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Hirgizstan
05-09-2006, 18:30
Great post dude, not only do you sound impertinent but you alsotell us FA about your intentions. Pretty hard to do that in so many words.
First off I'd like to know which E2 member gave you permission, to see if you (or they) have any legitimacy. Then perhaps you could tell us the nature of said terrorists and perhaps then we can all make more informed decisions.
Azimeth
05-09-2006, 20:12
omg plx stp being so men to me i m nly tring 2 gt my rpz up lol :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:
Rusgorod
05-09-2006, 20:44
Hi guys, this is Pushka, shit did not turn out as I expected so here I am for the next 5-6 years. I did go to Russia this summer though, anyways, unless any of the admins have a problem with me getting back into E2 I'll get back in a bit later, want this nation to grow up a bit first.
Cotland
05-09-2006, 22:00
Great post dude, not only do you sound impertinent but you alsotell us FA about your intentions. Pretty hard to do that in so many words.
First off I'd like to know which E2 member gave you permission, to see if you (or they) have any legitimacy. Then perhaps you could tell us the nature of said terrorists and perhaps then we can all make more informed decisions.
Hirgy, give the man a break and stop bitching. Personally, I think it sounds like a good idea, and it would make for a good RP I think. I'd be willing to participate in said RP...
omg plx stp being so men to me i m nly tring 2 gt my rpz up lol :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:
Well, I've got to hand it to you. Now you definately sound like a n00b.

Oh btw. Posting links to other RPGs outside Jolt is considered advertising and is illegal as per the rules the moderators have posted. I recommend you stop it. Now.
Pantheaa
05-09-2006, 22:08
Before I do anything further, though most of you have no Idea I was doing anything at all, I am going to be making terrorist sort of attacks on certain nations of Earth II. I have discussed with an unnamed member of Earth II who owns a nice amount of land in order for my group to exsist. I dont want to make any posts untill you have given permission to me. Keep in kmind though terrorist attacks are suppose to be random and not knowen so this message is strictly OOC of cource and it would be rather cheap if suddenly terror threat alerts became stronger in every country. My targets will not be names untill after the fact, as well as the person hosting me. I was wondering though if there was anything in your charter that will not allow me to do this, I read through it but I might have missed somthing.


how exactly are you going to carry out terrorist attacks when most nations on E2 have militarized borders and have strict guidelines into coming into a country. I couldn't even get factory workers into Bjornoya, how are you going to get ordinary people in?

Also, i have a policy like Israel so if terrorist attack my nation im chasing after them no matter what nation they hide out in
Hawdawg
06-09-2006, 00:04
Before I do anything further, though most of you have no Idea I was doing anything at all, I am going to be making terrorist sort of attacks on certain nations of Earth II. I have discussed with an unnamed member of Earth II who owns a nice amount of land in order for my group to exsist. I dont want to make any posts untill you have given permission to me. Keep in kmind though terrorist attacks are suppose to be random and not knowen so this message is strictly OOC of cource and it would be rather cheap if suddenly terror threat alerts became stronger in every country. My targets will not be names untill after the fact, as well as the person hosting me. I was wondering though if there was anything in your charter that will not allow me to do this, I read through it but I might have missed somthing.

For the sake of the RP you are going to have to name the host nation IC'ly at least so it can be established that you are in fact operating inside an E II nation. You are also going to have to name specifics in your attacks. "I released Sarin Gas on all of Texas" won't get it done in a RP. While I agree that it would be difficult if not impossible to have prior knowledge of your plans or to totally prevent any terrorist activity, it can almost be expected that retaliation will come along with exposure of your activities if you lash out at nations. I have to agree with Pantheaa, it will be difficult to enter most nations in Earth II and when/if your terrorists do get in they most certainly will have a difficult for them to get out alive once they perform there attack. I like the RP idea, just remember once intel is gathered about who is involved and where they are it will probably hit the fan. I personally don't mind mobilizing and "liberating" people from terror should a nation host a cell organization inside there borders. And for the record I won't be one of those that says "I have a higer alert than normal so I caught your guys at the fence people". I am a realist and understand no system is 100% fool-proof in catching every potential criminal or terrorist before they enter your country. Just remember an eye for an eye.


-Hawdawg
Pyschotika
06-09-2006, 02:18
Well first off -

I am the host nation.

Second off -

This is my friend. He is experienced. Please do not underestimate him.

Third off -

Panthi, he has been here before you. Just took a short leave...just in regards to the fact that yes he is experienced.

Fourth off -

Reinforcing this - Don't treat every 'new member' who expressed an idea which scares you because it is plausibly possible to fuck you up ICly in some shape or form. Meaning - No shit he has to RP a directly specific area and no 'whole of texas'.

Any thing else I should cover? The rest seemed to be repeated bullshit compiled into ever larger shit, like the shit from Joe Dirt. No, not the 'atomic bomb'.
Pyschotika
06-09-2006, 02:21
by the way, azimeth's land isn't exactly official. Being as he breached the contract when he God Modded him self being independant. Being as we agreed to 'Him being a Japanese territory'

so honestly...

Azi, go fuck your self.
N Germania
06-09-2006, 03:20
Operation: Nebel [Invasion of New Zealand]
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498653
Layarteb
06-09-2006, 03:54
Operation: Nebel [Invasion of New Zealand]
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498653

Rome's actually on that one unless this is a contestation claim.
Rusgorod
06-09-2006, 05:05
Wow, so I am being ignored? I expected at the very least a "fuck off you dirty Russian" or something like that or maybe a hi.
Hawdawg
06-09-2006, 05:54
Wow, so I am being ignored? I expected at the very least a "fuck off you dirty Russian" or something like that or maybe a hi.

Hello Pushka, I didn't get to respond too much earlier as I was reading posts while teaching night school. Sorry your stuff didn't work out. As far as getting back into Earth II I believe some land was offered up for occupation a few posts back.


Pyschotika:

I wasn't being condescending towards Nerotika or yourself I just wanted to clarify some points about borders and terrorist activities. Hell I am all for new ideas in RPing here. I also am not one to claim uber defensive walls around the country, I have a secure border that lacks barbed wire, tank traps, and land mines. If some folks have to die to liven it up around here so be it. Blood will be shed on both sides of the fences it looks like.

Unfortunately my RPing time this summer was limited but I have built some afternoon time into my work schedule to begin working in some new things myself. Particularly expanding on the death of PM Wales and the controversy that will surround the new replacement in the Defense Ministry Simon Olan Smithe. SOS is gonna be an SOB for Hawdawg foreign policy and hopefully will stir up some interesting RP's with his unparalleled "bad behavior".

-Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
06-09-2006, 13:30
I hardly think I was 'bitching' Cot. I was simply pointing out that this new fellow did a piss poor job of introducing himself and explaining things. I also agree completely with what Hawdawg has already said.
Terrorism here is a fairly good idea, but many countries, as Pantheaa said, have heavily militarised borders and extremely strict entrance procedures for legal entrance into said nation. This makes it tought, straight off the bat, for terrorists. Not only that but if a terrorist attacked, it would likely bring out a host of condemnation from 3/4 of E2 and provoke a military response that we have not yet seen in E2. Apart from that, I'd be glad to see how the terrorist thing gets started, its been mentioned before but nothing really happend.
Nerotika
06-09-2006, 17:13
I know it will be hard to get through border control, but it happens. A border is a wide stretch of land and not every inch of that land can be watched at all times. You`ll see what I mean when I get the thread out. As for my host nation, I see he already declared himself but formally I will declare him after the attacks have been carried out. I am not allied with him though as same with Al-Quida in the middle east, I have no country allies but I have a large military force. I am not here to claim land 'yet' as for right now I am here to declare a social war between my orginization and the several still unnamed countries. A thread to the first attacks will follow this message in a short while.
Hirgizstan
06-09-2006, 17:51
Its not just border control you need to worry about. Some borders are fenced and/or walled. My 'militarized' borders have three concrete walls of 20-30ft and extending 10ft below the ground with sensors. In front of the walls sits minefields of up to 5 miles, with mines that can be remote detonated if they need to be. They are also manned by the BDF and Border Patrol. Non-militarized borders (with nations with whom I have an FTA) are single walled with designated crossings. These borders are usually heavily patrolled by the Border Patrol and they have underground sensors and CCTV etc. Non-Militarized borders are by no means fool-proof, but they are effective. Militarized ones are probably less fool proof but are extremely dangerous, even for innocent people.

I have no hang-ups about the terrorism thing, it should be good, but remember that people's borders are all different, and you need to take terrain into consideration etc. In the real-world borders are quite porous, its not always the same in E2.
Rusgorod
06-09-2006, 17:54
Hello Pushka, I didn't get to respond too much earlier as I was reading posts while teaching night school. Sorry your stuff didn't work out. As far as getting back into Earth II I believe some land was offered up for occupation a few posts back.

-Hawdawg


No problem with getting land, Tyrandis has agreed to give me back most of what I gave him.

Can anyone tell me if I can restore Pushka?
Layarteb
06-09-2006, 17:54
by the way, azimeth's land isn't exactly official. Being as he breached the contract when he God Modded him self being independant. Being as we agreed to 'Him being a Japanese territory'

so honestly...

Azi, go fuck your self.

Huh?
Pyschotika
06-09-2006, 17:55
My explanation -

These are Nerotikan exiles from when Pantheaa *whe nhe was larger* took over his old land a long time ago. 400,000 survivors fled via boat, 10th of them survived as the rest died from the cold. Several of the Modern Nerotikan-Exiles are Pyschotikan Citizens, and majority of them are still pure-blooded Nerotikan as a minority of them are ethnically mixed with the rest of the population. Infact, Kobe is where a large number of them are concentrated at. I had an earthquake there around the same time these people arrived, and they struck a deal to help with the rebuilding for free citizenship as other words I would have just slaughtered them off silently. So, more or less, Kobe is China-town with-in Japan. Instead, it is Russia-town. Cyrillic symbols are inter-mixed with Kanji and so on.

Anyways, he is backed by a faction. My Nation is Politically made out of factions, much like Political parties with large and nasty guns and evil tactics. The party sponsoring these terrorists, secretly of course, are the Zaibatsu faction. Their Political name is 'Toritsugi' which translates into 'Agency'. They control the majority of Parliament, and infact their leader 'The Coordinator' is as well Prime Minister. It is like Nazi Germany, except these 'Nazis' haven't fully 'Nazified' Japan.

These new terrorists, however, are like the 'International Pawns' of Toritsugi.

So there, all is good.
Pyschotika
06-09-2006, 17:57
Its not just border control you need to worry about. Some borders are fenced and/or walled. My 'militarized' borders have three concrete walls of 20-30ft and extending 10ft below the ground with sensors. In front of the walls sits minefields of up to 5 miles, with mines that can be remote detonated if they need to be. They are also manned by the BDF and Border Patrol. Non-militarized borders (with nations with whom I have an FTA) are single walled with designated crossings. These borders are usually heavily patrolled by the Border Patrol and they have underground sensors and CCTV etc. Non-Militarized borders are by no means fool-proof, but they are effective. Militarized ones are probably less fool proof but are extremely dangerous, even for innocent people.

I have no hang-ups about the terrorism thing, it should be good, but remember that people's borders are all different, and you need to take terrain into consideration etc. In the real-world borders are quite porous, its not always the same in E2.

*cough*

Did I mention that Nerotika is part Mexican >>

borders won't be a problem :-P
Layarteb
06-09-2006, 18:04
My explanation -

These are Nerotikan exiles from when Pantheaa *whe nhe was larger* took over his old land a long time ago. 400,000 survivors fled via boat, 10th of them survived as the rest died from the cold. Several of the Modern Nerotikan-Exiles are Pyschotikan Citizens, and majority of them are still pure-blooded Nerotikan as a minority of them are ethnically mixed with the rest of the population. Infact, Kobe is where a large number of them are concentrated at. I had an earthquake there around the same time these people arrived, and they struck a deal to help with the rebuilding for free citizenship as other words I would have just slaughtered them off silently. So, more or less, Kobe is China-town with-in Japan. Instead, it is Russia-town. Cyrillic symbols are inter-mixed with Kanji and so on.

Anyways, he is backed by a faction. My Nation is Politically made out of factions, much like Political parties with large and nasty guns and evil tactics. The party sponsoring these terrorists, secretly of course, are the Zaibatsu faction. Their Political name is 'Toritsugi' which translates into 'Agency'. They control the majority of Parliament, and infact their leader 'The Coordinator' is as well Prime Minister. It is like Nazi Germany, except these 'Nazis' haven't fully 'Nazified' Japan.

These new terrorists, however, are like the 'International Pawns' of Toritsugi.

So there, all is good.

It would be legitimate under Decree 1 if all the D1 rules were adhered to otherwise he would have to claim land and be a full nation.
Rusgorod
06-09-2006, 18:15
So eh? Can anyone answer my question?
Pyschotika
06-09-2006, 18:30
No, we hate you.

Go away...

Wait you're pushka?

Ah, yea screw you :-P.

Just kidding, I'm not sure. Lay went back to work, according to my chat with him. So you may have to wait till later. Until then...

meh...sorry
Cotland
06-09-2006, 18:42
ooo Pushka's back! A great excuse to rebuild my military to its former might! ;)

As much as I hate to admit it, its going to be fun to have a grand "enemy" again. Makes for some interesting RPs. You can get Pushka restored by using the getting help thingy.

Hirgy, I may have overreacted when I wrote that. That's the problem with the internet. Things can be misinterpented. Just so you know, Nerotika was in E2 back when I was new here, but then went on D12 and was taken over.
Marimaia
06-09-2006, 19:50
No problem with getting land, Tyrandis has agreed to give me back most of what I gave him.

