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Duke Barol
14-04-2005, 20:07
Risky business with that Nuclear fallout blowing your way...


he he i know.if possable, that is how i want to get drawn into the war. also, if someone n00ks algeria, TN, TK, and others in the med. such as the WHOLE confederacy will be angry. then interalliance things will spark off mor and more fights.
Layarteb
14-04-2005, 20:08
Yes, I am taking Malawi.

Could someone tg with some information on this world war I keep hearing about?

Post #1
WORLD WAR OOC DISCUSSION
Duke Barol
14-04-2005, 20:18
ok, im putting in a claim for morocco. granzi is getting the deat at about 7 tonight. but my morocco thread is re activated as of now.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411459
Greater Valia
14-04-2005, 20:34
Post #1
WORLD WAR OOC DISCUSSION

Whoah there, sorry. The only thread I could find like that was the Earth II defence forces thread.
The Island of Rose
14-04-2005, 21:13
All my RPs are finished.
Layarteb
14-04-2005, 21:14
Whoah there, sorry. The only thread I could find like that was the Earth II defence forces thread.

Check that post 5.
Greater Valia
14-04-2005, 21:16
And is my claim for Malawli confirmed?
Duke Barol
14-04-2005, 21:18
can you add my morocco thread?
The Island of Rose
14-04-2005, 21:26
Layarteb, go to #nationstates on IRC. Gotta talk to ya.
BLARGistania
14-04-2005, 23:22
Lay: this one is still active: COnquest of Far Tortuga (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409271)
Russia-Borisgad
14-04-2005, 23:44
I am intrested in Earth II

So, Let me get few questions answred....

Is this a seasonal thing? for example.... Earth is built up and people choose there things and then it explodes into war and ends and another one gets started up and so on.

or is it claim all you want and kill all you like thing. and it goes on forever.

I am not a n00b or a newbie, i am just a Earth newbie ( or something ) been here for quite a while too, and this used to my puppet nation until i realized i use this almost everyday and the other one.... well i forgot and i must go and check on before i lose it.
Teh ninjas
14-04-2005, 23:50
I am willing to trade or sell the land I hold in Africa, which I think is Mauritania, to the highest bidder in either form. Actually, I'm sure it's Mauritania. And why wouldn't you want some beautiful Mauritanian real estate?

Let bidding commence.

1.6 Trillion USD?
Russia-Borisgad
15-04-2005, 00:39
.:BUMB.:

Answer? for the above posts i made.
Greater Valia
15-04-2005, 00:50
And... Not trying to sound like a broken record guys, but I would like to know if my Malawi claim is verified. I havent seen my name on the main page so thats why im asking. Thanks...
Layarteb
15-04-2005, 02:50
Patience is a virtue. If a New Yorker can have it then the rest of you ought to have it!

Yes I just finished my revolutions paper. It's on Chechnya and it's revolution in 1991 to 1996 (91 being the declaration of independence). Well let's just say that 7,500 words and 23 full pages is no laughing matter. So now that that is done, the assignments due for this weak are over with and I can see just what is going on with E2.

Cotland: Thread moved. Thank you.

Greater Valia: Have some patience man. Couldn't you see my previous post about being uber busy until Friday? Post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8668591&postcount=4227).

Elephantum: Your forum is up. The password is PM'd to you there.

Duke Barol: I am not sure I understand what you mean by your friend and their name. Just don't let your nation get the DEAT, that's all. Also see Post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8668591&postcount=4227) because you obviously didn't read it with concern to the status & Decree 12/21-day invasion.

BLARGistania: Duley noted. Thank you.

Russia-Borisgad: No Earth II is not seasonal. We all chose to have a massive World War because it has been something that has been on the table for some time now. It also isn't claim all you want, kill all you want, because we have a land-population matrix and a ceiling cap as well as a lot of members who like to meddle in the affairs of others ;). So when you wage war expect war to be waged. Also have patience man you bumped it after less than an hour.
The Lightning Star
15-04-2005, 03:24
My Second Reply:

I'll put this as simply as I can, TLS -- as you're behaving in a very myopic and holier-than-thou manner -- you have no idea what Germania is capable of and what you may potentially be dealing with. And if you think for one second that you can defeat North Germania by yourself, well that's a God Mod in itself. Bring along your allies too if you think they'll help much.

Oh, when I said "And when the grown folks talk, close your mouth", I was not referring to the age or size of a nation, but the capabilities and power of such.

And by the way, this isn't RL. Deal with what can be done or do us all a favor and quit now.

Also, just a piece of friendly advice for a nation I previously had no quarrel with until I was threatened, don't throw stones if you plan on becoming birth defect-ridden glass flatlands.

Think rationally - if you were to launch nukes at my country of such size as you claim, don't you think that many, many nations would be quite furious with the fact that E2 would turn into nothing but a world soaked with radiation?

I might add from my own experience, throwing around idle threats of nuclear war is an act of fear. Those who hide behind nuclear weapons are afraid. If you cannot defeat me conventionally, don't even bother with such petty warnings. Do not disrespect me or talk down to me and we will have no problems.

Therefore, let's end this now and save the rest of the nations from losing such a fine place to live, and turning you into a hole in the ground. Or do you wish to continue this further? I personally have said all that I will say.

The ball is in your court, sir.

I do not want to turn Earth II into a radioactive pile of dust, but saying that you can stop thousands of ICBM's hitting your territory, and saying that ,I "have no Idea what Germania is capable of." Is not a very good tactic. You do not know what I am capable of. Just because you are a member of the October Alliance, make up the large part of a continent, and are a large(in term of "power and capablity", both of which i have alot of) power, doesn't mean you can suddenly jump into Future Tech. I'm not even sure if we allow Post-modern tech! It's not that I don't wish anti-missile shields to be possible(I'd have one up in a second), but seeing how this is MT, we can't.

I am not hiding behind my nukes, and I am not trying to "talk down" to you. I am just stating things out.

Also, keep in mind...it's a friggen make-believe game!. There is no reason to act all high-and-mighty: all this is is a bunch of writers getting together to write out RP's and have fun, not act like they are king of the universe.
North Germania
15-04-2005, 08:59
OOC:

1. My economy, military, influence, alliances, technology, industry, etc. which I have worked hard on for nearly 2 years now, make it indeed impossible for you to know what I'm capable of. Furthermore, you are in no position to tell me what a good or bad tactic is. I've survived this long; I think I know quite well enough which are good and which are bad.

2. Post-Modern Tech is allowed.

3. This has nothing to do with The October Alliance. This is strictly a conversation/debate between you and me.

4. Indeed it is a game and therefore I have every right to play in the way I desire. If you call it "high-and-mighty", then call it that. Make no mistake, I'm not angry, I'm enjoying the game. Perhaps you should reconsider what is personal offense and what is game play.

This is how I play when challenged in a way I perceive to be condescending by another player. Otherwise, I'm pretty nice.

Note: I read that you did not mean to talk down to me.

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However, to put an end to this silly business, I suggest we drop the matter and leave the technologies of other players up to them unless they are a blatant godmod.

Peace?

Note 2: More often than not, former enemies make the best of allies. For quite some time, Praetor and I had quite a distaste for one another. Eventually, we worked the situation out and we're actually good friends now.

The same situation happened with Soviet Bloc.

Just something to consider.
Greater Valia
15-04-2005, 09:14
Patience is a virtue. If a New Yorker can have it then the rest of you ought to have it!

Yes I just finished my revolutions paper. It's on Chechnya and it's revolution in 1991 to 1996 (91 being the declaration of independence). Well let's just say that 7,500 words and 23 full pages is no laughing matter. So now that that is done, the assignments due for this weak are over with and I can see just what is going on with E2.

Cotland: Thread moved. Thank you.

Greater Valia: Have some patience man. Couldn't you see my previous post about being uber busy until Friday? Post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8668591&postcount=4227).

Elephantum: Your forum is up. The password is PM'd to you there.

Duke Barol: I am not sure I understand what you mean by your friend and their name. Just don't let your nation get the DEAT, that's all. Also see Post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8668591&postcount=4227) because you obviously didn't read it with concern to the status & Decree 12/21-day invasion.

BLARGistania: Duley noted. Thank you.

Russia-Borisgad: No Earth II is not seasonal. We all chose to have a massive World War because it has been something that has been on the table for some time now. It also isn't claim all you want, kill all you want, because we have a land-population matrix and a ceiling cap as well as a lot of members who like to meddle in the affairs of others ;). So when you wage war expect war to be waged. Also have patience man you bumped it after less than an hour.

