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Layarteb
02-04-2006, 04:40
12,001.

So hah.

I like to spam it spam it. I like to spam it spam it.
The Lightning Star
02-04-2006, 05:09
By the way, I would officially like to announce that Carthage has become the Almighty Crusader Kingdom of Jesuslandia.

Official Jesuslandia Manifesto

Fellow Followers of Jesus, the Infidel empire of Carthage is no more. Now, the sons of Christ have come forth to spread the holy laws of the Bible. We shall base the law of the land on the following pasages:

Deuteronomy 27:9-10
Moses then said to all Israel, 'Be silent, Israel, and listen. You must listen to the voice of Yahweh your God and observe the commandments and laws which I am laying down for you today.'

Numbers 15:15, Deuteronomy 4:2
'The Law is permanent for all future generations. You must add nothing to what I command you, nor subtract anything from it, but keep the commandments of Yahweh your God just as I lay them down for you.'

'Keep them, put them into practice, and other nations will exclaim, 'No other people is as wise and prudent as this great nation!'

Deuteronomy 4:7
'And what great nation has laws and customs as upright as the entirety of The Law which I am laying down for you today?'

With such great rules to live by as;

Leviticus 18:23
'Do not have sex with any kind of animal. You would become unclean by doing so.'

Exodus 22:18
'Any man who has sex with an animal, is certainly to be put to death.'

Deuteronomy 23:1
'A man whose testicles have been crushed...'

Deuteronomy 23:1
'...or whose penis has been cut off...'

Deuteronomy 23:1
'...must not be admitted to the congregation of Yahweh.'

Deuteronomy 21:22
'If a man who commits a sin worthy of death is put to death, and you hang him from a tree...'

Deuteronomy 21:23
'...his body must not remain on the tree overnight.'

Deuteronomy 21:23
'You must bury him on the same day, for a hanged man is accursed of God.'

We hope that by following the right and just laws of the Old Testament, we can better achieve connection with our lord and savior, Jesus.
Hawdawg
02-04-2006, 05:52
Note to teenager's:

When it is 11pm and you are still playing your base guitar loud enough to keep your neighbor (me) from being able to sleep, especially since I have been working 16 hour days for a week, show a little courtesy and turn your shit down. I had to actually walk across my yard and beat on the door to get them to turn it off. The answer I got was "We didn't know it was that loud" isn't acceptable. If I can hear you over the freaking traffic, your ass is too loud. A Base Guitar makes a mighty nice necktie when an old man (myself) wraps it around your head and stomps holes in your amps because my sleep is disturbed.

My prayer: Lord please excuse the mental midgets of the world, they simply may never grow tall enough to see the fault's they possess.

-Hawdawg

I am going back to bed.
RomeW
02-04-2006, 06:26
Numbers 15:15, Deuteronomy 4:2
'The Law is permanent for all future generations. You must add nothing to what I command you, nor subtract anything from it, but keep the commandments of Yahweh your God just as I lay them down for you.'

Jesus then apparently broke this law. I forget where He said it, but I do know He did give a new commandment once- I believe it was "love your neighbour as you love yourself" or something like that. There's probably an explanation for it somewhere though.
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 07:15
Fuck all y'all who do not read my speech in Dammerung (spent like 2 hours on it, trying to find best words and keep it within a limited length)

And a less significant 'damn you' if you don't read it with the background music linked to the bold titles of the post (2 of them).

@all: you can kill political dissidents, you can kill POW or soldiers, you can violently opress and your sick and unhealthy, but when you start killing children because you don't wanna deal with them 'killing troops' who are invading their country (and paid to do so) I draw the line (well, Wilhelm or Sedaht draws the line)
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 07:59
Note to teenager's:

When it is 11pm and you are still playing your base guitar loud enough to keep your neighbor (me) from being able to sleep, especially since I have been working 16 hour days for a week, show a little courtesy and turn your shit down. I had to actually walk across my yard and beat on the door to get them to turn it off. The answer I got was "We didn't know it was that loud" isn't acceptable. If I can hear you over the freaking traffic, your ass is too loud. A Base Guitar makes a mighty nice necktie when an old man (myself) wraps it around your head and stomps holes in your amps because my sleep is disturbed.

My prayer: Lord please excuse the mental midgets of the world, they simply may never grow tall enough to see the fault's they possess.

-Hawdawg

I am going back to bed.

Do what I do, get a bigger set of speakers and blast classical music right back at them.
Andrehervia
02-04-2006, 09:47
Hello everyone.

I've noticed there's been a real scramble for my territories lately. Truth be told, I've been busy a lot lately (an excuse I've given countless times) and, perhaps more importantly, I have no idea of what I'm supposed to go with my nation. It's just seems that I have no real plans for any kind of RP and I feel that my nation has run it's course. Combine that with me paying more attention to my alt Veltmeria, and well...I don't post much anymore using this account.

It's pretty much pointless holding land that I will most likely never use for the next year, it seems, so therefore I have decided to relinquish all territorial holdings I have on Earth II and quit Earth II entirely. It's been an interesting 17 months or so and I've enjoyed my time here RPing. Thanks to everyone who's put up with my late posts and awful writing as well.

Enjoy the pickings from the former United Republics, and goodbye.
RomeW
02-04-2006, 10:39
Fuck all y'all who do not read my speech in Dammerung (spent like 2 hours on it, trying to find best words and keep it within a limited length)

And a less significant 'damn you' if you don't read it with the background music linked to the bold titles of the post (2 of them).

@all: you can kill political dissidents, you can kill POW or soldiers, you can violently opress and your sick and unhealthy, but when you start killing children because you don't wanna deal with them 'killing troops' who are invading their country (and paid to do so) I draw the line (well, Wilhelm or Sedaht draws the line)

That's some pretty wild stuff. "Responsibility not freedom"...I doubt Kaufmann could get away saying that here.

...and don't worry. I feel the same way you do for everyone who didn't read my article...
[NS]Kreynoria
02-04-2006, 15:37
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You control Chuck Norris against an army of evil ninjas. You have an arsenal of awesome attacks, including the Heart Ripper, Head Stomper, and the classic Roundhouse Kick!


Lol I thought you'd be all over this considering how much we're all obsessed with Mr. Norris.
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 17:50
That's some pretty wild stuff. "Responsibility not freedom"...I doubt Kaufmann could get away saying that here.

...and don't worry. I feel the same way you do for everyone who didn't read my article...
Visara controls the educational process, the prejudices and ideals of the masses have been changed, in many places reversed. Happens a lot in times of crisis.
Hawdawg
02-04-2006, 17:52
Interesting speech Bjorn. Gasing the natives and moving them to camps is a different angle on crowd control. Bombing would be my choice, it would keep the combat forces free from dealing with the hordes of folks that have to be moved, but I understand your logic of having some infastructure left to build up from.

-----------------------------------
Open Letter to the World

With the recent actions in the country formerly known as Pantheaa, it has become obvious to the Holy Republic a large task will begin shortly that will require large sums of money to revitalize the devistation caused from the war. The Holy Republic has decided to wire 5 Trillion Gondors each to Cotland, North Germania, Hirgizstan, Bjornoya, and Spizana for reconstruction purposes inside these newly held possessions. We only ask for improved trade routes and favorable tax incentives for our products in these newly acquired regions.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

--------------------------------

In case anyones wondering where the funds came from new tally on storefront income is $3,544,243,120,076,400 and growing daily.
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 18:03
The Corporation's secret IC rationale for relocation rather than death is for their value as laborers (and of course the value of the infrastrucutre that would be lost due to bombing). Funny how corporations, not governments would take steps to save life in these situations... who to trust?

On a side note I think the OOC hatred of Pantheaa is grossly affecting the IC decisions in that war, and I think might be using ideas that in RL would have horrific consequences, but apparently none in E2. The murder of millions of citizens and destruction of metropolises would cause a world-wide reaction both culturally and economically. Here... nothing.

Which sucks because the world-wide acknowledgment and reaction of Cot's carpet bombing vs. world-wide acknowledgment and reaction to my 'Cure for AIDS' would be a great addition to the RP, but seeing no more than 7 or 8 people would have something to say it would not go anywhere.

Which changes my reaction, in RL Wilhelm might be worried about repercussion but since little to nobody would care or create an consequences I feel I do not need to. I think Cotland would be in the a similar situation and knows it; "if and when the world community started asking questions" which is a pretty big if since the majority of the E2 community apparently does not care about humanitarianism at all, even in democracies.

Considering this, and that the news was suppose to get out eventually (ppl in Africa have figured it out by now) I'm tempted to not be worried.

@Cotland: Wilhelm had two other things in that message, the first was an offer to take care of the population for you (much as what I am doing in NGs sectors) the second was the 'I will not make deals with murderers or those who live in nations run by one' = 'I do not do business... etc.'

On another side note I think many are under-estimating intelligence capabilites (not in Dammerung) as the quality and quantity of eye-spy satellites increases we will soon be able to see anything that happens on the Earth's surface.
Hirgizstan
02-04-2006, 18:10
Message to Hawdawg

The Government, soldiers and people of the COH wish to extend its fullesh grattidue to the entire nation of Hawdawg for its valiuable charitable donation and its continued support of the crusade against rebels in the former Pantheaan territories.

COH
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 18:28
Reply from the Patriarchal Federation of Bjornoya:

We thank Hawdawg for their gesture, but must honestly decline it as the Federation will not be acquiring any territory in this operation, and therefore would be unable to spend it on creating infrastructure and reconstruction as it is intended for.
Cotland
02-04-2006, 18:42
Bjorn, I can see your logic and I accept it. If you really want the Panthean civilians who survive the invasion, you can have them. I've gone away from the whole "gas the enemy" thing, and for the most part the carpetbombing. Won't want to hurt the business deals, do we?

Haw, thanks a lot. It'll be put to good use once I've cleared out Kalmykia. Got to destroy all the buildings anyway [assuming they're Soviet-style buildings] so the money'll be needed. Thanks.
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 18:47
Bjorn, I can see your logic and I accept it. If you really want the Panthean civilians who survive the invasion, you can have them. I've gone away from the whole "gas the enemy" thing, and for the most part the carpetbombing. Won't want to hurt the business deals, do we?

Haw, thanks a lot. It'll be put to good use once I've cleared out Kalmykia. Got to destroy all the buildings anyway [assuming they're Soviet-style buildings] so the money'll be needed. Thanks.

Awesome, another crisis averted, and another mass immigration to Bjornoyan Africa is in order. Pleasure doing business.
Cotland
02-04-2006, 19:18
Awesome, another crisis averted, and another mass immigration to Bjornoyan Africa is in order. Pleasure doing business.
Great. Just don't expect them to be in too good a shape..
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 19:24
Great. Just don't expect them to be in too good a shape..

It'll make our job that much easier.
Pyschotika
02-04-2006, 19:36
boobs?
Moorington
02-04-2006, 19:44
OOC: Took the poll! After being on here for a week I thought it I had a good enough concept of the general nature of the RP, I was suprised on how many people picked horrible, since really what else were they looking for?*

IC:
To: Leaders Of The World
From: The Moorish Goverment of Afganistan

This second appeal to the great nations of the world will hopefully not go on deaf ears. Will you not send aid to the rebels, is there someone out there willing to give aid against our rebels. Is there someone out there willing to give weapons and aid? Or even to take a little territory away from the foes be-sieging my beatiful country? So please, help us to sustain our independence against Eurasian and Imperial forces.

In all due respect,
Maxen von Bismarck






*I personnally picked damn good.
Spizania
02-04-2006, 20:20
Whats happened? Did Panatheaa capitulate?
Bjornoya
02-04-2006, 20:25
@Moorington, thing that sucks is if someone offers to sell you military equiptment they will be viewed as a potential enemy of a lot of nations, but there is an ingenious economical oppurtunity here for arms manufacturers (I'm not)

Lay is making money off of selling Ottoman Khaif military equipment to be used in this campaign. In fact, if the war is over quickly, Lay could lose a lot of money to lost potential transactions with O.K.

Now if anyone were to sell you equipment and stood to make a profit of it, they would not only be making money, but prolonging the war by balancing the forces and could thus make more money due to more arms-sales.

And should that nation that sells you equipment secretly co-operate with the EOL to balance the supplies being shipped to both you and O.K. they could make the war last indefinetly and make a continuous profit!
Ottoman Khaif
02-04-2006, 20:42
Moorington- really dude, I am just confuse....I take it your fighting like rl Afghanistan in 1980s against the Soviets, if so do I assume that my forces have take over your section of Afghanistan cities and assume that your now just a group of rebel fighters....Because you have yet to show that you have even garrisons in your cities of somekind or reply to my bombing raids on your cities...please clear this up with Lay and me...because this rp is confusing...as is..
Neuvo Rica
02-04-2006, 20:49
Hello everyone.

I've noticed there's been a real scramble for my territories lately. Truth be told, I've been busy a lot lately (an excuse I've given countless times) and, perhaps more importantly, I have no idea of what I'm supposed to go with my nation. It's just seems that I have no real plans for any kind of RP and I feel that my nation has run it's course. Combine that with me paying more attention to my alt Veltmeria, and well...I don't post much anymore using this account.

It's pretty much pointless holding land that I will most likely never use for the next year, it seems, so therefore I have decided to relinquish all territorial holdings I have on Earth II and quit Earth II entirely. It's been an interesting 17 months or so and I've enjoyed my time here RPing. Thanks to everyone who's put up with my late posts and awful writing as well.

Enjoy the pickings from the former United Republics, and goodbye.

