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Hawdawg
17-04-2007, 04:34
Still, 250 trillion USD, banks pay you interest for using your money, dude if there was fucking 250 trillion USD on the market out there a USD would be worth less then one sheet of toilet paper, its called inflation. Your money doesn't just magically grow in a bank, your money has to be used by the bank for the amount of your money to increase.

Don't complain to me about the interest paid, Saint Lazare is the person you need to air your grievance about what his bank pays on funds deposited (I am sure he will tell you its his bank so he can in effect set rates at what he wants). Nationstates as a whole operates on fund balances that do not mimic the Real world. Most of us (including you) utilize budgets that are extremely out of touch with reality. It was proposed once before, to a very unenthusiastic crowd, to operate in RL budgetary numbers. It went over like a lead balloon.

Banks loan the money you loan them to whomever at whatever rates they chose to set. I don't give a rip what the bank does with my money, as long as I profit from the transaction. When the Bank first came online several of us jumped in to earn a compound interest on our money. I had a large fund balance from two seperate storefronts that I used to maintain. I placed all those funds in the account to grow. I understand how interest works, I have a degree in Business. All the funds in the Bank can be verified, you just finished boasting about trillions of dollars in arms sales, which you haven't documented. What I have noticed about your funds is you are spending trillions with Mac in his storefront. Did you hook up with him and start selling his items to generate these sales?


-Hawdawg
Pushka
17-04-2007, 04:41
Yeah I am spending trillions in Mac's storefront, my military budget (according NS Tracker) is 31,986,406,741,390.43 trillion rubles and 1 ruble = 1.5426 USD, plus the sales from AD-142, plus the sales from Cherep IFV. In any case, as I said, its bullshit but I'll go with it, I don't care soon enough millions of your men will be dead and I will be out of EII for good, I will fight a conventional war against the OA and Im not kidding myself I am simply outnumbered, I will loose, but I'll put up enough of a fight to be remembered.
Pushka
17-04-2007, 04:54
Anyways Haw, somehow almost overnight you made a transition from being the voice of reason for TOA to being just about the whiniest asshole in that alliance quickly surpassing even Cot the number one runner for quite some time now. Congrats, but why?
Hawdawg
17-04-2007, 04:57
BTW Pushka do you have an updated link on your armed forces? I am reworking mine myself and will update soon, but if you had a new link I would love to check it out.

-Hawdawg
Pushka
17-04-2007, 05:02
As of now my military is the link in my sig, I was working on updating my navy (reducing the number of ships) but jolt fucked me over and never edited it, after that I got pissed off at it and didn't try ever since. I'll have to work in the Khan missile carriers and the helis Mac has sold me into it, actually thx for reminding me now that shit is about to start blowing over I think I'll do that tomorrow.


Let me guess, you gonna bitch and moan about how much money Im spending while your buddy Cot has 250 billion USD in the bank that magically appeared there and thats completely fine, really its like you mutated from a reasonable guy to another TOA puppet, sad.
Hawdawg
17-04-2007, 05:11
Anyways Haw, somehow almost overnight you made a transition from being the voice of reason for TOA to being just about the whiniest asshole in that alliance quickly surpassing even Cot the number one runner for quite some time now. Congrats, but why?

Call it a clash of personalities, your headstrong about certain things as am I. You feel you are in the right most of the time, I feel I am in the right most of the time, when I have the information to back it up. I sometimes think our language barrier sometimes gets things out of sorts between you and I. You misinterpret something as I do from time to time. I can point out things from various positions that we both misunderstood what points we were each driving at. I am a reasonable person when reasoned with. Remember I have fought battles with many foe, several of which I did not hold there lands in my cofers to plunder. I simply let them rule themselves, without my interference.

-Hawdawg
Hawdawg
17-04-2007, 05:19
As of now my military is the link in my sig, I was working on updating my navy (reducing the number of ships) but jolt fucked me over and never edited it, after that I got pissed off at it and didn't try ever since. I'll have to work in the Khan missile carriers and the helis Mac has sold me into it, actually thx for reminding me now that shit is about to start blowing over I think I'll do that tomorrow.


Let me guess, you gonna bitch and moan about how much money Im spending while your buddy Cot has 250 billion USD in the bank that magically appeared there and thats completely fine, really its like you mutated from a reasonable guy to another TOA puppet, sad.