Ok, thanks. Didnt mean to seem impatient even though I am :P but I jsut wanted to know before today since im going to be without internet this weekend. Guess Ill just work on getting my military organised this weekend in word...
Cotland
15-04-2005, 22:27
North Germania, check your TGs.

EDIT: Same goes for Celtayoshi.
Pushka
16-04-2005, 00:09
@Layatreb: I hear you had to write a paper on the Chechen rebellion. I had to write the same one last month. Against who was your bias turned? Rebel Chechens or their opponents?
Pushka
16-04-2005, 00:19
@North Germania: From one of the conversations i had with Laytreb i took it that E2 is happening around the year of 2008-2010 technology wise. As you can see from my speech i mean no disrespect, but purhapse you can keep in mind what year it is and what is expected of technology at that point in time. Having a fail safe anti-nuke shield is of course extremely cool, but very unrealistic. Purhapse if you could switch to a more conventional system which is possible by today's standards we would all be happy and nobody will start chanting "NOOB! GODMOD! IGNORE!" at you then all you want to do is to have a good time RPing.
Layarteb
16-04-2005, 02:34
Pushka: Well my stance on Chechnya sort of is odd. For the First Chechen War I was for them. Their goal of independence, especially in light of what the Czars and Soviets done to them was respectable. However, when they invaded Dagestan and turned to terrorism much more frequently than in the first war, I obviously do not support them. After all, they won de facto independence and blew it by invading Dagestan. To be honest, I wish the Russians were a little better at killing them. I know you guys do a great job but Basayev is just on the loose, albeit so is Osama and they aren't much different. They're both the most evil terrorists for our nations. If you want to read my paper I can show you the PDFs on both Basayev (for terrorism) and the First Chechen Revolution (for revolutions).

Earth II is modern tech. I originally stated 2008 but I was corrected on the Gameplay forum. It's actually 2010. PMT begins at 2010 and goes until like 2020ish when FT takes over.
Duke Barol
16-04-2005, 21:46
Duke Barol: I am not sure I understand what you mean by your friend and their name. Just don't let your nation get the DEAT, that's all. Also see Post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8668591&postcount=4227) because you obviously didn't read it with concern to the status & Decree 12/21-day invasion.



incase you didnt notice, i put this in about a week before the no tensions week began. i didnt finnish it untill now. but... well here is the post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8648893&postcount=4146)

EDIT:re:the deat thing. if a nation comes and invades me while im away, what can i do?
Duke Barol
16-04-2005, 21:47
i realize i may have sounded a little assholeish in that last post. im sorry. but ya see, i put that up a while ago, and it was never added to the list.
Duke Barol
16-04-2005, 21:51
Pushka: If you want to read my paper I can show you the PDFs on both Basayev (for terrorism) and the First Chechen Revolution (for revolutions).

Earth II is modern tech. I originally stated 2008 but I was corrected on the Gameplay forum. It's actually 2010. PMT begins at 2010 and goes until like 2020ish when FT takes over.

by the way, could i read the paper? im interested in such stuff
Marimaia
16-04-2005, 21:54
Well.....

There we go.

Granzi has been deleted due to inactivity.
Teh ninjas
16-04-2005, 22:08
War starts tomorrow right?
Duke Barol
16-04-2005, 22:16
War starts tomorrow right?
depends entirely on which war your talking about. the ww, no, next sat. our thing over morocco, if you still want to do it, lets say bout monday maby, i have to go to my grandfathers unveiling tomorow, so that may not be the best day for me.
Teh ninjas
16-04-2005, 22:38
I don't feel like waiting another week. Should I start a new thread or do we continue on your thread?
RomeW
16-04-2005, 23:13
depends entirely on which war your talking about. the ww, no, next sat. our thing over morocco, if you still want to do it, lets say bout monday maby, i have to go to my grandfathers unveiling tomorow, so that may not be the best day for me.

The World War, to my knowledge, begins Sunday.
Cotland
16-04-2005, 23:22
The World War, to my knowledge, begins Sunday.
Yeah, that's what I was lead to believe too.....
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 00:18
im realy confused. which war are we talking about? ww3 i thought began in a week. our thing for morocco begins on say, monday. i think...

:headbang: :headbang: :confused: :headbang: :headbang:
Cotland
17-04-2005, 00:25
im realy confused. which war are we talking about? ww3 i thought began in a week. our thing for morocco begins on say, monday. i think...

:headbang: :headbang: :confused: :headbang: :headbang:

The World War starts at 00.00 GMT Sunday, which is in about 35 minutes. Good luck to all of you. j/k
Teh ninjas
17-04-2005, 00:48
Five minutes I guess then. I'll post in the Morocco thread soon.
Cotland
17-04-2005, 01:09
W A R ! ! !

j/k
Layarteb
17-04-2005, 01:11
Lest it be known RomeW is the sole moderator of World War. Seek out him for WW related questions. Marimaia and I are still co-mods of E2 but we are not entirely neutral so we can't moderate World War as we'll have a bias.
Squornshelous
17-04-2005, 01:24
Lay, go ahead and move my Submarine thread from Pre-war to war when you get the chance.
Layarteb
17-04-2005, 01:31
Lay, go ahead and move my Submarine thread from Pre-war to war when you get the chance.

RomeW will be handling the WW thread so he can put it where he needs it.
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 02:28
lay, re: morocco, add that to dec12/21days. as you saw, htat was well before.
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 02:36
romew: when are the attack lists gonna be posted? are they? do we just engage another nation? do we talk it over first? will htere be any clear winner of the war? when will we break out the nukes? will there be only atomic, nuclear, thermonuclear, hydrogen, gamma bombs? any of the above? all?
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 03:22
rc members: check the forum
-New Jyria-
17-04-2005, 04:58
Is there an actual war thread as of now? I can't find one.

Or... Are we just... sitting... waiting... for something to happen...
Cotland
17-04-2005, 12:04
romew: when are the attack lists gonna be posted? are they? do we just engage another nation? do we talk it over first? will htere be any clear winner of the war? when will we break out the nukes? will there be only atomic, nuclear, thermonuclear, hydrogen, gamma bombs? any of the above? all?
I thought that we weren't suppose to turn Earth II into a smoking piee of glass...
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 13:15
I thought that we weren't suppose to turn Earth II into a smoking piee of glass...
:cool: bring your sun glasses. lol. i know, i jsut want to know if we will have ne fire works ;) but realy, i was just wondering...
Duke Barol
17-04-2005, 13:22
im gonna be doing alot of embasy exchanges soon. heres the link
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8694029#post8694029
Neuvo Rica
17-04-2005, 14:39
Somethings going to happen soon
Neuvo Rica
17-04-2005, 14:40
yup ... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany second soon...
Elephantum
17-04-2005, 22:28
LET IT BE KNOWN
I will not be here as of tommorow, and will continue not being here until tuesday the 26th(?). If you plan on invading me, attacking me, or doing anything on those lines, kindly refrain until i can respond
The Lightning Star
18-04-2005, 01:36
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8697740&postcount=65
Somali-Russia
18-04-2005, 04:37
We wish to be part of Earth II.

We call for teh ninjas and us to negotiate the peaceful handover of Somalia to its people, we no longer wish to be part of Teh ninjas and call for Independence from teh Ninjas soon as possiple.

we are working with teh ninjas in order to reach this point.

We thank you all.
RomeW
18-04-2005, 09:28
Okay, well, officially the war has begun. I'm going to start the general war thread tommorow as I don't have the time now (sorry), but for all intents and purposes, it has begun. You guys should repost the links here (until I get the thread up) that deal with the war. Thanks.
RomeW
19-04-2005, 07:00
************************Attention**************************

World War Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8706847#post8706847

This is where all the action regarding the war will be conducted.
Hawdawg
19-04-2005, 13:48
************************Attention**************************

World War Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8706847#post8706847

This is where all the action regarding the war will be conducted.

Reading this I thought we were going to have multiple threads to track each theater in the war. (I.E. European, African, Asian, North American, etc.) Are will still planning on doing this? Otherwise the over-abundance of information will clog the thread.

Just a thought.


