'Earth II' - Revitalization - Page 60
Alif Laam Miim
19-06-2006, 20:11
Please stop the BS...
if you're willing to fight for the land, just start an RP thread! Whining and arguing over whether you can or cannot isn't going to solve the problem. Just get on to the fighting or the diplomacy!
That said, I'm not certain what's so valuable about a war [or argument] over Antarctic possessions - what exactly makes those territories so nice? the penguins? the ice? the resources [coal and oil deposits are prospects so I'll believe this...]? the people [this I won't believe]? the fun of war? all of the above?
Dweladelfia prime
19-06-2006, 20:14
Please stop the BS...
if you're willing to fight for the land, just start an RP thread! Whining and arguing over whether you can or cannot isn't going to solve the problem. Just get on to the fighting or the diplomacy!
That said, I'm not certain what's so valuable about a war [or argument] over Antarctic possessions - what exactly makes those territories so nice? the penguins? the ice? the resources [coal and oil deposits are prospects so I'll believe this...]? the people [this I won't believe]? the fun of war? all of the above?
A. Im not the one whining about me invading him. He is.
B. Antarctica is basicly the only place I can ever get land. If I could get some real land somewere else in the E2 world Id give all my antartica and for it. But, no nobody wants to trade. So I continue my quest to dominate antartica.
I assume you mean to say that it doesn't mean you can't invade me to get it back.
But I would ask you if you ever have any intention of playing Earth II seriously. By seriously, I mean running your nation in a fair facsimile of a RL nation. Because you have heretofore played Earth II as though it was some kind of video game where your off-the-cuff choices have no consequence. Instead, you make empty threats of consequence to others. I don't believe you understand the concept.
1) An invasion - and you used the term correctly, for it is an invasive and offensive foray into my sovereign lands that you're planning - is not something a leader decides over breakfast, or casually in any way. You seems to simply see an invasion as a means to a swift and decisive end. This has never been the case. Ask Germany.
2) You quit the game, however briefly, and your popsicle empire collapsed. How you intend to conduct an invasion with any kind of cohesion after your government fell apart is beyond me and, in my opinion, beyond reason.
3) You're still ignoring the fact that this is all your own fault.
4) Your threatened invasion, and I use that term very lightly, since you have no empire and no armed forces, is a joke (unless you conveniently "forget" you collapsed - Earth II is not an XBox, son...there is no "reset" button or saving your game). You are not Dweladelfia Prime as you were before, and you cannot portray yourself as such. DP fell apart. You may start again in Earth II with whatever lands people see fit to return to you, but that doesn't mean you get a mulligan or a do-over. You get to RP a return.
Maybe in a few weeks when you have rebuilt and reorganized, you can try to invade me. If you haven't fucked yourself out of this second chance Lay has rather generously given you, that is.
Dweladelfia prime
19-06-2006, 20:29
3) You're still ignoring the fact that this is all your own fault.
I never said it wasnt. But it still dosnt mean I cant invade you. And even it my govorment did colapse that dosnt mean the equipment just disapeared. No it was still sitting there. So All I have to do is get the piolts back tin there jets. So please stop whining you are ruining this game.
I never said it wasnt. But it still dosnt mean I cant invade you. And even it my govorment did colapse that dosnt mean the equipment just disapeared. No it was still sitting there. So All I have to do is get the piolts back tin there jets. So please stop whining you are ruining this game.
The simple fact that I disagree with you doesn't mean I am whining, so stop accusing everyone who disagrees with you of whining. As for ruining the game, now you're just being a drama queen.
All you have to do is get the pilots back in their jets? Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any concept of what the Soviet Union went through after it collapsed? Do you think Russia and Ukraine and Belarus could just sweep up the equipment and soldier on as usual? They sure as fuck wouldn't be able to invade another country that took up a massive chunk of their former land. Nor do you get any of the equipment from the lands I claimed.
Your economy and government and yes, even your military, do not simply rise from the ashes and continue. Until you RP a decent return, something that realistically addresses these issues, I think I can safely ignore your tantrums.
Alif Laam Miim
19-06-2006, 20:53
1 - [DP] You're whining about him whining about you invading - it doesn't do any good.
2 - If Antarctica isn't worth the land you're trying to get, then don't press the claim; it's a worthless endeavor and honestly, I don't think it's worth the chance to lose [or win] a war over.
3 - DP can invade your [Cymrera] country if he wants. Granted, I don't think it's a good decision, but part of the concept of NS is that you are able to rule your nation in a way that you deem fit. Besides, governments after anacrhy are often states of war anyway - i.e. USA in the Revolutionary War, France in their Revolution, Greece in their Revolution, Russia in their Revolutions, most of the former colonies in their Revolutions during the mid-20th Century, and numerous others that I can't remember.
4 - Cymrea hasn't whined as much as you [DP] have whined about everything in this transition. And he might be complaining, but a lot [not everything, but a lot] of what he says carries plenty of weight. I don't think what he says should be ignored. I don't mean to be disrespectful for being so blunt, but quite frankly, you're very lucky that some of those people did return the territories that you formerly owned before your departure.
Personally, I think that this argument is a pointless waste of time. DP, you aren't likely to get your lands back - war or no war. Cymrea, you're wasting your time trying to argue your legitimacy to the lands - war or no war. Again, I don't mean to be so disrespectful when I say these things, but it sometimess seems like I'm watching children b*#$% about their toys and whose toy is whose, and just because one kid left one toy after leaving the recess room and another kid picked it up, that one kid is going to whine and the other whine with [EDIT: the other] about whose toy it is.
If you really want to get into this dispute, I'd suggest taking it to USB [with his court (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11192130)and stuff] and argue it like adults at least.
I don't understand how it is that a debate laid out in a fairly logical fashion can be dramatically denounced as whining. Personally, I find that the term is often thrown about entirely too easily by those who cannot deal with the idea of being confronted and disagreed with.
DP has every right to invade me if he chooses. That isn't in dispute. The methods in which he implies he might do it are. He can RP his own national policies however he wants...but that doesn't mean he can ignore the IC realities of his situation.
Dweladelfia prime
19-06-2006, 21:20
1 - [DP] You're whining about him whining about you invading - it doesn't do any good.
2 - If Antarctica isn't worth the land you're trying to get, then don't press the claim; it's a worthless endeavor and honestly, I don't think it's worth the chance to lose [or win] a war over.
3 - DP can invade your [Cymrera] country if he wants. Granted, I don't think it's a good decision, but part of the concept of NS is that you are able to rule your nation in a way that you deem fit. Besides, governments after anacrhy are often states of war anyway - i.e. USA in the Revolutionary War, France in their Revolution, Greece in their Revolution, Russia in their Revolutions, most of the former colonies in their Revolutions during the mid-20th Century, and numerous others that I can't remember.
4 - Cymrea hasn't whined as much as you [DP] have whined about everything in this transition. And he might be complaining, but a lot [not everything, but a lot] of what he says carries plenty of weight. I don't think what he says should be ignored. I don't mean to be disrespectful for being so blunt, but quite frankly, you're very lucky that some of those people did return the territories that you formerly owned before your departure.
Personally, I think that this argument is a pointless waste of time. DP, you aren't likely to get your lands back - war or no war. Cymrea, you're wasting your time trying to argue your legitimacy to the lands - war or no war. Again, I don't mean to be so disrespectful when I say these things, but it sometimess seems like I'm watching children b*#$% about their toys and whose toy is whose, and just because one kid left one toy after leaving the recess room and another kid picked it up, that one kid is going to whine and the other whine with [EDIT: the other] about whose toy it is.
If you really want to get into this dispute, I'd suggest taking it to USB [with his court (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11192130)and stuff] and argue it like adults at least.
Well I do have to agree that Antartica isnt worth it. I am trying to get some real land in the E2 world. So I proboly wont invade. But I do have to disagre about the me whining part. Havnt seen me whine I'll Ive been saying is I can invade him if I want. But I dont what this to trun into another flame fest, so I'll drop it.
Neuvo Rica
19-06-2006, 21:22
Alif Maam Liim is right. This is EII, please - somebody declare war. These technical debates will get us nowhere, because nobody is ever willing to back down.
Cymrea's responses to current events can be found in the Operation Ravenwing III link in my sig.
I have no reason to declare war just yet, and so I will not.
Dweladelfia prime
19-06-2006, 21:28
Alif Maam Liim is right. This is EII, please - somebody declare war. These technical debates will get us nowhere, because nobody is ever willing to back down.
Ya thats a problom with E2 everybody thinks there the most powerfull and almighty. So everything turns into an arguement.
