NationStates Jolt Archive

Official Communication

The Empire does not, under any circumstance, deny the authoritarian nature of our federal government or the republican nature of our local governments and will allow the superiorly intelligent Layartebian people as well as the global community to determine the falsities of the statements of the DPCRR.

Official Communication

The Empire does not, under any circumstance, deny the authoritarian nature of our federal government or the republican nature of our local governments and will allow the superiorly intelligent Layartebian people as well as the global community to determine the falsities of the statements of the DPCRR.

Official Response from the Russian Federation

The childish thrusts that you are putting out such as renaming our nation only shows the lack of intelligence in the people involved in your government as well as your common citizens who allow such a government to hold control over them. We made no falsities in our statements and we shall not indulge you in your childplay any longer. Good day.

OOC: I was reading the first few pages of the thread and came across the ill-fated United Nations. I'm thinking we could revive it but simply as a forum for which international disputes could be diplomatically resolved. There would be the aid of a mediator who can provide suggestions and even make a non-binding ruling. Thoughts?

^ Repost. I thought it may have been lost in the banter.

^ Repost. I thought it may have been lost in the banter.

It could work, I'd be willing to participate.

I have to admit, I'd be surprised if it did work. Several nations here have a hard time talking to each other as it is, putting them together in a UN-style environment will just lead to a continuation of the Pushka & Pals vs. TOA Happy Slappy Hour. The UN might work if it's resolving disputes between nations apart from them, but otherwise it'll just be another place for the constant bitching to continue; of course, this time there'll be proper spectators.

I'd love it to work, but I think you're being too optimistic about EII, RomeW.


While I'm here:


Global Communique

The United Eastasian Republic would like to question why the Empire of Layarteb feels that calling the Russian Federation 'Communist' is equal to calling the Fourth Reich 'National Socialist'; the UER has a communist system and would like to know if the Empire views all 'communists' in such a negative light. We kindly request that the Layartebians find some other pejorative to throw at the Russians, as this 'banter' is only showing how low both nations sink when they start conversing.

In addition, we question the competency of the Russian regime. Obviously the civil service and government of the Federation badly needs assistance as they do not know what they are signed up to. Perhaps they should spend less time sniping with the Empire of Layarteb and pay more attention to what their diplomats are signing. They must know full well that the other branch of the Eurasian Line is in jeopardy due to the actions of the USR, so either they are acting in unison with the USR while lying about their motives, or they are blind to all that happens in the world.

Either way, since they apparently have no desire to consult with the United Eastasian Republic on this matter, and did not care that they were hampering Eastasian trade with the West, the United Eastasian Republic is ceasing all trade and diplomatic contact with the Russian Federation. All Eastasian citizens in the Federation are being recalled, while all Russian citizens in the UER are being expelled. We will cope just fine trading by sea and air as we did before the Eurasian Line was established.


(OOC: if all I'm good for is trading, there's no need to keep doing that with you, since I 'picked my camp a long time ago')

To: Whoever it may concern
From: Realm of Cotland
Subject: Concern
Encryption: None

The Realm, as always, finds amusement in the constant bantering between the Empire of Layarteb and the Russian Federation, but is concerned with the timing in this particular bout of bantering. While the Empire of Layarteb and the Russian Federation argues about relatively irrelevant issues, the world economy continues its nosedive. The Realm feels that this is an issue better worth spending ones time and bandwith on instead of the constant insults and denials both sides continue, and implore both sides to instead try to find a sollution to the problems which the Russian closure of the Eurasian Line cause.

Oh yeah, and we condemn the Russian Federation's closing of the Eurasian Line through their territory on the grounds of it causing havoc for the Cottish economy.

[signed]
Siv Jensen
Foreign Minister
The Realm of Cotland

The following message is Top Secret IC
To: United Eastasian Republic
From: Realm of Cotland
Subject: New trade routes
Encryption: High

The Realm is equally harmed by the Russian moves against the Eurasian Line, but would like to see the economical damages made by the Russian move to be as small as possible, as we are sure that the UER would too. Taking into consideration the great volume of consumer goods and other trade commodities that is shipped to and sold in Cotland every week, the Realm would like to offer the UER the possibility of shipping said goods directly to Cotland instead of having to move the goods via various stopping points and such.

We propose that a percentage of the goods be shipped via rail to the state of Amur, which is located in the south of the Crown Province of Siberia, and from there transfered to the various points in the Realm where the goods are normally sold. This will ensure that the goods get to their destination quickly and efficiently, and at the same time guarantee the UER its profit and trading goods. The most logical point of crossing the border would be the city of Blagoveshchensk, which is located almost directly on the Cottish-UER border. What we have in mind is that the goods that are to be sold within the Crown Province of Siberia would be transported on this line, saving the UER the time and resources required to ship the goods to the ports in Siberia from the various ports in the UER. The benefits are great: The Crown Province of Siberia is the home to more than a one third of a billion citizens, all of whom spend a great amount of money on consumer goods, the majority of which are produced in the UER. The profits that may be lost from the closing of the Eurasian Line but that can be saved from our proposal are enormous.

This is naturally only a suggestion from our side, aimed at reducing the stress on our economies caused by the Russian move against the Eurasian Line, and is completely up to the United Eastasian Republics to decide whether or not our two respective countries should go through with it. We await your reply with great hope and anticipation.

[signed]
Miranda Voll
Commerce Minister
The Realm of Cotland

Global Communique

"The Fourth Reich is disappointed, yet not surprised, that the nation of Pushka has once again taken a step backwards. To fix the problem caused by this economically and socially backwards nation, Germania - an always forward-thinking nation - will construct a new line that bypasses Pushka's lands.

"The new line will pass through the Realm of Cotland's lands in Russia, South through the Roman Empire's lands, then East through Kazakhstan and will connect to Mongolia and if the nation of Marimaia chooses, it can spread all through China and any other territories.

"We find it quite amusing that the nation of Pushka's intelligence is so poor that they believe our great state to be one of National Socialism. Clearly, this shows that Pushka does not have the economic funds to even know what type of governments nations have.

"To Nerotika, we feel it would be very unwise for you to attack the Fourth Reich anywhere. We will offer you one, and only one, chance to apologize for the threat and move all troops away from our borders. If you do not, you will be pre-emptively attacked.

"I assure the world that while the global economy is suffering, the Fourth Reich will reestablish a solid trade route through Russia, one way or another. If it means war, then so be it. The destruction of one nation is acceptable to maintain the world's economy.

"Thank you,"
-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler

GLOBAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN


In light of recent events and with the possibility of a global nose-dive in trade the Commonwealth will be increasing output of all vital materials including oil, natural gas, coal, steel, iron and foodstuffs. For a limited period the quotas for oil will be pushed from 35-40 Million barrels per day to 65-70 Million to make up for trade lost along the Eurasian line. Natural gas production and coal mining will also increase for a period of time.

Hopefully these actions will help to offset any possible recession in the global market.


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TOP SECRET IC

To: UER
From: COH
Subject: Trade
ENCRYPT

For a limited period only the Hirgizstanian government would be willing to open a number of trade routes to the UER, not out of any new movement toward openess, but to help offset global trade problems brought about by the recent hostilities that have erupted in the wake of actions in Russia and elsewhere.
The Commonwealth has nothing in particular it needs from the UER, but we understand you have a great need for oil and other raw materials, and now that the Eurasian line has been disrupted, this need is not being met well. Certain companies, we know for certain, would be interested in sending oil to the UER for the slightly increased price of $15 per barrel (up from $9 which is the standard price for all FTA nations).
We suggest that the UER consider this offer carefully as it will not be left on the table for long.

-COH-

MESSAGE ENDS

OOC: See Mari, you have picked your camp long ago.

IC:

Official Response from the Russian Federation


We are saddened by the decision of the Eastasian government to stop all the trade and diplomatic relations between our nations, we feel that this decision is rush but in the end where is nothing we can do and with full integration of Latin American Autonomous Republic the Federation can keep foreign trade to a minimum by simply trading between the provinces. We would like to point out that the Eurasian Line was moved through our territories during the breath period of their control by the nation of Tyrandis and we have never actually agreed to it, since we never used the Eurasian line for trade as we do not trade with most nations that are its members it took us long to notice its existence and to compile legislature that would outlaw it. We are also saddened by the Realm of Cotland's condemnation of our actions, however we will do what we must to protect our sovereign territory from the influence of Nazism and thus its sponsor the Fourth Reich. Good day.

-Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

OOC: See Mari, you have picked your camp long ago.

IC:

Official Response from the Russian Federation


We are saddened by the decision of the Eurasian government to stop all the trade and diplomatic relations between our nations, we feel that this decision is rush but in the end where is nothing we can do and with full integration of Latin American Autonomous Republic the Federation can keep foreign trade to a minimum by simply trading between the provinces. We would like to point out that the Eurasian Line was moved through our territories during the breath period of their control by the nation of Tyrandis and we have never actually agreed to it, since we never used the Eurasian line for trade as we do not trade with most nations that are its members it took us long to notice its existence and to compile legislature that would outlaw it. We are also saddened by the Realm of Cotland's condemnation of our actions, however we will do what we must to protect our sovereign territory from the influence of Nazism and thus its sponsor the Fourth Reich. Good day.

-Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

OOC: Dude Mari = Eastasian.

Secret Communication to the UER

The Empire is fully aware of how our communications to the Russian Federation appear. The Empire, as always, is strictly opposed to communism but neither will it endeavor to tell others how to run their own countries as it is their sovereign right. Our labelling of the Russian Federation is merely to put example to the pure idiocy of the Russian Federation and their low-class remarks against our ally, the Fourth Reich. The Fourth Reich is as much of a nazi system as the Russian Federation is a communist system; however, employing the same misguided logic the Russian Federation uses, we come to the logical conclusion that the Russian Federation is a communist system.

We understand the confusion of this statement but implore the UER that no ill-will exists against your state from the Empire. The Empire will continue relations with the UER and, in the future, seek to expand upon them, with the willingness of the UER. We all share a common foe and that is the Russian Federation. Their hypocrisy and their selfishness seems neverending. As the global economy nosedives all around us, so too will their own. The only alternative is for them to completely shut themselves in, which will lead to an eventual collapse of their system, perhaps something we should strive for in the future.

The Empire has never trusted the Russian people and these examples only reinforce our distrust of them. We can always count on the Russians doing whatever they feel and ignoring the rest. It is a shame they have treated the Eastasian people with such disdain and the Empire feels the comments made by the Russian Federation are simply projections of their own faults and misgivings. Their claims of "racial superiority" exhibited by the Fourth Reich are seemingly their own flaws.

It should be our duty now to work around the Russian Federation with the Eurasian Line and seek to isolate them.

The Emperor

OOC: I was reading the first few pages of the thread and came across the ill-fated United Nations. I'm thinking we could revive it but simply as a forum for which international disputes could be diplomatically resolved. There would be the aid of a mediator who can provide suggestions and even make a non-binding ruling. Thoughts?

Not that the Empire would ICly join an international body but you know I'll help you anyway to get it started and running.

WELL!!!!

Earth II is 3 years old in just hmm let me see 9 days. Wow! What an amazing thing. This year Mari and I have 2 presents for you guys, one of which you'll receive below, the other you've got to wait until the day of (and yes I wanted to announce this one early just because I feel generous).

So here we go: (The usual)
8,000,000,000 people now lets you claim 6,500,000 mi² or for you ruthless metric fiends who betrayed the glory of imperial 16,834,922 km² (yeah that is an ugly number). So yes we uped the matrix again.

We hope you enjoy this and just wait until the 13th for the real present!

Just to let everyone know, I will not aknowledge claims that my economy is hurt by this, I have never used the Eurasian line for trade, I did trade with Mari but I will reroute that to Mexico, thus my losses will be minimal. In addition Im no more selfish then any of you are, I have interests and I must strive to protect them. That is all.

OOC: Screw it.

IC:

Official Message From the Russian Federation

By the Presidential right there have been adjustments made to the previous bill outlawing the Eurasian Line on Russian territory. We are prepared to reopen it temporarily as long as countries affected by its closure will present us a reasonable timetable for rerouting the line around us. We still do not condone nazism but we are willing to come half way on this issue. If reopened the line will be monitored closely by the Russian Federation forces so that no nazi contraband passes through it. Good day.

OOC: I hate all of you equally.

Official Statement

The Realm is willing to, in co-operation with the Roman Empire, to let the Eurasian Line pass through our territories from the Kazhakstani territories, thus bypassing the Russian holdings in western Russia. The Realm also propose that the Eurasian Line will pass directly from Kazhakstan to China, thus bypassing the Russian Federation's main territories completely, and from China to the Crown Province of Siberia, thus reducing the strains on our economy significantly.

OOC: I hate all of you equally.

OOC: Good for you. The peaceful coexistence 'camp' (which is the one I picked a long time ago) will continue trading, however I do commend your economic self-sufficiency. I just never knew that you could get exactly the same volume and type of trade goods from your Mexican holdings as you could get from me. Live and learn, I guess.

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The following are all top-secret ICs

To the Realm of Cotland:

The United Eastasian Republic is most pleased to accept the offer regarding the Crown Province of Siberia; indeed, it is nice to see that we can continue to reach sensible agreements. Our economic analysts will continue to examine the situation and we may present suggestions of our own to the Realm in the near future.


To the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan:

The United Eastasian Republic understands the political and diplomatic situation between itself and the Commonwealth; although we do not need the oil as badly as may be thought, we shall still take up the offer as having decent reserves is never a bad idea in the ever-changing global state of affairs.


To the Empire of Layarteb:

Perhaps a better method to respond to 'low-class remarks' is to ignore them. In any event, although we have ceased relations with the Russians we do not necessarily regard them as 'foes' to face down; we will continue monitoring our borders with them but otherwise we see nothing to be gained by hostility.

We will of course continue relations with the Empire of Layarteb, and if there is reason to increase cooperation then we shall address that reason when the time comes.

A official statement form the Eurasian Government

THIS IS MADNESS

In other news the Eurasian Oil and Natural Gas companies will double its oil and natural gas production to make up for the shortfall in supply with Eurasian Line being closed.

OOC: Good for you. The peaceful coexistence 'camp' (which is the one I picked a long time ago) will continue trading, however I do commend your economic self-sufficiency. I just never knew that you could get exactly the same volume and type of trade goods from your Mexican holdings as you could get from me. Live and learn, I guess.

OOC: More like the "lets backstab Pushka" camp. In any case, I've given you guys an offer you might be willing to accept so I can "peacefully coexist", what a bunch of self-righteous nonsense that is. Anyways, you don't want me to lift the ban until you guys can actually build all the stuff you need to go around me thats your prerogative. Yeah, Im still in the Greater Good camp.

--edit--

In other news I withdraw the deal, nevermind it if you actually read it.

TOP SECRET IC

To: UER
From: COH
Subject: Trade
ENCRYPT


The Commonwealth will begin shipments as soon as logistics allow and will continue until the problem with the Eurasian line can be amended, meaning shipments will stop once a suitable route outside of the Russian Federation has been completed and is operational.

-COH-

MESSAGE ENDS

WELL!!!!

Earth II is 3 years old in just hmm let me see 9 days. Wow! What an amazing thing. This year Mari and I have 2 presents for you guys, one of which you'll receive below, the other you've got to wait until the day of (and yes I wanted to announce this one early just because I feel generous).

So here we go: (The usual)
8,000,000,000 people now lets you claim 6,500,000 mi² or for you ruthless metric fiends who betrayed the glory of imperial 16,834,922 km² (yeah that is an ugly number). So yes we uped the matrix again.

We hope you enjoy this and just wait until the 13th for the real present!


Great news.

I thought I read here recently that Tyrandis' land was up for grabs, if so I'd like to take his part of Liberia.
And if anyone is selling up in the Pacific I'll be sure to give you a fair price!

Official Communique from the Russian Federation

In this hour we finally realize that the world has turned its back on us. Those that we have considered friends have betrayed us once again and all because we are committed to protecting our interests. It is a sad world we live in there the cause of justice and righteousness we uphold draws no supporters and yet the few peace loving nations of the world choose to believe the lies put up by the oppressive, incompetent regimes that created a world with no future. Let it be known to the world that we shall continue to stand tall with allies or without for we believe in the better future for this world, we hope for it and we are prepared to act upon this hope that shall never die. In addition to discontinuing relations with UER we also withdraw our embassy from Layarteb and will no longer have any relations with that nation. We are tired of lies and tired of masks our enemies choose to wear, we will stand tall and stand alone until freedom loving nations of the world choose to cast down the lies of our enemies if that is ever to happen. That is all.

-Igor Stepanov, President of the Russian Federation

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All across the nation the bells rang, the Russian military moved to highest level of readiness as military units began to form up inside of its borders.

Sorry I haven't been posting recently, I have an important presentation to give tomorrow at uni, but as soon as its finished, I will be posting in the Argentina thread, and completing my factbook, as well as starting an RP for my Brazillian claims.

Official Statement on the closing of the Eurasian Line

Our nation invested billions of dollars into this project with the understanding that ALL nations along the line would benefit from its use. With the short-sighted vision of the Russian Federation an economic impass has developed. Since your government doesn't care about the global impact of such a decision, we will make a few of our own.

First, All Russian Federation Merchant vessels are hereby bared from Hawdawgian waters for the purpose of conducting international trade.

Second, the Major Canal we constructed that allows access to the Artic Ocean through our Oblasts is hereby closed to all Russian Commercial Fleet Vessels.

Third, we are considering closing the Straits of Gibraltar if this silly chest-thumping continues.

When and if the Russian Government decides to reconsider its decision on the Eurasian Line, we will consider lifting said bans.



To the Nation of Nerotika

We do not currently have a large group of troops within the Fourth Reich, but we do have a presence there. Action taken against them will result in these troops getting involved. The ECRF will intervene, there will be casualties.

Due to the increasing Hostility in Russia, the Trenskian Government has decreed that all Veichles passing through Trensk holdings in Russia and Northern Europe are to be inspected for security reasons and Security Alertness has been risen from Brown (Low) to Orange (Moderate).

Also, due to the Eurasian Line being closed, Trensk shall support the nation of Hawdawg and the harbors in the province of Estonia are now barred from the Russian Federation unless it is a Life-or-Death situation.

