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Pushka
17-12-2007, 19:40
...which is?

Freedom, strength and prosperity.
Layarteb
17-12-2007, 20:05
Freedom, strength and prosperity.

Freedom is obviously out. Strength is all about power projection [still in the works]. Prosperity is only good if the people can all benefit from it [too early to tell].

Still got a ways to go...

Consequently, I don't know why this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22290101/) is news. We have rats bigger than that in the subways...
Nerotika
17-12-2007, 21:48
Hell, everyone else is doing teasers so I suppose i'll give one off too...just for the fun of it.

"Nazer Ozar, Member of The Kazakh Aazadi Movement."

*No it is not godmodding, NG has acknowledged rebels loyal to the Nerotikan cause, I just thought I would put a name to them...as well as bring back a group I wish I would've had more ability to Rp better.
Hawdawg
18-12-2007, 02:17
I have returned from my hiatus. Major Sinus Infection/Allergies, etc. have had me down for about two weeks straight. I am still taking meds but I should be back to normal soon.


-Hawdawg
Pushka
18-12-2007, 05:11
Freedom is obviously out. Strength is all about power projection [still in the works]. Prosperity is only good if the people can all benefit from it [too early to tell].

Still got a ways to go...

Consequently, I don't know why this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22290101/) is news. We have rats bigger than that in the subways...

I never said that Putin will lead the way, I just said that somehow we will get to our goal. Russia is built on this shit, hope and will is what made us into a great nation.
Hirgizstan
18-12-2007, 22:08
To add to the Active RP List- 'The Two Fuhrers'- a meeting between the GAR and COH.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545352

ATTN: USB- Check LoS for my latest post.
Tristan Providence
18-12-2007, 23:34
I would like to announce that my population has no reached 500 Million. Therefore I wish to claim the remaining parts of Tyrandis Australia. Thank you.


PS: Do I need to Rp for it?
Layarteb
19-12-2007, 04:51
I would like to announce that my population has no reached 500 Million. Therefore I wish to claim the remaining parts of Tyrandis Australia. Thank you.


PS: Do I need to Rp for it?


Yes.
Pushka
19-12-2007, 05:04
Aight can't post anything in the Autumn Offensive today, head pulsating like a bitch, maybe tomorrow then I wake up...meh...thinking hurts.
United States of Brink
19-12-2007, 07:15
Ok Hirg, just been busy is all.
Tristan Providence
19-12-2007, 19:43
Expanding Paradice (E2) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13305811#post13305811) Tyrandis Australia Takeover.
Pushka
20-12-2007, 04:23
Nero so you still want to get out of this by joining the Federation or not? According to your last post in Autumn offensive you don't want to join the Federation anymore, please do clarify.
Layarteb
20-12-2007, 05:28
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9076/wolverinesmk0.jpg

WOLVERINES!


"In time, this war - like every other war - ended. But I never forgot. And I come to this place often, when no one else does. In the early days of World War 3, guerillas - mostly children - placed the names of their lost upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so that this nation should not perish from the earth."
Pushka
20-12-2007, 08:55
I only liked the beginning of that movie, the rest was nonsense. Some high school kids taking on the Red Army...nonsense.
Nerotika
20-12-2007, 21:29
Nero so you still want to get out of this by joining the Federation or not? According to your last post in Autumn offensive you don't want to join the Federation anymore, please do clarify.

No, not if it means loosing any of my sovereign territory. But do mind that all you are doing is antagonizing a conflict more then it needs to be, after all this is a conflict that invloves most of the OA and from what i've caught at amost every oppertunity you have attempted to tarnsh the OA to the brink of a world war and with me in the picture willing to do almost anything to protect my nation I will not rest until outside parties give up on this war even if it means causing a war between the powers. (Which will be easy concidering the circumstances)
Pushka
21-12-2007, 05:13
No, not if it means loosing any of my sovereign territory. But do mind that all you are doing is antagonizing a conflict more then it needs to be, after all this is a conflict that invloves most of the OA and from what i've caught at amost every oppertunity you have attempted to tarnsh the OA to the brink of a world war and with me in the picture willing to do almost anything to protect my nation I will not rest until outside parties give up on this war even if it means causing a war between the powers. (Which will be easy concidering the circumstances)

Okay, thanks for clarifying. My motivation is this, where is no way just me and you can win an all out war against the October Alliance. You started a war against the October Alliance, so instead of watching them take all of your territory I'd rather come in and prevent them from taking a part, either by taking it from you by force or having you join the Federation, I would much rather keep the status quo with you owning all that land but that option is out of the window since you attacked NG. That said I am also making a genuine effort to put my past with the October Alliance behind me, I am a bit tired of being the outcast of the global community, even though that does not mean that I have suddenly changed my opinion on what TOA really is its just that there has always been middle ground on which me and them can converse and cooperate.
Layarteb
21-12-2007, 18:47
I only liked the beginning of that movie, the rest was nonsense. Some high school kids taking on the Red Army...nonsense.

Greatest movie ever...Red Army = epic phailz!
United States of Brink
21-12-2007, 20:16
Wait what the heck. Push this is your chance! Nero is fighting TOA, join in and do some sloberknocking. I'll help behind the scenes (TOA don't read that previous statement).
Layarteb
21-12-2007, 20:34
Wait what the heck. Push this is your chance! Nero is fighting TOA, join in and do some sloberknocking. I'll help behind the scenes (TOA don't read that previous statement).

Grrrr
Nerotika
21-12-2007, 21:23
Okay, thanks for clarifying. My motivation is this, where is no way just me and you can win an all out war against the October Alliance. You started a war against the October Alliance, so instead of watching them take all of your territory I'd rather come in and prevent them from taking a part, either by taking it from you by force or having you join the Federation, I would much rather keep the status quo with you owning all that land but that option is out of the window since you attacked NG. That said I am also making a genuine effort to put my past with the October Alliance behind me, I am a bit tired of being the outcast of the global community, even though that does not mean that I have suddenly changed my opinion on what TOA really is its just that there has always been middle ground on which me and them can converse and cooperate.

Its understandable, but Im just not wiling to give up my territory to you just so I can get out of this easily...Although I would rather not have to fight you and I am trying to give you a chance to pull out forces without anything happening to them you seem to ready to fight me instead. But all it seems your becoming is an OA dog, I guess im more of the outcast than you now.

Anyway, I suppose this is just going to turn into a defensive war when my forces in Kazakhstan get pumbled cause im not going to reinforce them with Pushka choosing an invasion against me, whether NG will pursue into my territory or not is to be seen but at the most I will attempt a strong border defense along the Kazakh border and Federation border. And LB's territories will become more heavily defended near the OK border concidering his OA status.
Nerotika
21-12-2007, 21:35
Wait what the heck. Push this is your chance! Nero is fighting TOA, join in and do some sloberknocking. I'll help behind the scenes (TOA don't read that previous statement).

If your willing to do some behind the scene's work maybe we can do some talking, I could use some help in the air war. ;)
Pushka
22-12-2007, 04:21
Wait what the heck. Push this is your chance! Nero is fighting TOA, join in and do some sloberknocking. I'll help behind the scenes (TOA don't read that previous statement).

Aha, so me and Nero are supposed to take out TOA while you are doing stuff behind the scenes....I am already in the containment stage right now trying to keep TOA from spreading as much as possible, unfortunately that means having to kick Nero's ass and cooperating with NG and Cot I guess on this one.
United States of Brink
22-12-2007, 07:08
Hell doesnt know what to do, freeze or what. I thought your people were raised hating TOA, that your goverment's soul purpose was to bitch at toa and now you are helping. As if you needed to add this confusion to Russians.
Pushka
22-12-2007, 07:43
Hell doesnt know what to do, freeze or what. I thought your people were raised hating TOA, that your goverment's soul purpose was to bitch at toa and now you are helping. As if you needed to add this confusion to Russians.

Oh don't worry, my people bitch at the government for this and all other moves they made to bury the war ax concerning TOA, was NG the aggressor I would have helped Nero, now I am still trying to save his ass but he apparently doesn't want it anymore.
RomeW
22-12-2007, 08:17
<snip>

You're not arguing from a position of strength and, given the circumstances, I think Pushka's offer is reasonable- you're effectively independent internally, so not much would actually change.

Oh don't worry, my people bitch at the government for this and all other moves they made to bury the war ax concerning TOA, was NG the aggressor I would have helped Nero, now I am still trying to save his ass but he apparently doesn't want it anymore.

Maybe this is just stemming from the fact I haven't been following your conflict with TOA that deeply but I fail to see how you destroying Nero serves any "anti-TOA" purpose.
Pushka
22-12-2007, 09:51
You're not arguing from a position of strength and, given the circumstances, I think Pushka's offer is reasonable- you're effectively independent internally, so not much would actually change.



Maybe this is just stemming from the fact I haven't been following your conflict with TOA that deeply but I fail to see how you destroying Nero serves any "anti-TOA" purpose.

Simple logic really, I don't get involved, NG takes everything, I get involved he only takes a half.
United States of Brink
22-12-2007, 18:41
Or he uses this as the excuse to completely remove you from existance.
Pushka
22-12-2007, 19:41
Or he uses this as the excuse to completely remove you from existance.

Who NG? Doubtful, I am not Nero I can take out just about anyone, one on one in my own back yard, hell even two on one. But in any case, me and him talked about this already its all agreed upon. But anyways, you're my enemy now remember? I don't want you doing anything in my vicinity in any case.
Nerotika
22-12-2007, 22:44
Oh don't worry, my people bitch at the government for this and all other moves they made to bury the war ax concerning TOA, was NG the aggressor I would have helped Nero, now I am still trying to save his ass but he apparently doesn't want it anymore.

I asked for your help once, you denied the request so I asked you to leave my country of which you decided to turn on me and betray my country. In the conflict with NG I am the aggressor in the conflict with you, your the aggressor. In no way are you helping by turning your forces on me and aiding the OA if anything your making things much worse and setting up the stages for a conflict worse than this. Do you really thing after all the bitching and moaning and complaining you do about the OA, not to mention bring the world to the brink of war several times, that their gunna go into Nerotika take over and allow you to waltz in and have my land?

I know thats all you want is my land, dont play dumb with me you egotistical bastard. Just cause you think you can win every time doesn't mean you can, fuck I can pretend to be a muffin but does that make it true? You need to take a step back and think before you allow the manipulations of the OA get to you, once i'm gone your gunna become the outcast once again (Also, OA members need not reply to this cause im not in the mood for your bullshit that you reply with every fucken time). So basically your fucked once this is over and its cause you think your helping the situation by going to war it me, step back and let this happen if I have to learn a lesson then let it go but I wont give up and if it means pounding your forces into the ground by any means necessary fuck by all means necessary I will.
Layarteb
22-12-2007, 23:08
Who NG? Doubtful, I am not Nero I can take out just about anyone, one on one in my own back yard, hell even two on one. But in any case, me and him talked about this already its all agreed upon. But anyways, you're my enemy now remember? I don't want you doing anything in my vicinity in any case.

Why again is Brink your enemy?
Pushka
23-12-2007, 00:47
Why again is Brink your enemy?

Helped Hirgy with Kenya.
Pushka
23-12-2007, 00:50
I asked for your help once, you denied the request so I asked you to leave my country of which you decided to turn on me and betray my country. In the conflict with NG I am the aggressor in the conflict with you, your the aggressor. In no way are you helping by turning your forces on me and aiding the OA if anything your making things much worse and setting up the stages for a conflict worse than this. Do you really thing after all the bitching and moaning and complaining you do about the OA, not to mention bring the world to the brink of war several times, that their gunna go into Nerotika take over and allow you to waltz in and have my land?

I know thats all you want is my land, dont play dumb with me you egotistical bastard. Just cause you think you can win every time doesn't mean you can, fuck I can pretend to be a muffin but does that make it true? You need to take a step back and think before you allow the manipulations of the OA get to you, once i'm gone your gunna become the outcast once again (Also, OA members need not reply to this cause im not in the mood for your bullshit that you reply with every fucken time). So basically your fucked once this is over and its cause you think your helping the situation by going to war it me, step back and let this happen if I have to learn a lesson then let it go but I wont give up and if it means pounding your forces into the ground by any means necessary fuck by all means necessary I will.