Alif Laam Miim
19-06-2006, 21:30
Come on - if this isn't whining, then kids awfully have a lot in common with adults...
Cymrea, you replying to DP's claims sends a message to DP that it is perfectly fine with you to debate it. One post is enough to get the message across; after that, it'll be him whining, not you.
DP, it's not worth it to make a claim that you forfeited and then hope that someone will give it back to you, especially against a power that you probably have no hope to beat.
This is my last say in the matter. Anything else, and I'll shoot myself.
Neuvo Rica
19-06-2006, 21:32
@DP: Exactly, so hurry up and nuke the bugger.
edit: ... ;)
Dweladelfia prime
19-06-2006, 21:37
@DP: Exactly, so hurry up and nuke the bugger.
edit: ... ;)
LOL :D
Now, now...rolling up a big log of snow, standing it upright and writing "nook" on the side isn't going to work. :p
Lay, where is the claims list?
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 00:05
Lay, where is the claims list?
Ya we have 2 of the same threads list.
*Picks up rock, rolls into a snow ball and throws it at Cot.* :p
Ya we have 2 of the same threads list.
*Picks up rock, rolls into a snow ball and throws it at Cot.* :p
*ducks away*
*returns fire with viking battleaxe (http://www.vikingmetalworks.com/images/dubaxe01.jpg)*
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 00:17
*ducks away*
*returns fire with viking battleaxe (http://www.vikingmetalworks.com/images/dubaxe01.jpg)*
:eek:
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 00:32
ATTENTION ALL
Concerning Huahin: I have always said that people who bring the mods to our thread get tossed from E2 for good and a decision on whether or not he will be allowed back into Earth II will be made after Marimaia and I talk about the subject. I will not act without his opinion and if his opinion differs from mine then we might have a stalemate but either way, a decision is fourthcoming.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 00:33
NG will be D13 for a week or so. He talked to me on AIM about it. I asked him to post here but if he doesn't he asked me to put him on the D13 list. Remember people, whilst it is nice to post here you can ask me on TG or AIM if you can't post in time.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 00:34
Hey lay did you notice the problom with the claims list?
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 00:39
Hey lay did you notice the problom with the claims list?
You don't have to tell me twice. I saw it.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 00:40
You don't have to tell me twice. I saw it.
lol, sry.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 00:56
Whats the thread claiming Estonia? And Whos claiming it?
Whats the thread claiming Estonia? And Whos claiming it?
Bjorn is. And don't even think about it. You'd have to pass me to get to him, and I'm not letting you pass.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:04
I smell a skirmish.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:05
Bjorn is. And don't even think about it. You'd have to pass me to get to him, and I'm not letting you pass.
No Im in no condition to fight. I'm wondering if he's williing to trade. I'm tired of my freeze dried piece of land
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:07
Skirmish! Skirmish! Skirmish! Skirmish!
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:08
Skirmish! Skirmish! Skirmish! Skirmish!
You trying to get me beat up here?
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:13
I'm bored.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:15
I'm bored.
We see.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:16
What do you expect man, I'm bored out of my mind, I want to see an annihilation happen or rather a massive UPSET.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:17
What do you expect man, I'm bored out of my mind, I want to see an annihilation happen or rather a massive UPSET.
Cant do to much with a piece of Ice.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:18
Sure you can. Raise farms of penguins.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:19
Sure you can. Raise farms of penguins.
lol, but I want a bit of real land. SOmthing of nice size, rolling hills, and far green country.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:19
<-- has that
Bjornoya
20-06-2006, 01:19
Well, if you're paying attention to my tediously dull timed thread you'd realize Visara acquired nuclear arsenal within Chronosia, now we got two foreign nukes under our control (NG back in Spah was the other) Gotta catch 'em all!
Not that we'd ever use them although it does leave some smbiguity if one goes off as to whose it was. And BTW with all these nations collapsing that have nuclear weapons, what happens with them (for rest of E2)?
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:21
Well, if you're paying attention to my tediously dull timed thread you'd realize Visara acquired nuclear arsenal within Chronosia, now we got two foreign nukes under our control (NG back in Spah was the other) Gotta catch 'em all!
Not that we'd ever use them although it does leave some smbiguity if one goes off as to whose it was. And BTW with all these nations collapsing that have nuclear weapons, what happens with them (for rest of E2)?
Hopefully not what happens when the USSR collapsed.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:21
<-- has that
rub it in....... :(
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:21
rub it in....... :(
<--- has that
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:41
Bjornoya check your TGs
Bjornoya
20-06-2006, 01:49
Replied... seems like many people are having issues with land nowadays, if we knew what each other wanted it might help.
For land trades I will not be trading anything I've made a map of (Africa + Bjornoyan mainland and yes that includes Arctic Islands)
All the rest are maybes.
For what I'd be willing to trade for (i.e. stuff I want to get...) in decreasing importance: any African land now in TATO control yet, Medditeranean land, or Indian Ocean territories.
A deal that will please the most people might involve transfers between several nations rather than just 2, but would require more work to sort out.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:49
We're under 900 posts from White Tower :). Keep up the spam peoples!
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 01:50
Replied... seems like many people are having issues with land nowadays, if we knew what each other wanted it might help.
For land trades I will not be trading anything I've made a map of (Africa + Bjornoyan mainland and yes that includes Arctic Islands)
All the rest are maybes.
For what I'd be willing to trade for in decreasing importance: any African land now in TATO control yet, Medditeranean land, or Indian Ocean territories.
A deal that will please the most people might involve transfers between several nations rather than just 2, but would require more work to sort out.
You have stuff in the Med?
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:51
We're under 900 posts from White Tower :). Keep up the spam peoples!
wOOt
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:51
We're under 900 posts from White Tower :). Keep up the spam peoples!
wOOt
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:52
Ok I did my part in spaming.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 01:55
Check your TGs again.
Now that y'all have mentioned it I noticed that even though you said it was posted, I don't find Operation Ravenwing III on the front page, either. Though that might be due to DP's "come back"...?
And um...w00t. :p
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 02:13
And um...w00t. :p
:p
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 02:24
lol check your TGs again. lol
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 02:36
Za Kyokujistu (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11194996#post11194996)
Squornshelous
20-06-2006, 02:41
Za Kyokujistu (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11194996#post11194996)
I'm so glad that link doesn't lead to more videos by the Japanese Navy. :p
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 02:42
I'm so glad that link doesn't lead to more videos by the Japanese Navy. :p
:D
Alif Laam Miim
20-06-2006, 02:52
Forgive me for failing to see any point, but is there some great prize for having the most posts on this forum? Cuz I'd really like a nice vacation house in Maine :)
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 02:54
lol, there we go person that gets the most posts to beat the white tower gets all of lays land. :p
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 02:54
lol, there we go person that gets the most posts to beat the white tower gets all of lays land. :p
Yes they do, under one condition:
They have to take it from me.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 02:56
Yes they do, under one condition:
They have to take it from me.
LOL :D
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 02:59
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5tHAnZOwTcQ&search=JMSDF
Does that revive my image now?
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 03:02
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F6PojQuwDlw&search=JMSDF
Here we go, A BETTER COMMERCIAL
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 03:11
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F6PojQuwDlw&search=JMSDF
Here we go, A BETTER COMMERCIAL
If your looking for the gay naval seamen image no. But still cool.
Squornshelous
20-06-2006, 03:12
Seaman Ship!! For Great Justice!!
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 03:16
*sobbing noise*
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 03:16
OH AND!
GET TO READING MY NEWEST THREAD I POSTED.
It is a pre-lude to a lot of things to come...
Alif Laam Miim
20-06-2006, 03:18
*sobbing noise*
correction:
*snobbing noise*
you must really enjoy turning your enemies into gay seamen...
Man I'm psyched. I know Cymrea you're probably not feeling very good about it, but man was that Game 7 something- a pity it couldn't go to overtime, I thought Edmonton would surely tie it up. Those Carolina Hurricanes are a special club, and man, that Cam Ward- he looked dazed while accepting the Conn Smythe. He'll be a player for the future for sure; and United States of Brink, I think you'd agree it was a great sight seeing Rod Brind'amour hoist the Cup.
Redneck Hockey: Can You Dig It?
I'm probably the only one, but who's keeping track? Besides, next year it'll be Buffalo's or Vancouver's Cup anyway, so :p
Hirgizstan
20-06-2006, 13:17
Here's some vids of the Irish Defense Forces:
Recruiting Vid for the Reserves:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1bnqM3wuezA&search=Irish%20Defence%20Forces
General Video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xLbozfDpdII&mode=related&search=Irish%20Defence%20Forces
In the vid above I believe some of the guys are the Irish Army Rangers (Sciathan Fhiangolach an Airm).
