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'Earth II' - Revitalization - Page 3

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Layarteb
06-12-2004, 04:02
Wow that was the 500th response in less than 1 month! Damn!!!!
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 04:16
Pernica, Population 511million

Requesting Oregon and Washington.

I noticed you are also in Earth III. Make up your mind, II or III. Read the rules on the very first page for an explanation.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 04:35
Layarteb, I've decided I'm going to give up my California claims anyway and stay with my corridor going from Phoenix to Las Vegas. I'd also like to make a claim for Portland.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 04:42
Here's my IC introductorily thread:

Orange County Evacuated, Republic Declared (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7635640#post7635640)

Not sure if you need it or not.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 04:44
Layarteb, I've decided I'm going to give up my California claims anyway and stay with my corridor going from Phoenix to Las Vegas. I'd also like to make a claim for Portland.

Okay so it's just Phoenix to Las Vegas, none of the other stuff to the east? Additionally, Portland is in Oregon, which has been claimed but if the person wants to be in Earth III he won't be in Earth II so he'll be out of it and Oregon and Washington will be open.

FT: Okay but what'd Colodia say?
Pernica
06-12-2004, 04:45
I noticed you are also in Earth III. Make up your mind, II or III. Read the rules on the very first page for an explanation.

I'll renounce claims in Earth III, Earth II definently has more going for it.

edit: Not to be greedy or anything but could I get Alaska, or at least a nice Southern part of it. Washington and Oregon isn't a ton of space to stuff half a billion people. It's only a little over 160,000 square Miles and Alaska is about 590,000 square miles so that's not an unreasonable request... is it?. :headbang:
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 04:46
FT: Okay but what'd Colodia say?

I am making no claims to any of his lands in that thread, merely suggesting that my leadership is fleeing from them. He already agreed I get the Channel Islands and Baja, so there should be no conflict.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 04:50
Okay so it's just Phoenix to Las Vegas, none of the other stuff to the east? Additionally, Portland is in Oregon, which has been claimed but if the person wants to be in Earth III he won't be in Earth II so he'll be out of it and Oregon and Washington will be open.

Correct. Nothing to the east.

Well, I thought that since the person hadn't made up their minds Portland would still be open...nevertheless, scratch that claim and make one for Mazatlan, a city on the Pacific coast of Mexico that is roughly on a line from the tip of Baja California.

(Actually, if I could have the whole of Sinaola (22,429 sq. mi.), but if I'm over my limit then just Mazatlan).
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 04:58
Pernica: Alaska is yours and cool you have all those territories since you will renounce Earth III.

RomeW: Well you are out of Portland. You want just the city? Is it part of Baja California or Baja California Sur because those are both in the claims bin.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:14
Mazatlan is not in Baja California...it's in the province of Sinaloa. The city is a port on the Pacific Ocean and it's east of the tip of Baja California. This map may help where it is:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=dLOA8dv0XY7MuY6j2MzF8eohovpg3axki7bX%2bnRPjxTG%2bGEF55bPeVOmomvxbisbxn%2bvwFky5p7uX SKBoxnBLdOI95k1TzgI&submit=Get%20Map&searchtype=address&countryid=MX&address=&city=Mazatlan&state=&country=MX&addtohistory=

Here's a better map (and it's one of Mexico):

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Mexico+map/v=2/SID=e/TID=I013_77/l=IVI/SIG=11p5i7s9j/*-http%3A//www.shunya.net/Pictures/Mexico/mexico-map.jpg
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:18
Mazatlan is not in Baja California...it's in the province of Sinaloa. The city is a port on the Pacific Ocean and it's east of the tip of Baja California. This map may help where it is:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=dLOA8dv0XY7MuY6j2MzF8eohovpg3axki7bX%2bnRPjxTG%2bGEF55bPeVOmomvxbisbxn%2bvwFky5p7uX SKBoxnBLdOI95k1TzgI&submit=Get%20Map&searchtype=address&countryid=MX&address=&city=Mazatlan&state=&country=MX&addtohistory=

Here's a better map (and it's one of Mexico):

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Mexico+map/v=2/SID=e/TID=I013_77/l=IVI/SIG=11p5i7s9j/*-http%3A//www.shunya.net/Pictures/Mexico/mexico-map.jpg

Mazatlán okay. Looking for the land area now.
Pyschotika
06-12-2004, 05:22
Hey me and Nerotika are verry good friends, and he was wondering what the hell was going on with Mexico.

I dunno if he is home yet, so I am posting for him.

He claimed Mexico and we both saw a post that the claim was accepted, but problem is....it doesn't say he has Mexico yet. Could you clear the confusion please.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:23
According to this, it's just 22,429 sq. mi.:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=Sinaloa
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:23
Hey me and Nerotika are verry good friends, and he was wondering what the hell was going on with Mexico.

I dunno if he is home yet, so I am posting for him.

He claimed Mexico and we both saw a post that the claim was accepted, but problem is....it doesn't say he has Mexico yet. Could you clear the confusion please.

I sent him a TG IIRC that said Mexico as is is too big for him to claim (close to 700k square miles) and his pop limits him to under 500,000.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:24
According to this, it's just 22,429 sq. mi.:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=Sinaloa

Are you looking for the city or the whole province??
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:26
The province, but if I can't have that then just the city.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:27
The province, but if I can't have that then just the city.

Province works.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:27
Thank you.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:29
Can I get a readout of the total square miles of my land?
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:32
Can I get a readout of the total square miles of my land?

Dagestan: 19,420.94
Iraq (west): 40,501.08
Italy: 116,305.60
Jordan: 35,637.23
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Niger: 489,191.40
Sardinia: 9,301.20
Southwest Corridor (US): 2,873.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Total: 1,878,242.03
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:40
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Iraq (west): 40,501.08
Italy: 116,305.60
Jordan: 35,637.23
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Mexico (Sinaloa Province): 22,485.82
Niger: 489,191.40
Sardinia: 9,301.20
Southwest Corridor (US): 2,873.00
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Total: 1,878,242.03

Thanks, though the Southwest Corridor is actually 3593 sq. mi. (5 mi. wide along a 718.61 mi. route from Las Vegas to El Paso). I just wanted to be honest.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:43
You said nothing to the east of Phoenix earlier.

Arizona and Iowa has been inactive for 28 days so he's outta here
Callisdrun
06-12-2004, 05:45
You said nothing to the east of Phoenix earlier.

Arizona and Iowa has been inactive for 28 days so he's outta here

Then can I have NorCal?
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:46
Then can I have NorCal?

yes you may.
Pernica
06-12-2004, 05:50
would I be able to grab the chunk of land he had in Nevada? Or is that pushing it?
RomeW
06-12-2004, 05:55
I have two more claims to make then I'm done:

(Mexican provinces: http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Mexico/mexico-map.jpg )
Durango 46,196
Coahuila: 58,522
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 05:59
would I be able to grab the chunk of land he had in Nevada? Or is that pushing it?

It'll get you up to 927,076.02 square miles. Your maximum is 1.0m.
Pernica
06-12-2004, 06:03
It'll get you up to 927,076.02 square miles. Your maximum is 1.0m.

Perfect! Plenty of land, should last a long time.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:04
Pern, RomeW got you...
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:05
Thanks. I believe I should be okay as far as square miles are concerned.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:09
Thanks. I believe I should be okay as far as square miles are concerned.

Yes your limit is 2.0m square miles, fast approaching...
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:10
Can I ask how much the rest of Arizona would be?

EDIT- South of my current claims.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:16
Don't know, it's hard to tell.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:20
I'll just keep what I have then.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:22
Layarteb: I meant to say I didn't want anything west of Las Vegas (I confuse my east and my west easily). I wanted to keep the strip from Phoenix to El Paso and have my strip extend to Las Vegas (3593 sq. mi.- 718 mi. from El Paso to Las Vegas with a five-mile wide path).
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:29
Layarteb: I meant to say I didn't want anything west of Las Vegas (I confuse my east and my west easily). I wanted to keep the strip from Phoenix to El Paso and have my strip extend to Las Vegas (3593 sq. mi.- 718 mi. from El Paso to Las Vegas with a five-mile wide path).