-Hawdawg
The Knight Templars
19-04-2005, 17:45
To get moving, the voting for the new pope in the Conclave thread will end in 48 hours. Normally, one would need a 3/4 majority, but theres been something of a dreadlock, and since naming a pope would be nice, the one with the most votes will have to win. Everybody can vote, of course, but so far only about 10 have participated
Cotland
19-04-2005, 19:39
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020

"Testing the armory" - Feel free to respond.
Pushka
19-04-2005, 19:48
From now on i would like to be known in E2 as Union of Communist Republics or UCR. I request apropriet changes to be made on the maps and so on.
RomeW
19-04-2005, 20:32
Reading this I thought we were going to have multiple threads to track each theater in the war. (I.E. European, African, Asian, North American, etc.) Are will still planning on doing this? Otherwise the over-abundance of information will clog the thread.

Just a thought.


-Hawdawg

Well, we still can- they'll just all be linked back to that thread. I want to make sure that everything is organized and can be found easily.
GnOoLoCoPeLep
20-04-2005, 00:19
Well, we still can- they'll just all be linked back to that thread. I want to make sure that everything is organized and can be found easily.

What I think he's talking about is something that looks like this:

African Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

Asian Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

European Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

North American Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

Pacific Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

South American Theatre
link
link
link
link
link

In the central War thread, just so everything's more organized. Of course, you probably knew this already. In which case I've wasted my time.
Tyrandis
20-04-2005, 01:34
ATTENTION ALL THOSE WISHING TO ASSAULT GRANZI OR IDF

I am willing to trade portions of the Democratic Republic of the Congo in return for the security of Granzi's possessions and Eretz Israel. TG me for more information.
BLARGistania
20-04-2005, 05:40
I was perusing through the current terrirtory assignments and maps and I noticed what I think may have been a misstake on someone's part.

I think I laid claim to Baja California, the Baja California Sur, Arizona (South) and The Channel Islands.

RomeW is currently labeled as controlling Baja California and the Baja Sur.



If I have made a mistake, correct me but that is what I thought had happened.
RomeW
20-04-2005, 05:51
BLARG, is there any way that I can just keep them anyway? I really like what I have.

EDIT- this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8588884&postcount=4) says that you're not going for that land.
BLARGistania
20-04-2005, 06:41
okay, all yours.

I was looking for my post but couldn't find it.
RomeW
20-04-2005, 06:46
okay, all yours.

I was looking for my post but couldn't find it.

Thanks. If you want, we can enter some sort of economic agreement so that you can have access to the resources there.
BLARGistania
20-04-2005, 07:43
Thanks. If you want, we can enter some sort of economic agreement so that you can have access to the resources there.


that would be very good. Mutual trade agreement or smthn.

Give me a few days to write something up. I still have to work out the treaty with Tanuio. Unless you want to write it, that is.
RomeW
20-04-2005, 07:52
Well, let me know what you'd like and then we'll go from there. We shouldn't write something "official" until we've agreed upon the details. Take your time too- I'm in no rush.
Layarteb
20-04-2005, 14:40
Sorry guys, been super busy w/ work. Update coming tonight.
Greater Valia
20-04-2005, 16:46
Could you add my South African alliance thread to the alliance list? There hasnt been much interest but hopefully adding it will revitalize it. Thanks.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413148 <--- link to thread.
Layarteb
21-04-2005, 08:03
Notice that all World War threads will go to the World War Page and not our RP listing. So post your threads in that thread alright.

Duke Barol: If you get the DEAT and your land goes bye-bye or you go past 28 days of NS inactivity then you just have to start from scratch again to be honest. It happened to Yreffej twice, DA, Kahta, and a few others.

Shamil Basayev Paper (Terrorism Class) (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/School/CRJ492_Paper.pdf)

The Chechen Revolution Paper (Revolutions Class) (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/School/POL313_Paper.pdf)

RomeW: Some threads for you to help out.

Tale of the Time: Ancient Secrets Found in Yucatán... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409829)
Invasion of Morocco. The real one Earth II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411459)
Testing the armory (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)
Squornshelan Submarine Disaster! (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409742)

Pushka: UCR you are on the claims just not the maps yet.

Greater Vailia: Would you also like a forum at the MB?

Just FYI. I am very cranky lately. I haven't been getting much sleep because of stupid allergies and right now my nose is like a faucet and the stupid valve is in the wide open position so if I am jumpy just disregard it as in the past week the amount of sleep I have gotten is abyssmal. Thank you.
The Lightning Star
21-04-2005, 12:54
Whew! I think I've finally mostly recovered.

Anyhoo, I would like an update on what the hell is going on.

Thank you! ^^
Hyperbia
21-04-2005, 12:58
Whew! I think I've finally mostly recovered.

Anyhoo, I would like an update on what the hell is going on.

Thank you! ^^

Welcome to the World War man, probably a good idea to ready your defenses beofre some n00b nukez j00.
Hawdawg
21-04-2005, 13:01
Just FYI. I am very cranky lately. I haven't been getting much sleep because of stupid allergies and right now my nose is like a faucet and the stupid valve is in the wide open position so if I am jumpy just disregard it as in the past week the amount of sleep I have gotten is abyssmal. Thank you.

I feel ya. I am in the same boat. I used to take the allergy shots myself but they got soo expensive I quit and just take Claritin D's like they are going out of style.

-Hawdawg
Cotland
21-04-2005, 14:55
Just FYI, I've purchased Arkhangelsk Oblast from Gintonpar. The invasion's called off. Sorry folks. ^_^

Layarteb, I believe that you will find the confirmation you need in your TGs. If not, I'll send the TG I got from Gintonpar via AIM or something.
Layarteb
21-04-2005, 15:04
I feel ya. I am in the same boat. I used to take the allergy shots myself but they got soo expensive I quit and just take Claritin D's like they are going out of style.

-Hawdawg

I'm downing Allovert myself. Claritin stopped working for me ages ago. Albeit right now I'm not doing so bad. My nose is clogged but I can breathe a little bit, nothing dripping, throat fine. Give it 30 minute I say. Damn Pollen To Hell!!!! Or as Cartman says, "YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!"

Yes Cotland I did.
Greater Valia
21-04-2005, 16:41
Greater Valia: Would you also like a forum at the MB?

Ill wait to see if interest picks up; then ill let you know.
Layarteb
21-04-2005, 19:35
Ill wait to see if interest picks up; then ill let you know.

Yes sir!
Greater Valia
21-04-2005, 19:37
Yes sir!

Thank you! :D
Duke Barol
22-04-2005, 02:57
Duke Barol:[/b] If you get the DEAT and your land goes bye-bye or you go past 28 days of NS inactivity then you just have to start from scratch again to be honest. It happened to Yreffej twice, DA, Kahta, and a few others.

im not worried about gettin the deat, just people invadin when im not there. i plan on having a friend post for me every now and then
Duke Barol
22-04-2005, 03:07
gues what tomorow is (4/22)!!! its my birth day!!! yayay!!!!

happy birth day to me, happy birth day to me, happy birth day to the duke!, happy birth day to me!!! SING ALONG!!!!
Hawdawg
22-04-2005, 03:59
Alright roll up your sleeves gentlemen, its time to box. Posted in WW thread if anybodies interested.


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
23-04-2005, 02:42
World War started off pretty slow. It seems that a lot of people were just "talk."
Hawdawg
23-04-2005, 03:29
World War started off pretty slow. It seems that a lot of people were just "talk."

Hey I post when I can. I have job I have to take care of during the day. NS doesn't pay the bills. I also think I am the first Beligerent to post anything too!


FYI to all Earth II Nations. I have been called away on Business Saturday and Sunday. I will not be able to check anything until late Sunday night. My war thread will be updated then.


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
23-04-2005, 03:37
Hey I post when I can. I have job I have to take care of during the day. NS doesn't pay the bills. I also think I am the first Beligerent to post anything too!


FYI to all Earth II Nations. I have been called away on Business Saturday and Sunday. I will not be able to check anything until late Sunday night. My war thread will be updated then.


-Hawdawg

Bring me back a shot glass.
Cotland
23-04-2005, 10:49
World War started off pretty slow. It seems that a lot of people were just "talk."
I'm still waiting for TLS...
Neuvo Rica
23-04-2005, 15:00
I claim Kazakhstan. I think decree 12 claiming is back on, forgive me if I am wrong. Once this gets verified i will do an rp.
Somali-Russia
23-04-2005, 15:15
SOMALI-RUSSIA/TEH Ninjan/all that comes with them RP.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413342&page=1&pp=15
GnOoLoCoPeLep
23-04-2005, 16:02
World War started off pretty slow. It seems that a lot of people were just "talk."