Response from the Russian Federation

We have never conducted trade with the Republic of Trensk nor the nation of Hawdawg and as such these bans shall not impact us in the slightest. We do not see why your nations can not understand that our responsibilities are to serve the interests of our nation, those interests do not include cooperating with our enemies which include nazi governments such as the Fourth Reich. We will not lift this ban and the decision is final, such a ban is crucial to our commitment to our cause, if we overlook one thing we might as well overlook all of them so we shall not overlook anything. Good day.

Response from the Russian Federation

We have never conducted trade with the Republic of Trensk nor the nation of Hawdawg and as such these bans shall not impact us in the slightest. We do not see why your nations can not understand that our responsibilities are to serve the interests of our nation, those interests do not include cooperating with our enemies which include nazi governments such as the Fourth Reich. We will not lift this ban and the decision is final, such a ban is crucial to our commitment to our cause, if we overlook one thing we might as well overlook all of them so we shall not overlook anything. Good day.


OOC: Whether you want to admit it or not, officially stopping all trade with your nation will effect you. No one is immune to trade stoppages, because no nation here is totally self-sufficient in any aspect. Its called the global economy.

OOC: Whether you want to admit it or not, officially stopping all trade with your nation will effect you. No one is immune to trade stoppages, because no nation here is totally self-sufficient in any aspect. Its called the global economy.

OOC: True, but that doesn't mean Im trading with you, you're a TOA member remember? Mari's actions now that will hurt me a bit but I'll bare through it. Its not really a choice. But since I don't have anymore allies or even friendlies I will have to redo my economy model to be more self-sufficient, it is possible to a great degree.

Obviously Push you know the Panama Canal is closed again to you with that latest stunt, I don't need to make a post about it.

In lighter news, Infernal has another post.

Obviously Push you know the Panama Canal is closed again to you with that latest stunt, I don't need to make a post about it.

In lighter news, Infernal has another post.

OOC: When Im going to need that island back since that violates our land trade agreement. Not that I ever used the Panama Canal for anything. I would like you to at least acknowledge the fact that I just kicked your ambassador out and withdrew mine.

Heh guys, things are really simple, much more then I imagined, no matter how much I worked to rebuild friendly relations with other nations, even the TOA nations, no matter how much I gave up in this endeavor the first time I try to take a stand for myself it all falls apart which just means that whatever 'relations' I did have with you guys were one-sided and worthless. Now just waiting for Cot to cut me off from my lands in western Russia and thus force me to act militarily, bah, its all so predictable.

OOC: When Im going to need that island back since that violates our land trade agreement. Not that I ever used the Panama Canal for anything. I would like you to at least acknowledge the fact that I just kicked your ambassador out and withdrew mine.

Heh guys, things are really simple, much more then I imagined, no matter how much I worked to rebuild friendly relations with other nations, even the TOA nations, no matter how much I gave up in this endeavor the first time I try to take a stand for myself it all falls apart which just means that whatever 'relations' I did have with you guys were one-sided and pointless for me. Now just waiting for Cot to cut me off from my lands in western Russia and thus force me to act militarily, bah, its all so predictable.

OOC: What island?

Yeah I'll post an IC thing but probably tomorrow.







Global Communique

The Empire would like to call an emergency summit for all nations party to the Great Eurasian Line. If the Eastasian Republic would be so generous as to host this endeavor, the Empire would like to see this summit hosted in Beijing.

The Emperor

OOC: What island?

Yeah I'll post an IC thing but probably tomorrow.

OOC: The tiny ass island in the pacific ocean which I gave you for some money, promise to not put nukes on the Falklands and access to Panama canal.

OOC: The tiny ass island in the pacific ocean which I gave you for some money, promise to not put nukes on the Falklands and access to Panama canal.

Oh those islands. Yeah no. You broke diplomatic relations with me not the other way around so no you're not getting those back. The promise was to not deploy strategic weapons to the Falklands though. Tatical nukes weren't covered by that though. No money was given either. You traded me the islands for the no strategic weapons in the Falklands, access to the Panama Canal, and the embassy with the upping of the travel quota. You dropped diplomatic relations with me so you violated it, not me.

Oh those islands. Yeah no. You broke diplomatic relations with me not the other way around so no you're not getting those back. The promise was to not deploy strategic weapons to the Falklands though. Tatical nukes weren't covered by that though. No money was given either. You traded me the islands for the no strategic weapons in the Falklands, access to the Panama Canal, and the embassy with the upping of the travel quota. You dropped diplomatic relations with me so you violated it, not me.

Meh, just another addition of reasons for the clusterfuck thats about to ensue no big deal. Just another point for never making deals with the devil, the devil will always try to screw you over.

Shit, found the coolest pic that falls in just perfectly with what I imagine an NS Russian Federation soldier in gear looks like and the best part its actually RL shit:

http://militaryvideo.ru/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_3632.jpg

http://militaryvideo.ru/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_3631.jpg

http://militaryvideo.ru/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_3622.jpg

http://militaryvideo.ru/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_2214.jpg

http://militaryvideo.ru/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_2218.jpg

IC:

Official Statement

The Realm is willing to, in co-operation with the Roman Empire, to let the Eurasian Line pass through our territories from the Kazhakstani territories, thus bypassing the Russian holdings in western Russia. The Realm also propose that the Eurasian Line will pass directly from Kazhakstan to China, thus bypassing the Russian Federation's main territories completely, and from China to the Crown Province of Siberia, thus reducing the strains on our economy significantly.

We will do everything in our power to ensure that a proper bypass be constructed and would be honoured to have the Line continue through Roman territory.

OOC:

I have to admit, I'd be surprised if it did work. Several nations here have a hard time talking to each other as it is, putting them together in a UN-style environment will just lead to a continuation of the Pushka & Pals vs. TOA Happy Slappy Hour. The UN might work if it's resolving disputes between nations apart from them, but otherwise it'll just be another place for the constant bitching to continue; of course, this time there'll be proper spectators.

I'd love it to work, but I think you're being too optimistic about EII, RomeW.

I intended it more as a place where countries can vent and/or meet face-to-face in order to mend fences- like a continuous, global conference. It'd also be the place for countries to go to in order to get a "neutral" opinion that doesn't have to be binding- but, a ruling in your favour would give your side that much more weight. There wouldn't be any "resolutions", "Security Council", or any other kind of "international" organizations that frankly plague the real UN, with the only organizations running out of the Earth II UN being purely humanitarian. My version of the UN would be like bringing in a friend to help resolve a dispute between family members- simply a mediator, which is what the RL UN should only be.

Now, as far as the Eurasian Line goes, I believe both sides are now in error. To wit:

Heh guys, things are really simple, much more then I imagined, no matter how much I worked to rebuild friendly relations with other nations, even the TOA nations, no matter how much I gave up in this endeavor the first time I try to take a stand for myself it all falls apart which just means that whatever 'relations' I did have with you guys were one-sided and worthless. Now just waiting for Cot to cut me off from my lands in western Russia and thus force me to act militarily, bah, its all so predictable.

You aren't being very considerate, which will cost you in terms of building up your relationships. Think about your actions this way: say your neighbour has a dispute with some guy who lives three doors down from you (but has no issues with you). The neighbour decides, in a fit of rage, to cut off his cable after it leaves his house to get back at the man he's fighting with but, since that cable also feeds your house, he not only cuts out cable for the person he's fighting with but also with you, someone he has no issues with- until now. You tell me if you'd still be friendly with your neighbour after he blatantly disregards the consequences of what he did, because he's not just screwing over the person he's fighting with but also you and for no good reason. Likewise, here you may think that by cutting off the Eurasian Line all you're doing is affecting North Germania but you're not- you're affecting Marimaia, Layarteb, myself, Cotland, Hawdawg, Ottman Khaif and Hirgizstan as well, because we're *all* connected to the line, not just NG. Therefore, you shouldn't be surprised we're all a little upset because you're screwing us all over for no good reason at all.

We would like to point out that the Eurasian Line was moved through our territories during the breath period of their control by the nation of Tyrandis and we have never actually agreed to it, since we never used the Eurasian line for trade as we do not trade with most nations that are its members it took us long to notice its existence and to compile legislature that would outlaw it.

I'm going to reply to this OOCly because I think, Pushka, you should change your explanation. This one sounds like your government is entirely clueless to what happens inside their own country because for them not to realize they were getting the Eurasian Line, frankly, wreaks of incompetence. It's not like the Line is a black market that's meant to be hidden- the Line is meant to be seen and is meant to benefit your country, so how could your officials not know it's there? You've also had that territory for several months now (if not a year- I'm not sure of the exact date but I know it's not a couple of weeks) so you've had ample time to notice it.

If you'd argued, say, that you didn't realize how much the Germans were involved in it (as what I think actually happened to you) then your government wouldn't look as bad because finer details always take longer to notice- however, a detail such as "noticing the Line" is too large a detail to take a RL year to realize.

Now, for the rest of you:

OOC: Screw it.

IC:

Official Message From the Russian Federation

By the Presidential right there have been adjustments made to the previous bill outlawing the Eurasian Line on Russian territory. We are prepared to reopen it temporarily as long as countries affected by its closure will present us a reasonable timetable for rerouting the line around us. We still do not condone nazism but we are willing to come half way on this issue. If reopened the line will be monitored closely by the Russian Federation forces so that no nazi contraband passes through it. Good day.

OOC: I hate all of you equally.

^ Pushka agreed to temporarily reopen the Line to allow us to build a bypass, which is what we wanted at the very least, yet this was completely and senselessly ignored through the banter. I was prepared to write an IC statement welcoming the move but since I believe this has been withdrawn OOCly, I don't know how to respond- ICly. I think we've all got to take a small step back and realize what we're doing before this thing gets way too out of hand.

Official Statement

We are saddened to see the Russian Federation behaving in the childish manner in which it acts, and hope that cooler minds will prevail, lest the world be thrown into a costly conflict that will surely cost the lives of millions. The increased military readiness we have detected in the Russian military does not help to decrease the sudden rise in tensions, and as such, we are forced to increase our own military readiness to BERSTAT-3 in an attempt to safeguard the safety and security of the Realm. We assure the world that this is merely a defensive measure, and that it will match the readiness level of the Russian Federation. All trade with the Russian Federation has also been cut off, with all Russian assets within the Realm frozen until this measure can be peacefully resolved.

Until this crisis can be resolved peacefully, no further Russian troop movements shall be permitted through Tambov. Any attempt to violate this closure of the corridor we most graciously have permitted through our sovereign territory shall be met with the necessary resolve and force to ensure the safety and sovereignty of the Realm. Furthermore, we feel obligated to temporarily evoke Article 29 of the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139), which means that all Russian nationals currently within the borders of the Realm are to be detained by the Security Services and expelled from the Realm immediately. They will, pending a peaceful resolution of this conflict, be permitted to return to the Realm. The Realm also reintroduces its old ban on Russian merchant vessels travelling through the territorial waters of the Realm, which are 24 nautical miles wide. Any attempts of infringement upon this decision by the Russian Federation will be considered an act of hostility and dealt with accordingly.

We urge the Russian Federation to reconsider its foolish movements, in the interests of world peace. If the current leadership in the Russian Federation does not want peace, they are obviously unfit to rule a country the size of Russia, and should be removed from power.

On a lighter note, the Realm welcomes the international effort to redirect the Eurasian Line in an attempt of reducing the current stress on our economies, and shall certainly do its share in this effort.

[signed]
The Realm of Cotland

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See all as I have predicted, now its war, congrats Cot. Will post a thread after work.

You aren't being very considerate, which will cost you in terms of building up your relationships. Think about your actions this way: say your neighbour has a dispute with some guy who lives three doors down from you (but has no issues with you). The neighbour decides, in a fit of rage, to cut off his cable after it leaves his house to get back at the man he's fighting with but, since that cable also feeds your house, he not only cuts out cable for the person he's fighting with but also with you, someone he has no issues with- until now. You tell me if you'd still be friendly with your neighbour after he blatantly disregards the consequences of what he did, because he's not just screwing over the person he's fighting with but also you and for no good reason. Likewise, here you may think that by cutting off the Eurasian Line all you're doing is affecting North Germania but you're not- you're affecting Marimaia, Layarteb, myself, Cotland, Hawdawg, Ottman Khaif and Hirgizstan as well, because we're *all* connected to the line, not just NG. Therefore, you shouldn't be surprised we're all a little upset because you're screwing us all over for no good reason at all.

I don't have to be very considerable, my nation is sovereign and thus has a responsibility to hold its interests above all else, these interests include not dealing with my enemies such as North Germania and now apparently also Cotland and Layartreb, ah shit lets throw Marimia into the mix too for good measure, those other three came as a big of a surprise well Lay didn't, but that just means that they were only waiting for an opportunity to screw me over which means we didn't have any sort of respectable relations to begin with.

I'm going to reply to this OOCly because I think, Pushka, you should change your explanation. This one sounds like your government is entirely clueless to what happens inside their own country because for them not to realize they were getting the Eurasian Line, frankly, wreaks of incompetence. It's not like the Line is a black market that's meant to be hidden- the Line is meant to be seen and is meant to benefit your country, so how could your officials not know it's there? You've also had that territory for several months now (if not a year- I'm not sure of the exact date but I know it's not a couple of weeks) so you've had ample time to notice it.

They don't really care how they look, the world has already turned on me, I have no allies so eh I got nothing to loose. They don't really need a reason anyways, plus in a democratic country it takes a while to push major legislation through.

If you'd argued, say, that you didn't realize how much the Germans were involved in it (as what I think actually happened to you) then your government wouldn't look as bad because finer details always take longer to notice- however, a detail such as "noticing the Line" is too large a detail to take a RL year to realize.

Not look as bad in who's eyes?

Now, for the rest of you:



^ Pushka agreed to temporarily reopen the Line to allow us to build a bypass, which is what we wanted at the very least, yet this was completely and senselessly ignored through the banter. I was prepared to write an IC statement welcoming the move but since I believe this has been withdrawn OOCly, I don't know how to respond- ICly. I think we've all got to take a small step back and realize what we're doing before this thing gets way too out of hand.

Where is no going back, they are not interested in this going back, they expect me to roll over, what they will get is WW2.

See all as I have predicted, now its war, congrats Cot. Will post a thread after work.

You have NFC what my last post means, but whatever. I guess that's how much your "moral high ground" is worth...

You have NFC what my last post means, but whatever. I guess that's how much your "moral high ground" is worth...

I understood you saying that you are cutting me off from my westernmost lands in Russia, thats a reason enough and yes I have sufficient higher moral ground in this one. You're obviously are not interested in peace otherwise you wouldn't have pushed this towards war.

How have I pushed you towards war? By not letting you move troops through my sovereign territory when you pulled that stunt you did? Did you honestly expect that I would do nothing when you cut off the Eurasian Line, thus harming my economy? Are you seriously that naive?

No i expected you to do exactly this, I said this yesterday: "Now Im just waiting for Cot to cut me off from my lands in western Russia and thus force me to act militarily, bah, its so predictable." What do you expect me to do? Not attack you when you cut me off from my sovereign territory? You did that knowing full well my reaction, since thats the only reaction that can be, or did you expect me to do nothing? Are you that naive?

OOC: Pushka, you do realize my nation ISN'T run by a National Socialist government, right? If you're just saying that for propaganda, that's cool, but I am adamantly against the ideals, constructs, and even symbolism of Nazism. Just so we're clear. :upyours:

IC:

In light of recent events, the military readiness of the Fourth Reich has been increased from KRISTAT-4 (slightly raised readiness) to KRISTAT-3 (preparing for war). An undisclosed number of Panzer and Infanterie Divisions (approximately 5 - 8) have been moved to both the Nerotikan borders in Russia and the Pushkan borders. Four armies from Germany are currently en route to Kazakhstan via the Great Eurasian Line.

Several Luftwaffe Divisions in Kazakhstan have been activated and are patrolling the skies. Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler - former top general before the Kaiser died and Kübler took power - has surprisingly decided to lead these armies himself, supported by Reichsführer Heinz Guderian and Reichsgeneral Hermann Jenssen. After being asked why the Reichskanzler would take such a risk, he replied, "...the looming Great War of the Russian States against the Forces of the October Alliance has striked a personal nerve with me. I see the Pushkan and Nerotikan States as thorns in the side of the entire world and I will not stand by idly and allow them to disrupt the world's economy, promote terror, and attempt to stagnate the growth of all nations."

[OOC: More to come.]

It's not my fault that you force me to take those measures. Besides, am I seriously the only one you can move your troops through? Do Nero not currently have territory that connect to your territories in western Russia? I think he does (and if he doesn't have directly, there is a route through Rome's territories. It's a longer way, but you'll get there eventually). Just don't expect me to let your troops past again.

It's not my fault that you force me to take those measures. Besides, am I seriously the only one you can move your troops through? Do Nero not currently have territory that connect to your territories in western Russia? I think he does (and if he doesn't have directly, there is a route through Rome's territories. It's a longer way, but you'll get there eventually). Just don't expect me to let your troops past again.

And don't expect me to not attack your territories to get to mine. Obviously whatever relations I have been working towards with you were worthless, you were just waiting for a chance to backstab me like this. I should have just went ahead with my counterclaim and not let you have any of Panth's land thats going to have to be corrected.

And don't expect me to not attack your territories to get to mine. Obviously whatever relations I have been working towards with you were worthless, you were just waiting for a chance to backstab me like this.

Ah. Now I see clearly. Those who do not exactly what you want, are backstabbers. How could I be so naive?

Eh, no its more like: Those that stab me in the back are backstabbers. You did exactly that.

So guys you're ready for the big one? Im going to try to make this a good RP to the extent of my abilities since thats the last RP I will ever make as part of EII, I suggest we set up a sub-forum at forsaken cause big RPs means a lot of bitching and we'll need to channel that somewhere away from NS.

Although if I can get through Rome...shit you just made things more difficult, asshole. Hmm, we'll see what Rome says about it, but this situation can not continue even if Rome allows me to get through his lands to mine having me backed into a corner like this will result in war...actually nvm, Lay won't give me my island back so i guess its still on. A bit less epic then I imagined, but Lay being the asshole that he is will obviously not be interested in resolving this thus I'll have to resolve it for all of us. I am not looking for war, I am not a warmonger, I have simply accepted its inevitability and am tired of dealing with unfairness.

