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Ottoman Khaif
18-02-2006, 19:27
Great, maybe we should also sign a non-aggression pact or something.
Alright I am good with that.

The Lightning Star- would you be interested in selling Syria to me..
Bjornoya
18-02-2006, 19:29
Now i am just confused. Is this happening because BISE collapsed or did BISE collapse because this is happening?

Everyone seems to be confusing cause and effect at the moment which is understandable.

BISE reflects numbers of NS calculators. I calculate stock prices from them. The crash occurred because many nations made poor economic decisions on issues or made tax cuts in the regions that reflected their stocks (i.e. NG's cut in healthcare caused a drop in Kinetisch stock prices)

So to answer your question the BISE crash resulted from the calculations I've shown above (not just your nation, many nations)
Pushka
18-02-2006, 19:29
In order to help restore the global economy, the Barbary Coast Company has decided on a plan to stimulate global trade; every country that allows the Barbary Coast Company to operate in their country without tariffs on their goods will receive 50% discounts on all goods we bring into their country. While this will result in a temporary loss for the company, we believe it is essential to help restore the world's economy.

However, all country's with which this deal takes place must not be at war with another nation.



We are willing to participate in your offer.

-Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, decision made after consultation with Ministry of Commerce.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 19:30
Everyone seems to be confusing cause and effect at the moment which is understandable.

BISE reflects numbers of NS calculators. I calculate stock prices from them. The crash occurred because many nations made poor economic decisions on issues or made tax cuts in the regions that reflected their stocks (i.e. NG's cut in healthcare caused a drop in Kinetisch stock prices)

So to answer your question the BISE crash resulted from the calculations I've shown above (not just your nation, many nations)

Yeah, it all came to me in the past 10 minutes. Well alright, 10% isn't that much, i am not about to hit rockbuttom like HD is. He has less then a tril on his defense.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 19:32
Can I join Earth II and what land is there left for me to claim?

Um Hello?
Pushka
18-02-2006, 19:33
Nope, no more land left. However you can ask people if they are willing to give you some.
Bjornoya
18-02-2006, 19:35
Um Hello?

What's up dude?

Read first page, if you can find some miniscule island that has not been claimed yet I'm sure you can join. Make sure they haven't already been claimed yet.
Rome West
18-02-2006, 19:39
BISE reflects numbers of NS calculators.

So what do you do when there's a guy like me who doesn't use the NS calculators? All my stats are RP'ed.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 19:40
I'd like to claim the Baker Island, Caroline Islands and the Society Islands i searched for them on the claims list and they are nothere to be found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Islands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_Islands
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 19:41
I asked Layarteb for florida. OS do we use Weapons like we would from normal NS. Like SDs and stuff.
Bjornoya
18-02-2006, 19:51
I'd like to claim the Baker Island, Caroline Islands and the Society Islands i searched for them on the claims list and they are nothere to be found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Islands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_Islands


Society= part of French Polynesia = claimed
Caroline = part of Micronesia = claimed
Rome West
18-02-2006, 19:55
EDIT- Deleted original material. Bjornoya, did you see my post?
Bjornoya
18-02-2006, 20:07
So what do you do when there's a guy like me who doesn't use the NS calculators? All my stats are RP'ed.

CRUCIFY!!!

Nah, hmm.. not sure. Stocks in the BISE have to reflect tangible evidence or else I'll be accused of God-modding. If there were an up-to-date news-letterish presentation of what was going on inside the country I could make a decisions based on that.

As far as E2 goes it seems you can either choose wht is presented by the NS calculator or choose something less, but never more (population, spending, etc) Most people choose the maximum. I'd like to RP realisitcally but with 4 billion sixe nations threatening war with me it would not be healthy for me to take anything less than what NS presents.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 20:31
Society= part of French Polynesia = claimed
Caroline = part of Micronesia = claimed

Just the Baker then.
Rome West
18-02-2006, 20:40
CRUCIFY!!!

Nah, hmm.. not sure. Stocks in the BISE have to reflect tangible evidence or else I'll be accused of God-modding. If there were an up-to-date news-letterish presentation of what was going on inside the country I could make a decisions based on that.

As far as E2 goes it seems you can either choose wht is presented by the NS calculator or choose something less, but never more (population, spending, etc) Most people choose the maximum. I'd like to RP realisitcally but with 4 billion sixe nations threatening war with me it would not be healthy for me to take anything less than what NS presents.

The thing is, I discarded the NS stats because they're impossible to control. If I wanted to, say, increase health care spending, I can do that in a RP but not through NS unless that random issue shows up. Plus, the game wouldn't take into effect an embargo placed here or any other kind of RP'ed situation, because there's no way for the game to know through its coding.

I pull my stats from my factbook, which I compiled through digging for RL stats and information (because my main nation is based on RL). This is my economic overview:

www.geocities.com/vicendum/vicendumspotlightrome.html

It wasn't hard to do- just look on Wikipedia or on the individual provinces' homepages (because each one carries stats).

I've been thinking of expropriating it to my NS population because I'm at a disadvantage here too- Bjornoya, you're not alone: I'd rather use RL figures too, because they're A LOT more manageable. The funny thing about my stats is that they're actually worse than what ThirdGeek spits out- I have a GDP of $18,000 US, when ThirdGeek gives me $19,000. The only problem is that ThirdGeek doesn't give me a defence budget and believe me I have one, and it's quite sizeable.
The Lightning Star
18-02-2006, 20:55
The thing is, I discarded the NS stats because they're impossible to control. If I wanted to, say, increase health care spending, I can do that in a RP but not through NS unless that random issue shows up. Plus, the game wouldn't take into effect an embargo placed here or any other kind of RP'ed situation, because there's no way for the game to know through its coding.

I pull my stats from my factbook, which I compiled through digging for RL stats and information (because my main nation is based on RL). This is my economic overview:

www.geocities.com/vicendum/vicendumspotlightrome.html

It wasn't hard to do- just look on Wikipedia or on the individual provinces' homepages (because each one carries stats).

I've been thinking of expropriating it to my NS population because I'm at a disadvantage here too- Bjornoya, you're not alone: I'd rather use RL figures too, because they're A LOT more manageable. The funny thing about my stats is that they're actually worse than what ThirdGeek spits out- I have a GDP of $18,000 US, when ThirdGeek gives me $19,000. The only problem is that ThirdGeek doesn't give me a defence budget and believe me I have one, and it's quite sizeable.

Thirdgeek gives me a GDP of $36,000 US. Isn't it awesome being uberly-capitalist?

Here (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=The+Lightning+Star) is the rest of my economy. It's also important when you calculate the fact that Carthage is completely owned and controlled by the Barbary Coast Company; it makes a profit of Kt. 107,670,207,289.36 ($181,671,940,759.34) annualy. That's a big profit, if I do say so myself. For a company, at least.
Ottoman Khaif
18-02-2006, 20:57
Thirdgeek gives me a GDP of $36,000 US. Isn't it awesome being uberly-capitalist?

Here (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=The+Lightning+Star) is the rest of my economy. It's also important when you calculate the fact that Carthage is completely owned and controlled by the Barbary Coast Company; it makes a profit of Kt. 107,670,207,289.36 ($181,671,940,759.34) annualy. That's a big profit, if I do say so myself. For a company, at least.

TLS- your GDP isn't 36,000 its $32,861.97 to be exact..
Reagonica
18-02-2006, 21:01
This may seem a little random cause I've been gone a while, but it is perfectly well thought out and not as silly as it seems. Glad to be back again

With the dawn of the new sun, every leader across the world awoke to the news a mysterious letter had been placed on their desk, unknown in origin. As letters were being open, a broadcast spilled across any and all open channels

*****Decree of the Grand Master of the Knight Templars and Defender of the True Pope, Guillaume de Rossal:
A middle aged man, unremarkable in appearence but for the burning intensity in his eyes, step up to the podium . . .
"My name is Guillaume of Rossal, Grand Master of the Poor-Fellow Soldiers of Jesus Christ and the Temple of Solomon. I fought in Jerusalem as the Hordes of infidels ravaged the Holy Land, and I fight still. Children of God, I call to you, as a fellow servant of God and the Holy Father, Pope Innocent XV, to pick up your arms and drive these infidels from Jerusalem. God has blessed us with Riches, and so we offer 50 trillion dollars to any who help to drive the heretics from the holy land. But know the the riches God shall give you will make these earthly riches pale in comparison. It is time, brothers. Deus Vult."
The man made the sign of the cross and retired from the podium, the signal fading away.

The letters read by world leaders had but two variants.
1. " I have been so fortunate today to extend to you God's blessing. The Holy Grace has called upon you, and I, to liberate the Holy Land from the Heretics and Heathens of Carthage, and restore the Holy Father. Surely you are blessed to receive this calling, and in this task you shall enternaly be in the House of God. Fail not in this task; the riches of this world and elsewhere are to great. Carthago est Delendum!"

2. "While you have not been so fortunate as to adhear to the calling of the Mother Church, know that now is your time. To join this great Crusade would greatly aid the . . . indulgence of your . . . other faith. However, should you choose to ignore this calling, your peace shall be you own. To get embroiled in the wrong side of this conflict would be unwise, and unneccessary. No friend of Carthage is, for the time being, a friend of ours. Go in Grace, or in Peace. Do not bring war upon yourselves."

OOC: Yes, I'm launching a crusade. the religious undertones are there only because it is a crusade, but it wont get any more dirty, dont worry.
As for the letters, use your judgement as to which one you got.
I'll be posting the thread soon; I just wanted to get everyone's attention, ans $50 trillion has a way of brining people out of the woodworks.
Bjornoya
18-02-2006, 21:02
TLS you do realize E2-wise I was the first to establish a nation-wide mega corporation? Visara Co was around before the Carthaginian revolution.

But yeah, it has its strengths and weaknesses. Bureacratic overload for a nation-wide corporation would be enormous.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 21:10
I asked Layarteb for florida. OS do we use Weapons like we would from normal NS. Like SDs and stuff.

riddle me this.
Elephantum
18-02-2006, 21:19
@ Lay- Probably top 5, stuff has got all rearranged since I last figured that stuff out. Im either 1st or a clost 2nd. Pushka, TLS, Hirgy, and Bjorn are all up there as well.

@Pushka-go to cia.gov, and look up Russia, the US, or any other big country. It shows barrels needed per day. If you use a massive population (like 4 billion or so) then it would need much more than that.

@ numbers debate-I use somewhere between RL and NS. I have slightly over 1billion people, 1/2 my NS population, but more than the total of my RL territiories, because the cities tend to be massive. My military would kick anyone's rear in RL, but in E2, I might lose a one on one fight with any of the massive nations (Lay, Pushka, etc.) although it depends on where you attack (if anything so much as hiccups in the Persian Gulf it will be so dead it isnt funny) I havent actually looked at thirdgeek in forever, does anyone have a link?

@TKT-you do realize I own half of Jerusalem right? Giving someone 10 trillion dollars and then threatening one of his allies that he's been trading with for the last 2,000 years or so isnt smart, but I won't kill you over it.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 21:20
I would like to claim Howland Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howland_Island

Is Jarvis Island Claimed yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarvis_Island

So can we use SDs and stuff like that?
The Lightning Star
18-02-2006, 21:29
TLS- your GDP isn't 36,000 its $32,861.97 to be exact..

Pffft, close enough. 36,000, 32,000, it's all good :).

And Bjorn, does it really matter who was first?

Thirdly; is someone calling for a crusade? If so...

