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Due to all the science and space related stuff popping up lately, I've thought about resurrecting the Earth II International Space Program. Would anyone be interested?

Yes, I would. It would propel my nation to stop worrying about surface ordnance and start putting up some reconaissance sattelite, and then my vaunted ABM system.

Due to all the science and space related stuff popping up lately, I've thought about resurrecting the Earth II International Space Program. Would anyone be interested?

I'll do it.

I'll do it.

So will I.

The here it is
The new international space program (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446636)

The Macabees: Alright done.

Neuvo Rica: Alright post that RP when you get it.

TIOR/Cotland: Alright just to clear everything up. What lands were traded for what and to who? Also if you are going to be your puppet please post as your puppet because it gets really confusing when you don't.

Layarteb: Everything looks good on my land list the only thing missing from it is Gibraltar.


-Hawdawg

Because this thread is constantly getting larger and my message keeps on getting bumped back to hell, I'll ask once again. Are you willing to sell Papua New Guinea? Tell me the price, and I'll pay for it.

Hawdawg and I have reached a deal: he gets Texas, I get US$9 trillion, Brownsville (that's where the Gulf of Mexico and the border between Texas and Mexico meet up) and Western Sahara.

EDIT:

I believe I have found the motherlode of all maps. It's a map of where *all* the oilfields (as well as natural gas reserves) are in the world and how much they have left. You can see it here:

http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/documents/ahlbrandt/images/usgs.pdf

Now, I'm not sure if it's *entirely* correct (considering that the Arctic isn't covered), but it's the best map I've found.

Please post the thread in my sig (history of bjornoya) and no new thread is neccesary since Cameroon is already being RPed in African Bloom.

Fine I'll just do Sierra Leone. I'll get Cameroon later.

Okay TLS, this is what EII Xinjiang looks like:


Population: 95 million (approx.)

85,500,000 Han Chinese
9,500,000 Turkic ethnicities*


*The Uighur ethnic group was seen as the largest threat to Xinjiang's continued existence as part of Zhonghua; as a result, many of them were either forcibly dispersed throughout Zhonghua or simply 'disappeared'. It should be kept in mind that the PRC was in the process of colonising Xinjiang when they were overthrown by the combined efforts of the NeoSuunist Revolution and the invasion by the Rosians; once established, Zhonghua simply increased the efficiency, speed and size of the operation. Eventually the Zhonghuan government plans to have removed all Turkic ethnicities from the region.

The Turkic ethnicities that remain have been dispersed throughout the Xinjiang region to ensure that the Han constitute the majority in all districts. The Zhonghuan government has invested heavily in Xinjiang to ensure its economic viability; as one of Zhonghua's main oil and gas production areas, it is extremely well-guarded by both the armed forces and the secret police.

If there are any doubts regarding the Han population, keep in mind that the population of Zhonghua is over three times that of RL China. Before anyone asks, the Zhonghuan government is harsh enough to have removed the numbers needed to pull off that kind of population redistribution, all in the name of progress. In my timeline it's been about 10-15 years since Zhonghua got their hands on Xinjiang.

Fine I'll just do Sierra Leone. I'll get Cameroon later.

oh really? We will have to see about that...

Nuevo Rica, I don't know if you have any land in the Pacific, but if you do, I'm willing to trade that with you in exchange for full military support in Africa. It might not seem like a big trade off to you, but trust me, it is. I'll also put in the money you want for that land.

Quick thread for Celtayoshi: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9714527#post9714527

Cheap post, but gets the job done.

@Maccabees, sorry, we have no land in the Pacific, but I would gladly sign an alliance with you. Seeing as I have no political commitments since I returned.

@Celtayoshi: Sorry, that wasn't threat - but was you comment directed at Sierra leone now or Cameroon later?

Anyone willing to exchange military bases, it'd be nice to have something in each of the following areas:
North (Arctic circle area)
N. America
S. America
Med. Sea
N. Africa
S. Africa

We would exchage for bases in any of the following:
India
Antarctica
Middle East (especially RL Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, and Iran)
I might be willing to let you establish a small naval base in Finnmark, Norway in exchange for a base in Iraq. Perhaps near Basra or something?

TIOR/Cotland: Alright just to clear everything up. What lands were traded for what and to who? Also if you are going to be your puppet please post as your puppet because it gets really confusing when you don't.
I traded Monaco to TIORs puppet in exchange for Wake Island. Simple, really.

@Celtayoshi: Sorry, that wasn't threat - but was you comment directed at Sierra leone now or Cameroon later?

Sierra Leone now...

lol, tell you what, Bjornoya and I agreed a deal to partition Cameroon, perhaps we can work out a similar agreement for Sierra Leone.

NAANP allies: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9714527#post9714527

I might be willing to let you establish a small naval base in Finnmark, Norway in exchange for a base in Iraq. Perhaps near Basra or something?
Finnmark would be good, but, I would suggest picking somewhere other than Basra. By land, theres a massive distance to the nearest foreign border. By sea, the nearest other nation is the Germanian Munsandam peninsula on the other side of the Gulf. By air, you could get to the Greenmanbry border in Arabia, but theres plenty of better spots. If you're not looking for a naval base, Rutbah or a city in Kurdistan (Iraqi provinces of Dahuk, Ninawa, As Sulelymaniyah, and At Tamim). If you want a spot on the Gulf, the area around Doha is good, as is Bandar e-Lengeh in Iran, Salwa in Arabia, or Ruways in the UAE. Cities in N. Iran would be good for the 'Stans, the Causcaus, or the Caspian sea. Basra just doesnt give you the reach to atack anyone. You can take it if you want though. Either way, id like to make sure i have a consulate in the province/state/nearest big city to my base, and if you could put one in the capital of the Sultanate you choose (ie Tehran, Baghdad, Mosul, Riyadh)

Any further discussion should prbably go in my international relations thread.

Elephantum: I'd be willing to allow you to set up a base at Sassari if you'll let me have a base at the Strait of Hormuz, preferrably on the UAE side, so I can have an outlet for the oil that comes out of Ghawar field.

Would Ajman do? On the Persian Gulf side of the UAE, just north of Dubai. If you could put a consulate in Dubai and an embassy in Manama, and I put one in Rome and the capital of Sardinia, then its fine.

ANY EMBASSY/BASE RELATED THINGS SHOULD PREFERABLY GO TO THE LINK IN MY SIG FROM NOW ON

Would Ajman do? On the Persian Gulf side of the UAE, just north of Dubai. If you could put a consulate in Dubai and an embassy in Manama, and I put one in Rome and the capital of Sardinia, then its fine.

ANY EMBASSY/BASE RELATED THINGS SHOULD PREFERABLY GO TO THE LINK IN MY SIG FROM NOW ON

That works (though the capital of Sardinia- Cagliari, or Caralis, is owned by Carthage. Sassari will be my capital, however).

That works (though the capital of Sardinia- Cagliari, or Caralis, is owned by Carthage. Sassari will be my capital, however).
Ok then, I'll go update the thread now

New thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446806 (A Series of New Developments Announced)

It's for my main nation on the NS Earth, but it will affect my territories here too. As a special note, for any lands that I do not own on E2 (such as Provence) the announcement will not affect them at all, because this will affect just what I control and is not meant to be "an extension" of Roman soverignty.

Cagilari was re-named "Hannibalia" by the Carthaginians, so that's what it should be referred to from now on.

Just thought ye should know.

Cagilari was re-named "Hannibalia" by the Carthaginians, so that's what it should be referred to from now on.

Just thought ye should know.
oh great, another random factoid. Just put it in the growing pile.

Hey, RomeW I think it's going to become quite obvious that you're next in my list of Pacific expansions, although I am still at war with Celtayoshi, and it will be at least two weeks before that's over.

However, to avoid bloodshed and a long roleplay, I offer you as much money as you want for all of your Pacific islands.

oh great, another random factoid. Just put it in the growing pile.

I have alot of random factoids :D

I could list every Carthaginian Emperor if you would like :)

Layarteb: Just confirming the trade with Rome. He gets 9 Trillion Western Sahara and Brownsville and I get my home state.

Celtayoshi: Where the heck are those islands The Macabees are invading at?

Rome: Let me know when you want to start the RPing thing we discussed about Texas

Cotland: Check your TG


-Hawdawg

Check the map given by Layarteb. Hawdawg, are you ignoring my request to by Papua New Guinea, or genuinely keep missing it? Also, I'm allied to both Pyschotika and Cotland, which I think are both your allies, so we do have some common diplomatic ties between us.

Sorry I missed it.

Papau New Guinea is not for sale.


-Hawdawg

Hey Elephantum:

Is there anyway I could buy Sistan and Baluchistan Province from you??(It's in Iran, BTW). You see, that's the last province I need before I can make the Republic of Baluchistan, as I already have the Afghanistan and Pakistani parts.

Hey, RomeW I think it's going to become quite obvious that you're next in my list of Pacific expansions, although I am still at war with Celtayoshi, and it will be at least two weeks before that's over.

However, to avoid bloodshed and a long roleplay, I offer you as much money as you want for all of your Pacific islands.

are you really sure picking a fight with me was the best way to start a pacific conquest?

Lay, check African Bloom to see how Cameroon will be split.
and N Rico needs to be fixed on first page (color and stuff)

TLS, how about in exchange for the Andaman and Nicobar islands and Palau i give you it?


ALL MESC MEMBERS

there is an embargo proposal at the forum

Lay, check African Bloom to see how Cameroon will be split.
and N Rico needs to be fixed on first page (color and stuff)

Post the split here.

Cameroon Division as follows:

Celtayoshi High Command willing to negotiate Cameroon Border as follows ( provinces named by capital city, using this map http://cameroon.africa-atlas.com/pi...eroon-map.gif):

Celtayoshi - Maroua, Garoua, Ngaoundéré, Yaoundé, Bafousam, Buea.
Bjornoya - Bertoua, Ebolowa

Douala will be awarded to Bjornoya, but the capital city Douala shall be given to Celtayoshi, with a major motorway to link it with Buea built by Celtayoshi.

