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Earth II - Revitalization

Introduction
Earth II (officially Earth II: Revitalization) is a continuation of the original Earth II. Originally founded because all of the space in Earth I was taken, Earth II was started by a country known as Yerffej but unfortunately died due to inactivity. It was reborn, so to speak, on November 13, 2004 by Colodia and Layarteb and has since become the longest post on International Incidents with its 24,189th post on November 22, 2008. It is also the longest continually running "Earth" on Nation-States. Earth II has seen periods of intense activity and periods of lulls, particularly in RPing as the main thread is always active with "chit-chat" and postings.

Originally, Earth II was moderated by Colodia and Layarteb but this changed to Layarteb and Marimaia with Colodia's departure from Nation-States on March 10, 2005 and further to Layarteb and United States of Brink with Marimaia's departure from Nation-States on March 24, 2009. Since its inception, Earth II has peaked to almost 80 members but is currently at a low with just 15 members, many of whom are some of the oldest members on both Earth II and Nation-States. New members are always encouraged to join as land is quite often available. Roleplaying is of the highest caliber and all members are encouraged to join and start as many threads as they please, the more the better.

Earth II is updated frequently and, at most, once a month. Features include a spreadsheet with details and data on each and every country, a comprehensive claims list, a world map, individual continent or regional maps (depending on the claim levels), off-site supplemental forums, and regular gameplay.

The Earth II Charter serves as a concrete and organized establishment of principles, rules, regulations, conduct, and order for things at Earth II. Because the "Earth n" concept has always been difficult to understand, the charter sets out to define, concretely, what Earth II is and establishes rules and regulations to RP to avoid disorganization and foolishness that would otherwise diminish the quality of roleplaying. Established first with Earth II, the charter has since grown to include additional rules that have come about while roleplaying. It is currently in the process of being rewritten and includes 17 rules, known as "decrees," which outline the various rules for decorum, claiming, and what not at Earth II.

Charter

Preamble
The charter of Earth II will serve as a more concrete and organized establishment of the principles, rules, regulations, conduct, and order of things here at Earth II. Earth II is a unique situation and must be addressed as such.

In Nation-States there sits over 50,000 nations, many of whom claim the same places as others. It is not possible to fully accommodate everyone at every point in time. Concessions must be made. Within Nation-States there is the "NS Universe," encompassing all nations, whether they are on Earth or a galaxy in some quadrant six hundred light years away from Earth. On the "NS Earth" there sits thousands of nations, many claiming the same land. Such a planet has been theoretically imagined to be gigantic in size, comparable to say Jupiter. Therein, one can see the difficulty in role-playing. Imagine flying from New York to London on this Earth. It's in excess of ten thousand miles, if the scale is correct. For realistic purposes, it doesn't suite modern tech very well and gives even future tech a run for their money.

With this in mind, how do you scale it down from the indefinite to the definite, to something feasible and easy to understand? The answer is simple, a RL Earth. That was, in essence, Earth I. Earth II was a following of such for those who had no claims in Earth I. Suddenly, things were realistic and modern tech was fully possible, future tech being beyond possible. In addition, when one begins a war, for instance, in NS Earth, it is likely that such can turn into a two hundred nation battle royale, second to impossible to follow, let alone participate in, thanks to the size. By limiting the playing field to a realistically sized Earth with a more realistic number of nations, manageability becomes far easier.

Earth II is meant to serve those who belong to it and to provide a warm and friendly roleplaying environment, regardless of political affiliation. It is meant to be a mirror image of Earth where our fantasies can be carried out accordingly. If you want to torture hundreds of thousands of citizens, go right ahead, but do expect consequences. In essence we're playing "life" on Earth. But alas, anarchy does not reign free here. We do have guidelines, proper conduct, and regulations that must be adhered to. This is a social contract, more or less, and it is only valid if all nations contribute equally to it.

Decree 1: Definition & Membership Types
Earth II is a semi-closed community, defined as such because it is open only to the members within it but new members can join at any time. There are two types of members for Earth II, full and partial and are thus explained. Full members are members who own territory on Earth II and roleplay as a nation on Earth II. Partial members are members who do not own territory on Earth II but participate in roleplays as third party groups, examples of such include pirate groups, individual people, mercenaries, et cetera. However, in order for a person to roleplay on Earth II as a Partial Member he or she must seek permission from a Full Member to base their group in that individual's land.

Decree 2: Multi-Earthism
Earth II was originally created with the idea of giving a home to those who could not get a home on Earth I, the original Earth. In that, members of Earth I were not permitted to be part of Earth II and vice versa. This rule, we believe, has held the strongest. However, over time there have been a number of Earths spring up that have peaked our members' interests. Because we owe allegiance to our creators, we have established some guidelines to the concept of "Multi-Earthism."

First and foremost, Earth II members may not participate on multiple Earths on Jolt Forums with a nation that they use on Earth II. They may; however, use a puppet to participate in any other Earth(s) that they may so desire.

Second, members who participate on Earth II may only interact with members of the Earth II community when they are involved in an Earth II RP. For example, if Nation A and Nation B are part of Earth II and attacking each other, Nation B cannot ask Nation C (not on Earth II) to help them.

Thirdly, other Earths that portray real-life countries, events, scenarios, time frames, et cetera are not subject to this rule and neither are off-site Earths.

This degree was first enacted in posts #139 and #181 and further amended in post #9006.

Decree 3: Claiming
When joining Earth II it is your responsibility to read all of this charter and the claims list. Additionally, please claim respectfully, considerately, and responsibly. You will be asked to roleplay the creation of your nation and please keep in mind that territory you claim may have history to it from the previous claimer. This can and should be an influence in your own claim but this is at your discretion. A claims list and a role-playing list is provided for you to see just what is going on in the world. If you do not check said lists and act in contrary to them it is not the fault of any one but you. In addition, please use the Land-Population Matrix as set fourth in Decree 4 for claiming limits.

Decree 4: Land-Population Matrix
Be considerate when claiming. In order to ensure that "newbie" nations who have just joined Nation-States claim realistic amounts of land and in order to ensure that veteran nations do not claim excessive amounts of land, a Land-Population Matrix has been established. The LPM is straight forward and is dependent on population size. The ultimate ceiling for claiming is 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²). In many cases there is a 50,000 mi² (129,499 km²) give or take limit to allow for slight overages.

http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Supplement/e2-lpm.png

This decree was first enacted with post #199 and subsequently amended with posts #2336, #6370, #16866, and #21013.

Decree 5: Ignore Cannon
The "Ignore Cannon" is a fictional cannon that can do many things depending on the nation using it that allows us to ignore certain actions in a thread, particularly godmodding or wanking. However, the Ignore Cannon should not be used liberally and should only be used when all other resources and options have been expended. An individual who is committing such an action should first be approaching in a mature manner and offered help to correct his or her mistakes. Should an individual continue to make them without regard for correction then it would be a justifiable use for ignoring that individual. Legitimate and properly RPed actions, no matter how much they may annoy you or mess up your story line do not warrant the use of an ignore though.

This decree was first enacted with post #1245.

Decree 6: Maturity and Respect
All participants of Earth II are expected to be cordial and respectful of each other, regardless of their views politically or socially or what not. OOC beliefs may not always be the same as IC beliefs and they should remain separate at all times. If you or another person have a dispute, work it out through telegram, instant messenger, etc. or role-play for it. Do not just the Main Thread to settle your disputes in any manner that is not uncivilized.

Decree 7: Thread Tagging
Because the International Incidents forum moves at varying speeds it can become difficult to find threads. Therefore, we ask that you do two things when creating a thread for Earth II.

First, all threads must include the tag [Earth II] in their titles so that they may be easily identifiable to both Earth II and non-Earth II players. This helps avoid confusion, especially with non-Earth II players and keeps OOC bickering to a minimal.

Lastly, once a thread is made, its link and title must be posted on the Main Thread so that it may be added to the list of active RPs.

Decree 8: Nation Deletion (Inactivity Part I)
If a nation is deleted by Nation-States for any reason including but not limited to discipline or inactivity, their land is placed into a free-for-all bin. Claiming is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Checks are done regularly to see if nations have been removed by Nation-States for any reason to keep land free flowing. Additionally, if a nation exceeds 21 days of inactivity on Nation-States, their respective land will be up for grabs by others through the use of roleplaying only. Consent will not be required for any nation to claim this land at this point. Any nation that returns to Earth II after their nation is deleted or exceeds 21 days are not guaranteed to get their original land back.

Decree 9: Land Transfers
Land transfers are allowed. When they are completed, all parties must affirm the land transfer. Land transfer should not exceed one's category in the Land-Population Matrix but should they do so, that individual will be allowed to trade or give away parts of their land to keep within their respective category.

Decree 10: Jolt Moderators
Because Earth II is an RP on the Jolt Forums, all decisions by the Jolt Moderators are final. Any action that requires moderator involvement in our Main Thread will see immediate and irreversible action taken against the offending nation by the moderators of Earth II.

Decree 11: Alliances
Alliances created outside of Earth II can be carried over into Earth II only if the participants are also part of Earth II. Non-Earth II nations cannot come into Earth II to protect alliance members. Alliances created inside of Earth II have the option of receiving a private forum on the Off-Site Forums. Access is restricted to only alliance members. It is to be noted though that Layarteb, the owner of the Off-Site Forums does have access to these private forums but pledges not to view any forums he does not directly belong to the guarantee only being honesty and trust. If one is uncomfortable with this, InvisionFree (http://www.invisionfree.com) hosts free forums that are very popular with Nation-States members.

Decree 12: Inactivity Part II
Because Earth II remains an active Earth-RP, it is essential that players who want to participate are allowed to do so. Nations that claim land but do not contribute to the RP are seen as dead weight and thus take up land that an aspiring player may want to claim and use. Therefore, a participant has a 60 day window to contribute to the RP. If a nation does not contribute any activity to Earth II inside of 60 days, their land will be claimable without their consent.

This decree was first enacted with post #2336 and amended with post #7177 and #7773.

Decree 13: Vacation
Any participant in Earth II can be asked to be placed on a Vacation Mode if they plan to be inactive with Earth II for 21 or more days. Nations on Vacation Mode are not subject to the inactivity clauses in either Decree 8 or Decree 12. There is no justification needed for Vacation Mode and any participant can take it for any reason they wanted provided that at least one moderator is notified whether via telegram or by posting on the Main Thread. However, if a nation is deleted by Nation-States while on Vacation Mode then its land will be claimable by members.

Decree 14: OOC Debates
Because OOC debates can become quite enflamed and violate the rules of Jolt Forums, all OOC debates of a controversial nature (history, tactics, military hardware, et cetera) must be done at the Off-Site Forums. This ensures nobody is banned by Jolt for a comment they say during said debate. Emotional topics often get good players banned for making a stupid remark.

This decree was first enacted with post #8609.

Decree 15: Claiming Held Land
All claims made against land that is in either Decree 8 or Decree 12 status must be accompanied by an RP within 24 hours. Because claims are first-come, first-serve, an individual making a claim on an RP has the primary claim on it. This claim will be reserved for 24 hours, after which anyone else may become the primary claimant. All claims can be contested and until an RP is concluded, in a contested situation, no land will be applied to any participant's dossier.

This decree was first enacted with post #11213.

Decree 16: Land Boundaries
Upon entering an RP, parties have certain land boundaries and land holdings that become subject to actions within that RP. The practice of trading away said land to avoid the outcome of an RP, to avoid a loss, to avoid destruction, et cetera. shall not be allowed. Whatever land a participant enterers the RP with, they must maintain throughout the course of the RP and it may not be traded away to a third party within the full consent of everyone within the active RP. This includes all land, whether contested or not.

This decree was first enacted with post #14402.

Decree 17: RP Quality Concerns
Concerns of godmodding, wanking, OOC rant-fests, immaturity, and so on and so fourth should be brought to the attention of the Earth II moderators privately. There should be no situation whereby a Jolt Moderator should get called to one of our RPs. In situations whereby this may occur, punishment is solely at the discretion of United States of Brink or Layarteb.

Given the amount of chaotic and emotional reactions that can come from debating military hardware, history, tactics, and any other real-life topics, it is evident that something needs to be done. Therefore, beginning with post #8609, all debating will be done off-site. The concept of using an off-site forum will keep Nation-States moderators from unnecessarily policing our thread when it isn't necessary. In addition, it will ensure that nobody is forum-banned because of something they said in the heat of the moment. There shall be no debating on the main thread that involves any type of possible heated and emotional topic.

Links
Earth II Spreadsheet (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm)
Off-Site Forums (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.net)
Wikistates Entry (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Earth_II)

Active Claims

Total Participating Nations: 13 + 5
Dumbasses Who Make Claims Without Reading the List: 61
If you so choose, you can see a land area break down of your claim or anyone else's for that matter. Just see the Earth II Land & Status Spreadsheet (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm) to get the information.

Blue colored nation names signify that they are within bounds for Decree 12.
Dark Orchid colored nation names signify that they have been inactive for 21 days or more.
Green colored nation names signify that they are in vacation mode and they are subject to Decree 13.
Magenta colored nation names signify that the nation is pending deletion.