I am a stat guy Pushka, nothing more. I try and keep my stuff as up to date as possible myself. I too, have suffered the wrath of Jolt dropping a bomb on a mega-military update post. I remember once I lost seven pages of stats when Jolt decided to take a dumb on me. I recently fixed my ground forces information but I am having the devil getting the navy realigned, along with the air force. You see, I lost a Hard Drive with all my original data on it so I to start over from scratch and rebuild from what people I knew had stored away. I lost all my original ship drawings, tanks, etc. along with my stats. It really sucked. Hopefully since life has slowed down a bit, I can get those two elements fixed and up to date, I hate having stuff listed that is out of sorts. I also keep a running tally on operations costs of the different branches so I know exactly how much I have for R&D and new purchases. I am not going to bitch about what you are spending, heck we all are investing in our defense with the funds we have available, its why we play this game. We all want to have the best for our people money can buy.

-Hawdawg
Pushka
17-04-2007, 05:26
Well atleast we don't disagree on that point, I'll take another stab at modifying my military once I get some sleep, had about 4 hours last night.
Layarteb
17-04-2007, 05:49
AUCTION FOR KHABAROVSK KRAI!

There's no minimum starting bid, and no reserve. You have twenty four hours before the bidding ends; at this time tomorrow the auction will be closed and the highest bidder will own a lovely piece of real estate.

END ANNOUNCEMENT

BTW, Lay, you still need to confirm the transfer of Wake Island, even though you're the guy who'll be altering the maps.

I'll be starting a new thread shortly about the expansion of the UER and the changes it shall bring, so look out for it.

That would make sense right? :) Yes I shalt confirm Wake.

No claiming for the entire region here. Just individual nations.

Yes please claim as an individual nation.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 12:18
$7.5 trillion huh? Okay. $15 trillion.

Just FYI I have according to NS Tracker K$155 trillion to play with. Still gonna use what SL says I have in the bank though.

A simple lay-out of your accounts:

Realm of Cotland Savings 10 $73,569,703,447,860.70 COT
Realm of Cotland CD 3 $173,157,965,617,370.00 COTCD


Total Accrued:

$246,727,669,065,230.00
Cotland
17-04-2007, 12:39
ATTN Pushka / GSO!


Operation Rising Sun (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12553007&postcount=153)


Please read this before you begin anything.
Marimaia
17-04-2007, 12:57
Now that was a *psych* to remember.....

Very well executed, guys. I grant you a short round of applause.




Right, there's just over six hours until the auction for Khabarovsk ends, with Cotland currently as the high bidder at $15 trillion :eek: . Since we are now talking rather large sums of money, the winning bidder will be required to present proof that he has the amount (bank statement, NSTracker, something like that)....and no, the United Eastasian Republic does not take cheques, even oversized novelty cardboard ones.
Hawdawg
17-04-2007, 13:12
Now that was a *psych* to remember.....

Very well executed, guys. I grant you a short round of applause.




Right, there's just over six hours until the auction for Khabarovsk ends, with Cotland currently as the high bidder at $15 trillion :eek: . Since we are now talking rather large sums of money, the winning bidder will be required to present proof that he has the amount (bank statement, NSTracker, something like that)....and no, the United Eastasian Republic does not take cheques, even oversized novelty cardboard ones.

LOL
Cotland
17-04-2007, 14:06
Now that was a *psych* to remember.....

Very well executed, guys. I grant you a short round of applause.




Right, there's just over six hours until the auction for Khabarovsk ends, with Cotland currently as the high bidder at $15 trillion :eek: . Since we are now talking rather large sums of money, the winning bidder will be required to present proof that he has the amount (bank statement, NSTracker, something like that)....and no, the United Eastasian Republic does not take cheques, even oversized novelty cardboard ones.

I believe I have provided you with both.... :)
Pushka
17-04-2007, 17:49
17 trillion USD Mari, check NS Tracker I can afford it.
Pushka
17-04-2007, 18:01
Shit if Cot gets that land and Rising Sun is a demobilization so I have no justification to take it from him by force...bah, k I'll wait a couple of weeks till tensions pick up again once NG gets deleted.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 18:07
£20 trillion.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 18:08
Yes, Rising Sun is de-mobilization. Now you see why I told you that you shouldn't assume things Pushka?
Pushka
17-04-2007, 18:27
In a RL world, if TOA did not wish to initiate any hostilities they would inform the nation their exercises are directed against so it doesn't react accordingly to the mobilization of such a scale.

22 trillion USD
Cotland
17-04-2007, 18:30
My bid for £20 trillion still stands...

According to this (http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi), the current exchange rate per 17.4.2007 is 1 GBP = 2.00488 USD. Easily calculated, I've offered ~$40 trillion...
Pushka
17-04-2007, 18:50
41 trillion USD.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 18:51
New offer.