Right, don't worry buddy I got all this figured out. I hold my national interests above all else, getting you to play nice would have been better as it is true I would much rather let you keep that land but since you don't want it anymore I'll go a different route the end result will still have my priorities reached. As for pounding my forces, we'll see, you have 70 migs in the air, I can start blowing your SAM sites to shit and then bombing you into the stone age no ground forces necessary. In any case, we'll see how it turns out. As for whats to come later, I don't give a damn as long as I can contain this now. And TOA will have a much bigger problem winning a war against me in that area then you but as it stands now I don't think they want a war. But in any case I would rather have my forces stationed where in mass numbers so they don't get any funny ideas. As for potential problems from deviding the land, my problem is not with NG, one may arise with Cot judging from past experiences but I will have no reason to back down with so many of my troops in that territory, I also doubt he'll want to compromise the well being of Yakutia. Even now you still have a clear way out of the situation, surrender and join the Federation you stay on EII, the fighting ends, a portion of your land is surrendered to NG, TOA spread has been contained the best it could be and everyone is happy. You get mostly self-government, etc.

In any event this is just a game and even if as you say TOA will try to remove me from EII through this so be it, I'll at least be able to finally give them hell. I would also like to say that I would much like for this conflict to end as soon as possible, my public's opinion is against killing fellow Russians but if a few must be killed so the war ends and the rest can live so be it. Of course I'll start RPing the political bitchfest as the election time nears since Igor Stepanov through making moves towards restoring relations with certain TOA members became very unpopular in the country...well that and also the whole thing with Pushka loosing its sovereignty because of Federation's expansion to Latin American and South American peoples as well as some Arabs in Yemen but that will be addressed very soon and that address will also concern your status if you do decide to join the Federation.
RomeW
23-12-2007, 09:36
OOC: Is there any part of Nerotika that is still independent, or at least unoccupied?
Pushka
23-12-2007, 09:42
Right now? He isn't occupied right now, NG hasn't begun a counter-offensive yet and I am still moving against Kirov.
Pushka
23-12-2007, 10:01
Official Statement from the Russian Federation

In replying to USR's demands of withdrawing our troops from their territory we were rather harsh and we admit to it. We still stand behind our words, however perhaps a compromise can yet be reached. We live in a very interesting world where everyone is pointing nuclear weapons at everyone else and as such it would be most preferable if moves were made to at least attempt to resolve these conflicts through diplomatic means. As such we would wish the Fourth Reich and the Union of Soviet Republics to negotiate a cease fire at this moment. The terms we wish to see complied with are as follows USR will withdraw their troops from the Kazahstan region and the Fourth Reich will refrain from launching a counter-offensive into USR territory at this moment. Our troops already within USR territory will cease advancing towards Kirov and return to their previous positions within USR territory. The nation of Cotland will also cease its attacks on the USR. We believe those terms to be reasonable, once they are complied with three party talks between ourselves, the USR and the Reich can be held in a neutral territory such as the Roman Empire, if they wish it, and we can attempt to reach a compromise by peaceful means. If all else fails we can still start firing at each other again, but perhaps instead we will remember that a life of every human being is precious and do our best to resolve this mess without anymore death.

-Ilya Andropov, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russian Federation

OOC: Now that I think about it this option maybe preferable, if it doesn't work out atleast I can say I tried.
Layarteb
23-12-2007, 17:26
Helped Hirgy with Kenya.

Yet, in passing, you're helping NG so........Despite any justification of slowing his advance, you're still helping...
Pushka
23-12-2007, 21:09
Yet, in passing, you're helping NG so........Despite any justification of slowing his advance, you're still helping...

I am making an effort now to not look at TOA as a single block but instead treat them as individual nations to a degree. I think I can work with NG, and even though I maybe helping this is the only alternative to preventing him from taking all of Nerotika's land. In any case if the ceasefire works when we can negotiate whats to be further, perhaps I can help Nero to keep all of his land yet.
RomeW
24-12-2007, 10:08
Official Statement from the Russian Federation

In replying to USR's demands of withdrawing our troops from their territory we were rather harsh and we admit to it. We still stand behind our words, however perhaps a compromise can yet be reached. We live in a very interesting world where everyone is pointing nuclear weapons at everyone else and as such it would be most preferable if moves were made to at least attempt to resolve these conflicts through diplomatic means. As such we would wish the Fourth Reich and the Union of Soviet Republics to negotiate a cease fire at this moment. The terms we wish to see complied with are as follows USR will withdraw their troops from the Kazahstan region and the Fourth Reich will refrain from launching a counter-offensive into USR territory at this moment. Our troops already within USR territory will cease advancing towards Kirov and return to their previous positions within USR territory. The nation of Cotland will also cease its attacks on the USR. We believe those terms to be reasonable, once they are complied with three party talks between ourselves, the USR and the Reich can be held in a neutral territory such as the Roman Empire, if they wish it, and we can attempt to reach a compromise by peaceful means. If all else fails we can still start firing at each other again, but perhaps instead we will remember that a life of every human being is precious and do our best to resolve this mess without anymore death.

-Ilya Andropov, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russian Federation

Good work. Honestly, I thought of calling for a ceasefire myself- it just got too late for me to write it, so I let it slide. I'm happy to see I wasn't alone in what I was thinking.

Anyway, I shall offer my services as both a peacekeeper and a peacemaker. Just say the word and we'll get the conference going.
Pushka
24-12-2007, 10:29
Yeah...now the problem is that NG is "missing in action" as Lay told me which freezes this whole thing until he gets back. Plus we need to hear Nero's response first.
Hirgizstan
24-12-2007, 16:39
Merry Christmas to everyone on E2.
Spizania
24-12-2007, 20:16
Aye Merry Christmas
* starts chucking bottles of whiskey and huge mince pies the size of dinner plates into the crowd*
Pushka
24-12-2007, 21:32
Its not Chrismas here yet, but I will most likely get drunk tonight preemptively. But yeah merry Christmas everyone.
Marimaia
24-12-2007, 21:42
Merry Christmas!

Ho-ho-ho!


Oh, wait, the Politically Correct Police are on the way...um....



Pleasant Non-Denominational Winter's Festivities! Ha-ha-ha!

(There we go, I've avoided offending non-Christian faiths and prostitutes.)
Ottoman Khaif
24-12-2007, 22:35
Merry Christmas!

Ho-ho-ho!


Oh, wait, the Politically Correct Police are on the way...um....



Pleasant Non-Denominational Winter's Festivities! Ha-ha-ha!

(There we go, I've avoided offending non-Christian faiths and prostitutes.)

Aye, we can't risk offending prostitutes....

So happy holidays since I am one of those non-Christian faiths..bah humbug I say..Humbug..
Layarteb
24-12-2007, 22:40
Merry Christmas!

Ho-ho-ho!


Oh, wait, the Politically Correct Police are on the way...um....



Pleasant Non-Denominational Winter's Festivities! Ha-ha-ha!

(There we go, I've avoided offending non-Christian faiths and prostitutes.)

Aye, we can't risk offending prostitutes....

So happy holidays since I am one of those non-Christian faiths..bah humbug I say..Humbug..

As you are aware I detest PC so be as un-PC as you want. Holidays? No. Merry Christmas. Why? Because it is Christmas! The other holidays passed and screw Boxing Day (lol jk)...

An e-mail from my friend:

To all my Democrat friends:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes
for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress,
non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice
holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the
religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your
choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or
traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful,
personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the
onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2008, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose
contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply
that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only
America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without
regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious
faith or sexual preference of the wishee.



To all my Republican friends:

Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Tristan Providence
25-12-2007, 03:17
Hey, Merry Christmas everyone! Sorry I havn't been very active. Schools been busy busy... I'm going to be leaving for a week tomorrow, so I need to go D13, hope everyones christmas goes well!
Layarteb
25-12-2007, 03:25
The LDC is pleased to announce the sale of the F-53 Griffon combat-capable trainer and multirole fighter aircraft for international sale.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546135
Cotland
25-12-2007, 11:00
I wish you all a very Merry Christmas, and fuck political correctness! :D Cheers!
Layarteb
25-12-2007, 17:20
The LDC is pleased to announce the sale of the F-53 Griffon combat-capable trainer and multirole fighter aircraft for international sale.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546135

I updated the stats a little bit.

By the way, Merry Christmas.
Spizania
29-12-2007, 17:45
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/AdmiralClassAnson-2.png
Alas, i present the heaviest and most powerful warship in the world :P
Cotland
29-12-2007, 17:50
Ugly. And I recommend you put this through Linc before posting it here. And please post a link instead of a pagebreaker.
Hawdawg
29-12-2007, 18:10
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/AdmiralClassAnson-2.png
Alas, i present the heaviest and most powerful warship in the world :P

It needs alot more detail Spiz.

Here is a link to a few of mine I have been working on.

http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=859 (Line Art Projects)

Use multidecks to introduce depth into the drawing, put hatches portholes, etc. in the structure to increase the detail. The frame is a good start just keep adding to it.

-Hawdawg
Spizania
29-12-2007, 18:13
eh, my style is actually very sparse detailwise, i just dont have the concentration to put in extra details, so i dont try, apparently it looks better than my half baked superdetailed ones, i am however proud of my technical linearting
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/20cm3L45.png
Hirgizstan
29-12-2007, 22:35
Got any stats?
Spizania
29-12-2007, 23:48
Some ongoing discussion about the displacement and the speed, however it uses a combination propellor and thermal expansion waterjet drive, so power is not in shrot supply, especially with her supercritical reactor.
Primary Armament is 12 34"/62 Mark I Naval Rifles in 3 4-Gun turrets with a secondary armament of 12 Type 332 135mm/75 guns in 6 Mod 2 Twin Mounts, 32 57mm Cannon in four Mark III Twin mounts and 6 Mark IV Quadrouple Mounts. 4 28cm Gatling ASW Mortars, no missiles other than the rather twinky guided weapons fired from the main guns, the 135mm guns and the DART projectiles from the 57mm guns. Which are rather twinky.
Large missiles are for escorts anyway.
United States of Brink
30-12-2007, 07:09
I am still alive. The holidays have been a busy time for me the bartender. I'll be alive and kicking once the new years is good and past. Sorry to Hirg for keeping you waiting so long.
Hirgizstan
30-12-2007, 15:23
I'm sorry to say Spiz, but this sounds pretty damn big...and super-dreds are not allowed on E2. My own Missouri Class is at the edge of what is allowed. If yours isn't similar I reckon it would not be allowed.

And Brink- no worries my friend.
Spizania
30-12-2007, 15:38
Actually already cleared it with Layarteb
Layarteb
30-12-2007, 17:33
Actually already cleared it with Layarteb

All you asked me was what was the limit of what was allowed and I said no superdreads so if it isn't a superdread its okay but otherwise I never saw stats on it but I'm going on good faith here that it isn't a superdread, covering more or less anything under 600m, displacement being a lesser issue because displacement is usually a round about figure to the respective size of the vessel. I wouldn't want to put a displacement cap on it because a 450m aircraft carrier would probably have more displacement than a 600m battleship.
Spizania
30-12-2007, 22:02
Thats a 558 metre vessel, so i guess its cleared, il work out displacement and power output statistics
Hirgizstan
31-12-2007, 17:00
Fair enough. Post it up as soon as you get it done, it certainly sounds and looks interesting.
Spizania
01-01-2008, 02:17
Itl get posted as part of the 2008 Fleet Estimate :P
Cotland
01-01-2008, 02:36
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

yES iM DRUNK!
Pushka
01-01-2008, 03:56
С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ

S NOVIM GODOM

HAPPY NEW YEAR


I am about to start getting drunk just got back from work.
Layarteb
01-01-2008, 09:34
Happy New Year peoples!!!

no i'm not drunk and i did my good deed for this year already

passed by a car with the interior light on and the door happened to be unlocked so i opened it up, turned off the light, and left it be!!! i got woken up once at 5:00 with my flashers on and had to buy a whole new battery cuz mine was dead...at least it was warm then, there's frost on the cars and shit now...whomever that person is, i hope they have a good year.
Pushka
01-01-2008, 10:15
K so I got drunk and I was taking a crap....and I dropped my mp3 played into the toilet....fuck..it doesn't turn on anymore....fuck....fuck....m[ad\ad\\
Layarteb
01-01-2008, 20:27
K so I got drunk and I was taking a crap....and I dropped my mp3 played into the toilet....fuck..it doesn't turn on anymore....fuck....fuck....m[ad\ad\\

What a rookie mistake!
Pineholt
01-01-2008, 21:11
Happy New Year everyone...any big new RPs coming up in E2?
Layarteb
01-01-2008, 21:23
Happy New Year everyone...any big new RPs coming up in E2?

