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Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 01:18
I am exchanging regions 10 and 3 in the DRC for Teh Ninja's slice of Niger and Burundi along with a free-trade agreement.
The Lightning Star
01-02-2006, 01:29
DAMMIT! I was at school then! Why not wait a longer time, eh? I would have bought the whole freaking area for a trillion dollars!
The Lightning Star
01-02-2006, 01:37
Actually, on that note...

The Carthaginian Government has decided that it will unite Afghanistan under it's rule again once and for all. Therefore, we offer $1 trillion to Rome AND $1 trillion to Elephantum to gain back our provinces.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 01:38
If you people make me do 3 edits on the same fucking map there is going to be an inferno and I'm lighting all of you on fire.
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 01:40
If you people make me do 3 edits on the same fucking map there is going to be an inferno and I'm lighting all of you on fire.

WAITT!! Don't edit the Africa map yet, that slice of Niger is going to change hands again.
The Lightning Star
01-02-2006, 01:41
If you people make me do 3 edits on the same fucking map there is going to be an inferno and I'm lighting all of you on fire.

:D
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 01:52
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









RomeW [Post 9460]: Southern Corridor axed (oops). As far as Northern Province: free claim or to someone?
Huahin [Post 9468]: Channel Islands are part of NG. Isle of Man, however, is not claimed as it is technically its own independent state.
Cotland [Post 9495]: Okay adjusting the land.
RomeW [Post 9497]: Okay changed out those two, added Afghanistan but you are still at 5,007,356.24 so you have to shave off that 7,000 and change.
Elephantum [Post 9498]: Land traded.






Okay I stopped at post 9500 so anything new after that will be in the next update.
Hawdawg
01-02-2006, 02:09
To quote wikipedia
So Channel Islands are mine too.

North Germania owns those Islands you are trying to claim. This was documented many many pages ago when Pantheaa tried to snatch them up under the same pretenses. When that battle for England took place with Kriegorgrad all the possessions associated with Britain were seized and divided up amongst Myself, Cotland and NTG. Now if you would like me to I can provide the link to all the relevant documentation showing our conquest of England if you would like (this happened well over a year ago). I really don't want to go to war over these silly islands but the principle of the thing is we fought for our lands and by golly if you want more then attack someone for space. Don't run around looking at maps laying claim to some sand bar. IF this is not clear then launch a conquest of the Channels and see how fast the fly is swatted.

-Hawdawg
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 03:04
State of the Union address now. Please watch if you are American, even if you don't like Bush (and I am part of that group & I voted for him), please watch because this is your country and you should know WTF is going on, at least a little bit. If you are not American, watch anyway.
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 03:28
Apparently my understanding of the Electric Forces is more important than my understanding of my nation. Lab from 6:30-9:00
Teh ninjas
01-02-2006, 03:33
I am exchanging regions 10 and 3 in the DRC for Teh Ninja's slice of Niger and Burundi along with a free-trade agreement.

confirmed.

Imperial Decree
In response to Layartebian military activity near our Cuban borders we have raised the status of all Ninjanian military forces from low to elevated. This status will remain until we have seen a decrease in forces near our borders to normal levels.
(Elevated status means that a couple more patrols are sent out, and more helicopters and aircraft are put on patrol. Nothing really big.)
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:00
ACTHUNG! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10336504&postcount=7) This posting is reproduced below in what matters.

Layarteb City

The Emperor sat at his desk. His speech for the evening was something that would be broadcast around the world, especially in Europe. "Good evening ladies and gentlemen of the Empire. It is my pleasure to speak to all of you this evening." He smiled. "This evening I can announce that the Empire is taking a step towards the preservation of our safety and our security.

"I have ordered a build-up of our military forces in Norway, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, the Caribbean, and Europe. Threats from the Russian Federation have prompted us to entertain the notion of pre-emption. I agree this is a very unworthy time for this but I must digress. We signed a treaty with the Russian Federation, a Non-Aggression Pact, which we do not believe they have any intention of honoring. We must be prepared if they do. The Empire will not be caught by surprise when tanks and helicopters of the Russian Federation sweep over the borders into the lands of our allies.

"Moreover, we also turn our attention to the Pacific. The Tyrandi government, in a seemingly unknown and secretive alliance with the Russian Federation, has been making threats against our Norwegian allies and their land in Australia. We will not stand idly by as our allies, who have shown time and time again that they will die for us, are threatened. The Empire will not allow those in the world to threaten the balance of power that exists.

"The Empire calls out to all nations of the world who seek peace, enjoy the status quo, and dislike the dishonesty and lack of integrity of these two nations to unite under the banner of sovereignty. World War II cannot happen. World War I was nothing to speak of in light nor shall World War II be something to speak of period. Ladies and gentlemen, should World War II break out, it has the potential to cause worldwide catastrophe on a scale so great as to kill billions. We cannot stand idly by and let that many innocents die.

"The integrity and the honor of the Empire shall be preserved at all costs and at all times. Thank you and have a good evening."

OOC: ICly i am not in alliance with him neither did he make any IC threats. You're kind of jumping the gun here, oh well.

IC:

Message to the world regarding Layatrebian military build-up

We call upon peace loving nations of the world to condemn this unneccessary display. The alliance Mr. Emperor has spoke off simply does not exist in reality, the Russian Federation has not sent any sort of aid to the nation of Tyrandis, neither did they express any wish for us to send them aid, neither do we intend to controll the deals that might or might not be made in the future between the government of Tyrandis or any other nation and private companies based in the Federation. I would like to urge Mr.Emperor to act upon what he preaches and show both integrity and wish for peace by continuing to honor the Non-Aggression Pact signed by our respective nations. If the Empire of Layatreb builds up forces along the Russian Federation border we will have no other choice but to respond with a similar build up which will ruin all we have worked for. The accusations thrown at us are baseless and there is nothing to explain these actions exept by suggesting that purhapse the Empire does not wish for peace. I once again urge all nations of the world with a desire for peace including members of the October Alliance to condemn these actions."

-Vladimir Ivanov, President of Russian Federation
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:03
Hey Lay, or Mari, can you resubscribe me to VCO forums i have accidently removed myself.
The Lightning Star
01-02-2006, 04:11
State of the Union address now. Please watch if you are American, even if you don't like Bush (and I am part of that group & I voted for him), please watch because this is your country and you should know WTF is going on, at least a little bit. If you are not American, watch anyway.

I did it for homework. El Presidente said "Freedom" 16 times, half as much as last year.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:22
Response from The P.F.B.

Should any nation threaten to destabilize the fragile peace within our African sphere of influence by instigating war Bjornoya will not hesitate to use force to protect its citizens and the status quo.

"Does this mean that Bjornya will not furfill its duties as a member of Voronej Cooperation Organization incase the Empire of Layatreb or any other nation will attack another member of the Voronej Cooperation Organization?"

-Russian Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:22
I did it for homework. El Presidente said "Freedom" 16 times, half as much as last year.

LOL!!!!


I put a transcript on my forum.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:23
confirmed.

Imperial Decree
In response to Layartebian military activity near our Cuban borders we have raised the status of all Ninjanian military forces from low to elevated. This status will remain until we have seen a decrease in forces near our borders to normal levels.
(Elevated status means that a couple more patrols are sent out, and more helicopters and aircraft are put on patrol. Nothing really big.)

Cool. Now I can increase military activity in Cuba :).
Teh ninjas
01-02-2006, 04:28
Cool. Now I can increase military activity in Cuba :).
Go ahead. Just don't forget our little DMZ.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:30
Go ahead. Just don't forget our little DMZ.

Yeah actually I never raised military activity in Cuba particularly. I mostly meant on the outer rim of the Antilles.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:33
Lay, can you please re-add me to the VCO group, it will take like a second and i really need to post something so i can go.
Teh ninjas
01-02-2006, 04:34
Well the Carribean is a big place, I didn't know what you were referring to. Doesn't matter. It's not like I'm gonna nuke you.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:36
Lay, can you please re-add me to the VCO group, it will take like a second and i really need to post something so i can go.

Sure.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:37
Well the Carribean is a big place, I didn't know what you were referring to. Doesn't matter. It's not like I'm gonna nuke you.

Prevailing winds would definitely turn ya green :). Although I will probably eventually increase in Cuba, though I am not sure yet.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:39
Yeah..eh if not to difficult can i get my mod status back right now?
Pushka
01-02-2006, 04:41
ALL VCO MEMBERS, CHECK FORUMS

Also @Lay, Turetel confirmed the transfer in the "Freedom to Choose" thread, go look there.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:42
ALL VCO MEMBERS, CHECK FORUMS

Also lay, Turetel confirmed the transfer in the "Freedom to Choose" thread, go look there.

