NationStates Jolt Archive

And noticed their hasn't been a Kursk post in a long time, but civilains can survive and go to underground bunkers.

So you don't consider your 3 line RP god mod huh?
I will win Portugal im sure of it

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This very amusing gif was brought to you by bored, depressed, lonely James.

http://www.quinnell.us/entertainment/movies/kevinsmith/dogma/images/buddychrist.jpg

I don't know why, but that picture always makes me laugh.

http://bepassersby.org/blog_images/jesus_knocking.jpg

I don't even know why this is funny.

Revelation 3:20

Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

I wonder if Jesus would like a Bacon Avacado Colby-Jack Cheeseburger with Fresh Basil? I know I would, off to dinner!

Does Sparta dom also go by the name Sparta Infensus?

Revelation 3:20

Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

I wonder if Jesus would like a Bacon Avacado Colby-Jack Cheeseburger with Fresh Basil? I know I would, off to dinner!

That must be it. Jesus is coming to dinner! :)

That must be it. Jesus is coming to dinner! :)

Do you have extra silverwear...
fit for Jesus?

(wow, I have a godly metabolism or cooking skills, that took like 10 minutes tops to cook and eat...)

Do you have extra silverwear...
fit for Jesus?

(wow, I have a godly metabolism or cooking skills, that took like 10 minutes tops to cook and eat...)

I have 2 plates 2 bowls 2 cups and 4 spoons.

I have 2 plates 2 bowls 2 cups and 4 spoons.

Hmmm... so how exactly are you going to eat the bread and fish? And what about the wine? No red-wine glasses?

Hmmm... so how exactly are you going to eat the bread and fish? And what about the wine? No red-wine glasses?

you can put bread and fish on plates yes? and you could drink wine from plastic cups if absolutely necessary.

Huahin [Post 12933]: Bassas da India, Europa Island is part of Réunion. British Indian Ocean Territory is claimed by Hawdawg as part of the UK. Saint-Pierre and Miquelon is owned by North Germania as part of France.



Can we have some kind of rule on these things, as I don't think it's right that nations should have all the land belonging indirectly/directly to the country they claim.
For instance, St Pierre and Miquelon (and infact Europa Island and Bassas da India,which are not part of Réunion, merely governed from there, as they're uninhabited, but I'm willing to drop this claim), which is listed as a dependant area in Wikipedia.
Quote from Wikipedia concerning Dependant area
Dependent areas are territories that for some reason do not possess full political independence or sovereignty as states. There are varying degrees and forms of such a dependence. They are commonly distinguished from subnational entities in that they are not considered to be part of the motherland or mainland of the governing state, and in most cases they also represent a different order of separation.
Sorry to be picky, but I believe I have a valid claim, and I would like to help with a charter concerning these instances, as I experienced similar problems with the Isle of Man.

Im indian giving my land? WTF does that mean hotdog?

No im not giving up and because NG lacks a ORBATS that means i also lack one. Meaning that i can just make more and more tanks reappear out of no where

Yes it's god moding. But its countering the god modding from NG

Indian-giving is letting someone have something then deciding to take it back after the deal was made and the property was exchanged. Careful with the name-calling. How exactly are you able to launch a naval force of any size with most of your territory in ruins?

-Hawdawg

Indian-giving is letting someone have something then deciding to take it back after the deal was made and the property was exchanged. Careful with the name-calling. How exactly are you able to launch a naval force of any size with most of your territory in ruins?

-Hawdawg


What are you talking about? I never gave away Kursk or Bryansk

Hockey...lol...I laugh at it...

*shakes head* I don't think I'll ever get Americans :p

Anyone have an opinion on my last post?

*shakes head* I don't think I'll ever get Americans :p

Just remember these things:

(1) Canada is an annoying neighbor over a really good party
(2) It's about not aboot
(3) Without the Brits you would have been ours (twice)
(4) Baseball pwns all
(5) We have a military

What are you talking about? I never gave away Kursk or Bryansk
...neither of which are by the ocean...

Oh just go with it people.

Anyone have an opinion on my last post?
Please :p

Can we have some kind of rule on these things, as I don't think it's right that nations should have all the land belonging indirectly/directly to the country they claim.
For instance, St Pierre and Miquelon (and infact Europa Island and Bassas da India,which are not part of Réunion, merely governed from there, as they're uninhabited, but I'm willing to drop this claim), which is listed as a dependant area in Wikipedia.
Quote from Wikipedia concerning Dependant area

Sorry to be picky, but I believe I have a valid claim, and I would like to help with a charter concerning these instances, as I experienced similar problems with the Isle of Man.
Hm... could be very interesting to see the answer of this. I suppose I'm for it, with certain limitations...

Of course :)
If I manage to get some new land, then I'm going to be splitting of my central asian territories as I said before, to give it to someone new.

The Empire is hereby retiring its 900 AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopters in favor of newer, more advanced AH-94A Stalker helicopters.

@LAY: I havent posted in MB for a while only because ive been busy over the TN deal. Next time you update, dont take it off the list i will post again. Thanks!

@LAY: I havent posted in MB for a while only because ive been busy over the TN deal. Next time you update, dont take it off the list i will post again. Thanks!

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Maseru Black Lay.

I have everyone but Rome's test now, so as soon as I get that I can finalize the results and post them.

Ah yes.

Just remember these things:

(1) Canada is an annoying neighbor over a really good party
(2) It's about not aboot
(3) Without the Brits you would have been ours (twice)
(4) Baseball pwns all
(5) We have a military

(1) That's subjective, but given how I had more fun partying in Fort Myers, Florida than I did in Toronto (with a few exceptions), I'm inclined to agree.

(2) Never have I heard ONCE anyone in Canada say "aboot". You guys really need to get your facts straight.

(3) True, but without the French you wouldn't have been independent.

(4) *yawn* No wonder you Americans don't get hockey- all your sports develop slowly before your eyes, whereas hockey starts from the get-go. Hockey's simply too fast for you.

(Oh yeah, and let's not forget '92 AND '93)

(5) We have a better worldwide reputation.

I have everyone but Rome's test now, so as soon as I get that I can finalize the results and post them.

Just a reminder that I have everyone but Rome's test now, so as soon as I get that I can finalize the results and post them.

Can we have some kind of rule on these things, as I don't think it's right that nations should have all the land belonging indirectly/directly to the country they claim.
For instance, St Pierre and Miquelon (and infact Europa Island and Bassas da India,which are not part of Réunion, merely governed from there, as they're uninhabited, but I'm willing to drop this claim), which is listed as a dependant area in Wikipedia.
Quote from Wikipedia concerning Dependant area



I agree, if a nation claims say, France then it should not automatically have control over the Kerguelen islands, or something else on the other side of the world.

Looking at it realistically, a country's army goes into France and claims it, the said army has not invaded French Guyana too at the same time - Unless that has been RPed in the thread (I know this is not the case on EII, but just for the sake of arguement...)

I agree with Huahin in that nations do not automatically get these areas.

I agree, if a nation claims say, France then it should not automatically have control over the Kerguelen islands, or something else on the other side of the world.

Looking at it realistically, a country's army goes into France and claims it, the said army has not invaded French Guyana too at the same time - Unless that has been RPed in the thread (I know this is not the case on EII, but just for the sake of arguement...)

I agree with Huahin in that nations do not automatically get these areas.

I would have agreed...

Several months ago when I tried this, but if we enact this now we're going to have to look over many prior claims before this, and re-evalutate their legitimacy.

RP it would be realistic to not get all the little bits of some nation when you claim it, but RL realistically monitoring, claiming, and mapping the literal thousands of miniscule islands would take huge ammounts of time and energy.

EDIT: Rome has to finish the survey.

I would have agreed...

Several months ago when I tried this, but if we enact this now we're going to have to look over many prior claims before this, and re-evalutate their legitimacy.

RP it would be realistic to not get all the little bits of some nation when you claim it, but RL realistically monitoring, claiming, and mapping the literal thousands of miniscule islands would take huge ammounts of time and energy.

EDIT: Rome has to finish the survey.

You got my survery right?

You got my survery right?

Yep, and been graded.

Panatheaa refuses to respond to my ships that are engaging his Fleet that has appeared from nowhere

Indeed, I noticed that just there now.
Also, how did Pantheaa manage to slip a fleet (I'll repeat that 'A FLEET') out of Yemen without Spizanian forces noticing them?

I don't mind RPing the May Day thingy, but this issue has been nagging at me.

He attacks me with something like 50 Warships and now hes stopped posting after i used my special torpedoes

The same ones you used on Haw in the Pacific?
I suppose they did better against a navy like Pantheaa's?