Official Statement by the Merchant Princes of Carthage
The Grand Duchy of Jerusalem is controlled by the Council; 5 Dukes who each represent each of the quarters of Old Jerusalem(the Jewish Quarter, the Muslim Quarter, the Christian Quarter, and the little-known Armenian Quarter), as well as one who represents an alternating minor group every 4 years (Such as the Ba'hai). We have never stopped anyone from coming to Jerusalem, a vibrant, festive, prosperous, and peaceful multi-cultural city. The Barbary Coast Company firmly believes in the separation of Church and State. For example, the city of Old Makkah (RL Makkah) is maintained by the Order of Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub, New Makkah (RL Christchurch) is maintained by the Eastern Followers of the Prophet, many Hindu holy sites are maintained by the Vishnu's Chakrams organisation, and the Churches of the realm are maintained by the Bishop of Carthage, who is a Bishop of the Catholic Church.

Your calls for war against the "infidels" are uncalled for; also, take into account over 300,000,000 Christians are Carthaginian citizens; we do not believe that they enjoy being called infidels by a radical terrorist organization that poses to be a state. We firmly believe that your call for crusade will go unheeded, and then your nation shall become the laughing stock of the world.
Cotland
18-02-2006, 21:55
So can we use SDs and stuff like that?
Use your head. Superdreadnaughts are PMT (stuff after 2020). If you bothered to read the decreed, you would know that Earth II is MT (stuff up to 2020). Hence, PMT stuff are off limits.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 22:00
Use your head. Superdreadnaughts are PMT (stuff after 2020). If you bothered to read the decreed, you would know that Earth II is MT (stuff up to 2020). Hence, PMT stuff are off limits.

No really. But I looked at some of your antions military and you gusy have some SDs. But it actully is MT its one of theose things that are MT but havnt benn built.
Ottoman Khaif
18-02-2006, 22:08
Pffft, close enough. 36,000, 32,000, it's all good :).





TLS, have you thought about selling Syria, I am willing pay to 30 trillion for it...

If you don't sell me Syria...I shall kill your garrison in Syria for lunch and have your soul for dinner...muhehahahaha..no really ,I really want Syria , damn it all.
Squornshelous
18-02-2006, 22:11
I would like to claim Howland Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howland_Island

Is Jarvis Island Claimed yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarvis_Island

So can we use SDs and stuff like that?


If you're looking for something a little more substantial, you could RP a rebellion in my portion of Antarctica.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 22:12
If you're looking for something a little more substantial, you could RP a rebellion in my portion of Antarctica.

Ok sounds good. So jsut a rebellion or an invasion? Or could I buy it from you to save the trouble.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 22:15
Also Elephantum I would like to buy your part to.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 22:25
@Pushka-go to cia.gov, and look up Russia, the US, or any other big country. It shows barrels needed per day. If you use a massive population (like 4 billion or so) then it would need much more than that.

Few things. First 80% of my electric grid gets its power from nuclear energy, second 17 out of remaining 20 % is natural gas, the rest is oil, wind power and so on and so forth. Third, a lot of Russian natural oil reserves are just sitting there and are not mined by anyone, just because thats how it is in RL does not mean thats how it should be on NS there i have the sufficient resources to mine those fields. Fourth my pop is 2.6 bil. Fifth, so how much oil are you offering to sell? I mean what is the amount i should buy? I really don't know what will be too big and what too small.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 22:28
TLS i said i agree to your proposal, can you respond to that?
Elephantum
18-02-2006, 22:30
Well then go look at France, which is mostly nuclear or other sources. I honestly can't give you a number, you'd have to come up with your own best guess. Although you mine more fields, you also use a much larger population than RL Russia, so you really have to decide for yourself, but rest assured we have enough to fill your order.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 22:30
Ok sounds good. So jsut a rebellion or an invasion? Or could I buy it from you to save the trouble.

How much would you want for it?
Teh ninjas
18-02-2006, 22:33
Pushka- Lay makes a bunch of money from his storefront too.

Nations who aren't in the stock market aren't really affected from it's crash right?
Pushka
18-02-2006, 22:34
Well then go look at France, which is mostly nuclear or other sources. I honestly can't give you a number, you'd have to come up with your own best guess. Although you mine more fields, you also use a much larger population than RL Russia, so you really have to decide for yourself, but rest assured we have enough to fill your order.

How much would 30 million barrels be?
Elephantum
18-02-2006, 22:35
Well, if the US stock market were to crash today, so would just about everyone elses. But it really depends on how much you trade with other countries, and how self-sufficent your economy is.
Pushka
18-02-2006, 22:35
Pushka- Lay makes a bunch of money from his storefront too.

Doesn't look like it would compensate sufficiently

Nations who aren't in the stock market aren't really affected from it's crash right?

The stock market crushed because NSTracker and ThirdGeek started acting funny and brought NS economies of many nations down. You should check your economy at the NSTracker to see if there is any change for you.
Dweladelfia prime
18-02-2006, 22:36
Is there any land anybody will sell to me?
Pushka
18-02-2006, 22:37
Teh Ninjas check TGs.
Teh ninjas
18-02-2006, 22:50
Responded Pushka.

My stats seem normal, my gov. waste is a bit high than I remember (10t) but other than that everything seems fine.
Rome West
18-02-2006, 23:20
Thirdgeek gives me a GDP of $36,000 US. Isn't it awesome being uberly-capitalist?

See, I'm capitalist too- the only difference is that since my Vicendum (and thus main) territories stretch across RL impoverished regions (my main territories include Ethiopia and Somalia, whose combined GDP is $11 billion less than Bill Gates' net worth), so that drags down considerably my GDP. I have announced plans to increase their infrastructure but I haven't had the opportunity to really RP it.
The Lightning Star
19-02-2006, 02:50
TLS i said i agree to your proposal, can you respond to that?

I didn't see you agree'ing, sorry. Consider the proposal in action with Pushka.
Squornshelous
19-02-2006, 04:02
Dweladelfia, what I had in mind was that you could have a rebellion of sorts against Squornshelan rule in the Antarctic Peninsula and since my government has much bigger concerns elsewhere, your rebel leaders and my government could probably reach a settlement that would give you the land.
Tyrandis
19-02-2006, 05:49
So yeah, I'm totally unscathed by this recession, with my defense budgets remaining almost as big as they used to be (60T, minus 5 billion). And that'll be going up once I start liberalizing the regime's domestic policies...

Be very afraid, children, be very afraid. ;)
Azimeth
19-02-2006, 07:07
Azimeth would be interested in buying land anywhere in the world. That'd be nice. >_>
RomeW
19-02-2006, 10:07
I learned something new about myself today- when I'm drunk, I'm very philosophical. Even more so than I usually am. That and I'm a lot more talkative. As in A LOT.

I'm still hammered as I write this...but for anyone looking to take advantage of me, you'll be getting nowhere- and fast. Faster than light. Which is fast. So yeah.

I'm feeling pretty good about myself. I think I need to do this more often...
Bjornoya
19-02-2006, 10:17
I could totally kick your ass in a drunk-philisophical debate.

Hell I was talking Sartre and Derrida with my sister and brother-in-law down at Anacapa Brewing Co.... in SPANISH!!!
RomeW
19-02-2006, 10:48
I could totally kick your ass in a drunk-philisophical debate.

Hell I was talking Sartre and Derrida with my sister and brother-in-law down at Anacapa Brewing Co.... in SPANISH!!!

Yeah, but can you come up with a whole new meaning of life? Because I can. Life makes a whole lot more sense now, and I have Heineken to thank for that.

Riding the Yonge Street bus late at night isn't such a chore anymore...I can see life in new colours; and odours. Yes, odours. This is a wild night I'll never forget- and neither should any of you. Ever. I'll keep tabs. :D
Pushka
19-02-2006, 16:34
I could totally kick your ass in a drunk-philisophical debate.

Hell I was talking Sartre and Derrida with my sister and brother-in-law down at Anacapa Brewing Co.... in SPANISH!!!

I understood the concept of death once then i was drunk, then i woke up i did not remember what it was, but i remember the feeling that it all made perfect sense.

Guys in the drunk philosophical debating i am on a whole other level up above you, sorry guys, thats a birthright right there.

@Lay: Check TGs.

@Rome: You sure there wasn't any marihuana in that beer you drank?
Teh ninjas
19-02-2006, 18:41
See, I'm capitalist too- the only difference is that since my Vicendum (and thus main) territories stretch across RL impoverished regions (my main territories include Ethiopia and Somalia, whose combined GDP is $11 billion less than Bill Gates' net worth), so that drags down considerably my GDP. I have announced plans to increase their infrastructure but I haven't had the opportunity to really RP it.

I have Ethiopia and Somalia...
Bjornoya
19-02-2006, 20:31
Yeah, but can you come up with a whole new meaning of life? Because I can. Life makes a whole lot more sense now, and I have Heineken to thank for that.

Riding the Yonge Street bus late at night isn't such a chore anymore...I can see life in new colours; and odours. Yes, odours. This is a wild night I'll never forget- and neither should any of you. Ever. I'll keep tabs. :D

Come up with a new meaning of life? Next time I get drunk no cuz last time I got drunk I already created and went over all the possibilities ;) Besides, got more important things to worry about than the meaning of life, like "Why do I think about what the meaning of life is?"
Dweladelfia prime
19-02-2006, 20:40
Dweladelfia, what I had in mind was that you could have a rebellion of sorts against Squornshelan rule in the Antarctic Peninsula and since my government has much bigger concerns elsewhere, your rebel leaders and my government could probably reach a settlement that would give you the land.

Ok all start the thread.
Pushka
19-02-2006, 20:43
Come up with a new meaning of life? Next time I get drunk no cuz last time I got drunk I already created and went over all the possibilities ;) Besides, got more important things to worry about than the meaning of life, like "Why do I think about what the meaning of life is?"

Thats deep.
Cotland
19-02-2006, 21:47
Official Press Release from the Ministry of Defense

In response to the economic setback experienced earlier in the week, the Government has decided to reduce the size of the peacetime military. These cutbacks will mainly affect the Army and Navy, and to some extent the Air Force. We assure the public that the ability for the military to defend the Kingdom has not been reduced. Instead of a large military, we are opting for a smaller professional military to help put out the troubles that may arise in the world. The size of the Home Guards shall not be touched. The conscription shall also be removed, effective as of next year. This is a part of the Governments plan to modernize and strengthen the military.

The Army shall reduce its amount of infantry and armor to a bare minimum, and rather rely on independent regiments, para regiments and rapid response units for the defense of the Kingdom. All in all, the projections of the Army looks like this at the moment:

Infantry Brigades: 24
Armored Brigades: 8
Artillery Battalions: 8
Para Regiments: 30
Independent Regiments: 24
Rapid Response Units: 24
Cruise Missile Units: 24

Combat Engineer Regiments: 24
Medical Regiments: 8
Logistical Support Units: 96
Military Police Units: 24
Army Aviation Units: 12
Military Education Units: 8

As for the Navy, a substantial amount of the fleet will have to be sent to the mothballs, including all battleship battlegroups. The carrier force will be reduced as well, but not as substantially as the battleship group. About 18 carrier groups, including all Alliance battlegroups will be sent to the mothballs. The amphibious force will be reduced in size by 30%, meaning a total of 12 groups will be retired. The remaining 28 will be sufficient to maintain the Kingdoms offensive capabilities. The reduction will limit the Kingdoms blue-water navy, but it is not completely gone. We will still be around on the seven seas.

The Marines and Air Force will remain as they are in size.

