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New signature for me.

WAIT!!!

Before I do this I would like to know

1) Who will create the presentation of my calculations and how (flash?)

2) Who is interested, this could be really intricate if I wanted it to be and if others want it to be, and may include more than just a single rank but various categories.

To everyone in E2:

Please respond to this if you want your nation graded/ranked. Be warned I will probably send you inquisitive questionaires if I really get into this, and you will have to work with me a bit. I will do this for anyone in E2 regardless of prior disputes, yes, even for you... Cymrea.

Again, simply state your interest, if not enough people are going to want the service or would be unwilling to answer questions from me I might as well not do it, but if there is enough support and demand I would be more than happy to.

Count me in

sure, why not, I state my interest.

I'm in.

I will do it Bjorn. I also have a neat excel spreadsheet that I track my naval expenses I could send you.

-Hawdawg

WAIT!!!

Before I do this I would like to know

1) Who will create the presentation of my calculations and how (flash?)

2) Who is interested, this could be really intricate if I wanted it to be and if others want it to be, and may include more than just a single rank but various categories.

To everyone in E2:

Please respond to this if you want your nation graded/ranked. Be warned I will probably send you inquisitive questionaires if I really get into this, and you will have to work with me a bit. I will do this for anyone in E2 regardless of prior disputes, yes, even for you... Cymrea.

Again, simply state your interest, if not enough people are going to want the service or would be unwilling to answer questions from me I might as well not do it, but if there is enough support and demand I would be more than happy to.


I'll join in too.

1. Huh?
2. I'm in.

Count Genetican in.

Count me in.

Pantheaa, I sent a TG to NG but he hasn't been on yet.

Is there an RP in progress to pick up Sakhalin Oblast?

I saw the first page said there was, but I can't find the link...

1. Huh?

Oh, did you say you were going to present it in spreadsheet last page? That will be good, so long as I don't have to make the presentation as I generally suck at them.

Pantheaa lands that are up for claim

Chuvashia Republic,
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Mordvinia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Tatar Republic
Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Belgorod Oblast
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast

I state my interest

And i claim all of these:-
Chuvashia Republic,
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Mordvinia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Tatar Republic
Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Belgorod Oblast
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast

Sorry invading forces aren't welcomed for claiming
doing that would be like giving the lands to Hirg

Count me in as well. And ill take a territory or two. I dont mind which ones if, that is, i can. One at random is fine.

Excellent, your just the guy I had in mind. I transfer these lands over to USB…

Chuvashia Republic,
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Mordvinia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Tatar Republic
Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Belgorod Oblast
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast

That leaves me with Yemen which will eventually fall to Spizania, and Kursk and Bryansk which i need a request by NG, which will probably also go to USB

Whoa, i dont wanna hog them all but ok. Thanks. Not sure how much i can claim with the land limit and all.

Good news, im taking the army aptitude test this summer. I have to start studying up on helicopters. If I pass and become eligible for Warrant Officer school and flight school then im dropping out of college. My recruiter said that I had a high enough score on my ASVAB, which surprise me cause I bombed that test. Being an 88M sucks and I really want to reclass!! Plus enlisted pay is not very good.

Anyways hopefully I’ll be flying blackhawks or Apaches a year from now.

Bjornoya sign me up for your ranking thing.

I'll take part in Bjornoya's rankings thingy as well.

Anyways these are the lands that are up for claiming

Kalmkyia oblast
Orenberg oblast
Samara oblast
Tambov oblast
Vorozneh oblast
I have these yeah?

I'm in.

^ Same.

I have these yeah?


affirmative

And you've got the shares. Pleasure doing business with you.

K, I got three pages of questions so far, it will require work on your guys' part to complete the survey (this is just the economic one I have right now).

I make two demands for this survey:

1) Do not cheat! Do not look at or ask your neighbors for what the 'correct' answers are. This is merely judging your nation's economic strength, and just because you have a powerful economy does not mean you're a horrible exploitative scum of a nation (or the best)

If I suspect or know of cheating points will be deducted...

2) Be honest. I've listed two sites you will need to use to fill out the survey, one is a simple NS calc, the other is a CIA website with natural resources (use ctrl-F to find regions where your nation exists i.e. Argentina, China etc.) Do not answer the questions like a businessman, do it as one of your nation's leaders or politicians (unless your businessmen are more powerful than your state heads)

Now, expect the survey up as a Microsoft Word doc by tonight (hope all of you can handle that format). Do not post your answers in public! Simply type the answers in the space given, and send it to one of my puppet e-mail accounts here: sedahtrand@hotmail.com where I will 'grade' responses in due time.

If you get stumped, be creative!

Count me in as well

Uhh do i still get those stock shares USB?

You can have the remainder of the Windheok Stock, you can post in the bise.

(Hint, its gonna go up!)

(use ctrl-F to find regions where your nation exists i.e. Argentina, China etc.)

I'm going to offer my help when it comes to geography. I don't mean to brag but I can place every country on the map and I'm pretty good with regions and capitals as well. I also suggest Wikipedia too- that can provide some more in-depth information regarding specific administrative regions (e.g., if you want to find out specifically about the province of the Democratic Republic of Congo that you own).

I'm going to offer my help when it comes to geography. I don't mean to brag but I can place every country on the map and I'm pretty good with regions and capitals as well. I also suggest Wikipedia too- that can provide some more in-depth information regarding specific administrative regions (e.g., if you want to find out specifically about the province of the Democratic Republic of Congo that you own).

Good idea, especially for those who own territories in places like Russia which are very split and different regions of the country have different resources.

Good idea, especially for those who own territories in places like Russia which are very split and different regions of the country have different resources.

I know Khatia-Manissa has the most oil of any region in Russia, so whomever owns it will have a huge payoff.

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com

ATTN: HUAHIN!

Let it be known that Kalmykia is considered a part of the Realm, occupied by loyal forces of the Royal Cottish Military (with all Panthean civilians already safely deported to Visara camps), that Kalmykia is filled with military hardware and continuing to be supplied from Chechnya via Spartan roads (I have permission to do so) and that any attempt of taking Kalmykia will be considered an invasion of the sovereign territory of the Realm and thus an act of war against the Realm.

(on a different note, the combat actions in the Cottish civil war is about to end and to be followed by terrorism...)

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com
Do I necessarily have to use the NS Calculators? I've RP'ed my economy- you can find the stats I use in my Factbook- and have largely discarded the Calculators, since I find them inaccurate. I also haven't answered my issues in months.

Remember, no asking around, not eachother and don't ask me. If you don't understand something, it's tough luck, best bet is to go exploring on the web. Just answer the question as best you can, or as one of your government figures would answer.

Do I necessarily have to use the NS Calculators? I've RP'ed my economy- you can find the stats I use in my Factbook- and have largely discarded the Calculators, since I find them inaccurate. I also haven't answered my issues in months.

Hmm, I recognized this issue, and know the NS calcs are well... horrible. However, for fairness please use them, but also know the numbers coming from them are much less influencial than most of the rest of the survey.

Similarly I'd stick with whatever economic rating NS spits at you, but as I've said that input is not as influencial as most of the rest of the survey. If you really want you can put two answer down, what NS spits out and what you calculate.

EDIT: Wait.. I wasn't suppose to do that!

ATTN: HUAHIN!

If Huahin doesn't get Kalmkyia...then im not giving away the rest of my territory.

Pantheaa lands that are up for claim

Chuvashia Republic,
North Ossetia-Alania Republic
Mordvinia Republic,
Ulyanovsk Oblast
Tatar Republic
Adygea Republic
Bashkortostan Republic
Belgorod Oblast
Chuvashia Republic
Ulyanovsk Oblast

FYI since you are trying this again, giving away land won't invalidate RPs and since the land is in contestation, the outcome of the RP will determine who actually has the land.

If Huahin doesn't get Kalmkyia...then im not giving away the rest of my territory.
Then I shall remove you from the face of this Earth to the best of my ability, even if I need to break out the VX gas and all that other nasty stuff too. You're just being a pain in the ass. Go f*** yourself.

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com

Do you want me to put this into a HTML form or do you want to just do it this way? Let me know if that would make it easier and I'll have it up for you in a jiffy. I'm on AIM tonight so.

Ok but NG doesn't have an ORBATS which means i don't either...i'll just keep pulling them out of my ass like NG. Bomb my people...i'll have 400000000 tanks up to Kursk in no time

FYI since you are trying this again, giving away land won't invalidate RPs and since the land is in contestation, the outcome of the RP will determine who actually has the land.


Hirg stated that i could transfer them out, look at the EOL forum.

And are you saying that the whoever i hand over Kalmkyia too has to RP it, or is that for all my land

Hmmm isn't telling someone to go f themselves a violation of NS rules...mod please

Ok but NG doesn't have an ORBATS which means i don't either...i'll just keep pulling them out of my ass like NG. Bomb my people...i'll have 400000000 tanks up to Kursk in no time
And I'll call the mods on you for godmodding. Now, go f*** yourself.

And I'll call the mods on you for godmodding. Now, go f*** yourself.

I've had a crappy day in a crappy week and you're doing your best to make this fucking day end just as bad as it was. I am not in the mood. If you're going to say anything else, then just go get to fly a Black Hawk, go to Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran of where the fuck else, get shot down and die. You'll do us all a favor. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll try to get some sleep. Oh, and if you didn't get it the last time, go f*** yourself Panth. I'm sick of you.

And just think...it could all be over with a few simple words. All you have to do is get out of Kalmkyia.

And just think...it could all be over with a few simple words. All you have to do is get out of Kalmkyia.
Never going to happen. Now shut up.

Never going to happen. Now shut up.

Well then im not leaving. Stupid Eunuch tricks are for Pantheaa

Do you want me to put this into a HTML form or do you want to just do it this way? Let me know if that would make it easier and I'll have it up for you in a jiffy. I'm on AIM tonight so.

If it will make calculations easier, but since many of the questions aren't in number format not sure.
As soon as I get the numbers and e-mails from all who wanted to participate I can start sending you more info.