The Empire is hereby retiring its 900 AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopters.
Huahin would like to enquire as to the availability of these helicoptors for use in the Huahinian Army Air Corps.

About the Fench making us Independent, im inclined to disagree. They came to late to make such a claim. yes they trapped corn's army but by that point the british had no hopes of winning; not only militarily but logisticly as well.

Also, RomeW, Buffalo was the better team..........by far. I have pride but know when to pick my battles. Good luck in your future.

I would have agreed...

Several months ago when I tried this, but if we enact this now we're going to have to look over many prior claims before this, and re-evalutate their legitimacy.

RP it would be realistic to not get all the little bits of some nation when you claim it, but RL realistically monitoring, claiming, and mapping the literal thousands of miniscule islands would take huge ammounts of time and energy.

EDIT: Rome has to finish the survey.

Re-Evaluating claims is unneccessary surely? If we change claims that have happened in the past then it would effectively be erasing history, if we introduce a rule, it should come into enforcement, so all claims before that don't count.

I agree about the islands thing though. Perhaps there should be a limit on the minimum size of a claim? It's ridiculous that people are claiming tiny islands, then enlarging them to form gigantic military bases. Such a law would have to include something of this nature.

Re-Evaluating claims is unneccessary surely? If we change claims that have happened in the past then it would effectively be erasing history, if we introduce a rule, it should come into enforcement, so all claims before that don't count.

I agree about the islands thing though. Perhaps there should be a limit on the minimum size of a claim? It's ridiculous that people are claiming tiny islands, then enlarging them to form gigantic military bases. Such a law would have to include something of this nature.

I totally agree about not allowing expansion of islands, it would ruin the claims listing (imagine if we could randomly change the size our countries...)

I'd call foul because I don't see how it's fair that I claimed random small islands, and did not get them then but now the law gets changed when another person claims the same islands. I'd say it would be more fair if we scratched all prior small island claims, made a list of certain islands that are eligible for claiming and maybe put them in a bin for 'grabs' but limit the number someone could claim.

And we'd definietly have to be reasonable with one another, if I claimd a small island off someone's coast (within a certain range) that he thought was under his control I'd be happy to simply give them up, and expect the same (i.e. English Channel Islands in relation to NG and HD or something similar)

Well, I'd like St Pierre and Miquelon anyway, as its near my existing territories. I prefer to have my territories roughly grouped together.

The same ones you used on Haw in the Pacific?
I suppose they did better against a navy like Pantheaa's?

I dont remember ever deploying a TORP-1 Screamer on Earth II. Infact this is the first time ive fired a torpedo directly from a ship on E2 before. Its a fifty inch weapon

Here is a short 7th grade school essay I wrote on Iran's enriched uranium development. Comments?


Around the world, many nations are attempting to develop their economies and improve their standard of living. Cheap and abundant energy is a requirement for this development, and many nations are pursuing nuclear power as a means of generating this energy.
Iran is a country currently developing enriched uranium for use in nuclear energy development. However, enriched uranium is also a key ingredient in the manufacture of some nuclear weapons. Iran has a history of violence and instability. It has openly stated its enmity of the United States, Israel, and the western world in general. In the past, Iran took several American nationals as hostages, and it is suspected of connection with anti-American terrorist groups. The people of Iran are mainly Shi’ite Muslims; whereas the majority of the population of the rest of the Middle East is Sunni Muslim, and the two sects have had a long enmity. In short, Iran is an unstable, extremist nation surrounded by enemies and potential targets for nuclear attacks.
There are three elements necessary to a crime: a motive, a means, and an opportunity. Iran definitely has the motive: it has openly declared that Israel should be wiped off the map. By developing nuclear weaponry, they will acquire the means and the opportunity for a nuclear strike.
The leadership of Iran has stated that their uranium development is for the development of nuclear power. However, there are several reasons that point out that this is a lie.
Firstly, politicians are in no way obliged to tell the truth. That much is obvious: dishonesty is rife in our own government and in virtually every government on Earth.
Secondly, Iran simply admitting that it is pursuing nuclear weapons development would cause an outrage amongst the world community and soon bring down repercussions upon Iran: such a statement would likely warrant an invasion or even a pre-emptive nuclear strike. Iran making such a statement would equate to the terrorist who publicly announces that he will be hijacking tomorrow’s flight to D.C. and giving his name, address, and other personal information.
Thirdly, there seems to be little reason that Iran would pursue nuclear power development in the first place. Ever since the current regime came to power, Iran has been a highly conservative Islamic theocracy. It has suppressed technological and social progress in other areas, so why would they pursue nuclear power? Furthermore, there are many alternatives to nuclear power. For example, coal-based power plants would be much cheaper than nuclear power plants. They could be built faster and would not cause such uproar among the international community.
In conclusion, Iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear power until there is a regime change. The Iranian government is violent, extremist, and oppressive, has many enemies, and has made statements that clearly show that it is opposed to democracy and progress and hates America, Israel, and many other nations. It is almost certain that Iran is pursuing the development of nuclear weapons, and Iran’s possession of such weaponry would pose a grave threat to the rest of the world.

Man, I remember that ol' time essay set-up, intro paragraph, argument, counter-argument- counter-couter argument, repeat, conclusion.

Better than most the crap I wrote in JHS, maybe we are improving...

You write a Hegelian, Marxist, or Nietzschean interpretation of a work of literature and you'll be even more on the right track (believe I wrote a critique of 'Where the Red-Fern Grows' in 8th grade from a Marxist perspective)

Kreynoria']Here is a short 7th grade school essay I wrote on Iran's enriched uranium development. Comments?


Needs more detail in some areas...bah what I am talking about your only in 7th grade...I am forever locked in College Essay formats.. anyways its just beause Iran is Shia and eveyone else is Sunni..that's incorrecnt, Iraq is mainly Shia(roughly 70 percent), and everyone else has roughly 10 percent of their pop is Shia. Besides not everyone in the Middle East hates Iran because their Shia...a good number of middle eastern state support..and those who hate have VERY LONG HISTORY of war with the Persians or rivals..such Iraq vs Iran during the 1980s...but they not surround by foes on all sides that incorrect,just random statement from rambling on and on Middle Eastern Dude of NS...I best STFU now..

Needs more detail in some areas...bah what I am talking about your only in 7th grade...I am forever locked in College Essay formats.. anyways its just beause Iran is Shia and eveyone else is Sunni..that's incorrecnt, Iraq is mainly Shia(roughly 70 percent), and everyone else has roughly 10 percent of their pop is Shia. Besides not everyone in the Middle East hates Iran because their Shia...a good number of middle eastern state support..and those who hate have VERY LONG HISTORY of war with the Persians or rivals..such Iraq vs Iran during the 1980s...but they not surround by foes on all sides that incorrect,just random statement from rambling on and on Middle Eastern Dude of NS...I best STFU now..

But do you agree with the basic point of no nuclear stuff for Iran?

Oh right, fact checking...

But if your teacher doesn't know it really doesn't matter. Hell, I knew more about WW1 in HS (or at least pretended to know more) than my teachers, they let me teach two days of class...

I made a presentation comparing the Kaiser with Bowser... it was awesome.

Anyway...

Kreynoria']But do you agree with the basic point of no nuclear stuff for Iran?
Sure, but fact checking is key remember that for the future.

Oh right, fact checking...

But if your teacher doesn't know it really doesn't matter. Hell, I knew more about WW1 in HS (or at least pretended to know more) than my teachers, they let me teach two days of class...

I made a presentation comparing the Kaiser with Bowser... it was awesome.

Anyway...
Aye, I knew more about history then my teacher...they alway told me to STFU..well not in those words but along those lines.

Sure, but fact checking is key remember that for the future.

I know, but our S.S. teacher is clueless and didn't even write the prompt (lol). It'll pass with an A for 'Amazing' in her book. All my history teachers are clueless.

Question for Bjorn conserning econoomic rankings:


Will the economic rating be a simple overview with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. or will there be categories? It would also be cool if a brief description (in English, not economic) of the economy of the nation was provided.

Kreynoria']I know, but our S.S. teacher is clueless and didn't even write the prompt (lol). It'll pass with an A for 'Amazing' in her book. All my history teachers are clueless.

You're on easy street man, it's a beautiful thing when you are smarter than your teachers (and many kids will be for some time yet)

At least next few generations, dumbass roomate is becoming a teacher, knows more about latest ESPN news and rappers than indigenous rocks or the 7 wonders of the ancient world (can you name them?)

Kreynoria']Question for Bjorn conserning econoomic rankings:


Will the economic rating be a simple overview with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. or will there be categories? It would also be cool if a brief description (in English, not economic) of the economy of the nation was provided.

