NationStates Jolt Archive

Duke Barol:$700billion, 10sq miles by the coast and [b]no[/n] Non-Agression Pact.

no non-agression pact? hmmmm.... sounds fishy, ok, ill take it.
Deal!

(although i am worried)

That big island in Hudson bay isn't it?
I'll increase the deal to £800 billion.
im realy confused? isnt hudson bay in ny? why did you quote my antartic thread. unless i am completely wrong, then you can rip me a new a**hole

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9071735#post9071735

Nevermind got the wrong idea. Although Hudson Bay isn't in NY.

We would like to request that a NAP is signed immediately before the details of a possible alliance are worked out.

An alliance already exists between me, Zeeeland, and Huahin. It is Pacifinesia, feel free to join. I'll tg you the password to the region.

Sounds like a blast.

re-confirming 500 billion dollar sale of UAE from NR

Lay, is your storefront open

yep. were trying to make the alliance pretty cool. we just Involved in the Invasion of Namibia R.p. which im trying to make decent. any ideas let me know. namibias a huge coun try and deserves a Huge R.p. :)

Sure thing. We can go more in depth in the region's chat area or whatever else.

Lay can you update my claims to include American Samoa and Cook Islands i just bought them from RomeW and he confirmed.

im realy confused? isnt hudson bay in ny? why did you quote my antartic thread. unless i am completely wrong, then you can rip me a new a**hole

The Hudson River is in New York, Hudson's Bay is Canadian.

By the way, I've been working on this- it's not directly E2-related, but it is NS-related. It's basically a RP guide for actually making a country and running it, from funding programs to social make-ups right down to that last cobble needed to complete a road. On Word it is a little more than nine pages, but I think everything said needed to be said.

Anyway, I'm posting it here because I want opinions before I actually post this on II:

http://www.geocities.com/theranter2001/nationstates.html

Duke Barol: Deal, confirming sale of territory (except the 10sqmiles)

Huahin: No deal for Southampton Island, its a key part of the Celtayoshi Defence Plan. The reason you confused me is because you quoted DB's post, and there is no southampton island in antartica.

In actuality the Byzantine Empire lasted 1,100 years, so do you mean the empire Justinian and Belisarius conquered in Italy and Africa, or the empire after it overthrew the "Latins" and regained control over Constantinople, or their conquests in the 10th or 11th century (Antioch, Crimea, Sicily, Cyprus)? :confused:

bump (Lay, can u pleese update the claims and spreadsheet soon

Attention everyone!

I just talked to Layarteb on AIM, and he is very busy with RL for the moment. So just cool down and wait for him to finish what he is doing. He told me that he will do his best to try to post here tonight, but don't count too much on it. Let's just remember that it is a game, and that RL takes presedence over the game, ok? Layarteb will get to whatever it is you need whenever he can. Layarteb is a human being like the rest of us, so just chill. Go outside and get some fresh air. Enjoy the summer. It's only here once a year...

Zeeeland: Alright Moldovia sent over to NG.

Duke Barol: That's an acceptible way to do the whole six to eight week thing. (i.e. the TLS thing). Antarctica is yours.

Elephantum: UAE switched.

Teh Ninjas: No problem. Enjoy!

Hawdawg: No problem.

RomeW: Kreynoria thing done. Nice link there. You should have Euroslavia post it on his II thread.

Celtayoshi: Russian lands yours

Neuvo Rica: Gave your Russian lands to Celt. Antarctica given to DB. UAE switched.

Kreynoria: They were awaiting transition to Teh Ninjas.

The Soviet Sith: Welcome to E2 man!

I did some other land things. Check the Spreadsheet, maps, and claim list and let me know if I missed anything and please, when you tell me I missed something, post the post #s where you did it to make it quicker.

Second Claims Not Posted Yet

Varsola: Affirmation of Elephantum's Antarctica.

Oh lay, we missed you so much!!::sob sob:: Why must you leave us?::sob sob:: Oh? Whats that? Theres a nother world? ::KER-SLAP:: That'll teach you!!

2 things by the way, zeeeland is still not on the claims list. also, i think i have what was nuevo ricas antartica land, its not there ( i think)

Deal.

Layarteb I've had a land give off,

I've sold :
Me Russian Lands to Celtayoshi
Me Antarctic Lands to DB
unless you included it in already...

2 things by the way, zeeeland is still not on the claims list. also, i think i have what was nuevo ricas antartica land, its not there ( i think)

Zeeeland is there under the Maritime Republic. Your claim lists Antarctica (part). Damn dude...

Zeeeland is there under the Maritime Republic. Your claim lists Antarctica (part). Damn dude...
a:i was looking alphabetical, ...z...sorry
b:i was looking at the map, but ok.

hyperbia, if your out there, i would like your land in antartica

Duke Barol: That's an acceptible way to do the whole six to eight week thing. (i.e. the TLS thing). Antarctica is yours.

If we actually go through with this thing, I'm not sure how to do it. Do we just do it like I own his land, or do we do a special, "Protectorate" thing?

a:i was looking alphabetical, ...z...sorry
b:i was looking at the map, but ok.

I did some other land things. Check the Spreadsheet, maps, and claim list and let me know if I missed anything and please, when you tell me I missed something, post the post #s where you did it to make it quicker.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Kreynoria: If you're referring to the guide, what I meant is that, effectively, the Byzantine Empire went on a 900-year-long decline, because ever since Justinian took power, Byzantium became hyper-obssessed with only its form of Christianity (what would later become "Eastern Orthodox") that its repressive policies drove a stake in the heart of the loyalties of its provinces, especially in Rome where they pledged allegiance to the Pope. It thus became destined to become a smaller, more manageable state because it narrowed its viewpoint and saw itself only as a singular nation and not as an Empire (and once it became a smaller state it gained considerable stability- it spent 400 years after Justinian ruling over the Balkans and Asia Minor, and another 400 years after that essentially ruling Greece and Bulgaria). The Romans, by contrast, saw their state as "an Empire" and ran it accordingly- they never pushed an idea of a "singular nation" like the Byzantines did (letting all kinds of ethnic and religious groups fester across the Empire) and that's the major reason that the Roman Empire did last so long and left such a profound impact on our socities even today.

(For the record, I know that technically, the Byzantines *were* Roman, but they were really "Roman" in name only- the "cultural Roman" existed outside of the Byzantine Empire, and the Byzantines, especially after Justinian, really were a separate "nation" from the Romans even though technically they were not)

Layarteb: Thanks. :) Will do. Also, North Germania and I have agreed on the sale of Corsica to me.

Thanks for doing that stuff Layarteb.

This one ain't world war:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9083501#post9083501
[Celtayoshi Struggles to Maintain Order]

TG me to participate (RPing terrorist group(s))

Umm Lyra, I posted last week, why do you have me decree 12?

Duke Barol: The Hyperbian homeland will never be for sale, I am sorry. Now if you want anything else: drugs (not the illegal ones, the beneficial ones), chemicals, oil, steel, ice, cheap factory labor, construction crew, urban development projects, soilders, precission attacks to aid you terr.. er freedom fighters, or almost anything else; those are for sale.

[QUOTE=RomeW]Kreynoria: If you're referring to the guide, what I meant is that, effectively, the Byzantine Empire went on a 900-year-long decline, because ever since Justinian took power, Byzantium became hyper-obssessed with only its form of Christianity (what would later become "Eastern Orthodox") that its repressive policies drove a stake in the heart of the loyalties of its provinces, especially in Rome where they pledged allegiance to the Pope. It thus became destined to become a smaller, more manageable state because it narrowed its viewpoint and saw itself only as a singular nation and not as an Empire (and once it became a smaller state it gained considerable stability- it spent 400 years after Justinian ruling over the Balkans and Asia Minor, and another 400 years after that essentially ruling Greece and Bulgaria). The Romans, by contrast, saw their state as "an Empire" and ran it accordingly- they never pushed an idea of a "singular nation" like the Byzantines did (letting all kinds of ethnic and religious groups fester across the Empire) and that's the major reason that the Roman Empire did last so long and left such a profound impact on our socities even today.

(For the record, I know that technically, the Byzantines *were* Roman, but they were really "Roman" in name only- the "cultural Roman" existed outside of the Byzantine Empire, and the Byzantines, especially after Justinian, really were a separate "nation" from the Romans even though technically they were not)


Quite true, Byzantium was "Rhomaioi" only in name. It was culturally Greek, but the Byzantines tended to get indignant when called Greeks.

Is Nikolaos the Great still active in EII? I haven't seen him post in...well...a long time :confused: .

The New Age of Spartans has appeared on this Earth, and desires to buy the Roman Empire's remaining Caucasian territories.

Sparta is back. It will never be defeated this time. However, if anyone wishes to survive, they are welcome to become an ally.

I too believe that Nikolaos the Great should make decree 12 pretty darned soon. After all, he hasn't been active here for God knows how long. The last I saw from him in here was the invasion of Turkey in february. That's 4 months ago.

Sparta Dominion, if you get to buy the territories, I want to be the first one to welcome you to Earth II. Also, you will be my neighbor (and I don't like threats). Anyway, I always welcome a new nation wanting to become an ally.

Interesting, a new group of Spartans... I presume you're keeping with the ancient tradition of raising warriors from childhood, then? I'd love to see the Spartans in action after 2000 years.

The New Age of Spartans has appeared on this Earth, and desires to buy the Roman Empire's remaining Caucasian territories.

Done. For the record, Sparta Dominion means:

Dagestan 19,420.94 $237,412,729,832.12 * * *
Ingushetia Republic 1,544.41 $18,879,743,033.41 * *
Kabardino-Balkar Republic 4,826.28 $58,999,183,226.76 * *
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic 5,444.04 $66,551,073,105.38 * *
Stavropol Krai 25,675.79 $313,875,610,268.93

Now all of the lands I wanted to sell are sold. Thanks to everyone who bought land off me.

Quite true, Byzantium was "Rhomaioi" only in name. It was culturally Greek, but the Byzantines tended to get indignant when called Greeks.

Exactly- they were more "Greco-Romans" than "Roman", and that's the point I wanted to make. They may have believed that they were "Roman" and technically they were, but practically they were Greek. In fact, during the Middle Ages, the Byzantines were called "the Greek Empire" because even then Europeans did not think of the Byzantines as "Roman"- that designation went to Charlemagne and the later "Holy Roman" Emperors.

Sparta is back. It will never be defeated this time. However, if anyone wishes to survive, they are welcome to become an ally.

None of those dastardly thebans around this time...

Exactly- they were more "Greco-Romans" than "Roman", and that's the point I wanted to make. They may have believed that they were "Roman" and technically they were, but practically they were Greek. In fact, during the Middle Ages, the Byzantines were called "the Greek Empire" because even then Europeans did not think of the Byzantines as "Roman"- that designation went to Charlemagne and the later "Holy Roman" Emperors.

You are right, they were "Greco-Roman", and that suited them better then being just "Roman" would have.