What is this ranking thing over? Link me to the post, anywho I'm in I just wanna read it.

Pantheaa, I'm still confused why your nation would hate mine still.

Because...I havn't done anything to you ICly but OOCly we have argued a lot...0o

1 or 2 pages back man, link and an e-mail to send to when you're done.

Yeah i read Bjor's on the value of human resources post and thought that it meant he was going to take everyone from my land and put them in Japan.

It ends up that he was just going to transport people that don't contribute to society like sick people, old farts, retarded people, Cotland, etc

So my point is, just ignore the entire we hate Japan stuff

If it will make calculations easier, but since many of the questions aren't in number format not sure.
As soon as I get the numbers and e-mails from all who wanted to participate I can start sending you more info.

Yeah honestly a form probably wouldn't work for input. Yeah might as well stick with the DOC.

Yeah i read Bjor's on the value of human resources post and thought that it meant he was going to take everyone from my land and put them in Japan.

It ends up that he was just going to transport people that don't contribute to society like sick people, old farts, retarded people, Cotland, etc

Jesus, where did you learn your insults...

Why would I move Pantheaans to Japan? No-one knows Visara's true intentions.

Guys, please do the questionaire.

Jesus, where did you learn your insults...

Why would I move Pantheaans to Japan? No-one knows Visara's true intentions.

Speaking of Jesus. The Passion is on. Ma talk about remembering religion class from 9th and 10th grades.

Speaking of Jesus. The Passion is on. Ma talk about remembering religion class from 9th and 10th grades.

Is English your first language?

Is English your first language?

It is, why?

Thanks to everyone who has filled out the survey and sent it to me, they have been graded. I remind you, if you do not know an answer just be creative and put down what you think one of your top government officials would say to the issue.

Religion < Not so much a fan. To much hate created over such a word. I like the saying "my mind is my church".

Religion < Not so much a fan. To much hate created over such a word. I like the saying "my mind is my church".

I agree. I am agnostic but I do have to say that I do like this movie. It really is to the point and to the scriptures. I have to say that it is extremely well done and Jim Cavezel is a great actor. Currently watching Empire Records though :).

Cool, got replies from Lay, Cot, OK, USB, and myself so far, so if you sent it and you're names not here, your e-mail failed.

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com


Just in case.

Man tonight has been a night of great movies. The Passion, Empire Records, and American History X (to finish it all off). I think I'm rocking Harry Potter 4 tomorrow.

If you're not watching the NHL Playoffs, you're missing out. It's been a while since the games have been this good.

*removed*

Hmm, I recognized this issue, and know the NS calcs are well... horrible. However, for fairness please use them, but also know the numbers coming from them are much less influencial than most of the rest of the survey.

Similarly I'd stick with whatever economic rating NS spits at you, but as I've said that input is not as influencial as most of the rest of the survey. If you really want you can put two answer down, what NS spits out and what you calculate.

EDIT: Wait.. I wasn't suppose to do that!

I suppose if you're using the NS Calculators I'm out. They're not good enough to be used.

*sigh* if it really means that much send me your personalized stuff, but don't blame me if the results end up scewed. As is the three or so questions involving NS numbers account for less than 5% of the total results.

*sigh* if it really means that much send me your personalized stuff, but don't blame me if the results end up scewed. As is the three or so questions involving NS numbers account for less than 5% of the total results.
Sorry, I don't mean to be a pain, but I worked hard for it. This is what I came up with using my (main) NS territories (as in non-Earth II):

http://www.geocities.com/vicendum/vicendumspotlightrome.html#EconomicOverview

I may need to tweak the stats a little and expand to include the categories you've listed (such as "Law & Order"), but those are the stats I use.

Okey dokey, just fill out the survey and send it to that address whenever you're finished.

Okey dokey, just fill out the survey and send it to that address whenever you're finished.

Thanks. All right, will do.

ATTENTION:

BJORN.

I sent you a TG with both my email addresses. For some reason I didn't recieve the questionare. Please resend to one of the email's I sent via TG. If by some reason it continues to return it undeliverable, I will catch you on AIM and we can do a file transfer.

-Hawdawg

Official Press Release

At 0520 local time, former Lieutenant Colonel Victor Hube of the Royal Cottish Army, the leader of the attack against Oslo almost two weeks ago was executed by firing squad at Akershus fortress after having been found guilty of High Treason against the Realm in a military court martial. The evidences against Hube were overwhelming, and he was found guilty after twenty minutes of deliberation. The Supreme Court approved of the execution in an extraordinary assembly last night with a vote of 15-2 in favor of the execution.

Official Press Release

At 0520 local time, former Lieutenant Colonel Victor Hube of the Royal Cottish Army, the leader of the attack against Oslo almost two weeks ago was executed by firing squad at Akershus fortress after having been found guilty of High Treason against the Realm in a military court martial. The evidences against Hube were overwhelming, and he was found guilty after twenty minutes of deliberation. The Supreme Court approved of the execution in an extraordinary assembly last night with a vote of 15-2 in favor of the execution.

So is your rebellion over?

ATTENTION:

BJORN.

I sent you a TG with both my email addresses. For some reason I didn't recieve the questionare. Please resend to one of the email's I sent via TG. If by some reason it continues to return it undeliverable, I will catch you on AIM and we can do a file transfer.

-Hawdawg

You can download it.

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

So is your rebellion over?
Soon. But the reign of terrorism has just started...

Soon. But the reign of terrorism has just started...

are you going French Revolutionish?

I just got Mari and Squorn's survey replies, and they've been graded. Keep 'em comin'

EDIT: BTW, if that's your real name Otto, it kicks ass.

Very, very, very cool.

When do grades come out?

When I get everyone's survey, some of the calculations are based on a curve that will need to be constructed only when everyone who is participating has sent the survey in.

When I get everyone's survey, some of the calculations are based on a curve that will need to be constructed only when everyone who is participating has sent the survey in.

Awesome. I might be able to recreate the formula in Excell, which once set, does all the math for you :).

Awesome. I might be able to recreate the formula in Excell, which once set, does all the math for you :).

It would be tough, here's one example:

For the % GDP spent on Law and Order I was going to make a bell-curve, but instead of having the peak be the average of our nations' expenditures it would be the average of a handful of economically admirable RL nations' % GDP expenditure on Law and Order averaged with E2 nations GDP% expenditures on Law and Order. Further, the highest points would not be given to the extremes, obviously, but to those near the average which would be a combination of NS Law and Order expenditure stats and RL Law and Order expenditure stats.

My replies coming Bjorn, it's coming reeeal soon. It's surprisingly annoying being in the UK and playing this game. I log on, and everyone in the USA has posted about 5 pages of messages.

Lay: Me and Hirgizstan did a land trade: he gets Sierra Leone and I get Brunei.

OK: I confirmed the russia/bulgaria deal, it just got buried. Is the deal still on?

Yeah you are right I don't think it can do stuff that advanced but who knows.

OK: I confirmed the russia/bulgaria deal, it just got buried. Is the deal still on?

Yes the deal is still on.

I'll update tonight.

My replies coming Bjorn, it's coming reeeal soon. It's surprisingly annoying being in the UK and playing this game. I log on, and everyone in the USA has posted about 5 pages of messages.

Welcome to my world.......

I log on, and everyone in the USA has posted about 5 pages of messages.

Don't worry, generally not worth reading.

Construction of the Freedom Tower began today and will be completed in 2010 at 1,776 feet. I would just like to say that not only is this going to be the ugliest thing in Manhattan it is also going to probably be one of the best things for NYC in the longest. The memorial better be fucking good and by that I mean good!

Sent back the survey Bjorn.


-Hawdawg

EDIT: NVM, recieved

Sent back the survey Bjorn.


-Hawdawg

Graded, keep 'em coming, need everyone's before I can finalize.

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Official Ranking Query: The post can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844536&postcount=12783).





Pys/Huahin [Post 12547]: Kuril(e) Islands worked out and put onto the maps and spreadsheet.
Hirgizstan [Post 12606]: Crete transferred.
Hirg/NR [Post 12703]: Land transferred.
OK/NR [Post 12835]: Land transferred.






Post 12467 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10760388&postcount=12467): I need TLS & Yerffej to come to an agreement on this issue.
Post 12333 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10740878&postcount=12333): I still need Yerffej to confirm his land.
Pantheaa Situation: When everything is settled and all parties post their agreement and what not, I will update the claims for those lands that are in contestation (i.e. all the ones involved). As posted here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844725&postcount=12789).




Last Update: Page 836
Current Update: Page 857

I might try to put all of our excell data into access for a database. Perhaps it'll do automatic rankings based on land size, population, etc.

Pushka wants to know how everyone is doing on the EOL forum

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Official Ranking Query: The post can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844536&postcount=12783).





Pys/Huahin [Post 12547]: Kuril(e) Islands worked out and put onto the maps and spreadsheet.
Hirgizstan [Post 12606]: Crete transferred.
Hirg/NR [Post 12703]: Land transferred.
OK/NR [Post 12835]: Land transferred.






Post 12467 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10760388&postcount=12467): I need TLS & Yerffej to come to an agreement on this issue.
Post 12333 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10740878&postcount=12333): I still need Yerffej to confirm his land.
Pantheaa Situation: When everything is settled and all parties post their agreement and what not, I will update the claims for those lands that are in contestation (i.e. all the ones involved). As posted here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844725&postcount=12789).




Last Update: Page 836
Current Update: Page 857


Well that will be like never heppen. Becuz

1) im not giving my land to TOA and their bitches
2) Cotland u know who im talking about needs to leave my land at once
3) Operation Dummasses is never going to end cause NG lacks an ORBAT which means im going to pull troops out of my ass as well

Pushka wants to know how everyone is doing on the EOL forum
A lot better without him present.