I can't get my military right and according to Rome, we can't post until we have our militaries. If this rule wasn't in place I'd be all over the place.
Yelm
23-04-2005, 19:17
Lay; TKT has given me control of all of his african territories for something else in exchange. He should be posting soon to confirm.
RomeW
23-04-2005, 21:34
I can't get my military right and according to Rome, we can't post until we have our militaries. If this rule wasn't in place I'd be all over the place.

Pelep, how close are you to finishing it? You don't necessarily *have* to be that detailed.

However, in light of this, does this rule need to be altered a little bit to "get things moving"?
Pushka
23-04-2005, 22:28
Is there any new free territory left anythere?
Pushka
23-04-2005, 22:29
I'm still waiting for TLS...

Yeah i'll probably end up in war with TLS as well, i did already EMP their capitol. Once he "finds out" that it was me i guess it will be war.
Varsola
23-04-2005, 22:30
Is there any new free territory left anythere?

If Yemen is still left, I'm taking it.
Teh ninjas
23-04-2005, 22:32
If Yemen is still left, I'm taking it.

Yemen will be defended by me, GMB, Tyrandis and other NATO nations. I'd advise you let Yemen be.
Varsola
23-04-2005, 22:33
Yemen will be defended by me, GMB, Tyrandis and other NATO nations. I'd advise you let Yemen be.

No, but since Granzi was deleted, he doesn't exist. I could claim it without an RP, right?

Otherwise...I'll let it be.
Teh ninjas
23-04-2005, 22:37
No, but since Granzi was deleted, he doesn't exist. I could claim it without an RP, right?

Otherwise...I'll let it be.

Yes he was deleted, but his citizens still remain so, you could certianly RP for it. But then you'd get into a war and all. I'm already bogged down but I'm certainly more than capable to take one or two more threaters of operations. It's still protected territory.
Varsola
23-04-2005, 22:38
Yes he was deleted, but his citizens still remain so, you could certianly RP for it. But then you'd get into a war and all. I'm already bogged down but I'm certainly more than capable to take one or two more threaters of operations. It's still protected territory.

Darn it. I was hoping I could get some more land.
Teh ninjas
23-04-2005, 23:05
Binthor is inactive and he has a lot of land yet unclaimed. Most of it is in East Africa I think.
Pushka
23-04-2005, 23:20
Since Binthor has been inactive for 20 days i would like to claim the parts of Nigeria and Gabon that he owns. As well as Angola.
Pushka
23-04-2005, 23:24
Also i would like to get Iran from Industrial Experiments and if i can get more land i would also like to get United Arab States as much of them as i can.
GnOoLoCoPeLep
23-04-2005, 23:42
Pelep, how close are you to finishing it? You don't necessarily *have* to be that detailed.

However, in light of this, does this rule need to be altered a little bit to "get things moving"?

It's not even that I'm being that detailed, it's just that I spend so much money on the military that I'm having trouble allocating the money to the proper branches and distributing it evenly. That and my knowledge of the military is limited. I can figure the stuff out, but it hinders the process when you have to look something up every fifteen minutes and I haven't even thought about logistics yet.
Cotland
24-04-2005, 00:12
Think logical. If your nation is an island nation, you have a large navy, moderate to large air force and small army. If you are a landlocked nation, you have no navy, but a moderate to large army and air force. If you have a nation with a relatively large coastline, but also large areas of land, use the easy way and divide your defense budget on three. One third to the army, one third to the navy and one third to the air force. That's just about the best explanation I can give you. I hope it will help you.
RomeW
24-04-2005, 00:14
It's not even that I'm being that detailed, it's just that I spend so much money on the military that I'm having trouble allocating the money to the proper branches and distributing it evenly. That and my knowledge of the military is limited. I can figure the stuff out, but it hinders the process when you have to look something up every fifteen minutes and I haven't even thought about logistics yet.

All I really care about- at least with logistics- is numbers, and the point of listing what ships, tanks, etc. that you have is to make sure that we know what you have so that when you use it you didn't just "invent" it. However, I am considering altering the rule so that only the forces that are actually deployed get listed as opposed to everything. Thoughts?
GnOoLoCoPeLep
24-04-2005, 01:42
Cotland: I have the largest amount of land in Earth II, I believe. Which includes the entire West Coast of South America and fifty percent of the East Coast. My problem is I have more money than I know what to do with, $32,000,000,000,000 to be specific. I'll get it done, it's just taking longer than I expected.

Rome: I'll get it done in time, you don't need to go changing the rules just so I can get in quicker. Unless, that is, you really want to :).
RomeW
24-04-2005, 02:30
Rome: I'll get it done in time, you don't need to go changing the rules just so I can get in quicker. Unless, that is, you really want to :).

Is that a wink-wink-nudge-nudge I sense? Because it won't work. ;)

Anyway, if you say you can get it done quickly then do so- I won't change the rule then. If later you're finding that it's taking too long then I may review the rule.
Gintonpar
24-04-2005, 21:47
I formally cede Archangelensk Oblast to Cotland for an already disclosed sum.

OOC: sorry guys but exams are catching up with me and I really don't have much time. Just consider me neutral in any wars:)
Greater Valia
24-04-2005, 21:49
Since Binthor is Sec. 12 is it ok if I take some of his territory? (in an RP)
Duke Barol
24-04-2005, 21:54
I will be claiming Nigeria and Angola. They are both binthors and he is dec 12. i have backing for this and i will do so in an rp once i figure out the way i wish to do this. (cough morocco cough)
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 00:47
I will be claiming Nigeria and Angola. They are both binthors and he is dec 12. i have backing for this and i will do so in an rp once i figure out the way i wish to do this. (cough morocco cough)

I wanted Angola, perhaps we could come to some sort of an agreement? Military alliance perhaps to divide his territory? Please let me know if this is acceptable.
Hawdawg
25-04-2005, 02:09
NOTICE:

I will update WW thread tomorrow, I have had an injury to my eye and I am having trouble seeing for the time being. I will visit the Optometrist tomorrow and see if he can get the piece of metal out of my eye for me until till then no more computer.

-Hawdawg
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 13:05
I wanted Angola, perhaps we could come to some sort of an agreement? Military alliance perhaps to divide his territory? Please let me know if this is acceptable.

that would be great. i just want the half or something that the coast is on. or we could split the coast. i need another port for my navy
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 13:40
that would be great. i just want the half or something that the coast is on. or we could split the coast. i need another port for my navy

I really wanted Angola's coast for a navy... But maybe we could reach an agreement... maybe share the port cities?
The Knight Templars
25-04-2005, 17:03
My apologies to Yelm, since i should have posted this earlier . ..
All African territories belonging to The Knight Templars are given to Yelm. This should include Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambiqu and Dijbouti, as southern Algeria was given to Carthage a while ago, and should be reflected as such.
Screw Africa
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 17:14
I really wanted Angola's coast for a navy... But maybe we could reach an agreement... maybe share the port cities?

sure. could we also do some tech shareing.
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 17:15
My apologies to Yelm, since i should have posted this earlier . ..
All African territories belonging to The Knight Templars are given to Yelm. This should include Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambiqu and Dijbouti, as southern Algeria was given to Carthage a while ago, and should be reflected as such.
Screw Africa

carthage and tls are one and the same, correct?
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 17:17
what are some ways of taking a nation that is at d12, besides invading?
Greenmanbry
25-04-2005, 17:32
what are some ways of taking a nation that is at d12, besides invading?

Roleplay. In other words, invasion is the only way.

carthage and tls are one and the same, correct?

Correct.
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 17:36
Who are allies of binthor?
Cotland
25-04-2005, 17:58
Who are allies of binthor?
The only one I know of is the Roman Confederacy, and no-one objected when I took some of his land.
Layarteb
25-04-2005, 18:35
Keep in mind that in this time of World War, decree 12 & 21 day claims are part of World War.

Neuvo Rica: You can claim it without RP, it's open land.

Somali-Russia: Post that thread with Teh Ninjas over at World War so RomeW knows what is going on.

Yelm & TKT: Surely done. But I don't have any record of you giving TLS southern Algeria. It is still under your control. Was it posted here and affirmed by all parties?

Pushka: See red statement above.

Duke Barol: See red statement above.

Greenmanbry: Invasion isn't the only way. You could RP annexation peacefully or a revolution in there with rebels siding with you, etc. There are many possibilities.

To NATO Bullies: Claim Yemen if you want to protect it so much rather than bully everyone else from getting it.
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 19:35
My apologies to Yelm, since i should have posted this earlier . ..
All African territories belonging to The Knight Templars are given to Yelm. This should include Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambiqu and Dijbouti, as southern Algeria was given to Carthage a while ago, and should be reflected as such.
Screw Africa

Too bad for Yelm since most of your territories in Africa I had invasion plans for.
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 19:39
Who are allies of binthor?