Alright. In 14,955.63 square miles you reach 2.0m.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:30
Thanks.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:31
Thanks.

OT but that picture is amusing. Jesusland, lol. I'm in New York and I must object though. See, within 20 years, everything is going to be the United States of New York, capital NYC.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:33
I've kept it since I'm Canadian and I just like the fact that it includes California as part of Canadian territory. With winter coming up, that's any Canadian's dream.

I also think it's a powerful statement on what the U.S. is becoming, but I do think it's a tad too sensational.
Andrehervia
06-12-2004, 06:33
Layarteb, what would you say to myself creating a list of countries that haven't been claimed and putting it between the map and the list of already claimed nations? It would make the business of claiming a lot easier and CTRL+F doesn't really work most of the time (I tried doing that with the Czech Republic and it didn't find it, despite the fact it was on the list and claimed by Euroslavia).
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:34
I've kept it since I'm Canadian and I just like the fact that it includes California as part of Canadian territory. With winter coming up, that's any Canadian's dream.

I also think it's a powerful statement on what the U.S. is becoming, but I do think it's a tad too sensational.

Sadly, as much as Jesusland is the majority, the country is becoming more leftist. Given the Republican majority in Congress and the Judiciary and the States and the Executive, you just have to look at the legislations past recently to see (banning of the pledge of allegiance in 9 US states), etc.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 06:35
Layarteb, what would you say to myself creating a list of countries that haven't been claimed and putting it between the map and the list of already claimed nations? It would make the business of claiming a lot easier and CTRL+F doesn't really work most of the time (I tried doing that with the Czech Republic and it didn't find it, despite the fact it was on the list and claimed by Euroslavia).

Go ahead. yeah I must have missed that one on ES so I'll fix it now.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 06:51
True...although with George W. Bush in power it doesn't look that bright.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 06:51
May I claim the Mexican province of Sonora as well as the remainder of Arizona south of RomeW's corridor? I'll be getting numbers up in a second.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 06:55
Sonora is 70,484 square miles. Working out how big the Arizona zone is...

EDIT: I say the southern zone is about 3/5s of the entire state, or 68,403.6 miles. Hope I can afford that...
RomeW
06-12-2004, 07:03
I'd say that it's 1/3 of Arizona's territory, but I could be wrong.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 07:04
Alright, assuming my new claims (with my numbers) are approved, I'll have a total of 194923.11 miles. This will differ slightly from your account Layatreb, because you left out Santa Catalina and one other island in your tally of the Channel Islands (sorry about that, they technically aren't part of the same chain but I included them all the same).
RomeW
06-12-2004, 07:09
Actually, looking at it again it's more like 1/4...it's not a big area.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 07:15
Actually, looking at it again it's more like 1/4...it's not a big area.

Arizona? The state to the right of Southern California with your corridor running diagonally through it to terminate in southern Nevada? Thats a pretty big chunk of the state I want.
Callisdrun
06-12-2004, 07:18
(banning of the pledge of allegiance in 9 US states), etc.

really? which ones?
RomeW
06-12-2004, 07:39
Well, using rough estimates from MapQuest's directions, this is what I get:

Square Miles

(Las Vegas-Tucson (roughly a triangle) to Arizona border):

400sqmi x 200 sqmi = 80,000sqmi/2= 40,000sqmi

(Tucson-New Mexicon border to Tucson to Arizona border (roughly a rectangle)):

65sqmi x 130 sqmi = 8450 sqmi

40,000 sqmi + 8450 sqmi = 48450 sqmi
Hogsweat
06-12-2004, 17:10
For how long has RomeW had West Iraq? Surely he can't claim it while i'm in the middle of an invasion without him RPing it... and also it's not shown on the maps.
Yoboland
06-12-2004, 18:02
RPed a drop into antarctica



http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7639562#post7639562
North Germania
06-12-2004, 18:29
Some of you might be interested in this...

[Earth II] North Germania lays its eyes upon Europe
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378744
Hogsweat
06-12-2004, 19:10
Note: On Earth II, Hogsweat isn't Hogsweat. It is the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. This is because i want to use two different nations for my Earth II and non-Earth RP's, so I decided on The Union of Asian Socialist Republics. Since I am all over the world now, I think Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is better.

Plural; Soviet
Eg: The Soviet Tanks rolled over the raging tundra.

There fore, there is no such thing as Hogsweat, or Hogsweatian, in Earth II. It is USSR, or Soviet.

Any nation that wishes to join the U.S.S.R is free to do so, but you would be my satellite state and straying away from Socialism would mean a swift "Kick up the backside" from Soviet forces.

Just thought i'd let you know, for future RP referance. Thanks.

Layarteb, could you make a note of that on the claims page please? Also, change my name from Hogsweat to Hogsweat/USSR. If you could, that would be great. Thanks.
North Germania
06-12-2004, 19:13
Note: I'll be watching you, USSR.
Hogsweat
06-12-2004, 19:18
I know you will >.>
RomeW
06-12-2004, 19:56
For how long has RomeW had West Iraq? Surely he can't claim it while i'm in the middle of an invasion without him RPing it... and also it's not shown on the maps.

This is how long I've had them:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7559423&postcount=268

November 26...well over a week ago. So I have had it for a while; and: a) I am keeping it and b) please do not drag me into the RP (i.e. leave my land alone- besides, it's all desert anyway so why would you want it?). We can work out some sort of "non-agression pact" if you want so you don't have to worry about me attacking you but don't force me to be a part of the RP. Thanks.
Commnista
06-12-2004, 20:32
Hey, I'm new to Earth II. Has anyone claimed Britain or Ireland? Failing that I would take Madagascar, Indonesia or Gibraltar.

I would appreciate it if somebody would tell me which of these are taken please and then I could choose accordingly *Humble Request*
Cotland
06-12-2004, 20:36
Hey, I'm new to Earth II. Has anyone claimed Britain or Ireland? Failing that I would take Madagascar, Indonesia or Gibraltar.

I would appreciate it if somebody would tell me which of these are taken please and then I could choose accordingly *Humble Request*

I think they're all taken. check the first page in this thread.
Cotland
06-12-2004, 20:58
IC: Cotland would like to claim San Marino (the little chunk of unclaimed land that lies in italy).

OOC: Can you please tell me how much territory my country owns, Layarteb?
North Germania
06-12-2004, 21:36
OOC:

I'd appreciate it if some of you would post here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378744

About NG invading Belarus...
Commnista
06-12-2004, 21:38
Wow, just noticed. Nobody has picked China(West) yet. Could I lay a claim to that? And also could I take Paraguay and the United Arab Emirates while I'm at it?

*Another Humble Request*
Commnista
06-12-2004, 21:40
Sorry to butt in again but I didnt see anyone owning Gibraltar either, I could b wrong but when I checked I didnt see it so if its free could I lay my paws on that as well? Or in place of Paraguay if not possible, if you are feeling generous I would like both though;), I could even do a small scale RP on storming Gib. Just to recap then: my humble request is that I be granted China (west), Paraguay, Gibraltar and United Arab Emirates. Thanks.
Cotland
06-12-2004, 22:47
Gibraltar belongs to Kriegorgrad, since it's a part of UK. Or so I've been told...
Commnista
06-12-2004, 23:01
Oh well, looks like Gibraltar wont be mine. Am I OK for West China, Paraguay and the United Arab Emirates still?
Cotland
06-12-2004, 23:22
Oh well, looks like Gibraltar wont be mine. Am I OK for West China, Paraguay and the United Arab Emirates still?

don't ask me. ask Layarteb or Colodia...
Commnista
06-12-2004, 23:40
Anybody! Can I have the three I mentioned???

Sorry for another post edit but if my population doesnt come up to scratch at the moment I could start by possesing the smallest country i.e United Arab Emirates and when my population grows I could take over Paraguay and Western China. Sorry if i sound dead greedy lol but I was just lookin at the people who have like fifteen countries with envy thinking I would be happy with my three :cool: . I will be happy with my lot if I have Western China, Paraguay and the United Arab Emirates, even if I cant take over them now I'd still like to kinda reserve them if thats possible. Thanks to whoever makes this decision. :)

Just staking my claim now;)
Pernica
06-12-2004, 23:46
should North California ever become open I'd like to claim it in advance.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 00:35
Layarteb, I have decided I don't want to be in Western Iraq anymore...I'd like to take Arkansas instead (that should get me to my limit).