Well that will be like never heppen. Becuz

1) im not giving my land to TOA and their bitches
2) Eurotrash..u know who im talking about needs to leave my land at once
3) Operation Dummasses is never going to end cause NG lacks an ORBAT which means im going to pull troops out of my ass as well

Do not re-ignite old flame wars on this thread. You don't have to give it to them. The nature of the RP will determine who gets what, just like the past D12 ones went.

I resent being referred to as "Eurotrash" and demand you remove it immediately, unless you want me to take legal action to get it removed (read: the mods).

I have replied to the survey.

I resent being referred to as "Eurotrash" and demand you remove it immediately, unless you want me to take legal action to get it removed (read: the mods).

OHHH AND you don't think i resent being told to go die! You don't know the kind of stress and pressure i can through as a reservist. Yet you had the fucking balls to tell me to go and die. Its been edited but i not because i don't think you are trash.

And up till that little go to Iraq and die post i was thinking about changing my mind and giving you Kalmkyia but now the deal is off

2) Cotland u know who im talking about needs to leave my land at once

First of all, thank you for removing the flaming...




...but my answer is still never. I shall remove myself from Kalmykia only after you have removed yourself from Earth II, whether it be voluntarily or via ejection/deletion.

Eurotrash vs. 3 posts of 'go fuck yourself and die.' I think I know who is flaming.

Kreynoria']Eurotrash vs. 3 posts of 'go fuck yourself and die.' I think I know who is flaming.

They both are.

Very well. Most if not all of those posts were written yesterday when I was pretty down anyways, so I appologize if anyone was offended by my posts which are described as flaming (it seemed like the right thing to write at the time).

Kreynoria']I have replied to the survey.

WAIT! Krey you gotta resend it, and if you could can you send it as an attachment please? I got most of it, but half-way through you started answering yes and no questions with the letter 'Â,' which I think is scripting error somewhere or something.

Maybe he is canadian.

Maybe he is canadian.

LOL, that's funny

15 minutes until....

What.. the oc, and you thought NJ was a different dimension.

What.. the oc, and you thought NJ was a different dimension.

The show is uber.

Cot let me know when the rebellion is 100% over so I can go back to REDCON 4.

It's time...

Volcheck just got pwned!

Man I am watching the news. They're going to propose a law in NY that would keep violent sex offenders in custody after they do their sentence. My response, "It's about time!" However, what does the NY Civil Liberties Union say about this? "Sex offenders are people too. They should be left alone after they serve their time." So I continue to say this. Liberalism works only to make safety a tertiary objective and will ensure that you and your family are not safe at all. I suggest everyone with children, especially girls, make sure that should any "sex offender" attempt anything, you please silence their lives with a baseball bat and bury them in the Hudson River. O'Reilly said, after Katrina, that the government cannot protect you and that it is up to you to protect yourself. I agree with him. With the way things are going people, PROTECT YOURSELF!

Watching the news is sickening sometimes but it enlightens you to show you just how retarded those people are that claim they are out to "protect" you.

Indiscriminant tolerance is... unhealthy. It is unnatural. As a nation we must learn again to be intolerant, especially of such people.

Indiscriminant tolerance is... unhealthy.

I am deadly serious about this garbage too. The groups that claim to stand up for our rights and for our liberties and claim that the government isn't out to help us are worse. They're out to make sure that I'm less safe than someone in Baghdad.

People with such fears of governmental overinvolvement are either extremely self-centered or paranoid; they think the government would waste valuable capital watching... them. Maybe deep down they want it, why else would they think about the subject? Either way they should not be listened to. I rarely if never feel like the government is watching me, and I am slightly concerned at their underinvolvement rather than over.

And yes, if you check out a book on how to produce mustard gas we have every right to be suspicious of you.

People with such fears of governmental overinvolvement are either extremely self-centered or paranoid; they think the government would waste valuable capital watching... them. Maybe deep down they want it, why else would they think about the subject? Either way they should not be listened to. I rarely if never feel like the government is watching me, and I am slightly concerned at their underinvolvement rather than over.

And yes, if you check out a book on how to produce mustard gas we have every right to be suspicious of you.

Precisely. Liberalism is a virus and we're the host.

Watching the news is sickening sometimes but it enlightens you to show you just how retarded those people are that claim they are out to "protect" you.

Not *all* sex offenders, murderers, etc. are the "sick scumbags" portrayed by Hollywood with no hope of revival. Some of these people DO want to get on with their lives and change their deviant ways- and why should they be prevented from doing so? What they did was sick- no doubt about that- but if there's a willingness to reform then that should be allowed. We've all done things we regret and these people are no different. If some don't show a willingness to reform then of course they should be locked up, but if they do we should help them. This whole "vigilante justice" thing sickens me, as it's just one more step to a polarized society and we shouldn't want that.

Not *all* sex offenders, murderers, etc. are the "sick scumbags" portrayed by Hollywood with no hope of revival. Some of these people DO want to get on with their lives and change their deviant ways- and why should they be prevented from doing so? What they did was sick- no doubt about that- but if there's a willingness to reform then that should be allowed. We've all done things we regret and these people are no different. If some don't show a willingness to reform then of course they should be locked up, but if they do we should help them. This whole "vigilante justice" thing sickens me, as it's just one more step to a polarized society and we shouldn't want that.


If they wanted to reform they should have gone to a psychiatrist before commiting such a crime. The state, nay humanity simply does not have the resources or energy to spare on recreating such people. It is regrettable they were formed in the first place, and we should view their destruction with heavy hearts angered by the knowledge that our society was not allowed to be strong enough to guide them in the right direction. More emphasis should be placed on not creating such people in the first place, but since we are 'open' we will allow any ideas/thoughts to cultivate/infect us in the name of 'freedom' and 'tolerance.' Openness...

If they wanted to reform they should have gone to a psychiatrist before commiting such a crime. The state, nay humanity simply does not have the resources or energy to spare on recreating such people. It is regrettable they were formed in the first place, and we should view their destruction with heavy hearts angered by the knowledge that our society was not allowed to be strong enough to guide them in the right direction. More emphasis should be placed on not creating such people in the first place, but since we are 'open' we will allow any ideas/thoughts to cultivate/infect us in the name of 'freedom' and 'tolerance.' Openness...

I'll agree that society shouldn't want to *create* sex offenders, but I'm drawing the line at "shooting them all". I don't think you're seeing the possibility that some of these people DO regret what they've done and want help- yes it's late but at least they want it. Some of these people may not have realized the severity of what they've done until something big like going to jail happens- it's like the compulsive heavy drinker who doesn't realize excessive drinking is bad until they almost get into an accident and/or have liver damage. If they're willing to be adults, take responsibility for what they've done- i.e., "doing their time"- and thus work to make themselves better then they should be given the chance. Not all criminals are "evil people at heart"- some of these people are good-natured people who just did something stupid, and if they're willing to repair themselves I'm not going to stop them. In fact, I think it's honourable if someone works to make themselves better- that shows that they've accepted what they've done is wrong and don't wish to repeat it again.

Now, if deterence is a problem then maybe the sentences need to be tougher, but we can't *just* do that. Education is key, and being able to recognize a potential offender *before* the crime (so they can be helped) is key. We can't be narrow-minded in our approach to crime if we're actually going to be able to solve anything.

I'll agree that society shouldn't want to *create* sex offenders, but I'm drawing the line at "shooting them all". I don't think you're seeing the possibility that some of these people DO regret what they've done and want help- yes it's late but at least they want it. Some of these people may not have realized the severity of what they've done until something big like going to jail happens- it's like the compulsive heavy drinker who doesn't realize excessive drinking is bad until they almost get into an accident and/or have liver damage. If they're willing to be adults, take responsibility for what they've done- i.e., "doing their time"- and thus work to make themselves better then they should be given the chance. Not all criminals are "evil people at heart"- some of these people are good-natured people who just did something stupid, and if they're willing to repair themselves I'm not going to stop them. In fact, I think it's honourable if someone works to make themselves better- that shows that they've accepted what they've done is wrong and don't wish to repeat it again.

Now, if deterence is a problem then maybe the sentences need to be tougher, but we can't *just* do that. Education is key, and being able to recognize a potential offender *before* the crime (so they can be helped) is key. We can't be narrow-minded in our approach to crime if we're actually going to be able to solve anything.


Ahhh, to make better. If a criminal were 'reformed' into a 'good person' and knew they committed such a crime, they could not live with themselves in good conscience. The honorable and moral choice is death. A good person could not become a decent member of society if they were fully aware of not merely the legal but moral repercussions for commiting such a crime. Taking responsibilty would be taking their sentence with grace, any other solution is pampering. We give 'second chances' 'redos' and 'restarts' to children and games, but matters of life and death or dehumanization require much more. Such is justice.

Ahhh, to make better. If a criminal were 'reformed' into a 'good person' and knew they committed such a crime, they could not live with themselves in good conscience. The honorable and moral choice is death. A good person could not become a decent member of society if they were fully aware of not merely the legal but moral repercussions for commiting such a crime. Taking responsibilty would be taking their sentence with grace, any other solution is pampering. We give 'second chances' 'redos' and 'restarts' to children and games, but matters of life and death or dehumanization require much more. Such is justice.

Life isn't about absolutes- it's filled with lots of gray. No one is "perfectly good" or "perfectly bad"- if people were like that, then we wouldn't have to worry about needing a justice system at all- we'd just take out the bad ones and leave the good ones. It doesn't happen that way. The purpose of the justice system is to prevent crimes from happening and to ensure that criminals don't recommit. This isn't about "pampering"- this is about realizing that some people do deserve a second chance but, at the same time, must still realize what they did was wrong.

Besides, why can't a 60-year-old turn themselves around? People have changed themselves even when they're adults, and sex offenders are no different. You can't tell me that you know that *all* sex offenders don't have the slightest regret for what they've done and would like a second chance. Might be a little late in wanting one but at least they do. Might be a heavy burden to live with but some people can do it, and some can turn themselves around that easily. Don't get me wrong- repeat offenders and psychopaths need to be locked up for good, since they've got no chance. It's the others who may have indeed reformed who shouldn't "be shot".

