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'Earth II' - Revitalization - Page 2

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Liebermonk
26-11-2004, 05:22
The nation of Liebermonk would like to yet again, as we did in Earth I and Earth II originally on the land of Liechenstein.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 05:29
Layartebian Empire Expands (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376572)
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 05:31
The nation of Liebermonk would like to yet again, as we did in Earth I and Earth II originally on the land of Liechenstein.

And are you still in Earth I?
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 05:37
Earth II - Revitalization Legitimacy in Full: I just got this telegram from the old thread owner!

ello friend.

This is Yerffej (y'know, the country that orginially began 'Earth II'). Well, I saw your new (well, I guess it's not so new anymore) thread concerning Earth II, and I love what you're doing with it. I was just popping in to let you know that some RL situations kept me out of the game for awhile, and I lost Yerffej (I am in the process of getting it back). Anyway, if you ever need any help with managing the thread, drop me a TG, and I'll do what I can. It seems that you have everything under control for the moment (its easily the best version of Earth at the moment). Fine job. Keep it up.

Jeff
Colodia
26-11-2004, 05:48
Great, but perhaps this is my paranoia speaking, but how are we sure that that is Yerffej? Not that it makes sense for someone to fake him, but...
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 05:50
Great, but perhaps this is my paranoia speaking, but how are we sure that that is Yerffej? Not that it makes sense for someone to fake him, but...

Ye bring up a valid point. How can we be sure is right. We cannot be totally sure but we should take it as a burden of proof insomuchas, until we caste the doubt, it is who he is. Make sense? Probably not.
Liebermonk
26-11-2004, 05:50
And are you still in Earth I?

We were in Earth I at a time, however I am not sure of our status there anymore. But I would like to retain this land, this time.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 05:53
We were in Earth I at a time, however I am not sure of our status there anymore. But I would like to retain this land, this time.


Seventh, from this moment on, all nations that are not in Earth II and come into Earth II cannot be part of another Earth. Those nations already in Earth II and have a claim elsewhere in another Earth will be the only ones who can take part in this. I will not penalize them but new members from this post (#181) onward WILL NOT BE allowed to have multiple Earth claims regardless of puppet.

Well if you are still in Earth I you cannot claim land here. Check into that and let me know. If you aren't in Earth I any more the claim is yours. I'll hold it until you have everything sorted out.
North Germania
26-11-2004, 06:02
I am officially declaring nuclear war on Liebermonk. As of now, 22364653795873486734783736 nookleeur ICBMS R ging twards him!!!11 they hvae a yield of 6,000,000,000,000 megatons EACH!!!!





HAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 06:07
I am officially declaring nuclear war on Liebermonk. As of now, 22364653795873486734783736 nookleeur ICBMS R ging twards him!!!11 they hvae a yield of 6,000,000,000,000 megatons EACH!!!!





HAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL it's comedy hour!
Colodia
26-11-2004, 07:07
I am officially declaring nuclear war on Liebermonk. As of now, 22364653795873486734783736 nookleeur ICBMS R ging twards him!!!11 they hvae a yield of 6,000,000,000,000 megatons EACH!!!!





HAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our nation jumps in crossfire and deflects all nooks1
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 08:23
We were in Earth I at a time, however I am not sure of our status there anymore. But I would like to retain this land, this time.

No I see that Guffingford claims Liechtenstein so it's yours in Earth II.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 08:33
Maps uploaded. Bed time.
EuropeanSoviet
26-11-2004, 08:51
My nation want his part of Earth II if it's possible.

The problem is if we don't have a part of this Earth we must declared the WAR. I hope you work about my question, my population don't accept a negative answer, you have 4 days.

Thank you
General Commander of EuropeanSoviet
Jed Leplang
<<~~>>
Rome West
26-11-2004, 08:51
Layarteb you can renounce the BitingReality claim. That was the other nation I was talking about.

(Or you can add it to my nation...)

EDIT- In my defence, I made the claim before the rule regarding multiple nations came into place (thinking I could do it- then I thought of asking), and, now that it's there, I want to renounce the other claim as I have no intention of subverting the rule.
EuropeanSoviet
26-11-2004, 08:59
me ?
Colodia
26-11-2004, 09:20
My nation want his part of Earth II if it's possible.

The problem is if we don't have a part of this Earth we must declared the WAR. I hope you work about my question, my population don't accept a negative answer, you have 4 days.

Thank you
General Commander of EuropeanSoviet
Jed Leplang
<<~~>>
Erm, anyone can come in and claim without the need of war. Now I just don't know what to say after this...never had to deal with this before...
Rome West
26-11-2004, 11:00
I've noticed a couple other territories that I want that have been unclaimed:

(in order of how much I want them):

-Sardinia
-Sicily (I'd like these two anyway because if we're following proper political boundaries then they should be included with "Italy" as they are part of the real Italian country)
-Syria
-Jordan
-Crete
-Tunisia
-W. Iraq

I am willing to do two things if the above new claims are unacceptable:

1) I can exchange my Russian claims for all of those territories above (the total land area (including Italy and Switzerland) is roughly 467K square miles)

OR

2) I will RP them all out (although it'll have to be on Monday as I will be gone for the weekend).

All of my claims (Italy, Switzerland, Stavropol Kray, Dagestan, Krasnodor Kray, Sardinia, Sicily, Jordan, Syria, Crete, Tunisia and Western Iraq) are less than 500,000 square miles in total, so I do not think there should be any problem with my request.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 16:28
My nation want his part of Earth II if it's possible.

The problem is if we don't have a part of this Earth we must declared the WAR. I hope you work about my question, my population don't accept a negative answer, you have 4 days.

Thank you
General Commander of EuropeanSoviet
Jed Leplang
<<~~>>

1. We do not respond to threats here.
2. I can barely understand what you are trying to say.
3. No. And any declaration of war will just be ignored.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 16:30
I've noticed a couple other territories that I want that have been unclaimed:

(in order of how much I want them):

-Sardinia
-Sicily (I'd like these two anyway because if we're following proper political boundaries then they should be included with "Italy" as they are part of the real Italian country)
-Syria
-Jordan
-Crete
-Tunisia
-W. Iraq

I am willing to do two things if the above new claims are unacceptable:

1) I can exchange my Russian claims for all of those territories above (the total land area (including Italy and Switzerland) is roughly 467K square miles)

OR

2) I will RP them all out (although it'll have to be on Monday as I will be gone for the weekend).

All of my claims (Italy, Switzerland, Stavropol Kray, Dagestan, Krasnodor Kray, Sardinia, Sicily, Jordan, Syria, Crete, Tunisia and Western Iraq) are less than 500,000 square miles in total, so I do not think there should be any problem with my request.

You are, however, trying to get into Earth III, which limits you to 150,000 sq. mi. as a puppet here. And ye are over that limit.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7555295&postcount=61

Dagestan 19,420.94
Italy 116,305.60
Krasnodar Krai 29,343.76
Stavropol Krai 25,675.79
Switzerland 15,940.23
Total 206,686.32
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 17:39
The deadline fast approaches. 20 minutes!!!
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 17:57
3 minute warning!!!
Cotland
26-11-2004, 18:18
Cotland would like to claim Tunisia. It wasn't listed in the first page, so I want it if I may.

Rothsky
Elected Leader of the Free Land of Cotland
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 18:19
Yes you may.
Cotland
26-11-2004, 18:20
Thank you very much! :D :D

Africa, here I come. :cool:
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 18:25
Thank you very much! :D :D

Africa, here I come. :cool:

Keep in mind that your population limits you to under 500,000 square miles.
Shillonia
26-11-2004, 18:29
I will now claim Malawi.
Cotland
26-11-2004, 18:30
Keep in mind that your population limits you to under 500,000 square miles.

No problem. Just out of curiousity... how large is Tunisia really?
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 18:30
No problem. Just out of curiousity... how large is Tunisia really?