$100 trillion (from the Bank of St Lazare), the islands of Christmas Island and Norfolk Island, and unlimited trading rights with all territories in the Realm along with a free trade agreement (if we don't already have one).
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:03
My offer of 100 trillion, the islands and the trading thing, plus I'll throw in a complementary lollipop for the Premier. :)
Marimaia
17-04-2007, 19:04
I started the auction at 7:11pm my time, so you have about seven minutes left......
Pushka
17-04-2007, 19:05
Ah screw it, I'll let the war solve everything.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:10
As I said on AIM before you blocked me (at least I assume you blocked me, cause you didn't like it when I said the truth), it'll only be war if you make it war. Still can't believe it. He's willing to go to war over some land that wasn't his to start with. And he's calling me the aggressor!
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:10
As I said on AIM before you blocked me (at least I assume you blocked me, cause you didn't like it when I said the truth), it'll only be war if you make it war. Still can't believe it. He's willing to go to war over some land that wasn't his to start with. And he's calling me the aggressor!

Just in case, my offer is raised to $125 trillion.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:14
$125 trillion and the other stuff if you want them.
Marimaia
17-04-2007, 19:16
AUCTION END!

So the new owner of Khabarovsk Krai is:

Cotland

with the winning bid of:

.....just to clear it up, is it $125 trillion on its own, or $125 trillion with the other bits from your previous bid? It doesn't really matter that much, but I just want to make sure.
Pushka
17-04-2007, 19:16
Hmm my connection to AIM failed, restarting my laptop didn't work, oh well.
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:17
Ah. You're still using this as an OOC motivation to go to war IC huh? Sore loser I guess...
Cotland
17-04-2007, 19:18
What is it with Jolt and timewarps?
Pushka
17-04-2007, 19:18
As I said on AIM before you blocked me (at least I assume you blocked me, cause you didn't like it when I said the truth), it'll only be war if you make it war. Still can't believe it. He's willing to go to war over some land that wasn't his to start with. And he's calling me the aggressor!

Just in case, my offer is raised to $125 trillion.

Truth? Haha, oh boy, Cot, seriously get your head out of your ass. Im not going to war over that land, but the fact that land is in your possession means that I have to act fast or be destroyed by TOA in the near future, I'll help Nero much more then I would have otherwise.
Pushka
17-04-2007, 19:20
and just like that AIM works again.
Marimaia
17-04-2007, 19:22
The $125 trillion is fine for me; I'm pretty sure we already have an FTA anyway.

I noticed the timewarp too, kinda weird.....
Pushka
17-04-2007, 19:23
Ah. You're still using this as an OOC motivation to go to war IC huh? Sore loser I guess...

Not really, simply from a logical perspective. Very important land that used to belong to my ally is now in the possession of my enemy.

Bah, lost connection to AIM again, wtf is going on.

Aight AIM works again yeah time warps come and go.
Spizania
17-04-2007, 20:21
isnt a $125 trillion a significant proportion of your GDP? Especially with only 870 million people in your nation?
Pushka
17-04-2007, 20:37
He is taking it out of the 250 trillion that magically appeared in his Saint Lazare bank account, I attempted to open an account myself just now, we'll see there that goes.
Spizania
17-04-2007, 20:42
If the bank makes money above inflation, its got to have that money invested somewhere, and since the nations of Earth II have even less trust of each other than IRL, wel be like they do and not use electronic transfer, especially if the governments are all as paranoid as IRL. Thus wel be using the same moving Gold from vault to vault thing they do IRL.
Big Problem is that the bank most likely doesnt have enough bullion for Cot to withdraw, atleast not while maintaining normal transactions, this could mean that we see a loss of confidence and everyone scrambling to get there money out, forcing the closure of the bank and the skyrocketing of bullion prices, causing the depreciation of the remaining assets at the time of closure, which could lead to a massive economic collapse
Layarteb
17-04-2007, 23:48
In so far as the bank is confirmed nothing has "magically" appeared and it has all been worked out by Saint Lazare before hand so why not give the man a chance to explain himself, if he sees fit, before you criticize him?
Layarteb
18-04-2007, 00:22
Now that was a *psych* to remember.....

Very well executed, guys. I grant you a short round of applause.

Thank you but we couldn't have done it without the GSO. First I'd like to thank God, Jesus, all the wonderful people down at NBC and Paramount studios for making this happen, mi hermana, mi loca, etc. [sorry was practicing my emmy/grammy/every fucking award speech given by everyone in the us regardless of what language they speak].

:)

AUCTION END!

So the new owner of Khabarovsk Krai is:

Cotland

with the winning bid of:

.....just to clear it up, is it $125 trillion on its own, or $125 trillion with the other bits from your previous bid? It doesn't really matter that much, but I just want to make sure.