About a month ago I had my spring-break.

My neighbors are Canadian, originally from Jasper, Alberta and the mother's parents came down for a visit. Anyhow, after they left my neighbor told my mother and me this story:

Kathy's parents usually goes around to help with distributing census forms, and can get about $15/house. As such they go to as many houses as they can, but before doing their job they were warned at the government office not to go to a certain. Maybe fifty miles from Jasper there's a small community, not very large and I can't recall the name at the moment, but it does not matter. The reason why they were warned not to go to the neighborhood was this:
The community is basically a group of ex-convicts. They are generally very friendly to one another, get along fine and crime amongst themselves is generally not an issue because they all know the tricks.
In any case, apparently a few years ago some Canadian kids went about causing a general rucus as I've heard many Canadian kids do when they get bored, going out at night, TPing, egging, what have you. One of the inhabitants of this ex-con neighborhood ended getting really pissed off. So what did s/he do? S/he went out and took a few shots to get them away. Ended up shooting and killing a 14 year old girl.
The cops went to investigate, but being the type of community it was the neighbors simply covered for one another, confusing the police and thwarting the police efforts. In the end no-one was convicted, and the investigation discontinued.
The scariest part was she was able to tell the story laughing at the convict's deception.

If given the choice of the death of that entire neighborhood or the death of that 14 year old, I will always choose the destruction of those ex-cons.
In crude nature it is that the weak should perish and the strong survive, we humans have redefined nature. However, this should not mean we remove the negating aspect of nature to our justice; instead it should be that the best people live and the worst are destroyed and not allowed to propogate. If we are weak of heart and allow them to persist they will find themselves and multiply, and the injustice continues. This is the type of tolerance that will end up killing us. I don't know why that word has such high regard in the political sphere, in biology it has a very negative connotation.
Again, the irony of this is that those ex-cons were 'reformed' and created a sustainable, civil society for themselves. I say it was not worth it.
Life may not be entirelly shades of grey, but we must have the strength to enforce our values on it, to make it visible if we are going to survive not merely as a mere species, but as a good people.

About a month ago I had my spring-break.

My neighbors are Canadian, originally from Jasper, Alberta and the mother's parents came down for a visit. Anyhow, after they left my neighbor told my mother and me this story:

Kathy's parents usually goes around to help with distributing census forms, and can get about $15/house. As such they go to as many houses as they can, but before doing their job they were warned at the government office not to go to a certain. Maybe fifty miles from Jasper there's a small community, not very large and I can't recall the name at the moment, but it does not matter. The reason why they were warned not to go to the neighborhood was this:
The community is basically a group of ex-convicts. They are generally very friendly to one another, get along fine and crime amongst themselves is generally not an issue because they all know the tricks.
In any case, apparently a few years ago some Canadian kids went about causing a general rucus as I've heard many Canadian kids do when they get bored, going out at night, TPing, egging, what have you. One of the inhabitants of this ex-con neighborhood ended getting really pissed off. So what did s/he do? S/he went out and took a few shots to get them away. Ended up shooting and killing a 14 year old girl.
The cops went to investigate, but being the type of community it was the neighbors simply covered for one another, confusing the police and thwarting the police efforts. In the end no-one was convicted, and the investigation cancelled.
The scariest part was she was able to tell the story laughing at the convict's deception.

If given the choice of the death of that entire neighborhood or the death of that 14 year old, I will always choose the destruction of those ex-cons.
In crude nature it is that the weak should perish and the strong survive, we humans have redefined nature. However, this should not mean we remove the negating aspect of nature to our justice; instead it should be that the best people live and the worst are destroyed and not allowed to propogate. If we are weak of heart and allow them to persist they will find themselves and multiply, and the injustice continues. This is the type of tolerance that will end up killing us. I don't know why that word has such high regard in the political sphere, in biology it has a very negative connotation.
Again, the irony of this is that those ex-cons were 'reformed' and created a sustainable, civil society for themselves. I say it was not worth it.
Life may not be entirelly shades of grey, but we must have the strength to enforce our values on it, to make it visible if we are going to survive.

No. 1, that's anecdotal. One experience doesn't translate to everyone.
No. 2, can you link me? Being Canadian I have never heard of this story.

I need to head to bed.

The show is uber.


.....and you say I should hang my head in shame for watching anime.....

I guess we all have our dirty guilty pleasures.

I am not against capital punishment for rapists and child molestors. I think that is how it should be best handled, like we do in the Empire!

Indeed those convicts being the weak should have been destroyed by the strong, i.e. law abiding people. But in the animal kingdom the strong always win right? Wrong. Society gets in the way.

But even in the animal kingdom things sometimes get weird. I watched today as my neighbours tom-cat mauled a pigeon half to death and then the cat kept the pigeon prisoner. The pigeon couldn't fly, I think its wings were broken, and every time it moved the cat pounced, but only playfully, and the pigeon was still alive, even after the cat had mauled it several times and had sat on it more than once. This pigeon waited until the cat wasn't looking and then tried its darndest to shuffle away, but to no avail. Now, ordinarily I would have been on the cat's side, as pigeons are vermin, but that damm pigeon had some balls and bravado for surviving as long as it dead. So I asked myself, which one was the stronger? The cat, obviously dumb, thought the pigeon was some sort of amusement and having strength and agility over and injured pigeon the cat was supposedly king, but the damm pigeon just wouldn't yield. Society can be like that sometimes.

I never saw what happend to the pigeon, I assume my neighbour found the cat and the pigeon and probably killed the pigeon or threw it out into the alley. But I, being the human, in the same position, would be the arbiter, and in that case I'd have wanted the pigeon to get away, it deserved it, but failing that I'd have stuck a knife in it, coz the stupid cat didn't understand that you need to kill your prey quickly and savagely, unless there is some providence to be gained from not doing so, and in this case there was not.

In my philosophy I talk alot about man's animal nature that a legitimate society must curb. Unfortunately these animalistic tendencies can never be fully removed in certain people and they must be removed from the society in order to make sure that the rest can life safely.

LOL. We have 135,000 views. I never thought that I would see any even number on that counter.

.....and you say I should hang my head in shame for watching anime.....

I guess we all have our dirty guilty pleasures.

Yes
We
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:)

The cat has his predators as well.

Indeed.

Speaking of that. Decayed just took on a whole different angle.

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com

Waiting for responses from Huahin, Genetican, Rome, and Neuvo Rica...

Speaking of that. Decayed just took on a whole different angle.

Bear in mind also that Decayed isn't E2 only. So you might see some things you wouldn't find in E2.

Waiting for responses from Huahin, Genetican, Rome, and Neuvo Rica...


Are there going to be other surveys too?

Kreynoria']Are there going to be other surveys too?

I'd love to make at least two more, one on pure military strength and another on the 'quality of life' in our nations. I couldn't make a good survey for military though, but if someone made it and gave me a general answer key I'd be happy to grade them.

Kreynoria']Are there going to be other surveys too?

At the moment, no, unless you have ideas?

I'd love to make at least two more, one on pure military strength and another on the 'quality of life' in our nations. I couldn't make a good survey for military though, but if someone made it and gave me a general answer key I'd be happy to grade them.

I stand corrected.

I am retiring my fleet of F-29A Vulture aircraft for adoption of the F-35 Raven instead. If anyone is interested I am selling 248 aircraft at $100 million each.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Air/f29.htm

Good news and bad news.

Good news - my SGPT level went to normal levels. Still somewhat high though.

Bad news - my viral load almost doubled to 6.0*10^6.

Doctor just told me that some crazy fluctuations in my counts are to be expected though. Also prescribed a new, very low-fat diet to reduce stress on my liver.

Yikes. You got this from a restaurant?

Yikes. You got this from a restaurant?
Not really. The doctor said I'd have my Hep C viral count swing hugely anyways, but as long as it remains under 10*10^6, I'm good.

No I mean how you got HepC in the first place? Was it a restaurant or a bad transfusion or something in that realm?

No I mean how you got HepC in the first place? Was it a restaurant or a bad transfusion or something in that realm?
The latter; I got it when I was a toddler and had to get a blood transfusion during an operation (I caught pneumonia or something) in Beijing.

Good news and bad news.

Good news - my SGPT level went to normal levels. Still somewhat high though.

Bad news - my viral load almost doubled to 6.0*10^6.

Doctor just told me that some crazy fluctuations in my counts are to be expected though. Also prescribed a new, very low-fat diet to reduce stress on my liver.

Take my survey, it will make you feel better.

If it doesn't I'll give you a full refund.

The latter; I got it when I was a toddler and had to get a blood transfusion during an operation (I caught pneumonia or something) in Beijing.

That's right you told us that, I forgot. Ach! Third World hospitals.

I found one of the conversations that formed the basis of my political thought (and online writing style), ironically enough the dialogue was from a videogame rather than a philosophy book. I was going to put this in General, but realized that it would either be too complicated for them, or if they understood would realize its a 'flamebait' for each and every one of them. I put it here as it has a direct connection to what we've been discussing.

The dialogue is between a secret agent working for the American Government named Raiden/Jack who has just discovered the man who he has been taking orders from, “Colonel” is an A.I. created by a mysterious group of individuals known as the Patriots who actually control or attempt to control the entire American political process from election results to the very issues Americans discuss. Further, Raiden discovers his girlfriend Rose was nothing more than an employee used by the Patriots for their own ends. The dialogue begins with Raiden stumbling upon this information the Colonel’s confession through an electronic communication device called a CODEX:

Mind you, I don't believe in such things or even that the scenario is possible. The presentation as a conspiracy theory automatically debases it, but the underlying values, forms, and ideas could be or already are very real.

[The Colonel's face becomes a skull. It flashes back. This happens several times.]

Colonel: To begin with -- we're not what you'd call -- human. Over the
past two hundred years -- A kind of consciousness formed layer by layer in the crucible of the White House. It's not unlike the way life started in the oceans four billion years ago. The White House was our primordial soup, a base of evolution -- We are formless. We are the very discipline and morality that Americans invoke so often. How can anyone hope to eliminate us? As long as this nation exists, so will we.