All in all, this reduction will not only help ease the budget, but it will also give the military a smaller, more managable profile. The new focus of the military will be on peacekeeping and defensive missions, not as a large offensive giant with nothing to do. The reduction in size will allow the Government to spend more money on the individual soldier, and to give each soldier more attention. We are confident that this will allow us more flexibility in our deployments of forces, both at home and overseas.
Hirgizstan
19-02-2006, 21:54
OOC: Bjorn, NOT DERRIDA!!!! Friggin hell, I was discussing him last week, my assessment of his work was described as 'dogmatic'. Seriously, I hate the smug french twat. His writing is so pretentious and it really, after all its intricacies, really means nothing much at all. SO ANNOYING! Interdeminacy doesn't take 4 pages of prentetious crap to explain, LOOK UP A DICTIONARY!
Pushka
19-02-2006, 22:07
Official Press Release from the Ministry of Defense

In response to the economic setback experienced earlier in the week, the Government has decided to reduce the size of the peacetime military. These cutbacks will mainly affect the Army and Navy, and to some extent the Air Force. We assure the public that the ability for the military to defend the Kingdom has not been reduced. Instead of a large military, we are opting for a smaller professional military to help put out the troubles that may arise in the world. The size of the Home Guards shall not be touched. The conscription shall also be removed, effective as of next year. This is a part of the Governments plan to modernize and strengthen the military.

The Army shall reduce its amount of infantry and armor to a bare minimum, and rather rely on independent regiments, para regiments and rapid response units for the defense of the Kingdom. All in all, the projections of the Army looks like this at the moment:

Infantry Brigades: 24
Armored Brigades: 8
Artillery Battalions: 8
Para Regiments: 30
Independent Regiments: 24
Rapid Response Units: 24
Cruise Missile Units: 24

Combat Engineer Regiments: 24
Medical Regiments: 8
Logistical Support Units: 96
Military Police Units: 24
Army Aviation Units: 12
Military Education Units: 8

As for the Navy, a substantial amount of the fleet will have to be sent to the mothballs, including all battleship battlegroups. The carrier force will be reduced as well, but not as substantially as the battleship group. About 18 carrier groups, including all Alliance battlegroups will be sent to the mothballs. The amphibious force will be reduced in size by 30%, meaning a total of 12 groups will be retired. The remaining 28 will be sufficient to maintain the Kingdoms offensive capabilities. The reduction will limit the Kingdoms blue-water navy, but it is not completely gone. We will still be around on the seven seas.

The Marines and Air Force will remain as they are in size.

All in all, this reduction will not only help ease the budget, but it will also give the military a smaller, more managable profile. The new focus of the military will be on peacekeeping and defensive missions, not as a large offensive giant with nothing to do. The reduction in size will allow the Government to spend more money on the individual soldier, and to give each soldier more attention. We are confident that this will allow us more flexibility in our deployments of forces, both at home and overseas.

Dude you still got 20 tril defense budget
Cotland
19-02-2006, 22:18
Dude you still got 20 tril defense budget
And now, thanks to the revamping of the military size, I can spend more than $715k on each member of my armed forces. Professional military, here I come! Ph33r m3...
Squornshelous
19-02-2006, 22:27
here's a link to Dweladelfia and my "Rebellion in Anarctica" thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469661
Cotland
19-02-2006, 22:47
After reviewing the situation for the Navy, the Kingdom would like to offer for sale the following amount of aircraft.

SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters
TABThe Seahawk is a trusty ASW / SAR helicopter, capable of doing most of the tasks needed for a modern navy. The aircraft put up for sale were all refitted to "R"-standard a few years ago, and are in prime condition. All aircraft put up for sale are newly overhauled and will come with a full tank of gas. Dispite the excellent condition of the helicopters, they are used and as such, there will be a reduction in price. All aircraft are for sale for $15 million each. A total of 2,452 SH-60R Seahawks are for sale.

C-2B Greyhound transport aircraft
TABThe Greyhound is a trusty carrier-borne transport aircraft, capable of carrying a lot of goods and passengers over substantial distances. The aircraft are all refurbished and overhauled, and will arrive to the buyers with a full tank of gas. The aricraft are used, and as such, each plane costs only $12 million. There are a total of 630 C-2B Greyhounds for sale.

E-2E Hawkeye airborne early warning
TABThe Hawkeye is a trusty, proven design, capable of seeing and controlling aircraft quite a distance away. It is in short a carrier-borne AWACS aircraft. The Hawkeyes are all refurbished and overhauled, stripped only of classified equipment and electronics which are replaced with top-notch unclassified equipment and electronics. They will arrive with a full tank of gas, and cost only $20 million each. There are a total of 98 Hawkeyes for sale.
[NS]Kreynoria
19-02-2006, 22:53
Like it or not, everyone is going to be affected by the stock market crash. Suppose (all hypothetically) Cotland owes Pushka money, perhaps from a land purchase. Suddenly, Cotland's economy is gone, and Pushka is not getting his money. Additionally, when Hawdawg, Pushka's major trade partner (just using your names), suddenly has its corporations and economy collapsing, Pushka loses a great deal of trade income, not to mention access to the goods. However, the effects can also be positive, as new nations may step in to fill the void left behind by more affected nations. We live in a global economy, and that's what happens.

On the plus side, my economy's been on the rise (according to ThirdGeek and NSTracker).

Jarvis Island is claimed by me, as are French Polynesia and Micronesia.
Layarteb
19-02-2006, 23:05
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









RomeW [Post 10128]: I am going to have to do that because there isn't enough information to go with each district.
Pushka [Post 10166]: Thread added.
Pushka/Kreynoria [Post 10176]: What land trade?
Khaif [Post 10177]: Thread added.
Cymrea [Post 10183]: Okay just keep in my your pop size is now determined by your pop as Cymrea.
Pushka [Post 10228]: You can blame that on the stupid tax bug. I am stuck at 0% taxes, which is crap. I've tried to raise them but it is just impossible so I RP with a 10% tax rate rather than that 0% mumbo-jumbo. Likewise, those countries with 100% taxes would be in serious economic problems because no business would be there with tax rates like that, nobody profits but the gov't.
TLS [Post 10232]: I'll take you up on that offer.
Pushka [Post 10259]: Baker Island is free, Caroline Islands are sub-divide into the Federated States of Micronesia in the eastern part of the group, and Palau at the extreme western end so they are claimed already, and Society Islands are part of French Polynesia.
Dweladelfia prime [Post 10272]: Jarvis is claimed under Kreynoria but Howland Island is free.
Teh Ninjas [Post 10284]: You can say that again. I'm RICH!
Squorn [Post 10308]: Thread added.
Pushka
19-02-2006, 23:12
Krey sold me Djoubouti for Ko-1 production rights and 20 bil dollars. Also aight i'll take just the baker island then.
[NS]Kreynoria
19-02-2006, 23:15
Didn't you also say something about a new air-to-air missile?
Pushka
19-02-2006, 23:19
Thats something coming up, but sure you can have that too once its done. Or you can have the ones i am using right now. Anyways you approve right?
Layarteb
19-02-2006, 23:38
Krey sold me Djoubouti for Ko-1 production rights and 20 bil dollars. Also aight i'll take just the baker island then.

Gotcha.
Cotland
19-02-2006, 23:42
I've sold my part of Northern Egypt (minus the Sinai and the Suez Canal) to Ottoman Khaif for an undisclosed sum of money and a few military bases.
Ottoman Khaif
19-02-2006, 23:48
I've sold my part of Northern Egypt (minus the Sinai and the Suez Canal) to Ottoman Khaif for an undisclosed sum of money and a few military bases.
I confirm this deal, and now I own Egypt...well Northern half..but its all good.
Ottoman Khaif
19-02-2006, 23:51
Alrighty then. If you want to start something (meeting with the groups that want to leave)

Most Arab nations were happy to join Elephantum, but Lebanon was different, so they would largely welcome a change. (my ex-most important Sultan was killed there)
Just bumping this confirm from Elephantum on me getting Lebanon.
Cotland
19-02-2006, 23:52
I confirm this deal, and now I own Egypt...well Northern half..but its all good.
Yeah, the people there will be happy to be under muslim rule again. Don't get me wrong, they had autonomy in everything but diplomatic and defense issues, but now they get that too.
Cotland
20-02-2006, 01:16
"Stortinget proposes name-change, people approve!"

OSLO (NTB): 84 % of the population are in favor of the name-change! The Kingdom of Norway is now known as the Realm of Cotland!

Earlier this month, the major opposition party in Stortinget proposed that the Kingdom should change its official name from the Kingdom of Norway, a name which isn't very popular in parts of the Realm far away from Norway itself, such as Australia and Israel, to another name. That namechange was discussed intensely in Stortinget over the past few weeks before the politicians finally decided on nominating the new official name "the Realm of Cotland", Cotland or ROC for short. This name-choice signals a clear homage to sitting PM Thomas Rothsky (FrP), who in his time was the Emperor of the old Empire of Cotland.

Politicians from all parties maintain that the order of business will remain the same as before, with only a new name being the change. Frank Orbeite (Ap) says that "the order of the government will be the same as always, with the King and Prime Minister in the pilots seat. This is little more than a change of our official name, not a completely new style of government every so often like the Carthaginians had a tendency of doing before the Merchant Princes came to power."

The name-choice was put to the real test when the referendum was held throughout the Realm a week ago. Turnouts for the voting was at a whooping 97 percent, and the last of the votes were counted yesterday. After making sure the whole of the Realm held their breath for a night, the officials announced the results today: 84 % are in favor, 13 % are against and 3 % voted blank.

The name-change marks a new page in the long and glorious history of the Realm. In the past, there has been several Cotlands, most of them Empires, all of them glorious. The last Empire, commanded by Thomas Rothsky suffered no defeats in any areas before Rothsky himself chose to listen to the people and step down as the Emperor. Shortly thereafter, the treacherous Russians invaded and took the lands earlier belonging to the Empire. Now, this author hopes that it is time for the new Cotland to show some strength and clearly show the world that it exists. If that will happen is left to be discovered though.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:21
The Empire applauds this name change and not only would like to display our liking of this new name but also to support this new name throughout the world.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:28
Me and Cotland have traded some stuff.

St. Lucia in the Lesser Antilles to him
N.Carolina to me.
Cotland
20-02-2006, 01:33
Me and Cotland have traded some stuff.

St. Lucia in the Lesser Antilles to him
N.Carolina to me.
Confirmed
Cotland
20-02-2006, 01:33
After reviewing the situation for the Navy, the Kingdom would like to offer for sale the following amount of aircraft.

SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters
TABThe Seahawk is a trusty ASW / SAR helicopter, capable of doing most of the tasks needed for a modern navy. The aircraft put up for sale were all refitted to "R"-standard a few years ago, and are in prime condition. All aircraft put up for sale are newly overhauled and will come with a full tank of gas. Dispite the excellent condition of the helicopters, they are used and as such, there will be a reduction in price. All aircraft are for sale for $15 million each. A total of 2,452 SH-60R Seahawks are for sale.

C-2B Greyhound transport aircraft
TABThe Greyhound is a trusty carrier-borne transport aircraft, capable of carrying a lot of goods and passengers over substantial distances. The aircraft are all refurbished and overhauled, and will arrive to the buyers with a full tank of gas. The aricraft are used, and as such, each plane costs only $12 million. There are a total of 630 C-2B Greyhounds for sale.

E-2E Hawkeye airborne early warning
TABThe Hawkeye is a trusty, proven design, capable of seeing and controlling aircraft quite a distance away. It is in short a carrier-borne AWACS aircraft. The Hawkeyes are all refurbished and overhauled, stripped only of classified equipment and electronics which are replaced with top-notch unclassified equipment and electronics. They will arrive with a full tank of gas, and cost only $20 million each. There are a total of 98 Hawkeyes for sale.
No one?
RomeW
20-02-2006, 01:36
Roman Confederacy members, please check the forums.