Brydog: Alaska, Shadow Moses Island
Council State of Nerotika (Nerotika): Adygea Republic, Bashkortostan Republic, Chelyabinsk Oblast, Chuvashia Republic, Dagestan, Ingushetia Republic, Ivanovo Oblast, Kabardino-Balkar Republic, Karachay-Cherkessia Republic, Khabarovsk Krai, Khantia-Mansia Okrug, Kirov Oblast, Kostroma Oblast, Kurgan Oblast, Moldova, Moscow, Moscow Oblast, Nizhny Novgorod Oblast, North Ossetia-Alania Republic, Novgorod Oblast, Omsk Oblast, Orenburg Oblast, Penza Oblast, Perm Oblast, Permyakia Okrug, Ryazan Oblast, Samara Oblast, Saratov Oblast, Sverdlovsk Oblast, Stavropol Krai, Tambov Oblast, Tatarstan Republic, Tver Oblast, Tyumen Oblast, Udmurtia Republic, Ukraine, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Vladimir Oblast, Yamalia Okrug, Yaroslavl' Oblast
Democratic Commonwealth of America (Tristan Providence): Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana (part), Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Wyoming
Hirgizstan: Arizona, Benin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chagos Archipelago, Cocos Islands, Colorado, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, French Polynesia, Gambia, Greece (Central Macedonia, Crete, East Macedonia and Thrace, North Aegean, South Aegean [part], West Macedonia), Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bassau, Heard Island, Howland Island, Idaho, Ivory Coast, Kenya (part), Kingman Reef, Liberia (part), Libya, New Mexico, Niger, Oregon, Palmyra Atoll, Rwanda, Sao Tome & Principe, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Togo, Uganda, Utah, Washington, Zambia
Layarteb: Alabama, Anguilla, Antigua, Aruba, Ascension Island, Azores, Bahamas, Barbados, Barbuda, Belize, Bermuda, Bonaire, Brazil (Amazonas, Paraíba, Pernambuco, Roraima), British Virgin Islands, Canadian Arctic Archipelago (part), Canary Islands, Cayman Islands, Clipperton Island, Colombia, Connecticut, Costa Rica, Cuba, Curaçao, Delaware, Desertas Islands, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Easter Island, Ecuador, El Salvador, Falklands Islands, Florida, French Guiana, Galapagos Islands, Georgia (US), Greenland, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Hawaii, Honduras, Iceland, Illinois, India (Andaman and Nicobar Islands), Indiana, Ireland (Northern), Ireland (Repubic), Isla Nublar, Jamaica, Johnston Atoll, Kentucky, Labrador, Las Cinco Muertes, Madeira Islands, Maine, Martinique, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mexico (Campeche, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, Tabasco, Yucatán), Michigan, Mississippi, Montserrat, Nauru, Navassa Island, Nevis, New Brunswick, New Caledonia, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Newfoundland, Nicaragua, North Carolina, Nova Scotia, Ohio, Panama, Pennsylvania, Peru, Pitcairn Islands, Prince Edward Island, Puerto Rico, Quebec, Redonda, Revillagigedo Islands, Rhode Island, Saba, Saint Helena, Saint Kitts, Saint Lucia, Saint Martin, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon, Savage Islands, Sint Eustatius, Solomon Islands, South Carolina, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Tennessee, Trinidad and Tobago, Tristan da Cunha, Turks and Caicos, U.S. Virgin Islands, Venezuela, Vermont, Virginia, Wake Island, Washington D.C., West Virginia, Wisconsin
Razril States: Australia (Victoria)
Roman Empire (RomeW): Alberta, Algeria (part), Antarctica (part), Astrakhan Oblast, Australia (Queensland [part]), Bangladesh, Belgorod Oblast, Bhutan, Bismarck Archipelago, Bolivia, Brazil (Acre, Alagoas, Bahia [part], Espírito Santo, Maranhão, Mato Grosso do Sul, Paraná, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Grande do Sul, Rondônia, Santa Catarina, São Paulo, Sergipe), British Columbia, Bulgaria, California, California (Channel Is), Chile, Cook Islands, Corsica, Ellesmere Island (Alert), Florida (Sanibel), Greece (Attica, Central Greece, Epirus, Ionian Islands, Peloponnese, South Aegean [part], Thessaly, West Greece), India (Bihar, Chandigarh, Goa, Meghalaya, West Bengal), Italy, Kalmykia Republic, Kermadec Islands, Kiribati, Koryak Okrug, Louisiana (part), Manitoba, Mauritania, Mexico (Baja California Sur, Baja California, Chihuahua, Coahuila Province, Durango Province, Nayarit Province, Sinaloa Province, Sonora), Nepal, Nevada, Ontario, Rostov Oblast, San Marino, Saskatchewan, Saudi Arabia (Ash Sharqiyah [part]), Texas, Tunisia, Tuvalu, United Arab Emirates (part), Vanuatu, Vatican City, Western Sahara, Yukon
Spizania: Antarctica (part), Austrailia (Cape York Peninsula, Queensland [part], Western Austrailia), Baker Island, Belarus, Brazil (Minas Gerais), Christmas Island, India (Pondicherry, Tamil Nadu), Maldives, Oman, Philippines (Palawan), South Shetland Islands, United Arab Emirates (part), Yemen (Al Jawf, Al Mahrah, Hadramaut, Socotra)
Third Spanish States: Morocco, Portugal, Spain, United Kingdom (part)
United Federation of Eurasia (Ottoman Khaif): Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Cyprus, Egypt, Georgia, India (Jammu and Kashmir), Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Malayasia (part), Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia (Al Bahah, Al Hudud ash Shamaliyah, Al Jawf, Al Madinah, Al Qasim, Ar Riyad, Ash Sharqiyah [part], 'Asir, Ha'il, Jizan, Makkah, Najran, Tabuk), Sinai Penninsula, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkey, Turkemnistan, United Arab Emirates (part), Uzbekistan, Wallis and Futuna, Yemen (Al Hudaydah, Al Mahwit, 'Amran, Dhamar, Hajjah, Ma'rib, Sa'dah, Sanaá)
United States of Brink: Algeria, Angola, Botswana, Comoros, Juan de Nova Island, Kenya (part), Kerguelen Islands, Lesotho, Liechtenstein, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mozambique, Namibia, Nigeria, Reunion Island, Somalia, South Africa, Swaziland, Tanzania, Zimbabwe
Unkerlantum: Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Netherlands


Pending Claims
Please see the Pending Claims tab on the Earth II Land & Status Spreadsheet (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/Earth%20II/Spreadsheet/EarthII_General_Sheet.htm) to check the status and requirements of your claim.


Cotland: Denmark, Faroe Islands**, Finland, Murmansk Oblast, Norway, Shetland Islands**, Sweden
Klievan: Austria*, Slovenia*, Switzerland*
Layarteb: Faroe Islands*, Shetland Islands**
Nerotika: Agin-Buryat Okrug, Altai Krai, Altai Republic, Argentina (Buenos Aires [Capital], Buenos Aires, Catamarca, Chaco, Chubut, Córdoba, Formosa, Jujuy, La Pampa, La Rioja, Mendoza, Neuquén, Río Negro, Salta, San Juan, San Luis, Santa Cruz, Santa Fe, Santiago del Estero, Tierra del Fuego, Tucumán), Berkner Island, Brazil (Bahia [part]), Buryat Republic, Chita Oblast, Chukotka Okrug, Evenkia Okrug, Irkutsk Oblast, Jarvis Island, Kamchatka Oblast, Kemerovo Oblast, Khakassia Republic, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Kurile Islands, Leningrad Oblast, Mauritius, Mayotte, McDonald Islands, Mexico (Aguascalientes, Colima [part], Diatrito Federale, Guanajato, Guerrero, Hidalgo, Jalisco, México, Michoacán, Morelos, Nuevo León, Oaxaca, Puebla, Querétaro, San Luis Potoaí, Tamaulipas, Tlaxacale, Veracruz, Zacatecas), Micronesia, Midway Islands, New Siberian Islands, Niue, Norfolk Island, Novaya Zemlya, Primorsky Krai, Sakha Republic, Sakhalin Oblast (minus Kuriles), Scott Island, Severnaya Zemlya, South Orkney Island, Taymyria Okrug, Thurston Island, Tomsk Oblast, Tuva Republic, Ust-Orda Buryatia, Vologda Oblast
Rhodesian States: Australia (Northern Territory, South Australia)
RomeW: Arkhangelsk Oblast, Franz Josef Land, Karelia Republic, Komi Republic
Saint Bryce: Albania, Austria*, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Kaliningrad Oblast, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Poland, Pskov Oblast, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia*, Switzerland*
Tristan Providence: Japan
Ulanpataar: India (Daman and Diu, Gujarat, Karnataka, Kerala, Lakshadweep, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra), Yemen (Abyan, Lahij, Shabwah, Ta'izz)


* = contestation claim #1 (Saint Bryce & Klievan)
** = contesation claim #2 (Layarteb & Cotland)

Maps

http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/key.png


Africa (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/africa.png)
Antarctica (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/antarctica.png)
Argentina (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/argentina.png)
Asia (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/asia.png)
Asia (Eastern Detail) (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/asia-east.png)
Australia (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/australia.png)
Brazil (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/brazil.png)
Canada & the United States (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/canada-us.png)
Central America (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/centralamerica.png)
Europe (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/europe.png)
Greece (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/greece.png)
India (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/india.png)
Mexico (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/mexico.png)
Pacific Ocean (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/pacificocean.png)
Pacific Ocean (Real-Life) (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/PacificOcean-Countries.gif)
Russia (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/russia.png)
Russia (Real-Life) (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/Russia-Regions.gif)
Saudi Arabia (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/saudiarabia.png)
South America (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/southamerica.png)
Yemen (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Maps/yemen.png)


Supplemental Maps

World Map (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Supplement/E2-WorldMap.png)
International Champion's League Region Map (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Earth2/Supplement/E2-WorldMap-ICLRM.png)

Earth II RPs

If you do not put EARTH II in your thread topic then it makes it very difficult for Earth II participants to find the threads and participate. That is why I ask that it listed. Declaration helps as well so that I can update this post right here. All posts below are listed categorically and alphabetically. If something contains an asterisk please see the notes at the very bottom. Additionally, it is your responsibility to check this.

Earth II Thread Statistics

Completed Threads: 828 [includes 41 non-E2 only, info threads]
Current Active Threads: 10


Legend

Green means that the topic is brand spanking new.
Red means that the topic has more than 75 posts.


IC Threads

A New Age (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=592551)
A Republic Arising (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=590862)
Dissolution, Retribution, and Confusion IC (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=584017)
Dissolution, Retribution, and Confusion OOC (Off-Site) (http://www.forsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22)
Infernal [Not E2 Only] (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=540788)
Land of Sin (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=517901)
Only in Time Can Pain Fade... [Redux] (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=583590)
Promulgation of a Nation (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=588692)
Ride the Lightning [Not E2 Only] (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=448866)
The Treblinka Affair [Not E2 Only] (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=550955)


Country Information

Cotland Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=519771)
Hirgizstan Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=520150)
Layarteb Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=501724)
Nerotika Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=519765)
Rome History (http://www.geocities.com/vicendum/vicendumspotlightrome.html)
Roman Free Press (Updates From Around The Roman World) (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=458861)
Third Spanish States Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=583045)
United States of Brink Factbook (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=513226)


Static Threads

Bank of Saint Lazare (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=501581)
Bjornoyan International Stock Exchange (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=456327)
Doctrine of Sovereignty (http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=460089)
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.:. Saved for Later .:.

I would like to claim Jmurh's territories as he hasn't been active for 50+ days.

I would also like to claim Venezeula or Columbia (the one blank country in South America, the northern part of it).


This would mean I'd be able to RP much easier with Earth II people.

Well done


And for official reasons, I would like to claim Panama as my gift for this wonderful idea. :)

Yoboland no longer exists.

I would like to claim Jmurh's territories as he hasn't been active for 50+ days.

I would also like to claim Venezeula or Columbia (the one blank country in South America, the northern part of it).


This would mean I'd be able to RP much easier with Earth II people.

Okay let me just address these separately.

Columbia: Colodia has it.
Venezuela: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358480
Jmurh: Yes he has been inactive for some 53 days now. I am curious though do you have a personal relationship with him at all. I don't see a problem with this though.

Wait a sec Layarteb, I already have Colombia.

Well done


And for official reasons, I would like to claim Panama as my gift for this wonderful idea. :)

Yoboland no longer exists.

You got it.

Wait a sec Layarteb, I already have Colombia.

Amended.

And a final thought, if I should get the DEAT, send all my claims to The Imperial Military, my puppet.

Just in case, ya never know...

And a final thought, if I should get the DEAT, send all my claims to The Imperial Military, my puppet.

Just in case, ya never know...

I'll try to remember that.

No need to remember, as long as it stays here in the thread for the months to come, it's good.

No need to remember, as long as it stays here in the thread for the months to come, it's good.

Well in case you do get the DEAT just post as Imperial and reference it and I'll get you hooked up.

I'd like to put Austria and Slovakia back in the unclaimed bin - someone did claim it off me but unfortunately the TG has gone the way of the dodo so I can't remember who it was... Best I can do is put it back so they can claim it again.

I was going to use them for an RP but then I had a rethink of my nation's history and didn't bother.

Someone had to take Malaysia V_V

I'd like to put Austria and Slovakia back in the unclaimed bin - someone did claim it off me but unfortunately the TG has gone the way of the dodo so I can't remember who it was... Best I can do is put it back so they can claim it again.

I was going to use them for an RP but then I had a rethink of my nation's history and didn't bother.

You got it.

Hmm I think I am going to do the maps as well.

I'd like to add the Western half of Madagascar. The Northern third of Etiriea is also now owned by another nation. (Forgot the name of the nation I sold it to.) I claimed I started out with Madagascar, but it never got registered in the claims thread.

I'd like to add the Western half of Madagascar. The Northern third of Etiriea is also now owned by another nation. (Forgot the name of the nation I sold it to.) I claimed I started out with Madagascar, but it never got registered in the claims thread.

Well would you like Madagascar?

I'd like to claim Gibraltar. If you need a back-up thread, I have that somewhere.

I'd like to claim Gibraltar. If you need a back-up thread, I have that somewhere.

Gibralter is part of RL UK so Kriegorgrad has it.

If it's not too much trouble I'd like to claim French Polynesia for DPUO (me).

How would that policy work? For instance, Granzi has claims to New Caledonia and Reunion, both of which are RL territories of France.

If it's not too much trouble I'd like to claim French Polynesia for DPUO (me).

Claimed by Morathania.

Already the same problems with the last one. Nobody reads the claims list!

How would that policy work? For instance, Granzi has claims to New Caledonia and Reunion, both of which are RL territories of France.

You can claim the parts BUT he claimed the whole UK, which to date isn't as vast as it has been in history.