If you have any territories open to the sea I will require some of your logistics vessles for transporting my ground forces to Angola. Either that or I invade by train...
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 19:40
Keep in mind that in this time of World War, decree 12 & 21 day claims are part of World War.

Thats fine, I need room to expand...
Pushka
25-04-2005, 20:10
Okay then i am gonna be invading Iran and United Arab States for now. Industrial Experiments is the name of the nation i am taking that land from.
Marimaia
25-04-2005, 20:21
Okay guys, just so you know....

West Mongolia (aka Chinkopodia) is under Decree 12, so NeoSuun Zhonghua is going to move in and unite Mongolia under our banner.

There will also be a move made on the Marianas and Guam; all will take place in a soon-to-be-posted thread as part of the World War.
Neuvo Rica
25-04-2005, 20:23
Neuvo Rica has invaded Kazakhstan ...
Duke Barol
25-04-2005, 20:24
If you have any territories open to the sea I will require some of your logistics vessles for transporting my ground forces to Angola. Either that or I invade by train...


while i realy want to see how you would do it by train, i have several options:


SNG-12 Landing Craft

[Capacity: 1,000 soldiers; up to 40 tanks or 50 IFVs or 65 amphibious APCs in addition to the soldiers

we could use them. or we could begin a mass air drop followed by a bombardment from the sea. (or vice versa)



LAY:just wondering but, how does that affect the taking over of the lands?
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 20:31
while i realy want to see how you would do it by train First I would have to send in Tornado strike fighters armed with anti-runway munitions to take out his air capabilities. Then would most likely send in airborne divisions to secure all train lines/stations (or major airports I havent destroyed). Then hope they can hold off until the bulk of my Army arrives via train.

LAY:just wondering but, how does that affect the taking over of the lands?

Well, its simple, my nation is landlocked (Malawli) and just storming the beaches seems simpler than the plan I just laid out. That and I dont share a border with Angola.
The Island of Rose
25-04-2005, 20:59
To NATO Bullies: Claim Yemen if you want to protect it so much rather than bully everyone else from getting it.

(Claims Yemen) (There, it's mine now x.x)
Layarteb
25-04-2005, 21:25
LAY:just wondering but, how does that affect the taking over of the lands?

I have no clue what you are talking about or what you are asking? Could you please clarify.
The Island of Rose
25-04-2005, 21:48
(Claims Yemen) (There, it's mine now x.x)

Err... Yemen, mine x.x
Duke Barol
26-04-2005, 01:37
First I would have to send in Tornado strike fighters armed with anti-runway munitions to take out his air capabilities. Then would most likely send in airborne divisions to secure all train lines/stations (or major airports I havent destroyed). Then hope they can hold off until the bulk of my Army arrives via train.



Well, its simple, my nation is landlocked (Malawli) and just storming the beaches seems simpler than the plan I just laid out. That and I dont share a border with Angola.

Well, we can just use my ships, i have 100 total. plus hte air drops, that should be enough.

Lay: the decree 12 not counting
Layarteb
26-04-2005, 03:59
TIOR: Just had to make sure you were serious. I'll add it tomorrow, don't let me forget.

DB: That means that if you do any D12 or 21-day invasions they are considered part of World War so the thread needs to be over there and it's in that context.
Neuvo Rica
26-04-2005, 16:10
Neuvo rica claims Nepal
Greenmanbry
26-04-2005, 16:20
Since I already have a huge base on the Granzian Maldives, I might as well claim the entire Maldives.

So yeah, put me up for the Maldives. Thanks, Lay.
Duke Barol
26-04-2005, 17:16
TIOR: Just had to make sure you were serious. I'll add it tomorrow, don't let me forget.

DB: That means that if you do any D12 or 21-day invasions they are considered part of World War so the thread needs to be over there and it's in that context.


ok, thank you very much.
The Knight Templars
26-04-2005, 17:24
Well, it was posted on here, and I think TLS mentioned it a few times . . . it was a while ago, but I thought it was on here. Quick post, sry i didnt have time to properly look for it
And valia, good luck with that. Yelm can be a tough . . . adversary
Greater Valia
26-04-2005, 20:42
FYI Duke Barol, im planning on launching the invasion of Angola at around 7:00 P.M. EST tonight.
Greater Valia
26-04-2005, 20:45
Well, it was posted on here, and I think TLS mentioned it a few times . . . it was a while ago, but I thought it was on here. Quick post, sry i didnt have time to properly look for it
And valia, good luck with that. Yelm can be a tough . . . adversary

Would you care to elaborate on that? Considering im many times bigger and have an joint-military operation with other unamed nations in the works I would really like to know how he will plan on keeping Mozambique. (ATTN Yelm, I would be willing to rp a diplomatic solution to this as I really want a port on the Indian Ocean. You can TG me or contact me on AIM if in online.)
Greater Valia
26-04-2005, 20:53
And yet another post, who owns Comoros? It isnt listed on any of the maps and if no one owns it I would like to claim it. And since Nepal is represented in white on the map of central Asia does that mean its up for grabs? If so I will claim it.
Cotland
26-04-2005, 21:23
And yet another post, who owns Comoros? It isnt listed on any of the maps and if no one owns it I would like to claim it. And since Nepal is represented in white on the map of central Asia does that mean its up for grabs? If so I will claim it.
If you read what's posted, you'll see that Nuevo Rica claimed Nepal seven hours ago.
RomeW
26-04-2005, 21:30
OT:

So I updated my Economic Factbook (for my main NS territories, to which I added Egypt, central Turkey, Cyprus and Israel), and my GDP goes down. Go figure.
Greater Valia
26-04-2005, 21:51
If you read what's posted, you'll see that Nuevo Rica claimed Nepal seven hours ago.

Oh well. I just went by the map. Anyways, is Comoros still open?
Zeeeland
26-04-2005, 22:45
:) heh heh zeeeland is alive and kicking again!!! bad luck fools looking for more decree 12 territory muhahahahaha (reason. exotic holiday)
Zeeeland
26-04-2005, 23:01
did i absent mindly forget the GREAT WAR??? silly me!!! good thing nothing happened to my country (gulp0 :eek:
RomeW
26-04-2005, 23:17
Oh, don't worry- we've already nuked your nation fifty times over, and have unleashed the bubonic plague just to make sure everything's gone. Other than that, nothing's happened :D

[/obligatory]
Zeeeland
26-04-2005, 23:39
what while i was just out to get a cup of tea? ah well atleast the whole world got destroyed then. as the blast radius of 50 nukes would destroy atleast the northern hemphisphere :)
RomeW
26-04-2005, 23:40
what while i was just out to get a cup of tea? ah well atleast the whole world got destroyed then. as the blast radius of 50 nukes would destroy atleast the northern hemphisphere :)

Not my nation with its super-duper Nuclear Protection Shield! :D
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 00:08
LOL. well theN my people were bioligally superior to anyone else and SURVIVED THE NUCLEAR WINTER. SO NEH...... oh ps Layeteb add this to the threads http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8759154#post8759154post8759154
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 00:35
The zeeeland government is interested in a possible trade for more russian territory. e.g. some of my african colonies? plus money. how much is to be disclosed upon interst to trade. :)
Elephantum
27-04-2005, 00:47
(Evil villian cackle)

IM BACK! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Time to wreak havoc, but first i have to catch up on school stuff, and a weeks worth of activity here
Elephantum
27-04-2005, 01:51
also, Rome and TLS, a little something may be happening near you soon.

(Hint, it starts with E and ryhmes with Etna's gonna blow!)
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 01:54
hey elephantum are you interested in joining my pact??? Ive got a special deal going on now. join the alliance and you are allowed a military base in my region of your choice vice versa for me too) and join now and you get this AWSOME RED BUTTON WRIST WATCH which activates all your nuclear armaments on the go!!!! handy for when you want to bring about global armeggeddon while on holiday!! :p
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 02:08
Andrehevia, Nuevo Rica any other russian nation got any russian-30 *&^%holes that youd like to sell or swap!!!!!
RomeW
27-04-2005, 02:19
also, Rome and TLS, a little something may be happening near you soon.

(Hint, it starts with E and ryhmes with Etna's gonna blow!)

I knew I shouldn't have fed Etna that ravioli....

