saint Lazare is now open for new international accounts:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490907

At whatever point we decide we're done with Operation Preparation, Cymrea and Squornshelous have come to an agreement:

To Squorn: All of Cymrea's arctic islands from the former Huahin.

To Cymrea: Alaska (part), south of the 60th Parallel (Yukon/BC/Alaska border)


Squornshelous to confirm.

At whatever point we decide we're done with Operation Preparation, Cymrea and Squornshelous have come to an agreement:

To Squorn: All of Cymrea's arctic islands from the former Huahin.

To Cymrea: Alaska (part), south of the 60th Parallel (Yukon/BC/Alaska border)


Squornshelous to confirm.

Done and done.

The Bank of Saint Lazare is now open for new international accounts:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490907

How's 9 trillion to get you started off :)?

Who could pass that up? Can I join you?

Sorry only room for me and the head man on the helicopter. Sucks cause we have to fly out of Louisiana to the Platform then will fly back into Galveston next week. Gonna have to drive back to Louisana (5 hours) to get truck then drive home. But it will be worth it. Gonna break down my fishing pole and tote it with me. I can fish when we aren't on a 12 hr. shift.

I am actually thankful this came along my wife has been hired but she won't get her first check until 30 days after school has started (End of Sept.). Sucks to be a new hire. But at least I can payoff some bills when this job is over.

-Hawdawg

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Kreynoria [Post 15141]: Claims for Huahin added.
Neuvo Rica [Post 15142]: Claim for Huahin added.
Dooms [Post 15143]: D13 removed.
Cotland [Post 15144]: Claim for Huahin added.
Hirg/DP [Post 15178]: Trade done.
ALM [Post 15230]: Thread added.
Haw [Post 15247]: D13 added.
Squorn/Cymrea [Post 15254]: Land traded.






Huahin RPs: I updated the claims list with all of the claims. Did I miss any?
Soccer Leagues: To those running the leagues, how about I create subforums on the off-site boards for everything?




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sure :) make subforums :)

How's 9 trillion to get you started off :)?

best thing about it, you get to keep it :) and deposit more of your GDP when the next year comes around :)

and it'll all count [albeit for E2 anyways...]

That was a mere 10% of what money we have in our sitting budget, which we use to buy military stuff :).

Subforums is yay. No need to make one for the Cymrean Premiership, since most if not all my teams will join the North American league (whatever it ends up being named) as soon as we have it up a running.

Separate subforums for each league though...r-i-v-a-l-r-y!

I've lost interest in this thread because of the size of my country. You may now consider it up for grabs. I mean where do you hide Red September in a
country so small?

I say we keep Kormanthor's land (wherever it is) for Nikolas the Great, who wants to get back into E2.

I say we keep Kormanthor's land (wherever it is) for Nikolas the Great, who wants to get back into E2.

I don't see Kormanthor's name on the list... what land did he have?

I believe it was Andorra.

That's patheticly small, a better idea would have him RPing a rebellion in Greece and fighting a huge war against Ottoman Khaif and North Germania.

OOC: No thanks, I like my Greek Land.

Id suggest Saint Lazare take it, he is undoubtly the best newcomer

Id suggest Saint Lazare take it, he is undoubtly the best newcomer

I wouldn't mind it, except what would I do with it? barter for better land?

hmmm.................

Yes! We're catching up to that god-damned White Tower!


(No thanks to me really:( I need to be more active)

what's the number now?

Just a few hundred posts!

I know someone who'd be interested in Andorra.

Anyone have Leclercs and Mirage airplanes [not that I need the airplanes yet...]?

I can sell them to you if you need.

where's your storefront? I only have a small order of Leclercs for my armored battalions...

where's your storefront? I only have a small order of Leclercs for my armored battalions...

They aren't on the storefront, just TG me quantities and I'll give ya a price.

lovely :confused:


Well, I've got one active army armored battalion, so that will need 20 for that one.

I've got a gendarmerie armored battalion, so that will need 10.

In all, 30 Leclerc tanks.

Why use French gear? Why not man up and sell US or Brit gear

'cuz he's a frenchman...! ;)

My M2032 looks like the Leopard 2A6 but otherwise it'll kick all arse.

Going off for a week to San Jose tomorrow. I'll post in the OPBT thread after I get back, now that I've had a chance to discuss peace terms with Doom.

'cuz he's a frenchman...! ;)

ooohhh Alif est francais? Il habite en France? Moi, j'adore cinema de France. J'ai regarde Fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain et Un long dimanche de fiancailles recemment.

Alors, Pardon moi francais. Je suis parle et ecrire francais tres mal!

ooohhh Alif est francais? Il habite en France? Moi, j'adore cinema de France. J'ai regarde Fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain et Un long dimanche de fiancailles recemment.

Alors, Pardon moi francais. Je suis parle et ecrire francais tres mal!

je le regard, et pour votre information, je ne suis pas français...je le parle seulement.

mais comme un pays francophone, je crois qu'il est droit que j'utilise l'equipage française, n'est-ce pas? En tout façon, je ne crois pas que je ferai la guerre.

That reminds me why I never took French beyond year 9. We should all speak German, now there's a language.

Has anyone claimed Fernando De Noronha Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_de_Noronha) yet?

That reminds me why I never took French beyond year 9. We should all speak German, now there's a language.

A good germen film is Run Lola Run, Downfall is also pretty good it's about the last days of Adolf Hitler.

A good germen film is Run Lola Run, Downfall is also pretty good it's about the last days of Adolf Hitler.
Lola Rennt and Der Untergang? Good films, although I thought that Good-Bye Lenin is a good film too.

La Haine is an excellent French film. And apparently this new one called 36 is like a French HEAT. German films are ok, Downfall is a classic, and I've seen a bit of Goodbye, Lenin!.
South Korean films are good though, particularly Taegukgi and R*Point.

La Haine is an excellent French film. And apparently this new one called 36 is like a French HEAT. German films are ok, Downfall is a classic, and I've seen a bit of Goodbye, Lenin!.
South Korean films are good though, particularly Taegukgi and R*Point.

Chocolat and Delicatessen are good too :p

je le regard, et pour votre information, je ne suis pas français...je le parle seulement.

mais comme un pays francophone, je crois qu'il est droit que j'utilise l'equipage française, n'est-ce pas? En tout façon, je ne crois pas que je ferai la guerre.

yjdjdof gg fjdnf fjdf dj djspen dje ejaodbcisnsa.

A cookie to the first one who can figure out what I'm saying below.

Kan dere være så vennlige å holde denne tråden engelskspråklig? På forhånd, takk.

Can anyone show me the link to the thread on english speaking. Thank you.

???

Has anyone claimed Fernando De Noronha Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_de_Noronha) yet?

I tried... Rome said it was his.

Run Lola Run was the first 'artsy' movie I ever saw obligatory on the part of my sisters. Apparently I liked it.

WHAT THE F**K! DAMN IT, ITALY WON....DAMN THE FRENCH TO HELL! me upset...

I'm upset too... but it was a good game until Zidane decided to play with the Italians...

I'm upset too... but it was a good game until Zidane decided to play with the Italians...
Well Zidane has a history of gettig a bit upset..and I belive that Italian was trash talking to him and he cracked...shit happens.

My area of the Bronx is all Italian and Spanish and going up & down East Treemont Road right now are like 60 cars with Italian flags. On the plus side the Italian girls hanging out the sunroofs and windows have got some big boobies :).

FYI: TOA alliance members have begun taking deliveries of something uber.

Well Zidane has a history of gettig a bit upset..and I belive that Italian was trash talking to him and he cracked...shit happens.
Regardless of provocation (Materazzi didn't just trash-talk him, he physically dragged him too). What he did was inexcusable and he got what he deserved. It's a shame that his last match ever will be remembered as the match where he got a red card instead of scoring France's goal...

Regardless of provocation (Materazzi didn't just trash-talk him, he physically dragged him too). What he did was inexcusable and he got what he deserved. It's a shame that his last match ever will be remembered as the match where he got a red card instead of scoring France's goal...
Indeed..how true...way go..be remember has the dude that could have got goal for France, if he stay and held back his anger..

Regardless of provocation (Materazzi didn't just trash-talk him, he physically dragged him too). What he did was inexcusable and he got what he deserved. It's a shame that his last match ever will be remembered as the match where he got a red card instead of scoring France's goal...

I suppose the real question will be -

who gets France's fire [if any at all]? Trézéguet for missing that goal or Zidane for that flagrant red card [it was well-deserved, albeit undesired]

I suppose the real question will be -

who gets France's fire [if any at all]? Trézéguet for missing that goal or Zidane for that flagrant red card [it was well-deserved, albeit undesired]
The former.