At the moment it seems rather stagnant but I might do one myself in the upcoming month. You could always start something going on in your newly acquired territories.
Hirgizstan
01-01-2008, 22:14
Happy New Year everyone...any big new RPs coming up in E2?

Land of Sin is going to go into hyperdrive soon. Ugo's depraved torture scenes will be back...vomit buckets on stand-by people!...and the war finally gets started. I have 22 pages already written for the start of the war, its going to be one epic kick off!
Layarteb
02-01-2008, 00:41
Expect some things to get spiced up in the Falklands too.
United States of Brink
02-01-2008, 01:30
Jesus your making me look bad Hirg. I should get the ball rolling tomorrow, I actually have a load of free time yay!
Layarteb
02-01-2008, 05:27
I am going to be overhauling my factbook over the next few days with new maps (in links this time instead of posted), incorporation of my new format of territorial distribution (including new territories), adjustments to the military, and some other long-needed revisions.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2008, 16:21
Jesus your making me look bad Hirg. I should get the ball rolling tomorrow, I actually have a load of free time yay!

Don't worry buddy, I'm really not fussed. Better to wait until you have time than to rush it and not get it right.
United States of Brink
02-01-2008, 18:58
I've made my post. Lets get this thing rolling again eh?!
Hirgizstan
02-01-2008, 20:42
Powerful stuff man.
Tristan Providence
03-01-2008, 03:02
Alrighty, I am back! Sorry I havn't been active... Was out of town. So I will get to working on the following threads:

Two Fuhrers
Down Under
Expanding Paradise
Tristan Providence
03-01-2008, 03:07
Terr and I are executing a land exchange. Queensland will be divided from A2-A4, I will take the north half and he will keep the southern half.
Terronian
03-01-2008, 03:08
I am confirming what he said. By the way, for those of you with know road map, that is basically a straight line from Townsville to Mt Isa.
Layarteb
03-01-2008, 03:41
I am confirming what he said. By the way, for those of you with know road map, that is basically a straight line from Townsville to Mt Isa.

If you have said road map I would like to see it to do it properly.
Tristan Providence
03-01-2008, 03:57
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/jamessavvy/australia_rel_1999.jpg

The Area marked in red is the Area being transferred. It should be from the tip of RomeW Territory in an arc to the Hawdawg boarder.
Layarteb
03-01-2008, 04:18
That works!

By the way, I reworked my travel vista system. Joo is at 150k not 55k.
Layarteb
03-01-2008, 05:18
Alright my factbook has been reposted [see link below] with up-to-date information, new organization to the Empire, and the 'corporations' post.
Nerotika
03-01-2008, 21:37
Nerotikan Military Request for Ceasefire between German-Nerotikan Forces

The Nerotikan Military hearby requests a ceasefire between armed forces within German territory as of early this morning. Chairman Darinsky issued this request in order to attempt talks to repay for the mistake made in the invasion and attempted imperial attack against the Germans. The Chairman sends his most sincere apology to the German state and its people and request some time to talk about this issue at hand. During this ceasefire the Nerotikan military will be given an order of retreat to back to the border and in-force the border.

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Message to the Russian Federation

We have attempted talks with you and asked you to do your buisiness and leave our nation with your military presence. Your response does not seem fitting to our liking and so we ask a final time, leave our nation with your military force and save what respect our people have gained for your nation. If you fail to comply then action will be taken, please decide wisely.
Tristan Providence
03-01-2008, 23:08
Do I need someone to rp resistance in the expanding paradise thread?
Layarteb
04-01-2008, 00:34
Do I need someone to rp resistance in the expanding paradise thread?

^^^ ???
Tristan Providence
04-01-2008, 00:37
^^^ ???

Expanding Paradise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545721) Aka the take over of the rest of unclaimed Western Australia. Does some one need to rp the Tyrandis military or do I just walk in an raise my flag?

Hirg TG.
Layarteb
04-01-2008, 03:58
Expanding Paradise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545721) Aka the take over of the rest of unclaimed Western Australia. Does some one need to rp the Tyrandis military or do I just walk in an raise my flag?

Hirg TG.

Well that's up to you. It isn't required to have someone RP the resistance but it generally adds to an RP but it's up to you.
Layarteb
04-01-2008, 04:09
Alright I didn't realize that I had not finished posting Chapter 4 of Infernal so I ended that and I'm going to see if I can write more than the page and a quarter that I have of Chapter 5.

EDIT - > Okay wrote some posted some!
Layarteb
04-01-2008, 05:05
Well the thing is, I have no clue what Tyrandis had in his military. Do I make it up as I go?

Well I know it was an advanced military but as to its composition I do not know the specifics. Expect it to be very advanced though in nature. What exactly are you claiming by the way?

mmm time warp!!!

http://www.sbfilmfestival.org/blog/uploaded_images/timewarp2-730186.jpg
Tristan Providence
04-01-2008, 05:06
Well that's up to you. It isn't required to have someone RP the resistance but it generally adds to an RP but it's up to you.

Well the thing is, I have no clue what Tyrandis had in his military. Do I make it up as I go?
Tristan Providence
04-01-2008, 05:14
Well I know it was an advanced military but as to its composition I do not know the specifics. Expect it to be very advanced though in nature. What exactly are you claiming by the way?

mmm time warp!!!

http://www.sbfilmfestival.org/blog/uploaded_images/timewarp2-730186.jpg

The part of Western Australia that is to the north of me.
Cotland
04-01-2008, 14:14
Well the thing is, I have no clue what Tyrandis had in his military. Do I make it up as I go?

He had a shitload of very advanced stuff, with emphasis on his Air Force. Expect going up against very advanced fighters with very well trained and experienced pilots.

Still alive people.
Nerotika
04-01-2008, 18:12
I got an idea just so we have something to do to pass the time, anyone up for a World War where we RP individual Soldiers using the EII world? We can manipulate the storyline and make it war on all fronts, Russia, Europe, NA, SA and Africa. Just the idea, work it out later?

EDIT - This obviously wouldn't effect our nations in any way.
Spizania
05-01-2008, 00:14
Incomplete compilation of the Escorts and Picket Vessels of the CSN (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/23classdestroyer-4.png)
Fear the CSN! and the contents of those canisters on the Town-class is secret
Pushka
05-01-2008, 04:50
I got an idea just so we have something to do to pass the time, anyone up for a World War where we RP individual Soldiers using the EII world? We can manipulate the storyline and make it war on all fronts, Russia, Europe, NA, SA and Africa. Just the idea, work it out later?

EDIT - This obviously wouldn't effect our nations in any way.

Look a few pages back I called for a temporary ceasefire.
Pushka
05-01-2008, 04:51
He had a shitload of very advanced stuff, with emphasis on his Air Force. Expect going up against very advanced fighters with very well trained and experienced pilots.

Still alive people.

Whats up man, how you been?
Layarteb
05-01-2008, 06:00
So I just watched the Devil's Rejects, I don't have to work tomorrow, and I have eerie thoughts for Infernal. Who's with me?
Spizania
05-01-2008, 14:58
All I know is that I am Legend is a brilliant film
Pushka
05-01-2008, 22:15
All I know is that I am Legend is a brilliant film

It is a good movie indeed, finally breaks the old worn out boundaries that we've come to expect from zombie movies.
Layarteb
05-01-2008, 23:33
I bet Resident Evil is still better.
Spizania
05-01-2008, 23:42
Warspite class battleship (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/Warspiteclass.png)
Created so that the traditional battleship names of the Confederate States Navy would not be sullied by the horror of the non-gun battleship.

Ships to be built:-
Warspite
Thunderer
Temeraire
Lion
Invincible
Indefatigable
Inflexible
Resolution
Resistance
Repulse
Renown
Ramilies
Pushka
06-01-2008, 02:40
I bet Resident Evil is still better.

Resident Evil is as average as zombie movies get.
Layarteb
06-01-2008, 03:26
Resident Evil is as average as zombie movies get.

Not the least. It's epik!
Layarteb
06-01-2008, 07:47
Alright Infernal is completely up to date with what I have written in MS Word for it. I'm going to try to write some more before I go to bed.
Hirgizstan
06-01-2008, 20:44
More LAND OF SIN:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13349270&postcount=40

Coming to the end of Chapter One now. I'm introducing something new here, a "new" character of sorts called the Atrum Besita (The Dark Beast). You'll find out a little more when I post a comprehensive list of characters in the second chapter.
Layarteb
06-01-2008, 22:00
Mari, I left something for you offsite.
Nerotika
06-01-2008, 22:37
lol, I missed that earlier message Push. But my call to NG stands (Just ignore the message to you, make it sound like a responce I guess =-P), so now we sit back and play the waiting game for NG right?
Pushka
06-01-2008, 23:44
lol, I missed that earlier message Push. But my call to NG stands (Just ignore the message to you, make it sound like a responce I guess =-P), so now we sit back and play the waiting game for NG right?

Basically yes.
Cotland
07-01-2008, 15:02
OMG! (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Turningpointstatue.png)

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty is an upcoming first-person shooter, developed by Spark Unlimited for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC involving an alternate reality in which Winston Churchill dies in 1931, eight years before the start of World War II. Without Churchill's strong leadership, Europe falls to German and Axis forces and is used as a buffer to successfully capture Washington, D.C. in the United States. The Nazis then install a puppet president with the name Stevenson. Not much more is known about this game at this time. Release is set for early 2008.

Will I play this game? Most likely, but not until after I've played GTA IV. :)
Marimaia
07-01-2008, 17:10
Mari, I left something for you offsite.

Read and replied to.

I'll be posting some stuff in 'Red Star Over the East' soon as well, simply to show what's going on in the UER now that the Eastasian dream is a reality. This may include a new national anthem, designed to represent the unified glory of the Asian peoples (or something like that).
Nerotika
07-01-2008, 17:35
Alright so I may not have ever finished any of my story's before hand but I came up with one recently that I believe will provide that interesting story I need so I dont get caught up in being bored...=-P

Anyway, its called "Loyalty" and although I dont have a full plotline written out I do have a good start, here's a little excerpt.


Rain poured down the windows outside the lounge where an elderly man, late 60's it appeared, sat. His age defined by the mix of black and grey hair combed parted to the left. Stubbles of grey outlined his chin and his posture was that of a relaxed form resting easily in the black leather chair, one of a set that were placed infront of a fireplace with a similar couch to the left across a large window covered in red drapes. His eye's were darting back and forth across the newpaper, an article on the front page in bold letters said "Council Government Takes Office." a note to the fall of the soviet regime. As he read a sudden noise caught his attention, behind him a younger man, with very resimblant features to the older man, entered the room. Although this was the older man's house, a place where no one else lived, and he was not expecting company he seemed unalarmed by the younger man's pressence. The stranger sat down on the couch to the left of the man, he said nothing and waited as he placed a large silvery object on his lap. As the two men sat in the lounge room a calm came over the elderly man, he knew what was about to occur and yet he said nothing and did not protest. The younger man stood up, a good amount of time had passed since the younger man had entered the room and he had waited patiently for the elderly man to finish reading his paper. Now all caught up on the news the man rested back into his chair and closed his eye's awaiting his oncoming demise. The younger man walked behind him, placed the large barrel of the silenced pistol to the back of the man's head and fired a single shot putting the man's face into his own lap. The younger man turned away and left the room without a word.