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 14:28
Lol, it looks like you guys coppied our Go Army commercials...
Eire uses the Bullpup? Hmm...I learned something today.
Hirgy, something for you...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbR2d2BZSw
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 15:42
Hirgy, something for you...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbR2d2BZSw
LOL
Communique to Dweladelfia Prime
While we are interested to note that Dweladelfia Prime is not planning an invasion, it is believed that a formalized Non-Agression Pact would better serve both our nations.
Cymrea hereby offers the Wilkes Land Treaty - establishing Wilkes Land, formerly the Dweladelfian 7th District, as a sovereign territory of Cymrea; recognizing all other Dweladelfian holdings as sovereign territory of Dweladelfia Prime; vowing no aggressive actions from Cymrea on the Antarctic continent, with all Cymrean national citizens and properties to remain within the Wilkes Land borders and sovereign waters or in international waters; and vowing no aggressive actions from Dweladelfia Prime on the Antarctic continent, with all Dweladelfian national citizens and properties to remain outside the Wilkes Land borders and sovereign waters or in international waters.
Signed and sealed,
Meredith Aurelia Rhys-Jones
Praetor Extraterritorialis of Cymrea
19 Iunius MMVI
To Cymrea
From The Dweladlefian High Council
The Imperium would love a Non-Agression Pact. We also belive it would server or two nations. We thank the Cymrea govorment.
The signing of the Wilkes Land Treaty concludes Operation Ravenwing III.
Here's a few more. Kp.3 (drilltroppen) His Majesty the Kings Guards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mANtS97HUAs) and some footage of my home city, Bergen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_gNRtHy0rY) (taken from Mt. Ulriken). Enjoy!
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 15:50
crap it says server and not serve lol.
If you could, DP, I need to know all of the military assets I captured in the 7th District. This includes all army, navy and air force assets (not personnel) that were in the 7th District when you "collapsed".
The reason I need to know is because as per OR3, these are all now the property of Visara Corporation - a gift from Cymrea for maintaining stability in the region while Cymrean forces were in transit.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 15:56
6th Bomber Wing-Hughs AFB
10 B-2 Spirit
11th Fighter Wing-Hughs AFB
50 F-205s
8th District Fleet: Admiral Erik Hugh Wilson
Home Port: East Harbor
2 420-foot Icebreaker (WAGB)
2 399-foot Polar Class Icebreakers (WAGB)
8 378-foot High Endurance Cutter (WHEC)
3 Iorn Cross Class Distroyer
2 Hawk Class Missile Cruisers
5 282-foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) Alex Haley Class
9 270-foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) Famous Cutter Class
2 225-foot Seagoing Buoy Tender (WLB)
7 213-foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) Acushnet Class
5 210-foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) Reliance Class
10 179-foot Patrol Coastals (WPC) Cyclone Class
7 123-foot Patrol Boat (WPB) Island Class
8 87-foot Coastal Patrol Boat (WPB) Marine Protector Class
10 65-foot Small Harbor Tug (WYTL)
Air Wing:
3 Lockheed EC-130V Hercules
7 HU-25 "Guardian" Medium Range Surveillance Aircraft
20 HH-60 "Jayhawk" Medium Range Recovery Helicopter
30 HH-65A "Dolphin" Short Range Recovery Helicopter
30 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)
20 AV-8B Harrier
10 A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt II
25 AH-64 Apache
2 C-37
2 E-3 Sentry (AWACS)
10 CH/HH-3 Jolly Green Giant
10 V-22 Osprey
5 CH-46E Sea Knight
5 TH-57
15 MH-53E Sea Dragon
Small Boats:
10 47' Motor Life Boat (MLB)
20 44' Motor Life Boat (MLB)
15 41' Utility Boat (UTB)
20 38' Deployable Pursuit Boat (DPB)
20 25' Transportable Port Security Boat (TPSB)
30 Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat (RHI)
Naru Coast Gaurd
3 378-foot High Endurance Cutter (WHEC)
4 282-foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) Alex Haley Class
Air Wing
7 HH-65A "Dolphin" Short Range Recovery Helicopter
10 HH-60 "Jayhawk" Medium Range Recovery Helicopter
2 HU-25 "Guardian" Medium Range Surveillance Aircraft
5 CH-46E Sea Knight
5 A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt II
7 AH-64 Apache
Small Boats
10 47' Motor Life Boat (MLB)
10 44' Motor Life Boat (MLB)
7 Deployable Pursuit Boat (DPB)
12 25' Transportable Port Security Boat (TPSB)
10 Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat (RHI)
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Bjorn: This belongs to Visara, now.
Something for u guys in Antartica! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs3MpEAaXzY)
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 16:09
Something for u guys in Antartica! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs3MpEAaXzY)
:mad:
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 16:26
Hirgy, something for you...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbR2d2BZSw
Cotland, those are Canadian soldiers.
Look at their rifles, they arn't the British ones. They are the Cloned M4A1s, called the C-4 Rifle. Look cloesly, and you can tell that it is because it doesn't use the usual American Aim Point.
I had to debate an entire forum one time on this. The Uniform is the confusing part, as Canada and Britain uses the same MARPAT.
On Review -
I think I just mistakened this for another vid...lol...anyways, yea those are L85s/SA80s...
Cotland, those are Canadian soldiers.
Look at their rifles, they arn't the British ones. They are the Cloned M4A1s, called the C-4 Rifle. Look cloesly, and you can tell that it is because it doesn't use the usual American Aim Point.
I had to debate an entire forum one time on this. The Uniform is the confusing part, as Canada and Britain uses the same MARPAT.
No, that is an L85 (SA80), not a C8 (Canadian M4). They're Brits.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5063/soldater15rv.png
As you can see, they haven't got any mags in front of the pistol-grip, hence it isn't a M4. With the uniforms and all, it is 95% certain that these are British soldiers.
Hirgizstan
20-06-2006, 16:58
Those are SA-80's they are holding, its a 100% cert.
Also, the boat they are using, I have seen in numerous pictures of British Soldiers and Marines patrolling in the Southern ports of Iraq, even the shredded tire on the front to cushion the impact when they bump into things. The Danes do use similar uniforms though, DPM, but if you look real close you can tell a Dane from a Brit as the DPM patterns are slightly different.
And yeah Eire use the Steyr-AUG 5.56mm. Have done for a while now. Before that they used the Uzi. Irish Defense Forces are extremely well trained and equipped, they always have been.
The Canadian Forces have, since 1997, worn CADPAT - CAnadian Disruptive PATtern. Though CADPAT was inspired by a retired American officer, it predates the MARPAT.
As far as I know, the British Army has it's own pattern that they wear.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 17:18
REGARDING HUAHIN
Huahin shall not be allowed to return. It is unfortunate that this had to be done but Marimaia and I are both in agreement that he broke the cardinal rule and was foolish enough to flame a MOD in our thread. Therefore, his land will be available for free claim ON ONE CONDITION. That condition is as such: All claims MUST be RP'd. Also, please keep in mind "new" players.
Layarteb
20-06-2006, 17:19
As much as I would love to have Huahin's Canadian Islands in full, such wouldn't be fair. Therefore I shall only claim the three closest to me:
Devon Island 21,235.62 55,000.00
Ellesmere Island 29,253.81 75,767.00
Saint-Pierre and Miquelon 93.44 242.00
I will get the RP later after work. I am late for work (had to go and submit a juror questionaire or face $250 fine) so...
Spizania
20-06-2006, 17:21
I will place a claim for the Antartic Territories of Huahin, RP to come soon
Cymrea claims Victoria Island, Melville Island, King William Island, Somerset Island, and Bathurst Island...RP to come.
Cymrea also claims Banks Island and Prince of Wales Island.
Ah, hell. I'll simplify it and say Cymrea claims all of Huahin's Arctic Islands not claimed by Lay.
The Realm claims the Isle of Man
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 17:36
On Review -
I think I just mistakened this for another vid...lol...anyways, yea those are L85s/SA80s...
Also, the 8 I put in was a typo.
Spizania
20-06-2006, 17:40
I have a slight poroblem, i appear to lack the neccesary population to claim all of Huahins territories in Antartica at this time, im still 200 million people short of the 2 billion barrier, so could some agreement be made as to somehold holding the land and then me getting the remainder of the land when i reach this mark?
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 17:40
Of course. No land left for the person who has no land........