The overall economic categories will be a simple 1st-15th or so, I could add sub categories like 'most regulated' or 'most healthy (bodily) environment' but those would not be too in depth. I'd rather make more surveys (military, political, healthiest human environment) than have sub-surveys only for econ.

I want to add descriptions, but only if everyone promises to not get pissed at me (some nations really sucked at the survey...) Remember, I did this for your guys' benefit, not mine.

You're on easy street man, it's a beautiful thing when you are smarter than your teachers (and many kids will be for some time yet)

At least next few generations, dumbass roomate is becoming a teacher, knows more about latest ESPN news and rappers than indigenous rocks or the 7 wonders of the ancient world (can you name them?)
And that my friend..the dumbass roomates of the world..shall ruin our childen minds with their mindless and colorless lessons, which don't teach the Student anything and make the Student learn on their own if they want to learn the truth of the matter...bah here I do rambling again...

And that my friend..the dumbass roomates of the world..shall ruin our childen minds with their mindless and colorless lessons, which don't teach the Student anything and make the Student learn on their own if they want to learn the truth of the matter...bah here I do rambling again...

I told you guys to buy me a shotgun. I could do a lot of good, and maybe get some effing sleep...

You're on easy street man, it's a beautiful thing when you are smarter than your teachers (and many kids will be for some time yet)

At least next few generations, dumbass roomate is becoming a teacher, knows more about latest ESPN news and rappers than indigenous rocks or the 7 wonders of the ancient world (can you name them?)

1. Great Pyramid of Egypt
2. Mausoleum of Halicarnassus
3. Temple of Artemis in Ephesus
4. Hanging Gardens of Babylon
5. Temple of Zeus
6. Lighthouse of Alexandria
7. Colossus of Rhodes

I wouldn't get too pissed on the ecomic ratings

Kreynoria']1. Great Pyramid of Egypt
2. Mausoleum of Halicarnassus
3. Temple of Artemis in Ephesus
4. Hanging Gardens of Babylon
5. Temple of Zeus
6. Lighthouse of Alexandria
7. Colossus of Rhodes

I wouldn't get too pissed on the ecomic ratings

I smell Google! :p

(jk)

I knew 5 of those.

I have to admit, Krey seems to have me beat when i was in 7th grade. At that time, and maybe still do, thought Uranium was a planet...... HiO!!!

Kreynoria']1. Great Pyramid of Egypt
2. Mausoleum of Halicarnassus
3. Temple of Artemis in Ephesus
4. Hanging Gardens of Babylon
5. Temple of Zeus
6. Lighthouse of Alexandria
7. Colossus of Rhodes

I wouldn't get too pissed on the economic ratings

Very good,

You know what's bizarre? I learned this not from school, but from the Civilization PC game series. I swear I've learned more from constantly playing VG than my continued presence in school and now university.

Yeah, people generally forget the Mausoleum of Maussollos and either the Temple of Artemis or Zeus (forget there's two)

My kids have to know this tidbit of information before they are allowed free-time on the internet at the B&G Club camp.

Huahin would like to enquire as to the availability of these helicoptors for use in the Huahinian Army Air Corps.

We can make 300 of these available for sale for a unit price of $35M each. They were bought for $56.25M each.

Bjornoya, please have some patience. I'm also waiting on a reply to a telegram I sent to you a couple of weeks ago.

About the Fench making us Independent, im inclined to disagree. They came to late to make such a claim. yes they trapped corn's army but by that point the british had no hopes of winning; not only militarily but logisticly as well.

Also, RomeW, Buffalo was the better team..........by far. I have pride but know when to pick my battles. Good luck in your future.

The Americans had their first major success at Saratoga in October of 1777, then the French came in for 1778, with Spain and the Netherlands joining in soon afterward. The Americans *might* have eventually defeated Britain since the British couldn't control the countryside, but it would have taken them a lot longer and it wasn't until the British lost at Chesapeake Bay- against a coalition that included the French- that the War of Independence was really over.

A Philly fan eh? You know, I think the Flyers deserved better than what they got- Peter Forsberg, Simon Gagne, Mike Knuble et all were a fine bunch and deserved a better fate. I'll be in tough though against Ottawa- there's no way I can stop Wade Redden, Daniel Alfredsson, Jason Spezza, Martin Havlat, Mike Fisher, Dany Heatley, etc. Just too much.

I have everyone else's, and it takes 15 minutes tops to fill out. I've been working my butt off on this and want to get it over before finals.

As for PM I'm not sure which one you are reffering to, I believe I replied with ideas to all of them if they were in regards to Manium. I'm waiting for you and Sharina at the moment in the RP.

Bjornoya, please have some patience. I'm also waiting on a reply to a telegram I sent to you a couple of weeks ago.



The Americans had their first major success at Saratoga in October of 1777, then the French came in for 1778, with Spain and the Netherlands joining in soon afterward. The Americans *might* have eventually defeated Britain since the British couldn't control the countryside, but it would have taken them a lot longer and it wasn't until the British lost at Chesapeake Bay- against a coalition that included the French- that the War of Independence was really over.

A Philly fan eh? You know, I think the Flyers deserved better than what they got- Peter Forsberg, Simon Gagne, Mike Knuble et all were a fine bunch and deserved a better fate. I'll be in tough though against Ottawa- there's no way I can stop Wade Redden, Daniel Alfredsson, Jason Spezza, Martin Havlat, Mike Fisher, Dany Heatley, etc. Just too much.

The French definitely did help us and they weren't weak and pathetic back then either. They were manly men.

I have everyone else's, and it takes 15 minutes tops to fill out. I've been working my butt off on this and want to get it over before finals.

As for PM I'm not sure which one you are reffering to, I believe I replied with ideas to all of them if they were in regards to Manium. I'm waiting for you and Sharina at the moment in the RP.

My main problem has been trying to adjust my stats to Earth II without it looking like godmodding. I realize I have less work than I anticipated so I should be able to get it done quickly- I apologize for the holdup. However, I would like to see that reminder removed from your signature- I think it's embarassing to me.

I wrote another TG regarding materia. I forget the other contents but I do know I asked a question that I wanted a response to.

The three questions regarding NS stats make for a small fraction of the total, the rest must be done wo/calculators. Put those or your custom stats in, frankly all NS stats are 'god-mods' so I don't care.

Just please get it done by tonight or tommorow latest. I require efficiency or I soon lose interest (like most people), and this is a project I would like to get done as I have put a lot of work into it.

Since it seems to be the fashionable thing to do, and since its been forever since I've been able to mess with my armed forces:

Squornshelous is officially decomissioning the following naval vessels:

4x Improved Iowa class BBG
10x Improved Prinz Eugen class CA
32x Xaxis class SSK
56x Sturgeon class SSN
250x Oliver Hazard Perry class FF
50x Lister class DD
80x Suntiger class DD

any serious offer concerning these vessels will be entertained.

These aging ships are being mothballed to free up money for a brand new attack submarine in the works. More news on that to come at a later date.

The Improved battleships and cruisers are almost exactly like the two Iowa's still in the USN reserve fleet. Constantly updated with new electronic equipment and outfitted with tomahawk and exocet missiles.
linkage for specs on the Squornshelan built subs and destroyers:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6834975#post6834975

Bjornoya, can you explain to me what phosphoroxyamines are? I can't find the information anywhere.

You're not allowed to ask me or others any questions regarding the survey, think about it and give me whatever answer you think is best. Think from the POV of one of your government officials.

You're not allowed to ask me or others any questions regarding the survey, think about it and give me whatever answer you think is best. Think from the POV of one of your government officials.

I'm not asking you to answer the question- I'm asking you to clarify part of the question so that I can answer it. It's the same kind of question I can ask on an exam, and this is no different. I don't know what a phosphoroxyamine is and I can't answer that question in the survey until I know, as how am I supposed to know if I'd like it or not like it without knowing what it does? For all I know you've invented something that no one can find information on and that is unfair, since our surveys could be dishonest with faulty information. If you want to telegram me what a phosphoroxyamine is or where I can find information on what a phosphoroxyamine is, fine. I really want an answer- I won't be handing in my survey without one.

We can make 300 of these available for sale for a unit price of $35M each. They were bought for $56.25M each.
OOC: Then they must have costed way too much for you. According to Colonel Richard Harris, USAF, currently assigned to the Office of Defense Cooperation (ODC) at the American Embassy in Oslo, Norway, the Joint Strike Fighter will cost roughly $47 million per aircraft.

This was made official when COL Harris answered questions on the web at one of Norways biggest newspapers. The reason why he answered is because Norway is going to replace its F-16As with new aircraft, and it's currently between the F-35A JSF or the Eurofighter Typhoon.