Thanks.
Binthor
07-12-2004, 00:47
I would like to kinow if I could extend my >100K Sq. Mi. claim. I would like to add a large portion of land that I have found untaken on the map, since my areas are tiny and spread thin. I would like to know if I could have the following in addition to my original claim:
Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Nigeria, Benin, Togo, Ghana, Burkina, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau

All of my claims put together are <950K Sq. Mi. now, less than the 1.0M a 750M+ population can have. Please inform me if any of these territories are taken, or if you don't want me to have them, etc. Thank you.
Pyschotika
07-12-2004, 00:48
Ok why can't Nerotika have Mexico?

His population is greater then mine and my two countrys land masses equals that of Mexicos, if not...more then Mexicos. He really wants to join, but Layatarb says accepted, then someone who isn't in charge of claims says he can't have it. Umm....wtf?
Pyschotika
07-12-2004, 00:51
nvm, you obviously already divided it into provinces and gave half away. So he doesn't care anymore, doesn't want to be a part of Earth II. so nvm.....just ignore what i said -_-
RomeW
07-12-2004, 04:10
Layarteb:

I have decided to give Sardinia to The Island Of Rose.
Pyschotika
07-12-2004, 04:14
I should start a conquest to get my home state in the US!!

THE CONQUEST FOR NEBRASKA!!!
Pyschotika
07-12-2004, 04:14
^

note I was kidding around. But yea Nebraska is my home state for I live in Nebraska currently.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 04:19
Layarteb:

I have decided to give Sardinia to The Island Of Rose.

I should also mention that, to compensate, I have decided to make a claim for the Nayarit province of Mexico.
Andrehervia
07-12-2004, 05:37
Here's the list of unclaimed countries:

Africa: Guinea Bissau, Guinea, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Burundi
Asia: West China, West Mongolia, Southern Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar
Australia: Tasmania
Europe: None
North America and Canada: Parts of Mexico, parts of Nevada, parts of Arizona, parts of North Mexico, parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah, North Carolina, North West Territories, parts of Nunavut, Greenland
South America: None
Antarctica: Much. See map.
Russia: Much. See map.
Callisdrun
07-12-2004, 05:43
Hmmm.... a bit of Greenland would be nice.
Andrehervia
07-12-2004, 06:17
Nuclear reactor explodes - radiation spews across Europe (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379519)
Callisdrun
07-12-2004, 06:20
I claimeth Greenland. unless anyone minds, that is?
RomeW
07-12-2004, 06:27
I claimeth Greenland. unless anyone minds, that is?

Greenland would probably be too big, but then again it's a mass of ice so much of it isn't useful anyway.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 06:38
New Earth II News:

Rome to invest in Niger, Jordan (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7644984#post7644984)
Layarteb
07-12-2004, 06:46
Far Tortuga: Sonora and the part of Arizona are yours. Get me the land areas of those other two islands and I'll add them. Finding those eight took like an hour.

Hogsweat: His claim did come before the RP'ing of Iraq that you made. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics okay no problem. You are still under the Hogsweat account though? I like the plan you have going there with the satellites and stuff. If people join you, it'll make for some interesting and unique RP'ing (hell revolutions I might intice).

Yoboland: RP added. Nice job by the way.

North Germainia: RP added.

Commnista: Thank you for reading the second post of this thread. Paraguay is taken. United Arab Emirates is taken. The total area of the two Chinese provinces is 1,100,391.2 square miles. As a country with only 50 million people you may not claim anything in excess of 500,000 square miles. Gibraltar is owned by the person who owns the UK. Obviously you have still yet to read the first two posts in this thread.

Cotland: About time someone claimed San Marino! It's yours.

Falkland Islands (east): 2,550.21
Faroe Islands: 540.16
Gambia: 4,007.74
San Marino: 23.55
Sicily: 9,922.83
Tunisia: 63,170.17
Total: 80,214.65

Pernica: North Carolina right now is so confusing it isn't funny. Between North Germainia, Colodia, Decessive Action, and now Yerffej, who the hell knows what is going on with it. I don't...

RomeW: You and changing your damn claims. You're lucky I'm a whiz with Excell or else I would have shot you by now. You are now at 1,997,721.91 square miles, mighty close to the limit. Unless The Island of Rose posts he won't get it. If you want though it'll work as a trade if he comes in and says he claims it. Bew RP added, see FYI note in it.

Binthor: You can claim up to 1.0m square miles with your population. You have claimed 90,032.62 square miles. This is what it would look like with those nine extra claims (within bounds). They are all free as far as I can tell.

Argentina (S tip): 28,473.49
Benin: 43,482.83
Burkina Faso: 105,869.20
Cuba: 38,942.26
Equatorial Guinea: 10,830.55
Gabon: 103,346.80
Ghana: 92,100.81
Guinea: 94,925.92
Guinea-Bissau: 13,946.01
Nigeria: 356,668.80
Southampton Island: 15,912.81
Swaziland: 6,703.89
Togo: 21,924.81
Vatican City: 0.17
Total: 933,128.35

Pyschotika: Mexico was too big for his country (singular) population size. I sent him a TG but he failed to respond so others claimed away at Mexican provinces so that was that. I didn't plan it that way, it just happened.

Andrehervia: RP added and I posted. Hopefully, being so close to the Belarus situation, it will have an impact of some sort.

Callisdrun: Greenland accepted.

Andrehervia's list is now horribly out of date so ignore it for the time being. Nice job though Andrehervia, sorry it went out of use so fast
Far Tortuga
07-12-2004, 06:54
Far Tortuga: Sonora and the part of Arizona are yours. Get me the land areas of those other two islands and I'll add them. Finding those eight took like an hour.


Heh, sorry about that. I find searching for "name of place+square+mile" usually turns up good results. Anyway, Catalina is 76 miles square and San Celemente 56.
Layarteb
07-12-2004, 07:03
Updated.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 07:21
RomeW: You and changing your damn claims. You're lucky I'm a whiz with Excell or else I would have shot you by now. You are now at 1,997,721.91 square miles, mighty close to the limit. Unless The Island of Rose posts he won't get it. If you want though it'll work as a trade if he comes in and says he claims it. Bew RP added, see FYI note in it.

I thank you for your patience...I know, I'm indecisive. I just decided that my holdings in Iraq were not important (especially considering Hogsweat's moves) and Arkansas would provide more for me, so I gave my holdings in Iraq up.

I'm not going to edit my claims anymore...just add to them when necessary.

Regarding The Island Of Rose: I'll get him to post so I can trade him Sardinia. Until then I'll keep it and make no further claims.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 07:23
Heh, sorry about that. I find searching for "name of place+square+mile" usually turns up good results.

I've done that too...highly effective.
Far Tortuga
07-12-2004, 07:27
In other news, SCR expands into Sonora and Arizona (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7645167#post7645167).
Hogsweat
07-12-2004, 08:17
Thanks Layarteb, and yes, same account. Any chance of the USSR getting Novgorod, Rostov and Pskov too?
Andrehervia
07-12-2004, 10:58
Andrehervia's list is now horribly out of date so ignore it for the time being. Nice job though Andrehervia, sorry it went out of use so fast

Yeah. In retrospect, doing a list would've been pointless considering the near smash-'n'-grab that occurs whenever a bit of land's free. It was a good idea at the time though.
Pergast
07-12-2004, 15:23
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379612

Rp'ing a paras+stuff attack on a few cities around the nile delta. I checked, no-one has northeast Egypt.