Hawdawg: Being in control of the UK means Gibralter but if you want me to add it separately I can. This means you can sell just that piece in the future.

RomeW/Hawdawg: Texas is placed on the map as such. Land area has been distributed as stated.

Elephantum: Did you see the map RomeW posted? If not, here is the PDF (http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/documents/ahlbrandt/images/usgs.pdf). Does it help you with the whole oil thingy that you do?

Celtayoshi/Bjornya: err go by this map. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Cameroon. The way I have it is up now. Let me know who has the two unheld ones. Wiki doesn't have a good map for Sierra Leone so I don't know what you want to do with that. It has three provinces and one district. If you find a good map let me know and I'll use it.

TLS, how about in exchange for the Andaman and Nicobar islands and Palau i give you it?


ALL MESC MEMBERS

there is an embargo proposal at the forum

Deal!

are you really sure picking a fight with me was the best way to start a pacific conquest?

Yes, I have extreme confidence in my abilities to defeat any nation in the Pacific currently there.

Yes, I have extreme confidence in my abilities to defeat any nation in the Pacific currently there.

Errr, New Caledonia doesn't have alot of resources, my friend.

Yes, NS statistics play a role in EII. But so do RL statistics.

And not to mention, if you get TOO agressive, all the countries in the Pacific will try to beat the snot out of you. And you don't exactly have an easily-defendable position.

And Elephantum: Would it be ok if I kept control of a small part of Palau for military purposes?

How about I control all the little Islands, and you control the big one.

Here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Ps-map.jpg) is a map.

Alternatively, you could lease Koror to me for a period of time.

And another thing: If anyone is willing to sell some Pacific Islands to me, I have deep pockets.

Errr, New Caledonia doesn't have alot of resources, my friend.

Yes, NS statistics play a role in EII. But so do RL statistics.

And not to mention, if you get TOO agressive, all the countries in the Pacific will try to beat the snot out of you. And you don't exactly have an easily-defendable position.


Unfortunately, I think that it would take the combined militaries of all Pacific nations to defeat me - yes, I' that pompous and confident in ability to win. The resources of New Caledonia don't matter to me - they have the resources to expand to small Pacific islands, which is what I'm doing. I don't have a navy, although it's being built in Japan, a fairly large ally of mine, and they're probably my largest trade partner.

Nonetheless, I have a fairly positive outlook on the conclusion of Mesmerize, which includes me owning all of what Celtayoshi owns in the Pacific, and if Cotland continues his belligerence, all of what he owns.

The Macabees: I'd be willing to sell you everything I have in the Pacific except New Britain and Vanuatu. Name your price.

The Macabees: I'd be willing to sell you everything I have in the Pacific except New Britain and Vanuatu. Name your price.

So, the Solomon Islands? I'll offer you 1.2 trillion USD, which would be part of the 14 trillion I waste every year - that way I'll only waste 13 trillion :P .

So, the Solomon Islands? I'll offer you 1.2 trillion USD, which would be part of the 14 trillion I waste every year - that way I'll only waste 13 trillion :P .

Deal.

I also own the Kermandec Islands, which I'll also sell for an additional $300 billion.

Deal.

I also own the Kermandec Islands, which I'll also sell for an additional $300 billion.


Good enough, 1.5 trillion total it is. Consider the money yours.

Good enough, 1.5 trillion total it is. Consider the money yours.

Can I also have an agreement guaranteeing me unconditional passage from New Britain to Vanuatu?

What Should I do.

Yelm is not here.

He is absent for 16 days.

Most Recent Government Activity: 16 days ago

Can I also have an agreement guaranteeing me unconditional passage from New Britain to Vanuatu?


Of course.

Of course.

*thumbs up*

Awww, no one wants to sell me stuff.

*cry*

TLS, I'll take Koror and the Andaman and Nicobar islands. You take Baluchistan

I HAVE A PRESENT FOR YOU!!!

This thing took me like an hour to make. I had 15 images to place together but they all overlapped so it wasn't that easy. You can open it with an image editor and make a line. 1 inch is 72 pixels which is 434 statue miles. Please use it...The actual file is like 3.2 meg so be patient and save it to your PC so you don't swarm my bandwidth. It's from World War II but the islands are still there so yeah, no complaining.



http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Temp/pacificocean-preview.gif (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Temp/pacificocean.jpg)

Who has the Bismarck Archipelago then? If it's open, it's mine.

EDIT: New Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9721733#post9721733

(It deals with my new territory in Western Sahara)

Celtayoshi/Bjornya: err go by this map. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Cameroon. The way I have it is up now. Let me know who has the two unheld ones. Wiki doesn't have a good map for Sierra Leone so I don't know what you want to do with that. It has three provinces and one district. If you find a good map let me know and I'll use it.

Everything's alright excpet he owns 7 and I own 5 (with the exception of a coastal city, the region's captial)
And Nuevo Rico's name is still screwy on the front page (and he doesn't own Cameroon)

Nonetheless, I have a fairly positive outlook on the conclusion of Mesmerize, which includes me owning all of what Celtayoshi owns in the Pacific, and if Cotland continues his belligerence, all of what he owns.
Dude, you know that I'd rather nuke you than surrender my islands, right? I might be willing to loose Wake Island and Pitcairn, but not French Polynesia. If you try to take them, expect a lot of bad things to happen. Also, you don't have that large of a population in E2, right?

TLS, I'll take Koror and the Andaman and Nicobar islands. You take Baluchistan

Agreed!

Dude, you know that I'd rather nuke you than surrender my islands, right? I might be willing to loose Wake Island and Pitcairn, but not French Polynesia. If you try to take them, expect a lot of bad things to happen. Also, you don't have that large of a population in E2, right?

Wow, you are that unwilling to lose? In the long run if you nuke me, you yourself will be nuked as well - that's just an underscoring of horrible roleplay when you use unconditional nukes.

Population doesn't really matter to me. I roleplay with realistic numbers regardless of my population, and I never field multi-million man armies, ever; so that shouldn't be a problem.

Wow, you are that unwilling to lose? In the long run if you nuke me, you yourself will be nuked as well - that's just an underscoring of horrible roleplay when you use unconditional nukes.
I've got no problem with you taking Wake or Pitcairn (as long as you roleplay it well), I just don't want to part with Polynesia. I was ready to go to war with Kreynoria over it, and I've wanted it for ages. I've finally got it, and there's no chance in hell I'm gonna let all effort be blown to shit just cuz you want some land. Just keep that in mind. I'd rather nuke the islands, making them unhospitable to anyone rather than surrender them to anyone. Just so we understand eachother.

I won't ever surrender my Islands, never, I am as stubborn as Ian Paisley. Even If I have to fly my entire army halfway round the world I will.

Unfortunately, Wake isn't my jurisdiction, it's Japan's. If he wants it he can take it, but I'm not going to waste blood for something that in the end he wants.

Just in case anoyne cares, Koror has been merged with Antarctica to form the Sultanate of small states, which is currently ruled by the military. Each rules itself as its own Sultanate, but they share a Sultan, currently Mumarth e-Thalith, for all intents and purposes.

What Should I do?

Yelm is not here.

He is absent for 16 days.

Most Recent Government Activity: 16 days ago

After posting this, and no one objected.. I shall continue my forces through tanzania.

After posting this, and no one objected.. I shall continue my forces through tanzania.

If you read the charter it says that after 21 days of NS inactivity they are free-game for claiming via RP and if they are placed on Decree 12 then also. Yelm has, as far as I am aware, neither. So you can continue your RP all you want but until he goes to 21 days you can't do squat about it because you cannot RP his troops, you can only do that after the 21st day.

Celtayoshi/Bjornya: err go by this map. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Cameroon. The way I have it is up now. Let me know who has the two unheld ones. Wiki doesn't have a good map for Sierra Leone so I don't know what you want to do with that. It has three provinces and one district. If you find a good map let me know and I'll use it.

Everything's alright excpet he owns 7 and I own 5 (with the exception of a coastal city, the region's captial)
And Nuevo Rico's name is still screwy on the front page (and he doesn't own Cameroon)

Wow, you are that unwilling to lose? In the long run if you nuke me, you yourself will be nuked as well - that's just an underscoring of horrible roleplay when you use unconditional nukes.

Listen: Most everyone your planning to attack is in an alliance with other people. You attack them, you have at least 5 countries coming after you. Not to mention all the other countries that will be coming down on you.

And besides, Cotland is a member of the October Alliance. The only alliances that has even a chance of standing up to that is the tattered remnants of the Roman Confederacy(which is about 3 countries, but very well off ones, including myself), and the Middle East Stability Coalition.

Listen: Most everyone your planning to attack is in an alliance with other people. You attack them, you have at least 5 countries coming after you. Not to mention all the other countries that will be coming down on you.

And besides, Cotland is a member of the October Alliance. The only alliances that has even a chance of standing up to that is the tattered remnants of the Roman Confederacy(which is about 3 countries, but very well off ones, including myself), and the Middle East Stability Coalition.

I try to be moddest but these guys don't help ;)

TLS you have AIM?

I will update the thread a little later, after dinner.

Reminding Lay since I talked to him on AIM about it....

you gave Hawdawg the Wrong island, it is the Eastern half he has. The Western Half is mine still. ( That was part of the trade, Papua New Guiana for Okinawa )

Listen: Most everyone your planning to attack is in an alliance with other people. You attack them, you have at least 5 countries coming after you. Not to mention all the other countries that will be coming down on you.

And besides, Cotland is a member of the October Alliance. The only alliances that has even a chance of standing up to that is the tattered remnants of the Roman Confederacy(which is about 3 countries, but very well off ones, including myself), and the Middle East Stability Coalition.