Have him confirm here as well.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 04:56
Killswitch...Engage (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466426)

Attn All
Rome West
01-02-2006, 06:10
RomeW [Post 9460]: Southern Corridor axed (oops). As far as Northern Province: free claim or to someone?

Give it back to Neuvo Rica.

RomeW [Post 9497]: Okay changed out those two, added Afghanistan but you are still at 5,007,356.24 so you have to shave off that 7,000 and change.

OK.

To Elephantum or TLS:

I'm going to dangle Afghanistan Province #30 for a coastal city or a territory that gets me below the limit somewhere in India. Thanks.
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 09:21
Killswitch...Engage (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466426)

Attn All

If its war lets just get it over with, but I see nothing making any specifics just manye grossly expensive mobilizations which will cost millions unless the forces are put to use.
Marimaia
01-02-2006, 14:43
If its war lets just get it over with, but I see nothing making any specifics just manye grossly expensive mobilizations which will cost millions unless the forces are put to use.

See my response on the EII forums.
Elephantum
01-02-2006, 17:33
Rome-Would Goa work? I think I'll sell my Afghan stuff to TLS, just to see Lay explode. :D But either a nice wad of cash or some random land will work.

OPEN MESSAGE TO THE WORLD
While we regret the threats of violence being hurled by various nations, it appears all the attempts for peace have failed. We would beg the nations of the world, particularily those allied to belligerent nations, to do what they can to prevent war, especially a war involving nuclear weapons.

We will declare neutrality, and encourage as many nations as possible to do the same. However, we will open our borders to any unarmed refugees seeking refuge.
Huahin
01-02-2006, 17:38
Give it back to Neuvo Rica.
I'm going to dangle Afghanistan Province #30 for a coastal city or a territory that gets me below the limit somewhere in India. Thanks.

How about I buy Ellesmere Island off you?
Pushka
01-02-2006, 17:39
Thanks Marimia, i thought atleast you would stick by me, but atleast i know now that on EII no one can be relied on. Oh well.
Huahin
01-02-2006, 17:41
This is going to be a pretty bad war if no-one is willing to stand with Pushka. Surely the other people in his alliance should stop being a pussies and stick with him. What do they have to lose?
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 17:55
This is going to be a pretty bad war if no-one is willing to stand with Pushka. Surely the other people in his alliance should stop being a pussies and stick with him. What do they have to lose?

I'm sure you would just love to see the world's largest nation go at it until they've destroyed oen another or are too weak to do anything. Clever tactic though.
Hirgizstan
01-02-2006, 18:28
Huahin, sssssh. You ain't part of any Alliance.

I also offer Bjornoya the nation of Rwanda and rights to resources around Harare in the DRC, Province 11, in return for land in Niger.
Huahin
01-02-2006, 18:34
Yes I am part of an alliance.
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 18:34
Official Statement from the P.F.B.

*segment of speech made by the Patriarch, broadcast from the national capitol of Esthar*

Bjornoya announces its withdrawal from the VCO.

We joined this organization in hopes of preventing war. Instead it seems to have accomplished just the opposite. This alliance; instead of being used as a defensive tool has been used to back potentially disastrous movements by certain member nations. Exchanges made with otherwise friendly nations have to be viewed with suspicion because of our association with the VCO.

This alliance no longer serves the best interests of our nation. We do not wish any ill towards its members and would like to continue relations but on an individual basis.

With its departure Bjornoya once again finds itself alone and isolated in the world. We may look upon this with fear or we may look upon this as an opportunity, an opportunity to start anew. Bjornoya has forged itself into a vast federation. We have incorporated millions of citizens in Africa who do not wish to be dragged into a conflict they know nothing about. Bjornoya will be more concerned with helping to re-vitalize this war-torn region rather than waste its energy avoiding a war it has nothing to do with. We look for peace in our nation, we look for a sound economical future, we look for the security and health of our citizens, we look for new opportunities.

We look to the west.

ooc: real reason I’m leaving is because I’m tired of being treated as if my presence has done nothing, I’m tired of being scolded, and I’m tired of having to clean up messes that aren’t mine. I’m tired of everything going to the extreme. This ooc immature squabbling has only intensified and I think the creation of the VCO is entirely to blame.
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 18:35
Huahin, sssssh. You ain't part of any Alliance.

I also offer Bjornoya the nation of Rwanda and rights to resources around Harare in the DRC, Province 11, in return for land in Niger.

confirmed
Neuvo Rica
01-02-2006, 18:38
Contact to the world:

The Neuvo Rican Empire Announces withdrawal from the VCO. This alliance system, in all it's profit was only dragging our nation closer to nuclear war with those whom we had no quarrel.

Until we should happen to apply to another group, the Neuvo Rican Empire is to maintain a state of armed neutrality. We can only hope our membership in this organisation has not bought us discredit with members of the October alliance.

ooc:

I don't want a nuclear war, which was were this was heading...
Marimaia
01-02-2006, 18:53
Official Communique

The United Eastasian Republic formally announces its withdrawal from the Voronej Cooperation Organisation.

The Eastasian people have spoken; in an official referendum 89% voted to leave the VCO after membership began to have an adverse effect on our nation's international status. We send our best wishes to those who were members of the VCO alongside us; we wish them the best in their future endeavours and hope to retain diplomatic ties.

For now, the UER is going into a period of self-reflection. Trade and diplomacy will continue as normal, but we ask to be recognised as neutral until any further notice. Any attempts to break our neutrality will be met with fierce opposition.
Cotland
01-02-2006, 19:43
Official communique

The Kingdom is plesantly surprised to see the massive withdrawal from the VCO, and hope that this will lead to stabilization of the world. As stated earlier, we wish no harm to any of the (ex)members of the VCO, and wish to resume our friendly relations with the nations in question.

- signed -
Office of the Prime Minister
Kingdom of Norway
Neuvo Rica
01-02-2006, 20:26
Neuvo Rica would be willing to trade any of the following for land in the Americas:

-Sudan
-Yemen
-Antarctica
-Sierra Leone
-OR Parts of Mexico for land in South America
Pushka
01-02-2006, 20:49
Okay then VCO is gone, great, TOA members do your happy dance, but if you think that now i am going to bend over and smile each time you have a feeling that you want to mess with my business you are mistaken.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 20:51
@Neuvo Rica: Can i still keep the bases we swapped?

@Marimia: We still going through with the ENERGOTRUST project?

@Bjornya: I am watching you.
Marimaia
01-02-2006, 20:54
@Marimia: We still going through with the ENERGOTRUST project?

If you're still interested, then so am I.
Neuvo Rica
01-02-2006, 20:55
I think it would be for the best if our base trades were undone
Bjornoya
01-02-2006, 20:56
And if you gaze for long into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you.
United States of Brink
01-02-2006, 21:05
Yay im almost at a billion people.

Just throwing this out there you can toss it right back if ya want.

Anyone willing to trade, sell, etc some South African Land?

Theres some Pacific Islands, money, and a handjob if anyone's interested?

j/k but seriously.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 21:18
Pushka you can remove people from the usergroup through the usergroup control panel. I will leave the forums there if you want, for now, but if you want me to delete them it is going to be your call.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 21:36
I think it would be for the best if our base trades were undone

Why? We're still friendly nations aren't we?
Pushka
01-02-2006, 21:36
If you're still interested, then so am I.

Okay, i am interested, we should have a meeting to discuss our new relations and this gas deal too.
Pyschotika
01-02-2006, 21:44
So hows that Paranoia dance going along for ya bud?

( You know who I am talking about )
Pushka
01-02-2006, 21:58
My paranoia is justfied, don't believe me look at what TOA been doing for the past several months.
Layarteb
01-02-2006, 22:02
LOL the best part of it is that we never really had any plans to do anything, we just played off your own perceptions and it worked beautifully.
Pushka
01-02-2006, 22:05
Official Announcement from the Russian Federation

We deeply regret this but it seems that the Voronej Cooperation Organization has disbanded itself. We respected the decisions of our allies in the past and we respect them now. We wish to keep friendly relations with ex-members of the VCO. However this disbandement in no way means that we will afraid or defeated, we will pursue justice in global politics just as fiercely as we have before, let these events not blind our wannabe enemies into thinking that we are weak, we are strong, and justice is on our side.

Vladimir Ivanov, President of Russian Federation
Cotland
01-02-2006, 23:13
Trouble in the Barents (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466524)

Attention Pushka

EDIT: Wrong name. The mods should alter it shortly.
RomeW
01-02-2006, 23:18
Rome-Would Goa work? I think I'll sell my Afghan stuff to TLS, just to see Lay explode. :D But either a nice wad of cash or some random land will work.

Goa works wonderfully. I was actually going to ask for it but I thought it'd be too important.

How about I also give you Samagan? That would bring me under the limit.

How about I buy Ellesmere Island off you?