63,170.17 square miles.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 18:31
That's it, the time limit is up. I've granted a 30 minute extra buffer but it was not used. I'm sorry but if you are no longer in Earth II because you were part of another Earth then that is your home. Otherwise, you can renounce your claims there and rejoin Earth II but regaining your territory will have to be done from what is still available. I gave ample warning and sent out a slew of TGs to everyone on the list who was in violation. Time is time and time has expired.

Claims are updated
Maps are updated
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 18:38
I will now claim Malawi.

Added
Marimaia
26-11-2004, 19:41
I know I'm probably being cheeky, but would it be possible for me to have Japan?

I'll RP for it if you want, and if you think it's fair I'll trade in my current claims (Thailand, Laos and Cambodia) for it.

Anyhoo, it's up to you. Just thought I'd ask.
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 19:48
Id like to claim India, Bangladesh, Bhutan, and Burma please.

Take away as many of my Africa claims as you need to, even if that means ALL of em. I want that area.
Cotland
26-11-2004, 20:03
Seeing that Sicily is not claimed by anyone, I, Rothsky, want to claim Sicily for Cotland.
Rome West
26-11-2004, 20:47
Layarteb:

If I renounce my claims on Earth III (as I am thinking of doing because I have everything I want on Earth II) can you add to my territories here?
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 20:51
Layarteb:

If I renounce my claims on Earth III (as I am thinking of doing because I have everything I want on Earth II) can you add to my territories here?

If no one else has them.(thats what Layarteb would say.)

Anyhoo, if not, im giving up my Libya claim(so that i can get India, Bhutan, Bangladesh, and Burma/Myanmar), so central west africa will be open to all.
Rome West
26-11-2004, 20:59
Well then, I'm giving up Earth III to make the following claims:

-Sardinia
-Syria
-W. Iraq
-Jordan
-Crete
-The northern half of Libya (seeing how it's unclaimed now- and I would like to claim as much as I am allowed to from the coastline, keeping in mind I'm a recreated 1.7B nation)
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 21:01
Well then, I'm giving up Earth III to make the following claims:

-Sardinia
-Syria
-W. Iraq
-Jordan
-Crete
-The northern half of Libya (seeing how it's unclaimed now)

Layarteb hasnt made it offical yet, but i support your claim of northern Libya.
Rome West
26-11-2004, 21:07
Thank you The Lightning Star. As soon as you said you were giving it up I had to pounce...I'm trying to reclaim as much of the old Roman Empire that I can.

EDIT- I should say from here on in I will be gone until Monday, so I won't be able to reply to this thread- but my new claims are still being requested.
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 21:11
Thank you The Lightning Star. As soon as you said you were giving it up I had to pounce...I'm trying to reclaim as much of the old Roman Empire that I can.

EDIT- I should say from here on in I will be gone until Monday, so I won't be able to reply to this thread- but my new claims are still being requested.

If Layarteb doesnt get to them ill remind him ;).

Have fun wherever you are going/doing!
Cotland
26-11-2004, 21:51
Well then, I'm giving up Earth III to make the following claims:

-Sardinia
-Syria
-W. Iraq
-Jordan
-Crete
-The northern half of Libya (seeing how it's unclaimed now- and I would like to claim as much as I am allowed to from the coastline, keeping in mind I'm a recreated 1.7B nation)

I support your claim as well, and hope to see you as a neighbour in the nearest future.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 22:43
Marimaia: Japan is yours and you don't need to give anything up.

The Lightning Star: This is what you are NOW looking at.

Bangladesh: 55,598.71
Bhutan: 18,146.80
India: 1,269,346.00
Myanmar: 261,970.30
Pakistan: 166,535.00
Total: 1,771,596.81

If you want this

Cotland: Yes Sicily is yours.

Rome West: First off what are you using RomeW or Rome West? I need you to make up your mind on those. Secondly, all of those claims are available and you have them.
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 22:52
The Lightning Star: This is what you are NOW looking at.

Bangladesh: 55,598.71
Bhutan: 18,146.80
India: 1,269,346.00
Myanmar: 261,970.30
Pakistan: 166,535.00
Total: 1,771,596.81

If you want this


Ill take it!
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 22:53
Ill take Sri LAnka too.
Layarteb
26-11-2004, 22:56
Adds another 25,332.10 so you're okay. Still under 1.8m.
The Lightning Star
26-11-2004, 23:01
Adds another 25,332.10 so you're okay. Still under 1.8m.

Mmkay. Thats all i need.

For now.
Marimaia
26-11-2004, 23:43
Marimaia: Japan is yours and you don't need to give anything up.

Much appreciated; thanks.
Nikolaos The Great
27-11-2004, 00:04
Well then, I'm giving up Earth III to make the following claims:

-Sardinia
-Syria
-W. Iraq
-Jordan
-Crete
-The northern half of Libya (seeing how it's unclaimed now- and I would like to claim as much as I am allowed to from the coastline, keeping in mind I'm a recreated 1.7B nation)
I have a claim on Greece which Crete is an island of Greece.
Layarteb
27-11-2004, 00:06
Yep my bad. Sorry.
The Lightning Star
27-11-2004, 00:17
I have a claim on Greece which Crete is an island of Greece.

This is off topic, but check the alliance forums.
(this in no way is a response to his statement. Just a statement to him.)
Layarteb
27-11-2004, 00:24
That's alright I allow OT here...
The Lightning Star
27-11-2004, 00:25
That's alright I allow OT here...

Mmmkay.
Celtayoshi
27-11-2004, 19:35
Layarteb, could you tg me the total size of my territory, thanks
Layarteb
28-11-2004, 04:20
Sent...
Baltic Karelia
28-11-2004, 20:46
I've noticed that IDF's claim on Israel and Indiana still is on the list. You may have missed that he has a secondary claim in Chellist Earth I listing (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779).

I just thinks that the same rules should apply for all. :)
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 00:32
I control all of Indiana, since I have IDF on ignore and he has me on ignore, we don't recognize each others claims, this mutual ignore is very well-known in the NS world, so it would seem

Anyway, he only ever had the two northern most extreme counties on Indiana.


And since I don't recognize anything RP wise that happened between my nation and his, he doesn't exist to own the land I once gave to him, thus I have that land still.
New Jyria
29-11-2004, 03:52
Alas, I was RPing for Venezuela, but I lost interest. Oh well, it will fair better in the hands of Layerteb anyhow.

Unless you would sell it to me... :D :D :D
Teh ninjas
29-11-2004, 04:51
Ok, now seeing Brydogs claim to Sierra-Leone, would it be possible for me to claim Senegal? It's an African nation, 10 Million in population. I desperately need an African nation were I could anchor my fleets, and protect my inland claim of Burundi. Would this be possible or would I have to RP for my claim? Thanks.
Rome West
29-11-2004, 06:48
Regarding Crete: Nikolas, if we can, would we be able to work something out so that I can keep the island? I am interested in establishing relations with our countries, so I intend on being completely peaceful in my operations on the island.

Layarteb: For the record, I created "Rome West" to serve as a continuation of "RomeW" with different stats (I wanted to lower RomeW's tax rate but the issues were not playing out right so I created "Rome West"). I will be posting with this nation, however, though I intend it as "RomeW" but with different stats. Regardless, I don't believe I'm above 500K square miles anyway.
Colodia
29-11-2004, 07:12
A new Earth has popped up, Earth BC. Remember, Earth II users are not allowed to have land on other Earths, even if it's in the same spot 2,000 years ago. Gah, space-time physics and stuff...
The Lightning Star
29-11-2004, 07:20
A new Earth has popped up, Earth BC. Remember, Earth II users are not allowed to have land on other Earths, even if it's in the same spot 2,000 years ago. Gah, space-time physics and stuff...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7579506&posted=1#post7579506

THEN WHY THE HELL DID YOU POST THE LINK HERE?!!?!?!?!??!?!

