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The ITC is still going, feel free to post.

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Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Arsunt: Has been deleted so the claim automatically defaults to Cotland.
Sparta Dominion: Has become 21-day Decree 8 status.





Cotland [Post 17951]: Thread added & moved.
Koryan/Nerotika [Post 17965]: Territories moved.
Nerotika [Post 18002]: Population updated.
Cotland [Post 18006]: Population updated.
Pushka [Post 18028]: Thread added.
Kreynoria [Post 18029]: D13 added.
Pushka/Cot [Post 18067]: Islands transferred.
Pyschotika [Post 18130]: Thread added.
Nerotika [Post 18210]: Thread added.
OK [Post 18249]: Thread added.










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I'm going to take Azerbaijan and Daghestan. The RP will be in "The Winter War".

I'm going to take Azerbaijan and Daghestan. The RP will be in "The Winter War".

Gotcha.

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Arsunt: Has been deleted so the claim automatically defaults to Cotland.






Arsunt was my puppet and I'm currently RPing in a thread with Cotland about Bahrain.

Arsunt was my puppet and I'm currently RPing in a thread with Cotland about Bahrain.

Indeed but because the puppet was deleted by NationStates it gets removed from here and the claim automatically defaults to whomever is claiming it unless it is under contestation between two or more E2 people (i.e. if I was attacking Bahrain against Cotland it would remain unclaimed until the RP was settled). By RP'ing as a third party nation in the resistance and not actually under Arsunt it defaults through to him.

I claim Ingushetia Republic, Kabardino-Balkar Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia Republic, Stavropol Krai

Indeed but because the puppet was deleted by NationStates it gets removed from here and the claim automatically defaults to whomever is claiming it unless it is under contestation between two or more E2 people (i.e. if I was attacking Bahrain against Cotland it would remain unclaimed until the RP was settled). By RP'ing as a third party nation in the resistance and not actually under Arsunt it defaults through to him.
If it is fine with Cotland, I would like to continue with the RP though.

I claim Ingushetia Republic, Kabardino-Balkar Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia Republic, Stavropol Krai

Gotcha.

If it is fine with Cotland, I would like to continue with the RP though.

Oh I probably should have said earlier, it doesn't mean the RP has to end.

Indeed but because the puppet was deleted by NationStates it gets removed from here and the claim automatically defaults to whomever is claiming it unless it is under contestation between two or more E2 people (i.e. if I was attacking Bahrain against Cotland it would remain unclaimed until the RP was settled). By RP'ing as a third party nation in the resistance and not actually under Arsunt it defaults through to him.

I'll contest it for Arsunt/Whittlesfield. I was just going to wait until the rp got going before announcing my support.

I claim Ingushetia Republic, Kabardino-Balkar Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia Republic, Stavropol Krai

I'll trade you Azerbaijan and Daghestan for those areas.

I'll trade you Azerbaijan and Daghestan for those areas.

Sure, I belive that's reasonable.

Sure, I belive that's reasonable.

Now that is just funny. HAHA!

Now that is just funny. HAHA!

LOL...I realized I was cutting him off so I figured I'd trade.

LOL...I realized I was cutting him off so I figured I'd trade.

Doh! Are you going to do two separate RPs or just one?

By the way, I have the end to Against All Enemies figured out. It's gonna tie into RTL so well.

LOL...I realized I was cutting him off so I figured I'd trade.

So Rome do we have a deal now?

Well I would imagine it would be except for one thing. Neither of you technically own anything yet :).

Well I would imagine it would be except for one thing. Neither of you technically own anything yet :).

technically our nations don't exist...they are just lines of code..(looks around) you didn't hear anything from me..(goes back into the shadows)

technically our nations don't exist...they are just lines of code..(looks around) you didn't hear anything from me..(goes back into the shadows)

True...

technically our nations don't exist...they are just lines of code..(looks around) you didn't hear anything from me..(goes back into the shadows)

Hear what, who are you, where am I....where are my pants...why dont my children visit me...whys my wife in a coffin...why am I so wrinkly...now why is my heart hurting...why do I keep asking questions about things that dont have to actually do with me....I dont have a wife...or Childre...or pants...

Hear what, who are you, where am I....where are my pants...why dont my children visit me...whys my wife in a coffin...why am I so wrinkly...now why is my heart hurting...why do I keep asking questions about things that dont have to actually do with me....I dont have a wife...or Childre...or pants...

Too cold not to have pants.

Too cold not to have pants.

I know, crazy isnt it...darn pants...

Anyone care to offer some critizism on my story, cause I really feel as though it is wronge in some way...I just dont know where or how...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12290617#post12290617 New rp about me claiming Azerbaijan and Daghestan, more is to come.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12290617#post12290617 New rp about me claiming Azerbaijan and Daghestan, more is to come.

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I'd like to get more involved with this roleplay, but it doesn't appear to have any land open.

If anyone is willing, I would like to roleplay out a campaign of seperatism which ultimately leads to the forming of my own independant nation with a portion of the land (We can agree on everything beforehand), and any other specifics necessary for the roleplay.

If no one is willing to take this up, I would instead like to roleplay either as a mercernary corporation/security operations type group, or perhaps some sort of special forces until the day comes when some land does open up.

I respond every so often to TG's, but AIM is best (hellbovine3), just introduce yourself and we'll roll from there.

I'd like to get more involved with this roleplay, but it doesn't appear to have any land open.

If anyone is willing, I would like to roleplay out a campaign of seperatism which ultimately leads to the forming of my own independant nation with a portion of the land (We can agree on everything beforehand), and any other specifics necessary for the roleplay.

If no one is willing to take this up, I would instead like to roleplay either as a mercernary corporation/security operations type group, or perhaps some sort of special forces until the day comes when some land does open up.

I respond every so often to TG's, but AIM is best (hellbovine3), just introduce yourself and we'll roll from there.

Sparta Dominion's territory can be seized through RP. Despite those guys claiming it you can contest the claims for joining or maybe work something out with them.

Sparta Dominion's territory can be seized through RP. Despite those guys claiming it you can contest the claims for joining or maybe work something out with them.

[OOC: I've let them know about it. New RP coming up when we agree on something.]

So Rome do we have a deal now?

Of course.

Im gunna throw my hat into this fight for Sparta's land, just thought I would say that cause I cant get a post up tonight or a thread or anything....Just the russian held territories though, nothing more.

I'll contest it for Arsunt/Whittlesfield. I was just going to wait until the rp got going before announcing my support.

Are you entirely certain that you want to do that, going to war against the Realm? I mean, I have troops already moving into the island, air superiority established and a couple of missiles filled with various kinds of warheads within striking range of your capital... [/gunboat diplomacy]

Welcome to the RP Lame Bums.

A diplomatic contest was more what I was thinking. I was actually planning on letting the rebels do all of the fighting while I cheer them on, give them special discounts at Guns'R'US, etc.

I know not to rattle sabers with the TOA. I may not want a Cottish base right outside my capital but it's better than not having a capital. :eek:

In that case, I'd strongly recommend you to read the Protection of the Realm Act (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139), in particular articles 30 and 32. 'nuff said.

I say we make an ooc thread to sort this all out--exactly who is doing what here, to simplify matters.

A diplomatic contest was more what I was thinking. I was actually planning on letting the rebels do all of the fighting while I cheer them on, give them special discounts at Guns'R'US, etc.

I know not to rattle sabers with the TOA. I may not want a Cottish base right outside my capital but it's better than not having a capital. :eek:

This TOA guy is staying out of it.

I say we make an ooc thread to sort this all out--exactly who is doing what here, to simplify matters.

Main thread basically serves as the general OOC thread :).

Decree 8 & Decree 12 Claiming Summary

Red signifies that a claim is in progress.
Green signifies that no claim has been made.
Blue signifies that a claim was made but there was no post within 24 hours and therefore it has been invalidated. The individual doing in the initial claiming can still post a thread but if someone else posts first then the original is contesting the claim, which is rightfully in the hands of the "new claimer."
Black signifies that a claim has been completed.
Purple signifies that a special circumstance is abound, see claim.

Sparta Dominion [active-D8]

Azerbaijan: Being claimed by Ottoman Khaif in Post 18263 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290485&postcount=18263). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516943).
Dagestan: Being claimed by Ottoman Khaif in Post 18263 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290485&postcount=18263). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516943).
Ingushetia Republic: Being claimed by RomeW in Post 18262 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290469&postcount=18262). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505121). Nerotika announced that he will counter-claim the territory in Post 18281 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290938&postcount=18281).
Kabardino-Balkar Republic: Being claimed by RomeW in Post 18262 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290469&postcount=18262). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505121). Nerotika announced that he will counter-claim the territory in Post 18281 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290938&postcount=18281).
Karachay-Cherkessia Republic: Being claimed by RomeW in Post 18262 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290469&postcount=18262). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505121). Nerotika announced that he will counter-claim the territory in Post 18281 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290938&postcount=18281).
Stavropol Krai: Being claimed by RomeW in Post 18262 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290469&postcount=18262). Thread is located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505121). Nerotika announced that he will counter-claim the territory in Post 18281 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12290938&postcount=18281).


Note 1: Lame Buns has expressed interest in counter-claiming one or more of these territories as a "resistance" group or something of the sort but has not specified which.


Some other information that I can shed on the situation is the following:

1. We should probably keep the Nerotika/RomeW claims in one thread this way it is easier to keep track of considering both of you are going for the same territories.

2. In error to what I previously told you Lame Buns, and I apologize for the mix-up, you don't necessarily have to ask permission to make a counter-claim as a resistance group and you can do so. It states it in Decree 12, which I should probably have been more aware of when I made the posts.

Oh..My..

lol...

"President Bush, North Korea's got nukes."

"Nig nig nok nog nig nig nok, ya know what the translates into? WHATEVER!"

Wow...

Watch this, seriously. It's pretty funny, oh and...

PANTS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmarWHlKTQ&mode=related&search=

Im confused, am I suppose to post my claiming in The Winter War?

I'm offering the S-92 Superhawk for export if anyone is interested. I have 3 versions available: troop transport, CSAR, and VIP transport.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Air/h92.htm

Slight change of plan--Ottoman Khaif is only interested in Azerabijan, and I'll just claim the remainder of that, as an actual nation (resistence group becoming said nation, if necessary). That aside, basically I am challenging everyone else's claim to the lands.