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 17:41
I have a slight poroblem, i appear to lack the neccesary population to claim all of Huahins territories in Antartica at this time, im still 200 million people short of the 2 billion barrier, so could some agreement be made as to somehold holding the land and then me getting the remainder of the land when i reach this mark?
Not a good idea. I tried that before.......
Spizania
20-06-2006, 17:42
Dwae, you are welcome to the overflow as long as you remain in a perpetual alliance with me
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 17:44
Dwae, you are welcome to the overflow as long as you remain in a perpetual alliance with me
I'm trying to move out of Antartica. But theres never any land. and when there is Im not on and when I get back on its already claimed.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488593
The URL for the RP: Operasjon "Rask Aksjon"
Neuvo Rica
20-06-2006, 17:48
Neuvo Rica lays claim to the Crozet Islands. RP coming up.
Spizania
20-06-2006, 17:50
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488594
Well then, i transfer the overflow of land to the Militant Imperium of Tyrandis, its his problem now, Lay, when you work out the new map just give him the area on the Atlantic Seaboard and work inland until i reach my territorial limit
Lay: How are you planning to RP Huahin...like a collapsed government or as a resistance of some kind? I'd like for your RP and mine to have some congruence.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 17:56
Lay: How are you planning to RP Huahin...like a collapsed government or as a resistance of some kind? I'd like for your RP and mine to have some congruence.
WTF Huahin is having a hissy fit. He ejectid and banned me from the Pacifian Allience region.
Hallo, I'm new here. Is there land for claiming here? I'm sorry for my english as german is my mother language.
I have searched and I have found that the land that was belonging to Huahin has not all been already taken. I would like to have Hans Island please.
I look at Wikipedia and it says that it is near Greenland.
Info (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Insel)
Hallo, I'm new here. Is there land for claiming here? I'm sorry for my english as german is my mother language.
Willkommen nach den Zweiten Welt. Ich glaubst nicht dass hier mehr land sind, aber Sie könnte vielleicht land kaufen von uns.
Sorry about my terrible spelling/grammar, since Norwegian is my first language.
Kaufen? Wieso? Ich hab eig kein Geld...ich denke, haste über "nationstates" Geld gesprochen? Muss ich nur "Ich gebe Cotland $40 für..." sagen?
Am I allowed to talk in German? I notice you have a germany here already.
Can I have Hans Island bitte :)
Sorry about my terrible spelling/grammar, since Norwegian is my first language.
Your German is alright :) It is good you speak norwegian and englisch and german :)
Well, we mostly go in millions and billions of dollars, but you can buy a territory from someone. Naturally, this depends on the nation selling the territory agreeing to the sale. A tip is to read the front page (charter + decrees) first.
And I think it's better to keep the communication to English here. Easier for people to understand. As for the territory, Layarteb has to confirm it first.
Ok. Is Layarteb the moderater for this?
A tip is to read the front page (charter + decrees) first.
All the information you need is there.
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 19:00
Hallo, Gloster, wie gehts? Es tut mir leid, Deutsch ist nicht mein primärsprache...Ich am ein Amerikaner, :-P, und ich weiss einige Deutschsprachig...und Ja, I bet my German looks goofy to you. :-P
Pyschotika
20-06-2006, 19:00
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8071337793166478323
God save us if we go to war with Iran...lmao
Neuvo Rica
20-06-2006, 19:14
Your German is alright :) It is good you speak norwegian and englisch and german :)
I'd be willing to give you one of my Russian territories - to encourage new players and all.
If you're interested, you can have Belgorod Oblast.
Neuvo Rica
20-06-2006, 19:17
Annexing the Crozet Islands (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11199797#post11199797)
Thank you Neuvo Rica, but I am afraid my nation is too small for the land. So says something in the the "decree" that Cotland so kindly showed me.
I would like very much Hans Island. If they are so kind to give me this (which I believe to be not owned while Huahin is gone) I would name my nationstate in "Zweiten Welt" Tartupaluk which is the inuit name for Hans Island
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 19:58
I'd be willing to give you one of my Russian territories - to encourage new players and all.
If you're interested, you can have Belgorod Oblast.
I'll take your russian lands! :) Please I really need to get out of the Antartic.
Alif Laam Miim
20-06-2006, 20:11
Regarding the island construction for manpower, please go here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487654&page=3
After reviewing, go here for embassy selection:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487539&page=6
Squornshelous
20-06-2006, 22:29
WTF Huahin is having a hissy fit. He ejectid and banned me from the Pacifian Allience region.
That's not really a huge problem. Pacifinesia was already being ripped apart by the war, the collapse of Huahin combined with one other event that will be happening pretty soon will probably put it under for good.
So what is the outcome?
Who is Huahin?
Who is Huahin?
A guy who got forumbanned for flaming the mods and thus booted permanently from Earth II. Poor schmuck... :rolleyes:
Anyone want to RP the Huahinian resistance on the Isle of Man?
I will if you want. I am waiting for Layarteb.
Dweladelfia prime
20-06-2006, 23:25
That's not really a huge problem. Pacifinesia was already being ripped apart by the war, the collapse of Huahin combined with one other event that will be happening pretty soon will probably put it under for good.
That donst explain why i was kicked from the region? SO theres no more Pacifinesia Alliance? Can you guys get control of the region and unbann me?
United States of Brink
21-06-2006, 00:03
Yay im back, kind of. Turns out it wasnt a vid card problem but rather the monitor itself that was f-ed up if you will. So the nice indian people at Dell are sending me a new one. Should be here in 5 days max. For now im using my pa's work laptop but im not sure how long i will have it. Hopefully until the new screen comes. For now, since i am done school, ill stay up late and catch up on all i missed and hopefully get some posts in.
-Brinkman
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 02:00
Legend
Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)
Huahin's Dismissal: Can be found at post 14834 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11198937&postcount=14834).
Spizania [Post 14736]: D13 removed.
Neuvo Rica [Post 14759]: I agree, just declare war or STFU.
Pyschotika [Post 14803]: Thread added.
Spizania [Post 14836]: You can claim them but you are WAY over your claim limit and you must reduce your land. See the spreadsheet.
Cymrea [Post 14839]: Claims added but you too are slightly over your land limit.
Cotland [Post 14840]: Claim added.
Cotland [Post 14847]: Thread added.
Neuvo Rica [Post 14848]: Claim added.
Spizania [Post 14849]: Thread added. Unless he posts confirmation I cannot. This part will be transferred to him if he wishes: (Antarctica (part)- 675,678.80 - 1,749,999.98). That is the green stuff in the lower right corner.
Cymrea [Post 14850]: Check your TGs about this one.
Gloster [Post 14853]: It was claimed by Cymrea in 14839.
Neuvo Rica [Post 14863]: Thread added.
Gloster [Post 14864]: You could have Belograd Oblast, it is small. You can claim anything under 50,000 square miles. Belgograd is 10,000 and change.
Spizania: What is the current area of Baker Island? I will update the spreadsheet to its current size.
Last Update: Page 983
Current Update: Page 992
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 02:04
My claims for Huahin's land will be done in Operation Preparation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487809).
Squornshelous
21-06-2006, 02:38
That donst explain why i was kicked from the region? SO theres no more Pacifinesia Alliance? Can you guys get control of the region and unbann me?
The Pacifinesia Alliance does indeed still exist for the time being.
Lay: About my land limit, please check your TGs.
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 03:04
No. Check yours.
Damn, Quickdraw! You're keyboard smokin' or what? :p
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 03:11
No, I sent them all then started writing up an RTL post. When I got the post in, I saw this thread pop up so I could respond :). Check again :).
Bjornoya
21-06-2006, 03:24
Sweet, new toys, thanks Cymrea!
I assume Visara's corporate activities will be allowed to continue in the new Cymrean sector of Antarctica?
And damn, I've never seen a country get eaten while it was still half alive like that... like wolves on fresh meat. Wow, good work!
Alif Laam Miim
21-06-2006, 03:28
Sweet, new toys, thanks Cymrea!
I assume Visara's corporate activities will be allowed to continue in the new Cymrean sector of Antarctica?
And damn, I've never seen a country get eaten while it was still half alive like that... like wolves on fresh meat. Wow, good work!
shark frenzy - haven't you ever seen one? ;)
Bjornoya
21-06-2006, 03:33
My 7 year old cousin made her father take a trip just so she could see me and my sis... right after they went to Disneyland, and after today they will be headed to China for vacation, glad I got on the schedule, feel appreciatted. Saddened by the priority though, least I'm more fun than China, but how can I compete with Disneyland?
Plus my prodigal sister has return from Venezuela for the summer... think I'll end up spending much more time with family just FYI. Oh yeah, she teaches uber-rich American kids down their and gets a helluvalot more money and respect than she would teaching in the states... makes me wonder about America's educational system.