OOC: Off the record, I officially (figure that out) can’t take it anymore. Pushka my dear friend I just can’t take it. You hate Lay right? I think we can all agree on that. So then you need to swallow your rather arrogant Russian pride and wildly irrational logic and look at this from a removed perspective. I am going to lay the facts out: You cannot stand up to TOA; no single nation can do so. Despite your obvious and understood hatred towards them to attack them by yourself is borderline retarded. Yet your tunnel vision has kept that truth from your eyes. Even if you were to somehow engage in a war with only one of them you are still only even, not better and nothing would be settled. You have to realize that in order to kill TOA you have to make TOA want to kill themselves. You have to get the members to fight each other. You have to take the war off the conventional battlefield. Hell most of the members of TOA (hint Splitter and Ride the Lightning) already have started their downfall. Shit I was able to sneak a nuke and set it off in Layarteb territory (not USB but a renegade faction). You have to use Lay and Cot and Hawdawg’s professionalism against them. If you play those stories right you can succeed. You had the perfect chance, a chance to fight Lay mono v mono in South America. Let him beat you; wage a guerrilla war, a war that beat Lay in Konigsberg. Nero invades NG drawing everyone in and he does the same thing, now you launch an all out terrorist like campaign against them. You play off their population’s fears. Then when their people are getting upset and the body bags are filling you use Mari to launch an organized assault.
It is so simple. Sure you’d also be ‘fucked’ but your hatred is so great that everything should be honkey dorey.

I’m sorry I had to be so mean about it but it is so simple. I talked to lay about it, I’m sure he probably won’t be happy but I just couldn’t take it. We still have an FTA right Pushka?

IC: The Johannesburg Courts have been idling as home of the Supreme Court since its construction. There intended purpose was exactly what Rome has outlined and will be glad to play home to such an organization if one were to be resurrected. We also open our doors to world diplomats, such as those from North Germania and Russia, to join together on this neutral ground to settle this conflict before it manifests itself physically.

Wow...wtf did I do? lol. Didnt think this would impact tensions everywhere but I did plan to do this yesterday (Got fired from my job so I was kinda busy with alot of shit) below will be the only statement im making on this matter an in about 4 hours the invasion thread will be posted, gotta revise and make sure nothing is out of place or incorrect.
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International Address from Chairman Voloda Darinsky of The Council State of Nerotika

First before anything I would like to say that all operations conducted by our state were approved by a full majority vote in the National Congressional Council in full compitence of its members. So as to not give the wronge idea this nation is not dictorial as was the USR, we would like the international community to recognize this changed state as we no longer hold ties to our soviet past. As the first chairman of this council in his first year I was skeptical about this invasion myself although force is the only mesure we are able to use we would have preferred an easier option to gain trade throughout asia. These operations in short were made to not just expand our border but to gain a hold on trade and provide it from a nearby source of government, the colonies here are looked at as being seperated from their host nation and being used simply as a means of trade any other use for these territories under the fourth reich has not been acknowledged publicly.

I would like to state, as well, to the international community that once operations are over any part of the Eurasian Line under Nerotikan control will be open and trading rules that were the norm on the Line will remain. The acts of our neighbor, The Russian Federation, will be looked at as being niave. This operation is not against the Fourth Reich, we have not declared war and will not unless war is declared on us, this is liberation only to give the Kazaks and their neighbors as well as our fellow russians under Reich control freedom in their region under local government. If the Reich would contact us maybe a peaceful solution could be made but otherwise it is assumed that no nation would allow the takeover of such a large chunk of land by foriegn force so we accept that our actions are seen as aggressive and warlike and for this we are sorry.

Our relations with Cotland, we would like to keep neutral if possible. We only want whats best for our neighbors and here the best thing we can do is free them from colonial control. It seems though, that when we our former state of the USR was under invasion no one in the community spoke up. We lost serveral states to Cotland and everyone sat back and allowed it without a word of protest, I would prefer if this international community wasnt so confusing on their attitudes toward this sort of liberations because as I and the Council I represent see it this community takes actions only when an OA member is involved, and even then the support is given to OA members during aggressive moves as Cotlands was against us.

Now I demand that this community finally decide, The October Alliance from this states view is an utter failure of politics as it excludes all nations not apart of it and supports only the OA and any actions member states take, to keep the OA in its current state or allow some sort of international alliance to be formed under the consent of ALL stablized nations. It has become so that to not be a member of the OA is to be a third world nation or treated like one, we are hardly permitted free trade to member nations, we are not recognized as a nation without being a member, racial discrimination is used in several member states and yet they claim to be free. Although this state does not share the fanatical views of the Federation by calling the OA an "evil orginization" or such along those lines, we do see the OA as a failed attempt, if it was one, at unifying the worlds nations.

If we could be allowed a free trade with our neighbor states, as well as internationally, the operations would not have been started but we do not see any change in the OA or its views against us and so operations will continue until Kazakhstan and its neighborring states are under Nerotikan control.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

With bated breath the Commonwealth has watched the events unfold over the past 72 hours. Once again this world has been brought to the brink of war by the actions of several misguided nations in their attempts to prove their strength.

The Commonwealth deplores the recent actions and statements that have issued forth from these nations. The EOL and the Cottish Realm are, some would say deliberately, stoking the fire that was ignited by Russia and the USR. The Commonwealth wishes to take no part in this destructive debate, and as already shown we are simply interested in safeguarding our own prosperity.

The Russian Federation laid out a plan to keep the Eurasian line open until a bypass, around their territory, could be planned out and completed. But due to the belligerent statements from Cotland and Layarteb, this plan was withdrawn by the Russians.

Blame must be apportioned out for this mess that these nations have wrought. A deal to allow trade on the line through Russia while a replacement section is built elsewhere, we think, is an excellent idea and one that should be put back on the table. In order for it to happen this requires that all belligerent statements be kept to, at the very most, a minimum.

The Commonwealth deplores the state of affairs that these belligerent and irresponsible actions have led other nations into. We care not for your petty squabbles. This fighting must end, for the greater good of the world community and for global trade at large.

-COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN-

Great news.

I thought I read here recently that Tyrandis' land was up for grabs, if so I'd like to take his part of Liberia.
And if anyone is selling up in the Pacific I'll be sure to give you a fair price!

Only available to those under 1,000,000 mi²

Meh, just another addition of reasons for the clusterfuck thats about to ensue no big deal. Just another point for never making deals with the devil, the devil will always try to screw you over.

Um? You broke relations with me not the other way around skippy.

^ Pushka agreed to temporarily reopen the Line to allow us to build a bypass, which is what we wanted at the very least, yet this was completely and senselessly ignored through the banter. I was prepared to write an IC statement welcoming the move but since I believe this has been withdrawn OOCly, I don't know how to respond- ICly. I think we've all got to take a small step back and realize what we're doing before this thing gets way too out of hand.

Yes exactly!

See all as I have predicted, now its war, congrats Cot. Will post a thread after work.

Everything that is happening you're brining on yourself. Way to go.

Eh, no its more like: Those that stab me in the back are backstabbers. You did exactly that.

So guys you're ready for the big one? Im going to try to make this a good RP to the extent of my abilities since thats the last RP I will ever make as part of EII, I suggest we set up a sub-forum at forsaken cause big RPs means a lot of bitching and we'll need to channel that somewhere away from NS.

Although if I can get through Rome...shit you just made things more difficult, asshole. Hmm, we'll see what Rome says about it, but this situation can not continue even if Rome allows me to get through his lands to mine having me backed into a corner like this will result in war...actually nvm, Lay won't give me my island back so i guess its still on. A bit less epic then I imagined, but Lay being the asshole that he is will obviously not be interested in resolving this thus I'll have to resolve it for all of us. I am not looking for war, I am not a warmonger, I have simply accepted its inevitability and am tired of dealing with unfairness.

So now you turn against Rome, the one most neutral person in the world who actually starts no fights against anyone now you're just casting him away as you did Mari and yet you wonder why nobody joins your TOA is TEH EVIL quest...

No need to set up another forum at my sites, I have a roleplaying & a debate forum.

Why should I give you my island that we traded fair & square that you now want back because you think that I have to honor MY commitments even after you gave up yours? Gee that makes sense...

So far this is okay but the ooc are beginning to degrade more and more into flaming and what not so let's all keep our cools and be cool. Offsite is the place to take the flaming.

Official Communiqué

The Realm's position is perfectly clear when it comes to military operations between the Fourth Reich and the Soviet Republic of Nerotika: The Realm will fullfil its obligations to the Fourth Reich in accordance with the October Alliance charter in the event of invasion of sovereign Fourth Reich territory.

As for the October Alliance being a "failed project", we beg to differ. The alliance is the sole survivor of the countless alliances that has existed on this Earth, and continues to be a strong, vital organization. The claims that the member-states of the alliance does not conduct trade with nation-states not in the alliance are also false, as the numerous free trade agreements the Realm has with for instance the United Eastasian Republics or the United States of Brink proves. The fact that the Realm doesn't have a free trade agreement with Nerotika may have something to do with the political climate between the Realm and Nerotika, or the war against the Realm that Nerotika recently lost? There are many reasons for which there exist no free trade agreement between the Realm and Nerotika, of which the October Alliance accounts for exactly zero of them.

In short, your reasoning is flawed. If you believe that the reason why we don't want a free trade agreement with you is because of the October Alliance, then you are sadly mistaken. And to use that flawed reason as an excuse for war, well that's just plain stupid. Fortunately, the world is a darwinistic place with little room for the stupid. Enough said.

[signed]
Rita Hansen
Secretary of State for the Foreign Ministry
The Realm of Cotland

Response to the nation of Cotland

We do not question relations between our states, we question relations between not just yours but you along with the entire alliance. Although actions inside this alliance are individual you act as a group in almost everything else. Maybe you've blocked everything out sence your apart of this coalition of powerhouse nations but the OA as a whole can be seen causing alot of the trouble in this world. The recent outbrake of arguements between OA members, excluding Hirgizstan who pulled himself away, is good proof. Both the EoL and your state have shown a great amount of stupidity by challanging the russian federation only in that by challanging them you give them reason to respond. You escalade situations way beyond the point they needed to be, this liberation would have been a simple operation between our state and that of the Fourth Reich. Instead you and the EoL brought yourselfs into the matter and provoked russia into closing the Eurasian Line, something that our state planned to leave open after operations.

You try to get the last word in and that will only make matters worse, now about the OA not counting for any of the problems between us is utter BS by our books. If you were not a member of the OA and you had invaded our state the way you did there would not have been any retreat and we would have played out the war right away with much more force, but the fact of the matter is you were an OA member meaning your invasion was ignored and the USR government left with only retreat to keep relations with the OA. When retaliation was givin against your invading force afterwards it wasnt just your forces that replied, there are several counts of EoL forces representing the OA against our forces.

There is no hatred against the OA from our side, we just dont believe its in the best interest of every nation in the world and only good for a few. There will be no declaration of war against any nation, the fourth reich included, as we do not concider this an act of war until combat units engage in large numbers. Even then only a declaration from the fourth reich will be acknowledged and returned, any declaration from your or other members of the OA will be seen as unpermitted aggression against our state and this time we will not retreat and allow you to take our land as you did before.

Now please, hold back your name calling as we do not deal with adolesenct words. If you are going to speak to our nation, do it respectfully or not at all as we give you the respect that you are not deserving by responding to these threats.

Open Communique to the Nation of Nerotika

Questions abode about free trade agreements. We participate in several economic zones sustained by trade among many European nations. The Nation of Hawdawg is also a member of TATO and participates in many of the economic zone projects within Africa. Limiting trade to just a few certain nations would be foolish. It should be noted that the Nation of Hawdawg was a viable investor in the BISE before it went defunct, in fact we reaped a substaintal income from stock profits generated within that market (we were a big deal in that market and were paid handsomely for investing in it), which is why the Nation of Hawdawg was concerned about Bjorn.'s status when he was threatened by invasion some time ago.

FTA's (Free Trade Agreements) are arrangements that are built and dismantled throughout the world over various reasons. For example the US currently has many free trade items with Brazil except for the one thing we could use the most right now, Ethanol. It is currently taxed at 150% to protect our Ethanol interests in-country. This is foolish, but still done.

Our nation has invested in the infastructure of various smaller nations when we saw the potential to increase both our bottom line and to improve the relationship we had with that nation. The nation of Hawdawg did this to help Ottoman Khaif when they took over a war-torn region that badly needed a shot in the arm economically (before he was ever considered for membership in TOA). We helped reconstruct roads, bridges and oil facilities to help start the economic engine in his country. We all have the freedom of choice to assist or not assist any we choose in whatever form we like FTA's, economic zones, tax breaks for foreign investment, etc.

Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg


Open Letter to all Eurasian Line customers

It is obivious the line has been closed to all of us that invested heavily in this project. Various diplomatic endeavors have yeilded little success. We wish to inquire as to the status of an emergency meeting of the nations financially effected by the Russian decision to close the line. We hope our friends in Asia will host this meeting so we can come up with a viable alternative to our pipeline dilemma.



Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg


OOC: As I said earlier we have some forces in NG's territory basically a few units of the rapid reaction forces. We won't be able to do much, but those troops will act if NG's lands are attempted to be taken. I don't forsee large groups of Regular Hawdawgian troops climbing the fences into Nerotikan lands, but the news media hasn't posted pictures of burned-crying children on TV or pictures of charred soldiers bodies yet.

Yea, I'm a lingering ghost that needs to stop bothering with checking up every so often..but..

Damn, seems all of it was inevitable..and, now, the sad thing is..when Pushka and Nero are gone, or the vise [trust in whichever you wish too, respectively], there won't be much to do on here..I mean, you can all have your downfall RPs, or you could finally just turn on one another, or..just sit and drum your fingers on a world that will not budge..

In either case, will be interesting to see how it fans out.

So now you turn against Rome, the one most neutral person in the world who actually starts no fights against anyone now you're just casting him away as you did Mari and yet you wonder why nobody joins your TOA is TEH EVIL quest...

Im not going against Rome I never said that, a deal however might be worked out, Im not getting Rome involved in this but a deal with Rome is the only alternative to war against Cotland so thats a direction I would like to look at since I am not a warmonger. As for Mari, he was never on my side in the first place I didn't drive him away just forced him to reveal his true position.

Why should I give you my island that we traded fair & square that you now want back because you think that I have to honor MY commitments even after you gave up yours? Gee that makes sense...

Oh wait so me giving you an island for free also forced some sort of a commitment on to me? Really? That makes sense.

Oh wait so me giving you an island for free also forced some sort of a commitment on to me? Really? That makes sense.

Hey you're the one that pulled your embassy out of my land not vice versa I don't know what to tell you but if you think I should honor all of my obligations even after you ceased all relations, then you're far more delusional than I would have thought. You should listen to Brink man.

Anyways, I would like to offer an apology to everyone for my constant ranting. I am really not like this in real life, in real life where are basically 3 sides to me:

1. Quiet and neutral, the most commonly observed side, I try to avoid RL conflicts as much as possible and tend to remain neutral then my friends run a bitchfest against each other.
2. Uncle Vanya (no I am not crazy for naming it), the guy who makes fun of everything, emerges in the group of friends or family or while drunk. This guy gets me laid.

These two are what is the real me.

3. The pissed off side of me, I rarely ever get angry in the RL but then I do its basically the Hulk effect, I loose control and start beating the shit out of whoever is responsible. Its emergence is rare but it usually happens cause of stupid shit and stupid people, like my friend Kenny who believes that Mikel Moore is sponsored by terrorists...he bleeds a lot when Im around.

So yeah, Im not at all complex, many a person have said that I have no personality. And now I feel disgusted, I don't know but for whatever reason I act completely opposite to my better judgment when I am on the web, shit that I would brash off in real life I keep going and going with online, and all of that stuff leaves a nasty aftertaste and honestly Im tired of it. So basically, I apologize for the way I am acting, this is not me and over the next few weeks I will try to tone it down if not get the Hulk on the case and stab the motherfucker. This is not my apology for my IC actions only for my tendency to start OOCy bitchfests. Anyways, back to business, I feel like my time on EII is coming to an end, honestly I don't see a peaceful way out of this situation that everyone can accept, but I do want to take care of a few things before I go, those include settling my business with Pine in Argentina and doing a well played war RP against the TOA so I can get out with some glory and a bang. Also COD4 comes out tomorrow so that will delay me...so that all should be a couple of weeks, I would love to stay, this place has been fun but eh I don't think I can manage it with the current situation, two weeks to go though so time will tell. This is real Ivan typing, sadly you haven't seen this guy much. No more ranting.

Whats wrong with jolt it doesn't let me get to the last page.

Anyways, I would like to offer an apology to everyone for my constant ranting. I am really not like this in real life, in real life where are basically 3 sides to me:

1. Quiet and neutral, the most commonly observed side, I try to avoid RL conflicts as much as possible and tend to remain neutral then my friends run a bitchfest against each other.
2. Uncle Vanya (no I am not crazy for naming it), the guy who makes fun of everything, emerges in the group of friends or family or while drunk. This guy gets me laid.

These two are what is the real me.

3. The pissed off side of me, I rarely ever get angry in the RL but then I do its basically the Hulk effect, I loose control and start beating the shit out of whoever is responsible. Its emergence is rare but it usually happens cause of stupid shit and stupid people, like my friend Kenny who believes that Mikel Moore is sponsored by terrorists...he bleeds a lot when Im around.

So yeah, Im not at all complex, many a person have said that I have no personality. And now I feel disgusted, I don't know but for whatever reason I act completely opposite to my better judgment when I am on the web, shit that I would brash off in real life I keep going and going with online, and all of that stuff leaves a nasty aftertaste and honestly Im tired of it. So basically, I apologize for the way I am acting, this is not me and over the next few weeks I will try to tone it down if not get the Hulk on the case and stab the motherfucker. This is not my apology for my IC actions only for my tendency to start OOCy bitchfests. Anyways, back to business, I feel like my time on EII is coming to an end, honestly I don't see a peaceful way out of this situation that everyone can accept, but I do want to take care of a few things before I go, those include settling my business with Pine in Argentina and doing a well played war RP against the TOA so I can get out with some glory and a bang. Also COD4 comes out tomorrow so that will delay me...so that all should be a couple of weeks, I would love to stay, this place has been fun but eh I don't think I can manage it with the current situation, two weeks to go though so time will tell. This is real Ivan typing, sadly you haven't seen this guy much. No more ranting.