The JSF will cost about $47M per airplane and is almost 2 1/2 times cheaper than the Eurofighter. You are getting a better plane for a better price.
Colonel Harris

OOC: Then they must have costed way too much for you. According to Colonel Richard Harris, USAF, currently assigned to the Office of Defense Cooperation (ODC) at the American Embassy in Oslo, Norway, the Joint Strike Fighter will cost roughly $47 million per aircraft.

This was made official when COL Harris answered questions on the web at one of Norways biggest newspapers. The reason why he answered is because Norway is going to replace its F-16As with new aircraft, and it's currently between the F-35A JSF or the Eurofighter Typhoon.


???

AH-64D Apache Longbow...

Teh Ninjas is officially 21 days inactive.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480478

is my claiming thread for his Cuban land and the Cayman Islands

I am also claiming the Madeira Islands, which will be in this thread as well.

I claim all his African Lands and his Saudi Lands.

(His African Lands are the following:
Central African Republic
Senegal
Uganda
Djibouti
Sudan (parts)
DRC (parts)
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gambia
Madagascar)

TATO has already begun operations in most of these areas. The African lands will be split between TATO members at a later date. For now I'm making the claims.

Just don't forget the thread or are you guys continuing it in the Civil War one?

We're continuing it in the Civil War one, check it out, its pretty good so far. Going to RP some awesome battles, and some good SOF action.

I will make my own RP at a later date for the Saudi Arabia lands- I can't really do it for a while as I am RPing with Pantheaa and with TATO forces and I am preparing for University exams at the same time. Not much extra time at the moment.

Neuvo Rica claims Madeira, RP is coming - most if not this evening then tomorrow. This time I mean it, I even wrote a reminder on my hand.


-------Scratch that. Lay got there first----------

Well, I'd like St Pierre and Miquelon anyway,
Any news?

I'm getting another post into Killswitch. It's going to be long and I am like 50% done writing it. I have to go get my car though and I have to pick up my grandmother from the dentist soon so please have some patience. Neuvo, perhaps we can work something out for Madeira. If you have AIM TG me your screen-name or just IM TheUnforgiven57.

Any news?

Since NG owns France and he has a pretty comprehensive list on what he has, if he doesn't have it included it is yours. Otherwise if it is on his list because it is a dependency then I cannot do anything.

Huahin, do you want those helicopters?

I'm not asking you to answer the question- I'm asking you to clarify part of the question so that I can answer it. It's the same kind of question I can ask on an exam, and this is no different. I don't know what a phosphoroxyamine is and I can't answer that question in the survey until I know, as how am I supposed to know if I'd like it or not like it without knowing what it does? For all I know you've invented something that no one can find information on and that is unfair, since our surveys could be dishonest with faulty information. If you want to telegram me what a phosphoroxyamine is or where I can find information on what a phosphoroxyamine is, fine. I really want an answer- I won't be handing in my survey without one.

Check TG's there is a very good reason why I do not allow questions, if people share information on the subject the survey will be scewed as it is no longer their government's position, but what they think the smartest 'governments' would have answered. Thankfully tou're the last one so it doesn't matter too much.

a phosphoroxyamine is? Well I have no clue. I think he spelled it wrong but Google and Wikipedia wouldn't correct it so I have NFC what that is. Maybe it's a really big word for "the"?

Huahin, do you want those helicopters?

New Genetican could use some. How much you asking?

a phosphoroxyamine is? Well I have no clue. I think he spelled it wrong but Google and Wikipedia wouldn't correct it so I have NFC what that is. Maybe it's a really big word for "the"?

Shut-Up Lay...

New Genetican could use some. How much you asking?

I was offering Huahin 300 @ 35M each. If it is too expensive for him I will offer it to you at the same price.

Shut-Up Lay...

Seriously. What is that stuff? TG me, please. You already have my survey.

Seriously. What is that stuff? TG me, please. You already have my survey.

Sent, and not a word Lay...

Also in TN claims, Somolia is or will be under TATO control.

Don't worry buddy, I already claimed all of TN's African land for us. No one can touch it.

I claim all his African Lands and his Saudi Lands.

(His African Lands are the following:
Central African Republic
Senegal
Uganda
Djibouti
Sudan (parts)
DRC (parts)
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gambia
Madagascar)

TATO has already begun operations in most of these areas. The African lands will be split between TATO members at a later date. For now I'm making the claims.

Also in TN claims, Somolia is or will be under TATO control.

Alright, whenever the RP is finished, post who gets what, and have them all approve so that we can get that all organized. So with that and my RP is there anything left? Perhaps not. I shall check. Nope.

Unless someone contests the claim, is there a thread up for the Saudi Areas? I will move against them from Oman and Socotra, i wont stand a chance, but i might gain a few miles of desert

Actually I claimed them.

And yeah, Lay, we've sort of decided who gets what on the TATO boards, but once all is finished we'll decide finally and post it up here.

But i can contest the claim cant I?

Yes you can, as happened within the whole D12 ones of Andre and Lieber.

But i can contest the claim cant I?

It would probably be in your nation's best intrests to not do that...

I'm getting another post into Killswitch. It's going to be long and I am like 50% done writing it. I have to go get my car though and I have to pick up my grandmother from the dentist soon so please have some patience. Neuvo, perhaps we can work something out for Madeira. If you have AIM TG me your screen-name or just IM TheUnforgiven57.

Sorry, my norton antivirus seems to have a problem with instant messengers. We could talk by TG, it takes ages, but it's the only way I can do it:(

Sorry, my norton antivirus seems to have a problem with instant messengers. We could talk by TG, it takes ages, but it's the only way I can do it:(

We could try e-mail?

My link is in my signature. That's a good Norton then, really protecting you, but sucky.

Spiz, you sure you want to contest my claim? I have freinds in the Middle East. I found some semblence of respect for you after you attacked Pantheaa, don't throw it away.

Doooooo it!

Btw I have a new shotgun (been out for some time)

M76 Tactical Shotgun

The M76 Tactical Shotgun is a new, lightweight, highly defensive shotgun manufactured by the LDC. It is a unique design meant to take into accoun the flaws of the M53 Shotgun and the M55 Automatic Shotgun, of which there were few. The M76 Tactical Shotgun offers an 18.00 inch barrel like the M53 and is only available in 12 gauge. It is made to fire both buckshot and high-powered slugs with extreme effectiveness. This seven-round magazine shotgun offers one round more than the M53 but one less than the M55; however, its accuracy is far greater than both, especially at longer ranges. Equipped with a Picatinny Rail system, the shotgun can mount sights, flashlights, lasers, and a whole host of other equipment. One of the greater features is a recoil reduction system, which is placed in the interior of the stock. The baffled tube holds 14 oz. of mercury, which raises the deltaT that the shot's impulse gets spread out over, thus lowering felt recoil. This means more accuracy and much quicker shots, especially in combat situations. Unlike the M53 and M55, the M76 has a far better corrosion resistance system and rated for marine environments for up to six weeks longer than both the M53 and M55. It is also far cheaper than either the M53 and M55 and rated for up to 25,000 rounds.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m76.jpg

Status: In-service [A1]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 40.35"
Barrel Length: 18.00"
Weight: 6.75 lb.
Magazine: 7 rounds
Rate of Fire: 4 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 50 meters [shot]; 125 meters [slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 420 meters per second [shot]; 600 meters per second [slug]
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight, scope
Cost: $300
Service Life: 25,000 rounds

Spiz, you sure you want to contest my claim? I have freinds in the Middle East. I found some semblence of respect for you after you attacked Pantheaa, don't throw it away.
Oh okay, il be screwed if i contest it, what about me simply buying it from you?

I claim all his African Lands and his Saudi Lands.

(His African Lands are the following:
Central African Republic
Senegal
Uganda
Djibouti
Sudan (parts)
DRC (parts)
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gambia
Madagascar)

TATO has already begun operations in most of these areas. The African lands will be split between TATO members at a later date. For now I'm making the claims.

I would really appreciate Madagascar and will make offers to TATO for it.

With the FRAG-12 ammunition that shotgun can get between 200 and 260 meters :).

Kreynoria']I would really appreciate Madagascar and will make offers to TATO for it.

I won't speak for all of TATO, but I highly doubt you will get the island. At the moment it is one of the territories USB will be acquiring, so you should talk with him but chances are slim.

Did RomeW get his survey in? I just can't wait to see the results!!!

Well the helicoptors aren't too expensive for me, but after careful evaluation, we have decided against purchasing these as our advanced trainer Helicoptors.

I'd like to purchase 100,000 Shotguns for our police.

Doooooo it!