Sorry to see you go.
Hirgizstan
02-04-2006, 21:12
Spizania- Pantheaa capitulated ages ago, but for some reason he is sticking around. He is RPing the resistance, which is weird because we didn't ask him to.
There is no nation of Pantheaa anymore, just some rebels from the Armed Forces, which is what we're fighting now in Dammerung. And in Yemen and Kalmkyia, you guys have it easy as the population is cut off from the mainland, and in Yemen the population is not slavic.
RomeW
03-04-2006, 00:27
SHOCKING NEWS EVERYONE! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10677821#post10677821)

MORE SHOCKING NEWS EVERYONE! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10687182#post10687182)
RomeW
03-04-2006, 02:34
http://ca.news.yahoo.cbc.ca/cbc/s/02042006/3/canada-blast-toronto-doughnut-shop-kills-man.html

My goodness...I saw that and all I could think of was "I've been there!" Man, what do they put in those doughnuts...
Hawdawg
03-04-2006, 04:02
Attention:

For Sale, good used submarines. Yes come one come all kick the tires, the Holy Republic of Hawdawg is having a sale. We have two types of vessels on the auction block today. Both types are variants of the ever popular CSM Industries. The first item up for bids is Lot 1, (32) SSN-688I Los Angeles Class Nuclear Attack Submarines (orginal list price of 1.2 Billion USD). These vessels come fully loaded with all the goodies, complete with a fresh nuclear core and a full load of torpedoes. The next item for bid is Lot 2, (72) Dolphin II SSN's comes complete with new core, and full loaded (orginal price $4 Billion USD). Sorry each lot will be sold as a total group only, no splitting up the vessels. Highest bid wins.

Let the bidding commence.
Pantheaa
03-04-2006, 05:32
Spizania- Pantheaa capitulated ages ago, but for some reason he is sticking around. He is RPing the resistance, which is weird because we didn't ask him to.
There is no nation of Pantheaa anymore, just some rebels from the Armed Forces, which is what we're fighting now in Dammerung. And in Yemen and Kalmkyia, you guys have it easy as the population is cut off from the mainland, and in Yemen the population is not slavic.

Well once the war is over i plan to leave E2. But yeah im sticking around for some entertainment and to give people headaches

Don't worry Spizania i like you and will eventually give you Yemen
Hirgizstan
03-04-2006, 14:56
OOC: That maybe true Pantheaa, but because you capitulated we could ignore you.
Layarteb
03-04-2006, 15:22
OOC: That maybe true Pantheaa, but because you capitulated we could ignore you.

There will be no ignoring.
Bjornoya
03-04-2006, 15:59
Wait, is Pantheaa dead or not? I remember him trying to give away his land but since that was struck down does he still own the land?
Layarteb
03-04-2006, 16:04
Wait, is Pantheaa dead or not? I remember him trying to give away his land but since that was struck down does he still own the land?

technically, yes.
Bjornoya
03-04-2006, 16:14
Yes he's dead, or yes he owns the land?
Huahin
03-04-2006, 17:15
Back...yes I was away!
Hirgizstan
03-04-2006, 17:16
OOC: But if he's dead why is he here? I think most people, including me, involved in Op Dammerung think he gave up his land, and thus shouldn't be RPing. I'm tolerating it but he keeps OOC flaming at people, and his status is confused, for us anyway, because he said he gave up his claims.

I think we just need a bit of closure on this.
Pantheaa
03-04-2006, 17:31
I'll give up my claims but not to certain nations. So i would rather fight then hand them over to the enemy. Because Lay just invented a new rule after i died...i couldn't do that. If i had any knowledge of that rule before hand i would of never collapsed. I think i shouldn't been effected by it since i collapse before it was passed, but Lay is god though so oh well
Pyschotika
03-04-2006, 17:33
Boobs?
Rome West
03-04-2006, 18:58
Boobs?

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Pyschotika
03-04-2006, 20:40
Boobs.
Bjornoya
03-04-2006, 20:59
Boobs.

Yes, you'll start noticing them when you hit puberty, BTW how's that going for ya?
Hirgizstan
03-04-2006, 21:32
Hi-ooooo!
[NS]Kreynoria
03-04-2006, 22:13
Psychotika is a girl?
Cotland
03-04-2006, 22:18
Both sexes start noticing them, and what a frustrating time it is. So glad I'm through it now.
United States of Brink
04-04-2006, 00:42
SATO (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10693836#post10693836)

[ATTN] Bjorn, Hirg

PS: Not a war thread!
Layarteb
04-04-2006, 02:24
Why? Simple. You get invaded by Nations A - D but you are a jerk and don't want to RP so you ignore the invasion and give away the land to Nations J - K. Fair? No. Is it fair you got invaded? No. Is it okay to do that? Yes. Is it okay to godmod, ignore an invasion, and give away land being invaded to get yourself out of it? No it isn't.

Pantheaa you have 2 choices:

1. RP the invasion and lose if you want but at least acknowledge it and don't godmod by giving it away to random people because you don't like the people invading you.

2. Go the fuck away, don't come back, and the land goes BY DEFAULT to the nations invading you and you at least go out with some dignity and honor and at least you fought them on it.

Personally I like option 1 because it's much fairer than option 2 but in your infinite wisdom if you want to do option 2 then go ahead, be my guest but don't whine about it ever again.

You don't like your options? Too fucking bad.
Hawdawg
04-04-2006, 03:31
Wow!
Bjornoya
04-04-2006, 03:57
SATO (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10693836#post10693836)

[ATTN] Bjorn, Hirg

PS: Not a war thread!

Better not be! :p RC and TOA at war with any one nation would = many bad things

Dropped a line, we'll see what can be worked out.
Cymrea
04-04-2006, 06:53
Rome: I love you too, man. Happy NationDates! ;)

So no transfer and I don't get Yemen after all, huh? Crap. I wasn't gonna keep them, just make some trade and earn myself some bux or other, more usable land. Lay-ssez faire! :p

Spizania: Enjoy kicking the crap out of the Yemeni rebels! I may not get the country, but I'm taking this air freshener, so there. *SNIIIIIFFFFFFF* Ah!

Hirgy: Nevermind, I guess. :)


My trip was awesome, a great little break. I'm sorry I missed the April Fool's weirdness. Rome, I thought your post was hilarious. In Cymrea, it would've been sheep.
RomeW
04-04-2006, 07:16
Hi hi, hi ho, it's off to the playoffs we go! (whistles) Hi ho, hi ho, hi ho hi ho! (http://dgrants.blogspot.com/2006/04/hi-hi-hi-ho-its-off-to-playoffs-we-go.html)

Catchy little number isn't it? I'm probably the happiest guy in the world right now.

Cymrea: NationDates was funny- essentially it paired you up with a nation already in your region. I don't even think there was much of a formula to it- it was quite random.

Thank you for your appreciation of my joke. Yeah, a sheep would work too- I just think goats are funnier.
Pantheaa
04-04-2006, 12:38
Why? Simple. You get invaded by Nations A - D but you are a jerk and don't want to RP so you ignore the invasion and give away the land to Nations J - K. Fair? No. Is it fair you got invaded? No. Is it okay to do that? Yes. Is it okay to godmod, ignore an invasion, and give away land being invaded to get yourself out of it? No it isn't.

Pantheaa you have 2 choices:

1. RP the invasion and lose if you want but at least acknowledge it and don't godmod by giving it away to random people because you don't like the people invading you.

2. Go the fuck away, don't come back, and the land goes BY DEFAULT to the nations invading you and you at least go out with some dignity and honor and at least you fought them on it.

Personally I like option 1 because it's much fairer than option 2 but in your infinite wisdom if you want to do option 2 then go ahead, be my guest but don't whine about it ever again.

You don't like your options? Too fucking bad.

Huh so are you saying i have no chance of winning
The Lightning Star
04-04-2006, 13:02
Huh so are you saying i have no chance of winning

I wouldn't say you have no chance; plus Carthage is rather sympathetic to Pantheaa, so it's not like you're isolated. Carthage will throw in a good word to make sure Pantheaa isn't wiped off the map.
Hirgizstan
04-04-2006, 15:08
But he will be wiped off the map. Thats already been decided. No matter what happens in Op.Dammerung, Pantheaa is no more. His Government has already collapsed, the nation is crumbling and the people are being freed by invading forces. It would be silly to back a nation whose terrorist-rebels attack their own people for taking food and medecine from the liberators.

TLS, I've always held Carthage in high regard, you always stand up for yourself and don't take anything lying down (i.e. you don't take BS), but it would be foolish to voice support for Pantheaa. Besides, there's no Government left to support, only rebels, who are about to be re-branded as 'terrorists' by the COH. It would not look good for you, as an RC member to support terrorism.
Pantheaa
04-04-2006, 15:54
I choose option 3

Fight the allies, kick thier asses, then transfer your land
Pantheaa
04-04-2006, 16:31
Any nation that aids my armies and help fight off the imperalist COH gets first dips on my land after the war is over...think about it, Panthean rebels and you verse little COH. Its a made deal. Other then that im just giving it away to new nations after the war is over.
Pyschotika
04-04-2006, 17:14
Boobs.

( let me know if that is getting annoying, :-P )
Cotland
04-04-2006, 18:01
Pantheaa, youre worse than Pushka! I don't think you understand what it means to capitulate. It means that your government no longer exists and that you have no say in things. Your land will be conquered and taken by the invaders (read: us), not given away by you to anyone else. Now be silent before I bitchslap you.
Hirgizstan
04-04-2006, 18:03
There's always time for boobs.

Call me what you will Pantheaa, imperalist? No idea where you got that notion from. Whatever makes you happy.

No one is willing to step up to help you Pantheaa, because they're not just, then, helping you fight off me, they'd also be declaring war on NG, Cot and I dare say Spizania. No one really wants to do that.

There is no option three, you know, it reminds me of the film 'Welcome to the Jungle', where Sean William Scott chooses 'Option 3', even though there isn't one. Can you guess what happend to him?

Indeed, what Cotland says is true. You can no longer enter a diplomatic discourse with anyone, you can't have 'allies' or even 'enemies', as you don't have a Government or a nation of which to speak. You merely have a band of rebels that are being systematically quashed.
Now, be quiet before Cotland bitchslaps you for being Pushka's illegitimate child.
Pyschotika
04-04-2006, 18:22
Japan, as always, will welcome any Pantheaan refugees.

This does not mean Military support on behalf of the Pantheaan rebels, and all refugees who course their way into the Japanese Isles shall be watched a bit closer than the average Citizen. We hope this does not oust out the option of any Man, Woman, or Child who wishes to flee their war torn country. We just wish to take some minor precautions before allowing Pantheaans to apply for Citizenship amongst the Japanese.
RomeW
04-04-2006, 21:28
Huh so are you saying i have no chance of winning

You misread option 1:

1. RP the invasion and lose if you want but at least acknowledge it and don't godmod by giving it away to random people because you don't like the people invading you.

He's saying if you want to lose, you can, but you don't have to. He's not saying you have no chance- although you yourself are not giving yourself one.
N Germania
04-04-2006, 22:35
What's funny to me is that Pantheaa is all mad at COH when I started the invasion!
N Germania
04-04-2006, 22:37
LOLZOZLZOLZOLOLZOLZOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!11111one
RomeW
04-04-2006, 23:46
Hirgy's probably just the most visible one there...that's why he's getting such a bum rap.
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 00:19
What's funny to me is that Pantheaa is all mad at COH when I started the invasion!


You're part of the invasion...how
You're never online
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 00:49
Pantheaa, youre worse than Pushka! I don't think you understand what it means to capitulate. It means that your government no longer exists and that you have no say in things. Your land will be conquered and taken by the invaders (read: us), not given away by you to anyone else. Now be silent before I bitchslap you.


First of all
I transfered by lands before this rule was enacted. I should be immune to it..but if i knew that Lay wasn't going to let it fly I WOULD OF NEVER CAPITULATED

Second of all
Panthean was unstable to begin with, the generals wielded the greatest power of the all and IF YOU READ MY POST I GIVE HINTS OF POSSIABLE MILITARY COUPS!!! Therefore it doesn't matter if they capitualted are not

Third of all
The allies were the one who brought up the question if i was egiable to RP. So i don't know why im getting the bitch slapping from Lay. Frankly i don't care if im egliable or not as im already involved with other RP's.

Fourth of all
I don't care if anyone helps me, it just goes to show that only 7 out of the 60 some members of E2 are active. Yet another reason to leave this thing when im done. I'll pop in every now and then to see your exciting RP's on "Curing Aids" and "annual world research forum." Ohhhhhh fun RP's....not! This place is going to be boring without my threats. Im the E2 enemia...a shot in the ass, I am E2's LSD. I am E2's Trench coat mafia. Speaking of Pushka i miss him, he was another one that lively this place up...now he is gone
Funny how Tyrandis owns you all and never plays LOL

Who's the artsy anarchist
Who's the magic masochist
Who's the piggish postulator
Who's the anal agitator
Who's the heinous plagiarist
Who's the sexy satanist
Who's the cryptic constipator
Its Pantheaa thats who
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 01:01
I may not have exciting RPs, partly because the sophmoric imbeciles that read them cannot fathom the complexities of the human condition presented within and would preffer 'i killd j00!' 'nuhu I kild j00 more!' (BTW, your cheese contest thread was absolutely fascinating...) simplicity as it is the only concept their nihilistic, immature, plebian minds can grasp. I may not have exciting RPs, but at least I can spell.
RomeW
05-04-2006, 01:09
I may not have exciting RPs, partly because the sophmoric imbeciles that read them cannot fathom the complexities of the human condition presented within and would preffer 'i killd j00!' 'nuhu I kild j00 more!' (BTW, your cheese contest thread was absolutely fascinating...) simplicity as it is the only concept their nihilistic, immature, plebian minds can grasp. I may not have exciting RPs, but at least I can spell.

I think it's exciting. There's more to national RP's than just war.
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 01:12
I think it's exciting. There's more to national RP's than just war.

Thanks Rome, and keep those news updates coming so I can prolefeed more misinf to my masses ;)

BTW, if you got time was thinking the Patriarch and the Roman president (or emporer, or whoever's in charge) should probably meet to discuss politics, economics. smoothe out our differences, and the future of the R.C.
RomeW
05-04-2006, 01:23
Thanks Rome, and keep those news updates coming so I can prolefeed more misinf to my masses ;)

BTW, if you got time was thinking the Patriarch and the Roman president (or emporer, or whoever's in charge) should probably meet to discuss politics, economics. smoote out our differences, and the future of the R.C.