Basically its about the "New" syndicate which was established in the USR state before the council's took over. The Syndicate was created to organize the state's "illegal" practices which would be selling drugs, weapons and other sorts to outside groups and countries. The syndicate also was ran as the state's secret police, it's leader Igor Petrolovsk was on the verge of disbanding the syndicate under the new government system as it had no purpose anymore, his son however wanted to continue running things even if forced to go underground to do things. The syndicate broke into two factions then, those supporting Igor and those supporting his son and eventually those under Igor left but the information they had was to valuable for them to continue to know and so Igor's son began sending out hitman to eliminate every former member and Igor himself causing the council state to counter the actions and start a "War" against the group.[Igor's son remains nameless throughout most of this story...kinda some suspence]
Layarteb
08-01-2008, 03:43
TOA, something special in teh sekrit layer.
Saint Lazare
08-01-2008, 05:10
so... who wants to kill Singha?
Pyschotika
08-01-2008, 06:35
So how were the Holidays guys?

Oh, and, as a New Years' sort of Wish..and..Comment..

I've been thinking, and trust me it's sort of popped in my mind a few times plenty this past month or so [and, at times, before] about the whole ordeal that happened and such..and sort of about how awkward it feels to coming onto NS and feeling like something ain't right..so, I thought I would [honestly] post an actual apologize of sorts, and sort of settle this. -

Whenever it was, February or so I think, I was going through a stupid phase. Hell, from when I joined up till about August of 07 I was going through a stupid phase. I was erratic, eccentric, hell even bipolar at times. I would even start talking shit, getting defensive over apparently nothing, and you know the rest. [Well, most of you..the oldies..you..old farts you..] So..I know some of you are still a bit 'scorned' over it, not that I mean you're angry and all hateful over it. No, not that at all..just I know it sits there in your mind somewhere, especially when something like this pops up in the thread.

Sorry it's sort of late..so I'll just get to the point maybe. I was immature, and a lot of what I did and said here was unwarranted. Hell, there's no hiding it even from my self.. I was just being an asshole, a dirty immature child at best. If I could have it any other way, I would. Though, we can't do that..this is real life, so we can't just go to war and say "Oops, my bad..ignore that, please.", but we can at least recognize the faults of our own actions, and learn to be mature about things, admit our mistakes, and apologize. So..

I'm sorry for the hurtful things I've said, and for how I've acted here. I hope that you guys can accept that I was a different person before, and that when you read this that you realize I mean it. I'm not expecting 'some' of you to necessarily forgive me, but I do expect the lot of you to feel a bit better over this. Also, I can't really hide this either, but I hope to someday return to the Community. And, no, not as my old nation. In a way, that was apart of my immaturity. That was apart of a network of psychotic brain farts that lead to the defacing of how decent of a guy I really am in the real world. All I want, really, is just to feel like I can come here and post and talk with my old friends again, without feeling like an outcast. Though, all things are set in paths..and no one person can entirely be sure where that ends.

And, so [and/so are common in this post..heh.], I hope that I can at least clean this crappy image I've left of my self, and to help erase any awkward feelings that may still exist [whether infrequent/passive or not]. Hope the Holidays went well, and the wars plentiful.

That's that.

P.S. - Lay, sorry for the personal shit I stirred between you and I.

-Joe
RomeW
08-01-2008, 10:11
<snip>

Have you contacted Layarteb or Marimaia first before coming here? They're the ones who will ultimately determine if you get to come back, not the rest of us.
Cotland
08-01-2008, 10:17
so... who wants to kill Singha?

Me! Me! Me! ::raises hand while jumping up and down::

:)
Pyschotika
08-01-2008, 23:41
Well, Rome, I don't personally see why I need to ask to apologize..which is the main reason for posting.

Also, Mari's a bit busy as of late and Lay doesn't seem to want to talk outside of NS..let alone at all.
Tristan Providence
09-01-2008, 04:27
Chapter 1, Daughters of the Reich Is Completed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13240794#post13240794) I'll have the next instalment up when I'm a good bit done with my invasion of Former Tyrandis. Any comments on Down Under so far?
Saint Lazare
09-01-2008, 04:47
Me! Me! Me! ::raises hand while jumping up and down::

:)

whoa there doogie! we've got a competition to get to kill Singha! and I'm eager to end it ASAP too. But......... oh what the hell. FFA!
Pushka
09-01-2008, 06:45
Yo Lay, let the kid come back, he even apologized and we do need active RPers. Plus if he rants again then you can ban him again and case closed forever, just give him the benefit of the doubt. Atleast give him like a probation period.
Pyschotika
09-01-2008, 06:55
Yo Lay, let the kid come back, he even apologized and we do need active RPers. Plus if he rants again then you can ban him again and case closed forever, just give him the benefit of the doubt. Atleast give him like a probation period.

Hah, don't forget..

My past put me on a one last chance dealy too, so..

You wouldn't even have to worry about kicking me off of EII, pretty sure someone like Fris would be on my canning like white on rice..ah, such a cliche'd...saying..thing..
United States of Brink
09-01-2008, 08:14
Wouldn't mind some new/old blood.
RomeW
09-01-2008, 09:07
Well, Rome, I don't personally see why I need to ask to apologize..which is the main reason for posting.

Also, Mari's a bit busy as of late and Lay doesn't seem to want to talk outside of NS..let alone at all.

All right, I'm sorry- I shouldn't have asked.

I must admit, you didn't endear me with how you acted before you left, but it's been almost a year since that all came down and I'm willing to put things behind me, so I'll endorse a second chance.
Hirgizstan
09-01-2008, 17:11
Chapter 1, Daughters of the Reich Is Completed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13240794#post13240794) I'll have the next instalment up when I'm a good bit done with my invasion of Former Tyrandis. Any comments on Down Under so far?

I didn't see the deaths coming, pretty good scene that, with the silencers 'squeaking'. Great RP so far, please continue.
Nerotika
09-01-2008, 18:53
Chapter 1, Daughters of the Reich Is Completed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13240794#post13240794) I'll have the next instalment up when I'm a good bit done with my invasion of Former Tyrandis. Any comments on Down Under so far?

I must say, a very surprising turn of events here. Did not at all suspect what happend, in all very well written and very good. Hope to see more.
Nerotika
09-01-2008, 23:27
A bit a change in my state, The capital of Nerotika has been switched from Kirov to Grozny Chechnya with the declaration of safty meaning the area has been concidered clear for nerotikan political figures to takeover the policed states. So if you will Lay can you change that on the statistics sheet along with uping my pop. by 10 mill...as well as adding the territories I claimed awhile back =-P...whenever you get the time I suppose.
Spizania
09-01-2008, 23:55
The Grand Fleet (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547180)

So it begins
Nerotika
10-01-2008, 03:27
Loyalty (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13359748&posted=1#post13359748)

I have only a bit of it posted...im disputing the rest of Chapter one with myself, but I wanted it posted so I could get that out of the way.
Pushka
10-01-2008, 04:45
A bit a change in my state, The capital of Nerotika has been switched from Kirov to Grozny Chechnya with the declaration of safty meaning the area has been concidered clear for nerotikan political figures to takeover the policed states. So if you will Lay can you change that on the statistics sheet along with uping my pop. by 10 mill...as well as adding the territories I claimed awhile back =-P...whenever you get the time I suppose.

Ah...you wanna wait till the whole thing between me, you and NG is over before switching capitols?
Pushka
10-01-2008, 05:05
In other news, shittiest 3 months of my life are about to begin next monday, part-time college/full time job will suck balls. Also I may be permanently moving to Canada this summer and starting fresh on education and job thing if I feel like it, my dad wants to send me in on a recon mission before going where himself. Which means I get a free apartment to myself and enjoy all the benefits that come from the Canadian drinking age which as I understand is lower then 21 plus it will be the first time I will live somewhere that doesn't have between 1 and 200 nukes pointed at it which is fun too.
Cotland
10-01-2008, 11:17
In other news, shittiest 3 months of my life are about to begin next monday, part-time college/full time job will suck balls. Also I may be permanently moving to Canada this summer and starting fresh on education and job thing if I feel like it, my dad wants to send me in on a recon mission before going where himself. Which means I get a free apartment to myself and enjoy all the benefits that come from the Canadian drinking age which as I understand is lower then 21 plus it will be the first time I will live somewhere that doesn't have between 1 and 200 nukes pointed at it which is fun too.

Hehe. Yeah, it's always fun to be in a place where you don't have to worry about getting a nuke or ten in the head at any given moment. Good luck to you Pushka.
Hirgizstan
10-01-2008, 14:49
The Grand Fleet (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547180)

So it begins

Just to let you know, if you want GAR you have to go through me first.

You know what Spiz, you got me thinking. And I think everyone should hear this-
we're usually always cauught up in the whole Pushka Vs. TOA thing and one side always blames for the other for war and instability. But the fact of the matter is more war and instability and problems around the world have been caused by Spizania. Think about it, his crazy nuclear episode, the anti-satellite space thing that put us all on edge, and now this. Spizania, you, not Pushka nor the TOA, are the single biggest cause of instability on NS.
Nerotika
10-01-2008, 15:56
Ah...you wanna wait till the whole thing between me, you and NG is over before switching capitols?

actually...the point of me switching capitals is so I dont have to worry about Kirov getting fuckzored if things go wronge...sooo no I dont wanna wait =-P. Plus theres another reason to me switching which will reveal itself soon enough.
Tristan Providence
10-01-2008, 16:28
Just to let you know, if you want GAR you have to go through me first.

You know what Spiz, you got me thinking. And I think everyone should hear this-
we're usually always cauught up in the whole Pushka Vs. TOA thing and one side always blames for the other for war and instability. But the fact of the matter is more war and instability and problems around the world have been caused by Spizania. Think about it, his crazy nuclear episode, the anti-satellite space thing that put us all on edge, and now this. Spizania, you, not Pushka nor the TOA, are the single biggest cause of instability on NS.

Thanks Man, But before we get in to the rumble of things I have some OOC stuff for spiz to look over in regards to his first post.
Cotland
10-01-2008, 16:31
actually...the point of me switching capitals is so I dont have to worry about Kirov getting fuckzored if things go wronge...sooo no I dont wanna wait =-P. Plus theres another reason to me switching which will reveal itself soon enough.

What's that? Pushka raping your country or me invading Kirov?
Tristan Providence
10-01-2008, 16:44
Rome, Lay, and Hirg TG.
Nerotika
10-01-2008, 17:57
What's that? Pushka raping your country or me invading Kirov?

Well at first I wasnt worried about you invading...but im not so sure about that anymore, and pushka, well...I just dont trust him anymore. Basically I want this thing to end, i've accepted my mistake and I want to go into talks but with NG MIA and Pushka still on my untrustworthy side I feel I need to at least make Grozny a temp capital for the time being, a safe distance away from your bombardments and his military. (I can at least trust OK not to fuck me over for the time being, and are you really mad at me enough to bother him so you can put military there and bombard me from that area?)

Also the other reason has nothing to do with this conflict, im just waiting to see if things go the way they need to in order for the little "Surprise" to reveal itself. Nothing to do with war or anything, just something special.
Spizania
10-01-2008, 19:32
Think about it, his crazy nuclear episode, the anti-satellite space thing that put us all on edge, and now this. Spizania, you, not Pushka nor the TOA, are the single biggest cause of instability on NS.
Im not going to start a OCC Flamefest, but i do note that the first person to use nuclear weapons offensively in a way that the laws of physics allow them to have harmed anyone was Cotland, after he launched an unprovoked strategic attack on my air defence network, (which is considered by most RL strategic planners to be the thing that immediately precedes a strategic strike) and therefore i responded with force that was less than that used against me. When cotland then escalated it to a full scale genocide i responded with the only effective weapon at my disposal.
Pyschotika
10-01-2008, 20:00
Just to let you know, if you want GAR you have to go through me first.