Anyway, thanks for the heads up and it's good to see you back.
Elephantum
27-04-2005, 02:25
OPERATION: GRAND MARCH (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415164)

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

lets remove the red menace (not a threat to you other non-menacing reds)
Layarteb
27-04-2005, 03:24
OPERATION: GRAND MARCH (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415164)

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

lets remove the red menace (not a threat to you other non-menacing reds)

Post this over in the World War thread as it is part of World War.
BLARGistania
27-04-2005, 03:50
checking in so I don't go inactive.
Layarteb
27-04-2005, 04:30
checking in so I don't go inactive.

Don't worry, with the amount you have contributed it would take more than a brief stint of inactivity to get D12.
Andrehervia
27-04-2005, 12:07
Nepal doesn't appear to be controlled by anyone. May I claim it?
Elephantum
27-04-2005, 14:35
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415244-Etna

not a WW thread, just an eruption
Neuvo Rica
27-04-2005, 19:38
Nepal doesn't appear to be controlled by anyone. May I claim it?

I already claimed it. But as an ally of yours I would be willing to go 50/50 with you.
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 23:39
:( please take zeeeland off inactive list layerteb. i was on a lovely exotic holiday. cant blame a dude for that can ya? ;)
Duke Barol
27-04-2005, 23:42
:( please take zeeeland off inactive list layerteb. i was on a lovely exotic holiday. cant blame a dude for that can ya? ;)
where were ya?
Elephantum
27-04-2005, 23:45
out of curiosity, how long before Kroando goes D12?
Greater Valia
27-04-2005, 23:53
I want to know about New Jyria going Day 12... I have never seen him post and want his territory badly.
Zeeeland
27-04-2005, 23:56
Place in New Zealand. cool huh? :p :cool: also i happen to live in NZ so I guess it aint that exotic for myself...............
The Island of Rose
28-04-2005, 00:00
Yemen.
Duke Barol
28-04-2005, 00:05
Place in New Zealand. cool huh? :p :cool: also i happen to live in NZ so I guess it aint that exotic for myself...............
Heh. thats funny.
Zeeeland
28-04-2005, 00:44
meh. any other Antipodeans on Earth II????? :)
Samtonia
28-04-2005, 01:47
Unfortunately, due to time constraints, I am forced to make the decision to pull out of EII. It's been excellently run while I have been here and all participants were amazing to work with, so thank you all.

Now, on to my will!

Samtonia's Last Will and Testament on Earth Two
These gifts are like the natios purchased my territory. Actually, some of them did. So these go to who I said get them.

To TIOR, I bequeath Havana. You know why you crazy Cuban!

To NATO nations, I bequeath Cuba and the rest of the Caribbean. Feel free to divide it up amongst yourselves official owner wise, but keep that entire region as a NATO controlled territory to be dispensed amongst other NATO members should they wish to enter E2.

To Gnoocop0elep, I bequeath my South American territoires of Argentina, Uruguay, and Paraguay. Plus any I missed. It was nice talking with you over many tings.

And to Hyperbia, I bequeath Mauritania due to services rendered. Also, simply consider your contract to have carried over from me to Gnoocopelep. Feel free to contact him about the amount of infantry he will receive as per our agreement.

Any other territories I may have forgotten, fight for them!

So ends the Last Will of Samtonia on E2. May Max have mercy on his soul.
The Island of Rose
28-04-2005, 01:56
(Yes! I get Havana province, right?)
Samtonia
28-04-2005, 02:06
[OOC- You get the tiny region directly around Havana.

AS seen here.http://www.reisenett.no/map_collection/americas/Cuba.jpg

I think it's Ciudad de la Habana. That's what you get. NATO gets the rest.]
Zeeeland
28-04-2005, 03:03
BROADCAST- THE EMPIRE OF ZEEELAND HAS GONE TO WAR...... In an unexpected move today Cotland throughly unprovoked has launched an offensive against leningrad Oblast belonging to the soveirn Empire of Zeeeland. This has violated our peaceful neutrality and harmony with the rest of the world. We call upon all our allies to condemn this act on Zeeeland and act in any way they can...... :mad:
Andrehervia
28-04-2005, 03:43
I already claimed it. But as an ally of yours I would be willing to go 50/50 with you.

That would be great, thanks.

Place in New Zealand. cool huh? also i happen to live in NZ so I guess it aint that exotic for myself..............

Holy dog toffee. So do I!
Hawdawg
28-04-2005, 04:10
BROADCAST- THE EMPIRE OF ZEEELAND HAS GONE TO WAR...... In an unexpected move today Cotland throughly unprovoked has launched an offensive against leningrad Oblast belonging to the soveirn Empire of Zeeeland. This has violated our peaceful neutrality and harmony with the rest of the world. We call upon all our allies to condemn this act on Zeeeland and act in any way they can...... :mad:


Uhm in the WW OOC Thread RomeW posted you as neutral but had status listed as unknown needs clarification. If you are in fact neutral, I would go there and let him know. This would make the Cottish invasion null and void.

-Hawdawg
RomeW
28-04-2005, 08:07
Uhm in the WW OOC Thread RomeW posted you as neutral but had status listed as unknown needs clarification. If you are in fact neutral, I would go there and let him know. This would make the Cottish invasion null and void.

-Hawdawg

Not quite. It would only be struck "null and void" if they were "Neutral (1)", like I am. "Neutral (2)"- in which nations CAN be attacked- is where I place everyone who has not declared their status, which is what Zeeeland is.
Hawdawg
28-04-2005, 13:10
Not quite. It would only be struck "null and void" if they were "Neutral (1)", like I am. "Neutral (2)"- in which nations CAN be attacked- is where I place everyone who has not declared their status, which is what Zeeeland is.

Got it, I misread the way the neutrality columns were set up. Thanks for the clarification RomeW.

-Hawdawg
The Island of Rose
28-04-2005, 13:28
Eh, it works. Remember people, I'm neutral in this x.x
Neuvo Rica
28-04-2005, 16:25
That would be great, thanks.



Holy dog toffee. So do I!

How a bout east west? I take west you take east?
Andrehervia
29-04-2005, 05:22
How a bout east west? I take west you take east?

Sure.
Greenmanbry
29-04-2005, 08:26
Since I already have a huge base on the Granzian Maldives, I might as well claim the entire Maldives.

So yeah, put me up for the Maldives. Thanks, Lay.

^^
Hawdawg
30-04-2005, 03:09
BTW, Layarteb you can move Swedish Wargames to the complete column, I finished it up so we could roll into the Blood in the Snow thread.

Thanks,

-Hawdawg
Zeeeland
30-04-2005, 04:06
Holy dog toffee. So do I![/QUOTE]

do you really Andrehevia? where abouts dude? Im in the sunny BOI (bay of islands)
Zeeeland
30-04-2005, 04:19
ok I dont know much about "military statistics" so this may be a crap RP. can somebody telegram me some friendly advice and what should be a relatively strong and more Importantly "viable army" for zeeeland. population 300 million. (this would not be a walk over for you cotland.)
Hawdawg
30-04-2005, 13:33
ok I dont know much about "military statistics" so this may be a crap RP. can somebody telegram me some friendly advice and what should be a relatively strong and more Importantly "viable army" for zeeeland. population 300 million. (this would not be a walk over for you cotland.)

1-4% of total population. The smaller nations (under 500m) usually run about 4%. You would have 12m men total in your armed forces with this percentage. I would split them up among the different branches of service. If you want to focus on more ground forces, put more in the army. If the navy is your thing put more in the navy. So on and so forth. Don't forget logistics they make or break the troops fighting. I would suggest you go to teh ninjas storefront or clan smoke jaguar storefront to check out how to build units. CSM has some links to information about military statistics, logistics, etc. that may help you formulate a military force.

Here is a link to my military factbook see if that helps you.

Military Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375438)

-Hawdawg
Teh ninjas
30-04-2005, 15:11
1% to 4% of your military is more like war time military status. Most modern militaries maintain a 1 percent or lower of their population in their military. But if you are in a hostile enviroment and are surrounded by various hostile nations then 1% to 4% of your population in the military sounds about right. (This applies to real life Israel) I'd highly recommend taking a look at Clan Smoke Jaguars threads about economics, military, and military size.
Andrehervia
30-04-2005, 15:47
do you really Andrehevia? where abouts dude? Im in the sunny BOI (bay of islands)

Auckland. I ain't saying which suburb though. >_>

As for your military, first you should get the basics: armoured divisions, infantry divisions, mechanised infantry divisions etc. Then get all of the equipment you have and sort it into these divisions accordingly. I recommend using this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_unit to help you.