Can anyone tell me if I can restore Pushka?

I believe you can restore a nation by submitting a request to the moderators. Just supply the nation name, and when they restore it you use your password to get back in.

Linky: http://www.nationstates.net/page=help

Select 'Restore a Deleted Nation' in the drop-down box.

When it comes to returning to E2, I could see a lot of possibilities....
Neuvo Rica
06-09-2006, 20:10
Everyone get ready for Pushka Vs. TOA Round Two.
Rusgorod
06-09-2006, 20:27
Thx Marimaia, I sent in the request, lets see what happens now.
Pantheaa
06-09-2006, 20:46
Sweetness Pushka is back, my people bow at the altar of Pushka. Their is even a Pushkaism religion in Pantheaa.

Pushka dude, if you were Nazi Germany i would totally be your Italy
Hirgizstan
06-09-2006, 22:10
I have some of Pushka's land, and its staying in my hands.

Cot: No worries dude. I also knew Nerotika had been in E2 beforehand, and I believe I'd come across him once or twice in regular NS, so I know he ain't a noob. I just wanted to make sure the whole terrorist thing went smoothly, as 'borders' are a sensitive area in E2.
Hawdawg
06-09-2006, 22:36
Everyone get ready for Pushka Vs. TOA Round Two.

LOL!


-Hawdawg
Cotland
06-09-2006, 23:20
TOA members, please check the boards. Haw, are you on AIM?
Hawdawg
06-09-2006, 23:27
TOA members, please check the boards. Haw, are you on AIM?

Sorry Cot I am not at home and I can't get on AIM right now, I am *cough* still at work. I won't be home until 8:15-8:30 Central Standard Time.


I will go to the boards.


-Hawdawg
Rusgorod
06-09-2006, 23:35
I have some of Pushka's land, and its staying in my hands.

Geez, I been here less then 5 minutes (metaphorically speaking) and you are already trying to start a verbal conflict. Not this time my friend, whatever your problems are I don't care. Sure, my land stays in your hands, I don't care neither did I show any sign of wanting it back so wtf dude? Why you got to be hatin?

Sweetness Pushka is back, my people bow at the altar of Pushka. Their is even a Pushkaism religion in Pantheaa.

Pushka dude, if you were Nazi Germany i would totally be your Italy

Eh dude, okay...lol. I am not going to take the anti-TOA position unless I am forced into it (with attitude Hirgy and Lay have I probably will be though) anyways I am living in a much more of a stress free environment now so I can find it in myself to look at this like a game and nothing more. Plus its my way to spend time away from smoking 2 packs a day.
N Germania
07-09-2006, 01:30
Rome's actually on that one unless this is a contestation claim.

I didn't know that. In that case, pay no attention to that thread.
Pushka
07-09-2006, 01:33
Heh that was fast, oh well guess I am fully back now. All I have to do now is wait for Tyrandis to come in so he can give me my land back and yay.
Tyrandis
07-09-2006, 01:35
Figured out how to get in here now.

You have to use http://forums2.jolt.co.uk or http://forums3.jolt.co.uk.
[NS]Kreynoria
07-09-2006, 01:40
Geez, I been here less then 5 minutes (metaphorically speaking) and you are already trying to start a verbal conflict. Not this time my friend, whatever your problems are I don't care. Sure, my land stays in your hands, I don't care neither did I show any sign of wanting it back so wtf dude? Why you got to be hatin?



Eh dude, okay...lol. I am not going to take the anti-TOA position unless I am forced into it (with attitude Hirgy and Lay have I probably will be though) anyways I am living in a much more of a stress free environment now so I can find it in myself to look at this like a game and nothing more. Plus its my way to spend time away from smoking 2 packs a day.

Great to have you back. E2 just hasn't been the same without you. Coincidentally, there was a hilarious scene at recess today with a girl screaming 'Where the hell is Sasha' in Russian. I would give you some land, but all I have to offer are small island territory, since Kenya is going to be forcibly taken from me soon.
Layarteb
07-09-2006, 03:58
Geez, I been here less then 5 minutes (metaphorically speaking) and you are already trying to start a verbal conflict. Not this time my friend, whatever your problems are I don't care. Sure, my land stays in your hands, I don't care neither did I show any sign of wanting it back so wtf dude? Why you got to be hatin?



Eh dude, okay...lol. I am not going to take the anti-TOA position unless I am forced into it (with attitude Hirgy and Lay have I probably will be though) anyways I am living in a much more of a stress free environment now so I can find it in myself to look at this like a game and nothing more. Plus its my way to spend time away from smoking 2 packs a day.

For someone who wants to come back he sure isn't going to be starting off on the right foot if he's going to immediately try to point out that I will suddenly force you to take an anti-TOA opinion. Nice job there...
Pushka
07-09-2006, 04:23
I am just saying how it is buddy, unless things changed, of course.
Pyschotika
07-09-2006, 04:30
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11648421#post11648421

Operation - Misuto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11648421#post11648421)
Hirgizstan
07-09-2006, 13:00
Once again Pushka, you overeact. I was simply stating your land that I got from Tyrandis ages ago is staying with me. If you read hostility from that then its your problem. I have no time for you right now. You were a threat ages ago, now your not and I personally would be glad if you didn't take up an anti-TOA position, but as Lay pointed out, you seem to be heading to that position all by your own volition.
Things have drastically changed around here, and it would be best for you to get a feel for things first before you make any assumptions.
Pushka
07-09-2006, 16:33
All I have to say to you Hirgy is that we'll see how it goes when the right time comes.
Hirgizstan
07-09-2006, 19:12
Indeed, thats what I'm saying. I would be more than happy to accomodate you if you intend to make a fresh start, away from your previous policies, and I think that a lot of other people would aswell.
Nerotika
08-09-2006, 17:26
Let me say one more thing about the terrorism thing, and boarder controle...everyone must realize by now, im already in a country, Japan. Trust me your country getting attacked is the least of your problems when im done with this.
Pyschotika
08-09-2006, 21:11
Oh, I assure you that none of them are worried about me invading after you attack them...

I mean, I'm sure they want me to invade them, but...we'll leave this story to be told another day...

*Now, time to make up another story...*
Hirgizstan
08-09-2006, 22:02
How will that work though? You can't possibly harbor terrorists? And naturally, if someone is attacked, they'd want to avenge it?
Marimaia
08-09-2006, 22:10
How will that work though? You can't possibly harbor terrorists? And naturally, if someone is attacked, they'd want to avenge it?

I was thinking that too. If these guys attack a nation and said nation finds out that the terrorists came from Japan, what happens then? Do you refuse to take action and face being attacked yourself for harboring terrorists, or do you make a show of cleaning them up? If you make a show of cleaning them up, what will you do if they attack someone else (or the same nation again), thus proving that you either can't or won't finish them off?
Cotland
08-09-2006, 22:13
I was thinking that too. If these guys attack a nation and said nation finds out that the terrorists came from Japan, what happens then? Do you refuse to take action and face being attacked yourself for harboring terrorists, or do you make a show of cleaning them up? If you make a show of cleaning them up, what will you do if they attack someone else (or the same nation again), thus proving that you either can't or won't finish them off?
He better allow us to send in Special Forces to take care of the problem ourselves, or else....! ;) jk
Saint Lazare
08-09-2006, 23:55
These terrorists better be nice and play tea party at 4 in the afternoon.
Layarteb
09-09-2006, 14:58
I'll try to update tonight.

Nero, what's the name of the organization so that I can include it on the roster. If you could give a brief description of it as well (you know information on what it plans, goals, dogma, etc). Naturally it's a secret organization so I will include that but the information should be an OOC level but only what you would want the countries to eventually find out through investigation.
Cotland
09-09-2006, 16:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C8zMk0XRIY

Why we should fear the Russians... :cool:
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 01:48
I've added a few new classes of ships to my inventory. You'll be disappointed with what you see:

Canaria Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/canaria.htm)
El Hierro Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/elhierro.htm)
Fuerteventura Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/fuerteventura.htm)
La Gomera Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/lagomera.htm)
La Palma Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/lapalma.htm)
Lanzarote Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/lanzarote.htm)
Tenerife Class (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/tenerife.htm)

They are named after the Canary Islands.
[NS]Kreynoria
10-09-2006, 02:50
Blarg.
Nerotika
10-09-2006, 02:57
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11654910#post11654910
Heres the thread, its titled in russian, but it says Operation Social Disarray.

Brief discription of 'The Syndicate'

Orginazation formally based in the Nerotikan controled territories in Russian. They were religious extremist trying to force their religion on the 'godless' soldiers who were fighting the civil wars. They were an outside group of militants but were disarmmed when the country gained a full government that began outkasting many of the groups members. Karl Viliant, the leader, stayed in the country untill the government was distroyed and most of the russian citizens in the country were kicked out, Karl included. On the boats headed toward Japan Karl began a campaing to gain trust throughout the russian immigrants. When they landed in Japan Karl and many of the people who he talked to on the boats went to the camps because of their political ideals. The rest of the people were sent to Kobe and other cities. The people in the camps fell for Viliants speechs and soon their was a high sence of nationalism in the camps. Karl recreated 'The Syndicate' in Japan and is now commiting terroristic acts against the Japanese government, his main ideal is to spread russian idealology throughout the world starting with Japan.
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 05:26
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Cymrea: Has gone 21-day inactive :(
Geneticon: Has actually been deleted by NS so pending completion of RPs, he will be stricken from the list.





SL [Post 15953]: Thread added.
Hirgy/Cot [Post 15976]: Kam Oblast exchanged.
Pys [Post 16040]: Thread added.
Nero [Post 16054]: Thread added.






Antarctica: To all Antarctican nations and all other nations. I've been looking for a more accurate map of Antarctica and should it be found would you be upset with a land jumble in it that would give much more accurate area. I would try to keep your area much as it is now so there would be little change, if any.
Geneticon/TLS 21-Day Threads: Let me know when the take overs are done so I can remove the threads and add the land.




Last Update: Page 1,064
Current Update: Page 1,071
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 05:38
Good news. My military underhaul is really coming together. I think that I'm almost done with it in total but there are still just some minor ends here and there. It looks like all the equipment costs around like $20t to $40t so over time I've spent a whole lot on this stuff.
Hawdawg
10-09-2006, 06:11
I was going to replace my internal video card today with a pci radeon. Followed the instructions and it didn't work. Trouble now is my system is dead because I disabled the onboard video to do the install of the radeon card. I am up the perverbial shit creek. I am going for a different card that doesn't require a power source and maybe I can get it back otherwise my tower is fried. I am working from my laptop and I managed to get the computer to come back on so my wireless router is still functioning. I hate when shit doesn't work like it is supposed to.

Hawdawg
Pantheaa
10-09-2006, 07:23
After several years of exile, the monarch has returned to his thorne. At 8 am this morning, King Conrad VII was crowned King of Pantheaa, in front of millions of viewers around the world. The Confederacy that was set up as an interm government after the Panthean war is now desolved, though Vladmier Davion remains as PM till a new election is called forth

The chivalric order known as the Order of the Dragon (who date back to 1232AD) will soon reform only under modern military structure.

Return of the King (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11662885#post11662885)
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 15:26
I was going to replace my internal video card today with a pci radeon. Followed the instructions and it didn't work. Trouble now is my system is dead because I disabled the onboard video to do the install of the radeon card. I am up the perverbial shit creek. I am going for a different card that doesn't require a power source and maybe I can get it back otherwise my tower is fried. I am working from my laptop and I managed to get the computer to come back on so my wireless router is still functioning. I hate when shit doesn't work like it is supposed to.

Hawdawg

Yeah I had that problem once but I did it this way. First I installed the card and then I turned off the onboard video through the bios. It didn't work at first but after a restart it came on. I don't know how you turn it back on though if it is already off and you have no video output.

After several years of exile, the monarch has returned to his thorne. At 8 am this morning, King Conrad VII was crowned King of Pantheaa, in front of millions of viewers around the world. The Confederacy that was set up as an interm government after the Panthean war is now desolved, though Vladmier Davion remains as PM till a new election is called forth

The chivalric order known as the Order of the Dragon (who date back to 1232AD) will soon reform only under modern military structure.

Return of the King (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11662885#post11662885)

Thread added.
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 15:55
ATTN ALL NATIONS OF EARTH II

PARTICULARLY USB, SAINT LAZARE, AND MARIMAIA

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663796&postcount=269
Spizania
10-09-2006, 16:14
Im happy with a more accurate map of antartica, i would like one so i can plan for the largest operational weapon nuclear test in Earth IIs history, it will be a rather big bang.........
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 16:16
Im happy with a more accurate map of antartica, i would like one so i can plan for the largest operational weapon nuclear test in Earth IIs history, it will be a rather big bang.........

