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H-72 Lakota

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Overview

With the retirement of the OH-58 Kiowa Warrior and its successor, the OH-93 Knightwolf, there came the need for a light-weight, economical, and versatile replacement for both aircraft that could do their jobs equally well. The OH-58 Kiowa Warrior was an armed scout helicopter, lightly armed at best, but its real weapon was its ability to direct fire from other helicopters from concealed positions, keeping all of them out of the line of enemy fire. The OH-93 Knightwolf, which dispensed with this ability was an interim helicopter that was only expected to serve for 3 - 9 years. Instead, it served for 22. Both aircraft were excellent in their abilities, whether it was scout & reconnaissance as in the case of the OH-58 or attack in the case of the OH-93. However, neither aircraft could do the other's job very well, which presented a problem when it came to logistics.

The LDC and ILM joined together to find a suitable helicopter to do the tasks of both and what was found was the H-72 Lakota. A light-weight, economical, and versatile helicopter, the H-72 Lakota (based on real-life UH-72) could be adapted to perform not only the tasks of scout, reconnaissance, and attack but also utility, thus forming the initial two versions of the helicopter.

Airframe

The H-72 Lakota is built from the Eurocopter EC-145 airframe with some modifications made to the composition of the materials. The design gives a roomy inside cabin giving up to 285.16 ft³ (8.08 m³) of space throughout its internal frame as well as providing the pilots an excellent field of vision. In addition, the placement and construction of the main rotor blades allow for decreased vibration throughout the aircraft, a noise reduction, and better performance than most light-weight helicopters. In a break from the traditional tail-rotor design on the EC-145, the H-72 features a NOTAR system to provide it with increased noise reduction and a significant increase in survivability. It cannot be downed by taking its tail rotor out and this allows for a safer operational zone when the helicopter is idling on the ground.

Constructed from the same materials as the EC-145, the H-72 Lakota also features radar absorbant composites giving it a slightly lower radar cross section than the EC-145, which, while not that significant, can reduce detection and tracking ranges enough to allow it to have a slight edge over its opponents. The Lakota is also carrier capable and is built to withstand the toughest of environments.

Externally, the Lakota utility version can carry up to 3,307 pounds (1,500 kg) on its external cargo sling.

Avionics

The Lakota is equipped with a state-of-the-art sensor suite. The cockpit is an "all-glass" cockpit, which features digital avionics and four MFDs that provide for a host array of abilities. Both pilots can benefit from redundant systems and both of them can fly the helicopter equally from their respective positions.

The main active sensor is the AN/APG-86 Millimetric Wave Radar (MMW) and it works in conjunction with its other systems. It features a low probability intercept (LPI) system that works with ultrawideband to detect targets as far away as 35.00 miles (56.33 km). It can engage aircraft targets as far out as 30.00 miles (48.28 km) and ground targets out to 20.00 miles (32.19 km). The MMW system allows for guidance of up to eight missiles at once and allows for the helicopter to engage both aerial and ground targets simultaneously. When combined with its impressive warload, the MMW enables the Lakota to engage and destroy targets in the most hostile of enviornments while maintaining the edge.

The AN/ASQ-241 Electro-Optical Sensor (EOS) works in two functions. The first function is the most basic, which allows the EOS to visually identify aircraft as far out as 30.00 miles (48.28 km). Using a very sensitive camera, with extremely high-powered zoom, the EOS can provide a visual image of the target on the cockpit MFD, which would enable the pilot to visually identify an enemy fighter at very long-range. The EOS can only track one target at a time. In its secondary function, the EOS can spot flashes of light, abnormal glares, and discoloration against the sky. It is highly effective during both day and night but its range its significantly reduced in this function.

The AN/ASQ-242 Advanced Foward Looking Infrared (AFLIR) is an advanced FLIR system that uses wavelengths ranging from 1 to 15 µm in order to detect targets through fog, smoke, haze, and night conditions. At 1 µm, it sees just like the human eye and much like night vision cameras. However, out to 15 µm, it can detect body heat out to several miles as well as the hot exhausts from aircraft and vehicles. With lower ranges between 3 and 5 µm, the system requires advanced cooling to see distances and cut through fog and smoke. The AFLIR provides a passive detection system that does not alert enemies to the presence of the helicopter and can be used to target for missiles and engage targets in heavy jamming enviornments. It is capable to 20.00 miles (32.19 km).

The AN/ASQ-243 Advanced Laser Designator (ALD) is a unique laser rangefinder and designator that can range targets for weapon systems as well as guide laser-guided missiles to their targets. The system can also designate and illuminate targets for other helicopters so that they may fire without revealing themselves, a feature that was pioneered on the OH-58 Kiowa. It is capable to 20.00 miles (32.19 km) and provides resistance to laser jamming systems and allows for the ability to deceive laser warning systems by using different wavelengths of laser energy.

The Lakota also features an advanced and capable LIDAR system that provides for accurate and effective detection and ranging systems using invisible light. The system can allow the pilots to detect targets as small as human sized and allow them to target them individually, from ranges that would otherwise keep them at bay and at a far distance.

The self-defense systems of the Lakota are centered around the AN/ALQ-230 Advanced Helicopter Self-Protection Jamming Suite (AHSPJ). The AHSPJ features a serious of jammers. It includes an electro-optical jammer, the AN/ALQ-225 Advanced Electro-Optical Jammer (AEOJ), an infrared jammer, the AN/ALQ-226 Advanced Infrared Jammer (AIJ), a radar jammer, and a laser jammer, the AN/ALQ-228 Advanced Laser Jammer (ALJ). The AEOJ of the Defender works out to 20.00 miles (32.19 km) but can act with 95% effectiveness inside of 12 miles (19.31 km). The AIJ works to mess with the imaging infrared seekers of the most advanced dogfight and ground-launched missiles. Its maximum range is 16.00 miles (25.75 km) but can act with 98% effectiveness inside of 10.00 miles (16.09 km). Lastly, the ALJ, which acts against laser guided missiles, primarily surface launched missiles, and laser gun sights of advanced aircraft works within 10.00 miles (16.09 km) and is 95% effective within 8.50 miles (13.68 km). In addition, it features the AN/ALQ-231 Advanced Rotary-Wing Radar Jammer (ARWRJ), which allows for jamming against radars, including continuous wave and pulse doppler systems. It is capable out to 28.00 miles (45.06 km) with 94% effectiveness out to 22.00 miles (35.41 km). Coupled together with an radar warning receiver (RWR) and laser warning receiver (LWR), the AASPJ allows for RWR tracking out to 50 miles (80.47 km) in a full 360° circle around the aircraft. The LWR, which also works in a full 360° circle, works out to 20 miles (32.19 km).

Lastly, if all else fails, the Lakota can resort to old-fashioned flares and chaff bundles. The Lakota carries 60 flares and 30 chaff bundles for the utility version and 90 flares and 30 chaff bundles for the observation version, which can be deployed in pre-programmed modes, which would allow a set number of each to deploy in certain intervals. If necessary, the pilots can place them on automatic, which means that the aircraft automatically deploys what is necessary based on the threats received through the AHSPJ system. Lastly, the pilots can deploy them individually, if necessary, to allow for a more conservative approach. Any of these options are available to the pilots.

Cockpit

The Lakota has a very advanced cockpit, which provides a great deal of ease. Lessons learned from the Stalker, Anasazi, and Super Huey showed that the more advanced systems that could be presented and the quicker they could be utilized could make a host of difference for the abilities of the pilots. The Lakota features a glass cockpit that is highly digitalized. The cockpit features four MFDs. These can all be used to display information about the aircraft, its weapons, and its sensors. Centered horizontally and at the top of the panel is a small TV screen, which can be switched between the EOS and the AFLIR. Switches, dials, buttons, and everything else within the cockpit is night vision capable and can go to high illumination if necessary. The displays features a single RWR-type display, which combines both RWR and LWR sensors into one readout. All MFDs are touch-screens, which allows the pilot to simply touch and call up commands, though buttons are provided along them for even further abilities.

The pilot sits in cramped quarters but not uncomfortable. The cockpit is both air conditioned and heated, which allows the pilot to sit highly comfortable, even in the most unpleasant environments. The glass of the canopy reduces glare. The cockpit also reduces on external sounds to help alleviate some of the sensory data that the pilot will receive.

Engines and Fuel

The Lakota is powered by a pair of turboshaft engines that provide a good amount of power but an even better degree of reliability. The engines are independent of each other in such a way that a failure in one will not necessarily cause a failure in the other, allowing the helicopter to operate on one engine, albeit at a limited capacity but still enough to either return to base or complete the mission.

Each engine is an LDC-AE-46A that provides up to 800 shaft horsepower (597 kW) each. They provide continuous power up to 18,000 feet (5,486.4 m) and can push the helicopter as fast as 172 mph (276 kph). The engines provide an initial climb rate of 2,940 feet per minute (896 m/min) and a 900 mile (1,448 km) unrefueled range in optimum conditions. The Lakota carries an internal fuel load of 1,530 pounds (694 kg) and it can carry, in emergency conditions, four external fuel tanks holding 60 gallons (227 liters) of fuel, depending on the tank, adding an additional 396 pounds (180 kg) per fuel tank. The amount of extra fuel can give the helicopter 100% more range, which is useful in ferry and MEDEVAC conditions but do limit its manuverability, which is normally rated at -2Gs and +4Gs.

The engines of the Lakota also provide stealth in the way of sound. They process and release air flow differently than most turboshaft engines, which allows them to reduce noise by as much as 10 dB, which is crucial to the stealth and survivability of the helicopter. This makes them much more difficult to detect for early warning and they are quieter on the tarmac, which make them easier to work around as well as inside of the cabin.

Performance

The Lakota is a light-weight helicopter and is not designed to be a high-performance helicopter. Nonetheless, it is still a fast and capable little machine. It can move as fast as 172 mph (276 kph) and climb as high as 18,000 feet (5,486.4 m). The Lakota has an unrefueled range of 900 miles (1,448 km) and can pull -2Gs and +4Gs.

Weapons

The Lakota is either a utility or a scout helicopter and thus its warload is not as much as dedicated attack helicopters. It mounts two stub wings with two underwing and one wingtip pylon per wing, each underwing pylon rated at 500 pounds (226.80 kg) or 600 pounds (272.16 kg) depending on the model. The wingtip pylons are rated at 100 pounds (45.36 kg) each. The underwing pylons are capable of mounting only a few weapon systems: gunpods, ECM pods, fuel tanks, air to ground missiles, and rocket pods. They can carry freefall ordinance such as bombs but it is not recommended due to possible damage to the helicopter. The wingtip pylons can carry only air to air missiles and are limited to only light air to air missiles at best.

The utility version of the helicopter mounts a pair of M35 Light Machine Guns in its doors. The M35A1 LMG is the premier LMG of the Imperial Layartebian Military and it is powerful. It is a 7.62 x 51 millimeter machine gun with a rate of fire of 900 rounds per minute and an effective range of 1.12 miles (1.80 km). Each machine gun is fed by a 1,000 round magazine and it can fully swivel on its mount to engage targets straight ahead, directly behind, straight down, and almost straight up. The guns are controlled by two operators, one per gun, and the gunners can use select rates of fire to engage targets. The scout version does not have these machine guns mounted.

In addition, the Lakota can carry up to four gunpods externally. These are the M303A or M303B Heavy Machine Gun Pods and carry either an M31A4 15.5MM Heavy Machine Gun or an M50A3 12.7MM Heavy Machine Gun. Regardless of the variant, each pod weighs 305 pounds (138.45 kg) and carries either 290 15.5 x 115 millimeter or 400 12.7 x 900 millimeter rounds, depending on the version. The M31A4 HMG variant is specially modified to accept caseless ammunition, has a higher rate of fire, and to allow for other features. The M31A4 HMG is a 15.5 x 115 millimeter cannon with a maximum range of 1.86 miles (3 km) but an effective range of 1.50 miles (2.4 km). It fires both armor piercing and high-explosive shells, usually mixed into the ammunition at a 2:1 ratio. It has a muzzle velocity of 4,500 feet per second (1,372 mps). With a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, they provide high amounts of firepower. The M50A3 HMG variant is a modified M50A2 that is strictly automatic. It has an effective range of 1.25 miles (2.0 km) and a rate of fire of 1,100 rounds per minute. It fires both armor piercing and high-explosive shells, usually mixed into the ammunition at a 2:1 ratio. It has a muzzle velocity of 3,051 feet per second (930 mps).

The AIM-186C Wizard is a modified surface-to-air missile that is strictly designed for air to air use. It is light, powerful, and heavily capable. It is 5.00 feet (1.52 m) long, 2.75 inches (69.85 mm) in diameter, and has a wingspan of 3.60 inches (91.44 mm). Weighing 30.00 pounds (13.61 kg), it carries a 10 pound (4.54 kg) blast-fragmentation warhead with a 50.00 foot (15.24 m) blast radius that can destroy anything short of armored ground-attack aircraft in a single strike. It can be fired from ground level up to 21,120.00 feet (6,437.38 m) and it has a range of 0.02 to 5.00 miles (32 - 8,046.72 m). Powered by a gel-fueled rocket, it can move up to Mach 2.5 and is guided by imaging infrared with a 105° field of view. As such, it is immune to flares and it features an ECCM ability against infrared jammers. The missile is detonated by a proximity fuse that uses a laser to determine when to detonate. The missile can pull as many as +60Gs in combat. Coupled with a Helmet Mounted Sight (HMS), the missile can be used to full advantage, otherwise it is limited to only a 105° cone. The missile also features Lock-On After Launch (LOAL) capabilities. The Wizard is also fueled by a secretive gel-based fuel developed strictly by the Layartebian Defense Corporation (LDC) for weaponry.

The bulk of the capabilities of the Lakota are for air to ground. The Lakota can carry up to four AGM-87 Focuses, four AGM-122 Sidarms, sixteen AGM-177 Brimstones, four iron bombs, and up to either fifty-six or seventy-six 2.75" rockets, depending on the configuration.

The AGM-177 Brimstone is, perhaps, one of the most capable anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM), besides the Maverick. Developed from the Hellfire ATGM, the Brimstone is for use on both fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft. It is 6 feet (1.83 m) long, 7 inches (161.54 mm) in diameter, and has a 1.25 foot (381 mm) wingspan. The missile is available in three variants. The A variant weighs 110 pounds (49.90 kg), the B variant is 130 pounds (58.97 kg), and the C variant is 125 pounds (56.70 kg). All missiles travel at Mach 1.3 and have a range between 0.1 miles (160.93 m) and 19.5 miles (31.38 km). The missile has a 40,000 foot (12.19 km) ceiling. The A version uses the same warhead as the Hellfire II, which is a 20 pound (9.07 kg), tandem anti-armor warhead, designed to penetrate the armor of the vehicle with one warhead and to destroy it with the other. In practice, it has shown itself to be very effective, destroying nearly every tank it has been fired upon. The B version uses a more conventional, 40 pound (18.14 kg) blast-fragmentation warhead. The C version uses a 35 pound (15.88 kg) thermobaric warhead, as seen on the AGM-114N Hellfire II. The Brimstone is guided by millimetric wave radar, coupled to a datalink circuit, which enables the missile to change its target in flight. Powered by a solid-fueled rocket, the missile attacks the tank from the top, executing a top-dive attack in its terminal stage, a lesson learned from the Hellfire. Very few tanks can survive a Hellfire attack, let alone a Brimstone hit.