Someone had to take Malaysia V_V
I'd be willing to grant you semi-control of Malaysia.

I don't know Jmurh, but I would like to have some territory in North or South America so that I could RP with the Earth II community. I've been doing RP in Earth V, and when that particular RP is concluded, I could start some RP'ing in Earth II.

I would like to broaden the scope and possible RP's I can participate in.

In addition, I would like to have the parts of Anarctica that hasn't been claimed yet. Also I'd like to inquiry into claiming Russia (or whatever section / area of Russia that would be reasonable).

Any claim would work for me as long as I have some sort of territory in Earth II.

Claimed by Morathania.

Already the same problems with the last one. Nobody reads the claims list!
Make it bigger...

As in Size 25

I don't know Jmurh, but I would like to have some territory in North or South America so that I could RP with the Earth II community. I've been doing RP in Earth V, and when that particular RP is concluded, I could start some RP'ing in Earth II.

I would like to broaden the scope and possible RP's I can participate in.

In addition, I would like to have Russia and / or the parts of Anarctica that hasn't been claimed yet. Any claim would work for me as long as I have some sort of territory in Earth II.

I will grant you Jmurh's territory given his 53 day absence.

I will grant you Jmurh's territory given his 53 day absence.

Thank you.

Would claiming the unclaimed parts of Anarctica be acceptable as well?

Thank you.

Would claiming the unclaimed parts of Anarctica be acceptable as well?

Yes.

We would like the following:

Delaware (Taken earlier in a war thread)
Zaire (Democratic Republic of Congo, Belgian Congo)
Mauritania.

In lieu of Gibraltar, Granzi would like to claim Morocco.

I am putting a moritorium on claims until I refinish the maps but the previous two posts will be taken into consideration.

OOC:

I've been wondering whatever happened to Communist Louisana? I thought he was in Earth II as an ally / friend of Communist Mississippi / Decisive Action.

We would like the following:

Delaware (Taken earlier in a war thread)
Zaire (Democratic Republic of Congo, Belgian Congo)
Mauritania.

Got the last two but what is the deal with NJC? If he's gone we'll split Delaware like agreed.

In lieu of Gibraltar, Granzi would like to claim Morocco.

Got it.

New Maps!!!

I've just CTRL+4'd and I don't believe the Czech Republic as been taken. Can I claim that, along with Austria if possible?

I've just CTRL+4'd and I don't believe the Czech Republic as been taken. Can I claim that, along with Austria if possible?

Yes you may.

The First Revitalization RP

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373430

Unrest in Layartebian Venezuela. Surrounding South American nations might want to take note.

The Lightning Star no longer has territories in Pakistan, I took them from him about three months ago.

The Lightning Star no longer has territories in Pakistan, I took them from him about three months ago.

Noted.

OOC: I'm not so sure how this works, or if nations can overlap. Here's my claim. If there's a problem, I dunno if there's anywhere else I'd like to claim. Anyway...

North Germania: Austria-Hungary, Germany, Poland, Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark.

OOC: I'm not so sure how this works, or if nations can overlap. Here's my claim. If there's a problem, I dunno if there's anywhere else I'd like to claim. Anyway...

North Germania: Austria-Hungary, Germany, Poland, Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark.
Nations cannot overlap UNLESS you have made special agreements with nations that already lay claim to those RL Nation claims.

In addition, your claims are extremely huge. If you were to claim a nation as huge as France, by ITSELF, you would need a thread.

Now, claims that big should be relativly ignored. I'm just explaining this for God-knows-what.

Thanks for doing this Layarteb!

I claimed a small part of western Russia (Kola Peninsula, Leningrad oblast and Republic of Karelia) in the Earth-II thread, see post http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6888612&postcount=835 and http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6914460&postcount=851

A map of my Russian claim is found here:
http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/index.php?action=map&mv=thenew
and here:
http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/claim.gif

Thanks!

Well, Colodia, a nation with a pop. of over 2.3 billion, I need a lot of land. It makes sense. The area I claimed is smaller than China, which has a population of slightly over 1 billion.

I would say it's pretty reasonable.

But that's my claim. I'll let Layarteb decide, since it's his thread.

Thanks.

Bump

Got the last two but what is the deal with NJC? If he's gone we'll split Delaware like agreed.

NJC, though he is active on NS, is never on the forums- I seized Delaware from him in an invasion RP- some tried to stop me, but they backed down after I gave them naval bases in Wilmington

OOC: If noone has already, I'd like to add "France" to my claims, I'm building a small western Europe empire!

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see the claim.

I searched through and it seemed that noone had Romania, could I please have Romania? Thanks.

I have Congo Burundi, Sierra Leone, and the Madeira Islands. These are all relatively small claims, and I was the first to claim these in Earth II. I used the search function and all. Also have a small thread to my claim, I stopped posting after the 5th or 6th post, I didn't have time to finish it.

Also, could I trouble you for Malta?

I would like to know what happened to my claim in Anarctica. I laid claim to the rest of the white unclaimed land in Anarctica, as I would like some sort of land that borders the ocean / water.

Thereby, I claim northern Anarctica and the western portion as well.

Also, could I trouble you for Malta?
OOC: Sevaris, I'd like Malta as well. Would you like to do an RP for it?

Well, Colodia, a nation with a pop. of over 2.3 billion, I need a lot of land. It makes sense. The area I claimed is smaller than China, which has a population of slightly over 1 billion.

I would say it's pretty reasonable.

But that's my claim. I'll let Layarteb decide, since it's his thread.

Thanks.
I still say it's highly unreasonable for all those who RP'ed for their claims to smaller nations (such as Yemen), but it is Layarteb's call.

Excellent maps Layarteb.

Well, I might have to RP for what I want then. Depending on what Layarteb says.

Ummm... I have a RPed claim to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, as shown here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373088

Earlier than Sevaris by quite a few days.

Currently still in the midst of the war, but since I've essentially seized power and taken the capital, I think I should get the DRC. Sevaris can retain his ownership of the Congo.

LISTEN UP

I HAVE UPDATED THE CLAIMS AND SEE BELOW SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE. SEVARIS PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION AND READ THROUGH ALL OF THE POSTS AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE ACTUALLY. ADDITIONALLY, I ADDED A MAP OF RUSSIA SO THAT YOU CAN DIVY UP THE REGIONS (OBLASTS) AND THIS AND THAT INDIVIDUALLY AND SO ON AND SO FOURTH.
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Thanks for doing this Layarteb!

I claimed a small part of western Russia (Kola Peninsula, Leningrad oblast and Republic of Karelia) in the Earth-II thread, see post http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6888612&postcount=835 and http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6914460&postcount=851

A map of my Russian claim is found here:
http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/index.php?action=map&mv=thenew
and here:
http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/claim.gif

Thanks!

Accepted
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OOC: I'm not so sure how this works, or if nations can overlap. Here's my claim. If there's a problem, I dunno if there's anywhere else I'd like to claim. Anyway...

North Germania: Austria-Hungary, Germany, Poland, Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark.

Sorry buddy but it's all claimed I can't allow it.
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NJC, though he is active on NS, is never on the forums- I seized Delaware from him in an invasion RP- some tried to stop me, but they backed down after I gave them naval bases in Wilmington

You continued the RP after it died (though fast) and didn't tell me?

so, could I trouble you for Malta?

Accepted
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OOC: If noone has already, I'd like to add "France" to my claims, I'm building a small western Europe empire!

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see the claim.

I searched through and it seemed that noone had Romania, could I please have Romania? Thanks.

Romania is taken but by Baretta instead.
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I have Congo Burundi, Sierra Leone, and the Madeira Islands. These are all relatively small claims, and I was the first to claim these in Earth II. I used the search function and all. Also have a small thread to my claim, I stopped posting after the 5th or 6th post, I didn't have time to finish it.

Yreffej didn't include them so I am sorry but the list was just copied as it was previously and is continuing from that list and unfortunately your claim was not accepted. Burundi and Madeira Islands are not claimed if you want those (BTW where are the Madeira Islands).
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I would like to know what happened to my claim in Anarctica. I laid claim to the rest of the white unclaimed land in Anarctica, as I would like some sort of land that borders the ocean / water.

Thereby, I claim northern Anarctica and the western portion as well.

That is an awful lot of land and I want to leave the rest of Antarctia open for further colonization of other countries. If you want you can have either the north or the west but not both.
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Ummm... I have a RPed claim to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, as shown here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373088

Earlier than Sevaris by quite a few days.

Currently still in the midst of the war, but since I've essentially seized power and taken the capital, I think I should get the DRC. Sevaris can retain his ownership of the Congo.

By golly you are right. Well I am going to rescind his claim and give it to you simply because you did it earlier but I must say that in the future please place [Earth II] in the title of your post so that it is easier to understand as Earth II. Sevaris you might want to work it out with Tyrandis about this but for now it's his.

Layatreb, I will be happy with the northern half of Anarctica.

I'm in need of some sort of coastal country or state so I can have a navy in Earth II. So would it be possible if I could get one coastal country in Africa or something? Or would that be too much to ask?

I'd hate to be landlocked in Earth II, as I love playing around with the sea and navy stuff.

Please let me know what we can work out. :)

This is a TG I received from his awhile ago.

Yerffej
Received: 77 days ago Sure, they're yours. It may be a while before the list is updated, but if anyone gives you heck, TG me. Good luck,
Jeff.


But if you still deny me would I have to continue my RP thread, including the conquerring of the Madeira Islands, and Sierra Leone? Or could I just claim them?

Madeira Island is a small Island near the Canary Islands. So when you think of Madeira Island location wise, just think of the Canary Islands.

Layarteb, I have a request to make. I ask, that if two of more nations claim the same territory at roughly the same time, and neither has a back-up RP, that some sort of role play must be done before a legitimate claim could be recognized. This would cut down on the disputes and clarify who actually owns the land.

Layatreb, I will be happy with the northern half of Anarctica.

I'm in need of some sort of coastal country or state so I can have a navy in Earth II. So would it be possible if I could get one coastal country in Africa or something? Or would that be too much to ask?

I'd hate to be landlocked in Earth II, as I love playing around with the sea and navy stuff.

Please let me know what we can work out. :)

Well there isn't much left but with that massive land in Antarctica I'd say that one of the smaller ones would be fine maybe Senegal, which is on the border with Mauritania, Mali, Guinea Bassau, and Guinea.
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This is a TG I received from his awhile ago.

Yerffej
Received: 77 days ago Sure, they're yours. It may be a while before the list is updated, but if anyone gives you heck, TG me. Good luck,
Jeff.


But if you still deny me would I have to continue my RP thread, including the conquerring of the Madeira Islands, and Sierra Leone? Or could I just claim them?

Madeira Island is a small Island near the Canary Islands. So when you think of Madeira Island location wise, just think of the Canary Islands.

Well in that case contact Tyrandis and Brydog about Zaire and Sierra Leone, respectively. I am at a loss of what to do honestly. Since he never updated and I cannot 100% verify that you did get that TG (not that I am calling you a liar) I will have to ask you to settle it with them.
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Layarteb, I have a request to make. I ask, that if two of more nations claim the same territory at roughly the same time, and neither has a back-up RP, that some sort of role play must be done before a legitimate claim could be recognized. This would cut down on the disputes and clarify who actually owns the land.

I like that idea. What do you think Colodia?
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Layatreb,

This will be my very last claims from the Claim Bin. Any additional claims I'll do in Earth II will be through warfare or RP means.

Here goes. I'll be happy with either claim (whichever would work best)

1. Nigeria.

OR

2. Senegal + The Gambia + western half of Guinea + Guinea Bissau

Either #1 or #2 would suit my need for a coastal area perfectly. I'll be happy to have either one of these claims, and afterwards, I won't be claiming any more land (asking for empty land) as I'll have everything I need in Earth II.

Hope this will be acceptable.

Layatreb,

This will be my very last claims from the Claim Bin. Any additional claims I'll do in Earth II will be through warfare or RP means.

Here goes. I'll be happy with either claim (whichever would work best)

1. Nigeria.

OR

2. Senegal + The Gambia + western half of Guinea + Guinea Bissau

Either #1 or #2 would suit my need for a coastal area perfectly. I'll be happy to have either one of these claims, and afterwards, I won't be claiming any more land (asking for empty land) as I'll have everything I need in Earth II.

Hope this will be acceptable.

2. Senegal + The Gambia + western half of Guinea + Guinea Bissau

2. Senegal + The Gambia + western half of Guinea + Guinea Bissau

Thanks, Layatreb. This would do just perfectly. In addition, I very much appreciate it!

Now I can build a navy and play around with it in Earth II. :)

Thanks, Layatreb. This would do just perfectly. In addition, I very much appreciate it!

Now I can build a navy and play around with it in Earth II. :)

RG just keep in mind that you have an ass amount of land so.

RG just keep in mind that you have an ass amount of land so.

No prob. I will put the land to good use, and I won't be claiming anything further in Earth II, either from claim bin, or warfare for at least a few more RL months until my nation hits 2 billion or more.

Sounds fair?

I claim the island of Svalbard, in the arctic circle. Screw you guys.

I claim the island of Svalbard, in the arctic circle. Screw you guys.

Entered.

And I'm claiming Corsica.

And I'm claiming Corsica.

RG.

[snip]
I like that idea. What do you think Colodia?
OOC: Cool. I'll contact Sevaris for an RP on Malta.

LISTEN UP

ADDITIONALLY, I ADDED A MAP OF RUSSIA SO THAT YOU CAN DIVY UP THE REGIONS (OBLASTS) AND THIS AND THAT INDIVIDUALLY AND SO ON AND SO FOURTH.
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Accepted


Thank you Layarteb. This opens up for great RP's in Russia. Good idea!

No problem. It is what I was thinking actually.

Trinidad and Tobago, Easter Islands and Alaska.......

Trinidad and Tobago, Easter Islands and Alaska.......

Alaska is Five Civilized Nations. But the other two are unclaimed.

Okay, sorry the Ctrl F command did'nt see it....

Okay, sorry the Ctrl F command did'nt see it....