Also, I don't think that the "Holy Roman Empire" deserves that name. It wasn't Holy, it wasn't Roman, and It wasn't an Empire. The "Not-so-holy German cities" would have been a better name...

I am still looking for someone to RP the terrorist group in my latest RP, if interested tg me.

One serious bump... NO POSTS FOR 8 ****ING HOURS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Celtayoshi: RP added.

Hyperbia: Your name came up. Show me the post where you posted. By the way, Lyra, is nothing near an abbreviation for me.

Kreynoria: Nikolas the Great is tough to judge to be honest. I mean he comes and goes, him and Euroslavia, usually at the same time. He's a good RP'er and has contributed in the past. I'll have to confer with Marimaia on that one.

Neuvo Rica: No problem.

RomeW: Cool. Well we still need NG to say so but okay.

Sparta Dominion: Welcome to Earth II man. Good to see you got some decent territories there. Just equate yourself with the rules and you'll be good.


Service Announcements

1. Yelm has surpassed 21 days of NS-inactivity.

2. Varsola has not logged in for a week and so we're still awaiting his confirmation of acceptance of Elephantum's Antarctican land.

3. We need a new Russia map. If anyone comes across something as well done as the Italy map or Cuba map or something of that nature, which I got at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) on Russia please let me know. I need something with dark, multi-pixel borders of the regions and stuff so that multiple recolorings don't mess with them. Unfortunately the one I have has all gone to hell. If you find one, telegram me and I'll send you my e-mail.

World War

World War I, E2 style, is officially ending on the 22nd. Unfortunately it turned out to just be a bunch of stalemates and Decree 12 stuff so, as RomeW has suggested, we ought to rethink the structure of Earth II and so on and so fourth because it has blocks of alliances and more or less, prevents anything from happening. We have been communicating through e-mail and he, I, and Marimaia are in agreement on that, as well as the 22nd thing and the next thing that will follow.

Starting immediately after World War, we are putting a one week moratorium on all new claims. This is to give me and everyone else a chance to rest. It's a real pain in the ass having to update maps and claims twenty times in a sitting because people can't decide what land they want so for that week any land deals, etc. will be ignored. Nothing will be saved and comes the end of that week you may start again. There will not be any holds or stuff like that during that time. We're not stopping RPs or anything so.

There may also be the forming of an Earth II UN. I know we tried that earlier so we're going to try again but a little differently, with some resolve to it.

Ummm, just a note: American Samoa and the Cook Islands are still Rome's on the Pacific ocean map.

Kreynoria']Ummm, just a note: American Samoa and the Cook Islands are still Rome's on the Pacific ocean map.

That map needed a major update. Done. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Seeing as how I have no need for African land, I'll give away the DRC to Squornshelous.

Though I already exploited the place bare of all natural resources >_>

Squorn, you have not posted your acceptance, non-acceptance of this, please weigh in.

I'm bored, but I don't want to start an RP yet until NG gives the tumbs up or down for the Polish Rebellion RP I wanna start...

And I can't do anything since its 8:30 and I have no methods of transportation to get anywhere(I'm 13. I can't drive, my bike is broken, and it's dark out.)

I saw Batman Begins today though, and I got new shoes, so the day hasn't been a total loss. I also got Knoppix today...

I'm bored, but I don't want to start an RP yet until NG gives the tumbs up or down for the Polish Rebellion RP I wanna start...

And I can't do anything since its 8:30 and I have no methods of transportation to get anywhere(I'm 13. I can't drive, my bike is broken, and it's dark out.)

I saw Batman Begins today though, and I got new shoes, so the day hasn't been a total loss. I also got Knoppix today...

I worked 8 to 5. Then came home and did some shit. I want to sleep. I also want to see that movie!

Decree 12 annexation: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=426745

I worked 8 to 5. Then came home and did some shit. I want to sleep. I also want to see that movie!

You work on Saturdays? You sound like my dad. Of course, he doesn't work all day every Saturday, but since he is temporarily taking the post of DCM(Deputy Chief of Mission, basically the Vice-Ambassador), as well as working his normal post(Director of the Narcotics Affairs Section, or NAS), as WELL as being the temporary Ambassador for a week or so, I fear I won't see him as much this summer :(.

And on the movie: If you liked Batman and Robin, then you A. Are insane and B. Prolly won't like this one. It's alot darker than the movie(it's more like the original comics were), and it's basically a new beginning. It wasn't the greatest movie ever, but it was the best Batman movie I've seen. I won't spoil the story, though.

You work on Saturdays? You sound like my dad. Of course, he doesn't work all day every Saturday, but since he is temporarily taking the post of DCM(Deputy Chief of Mission, basically the Vice-Ambassador), as well as working his normal post(Director of the Narcotics Affairs Section, or NAS), as WELL as being the temporary Ambassador for a week or so, I fear I won't see him as much this summer :(.

And on the movie: If you liked Batman and Robin, then you A. Are insane and B. Prolly won't like this one. It's alot darker than the movie(it's more like the original comics were), and it's basically a new beginning. It wasn't the greatest movie ever, but it was the best Batman movie I've seen. I won't spoil the story, though.

No I liked Batman 1, 2, the Animated Series, and Mask of the Phantasm. I work Saturday through Wednesday.

No I liked Batman 1, 2, the Animated Series, and Mask of the Phantasm. I work Saturday through Wednesday.

Ok, than you should like Batman Begins(as I said before, though, it's a whole new story).

And Saturday through Wednesday? What job do ye have?

Ok, than you should like Batman Begins(as I said before, though, it's a whole new story).

And Saturday through Wednesday? What job do ye have?

I work at Home Depot until school is done. I also work for a psychiatrist as his assistant all days of the week, whenever.

A shrink's assistant?! RUN FOR YER LIVES!!! HE'S AFTER OUR MINDS!!! (I really need to 1) get something to drink -and- 2) go to bed)!

I work at Home Depot until school is done. I also work for a psychiatrist as his assistant all days of the week, whenever.

Coo'

Seeing as how I have no need for African land, I'll give away the DRC to Squornshelous.

I accept the DRC.

A note of my own:

New thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9093973#post9093973

(Rebuilding British Columbia- Rome annexes Yelmish British Columbia)

If you want, Layarteb, I can edit the map myself to save you the trouble.

You are right, they were "Greco-Roman", and that suited them better then being just "Roman" would have.

Also, I don't think that the "Holy Roman Empire" deserves that name. It wasn't Holy, it wasn't Roman, and It wasn't an Empire. The "Not-so-holy German cities" would have been a better name...

Nice quote of Voltaire (who said that of the Holy Roman Empire) there. Anyway, my main point there was that the Europeans did not think of Constantinople as "Rome" and transferred it West, even if the state they created was not nearly as "Roman" as they would have liked it to be.

World War

World War I, E2 style, is officially ending on the 22nd. Unfortunately it turned out to just be a bunch of stalemates and Decree 12 stuff so, as RomeW has suggested, we ought to rethink the structure of Earth II and so on and so fourth because it has blocks of alliances and more or less, prevents anything from happening. We have been communicating through e-mail and he, I, and Marimaia are in agreement on that, as well as the 22nd thing and the next thing that will follow.

Starting immediately after World War, we are putting a one week moratorium on all new claims. This is to give me and everyone else a chance to rest. It's a real pain in the ass having to update maps and claims twenty times in a sitting because people can't decide what land they want so for that week any land deals, etc. will be ignored. Nothing will be saved and comes the end of that week you may start again. There will not be any holds or stuff like that during that time. We're not stopping RPs or anything so.

There may also be the forming of an Earth II UN. I know we tried that earlier so we're going to try again but a little differently, with some resolve to it.

Some points of my own that I want to raise about this:

1. I would like to say that I am NOT advocating the breakup of the alliance structures that we have here in Earth II. Some of us worked very hard to put them together and I want to keep them together.

2. Having said that, the tangled web of alliances prevents major global conflicts because it does not allow a big "us vs. them" setup to take place. Minor dustups may occur, but a big World War is out of the question.

So, in light of this, I think we ought to find new ways to interact with each other. So far, all we've been doing in RP's is being self-serving, and, while there is nothing wrong with the idea, we need to understand that we've created these large alliance structures so we have to learn how to use them for RP gain. How can we do this? Well, we should not be focusing our RP's on wars, because, as we've just shown, the structures prevent this from happening on a large scale. What we should be doing is more "peaceful" RP's, such as having economic crises like peak oil or social debates like the implementation of civil rights, RP's which lets us develop our nation's characters and perhaps create the kind of ideological conflicts that usually flare up in war (as most wars ARE ideological). We so far have no real reason to *hate* anyone here ICly, and unless we do that we can't have the big dustup that we all want. Plain and simple.

I also think that because of the alliances, we need to set up a UN, because we've shown a propensity to create massive links with just about everyone. The UN, thus, would make this official, and may provide more sources for conflicts- if, say, the UN passes a resoultion banning nuclear warheads a few of us will rise up in arms about that, touching off a diplomatic standoff that may lead to war (and we all need to understand that most of the time diplomacy does prevent wars, because no one wants to get involved in a costly war for no reason). Besides, the UN will also allow us to develop our characters, as the debates that come up will certainly reflect on the ultimate character of our state.

In summary, we really need to work on diplomacy, ideologies and trade, figure out who we are as nations and go with it. I know that we may be all restless for war, but to paraphrase (and twist) John Lennon's words, if we genuinely give peace a chance, we might be able to give war a second chance.

2. Varsola has not logged in for a week and so we're still awaiting his confirmation of acceptance of Elephantum's Antarctican land.

I accept that land. Also, I am a boy.


IMPORTANT NOTE: I will be on vacation till August and will probably not be able to get a post in. I am still here, so don't say I am not or try to steal my land. Thank you.

I am back.


-Hawdawg

Whats going on Sparta?

dunno. He deletes his posts before anyone gets a chance to read them...

Nice quote of Voltaire (who said that of the Holy Roman Empire) there. Anyway, my main point there was that the Europeans did not think of Constantinople as "Rome" and transferred it West, even if the state they created was not nearly as "Roman" as they would have liked it to be.

What!?!? I never even knew someone came up with that before me(although, now that I think about it, how could it not have been)? This is proof that people who have never seen each other will come to the same conclusion.



Some points of my own that I want to raise about this:

1. I would like to say that I am NOT advocating the breakup of the alliance structures that we have here in Earth II. Some of us worked very hard to put them together and I want to keep them together.

2. Having said that, the tangled web of alliances prevents major global conflicts because it does not allow a big "us vs. them" setup to take place. Minor dustups may occur, but a big World War is out of the question.

So, in light of this, I think we ought to find new ways to interact with each other. So far, all we've been doing in RP's is being self-serving, and, while there is nothing wrong with the idea, we need to understand that we've created these large alliance structures so we have to learn how to use them for RP gain. How can we do this? Well, we should not be focusing our RP's on wars, because, as we've just shown, the structures prevent this from happening on a large scale. What we should be doing is more "peaceful" RP's, such as having economic crises like peak oil or social debates like the implementation of civil rights, RP's which lets us develop our nation's characters and perhaps create the kind of ideological conflicts that usually flare up in war (as most wars ARE ideological). We so far have no real reason to *hate* anyone here ICly, and unless we do that we can't have the big dustup that we all want. Plain and simple.