It wouldn't be wise to detonate a nuke on Antarctica. That would melt a lot of ice. The largest test was a 100 megaton one I did on some island west of Africa. It was pretty spectacular. If you're going to detonate something bigger you should do it in a much warmer climate.
Spizania
10-09-2006, 16:34
Lay, actually we share the record, i matched that test with my own 100 megatonne detonation a few days afterwards. That was detonated over open ocean, the problem with this weapon is the fact that its going to produce so much fallout i have to detonate it in a totally uninhabited area, an airburst over antartica is the best i can do (i dont want to make the ocean glow in the dark, it will melt a tonne of ice sure, especially as the ice in the area is being covered with dark coloured gravel just before the test. However what will mostly happen is i get a giant liquid "crater" lake sitting on the top of the icecap, which i will then pump out and refreeze on another part of the icecap, leaving me free to do what i am secretly planning to do to that area
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 16:36
Lay, actually we share the record, i matched that test with my own 100 megatonne detonation a few days afterwards. That was detonated over open ocean, the problem with this weapon is the fact that its going to produce so much fallout i have to detonate it in a totally uninhabited area, an airburst over antartica is the best i can do (i dont want to make the ocean glow in the dark, it will melt a tonne of ice sure, especially as the ice in the area is being covered with dark coloured gravel just before the test. However what will mostly happen is i get a giant liquid "crater" lake sitting on the top of the icecap, which i will then pump out and refreeze on another part of the icecap, leaving me free to do what i am secretly planning to do to that area

Yeah that's going to get opposition.
Hawdawg
10-09-2006, 16:55
Lay, actually we share the record, i matched that test with my own 100 megatonne detonation a few days afterwards. That was detonated over open ocean, the problem with this weapon is the fact that its going to produce so much fallout i have to detonate it in a totally uninhabited area, an airburst over antartica is the best i can do (i dont want to make the ocean glow in the dark, it will melt a tonne of ice sure, especially as the ice in the area is being covered with dark coloured gravel just before the test. However what will mostly happen is i get a giant liquid "crater" lake sitting on the top of the icecap, which i will then pump out and refreeze on another part of the icecap, leaving me free to do what i am secretly planning to do to that area


Yeah this is very close to the ill-fated melt the ice thing we dealt with in the North. A nuclear test that would melt that much ice would definitely cause the worldwide sea levels to rise several feet and would do irrepairable damage to the ecosystems of the world. I am not for this and will join with others to oppose it.

-Hawdawg
Spizania
10-09-2006, 17:09
hawdawg, the amount of ice that gets melted will probably only approach the volume of Loch Neigh (sp) in Northern Ireland and almost all of that will be captured by gravity, the affect on sea-level will be minimal, and i have a more permeanant solution in mind if that doesnt work
Cotland
10-09-2006, 17:21
Seeing as Cymrea is 21-days, I'm going for Christmas and Norfolk Islands, with the condition that he'll get them back if he returns. Thread to come shortly.

Oh, and Spiz, we had this discussion when Pushka tried to melt the polar ice caps. It's not a wise idea, and the Realm will oppose it.
Hirgizstan
10-09-2006, 17:24
Spizania, I'll be blunt- Don't even try it.
Spizania
10-09-2006, 17:33
hirgy, its not going to significantly change the amount of water in the sea, the only thing that is going to happen is one bomber will fly over my own territory and drop the most powerful weapon in my arsenal, there will be no warning.
Im actually going to try and mine the areas underneath the ice sheet, it will be easier to get down to rock level this way, if you can suggest an alternate testing location, id be happy to change my plans
Cotland
10-09-2006, 17:36
hirgy, its not going to significantly change the amount of water in the sea, the only thing that is going to happen is one bomber will fly over my own territory and drop the most powerful weapon in my arsenal, there will be no warning.
Im actually going to try and mine the areas underneath the ice sheet, it will be easier to get down to rock level this way, if you can suggest an alternate testing location, id be happy to change my plans

Spiz, if you're so intended to do it, I'll let you use Bouvet Island, which is far enough away from everything to keep everyone happy. I don't really have anything on it other than criminals who are assumed to be dead by the population, so I won't really be sorry if they die. Deal?

On a somewhat different note: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499232

"The Return" - taking Christmas Island and Norfolk Island...
Spizania
10-09-2006, 17:38
Spiz, if you're so intended to do it, I'll let you use Bouvet Island, which is far enough away from everything to keep everyone happy. I don't really have anything on it other than criminals who are assumed to be dead by the population, so I won't really be sorry if they die. Deal?
Deal.... Id evac any personel you have, the island is likely to be completely take down to sea level or perhaps even below.
Cotland
10-09-2006, 17:44
Deal.... Id evac any personel you have, the island is likely to be completely take down to sea level or perhaps even below.

Start a thread, and I'll evac the staff of the prison. There's about a thousand prisoners that will die...
Spizania
10-09-2006, 17:54
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499237 <<<< Mwahahahaha *evil cackle*
Cotland
10-09-2006, 18:04
OK, so that bomb will just blow a lot of rock away from the island. No major ice melting or anything. That cool with everyone? Just want confirmation before I post...
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 18:41
The Empire cannot support any active, nuclear test in the south pole that would have potential for creating a global catastrophe. Nuclear tests produce unchartable amounts of heat, instantly melting and vaporizing the ice sheets at our south pole. This influx of water will, inevitably, cause an increase in the sea level and destruction of coastline. As the Empire had opposed the Pushkan military endeavor to clear the Arctic ice sheets so too shall we oppose this endeavor. Any nuclear test that jeopardizes the people of the Empire will be opposed greatly. The Empire reserves the right to put a stop to said tests with or without permission from the government of said country and furthermore, should the Spizanian military continue upon this dangerous path they will meet worldwide resistance. Any detremental effects observed against the coastlines of the Empire will be considered an act of war by the Spizanian government. We urge them to test this device in a much less risky area.


The Emperor

..Official statement..
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 18:47
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499237 <<<< Mwahahahaha *evil cackle*

Spiz, if you're so intended to do it, I'll let you use Bouvet Island, which is far enough away from everything to keep everyone happy. I don't really have anything on it other than criminals who are assumed to be dead by the population, so I won't really be sorry if they die. Deal?

On a somewhat different note: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499232

"The Return" - taking Christmas Island and Norfolk Island...

Threads added.
Cotland
10-09-2006, 22:25
Thanks Lay.

Spiz, I'm getting a lot of pressure from my allies and others not to go through with the nuke test. I fear that I must recant the offer to use Bouvet, and rather urge you not to go through with the test. Sorry man, but the allies' opinion are pretty important...
Spizania
10-09-2006, 22:33
I just detonate the weapon over international waters, like the last test i did
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 22:38
I just detonate the weapon over international waters, like the last test i did

You own Baker Island. Think of something not that far from there or is this thing going to put out more fallout than Castle Bravo?
Cotland
10-09-2006, 22:54
I just detonate the weapon over international waters, like the last test i did

OK, as long as the fallout doesn't hit me (important areas) or my allies, I'm cool with it. Thanks for understanding.
Spizania
10-09-2006, 23:17
You own Baker Island. Think of something not that far from there or is this thing going to put out more fallout than Castle Bravo?

This thing will hugely more fallout than castle bravo, although probably less per unit yield
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 23:18
This thing will hugely more fallout than castle bravo, although probably less per unit yield

Great so when the wind shifts towards Hawaii or the Galapagos or somewhere in my territory...

FYI Big Bombshell dropped in Ride the Lightning!
Hawdawg
10-09-2006, 23:30
Great crisis avoided.

-Hawdawg


PS-

Cotland waiting for the King's response to Wells so I can finish up there conversation and get on with the funeral.

Thanks.
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 23:31
The Empire revises its previous statement:

Given the possibility of a Spizanian nuclear test which may cause but not be limited to, incalculable amounts of fallout, polar ice melting, or ecological catastrophy, the Empire officially and publically denounces any future test of this nature. Any negative effects observed against land, water, or air of the Empire as well as against the people of the Empire by any test will be considered a declaration of war against the Empire. The Empire reserves the right to stop any such tests as long as it is a threat to the Empire.

The Emperor
Layarteb
10-09-2006, 23:50
Haw, the Emperor is at the funeral thing, I just didn't go through the song & dance because it'd be the same as Cot & Hirgy, thought it might get a lil like "same thing x 3" you know? Lemme know if that's a problem.
Saint Lazare
10-09-2006, 23:52
ATTN ALL NATIONS OF EARTH II

PARTICULARLY USB, SAINT LAZARE, AND MARIMAIA

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663796&postcount=269

Yea, I've checked it, and I've sent you a TG... I'll need a little more time, so maybe people are cooperative and the Empire is a little more benevolent to grant a temporary extension of the good-faith measure...

I hereby oocly apologize to all citizens of Grenada, as oocly, I conspire their own doom. oocly, I also hope Layarteb appreciates this good-will gift to his Empire.

FYI, if you need a diversion of this good-will package, just let me know...
Hawdawg
11-09-2006, 02:13
Haw, the Emperor is at the funeral thing, I just didn't go through the song & dance because it'd be the same as Cot & Hirgy, thought it might get a lil like "same thing x 3" you know? Lemme know if that's a problem.


Yeah just post a that'll be all post and he can wisk away to the hotel then I will start on putting the funeral thread together. I am going to loose my Wireless internet connection tomorrow when I take my tower to the shop, so I may be AWOL for a day or two while my computer guru gets my VID Card working. Worst case scenario I will be online Tuesday night or Wednesday night.

--------------------------------------------------------

Official Communique to Spizana
It concerns the Republic that your government is wishing to have an open air nuclear detonation. The irreversible damage to the environment is unacceptable in our opinion. If a open air test is conducted we will be forced to take drastic action to severely limit the current and/or future nuclear capabilities of your government. We reserve the right to use any means necessary to protect the people of our Republic.

Signed,

Prime Minister Gordon Wells
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Layarteb
11-09-2006, 03:19
http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Temp/Mark23Shooting-01.avi

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Temp/Mark23Shooting-02.avi

what a "silencer" really sounds like if you didnt know

Please save it to your HDD first because it is quicker that way :-)
Hirgizstan
11-09-2006, 12:31
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION TO SPIZANIA

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS



Like our allies and various other nations around the globe, we are deeply concerned with your actions as of late, concerning your plans to detonate a large nuclear weapon in international waters.

Due to the ever changing direction of winds and the inherent changes in nature we can not allow this test to go ahead as we believe it presents a clear and present danger to the Commonwealth and our allies. Not only this, but by detonating it at sea you could cause untold disaster to the surrounding eco-system which would take hundreds of years to repair.

We cannot let such a test go ahead, and if you plan to make it go ahead, we will not hesitate to stop it.


COH
Nerotika
11-09-2006, 17:15
In my thread, to end confusion without posting OOC in it. The plane that was called in hi-jacked was not actually, the plan was to give reason to the carrier to shoot the plane down. The call that was sent in was sent in by the terrorist that took over the main tower, If pyschotika had actually responded there would have been no way of him knowing my men sent in that message due to the fact that the building was being evacuated and there was only one plane leaving the port. The plane should have been shot down in mid-air with camera's watching the entire scene, my group would not claim any responsability for the plane and theirfore the military would be under attack for firing down civilians. Basically im trying to cause social disorder, but Pyschotika is not responding.
Spizania
11-09-2006, 17:34
You guys, you cant possibly know that there is going to be a nuclear weapon test
Where the hell else am i meant to test the damn bomb?
Hirgizstan
11-09-2006, 17:52
Nerotika, I'll amend my post in your thread whenever the situation with the plane and the carrier is responded to by Pyschotika. Thanks for explaining it.

Spizania, they're called Satellites and Spies. The TOA have a lot of both, we'd know. Plus you got Cotland to (at first) lend you one of his islands and evac his citizens...there's only a few reasons why he'd do that for you.
Spizania
11-09-2006, 18:21
Hirgy, perhaps some RPing of a spy in one of my most secure installations would be in order before you make that claim, and sats cant see what ive loaded into the bay of that bomber.
And perhaps i would only want to perform a conventional live fire exercise of collosal proportions using the island as a target
Hirgizstan
11-09-2006, 22:06
So what do you think will happen when you detonate the nuke? You think wind won't carry the radiation to some of my territory, thereby declaring war on me? Or might your radiation carry to somewhere else, perhaps closer, killing and badly affecting the population of numerous countries and forcing them to commit to sanctions or declare war and have that dangerous influence (i.e. you) removed from the earth? Just THINK about what you plan to do.
Spizania
11-09-2006, 22:28
You wont let me test it on my own soil, so i have nowhere left to use it, a deep underground test probably wont be sufficientto allow me to collect the required data
Layarteb
12-09-2006, 00:32
Sorry Spiz, when I put out the first statement you never said anything so I kept going at it.
Pyschotika
12-09-2006, 02:41
Sorry I've been inactive again.

I was trying to but I couldn't. No internet for my comp at my dad's up till now, and this stupid card is dumb.


I'm keeping this post as 'global' as possible so I can post it around other forums as well.

Today at around 8 AM I got into a wreck. I was crossing into a one-way, totally un-aware of the stop sign, and actually was lost for once. A driver of a red 1989-1995 *between those years* Beretta slammed into my driver side going at about 37 miles per hour. Spun out and rested, out of the way of traffic. My car was still running, but I hit the breaks and just sat there after it all happened. Listening to Bob and Tom in the morning, trying to laugh. I can't remember the initial impact, just the before and the after. I believe they all assumed me dead, the witnesses and the driver, because they were all at his car checking him out. Or the fact they must have thought I was a jackass, thinking I was purpously running a stop sign. The dirver, 19 years old, walks over to the passenger side obviously because if I were dead then you don't want to be on the grosteque side. He said 'Are you arlight man' of course I just said yea and asked the same. I sort of just sat there, and decided to climb out. I walked around, dazed and in disbeliefe...well more or less confused. I think I may have bumped my head, but only slightly. I walked over and asked if he was fine again, just scared. I called 911, infact I had no clue what I was doing but I guess I was right.

Dispatch - "911, what seems to be the emergency?"

Me - "Uhh...yea...I'd like to report an accident."

Dispatch - "Okay, where at sir?"

Me - "Over at South 19th and L."

D - "Okay sir. Were you involved?"