You're welcome. Not sure how many more "far out" news stories you'll get since that was an April Fool's Joke, but I'll try. ;)

'Tis the Roman Emperor- or Caesar, I should say. I think the best time to arrange such a meeting would be next week, when I'm done editing my essay.
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 01:39
Im not saying that only war RP's are exciting. A meeting between foreign delegates can be fun. But in E2 their is no rivalaries or no tensions. So it because boring really

Im dyslexic and plus i don't care if i spell right..unless you're giving me a grade for being on here i won't try'

Get me hooked up in the Godfather RP Brydog!!
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 02:21
Maybe Kreynoria and possibly Pacifinesia could intervene to support Pantheaa, thus finally starting our long-awaited world war. Seeing as we don't have much to fear from Tyrandis since he's never on, we could probably manage it. Of course, TOA will probably hand our asses to us, but it will be fun. We need to find a way to have a more fair way to have a world war. Maybe Marimaia and Psychotika could help is too, it would even the oods a tiny bit. BTW I fully support Pantheaa's ability to continue to RP, and am not impressed by Hirgz' brief resistance RPs.


Here's a cool new idea: D12/D8 invasions don't have a 100% chance of sucess. Some should fail.
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 02:22
Lol BTW I have a dyslexic neighbor. He also has an eye disorder so that he can't see transparent stuff. He walks into glass doors all the time, has trouble holding a glass, etc.
Layarteb
05-04-2006, 03:17
Kreynoria']Maybe Kreynoria and possibly Pacifinesia could intervene to support Pantheaa, thus finally starting our long-awaited world war. Seeing as we don't have much to fear from Tyrandis since he's never on, we could probably manage it. Of course, TOA will probably hand our asses to us, but it will be fun. We need to find a way to have a more fair way to have a world war. Maybe Marimaia and Psychotika could help is too, it would even the oods a tiny bit. BTW I fully support Pantheaa's ability to continue to RP, and am not impressed by Hirgz' brief resistance RPs.


Here's a cool new idea: D12/D8 invasions don't have a 100% chance of sucess. Some should fail.

Do you know how long I've been trying to push that?
Layarteb
05-04-2006, 03:19
I don't know if you guys know (i.e. those against Pantheaa) but if you lose the war you won't get the land.

And Panth, the rule did exist (no Godmodding or ignoring legit invasions)
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 04:20
Do you know how long I've been trying to push that?

But who would decide if the claim did or did not 'go through'? Randomly, or if another member RPs the deated nation's forces well enough? And if it failed would could you give it another shot after a while? (i.e. how would this work?)
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 04:24
I don't know if you guys know (i.e. those against Pantheaa) but if you lose the war you won't get the land.


So get your head outta your ass Pantheaa, stop with the OOC bitching and get your pathetic excuse for a nation in gear. Seeing as you are my adversary economically, ideologically, and politically I thoroughly enjoy fighting you ICly because I always know I can make you more foolish than even you can make yourself out to be.
Layarteb
05-04-2006, 04:34
But who would decide if the claim did or did not 'go through'? Randomly, or if another member RPs the deated nation's forces well enough? And if it failed would could you give it another shot after a while? (i.e. how would this work?)

The RP would be the judge of the initial outcome. Whether or not a second assault or rather offensive would come would be up to the parties involved. After a resounding defeat like that it would be pretty hard to push for another offensive and your supply lines would be stretched ass thin, morale would be shot, and casualties would be high. Possession is usually 9/10 of the law though but in those cases it would really be judged by the RP. Having someone RP the deleted nation is the best option I would agree.
Layarteb
05-04-2006, 04:38
Hi hi, hi ho, it's off to the playoffs we go! (whistles) Hi ho, hi ho, hi ho hi ho! (http://dgrants.blogspot.com/2006/04/hi-hi-hi-ho-its-off-to-playoffs-we-go.html)

Catchy little number isn't it? I'm probably the happiest guy in the world right now.

Cymrea: NationDates was funny- essentially it paired you up with a nation already in your region. I don't even think there was much of a formula to it- it was quite random.

Thank you for your appreciation of my joke. Yeah, a sheep would work too- I just think goats are funnier.

Right you are.
Pyschotika
05-04-2006, 04:49
!!!BOOOO...BIESSSS!!!

Is Panth gone yet?
RomeW
05-04-2006, 06:50
The RP would be the judge of the initial outcome. Whether or not a second assault or rather offensive would come would be up to the parties involved. After a resounding defeat like that it would be pretty hard to push for another offensive and your supply lines would be stretched ass thin, morale would be shot, and casualties would be high. Possession is usually 9/10 of the law though but in those cases it would really be judged by the RP. Having someone RP the deleted nation is the best option I would agree.

I doubt many people are going to go for the idea of the claim "not going through". I know realistically not every invasion- no matter how one-sided- will work, but I know that when I make a D12 claim, I fully intend on keeping it, and I don't think I'd ever want to let the other guy win and I don't believe it'd be fair to me to make me do otherwise. D8...that's a different matter, since I'd be engaging an active country and thus *could* lose.

As far as the Pantheaan thing goes- I feel like getting involved on the Pantheaan side, but not with Rome itself, since I have good relations with TOA. My new Greek territories can be transformed into a seperate "rebel" state that can intervene on the Pantheaan side without drawing Rome onto "the wrong side". Thoughts?
Cotland
05-04-2006, 08:06
Sounds like a plan. Still waiting for Sparta to give me permission to move the bulk of my armor through his territory from Chechnya so that I can pwn whatever forces Panth has left in Kalmykia (which is where I'm concentrating all my forces)...
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 08:32
As far as the Pantheaan thing goes- I feel like getting involved on the Pantheaan side, but not with Rome itself, since I have good relations with TOA. My new Greek territories can be transformed into a seperate "rebel" state that can intervene on the Pantheaan side without drawing Rome onto "the wrong side". Thoughts?

Would make for a much better RP, though you might worry about others trying to take Greece itself.

Will make a worthy post hopefully tomorrow describing Visara's intentions in the region.
RomeW
05-04-2006, 08:40
Would make for a much better RP, though you might worry about others trying to take Greece itself.

I'd probably make it VERY clear that Greece gets returned back to me when the ordeal is finished- I may even bring the Romans themselves against the rebel state just to make sure (I do know I want to involve breakaway Italian regions in this too).
Cymrea
05-04-2006, 10:34
Ooh, ooh. If ever there was a reason for me to get off my duff and organize the Cymrean military already, it would be a juicy conflict. It's been a few weeks since my last update, so I have a few years' worth of military construction finished. Cymrea's military isn't large, but it is effective for smaller operations within the greater strategies.

Cymrea stands ready to answer Caesar's call.
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 15:25
So get your head outta your ass Pantheaa, stop with the OOC bitching and get your pathetic excuse for a nation in gear. Seeing as you are my adversary economically, ideologically, and politically I thoroughly enjoy fighting you ICly because I always know I can make you more foolish than even you can make yourself out to be. It's idiots like you that make me appear twice as genius as I really am.

Yes i love the decree that says that i have to be mature but Bjornoya can act like an ass

Sounds like a plan. Still waiting for Sparta to give me permission to move the bulk of my armor through his territory from Chechnya so that I can pwn whatever forces Panth has left in Kalmykia (which is where I'm concentrating all my forces)...

Have fun in Kalmykia...thats where i built the Panthean disneyland


Here's a cool new idea: D12/D8 invasions don't have a 100% chance of sucess. Some should fail.

Nice idea but it will probably never work


Sounds like a plan. Still waiting for Sparta to give me permission to move the bulk of my armor through his territory from Chechnya so that I can pwn whatever forces Panth has left in Kalmykia (which is where I'm concentrating all my forces)...

Just go through his territories he is never on..his fault not yours. His forces are sleeping and you can storm right by them and by the time he actually does log on all of your forces will be in Kalm
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 16:31
Yes i love the decree that says that i have to be mature but Bjornoya can act like an ass


I try to use language you can comprehend when addressing you...

BTW Panth, why the fuck would anyone be stupid enough to attend school at a time like this in your nation?
Hirgizstan
05-04-2006, 17:15
Indeed, I found that kinda strange. I assumed he did it because in the occupied regions I have begun reconstruction and normalisation efforts. I think it was an ok RP, but it can't happen in Orenburg or Kalm, as there are still major combat operations there.
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 17:16
Panth, if you RP your citizens believing anything they hear on the radio, or from rebels, or from people with guns then I shall RP your people that way as well.
Hirgizstan
05-04-2006, 17:26
LMAO, indeed.

'...Welcome to Tambov News Station...today's top story...[insert idiocy here].'
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 18:07
IC-

Message to the world community from the Resistance…

I already have a heads up in the new headlines that will air and be publish in pro-rebel radio, newspapers and internet sites. The headline will show Wilhaum Kaufman with his smug smile and 1000 dollar suit giving his address to the Visera employees at a lavish 200 dollar plate dinner. The headline will quote some of Kaufman’s finer points that the people of pantheaan need allied aid in rebuilding and replanning their shattered lives. Then next to his smug face will be a smuggled picture of North Germania troops EXECUTING innocent Pantheans in the streets of Kursk. The headline will naturally read LIARS!!!!

Make no mistake the resistance is growing everyday. Despite the propaganda from traitor Panthean newspapers and COH imperial media. With each news of new genocide in the Republic comes new recruits to fight the good fight. With each carpert bomb and bullet to the face comes a new face to the resistance. And to think if it wasn’t for the Germanais and the Norwegians THIS WAR WOULD PROBABLY BE OVER ALREADY!! We are cut off from Kalmkiya rebels and that area is doomed. But the other territories are fighting the imperialist with sticks, stones, guns and bombs.

These allies intention was to “liberate the Panthean people from its evil government.” In the North Germania dictionary liberate is just a fancy word for death!

For every dead Panthean civilian that has been executed, for every Panthean civilian that has been charred by Norwegian bombs we will repay in blood. Not till an equal amount of allied troops are dead will we lay down our arms.

You will pay with your crimes with the blood of your innocent and the blood of your military.

Till our dieing breath…..
The Panthean Liberation Army (PLA)


OOC- and just for the record im refering to this part of NG's RP which executed children and woman non who have been apart of the Panthean rebellion


By far, the OS were the soldiers that the Pantheaan civilians had to fear most. It was their creed to never take prisoners, especially people were not considered "Volksdeutsche". Countless executions of men, women, and children occured in the streets of Kursk. It was estimated that by now, over 1.300 Pantheaan civilians alone had been executed by the OS.

Not Volksasdfawefa sounds Nazish to me
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 18:10
I try to use language you can comprehend when addressing you...

I mean you're too stupid to understand anything else.
BTW Panth, why the fuck would anyone be stupid enough to attend school at a time like this in your nation?


OOC- i signed up for school before i was involved in E2
im not dropping out of school to play pretend army. No that is more important to me and half of that is the reason why i tried to bolt during the invasion cause my time is already pressed

So are you violated the decree that says that your suppose to act mature again Bjor.

You know what FUCK YOU, don't get on my ass cuz you thought the war was going to be a push over and not everything is going as planned. For now im just going to ignore all of your RPing in opertion dumbag or whatever the fuck its called. I refuse to RP with this person. I refuse to RP with a person that will not honor the decree



Panth, if you RP your citizens believing anything they hear on the radio, or from rebels, or from people with guns then I shall RP your people that way as well.

ooc-
You will just god mod and say that they welcomed the invasion DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEIR ARE ALREADY MILLIONS OF DEAD BECAUSE OF COTLAND AND NG GENOCIDE! Tell me why would the people welcome an invasion force that is killing them? Thats like welcoming a murderer into your home.

Someone can RP my people yes...but not you cause you are allied with the invasion and will be bias toward invasion goals. Its god moding

The point is that im trying to make with my resistance networks is that we were told that we were being liberated yet Pantheans are being bombed and killed as if they were a sick dog...you're just embrassed that you and your butt buddies have be caught lying and now have no way out of it
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 18:42
Your people's best bet for getting my land is to end the war and let me transfer my land. Then make deals with those i hand them too
But other then that grab the advil cause im hear to give the invaders a headache
Rome West
05-04-2006, 19:12
Not Volksasdfawefa sounds Nazish to me

I could be wrong (as I am not great in German) but I think "Volksdeutsche" means "German people". Just because it's in German does not mean it's a Nazi expression.
Cymrea
05-04-2006, 19:33
Yeah, but Fahrfegnugen is totally Nazi! :p
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 19:47
I could be wrong (as I am not great in German) but I think "Volksdeutsche" means "German people". Just because it's in German does not mean it's a Nazi expression.

Yeah, Nazi europe considered the German as the supermen of Europe. Which is why they forced poles and other lesser european races to work in labor camps. Case in point the former pope who was force to work in a salt mine during the German occupation
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 19:50
*snip*

Decree 6? Oh, I'm sorry did I offend you? How about a deal, you shut the fuck up with

1) bitching about your condition

and

2) insulting my RPing abilities

get on with the RP and I'll stop with my OOC comments, deal? If you don't wanna RP with me or others the door's still wide open...

As soon as you realize you brought this upon yourself maybe you can get out of this honorably, but considering your actions both recent and in the past have been a mockery of the rules (Bouvet) or a constant, unintelligible complaint about them (i.e. everytime you missed a land grab) I have no sympathy for you anymore. Really, I tried to help, I even gave you opportunities to make yourself a more likeable nation, not that you took any notice because the only things that you notice are how horrible everything is. Re-read Wilhelms' speech, it was more than an indictment against Pantheaa as a nation.

Visara does not equal TOA, and Wilhelm expressed genuine concern over the well-being of Pantheaan citizens. Why do I think Pantheaans will surrender to Visara willingly and not to others? Most importantly we're about the only group of people in the region not killing them. I never said they had to like Visara, they just have to like it more than any other alternatives.
Hirgizstan
05-04-2006, 20:31
OOC: I also have not laid a hand on a Pantheaan civilian that was not guilty of terrorism. And neither has NG. It might be hard for your to fathom this, but you RP'd that men, women and children were the new rebels, thus NG killed them. He didn't mention anything about 'innocent' civilians. Heck, I just RP'd a bunch of the armed 'men, women and children' trying to kill COH soldiers and I killed two men and the rest fled- I could have killed them all, as they were all guilty of terrorism- but I didn't- showed mercy. NG didn't, and nor will I if you continue to cowardly use men, women and children as your rebels.

Also, Bjorn is perhaps one of the best RPers on E2, he is able to point out such RP technicalities that others would not pick up on, and indeed he did so in the case of Tyrandis- much to Bjorn's credit, at least in my eyes. Whereas Pantheaa, your RP skills remind me of some of the lesser RPers I have come across, dyslexic or not.