I also think that because of the alliances, we need to set up a UN, because we've shown a propensity to create massive links with just about everyone. The UN, thus, would make this official, and may provide more sources for conflicts- if, say, the UN passes a resoultion banning nuclear warheads a few of us will rise up in arms about that, touching off a diplomatic standoff that may lead to war (and we all need to understand that most of the time diplomacy does prevent wars, because no one wants to get involved in a costly war for no reason). Besides, the UN will also allow us to develop our characters, as the debates that come up will certainly reflect on the ultimate character of our state.

In summary, we really need to work on diplomacy, ideologies and trade, figure out who we are as nations and go with it. I know that we may be all restless for war, but to paraphrase (and twist) John Lennon's words, if we genuinely give peace a chance, we might be able to give war a second chance.

Erm, I already have everything about my nation ready. In fact, before every revolution I have, I spend at least 3 weeks pondering it, coming up with ideas, structures, social classes, economic situations, military situations, etc.

Anyhoo, this is the one thing I miss about the first Earth II: There were ginormous wars going on all the time. I was actually involved in one of them, after I went to war with some country, I was winning, then my allies (The Borman Empire, the Generic Empire, and the Parthians) turned on me, massacred my people, conquered my lands, and n00ked me into the dust(but not before i n00ked them back).

Ahhh, I miss those days...

Hmm... What is the most powerful alliance on EII?

I accept that land. Also, I am a boy.


IMPORTANT NOTE: I will be on vacation till August and will probably not be able to get a post in. I am still here, so don't say I am not or try to steal my land. Thank you.

Surely D12 is D12?

Surely D12 is D12?
I second that.

Laya: I posted here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9013265#post9013265

never got a response though.
and then again my response on the main thead.

Also, is Yelm's antarctic land still avaible?

Could someone please roleplay Yelm in my D12 invasion of Tanzania, Kenya, and Djibouti please? Anybody? Wimpers pitifully with puppy eyes :( .

no worries krey il be up for an r.p. mate hook me up with a link to your thread... in case it aint on the main thread yet.. :)

anyways respect to micheal cambell a NEW ZEALAND golfer who won the u.s. open today. (n.z. time)

we put a lot of emphasis on a sport that we win at. ( being a relatively small nation we like to punch above our weight. so any victorys a victory no matter what the sport is lol)

Id drink if New Zealand won the Ping Pong championship or curling for example :p

Hmm... What is the most powerful alliance on EII?

The Confederacy, methinks.

Nope, I'd say either the NAANP, the October Alliance or the defense alliance I have with NG.... NATO can just go back to bed (propaganda)!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=426745

Have fun Zeee

no worries krey il be up for an r.p. mate hook me up with a link to your thread... in case it aint on the main thread yet.. :)

anyways respect to micheal cambell a NEW ZEALAND golfer who won the u.s. open today. (n.z. time)

we put a lot of emphasis on a sport that we win at. ( being a relatively small nation we like to punch above our weight. so any victorys a victory no matter what the sport is lol)

Id drink if New Zealand won the Ping Pong championship or curling for example :p

To be honest, I couldn't care less....

Nope, I'd say either the NAANP, the October Alliance or the defense alliance I have with NG.... NATO can just go back to bed (propaganda)!

Ah yes, the October Alliance: A bunch of old geezers who think they own the world. Trust me, the Confederacy is plenty powerful. We have myself, Rome, You, Hawdawg, and Elephantum(an a few more peoples).

That isn't what I deem a sensible reply. I'm hardly an old geezer, being a High School Sophomore, and by looking at the maps of territories, we do own quite a bit of the world. We're on top because we are the single greatest alliance of nations on E2.

Which is just my bold and aggressive way of saying "I'm back". Anyone who thinks that my lands fall under D12, and they might, I advise you to back off. Sharpish. Know that I am now an active and participating member of the World War. Anyone who is faced with the might and wrath of my armies, now is a good time to run away. All that I want, I shall get. Namely land, as it is scarce and in high demand.

hey guys sorry to tell you im going away for awhile....3 weeks at the most

Hopefully i'll be able to get to an internet where im going (keeping my fingers cross). But if i don't then don't be surprise if a new insurgecy springs up a couple of weeks from now

Well, The October Alliance has managed to stay in-tact for about 2 years straight (RL).

And people do a lot of talking until they have armies on their doorstep.

By "old geezer" I don't mean a REAL old geezer, but an old geezer compared to other NS nations.

Also, old geezers can be lovable :).

Also also, all advantages due to your countries population are lost after your oppnent reaches about 1.5 billion. Because even if you have 5 billion people, you could still be beaten by 1.5 billion.

A valid point.

So it's a damn good thing that we don't rely on our X-bazillion populations, yes? No, dear fellow. We rely on superior technology, tactics, and superior armies.

We rely on superior technology, tactics, and superior armies.

A highly paid, motivated, and trained army can destroy a larger force anyday. Look at what Israel did to Egypt and there associates in the Seven Days War. Large countries that sit on there laurels usually end up with a an army that is issued 2 bullets a day and every other soldier has a weapon (russian military doctrine in and around WWI). This spells bad news for morale and combat effectiveness.

-Hawdawg

What!?!? I never even knew someone came up with that before me(although, now that I think about it, how could it not have been)? This is proof that people who have never seen each other will come to the same conclusion.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire :

Contemporaries did not quite know how to describe this entity either. In his famous 1667 description De statu imperii Germanici, published under the alias Severinus de Monzambano, Samuel Pufendorf wrote: "Nihil ergo aliud restat, quam ut dicamus Germaniam esse irregulare aliquod corpus et monstro simile ..." ("We are therefore left with calling Germany a body that conforms to no rule and resembles a monster"). Voltaire later described it as "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire".

Your post:

It wasn't Holy, it wasn't Roman, and It wasn't an Empire.

I say we have a future Voltaire on our hands.

Erm, I already have everything about my nation ready. In fact, before every revolution I have, I spend at least 3 weeks pondering it, coming up with ideas, structures, social classes, economic situations, military situations, etc.

Anyhoo, this is the one thing I miss about the first Earth II: There were ginormous wars going on all the time. I was actually involved in one of them, after I went to war with some country, I was winning, then my allies (The Borman Empire, the Generic Empire, and the Parthians) turned on me, massacred my people, conquered my lands, and n00ked me into the dust(but not before i n00ked them back).

Ahhh, I miss those days...

Well, my points were general observations- most of the RP's here on Earth II have made little use of national cultures or even their political systems- for all we know, we could be dealing with seventy autocracies or seventy democracies. Some of our characters are well-known, such as mine and yours, but for the vast majority of nations here we just don't know a lot about them, and if we don't know anything about them it's harder to say if we'd ally ourselves with or against them. We also have to come to the realization that our nations here are not *all* economically self-serving (unlike what most of us here do)- some nations will need food, others oil, others minerals, etc. and we need to understand that. The bottom line is that most of us need to break out of our own shells and develop their nations RP-wise a little, so that we can properly build the structures that may be needed for war.

A highly paid, motivated, and trained army can destroy a larger force anyday. Look at what Israel did to Egypt and there associates in the Seven Days War. Large countries that sit on there laurels usually end up with a an army that is issued 2 bullets a day and every other soldier has a weapon (russian military doctrine in and around WWI). This spells bad news for morale and combat effectiveness.

-Hawdawg

It was the Six Day War but I'll stop nitpicking. Anyway, the Israelis managed to crush Egypt, Syria and Jordan largely on the basis that three of them were poorly organized and were caught off guard by Blitzkrieg-style assaults (on the first day, Israel sent several planes to the Sinai to bomb still idle Egyptian tanks). It should also be noted that Egypt and Syria put up a paltry response to Israel's tactics, giving off the idea that they really didn't care much for their land (the Jordanians, who held out longer than Egypt and Syria, actually did show some pride, which the Israelis respected). The Six-Day War was proof that instincts, tactics and desire are just as important as physical strength, because that is what won the day(s) for Israel.

Oh, and I have a new thread. It's where the Romans "discover" hockey:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9098451#post9098451

Wow, I'm surprised im being mentioned on the "big powerful nations list" I've always thought of myself as a smaller nation.

On a similar topic, can Marmaria, Rome and all current members of the MESC (Middle East Stability Coalition) please tg me, i need to make a rollcall, and something important may come soon. Any prospective members please tg me too. We have something important to work on....bwahahahaha!

Big Powerful Nations List?

Anywho, I think I am in MESC so I'll tg you...

i believe you are, if not you qualify

Is anyone ever going to read my annexation of Yelm's territories?

In light of Duke Barol, Varsola, and others going on vacation and the evident flaw in our inability to address vacation time with inactivity, as well as the objections voiced by many of our members, we have decided to introduce a new decree. Marimaia and I have discussed the idea of a vacation clause and so here it is. DB does not need to give away his land and get it returned and neither does Varsola.

Decree 13: In light of real-life and the strict requirements of attendance at Earth II, we will hereby make an exception for vacations. If any member is going on vacation for an extended period of time then he or she must notify the moderators, whether by posting or telegram or any other communication method. The dates of said vacation must be provided. Once affirmed, that member will not be subject to 21-day inactivity or 28-day inactivity rules, as well as Decrees 5, 8, and 12. The member will be put on vacation mode until they return and no land changes will be made without their consent while on vacation mode. Players must remember to, in their options, place their nation on vacation mode. If said nation is deleted by NationStates then it will be removed from Earth II in accordance with the deletion clause in Decree 8.

Hyperbia: So art thou going to be active in E2 because to be honest, one post isn't much.

Kreynoria: There's a problem with your annexation of Yelm's land. You have a population of 267m. You can claim up to 500,000 square miles. With all of his territory you have 1,789,602.28 square miles. You really need to trim that.

RomeW: Nah map editing isn't bad it just gets tedious when I have to do it so many times. Well put in post 5306.

Squorn: Done.


Service Announcements

1. The maps will be down for a day or two while I migrate to a new server.

2. Decree 13 is enacted, see post 5334.

3. Comes the 22nd I am purging the list of RPs to make room for only the ones that are active. So if you wish to weigh in and save me some trouble, please do. If any alliances do not exist anymore please let me know as well.

As Rome said about giving details about a nation's culture, governing system, politics, etc. I'll make a post detailing Germania's systems and then post it in here, or where ever appropriate.

I'm not anexing all of Yelm's lands, just Tanzania, Kenya, and Djibouti.

Mozambique, Algeria, Lesotho, etc. are still up for grabs.

And lay, could you trim off just enough of Tanzania so I'm at exactly 500,000 sq. miles (About 128,000 sq. miles of it)

Kreynoria']And lay, could you trim off just enough of Tanzania so I'm at exactly 500,000 sq. miles (About 128,000 sq. miles of it)

Okay.