Btw I have a new shotgun (been out for some time)

M76 Tactical Shotgun

The M76 Tactical Shotgun is a new, lightweight, highly defensive shotgun manufactured by the LDC. It is a unique design meant to take into accoun the flaws of the M53 Shotgun and the M55 Automatic Shotgun, of which there were few. The M76 Tactical Shotgun offers an 18.00 inch barrel like the M53 and is only available in 12 gauge. It is made to fire both buckshot and high-powered slugs with extreme effectiveness. This seven-round magazine shotgun offers one round more than the M53 but one less than the M55; however, its accuracy is far greater than both, especially at longer ranges. Equipped with a Picatinny Rail system, the shotgun can mount sights, flashlights, lasers, and a whole host of other equipment. One of the greater features is a recoil reduction system, which is placed in the interior of the stock. The baffled tube holds 14 oz. of mercury, which raises the deltaT that the shot's impulse gets spread out over, thus lowering felt recoil. This means more accuracy and much quicker shots, especially in combat situations. Unlike the M53 and M55, the M76 has a far better corrosion resistance system and rated for marine environments for up to six weeks longer than both the M53 and M55. It is also far cheaper than either the M53 and M55 and rated for up to 25,000 rounds.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m76.jpg

Status: In-service [A1]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 40.35"
Barrel Length: 18.00"
Weight: 6.75 lb.
Magazine: 7 rounds
Rate of Fire: 4 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 50 meters [shot]; 125 meters [slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 420 meters per second [shot]; 600 meters per second [slug]
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight, scope
Cost: $300
Service Life: 25,000 rounds

The Realm wishes to aquire some 700,000 of these shotguns for use in the Royal Cottish Regular Army, Royal Cottish Territorial Army, Royal Cottish Navy, Royal Cottish Marine Corps and the National Police Force. The cost of $270,000,000 shall be wired to the normal LDC account in Den Norske Bank upon confirmation of this order. Thank you in advance.

If you wish to order any M76 Shotguns, please telegram me.

Kreynoria']Did RomeW get his survey in? I just can't wait to see the results!!!

No...

Me = :( + :mad: + :confused:

Since NG owns France and he has a pretty comprehensive list on what he has, if he doesn't have it included it is yours. Otherwise if it is on his list because it is a dependency then I cannot do anything.
Its not on the list. Wait there, you are referring to the list on the first page, right?

Its not on the list. Wait there, you are referring to the list on the first page, right?

He'll TG you about it.

Rome missed the deadline, lets go!!!!!!! :headbang:

I set the deadline when I said 'tomorrow at the latest' last night, so if he doesn't send it to me by tonight it will be up tomorrow.

..dun..dun..dun..

Alright I here by give Agin-Buryat Okrug, Amur Oblast,Buryat Republic, Chita Oblast,Tuva Republic, Yevrey Oblast to Doomingsland

Just posting to confirm with OK said.

I'll probably update later tonight when I get back to my apartment.

Doomingsland, added you.

*waves at Doomingsland*

Hello new neighbor.

Welcome Doomingsland, enjoy your stay.


-Hawdawg

I sent it in.

Graded, and results finalized... will put short answer key up tommorow, possible sources of error so if you got a bad grade you can just say the research was flawed, along with the comprehensive results including points and rough overview/summarization of each nation's economic policies.

All of you are going to be very pissed off at me... I can tell...

Graded, and results finalized... will put short answer key up tommorow, possible sources of error so if you got a bad grade you can just say the research was flawed, along with the comprehensive results including points and rough overview/summarization of each nation's economic policies.

All of you are going to be very pissed off at me... I can tell...

So you got my survey okay then? Anyway, I'll be using it for propaganda purposes...:D

Graded, and results finalized... will put short answer key up tommorow, possible sources of error so if you got a bad grade you can just say the research was flawed, along with the comprehensive results including points and rough overview/summarization of each nation's economic policies.

All of you are going to be very pissed off at me... I can tell...

Nah. Why would we be pissed?

:: pets shiny, armed, nuclear warhead ::

Nah. Why would we be pissed?

:: pets shiny, armed, nuclear warhead ::

I think I'm going to post the research as a collective project done by economical scientists from around the world who based their project from Bjornoyan Channel Islands CA....

And the scientists all look like this:

http://www.marypages.com/mother5.jpg

or this:

http://www.helena-sandberg.com/blog/uploaded_images/dr.strangelove-763806.jpg

(How could you possibly get mad at those faces?)

Or maybe I'll have the research documented and published online so it can't be traced.

Oh yeah, I'll give you guys one guess as to who is currently ranked #1 :rolleyes:

....you?

Spiz, I am talking to a couple of people about the Saudi Land, if I can't get anything good I'll offer them to you. I'll TG you when I know whats happening.

Lay, nice shotgun.

Kreynoria, USB has already begun an invasion of Madagascar.

Doomingsland, a very hearty welcome to you. I believe we'll be sharing a border?

Oh yeah, I'll give you guys one guess as to who is currently ranked #1 :rolleyes:

Dr. Evil?

Oh yeah, I'll give you guys one guess as to who is currently ranked #1 :rolleyes:

Layarteb?... You Suckup Bjorn:D

Its me, damm your eyes!

*Watches as everyone screams, 'No, it's me!' and etc.*

So pisssed...

Drum Roll?

So pisssed...


Aaagggh! You sick blue bastard!!! We're all dying from the ****ing suspense!! Damn you! Just tell!!!! I guess this is why we are all pissed.


Is it by any chance me???

Its Dr. Strangelove!

I hereby hand over my claims for Teh Ninjas' Saudi Arabian lands to Ottoman Khaif in return for OK's Greecian lands.

I hereby hand over my claims for Teh Ninjas' Saudi Arabian lands to Ottoman Khaif in return for OK's Greecian lands.
Here here, I here by confirm this deal.

we could have a power comparison chart to measure the Influence of nations in Earth II to see how they compare. this could be measured from their population and economic statistics in nation states and how much Influence they have in EarthII..

what do yall reckon??? ( it would have to be updated pretty regulary though.. so that may be a problem...) :)

On page 365. This is a pretty old idea. Its fun to just browse a few hundred pages back and look back on old posts.

Kreynoria']Aaagggh! You sick blue bastard!!! We're all dying from the ****ing suspense!! Damn you! Just tell!!!! I guess this is why we are all pissed.


Is it by any chance me???

Incredibly pissed.....








(working on description of #3 nation at the moment... should be up in a few hours)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10903073#post10903073

the war games between Doom and Euraisa

Incredibly pissed.....



(working on description of #3 nation at the moment... should be up in a few hours)


Grrrrrrr

The Lang Report (Survey Results) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481177)

Really, really pissed off.....

Ok this isn't the a-hole me so relax. But i think that the survey was missing some important questions according to a leading political scientist in the war torn Republic of Pantheaa

Like

Is your nation at war or frequently goes to war?

Why is this important? Because war has a strain on the economy. The US for example spends billions a month on just the Iraq war(not including Afganstan ops)

And

Does your nation suffer from frequent natural disaters (typhoons, earthquakes, hurricanes)? Maybe the how close you live to the equater question dealt with this.

Why is this important? Because much like the previous question. The government has to fork out money for protection (Protection after all is a pubic services, not private). And a nation that gets hit a lot by natural disaters like Kreynoria would suffer in the coffers

These two questions would probably only have a small impact on the budget. But still the small amount might be the difference

Maybe a question about population as well, like do you use child labor? What is the percent of workers under 16?

BTW it would of be hella funny if my nation took that survey. Insurgents don't collect tax. I would get all "-" in every question and stake my claim as the most poorest nation on E2. ;)

He doth have a point. Perhaps in future projects?

Like I said I missed literally hundreds of aspects; I listed several in 'Sources of Error' on second post.

The equator question took in a few aspects; generally regions around the equator are more populated, and if a fresh water source is near can produce large ammounts of food.
Equator means better climate generally as well, the high price of living in California is due to nothing but the bright sun and beaches.

Minimum wage, waste disposal, adherance to law, more in-depth descriptions of any re-distributions of capital... all of these could have been in more depth on the survey, but perhaps my teacherly instincts kicked in; the more questions I ask the more work I have to do...

I would like to do another project in the future, but this time either for military or 'best quality of life.' (think I'd be more qualified for the 'life' one) Maybe next time I do a survey I can have people TG me sample questions so I don't miss some important aspects.

Like I said I missed literally hundreds of aspects; I listed several in 'Sources of Error' on second.

The equator question took in a few aspects; generally regions around the equator are more populated, and if a fresh water source is near can produce large ammounts of food.
Equator means better climate generally as well, the high price of living in California is due to nothing but the bright sun and beaches.

Minimum wage, waste disposal, adherance to law, more in-depth descriptions of any re-distributions of capital... all of these could have been in more depth on the survey, but perhaps my teacherly instincts kicked in; the more questions I ask the more work I have to do...