Specifications

Status: In-Service
Role: Utility Helicopter ; Reconnaissance [OH-72B]
Crew: 4
Passengers: 8 [UH-72A]; 0 [OH-72B]
Cost: $8M [UH-72A]; $9.5M [OH-72B]
Length: 42.70 ft.
Main Rotor Diameter: 36.10 ft.
Height: 11.30 ft.
Empty Weight: 3,950 lb. [UH-72A]; 4,350 lb. [OH-72B]
Maximum Weight: 7,903 lb. [UH-72A]; 8,500 lb. [OH-72B]
Fuel Weight: 1,530 lb.
Armament Weight: 2,200 lb. [UH-72A]; 2,600 lb. [OH-72B]
Payload Weight: 3,307 lb. [external hook] [UH-72A]; None [OH-72B]
Powerplant: Two LDC-AE-46A turboshaft engines
Maximum Thrust: 1,600 shp
Maximum Speed: 172 mph [UH-72A]; 165 mph [OH-72B]
Initial Climb Rate: 2,940 ft./min
Service Ceiling: 18,000 ft.
Combat Range: 450 mi
Ferry Range: 900 mi
G-Limits: -2 / +4
Gun: 2 M35 7.62MM LMGs with 1,000 rounds each [2,000 total] on door mount and 4 M303A 15.5MM Heavy Machine Gun Pods with 290 rounds each or 4 M303B 12.7MM Heavy Machine Gun Pods with 400 rounds each [UH-72A]; 4 M303A 15.5MM Heavy Machine Gun Pods with 290 rounds each or 4 M303B 12.7MM Heavy Machine Gun Pods with 400 rounds each [OH-72B]
Air-to-Air Armament: Up to 4 AIM-186 Wizard missiles on wingtip hardpoints
Air-to-Ground Armament: Up to 2 7-round or 19-round 2.75" Adder rocket pods [UH-72A]; Up to 16 AGM-177 Brimstone missiles, up to 4 7-rond or 19-round 2.75" Adder rocket pods [OH-72B]
Avionics: AN/APG-86 MMW, AN/ASQ-241 EOS, AN/ASQ-242 AFLIR, AN/ASQ-243 ALD, LIDAR
ECM: AN/ALQ-230 AHSPJ; 30 chaff bundles, 60 flares [UH-72A]; AN/ALQ-230 AHSPJ; 30 chaff bundles, 90 flares [OH-72B]
Radar Signature: Slightly less than the EC-145
Variants:

[u]UH-72A Lakota: Main production model for utility and medevac
OH-72B Lakota: Reconnaissance/scout attack model


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Nero, I'm sorry to say, but your RP's are the hardest to read, with many mistakes and stuff all clumped together. Take Lay's advice, then you will get more readers.

Nero, I'm sorry to say, but your RP's are the hardest to read, with many mistakes and stuff all clumped together. Take Lay's advice, then you will get more readers.

well, wish someone had said something earlier. Is that why you've been asking me alot of questions that are answered ni my posts cause I realized alot of people have been doing that.

Oh well i`ll go and revise my new thread cause I find its of some importance to the world and I guess i`ll attempt to stop writting my usual way, its not that I cant its just im not use to it.

well, wish someone had said something earlier. Is that why you've been asking me alot of questions that are answered ni my posts cause I realized alot of people have been doing that.

Oh well i`ll go and revise my new thread cause I find its of some importance to the world and I guess i`ll attempt to stop writting my usual way, its not that I cant its just im not use to it.

Look at this post above, this is why your posts are hard to read. I've highlighted the mistakes you made in these four lines. Granted these mistakes are small, but in a large body of RP text things can be misunderstood greatly because of one mistake like these above. Run a spell check over the text before you post or re-read what you have written. It takes no time and it saves a lot of hassle.

Nero, if you don't want anyone to bug you about grammatical mistakes download Firefox 2.0, it has a plugin available that makes your browser work like a word document in that words that are misspelled are highlighted as you write them and you can right click on them to get correct spelling. Helps me out a lot.

Nero, if you don't want anyone to bug you about grammatical mistakes download Firefox 2.0, it has a plugin available that makes your browser work like a word document in that words that are misspelled are highlighted as you write them and you can right click on them to get correct spelling. Helps me out a lot.

Be wary of FF2.0 though it has a lot of security holes in it.

Just use the F7 key in Word.

Firefox 2.0 vs. Internet Explorer 7

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Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 2.0 enhancements
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Both Web browsers tackle downloads with a barrage of warnings. It seems that Microsoft really learned from past problems caused by ActiveX. Now, a download dialog box only appears when you click a direct link to a download. This prevents pop ups from prompting you to download a file. In addition, if there's a need to install a software program, the prompt will only appear once. Microsoft has also reworked ActiveX prompts; they now appear in the Info bar where they don't interfere with navigation and can be ignored. And, although drive-by ActiveX installs are now impossible, users still need to change their habits. While Internet Explorer has provided publisher program information for some time, simply doing so hasn't deterred people from installing malicious programs.

Alternatively, Firefox allows Web pages to trigger a download dialog box that users must deal with. Firefox also has its own add-on model, and there are concerns about the ease with which they can be installed.

Firefox 2.0 vs. Internet Explorer 7: End-user appeal
However, Firefox 2.0 will likely appeal more to the technically knowledgeable user and its options and dialog boxes reflect that. It offers more customization, such as allowing users to choose which warning messages they receive, and which cookies they can view and remove. On the other hand, if Internet Explorer 7 considers its browser settings to be unsafe, the "Fix Settings for Me" option can help the less technically savvy surfer.

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Article about FF2 vs IE7. I've never felt safe with FF, it's too "open" for me to feel secure. The whole world knows every flaw in the browser, they advertise them!

Mozilla Firefox is simply a superior browser. Look at the CNET review, they are the most respected online based technology information source on the web. They gave Firefox 2 a higher rating then IE 7.0. Here I'll give you a link.

http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-24633.html

Mozilla Firefox is simply a superior browser. Look at the CNET review, they are the most respected online based technology information source on the web. They gave Firefox 2 a higher rating then IE 7.0. Here I'll give you a link.

http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-24633.html

I've seen it. It's not a bad browser but I just find IE to be better. In my experience I've found Firefox to be slower, there are issues with phpBB logins, it doesn't read HTML code the same way, it's just a hassle. I use it at my mom's house because IE7 is Windows XP or better and I have 2000 installed there. I'll say FF2 is better than IE6 but not IE7.

With my Firefox I can do several things, for example as I already mentioned the integrated spellchecking, another thing would be controlling my music from my browser. Yet another is the ability to ad block any image on any web page, also I got a very good looking MacGraphite skin, I can zoom in and out of any image (IE 7 has that but the previous versions didn't) and plus the good old tabbed browsing where I can reopen closed tabs, bookmark all opened tabs or individual tabs and if my computer ever crushes or I turn it off without closing the browser it will let me restore the previous session meaning it will open all of my tabs exactly as I left them before I turned my computer off. Most of the stuff I mentioned are downloadable plugins however they are free, unlike IE plugins some of which cost money to download. Either way, watch the CNET video review.

With my Firefox I can do several things, for example as I already mentioned the integrated spellchecking, another thing would be controlling my music from my browser. Yet another is the ability to ad block any image on any web page, also I got a very good looking MacGraphite skin, I can zoom in and out of any image (IE 7 has that but the previous versions did't) and plus the good old tabbed browsing where I can reopen closed tabs, bookmark all opened tabs or individual tabs and if my computer ever crushes or I turn it off without closing the browser it will let me restore the previous session meaning it will open all of mt tabs exactly as I left them before I turned my computer off. Most of the stuff I mentioned are downloadable plugins however they are free, unlike IE plugins some of which cost money to download. Either way, watch the CNET video review.

I've seen it I said. IE7 has the tabbed browsing, which is nice. The spellchecking is a nice little add-on and your computer shouldn't crash if you have Windows XP. As far as the skins go, all that is glamor. IE7 can do all that stuff and the plug-ins are 3rd party in a lot of cases so I wouldn't use them either way.

Well its a matter of personal choice I guess, personally I find MF 2.0 superior.

Well its a matter of personal choice I guess, personally I find MF 2.0 superior.

Aye. What annoys me most is that I can't log into my own phpBB forums under a Firefox browser. I hit login and it just doesn't recognize it at all or that my site shows the table borders, which are invisible and set to size 0.

I've seen it I said. IE7 has the tabbed browsing, which is nice. The spellchecking is a nice little add-on and your computer shouldn't crash if you have Windows XP. As far as the skins go, all that is glamor. IE7 can do all that stuff and the plug-ins are 3rd party in a lot of cases so I wouldn't use them either way.

Yeah I know, I didn't read your post before I posted mine. I highly doubt IE7 can do all the stuff MF can but okay. XP never crashes? It does for me atleast once a month, then you do things like converting large video file formats and run 6 or 7 heavy applications believe me it does.

Aye. What annoys me most is that I can't log into my own phpBB forums under a Firefox browser. I hit login and it just doesn't recognize it at all or that my site shows the table borders, which are invisible and set to size 0.

Hmm, weird, I login to your forums just fine. Does your Firefox have the latest version installed?

Yeah I know, I didn't read your post before I posted mine. I highly doubt IE7 can do all the stuff MF can but okay. XP never crashes? It does for me atleast once a month, then you do things like converting large video file formats and run 6 or 7 heavy applications believe me it does.

That's a hardware problem if you're crashing because I've done a lot of heavy stuff like that on my system and it doesn't crash. The last time Windows XP crashed on me was when I installed it as FAT32 back in December 2002.

Hmm, weird, I login to your forums just fine. Does your Firefox have the latest version installed?

I had the problem with 1.5 and I continue to have it on 2.0. It's aggravating.

That's a hardware problem if you're crashing because I've done a lot of heavy stuff like that on my system and it doesn't crash. The last time Windows XP crashed on me was when I installed it as FAT32 back in December 2002.

That would be unlikely since I have purchased my VAIO laptop around five months ago. Didn't modify it, didn't smash or dash it, didn't have any viruses.

I had the problem with 1.5 and I continue to have it on 2.0. It's aggravating.

Very strange, as I said I have no problems login in to your forums.

That would be unlikely since I have purchased my VAIO laptop around five months ago. Didn't modify it, didn't smash or dash it, didn't have any viruses.

You're doing heavy stuff on a laptop. That's probably why. What kind of hardware do you have inside of the laptop?

The worst thing with FF is the damn tables thing. If you go to my site you see that ugly gray bordering around the tables right? They're all set to 0 border. FF likes to disregard HTML coding.

Oh yeah my laptop is crap, I am getting a new one as soon as possible. I checked your forums page on both IE7 and MF 2.0 and I don't see any differences except that on IE7 letters seem a tiny bit blurry.

Oh yeah my laptop is crap, I am getting a new one as soon as possible. I checked your forums page on both IE7 and MF 2.0 and I don't see any differences except that on IE7 letters seem a tiny bit blurry.

There you go. Hardware problem, not the software :). If they are blurry you have your antriscopic filtering or antialiasing setting fuzzed.

Hey, Lay I was checking out you site and came across your computer. Very nice, I saw the games you have but I was wondering if you are going to get BF2142?

Also, if you get the chance it would be sweet to play you in CS: Source, just say if you wanna play.

Look at this post above, this is why your posts are hard to read. I've highlighted the mistakes you made in these four lines. Granted these mistakes are small, but in a large body of RP text things can be misunderstood greatly because of one mistake like these above. Run a spell check over the text before you post or re-read what you have written. It takes no time and it saves a lot of hassle.

I always put my (RP) posts through Word first. That way I know what I'm writing is good quality.

Hey, Lay I was checking out you site and came across your computer. Very nice, I saw the games you have but I was wondering if you are going to get BF2142?

Also, if you get the chance it would be sweet to play you in CS: Source, just say if you wanna play.

No I don't have plans to get it. I'm happy with BF2. I'm still working on its booster packs. I'm really just waiting for STALKER.

No I don't have plans to get it. I'm happy with BF2. I'm still working on its booster packs. I'm really just waiting for STALKER.

I'll need to get BF2, 2142 was on sale at best buy for 25 bucks so I had to get it while it was cheap. Its gunna suck though, cause I'll need to catch up with the special forces pack and the other packs for it and that'll cost a nice amount.

I was wondering if neighboring russian countries would like to open trade agreements with the republics, this includes you Cotland, hopfully the soviet republics arn't on your enemies list.

Sayy guys-- got any room in this World?

I am really active in Earth V, and am looking to expand my 'horizons', and join another successful RP.

I always put my (RP) posts through Word first. That way I know what I'm writing is good quality.
Heh. I have a slightly different experience with MS Word's spellcheck which I find to be relatively flawed. More so in Norwegian (both languages) than in English, but I still find rather stupid suggestions in the English spellcheck as well...
I was wondering if neighboring russian countries would like to open trade agreements with the republics, this includes you Cotland, hopfully the soviet republics arn't on your enemies list.
You're still Soviet, which is a massive ideological leap away from the capitalist-minded Cottish population (save for the socialists, who are pretty much eradicated in the Realm by now), and still Syndicate, which has been listed as a terrorist organization in the Realm since the attacks on my embassy in Japan, so that is rather unlikely. Sorry. We just don't negotiate with terrorists (officially...).

Sayy guys-- got any room in this World?

I am really active in Earth V, and am looking to expand my 'horizons', and join another successful RP.

Decree 2: Earth II was originally created with the idea of giving a home to those who could not get a home on Earth I, the original Earth. In that, members of Earth I were not permitted to be part of Earth II and vica versa. This rule, we believe, has held the strongest. However, in the dawn of a new age whereby most Earths don't exist past a few weeks and other, alternative communities form offering something very unique and not like that of an Earth, there should be some guidelines to those. First and foremost, members of Earth II are not permitted to hold land on another Earth unless it is with a puppet that is not related to said nation. Members who participate on other Earths with independent puppets are asked to post on in their registered name for Earth II to avoid confusion. Secondly, members who use puppets on other Earths may not interchange resources between said Earth and Earth II, they exist completely independent of each other and do not intercross under any circumstances. Thirdly, off-site Earths shall not be subject to this rule. Members may join any number of off-site Earths, defined as Earths not present on NationStates forums, as regularly or as little as they wish. Fourthly, simulations that portray real-life countries, scenarios, events, and so on and so fourth shall be allowed as they portray something independent of Earth II. Members do not have to use a puppet on said simulations but they must maintain that both are independent of each other. In light of this, said simulations must be representing of something "real-life." Fifthly, derivatives of Earth II will be regarded as subject to this decree and not a case for exception unless presenting a "real-life" situation. Decree originally enacted in post #139 and #181. Ammended in post #9006.

'nuff said...

Wow, is this the longest thread ever? this is longer than war and peace!!!

Hehehe. Well, if we're not there yet, we will be soon enough.... ;)

Cutting through the fat, that means you'll have to create a puppet file to RP on Earth II (you can still claim your originial country's name and population).

No I just hate germans...eh well secrets out. Thing is, you can never trust a german (And I dare you to give me an example where the germans could be trusted)

Now I have no more qualms showing my racisms to Mexicans.

Pan-Asianism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12104442#post12104442)

ACHTUNG!

HERR NERO, PUSHKA, PANTH, ETC!!

Well i'm STILL waiting for that guy to post in the Military Reorganization thread...It's been like 3 or 4 days since i posted...

Pan-Asianism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12104442#post12104442)

ACHTUNG!

HERR NERO, PUSHKA, PANTH, ETC!!

Pys check TGs.

Everyone who is concerned with this thread, please don't post there yet.

Well i'm STILL waiting for that guy to post in the Military Reorganization thread...It's been like 3 or 4 days since i posted...

We're waiting on you in the other thread ;).

OPPS! 0_0 Sorry about that mate, posting now.

You're still Soviet, which is a massive ideological leap away from the capitalist-minded Cottish population (save for the socialists, who are pretty much eradicated in the Realm by now), and still Syndicate, which has been listed as a terrorist organization in the Realm since the attacks on my embassy in Japan, so that is rather unlikely. Sorry. We just don't negotiate with terrorists (officially...).