I have Ethiopia and Somalia...

I was talking about my (main) nation based on the NS Earth (which I pull from the Rome I have on Vicendum), not the Earth II version. I connected myself to Ethiopia and Somalia on the NS Earth because in RL Italy took both of them (well, most of Somalia and all of Ethiopia).

I understood the concept of death once then i was drunk, then i woke up i did not remember what it was, but i remember the feeling that it all made perfect sense.

Guys in the drunk philosophical debating i am on a whole other level up above you, sorry guys, thats a birthright right there.

<snip>

@Rome: You sure there wasn't any marihuana in that beer you drank?

Completely 100% positive. See, getting drunk is always a revelation, to life itself, how much you can take or anything else really. It is true, beer goggles do exist, and it's now my duty to tap into them.

Perhaps I should expound my wild night, because that will explain why everything now makes sense. I went out with a female friend of mine to first a strip club (she really, really, REALLY wanted to do it, and I said "okay". Do you really think a guy's going to say no to that?) and then a nightclub. I'd explain what happened between me and the stripper but then the mods'll come after me, so I won't. Needless to say, the strip club part was the best, though after I got my last drink (and lost my inhibitions) the nightclub wasn't so bad.

For more details, go here (NOTE: link is also PG-13):

http://dgrants.blogspot.com/2006/02/im-totally-freakin-hammered.html
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:38
Roman Confederacy members, please check the forums.



I was talking about my (main) nation based on the NS Earth (which I pull from the Rome I have on Vicendum), not the Earth II version. I connected myself to Ethiopia and Somalia on the NS Earth because in RL Italy took both of them (well, most of Somalia and all of Ethiopia).



Completely 100% positive. See, getting drunk is always a revelation, to life itself, how much you can take or anything else really. It is true, beer goggles do exist, and it's now my duty to tap into them.

Perhaps I should expound my wild night, because that will explain why everything now makes sense. I went out with a female friend of mine to first a strip club (she really, really, REALLY wanted to do it, and I said "okay". Do you really think a guy's going to say no to that?) and then a nightclub. I'd explain what happened between me and the stripper but then the mods'll come after me, so I won't. Needless to say, the strip club part was the best, though after I got my last drink (and lost my inhibitions) the nightclub wasn't so bad.

For more details, go here (NOTE: link is also PG-13):

http://dgrants.blogspot.com/2006/02/im-totally-freakin-hammered.html

I will link your blog in mine if you link mine.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:41
The Empire would like to publically announce that the island of Tobago is currently home to three very large, very state of the art, very new, and very fabulous resorts. Newly built and opened, international tourists are welcome throughout tourist season and we can proclaim that Tobago is south of the hurricane belt, therefore not subject to very many storms.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 01:46
I will link your blog in mine if you link mine.

Thanks. :) Got it. How should I label your blog groupings? I used "Blogs of The Forsaken Outlaw".

My post has been updated- should work now.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:47
Thanks. :) Got it. How should I label your blog groupings? I used "Blogs of The Forsaken Outlaw".

My post has been updated- should work now.

Didn't even know you knew where my blogs where LOL. I posted yours.
Cotland
20-02-2006, 01:51
From Department of Transportation, Ministry of the Interior
To EOL
Subject Possibility of new Commercial destination

Dear sir/madam

We saw your advertisement, and we are wondering about the possibility of opening a direct connection between Bardaros or St. Lucia and Tobago, either by boat or by airplane. We see this as a way of generating more profit for both our nations, as this will lead to an easier way of tourists to get to the destination while they at the same time may spend money in Caribia (the name of the Cottish Carribean province). We would like to know how the EOL thinks of this idea, and are hoping for a swift and hopefully positive answer.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 01:55
From Department of Transportation, Ministry of the Interior
To EOL
Subject Possibility of new Commercial destination

Dear sir/madam

We saw your advertisement, and we are wondering about the possibility of opening a direct connection between Bardaros or St. Lucia and Tobago, either by boat or by airplane. We see this as a way of generating more profit for both our nations, as this will lead to an easier way of tourists to get to the destination while they at the same time may spend money in Caribia (the name of the Cottish Carribean province). We would like to know how the EOL thinks of this idea, and are hoping for a swift and hopefully positive answer.

There is a small airstrip on Tobago but most of the traffic to the island is by boat.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 02:00
http://forsakenoutlaw.blogspot.com/
Tainted Dreams of Misery

I got the links, and I posted them on my blog. Since there's two blogs, I was going to create a sub-heading to group them in. I want to know what I should call that subheading. I've used "Blogs Of The Forsaken Outlaw".

Come up with a new meaning of life? Next time I get drunk no cuz last time I got drunk I already created and went over all the possibilities ;) Besides, got more important things to worry about than the meaning of life, like "Why do I think about what the meaning of life is?"

I know you missed one- specifically the one with "Georgia On My Mind" ("Georgia" being the name of the stripper I was with). Besides, I already know the answer to that last question- we think about it because to understand the meaning of life is to understand the purpose of our existence. If we don't know why we're here, then we have no reason to be here.
Cotland
20-02-2006, 02:01
Then with your permission, we shall establish a boat route between St. Lucia and Tobago. The airport at St. Lucia shall be enlarged to be able to accept even the largest civilian passenger aircraft. We are offering tourists from all around the world the possibility to avoid having to fly to Layarteb City and from there to a port where you can take a boat to Tobago, but rather direct airlink between St. Lucia and the nation in question, and a cheap boatride from St. Lucia to Tobago.

[OoC And that last bit is known to all nations in Earth II]
RomeW
20-02-2006, 02:03
Didn't even know you knew where my blogs where LOL. I posted yours.

I've read your Web Site...in fact, I posted a comment on one of your blogs (James' Laws Of The Road, Part I).
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 02:03
Then with your permission, we shall establish a boat route between St. Lucia and Tobago. The airport at St. Lucia shall be enlarged to be able to accept even the largest civilian passenger aircraft. We are offering tourists from all around the world the possibility to avoid having to fly to Layarteb City and from there to a port where you can take a boat to Tobago, but rather direct airlink between St. Lucia and the nation in question, and a cheap boatride from St. Lucia to Tobago.

[OoC And that last bit is known to all nations in Earth II]

It is best if they fly to Trinidad and use the airport there as it is large enough to support A380s and bigger, should they come out.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 02:04
I've read your Web Site...in fact, I posted a comment on one of your blogs (James' Laws Of The Road, Part I).

Forgot about that haha! Yeah I am going to do Part II eventually.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 02:16
Forgot about that haha! Yeah I am going to do Part II eventually.

Your blog is great. It's a nice read.
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 02:20
Your blog is great. It's a nice read.

Which one?
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 02:23
F-22A For Export? (http://www.arcforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80481)
RomeW
20-02-2006, 03:25
Which one?

Both of them. They're very well-written and descriptive.

Though what happened concerning the last post? Who won?
Pushka
20-02-2006, 04:21
We have made the decision to transfer 8th Gvardia as well as 34 and 35th armies to Dijoubi, our new autonomous republic in Africa. In addition to that 40th, 41st and 42nd armies will be created out of the local populace integrated with Russian officerial personal, until officers can be recruited and trained from the locals. The armies will be fully equiped and shall have all standard additional divisions attached to them, including divisions from R/C-R, nuclear forces, and so on and so forth. The Russian Federation VMS African naval fleet will consist of 8 Flotillas and 4 Submarine Divisions.

Baker Island, the territory we recently acquired in the pacific will serve as a naval base, with a main mission to station and resupply Russian VMS vessels operating in the Pacific. The island's land area will be increased using modern technologies to house additional vessels.

http://newsfromrussia.com/images/newsline/Ivanov_Sergei.jpg

Oleg Medvediev,
Russian Minister of Defense

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The central Duma and People's Assembly members will be elected by citizens of Russian Federation in the Dijoubi autonomous republic in the following months, after which they will be represented in both houses of Parliment and will have people who are familiar with their culture and will look out for interests of the Republic. The parliment members will all be elected from local populace, same goes for the elected governor of the republic, as well as city mayors, and most other government positions. The process of social integration has begun, numerous Universities have already dispatched their students on cultural exchange programs with the new Republic. Steps are being taken to fight STDs and other deceases that are plaguing the region. We will help our brothers and sisters in their time of need, not just with words but with direct action!

http://newsinfo.ru/news/2005/12/medvedev_opt.jpg

Vladimir Ivanov,
President of Russian Federation

OOC: What you guys think of the pic i picked for my president?
Pushka
20-02-2006, 04:56
Listen:

http://download.sovmusic.ru/m/officers.mp3

thats a kind of song that makes your fists clutch and makes you want to go denfend the motherland.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 04:56
OOC: What you guys think of the pic i picked for my president?

Works. Doesn't seem like a serious guy though- he looks more laid back.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 04:59
The Gathering (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10456849#post10456849)

Any nations whose economy is not controlled by their government are invited. RP as a businessman or woman please, the invitations were not sent to government officials for soon to be seen reasons.

Just so its known my nation is inconsistent as it should be, what some people choose may not be popular with other members of the government. Wilhelm represents an anti-thesis to the Patriarch for the moment.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 04:59
If i am not mistaken thats Vice-Prime Minister of Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev, in RL i mean. He looks tough in all his pressconferences but i can't find any of those pics on google.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 05:01
http://download.sovmusic.ru/m/saintwar.mp3

Another song that makes you wanna burn some Reinshtags for the motherland.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 05:05
What about this one?

http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1297857526

Or this one?

http://www.mosnews.com/files/7676/medvedev.jpg
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 05:11
@ Cotland: I'll take you up on that sale of aircraft, I'll prbly put it in the latest thread.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 05:51
What about this one?

http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1297857526

Or this one?

http://www.mosnews.com/files/7676/medvedev.jpg

They are worse then the one i posted.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 05:56
I found this one after looking on yandex (russian search engine), what do you guys think is it better then the one i already posted?

http://newsinfo.ru/news/2005/12/medvedev_opt.jpg

and this

http://www.russianamerica.com/ic/img.lenta.ru/news/2005/05/17/gazprom1/picturesmall.jpg
Pushka
20-02-2006, 06:02
Elephantum so how much for 30 million barrels of oil?
RomeW
20-02-2006, 06:04
They are worse then the one i posted.

May I ask why?

I found this one after looking on yandex (russian search engine), what do you guys think is it better then the one i already posted?

http://newsinfo.ru/news/2005/12/medvedev_opt.jpg

and this

http://www.russianamerica.com/ic/img.lenta.ru/news/2005/05/17/gazprom1/picturesmall.jpg

First one.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 06:07
May I ask why?

Oh eh, first one is kind of small and quality is bad and on the second one he got 4 chins, thats not a good PR picture.



First one.

Thanks, i changed.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 06:12
The Gathering (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10456849#post10456849)

Any nations whose economy is not controlled by their government are invited. RP as a businessman or woman please, the invitations were not sent to government officials for soon to be seen reasons.

Just so its known my nation is inconsistent as it should be, what some people choose may not be popular with other members of the government. Wilhelm represents an anti-thesis to the Patriarch for the moment.

Interesting stuff Bjorn. You want to create a global government ruled by corporations?
RomeW
20-02-2006, 06:38
Thanks, i changed.

You're welcome.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 06:44
Interesting stuff Bjorn. You want to create a global government ruled by corporations?