Holy crap! Mari if you want to bleed away some of that money Texas Hold 'em awaits :).
Layarteb
18-04-2007, 01:15
Well I told Brink & Cot so I might as well tell everyone. With respect to RTL and the revolution growing:

The will be a revolution and the Emperor's castle will be stormed.
Pushka
18-04-2007, 02:29
ATTENTION



Alright guys, to protect myself better Im gonna try to keep all my land in the same region. As such my land Yemen and Mexico are up for trade, I would like to exchange it for land in Russia or Asia or Canada that is connected to my Russian lands by water or land. Spiz you can buy back Baker for say 2 trillion USD, now that Pys is gone I have no need for it. Anyone can offer a trade for a portion of those lands or for the whole thing, just TG me, and you can be a TOA member for all I care if you wanna trade let me know.
Pushka
18-04-2007, 02:36
Juan de Nova Island, Mauritius, Mayotte South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands go to the newbs, Lay take note.
Soviet Trasa
18-04-2007, 05:22
Hehehe, ^_^ *Sits down with Popcorn and Coca-Cola*
Spizania
18-04-2007, 11:44
ATTENTION



Alright guys, to protect myself better Im gonna try to keep all my land in the same region. As such my land Yemen and Mexico are up for trade, I would like to exchange it for land in Russia or Asia or Canada that is connected to my Russian lands by water or land. Spiz you can buy back Baker for say 2 trillion USD, now that Pys is gone I have no need for it. Anyone can offer a trade for a portion of those lands or for the whole thing, just TG me, and you can be a TOA member for all I care if you wanna trade let me know.

I have no need for it now you blew it apart, especially not enough use to justify two trillion dollars, i dont have bottomless treasuries, unlike the rest of you
Pushka
18-04-2007, 18:27
Suit yourself, Lay give it to the newbs
United States of Brink
18-04-2007, 22:16
If possible I'd like to purchase the two African Islands Mauritius and Mayotte.
Pushka
18-04-2007, 22:33
Ah screw it, it ain't gonna help the noobs any, how much are you willing to offer?
Layarteb
18-04-2007, 23:51
1. It's your land really :).

2. What condition is Baker Island in?
Pushka
18-04-2007, 23:59
I did post that I was working towards fixing it so it should be fine.
Hawdawg
19-04-2007, 13:34
HNN News
Stockholm, Sweden

A source inside the Commerce department recently confirmed an investment in the Infastructure of Ottoman Khaif Indonesia of some 200 Billion USD. The government is expected to develop roads and other basic needs throughout the central poorer regions of the major islands and the Western portion of Papau New Guinea. Our unnamed source also mentioned that top Engineers from the famed Kellogg Brown and Root Offices in Houston were sent to Indonesia to offer suggestions and assist in the overall design of the infastructure needs for the country. It has also been suggested KBR may be opening an office in Jakarta in the near future.


Prime Minister in the Caribbean

Prime Minister Gordon Wells recently attended a summit of the leadership of the October Alliance. Our PM reporter on the staff declared that Wells and the other leaders of the OA had a spirited and eventful meeting hosted by the leader of Layarteb. After the meeting Wells has returned to Houston to visit various locations in Texas. The Alamo and the Rangers museum are on his list of travel stops this week.
United States of Brink
19-04-2007, 13:37
Name your price and I'll say yes.
Pushka
19-04-2007, 19:15
Meh, 1 trillion USD for all of em. K?
Cotland
19-04-2007, 20:18
Cottish News Network


Khabarovsk Krai secured

KHABAROVSK (NTB): Earlier today, the Cottish peacekeeping forces finally reached Khabarovsk, the regional capital of the former Japanese territory, and relieved the UER peacekeeping forces holding the city without incident. Over the past few days, elements of the 4th Army under generaloberst Davidsen has moved into the territory and re-established a structured form of law and order in the territory after the Japanese collapse earlier this month. Anarchy and looting has not been a problem, an anonymous spokesperson for the Defense Ministry says, mainly because the Japanese fall didn't seriously affect the social structures and common law and order. The Japanese forces that stand in the territory are in the process of being repatriated back to the Japanese islands, and the temporary Cottish military government in Khabarovsk say that free and open elections will be held within the end of next month.


Severnaya Zelmya returned to Russia

OSLO (NTB): In a press conference earlier today at the Foreign Ministry, Prime Minister Rothsky surprised the press corps with the announcement that the Severnaya Zemlya islands, which are located in the Arctic Ocean off the Russian Federation's Taymyria territory, will be transfered to Russian control within the end of the month along with an undisclosed sum of money. This transfer of land is seen as a softening up of the tensions between the Realm and the Russian Federation after the recent events concerning the major military exercise Operation Sunfall, which anonymous sources claim brought the Realm and the Russian Federation as close to war as it has ever been. In return for the islands, which has been used as a testing ground for munitions and equipment, the Realm shall recieve the Mexican Pacific territory of Oaxaca, which is currently under Russian control. Recently, the Russian Federation has taken steps to free itself of its overseas territories.