FYI: TOA alliance members have begun taking deliveries of something uber.

Crud........

"deliveries of someething uber"? how many guesses do we get?

You have one guess:

To take advantage of said guess invade any of my Caribbean islands.

:D

http://www.khattam.com/wallpapers/sports/italy.jpg

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :D

I'm glad Germany won third, at least. I didn't even watch the World Cup match, cuz I just don't feel either Italy or France. Good on Italy, though, I guess. We can maybe console ourselves that the team who beat Germany deserved the Cup.

Lay: Just for map clarification, I only received the chunk of Alaska right next to BC, the part that reaches down the coast. The rest still belongs to Squorn.

My precious Portugal only got to 4th place :(

However, considering their PAST World Cup performances, they exelled by leaps and bounds. And it's not like France took them down easily (although, I have to say, German did thoroughly beat them. They didn't whip them, so to speak, but they still soundly beat 'em).

Ah, well. There's always 2010!

Haha.

I don't fucking care, Italy won.

Zidane, thank you :-).

Lay: Just for map clarification, I only received the chunk of Alaska right next to BC, the part that reaches down the coast. The rest still belongs to Squorn.

Eh just draw a map or something...Those wierd ass map edits suck.

Haha.

I don't fucking care, Italy won.

Zidane, thank you :-).

Poor way for a guy to end his career though, and I'd say that Italy's win was probably the only consolation in what was a pretty boring tournament. Very few surprises, one "quasi" surprise team (Ghana), fewer goals and more random refereeing than Serie A. Still, I'll be celebrating this for weeks- my background's Italian (and I'm technically also an Italian citizen), so this is very sweet.

Goes right up there with Barcelona's victory in the Champion's League Final. A very good year for soccer indeed. :D

Anybody ever seen Havoc? It's some wierd movie, pretty good, dark. Anne Hathaway doing some non-Princess Diary acting there, it's great. It never was in the theaters though but I just saw it, pretty good!

Anybody ever seen Havoc? It's some wierd movie, pretty good, dark. Anne Hathaway doing some non-Princess Diary acting there, it's great. It never was in the theaters though but I just saw it, pretty good!

Stealing my thunder?

A good germen film is Run Lola Run, Downfall is also pretty good it's about the last days of Adolf Hitler.

I've seen Downfall, but not the other one, I guess I'll put it on my list.

Eh just draw a map or something...Those wierd ass map edits suck.

No worries...I'll update my "Map of Cymrea" in my sig tomorrow to include the bit of Alaska. That kind of hyperaccuracy in your map isn't really required, anyway.

Some news today:

Shamil Basayev (Russia's Most Wanted man, and the terrorist behind Beslan, among other things) was killed overnight in Ingushetia.

A Building collapsed in NYC, on the East Side, after an explosion. Tony Snow says terrorism isn'y likely.

And lastly, Japan is mulling over the possibility of a strike against North Korea, I say go ahead.

For more info:

www.foxnews.com

Im beginning to think we should slowly start to push Earth II into PMT, because technology has totally stagnated and its starting to get a bit repetetive, if we move slowly into PMT we can do interesting stuff involving orbital warfare and large scale lunar colonisation

http://www.khattam.com/wallpapers/sports/italy.jpg

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :D
W00t3h! Makes me proud to be of Italian ethnicity, and makes me somewhat care about that wierd sport the rest of the world seems to love.

So Doom...could you draw me up a tank? I asked a while ago and you were just going away so you asked me to give you some time to think on it. What do ya say?

Im beginning to think we should slowly start to push Earth II into PMT, because technology has totally stagnated and its starting to get a bit repetetive, if we move slowly into PMT we can do interesting stuff involving orbital warfare and large scale lunar colonisation

I disagree. Some equipment in use is MT+1 which is fair enough, but PMT? This is EII, not star wars.

So Doom...could you draw me up a tank? I asked a while ago and you were just going away so you asked me to give you some time to think on it. What do ya say?
I told you already, I didn't draw it, that was Soviet Bloc.

I disagree. Some equipment in use is MT+1 which is fair enough, but PMT? This is EII, not star wars.

Hence the term orbital warfare, think a shuttle with a torpedo launcher or a crude partical cannon, thats the sort of techlevel im talking about, the sort of stuff that is technically plausible within current technology, and Lunar Colonisation is within our grasp, all it takes is extreeme funding and that is something we can provide

No PMT. Its for nerds. Its crap. Its useless. Its un-RPable to any real extent.
Do I really have to point out any more problems about PMT.
Also, Lunar Colonisation is entirely FT, its not even feasable with PMT. I recall we've had this argument before. The outcome will be the same, so drop it.

Going away until August, so put me on D13 mode. Sorry to all the peeps I'm RPing with. Don't expect a post tonight, because I just got back from having a rootcanal and my jaw hurts worse than France's pride right now.

No PMT. Its for nerds. Its crap. Its useless. Its un-RPable to any real extent.
Do I really have to point out any more problems about PMT.
Also, Lunar Colonisation is entirely FT, its not even feasable with PMT. I recall we've had this argument before. The outcome will be the same, so drop it.

Lunar colonisation isn't entirely FT; I've had a lunar base since a LONG time ago, and no one was bitching then. We have the technology to build small outposts on the moon (or at least we will by 2020). I'm not saying I have huge-ass cities on the moon (a few research stations, including a small mining station to see what elements are on the moon, no more than 100 people are on our giant, rocky satellite). I mean, if NASA says we can have outposts on the moon by 2020, and they have nowhere near the budget my space-agency has, then I have to say its possible.

I've always gone with technology that will be feasible by 2020 (although it should be 2025, since I mean thats in 20 years of now, but some people just like using piece-of-shit 80's weapons). If we don't allow for innovations, then whats the point of even being on E2? We'll NEVER develop new weapons. Not everyone here is here just so that we can RP people beating the shit out of other people; I like to RP technological advancements, and science. A huge portion of the Carthaginian budget went into space and science research (like $1 trillion), and the Nepalese government has kept similar high spending.

Its just that technology is standing still, which just seems utterly ridiculous.
And to many outsiders everyone who does nationstates is a nerd.

Technology isn't standing still though. Take a look at the various orders of battle on Lay's forums - new and improved weaponry is coming out all the time.

Technology isn't standing still though. Take a look at the various orders of battle on Lay's forums - new and improved weaponry is coming out all the time.

Those are all fairly minor improvements, we havent seen a major advance like ETC or something like that because we have reached the boundries of what you define as MT and Earth II has been there since its creation, its almost as if we are in a new dark age when a group of powerful individuals refuses to allow us ot advance any further

I've seen Downfall, but not the other one, I guess I'll put it on my list.

Run Lola Run made me think I was on LSD the first time I've watched it.

It is better to watch it in German with or without Subs.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491256
A cross between crimson tide and Dr Strangelove

I have one concern id like to voice about PMT: The reason things seem to be standing still is because everyone has the latest and greatest...which is the same thing that would happen if we moved to the future. Whats to stop a nation from RP the latest it would give nobody an advantage and cause more OOC frustration.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491256
A cross between crimson tide and Dr Strangelove

ehhhhh... that first post was all SIC, right?

I have one concern id like to voice about PMT: The reason things seem to be standing still is because everyone has the latest and greatest...which is the same thing that would happen if we moved to the future. Whats to stop a nation from RP the latest it would give nobody an advantage and cause more OOC frustration.

I don't personally have a problem wit PMT.

My only serious qualm is someone thinking that the "best" in technology is always bought with more money, when in truth it takes time and innnovation to discover things. If anyone decides to go PMT, it will take a long time to get to the "best". For all points and purposes, if technology is at its "best" for MT, then we should already going into early-early PMT stuff.

ehhhhh... that first post was all SIC, right?
Yes

Im beginning to think we should slowly start to push Earth II into PMT, because technology has totally stagnated and its starting to get a bit repetetive, if we move slowly into PMT we can do interesting stuff involving orbital warfare and large scale lunar colonisation

Nope.

Nope.

You're no fun, lay :(

FSB reports that Shamil Basayev is dead. They reported Maskhadov's death like 19 times before it actually happened so I take this with some skepticism but if it is true then it would be a blow to the Chechens, albeit like Zarqawi, he'd be replaced.

FSB reports that Shamil Basayev is dead. They reported Maskhadov's death like 19 times before it actually happened so I take this with some skepticism but if it is true then it would be a blow to the Chechens, albeit like Zarqawi, he'd be replaced.

For every one we kill theres one to replace him.

Lay check your storefront.

For every one we kill theres one to replace him.

Wrong!