I'm RPing this idea through Wilhelm, he does. Me? I just want a good RP.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 06:47
God damn i sang this song in first grade in chorus class. God damn, getting all sentimental now. Time flies by so fast it isn't funny.

http://download.sovmusic.ru/m/katyusha.mp3
Layarteb
20-02-2006, 15:48
If you are having trouble logging into my forum do not fret it happens every now and then. Just use this link and this URL to log-in. I can't explain it, I don't know jack about PHP.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/
Cymrea
20-02-2006, 17:08
After reviewing the situation for the Navy, the Kingdom would like to offer for sale the following amount of aircraft.

SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters
TABThe Seahawk is a trusty ASW / SAR helicopter, capable of doing most of the tasks needed for a modern navy. The aircraft put up for sale were all refitted to "R"-standard a few years ago, and are in prime condition. All aircraft put up for sale are newly overhauled and will come with a full tank of gas. Dispite the excellent condition of the helicopters, they are used and as such, there will be a reduction in price. All aircraft are for sale for $15 million each. A total of 2,452 SH-60R Seahawks are for sale.

C-2B Greyhound transport aircraft
TABThe Greyhound is a trusty carrier-borne transport aircraft, capable of carrying a lot of goods and passengers over substantial distances. The aircraft are all refurbished and overhauled, and will arrive to the buyers with a full tank of gas. The aricraft are used, and as such, each plane costs only $12 million. There are a total of 630 C-2B Greyhounds for sale.

E-2E Hawkeye airborne early warning
TABThe Hawkeye is a trusty, proven design, capable of seeing and controlling aircraft quite a distance away. It is in short a carrier-borne AWACS aircraft. The Hawkeyes are all refurbished and overhauled, stripped only of classified equipment and electronics which are replaced with top-notch unclassified equipment and electronics. They will arrive with a full tank of gas, and cost only $20 million each. There are a total of 98 Hawkeyes for sale.


If still available, the Cymrean Armed Forces would like to purchase 10 of the SH-60R Seahawks. The CAF has a small $5B defense budget, but ten new choppers should be do-able.
Huahin
20-02-2006, 17:38
I'd be interested in purchasing all the Hawkeyes.
Cymrea
20-02-2006, 18:28
I was wondering how much a $5B defense budget would pay for.

After having spent three years in the Canadian Forces, I figure I have a decent idea of what kind of assets Canada has. I looked up the defence budget for Canada; it's currently $14.3B with 62,000 uniformed troops.

Given my current military budget, I figure I can maintain the roughly 20,000-strong force that was pivotal in acquiring my nation in the first place, as per my factbook. And I think I can safely snag 10 new Seahawks without breaking the bank. :cool:
Huahin
20-02-2006, 19:11
Message to Cymrea
Due to our relative geographical proximity, we offer you our pilot training skills for a greatly discounted price, and we will train the first pilots of your Air Force for free as we believe your nation's ability to defend itself crucial to this regions stability. That is, if you can accept help from a nation with a deeply English heritage.
Yours sincerely,
Air Marshall Leigh-Mallory
Chief of Air Staff
Huahinian Armed Forces Cabinet
Cymrea
20-02-2006, 20:51
Message to Cymrea
Due to our relative geographical proximity, we offer you our pilot training skills for a greatly discounted price, and we will train the first pilots of your Air Force for free as we believe your nation's ability to defend itself crucial to this regions stability. That is, if you can accept help from a nation with a deeply English heritage.
Yours sincerely,
Air Marshall Leigh-Mallory
Chief of Air Staff
Huahinian Armed Forces Cabinet

TO: Air Marshall Leigh-Mallory, Chief of Air Staff, Huahinian Armed Forces Cabinet
FROM: Consul Legatus Gareth Rhys
RE: Message to Cymrea

Dear Sir,

With regard to your recent offer of pilot training, I would like to extend the gratitude of Dominion of Cymrea and the Cymrean Armed Forces. The recent request to purchase Seahawk helicopters from the Kingdom of Cotland comes with the understanding that pilots will be needed for them. Unfortunately, our current military assets do not include any individuals with the knowledge or skill to man the hopefully forthcoming Seahawks.

With this in mind, I have been authorized by the Cymrean Senate to extend to the Huahinian Armed Forces an invitation to send flight instructors and training personnel to Cymrea. Your personnel will be housed, fed, and paid a modest supplement to their Huahinian salaries in exchange for their services.

This invitation will, as authorized, be extended to other nations. First among them will be our neighbour and regnant RomeW, and others are still being considered by the Cymrean Senate.

It is agreed that the ability of Cymrea to defend herself is an important factor in the stability of the region, and the Ministry of Defense is doing its very best to accomplish this goal with the limited resources and funds available to it. With our continued and dedicated effort, Cymrea will become a stable and reliable nation capable of defending not only herself, but also her neighbours and allies.

The Dominion of Cymrea was founded on the desire to establish a sovereign homeland for the Welsh people. Though this has been proven impossible over the centuries under the British Crown, Cymrea does not harbour any hostility toward Britain or the British people. We have accomplished our sovereignty and any slates have been wiped clean. It is with a fresh and optimistic outlook that Cymrea moves forward.

Ever in service,
Gareth Rhys, Consul Legatus, Dominion of Cymrea.
RomeW
20-02-2006, 21:11
RomeW

Don't mean to be a pain, but I should just be "Rome". The "W" is there because NS won't allow me to have "Rome".
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 21:32
A Break from Reality (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10460793#post10460793)

I'm very proud of my title
Ottoman Khaif
20-02-2006, 21:40
A Break from Reality (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10460793#post10460793)

I'm very proud of my title
And one step closer to the world of Fantasy or an Acid Trip...you choose the interpretation kids!
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 22:05
LOL, indeed

Videogames=my drug of choice.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 22:16
ATTENTION ALL!!

Look in the Angus Dei thread, North Germania has started it.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 22:34
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10457821&postcount=68

Not really, he just moved some boats, you're either over-reacting again or purposefully trying to appear like a martyr because you want this war.

The nation who started this, Tyrandis, is not around to make this a decent RP and I plan to ignore it until activity increases. I will not hold back some of my RPs for a person who shows up once a week and thinks he deserves a fucking continent for it.
Hirgizstan
20-02-2006, 22:36
I'm 100% with Bjornoya about the Tyrandis inactivity. Its not right.

And NG is just moving ships, he hasn't threatened you. He can move ships anywhere in the world as long as it doesn't violate territorial waters.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 22:38
He is trying to pressure me, i am answering with adequate amount of pressure. He now either backs down, does nothing or starts a war, knowing NG, he'll probably start a war.

Tyr, is on MSN right now, there is simply nothing for him to post about at this point.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 22:41
Nothing to post about!!??

He's the one starting this, he has to make the moves not us. If he wants to expand he has to actually do shit.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 22:43
A Break from Reality (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10460793#post10460793)

I'm very proud of my title

Final Fantasy all the way!
Pushka
20-02-2006, 22:45
Nothing to post about!!??

He's the one starting this, he has to make the moves not us. If he wants to expand he has to actually do shit.

There are certain things that need to be settled in preparation.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 22:49
There are certain things that need to be settled in preparation.

You mean getting TN or Turetel to back him up in his insane conquest? This war's going to last forever!
Tyrandis
20-02-2006, 22:50
You mean getting TN or Turetel to back him up in his insane conquest? This war's going to last forever!

Check your TGs.

As a side note, I refuse to make war if it will devolve into pages of OOC rambling, because that's just not fun.
Pushka
20-02-2006, 23:00
You mean getting TN or Turetel to back him up in his insane conquest? This war's going to last forever!

No thats done with. There are other things.
Bjornoya
20-02-2006, 23:01
Check your TGs.

As a side note, I refuse to make war if it will devolve into pages of OOC rambling, because that's just not fun.

Done
Huahin
20-02-2006, 23:15
TO: Air Marshall Leigh-Mallory, Chief of Air Staff, Huahinian Armed Forces Cabinet
FROM: Consul Legatus Gareth Rhys
RE: Message to Cymrea

Dear Sir,

With regard to your recent offer of pilot training, I would like to extend the gratitude of Dominion of Cymrea and the Cymrean Armed Forces. The recent request to purchase Seahawk helicopters from the Kingdom of Cotland comes with the understanding that pilots will be needed for them. Unfortunately, our current military assets do not include any individuals with the knowledge or skill to man the hopefully forthcoming Seahawks.

With this in mind, I have been authorized by the Cymrean Senate to extend to the Huahinian Armed Forces an invitation to send flight instructors and training personnel to Cymrea. Your personnel will be housed, fed, and paid a modest supplement to their Huahinian salaries in exchange for their services.

This invitation will, as authorized, be extended to other nations. First among them will be our neighbour and regnant RomeW, and others are still being considered by the Cymrean Senate.

It is agreed that the ability of Cymrea to defend herself is an important factor in the stability of the region, and the Ministry of Defense is doing its very best to accomplish this goal with the limited resources and funds available to it. With our continued and dedicated effort, Cymrea will become a stable and reliable nation capable of defending not only herself, but also her neighbours and allies.

The Dominion of Cymrea was founded on the desire to establish a sovereign homeland for the Welsh people. Though this has been proven impossible over the centuries under the British Crown, Cymrea does not harbour any hostility toward Britain or the British people. We have accomplished our sovereignty and any slates have been wiped clean. It is with a fresh and optimistic outlook that Cymrea moves forward.

Ever in service,
Gareth Rhys, Consul Legatus, Dominion of Cymrea.

Message to Cymrea

Excellent, we will send our first personnel right away. If you are interested, we can sell you basic jet fighters at a very low rate, and train your pilots on our soil on our own trainers until they are ready. Upon confirmation of interest, we will send you the detail of our fighters.
Cymrea
20-02-2006, 23:44
Don't mean to be a pain, but I should just be "Rome". The "W" is there because NS won't allow me to have "Rome".

No pain at all. In fact, just the opposite. I've thought of using "Rome West", but I don't know if there's some differentiation between your territories in North America and the rest of the Empire, since they're not contiguous. Not that many nations here have solid contiguous territories...:)

Also:

TO: Consul Legatus of the Roman Imperial Armed Forces
FROM: Consul Legatus Gareth Rhys
RE: Military Training

Dear Sir,

It is my great honour to extend to you, on behalf of the Cymrean Ministry of Defense, an invitation to assist in the establishment of a military university for the training of future officers for the Cymrean Armed Forces.

It is our goal to found a premier war college with the best instructors possible, construct a curriculum that covers everything from the historical through to the speculative, and establish a solid foundation from which Cymrea can build an advanced military.

From our regnant Rome, we ask only for instructors - those with the advantage of long experience, skill, and training in the Roman Empire. Roman instructors would be housed on campus and, in addition, paid a supplement to their Imperial salaries, as we would consider their instruction to constitute international military duty.

I thank you in advance and look forward to your response.


Ever in service,
Gareth Rhys, Consul Legatus, Dominion of Cymrea.
Cotland
21-02-2006, 00:10
Crymea 20 Seahawks huh? Wire me $300 million and they're yours.

Huahin What the heck, why not? Wire me $1.96 billion and they're yours.
Cymrea
21-02-2006, 00:11
Message to Cymrea

Excellent, we will send our first personnel right away. If you are interested, we can sell you basic jet fighters at a very low rate, and train your pilots on our soil on our own trainers until they are ready. Upon confirmation of interest, we will send you the detail of our fighters.


Dear Sir,

This letter confirms the interest of the Cymrean Armed Forces in the possibility of acquiring fighter aircraft in the future. Be advised that with our limited budget and resources the CAF may not be quite ready to make more military purchases at the moment. In the meantime, however, we are certainly more than willing to consider any Huahinian proposals.