Updated

Layarteb, I'd like to claim the Indian Ocean Islands. I'll do an invasion RP for it, just reserve it here please. Also, i believe i had a slice of antarctica.

I own:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7014013&postcount=6

Mississippi, Mississippian Egypt, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, Fabus Island, Western Sahara, Angola, Namibia, South Africa, and Botswana.

I have Rped all of these... I no longer own Libya though, so edit that there, please.

I'd like to lay a claim on Southern Saudi, please. I can also confirm DA's claims.

Layarteb, I'd like to claim the Indian Ocean Islands. I'll do an invasion RP for it, just reserve it here please. Also, i believe i had a slice of antarctica.

What islands are those? I'll keep it in mind. Also what slice of Ant. do you want? Any claims not added by the org. author were not added.
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I own:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost....013&postcount=6

Mississippi, Mississippian Egypt, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, Fabus Island, Western Sahara, Angola, Namibia, South Africa, and Botswana.

I have Rped all of these... I no longer own Libya though, so edit that there, please.

You are previously Communist Mississippi no? If so I will certainly adjust what I can. I'll look at it later when I get back from work.
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I'd like to lay a claim on Southern Saudi, please. I can also confirm DA's claims.

Noted
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Ladies and gentlemen, I must leave for work I will return tonight and update what is in this post and further...

I'd like to add the Northern Mariana Islands to my claims. Thank you.

I like that idea. What do you think Colodia?
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It sounds like a good idea. Oddly enough, I thought up the idea as I watched Layarteb make the huge judgement post in Page 4.

And Layarteb, classic job on Russia. Althought the portions might be a bit small, no? Ehh, your choice....but it may be easier for the next sentence below:

In addition, it may be a bit easier on everyone if each individual piece of Russian territory is marked with a number. That way, we don't have poor people scrambling around claiming "The chunk of land right next to [Insert Nation Name Here] but to the left of the one that looks like Uncle Sam..."

We'll just have poor people going "I want numbers 34, 53, and 21 on the double!"

And guys, Layarteb is as human as all of us. I didn't want to make the Earth II topic myself because of the huge responsibility and the massive amount of people and disputes you must solve as the guy to heads all this.

But please, make it easier on Layarteb and everyone else...simple things that will cut down confusion and headaches.

1. Don't claim lands that have already been claimed.
This is a huge problem. There is a GIANT list back there and it's sitting there collecting dust while people on page 23987239 want to claim Isreal. Seriously, before you claim ANYTHING, press Ctrl+F on the first page and type in the land you wish to claim. If a nation has not claimed it yet, then you may claim it.

2. Don't be babies
I'm not sure if it's been done yet, but c'mon...we're all mature people here on NS. If you and another have a dispute over who gets to claim a particular piece of land, RP for it. And I mean RP it over in another thread, NOT HERE!

3. Colodia gets TG's as well
Surprise, surprise! Colodia can ALSO answer questions or comments that you otherwise would've TG'd Layarteb. I'm not sure how many TG's he/she gets, but I can assume that they add up to the amount of trouble.

4. Make reasonable claims
No, seriously. No names, but a claim of Germany, France, and Denmark at once....WITHOUT an RP link is a big no. I'm not saying we'll reject you if you do not provide an RP. I'm just saying that if your claim meets this criteria:
- Will add to a huge list of claims you've made
- Is a popular nation (Germany, France, Isreal, Iraq)
- Is a large nation (Russia, China, Brazil)

then you MUST provide an RP link proving that you have the ability to hold said nation.
Now, if the claim is small and reasonable, then by all means...claim it.


And that's all I can think of right now. I'm a busy guy too, so make it easier for everyone. It's not like you, me, and Layarteb can sit down for 20 minutes and discuss your problem.

ANNOUNCEMENT

Colodia is the sort of XO of this thread. He can act in the same capacity as I can just not edit the posts. This is nothing major. So if he speaks, take it that it is just as good as if I were to speak and such. Don't give him any grief or I'm going to eject you from Earth II and send you to Mars or something. Be respectful to him and I and all the others and such will prevail.

Now I would like to address the following:

Hogsweat: Your Antarctica claim is already made so no problem. I added Southern Saudi to your claim. What Indian Ocean islands do you want so that I can add them? I need specifics.

Decisive Action: I changed over your CM territories and ditched out Libya. However this is something of note. Both Namibia and Botswana were listed in the previous thread as Dancing Moose and The Lightning Star, respectively. I saw you RP'd it so I am not sure as to the sequence of events, if they claimed after or what not but you might want to talk to either of them about it through IM or TG or e-mail.

Granzi: The Northern Mariana's are yours.

Colodia: Well said and yes I will add a RL Russia map for easier chosing. I didn't think of that so good call. Additionally I am putting up what you said in the last post about the 4 rules and such in the main post. You are the XO of the thread so.

Decisive Action: I changed over your CM territories and ditched out Libya. However this is something of note. Both Namibia and Botswana were listed in the previous thread as Dancing Moose and The Lightning Star, respectively. I saw you RP'd it so I am not sure as to the sequence of events, if they claimed after or what not but you might want to talk to either of them about it through IM or TG or e-mail.




Seryown took Botswana from whoever had it, and then I took it from Seryown... As for Namibia, whoever had it, well nobody made mention of owning it when I snatched it up. As for South Africa, well Fascist Afrikanerdom was deleted for inactivity, so his land was up for grabs. As for Angola, I snatched that from Seryown after smashing him.

Seryown took Botswana from whoever had it, and then I took it from Seryown... As for Namibia, whoever had it, well nobody made mention of owning it when I snatched it up. As for South Africa, well Fascist Afrikanerdom was deleted for inactivity, so his land was up for grabs. As for Angola, I snatched that from Seryown after smashing him.

Alright after looking I have come to these conclusions.

South Africa: All yours given his deletion.
Namibia: Dancing Moose claimed it on 7.26 and you claimed it on 11.11. He definitely had it long before and though he may/may not have raised holy hell when you claimed to have it this is a matter for the two of you to discuss.
Botswana: Yes I looked at the thread and you are correct, it is yours.
Angola: Unclaimed so it's yours.

I am going to bed for the night so I'll be back tomorrow after work, probably some 22 hours from now.

:: Bump ::

Declaration of RP Continuation

Sevaris Annexes Delaware (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372174)

I hereby claim Lesotho. Will be making the thread shortly.

I hereby claim Lesotho. Will be making the thread shortly.

Very well. Keep in mind you are getting quite large and while you do RP them well I know that there will be some of those out there who cry unfairness. Just fair warning. Let me know when you thread it.

Very well. Keep in mind you are getting quite large and while you do RP them well I know that there will be some of those out there who cry unfairness. Just fair warning. Let me know when you thread it.

I will be handing back 'Northwest Territories' and 'Nunavut' because A. May area is too big and B. I never actually claimed them, they were accidently given to me (although I did claim the rest of my land).

The official reason for this is that they were no longer economically viable to hold and so the populace was given right of rule.

I will be handing back 'Northwest Territories' and 'Nunavut' because A. May area is too big and B. I never actually claimed them, they were accidently given to me (although I did claim the rest of my land).

The official reason for this is that they were no longer economically viable to hold and so the populace was given right of rule.

Noted.

NT and Nunavut (http://www.athropolis.com/graphics/nunavut-game-2.gif) are now available. I'll update the map when I get home after work tonight.

I still own Japan and the Falklands... although I may sell Japan.

I still own Japan and the Falklands... although I may sell Japan.

According to the list, yes you do have both of them and while I would love to purchase Japan, I just have too many troubles with Venezuela right now and its logistically impossible for me to have Japan. :: damn, wishes I had a Pacfic coast ::

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374076

I still own Japan and the Falklands... although I may sell Japan.

If you were to sell Japan, what would you ask for it?

Yerffej was deleted for inactivity (I think so, no matches are coming up for his name)

Thus I'd like to claim South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia... I know this is a nice chunk of land, but it's all part of my grand plan... You'll be pleasantly surprised by the RPs... I'll post the start of the threads to take those lands soon...

Can i have Tunisia and Libya Please.

Oh, and Generic Empire Conquered Mozambique from me AGES ago, so give that to him.

Thanks :D

Can i have Tunisia and Libya Please.

Oh, and Generic Empire Conquered Mozambique from me AGES ago, so give that to him.

Thanks :D


Ooc- There are roughly 200,000 Mississippian whites living in Libya, they are left over colonists from the days when it was "Mississippian Libya" befored it gained "independence" by the marxist "liberators"... Anyway, I can guarantee you, that if the Mississippian whites are in any way harmed, harassed, our their racial purity threatened, we won't hesitate to either attempt to buy Libya from you, or take it from you... We prefer to negotiate... But if you treat them well, it won't come to that, hopefully.

Well in that case contact Tyrandis and Brydog about Zaire and Sierra Leone, respectively. I am at a loss of what to do honestly. Since he never updated and I cannot 100% verify that you did get that TG (not that I am calling you a liar) I will have to ask you to settle it with them.


Tyrandis controls Congo, and some other nation. Congo Burundi is a seperate nation from Congo, and Sierra Leone is on the coast of Africa.

Easily understandable about the TG. But I still aren't sure why I should contact him if the nation isn't his.

Also note that these claims are rather small, The Madeira Islands are a small island cluster with 1 main island, Burundi is a small African nation about the size of Rwanda, and Sierra Leone is a more meduim size nation, small if you compare it to most other African nations.

Yerffej was deleted for inactivity (I think so, no matches are coming up for his name)

Thus I'd like to claim South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia... I know this is a nice chunk of land, but it's all part of my grand plan... You'll be pleasantly surprised by the RPs... I'll post the start of the threads to take those lands soon...
Georgia: Yours
South Carolona: Denied. Your not the only one that RP's...
North Carolina: Denied. See above, plus you must WORK to be my neighbor of the South..:P...sorry but these are popular territories (given that they are American states).

Actually, here's your chance DA. You and me, RP for North Carolina. I'll link you to the topic.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7491013#post7491013

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374153

Maps Updated
Claims Updated

Also, could I claim the Buryatia Division of Russia and the Division to the right of it, which strangely enough isn't named? Fair considering about half of Andrehervian Russia is wasteland.

I do believe that I shall grant ye the land.

May I add Cuba and Palau to my claims please.

May I add Cuba and Palau to my claims please.

Cuba is taken by Binthor. Palau is yours though.

:: Bump ::

Colodia has sent troops into North Carolina, which I do not contest his claim to. But currently, only DA has troops in South Carolina, thus I restate my claim to it.



Another matter:


Dancing Moose has not replied to my TGs, this might be why:

Last Activity: 05-10-2004 4:07 PM


He hasn't been active since early October, I think therefore, since it is apparent he no longer RPs, and has made no mention explaining his prolonged absence, I should get Namibia recognized as mine.

Thank you.

DA, when Hitler tried to rule the world, he worked for it. Maybe you want to start working toward EARNING more nations than claiming them. You have enough claims to RP without any hassle of where your nation is based in Earth II.

I'm with Colodia on this. You've got too much as it is.

:: Bump ::

Can i have Tasmania and the Antarctic Peninsula please?

Seeing how no one has claimed them.

South Carolina would be MINE, DA. Thanks.

But if you want to fight for it...

Updated.

Updated.

Oh goody! All we need now are maps :D

The Federation of Aligned Planets would like to lay claim to the

1) Line Islands

2) Phoenix Islands

3) Marshall Islands

These small island chains are all in the South Pacific, off the East Coast of Australasia

Expansionist Policies (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375133)

Please see above link for RP of claim (only just started)

Oh goody! All we need now are maps :D

Do you know how to read? The maps are in the third post of the thread!!!

Do you know how to read? The maps are in the third post of the thread!!!

I know, but i posted that thread before you updated them.

I shoulda said "All we need now is to update the maps."

Silly me.

The maps were updated at the time of the post as always.

The maps were updated at the time of the post as always.

Hmmm...

I see! Heh heh, my browser wasnt showing the updated version!

Bad browser, bad bad!

*chases after browser with a shotgun and a pogo stick.*

Greetings, all.

I noted Jovial Jumping Jax has been deleted, so I'd like to make a claim on Texas and Louisiana.

Here's the RP....

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7521058


If I am getting too large, I am willing to part with my African possessions if necessary in exchange for these two states. I've noticed that DA is getting pretty big himself. I'd like to TG you with details, Layatreb.

If I acquire Texas and Louisana, it would give me much needed coastal access in the "West".

Messa Claims Niger! Mmmmyes!!! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7522240#post7522240)

DA, when Hitler tried to rule the world, he worked for it. Maybe you want to start working toward EARNING more nations than claiming them. You have enough claims to RP without any hassle of where your nation is based in Earth II.


Ok, good point, I'll fight you in South Carolina for who controls it, and if I lose, you get it, if I win, I'll take it and then push into North Carolina to teach you a lesson.

But I'm willing to abandon my claims to South Carolina and North Carolina if I get my claim to Namibia recognized, and then I pledge to claim no more.


Basically I want my claims to be

Mississippi, Fabus Island, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, Western Sahara, Mississippian Egypt, South Africa, Lesotho, Namibia, Botswana, and Angola.



Colodia, get on msn and we'll talk about the Carolinas and a possile war there.

A new thread:

Closing the borders of Kopparbergs [Earth II]:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7524097#post7524097

Greetings, all.

I noted Jovial Jumping Jax has been deleted, so I'd like to make a claim on Texas and Louisiana.

Here's the RP....

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7521058


If I am getting too large, I am willing to part with my African possessions if necessary in exchange for these two states. I've noticed that DA is getting pretty big himself. I'd like to TG you with details, Layatreb.

If I acquire Texas and Louisana, it would give me much needed coastal access in the "West".

I'd like to know whether this new RP by me will be recongized or not by Layatreb and Colodia. I'd really like to know so I can continue the RP or if I should drop it.

Please post here or TG me with confirmation or denial of my last claim (for a long while, that is).