OOC: Pergast needs ports. Damn country's land-locked.
Cotland
07-12-2004, 15:44
Cotland annexes San Marino

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379589
Pergast
07-12-2004, 15:47
OOC: Good for you.
Cotland
07-12-2004, 15:51
ooc: Thanks.
Pergast
07-12-2004, 15:58
OOC: You're welcome.
Chinkopodia
07-12-2004, 18:57
I believe Sarawak is free, could I claim it please? (the size is 48,342 square miles, to save you the trouble ;) ) :)
Hogsweat
07-12-2004, 18:59
I believe Sarawak is free, could I claim it please? (the size is 48,342 square miles, to save you the trouble ;) ) :)


No, since I own Malaysia and Sarawak is a state of Malaysia.
Chinkopodia
07-12-2004, 19:01
Ah. OK.
Commnista
07-12-2004, 19:44
Im gonna claim Kuwait and North Carolina if nobody objects
Hogsweat
07-12-2004, 19:54
Im gonna claim Kuwait and North Carolina if nobody objects
I don't object you claiming Kuwait, but my troops are gonna be all over it in the following times... However... you could join the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [me] and get your Kuwait claim accepted, (since i've claimed it) and then I can have bases and invade Iraq from there.
Chinkopodia
07-12-2004, 20:42
OK.......has West Mongolia been claimed from Andrehervia's list yet? If so, can I claim that? Half of Mongolia's landmass is 305,370 square miles, so I'm still OK with that. :)
Layarteb
07-12-2004, 22:51
Just FYI, the Kaliningrad Oblast, for the time being is unclaimable but will be claimable in the future.
RomeW
07-12-2004, 23:16
Just FYI, the Kaliningrad Oblast, for the time being is unclaimable but will be claimable in the future.

How so if I can ask?
The Island of Rose
08-12-2004, 00:14
Since RomeW told me to:

I claim Sardinia! I claim Sardinia! I claim Sardinia!
RomeW
08-12-2004, 00:38
Thanks Rose. Now, as that's out of the way I'd like to officially claim Nayarit in Mexico (which is roughly the same size as Sardinia).
Pergast
08-12-2004, 00:45
How fitting, Sardinia is an island...Rose Island now, to be precise...
Pernica
08-12-2004, 00:46
oh yea Layarteb I made a thread, is it good enough to be added to the list of important Earth 2 events?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379747
RomeW
08-12-2004, 01:41
How fitting, Sardinia is an island...Rose Island now, to be precise...

That played a part in my thinking...his nation is called The Island Of Rose, so I wanted to give him an island. Also because Sardinia was part of my territory and because it is close to Rome.

The RP of the handout:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7652571#post7652571
The Island of Rose
08-12-2004, 01:45
Check my sig, I have a map of my nation. Sardinia will be my Protectorate.
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 04:58
Far Tortuga: SCR RP added.

Hogsweat: Novgorod Oblast, Rostov Oblast, and Pskov Oblast added.

Andrehervia: It was a great idea it just got out-of-date way too fast.

Communista: North Carolina right now is so confusing it isn't funny. Between North Germainia, Colodia, Decessive Action, and now Yerffej, who the hell knows what is going on with it. I don't... Do you still want Kuwait?

Chinkopodia: You got it. But it's actually only 217,970.00 square miles.

RomeW: Kaliningrad is currently about to be used for the Belorussan situation with North Germainia and such. it was unclaimed and it is sort of quasi-claimed for the time being by me, not that I actually plan on keeping it.

The Island of Rose: Sardinia is yours.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 05:03
Oh. Okay thanks for clearing it up: I was just curious.

Anyway, has my claim over Nayarit been accepted? It's directly south of Sinaloa and is only 10,465 square miles. (Source (http://www.visitmexicopress.com/destinations_state.asp?destID=35&dest_state=Nayarit))
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 05:05
Yeah check the maps and the claims.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 05:18
Thanks.
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 05:20
ATTENTION

Okay, someone mentioned this (I believe it was Hogsweat) a few days ago. The topic was of a dedicated Earth II United Nations that ran itself and acted in itself separate from the main Nation-States Earth II. It certainly wouldn't be anything like it but rather a role-playing unit. It would get its own forum on our Invision Free account. So I want to know what you gentlemen think about this idea?

I do not have the resources or the time to run this as honestly running the thread itself takes up a lot of time. It would have to be an active member of Earth II and it would be run like the real United Nations, with one problem. I own New York and I am not a pro-UN guy and I am not going to be joining it so you'll need to find a new HQ for it.

The basic premise is that nations of Earth II could join it andit would be run like the real United Nations. Okay so now onto the idea. Please go to the URL below and vote in the poll.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379814
RomeW
08-12-2004, 06:11
Layarteb, I will offer Rome as the capital of the Earth II United Nations. I'll also run it if you need anyone.
Callisdrun
08-12-2004, 06:18
Layarteb, I will offer Rome as the capital of the Earth II United Nations. I'll also run it if you need anyone.

Damn, and I was going to offer San Francisco as the capital. I'll be in it, though. Rome would be a good place. Is your Rome like the real one?
RomeW
08-12-2004, 06:24
Damn, and I was going to offer San Francisco as the capital. I'll be in it, though. Rome would be a good place. Is your Rome like the real one?

That would be correct (EDIT- More or less. Obviously the Roman ruins would be rebuilt, but it's more or less the same city as in RL). Plus I'd figure that if the Roman Empire survived for so long (as my nation *is* the Roman Empire) it'd become some sort advisory figure in the world (hey, a nation that survives 2000+ years is one worth listening to), thus making it the perfect place for the UN.
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 06:25
That would be correct. Plus I'd figure that if the Roman Empire survived for so long (as my nation *is* the Roman Empire) it'd become some sort advisory figure in the world (hey, a nation that survives 2000+ years is one worth listening to), thus making it the perfect place for the UN.

Perhaps once you get a contingency you can put it to a vote, provide certain cities and have a vote to see where it goes? Democracy in the first and most fundamental step. As long as it isn't in New York though, I personally don't care. The UN HQ has been transformed into a governmental building (in Layarteb). After all, Layarteb City is NYC.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 06:37
Well, Rome is being offered as a place for the UN HQ. Any other cities interested will have to bring themselves forward.

(Or perhaps we could have a rotating HQ...one year it's in Rome, another it's in San Francisco, etc.)
Callisdrun
08-12-2004, 06:41
Well, Rome is being offered as a place for the UN HQ. Any other cities interested will have to bring themselves forward.

(Or perhaps we could have a rotating HQ...one year it's in Rome, another it's in San Francisco, etc.)

Main/European branch- Rome, North American branch- San Francisco, Asian Branch-...Tokyo? hmm
Far Tortuga
08-12-2004, 06:41
SCR would probably join, if only to gain access to another forum for their "Colodia is a bunch of imperialist pigs!" banter.
Colodia
08-12-2004, 06:44
SCR would probably join, if only to gain access to another forum for their "Colodia is a bunch of imperialist pigs!" banter.
...

link?
Far Tortuga
08-12-2004, 06:47
...

link?

Oh I don't really spam the forums calling you names. I just drop hints to it in my posts (ICly I consider your Socal holdings rightfully mine, so theres always some grumbling). My introductionary post makes mention of it, as well as my expansion one.
Colodia
08-12-2004, 06:48
Oh I don't really spam the forums calling you names. I just drop hints to it in my posts (ICly I consider your Socal holdings rightfully mine, so theres always some grumbling). My introductionary post makes mention of it, as well as my expansion one.
ahh well....okay then. Er...um...

yes.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 06:50
Main/European branch- Rome, North American branch- San Francisco, Asian Branch-...Tokyo? hmm

Well, this Earth II is different than the RL Earth, so Tokyo may not be the city we think it is. Though it's an idea.
Pergast
08-12-2004, 07:02
If you want a good place for a UN summit, Dresden's very nice this time of year...
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 07:04
If you want a good place for a UN summit, Dresden's very nice this time of year...

Aeq ever get back to you on Saxony and Bavaria?
RomeW
08-12-2004, 07:41
Aeq ever get back to you on Saxony and Bavaria?

Though, in all fairness, Layarteb, Aequatio's last post was nearly a month. Pergast is a lot more active.
Marimaia
08-12-2004, 08:56
Well, this Earth II is different than the RL Earth, so Tokyo may not be the city we think it is. Though it's an idea.