There you go, see we can actually get along here. There are many ways ICly for you to rectify the situation. First, you let us redirect the line, which was good that you did. That's all we really wanted anyway, not an abrupt end to it. Secondly, put the ambassador's back and you'll find that nations may be very forgiving. the Empire would not object to your repopulating your embassy and perhaps we could let you back into the canal. all hope is not lost yet. the fun part would be (damnit i am not using capital letters anymore, see this is teh byproduct of working for my company [we dont really use caps] anyway), that you can really get back into it and perhaps come out ahead.

crucial part to all things...take a step back, breathe, and if all else fails go to bed and come back in the morning. reading infernal always helps too.

I kinda dropped the deal cause no one seemed to have been interested, now I see that Rome and even Hirgy (what?) is and maybe where is more. Alright its back on the table, as for embassy relations, we'll see how things go.

I kinda dropped the deal cause no one seemed to have been interested, now I see that Rome and even Hirgy (what?) is and maybe where is more. Alright its back on the table, as for embassy relations, we'll see how things go.

A good rule of thumb about international relations: Until bombs actually fall on your territory there's still room for resolution.

Hell look at the Cuban Missile Crisis as a prime example. Even after the U-2 was downed and a Soviet submarine practically engaged, it didn't go too far. Look at during the Yom Kippur War when US & Soviet forces saw a sort of inevitable engagement against each other.

I kinda dropped the deal cause no one seemed to have been interested, now I see that Rome and even Hirgy (what?) is and maybe where is more. Alright its back on the table, as for embassy relations, we'll see how things go.

I was in a shitty mood yesterday, and after coming back after a good night's sleep, I saw that I may quite possibly have escalated things way past what I should have. For that, I appologize. I also failed to notice that the deal was back on the table, again, I'm sorry. Of course I'm interested in getting the line opened again, and I will attend a summit if one is held.

In short guys, I'm sorry for the escalation on my part.

Oh and Pushka, that thing I wrote in Cottish was just an instruction to all military units to go to heightened state of alert. No harm intended.

Well, the UER will be willing to hold the conference in Sapporo if anyone's interested; delegates will be welcomed from all nations whether they have diplomatic relations with the Republic or not.

On an OOC note, I'm glad to see that cooler heads have prevailed, and I trust that everyone will remember to take their accusations/rants/whatever to the offsite forums if there's a next time for this sort of thing.

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Official Communique

Message To: Marimaia
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler
Message Subject: Meeting in Sapporo

"As creater and ultimately commander of the Eurasian Line, I would like to be the first to say I will gladly attend the proposed peace meeting. We would prefer that a war in Russia be avoided, as casualties on both sides would be severely heavy.

"However, until a peace agreement is reached, Fourth Reich forces will stand alert and prepared for war and will not relocate from positions along the Nerotikan and Pushkan borders. The threat coming from the terrorist state of Nerotika still persists and while it does, our defensive capabilities will remain high.

"Thank you",
-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler

I got COD4! I was going to post a pic of the box but I lost the cord for my camera....I blame the french. Meh, the way its installing I probably won't be able to play before work, balls.

Official Communique

Message To: Marimaia
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler
Message Subject: Meeting in Sapporo

"As creater and ultimately commander of the Eurasian Line, I would like to be the first to say I will gladly attend the proposed peace meeting. We would prefer that a war in Russia be avoided, as casualties on both sides would be severely heavy.

"However, until a peace agreement is reached, Fourth Reich forces will stand alert and prepared for war and will not relocate from positions along the Nerotikan and Pushkan borders. The threat coming from the terrorist state of Nerotika still persists and while it does, our defensive capabilities will remain high.

"Thank you",
-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler

OOC: I know I didnt get the thread up quickly but I am not apart of this little peace hippy hug fest, im still moving troops on you and operations have already begun. The thread would have been posted yesterday but I got distracted and couldnt post it, I will be posting it right when I get home though. Sence I did post a small attention article I concider that the start of my operation, one which began before troops were in stronge defensive positions along the border on your side. This is not a declaration of war, just so you know.

Also, I just think its funny as hell how one second everyone is prepared and willing to blow each other to pieces and the next everyone is saying sorry and acting all nice. Just my thoughts on how weird people can be sometimes...

EDIT: Also, that little article post about the invasion was basically propaganda for Nerotikan people to support the operation. The troops began moving in at the time of the articles release and so really the article was a made up foretelling of what they were told happened in the operations.

So am I correct in assuming that the time of your initial post was the time when your forces started moving into position to carry out the attack?

OOC: I know I didnt get the thread up quickly but I am not apart of this little peace hippy hug fest, im still moving troops on you and operations have already begun. The thread would have been posted yesterday but I got distracted and couldnt post it, I will be posting it right when I get home though. Sence I did post a small attention article I concider that the start of my operation, one which began before troops were in stronge defensive positions along the border on your side. This is not a declaration of war, just so you know.

Also, I just think its funny as hell how one second everyone is prepared and willing to blow each other to pieces and the next everyone is saying sorry and acting all nice. Just my thoughts on how weird people can be sometimes...

EDIT: Also, that little article post about the invasion was basically propaganda for Nerotikan people to support the operation. The troops began moving in at the time of the articles release and so really the article was a made up foretelling of what they were told happened in the operations.

Huh? So they are moving into position?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13194020#post13194020

Autumn Offensive (Currently: Operation Crusade)

They are in position...well actually more then just in position, now crossing the border.

basically its like its been two days sence I posted the article (You, Pushka and Cotland did you bickering and while that was going on technically me and NG by then probably would have had troops facing off) but this thread is still on the first day of the invasion...get it?

Even before the unit spread into its sectioned advancing march 10 UAV’s flew themselves over the enemy city and below that were 45 Mobile Artillery unit’s finding positions to give artillery support to the invading unit’s. The artillery units were covered by three jeeps to every 5 artillery pieces, this provided infantry support to protect the units under any enemy attack from police units or military squads. In all the invasion would go off quick, the border was relatively unguarded from the Nerotikan point giving the Kazakh’s under the Fourth Reich to trust their neighbors giving enough reason to not spend the money on the cost to protect the giant border of the two nations. This gave the invading division almost clear entry into their neighbor with only a checkpoint where the guards were captured before the division crossed over.

As the 1st Division moved on Petropavlovsk using the M-51 highway elsewhere divisions began to gear up and move on their designated positions. The 5th Division, also with an invasion force from the 21st division, mobilized on the M-39 en route for Kustanaj, the invasion unit outlined the same standards as the 1st divisions did, the units would comprise of the same amount of men, equipment and armor. The 7th and 8th divisions would mobilize once a defense operation is done by the Kazak’s, this would allow plenty of reinforcements and several units for invasionary waves over the long border into almost any city across it as well as the ability to bulk up forces.

[OOC: Here I call Godmod against NG. He's got amble border protection, especially after having four IC days of warning that you're up to something, and his guards sure as hell would fight before you either captured/killed them. You need to cut that part with your forces taking down the checkpoint and moving into the country and let NG fight from the first meter of Germanian territory. He's got means to detect your 'UFOs'. Also, you don't seem to realize that this isn't a distant colony like you portray it to be, but I'll leave that clarification to NG - he knows that better than me.]

OOC: This covers basically everything that's happened thus far and it's taken a while to post [time has been limited].

The Emperor awaited the countdown from thirty as he was set to go live, on the air, addressing the Empire as well as the world. The week had a tumultuous one as the Nerotikans gambled with an intention to invade, which was seemingly inevitable by now, the mishaps the Eurasian Line, and just about everything else in the world that could have gone sour did and it was doing it fast.

The Emperor cleared his throat and took a sip of water as the countdown neared an end, beginning with a serious look on his face. "Ladies and gentlemen of the Empire and of the world. I have asked for this time to address all of you equally to a great turn of events that has taken over our lives. Just yesterday, the Council State of Nerotika announced, in no small way, their intention to 'liberate' Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan from the Fourth Reich. They have gambled a fools errand and their actions are inexcusable.

"The afforementioned territories need no liberation and despite claims to the contrary by the Nerotikan government, this move affects the global community equally. The nations of Layarteb, Hirgizstan, Cotland, North Germania, Eurasia, Eastasia, Rome, and Hawdawg use the Great Eurasian Line as a major trade route, some countries depending entirely on it to feed goods from Europe to Asia.

"The Empire did, at the time of its conception, vow to defend the Great Eurasian Line from attack and has placed forces in Kazakhstan since its inception. Today I ordered all Layartebian military units not currently operating on domestic soil to assume Readiness Condition Two and all domestic units to assume condition Three. Should the Nerotikan government seek to follow through with their announced intentions, they will find themselves in a direct state of conflict with the Empire of Layarteb and we will respond appropriately and justly.

"Our satellites have shown Nerotikan units staging along the Kazakh border and it is now our belief that it is only a matter of time before they tread incorrectly and cross the border. If such should happen, the Empire will not hold any reservations about eliminating in the entire Nerotikan war machine and implores the world to see this situation as catastrophic for our global economy. Already, prices have sky rocketed from the Russian Federation's premature and selfish withdrawal from the project. However, the Empire is pleased to see the Russian Federation's willingness to keep the line open until alternative routes can be constructed and we thank the Russians for this endeavor.

"In line with the turmoil in Central Asia, the Russian Federation's decision to withdraw its embassy from the Empire is a careless move that will only set back the improving relations the Empire has been seeing with the Russian Federation. Because of this matter, the Empire cannot continue to allow Russian flagged vessels to use the Panama Canal as we have no means to communicate with said government and until the Russian Federation resumes diplomatic relations with the Empire, the Empire shall continue upon this course of action.

"The Empire would also like to thank the Eastasian government and their people for holding an emergency summit in Sapporo and implores all nations party to the Great Eurasian Line to attend as well as parties not part of the line. We plan to discuss alternative routes and expansion for the Great Eurasian Line, including proposals to move the line to southern Africa and into North America by way of Greenland and the Arctic Archipelago.

"In closing, I would like to speak directly with the Council State of Nerotika. Your actions are foolish and will cause the unnecessary deaths of millions should you see them through. Peaceful solutions always exist but the Nerotikan people and government have no historical or present right or justification to their statements concerning Kazakhstan and Turkemnistan. Should you choose to attack the sovereign territory of the Fourth Reich, the Empire will not hesitate to undo all of your actions with a swift sword of justice. Should any weapons of mass destruction be used by the Nerotikan military, the Empire will not hesitate to return in due favor.

"Please take this time to think about your actions." The cameras went off and the Emperor stood from his desk. The Cabinet would enter in only minutes and they would discuss what would happen if the Nerotikan forces actually did move south, into the Fourth Reich. Elements of the Imperial Layartebian Military occupied a signals intelligence facility, an airbase, and a full army base inside of Kazakhstan. Radar and air defense units assigned to these locations could repel much of the Nerotikan advance in conjunction with those already in place by the Fourth Reich. At Atbasar Airfield, AWACS and J/STARS aircraft took to the skies to watch Nerotikan forces across the border. Escorted by Typhoon and Super Eagle fighters, they would stay far enough behind the front lines that they could avoid enemy action. Super Falcon, Typhoon, Vigilante, and Raven attack fighters would all prepare to stop any advance along with Cobras and army helicopters.

OOC: Bad move, Nerotika. Now your land = my land. :upyours:

Alright I got lodge tonight so I'll be back a little bit later but Nero, Cot is right you really can't say you're crossing the border and into the country with only 1 guard outpost and easily neutralized and also UAVs in his territory without him noticing, that is godmoding.

Statement of Intent
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

It is with a heavy heart that I come to the international community tonight to discuss the apparent imminent invasion of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan by Nerotikan Forces. The build up has triggered a ripple globally that will be felt for sometime. When the "liberation" talk came forth it was evident to us that the Nerotikans had dollar signs behind there interests not the people of the region. We do not have large numbers of forces in the Fourth Reich territories, but we do have some troops available that will assist in repelling an unwelcome combatant from an allies soil. Tonight I have placed the four units of the ECRF that are deployed in these said regions on notice, with the intent to assist North Germanian forces in whatever means necessary to effectively stop a takeover, should it arise.

Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg




OOC: I have two groups of ECRF forces in each territory Nerotika the specs on them can be found under my army link in my sig.

OOC: Bad move, Nerotika. Now your land = my land. :upyours:

I wouldn't be so quick about it buddy, might want to reconsider else you want me to get into this. Bomb him, nuke him for all I care, just don't occupy. I'll address that fully in IC during the Line conference.

Notice of Attendance

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg will have Prime Minister Gordon Wells himself attend the emergency conference on the Eurasian Line in Sapparo. We wish to thank our esteemed colleague from UER for hosting this event.

Official Statement from the Russian Federation

Russian Federation shall attend the Eastasian conference. Good day.

OOC: COD4 is awesome, bad part is I can't find the damned screens i took anywhere.

Right, so shall I create the conference thread? I think we have just about everyone for the Line issue except Nero, but he said he's not coming :(

Yeah, go right ahead.

FYI Guys: I will be away Thursday and Friday as I will be in Dublin. I will be attending the Sapporo conference but I won't be able to post anything on those days.

OOC: Pushka, wouldn't you counter-invade a nation if it attempted to invade you? Get involved if you like, but it will only make matters worse.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542643

The Sapporo Conference thread; we await the delegates with anticipation.

Mind if I attend the conference. Lay mentioned something about extending the line to Southern Africa.

Alright I got lodge tonight so I'll be back a little bit later but Nero, Cot is right you really can't say you're crossing the border and into the country with only 1 guard outpost and easily neutralized and also UAVs in his territory without him noticing, that is godmoding.

Well, I ment the UAV's were flying with the artillery unit. I will edit this out as it seems to have gotten past my first edit stage. But I do not for a second believe that NG has a military base gaurding every checkpoint, sure the checkpoints have military gaurds but in no way are those gaurds capable of defending against a full advacing unit (Unless the number of guards is a strange large number for a checkpoint that would have no reason to defend as I have never showed aggression near this area.) I'll edit it a little so NG can RP the guards defending but I refuse to say that they halted the advance at all.


I would also like to state that although he had 4 days it was OOC not IC, the invasion was done in one quick sweep at the time of my original post a few pages back I believe I already said this before. Therefore, unless NG bulked up border protection long before that (Which would be without reason), his defenses should be like a regular defense without much hassle. Unlike you, cotland, who claims to build long fences and militarize them I have not heard anything of the sort coming from NG. In conclusion I figure that a normal border has checkpoints along the major highways and small roads (Military gaurds but nothing more then at least a hundred at its highest and most extreme on each checkpoint).

Anyway, gunna go edit then...im done for the day cause im sick of looking at a computer screen (All I did in school today).

I would also like to state that although he had 4 days it was OOC not IC, the invasion was done in one quick sweep at the time of my original post a few pages back I believe I already said this before. Therefore, unless NG bulked up border protection long before that (Which would be without reason), his defenses should be like a regular defense without much hassle. Unlike you, cotland, who claims to build long fences and militarize them I have not heard anything of the sort coming from NG. In conclusion I figure that a normal border has checkpoints along the major highways and small roads (Military gaurds but nothing more then at least a hundred at its highest and most extreme on each checkpoint).

Anyway, gunna go edit then...im done for the day cause im sick of looking at a computer screen (All I did in school today).

So you think that assembling a invasion force many tens of thousands men strong is done overnight? Think again. It is entirely conceivable that NG detected your troop buildup in time for him to reinforce the border. Besides, you don't just invade at a random position - you try to go where the infrastructure (roads, highways, railway lines) are so you can save time, fuel and other resources. Anyway, take this discussion to the boards Mari set up for us.


EDIT: http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=9542#9542

I've got a great compromise to this problem of the Eurasian Line - build another through India! Of course... once this coup stuff in Saint Lazare dies out...

And on the issue of war, why on earth are we in this mode all of the sudden? I liked it when we were at least minimally friendly.

I've got a great compromise to this problem of the Eurasian Line - build another through India! Of course... once this coup stuff in Saint Lazare dies out...

And on the issue of war, why on earth are we in this mode all of the sudden? I liked it when we were at least minimally friendly.

Speaking of which, oocly, are either OK or Mari okay with that idea? We could have a new railway linking Istanbul [Constantinople/Byzantium/etc] with Beijing, running "south of the border". We could call it the "Great Southern Route"!

SL come to the conference. It is my goal to get NG to go along with expansion of the line into Africa and hell I didn't even think about India. The trading benefits of expansion will outweigh any costs.

I have a part of the Eurasian Line- I'm not sure if I said before I'd attend but just for clarity's sake, I shall be in attendance at Sapporo.

Is there any land to claim here?

Is there any land to claim here?

Why yes there is sir.

Andorra
Christmas Island
India (Arunachal Pradesh)
India (Assam)
India (Dadra and Nagar Haveli)
India (Daman and Diu)
India (Manipur)
India (Mizoram)
India (Nagaland)
India (Sikkim)
India (Tripura)
Juan de Nova Island
Australia (Cape York Peninsula)
Australia (Western Australia [part])
Liberia (part)
Malta
Northwest Territories (part)
Nunavut (part)
Dagestan
Ingushetia Republic
Kabardino-Balkar Republic
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Stavropol Krai

How large is western part of Australia? Is it 500k sq.? Your land chart says I can only claim up to 500K, So that limits my choices quit a bit.

How large is western part of Australia? Is it 500k sq.? Your land chart says I can only claim up to 500K, So that limits my choices quit a bit.

Australia (Western Australia [part]) 731,940.02

Yeah it is much larger.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm

Land area has most of it but then on land area deposits (tabs within) you can find some of the other ones in yellow.

Speaking of which, oocly, are either OK or Mari okay with that idea? We could have a new railway linking Istanbul [Constantinople/Byzantium/etc] with Beijing, running "south of the border". We could call it the "Great Southern Route"!

Aye I am good with it.

Australia (Western Australia [part]) 731,940.02

Yeah it is much larger.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm

Land area has most of it but then on land area deposits (tabs within) you can find some of the other ones in yellow.