You know what Spiz, you got me thinking. And I think everyone should hear this-
we're usually always cauught up in the whole Pushka Vs. TOA thing and one side always blames for the other for war and instability. But the fact of the matter is more war and instability and problems around the world have been caused by Spizania. Think about it, his crazy nuclear episode, the anti-satellite space thing that put us all on edge, and now this. Spizania, you, not Pushka nor the TOA, are the single biggest cause of instability on NS.

Hey, that isn't very nice..

Besides, I thought I held that title.
RomeW
10-01-2008, 21:04
In other news, shittiest 3 months of my life are about to begin next monday, part-time college/full time job will suck balls. Also I may be permanently moving to Canada this summer and starting fresh on education and job thing if I feel like it, my dad wants to send me in on a recon mission before going where himself. Which means I get a free apartment to myself and enjoy all the benefits that come from the Canadian drinking age which as I understand is lower then 21 plus it will be the first time I will live somewhere that doesn't have between 1 and 200 nukes pointed at it which is fun too.

Which province? The drinking age depends on where you're going to. I'm in Ontario which is 19. Quebec and Manitoba are 18 and I believe so is Saskatchewan but I don't remember that offhand.

Enjoy our great country...just one thing: our weather's not as nice as Carolina :p.
Nerotika
10-01-2008, 22:38
Enjoy our great country...just one thing: our weather's not as nice as Carolina :p.

heh you wanna talk about weather...lol weirdest shit just happened here in Nebraska. It was snowing this morning, cloudy sky and everything. Suddenly about midway through the sun came out, the snow (Which was pretty thick flakes and was actually staying on the ground for the most part) completely stopped and melted away and it went from really cold to relativly warm all in a matter of two hours. After all that now, suns shining and everything looks nice but now its fucking cold as fuck again....I hate nebraska weather...I hate it sooo much.
Nerotika
11-01-2008, 01:55
Note - I've added another post to loyalty...after reading some other stories here I figured I should add in a little gore, not much just a fireing squad is all. The chapter should be done tommorrow sence I hit another brick wall in the remaining and I dont know if I should cut it where im at and start chapter two or make chapter one longer than I wanted it...and really I cant post what I have without making the story confusing...
Pushka
11-01-2008, 05:05
Just to let you know, if you want GAR you have to go through me first.

You know what Spiz, you got me thinking. And I think everyone should hear this-
we're usually always cauught up in the whole Pushka Vs. TOA thing and one side always blames for the other for war and instability. But the fact of the matter is more war and instability and problems around the world have been caused by Spizania. Think about it, his crazy nuclear episode, the anti-satellite space thing that put us all on edge, and now this. Spizania, you, not Pushka nor the TOA, are the single biggest cause of instability on NS.

Hey man, common, I thought from your perspective I was teh evil. Meh...fucking Spizania. But wait I was the one who attacked him at Baker and started that whole thing he did go crazy with nukes though and then TOA decided to move in for no apparent reason and then he took the satellites out...so I guess Spiz is crazy but all of us are responsible for provoking the crazy man holding the gun.
Pushka
11-01-2008, 05:08
Which province? The drinking age depends on where you're going to. I'm in Ontario which is 19. Quebec and Manitoba are 18 and I believe so is Saskatchewan but I don't remember that offhand.

Enjoy our great country...just one thing: our weather's not as nice as Carolina :p.

Toronto probably, don't know which province, I think Ontario also no? I've been to Toronto winter break 2006, some parts reminded me of Krilatskie Holmi, its on the outskirts of Moscow where I used to live plus the snow of course. We'll see about this whole moving thing, but at least I got the next three months planned out solid.
Pushka
11-01-2008, 05:10
actually...the point of me switching capitals is so I dont have to worry about Kirov getting fuckzored if things go wronge...sooo no I dont wanna wait =-P. Plus theres another reason to me switching which will reveal itself soon enough.

I hate to be the douche in this since I want that conflict resolved peacefully, but eh, how are you going to get there? Chechnya isn't connected to your mainland in any way, plus in terms of RL such an action would kinda work against all the sides agreeing to the ceasefire. Plus right now its frozen, so my troops are still on the way to your capitol and you are still fighting NG down south, once NG comes back we can get the cease fire going. I am not going to make any RP posts about attacking you at the very least until we see whats up with the ceasefire, basically right now the conflict is frozen in time.
Pushka
11-01-2008, 05:12
Hehe. Yeah, it's always fun to be in a place where you don't have to worry about getting a nuke or ten in the head at any given moment. Good luck to you Pushka.

Thanks man, hey we got to talk sometime.
Nerotika
11-01-2008, 06:07
Hey man, common, I thought from your perspective I was teh evil. Meh...fucking Spizania. But wait I was the one who attacked him at Baker and started that whole thing he did go crazy with nukes though and then TOA decided to move in for no apparent reason and then he took the satellites out...so I guess Spiz is crazy but all of us are responsible for provoking the crazy man holding the gun.

Like the japs and the US with the atom bombings ^.^
Nerotika
11-01-2008, 06:18
I hate to be the douche in this since I want that conflict resolved peacefully, but eh, how are you going to get there? Chechnya isn't connected to your mainland in any way, plus in terms of RL such an action would kinda work against all the sides agreeing to the ceasefire. Plus right now its frozen, so my troops are still on the way to your capitol and you are still fighting NG down south, once NG comes back we can get the cease fire going. I am not going to make any RP posts about attacking you at the very least until we see whats up with the ceasefire, basically right now the conflict is frozen in time.

Yeah I thought of that too...and it would be better to make the move once this is all settled, I can use it for the safty of my men in case things somehow go sour after the conflict. For the time being though I am not keeping my capital in Kirov, or at least my federal council won't be settled there. Also, if your committed to settling this then why would a non-military convoy moving past your troops be a problem?

Along with that, I will be setting up a parimeter around Kirov and although I don't want to provoke anything I cannot simply let your troops walk into the city so if you give me the reason I will open fire. At least hold your position until delegates settle this issue...

Also if I do end up moving to Grozny, Rome any chance I could ask for a safe route into there?
Pushka
11-01-2008, 06:46
Yeah I thought of that too...and it would be better to make the move once this is all settled, I can use it for the safty of my men in case things somehow go sour after the conflict. For the time being though I am not keeping my capital in Kirov, or at least my federal council won't be settled there. Also, if your committed to settling this then why would a non-military convoy moving past your troops be a problem?

Along with that, I will be setting up a parimeter around Kirov and although I don't want to provoke anything I cannot simply let your troops walk into the city so if you give me the reason I will open fire. At least hold your position until delegates settle this issue...

Also if I do end up moving to Grozny, Rome any chance I could ask for a safe route into there?

The thing is that since the conflict is frozen in time that means as far as the RP is concerned time shouldn't move at all. But eh, I don't really have a big problem with this, just pointing out that does make things a little awkward.
Nerotika
11-01-2008, 07:32
The thing is that since the conflict is frozen in time that means as far as the RP is concerned time shouldn't move at all. But eh, I don't really have a big problem with this, just pointing out that does make things a little awkward.

I understand that, but even with time stopping it stopped with your troops still moving toward Kirov, I was thinking we could update the RP a little bit, after all if im gunna pull my men back I should stop reinforcments from arriving to the front along with that I need to put my men around the city in defence.
Pushka
11-01-2008, 07:57
I understand that, but even with time stopping it stopped with your troops still moving toward Kirov, I was thinking we could update the RP a little bit, after all if im gunna pull my men back I should stop reinforcments from arriving to the front along with that I need to put my men around the city in defence.

Well, the point of my attack was to play on the element of surprise. You found out that I was planning to attack you simply because I started moving troops, which is also a bit awkward but I let that go already, now however you want to build up your city defensless while my troops are stuck in a time bubble less then a day's journey away from your capitol? Ehm, I don't know dude, does that sound reasonable to you?
RomeW
11-01-2008, 10:30
heh you wanna talk about weather...lol weirdest shit just happened here in Nebraska. It was snowing this morning, cloudy sky and everything. Suddenly about midway through the sun came out, the snow (Which was pretty thick flakes and was actually staying on the ground for the most part) completely stopped and melted away and it went from really cold to relativly warm all in a matter of two hours. After all that now, suns shining and everything looks nice but now its fucking cold as fuck again....I hate nebraska weather...I hate it sooo much.

Ah, the Cornhusker State...you're kind of in a rough spot there, in the middle of the Continent, out in the open (and thus prone to wildly divergent temperatures). We got rain here- but now it's howling winds and the temperature is supposed to plummet again. :( At least you're lucky- if you want to pack up and move to Florida you can do it without restriction (legally, anyway). I only wish I didn't have to do the same thing* :(.

*By that I mean immigration...it's a quagmire.

Toronto probably, don't know which province, I think Ontario also no? I've been to Toronto winter break 2006, some parts reminded me of Krilatskie Holmi, its on the outskirts of Moscow where I used to live plus the snow of course. We'll see about this whole moving thing, but at least I got the next three months planned out solid.

Cool! As I live near Toronto myself, yes it's in Ontario and our drinking age is 19. I'm going to guess the parts you're referring to is the Danforth- that's predominantly an Eastern European part of town...been there once ("Taste of the Danforth (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste of the Danforth)") and was a pretty nice experience...coincided with Greece's Euro 2004 win so that helped too :D. Are there other places you might be going to as well?

Rome any chance I could ask for a safe route into there?

Okay, although I don't know how I can do this with the RP frozen...regardless, though, I do believe I called for a peace conference...can we get that moving?
Pyschotika
11-01-2008, 12:14
Ah, the Cornhusker State...you're kind of in a rough spot there, in the middle of the Continent, out in the open (and thus prone to wildly divergent temperatures). We got rain here- but now it's howling winds and the temperature is supposed to plummet again. :( At least you're lucky- if you want to pack up and move to Florida you can do it without restriction (legally, anyway). I only wish I didn't have to do the same thing* :(.

*By that I mean immigration...it's a quagmire.


*snip*

Nah, it's really not that bad..

We're quite a pea..

Oh, wait..the weather? Fuck -_-.

You've got noooo idea.

To the Whole War Bit -

Well, you guys could still sort of set it up so when 'time unfreezes' for that area he can have it moved. But, then again, it shouldn't bother him if NG isn't responding atm because he's busy. Should still be allowed to RP, though I could be missing something here so meh.

Going to TG Mari later on..
Hirgizstan
12-01-2008, 00:23
Lay, Mari- we are in need of some moderation here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13363895&postcount=10

This is part of Spizania's Fleet that he claims he is able to support. I claim he is not based on his status on E2. I don't want to start a flame war on that thread so I'm bringing this here. I say he needs to disclose ALL of his military assets like most of us already have so scrutiny can be given.
Marimaia
12-01-2008, 02:59
Lay, Mari- we are in need of some moderation here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13363895&postcount=10

This is part of Spizania's Fleet that he claims he is able to support. I claim he is not based on his status on E2. I don't want to start a flame war on that thread so I'm bringing this here. I say he needs to disclose ALL of his military assets like most of us already have so scrutiny can be given.

It's only fair that since the vast majority of us have declared our militaries, Spiz should as well. He's been here long enough.
Pushka
12-01-2008, 04:25
Cool! As I live near Toronto myself, yes it's in Ontario and our drinking age is 19. I'm going to guess the parts you're referring to is the Danforth- that's predominantly an Eastern European part of town...been there once ("Taste of the Danforth (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste of the Danforth)") and was a pretty nice experience...coincided with Greece's Euro 2004 win so that helped too :D. Are there other places you might be going to as well?