Sorry, but Ellesmere remains mine.

Theres some Pacific Islands, money, and a handjob if anyone's interested?

Don't think you're female, so I'll pass, Fox.
[NS]Kreynoria
01-02-2006, 23:39
Yay im almost at a billion people.

Just throwing this out there you can toss it right back if ya want.

Anyone willing to trade, sell, etc some South African Land?

Theres some Pacific Islands, money, and a handjob if anyone's interested?

j/k but seriously.

I might trade Lesotho for some Pacific land and a bit of cash
Teh ninjas
02-02-2006, 00:15
Imperial Decree
In response to the worldwide military mobilizations the emperor has decided to increase the nation's territorial waters to 200km. Should any vessel not approved by the empire sail into this zone their vessel will be escorted out or sunk. (Madagascar, Cuba, and The Madeira Islands are exempt from this decree) Thank you.
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 00:30
*rushes off to find out what 200km is in Standard system*

EDIT- Oh (word I shouldnt say on the forums here) thats huge!

So Goa for those two places in Afghanistan is confirmed.

Does anyone else find it kind of ironic that in our Cold War, the alliance controlling mainly the Americas and W. Europe beat the group focused in China and Russia?
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 00:31
*rushes off to find out what 200km is in Standard system*

So Goa for those two places in Afghanistan is confirmed.

Does anyone else find it kind of ironic that in our Cold War, the alliance controlling mainly the Americas and W. Europe beat the group focused in China and Russia?

On RPs and stuff it always seems that RL events play out even when they aren't intended to, it makes you look at 20th century history in a much different light.
RomeW
02-02-2006, 00:32
Imperial Decree
In response to the worldwide military mobilizations the emperor has decided to increase the nation's territorial waters to 200km. Should any vessel not approved by the empire sail into this zone their vessel will be escorted out or sunk. (Madagascar, Cuba, and The Madeira Islands are exempt from this decree) Thank you.

The Roman Empire implores the Teh Ninjian Government to rethink its position for this effectively land-locks our new territories in Sudan, which we view as unjustified since Rome has made no moves against Teh Ninjas nor have we ever given any inclination to do so.

We also implore the Teh Ninjian Government to explore a diplomatic solution to their crises so as not to set off a destabilizing and debilitating world war.
Teh ninjas
02-02-2006, 00:38
Imperial Decree
The empire has always thought highly of the Romans so we can negotiate. Commercial vessels may go through, and the passage of military vessels may go through but only when we have been contacted of their presence.

Similiar water boundaries have been in effect in other nations for sometime, we are merely doing what they have done.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 00:44
I think I'm a pretty good bureaucrat:

OK, so whoever claims a territory gets all the islands associated with it correct? And if a territory becomes split its pieces go up for grabs correct? Well, Australia was split and so far I have no indication of these islands being claimed yet:

Christmas Island

Cocos Islands

Heard and McDonald Islands

If they are available I claim Christmas and Cocos Islands
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 00:46
Bjorn-Islands are often attatched to a particular state (Mass. has Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard for example) Try wikipedia.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 00:47
The Empire understands the motives of the Teh Ninjan government and will support it so long as it does not interfere with our own operations. Cuba being exempt ensures that the Caribbean be left unharmed by this decree so we cannot object.
Cotland
02-02-2006, 00:47
I occupied Christmas Island, Norfolk Islands and Lord Howe Islands with Marines and naval units when I nabbed Australia. Still occupying them.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 00:48
I did, said they were 'self-governing' so they must be independent of other territories within the nation.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 00:50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_Islands

'Territory of Australia' and unclaimed, good luck for me! I'll claim them then
RomeW
02-02-2006, 00:51
Imperial Decree
The empire has always thought highly of the Romans so we can negotiate. Commercial vessels may go through, and the passage of military vessels may go through but only when we have been contacted of their presence.

Similiar water boundaries have been in effect in other nations for sometime, we are merely doing what they have done.

Those terms are agreeable. However, while we understand the need for Teh Ninjas to do what it can to defend itself when threatened, we still implore Teh Ninjas to resolve its disputes diplomatically. We are willing to help out if the case may be.
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 00:52
Bjorn-How exactly does your government work, particularily when it comes to elections?
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 01:03
Bjorn-How exactly does your government work, particularily when it comes to elections?

Hmm, very complicated. It is more or less a somewhat static Aristocracy in the upper echelons (the Herrgotts). Newly acquired regions have their leaders selected by the best people people in Bjornoya from amongst the local populace. After aquiring certain merits and prooving themselves capable of handling themselves a semi-democracy is enstated locally and later for the entire state. For instance in the highly educated regions of the Bjornoyan mainland free and open elections occur every so often years for governing status (haven't decided yet, prbly about 3 years) We operate under a similar rationale used by the US nowadays. People under a certain age are not allowed to vote because they have not been educated well-enough to maturelly and rationally handle such situations. Similarly regions recently acquired (particularlly unidustrialized Africa) are not yet capable of self-governing considering they just had despots in power who instilled them with ideals that violate Bjornoyan beliefs in human rights. A fair amount of corruption exists as in all corporate democracies, Visara has a decent sway over the outcome of elections but is not malevolent.
I always keep in mind that Adolf was elected democratically, proof that democracy is not always the best solution.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 01:39
By all means Bjorn you are correct, he was. One only has to look at the American model and you can see just how little faith the founding fathers actually put into the ability of the people to elect the correct leaders. This is why the Electoral College exists and shall further exist (thank God!)

In the EOL we do something very different. We allow democracy but only on the local levels. Federal and state are authoritarian.

Ever read Federalist 10 from the Federalist Papers? By Alexander Hamilton?
Nikolaos The Great
02-02-2006, 01:42
Thats something like my nation. The federal government or known as the Imperial Throne is a dictator that has the final say on every major issue concerning the nation. Then there is the Assembly that is democratically elected that handles local issues like roads construction/repairs, building projects, etc...
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 01:52
The one about hindering the effects of factions? I remember vaguelly. Read it in philosophy class senior high-school year, best class I ever took.

Yeah, people forget the founding fathers restricted voting to only white-male-landowners. Many view this as appalling but I think the rationale for it is justifiable, perhaps I should say 'forgivable' to avoid complications, if they believed white-landowning-males were the most intelligent and worthy amongst the populace to elect leaders.

And even with this they had safe-guards.
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 01:57
My personal, OOC opinion is that people should take something like the naturalization test to earn the right to vote. If you're able to pass it at age 5, then you get to vote. If you can't pass it at 47, thank god you wouldn't be able to vote.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 02:00
I'd preffer something based on inteligence. I know 12 and 13 year-olds (work as a camp-counselor) who are way smarter politically than the idiots that surround me here on campus. It's not entirelly fair.
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 02:18
Well intelligence doesn't help if you don't know how many branches of government we have. Hell, lots of people on this forum are teenagers (myself included) and are smarter than any moron with a million bucks who feels like buying a senate seat. But seriously, my parents acknowledge the fact that I know more about this stuff than they do.
Turetel
02-02-2006, 02:24
Bjornoya,

You gave me the islands of Wallis and Futuna, but I need to know if they are under independent or French control (or any other nations for that matter). If you could tell me that would be great, thanks.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:24
*rushes off to find out what 200km is in Standard system*

EDIT- Oh (word I shouldnt say on the forums here) thats huge!

So Goa for those two places in Afghanistan is confirmed.

Does anyone else find it kind of ironic that in our Cold War, the alliance controlling mainly the Americas and W. Europe beat the group focused in China and Russia?

Well we didn't really loose, or collapse we just disbanded and TOA can hardly be called democratic or "the good guy".
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 02:26
Bjornoya,

You gave me the islands of Wallis and Futuna, but I need to know if they are under independent or French control (or any other nations for that matter). If you could tell me that would be great, thanks.

Due to recent events that deal is no longer viable as it was an arrangement of the now non-existant VCO. You'll have to forge your empire the old-fashioned way.
Turetel
02-02-2006, 02:26
Due to recent events that deal is no longer viable as it was an arrangement of the now non-existant VCO. You'll have to forge your empire the old-fashioned way.