M - "Yes."

D - "Were there any passengers?"

M - "No."

D - "Is everyone alright then?"

M - "Yes."

D - "Alright, we'll have an officer there asap."

And the thank you good byes. Officer arrives, must have not known I was involved because he saw my car and his face turned grim. Then he walked over, I guess after asking a witness, if I was involved. Went through the same questions, his face still pale to see me standing and talking. I had called my mother and father prior, my mom was there sometime after I filled out my information. She burst into tears after seeing my car, because she didn't believe that it was my car. She saw the damage, and couldn't believe I wasn't even knocked out. Infact, a lot of them thought that.

After the whole ordeal, I went to the hospital with my mom. Everything checked out. Three Cat Scans and Four X-Rays, everything was a-okay. My entire left side is bruised and such, and I think I may have sprained my left elbow.

But according to everyone who saw my car, I should have been dead.
Hawdawg
12-09-2006, 03:51
Take care of yourself P. This stuff is secondary next to your health.


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
12-09-2006, 04:19
I can say that I've had close calls before and [knock on wood] may they be the worst I've had. Pys you're alive and kicking and that's definitely something you can toss up to goodness.
Layarteb
12-09-2006, 04:38
Some E2 FYI to those who don't know.

Layarteb City = New York City = NYC with the WTC and some other buildings but don't think that 9/11 happened to the EOL in E2 because it didn't. Osama bin Douche Bag doesn't exist here.
Pantheaa
12-09-2006, 05:41
Spiz, ever thought of testing that missle by shooting into space?

Aren't you also building the freedom tower in NY as well Lay?

Dam Psy, I only been in like one serious crash and wasn't hurt. It was my fault though and i was sued for it, but the person who sued me decided to take it to court instead settle out of court. She didn't have proof that my crash cause the so called injuries that she suffers, no written statements by any docs...so it was throw out!!! Lucky me. Plus they were able to fix my car cause the axles and skeleton frame wasn't damaged.

Return of the King has been updated
Hirgizstan
12-09-2006, 14:09
Good to hear your ok Pys, thats the main thing.

Spiz, there are many reasons why you shouldn't test a nuke in international waters...pick one.
Pyschotika
12-09-2006, 15:05
Heh, thanks guys.

But yea, damage to my car that I know of is this -

Skeleton frame on the driver side is totally pushed in and bent.

Rear axel is tilted, obvious a fail safe to help the car glide to the other direction to try and minimalize injury.

But yea, the other guy's car can't even run. Radiator was demolished for sure, and I think the engine block as well.

It was really fucked up...I hope to get some pictures here soon.
Spizania
12-09-2006, 17:31
Panth, its a gravity bomb, i cant get it into space
Hirgy, i got nowhere else to test it that is deserted over a big enough area
Hirgizstan
12-09-2006, 17:52
Well your not going to test it in Intl. Waters where radiation could reach my territory, its as simple as that.
Spizania
12-09-2006, 17:59
Ooh, how are you going to stop me testing it? I could test it anywhere in the world and fallout could reach your territory eventually, its inevitable
Cotland
12-09-2006, 17:59
Layarteb, I don't own the Chechen Republic anymore. Doomingsland does.
Cotland
12-09-2006, 18:01
Ooh, how are you going to stop me testing it? I could test it anywhere in the world and fallout could reach your territory eventually, its inevitable

What I think he's saying is that you can do it, but then you'll have to face the consequences which may or may not include WMDs of his own.
Dekapolis
12-09-2006, 18:27
So anything belonging to Elephantum or the Lighting Star is, eh, grabbable, right? Although, I cant grab much because my nation is new? Think I got it all down, I just wanted to clarify before saying or claiming something stupid
Marimaia
12-09-2006, 18:52
So anything belonging to Elephantum or the Lighting Star is, eh, grabbable, right? Although, I cant grab much because my nation is new? Think I got it all down, I just wanted to clarify before saying or claiming something stupid

Well, parts of TLS are being grabbed by existing players (I think most of it in fact), but all of Elephantum is available for grabbing. Check your population against the population matrix on page 1 and choose territory up to your limit. If you check the Land and Status Spreadsheet (link at bottom of the first post), click on 'Land Area' and you'll be able to see how big each bit of territory is by scrolling down to Elephantum's entry.
Spizania
12-09-2006, 19:09
Who controls Ras Musandam, its part of Oman but i want to be sure
Cotland
12-09-2006, 19:16
Who controls Ras Musandam, its part of Oman but i want to be sure
Elephantum
Layarteb
12-09-2006, 22:32
Spiz, ever thought of testing that missle by shooting into space?

Aren't you also building the freedom tower in NY as well Lay?

Dam Psy, I only been in like one serious crash and wasn't hurt. It was my fault though and i was sued for it, but the person who sued me decided to take it to court instead settle out of court. She didn't have proof that my crash cause the so called injuries that she suffers, no written statements by any docs...so it was throw out!!! Lucky me. Plus they were able to fix my car cause the axles and skeleton frame wasn't damaged.

Return of the King has been updated

Yes the Freedom Tower complex does exist in the EOL but it's in Caracas, Venezuela and it is something else for a different purpose. It's like a media hub, business hub, etc. Manchurian Global occupies 20 of the floors there.
Pushka
13-09-2006, 02:00
Alright Tyr TGed me saying that I can have all of his land in Russia, i asked him to TG Lay about this. Tyr can't get on to NS for some reason, it doesn't let him login.
Layarteb
13-09-2006, 02:27
Alright Tyr TGed me saying that I can have all of his land in Russia, i asked him to TG Lay about this. Tyr can't get on to NS for some reason, it doesn't let him login.

Unless he either posts it here under his name or TGs me under his name I cannot honor it but I don't see a need to rush, at the moment. Unless you're that dire to get in. If so, tell him to e-mail me or talk to me via AIM.
Pushka
13-09-2006, 03:38
He'll TG you soon, he can't get on the forums but can get on NS.
Spizania
13-09-2006, 16:54
Elephantum

Then i should not be listed as having all of Oman, because i dont, i should be listed as containing mainland oman

EDIT, nvm, Lays map shows me as controlling it, excellent, time to do my part to avert sea level rise.....
Nerotika
13-09-2006, 17:33
Because your border policies and immigration policies are out in the open, or at least I cant find them can I receive that information. The unclassified stuff at least. All im looking for is border laws from the following nations: Cotland, The Fourth Reich (North Germania, Hawdawg, Hirgizstan, Layarteb, Nepal (The Lightning Star), Romania (RomeW), Tyrandis and The United Eastasian Republic (Marimaia). Just so this is not taken as a threat, not all of these people are my targets and some of my targets I did not list. It just seems that these people have the most land to protect so by knowing their laws I can at least compare them to the countries with lower amounts of land to protect.
Hirgizstan
13-09-2006, 18:12
I had a more clear list of entrance requirements etc on NS: Wiki, but that seems to have crashed. Check the link out in my signature later on, might be working then. For now I'll post some basic stuff.

Only TOA citizens are allowed to enter the COH without a Visa, but they must be security screened and carry a valid, electronically readable, passport. They are allowed to stay for up to two months before leaving or needing to apply for a Temporary Stay Visa.

Citizens of nations I have FTA's or PTA's with (list below) are allowed to enter after being approved for Temporary Stay Visa's which allow for, without extension, a three month stay. Visa's must be applied for at least 1 month before the person is due to enter the COH. Other sorts of Visa's and Green Cards take much longer to authorise and may require an interview. Green Cards applications are only accepted if the application is signed by an employer, guaranteeing the person wanting the Green Card, employment.

Citizens outside of these countries (i.e. nations I do not recognize) are not allowed to enter as these countries are not officially or diplomatically recognised.

Citizens from TOA or FTA/PTA nations with criminal records are not allowed to enter. Special cases may be made if the record is minor but usually not.

COH Airport Security is extremely tight and well organised due to the high amount of technological equipment that can be used. The usual array of X-Ray Machines, hand-held scanners and NBC Identification Systems are used. As well as that, before going into any departure lounge, passengers must walk through the X-WAY, an eight metre long walkway that projects a moving x-ray of the person walking through.

Ports are monitored just as heavily as airports, all citizens reporting their arrival and departure and being searched- the same equipment and proceudres used at airports are used at ports. Scans and sweeps of boats is mandatory for all privately and publicly owned craft.

On the Freeways and other roads approaching large towns, cities, conurbations etc, certain sensors are installed on the road that will pick up Nuclear, Biological or Chemical fingerprints.

People who are caught in the COH as 'Illegals' are not considered human, unless they can provide paperwork or prove their identity/citizenship of another nation. If they cannot, they become 'Non-Persons' and will cease to exist.

I already told you about the set up at my borders.

List of Nations with which the COH has a Free Trade Agreement (FTA):

Bjornoya
Cotland
Hawdawg
Layarteb
North Germania
Nuevo Rica
Ottoman Khaif
Pyschotika
Rome
Soviet Bloc
USB

List of Nations with which the COH has a Provisional Trade Agreement (PTA):

Cymrea.

Nerotika, if you need any more info or specifics, just ask.
Cotland
13-09-2006, 21:11
Because your border policies and immigration policies are out in the open, or at least I cant find them can I receive that information. The unclassified stuff at least. All im looking for is border laws from the following nations: Cotland, The Fourth Reich (North Germania, Hawdawg, Hirgizstan, Layarteb, Nepal (The Lightning Star), Romania (RomeW), Tyrandis and The United Eastasian Republic (Marimaia). Just so this is not taken as a threat, not all of these people are my targets and some of my targets I did not list. It just seems that these people have the most land to protect so by knowing their laws I can at least compare them to the countries with lower amounts of land to protect.
Well, its depends on what territory of the Realm you want to enter, but any foreigner must have a valid visa and electronically readable passports to enter the Realm, save for members of TOA nations which must only have the electronically readable passports. Visa applications must be recieved at minimum one month prior to the arrival, and they are checked through various databases. Should the person applying have a criminal record, the visa will be automatically denied. Nations with which the Realm trades are more likely to be granted visas than nations with which the Realm has little or no contact with. Citizens from nations which the Realm doesn't recognize are not allowed within the Realm. As per the Protection of the Realm Act, the Realm reserves the right to deport citizens of any nationality if it sees fit for the protection of the security of the Realm.

On the airport or border checkpoint, all luggage is screened through x-ray machines and passports are checked by security officials. Dogs may be used as well, to catch any drug smugglers or explosives. Anyone not checking out is singled out, detained and interrogated before being deported. It should be noted that the Realm has maintained a policy of executing anyone attempting to enter the Realm illegally three times or more for quite some time now.

Along the Cottish-Hawdawgian border, there are no special restrictions apart from the customs checkpoints at each road or railway crossing the border due to the close alliance and friendship between the Realm and the Holy Republic, but along all other borders, the Realm maintains the following kind of border perimeter (where applicable): A double four-meter chain-link fence with barbed wire on top and a two-meter concrete fundation beneath the ground, with ten meters between the two fences. On either side of the fence, there is a three meter wide and two meter deep concrete ditch to prevent vehicles from crossing (apart from at checkpoints where there is a small "bridge" for vehicles to pass over), and motion sensors are located on either sides of the fences to pick up anyone trying to pass. In the "no mans land" between the two fences, there is a minefield consisting of various anti-personnel mines (Bouncing Bettys, Claymores, etc). For every ten kilometers, there is a checkpoint consisting of border guards which are heavily armed and covers a ten kilometer sector. They patrol the sector at random intervals, using but not limited to, Desert Patrol Buggys, quad-bikes, helicopters, CTLAVs, their feet, horses, camels, et cetera. They can be at any point of their sector within ten minutes, max.

Ports are monitored as well, and all containers are screened through a special machine as they are to leave the port area. I'll elaborate more about this if you requests it. Containers may also be subject to random physical inspections. All ships entering Cottish territorial waters must check in with the coastal surveilance (military) before entering the waters as per the Protection of the Realm Act of 2005, and any ships may be subjected to inspections by the Royal Cottish Navy at any time while in Cottish territorial waters. However, the Realm does its best to keep from interfering with commerce and trade.

If I missed anything, or if you want to know more about anything, don't hessitate to ask.
Layarteb
14-09-2006, 00:42
Because your border policies and immigration policies are out in the open, or at least I cant find them can I receive that information. The unclassified stuff at least. All im looking for is border laws from the following nations: Cotland, The Fourth Reich (North Germania, Hawdawg, Hirgizstan, Layarteb, Nepal (The Lightning Star), Romania (RomeW), Tyrandis and The United Eastasian Republic (Marimaia). Just so this is not taken as a threat, not all of these people are my targets and some of my targets I did not list. It just seems that these people have the most land to protect so by knowing their laws I can at least compare them to the countries with lower amounts of land to protect.

Border control is tight in the Empire for all forms (land, sea, and air). In order to travel to the Empire you must apply for a visa in advance and go through a short background check and interview. If you fail you won't be allowed the visa. For places with FTAs it is a little less strict but it is still rigid. We have quotas on immigration. TOA nations have the highest numbers followed by the FTA countries followed just by "embassy" countries followed by just normal countries. Customs is strict when it comes to air, land, and sea and we're always on the prowl looking for drugs. The highest quota numbers for the TOA are in the 100 - 250 thousand a year range. FTAs are around 50 - 100k. Embassy nations are between 10 - 50 thousand. Other nations are under 10k. Then there are certain nations we don't let anyone in.