No idea dude, my dad is buying the apartment and I don't know where although I'm certain now it will be in Toronto since one of his businesses is based there. Moving thing is certainly a decision that I will have to make, on one hand change of scenery might be a good thing, on another I already got friends here meh, I'll make the choice some time closer to the summer.

Okay, although I don't know how I can do this with the RP frozen...regardless, though, I do believe I called for a peace conference...can we get that moving?

Well I would love to get that thing settled and over with but the thing is we kinda need NG here before we can proceed. He hasn't even agreed to the ceasefire or the peace talks yet and its kinda pointless if only 2 out of 3 warring nations participate in the peace talks.
Hawdawg
12-01-2008, 06:03
I am back finally. Damn COD4 is addicting.

I have to bail for the weekend but I will be checking in on Sunday.

-Hawdawg
Pushka
12-01-2008, 06:47
I am back finally. Damn COD4 is addicting.

I have to bail for the weekend but I will be checking in on Sunday.

-Hawdawg

COD4 is the shit.
RomeW
12-01-2008, 07:31
No idea dude, my dad is buying the apartment and I don't know where although I'm certain now it will be in Toronto since one of his businesses is based there. Moving thing is certainly a decision that I will have to make, on one hand change of scenery might be a good thing, on another I already got friends here meh, I'll make the choice some time closer to the summer.

It'd be cool if you came up here...that way I'm not alone in the Frozen Tundra here on E2...but that is a hard choice. Is there anyone you know in Toronto (other than myself, of course, but we've never actually met)? Personally I'd stick with Carolina since the weather's nicer, but I don't know how else things are like down there so I can't make much of a judgement there either way.

Well I would love to get that thing settled and over with but the thing is we kinda need NG here before we can proceed. He hasn't even agreed to the ceasefire or the peace talks yet and its kinda pointless if only 2 out of 3 warring nations participate in the peace talks.

True. NG, if you're reading we need you to weigh in on this...
Pushka
12-01-2008, 09:26
It'd be cool if you came up here...that way I'm not alone in the Frozen Tundra here on E2...but that is a hard choice. Is there anyone you know in Toronto (other than myself, of course, but we've never actually met)? Personally I'd stick with Carolina since the weather's nicer, but I don't know how else things are like down there so I can't make much of a judgement there either way.

Weather isn't an issue, I've seen it, I've also seen worse back in Russia. I don't know anyone at the moment no but I've been around the world enough to know that you can find people to hang out with almost anywhere. But this is all still too far away to worry about.
Hirgizstan
12-01-2008, 22:45
Cot, check TG's.
Cotland
13-01-2008, 01:07
Cot, check TG's.

Replied.
Pushka
13-01-2008, 01:52
Mari check TGs.
Layarteb
13-01-2008, 04:08
Totalis' Revenge (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547368)

A little RP between Pushka and I. It isn't closed but it sort of isn't wide open either so please ask us if you want to join in so this way we can properly plan for it as this is sort of a planned RP.

Synopsis is simple: Argentinians attack the Falklands

Will it incite a World War?!?!?!?!? POSSIBLE!!!

Edit -> Post 21666 Coincidence?
Pushka
13-01-2008, 10:37
Lay I need to talk to you before I make the first post.
Marimaia
13-01-2008, 12:25
Mari check TGs.

Checked and mulling over, will reply shortly.
Nerotika
14-01-2008, 09:49
when's the soccer gunna start playin?...just wanna know
Pushka
14-01-2008, 17:49
Just came back from my first class this semester, you know, I think my brain already awakened a little bit after the sleep it was put in by daily 8 hours of manual labor for the past 7 months (shit it really has been that long). Still have to do the labor but atleast my grey matter is good for something too now, feels good, I actually want to learn this time around. Yeah, so my schedule changed completely because of this, I am getting up earlier now so I'll be doing most of my RPing/talking about RPs in the morning US eastern time, which means that I will no longer annoy the people who are online during the night hours, such as Layarteb, life goes on.
Cotland
14-01-2008, 18:42
I just noticed that Cocos (Keeling) Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_%28Keeling%29_Islands) haven't been claimed by anyone, so I'm claiming them for the Realm.
Cotland
14-01-2008, 20:24
Official Statement

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1695/riksvpenys0.png

Yesterday, military forces of the vile Nazi State of the “Greater” Australian Reich deliberately and without provocation opened fire on a submarine belonging to the Royal Cottish Navy in international waters without attempting to identify or communicate with the submarine, which was on a peaceful routine patrol in international waters, as the Realm has reserved the right to carry out in several areas, including the Protection of the Realm Act ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465139)’s Article Fourteen, which reads:

§ 14.1: The naval assets of the Realm reserves the right to maintain constant patrols in international waters.

This Act has been ratified by all major nation states in the world since its introduction in 2006, and it clearly outlines the security policy of the Realm. Now, this Act has been violated through the senseless and deliberate attack upon the Realm’s submarine. The consequences of any such violations are clearly outlined in the next article in the Act, Article Fifteeen, which reads:

§ 15.1: Any engagement or attack against any aircraft, unit or vessel belonging to the Realm in an international zone will be regarded as an act of war against the Realm.

It is quite clear to any person with a whiff of brain activity that opening fire on a submerged submarine with live torpedoes constitutes an attack against said submarine. Fortunately in this case, the incompetence of the Nazi attackers, the great skill of the submarine’s crew and a solid dose of luck allowed the Cottish submarine to avoid destruction, but the breach of the Protection of the Realm Act remains. The national security of the Realm has been attacked, and the Realm must reply in kind. We demand that the base on Christmas Island that the aircraft which attacked our submarine operate from must be removed from Nazi hands to prevent further unfortunate incidents such as the one which took place yesterday. Normally, this would be carried out through the use of a massive strike against said base, which would render the base useless for the immediate future.

However, the Realm is a peaceful nation and wishes to find a peaceful and more permanent way of ending this incident favorably for both the Realm and the Nazi State of the “Greater” Australian Reich. Therefore, we demand that the Nazi state of the “Greater” Australian Reich cede Christmas Island in its entirety to the Realm peacefully and remove all its citizens and military equipment from the island. We cannot trust the “Greater” Australian Reich to prevent its incompetent military from performing further such blunders in the Indian Ocean, and see no other option than to remove the problem entirely and permanently. Furthermore, we demand that the “Greater” Australian Reich pledge a vow of honor that it will never attempt to retake Christmas Island from Cottish hands.

If the “Greater” Australian Reich agrees to these demands, the Realm shall regard the incident as closed and shall conduct no military actions against the “Greater” Australian Reich as a consequence of their attacking our submarine. On that, the “Greater” Australian Reich and indeed the world have His Majesty the King’s personal guarantee. However, if these terms have not been agreed to in full within 12 noon Oslo time in five days, the Realm shall consider the proposal to be rejected and a state of war shall exist between the Realm of Cotland and the Nazi state of the “Greater” Australian Reich. Any further attacks upon any Cottish military assets within that time will also be considered as a refusal of the terms offered and will result in war being declared.

In closing, we shall repeat our demands to the “Greater” Australian Reich leadership: Cede Christmas Island and agree to withdraw all civilians and military equipment within 12 noon Oslo time on the Seventeenth of January 2008, or war will be declared.


[signed]
The Realm of Cotland
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Nerotika
14-01-2008, 20:52
However, the Realm is a peaceful nation...

HA...thats all, just HA. (Though i've only had bad experiences with you soo im not one to talk)
Tristan Providence
15-01-2008, 05:53
HA...thats all, just HA. (Though i've only had bad experiences with you soo im not one to talk)

Actually I agree with you.... haha No offense Cot.
Hirgizstan
16-01-2008, 21:11
Cot- Check TG's.
Hawdawg
17-01-2008, 06:12
I posted a little blurb in the Grand Fleet action but be advised I am going to be out of pocket until early monday morning via a business trip. I can't guarantee I will have internet at the hotel that I am staying at.

-Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
17-01-2008, 20:33
Tristan- check TG's please.
Pushka
18-01-2008, 04:20
Hirgy check TGs. Yo Rome, we going to get the space thing going again?
RomeW
18-01-2008, 04:56
Hirgy check TGs. Yo Rome, we going to get the space thing going again?

I'd like to...this Australia thing has been a bit of a distraction. How many of us are there? We need to get more people involved.
RomeW
18-01-2008, 05:19
The Roman Empire is asking for a meeting between members of the International Space Research Centre project, which we propose take place in Rome unless others feel another venue would be more suitable. We are also reaching out to the global community to other countries who would like to participate in the project and invite them to this meeting as well. Please contact the Roman Curia for more information:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543198
Pushka
18-01-2008, 06:10
I think its just you and me right now, Doganya seems to have left EII altogether as he hasn't been posting for a while...
RomeW
18-01-2008, 08:45
I think its just you and me right now, Doganya seems to have left EII altogether as he hasn't been posting for a while...

In that case then, let's bounce some ideas off in that thread.
Pushka
18-01-2008, 19:19
In that case then, let's bounce some ideas off in that thread.

Sounds good, I might not be here this weekend though well I was planning to go see my friends in another city but if the roads are frozen due to the fact that God hates me I might have to stay home...Honestly, it snowed east, west, north and south of Raleigh two days ago, but NO!!! we just got rain and I still had to go to work and today we don't even have rain so I am once again going to work (and our loader team is one man short at the moment so that sucks), but on Saturday we will most likely have snow because Jesus is pissed at me and wants to fuck up my weekend plans. Meh.
Nerotika
18-01-2008, 22:29
Sounds good, I might not be here this weekend though well I was planning to go see my friends in another city but if the roads are frozen due to the fact that God hates me I might have to stay home...Honestly, it snowed east, west, north and south of Raleigh two days ago, but NO!!! we just got rain and I still had to go to work and today we don't even have rain so I am once again going to work (and our loader team is one man short at the moment so that sucks), but on Saturday we will most likely have snow because Jesus is pissed at me and wants to fuck up my weekend plans. Meh.

lol, don't worry Jesus is mad at everyone these day's...he assinated 'the next president' (A very nice peice) for making drunken jokes at his expense. Oh and where I live, we basically get shitted on by weather...like I said before, this place has the weirdest fucken weather, so much snow it was a white out only two days ago and now its almost all melted and the sun is shinning bright.
Marimaia
18-01-2008, 23:51
Rome's recent comments have reminded me.....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543284


Shall those of us participating in the 'Great Leap Upward' start throwing money and expertise at the project?
Hawdawg
19-01-2008, 03:32
Sounds good, I might not be here this weekend though well I was planning to go see my friends in another city but if the roads are frozen due to the fact that God hates me I might have to stay home...Honestly, it snowed east, west, north and south of Raleigh two days ago, but NO!!! we just got rain and I still had to go to work and today we don't even have rain so I am once again going to work (and our loader team is one man short at the moment so that sucks), but on Saturday we will most likely have snow because Jesus is pissed at me and wants to fuck up my weekend plans. Meh.

lol, don't worry Jesus is mad at everyone these day's...he assinated 'the next president' (A very nice peice) for making drunken jokes at his expense. Oh and where I live, we basically get shitted on by weather...like I said before, this place has the weirdest fucken weather, so much snow it was a white out only two days ago and now its almost all melted and the sun is shinning bright.

Don't worry fellas Jesus loves you all. No matter how much you blame him condemn him or generally gripe about him, he still cares about you.

-Hawdawg
Nerotika
19-01-2008, 07:51
Don't worry fellas Jesus loves you all. No matter how much you blame him condemn him or generally gripe about him, he still cares about you.

-Hawdawg

*What follows is a religious rant not suitable for fucktards...read at your own discretion...I say this so no one can be mad that im bashing Jesus -.-*

Jesus don't care...and why should he. People nailed him to two peices of fucken wood man with nails the size of railroad spikes and along with that they beat the living shit out of him. If he was the son of god then god is most likely PISSED at us. Sure they say he saw it coming but I don't believe that, he only gets one superpower and that was the magic ability of water to wine...damn alcoholic...oh and I guess he can have the healing people power too, BUT not seeing the future, cause if he did don't you think he would have said "Fuck the human race, they're gunna kill themselves off anyway why should I die for them?"