For every one we kill theres ten to replace him.

Wrong!

For every one we kill theres ten to replace him.

you're all wrong!

Basayev is a super-duper mathematical algorithm that infinitely spawns with every shuttering moment, such that he can die, but immediately another 619283495881 spawn in his place -with a third of that number being killed immediately by some equation in place [to which that third spawns their own set of 619283495881 incarnations... and yeah, don't ask me how 619283495881 divides evenly into 3 anyway...]. And the remaining living Basayevs are endowed with the ability to count to 1629 in 5 seconds, dumbfounding any Russian soldier in the proximity of 3000 leagues for 17 seconds before having their heads exploded by a subliminal message that broadcast the same count to 1629 in 5 seconds with each head explosion, just until the population of Basayevs is indeterminately 5727 times the population of Russians dead.

Yea, there's power in mathematics... somewhere...

So it's like Doom on Nightmare mode?

ehh, if that's scary, I don't know what is...

So it's like Doom on Nightmare mode?

Crud your right.

So it's like Doom on Nightmare mode?

Er...

Well, if he is going into Nightmare mode, I guess I should fulfill my year and a half long promise...

Er...

Well, if he is going into Nightmare mode, I guess I should fulfill my year and a half long promise...

Que?

They should make a Doom with all the scary world leaders in it and have like Kim Jong-Il, Fidel, and Saddam respawning like Imps!

you're all wrong!

Basayev is a super-duper mathematical algorithm that infinitely spawns with every shuttering moment, such that he can die, but immediately another 619283495881 spawn in his place -with a third of that number being killed immediately by some equation in place [to which that third spawns their own set of 619283495881 incarnations... and yeah, don't ask me how 619283495881 divides evenly into 3 anyway...]. And the remaining living Basayevs are endowed with the ability to count to 1629 in 5 seconds, dumbfounding any Russian soldier in the proximity of 3000 leagues for 17 seconds before having their heads exploded by a subliminal message that broadcast the same count to 1629 in 5 seconds with each head explosion, just until the population of Basayevs is indeterminately 5727 times the population of Russians dead.

Yea, there's power in mathematics... somewhere...

It doesn't.

6+1+9+2+8+3+4+9+5+8+8+1=64, one more than 21x3 (63). Every number divisible by 3 can have its digits individually added to a number also divisible by 3 (27/2+7=9; 51/5+1=6, etc.); and, for the record, 619,283,495,881/3=206427831960.3333.... So your formula does not work.

Unless Shamil Basayev can change the powers of mathematics like Big Brother could (2+2=5, remember?). Now that IS scary...

Que?

They should make a Doom with all the scary world leaders in it and have like Kim Jong-Il, Fidel, and Saddam respawning like Imps!

LOL

Bjorn needs to go on D13 till mid-August.

The problem is that terrorists like Basayev and Zarqawi are not scared. Thats why someone will step up behind them, albeit their successors will be less effective, much less effective in the case of these two.
For instance, why do Palestinians still lob rockets at Israeli settlements? Because they aren't scared to do so. I say make them scared. While Stalin was a moustache loving crack-pot idiot, he did say one thing I believe in, "Death solves all problems- no man, no problem." These days nobody has the balls to make terrorists piss themselves, if Israel simply killed every Palestinian man, women and child, then who the hell is left to oppose them? Even if they don't kill everyone, it makes the survivors damm scared that they and their families would be next.
For instance, Bin Laden has a daughter, a whore who lives in NYC (last time I checked), why don't the Americans just grab her and use her for leverage? Things like that work, they're the oldes tricks in the book and they are the tricks that people like Basayev and Bin Laden do not expect civilized countries to use. Thats why I love Guantanamo, but it isn't enough.

Que?

They should make a Doom with all the scary world leaders in it and have like Kim Jong-Il, Fidel, and Saddam respawning like Imps!
LOL

After seeing Team America for the zillionth time, the idea of hordes of Kim Jong-Ils trying to kill me only makes me laugh...

LOL

After seeing Team America for the zillionth time, the idea of hordes of Kim Jong-Ils trying to kill me only makes me laugh...

But that would be a cool game :).

I really oughta work on doing something here...

Que?

They should make a Doom with all the scary world leaders in it and have like Kim Jong-Il, Fidel, and Saddam respawning like Imps!


He thought you were talking about Doomingsland.

I really oughta work on doing something here...

You went D12 along time ago. And your land was taken away.

Its funny because Ladens neice or what have you isnt all that bad looking either. She was on a show too i think.

The Manaus Airshow (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11339886#post11339886)
^
Here's the RP I was talking about

@USB: Bin Laden's niece is pretty damn hot - you should try googling her.

If I wanted to look at whore's I could go elsewhere.

It doesn't.

6+1+9+2+8+3+4+9+5+8+8+1=64, one more than 21x3 (63). Every number divisible by 3 can have its digits individually added to a number also divisible by 3 (27/2+7=9; 51/5+1=6, etc.); and, for the record, 619,283,495,881/3=206427831960.3333.... So your formula does not work.

Unless Shamil Basayev can change the powers of mathematics like Big Brother could (2+2=5, remember?). Now that IS scary...


I know that... the funny thing was that I actually added the "1" on the end just so it wouldn't... that was the whole point of the whole thing in the first place... :rolleyes:


The problem is that terrorists like Basayev and Zarqawi are not scared. Thats why someone will step up behind them, albeit their successors will be less effective, much less effective in the case of these two.
For instance, why do Palestinians still lob rockets at Israeli settlements? Because they aren't scared to do so. I say make them scared. While Stalin was a moustache loving crack-pot idiot, he did say one thing I believe in, "Death solves all problems- no man, no problem." These days nobody has the balls to make terrorists piss themselves, if Israel simply killed every Palestinian man, women and child, then who the hell is left to oppose them? Even if they don't kill everyone, it makes the survivors damm scared that they and their families would be next.
For instance, Bin Laden has a daughter, a whore who lives in NYC (last time I checked), why don't the Americans just grab her and use her for leverage? Things like that work, they're the oldes tricks in the book and they are the tricks that people like Basayev and Bin Laden do not expect civilized countries to use. Thats why I love Guantanamo, but it isn't enough.

Unless you like the idea of terrorizing terrorists, that's not going to work very well. Because what you sponsor is something short of killing every single resistor. Modern civilization banks its ideals inn justice and equality, so simply killing every who doesn't agree with you is not going to solve any problems - it only helps to deepen an illusion that you are right and they are wrong.

The problem with people like Zarqawi and Basayev is that they don't believe that the world accepts them, and rather than try to force their way by non-violent means, they are duking it the old-fashioned way in blood. They have to make themselves stand out to make the world recognize them as legitimate people. It doesn't help that most of the politics in the world only help to confirm their beliefs, by driving them underground and forcing them into bunkers where they must then fight for their lives, for the little dignity that they think that they have left from when they started it all.

Sometimes, we just need a big tea party to remind us that most of what we do is quite pointless.


Read Les Miserables, and you'll see what I mean.

My new Factbook!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11187344#post11187344

About Bin Laden's niece i happen to think thats a great deal, for America at least. I mean here we are hunting her uncle or whatever yet she still has the oppurtunity to live her life because she is free in the USA thus making Bin Laden look like a god damn idiot.

She actually supports him. She should be shot.

You can sermonize about 'justice and equality' all you want, but UN style politics have never helped anyone, and thats a fact. Africa is worse off now than it has ever been, despite 50 odd years of UN 'help'. Terrorists operate on a whole different plane to western governments, they bank on them not stooping as low. Thats why men like Jack Idema are so effective, they go to the level of terrorists and they fight on their terms. Unfortunately the western world shuns them, and Jack Idema is now in jail in Afghanistan for eleven murders. He killed eleven terrorist sympathizers, and they punish him for it. Is that fair? Bin Laden kills 3000 innocent people and people like Idema get shut away for killing eleven terrorist sympathizers. Is that fair?

Does it justify that because the terrorists do not expect it that the United States should actively condone the tactics that it wishes to exterminate?

Now this is a debate to the fullest meaning of the word.

Has anybody looked at my fact book? :confused:

Alif, your question/statement doesn't make sense. You'd need to rephrase it.

Alif, your question/statement doesn't make sense. You'd need to rephrase it.

Very well, I shall.


Because terrorists blatantly use terror tactics, to instill fear in people, to have their recognization as an identified people of whatever their desire is to be [for Osama bin Laden, it would something on the order of purging the world of "infidels" and freeing Islam from America and its allies or like that], because they kill, destroy, and attack without regard to common civility, were the United States to react in the very manner of attack as the terrorists do - that is, round up Muslims without regard to their common civility, kill them, behead them, shout blasphemies of their faith, utterly dehumanize them to the extent where they barely have any idea of humanity - would it be right?