TOA Nations
Cotland
Hirgizstan
North Germania
Hawdawg
Soviet Bloc

FTA Nations
Bjornoya
Cotland
Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
Marimaia
North Germania
Soviet Bloc
Ottoman Khaif
United States of Brink

Embassy Nations
Bjornoya
Cotland
Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
Kreynoria
Marimaia
North Germania
Soviet Bloc
Ottoman Khaif
United States of Brink
RomeW
The Lightning Star
Saint Lazare

Other Nations
Dweladelfia prime
Doomingsland
Neuvo Rica
Squornshelous
Pyschotika

No Relations
Azimeth
Brydog
Geneticon
Pantheaa
Safehaven2
Sparta Dominion
Spizania
Terronian
Tyrandis
Varsola
Bjornoya
14-09-2006, 08:57
The End (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11679565#post11679565)

An introductory post for the RP I've been planning with Krey, Hirg, and Brink 9eventually DP will get involved, so I've heard)

The post is purposefully obscure, I hope it is difficult to read. My apologies for my absence, thigns have finally stabilized. Over the weekend I plan to calculate the gains and loss for the BISE over the summer so be prepared for huge gains or losses over the long time period.

Oh yeah, land exchange, this is all one big transffer so no parts, it all has to be approved entirelly by everyone involved (sorry):

I get:
Kenya

USB gets:
Reunion Is.

I give to Krey:
Cocos Islands
Chagos Archipelago

I give to Dweladelfia:
Kangaroo Island
Hirgizstan
14-09-2006, 14:18
Thats ok with me.
Pyschotika
14-09-2006, 15:55
I thought we established an FTA around the time when the global map was launched.

Meh.
Marimaia
14-09-2006, 15:57
Because your border policies and immigration policies are out in the open, or at least I cant find them can I receive that information. The unclassified stuff at least. All im looking for is border laws from the following nations: Cotland, The Fourth Reich (North Germania, Hawdawg, Hirgizstan, Layarteb, Nepal (The Lightning Star), Romania (RomeW), Tyrandis and The United Eastasian Republic (Marimaia). Just so this is not taken as a threat, not all of these people are my targets and some of my targets I did not list. It just seems that these people have the most land to protect so by knowing their laws I can at least compare them to the countries with lower amounts of land to protect.

The United Eastasian Republic is the Big Evil Communist Superpower(tm), and accordingly has no problem hassling people at ports/airports if they look at the security the wrong way. Pacifinesian and Japanese citizens have an easier time getting visas than most due to the alliances between them and the UER (which of course means that everyone has to have a visa); in addition they are not afraid of racial profiling.

Border security is a joint jurisdiction of the security services and the military, with all unauthorised border crossings resulting in interrogation at best (summary shooting at worst). This state of affairs has been slightly bolstered due to the abortive Grenada affair, as the UER are a little concerned that the Layartebians might be seeking to get back at them.

The weak points would be the designated tourist spots, such as Mount Paektu, Ha Long Bay, Siargao Island and Hainan, but keep in mind that the tourists aren't allowed out of said designated areas unless under escort. Security within the tourist areas is very light because tourists won't come back if they feel security breathing down their necks, so they would be your best bet if you plan to attack the UER.

Of course, attacking the UER will result in the entire nation baying for Nerotikan-Russian blood, and woe betide anyone or anything that gets in the way of the state-sponsored backlash or the hunt for Viliant & co.
Nerotika
14-09-2006, 17:43
Thanks for the info everyone. There's a few more people I want to get that from but so far im building a my plans. Pysch you need to post in the RP, my attacks will continue untill you feel the need to pressure my people. As for everyone else, look forward to my presance, we will be around. Their are several countries I am setting bases in but first visa's need to be approved along with citizen requests. If you are looking for a loophole to exclude my citizens you might be cutting out citizens who had nothing to do with the attacks. Because of the recent Japanese/Russian hate many of the Russian immigrants are leaving Japan and trying to get visa's or citizenships in other countries such as Layarteb, Cotland, The Fourth Reich and Hirgizstan where protection from 'The Syndicate' and the Japanese racial hate seems almost promised.

Just a little bit of information, many Russian immigrants will begin to try and jump borders, also a spike of applications for Visa's or citizenships have started up. Disapproving them all might cause a major immigration problem in your country. I`ll keep updates on what my people are doing along with recent Syndicate attacks, like the one that hit central Tokyo in Mainland Japan killing several civilians who were racialy attacking the bomber before the explosion.

Question...Does Earth II have a central news network? cause I would be glad to set one up if I get some support and a few people to help.
Neuvo Rica
14-09-2006, 17:45
Lay posted a newsthread a while back
Hirgizstan
14-09-2006, 18:05
Were these 'Russians' fleeing Japan once Pantheaan citizens? If so they have no chance of getting into the COH via Visa applications.
Layarteb
14-09-2006, 22:59
The United Eastasian Republic is the Big Evil Communist Superpower(tm), and accordingly has no problem hassling people at ports/airports if they look at the security the wrong way. Pacifinesian and Japanese citizens have an easier time getting visas than most due to the alliances between them and the UER (which of course means that everyone has to have a visa); in addition they are not afraid of racial profiling.

Border security is a joint jurisdiction of the security services and the military, with all unauthorised border crossings resulting in interrogation at best (summary shooting at worst). This state of affairs has been slightly bolstered due to the abortive Grenada affair, as the UER are a little concerned that the Layartebians might be seeking to get back at them.

The weak points would be the designated tourist spots, such as Mount Paektu, Ha Long Bay, Siargao Island and Hainan, but keep in mind that the tourists aren't allowed out of said designated areas unless under escort. Security within the tourist areas is very light because tourists won't come back if they feel security breathing down their necks, so they would be your best bet if you plan to attack the UER.

Of course, attacking the UER will result in the entire nation baying for Nerotikan-Russian blood, and woe betide anyone or anything that gets in the way of the state-sponsored backlash or the hunt for Viliant & co.

Actually that raises a good point. The Emperor will actually be dropping the quota for UER citizens to 18,000 a year and the background checks will be more strict, given Grenadan affairs. It'll be in RTL soon.
Layarteb
15-09-2006, 00:14
http://whocg.blogspot.com/

This is coming back.
[NS]Kreynoria
15-09-2006, 00:23
I will also be gaining insider information on Visara, and thus allowing me to blackmail Visara into cheap resource deals.
Layarteb
15-09-2006, 00:58
Kreynoria;11682543']I will also be gaining insider information on Visara, and thus allowing me to blackmail Visara into cheap resource deals.

Sounds very capitalistic :).
Layarteb
15-09-2006, 01:41
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11682871&postcount=272

Something for the world to see (or rather listen to).
Pushka
15-09-2006, 02:19
Wow, Lay you're making Mari your enemy just before my come back? Bold move my friend, I see you're tired of E2 being so pink and fluffy and peaceful. Yay for global bipolarity. Lay did Tyr TG you yet? I am getting more and more eager to get back in.
Layarteb
15-09-2006, 02:40
Wow, Lay you're making Mari your enemy just before my come back? Bold move my friend, I see you're tired of E2 being so pink and fluffy and peaceful. Yay for global bipolarity. Lay did Tyr TG you yet? I am getting more and more eager to get back in.

Actually what I am doing has nothing to do with any of that. Sorry but you've got no clue about that one. No he hasn't.
Pantheaa
15-09-2006, 04:40
Were these 'Russians' fleeing Japan once Pantheaan citizens? If so they have no chance of getting into the COH via Visa applications.


They could be the Cots that once lived in Russian before i took over. I acquired the Russian land from Cotland, and that's started the Technicolor Russian nations. After a few months i and a few other Russian nations were the only ones that remained in Russia. That was the "golden age" of the Panthean empire before the communist took over and ruined everything. Now my nation has a story similar to the Eastern Roman Empire.

But I digress, I ethnically cleanse the Russian lands of all Cottish Russian leaders. (a government secret that has only been revealed now).This was so the Slovakian refugees who fled Europe when NG took over Slovakia could hold power over the Russian majority. So it is possible that some Cottish Russians escaped, I don’t know if they would have passports to Hirg or any other nation for that matter. Passports expire over time and that WAS A LONG TIME AGO! Try forging the passport but Hirg probably has security checks for that as well

The current king of Panthean is a Slovakian btw but the parliament is largely made up of Russians. It is sort of like a truce between Slovaks and Russians that the Slovakian king was returned to power
Hirgizstan
15-09-2006, 11:57
Lay that RTL speech was amazing, great stuff.
Nerotika
15-09-2006, 17:12
The Russians were from when I controled territory in Russia at the biggining of Earth II. I owned a two regions in the center of the country that, when I went under D12 somone took over. Pyschotika made a post so I could preserve the Nerotikan-Russian people so if I were to ever return I could either find a land to take or do what I am doing.

Also I have the full story on this but I am expecting reasponces in my thread from the internation community, I have only seen a few people respond though. My final large attack will happen soon and I expect little resistance until it happens, after that im guess alot of people will be quite pissed off. Hopfully I can by-pass some immigration border laws so I can get my radicals in the countries. Also a second thread will soon (Maybe next week) as I begin the second front.
Pyschotika
15-09-2006, 18:41
Basically -

I think of them as Russian indigenous peoples with no homeland so I sacked them and tossed them into a work force...well not really.

BTW, Nerotika were allowed into the Military...

what sort of tics me off is that he never talked to me about Nerotikans in Japan............
Hirgizstan
15-09-2006, 21:15
I think, at the very least, Nerotika should sign up to the off-site forums. Perhaps a discussion thread about the terrorist stuff would be better situated there?
Layarteb
15-09-2006, 23:00
I spoke with a man from the 5th Special Forces Group today at work. He just finished up 22 years but anyhow, he gave me a few tidbits of information.


Combat jumps are done at 1,100 feet and only at night
Fast ropes aren't really done anymore (because of Somalia)
In combat helicopters rarely land, usually you get snapped onto ropes hanging down and fly out that way, weapon ALWAYS pointed down
They do this circle thing with that where they hold each others' ropes and someone points down with their weapons
Pushka
16-09-2006, 02:15
k Lay, Tyr told me he TGed you can I have my land back now?

Also Nerotika I think I am the one who took over those territories and according to the history I wrote and posted (somethere) the only people that lived there were Pushkovites and thats for a 1000 years now, it was my starting land then I came to E2 and I am not planning on taking your long gone nation into the picture so sorry but you will have to do this some other way.
Nerotika
16-09-2006, 02:23
I think, at the very least, Nerotika should sign up to the off-site forums. Perhaps a discussion thread about the terrorist stuff would be better situated there?

Yes I agree, i`ll get on there. Also Im just to lazy to look it up but who owns the middle eastern countries, im planning on spanning there first so I need to know if I can get in there.
Nerotika
16-09-2006, 02:24
k Lay, Tyr told me he TGed you can I have my land back now?

Also Nerotika I think I am the one who took over those territories and according to the history I wrote and posted (somethere) the only people that lived there were Pushkovites and thats for a 1000 years now, it was my starting land then I came to E2 and I am not planning on taking your long gone nation into the picture so sorry but you will have to do this some other way.

Either way, I was on Earth II and it would be kinda f*ed up to exclude me in the history when I controlled the territories first. Plus its already posted in 'The Syndicate' history and discription.
Pushka
16-09-2006, 02:29
Okay dude I don't want to be an ass but you are not a part of my countrie's history and those were my starting territories. I don't care there you wrote it down that land does not belong to you and will not be yours in any forseeable future so be reasonable. Nobody seemed to mind me not including you in my history before then I posted a short version of it in my Communist to Democrat revolution thread so I don't see why they should now.
Nerotika
16-09-2006, 02:39
Okay dude I don't want to be an ass but you are not a part of my countrie's history and those were my starting territories. I don't care there you wrote it down that land does not belong to you and will not be yours in any forseeable future so be reasonable. Nobody seemed to mind me not including you in my history before so I don't see why they should now.

Im not saying you need to include me I suppose but I have already written down a discription including those lands and no-one informed me on that. Plus the immigration of my people was an official thread when I went under D12, pyschotika posted it for me because I did not have a computer so my exsitance can't just be denied. Oh-well anyway dont worry, your not my targets same with the entire of russian territories. I wont bring the fight there for a long time.

Cotland, I dont know the layout of your embassy but just so you know I am attacking it you might want to post. If you want to me rewrite the post I have tell me I dont want to be inaccurate on this.
Pushka
16-09-2006, 02:50
I am not worried about you taking my land, my problem is that I have written a history for my nation that as far as everyone is concerned is legitimate (Bjornya even included a very breath statement concerning my people in his own history) and now you come in and tell me that its not. According to you Pushkans are ex-Nerotikans and thats something I will not agree with.
Layarteb
16-09-2006, 07:49
k Lay, Tyr told me he TGed you can I have my land back now?

Also Nerotika I think I am the one who took over those territories and according to the history I wrote and posted (somethere) the only people that lived there were Pushkovites and thats for a 1000 years now, it was my starting land then I came to E2 and I am not planning on taking your long gone nation into the picture so sorry but you will have to do this some other way.

He did but he didn't give me any details so I don't know what to give you back. I TG'd him back asking for what lands go to you.
Spizania
16-09-2006, 14:58
"This is Sally Franasticia reporting from the newly opened Freiberberg mine, which was opened and is indeed named after the massive deposit of Freibergite was found in this region of the Transantarctic mountains, this mine will be one of the largest in the world, massively increasing production of silver, what will happen to the other metals produced from Freibergite has yet to be revealed by the Confederate Government or the mining commision, although the fact that the railway being built to the coast at Port Ronne is to be extended past the mine to a new secret government facility further along in the mountains cant fail to excite further speculation.
Sally Franasticia reporting for Spizanian Antarctic News"
Hawdawg
16-09-2006, 16:13
Damn video card is finally working again after a week of fighting with it. I have a "special" prize for NVIDIA if they would like it (10.5 boot). I will update the Death of an Icon today.