You're funny. It's very obvious that you will be incredibly suprised after this war. I fear no group of nations; that's how much confidence I have. You can have ten nations after me, and I still won't waiver.

OOC: Eh, I think you have pretty much ten nations on your ass already. Eleven when NG gets back on. Anyway, keep off Polynesia!

OOC: Eh, I think you have pretty much ten nations on your ass already. Eleven when NG gets back on. Anyway, keep off Polynesia!

Well, people who have posted on the thread, and I know for sure that they are belligerent are you, Hawdawg and Celtayoshi - that's three. Layarteb is a free bird, so I can't count him in that.

Well, people who have posted on the thread, and I know for sure that they are belligerent are you, Hawdawg and Celtayoshi - that's three. Layarteb is a free bird, so I can't count him in that.

btw, you also picked possibly the most militaristic Earth II nations on this planet to invade from one small island, come on, all we have to do is remove the nuclear tips off our ICBMs and blow you to high heaven.

btw, you also picked possibly the most militaristic Earth II nations on this planet to invade from one small island, come on, all we have to do is remove the nuclear tips off our ICBMs and blow you to high heaven.

[OOC: Actually, removing the nuclear tips off an ICBM won't blow me to heaven's high. Unfortunately, ICBMs are some of the easiest things to respond to since they don't start corkscrewing until they re-enter the atmosphere. If it wasn't for some budgetary features the U.S. would probably have a very accurate ABM missile system, and indeed they do [if it was ever tested]. So, again, that won't solve your problems.]

[OOC: Actually, removing the nuclear tips off an ICBM won't blow me to heaven's high. Unfortunately, ICBMs are some of the easiest things to respond to since they don't start corkscrewing until they re-enter the atmosphere. If it wasn't for some budgetary features the U.S. would probably have a very accurate ABM missile system, and indeed they do [if it was ever tested]. So, again, that won't solve your problems.]


FYI, this whole thread is OOC so you dont have to specify. Starting the update now guys.

[OOC: Actually, removing the nuclear tips off an ICBM won't blow me to heaven's high. Unfortunately, ICBMs are some of the easiest things to respond to since they don't start corkscrewing until they re-enter the atmosphere. If it wasn't for some budgetary features the U.S. would probably have a very accurate ABM missile system, and indeed they do [if it was ever tested]. So, again, that won't solve your problems.]


But against an island nation with limited room to use land based ABM systems, or, at least hide them, and a nation with the capabilites to remove any space based element to the ABM system means that fairly quickly you could find yourself exposed...

Sorry, I was used to posting OOC in the other thread, so I did the same here. :P

Sorry, I was used to posting OOC in the other thread, so I did the same here. :P

lol, yea, its an annoying habit to break, I keep doing it on some offsite forums!

But against an island nation with limited room to use land based ABM systems, or, at least hide them, and a nation with the capabilites to remove any space based element to the ABM system means that fairly quickly you could find yourself exposed...

Fortunately for me, you don't need much room to operate an ABM system. And I doubt you'll have the capabilities to take out the sattelites I'm going to have Japan shoot up soon enough. But, that's left for in character posts - but, these are sattelite constellations, on other orbits, so it won't be as easy as you think.

Fortunately for me, you don't need much room to operate an ABM system. And I doubt you'll have the capabilities to take out the sattelites I'm going to have Japan shoot up soon enough. But, that's left for in character posts - but, these are sattelite constellations, on other orbits, so it won't be as easy as you think.

True, there is a lot of crap floating about in space, even finding the right things can sometimes be had enough ... but thats why we have Space Agencies...

anyway, I am kinda tired now...nite all...will post again sometime tomorrow afternoon (my time!)

I try to be moddest but these guys don't help ;)

TLS you have AIM?

I will update the thread a little later, after dinner.

Yeah.

EmperorJonI@aol.com

RomeW: You don't own the Solomon Islands. Kreynoria does. Unless you traded and didn't tell me or I missed it. As far as the Bismarck Archipelago, nobody except you had New Britain. So if I change it out to you having all of them then I can. Thread added.

Mac/RomeW: Kermadic transferred.

Bjorn: Cameroon fixed, list fixed.

TLS: New Pakistan map.

Same deal if I missed anything let me know...

Well, those islands just off Papua New Guinea are listed on the maps as Rome's..that was transffered to me.

Well, those islands just off Papua New Guinea are listed on the maps as Rome's..that was transffered to me.
Try re-loading the map.

Well, those islands just off Papua New Guinea are listed on the maps as Rome's..that was transffered to me.

That's the Bismarck Archipelago...The solomons are to the east of Paupa and north of Vanuatu which is north of New caledonia.

That's the Bismarck Archipelago...The solomons are to the east of Paupa and north of Vanuatu which is north of New caledonia.

I guess those were technically transferred to me, although I don't know if RomeW was aware of it.

I guess those were technically transferred to me, although I don't know if RomeW was aware of it.

At the time he was only in control of Kermadic, New Britain Island, and Vanatu. He said everything but New Brit. and Vanatu...then he claimed the rest of the archipelago so all you got was Kermadic.

I just posted #7,500...I pwn!

I just posted #7,500...I pwn!

Ahh, but if you look at it this way, I have posted more posts at my countries age than you did when your country was this age...

Mac's obviously got an ace up his sleeve. PLus as far as im concerned he is a damn good rp... like he reads alot. If i was closer and had some interest in what happens id probably join him seeing as i need to expand soon too.

Sorry about that, that was pretty much pointless.. who gives a damn about my two cents eh. I guess just letting you know im watching for later developments maybe i can hop in but i doubt it

Ahh, but if you look at it this way, I have posted more posts at my countries age than you did when your country was this age...

I was pretty close.

Hey Mac how about an orbat? I would like to know what I am up against.

Pysch. man what are you thinking? Attacking Papau New Guinea is a bad bad idea. I already have increased fighter patrols, heightened state of alert, and many many forces coiled up like a spring ready to be released. Even if a suprise attack occurs, it is gonna be bad.


-Hawdawg

Well, to keep things simple, I shall just transfer the Kermandec Islands to The Macabees. However, I will only transfer them once the war in the Pacific is over.

EDIT1- Squornshelous has sold me Mauritania.

EDIT2- New thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9727644#post9727644 (The Formation of the Republic of Texas, ATTN: Hawdawg)

EDIT3- Can I ask, of the few members we have left, who's interested in maintaining the Confederacy? I'm contemplating reviving it, and making it more global in scale.

Well, to keep things simple, I shall just transfer the Kermandec Islands to The Macabees. However, I will only transfer them once the war in the Pacific is over.

EDIT1- Squornshelous has sold me Mauritania.

EDIT2- New thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9727644#post9727644 (The Formation of the Republic of Texas, ATTN: Hawdawg)

EDIT3- Can I ask, of the few members we have left, who's interested in maintaining the Confederacy? I'm contemplating reviving it, and making it more global in scale.

I'm up for it, buuudy!

EDIT1- Squornshelous has sold me Mauritania.


I confirm this

Rome, I pulled out, but if a new version shows some promise, we may consider the RC again.

Rome, I pulled out, but if a new version shows some promise, we may consider the RC again.

I say the new version has more nukes in it :D

But really though, the problem the old RC had was that certain members had their loyalties elsewhere(*cough*Cotland*cough*), and member states could not legally stop them from commiting illegal acts.

Ah, shaddup TLS.

Lay, would you mind moving the space program to "alliances"?

Ah, shaddup TLS.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

;)

How can you get in touch with people, like a TG if they dont go a homepage thing?

How can you get in touch with people, like a TG if they dont go a homepage thing?
Que? Please, elaborate.

I think he means when someone doesnt check their TG's, is there anything you can do?

Unless you have their AIM or similar, i think you're out of luck

I update tomorrow...

I update tomorrow...

...Or will you?

Ah, shaddup TLS, take two!

(Do you get the sensation of deja vu?)

;)

Ah, shaddup TLS, take two!

(Do you get the sensation of deja vu?)

;)

Why yes, yes I do!

PWNED!

Anyway, too much CS and too little sleep... Night all!

PWNED!

Anyway, too much CS and too little sleep... Night all!

Pfft, CS...

CS is a cool game, except for all the hax. I use to play it all the time last year but now im into bf2 and world of warcrack

CS is a cool game, except for all the hax. I use to play it all the time last year but now im into bf2 and world of warcrack

My computer sucks too much to play BF2 *cry*

But I have WoW. And FFXI. So I don't need BF2.

My computer sucks too much to play BF2 *cry*

My computer can't even play sounds, all I hear is a whirring noise...I really should get that problem fixed...

Hey Varsola, you're being 'invaded'

Redeemable Freedom (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9739918#post9739918)

Lay, can you add this thread?
BTW, you have a ship called Sehnsucht...
Rammstein?

I say the new version has more nukes in it :D

But really though, the problem the old RC had was that certain members had their loyalties elsewhere(*cough*Cotland*cough*), and member states could not legally stop them from commiting illegal acts.
At least at first, there were also so many powerful nations in it that for a little nation (like me at the time) it was impossible to touch anyone without half of earth II declaring war on you.

At least at first, there were also so many powerful nations in it that for a little nation (like me at the time) it was impossible to touch anyone without half of earth II declaring war on you.

The world was different back then. Certain member states(such as myself and the Parthians) had particularly bad relations, and had gone to war at least once, at it appeared as if war would break out again and again. After we kicked out the nations that kept on trying to kill everyone, we had a stable alliance. Unfortunatly, it turned out not to be as strong as we all hoped.

I meant if i wanted to send a tg to say tls or mac, by clicking on their name they dont have a homepage to click to send a tg.

Um in other words i cant find their nation page.