War = sometimes to often
Natural Disasters = Come on I own the whole Caribbean and NE USA...Disasters are like nothing to us!

Historic day in pantheaa...MAY 5TH!

The allies win, they get what they want...will almost. Kursk is mine suckers because of NG's little act of Genocide. And since the Panthean government is fallen and replaced, the justifaction for war is no longer there.
All should visit...

Panthean becomes a Confederacy..discuss war and future (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10905494#post10905494)

And Panthea is now a confederacy now as you will read, so no more of the but Pantheaa doesn't have a government anymore saying

Pantheaa are you going to continue RPing the Portugal invasion as the fleet that not under the new governments control? I would hate to have put some many ships to sea all for naught.

-Hawdawg

Historic day in pantheaa...MAY 5TH!

The allies win, they get what they want...will almost. Kursk is mine suckers because of NG's little act of Genocide. And since the Panthean government is fallen and replaced, the justifaction for war is no longer there.
All should visit...

Panthean becomes a Confederacy..discuss war and future (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10905494#post10905494)

And Panthea is now a confederacy now as you will read, so no more of the but Pantheaa doesn't have a government anymore saying

Post a list here of who gets what so they can all confirm and then I'll update the list.

The Lang Report (Survey Results) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481177)

Really, really pissed off.....

What ever happened to Carthage? While you idiots have been around, squandering your resources on wars and conflicts, I've sat in my hyper-capitalist stronghold, making profits off of all of your pain and suffering. I also have a helluva lotta resources (including oil), as well as control over the major trade routes of the Mediterranean.

What ever happened to Carthage? While you idiots have been around, squandering your resources on wars and conflicts, I've sat in my hyper-capitalist stronghold, making profits off of all of your pain and suffering. I also have a helluva lotta resources (including oil), as well as control over the major trade routes of the Mediterranean.
Yeah yeah, I am uber Carthage...I pwn all...give me a break..

Yeah, TLS, you do have loads of all. Too bad no one wants to buy it off you. TATO is the controller of oil in Africa and one of the worlds largest exporters. Your one nation. No hard feelings though, just business.

And as for controlling the Med trade routes? Oh no, I think NG controls them, or at least the other half of the trade routes.

I really need to think of something to do...

I wish i could do some climatogical engineering by creating artificial lakes the Size of Lake Erie, problem is i dont control any suitable areas

What ever happened to Carthage? While you idiots have been around, squandering your resources on wars and conflicts, I've sat in my hyper-capitalist stronghold, making profits off of all of your pain and suffering. I also have a helluva lotta resources (including oil), as well as control over the major trade routes of the Mediterranean.

and you didn't take the survey...

We just want something to do; even if it is helping to build superlakes.

Create an alliance large enough to threaten TOA. That's always good for a laugh...

Create an alliance large enough to threaten TOA. That's always good for a laugh...
There's always room for a contender...

I really need to think of something to do...
Hey, Chron, wanna plan something? Just like the good ole' days? :)

Now theres an Idea :D

Hey, Doom, i need to order some ordanance from you

Yeah, TLS, you do have loads of all. Too bad no one wants to buy it off you. TATO is the controller of oil in Africa and one of the worlds largest exporters. Your one nation. No hard feelings though, just business.

And as for controlling the Med trade routes? Oh no, I think NG controls them, or at least the other half of the trade routes.

I control the entire central Mediterranean. No one gets from one side to the other. I ALSO control all of Africas northern ports, as well as the OTHER side of Gibraltar.

It seems the world has forgotten the might of Carthage. At one time people actually gave a damn about what I thought. Time to bring that time back. *rolls up sleves* It's time to kick some ass.

I control the entire central Mediterranean. No one gets from one side to the other. I ALSO control all of Africas northern ports, as well as the OTHER side of Gibraltar.

It seems the world has forgotten the might of Carthage. At one time people actually gave a damn about what I thought. Time to bring that time back. *rolls up sleves* It's time to kick some ass.

You mean you're going to actually do something? I'd watch yourself, E2 has changed in your absence. It's much better to make allies now than enemies.

And yeah, right now central and southern Africa is where its at.

You mean you're going to actually do something? I'd watch yourself, E2 has changed in your absence. It's much better to make allies now than enemies.

And yeah, right now central and southern Africa is where its at.

I haven't been absent. Just watching, and binding my time. Building up my resources.

And planning.

Hmm... Kursk not mine... I didn't just waste a bunch of resources for nothing. I want something for my efforts.

Huahin unveils international penal colony!
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The Isle of Man has now officially been opened as a penal colony for Huahin. Other nations may send their prisoners to this prison for a small fee.

The island itself is very different from what it was before, after the detonation of an extremely large ammunition dump. It is now almost entirely devoid of life, and covered in a thick dust.

Contact Huahin for more information.

My government has been overthrown and replaced with a new one (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10909000&posted=1#post10909000).

Basically, the Princes tried to dabble in genetic engineering (it isn't really advanced, either. It's technology we'll readily have in about 10 years, methinks). Since it was untested and such, and the princes were a bit over-zealous and believed they had created the perfect slaves, they messed up, the slaves revolted, and enslaved them. No longer is Carthage satisfied with sitting around, doing nothing. Carthage (now Neo-Babylon, if Lay can change my name for me) is intent on becoming a force to be reckoned with.

So...

Anyone up for anything?

If you werent massively bigger than i am i would be up for a war, but meh

If war is what you wish for...
...in other news, Huahin's latest techology:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10909177#post10909177

Hmm... Kursk not mine... I didn't just waste a bunch of resources for nothing. I want something for my efforts.


And he didn't just waste a whole bunch of resources defending it. Reparations maybe? Annual tribute? Trading rights? Protectorate? Some kind of compromise?

Hence why everyone has to agree on the land trades before they are done. God I'm good!

Hey, Doom, i need to order some ordanance from you
TG me the order.

Huahin unveils international penal colony!
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The Isle of Man has now officially been opened as a penal colony for Huahin. Other nations may send their prisoners to this prison for a small fee.

The island itself is very different from what it was before, after the detonation of an extremely large ammunition dump. It is now almost entirely devoid of life, and covered in a thick dust.

Contact Huahin for more information.


Up until now Kreynoria has been satisfied with castrating its rapists. However, we would like to add to their punishment by sentencing them to life on the Isle of Man.

OOC: I am interested in signing up, but there seems to be a shortage of land, so it was suggested that I request some gifts. I am not picky on where I go, I would just like to play... Anyone willing?

Hmm... Kursk not mine... I didn't just waste a bunch of resources for nothing. I want something for my efforts.

Would you like Bryansk then?

OOC: I am interested in signing up, but there seems to be a shortage of land, so it was suggested that I request some gifts. I am not picky on where I go, I would just like to play... Anyone willing?
I could sell you Primorsk...

North Germania-

Bryansk Oblast (if agreed)

Spinzania-

Yemen

Huahin-
post 12704 on page 847 (minus Kalmkyia)

Voronezh oblast
Orenberg oblast
Samara oblast
Penza oblast

Cotland-

Kalmkyia Oblast
Bouvet Island(full control)

United States of Brink-
post 12767 on page 852

Chuvashia Republic,
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Mordvinia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Tatar Republic
Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Belgorod Oblast
Chuvashia Republic
Mari El Republic (forget this one in the original post)

And that leaves me with Kursk, Lipetsk and Orel oblast i believe, and the fact that im a spec on the Russian map now. Im no threat to anyone now

Carthage Announces Collectivization Plan and the Switch to a Mixed Economy

Neo-Babylon, Carthage

In an expected move, the Politburo of Carthage has declared that a target of 95% of all farms shall be collectivized. Realising the failure of most collectivization plans, the Politburo has decided to base their collectivization after the 1957 Agrarian Theses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivisation_in_Hungary#1957_Agrarian_Theses). These measures aren't as radical as other collectivization plans, and seeing how the farmers of Carthage were formerly enslaved by the Princes, they will be much more willing to work now.

The Politburo also announced the switch to "Socialism with Carthaginian characteristics", a mixed economy, stating that the previous free-market system was horrible for the people, while a command economy would be devastating for the economy. Citing examples of mixed economies with incredibly high growth rates (OOC: China, anyone?), the Politburo declared that this would be the most beneficial way for Carthage to advance. Industries that have been taken over by the state have been:


Weapons Manufacturing
Oil
Natural Gas
Coal
Energy Supply
Water
Ethanol
Military Vehicles Manufacturing


This is a great step for Carthage. Is it forward or backwards? No one knows. All that is certain is that Carthage is no longer the way it used to be, and it is looking to re-assert its place as a world power.