Okay.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:30
Sorry man, Turetel but i don't think i can give you that much land since my alliance abandoned me and i am going through the tough period of reafirming my position on the global political playground. I wish i could give you something but i just can't.
Elephantum
02-02-2006, 02:31
Well, some people still wouldn't call the US the "good side" in the cold war. The RC was probably the most democratic bloc of our three
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:38
Well we did have the democratic system, remember that? Although some people did abuse their presence in the alliance, like, eh...Bjornya for example, basically taking my land away in exchange for nothing because we were in the same alliance and i thought he was looking out for the team.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:39
Anybody up for a commerical bloc type of alliance? Not a defense pact but say a free trade zone or something.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 02:40
Well, some people still wouldn't call the US the "good side" in the cold war. The RC was probably the most democratic bloc of our three

Yeah out of the TOA, Cotland was the only democracy. The rest just all authoritarian. It was funny though, nothing happened in our alliance without a majority vote.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:43
Hey Lay, Island of Rose is 20 dayts gone, do you mind letting me claim his part of Liberia for Turetel? Common dude its one day, its a small piece of land and Turetel needs land, and he might not be able to get it since by the time he logs on it will probably be snatched.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 02:44
Hey Lay, Island of Rose is 20 dayts gone, do you mind letting me claim his part of Liberia for Turetel? Common dude its one day, its a small piece of land and Turetel needs land, and he might not be able to get it since by the time he logs on it will probably be snatched.

You have to wait until 21 days.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:50
Dude, common we all know some asshole like Bjornya will snatch it just to screw it up for someone else. Is it so hard to make one exeption?
Tyrandis
02-02-2006, 02:50
Guys, I haven't even posted deployments, so wtf is going on with the Killswitch thread? Wait for me to bloody act before you respond for chrissakes.
United States of Brink
02-02-2006, 02:51
So i guess the South African thing hasnt set sail.... thats cool thats cool.

Offer still there.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 02:54
Since everyone seemed to miss it Heard and McDonald Islands are both available I believe.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 02:57
I claim Heard and MacDonald islands and transfer them to Turetel.
Turetel
02-02-2006, 02:59
I claim Heard and MacDonald islands and transfer them to Turetel.

Where can I find any information pretaining to these two lands on the current status of them, if anywhere.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 03:00
Just wait for Lay to confirm my claim and then confirm the transfer. I'll give you more detail on all the rest later.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 03:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island
Turetel
02-02-2006, 03:33
(I think this is how it works)

I claim The Island of Rose's land as his status is now D12, or at/past 21 days.

As I understand it, it is only a small part of Liberia, please tell me if I am wrong.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 03:33
TIOR = 21 day...go ahead and duke it out guys.
Hawdawg
02-02-2006, 03:33
Guys, I haven't even posted deployments, so wtf is going on with the Killswitch thread? Wait for me to bloody act before you respond for chrissakes.

I only responded to the retoric being pitched. Besides as I posted in Kill-Switch, I won't have my 3 divisions fully operational in Australia for 30 days. As I stated earlier your response will determine my course of action in this matter. Ramping up mobilization, etc. will draw a measured response from me. Its gonna take your fleet several weeks to sail to Australia anyway. I am waiting for your initial fleet movements, etc. before I drop the hammer or if I do anything at all.

-Hawdawg
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 03:34
(I think this is how it works)

I claim The Island of Rose's land as his status is now D12, or at/past 21 days.

As I understand it, it is only a small part of Liberia, please tell me if I am wrong.

Okay now all you got to do is RP for it.
Turetel
02-02-2006, 03:35
Okay now all you got to do is RP for it.

RP as in start a new thread and Role Play my take over of it, or RP it in this thread.

(Sorry for so many question, just rather do it right the first time through)
Hawdawg
02-02-2006, 03:36
Welcome Turetel.

Enjoy your stay. It's not a Holiday Inn Express, but its close.


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 03:37
RP as in start a new thread and Role Play my take over of it, or RP it in this thread.

(Sorry for so many question, just rather do it right the first time through)

Yep you got it (blue).
Turetel
02-02-2006, 03:52
Alrighty, I think I got it. Here is the thread : http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466580

Tell me if this is acceptable or if you had something else in mind.
Azimeth
02-02-2006, 04:08
Crisis in Azimeth: Reconstruction [EARTH II] - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10344593#post10344593
Pantheaa
02-02-2006, 04:51
Anybody up for a commerical bloc type of alliance? Not a defense pact but say a free trade zone or something.

Sure i would
Swimbabwe
02-02-2006, 04:55
Me too, I have plans for a large commercial fleet.
Pyschotika
02-02-2006, 05:25
I have plans for just laying waste on someone.
Neuvo Rica
02-02-2006, 16:54
Why? We're still friendly nations aren't we?

Yes, we are still friendly, but Neuvo Rica is becoming a neutral state and foreign military presences may be taken the wrong way.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 17:02
I think it's time that we open up our arsenal...
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 17:14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10343691&postcount=23

Yeah this video is worldwide released.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 17:25
Go ahead. Just don't forget our little DMZ.

Our DMZ is 15km right? I don't remember what the conditions of that trade were...do you still have them?
Pushka
02-02-2006, 17:34
Yes, we are still friendly, but Neuvo Rica is becoming a neutral state and foreign military presences may be taken the wrong way.

Hmm, alright.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 18:14
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Bjorn/TN [Post 9501]: Land traded.
Bjorn/Hirg [Post 9539]: Land traded.
Cotland [Post 9557]: Thread added.
RomeW/Elephantum [Post 9558]: Okay Rome you are just underneath the cap so take note of that alright?
Bjorn [Post 9565]: Cocos Islands is okay. So I shall give you them. You do realize you just claimed some of the most insignificant islands in the world right?
Cotland [Post 9568]: Adding those from the last post in Radau, next time say something earlier.
Pushka [Post 9595]: Heard and McDonald Islands to Turetel.
Turetel [Post 9606]: Thread & claim added.
Azimeth [Post 9607]: Thread added.
Cotland
02-02-2006, 18:27
9558? 9558 is Romes post, not mine. U must think of 9568...
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 18:31
9558? 9558 is Romes post, not mine. U must think of 9568...

Gotcha.
Bjornoya
02-02-2006, 20:03
Bjorn [Post 9565]: Cocos Islands is okay. So I shall give you them. You do realize you just claimed some of the most insignificant islands in the world right?


Yes, yes they are but it makes me happy.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 21:10
Whats so important about them?
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 21:20
Red Dawn = hot movie...a dozen 16 year olds defeat the whole Soviet Army.

GOD I LOVE THE 80s!
Pushka
02-02-2006, 21:37
From the reviews i read the guy who produced it was a neo-nazi.
Turetel
02-02-2006, 22:36
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Bjorn/TN [Post 9501]: Land traded.
Bjorn/Hirg [Post 9539]: Land traded.
Cotland [Post 9557]: Thread added.
RomeW/Elephantum [Post 9558]: Okay Rome you are just underneath the cap so take note of that alright?
Bjorn [Post 9565]: Cocos Islands is okay. So I shall give you them. You do realize you just claimed some of the most insignificant islands in the world right?
Cotland [Post 9568]: Adding those from the last post in Radau, next time say something earlier.
Pushka [Post 9595]: Heard and McDonald Islands to Turetel.
Turetel [Post 9606]: Thread & claim added.
Azimeth [Post 9607]: Thread added.










On land, the Taymyria Okrug was transferred back to Pushka.
Azimeth
02-02-2006, 22:42
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH. Cotland and Layarteb, what's all this about mobilizing against my forces and stuff? I was helping you, not threatening you!
Cotland
02-02-2006, 22:52
Call it paranoia. After all, my forces are preparing for imminent war...
Azimeth
02-02-2006, 22:54
Okay...I'll make Hofstria make a statement swearing allegiance to Norway and Australia's defense and all. I wouldn't do anything to harm you, Cotland, you should know that by now.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 23:23
From the reviews i read the guy who produced it was a neo-nazi.

Sidney Beckerman or Buzz Feitshans?
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 23:24
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH. Cotland and Layarteb, what's all this about mobilizing against my forces and stuff? I was helping you, not threatening you!

I am?
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 23:25
On land, the Taymyria Okrug was transferred back to Pushka.

You people need to make up your minds on this shit.
Pantheaa
03-02-2006, 00:24
Red Dawn = hot movie...a dozen 16 year olds defeat the whole Soviet Army.

GOD I LOVE THE 80s!

Very right wingest movie very!

from IMDB...


film depicting the invasion of the United States from the north and south by communist forces from Cuba and Russia in the beginning of WWIII and the efforts of partisans from a small mid-western town to turn back the invasion. This film is one of the basis of the beliefs of the citizens militias and patriot groups about the possiblity of a U.N. takeover of the U.S. The movie and the theory of the New World Order proposed by the militias are similar, invasion by a foreign force, a big gun grab, arrest of gun owners, military equipment being moved on railroads, enemy helicopters re-education facilities (concentration camps), and a citizen force that strikes back.

But the guy who directed it also makes the ROME Series on HBO (good show!)
and wrote Medal of Honor European assualt video game
RomeW
03-02-2006, 08:51
Hmmnnn....

I have to figure out a way to take 324.41 square miles of territory. Hmmmnnn...

EDIT- Lay, you can me the Roman Empire again.