Slight change of plan--Ottoman Khaif is only interested in Azerabijan, and I'll just claim the remainder of that, as an actual nation (resistence group becoming said nation, if necessary). That aside, basically I am challenging everyone else's claim to the lands.

That's confusing...

Slight change of plan--Ottoman Khaif is only interested in Azerabijan, and I'll just claim the remainder of that, as an actual nation (resistence group becoming said nation, if necessary). That aside, basically I am challenging everyone else's claim to the lands.

Yep, I am just now claiming Azerabijan only now.

That's confusing...

To clarify... I'm claiming everything that was Sparta Dominion, except for Azerabijan.

To clarify... I'm claiming everything that was Sparta Dominion, except for Azerabijan.

Ah okay. Well I can tell you that Dagestan is uncontested so you will have primary on that one and the other territories will be between you, RomeW, and Nerotika. It would definitely be wise to do it all in a single thread.

I don't know if anyone is still reading Ascensión and Against All Enemies but the former is going to be ending soon. It isn't going to be as long as The Decayed even so it'll be a short one. Against All Enemies will be going for slightly longer though.

Slight change of plan--Ottoman Khaif is only interested in Azerabijan, and I'll just claim the remainder of that, as an actual nation (resistence group becoming said nation, if necessary). That aside, basically I am challenging everyone else's claim to the lands.

Lame Bums..if you need air support or any humitarian aid to your young nation while it fights for its freedom. TG me i will be willing to help any young nation into the world (if you say yes of course im going to post in your RP)

When you have become a nation..we can sit down and talk about a Free Trade Agreement and maybe you buying some of my old MIGs that im going to no longer need (im switching to Isreal aircraft..Mirages Hooah!)

In fact Pantheaa airforce pilots can train you on the MIGs now..

Lame Bums..if you need air support or any humitarian aid to your young nation while it fights for its freedom. TG me i will be willing to help any young nation into the world (if you say yes of course im going to post in your RP)

When you have become a nation..we can sit down and talk about a Free Trade Agreement and maybe you buying some of my old MIGs that im going to no longer need (im switching to Isreal aircraft..Mirages Hooah!)

In fact Pantheaa airforce pilots can train you on the MIGs now..

Mirages? No you don't want to do that unless you're operating MiG-21s and MiG-23s LOL.

Mirages? No you don't want to do that unless you're operating MiG-21s and MiG-23s LOL.

Uhh yeah your probably right
Forget the Mirages then

panthea will have a badass Air Force though...probably one of the most best in the E2 world (like Isreal)

What Aircraft is the black market selling. Terrorian i believe? Hook me up with the stealth fighters!

The Realm is hereby offering its intention to release its newest fighter aircraft, the F-27/A Sabel for export. Contact the Defense Ministry for further information if you're interested (read: here in this thread).

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00246/norskgripen-t_246922v.gif

@ Pantheaa: I'm going to start with scrappy stuff, AKs, MiGs, T-72s, that shit, and then start importing my own nation's tech when I get established and rp the economy rolling, and so on and so forth. So, yeah, I'll sign up for the MiGs, if only as a temporary solution. But if you really want to get involved, cash is the best first option (in return, of course, rub my back, I rub yours), fallowed by weapons/munitions.

@ Nerotika/RomeW: I'll crank out the first post, probably tomorrow if nothing goes absurdly wrong. It'll be a brief background/introduction of who's who on my side of the spiel, that sort of thing. If we can get a hold of each other on AIM or something, that'll be great.

Uhh yeah your probably right
Forget the Mirages then

panthea will have a badass Air Force though...probably one of the most best in the E2 world (like Isreal)

What Aircraft is the black market selling. Terrorian i believe? Hook me up with the stealth fighters!

At least stock up on 4.5 & 5th generation fighters like the Gripen, Typhoon, MiG-35, Su-30, F-22, that sort of stuff.

Uhh yeah your probably right
Forget the Mirages then

panthea will have a badass Air Force though...probably one of the most best in the E2 world (like Isreal)

What Aircraft is the black market selling. Terrorian i believe? Hook me up with the stealth fighters!

If you want to buy some Mish-11 Arhangels from me I will sell them to you. Its an old plane of mine but its defenetly better then RL 5th gen like Raptor. Which reminds me I need to design a new plane....brrr...everyone wait for AD-142 Yastreb assault rifle I actually put some effort into researching shit for this one, hope you like it.

I've added a Roleplaying Guide to my Factbook with info on all my story RPs.

The link is now in my signature and you can see all 15 RPs that I made for story, only 3 of which are still active.

Also added more to the "gory details."

I've decided instead to be sending only military aide to Lame Bums (If he wants it) and also sell weapons, low prices on modern tech. It will be covert sence I have not officially posted a claim or military action into these territories. So basically I will send troops, weapons and other junk to aide him at his disposal. [What do you say Lame Bums, its that or my men come in and fight you]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12294683#post12294683

Far From Perfect...

A different story that I will definatly update regullarly, writers block on Love, Life and Revolution made me write this and this one I like.

I've decided instead to be sending only military aide to Lame Bums (If he wants it) and also sell weapons, low prices on modern tech. It will be covert sence I have not officially posted a claim or military action into these territories. So basically I will send troops, weapons and other junk to aide him at his disposal. [What do you say Lame Bums, its that or my men come in and fight you]

Yeah, I'll roll with that. (However, most if not all of my guys are anti-communists... so I'm going to play out some infighting here.)

SECRETS OF THE JUNGLE: PART EIGHT- This is a prelude to Part Nine which will be explosive and action packed. I'll have it done in a few days. Enjoy.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12295278&postcount=286

I'll be posting in The End Times... by Wednsday. I'm not being hardcore with advertising it, but it really does help to get feedback otherwise I just get this numb feeling of 'Why should I post then lol'...

Hirg, I'll definately be maeking an effort to read your rp soon.

Being a Russian nation and a Russian I would like to do the Russian thing and flood the world market with my rifle from which I will surely suffer economically in the long run. Would anybody like to purchase Dragunov Firearms Holding newest innovation, AD-142 Yastreb a rifle built to be superior to all of its western alternatives in durability, accuracy, mobility, armor penetration and effectiveness.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

Mari check TGs.

My workload just keeps getting heavier.............
Ugh, sorry about this all those people eager to slide there fangs into the nice juicy flesh of a massively liberal democracy.

Dude, I'm a Fascist, Nationalistic, Imperialistic, Pro-Milituare nation...

Yet I haven't even touched you...yet...lol

The fight in arabia will go screwy as soon as i get back, including the use of some rather unconventional EW tactics.

I personally just want to get done with the Baker aka you editing your post and taking the due damage from my missiles.

@ Pantheaa: I'm going to start with scrappy stuff, AKs, MiGs, T-72s, that shit, and then start importing my own nation's tech when I get established and rp the economy rolling, and so on and so forth. So, yeah, I'll sign up for the MiGs, if only as a temporary solution. But if you really want to get involved, cash is the best first option (in return, of course, rub my back, I rub yours), fallowed by weapons/munitions.

@ Nerotika/RomeW: I'll crank out the first post, probably tomorrow if nothing goes absurdly wrong. It'll be a brief background/introduction of who's who on my side of the spiel, that sort of thing. If we can get a hold of each other on AIM or something, that'll be great.

If you want a superior assault rifle in your arsenal, take a look at my AD-142 Yastreb. I'll even lower the price for you if you make it your standard issue rifle.

Pushka, do you export the AD-142 to anyone (especially the Drakon)? I was thinking about designing a domestic rifle for Koryan but that's a top-notch assault rifle.

Pushka, do you export the AD-142 to anyone (especially the Drakon)? I was thinking about designing a domestic rifle for Koryan but that's a top-notch assault rifle.

Yeap, I export it, Drakon price is 780 USD per rifle. How many would you like? Also don't post an order here, post it in the AD-142 thread. Drakon however I will only sell in limited numbers.

I'll consider it. I like the gun but I'd prefer electronic assistance for my soldiers. I have a small standing army so I want each soldier to have some of the best equipment avaliable.

At least stock up on 4.5 & 5th generation fighters like the Gripen, Typhoon, MiG-35, Su-30, F-22, that sort of stuff.

Dude i have the Gripen and the Typhoon look at my Order of Battle on the offsite forum..but i would be interested in buying those jets Pushka

Lame Bums, If money is what you need then money is what you will get. The Grand Duke shall fund the resistance movement (provided that you don't use terrorism or read the Gospel of Marx) then you with that transaction you can purchase good Pushka rifles

If you want a superior assault rifle in your arsenal, take a look at my AD-142 Yastreb. I'll even lower the price for you if you make it your standard issue rifle.
I'd LOVE to know how you manage to fit a 40x magnification scope on an assault rifle. You realize most sniper rifles use scopes with a magnification of 10x, right? The scope is probably going to be longer than the rifle itself...

I'll consider it. I like the gun but I'd prefer electronic assistance for my soldiers. I have a small standing army so I want each soldier to have some of the best equipment avaliable.

How small is your small standing army?

Doom I would also like to point out that you're full of shit

http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-swat-10-40x50ir-tactical-rifle-scope.html

40x magnification here it is mounted on a rifle

http://www.brownprecision.com/images/Tactical-Elite-600.jpg

It is not hard to assume that before 2015 it will become even more compact.

How small is your small standing army?

Active Army Personnel: 520,000

That's not counting marines and the likes but it's still pretty small compared to NS standards. I'm still sorting out my air and naval forces out yet so I'm not sure on those numbers.

520000 is a lot of rifles, what we could do is me letting you manufacture the original AD-142 under license and you putting your own electronics on the rifle, I mean not every soldier needs a thermal sight and an on-board computer, if you want we can talk about it and maybe have a cooperative design of a cheaper version of the Groza system. I'd suggest just buying AD-142 Yastreb for your regular armed forces and Drakon version for your marines, paratroops and special forces. That'd be cheaper and still give your army everything it needs in terms of the standard issue assault rifle.

EDIT

Actually nvm, screw it, as long its as under a million rifle order I will oblige, now that I think of it I'll be arming all my guys with Drakons and Smert will be reserved for all the 500000 of my special forces and not just MIASU.

Sounds good. I'll drop an order by your thread in a bit. Could I still produce the original under license for my reserves and militias?

Sounds good. I'll drop an order by your thread in a bit. Could I still produce the original under license for my reserves and militias?

Yeap

Well I finished the aviation brigades for my army.