Jeez!
Colodia
29-11-2004, 07:33
Keeping the link there doesn't help tLS...
Andrehervia
29-11-2004, 09:24
If anyone's interested, I'm planning a character-based RP based in Andrehervian Slovakia in which a nuclear reactor has exploded (think Chernobyl) and documents the resulting fracas between Andrehervia and neighbouring countries that slowly find out about the disaster, along with families contaminated by the radiation emitted. It's essentially a work in progress so if anyone's interested TG me.

Bump again. Come on. Someone out there must care about this in some way. Anyone?
Baltic Karelia
29-11-2004, 14:09
A new thread: Forming the nation of Baltic Karelia.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377431
Dragonryders
29-11-2004, 20:13
Dragonryders decided to settle in South-East Mongolia. Can we claim the land to build our cities?
http://imagecup.com/albums/userpics/SE-Mongolia.gif
Rome West
29-11-2004, 20:16
New thread:

The Roman Confederacy Forms (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7583257#post7583257)
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 07:51
Fair warning!!!

What I don't know can't hurt you. But if I find out, then there is no mercy!!!

Baltic Karelia: IDF told me that he would renounce his other-worldly territories. If he hasn't done so it's just a little few lines that I have to edit.

Teh ninjas: Senegal is yours.

Rome West: Yes you are over 500,000. Here is your breakdown.

Dagestan: 19,420.94
Iraq (west): 40,501.08
Italy: 116,305.60
Jordan: 35,637.23
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya (north): 339,681.10
Sardinia: 9,301.20
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Total: 703,305.33

Colodia: We'll have to watch this Earth BC. Jesus how many Earths are they going to make!

Andrehervia: Start up an RP and see if people post? I can put it up on the RP claims list if you include it here and make sure you put [Earth II] in the title so people know what it is.

Dragonryders: Welcome to Earth II. You aren't in any other Earths are you? If so I suggest you re-read the initial post. Mongolia Provinces (http://www.statoids.com/umn.html).
Dragonryders
30-11-2004, 09:14
Thank ye very much, and no, I'm not in any other Earth.

I showed you the map, but these are the names of the provinces: Arhangay, Bayanhongor, Darhan-Uul, Dornod, Dornogovi, Dundgovi, Govisumber, Hentiy, Ömnögovi, Orhon, Övörhangay, Selenge, Suhbaatar, Töv, Uulanbaatar.

That's a total of 999560 sq.km (How neat is that?!)
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 17:06
Yeah I included the provinces and the square miles. That is there for future reference if you want to just expand into a single province, etc. It's also for my reference (as is with the Pakistan one a few pages back).
Rome West
30-11-2004, 17:17
So, am I in violation of the land rule because I post as this nation, even though it's supposed to be my old nation with different stats?
Cotland
30-11-2004, 17:17
OOC: sorry for bugging you, but i don't see sicily listed as my territory...
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 17:22
So, am I in violation of the land rule because I post as this nation, even though it's supposed to be my old nation with different stats?

Yep.

Cotland: It's going up now.
Rome West
30-11-2004, 17:28
So I can't have that territory under "RomeW" and post as this nation, which is supposed to be that nation with a new government?
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 17:30
I can't just recreate my nation?

You can but as far as expanding into territories further, until you catch up, is a no-no.
Rome West
30-11-2004, 17:35
However, if I decide to use "RomeW" instead I could expand and keep the territory I have?
Cotland
30-11-2004, 17:43
We in Cotland wish to claim the Faroe Islands under the Cottish flag.
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 17:45
However, if I decide to use "RomeW" instead I could expand and keep the territory I have?

No, pick one or the other and use just that. No claiming under a giant nation to avoid a freeze and then use the small nation to RP.

Cotland: Ok.
RomeW
30-11-2004, 17:55
Then I'm keeping this one.
Layarteb
30-11-2004, 18:02
Noted.
The Rim League
30-11-2004, 23:17
I don't see a claim for Sweden so I would like to claim it.
RomeW
01-12-2004, 00:21
I'd like to add to my territory (I believe this will get me to the limit):

-Southern California
-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas

I will RP them out later.
RomeV
01-12-2004, 00:36
I'd like to add to my territory (I believe this will get me to the limit):

-Southern California
-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas

I will RP them out later.

This is going to the nation I'm using for the forums from now on (and this is the last time I'm changing my nation- I promise). It has a similar population figure (1.741 billion- it's an old puppet I had) to RomeW.
Hogsweat
01-12-2004, 19:38
Didn't Praetonia have Japan? I believe i bought it from him.
Praetonia
01-12-2004, 19:46
Indeed. I had Japan, then me and Latyreb had a conversation on AIM and I quit Earth II, leaving the Falklands to anyone who wanted it and selling Japan to Hogsweat, and you agreed to that. Why does this "Marimaia" have it?
Marimaia
01-12-2004, 23:27
Indeed. I had Japan, then me and Latyreb had a conversation on AIM and I quit Earth II, leaving the Falklands to anyone who wanted it and selling Japan to Hogsweat, and you agreed to that. Why does this "Marimaia" have it?

Layarteb gave a deadline, at the end of which all nations who either kept territories on other Earths or were quitting Earth II would be put up for fresh claims. I saw that Japan was unclaimed, and Layarteb agreed to my claim. I knew nothing of this AIM discussion or anything else like that.

Oh, BTW, how would you like it if someone said "What is this 'Praetonia' doing here?" Sounds slightly rude, don't you think?
RomeW
01-12-2004, 23:39
This is going to the nation I'm using for the forums from now on (and this is the last time I'm changing my nation- I promise). It has a similar population figure (1.741 billion- it's an old puppet I had) to RomeW.

Okay, I lied. I'm back to using this nation (I feel like what George W. Bush called John Kerry- the "flip-flopper". Oh well).
RomeW
02-12-2004, 00:18
I'd like to add to my territory (I believe this will get me to the limit):

-Southern California
-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas

I will RP them out later.

I have edited the claims:

-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas
-A tiny strip of land that connects the cities of Ciuidad Juarez, Tucson, Phoenix, Mexicali, Tijuana, San Diego and Los Angeles
(Source: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/americas/north_america_ref01.jpg )
-Louisiana

Would I be able to find out after making these claims how much land I have left to take?
RomeW
02-12-2004, 01:46
Update:

This is my annexation of my new claims:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7601848#post7601848
Braska
02-12-2004, 05:21
Hi everyone. I'm a first timer here at the forums, and I want to claim some land so I can have a base to roleplay from. I saw Earth II, and I thought it's worth a try. I'd like to know if I can occupy some land here? I want to learn how to roleplay in this game, and I figure if I have some kind of land, I'd be able to start learning.

If accepted, I would like to know what you guys recommend I occupy? I have a few lands in mind. Any one of these will be good for me. Mexico, Greenland, Alaska, or a part of Antarctica would be great. Also can I get more lands in the future if I invade lands?

I have a population of over 500 million, and the reason why I decided I wanted to try out roleplaying is because I've been reading the forums lately and there's some things and stories I'd like to try participating in. Thank you for taking your time to read this, and hopefully I can get some land to start roleplaying in.
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 05:45
Praetoria & Hogsweat: I agreed to it on the basis that you would post and inform everyone and show proof that you did sell it to Hogsweat. Nobody responded so it went bye-bye.

Rim League: You got it.