Cotland I don't think I will be able to post in Nerotika's post today, but if resources are needed from the Hawdawg Tokyo embassy let me know.


-Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
16-09-2006, 18:01
Anyone else pissed off about the Islamo-Nazis going nuts about the Pope's comments? I mean he was simply reading what some philosopher said- this is totally like the Denmark Cartoons all over again. And whats more the Islamo-Nazis are giving good and honest Muslims a bad name.

Hey Lay, you happen to know the guy's name you were talking to? I used to talk to a few SF guys on a forum years ago. Went by the name 'Bubba'. This other guy I talked to was an SF 'Commo', he was in MAC-V-SOG (CCC). Had a website, which I might be able to find. Had so many stories aswell, and it turns out they all really liked John Wayne's 'The Green Berets', the Montagnard's loved it aswell, apparently!
Layarteb
16-09-2006, 18:08
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Cymrea: Has actually been deleted by NS. The only active RP for his land is by Cotland for Christmas Island and Norfolk Island. As far as the rest goes, they shall be free claim.
Geneticon: Has actually been deleted by NS so pending completion of RPs, he will be stricken from the list.





Pantheaa [Post 16058]: Thread added.
Cotland [Post 16067]: Okay, claims noted.
Cotland [Post 16070]: Thread added.
Cotland [Post 16107]: Okay adjusted Chechnya on the claims list.
Bjornoya [Post 16122]: They all still have to affirm it here, sorry. I'll have it ready to go once they all approve of it on this post.
Nero [Post 16126]: I posted a news thread but it wasn't popular at all.
Hirgy/Nero [Post 16140]: I can't disagree with that.






Antarctica: To all Antarctican nations and all other nations. I've been looking for a more accurate map of Antarctica and should it be found would you be upset with a land jumble in it that would give much more accurate area. I would try to keep your area much as it is now so there would be little change, if any.
Dweladelfia prime: Still awaiting your posting as your puppet because of E5. ALM got on with his so just awaiting yours.
Geneticon/TLS 21-Day Threads: Let me know when the take overs are done so I can remove the threads and add the land.




Last Update: Page 1,071
Current Update: Page 1,077
Layarteb
16-09-2006, 18:14
FOR ALL CLAIMING RPs

Please tell me what you are claiming under what posts so that I don't have to search through the threads so that I can update claims listings.
Pantheaa
17-09-2006, 03:51
Anyone else pissed off about the Islamo-Nazis going nuts about the Pope's comments? I mean he was simply reading what some philosopher said- this is totally like the Denmark Cartoons all over again. And whats more the Islamo-Nazis are giving good and honest Muslims a bad name.

Hey Lay, you happen to know the guy's name you were talking to? I used to talk to a few SF guys on a forum years ago. Went by the name 'Bubba'. This other guy I talked to was an SF 'Commo', he was in MAC-V-SOG (CCC). Had a website, which I might be able to find. Had so many stories aswell, and it turns out they all really liked John Wayne's 'The Green Berets', the Montagnard's loved it aswell, apparently!

Yeah i am!! The Pope should call a crusade in response to the fatwa. I always wanted to be a knight
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 06:57
This is an interesting little tidbit of information.

White Tower

71% of total posts = 2 people
80% of total posts = 3 people
of which the lead person, 50% of his total posts are in this thread
of which the 2nd person, 45% of his posts are in this thread

Earth II

80% of total posts = 22 people
of which the lead person, 28% of his total posts are in this thread
of which the 2nd person, 21% of his total posts are in this thread

By the way, given the ever changing slope of things now it seems like we're going to have to redo that world map. Bjorn what program did you use to make it?
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 07:52
I pruned the RP list.
Hawdawg
17-09-2006, 15:31
Good finish on the Icon RP fellas, can ya'll think of anything else to add?


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 15:37
Good finish on the Icon RP fellas, can ya'll think of anything else to add?


-Hawdawg

Probably a post about Wells becoming PM.
Saint Lazare
17-09-2006, 15:44
This is an interesting little tidbit of information.



By the way, given the ever changing slope of things now it seems like we're going to have to redo that world map. Bjorn what program did you use to make it?



I've got a relatively good map source...

It's only good for the world, but it's nice and neat - a lot of other people use it, and I use it for the EV maps. Tthe only bad thing is that it doesn't include all of the states and nations, so there will be empty spots, which means if people want to have completely accurate maps, this isn't the absolute best one. But if you want to get one, I'll post a link to a site that has one, or I could post a link to the one I have [it's blank]. ?bene?


ALSO!!! keep your calendars marked for 27SEP2006, because changes in the Grand Duchy are to be made that will change the world!!!! [maybe... this is what is known as an "overstatement"...]
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 19:36
The 6.8 x 48mm LDC round is going to be adopted by the ILM immediately. The M80 Assault Rifle, the new standard battle rifle for the Army, Navy, Air Force, etc. will feature this round. Out of a 20.80 inch barrel it will have a muzzle velocity of 2,975 fps. The M81 Paratrooper / Marine Assault Rifle, the new standard battle rifle for Marines and Airborne has a 20.00 inch barrel which makes marginal changes to the muzzle velocity. Carbine versions that feature a 14 inch barrel will see a muzzle velocity of 2,850 fps and 2,900 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. Out of a 24 inch barrel, accurized for sniper duty, the round has a muzzle velocity of 3,050 fps.

Two types of rounds will be offered. The first is a standard BALL ammunition that will provide the desired effects of this program. Capable of penetrating roughly 650mm of soft tissue, the round will yaw after impact, creating wounding potential, that made the 5.56 x 45mm round so devestating. In addition, the round fragments at higher impact velocities. The second round is an accurized sniper round that is made for ranges out to 900 meters.

Effective ranges for bullets & velocity

Ball @ 140gr @ 2,975 fps = 650m & 2,750.85 ft·lbf
Ball @ 140gr @ 2,900 fps = 600m & 2,613.90 ft·lbf
Ball @ 140gr @ 2,850 fps = 550m & 2,524.54 ft·lbf
Sniper @ 148gr @ 3,050 fps = 900m & 3,056.52 ft·lbf
Pushka
17-09-2006, 20:12
Lay Tyr TG you again yet?
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 20:52
Нет
Hirgizstan
17-09-2006, 21:01
Haw, I'd like the Fuhrer to meet with DM/PM Wells before we wrap things up. Perhaps I should RP calling Wells' office from the hotel and set up the meeting that way?
Spizania
17-09-2006, 21:12
The 6.8 x 48mm LDC round is going to be adopted by the ILM immediately. The M80 Assault Rifle, the new standard battle rifle for the Army, Navy, Air Force, etc. will feature this round. Out of a 20.80 inch barrel it will have a muzzle velocity of 2,975 fps. The M81 Paratrooper / Marine Assault Rifle, the new standard battle rifle for Marines and Airborne has a 20.00 inch barrel which makes marginal changes to the muzzle velocity. Carbine versions that feature a 14 inch barrel will see a muzzle velocity of 2,850 fps and 2,900 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. Out of a 24 inch barrel, accurized for sniper duty, the round has a muzzle velocity of 3,050 fps.

Two types of rounds will be offered. The first is a standard BALL ammunition that will provide the desired effects of this program. Capable of penetrating roughly 650mm of soft tissue, the round will yaw after impact, creating wounding potential, that made the 5.56 x 45mm round so devestating. In addition, the round fragments at higher impact velocities. The second round is an accurized sniper round that is made for ranges out to 900 meters.

Effective ranges for bullets & velocity

Ball @ 140gr @ 2,975 fps = 650m & 2,750.85 ft·lbf
Ball @ 140gr @ 2,900 fps = 600m & 2,613.90 ft·lbf
Ball @ 140gr @ 2,850 fps = 550m & 2,524.54 ft·lbf
Sniper @ 148gr @ 3,050 fps = 900m & 3,056.52 ft·lbf

This is a nice cartridge, if only the Confederate Army wasnt about to switch to my modernised 7 x 57mm Mauser Cartridge, 120gr @ 3400fps [Thanks to Doom for the estimations of the stats]
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 21:25
This is a nice cartridge, if only the Confederate Army wasnt about to switch to my modernised 7 x 57mm Mauser Cartridge, 120gr @ 3400fps [Thanks to Doom for the estimations of the stats]

Nice round. It's going to kick like hell probably but it'll hurt you in the morning.
Bjornoya
17-09-2006, 23:18
Lay I use the humbled MS paint to make the maps, haven't seen what lands have changed hands but when all is set in stone I can fix it in a jiffy.

Yeah, land trade was a few pages back, Krey gets resource deal as well but didn't list it originally as it was not part of land exchange, so guess still need confirmation from Krey,USB and DP.
Layarteb
17-09-2006, 23:41
Lay I use the humbled MS paint to make the maps, haven't seen what lands have changed hands but when all is set in stone I can fix it in a jiffy.

Yeah, land trade was a few pages back, Krey gets resource deal as well but didn't list it originally as it was not part of land exchange, so guess still need confirmation from Krey,USB and DP.


Aye when they can. Actually the map has changed significantly and is about to change further so yeah no use doing anything just yet, just curious to see if maybe I could rock it in Fireworks.
Bjornoya
18-09-2006, 00:18
Aye when they can. Actually the map has changed significantly and is about to change further so yeah no use doing anything just yet, just curious to see if maybe I could rock it in Fireworks.

If you wanna upgrade it be me guest, I have the original world map in black and white that I just 'colored in' and cleaned up if that will help.
Layarteb
18-09-2006, 03:02
Why I hate Cablevision

I pull up to my apartment and see two guys outside by the cable hookups meddling around. So I ask them what's wrong. They tell me it's a cable problem. They leave. I have no cable. So I go outside and try to meddle with it with one of the tenants on the 2nd floor (who had the problem). His cable is fine. I have none. Can't figure it out and call them up. I have to wait until tomorrow and I have to stay home between 10a and 8p. Kiss my ass. I schedule the appointment and go back outside, my television on maximum volume. I proceed to just change the leads on it and on the 4th one, the one that they hooked up to nothing and just left hanging, I connect and VIOLA! Cable works. They can bite me. They fuck it up and I have to wait to get it fixed. Suck mein arse you sucking sons of bitches!
Hawdawg
18-09-2006, 03:11
Haw, I'd like the Fuhrer to meet with DM/PM Wells before we wrap things up. Perhaps I should RP calling Wells' office from the hotel and set up the meeting that way?

Probably a post about Wells becoming PM.

Can do on both accounts. I will set up the meeting first then make the announcement of the office change.


-Hawdawg
Layarteb
18-09-2006, 03:31
I have this much money at my instant disposal:

$97,438,204,270,000 ($97.43820427 trillion)

Sooo who needs a few loans?
Layarteb
18-09-2006, 04:34
RomeW in Post 15938 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11619292&postcount=15938) claimed the below areas in red.

Marimaia in Post 15939 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11619820&postcount=15939) claimed the below areas in blue.

Open
India (Chhattisgarh [part], Delhi*, Jharkhand, Manipur, Nagaland)


Marimaia
India (Arunachal Pradesh, Bihar, Uttaranchal)
Nepal
Palau (part)


RomeW
Bangladesh
Bhutan
India (Assam, Chandigarh, Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Daman and Diu, Maharashtra**, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Sikkim, Tripura, West Bengal)
New Zealand
Sri Lanka (North Central, North Western, Northern, Western) [Transfered to Doomingsland]

* Joint administration between TLS & Varsola, defaults to Varsola
**Some bad news though, for RomeW. Maharashtra was never in TLS it was for Varsola. Sorry about that, map fubar'd.

I updated the claims list & maps. I tried to update the E2 World Map but I think I missed some stuff. It needs further updating but in time.
Pantheaa
18-09-2006, 12:30
I would like to claim Cymrea's former territory of Andorra if no one else wants it. RP will follow
Saint Lazare
18-09-2006, 17:40
I updated the claims list & maps. I tried to update the E2 World Map but I think I missed some stuff. It needs further updating but in time.

If it's perfectly permissible, I will find a way to incorporate these territories to Saint Lazare.

Open
India (Chhattisgarh [part], Delhi*, Jharkhand, Manipur, Nagaland)



EDIT --> Lay, I will email you the map as soon as I find it...
Kormanthor
18-09-2006, 18:37
Ok I realize you wish to keep your Earth in a MT timeline. However I wish you would warm to the idea that representives of a space based race might run across your Earth during their travels ( which does change the fact that you are still MT ) and just decide to drop in for a visit. You have to admit it would cause quite a stir among the countries of your Earth. So I offer RPing such a race to add some spice to your same ol same ol world events.
Pushka
18-09-2006, 21:05
Dude Lay Tyr TGed you saying that I can have his land in Russia, so can I have it already?
Layarteb
18-09-2006, 22:48
Dude Lay Tyr TGed you saying that I can have his land in Russia, so can I have it already?

All he said was that you could have "the" land. There were no specifics. Now if he can't get on the forums and see that you are meaning ALL Russian land then I want to know that he means that. There's a reason for this so that nobody can say anything about anything and say that they didn't agree to it and this and that.
Pushka
18-09-2006, 23:07
Yes I understand you want to stick to every technicality you can find oh well, I emailed him asking to TG you again so he should do it soon.
Layarteb
18-09-2006, 23:25
Yes I understand you want to stick to every technicality you can find oh well, I emailed him asking to TG you again so he should do it soon.