IC:

World Broadcast-

HIRGIZSTANIAN NEWS CORP

'Today in an elementary school in southern Voronezh, four armed 'rebels' assaulted numerous classrooms, killing over 30 pupils, 13 teachers and a 2 man camera crew from Voronezh city, filming Hirgizstanian reconstruction efforts. The assault was caught on camera by the film crew and the bodies of the four rebels were found some hours later in a forest near the school. They had each suffered wounds to the neck and legs, and had bled to death before being found. The men were identified as former policemen from the main city. Their clothing and weaponry suggest they belonged to a rebel formation operating in the area near the school.

Radio and newspaper reports from pro-rebel groups tried to pass the assault off as a massacre by COH troops, but since the video has been released there has been uproar in Voronezh and other regions. Civilians have responded to the rewards being handed out for bringing in rebels or information on their whereabouts. Despite the rebel propaganda, the real civilians in the former nation of Pantheaa, are turning against the rebels and their brutal tactics.

The COH Government also announced today, after video of the school massacre was released to the press, that the Pantheaan Liberation Army and its affiliates will be rebranded as 'terrorists'. The Fuhrer also made a personal plea to allied and foreign nations to do the same.

There have also been reports, some video and photographs of other massacres by the terrorists in smaller towns across the allied occupied regions. In the worst atrocity of the war a rebel group killed 25 civilians, and injured 32 more, who were waiting in line for medical supplies at a supply centre in Tambov earlier this week.

Serious military operations in five regions have been successfully concluded and the situation in Orenburg is going well as COH forces have already captured Buzuluk.'
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 21:56
Will Bjorn and Panth please STFU. Cut the cussing, or bring it all on Lay's forum. Lol this is why our main thread's 800 pages long: 750 pages of flaming, 40 pages of STFU, and 10 pages of actual stuff. Lol.

Hirg, your claim about never killing a civilian is bullshit. They are impossible to tell apart from rebels. You will have to have killed a bunch, inadvertently.

Pantheaa, Bjorn wasn't talking about YOU going to school, he's talking about the kids that got massacred.
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 22:03
Decree 6? Oh, I'm sorry did I offend you? How about a deal, you shut the fuck up with

1) bitching about your condition

and

2) insulting my RPing abilities



Correct i bitch about my condition...but where did i insult your RPing


OOC: I also have not laid a hand on a Pantheaan civilian that was not guilty of terrorism. And neither has NG. It might be hard for your to fathom this, but you RP'd that men, women and children were the new rebels, thus NG killed them. He didn't mention anything about 'innocent' civilians. Heck, I just RP'd a bunch of the armed 'men, women and children' trying to kill COH soldiers and I killed two men and the rest fled- I could have killed them all, as they were all guilty of terrorism- but I didn't- showed mercy. NG didn't, and nor will I if you continue to cowardly use men, women and children as your rebels.

Wrong again
The armed rebels with woman and children happened AFTER the NG genocide. And the rebels are using them as human shields...why because if their is one thing i've learned is that your are willing to kill woman and children in your attempt to "liberate" the Panthean people. I never said that woman and children were the new rebels

I agree im not good at pretending army. Im not good at RPing correct...
But unlike 60% of E2 at least i RP

I don't RP much so im not good at that. I agree you are better then me at it. Im more focus on other entertainment and school to tell you the truth. I was more better at RPing when i first started but not as much now. Plus its impossiable to RP with you cause you have the godlike army that only takes 3casualties while im taking 2341234 died. How can i RP against that. You haven't lost a single battle yet nor will you. Yet im accused of god moding, so i have no motive to write a good RP...nor am i benefiting out of RPing cause im still getting invaded.

Second of all besides my busy schedule i have at least 5 fronts to fight on. And last of all my RP's are the same length of my enemies RP's are i try to make them that is
North Germania on the other hand writes 7 sentence RP's and you considered him a good Rper?
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 22:04
Decree 6? Oh, I'm sorry did I offend you? How about a deal, you shut the fuck up with

1) bitching about your condition

and

2) insulting my RPing abilities



Correct i bitch about my condition...but where did i insult your RPing


OOC: I also have not laid a hand on a Pantheaan civilian that was not guilty of terrorism. And neither has NG. It might be hard for your to fathom this, but you RP'd that men, women and children were the new rebels, thus NG killed them. He didn't mention anything about 'innocent' civilians. Heck, I just RP'd a bunch of the armed 'men, women and children' trying to kill COH soldiers and I killed two men and the rest fled- I could have killed them all, as they were all guilty of terrorism- but I didn't- showed mercy. NG didn't, and nor will I if you continue to cowardly use men, women and children as your rebels.

Wrong again
The armed rebels with woman and children happened AFTER the NG genocide. And the rebels are using them as human shields...why because if their is one thing i've learned is that your are willing to kill woman and children in your attempt to "liberate" the Panthean people. Its like Black Hawk down when the skinnies were marching to the downed blackhawk in a crowd of woman and children...same thing here. I never said that woman and children were the new rebels. Find the post that says that they are the new rebels and i will concede this statement

I agree im not good at pretending army. Im not good at RPing correct...
But unlike 60% of E2 at least i RP

I don't RP much so im not good at that. I agree you are better then me at it. Im more focus on other entertainment and school to tell you the truth. I was more better at RPing when i first started but not as much now. Plus its impossiable to RP with you cause you have the godlike army that only takes 3 casualties while im taking 2341234 died. How can i RP against that. You haven't lost a single battle yet nor will you. Yet im accused of god moding, so i have no motive to write a good RP...nor am i benefiting out of RPing cause im still getting invaded which seems to be a life sentence with no prole. My rp in operation Deja Vu is probably my best although is stopped early because i didn't want to fight USB who i consider a friend

Second of all besides my busy schedule i have at least 5 fronts to fight on. And last of all my RP's are the same length of my enemies RP's are i try to make them that is
North Germania on the other hand writes 7 sentence RP's and you considered him a good Rper? His RP's are extremly vague and lacking
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 22:21
And the whole thing with Bouvet i was actually just kinding when i said "BS that island belongs to me"...i don't care much about a giant ice cube. But Lay accepted it as legit and when i saw that i cracked up. LOL
Cotland
05-04-2006, 22:29
Pantheaa, just for the record: I have never used the excuse of liberating Pantheaa as justification of going into Kalmykia. I have never said that I'm liberating the area, nor will I. Do not use the "you lied about liberating Pantheaa" rant against me, because quite frankly, I'm too tired from school and work to respond in a friendly tone. My forces are moving into Kalmykia due to strategic long-term reasons, and are ordered to stomp out any resistance whereever it may be found. The population of Cotland has not yet recieved any official confirmation of the invasion of Kalmykia, so all they've been hearing is hear-say from foreign sources, most are Panthean which they won't believe due to the Cottish belief that Pantheaa is not a real state [we haven't recognized you as a sovereign nation-state ICly] but rather a terrorist nation. Thus, most Cots will agree with the invasion when the Government announces it, which will happen either tonight or tommorrow.

We are cut off from Kalmkiya rebels and that area is doomed.
After having read this, I shall assume that you have completely given up on Kalmykia. Rest assured that the army shall meet resistance, but rest equally assured that it [the resistance] shall not live for too long after appearing.

And last of all my RP's are the same length of my enemies RP's are i try to make them that is
I call BS [check post #68 in the thread].



Oh, and one last thing. Stop with the f***ign cursing/flaming! That goes for both Pantheaa and Bjorn!
Pantheaa
05-04-2006, 22:43
Pantheaa, just for the record: I have never used the excuse of liberating Pantheaa as justification of going into Kalmykia. I have never said that I'm liberating the area, nor will I. Do not use the "you lied about liberating Pantheaa" rant against me, because quite frankly, I'm too tired from school and work to respond in a friendly tone. My forces are moving into Kalmykia due to strategic long-term reasons, and are ordered to stomp out any resistance whereever it may be found. The population of Cotland has not yet recieved any official confirmation of the invasion of Kalmykia, so all they've been hearing is hear-say from foreign sources, most are Panthean which they won't believe due to the Cottish belief that Pantheaa is not a real state [we haven't recognized you as a sovereign nation-state ICly] but rather a terrorist nation. Thus, most Cots will agree with the invasion when the Government announces it, which will happen either tonight or tommorrow.


After having read this, I shall assume that you have completely given up on Kalmykia. Rest assured that the army shall meet resistance, but rest equally assured that it [the resistance] shall not live for too long after appearing.


I call BS [check post #68 in the thread].



Oh, and one last thing. Stop with the f***ign cursing/flaming! That goes for both Pantheaa and Bjorn!

Ok i agree, but NG's main speech in the first post of Operation Dum said that he was going into Panthean to end the tyrannical reign of a government and to reunite the people with the NG. When he finally gets into Kursk, he kills civilians.

Then i get even more confused with Hawdawg's response which states

"The Holy Republic of Hawdawg is delighted the Fourth Reich has taken it upon themselves to end the starvation and suffering of the People of Pantheaa. For far to long the Nation State has been supressing the will of the people. The most recent actions against the BISE by the Pantheaan Government shows they wish to force there will on the rest of the world. We appauld the actions of the Fuhrer and pledge our support for the cause."

So im thinking...
invasion=liberation

Sorry to sound like an ass...
but it looks like you guys needed to plan this more. Cuz im having trouble knowing if this is a war for liberation or a war for genocide.
Finally the reason why your getting blamed for it is simply cause you are part of the invasion and allied with North Germania


After having read this, I shall assume that you have completely given up on Kalmykia. Rest assured that the army shall meet resistance, but rest equally assured that it [the resistance] shall not live for too long after appearing.

Yep

Yeah post 68# was like a book or something granted i said i "try" to post in equal length. But crap it would take me all day to write that much
RomeW
05-04-2006, 22:50
Something tells me that Dammerung may not be something I want to get involved in...
Layarteb
05-04-2006, 22:51
EVERY ONE KNOCK IT THE HELL OFF AND GO TO THE OOC FORUMS BEFORE I BEGIN TO ASK THE MODS TO WARN YOU OFFICIALLY AND REMOVE YOUR POSTS.
RomeW
05-04-2006, 22:54
EVERY ONE KNOCK IT THE HELL OFF AND GO TO THE OOC FORUMS BEFORE I BEGIN TO ASK THE MODS TO WARN YOU OFFICIALLY AND REMOVE YOUR POSTS.
I second this. Really guys, this is getting ridiculous.
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 22:54
Seriously. If you guys proceed to wipe Pantheaa out I will give him land, I will take his refugees, I will shelter his generals/resistance leaders. I don't want him wiped out. You TOA people seem to think everything you do is justified by "long-term strategic planning" and "maintaining the status quo." Seriously, I would go to war with you but unfortunately there is Tyrandis and I would get wiped out immediately if I fought you. Too bad Pantheaa isn't a rallying point like Poland was. Maybe we could have the RC and Pacifinesia and Pantheaan resistance against TOA. That might be fun. But of course, no one wants to do that.
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 22:57
Why don't you guys treat Dammerung like a serious RP and post losses and other stuff. Frankly, I'm sick of you winning all the battles and having something to counter everything Pantheaa throws at you. Why don't you actually have Pantheaa's resistance causing you some trouble?
Cotland
05-04-2006, 22:57
Tyrandis is not a member of the OA.
Hawdawg
05-04-2006, 22:58
I am in agreement with RomeW and Layarteb on this. See five posts above.

-Hawdawg
[NS]Kreynoria
05-04-2006, 22:59
I was aware of that fact. Tyrandis is supposed to be fighting a war against Pacifinesia but unfortunately he has yet to make even a short OOC post saying he can't RP at the moment.
Ottoman Khaif
05-04-2006, 23:05
Ok, If moonington doesn't start posting in the Afghan thead like in three days...I will occpy his lands and have someone else rp as the rebels... I am tired of waiting ..and when he does post..it has nothing with the rp...now....with that out of the way...guys you need to chill the fuck out...or the mods will come and get you..
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 23:08
As I said before my original intent was not to remove Pantheaa from E2, but make sure he causes Bjornoya no problems in the future.

My insults and ooc rants have in the past and now been a means to an ends. Pantheaa states his only reason for doing the RP, or for trying to give awat his land before to avoid the invasion was to piss people off. My response? Piss him off more. I win.

Now seeing as he will be leaving I have accomplished my objective, but not the way I intended. Pantheaa, I admit it I intentionally got you riled-up in hopes that you would use that given energy input in the RP, but it has instead cause more ooc bickering which in retrospect is what always happens, so mostly my bad, but do not insult my RPs again, and please read through what I hvae written so nothing Visara does is misinterpretted.
Moorington
05-04-2006, 23:13
EVERY ONE KNOCK IT THE HELL OFF AND GO TO THE OOC FORUMS BEFORE I BEGIN TO ASK THE MODS TO WARN YOU OFFICIALLY AND REMOVE YOUR POSTS.

Got to say, I second this too.


Ok, If moonington doesn't start posting in the Afghan thead like in three days...I will occpy his lands and have someone else rp as the rebels... I am tired of waiting ..and when he does post..it has nothing with the rp

Sorry, an invasion of my region has not gotten along so well, had to deal with it and sorry again for making you wait.
Bjornoya
05-04-2006, 23:19
Correct i bitch about my condition...but where did i insult your RPing

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10700431&postcount=12066

I'll pay more attention to wording my posts if you do the same.

BTW its Wilhelm Kaufmann and Visara, not Wilhaum Kaufman or Visera.

Self-censored my previous posts to make more 'clean' while still getting my point across
RomeW
05-04-2006, 23:19
Kreynoria']Seriously. If you guys proceed to wipe Pantheaa out I will give him land, I will take his refugees, I will shelter his generals/resistance leaders. I don't want him wiped out. You TOA people seem to think everything you do is justified by "long-term strategic planning" and "maintaining the status quo." Seriously, I would go to war with you but unfortunately there is Tyrandis and I would get wiped out immediately if I fought you. Too bad Pantheaa isn't a rallying point like Poland was. Maybe we could have the RC and Pacifinesia and Pantheaan resistance against TOA. That might be fun. But of course, no one wants to do that.

I intend on getting involved with the Greeks, not with my main nation. Rome itself has too friendly relations with The October Alliance to go to war with them, plus it's not in Rome's nature to get involved in affairs that don't pertain to us, really. I also didn't set up the Roman Confederacy as an "offensive" alliance- we're an alliance that promotes peace and democracy. War is not within our vocabulary.