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 03:33
My claims for Huahin's land will be done in Operation Preparation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=487809).
Cymrea and I are going to explore a different storyline as to why the islands were taken over. It's something new, something rather experimental, but we're going to see how it is, rather than the dull boring anarchy.
Layarteb
21-06-2006, 03:34
My 7 year old cousin made her father take a trip just so she could see me and my sis... right after they went to Disneyland, and after today they will be headed to China for vacation, glad I got on the schedule, feel appreciatted. Saddened by the priority though, least I'm more fun than China, but how can I compete with Disneyland?
Plus my prodigal sister has return from Venezuela for the summer... think I'll end up spendign much more time with family just FYI. Oh yeah, she teaches uber-rich American kids down their and gets a helluvalot more money and respect than she would teaching in the states... makes me wonder about America's educational system.
Easy: It sucks.
Rome West
21-06-2006, 07:03
I realize that perhaps this was lost in the shuffle, but I still have the City of Alert (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert) in my claims- I never traded that to Huahin. The proof can be found here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11082204&postcount=13920
If possible, Lay, I'd like to be able to get the rest of Ellesmere Island back.
Neuvo Rica
21-06-2006, 08:45
@DP: You can have Belgorod Oblast if Gloster dosn't want it - I'm afraid I like my other Russian territories too much to give away.
Dweladelfia prime
21-06-2006, 14:02
@DP: You can have Belgorod Oblast if Gloster dosn't want it - I'm afraid I like my other Russian territories too much to give away.
Sure I'll take it, if he dosnt want it.
Neuvo Rica
21-06-2006, 16:52
If he doesn't post by tomorrow it's yours.
Dweladelfia prime
21-06-2006, 17:20
If he doesn't post by tomorrow it's yours.
K ;)
I claim it, if what I sent a message to Neuvo Rica about is not ok. Awaiting confirmation. I would very much like some Mexican land if at all possible please. I would ask if I could just have territory number 8 which seems like Colima. But after doing some research (wikipedia :) ) I have decided to ask if I can have some islands which belong to the territory of Colima instead of the mainland.
Revillagigedo Islands (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revillagigedo-Inseln_%28Mexiko%29)
If I get that mexikan territory it would be allright for Dweldelfia to have russian lands.
Pyschotika
21-06-2006, 17:35
Es ist Deutsch..
So yea...
Was oder what? :confused:
Alif Laam Miim
21-06-2006, 18:23
A question of simple origins and intents:
How long is an EII year? 1 RL week? 1 RL day [hope not...]? 1 RL year?
Neuvo Rica
21-06-2006, 18:34
No can do with Mexico, but Belgorod Oblast is yours Gloster.
Dweladelfia prime
21-06-2006, 19:49
No can do with Mexico, but Belgorod Oblast is yours Gloster.
Arg.... Alright golster, your now balck listed by the Pacifians. lol
Hirgizstan
21-06-2006, 21:41
1 NS Year is usually classified as 1 RL Week, but most of the times RP's move as 1 NS day=1 RL day unless otherwise stated. Its confusing, but you do get used to it. Check the RP tips sticky posts for more info.
Spizania
21-06-2006, 22:32
Spizania: What is the current area of Baker Island? I will update the spreadsheet to its current size.
Approximately one hundred and five square kilometres and expansion works have been finished for the forseable future
Pyschotika
22-06-2006, 00:30
Posted in Za Kyokujitsu.
Read up!
Layarteb
22-06-2006, 01:14
I realize that perhaps this was lost in the shuffle, but I still have the City of Alert (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert) in my claims- I never traded that to Huahin. The proof can be found here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11082204&postcount=13920
If possible, Lay, I'd like to be able to get the rest of Ellesmere Island back.
I'll adjust the claims and map for the city but we cannot suceede control of Ellesmere Island.
I'll adjust the claims and map for the city but we cannot suceede control of Ellesmere Island.
Fair enough.
(Nice working of OOC and IC there)
Squornshelous
22-06-2006, 04:30
Likewise, Sachs Harbor on Banks Island, NW Territory was never given away to Huahin, and has always remained Squornshelan.
Squorn: just show me the post for that, and it's all yours, man. ;)
EDIT: Nevermind...I think it's moot, anyway, between you and me. Sachs Harbour is Squornshelan.
Squornshelous
22-06-2006, 06:02
Squorn: just show me the post for that, and it's all yours, man. ;)
EDIT: Nevermind...I think it's moot, anyway, between you and me. Sachs Harbour is Squornshelan.
Oh God, don't make me dig that up! It'd take days!
Yeah, no worries. Like I said, it'll be a moot point inside of a week, anyway. ;)
Bjornoya
22-06-2006, 08:30
@Lay & Cymrea: Huahin and I made some random research and development projects involving particle accelerators back in the day (see: BNRF), so Visara would have several 'outposts' in the region. If it is what I think it might be the Beta (scientists) would have no protection from airborne anythings, but a handful of Epsilons (security forces) might have survived and be trying to contact HQ.
I bring it up cuz I am bored as hell, taking over Estonia, or any land is becoming a dull routine, preffer something more intense.
Dweladelfia prime
22-06-2006, 21:06
Lay: I'm going to be gone for a week so put me on D13 please.
Pyschotika
22-06-2006, 21:11
EDITED
EDITED AGAIN
Because I guess that could be ill-conceived...
Sorry.
Ottoman Khaif
22-06-2006, 22:09
Yeah...
Spam
It
Up
People!
Enough with the meanless spaming....why not start up a interesting debate..like which is better New England Clam Chowder or New York Clam Chowder?
Layarteb
22-06-2006, 22:13
Obviously New York. Scheeeze why even ask that, that's like asking if Boston is a real city, the answer is so obvious that Boston is just a municipality in the future Empire of New York.
Pyschotika
22-06-2006, 22:31
But, spam is delicious!
DELICIOUS!
Never had clam chowder.
Layarteb
22-06-2006, 22:55
Cymrea and I have traded Hans Island to me for an FTA, something else, and an NAP.
The Lightning Star
22-06-2006, 23:24
Obviously New York. Scheeeze why even ask that, that's like asking if Boston is a real city, the answer is so obvious that Boston is just a municipality in the future Empire of New York.
You die now.
And it's obvious New England Clam CHOWDAH is better.
Spizania
22-06-2006, 23:33
It appears that Tyrandis doesnt want that overflow slice of Antartica, so if you could make it available for new people to claim id be very grateful
Frisbeeteria
23-06-2006, 00:32
SPAM IT UP BABY!
Yeah... Spam It Up People!
Whatever you folks might think, Earth II is on NationStates and subject to the same rules as every other thread here. I don't think Layarteb wants his nearly-15,000 topic dumped to the spam forum, but if it happens, he'll know who to blame.
Bear in mind also how fond we are of forumbans. Think about it.
Safehaven2
23-06-2006, 00:32
Hey, I'm back from my trip. Might take me a day or two to get fully back into things as I have things I have to catch up on.
Pyschotika
23-06-2006, 00:40
Whatever you folks might think, Earth II is on NationStates and subject to the same rules as every other thread here. I don't think Layarteb wants his nearly-15,000 topic dumped to the spam forum, but if it happens, he'll know who to blame.
Bear in mind also how fond we are of forumbans. Think about it.
We don't really think ill of your rules sat up here. If anything, we try to sprawl conversations. If you look, Spam sprawled the shortly lived Clam Chowder conversation :-P.
Anyways, I'll reframe from it then.
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 00:43
Whatever you folks might think, Earth II is on NationStates and subject to the same rules as every other thread here. I don't think Layarteb wants his nearly-15,000 topic dumped to the spam forum, but if it happens, he'll know who to blame.
Bear in mind also how fond we are of forumbans. Think about it.
I'm as serious as this. Want to knock it off and keep stuff off-site?
Pyschotika
23-06-2006, 00:55
Now introducing our newest member...
'The Dominion of Ezo-Karafuto' , played by Riptide Monzarc. I know he kind of went D12 in the past, but we will be working around this so that he won't fall under that again.
His territory, which mind you is still mine..he is a Dominion with-in the Immaculate Empire of Japan, will be Hokkaido, Sakhalin, and the Kuril Island Chain. The Kurils will be 'null' until I find the post of Huahin giving me the Islands. Well, yea...thats about it.
Cymrea confirms the exchange of Hans Island for a Free Trade Agreement, a formal Non-Aggression Pact, and...something else. :)
To rectify my land-limit overage, I would like to set my entire Antarctic territory aside for newcomers, including Scott and Roosevelt Islands.