Well...secretly, maybe we could work out an under the desk trade agreement (I'm sure my TSS police could keep out of the public eye, if anything can be done TG me cause I want to establish a different soviet party then that of communistic design)

Speaking of soviet parties though I have created a two party election system, kinda that whole heres the SOVIET PARTY and heres the other guy (I dare you to pick the other guy),

Happens. Got something up for ya.

Attention TOA members. Please see our forums for the "M2032 Combat Record" thread and comment.

Now I have no more qualms showing my racisms to Mexicans.

A yes, hate me fore being Mexican. But you know you love my Irishness and Scottishness. Also, no example of trusting in germans.

I'm going to put a temporary hold on RTL until some more time passes.

A yes, hate me fore being Mexican. But you know you love my Irishness and Scottishness. Also, no example of trusting in germans.

Just because I have Irish and Scottish in me...you get off...

In the mean time...

Go back to burrito-land! >>

Just because I have Irish and Scottish in me...you get off...

In the mean time...

Go back to burrito-land! >>

Naaa, marijuana and beer land much funner.

Pys check TGs.

Everyone who is concerned with this thread, please don't post there yet.

Disregard that, being as he didn't notice the fact it is 'Pre=Conference' and well....


It's mostly for Nerotika to reply to.

Naaa, marijuana and beer land much funner.

Again...post in that thread dammit!

Heh. I have a slightly different experience with MS Word's spellcheck which I find to be relatively flawed. More so in Norwegian (both languages) than in English, but I still find rather stupid suggestions in the English spellcheck as well...

Well, I know it's not perfect, but I correct MS as well (I've put in the dictionary all the names of my RP characters, for example). I'd say it's a good guideline, though, and better than not checking at all.

Psy, I need to know for sure if your willing to transport my U.S.R. troops to the UAE. If so I can also establish an oil trade agreement with you when Soviet forces stablize the territory. If anyone else wants to help me stablize the country under soviet rule I would be glad to cut them into the oil trade i'll most likly be sending out of the U.A.E.

Also I believe now I can change from the United Nations of The Syndicate to be officially The United Soviet Republics. Now that The Syndicate had become The Soviet Syndicate Secret Police or TSS for short. Dont worry, lay, this is my last change.

w00t for personal KGB.

I cant tell if its North Germania that borders me or if its Rome, either one I wanted to know if they wanted to have a trade agreement with me.

Due to the recent events in Arabia, the Royal Cottish Military in the Middle East has gone to BERSTAT-3. As a direct result, the Suez Canal has been closed to all foreign and civilian traffic. Any attempts to physically force the Realm to reopen the canal will be considered to be an act of war and responded to accordingly.

[signed]
Defense Ministry
The Realm of Cotland

Likewise any attempt to deposit enemy troops (Read: USR Troops) into the UAE will be considered an act of war.

I was wondering if neighboring russian countries would like to open trade agreements with the republics, this includes you Cotland, hopfully the soviet republics arn't on your enemies list.

I'll be happy to make a Free Trade agreement with you. Now that Bjornoya is gone you don't have to worry about much competition in the Panthean market.

We are the world leading exporters of Beer and Cheese. We also have copper as well as natural gas

Likewise any attempt to deposit enemy troops (Read: USR Troops) into the UAE will be considered an act of war.

Didn't Lay say that part of the UER would remain Nero's? Not sure. And no, I'm not asking HIRG or COT or ANYONE besides LAY. Any attempt to make an answer, and you would have just made your self nothing but stupidly arrogant.

Didn't Lay say that part of the UER would remain Nero's? Not sure. And no, I'm not asking HIRG or COT or ANYONE besides LAY. Any attempt to make an answer, and you would have just made your self nothing but stupidly arrogant.

UER? You mean UAE? As far as that goes I don't know anything about the UAE. All I said was Nero had to post that the land in Saudi Arabia was under foreign control.

UER? You mean UAE? As far as that goes I don't know anything about the UAE. All I said was Nero had to post that the land in Saudi Arabia was under foreign control.

Oh shit I said UER....noes.........

Anyways, just seeing what you were saying about it.

Public Service Announcement

Earlier today Hawdawg Air Force Bombers destroyed a large contingency force from the nation of Spizania while actively engaging a large enemy force. Regretfully the Spizanian leadership chose to leave its forces in harms way after repeated warnings of the imminent bombing campaign that was to take place by our forces. We had to take decisive action to ensure both COH and our positions where not flanked by a substaintal last ditch effort by the Aazadi Rebels to repel our units from Dubai. While the deaths of the Spizanian troops was regrettable, we hold the leadership responsible for not heeding the warnings given to remove troops from harms way.


Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

An act of war...well thats news. Sorry you guys are taking this so strongly after all its only a small peacekeeping division trying to gain control in Abu Dhabi. They would kinda be on your side of things by basically exiling the Aazad troops in Abu Dhabi and that would almost deliver them right to your killing machines. But whatever if you want a giant showdown there then you'll most likely get one.

Oh shit I said UER....noes.........

Anyways, just seeing what you were saying about it.

Freudian slip, by any chance?

Anyhoo, the UER is at a major crossroads at the moment....should we be anti-October Alliance, pro-October Alliance (even though the majority of them don't even recognise the UER as a nation), or should we just sit on the porch watching the fireworks, yelling "git off mah property" and waving our nuclear arsenal at anyone who tries to violate our peace and quiet?

Actually Marimaia I do recognise you but I don't have diplomatic relations or an embassy etc. Its only rogue/terrorist nations I don't recognize.

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg has always recognized the important contributions the UER has made to the global economy. We unfortunately could not send any representatives to the summit in which many of our allies attended. The information they shared with us about the developments in the UER were very exciting. We have no qualms about trading embassies with the UER and we think it would be the perfect time to develop a relationship and dialogue. We hope the UER would seriously consider establishing normal relations. We anxiously await the UER's response.


Mika Hamilton
Secretary of State
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Holy Crap!

My puppet, Iblis-Israfil, is effing awsome!

http://www.nationstates.net/iblis-israfil

Look at it's effing rank!

Iblis-Israfil is ranked 1st in the region and 259th in the world for Most Pro-Market Nations.

Hirgy, my bad for misinterpreting previous statements. Good to know that the UER is acknowledged.

Hawdawg, if you wish to trade embassies and open dialogue, it would be a pleasure. Premier Zhao isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so you can rely on a good stable government which believes in peaceful co-existence and global harmony.

Still doesn't answer the question though......pro-TOA, anti-TOA or kick back and watch the fireworks? Then again, trading embassies and such with Hawdawg isn't exactly anti-TOA.

Hirgy, my bad for misinterpreting previous statements. Good to know that the UER is acknowledged.

Hawdawg, if you wish to trade embassies and open dialogue, it would be a pleasure. Premier Zhao isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so you can rely on a good stable government which believes in peaceful co-existence and global harmony.

Still doesn't answer the question though......pro-TOA, anti-TOA or kick back and watch the fireworks? Then again, trading embassies and such with Hawdawg isn't exactly anti-TOA.

The porch Idea sounds pretty fun man, be like North Korea and just sit back and threaten people without actually following up on those threats.

Hirgy, my bad for misinterpreting previous statements. Good to know that the UER is acknowledged.

Hawdawg, if you wish to trade embassies and open dialogue, it would be a pleasure. Premier Zhao isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so you can rely on a good stable government which believes in peaceful co-existence and global harmony.

Still doesn't answer the question though......pro-TOA, anti-TOA or kick back and watch the fireworks? Then again, trading embassies and such with Hawdawg isn't exactly anti-TOA.

You've just got to look out for yourself and your own sovereignty.

The first chapter of Ascensión (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509447) is done. Comments?

Yes personal sovereignty is fine...but come on man, useless threats of shitty nuclear bombs, you can't tell me that wouldn't be fun. Hey in fact you could be like Venezuela and call peoples national leaders "The Devil" or "El Diablo." or however the F* you say that in whatever language your nation speaks. lol, just trying to create some comedy as I am really bored right now.

Yes personal sovereignty is fine...but come on man, useless threats of shitty nuclear bombs, you can't tell me that wouldn't be fun. Hey in fact you could be like Venezuela and call peoples national leaders "The Devil" or "El Diablo." or however the F* you say that in whatever language your nation speaks. lol, just trying to create some comedy as I am really bored right now.

They speak English. I know it's a tough thing to grasp.

The first chapter of Ascensión (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509447) is done. Comments?

I was going to try to do something along the lines of a story inside EII along with Psy but I can't remember how it went...If I figure it out though we'll most likly start doing this ^.^...

Anyway very nice stuff...

They speak English. I know it's a tough thing to grasp.

so hard....I just can't see an Asian learning english without first learning their language.

In the Kingdom of Trensk we don't use shit. :P J/K, anyways, school is murder. >_< I'll be glad when i go on Christmas break in two days...More time to RP and Game! :D

so hard....I just can't see an Asian learning english without first learning their language.

Who were you referring to when you said the language thing because you quoted me. If you meant the UER you certainly weren't specific.

The first chapter of Ascensión (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=509447) is done. Comments?

I am briefly mentioned, yay.

Who were you referring to when you said the language thing because you quoted me. If you meant the UER you certainly weren't specific.

...heh, my mistake. Oh well didn't harm much.

I am briefly mentioned, yay.

Haha yeah when we did the 100 megaton test.

I read about 3/4ths of the first post so far, looks good, I'll keep reading when I have more time.

I read about 3/4ths of the first post so far, looks good, I'll keep reading when I have more time.

First post is mostly recap from that thread I did way back when with some intro to the mission.

ATTENTION: Mari

Should I open a thread on our exchange of embassies and such? Let me know.


-Hawdawg

I should mention that as of tomorrow I'll be off on vacation in Sanibel (don't kill me...*ducks*), so I don't think I'll be as active as am I now for the coming two weeks. Just as a heads up.

I should mention that as of tomorrow I'll be off on vacation in Sanibel (don't kill me...*ducks*), so I don't think I'll be as active as am I now for the coming two weeks. Just as a heads up.

Enjoy the sun.

Enjoy the sun.

Thanks. I think I will. I'll try to bring it back home with me.

Thanks. I think I will. I'll try to bring it back home with me.

Its hard to rope the sun...I tried once and it punched me in the face...
Or maybe that was a big guy named sunny who beat me up that time I was drunk. Eh whatever.

Its hard to rope the sun...I tried once and it punched me in the face...
Or maybe that was a big guy named sunny who beat me up that time I was drunk. Eh whatever.

I just know the sun likes chasing me while wearing his shades. It gets scary...

I just know the sun likes chasing me while wearing his shades. It gets scary...

whats more scary is when it throws two scopes at you (You think there raisins but don't believe the lies)

The citizens of the UER do speak English as a second language; their first (and official) language is 'Eastasian', an Esperanto-esque composite language including elements of languages which fall under the category of 'eastern Asian' and 'southeast Asian'. It's taught at all schools and was originally created during the old Zhonghuan Empire, so it's been around long enough for everyone in the UER to know it. Plus there are of course the 'regional dialects' (Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Vietnamese, etc.). The Eastasians are a bit like the Dutch in that they speak several languages; Marimaia constantly comes in highly ranked for 'Smartest Citizens' so I figure I might as well reflect that.

Anyhoo, Hawdawg, we might as well as have a thread for the embassies and such.

Anyhoo, Hawdawg, we might as well as have a thread for the embassies and such.

Roger that, I will get the thread up today.

Lay, I say again, Ascension is fucking awesome!

More of Ugo's adventures (extremely graphic scenes, reader discretion is advised):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12117000&postcount=17

Ok well, if anyone of you are not paying attention to the war in the U.A.E. then I will bring this up. First off, I will not press godmodding charges here because I really do not care about the Aazad now so im just getting that out of the way.

The recent event that has caught my eye is the complete disregard for the international community here, they have blowen apart Dubai and I mean actually blew it apart. And now they (Or maybe just one of them) are claiming that Abu Dhabi, the large capital city of the U.A.E., is being blowen to peices to the point of sinking the seperate islands the make up the city. I know most of you might back the war but you can't tell me that the complete distruction of two entire cities is actually accepted here, if it is then you people have no moral stances. Lay all I ask from you is to look into things, try and keep the TOA in line, I havn't seen how you go about things but does the TOA acutally allow such things to go on?

On a less ranting note, I was looking at the EII FIFA world cup and now im wishing I hadn't left EII when if first joined. Eh oh well

j'ai revenu!!!!!!!

[on a note, I will be gone for the majority of tomorrow, but that's because I'll be in transient to home. Consider me open mostly for the next two weeks at least.]

Ok well, if anyone of you are not paying attention to the war in the U.A.E. then I will bring this up. First off, I will not press godmodding charges here because I really do not care about the Aazad now so im just getting that out of the way.

The recent event that has caught my eye is the complete disregard for the international community here, they have blowen apart Dubai and I mean actually blew it apart. And now they (Or maybe just one of them) are claiming that Abu Dhabi, the large capital city of the U.A.E., is being blowen to peices to the point of sinking the seperate islands the make up the city. I know most of you might back the war but you can't tell me that the complete distruction of two entire cities is actually accepted here, if it is then you people have no moral stances. Lay all I ask from you is to look into things, try and keep the TOA in line, I havn't seen how you go about things but does the TOA acutally allow such things to go on?

Dude, one little thing you should be aware of before continuing. In the eyes of the world, the Aazad is a terrorist organization very much along the same lines as we percieve Al-Qaida in RL. That in itself is reason enough to ignore the terrorist suffering. Furthermore, it is expressively stated in the TOA Charter that, and I quote,

Thirdly, as an alliance we are all connected. If one nation is attacked we are all attacked. That attack can be military or terrorist but are not limited to these. Member-nations are expected to back up each other to the best of their ability whether that is with money, military equipment, or something else.(...)

This means that we will take whatever step is necessary to eradicate terrorists who have attacked a member state, which in this case is me since you attacked my embassy in Tokyo and accepted responsibility. This means that from the look of things, the TOA isn't gonna back down from its campaign to eradicate terrorism any time soon.

I rest my case.

However, there might be more of an international outcry over the annihalation of an army of allied troops to save a single division of your own men. They are not terrorists.

Well, you can try and get compensation, but I would be willing to bet that nearly everyone who reads the thread will see that it was your fault Spiz, that your troops died, because you placed pride above prudence. I really suggest that many of you read 'On War' and get up to speed on the very basics of warfare. If Haw and myself had not gone ahead with our bombing campaign just because a couple of your troops (who hadn't done much anyway) were in the way, then our troops would probably now be seriously under fire. Unilateralism...look it up.

As for Abu Dhabi, I didn't say the main island would be destroyed by my air-strike, but I dare say, looking at what I dropped on it, there would not be much left.

And another thing, stop talking about the international 'community', there is really no such thing here, no stupid and useless UN or EU or anything like that. When the TOA goes to war we get the job done and we get it done right, and if something's in the way we get it the hell out of the way. Attacking Abu Dhabi with my four corps, for example, would cost many of my troops lives, but we would succeed, have no doubt. But why bother when I could simply level the city from afar and then surround it when there is nothing left but dust? Case closed.

Under fire from what? You could have, asked for my help, there was no reason to go psycho and level the entire and kill millions of civilians just to nail a few thousand insurgents, tatical air cover would have butchered them before they got anywhere near your locations.
And compensation wont be able to cover more than a small fragment of what that cost me, unless you are willing to pay two hundred and eighty billion dollars.

Ok well, if anyone of you are not paying attention to the war in the U.A.E. then I will bring this up. First off, I will not press godmodding charges here because I really do not care about the Aazad now so im just getting that out of the way.