Note - By peice, I was hoping Pushka knew what I ment...everyone else im not to sure about, maybe....maybe not eh?
Cotland
19-01-2008, 13:46
Don't worry fellas Jesus loves you all. No matter how much you blame him condemn him or generally gripe about him, he still cares about you.

-Hawdawg

That presumes that you believe in him (something which I don't). I have my own philosophy, which basically revolves around the fact that God is dead and that the human race will eventually fuck itself over, leaving the world to the chimps or any other species smart enough not to go down the shitty path we humans have. [/rant]
Pushka
19-01-2008, 17:31
And I follow das Sphagetti monster! (yeah its really a religion)
Layarteb
20-01-2008, 00:11
Don't worry fellas Jesus loves you all. No matter how much you blame him condemn him or generally gripe about him, he still cares about you.

-Hawdawg

unless you're from New Jersey.

My Current away message:

if they have the [corvette] ZR1 concept at the auto show i'm going to get arrested for fucking humping it!
Hawdawg
20-01-2008, 04:41
unless you're from New Jersey.

My Current away message:

if they have the [corvette] ZR1 concept at the auto show i'm going to get arrested for fucking humping it!


Yes even the armpit of humanity new jersey.
Azimeth
21-01-2008, 00:39
Hai Guyz Wuts Up Lol
Layarteb
21-01-2008, 01:48
TOA, check TGs and teh sekrit layer!
Layarteb
21-01-2008, 02:03
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Squornshelous: Squornshelous is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his remaining land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).
Tyrandis: Tyrandis is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his remaining land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).





Hirgizstan [Post 21506]: Thread added.
Tristan [Post 21511]: Thread added.
Tristan/Terronian [Post 21582]: Land exchanged.
Spiz [Post 21628]: Thread added.
Cot [Post 21670]: Claim added.








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Pushka
21-01-2008, 05:46
I claim Northwest Territories (part), Nunavut (part) from Squorn. I will submit an RP then I wake up tomorrow, around 8:30 in the morningish.
Pushka
21-01-2008, 19:32
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547931

coming back to America
Cotland
21-01-2008, 20:10
Squornshelous: Squornshelous is D12 after he informed me that he would not continue with Earth II. Therefore his remaining land is up for grabs. Roleplaying is required and Mari and I thought it would be better to put a restriction on it so some of the smaller or newer players could tag it. Therefore, the land is only eligible to people who have under 1,000,000 mi² (originally 500,000 but that had too narrow of a group).


Tovarisj Pushka, u forgot to read...
Pushka
21-01-2008, 23:50
Fuck.....
Hawdawg
22-01-2008, 02:40
Hawdawg News Network
(HNN)
Stockholm, Sweden

The 7th ESG supporting the 135th MEU (Cardiff, England) along with the 1st MEF (Stockholm, Sweden) joined forces for joint exercises in the Southern Atlantic. The 1st HEG based out of Gibraltar will act as the mock OPFOR fleet. Operations are expected to take place NW of Gibraltar and will last for 7-10 days. The Defense Department has asked all nations operating vessels in the area be advised.
United States of Brink
22-01-2008, 03:06
unless you're from New Jersey

I only take offense to that comment because you are from New York, from anywhere else I cannot make an argument.

I've been out for like two days or what have ya cause the old computer room was getting a much needed make-over. So Hirg, I'ma be posting tomorrow and then you can run wild in Part II
Layarteb
22-01-2008, 03:06
Hawdawg News Network
(HNN)
Stockholm, Sweden

The 7th ESG supporting the 135th MEU (Cardiff, England) along with the 1st MEF (Stockholm, Sweden) joined forces for joint exercises in the Southern Atlantic. The 1st HEG based out of Gibraltar will act as the mock OPFOR fleet. Operations are expected to take place NW of Gibraltar and will last for 7-10 days. The Defense Department has asked all nations operating vessels in the area be advised.

As of current, all Layartebian forces in TOA-allied nations are hereby raised to heightened alert as Layartebian forces assume REDCON 3 throughout the entirity of the ILM. Layartebian forces in the North Atlantic are hereby placed on immediate and high alert following the receipt of intel of a major terrorist attack against Layartebian bases, cities, and outposts throughout Earth.
Hawdawg
22-01-2008, 03:33
As of current, all Layartebian forces in TOA-allied nations are hereby raised to heightened alert as Layartebian forces assume REDCON 3 throughout the entirity of the ILM. Layartebian forces in the North Atlantic are hereby placed on immediate and high alert following the receipt of intel of a major terrorist attack against Layartebian bases, cities, and outposts throughout Earth.

We have verified through clandestine means this terroristic threat on the EOL. We have taken various steps to ensure Layartebian facilties have all the resources necessary to maintain a safe atmosphere around EOL facilities inside Hawdawgian Territories.
Ottoman Khaif
22-01-2008, 04:11
Press Release from Eurasian Government

In reaction recent events, the Eurasians Front Commands are here by on full readiness mode in till further notice.
Layarteb
22-01-2008, 04:19
I only take offense to that comment because you are from New York, from anywhere else I cannot make an argument.

I've been out for like two days or what have ya cause the old computer room was getting a much needed make-over. So Hirg, I'ma be posting tomorrow and then you can run wild in Part II

hehe!
Azimeth
22-01-2008, 06:09
Looks like North Germania is D12.
Nerotika
22-01-2008, 06:25
Looks like North Germania is D12.

lol, I wish. No he fades away for awhile then pops in randomly to say a few things then fades away again...

I would enjoy him to return again soon though, we need to settle things finally...

meanwhile pushka, can't we just settle our own little differences right now so when things go with NG again I can pull my men away from him and talk directly to him without you hovering over me. I mean, I did nothing to provoke you in any way if anything your coming to the aide of NG which in itself is very surprising...but away from ranting like I did before I would very much like to just have a sit down and talk with a delegate of yours to see about moving your military forces away from my nation and in the peice of land they were suppose to be going to in the first place (speaking of which, concidering the fact that you stuck those forces in my nation and have them barreling down on Kirov, doesn't that leave those western territories unclaimed concidering you never landed forces there?)
Azimeth
22-01-2008, 06:46
I would like to claim Eastern Algeria and Nunavut.
Pushka
22-01-2008, 07:11
lol, I wish. No he fades away for awhile then pops in randomly to say a few things then fades away again...

I would enjoy him to return again soon though, we need to settle things finally...

meanwhile pushka, can't we just settle our own little differences right now so when things go with NG again I can pull my men away from him and talk directly to him without you hovering over me. I mean, I did nothing to provoke you in any way if anything your coming to the aide of NG which in itself is very surprising...but away from ranting like I did before I would very much like to just have a sit down and talk with a delegate of yours to see about moving your military forces away from my nation and in the peice of land they were suppose to be going to in the first place (speaking of which, concidering the fact that you stuck those forces in my nation and have them barreling down on Kirov, doesn't that leave those western territories unclaimed concidering you never landed forces there?)

The forces in your territory were the ones I placed there then your revolution began and also reinforcements for my western most territories that were already occupied by that time. I don't see how this can be solved peaceful by anything less then three party talks unless NG gets officially deleted. I explained before, instead of NG taking your land I would rather take it myself thats my motivation for getting involved although I didn't want this conflict to start to begin with but you decided that for all of us. Anyways I don't know what to do.
Nerotika
22-01-2008, 07:39
The forces in your territory were the ones I placed there then your revolution began and also reinforcements for my western most territories that were already occupied by that time. I don't see how this can be solved peaceful by anything less then three party talks unless NG gets officially deleted. I explained before, instead of NG taking your land I would rather take it myself thats my motivation for getting involved although I didn't want this conflict to start to begin with but you decided that for all of us. Anyways I don't know what to do.

well, ok I thought those forces were there because they were just moving through...see I didn't know you had men in there during the revolution. Anyway, if I can talk things over with you it gets that over with and if you want to be involved in talks with NG (Although I see no reason why as he has no quarrel with you, infact your involvment in this is directed as I see it only toward me...and I also see no public alliance between you and NG) Basically if me and you can agree to stand our forces down against each other I can focus my attention on my real issue which is the conflict I started with NG on my own accord.

I did not go to war with him intending to involve anyone else except him, I did expect the TOA to fall in on me and for some reason I went along with it anyway...to my stupidity...but really I asked you only once to aide me and was going to go along with the offensive with or without your help from the get-go. My decision was made for me only and im sure everyone outside this conflict can see that, your action to me was a bit rash but I can't blaim you concidering the prime amount of land you could grab by eliminating me before NG did, or maybe you allied with NG to split my land, either way I think if we stand down against each other and resume our peaceful stance against each other then talks with NG will go much smoother from my POV.
Nerotika
22-01-2008, 08:45
Union Nerotikan News
The Council State of Nerotika

After long discussion with advisor's and his fellow council members chairman Darinsky has decided to step down as chairman of the congressional federal council once the current conflict has been resolved. His decision, he says, in no way effects the way he will go about getting the troops home safely and in a timely manner, as well as settling things with the federation military that threaten's security in the Kirovian state.

Along with this turn of events the new council, enstilled after the arrest and conviction of most of the former council members, have made the decision to move the capital city to Yekaterinburg, Sverdlovsk instead of what was suspected at Grozny in the lower territories. This move will take place once the chairman steps down and is replaced. Speculations on who will replace the chairman are very wide ranging from several parties, the favor of which being Angelina Richards who leads the Nerotikan Socialist Party [NSP] in place of Voloda Darinsky after this announcement of his stepping down. Others include George Lynnin of the Federalist Party [FP], Yuri Ero of the Democratic Party [DP] and Jason Vanulsky of the Nationalist Nerotikan Party [NNP].

Just saying, if Pys is allowed to return I am willing to give up my claim on Lame bum's territory and Chechnya to give to him...
Cotland
22-01-2008, 09:01
In response to the pending terrorist threat, the Realm has increased its military readiness to BERSTAT-3. All law enforcement & military forces stand poised, ready to counter any terrorist threat that may emerge.
[signed]
The Realm of Cotland
Hirgizstan
22-01-2008, 19:11
In response to the pending terrorist threat, the Realm has increased its military readiness to BERSTAT-3. All law enforcement & military forces stand poised, ready to counter any terrorist threat that may emerge.
[signed]
The Realm of Cotland

The Commonwealth is doing likewise.
Hirgizstan
22-01-2008, 19:33
Well, unfortunately, it looks like NG is D12. I will assume that normal decree rulings apply here. I really hope he comes back in the future, but in the mean-time I will take some of his land. I will give this back to him if he decides to return though.

I will claim:

Albania
France
Germany
Switzerland

I also claim western Algeria on behalf of USB who I know wants this area.

Naturally I'll be RPing for these if it's required.
Cotland
22-01-2008, 19:40
Since NG is now D12, I claim Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Montenegro and the Netherlands for the Realm.

I sincerely hope that NG will return in the future, and if he does he'll probably get the lands back. Until then, those areas are getting integrated into the Realm.
Hawdawg
22-01-2008, 19:42
I had hoped NG would resurface, too bad he was a good RP'er. Maybe he will return at a later date. In response to the void created from his D12 status, I am laying claim to the strip of southern England that was in his possession as well as Portugal and Spain. I have fleets in the area and will start a conversion to Hawdawgian Territories RP this afternoon after I return home from work. If he returns I will cede lands back to him, if not I wish him well in his endeavours.

Summary of Claims:

Southern portion of England
Portugal
Spain


That is all.

-Hawdawg
United States of Brink
22-01-2008, 20:08
Thank you Hirg. By the way I just posted the final section of part I and have opened part II.

To Everyone Part II of Land of Sin is really going to open up. It is going to explain ALOT about my nation and its people and will obviously reveal most of the storyline so hopefully things will become more interesting.
Layarteb
22-01-2008, 20:41
The Empire claims the Azores Islands, where we already have forces. Layartebian forces based in Berlin will help secure the city while Layartebian forces deployed to Kazakhstan will be assisting in the capture of Kazakhstan. Layartebian forces in the following areas: Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Romania,
Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan are also on the move to assist in securing these places.