EDIT2- Just for kicks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060203/ca_pr_on_na/sea_king_crash

In layman's terms, yet another Canadian military helicopter crashed. In fact, they happen with such frequency I'm surprised they even get off the ground. Certainly this won't help the worldwide perception that our military is 26th-rate (I don't even think it's good enough for second-rate). Sigh...
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 15:05
Hmmnnn....

I have to figure out a way to take 324.41 square miles of territory. Hmmmnnn...

EDIT- Lay, you can me the Roman Empire again.

EDIT2- Just for kicks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060203/ca_pr_on_na/sea_king_crash

In layman's terms, yet another Canadian military helicopter crashed. In fact, they happen with such frequency I'm surprised they even get off the ground. Certainly this won't help the worldwide perception that our military is 26th-rate (I don't even think it's good enough for second-rate). Sigh...


Yeah it's probably time to upgrade to the Black Hawk or the Huey or something I mean the Sea King is older than old.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 15:41
RED DAWN, I love in GTA San Andres when your in Ammu-Nation, there's a n add on the radio it goes, "Buy Armour Piercing bullets today and get a free copy of the documentary Red Dawn!"

Ah, the 1980s, what a time!

I have Red Dawn on DVD, they re-released it in 2004 in Europe. The Paratroopers scene is the best, although the helicopter scene in the desert is good, where the guy shouts 'WOLVERINES'.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 15:42
It's so Red Storm Rising like but I must say, GO WOLVERINES!!! It's like Afghanistan-US style.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 17:22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10353264&postcount=33

Radio Address from the Emperor to the Empire
Bjornoya
03-02-2006, 22:08
Operation: Reclamation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466878)

I love politicking, hehe
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 22:25
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Turetel [Post 9623]: Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
RomeW [Post 9631]: Gotcha.
Bjorn [Post 9636]: Thread added.






I've seen some E2 threads lying around out there but not mentioned in here. You guys might want to post them.
RomeW
03-02-2006, 22:41
Yeah it's probably time to upgrade to the Black Hawk or the Huey or something I mean the Sea King is older than old.

We're getting new helicopters in 2008...Cyclones...old Russian craft I believe. Though they won't be in service until 2011.

In the meantime, I'll just keep laughing at the Canadian Military...
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 22:42
We're getting new helicopters in 2008...Cyclones...old Russian craft I believe. Though they won't be in service until 2011.

In the meantime, I'll just keep laughing at the Canadian Military...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-148_Cyclone

New American craft.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 22:43
Its a 'Canadian' style upgrade, ;). I think the Irish Air Force is better equipped to be honest.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 22:44
Its a 'Canadian' style upgrade, ;). I think the Irish Air Force is better equipped to be honest.

Ireland has an Air Force? Wow...Ireland is the safest nation on Earth. I mean who have THEY invaded. They just drink and beat each other up, my kind of nation.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 22:51
Yeah we have an Air Force, mostly older planes, nothing really to use offensively. Just training planes and diplomatic couriers etc. We just got some new helicopters aswell, some new European small Helo. Quite nice looking with the IAF markings on them.

Our Army is pretty good too, very small but expertly trained, we have a lot of ties with Israel, the unarmed combat style for the Irish Defence Forces (IDF) is Krav Maga, same as Israel, who actually teach it to some of the Irish troops.
We also have the Irish Defence Forces Army Ranger Wing, the Sciathan Fhiannoglaigh an Airm, widely regarded as one of the best SF units in the world. They train mostly with Delta Force and Sayeret Mat'kal. A lot of them go to the Ranger School at Ft.Benning and go through other US programs.
RomeW
03-02-2006, 23:23
The Sirkosky is American? I didn't know...the name sounded Russian (at least the inventor's name sounds Russian).

Still, I just hope these Cyclones won't fall apart like the Sea Kings...
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 23:26
Yeah Sikorsky is an American company.
Bjornoya
03-02-2006, 23:39
Few Notes:

Bjornoya island was transferred to Cotland

Teh Ninja's Niger and Burundi was traded to me for 10 & 3 of DRC (land was given to TN but not to me)

That slice of Niger was traded to Hirgizstan for Rwanda.
RomeW
03-02-2006, 23:43
Yeah Sikorsky is an American company.

This might bode well for us...functioning aircraft! Yay! The Canadian press always likes to rag on the Sea Kings for their unreliability, underscoring the perception our military is a joke.

Does the Irish military get the same amount of flak or is it actually respected?
Bjornoya
03-02-2006, 23:50
Few Notes:

Bjornoya island was transferred to Cotland

Teh Ninja's Niger and Burundi was traded to me for 10 & 3 of DRC (land was given to TN but not to me)

That slice of Niger was traded to Hirgizstan for Rwanda.

So it doesn't get buried.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 23:51
The Irish Military is sort of a non-issue, it doesn't do much in Ireland. Mostly peacekeeping elsewhere in the world. People respect it, but its never really in the news.

Also, I think it was the fault of Canada's former Government that the military was under-funded, expect that to change now.
Elephantum
03-02-2006, 23:52
In one of the programs I do at school, we are sort of RPing as Australia. I'm in charge of defense and diplomacy. I just did a quick scan in a few books I have about ships and planes, and the Air Force and Navy aren't much to be proud of. Canada should invade them to prove the military can still do something.
Azimeth
04-02-2006, 04:01
I always thought Australia was kind of rubbish military-wise...Some of their ground troops are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan still, correct? They're one of the few allies there that we have left.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 04:32
The Sirkosky is American? I didn't know...the name sounded Russian (at least the inventor's name sounds Russian).

Still, I just hope these Cyclones won't fall apart like the Sea Kings...

Sikorsky was began by Sikorsky who was Russian, well he was technically Polish but he was born then Poland was a part of the Russian Empire. He was Tupolev's classmate at the engineering academy.
Hawdawg
04-02-2006, 05:07
I always thought Australia was kind of rubbish military-wise...Some of their ground troops are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan still, correct? They're one of the few allies there that we have left.

Aussies have a really tough Ranger school. They are formidable allies to have in battle. Fearless just like the New Zealander's. I would take them and a few Mongolian warriors into any battle.

-Hawdawg
Pushka
04-02-2006, 19:18
Message from Russian Federation

Due to the fact of EOL's current mobilizations i am raising the awareness status of Russian Federation armed forces. I would also like to add that we are prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend ourselves from foreign threats, with that being said i am also ordering the reopening of the nuclear weapons production program with the goal of 41000 nuclear warheads to be produced and assigned to the army by years end.

-Vladimir Ivanov.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 22:47
Marimia check TGs.
Hawdawg
05-02-2006, 04:43
Message to Russian Federation

If Nuclear Weapons are launched from sites in Russia and there said path takes them over Hawdawg territory, we will not hesitate to strike at these nuclear payloads before they impact targets in and around our nation. A nuclear weapon launched over our territory regardless of its height in the atmosphere is a breach of our air space and threatens the well being of our citizens. We advise the Russian Federation to rethink its nuclear policy for the sake of the lives of the noncombatants it would effect. We only maintain a small nuclear weapons program, but we have an extensive SDI program that can and will be utilized to disable and destroy Russian fired missiles if they target nations close to our borders.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Teh ninjas
05-02-2006, 04:46
OOC: Here's an interesting thought. What happens if someone goes loony and nukes every major city in the world? Would we be forced to RP the remaining citizens of our nation, or is E2 just done?
RomeW
05-02-2006, 09:39
The Roman Empire implores all nations to set aside their differences and resolve their issues diplomatically, to which we will be willing to provide a forum. We are disturbed and deeply worried that these grievances have progressed to the point of nuclear annihilation and fear that the world's innocent citizens could be destroyed because of a few angry politicians. We understand that recent events have put a hinderance to dialogue, but in the interests of worldwide stability and peace- not to mention the avoidance of irreparable damage due to a Nuclear Holocaust- we implore everyone to please attempt it.
Neuvo Rica
05-02-2006, 13:06
ooc:@TN: You could RP the establishment of a completely new world, technology will go out the window I'm guessing...
Hirgizstan
05-02-2006, 15:29
Reagonica has agreed to sell me his part of Antarctica and Mozambique for an undisclosed sum.
Pushka
05-02-2006, 16:39
Message to Russian Federation

If Nuclear Weapons are launched from sites in Russia and there said path takes them over Hawdawg territory, we will not hesitate to strike at these nuclear payloads before they impact targets in and around our nation. A nuclear weapon launched over our territory regardless of its height in the atmosphere is a breach of our air space and threatens the well being of our citizens. We advise the Russian Federation to rethink its nuclear policy for the sake of the lives of the noncombatants it would effect. We only maintain a small nuclear weapons program, but we have an extensive SDI program that can and will be utilized to disable and destroy Russian fired missiles if they target nations close to our borders.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

We are doing this to prepare the last line protection measure against increasingly aggressive nations of the October Alliance. I would also like to add, that you might be overestimating the ability of your SDIs to beat our high technology missiles, this is not to be taken as a threat, but as a friendly reminder. I repeat once again, if we are attacked by the October Alliance for whatever reason we will NOT stop at any barrier until our enemy is ejected from our land and has suffered enough to realize that attacking our great nation is the least wisest of moves they might make.