New contract for Laksevag Naval Shipyards

STAVANGER (NTB): After some troubling times, the shipyard is guaranteed work well past the next decade when it yesterday was granted the contract to construct the new Demon class of destroyers for the Royal Cottish Navy. A total of two hundred of these state of the art, conventionally powered destroyers are to be constructed in the next twelve years, and is worth RK270 billion.
Pushka
19-04-2007, 21:36
Cot, transfer confirmed Oaxaca for Severnaya Zemlya and some change.
Cotland
19-04-2007, 21:44
Cot, transfer confirmed Oaxaca for Severnaya Zemlya and some change.

Da.
Cotland
19-04-2007, 21:55
Official Press Release
Defense Ministry, Realm of Cotland

The Realm of Cotland hereby announce that as a result of the Defense Restructuring Plan of 2007, all the 1,500 LGM.37/A Hades Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) that are currently deployed by the Royal Cottish Air Force's Strategic Missile Group shall be decommissioned from service. This marks the end of the Cottish ICBMs, and the decommissioning of a total of (15,000) W-18/A thermonuclear warheads. However, the Realm shall maintain its current stockpile of (720) Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles (IRBMs) and (528) Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs), which has been deemed sufficient to maintain a credible and more survivable self-defense capability.
[NS]Kreynoria
20-04-2007, 02:36
In so far as the bank is confirmed nothing has "magically" appeared and it has all been worked out by Saint Lazare before hand so why not give the man a chance to explain himself, if he sees fit, before you criticize him?


I think that Saint Lazare's bank was a good idea in principal, but has now become a tool of abuse...

The bank's power to generate hundreds of trillions in mere RL weeks basically has destroyed the concept of money and economics in Earth II. Basically, anyone with a good bank account can spend however much they want, tapping into their hundreds of trillions/quadrillions dollar bank account. There really are no more limits to Earth II economies.

I think that the bank system needs to be re-calculated so that these tremendous accounts will not crop up. It's destroying realism and fun by drowning E2 in so much money that people will casually throw around hundreds of trillions in minor transactions.

I think that the bank account of all users of the bank should have its funds decreased by a factor of one hundred. Now, this will require some sacrifice for those of you who have saved into the quadrillions, but its pretty much necessary; the bank has become a massive wank.
RomeW
20-04-2007, 03:04
Now that I think of it, I think those amounts should be displayed OOCly...ICly it can be hidden but OOC those amounts should be known. For all we know, everyone could have infinite money and we're stuck.
Layarteb
20-04-2007, 03:08
Kreynoria;12561593']I think that Saint Lazare's bank was a good idea in principal, but has now become a tool of abuse...

The bank's power to generate hundreds of trillions in mere RL weeks basically has destroyed the concept of money and economics in Earth II. Basically, anyone with a good bank account can spend however much they want, tapping into their hundreds of trillions/quadrillions dollar bank account. There really are no more limits to Earth II economies.

I think that the bank system needs to be re-calculated so that these tremendous accounts will not crop up. It's destroying realism and fun by drowning E2 in so much money that people will casually throw around hundreds of trillions in minor transactions.

I think that the bank account of all users of the bank should have its funds decreased by a factor of one hundred. Now, this will require some sacrifice for those of you who have saved into the quadrillions, but its pretty much necessary; the bank has become a massive wank.

A simple decrease is too linear and won't solve any of the aforementioned problems. We do have a benefit though in that each and every transaction has been recorded (starting amounts, withdrawals, deposits, et cetera). Perhaps a simle redo of the formula and interest rates and then a retroactive changing of the accounts? This is only an opinion though, my knowledge of economics and money as such is very limited so I wouldn't be the proper individual to comment too much.

Now that I think of it, I think those amounts should be displayed OOCly...ICly it can be hidden but OOC those amounts should be known. For all we know, everyone could have infinite money and we're stuck.

As far as I am aware, they are.
United States of Brink
20-04-2007, 03:10
How much for just the two?
RomeW
20-04-2007, 03:18
As far as I am aware, they are.

Where?
Layarteb
20-04-2007, 03:22
Where?

ICly secret that is.
RomeW
20-04-2007, 03:38
ICly secret that is.

Yeah, but like how we have an OOC list for defence forces, there should also be an OOC list for finances so we know no one's making things up.
Layarteb
20-04-2007, 03:38
Yeah, but like how we have an OOC list for defence forces, there should also be an OOC list for finances so we know no one's making things up.

Oooooo yeah...hmm yeah we should...

FYI everyone (i've significantly increased my travel quotas)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11761753&postcount=26
Layarteb
20-04-2007, 03:50
OOC: In the glorious style of Cotland...