Raiden: Cut the crap! If you're immortal, why would you take away individual freedoms and censor the Net?

Rose: Jack, don't be silly.

Colonel: Don't you know that our plans have your interests -- not ours -- in mind?

Raiden: What?

Rose: Jack, listen carefully like a good boy!

Colonel: The mapping of the human genome was completed early this century. As a result, the evolutionary log of the human race lay open to us.

Rose: We started with genetic engineering, and in the end, we succeeded in digitizing life itself.

Colonel: But there are things not covered by genetic information.

Raiden: What do you mean?

Colonel: Human memories, ideas. Culture. History.

Rose: Genes don't contain any record of human history.

Colonel: Is it something that should not be passed on? Should that information be left at the mercy of nature?

Rose: We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures, symbols... from tablets to books...

Colonel: But not all the information was inherited by later generations. A small percentage of the whole was selected and processed, then passed on. Not unlike genes, really.

Rose: That's what history is, Jack.

Colonel: But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible.

Rose: Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander...

Colonel: All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate.

Rose: It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution.

Colonel: Raiden, you seem to think that our plan is one of censorship.

Raiden: Are you telling me it's not!?

Rose: You're being silly! What we propose to do is not to control
content, but to create context.

Raiden: Create context?

Colonel: The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards the development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you.

Rose: Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other humans.

Colonel: Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims.

Rose: Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species. Everyone grows up being told the same thing.

Colonel: "Be nice to other people."

Rose: "But beat out the competition!"

Colonel: "You're special." "Believe in yourself and you will succeed."

Rose: But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed...

Colonel: You exercise your right to "freedom" and this is the result. All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems.

Rose: Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.

Colonel: The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated, but nobody is right.

Rose: Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "truth."

Colonel: And this is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

Rose: We're trying to stop that from happening.

Colonel: It's our responsibility as rulers. Just as in genetics, unnecessary information and memory must be filtered out to stimulate the evolution of the species.

Raiden: And you think you're qualified to decide what's necessary and not?

Colonel: Absolutely. Who else could wade through the sea of garbage you people produce, retrieve valuable truths and even interpret their meaning for later generations?

Rose: That's what it means to create context.

Raiden: I'll decide for myself what to believe and what to pass on!

Colonel: But is that even your own idea?

Rose: Or something Snake told you?

Colonel: That's the proof of your incompetence, right there. You lack the qualifications to exercise free will.

Raiden: That's not true! I have the right --

Rose: Does something like a "self" exist inside of you?

Colonel: That which you call "self" serves as nothing more than a mask to cover your own being.

Rose: In this era of ready-made 'truths', "self" is just something used to preserve those positive emotions that you occasionally feel...

Colonel: Another possibility is that "self" is a concept you conveniently borrowed under the logic that it would endow you with some sense of strength...

Raiden: That's crap!

Colonel: Is it? Would you prefer that someone else tell you? Alright then. Explain it to him.

Rose: Jack, you're simply the best! And you got there all by yourself!

Raiden: Grrr...

Colonel: Oh, what happened? Do you feel lost? Why not try a bit of soul-searching?

Rose: Don't think you'll find anything, though...

Colonel: Ironic that although "self" is something that you yourself fashioned, every time something goes wrong, you turn around and place the blame on something else.

Rose: "It's not my fault. It's not your fault."

Colonel: In denial, you simply resort to looking for another, more convenient "truth" in order to make yourself feel better.

Rose: Leaving behind in an instant the so-called "truth" you once embraced.

Colonel: Should someone like that be able to decide what is "truth"?

Rose: Should someone like you even have the right to decide?

Colonel: You've done nothing but abuse your freedom.

Rose: You don't deserve to be free!

Colonel: We're not the ones smothering the world. You are.

Rose: The individual is supposed to be weak. But far from powerless -- a single person has the potential to ruin the world.

Colonel: And the age of digitized communication has given even more power to the individual. Too much power for an immature species.

Rose: Building a legacy involves figuring out what is wanted, and what needs to be done for that goal. All this, you used to struggle with. Now, we think for you.

Colonel: We are your guardians after all.

Raiden: You want to control human thought? Human behavior?

Colonel: Of course. Anything can be quantified nowadays. That's what this exercise was designed to prove.

Rose: You fell in love with me just as you were meant to, after all. Isn't that right, Jack?

Colonel: Ocelot was not told the whole truth, to say the least.

Rose: We rule an entire nation -- of what interest would a single soldier, no matter how able, be to us?

Colonel: The S3 Plan does not stand for Solid Snake Simulation. What it does stand for is Selection for Societal Sanity...

In the words of an derange Englishman

"If I wanted to think too much about the world around...I'll spend my life in one room thinking about life then doing something...in other words...don't F**king spend your life thinking deep in everything......just smoke a Cuban ciger and kick back if you can't do that..then just walk into the dunes of Sahara and never come back to mankind...if its get too complex for you to live with it.."

And what happen to that derange Englishman.. some say he was lock up in a loony bin and other say the fed came and took alway for saying too much...the world shall never know..

It might be time to bring back Killswitch Engage...Who remembers that awe-inspiring RP.

I remember:

Speech writing was uber-quality.

Wait... I remember how that story went (or how it was going) No, definetly not time to bring that RP back, let it rest in peace.

It might be time to bring back Killswitch Engage...Who remembers that awe-inspiring RP.
I don't. Remind me.

When the Empire really begins to beat its "drums" and makes awesome speechs in relevance to conquests and quests.

Has anyone ever read the Mortal Engines Series from Phillip Reeve, well im assembling something from it in Oman and soon it will be ready

Has anyone ever read the Mortal Engines Series from Phillip Reeve, well im assembling something from it in Oman and soon it will be ready

No. It is good I imagine? I'm currently reading (don't laugh) the Left Behind Series. I'm on book 10 almost done with it (out of 12). It's pretty damn good I have to admit.

Just to remind you people

I will exchange my Greek claims for some land...any land...just post me a offer,

Here is what I own in Greece

Greece (Central Macedonia, East Macedonia and Thrace, North Aegean, South Aegean [part], West Macedonia),

The series was originally intended for kids, I was a kid when the first book came out, but it really is a good read, and the last book has just been released. Its set in post apocolyptic times when the American Empire annihalated most of the world in the "60 minute war" and all these bits of info have been lost. Like heavier than air flight, they all have airships. Anyway in the aftermath of this nuclear/whatever cool weapons war, natural calamaties started sweeping across the world and cities had to start moving, and thats what i have built

The series was originally intended for kids, I was a kid when the first book came out, but it really is a good read, and the last book has just been released. Its set in post apocolyptic times when the American Empire annihalated most of the world in the "60 minute war" and all these bits of info have been lost. Like heavier than air flight, they all have airships. Anyway in the aftermath of this nuclear/whatever cool weapons war, natural calamaties started sweeping across the world and cities had to start moving, and thats what i have built

Quite awesome. My latest literary attempt, Hunter is post-apocalyptic. It's set in NY after a second 9/11 (and worse).

I know, does anyone have any objection to the shear novelty of a massive multi -million tonne city coming grinding across the Desert at them on huge tracks? Come on, it will be fun trying to stop the damn thing

Transportable cities? I'm all for creative ideas, but the last time I heard of transportable cities was from Final Fantasy VIII... and an episode of Spongebob Squarepants, (rainy day schedule at camp, did not watch of my own will I swear) neither of which are the best sources for a MT-PMT RP.

Bassically, these things are enourmous slow moving behemoths, this one is nuclear powered and will be moving at at most walking pace, so dont run and hide just yet.
And frankly, with a big enough power supply and transmission system (in this case electric motors in the track pods) ANYTHING will move. The big problem is avoiding sinking into the ground

Do what you want, but if someone attacks your nations and you say 'my cities drove away,' during the ensuing 'godmod' accusation-fest don't blame me for not tellin' ya it was retarded/wouldn't work.

Im using one, and its going to try and drive over what remains of Panatheaas Teritories

Do what you want, but if someone attacks your nations and you say 'my cities drove away,' during the ensuing 'godmod' accusation-fest don't blame me for not tellin' ya it was retarded/wouldn't work.

That would probably be the biggest godmode in the history of NS.

Im using one, and its going to try and drive over what remains of Panatheaas Teritories

I'm curious how something that big and that heavy doesn't sink in the sand?

Meh, I'll let Pantheaa do the proceeding 'but that's god-modding!!!' rant, see how he likes having to deal with it.

I'm curious how something that big and that heavy doesn't sink in the sand?

Wide tracks, and avoiding the particularily bad areas, there is a problem in that the tracks are very vulnerable because of their massive size. So that is the key to defeating them, but most crew would probably trying to blast the upper levels, where the command structures are, its a psychological thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-Transporter

They had to specially create a path for the Crawler-Transporter for the STS because it was too heavy to travel on a normal road. It weighs 6 million pounds unloaded. A moving city will weigh who knows how much more?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawlerway

The Crawlerway is a 100 foot-wide (30m) double pathway at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The pathway is designed to support the weight of the Space Shuttle and the Crawler-Transporter as the shuttle is moved to the launchpad. A seven foot bed of crushed stone lies beneath a layer of asphalt and a rock surface. The Crawlerway was originally used to transport Saturn V rockets during the Apollo Program.

The Crawlerway runs between the Vehicle Assembly Building and the two launchpads at Launch Complex 39 and has a length of 3.5 miles.

Now we're talking sand? Ummm...

That is designed to carry a larger cargo per unit mass than this thing is, and ofcourse i have infinately more power available

Um yeah. If a godmode citation comes up I'm going to have to support it.

Meh, forget it then, i thought it would be a nice idea, but just forget it

Meh, forget it then, i thought it would be a nice idea, but just forget it

It would be but it's probably more future tech than even PMT. You would see something like that in a RPG game set in the year like 2100 or something.