The recent event that has caught my eye is the complete disregard for the international community here, they have blowen apart Dubai and I mean actually blew it apart. And now they (Or maybe just one of them) are claiming that Abu Dhabi, the large capital city of the U.A.E., is being blowen to peices to the point of sinking the seperate islands the make up the city. I know most of you might back the war but you can't tell me that the complete distruction of two entire cities is actually accepted here, if it is then you people have no moral stances. Lay all I ask from you is to look into things, try and keep the TOA in line, I havn't seen how you go about things but does the TOA acutally allow such things to go on?


Dude TOA is not bound by any morals, they are by any understanding of the word evil. A while back when we had a stand off while I did nothing to NG's citizens he put mine living on his territory into concentration camps, now Cot is doing basically the same thing. TOA has no morals, they are the oppressors of the world, thats why I think its about time the world's nations came together and got rid of em or atleast gave them plenty of a bloody nose so they would learn to not mess with other people's business.

Not $280 Billion, would five bucks do?

I did ask for your help, at least twice by email and once or twice in the RP. I specifically asked you to move your forces back so we could level the city. You didn't respond, thus its your fault.

Dude, one little thing you should be aware of before continuing. In the eyes of the world, the Aazad is a terrorist organization very much along the same lines as we percieve Al-Qaida in RL. That in itself is reason enough to ignore the terrorist suffering. Furthermore, it is expressively stated in the TOA Charter that, and I quote,

I understand that I am a terrorist organization but, explain to me how that justifies blowing apart entire cities. Not even the USSR blew apart cities when it fought to Taliban and they usually would rely on any means necessary. The elimination of entire cities is going far above the simple call of duty, thats plain and simply murder, and if you think that the territories would allow that to happen then greet your people as liberators you must be in your own little world. I realize what I said was kinda going out of line, the godmodding thing was a little stupid but you cant actually believe after blowing apart two cities the people of the U.A.E. or even the Ash Sharqiyah Province are going to cheer in the streets when they hear the only fighters actually protecting them have been eradicated. If I find a way to get U.S.R. troops down there, from the looks of things, I'll have plenty of supports and it shouldn't be called godmodding after you gave them reason to fight against you.

Also Hirg when I said the International Community I just meant in the eyes of the worlds nations, thats all.

Pushka, if you get the chance I need to talk to you on AIM.

Nero, the people in the UAE are former Elephantum citizens, not your nut-case IslamoNazis, and as well as that most will have left the cities. They certainly would not see terrorists as liberators, and they would know that they would be better off under COH or Hawdawg or anyone else's rule- they could look to Ash Shariqah and see that COH forces were followed by the COH Red Cross and Red Crescent, and then power was handed to the rightful owners of the territory, the Eurasians, with part of it going to the Cots who are developing the Oil Fields in the area, helping the people to prosper-the same will be true for the UAE, and I doubt they'd want to be under the yoke of Russian Commies who have no business in the Middle East.
As well as that, if they did put up any fight we'd just kill them.

Just get on with the RP please.

Nerotika, I agree with you but think about it - the people that would be most offended would be the Arab countries (me, Arsunt, Ottoman) and none of us would be willing to do anything because:
A: Some of these countries probably don't even recognize me or Arsunt let alone give a sh*t about our opinions.
B: Ottoman is gaining territory and the less survivors means less Elephanti nationalists/Islamists to worry about.

Nero, the people in the UAE are former Elephantum citizens, not your nut-case IslamoNazis, and as well as that most will have left the cities. They certainly would not see terrorists as liberators, and they would know that they would be better off under COH or Hawdawg or anyone else's rule- they could look to Ash Shariqah and see that COH forces were followed by the COH Red Cross and Red Crescent, and then power was handed to the rightful owners of the territory, the Eurasians, with part of it going to the Cots who are developing the Oil Fields in the area, helping the people to prosper-the same will be true for the UAE, and I doubt they'd want to be under the yoke of Russian Commies who have no business in the Middle East.
As well as that, if they did put up any fight we'd just kill them.

Just get on with the RP please.

And that solved the problem, someone cries wolf and instead of looking for the wolf you kill the crier. (Kinda makes sense but you need to look hard)

Murder solves nothing, it provides reason for people to revolt. Just cause they are civilians of Elephantums doesn't mean they wouldn't be pissed at the way you dealt with the situation.

Also, don't hand me that propaganda BS. Just cause the red cross comes in to help doesn't mean people will take it. These territories are filled with devout muslims and all you did was come in, kill of thousands of followers to their faiths, destroyed two entire cities and then are placing a police state within where, in cottish territories, the right to own a weapon becomes terroristic and the owner is killed. By your standards anyone who cried out against you would also be killed, dictator much?

Come on man, you can't tell me you don't see my side of things?

Well, you can try and get compensation, but I would be willing to bet that nearly everyone who reads the thread will see that it was your fault Spiz, that your troops died, because you placed pride above prudence. I really suggest that many of you read 'On War' and get up to speed on the very basics of warfare. If Haw and myself had not gone ahead with our bombing campaign just because a couple of your troops (who hadn't done much anyway) were in the way, then our troops would probably now be seriously under fire. Unilateralism...look it up.

As for Abu Dhabi, I didn't say the main island would be destroyed by my air-strike, but I dare say, looking at what I dropped on it, there would not be much left.

And another thing, stop talking about the international 'community', there is really no such thing here, no stupid and useless UN or EU or anything like that. When the TOA goes to war we get the job done and we get it done right, and if something's in the way we get it the hell out of the way. Attacking Abu Dhabi with my four corps, for example, would cost many of my troops lives, but we would succeed, have no doubt. But why bother when I could simply level the city from afar and then surround it when there is nothing left but dust? Case closed.

I get my military maxims from Sun Zi: "It is best to maintain the enemy's army, second best to destroy it. It is best to capture an enemy general, second best to kill him. It is best to capture the enemy's captial, second best to destroy it."

The point of that maxim = Destroying the enemy means a lot of pain. Someone has to rebuild it, and if it's you, that means you pay money, manpower, resources, and otherwise useful commodities to its reconstruction. But I imagine that your government must have no use for the city, since you've probably completely pummeled it into oblivion. It's probably ethically, morally, and politically wrong to destroy an entire city [especially in RL... but that's another case], but coming from an economic standpoint, it's a stupid maneuver. What was otherwise useful resources is incinerated in an attempt to bring about the least possible cost. The truth is you've probably cost yourself more in the long-term than the short-term by destroying the city.

Perhaps the city is useless, but its economy there is probably central to many of the functions in that country [aside from Dubai]. By destroying Abu Dhabi, you've destroyed the best habitable locations hundreds of thousands of people, destroyed a lucrative market in which to invest a wealth of resources to extract, destroyed an entire line of people capable of working in your industries and commercial services, and destroyed the scholastic population possibly bringing new technological advances to your country. Casting ethics aside, you've probably triggered an event worse than Layarteb nuking his own island.

Personally, I care about ethics, but in comparison with all of the other practical and sensible matters, this steeps a very new low - it either means that you don't care enough about the effects of your actions that you're willing to risk anything and everything to attain objectives that could be otherwise achieved by means that procure a more lasting settlement, or you aren't willing to take up the responsibility of the UAE - because someone is going to have to pay for it, economically or ethically. And that's not a case of morals; that's a case of realism.

Dude TOA is not bound by any morals, they are by any understanding of the word evil. A while back when we had a stand off while I did nothing to NG's citizens he put mine living on his territory into concentration camps, now Cot is doing basically the same thing. TOA has no morals, they are the oppressors of the world, thats why I think its about time the world's nations came together and got rid of em or atleast gave them plenty of a bloody nose so they would learn to not mess with other people's business.
Well, with all but one of the member nations in the TOA being dictatorships, you are essensially correct in your assessment. We have no qualms with slaying the enemy in the most gruesome manner possible, should he try anything stupid against us. The thing in Siberia is that our two peoples hate each other's guts ICly, with no qualms about committing genocide to clear each other off the face of the planet. It is just the IC religious morals of the Cottish government that keeps me from conducting a little genocide in Ust-Orda. How does the RDU value the lives of 22 million of its citizens? Because if it comes to war between us, Ust-Orda will be cleared of life because ICly the Pushkans have proven (again) that they cannot be trusted.
I understand that I am a terrorist organization but, explain to me how that justifies blowing apart entire cities. Not even the USSR blew apart cities when it fought to Taliban and they usually would rely on any means necessary. The elimination of entire cities is going far above the simple call of duty, thats plain and simply murder, and if you think that the territories would allow that to happen then greet your people as liberators you must be in your own little world. I realize what I said was kinda going out of line, the godmodding thing was a little stupid but you cant actually believe after blowing apart two cities the people of the U.A.E. or even the Ash Sharqiyah Province are going to cheer in the streets when they hear the only fighters actually protecting them have been eradicated. If I find a way to get U.S.R. troops down there, from the looks of things, I'll have plenty of supports and it shouldn't be called godmodding after you gave them reason to fight against you.

Also Hirg when I said the International Community I just meant in the eyes of the worlds nations, thats all.
Terrorists are not considered to be human beings by the Realm, and are therefore treated as we treat sick dogs: We kill them. There is no Geneva Convention or Human Rights in Earth II, and even if it were, the Geneva Convention doesn't encompass illegal combattants which is what terrorists are considered to be IRL. It is this excuse Bush uses to justify Guantanamo Bay and the secret CIA-run prisons, so tough cookie.

As for Ash Sharqiyah, I don't expect the people to cheer. In fact, most of the civilians that weren't executed by my military for being terrorists or terrorist symphatisers have already fled into Ottoman Khaif territory as refugees, with the rest living under the oke of military occupation. I've made no attempt to claim that they are happy with living under Cottish military rule, nor will I do so in the future.

So to sum things up, no one really gives a shit about the goings on in Arabia. I would have expected Ottoman Khaif to perhaps lift an eyebrow or something, but he doesn't give a crap either. So yeah.

Can we return to playing the game now?

Well, I posted. But on the ground of the Geneva convention and such, I never claimed there to be one active on EII I saw what you said the Spizania after he claimed mistreatment of Aazad soldiers.

I am not going to even go into that part at all. Don't worry anymore I'm done arguing my point, you guys can back down off your propaganda podium and return to your golden palaces, right above the shitty houses you must place your people in.

So to sum things up, no one really gives a shit about the goings on in Arabia. I would have expected Ottoman Khaif to perhaps lift an eyebrow or something, but he doesn't give a crap either. So yeah.



Yes, my nation could care less what's going on...as long as the fighting doesn't spread into my lands...we don't care..

Well, with all but one of the member nations in the TOA being dictatorships, you are essensially correct in your assessment. We have no qualms with slaying the enemy in the most gruesome manner possible, should he try anything stupid against us. The thing in Siberia is that our two peoples hate each other's guts ICly, with no qualms about committing genocide to clear each other off the face of the planet. It is just the IC religious morals of the Cottish government that keeps me from conducting a little genocide in Ust-Orda. How does the RDU value the lives of 22 million of its citizens? Because if it comes to war between us, Ust-Orda will be cleared of life because ICly the Pushkans have proven (again) that they cannot be trusted.

Trusted? Haha, thats a good one, you take all my lands and you expect me to want to have better relations with you? As for people in Ust-Orda, I wouldn't be so sure that they'll be all killed, I intend to not leave a Cot alive in the whole of Siberia and I intend to do it before you can retaliate, anyways, you'll find out when it happens which shouldn't be long now.

ICly people in Ust-Orda understand that they will have to suffer great casualties, but its better to die standing up when live on your knees, they are ready to die fighting for their motherland, its not the worst of deaths.

Nah, I intend to ensure that they die on their knees, begging for mercy...

Keep on waiting buddy, never gonna happen. Either way, why are we turning this into an OOC rivalry? I mean I go to war with you Lay and Hirgy will just in yet OOCly they don't seem to have any problem with me. Lets keep things civilized alright man?

Ok well, if anyone of you are not paying attention to the war in the U.A.E. then I will bring this up. First off, I will not press godmodding charges here because I really do not care about the Aazad now so im just getting that out of the way.

The recent event that has caught my eye is the complete disregard for the international community here, they have blowen apart Dubai and I mean actually blew it apart. And now they (Or maybe just one of them) are claiming that Abu Dhabi, the large capital city of the U.A.E., is being blowen to peices to the point of sinking the seperate islands the make up the city. I know most of you might back the war but you can't tell me that the complete distruction of two entire cities is actually accepted here, if it is then you people have no moral stances. Lay all I ask from you is to look into things, try and keep the TOA in line, I havn't seen how you go about things but does the TOA acutally allow such things to go on?

Why would you ask me to keep the TOA in line? The TOA is a confederation of nations that retain their sovereignty and as such no one nation has control over the alliance. If they want to bomb the living hell out of you that's their perogative. It isn't the TOA as a whole as there are only 3 nations of the TOA attacking you and the TOA has 6 nations.

j'ai revenu!!!!!!!

[on a note, I will be gone for the majority of tomorrow, but that's because I'll be in transient to home. Consider me open mostly for the next two weeks at least.]

Welcome back.

Dude TOA is not bound by any morals, they are by any understanding of the word evil. A while back when we had a stand off while I did nothing to NG's citizens he put mine living on his territory into concentration camps, now Cot is doing basically the same thing. TOA has no morals, they are the oppressors of the world, thats why I think its about time the world's nations came together and got rid of em or atleast gave them plenty of a bloody nose so they would learn to not mess with other people's business.

It's good to see the rhetoric hasn't change though I do beg to differ, the Empire pinnacles itself on morals and doesn't mess with other peoples' business. You lump all nations of the OA into one, as you did way back when, and it is obviously you never really read much into the alliance or else you would understand that we, as a whole, are 6 very different nations.

I understand that I am a terrorist organization but, explain to me how that justifies blowing apart entire cities. Not even the USSR blew apart cities when it fought to Taliban and they usually would rely on any means necessary. The elimination of entire cities is going far above the simple call of duty, thats plain and simply murder, and if you think that the territories would allow that to happen then greet your people as liberators you must be in your own little world. I realize what I said was kinda going out of line, the godmodding thing was a little stupid but you cant actually believe after blowing apart two cities the people of the U.A.E. or even the Ash Sharqiyah Province are going to cheer in the streets when they hear the only fighters actually protecting them have been eradicated. If I find a way to get U.S.R. troops down there, from the looks of things, I'll have plenty of supports and it shouldn't be called godmodding after you gave them reason to fight against you.

Also Hirg when I said the International Community I just meant in the eyes of the worlds nations, thats all.

You do realize there is no international law in E2. No accords have been signed hence none exist.

Saint Lazare, I understand your economic argument about the cities and I agree witth you, but you guessed correctly in that I'm not taking over any part of the UAE, I'll be giving it away to someone, albeit I will pay for much of the reconstruction, or COH companies will be contracted to do it, and will reap the benefits ijn the future, especially in construction!

Nerotika, before you Elephantum controlled the UAE, and it was largely a secular state, not exactly democratic, but still not an Iran or anything. Even in RL the UAE isn't very religous, its mostly a wealthy, westernized society, like another Turkey. It was basically the same under Elephantum. As well as that I have either the 1st or 2nd Largest Muslim population in E2 and people can see that its not a war against religion, but against terrorism.

And people in Hirgizstan are well off, and happy, because unlike in your soviet state, they have and can get good jobs, oppurtunities, advancement and can choose their representatives up to the National Level. As well as that they can live in absolute and total safety. You could not be more wrong about societies in TOA countries.

Thats my engagement with these issues done, I just want to finish the RP now.