AH-6M Little Bird: 972
AH-94A Stalker: 748
AH-99A Anasazi: 740
CH-47F Chinook: 146
CH-53N Super Stallion II: 166
MCG-13A Switchblade: 816
MCG-13B Switchblade: 816
MH-100A Explorer: 324
MH-47G Chinook: 224
MH-53P Pave Low V: 224
MH-60M Black Hawk: 648
MH-6M Little Bird: 648
MV-24B Bulldog: 608
NH-96C Panther: 156
OH-72B Lakota: 428
RAH-70A Arapaho: 428
UH-60M Black Hawk: 454
UH-72A Lakota: 384
UH-96A Panther: 306
UV-24D Bulldog: 310

Looks good Lay.


Anyone looking for a replacement for the Stryker or a 21st Century APC/IFV then look no further than the M3 Arrow Brigade Combat Vehicle:

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7025#7025

Yeah, I'll roll with that. (However, most if not all of my guys are anti-communists... so I'm going to play out some infighting here.)

My boys aint Commie, no need to worry. The Soviet stands simply for freedom (As there as really been no official connection between Soviet and Communism, the former user of Soviet did not include that the communist party that held control was soviet they just said their nation was. Very confusing) Anyway, I am pure socialist with a slight nationalism, but we'll get into that later everyone, so it should be ok.

I really need to get a factbook up.

Eh...Nero, first of all Soviet does not mean freedom, it means council or advice. Second of all Union of Soviet Socialist Republics included Soviet and Socialist (in this case read communist). Eh...so yeah, here you have that.

Pushka, I think I'm going to have to put off buying the production rights for a bit. I decided to cut my military budget yesterday afternoon (I've been trying to reduce it in favor of healthcare but the issue cut it down to $0. So I guess my military will be operating off excess police funds until I can get the right issues.

I try to be nice to my people and they kick me in the balls. I guess that's democracy for you.

Pushka, I think I'm going to have to put off buying the production rights for a bit. I decided to cut my military budget yesterday afternoon (I've been trying to reduce it in favor of healthcare but the issue cut it down to $0. So I guess my military will be operating off excess police funds until I can get the right issues.

I try to be nice to my people and they kick me in the balls. I guess that's democracy for you.

There are inherent problems with the NS system such as the 0% & 100% tax bugs. Sometimes it'll do stupid stuff like that so you shouldn't make the calculators your end all, be all, just use them as a guide.

Cotland and Pushka is their anywhere i can go to to see the specs for the Sabel and Archangel. I might just buy them both so don't be competetive

Are they better then my Grippens that i currently have

Cotland and Pushka is their anywhere i can go to to see the specs for the Sabel and Archangel. I might just buy them both so don't be competetive

Are they better then my Grippens that i currently have

Gimme a few hours to get back home and I'll get you the specs on the Sabel. Bear in mind that it's really nothing more than a seriously modified and improved Gripen-N (hence the pic). Same league as the Gripen, but perfect for home defense and foreign deployment multirole needs. But to answer your question, yes, they are better than the Gripens you're currently operating.

Here you go Panth. It's the export version, available for most E2 nations to buy.


F-27 Sabel

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00246/norskgripen-t_246922c.jpg

Role: Multirole Fighter
Crew: 1 [A]; 2
Cost: $55.0 million [A]; $60.0 million [B]
Length: 14.80 meters
Wingspan: 8.40 meters
Height: 4.50 meters
Empty Weight: 5,700.00 kg
Maximum Weight: 14,500.00 [normal take-off]; 19,150.00 kg [maximum take-off]
Fuel Weight: 4,250.00 kg [internal] + 1,800.00 litres [external drop tank, optional]
Armament Weight: 9,200.00 kg
Power Plant: 1 CTJE-3A-2007 afterburning turbojet engine
Maximum Thrust: 9,750.00 kg-f
Maximum Speed @ S/L: Mach 1.15
Maximum Speed @ Altitude: Mach 2.12
Initial Climb Rate: 9,200.00 meter / minute
Service Ceiling: 15,000.00 meters
Range: 1,150.00 km [combat]; 3,000.00 km [ferry]
G-Limits: - 3 / + 9
Gun: 1 M300A1 27mm cannon with 380 rounds
Stations: 2 wingtip hardpoints rated at 450.00 kg each; 6 external under-wing hardpoints rated at 1,000.00 kg each; 2 external fuselage hardpoints rated at 2,500.00 kg each; 1 external fuselage hardpoint on the right-hand side for sensor pod rated at 300.00 kg
Air-to-Air Armament:Normal loadout is two IRIS-T short-range air to air missiles on wingpoints, two BVRAAM air to air missiles loaded on outer wing hardpoints and four BVRAAM air to air missiles on dual-mounts on fuselage hardpoints
Air-to-Ground Armament: Normal loadout is either four AMESM air to surface missiles on inner four wing hardpoints, but can also carry Brimstone, Maverick, Storm Shadow, Harpoon missiles, and iron/guided bombs
Avionics: CAM-2/C, DFOBS, CHMCS, Zeiss Optronic Litening FLIR/Laser Designator Pod [optional]
ECM: AJSP-23 CEASDJS, IR Suppression System reducing heat by 350 %, 180 Chaff Bundles, 180 Flares
Radar Signature: Similar to JAS 39 C Gripen
Variants:
[b]F-27/A Sabel – Single-seat production model
F-27/B Sabel – Double-seat production model

SECRETS OF THE JUNGLE-PART NINE. As promised here is the action packed part nine. I reckon you all thought you knew what was going to happen after part eight...but you were wrong...haha. I also drew up a small layout of the area where the action takes place.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12303013&postcount=287

Cotland and Pushka is their anywhere i can go to to see the specs for the Sabel and Archangel. I might just buy them both so don't be competetive

Are they better then my Grippens that i currently have

Mish-11PVVS Arhangel (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448578)

Now available for export. This is a more MT focused version of Mish-11/F-79 still a good plane though.

Eh...Nero, first of all Soviet does not mean freedom, it means council or advice. Second of all Union of Soviet Socialist Republics included Soviet and Socialist (in this case read communist). Eh...so yeah, here you have that.

...well Monkeys are cool.

Indeed they are, until they start shooting their banana guns and bring slaughter upon man kind. Something about bacon.

To Lame Buns and Nerotika (and for any future D12 missions involving myself):

I am not against the idea of splitting land. I am not the type who will actively seek out a war, as I am willing to reason and compromise. Contact me first via a telegram (as I check those first and more often) and we'll arrange something. As far as this particular scenario goes, I hope to come to some sort of agreement here to split the territories.

I don't want the posts in "The Winter War"- I have a seperate story going there on the other side of Russia. So I want to establish another thread where we can all work together concerning Sparta's land and split it in such a way that we're all happy.

Thank you.

By the way Nero, did I send you a TG about my rifle?

Added some more to AAE and Ascensión, the latter of which should be ending soon.

Here you go Panth. It's the export version, available for most E2 nations to buy.

That plane is enticing.

That plane is enticing.

Wanna buy some?

i like the Sabel, though i wouldn't want to pass up on a stealth aircraft so

I would like to purchase 150 F-27 Sabel A's along with the 50 of the B varients from the Kingdom of Cotland

And about 75 Mish-11's from the Russian Federation

Sold. $11.25 billion please. They'll be delivered fresh from the factories once we have the payment in our accounts, and I'll throw in the sensor pods for free. Where do you want them delivered?

Its going to be 8.9 billion USD, thats a special price, I will also throw in 500 RDD-21 Long Range AA missiles for free. Where do you want it all shipped?

Sweet i get AA's good deal

Payment is on its way...deliver the Sabels to Kursk Royal Airforce base

The Archangels will go to North command airforce base located in Ryazen

They'll be added to my ORBATS once they are delivered

Sweet i get AA's good deal

Payment is on its way...deliver the Sabels to Kursk Royal Airforce base

The Archangels will go to North command airforce base located in Ryazen

They'll be added to my ORBATS once they are delivered

Than consider them delivered.

Armsdealers, i'm in the market for a new Assault Rifle and Sidearm for my Military, any ideas?

Armsdealers, i'm in the market for a new Assault Rifle and Sidearm for my Military, any ideas?

L100 Assault Rifle

http://usuarios.lycos.es/blackcatgr/modules/dpHtml/famas.jpg


Status: In-Service
Caliber: 6.8x48mm LDC
Action: Delay blowback
Fire Mode: Semi-Automatic, Full-Automatic, Safety
Overall Length: 757.00 mm
Barrel Length: 488.00 mm
Weight: 3.12 kg [empty]; 3.80 kg [loaded]
Magazine: 28 rounds
Shell: Standard Ball
Rate of Fire: 980 rounds / minute
Maximum Range: 870.00 meters
Effective Range: 635.00 meters
Muzzle Velocity: 890.00 meters / second
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 51,550 PSI
Equipment Availabilities: Suppressor, scope optics, front handle, laser, flashlight, L107A1 grenade launcher
Cost: $950
Service Life: 40,000 rounds


'nuff said.

Than consider them delivered.

Twice. :p

Armsdealers, i'm in the market for a new Assault Rifle and Sidearm for my Military, any ideas?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

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AD-142 Yastreb, you know, the superior assault rifle, shorter, has a better AP round, recoil-reduction, additional double-round firing mode as well as semi and auto and better accuracy then what Cot offered you, its a mini sniper rifle on crack. Also you can purchase up to 1 million of Drakon modification with all the fancy electronics included. Outshoots, outhits and outbadarses every other gun on the market. Now its 'nuff said. Check the thread though and read the write-up if you need any more convincing. Buy it while its fresh!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

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AD-142 Yastreb, you know, the superior assault rifle, shorter, has a better AP round, recoil-reduction, double-round firing mode and better accuracy then what Cot offered you, its a mini sniper rifle on crack. Also you can purchase up to 1 million of Drakon modification with all the fancy electronics included. Outshoots, outhits and outbadarses every other gun on the market. Now its 'nuff said. Check the thread though and read the write-up if you need any more convincing. Buy it while its fresh!

What is the weight of your bullet? Is it the 7.62 x 39mm round? That weighs 7.97 grams or 123 grains.

What is the weight of your bullet? Is it the 7.62 x 39mm round? That weighs 7.97 grams or 123 grains.

Yeah its the 7.62x39 mm AP, wolfram capped, inner air pocket round. Its made of mostly wolfram though so the weight would be somewhat different.