A highly paid, motivated, and trained army can destroy a larger force anyday. Look at what Israel did to Egypt and there associates in the Seven Days War. Large countries that sit on there laurels usually end up with a an army that is issued 2 bullets a day and every other soldier has a weapon (russian military doctrine in and around WWI). This spells bad news for morale and combat effectiveness.

-Hawdawg

You also make a good point. I could and should point out that we strive to make our armies motivated, highly trained, and well paid, as well as well equipped, supported, and with better technology. But I figure that, as NG said, we all do a lot of talking until the enemy is at our gates. We'll have to find out later, yes?

New thread to discuss the potential for a United Nations in Earth II:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427047

We might as well start afresh with the idea.

Kreynoria: There's a problem with your annexation of Yelm's land. You have a population of 267m. You can claim up to 500,000 square miles. With all of his territory you have 1,789,602.28 square miles. You really need to trim that.


If Kreynoria does not want to trim up, I'd love to annex that frozen waste.

You also make a good point. I could and should point out that we strive to make our armies motivated, highly trained, and well paid, as well as well equipped, supported, and with better technology. But I figure that, as NG said, we all do a lot of talking until the enemy is at our gates. We'll have to find out later, yes?

If you knew my RP's, I do alot of talking until the enemy is at my head :) .

Also, you aren't the only people with highly motivated, highly trained, well equied, support, and with better technology(we're a technocracy, of course we're advanced)!

Hyperbia: So art thou going to be active in E2 because to be honest, one post isn't much.



Also, I'd love to post more, but it seems that EVERY time I post something it gets ignored.

See: My attempt to contact my nieghbors to get up trade relations and proper border crossings.
My inital entrance thread.
Three different "We'd love for you to join our war as mercs." and then never following up on it.
My 'genetic engeneering' thread.
Attempts to broker peace in my last non-main post.

wow, ive been gone for a while.
1.my alliance is dead. intergalactic one.
2. mesc? what are the requirementstststsststststs
3.tls, i feel slighted, you didnt mention me. :P
4.tls-a new voltair?-RUN FOR YOUR EVER LOVING LIVES!!!!!!!!!!
5.RC r0x0rz my s0x0rz
6.thank you very much lay :)
7. ng once told me that even a small weak nation, when used properly, can defeat a huge millitary.

hmmm, i think that about covers it. i should be on again before i go away.

the MESC is the Middle East Stability Coalition, and like it sounds, you need to be in the middle east or very close to it to join.

the MESC is the Middle East Stability Coalition, and like it sounds, you need to be in the middle east or very close to it to join.

I can't remember. Am I in it already?

If not, I'm in.

TLS, you are, remember that big Hogsweat thingy? i'll tg you the forum password if you forgot, and explain the basic idea of things

TLS, you are, remember that big Hogsweat thingy? i'll tg you the forum password if you forgot, and explain the basic idea of things

Yeah, I forgot the password.

However, I remember the alliance...vaguely...

I was this close to going through with my plans.

But life got in the way :(.

go check ur tgs

go check ur tgs

Kay.

Erm, we need a new thread...

we should do it on Lay's board for planning purposes

we should do it on Lay's board for planning purposes

Thats what i meant...

Layateb, myself and North Germania have done a land trade - Ukraine goes to North Germania whilst I get the Saratov Oblast in Russia, along with an...undisclosed sum of money, OK?

(I'm thinking a thread about the re-thinking process might be a good idea, so we don't clutter this thread)

As Rome said about giving details about a nation's culture, governing system, politics, etc. I'll make a post detailing Germania's systems and then post it in here, or where ever appropriate.

Well, that's not exactly what I meant, but you can do that if you want (because it'd be a helpful RP tool anyway). What I meant is that we need to do RP's where one can get an insight into your nation's culture and/or political system, just so the rest of us can "get to know" you better. For example, a RP about a new Government law gives us an insight on how your nation is run politically and how it answers new challenges, while a RP where a "radical" movement is being formed in your nation (such as a civil rights movement in a nation without civil rights) gives an insight into your country's social makeup. In short, in your case we really need to "get to know" your North Germanians, from the politicians who make the laws to the corporations who run the businesses to the commoners who give you your workforce and create the "mainstream" North Germanian thought. This was part of the reason why I did the hockey thread, because it'd allow me to present an aspect of Roman culture (basically the idea where the Romans love bloodsports, because the RL ones certainly did) and thus allow people to really get an insight into what it may be like to live in Rome.

Now, the point of such RP's is so that, by developing our characters, we know better how to interact with each other, and it poses new sources for conflicts. For example, if a nation has become totally dependant on oil imports, then that nation could be plunged into crisis if the oil is suddenly "shut off", while a nation who feels that they are being "dominated" culturally or ideologically by other nations could "fight back" to assert a dominance of their own. Basically, our wars need a purpose, and it's up to us to develop that purpose.

EDIT- The Corsica transfer needs a confirmation.

Just to let you know, as of thursday I will be away for 6 days, its nowhere near long enough to put me D12, but just in case someone wants to contact me, they can't.

I like the idea, Rome. If you want to help me start a thread about it, let me know. Everyone interested could reply with a description of the political climate, general social thought and opinion, response to conflicts (both internal and external), that sort of thing?

And yes, the land exchange between me and Andrehervia is confirmed. I get Ukraine, he gets Saratov Oblast for an undisclosed amount of money.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427305

Sign up (OOC) Thread for EOL Fleet Week

Will someone, ANYONE, please at least look at my D12 thread :(

NG land trade done.

Maps & Spreadsheet 100% working now!

( in response to Cotlands Couldnt care)COTLAND: ahhh that is your opinion friend not mine..... :) just thought id like to add sumthin. rather than " im back I hope you havent stolen my land bitches e.t.c."

a little positivity helps :)

la de da. im back again. sorry kreynoria and huahin, NG for not being able to R.p. for awhile.

( in response to Cotlands Couldnt care)COTLAND: ahhh that is your opinion friend not mine..... :) just thought id like to add sumthin. rather than " im back I hope you havent stolen my land bitches e.t.c."

a little positivity helps :)

la de da. im back again. sorry kreynoria and huahin, NG for not being able to R.p. for awhile.

.:.:.:. Translator engaging .:.:.:.

Failure...system failure...serious system failure..

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:eek: .:.:.:. Translator engaging .:.:.:.

Failure...system failure...serious system failure..

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

:) :p :D :eek:

.:.:.:. Translator engaging .:.:.:.

Failure...system failure...serious system failure..

.:.:.:. Translator broken .:.:.:.
LOL

Couldn't say it better myself. Zeee, what are you talking about? Speak in plain english. Oh, and we won't kill you for spelling correctly either.

LoL not my fault for speaking bad English you know... :) Its a regional colluquilism. (as in the crazy bastard regional colluqualism) the region is located just out of Auckland newzealand :p

ok Im a little incoherent at times. what i meant was Im just being friendly..

uhh sorry i guess :(

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427387
Terraform

My plan for the terraforming and eventual colonization of Venus. For those who worry about MT being introduced into EII, itd be hundreds to thousands of years before it becomes fully habitable

ok to be frank with you fellas. im just trying to be impressive with my vocabulary ( look ma i spelt that right) so Im sorry if ive annoyed anyone (understatement) with my slang and crude jokes Innuendo and what not

you sound completely different on the internet than you do in real life. ( Im not crazy honestly)... :)

now i got that cleared up lets get back to goo ol Earth II stuff yay!!!

Don't worry Zee. I don't see what the problem is. He clearly stated that he was back, thought he'd add something to a topic rather than just saying "DID j00 STEAL my LANDZ0RZ!!??!!!!!?!!!?!!!!!1111!!!!", said that being positive helps, and apologized for not being able to RP.

Jeez. It's not that hard.

Yep Zeeeland we kinda need to have the peace conference in reference to the incident in Africa. I for one am waiting to send an envoy to it. I know all the other participants are probably waiting too. Don't sweat being out of the loop for a few days, we all need to step out from time to time.


-Hawdawg

Layarteb: You have Vancouver Island wrongly coloured for Huahin.
Also, since Callisdrun is Decree 12, I've decided I'm taking northern California (which will now be rebranded as "Sierra"), as well as creating a "Western Coast Guard" that will cover the entire North American West Coast here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9112067#post9112067

North Germania: Well, to that end you can have a thread where the government issues a potentially controversial law, such as, say, mandatory conscription, or have a news story where a radical group demands change in the country or a violent crime gets committed or something like that. Or, if you want, you could even host an international expose where you show off your national sport. The possibilities are endless.

For everyone: I do know that I want to play the "democracy" card here a little more. Essentially, it appears to me that I'm the only "real" democracy in Earth II, and that could pose some problems for me (hence why my lands get chopped up into Protectorates, so that I can at least say that I'm not the "only" democracy here), and, besides, if I claim myself to be "the defender of democracy" that could really stir things up because I'd give potential revolutionaries an inspiration. I have thought of becoming a sort of "Napoleon of the West" where I get to redraw the map and create some more democracies ("The Cascadian Spring"- it'd be the same think that Napoleon did in Europe), but that won't be for the long-term. The bottom line is that we all really need to establish an identity for ourselves and develop our characters deeper- that way, our RP's will be better.

we should do it on Lay's board for planning purposes

Could somebody TG me the password for that? I was sent it once, but then I lost it again...

Elephantum: Thread added. Of course terraforming is a long way away but the idea, the plans, the desires are here today so you need not worry.

RomeW: Callisdrun's Decree 12 status is odd now. He came into my Greenland thread and said he'd be around more often and I asked him further but he never responded yet so I am not entirely sure where to place him. Perhaps you can give him a telegram? Unfortunately it was after 12:00am :) but err, I suppose I could let one slide. Vancouver Island huh? I'll have to fix that huh.


Service Announcements

1. It's the 22nd so guess what, World War is over, and until the 29th, no new land claims. Please, I beg you. Any further claims will be done afterwards. There will be no reserving land claims either so don't get any ideas.

2. I am purging the list of RPs so any that aren't active, alliances included, please let me know.

3. Earth II Discussion (OOC) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427464) & UN Discussions for Earth II (OOC thread) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427047).

Here is a new thread I just worked up.


Hawdawg reorganized Navy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427465)


-Hawdawg

Here is a new thread I just worked up.


Hawdawg reorganized Navy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427465)


-Hawdawg

It hath been added!

Thanks,


FYI people read the thread I have numerous ships for sale only to Earth II inhabitants.



-Hawdawg

Thanks,


FYI people read the thread I have numerous ships for sale only to Earth II inhabitants.



-Hawdawg

I'd love to buy something but nothing interests me :).