In lighter news:

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com

Still waiting for responses from Huahin, Genetican, Rome, and Neuvo Rica...

:: slips $200 to Bjornoya for obvious reasons ::

In lighter news:

HA! Get it?... Get it? That's a kneeslapper.

:: slips $200 to Bjornoya for obvious reasons ::

Replaces his ^%#;[/;.'< broken PS2 and throws N64 out window.

Anyone else notice the 'Click here to win 100$' non-existant button on the Pacific Ocean (Real Life) Map?

Anyone else notice the 'Click here to win 100$' non-existant button on the Pacific Ocean (Real Life) Map?

An obvious Easter Egg, which took how long to be pointed out?

An obvious Easter Egg, which took how long to be pointed out?
Damn it...I never realize we had easter eggs...and plus I never did checked rl map of the Pacific Ocean, since I had no claim interest for it..

They're actually all unintentional, however many there are.

Just to remind you people

I will exchange my Greek claims for some land...any land...just post me a offer,

Here is what I own in Greece

Greece (Central Macedonia, East Macedonia and Thrace, North Aegean, South Aegean [part], West Macedonia),


Ottoman Khaif: I still have an offer in mind, but I must check a few things first, so keep it waiting. Thank you.

RomeW: How much should I pay for your Greek lands? Please answer by telegram, as I don't get on very frequently, and if you post it, I probably will miss it.

I would like to claim Bassas da India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassas_da_india), Europa Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Island), British Indian Ocean Territory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Indian_Ocean_Territory), and most importantly, because I would really like this one, St Pierre and Miquelon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Pierre_and_Miquelon).

I think they are all taken, I tried to claim St. Pierre and Miquelon when I first started and it was already claimed.

Well I couldn't find them in the claim list. Anyway, I'd like to claim some more north american/atlantic land, so then I'll split of my central asian territories, and offer it to someone new, but someone who will definitely post a lot in Earth 2, because all our recent new additions have been a bit of a let down.

An obvious Easter Egg, which took how long to be pointed out?

Well I noticed it before, but it never clicked lol.

Well I noticed it before, but it never clicked lol.

*wince*

What a terrible line. I wish I'd thought of it first.

On April 30, 1789, on the balcony of Federal Hall on Wall Street in New York City, George Washington takes the oath of office to become the first elected President of the United States.

On April 30, 1939, the New York World's Fair opens.

On April 30, 1945, Hitler killed himself. In reality a native New Yorker from the OSA killed him.

On April 30, 1975, Saigon fell. There were no New Yorkers present.

On April 30, 1993, the World Wide Web was born at CERN. Rumors are that a New Yorker was present.

On April 30, 2008, New York will seceede from the Union and take over the remainder of the United States.

On April 30, 2012, the Empire of New York will be established.

Until 2008, we can look at these uber pictures.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/The%20Outlaw/General/f16-tb-nyc-01.jpg

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/The%20Outlaw/General/f16-tb-nyc-02.jpg

1776-Present Time

Only Texas was a nation before it was accepted into the Union. New York never was.


-Hawdawg

1776-Present Time

Only Texas was a nation before it was accepted into the Union. New York never was.


-Hawdawg

New York is a nation, a state, a culture, a being, and a race unto itself, thus spaketh the Prophet.

New York is a nation, a state, a culture, a being, and a race unto itself, thus spaketh the Prophet.

And so is Texas plus the added bonuses of Concealed Handgun Licenses, and no income tax.

-Hawdawg

We're cooler.

We're cooler.

You're both wrong. New England is ten times cooler than New York AND Texas. Combined. It's in the way we speak. And our food. And since we've got more Irish people, we're better in bar fights.

You're both wrong. New England is ten times cooler than New York AND Texas. Combined. It's in the way we speak. And our food. And since we've got more Irish people, we're better in bar fights.

Ya'll's food won't hold a candle to Homemade Berry Cobbler, Blue Bell Ice Cream, and the secret weapon Texas BBQ. Its a requirement all native Texans must have a pit in the yard. And for fighting well four words Stone Cold Steve Austin resides here, but the trump of all trumps (no pun intended) Chuck Norris lives here.

-Hawdawg

I'll have to side with Texas if New York gets close to the Midwest.

We are the Heart of the Paratroopers, we gave birth to them. All you got is your fancy Irishmen and fancy Accent, :-P. We...we have a NORMAL accent and we still carry around guns because Nebraska, like Texas, thinks it is right to have concealed weapons :-P...

Yea, that made total sense...

Our pizza and hot dogs will destroy the world they are so damn good. However, you might have all of that but we have a weapon up here that we can use to throw upon you: liberals! We just flood the Midwest with them and while you're taking them out, we'll get you and get you good!

Our pizza and hot dogs will destroy the world they are so damn good. However, you might have all of that but we have a weapon up here that we can use to throw upon you: liberals! We just flood the Midwest with them and while you're taking them out, we'll get you and get you good!

WE HAVE MORE LIBERALS THAN YOU!

It's obvious. We've got Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, the Democratic National Convention. Boston is the capital of the Democratic Party, buck-o. I think New England should just split off from America, since no one appreciates us, and then we can become part of Canada. "The Province of New England". Nice ring to it. Or maybe we can re-name it the "Province of Atlantica" or something...

California:

5th
Largest
Economy
in
the
WORLD

nuf said...

and the rest of you who haven't get off yer lazy asses and send me the econ survey so I can finish!

NYC controls the world economy;).

California:

5th
Largest
Economy
in
the
WORLD

nuf said...

and the rest of you who haven't get off yer lazy asses and send me the econ survey so I can finish!

You guys are lead by an Austrian muscle-man.

'Nuff said.

***^The above endorsement brought to you by the Governator^***

You need that size of an economy to purchase oil, natural gas, and electricity from Texas.

**Heads off to build another pipeline to California**



-Hawdawg

:: sneezes and stock prices fall 25% overnight ::

Your all wrong, New Jersey had bon jovi.... yea i said it.

Your all wrong, New Jersey had bon jovi.... yea i said it.

Which is probably the only good thing to come out of NJ.

what about monopoly?

And Texas has ZZ Top. We also had Buddie Hollie. Plus who can forget Willie Nelson. Shall I go on?

-Hawdawg

You guys are lead by an Austrian muscle-man.

'Nuff said.

And that's a bad thing?

***^The above endorsement brought to you by the Governator^***

You need that size of an economy to purchase oil, natural gas, and electricity from Texas.

**Heads off to build another pipeline to California**


-Hawdawg

We only import oil from Texas because we don't want to ruin our view of the beach with more offshore oil platforms.

This just in.................

An executive at Dallas-based Exxon-Mobil farted this afternoon and the disruption in the distribution supply for gasoline suffered. Almost as fast as the odor permeated the boardroom, prices on the contracts for June delivery rose 15% on the CME boards. Analysts claim we haven't gotten wind of the worst of it yet.

Ranchers in Texas love oil wells. Many refer to them as the "cash cow" of there operation. As far as offshore oil wells, the more the merrier, they are great for sport fishing and the economy.

And that's a bad thing?

"No one who speaks German can be evil!"

Ranchers in Texas love oil wells. Many refer to them as the "cash cow" of there operation. As far as offshore oil wells, the more the merrier, they are great for sport fishing and the economy.

Agreed, although it does say a lot for our economy if it takes a hit (not having more o.p.) just to make things look prettier.

On a side note, my grandfather worked on building oil wells back in the day.

"No one who speaks German can be evil!"

Arnold's like a less intelligent but more handsome version of Ronald Reagan.

Which is probably the only good thing to come out of NJ.

I'm sure Patrik Elias has something to show about that:

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10102000/10102746.jpg

Somebody's a little pissed the Rangers lost? :p

Arnold's like a less intelligent but more handsome version of Ronald Reagan.

And a lot less charismatic. And popular...

And a lot less charismatic. And popular...

Yet infinitelly more alive.

Yet infinitelly more alive.

I would have voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2003...he sounded like he had a vision and ideas. Now, I just don't know what happened.

On a side note- am I the only hockey fan here (besides Cymrea and maybe Squornshelous, I'm suspecting)? If so, you guys are ALL missing out- it's been great this year.

I would have voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2003...he sounded like he had a vision and ideas. Now, I just don't know what happened.

On a side note- am I the only hockey fan here (besides Cymrea and maybe Squornshelous, I'm suspecting)? If so, you guys are ALL missing out- it's been great this year.

I've been watching when I can around studying for exams, but my team just got closed out.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=260429020
We miss you Habby, why'd you have to go. :(

I would never and will never vote for a famous person Democrat or Republican. They just campagin on their celebrity personality and not the issues. IE Arnold who reads from scripted pages during debates and dropped one liners from his movie. :rolleyes:

If you look at Arnold for example, his poll numbers were strong in the first year. But then they dipped...why? Cause after the media circus ended, the realities of being govenor took over and Arnold ended up being not the great person that the media played him out to be

But then again at least he's better then Bob Taft

I've been watching when I can around studying for exams, but my team just got closed out.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=260429020
We miss you Habby, why'd you have to go. :(

That was- besides Detroit-Edmonton- the most surprising series so far in these playoffs. I really thought that Tampa Bay and Ottawa were evenly matched: both teams had highly skilled forwards, a competent and prolific defence and unproven goaltenders. Really, this series could have very easily been about how the likes of Daniel Alfredsson, Martin Havlat and Jason Spezza couldn't score and how the Senators really needed Domonik Hasek. Instead, it was about how Ruslan Fedotenko, Fredrik Modin and Vincent Lecavalier couldn't score and how the Lightning really needed Nikolai Khabibulin- although I really wonder how different the series could have been if Sean Burke started the whole series.

My team (Buffalo) is still in it, and they just played their best game of the series, if not the season, tonight. Don't know if they'll be Stanley Cup material though- they were dominant, but they bended too much on defence and don't have the "killer punch" that a team like Ottawa has. Still, if Buffalo can shut down the likes of Peter Forsberg and Simon Gagne, I like our chances.