With regard to Huahinian personnel, they will be housed at CFB Azuria - near the city formerly known as Prince Rupert - for the duration of their stay. It is anticipated that a training contract for ten instructors, for a period of thirty-six months, will be sufficient to achieve our training objectives.


Ever in service,
Gareth Rhys, Consul Legatus, Dominion of Cymrea.
Cotland
21-02-2006, 00:23
Official message to the World

We are alarmed by the sudden Russian mobilization and demand an explanation as to why they are mobilizing over a Germanian naval exercise. Again, this is an example of Russian overreaction, an issue which the Russian Federation has denied in known Russian style. The Germanians sent a relatively small naval force, and you respond by mobilizing your entire military.

We strongly condemn the Russian Federation for warmongering and for increasing the already high tensions in the area, tensions which we have tried to calm without any cooperation from the Russian Federation. We remind the Russian Federation that it was they who walked out from the summit in Rome, clearly showing the world that they had no desire for peace. We demand a full Russian demobilization immediately, as this can only be seen as preperations for a Russian invasion of the Fourth Reich.

Furthermore, in order to reduce tensions, we also demand that the Germanian warships remain in international waters and does not voilate Russian territorial waters.
Cymrea
21-02-2006, 00:25
Crymea 20 Seahawks huh? Wire me $300 million and they're yours.

Huahin What the heck, why not? Wire me $1.96 billion and they're yours.


First of all, it's Cymrea. Crymea is a misspelling of a whole other part of the world. :p Just razzin' ya.

And I only wanted 10 Seahawks. I'd have ordered many, many more if I had it in my budget! So...

The Cymrean Ministry of Defense wires $150 million to the Kingdom of Cotland for 10 SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 00:31
First of all, it's Cymrea. Crymea is a misspelling of a whole other part of the world. :p Just razzin' ya.

And I only wanted 10 Seahawks. I'd have ordered many, many more if I had it in my budget! So...

The Cymrean Ministry of Defense wires $150 million to the Kingdom of Cotland for 10 SH-60R Seahawk ASW helicopters.

One step closer to solving the stock market crash, yay!

BTW, here's thread for those interested in fixing the problem: got buried

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469742

EDIT: *sigh*
United States of Brink
21-02-2006, 02:08
Let us remember that NG's fleet is moving into postition to block russian ports. I believe it is every right for Russia to be wary. ALthough the full scale moblization might have been a little much, during these times one cant be to sure.

I recommend both parties stand down, and blame no one for relationship's sake.
Cymrea
21-02-2006, 05:05
Perhaps, if military training exercises must be run in the region, they could be done jointly, with North Germanian and Pushkan forces coordinating and cooperating with each other.

Otherwise, this is why we discern between international and territorial waters....
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 05:11
Perhaps, if military training exercises must be run in the region, they could be done jointly, with North Germanian and Pushkan forces coordinating and cooperating with each other.

Otherwise, this is why we discern between international and territorial waters....

It's not happening man, not happening at all...
Pushka
21-02-2006, 05:42
Let us remember that NG's fleet is moving into postition to block russian ports. I believe it is every right for Russia to be wary. ALthough the full scale moblization might have been a little much, during these times one cant be to sure.

I recommend both parties stand down, and blame no one for relationship's sake.

You think thats full scale? Oh brother, this is just immediate responce, you gonna know then its full scale. Plus he got 1.5 million troops 30 kilometers outside my borders. Now i put up 2 million troops to keep them from doing anything stupid like trying to advance across my borders. What course of action do you guys expect?
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 05:44
Perhaps, if military training exercises must be run in the region, they could be done jointly, with North Germanian and Pushkan forces coordinating and cooperating with each other.

Otherwise, this is why we discern between international and territorial waters....

No offense, but that's the funniest thing I've read all day.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 05:45
Official message to the World

We are alarmed by the sudden Russian mobilization and demand an explanation as to why they are mobilizing over a Germanian naval exercise. Again, this is an example of Russian overreaction, an issue which the Russian Federation has denied in known Russian style. The Germanians sent a relatively small naval force, and you respond by mobilizing your entire military. tried to calm without any cooperation from the Russian Federation. We remind the Russian Federation that it was they who walked out from the summit in Rome, clearly showing the world that they had no desire for peace. We demand a full Russian demobilization immediately, as this can only be seen as preperations for a Russian invasion of the Fourth Reich.

Furthermore, in order to reduce tensions, we also demand that the Germanian warships remain in international waters and does not voilate Russian territorial waters.

Russian Responce

The Reich has placed 1.5 million troops 30 kilometers outside of our borders and now they have mobilized a naval fleet towards our territorial waters. Taking into consideration the racist nature of the Reich's regime as well as the high state of tension already existing between ourselves and member states of The October Alliance you must admit that our actions are propelled by nothing except common sense and wishes of self-preservation.

http://newsinfo.ru/news/2005/12/medvedev_opt.jpg

-Vladimir Ivanov
Pushka
21-02-2006, 05:47
Perhaps, if military training exercises must be run in the region, they could be done jointly, with North Germanian and Pushkan forces coordinating and cooperating with each other.

Otherwise, this is why we discern between international and territorial waters....

I'd be all up on board, actually i have proposed this immediately following the NAP between VCO and TOA, but it kind of got buried. The problem is NG's government is racist, they won't operate with me, neither would i want to operate with them unless they change their stance. In addition to that all that TOA does is attempt to bully me, so that kind of hampers any improving relations movements.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 05:57
One step closer to solving the stock market crash, yay!

BTW, here's thread for those interested in fixing the problem: got buried

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469742

EDIT: *sigh*

ROFL! Lay sent in the crazy killer guy from Con Air.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 06:00
It's Malkovich! Fucking John Malkovich! AWESOME!!!
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 06:08
Oh, BTW I'll wait a while for some more to show up before getting that meeting started. In the meantime enjoy some aged Napa Valley, Mendoza, and Baden wines accompanied by various roasts and cheeses.
RomeW
21-02-2006, 07:17
No pain at all. In fact, just the opposite. I've thought of using "Rome West", but I don't know if there's some differentiation between your territories in North America and the rest of the Empire, since they're not contiguous. Not that many nations here have solid contiguous territories...:)

There isn't. It's all still the Roman Empire. In fact, my Empire is more of a federation than a real empire- the Dominions are extremely autonomous, with the only restrictions placed upon them is that they have to remit some of their taxes to the central authority in Rome, the citizens must be able to have universal suffrage when called to vote for a new Emperor (an election which is happening this year), their Legions can be called upon by Rome at any time, free trade must exist between the Dominions and in matters of "Empire-wide" foreign affairs (such as relationships within alliances), the power falls to Rome. Other than that, there's quite a lot of freedom afforded.

Also:

TO: Consul Legatus Giorgius Aurelius Giormani
FROM: Consul Legatus Gareth Rhys
RE: Military Training

Dear Sir,

It is my great honour to extend to you, on behalf of the Cymrean Ministry of Defense, an invitation to assist in the establishment of a military university for the training of future officers for the Cymrean Armed Forces.

It is our goal to found a premier war college with the best instructors possible, construct a curriculum that covers everything from the historical through to the speculative, and establish a solid foundation from which Cymrea can build an advanced military.

From our regnant Rome, we ask only for instructors - those with the advantage of long experience, skill, and training in the Roman Empire. Roman instructors would be housed on campus and, in addition, paid a supplement to their Imperial salaries, as we would consider their instruction to constitute international military duty.

I thank you in advance and look forward to your response.


Ever in service,
Gareth Rhys, Consul Legatus, Dominion of Cymrea.

OOC: I inserted the name of the Consul Legatus (which can be abbreviated to the CL) which can be found in my factbook.

IC:

We are very much interested in the idea and would like to explore it further. We would like to base the main campus in Rome itself and perhaps open an international academy too, with several campuses also being present throughout the Empire.

We look forward to hearing your ideas.

Giorgius Aurelius Giormani
Consul Legatus
Imperium Romanum
February 21, MMVI
RomeW
21-02-2006, 07:49
OOC:

Bjornoya: what Final Fantasy game is that from? I may be interested in jumping in.

IC:

The Roman Empire is deeply concerned by the recent actions in Europe. In the interests of peace and stability, we are again urging all nations to resolve their issues diplomatically, and we will provide a forum for which this can be achieved. It is prudent that the nations of the region develop a dialogue with one another, since all that we have witnessed is nothing more than vitriol and that can only escalate.

We are genuinely interested in solving this problem peacefully and we hope that our call will not go unheeded. The future of Europe hangs in the balance.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 07:54
Chocobos? Nearly all of them, been in II-XII now. They'll be spread throughout Bjornoya soon and I'd be happy to sell some to the world (make great petting zoo exhibits, kids will love them) Chocobo racing will be held daily in the BISE starting on Wednesday so get ready to place those bets!
RomeW
21-02-2006, 08:41
Chocobos? Nearly all of them, been in II-XII now. They'll be spread throughout Bjornoya soon and I'd be happy to sell some to the world (make great petting zoo exhibits, kids will love them) Chocobo racing will be held daily in the BISE starting on Wednesday so get ready to place those bets!

So Cloud's not going to get involved? I was so looking forward to that...though the chocobo races should be interesting too.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 08:53
So Cloud's not going to get involved? I was so looking forward to that...though the chocobo races should be interesting too.

I think having Cloud in Bjornoya would be like Lay being able to get Darth Vader... it would be really cool but very unrealistic.

I was too excited, Chocobo racing is up now in the BISE tonight, winners will be announced tommorow.
RomeW
21-02-2006, 09:17
I think having Cloud in Bjornoya would be like Lay being able to get Darth Vader... it would be really cool but very unrealistic.

I was too excited, Chocobo racing is up now in the BISE tonight, winners will be announced tommorow.

I see. The racing is in the thread right now, no?
Neuvo Rica
21-02-2006, 09:37
I'm back
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 17:12
I see. The racing is in the thread right now, no?

Yes it is!

Wait, if you played FFVII you should know what inspired my to make Visara, and who Wilhelm Kaufmann is.
Cymrea
21-02-2006, 17:13
Perhaps, if military training exercises must be run in the region, they could be done jointly, with North Germanian and Pushkan forces coordinating and cooperating with each other.

Otherwise, this is why we discern between international and territorial waters....

I must admit, I didn't read every single one of the 570+ pages of Earth II before I made my above statement, so I'm not familiar with all the details of the apparently ongoing situation between North Germania and Pushka. My post was an unfortunate knee-jerk common-sense response. Sorry. :D

I'm certainly interested to see NG's response, if any. It doesn't look like he's been around much lately. Although...miss a couple of days and this thread goes off on ya.

No offense taken, by the way. It was a relatively uninformed post, and a bit idealistic, it would seem. Besides, you'd know if I took offense, with a little of this...

:sniper:
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 17:18
Duck Hunting?
Pushka
21-02-2006, 17:32
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10465855#post10465855

Enlarging the Baker

Sorry for the crappy first post Spiz, i feel pretty shitty right now in the head region and i didn't even get drunk last night, i don't know what the hell is going on.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 17:42
If Hyperbia is Decree 12 I claim his portion of Antarctica
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 17:45
Could I have his portion of antartica I have no land except howland Island.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 17:49
You'll be getting all of Squornshelous Antarctic Territory no?

I'll see how it plays out, I don't give land away but I do make deals.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 17:52
You'll be getting all of Squornshelous Antarctic Territory no?

I'll see how it plays out, I don't give land away but I do make deals.