I meant if i wanted to send a tg to say tls or mac, by clicking on their name they dont have a homepage to click to send a tg.

Um in other words i cant find their nation page.

Go to the NationStates home page, and then click on world. Where it has a field for 'find nation' copy/paste any name you want to find, and find it that way.

Doesnt Work, like your forum name must be different

Doesnt Work, like your forum name must be different


No, it's the same. You must be doing something wrong. I suggest you take this to technical.

Eh i got it, didnt know they were so anal about spacing lol

Yyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn...

Whoa. I have not been here in a while. I just wanted to let everyone know I am still alive, I've just been incredibly busy and haven't even logged on in so long, I had been worried my nation had been deleted. Luckily it wasn't, because that would have been sad, as I have never had to resurrect it (by "it" I mean New Jyria; my puppets are often neglected).

I am also glad to see I wasn't changed to idle on the main list, even though I have been. I'll try to be more active, just school is back with a vengeance and I'm trying to battle sickness and keep up with my work, and it has been difficult.

I'll try to get a post up tomorrow or the next day. School has been busy this week.

seems like everyones been having a long week.

seems like everyones been having a long week.

Not me.

But since everyone else has, I've been bored out of my mind, and I've been playing Hearts of Iron II endlessly. One can only make Poland the most powerful nation in Europe so many times before you start to get bored.

*sigh*

Well, I haven't checked out what it's like to play as Liberia...

Ummm...Nothing important to say right now.

Yeah this week seems to have gone crazy with everyone. I don't know if this is a good idea but I know a lot of us have AIM. Why not, one day, just go onto AIM, start up a chat, and just BS or something. Beats me...just throwing ideas. I'm bored too.

Yeah this week seems to have gone crazy with everyone. I don't know if this is a good idea but I know a lot of us have AIM. Why not, one day, just go onto AIM, start up a chat, and just BS or something. Beats me...just throwing ideas. I'm bored too.

Well, I'm bored, so I'm going to tell you how my game went...

Well, it started out with me playing as Poland. I then tried to overthrow the government of the U.S.S.R, and it worked! So anyhoo, my big neighbor was now just Russia. I then went to war with Germany while it were weak, and owned them, and made them my puppet. I also took over the Baltic states. So ANYHOO, after I switched to the French for a spin to intervene in the Spanish Civil War(the Republicans won, with the aid of the French), I switched to the Greeks, beat the crap out of Turkey(and took all their coastal provinces), took over Bulgaria, then the Romanian coast and the Russian Black Sea coast, as well as the Caucasus. So ANYHOO, I then switched to Poland. I was having nice economic reforms, when all of a sudden my ally France declared war on Russia. I made peace with Russia quickly, so all was good, until France landed an army on the Russian Baltic coast and took Leningrad. Seeing how I didn't want France to take Moscow, I went to war with Russia(my forces had just owned Czechslovakia, and I took over the Slovakia part, so my forces were veterans of either the Baltic War, the Czech War, or the German War). I took alot of their provinces, including Kiev and most of what is now Belarus and Western Ukraine, and I beseiged Moscow for 2 months. Then, after I had amassed 23 of my trained divisions(I had to send 9 of them to re-capture Leningrad, because those moron French left it undefended), I attacked Moscow and CAPTURED IT! I was much happy, but by then the French had captured all the Russian Territories west of the Urals that I had not(the British had invaded the North and the French had sent another army to capture the Russian Far East via the ocean), so I had no more chance of expansion. Oh yeah, and during my war with Germany I extended the borders to what they are today. So, I then started playing as the Russians(so the A.I could build up Poland better than I could), and realised I was ROYALLY screwed(I had 5 divisions, against like 20 French,8 British, 1 Egyptian, 1 Belgian, 5 Australian, like 3 New Zealander, and 10 Polish, seeing how the A.I had decided to give the French some expeditionary forces), so I retreated back to Siberia. I then trained 7 more divisions, and used them to conquer back areas of West Russia(y'see, the French had a bunch of divisions, but they were all split into groups of one, so my 7 divisions would own the French).

That's where I stopped playing, because I decided to check on NS.

LOL! Good for you.

LOL! Good for you.

Yes.

I really have no life :(

Well, I'm bored, so I'm going to tell you how my game went...

Well, it started out with me playing as Poland. I then tried to overthrow the government of the U.S.S.R, and it worked! So anyhoo, my big neighbor was now just Russia. I then went to war with Germany while it were weak, and owned them, and made them my puppet. I also took over the Baltic states. So ANYHOO, after I switched to the French for a spin to intervene in the Spanish Civil War(the Republicans won, with the aid of the French), I switched to the Greeks, beat the crap out of Turkey(and took all their coastal provinces), took over Bulgaria, then the Romanian coast and the Russian Black Sea coast, as well as the Caucasus. So ANYHOO, I then switched to Poland. I was having nice economic reforms, when all of a sudden my ally France declared war on Russia. I made peace with Russia quickly, so all was good, until France landed an army on the Russian Baltic coast and took Leningrad. Seeing how I didn't want France to take Moscow, I went to war with Russia(my forces had just owned Czechslovakia, and I took over the Slovakia part, so my forces were veterans of either the Baltic War, the Czech War, or the German War). I took alot of their provinces, including Kiev and most of what is now Belarus and Western Ukraine, and I beseiged Moscow for 2 months. Then, after I had amassed 23 of my trained divisions(I had to send 9 of them to re-capture Leningrad, because those moron French left it undefended), I attacked Moscow and CAPTURED IT! I was much happy, but by then the French had captured all the Russian Territories west of the Urals that I had not(the British had invaded the North and the French had sent another army to capture the Russian Far East via the ocean), so I had no more chance of expansion. Oh yeah, and during my war with Germany I extended the borders to what they are today. So, I then started playing as the Russians(so the A.I could build up Poland better than I could), and realised I was ROYALLY screwed(I had 5 divisions, against like 20 French,8 British, 1 Egyptian, 1 Belgian, 5 Australian, like 3 New Zealander, and 10 Polish, seeing how the A.I had decided to give the French some expeditionary forces), so I retreated back to Siberia. I then trained 7 more divisions, and used them to conquer back areas of West Russia(y'see, the French had a bunch of divisions, but they were all split into groups of one, so my 7 divisions would own the French).

That's where I stopped playing, because I decided to check on NS.

What was this?

What was this?

Hearts of Iron II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_of_Iron_II).

Really fun game.

Basically, you pick ANY country that existed on Jan. 1 .1936 and play as them until Dec 31 1947. You can play different scenarios, or you could choose to start at a later date(if you have the game fully patched to ver. 1.2, you could start either in 1936, 1938(right before Munich Agreement), 1939(Invasion of Poland), 1941(Germany invades U.S.S.R), 1944(D-Day), with all countries as they were historically at the starting date).

There are also some other cool scenarios, such as the Spanish Civil War(this event happens in a normal game, but if you play the Spanish Civil War campaign it's a bit more realistic and you are ONLY playing in Spain), or a fictional Platinean War between Argentina(backed by the Nazi's) and Brazil(backed by the U.S.), and another scenario is a fictional invasion of Japan(the alternative to Nuking Japan. Needless to say, alot more people die this way). There are like 10 other scenarios.

Ah....

*clears throat*

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I SHALL BOW TO THEE GOD FOR BRINGING THIS GAME INTO MY EYES..YOU ARE THE ENLIGHTENED ONE..just too bad I'm still not going to just offer Japan as a token >_>

Ah....

*clears throat*

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I SHALL BOW TO THEE GOD FOR BRINGING THIS GAME INTO MY EYES..YOU ARE THE ENLIGHTENED ONE..just too bad I'm still not going to just offer Japan as a token >_>

O_o


Oooooooookkkkkaaaaaay......

O_o


Oooooooookkkkkaaaaaay......

Figured that'd scare you.

Anyways......

Figured that'd scare you.

Anyways......

I'm bored...

Haven't played hearts of Iron, but I have victoria, the one that covers 1836-1920. Awesome game. I always end up with weird alternate histories, like the one where I had belgium ruling fortress europe, half of africa, and central america. It is a long game to play through though, especially when you start in 1836.
This week has been incredibly busy, but somehow I've managed to squeeze in my usual amount of NS time.

Europa Universalis II, Hearts of Iron, Victoria, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron II.....

All great fun! My favourites are Victoria (Austrian Empire - managed to get some overseas colonies and beat up Germany) and HOI II (Germany - ongoing game, getting very alternate history with this one).

I haven't tried Victoria yet, but it sounds fun!

Meh, you people need to play a real computer game, like Football Manager 2005 or The Sims...

LMFAO!

*rocking CoD2 demo*

Meh, you people need to play a real computer game, like Football Manager 2005 or The Sims...

ROFLMAO!

Meh, you people need to play a real computer game, like Football Manager 2005 or The Sims...

Please, please, please tell me that your just kidding. That has to be sarcasm.

CoD's pretty good, have you played the BF2 demo too?

Please, please, please tell me that your just kidding. That has to be sarcasm.

CoD's pretty good, have you played the BF2 demo too?

I love CoD, and I also like MoH:AA. My computer sucks to much to play BF2 though. I only have 256 megs of RAM *cry*

I love CoD, and I also like MoH:AA. My computer sucks to much to play BF2 though. I only have 256 megs of RAM *cry*

Ouch.

BF2 is nice, but it's sometimes hard to find good servers, most of the demo servers are pretty laggy. My friend also has the DoD mod for Half Life 2 and it's pretty good as well, but there's only 3 or 4 maps, so it gets dull after a while.

FM2005 all the way, but hey, I told you I was footie mad...

Austria isn't my favorite. Usually I end up picking away at the little tiny german and italian states as treaties end, before going into dozens of ethnic schims. I like Prussia, the Netherlands, and Belgium (in no particular order) better.