Special Note
While it isn't required, I would like to encourage an actual RP for these lands. NG was a member of E2 since its reopening in Nov '04. I really think we owe that due honor to the place. We should also all decide on a single storyline as to why the NG lands went vacant. Perhaps we can tie in the Portugese rebellion and Spanish succession, the war in Nerotika, and perhaps some sort of other ideas. If not, I guess we can just do as we do.

I would also like to encourage members of the October Alliance to leave as much land as possible open this way we can give others a chance as well as hold some land for newbies. If that is agreeable, I'd like to recommend the Baltics and Balkans for newbies but, again, technically all of this land is open.

Also all those should know the TOA nations have a lot of forces within NG's land and our own. I think it would be adviseable for all of us to share what is what and, with those nations we are not claiming, withdraw our forces properly.
Hirgizstan
22-01-2008, 22:06
I think for NG's claims, the TOA at least, could have one single thread. And if anyone else wants to join in that would be fine. We could create an off-site topic regarding the back-story of NG's decline and I reckon that would satisfy everyone.

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Hirgizstanian military forces in Northern Africa are mobilising to help secure Germany, France, Switzerland and Albania, as well as assisst in operations in Portugal and Spain. Furthermore, all military units stationed in Eurasia and Ukraine will be assissting in securing Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Romania, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 22:23
I would also like to encourage members of the October Alliance to leave as much land as possible open this way we can give others a chance as well as hold some land for newbies. If that is agreeable, I'd like to recommend the Baltics and Balkans for newbies but, again, technically all of this land is open.

I'd like to see that too, but since you guys have already grabbed the vast majority of the most desirable lands, your 'encouragement' seems to come a bit late.

I will of course be checking that no-one has claimed over their limits; if you lot would be so good as to tell me who is actually claiming Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Romania, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan then it would help in that. I assume that in the spirit of fairness you're not going to just allocate them to the alliance member with the least land.
Layarteb
22-01-2008, 22:33
I'd like to see that too, but since you guys have already grabbed the vast majority of the most desirable lands, your 'encouragement' seems to come a bit late.

I will of course be checking that no-one has claimed over their limits; if you lot would be so good as to tell me who is actually claiming Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Romania, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan then it would help in that. I assume that in the spirit of fairness you're not going to just allocate them to the alliance member with the least land.

Ottoman Khaif, I believe.
Cotland
22-01-2008, 22:33
::sighs::

Fine, I'll drop my claim to Montenegro. But Denmark and the BENELUX countries are ICly in the process of becoming the new base for a lot of Cottish Paras and Royal Marines...
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 22:41
Ottoman Khaif, I believe.

Thank you. Just remember to get that RP up within 24 hours (I assume that you're taking it and then handing it over, otherwise he has to post confirmation within 24 hours, yadda yadda etc.)

Sorry about Montenegro Cot, but I think it would be fair to give a newbie a chance to form Yugoslavia or something. I fully agree with Lay, the Balkans (minus Romania and Albania) and the Baltics should be held for new players.
Ottoman Khaif
22-01-2008, 22:49
Ottoman Khaif, I believe.

Yes I confirm this,yet I drop my claim to Romania

Just my claim Kyrgyzstan, Moldova,Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan,Ukraine, and Uzbekistan
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 22:51
Yes I confirm this,yet I drop my claim to Romania

Just my claim Kyrgyzstan, Moldova,Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan

Righto, if no-one objects I'll add Romania to the 'reserved for new guys' list, since it's in the Balkans.
Ottoman Khaif
22-01-2008, 22:55
Righto, if no-one objects I'll add Romania to the 'reserved for new guys' list, since it's in the Balkans.

Mari mind to get on AIM?
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 23:03
Mari mind to get on AIM?

Kazakhstan has been added to OK's claim list; lists from NG's D12 currently stand like this:


Ottoman Khaif - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova,Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan (enforced by Lay and Hirgy)

Cotland - Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands

Hawdawg - Southern portion of England, Portugal, and Spain

Layarteb - Azores

Hirgizstan - Albania, France, Germany, and Switzerland

USB - Algeria (West) (enforced by Hirgy)


Reserved for New Players (going by the traditional definition of the Balkans):

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Kosovo
Latvia
Lithuania
Montenegro
Romania
Serbia
Slovenia
Layarteb
22-01-2008, 23:12
Righto, if no-one objects I'll add Romania to the 'reserved for new guys' list, since it's in the Balkans.

I will withdraw my forces from all territories not immediately claimed by TOA nations. My forces will remain only in: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.

I think also TOA should claim no more land leaving:

Algeria (west)
Altai Krai
Altai Republic
Austria
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bryansk Oblast
Croatia
Czech Republic
Hungary
Kaliningrad Oblast
Khakassia Republic
Latvia
Lithuania
Louisiana (part)
Montenegro
Novosibirsk Oblast
Poland
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Cotland
22-01-2008, 23:16
Sorry about Montenegro Cot, but I think it would be fair to give a newbie a chance to form Yugoslavia or something. I fully agree with Lay, the Balkans (minus Romania and Albania) and the Baltics should be held for new players.

No problem Mari. Good to have some land for newbies too.

TOA guys, who want to start the thread?
Ottoman Khaif
22-01-2008, 23:18
No problem Mari. Good to have some land for newbies too.

TOA guys, who want to start the thread?

I am starting up one atm...I'll post it a link soon.
Hawdawg
22-01-2008, 23:23
I like the single thread idea, it makes things less cluttered. I am working up my Portugal and Spain information as we speak, when a thread becomes available I will post it.

-Hawdawg
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 23:29
Serves me right for editing a post rather than posting a new one; the claims lists as they stand are here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13391114&postcount=21725

Let me know if there are any corrections.
Cotland
22-01-2008, 23:33
Kazakhstan has been added to OK's claim list; lists from NG's D12 currently stand like this:


Ottoman Khaif - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova,Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan (enforced by Lay and Hirgy)

Cotland - Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands

Hawdawg - Southern portion of England, Portugal, and Spain

Layarteb - Azores

Hirgizstan - Albania, France, Germany, and Switzerland

USB - Western Algeria (enforced by Hirgy)


Reserved for New Players (going by the traditional definition of the Balkans):

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Latvia
Lithuania
Montenegro
Romania
Serbia
Slovenia

Don't forget Kosovo...
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 23:34
Don't forget Kosovo...

Ta, and edited.
Cotland
22-01-2008, 23:34
Gents, a little picture courtesy of the Royal Norwegian Air Force, taken this morning off the coast of Norway.

http://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2008/01/22/1201018874978_402.jpg
Pyschotika
22-01-2008, 23:35
Heh, thought I'd post this since I know Lay's a big batman fan [so, last time I checked..which was long ago] -

Heath Ledger, the man cast in the role of the Joker in the upcoming film "The Dark Knight", was found dead in his apartment [I think?] today.

Wonder if this'll garner more attention for the Dark Knight, then, since this'd be his last finished film.
Ottoman Khaif
22-01-2008, 23:43
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13391240#post13391240 link to the rp to claim NG lands
Marimaia
22-01-2008, 23:55
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13391240#post13391240 link to the rp to claim NG lands

Acknowledged :)
Hirgizstan
23-01-2008, 00:03
Mari- USB is claiming Algeria (West).

TOA- Are we all going to use OK's thread for our RP's? I'm happy enough to do that.
Marimaia
23-01-2008, 00:07
Mari- USB is claiming Algeria (West).

Noted and added.
Layarteb
23-01-2008, 00:35
Now IRL, I have no idea what happened to NG. I hope he is alright and I have found a phone number for him in my calls. I called and asked for him but whomever picked up said he wasn't there and hung up, yes I am going to keep trying. NG was a good friend to me and I want to know if he's alright. As soon as I know something, I'll share.
Ottoman Khaif
23-01-2008, 00:36
Mari- USB is claiming Algeria (West).

TOA- Are we all going to use OK's thread for our RP's? I'm happy enough to do that.
Yea for the most part, TOA will use my thread to keep things simple.
Hawdawg
23-01-2008, 00:41
Mari- USB is claiming Algeria (West).

TOA- Are we all going to use OK's thread for our RP's? I'm happy enough to do that.

Yeah lets use OK's thread it keeps everything together.
Layarteb
23-01-2008, 00:43
I posted some ideas offsite under Hirgy's thread. Any ideas from anyone would be good.
Layarteb
23-01-2008, 00:51
I'd like to see that too, but since you guys have already grabbed the vast majority of the most desirable lands, your 'encouragement' seems to come a bit late.

I will of course be checking that no-one has claimed over their limits; if you lot would be so good as to tell me who is actually claiming Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Romania, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan then it would help in that. I assume that in the spirit of fairness you're not going to just allocate them to the alliance member with the least land.

Yeah I just did some numbers. TOA-nations have 66% of the land and 34% we did not claim [I didn't include Algeria]. You're definitely right Mari. I happened to have been at work at the time and didn't have the luxury of responding too quickly and too often as I would have liked or do numbers.

off to the lodge
Layarteb
23-01-2008, 04:07
MY boards and FTP service are currently spastic...Sorry...
Nerotika
23-01-2008, 04:13
NO NO NO NO NONO!!!

Fuck that guys, first off I have military forces already sitting in Kazahkstan...same goes with a vast force aiming toward the eastern territories in russia. Im sorry but OK if you com in and claim Kazahkstan your only technically invading me cause if NG is gone then I have military control of the land...first come first serve?...anyway I don't care about the rest of that land just Kazahkstan and the territories that NG owns to my east which I would like to claim concidering my current 'war' against him giving me presidence to invade quickly.

Please, please, please do not screw me over on that. I invaded Kazahkstan for a reason and you can't just throw the territory off while my military still reside's there. If anything, you'd be transferring my war with him to a war with you O.K.
Pushka
23-01-2008, 04:19
I claim Novosibirsk Oblast, Kemerovo, Altay Kray, Gorno Altay and Khakhassia if they are already claimed I will challenge whoever claimed it.
Layarteb
23-01-2008, 04:36
NO NO NO NO NONO!!!

Fuck that guys, first off I have military forces already sitting in Kazahkstan...same goes with a vast force aiming toward the eastern territories in russia. Im sorry but OK if you com in and claim Kazahkstan your only technically invading me cause if NG is gone then I have military control of the land...first come first serve?...anyway I don't care about the rest of that land just Kazahkstan and the territories that NG owns to my east which I would like to claim concidering my current 'war' against him giving me presidence to invade quickly.

Please, please, please do not screw me over on that. I invaded Kazahkstan for a reason and you can't just throw the territory off while my military still reside's there. If anything, you'd be transferring my war with him to a war with you O.K.

You were basically pushed out of Kazakhstan with a good portion of your forces hurt really bad and we all have forces there so we will simply continue to push you northward. You do not have any sort of control whatsoever at the moment and basically the war is going to continue. The only question is what do NG's force become...
Nerotika
23-01-2008, 04:37
I claim Novosibirsk Oblast, Kemerovo, Altay Kray, Gorno Altay and Khakhassia if they are already claimed I will challenge whoever claimed it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13392125#post13392125

Sorry Push, but im planning of giving up Khakhassia to you...maybe Gorno-Altay as well so we can have some peace.
Nerotika
23-01-2008, 04:39
Also, im contesting O.K's claim on Kazakhstan. Fuck if im gunna let him walk in and take what is rightfully mine now. Im sorry O.K. I never wanted any conflict with you but I have to if this is how it's goin down.
Pushka
23-01-2008, 04:40
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13392125#post13392125

Sorry Push, but im planning of giving up Khakhassia to you...maybe Gorno-Altay as well so we can have some peace.

Or I just take everything by force and that will remove any possibility of me helping you out in your conquest for Khazahstan (not that I am saying that I will help you out for certain the way things are right now).