Kreynoria']Why don't you guys treat Dammerung like a serious RP and post losses and other stuff. Frankly, I'm sick of you winning all the battles and having something to counter everything Pantheaa throws at you. Why don't you actually have Pantheaa's resistance causing you some trouble?

I haven't read Dammerung too deeply, but it's to my knowledge that Pantheaa's just rolling over and dying in this one. He's not putting up much of a fight.

Of course, I may need to take a second look, as that's just a cursory judgement. Anyone want to back up or refute what I said?
Moorington
05-04-2006, 23:30
I haven't read Dammerung too deeply, but it's to my knowledge that Pantheaa's just rolling over and dying in this one. He's not putting up much of a fight.

Of course, I may need to take a second look, as that's just a cursory judgement. Anyone want to back up or refute what I said?

He seems to be putting most if not all of his energy into blasting away at whoever.
RomeW
05-04-2006, 23:34
He seems to be putting most if not all of his energy into blasting away at whoever.

I don't follow.
Moorington
05-04-2006, 23:44
I don't follow.

Instead of RPing the fight like a real good person he is just sitting down, crying, and cussing away at really everyone and anyone. Well except me....
RomeW
05-04-2006, 23:47
Instead of RPing the fight like a real good person he is just sitting down, crying, and cussing away at really everyone and anyone. Well except me....

I thought you were saying that he was actually fighting...yeah, all I see is OOC flames too.
Moorington
05-04-2006, 23:51
I thought you were saying that he was actually fighting...yeah, all I see is OOC flames too.

You thought that I thought that Panthe was actually... (drum roll please)
Playing! No, you go to far, if you wanted to be an comedian you will make big bucks!

No wait, you thought I was serious? Well just fro the record Panthea should get in there and RP something as good as post 68 (was that the number).
RomeW
06-04-2006, 00:01
You thought that I thought that Panthe was actually... (drum roll please)
Playing! No, you go to far, if you wanted to be an comedian you will make big bucks!

No wait, you thought I was serious? Well just fro the record Panthea should get in there and RP something as good as post 68 (was that the number).

That wasn't supposed to be an attempt at mockery...I just saw you saying he was "blasting away" and I thought you were suggesting armed resistance. Just an oversight really. :S
United States of Brink
06-04-2006, 00:45
Bjorn, just waiting for a reply on Sato, me and hirg are good to go.
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 00:54
Bjorn, just waiting for a reply on Sato, me and hirg are good to go.

As soon as I'm done insulting a person prbly 2/3 my age, jeez can't you tell I'm busy!
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 04:36
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10706815&postcount=79

I scored a 9.8, will be 10.3 when I get un-sick but I doubt they would keep me even then...
Ottoman Khaif
06-04-2006, 04:49
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10706815&postcount=79

I scored a 9.8, will be 10.3 when I get better but I doubt they would keep me...

My god..you sick son of bitch...you put a point system to decide which people get to live or died...your a genius..If you and me worked together in real world...we shall be unstopped in our mad Mr.Burns like conquest of the world in the seach of power..MUHEHAHAHAHAHEHAHAHEHE....I scare myself at times..
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 04:51
My god..you sick son of bitch...you put a point system to decide which people get to live or died...your a genius..If you and me worked together in real world...we shall be unstopped in our mad Mr.Burns like conquer of the world in the seach of power..MUHEHAHAHAHAHEHAHAHEHE....I scare myself at times..

Oh no, we won't kill the undesireables, no far worse...

they're going to Japan!

Thanks, I like the system and funny enough see some of it coming into our own society.
Ottoman Khaif
06-04-2006, 04:53
Oh no, we won't kill the undesireables, no far worse...

there going to Japan!

Thanks, I like the system and funny enough see some of it coming into our own society.
Go to Japan....bah.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 05:02
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10706815&postcount=79

I scored a 9.8, will be 10.3 when I get un-sick but I doubt they would keep me even then...

What's the point threshold? Also, I don't know how you can adequately acquire a score if all the categories are not listed. I also don't see "University Student" listed anywhere.
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 05:13
What's the point threshold? Also, I don't know how you can adequately acquire a score if all the categories are not listed.

Putting every category in age, sex, occupation, and disease let alone the other factors I did not numeratem that would have taken forever, I'm guessing I missed an occupation? If its not scientific or engineering related its negative generally.

Goal would be to keep above a certain average (prbly 12ish) with 10 breaking even and below that being a loss.

EDIT: University Students would be judged according to their major and grades.

80% what the proffession of the degree would be (i.e chemistry major=chemists=5*.8=4)

Grades: A average= +10%, B = +0%, C= -15%

something like that...

depending on mindset of the university (liberal or conservative tendencies, what it specializes in etc. would contribute)
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 05:17
Go to Japan....bah.

Bjornoyans never kill, we merely re-organize.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 05:35
Putting every category in age, sex, occupation, and disease let alone the other factors I did not numeratem that would have taken forever, I'm guessing I missed an occupation? If its not scientific or engineering related its negative generally.

Goal would be to keep above a certain average (prbly 12ish) with 10 breaking even and below that being a loss.

EDIT: University Students would be judged according to their major and grades.

80% what the proffession of the degree would be (i.e chemistry major=chemists=5*.8=4)

Grades: A average= +10%, B = +0%, C= -15%

something like that...

depending on mindset of the university (liberal or conservative tendencies, what it specializes in etc. would contribute)

Well, I'm a History major at York University with a solid B average. Don't think I've raised my score much.

Let's see...I was born in Montreal, am not religious and raised in pretty comfortable conditions, though I moved often. I believe I'm psychologically sound. I'm predicting my score would be 5.3 (the score I got from what I could calculate was 4.3).

I also think you're undervaluing the services of scholars. You're going to need people educated enough to run things, won't you?
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 05:38
We do value scholars, we hold them in very high esteem. We value Bjornoyan scholars...

Because of their Pantheaan background we decreased certain occupations: teachers, proffesors, police, and politicians are bound to believe Pantheaan ideology especially in a communist (or once communist) country which is undesirable, but just cuz we don't value Pantheaan teachers, proffesors, police and politicians doesn't mean we don't value any teachers, proffesors, police, and politicains.

The people with highest ratings do valuable jobs without requiring much thought as to what ends they are doing it for (manual laborers, engineers, scientists)
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 05:53
The COH Government also announced today, after video of the school massacre was released to the press, that the Pantheaan Liberation Army and its affiliates will be rebranded as 'terrorists'. The Fuhrer also made a personal plea to allied and foreign nations to do the same.


Consider it done ICly
RomeW
06-04-2006, 05:53
We do value scholars, we hold them in very high esteem. We value Bjornoyan scholars...

Because of their Pantheaan background we decreased certain occupations: teachers, proffesors, police, and politicians are bound to believe Pantheaan ideology especially in a communist (or once communist) country which is undesirable, but just cuz we don't value Pantheaan teachers, proffesors, police and politicians doesn't mean we don't value any teachers, proffesors, police, and politicains.

The people with highest ratings do valuable jobs without requiring much thought as to what ends they are doing it for (manual laborers, engineers, scientists)

What if you get a Pantheaan capitalist scholar? Will you keep them?

I'd also like to know if I'm bang-on with my score. I'm trying to figure it out...
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 06:04
Well, I'm a History major at York University with a solid B average. Don't think I've raised my score much.

Let's see...I was born in Montreal, am not religious and raised in pretty comfortable conditions, though I moved often. I believe I'm psychologically sound. I'm predicting my score would be 5.3 (the score I got from what I could calculate was 4.3).


What if you get a Pantheaan capitalist scholar? Will you keep them?

I'd also like to know if I'm bang-on with my score. I'm trying to figure it out...

Yeah, but considering Pantheaa was a communist nation most of them would have been run out.

On your score, I'm afraid it would be low as a Pantheaan history major would presumably have been 'infected' with a Pantheaan ideological twist on the subject, which would label you as a potential threat to the corporation (take pride).

I had 10 (base) + -2.0 (21 years) + 5 Chemist (major) + -1.2 Teacher (occupation in like 3 or 4 years) -.5 general non-lethal, recoverable sickness= 11.3, ooh a point up! (must miscalculated)

as you can see the occupation sector is very loose how I'm using it, but I know more about myself than I could about a Pantheaan citizen and must use more general stereotypes.
Pantheaa
06-04-2006, 06:26
Yeah, but considering Pantheaa was a communist nation most of them would have been run out.

My country was capitalist. The communist reign ended long ago when Bouvet was invaded. Like i said i had stocks in BISE..thats capitalism
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 06:30
My country was capitalist. The communist reign ended long ago when Bouvet was invaded. Like i said i had stocks in BISE..thats capitalism

But your nation has had a long history of communism, so the capitalist minded people would either have been rebels against the communist regime, in their 20s or 30s, or just starting up businesses all of which both would decrease their value to Visara...
RomeW
06-04-2006, 06:34
Yeah, but considering Pantheaa was a communist nation most of them would have been run out.

On your score, I'm afraid it would be low as a Pantheaan history major would presumably have been 'infected' with a Pantheaan ideological twist on the subject, which would label you as a potential threat to the corporation (take pride).

I had 10 (base) + -2.0 (21 years) + 5 Chemist (major) + -1.2 Teacher (occupation in like 3 or 4 years) -.5 general non-lethal, recoverable sickness= 11.3, ooh a point up! (must miscalculated)

as you can see the occupation sector is very loose how I'm using it, but I know more about myself than I could about a Pantheaan citizen and must use more general stereotypes.

Go me! Although I'm in RL not exactly the hardcore "anti-corporate"-type, though I count myself as "liberal".

11.3 seems right...wait a minute, you're not skewing these things to get yourself saved, are you? :p
Pantheaa
06-04-2006, 06:38
Not really...Panthean started out as a liberal democracy sort of like US.
Then Communist was born after i acquired most of Russia. But Communist wasn't a long tradition. If you can find and read some of my older post i often talk about the first president of Pantheaa being a democrat and oppose to Communist rules.

So the capitalist instution was already there and as Marx's once that the Bourg can survive through communist rule if the superstructure isn't destroyed.(church, police and other things) In this case it wasn't and capitalism was able to remerge
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 06:42
Go me! Although I'm in RL not exactly the hardcore "anti-corporate"-type, though I count myself as "liberal".

11.3 seems right...wait a minute, you're not skewing these things to get yourself saved, are you? :p

Nooooooooo..... [shiftyeyes]

Actually its partly an insult to myself, I'm saying scientific people do their work and rarely think about the ends of their work, just getting the money no matter how sick their research is, which makes them valuable to the company.

At the end of this all the easily controlable people, elderly, and diseased people will have left minus the ideological fantics who will all be dead... leaving genuinely nice, but extremely poor people in Pantheaa hopefully...

BTW Panth, check your bloody TGs (you too Krey from awhile back)
You too Rome, just in case I forgot something awhile ago...
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 06:46
Not really...Panthean started out as a liberal democracy sort of like US.
Then Communist was born after i acquired most of Russia. But Communist wasn't a long tradition. If you can find and read some of my older post i often talk about the first president of Pantheaa being a democrat and oppose to Communist rules.

So the capitalist instution was already there and as Marx's once that the Bourg can survive through communist rule if the superstructure isn't destroyed.(church, police and other things) In this case it wasn't and capitalism was able to remerge

*sigh* to be young and still be able to believe that...

You know back at my High School I was the Premier of the one and only communist club in all of Conejo Valley school district, the People's Party... so glad I read Nietzsche, Aristotle, and Kierkegaard, so glad I woke up.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 06:54
Nooooooooo..... [shiftyeyes]

Actually its partly an insult to myself, I'm saying scientific people do their work and rarely think about the ends of their work, just getting the money no matter how sick their research is, which makes them valuable to the company.

At the end of this all the easily controllable people, elderly, and diseased people will have left minus the ideological fantics who will all be dead... leaving genuinely nice, but extremely poor people in Pantheaa hopefully...

BTW Panth, check your bloody TGs (you too Krey from awhile back)
You too Rome, just in case I forgot something awhile ago...

*nods* I should have known you were craftier than that. I will point out that this year I took a course that dealt with science and ethics- very interesting actually.

I got back to all of your TG's. Here I was thinking you sent me another one. :(
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 10:09
Dang. I got a -6.3. Age 30: (-5.7), and I couldn't find corrections or probation officer anywhere so I went with police etc. and got -10. Nothing else seemed to apply. My college degree is in criminal justice. I haven't ever had any of those diseases. I wonder if those would affect my rating or if I should start buying Hello Kitty pajamas.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 10:17
Dang. I got a -6.3. Age 30: (-5.7), and I couldn't find corrections or probation officer anywhere so I went with police etc. and got -10. Nothing else seemed to apply. My college degree is in criminal justice. I haven't ever had any of those diseases. I wonder if those would affect my rating or if I should start buying Hello Kitty pajamas.

Buy the Hello Kitty pajamas. It'd make you look more submissive for the power-hungry Kaufmann.
Cotland
06-04-2006, 10:25
[OOC: From the Dämmerung thread]

Prime Minister Rothsky walked up on the podium, wearing a solemn facial expression and a gray suit with a matching tie over a blue shirt. The journalists kept silent, having been told that important news were to be given now. After quickly arranging his papers, Rothsky looked into the camera and started. He would speak in Cottish, but simultanious translation were given in English.

"Mine damer og herrer, jeg har en erklæring. For trettiseks timer siden gikk Cottiske væpnede styrker inn i Kalmykia-republikken for å straffe terrorist-nasjonen Pantheaa. Vårt militære involvement innebærer at vi skal anektere Kalmykia som en del av Riket. Som vi alle vet, er Pantheaa en fare for verdensfreden, og militære handlinger er det eneste svaret vi kan finne for å beskytte Rikets sikkerhet. Videre har vi juridisk rett til å begynne militære operasjoner mot Pantheaa. Nylige undersøkelser som følge av senkingen av fregatten 'Mons' ved Bouvet-øya i fjor viser at Pantheaa sto bak angrepet. Paragraf 15 i Sikkerhetsloven sier klart og tydelig at dersom noen Cottiske skip blir angrepet i en internasjonal sone så har den nasjonen som angrep gitt oss en de facto krigserklæring. Som en følge av dette erklærer jeg på vegne av Hans Majestet Kongen krig mot Pantheaa. Takk."