This is a picture reference to my claims:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/ARSB.jpg



All of these claims have been RP'ed, however, only a few of the original threads still survive today (the turn-over of Georgia and portions of Russia to the ARSB, and the turn-over of Kazakhstan to the ARSB).

CLAIMS:

Southern portion of Russia (A straight line from Kazakh border to Ukraine border, thirty kilometres above Volgograd, and down. (Acquired in deal with USSCR)

Ukrainian Peninsula (the small peninsula jutting from Ukraine)

Georgia (Acquired in deal with USSCR)

Armenia (Military Invasion and Annexation)

Azerbaijan (Military Invasion and Annexation)

North-East Quarter of Turkey (Military Invasion and Annexation)

Kazakhstan (acquired in deal with USSCR)


----
Basically we occupy the Caucusus region of SW Asia as well as Kazakhstan.



If needed, I can dig up the threads that I can find.

Sharina: Yes you got them but that's about it you are becomming borderline greedy. DA is already geedy that's why we stopped him where he is.
The Lightning Star: Niger huh? Sure...
Decisive Action: Given the situation with your claims we gave you Georgia and you and Colodia will RP for North Carolina. South Carolina is now in the hands of North Germania.
Kopparbergs: Nice thread I am eagerly awaiting the outcome.
Soviet Bloc: This is an entirely new Earth. It was started for all those who couldn't claim anything on the Earth thread because all of the stuff was used up. Therefore, everyone who is here has started with a clean slate and given what they desire. Unfortunately all of your claims are already taken. Sorry.

:: I'll update the main thread and the maps later ::

Decisive Action: Given the situation with your claims we gave you Georgia and you and Colodia will RP for North Carolina. South Carolina is now in the hands of North Germania.




But Colodia wanted to claim North Carolina for himself, and RP for South Carolina, wasn't that it? Cause I have no real interest in taking just North Carolina unless I can get a stab at South Carolina, I'd much rather RP for SC than NC.

Well maybe if I get NC from the RP, I can trade North Germania NC for SC, possibilities... :) Okay, let's just wait and see what happens.

Thank you sir.

Damn... Well then, I'll continue to float in my alternate universe. Anyways, I don't really care, whenever I do RP I RP as Soviet Bloc (not the nations listed as where I claim). If anything, I only use them to describe my position in relation to other nations (if placed on Earth) and to describe the shape and size of my nation (it will be consisted of those areas regardless of who claims them and what earth they're on).

Yeah SB I do the same thing. The only time I RP as one of my claims is for Earth II purposes. And DA I don't recall that. But it will definitely make it more interesting.

Updated.

See Post 5

I'm not on that list.

If you're referring to my post on IH's thread...

I'll choose Earth II over. Sound good?

Layatreb, I feel I must make an plea regarding this new policy of multiple Earth's.

The only reason why I claimed land in Earth II was so that I could RP easily with Earth II nations, especially DA, Kopparbergs, and a few others.

It would be too crazy and stupid if I was stuck in Earth V only, then try to RP across dimensions to RP with DA or Layatreb or Colodia, or whoever on Earth II.

Also, if you eliminate all these people off Earth II because of multi-Earth claims, you will lose a significant portion of good RP'ers in Earth II.

I am willing to give up a considerable portion of my Earth II claims, so that I can have a single base or country to RP with, so that I can maintain trade, wars, etc. with DA and other Earth II nations.

I'm already heavily involved in Earth V as I'm part of 3 exclusive Earth V only alliances, and I've put considerable effort and work into RP'ing my nation's conqyests in Earth V.

I am willing to discuss terms to leave me with just one Earth II province or area so I can continue RP'ing with DA and the others.

I am willing to give up all my North American assets and African assets to my Anarctica claim. After all, most people don't have much interest in Anarctica, and there are still lands left for people to claim in there.

Problem:

If I am to be kicked out entirely, I'll be forced to resort to use a technology that people may consider a god-mod... "Sliding Tech" based off the Sliders TV show, which means I'll "Slide" in armies and such from parallel Earths like Earth V.

People would get pissed off and refuse to RP with me, hence ruination of my RP'ing. I would then be I.G.N.O.R.E.D. and that would cause two problems. First, people would miss out on my good RP'ing quality, and second, I would really lose my ambition to RP here in NS. People who don't I.G.N.O.R.E. me would lose the chance to read some good RP'ing with me upon me "quitting" NS RP'ing because of all these I.G.N.O.R.E. and "god-moddery" people may call with my Sliding Tech.

Also, I feel I need to make another point. On the other Earth's nations, states, or provinces are already taken. This means that if I want to RP as, say, France, I can't do it in Earth V because its already taken in Earth V. I'll have to choose another Earth so that I can RP as France, probably Earh II, III, or IV.


Solution:

I propose the following...

Only allow respectable nations to hold claims on Earth II if they have other possessions on other Earth's.

Good quality RP'ing, reputation, and respectable OOC character (no insulting, whining, no god-moddery, etc.

This would mean nations like me, 5 Civilized Nations, Kopparbergs, Hogsweat, etc. who RP well, have good personality, talent, etc. will be able to RP with multiple Earth's easily while the noobs or 1 - 2 month old newbies won't clutter up or fill up multiple Earth claims.

Again, I am willing to work out a deal or such.

Sorry for the ramble / rant, but I really felt that some things needed to be said.

Im only Earth II!

And i have a solution. Only Respectable members can hold Earth II places, HOWEVER, they can only hold ONE small country with an RL pop of NO MORE than 15 million(that still leaves quite a few)

BTW- can i have the remaining West African countries(Nigeria, Ghana, Benin, Togo and Burkina. They're all quite small. 'Cept for Nigeria, of course) or should i just take Nigeria(the big country below Niger).

Also, should i RP those or should i just claim em(seeing how only a few people, includin m'self, are actually RPing)

Also, i could exchange my Antarctica claim for those african countries(both are the same size baisically)

Im only Earth II!

And i have a solution. Only Respectable members can hold Earth II places, HOWEVER, they can only hold ONE small country with an RL pop of NO MORE than 15 million(that still leaves quite a few)

I feel that the population limit wouldn't work.

Why?

Other nations would easily invade, like DA for instance. I propose that every player that owns multi-Earth territories like I own territory in Earh V and II... I propose they get ONE land of their choosing, with no population limit to avoid DA-like conquest of the world. They cannot claim any more lands except when they get invaded and the player manages to launch a counter-invasion of the invader.

I feel that the population limit wouldn't work.

Why?

Other nations would easily invade, like DA for instance. I propose that every player that owns multi-Earth territories like I own territory in Earh V and II... I propose they get ONE land of their choosing, with no population limit to avoid DA-like conquest of the world. They cannot claim any more lands except when they get invaded and the player manages to launch a counter-invasion of the invader.

Ok, raise the pop limit to 75 million(that includes ALOT of countries, like Iran.) BUT NO MORE. We cant let you have a monopoly on Earths, that would be bad. All you need is one country, and 75 million is PLENTY large.

I feel that the population limit wouldn't work.

Why?

Other nations would easily invade, like DA for instance. I propose that every player that owns multi-Earth territories like I own territory in Earh V and II... I propose they get ONE land of their choosing, with no population limit to avoid DA-like conquest of the world. They cannot claim any more lands except when they get invaded and the player manages to launch a counter-invasion of the invader.


We must realize my claims are of comparitively small land to say those who stake out "All of China" or "All of Brazil". Overall, all of my lands probably add up to 1 China or 1 Brazil, I just prefer to have my lands and territories spread out over 10-15 nations, rather than 1 big mass. It's hardly a world conquest, but I do consider myself the "Master of Southern Africa". Anyway, after I can get myself recognize as owner of Namibia, I'm done making claims as that falls right in with my plans. After that, if I happen to gain something in a war, I'm fine with it, if not, then I don't really care.

We must realize my claims are of comparitively small land to say those who stake out "All of China" or "All of Brazil". Overall, all of my lands probably add up to 1 China or 1 Brazil, I just prefer to have my lands and territories spread out over 10-15 nations, rather than 1 big mass. It's hardly a world conquest, but I do consider myself the "Master of Southern Africa". Anyway, after I can get myself recognize as owner of Namibia, I'm done making claims as that falls right in with my plans. After that, if I happen to gain something in a war, I'm fine with it, if not, then I don't really care.

I realize that, DA.

I was referring to other new nations that may follow your example of conquest and taking over nations.

I’m sorry for this, Layarteb…

The reason I exist in multiple earths is that I want to RP with many people. If you stick to one earth only you cannot RP with the others. If a RP takes place in i.e. Earth-II and a player that does not exist in E-II replies, he may be ignored as he don’t exist there.

When I first claimed my small portion of land in Earth II I didn’t have any other land in another Earth. But my claim was never recognized as the thread starter never showed up (hence this thread, yepp), so I looked for other earths to participate in. I did manage to get two claims in HP-earth recognized, and I was very happy with that.
Later on I started to RP in Earth-V as well, and it’s in Earth-V my most RP’s has taken place lately.

I did not realize that you couldn’t have claims in Earth-V if you want to participate in Earth-II. I thought that the first rule was about you cannot have land in Chellis Nations claims (which I don’t have) if you want to be a part of Earth-II.

If the first rule is that you cannot have land in any other earth if you want to have a nation in Earth-II, well, then I certainly have broken that one… I apologize for that, and if the rule is not changed you may delete my claims, as I don’t want to lock myself to a single earth.

But I hope that this problem will be solved in a way or another. I still want to RP in Earth-II!

If Five Civilized Nations does not respond to Layarteb in regards to his duality on Earth I and II, I'd like to lay claim to the States of Washington and Oregon he currently controls. If complaints arise that I am claiming too much land, I would be happy to give some away in the event this transfer goes through.

And, by the way, bang-up job on this thread, Layarteb. Keep up the good work. :)

Guys, seriously. Who here can tell me who is respectable and who isn't? That is not fair and equal to everyone, but rather a mere hangout for all the popular people.

I understand that some of you have a good amount of claimed lands in other Earths as you do in Earth II. I understand that Yerfejj was lax and extended Earth II to those who werent in Earth I.

That was under the dead Earth II topic, this is the revived Earth II and we're under new management and new policies.

NO holding of territories in multiple Earths so long as your within Earth II!

About the respectable thing again, that's a big No-no. Unless you have a super-good reason to allow only "respectable" people on Earth II, and hand us a big list of who is respectable and who isn't, then we'll listen.

Layarteb, I've only taken one claim in Earth I (Kazakhstan) as a way to RP with others. But if you have a problem with that, I'll renounce all claims in Earth I and stick with Earth II.

It would be too crazy and stupid if I was stuck in Earth V only, then try to RP across dimensions to RP with DA or Layatreb or Colodia, or whoever on Earth II.
We understand that problems will arise, and we can't help it unless you give up one or the other. Choose what you love the most and stick with it.

Also, if you eliminate all these people off Earth II because of multi-Earth claims, you will lose a significant portion of good RP'ers in Earth II.
And we'll make way for more good RP'ers who will stick to Earth II and not jump around dimensions.

I am willing to give up a considerable portion of my Earth II claims, so that I can have a single base or country to RP with, so that I can maintain trade, wars, etc. with DA and other Earth II nations.
Sorry, no special exceptions. Go with either one or the other.

I'm already heavily involved in Earth V as I'm part of 3 exclusive Earth V only alliances, and I've put considerable effort and work into RP'ing my nation's conqyests in Earth V.Then it seems sticking with Earth V is best then?/

I am willing to discuss terms to leave me with just one Earth II province or area so I can continue RP'ing with DA and the others.
No special exceptions. (So others can see)


Also, I feel I need to make another point. On the other Earth's nations, states, or provinces are already taken. This means that if I want to RP as, say, France, I can't do it in Earth V because its already taken in Earth V. I'll have to choose another Earth so that I can RP as France, probably Earh II, III, or IV.You already are not allowed to do that (as far as I know) in Earth II.

This would mean nations like me, 5 Civilized Nations, Kopparbergs, Hogsweat, etc. who RP well, have good personality, talent, etc. will be able to RP with multiple Earth's easily while the noobs or 1 - 2 month old newbies won't clutter up or fill up multiple Earth claims.
I'm considering ways to ease up the clutter and making it fair to everyone.

Sorry for the ramble / rant, but I really felt that some things needed to be said.Appreciated, but not accepted.

Tyrandis: Noted.

Sharina: Sorry dude but ONE EARTH ONLY. There is no question, no population limits, no respectable people as Colodia has reinforced. I am sorry but it just is like that because that is beyond unfair and while life is unfair I am trying to keep the fairness aspect that Yereffej had in mind when he first began Earth II. So it's either Earth II or another Earth or whichever but not Earth II and...You have until Friday to make up your mind so it's not like a decision you don't have time to sleep on.

The Lightning Star: You weren't on the list so what's the problem? "Im only Earth II!" quote you! But I am freezing claims until this is sorted out. Once it is sorted out I will resume the claiming and such this way we don't have people claiming the territories of others who are on that list but revert to Earth II.

Kopparbergs: Sorry but it's either one or the other. If it applies to one it applies to all. The original movtive of the thread starter was that if you had a claim in the RL Nations Claim (Earth I) then you couldn't have it in Earth II. But at that time there was no other Earths. Now I look and they are up to Earth VI! It's just excessive. You have until Friday to make up your mind so it's not like a decision you don't have time to sleep on.

Triancia: I am freezing claims until this is sorted out. Once it is sorted out I will resume the claiming and such this way we don't have people claiming the territories of others who are on that list but revert to Earth II.

Colodia: Well said.

Granzi: You've got it. You can have if you want Earth II I'll gladly accept you into Earth II as I will everyone as long as they maintain only one Earth and it is Earth II, otherwise I'm sorry but you have to go.

I am freezing claims until this is sorted out. Once it is sorted out I will resume the claiming and such this way we don't have people claiming the territories of others who are on that list but revert to Earth II.

Okay, after reading the latest posts, I feel I need to state and clarify a few things.

First, I understand about the need to un-clutter Earth II and everything.