*****
Also, I have just finished making extensive additions to my Cymrean Armed Forces thread, found in my sig. As it states, most of the info is OOC but still there for you to peruse.
USB: You might find it interesting to note that I made good on my promise to make the Dark Angel Cymrea's primary land-based fighter.
Doom: I've gone ahead and made the MAD.IV Imperator Cymrea's primary MBT, too.
Pyschotika
23-06-2006, 01:26
Kreynoria, if you catch this post, could you take a screenshot of the Pacifi forum where Huahin gave me Kuril? Thanks.
Bjornoya
23-06-2006, 02:55
*sigh* this is certainly not the spirit I remember back in the cheerful, youthful, and carefree days when we hit 10,000 posts but I suppose this hardcore stoicism is neccessary to make sure E2 does not cross anymore lines.
Yet even with our newfound maturity some people fail miserably to respond to simple questions in my prior posts which makes me consider the possibility that perhaps either I or they no longer exist, or more likely that these people are purposely ignoring me... jerks.
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 02:56
*sigh* this is certainly not the spirit I remember back in the cheerful, youthful, and carefree days when we hit 10,000 posts but I suppose this hardcore stoicism is neccessary to make sure E2 does not cross anymore lines.
Yet even with our newfound maturity some people fail miserably to respond to simple questions in my prior posts which makes me consider the possibility that perhaps either I or they no longer exist, or more likely that these people are purposely ignoring me... jerks.
Did I miss something?
Ottoman Khaif
23-06-2006, 03:00
Did I miss something?
I don't think so...its Bjornoya like many of us...we post random rants about stuff on this thread..so don't mind him....oh yeah he ask about some info for an rp..I think...
Bjornoya
23-06-2006, 03:01
Did I miss something?
Both of you...
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 03:31
Legend
Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)
RomeW [Post 14886]: Rome, I made Alert 20 km² for now since I can't find the area of it. If you find it let me know.
ALM [Post 14895]: Generally, 1 real-life week = 1 NS year but in RPs, times slows often to the point where 1 week = 1 NS day. Otherwise, fluidity, 1 RL week = 1 NS year.
Spizania [Post 14899]: 105 km² has been adjusted. Cool.
Squorn [Post 14903]: Okay I made it 8 km² for now since I can't find the area of it. If you find it let me know.
Bjorn [Post 14907]: If you want to get involved in the RP I have no qualms against it and I don't think Cymrea would either. A new spin would make it all the more fun, to be honest. You can RP outposts on Devon and Ellesmere if you want, just keep in mind that we will be taking over the islands.
DP [Post 14908]: D13 added.
Safehaven2 [Post 14918]: D13 removed.
Pyschotika [Post 14921]: When Riptide confirms I'll set it up.
Cymrea [Post 14922]: Lands in free claim.
Pyschotika [Post 14923]: Kurile confirmed.
Last Update: Page 992
Current Update: Page 996
Bjorn: I didn't miss it, and I certainly wasn't ignoring you. :)
Since it is a joint operation, and on Lay's thread, I thought I might take my cue from him. I've never had any qualms with your input on RPs, and in fact I enjoy working in response to them. As far as I'm concerned you can feel free to interject in any of my RPs. Same goes for pretty much anybody.
Except you, Pys. Screw you. :D
Bjornoya
23-06-2006, 04:03
Oh yeah, rarely to never take anything I say seriously. Like OK said don't mind me... but you two (Cymrea + Lay) oughta check your TGs.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
United States of Brink
23-06-2006, 04:53
1984? I enjoyed such a novel. 457 i think was better however.
Squornshelous
23-06-2006, 05:05
Squorn [Post 14903]: Okay I made it 8 km² for now since I can't find the area of it. If you find it let me know.
Yeah, that should be fine, it's really not much more than a Naval Base and a small town based around it.
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 05:39
Bjorn: I didn't miss it, and I certainly wasn't ignoring you. :)
Since it is a joint operation, and on Lay's thread, I thought I might take my cue from him. I've never had any qualms with your input on RPs, and in fact I enjoy working in response to them. As far as I'm concerned you can feel free to interject in any of my RPs. Same goes for pretty much anybody.
Except you, Pys. Screw you. :D
You know that you don't have to take your cues from me LOL, it's an open RP.
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 05:41
Oh yeah, rarely to never take anything I say seriously. Like OK said don't mind me... but you two (Cymrea + Lay) oughta check your TGs.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
I thought ignorance was bliss?
Bjornoya
23-06-2006, 05:45
I thought ignorance was bliss?
ignorance=strength
ignorance=bliss
therefore
strength=bliss
Congratulations! Your chocolate ration has been increased from 2.4 grams to 1.9 grams per day!
Brand new thread and a brand new Emperor (note: *NOT* E2 only):
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11219371#post11219371
Really looking forward to using this guy. He's going to be the one that will officially establish the "Union" here. Go ahead and ask the guy questions.
I also present this:
Sport Is The Opiate Of The Masses (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11219679#post11219679) (the story of Greece)
Hirgizstan
23-06-2006, 12:02
'1984', what a load of crap.
"Who are we at war with?"
"Eurasia...or maybe Durka-Durkastan or maybe no one coz this book is a bunch of paranoid idiocy from a communist who went to Spain to fight and realized not only that the commies were more brutal they also didn't really believe in ideological purity, so disgruntled man writes silly book about what he sees in his drug fuelled fantasies."
United States of Brink
23-06-2006, 14:17
...Still a good read.
Pyschotika
23-06-2006, 15:13
But...I thought we were friends Cymrea...
:'(
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 15:15
All agreements to Gloster will not be upheld due to the strong link between Gloster & Huahin.
Layarteb
23-06-2006, 15:35
EARTH II WORLD CUP
Hey guys, please go and vote here (http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=338) for the host of the E2 World Cup. It is between USB and Pyschotika and only 7 votes have been cast so far.
Neuvo Rica
23-06-2006, 17:03
All agreements to Gloster will not be upheld due to the strong link between Gloster & Huahin.
That means that Belgorod Oblast is yours DP.
But...I thought we were friends Cymrea...
:'(
Cry for me, bitch...show me them tears! :p
That reminds me, as soon as I hear back from Kreynoria, I will have my list of trade nations for Cymrea to post on the World Trade Routes thread.
Finished my navy write-up last night, so finally I have my whole current military done and written up! It's all there in my signature, just remember that it's mostly OOC knowledge.
Just thought you guys wanted to know that both Huahin and Gloster has been deleted from NationStates. Huahin has also apparently admitted to Pyschotika that he was Gloster via AIM. I guess that ends one series of speculations...
That also means that I need someone else to RP Huahins forces at the Isle of Man.
I'm not sure what Huahin had on the Isle of Man, but I could RP some insurgent Manx for ya. It'll be good practice for combat RPing...I haven't done any of that yet, really.
Operasjon Rask Aksjon, yes?
Hirgizstan
23-06-2006, 23:01
Cotland, I'm waiting for you to start that internal crime RP, so I can RP the criminals ;). But if you don't want to do it for a while, I'll help out RPing some of the resistance with Cymrea in this IOM thing.
Sweet. Perhaps Hirgy and I could RP rival Manx generals that can't trust each other (read: stop shooting at each other) long enough to keep the Realm from just taking over.
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 01:38
Just thought you guys wanted to know that both Huahin and Gloster has been deleted from NationStates. Huahin has also apparently admitted to Pyschotika that he was Gloster via AIM. I guess that ends one series of speculations...
What a wonderful waste - what was once a week is now forever...
On another note, the island construction for Saint Lazare has begun, and since 6 weeks is probably a long time anyway [I've got to plan ahead], I'll make the island in three weeks [gives me time to fix the map up too...].
Additionally, I'm still taking applications for embassy residency on the island. Embassies 1,3,&4 are already taken [I wonder why...], and building 34 is NOT an embassy. To those who have officially recognized Saint Lazare, you've got open spots for ya. To those who haven't, you still have those open spots. To who have and already have embassies, thanks for the calls. And for those who have contributed money and stuff, thanks from the Grand Duchy. The Duke appreciates the help.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 03:14
Stern word of advice and warning. Do NOT lie to me! I loathe liars and lies so warning!
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 04:28
Stern word of advice and warning. Do NOT lie to me! I loathe liars and lies so warning!
You're such a hypocrite. You say don't lie, but you keep spewing the blasphemy about how New York is so much "better" than Boston ;)
Ottoman Khaif
24-06-2006, 04:30
You're such a hypocrite. You say don't lie, but you keep spewing the blasphemy about how New York is so much "better" than Boston ;)
How is that a lie?