[Ladies and gentlemen, I have an announcement to make. Thirty-six hours ago, Cottish armed forces entered the Kalmykia Republic as a part of a penal action against the terrorist nation of Pantheaa. Our military involvement includes the annexation of Kalmykia as a part of the Realm. As we all know, Pantheaa is a danger for world peace, and military action is the only answer we can find in order to protect the national security of the Realm. Furthermore, we have the legal right to commence military activities against Pantheaa. Recent investigation following the sinking of the frigate 'Mons' near Bouvet Island last year shows that Pantheaa was behind the attack. Article fifteen of the Protection of the Realm Act clearly dictates that if any Cottish warships are attacked in an international zone is a de facto decleration of war upon the Realm. As a result of this, on behalf of His Majesty the King, I declare a state of war against Pantheaa. Thank you.]

Rothsky walked out again after making the statement, ignoring the questions the journalists called out for him to answer.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 14:15
Indeed Pantheaa, I have a lot of respect for someone who says they can't RP well, kudos to you for being honest. Your aren't that bad of an RPer. If you post, and then read what you have written, you'll be able to rectify any mistakes and clean things up, making the post more clear, thats what I do.

And about my casualties. I have lost nearly 30 tanks, and around 20 APC's, thats about 600 dead. There are also around 200 other dead and about 300 wounded. I won't RP losing a battle because it would be stupid. A rebel cannot stop 20 tanks entering a city. He can harass them but he can't stop them. Your definition of a battle isn't really contextually correct, not for the kind of war we are RPing anyway. There has yet to be a real battle.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 15:56
I'd just like to say one thing. Its a bit out of the blue, but it might surprise you.

I always get very pissed off when British people tell me they invented the VTOL/SVTOL Jet engine and the Harrier Jump Jet. They're very proud of it for some reason, and they won't believe the current US Version is superior to any British made version. Anyway, I always put their bull-headedness down to the fact that they believed they designed it. Well, they're wrong.

The first VTOL was invented in Ireland. It was invented by a company called Short's, in a factory they had in Belfast. The first prototype looked like a bed that went up and down. My father and others saw them testing it as they went to and from school. The test yard was visible from the road outside the factory. This was about 1955, I think it was after the Gyrocopter experiment. Anyway, the test pilot was killed in about 1957 when the thing crashed in the yard. I was also growing up when the VTOL/SVTOL was being perfected, and I was freinds with a guy who's dad was an expert engineer on the system at the Shorts Factory. He eventually moved to the US to work on the US Harrier's, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was working on the JSF's engine!

Anyway, I remembered this strange fact the other day as I drove past the place where the factory used to be. You'll probably be quite surprised, but don't be. The modern submarine was invented by an Irishman who emigrated to the USA and the pioneering work in Anti-Missile Missile systems was carried out in my hometown, Belfast. One of the most advanced systems to date, The Starstreak, was made here (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/). So the next time some Brit gets in your face about how good their Harrier or Missile systems are, just remember what I told you!
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 15:59
I'd just like to say one thing. Its a bit out of the blue, but it might surprise you.

I always get very pissed off when British people tell me they invented the VTOL/SVTOL Jet engine and the Harrier Jump Jet. They're very proud of it for some reason, and they won't believe the current US Version is superior to any British made version. Anyway, I always put their bull-headedness down to the fact that they believed they designed it. Well, they're wrong.

The first VTOL was invented in Ireland. It was invented by a company called Short's, in a factory they had in Belfast. The first prototype looked like a bed that went up and down. My father and others saw them testing it as they went to and from school. The test yard was visible from the road outside the factory. This was about 1955, I think it was after the Gyrocopter experiment. Anyway, the test pilot was killed in about 1957 when the thing crashed in the yard.

Anyway, I remembered this strange fact the other day as I drove past the place where the factory used to be. You'll probably be quite surprised, but don't be. The modern submarine was invented by an Irishman who emigrated to the USA and the pioneering work in Anti-Missile Missile systems was carried out in my hometown, Belfast. One of the most advanced systems to date, The Starstreak, was made here (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/). So the next time some Brit gets in your face about how good their Harrier or Missile systems are, just remember what I told you!

Actually the AV-8B+ that is in service is not as good as it could have been. The Harrier GR7 falls short in that it does not have a radar. The radar on the AV-8B+ is the APG-65, the same as the F-18. However, they have not implemented AIM-120 ability to the AV-8B+ yet so it isn't all that hot. The AV-8B+ originally would have had 8 pylons with the -120 capability. If the Harrier GR7 had a radar it would be utterly superior. The radar on the B+ just gives it a slight edge. Also keep in mind that if a plane cannot handle the -120 it cannot handle the AIM-9X! The GR7 can handle the ASRAAM. So it's give & take but the radar probably gives it a slight edge.

Also, the Harrier GR7 carries the Brimstone anti-tank missile. We're working on our version but it isn't ready yet. The GR7 is definitely a better tank buster because of this. It can carry the Maverick too.
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 17:04
Dang. I got a -6.3. Age 30: (-5.7), and I couldn't find corrections or probation officer anywhere so I went with police etc. and got -10. Nothing else seemed to apply. My college degree is in criminal justice. I haven't ever had any of those diseases. I wonder if those would affect my rating or if I should start buying Hello Kitty pajamas.

Yeah... if you were a Pantheaan policeman, big no-no. Negative value very bad, at best you'd get shipped off alone to a nation accepting refugees, at worst you'd be branded a terrorist (seeing as what some ex-Pantheaan policemen did) and be put through a series of arduous and irrelevant 'inquiry services.'

But the Hello Kitty pajamas would make the ordeal twice as comfortable!
Huahin
06-04-2006, 17:43
So Pantheaa's gone, or not?
Huahin
06-04-2006, 17:47
I'd just like to say one thing. Its a bit out of the blue, but it might surprise you.

I always get very pissed off when British people tell me they invented the VTOL/SVTOL Jet engine and the Harrier Jump Jet. They're very proud of it for some reason, and they won't believe the current US Version is superior to any British made version. Anyway, I always put their bull-headedness down to the fact that they believed they designed it. Well, they're wrong.

The first VTOL was invented in Ireland. It was invented by a company called Short's, in a factory they had in Belfast. The first prototype looked like a bed that went up and down. My father and others saw them testing it as they went to and from school. The test yard was visible from the road outside the factory. This was about 1955, I think it was after the Gyrocopter experiment. Anyway, the test pilot was killed in about 1957 when the thing crashed in the yard. I was also growing up when the VTOL/SVTOL was being perfected, and I was freinds with a guy who's dad was an expert engineer on the system at the Shorts Factory. He eventually moved to the US to work on the US Harrier's, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was working on the JSF's engine!

Anyway, I remembered this strange fact the other day as I drove past the place where the factory used to be. You'll probably be quite surprised, but don't be. The modern submarine was invented by an Irishman who emigrated to the USA and the pioneering work in Anti-Missile Missile systems was carried out in my hometown, Belfast. One of the most advanced systems to date, The Starstreak, was made here (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/). So the next time some Brit gets in your face about how good their Harrier or Missile systems are, just remember what I told you!

What bullshit is this? The Harrier GR9 is the best Harrier out there, and Belfast is in Ulster, which is part of the UK.
Spizania
06-04-2006, 17:59
The Harrier GR-9 is superior to the US version, just because you slap American Electronics onto it doesnt automatically make it the best in the world.
Like Huahin said, Belfast is British, pehaps you should look at a map some time?
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 18:04
The Harrier GR-9 is superior to the US version, just because you slap American Electronics onto it doesnt automatically make it the best in the world.
Like Huahin said, Belfast is British, pehaps you should look at a map some time?

Ah the GR9 finally got into service. Nice. It still needs a radar though. The FA2 could carry the AIM-120.

I'm pretty damn sure Hirgy knows where Belfast is and where Ulster is, considering he lives up there in N. Ireland. The British may control it but that's about it.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 18:09
Spiz and Huahin:

I live in Belfast asswipes. I LIVE IN IRELAND. I am not a British citizen. I was born on the island of Ireland, not in the UK. My President is Mary McAleese and my Taiseoch is Bertie Ahern, both Govern from Dublin. I don't recognise any authority from London whatsoever.

Perhaps you should look up a history book of my country before you try and tell me where I live and with whom. People from Northern Ireland are Northern Irish, or Irish, take your pick.

Also, the Harrier GR9 is out of date and has been for years, as is the Harrier itself as it is not supersonic. Like Lay said, it still needs a bloody radar. The AV-8B Harrier 2+ is a heck of an imrpovement on anything BAe could ever make. If you've ever seen one up close and flying, and I have, you'll realise that even the British Jaguar is an improvement over it. Thats a fact my freinds, one you obviously need to learn.

(Sorry about this rant to everyone else out there, but like most of you, I can't abide by people talking BS about my own country.)
Cotland
06-04-2006, 18:09
LOL. Way to go, arguing about where Belfast is.

Anyway, I did Bjorns test and I got a score of 10.2. I guess I'm a valuable guy for them...
Cotland
06-04-2006, 18:11
Hirg, a free piece of legal advice. Grow a skin, as most people are too stupid to accept facts.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 18:13
Indeed, your probably right Cot. I suspect Spiz and Huahin are from the UK though, and I can't stand Brit's lecturing me about a country that isn't theirs and one that kicked their ass back across the sea.
Spizania
06-04-2006, 18:15
Supersonic jets arent the be all and end all, just look at the Falklands
Cotland
06-04-2006, 18:16
Supersonic jets arent the be all and end all, just look at the Falklands
Indeed, but it is nice to fly away fast when the heat gets too hot.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 18:18
Yeah, and Max Hastings, perhaps the most outspoken historian on that conflict, and who was actually there and was the first Brit into Port Stanley after the Argy surrender, agrees that without US Intelligence assets the British might not have won, at least might not have won so easily.

It also wasn't the Harrier jet that was superior, indeed it was clumsy and untested in combat at the time, it was the superior training of the British RAF and Naval Aviators that won the air war. It wouldn't have mattered terribly if the jets had not been Harriers.
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 18:25
Yeah, and Max Hastings, perhaps the most outspoken historian on that conflict, and who was actually there and was the first Brit into Port Stanley after the Argy surrender, agrees that without US Intelligence assets the British might not have won, at least might not have won so easily.

It also wasn't the Harrier jet that was superior, indeed it was clumsy and untested in combat at the time, it was the superior training of the British RAF and Naval Aviators that won the air war. It wouldn't have mattered terribly if the jets had not been Harriers.

And the awesomeness of the AIM-9L Sidewinder first all-aspect IR dogfight missile that went to TOWN on the Argy's.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 18:28
Indeed, forgot about the British firepower superiority, although that was just in the air and Artillery wise.

If the Argy's had gotten their act together in the time it took the British task force to arrive it could have been a rather nasty little war. Especially with those Exocept missiles, the Argy numerical superiority and the terrain and climate. The Argy's were mostly conscript's though, and they were up against Marines, Para's and the SAS, so you can see why the Brit's made such good progress once they landed. Still, if the Argy's had been professional soldiers then things might have gone different.
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 18:29
I think we had an E-2 Hawkeye supporting them too, which is pretty nice to have.
United States of Brink
06-04-2006, 18:43
Hastings, i just read armageddon, fantastic, funny too becuase im reading his book OVERLORD now. Hes british though so i cant enjoy it that much.
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 19:27
Buy the Hello Kitty pajamas. It'd make you look more submissive for the power-hungry Kaufmann.

LOL, although he is power-hungry he does not so much value submissive people as simply apathetic people (he values drones over slaves)
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 20:35
Hastings wrote a good one called 'Going to the Wars', about all his journalism, some very interesting stuff, especially in Vietnam, where he was a very Pro-US journalist and despised those who weren't, my kinda guy really.

And yeah, the US had some Intel assets in the Falklands, the Brit's would have been lost without them. I also once saw a photo of these guys in the Falklands, and they appeared to be wearing US PASGT helmet's, US Dust Goggles and were carrying M16A2's. I've never since been able to find any concrete info about whether there were any US feet on the ground, but it looked like it to me.
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 20:37
I got We Were Soldiers Once...And Young...

Beginning seems like the movie they made was quite factual (except for the whole omission of LZ Albany).
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 20:38
Hastings wrote a good one called 'Going to the Wars', about all his journalism, some very interesting stuff, especially in Vietnam, where he was a very Pro-US journalist and despised those who weren't, my kinda guy really.

And yeah, the US had some Intel assets in the Falklands, the Brit's would have been lost without them. I also once saw a photo of these guys in the Falklands, and they appeared to be wearing US PASGT helmet's, US Dust Goggles and were carrying M16A2's. I've never since been able to find any concrete info about whether there were any US feet on the ground, but it looked like it to me.

They could have been US SOF.
Hirgizstan
06-04-2006, 20:50
Yeah, the film was quite close to the book in some respects. They depicted Sgt. Major Plumley and Col.Moore pretty accurately, as well as Sgt.Savage and his men who were cut off. There are a few irregularities, but thats always the way with the movies.

LZ Albany is a real kicker though. The story will stick in your mind forever.

And yeah, I reckon they were US SOF forces. Which ones I have no idea. It wouldn't be the style of Grey Fox operatives to be knowlingly photographed, so if they indeed were US SOF, then I guess probably SFOD-D. If it was US Forces, the info will probably remain classified for a while yet, as is most of the British info surrounding the war.
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 20:53
Yeah, the film was quite close to the book in some respects. They depicted Sgt. Major Plumley and Col.Moore pretty accurately, as well as Sgt.Savage and his men who were cut off. There are a few irregularities, but thats always the way with the movies.

LZ Albany is a real kicker though. The story will stick in your mind forever.

And yeah, I reckon they were US SOF forces. Which ones I have no idea. It wouldn't be the style of Grey Fox operatives to be knowlingly photographed, so if they indeed were US SOF, then I guess probably SFOD-D. If it was US Forces, the info will probably remain classified for a while yet, as is most of the British info surrounding the war.