Rome-While not a true democracy, since the death of Wandu e-Mumman, the great High Sultan, and the institution of the Nine Sultans, who rule as a group, deciding on issues, Elephantum has moved towards a government with more of the populace involved. When someone has an issue, family members meet and come to an agreement on an opinion. The head of the family meets with other heads of neighboring families, who decide on a course of action. This process continues as far up the line as it needs to, eventually reaching the Sultan of their Sultanate, who can bring it before the Nine Sultans, or, if purely involved in the Sultanate itself, rule on his own. The Nine Sultanates (Antartica, Arabia, Iraq, Bahrain, Jordan, Upper India, Lower India, the UAE, and Qatar)are similar to the US prior to the Civil War, as people feel more loyal to province than country. Foriegn policy and a united military are the few aspects where provinces feel most united.

On another note, even though political parties do not really exist, Antartica and the Gulf States (UAE and Qatar), all small and recent additions to the Sultanates, have banded together for support. Jordan, Iraq, and Arabia have a similar relationship, as do the Indian provinces and Bahrain. With a split of 3-3-3, no one group is able to summon the 5 votes required to pass a measure without working with at least on other group.

Note-the family meeting style system is based on the RL bahraini system, its name is eluding me right now though

Alright, I purged the RP list. I see a lot of alliances there and I know that not all of them are active. If you have an alliance and it is not active or dead, please let me know.

ALL MESC MEMBERS-GO TO LAY'S FORUM NOW

tg me if you need the PW sent again

For everyone: I do know that I want to play the "democracy" card here a little more. Essentially, it appears to me that I'm the only "real" democracy in Earth II, and that could pose some problems for me (hence why my lands get chopped up into Protectorates, so that I can at least say that I'm not the "only" democracy here), and, besides, if I claim myself to be "the defender of democracy" that could really stir things up because I'd give potential revolutionaries an inspiration. I have thought of becoming a sort of "Napoleon of the West" where I get to redraw the map and create some more democracies ("The Cascadian Spring"- it'd be the same think that Napoleon did in Europe), but that won't be for the long-term. The bottom line is that we all really need to establish an identity for ourselves and develop our characters deeper- that way, our RP's will be better.

I feel hurt :(.

Our government is much more complex than a normal democracy. Our government is ruled by four factions: The Technocrats(whose leaders are elected by lesser Technocrats), the Caliph(he is chosen by the Islamic part of our nation), the Grand Duchy(the Duke is elected by the people of Greater Carthage), and the Suffete, which is our parliament. It's rather hectic, seeing how our empire is splintered like this, but in times of emergency or war all of the factions meet and elect a leader.

People who see my EII RP's concerning my own country should realise that the majority of the time it's one faction vs. another(if you think about it, it's kinda like Poland-Lithuania was like before, and to a smaller degree after, the Union of Lublin).

The Empire of Cotland would like to continue its successful line of auctioning, but this time we won't auction away land. We'll auction away warships!

The ships we want to auction away are

36 Bismarck II class battleships (EOL made) - Starting price 400 million
36 Ticonderoga class cruisers - Starting price 270 million
96 Arleigh Burke class AEGIS destroyers - Starting price 200 million
128 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates - Starting price 100 million

They have all served with distinction in the Imperial Cottish Navy, and will be handed over to buyers 100% operational and with a full load of weapons and fuel (if applicable). The auction is now started, and will continue untill 12 noon GMT on the 25th of June. Good luck!

The Empire of Cotland would like to continue its successful line of auctioning, but this time we won't auction away land. We'll auction away warships!

The ships we want to auction away are

36 Bismarck II class battleships (EOL made) - Starting price 400 million
36 Ticonderoga class cruisers - Starting price 270 million
96 Arleigh Burke class AEGIS destroyers - Starting price 200 million
128 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates - Starting price 100 million

They have all served with distinction in the Imperial Cottish Navy, and will be handed over to buyers 100% operational and with a full load of weapons and fuel (if applicable). The auction is now started, and will continue untill 12 noon GMT on the 25th of June. Good luck!

Bismarck II Class SPECIAL INDIGENOUS PROJECT
http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Export/bismarck.jpg
Function: Battleship
Crew: 200 officers, 2,000 enlisted
Length: 823.50 ft.
Beam (Width): 118.10 ft.
Draft (Depth Under Water): 33.46 ft.
Displacement: 50,096 tons
Max Speed: 32 knots
Aircraft: 4 HH-60H Seahawk or 4 SH-60F LAMPS Seahawk
Powerplant: Two SNR-1 nuclear reactors, three geared steam turbines, three shafts, (150,000 Shaft horsepower)
Endurance: 15 years without refueling
Armament: 8 15-in (38 cm) SK C/34 guns with 125 rounds per gun (4 forward, 4 aft); 12 6-in (15 cm) SK C/28 turrets with 107 rounds per gun (6 port, 6 starboard); 16 FC-1C Layarteb 88 Flak Cannons with 425 rounds per gun (8 port, 8 starboard); 16 37 mm SK C/30 AA Guns with 2,131 rounds per gun (8 port, 8 starboard); 12 Mk 15 Mod 2 Phalanx CIWS with 15,500 rounds per weapon (2 forward, 4 port, 4 starboard, 2 aft); 1 Mk-41 V-Cell (64 cells) aft for ASROC, ESSM, or Standard; 6 torpedo tubes (3 starboard, 3 port) with a total of 18 530mm or 660mm torpedoes; 4 RIM-116 mounts with 84 missiles
Unit Cost: $700M

MESC members who want oil production calculated/estimated, I'll give you the numbers probably the day after I get them

also there's now 666 posts on Lay's forum, if you were curious

OOC:

Just so you guys know, I may be going on vacation to China for a month or so, beyond the 21-day D12 clause at the very least. Details are not forthcoming, unfortunately.

Anyways, since y'all want to carve up my continent, I had an idea: How about if in the EII universe, my country goes batshit insane and begins invading all of its neighbors in an orgy of imperialistic aggression? I'd like to go out with a bang, and pretty soon since I don't know when I'll be visiting my relatives.

OOC:

Just so you guys know, I may be going on vacation to China for a month or so, beyond the 21-day D12 clause at the very least. Details are not forthcoming, unfortunately.

Anyways, since y'all want to carve up my continent, I had an idea: How about if in the EII universe, my country goes batshit insane and begins invading all of its neighbors in an orgy of imperialistic aggression? I'd like to go out with a bang, and pretty soon since I don't know when I'll be visiting my relatives.

LOL batshit...what a great way to put it...Go for it man! A few of our members have gone out with a bang!

MESC members who want oil production calculated/estimated, I'll give you the numbers probably the day after I get them

also there's now 666 posts on Lay's forum, if you were curious

I am the epitome of evil.

Ladies & gentlemen, I want to draw attention to the following thread. It is the Earth II - Fleet Week @ Layarteb City sign-up thread. So far we have 6 nations attending, bringing 270 guests, 23 ships, and 17 aircraft.

Come and sign-up. Fleet Week @ Layarteb City will be a week long of festivities of ships, exhibits, competitions, demonstrations, balls, parties, events, fireworks, speeches, etc. We will be celebrating the end of World War I (Earth II style) and we're going to do it with a bash. All foreign dignitaries will be staying at the Waldorf Astoria in Layarteb City with exhibits all around Manhattan Island and in Brooklyn.

Come & sign up!!!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427305

Err yeah so I originally expected more problems with the server than what I actually had so who really wants that 7-day ban on land claims? Since it worked out easily, I can repeal it :).

Please do.

Please do.

.:. Bump .:.

For more replies...

Yes, yes, kill the moratorium :D

2 for yay
0 for nay

make that 3-0

make that 3-0

I can definitely see the way this is going. Alright so why not just shorten it to Friday?

Neuvo Rica, your production has been calculated, and is posted on the forum

Neuvo Rica, your production has been calculated, and is posted on the forum

FYI my storefront is open :).

!!!Schedule for Fleet Week!!!


Exhibits & Events

Afternoon Luncheons
Afternoon luncheons will take place every day between 1500 and 1700. Capacity is limited so only invited guests are asked to attend. Formal attire is required. Cuisine will differ per location and day.

Air Show
The Air Show will take place at Brooklyn Air Force Base, in Brooklyn. Shuttle's will run to and from the Air Base, starting one hour before the Air Show is opened to one hour after it closes. Featured exhibits will be the A-10A Thunderbolt, B-1B Lancer, B-2A Spirit, B-9A Sphinx, B-52H Stratofortress, C-17A Globemaster III, C-130J Hercules, EF-111A Raven, F-15C Eagle, F-16C Falcon, F-22A Raptor, F-26A Typhoon, F-30A Comet, F-31A Tornado ADV, F-31B Tornado GAV, F-32A Foxhound, F-111M Aardvark, F-117A Nighthawk, KC-10A Stratotanker, RQ-1A Predator, and RQ-4A Global Hawk. Demonstrations will be going on at set times during the day and foreign aircraft will be available for viewing.

Balls
Each night there will be a formal ball. Formal attire is required. Capacity is limited so only invited guests are asked to attend. Each one will honor a different group of distinguished guests and will last into the morning.

Dnalkrad Exhibit
The Dnalkrad exhibit will feature a single Dnalkrad Class FFG air defense frigate. The Dnalkrad will be boardable, but many of its compartments will be closed. On it's deck will be a SH-97A Serpent helicopter, specializing in anti-submarine warfare.

Earthquake Exhibit
The Earthquake exhibit will be another main exhibit. It will feature an Earthquake Class BBN. It will feature, on its deck, a single SH-60R Seahawk and HH-60H Seahawk. Tours will go below deck, though into limited compartments.

Enterprise Exhibit
The Enterprise Carrier exhibit will feature a single Enterprise CVN, the mainstay of the Imperial Layartebian Navy. On it's deck will be a number of aircraft for viewing: E-2D Hawkeye, EA-6B Prowler, EA-18A Growler, F-14E Super Tomcat, F-18C Hornet, F-18E Super Hornet, F-22N Raptor, F-26B Typhoon, and SH-60R Seahawk.

Fireworks & Closing Ceremonies
From numerous barges placed in New York Harbor and other places around Manhattan Island, there will be a massive fireworks show. It will last a duration of 3 hours and will be supplemented by the finest ball throughout Layarteb City. It will take place at several locations: Dnalkrad Class FFG, Ellis Island, Liberty Island, Unforgiven Class CGN, and the Waldorf-Astoria. Reservations can be made. Background checks are required and formal attire is required.

IMAX
The IMAX theater on Manhattan's Southern Piers features four theaters, each of which can seat up to one hundred and twenty people. The theater will be featuring three forty-five minute movies, optimized for the IMAX experience.

Blast-Off: You are one of seven, sitting uncomfortably at the top of a rocket, a massive rocket. You're pitched up, looking towards the heavens. On your speaker all you hear is "5...4...3...2...1..." There is a rumble and the next thing you know you are blasting off to space, accelerating faster than you ever thought possible.

Dogfight: You are crack fighter-pilot, flying in the F-22A Raptor. Take a trip inside the cockpit and fly the F-22A Raptor in a dogfight against enemy forces.