Is it right to do ill to someone who does you ill? Is it right to reciprocate the action of hostility to someone who first commits it?

If you say it is right, I would like to know why and under what authority you claim that this is right.


On another note, the statement that I had written had adequately fine English grammar, so there is little reason to say that it is incomprehensible.

Does it justify [inverted interrogative phrase]

that [subordinate clause starter]

because [conjunction]

the terrorists do not expect it [declarative phrase]

that [subordinate clause starter]

the United States should actively condone the tactics [declarative phrase - defines what "it" is in the previous phrase]

that [subordinate clause starter]

it wishes to exterminate [declarative phrase - defines what "tactics" is in the previous phrase]

? [because it's a question]

Pardon me if the grammar notations aren't as they should be in English, because I learned my grammar from French :D

(this isn't because I want to make Hirgizstan feel stupid - I felt that the question was a valid and concrete statement so I wished to explain how it makes a conhesive statement.)

Now this is a debate to the fullest meaning of the word.

I am only asking a question - it is hardly yet a debate [although if Hirgizstan replies as I think he will, it will become a debate...]

Meh. I find myself in agreement with Hirgy on this issue.

I think the question is how can we say we're doing the right thing, when we're just doing the same thing, but in reverse. It's very similar to the capital punishment debate. They kill us, that's bad. We kill them back, that's...good? The difference is in perspective and since it is in our nature to polarize, look after our own, and despise those who don't share our view, each side will always feel justified however right or wrong. Debate is pointless in the final equation. Results are all that will ever matter. Civilization is a social construct. War is a deep and basic part of human nature.

Were anyone on this forum heinous enough to believe that the terrorists have a point - there I go polarizing - I'm sure they might make some rather interesting points, however strenuously we might disagree. By strenuous, of course, I mean with missiles.

I just busted some serious hump in the North American League thread. Took me nearly all day to get caught up. *whew*

Given the nature of E2 and RPing in general, the NAL will be going at a more sedate pace. Steady, but neither overwhelming nor boring.

Shoo-shoo! Go see the pretty things I did! :D

EDIT: Lay, I updated my Cymrea map in my sig. It shows the chunk of Alaska I got from Squorn, if and when you ever need it.

I think the question is how can we say we're doing the right thing, when we're just doing the same thing, but in reverse. It's very similar to the capital punishment debate. They kill us, that's bad. We kill them back, that's...good? The difference is in perspective and since it is in our nature to polarize, look after our own, and despise those who don't share our view, each side will always feel justified however right or wrong. Debate is pointless in the final equation. Results are all that will ever matter. Civilization is a social construct. War is a deep and basic part of human nature.

Were anyone on this forum heinous enough to believe that the terrorists have a point - there I go polarizing - I'm sure they might make some rather interesting points, however strenuously we might disagree. By strenuous, of course, I mean with missiles.

I have my doubts as to whether war is a deep and basic part of human nature, since it has been revealed that humans can exist in peaceful societies without knowledge of war and its atrocities. If war were a part, then I don't think we'd find ourselves seeking peace when we could succomb to basic desires and wage war all that we want. Besides that, I am a human - I don't desire war in its absolute forms. It may be that the anomaly is me, but I doubt that very much as well.

I would say more and I probably should, but I'm tired and I don't see my being tired as anyway for me to offer any real answer to the statement. Quite honestly, if humans decide that it's back to blood wars, then they kiss my kind good-bye.

I just busted some serious hump in the North American League thread. Took me nearly all day to get caught up. *whew*

Given the nature of E2 and RPing in general, the NAL will be going at a more sedate pace. Steady, but neither overwhelming nor boring.

Shoo-shoo! Go see the pretty things I did! :D

EDIT: Lay, I updated my Cymrea map in my sig. It shows the chunk of Alaska I got from Squorn, if and when you ever need it.

Okay. By any chance do you know the square miles of that? (LOL)

NEW COMPANY THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sundassala Corporation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491429)

Please post comments and buy products.

Hey and nobody has said anything about my factbook yet?

Okay. By any chance do you know the square miles of that? (LOL)

You. Bastard. :p

I don't offhand, but I'll see if I can't work it out, or at least get fairly close.

So tired. Going to bed.

Guys, this isn't the General forum. If you want to debate about terrorism in the real world, go do it there, not here.

Erk... I hope we EIIers aren't getting a reputation amongst you mods.

:: sigh ::

All OOC chatter to off-site.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=385

Sombody Comment On My Factbook Please. Your Silence Is Perplexing!!!!!!!!!

And my CORPORATION FACTBOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Change the link from what you have it to this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491429

This way it goes to the thread and not an individual post within it.

Change the link from what you have it to this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491429

This way it goes to the thread and not an individual post within it.

Thanks.

News alert from Dweladelfia Prime (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11346524&postcount=17)

New developments in Ride the Lightning.

see signature for details

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491511

Fox News thread.

Guys, this isn't the General forum. If you want to debate about terrorism in the real world, go do it there, not here.

Pardon me - I was a little infuriated, but I will make certain that I do not become heated in this forum again.

Lay you said yuou wanted a free trade agreement with me post the request in my Factbook.

Alif Laam Miim check your tgs and your bank.

Pardon me - I was a little infuriated, but I will make certain that I do not become heated in this forum again.

We've had worse in the past, it's weird how it's only detected when we are actually debating something that isn't a load of BS. (albeit OOC)

FOX News Update (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11347792&postcount=8)

Lay you said yuou wanted a free trade agreement with me post the request in my Factbook.

No I said I wanted a trade agreement with the option for the FTA in the future.

No I said I wanted a trade agreement with the option for the FTA in the future.

Oh ok. Just post the request in my factbook thread.

Alif Laam Miim check your tgs and your bank.

checked and done

according to todays featured report, Hirgizstan is 102719th out of 102719 nations boasting the most liberalized lands. :D

67,890th for me. That must be because I have a lot of minimum wage/labor laws.

So do you want me to make that thread lay?

Legend

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Kormanthor [Post 15263]: Okay.
Neuvo Rica [Post 15287]: Fernando de Noronha is a special municipality (distrito estatal) of the Brazilian state of Pernambuco. Whomever has that has the island chain.
Cymrea [Post 15309]: Map adjusted.
Cotland [Post 15326]: D13 added.
Spizania [Post 15332]: Thread added.
Neuvo Rica [Post 15359]: Thread added.
DP [Post 15362]: Thread added.
DP [Post 15375]: Thread added.






Andorra: Free Claim.
Estonia: Who had Estonia again? Wasn't it Bjornoya?




Last Update: Page 1,018
Current Update: Page 1,02

I would love to claim Andorra and get a foothold in Europe. Or it is being reserved for new players? In fact I will claim it, if I can, with this post.

And yeah, Bjorn does indeed possess Estonia. It was his "how-to-execute-a-one-day-takeover thing, I think.

I would love to claim Andorra and get a foothold in Europe. Or it is being reserved for new players? In fact I will claim it, if I can, with this post.

And yeah, Bjorn does indeed possess Estonia. It was his "how-to-execute-a-one-day-takeover thing, I think.

Aye to the first & thanks for the second.

So do you want me to make that thread lay?

*Cough*

And thanks to the National Association of Counties website, I can tell you that my chunk of Alaska comes to 35,066 square miles.

And thanks to the National Association of Counties website, I can tell you that my chunk of Alaska comes to 35,066 square miles.

???!?!?!?! Where is this place Ithink I need it!

*Cough*

I'm still writting it up at the moment, some tid-bits I wanted to include in the intro post. Gimme a few...

EDIT

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491544
Earth II News Headquarters

NACo Demographics (http://www.naco.org/Template.cfm?Section=Data_and_Demographics&Template=/cffiles/counties/sqmil_srch.cfm)

This is where I found it. Just select the state and you get an interactive map with info.

NACo Demographics (http://www.naco.org/Template.cfm?Section=Data_and_Demographics&Template=/cffiles/counties/sqmil_srch.cfm)

This is where I found it. Just select the state and you get an interactive map with info.

Wow for the US you can get county sizes and the population as of 2000. I shall explore, thanks.

Attention All!

The COH is Officially The Least Liberal Nation On Nationstates, and therefore the Least Liberal in E2!

Attention All!

The COH is Officially The Least Liberal Nation On Nationstates, and therefore the Least Liberal in E2!