It's good to see the rhetoric hasn't change though I do beg to differ, the Empire pinnacles itself on morals and doesn't mess with other peoples' business. You lump all nations of the OA into one, as you did way back when, and it is obviously you never really read much into the alliance or else you would understand that we, as a whole, are 6 very different nations.

Oh I do realize that, in that Hawdawg and SB are totally different from the rest of the bunch. However the Layatrebian Empire is infact one of the most evil and morally corrupt nations in TOA, you have shown it many a time through your actions, I don't see why you would deny it. You mess with other people's business all the time, you guys messed with my business and thats why we're in this situation in the first place. Hirgizstan, Cotland are no better, NG is even worse, so yeah thats all I have to say about that.

Oh I do realize that, in that Hawdawg and SB are totally different from the rest of the bunch. However the Layatrebian Empire is infact one of the most evil and morally corrupt nations in TOA, you have shown it many a time through your actions, I don't see why you would deny it. You mess with other people's business all the time, you guys messed with my business and thats why we're in this situation in the first place. Hirgizstan, Cotland are no better, NG is even worse, so yeah thats all I have to say about that.

The EOL is definitely not evil and morally corrupt. We may have some black marks on our record but we're nowhere near there. Those TOA actions in the past were individual actions by individual states. That little war that you exited E2 from was way back when if you want to keep connecting that to now that's fine. If you want to do what you did the last time you came back that's fine but don't expect anything different. You came back last time and threw a match on smoldered and dead cinders, reigniting them, and you're doing it again so you should expect the same reactions. Now if you recognize that 2 out of 6 of the TOA nations are not evil or morally corrupt then apparently it isn't TOA, just those other 4 nations, as you claim. So once again, the alliance as a whole is not responsible for the actions of the nations within.

Well you do tend to do things together. Yes EOL is evil and corrupt, forget our little outbreak, thats nothing, I remember you bombed the shit out of some innocent people in Europe a while back. All you want is expansion and you as well as your whole alliance interferes into other people's business on almost a daily basis. Yes TOA is evil, where is no other way to call it, even though two of its members would probably not perform acts of evil on their own when forced to help out their allies by your charter they do them as well. I really don't understand why you're getting so defensive about it. Your nation is what it is, its just a game in any case.

One final thing before im done with my arguments, Lay when I asked you to control the TOA I was asking you as you being a moderator. All I want is some control over this alliance, you acting outside of the EOL and inside of being the moderator of EII. That's all, though now it doesn't matter sense I'm just letting things slide until the U.A.E. is completely out of my control.

On a lighter note, I made some "special" cookies, if you guys know what I mean (and I think you do) and they are very good...very very good. w00t w00t for "special" bakery needs. Just thought I would throw that out there for you guys...in fact I'm so proud of them I might take pictures of 'em. :)

weed cookies? Never head those. You lucky, lucky bastard.

Well you do tend to do things together. Yes EOL is evil and corrupt, forget our little outbreak, thats nothing, I remember you bombed the shit out of some innocent people in Europe a while back. All you want is expansion and you as well as your whole alliance interferes into other people's business on almost a daily basis. Yes TOA is evil, where is no other way to call it, even though two of its members would probably not perform acts of evil on their own when forced to help out their allies by your charter they do them as well. I really don't understand why you're getting so defensive about it. Your nation is what it is, its just a game in any case.

I think that it would be best to leave such opinions for another place - they clutter up the thread, and a mon avis, it spurs up some hatred among people.

Hatred => madness => insanity => choice words => disaster...

What I find amusing is that you guys keep saying "Let's drop this." and then go right back into the fray of words. Please - either be sincere about stopping, or at least be insincere about your feelings.

On a lighter note, I made some "special" cookies, if you guys know what I mean (and I think you do) and they are very good...very very good. w00t w00t for "special" bakery needs. Just thought I would throw that out there for you guys...in fact I'm so proud of them I might take pictures of 'em. :)

I make GREAT quiche. Wish I could make some now... :(

I make GREAT quiche. Wish I could make some now... :(

I had an argument with myself on whether to make cookies or a big cake...after eating a few cookies, I'm kinda wanting that cake. lol

Well you do tend to do things together. Yes EOL is evil and corrupt, forget our little outbreak, thats nothing, I remember you bombed the shit out of some innocent people in Europe a while back. All you want is expansion and you as well as your whole alliance interferes into other people's business on almost a daily basis. Yes TOA is evil, where is no other way to call it, even though two of its members would probably not perform acts of evil on their own when forced to help out their allies by your charter they do them as well. I really don't understand why you're getting so defensive about it. Your nation is what it is, its just a game in any case.

You mean Kaliningrad? Which I humiliatingly was defeated? That accepted my military presence at first and then had a coup within that changed that? By the way, do you see my nation participating in the Azad? In half of the other stuff that has happened? No. So no we don't tend to do things together. Some nations tend to do things with each other but that has little to do with the alliance as a whole and the charter does not require that we all help every time, as that has been the case in some situations. In fact most mutual defense pact alliances have clauses like that.

One final thing before im done with my arguments, Lay when I asked you to control the TOA I was asking you as you being a moderator. All I want is some control over this alliance, you acting outside of the EOL and inside of being the moderator of EII. That's all, though now it doesn't matter sense I'm just letting things slide until the U.A.E. is completely out of my control.

Moderating the alliance would defeat the nature of the alliance and defeat the sovereignty that it exemplefies. As far as EII moderator, no complaints have been brought fourth by either side to me so why would they be brought up now? Them bombing you into oblivion isn't necessarily a viable complaint.

I had an argument with myself on whether to make cookies or a big cake...after eating a few cookies, I'm kinda wanting that cake. lol

Getting them munchies ay? Taco Bell man, Taco Bell is the greatest munchie fulfilling establishment on the planet.

Getting them munchies ay? Taco Bell man, Taco Bell is the greatest munchie fulfilling establishment on the planet.

Just ask them to hold the e-coli.

Heh, I do every time.

"Give me a beef burrito with nachos and cheese and don't put any of that bacteria shit in it or I kill you with my bare hands and piss on your corpse."

Thats about how the drive through conversation goes, that plus the manly Russian accent.

Heh, I do every time.

"Give me a beef burrito with nachos and cheese and don't put any of that bacteria shit in it or I kill you with my bare hands and piss on your corpse."

Thats about how the drive through conversation goes, that plus the manly Russian accent.

Speaking of which, Push, can you get me detailed specs on the mobile transporter erector launcher of the Topol-M?

Well, sure I guess, I'll check out some Russian sites.

Well, sure I guess, I'll check out some Russian sites.

I would be appreciated because I based my BGM-218 Luna off it.

Getting them munchies ay? Taco Bell man, Taco Bell is the greatest munchie fulfilling establishment on the planet.

Yes taco bell works and all but theres none near-by. Whoever plans where to build them actually built them all near mexican neighborhoods...which is weird cause its fake mexican food. lol anyway I find the MickyD's dollar menu the be more commonly used :)

On a lighter note, I made some "special" cookies, if you guys know what I mean (and I think you do) and they are very good...very very good. w00t w00t for "special" bakery needs. Just thought I would throw that out there for you guys...in fact I'm so proud of them I might take pictures of 'em. :)

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As long as you stop acting like you're so fucking cool at school whenever you think it's nice to announce to me your blitzed as fuck...

You're Spencer, you no longer have a need to announce that...

You also sort of need a bit of time to mature, just a bit...take it as constructive criticism..

Found something, not much out there

Снаряженная масса, т 44,0
Грузоподъемность, т 80,0
Радиус поворота, м 18,0
Двигатель (тип) ЯМЗ-847.10 (дизельный, 4-тактный, V-12ТО, с турбонаддувом, с непосредственным впрыском топлива и жидкостным охлаждением)
Мощность двигателя, кВт/л.с. (при об/мин) 588/800 (2100)
Максимальная скорость, км/ч 40
Запас хода по топливу, км 500
Преодолеваемый брод, м 1,1

Mass (fully loaded): 44 tons
Maximum load: 80 tons
Turning radius: 18 m
Engine: V-12, diesel with turbocharger
Engine power: 588 kilowatts
Maximum speed: 40 km/h
Range: 500 km
And it can go over hills as tall as 1.1 meters
it has 16x16 wheels

here is a site with a shitload of pics

http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/mzkt7922.shtml

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As long as you stop acting like you're so fucking cool at school whenever you think it's nice to announce to me your blitzed as fuck...

You're Spencer, you no longer have a need to announce that...

You also sort of need a bit of time to mature, just a bit...take it as constructive criticism..

Common Pys, go easy on the kid, hey if next time when I get home after getting wasted I don't pass out by the door I'll let all off you bastards know about it. Its all part of my evil masterplan for world domination.

Yeah I found most of that stuff too. I was hoping for dimensions actually.

Yes taco bell works and all but theres none near-by. Whoever plans where to build them actually built them all near mexican neighborhoods...which is weird cause its fake mexican food. lol anyway I find the MickyD's dollar menu the be more commonly used :)

The one here is about 15 minutes away, but we have one guy in our group who doesn't smoke pot cause it gives him hang over (weird, eh?) so he drives us there. Its a perfect crime.

Yeah I found most of that stuff too. I was hoping for dimensions actually.

Hmm, let me check.

-_-...

As long as you stop acting like you're so fucking cool at school whenever you think it's nice to announce to me your blitzed as fuck...

You're Spencer, you no longer have a need to announce that...

You also sort of need a bit of time to mature, just a bit...take it as constructive criticism..

Quite truthfully I'm just proud that they turned out...man, I have tried so many times to get brownies to work and last time it was more like a weird chocolate liquid...I am just so proud of my accomplishment...that and I made a Bosnian kid shut up about how the U.S. military is corrupt (Psy, you know who Im talking about) just cause its true doesn't mean he should be disin' them.

The one here is about 15 minutes away, but we have one guy in our group who doesn't smoke pot cause it gives him hang over (weird, eh?) so he drives us there. Its a perfect crime.

Yeah Psy's kinda that guy in our group...only without the driving, and im not sure if he likes it or not but he doesn't do it as often. I mean with the driving thing though, he crashes without the influence image him under it :eek:.

I'm just messin' wit ya Psy, its all in good fun :)

Hmm found this Ukrainian site, and I don't their language but I can understand parts of it since its very similar to Russian in many ways. Well apparently it can go through water up to 1.1 m deep. Has 800 hp and I got this number 1.600х600-685 it might be the size but I don't know. I'll look a bit more.

K got length, 20 m, can't find the width though I looked just about everywhere.

Hmm found this Ukrainian site, and I don't their language but I can understand parts of it since its very similar to Russian in many ways. Well apparently it can go through water up to 1.1 m deep. Has 800 hp and I got this number 1.600х600-685 it might be the size but I don't know. I'll look a bit more.

It could be centimeters, who knows. Link me to the site.

So is this thing a mobile missile launcher? I only saw picture, didn't really take the time to look into it.

If you are a member of EII or happen to sign up for the offsite forums check this out

Elections (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6384#6384)

You will get to decide my next President

Pretty cool brink.

If you are a member of EII or happen to sign up for the offsite forums check this out

Elections (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6384#6384)

You will get to decide my next President

I got some questions up for ya.

The U.S.R supports Kobe and his running mate, although we aren't so sure if he is going toward social policies or if he's a military maniac.

Also if anyone is interested, don't know if you guys like the game halo or not, but I started a Halo RP thread that might be promising. Its about the war on Earth only without the master Chief cause I have seen to many Halo RP's get that one guy who wants to be MC and then he blows him out of proportion like he's a god or something.

Anyway thought I would mention it if you guys are interested check it out.

It could be centimeters, who knows. Link me to the site.

http://forum1.offroad-bulgaria.com/viewtopic.php?p=5127&sid=651aa36ccef37ab61661a7cb707bc320

and its apparently a bulgarian site

So is this thing a mobile missile launcher? I only saw picture, didn't really take the time to look into it.

Yeah, its a mobile missile launcher designed to carry a Topol-M ballistic missile

Dude TOA is not bound by any morals, they are by any understanding of the word evil. A while back when we had a stand off while I did nothing to NG's citizens he put mine living on his territory into concentration camps, now Cot is doing basically the same thing. TOA has no morals, they are the oppressors of the world, thats why I think its about time the world's nations came together and got rid of em or atleast gave them plenty of a bloody nose so they would learn to not mess with other people's business.


Trusted? Haha, thats a good one, you take all my lands and you expect me to want to have better relations with you? As for people in Ust-Orda, I wouldn't be so sure that they'll be all killed, I intend to not leave a Cot alive in the whole of Siberia and I intend to do it before you can retaliate, anyways, you'll find out when it happens which shouldn't be long now.

ICly people in Ust-Orda understand that they will have to suffer great casualties, but its better to die standing up when live on your knees, they are ready to die fighting for their motherland, its not the worst of deaths.


Oh I do realize that, in that Hawdawg and SB are totally different from the rest of the bunch. However the Layatrebian Empire is infact one of the most evil and morally corrupt nations in TOA, you have shown it many a time through your actions, I don't see why you would deny it. You mess with other people's business all the time, you guys messed with my business and thats why we're in this situation in the first place. Hirgizstan, Cotland are no better, NG is even worse, so yeah thats all I have to say about that.



Funny Pushka, when you came back you were all warm and fuzzy upon arrival. I thought you where coming back to live "peacefully" here on Earth II. My how you have changed in a few days. I guess old dogs can't learn new tricks after all. Oh and one other thing get off the morals thing lest I bring up the melting of the polar ice cap again. If you feel the righteousness to attack Pushka please do so, the ranting on and on and on like the energizer bunny really is unbecoming. Quit trying to entice someone to shoot at you first, make that first step on your own.

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Nerotika:

You told Hirgy and me in a few of the earlier posts in the RP that we needed to split our forces and attack certain areas that we weren't even engaging yet. Do you remember my response? I said I liked to kill flies with a sledge hammer. When I blew up Dubai that was an example of my military using massive overkill to eliminate a problem. The question you posed about how do we have all these weapons of war available to use and still have a viable economy? Well I for one earned a little less than 9 trillion dollars in the BISE before it went belly-up and I haven't fired a shot in anger at anyone since Pushka left last time. Which means I have been steadily stocking up for a cold winter.

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ATTENTION:

I am leaving for the massive roadtrip from hell tomorrow morning in which I must run the gauntlet of Christmas Parties through Monday Night. I won't be anywhere near a computer until Tuesday. If I have something going with you in a RP, you'll have to wait until I return, Sorry.

MARI: I will get our embassy thread up when I get back, crazy day at work today, couldn't find time to write.

Funny Pushka, when you came back you were all warm and fuzzy upon arrival. I thought you where coming back to live "peacefully" here on Earth II. My how you have changed in a few days. I guess old dogs can't learn new tricks after all. Oh and one other thing get off the morals thing lest I bring up the melting of the polar ice cap again. If you feel the righteousness to attack Pushka please do so, the ranting on and on and on like the energizer bunny really is unbecoming. Quit trying to entice someone to shoot at you first, make that first step on your own.



Polar icecaps? I have proven in a long (about 10 page) debate with Lay that it could be done without harming the environment so you can mention all you want. Now the first day I came back I told Cot (I think it was my second post) that I will attack him because he has my land. I'd like to live peacefully, but I really can't in this situation, simple as that. Don't worry I'll make the first step, things are already in motion. I am not ranting, I am not saying anything anymore, now if you want me to stop typing on this issue, when stop bothering me, I let Lay have the last word and I cut it off at that, you're bringing it back.

Yeah Psy's kinda that guy in our group...only without the driving, and im not sure if he likes it or not but he doesn't do it as often. I mean with the driving thing though, he crashes without the influence image him under it :eek:.

I'm just messin' wit ya Psy, its all in good fun :)

I have hangovers?