Tokyo's still an ultra-modern techno-wonderland; it's just that Emperor Yamikuma (the leader of Earth II Marimaia) has more power than the RL Emperor. There's still democracy, but there's also a stronger secret police and it's slightly more paternalistic. Also, this Japan still has an empire, albeit one which has better civil rights than the RL version.

The Earth II UN would be more than welcome to situate the Asian branch in Tokyo.
Commnista
08-12-2004, 09:23
I dont wish to own Kuwait if it is simply going to become a sattelite state of your Socialist Union. Being a capitalist can I just claim North Carolina? My meagre population will still cover that. Plllleaseeeee confirm this. Many thanks.

Commnista
Hogsweat
08-12-2004, 17:09
Yes, I mentioned that U.N thing to you on AIM.

I vote for the U.N Asian Branch to be in Kuala Lumpur because;
I thought of the idea [:P]
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was an important player in the RL UN, since it made an opposition to the Western UN. We could make this same opposition.. some interesting arguments could crop up. Especially if its based in Kuala Lumpur. It's also a pretty exotic location... something more than Tokyo.
Hogsweat
08-12-2004, 17:11
Oh yeah, and I made a forum for it :P

Forum (http://s7.invisionfree.com/The_Earth_II_UN/)
Commnista
08-12-2004, 17:24
Right, so North Carolina is too confusing. Damn. Can I just take Colorado, North East Egypt(that unclaimed bit on the map at the top right of Egypt) and Gabon (Gabon is of almost negligible size in Africa) then? Im thinking a base in the Rocky Mountains, exxxcelent. Could anyone please confirm this? I think my population can cover these three tiny provinces.

Many Thanks

Commnista
Hogsweat
08-12-2004, 17:28
Basically I thought it could run like this;
There are sections for each part of the world;
North America
South America
Europe
Asia
Asia Minor
Africa

Each one has a delegate. The delegate is selected by a vote.. you can run a vote on those forums. Only people located in the area can vote. You must state when you vote so we know the voting is fair. The delegate selected chooses a city for the HQ for that region. The delegate is also put on the UN Security Council representing that area. The voting polls must be constant so it can change.

How does that sound?
Chinkopodia
08-12-2004, 17:41
It's good. :) I've joined.
Hogsweat
08-12-2004, 17:43
Nice.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 18:19
Basically I thought it could run like this;
There are sections for each part of the world;
North America
South America
Europe
Asia
Asia Minor
Africa

You've forgotten Australia and Oceania. Also, I think "Asia Minor" should instead be "Middle East"...if Asia Minor had a delegate, they'd just have one nation (Zeronia).
Hogsweat
08-12-2004, 18:22
Yeah, I forgot Australasia/Oceania. Mhm yes, Asia Minor = The Middle East. Also, how about we have Russia seperate from Europe. Layarteb has said that me and you are supposed to be the U.N mods for the site.
RomeW
08-12-2004, 18:27
Also, how about we have Russia seperate from Europe.

That works. Or we could place the oblasts in the region where they're supposed to be (i.e. everything west of the Urals is in Europe, everything else is in Asia)
Tanuio
08-12-2004, 18:30
We'll like to claim the Mexican Provinces of: Veracruz, Tamaulipas, Campeche, Quintana Roo, and Chiapas. I don't think is this a big claim but I started a thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379926
Commnista
08-12-2004, 19:04
Just posting to tell everyone to scrap the claims I have made. I have just revived my old nation and now will be posting as the Principality of Gintonpar.

Many Thanks
Commnista

(the last post)
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 19:06
Communista: Concerning North East Egypt (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379612). Gabon is claimed. Colorado is free though. You can definitely have that if you like.

Tanuio: Mexico (Campeche Province, Chipas Province, Quintana Roo Province, Tamaulipas Province, Veracruz Province) are yours.

RomeW & Hogsweat: Please use either the Earth II UN post or the forum for further UN discussion.

RomeW: Yes Aequatio is not as active as Pergast but it is still his land and he is not NS-inactive so he is given the same benefit as everyone, that their claim is protected as long as they do not exceed or meet 28 days of inactivity in NS.

Mexican map added!
Hotdogs2
08-12-2004, 19:42
OOC: Excellent.

I would like to claim Western China, i do this on the recomendations of my friend Hogsweat.

Although i have not Rped for some time, especcialy not with Hotdogs2 i can RP, and hope to improve my skills considerably.

Not sure what to say other than this, i hope i will be joining you soon!
Gintonpar
08-12-2004, 22:36
Like I said in my last post as Commnista I have now moved on from my old nation and with the Principality of Gintonpar's somewhat larger population of around 600million I now claim Colorado, along with half of whats left of Central Mexico if thats also possible, as my population can now handle it. I checked the map on the first page for my reference on that, so could I take Colorado and half of the central provinces remaining in Mexico. I aint asking for that top right corner of Mexico, just half of the jumbled central provinces that remain, but I DEFINETELY want Colorado, just to clarify:) Could somebody confirm all this?

Many Thanks
Gintonpar

(I confess my ignorace as to what these Mexican provinces are called so Im just asking for half the central ones, thanks again;))
Cotland
08-12-2004, 22:52
Cotland wish to claim Okinawa for Cotland. It will serve as our outpost in the Far East.
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 23:13
Like I said in my last post as Commnista I have now moved on from my old nation and with the Principality of Gintonpar's somewhat larger population of around 600million I now claim Colorado, along with half of whats left of Central Mexico if thats also possible, as my population can now handle it. I checked the map on the first page for my reference on that, so could I take Colorado and half of the central provinces remaining in Mexico. I aint asking for that top right corner of Mexico, just half of the jumbled central provinces that remain, but I DEFINETELY want Colorado, just to clarify:) Could somebody confirm all this?

Many Thanks
Gintonpar

(I confess my ignorace as to what these Mexican provinces are called so Im just asking for half the central ones, thanks again;))

I think that you will be fine however, you will need to list what provinces you want to claim. Look at the Mexico (Real-Life) map in conjunction with the Earth II one and tell me which ones you want.

Cotland: I believe Okinawa is owned by who owns Japan.
Colodia
08-12-2004, 23:28
Layarteb, don't suppose you could do me a favor and show me how much land I have so I can see.
Layarteb
08-12-2004, 23:57
Layarteb, don't suppose you could do me a favor and show me how much land I have so I can see.


Brazil (north): 1,643,244.00
California (south): 80,497.08
Colombia: 439,735.60
Costa Rica: 19,729.82
Nicaragua: 49,997.91
Panama: 30,193.19
Virginia: 42,804.06
Washington D.C.: 6.95
West Virginia: 24,250.69
Total: 2,330,459.30
Pernica
09-12-2004, 00:14
Pernica seeks to strike deal to aquire Northern California

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379960
The Knight Templars
09-12-2004, 00:52
I would like to lay claim to Qatar and northeastern Egypt.
Is this possible?
Pernica
09-12-2004, 05:03
Alaska: 591004
Nevada: 110,561 - the small section RomeW owns in the southern tip= 100,561
Washington 68,139
Oregon: 97,073
Total: 856777sq miles

If my numbers are correct (my addition is just off the top of my head)
and I just found and used this website.
http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaGeography/UsaGeography.htm

I'd like to claim the southern 2/3 of Ellesmere Island (2/3 x 75,767=about 50000) located in Northern Canada and that small island with Resolute on it, dunno name or size. and Utah (84,899)
RomeW
09-12-2004, 06:00
It's on Cornwallis Island.
Gintonpar
09-12-2004, 09:02
Ah, didnt know we had the provinces listed. In that case, in addition to Colorado I would like to claim:

Diatrito Federale
Michoacan
Guerrero
Oaxaca
Mexico (accent over e)
Hidalgo
Tlaxacale
Pueblo
Could I also claim Oklahoma and Missouri because my population does cover it I think. Tell me if Im being greedy lol but with the 3 states and the Mexican provinces (most of which are tiny) I would be satisfied.

So its basiacally Colorado, Oklahoma, Missouri and the Mexican states I mentioned. Could someone confirm this?
Deepest Thanks

Gintonpar
Hotdogs2
09-12-2004, 18:11
OOC: Could my claim for Western China be confirmed please?

I may also decide to claim(if possible) some "outposts" in other areas of the world.