How much of Liberia is left? Or does it tell me in the factsheet?

How much of Liberia is left? Or does it tell me in the factsheet?

20500

well within the limits






sorry all, a wayward vesta or imsdal struck the jolt server building and we just had that hiccup :)

I'm going to Claim:

Australia (Cape York Peninsula)- 21,500.10 Miles
Christmas Island- 52 sq mi
Australia (Western Australia 478,447.9 Sq Miles worth of it. Preferably to the southern part)

Total: 500,000 Sq Miles.

I'm going to Claim:

Australia (Cape York Peninsula)- 21,500.10 Miles
Christmas Island- 52 sq mi
Australia (Western Australia 478,447.9 Sq Miles worth of it. Preferably to the northern part)

Total: 500,000 Sq Miles.

ok. welcome aboard :)

could you please just fill this out and get it back to me? thanks.

!!!!ATTENTION!!!!

I have begun work on the "expanded spreadsheet" and I would like now the necessary help to fill in your part of it. All you let me know what you are in here and we can move along with this and make it really easy to work with everyone here. You can telegram me, you can e-mail me (JGDevlin@gmail.com), or you can post here. If you are going to e-mail it I would request that you use the header "Earth II Spreadsheet" so SPAM filters don't block me from seeing it.

It's simple and here are the categories. If you look at the example here (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet_files/sheet004.htm) you can see I filled out my portion as a guide.


Nation Name (what you call your nation in full)
Demonym (i.e. Layartebian)
Density (km²) (well you don't need to do anything but take a look to see if your are "overcrowded")
Density (mi²) (well you don't need to do anything but take a look to see if your are "overcrowded")
Largest Religion
Military Size (total # or % [during peacetime])
Independence/Founding Date
Capital
Government Type (i.e. Parliamentary Democracy, Monarchy, etc)
Economy Type (i.e. mixed, market, etc.)
Head of State (this is the king if you have one otherwise a president or someone)
Head of Government (whoever is in charge of the government, often this and the head of state will be the same)
Official Language(s)
Official Religion
Consitution (yes/no)
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $)
Summer Time (yes/no)
Time Zone(s) (just the #'s please, i.e. for US = -5 to -10)
Calling Code (# i.e. US = +1 [you can use whatever you want just be wary that you might use things that others use so we'll work that out later if it happens)
Internet TLD (i.e. .uk, .rus, etc.)


Here are some helpful links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_states
You can look at the box to the right and that is a carbon copy almost of what we have here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym
Explanation of what a Demonym is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
Govenment types, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system
Ecnomy types

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain
Explanation of Internet TLD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_code
Explanation of calling codes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes
RL Country calling codes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_time
Explanation of Summer Time (if you don't know).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Timezones_optimized.png
Time zone map [4779 × 1979 pixel, file size: 1.34 MB] in PNG format.

Please help me out and help everyone out by taking the few minutes and filling this out and returning to to me or Marimaia.

Nation Name: Greater Australian Reich
Demonym: Australian
Density: Huh not to sure what you want here. So can you help me out.
Density (mi²): 263 million Australians
Largest Religion: Christinanity, Religions howver are mostly frowned apone, but allowed by the Reich.
Military Size: 3% Peacetime
Independence/Founding Date: November 13th 2006
Capital: Perth
Government Type: Fascist Republic
Economy Type: Free Market
Head of State: Führer Joeri Willem
Head of Government: Führer Joeri Willem
Official Language(s): Dutch, English
Official Religion: N/A
Consitution (yes/no): Yes
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $): Pound £
Summer Time (yes/no): Yes
Time Zone(s): -5
Calling Code: 321
Internet TLD: .us

OOC: Note I changed my Western australian claim to the southern part.

Nation Name: Greater Australian Reich
Demonym: Australia
Density: Huh not to sure what you want here. So can you help me out.
Density (mi²): ? Again ?
Largest Religion: Christinanity, Religions howver are mostly frowned apone, but allowed by the Reich.
Military Size: 3% Peacetime
Independence/Founding Date: November 13th 2009
Capital: Perth
Government Type: Fascist Republic
Economy Type: Free Market
Head of State: Führer Joeri Willem
Head of Government: Führer Joeri Willem
Official Language(s): Dutch, English
Official Religion: N/A
Consitution (yes/no): Yes
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $): Pound £
Summer Time (yes/no): Yes
Time Zone(s): -5
Calling Code: 321
Internet TLD: .us

OOC: Note I changed my Western australian claim to the southern part.

Density you don't have to worry about. Just tell me what you want to use as your population. Also, timeline wise, we're not up to 2009 so now sure if that'll affect you.

Density you don't have to worry about. Just tell me what you want to use as your population. Also, timeline wise, we're not up to 2009 so now sure if that'll affect you.

Edited. Also, what are the rules for flags? Am I allowed to use a swastika or not. I don't want to offend people, just would like to use it for Rp reasons.

I was wondering..am I too small of a nation to join?

Edited. Also, what are the rules for flags? Am I allowed to use a swastika or not. I don't want to offend people, just would like to use it for Rp reasons.

We follow the same rules as Nation-States does and they have a ban on all Nazi symbols so I have to honor that, sorry.

I was wondering..am I too small of a nation to join?

No you aren't but you are limited to under 50,000 square miles based on your population being under 100 million

We follow the same rules as Nation-States does and they have a ban on all Nazi symbols so I have to honor that, sorry.

That’s ok. So how much of Western Australia did I get, map wise. So I can try and figure out my nation fact book. Thanks!

That’s ok. So how much of Western Australia did I get, map wise. So I can try and figure out my nation fact book. Thanks!

I'll figure that out tomorrow not going to get that far into tonight but safe bet is whatever % that is of the full amount (I do things simply when it comes to that sort of thing).

I'll figure that out tomorrow not going to get that far into tonight but safe bet is whatever % that is of the full amount (I do things simply when it comes to that sort of thing).

kk, Thanks! Ya I probably won't start my factbook till tomorrow anyways.

kk, Thanks! Ya I probably won't start my factbook till tomorrow anyways.

Cool stuff...perhaps the Empire shall recognize tomorrow too. Right now though I'm going to write more of Infernal and go to bed. Night peoples!

How much is all of this worth?

Dagestan
Ingushetia Republic
Kabardino-Balkar Republic
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Stavropol Krai

Alright, I thought about it..

I'd like to claim Malta, Daman and Diu, & Dadra and Nagar Haveli.

Thank you thank you thank you if you allow it :D..

Beat the game and it inspired me, if I won't find the screenies I took I'll use fraps and beat it again on the weekend, that shit is hardcore. Operation Brotherhood will be revamped! Well...we'll see how all goes, not sure if Im staying on here for long enough to finish it.

Speaking of which, oocly, are either OK or Mari okay with that idea? We could have a new railway linking Istanbul [Constantinople/Byzantium/etc] with Beijing, running "south of the border". We could call it the "Great Southern Route"!

Sounds great to me; it can link up with Singapore while it's at it too.


While I'm at it, if anyone's got a piece of the Eurasian Line going through them or would like a piece of it, then consider yourselves invited to Sapporo.

Is Perth in the section of Australia that I claimed?

Is Perth in the section of Australia that I claimed?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that Perth is in Terronian's piece of Western Australia; if it is, then the major population centres in your area are Geraldton and Port Hedland.

Welcome to EII by the way, enjoy your stay :)

Alright, I thought about it..

I'd like to claim Malta, Daman and Diu, & Dadra and Nagar Haveli.

Thank you thank you thank you if you allow it :D..

welcome to E2.
please fill this out for me.

!!!!ATTENTION!!!!

I have begun work on the "expanded spreadsheet" and I would like now the necessary help to fill in your part of it. All you let me know what you are in here and we can move along with this and make it really easy to work with everyone here. You can telegram me, you can e-mail me (JGDevlin@gmail.com), or you can post here. If you are going to e-mail it I would request that you use the header "Earth II Spreadsheet" so SPAM filters don't block me from seeing it.

It's simple and here are the categories. If you look at the example here (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet_files/sheet004.htm) you can see I filled out my portion as a guide.


Nation Name (what you call your nation in full)
Demonym (i.e. Layartebian)
Density (km²) (well you don't need to do anything but take a look to see if your are "overcrowded")
Density (mi²) (well you don't need to do anything but take a look to see if your are "overcrowded")
Largest Religion
Military Size (total # or % [during peacetime])
Independence/Founding Date
Capital
Government Type (i.e. Parliamentary Democracy, Monarchy, etc)
Economy Type (i.e. mixed, market, etc.)
Head of State (this is the king if you have one otherwise a president or someone)
Head of Government (whoever is in charge of the government, often this and the head of state will be the same)
Official Language(s)
Official Religion
Consitution (yes/no)
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $)
Summer Time (yes/no)
Time Zone(s) (just the #'s please, i.e. for US = -5 to -10)
Calling Code (# i.e. US = +1 [you can use whatever you want just be wary that you might use things that others use so we'll work that out later if it happens)
Internet TLD (i.e. .uk, .rus, etc.)


Here are some helpful links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_states
You can look at the box to the right and that is a carbon copy almost of what we have here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym
Explanation of what a Demonym is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government
Govenment types, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system
Ecnomy types

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain
Explanation of Internet TLD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_code
Explanation of calling codes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes
RL Country calling codes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_time
Explanation of Summer Time (if you don't know).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Timezones_optimized.png
Time zone map [4779 × 1979 pixel, file size: 1.34 MB] in PNG format.

Please help me out and help everyone out by taking the few minutes and filling this out and returning to to me or Marimaia.

thank you.


update tonight peoples.

OOC: Doganya, I've used your NationStates nation name as I'm not sure what you'll be calling yourself here on E2, so if you're going to use a different name let me know and I'll edit this post.

IC:

The Roman Empire formally recognizes the independence of the Great Australian Reich and The Most Serene Republic of Doganya and would like to extend a cordial invitation for diplomatic and economic relations with both countries.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that Perth is in Terronian's piece of Western Australia; if it is, then the major population centres in your area are Geraldton and Port Hedland.

Welcome to EII by the way, enjoy your stay :)

According to the map on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth%2C_Western_Australia) Perth is a border town, so yes it's within Tristan Providence's territory.

Nation Name: The Fourth Reich of Germania
Demonym: Germanian/German
Density (km²) (well you don't need to do anything but take a look to see if your are "overcrowded")
Largest Religion: Catholicism
Military Size: 35%
Independence/Founding Date: October 7, 1986
Capital: Berlin
Government Type: Fascist Socialism
Economy Type: Mixed Participatory
Head of State: Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler
Head of Government: Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler
Official Language: German (50%);Others: French, Spanish, Portugese, Russian, Kazakhstani, Polish, Lithuanian, Latvian, etc. (50%)
Official Religion: None
Consitution: No
Currency: Reichsmark; $
Summer Time: Yes
Time Zone(s): Too many
Calling Code: +7
Internet TLD: .ge

OOC: Doganya, I've used your NationStates nation name as I'm not sure what you'll be calling yourself here on E2, so if you're going to use a different name let me know and I'll edit this post.

IC:

The Roman Empire formally recognizes the independence of the Great Australian Reich and The Most Serene Republic of Doganya and would like to extend a cordial invitation for diplomatic and economic relations with both countries.



According to the map on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth%2C_Western_Australia) Perth is a border town, so yes it's within Tristan Providence's territory.

OOC: Outstanding. I can use it as my capital. Thanks!

IC:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/jamessavvy/GREATERREICH.png

To: The Roman Empire
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We thank the all powerful Roman Empire for their support in our independence. We would most humbly request and Embassy exchange with your great nation as well as a signed Free Trade Agreement. Thank you for you hospitality.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

heh, believe it or not..

I filled it out at my dad's, and I'm at my mom's...mind if I post it tomorrow?

Diplomatic News

Upon review of the recent events unfolding in Australia the Holy Republic of Hawdawg wishes to officially recognize The Greater Australian Reich. We look forward to an embassy exchange and have made arrangements for the GAR to use free of charge a fully equipped complex in Stockholm for embassy purposes.

We welcome the further development of the Pacific Rim and look forward to working with the GAR on such projects in the future. We would be willing to enter into a limited FTA that would be renewable yearly upon the conclusion of a joint meeting of our Foreign Ministers. We have several ideas on how to expand trade that would be mutually beneficial to both our nations and look forward to discussing this in the near future.

While the GAR is establishing itself the Royal Hawdawg Navy offers itself to assist with patrolling the sea routes around the approaches of Perth from our bases in Papau New Guinea.


Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/jamessavvy/GREATERREICH.png

To: The Holy Republic of Hawdawg
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We thank your great humble nation for offering a diplomatic relations with our nation. An embassy exchange would be most suitable for our nation. A free trade an agreement would be exhalent in our growing relations. At this time we do not need to support of you navy but were thank you for your humble offer.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Lame Bums: Lame Bums is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Parthini: Parthini is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Squornshelous: Squornshelous is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Tyrandis: Tyrandis is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).





Pushka [Post 20865]: Land in "free claim" status.
Cotland [Post 20872]: Population upped, military size updated.
Rome/Push [Post 20973]: Affirmed.
Nerotika [Post 21074]: Thread added.
Tristan Providence [Post 21102]: Welcome to E2 land all entered.
Tristan Providence [Post 21104]: Stats added to the spreadsheet.
Doganya [Post 21115]: Welcome to E2 :).
Tristan Providence [Post 21118]: Yes Perth is yours, it's just on the border with Terro's land. It's very hard to see on the map. If I ever find a better Aussie map I'll redo it all. As Rome affirms (he's a superior geography whiz).
NG [Post 21122]: Thanks, stats added!
Doganya [Post 21124]: Of course that's not a problem at all!





New India Map


Cymrea: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Doganya: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Shiloba: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Spizania: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request.
request.




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Official Communique

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/General/seal.png

Priority: Normal
Recipient: The Greater Australian Reich
Origin: The Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Classification Level: Confidential
Subject: Recognition


The Empire of Layarteb would like to welcome the Greater Austrailian Reich into the world. The Empire is grateful that stability has come to your region and we wish you the best of luck in your endeavor to create a nation-state. It is our intention to bestow full recognition upon your state and we hope that the Greater Austrailian Reich sees fit to return recognition to the Empire of Layarteb.

We hope to open the doors of trade and exchange between our two states with the immediate allowance of 15,000 travel visas per calendar year. In due time, we hope to open an embassy in Perth and we will invite the Greater Austrailian Reich to do the same in Layarteb City.

Sincerely,
The Minister of Foreign Affairs


Official Communique

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/General/seal.png

Priority: Normal
Recipient: The Most Serene Republic of Doganya
Origin: The Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Classification Level: Confidential
Subject: Recognition


The Empire of Layarteb would like to welcome the Most Serene Republic of Doganya into the world. The Empire is grateful that stability has come to your region and we wish you the best of luck in your endeavor to create a nation-state. In the past, the Empire has had relations with your previous state, the United Squornshelan Republic and we have occupied an embassy in Malta for quite a long time now. We hope that this building can continue to be owned and occupied by the Empire of Layarteb. A view of this building can be found here (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Embassies/deathbatrepublic.jpg). It is our intention to bestow full recognition upon your state and we hope that the Most Serene Republic of Doganya sees fit to return recognition to the Empire of Layarteb.

We hope to open the doors of trade and exchange between our two states with the immediate allowance of 15,000 travel visas per calendar year. In due time, we hope to open an embassy in Perth and we will invite the Most Serene Republic of Doganya to do the same in Layarteb City.

Sincerely,
The Minister of Foreign Affairs


like the new formats?


Classification Levels

Standard: Standard classification is the normal level of encryption. It is equivalent to the standard levels of encryption seen on most secure e-mail clients.

Confidential: Confidential classification is a higher level of encryption than "Standard" but it is not heavily encrypted. It is used mostly for flash traffic to foreign countries and requires some additional decoding time. It uses 512-bit RSA encryption methods and has several key ciphers that change unpredictably.

Secure: Secure communiques use 1024-bit RSA encryption and several key ciphers within them that change unpredictably to ensure that message traffic is not hacked or decoded. Access to said messages would require heavy cracking software and significant resources but it is not "uncrackable." It can be a viable level through 2010.

Encrypted: Encrypted classification is the second highest level of classification. It is uses 2048-bit RSA encryption and multiple key ciphers within it to ensure that cracking it would take such a significant amount of time to accomplish that, should it be done, the message's usefulness would have already expired. Though anything is crackable, because of the methods employed, this level is often considered "uncrackable" by current capabilities. To ensure revolving protecting, ciphers and encryption algorithms will change unpredictably. This level is sufficient until 2030.

Maximum: Maximum classification is the highest level of classification available. It uses 3072-bit RSA encryption and multiple key ciphers that change unpredictably. It can provide protection past 2030.

Experimental: Currently not a fully recognized level, experimental denotes a category using 15360-bit RSA encryption and multiple key ciphers that change unpredictably. It is not in full operational use as of yet.

Attn Tristan Providence & Doganya

We have "off-site" forums located below and there are a lot of aspects to E2 you'll find there.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/index.php

Lay you forgot my trade with Rome, he gave me Kemerovo for all my land in Brazil minus the city of Salvadore.

When is the conference thread getting here? Its kinda a vital part in my wage or not wage war on TOA decision making, plus I got a lot of things to say where ICly since its kinda hard to assemble that many national representatives in one place.

And where is Pine?

Hey, I'll get to responding to the messages once I can get a hold of the statistics thingy I made..

Nation name for EII, I suppose, is The Sovereign Military Order of Malta..Denon being Knights of St. John; Italian; Maltese

EDIT Oh, and of course, the Overseas Territories Pop is Indians.

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Lame Bums: Lame Bums is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Parthini: Parthini is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Squornshelous: Squornshelous is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Tyrandis: Tyrandis is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).





Pushka [Post 20865]: Land in "free claim" status.
Cotland [Post 20872]: Population upped, military size updated.
Rome/Push [Post 20973]: Affirmed.
Nerotika [Post 21074]: Thread added.
Tristan Providence [Post 21102]: Welcome to E2 land all entered.
Tristan Providence [Post 21104]: Stats added to the spreadsheet.
Doganya [Post 21115]: Welcome to E2 :).
Tristan Providence [Post 21118]: Yes Perth is yours, it's just on the border with Terro's land. It's very hard to see on the map. If I ever find a better Aussie map I'll redo it all. As Rome affirms (he's a superior geography whiz).
NG [Post 21122]: Thanks, stats added!
Doganya [Post 21124]: Of course that's not a problem at all!