Boy, I'd love to see you go through 12 Corona's all of them chugged under 7 seconds and wake up the next morning going -

'Yea, I remember when you passed out :-P'.

Or, drink half a high-proof vodka meant to serve multiple people but it's all to yourself and go - 'Hah, atleast I could walk straight :-P'

and then, I'd like to see you go through 3 Jackhammers mostly filled with Vodka with barely in OJ and go -

'Mmm, 'dat was some good shit we had along with the alcohol.'

Yea, I win.

The problem is -

I control my problem, you sort of let it control you.

I swear there is not a day when this guy is sober. And, if he is, it's because he was in negative funds or he really really really really really really really really *this can go on for a few more hours....so I'll cut to the end* really really really was too bussy going - 'ooo, pretty colors' because you think you're still baked.

Yea...

I think I win, still.

:-P, with love -

The only friend that would be IN the cell with you going -

'Man, remember how long it took them to catch us?'

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I have hangovers?

Boy, I'd love to see you go through 12 Corona's all of them chugged under 7 seconds and wake up the next morning going -

'Yea, I remember when you passed out :-P'.

Or, drink half a high-proof vodka meant to serve multiple people but it's all to yourself and go - 'Hah, atleast I could walk straight :-P'

and then, I'd like to see you go through 3 Jackhammers mostly filled with Vodka with barely in OJ and go -

'Mmm, 'dat was some good shit we had along with the alcohol.'

Yea, I win.

The problem is -

I control my problem, you sort of let it control you.

I swear there is not a day when this guy is sober. And, if he is, it's because he was in negative funds or he really really really really really really really really *this can go on for a few more hours....so I'll cut to the end* really really really was too bussy going - 'ooo, pretty colors' because you think you're still baked.

Yea...

I think I win, still.

:-P, with love -

The only friend that would be IN the cell with you going -

'Man, remember how long it took them to catch us?'

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7 seconds? Not bad. Coronas though, those things might as well be bottles of water. I remember the time this summer when I drank 5 shots of vodka straight with no chaser than an hour later chugged about a fifth in two shots, chased it all with a liter of beer and still had about 6 more shots after that. When I rode on the back of a moped, climbed up the stairs and fell into bed. That was a fun night. Russian powers biatch.

7 seconds? Not bad. I remember the time this summer when I drank 5 shots of vodka straight with no chaser than an hour later chugged about a fifth in two shots, chased it all with a liter of beer and still had about 6 more shots after that. When I rode on the back of a moped, climbed up the stairs and fell into bed. That was a fun night. Russian powers biatch.

Hah...

So you assume I have to have tracers, don't ya :-P

The Jackhammer thing *the OJ - Vod* is the only time I use anything foreign to my Vodka, the reasoning behind it is because it's my cousin's friend's house and it's his drinking rules. That, and since I have no job...

He's my Vodka source, sadly.

Me and Nero have a fun story of when we stupidly should have been drinking INDOORS but luckily...we never had anyone show up other than a few noisy friends with some bitches.

The sad thing is -

I never get hang overs. I think I got one slightly, SLIGHTLY, and that was in the FLU season.

Asides that -

German-Irish-Italian-French Powers, biatch!

>> We should stop posting this stuff here mostly because...

Those moddy's I mentioned...

They no like the random chatty chat...

What are you talking about? Random chatter happens here all the freaking time. It lightens up the mood. Yeah man, I never get hang overs either unless I get alcohol poisoning which happens from time to time, like the night me and my buddies drank that mambo jambo or whatever shit from Dominican republic, it was like a bottle of what looked like water filled with bits of wood, we had a whole gallon of it for three people and we were pregaming a fret party, we killed the whole thing in an hour when we went to the party I took like 20 hits from my friend's bowl and drank a 12 pack. I was cross buzzing like a motherfucker by the end of the night, I even threw up which doesn't happen often, the morning after was a bitch.

Keep on waiting buddy, never gonna happen. Either way, why are we turning this into an OOC rivalry? I mean I go to war with you Lay and Hirgy will just in yet OOCly they don't seem to have any problem with me. Lets keep things civilized alright man?
Just pullin' yer leg :) Let's keep it civil OOCly. What you think of my proposal in the thread? What is it named anyways? I haven't learned Russian yet. Got to learn Arabic first... :(
Hmm found this Ukrainian site, and I don't their language but I can understand parts of it since its very similar to Russian in many ways. Well apparently it can go through water up to 1.1 m deep. Has 800 hp and I got this number 1.600х600-685 it might be the size but I don't know. I'll look a bit more.
Sounds like centimeters. That would be 16 meters by 6 - 6.85 meters.
Polar icecaps? I have proven in a long (about 10 page) debate with Lay that it could be done without harming the environment so you can mention all you want. Now the first day I came back I told Cot (I think it was my second post) that I will attack him because he has my land. I'd like to live peacefully, but I really can't in this situation, simple as that. Don't worry I'll make the first step, things are already in motion. I am not ranting, I am not saying anything anymore, now if you want me to stop typing on this issue, when stop bothering me, I let Lay have the last word and I cut it off at that, you're bringing it back.
Okay, as I told you earlier, you technically have no claim to that land since you went DEAT. Anyways, why do you try to dig up old battleaxes? Let them rest in peace.
(lots of fucking rambling)

Or, drink half a high-proof vodka meant to serve multiple people but it's all to yourself and go - 'Hah, atleast I could walk straight :-P'

and then, I'd like to see you go through 3 Jackhammers mostly filled with Vodka with barely in OJ and go -

(lots of fucking rambling)
Vodka is actually one of the only things that I don't get a hangover from. That, and it's really good shit. I particularly like the mild burning sensation in my mouth after a vodka shot.
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Eh, let me think for a second.

FUCK NO!

I don't take orders from people who can't type correctly...

Why is it that I always seem to be doing someth incorrect?

And it wasn't an order, it was a suggestion. Besides, why would I want someone who can't read correctly to follow my orders?

Why is it that I always seem to be doing someth incorrect?

And it wasn't an order, it was a suggestion. Besides, why would I want someone who can't read correctly to follow my orders?

...spelling the word "Something" correct might be a step in the right direction though. Just saying.

Now see, everyone is doing drinking stories and I would love to join the party but when I drink its usually accompanied wth another substance (The greatest shit in Nebraska) that leaves me forgetting where I put my own hands. Although Psy remembers the stories so he can tell 'em :) .

Pushka, if you ever come to Nebraska trust me man. I can find the greatest stuff you'll ever use...and I mean ever. Personally grown [Yeah like the police are ever gunna search me]. And in about a year that'll be my job for awhile, I dont mind the illeagality (Umm...not a word?) of it all, hey it'll pay the bills until I find something else to work at.

"We all smoke weed, its just a matter of when and where they do it."
My personal quote. :p

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I like the idea. We can stop RPing for awhile and take a break for christmas [Sorry to those who don't celebrate it]. Come on guys, lets support this.

Is the "war on drugs" thread open to just stories of nations combating drug lords and drug related crimes? (Asking because I wanted to write a few TSS crackdown stories)

As of recenttly the U.S.R. has enacted several anti-drug prolicies excluding the use of marijuana [Decriminalized by council vote during anti-drug policies creations]. The current hard drugs being produces and illeagally imported into U.S.R. are all being cracked down on by TSS officers. The TSS is organizing several extra policies to eliminate drug use in the U.S.R.

This thread has got to be one of the fastest growing in the forum, it consistantly puts on two or more pages every night from when i go to bed to when i come back on in the late morning, early afternoon.

Just pullin' yer leg :) Let's keep it civil OOCly. What you think of my proposal in the thread? What is it named anyways? I haven't learned Russian yet. Got to learn Arabic first... :(

It says "Search for the Motherland"

Okay, as I told you earlier, you technically have no claim to that land since you went DEAT. Anyways, why do you try to dig up old battleaxes? Let them rest in peace.

Okay here is the problem here, I would have been completely fine if you have taken all of my old land except the central Siberia but the thing is that land is my people's motherland thus I have no choice but to fight for it. Now if I could say, trade you for it that'd be dandy but I kinda figured that with all those remarks flying between the two of us you wouldn't do it.

Vodka is actually one of the only things that I don't get a hangover from. That, and it's really good shit. I particularly like the mild burning sensation in my mouth after a vodka shot.

Yeah, people don't usually get hang overs from just vodka. The mild burning sensation usually disappears after a second shot, you not drunk or even that buzzed yet but you're happy enough to not give a fuck.

Pushka, if you ever come to Nebraska trust me man. I can find the greatest stuff you'll ever use...and I mean ever. Personally grown [Yeah like the police are ever gunna search me]. And in about a year that'll be my job for awhile, I dont mind the illeagality (Umm...not a word?) of it all, hey it'll pay the bills until I find something else to work at.

"We all smoke weed, its just a matter of when and where they do it."
My personal quote. :p

Dude, that'd be great, the shit they got in Charlotte is shitty, I have to import most of mine from Raleigh and its still not the best but its okay. In Russia though I have a friend who grows it on his dacha (summer house), now that shit is pretty damn good, plus its free.

"Hey, hey, hey smoke weed every day"
-Dave Chapel

"Pour...pour me more....more vodka"
-My drunk friend Gleb

What are you talking about? Random chatter happens here all the freaking time. It lightens up the mood. Yeah man, I never get hang overs either unless I get alcohol poisoning which happens from time to time, like the night me and my buddies drank that mambo jambo or whatever shit from Dominican republic, it was like a bottle of what looked like water filled with bits of wood, we had a whole gallon of it for three people and we were pregaming a fret party, we killed the whole thing in an hour when we went to the party I took like 20 hits from my friend's bowl and drank a 12 pack. I was cross buzzing like a motherfucker by the end of the night, I even threw up which doesn't happen often, the morning after was a bitch.

Sounds like you're a drunk fucker when it comes to alchohol. No offense intended with anything I'm saying here, but I would vomit just watching someone drink that much. Did you go driving around after drinking it?

Sounds like you're a drunk fucker when it comes to alchohol. No offense intended with anything I'm saying here, but I would vomit just watching someone drink that much. Did you go driving around after drinking it?

Nah we had a DD. Yeah Im a drunk and proud of it.

Okay here is the problem here, I would have been completely fine if you have taken all of my old land except the central Siberia but the thing is that land is my people's motherland thus I have no choice but to fight for it. Now if I could say, trade you for it that'd be dandy but I kinda figured that with all those remarks flying between the two of us you wouldn't do it.
ICly, we might very well have done that if you'd asked us nicely and offered us something in return instead of just arming yourself to the teeth and prepared for war. For us, we could have just evacuated the citizens to the Bjornoyan lands we took and called it good riddance. Just a shitload of permafrosted land and ice-cold weather there, no good start for an economic profit. However, as a result of the ICly treatment we've gotten from the Russians, the Cottish government feel an obligation to fight to the last drop of blood over that territory now as a matter of national honor.

TOA has no morals and they don't care. They carpet bombed innocent pantheans, nuked downtown kursk, tried to enslave my people, violated human rights and then roll into some of my former terroriteries and expected to be greeted like libertaters when in reality they were invaded land that was native to Pantheaa so what exactly were they liberating. So the only thing keeping those pantheans in COH in line is fear, cause i refuse to believe that after declaring martial law that they will simply like you for "liberating"
them. That's like shooting someones husband, marrying them expecting them to love you.

and they wonder why i don't do more to particapate with them. Why take the devils money when you can stand on the high moral ground. Those opposed to TOA in any way are like the reformation. And TOA is like the corrupt catholic church. And we all know who won the war between protestant and catholic...let that be a lesson to TOA

ICly, we might very well have done that if you'd asked us nicely and offered us something in return instead of just arming yourself to the teeth and prepared for war. For us, we could have just evacuated the citizens to the Bjornoyan lands we took and called it good riddance. Just a shitload of permafrosted land and ice-cold weather there, no good start for an economic profit. However, as a result of the ICly treatment we've gotten from the Russians, the Cottish government feel an obligation to fight to the last drop of blood over that territory now as a matter of national honor.

And war it is when. Although I could offer you Yakutia for the central siberian lands if you reconsider before the guns start firing. If you do ICly the transfer can be set up I mean Ivan Mishin a good friend of Rothsky is back (even though you don't know about it yet) so it can be done. But thats just a possibility. All up to you. Even if you win you'll have millions of dead soldiers and your economy would suffer a giant blow, ask yourself if its worth it because as I said I need those territories and I'll attempt to get them whatever way I can. Its more when national honor for my people, its their national identity, their bond to their motherland.

TOA has no morals and they don't care. They carpet bombed innocent pantheans, nuked downtown kursk, tried to enslave my people, violated human rights and then roll into some of my former terroriteries and expected to be greeted like libertaters when in reality they were invaded land that was native to Pantheaa so what exactly were they liberating. So the only thing keeping those pantheans in COH in line is fear, cause i refuse to believe that after declaring martial law that they will simply like you for "liberating"
them. That's like shooting someones husband, marrying them expecting them to love you.

and they wonder why i don't do more to particapate with them. Why take the devils money when you can stand on the high moral ground. Those opposed to TOA in any way are like the reformation. And TOA is like the corrupt catholic church. And we all know who won the war between protestant and catholic...let that be a lesson to TOA

Actually forget the entire catholic and protestant thing

I have a better Allegory

TOA are like the Sith and those oppose to them are the Jedi

In case you missed it Pantheaa, I no longer have any Russian territory. And besides that I have alluded in several threads in the past that there was a terrorist threat still in those Pantheaan territories that I used to have.

You see the problem with some is that they believe we, i.e. TOA nations, are godless and bla...bla...bla. The fact of the matter is it simply isn't true, and we in the TOA don't actually care what you choose to believe, its your problem if you delude yourselves, not ours. In any case the situation is very much like the Cold War, we have Pushka, Pys and a few others on one side, some non-aligned countries in the middle like Saint Lazare, Ottoman Khaif, Rome, and then on the other side is the TOA. Neither side believes what the other says, just like the Cold War.

And Pantheaa, if you consider reverting to terrorism the "high moral ground", you have got to do some re-thinking. I know thats not your RL beliefs, but seriously, even for IC its strange, terrorism=moral high ground, I mean c'mon.

Well it can, I mean look at how US labeled people fighting USSR in Afghanistan "freedom fighters" its all a matter of perspective. Pantheaa has a point though, TOA can believe whatever they want but looking at their actions it is easy to see that morality has no role in their decision making process.

You ever seen the end of Rambo III?

Just before the end credits role a message comes up saying, "Dedicated to the gallant people of Afghanistan." Bit of irony there. Although many Afghans are actually quite nice people, their memory has been slightly tarnished by the Taliban etc.

Likewise the USSR had different perspectives aswell, such as the Czech Revolt, they would have probably been seen as terrorists etc in the USSR, yet in the west they were merely seen as freedom fighters etc.

In case you missed it Pantheaa, I no longer have any Russian territory. And besides that I have alluded in several threads in the past that there was a terrorist threat still in those Pantheaan territories that I used to have.

You see the problem with some is that they believe we, i.e. TOA nations, are godless and bla...bla...bla. The fact of the matter is it simply isn't true, and we in the TOA don't actually care what you choose to believe, its your problem if you delude yourselves, not ours. In any case the situation is very much like the Cold War, we have Pushka, Pys and a few others on one side, some non-aligned countries in the middle like Saint Lazare, Ottoman Khaif, Rome, and then on the other side is the TOA. Neither side believes what the other says, just like the Cold War.

And Pantheaa, if you consider reverting to terrorism the "high moral ground", you have got to do some re-thinking. I know thats not your RL beliefs, but seriously, even for IC its strange, terrorism=moral high ground, I mean c'mon.