Out of curiosity, which of these would people be most interested in( I'm desperate for something to happen IC):
-E2 Olympics
-E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture)
-E2 International Ultra-cricket league (Hitchikers series)
-E2 Black Plague (currently on hold)

Just asking because the threads Im involved in are in the following conditions:

Poland-Everyone's off taking a dump
Israel-Waiting for Huahin
Human Rights conference-finished bickering over things
Sparta/Krey-not directly involved, ive done everything i can do
Pacific-Mac, Lay, and Dawg are having a shouting match over planes

I don't know... shouting matches over planes can be really fun

Bjornoya would totally kick ass in E2 winter olympics. But who owns Jamaica?

Austria isn't my favorite. Usually I end up picking away at the little tiny german and italian states as treaties end, before going into dozens of ethnic schims. I like Prussia, the Netherlands, and Belgium (in no particular order) better.

Out of curiosity, which of these would people be most interested in( I'm desperate for something to happen IC):
-E2 Olympics
-E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture)
-E2 International Ultra-cricket league (Hitchikers series)
-E2 Black Plague (currently on hold)


I would also pwn at the Winter Olympics.

You can defintely count on me not to follow the Geneva Convention.

I would love to play Brockian Ultra-Cricket, the rules of which are as follows:
Rule One: Grow at least three extra legs. You won't need them, but it keeps the crowds amused.
Rule Two: Find one good Brockian Ultra-Cricket player and clone him off a few times. This saves an enormous amount of tedious selection and training.
Rule Three: Put your team and the opposing team in a large field and build a high wall round them.
The reason for this is that, though the game is a major spectator sport, the frustration experienced by the audience at not actually being able to see what's going on leads them to imagine that it's a lot more exciting than it actually is. A crowd that has just watched a rather humdrum game experiences far less life-affirmation than a crowd that believes it has just missed the most dramatic event in sporting history.
Rule Four: Throw lots of assorted items of sporting equipment over the walls for the players. Anything will do - cricket bats, basecube bats, tennis guns, skis, anything you can get a good swing with.
Rule five: The players should now lay about themselves for all they are worth with whatever they find to hand. Whenever a player scores a 'hit' on another player, he should immediately run away and apologize from a safe distance.
Apologies should be concise, sincere and, for maximum clarity and points, delivered through a megaphone.
Rule Six: The winning team shall be the first team that wins.

The Black Plague doesnt sound so fun.

I'd like to see Black Plague and Olympics...I'd own everyone at the water events!

RomeW: Texas Republic thread added.

Elephantum: Thread moved to alliances.

Brink: Go to the NS interface and go to world. Type in the nation name and you can contact through telegram there.

TLS: CS is a joke. Play the new DOD:S? That is awesome. And as much as I love BF2, it is damn frustrating!!! G36C pwns!!!

Bjornya: Thread added. Ship is named after the song in a way yes. I do like the meaning of the world though and I used it in a story RP once.

E2 Olympics
Good idea! I'm down!

E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture)
I'd attend. I can't say I'm going to sign anything.

E2 International Ultra-cricket league (Hitchikers series)
Err I wouldn't object but I wouldn't be a part.

E2 Black Plague (currently on hold)
Count me in.

I win the Olympic gold for footie! lol, apart from that, I would stick up a strong challange for long distance (African Runners) and the winter Olympics (Canada, Siberia etc)

Plague, sounds okay ish... The only problem is that these days most of us have pretty efficient hospitals, and very good epidemic control measures, or at least the less liberal societies would.

Not signing any Geneva Protocol, and Ultra Cricket, erm, no.

I propose the winter olympics to take place in Lillehammer, Norway, Cotland!

The Olympics and plague seem to have the most interest. As I already have the plague thread up and on hold, perhaps someone more neutral should start the Olypmic commitee thread.

Winter Olympics? Hah with no snow in TIOR we'd suck at that.

Geneva Convention? Hell why not.

Black Plague? Have fun dieing!

Cricket? Hell no! Baseball man, because it's AMERICAN.

Bo yaaah, it's my birthday, it's my birthday

Im down for olympics

Though i'll probably only enter in a couple of events cause most of my countries are in a tropical climate. Expect for orenburg Oblast

Too bad no summer olympics yet
My mexican boxers would take the gold in a heartbeat

RomeW: Texas Republic thread added.

Elephantum: Thread moved to alliances.

Brink: Go to the NS interface and go to world. Type in the nation name and you can contact through telegram there.

TLS: CS is a joke. Play the new DOD:S? That is awesome. And as much as I love BF2, it is damn frustrating!!! G36C pwns!!!

Bjornya: Thread added. Ship is named after the song in a way yes. I do like the meaning of the world though and I used it in a story RP once.

E2 Olympics
Good idea! I'm down!

E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture)
I'd attend. I can't say I'm going to sign anything.

E2 International Ultra-cricket league (Hitchikers series)
Err I wouldn't object but I wouldn't be a part.

E2 Black Plague (currently on hold)
Count me in.


I hate CS *shudder*. It's not as cool as everyone thinks it is.

Anyhoo, I'm down for the E2 Olympics, the Geneva Thinger, and the Cricket thing(Even though I haven't the faintest idea how to play :().

I'm not so sure about t3h plague. I mean, I could probably protect myself from it relatively well(at least in the more urban areas), but I think such an outbreak that kills millions is VERY unlikely, especially due to the facts that many nations here are EXTREMELY advanced. Now, if we had any third-world countries, there could be problems...

*Official Business*

BLARGistania has sold me southern Arizona.

Sparta -Happy Birthday
On the Geneva Protocol: This is different from the convention, which is more famous, most likely because it's broken more often. The Convention could be dealt with in the Human Rights conference underway now. The Protocol deals with Chemical and Biological weapons. [It was signed before nuclear weapons, between the two world wars (1928), although it is the basis for most of international law when it comes to using nukes.] To put it simply, it bans chemical and biological weapons. The E2 version doesnt need to be that strict. Something banning first strikes and use against civilians might gain more approval.

Olympics :Someone (nosegoes) should start a thread for the Olympics. Perhaps start one (either summer or winter, doesn't matter), and choose a RL date and city for the next one.

Bubonic Plague : The plague will begin in Hyderabad (inner city india gets pretty close to third world, although it could be a weaponized attack), and spread from there. Even though better medical systems exist now than in the last outbreak, over 100 years ago, outbreaks in the modern world still cause lots of death, and more importantly, lots of fear. AIDS and SARS are the best modern examples, but look at the fear the threat of avian flu brings up.

Disease scares people. I live in New England, and EEE is a big fear. Living with a doctor, I also see the panic over the flu vaccine every year.

Ultra-Cricket : Regular cricket is beyond me, but in one of my boredom-induced moments, I remebered the part of Hitchhikers that Squorn put up.

-E2 Olympics Yes, very much
-E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture) Yes again.
-E2 International Ultra-cricket league (Hitchikers series) I say hockey! (Though cricket will be fun)
-E2 Black Plague (currently on hold) Yes.

-E2 Geneva Protocol (WMDs not torture) Yes again.
Feel like hosting it?

Sparta -Happy Birthday
On the Geneva Protocol: This is different from the convention, which is more famous, most likely because it's broken more often. The Convention could be dealt with in the Human Rights conference underway now. The Protocol deals with Chemical and Biological weapons. [It was signed before nuclear weapons, between the two world wars (1928), although it is the basis for most of international law when it comes to using nukes.] To put it simply, it bans chemical and biological weapons. The E2 version doesnt need to be that strict. Something banning first strikes and use against civilians might gain more approval.

Olympics :Someone (nosegoes) should start a thread for the Olympics. Perhaps start one (either summer or winter, doesn't matter), and choose a RL date and city for the next one.

Bubonic Plague : The plague will begin in Hyderabad (inner city india gets pretty close to third world, although it could be a weaponized attack), and spread from there. Even though better medical systems exist now than in the last outbreak, over 100 years ago, outbreaks in the modern world still cause lots of death, and more importantly, lots of fear. AIDS and SARS are the best modern examples, but look at the fear the threat of avian flu brings up.

Disease scares people. I live in New England, and EEE is a big fear. Living with a doctor, I also see the panic over the flu vaccine every year.

Ultra-Cricket : Regular cricket is beyond me, but in one of my boredom-induced moments, I remebered the part of Hitchhikers that Squorn put up.


Did I hear weaponized plague?

*shifty eyes*

I might be able to...say...arrange something, if you know what I mean...



:D

Feel like hosting it?

You know what, I will. It'd be appropriate given who I am.

I'd like to participate, even though TIOR doesn't own a single peace of land... but please Lay? PLEASE?!

I'd like to participate, even though TIOR doesn't own a single peace of land... but please Lay? PLEASE?!

Your puppet verdon or whatever has land.

Voreioditika Edaphi.

Did I hear weaponized plague?

*shifty eyes*

I might be able to...say...arrange something, if you know what I mean...



:D
Well, the plague (which i always spell wrong the first time I type it), is i n Hyderabad. I had three ways of explaining it:
1)Lingering disease from past outbreaks resurfaces
2)Escaped from medical lab in India (since we dont use WMDs)
3)Foriegn weaponized disease

The problem with you doing it is all the things we're working together on (Poland, Israel, space program, MESC, and all the things in the past). You could be a backstabbing traitor, or it could be an accident, or an "accident." I was hoping, as you have lots of large cities, especially in India and Pakistan, you could get a mouthful of plague victims (not very tasty)

Announcement:

I will start teaching a night class next week from 4pm-9pm CST so don't look for me posting too much. (Have to do something extra to pay for gas).

-Hawdawg

Announcement:

I will start teaching a night class next week from 4pm-9pm CST so don't look for me posting too much. (Have to do something extra to pay for gas).