New India Map


Cymrea: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Doganya: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Shiloba: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request. Please also post your population.
Spizania: Please see Post 20103 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12908472&postcount=20103) and fill out the expanded statistics request.
request.




Last Update: Page 1,391
Current Update: Page 1,409


Am I allowed to claim more land Via rp? If I role play for it?

Lay you forgot my trade with Rome, he gave me Kemerovo for all my land in Brazil minus the city of Salvadore.

When is the conference thread getting here? Its kinda a vital part in my wage or not wage war on TOA decision making, plus I got a lot of things to say where ICly since its kinda hard to assemble that many national representatives in one place.

And where is Pine?

I included it, I don't know what you're looking at. The conference thread is already posted and it is in the RP list as well, it was posted a while ago, perhaps yesterday.


Hey, I'll get to responding to the messages once I can get a hold of the statistics thingy I made..

Nation name for EII, I suppose, is The Sovereign Military Order of Malta..Denon being Knights of St. John; Italian; Maltese

EDIT Oh, and of course, the Overseas Territories Pop is Indians.

Cool..

Am I allowed to claim more land Via rp? If I role play for it?

When your population reaches the next bracket then you can. You could trade away land and seek other land though as long as you stay within your limits.

I included it, I don't know what you're looking at. The conference thread is already posted and it is in the RP list as well, it was posted a while ago, perhaps yesterday.




Cool..



When your population reaches the next bracket then you can. You could trade away land and seek other land though as long as you stay within your limits.

No that’s fine; I was just interested in Tyrandis' land in Australia. Guess I'll have to wait till by pop is at 500 Million. Which will be a bit so I don't know if i'll ever see that part of Australia.

No that’s fine; I was just interested in Tyrandis' land in Australia. Guess I'll have to wait till by pop is at 500 Million. Which will be a bit so I don't know if i'll ever see that part of Australia.

You never know :).

Yeah, sorry Lay, eyes...not working.

-snip-

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/jamessavvy/GREATERREICH.png

To: The Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
From: The Greater Australian Reich

e are very please that you wish to step towards diplomatic relations with our nation. An embassy exchange would be most pleasant in these endeavourers. Thank you.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

Cool stuff, don't forget to register off-site.

Alright people's I'm out for the night and I'll be scarce this weekend but I left you with some Infernal for the time being.

Message To: The Australian Reich
Message From: The Fourth Reich
Message Subject: Diplomacy

"As Führer of the Fourth Reich and the European continent, I invite you as Führer of Australia to tour the Fourth Reich in Europe and meet with me personally so we may discuss terms of trade, diplomacy, and other matters.

"As it appears we have similar governments, I am willing to offer assistance in the forms of trade, military, economy, law & order, and anything else. As the Fourth Reich has survived many wars, conquered many lands, and dealt with internal conflict for over 20 years, we are willing to offer our knowledge of how to not only survive, but to expand and grow as well. I am also willing to help supply your armed forces with some of the most advanced military hardware in the world.

"Please let me know if you are interested or not.

"Thank you,"
-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler

Message from the Russian Federation

We do not approve of or condemn the actions of the Union of Soviet Republics. However if any nation in this conflict attempts to annex USR land during their counter attack we will be forced to intervene on behalf of USR as we can not allow TOA influence to spread further in the region.

-Russian Ministry of Foreign Relations

Hey, I'm out for most of the weekend. I'll post IC replies here later this weekend. TTFN

GaR-

***Taps microphone and says is this thing on?***

Uhhm, Nerotika say are you going to post in the war thread, we are waiting.


Thanks,


Hawdawg

I'm here Pushka, what's up? The sooner we sort out the Argentine conference, the sooner I can RP my claim of that Brazillian land and Paraguay.

Ladies and gents, I just completed Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare after six hours of non-stop gaming. Fecking good game, but a sad ending. Pushka, you might concur?

Ladies and gents, I just completed Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare after six hours of non-stop gaming. Fecking good game, but a sad ending. Pushka, you might concur?

I might concur indeed. It was freaking awesome. Loving the multiplayer too, you got Xp and ranks plus special feats that make it awesome. Plus I loves me that sniper suit.

I'm here Pushka, what's up? The sooner we sort out the Argentine conference, the sooner I can RP my claim of that Brazillian land and Paraguay.

Replied, you're still thinking Im just going to let it go? Common now, but anyways waiting for your reply in the thread.

Alright my car's in the shop fixing the antifreeze leak wherever it may be (me thinks it's the return line) and I'm going to take a day off the depot tonight for some actual R&R so I guess I won't be too scarce but I do have to do some things around my mother's and grandmother's house so...

I'm back guys.

Welcome to the two new players. Enjoy the game.

Alright my car's in the shop fixing the antifreeze leak wherever it may be (me thinks it's the return line) and I'm going to take a day off the depot tonight for some actual R&R so I guess I won't be too scarce but I do have to do some things around my mother's and grandmother's house so...

So hijack a car on the road in broad daylight, drive to Best Buy and buy COD4.

So hijack a car on the road in broad daylight, drive to Best Buy and buy COD4.

Seconded.

We all played GTA III we know how New Yorkers roll.

We all played GTA III we know how New Yorkers roll.

meh I'm not from the South Bronx. I could just steal yours though.

Message To: The Australian Reich
Message From: The Fourth Reich
Message Subject: Diplomacy

"As Führer of the Fourth Reich and the European continent, I invite you as Führer of Australia to tour the Fourth Reich in Europe and meet with me personally so we may discuss terms of trade, diplomacy, and other matters.

"As it appears we have similar governments, I am willing to offer assistance in the forms of trade, military, economy, law & order, and anything else. As the Fourth Reich has survived many wars, conquered many lands, and dealt with internal conflict for over 20 years, we are willing to offer our knowledge of how to not only survive, but to expand and grow as well. I am also willing to help supply your armed forces with some of the most advanced military hardware in the world.

"Please let me know if you are interested or not.

"Thank you,"
-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler

-snip-

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/jamessavvy/GREATERREICH.png

To: Our Brothers of The Fourth Reich
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We most gratefully thank you for your warm welcome into the international community. Finding another nation that shares our common beliefs is but a rare find and we are most grateful. Our Führer Willem would be most pleased to tour the Fourth Reich. This will be a great opportunity on both of our parts to expand relations. We would first like to request and embassy exchange as well as a Free trade agreement. Second off we would like to discuses more o our mutual relationship. We would be most blessed if you will bestow some of your knowledge upon our humble nation. We are also interested in view some of your military hardware. Thank you Brothers.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

Greater Australian Reich Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13199663). Check it out

Greater Australian Reich Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13199663). Check it out

Pretty nice just one correction. We don't have an embassy exchange yet, just initial relations. We hope that will lead to an embassy exchange in the future though.

meh I'm not from the South Bronx. I could just steal yours though.

You going to have to play the next GTA to learn why you don't fuck with the Russians.

Official Statement

The Realm of Cotland shall not recognize the so-called nation-state of the "Greater Australian Reich" (henceforth refered to as the "Nazi State") on the grounds of their clear national-socialist (henceforth known as "nazi") policies being opposed to all that which we believe in. The Armed Forces of the Realm have on several occations been called upon to combat this evil and genocidal branch of the tree we call political ideologies, and nazi insurgents have attempted to overthrow the lawful government of the Realm in the past. Combined with the atrocities preformed against the Jews, one of the Realms largest minorities, the Realm has ample justification for not wishing the proliferation of such hateous ideologies in the world.

As such, all those who claim ancestry and/or citizenry to this Nazi State shall be banned from entering the Realm. Cottish corporations and businesses conducting trade with the Nazi State shall be blacklisted from future government contracts. Aircraft and vessels belonging to this Nazi State shall be prohibited from entering the territorial waters and aerospace of the Realm, which extend to 24 nautical miles, or 44.45 kilometers, from the territory of the Realm. Any economical assets belonging to the Nazi State found in the Realm shall immediately be confiscated and added to the Treasury of the Realm. In addition to this, the statues of the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139) shall apply.

This shall be the first and only communication directly to the Nazi State. Replies to this statement shall go unanswered. This state of unrecognizion shall remain until such a time that the Nazi State shall change its form of government to a more acceptable political ideology and abolish its clearly racist legislation.


[signed]
His Majesty's Council
The Realm of Cotland


OOC: Being nazi is a big no-no to the Realm. Good factbook though.

Official Statement

The Realm of Cotland shall not recognize the so-called nation-state of the "Greater Australian Reich" (henceforth refered to as the "Nazi State") on the grounds of their clear national-socialist (henceforth known as "nazi") policies being opposed to all that which we believe in. The Armed Forces of the Realm have on several occations been called upon to combat this evil and genocidal branch of the tree we call political ideologies, and nazi insurgents have attempted to overthrow the lawful government of the Realm in the past. Combined with the atrocities preformed against the Jews, one of the Realms largest minorities, the Realm has ample justification for not wishing the proliferation of such hateous ideologies in the world.

As such, all those who claim ancestry and/or citizenry to this Nazi State shall be banned from entering the Realm. Cottish corporations and businesses conducting trade with the Nazi State shall be blacklisted from future government contracts. Aircraft and vessels belonging to this Nazi State shall be prohibited from entering the territorial waters and aerospace of the Realm, which extend to 24 nautical miles, or 44.45 kilometers, from the territory of the Realm. Any economical assets belonging to the Nazi State found in the Realm shall immediately be confiscated and added to the Treasury of the Realm. In addition to this, the statues of the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139) shall apply.

This shall be the first and only communication directly to the Nazi State. Replies to this statement shall go unanswered. This state of unrecognizion shall remain until such a time that the Nazi State shall change its form of government to a more acceptable political ideology and abolish its clearly racist legislation.


[signed]
His Majesty's Council
The Realm of Cotland


OOC: Being nazi is a big no-no to the Realm. Good factbook though.


The Eurasian Government seconds the opinion of the Realm on this matter. The Eurasian Government will withhold reorganize of this "Nazi State" on the grounds of limiting freedom of religion.

Signed

Premier Nasir

OOC: welcome to Earth 2...nice job on the fact book.

The Russian Federation will have no relations with the nation of GAR. As always we uphold our policy of having nothing to do with Nazi governments. We are delighted to see that atleast in this case even some nations of TOA decided to not develop relations with this Nazi state.

-Russian Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs

ILDF To Test 'Air Defense Effectiveness' In Cottish Siberia
By Rachel Gutierrez

LAYARTEB CITY (LNN) - Earlier this morning, the Ministry of Defense announced the deployment of twenty mobile Crow air defense sites to Cottish Siberia. The spokesperson for the Ministry of Defense said that the sites will be tested for combat accuracy in the cold climate of Siberia, and to participate in the upcoming military exercise Sphinx 2007.

The sites, deployed from the Imperial Layartebian Defense Forces, provide air defense throughout the Empire of Layarteb for 'high-value' targets such as military bases, cities, and nuclear missile sites.

The Crow replaced the long-standing PATRIOT missile in the early 2000s after advanced versions of the PAC-4 were fielded out for an entirely new system. Developed in secrecy, the Crow was publically announced in 2003 after it served for two years defending the skies around Layarteb City. Available in both conventional and thermonuclear capabilities, the Crow can provide superior air coverage for 250 miles while engaging multiple targets, simultaneously.

A spokesman from the Ministry of Defense cited the impressive testing record of the Crow, calling it the best long-range surface-to-air system in the world.

Layartebian News Network (c) All Rights Reserved

OOC: Alright since the conference isn't moving as fast as I would like it I'll do this now.

IC:

Official Statement from the Russian Federation

Ladies and gentlemen of the world, today the future of this planet hangs in the balance. A barrel of gunpowder already exists today that will if nothing is done erupt and bring about a war the likes of which our world has never seen. The Russian Federation is a peace loving nation however due to the circumstances we will be forced to start military action against the nations of TOA unless the numerous issues we have with the said alliance and the issues that alliance has with us are worked out. With a heavy heart I have initiated Operation Stal, perhaps you have heard about it we have never kept the name a secret. Under Operation Stal the Russian Federation economy is to be transformed for only one purpose to fight one last war and to impact as much punishment upon the enemy as possible. By the end of its cycle we will have 25 million standing troops, 50 million reserves as well as millions more in para-military national defense brigades. We will increase the production of military machines a hundred fold to ensure that our troops are provided with the best equipment modern technology can create. In an event that nothing changes and a war does start we will be ready. The second step is to postpone this spring's Presidential elections indefinitely till the nation has come through the great struggle that is to come. Once again I would like to say that I am not a warmonger and neither am I a madman, for 10 years I lead this nation and together with me my people achieved much but I am tired of it, my only wish is to retire, grow old and maybe in a few years then they grow up, take my grandchildren fishing but what I am forced to do is to lead my nation into its last stand, the last epic struggle that will bring death to millions of people around the world and shatter global economy. My duty to my country does not allow me to step down, I know that I am capable of leading my nation in this dark time and that I shall do. The gears of fate are already in motion, Realm of Cotland's move to cut us off from our western most holdings in Russia as well as USR's war against the Fourth Reich that will most likely result in annexation of USR land, something that we can not allow. These are grounds for military action, these are the spark that will set off the barrel of gunpowder. As my people always believed however, hope dies last, and I believe it too so I invite the LEADERS of every TOA member as well as the Roman Empire to come to a peace summit in Voronej in two weeks so that we may avert this crisis. I know the life of a national leader is a busy one first hand, but what can be more important then averting a world conflict and deaths of millions of your citizens. Even if we get through these most recent developments where will be new ones down the road that will most assuredly spiral our nations towards a costly, bloody war unless things change. We need to be able to trust you and you need to be able to trust us if all of us are to live in a world that is not constantly standing on the edge of a world war. I await your response, and may God be with all of us.

-Igor Stepanov
President of The Russian Federation

OOC: So basically Im inviting Rome and whoever is active in the October Alliance.

OOC: If you want to meet with the October Alliance you can't exclude some of its members *duh* because then it isn't the alliance present just actors within it. It isn't the alliance unless its all the members.

"The very existance of the Greater Australian Reich is an offense to the millions of Spizani soldiers and civilians that had fallen protecting the ideals of freedom and tollerance, whether it was in the wars against the foes that occupied the homelands of the Confederacy, or against the nuclear murderers that have killed fifty million Confederate Civilians in the past century.
Therefore we must call for a change of regime in this neo-nazi state, so that the people may once again be free."

In addition we wish to warn the natinos of the world that a disruption in SDI tracking radars will occur in the region of Baker Island will occur at some point during the next few days, this is a conventional and non nuclear occurence and will have no effect on the safety of the worlds myriad peoples.

OOC: If you want to meet with the October Alliance you can't exclude some of its members *duh* because then it isn't the alliance present just actors within it. It isn't the alliance unless its all the members.

OOC: Lets just say I saved everyone sometime and didn't call the specific nations, anyways, waiting for your response on the matter. On the other hand screw it NG is invited too, as much as I don't like Nazis, world peace is worth more.

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everything edited.

OOC: Just wanna check something, are Spaceplanes allowed?

OOC: Just wanna check something, are Spaceplanes allowed?

Negative. MT.

OOC: Just wanna check something, are Spaceplanes allowed?

Official Announcement

The United Eastasian Republic hereby declares a policy of non-recognition towards the 'Greater Australian Reich'; the presence of such a hateful ideology so close to our shores is a matter of concern for all Eastasians. We shall be monitoring the situation closely in case of any hostile moves towards our territories, and be assured that any violation of our waters or airspace will be answered appropriately. The Eastasian government will also be reviewing the status of the Eastasian People's Self-Defence Forces in light of this new situation.

(OOC: No offense man, but I don't think that a 'liberal-communist' nation with an openly gay leader would be at all happy with an openly Nazi nation rising up near their backyard.)

OOC: Just wanna check something, are Spaceplanes allowed?

Is this a weird double post which turned up twenty minutes after the first one, or are you pulling a "can we have a pool Dad, can we have a pool Dad, can we have a pool Dad"?

Negative. MT.

You gonna respond or acknowledge my statement?

You gonna respond or acknowledge my statement?

When I get around to it yes.

Official Announcement

The United Eastasian Republic hereby declares a policy of non-recognition towards the 'Greater Australian Reich'; the presence of such a hateful ideology so close to our shores is a matter of concern for all Eastasians. We shall be monitoring the situation closely in case of any hostile moves towards our territories, and be assured that any violation of our waters or airspace will be answered appropriately. The Eastasian government will also be reviewing the status of the Eastasian People's Self-Defence Forces in light of this new situation.

(OOC: No offense man, but I don't think that a 'liberal-communist' nation with an openly gay leader would be at all happy with an openly Nazi nation rising up near their backyard.)


OOC: You have a gay leader and you're British? Shit, learn something new everyday.

OOC: You have a gay leader and you're British? Shit, learn something new everyday.

Dude where have you been LOL!

Dude where have you been LOL!

At work.

Official Communique

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Priority: High
Recipient: Russian Federation
Origin: The Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Classification Level: Secure
Subject: Vronej Peace Conference


The Empire strongly disagrees with many of the statements made by President Igor Stepanov. The Empire nor any nation of the October Alliance has moved to directly threaten the Russian Federation. On the contrary, the Russian Federation has ceased diplomatic relations with several nations in the recent past spurning from unknown origins. Any move by the Russian Federation to "prepare for war" is a wholly unilateral move that has not been aggravated nor spurned by any moves made by the Empire or any member of the October Alliance. If the Russian Federation were not a warmongerer than it would not be preparing unilaterally for a war it intends on creating.

The Nertokian War against the Fourth Reich is but a war of their own aggression that is being responded to properly. The Empire has no intention of annexing or holding land currently belonging to the Council State of Nerotika nor do we encourage members of the October Alliance to do the same. The fears of the Russian Federation are entirely based on an irrational paranoia that the world is out to "get them," which is far from the truth.

The Empire feels that this peace conference is nothing more than a trap by the Russian Federation to drum up more irrationality and more unfounded reasons to prepare for a war that does not have to exist.