You know for someone who wants in, he is sure doing everything he can to piss me off. If you don't like the fact that I want to confirm with Tyrandis, explicitly, just as EVERY land trade is done here then have a nice day and go join somewhere else, the rules don't apply on a case-by-case basis. Your presence here or not won't affect my sleep at night so keep up the attitude and flounder in yourself. If you want to start fresh and start anew you could have but you seemed hell bent on picking up exactly where you left off, in every respect.
Layarteb
19-09-2006, 00:59
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

So who knows Latin?
Pushka
19-09-2006, 01:24
You know for someone who wants in, he is sure doing everything he can to piss me off. If you don't like the fact that I want to confirm with Tyrandis, explicitly, just as EVERY land trade is done here then have a nice day and go join somewhere else, the rules don't apply on a case-by-case basis. Your presence here or not won't affect my sleep at night so keep up the attitude and flounder in yourself. If you want to start fresh and start anew you could have but you seemed hell bent on picking up exactly where you left off, in every respect.

OOC: I really don't care anymore. Tyr will confirm that trade and I'll be in as for starting fresh well doesn't seem like anything has changed around here so I'll end up in the same spot as I was the last time so might as well not waste anybody's time and start there I left off. I won't get into verbal debates and other OOC stuff with you, its simply not worth it loosing my nerve over a game but in the other respects its not like I can expect from you to change your mind about me or my nation so here we are and I won't say another word about that. You'll probably come up with a smart ass remark but I am beyond responding to that now. (Probably you gonna say something about me being a jackass for assuming too much with a slight twist towards the perspective of you being a saint or something else from that same opera)
RomeW
19-09-2006, 02:58
I'm doing a job searching course up in Alliston and it's been taking up a bit more time than I thought it would, so I'm going to go on D13 until it's finished (two weeks). I'll finish my threads then.

Lay- I don't think I ever claimed any part of the Punjab. Other than that, the maps are good.
[NS]Kreynoria
19-09-2006, 03:05
Confirmed.

Damn, when I lose Kenya my land area will be under 100,000 sq. miles. I mean come on, I'm one of the most active members, don't I deserve a bigger entitlemnent:upyours: (joking duh)

I am starting to feel like WW2 Japan: crammed and militaristic.
Layarteb
19-09-2006, 03:24
Push you do realize that I had no problems with you coming back but when you started running your mouth off that's when I got annoyed. You also seem to automatically assume that your rejoining will be allowed.
Bjornoya
19-09-2006, 04:55
Kreynoria;11700711']Confirmed.

Damn, when I lose Kenya my land area will be under 100,000 sq. miles. I mean come on, I'm one of the most active members, don't I deserve a bigger entitlemnent:upyours: (joking duh)

I am starting to feel like WW2 Japan: crammed and militaristic.

Visara will make sure your troops get some good active training...

BTW I'm taking my time on this, aiming for bout 2 posts a week. If there's a rush I'll get my ass in gear, people just need to talk if they're i na hurry, otherwise will do as is.
Pushka
19-09-2006, 17:27
Push you do realize that I had no problems with you coming back but when you started running your mouth off that's when I got annoyed. You also seem to automatically assume that your rejoining will be allowed.

Why wouldn't it? I don't seem to be breaking any rules now and back in the day I wasn't breaking any the rest of you guys weren't breaking. Anyways did he TG you yet?
Spizania
19-09-2006, 17:50
The world map and the map of Antartica dont agree, the latter gives me an enclave on the Antartic penisular, while the former doesnt. Which has precedence?
Saint Lazare
19-09-2006, 22:11
If it's perfectly permissible, I will find a way to incorporate these territories to Saint Lazare.

Open
India (Chhattisgarh [part], Delhi*, Jharkhand, Manipur, Nagaland)



EDIT --> Lay, I will email you the map as soon as I find it...

I'm guessing that this is perfectly fine, so I'll have an RP thread up very soon?

I understand that you might be swamped, so I'm just posting this here so that you can see that I gave you two hints. I'll start an RP thread soon, and you can tell me if it's going on very well or not.
Saint Lazare
19-09-2006, 23:20
As promised:

SIC - so-SIC-the-Grand-Duke-doesn't-even-know-about-it!!!:

It begins...

OPERATION: GRAND ETAT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500302)
Layarteb
19-09-2006, 23:27
Why wouldn't it? I don't seem to be breaking any rules now and back in the day I wasn't breaking any the rest of you guys weren't breaking. Anyways did he TG you yet?

Keep it up and find out. No he hasn't when he does I'll let you know.
Hawdawg
20-09-2006, 01:12
Why wouldn't it? I don't seem to be breaking any rules now and back in the day I wasn't breaking any the rest of you guys weren't breaking. Anyways did he TG you yet?

Quiveling about past events is pointless. Nobody broke any rules. If you are looking to turn over a new leaf this isn't the road to take. Pushka Tyrandis has had all kinds of hell connecting to Jolt, he has had connection issues all summer and they have bled over into september (several of his RP's were stretched out for extended periods because of this). He will eventually find a way to get back on, remember patience is a virtue.

-Hawdawg
Pyschotika
20-09-2006, 15:38
Hey guys, sorry.

No internet at the house for a bit, basement is under construction and I'd rather not argue my mom into realizing we can just set the router up stair or something like that.

Oh well, I'll be posting from school and shit. Meh.
Neuvo Rica
20-09-2006, 15:48
You can take me off D13 now.
Layarteb
21-09-2006, 02:54
The world map and the map of Antartica dont agree, the latter gives me an enclave on the Antartic penisular, while the former doesnt. Which has precedence?

Yeah it's hard as hell to model. Bjorn got it right the first time and I think I fubar'd it when I tried to update it.
Hirgizstan
21-09-2006, 12:29
Just a Heads Up for people I am RPing with: I'm off to England tomorrow and I won't be back until Sunday evening. I might be able to post on Sunday, but don't expect me to be fully back until Monday.
Pyschotika
21-09-2006, 18:14
Okay, back to full activity.

And Pushka, as far as I'm concerned, I recognize Nerotika as having his land before you had it. Both Internally and Externally.
Nerotika
21-09-2006, 18:24
Are those parts in India, open to claims or have they been claimed...cause If they can be claimed i`ll claim them. Your funky rules and stuff is be cramping me style lol...60's mumbo jumbo.

If anything goes up for claims I want to know ASAP, a syndicate backed government would be so fun to RP in a country...like the taliban on more non-islamic lol.
Nerotika
21-09-2006, 18:27
Oh and Lay, your going to have to change affected nations, after the whole cotland thing...as well as with Hirgizstan. I dont know if you would add yourself to the affected but if you are sending troops against mine you might want to. Just updating a little. Also I have no idea where the EII forums are...can somone post a link for me?
Hirgizstan
21-09-2006, 18:34
How can I send troops against you, your not a nation. And if you decide to actually try and set up a Taliban-esque nation, then your signing your death warrant.

The troops in Japan have been there for ages, I have two bases there, and I'm worried about my embassy being attacked, thus I have moved a Carrier in toward the shore so the SEAL QRF can get there a little faster if need be.

And check Page 1 for the link to the Off-Site Forums. I also think Saint Lazare has claimed the Indian land your talking about. Check his 'Operation: Grand-Etat' RP to make sure.
Cotland
21-09-2006, 18:48
Okay, back to full activity.
Pys, you mind me placing a battlegroup off your capitol or not?
Nerotika
21-09-2006, 19:22
How can I send troops against you, your not a nation. And if you decide to actually try and set up a Taliban-esque nation, then your signing your death warrant.

The troops in Japan have been there for ages, I have two bases there, and I'm worried about my embassy being attacked, thus I have moved a Carrier in toward the shore so the SEAL QRF can get there a little faster if need be.

And check Page 1 for the link to the Off-Site Forums. I also think Saint Lazare has claimed the Indian land your talking about. Check his 'Operation: Grand-Etat' RP to make sure.

It was just an idea...thought it would be fun to RP an terrorist backed government...or whatever.

The same way America is sending troops against Al Quida and whats left of the Taliban as well as the insurgency, they went into the country that was housing them. Of cource doing that would piss off pyschotika as he is being very tempramental right now to any of my suggestions.

Your embassy will be safe, If I had planned to attack it I would have done it at the same time as the Cotland embassy, my window for attack on you has closed though I was concidering it ^.^. Dont you just love terrorism.

I dont know who the moderator in the EII forums is, but if you could set up a page for International terrorism or somthing of that sorts then I can port news events, maybe get some accomplises ^.^, plan attacks stuff like that. I dont know but yeah. Also this way I can talk to others about this, countires that want to sign treaties with me in exchange for items...like the US had for awhile there with the Taliban, but then they changed their minds once they had the county out of soviet hands...hmm ok off that rant before it begins.
Pantheaa
21-09-2006, 20:40
You guys think im crazy check out this Hugo Chavez who does a freaking BOOK REVIEW at the UN and calls Bush the Devil. Seriously if you listen to the translater and all the delegates they looked like they were about to burst out laughing during his speech. Next year they should reinvite and have him do another book review, this time on chicken little. He can tell delegates about how the sky is falling. I don't like Bush but his speech at the UN was by for the best in which he states that the goal of the UN should be creating democracy and progressivism in the ME.

Im surprise we didn't arrest the Iran president!! That guy is walking on your soil and yet he is the biggest sponsor of terrorism worldwide

Military coup in Thailand also...looks like the Monarchy is coming back in Thailand, this is actually good news from what i heard cause it stops instability in that region.

The socialist government of Hungary admit that they won the election with voter fraud...WOW. Kind of no surprise though since socialist parties in Europe are having trouble winning elections now and days.

Anyways just my 2 cents on all the crap thats going on
Hirgizstan
21-09-2006, 21:46
Yeah, I couldn't believe Chavez, I really couldn't. Bolton had a good reply, "I won't dignify that...I have real work to do." Chomsky and Chavez are the ones who probably smell like sulphur.

And yeah, how come Ahmadinutcase was allowed into the US at all? That seems very strange to me, considering there are no diplomatic links between the US and Iran.

Panth, you should try and find the audio transcript of the Hungarian President's speech, it sounds really weird. I heard the translation of it, and the words sound so strange, like maybe it was co-erced or something, but then he admitted to it. But who the hell cares, its Hungary!
Pushka
21-09-2006, 22:22
Okay, back to full activity.

And Pushka, as far as I'm concerned, I recognize Nerotika as having his land before you had it. Both Internally and Externally.

Well forgive me for not caring about that. No one had any problems with my history then I was around and nobody except you seems to have any problems right now. Look at every one else, I am sure Bjornya's land belonged to someone else before he came here and yet nobody (including me) has any problem with the historic background he wrote for his nation. Once I get back in I will use the history I already have. I would like not to be an ass but I don't see any way to find a compromise in this situation. Pushkans are not ex-Nerotikans and you can't do anything about that.
Saint Lazare
21-09-2006, 22:54
I'm just asking if this is perfectly alright, since I don't want to get caught in doing something that's unreasonable. Of course, I think it's perfectly, but there are some details that I want to iron out, and I'd appreciate any reasonable feedback.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500302 [This is my India claims thread... it's part two of three hundred thousand in a series, but I'll see how things turn out...]




FYI >>> Lay, nice job tying the murders together - no one ever guess it :D
Varsola
21-09-2006, 23:03
I AM around, you know. Meh, I still own half of Delhi. I'll be posting in your thread soon, but well, a little advance notice might have been nice.
Cotland
21-09-2006, 23:09
I AM around, you know. Meh, I still own half of Delhi. I'll be posting in your thread soon, but well, a little advance notice might have been nice.
Then you should be a bit more active and not just take up space that could be given to people who actually give a shit about E2...!
Saint Lazare
21-09-2006, 23:50
I AM around, you know. Meh, I still own half of Delhi. I'll be posting in your thread soon, but well, a little advance notice might have been nice.

I'm confused now...
Layarteb
21-09-2006, 23:52
I'm confused now...

He and TLS had joint control over Delhi.
Ottoman Khaif
22-09-2006, 00:03
I'm just asking if this is perfectly alright, since I don't want to get caught in doing something that's unreasonable. Of course, I think it's perfectly, but there are some details that I want to iron out, and I'd appreciate any reasonable feedback.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500302 [This is my India claims thread... it's part two of three hundred thousand in a series, but I'll see how things turn out...]




FYI >>> Lay, nice job tying the murders together - no one ever guess it :D

Woot I have some new neighbor.....want some milk and cookies?
Saint Lazare
22-09-2006, 01:52
I AM around, you know. Meh, I still own half of Delhi. I'll be posting in your thread soon, but well, a little advance notice might have been nice.

I welcome any potential enterprise between our two peoples [my Duke doesn't know about this yet, so this is probably better described at the moment as a "philandering Army Group seizing control of TLS territory in the wake of anarchy" more than "the Grand Duchy of Saint Lazare"

But after some brief misunderstanding, things will work out, as my people will be more than willing to coordinate and cooperate in our concurrent occuation of Delhi.

Woot I have some new neighbor.....want some milk and cookies?

Um, sure. I'll bring the milk, you bring the cookies, and we'll have a feast.
Marimaia
22-09-2006, 10:36
Just to check, does Saint Lazare know that Pyschotika is also claiming (at least) Nagaland from what I've read of 'Opere-Shon Misuto'?

Also, Pys, have you posted details of which of TLS's territories you're going after? Now that Opere-Shon Misuto has become a D12 thread, we need to know what you're claiming.
Tyrandis
22-09-2006, 16:03
w00t! I FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET IN.