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 04:38
How is that a lie?
Because Boston is the second most awesomest city in the world. After Dubai. It's a proven fact :p
Ottoman Khaif
24-06-2006, 04:41
Because Boston is the second most awesomest city in the world. After Dubai. It's a proven fact :p
You been out too much in the sun.your thinking is off
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 04:57
Because Boston is the second most awesomest city in the world. After Dubai. It's a proven fact :p
I don't know about that opinion... I've heard Beirut is better than Dubai... :D
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 05:00
I don't know about that opinion... I've heard Beirut is better than Dubai... :D
Pfft, is Beirut the largest port in the world? I THINK NOT! Is there artificial snow in the middle of the desert in Beirut? I THINK NOT! Are the worlds two tallest buildings being constructed in Beirut? I THINK NOT! Are they building artificial islands off the coast of Beirut? I THINK NOT!
Dubai pwns Beirut. Of course, any city pwns New York :p
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 05:00
You're such a hypocrite. You say don't lie, but you keep spewing the blasphemy about how New York is so much "better" than Boston ;)
I can't help that being a fact. I mean look at the Empire of Layarteb. Layarteb City, which is real-life New York City, is populous, prosperous, and the envy of everyone out there. What can I say, I rule.
Bjornoya
24-06-2006, 05:05
Lay&Cymrea: check TGs plz
hmm... this is 14958 post in E2 but NS page says we got 15123 posts, confusing.
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 05:09
Pfft, is Beirut the largest port in the world? I THINK NOT! Is there artificial snow in the middle of the desert in Beirut? I THINK NOT! Are the worlds two tallest buildings being constructed in Beirut? I THINK NOT! Are they building artificial islands off the coast of Beirut? I THINK NOT!
Dubai pwns Beirut. Of course, any city pwns New York :p
ooc: haha... you must like infrastructure... what about people?
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 05:10
Lay&Cymrea: check TGs plz
hmm... this is 14958 post in E2 but NS page says we got 15123 posts, confusing.
Deleted posts.
Replied to your TG.
Bjornoya
24-06-2006, 05:13
A total of 165 deleted post in E2; tiny factoid to add to someone's Trivial Pursuit: E2 Edition boardgame.
Replied again.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 05:17
A total of 165 deleted post in E2; tiny factoid to add to someone's Trivial Pursuit: E2 Edition boardgame.
Replied again.
Yeah that would be about right. I'll get a post up in OpPrep now.
A total of 165 deleted post in E2; tiny factoid to add to someone's Trivial Pursuit: E2 Edition boardgame.
Replied again.
:eek: We have a boardgame now?
Dubai pwns Beirut. Of course, any city pwns New York :p
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft. Everyone knows the greatest city in the world is Rome. Nothing can beat The Eternal City.
I should also mention that one day, Buffalo will be "The City of Champions". You heard it first here. :D
United States of Brink
24-06-2006, 05:36
i wouldnt be to sure about that. Miller is good but not cup good. i dont think they have the endurance to make it that far agian to be honest, no disrespect. actually much disrespect but nothing personal. As a long time all around philly fan i have grown a deep hatred for all teams new york related, the yankees to the Islanders to the giants and mets. Im so glad jagr didnt win MVP! Although Afinaganov is my boy, he is great in NHL '06. he is actually on my first line with Vach kozlov and Saku Koviu.
Rome check it out, i actually set that shit up too. (im the ducks)
http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/dubcup.html
ps i love new york! Just not their sports teams.
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 05:37
I can't help that being a fact. I mean look at the Empire of Layarteb. Layarteb City, which is real-life New York City, is populous, prosperous, and the envy of everyone out there. What can I say, I rule.
Neo-Carthage is the envy of everyone out there.
At least it was, until some goddamn motherfuckers came and gang-raped me to death and blew up 2 years of work, and burnt Neo-Carthage to the ground...
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 05:49
Neo-Carthage is the envy of everyone out there.
At least it was, until some goddamn motherfuckers came and gang-raped me to death and blew up 2 years of work, and burnt Neo-Carthage to the ground...
Razing Layarteb City would not be an easy chore.
i wouldnt be to sure about that. Miller is good but not cup good. i dont think they have the endurance to make it that far agian to be honest, no disrespect. actually much disrespect but nothing personal. As a long time all around philly fan i have grown a deep hatred for all teams new york related, the yankees to the Islanders to the giants and mets. Im so glad jagr didnt win MVP! Although Afinaganov is my boy, he is great in NHL '06. he is actually on my first line with Vach kozlov and Saku Koviu.
Rome check it out, i actually set that shit up too. (im the ducks)
http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/dubcup.html
ps i love new york! Just not their sports teams.
Ryan Miller's 26 and- if he can *ever* perfectly dominate a game from start to finish- he could become a big-name, Stanley Cup winning goaltender. Of course, it's also congruent to the Buffalo Sabres actually landing a proven impact scorer to compliment Daniel Briere- the Sabres were done in by a lack of clutch scoring (you could argue that they were simply unlucky because of their defencemen falling like fleas but I don't buy that- when it mattered most the Hurricanes' clutch players *were* their clutch players and the Sabres had no response). I actually believe that Buffalo's going to be back in the Eastern Conference Finals and against those very Carolina Hurricanes- both teams are smartly run. In fact, I think the East is starting to look a lot like the West did several years ago- we know who the strong teams will be (Buffalo, Carolina, Ottawa, New Jersey and, if luck ever goes their way, Philadelphia) in the East, while the West is literally becoming "pick a name out of a hat, that's who their Stanley Cup Finalist will be" (the Calgary Flames made it as a sixth seed, Edmonton as an eighth, the Anaheim Mighty Ducks in 2003 as a seventh seed. Before 2003, the opposite was true. Of course, I'll be dreaming that the 2007 Final will be Vancouver and Buffalo- that's my dream matchup; and hopefully it will not be forever a dream :(.
I'm looking at the OffIceForums with interest- nice thing you've made there :). My version of NHL '06 (for GameCube) has crapped out, but I'm hoping to get another working copy for PlayStation 2. I'm glad to see you're making use of Maxim Afinogenov- I've declared the RL guy is useless: he makes a lot of moves but never finishes. Kind of like me and the ladies :(.
EDIT: I just learned that Roberto Luongo is a Vancouver Canuck! For that hack Todd Bertuzzi too! This just may be the happiest day in my life :D.
United States of Brink
24-06-2006, 06:36
Yea, it is a shame because he has so much talent and a hell of a skating ability. He either needs to find his groove or needs a different player on his wings. however i think the main thing with him is he needs to find his niche. Pick between being a play maker or a scorer, not both.
Also Philly is already starting off bad. Forsberg will be out till January recovering from surgery. Hopefully the rookies can step up like they did before (dont count the playoffs, the dissapeared) than yea we will do ok.
miller is good dont get me wrong he just needs to mature somewhat.
Id watch out for Ottawa rumor has it that elias might be heading that way. Like they dont have enough big names. I always said we should trade esche for madono. Dallas will be looking for a goalie after turko crapped out. Nitty did really well and will only get better, no point having two world class goalies.
Imagine though Phillys 4 centerman. Forsberg, Madono, Primeau, Handzues.
Reply to Edit: Van is going to be good now. Todd should be in god damn jail.
Yea, it is a shame because he has so much talent and a hell of a skating ability. He either needs to find his groove or needs a different player on his wings. however i think the main thing with him is he needs to find his niche. Pick between being a play maker or a scorer, not both.
Also Philly is already starting off bad. Forsberg will be out till January recovering from surgery. Hopefully the rookies can step up like they did before (dont count the playoffs, the dissapeared) than yea we will do ok.
miller is good dont get me wrong he just needs to mature somewhat.
Id watch out for Ottawa rumor has it that elias might be heading that way. Like they dont have enough big names. I always said we should trade esche for madono. Dallas will be looking for a goalie after turko crapped out. Nitty did really well and will only get better, no point having two world class goalies.
Imagine though Phillys 4 centerman. Forsberg, Madono, Primeau, Handzues.
Reply to Edit: Van is going to be good now. Todd should be in god damn jail.
Kelly Hrudey said he wasn't a natural goal-scorer and I believe him- although he did score 20 in the regular season. You're right that he needs to make a decision for what it is he wants to do- he probably wastes too much time on the puck because he doesn't know his role yet. It's high time he figures that out- he's 28. No more excuses.