Quite an accomplishment I will say. Congradulations. The EOL would be up there too but we allow:

freedom of speech
freedom of press
trial by jury
labor laws
minimum wage laws
excellent education laws & system

and such... :)

plus we're agnostic to and devote no funds to religion

Well I'm under another flood & severe storm advisory right now with a tornado spotted in northern Westchester County and a whole lotta rain and thunder and lightning. I just drove to Burger King and it wasn't so bad by me, I mean there are puddles flooding places but that's about it.

Hopefully it doesn't get so terribly bad this year...a faint hope, but a fervent one nonetheless.

And your next post will be eleven thousand and eleventy-first!

eleventy, eleventy, one...

Likewise...with what's going on in Israel (go IDF)...DO we want to do something like thi sin E2 or ... well ... wtf does Israel look lke in E2, conflict wise?

SL check your TGS.

eleventy, eleventy, one...

Likewise...with what's going on in Israel (go IDF)...DO we want to do something like thi sin E2 or ... well ... wtf does Israel look lke in E2, conflict wise?

Thats a good idea FOX needs a story.

FOX Breaking News (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11349720&postcount=15)

SL check your TGS.

checked and done...

67,890th for me. That must be because I have a lot of minimum wage/labor laws.

ha, I beat you!!!

I'm 87,876th in the world!!! :p

To all parties who pwnzor Israel, what's going on with it. What's the religious war situation like?

To all parties who pwnzor Israel, what's going on with it. What's the religious war situation like?

So are we going to have an rp or what?

FOX News Update (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11350302&postcount=16)

Severe Thunderstorm Warning


SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE UPTON NY 1038 PM EDT WED JUL 12 2006
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... QUEENS COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... RICHMOND COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... KINGS COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... NEW YORK COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... BRONX COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... HUDSON COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY... BERGEN COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...

* UNTIL 1115 PM EDT...

* AT 1035 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM RIDGEWOOD TO KEARNY TO 7 MILES SOUTHWEST OF TODT HILL...OR ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM RIDGEWOOD TO SECAUCUS TO PERTH AMBOY... AND MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE NEAR... BERGENFIELD... TOMPKINSVILLE...BATTERY PARK AND MORNINGSIDE HEIGHTS BY 1045 PM. LAGUARDIA AIRPORT...JACKSON HEOGHTS... FLUSHING AND FLATBUSH BY 1050 PM. ROCKAWAY BEACH AND OZONE PARK BY 1055 PM.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM. IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH...PREPARE IMMEDIATELY FOR DAMAGING WINDS...DESTRUCTIVE HAIL... AND DEADLY CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE TO A SHELTER... PREFERABLY INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

LAT...LON 4105 7414 4049 7417 4054 7391



I would take video & pictures but my camera is charging and its furious already and it hasn't gotten here yet.

Hawdawg check your tgs.

I would take video & pictures but my camera is charging and its furious already and it hasn't gotten here yet.

I wouldnt keep your comp. on.

New Thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491586

I wouldnt keep your comp. on.

I didn't.

What a light show that was.

Sweet. Did you get any pics?

No, the camera was charging and the lightning was a little too intense to stand outside or by the window.

No, the camera was charging and the lightning was a little too intense to stand outside or by the window.

lol. geeee why not.. lol :D

lol. geeee why not.. lol :D

Because I have two large and tall poles sticking out of the ground in the backyard area behind my apartment building and both are within 10 feet. They may not be the tallest things around but with lightning that intense it definitely doesn't matter sometimes.

Quite an accomplishment I will say. Congradulations. The EOL would be up there too but we allow:

freedom of speech
freedom of press
trial by jury
labor laws
minimum wage laws
excellent education laws & system

and such... :)

plus we're agnostic to and devote no funds to religion

I have a sneaky feeling I'm the only real "liberal" nation on Earth II- I ranked 10,748th on NationStates with a nation I haven't updated in ages- at least in terms of superpowers. We established previously that I was the only "true" democracy here, so the adage "only liberal superpower" wouldn't be that surprising for me.

I'd also like to know what this Israel RP is all about- I haven't been informed of it and considering I have Israelite land, I'd like to know.

Wait, im a democracy too! Just to make a point (even know yes nobody agrees with NS stats) i have a better political freeedom rating as well as civil rights rating. I know i know, thats a childish thing to do.

Im ranked 1 out of the most liberal nations

Im a democracy but my country was formly a police state so that's why i have so much on law and order and rare political freedoms but i'll change that. Im in the middle of transitioning over to a democracy like RL russia.

The state of the union is strong!
business is blooming in Pantheaa according to NS, My unemployment was at 10 percent at one point now its at 4%.

Wait, im a democracy too! Just to make a point (even know yes nobody agrees with NS stats) i have a better political freeedom rating as well as civil rights rating. I know i know, thats a childish thing to do.

Yeah, but I'm still way ahead of you when it comes to influence- and in terms of heavyweights, I'm the only one who's liberal in what appears to be a conservative-dominated world.

Im ranked 1 out of the most liberal nations

Im a democracy but my country was formly a police state so that's why i have so much on law and order and rare political freedoms but i'll change that. Im in the middle of transitioning over to a democracy like RL russia.

The state of the union is strong!
business is blooming in Pantheaa according to NS, My unemployment was at 10 percent at one point now its at 4%.

1 out of 1 in your region (LOL).

I have a sneaky feeling I'm the only real "liberal" nation on Earth II- I ranked 10,748th on NationStates with a nation I haven't updated in ages- at least in terms of superpowers. We established previously that I was the only "true" democracy here, so the adage "only liberal superpower" wouldn't be that surprising for me.

I'd also like to know what this Israel RP is all about- I haven't been informed of it and considering I have Israelite land, I'd like to know.

Yeah I'm no democracy except for the Republics. Then they are still slightly subserviant to the Empire. What I want to know with Israel is, what is it like in E2? Is it a cluster-f*** like in real life or?

Which begs the question: How much influence does a democracy actually have in a world full of militaristic one man rule’s?

Yeah I'm no democracy except for the Republics. Then they are still slightly subserviant to the Empire. What I want to know with Israel is, what is it like in E2? Is it a cluster-f*** like in real life or?

My area's not bad...I'd say it's peaceful. Don't know about the rest- I know that there was this thing with Huahin previously, don't know how that came out.

Which begs the question: How much influence does a democracy actually have in a world full of militaristic one man rule’s?

Probably not much.

@Rome: Okay. I'm trying to find out basically how the most disputed area of the world is in E2...

Probably not much.

@Rome: Okay. I'm trying to find out basically how the most disputed area of the world is in E2...
Do we have a disputed area here?

Do we have a disputed area here?

That would be what I am trying to surmise.

Democracy is simply not working any more. In the US there are traitors (or 'Liberals' as some call them), same in Ireland only they are called Unionists and Sinn Fein- they are traitors but they are able to freely voice their thoughts and opinions and influence others with their evil. That is why Democracy is no longer working. That is why I am the least liberal nation on NS, and perhaps the least liberal person you'll ever meet.

I don't allow freedom of the press as it can spread traitorous ideas, and trial by jury seems silly to me, why can a few people (uneducated in the law) decide the fate of a criminal or someone who is not a criminal? It seems pedantic, thus it doesn't happen in the COH. I do have minimum wage laws and labor laws as well as excellent education, but thats not really liberal, thats just common sense.

And go Israel, I hope they get those soldiers back, and whup Hezzbollah while they're at it. 'Lebanon-Part Deux!' As a Zionist I am very happy that Olmert has shown he can be a strong man, this is progress.

Wow no freedom of the press, you know the framers of the American constitution wanted freedom of the press so much that they made it the first amendment. In a sense the press acts like the 4 branch of government...well in theory it's suppose to be the 4th branch, but now political parties have to much influence over certain medias and now its just yellow journalism.

without freedom of the press your nation of Hirg is noithing but an iron curtain where information about abuse or corrupition never gets out. I kind of wonder how my people living under your occupation are fairing, since i can't relay on Hirg press to tell the truth. I kind of find it interesting that their is no civil unrest in Hirg over that lack of freedom, i guess people in Hirg like to be told what to write.

I have a sneaky feeling I'm the only real "liberal" nation on Earth II- I ranked 10,748th on NationStates with a nation I haven't updated in ages- at least in terms of superpowers. We established previously that I was the only "true" democracy here, so the adage "only liberal superpower" wouldn't be that surprising for me.

I'd also like to know what this Israel RP is all about- I haven't been informed of it and considering I have Israelite land, I'd like to know.