If someone could tell me what smaller nations/states there are left in the continnts of america(north and south), Australia(and surrounding areas), Africa and Europe i could possibly claim to act as "outposts" if i get Western China.
Cotland
09-12-2004, 18:55
Cotland: I believe Okinawa is owned by who owns Japan.

sorry. I checked on the map and the CTRL+F and it didn't say it was claimed by anyone.. Is there anywhere else in the Far East I can claim land?
Hogsweat
09-12-2004, 19:05
Sorry Cotland, all gone.
Cotland
09-12-2004, 19:15
Sorry Cotland, all gone.
damn... is there anywhere in the pacific left then?
Hogsweat
09-12-2004, 19:17
I don't think so, unless you want to lendlease land on my Virgin islands.
Cotland
09-12-2004, 19:26
I don't think so, unless you want to lendlease land on my Virgin islands.

hm... an interresting idea... let me just check where the virgin islands lie, and I'll get back to you.

EDIT: Is it the American or the British islands you have?
Cotland
09-12-2004, 20:51
Well, I see that Tasmania still is open. I'd like to claim Tasmania under the Cottish standart. If the territory is to large, I'll renounce my claim to Gambia. Tasmania = 26,000-square mile
The Knight Templars
09-12-2004, 22:02
OOC: Can I have my claimed confirmed?
I don't have any other territory, so forgive me for being antsy.
If I can't have both, then just Northeast Egypt.
Cotland
09-12-2004, 23:56
bump
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 00:07
Hotdogs2: China (Tibet Province, Xinjang Province) are yours. As far as the outpost claims, check an atlas and crtl+f to see what's taken and what's now. Our maps help out as well.

Cotland: Again, Okinawa is part of Japan and Japan is claimed by Marimaia. Tasmania is fine though.

The Knight Templars: Qatar can be yours. However, in reference to north-east Egypt I have this to point out http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379612.

Pernica: Are you going to claim NE Egypt yet or continue the RP until you make the claim? In reference to those new claims of Utah and the islands.



Alaska: 663,267.10
Cornwallis Island: 2,700.79
Ellesmere Island: 50,006.06
Nevada (north): 93,981.88
Oregon: 98,466.09
Utah: 84,898.85
Washington: 71,360.95
Total: 1,064,681.72



You're over by 64,681.72, which means you're going to need to edit. All of the values come from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/).

Gintonpar: Yes those claims are all acceptable.
Cotland
10-12-2004, 00:10
Thanks Layarbet. I'll let you open an embassy in my nation if you'd like...
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 00:25
Thanks Layarbet. I'll let you open an embassy in my nation if you'd like...

Well I don't suppose it would hurt, despite your political allignment. Click the link below (factbook) and apply there.
The Knight Templars
10-12-2004, 01:38
Thanks.
Are there also threads on western Iraq and/or that tiny piece below it?
I looked and I couldn't find any, and if this is the case I lay claim to them as Qatar fits fairly easily under my limit.
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 01:39
Thanks.
Are there also threads on western Iraq and/or that tiny piece below it?
I looked and I couldn't find any, and if this is the case I lay claim to them as Qatar fits fairly easily under my limit.

Hogsweat is having fun there
Pernica
10-12-2004, 01:42
Pernica: Are you going to claim NE Egypt yet or continue the RP until you make the claim? In reference to those new claims of Utah and the islands.



Alaska: 663,267.10
Cornwallis Island: 2,700.79
Ellesmere Island: 50,006.06
Nevada (north): 93,981.88
Oregon: 98,466.09
Utah: 84,898.85
Washington: 71,360.95
Total: 1,064,681.72



You're over by 64,681.72, which means you're going to need to edit. All of the values come from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/).

Gintonpar: Yes those claims are all acceptable.

wait do you count water as area?
Alaska at 570,374sq mi for land and 86,051 sq.mi of water
http://www.50states.com/alaska.htm

the rest are seem right however I am currently rethinking Ellesmere Island thing. What's this about Egypt? I'm just gonna propose to Callisdrun for the moment that Pernica be given access to it's ports and the contruction of an international highway system between us that Pernica will pay for and maintain while also allowing Californian Callisdrun citiznes access to it as well.
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 01:49
wait do you count water as area?
Alaska at 570,374sq mi for land and 86,051 sq.mi of water
http://www.50states.com/alaska.htm

the rest are seem right however I am currently rethinking Ellesmere Island thing. What's this about Egypt? I'm just gonna propose to Callisdrun for the moment that Pernica be given access to it's ports and the contruction of an international highway system between us that Pernica will pay for and maintain while also allowing Californian Callisdrun citiznes access to it as well.

Yes. Claiming a state you get its land and what water it controls, in addition to countries. GL with the highway.
Pernica
10-12-2004, 01:55
so you count the water into the square miles? If so would I still be able to get Utah and that island with resolute on it?
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 02:15
so you count the water into the square miles? If so would I still be able to get Utah and that island with resolute on it?

Then you'd be 14,000 and change over. The margin of error for the puppets is 7,500 and the same here.
Pernica
10-12-2004, 02:20
okay then I guess I'll drop the island and cut just a small sliver of Utah off that would put me over.
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 02:22
1,011,974.87 will be you're total without the two islands.

Then all you need to shave off is 4,474.87 square miles. That's tiny, easily done somewhere.
Pernica
10-12-2004, 02:31
lol how about some remote chunk of Alaska?
Layarteb
10-12-2004, 04:09
The Kingdom of Forgotten Warriors (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380343)

Check it out. It'll be a guaranteed amazing RP!
Pernica
10-12-2004, 04:47
got your telegram layarteb and sent one back, sounds good to me.
Nerotika
10-12-2004, 04:51
ok sence I couldn`t get mexico :p I`ll take Nebraska and if possible Kansas is this ok?
Gintonpar
10-12-2004, 09:02
Thanks for confirming that layarteb
But would you mind if i took Morelos, Collma, Jaliaco, Guanajaro, Queretaro and San Luis Potoai as well because I am sandwiching Morelos in the centre of Mexico (I thought I'd included it before, stupid me) and I would like to anchor my borders with Rome W at the Northern tip of my Mexican territories. Basically I just want whats left of Central Mexico as my population should cover it and I would enjoy being a bulwark of democracy and capitalism there. Also I would like to consolidate my position in that area as my population needs an outlet lol. Thanks for the stuff you've confirmed already though:)
Deepest Thanks
Gintonpar
Hogsweat
10-12-2004, 17:04
Thanks.
Are there also threads on western Iraq and/or that tiny piece below it?
I looked and I couldn't find any, and if this is the case I lay claim to them as Qatar fits fairly easily under my limit.


Yes, there is one : Operation: Liberate Asia. It's on the front page. But your right, there isn't Iraq in the name. You can try and claim them but that's if you can fight my troops there.
Hotdogs2
10-12-2004, 17:16
OOC:

i need some help, I tried the Ctrl+F thing but when i typed something in to search it didnt work...could someone help me there please?

I'll look at an atlas and post any places i think i could do with when i get the chance.
Celtayoshi
10-12-2004, 17:54
You can only search one page at a time, try searching the first page, if you still ahve trouble ask layarteb and he will help you out, or ask me, I will also look if layarteb is busy.
Jagonia
10-12-2004, 18:08
I would like to claim Tonga if possible.
Tanuio
11-12-2004, 00:49
Could I have the Tabasco Province in Mexico in addition to my previous choices? Just to connect all my lands.
Pyschotika
11-12-2004, 04:12
Bump

Nerotika is my friend and he really wants to be accepted. So could you check his claim please.
Layarteb
11-12-2004, 07:36
Nerotika: Yes you can have both Kansas and Nebraska.

Gintonpar: Yes all of those are acceptable.

Hotdogs2: What are you looking for that CRTL + F isn't working? All of the spellings are correct (I had to put them all through Wikipedia and from there it was copy + paste).

Jagonia: Welcome to Earth II. Tonga is yours.

Tanuio: Sure you can have that province.
RomeW
11-12-2004, 07:52
Layarteb: Is Jarvis Island unclaimed? If so, I'd like to have it.