SECRETS OF THE JUNGLE-PART TEN.
Time to introduce the men who'll be doing the ass kicking!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12309102&postcount=291

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

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AD-142 Yastreb, you know, the superior assault rifle, shorter, has a better AP round, recoil-reduction, additional double-round firing mode as well as semi and auto and better accuracy then what Cot offered you, its a mini sniper rifle on crack. Also you can purchase up to 1 million of Drakon modification with all the fancy electronics included. Outshoots, outhits and outbadarses every other gun on the market. Now its 'nuff said. Check the thread though and read the write-up if you need any more convincing. Buy it while its fresh!

Maybe so, but what I'm offering is combat-proven in conditions ranging from +50 degrees Celcius to - 45 degrees Celcius, has a round with the killing power of the 7.62x51mm while still weighing almost as little as the 5.56x45mm round, relatively lightweight, can have any attachment that Pushka's can (if not more) and comes with one thousand four hundred 6.8x48mm LDC rounds per rifle and a five-year warranty. If it breaks down, we fix it, free of charge!

To Lame Buns and Nerotika (and for any future D12 missions involving myself):

I am not against the idea of splitting land. I am not the type who will actively seek out a war, as I am willing to reason and compromise. Contact me first via a telegram (as I check those first and more often) and we'll arrange something. As far as this particular scenario goes, I hope to come to some sort of agreement here to split the territories.

I don't want the posts in "The Winter War"- I have a seperate story going there on the other side of Russia. So I want to establish another thread where we can all work together concerning Sparta's land and split it in such a way that we're all happy.

Thank you.

[OOC: Haven't been able to respond--if you guys must know I won a lotto ticket and had to drive quite a bit to get it cashed! so I am in a good mood today]

Ottoman Khaif and I agreed that he would take Azerabijan only, and I would RP something involving that later with him, probably along the lines of "That was my land, now I want it back" sort of border war, or something. As to the rest of that land, I am claiming the rest of it, all or nothing, so no more splitting (imagine cramming my entire population into anything smaller!). But perhaps we can work something out, since I will be starting from scratch and working my way up from there.

Maybe so, but what I'm offering is combat-proven in conditions ranging from +50 degrees Celcius to - 45 degrees Celcius, has a round with the killing power of the 7.62x51mm while still weighing almost as little as the 5.56x45mm round, relatively lightweight, can have any attachment that Pushka's can (if not more) and comes with one thousand four hundred 6.8x48mm LDC rounds per rifle and a five-year warranty. If it breaks down, we fix it, free of charge!

Because of polymer housing and simplicity of design AD-142 Yastreb will almost never break or jam and can operate in any environment, including after being thrown in water, mud or sand. Also the killing power of 7.62x51 is less then that of 5.56 because the 7.62x51 same as x32 doesn't shatter once it enters the body thus usually leaving treatable wounds. That is why RF 7.62x31 has an air pocket inside of bullet, this allows the bullet to destabilize 17 cm earlier while inside the tissue flipping itself and creating a much larger and harder to treat would then otherwise. In any case there is no way your round can match the armor penetration of 7.62x32 AP made of wolfram and if you notice my rifle is still lighter then yours. In fact, being generous I'll throw in 1600 of these rounds for every rifle and of course a 10 year warranty which was there anyways.

Yeah its the 7.62x39 mm AP, wolfram capped, inner air pocket round. Its made of mostly wolfram though so the weight would be somewhat different.

Yeah it only has about 107 more foot pounds of energy than the 6.8 normal round but not more than the special sniper round. The muzzle velocity might be a little high but the 6.8 round is more stable than the 7.62 x 39mm and has a longer effective range :).

Ottoman Khaif and I agreed that he would take Azerabijan only, and I would RP something involving that later with him, probably along the lines of "That was my land, now I want it back" sort of border war, or something. As to the rest of that land, I am claiming the rest of it, all or nothing, so no more splitting (imagine cramming my entire population into anything smaller!). But perhaps we can work something out, since I will be starting from scratch and working my way up from there.

I am devoted to aiding you Lame, anything you want I am here to help. Also my troops do need combat training and I need to test out a few new systems I have produced for my men. Thats one thing that will be sent no matter what, you have full devotion from the 2nd Southern Army (43,000 Troops) this included three infantry divisions and 1 armored. If war should come to your new nation then we will back you up.

I am devoted to aiding you Lame, anything you want I am here to help. Also my troops do need combat training and I need to test out a few new systems I have produced for my men. Thats one thing that will be sent no matter what, you have full devotion from the 2nd Southern Army (43,000 Troops) this included three infantry divisions and 1 armored. If war should come to your new nation then we will back you up.

Do you have AIM? (This will be a thousand times easier if you do.)

[OOC: Haven't been able to respond--if you guys must know I won a lotto ticket and had to drive quite a bit to get it cashed! so I am in a good mood today]

Ottoman Khaif and I agreed that he would take Azerabijan only, and I would RP something involving that later with him, probably along the lines of "That was my land, now I want it back" sort of border war, or something. As to the rest of that land, I am claiming the rest of it, all or nothing, so no more splitting (imagine cramming my entire population into anything smaller!). But perhaps we can work something out, since I will be starting from scratch and working my way up from there.

Congrats! Of course, in light of this, to let you in on my land you may need to give me a cut... ;)

Tell you what- as a gesture of goodwill, I'll just let you have all of it. I've got enough Russian land as it is. I only ask for diplomatic relations in return. I believe that's fair.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

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AD-142 Yastreb, you know, the superior assault rifle, shorter, has a better AP round, recoil-reduction, additional double-round firing mode as well as semi and auto and better accuracy then what Cot offered you, its a mini sniper rifle on crack. Also you can purchase up to 1 million of Drakon modification with all the fancy electronics included. Outshoots, outhits and outbadarses every other gun on the market. Now its 'nuff said. Check the thread though and read the write-up if you need any more convincing. Buy it while its fresh!

That small little rifle has a rate of fire higher then the Real Life M249

I bet this AD-142 jams and double feeds like crazy

Not to mention overheating...feel sorry for the poor soul that touches a hot barrel of a AD-142

That small little rifle has a rate of fire higher then the Real Life M249

I bet this AD-142 jams and double feeds like crazy

LOL. It looks impressive, but I'm not so sure I'd want to reload a fresh clip every two seconds....

Not to mention overheating...feel sorry for the poor soul that touches a hot barrel of a AD-142

Like touching the barrel of an M2 after 700 rounds.

[OOC: Haven't been able to respond--if you guys must know I won a lotto ticket and had to drive quite a bit to get it cashed! so I am in a good mood today]

Ottoman Khaif and I agreed that he would take Azerabijan only, and I would RP something involving that later with him, probably along the lines of "That was my land, now I want it back" sort of border war, or something. As to the rest of that land, I am claiming the rest of it, all or nothing, so no more splitting (imagine cramming my entire population into anything smaller!). But perhaps we can work something out, since I will be starting from scratch and working my way up from there.

I am devoted to aiding you Lame, anything you want I am here to help. Also my troops do need combat training and I need to test out a few new systems I have produced for my men. Thats one thing that will be sent no matter what, you have full devotion from the 2nd Southern Army (43,000 Troops) this included three infantry divisions and 1 armored. If war should come to your new nation then we will back you up.

Congrats! Of course, in light of this, to let you in on my land you may need to give me a cut... ;)

Tell you what- as a gesture of goodwill, I'll just let you have all of it. I've got enough Russian land as it is. I only ask for diplomatic relations in return. I believe that's fair.

So what are the three of you doing now and is anyone going for Dagestan?

Yeah it only has about 107 more foot pounds of energy than the 6.8 normal round but not more than the special sniper round. The muzzle velocity might be a little high but the 6.8 round is more stable than the 7.62 x 39mm and has a longer effective range :).

If you look at our write-ups, no they don't. Effective range is not just the stability of the round, it also has a lot to do with the optics and the stability of the barrel (which with shoulder held bullpup guns is better). Also you are looking at my 7.62x39 and you see a Soviet 7.62x39 those are too different rounds, they use different powder, they use different materials, they are even shapped differently (I think I mention it briefly in my write-up), so no, what goes for Soviet 7.62 doesn't necessary go for my 7.62.

That small little rifle has a rate of fire higher then the Real Life M249

I bet this AD-142 jams and double feeds like crazy

Oh god, well first of all, rate of fire I took looking at that of AN-94 which is infact greater (1800 rounds per minute max, 600 minimum), infact the system works basically the same as on AN-94, first two bullets in full-auto are fired at the maximum rate, all the others are fired much slower so no, no jamming and no double feeding, this isn't an M-16 this takes heritage from Russian guns. This also solves the problem of overheating. Now I know you want to help Cot out for some reason unknown to me, but really, your attempts to bash my gun are rather pathetic. I did do research on every part of its design before I wrote it up you know.

LOL. It looks impressive, but I'm not so sure I'd want to reload a fresh clip every two seconds....

Well that is just about what you're getting with your gun as well as almost any assault rifle in the world, at 980 rounds per minute, your rifle will empty its 28 round magazine very fast actually it fires 32.7 rounds per two seconds. If you're not an idiot you won't use the full-auto all the time, you'll use semi or double round on my rifle and semi on your rifle much more often.

So what are the three of you doing now and is anyone going for Dagestan?

I believe Lame Buns is going for Daghestan. If not, I will. Otherwise, I will go for nothing.

Either way lets continue this in an appropriate thread on Lay's forums, I have posted all the info there you need to clear up your confusions.

So what are the three of you doing now and is anyone going for Dagestan?

Im not quite sure, but I am deploying my 2nd Southern army to those territories. I need somewhere to test my new combat systems and so hopfully Lame can have some use of my men.

Right now, I'm claiming all land that Sparta Dominion had, except for Azerabijan (although I "claim" Azerabijan as part of my national territory, this will be for another rp, another date). As far as I get it, I'll rp the establishment of my government from the various militias and such, with the support from four divisons from Nerotika.

Is RomeW still getting involved--and if so how?

Right now, I'm claiming all land that Sparta Dominion had, except for Azerabijan (although I "claim" Azerabijan as part of my national territory, this will be for another rp, another date). As far as I get it, I'll rp the establishment of my government from the various militias and such, with the support from four divisons from Nerotika.

Is RomeW still getting involved--and if so how?

Okay so this changes it a bit meaning that Azerbaijan is uncontested for OK, Dagestan is uncontested for you, and the Russian territory is between you and Nerotika? I think Rome bowed out but I'm not sure.