Layartebian News Network

Baker Island Secured, Relations with Russian Federation Dawn

LAYARTEB CITY, April 19 (LNN) -- In a surprise announcement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Empire of Layarteb has annexed Baker Island, south of Hirgizstanian Howland Island. The island, formerly Spizani territory was seized by the Russian Federation following a brutal attack and onslaught that saw a near Second World War as tensions soared. With an area of 40.54 mi², Baker Island is a military fortress but has sustained significant damage following the Russian onslaught. The Ministry of Defense is quoted as saying "Baker Island is a great Pacific base but it's going to require a lot of work. This is a long term project but it shall provide a proper link between Hawaii and Nauru."

In addition, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has also announced an opening of relations with the Russian Federation with the opening of an embassy in Voronej and Layarteb City, respectively.

I.E. Push has sold me Baker Island for an undisclosed sum of money and we've begun relations. Also Spiz, what's Baker Island like so I know what to properly RP there?
RomeW
20-04-2007, 03:50
Oooooo yeah...hmm yeah we should...

FYI everyone (i've significantly increased my travel quotas)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11761753&postcount=26

I have mine listed...at least in terms of my general NS nation. I think I may need to raise that figure somehow...
Hawdawg
20-04-2007, 03:58
Kreynoria;12561593']I think that Saint Lazare's bank was a good idea in principal, but has now become a tool of abuse...

The bank's power to generate hundreds of trillions in mere RL weeks basically has destroyed the concept of money and economics in Earth II. Basically, anyone with a good bank account can spend however much they want, tapping into their hundreds of trillions/quadrillions dollar bank account. There really are no more limits to Earth II economies.

I think that the bank system needs to be re-calculated so that these tremendous accounts will not crop up. It's destroying realism and fun by drowning E2 in so much money that people will casually throw around hundreds of trillions in minor transactions.

I think that the bank account of all users of the bank should have its funds decreased by a factor of one hundred. Now, this will require some sacrifice for those of you who have saved into the quadrillions, but its pretty much necessary; the bank has become a massive wank.

Keep in mind that most traditional storefronts witin NS operate on a time system somewhere around 1NS day=1 RL year. With this in mind, a monthly update would translate to 30 years of positive monetary growth. Heck I have been playing a small investment game online with my students and the account I started in January already has yielded a 27% ROI. The secondary account I started last year with minimal stock investments has shown me a 40% ROI in less than 365 days. The devil in the details about the bank is the actual timeline RL vs. NS the bank uses.

I will send him a TG to join in this discussion.


-Hawdawg
RomeW
20-04-2007, 04:45
Keep in mind that most traditional storefronts witin NS operate on a time system somewhere around 1NS day=1 RL year. With this in mind, a monthly update would translate to 30 years of positive monetary growth. Heck I have been playing a small investment game online with my students and the account I started in January already has yielded a 27% ROI. The secondary account I started last year with minimal stock investments has shown me a 40% ROI in less than 365 days. The devil in the details about the bank is the actual timeline RL vs. NS the bank uses.

I will send him a TG to join in this discussion.


-Hawdawg

I think we should at least OOCly know the number. It's the least we can all do.
Pushka
20-04-2007, 05:23
Lay, its Voronej.
[NS]Kreynoria
20-04-2007, 13:09
Okay guys, I think that my workload is down low enough that I can start RPing again. Unfortunately, my hard drive had to be wiped because of virus problems, so I've lost my military and other information on my nation. I'm going to be spending the next week recreating it and am also going camping this weekend.
Hawdawg
20-04-2007, 13:10
I think we should at least OOCly know the number. It's the least we can all do.

I don't have a problem with sharing that, in fact I believe I did so several pages back. I TG'ed SL he hasn't been active for a bit though.


-Hawdawg
Pushka
20-04-2007, 17:18
A major shitstorm is brewing on the horizon. Only three periods left for each of my classes this semester, that means the exams are coming and that means Im gonna have to start working my ass off studying Calculus and Chemistry (the other two English and Global Connections: Religion aren't that hard) so in the next couple of weeks Im probably gonna go on vacation mode, not yet, but soon.
Layarteb
20-04-2007, 22:58
Lay, its Voronej.

Fixed. When you can please confirm Baker.
Pushka
21-04-2007, 02:24
Baker confirmed.
Pushka
21-04-2007, 08:11
Операция Братство [Earth II]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524669
Hawdawg
21-04-2007, 12:11
Операция Братство [Earth II]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524669

I really like those pics in the thread Pushka. How did you make them?


-Hawdawg
Pushka
21-04-2007, 18:56
Screenshots from STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl.