I'm also psyched about the possible Calgary-Edmonton second round. That'll be fun to watch. :cool:

http://www.freewebs.com/bjornoya/EconomicSurvey.doc

I tried to cover as many aspects as I could that were also easily answerable (i.e. nothing about Keynesianism, inflation, supply and demand curves, naked short selling etc. sorry HD and OK)

Have fun and rest knowing the grading of your answers rests entirelly in my hands...

Simply type answers on the survey, save it, and send it to sedahtrand@hotmail.com

Still waiting for responses from Genetican, Rome, and Neuvo Rica...

Oh yeah, if Arnold were actually making decisions that effected the state, no I would not vote for him but after I read the Hitchiker's Guide it stated something that hit home; the job of a president/governor may not be to wield power, but instead distract attention away from it (corporate world?) If that is Arnold's job he does it rather well.

Still waiting for responses from Genetican, Rome, and Neuvo Rica...

Still sorting a few things out. Haven't had a lot of time recently.

@Bjorn: What's your email? I can't find it - or should I just PM the survey to you?

43rd out of 111,435 for World's Safest Nations. OH YEAH!

"A day with out immigrants"

What have i been saying along? The power of social movements is what drives this nations democracy

I would never and will never vote for a famous person Democrat or Republican. They just campagin on their celebrity personality and not the issues. IE Arnold who reads from scripted pages during debates and dropped one liners from his movie. :rolleyes:

If you look at Arnold for example, his poll numbers were strong in the first year. But then they dipped...why? Cause after the media circus ended, the realities of being govenor took over and Arnold ended up being not the great person that the media played him out to be

But then again at least he's better then Bob Taft

Reagan was a Celebrity and an Actor, and look at what he did. True, people will take to advantage what they can. If it is fame and a lot of movies, they'll use it. They'll, perhaps, act out those roles but not directly because people, more or less, love that character rather than that person.

Reagan, though, was just a Charismatic and Intellegent man that even if he never made it in Hollywood he still would have one day made it to a Presidency.

"A day with out immigrants"

What have i been saying along? The power of social movements is what drives this nations democracy

I laugh at those who are partaking in this, because they arn't really hurting our economy.

And the smart immigrants, like my German teacher's husband who is a College Professor, are still going to work because they realize they won't impact the economy big time.

Will it impact the economy like fly impacts a hamburger bun? Sure, but will we be near death...hah...fuck no.

Pschy you strike me as the kind of person that would pay 3 dollars per gallon for gas. I on the other hand am boycotting that fucking price hike

Yes it will have a dramatic effect on the economy. Of course it will only be for one day so the dent will be small, but it will still drive home the point that immigrants will not accept the house bill that would make immigrants fellions


Reagan was a Celebrity and an Actor, and look at what he did. True, people will take to advantage what they can. If it is fame and a lot of movies, they'll use it. They'll, perhaps, act out those roles but not directly because people, more or less, love that character rather than that person

Reagan was a leader who drove the United States into a defiect. He expanded the military budget while starting a new kind of federalism known as devolution, which would make the states in charge of things like social security and welfare. The states however can't deal with that much burden and thats why the govenors of various states are trying to lobby the government to make it go back to the old ways. So in other words he was producing more weapons despite the fact that the economy was in shambles. The only good thing he did was create more jobs then the presidents prior to him.

Reagan also sold weapons to contras, something that he claimed he had no acknowledge it and pinned all the blame on Oliver North who lied in front of Congress that he had no acknowlegde of it. Then Reagan tried to make the claim that the contras were "freedom fighters" and that the commies were trying to ruin Christmas. As Al Gore would say IM SUPER CERAL, Reagan tried to use Christmas as excuse to fight.

Reagan used a movie line from a WW2 movie on a memorial day for WW2 vets. Its a little outrageous to use a movie line to remember fallen heros don't you think. But of course for Reagan it was no big deal cause a writer for Reagan even admited that they set up every session with Reagan as if it was a movie set and he was the star. Everything was scripted, the lights were just in the right place, and the the make up was applied perfectly. Reagan used Television to produce an image that wasn't really him, but more like the fictional characters he played on TV. America was fooled by this ploy.

Was Reagan a bad president...no. But don't even claim he was a good one

He destroyed communism and rebuilt the US Military after Carter's blunders (effectively saving the lives on countless servicemen who were at risk due to military budget cuts etc). He also helped restore confidence in the people, having been browbeaten since Vietnam. To say he wasn't a good President is to not know your history.

And Pantheaa, stop arguing about politics and get those regions of yours given away, quicksmart.

He destroyed communism? Not...communism destroyed itself. Communism would of fallen regardless of who was president. Their is no evidence to suggest Reagan had a role in its downfall. In fact Reagan used faulty intell to suggest that the Soviet Union was expanded and building more nuclear bombs then the US. He didn't think Communism was fallen, he throught the quite the opposite, that it was expanded. Reagan used the big bad Russian bear theory to justified an increase in the military budget. And the military budget of the US is the largest out of any democractic nation in the world. We don't really need 100 something bases across the globe, do we?

In his farewell speech, President Eisenhower warned Americans to be aware of the growing military industrial complex. Which when we have a growing military business, you are bound to see more and more wars. We didn't listen to Ike, and now we are paying the price with more and more nations and groups hating us. They see us as the imperial giant, while China and Russia have had no such criticism. We are given are critics fuel for the fire when we play world police.

And im not given away my land till NG gives the go ahead and Cotland gets out of Kalmkyia
I am Jack's Stubborn mule

Pantheaa, you strike me as the certain person who exagerates on the bad and hides the good because you can't face the fact that your own beliefes are perhaps not for the best. Most 'immigrants' who are protesting havn't even read the bill being passed by the house, and all they do ( much like your self ) is exagerate the bad points of it and hide the good points. Also, I never said I thought the bill was completely right. But you are one sort of a dick to believe that all Reagan did was ruin America and a few other countries if not the entire world.

Reagan did some 'bad' things, but all leaders throughout the world have done bad things. Just because we bring one up doesn't mean that he is the worst. And soon you'll be contradicting your self if we go into the list of American Presidents or British Prime Ministers or German Kancelorz. You, however, are showing the tendancies to pick out small little details from what people are saying or doing and blow it up so you can have an argument you are never going to win nor lose because, my friend, this is called life and this little thing we use daily is a computer which we use the brilliant invention of the internet to argue with one another knowing that even if our beliefes arn't widely believed well we can argue anyways.

Soon, you'll most likely be saying all Republicans are Fascists and all their leaders have done bad and not good. I'm hoping you won't but I also know you won't I am doing more of a what if in a sarcastic way. But if you want to go on about Presidents and other national leaders then fine we'll take that to another form of communication unless others wish to do so here. Seeing as I brought up Reagan mostly because of your little beliefe that all Celebrity Politicians don't care for the world and only want more fame and that I felt that you were wrong, which of course is inevitable and can never be avoided because there will always be fault and there will always be disagreement.

The 'contras' was a random thing to bring up but soon ( I am sure of this one ) you'll bash whoever it was again ( post to the point where I can't remember his name because well I never checked because I was too quick to want to respond ) who said Reagan toar down Communism and all the other good things and soon you will take this to a talk about how Bush is evil.

But to answer your statement that you see me as one of those people who would buy gas at 3 Dollars, no I am not that person. But then again, I am not a dumb ass to go ahead and stop driving because of it. Price Gauge or not I will drive but I will protest the idea of having too although I don't need too. If you want my personal beliefe, we should have bombed the entire Middle East and turn it into an Oil Industry...or better yet, eliminate the need for Oil and start using other methods which are readily available but not widely thought about. So, if you wish to make accusations then I hope to inform you that I have made some of my own towards you in hopes that you have caught on to them and do not require this sentance to inform you.

But in light of other news, what is your problem with me. Your dislike towards me only erupted when everyone was invading you, when all I did was to offer an IC thing to help your people and you responded back in a most threateningly way which only proves you are desperate and you deserve nothing more but to have your EII nation to be rested into dirt. Hell, go start your own Earth for now and leave this one as you only provide a tumor in all of our patience part of our brain and for all I care you can go stick what you know what you should in your own Oral Cavity and your hands elsewhere so that we may continue in the harmonious bliss which has been disrupted when you had to bring up to our attention that you are nothing but weak and a little child, because sir all you tend to do now is whine and bitch and moan and I've about had it with your indecency to not want to act as a grown man, and to instead act only as a child and to use childess accusations that have nothing to do with your position with-in this Earth.

So if you would so kindly do us all a favor, would you please post your resignation and leave your spoils for everyone else to fight and argue over. Atleast you would not leave in vein, because your ultimate goal to disrupt this thread would still have succeded as man can not help himself to anything less than a foothold yet more they only wish to retain an Empire which has been displayed many..many..many..many times before, both here and elsewhere and in history. So, in layman's terms, get the fuck out of here and don't let the door hit you on the behind on your way out. Now, thank you and have a good day.

One last thing on the Cotland thing? Cotland claims that all Panthean civilains have been removed from Kalmkyia. So him leaving my land will result in no rebellions since no civilians are there. Cotland is holding Kalmkyia for some future war...you all should be very scared


So if you would so kindly do us all a favor, would you please post your resignation and leave your spoils for everyone else to fight and argue over. Atleast you would not leave in vein, because your ultimate goal to disrupt this thread would still have succeded as man can not help himself to anything less than a foothold yet more they only wish to retain an Empire which has been displayed many..many..many..many times before, both here and elsewhere and in history. So, in layman's terms, get the fuck out of here and don't let the door hit you on the behind on your way out. Now, thank youand have a good day.

Fuck me. Fuck you!