Information: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/dq.html
Layarteb
11-12-2004, 08:28
Layarteb: Is Jarvis Island unclaimed? If so, I'd like to have it.

Information: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/dq.html

No it's not. You want it?
RomeW
11-12-2004, 08:34
Yeah. Even though it's only 4 sq. mi. or so. It'd make a great resort.
Gintonpar
11-12-2004, 11:18
Thanks for clearing up my Mexican claims Layarteb;)

Ive created a mini RP for my annexation of Mexico here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380455
The Knight Templars
11-12-2004, 21:51
There seems to be a small, circular province in Mexico that is either southeast Tabasco or Southeat Campeche. Either way, it is unoccupied and I would like to claim it.
Layarteb
11-12-2004, 22:41
There seems to be a small, circular province in Mexico that is either southeast Tabasco or Southeat Campeche. Either way, it is unoccupied and I would like to claim it.

Actually that's part of Tabasco. Must be a black line in the wrong place on the map.
Pernica
11-12-2004, 23:14
Layarteb how would I go about joining the NAANP?
Layarteb
11-12-2004, 23:15
Layarteb how would I go about joining the NAANP?

We're in the process of restructuring that and we'll let everyone know.
Yerffej
12-12-2004, 00:20
Yerffej would like to claim the Mexican province of Chihuahua.
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 00:27
Yerffej would like to claim the Mexican province of Chihuahua.

Tis all yours...Welcome back...
Yerffej
12-12-2004, 00:31
Tis all yours...Welcome back...
Good, good. My attempts at gaining control of North Carolina (and subsequently Louisiana) failed, but maybe Chihuahua will prove good enough.
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 00:34
What's the deal with North Carolina? Who owns it?
Yerffej
12-12-2004, 01:09
Colodia and a couple others are fighting for it, I suppose.
The Knight Templars
12-12-2004, 01:50
Oh. A swing and a miss.
I'l try again then.
I would like to claim the Mexican province of Aguascalientes
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 02:25
Oh. A swing and a miss.
I'l try again then.
I would like to claim the Mexican province of Aguascalientes

Mexico (Aguascalientes Province) is yours.
Colodia
12-12-2004, 03:01
What's the deal with North Carolina? Who owns it?
I give up. Seriously this time. I cannot deal with any extensive RPing an invasion of NC would cause. Give it to whoever, I might want to snatch it from them in a month or two after the semester is over and I can breathe easy again.
Skeelzania
12-12-2004, 04:00
I think the more pressing question is "WHY do people want North Carolina?" I mean, come on! Its North Carolina!
RomeW
12-12-2004, 04:04
I think the more pressing question is "WHY do people want North Carolina?" I mean, come on! Its North Carolina!

Myrtle Beach? *no, wait, that's in South Carolina*
Charlotte? Charlestown?

*is at a loss*
Risban
12-12-2004, 04:42
Hello! I was wondering if the Empire of Risban could claim the following islands in the Mediterranean Sea(in order of most wanted):
1. Crete
2. Rhodes
3. Malta
4. Corsica
5. Ibiza
6. Minorca

At least three or four of these islands would be nice.
Nikolaos The Great
12-12-2004, 04:43
Hello! I was wondering if the Empire of Risban could claim the following islands in the Mediterranean Sea(in order of most wanted):
1. Crete
2. Rhodes
3. Malta
4. Corsica
5. Ibiza
6. Minorca

At least three or four of these islands would be nice.
Crete and Rhodes are apart of Greece which I have claims too so you can't have them.
Pernica
12-12-2004, 06:28
Pernican Pacification of Utah

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7685546#post7685546
Colodia
12-12-2004, 10:04
I think the more pressing question is "WHY do people want North Carolina?" I mean, come on! Its North Carolina!
Well there's nothing specifically special about it. It's simply the whole issue of having more power along the East Coast I would assume...

that...IS...what we're all fighting for...right?
RomeW
12-12-2004, 10:33
Well there's nothing specifically special about it. It's simply the whole issue of having more power along the East Coast I would assume...

that...IS...what we're all fighting for...right?

Although I'm not involved in it, I'd agree with that statement.
Gintonpar
12-12-2004, 11:01
Can I please claim the last two Mexican provinces of Zacalecas and Nuavo Leon. Lets seal up Mexico once and for all ;)

Deepest Thanks
The Principality of Gintonpar
Cotland
12-12-2004, 11:43
Cotland colonize Tasmania

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380302
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 21:33
Risban: All of those are claimed through various other places.

Skeelzania: North Carolina is land. Who doesn't want land?

Gintopar: Nuevo León and Zacatecas are yours and Mexico is officially closed.
Gintonpar
12-12-2004, 21:51
To: The Knights Templars
From: Gintonpar
RE: Aguascalientes Province

We do not wish ill against your nation. However your occupation of the Aguascalientes Province of Mexico is obviously an irritation to us as it would be to you if the positions were reversed. We do not wish violence against you but we will not hesitate to use it if your occupation continues. As you can see, the province is surrounded by our Mexican possesions and it is an insult to our pride that the Aguascalientes Province is not ours. We truly do not wish violence against your proud nation, and in return for the province we will become your allies, protect your interests in Qatar, open trade with you, and defend your other claims that you have abroad. I will state again though, that if our demands for the handover to us of the Aguascalientes Province are not met, then we will use overwhelming force to eject you from it. Please think on our generous offer.

Deepest Regards and Respect,
The Principality of Gintonpar
Risban
12-12-2004, 22:03
Alright then... I'm pretty sure I didn't see these ones on the list, and they are sovereign, so no other country holds them...

1. Monaco
2. San Marino
3. Vatican City
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 22:16
Alright then... I'm pretty sure I didn't see these ones on the list, and they are sovereign, so no other country holds them...

1. Monaco
2. San Marino
3. Vatican City

You need check the claims before you make posts. Until you do so I will not accept any of your claims, especially these which are also ALL TAKEN.
Gintonpar
12-12-2004, 22:19
OOC: Btw here is a link to my pacification of the final Mexican provinces.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381035
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 22:22
OOC: Btw here is a link to my pacification of the final Mexican provinces.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381035

Added it. Just make sure that in the future you put [Earth II] on it as it says in the first post.
Yerffej
12-12-2004, 22:57
Despite what y'all would make of it, I'd like to add North Carolina to my list.
Layarteb
12-12-2004, 22:59
Despite what y'all would make of it, I'd like to add North Carolina to my list.

And to end all the chaos I'm saying OKAY.
Cotland
12-12-2004, 23:05
ooc: you haven't added my tasmania claim in the first page (post 3, I think, the one where all the nation names and their claims are). just wanna keep the confusion down...
Yerffej
12-12-2004, 23:17
And Kuwait. Please.
Gintonpar
12-12-2004, 23:57
Added it. Just make sure that in the future you put [Earth II] on it as it says in the first post.
Sorry bout that, slipped my mind.
Tyrandis
13-12-2004, 00:21
Psst: Tasmania is part of Australia. And attacking it will be considered an invasion of Tyrandisan sovereign territory.
Layarteb
13-12-2004, 02:07
Cotland: My mistake. I did not know that Tasmania was part of Austrailia, I thought it was independent.

Yerffej: Operation: Liberate Asia (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378665)
Pernica
13-12-2004, 03:03
ugh what am I doing wrong? no one ever responds to the roleplays I try to make. I must just suck at this :headbang:
Pernica
13-12-2004, 05:47
oh yea, maybe this isn't the correct thread layarteb but what would be the first steps in joining the North American Alliance. I'm trying to get active in this Earth II community.

Edit: you also seem to know your way around military hardware amazingly well, what resources would you suggest so I can educate myself on this stuff. I'm guessing it would be pretty difficult to do any real military conflicts with out
Layarteb
13-12-2004, 07:17
oh yea, maybe this isn't the correct thread layarteb but what would be the first steps in joining the North American Alliance. I'm trying to get active in this Earth II community.