Maximum Speed: Sitting comfortably aboard the bridge of an Earthquake Class BBN, you think you've got it made. Take a trip as a sailor on board the Earthquake as she unleashes havoc against her enemies.

Morning Speeches
Every morning, between 0800 and 0900 there will be morning speeches honoring a group of distinguished guests. Capacity is not limited and all are asked to attend.

Space Exhibit
The Space exhibit will feature various tidbits, items, and people involved with the Imperial Layartebian Space Agency. It is supplemented by the IMAX movie Blast-Off.

Unforgiven Exhibit
The Unforgiven exhibit will feature a single Unforgiven Class CGN, the new flagship for the Imperial Layartebian Navy. The Unforgiven will be boardable as well but only for the deck. No tours will enter any of the below deck or superstructure spaces. On its deck will be a single SH-97B Serpent, specializing in transport. On the last day, the Unforgiven Class will be officially presented to the world as the new flagship of the Imperial Layartebian Navy.


Schedule

Day 1
0800 to 0900: Opening Ceremonies
0900 to 1800: Enterprise Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1300 to 1500: IMAX Showing Maximum Speed
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon at Pier 42
2000 to 0400: Celebration Ball at Waldorf-Astoria

Day 2
0800 to 0900: Honoring Our Veterans
0800 to 2000: Air Show
0900 to 1800: Enterprise Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1300 to 1700: IMAX Showing Maximum Speed & Dogfight
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon onboard Dnalkrad
2000 to 0200: Veterans Ball onboard Layarteb Class BBN

Day 3
0800 to 0900: Welcoming Our Foreign Attendees
0900 to 1800: Enterprise Exhibit
0900 to 1600: Earthquake Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1300 to 1700: IMAX Showing Dogfight
1400 to 1700: Unforgiven Exhibit
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon onboard Earthquake
2000 to 0300: Foreign Dignitaries Ball at Waldorf-Astoria

Day 4
0800 to 0900: Fighting For a Cause
0900 to 1600: Earthquake Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1200 to 1400: Space Exhibit at Piers 42, 45, and 47
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon onboard Unforgiven
1900 to 0200: Historical Ball onboard Unforgiven

Day 5
0800 to 0900: Tribute to the Emperor
0800 to 2000: Air Show
0900 to 1800: Enterprise Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1200 to 1400: IMAX Showing Blast-Off
1200 to 1400: Space Exhibit at Piers 42, 45, and 47
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon at Waldorf-Astoria
1900 to 0300: Emperor's Ball on Liberty Island

Day 6
0800 to 0900: Tribute to Our Allies
0900 to 1030: North Germanian Exhibit
1030 to 1200: Cottish Exhibit
1200 to 1330: TBA
1330 to 1500: TBA
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon on ICS Ragnarok
2000 to 0200: Allies Ball on KMB Stahlheim

Day 7
0800 to 0900: Closing Speeches
0900 to 1800: Enterprise Exhibit
0900 to 1600: Earthquake Exhibit
1100 to 1400: Dnalkrad Exhibit
1200 to 1400: IMAX Showing Blast-Off
1200 to 1400: Space Exhibit at Piers 42, 45, and 47
1400 to 1700: Unforgiven Exhibit
1500 to 1700: Afternoon Luncheon at Liberty Island
1800 to 2000: Presentation of Unforgiven
2100 to 0700: Fireworks & Layarteb Ball at Various Locations

Final Notes
Please keep in mind that civility is a must. Formal attire means tuxedo for gentlemen and gowns for ladies. No weapons are permitted at any location without prior approval, which is given to security forces first. Events are not only limited to the exhibits listed. Piers 30 through 57 will feature competitions, exhibits, catering, etc.

Thank You
The Empire of Layarteb


:: event listing changed 6.23.05 @ 0142AM (day 6) ::

In case many of you missed it in my reorganization thread, I have several Aircraft Carriers I need to dispose of. I currently am selling the following:

(2) Nimitz Class Carriers (can carry 72 planes, not included) 500 million each.
(26) Illeana-Vassili Class Carriers (can carry 114 planes, not included) 600 million each. (Gray's Hill design)

All vessels come with a 90 day guarantee and have been serviced in our World-Famous Dry Dock facilities in Liverpool. We have to make room for the new group of carriers we have on order from FDI and these babies gotta go.

I will also have a large number of frigates, destroyers, cruisers available at the end of the month when I take delivery on the new replacement vessels.

-Hawdawg

In case many of you missed it in my reorganization thread, I have several Aircraft Carriers I need to dispose of. I currently am selling the following:

(2) Nimitz Class Carriers (can carry 72 planes, not included) 500 million each.
(26) Illeana-Vassili Class Carriers (can carry 114 planes, not included) 600 million each. (Gray's Hill design)

All vessels come with a 90 day guarantee and have been serviced in our World-Famous Dry Dock facilities in Liverpool. We have to make room for the new group of carriers we have on order from FDI and these babies gotta go.

I will also have a large number of frigates, destroyers, cruisers available at the end of the month when I take delivery on the new replacement vessels.

-Hawdawg

This Centaur-X ships entice me and I love his work. I asked him to build me a cruiser but I think he forgot, LOL, it's cool. I might design something like the Centaur-X but better ;). Not that that's really possible. I got good navy ships but he's got amazing ones!

Layarteb: I see. Well, for service purposes only, I'd like to say that the "West Coast Guard" I established in the north California thread is still being established- it follows the same idea as the Portuguese "cartez" system, only that there is no toll.

I'll put up another thread for that if I have to. Also, if Callisdrun is NOT D12, then I'll renounce my claims over Sierra.

Also, the final three alliances have been mixed up, title-wise. They're listed as:

The Romad Russian Friendship and Co-operation Alliance
The Zapan Confederacy Forms (Calling all Mediterranean nations)
The Unitetista/Tanuian Accords

( :confused: )

The first one is the link to the Roman Confederacy, the second one to the Zaptista/Tanuian Accords and the third one is the Siberian Pact.

Finally, I'll post in the OOC Thread tommorow- remind me though.

The Lightning Star: My bad, although I'll admit, from your postings I would have never guessed that you were democratic. It's quite the system you have there actually.

your store is open, YAY!

Anyone else want oil production calculated (mainly MESC)

Its 2:14 in the morning (here at least), do you know where your goblins are?

Anyone else want oil production calculated (mainly MESC)

*raises hand* I posted a message about it in the forums.

Its 2:14 in the morning (here at least), do you know where your goblins are?

Ruling the world! Mwahahaha!

roman production is done, and it doesnt look very good...

roman production is done, and it doesnt look very good...

Check reply.

Neuvo Rica, your production has been calculated, and is posted on the forum

It has indeed, many thanks...

Yes... finally the storefront is Geoffnet... I need bombers... badly...

This Centaur-X ships entice me and I love his work. I asked him to build me a cruiser but I think he forgot, LOL, it's cool. I might design something like the Centaur-X but better ;). Not that that's really possible. I got good navy ships but he's got amazing ones!

I looked at the Centaur-X and will probably add it to my fleet. My main concern is to update all my carriers and escorts at the moment. I really like the capabilities of his destroyers and cruisers. I plan to replace all my Ticonderoga class and Arliegh Burkes with Anakara and Berlin Class Cruisers and a few of the Centaur's-X. You are dead on about the quality of his ships. Even his old designed frigates are way above the quality of my lowly old escorts. Plus with all the genius on NS nobody else has designed a ship to function in a cold weather climate with combat/ice breaking capabilities like the Narwhal Corvette. I looked at several other "large" naval yards for replacement ships, but the quality of FDI design and construction always brought me back. I just wish he would build a Battleship a little smaller that the Levathian Class, but I will make do with CSMJ designed floating cannons until this happens.


Since no one else has bitten on the Carriers here we go. (2) Nimitz class carriers, and (26) Illeana-Vasili Class Carriers FREE to the first one fast enough to post.

The Romad Russian Friendship and Co-operation Alliance
The Zapan Confederacy Forms (Calling all Mediterranean nations)
The Unitetista/Tanuian Accords

I am as baffled as you.

RomeW, you coming to fleet week at Layarteb City? It's a celebration of the end of WW :).

Since no one else has bitten on the Carriers here we go. (2) Nimitz class carriers, and (26) Illeana-Vasili Class Carriers FREE to the first one fast enough to post.
I WANT!!! OOOO PICK ME!!!
erhm.
Sure, ill take them off of your hands :)

lay:ive got to hand it to you, thats amazing!!(fleet week) GJ.

ALL:If infact, i get DEAT'd, which is becoming likely being that my parents feel the need to take an extra week after i return from ny, in takeing me to virgina to look at colleges. So, if that happens, my land is to be divided up between Cotland, TLS, and NG, THAT IS !!IF!! THEY PROMISE TO GIVE IT BACK WHEN I RETURN.

Thank you.

All these Aircraft carriers are anchored off the SE Coast of England. You may take possession of them anytime you wish. Be advised they do not contain aircraft. You will have to equip them with them. All nuclear reactors have been checked for soundness and have at least 10 years left before fuel rods have to be changed. Have fun with them, lucky someone came along I was fixing to sink them as natural habitat for fish.


-Hawdawg

I would like to claim Nerotika's Taymyria Okrug, Yamalia Okrug (north), if i need an invasion RP just give me a word.

Here is the invasion thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9121002#post9121002

"Invasion of Nerotika"

The Lightning Star: My bad, although I'll admit, from your postings I would have never guessed that you were democratic. It's quite the system you have there actually.

Yes. That's what they said about Poland-Lithuania too.

Duke Barol: Put your nation on vacation mode and you get 60 days so you won't get the DEAT unless you are gone for longer.

Pushka: Err there's technically a 7 day moratorium in effect on land claims but see the service announcements.


Service Announcements

1. As of June 25, 2005, 0000 GMT, new land claims will be accepted. To hell with the moratorium ;).

2. I am purging the list of RPs so any that aren't active, alliances included, please let me know.

3. Earth II Discussion (OOC) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427464) & UN Discussions for Earth II (OOC thread) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427047).

All these Aircraft carriers are anchored off the SE Coast of England. You may take possession of them anytime you wish. Be advised they do not contain aircraft. You will have to equip them with them. All nuclear reactors have been checked for soundness and have at least 10 years left before fuel rods have to be changed. Have fun with them, lucky someone came along I was fixing to sink them as natural habitat for fish.


-Hawdawg
I may wind up doing that to some of my old frigates. put some of the other ships you are giving away/selling on hold for when i get back. i definately want them.

lay, i may be gone for a little longer, no more than 70, but maybe about 65-67
IC:
To Admiral Vance-From CINCEMP

We have a new shipment of aircraft carriers waiting out side of england
You are to procede to inspect then claim the ships ASAP.
P1U2
Feel free to contact the EOL re: fleet week and reserve a room for your self and your guards.
I will not be able to attend, however, send my regards to the dear emperor.
Take part of the 4th fleet with you.
END


ooc:the 4th fleet contains 1 german aircraft carrier, and alot of asw vessles. standard us navy stuff. between now and september i will be revamping my millitary. be advised.