RomeW: Okay I got (sort of) what you want here except for that tiny strip of land part. Here is what I have thus far:

California (south): 79,150.96
Dagestan: 19,420.94
Iraq (west): 40,501.08
Italy: 116,305.60
Jordan: 35,637.23
Krasnodar Krai: 29,343.76
Libya: 679,362.20
Louisiana: 51,885.18
Niger: 489,191.40
Sardinia: 9,301.20
Stavropol Krai: 25,675.79
Switzerland: 15,940.23
Syria: 71,498.40
Texas: 268,820.20
Total: 1,932,034.17

Braska: Yeah you have a pop of 528M so you can claim up to 1,000,000 square miles. You can claim and invade what you want in that range but until you reach 1.0B people you cannot exceed 1M sq. mi.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 05:48
Repost of the claims:

-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas
-A tiny strip of land that connects the cities of Ciuidad Juarez, Tucson, Phoenix, Mexicali, Tijuana, San Diego and Los Angeles
-Louisiana

Would I be able to find out after making these claims how much land I have left to take?

EDIT- The thread:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...848#post7601848

(Romans annex SW US, restore order- this RP is now CLOSED)
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 05:58
Repost of the claims:

-Southern Libya
-Niger
-Texas
-A tiny strip of land that connects the cities of Ciuidad Juarez, Tucson, Phoenix, Mexicali, Tijuana, San Diego and Los Angeles
-Louisiana

Would I be able to find out after making these claims how much land I have left to take?

EDIT- The thread:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...848#post7601848

(Romans annex SW US, restore order- this RP is now CLOSED)

See post 340.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 06:03
So, can I have all of it then?
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 06:06
So, can I have all of it then?

Yeah but I still don't understand your SW claim. If you add Arizona it'll go over but you can squeeze in southern Nevada, which is only 16,585.02 square miles.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 06:20
This is the map of it:

http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/USMap.jpg

I'm really just interested in the cities (Phoenix, Los Angeles, and San Diego in particular), so I'm just trying to find a way to combine them all.
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 06:27
You got me on this one. I can't possibly calculate the SQ.MI. for that area.
Colodia
02-12-2004, 06:29
You got me on this one. I can't possibly calculate the SQ.MI. for that area.
ehh....We can estimate?

I haven't driven from L.A. to Phoenix, so I can't really figure it out myself. But it should be way under 10,000 eh?
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 06:39
Definitely will be under 10,000, there isn't a doubt. How wide is the path RomeW?
RomeW
02-12-2004, 06:46
The path is no more than 50mi., but it can be adjusted so I can fit the claims in. I probably don't need more than 10mi. outside of the cities so that I can set up roads to the cities.
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 06:47
Alright I'll figure this out tomorrow, it's nearing 0100 and I have to go to school tomorrow and after 9 hours of work tonight, I'm tired.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 07:03
First of all, I renounce my Mexicali and Ciudad Juarez claims because it's just too complicated to figure out.

Okay, here are the driving distances from MapQuest (roughly):

-Los Angeles to San Diego: 121mi.
-(Estimate from San Diego to Tijuana: 40mi.)
-Los Angeles to El Paso (covers the rest of the cities in the claim): 803mi.

Total driving distance: 963mi. Since I require a 5 mi. wide path for road/rail construction, 963x5= 4815sq.mi.

This is the total square miles for the cities in question:

Tucson: 70
Phoenix: 430
Los Angeles (metro): 1000
Tijuana: 89
San Diego (county): 374

Total: 1963 sq.mi.

1963sq.mi.+4815sq.mi.=6778sq.mi. total
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 07:04
That worked to my advantage ;).
RomeW
02-12-2004, 07:07
How so?
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 07:07
You did the calculation. Also could you just update your picture so that I can accurately paint the map.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 07:12
Sure.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 07:15
The picture has been updated (Note: it's just a rough sketch to point out the general area)

Also, Layarteb, could you put on the claims page that Tucson, Phoenix and Tijuana, as well as a path to each, have been taken?
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 07:37
Will do tomorrow but it's reserved for you so don't worry no one is going to take it.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 08:14
Will do.
Cotland
02-12-2004, 10:27
The Free Land of Cotland wish to claim the Falklands for the Free Land of Cotland.
Hogsweat
02-12-2004, 17:14
Layarteb, Marimaia: alright then. I'd like to claim the Falklands, in that case. And Kuwait.
Pergast
02-12-2004, 17:23
Pergast claims Saxony (German State), and in the following thread; http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378246 has invaded and nabbed Bavaria (Neighbouring State).

http://usera.imagecave.com/Pergast/Pergast/SaxonyMap.bmp.jpg
Hogsweat
02-12-2004, 18:45
Oh, I'd also like the rest of Saudi and Iraq :P
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 18:59
Pergast claims Saxony (German State), and in the following thread; http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378246 has invaded and nabbed Bavaria (Neighbouring State).

http://usera.imagecave.com/Pergast/Pergast/SaxonyMap.bmp.jpg

Reading is a necessary skill for all future generations.
Cotland
02-12-2004, 19:11
Layarteb, Marimaia: alright then. I'd like to claim the Falklands, in that case. And Kuwait.
I believe that I already have claimed the Falklands (post #359)!
Layarteb
02-12-2004, 19:14
Indeed you did. Now given the contestation, I would ask you two to please work it out amongst yourselves if you are going to do what, etc.
RomeW
02-12-2004, 21:55
I'd also like to know if there is any interest in having an "Earth II History" prepared, as I am interested in compiling one. I don't have a lot of time right now, but perhaps later in the month or maybe even in the new year (funny how close that is...)?
Hogsweat
02-12-2004, 22:05
Ah, he did it just before me... Well, I propose that I take Western Falklands and he takes Eastern, or vice versa. Or we could fight over it, or he could be a bad sport and just take it :P (which I have no qualms with)
RomeW
02-12-2004, 22:35
Ah, he did it just before me... Well, I propose that I take Western Falklands and he takes Eastern, or vice versa.

Technically speaking, I'd say that Cotland has it legitimately- your post came a full seven hours after his did, so he could (rightly) argue that you have no excuse for not seeing the post.

Having said that, a division along those lines would be the best compromise.
Cotland
02-12-2004, 23:36
After negotiations between Cotland and Hogsweat, it has been decided to split the Falklands in the middle, more presicely in the middle of the Falklands Sound, with Cotland taking the eastern part (which contains the capitol and the only port in the Falklands :) ), and Hogsweat taking the western part.

Therefor, on behalf of the Free Land of Cotland, and agreed to peacefully, I claim East Falkland for Cotland. *rises the Cottish flag over Stanley* :D

We also want to thank our ally, RomeW, for the kind words in favor of Cotland. We hereby invite you to open an embassy in our capitol, Tunis.
RomeW
03-12-2004, 00:08
We also want to thank our ally, RomeW, for the kind words in favor of Cotland. We hereby invite you to open an embassy in our capitol, Tunis.

We accept the invitation and invite you to do the same in our nation.
Tyrandis
03-12-2004, 00:33
Invaded Oregon and Washington.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7609452
Layarteb
03-12-2004, 03:15
Hogsweat and Cotland: Good job, that's exactly what I want to see, RP'ing for territories. Good job men. I'll split them in half for you gents and we'll see what the future brings shant we?

RomeW: An Earth II History? I think that's a FINE idea! Let me know what you compile and what information you need from me.

Tyrandis: You have been redflagged prior to this because of your immense size and small population. I notified you and you were aware of it at the time. Perhaps you forgot.

Australia: 2,967,909.00
Dem. Rep. of Congo: 905,567.90
New Zealand: 103,737.90
Total: 3,977,214.80

You need a population of over 3.0b for a land area that size so until you catch up, you're solid as is unless you want to give up territory and this and that.
Tyrandis
03-12-2004, 03:35
Tyrandis: You have been redflagged prior to this because of your immense size and small population. I notified you and you were aware of it at the time. Perhaps you forgot.

Australia: 2,967,909.00
Dem. Rep. of Congo: 905,567.90
New Zealand: 103,737.90
Total: 3,977,214.80

You need a population of over 3.0b for a land area that size so until you catch up, you're solid as is unless you want to give up territory and this and that.

Colodia told me that as long as I RPed for the land, I could claim it.
Layarteb
03-12-2004, 03:37
Colodia told me that as long as I RPed for the land, I could claim it.