Second, I also understand that there must be fairness in Earth II claims and such, regarding claims on other Earth's.

Third, I apologize if my wording of "respectable" wasn't the best way to describe RP'ing and such.


I feel that one very important point must be brought up.

Here goes (an example)...

I want to do some RP'ing in Anarctica and Texas.

In Earth V Imperial Arcticas and Beltina owns Anarctica, and Wolf America owns Texas. Therefore I cannot own Anarctica and Texas in Earth V, or RP in these lands short of a war (which they probably will refuse to acknowledge or participate in).

In Earth II, Anarctica and Texas were unclaimed (Texas became free as Jumping Jax was deleted for inactivity). I saw the opporunity to gain Texas and Anarctica to RP with and own. Thus, I am able to own these two lands in Earth II, fulfilling my RP plans and stuff.

Therefore, I can bypass the problem of unable to RP in Anarctica and Texas in Earth V by owning these lands in Earth II, or any other Earth Series for that matter.


I strongly believe that in these type of situations, people who own land in other Earth's should be allowed to own land in Earth II as long as it's not the same land or claim as in other Earth's.

This would truly make it possible to greatly broaden RP'ing ability and possibility. It would be possible for me to RP with DA, or for me to RP with Greater Sixth Reich. Cross-Earth RP'ing is a nightmare, unless a nation occupies a portion of land in both Earth's.

This would make RP'ing far more maneagble and easier to understand / do.



On a more personal and logical note,

I don't believe in the "Infinite Jupiter Sized NS Earth" as it is scientifically proven that a Jupiter sized Earth would not be possible to exist naturally. The gravity alone would make formation of water, mountains, plate tectonics, etc. impossible, and lifeforms would not be able to evolve on the ground unless they develop godly muscles and bone structures.

The Multiverse concept of Earth I, II, III, and so on is scientifically possible, much more so than Jupiter Earth developing naturally.


Hope that clarifies things, and if you have any questions, please post or TG me.

That was exactly why Earth II was started because claims were taken in Earth I. So people had a fair chance for claims and RP'ing but you cannot RP with two Earths. If land is claimed in Earth V that you want it goes with the principle of land being claimed in Earth I that people wanted and that is tough luck. That's where Earth II came. They said tough luck at Earth I and rightfully so. People claimed here on Earth II and walla everyone was happy. Earth III came along, fell through, then IV, V, and now VI. Having claims in multiple Earths is just unfair in every respect. That is precisely why we're being strict with this one.

BTW this has nothing to do with science or quantum physics.

Exactly what was on my mind...

(+1!)

That was exactly why Earth II was started because claims were taken in Earth I. So people had a fair chance for claims and RP'ing but you cannot RP with two Earths. If land is claimed in Earth V that you want it goes with the principle of land being claimed in Earth I that people wanted and that is tough luck. That's where Earth II came. They said tough luck at Earth I and rightfully so. People claimed here on Earth II and walla everyone was happy. Earth III came along, fell through, then IV, V, and now VI. Having claims in multiple Earths is just unfair in every respect. That is precisely why we're being strict with this one.

BTW this has nothing to do with science or quantum physics.

I understand exactly what you mean.

Let me put it another way.

I want to RP with say, DA or Granzi (Who are Earth II exclusive). Hence I claim one piece of land in Earth II so that I will have a point of reference to RP and such with.

If I am located in Earth V, I cannot RP with DA or Granzi because they won't exist in Earth V as they exist exclusively in Earth II.

That means it will be impossible for my nation to interact with Earth II nations.

That means I will be stuck RP'ing with just Earth V and hopefully Earth III, IV, VI, all the way to Earth XXXXXXX.

On the other side, if I give up Earth V and move to Earth II, then I won't be able to RP with ANYONE outside of Earh II, which is quite unfair if you ask me. This is because if I do switch over to Earth II, then any claim or acquistion of land in other Earths for RP purposes, I would be kicked out of Earth II.

So far, the people I might be interested in RP'ing in Earth II is DA, Kopparbergs, Sevarius, and a few other nations. However, there are some nations I am enjoying RP'ing in Earth V with, like Greater Sixth Reich, Kopparbergs, Bedou, Mauwoiee, etc.


Please pardon my passiopn because I really support RP'ing with ANY nation, regardless of where they are located, whether it be Earth I, II, or X.

Well, I'm interested in staying on Earth II. I'd also like to add to my claim Nigeria and/or some of southern Russia (Kransdor Kray, Stranislav Kray (sp- if I have the spellings wrong it's the territories marked "1" and "2" on the Russian map) and Dagestan). I will also RP it out.

I’m sorry, but I don’t get why it’s unfair if I RP in multiple earths?
It’s your earth, so you’re in charge here, but I just want to tell you what I think. What if I make a puppet nation and role plays in Earth II with the puppet? Is that OK?

If anyone's interested, I'm planning a character-based RP based in Andrehervian Slovakia in which a nuclear reactor has exploded (think Chernobyl) and documents the resulting fracas between Andrehervia and neighbouring countries that slowly find out about the disaster, along with families contaminated by the radiation emitted. It's essentially a work in progress so if anyone's interested TG me.

I’m sorry, but I don’t get why it’s unfair if I RP in multiple earths?

Exactly my point.

There are some Earth II exclusive nations I want to RP with, but by your rules, Layatreb and Colodia, I won't be able to do so.

If I shifted my nation to Earth II and abandoned Earth V, then I won't be able to RP with Earth V nations because in doing so, you'd kick me out for having land in Earth V.

Or if I abandon Earth II, then stay in Earth V. I will be able to RP with Earth V nations, but I won't be able to RP with Earth II nations. This is beacuse I won't be allowed to have any land in Earth II to RP from.

This rule would only hurt RP'ing in the long run, as some interesting RP's and such will be made impossible by your rule of "No Multiple Earh Claims".


I have a simple solution for this problem. I can have my nation create an artifical island about double the size of Hawaii somewhere in the Pacific Ocean or the Indian Ocean. This would give me some land in Earth II, while not interfering with any national claims on the 7 main continents.

A 200 mile long, 200 mile wide artifical island would suit my population needs perfectly, and I could mine the seafloor for metal ores I need like iron, tungsten, gold, etc.

Just think of it as "Atlantis Revived" or "Atlantis Island Rises Back to Surface" or something like that.

That would allow me to continue my ongoing RP'ing with Decisive Action (The Tallmadge RP from a month or two ago, once we both pick where we left off), and any additional international intrigue with Decisive Action and his allies in Earth II.

It never ceases to amaze me the inability of people to comprehend writing. I'm sick of repeating myself. The rule was in place when Earth II was started for Earth I cases and it shall carry over to future cases. That is how it is. It's not about clearing space, any conspiracy, any bias, etc. People in Earth II couldn't RP with people in Earth I because there was no room in Earth I and it was such.

Is puppet nations allowed in Earth II?

Puppet nations needs to be discussed. Colodia TG me and let me know what you think.

The BitingRealitans would like to claim the Rostov, Astrakhan and Volgograd oblasts of Russia.

The BitingRealitans would like to claim the Rostov, Astrakhan and Volgograd oblasts of Russia.

Theres a temp. freeze on claims(at least thats what methinks)

Theres a temp. freeze on claims(at least thats what methinks)

Yep. It's on posts #5 & 153.

Yep. It's on posts #5 & 153.

Since was claim was before the big freeze...(the one for the rest of the unclaimed nations in west africa Excluding Equilateral New Guinea in exchange for giving up my antarctica claim.), will you verify it, wait for the freeze to end THEN verify it, or just not recognize it ever existed.

No the freeze went into effect on post 153. When this situation is over I'll relook at the claims that have been made and come up with something. I want to settle this multiple Earth problem first.

No the freeze went into effect on post 153. When this situation is over I'll relook at the claims that have been made and come up with something. I want to settle this multiple Earth problem first.

OOC: Okie day... I guess ill just wait until friday...

But what am i going to do until then.

*looks outside at the clear Panamanian sky, the palm trees next door, the rainforest on the other side, and the park down the street. He also looks at the advertisments for fancy(Good, and not very expensive) resturaunts on the beautiful causeway of Panama City with over 2 miles of walking and biking.*

Awww man, theres nothing to do....

Fear not Friday this will be all over for good. See people don't understand that in Nation States there are two worlds so to speak. There is the giant everyone included universe with space nations, future nations, Earth nations, etc. Often these nations take up the same space but it's alright nobody minds generally except for maybe 5% of the time. Secondly, there are the specific worlds. These are like Earth II and Earth V, etc. So you can RP with people in Earth II if you aren't in Earth II, it's possible, it's discretionary but it's possible. If often will RP just in Earth II (think of it as like an exclusive club) and the whole grand scheme at the same time.

If I can put my two cents in:

I can see both sides of the argument- on one hand, you don't want one nation to claim land on multiple Earths that prevent a newcomer from RPing in the territory they want. On the other hand, nations don't want to be restricted in the amount of people they can RP with, so they'll seek to join as many Earths as they can so they can properly RP with their friends.

So I suggest this solution:

-Those who were already multi-Earth nations can stay in all of their claims provided they do not make anymore claims in any other Earths. This is because several nations have already established RP relations with other Earths and I don't believe it's fair to destroy those connections.

-From here on in, no one else with territory in another Earth can make a claim here.

Also, since the disputed territories don't center around Russia, is it possible those claims can be sorted out at the very least?

The BitingRealitans would like to claim the Rostov, Astrakhan and Volgograd oblasts of Russia.
I hope this multiple earth-thing will be solved in a way or another. I want to continue my RP in Russia. It's nice to see that more of the republics in Russia are claimed (thinking of you and Rome West).

-Those who were already multi-Earth nations can stay in all of their claims provided they do not make anymore claims in any other Earths. This is because several nations have already established RP relations with other Earths and I don't believe it's fair to destroy those connections.
First off, there is already enough work to deal with if we let people do whatever they want.
Secondly, the bold is the equivilent of having Kingergardeners say the Pledge of Alligence once and are expected to abide by it for the rest of their lives without saying it again. People are going to cheat...

I get what your saying, but it's the whole fact that Earth 2 nations are extending their power to other Earths that is the problem in the first place. Can't get rid of a fly just by hitting it, can you? No...you must SMACK THAT BITCH TILL IT TWITCHES AND FALLS DOWN TO THE CARPET!

First off, there is already enough work to deal with if we let people do whatever they want.
Secondly, the bold is the equivilent of having Kingergardeners say the Pledge of Alligence once and are expected to abide by it for the rest of their lives without saying it again. People are going to cheat...

I get what your saying, but it's the whole fact that Earth 2 nations are extending their power to other Earths that is the problem in the first place. Can't get rid of a fly just by hitting it, can you? No...you must SMACK THAT BITCH TILL IT TWITCHES AND FALLS DOWN TO THE CARPET!

Yes, there are going to be a few bad apples and cheaters, I admit it.

Earth II nations getting too powerful? Simple solution is to create an alliance bloc to offset the growing power. Real life NATO versus Russia's Warsaw Pact for instance.

I have already established RP'ing, connections, trade, and participated in DA's RP's. Most notably the Hataria Mammalian War from last summer and some RP's related to Thought Control Systems, DA's Governor John Tallmadge, etc.

To cut off these RP's because of this Earth II's new uber-strict rules regarding forbidden RP'ing and land ownership across multiple Earths is plain stupid, IMHO.

It is wrong to forbid any non-Earth II, or multiple Earth nations to RP with each other. Being forbidden from RP'ing in Earth II if you're based in another Earth can really ruin potentially good RP's and ongoing inter-Earth RP's.


However, I do support Rome W's idea of limiting multiple Earth claims. If you just allow multi-Earth nations to claim one small area the size of Rhode Island or for 2 billion+ nations, an area the size of Mass, Conn, and Rhode Island combined in Earth II... then it would allow fun RP'ing to take place and would not prevent other Earth Series nations from RP'ing with Earth II exclusive nations.

That, or allow the construction of small artifical islands like Evil Woody Thoughts is doing to build a city, military base, etc. on to have a base of operations in Earth II. Build these islands in the Pacific or Indian Ocean (craploads of free wide-open ocean to do it in)

Large claims by multi-Earth nations are to be ignored, like claiming Texas or Germany sized claims... I agree with that totally. That way, there will still be plenty of land left for everybody if the multi-Earth nations are limited to one small nation / province / state / region claim each.

This would solve the problem of space in Earth II, and also allow people like myself, Kooparbergs, DA, Granzi, Hogsweat, etc. to RP across different Earth's to have fun and enjoyable experiences here at NS.

Gotcha Layarteb.

I'll renounce Kazakhstan in Earth I. Are my Earth II claims fine now?

Gotcha Layarteb.

I'll renounce Kazakhstan in Earth I. Are my Earth II claims fine now?
So long as you renounce all your claims from forgein Earths, your fine. I'll assume that's all you have and that your off the hook.

First off, there is already enough work to deal with if we let people do whatever they want.
Secondly, the bold is the equivilent of having Kingergardeners say the Pledge of Alligence once and are expected to abide by it for the rest of their lives without saying it again. People are going to cheat...

I get what your saying, but it's the whole fact that Earth 2 nations are extending their power to other Earths that is the problem in the first place. Can't get rid of a fly just by hitting it, can you? No...you must SMACK THAT BITCH TILL IT TWITCHES AND FALLS DOWN TO THE CARPET!

Well, my idea was saying that only those who already have multi-Earth nations can keep their claims (and make no more) while everyone else must abide by the no multi-Earth policy. It's kind of like when the National Hockey League decreed that every player had to wear helmets after 1979- those who played before that year didn't have to but everyone else did. I think a similar situation, because of the RPs already established, could be worked out here.

Just a note, here:

If anyone gets pissy over these claims and decides to attack Layarteb (although unlikely, and he would almost definitely ignore you), North Germania and all the other members of The October Alliance will retaliate, defeat your army, and divide up your nation.

Just a note and advance warning, not a threat.

- N.G.