How much do you want for it? Or what do you want for it?
Huahin
21-02-2006, 17:53
$1.96 billion wired to Norway. These aircraft will be refitted for special duties above our Artic Islands. Instead of taking off from and landing on Carriers, we will use the same technology to allow them to be operated from very short runways which are situated on almost all our islands. This will enable us to set up a sensor net through which no-one can pass.
The Huahinian Gov't would also like to table bids for Rome's Ellesmere Island, and the EOL's Baffin Island, Southampton Island, and the other surrounding smaller islands. (all these are in north Canada by the way!)
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 17:55
How do you know when to claim land of people who are Decree 12?
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 18:22
How much do you want for it? Or what do you want for it?

?
Pushka
21-02-2006, 18:44
$1.96 billion wired to Norway. These aircraft will be refitted for special duties above our Artic Islands. Instead of taking off from and landing on Carriers, we will use the same technology to allow them to be operated from very short runways which are situated on almost all our islands. This will enable us to set up a sensor net through which no-one can pass.
The Huahinian Gov't would also like to table bids for Rome's Ellesmere Island, and the EOL's Baffin Island, Southampton Island, and the other surrounding smaller islands. (all these are in north Canada by the way!)

Hey Huahin remember the whole thing in the Pacific? Can i get a responce?
Huahin
21-02-2006, 18:47
Hmm, Varsola sent me a telegram, so I...oops I should have sent one back! It's in the Atlantic anyway.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 18:50
Anyways, you threatened to attack my jet fighters, i ICly asked you why, i'd like an answer.
Pantheaa
21-02-2006, 19:44
If Hyperbia is Decree 12 I claim his portion of Antarctica


What the hell? Since when can you claim land before its D12. It's like saying that Santa's presents belong to you even before they are delivered.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 19:47
Hyperbia was on 2 hours ago, check it out on nationstates.net. You can invade him and i don't he would mind but you will have to notify him that you are invading.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 20:24
2 months wo/ an IC post = Decree 12

He has gone unnoticed for a long time and hasn't posted since I've been here.
Hawdawg
21-02-2006, 21:04
Official Announcement from The Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Due to recent actions beyond our control in the BISE and an overall downturn in international trade, we have been forced to make immediate cuts in our DoD. We have deactivated some 45 Air Force Divisions, in a broad base reduction to lessen the strain of the military on our economy. We are still commited to a strong defense of our homeland and although we have reduced our capability somewhat we still would like to remind the international community we are by no means in a weakened state.

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Pantheaa
21-02-2006, 21:15
You know i have no idea why people want to hold Arctic land in the first place. Norway was willing to fight and die over Bouvet Island..which is a freaking ice cube. What exactly is the purpose of holding arctic land? What kind of idiot would want to live in the North Pole
United States of Brink
21-02-2006, 21:21
Who owns Zaire? Didnt find anything on claims list. Just want to clear that up. If unowned (i wish) id sure like to laim claim to it.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 21:21
You know i have no idea why people want to hold Arctic land in the first place. Norway was willing to fight and die over Bouvet Island..which is a freaking ice cube. What exactly is the purpose of holding arctic land? What kind of idiot would want to live in the North Pole

One word: Oil
Cotland
21-02-2006, 21:32
First off, Bouvet is far from the Artic. It's near Antartica, on the other side of the world globe. The reason why I demanded it is national pride and patriotism. The hell if anyone is going to hold Norwegian territory but myself. Its also part of my long-term plans...
Pushka
21-02-2006, 21:39
Following the same logic i should demand all of Russia for myself. Anyways, if you tried to pull that stunt with Bouvet island on me, that'd start the WW2.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 21:40
There was a WW3?
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 21:43
Who owns Zaire? Didnt find anything on claims list. Just want to clear that up. If unowned (i wish) id sure like to laim claim to it.

Zaire=Democratic Republic of Congo(split between Hirgy, TN, and myself)
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 21:48
So Bjornoya how much do you want for that part of antartica?
Pushka
21-02-2006, 21:50
Who owns Torres Strait Islands, and if noone then i claim them.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 21:50
So Bjornoya how much do you want for that part of antartica?

I don't know if my claim is legitimate yet.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 21:53
Who owns Torres Strait Islands, and if noone then i claim them.

Part of Queensland, Cottish
Pushka
21-02-2006, 21:56
Alright then. Who owns Tuvalu? And if no one the i claim them. Same goes for Tokelau and Tonga.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 21:58
Ok were are you pulling this unclaimed land from I need to find some.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 22:00
Wikipedia, i just did a search for Pacific Islands.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:03
Alright then. Who owns Tuvalu? And if no one the i claim them. Same goes for Tokelau and Tonga.

Torres I could forgive, but both Tonga and Tuvalu are on the front page.

Read the list
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 22:06
I claim if nobody owns these islands.

Falkland Islands
Bouvetoya
Tristan Da Cunha Group
St. Helena I
llha da Trindade
llhas Martin Vaz
Ascension I
Arquipelago de Fernando de Noronha
Penedos de sao pedro e sao paulo
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:08
All of those are on the front page to, claimed already.
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:10
I claim if nobody owns these islands.

Falkland Islands
Bouvetoya
Tristan Da Cunha Group
St. Helena I
llha da Trindade
llhas Martin Vaz
Ascension I
Arquipelago de Fernando de Noronha
Penedos de sao pedro e sao paulo

Just a tip, before claiming anything, use CTRL-F to search the claims post to see if anyone has it already.
Huahin
21-02-2006, 22:17
First of all, will all you big nations stop claiming tiny dots of land which we can use to encourage new members to join, especially when its not near your territory. Secondly, Pushka, if you want a decent RP without flaming, you'll have to be patient.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 22:18
Just a tip, before claiming anything, use CTRL-F to search the claims post to see if anyone has it already.

Thanks. nope nobody owns any of thoughs. I'd like them added them to my claims list please as well as Squornshelous' part of antartica (Which I've taken over.)
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:24
Thanks. nope nobody owns any of thoughs. I'd like them added them to my claims list please as well as Squornshelous' part of antartica (Which I've taken over.)

confirmed
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 22:29
confirmed

Thankyou very much Squornshelous.

Oh and I've found more islands:

Barbuda
Bonaire
Carriacou
Cayman Brac
Montserrat
Mustique
Nevis
St. Eustatius
St. Vincent
Terre-de-Haut

These are unclaimed by any nation in E2.
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:30
Squornshelous formally requests the help of any nation with a port in South America where one severely damaged Squornshelan destroyer can be repaired. The destroyer will shorlty be northbound from the Antarctic peninsula and will have some difficulty reaching the nearest Squornshelan shipyard, which is in Alaska.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:33
I'd offer Tristan da Cuhana for repairs but the islands have just been nuked. Bjornoyan Angola or Kangaroo Island would both be open to repair any wounded vessels.
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:35
Thankyou very much Squornshelous.

Oh and I've found more islands:

Barbuda
Bonaire
Carriacou
Cayman Brac
Montserrat
Mustique
Nevis
St. Eustatius
St. Vincent
Terre-de-Haut

These are unclaimed by any nation in E2.

All of those islands are in Carribean island chains controlled by Layarteb.
Cotland
21-02-2006, 22:37
Thankyou very much Squornshelous.

Oh and I've found more islands:

Barbuda
Bonaire
Carriacou
Cayman Brac
Montserrat
Mustique
Nevis
St. Eustatius
St. Vincent
Terre-de-Haut

These are unclaimed by any nation in E2.
Those are all island claimed by Layarteb. Do yourself a favor and check on Wikipedia which nation they belong to, then check who owns that nation on the front page. That'll spare us the need to correct you, and yourself the embarrasment of being corrected.
United States of Brink
21-02-2006, 22:38
Nuts. Id sure like to purchase land somewhere.

Is anyone, anyone at all offering land?
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:39
Thankyou very much Squornshelous.

Oh and I've found more islands:

Barbuda
Bonaire
Carriacou
Cayman Brac
Montserrat
Mustique
Nevis
St. Eustatius
St. Vincent
Terre-de-Haut

These are unclaimed by any nation in E2.

If they're part of an already claimed section then it has been claimed i.e. Bonaire is a part of the Netherlands which is already claimed by NG.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:41
Nuts. Id sure like to purchase land somewhere.

Is anyone, anyone at all offering land?

If nothing happens with this little war thing I have an idea for an RP that might leave you with some more territory.
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:42
I'd offer Tristan da Cuhana for repairs but the islands have just been nuked. Bjornoyan Angola or Kangaroo Island would both be open to repair any wounded vessels.


We greatly appreciate your offer, but it will probably not be feasable for the vessel in question to reach either of those ports. But once again, thank you for the offer.
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 22:44
Ok these islands I know noboys claimed because there off the coast of my Peninsula.

Smith Island
Livingston Island
Aitcho Islands
Robert Island
Nelson Island
King George Island
Penguin Island
Low Island
Trinity Island
Tower Island
Brabant Island
Arvers Island
Astrolabe Island
o Urville Island
Joincillie Island
Dundee Island
Paullet Island
Andersson Island
Vega Island
James Ross Island
Snow Hill Island
Robertson Island

Please add these to my claims list so nobody mistakenly claims them.
Huahin
21-02-2006, 22:45
Due to current situations (see War in South America thread), we have a large number of ships in the area, and once you give us your location, we will offer you immediate assistance.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 22:48
Torres I could forgive, but both Tonga and Tuvalu are on the front page.

Read the list

I did a word search, found none of them.
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:53
I did a word search, found none of them.

Kreynoria: American Samoa, Cook Islands, East Timor, French Polynesia, Hawaii (part), Jarvis Island, Kenya, Kingman Reef, Kiribati, Micronesia, Midway Islands, New Caledonia, Niue, Palmyra Atoll, Reunion Island, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Wallis and Futuna
Bjornoya
21-02-2006, 22:54
We greatly appreciate your offer, but it will probably not be feasable for the vessel in question to reach either of those ports. But once again, thank you for the offer.

Rome'll be on later tonight, sure he could hook you up with something in Chile.
Squornshelous
21-02-2006, 22:58
Due to current situations (see War in South America thread), we have a large number of ships in the area, and once you give us your location, we will offer you immediate assistance.

If you have any floating drydock support vessels, we would request that one of them rendezvous with our destroyer, the SNS Watchman which will be proceeding north at roughly 60 degrees west longitude, along with four other Squornshelan destroyers and one submarine. We also request that this rendezvous be made as far away form combat zones as possible.

OOC: Should we go ahead and RP this as a little sideplot in the War in South America Thread?
Pushka
21-02-2006, 22:59
Cotland there is your reponce to my responce to the statement about NG?

Huahin there is your responce to me in the War in South America thread?
Dweladelfia prime
21-02-2006, 23:07
Hirgizstan I am Interestid in buying your part of Antartica. How much do you want for it?
Cotland
21-02-2006, 23:09
Cotland there is your reponce to my responce to the statement about NG?

Huh? Where?
Huahin
21-02-2006, 23:18
I think he means where.

Squorn:Yes sounds good.
Pushka
21-02-2006, 23:19
In both this thread and the Angus Dei i responded to your statement about my mobilization.
United States of Brink
21-02-2006, 23:49
Yay Bjorn
Hawdawg
22-02-2006, 01:27
OOC:

I think everyone needs to respond to the Stock Crash. Whether or not you have invested in the market the bottom falling out will effect your economy and the funds you have available to wage war, pay pensions, etc. In a global economy we all are effected. No one is immune. It doesn't matter if you downsize your military, reduce government grants, reduce spending, etc. folks need to reflect some damage from the incident.