I'll have to double check with him on that one.
Colodia
03-12-2004, 06:08
Apologies Layarteb, I was unclear as to how the whole new system was working.

Although I'm pretty sure I Tyrandis to check up on Layarteb in my reply back to him since I knew I wasn't too clear.
Layarteb
03-12-2004, 07:13
Well, in light of the technicality I imagine we have to give it to him?
RomeW
03-12-2004, 10:07
RomeW: An Earth II History? I think that's a FINE idea! Let me know what you compile and what information you need from me.


Well, we'd need to establish a few things first:

-Are there any major events that affected several nations or even the whole world (like, for example, the World Wars)?
-When did all of our countries appear?
-How did they form?
-Who did they gain independence from, if they needed to gain independence from anyone?

Those last three points I'd need from the nations directly, as well as comprehensive a history as they would like to provide of their nation (well, not completely comprehensive...no more than a page single-spaced with 12 point font please). Nations should also work out beforehand with other nations as to any possible conflicts that arose between the nations, and how, when or even if that conflict has been resolved.
Praetonia
03-12-2004, 10:35
Praetoria & Hogsweat: I agreed to it on the basis that you would post and inform everyone and show proof that you did sell it to Hogsweat. Nobody responded so it went bye-bye.

You did NOT say that. You said "ok" or some such like, and then I quit the conversation.
RomeW
03-12-2004, 10:59
Well, in light of the technicality I imagine we have to give it to him?

As a suggestion, you could probably just give Tyrandis the territory anyway (since Colodia agreed to it and as most of Australia is desert) but make no more exceptions. It doesn't really look good to say that you have territorial restrictions and then not enforce them.
Cotland
03-12-2004, 12:19
We accept the invitation and invite you to do the same in our nation.
We thank RomeW for this most gracious offer, and accept. We will offer you a standard embassy in Tunis. If you have any special requests, please let me know. We will announce who we'll post as ambassador in your country soon.
Cotland
03-12-2004, 12:49
The Free Land of Cotland wish to claim Gambia in Africa for ours.
Layarteb
03-12-2004, 16:27
You did NOT say that. You said "ok" or some such like, and then I quit the conversation.

You saw only what you wanted to hear. I asked you to have him or have yourself post in the thread that Japan was given to Hogsweat. That's standard practice anyway. How can you sell a country and not tell anyone about it and then wonder why nobody knows?

I'll deal with the claims later, just checking in briefly
RomeW
03-12-2004, 22:51
I don't mean to bug you, but the maps have not been updated.
Cotland
03-12-2004, 23:25
*****bump*****
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:01
*puts artillery in falklands*

I'm not massing for an assault. Honestly. *looks around*
Yoboland
04-12-2004, 00:11
Can I take Crete Just looking at the maps its free...
Is that okay?
Cotland
04-12-2004, 00:12
*puts artillery in falklands*

I'm not massing for an assault. Honestly. *looks around*

The Parliament has followed your armament of the Falklands via satelite surveilance, and are worried about your arming the island. In response to the military build-up, we have dispatched naval units in addition to an infantry division and several fighter squadrons. The anti-aircraft and land defence systems are being brought online as we speak. This is merely a precausion, in the unlikely case that you are planning to open hostilities with anyone.

We wish to create a treaty of non-aggresion between both our great nations to ensure that peace prevails.
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:14
Wooow calm down, I was joking :P

I can vouch for Yoboland - I know his nation died last time - but his PC crashed. I know his password too so that his nation won't die ; ) I'll prod him into RPing often : P
Yoboland
04-12-2004, 00:15
Thanks for the back up... I can RP honest ;)

Just haven't got much experience...
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:17
^^

Layarteb: Wanna add this to the list of RP?S
Liberation of Asia (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7617986#post7617986)
Cotland
04-12-2004, 00:17
ok. still, how about that non-aggression pact?
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:18
*nods* sounds good.
Anagonia
04-12-2004, 00:22
I would LOVE to join Earth II, but I dunno whats left O.o
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:28
Talk to me on AIM.
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 00:33
Layarteb: Can Anagonia have half of my Antarctica? thanks.
Anagonia
04-12-2004, 00:33
Talk to me on AIM.

Thanks Hogsweat! Half of Antartica isn't bad..

EDIT:

If possible, I'd LIKE the Antartic territory nearest to Hogsweats territory...open one that is...here is my population:

1.595 billion
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 00:55
First off, my apologies if this has been answered elesewhere, though I didn't see anything relating to it specifically.

Can I make a claim with Skeelzania for Earth II, but RP the Earth II SKZ differently from my normal SKZ, which is a future-tech nation, or would this count as having a nation in multiple 'earths'. If yes, the Earth II SKZ would of course be modern-tech.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 01:17
RomeW: Maps updated with your southwest corridor added. How do you want to go about asking people for what you require for the history. Perhaps e-mail? You could have everyone interested TG you and then provide maybe an e-mail, this way its still kept to those who are interested and you don't have yoru e-mail floating around.

Hogsweat: I added Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia to you and updated the map.

Tyrandis: I know what Colodia said but we've got a major problem. 4.0m square miles was the ultimate limit and you were already flagged for population, something I told you and now you are in excess of 4.0m. Something has to be changed. And Colodia says he told you to check with me and you didn't.

Australia: 2,967,909.00
Dem. Rep. of Congo: 905,567.90
New Zealand: 103,737.90
Oregon: 98,466.09
Washington: 71,360.95
Total: 4,147,041.84

Colodia: That's alright. Hell if you told him to check with me and he didn't then that's his loss. He can reach the posts in the very beginning and I did tell him through TG about his overbearing the limit.

Cotland: Gambia has been added.

Yoboland: Crete being part of Greece is claimed and it is claimed on the map.

Hogsweat & Cotland: Do the RP'ing in a separate thread please. I want to keep this for claiming and such of the lines. I'll add the RP to the list as usual.

Skeelzania: No the nation you claim with is the nation you RP with. I went through that with RomeW and will not again.

Anagonia: Your being part of Earth VI inhibits you from being part of Earth II as per the rules.
Hogsweat
04-12-2004, 01:20
Actually, remove Iraq and Kuwait from my list. Me and Tyrandis are dueling it out.
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 01:22
Skeelzania:[/b] No the nation you claim with is the nation you RP with. I went through that with RomeW and will not again.


Guess I'll have to go dig up one of my old nations, then wheedle a few counties away from RomeW. Thanks.
Anagonia
04-12-2004, 01:23
Anagonia: Your being part of Earth VI inhibits you from being part of Earth II as per the rules.

All Earth VI files, relations, and joining of it have been deleted and are now obsolete.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 01:25
Hogsweat: Alright. Let me know next time before I post the updates. LOL.

Skeelzania: Go for it.
Pergast
04-12-2004, 01:30
Hello? I did post a claim a while back...Post 361, I think. Just to let you know...Saxony and Bavaria, and I've landed paras in Algeria. Don't worry, I checked and it's not taken yet...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7614927
Anagonia
04-12-2004, 01:31
OFFICIAL DECLERATION

Herein let it be known that all Anagonian Ties, IRL or In Game, are now seperated from, and for, Earth VI. Therefore henceforth shall no RP with the name of Anagonia be said by Anagonia, be played by Anagonia, in the Earth VI Universe.

Henceforth any proclomation, decleration, or any said joinage of Earth VI by any other Nation, and Anagonia itself, is made Invalid. Therefore and from this time forth, shall Anagonia be free of Earth VI
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 01:34
Pergast: You need to read post 363 and then check out the claims because Germany is claimed, as in all of Germany.

Anagonia: Good enough for me. Any objections elsewhere?
Tyrandis
04-12-2004, 01:45
Alright then, I'll rescind my claims on Oregon on Washington.