Guys, still a lot of land left for me to trade away, anyone interested? Whats left is basically all of my Mexico minus Oaxaca and all of my Yemen.
Layarteb
21-04-2007, 19:05
Ut oh! BG. Delaney did a bad, bad thing.
Spizania
21-04-2007, 19:27
Puskha, il buy your slice of Yemen, but i have no land to trade with unfortunately.
Pantheaa
22-04-2007, 03:07
The bank of SL is sort of confusing. Working in a bank myself for awhile they always gave the highest interest rates to the accounts that people would mostly like, those in the middle tier. Don't know why their is a 10% for the highest amount which is the one fewer and fewer people will invest in.

Also the bank should have a E money market account, something where the IR changes depending on how much you invest into it (a tier interest rate) that way it encourages people to invest more with your bank

And you only offer a 12 month CD and its just a fix rate no matter what you put in. Thats not good cause if the CD stays in for the entire year they can get the full interest rate...however if you had a 9 month or 6 month CD and made it a higher rate. You can still get some great investment but not have to pay out the full amount, cause Annual Perecentage Yield of a CD is only attanable if the CD has been invested for the entire year. Of course now i told you this so that bank secret is lost

Hmmm the Bank of Pantheaa may have to compete

Pantheaa has got to be world famous for something other then its Beer and Cheese
Pantheaa
22-04-2007, 03:09
Actually i thought of something

I know what Pantheaa is going to be world reknown for and your all going to want to invest

You'll see when i post it later today
Layarteb
22-04-2007, 03:46
Actually i thought of something

I know what Pantheaa is going to be world reknown for and your all going to want to invest

You'll see when i post it later today

Is it Hot Dogs? Imagine a world with an endless supply of hot dogs? You can have a hot dog whenever you want. 20 hot dogs would equal roughly a nickle, depending on the price of the Yen. Hey, if you were a hot dog and you were starving, would you eat yourself? I know I would, first I'd smother myself with mustard and relish, I'd be so delicious. If you were a hot dog, and you were starving, would you eat yourself? It isn't a simple question even a baby could. If you say no I'll bite your ear off.

http://www.bolt.com/motaboy8120/video/SNL__Harry_Carry__Hotdog/2431445
Saint Lazare
22-04-2007, 04:33
Just an FYI - finals are approaching very very very very very very soon, and I don't think that I will be as active for the next four weeks at least [not that I have been the most spectacularly active person for the past four weeks or so...]

I'll try to get some stuff this weekend, because I have some time to do stuff, but I can't guarantee it much after that. I'll say it if I can't get on, because I don't want you guys to linger on too long.

That said, I've received Hawdawg's TG, and I've reason to believe that there was a discussion on the BOS.

There is a lively discussion about your bank in Earth II. Could you kindly join in, it is reference to the amounts we have amassed and the formulas you have used to come up with our balances. Apparently some folks believe we are wanking with our balances, the exact opposite idea of why the bank was created on your behalf.

-Hawdawg


I would just like to say this for the moment:

The Bank of Saint Lazare is simply a conception that I've made, as an alternative to achieving military hegemony, because since the get-go, I knew that Monaco would never become a world power. Since that time, I've acquired a large swath of territory in India [which is set to be subject to a series of masterful events once I get the time to do it]. If the interest rates are too high for you, tant pis.

The fact is that my interest rates are high for two reasons:

- To compete with the extinct Bjornoya Stock Exchange [basically give people better incentives to invest in my bank]; of course, the BSE went out for different reasons...

- To insure in moderation a guarantee from extensive military intervention [if I handle your money, you're less likely to want to hurt me because you'll earn better earnings by having me around than to extinguish me].

Since its inception, I have accrued a massive wealth in funds [most of them from Layarteb], which still remains to people for use. The fact that more people are investing money in my bank than in other endeavor is an indication that it works. I've just checked my BOS thread, and Pushka has applied for a new account, joining the newest craze in EII economics. The interest rates are indubitably high by any standard, but as far as in my economic intentions [to have more people investing than people selling], it has been successful.

The bank of SL is sort of confusing. Working in a bank myself for awhile they always gave the highest interest rates to the accounts that people would mostly like, those in the middle tier. Don't know why their is a 10% for the highest amount which is the one fewer and fewer people will invest in.

Also the bank should have a E money market account, something where the IR changes depending on how much you invest into it (a tier interest rate) that way it encourages people to invest more with your bank

To address this, I've already done that. And the truth is that the majority of my clients are in the top tier. The majority of my clients invest in either a Level 10 Savings Account or a Level 3 CD, with only 5 other accounts out of the total number reflecting accounts less than Level 10 or CD Level 3.

As far as the actual economics that run this, I haven't the greatest idea, but for me, it's working, because more people are investing in the bank. The only reason why people aren't investing any more is because I doubt that a lot of people are aware that it exists [or at least were aware].