You guys do know that, technically, a thread has to be up in 24 hrs or else the claims are invalidated so technically they're still open to anyone (except OK w/ Azer because he did get a claim thread up, not that it can't be contested).

The Russian territory is mine--Nerotika is simply sending in troops to back up my government when it gets established. I'm now just waiting to see what RomeW's stance is on this before I get started.

The Russian territory is mine--Nerotika is simply sending in troops to back up my government when it gets established. I'm now just waiting to see what RomeW's stance is on this before I get started.

Might at least want to get a thread started.

Is RomeW still getting involved?

No. I figured as a newcomer you can have that land.

Someone's going to have to take the land or else I'm landing paratroopers somewhere.

Someone's going to have to take the land or else I'm landing paratroopers somewhere.

Just send in Paratroopers...

Just send in Paratroopers...

I'm trying to be nice.

I'll have the first post up either tonight or tomorrow, I swear. I should be completely sober by then.

I'll have the first post up either tonight or tomorrow, I swear. I should be completely sober by then.

I hope you didn't waste all your winnings at the bar...you should be able to enjoy the win after today.

I just realized that I forgot the AGM-129 ACM on my WMD listing. I actually have 4,000 AGM-129B ACMs (improved AGM-129As) in service so let me add those. I have 106.34GT of destructive power.

whoa, what's going on? i keep missing out on these land grabs. i haven't been active the past week at all due to the removal of a few teeth. if there's any land left to claim, someone let me know.

Hi, sorry I havn't been around much recently. At the moment I've got absolutely loads of work to do for college, and it's not going to lift for the forseeable future. I've decided to leave EII, probably for good this time. Whilst I'll keep my nation alive on NS, I don't really have the free time to do much else.

It's been fun RPing with you all.

Sorry to see you go man. It's been fun RPing with you, and I wish you luck further in life. Hope to see you back here in the future.


With that, I'm claiming Alaska.

Hi, sorry I havn't been around much recently. At the moment I've got absolutely loads of work to do for college, and it's not going to lift for the forseeable future. I've decided to leave EII, probably for good this time. Whilst I'll keep my nation alive on NS, I don't really have the free time to do much else.

It's been fun RPing with you all.

Damn man that's serious. You do know you'll always be welcomed back right?

In light of this I'd like to ensure that some of the land stays for newbies and that land will be in South America

Argentina
Brazil (Amapá)
Brazil (Bahia)
Brazil (Ceará)
Brazil (Distrito Federal)
Brazil (Espírito Santo)
Brazil (Goiás)
Brazil (Maranhão)
Brazil (Mato Grosso)
Brazil (Minas Gerais)
Brazil (Pará)
Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Piauí)
Brazil (Rio Grande do Norte)
Brazil (Roraima)
Brazil (Tocantins)
Paraguay
Uruguay

Aside from that I'm taking 5 & 26 in Mexico (Chiapas & Tabasco).

In further news:

Sparta Dominion has been deleted by NS so the claims will default:

Azerbaijan defaults to Ottoman Khaif

The others default to Lame Bums
Please could you provide the population you are listing on this Earth
See Spreadsheet for Details

With the addition of the population of Alaska, the population of the Realm is now stable at 772,000,000 citizens.

I would like to claim the following:

Mexico:
Mexico (Aguascalientes) Mexico (Colima) Mexico (Diatrito Federale) Mexico (Guanajato) Mexico (Guerrero) Mexico (Hidalgo) Mexico (Jalisco) Mexico (Mйxico) Mexico (Michoacбn) Mexico (Morelos) Mexico (Nuevo Leуn) Mexico (Oaxaca) Mexico (Puebla) Mexico (Querйtaro) Mexico (San Luis Potoaн) Mexico (Tamaulipas) Mexico (Tlaxacale) Mexico (Veracruz) Mexico (Zacatecas)

EDIT

Also I would like to claim Juan de Nova Island, Mauritius Mayotte

I'll claim the Crozet Islands and the Johnston Atoll (nice sites for secret research, etc.)

Sorry to see you go Neuvo, you've always been a good one.

I guess Brunei needs a new patron....oh what the heck, I'll do it. More oil reserves never hurt anyone.

Hey, I can play that random claiming game too!

Brunei...yes...I claim it.

Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Berkner Island
Bulgaria
Chuvashia Republic
Clipperton Island
Mari El Republic
Mordvinia Republic
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
South Orkney Island
Tatarstan Republic
Thurston Island
Ulyanovsk Oblast

Still open

Yea and I've been thinking about second thoughts about the existance of man kind in East Asia....

Hey, I can play that random claiming game too!

Brunei...yes...I claim it.

Well, we can't both have it....

I will also take the south georgia and south sandwich islands. I'll have a claiming thread up for everything later today.

STrange, it put my post above yours even though it was a response...

No claiming threads are required but you can certainly do them. I'll be making some posts in war on drugs about mine.

Maps & claims updated to this post.

I claim the following Bulgaria ,Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic,Mordvinia Republic,North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast,Mari El Republic,Adygea Republic

Wow that lasted 1 hr & 58 minutes :).

I claim the following Bulgaria ,Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic,Mordvinia Republic,North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast,Mari El Republic,Adygea Republic

Added and what's left is:

Berkner Island
Clipperton Island
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island

No claiming threads are required but you can certainly do them. I'll be making some posts in war on drugs about mine.

Maps & claims updated to this post.

I'll just do one for Mexico then.

Added and what's left is:

Berkner Island
Clipperton Island
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island

They're really small.. Should we just leave them for newbs too?

I'll claim the remaining four islands I guess:

Berkner Island
Clipperton Island
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island

They're really small.. Should we just leave them for newbs too?

They could be expanded, I think the newbs should be alright with all that abundance of land in South America.

Added and what's left is:

Berkner Island
Clipperton Island
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island

Me and Mari are going to put them for newbs too. The time frame on them will be two weeks, after which we'll make them available, possibly with some exceptions, who knows, we'll see then.

I claim the following Bulgaria ,Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic,Mordvinia Republic,North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast,Mari El Republic,Adygea Republic

I will counter claim Mordvinia

I will not have a Turkish nation infringing on Russian land not to mention former panthean land. Your position in Mordivinia puts our nation at a security risk as i would have to fight a war on two fronts we ask you to withdraw from this land in 24 hours. You may hold your other land though

I will counter claim Mordvinia

I will not have a Turkish nation infringing on Russian land not to mention former panthean land. Your position in Mordivinia puts our nation at a security risk as i would have to fight a war on two fronts we ask you to withdraw from this land in 24 hours. You may hold your other land though

meh we don't care, you can have Mordvina, but don't call us Turkish...we're a federation of compose of Persian, Turks, Arabs, Indians, Kurds,Tajiks, Greeks, and anger peoples. Just we don't like being called Turks....call us Eurasians.

meh we don't care, you can have Mordvina, but don't call us Turkish...we're a federation of compose of Persian, Turks, Arabs, Indians, Kurds,Tajiks, Greeks, and anger peoples. Just we don't like being called Turks....call us Eurasians.

Ohh well thank you that was easy. I'll take Mordivina then

My apology for the remarks though, the Ottomen name got me confused

Ohh well thank you that was easy. I'll take Mordivina then

My apology for the remarks though, the Ottomen name got me confused

No Problem

meh we don't care, you can have Mordvina, but don't call us Turkish...we're a federation of compose of Persian, Turks, Arabs, Indians, Kurds,Tajiks, Greeks, and anger peoples. Just we don't like being called Turks....call us Eurasians.

Ohh well thank you that was easy. I'll take Mordivina then

My apology for the remarks though, the Ottomen name got me confused

I'll change that eventually.

Hi, sorry I havn't been around much recently. At the moment I've got absolutely loads of work to do for college, and it's not going to lift for the forseeable future. I've decided to leave EII, probably for good this time. Whilst I'll keep my nation alive on NS, I don't really have the free time to do much else.

It's been fun RPing with you all.

Good luck in whatever your up to dude. Hope to see you back at some point.

Keep a close eye to Lost Kinsmen. Ottoman Khaif and I have cooked up something quite spectacular that links not only Killswitch Engage IV [in War on Drugs] but also Ride the Lightning!

Operation Ecstasy Rising...

The greatest chapter of Killswitch Engage yet...

It has begun... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12319814&postcount=294)

Attention Pushka

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/2097/caribbeanpb8.th.gif (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caribbeanpb8.gif)

As per Article I, II, and VI of the Doctrine of Sovereignty, the Empire shall not, under any circumstances grant permission to any Russian belligerent vessels transiting into the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico through the east. We shall not allow any Russian vessels, belligerent or not to pass through the Panama Canal. The Empire, in control of all eastern territories of the Caribbean Sea save for two, under the control of the Realm of Cotland, will take prudent action should any Russian vessel or aircraft attempt to enter the Caribbean Sea illegally. Passage will pass through Layartebian territorial waters and exclusion zones, of which both the Windward and Mona Passage are included in the latter. Any violation of this will be considered an attack against the Empire and result in a state of war being declared and all violators either turned away or destroyed.

OOC: In short, go through the Pacific to hit Mexico. There are active patrols being done by both aircraft, surface vessels, and submarines. SOSUS networks have been laid and we strictly enforce this regulation.

Hey guys, just letting ya know i'm still alive and RPing, just busy with school right now (Evil...)

Hang in there bud. There are some good RPs formulating right now and a lot of action just happened with the land grab so stay tuned.

Ottoman Khaif and I have completed a trade:

I get:

Bulgaria, Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic, North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Mari El Republic, Adygea Republic

He gets:

Armenia, Georgia

Ottoman Khaif and I have completed a trade:

I get:

Bulgaria, Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic, North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Mari El Republic, Adygea Republic

He gets:

Armenia, Georgia

I confirm this deal.

Ottoman Khaif and I have completed a trade:

I get:

Bulgaria, Bashkortostan Republic, Tatarstan Republic, North Ossetia-Alania Republic,Chuvashia Republic, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Mari El Republic, Adygea Republic

He gets:

Armenia, Georgia

I confirm this deal.