Guess again I was in the 8,000s. lol

Pantheaa, by writing what you have written, I see you have no understanding of authoriatrianism. Nobody is told what to write, such an idea is absurd. Merely massive criticisms of the Government and articles deemed to be 'harmful' are omitted or revised. Rest assured there is plently of objective analysis of the Government and the country, but for instance, there would be no headline shouting 'WE HATE THE GOVERNMENT' etc.
Take 'The Economist Newspaper' and compare it to the NY Times, the Economist doesn't actually criticize anyone, it merely says what they believe is wrong and what should be done about it, whereas the NY Times and papers like it criticize loudly and abrasively without talking about solutions. The press in Hirgizstan is much like the Economists style, rather than the NY Times. There are also no political parties in the COH, thus no one has control over the papers besides their private owners, and they are warned by the Department of the Media to be objective and not let personal vindictiveness get in the way.

There is also no civil unrest because A: There is nothing to be unrestful about, and B: Being unrestful results in a very unpleasant end.
In the COH you can leave your house door open and your keys in your car, and no one will break into your house or take your car. Is that not the society that everyone wants to live in?

FOX News Update (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11354169&postcount=18)

Pantheaa, by writing what you have written, I see you have no understanding of authoriatrianism. Nobody is told what to write, such an idea is absurd. Merely massive criticisms of the Government and articles deemed to be 'harmful' are omitted or revised. Rest assured there is plently of objective analysis of the Government and the country, but for instance, there would be no headline shouting 'WE HATE THE GOVERNMENT' etc.
Take 'The Economist Newspaper' and compare it to the NY Times, the Economist doesn't actually criticize anyone, it merely says what they believe is wrong and what should be done about it, whereas the NY Times and papers like it criticize loudly and abrasively without talking about solutions. The press in Hirgizstan is much like the Economists style, rather than the NY Times. There are also no political parties in the COH, thus no one has control over the papers besides their private owners, and they are warned by the Department of the Media to be objective and not let personal vindictiveness get in the way.

There is also no civil unrest because A: There is nothing to be unrestful about, and B: Being unrestful results in a very unpleasant end.
In the COH you can leave your house door open and your keys in your car, and no one will break into your house or take your car. Is that not the society that everyone wants to live in?


Well thats not how im going to run my democracy...
My new democracy is going to be run on the basis of the RL libertarian party. Where the government doesn't do anything but protect the people and every liberty is granted(yes even gay marriage and pot smoking) and business can do what they please as long as it's not harmful and abusive to the workers, people can enter into private social security accounts as well. Tourist can come to my nation and eat some "brownies" visit a whorehouse and drive as fast as they want on my freeways without any government getting in thier way.

I can pull this off cause i invested so much into law and order (45% of the budget in fact) so the great unwash will have their ass in check if they get out of hand

and no "harmful" details will ever be omited or revised from the press

Pantheaa gives you a Zidane headbutt for 2000 points of damage
You have died
Pantheaa: Owned!
Hirgizstan: rez!

HAHAHAHA

Ok, that was weird.
I also doubt many people would like to invest in a country where, seemingly, people can drink, do drugs and then drive a car at 120mph. Thats not sane.
People want safety and security, as do investors.

guys... last time something like this got up, the mods got in...

take it off this forum and to the ooc chatterbox. I don't want this thread to lose out to some solid politicking [not to say I hate this stuff, but it would be better to have the opportunity to argue it out elsewhere than not at all...]

besides that, my only point with democracy is that it fails when its citizens fail.

Hawdawg check your TGS.

SB check your TGs.

Actually Alif, myself and Pantheaa were discussing ideology in our NS Nations, so I assume its ok.

Actually Alif, myself and Pantheaa were discussing ideology in our NS Nations, so I assume its ok.

That would go in the game play section.

RL news article: The Big Jump (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060713/sc_space/spacediverpreparesforbigjump)

Ramifications for our space agencies and HALO/HAHO teams?

RL news article: The Big Jump (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060713/sc_space/spacediverpreparesforbigjump)

Ramifications for our space agencies and HALO/HAHO teams?

Yeah that's a long way down. I did 13,500 feet, nevermind 130,000 feet.

Here's a little video of what I have to put up with in Belfast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyT6SHSWsvM&search=Belfast%20riot

Enjoy.

(I don't condone the rioting or anything, to me those people are terrorists.)

Here's a little video of what I have to put up with in Belfast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyT6SHSWsvM&search=Belfast%20riot

Enjoy.

(I don't condone the rioting or anything, to me those people are terrorists.)

You know a lot of people here in America (and I am one of them) refer to themselves as Irish, Italian, German, whatever, yet we're all born here. We're America but with descent and roots being what not. Yet none of us actually remember or know just what it means to be Irish. Me, I'm 50% Irish and the rest being German/Italian but that doesn't mean I'm Irish. You put up with a lot there man and my hats off to you.

Thanks dude, much appreciated.

Sundassala Mercenary Division (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491429)

Scroll down to find it.

The Empire raises some concern with the mercenary division and will be tracking arms sales to Dweladelfia prime. Should arms sold to the Dweladelfia prime government end up within the hands of mercenaries, we will be forced to cut all arms deals to prevent weapons made by the LDC from reaching terrorist groups that could use them against the Empire.

The Empire raises some concern with the mercenary division and will be tracking arms sales to Dweladelfia prime. Should arms sold to the Dweladelfia prime government end up within the hands of mercenaries, we will be forced to cut all arms deals to prevent weapons made by the LDC from reaching terrorist groups that could use them against the Empire.

The merceny Divison is owned by Sundassala Corporation, which is watched over libraly by the Imperium to make sure these things are not given to militant groups.

FOX News Update (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11358004&postcount=22)

The merceny Divison is owned by Sundassala Corporation, which is watched over libraly by the Imperium to make sure these things are not given to militant groups.

The Empire is reassured.

OOC: Officially. Actually, we're not reassured at all but that's unofficially.

The Empire is reassured.

OOC: Officially. Actually, we're not reassured at all but that's unofficially.

Would this hurt relations? And our possable FTA?

Officially, we are reassured.

Officially, we are reassured.

Oh I get it. lol

So what do you guys think of the new development in RTL with Grenada being taken under fire?

So what do you guys think of the new development in RTL with Grenada being taken under fire?

I haven't noticed Grenada, I was watching Israel go apeshit all over Lebanon. I think Israel has gone too far this time.

I haven't noticed Grenada, I was watching Israel go apeshit all over Lebanon. I think Israel has gone too far this time.

If I was taking rocket fire from groups across the border and the gov't did nothing to stop them I think that I would react in the same way. If they captured two of my soldiers, I would probably act as fierce. I got to side with them on this one. The big question looms: "Syria"?

If I was taking rocket fire from groups across the border and the gov't did nothing to stop them I think that I would react in the same way. If they captured two of my soldiers, I would probably act as fierce. I got to side with them on this one. The big question looms: "Syria"?

I disagree. Hezbollah, who are based in Lebanon kidnaps two soldiers. So Israel attacks and occupies Palestine, killing several civilians. Hezbollah launches a rocket attack on an Israeli city, so Israel bombs the runways at Beiruit International, bombs the highway that connects Beiruit with Damascus and bombs a telecommunications company that Hezbollah owns.

I agree that Israel should have the right to defend itself, but they should not be attacking civilian targets like they are. Their government is even more trigger happy than ours.

So what do you guys think of the new development in RTL with Grenada being taken under fire?

I have one response:

Possibilities....heh heh heh *rubs hands together*

Yeah the RTL thread sure is shaping up.

On another note, I doubt Syria will do anything at all, at least officially. They were bitch-slapped by the UN over their conduct in Lebanon earlier this year and in December last year, and the US has threatened them since they pulled out of Lebanon. With the USA watching, there is no way Syria will make any mistakes, but they do finance a lot of terrorist groups, so I think thats the threat from Syria. Meanwhile, I'm more interested in what Iran's up to right now. Could they have orchestrated the whole thing to take the spotlight of the UN off them? I wouldn't put it past that Nazi kidnapper they have in power.

As for Israel, I always support them 100%, and the rest of the world should aswell, for they're basically fighting the equivalent of the Taliban.

You know a lot of people here in America (and I am one of them) refer to themselves as Irish, Italian, German, whatever, yet we're all born here. We're America but with descent and roots being what not. Yet none of us actually remember or know just what it means to be Irish. Me, I'm 50% Irish and the rest being German/Italian but that doesn't mean I'm Irish. You put up with a lot there man and my hats off to you.

Would be cool to be Irish..i am.

30% Welsh
30% Slovakian
20% Italian
10% Germen
5% Greek
5 % Native American

Yea...you'll never find a person with blond hair in my blood!

my great grandparents continued to act like Italians and Slovaks till the day they died though never learned the English language. So maybe it's not for our generation, but previous immigrants that came to America always held on to their roots.