If you're still stuck, I'll send you the framework of how I organised my military if you like.
Neuvo Rica
30-04-2005, 19:58
Sure.

Done and done ...
Layarteb
01-05-2005, 04:44
Sorry it's taken so long to do this guys. Also there is a new CUBA map!

TIOR: Yemen is yours. Cuba thing from Samtonia is in your hands.

Duke Barol: All that means is that all Decree 12 posting must be done in the context of World War so that threads must be posted on the World War page and they are in that context.

Neuvo Rica: Nepal is in your hands. So what's decided on Nepal?

Greenmanbry: Maldives are in your hands.

Greater Valia: Comoros is in the hands of GnOoLoCoPeLep. And Nepal is claimed. New Jyria has posted in the past and currently unless he goes to 21 days inactivity he isn't going to be easy pickings.

Andrehervia: So what's decided on Nepal?

Elephantum: RP added.

Zeeeland: Adjusted.

Samtonia: Shucks man sorry to see you go. I'll do that list accordingly.

TO NATO NATIONS: Who has WHAT in the Caribbean! In addition, I would be willing to negotiate the transfer of the Caribbean islands (sans Cuba) to Layartebian rule. I have a good amount of money to invest in it. In addition the following islands are of strong concern (Netherlands Antilles, Aruba, Triniad, Tobago, and Isla Margarita).

Hawdwag: I moved the thread.

Gnoocop0elep & Hypberia: I need you two to affirm or deny what is in this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8766247&postcount=4419).

Kroando has joined the Decree 12 list.
Andrehervia
01-05-2005, 06:09
So what's decided on Nepal?

Nuevo Rica takes the west half of Nepal, I take the east half.
Zeeeland
01-05-2005, 06:52
Layerteb Cotland and I have made a mutual Understanding. Inwhich we have agreed to Tarde colonies. I receive Benin and Equatorial Gunea in return for Leningrad oblast which cotland will receive. If you can make the necessary adjustments to that it would be appreciated. cheers :)
Cotland
01-05-2005, 12:47
Confirmed. I get Leningrad, Zeee gets Benin and Equatorial Guinea.
Layarteb
01-05-2005, 13:26
Layerteb Cotland and I have made a mutual Understanding. Inwhich we have agreed to Tarde colonies. I receive Benin and Equatorial Gunea in return for Leningrad oblast which cotland will receive. If you can make the necessary adjustments to that it would be appreciated. cheers :)

That's been done already with the agreements you guys had several pages back.

Neuvo Rica: What say you to Andrehervia's east, you west of Nepal?
Celtayoshi
01-05-2005, 14:34
Just to let you know I am RP for the Indian territories once held by Kroando. The thread is posted in the world war section.
Neuvo Rica
01-05-2005, 16:04
That's been done already with the agreements you guys had several pages back.

Neuvo Rica: What say you to Andrehervia's east, you west of Nepal?

We've already agreed, that'll be alright thanks.
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 00:56
Can I RP for part of a territory? like part of binthors burkina Faso. If so Im gonna annex 30,000 sq miles of east burikina faso. :)
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 01:35
hey teh Ninjas wheres your storefront? id like to assemble a viable army. :)
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 03:40
Coup d Etat in Zeeeland RP. add this almighty Layerteb http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8793904#post8793904post8793904 :)
Teh ninjas
02-05-2005, 04:19
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352216

You can get 10% off.
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 04:30
cool. Ok teh Ninjas. Il state What I want.
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 04:31
Ps how much flybuys (cardpoints) do I get with a purchase of i dunno say 200 billion? lol :p
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 05:14
Ps. Andrehevia youre not Interested in a trade for any of my provinces do you? I really take a liking to ukraine :D give you a good trade.........
Elephantum
02-05-2005, 19:50
Just to let you know I am RP for the Indian territories once held by Kroando. The thread is posted in the world war section.
Damn, I wanted some
Neuvo Rica
02-05-2005, 19:56
hmmm ... *thinks* I need a coastline somewhere ...


300th post ... oooh yeah :)
Greater Valia
02-05-2005, 20:51
ATTN: I just finished the Taking of Angola thread so if you wouldnt mind Lay, I would appreciate it if you added Southern Angola to my territory listing in the Africa map and to the list on the first page. Thanks.
Duke Barol
02-05-2005, 21:10
ATTN: I just finished the Taking of Angola thread so if you wouldnt mind Lay, I would appreciate it if you added Southern Angola to my territory listing in the Africa map and to the list on the first page. Thanks.
i thought it would be more of a mesh of both north and south for both.
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:02
Hey Duke arent you exceeding your claims a bit? taking both nigeria and North Angola. after all youre smaller than me buddy
Cotland
02-05-2005, 22:13
I actually think that he is... Duke Barol (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=duke_barol) has a strong population of 242 million, something which allows him to nab 500k sq.miles. He already have (according to the spreadsheet (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Files/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm)) 431,592.70 sq.miles, and is now claiming another 597 168,80 sq.miles. Sorry mate, but you're too small for that kind of land.


On another note, I made 1 billion today! :D :D :D :D :D
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:20
congratulations Cotland. the zeeeland govenrment offers your people the Gift of the contraceptive :p Zeeeland is on 315 million today yay!!!! go me!!!! i hope you like leningrad Cotland.

anyways Teh Ninjas i hope we have an agreement on my purchase of those army divisions from your store ( I hope my cheque didnt bounce :p )
Cotland
02-05-2005, 22:24
Sure. Then you won't mind me RPing my military moving in and taking over control of Leningrad in the thread you made yesterday?
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:25
Hey also note: can I claim land in Cuba I see most regions their are blank I can only assume they are untaken????
Cotland
02-05-2005, 22:27
Hey also note: can I claim land in Cuba I see most regions their are blank I can only assume they are untaken????
You could try, but I think that you'd have NATO all over your ass within hours (RL).
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:29
:eek: whys that have they claimed Cuba as a protectorate or military base or sumthing. and also no worries Cotland leningrad is yours mate. One more time layerteb heres my thread http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8793904#post8793904post8793904
Greater Valia
02-05-2005, 22:35
i thought it would be more of a mesh of both north and south for both.

Think of it more like East/West Germany. Besides, I already made a kickass map in photoshop.
Greater Valia
02-05-2005, 22:36
On another note, is Teh Ninjas quitting? If so I claim his land in Madagascar. (I will most likely take it anyways through an invasion or land sell)
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:48
Beware I think teh Ninjas has great Influence in the region. (ergo he has allies who may not like you simply annexing his territory if teh decides to quit)
Greater Valia
02-05-2005, 22:49
Beware I think teh Ninjas has great Influence in the region. (ergo he has allies who may not like you simply annexing his territory if teh decides to quit)

Who are his allies? My plans for his territory all hinge on who his allies actually are.
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:53
well I like teh Ninjas for one. but im a neutral. (I need to buy armaments from him you see?) and i wouldnt Attack you because our nations have a sort of common understanding i guess. youll have to find out I wouldnt really know. if teh ninjas decides to quit (malicious rumour, surely?) that could be advantageuos to Somali russia.....
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 22:57
By the way Neo Suun Zhua. are you going to take Chinkopodias Mongolia or what??? If not Illput down an Interest (dont worry people Il jumble up my terrtories so it can be alloted)
Zeeeland
02-05-2005, 23:53
ok heres a proposition. I see i nice white area covering Argentina. but my nation is too small too cover all of it (under assumption that it is still available) so i agree to relinquish all my other territories for 450,000 sq miles of north argentina. Including Buenos Aires and Uruguay aswell. any objections please say now or forever hold your peace..... ps Il make a big RP as soon as I get these territories (If i can that is....) ( I know Goonceleps meant to have em. but its turned white again.. does that mean hes forfeited them or something?????)
Greater Valia
02-05-2005, 23:58
ok heres a proposition. I see i nice white area covering Argentina. but my nation is too small too cover all of it (under assumption that it is still available) so i agree to relinquish all my other territories for 450,000 sq miles of north argentina. Including Buenos Aires and Uruguay aswell. any objections please say now or forever hold your peace..... ps Il make a big RP as soon as I get these territories (If i can that is....) ( I know Goonceleps meant to have em. but its turned white again.. does that mean hes forfeited them or something?????)