Just a note, here:

If anyone gets pissy over these claims and decides to attack Layarteb (although unlikely, and he would almost definitely ignore you), North Germania and all the other members of The October Alliance will retaliate, defeat your army, and divide up your nation.

Just a note and advance warning, not a threat.

- N.G.

Without wanting to disparage you, I would hope that we would all be better than that (meaning that I hope we can all remain civilized about this).

See Post 1

I just sent out a slew of telegrams to the nations on the list and found that Whittier and Morathania are non-existent now so they are erased from the list, obviously. Sharina, Kopparbergs, Tyrandis, and Granzi you were not included as you obviously know what is going on.

Just for the record, the Parthians has decided to give up everything east of the Indus, Including Kashmir, to Moi. Now, since that isnt technically a claim(another nation that owns it is GIVING it to me,) could you add it or is EVERYTHING frozen?

I understand Whittier has a claim on Mexico, but would it be possible to claim the Yucatan province? Here is a image of the Yucatan Province, its the very northern tip of the Yucatan Penisula.

http://www.travelamap.com/mexico/yucatan.gif

It is a very small part of Mexico, it goes with Casana's history, but if you want me to past a thread on my claiming and historical connection with the Yucatan, I understand, and if I need Whittier's permission, I will work for the privilege.

EDIT: Bad map and info, sorry, changed it.

I understand Whittier has a claim on Mexico, but would it be possible to claim the Yucatan province? Here is a image of the Yucatan Province, its the very northern tip of the Yucatan Penisula.

http://www.travelamap.com/mexico/yucatan.gif

It is a very small part of Mexico, it goes with Casana's history, but if you want me to past a thread on my claiming and historical connection with the Yucatan, I understand, and if I need Whittier's permission, I will work for the privilege.

EDIT: Bad map and info, sorry, changed it.

You should re-read the information posts at the beginning of this thread.

Just for the record, the Parthians has decided to give up everything east of the Indus, Including Kashmir, to Moi. Now, since that isnt technically a claim(another nation that owns it is GIVING it to me,) could you add it or is EVERYTHING frozen?

I need to see that from them.

You should re-read the information posts at the beginning of this thread.
I rechecked them. I did read all of the rules, but I did not take a good look at the nations that had to chose between Earth II and others. If the way I am interpreting the information is true, does that mean Whittier is not a part of Earth II anymore? If that is so, then I was unaware, because I had checked the map first, because he was still on there, I was misguided by my lack of research.

If that is the case, and Whittier is not part of Earth II anymore, that means a claim for the Yucatan province of Mexico would be allowed? Or am I not seeing the point?

I rechecked them. I did read all of the rules, but I did not take a good look at the nations that had to chose between Earth II and others. If the way I am interpreting the information is true, does that mean Whittier is not a part of Earth II anymore? If that is so, then I was unaware, because I had checked the map first, because he was still on there, I was misguided by my lack of research.

If that is the case, and Whittier is not part of Earth II anymore, that means a claim for the Yucatan province of Mexico would be allowed? Or am I not seeing the point?

POST 5

POST 5
Ah. Thank you for claifying. I am not good at reading everything, so I am sorry for wasting your time. I can understand your aggravation, so I won't inquire furthur until you get the problem sorted out.

Layarteb, I've only taken one claim in Earth I (Kazakhstan) as a way to RP with others. But if you have a problem with that, I'll renounce all claims in Earth I and stick with Earth II.
Is Earth I HP's Earth Claims thing? If so then I'll buy Kazakhstan off of you for a very large sum if you gvie it up.

Concerning Puppets

Yes me and Colodia have come to agreement. We will allow nations of other Earth's to have puppets in Earth II but we have some strict conditions for this.

First and foremost, the puppet will be limited to one claim and not a claim of like Greenland or China. Something small, which is at the discretion of both Colodia and I. The claim CANNOT exceed 150,000 sq. mi. and yes we will both be checking up on this. So choose wisely because I'm not going to be happy if I have to change your claim 200 times.

OK, this sounds fair. Thank you for open up a way for us to continue RP in Earth-II, I really appreciate this!
My claim in Earth-II is (as far as I have found out) almost exactly 150.000 sq.mi. But I wonder if it can count as one claim (hope so!)?
If this is OK with you, you can transfer my claim of northwestern russia to my puppet Baltic Karelia.

Concerning Puppets

Yes me and Colodia have come to agreement. We will allow nations of other Earth's to have puppets in Earth II but we have some strict conditions for this.


First and foremost, the puppet will be limited to one claim and not a claim of like Greenland or China. Something small, which is at the discretion of both Colodia and I. The claim CANNOT exceed 150,000 sq. mi. and yes we will both be checking up on this. So choose wisely because I'm not going to be happy if I have to change your claim 200 times.
Second, the main nation MUST inform me and Colodia that the puppet is theirs.
Third, the puppet MUST NOT BE interlaced with the main nation and thus independent.
Fourth, their claim is static and cannot increase however, they can be invaded but I strongly ask that anyone out there please be nice. However, if you wish to bow out of Earth II and to bow out with a bang we're not going to stop you at all from having another Earth II nation invade you and this and that.
Fifth, if you renounce your claims on anothe Earth you will NOT be limited at Earth II as such but rather only limited in the sense of greed. If you get too greedy we're going to stop you.
Sixth, to be fair, those claims that will now be available from some of these nations will be placed back in the bin for those to claim. However, nations already here should not be greedy and if you already exceed a lot of land we're going to say no to these claims.
Seventh, from this moment on, all nations that are not in Earth II and come into Earth II cannot be part of another Earth. Those nations already in Earth II and have a claim elsewhere in another Earth will be the only ones who can take part in this. I will not penalize them but new members from this post (#181) onward WILL NOT BE allowed to have multiple Earth claims regardless of puppet.

Colodia please could you ring in on this and tell me what you think. As I have always said your opinion is greatly valued so if you wish for me to change something I shall.

This seems much more reasonable, and I support this idea.

However, I have a few questions myself.

First, "Claims cannot exceed 150,000 square miles". I'd like to know what state or country is about this size so that I and others can visualize and have a better idea what to claim and what not to claim.

For example, is Louisiana 150,000 square miles? Texas? Italy? England? Etc.


Second, I'd like clarification on the puppet independence thing. Exactly what do you consider independence for puppets? If this point is cleared up, more people will be able to understand and make easier for them to decide whether to puppet or not in Earth II.

Third, will nations like myself and Kopparbergs be allowed to retain our holdings / claims in Earth II, then transfer them into our puppets (within the 150,000 square mile limit)?

Please answer these questions, then I'll be able to make a decision whether to set up a puppet in Earth II, or to abandon your Earth II completely.

Seeing as I own less than 3 sqkm of land in Earth II, I'll forefit the little land I have. Meh.

Seeing as my RPs are confined to Earth II, I shall forfeit my Earth V and VI Sudans and Chads.

Thanks for bringing this thread to my attention.

I would like to claim Nigeria, Benin and Togo for the Free Land of Cotland. I originally had my eyes set upon Scotland, but it's already taken :( so I'll take the mentioned nations (Togo, Benin and Nigeria) if I may.

Kopparbergs: Yes you're claim is like 155,000 sq. mi. and 5,000 sq. mi. is an okay margin of error you can keep what you have now.

Sharina: It is up to you to do research to your claim. A good site is Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page). Just place what you want in the search bar and you'll find just about everything. Puppet independence means that both your nation and your puppet are independent of each other, not a colony of each other, not a part of each other, completely independent. Yes and there is a 7,500 sq. mi. margin of error but only if it includes a previous claim. Like let's say what you want is 156,000 sq. mi. and you already have it in your list then it'll be alright.

Praetonia: In or out make up your mind.

Jonothana: Okay.

Greenmanbry: You got it.

Cotland: Read post 5.

Casana: As of Friday 12:00PM EST the hold stops.

Just clarity, I touched up the puppet post (#181) and am doing land area sizes now as we speak. Actually DA I am sorry and I must apologize, you have not that much land.

Kopparbergs: Yes you're claim is like 155,000 sq. mi. and 5,000 sq. mi. is an okay margin of error you can keep what you have now.

Thank you, Layarteb. From now on I'll RP as Baltic Karelia.

Is Earth I HP's Earth Claims thing? If so then I'll buy Kazakhstan off of you for a very large sum if you gvie it up.

Sure. I'll sell Earth I Kazkahstan to you for $50 billion. Deal?

I thought of a good idea in that we should have a population-land area matrix for claiming. This way a nation with some 200m people doesn't have a land area equal to a continent.

So here is the matrix.

under 500k sq. mi. = population non-important
500k to 1.0m = population of minimally 500m
1.0m to 2.0m = population of minimally 1.0b
2.0m to 3.0m = population of minimally 2.0b
3.0m to 4.0m = population of minimally 3.0b

The limit is 4.0m sq. mi. regardless of your population size and all nations that currently do not meet the criteria have been notified and will not lose any claims that they have. However, they will be frozen from making any additional claims until they can meet the population requirements.

I recieved your TG, Layatreb regarding my claim sizes.

I have come to a decision. I'm seriously considering having a puppet state stay in Earth II, for the sake of RP with DA and others.

I have been thinking of two possible claim combo's I'd like to have for my puppet.

Claim 1: Retain my Anarctica claim and drop everything else. Its about 162,000 sq. miles (my Anarctica claim).

OR

Claim 2-a: Louisiana, Guinea, and Guinea Bissau (Adds up to roughly 161,000 square miles). Drop everything else. However, I am not sure if DA has interest in Louisiana and wants to acquire it down the line.

Claim 2-b: Guinea and Senegal (including Gambia as it is a neligible sized nation). This is a secondary claim to avoid any war with DA over Louisiana.


I'd like to know if any one of these claims would be acceptable for my upcoming puppet.

It all looks good Layarteb, well done. Although I had a slightly different plan in mind...your idea seems the most popular.

I would like to claim Nigeria, Benin and Togo for the Free Land of Cotland. I originally had my eyes set upon Scotland, but it's already taken :( so I'll take the mentioned nations (Togo, Benin and Nigeria) if I may.

I already claimed those! RIGHT before the big freeze. So i get first dibs!

It all looks good Layarteb, well done. Although I had a slightly different plan in mind...your idea seems the most popular.

TG me yours.

I recieved your TG, Layatreb regarding my claim sizes.

I have come to a decision. I'm seriously considering having a puppet state stay in Earth II, for the sake of RP with DA and others.

I have been thinking of two possible claim combo's I'd like to have for my puppet.

Claim 1: Retain my Anarctica claim and drop everything else. Its about 162,000 sq. miles (my Anarctica claim).

OR

Claim 2-a: Louisiana, Guinea, and Guinea Bissau (Adds up to roughly 161,000 square miles). Drop everything else. However, I am not sure if DA has interest in Louisiana and wants to acquire it down the line.

Claim 2-b: Guinea and Senegal (including Gambia as it is a neligible sized nation). This is a secondary claim to avoid any war with DA over Louisiana.


I'd like to know if any one of these claims would be acceptable for my upcoming puppet.

I'm trying to keep my cool here but you're pushing it. I said 150,000 with a buffer of 7,500 not 12,000 or 25,000. I give an inch you try to take a yard and it's stopping here.

I need to see that from them.

Its on another forum BUT its respectable(y'know, its the SEATO alliance forum. The Alliance has nations such as Roach-busters, Nikolaos the Great, Generic Empire, and Borman Empire just to name a few.)

And ill still give up my Antarctica claim if i need to to get those african nations.

Of course, for now youve freezed my stuff...

here it are. (http://s8.invisionfree.com/SEATO/index.php?showtopic=28&st=0&#last)

I thought of a good idea in that we should have a population-land area matrix for claiming. This way a nation with some 200m people doesn't have a land area equal to a continent.

So here is the matrix.

under 500k sq. mi. = population non-important
500k to 1.0m = population of minimally 500m
1.0m to 2.0m = population of minimally 1.0b
2.0m to 3.0m = population of minimally 2.0b
3.0m to 4.0m = population of minimally 3.0b

The limit is 4.0m sq. mi. regardless of your population size and all nations that currently do not meet the criteria have been notified and will not lose any claims that they have. However, they will be frozen from making any additional claims until they can meet the population requirements.

Aww man. Im a hard-working member of the NS community, i at least want to be able to have a strip of land across Africa. I have worked hard and ive earned respect, yet i cant even do that? Ive offered to cede my Antarctica claim, and my Pakistan claim CANT go against me(seeing how it was given to me from an ally.)

This bites. Big time...

*goes and cries in a corner because he wont be able to have a respectable claim for months.*

So, Layarteb, what do you want from me?

Its on another forum BUT its respectable(y'know, its the SEATO alliance forum. The Alliance has nations such as Roach-busters, Nikolaos the Great, Generic Empire, and Borman Empire just to name a few.)

And ill still give up my Antarctica claim if i need to to get those african nations.

Of course, for now youve freezed my stuff...

here it are. (http://s8.invisionfree.com/SEATO/index.php?showtopic=28&st=0&#last)

Okay here is the divvy up.

Current Claim: 2,157,635.37
W/O Antarctica: 1,400,875.17
W/O Ant. and Africa Claims: 2,020,921.62
Africa Claims: 62,0046.45

Your Population: 956m
Population Category: 500k - 1.0m sq. mi.

So if you want to drop Ant. you still need to be over 1.0b, which isn't that far away so it's not a problem really. But if you drop Ant. and keep Africa claims you are at a 2.0b necessity. You still have play room as you have a bunch of nations. Here I'll repost it for you so you can see.

Antarctica (part) 756,760.20
Libya 679,362.20
Niger 473,631.50
Tasmania 184,711.30
Tunisia 63,170.17
Nigeria 356668.8
Ghana 92100.81
Benin 43482.83
Togo 21924.81
Burkina Faso 105869.2

These are the ones you want, plenty of play room.

As far as the SEATO thing I have to be a member so just have him post here and I'll remove them from him but the limits on ya are going to be getting heavy.

So, Layarteb, what do you want from me?

There are three options.