However, can I just say I have major army/navy bases there?
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 01:52
It's unoccupied land at that point so if you want an outpost there and such you run a big risk of further conquering. What if a naiton lays claim to those territories. It will be there's and such. You will be in a very deep RP at that point.
Dragonryders
04-12-2004, 02:09
Two little things: 1. Check your spelling on Mongolia
2. Dragonryders is no longer on the map

No hurry though, I'm working on another project right now. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378602

It's an 'improved' Earth, but it has more emphasis on fair distribution and the bidding.
It's not launched yet. First I wanna know what people think of it.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:14
Well starting another Earth will knock you out of this one. BTW just fixed the map. Stupid saving wierdnesses...
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 02:15
You know, I'm getting a little paranoid that someone will snatch my counties. Hope you don't mind if I put in a preliminary submission:

The country I'll be using in Earth II is Far Tortuga, which should have a population of just under a billion. The Californian counties I want are the following:

Orange County
Imperial County
Riverside County
Los Angeles County (hoping to begin RP negotiations with RomeW soon)
San Diego County (same as LA)
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:17
I can but it's really fair game until you make it official.
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 02:19
I can but it's really fair game until you make it official.

Thats fine. Maybe it'll deter people from snatching them.
Dragonryders
04-12-2004, 02:21
Well starting another Earth will knock you out of this one. ...
I realized that, but I haven't started it yet, because it is a very timeconsuming project I think.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:22
Just FYI...
Pergast
04-12-2004, 02:28
Pergast: You need to read post 363 and then check out the claims because Germany is claimed, as in all of Germany.

Oh, dammit. Ah, shit, someone has Algeria too...Bollocks, I hadn't seen that...
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:31
A whole lot is still open...
Colodia
04-12-2004, 02:35
You know, I'm getting a little paranoid that someone will snatch my counties. Hope you don't mind if I put in a preliminary submission:

The country I'll be using in Earth II is Far Tortuga, which should have a population of just under a billion. The Californian counties I want are the following:

Orange County
Imperial County
Riverside County
Los Angeles County (hoping to begin RP negotiations with RomeW soon)
San Diego County (same as LA)
Meh...I live in Riverside county...
Pergast
04-12-2004, 02:40
No...my entire idea of Pergast was based on it being Saxony to begin with. Besides, I'm not wasting the Bavaria and Algeria rp's...To hell with Earth II, I'm going solo...But you tell me if whoever has Germany gives it up. Maybe I'll tg him, ask if he's willing to part with two states. I mean, he has Poland, too...
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 02:41
Meh...I live in Riverside county...

Orange county myself. I'll try not to work in too many 909 references.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:41
Do as ye please.
Generic empire
04-12-2004, 02:48
Well whaddaya know, I'm an E2 nation after all. Correction though, I no longer control Mozambique, save for a rather large port city, Antonium. The rest belongs to Wirraway and Borman Empire.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 02:49
Yes but neither of them are in Earth II.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 03:08
Earth II Forums? Really, where?

http://s4.invisionfree.com/Empire_of_Layarteb/index.php
Tyrandis
04-12-2004, 03:09
It's unoccupied land at that point so if you want an outpost there and such you run a big risk of further conquering. What if a naiton lays claim to those territories. It will be there's and such. You will be in a very deep RP at that point.

Meh. I just want a naval and airbase set up near the coast. If someone claims those territories and decides to try and dislodge me, let's just say there will be clouds of VX gas everywhere... ;)
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 03:25
Just so you know. Adjusted.
RomeW
04-12-2004, 05:41
(As an aside, Layarteb: should this be a seperate thread or should I leave it here? I want to maximize readership)

Okay, so since I'm running the history of Earth II, here's what I want from everyone interested:

-Write up a short history of your nation (no more than a page single-spaced)
-In that history, I want you to state when and how you got your independence (be reasonable with the time...don't say you got your independence in 630,000 BC (note: date is simply an example) because there were no humans back then). It must be either from a RL nation or a NS state that occupies territory on Earth II, but if it is the latter you MUST contact the NS state in question and agree to the parameters of your independence (by the way, "Rome" (and "Byzantium" for that matter) counts as a NS state (mine))
-Your history can include events that affected and/or involved other NS states, but you MUST contact those states and agree completely on how the event played out and what the effects were. (in short, if you include another NS state in your history you have to ensure that they know about it and agree to what happened, so there are no disputes and/or surprises)
-Should you decide to not participate it is assumed that your nation came into being within the last year (i.e. 2004)
-The deadline for submissions is January 31, 2005. After that, your nation will be assumed too young for the preliminary history. However, at the end of each year I will be adding to the history annals so it will be up to you to keep me informed of the events you want included in them (I can't read every thread)

Please TG me at my "RomeV" account if you are interested. Thanks.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 05:59
Have you seen the forums I made? You are the moderator there on the History thread. If you want you can conduct it there or start a new thread for the History, that would be easier and better, this thread might get cluttered way too fast with a history sub-thread going on.
RomeW
04-12-2004, 06:34
Have you seen the forums I made? You are the moderator there on the History thread. If you want you can conduct it there or start a new thread for the History, that would be easier and better, this thread might get cluttered way too fast with a history sub-thread going on.

I have seen them, yes, but I have made a thread (as you suggested) on NS to inform the Earth II nations:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7619905#post7619905
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 06:45
Got it and got your stuff in the forums logged.
RomeW
04-12-2004, 06:58
Two things:

1. Could you put a link to the history on the first page of the thread? That way more people will see it.

2. Secondly, I'd like to amend my California claims to:
-Los Angeles County (1000 sq. mi.)
-Ventura County (1873 sq. mi.)
-Santa Barbara County (2550 sq. mi.)
Andrehervia
04-12-2004, 07:03
Layarteb, just letting you know that myself and North Germania have agreed to swap Austria with Ukraine. Could you change the Europe map and claims list in light of this?
North Germania
04-12-2004, 07:05
That is confirmed from myself as well, and I have made a thread, which can be found here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7620035#post7620035post7620035

- N.G.
North Germania
04-12-2004, 07:12
North Germania has also claimed unoccupied Denmark. We have mobilized a force of troops into the land.

The thread can be found here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7620062#post7620062

- N.G.
North Germania
04-12-2004, 07:14
Layarteb, please update the map when you get a chance.
Pantheaa
04-12-2004, 07:21
No one has claimed Slovakia can i make that claim. I can provide example of RP post if needed
Yoboland
04-12-2004, 18:20
Right sorry, Hogsweat said i could claim Crete...

I would now like to claim Chile... That's not taken is it?
Pyschotika
04-12-2004, 18:28
I would like to have 1 of the 3:

Finland
Hungary
Denmark

Thanks ^^
Pyschotika
04-12-2004, 18:37
And if I get Denmark:

I would like to have the three small isles next to it. If that is possible. but yes as long as I can get some land >_> lol then I'm good.
RomeW
04-12-2004, 19:41
Two things:

1. Could you put a link to the history on the first page of the thread? That way more people will see it.

2. Secondly, I'd like to amend my California claims to:
-Los Angeles County (1000 sq. mi.)
-Ventura County (1873 sq. mi.)
-Santa Barbara County (2550 sq. mi.)

As I have reached an agreement with Skeelzania regarding California, I'd like my claims to California (this time it's set in stone) to:
-North Los Angeles County (500 sq. mi.)
-Ventura County (1873 sq. mi.)
-Santa Barbara County (2550 sq. mi.)
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 19:45
North Germania: Denmark is yours.

North Germania and Andrehervia: Swap affirmed.

Yoboland: Chile is yours.

Pantheaa: Yes you can have Slovakia.

Pyschotika: Yes Finland and Hungary are yours. Denmark was earlier claimed by NG though.

Olvyland ceased to exist so I am adding New Foundland to my claim.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 20:26
Expansion of the Layartebian Province of Dnalkrad (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378868)
Colodia
04-12-2004, 20:29
Since I want to get in on it before anyone else besides RomeW moves in,

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7623839#post7623839

My goal is for Riverside County, being the actual county where I live. ;)
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 20:30
RG Colodia.