You claim to be the mighty Japenese and a rogue nation...HA thats laughable. You're weak and pitiful and a fucking retard

And because i was insulted again. I changed my mind IM NOT LEAVING ALL CLAIMS HAVE BEEN CANCELED. Don't treat me with respect and you're not getting anything. I voluteered to bow out gracefully. I activeily engage in debates and because i disagree with anyone else MY VIEWS AREN'T WELCOMED??????? Im disrepected for partaking in what i thought is how you play the game.

SO NOTHING CHANGES MY LANDS STAY THE WAY THEY ARE! THANK PSCY FOR SCREWING IT ALL UP


But in light of other news, what is your problem with me. Your dislike towards me only erupted when everyone was invading you, when all I did was to offer an IC thing to help your people and you responded back in a most threateningly way which only proves you are desperate and you deserve nothing more but to have your EII nation to be rested into dirt. Hell, go start your own Earth for now and leave this one as you only provide a tumor in all of our patience part of our brain and for all I care you can go stick what you know what you should in your own Oral Cavity and your hands elsewhere so that we may continue in the harmonious bliss which has been disrupted when you had to bring up to our attention that you are nothing but weak and a little child, because sir all you tend to do now is whine and bitch and moan and I've about had it with your indecency to not want to act as a grown man, and to instead act only as a child and to use childess accusations that have nothing to do with your position with-in this Earth.


I WANTED TO KEEP MY LANDS. YOU ARE GIVEN THE ALLIES HOPE MY OPENING YOUR BOARDERS TO REFUGEES. THEREFORE I DIDN'T ACCEPT MY PEOPLE GOING OVER TO JAPAN


But to answer your statement that you see me as one of those people who would buy gas at 3 Dollars, no I am not that person. But then again, I am not a dumb ass to go ahead and stop driving because of it. Price Gauge or not I will drive but I will protest the idea of having too although I don't need too. If you want my personal beliefe, we should have bombed the entire Middle East and turn it into an Oil Industry...or better yet, eliminate the need for Oil and start using other methods which are readily available but not widely thought about. So, if you wish to make accusations then I hope to inform you that I have made some of my own towards you in hopes that you have caught on to them and do not require this sentance to inform you.

dumbass


Soon, you'll most likely be saying all Republicans are Fascists and all their leaders have done bad and not good. I'm hoping you won't but I also know you won't I am doing more of a what if in a sarcastic way. But if you want to go on about Presidents and other national leaders then fine we'll take that to another form of communication unless others wish to do so here. Seeing as I brought up Reagan mostly because of your little beliefe that all Celebrity Politicians don't care for the world and only want more fame and that I felt that you were wrong, which of course is inevitable and can never be avoided because there will always be fault and there will always be disagreement.

My dads a Republican, why would i call republicans fascist then


Reagan did some 'bad' things, but all leaders throughout the world have done bad things. Just because we bring one up doesn't mean that he is the worst. And soon you'll be contradicting your self if we go into the list of American Presidents or British Prime Ministers or German Kancelorz. You, however, are showing the tendancies to pick out small little details from what people are saying or doing and blow it up so you can have an argument you are never going to win nor lose because, my friend, this is called life and this little thing we use daily is a computer which we use the brilliant invention of the internet to argue with one another knowing that even if our beliefes arn't widely believed well we can argue anyways.

Small details. Yes funding contras in a foreign land is a small detail. Considering that America as a history of topling democratic governments in favor of military governments and authoritarian rulers.

....Anyway. Yea ive been watching the playoffs. And, ROMEW, not sure if you picked up but being from south jersey my team is philly. Its been rough, real rough. Dont think youll win at the Wac tomorrow night. Shut down number 21, HA! Last night maybe, but he is crazy good...sadly the only reason we didnt get swept. Philly has god damn split personalities i kid you not.

Anyway, im glad the rangers lost. No offense lay but i dispise the rangers. If i could id teabag everyone of them speciialy jagr (their whole team as the playoffs have shown). How bout Edomonton! Pronger = on fire.

Im mad because the Flyers make me that way.

Too late to cancel actually Pantheaa. Psy had nothing to do with the deals anyway, so there would be no logical point in cancelling them because of him. If you two want to sling mud, you know where to go. You have the right to disagree with Psy, but don't do it here, too much flaming.
In Psy's defense you did post a strange and alarmingly racist depiction of Japanese people when some of your citizens were offered the chance of going there. In any case, citizens we deem 'avaliable' in the occupied territories are Visara Corp. property, not yours. Look at the RP. If they should turn up in Japan, so be it, its called free trade.

And by the way, NG sent me a TG recently agreeing his land to be given away. You now have no excuses. And if no Pantheaans are left in Kalmkyia, there is no point in trying to give it away to someone, just let Cotland have it.

Now please don't argue and flame here, ya'll know where to go if you want to do that.

I'm sure Patrik Elias has something to show about that:

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10102000/10102746.jpg

Somebody's a little pissed the Rangers lost? :p

Hockey...lol...I laugh at it...

Am I the only one who thinks all of these illegals protesting is a good idea?

:: gasp ::

Why?

Because it's a golden opportunity to round them up and deport them! They aren't hiding. I mean wow, what a great fricking idea! They should have thought of this a long time ago.

Too late to cancel actually Pantheaa. Psy had nothing to do with the deals anyway, so there would be no logical point in cancelling them because of him. If you two want to sling mud, you know where to go. You have the right to disagree with Psy, but don't do it here, too much flaming.
In Psy's defense you did post a strange and alarmingly racist depiction of Japanese people when some of your citizens were offered the chance of going there. In any case, citizens we deem 'avaliable' in the occupied territories are Visara Corp. property, not yours. Look at the RP. If they should turn up in Japan, so be it, its called free trade.

And by the way, NG sent me a TG recently agreeing his land to be given away. You now have no excuses. And if no Pantheaans are left in Kalmkyia, there is no point in trying to give it away to someone, just let Cotland have it.

Now please don't argue and flame here, ya'll know where to go if you want to do that.

No shit it was racist i did write a disclaimer saying my people were xenophopic. My people have lived in white areas all of their llives why would they like to live with color people not knowing anything about them

Well im wanted a TG or a post here from NG personally agreeing to it. But now its too late, i was insulted and the "Be mature" decree doesn't appky to some nations. So i still have Yemen, Kursk, and Bruanssk. Which im now keeping as a prize for the disrepect.

Official Announcement of the Empire

Should The Democratic Empire of Teh ninjas collapse as a result of their civil war, the Empire shall look upon any foreign intervention into Cuba in a negative light. The island of Cuba represents a clear and distinct manifest destiny for the Empire and its populace. We will do everything without our power to ensure that it does not remain a divided island.

The Emperor

Been reading Grumbles of Civil War have we?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480478


Killswitch Engage II: Realization

attn: all

No shit it was racist i did write a disclaimer saying my people were xenophopic. My people have lived in white areas all of their llives why would they like to live with color people not knowing anything about them

Well im wanted a TG or a post here from NG personally agreeing to it. But now its too late, i was insulted and the "Be mature" decree doesn't appky to some nations. So i still have Yemen, Kursk, and Bruanssk. Which im now keeping as a prize for the disrepect.

So let me get this straight, your basically indian giving your lands? They may remain yours if someone doesn't take them from you. Your forces are tattered and your areas of "occupation" are populated with a defeated dispirited army. Give it up already. This has gone on for far too long.

-Hawdawg

So let me get this straight, your basically indian giving your lands? They may remain yours if someone doesn't take them from you. Your forces are tattered and your areas of "occupation" are populated with a defeated dispirited army. Give it up already. This has gone on for far too long.

-Hawdawg

Im indian giving my land? WTF does that mean hotdog?

No im not giving up and because NG lacks a ORBATS that means i also lack one. Meaning that i can just make more and more tanks reappear out of no where

Yes it's god moding. But its countering the god modding from NG

Bird of Prey - Flying High! Flying High!

Hoorah!

lay check your TG's

I responded.

So....

Wait, I'm supposed to cry in some sort of way and continue to really care about the shit driblets that fall out of your mouth?

( Also back to step one, umm...you were nasty to me in a racial way anyways OOCly about the whole thing that I would be taking Pantheaan Refugees in...notice the word Refuge...it does not mean slave...but sure I urge you to still have your refugees come here and try to start some revolution against 3.167 Billion people with like 300 or so Refugees...hey we havn't eliminated Death Camps as an option yet have we? Also, you don't have a clue on how hard to is to keep politics in favor of you to revive Japan as an Empire...I'm amazed Hirohito could do it...oh yea the entire thing with a few dozen advisors and a lot of General masterminds...that may have been the trick...yea...good one, insult someone with the word retard...I'll go cry to my mom now, thank you very much. )

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Huahin [Post 12933]: Bassas da India, Europa Island is part of Réunion. British Indian Ocean Territory is claimed by Hawdawg as part of the UK. Saint-Pierre and Miquelon is owned by North Germania as part of France.






Post 12467 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10760388&postcount=12467): I need TLS & Yerffej to come to an agreement on this issue.
Post 12333 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10740878&postcount=12333): I still need Yerffej to confirm his land.




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MayDay invasions began. Operation Dummerung will experience some fighting to! Portugal is going down in flames. This will be a counter offense that the go down in the history books

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480516

Oh goodie.

Hey did anyone notice? We can change thread titles now by editing them?

I don't godmod, Pantheaa, you little twit. I probably have 3x more armies than you do, and since there's a war in Russia about 2/5 of them have been moved near that continent. If you want proof, I made a post listing where I stationed my armies.

The fact of the matter is, my population is over FIVE BILLION, meaning that I do, in fact, have many more tanks, artillery pieces, infantrymen, fighters, bombers, ships, and missiles than you do. And good luck trying to invade me in Portugal. If I decided to turn off my SOSUS net in the Atlantic just for fun, you might be able to advance two kilometers inland before three armies annihilated your ground forces and two fleets (not including those of the TOA) eviscerated your "fleet".

Keep up the good work though. By the way, you say Kursk is yours, but remember when I thermite bombed your troops? Yeah, not much resistance left. If you have ADD, I suggest you double your dose of Ritalin.

Sorry for flaming, Lay.