1. Renounce Earth I claim and stay in Earth II in your full force.
2. Keep Earth I and drop to a puppet in Earth II with a 150,000 sq. mi. size limit on your claim.
3. Leave Earth II. (Though I don't want this as you are a huge member it is an option).

Okay here is the divvy up.

Current Claim: 2,157,635.37
W/O Antarctica: 1,400,875.17
W/O Ant. and Africa Claims: 2,020,921.62
Africa Claims: 62,0046.45

Your Population: 956m
Population Category: 500k - 1.0m sq. mi.

So if you want to drop Ant. you still need to be over 1.0b, which isn't that far away so it's not a problem really. But if you drop Ant. and keep Africa claims you are at a 2.0b necessity. You still have play room as you have a bunch of nations. Here I'll repost it for you so you can see.

Antarctica (part) 756,760.20
Libya 679,362.20
Niger 473,631.50
Tasmania 184,711.30
Tunisia 63,170.17
Nigeria 356668.8
Ghana 92100.81
Benin 43482.83
Togo 21924.81
Burkina Faso 105869.2

These are the ones you want, plenty of play room.

As far as the SEATO thing I have to be a member so just have him post here and I'll remove them from him but the limits on ya are going to be getting heavy.


If i drop Tasmania AND Antarctica, will i have enough room to keep em if i have 1b?

And what if someone takes my places before i reach 1b?!?!?!

Its better than before, but this still bites...

Dropping those two will allow you to add the African nations you want and still be able to stay as I added in a 100m person margin of error in population so therefore you qualify and can have those nations but just cannot exceed 2.0m sq. mi. before you reach 2.0b people.

Dropping those two will allow you to add the African nations you want and still be able to stay as I added in a 100m person margin of error in population so therefore you qualify and can have those nations but just cannot exceed 2.0m sq. mi. before you reach 2.0b people.

What if another nation GIVES them to me? Like a gift?

What if another nation GIVES them to me? Like a gift?

I'm more keen than that. Nein.

I'm more keen than that. Nein.

What do you mean, "nein"? Parthians wants to gimme Pakistan east of the Indus and i cant accept?

(yes, i know what nein means. Do you know what "Chu cha" means?)

Hint, its Panamanian Slang.

Just for the record, the Parthians has decided to give up everything east of the Indus, Including Kashmir, to Moi. Now, since that isnt technically a claim(another nation that owns it is GIVING it to me,) could you add it or is EVERYTHING frozen?

This is true, I gave it to him. It needs to be updated.

This is true, I gave it to him. It needs to be updated.

So you gave him back Pakistan?

So you gave him back Pakistan?

He said east o' da Indus.

But ill let him respond.

Layatreb, sorry for pushing ya.

I am willing to keep my Anarctica claim and renounce all the others. Cut my Anarctica holdings from 162,000 sq. miles to the required 157,500 sq. miles.

Would that be much more agreeable?

Parthians & TLS

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/actual/evenements/pakistan/pakistan.gif

Okay this is Pakistan with provinces. Which one's are whose? It'll be easier to calculate land if you just cite provinces.

Here are the land area divvies...

http://www.statoids.com/upk.html

Ive LIVED there, so i know the area by heart.

I get Punjab,Northern Areas, Sindh, and the Islamabad Area.

And Azad Kashmir.

Baisically, he gets the NWFP, Baluchistan, and the Tribal Zones.

The map is HORRIBLY wrong, becuase Islamabad is inside of Punjab(well, its own territory really) and isnt that close to the NWFP.

Karachi's MINE!

Ive LIVED there, so i know the area by heart.

I get Punjab,Northern Areas, Sindh, and the Islamabad Area.

And Azad Kashmir.

Baisically, he gets the NWFP, Baluchistan, and the Tribal Zones.

The map is HORRIBLY wrong, becuase Islamabad is inside of Punjab(well, its own territory really) and isnt that close to the NWFP.

Karachi's MINE!

Okay I got your updated list now.

Pakistan 166,535.00
Nigeria 356668.8
Ghana 92100.81
Benin 43482.83
Togo 21924.81
BF 105869.2
Libya 679,362.20
Niger 473,631.50
Tunisia 63,170.17

Total 2,002,745.32

Okay I got your updated list now.

Pakistan 166,535.00
Nigeria 356668.8
Ghana 92100.81
Benin 43482.83
Togo 21924.81
BF 105869.2
Libya 679,362.20
Niger 473,631.50
Tunisia 63,170.17

Total 2,002,745.32

Any recomendations of which country i should get rid of?

I'd drop Tunisia. It's small and you have a massive coast with Libya.

I'd drop Tunisia. It's small and you have a massive coast with Libya.

Okie.

Unfortunatly, all my claims are still frozen..

is there any way to, ahem, reserve them?

I've got nice green money...

*wink wink*

(J/K on everything after the "reserve them?" line.)

Okie.

Unfortunatly, all my claims are still frozen..

is there any way to, ahem, reserve them?

I've got nice green money...

*wink wink*

(J/K on everything after the "reserve them?" line.)


Given they were in before the freeze... ;)

The Lightning Star Benin 43482.83
Burkinea Faso 105869.2
Ghana 92100.81
Libya 679,362.20
Niger 473,631.50
Nigeria 356668.8
Pakistan 166,535.00
Togo 21924.81
Total 1,939,575.15

Given they were in before the freeze... ;)

:D!

:D!

Okay updated. Well now that that is settled I hope that people come around by Friday or else we're going to have a lot of empty land.

Okay updated. Well now that that is settled I hope that people come around by Friday or else we're going to have a lot of empty land.

Well, more empty land means that new faces will show up! The Earth II Geo-political Landscape will be alot different and *hopefully* better!

Well, more empty land means that new faces will show up! The Earth II Geo-political Landscape will be alot different and *hopefully* better!

That is the ultimate goal.

Layatreb, sorry for pushing ya.

I am willing to keep my Anarctica claim and renounce all the others. Cut my Anarctica holdings from 162,000 sq. miles to the required 157,500 sq. miles.

Would that be much more agreeable?

Any response to this, Layatreb?

Well, I'm happy that the multi-Earth thing has been sorted out. The puppet thing is very reasonable (I think what is meant by "independence" is that the puppet does not receive any "help" from the mother nation, which is acceptable).

I do, however have two questions:

1) I- as a person- control a few other nations like BitingReality but I do not RP them as puppets of my nation (I created BitingReality initially because I wanted to have some fun oppressing people instead of always being "nice"). I also use the other nations to get involed in wars, because I don't like my main nation to get involved into armed conflicts (I know, it's weird for a guy with a Roman nation to say that, but. What I intend on doing is having two nations- BitingReality and this nation- involved in Earth II with small claims (renounce any further claims this nation has made- just keep me in Switzerland and Italy), one (this nation) being diplomatic and the other being a warring nation. Would it be okay if I had both nations here? The claims won't be big- both will be small- and I really want to include both so that I can get involved in all aspects of Earth II (wars/diplomacy, with a nation each leaning either way).

2) Once the freeze is lifted, will all the claims (made after the freeze) have to be made again?

Well, I'm happy that the multi-Earth thing has been sorted out. The puppet thing is very reasonable (I think what is meant by "independence" is that the puppet does not receive any "help" from the mother nation, which is acceptable).

I do, however have two questions:

1) I- as a person- control a few other nations like BitingReality but I do not RP them as puppets of my nation (I created BitingReality initially because I wanted to have some fun oppressing people instead of always being "nice"). I also use the other nations to get involed in wars, because I don't like my main nation to get involved into armed conflicts (I know, it's weird for a guy with a Roman nation to say that, but. What I intend on doing is having two nations- BitingReality and this nation- involved in Earth II with small claims (renounce any further claims this nation has made- just keep me in Switzerland and Italy), one (this nation) being diplomatic and the other being a warring nation. Would it be okay if I had both nations here? The claims won't be big- both will be small- and I really want to include both so that I can get involved in all aspects of Earth II (wars/diplomacy, with a nation each leaning either way).

2) Once the freeze is lifted, will all the claims (made after the freeze) have to be made again?

No multiple nations will create just as much havoc as multiple Earths has and I have done enough stress these past four days to honestly worry about another chaotic mess. And yes once the freeze is lifted claims will have to be remade if they were previously done so during the freeze.

Claim withdrawn.

I am no longer interested in Earth II.

Without wanting to antagonize, I do want to state a few things to hopefully change your mind on the matter:

A) I promise it will be just those two and the claims will be tiny
B) The two are supposed to be rivals, and I want to play that in Earth II as well
C) I really want both in there so I can take part in the wars. I don't like using this nation for wars (i.e. starting them), so I'd rather use the other nation. If you're worried that I'll use both to "team up" on another nation that simply won't happen.

Also, what would happen if I RP'ed a situation where an ethnic group wanted independence? Would I not be allowed to grant it to them because I can't have another nation in here?

If anyone's interested, I'm planning a character-based RP based in Andrehervian Slovakia in which a nuclear reactor has exploded (think Chernobyl) and documents the resulting fracas between Andrehervia and neighbouring countries that slowly find out about the disaster, along with families contaminated by the radiation emitted. It's essentially a work in progress so if anyone's interested TG me.

Repost. Anyone interested?

Whew, a long thread to search through to find the right posts.
181. Moontian does not have any puppets on any Earth, so this doesn't apply.
139. Fair enough, so Moontian is pulling out of Earth II. Either way, the planet in NS is probably about the size of the star Eta Carinae.

I already claimed those! RIGHT before the big freeze. So i get first dibs!

Sorry. I checked it today, and it only said that you have claimed Togo. Sorry. Have you claimed Benin as well?

I'm staying in Earth II. I recede my claims in other threads.

Sorry. I checked it today, and it only said that you have claimed Togo. Sorry. Have you claimed Benin as well?


Ive got Libya, Niger, Nigeria, Benin, Togo, Burkina, Ghana, and the Pakistani Provinces of Sindh, Northern Territories, Azad KAshmir, Punjab, and Islamabad Capital Territory.

However, once the big freeze is over(which is tommorrow actually) you can go after Tunisia.

There is also my Antarctica claim that i forfited, as well as numerous areas of land that will be freed up tommorrow(because like 40% of all claims will be renounced because either 1, the claiming nation doesnt exist or 2, they have decided to leave Earth II.) So dont worry, there'll be PLENTY o' land to claim.

Without wanting to antagonize, I do want to state a few things to hopefully change your mind on the matter:

A) I promise it will be just those two and the claims will be tiny
B) The two are supposed to be rivals, and I want to play that in Earth II as well
C) I really want both in there so I can take part in the wars. I don't like using this nation for wars (i.e. starting them), so I'd rather use the other nation. If you're worried that I'll use both to "team up" on another nation that simply won't happen.

Also, what would happen if I RP'ed a situation where an ethnic group wanted independence? Would I not be allowed to grant it to them because I can't have another nation in here?

Do I studder? You guys wonder why I am a prick? It's because I have to repeat myself forty times!


Whew, a long thread to search through to find the right posts.
181. Moontian does not have any puppets on any Earth, so this doesn't apply.
139. Fair enough, so Moontian is pulling out of Earth II. Either way, the planet in NS is probably about the size of the star Eta Carinae.

You got it.

Sorry. I checked it today, and it only said that you have claimed Togo. Sorry. Have you claimed Benin as well

No he put in the claims prior to the freeze. Check out the list it's been updated since late last night.

I'm staying in Earth II. I recede my claims in other threads.

Roger that...

I will just take the remaining countries in Africa; Tunisia, Malawi and Equatorial Guinea and the Russian oblasts of Pskov, Novogorod, Tver', and Smolensk.

I am also receding my claims in Earth V.

Another one who needs to read the threads. Freeze on claims...

Do I studder? You guys wonder why I am a prick? It's because I have to repeat myself forty times!

Okay. I accept.

Okay. I accept.

Thank You.

Okay in light of it being Thanksgiving and I know I have been a real prick lately I would like to do this for all of you guys out there. Consider it my appreciation for your cooperation.

The freeze on claiming is lifted as we have like two nations remaining that need to key in and if they don't by tomorrow than walla they are gone.

Also please bear in mind that the server is down so I cannot upload the maps at this present time.

RomeW: You have Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai, and the Dagestan Republic added.

BitingReality: You have Astrakhan Oblast, Rostov Oblast, and Volgograd Oblast added.

Casana: That section of the Yucatán is yours.

Thus, North Germania has officially claimed Ukraine and Latvia.

OOC: To whomever has claimed Germany, would you like to trade Ukraine and/or Latvia for it?

- N.G.

Okay in light of it being Thanksgiving and I know I have been a real prick lately I would like to do this for all of you guys out there. Consider it my appreciation for your cooperation.

The freeze on claiming is lifted as we have like two nations remaining that need to key in and if they don't by tomorrow than walla they are gone.

RomeW: You have Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai, and the Dagestan Republic added.

BitingReality: You have Astrakhan Oblast, Rostov Oblast, and Volgograd Oblast added.

Casana: That section of the Yucatán is yours.


Dagestan Republic?

Did you take out all those extra nations on the map as well?

Dagestan Republic?

Did you take out all those extra nations on the map as well?

Yah RomeW wanted those three territories down there in Russia. Yes I did take out those extra nations but the darn server is down so I cannot upload the stupid maps :(.

North Germania: Got it.

Yah RomeW wanted those three territories down there in Russia. Yes I did take out those extra nations but the darn server is down so I cannot upload the stupid maps :(.

OH GNOME!(See? Gnome instead of "no".

Clever, aint i?)

OH GNOME!(See? Gnome instead of "no".

Clever, aint i?)

LOL. You're on your way to being the official comedian of Earth II.

North Germania also claims the state of Alabama, U.S. and Baffin Island, Canada.

- N.G.

North Germania also claims the state of Alabama, U.S. and Baffin Island, Canada.

- N.G.

Oki Doki.

In light of this I am going to celebrate and claim something myself.

The Empire of Layarteb further extends its claim into the following:

Honduras, Belize, El Salvador, and Guatamala