BTW have you seen the forums?


ATTENTION

HOGSWEAT HAS STARTED A EARTH II NEWS!!!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378865
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 20:48
You also have RomeW in Southern Cali so it should make for an interesting RP in the near future. Let me know when you finalized what parts you want.
Skeelzania
04-12-2004, 21:03
You also have RomeW in Southern Cali so it should make for an interesting RP in the near future. Let me know when you finalized what parts you want.

Not to mention that I kinda wanted it as well. *broods*
Colodia
04-12-2004, 21:05
Not to mention that I kinda wanted it as well. *broods*
Erm...sorry to tell you...but you announcing you wanted it before anyone else took it kinda jump-started me to go for it. Sorry man.


BTW Layarteb, is my population correct for the amount of land I own? I don't want to have any advantage over everyone else. And besides, if I am able to take more land, then I can claim So. Cal.
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 21:08
Yes you can claim between 2.0m and 3.0m square miles.

This is what it would be with all of Southern California: 2,329,113.18 sq/mi.
Colodia
04-12-2004, 21:10
So think you would allow me to claim all the remaining parts of So. Cal, minus what RomeW controls, so I can RP my invasion into his land in California?
Layarteb
04-12-2004, 21:14
Surely.
Pyschotika
04-12-2004, 23:13
YAY!!!

Finland and Hungary is just fine with me. ^_^
Pyschotika
04-12-2004, 23:29
Hey, do Earths do World Wars? I mean of course everyone would have to agree to it, or those who don't can just be neutral. I am just wondering anyways....
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 00:03
Hungary was part of the polyglot Austro-Hungarian Empire, which collapsed during World War I. The country fell under Communist rule following World War II. In 1956, a revolt and announced withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact were met with a massive military intervention by Moscow. Under the leadership of Janos KADAR in 1968, Hungary began liberalizing its economy, introducing so-called "goulash Communism." Hungary held its first multiparty elections in 1990 and initiated a free market economy. It joined NATO in 1999 and the EU in 2004.

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Info on Hungary

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Finland was a province and then a grand duchy under Sweden from the 12th to the 19th centuries and an autonomous grand duchy of Russia after 1809. It won its complete independence in 1917. During World War II, it was able to successfully defend its freedom and resist invasions by the Soviet Union - albeit with some loss of territory. In the subsequent half century, the Finns made a remarkable transformation from a farm/forest economy to a diversified modern industrial economy; per capita income is now on par with Western Europe. As a member of the European Union, Finland was the only Nordic state to join the euro system at its initiation in January 1999.

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Info on Finland.


Ok now seeing that Finland is a free country, nothing to do much there as a RP of how it is independent.

Hungary...I'm kinda confused...is it indepedent? I don't think...I think it is ran like a Communist country still....I got this info off of the CIA site.....hrmmm
Yoboland
05-12-2004, 00:16
Yobbist extremists have been voted into power in Chile.

The people overthrew their oppressive government in favour of an ancient group of religious extremists, they promise to take down the corporate might that has been strangling the country and revive it into glory!
A miss Zenia Mareti has been voted as the new High Lord Chancellor and protector of The Yobbite Faith. Rumour has it she is going to do away with the current democratic system and replace it with a religious "senate".
They have also already started rebuilding and scratch building the whole armed forces in Chile to "defend the faith and protect those who can't protect themselves". They have been attempting to buy and start constructing a new line of submarines, Type 85 tanks from China and many more armaments...
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 00:43
Hungary's Government had grown corrupt, being ran by almost every big dog in the Nation who owned buisinessess. This Government was soon overthrown by Finnish troops and the people of Hungary were tired of running there own nation. After 2 Months of Finnish occupation, the people of Hungary realized that the Finnish would be a good nation to be a part of, thus a vote was taken.

Soon after, Hungary and Finland were one nation.

And soon after that, This nation elected a new leader, Mike Feldinchii ( OOC He will be used a lot in Governmental threads that has to do with my lands. )

The Nation soon changed its name to ' The United Lands of Mercitonia '. Finland kept its name and so did Hungary, like how the USA had States, Nebraska, Kansas...etc but were the United States of America, thus The United Lands of Mercitonia would work out kinda like the United States with Territorys....in simpleton terms, Hungary was Hungary and Finland was Finland, but were in the United Lands of Mercitonia.

Now that the Nation was at rest, they could continue with other Issues and live there lifes.

( Bah this was the best I could come up with...heh )
Pergast
05-12-2004, 01:09
Hey, guys. North Germania and The WIck both claim Latvia...
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 01:13
If anything, lets hope there isn't war. Let nations help the two leaders come up with a compromise. The United Lands of Mercitonia will remain neutral unless the Leader and Parliament feels it is just to join a side.
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 01:27
The Military of The United Lands of Mercitonia:

Infantry Gear:
Standard Kevlar Jackets ( Can take anything from a conventional Fire Arm, Including Lightweight Rifles and Standard Pistols, but take quite a blow still and pending on pupil, can cause him/her to pass out, nothing longer then a hour or two )
XM8 Lightweight Assault Rifles ( Clip loaded, 4 extra clips, 40 Extra Clips if pupil is a Ammo Distributor )
Boots ( Standard Issued Boots )
Gloves ( Fingerless Gloves )
Kevlar Helmets ( Same as its brother, the Kevlar Jacket, but highly probable to fling off from a shot if not strapped correctly or can cause a even longer concussion period )
Nightvision Personell Goggles ( Enables the Pupil to see in the night, giving everything a green tint )
M4 Frag Grenades ( Standard Highly Explosive Hand Grenade, pull pin and wait 3 seconds till explosion )
Standard Flash Bangs ( Causes pupil's in the vicinity to go deaf and blind, not exactly blind but for everything to be white, for about 4 - 5 Seconds. The Grenade emitts a huge flash, causing the pupil to dialate rapidly and the light is scarred temporarily and emits a loud loud sound to cause the pupil's ear drums to go " Nutzo " and to have a annoying buzzy/ringy sound to last longer then the blind effects, in some cases, if the pupil is to close to the Flash Bang, can become permanently hearing impaired )

Marine ABCS, Divisions/Squads/Fireteams:

Alpha
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliet
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
X-ray
Yankee
Zulu

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I need help evaluating my Servicemen Number...does our Nationstate Population play a role in our Earth II Nation's Population?
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 01:28
oh yea I just wanted to get my Military done so I could get to the easy part, setting up laws and bla bla
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 01:29
Yes your NationStates Statistics are your Statistics for Earth II... and this isn't the thread to post that stuff in. Make a new thread for all that.
Callisdrun
05-12-2004, 02:14
Hey, I know NorCal is already taken, but is there any chance that I could have the San Francisco Bay Area as a city-state? Or at least San Francisco proper or Berkeley/Oakland/Alameda?
Pyschotika
05-12-2004, 02:44
bah sorry but I just wanted to get this out of the way lol....
Layarteb
05-12-2004, 05:59
Pergast: Thanks for bringing that up. Typo on my part. NG controls Lithuania not Latvia.

Pyschotika: Yes a World War is planned for Earth II in the near future. Ruin my damn surprises why don't you ;) LOL!!! And yes please make a separate thread for that stuff and post me the link so that I can put it in the RPs section.

Yoboland: Glad to see you enjoy your claim and finally got one. If you want put that stuff in a separate thread and I'll link it here with the RPs.

Callisdrun: That is something you ought to discuss with whoever controls that area.
Pantheaa
05-12-2004, 09:29
Thanks Layerteb for Slovakia. My ancestors come from that nation so it means a lot to me

I'll probably start an RP thread celebrating Panthea's new claim.
Far Tortuga
05-12-2004, 09:36
Finally. As Skeelzania's Earth II clone, I would like to claim the Southern Californian counties of Orange County, San Diego County, south LA county (as previously worked out with RomeW), and the Baja Penninsula of Mexico cosisting of the two counties of Baja California Norte and Baja California Sur.