:: laughs to himself ::

Attention Pushka

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/2097/caribbeanpb8.th.gif (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caribbeanpb8.gif)

As per Article I, II, and VI of the Doctrine of Sovereignty, the Empire shall not, under any circumstances grant permission to any Russian belligerent vessels transiting into the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico through the east. We shall not allow any Russian vessels, belligerent or not to pass through the Panama Canal. The Empire, in control of all eastern territories of the Caribbean Sea save for two, under the control of the Realm of Cotland, will take prudent action should any Russian vessel or aircraft attempt to enter the Caribbean Sea illegally. Passage will pass through Layartebian territorial waters and exclusion zones, of which both the Windward and Mona Passage are included in the latter. Any violation of this will be considered an attack against the Empire and result in a state of war being declared and all violators either turned away or destroyed.

OOC: In short, go through the Pacific to hit Mexico. There are active patrols being done by both aircraft, surface vessels, and submarines. SOSUS networks have been laid and we strictly enforce this regulation.

OOC: I was planning on it anyways.

IC:

Although we have no intention of passing through Layartebian territorial waters we find this statement by the Layartebian Empire very offensive. It is noted and will be a factor if any situation arises there the Empire might inquire Russian Federation cooperation in the region. Let it be known that we do not take threats lightly. Our Navy will operate in our territorial and international waters of the Gulf of Mexico with or without approval from the Empire and any attempt to hinder those operations will be viewed as a declaration of war.

Igor Stepanov,
President of Russian Federation

Слава Федерации!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12323091#post12323091

My invasion of Mexico thread, if you'd like to know the name means "Glory to the Federation"

OH come on, no one here actually thought I wouldn't get involved in the opening of the territory touching my southern border. Im sorry Rome but im contesting your claim and sending in the 2nd Southern Army, I'll send a different force over to Lame Bums. (Basically im claiming all of what use to be Nuevo Rica)

Sorry I went missing for awhile, I got into a clan on 2142 and have been trying to boost my stats up so I can compete with the other members.

One last thing before I sign off for the night. Shouldn't we make an official mainland nation list then under that the nations colonies. Because it seems EII nations hold land just about everywhere and so its hard to tell which area is their mainland and which territories are colonies.

I don't want to sound like im dogin' on your system Lay but it seems like colonies should be always open territory under the protection of the certain nation. Like if someone comes in and decides they want to join EII they can RP a revolution in a colony or some sort of thing like that. Just a suggestion.

I officially declare war on Pushka for hiding a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. vid from me.

OOC: I was planning on it anyways.

IC:

Although we have no intention of passing through Layartebian territorial waters we find this statement by the Layartebian Empire very offensive. It is noted and will be a factor if any situation arises there the Empire might inquire Russian Federation cooperation in the region. Let it be known that we do not take threats lightly. Our Navy will operate in our territorial and international waters of the Gulf of Mexico with or without approval from the Empire and any attempt to hinder those operations will be viewed as a declaration of war.

Igor Stepanov,
President of Russian Federation

The Empire does not control or make statements to international waters but does regard its passageways as sacrosanct. Russian vessels in violation of the Doctrine of Sovereignty, especially spy vessels will be treated as hostile combatants, regardless of their location; however.

One last thing before I sign off for the night. Shouldn't we make an official mainland nation list then under that the nations colonies. Because it seems EII nations hold land just about everywhere and so its hard to tell which area is their mainland and which territories are colonies.

I don't want to sound like im dogin' on your system Lay but it seems like colonies should be always open territory under the protection of the certain nation. Like if someone comes in and decides they want to join EII they can RP a revolution in a colony or some sort of thing like that. Just a suggestion.

The first part I understand, the second part, I don't.

HELLO!!!!!! Id like to say im a prospective N.S state , unfortunatly I used to be the Warmongering zeeeland coupla years back. since then my r.pings matured a bit, (hopefully) and I have a fairly decent sized nation now..

Im interested in joining on the offchance that any land becomes available. (yarda, yarda, yarda.)

If not nevermind :)

HELLO!!!!!! Id like to say im a prospective N.S state , unfortunatly I used to be the Warmongering zeeeland coupla years back. since then my r.pings matured a bit, (hopefully) and I have a fairly decent sized nation now..

Im interested in joining on the offchance that any land becomes available. (yarda, yarda, yarda.)

If not nevermind :)
*Points to a ton of land in South America and then dissappers in smoke*

HELLO!!!!!! Id like to say im a prospective N.S state , unfortunatly I used to be the Warmongering zeeeland coupla years back. since then my r.pings matured a bit, (hopefully) and I have a fairly decent sized nation now..

Im interested in joining on the offchance that any land becomes available. (yarda, yarda, yarda.)

If not nevermind :)

Zeeeland...wow...talk about old...hehe well there's these territories available for newbies:

Argentina
Berkner Island
Brazil (Amapá)
Brazil (Bahia)
Brazil (Ceará)
Brazil (Distrito Federal)
Brazil (Espírito Santo)
Brazil (Goiás)
Brazil (Maranhão)
Brazil (Mato Grosso)
Brazil (Minas Gerais)
Brazil (Pará)
Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Piauí)
Brazil (Rio Grande do Norte)
Brazil (Roraima)
Brazil (Tocantins)
Clipperton Island
Paraguay
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island
Uruguay

If you want you can claim up one of the big ones (like Argentina, paraguary, or uruguay) and 2 or 3 of the smaller ones.

Thanks!

In which case i would like to claim Argentina,Brazil (Paraiba), and clipperton Island if thats cool.

OH come on, no one here actually thought I wouldn't get involved in the opening of the territory touching my southern border. Im sorry Rome but im contesting your claim and sending in the 2nd Southern Army, I'll send a different force over to Lame Bums. (Basically im claiming all of what use to be Nuevo Rica)

Sorry I went missing for awhile, I got into a clan on 2142 and have been trying to boost my stats up so I can compete with the other members.

My ally has the full support of the Panthean government in securing his southern boarder against the Romans. Not that i hate Rome..its just i have to look out for my Russian comrades

Zeeeland...wow...talk about old...hehe well there's these territories available for newbies:

Argentina
Berkner Island
Brazil (Amapá)
Brazil (Bahia)
Brazil (Ceará)
Brazil (Distrito Federal)
Brazil (Espírito Santo)
Brazil (Goiás)
Brazil (Maranhão)
Brazil (Mato Grosso)
Brazil (Minas Gerais)
Brazil (Pará)
Brazil (Paraíba)
Brazil (Piauí)
Brazil (Rio Grande do Norte)
Brazil (Roraima)
Brazil (Tocantins)
Clipperton Island
Paraguay
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island
Uruguay

If you want you can claim up one of the big ones (like Argentina, paraguary, or uruguay) and 2 or 3 of the smaller ones.


In addition to that, I think the Yukon and Northwest Territories are still unclaimed since the collapse of Squornshelous.

Land of Sin (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517901)

My 'Ride the Lightning'

In addition to that, I think the Yukon and Northwest Territories are still unclaimed since the collapse of Squornshelous.

Why yes they are, wow I didn't even know that, yes they are.

Heres a sample post, which I will put on my factbook when i complete it.
(BTW is my former ally kreynoria still around?)


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12323593#post12323593post12323593

Krey is around and kicking.

I officially declare war on Pushka for hiding a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. vid from me.

Hey now who introduced you to the game in the first place?

The Empire does not control or make statements to international waters but does regard its passageways as sacrosanct. Russian vessels in violation of the Doctrine of Sovereignty, especially spy vessels will be treated as hostile combatants, regardless of their location; however.

We maintain the same position on Layartebian spying vessels, that is including Sechnuct class Layartebian spy vessels.

Hey now who introduced you to the game in the first place?

I knew about it before you just not much of the details.

We maintain the same position on Layartebian spying vessels, that is including Sechnuct class Layartebian spy vessels.

The Empire continues to assert that said vessels are civilian weather vessels registered under the NGO Weather Watchers. Weather Watchers maintains active monitoring in the Caribbean Sea to monitor the warm Gulf air flow as it travels north. It maintains critical and important data on hurricane activity.

Land of Sin (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517901)

My 'Ride the Lightning'

Wow. What a way to start off, crazy man, crazy. It's nuts too because 27 years ago, the world was changing big time. The Empire was born ;).

*Somwhere in Trensk, the Trenskian King was watching this all through his Computer, eating Salt and Vinnigar Chips and drinking Coca-Cola*

In addition to that, I think the Yukon and Northwest Territories are still unclaimed since the collapse of Squornshelous.

In light of this, I shall hereby claim the Yukon. I have given the following territories to Nerotika:

Tatarstan Republic
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Mari El Republic
Adygea Republic

I shall also be releasing my Yemeni land into its natural habitat (i.e. free claim), as I am flirting with the limit (the limit's pretty, I can't help it...*shifty eyes*). I'd like it if this land went to newcomers. Thanks.

Rome, what do you want for Yukon?

The first part I understand, the second part, I don't.

Ok, let me try to explain what im thinking. After we establish whats a colony and whats the mainland of said nation all the colonies that nation owns become open territory. The nation still owns them and controls them but if a new nation comes along wanting to join Earth II they can RP revolution inside one of the colonies. Revolutions happen all the time in colonies or territories owned by far away nations so it would be adding another element of realism into EII.

(Now that i have time to do this)Example, Nation A's mainland nation is in central North America but they own a colony in asia. Nation B comes along wanting to join Earth II and so picks a territory they want their nation in which so happens to be asia. The asian colony is the perfect choice because Nation A does not have a standing military for that colony. Nation B creates a thread and RP's the asian colony revolting from Nation A. Nation A can now either send troops over to the colony to protect it from the revolution or they can allow the colony to fall and let the revolution win out.

Make sence?

I feel good about myself, im almost into the top 100 Knifers list on 2142 w00t w00t. Just trying to make Clan EVIL proud. Anyone who's into 2142 should check us out at evilclankc.com. If you look at the knifers leaderboard you'll see around 9th place a dude named KrafteX2, he's with us and hopfully a few others on the top 10 will be with us. Were gunna own the knifers realm, were small but if you go to a knifing server you'll most likly hear our name praised...sorry, completly off topic, im just excited is all.

Anyway, thanks Rome for the land. I dont want to seem pushy or anything, its just I need to expand and I was planning an invasion of Nuevo Rica anyway to get land, so this just works out.

SECRETS OF THE JUNGLE will be back soon. I have writers block on that front right now, but I'm trying!

USB, that RP is class. Can't wait for the next post.

In light of this, I shall hereby claim the Yukon. I have given the following territories to Nerotika:

Tatarstan Republic
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Mari El Republic
Adygea Republic

I shall also be releasing my Yemeni land into its natural habitat (i.e. free claim), as I am flirting with the limit (the limit's pretty, I can't help it...*shifty eyes*). I'd like it if this land went to newcomers. Thanks.