-Vladimir Mishin, President of Russian Federation
Pushka
05-02-2006, 16:44
The Roman Empire implores all nations to set aside their differences and resolve their issues diplomatically, to which we will be willing to provide a forum. We are disturbed and deeply worried that these grievances have progressed to the point of nuclear annihilation and fear that the world's innocent citizens could be destroyed because of a few angry politicians. We understand that recent events have put a hinderance to dialogue, but in the interests of worldwide stability and peace- not to mention the avoidance of irreparable damage due to a Nuclear Holocaust- we implore everyone to please attempt it.

We have tried to solve these issues peacefully, we even now are still open to peacetalks. However the Layatrebian Empire has shown that they do not wish for easing of tensions, in the most illogical way in which they usually act they have rejected proposal for diplomatic peacetalks and are still trying to do whatever they can to hinder Russian interests. We do not believe that there is a forum that Empire of Layatreb or its allies in the October Alliance will respect, if such a forum is created and the Empire of Layatreb shows its desire for peace and easing of tensions then we will be happy to resolve this issues diplomatically. If not then we will not bother ourselves to go to another meeting and sign another document of peace that the Empire of Layatreb and its allies will not respect.

-Vladimir Ivanov, Russian Federation
Elephantum
05-02-2006, 17:01
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467113

The Right Number of Elephants (possibly the only EII thread that won't lead to people pointing nukes at each other)
Hawdawg
05-02-2006, 17:08
We are doing this to prepare the last line protection measure against increasingly aggressive nations of the October Alliance. I would also like to add, that you might be overestimating the ability of your SDIs to beat our high technology missiles, this is not to be taken as a threat, but as a friendly reminder. I repeat once again, if we are attacked by the October Alliance for whatever reason we will NOT stop at any barrier until our enemy is ejected from our land and has suffered enough to realize that attacking our great nation is the least wisest of moves they might make.

-Vladimir Mishin, President of Russian Federation

Hawdawg Response

We interpreted your message as using Nuclear Weapons for a first strike option. With the MAD (mutually assured destruction) that exists on our planet, we shouldn't be waving nuclear weapons at each other. Regardless nuclear payloads that violate our airspace will be dealt with accordingly.

Second point, it has come to our attention you have sent threatening overtures to the Bjornian Government about there conquest of New Caledonia. In fact, you country has laid some false imperialistic claim to it. We will not allow your forces to expel Bjornian Forces from New Caledonia and request your Fleets you have put to sea return home. This is a regional matter that doesn't need to involve the Russian Navy. Now to further convince the Russian Federation of this, we have put or will put to sea no less than (4) Battle Groups and will position ourselves between the Bjornians and your flotilla. If actions are taken to attack the Bjornians, we will react accordingly.

-Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

-----------------------------------------------------------------

OOC: I never said my technology was fool-proof in SDI, the fact that I have a triple redundant system over three seperate locations would increase the overall odds that I would have a significant chance to knock down a majority of missiles that where inbound. No system is 100% effective, no matter who makes it. Just like no plane, tank, bomber, etc. is 100% impervious to attack.

Secondly, I have a huge financial stake in Bjorn. through oil investments and over a trillion dollars in stocks invested through his BSE market. Of which, I would like to remind you that you have shares marketed with him also. The moment that you threatened his country the value of your stocks should have hit junk bond status. This attack would cripple his country and severely damage the profit margins I have made in the market. I will not allow for someone to launch an attack on his country and screw up the long term investment strategy I have been working on for weeks to ensure a consistent revenue stream for my government projects. If you want an island in the Pacific buy one from somebody.
Pushka
05-02-2006, 17:14
We do not bow down to threats, and we will not remove our forces from there they are. We have regarded the nation of Hawdawg as a neutral but friendly nation we could work with, now that you have made a decision to join the October Alliance it seems that our own relations must adapt and shift accordingly, sadly in a negative way since the October Alliance has no desire to lower the tensions and we will not be begging for peace, long lasting peace can only be reached if both parties desire it mutually, right now this is not the case.

-Vladimir Ivanov
Bjornoya
05-02-2006, 18:31
Few Notes:

Bjornoya island was transferred to Cotland

Teh Ninja's Niger and Burundi was traded to me for 10 & 3 of DRC (land was given to TN but not to me)

That slice of Niger was traded to Hirgizstan for Rwanda.

Just in case wasn't seen
Hawdawg
05-02-2006, 18:47
Bjron. check your TG's and please respond, thank you.

-Hawdawg
Bjornoya
05-02-2006, 18:53
done
Hawdawg
05-02-2006, 19:07
We do not bow down to threats, and we will not remove our forces from there they are. We have regarded the nation of Hawdawg as a neutral but friendly nation we could work with, now that you have made a decision to join the October Alliance it seems that our own relations must adapt and shift accordingly, sadly in a negative way since the October Alliance has no desire to lower the tensions and we will not be begging for peace, long lasting peace can only be reached if both parties desire it mutually, right now this is not the case.

-Vladimir Ivanov

Hawdawg Response

If you desire peace in the region, turn your fleet around and sail home. I will do the same. My P-3C's will be arriving over your fleet shortly. They will shadow your surface vessels while they sail south. The minute they change direction for port, I will halt my fleet and return them to there respective home ports.

As far as our membership in TOA, it hasn't changed our position. We still are who we are. We didn't make a big deal about it, and we don't "alliance name drop". We are a reasonable people with reasonable ideals, yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Membership in an organization doesn't change that.

-Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Elephantum
05-02-2006, 19:11
Did the views column max out at 100,000?
Turetel
05-02-2006, 19:42
Did the views column max out at 100,000?

Looks like it is that way.
Elephantum
05-02-2006, 20:02
Well then we've got the White Tower beat there. We just need a few thousand more posts. Everyone post like you've never posted before!
Pushka
05-02-2006, 20:11
Hawdawg Response

If you desire peace in the region, turn your fleet around and sail home. I will do the same. My P-3C's will be arriving over your fleet shortly. They will shadow your surface vessels while they sail south. The minute they change direction for port, I will halt my fleet and return them to there respective home ports.

As far as our membership in TOA, it hasn't changed our position. We still are who we are. We didn't make a big deal about it, and we don't "alliance name drop". We are a reasonable people with reasonable ideals, yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Membership in an organization doesn't change that.

-Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

As i had said before, we do not bow down to threats.

-Vladimir Ivanov
Bjornoya
05-02-2006, 20:24
Did the views column max out at 100,000?

no way, 100,019- Go E2!
Teh ninjas
05-02-2006, 21:24
Rebellion Strikes the Empire

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467213
Yerffej
05-02-2006, 22:03
Swimbabwe is transfering his Sri Lankan possessions to me.
Swimbabwe
05-02-2006, 22:05
Confirm.
Cotland
05-02-2006, 22:15
Yerffej! Welcome back!
Bjornoya
05-02-2006, 22:34
Wow, the 'original thread creator' stated in decree 10?
Hawdawg
05-02-2006, 23:13
Welcome back.


-Hawdawg
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 00:21
Aye, bow to the man who gave us this bounty.

Welcome back Yerffej!
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 00:42
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plan1om.swf

Think this is what was settled on:

Cot gets northern slice.

Azimeth gets middle chunk

Terronian keeps SW chunk

Bjornoya obtains Kangaroo Island, New Caledonia, Kiribata, Tuvalu, and Tonga

If I missed anythign please speak up.
Cotland
06-02-2006, 00:44
Confirming that I got what's listed on the map.
Hawdawg
06-02-2006, 00:45
Notice:

I will be out of town for business from Monday until Friday afternoon. All important things requiring my attention will have to wait until then.

-Hawdawg
Terronian
06-02-2006, 00:54
I too confirm what was posted.
Azimeth
06-02-2006, 02:09
I confirm as well. Also...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467269 - Azimeth Begins Massive Changes [ATTN: E2]
[NS]Kreynoria
06-02-2006, 03:06
Whoa...I am not agreeing to anything unless I get Kiribati.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 03:09
I have Kiribati so can't go to war with Terronian over it, have to go through me, but let's talk.
The Lightning Star
06-02-2006, 03:16
Swimbabwe is transfering his Sri Lankan possessions to me.

Hey, sweet! Now I have ANOTHER neighbor!