Edit: you also seem to know your way around military hardware amazingly well, what resources would you suggest so I can educate myself on this stuff. I'm guessing it would be pretty difficult to do any real military conflicts with out

We're still working on the NAANP thing. Now as far as military hardware and schtuff goes, there are a ton of places on the internet. Search Global Security, Designation-Systems, Sinodefence, and basically a vast many places. I've really been a military guru my whole life, reading about this stuff since I was younger. So it's been a long time in the goings.
Hogsweat
13-12-2004, 08:58
Heh.
Global Security (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/)

Sino Defence (www.sinodefence.com)

Army Technology (http://www.army-technology.com/)

Naval Technology (http://www.naval-technology.com/)

Airforce Technology (http://www.arirforce-technology.com/)

They're some pretty good ones. Remember though, always make sure you can back up your tech with good writing.
Gintonpar
13-12-2004, 18:01
Pernica I havnt personally read your posts but you probably arent a bad writer. Its just that the titles of your last few posts have only been about you and your territory, maybe try to get involved in national politics rather than your own conquests or domestic issues.
Mattvia
13-12-2004, 18:20
I don't know if New Zealand has been taken, but can I have the North Island of New Zealand and the Marlborough, Nelson and Tasman provinces, or districts or what ever they have over the, which is the north tip of the South Island. Thanks.
Cotland
13-12-2004, 18:32
I don't know if New Zealand has been taken, but can I have the North Island of New Zealand and the Marlborough, Nelson and Tasman provinces, or districts or what ever they have over the, which is the north tip of the South Island. Thanks.

OOC: Sorry, that's been taken by Tyrandis.
----
Ok, I'll try again. I've checked with CTRL+F in the first page, so if anyone claim to have claimed the territory I'm claiming now, go hang yourselves!

IC: The Cottish naval task force under Admiral Hamza Garoosh have landed on Micronesia, examined the islands, and after finding no government, claimed all islands in Micronesia for Cotland.

Cotland also want to claim Franz Josef Land (Northern Russia islands, right next to Svalbard), Novaya Zemlya (It'll be a perfect place to go fishing and freeze the meat... :p) and Kaliningrad (once you're finished with it, Layarteb, naturally).
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 03:10
OOC: Sorry, that's been taken by Tyrandis.
----
Ok, I'll try again. I've checked with CTRL+F in the first page, so if anyone claim to have claimed the territory I'm claiming now, go hang yourselves!

IC: The Cottish naval task force under Admiral Hamza Garoosh have landed on Micronesia, examined the islands, and after finding no government, claimed all islands in Micronesia for Cotland.

Cotland also want to claim Franz Josef Land (Northern Russia islands, right next to Svalbard), Novaya Zemlya (It'll be a perfect place to go fishing and freeze the meat... :p) and Kaliningrad (once you're finished with it, Layarteb, naturally).

So ye want

Micronesia
Franz Josef Land
Novaya Zemlya
Kaliningrad*

I put a star on that last one because you should check The Kingdom of Forgotten Warriors RP.
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 03:29
Well Cullenus has been deleted because of inactivity. Therefore Florida and a part of Antarctica are now available.
North Germania
14-12-2004, 03:30
Note: Belarus is now owned by North Germania.
Pernica
14-12-2004, 03:35
Note: Belarus is now owned by North Germania.

congrats :cool:
Colodia
14-12-2004, 06:38
Well since Florida is up, I'd like to claim it. That should keep me well under my total...I would think.
Cotland
14-12-2004, 16:29
So ye want

Micronesia
Franz Josef Land
Novaya Zemlya
Kaliningrad*

I put a star on that last one because you should check The Kingdom of Forgotten Warriors RP.

Yeah, I know. I meant that I'd like it after you were finished vith it. So... does this mean that the other claims have been granted?
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 16:50
Colodia: Florida is yours.

Cotland: Micronesia (I could have swore someone claimed it but I find no record of it so it is yours), Novaya Zemlya, and Franz Josef Land are yours now. Kaliningrad will be under "fire" for a long time to come now.
Cotland
14-12-2004, 16:56
No problems. If you want some help in Kaliningrad, just give the word, and I'll send a few brigades.
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 17:06
No problems. If you want some help in Kaliningrad, just give the word, and I'll send a few brigades.

Trust me, you don't want forces in Kaliningrad. If you think the situation in RL-Iraq is bad Kaliningrad makes that look like a peacekeeping operation.
Cotland
14-12-2004, 17:10
Trust me, you don't want forces in Kaliningrad. If you think the situation in RL-Iraq is bad Kaliningrad makes that look like a peacekeeping operation.

OK. At least let me place my satellites at your disposal
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 17:14
OK. At least let me place my satellites at your disposal

LOL I got one up there already plus RQ-1 Predators. The thing is the insurgency isn't much that can be monitored from high above.
Cotland
14-12-2004, 17:23
LOL I got one up there already plus RQ-1 Predators. The thing is the insurgency isn't much that can be monitored from high above.

*sighs* Very well. At least I've offered support. Can I at least place a carrier group in the Baltic? That way I get to partisipate and improve my RP skills.
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 17:25
You can put one there but I doubt the nations around will be too happy about that and secondly I'm not going to allow you to fly over Kaliningrad in any support. It's an internal affair (hence insurgency) and we have it fully under control.
Gintonpar
14-12-2004, 17:37
We now send a final warning to The Knights Templars, we have telegrammed you and posted on this forum about you releasing the Aguscalientes Province of Mexico to us, now if a reply is not given in 1(RL) day you can consider our two nations at war.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

OOC: We know you have been active as well because in your nation profile it says you were, anyway, theres still time to actually reply to my telegram if you want a peaceful solution to the conflict.
Layarteb
14-12-2004, 17:38
:: I sense another RP Brewing ::
Gintonpar
14-12-2004, 17:41
Cotland, I may need help in subduing The Knights Templars elsewhere in the world if you wish to assist. Our troops fought well together in the Belarusian war and I respect you as a nation. We can deal with The Knights Templars in the Aguscalientes province, but as we do not know their other dispositions on Earth II we would be grateful for any help we recieve against them whereever they decide to pop up. We should be allies Cotland, I extend the hand of friendship to your nation.

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar
Gintonpar
14-12-2004, 17:45
:: I sense another RP Brewing ::

Quite possibly, although Aguscalientes Province is tiny, it is a thorn in our side as it is in the middle of our Mexican provinces. We do not require or ask for any military assistance in that area, but if The Knights Templars choose the path of violence elsewhere in the World, and refuse the friendship that we are offering them and have offered them in the past, then conflict would be the only way to remove them from the Aguscalientes Province, which is ours by right as it is within our Mexican lands. Just to make it clear to The Knights Templars, I desperately want a peaceful solution to this issue, but if you choose to either ignore me, or choose the path of war, then war is what you shall have.

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar
Cotland
14-12-2004, 18:00
You can put one there but I doubt the nations around will be too happy about that and secondly I'm not going to allow you to fly over Kaliningrad in any support. It's an internal affair (hence insurgency) and we have it fully under control.

Ok, ok I'll let you handle this on your own. But if you need or want help, don't hesitate to ask.

Also, can I claim north-eastern Egypt? It's unclaimed, and it's a shame that it remains so colorless :p

Finally, can you tell me how much territory (square miles) I have please?

Cotland, I may need help in subduing The Knights Templars elsewhere in the world if you wish to assist. Our troops fought well together in the Belarusian war and I respect you as a nation. We can deal with The Knights Templars in the Aguscalientes province, but as we do not know their other dispositions on Earth II we would be grateful for any help we recieve against them whereever they decide to pop up. We should be allies Cotland, I extend the hand of friendship to your nation.

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar

We will be happy to assist.

I've done a little research, and the Knights Templar hold the Aguascalientes province and Qatar. I'll send a few subs to the Persian Gulf to keep watch.
Gintonpar
14-12-2004, 18:18
Your assistance is appreciated and is most kind. There is unlilkely to be much military action because of the small size of The Knights Templars territories and the fact that the Aguscalientes province is so far from any help from Qatar. Be sure that we will back you to the hilt on any problems you have after your backing has been granted for this province of mine.

OOC: If you check the Belarus rebuilding post on the forums http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381357, you will see that I have proposed a non-aggression pact between Gintonpar, North Germania, Cotland and Layarteb. All of you check that out and reply on that thread if you are interested.