-Hawdawg
Thank god I can't drive. Living in the suburbs, there is no way i could get around without a car. Unfortunately, that will change Jan 2007, when gas prices will be more ridiculous, like $20.999 (that extra .9 of a cent they charge)

Thank god I can't drive. Living in the suburbs, there is no way i could get around without a car. Unfortunately, that will change Jan 2007, when gas prices will be more ridiculous, like $20.999 (that extra .9 of a cent they charge)

My wife is having to stay with relatives and housesit in the town her college is at. We can't afford for her to commute 45 miles one way everyday. Just got word electric bill is going up 24% and natural gas bill is going up 90%. "Hurricane damage" is all we are told, and the Public Utilities Commission just lets 'em hang it to us. I live on a teachers salary not a CEO's salary. I am afraid our economy is about to take a huge hit from all this gas, electric, etc. rate increases.

-Hawdawg

Just as a Service Announcement
Only 4 MESC members have voted on the current issue (embargo on Huahin) on the forums. Voting ends on the 9th. One more vote in favor automatically passes it. 5 are needed to reject it.

Well, the plague (which i always spell wrong the first time I type it), is i n Hyderabad. I had three ways of explaining it:
1)Lingering disease from past outbreaks resurfaces
2)Escaped from medical lab in India (since we dont use WMDs)
3)Foriegn weaponized disease

The problem with you doing it is all the things we're working together on (Poland, Israel, space program, MESC, and all the things in the past). You could be a backstabbing traitor, or it could be an accident, or an "accident." I was hoping, as you have lots of large cities, especially in India and Pakistan, you could get a mouthful of plague victims (not very tasty)

You forgot something, young padawan:

My nation isn't exactly unified.

In fact I've still got those handy Sons of the Blue Crescent hanging around. For those who don't know, they're a terrorist group that has caused quite a bit of trouble in the past(including overthrowing the Greater Carthage area and invading Cottish Sicily, and assasinating the last emperor minutes after he had abdicated his thrown). They're the kinda people that go "We are the master nation!" and they hate anything not-carthaginian or un-imperial. They're fine with Carthages overseas holdings, seeing how they have pledged their alleigance to Carthage, but not other countries.

You forgot something, young padawan:

My nation isn't exactly unified.

In fact I've still got those handy Sons of the Blue Crescent hanging around. For those who don't know, they're a terrorist group that has caused quite a bit of trouble in the past(including overthrowing the Greater Carthage area and invading Cottish Sicily, and assasinating the last emperor minutes after he had abdicated his thrown). They're the kinda people that go "We are the master nation!" and they hate anything not-carthaginian or un-imperial. They're fine with Carthages overseas holdings, seeing how they have pledged their alleigance to Carthage, but not other countries.
Can I get to crush a cell of them operating in Cotland?

Yay jingoistic Carthaginian terrorists!

My nation is going to be in for a world of bad times soon. The plague, losing lots of Iranian land (coming soon), and a rebellion in Koror led by a rather odd dictator, plus the general decline of the Dinar since the Poland thing began, do not spell good news for Elephantum.

Yay jingoistic Carthaginian terrorists!

My nation is going to be in for a world of bad times soon. The plague, losing lots of Iranian land (coming soon), and a rebellion in Koror led by a rather odd dictator, plus the general decline of the Dinar since the Poland thing began, do not spell good news for Elephantum.

Possibly an EOL embaro too.

Possibly an EOL embaro too.
Well yes, there's also the fact that we had only ever passed one flag act ever, the one against Hogsweat, but we have them against you, NG, Japan, Brydog, Hawdawg, and Huahin. Good for patriotism, bad for the economy. I'm working on the Koror revolt right now. The leader who comes to power will be one of those eccentric despots like Idi Amin who do all sorts of crazy things. I only did it on Koror because changing our currency to cheddar cheese is not something mainland Elephantum needs at the moment. :)

Well yes, there's also the fact that we had only ever passed one flag act ever, the one against Hogsweat, but we have them against you, NG, Japan, Brydog, Hawdawg, and Huahin. Good for patriotism, bad for the economy. I'm working on the Koror revolt right now. The leader who comes to power will be one of those eccentric despots like Idi Amin who do all sorts of crazy things. I only did it on Koror because changing our currency to cheddar cheese is not something mainland Elephantum needs at the moment. :)

LOL...yes by the way, where have you been getting your military hardware from? just curious...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448410
Emperor announces reforms

This isn't only E2.

LOL...yes by the way, where have you been getting your military hardware from? just curious...
Used to be you for Air and Navy, TN for army. I've actually been using the same miltary for a long time, simply because I haven't gotten around to my massive military reorganization that occurs whenever I have some time. Unfortunately this leads to my military being stretched thinner and thinner, although that does help get rid of things like Madras/Chennai, which had 1/4 of the military stationed there at one point.

Although repealing the Flag Acts against all but Huahin and Brydog was going to happen as soon as Poland gets started up again (someone's been in the bathroom for quite some time.), it would still take a long time to restablize conditions, unless we ended up on the same side of something important.

EDIT-http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448412

Koror Revolts!

Coming soon: The Crackpot Dictatorship of Koror!

Yay jingoistic Carthaginian terrorists!

My nation is going to be in for a world of bad times soon. The plague, losing lots of Iranian land (coming soon), and a rebellion in Koror led by a rather odd dictator, plus the general decline of the Dinar since the Poland thing began, do not spell good news for Elephantum.

TLS has had so many regime changes it's not funny.

So, how you be wanting the plague to go BOOM-z0rz?

And Cotland: Sure. Just be careful, they aren't the mess of militia they were when they invaded Sicily. And they have some pretty powerful friends...

TLS has had so many regime changes it's not funny.

So, how you be wanting the plague to go BOOM-z0rz?

And Cotland: Sure. Just be careful, they aren't the mess of militia they were when they invaded Sicily. And they have some pretty powerful friends...
Well, two posts from the current one in the plague thread will be my announcing we have one confirmed dead from plague. However, it will leave enough time for the disease to escape before we begin our emergency plans. We dont realize it's an attack, but then you can say "we did it, we did it!" if you want. Perhaps you're mad that we took Indian land that once belonged to Carthage. In central india you might even get some local support, but the South has been Elephanti for too long (only Bahrain has been around longer), to get any real support. Giving money/weapons/other support to the Koror rebels might help as well.

EDIT-while on the topic of the plague, part 3 is up. Now we know we have the plague in Hyderabad, and we're about to announce it.

Announcement:

Out of town until Sunday. I need a little break.

-Hawdawg

Used to be you for Air and Navy, TN for army. I've actually been using the same miltary for a long time, simply because I haven't gotten around to my massive military reorganization that occurs whenever I have some time. Unfortunately this leads to my military being stretched thinner and thinner, although that does help get rid of things like Madras/Chennai, which had 1/4 of the military stationed there at one point.

Although repealing the Flag Acts against all but Huahin and Brydog was going to happen as soon as Poland gets started up again (someone's been in the bathroom for quite some time.), it would still take a long time to restablize conditions, unless we ended up on the same side of something important.

EDIT-http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448412

Koror Revolts!

Coming soon: The Crackpot Dictatorship of Koror!

You must be running out of spare parts...you know this is A PERFECT opportunity for me..

:: checks claims list ::

:headbang: = you
:sniper: = me
:D = cotland

:headbang: :sniper: :D

Bah..

I don't know what to do..

I apparently try to battle anyone without being looked at awkwardly..

I'm still going to attack something though..

You must be running out of spare parts...you know this is A PERFECT opportunity for me..

:: checks claims list ::

:headbang: = you
:sniper: = me
:D = cotland

:headbang: :sniper: :D
LOL!

Why do you drag me in?

LOL!

Why do you drag me in?
Well, you did betray us once for him. Just curious, where exactly are you talking about? I dont think either of you actually have a border with me.

Hell if I know. Anyway, I was looking out for my ally!

Perhaps he means Egypt, or perhaps attacking across the Caspian. Cross through Israel into Jordan. Ahh, I've got my hands full as it is. Lets see:

Poland
War w/Huahin
War w/Brydog
Koror revolt
soon to come collapse in Iran
Human Rights
MESC
International Space Program
Plague
Possible Olympics
Possible WMD conference

Very few of which spell good times for Elephantum. Anyways, this weekend (3 days! :) ) might be the free time I need to reorganize the military, especially the navy, although the army just needs expansion, not reorganization.

Army reorganization has been completed. Using a drastically reduced population for Earth II (1 billion instead of 1.7b), slightly more than 13 million men come out to 1.3% of the population. If I use my full population, it comes out to less than 1%

Air Force comes next, probably tommorrow.

TEN THOUSAND FISTS!!!!
In light of this, I present this (http://www.geocities.com/dgreviews2004/disturbedtenthousandfistsreview.html). (Yeah, it's late. Whatever.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448866

Err yeah new place for that RP I was doing...

A note from the MESC
The MESC has passed an embargo against Huahin. The 4-0 vote ended today. No MESC members should trade with Huahin at all until the embargo is ended. The embargo will not end until a motion from the coalition ends it.

Not E2 but for anyone who might be interested:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9776078#post9776078

(The Journey To The Bizzare: Into Eggerland)

Just a reminder, I'll pay/trade for bases in the following reigons:
Atlantic (particularily on the Americas side)
Pacific
Mediterranean

I am in the process of organizing my Navy and, while organizing the 8 different Naval commands, those are particularly weak (ex. Pacific command only had Koror, which is revolting.

Also, Antiqua, Medievalis, Orientalis has a new post up, the official announcement of the plague.

Let the havoc begin!

We would be willing to provide bases in the Pacific.

The Divine Empire would like to offer the Solomon Islands as a potentional venue for the Earth II Summer Olympics.

Just a reminder, I'll pay/trade for bases in the following reigons:
Atlantic (particularily on the Americas side)
Pacific
Mediterranean

I am in the process of organizing my Navy and, while organizing the 8 different Naval commands, those are particularly weak (ex. Pacific command only had Koror, which is revolting.