If you'd like any information on how I shaped Sri Lanka during my...forever owning it, just ask.
Linebackerdude
06-02-2006, 04:11
Kreynoria promised me Lesotho so I am joining Earth II. I confirm the land sale. Here's my miltiary info:

1x Revion class Battleship
5x Kelis class Cruisers
13x Tritus class Frigates
1x Nurio-T class Troop Carrier

20x Rovak Fighters
10x Rusiav Fighters
15x Bruntik Bombers
20x Harpy WIG Craft
1x Yarui Cargo Plane

100x Tenoth III Tank
200x Armadillo I IFV
12x Ulya II AA Tank
2x Gara II MLRS


1,000,000x MTW-01 assault rifle
1,000,000x MTW-02 automatic pistol
100,000x MTW-103 machine gun
1,100,000x MTC-01 body armour
1,000,000x Warrior headsets
400x MTW-04 Surge missile launcher
400x MTW-05 sniper rifle
[NS]Kreynoria
06-02-2006, 04:13
I hereby confirm the transition of Lesotho to Linebackerdude (he's a neighbor I referred to Earth II and NationStates).
Elephantum
06-02-2006, 04:14
Especially to Yefferj, but to anyone else as well: If you feel like invading my Indian provinces, and taking some of the northern ones, feel free. Might not be easy, but it'd be fun.
Pushka
06-02-2006, 04:23
Kreynoria check TGs.
Teh ninjas
06-02-2006, 04:26
Breaking News
The Super Bowl was rigged. I'm broke.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 04:28
Breaking News
The Super Bowl was rigged. I'm broke.

I'll collect my $1,000 this week...You better have it!
Yerffej
06-02-2006, 04:35
Hey, thanks for all the welcome backs guys, I certainly wasn't expecting that. I may have invented this thing, but make no mistake- Layarteb has much more to do with it's current popularity than I do.

The Lighting Star: That'd be great! Just telegram me the information.

Elephantum: Actually, I want to spend some time getting set up in Sri Lanka before I go invading everything. But leave it on the table, I'd love to do it eventually.
The Lightning Star
06-02-2006, 04:37
I'll collect my $1,000 this week...You better have it!

That ref was horrible, just horrible. However, it was a fun game, even though I'm down $60. Well, technically my dad is down $60, but if he had won I would be buying a fancy new MP3 player right now...
Teh ninjas
06-02-2006, 04:37
I'll collect my $1,000 this week...You better have it!
Way to jump on the bandwagon. I'm telling you the NFL rigged the game. Didn't you notice the Steelers players hugging the Lombardi trophy in the commercial. It's almost like they're giving us signs that the games rigged.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 04:44
Sorry I don't watch football nor did I watch the Superbowl but I'll take your word on it. I believe baseball was rigged after the Red Sox won and how the Yankees lost in '01.
Yerffej
06-02-2006, 04:47
Sorry I don't watch football nor did I watch the Superbowl but I'll take your word on it. I believe baseball was rigged after the Red Sox won and how the Yankees lost in '01.
Hehehehe
Tyrandis
06-02-2006, 04:48
Agnus Dei - Happy happy wartime! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467297)

Bjorn, you may wish to read this.
The Lightning Star
06-02-2006, 04:48
Sorry I don't watch football nor did I watch the Superbowl but I'll take your word on it. I believe baseball was rigged after the Red Sox won and how the Yankees lost in '01.

It wasn't rigged when we won; it was just one of those rare instances where we manage to win. Of course, we aren't getting another one of those for a loooooong time.
Teh ninjas
06-02-2006, 04:51
You don't watch football... It's only the greatest American event. I won't hold it against you though, personally I think the Giants should of gone all the way.

Personally I think the Yankees do most of the rigging in baseball. Steinbrener is absolutely loaded.
Teh ninjas
06-02-2006, 04:54
It wasn't rigged when we won; it was just one of those rare instances where we manage to win. Of course, we aren't getting another one of those for a loooooong time.

Red Sox fan?
You're now immediately on my list of embargoed nations.
Xeraph
06-02-2006, 05:21
Sorry I don't watch football nor did I watch the Superbowl but I'll take your word on it. I believe baseball was rigged after the Red Sox won and how the Yankees lost in '01.


Amen, brother....
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 06:52
Agnus Dei - Happy happy wartime! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467297)

Bjorn, you may wish to read this.

What part of my repetitive 'bad timing to be at war with Bjornoya' was misinterpretted?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:01
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Bjorn [Post 9645]: Svalbard moved to Cotland. Niger was moved to you and then to Hirgy. Rwanda was moved to you. You could have just said that I never added Bjorn to Cot or Burundi to you.
Teh Ninjas [Post 9656]: Certainly if someone does they're going to be hated by everyone and technically, if it is legit, then yes it would affect the whole world. Who is to say it would eradicate the whole populace but I do not know. No, it won't be the end of E2.
Hirgy [Post 9659]: Reagonica just needs to confirm Mozambique and Antarctica to you.
Elephantum [Post 9662]: Thread added and yes nukes = lame.
Elephantum [Post 9669]: Nope, it's at 100,414 right now. We are the first thread to break 100,000 views and will soon be the 2nd to break 10,000 posts. We'll never catch White Tower in posts though, they are a good 5,000+ ahead of us but hey, 2nd isn't that bad. Great work guys!
Yerffej [Post 9675]: No problem. Welcome back man!
Swimbabwe [Post 9676]: That was nice of you to give him that land. You do realize you don't have any left right? Was that your intention?
Bjornoya [Post 9681]: Could you guys have split that up any more fucked up? Well the land sizes went 1/2 to Terro, 1/4 to Cot & 1/4 to Azi on that province. I'm not thinking too hard on the math for the land area sizes, if anyone wants to get mathematical go ahead.
Hawdawg [Post 9683]: You got it buddy.
Azimeth [Post 9685]: Thread added.
Linebackerdude [Post 9689]: You got it, transfered over. You do realize you are land-locked though, right?
TLS [Post 9696]: Get a Creative Zen Sleek, I have it. It is about the same size as the iPod Mini was (a little bigger) but it holds 20GB vs. 5GB. Yeah I say do that, sound is awesome.
Tyrandis [Post 9700]: Thread added.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 08:04
sorry, didn't know how much paperwork I needed to include. I spend way too much time staring at the Africa map.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:09
It's all goooood.

Fucking can't sleep :(
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 08:11
I noticed that, like 2 or 3 o'clock your way? Take some Nyquil
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:15
I noticed that, like 2 or 3 o'clock your way? Take some Nyquil

Luckily I don't have to be up at 0500, only 0800 but still...argh!
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 08:22
Shit man, large doses of Nyquil is all I can think of. Oh and sleeping for 4 hours sometime makes you feel better than sleeping 6 due to the human sleep cycle.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:23
Shit man, large doses of Nyquil is all I can think of. Oh and sleeping for 4 hours sometime makes you feel better than sleeping 6 due to the human sleep cycle.

Yeah what is that cycle anyway? Arcadia Rhythm I know the name but what is the numbers again?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:27
My 2,000th post in this thread :)

Well at least one thing. Only 22% of my post total comes from this thread. That's not so bad. Some of the people in White Tower have 50% and more of their post total being just that single thread.
RomeW
06-02-2006, 08:31
Way to jump on the bandwagon. I'm telling you the NFL rigged the game. Didn't you notice the Steelers players hugging the Lombardi trophy in the commercial. It's almost like they're giving us signs that the games rigged.

The officiating WAS bad...how was that first Seattle touchdown NOT a touchdown? Darrell Jackson barely tapped the guy. The refs don't whistle it even when it's flagrant, yet here they did it with a small shove. Oh, and I don't even know HOW Ben Rothliesberger crossed the line (unless they counted his head as the ball...).

Though I personally believe Seattle lost the game more than Pittsburgh won it. They executed well until the point where they needed to most- in the red zone. Josh Brown missed two field goals (though mind you they were long), and the Seahawks appeared pretty jittery when Matt Hasselbeck threw the interception to Ike Taylor. They also repeatedly had the Steelers offence at 3rd down and failed to seal the deal- remember, the Willie Parker run, the 37-yard Hines Ward completion and the Rothliesberger "touchdown" were all third-down conversions. This was about failed execution. The Seahawks lost Super Bowl XL- the Steelers didn't win it.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 08:32
Yeah what is that cycle anyway? Arcadia Rhythm I know the name but what is the numbers again?

Circadian rhythm, from what I recall from psych there's a normal 8 hour sleep time but cut in half is a time where the mind is most active, about 4 hours so if one wakes up then they feel a bit more awake than if they woke up after 6 or 7 hours. Catches up later though.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 08:35
Circadian rhythm, from what I recall from psych there's a normal 8 hour sleep time but cut in half is a time where the mind is most active, about 4 hours so if one wakes up then they feel a bit more awake than if they woke up after 6 or 7 hours. Catches up later though.