Colodia, I'll be TGing you tomorrow to see if we can work something out where I get a country.

A RP post will also go up sometime late tomorrow, at the earliest.
Nerotika
05-12-2004, 13:28
I would like to Claim Mexico and just Mexico. Nothing else.

Thanks
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 13:30
I would like to Claim Mexico and just Mexico. Nothing else.

Thanks

I'm not going to shout at you since you are a fellow ASDU member. Mexico is taken.
Nerotika
05-12-2004, 13:51
who took it?
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 13:53
Casana: Mexico (Yucatán Province)



He did. Although it's not on the map and that's only a province. Hmm... We'll have to see.
Nerotika
05-12-2004, 13:56
yeah he is on the map he's the tiny little dark purple section...so he really doesn`t own mexico COME ON...
ok well i didn`t want to use another post so i just put my post in this one...ok well Hogsweat HA I WIN YOU LOOSE BWAHAHAHAHAHA ok im done lol
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 13:57
I guess it would be free then.
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 14:02
ATTENTION EARTH II LEFTISTS
THE COMMUNIST INTERNATIONAL HAS BEEN FORMED!
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7629775#post7629775
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 15:12
Voronezh
Belgorod
Kursk
Orel
Bryansk
Kaluga
Smolensk
Moscow
Tver
Volgograd

I'd like to claim those... I WILL do an RP for them.
Layarteb
05-12-2004, 17:53
Pantheaa: No problem.

Far Tortuga: Let me know what the outcome of the talk with RomeW and Colodia is and make sure that they also affirm it.

Nerotika: You can have all of Mexico sans the Yucatán Province and what FT has.

Hogsweat: Those are all the cities I take it? It's going to take me some time to compile the square miles of them all but they'll be yours.
Hogsweat
05-12-2004, 18:06
Yeah, and the little states the cities are governed by. Thanks.
Layarteb
05-12-2004, 18:07
Wait you want the oblasts, okrugs, or stuff like that or just the city. The former will be very easy to calculate.
Layarteb
05-12-2004, 18:31
Updated...
Yoboland
05-12-2004, 19:02
claiming A chunk of Antarctica.... will RP
Far Tortuga
05-12-2004, 23:17
Far Tortuga: Let me know what the outcome of the talk with RomeW and Colodia is and make sure that they also affirm it.


RomeW's already affirmed it, so I'm just waiting for Colodia. Hope he doesn't kill himself.
Colodia
06-12-2004, 00:01
Finally. As Skeelzania's Earth II clone, I would like to claim the Southern Californian counties of Orange County, San Diego County, south LA county (as previously worked out with RomeW), and the Baja Penninsula of Mexico cosisting of the two counties of Baja California Norte and Baja California Sur.

Colodia, I'll be TGing you tomorrow to see if we can work something out where I get a country.

A RP post will also go up sometime late tomorrow, at the earliest.
Don't I receive all of Southern California as I claimed So. Cal already? You take out Orange, San Diego, and LA and you've got not only the coast, but the entire fun out of So Cal!
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 00:08
Don't I receive all of Southern California as I claimed So. Cal already? You take out Orange, San Diego, and LA and you've got not only the coast, but the entire fun out of So Cal!

You have all of So. Cal minus what little bit RomeW has. I thought you were going to invade him or something and get the rest of his land? Or was that post a few pages back not that.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 00:12
Don't feel bad Colodia, you would still get Riverside and its stockpile of mullets.

I would like to add the California Channel Islands, including Catalina and San Clemente. Basically everything on this map:

http://www.diveboat.com/map_of_great_escape_dive_destinations.shtml

Colodia please telegram me so we can at least try and work something out. Or just ignore me, whatever. I'll invade from somewhere I suppose.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 00:15
Southern California is in control of Colodia minus the few county's that RomeW controls with his southwest corridor. FT you don't control anything as you did not claim anything in time.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 00:17
Southern California is in control of Colodia minus the few county's that RomeW controls with his southwest corridor. FT you don't control anything as you did not claim anything in time.

Well that being said I would like to have him affirm that he also wants the islands. And didn't I claim the Baja penninsula?
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 00:20
Yeah that you have control of but that's Mexico.
Colodia
06-12-2004, 00:29
You can have the islands, just not the mainland.

And my invasion RP will commence as soon as I get a deal with Yerfejj sorted out. I told him to TG you Layarteb for your thoughts.

(I wasn't sure my claim was official cuz I didn't see it on the first page or on the map)
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 00:46
Okay this whole Southern California situation has got me so confused that it isn't funny. When something is solid and finalized please let me know in detail what is what and then I'll do the update on it.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 00:48
RomeW, Colodia, want to discuss this on the Earth II forums? I would suggest AIM or something but I don't have that capability.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 00:51
Go right ahead and use the general forum. I'll start a thread for you.
Colodia
06-12-2004, 02:04
I think it's okay.

I take the mainland, minus what RomeW holds
Fat takes the islands off of Southern Cali
and RomeW has whatever he has
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 02:18
Okay FT what islands are those?
Pernica
06-12-2004, 03:16
Pernica, Population 511million

Requesting Oregon and Washington.
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 03:18
I think it's okay.

I take the mainland, minus what RomeW holds
Fat takes the islands off of Southern Cali
and RomeW has whatever he has

Alright, that'll do. Layatreb, the islands include the following:

San Miguel Island, Santa Rosa Island, Santa Cruz Island, Anacapa Island, Santa Barbara Island, Santa Catalina Island, San Nicolas Island, San Clemente Island, and all of the minor rocks and islets associated with them. These are collectively known as the California Channel Islands.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 03:28
Alright, that'll do. Layatreb, the islands include the following:

San Miguel Island, Santa Rosa Island, Santa Cruz Island, Anacapa Island, Santa Barbara Island, Santa Catalina Island, San Nicolas Island, San Clemente Island, and all of the minor rocks and islets associated with them. These are collectively known as the California Channel Islands.

These are the islands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands_of_California

339.5 square miles total.
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 03:29
Pernica, Population 511million

Requesting Oregon and Washington.

Yours.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 03:30
This is what I have in Southern California:

-Ventura County
-Los Angeles County (north)
-A strip of land 5 mi. wide running along I-10 outside of LA County all the way to Phoenix

I should also mention that I will NOT under any circumstances be dragged into a war (I don't have the time for one and I simply just don't like being dragged into as I don't believe that's fair to do to anyone). If Colodia wants to discuss the control of California I am willing to negotiate. Plus, if Colodia desperately wants Southern California I am willing to modify my claims to swing north instead to Las Vegas instead of Los Angeles (though I'd rather have the latter because of access to the Pacific Ocean).
Far Tortuga
06-12-2004, 03:36
I got 350 square miles for all the islands I mentioned, excluding the islets and rocks of which there is no real record of size (should be neglible anyway).
RomeW
06-12-2004, 03:42
Layarteb, I'd like to add a 2,873 sq. mi. claim (287.3 mi. drive plus 5 mi. around for roads) along US-93 connecting Phoenix to Las Vegas. If I have to give up my claims to California to do so I will.
Colodia
06-12-2004, 03:47
Layarteb, I'd like to add a 2,873 sq. mi. claim (287.3 mi. drive plus 5 mi. around for roads) along US-93 connecting Phoenix to Las Vegas. If I have to give up my claims to California to do so I will.
Sounds good, right Layarteb?

*secretly nods a HUGE yes!*
Layarteb
06-12-2004, 03:48
FT: 350 added.

Colodia: Ok.

RomeW: Yeah added.
RomeW
06-12-2004, 03:49
Colodia, check your TG's. I'd like to talk about SoCal.