Also, Antiqua, Medievalis, Orientalis has a new post up, the official announcement of the plague.

Let the havoc begin!

Too bad we have this embargo. I could say, if you wanted RP a guy coming to the EOL with it and getting sick after he arrived but err, the embargo limits that so I'm safe...for now ;)

Too bad we have this embargo. I could say, if you wanted RP a guy coming to the EOL with it and getting sick after he arrived but err, the embargo limits that so I'm safe...for now ;)
Ill have to send you a second generation plague victim then. Perhaps someone will spread it into someone with no embargo against either of us, and end up sending it to you through them. Or the terrorists could attack you. As I said before, this kind of an attack is not about death, it is about fear.

Krey-see the International relations thread

Ill have to send you a second generation plague victim then. Perhaps someone will spread it into someone with no embargo against either of us, and end up sending it to you through them. Or the terrorists could attack you. As I said before, this kind of an attack is not about death, it is about fear.

Krey-see the International relations thread

Terrorists could but it would have to be a cell already inside Layarteb and since hte embargo basically all Elephanti citizens were expelled and sent home. Because of the outbreak I am checking all foreigners thoroughly for this.

Terrorists could but it would have to be a cell already inside Layarteb and since hte embargo basically all Elephanti citizens were expelled and sent home. Because of the outbreak I am checking all foreigners thoroughly for this.
The terrorists are from Carthage. They dont like me being in India, which I've been almost since joining. Its TLS's Blue Crescent or something.

The terrorists are from Carthage. They dont like me being in India, which I've been almost since joining. Its TLS's Blue Crescent or something.

Hmm then them attacking me is even less likely. They are against you. In a quasi-state, so am I :). The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

out of curiosity and advance planning: Will your storefront sell to the Glorious, Jubilant and Free Democratic People's Republic of Koror when it officially secedes? As you might be able to guess, it will be none of the things it claims to be. Also, if you think thats bad, wait until the leader takes a title.

Celtayoshi submits the city of Toronto for the Summer Olympics (If its not too late)

out of curiosity and advance planning: Will your storefront sell to the Glorious, Jubilant and Free Democratic People's Republic of Koror when it officially secedes? As you might be able to guess, it will be none of the things it claims to be. Also, if you think thats bad, wait until the leader takes a title.

Chances are it won't, too many bad ties (terrorism, you, etc.) lol...

Chances are it won't, too many bad ties (terrorism, you, etc.) lol...
Its rebelling against me right now, so it sort of works as "enemy of my enemy," although one might call them terrorists, even if not by the textbook definition. (It wasnt a civilian Ohio class they dented, nor are the dead marines civilians)

Also, the Olypmics should probably get thier own thread. I'll start it, although the plague, among other things, might make it less likely to have Olympic HQ in Elephantum.

Its rebelling against me right now, so it sort of works as "enemy of my enemy," although one might call them terrorists, even if not by the textbook definition. (It wasnt a civilian Ohio class they dented, nor are the dead marines civilians)

Also, the Olypmics should probably get thier own thread. I'll start it, although the plague, among other things, might make it less likely to have Olympic HQ in Elephantum.

Yes but we're pretty much just playing this one as neutral.

Hello, I think I have waited enough, Yelm has been gone for more than 21 days since he left and I have send him several messages but he still has not replied any. This means one thing, My War has begun.

Hiiran is right...

Right, if you're counting Yelm "open for business" so to speak, then I lay claims on his Algerian lands. I won't create a claimign thread just yet, but a note to Hiiran: If you attempt to annex Yelmish Algeria, you'll be facing war with moi.

We lay Claim to Kenya, Tanzania and Mozambique. Anyone claiming those areas, Prepare for a long RP. :)

We lay Claim to Kenya, Tanzania and Mozambique. Anyone claiming those areas, Prepare for a long RP. :)

I just might have to fight for Zanzibar.

Deus ex Machina (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9780732#post9780732)

Tommorow, I will make a thread issuing a claim for Yelmish Argentina and Europe (Bulgaria and Romania) tommorow. Please do not try to claim them, because you will be faced with war if you do (unless you tg me and we work something out)

I thoroughly enjoy you guys going and making these decisions on your own without even knowing the details of a story or if there is a story or if there are circumstances and so on and so fourth.

I thoroughly enjoy you guys going and making these decisions on your own without even knowing the details of a story or if there is a story or if there are circumstances and so on and so fourth.

Is that sacrasm?

Anyhoo, that's why I'm waiting 'till I get the OK to claim Yelmish Algeria, and if it isn't ok thats why I'm making sure they don't take it.

That was sarcasm yes.

For the record, Yelm has been inactive because of a death in his family. So that's why you haven't heard from him yet.

Yeah, but he said that he was back about a month or so ago...

Yeah, but he said that he was back about a month or so ago...

Did he really? I haven't seen him since he left.

For the record, Yelm has been inactive because of a death in his family. So that's why you haven't heard from him yet.

Yeah he had them then he jumped back in for the war we had then back out again. Hath there been another?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9783399 (This is BLARGistania's confirmation of the Arizona transfer)

Yeah he had them then he jumped back in for the war we had then back out again. Hath there been another?

Don't know. Hasn't responded to my thread.

Drank way too much Jolt cola and decided to write a little masterpiece...

Anti RC propaganda airs in Panthea (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9786733#post9786733)


Ok so maybe its not very good but it continues my nations anti-Roman Confederacy propaganda. Fighting a war without shooting a bullet

Kind of involves itself with the Poland situation and shows at least some world impact in such an event

Concerning Yelm: As of Sept 30 he was 17 days inactive. As of today he is 11. That definitely means he logged in and in fact did so on the 3rd. This means that he didn't go to 21 days. I am not going to declare him decree 12 because he is not a case of people who never contributed to Earth II. He did not make a request for Decree 13 so if he gets to 21 days of inactivity then you can go to town.

Concerning The Knights Templar: Deleted by NS for inactivity. Have fun, it's free claim.

Hawdawg: Cool beans. I want to be a professor one day so I know the feeling. Hope you can get the gas $. I saw it for $2.95/gallon here at BP so that is, in retrospect of lately, cheap. Scary... fucking SUVs...and yes I am conservative saying that!

All Threads Added

RomeW: Okay I'll do the Arizona thing when I get home. If I forget then please telegram me.

TLS & Elephantum. You might want to check out Ride the Lightning (post #7).

TLS & Elephantum. You might want to check out Ride the Lightning (post #7).

Oh sweet Jebus.

The world is going to hell in a hand-basket. The F.C.U.(Federal Carthaginian Union, for all you peeps who don't know) has disentigrated and armies are being raised to commit genocide against the warring factions, Elephantum is being destroyed by plague, and Layarteb is about to be taken over (or at least partially controlled, it seems) but a maniac who wishes to wipe out all life on Earth (or so it seems).

Oh sweet Jebus.

The world is going to hell in a hand-basket. The F.C.U.(Federal Carthaginian Union, for all you peeps who don't know) has disentigrated and armies are being raised to commit genocide against the warring factions, Elephantum is being destroyed by plague, and Layarteb is about to be taken over (or at least partially controlled, it seems) but a maniac who wishes to wipe out all life on Earth (or so it seems).

Well this maniac doesn't want control over the world or the Empire, just the end of the countries of >>>>> & <<<<< .

The page with the spreadsheet cannot be found.

The page with the spreadsheet cannot be found.

Yes it does. It takes a little while to load though and I don't know why.

Well this maniac doesn't want control over the world or the Empire, just the end of the countries of >>>>> & <<<<< .

Oh dear =(

I wonder when they'll fix the forums.

I wonder when they'll fix the forums.

Never, I presume.

Never, I presume.

ARgh!

Hawdawg: Cool beans. I want to be a professor one day so I know the feeling. Hope you can get the gas $. I saw it for $2.95/gallon here at BP so that is, in retrospect of lately, cheap. Scary... fucking SUVs...and yes I am conservative saying that!




Well they are paying me $125 a night two times a week. I think I will end up with about $2500 or so when the classes end. That will make a dent in my gas and I need tires fund.

On a side note, is Macabees EVER gonna post!!!!!!!!!


-Hawdawg

The world is going to hell in a hand-basket. The F.C.U.(Federal Carthaginian Union, for all you peeps who don't know) has disentigrated and armies are being raised to commit genocide against the warring factions, Elephantum is being destroyed by plague, and Layarteb is about to be taken over (or at least partially controlled, it seems) but a maniac who wishes to wipe out all life on Earth (or so it seems).

Good I hope it lights the fire of independence world wide

There are plenty of peeps who want to come into E2 but can't. I pressure all imperial nations to give up some of your territories to new folks....You can't maintain an empire forever!!!!

The romans couldn't even do it without having to divide among generals

I foreseen Europe's future in e2. It’s a future of independent states, new democracies who won their freedom peacefully or through violence. Of course as long as the RC stays in place this task will be much difficult.

Ohh and by the way

The panthean Federation would like to invade Israel to save it from imperalist and restore it in the hands of the jews being the rightful owners of the holy land
RP will follow, probably post it tomarrow. You guys are going to totally dig it too. It's going to be like the begining of Enemy at the Gate with a couple Saving Private Ryan plots put in it. RP oscar worthy

Panthean intelligence are also looking over the revolution against yelm in Romania. Might have to invade that as well as it would give us an ample opprunity to watch over the imperalist of Russia and Europe

Its part of our "expand or die" theory that Panthea developed after the great blackmail of Slovakia

Chaos, chaos all around.......

Perhaps Zhonghua should take advantage of this somehow?