SFOD-D would have had their eyes blacked out. They were probably SEALs.
N Germania
06-04-2006, 21:00
Just like Hirgy gave a lecture about Ireland being IRELAND and not BRITAIN, the Southeast of the U.S., while not TECHNICALLY an autonomous entity, is its own country.

Sorry, I bet a lot of you guys from America will disagree.
Layarteb
06-04-2006, 21:01
Just like Hirgy gave a lecture about Ireland being IRELAND and not BRITAIN, the Southeast of the U.S., while not TECHNICALLY an autonomous entity, is its own country.

Sorry, I bet a lot of you guys from America will disagree.

I agree. NY is it's own country too.
Squornshelous
06-04-2006, 21:15
Just like Hirgy gave a lecture about Ireland being IRELAND and not BRITAIN, the Southeast of the U.S., while not TECHNICALLY an autonomous entity, is its own country.

Sorry, I bet a lot of you guys from America will disagree.

I agree with that. There's a big retangle from North Carolina to Georgia to Arkansas to Tennessee that's its own little country. I don't include Florida because it's not really part of "The South" and we all know how Texas feels.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 21:21
Just like Hirgy gave a lecture about Ireland being IRELAND and not BRITAIN, the Southeast of the U.S., while not TECHNICALLY an autonomous entity, is its own country.

Sorry, I bet a lot of you guys from America will disagree.

I'll agree, though I'm Canadian. The South really does seem like another world in comparison to the rest of the US.

Oh, and I'd like to throw in Alberta and Quebec while I'm at it. In fact, Canada's pretty diverse regionally- it's almost like we're seven different countries in one- British Columbia, Western Canada, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes and the North. Quite the mix we have here.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 21:22
I agree with that. There's a big retangle from North Carolina to Georgia to Arkansas to Tennessee that's its own little country. I don't include Florida because it's not really part of "The South" and we all know how Texas feels.

I think Florida's pretty Southern. Texas...that's a whole new world in itself.
Squornshelous
06-04-2006, 21:26
I think Florida's pretty Southern.

Nah, between the snowbird retirees and the cuban immigrants, the culture in florida really isn't much like the rest of the south at all.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 21:31
Nah, between the snowbird retirees and the cuban immigrants, the culture in florida really isn't much like the rest of the south at all.

They're not hardcore, yes, but- having vacationed in Fort Myers every year of my life, I can safely say there's *some* Southern elements in Florida. It's a pretty conservative state overall.
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 21:35
I'll agree, though I'm Canadian. The South really does seem like another world in comparison to the rest of the US.

Oh, and I'd like to throw in Alberta and Quebec while I'm at it. In fact, Canada's pretty diverse regionally- it's almost like we're seven different countries in one- British Columbia, Western Canada, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritimes and the North. Quite the mix we have here.

I've always thought that BC and Alberta should join forces and secede. We'd annex the breadbasket Saskatchewan and Manitoba, making Saskitoba - the Canadian Ukraine! Then Upper and Lower Canada can go back to their incessant titty-fighting while the Maritimes get blissfully smashed. Yay!

Hirgy: Erin go bragh! And Cymru am byth!
[NS]Kreynoria
06-04-2006, 21:40
Just like Hirgy gave a lecture about Ireland being IRELAND and not BRITAIN, the Southeast of the U.S., while not TECHNICALLY an autonomous entity, is its own country.

Sorry, I bet a lot of you guys from America will disagree.


Lolz you're right. I went down to Florida one time, and on the way there were confederate flags (which look way better than U.S. ones) eveywhere, especially on car window stickers.

The South should have been its own country. No offense to any southerners, but which region gives us the least tax income? Where is so much of our welfare spending going? The South. And now we have to pay to fix up New Orleans.
RomeW
06-04-2006, 21:40
I've always thought that BC and Alberta should join forces and secede. We'd annex the breadbasket Saskatchewan and Manitoba, making Saskitoba - the Canadian Ukraine! Then Upper and Lower Canada can go back to their incessant titty-fighting while the Maritimes get blissfully smashed. Yay!

Hirgy: Erin go bragh! And Cymru am byth!

I'm not sure if BC and Alberta would though...BC's extremely liberal (especially along the coast) and Alberta's pretty conservative. Doesn't sound like a good match. You might be better off getting "Saskitoberta" (to throw Alberta in there) to work, but then they'd be landlocked (except for Churchill, but that's not a warm water port). As far as the rest of Canada goes- heck, we'll let them all go off on their own. As far as we're concerned in Ontario, you all complain too much. :D
RomeW
06-04-2006, 21:41
Kreynoria']Lolz you're right. I went down to Florida one time, and on the way there were confederate flags (which look way better than U.S. ones) eveywhere, especially on car window stickers.

The South should have been its own country. No offense to any southerners, but which region gives us the least tax income? Where is so much of our welfare spending going? The South. And now we have to pay to fix up New Orleans.

Hey, New Orleans rocks. I'd pay to fix New Orleans.
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 21:45
As far as we're concerned in Ontario, you all complain too much. :D

That's just the sort of tripe to come out of the "centre of the universe"! Ontarians decide elections. That's why the west whines like bitches...and votes as a bloc. :p

Vive le Bloc d'Ouest!

Man, I'm a slogan-whore today....
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 21:46
Hey, New Orleans rocks. I'd pay to fix New Orleans.

Here's something only a Canuck would get: New Orleans is sinking, man, and he don't wanna swim.
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 21:49
Bah... all y'all can secede from the Union, California can kick ass without any help.

5th largest economy in the world biotches!

And our governor can kick any of your governors' asses (even you Jesse...)

In regards to the south: Sherman did not do a good enough job :p
RomeW
06-04-2006, 22:10
That's just the sort of tripe to come out of the "centre of the universe"! Ontarians decide elections. That's why the west whines like bitches...and votes as a bloc. :p

Vive le Bloc d'Ouest!

Man, I'm a slogan-whore today....

Well...it's not like Ontario has over half of the seats in Parliament, but I'll agree when you say that the system's skewed and needs changing. Something's wrong with this "regional representation" thing we have going here.

Here's something only a Canuck would get: New Orleans is sinking, man, and he don't wanna swim.

I had that song in my head shortly after hearing the news of Katrina. Whatever happened to The Tragically Hip anyway?
RomeW
06-04-2006, 22:12
Bah... all y'all can secede from the Union, California can kick ass without any help.

5th largest economy in the world biotches!

And our governor can kick any of your governors' asses (even you Jesse...)

In regards to the south: Sherman did not do a good enough job :p

Isn't Arnold about to be voted out or am I hearing things wrong?
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 22:13
Well, as the Hip are completely unknown down here in the Excited States, I haven't the first clue what they're up to. They toured like mad there for a while...maybe they're resting and writing? And I dunno about the rest of this country, but for some reason the Barenaked Ladies are huge in Portland.
Cymrea
06-04-2006, 22:15
Bah... all y'all can secede from the Union, California can kick ass without any help.

5th largest economy in the world biotches!

And our governor can kick any of your governors' asses (even you Jesse...)

I don't know...we once had a PM with a pretty mean choke hold...:cool:
RomeW
06-04-2006, 22:25
Well, as the Hip are completely unknown down here in the Excited States, I haven't the first clue what they're up to. They toured like mad there for a while...maybe they're resting and writing? And I dunno about the rest of this country, but for some reason the Barenaked Ladies are huge in Portland.
They had an album out two years ago that was pretty good ("In Between Evolution"), but they've kind of fallen off the map since then. Quality-wise, it just hasn't been the same since "Fully Completely".
RomeW
06-04-2006, 22:31
I don't know...we once had a PM with a pretty mean choke hold...:cool:
Ah yes, The Shawinigan Handshake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake). Who could forget?
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 22:32
Isn't Arnold about to be voted out or am I hearing things wrong?

Yeah, some tree-hugger I've seen on TV once in a while, but I suspect Arnold'll just go back in time and kick his ass...
Bjornoya
06-04-2006, 22:34
I don't know...we once had a PM with a pretty mean choke hold...:cool:

Pic?
RomeW
06-04-2006, 22:41
Pic?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Billclennett.jpg

The one on the right is Jean Chretien, the Prime Minister of Canada until 2002. The man he's choking- Bill Clennett- was an anti-poverty protestor.
Cymrea
07-04-2006, 00:01
Rome: I know you're busy, but when do you think I might hear back on the last TGs we exchanged? And now I'm going to check because I have just leaped before looking. :D
Layarteb
07-04-2006, 00:59
Linebackerdude is past 21-days inactive so he is eligible for Decree 8.
United States of Brink
07-04-2006, 01:00
I reckon ill take him.
Bjornoya
07-04-2006, 01:09
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Billclennett.jpg

The one on the right is Jean Chretien, the Prime Minister of Canada until 2002. The man he's choking- Bill Clennett- was an anti-poverty protestor.

Awesome, but can he stop humanity from being destroyed by evil robots?
Layarteb
07-04-2006, 01:12
I reckon ill take him.

Make sure you post a thread.
Bjornoya
07-04-2006, 01:33
Going to dog-sit at my best friends house for two days wo/internet, the highest form of gaming I can do there is Warcraft...

2....

:(

Be back on Saturday methinks, maybe sooner. In the mean time assume Visara continues to collect Pantheaan refugees and ships the most undesireable to naitons accepting refugees at the moment (Japan, Rome, etc.)

BTW NG check your TGs on N Germania...
RomeW
07-04-2006, 01:37
Awesome, but can he stop humanity from being destroyed by evil robots?

With a hold like that? I think he just might be able to defeat Predator...
Bjornoya
07-04-2006, 01:42
BTW Rome

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476047

Was wondering what the RC's stance on 8th stipulation in the treaty was, and since both Hirgy and myself will (prbly) be signing this TOA members might wanna take a look.
RomeW
07-04-2006, 01:51
BTW Rome

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476047

Was wondering what the RC's stance on 8th stipulation in the treaty was, and since both Hirgy and myself will (prbly) be signing this TOA members might wanna take a look.

Looks like a conflict of interest. This could theoretically prevent any Roman Confederacy or The October Alliance defence, since it very clearly wouldn't allow our alliances to attack each other. I mean, let's say- theoretically- Cotland and I get into a fight, we go to war and we invoke our defence obligations. You and Hirgizstan are prevented from going into the war because of this clause, when you both probably would. I personally don't like the clause, since it suggests an "us vs. them" attitude and that's not how I think an alliance should be run.
United States of Brink
07-04-2006, 02:01
Ill get a post up tomorrow.
Layarteb
07-04-2006, 03:33
BTW Rome

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476047

Was wondering what the RC's stance on 8th stipulation in the treaty was, and since both Hirgy and myself will (prbly) be signing this TOA members might wanna take a look.

This TOA member is largely unaffected so go ahead and please, become powerful!
Cymrea
07-04-2006, 06:58
Awesome, but can he stop humanity from being destroyed by evil robots?

If I learned nothing else from the greatest teacher in the world - Bob the Angry Flower - I learned this: Bears and robots are mortal enemies.

http://www.angryflower.com

Visit the archives. Read them all. You'll be a better person for it. Unleash the bears!


"From now on, I'm keeping all my world-killing weapons a secret!"
-Bob the Angry Flower
Hawdawg
07-04-2006, 12:52
BTW Rome

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476047

Was wondering what the RC's stance on 8th stipulation in the treaty was, and since both Hirgy and myself will (prbly) be signing this TOA members might wanna take a look.

This clause really doesn't bother me either. I don't feel threatened by it at all. Feel free to develop Africa into something, its long overdue for expansion with all the natural resources available to it.


-Hawdawg
[NS]Kreynoria
07-04-2006, 13:13
I reckon ill take him.


Here are his military stats, you can use them for RPing his defense

1x Revion class Battleship
5x Kelis class Cruisers
13x Tritus class Frigates
1x Nurio-T class Troop Carrier

20x Rovak Fighters
10x Rusiav Fighters
15x Bruntik Bombers
20x Harpy WIG Craft
1x Yarui Cargo Plane

100x Tenoth III Tank
200x Armadillo I IFV
12x Ulya II AA Tank
2x Gara II MLRS


1,000,000x MTW-01 assault rifle
1,000,000x MTW-02 automatic pistol
100,000x MTW-103 submachine gun
1,100,000x MTC-01 body armour
1,000,000x Warrior headsets
400x MTW-04 Surge EMP missile launcher
400x MTW-05 sniper rifle


If you need more detail, check MierTech storefront.
Layarteb
07-04-2006, 16:40
Monty walks into the bathroom. He looks in the mirror. In the bottom corner, someone's written Fuck You!)
Monty: Yeah, fuck you, too.
Monty's Reflection: Fuck me? Fuck you! Fuck you and this whole city and everyone in it.
Fuck the panhandlers, grubbing for money, and smiling at me behind my back.
Fuck squeegee men dirtying up the clean windshield of my car. Get a fucking job!
Fuck the Sikhs and the Pakistanis bombing down the avenues in decrepit cabs, curry steaming out their pores and stinking up my day. Terrorists in fucking training. Slow the fuck down!
Fuck the Chelsea boys with their waxed chests and pumped up biceps. Going down on each other in my parks and on my piers, jingling their dicks on my Channel 35.
Fuck the Korean grocers with their pyramids of overpriced fruit and their tulips and roses wrapped in plastic. Ten years in the country, still no speaky English?
Fuck the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, sugar cubes between their teeth. Wheelin' and dealin' and schemin'. Go back where you fucking came from!
Fuck the black-hatted Chassidim, strolling up and down 47th street in their dirty gabardine with their dandruff. Selling South African apartheid diamonds!
Fuck the Wall Street brokers. Self-styled masters of the universe. Michael Douglas, Gordon Gecko wannabe mother fuckers, figuring out new ways to rob hard working people blind. Send those Enron assholes to jail for fucking life! You think Bush and Cheney didn't know about that shit? Give me a fucking break! Tyco! Imclone! Adelphia! Worldcom!
Fuck the Puerto Ricans. 20 to a car, swelling up the welfare rolls, worst fuckin' parade in the city. And don't even get me started on the Dom-in-i-cans, because they make the Puerto Ricans look good.
Fuck the Bensonhurst Italians with their pomaded hair, their nylon warm-up suits, and their St. Anthony medallions. Swinging their, Jason Giambi, Louisville slugger, baseball bats, trying to audition for the Sopranos.
Fuck the Upper East Side wives with their Hermés scarves and their fifty-dollar Balducci artichokes. Overfed faces getting pulled and lifted and stretched, all taut and shiny. You're not fooling anybody, sweetheart!
Fuck the uptown brothers. They never pass the ball, they don't want to play defense, they take fives steps on every lay-up to the hoop. And then they want to turn around and blame everything on the white man. Slavery ended one hundred and thirty seven years ago. Move the fuck on!
Fuck the corrupt cops with their anus violating plungers and their 41 shots, standing behind a blue wall of silence. You betray our trust!
Fuck the priests who put their hands down some innocent child's pants. Fuck the church that protects them, delivering us into evil. And while you're at it, fuck JC! He got off easy! A day on the cross, a weekend in hell, and all the hallelujahs of the legioned angels for eternity! Try seven years in fuckin Otisville, Jay!
Fuck Osama Bin Laden, Alqueda, and backward-ass, cave-dwelling, fundamentalist assholes everywhere. On the names of innocent thousands murdered, I pray you spend the rest of eternity with your seventy-two whores roasting in a jet-fueled fire in hell. You towel headed camel jockeys can kiss my royal, Irish ass!
Fuck Jacob Elinski, whining malcontent.
Fuck Francis Xavier Slaughtery, my best friend, judging me while he stares at my girlfriend's ass.
Fuck Naturel Rivera. I gave her my trust and she stabbed me in the back. Sold me up the river. Fucking bitch.
Fuck my father with his endless grief, standing behind that bar. Sipping on club soda, selling whiskey to firemen and cheering the Bronx Bombers.
Fuck this whole city and everyone in it. From the row houses of Astoria to the penthouses on Park Avenue. From the projects in the Bronx to the lofts in Soho. From the tenements in Alphabet City to the brownstones in Park slope to the split levels in Staten Island. Let an earthquake crumble it. Let the fires rage. Let it burn to fuckin ash then let the waters rise and submerge this whole, rat-infested place.
Monty: No. No, fuck you, Montgomery Brogan. You had it all and then you threw it away, you dumb fuck!
(He takes a breath and tries to rub away the words.)