*fanfare, drums, etc.*

All I had to do was replace my awesome, $150 gaming router with a piece of shit I got from Circuit City free after rebate.

So what did I miss?
Neuvo Rica
22-09-2006, 17:06
not alot
Pyschotika
22-09-2006, 20:36
I'm invading 16 and 19.
Saint Lazare
22-09-2006, 21:23
Okay...

I find that this is way tooooooo confusing. So, I'm taking the red parts = 5, 11, and Delhi. [not the Varsola parts... or whatever else...]
Pyschotika
22-09-2006, 21:44
Well forgive me for not caring about that. No one had any problems with my history then I was around and nobody except you seems to have any problems right now. Look at every one else, I am sure Bjornya's land belonged to someone else before he came here and yet nobody (including me) has any problem with the historic background he wrote for his nation. Once I get back in I will use the history I already have. I would like not to be an ass but I don't see any way to find a compromise in this situation. Pushkans are not ex-Nerotikans and you can't do anything about that.

Other than the fact that anyone who used to have land that is now Bjornoyan really is complaining or even active on NS at all except for anything that may be yours.

And not to mention where as you are a really annoying ass hole and as far as I'm concerned I will keep on bugging you about the entire ordeal and anyone who were in those territories and still alive are ethnically Nerotikan and not ethnically Pushkan.

Basically, I don't give a shit what others and you may think of it. So this is a dead 'argument'.
Saint Lazare
22-09-2006, 22:18
I'm trying to make a map, but quite honestly, I find that the maps do not match either other or [more importantly] the claims. SOOO, since this is my first map for EII, I'm thinking about showing everyone what I have done and have each person note what is missing [or perhaps what is added]. I'm not done with it, but essentially, I hope that this will be a good map to work with. Again, it's not detailed for specific regions like Russia or anything else, but in time, I hope that what it is will be good enough for a basic referencec guide.

EDIT - so aptly noted, Cotland!!!

oops...
Cotland
23-09-2006, 00:09
I'm trying to make a map, but quite honestly, I find that the maps do not match either other or [more importantly] the claims. SOOO, since this is my first map for EV, I'm thinking about showing everyone what I have done and have each person note what is missing [or perhaps what is added]. I'm not done with it, but essentially, I hope that this will be a good map to work with. Again, it's not detailed for specific regions like Russia or anything else, but in time, I hope that what it is will be good enough for a basic referencec guide.
WTF?
Pushka
23-09-2006, 02:15
Other than the fact that anyone who used to have land that is now Bjornoyan really is complaining or even active on NS at all except for anything that may be yours.

And not to mention where as you are a really annoying ass hole and as far as I'm concerned I will keep on bugging you about the entire ordeal and anyone who were in those territories and still alive are ethnically Nerotikan and not ethnically Pushkan.

Basically, I don't give a shit what others and you may think of it. So this is a dead 'argument'.

Well lets see who is being an asshole now. Anyways, calm down kid, this isn't such a big deal, no need to get upset. I'd say we should have the E2 moderators resolve this issue for us so it can be finalized, once it is you can think whatever you want it just won't matter. Lay, Mari what are thoughts on this issue?
N Germania
23-09-2006, 03:47
Well, I'm glad I finally got Latvia. That took forever and a day!
;)
N Germania
23-09-2006, 03:49
Bjornoya,

Any way we could work out a deal where I could obtain Estonia from you?
Layarteb
23-09-2006, 05:56
Well lets see who is being an asshole now. Anyways, calm down kid, this isn't such a big deal, no need to get upset. I'd say we should have the E2 moderators resolve this issue for us so it can be finalized, once it is you can think whatever you want it just won't matter. Lay, Mari what are thoughts on this issue?

I say the two of you deal with it yourselves and off site. Mari?
Bjornoya
23-09-2006, 08:25
Bjornoya,

Any way we could work out a deal where I could obtain Estonia from you?

If you're willing to trade your part of Algeria I'd think it's possible.
Marimaia
23-09-2006, 10:04
I say the two of you deal with it yourselves and off site. Mari?

I agree with that idea. Differences of opinion go off-site so they don't turn into NS mod-attracting 'situations' if tempers get a bit inflamed.
Pyschotika
23-09-2006, 18:25
Whenever there is a slight argument it is apparently a flame fest...

and whenever I have a slight argument I'm apparently not being calm and letting this ruin my life and I'm going to go all psycho over it...

right...
Cotland
23-09-2006, 18:52
Pys, you mind me placing a battlegroup off your capitol or not?

BUMP for Pyschotica!
Layarteb
23-09-2006, 19:05
Whenever there is a slight argument it is apparently a flame fest...

and whenever I have a slight argument I'm apparently not being calm and letting this ruin my life and I'm going to go all psycho over it...

right...

It's because the two of you can't keep it as a slight argument and are already starting to snap at each other. Don't forget, Mari and I have been watching slight arguments like this erupt into flame fests for a long time now so they are pretty easy to predict. All we're asking is for the both of you to go off-site and argue about it (it's not like we're asking you to give blood and shake hands).

Layarteb is ranked 1st in the region and 876th in the world for Largest Public Transport Department.

As a side note, pretty cool. We have a lot of public transport and all of it uses either ethanol or some other clean energy source. We're a major power in the world of clean, renewable energy.
Pyschotika
23-09-2006, 19:15
If Pushka started flaiming, for the record, I really wouldn't have said much.

To be honest I had a real layed back night last night, really I wouldn't let some stupid thing on some internet thing really make me type such things like 'you're a flame word'.
Layarteb
23-09-2006, 19:34
If Pushka started flaiming, for the record, I really wouldn't have said much.

To be honest I had a real layed back night last night, really I wouldn't let some stupid thing on some internet thing really make me type such things like 'you're a flame word'.

We don't care who starts it, who feeds it, who finishes it or what. If you have a problem with going off-site and arguing about it then telegram the mods, ask them permission to have arguments and stuff on the II forums and say that you'll take full responsibility for any consequences that come from the situation and then explain to each and every person in this thread, personally, why this thread got locked. Now I'm honing in on you because you're giving me shit about it instead of just saying okay and going off-site.
Pyschotika
23-09-2006, 20:20
Well I don't really want an argument with Pushka, nor do I want any conflicts with anyone period.

So I won't really make a response to anything, and I expect Pushka to be a grown up as well and won't respond either.

I'm not even mad about it if it makes it any better. Anyways, lets just drop it.
Layarteb
23-09-2006, 20:48
I introduce Chapter 13 of Ride the Lightning (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448866). It uses a bit of the WOD storyline :).
Cotland
23-09-2006, 22:06
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500808

Exercise Nordic Hammer - ATTN Layarteb
Pushka
24-09-2006, 03:06
Well I don't really want an argument with Pushka, nor do I want any conflicts with anyone period.

So I won't really make a response to anything, and I expect Pushka to be a grown up as well and won't respond either.

I'm not even mad about it if it makes it any better. Anyways, lets just drop it.

Works for me.
Tyrandis
24-09-2006, 03:08
Just droppin by to confirm the transfer of all of my remaining Russian territories to Pushka.
Layarteb
24-09-2006, 03:18
Just droppin by to confirm the transfer of all of my remaining Russian territories to Pushka.

Cool stuff. I'll go and do an update now.
Layarteb
24-09-2006, 03:38
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Saint Lazare [Post 16174]: Claim added.
RomeW [Post 16182]: Punjab? It's controlled by O.K.
Saint Lazare [Post 16189]: Thread added.
NR [Post 16193]: D13 removed.
Nero [Post 16198]: Updated the thing, let me know if its right.
Nero [Post 16201]: Put up a post in the Roleplaying forum (http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=9).
Tyrandis [Post 16213]: Ain't that some shit...Good to see you're in now.
Pyschotika [Post 16215]: Alright added.
Saint Lazare [Post 16216]: Alright added.
Tyrandis/Pushka [Post 16235]: Land trade done.






Antarctica: To all Antarctican nations and all other nations. I've been looking for a more accurate map of Antarctica and should it be found would you be upset with a land jumble in it that would give much more accurate area. I would try to keep your area much as it is now so there would be little change, if any.
Dweladelfia prime: Still awaiting your posting as your puppet because of E5. ALM got on with his so just awaiting yours.
Geneticon/TLS 21-Day Threads: Let me know when the take overs are done so I can remove the threads.




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Current Update: Page 1,083
Saint Lazare
24-09-2006, 07:20
BEAT GAME EVER!!@@!!@!!

WOOHOO!!!!!!

typing this stuff takes mintes to do and i still wated... id post more but id problay mess things up so bafly... ;p;d;d;d;d
Hawdawg
24-09-2006, 16:04
Official Press Release
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

As of today, Gordon Wells has been chosen as the new Prime Minister of Hawdawg. Please update all of your communications and letters to reflect this change.

Sincerely,

Cynthia Giles
Press Secretary
Office of the Prime Minister
Layarteb
24-09-2006, 16:37
Official Press Release
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

As of today, Gordon Wells has been chosen as the new Prime Minister of Hawdawg. Please update all of your communications and letters to reflect this change.

Sincerely,

Cynthia Giles
Press Secretary
Office of the Prime Minister

Duely noted.
Pushka
24-09-2006, 17:31
Yay, Im officially in. Expect an RP once I wake up a bit more.
Saint Lazare
24-09-2006, 17:45
Confirmed Body Count: 13,584
Unconfirmed Body Count: 13,826+

Those seem to be a grave underestimate...

And good lord... I look like I died over my keyboard...
Layarteb
24-09-2006, 18:25
Those seem to be a grave underestimate...

And good lord... I look like I died over my keyboard...

Those are highly accurate.
Pushka
24-09-2006, 19:41
Here we go:

"Из праха востающие"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11725837#post11725837

And I'd like to go by Russian Communist Republic from now on.
Whittlesfield
24-09-2006, 20:56
I just thought I'd point out that TLS is no longer active due to problems he's having with Jolt, not due to lack of interest.
On a side note, is it still possible to claim land?
Layarteb
24-09-2006, 22:59
Here we go:

"Из праха востающие"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11725837#post11725837

And I'd like to go by Russian Communist Republic from now on.

Added/Changed

I just thought I'd point out that TLS is no longer active due to problems he's having with Jolt, not due to lack of interest.
On a side note, is it still possible to claim land?

Decree 2: Earth II was originally created with the idea of giving a home to those who could not get a home on Earth I, the original Earth. In that, members of Earth I were not permitted to be part of Earth II and vica versa. This rule, we believe, has held the strongest. However, in the dawn of a new age whereby most Earths don't exist past a few weeks and other, alternative communities form offering something very unique and not like that of an Earth, there should be some guidelines to those. First and foremost, members of Earth II are not permitted to hold land on another Earth unless it is with a puppet that is not related to said nation. Members who participate on other Earths with independent puppets are asked to post on in their registered name for Earth II to avoid confusion. Secondly, members who use puppets on other Earths may not interchange resources between said Earth and Earth II, they exist completely independent of each other and do not intercross under any circumstances. Thirdly, off-site Earths shall not be subject to this rule. Members may join any number of off-site Earths, defined as Earths not present on NationStates forums, as regularly or as little as they wish. Fourthly, simulations that portray real-life countries, scenarios, events, and so on and so fourth shall be allowed as they portray something independent of Earth II. Members do not have to use a puppet on said simulations but they must maintain that both are independent of each other. In light of this, said simulations must be representing of something "real-life." Fifthly, derivatives of Earth II will be regarded as subject to this decree and not a case for exception unless presenting a "real-life" situation. Decree originally enacted in post #139 and #181. Ammended in post #9006.
Pantheaa
25-09-2006, 02:14
Here we go:

"Из праха востающие"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11725837#post11725837

And I'd like to go by Russian Communist Republic from now on.

Wow im stuck in between communist nation in Russia and a couple of Capitalist nations in Europe...i feel so significant
[NS]Kreynoria
25-09-2006, 02:21
Yes, it is still possible to claim land. And are you a part of the EV crew? Lay'll want you to make a puppet for E2.
Saint Lazare
25-09-2006, 03:53
I just thought I'd point out that TLS is no longer active due to problems he's having with Jolt, not due to lack of interest.
On a side note, is it still possible to claim land?

Does this invalidate my Indian Revelations?
Layarteb
25-09-2006, 04:44
Does this invalidate my Indian Revelations?

No.

How is this idea?
Off-site we do a listing of all major corporations and stuff? We would have the following information maybe (Bjorn any more needed?)

Name
CEO
Main Product(s)
HQ Location
Employment size
Description
Countries In

Some of the ones in Layarteb
Manchurian Global
Layarteb Defense Corporation
Imperial Energy Corporation
Umbrella Corporation
Bjornoya
25-09-2006, 05:46
No.

How is this idea?
Off-site we do a listing of all major corporations and stuff? We would have the following information maybe (Bjorn any more needed?)

Name
CEO
Main Product(s)
HQ Location
Employment size
Description
Countries In

Some of the ones in Layarteb
Manchurian Global
Layarteb Defense Corporation
Imperial Energy Corporation
Umbrella Corporation

Good idea, I'd change some categories though with a few minor adjustments.

Name:
Acting CEO:
HQ-> Location of Incorporation:
Assets:
Circulating Capital:
Labor Force:
Political Affiliations:
Number of locations:
Countries of Operation:

Not much difference but adding a few more specifics.

BTW I'm making a post tonight. If this message is editted it is because I'm procrastinating, so don't let me edit this message and don't let me be lazy. I'm off to update BISE and write my next post in 'The End' which at this rate will take an eternity to finish. Damn me...