Also, for official confirmation, I accept the following territories but transfer North Ossetia over to Lame Bums (Its not accessable by Soviet Forces) and Mari El over to Pantheaa (For being a good ally). Other than that the rest is mine, and im still contesting all claims over Nuevo Rica's territory, so would that mean I have to fight the Eurasians? Im a little confused on what happened to all that land, the trades and claims have become very weird.

Japanese Heiress Revealed

In a move chastised by the Parliamentary Government, the Emperor of Japan has decided to reveal the existance of his daughter to the world. The Emperor himself, who fears that he will be needing to solidify his families rule over the Imperium, has decided that he shall be speaking with other National Monarchies for the time being. However, there is no official favoring as of yet.

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In other news - Been haveing some trouble lately with my family, so The End Times *You know, the RP no one really gives a fuck about* will be and should be recieving a new post sometime soon. Been quite a long hour... *and the three little ghosts out there who do read will get what I mean*

Just to clarify, just because I made the deal with Nerotika doesn't mean it's now "open season" on whatever land I have (I've had a few people now starting to inquire about trades with me). I really did prefer the Yukon to Russia- the Yukon really defines "Crazy Canuck" more than I could, so we're inseperable.

Anyway, thanks Rome for the land. I dont want to seem pushy or anything, its just I need to expand and I was planning an invasion of Nuevo Rica anyway to get land, so this just works out.

You're welcome.

I'll be honest, I really didn't appreciate you threatning me. I *was* willing to talk about it, and, not having done anything to you to warrant such hostility, I felt it was out of line. If ICly this had developed I would understand, but this was entirely out of the blue, especially considering I'm not the type to pick a fight.

Rome, what do you want for Yukon?

It's Canadian land, so I want to keep it. Sorry.

Yo peoples take another look at AD-142

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

It now has 7 different variations up for sale each one specialized for a particular task. Pantheaa take a look at AD-142NK "Bes" I made you a non-bullpup version. Im also planning to come out with a 6.8x48 mm and 6.8x54R versions to appease more western oriented clients. Thanks to Lay for helping me out with numbers.

on behalf of the Empire of Argentina and the dominion of Perias, we would like to re assure the world that the excrementatious Junta that seized power recently in our country has collapsed and a Argentine monarchy has been established.

Pertaining to this good news we wish to re estblish relations with all fair and decent nations of the world.

thank you for your time.

(all diplomatic offers should be addressed to the great emperor, Manuel Baribossa the 1st)

The Imperial foreign ministry.

AD-142E1 and AD-142E2 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO variations of added to the list.

on behalf of the Empire of Argentina and the dominion of Perias, we would like to re assure the world that the excrementatious Junta that seized power recently in our country has collapsed and a Argentine monarchy has been established.

Pertaining to this good news we wish to re estblish relations with all fair and decent nations of the world.

thank you for your time.

(all diplomatic offers should be addressed to the great emperor, Manuel Baribossa the 1st)

The Imperial foreign ministry.

We congratulate you on your success in establishing order to your country. Russian Federation fully recognizes your state's sovereignty and we would like to establish diplomatic relations with your nation. Perhaps as a first step an embassy exchange is in order we are prepared to give you a building for your embassy in our capitol, Voronej.

Signed,

Alexandr Berkut,
Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russian Federation

I shall also be releasing my Yemeni land into its natural habitat (i.e. free claim), as I am flirting with the limit (the limit's pretty, I can't help it...*shifty eyes*). I'd like it if this land went to newcomers. Thanks.

I here by declare my claim on the ex-Roman Yemeni lands

Also, for official confirmation, I accept the following territories but transfer North Ossetia over to Lame Bums (Its not accessable by Soviet Forces) and Mari El over to Pantheaa (For being a good ally). Other than that the rest is mine, and im still contesting all claims over Nuevo Rica's territory, so would that mean I have to fight the Eurasians? Im a little confused on what happened to all that land, the trades and claims have become very weird.

Umm..no...I have no lands in Russia so just you don't have to fight us.

I here by declare my claim on the ex-Roman Yemeni lands

I would like to counter claim that claim, either war or compromise (might be splitting the land between us), Ottoman which would you prefer?

I would like to counter claim that claim, either war or compromise (might be splitting the land between us), Ottoman which would you prefer?

Actually not really worth war atm..you can have it.

wow that was easy lol, well I wouldn't want it to be like that, lets just split them evenly amongst the two of us.

wow that was easy lol, well I wouldn't want it to be like that, lets just split them evenly amongst the two of us.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/yemen.jpg
All I'll take the northern half and you take the southern half, so in other ways, I get all the lands from 10 and up

that works.

To make it clear for Lay

I get:

1,2,3,4,13,14,18,19

Ottoman Khaif gets:

5,8,9,10, 12, 15,16 and 17

Also with my new land claims and some time passing (and a butch of babies coming in) I would like to raise my population to 470 million.

To make it clear for Lay

I get:

1,2,3,4,13,14,18,19

Ottoman Khaif gets:

5,8,9,10, 12, 15,16 and 17

I confirm this

James will deal with these updates another day, he's too tired tonight.

Ok, let me try to explain what im thinking. After we establish whats a colony and whats the mainland of said nation all the colonies that nation owns become open territory. The nation still owns them and controls them but if a new nation comes along wanting to join Earth II they can RP revolution inside one of the colonies. Revolutions happen all the time in colonies or territories owned by far away nations so it would be adding another element of realism into EII.

(Now that i have time to do this)Example, Nation A's mainland nation is in central North America but they own a colony in asia. Nation B comes along wanting to join Earth II and so picks a territory they want their nation in which so happens to be asia. The asian colony is the perfect choice because Nation A does not have a standing military for that colony. Nation B creates a thread and RP's the asian colony revolting from Nation A. Nation A can now either send troops over to the colony to protect it from the revolution or they can allow the colony to fall and let the revolution win out.

Make sence?

Unless Nation A gave permission for such a thing it would be godmodding, unfortunately.

Yo peoples take another look at AD-142

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517036

It now has 7 different variations up for sale each one specialized for a particular task. Pantheaa take a look at AD-142NK "Bes" I made you a non-bullpup version. Im also planning to come out with a 6.8x48 mm and 6.8x54R versions to appease more western oriented clients. Thanks to Lay for helping me out with numbers.

6.8 x 48mm won't be doable. It's a pure EOL version and the only country that's received them is Cotland, it's not exported.

Well that just solves that problem, if only Cot has it then there is no reason to make a modification just for it, there is still 6.4 and I might develop 6.8x54.

Heh, i'v just learnt to use Bitmap on Paint. ^_^ I can now colour in maps. :P Ohhhh...

Anyways, i'm just sitting here, drinking my Cola and trying to relax, next week i don't have any School. *Fanfare* ^_^

You're welcome.

I'll be honest, I really didn't appreciate you threatning me. I *was* willing to talk about it, and, not having done anything to you to warrant such hostility, I felt it was out of line. If ICly this had developed I would understand, but this was entirely out of the blue, especially considering I'm not the type to pick a fight.

Im sorry, I didn't want to seem threatning like I want war its just, your a large nation and I bet anything if we did I would loose. If anything I dont want war its just I wasn't thinking it through, next time I'll talk things over instead of military action. The thing is though, I signed on and saw this and immediatly thought I would need to invade to take the land, but after I read things through I noticed you had taken it, but I had already written the post down...and im lazy, not just regular lazy but LLLLLAAAAZZZZYYYYY so I didn't rewrite anything and left it. Sorry bout that, next time i'll think it through though, hopfully we can end up on good terms.

Unless Nation A gave permission for such a thing it would be godmodding, unfortunately.

I don't understand how that would be godmodding, all you need to do is lay down revolutionary rules. Guidlines and such, thats all. Eh w/e can you at least explain to me how this is godmodding please.

I don't understand how that would be godmodding, all you need to do is lay down revolutionary rules. Guidlines and such, thats all. Eh w/e can you at least explain to me how this is godmodding please.

Because you're doing something inside of a nation without that user's request. It's one thing to embargo or invade a nation, because although it'll affect the other nation, it's still an action that comes entirely from your people- how the nation reacts to the embargo or invasion is up to them. However, a revolution is different- you're RPing the actions of someone else's people and that's godmodding. Yes I may have territories everywhere, but that doesn't mean that in places other than Latium, Latin America and Canada (which are essentially my core areas) everyone's angry at having Roman rule. If I run a system that adequately addresses my people's needs, then I probably won't have a lot of anger brewing in my peripheral areas (and thus no revolutions). Furthermore, what's to prevent me from RPing that in all those areas there are Romans- I'm well within my rights to do so. In fact, that's why I went after Latin America- they're practically Roman anyway. That doesn't mean the rest of it is Roman- other people have those lands and I can't RP their demographics, because they control what they are, just how I control my own demographics.

Case in point: when Celtayoshi controlled Canada he made them play soccer- now, as a Canadian myself, I really wanted to point out that soccer really isn't that big of a deal here and that they're more likely to play hockey; but I didn't control Canada at the time, he did, so if he wanted to make them play soccer he could. If I wanted to change things, I had to take control, which is what I did when he left, and I did change things (may keep the soccer thing, because I'm a big fan myself). The bottom line is that you can't make things happen inside someone else's nation without their approval, because it's their territory and people

Im sorry, I didn't want to seem threatning like I want war its just, your a large nation and I bet anything if we did I would loose. If anything I dont want war its just I wasn't thinking it through, next time I'll talk things over instead of military action. The thing is though, I signed on and saw this and immediatly thought I would need to invade to take the land, but after I read things through I noticed you had taken it, but I had already written the post down...and im lazy, not just regular lazy but LLLLLAAAAZZZZYYYYY so I didn't rewrite anything and left it. Sorry bout that, next time i'll think it through though, hopfully we can end up on good terms.

It's okay. I've put it behind me as far as I'm concerned. I understand you were probably upset that you missed out on land- and believe me, I know because I've missed out a lot of times (in fact, I only got that land because of a trade, not because I actually snagged it)- but E2 land grabs are a waiting game. It literally took me years to build what I have, and it wasn't easy- lots of trades, lots of compromise and lots of patience. Just hang in there and trust me more land is going to open up.