I am back and I still want to stay in Earth II.

*IMPORTANT* As per the post below, the Roman Empire is accepting invitations to attend the big hockey game that will be taking place in Rome in a matter of weeks. Sign up in the thread!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9105070

(It's not the last one, but it's got the official invite in the post as well as a promotional photo. The game itself will probably begin next week when I have time to write up the first period... :D )

Ok, what im hearing is there are too many alliances with tooo many people in each.
Heres what im going to do
I want everyone to go here and put down the alliances that they are apart of, what makes them apart of taht alliance, their pop size, and on a scale of 1-10, (1 least, 10 best), how attached they are to that alliance and why.
After everyone does that, i will make a list and do some rearangeing. ill then present the list to you guys and you tell me what you think.

Link:
Earth II Aliances (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9126107)

Pushka:[/b] Err there's technically a 7 day moratorium in effect on land claims but see the service announcements.

Where is that service annoucement? And seven days from what date? And can you put my thread up after the seven days have passed (i will just live it alone for now)?

the service announcment was about 5 lines below the line you quoted

Service Announcements

1. As of June 25, 2005, 0000 GMT, new land claims will be accepted. To hell with the moratorium .

2. I am purging the list of RPs so any that aren't active, alliances included, please let me know.

3. Earth II Discussion (OOC) & UN Discussions for Earth II (OOC thread).

Alright land moratorium is over.

My new factbook with quickie links to each branch of service if anyone wants to see.

Holy Republic of Hawdawg Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428042)


-Hawdawg

.:. New Russia Map .:.

The Empire of Layarteb hereby announces the Doctrine of Supremacy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428052).

New thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9131430#post9131430

(It's a massive reorganization)

@Layatreb: Love the new map of Russia, but could you please change my or Neuva Rica's color? They blend in to easily, its hard to make a distinction.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428160

"Operation Snapcount - The liberation of Liberia"

Decree 12 annexation of Liberia.

RomeW & Cotland: RPs added.

Pushak: :: snarl :: grrrrrrrr changed...

After years of Discontent in the Yelmish Empire and a pretty much absense of goverment, the Adamistaani Socialist Group seized the goverment in a secretive milteristic coup the "old" Yelmish empire has now become the new AUS or Adamistaani United Socialists. This is a new turning point for the populus of the new AUS and the world alike.

After years of Discontent in the Yelmish Empire and a pretty much absense of goverment, the Adamistaani Socialist Group seized the goverment in a secretive milteristic coup the "old" Yelmish empire has now become the new AUS or Adamistaani United Socialists. This is a new turning point for the populus of the new AUS and the world alike.

You do have to RP for his land you do realize, it's just that his consent isn't required.

Hay Lay, just to let you know, I'm going to Boy Scout Summer Camp (Yes, I'm only 12) until Saturday or Sunday, so I can't log into EII then. Noone should expect a response if they try to RP with me.

Kreynoria']Hay Lay, just to let you know, I'm going to Boy Scout Summer Camp (Yes, I'm only 12) until Saturday or Sunday, so I can't log into EII then. Noone should expect a response if they try to RP with me.

1 week won't qualify you for anything so you're good but thanks for the head's up.

Kreynoria']Hay Lay, just to let you know, I'm going to Boy Scout Summer Camp (Yes, I'm only 12) until Saturday or Sunday, so I can't log into EII then. Noone should expect a response if they try to RP with me.

Fun times! Oh I remember a LONG time ago I went to scout camp too. Highlight of my trip was earning Marksmanship Proficiency and award. I still have the plaque so where in my pile of storage boxes.

-Hawdawg

Kreynoria']Hay Lay, just to let you know, I'm going to Boy Scout Summer Camp (Yes, I'm only 12) until Saturday or Sunday, so I can't log into EII then. Noone should expect a response if they try to RP with me.

Ah, the Boyscouts.

*spits*

I remember when I was in the Boyscouts. Cub scouts, to be precise.

It was the summer of '97. Or was it '98? That's besides the point. Anyhoo, I had just completed my first year. Oh, the fun and joy we had. I was so proud of my shiny "I completed my first year" thing, and I was as happy as...someone who's happy. Anyhoo, as I was celebrating with mein friends, the Pack Leader person walks up and says, "Sorry Jon, but we have to take away your award". "Why?" I asked, seeing how I had just received it. "Well, you're moving to Pakistan, that's why." I was shocked. Bamboozled. Of course, since I was only 7, I did what the leader asked, and as soon as the ceremony was over I gave the award away. It was then that I realised the evil that was the Boy Scouts, and how they had shunned me, due to no fault of my own. So the Boy Scouts abandoned me, and by the time I could have rejoined A. I was too old(well, not too old, but everyone else would be better than me) and B. Had developed a deep loathing of the Boy Scouts.

Alright I think I'm going to start Fleet Week tonight.

Assertion of Authority in French Guyana (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428398)

21-day of New Jyria...Read the status of French Guyana before you get upedty (spelling?).

Fleet Week at Layarteb City (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428410)

FLEET WEEK COMMENCES!!!

Family Guy in 15 so yeah :)

hello... mr weirdos back again :)

thanxs for adding namibia lay. im gonna finish r.p. soonish.

im still online for earth 2 its just that i dont have a computer. so im pretty screwed when it comes to having a solid schedule for "productive" internet time.

apologies in advance

(also cotland are we still friends? :( :) )

Im gonna make a peace conference thread. il finish my namibia r.p. and the Conference can be held in windhoek.... ( few hours away) :)

Im gonna make a peace conference thread. il finish my namibia r.p. and the Conference can be held in windhoek.... ( few hours away) :)

I know everyone involved will be glad for that to happen. I have a aircraft carrier and an MEF off the coast of Guinea Bassau waiting for the official end of conflict to come with the peace conference. When you do post the thread send NG and Cotland a TG to let them know it has started and include a link. The sooner you can get this rolling the better.

-Hawdawg

Peace conference thread. add this lay...


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9141830#post9141830post9141830

Since the World War thread is dead, I may as well add this here.

Attack on Checkpoint #7330 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425891)

Beginnings of conflict with Squornshelous.

Land Trade:

As of today, Psychotika and Hawdawg have come to terms over the Island of Okinawa. Psychotika will recieve the entire Island in two years pending the new construction of a grand naval facility in New Guinea. We will be exchanging Okinawa for his holdings in New Guinea. This deal is approved by our government and will be verified by Pyschotika later in the day.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg


Press Conference about trade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428504)

Zeeeland: Thread added.

Andrehervia: Don't worry it's already been up there since the end of World War.

Hawdawg: No problem. Hopefully Psychotika will post his affirmation. He was supposed to affirm something else but never got to it yesterday.

Hey I guess I should relinquish my terriotory since I'm not really on here anymore. I hereby give up all my territory (Cotland gets first dibs). Thanks to everyone for participating, especially Cotland, Layarteb, RomeW and Lightning Star and the others I have'nt remembered (sorry!), been great knowing you guys and I'll still be on the forums from time to time. See you all later.

I would like to claim all of Gintar's Russian territory.

Hawdawg: No problem. Hopefully Psychotika will post his affirmation. He was supposed to affirm something else but never got to it yesterday.

I didn't get to that " something " yesterday because I was gonna have Soviet Bloc repost it.

And yea, I affirm the trade with Hawdawg.

Hey I guess I should relinquish my terriotory since I'm not really on here anymore. I hereby give up all my territory (Cotland gets first dibs). Thanks to everyone for participating, especially Cotland, Layarteb, RomeW and Lightning Star and the others I have'nt remembered (sorry!), been great knowing you guys and I'll still be on the forums from time to time. See you all later.

Emphasis mine.

Seing as I get first dibs, I claim the Russian lands. Sorry Pushka. I also claim the northern-eastern most part of North Carolina. I'll throw in a more detailed description as I decide which part.

EDIT: I claim Komi Republic and Nenetsia Okrug in Russia. Pushka can have the rest if he'd like.

I'm claiming Spain, Portugal, and Northeast Brazil, unless Cotland says otherwise.

Pushka: Taymyria Okrug and Yamalia Okrug are mine. They were claimed in post #5182.

Duke Barol, if you could post in EII about giving me Botswana, it would finalize the matter.

So, please do so.

In advance, I confirm DB's transferral of Botswana to Germania.

I also confirm the land exchange of Slovakia (from Pantheaa to Germania) for Orenburg Oblast (from Germania to Pantheaa).

I'm claiming Nerotika's lands in Russia.

Those lands in Russia are Taymyria and Yamalia Okrugs.

I do have forces in that area, i have started an invasion thread, you haven't, so i think i should have the priority.

Emphasis mine.

Seing as I get first dibs, I claim the Russian lands. Sorry Pushka. I also claim the northern-eastern most part of North Carolina. I'll throw in a more detailed description as I decide which part.

EDIT: I claim Komi Republic and Nenetsia Okrug in Russia. Pushka can have the rest if he'd like.

I surely do

So it's settled? I get Komi and Nenetsia and you get the rest? If you'd like, I can give you my eastern-most province (the one bordering you) in return.

EDIT: The territory I'm talking about is Khantia-Mansia. It's huge, and I'm willing to give it to you in return for Komi and Nenetsia....

works for me, although i would like to have Russian land, land is still land.

I'm claiming Spain, Portugal, and Northeast Brazil, unless Cotland says otherwise.

Pushka: Taymyria Okrug and Yamalia Okrug are mine. They were claimed in post #5182.



Those lands in Russia are Taymyria and Yamalia Okrugs.

NG, how about this, i'll give you my part of California and we have no problem?

It's settled then. I get Komi and Nenetsia, Pushka gets the rest of the Russian lands Gintonpar had as well as Khantia-Mansia (201,970.00 sq.miles) from me. And everyone is happy.

Pushka, I'd wait untill Lay has confirmed it before starting a thread...

Whomever owns Papua New Guinea I would love to buy your half. Since I have Irian Yara I would like to make th Island whole again. Please respond, I will pay handsomely for it.

-Hawdawg

Layarteb: Guinea Bassau has been ceded to me as repirations for the North Germanian conflict. Zeeeland will post to verify shortly.

-Hawdawg

COTLAND: (wow talk about a bitch slap cotland referring to peace conference thread... :p ) Seriously mate I can understand your animosity though so i will accept your terms (albeit rather grudgingly)

Off the record. N.g. has managed to forgive me for what i said so Cotland i seriously suggest you get over what i said.......... And the old I threaten you with BRUTAL WAR trick is getting rather tirseome.. dont you have a diplomatic team without sub machine guns? :p

I dont want war with you Cotland i hope you understand that. but if you make a move buddy il be waiting... ( p.s. I still like ya mate.. just acting in character nothin personal.)