Yes, I may want those if I cant acquire more territory in Africa.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 00:19
well this is just Hypothetical at the moment (someone may have it) but We could share the territory "negiotiate" If i get this territory i would relinquish all my african possessions. so they would be up for grabs.....

so if no one has it Il claim 420,000 sq miles north Argentina (Bueno aires northwards, and uruguay (which is about 40,000 sq miles i think) and in return il relinquish all my other territories. layeteb you know your role buddy. :)
Teh ninjas
03-05-2005, 01:05
I'm not quiting at all.

As for Madagascar 'tis mine and mine forever.
Greater Valia
03-05-2005, 01:18
I'm not quiting at all.

As for Madagascar 'tis mine and mine forever.

*whistles* I remain firm in my resolve... (I really want that island... perhaps some kind of purchase? Im sure neither of us want war...)
Teh ninjas
03-05-2005, 01:32
Madagascar has too much strategic value for me to let it go. Wars can be entertaining at times.
Somali-Russia
03-05-2005, 01:54
May god, I feel old......... people feel happy about reaching ONE BILLION. My other 2 nations have reached 3.024 Billion and 4.124 Biliion.

I guess SOMALI-Russia will be another Billioner soon than later.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 04:06
yay i made the 300th!!! :) to celebrate id also like to annex south georgia island. ( ichecked nobody has it) Its by the FalkLands and is a British dependency so i think i can claim along with my claims above. whatcha reckon?
Samtonia
03-05-2005, 04:13
Yo. Lay. Just to clarify my arrangement with Hyperbia and Pelep.

I purchased mercs from Pelep. Cost was Mauritania. I figured my quitting shouldn't prevent him from getting that. But I didn't want to just waste the investment. So I gave his contract to Pelep, along with my old territory in South America, seeing as he was a friend in the region. Figured he could protect my old land with a few million extra infantrymen.

NATO nations are deciding who officially gets what in the Caribbean right now. Hope this all clears up any confusion.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 04:37
:( so cant I claim North Argentina and uruguay then? can i negotiate with Nato nations for territory in the carribean? if so who are the members???
Marimaia
03-05-2005, 11:11
By the way Neo Suun Zhua. are you going to take Chinkopodias Mongolia or what??? If not Illput down an Interest (dont worry people Il jumble up my terrtories so it can be alloted)

Yes I am, I'm RPing the taking of it as we speak.
Greater Valia
03-05-2005, 12:55
:( so cant I claim North Argentina and uruguay then? can i negotiate with Nato nations for territory in the carribean? if so who are the members???

God luck. The NATO bullies seem to like keeping a monopoly on certain territories in Earth II.
Layarteb
03-05-2005, 14:17
Yo. Lay. Just to clarify my arrangement with Hyperbia and Pelep.

I purchased mercs from Pelep. Cost was Mauritania. I figured my quitting shouldn't prevent him from getting that. But I didn't want to just waste the investment. So I gave his contract to Pelep, along with my old territory in South America, seeing as he was a friend in the region. Figured he could protect my old land with a few million extra infantrymen.

NATO nations are deciding who officially gets what in the Caribbean right now. Hope this all clears up any confusion.

Oh no you're thing was PERFECTLY clear. I still need the other parties to agree to the terms. I can't just give someone something without their approval. And also the NATO guys need to hurry up and decide I can't sit around for weeks waiting for this while they go around and tell people that they can't claim this or that because they'll kill them.

GV & Zeeeland: As of this moment many of those lands are in transition, just waiting for the other parties to agree. But yes I hear you and if they keep up the bullying shit I'm going to get angry.
Greater Valia
03-05-2005, 15:37
Well, Im claiming Haiti and The Dominican Republic in the Carribean Sea. And, Guantanamo Bay, Santiago de Cuba, Holguin, Granma, Las Tunas, and Camaguey in Cuba.
Layarteb
03-05-2005, 19:44
Well, Im claiming Haiti and The Dominican Republic in the Carribean Sea. And, Guantanamo Bay, Santiago de Cuba, Holguin, Granma, Las Tunas, and Camaguey in Cuba.

Read the above post!
Greater Valia
03-05-2005, 20:18
Read the above post!

I did, thats just so that when they do go into claiming mode Ill have first dibs.

EDIT: And not to sound impatient but, could you please add southern Angola to my territory listing? This is so I can start rping my naval buildup. Thanks.
Duke Barol
03-05-2005, 20:48
lay, i was using your signature to enter your forums. can you just post it once, the link?
Layarteb
03-05-2005, 20:59
I did, thats just so that when they do go into claiming mode Ill have first dibs.

EDIT: And not to sound impatient but, could you please add southern Angola to my territory listing? This is so I can start rping my naval buildup. Thanks.

First come first serve buddy, no reserving.
Duke Barol
03-05-2005, 21:14
GV, check your TG's
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 23:20
hurry up and decide Nato Bullies. :rolleyes: please dont kill me for that remark :rolleyes: :p
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 23:36
Okies when North Argentina and uruguays available Im claiming BABY!!!! (ps. Im sacraficing all my other territories for these two countries.) so when they are available please let me know layerteb.

(ps. one gripe. What justifies Euroslavia beeing a puppet state in Earth II? I havent see him/her send a single post or contribute in anyway to earth II. am i mistaken?)
Teh ninjas
03-05-2005, 23:50
I'll take all of Samtonia's land except for the Havana province in Cuba. Expect a lot of the land to go to other NATO nations that want it.

As for some nation's request to have some land I'd have to say no. If you want though we can work out some bases or embassies in Las Tunas, Santiago, Camaguey, Guantanamo, or Holguin.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 23:57
hey ten Ninjas I tried to purchase 10 Armoured divisions, (russian), 10 Mechanized divions and 20 Infantry divisions, (russian for the tidy sum of approximatly 220 billion. has the transaction gone through yet?
Zeeeland
04-05-2005, 02:19
aaaaah dont you just LOVE 19th century Imperial landgrabs.... :p I BAGSY THAT ISIGNIFICENT NATION IN THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA PLEASE MUHAHAHAHAHA ANY OPPOSITION WILL BE CRUSHED BY ME!!!!!!!!!!!! SCREW THE INDIGENOUS INHABITANTS!!!!!!!!. seriously though I want north argentina at all costs.
Layarteb
04-05-2005, 03:30
I'll take all of Samtonia's land except for the Havana province in Cuba. Expect a lot of the land to go to other NATO nations that want it.

As for some nation's request to have some land I'd have to say no. If you want though we can work out some bases or embassies in Las Tunas, Santiago, Camaguey, Guantanamo, or Holguin.

Now once the rest of NATO keys into that I'll do it.
Layarteb
04-05-2005, 04:10
Okies when North Argentina and uruguays available Im claiming BABY!!!! (ps. Im sacraficing all my other territories for these two countries.) so when they are available please let me know layerteb.

(ps. one gripe. What justifies Euroslavia beeing a puppet state in Earth II? I havent see him/her send a single post or contribute in anyway to earth II. am i mistaken?)

Euroslavia & NTG are often posting at and around the same time. Euroslavia has contributed in the past and at the time of the only 1 Earth rule, he was in another Earth so that's where puppet status came from.
Duke Barol
04-05-2005, 15:18
A Coo' Coup Attn North Germania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8809790#post8809790)

Can you add this?
Duke Barol
04-05-2005, 15:19
Euroslavia & NTG are often posting at and around the same time. Euroslavia has contributed in the past and at the time of the only 1 Earth rule, he was in another Earth so that's where puppet status came from.

i dont understand the point of a puppet
Greater Valia
04-05-2005, 16:45
First come first serve buddy, no reserving.

I see. :( Now begins the neurotic watching of the thread for when they will be available...
Greater Valia
04-05-2005, 16:49
I'll take all of Samtonia's land except for the Havana province in Cuba. Expect a lot of the land to go to other NATO nations that want it.

As for some nation's request to have some land I'd have to say no. If you want though we can work out some bases or embassies in Las Tunas, Santiago, Camaguey, Guantanamo, or Holguin.

This seems a little ridiculous for a select group of nations to hold a monopoly of land in the carribean. And do you own Cuba right now? Because if you dont I will do my best to claim what I listed as wanting. If a NATO delegate could contact me over negotiations for the territories I listed as wanting that would be great.
Layarteb
04-05-2005, 18:08
i dont understand the point of a puppet

It's considered puppet status. It's in the charter.
Duke Barol
04-05-2005, 18:24
It's considered puppet status. It's in the charter.

what i ment was: What is "Puppet Status". also, can you post teh link to your forum once so i can book mark it?