This is an awesome sequence from 25th Hour. It's in the book too. Cool shit eh?
Pyschotika
07-04-2006, 16:49
I'm...I'm so bored...I...I may...I may even have to re-institute the Japanese Empire...

RP to come, bitches!

( Layarteb - The new name will just be 'Imperial Japan' so I can take 'YOU FUCKING IMPERIALIST' as a compliment. )
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 16:52
It's a helluva piece of writing, but it doesn't show NY in the greatest light, I must say.

Perhaps I should become an Empire also, that means when Pantheaa bitches at me for 'imperialism' he wouldn't be talking BS.
Pyschotika
07-04-2006, 17:12
yea but I'm not 'becomming' an Empire, I'm returning to my Empire days.

^_^.

And yes, that would be quite amusing. Also, you have Pacific lands, I have some Diplomatic talks. Perhaps on AIM or TGs? Trust me, no harm shall be done to you even if you don't agree with my proposal. I just need some reassurance for my self, make sure I have some Positive Military assets in the area.

My aim is ClubCrKz/Clubprivatesn.

So yea, I'd appreciate a good chat.
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 17:22
TG's would be better, I don't have an AIM account.

TG me what your proposals are.
United States of Brink
07-04-2006, 20:10
Where does this navy re supply and such, he is landlocked.
Pyschotika
07-04-2006, 20:23
Where does this navy re supply and such, he is landlocked.

Who's land locked?

Me?
Pyschotika
07-04-2006, 20:24
Where does this navy re supply and such, he is landlocked.

And if you did mean Hirgy, you realise his trade deals with just about all the people who HAVE to focus on their Navy kind of has his supply chain running. The Pacific Isles he posesses may just have a nice stock pile of something, not meaning everything though.
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 21:04
I happen to own two of the biggest Naval bases in the world- the Seychelles and Cape Verde. Both of them are like massive military bases for the most part. I also have two Naval bases in Ireland.
United States of Brink
07-04-2006, 21:14
Whoa there psyco no need to get defensive, i was talking about Linebackerdude, he went d8/12.

Ill be starting that thread later tonigh, writing it now. I got a really cool idea i hope works out. Should be a good read.
Pantheaa
07-04-2006, 21:54
Im no longer RPing with Hirg cause he continues to god mod and insult me. I don't mind the god moding...as i let Spizania invade me with a huge army, but the fact that Hirg continues to violate the mature decree. Im not going to log on just be called stupid.

I have never once called him stupid...yet he calls me stupid
Continue your invasion if you want but im just ignoring Hirgs post. I still control Orenburg

Im not a smart person true, i go to public unveristy after all. But if you can't play nicely then i ain't playing at all. I would rather be playing Oblivion

Insults on people are consider to be libel..and i will not hesitate to report to the NS moderater
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 22:01
I wasn't getting psycho USB, just pointing our my Naval bases. No need to worry.




Lay, can you deal with Pantheaa for me?

I am getting really sick of this.

Take a look at the RP for me, see what I mean.

And Pantheaa, when did I insult you, I simply called you a poor RPer, doesn't mean you can't improve. But your RP was so confused its hard to know where your forces are and what they are doing. I reacted to what they seemed to be doing, and I think you'll find others will side with me on the issue.
Pantheaa
07-04-2006, 22:04
Agree whatever Lay decides is fine with me

But im not sticking around just be insulted, i don't play E2 to be degraded
United States of Brink
07-04-2006, 23:05
Hirg, i didnt mean that towards you, i was talking to Pyschotika, i just shortened it so thats where it got confusing.

I have to learn to clear up my posts.
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 23:08
Has Pantheaa actually left this time?
Cotland
07-04-2006, 23:09
Pantheaa, having skimmed the thread, I found no insults against you other than Hirg calling you a poor RPer, something which you have admitted to being yourself earlier in this thread. I can find no reason for ignoring his posts, and I urge you to grow a friggin' skin and stop ranting like a certain Russian we all love (to hate). If you have so much OOC chatter to say, open a OOC thread for the campaign for it instead of cluttering the whole IC thread with OOC ranting. If you cannot grow said skin, I strongly suggest you stop playing and return when you've grown out of the tate of mental activity which seems to me to be equal to that of a five-year old toddler. Thank you for listening to this piece of free legal advice.

- Cotland
Pantheaa
07-04-2006, 23:27
You found no insults cause it was edited out
Hirgizstan
07-04-2006, 23:28
Have you left or not?
Bjornoya
07-04-2006, 23:32
Pantheaa, look I know your going through a hard time at the moment, been in your shoes before.
What I think is causing problem is the lack of information provided about your forces an ORBAT, clealy defined locations, troops movements, takign losses to others posts and launching clearly defined counter-attacks would be great.
If you feel pissed off, as you should be feel free to take a day off, go fishing, get a tan, whatever but ignoring the invasion as I know will simply lead to your destruction and you'll have no say in the future of your nation which is what you've been focussing on recently.
If you continue to feel pissed off, throw some insults on Lay's forum and put the rest of the energy into the RP.
RomeW
07-04-2006, 23:46
You guys are getting nowhere with the bickering.
N Germania
08-04-2006, 03:57
Im not a smart person true, i go to public unveristy after all.

I've gone to a total of two public universities (colleges), as well as 'alternative schools' in High School, and I wouldn't describe myself as a dumb person.
Pyschotika
08-04-2006, 04:44
Hirg, i didnt mean that towards you, i was talking to Pyschotika, i just shortened it so thats where it got confusing.

I have to learn to clear up my posts.

Heh..wasn't trying to sound defensive, was just confused.

Didn't mean to sound like that though, I am just defensive when confused I guess lol.
Pyschotika
08-04-2006, 04:46
Okay I know what will fix this.

Some rum and a nice round of pornos, or hookers. Unless you prefer masturbation...that is all up to you I suppose.

NG on the otherhand doesn't need the either...I guess :-P...but he could take the Rum...probably more hardcore alcohol but Rum none the less would be okay...

Anyways...

How about this.

Since none of you can really figure this out ICly, lets reach a point of neutral feelings OOCly and work out a treaty. Pantheaa, at this point, wishes to retain his dignity I suppose if not his territorial holdings as well. But as he feels there will be no peace with him able to keep his land, then I am sure he wishes to retain..well..his dignity.

So yea, everyone...want to just calm down and form a little meeting OOCly through any means necessary? Speak out some points and agreements, and we can all live happily ever after?
Layarteb
08-04-2006, 05:03
I will go look at the RP so calm down for a few minutes, understood?
United States of Brink
08-04-2006, 05:05
Maseru Black (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476600)

Lesotho, will get better promise!
Layarteb
08-04-2006, 05:23
Concerning Operation Dämmerung

All of you people need to calm the hell down. You're arguing about stupid, little, nonsensical shit. I can't single out any one individual because you are all, for the most part, throwing out OOC insults every other thread.

Now, Pantheaa has every right to RP resistance or his soldiers fighting you guys off. You keep saying he capitulated but that was basically him giving away that land to random bidders, which is a no-no, so in essence, since that was thrown out, he never did; thus, there are no grounds by which an ignore of him is justified. Since this is not justified, all of the attacks done while "ignoring him" would be null and void and so would any counter ignores.

It's like a zoo and a mess to read through with the OOC comments, you guys probably should have had an OOC thread to make it a little better to understand but eh, those are always annoying to have to reference.

So to recap: (1) there will be no ignoring of stupid shit because it's legit; (2) you are acting like a bunch of little babies, all of you, so grow up and stop wasting my time having to actually police this nonsense; (3) RP!!!
Layarteb
08-04-2006, 05:37
I will probably update tomorrow. Sleep time, work early.
RomeW
08-04-2006, 09:30
I don't mean to brag, but I had the greatest night ever. I went clubbing in downtown Toronto and got to dance with the prettiest girl in there. I'm still in shock that it actually happened. The only downside is that she's only in for the next few days and has to go back to Vancouver, but hey, I'll take what I can get.

Just figured we could use some good news here :D.
Neuvo Rica
08-04-2006, 14:34
More good news!

I've pretty much completed my Russia claim. Final post coming up on the thread (I'm busy right now, but it'll probably be up by monday)
Hirgizstan
08-04-2006, 15:20
OOC: Lay, just one thing- we haven't yet made any RP's were we ignored Pantheaa, all the RP's were made with the assumption he was still playing. We said we might ignore him, but we never actually did. I can see, looking through the pages, how it seems kinda confusing, so I thought I'd clear that up.

We're just waiting on Pantheaa now, if he hasn't quit that is.
Geneticon
08-04-2006, 15:24
Is Chronosia around here still? I'm trying to RP with him and he isn't responding.
[NS]Kreynoria
08-04-2006, 19:32
Where does this navy re supply and such, he is landlocked.



He agreed to lease a road and a small port (can't remember name) on the east coast from NG.
Layarteb
08-04-2006, 23:10
Is Chronosia around here still? I'm trying to RP with him and he isn't responding.

Have you telegrammed him?
Pantheaa
09-04-2006, 13:56
Message to the world community

“We have debated whether or not to take the Viscera request to leave our refugee home for another refugee home. And the answer is a resounding NO!”

“We will not live, work, breed or die for the inferior Japanese. We will not obey his monkey Emperor and his monkey military. The 6 foot tall Slovakian Panthean will not
bow down to the 4 foot Japanese midget. We will not eat their dog food or their piss poor water.”

“We take a collective shit on Japan. We take a collective piss on Japan”

(OOC- like it, I got it from the ROME series on HBO when ceaser was talking to the 12 year old Egyptian king and he said that he would like to take a shit on Cleopatra.)

“Our only home is Slovakia….we will only accept that and that’s final. We will not be pushed farther away from the motherland. Russia is only a temporary home, Slovakia is our land of milk and honey.”

“If you refuse this then we shall wreak havoc inside Japan.”

“You have 1 day to make to amend your plans. If you do not change it. Then the resistance will once again restart with the the intention that we plan to stay away from going to Japan or any where else but Slovakia.”

The Panthean Resistance
Cotland
09-04-2006, 17:31
I'm going to do something which has the potential to piss the world community (at least the European one) off later this evening. Lets just say "watch the sky"...
Cotland
09-04-2006, 18:02
ATTENTION ALL!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10726928&postcount=120
Spizania
09-04-2006, 18:05
Whats the yield of that warhead?
[NS]Kreynoria
09-04-2006, 19:04
Yep. You've officially pissed me off. Love the sentiment Panth.
Bjornoya
09-04-2006, 19:30
Message to the world community

“We have debated whether or not to take the Viscera request to leave our refugee home for another refugee home. And the answer is a resounding NO!”

“We will not live, work, breed or die for the inferior Japanese. We will not obey his monkey Emperor and his monkey military. The 6 foot tall Slovakian Panthean will not
bow down to the 4 foot Japanese midget. We will not eat their dog food or their piss poor water.”

“We take a collective shit on Japan. We take a collective piss on Japan”

(OOC- like it, I got it from the ROME series on HBO when ceaser was talking to the 12 year old Egyptian king and he said that he would like to take a shit on Cleopatra.)

“Our only home is Slovakia….we will only accept that and that’s final. We will not be pushed farther away from the motherland. Russia is only a temporary home, Slovakia is our land of milk and honey.”

“If you refuse this then we shall wreak havoc inside Japan.”

“You have 1 day to make to amend your plans. If you do not change it. Then the resistance will once again restart with the the intention that we plan to stay away from going to Japan or any where else but Slovakia.”

The Panthean Resistance

1) Its VISARA, spell it right
2) No Pantheaans are sure ICly where Visara is sending them, they just said they were providing 'refugee services,' read the commercial its all you know ICly at the moment.
3) You know too much of the 'secret IC' text when you shouldn't.
4) Remember neither you nor I completely 'control' how the citizens react as they are under tons of influences at the moment.
5) How exactly are the world or your citizens gonna hear this when Visara's cut the communication lines?
Cotland
09-04-2006, 20:03
Whats the yield of that warhead?
5 megaton.
[NS]Kreynoria
09-04-2006, 20:12
I am extremely pissed off at you, Cot. And weren't you just reprimanding Huahin for a tactical nuclear strike on a small island base?
Hirgizstan
09-04-2006, 20:15
What is the strike for and where is it directed?