OOC: I am interested in signing up, but there seems to be a shortage of land, so it was suggested that I request some gifts. I am not picky on where I go, I would just like to play... Anyone willing?
How about Armenia and Georgia, on the condition that you post a lot, and join an alliance with me.

Pantheaa:
Deal confirmed.
Any Pantheaans wishing to remain in Pantheaan territories will be offered free transport for them, and a good proportion of their belongings.

Confirming the Transfer of Yemen, just to make sure i get it

And is the Africa map up to date?
I would like to make a deal with whoever controls Mauretania, Mali and Algeria about a little engineering project i have worked out.

Spiz, make sure you let TATO members know your plans for that engineering project, even if we don't control the land.

As for Carthage, collectivization? Where have I heard of that before? OH YES, Uncle Joe tried it, created a famine that killed about 18 Million people and destroyed Russian Agriculture, and then that fat turnip Mao tried it to, killed 38 Million people in the worst famine/mass homicide the world has ever seen. I guess you'll want something similar?

How about Armenia and Georgia, on the condition that you post a lot, and join an alliance with me.

Sounds good to me, since I don't know what Primorsk is Cotland?

Ok, deal confirmed.

Sounds good to me, since I don't know what Primorsk is Cotland?
Russian Pacific coast. Near Japan and the Koreas.

Mind if purchase that land?

Russian Pacific coast. Near Japan and the Koreas.
I'd like to make an offer for that land, too, actualy, seeing as I need ports...

Doomingsland, are you in any alliance at the moment?

Pantheaa, I want more than just one Oblast as well as the Eastern half of Yemen, as I did put ground troops there.

Any news on St Pierre + Miquelon?

Pantheaa, I want more than just one Oblast as well as the Eastern half of Yemen, as I did put ground troops there.

So your stealing my gains then?

I'm sure Pantheaa would have held you off if he wanted to.

Doomingsland, are you in any alliance at the moment?
Not yet.

Fancy being in any?

I'd like to make an offer for that land, too, actualy, seeing as I need ports...
Since there are more than one person who wants it, I'll go back to a good old tradition of mine: The one who offers the most gets it. You have until 20:00 CET to do the bidding, because then I will decide which one gets it. Good luck to everyone involved!

The F-41 Defender is going to seriously shake the foundations of air combat here.

:: GASP!!! ::

:: Watches as everyone scrambles to find out what the F-41 Defender is ::

The F-41: Link (http://hivemodern.com/products/?view=sub_product&sid=300)

DAMN!!! Gotta get my military ready for if and when those mechanical monstrosities show up.

(Did you know pages within Invisionfree forums don't show up on Google searches? Least the Defender didn't...)

Spizania: I'm not stealing your gains, but it's only fair I get part of Yemen since I did help you out with my Reichsmarine and I did send ground troops into Yemen.

Huahin: Sure, he could've held me off for a little while.

Pacifinesia's Offensive (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10915987#post10915987)

Operation Venom commencing. Attention Spizania and Pacifinesia.

The F-41 Defender is going to seriously shake the foundations of air combat here.

:: GASP!!! ::

:: Watches as everyone scrambles to find out what the F-41 Defender is ::

Let me guess: it's a fighter that defends stuff. ::GASP!!!:: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Spiz, make sure you let TATO members know your plans for that engineering project, even if we don't control the land.

As for Carthage, collectivization? Where have I heard of that before? OH YES, Uncle Joe tried it, created a famine that killed about 18 Million people and destroyed Russian Agriculture, and then that fat turnip Mao tried it to, killed 38 Million people in the worst famine/mass homicide the world has ever seen. I guess you'll want something similar?

Hey, they had collectivization in Hungary, and that turned out really well. Agricultural production increased.

Also, in those situations, the people weren't willing. Now they are, since they finally have power, instead of being slaves to the Princes.

The F-41: Link (http://hivemodern.com/products/?view=sub_product&sid=300)

DAMN!!! Gotta get my military ready for if and when those mechanical monstrosities show up.

(Did you know pages within Invisionfree forums don't show up on Google searches? Least the Defender didn't...)


http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1119/images/16-dr%20evil.jpg

http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1119/images/16-dr%20evil.jpg

"Tecta is the only authorized and licensed manufacturer of the F41, the weaving and Caning is pure handwork - an ancient craft of humankind. Tecta is well known for producing fully authorized and licensed designs of the Bauhaus and Marcel Breuer."

Dear God, what is he up too now. Bauhaus and Marcel Breuer... what can possible stand against this work of art?

In all honesty, the wickedness I am planning would make you all cringe.

Since there are more than one person who wants it, I'll go back to a good old tradition of mine: The one who offers the most gets it. You have until 20:00 CET to do the bidding, because then I will decide which one gets it. Good luck to everyone involved!
I'll start the bidding at 50 billion, I guess.

Spizania: I'm not stealing your gains, but it's only fair I get part of Yemen since I did help you out with my Reichsmarine and I did send ground troops into Yemen.

Huahin: Sure, he could've held me off for a little while.

Sure you can have parts of Yemen.

Im not getting into a possiable conflict between Spizania and NG though so decide what land you want to divy

Also im started a free trade agreement with USB. Im moving some of the Cossack companies to USB so they can build surveillence equipment and other security technolgies like a Matrix system that uses computer software that matches commierical and public records of a person with those of a government database. Kind of like a minority report. Should help USB law enforcement track down criminals and terrorist.
Unlikewise, Cossack is started to invest in the GPS business.

I also might start a business that makes body armor which will also be outsources to USB.

Official Squornshelan Government Announcement

We are proud to announce that after brief and discreet negotiations, The Imperium of Squornshelous has joined The Pacifinesian Alliance. We have done this in hopes of creating a more balanced distribution of power throughout the various alliances and treaties of Earth II.


ooc: Pacifinesia may not be up to the level of the TOA just yet but this should make Earth II international politics a bit more interesting. :D

ooc: Pacifinesia may not be up to the level of the TOA just yet but this should make Earth II international politics a bit more interesting. :D

Heh. Now I'm the buffer state in North America. Not sure what to make of that.

Carthage Announces Collectivization Plan and the Switch to a Mixed Economy
*snip*

Congratulations on moving away from out-and-out capitalism; the United Eastasian Republic is very impressed. Maybe our Politburo and your Politburo could get together for drinks and light political discussion?

Congratulations on moving away from out-and-out capitalism; the United Eastasian Republic is very impressed. Maybe our Politburo and your Politburo could get together for drinks and light political discussion?

Can't quite imagine a bunch of drones and Chinese people drinking and having 'light talk'. It would go something like this:

Chinese guy: What's up everybody?! My name is Tai Mai Shu, and I will be rapping for you today, just a little bit of freestyle.

Drone: Greetings. The topics of conversation are listed on this tablet.

Kreynoria']Can't quite imagine a bunch of drones and Chinese people drinking and having 'light talk'. It would go something like this:

Chinese guy: What's up everybody?! My name is Tai Mai Shu, and I will be rapping for you today, just a little bit of freestyle.

Drone: Greetings. The topics of conversation are listed on this tablet.

I'll give you a well-earned groan for Tai Mai Shu.

I imagine it more as Premier Zhao strutting in with the Foreign Minister laying down a beat -

"Yo yo, East Red Posse be lookin' for more homies. 'Sup, biatches?"

I waited about a minute for this page to load a picture of doctor evil?... Damn

Kreynoria']Pacifinesia's Offensive (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10915987#post10915987)

Operation Venom commencing. Attention Spizania and Pacifinesia.

Remember what i said to Psychotica about that strange species of supermushroom?, well they could be coming your way

Huahin: Sure, he could've held me off for a little while.

I meant Spizania, not you :P I don't think he would have been able to hold you off for long.
Anyway, NG, any news on St Pierre et Miquelon. Two french islands i've claimed, but Lay asked me to check its ok with you, as you have France.

Im using an even more suicidal version of French Nuclear Doctrine :D , i wouldnt have held on long, its just we would be both nuclear slag by now

Remember what i said to Psychotica about that strange species of supermushroom?, well they could be coming your way

You said something about a supermushroom?

I hope you know that I can sink your islands. The best thing to do is set up a conference with me, although I like to appear as the one less likely to let a single Spizani live, I can still try to shield your island in the East Pacific from being damaged if you would just attend a simple SICly meeting...

Otherwise, I would just have to cry ( not really ) about a few hundred million dead...hope you know I don't care about my own losses :-P

I'll start the bidding at 50 billion, I guess.
Then sir, you have Primorsk (the moment I get the money)! Congratulations, and please confirm this deal so that Lay can transfer the territory on the claims list.

You said something about a supermushroom?