I'd like Patrik Elias going to Ottawa- they need an impact leader like you wouldn't believe. Elias has experience in playing a vital role in New Jersey's Stanley Cup teams and would add that vital element to Ottawa's mostly regular season-heavy superstars. I also don't think Robert Esche is that bad- he did make 50 saves in Game 1 against Buffalo, I think he was more undone by a bad defence. Same thing for Marty Turco, but if next year he craps out again, he should go.
Agreed- but it's sad to think I'll probably be the only Vancouver Canuck fan who thinks Todd Bertuzzi was a disgrace to the team. He's an airhead who should have gone long, long ago.
(USB: I must log off now. Do you use any IM clients? If so, TG me)
I'd check my TGs, but I can't get on NS right now...it keeps coming up with Cannot Find Server crap.
Edmonton is, was, and always will be "The City of Champions". Buffalo will remain "The City of Hot Wings" and home to the record number of Super Bowl losses. I do like the Sabres, but Edmonchuk is my hometown.
I'm off to bed now...I have a ton of stuff to do tomorrow, including preparing a pogrom for sex offenders who have failed to register with the state. I love my job.
So I may post late tomorrow night or sometime Sunday. Very sorry for any inconvenience. I will post as soon as I can.
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 14:42
Razing Layarteb City would not be an easy chore.
Neither was raising Neo-Carthage; they had to launch chemical weapons at it, bombard it for months, and then land thousands of troops in the city, turning it into a battlefield. It wasn't so much as raised, just every building over 50 feet was blown up.
Hirgizstan
24-06-2006, 15:03
I've been to NYC, and I reckon its about the greatest city in the world. No questions.
Dubai will be pretty sweet...when its finished that is.
I would say Baghdad would also be a nice place to visit when things calm down.
But nobody mentioned Dublin...where Guiness was born...where a country was born in a post office...Dublin rocks.
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 15:22
I've been to NYC, and I reckon its about the greatest city in the world. No questions.
Dubai will be pretty sweet...when its finished that is.
I would say Baghdad would also be a nice place to visit when things calm down.
But nobody mentioned Dublin...where Guiness was born...where a country was born in a post office...Dublin rocks.
NYC is too crowded, and it's nothing but glass and concrete and iron, really. I mean, NYC has a lot of great stuff, but I don't see anything there that makes it the "best". Now, I just say Boston is the "best" because I'm from that area and it was drummed into my skull. Really, when you think about it, Boston is like a miniature New York, just with more Irish people, less black people, and more trees.
Dubai is the awesomest city ever. 'Nuff said.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 15:54
NYC is too crowded, and it's nothing but glass and concrete and iron, really. I mean, NYC has a lot of great stuff, but I don't see anything there that makes it the "best". Now, I just say Boston is the "best" because I'm from that area and it was drummed into my skull. Really, when you think about it, Boston is like a miniature New York, just with more Irish people, less black people, and more trees.
Dubai is the awesomest city ever. 'Nuff said.
NYC controls world trade, is the home of many international corporations. There's tons of concrete, glass, and iron, and people, but it's not too crowded at all. China is too crowded; India is too crowded; NYC is just right. Boston is definitely miniature but not a miniature NYC because if it were it would have some semblance of greatness. Remember in E2 Boston = Falcon City :). I renamed it hahahahaha!
Neuvo Rica
24-06-2006, 16:31
Well, at least we've ruled out Bognor Regis as world's greatest city.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 16:46
Oh yeah.
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 16:54
good lord, you guys still talking about cities? and you don't even talk about Asian cities...
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 16:56
good lord, you guys still talking about cities? and you don't even talk about Asian cities...
Why?
:)
Bjornoya
24-06-2006, 17:01
Newton, Massachusetts that's where I want to be right now.
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 17:01
Western cities are too individual-centered enterprises...
go to Asia and live in any city there; then you'll agree that the community makes them far-better places to live than any other cities in the world. I could go for amenities like nice buildings, but I'd take a shitty city with nice folk than a nice city with shitty folk any day...
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 17:03
Hell no. I want running water, paved roads, garbage service, water purification, and all those lovely things that come with western cities that are top notch. Hell, I have to boast, NYC has the best rated water in the USA. I drink it like nothing here and man it keeps me healthy :). Some eastern cities, I don't really want to drink their water.
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 17:08
Hell no. I want running water, paved roads, garbage service, water purification, and all those lovely things that come with western cities that are top notch. Hell, I have to boast, NYC has the best rated water in the USA. I drink it like nothing here and man it keeps me healthy :). Some eastern cities, I don't really want to drink their water.
you don't drink water when you go to asia... you drink SOUP :)
Ottoman Khaif
24-06-2006, 17:50
Neither was raising Neo-Carthage; they had to launch chemical weapons at it, bombard it for months, and then land thousands of troops in the city, turning it into a battlefield. It wasn't so much as raised, just every building over 50 feet was blown up.
and I take pride in that... :)
The Lightning Star
24-06-2006, 17:59
and I take pride in that... :)
Actually, you weren't the one to blow up Neo-Carthage :p
Also, Layarteb, you might think NYC water is good, but Panama water is as good as bottled water.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 18:02
I don't get the rave about bottled water, it has nothing in it at all. There are no minerals, no anti-bacterial additives, etc. They're just infested with bacteria and crap plus you won't get anything out of it. Tap water has certain chemicals added to it to kill bacteria and virus' as well as to provide stuff to help your body. NYC waters comes from way north, from the glaciers, thereby being amazing.
Ottoman Khaif
24-06-2006, 18:04
Actually, you weren't the one to blow up Neo-Carthage :p
Also, Layarteb, you might think NYC water is good, but Panama water is as good as bottled water.
Oh yes, I was...I recall firing a large amount of Cruise Missles at it..
Alif Laam Miim
24-06-2006, 18:18
I don't get the rave about bottled water, it has nothing in it at all. There are no minerals, no anti-bacterial additives, etc. They're just infested with bacteria and crap plus you won't get anything out of it. Tap water has certain chemicals added to it to kill bacteria and virus' as well as to provide stuff to help your body. NYC waters comes from way north, from the glaciers, thereby being amazing.
I never knew New York had glaciers... unless by way north, you mean to say imported water... and to add on top of that, the Hudson is a dirty mess; it reeks horribly with bad stuff and sewage...
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 19:44
I never knew New York had glaciers... unless by way north, you mean to say imported water... and to add on top of that, the Hudson is a dirty mess; it reeks horribly with bad stuff and sewage...
Indeed the Hudson is a dirty, disgusting mess. I thank NJ for the most part of that mess, especially from all the runoff created from their factories. Our waters comes from way upstate and is piped down and filtered a ton of times before it gets to the faucets. They built a third pipeline as well.
United States of Brink
24-06-2006, 20:26
Your welcomed.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:24
Sorry for my inactivity. The computer troubles are pretty much over by now. And in my abscence, Huahin is dead.
First of all, Huahin gave all of his territory to me via TG. Probably too late for that now.
Second of all Pacifinesia still exists.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:26
Are there any threads claiming Huahin's lands?
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 21:31
Kreynoria']Sorry for my inactivity. The computer troubles are pretty much over by now. And in my abscence, Huahin is dead.
First of all, Huahin gave all of his territory to me via TG. Probably too late for that now.
Second of all Pacifinesia still exists.
Aye would be all went to free claim. There are a few threads out there. Operation Preparation is his northern Arctic stuff. Spizania has one for Antarctica and NR has one also.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:37
Is there a list somewhere of which lands are still free and unclaimed and which are not? And where is Spizania's thread?
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:39
The History of Huahin thread can probably be removed.
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 21:39
Kreynoria']Is there a list somewhere of which lands are still free and unclaimed and which are not? And where is Spizania's thread?
Southern Expansion (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488594)
I think is Spiz's. Just Rockall, Antarctica (part), Roosevelt Island, and Scott Island are left. Cymrea had org. claimed Ant, RI, and SI but needed to ceede them for land area size and allocated them for new people but they're basically "Free Claim."
Layarteb
24-06-2006, 21:40
Kreynoria']The History of Huahin thread can probably be removed.
Aye next update. Do you know if he had an ORBAT anywhere? I would love to know what kind of land & air stuff he had for Ellesmere & Devon battles.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:46
Might be on the Defenses Sheet somewhere. He used planes from his storefront and used British stuff for the rest of his forces.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:47
I claim those territories except Antarctica. I am writing the RP as of the moment.
[NS]Kreynoria
24-06-2006, 21:53
Changing Hands - Claim to Rockall, Roosevelt, and Scott Islands (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11228750#post11228750)
Safehaven2
25-06-2006, 04:35
Wheres Sparta DOminion? He hasn't responded in a week.