We congratulate you on your success in establishing order to your country. Russian Federation fully recognizes your state's sovereignty and we would like to establish diplomatic relations with your nation. Perhaps as a first step an embassy exchange is in order we are prepared to give you a building for your embassy in our capitol, Voronej.

Signed,

Alexandr Berkut,
Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russian Federation

That would be most acceptable... in due reciprocation we have allocated you a fine embassy in Pleasant Buenos Aires....

anticipating furthyer favourable diplomatic ventures in the near future.

Thank you for your time.

Emperor Manuel Baribossa I

Argentine Empire.

Today isn' my day. Got a notice saying that I now owe another $300 to NYDMV for some Driver's Responsibility Assessment because I was found guilty of my speeding ticket. So not only did I have to pay that fine now I have another $300 to pay. What a crock of unconstitutional shit!

Yea, in N.Z we have 3 type of driving license and you get charged with reckless driving in accordance with each ones safe driving criteria. ho hum.. everyones and idiot on the road except me:)

I stick to that principle everyday.


anyways I digress..

Tadaaa heres my Factbook. (still working on it, but here peeps can ICly contact me without posting on main thread.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12330391#post12330391post12330391

Yea, in N.Z we have 3 type of driving license and you get charged with reckless driving in accordance with each ones safe driving criteria. ho hum.. everyones and idiot on the road except me:)

I stick to that principle everyday.


anyways I digress..

Tadaaa heres my Factbook. (still working on it, but here peeps can ICly contact me without posting on main thread.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12330391#post12330391post12330391

They're double fining me. I found out that they give it if you are convicted of a drug or alcohol driving incident, you refuse a chemical test (isn't that your Constitutional right?), or you get more than 6 pts in a 18 month period (my dilemma). This is beyond excessive and this shit HAS to stop.

bit of a catch 22 huh?:( damned if you do and damned if you dont)

I thought our rules were stringent

(Im actually glad we dont have a contitution now, Perse, so you dont have to "violate it" then again if we had a less stable government someone could do something bad with this loophole, technically right now the Queen could walk right in here and kick out P.M. interesting huh?)

Official Communiqué to Argentine

The Realm of Cotland hereby officially recognize the Argentine Empire to be a free and sovereign nation state, and welcome it to the world. We hope your presence on this planet will be a peaceful one, and we wish to promote such hopes by offering official diplomatic relations to the Argentine Empire on the condition that we be offered the same in return.

[signed]
The Realm of Cotland

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Bah. I told you a while ago Lay. Appealing only makes them give you more punishment, just or not. Anyway, fight the bastards. Power to the people, death to the beurocracy, Viva la Revolution etc etc etc. :: walks away, muttering "whatever" :: ;)

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Bah. I told you a while ago Lay. Appealing only makes them give you more punishment, just or not. Anyway, fight the bastards. Power to the people, death to the beurocracy, Viva la Revolution etc etc etc. :: walks away :: ;)

This would have happened regardless if I showed up or not. If I didn't show up I would have had a $300 fine plus this $300 versus $140 plus this $300.

They're double fining me. I found out that they give it if you are convicted of a drug or alcohol driving incident, you refuse a chemical test (isn't that your Constitutional right?), or you get more than 6 pts in a 18 month period (my dilemma). This is beyond excessive and this shit HAS to stop.

One thing I love about Americans - they so quickly denounce things they don't like as "unconstitutional" - as if a slip of paper guarantees your right to exist. That's one of the many problems with modern society [not just America either...] today - it constrains itself to slips of paper that sometimes mean so little in the long run. For example - grades. I hate them beyond belief, because it's simply someone's evaluation of what you can do to take a class and pass in that class - nothing about making that stuff applicable or useful. Money - the uniform currency that makes everything about as worth as what people perceive them to be worth. And not so much on paper, but equally thin and slovenly - cards. If the majority of the people around here cared enough about things, I'd probably rise in rejection to the whole system - but sometimes, the system is just something that hinders your ability to reform it [if not destroy it...].

If you need proof, ask the IRS, come the Ides of April.

One thing I love about Americans - they so quickly denounce things they don't like as "unconstitutional" - as if a slip of paper guarantees your right to exist. That's one of the many problems with modern society [not just America either...] today - it constrains itself to slips of paper that sometimes mean so little in the long run. For example - grades. I hate them beyond belief, because it's simply someone's evaluation of what you can do to take a class and pass in that class - nothing about making that stuff applicable or useful. Money - the uniform currency that makes everything about as worth as what people perceive them to be worth. And not so much on paper, but equally thin and slovenly - cards. If the majority of the people around here cared enough about things, I'd probably rise in rejection to the whole system - but sometimes, the system is just something that hinders your ability to reform it [if not destroy it...].

If you need proof, ask the IRS, come the Ides of April.

It's double jeopardy, I'm being penalized for the same offense twice from a law that is equal to or more than the already imposed fine. The maximum fine for 6 pts is $300 + $50 surcharge (court fee nonsense). So instead of a $300 fine it's really $650 with this...I paid the minimum fine but regardless, I paid the fine. Now I have to pay an additional fine? That is nonsense and excessive...

It's double jeopardy, I'm being penalized for the same offense twice from a law that is equal to or more than the already imposed fine. The maximum fine for 6 pts is $300 + $50 surcharge (court fee nonsense). So instead of a $300 fine it's really $650 with this...I paid the minimum fine but regardless, I paid the fine. Now I have to pay an additional fine? That is nonsense and excessive...

If by the law, it says that you are not liable to such charges, then you should act upon it - the Constitution is not going to defend you if trouble should come to you. The contract of your citizenship is written, but simply as it is, you must be actively defending your own rights as citizen or otherwise let the state what it wills with you. If it is nonsense and excessive by the very laws you ascent, then act upon it and change the status quo. If it isn't but should, make way for reform. The government is only what you make it out to be - otherwise, it becomes a tacit dictatorship.

If by the law, it says that you are not liable to such charges, then you should act upon it - the Constitution is not going to defend you if trouble should come to you. The contract of your citizenship is written, but simply as it is, you must be actively defending your own rights as citizen or otherwise let the state what it wills with you. If it is nonsense and excessive by the very laws you ascent, then act upon it and change the status quo. If it isn't but should, make way for reform. The government is only what you make it out to be - otherwise, it becomes a tacit dictatorship.

Trust me I'm not standing around on this one.

Today isn' my day. Got a notice saying that I now owe another $300 to NYDMV for some Driver's Responsibility Assessment because I was found guilty of my speeding ticket. So not only did I have to pay that fine now I have another $300 to pay. What a crock of unconstitutional shit!

Is it something like "if you commit X amount of the same offence, you'll get another fine on top of that"?

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Is it something like "if you commit X amount of the same offence, you'll get another fine on top of that"?

Yes.

You must pay the driver responsibility assessment if any of the following incidents occur in NYS:


you are convicted of an alcohol-related traffic violation and the violation occurred on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
you are convicted of a drug-related traffic violation and the violation occurred on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
a DMV hearing determines that you refused a chemical test and the refusal occurred on or after November 18, 2004 (includes boats and snowmobiles); or
you receive six or more points on your NYS driver record during a period of 18 months and the violations occurred on or after November 18, 2004.



As much as I detest # 1 & # 2 it's still a second penalty onto the already given one by the court. #3 is your constitutional right so they're penalizing you for exercising it (that's bullcrap). # 4 is me.

http://www.nysdmv.com/drp.htm

It appears that my Skiing holiday is off, so im going to have some time to restart RPing the Great Gangrape of Spizania. We may be outnumbered several dozen to one, but we will emerge victorious, for we are the Spizani, the Greatest Warriors the World has ever seen (corny i know :P).
LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERATE STATES, and may Liberty persist until the end of days

Yes.



As much as I detest # 1 & # 2 it's still a second penalty onto the already given one by the court. #3 is your constitutional right so they're penalizing you for exercising it (that's bullcrap). # 4 is me.

http://www.nysdmv.com/drp.htm

That doesn't sound right- I could understand it if you accumulated six points over 18 months, paid that fine, and then did it again. Paying for it twice on the first offence is excessive.

That doesn't sound right- I could understand it if you accumulated six points over 18 months, paid that fine, and then did it again. Paying for it twice on the first offence is excessive.

Then you'd have 12 and suspension is at 11. They'd hit you with the suspension fee, the fine fee, the points, the court fees, and then this DRA. You'd be done with $1000+!

Even if it's 12 after 36 months?

Oh no...If you accumulate over 11 in a single 18 month period you get suspended. Sorry misunderstood.

Then you'd have 12 and suspension is at 11. They'd hit you with the suspension fee, the fine fee, the points, the court fees, and then this DRA. You'd be done with $1000+!

Even if it's 12 after 36 months?

Holy crap we just had like 10 inches of snow in Ohio..didn't have to go to classes today :)


Thanks for the terroritory Nero..i confirm it (i don't know if i have to do that or not).

Oh man, it just makes me love ND motor vehicle laws all that much more... Speeding over 5MPH over the limit results in a fine of $5 plus $1 per MPH past that [so a $1 per MPH over the limit]. But I think for every 10 MPH over you get one point deducted from your license [12 points total]. Of course some idiot Fargo Democrat is trying to force the state to adopt Fargo's excessive speeding fines (at least to us its excessive; $80 minimum; which still isn't bad compared to Minnesota's unGodly stuff). Thankfully, the rural-dominated ND legislature has been shooting down Fargo legislators' things this entire session... Fargo's going to ruin this state.

Yo Lay a bit of a problem here, I claimed Juan de Nova island and its mine on the claims list yet on the map its Brinkan.

Syracuse University cancelled classes for the first time in 14 years...madness. Sounds a lot like York University, maybe better- I doubt they cancelled classes today.

How much snow did I get in Alliston? Maybe an inch, that's it (we got lucky- the storm went directly below us). Just about the only positive thing about living in this town...

Yo Lay a bit of a problem here, I claimed Juan de Nova island and its mine on the claims list yet on the map its Brinkan.

Actually it's not on the map. It's between Madagascar and the mainland so I'll have to add a box to it.

Well Ascensión (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509447) is done. It's short and ends rather abruptly but it's got a lot in it.

Actually it's not on the map. It's between Madagascar and the mainland so I'll have to add a box to it.

Alrighty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srivijaya

^ I'm curious about how many people have heard of that Empire. Seems to have been just as durable and dominant as ancient Rome, if not more. Just found out about it today actually. Interesting stuff.