I like the non-aligned part of the spiel :D

Lay your argument that the TOA is a "confederation of nations" is seriously flawed. Because it is written in the TOA charter that when a nation attacks a TOA member all TOA must come to its defense. So this in turn creates an alliance dedicated to self expansion with no TOA member having to worry about being attacked themselves.

So because of this, it should be expected that when one TOA nation attacks another nation WITHOUT JUST CAUSE then ALL TOA nations should be blamed. As TOA is their shield in which the cowards hide behind for their own selfish expansion. Although im no longer hostile to TOA it is the law of Panthean that if we are attacked by ANY alliance then all members of the alliance will be declared "guilty by association" and therefore also be declared war on. Im not going to pardon the friend of a nation who rapes lady panthea only because he supplied the knife to the rapist.

The Charter says we have to come to their aid, but it does not specify how. Did Lay get involved in Pantheaa or in the Gulf? Nope. Cot is also not involved with operations in the UAE, thats just me and Haw. Are any of us, besides NG, involved in the thing with Doom? Nope. The 'confederation of nations' is anatomically correct, the charter preserves the full and total sovereignty of every nation in the alliance, thats why it has lasted so long.

In case you missed it Pantheaa, I no longer have any Russian territory. And besides that I have alluded in several threads in the past that there was a terrorist threat still in those Pantheaan territories that I used to have.

You see the problem with some is that they believe we, i.e. TOA nations, are godless and bla...bla...bla. The fact of the matter is it simply isn't true, and we in the TOA don't actually care what you choose to believe, its your problem if you delude yourselves, not ours. In any case the situation is very much like the Cold War, we have Pushka, Pys and a few others on one side, some non-aligned countries in the middle like Saint Lazare, Ottoman Khaif, Rome, and then on the other side is the TOA. Neither side believes what the other says, just like the Cold War.

And Pantheaa, if you consider reverting to terrorism the "high moral ground", you have got to do some re-thinking. I know thats not your RL beliefs, but seriously, even for IC its strange, terrorism=moral high ground, I mean c'mon.

BAH! The king of Pantheaa will never ally himself with low birth scum terrorist. The king of Pantheaa is protecter of the Catholic faith, king of Slovakia(in title only) as well as King of Russo-Panthea.
He was directly appointed by God to sit on the Panthean thorne

And a crusade isn't terrorism...to kill an infedel isn't murder it is the path to heaven so says the crazy dude in the Kingdom of Heaven movie

Hmm... I didn't really like that movie. It promised me big kick ass battles and didn't deliver...and that feckless Brit idiot that starred in it, I mean what the hell, he's like 4ft tall and weighs about 90lbs, the swords back then weighed as much as he did!

Anyway, I personally like the new direction the monarchy has taken Pantheaa.

Oh and if Cot agrees to trade me those lands when I will have no more reason to be hostile to TOA, it'll be the good old times again like when I just started on EII

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Terronian started this with EII in the title.

Hmm... I didn't really like that movie. It promised me big kick ass battles and didn't deliver...and that feckless Brit idiot that starred in it, I mean what the hell, he's like 4ft tall and weighs about 90lbs, the swords back then weighed as much as he did!

Anyway, I personally like the new direction the monarchy has taken Pantheaa.

I don't really like Orlando Bloom either, the only reason why Ridley Scott put him in the role is because Scott worked with him before. Bloom had a small role in Black Hawk Down..he played the dumbass who fell out of the blackhawk. And i guess Scott thought "Dam this kid does a good job falling out of the Blackhawk..maybe i should promise him a lead in an upcoming movie of mine". Then Bloom was in LOTR and Pirates and became a big name and so Scott had to put him in the lead role, cause really expect for the Rock their is no action heros left in Hollywood

Gladiator though is probably still Scott's best movie in large part cause Joaquin Phoenix made a badass emperor Commodus. I think people sort of expected Kingdom to be sort of like Gladiator so expections were already really high

Hmm... I didn't really like that movie. It promised me big kick ass battles and didn't deliver...and that feckless Brit idiot that starred in it, I mean what the hell, he's like 4ft tall and weighs about 90lbs, the swords back then weighed as much as he did!

Anyway, I personally like the new direction the monarchy has taken Pantheaa.

I don't really like Orlando Bloom either, the only reason why Ridley Scott put him in the role is because Scott worked with him before. Bloom had a small role in Black Hawk Down..he played the dumbass who fell out of the blackhawk. And i guess Scott thought "Dam this kid does a good job falling out of the Blackhawk..maybe i should promise him a lead in an upcoming movie of mine". Then Bloom was in LOTR and Pirates and became a big name and so Scott had to put him in the lead role, cause really the Rock and a few others are the only action heros left in Hollywood

Ok, so that "War on Drugs" thread...how do you go about posting in it?

(No one really answered my question before)

Scratch that question, didn't realize that on the first page everything is explained...ya know Lay thats something that should be like a bright color :p

http://forum1.offroad-bulgaria.com/viewtopic.php?p=5127&sid=651aa36ccef37ab61661a7cb707bc320

and its apparently a bulgarian site

Thank you.

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I'm not going to mandate RP'ing stop for Christmas but I will say that don't be surprised if posting decreases.

TOA has no morals and they don't care. They carpet bombed innocent pantheans, nuked downtown kursk, tried to enslave my people, violated human rights and then roll into some of my former terroriteries and expected to be greeted like libertaters when in reality they were invaded land that was native to Pantheaa so what exactly were they liberating. So the only thing keeping those pantheans in COH in line is fear, cause i refuse to believe that after declaring martial law that they will simply like you for "liberating"
them. That's like shooting someones husband, marrying them expecting them to love you.

and they wonder why i don't do more to particapate with them. Why take the devils money when you can stand on the high moral ground. Those opposed to TOA in any way are like the reformation. And TOA is like the corrupt catholic church. And we all know who won the war between protestant and catholic...let that be a lesson to TOA

I don't recall being involved with the Pantheaan thing so it couldn't have been TOA.

Lay your argument that the TOA is a "confederation of nations" is seriously flawed. Because it is written in the TOA charter that when a nation attacks a TOA member all TOA must come to its defense. So this in turn creates an alliance dedicated to self expansion with no TOA member having to worry about being attacked themselves.

So because of this, it should be expected that when one TOA nation attacks another nation WITHOUT JUST CAUSE then ALL TOA nations should be blamed. As TOA is their shield in which the cowards hide behind for their own selfish expansion. Although im no longer hostile to TOA it is the law of Panthean that if we are attacked by ANY alliance then all members of the alliance will be declared "guilty by association" and therefore also be declared war on. Im not going to pardon the friend of a nation who rapes lady panthea only because he supplied the knife to the rapist.

What "mutual defense pact" doesn't have a stipulation that an attack on one is an attack on all? Without said clause it would defeat the purpose of a "mutual defense pact." It doesn't say how though and I must say that I did not wage war against you nor have I against Nero. I only asked TOA support once and that was during Yelm. Other wars I've waged, I've done so mostly on my own (often I'll get some SOF help here and there but that's minor stuff). In fact, I think I've helped out O.K. in his wars more than TOA nations, though I might just be tired on that one. So if one TOA nation attacks the whole alliance gets blamed? What sense does that make? I tell you what, if one Pantheaan commits murder I'm going to indict the entire country on murder charges for guilty by association. Congratulations on having one of the most ridiculous statements ever.

Oh and if Cot agrees to trade me those lands when I will have no more reason to be hostile to TOA, it'll be the good old times again like when I just started on EII

That sounds like an ultimatum and forgive me for saying but BULLSHIT. Your hostility to TOA will never cease.

Scratch that question, didn't realize that on the first page everything is explained...ya know Lay thats something that should be like a bright color :p

Or you should just read a little more thoroughly. The text is size 1 and bold and draws attention, maybe not like a neon sign but it caught the attention of everyone else...

That sounds like an ultimatum and forgive me for saying but BULLSHIT. Your hostility to TOA will never cease.

It can cease very easily, all that has to be done is elimination of reasons for that hostility, the only one being the Cottish control of my native territory. Mind you it was the TOA that started the hostile situation in the first place with NG's submarine situation a while back. I am already over it, before the hostilities began me and Cotland were very close allies, Rothsky and Ivan Mishin very close friends. I remember you telling me how you and I think Hirgizstan actually waged war against SB and now he is part of TOA and your very close ally, as you can see reversal of a nation's position towards other nations can occur.

It can cease very easily, all that has to be done is elimination of reasons for that hostility, the only one being the Cottish control of my native territory. Mind you it was the TOA that started the hostile situation in the first place with NG's submarine situation a while back. I am already over it, before the hostilities began me and Cotland were very close allies, Rothsky and Ivan Mishin very close friends. I remember you telling me how you and I think Hirgizstan actually waged war against SB and now he is part of TOA and your very close ally, as you can see reversal of a nation's position towards other nations can occur.
Pushka, I am at the moment considering your proposal, but let me see if I've understood this correctly. Bear in mind that I have made no decision as of yet, but my verdict may depend on the answer to my understanding of the offer.

I give you the territories I have in Siberia on the Russian mainland in exchange for your lands in eastern Russia? Essensially a switch, right? And as a result of this, the Pushkan incentive to monger war will cease to exist?

Let me know if I've understood correctly.

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Pushka, I am at the moment considering your proposal, but let me see if I've understood this correctly. Bear in mind that I have made no decision as of yet, but my verdict may depend on the answer to my understanding of the offer.

I give you the territories I have in Siberia on the Russian mainland in exchange for your lands in eastern Russia? Essensially a switch, right? And as a result of this, the Pushkan incentive to monger war will cease to exist?

Let me know if I've understood correctly.

You get Yakutia which is about the same size as the central siberian lands you have right now, I keep chukotka and magadan and yes my reason for war will vanish.

It can cease very easily, all that has to be done is elimination of reasons for that hostility, the only one being the Cottish control of my native territory. Mind you it was the TOA that started the hostile situation in the first place with NG's submarine situation a while back. I am already over it, before the hostilities began me and Cotland were very close allies, Rothsky and Ivan Mishin very close friends. I remember you telling me how you and I think Hirgizstan actually waged war against SB and now he is part of TOA and your very close ally, as you can see reversal of a nation's position towards other nations can occur.

Whats that bit about me waging war against SB? When did that happen, Smolny rings a bell. You see back when he started SB was a communist and the original TOA members, NG, Lay and myself, were all extremely anti-communist, so maybe I did clash with him at one point. Can't remember it though.

It can cease very easily, all that has to be done is elimination of reasons for that hostility, the only one being the Cottish control of my native territory. Mind you it was the TOA that started the hostile situation in the first place with NG's submarine situation a while back. I am already over it, before the hostilities began me and Cotland were very close allies, Rothsky and Ivan Mishin very close friends. I remember you telling me how you and I think Hirgizstan actually waged war against SB and now he is part of TOA and your very close ally, as you can see reversal of a nation's position towards other nations can occur.

Actually me, Hirgy, and NG waged war against SB during the Smolny civil war. It was capitalist vs. communist at first and SB was communist but then the Smolny side changed to terrorism and SB switched sides and eventually strayed away from communism and thus the OA was born. It was actually NG who thought of the name, quite catchy.

There was a time when the Empire was allies with you as well, way back when, but incidents over time galvanized us against ye. The polar ice cap thing really set it in (but we're leaving that in the past).

Might I please ask that all members of the OA go to our forums there is something of importance there.

Also I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Empire will no longer employ the AGM-65 Maverick air to ground missile and, instead, has deployed the new AGM-222 Longhorn, which is an improved, upgraded, remodeled, rebuilt, and remade AGM-65 Maverick with better range, guidance, propulsion, flight characteristics, speed, and the option of either a 300 pound penetrating, blast-fragmentation warhead or a 300 pound thermobaric warhead.

Oh and if Cot agrees to trade me those lands when I will have no more reason to be hostile to TOA, it'll be the good old times again like when I just started on EII


Yeah for about ten minutes.

It can cease very easily, all that has to be done is elimination of reasons for that hostility, the only one being the Cottish control of my native territory. Mind you it was the TOA that started the hostile situation in the first place with NG's submarine situation a while back. I am already over it, before the hostilities began me and Cotland were very close allies, Rothsky and Ivan Mishin very close friends. I remember you telling me how you and I think Hirgizstan actually waged war against SB and now he is part of TOA and your very close ally, as you can see reversal of a nation's position towards other nations can occur.

Uh I can pull the thread but I believe the statement came from you and I am paraphrasing, "Fine if you all want a war then lets do this." This was followed by much banter on Air-to-Air Missile Ranges, lots of IMSDAL missiles fired at Pushkan Naval Vessels, some Hawdawg Naval losses, lots of damage to Hirgy's Coast Guard Station, and your prompt exit from Earth II.

Uh I can pull the thread but I believe the statement came from you and I am paraphrasing, "Fine if you all want a war then lets do this." This was followed by much banter on Air-to-Air Missile Ranges, lots of IMSDAL missiles fired at Pushkan Naval Vessels, some Hawdawg Naval losses, lots of damage to Hirgy's Coast Guard Station, and your prompt exit from Earth II.

I don't really see how that has any relevance, that was back than and this is now. My situation has changed and I am offering peace, now we can either fight it out with millions of looses on both sides or we can handle this through diplomacy, choice is up to Cotland and no one else at this point. I am tired of always feeling like I am one against the world, I'd like to go back to the times when me and the Cots were allies, hell I even initially purchased my whole navy from him a while back. All thats standing in the way of peace right now is Cottish ownership of Central Siberian lands that I have offered a trade for, once again its all up to him.

How rude of me not to say but the LDC has a new type of SSN that has been developed and is being exported. It is vastly superior to our Hades class SSN. All nations who are interested inquire via telegram.

I don't really see how that has any relevance, that was back than and this is now. My situation has changed and I am offering peace, now we can either fight it out with millions of looses on both sides or we can handle this through diplomacy, choice is up to Cotland and no one else at this point. I am tired of always feeling like I am one against the world, I'd like to go back to the times when me and the Cots were allies, hell I even initially purchased my whole navy from him a while back. All thats standing in the way of peace right now is Cottish ownership of Central Siberian lands that I have offered a trade for, once again its all up to him.

call me crazy, but threatening war in exchange for territory changes is extortion in my book - why not drop the case and find some other way to get it back?


How rude of me not to say but the LDC has a new type of SSN that has been developed and is being exported. It is vastly superior to our Hades class SSN. All nations who are interested inquire via telegram.

damnit - I knew the government has been planning a massive covert military operation to subvert the population into becoming a biological compost pact, thereby becoming extreme weapons of mass destruction in the countries they wish to visit.
[ooc: to better understand this wild tangent, TG me and I shall gladly explain it :D]



India is almost cemented, but in its place shall come something that may or may not shock all of you

:eek:

Yeah for about ten minutes.

I'll be pining in my room now :(


Thank you.

Go on AIM SL.

call me crazy, but threatening war in exchange for territory changes is extortion in my book - why not drop the case and find some other way to get it back?

I don't see any other way. I am simply proposing a peaceful solution, I should have done that sooner and thats my mistake I admit but that doesn't change the fact that I must have those territories back. Anyways, how many times do I have to tell you? Its all up to Cot now.

I don't see any other way. I am simply proposing a more peaceful option. I must have those territories back but since where is a way to get them without waging war I'd love to go with it. Anyways, how many times do I have to tell you? Its all up to Cot now.

Still extortion.

Still extortion.

Seconded.

View it whatever way you want, its the only peaceful solution.

well... that's what I'd call desperate extortion [desperate in place of other adjectives...]

Well I don't really care what you call it as I have said plenty of times now. Its up to Cot to decide if its in his interests for me to wage a war against him over a barely profitable province of his. I am not desperate, if war is what he wants, I'll accept that and I'll respect that.