100% English, me.

^
Although I havn't actually traced my family far back enough to well and truly verify that.

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I disagree. Hezbollah, who are based in Lebanon kidnaps two soldiers. So Israel attacks and occupies Palestine, killing several civilians. Hezbollah launches a rocket attack on an Israeli city, so Israel bombs the runways at Beiruit International, bombs the highway that connects Beiruit with Damascus and bombs a telecommunications company that Hezbollah owns.

I agree that Israel should have the right to defend itself, but they should not be attacking civilian targets like they are. Their government is even more trigger happy than ours.

Actually you are forgetting the initial kidnapping. Shildat or something, was kidnapped by Hamas so the Israelis attacked the Gaza Strip where they believed he was hiding. Hezbollah responded a few days later launching dozens of artillery rockets across the border from Lebanon so a small Israeli unit when to investigate that and were ambushed, 2 people captured. Hezbollah won't give them up, so Israel attacks because Lebanon gov't has Hezbollah representatives in it and won't do crap.

Would be cool to be Irish..i am.

30% Welsh
30% Slovakian
20% Italian
10% Germen
5% Greek
5 % Native American

Yea...you'll never find a person with blond hair in my blood!

my great grandparents continued to act like Italians and Slovaks till the day they died though never learned the English language. So maybe it's not for our generation, but previous immigrants that came to America always held on to their roots.

Hello Mutt :).

I might be getting forum banned for a bit here idk. I posted a n00b-be-gone in one of the threads. Maxors will kill you is the thread go and judge for your sellf. But Questers reported me.

I think most of us have done that at one time or another, they usually give you a warning if its your first time.

The first Israeli soldier to be kidnapped was a Tanker (I think he was a Loader) called Corporal Galid Shalit. I don't think the names of the other two soldiers have been released yet.

Just to let you guys know, I might be interested in joining Earth V, principally because they've got Egypt AND Libya open, and my NS nation is a state in that region. This is me hoping that I'll still be able to keep Saint Lazare despite some rule [or decree - whatever the word is...] saying we're only allowed in one of them. Just to say this now, I sincerely promise that I will make as good [if not better :D] contributions to this RP as I have been doing as the Grand Duchy. The only reason why I wouldn't be so active is because I'm away from the computer for some reason, but otherwise, [until I get word] the ALM Emirate will be a part of EV, and the Grand Duchy of Saint Lazare will be a part of EII - neither nation intersects at all, save in the the wonderful dimension of strange and unusual things.

That said, would it be alright Lay?

Actually you are forgetting the initial kidnapping. Shildat or something, was kidnapped by Hamas so the Israelis attacked the Gaza Strip where they believed he was hiding. Hezbollah responded a few days later launching dozens of artillery rockets across the border from Lebanon so a small Israeli unit when to investigate that and were ambushed, 2 people captured. Hezbollah won't give them up, so Israel attacks because Lebanon gov't has Hezbollah representatives in it and won't do crap.

Yeah go Israel. The US should invade as well, all the US needs to do is look at how many Iraqi insurgents come from Lebanon and that would give the US enough justification to wage war on a nation that is training terrorist to kill US troops. And im 99.9% sure that Lebanon is trying terrorist for Iraq

Their is a huge difference between Hezbollah and Israel when it comes to the killing of civilians. Israel kills civs because Hezbollah hides inside apartment buildings and churches. Remember when those palestine pigs hide in the church of Bethlehem, they defecated all over the shrine where the baby Jesus was said to be born! Hezbollah kills civs on purpose.


Israel didn't bring war to Lebanon...Hezbollah did.

Well said Pantheaa.

Syria trains a lot of terrorists as well, moreso than Lebanon, but they are not all used in Iraq, most are Palestinian oriented. The US won't get involved though, whats the point when the Israelis are doing so well? I mean they managed to beat Syria, Egypt and Jordan all on their lonesome.

Yeah go Israel. The US should invade as well, all the US needs to do is look at how many Iraqi insurgents come from Lebanon and that would give the US enough justification to wage war on a nation that is training terrorist to kill US troops. And im 99.9% sure that Lebanon is trying terrorist for Iraq

Their is a huge difference between Hezbollah and Israel when it comes to the killing of civilians. Israel kills civs because Hezbollah hides inside apartment buildings and churches. Remember when those palestine pigs hide in the church of Bethlehem, they defecated all over the shrine where the baby Jesus was said to be born! Hezbollah kills civs on purpose.


Israel didn't bring war to Lebanon...Hezbollah did.

Put "Syria" in place of "Lebanon" and I'd seriously believe it.

I don't advocate war, but Syria really needs to get their diplomacy and otherwise common-sense back in order or else they're next on the list [after Iran maybe]. Israel is acting on self-defense, but they really should take concern to the welfare of the people that they are invading or else this just migh spawn into the war that ends the world [to all you armageddon folk, don't be too happy]

Before it's hot [although I don't see it coming anyway...], let's keep it cool.

I have to say I admire the Israelis as they are practically the only people who will actually go ahead and get something done when it comes to fighting terrorists.

Design of Future Dweladelfian Orbiters (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/darth_avondale/Space_Shuttle.gif)

Over the next few days (sooner the later hopefully) the USB will be revealing an entire new line of naval and aerial craft that will be replacing some older equipment.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL YALL!!!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491834

[yeah, so SL has a university now - I'm not making anything serious out it yet, but I hope to get other plans in order soon...]

Yeah go Israel. The US should invade as well, all the US needs to do is look at how many Iraqi insurgents come from Lebanon and that would give the US enough justification to wage war on a nation that is training terrorist to kill US troops. And im 99.9% sure that Lebanon is trying terrorist for Iraq

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I am Lebanese, Maronite Lebanese, I have hundreds of family and friends in Lebanon right now. You have no idea what the situation is, or has been for the past 20 years.

Lebanon was once called the Switzerland of the Middle East, it was a democratic, Christian, Western country which for the past 20 years has become a playground the the regional power players,(Israel, Syria, Iran, U.S., France exc...and yes France has HEAVY influence on Lebanon and its people).

Lebanon IS NOT training terrorists for Iraq, thats crazy. I will admit, there are terror organizations in Lebanon, under Syrian and Iranian control. Lebanon has been torn apart by over 20 years of warfare, Lebanon DOES NOT have the strength to stand up to Syria and Hezbollah and kick them out. Many Maronite Lebanese actually WANT Israel to move in troops to kick out Hezbollah, Hezbollah is a disease that is strangling Lebanon.

I Have 2 cousins that have spent time in Syrian jails for demostrating in Beruit, you do not understand the stranglehold Lebanon is under. Lebanon is in no way a terrorist state, it is a nation that is being taken advantage of.

I am Lebanese, Maronite Lebanese, I have hundreds of family and friends in Lebanon right now. You have no idea what the situation is, or has been for the past 20 years.

Lebanon was once called the Switzerland of the Middle East, it was a democratic, Christian, Western country which for the past 20 years has become a playground the the regional power players,(Israel, Syria, Iran, U.S., France exc...and yes France has HEAVY influence on Lebanon and its people).

Lebanon IS NOT training terrorists for Iraq, thats crazy. I will admit, there are terror organizations in Lebanon, under Syrian and Iranian control. Lebanon has been torn apart by over 20 years of warfare, Lebanon DOES NOT have the strength to stand up to Syria and Hezbollah and kick them out. Many Maronite Lebanese actually WANT Israel to move in troops to kick out Hezbollah, Hezbollah is a disease that is strangling Lebanon.

I Have 2 cousins that have spent time in Syrian jails for demostrating in Beruit, you do not understand the stranglehold Lebanon is under. Lebanon is in no way a terrorist state, it is a nation that is being taken advantage of.

HENCE, why I say the following:

Put "Syria" in place of "Lebanon" and I'd seriously believe it.

I've got French and Lebanese friends who said it's a pitiable hole in the Middle East. Israel blockades its ports [more than just in the past days], Syria institutes some kind of martial order, and the rest of the world watches and wonders about Lebanon. Terrorists live there because the government is too weak to do anything about it - it's been weakened by wars with Israel, itself, and Syria. I don't blame Lebanon for what's happening to them; it's something that the community has done to them [more especially Syria than any other country].

Just to let you guys know, I might be interested in joining Earth V, principally because they've got Egypt AND Libya open, and my NS nation is a state in that region. This is me hoping that I'll still be able to keep Saint Lazare despite some rule [or decree - whatever the word is...] saying we're only allowed in one of them. Just to say this now, I sincerely promise that I will make as good [if not better :D] contributions to this RP as I have been doing as the Grand Duchy. The only reason why I wouldn't be so active is because I'm away from the computer for some reason, but otherwise, [until I get word] the ALM Emirate will be a part of EV, and the Grand Duchy of Saint Lazare will be a part of EII - neither nation intersects at all, save in the the wonderful dimension of strange and unusual things.