However, in light of the situation, the Empire shall attend the conference though moves to make some changes. Considering the aggression currently being shown by the Russian Federation, the withdrawal of Russian diplomats from the Empire, and the statements made by the Russian Federation, the Empire moves to have this conference hosted in a neutral territory and recommends the United States of Brink, who are seemingly not part of this conference. Should the United States of Brink accept, the Empire will gladly attend following the cessation of the Sapporo Conference and implores the remainder of the October Alliance as well as the Roman Empire to join, as were originally invited.

Sincerely,
The Emperor


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To: All Nations of the World
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We in the Greater Australian Reich will never stand down from our beliefs and ideology. We will stand tall and heads high with our Nazi brothers. Our minds shall not falter; our arms shall not tire until the Greater Australian Reich has made the world a better place for the Aryan race. Our nation will never fall. We will fight for the freedom and rights of our women and children; we will make this world a better world for our daughters and sons. We shall be, and forevermore The Greater Australian Reich.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

OOC: No offence taken. Controversy makes for good RP. Btw, not a Nazi in RL, just for role-playing. Just making sure I'm not putting the wrong impression.

OOC: No offence taken. Controversy makes for good RP. Btw, not a Nazi in RL, just for role-playing. Just making sure I'm not putting the wrong impression.

Don't worry, I'm sure people didn't get that impression. Always remember, nothing wrong with one's beliefs or opinions unless they do actual damage to others unjustly.

Official Communique

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Priority: Normal
Recipient: Global Community
Origin: The Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Classification Level: Standard
Subject: Sovereign Beliefs


The Empire is a firm believer that a state's sovereignty is the most unalienable and inherent right that exists. The Empire does not believe in any international law nor do we believe in any universal code of morality. A state has the right to do as it pleases within its own borders and that right shall not be intruded upon by any state of the world unless it is a direct and immediate threat to the sovereignty of another state.

The Empire may not fully agree with the policies set fourth within the borders of the Greater Austrailian Reich nor shall it endeavor to mirror them within our own borders. However, the Empire does not regard the Greater Austrailian Reich as a threat, direct or indirect, immediate or long-term, to our sovereignty and, as such, we shall not mimic the course of actions set fourth by some states of the world nor shall we condemn them.

Sincerely,
The Minister of Foreign Affairs


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Don't worry, I'm sure people didn't get that impression. Always remember, nothing wrong with one's beliefs or opinions unless they do actual damage to others unjustly.

Good point, thanks. BTW If anyone is looking for an embassy exchange, I'm willing to trade. Just send a TG, or give me a IC post, thanks!

Aight going to wait for everyone to reply before saying anything...but its obvious Lay that you don't want to make this easy, I thought we could agree on things but if you gave me a response like that I doubt others will give me anything else, thus we can't really agree on anything, thus I'll be forced to start bombing due to the situation...plus if NG actually shows up that will make things even more difficult, I doubt I can agree on anything with a nazi. Bah. Well, atleast I tried.

Official Statement-Holy Republic of Hawdawg

We find it quite ironic and timely that the Russian Federation comes forth with this latest resolution. We do not take kindly to ultimatums. While we are busy trying to salvage the network of Pipelines that fuel the world in Sapparo, your nation blindsides us with another quip demanding we meet for a peace conference or else? Sir may we remind you that we are not at war with the Russian Federation. Currently the only conflict at hand is with the Nerotikans. The action taken by the Nerotikans against North Germanian territory must not go unchecked and we are only assisting our associate in defending his territories. To my knowledge, we haven't openly declared what will happen with Nerotikan lands, heck for that matter his native lands don't have a soldier from a TOA nation in them, remember he crossed the border into Khazakstan. Please explain to me how this justifies you mobilizing troops, putting 25 million men in arms and building a giagantic war machine eerily similiar to the juggernaut the former Soviet Union put together in the late 1970's? Now your nation steps forward and openly begins the preparations for "all out" war, threatens to bomb our nation all over the fact that a group of nations came to the aide of an ally? I honestly can't believe you have the gall to summon us to a conference. The Russian Federation will build many more enemies than friends by handling business in this fashion. My response is this, make a definitive case on the Eurasian Line at Sapparo and we will see if we come to your conference in Voronejo. If you continue this crazy unfounded military buildup for "all out" war, we won't waste our time at your conference.

Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

hey guys, sorry i haven't gotten a chance to do much yet..

I'm at my dads, so here's the fact sheet thingy..

[Yea, if you haven't gotten it yet..I love the Crusades, so it was sort of cool to find out about the whole Malta thing with the Knights Hospitaller...]

Nation Name: Sovereign Military Order of Malta; Order of Malta
Demonym: Knights of St. John; Maltese; Italian
Population: 413,237 Malta; 220,451 Dadra and Nagar Haveli; 158,059 Daman and Diu.
Density (mi²):
Large Religions: 71% Roman Catholic, 23% Hindu, 5.3% Islam, .7% Unpracticing/None.
Military Size: 10,372 Knights [IE - Catholics and other Christian Religions]; 73,437 Territorial Guard [Mainly Indian; Leadership is Co-Order, Co-Indian]
Independence/Founding Date: Founded in 1080; Independence February 23rd, 1982. Orderial Territory of Daman and Diu Established May 30th, 1987; Orderial Territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli Established December 17th, 1986.
Capital: Valletta
Government Type: Oligarchic Autocracy; Military Junta
Economy Type: Free Market
Head of State: Gran Maestro Adriano Luici Ferrario
Head of Government: Gran Maestro Adriano Luici Ferrario
Official Language(s): Italian Defacto; Maltese, English, Hindi, Gujarati, Marathi, and Arabic Spoken/Recognized.
Official Religion: Roman Catholicism
Consitution (yes/no): Yes
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $): Scudo; Scudi Plural; Symbol is an O over an X, without the X appearing inbetween the Circle. For Game Purposes - S$
Summer Time (yes/no): Yes
Time Zone(s): GMT +1
Calling Code: +356
Internet TLD: .mt

Official Statement from the Russian Federation

It is truly sad that even in a time like this, then a world war seems almost inevitable nations find excuses for why they shouldn't spend time attempting to prevent such a war. We have our interests, our interests include not allowing any nation of the October Alliance to expand into USR territory, and with the way our relations have been for the past 15 years is it really such a surprise as to why we do not see it in our interests to have a TOA nation conquer USR land? We are not as much concerned about the Empire of Layarteb or the nation of Hawdawg attempting this as we are with Fourth Reich. It is a simple and very predictable scenario that will occur, Fourth Reich attempts to expand into USR land during its counter attack, we move our troops against the Fourth Reich, the rest of the October Alliance assists the Fourth Reich and suddenly we are at war with all of you and then we will be forced to bomb your cities. I do not understand why I have to explain this, it is obvious to even the naked eye. And then a different scenario, the Realm of Cotland decided to end our agreement concerning the movement of troops and merchant civilian traffic through their lands, effectively cutting us off from our western most holdings in Russia. Unless another agreement is reached either with the Realm of Cotland or with the Roman Empire we will be forced to act militarily against the Realm to get to our sovereign lands and I shouldn't have to tell you what that will result in. We are not offering you payment in retribution for our actions, our actions are always in line with our interests and our actions are always rational, we want a two sided agreement, we want to repair our relations with TOA but only if both sides want it, if one side does not then there is no point in any of this. The build up will continue until we see a solution to today's problems, in order for that solution to be created our nations' leaders must meet. I do not see why you should expect us to stop a build for a war that we know will come unless things change, putting guns aside is not how wars are won and until we see that the circumstances have changed and we are no longer being forced into a military conflict against the October Alliance, only when, will we stop this. You can look down on us all you want, but will that really matter then your cities are burning because you decided not to strive for peace? We will give our ultimatum on the Eurasian Line but if this war is to occur and it surely will if things remain as they are now, then the Eurasian Line, or whats left of it, will not matter one bit afterwards. Invitation to this conference is not an ultimatum, it is a proposition, it is an offer to meet and prevent a worldwide crisis, I thought that as a national leader you would be concerned with well being of your citizens and agree to attend, perhaps I have been mistaken.

-Igor Stepanov


OOC: Where was no Soviet Union on EII last time I checked, unless I missed something...

OOC: Where was no Soviet Union on EII last time I checked, unless I missed something...

OOC: Using a little historical referencing from modern day history to beef up the storyline a bit.

OOC: Haw I edited the post a couple of times so eh, if you didn't check the last version before replying please read again.

Nation Name: Sovereign Military Order of Malta; Order of Malta
Demonym: Knights of St. John; Maltese; Italian
Population: 413,237 Malta; 220,451 Dadra and Nagar Haveli; 158,059 Daman and Diu.
Density (mi²):
Large Religions: 71% Roman Catholic, 23% Hindu, 5.3% Islam, .7% Unpracticing/None.
Military Size: 10,372 Knights [IE - Catholics and other Christian Religions]; 73,437 Territorial Guard [Mainly Indian; Leadership is Co-Order, Co-Indian]
Independence/Founding Date: Founded in 1080; Independence February 23rd, 1982. Orderial Territory of Daman and Diu Established May 30th, 1987; Orderial Territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli Established December 17th, 1986.
Capital: Valletta
Government Type: Oligarchic Autocracy; Military Junta
Economy Type: Free Market
Head of State: Gran Maestro Adriano Luici Ferrario
Head of Government: Gran Maestro Adriano Luici Ferrario
Official Language(s): Italian Defacto; Maltese, English, Hindi, Gujarati, Marathi, and Arabic Spoken/Recognized.
Official Religion: Roman Catholicism
Consitution (yes/no): Yes
Currency (symbol too please i.e. $): Scudo; Scudi Plural; Symbol is an O over an X, without the X appearing inbetween the Circle. For Game Purposes - S$
Summer Time (yes/no): Yes
Time Zone(s): GMT +1
Calling Code: +356
Internet TLD: .mt

Decided to do something like the Knights Hospitaller, so I did some research about Malta and that and came up with this..

Hopefully i'll get the rest posted up tommorow, :D

Alright well Chapters 1 - 3 are complete with Infernal and like I said earlier, chapter 3 was really where it deviated from the previous attempt so, what do you think? I'm in the process of writing ch 4.

NG check TGs. Lay, I'll catch up on my Infernal tomorrow...also I had a few ideas for banners for that RP and if I am bored out of my mind I might work on em tomorrow if you don't mind. Kinda gave me a bit of inspiration for that artist within me that currently awaits the time when Im 40 so he can come out and write suicidal novels about how everything is bad (oh the big russian soul...and on and on)....so thats that.

NORTH GERMANIA CHECK TGS.

Is this a weird double post which turned up twenty minutes after the first one, or are you pulling a "can we have a pool Dad, can we have a pool Dad, can we have a pool Dad"?

The former, i hit post in firefox and changed the tab, it appears to have posted without leaving the write post box, so when i came back to it 20 minutes later and it hadnt moved from that box, i must have assumed it didnt post.
And the lack of spaceplanes will make things a little more interesting.... and probably make it safer

NG check TGs. Lay, I'll catch up on my Infernal tomorrow...also I had a few ideas for banners for that RP and if I am bored out of my mind I might work on em tomorrow if you don't mind. Kinda gave me a bit of inspiration for that artist within me that currently awaits the time when Im 40 so he can come out and write suicidal novels about how everything is bad (oh the big russian soul...and on and on)....so thats that.

NORTH GERMANIA CHECK TGS.

Yeah go for it.

The former, i hit post in firefox and changed the tab, it appears to have posted without leaving the write post box, so when i came back to it 20 minutes later and it hadnt moved from that box, i must have assumed it didnt post.
And the lack of spaceplanes will make things a little more interesting.... and probably make it safer

Haha! Don't you love glitches.

OOC: Haw I edited the post a couple of times so eh, if you didn't check the last version before replying please read again.


OOC: I admit the rewrite is toned down from the original post, but it still carries the same theme. I have a favor to ask Pushka, please do not rewrite things that potentially explosive. Changing details midstream really screws up others postings, imagine if ten people had responded to your post. That would have been ten folks that would have had to amend wrintings. I don't like to back track and amend my postings based on amended postings. Its a literary thing, I don't have the time to do that. I am going to leave my orginal posting alone partly because I don't have time today to amend it and partly because the basis of what I have said in it is still a valid point. I am going to post in Sapparo then I have lesson plans to write, school work to prepare for my urchins, and a football game to watch so I doubt I will be back today.


-Hawdawg

OOC: I admit the rewrite is toned down from the original post, but it still carries the same theme. I have a favor to ask Pushka, please do not rewrite things that potentially explosive. Changing details midstream really screws up others postings, imagine if ten people had responded to your post. That would have been ten folks that would have had to amend wrintings. I don't like to back track and amend my postings based on amended postings. Its a literary thing, I don't have the time to do that. I am going to leave my orginal posting alone partly because I don't have time today to amend it and partly because the basis of what I have said in it is still a valid point. I am going to post in Sapparo then I have lesson plans to write, school work to prepare for my urchins, and a football game to watch so I doubt I will be back today.


-Hawdawg

Well you haven't really replied yet to the post I was talking about aka my response to your post.

Another Vesta launch in RTL. That makes for 23 combat launches between Nerotika, Pantheaa, and RTL. Hooah!

Message to the Russian Federation

The Holy Republic is a peaceful nation, we have not threatened war with your government. Yet you wish to force us to the negotiating table with gunboat diplomacy? A proper path to peace would be sharply ramping down military buildups instead of increasing the manpower of your land-based army to 24 million active troops. We maintain we are only assisting an ally with the protection of his lands from an agressor. We are not the agressor in this action. The nation of Nerotika decided they should attempt to take a fellow nations land by force.

There is no soldier from a TOA nation currently on Nerotikan soil, don't assume you know the outcome of what will happen with Nerotikan lands. Does the Russian Federation possess a crystal ball they are gazing into? If so can we borrow it? If you are an ally of Nerotika, you have abandoned his cause rather quickly. If I was a Nerotikan I would be concerned about your position in your previous statements, you have all but given up on his quest.

As far as repairing relations, we are waiting on your government to take a position on whether or not the Eurasian Line will remain open until a reroute can take place. If your government chooses the right path for the economic viability of the world we will reopen the canal to commercial shipping to Russian ports, althought by your own admission, your trading with us is rather limited. We will trade with anybody look at our recent recognition of the Australian Reich as an example. We haven't ever had an embassy in Russia, so other than trade and or commerce implications our relationship won't change much no matter what course is taken.


Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg


OOC: Don't take this personally Pushka this is an IC post not an OOC post.

OOC: Don't worry I am past the whole taking things personally, although Hirgy does piss me off but I won't let that develop into a bitchfest don't worry.

IC:

Official Response from the Russian Federation

USR hasn't been our ally since we left GSO and their government collapsed. We are neutral in this conflict unless the Reich attempts to annex those lands. Let me remind you that we have a substantial amount of troops within the USR left over from a peacekeeping mission, if any harm comes to those troops a defacto state of war will also exist. Stability relies on many things, if we can agree on a trade agreement with you that increases stability. The point of the conference in Voronej is to bring forward a number of mutually beneficial agreements between us and those nations willing to attend to build up trust and to reverse the current situation.

Secret IC

Although officially we will deny it we are not pleased with the actions of USR, we have advised them against taking such actions and yet they persisted. Was it not for our prior relations with the Reich we would have most likely have ended this war by capturing USR capitol and arresting their leadership. Travel routes although frozen exist through USR and we will need them should the Realm of Cotland allow us passage to our western most holdings in the region. Suffice it to say the possibility of those routes being damaged is not in our interests. As you can see our actions are forced upon us by the circumstances.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13208932#post13208932
^ "The Winter War" is back...complete with a new government in Ontario and the rest of Canada. Enjoy.

As far as the peace conference goes- check my post in "The Sapporo Conference". Also, if a thread exists for the Voronejo Conference, direct me to it as I cannot find it.

To: The Roman Empire
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We thank the all powerful Roman Empire for their support in our independence. We would most humbly request and Embassy exchange with your great nation as well as a signed Free Trade Agreement. Thank you for you hospitality.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem[/CENTER]

We will accept both requests.

Its not up yet, still deciding on who will host it since I apparently am unfit.

Its not up yet, still deciding on who will host it since I apparently am unfit.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13208987#post13208987
^ I have agreed to host it if asked.

Yeah I saw, but we're all going to have to agree to it being there. Which shouldn't be a problem.

Hey everyone, I'll be out till Wednesday. I'll have another IC post then. ttyl everyone.

Yeah I saw, but we're all going to have to agree to it being there. Which shouldn't be a problem.

Would be nice to do it in Brink's land only because he hasn't got the chance to host one of our illustrious conferences yet and I know he has some sprawlingly beautiful cities (that's of course if he wants to).

Hey everyone, I'll be out till Wednesday. I'll have another IC post then. ttyl everyone.

Enjoy :).

Official Communique

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Priority: Normal
Recipient: Führer of the Greater Australian Reich Joeri Willem
Origin: Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Classification Level: Secure
Subject: Diplomatic Visit


The Empire would like to invite the Führer of the Greater Australian Reich Joeri Willem and representatives of your government to Layarteb City at the earliest possible conveience to discuss the furthering of relations between our two states as well as to foster deeper understand of our respective lands. You will be meeting directly with the Minister of Foreign Affairs. The Emperor apologizes for his inability to be present as he is currently attending conferences abroad. However, he has directed the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to conduct this visitation in his absence. Should you accept, please know that every anemity will be made possibly to your delegation.

Sincerely,
The Minister of Foreign Affairs


OOC: There will most likely be some protests but since the Empire has a ban on public protests it should be too bad. We are a rather free society though and we can't tell our people what to do all the time.

Would be nice to do it in Brink's land only because he hasn't got the chance to host one of our illustrious conferences yet and I know he has some sprawlingly beautiful cities (that's of course if he wants to).

Well sure, its just that Rome already agreed to it, but eh, sure whatever that works to just going to have to see if he even wants it.

Well sure, its just that Rome already agreed to it, but eh, sure whatever that works to just going to have to see if he even wants it.

INdeed it should still be his choice. If not, Rome it is :). I just hope somewhere tropicalish.

Chapter 4 of Infernal has begun...are you ready?