Ah cool. Yeah I studied it in Psyche too but I don't remember it all that well. Yeah I have to say I slept 11 hours the other day man, talk about GROGGY! Okay going to go now I am tired officially. Check your TGs by the way.
Neuvo Rica
06-02-2006, 09:48
My 2,000th post in this thread :)

Well at least one thing. Only 22% of my post total comes from this thread. That's not so bad. Some of the people in White Tower have 50% and more of their post total being just that single thread.

How can you tell?
The Lightning Star
06-02-2006, 12:36
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Bjorn [Post 9645]: Svalbard moved to Cotland. Niger was moved to you and then to Hirgy. Rwanda was moved to you. You could have just said that I never added Bjorn to Cot or Burundi to you.
Teh Ninjas [Post 9656]: Certainly if someone does they're going to be hated by everyone and technically, if it is legit, then yes it would affect the whole world. Who is to say it would eradicate the whole populace but I do not know. No, it won't be the end of E2.
Hirgy [Post 9659]: Reagonica just needs to confirm Mozambique and Antarctica to you.
Elephantum [Post 9662]: Thread added and yes nukes = lame.
Elephantum [Post 9669]: Nope, it's at 100,414 right now. We are the first thread to break 100,000 views and will soon be the 2nd to break 10,000 posts. We'll never catch White Tower in posts though, they are a good 5,000+ ahead of us but hey, 2nd isn't that bad. Great work guys!
Yerffej [Post 9675]: No problem. Welcome back man!
Swimbabwe [Post 9676]: That was nice of you to give him that land. You do realize you don't have any left right? Was that your intention?
Bjornoya [Post 9681]: Could you guys have split that up any more fucked up? Well the land sizes went 1/2 to Terro, 1/4 to Cot & 1/4 to Azi on that province. I'm not thinking too hard on the math for the land area sizes, if anyone wants to get mathematical go ahead.
Hawdawg [Post 9683]: You got it buddy.
Azimeth [Post 9685]: Thread added.
Linebackerdude [Post 9689]: You got it, transfered over. You do realize you are land-locked though, right?
TLS [Post 9696]: Get a Creative Zen Sleek, I have it. It is about the same size as the iPod Mini was (a little bigger) but it holds 20GB vs. 5GB. Yeah I say do that, sound is awesome.
Tyrandis [Post 9700]: Thread added.









I'm not made out of money, foo'. I'm aiming low (Creative Zen Nano Plus 1 gig). If I were to magically come into another $200, then I'd buy the Sleek.
[NS]Kreynoria
06-02-2006, 13:59
Actually, NG gave me rights to a highway and a small port when I claimed Lesotho. I believe those are being transferred to Linebackerdude as well.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 17:40
I'm not made out of money, foo'. I'm aiming low (Creative Zen Nano Plus 1 gig). If I were to magically come into another $200, then I'd buy the Sleek.

Mug a few Panamanians.
Pushka
06-02-2006, 17:46
What part of my repetitive 'bad timing to be at war with Bjornoya' was misinterpretted?

Non, you just overestimate your abilities and he doesn't care about that.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 18:07
Non, you just overestimate your abilities and he doesn't care about that.

Pushka, I'm pretty sure this is flamebaiting. Insulting me in a comment that wasn't directed at you. Do not talk to me if I'm not talking to you, and don't throw insults.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 18:28
I agree. Cool it. Take it to the Debate Forum if you want.


ATTENTION ALL EARTH II
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10371738&postcount=51

Please read.
Cotland
06-02-2006, 18:53
PRESS RELEASE
Ministry of Defense
The Kingdom of Norway

Yesterday evening at 2050 Greenwich Main Time, the Royal Norwegian Naval Vessel KNM 'Fusa' (D125), a destroyer of the Devlin Flight I class lost propulsion and main power following engine failure. The 'Fusa' was slated for decommission in two weeks and was on a final standard patrol in the Barents Sea, roughly 77 nautical miles from Russian territorial waters when the incident occured. As a result of the engine failure, the 'Fusa' came adrift with a heading which brought her on a direct path towards Russian territorial waters.

Despite numerous repair efforts, the damages were too substantial for repairs, and after drifting for the better part of 11 hours and being on the verge of entering Russian territorial waters, the 'Fusa' was abandoned. While still in international waters, the 'Fusa' was sunk by Norwegian naval aviation craft rather than to be handed over to the Russian Federation in order to ensure the protection of Norwegian national security. The 'Fusa' went down at 0730 GMT at a position 30 nautical miles from Severnaya Zemlya, a Russian posession. The evacuation went smoothly, and the crew were later rescued by Hirgizstanian and Layartebian naval units responding to the distress call. There are no casualties reported. The crew is expected to arrive in Murmansk in 2 days.

The reason for the engine failure is as of yet unknown, pending debriefing of the crew.
Azimeth
06-02-2006, 18:56
I sense World War III. Also, TLS [Carthage], when you get a chance, check your TGs.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:06
I might be going to DC this week from Wednesday to Sunday. Just FYI.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:14
I think this shit shoud be put on hold til NG, Hawdawg, and Tyrandis are back
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 22:16
I think this shit shoud be put on hold til NG, Hawdawg, and Tyrandis are more active.

I agree. If this is going to be EII's WWII, let's have everyone around so that it's not in drips. Otherwise it'll go on forever....
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:17
I agree. If this is going to be EII's WWII, let's have everyone around so that it's not in drips. Otherwise it'll go on forever....

You gonna join the party?
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 22:19
You gonna join the party?

Maybe I will and maybe I won't.....

I leave thee with a riddle:

I'm hard yet soft, I am coloured yet clear, I am fruity and sweet. I am jelly. What am I?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:22
I think this shit shoud be put on hold til NG, Hawdawg, and Tyrandis are back

I don't know when NG will be back. HAw will be back end of the week and didn't know Tyrandis was away but in that case. Sure...
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:26
Maybe I will and maybe I won't.....

I leave thee with a riddle:

I'm hard yet soft, I am coloured yet clear, I am fruity and sweet. I am jelly. What am I?

Jelly!
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 22:31
Jelly!

Bingo! Now the real riddle....what tv show is that from?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:32
Bingo! Now the real riddle....what tv show is that from?

O O O ! I know

How to make Jelly?!
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 22:33
O O O ! I know

How to make Jelly?!

You're close but you're way off.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:34
Bingo! Now the real riddle....what tv show is that from?

Little Britain
Marimaia
06-02-2006, 22:35
Little Britain

Bingo again! All hail Bjornoya, the fountain of knowledge!

*bows*
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:38
Bingo again! All hail Bjornoya, the fountain of knowledge!

*bows*

You know......
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:38
Yeah! do I win anything?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:41
A lifetime supply of jokes I just don't understand. LOL!
Pushka
06-02-2006, 22:43
I don't know when NG will be back. HAw will be back end of the week and didn't know Tyrandis was away but in that case. Sure...

Tyrandis was here just yesterday, i don't think he is really gone. Waiting for Haw is reasonable i guess but waiting for NG, i mean we don't know when he is going to show up it maybe a month or several weeks.
Pushka
06-02-2006, 22:46
Pushka, I'm pretty sure this is flamebaiting. Insulting me in a comment that wasn't directed at you. Do not talk to me if I'm not talking to you, and don't throw insults.

On what authority can you order me around?
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:48
On what authority can you order me around?

Decree 14.
Bjornoya
06-02-2006, 22:49
On what authority can you order me around?

By the rules of NS forums. Any more from you and I won't hesitate to summon the mods to enforce them since that is perhaps the only people you will show any respect.

Not another post after this, no sly and insulting comebacks, not another word.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:50
By the rules of NS forums. Any more from you and I won't hesitate to summon the mods to enforce them since that is perhaps the only people you will show any respect.

Not another post after this, no sly and insulting comebacks, not another word.

Like I said earlier...DEBATE...FORUM...THAT'S THE PURPOSE...
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:52
Pushka keep it up and I will have the mods come in here, delete all of these repetative posts. I know you might be trying to violate D14 and make me kick you out of E2 but it won't happen.
Pushka
06-02-2006, 22:55
Jolt died on me i pressessed the button 3 times, i deleted them anyways, so shoot me.
Layarteb
06-02-2006, 22:55
Jolt died on me i pressessed the button 3 times, i deleted them anyways, so shoot me.

Thank you.

:: Reaches for .500 Magnum S&W ::
Cotland
06-02-2006, 22:57
Jolt died on me i pressessed the button 3 times, i deleted them anyways, so shoot me.
*Targets Pushka*

*squeeze trigger*

*shoots Pushka*

:p
Pushka
06-02-2006, 22:59
Yeah i took it to the debate forum, got a little revelation waiting for Mr. Bjorn down there.