That said, would it be alright Lay?

I think you'll be fine provided you use a puppet there and inform Layarteb. We had a rule change that addressed this previously and that's what it said, I believe.

Pertaining to the Israeli attacks on "civilian" targets, I'm fairly certain that these are all key elements in Hezbollah's movements and operations. The fact that their mainly used by civilians merely provides the dickless terrorist cowards with a convenient human shield.

What I can admire in Israel is their decisiveness. They simply don't fuck around. Their troops were captured, they bombed the shit out of every known Hezbollah target within reach. The Mossad operation after the Munich incident was seen as overstepping too. You fuck with them, and they will step on your fucking throat. That is how the only Jewish state in the world has managed to maintain their sovereignty and they apologize to no one. Nor will they, either apologize or change they way they defend themselves. They may allow the international community to cutail them for a little while during the "down time", but look at them the wrong way and it's back to the smiting.

I haven't been following too closely, but I wonder how the Israelis will/have respond(ed) to their battleship coming under fire. I imagine the Israeli commanders..."You DARE?!" (presses jolly, candy-like red button)

Indeed, reminds people of the USS Cole incident.

And by the way, Safehaven, I personally understand the Lebanese situation, I've read a lot about it. Most people aren't terrorists and most hate terrorists, they supported French, Israeli and American intervention in the 80s. Syria weakened Lebanon and thus it has become a breeding ground for Jihadist groups.

They are either with us or the terrorist...
All signs say they are with the terrorist. And thus must be punished. They are no different then the Taliban of Afgan who sheltered Osama. It's good that the Lebanon people are against Hezbollah...tell them to get off their ass kill those leaders and drag their dead corpse through the street.

btw im a democrat..so don't pin me as a bush lover. But i do support US's right to carry a big stick

I am Lebanese, Maronite Lebanese, I have hundreds of family and friends in Lebanon right now. You have no idea what the situation is, or has been for the past 20 years.

Lebanon was once called the Switzerland of the Middle East, it was a democratic, Christian, Western country which for the past 20 years has become a playground the the regional power players,(Israel, Syria, Iran, U.S., France exc...and yes France has HEAVY influence on Lebanon and its people).

Lebanon IS NOT training terrorists for Iraq, thats crazy. I will admit, there are terror organizations in Lebanon, under Syrian and Iranian control. Lebanon has been torn apart by over 20 years of warfare, Lebanon DOES NOT have the strength to stand up to Syria and Hezbollah and kick them out. Many Maronite Lebanese actually WANT Israel to move in troops to kick out Hezbollah, Hezbollah is a disease that is strangling Lebanon.

I Have 2 cousins that have spent time in Syrian jails for demostrating in Beruit, you do not understand the stranglehold Lebanon is under. Lebanon is in no way a terrorist state, it is a nation that is being taken advantage of.

Yea, apart from Jordan and Israel, Lebanon is the ONLY Middle Eastern nation that isn't a total fucking whackjob.

Sadly, Lebanon is basically Syrian. That is why so much shit happens there. As well, I think everyone here fails to realize...Pro-Israeli or not...Israel isn't bombing Lebanon, it is bombing Hezbollah. But in the crossfire, Lebanon is being hit as well. And if Lebanon was truely in anyway Terroristic or Pro-Syria/Iran, it would have started fighting Israel in this recent disturbance. But they aren't, which to tell you the truth is actually quite brave. That means, in a sense, they are defying the Syrians who would wish to see the fight the Israelis. Honestly, I am glad Israel finally has started this campaign. I hope that Jordan will join them once/if Syria is invaded.

Note -

Israel's favorite Muslim country is Jordan. In their past wars, their entire General Staff had agreed that the Jordanians were the most honourable and the 'best' of all the other nations against them. Although, they have bragged "Yet, we have always been one step ahead of the Jordanians." which if you think of it is actually a compliment, when they say they are basically lightyears ahead of the others.

Jordan also has a pro-Western Government, heavily British and American like. Infact, almost the entire populace with a actual paying Job understands and may speak English. Hell, their Queen is fucking hot! ( http://www.osteofound.org/queen_rania/images/queen_rania.jpg ).

Anyways, I know that was a bit off topic. Honestly, I'm hoping that with Hezbollah being taken care of by Israel...then America shouldn't have any worries of invading Iran.

Our greatest worry was the Hezbollah. We knew they were much more superior than Al-Qeueda, and would not hold back at all. Now, hopefully, we may fuck up Iran with-in the next year.

I hope too, because I'll be in the Army next year. I want to be a part of something, specifically fucking up Ahmadenijad.

They are either with us or the terrorist...
All signs say they are with the terrorist. And thus must be punished. They are no different then the Taliban of Afgan who sheltered Osama. It's good that the Lebanon people are against Hezbollah...tell them to get off their ass kill those leaders and drag their dead corpse through the street.

btw im a democrat..so don't pin me as a bush lover. But i do support US's right to carry a big stick

Honestly, that is quite confusing.

You haven't grasped this part yet -

Lebanese are petrified of Syrians. They know if they really ever stood up, they would have had Syrians flooding the borders and then Israelis as well. It would still be much the same as it is right now, just with Syrians and Israelis bombing everything.

Yea, apart from Jordan and Israel, Lebanon is the ONLY Middle Eastern nation that isn't a total fucking whackjob.

Sadly, Lebanon is basically Syrian. That is why so much shit happens there. As well, I think everyone here fails to realize...Pro-Israeli or not...Israel isn't bombing Lebanon, it is bombing Hezbollah. But in the crossfire, Lebanon is being hit as well. And if Lebanon was truely in anyway Terroristic or Pro-Syria/Iran, it would have started fighting Israel in this recent disturbance. But they aren't, which to tell you the truth is actually quite brave. That means, in a sense, they are defying the Syrians who would wish to see the fight the Israelis. Honestly, I am glad Israel finally has started this campaign. I hope that Jordan will join them once/if Syria is invaded.

Note -

Israel's favorite Muslim country is Jordan. In their past wars, their entire General Staff had agreed that the Jordanians were the most honourable and the 'best' of all the other nations against them. Although, they have bragged "Yet, we have always been one step ahead of the Jordanians." which if you think of it is actually a compliment, when they say they are basically lightyears ahead of the others.

Jordan also has a pro-Western Government, heavily British and American like. Infact, almost the entire populace with a actual paying Job understands and may speak English. Hell, their Queen is fucking hot! ( http://www.osteofound.org/queen_rania/images/queen_rania.jpg ).

Anyways, I know that was a bit off topic. Honestly, I'm hoping that with Hezbollah being taken care of by Israel...then America shouldn't have any worries of invading Iran.

Our greatest worry was the Hezbollah. We knew they were much more superior than Al-Qeueda, and would not hold back at all. Now, hopefully, we may fuck up Iran with-in the next year.

I hope too, because I'll be in the Army next year. I want to be a part of something, specifically fucking up Ahmadenijad.

If you go army
Become either an 88M (truck driver), or a 31B (military police), they have the most biggest chances of deploying out of any MOS. Im an 88M and i hate it cause its boring just driving trucks. I would love to get into combat arms but i want to take another semister of college so i can go directly into officer candidate school and become a LT. LOL that would be awesome if i ended up your XO!!! hahahaha

I have no problem with Jordan. But they will stay neutral at all cost. They don't want all the other arab nations despising them for helping Israel.

But in all honestly they should just bomb the entire middle east. We'll kill a couple of friends...but ohhh well at least their is no more terrorism(or people for that matter) in Iraq. I believe in the old "peace through arms" theory of the old Roman empire. That if you want peace you kill those who get in it's way.

Much of my family is Lebanese Christian, and I know people in Lebanon. While I think Israels invasion is totally out of proportion, I think Hizbullah needed to be punished. Therefore, Israel shoulda threatened invasion of Lebanon if the government didn't crack down. Instead, it just invaded.

Speaking of Peace through arms...
I want to rename my nation "the Vandal republic", it doesn't me that im going to invade Europe though. I just played a lot of Rome Total War and im convinced that Vandals are bad mofos

Congrats to Haw & Hirgy for winning the semi-finals. Now OK and I get to vie for 3rd place.

Congrats to Haw & Hirgy for winning the semi-finals. Now OK and I get to vie for 3rd place.
Aye indeed, it was a good run, if I must say.

People who want to know why the October Alliance is so strong and so tight nit? Well here is your answer:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=289039