Alright I was wondering if you could help me out in Ride the Lightning. On September 12 (timeline) I am going to have a Vesta strike but it's going to hit a civilian air raid shelter (yeah basically a giant casualty farm). Yes the Anarchists will have used it for a small arms storage but there will be a lot of civies in there. When I post it could you post an international condemnation of the attack? Don't worry it won't foster EOL HATES YOU type stuff, I am actually asking for it to help my RTL storyline. Thanks

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448866

That's the RTL thread and I plan on putting it up there in a day or two

Thanks

Some of you may have just received that telegram and I apologize if anyone got it twice, I kind of randomly sent it out to my doisser nations so I may have sent it twice or not at all, who knows. Just keep your eyes out for it (I'll post the post # in the main thread here when I do it) and I would really appreciate it if everyone could just sort of condemn me internationally for this because it needs to be done to help the RTL storyline. Thanks.

By the way could you post the condemnation in the actual RTL thread? Thanks!

Layarteb, buddy, who do you think you're asking here? I'll gladly condemn you.

Layarteb, buddy, who do you think you're asking here? I'll gladly condemn you.

Good. I wrote it up already but I won't post it until perhaps Wednesday, give everyone a chance to see the telegrams. It's a real awesome one, 2,685 words long and definitely detailed.

Good. I wrote it up already but I won't post it until perhaps Wednesday, give everyone a chance to see the telegrams. It's a real awesome one, 2,685 words long and definitely detailed.

Check out SPDD-12 Voyevoda on Forsaken, and FEAR it.

INdeed it should still be his choice. If not, Rome it is :). I just hope somewhere tropicalish.

Dawson City is really great at this time of year...

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION

TO Führer of the Greater Australian Reich Joeri Willem
FROM: The Fuhrer of the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan
Subject: Recognition and Trade


Reichsfuhrer Willem,

Prior to our earlier classified communications, the Commonwealth has finally seen fit to recognize the Greater Australian Reich and will, at this time, offer your nation a Provisional Trade Agreement (along with the included framework that a PTA from the Commonwealth offers) and Diplomatic Consul exchange.

We hope that this agreement between our two nations will help your own nation to prosper with a large trading partner, and in return the Commonwealth can gain a valuable friendship and hopefully a future trading partner of scale.

Signed,

The Fuhrer

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION

TO Führer of the Greater Australian Reich Joeri Willem
FROM: The Fuhrer of the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan
Subject: Recognition and Trade


Reichsfuhrer Willem,

Prior to our earlier classified communications, the Commonwealth has finally seen fit to recognize the Greater Australian Reich and will, at this time, offer your nation a Provisional Trade Agreement (along with the included framework that a PTA from the Commonwealth offers) and Diplomatic Consul exchange.

We hope that this agreement between our two nations will help your own nation to prosper with a large trading partner, and in return the Commonwealth can gain a valuable friendship and hopefully a future trading partner of scale.

Signed,

The Fuhrer

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To: The Fuhrer of the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan
From: The Greater Australian Reich

We most humbly and gratefully accept your offer of a provisional trade agreement. Your acknowledgement of our government means allot to us in light of the past hostile replies to our nations attempts to establish international relations with other nations. We hope this provisional trade agreement will take our relationship with our Hirgizstanian brothers to the next level.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

OOC: There will most likely be some protests but since the Empire has a ban on public protests it should be too bad. We are a rather free society though and we can't tell our people what to do all the time.


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To: Empire of Layarteb - Ministry of Foreign Affairs
From: The Greater Australian Reich

The Führer of the Greater Australian Reich Joeri Willem will most graciously travel from the Reich capital of Perth to the Imperial Capital to attend a diplomatic conference. We hope this set of talks will better the relations between our two nations. We however need to know at what time you wish the Führer to arrive. We thank you for the invitation.


Führer of the Greater Australian Reich, Joeri Willem

OOC: Is there anything I need to do on the off site forums?

OOC: Is there anything I need to do on the off site forums?

No you're registered there so you're set there are a lot of topics there that might come in handy. Also, we try to keep the OOC debates offsite because they get heated and, well, we don't need the mods coming for our idiocy and shutting the place down.

No you're registered there so you're set there are a lot of topics there that might come in handy. Also, we try to keep the OOC debates offsite because they get heated and, well, we don't need the mods coming for our idiocy and shutting the place down.

Good plan. So any rps going on that, can be participated in?

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Yes Happy Birthday Earth II. You made it three years and wow what an amazement that is. I don't think any RPs on NS have gone on this long and look to keep going. I want to thank every member, past, present, and future for making Earth II a staplepoint of International Incidents. To those who have been here for an eternity, I hope that this has shaped your experience on NS and that you continue to stay with us as your know-how is what guides us forward. To our newer members, I hope we've made an impression on you and I hope that you find this as enjoyable and as rewardable as everyone else. To our newest members, welcome! Enjoy your stay and made it a long one. If you are new to NS, this is the place to come to learn RP'ing and a good place to put your foot on the ground and start.

Now for some special thanks:

Marimaia, thank you for your assistance keeping Earth II afloat and for keeping my ass in line. The dictatorial ways have long since ended.

RomeW, thank you for providing the neutrality and the reasoning behind some of our more irrational and idiotic moments and also for your superior geographical knowledge.

TOA, you gentlemen are friends and some of the finest RP'ers out there, regardless of what some people here say. Without us things would just be boring.

Brink, the man with the plans. If you guys listened to him some more we'd have some really more awesome stuff. Go support Brink as he's striving for the future.

Pushka, come on you know I'd mention your pyschotic, irrational, unpredictable, WTF ass. Despite our frequent row's (is that how you spell it? Mari a little help, I think it's a British word more than an American one) and your incessent desire to glorify the Rodina you're still cool in my book.

SL, the man who I wish could be here more often. You alone can be what Bjornoya was to us in the past and you can even give us more than he did. It was a shame to lose him but with you we've definitely gained!

To all those unmentioned, thank you for participating and continue to participate, we like having you around (the truth) and if you have friends, INVITE THEM!!!!


NOW FOR THE PRESENTS!!!

Alright we've got the land thing we increased a few days ago and now to SPACE! Yes you heard me right. Me and Mari thought of something else that would be pretty good. First of all, we're going to allow 2 space stations in orbit (we limited it to two because we can't just have everyone making a space station, that would just get a little ridiculous). Naturally you're going to have to cooperate and who knows it might be a ton of fun! Secondly, now for the best part, moon landings. Alright before you get too excited, we're not lifting the ban on moon colonies or shit like that. But we are going to allow you guys to land on the moon and what not and actually RP it. We sort of have put a black mark on the space area of E2 so hopefully we can do some more with it. Just remember, Modern Tech, and I'm sure most of you have landed on the moon in the past so chances are nobody is going to be the first to do it.

Keep going strong guys! 3 years down, let's go for another 3+!!!!


Take care!

Ah common Lay, I told you this before then I tried to open your eyes on the ice cream man global domination scheme. It all makes sense in my mind. My motherland doesn't need me to glorify it, it got more glory per capital then any nation on earth...I just hope they won't send me into the army cause honestly I'll get depressed cause of the shitty hours oh and the whole no pay thing. Happy birthday everybody, and many more. You bring the pickles I bring the vodka.

..pickles I bring the vodka.

PICKLES and Vodka? Man that's like putting ice cream with chili.

BTW Happy Birthday EII!

-Hawdawg

In light of the anniversary, I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you, Lay, for all your hard work. If it wasn't for you we wouldn't even have this RP, so thanks.

As for the space station idea- I like it; but I do have a question- is there a restriction on the size of either of the two space stations? I think we're all capable- individually- to build our own space stations, as the International Space Station's cost is US$130 billion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station).

Still, in light of the announcement:

IC:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13214806#post13214806
^ All interested parties sign up there.

A new post in operation brotherhood, this one is just a bit of transition since apparently my ass starts to itch if I spend a long time on one thing, but this is basically what my roadblock was in that story now that Im quickly getting through it I can get to the really interesting stuff, updates will be more frequent, atleast once or twice a week. I'll finish off this chapter either tomorrow or the day after.

REPOST FOR TRISTAN.



HIRGIZSTANIAN MILITARY YARD SALE

FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED!

After a recent update I find I have a lot of very nice and useful vehicles and aircraft currently in storage, just waiting for new owners. At knock-down prices everything must go!

700 JSF-35 Joint-Strike Fighter
4000 M1A3 Super Abrams MBT
100 F-14D Tomcat
1000 F-16J Fighting Falcon
10000 Leopard 2A6EX
10000 Merkava 4
5000 Challenger 2E
10000 AH-64D Apache Longbow
5000 RAH-66 Commanche
30000 M113A8 (Hirgizstanian made overhaul of the M113. Includes massively uprated engine, all new frame (it's bigger) modular armor package and a variety of turret's.)

All bids are welcome.

(FTA/PTA Nations only.)

well, I would like to say a quick happy birthday to EII and also throw my opinion on the space stations matter (As well as make up some excuse for why I havnt posted shit in Autumn Offensive...).

Anyway, the space station idea. Good concept and I like the effort but at the same time we need to continue with some realism, the EII orbit is still filled with debris leftover from Spiz's crazy kill all satillite attack so first I think its better if first you adress the cleanup for that...

well, I would like to say a quick happy birthday to EII and also throw my opinion on the space stations matter (As well as make up some excuse for why I havnt posted shit in Autumn Offensive...).

Anyway, the space station idea. Good concept and I like the effort but at the same time we need to continue with some realism, the EII orbit is still filled with debris leftover from Spiz's crazy kill all satillite attack so first I think its better if first you adress the cleanup for that...

Actually most of that should have burned up in some rather nice looking meteor showers by now, but ofcourse theres the danger that some lunatic wont do it again, the concept is absurdly simple *stares at Pushka and random nutty Texan Generals in his own military that are upset that they dont have nuclear weapons to ride on any more*

No you're registered there so you're set there are a lot of topics there that might come in handy. Also, we try to keep the OOC debates offsite because they get heated and, well, we don't need the mods coming for our idiocy and shutting the place down.

Yes, thats how Huahin bought it when he flamed Mei, not a good idea

ATTENTION WANTED!


So does anyone want to team up with the UER to build the second space station? The Eastasian government wants a Great Leap Upward, but is willing to share the fun with others.

Fenghuang Station needs a yin to the UER's yang to fully invoke symbolism and stuff, so I'm looking for someone who doesn't embody everything that the UER loves and holds dear.

Is there an Empire of 'Someone' who might be interested?


(OOC: You spell 'rows', as in shouting etc. as you would spell 'rows' as in rows of cars or something similar.)

well, I would like to say a quick happy birthday to EII and also throw my opinion on the space stations matter (As well as make up some excuse for why I havnt posted shit in Autumn Offensive...).

Anyway, the space station idea. Good concept and I like the effort but at the same time we need to continue with some realism, the EII orbit is still filled with debris leftover from Spiz's crazy kill all satillite attack so first I think its better if first you adress the cleanup for that...
Still waiting for your post. You should post there henceforth (I love using that term, though I'm not entirely sure exactly what it means...it just sounds so cool).
Actually most of that should have burned up in some rather nice looking meteor showers by now, but ofcourse theres the danger that some lunatic wont do it again, the concept is absurdly simple *stares at Pushka and random nutty Texan Generals in his own military that are upset that they dont have nuclear weapons to ride on any more*
Yeah, and they're still a long time away from getting them....and the memory of the fate of HMS Tambarskjelve still lingers freshly in the mind of the Cottish.
ATTENTION WANTED!


So does anyone want to team up with the UER to build the second space station? The Eastasian government wants a Great Leap Upward, but is willing to share the fun with others.

Fenghuang Station needs a yin to the UER's yang to fully invoke symbolism and stuff, so I'm looking for someone who doesn't embody everything that the UER loves and holds dear.

Is there an Empire of 'Someone' who might be interested?


(OOC: You spell 'rows', as in shouting etc. as you would spell 'rows' as in rows of cars or something similar.)
Just for kicks, the Realm would be involved in this. Doubling our chances of doing the moonwalk on the face of the moon plus improving relations with our big neighbor in the south even further. What isn't there to like? Plus with a kickass name such as "Great Leap Upwards", how can it go wrong? (don't remind me of the Great Leap "Forwards" - I already know about it)

ATTENTION WANTED!


So does anyone want to team up with the UER to build the second space station? The Eastasian government wants a Great Leap Upward, but is willing to share the fun with others.

Fenghuang Station needs a yin to the UER's yang to fully invoke symbolism and stuff, so I'm looking for someone who doesn't embody everything that the UER loves and holds dear.

Is there an Empire of 'Someone' who might be interested?


(OOC: You spell 'rows', as in shouting etc. as you would spell 'rows' as in rows of cars or something similar.)

Of course you and I are building one.

ATTENTION WANTED!


So does anyone want to team up with the UER to build the second space station? The Eastasian government wants a Great Leap Upward, but is willing to share the fun with others.

Fenghuang Station needs a yin to the UER's yang to fully invoke symbolism and stuff, so I'm looking for someone who doesn't embody everything that the UER loves and holds dear.

Is there an Empire of 'Someone' who might be interested?


(OOC: You spell 'rows', as in shouting etc. as you would spell 'rows' as in rows of cars or something similar.)

The Eurasian Government is interested in partaking in this station.

I didn't know that there was one in the first one, but whenever I'm done with the Indian Coup, you can count me in on this one.

Alright the RTL post is up here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13216729&postcount=543) for condemnation. Before you reply please take the following into account:

1. Post in the actual RTL thread
2. Please make it an actual IC post with some effort
3. Make it real, good, and don't be afraid to let loose a little bit
4. Please following the formatting style in post #1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9775125&postcount=1) towards the bottom of it {colors, italtics, bold, et cetera}

Thank you

By the way, concerning the space stations, participation is on only one of them at a time, just so everyone has a fair shot and the main station projects are now Rome & Marimaia.

Just for clarification- I can't participate in Marimaia's project then?

SL, I'll reply to your post tommorrow or friday if I find the time. Had a nice big detailed post written up...then the Blue Screen of Death appeared and ate it. That sucks. Does anyone know what Windows XP Error 0x0000008E means btw?

SL, I'll reply to your post tommorrow or friday if I find the time. Had a nice big detailed post written up...then the Blue Screen of Death appeared and ate it. That sucks. Does anyone know what Windows XP Error 0x0000008E means btw?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827663

^ Microsoft's respone. Seems like a program is trying to access something that isn't there and since Microsoft suggests that you need a new Service Pack, all you need is an update.

Just for clarification- I can't participate in Marimaia's project then?

Ja and I couldn't in yours. I think it'd be easier than way this way it fosters some sort of competition :).

The Fourth Reich officially condemns this act of civilian massacre on the part of Layarteb.

NG what's the chance I could get you to spiffen this up a little?

More like Cot's

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13216816&postcount=545

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543247

New thread.

Chances are good, but it'll be tomorrow, I'm pretty tired tonight.

Rome, Cot, thanks for the posts. They are great! Wait until you hear our reply (when all the condemnations are in), you'll be flabberghasted.

Some clarification might be in order. Mato Grosso is not Layartebian controlled territory and neither are its citizens Layartebian citizens. The territory is presently under Cymrean control but these events are happening before he assumed power over the region.

Some clarification might be in order. Mato Grosso is not Layartebian controlled territory and neither are its citizens Layartebian citizens. The territory is presently under Cymrean control but these events are happening before he assumed power over the region.

Was it yours at the time of the attack? Because whether or not it's under Cymrean control is immaterial- presumably our responses would occur at the time of the attacks, not now.

Was it yours at the time of the attack? Because whether or not it's under Cymrean control is immaterial- presumably our responses would occur at the time of the attacks, not now.

Yes I know that and no it wasn't under my control ever actually :). At the time of the attack it was unoccupied lands on E2 so I made up a government and a story, et cetera, like I did with the Amazonian lands.

Just for clarification- I can't participate in Marimaia's project then?

We don't need them man, we'll make ours more badass and macho, I saw a ball sack hanging from a car the other day, I think our station deserves some balls too, except bigger.

PICKLES and Vodka? Man that's like putting ice cream with chili.

BTW Happy Birthday EII!

-Hawdawg

What? In the ancient times the Russian Interstellar Empire engineered Vodka to be consumed with pickles, we were all sober back then and that shit got us drunk...of course where were some downsides, after we discovered the beverage we became attached to it and our civilization crumbled, its taken us over a thousand years but we're on our way of getting what we lost in terms of technology. Its tradition man, plus you don't eat the salty pickle (or maybe you do), you sniff it, plus Im in US its hard to get my hands on some dark Russian bread so Im going with the traditional second best.

Wow, go out for a day and theres a whole page to read. Anyways. I'll have replies u,p after I do a couple of other things. HAPPY BIRTHDAY EARTH 2!!!!!!

I'll try to start a thread tomorrow for our meeting. Kinda tired tonight.

Yes I know that and no it wasn't under my control ever actually :). At the time of the attack it was unoccupied lands on E2 so I made up a government and a story, et cetera, like I did with the Amazonian lands.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13154169&highlight=Mato+Grosso#post13154169

^ According to this, it was in the process of being annexed to your lands. So I don't think calling them "your" citizens is that out of line, given that, for all intents and purposes, the governments would consider that your land.

EDIT- I did make some edits to my post, let me know if I need to make more.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543284

The Great Leap Upward! All those who are not involved with the competing station may sign up; I believe that we already have the Empire of Layarteb and the United Federation of Eurasia onboard. The Realm of Cotland will be welcome if they pull out of the competing venture (Lay's idea, don't blame me).

Good luck to both station efforts, and may the one with communists win.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13154169&highlight=Mato+Grosso#post13154169

^ According to this, it was in the process of being annexed to your lands. So I don't think calling them "your" citizens is that out of line, given that, for all intents and purposes, the governments would consider that your land.

EDIT- I did make some edits to my post, let me know if I need to make more.

Amazonias & Roriamia are part of the territory, Mato Grosso never was. It was a bordering territory.

Hey Pushka, I posted in the Argentina thread a couple of days ago.

Hey guys, I'm still here..sorry I haven't done much yet, got a new game and been playing it a bit too much..:P

I'm going to compile my crap together and get to posting tonight, fresh start with the Diplomacy stuff?