I hope you know that I can sink your islands. The best thing to do is set up a conference with me, although I like to appear as the one less likely to let a single Spizani live, I can still try to shield your island in the East Pacific from being damaged if you would just attend a simple SICly meeting...

Otherwise, I would just have to cry ( not really ) about a few hundred million dead...hope you know I don't care about my own losses :-P

You suggest an SIC meeting, my government is busy preparing every weapon (NBC and conventional) in its arsenal, and are you intending to attempt to push the attack against my other interests?

EDIT:
Incase you are attempting to push me out of all my territories, am i allowed to build absolutely massive floating cities, you know so big they are bigger than even the most bloated SD on II, which is big...
They are not combat vessels and dont really move by themselves, thiers a plan to build that freedom ship which will be three million tonnes, i plan on doing something with similar technology but on a much bigger scale. Since il be putting all my resurgent nations budget into it (Il come back as a massive supercorporate group thats building it) i think i can build it bigger than any practical ship today

Then sir, you have Primorsk (the moment I get the money)! Congratulations, and please confirm this deal so that Lay can transfer the territory on the claims list.
Confirmed!

Secret IC:

Official Imperial Memo
For the Proconsul's Eyes Only


VIII.V.MMXI

Training excersises with Ottomans complete. XIII Army to be transferred from Ottoman territory to German-controlled Spain to take part in further excersises with allied forces. VI Armada will dock in various French ports. XI Airforce to be transferred to German bases.

You suggest an SIC meeting, my government is busy preparing every weapon (NBC and conventional) in its arsenal, and are you intending to attempt to push the attack against my other interests?

EDIT:
Incase you are attempting to push me out of all my territories, am i allowed to build absolutely massive floating cities, you know so big they are bigger than even the most bloated SD on II, which is big...
They are not combat vessels and dont really move by themselves, thiers a plan to build that freedom ship which will be three million tonnes, i plan on doing something with similar technology but on a much bigger scale. Since il be putting all my resurgent nations budget into it (Il come back as a massive supercorporate group thats building it) i think i can build it bigger than any practical ship today

You'll be happy to know that I have plenty of napalm, tungsten rod-firing satellites, bunker busters, and 1000mm guns built just for that kind of crap. You won't have time to construct those.

Huahin, I'll give you those islands if you'll participate in the Eurasian Line. I make money and you don't have to spend any.

Cayman Islands secured!

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Pantheaa [Post 12998]: Thread added.
OK/Dooms [Post 13111]: Exchanged lands.
OK [Post 13140]: Thread added.
Bjornoya [Post 13142]: Thread added.
Spizania/Pantheaa [Post 13178]: Yemen transferred.
Kreynoria [Post 13199]: Thread added.
Cot/Doom [Post 13219]: Alright land traded.






Post 12467 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10760388&postcount=12467): I need TLS & Yerffej to come to an agreement on this issue.
Post 12333 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10740878&postcount=12333): I still need Yerffej to confirm his land.
Post 13178 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10911745&postcount=13178): ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! ACHTUNG!!! ACHTUNG!!! ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN PANTHEAA WAR!!! ONLY SPIZANIA HAS CONFIRMED!!! PLEASE CONFIRM OR DENY!!!
Pyschotika/Huahin: What is going on with the remainder of Sakhalin Oblast?




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Yefferej can have Karnataka *shrugs*

Yefferej can have Karnataka *shrugs*

He still has to confirm everything.

Hirgy/OK

Okay so your claims to his Saudi territory are going to him (OK) and his Greek lands are going to you (Hirg). So does this mean that the TATO take over in Grumbles is complete?

Killswitch is done. Cuba, Caymans, and Madeira are all secured.

Not just yet late, will get on the horse and be done by friday.

Also i confirm the land trade between panth and me.

Not just yet late, will get on the horse and be done by friday.

Also i confirm the land trade between panth and me.

Roger that.

The Panthean military is going to be reduced to a national guard only. This is part of the reforms that will be pushed through the new Panthean government and it's commitment toward world peace. Later today, the second council of governors will be posted

Lay, TATO, as USB said, will probably have the Grumbles of War stuff wrapped up by Monday at the latest, but I want to continue the war in Senegal and Gambia for a while. You can add Gambia and Senegal to my claims list and put it on the map while the war goes on, just for the ease of things, but I will most likely continue the war for a while.

Cotland-

Kalmkyia Oblast
Bouvet Island(full control)
Confirming

(This is Cotlands puppet)

Confirming

(This is Cotlands puppet)
Confirming my puppets existance.

Lay, are you putting my Greek lands up today or leaving it for next time? (I don't mind by the way, whatever suits you.)

Lay, are you putting my Greek lands up today or leaving it for next time? (I don't mind by the way, whatever suits you.)

Probably soon. I won't be back from work until 2030 - 2100 tonight so it might be done tonight. I am off tomorrow and I have little to do so.

Oh yea I forgot, take me off D13. Pacifinesia going to war with Spizania, and well I'm basically his big happy neighbor.

Actually, Spizania I'm offering you to become a Protectorate before I whipe my ass with your little island in East Asia. ( From what I've been told, Cotland gave that to you but Layarteb has never changed the map for that claim. )

I'm only interested in fighting you there, but I also wish to inform you that I already have a bit of a Nuclear Disaster planned for you in the comming days if we can't agree on something.

Legend





Pyschotika/Huahin: What is going on with the remainder of Sakhalin Oblast?




Tis all mine apart from the lower Kuriles.

Huahin, I'll give you those islands if you'll participate in the Eurasian Line. I make money and you don't have to spend any.
How do I participate?

Actually, Spizania I'm offering you to become a Protectorate before I whipe my ass with your little island in East Asia. ( From what I've been told, Cotland gave that to you but Layarteb has never changed the map for that claim. )

I'm only interested in fighting you there, but I also wish to inform you that I already have a bit of a Nuclear Disaster planned for you in the comming days if we can't agree on something.

Define Protectorate?

Hmmm.

* Azimeth: On holiday, but a return is highly doubtful. Last active 14 days ago.
* Bjornoya:Active.
* Brydog: Inactive, however, was previously active.
* Carthage (The Lightning Star): Active
* Chronosia: Inactive. Has rarely posted since joining. However, is busy on NS but non EII.
* Cymrea: Recently inactive, however, a return is more likely
* Doomingsland: New
* Dweladelfia prime: Active, but currently on holiday.
* Fourth Reich (North Germania):Active.
* Geneticon: Inactive. Has rarely posted since joining. However, is busy on NS but non EII.
* Hawdawg: Active
* Hirgizstan: Active
* Huahin:Active
* Kreynoria: Active
* Layarteb: Active
* Moorington: New
* Ottoman Khaif: Active
* Pantheaa: Active
* Roman Empire (RomeW):Active
* Rommelia: Hasn't posted since claiming. I have TG'd him with an offer of RPing with him, to which he has TG'd back, but not posted.
* Soviet Bloc: Inactive, with valid reason
* Sparta (Sparta Dominion):Recently inactive
* Spizania: Active
* Squornshelous: Active
* Sultanate of Al Bahrayn (Elephantum): Recently inactive. Posted a lot previously. However, is busy on NS but non EII.
* Teh Ninjas: D12
* Terronian: Inactive. Posted on the Regional board saying his career takes up all his time at the moment.
* The Imperial Realm of Japan (Pyschotika): Active
* The Realm of Cotland (Cotland):Active
* The United Eastasian Republic (Marimaia): Reasonably active
* Turetel: Inactive, and I'm currently RPing for some of his territory.
* Tyrandis: Inactive, with valid reason.
* United Khanates (Neuvo Rica): Active
* United Republics of Eastern Siberia (Andrehervia): D12
* United States of Brink:Active
* Varsola: Inactive
* Yerffej: Inactive

I think SB has a fairly 'valid' (as you put it) reason for being inactive.

Huahin, claim that Russian land Pantheaa gave you, USB do the same so it can be sorted out.

What is SB's reason?

I have already claimed it, I thought. But just incase, I claim it now.

Lay wants you and USB to confirm the lands Pantheaa has offered you, just write 'I confirm'.

And SB's reason is that he lost his leg in a car accident a while back. Between re-hab, trying to get back to work and studying for Uni, I doubt he has much time for E2.

I confirm.

In reference to this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10740878&postcount=12333), I would like to claim Elephantum's part of Antartica...I can't see it on the map though. Anyway I will launch an RP for it shortly.

I confirmed a few posts back but ill do it again. Also Hirg, when can i send in Peacekeepers?

Good assesment Huahin.

I haven't been active because New Genetican is holding to a closed in stance, where there is no diplomatic relations. I doubt this will hold for too much longer, but it will until New Genetican has gained enough strength to interact with the world.

Which it is getting close.

Ah. I always wondered why I'd never seen SB post...