Well I don't really care what you call it as I have said plenty of times now. Its up to Cot to decide if its in his interests for me to wage a war against him over a barely profitable province of his. I am not desperate, if war is what he wants, I'll accept that and I'll respect that.

Offer a trade or money. There are other options besides a threat.

EDIT- On another front, I have my first ever "action shot" of the new Emperor, Valerius, in "The Winter War". Go have a look, if you'd like.

Offer a trade or money. There are other options besides a threat.

EDIT- On another front, I have my first ever "action shot" of the new Emperor, Valerius, in "The Winter War". Go have a look, if you'd like.

Eh that is what I am doing, I offered him Yakutia for those lands.

Any chance I can get this added somewhere. It's an Earth II Private Military Corporation.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12128354#post12128354

Any chance I can get this added somewhere. It's an Earth II Private Military Corporation.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12128354#post12128354

I'm sorry to have to bring this bad news but you were removed from E2 some time ago for Decree 12.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs had reviewed our foreign relations to individual nations and is making the following changes:


Koryan: The Empire would like to inquire with The Militarist Democracy of Korya about an embassy exchange program.
Neuvo Rica: The Empire would like to elevate the Empire of Neuvo Rica to an embassy category with an embassy exchange program.
Pushka: The Empire recognizes the Russian Dictatorial Union as the legitimate state in its lands but does not wish to endeavor onto diplomatic relations just yet.
RomeW: The Empire wishes to inquire with the Romans about the possibility of a Free Trade Agreement.
The Deathbat Republic: The Empire wishes to inquire with the The Deathbat Republic about the possibility of an embassy exchange program.

I don't really see how that has any relevance, that was back than and this is now. My situation has changed and I am offering peace, now we can either fight it out with millions of looses on both sides or we can handle this through diplomacy, choice is up to Cotland and no one else at this point. I am tired of always feeling like I am one against the world, I'd like to go back to the times when me and the Cots were allies, hell I even initially purchased my whole navy from him a while back. All thats standing in the way of peace right now is Cottish ownership of Central Siberian lands that I have offered a trade for, once again its all up to him.


Just wanted to point out that you pulled the trigger on that battle not us as you claimed. Yes tensions were high in the region, yes the cold war cat and mouse games were going on, but you Pushka initiated the battle by saying "let's do this". So quit trying to change history to fit your twisted logic for coalition building. I don't buy the WMD's spin and nations not around during that conflict need to know the rest of the story.

-Hawdawg

Let Ascensión resume...

Here's the famed submarine incident (good RP btw)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456208

Just wanted to point out that you pulled the trigger on that battle not us as you claimed. Yes tensions were high in the region, yes the cold war cat and mouse games were going on, but you Pushka initiated the battle by saying "let's do this". So quit trying to change history to fit your twisted logic for coalition building. I don't buy the WMD's spin and nations not around during that conflict need to know the rest of the story.

-Hawdawg

Oh don't worry about my coalition, where are a lot of nations who are pissed off at TOA and will be pissed off at it even if I don't fight a war against Cot. Actually the whole incident there was initiated by my EMP attack on Cot's ship, the lets do it phrase appeared after that. But you have to mind the fact that where were a lot of contributions from TOA that also helped begin the conflict, one would be NG putting all of my citizens living on his territory into concentration camps, another the Sechnucht (i don't think I spelled it right) incident, and of course NG's submarine thing, than there was Bjornyan betrayal, TOA backed him, etc. But once again this is the past, it has no relevance right now.

I'm sorry to have to bring this bad news but you were removed from E2 some time ago for Decree 12.


I iknow that silly goose. But I thought with the approval of yourself or someone else, you could rp terrosit groups and stuff even though you are not in EII. I am making a PMC, should be fun to rp in EII

Oh don't worry about my coalition, where are a lot of nations who are pissed off at TOA and will be pissed off at it even if I don't fight a war against Cot. Actually the whole incident there was initiated by my EMP attack on Cot's ship, the lets do it phrase appeared after that. But you have to mind the fact that where were a lot of contributions from TOA that also helped begin the conflict, one would be NG putting all of my citizens living on his territory into concentration camps, another the Sechnucht (i don't think I spelled it right) incident, and of course NG's submarine thing, than there was Bjornyan betrayal, TOA backed him, etc. But once again this is the past, it has no relevance right now.

What Sehnsucht incident? The Sehnsucht is registered privately under the non-profit organization Weather Watchers and was harassed by military elements. The Sehnsucht is a civilian vessel. In fact Weather Watchers has a few at sea right now.

I iknow that silly goose. But I thought with the approval of yourself or someone else, you could rp terrosit groups and stuff even though you are not in EII. I am making a PMC, should be fun to rp in EII

I'm sorry I'm even more confused now.

What Sehnsucht incident? The Sehnsucht is registered privately under the non-profit organization Weather Watchers and was harassed by military elements. The Sehnsucht is a civilian vessel. In fact Weather Watchers has a few at sea right now.

Its a ship you used to spy on me. I don't remember much about that RP but I remember that much.

Its a ship you used to spy on me. I don't remember much about that RP but I remember that much.

That would be SIC.

I know, but I remember somehow I figured that out ICly, I think you tried to hack into my satellites or something, as I said I don't remember. Either way RDU classifies those ships as Layatrebian Navy vessels now.

Wow so the statements are in from the SL bank and this bitch has 147 trillion dollars just chilling in the bank. And to think, I started with 9 trillion in it.

I know, but I remember somehow I figured that out ICly, I think you tried to hack into my satellites or something, as I said I don't remember. Either way RDU classifies those ships as Layatrebian Navy vessels now.

I got a new one for you too, the Abaddon class, registered to the non-profit organization SETI :). There's also the Doomsday, registered another another NPO but that one isn't in Earth II because any slight catastrophe and our Earth wouldn't exist. In Earth II its just a novel idea in development by the government and not actually floating. It'll have a big thing to do with RTL.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs had reviewed our foreign relations to individual nations and is making the following changes:


The Deathbat Republic: The Empire wishes to inquire with the The Deathbat Republic about the possibility of an embassy exchange program.


The Mediterranean Republic would very much like to pursue diplomatic relations with Layarteb, and is in favor of an embassy exchange.

I got a new one for you too, the Abaddon class, registered to the non-profit organization SETI :). There's also the Doomsday, registered another another NPO but that one isn't in Earth II because any slight catastrophe and our Earth wouldn't exist. In Earth II its just a novel idea in development by the government and not actually floating. It'll have a big thing to do with RTL.

Thats all fine and good, you sneaky bastard :)

Okay Pushka, here's the deal. If you give me Yakutia and Chukotka, I will give you the Siberian territories I have on mainland Russia. Deal? I know that it's a bit more than you offered, but if your people and government really is that upset to getting their "motherland" back, they shouldn't have any problems saying bye-bye to some frozen wasteland they have no connection to.

If you accept, I shall renounce any claim I may have to the territories I give you now and for all eternity, meaning that you don't have to worry about me wanting it back.

This is a one-time offer. If you don't accept it now, it will not be repeated.

The Mediterranean Republic would very much like to pursue diplomatic relations with Layarteb, and is in favor of an embassy exchange.

Whoopppsssss

G'day, it's 6:30 PM here on Christmas Eve, enjoy the evening all and here's to a happy holiday (at my aunt's house right now. ;) )

G'day, it's 6:30 PM here on Christmas Eve, enjoy the evening all and here's to a happy holiday (at my aunt's house right now. ;) )

It's almost 2.50 AM on Christmas Day here and I have gotten a few very nice presents and one that I have NFC what to do with. Good night all, and merry Christmas!

Okay Pushka, here's the deal. If you give me Yakutia and Chukotka, I will give you the Siberian territories I have on mainland Russia. Deal? I know that it's a bit more than you offered, but if your people and government really is that upset to getting their "motherland" back, they shouldn't have any problems saying bye-bye to some frozen wasteland they have no connection to.

If you accept, I shall renounce any claim I may have to the territories I give you now and for all eternity, meaning that you don't have to worry about me wanting it back.

This is a one-time offer. If you don't accept it now, it will not be repeated.

Will you settle for Yakutia and Magadan? I ask this cause if I give you Chukotka I won't have an easy way to get from one half of my country to the other by sea. Also Magadan might be better for you since it got all those warm water ports, its perfect if you want to increase your presence in the Pacific.

Will you settle for Yakutia and Magadan? I ask this cause if I give you Chukotka I won't have an easy way to get from one half of my country to the other by sea. Also Magadan might be better for you since it got all those warm water ports, its perfect if you want to increase your presence in the Pacific.
I accept your counter-offer Pushka. You transfering the territories now?

Confirmed

So to get it straight.

I'm transfering Evenkia, Taymyria, Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk and Ust-Orda to Pushka in return for Yakutia and Magadan.

Возращение на Родину

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12130600#post12130600

Attention Cotland.

Whoopppsssss

hehe

no biggie man.

Still extortion.

There have been plenty of instances where your allies have practiced extortionism, and you didn't say a thing about it.

Thank you.





What "mutual defense pact" doesn't have a stipulation that an attack on one is an attack on all? Without said clause it would defeat the purpose of a "mutual defense pact." It doesn't say how though and I must say that I did not wage war against you nor have I against Nero. I only asked TOA support once and that was during Yelm. Other wars I've waged, I've done so mostly on my own (often I'll get some SOF help here and there but that's minor stuff). In fact, I think I've helped out O.K. in his wars more than TOA nations, though I might just be tired on that one. So if one TOA nation attacks the whole alliance gets blamed? What sense does that make? I tell you what, if one Pantheaan commits murder I'm going to indict the entire country on murder charges for guilty by association. Congratulations on having one of the most ridiculous statements ever.





Not really, cause except for their citizenship pantheans aren't bound by a contract stating that they act as one. Also no Panthean..except for the minister of Foreign Relations...Borat Sagdiyev...can travel to Layerteb

I concede though..i maybe wrong with TOA but so far i don't see how TOA has benefited anyone else besides themselves

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Ah, what Resident Evil and consuming large ammounts of Caffine does. ;)

I got bored and decided to spicen up my role in the world. :D Hope you enjoy it as much as i did writing it. ;)

Kreynoria;12130678']There have been plenty of instances where your allies have practiced extortionism, and you didn't say a thing about it.

I very much doubt the extortionists would ever call themselves extortionists - their victims have different tales, but as it is always, the offenders are quick to deny themselves as such a character. If it weren't true, then the justice system around the world would be radically different...

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happy that you guys stopped trading threats and insults and trades some parcels of land instead. Makes my day!

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwanza, a Jolly Good New Year, a very Happy Eid, and a happy any other special day for all of you during this season!

Happy Holidays to Earth II.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs had reviewed our foreign relations to individual nations and is making the following changes:

Koryan: The Empire would like to inquire with The Militarist Democracy of Korya about an embassy exchange program.


Koryan would be happy to further it's relations with the Empire of Layarteb. The Republic would be proud to exchange embassies with such a world power and would also like to inquire into the possibility of a free trade agreement. Although your nation appears to be having slight unrest, our analysists still see the Empire as a stable and promising competitor on the world market.

Kreynoria;12130678']There have been plenty of instances where your allies have practiced extortionism, and you didn't say a thing about it.

I'm sure of it.

Not really, cause except for their citizenship pantheans aren't bound by a contract stating that they act as one. Also no Panthean..except for the minister of Foreign Relations...Borat Sagdiyev...can travel to Layerteb

I concede though..i maybe wrong with TOA but so far i don't see how TOA has benefited anyone else besides themselves

Talking about real life mutual defense pacts. The whole very nature of if one is attacked, we're all attacked (see NATO, Warsaw Pact).

Happy Holidays to Earth II.



Koryan would be happy to further it's relations with the Empire of Layarteb. The Republic would be proud to exchange embassies with such a world power and would also like to inquire into the possibility of a free trade agreement. Although your nation appears to be having slight unrest, our analysists still see the Empire as a stable and promising competitor on the world market.

At the moment we wish to only endeavor to embassy exchange but with due trial and time we shall hopefully upgrade that to a FTA.

Merry Christmas peoples of Earth II!!!


Some little tidbits of information

1st Air Force = 13,000 jets and over 25,000 pilots [Province of Layarteb defense]
2nd Air Force = 1,270 jets and over 3,000 pilots [Foreign Deployment]
3rd Air Force = 494 jets and over 1,600 pilots [Icelandic Republic defense]
4th Air Force = 1,178 jets and over 2,700 pilots [Irish Republic defense]
5th Air Force = 1,132 jets and over 2,900 pilots [Atlantic Republic defense]
6th Air Force = 2,312 jets and over 6,900 pilots [Western Republic defense]
7th Air Force = 8,044 jets and over 19,300 pilots [Province of South Eastern Virginia defense]
8th Air Force = 3,126 jets and over 8,100 pilots [Province of Ynoga defense]
9th Air Force = 3,066 jets and over 8,200 pilots [Province of Raef defense]
10th Air Force = 3,626 jets and over 9,100 pilots [Province of Dnalkrad defense]

I hope that little bit of information makes your day like it does mine.

Have fun!

That's a total of 37,000 aircraft, $4,044,332,000,000 in cost, and 86,158 pilots.

http://respublica.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/could_be.jpg

How Santa does his rounds in Iraq and Afghanistan.







(Thanks to No Endorse @ lineartinc for finding the pic)

very

holy christwagons.

holy christwagons.

one was not enough...

I'm sure of it.

Is that sarcasm? I can't tell in a text message.

Kreynoria;12131698']Is that sarcasm? I can't tell in a text message.

Nope.

Alrighty Lay, let me explain. Opulent is Private Military Corporation. Not a country or anything but a group of people that can be hired like mercenaries or for personal and buisness security etc. I knew people could rp in Earth II as terrorist and other private groups with your blessing so I was hoping I could rp as this Private Military Corporation, not a nation since Terronian is gone.

Alrighty Lay, let me explain. Opulent is Private Military Corporation. Not a country or anything but a group of people that can be hired like mercenaries or for personal and buisness security etc. I knew people could rp in Earth II as terrorist and other private groups with your blessing so I was hoping I could rp as this Private Military Corporation, not a nation since Terronian is gone.

Oooo yeah...it can but where would it be based?

Did I start a terrorist trend? :p

I'm going to begin to post in the War Against Drugs (Or w/e its named), I posted my stances on the other forums so go look at that.

What did you all get for christmas...
Me

Battlefield 2142
Gears of War (already own it though :( )
Two Hoodies
Sweater
a 25 dollar gift card for Best Buy
A camofauge wallet from my sister in NY
a 100 dollar check
National Insecurity - The onion newspaper 2006
10 bucks
50 dollars

I got my dad Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter for PC cause he is still playing the old Ghost Recon.

On top of that all i drank a whole lot of Wine and devoured the Cheesecake and shrimp

You drank cheesecake? How does that happen?

Merry Christmas peoples of Earth II!!!


Some little tidbits of information

1st Air Force = 13,000 jets and over 25,000 pilots [Province of Layarteb defense]
2nd Air Force = 1,270 jets and over 3,000 pilots [Foreign Deployment]
3rd Air Force = 494 jets and over 1,600 pilots [Icelandic Republic defense]
4th Air Force = 1,178 jets and over 2,700 pilots [Irish Republic defense]
5th Air Force = 1,132 jets and over 2,900 pilots [Atlantic Republic defense]
6th Air Force = 2,312 jets and over 6,900 pilots [Western Republic defense]
7th Air Force = 8,044 jets and over 19,300 pilots [Province of South Eastern Virginia defense]
8th Air Force = 3,126 jets and over 8,100 pilots [Province of Ynoga defense]
9th through 10th to come...

I hope that little bit of information makes your day like it does mine.

Have fun!


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