Ohh and by the way

The panthean Federation would like to invade Israel to save it from imperalist and restore it in the hands of the jews being the rightful owners of the holy land
RP will follow, probably post it tomarrow. You guys are going to totally dig it too. It's going to be like the begining of Enemy at the Gate with a couple Saving Private Ryan plots put in it. RP oscar worthy

Panthean intelligence are also looking over the revolution against yelm in Romania. Might have to invade that as well as it would give us an ample opprunity to watch over the imperalist of Russia and Europe

Its part of our "expand or die" theory that Panthea developed after the great blackmail of Slovakia
Well, you should keep in mind the blockade of Israel that myself, Eleph and perhaps TLS have in place to prevent Huahin, who had the same ideas as you, from getting anywhere. We're still waiting for Huahin though... Anyways, Cottish naval vessels and aircraft are coverign the entire western approaches to Israel, and I have a army Corps inside there by now. Good luck.

Layarteb: My territory Western Sahara and Libya belongs to RomeW as part of the Texas land exchange. The African map will need to reflect that please.


Thanks,

-Hawdawg

Eh, I guess I should just tell you all, since no-one else has noticed. TLS just nuked his own city of Mecca. Eleph, you should pay special notice to that one. So should every nation bordering TLS...

Haw musta missed that...updating.

The EOL will praise the efforts to rid the world of Islam ;)

when the **** will they fix jolt. I need to search for some threads.

btw, does anyone have the url for the International Olympic Committee thread.

Well, you should keep in mind the blockade of Israel that myself, Eleph and perhaps TLS have in place to prevent Huahin, who had the same ideas as you, from getting anywhere. We're still waiting for Huahin though... Anyways, Cottish naval vessels and aircraft are coverign the entire western approaches to Israel, and I have a army Corps inside there by now. Good luck.

imperialist!
imperialist!
IMPERIALIST!
<slam fist on to desk>

What possible use can Israel have its in current state. The imperialist want to show it off like a trophy, in the same way that they show off Europe and Russia has merely trophies!! Panthea encourages all citizens of imperialist occupied countries to study the great revolutionaries the past, Tom Paine, Vladimir Lenin, Che Guerra, Panthean invests millions of dollars in publications like Uprising in which encourages rebellion, In other words if we don't invade we still can affect your nation through external resources. Its Panthea's GOD giving destiny to save the world from imperialist and crooked crooks of the anti-nationalist Roman confederacy! LIGHT THE FIRE OF REVOLUTION! BURN BABY BURN!

All independent loving nations must form an alliance to counter the RC! We must form the Brotherhood of Nod to protect those who are oppressed in Europe and Russia. Fools, haven't opened their eyes yet and see that they been hagged by Rome. The Confederacy was just a buffer in protecting the Huns of North Germania march through Europe. Ask yourself why the barbarians stoped at Rome's gate despite having a military advantage. Why doesn't NG do what his great ancestor did before him, sack rome!

Panthea strives to rebuild the holy land and set it up for a independent Jewish nation. Having equal rights and laws under our protection.

It is Panthean's destiny to secure the holy land. It is the last of the great Christian crusades in which we envision a land of mutual relationship between Jews and Christians.

We demand that Cotland, Elephetum, and TLS back down in their blockade. Because as stated above it is a futile attempt to hold back resistance against the old world powers.

We only wish to invade Israel and then give it to a new nation on E2

Viva le Revolution-

Ivan Kerensky
president for life
Federation of Pantheaa

And just exactly how do Pantheaa intend to get those troops into Israel when all routes in to the nation are being blocked by allied forces? What assurances do we have that you will not take the land for yourself? You say that they will be under your protection. It looks to us that you mean that you will rule the Jews at gunpoint, something we cannot allow. Also, we advise against calling one of our most asteemed allies for a "Hun", especially when we're considering giving Israel to that ally.... (OOC: ;))

In short and easy words, drop dead!

Regards,
Imperial Government of Cotland

I think ya'll need to fight to the death for Israel and make a good war out of it. E2 needs one!

Secret message to Empire of Layertab

We thank you for your vocal support of ensuring a independent nation for the Jewish race.

Message to Cotland

I above all leaders of the world have a certain respect for the North Germania empire. Read between the lines and you will see that. They and the following world events made Pantheaa want it is today. When the great blackmail of Slovakia took place it made us realize that we must expand or die! Using the paranoid as weapon has allowed the right wing parties of Panthean to take power in the first time of its young history...that and the race mixing between Russians and Slovakian Refugees in Orenberg Oblast. That’s when the Slovakian Mafia came in handy at making opposition "disappear"
<laugh><grin>

For years we sat dormant not realizing our true potential...That’s until the Glorious Revolution in Poland made us realize that REVOLUTION IS POSSIBLE!
Without the Polish resistance nothing would have been possible. Many books have been written and many made for TV movies have been produced just from that event. The only thing different between us and the polish warriors is that we think that an foreign nation can help push the cause for revolution from the outside. Call it a “people’s imperialism”

In Israel we plan to reeducate the masses and build a democratic nation for them...in which then and only then will I transfer power to a new nation (ooc: a new person coming into E2). The knights Templer was one of the few small non-imperialist nation, our concern is that Israel will become a part of the larger empires instead of free and independent.

We are in a good mood and since we don't feel like slaughtering the Cottish army in the holy land we have decided to offer a compromise. Award us parts of Israel where Israelites are the majority

or

Make an imagery line in the middle of Israel with the Northern under Panthean rule. Jerusalem will be mutually shared


I'll give you one more chance. To quote the Gladitor movie "Am i not merciful"

End the blockade or else we invade the West bank and the Gaza strip first. And let it be known we don't show mercy to those who resistance a Jewish nationalist revolution. Now is it really worth it, to stop one little nation from gaining its independence.
Ohh and notice that we have never said that we plan to harm the Palestine...we just said that we wanted Israel for the Israelites.

I give you 1 day to think about it. Time line for invasion is Saturday night...

And don't worry we will get into Israel if we have to plow are way through your battleships. Not one step backwards

Viva le Revolution!

Ivan Kerensky
President for Life
Federation of Pantheaa

Secret message to Empire of Layertab

We thank you for your vocal support of ensuring a independent nation for the Jewish race.

Message to Cotland

I above all leaders of the world have a certain respect for the North Germania empire. Read between the lines and you will see that. They and the following world events made Pantheaa want it is today. When the great blackmail of Slovakia took place it made us realize that we must expand or die! Using the paranoid as weapon has allowed the right wing parties of Panthean to take power in the first time of its young history...that and the race mixing between Russians and Slovakian Refugees in Orenberg Oblast. That’s when the Slovakian Mafia came in handy at making opposition "disappear"
<laugh><grin>

For years we sat dormant not realizing our true potential...That’s until the Glorious Revolution in Poland made us realize that REVOLUTION IS POSSIBLE!
Without the Polish resistance nothing would have been possible. Many books have been written and many made for TV movies have been produced just from that event. The only thing different between us and the polish warriors is that we think that an foreign nation can help push the cause for revolution from the outside. Call it a “people’s imperialism”

In Israel we plan to reeducate the masses and build a democratic nation for them...in which then and only then will I transfer power to a new nation (ooc: a new person coming into E2). The knights Templer was one of the few small non-imperialist nation, our concern is that Israel will become a part of the larger empires instead of free and independent.

We are in a good mood and since we don't feel like slaughtering the Cottish army in the holy land we have decided to offer a compromise. Award us parts of Israel where Israelites are the majority

or

Make an imagery line in the middle of Israel with the Northern under Panthean rule. Jerusalem will be mutually shared


I'll give you one more chance. To quote the Gladitor movie "Am i not merciful"

End the blockade or else we invade the West bank and the Gaza strip first. And let it be known we don't show mercy to those who resistance a Jewish nationalist revolution. Now is it really worth it, to stop one little nation from gaining its independence.
Ohh and notice that we have never said that we plan to harm the Palestine...we just said that we wanted Israel for the Israelites.

I give you 1 day to think about it. Time line for invasion is Saturday night...

And don't worry we will get into Israel if we have to plow are way through your battleships. Not one step backwards

Viva le Revolution!

Ivan Kerensky
President for Life
Federation of Pantheaa

That was OOC.

(all OOC)

Pantheaa: I think you're taking this thing WAY too seriously.

No. 1, when North Germania was on your doorstep, I was right there to defend you. I couldn't do much else because the Charter prevented me from attacking NG (him being a Confederacy member and all), but I did what I could.

No. 2, in your propaganda thread, I secretly pledged my support if you wanted Slovakia back. So don't talk like I had it in for you.

No. 3, the Roman Empire in RL was a solid, cohesive unit for over 600 years in the Mediterranean. It is the longest lasting and most stable Empire on record, and while it had its periods of instability, they were not increasingly destructive and/or long.

Layarteb: Just bookmark the NationStates forums. That's what I did.

Oh, and a new thread (well, it's just for background to my main nation):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9797943#post9797943

(all OOC)

Pantheaa: I think you're taking this thing WAY too seriously.

No. 1, when North Germania was on your doorstep, I was right there to defend you. I couldn't do much else because the Charter prevented me from attacking NG (him being a Confederacy member and all), but I did what I could.

No. 2, in your propaganda thread, I secretly pledged my support if you wanted Slovakia back. So don't talk like I had it in for you.

No. 3, the Roman Empire in RL was a solid, cohesive unit for over 600 years in the Mediterranean. It is the longest lasting and most stable Empire on record, and while it had its periods of instability, they were not increasingly destructive and/or long.

Layarteb: Just bookmark the NationStates forums. That's what I did.

Oh, and a new thread (well, it's just for background to my main nation):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9797943#post9797943

Oh yeah I did that long ago Rome. I am just saying the NS skin is fucked up too. The imgaes are wacky and some are missing.

I am with Celtayoshi on this forum thing. The links are all busted, half the crap in the windows isn't showing up. Do they need some new programmers or what?


-Hawdawg