I Make Gunea Bisseus Hawdawgs


St helena and ascension Island Cotlands

And Niger North Germanias...

also Id like to give Togo and Benin to Huahin and Kreynoria for bringing them into the wrong conflict....


thank you :)

Final post before bedtime.

Ascension Island and Saint Helena Island goes to me, Zeeeland avoids total war with me. Zeeeland, confirm please.

yep its stated above Cotland. now no more war threats for one day please....


goodnight mate. :)

we could have a power comparison chart to measure the Influence of nations in Earth II to see how they compare. this could be measured from their population and economic statistics in nation states and how much Influence they have in EarthII..

what do yall reckon??? ( it would have to be updated pretty regulary though.. so that may be a problem...) :)



ADAMSTAAN: Adamstaan this aint an exclusive fraternity but you have to Join Earth II before annexing anyland.

its simple though. talk to layerteb or marimaia and they will probably let you in. then your away laughing... ( well away) also Yelms in a civil war and is still active. so becareful. there are other territories up for grab in Earth II you just gotta look. :) hope you join Earth II mate

This is just a reminder, but the Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc purchased/etc. the two US states of Kansas and Nebraska from Psychotika, he informed me that he should be affirming this within the next day or two or whenever, so this is just a 'renewal'.

Yup, and now I post the verification that he has purchased the two US States.

I claim Spain!

Yes, Spain. And Yes, all of it. And If I can fit it, Portugal.

If I cant have it all, I at least want the South-East, from Barcelona Southwards. Sin Portugal.

Gintonpar: I wish you were staying, to be honest. If you want to keep a small piece of land like TIOR and Hogsweat did, you are more than welcome. Hell I have French Guyana protectorate status so basically you could be that part of the Empire. Self-govern but you fly my flag ;). Let me know how that sounds.

Hawdawg/Psychotika: Trade affirmed. Claims of Zeeeland moved to you.

Cotland: Russia thing with Pushka is fine. Until you got rid of that land you were over, LOL! Dude just take all of NC to connect your land man so you can reach the sea from Tennessee. Claims of Zeeeland moved to you.

Pushka: Concering the Cotland thing, that's all fine. Concerning the North Germania thing, actually therein lies my err. I see he did claim it in post 5182 and he set up the RP and posted it in the World War thread. That is my fault and I must, considering he did claim it first, ceede the land to he. Post in World War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9056467&postcount=135).

North Germania: Claims updated. You are over 4.0m square miles, see the spread sheet.

Soviet Bloc: Okay done.

TLS: NG beat you to it :)

Aye, Pushka. I had soldiers there over 2 weeks ago (RL time).

I am going to claim Missouri, South Carolina, and Florida in light of Gintonpar going bye-bye.

I just bought Baffin Island from NG for $1.5T.

This is confirmed.

This is confirmed.

I am now the coolest...LOL this past 48 hours is the most land purchasing, moving, I think I've done since I established South Eastern Virginia.

*barks* COLORADO! IT'S MINE! GAH!

*barks* COLORADO! IT'S MINE! GAH!

Yours.

ATTENTION!

I am auctioning off Botswana.

The starting price is 900 billion RM (Reichsmarks).

Let the bidding begin.

we could have a power comparison chart to measure the Influence of nations in Earth II to see how they compare. this could be measured from their population and economic statistics in nation states and how much Influence they have in EarthII..

what do yall reckon??? ( it would have to be updated pretty regulary though.. so that may be a problem...) :)

Pretty damn good idea. Does someone else want to do it though because, to be honest, I got enough to do with the maps, spreadsheet, and general clerical work. I can host it on my site and whomever does it can just e-mail it to me when they want it up or if you desire, host it where you have better access and give me the URL to post.

I'd include military might too because economy and population don't mean squat in terms of power. I mean they help but you need to have military might as well.

Land size has a large amount to do with it also.

Note: No one could successfully invade Russia because of its size. Same with the U.S. or Canada.

Here's a link to the incomplete Germanian factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428664

Pretty damn good idea. Does someone else want to do it though because, to be honest, I got enough to do with the maps, spreadsheet, and general clerical work. I can host it on my site and whomever does it can just e-mail it to me when they want it up or if you desire, host it where you have better access and give me the URL to post.

I'd include military might too because economy and population don't mean squat in terms of power. I mean they help but you need to have military might as well.

Wouldn't military size be in direct proportion to population though? But yes, it is a very good idea.

Wouldn't military size be in direct proportion to population though? But yes, it is a very good idea.

The answer is it depends. Some will naturally run a larger military than others. Plus you could have 500 tank divisions and a small naval presence say 1 or 2 carriers. Everyone sees a different area they need to put most of there emphasis into.

-Hawdawg

Fair enough. I have listed all EII nations in terms of size and UN Economy Category, I will add others if people think this is going in the right direction...

Largest EII Nations (Population)

GnOoLoCoPeLep (4.975 Billion)
Squornshelous (4.74 Billion)
Marimaia (4.166 Billion)
Euroslavia (4.165 Billion)
Greater Valia (4.088 Billion)
Hogsweat (3.903 Billion)
Itinerate Tree Dweller (3.882 Billion)
Andrehervia (3.857 Billion)
Soviet Bloc (3.699 Billion)
The Order of Reptiles (3.568 Billion)
North Germania (3.622 Billion)
Layarteb (3.54 Billion)
Blargistania (3.494 Billion)
Celtayoshi (3.492 Billion)
Huahin (3.456 Billion)
Colerica (3.278 Billion)
Hyperbia (3.149 Billion)
RomeW (3.034 Billion)
Nikolaos the Great (3.024 Billion)
Tyrandis (2.994 Billion)
The WIck (2.902 Billion)
Callisdrun (2.891 Billion)
Liebermonk (2.722 Billion)
Neuvo Rica (2.659 Billion)
The Island of Rose (2.432 Billion)
Teh Ninjas (2.415 Billion)
Greenmanbry (2.361 Billion)
TLS (2.222 Billion)
Tanuio (2.121 Billion)
Binthor (1.976 Billion)
Hawdawg (1.609 Billion
Cotland (1.349 Billion)
Pyschotika (1.336 Billion)
Pantheaa (1.292 Billion)
Pushka (1.168 Billion)
Elephantum (1.108 Billion)
Varsola (1.084 Billion)
Zeeeland (653 Million)
Duke Barol (589 Million)
The Soviet Sith (350 Million)
Kreynoria (313 Million)
Sparta Dominion (301 Million)



Economy Rating

Frightening:
GnOoLoCoPeLep
Squornshelous
Marimaia
Euroslavia
Hogsweat
Itinerate Tree Dweller
Andrehervia
The Order of Reptiles
North Germania
Layarteb
BLARGistania
Celtayoshi
Colerica
Hyperbia
Nikolaos the Great
Tyrandis
The WIck
Liebermonk
The Island of Rose
Teh Ninjas
Greenmanbry
Tanuio
Cotland

All Consuming:
Soviet Bloc
Callisdrun
The Lighning Star
Pyschotika
Elephantum

Powerhouse:
Neuvo Rica
Pushka
Duke Barol
The Soviet Sith

Thriving:
Greater Valia
Hawdawg
Pantheaa

Very Strong:
Varsola
Zeeeland

Strong:
Huahin
RomeW
Binthor

Good:
Kreynoria
Sparta Dominion

After some serious consideration, I've decided to claim all of North Carolina.

just out of curiosity, are we allowed to "find new lands"?

If we do, can I "find" and claim Atlantis near Iceland? (about a thumb from the southern coast) :D

edit:
the northern tip of japan doesnt seem to show on the map. is it unclaimed? if it is, i'd like to claim it please.
and all of china (in both maps, East and Central asia) and korea :rolleyes:

no, you have to claim land that actually exists. China does not appear on the map because it has the China map. That northern Japan area may be Russian, and therefore on the Russia map. Also, please Ctrl+F the claims list for the land you are looking for.

We should have an E2-Factbook you know. It'll list every country, their pop/economic status, military, etc. What doth thou think?

Neuvo Rica: Good layout thus far. Perhaps there is something in the works for the factbook for you. Who knows.

Cotland: So much easier on me for the maps! Thank you!

Swordfallen: Yes you are but to an extent. I have two small islands off the coast of Costa Rica from Jurassic Park (no dinosaurs, just the land). Atlantis is a little different, very different. Due to its existence never actually being known or confirmed or even put anywhere it's tough to say where it is. Now as far as Japan, I'm not sure what you are talking about, nothing isn't colored in. The gray thing is Russia, the Kurile Islands, Russia's territory. Take notice that the gray means another map. If you looked at the map names you would see that. Check the charter for claiming rules.

Elephantum: Well put.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428765

108 ships for sale.

Aye, Pushka. I had soldiers there over 2 weeks ago (RL time).

This is bullshit, now you get the land? Hey, how about a trade? I'll give you all the non-Russian land i got for those two territories?

This is bullshit, now you get the land? Hey, how about a trade? I'll give you all the non-Russian land i got for those two territories?

He did do the RP a while back, for World War, and it was a clerical error on my part. It has happened before (IDF & TKT) and one other time. Things get lost when you have to update for 3 or 4 pages of posting. E2 is first-come, first-serve, first-get so.

Doesn't mean i can't get pissed off about this.

Doesn't mean i can't get pissed off about this.

By all means. But do not get pissed at NG when the fault lies with I.

Don't worry, i am more of a quite pisser offer, plus i can't physically be pissed for too long. :p

Don't worry, i am more of a quite pisser offer, plus i can't physically be pissed for too long. :p

LMFAO!

Hopefully he'll trade me, but even if he doesn't i am still planning on cutting all the loose ends and sticking to only maintaining presenss in Russia.

North Germania, please trade me!

Neuvo Rica: Good layout thus far. Perhaps there is something in the works for the factbook for you. Who knows.



Anything I should add to that list?

TLS: NG beat you to it :)

NOOOO!!!

Also, I sold NG some land in Syria ages ago, how come you haven't put it up yet?

*cries* Why does everyone always take my land? All I want is to re-build the Carthaginian Empire, but nooooo, they have to claim EVERY PIECE OF LAND THERE IS! North Germania owns ALMOST ALL OF FRIGGEN EUROPE! When will it end? WHEN WILL IT END!?!?!? I had SArdinia once, too. But noooo, TIOR had to take it from me. And then, y'know what? Instead of selling it back to me, it's rightfull owner he sells it to RomeW! And when I claimed Algieria and TIOR said I could have it, did anyone recognize it? Nooo!

It's a conspiracy I say! You're all out to get me! All of ye! Your after me land, aren't ye! Well, we'll see about that!

*maniacal laughter*

*crawls into a corner and gets into the fetal postition*

[/mindless rant]

Really, though, I did sell NG some land a while back. Of couse, he never posted his acceptence...

So I guess the deal is off.

And NG: When the hell are we going to have that Poland RP?

If you sold land to him in Syria you never said anything here.

Lmfao?

If you sold land to him in Syria you never said anything here.

I did.

It was a helluva while back, though.

*sighs*

I hate digging through thousand-post long threads...