-Hawdawg
Bjornoya
22-02-2006, 01:34
Bjornoya will reflect its losses by releasing some of its Federal forces to be maintained by private organizations (Visara). Tax cuts in certain healthcare, welfare, and educational services will be assumed (but can't fix the NS numbers 'til I get the right bloody issues)
Varsola
22-02-2006, 01:35
Hirgizstan and myself have renegotiated our Africa deal for a fairer sum, which will remain undisclosed, and once he confirms the deal will be set.
RomeW
22-02-2006, 01:53
Yes it is!

Wait, if you played FFVII you should know what inspired my to make Visara, and who Wilhelm Kaufmann is.

....

Rome'll be on later tonight, sure he could hook you up with something in Chile.

You must be psychic- must be the philosophy. :D

As far as FFVII is concerned: I desperately want to play it but I can't find the game. I do know a bit of the story, and I've played but not yet finished Kingdom Hearts, hence the reason why I know of Cloud, Aeris, Squall and Yuffie.

(Speaking of FFVII, check your TG's)

Squornshelous: Depending on what part of South America is needed, we can offer you Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro or Santiago.

Huahin: We will not be selling Ellesmere Island at the present time. We are, however, interested in an economic and diplomatic pact between our nations.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 03:08
Dweladelf Capital of Dweladelfia Prime (Antartica)

A Boing 767 landed on a Military base airstrip. 3 F-99s Flew over head and Coast Gaurd Ice Breakers paraded off the coast along with 2 Eternal Storm Class Super Dreadnoughts. Out of the plane steped Emperor Vega. He walked down the ramp as the crowed cheered. He saluted the two gaurds at the bottom and walked up to the podiom.

"Today, is a bright day. The day we are A free nation!" Crowed began to cheer.
"Our imperium will strech out across the globe. Form sea to sea. All Peoples of the earth will bow before us!" He lifts up his hands bidding the crowed to cheer higher and higher. F-13s over head let out colored smoke. Red, White and Black the countrys colors. While Dreadnougts in the harbor set off fire works.

Thus the begining of the Imperium........
Bjornoya
22-02-2006, 03:15
You must be psychic- must be the philosophy. :D

As far as FFVII is concerned: I desperately want to play it but I can't find the game. I do know a bit of the story, and I've played but not yet finished Kingdom Hearts, hence the reason why I know of Cloud, Aeris, Squall and Yuffie.

(Speaking of FFVII, check your TG's)


Wow, that was a big-ass TG. Excellent idea though, I like it (they'll never know what hit them...)

lol, responded
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 03:27
The Emperor prepared for his radio address like any other day. He jotted down notes on a small piece of paper and began to look around him to make sure that nothing would interrupt him while he gave his address. Finally, it was time, and so, as usual, he depressed the record button on his computer, which allowed the microphone to recieve any sound, clearly, within a ten and a half foot radius. He sat a foot back and spoke.

"Ladies and gentlemen of the Empire. Times have changed have they not? The stock market crash has affected every nation in one way or another. The Empire saw a 20% fall in non-government regulated fields. Our defense industry has not been affected, I can thankfully say.

"The hardest hit was Manchurian Global but lest this not continue any decline. I have authorized a tax cut to allow for each and every citizen of the Empire to be prepared during this time.

"Let this not dissuade you. Our economy and the Empire still holds strong. The Shingrot still holds its value of $1.83. Our GDP is still in excess of $38,000 and unemployment holds at 2.86%.

"Many have advised me that our nuclear test may have been a major factor for this. I can assure the world that our test was just that, a test. We have not rallied the war troops nor are we currently getting involved in any crisis abroad. The Empire is currently at REDCON 4, our normal peacetime alert.

"Still, the hardest hit were our health sectors. Hospitals throughout the Empire are being given a small funding stipend to assist them. We keep funds aside for these situations and I am more than happy to release some 1% of our stored funds to help the hardest hit sector so that no citizen may go without adequate health needs should it be necessary.

"With that I will bid you all good night and tomorrow shall bring a better day."
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 03:48
Imperial Decree
Due to the recent stock market crash the Emperor has decided to make some momentary changes. However, we wish it to make it clear that the government has been affected only marginally due to our isolationist policies as of late and due to our nonexistent participation in the stock market. The following are the changes proposed by the Emperor:
1) Cutbacks to Administration and public transportation will be installed as soon as possible.
2) All funds devoted to Healthcare will be used to lessen government waste.
3) ADA (African Development Association) will now be given full control of the Healthcare system. This action will be supervised by government officials.
(OOC: For backround information the ADA was established by the previous Emperor, Alec Takenski, to improve and rebuild the impoverished African provinces. He is currently the head of this organization and uses his own personal funds to assist in the major projects.)
4) All currently active military units will remain in their state of mobilization. The rebels , though diminished, are still a threat.
5) Imports will be dropped by 600 billion in order to increase trade surplus even further. This act will only affect the rich, the normal Ninjanian citizen should feel no affect.

These five changes shall be installed by the end of the week. An economic summary will be reported again in one months time. That is all.

Emperor Jon Takenski
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 03:55
Ok these islands I know noboys claimed because there off the coast of my Peninsula.

Smith Island
Livingston Island
Aitcho Islands
Robert Island
Nelson Island
King George Island
Penguin Island
Low Island
Trinity Island
Tower Island
Brabant Island
Arvers Island
Astrolabe Island
o Urville Island
Joincillie Island
Dundee Island
Paullet Island
Andersson Island
Vega Island
James Ross Island
Snow Hill Island
Robertson Island

Please add these to my claims list so nobody mistakenly claims them.


Can these be added to my claims please as well as Squoornshelous' part of antartica.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:13
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Hyperbia: Decree 12. Please see decree for claiming rules.





Khaif [Post 10317]: N.Egypt transferred.
Khaif [Post 10318]: Lebanon transferred.
Cotland [Post 10323]: Land transferred.
Bjorn [Post 10344]: Thread added.
Bjorn [Post 10365]: Thread added.
Pushka [Post 10406]: Thread added.
Bjorn [Post 10407]: Hyperbia's last post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9606250&postcount=6446) was well in excess of 90 days ago so yes he is D12. Unfortunately you are at 2,427,400.17 square miles when you have to be under 2,000,000 so I can't give you the land and you have to reduce your own land to be underneath the maximum. So I have to freeze your future claims until you are underneath your maximum. Pantheaa is right in post #10417, I have to declare it D12 before you can claim it. I believe I posted a warning about doing that earlier in an update.
Pantheaa [Post 10417]: Quite right.
USB [Post 10422]: You won't find Zaire on the list because that isn't its name.
Pushka [Post 10429]: They are part of Queensland.
Pushka [Post 10432]: Are you even reading the claims list or are you just randomly naming islands?
Dweladelfia prime [Post 10436]: Wow another one who can't read the claims list.
DP [Post 10441]: Transferred.
DP [Post 10442]: Okay dude until you start looking at maps and the list I'm not giving you any more claims.
DP [Post 10451]: All those being the South Shetland Islands I can give those to you.
Hawdawg [Post 10463]: Yes by all means people please respond to the crash. Everyone was pretty much affected in some way, shape, or form.
Varsola [Post 10465]: And you are talking about?
DP [Post 10467]: Hate to rain on the parade but E2 excludes superdreds. If you register on the forums you can see a list of tech stuff.
Teh Ninjas [Post 10470]: How will that affect the Caribbean (i.e. trade imports)?
DP [Post 10471]: You only need to post a request once. When I get to the update I'll get to it. Patience is key here.
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 04:20
Affect in the Caribbean will be marginal. The deduction mostly goes with imports of luxury goods that aren't necessary for the common citizen.

Bjorn I could get some of that land off of your hands if you want. TG me if you're interested.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:20
Theres a forum?
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:20
Theres a forum?

My signature and the first post are probably the best places to look. Have you read the first post?
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:23
Ya I have. Since Bjorn cant claim it and I was gonna buy it from him anyways. can I claim it? Darn no SDs. Shoot...... Normal dreadnoughts are in right?
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:24
Ya I have. Since Bjorn cant claim it and I was gonna buy it from him anyways. can I claim it? Darn no SDs. Shoot...... Normal dreadnoughts are in right?

As long as the land doesn't put you over the land-population matrix level you are in then you can claim it. Normal dreads are just normal BBs so they are quite allowed.
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 04:31
Lay I registered again for the forum under a different email account. If you could confirm that one and delete the other one I'd appreciate it. Sorry for the hassle.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:32
Lay I registered again for the forum under a different email account. If you could confirm that one and delete the other one I'd appreciate it. Sorry for the hassle.

Not a problem.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:34
DP I deleted the second account you registered under and left Dweladelfia Prime as the active one.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:35
As long as the land doesn't put you over the land-population matrix level you are in then you can claim it. Normal dreads are just normal BBs so they are quite allowed.

It shouldnt be. All I have is that part of antartica and a couple small islands. I have 1.735 billion pop. So I guess i claim it.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:35
It shouldnt be. All I have is that part of antartica and a couple small islands. I have 1.735 billion pop. So I guess i claim it.

Okay you just have to do an RP post that when it's up.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:36
DP I deleted the second account you registered under and left Dweladelfia Prime as the active one.

Ya i tryed login in on the first one and it wouerldnt work so i made another one. Sorry. Lol then i remembered i have to activate.
Pushka
22-02-2006, 04:36
OOC:

I think everyone needs to respond to the Stock Crash. Whether or not you have invested in the market the bottom falling out will effect your economy and the funds you have available to wage war, pay pensions, etc. In a global economy we all are effected. No one is immune. It doesn't matter if you downsize your military, reduce government grants, reduce spending, etc. folks need to reflect some damage from the incident.

-Hawdawg

Don't need to, i haven't participated in the stockmarket and my economy is back at the pre-crush levels so i am good.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:37
Okay you just have to do an RP post that when it's up.

On this thread or the forum?
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:38
Ya i tryed login in on the first one and it wouerldnt work so i made another one. Sorry. Lol then i remembered i have to activate.

Yeha you have to wait for the authorization to come through e-mail like it says.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:39
On this thread or the forum?

You have to make an RP and post the link like the first post says.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:42
Offical Statement to the World

Seeing that the once greet nation of Hyperbia has fallen. We of Dweladelfia Prime Claim its lands. We thankyou for you time.

All Hail the Imperium

Imperium Council
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:42
You have to make an RP and post the link like the first post says.

oh ok ignore that last post then.
United States of Brink
22-02-2006, 04:45
About that Hyper claim, could you do me a slight favor and hold off a tidge.

I might maybe slightly kinda would like to have a go. Probably not, chances are very slim. But could you just maybe hold off. Less than a day i promise.
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:47
To late.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:49
http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Other/punisher-01.jpg

He's about to enter my RPs.
United States of Brink
22-02-2006, 04:50
Youd have to RP for it. Cant just "claim"

Chances are i wont bother. Just waiting for someones response.
Teh ninjas
22-02-2006, 04:53
http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Other/punisher-01.jpg

He's about to enter my RPs.

The Punisher?
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:53
Youd have to RP for it. Cant just "claim"

Chances are i wont bother. Just waiting for someones response.

I did Rp for it see New Land for a new power thread.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:54
You have to make an RP and post the link like the first post says.

DP you will learn how to read.
Ottoman Khaif
22-02-2006, 04:56
http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Other/punisher-01.jpg

He's about to enter my RPs.
YES, now all we need is Tony Montana and Buddy Jesus and everything will be compete...
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 04:58
Frank Castle is dead...
Dweladelfia prime
22-02-2006, 04:59
Linky to claim thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470106)

Lol sorry just excited.
Layarteb
22-02-2006, 05:01
Linky to claim thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470106)

Lol sorry just excited.

I really hope that isn't it.