And the fact that my interests offer people the best rates at the highest rate makes more sense to me, because as a banker, I want people to invest more money into my bank. In fact, given the vast volume of finance that currently fills the bank, I'm considering adding a few levels to accommodate some of my routine customers and those people with a lot of money :D.

And you only offer a 12 month CD and its just a fix rate no matter what you put in. Thats not good cause if the CD stays in for the entire year they can get the full interest rate...however if you had a 9 month or 6 month CD and made it a higher rate. You can still get some great investment but not have to pay out the full amount, cause Annual Perecentage Yield of a CD is only attanable if the CD has been invested for the entire year. Of course now i told you this so that bank secret is lost.

Actually, I have three different CDs that pay based on the amount that you invest. I've already considered making CDs that vary based on their time invested, but for me, that's breaking with excess, because that will mean more work for me [unless, I work out a 24-month or 36-month scheme] - I do not want to have to cut up my bank years unless I really need to do so.

Hmmm the Bank of Pantheaa may have to compete

Pantheaa has got to be world famous for something other then its Beer and Cheese

I would encourage you to do that! At least it's not another war where people get killed, but you see, we have to do something that gets economic competition into the gears, instead of plain military might. Besides that, it's always helpful to have some insight for other people too, so thanks!



As to what Hawdawg was talking about my calculations and stuff, it's mostly interest equations.

For simple annual rates:

A=I+(I*R)

where A = final amount /// I = original amount /// R = rate

For monthly rates:

A=Σ12In+(In*R)

where A = final amount /// Σ12 = the summation of the very equation for a series of 12 repetitions /// In = the initial amount for each value "n" of each 12 repetition /// R = rate

It looks complicated, but it's very easy. Those are the basic equations that I use, which of course I have abbreviated while using Excel to monitor this stuff, but otherwise, it's all the same.



BTW, while I'm waiting for Jolt to fix itself again:

Hawdawg: I'm not certain if I've confirmed your $1tril withdrawal for something mebobbers, but it is confirmed and whatever finances you used them for are approved. I forgot to make a post in the Bank thread, but in addition to all of these things, I would love it if all new relevant investments and withdrawals be done in the Bank Thread, so people can have a record of it, unless it's a secret account, in which case, keep doing TG's - because I like to have secret clients :D.

If you have any other problems with my Bank and I've set it up for use, please let me know and I'll see if anything can or need fixing. Unfortunately, I'm not reducing the rates [I don't know if that's a complaint, but anyone with a sense on the current market conditions in the world will have some sense that 10% monthly interest is beyond absurdity], but that's the principal reason why I made the bank. If you want to have a bank that charges a lower interest rate, be my guest.
Soviet Bloc
22-04-2007, 06:19
The only bad thing about the BSL [well, not bad, just bad for you] is that most banks earn their income off of the interest received on loans given out, or investments, etc. And, in turn, some of that goes out in the form of interest paid on CDs or savings. I'm sure the BSL also has domestic operations [like, say, a 'home-town bank'] but I don't think it'd earn enough to even pay off a fraction of the interest you're paying out. I mean, no other nation has taken out a loan, I believe, and even domestic operations and investments couldn't pay off the huge amounts that are being paid out in interest.

So, all of that interest being paid out and accumulated by other nations is either bankrupting the bank or, if the government insures/owns the operation, directly from your budget.

Either you'd have to have a worldwide investment network that makes massive investments, which I still can't see occuring, or also be simultaneously loaning money... Since your loan rates are fairly high [well, in relation to 'real life' loans, but, for one, I don't see anyone wanting to get a $100 trillion loan which is beyond most budgets and being forced to pay $50 trillion for it in addition to the principal] I don't think anyone would loan from the BSL. Similarly, your savings interest rate is also really high, and should really only be around 1% or 2% monthly compounded, or actually, less than 1%.

I mean, its fine to offer high interest rates to induce people to open an account, but, in order to make money, the loan interest rates are usually higher and thus, your loan rates are very high and thus not very attractive except for the most desperate of people. In most cases, a nation could very well loan more than they're going to need from another party, deposit the rest in the BSL, and walk away with a hefty profit. The only loser in that equation is the BSL. Of course, I don't think anyone on EII would do that, let alone borrow money [so some leeway on this could be done, but not to the level of having double digit savings account and CD interest rates].

Otherwise, I think a good international bank, or better yet, several of them, is a good idea, but you'll need to tweak your numbers a bit for it to work out better.
Hawdawg
22-04-2007, 13:05
Hawdawg: I'm not certain if I've confirmed your $1tril withdrawal for something mebobbers, but it is confirmed and whatever finances you used them for are approved. I forgot to make a post in the Bank thread, but in addition to all of these things, I would love it if all new relevant investments and withdrawals be done in the Bank Thread, so people can have a record of it, unless it's a secret account, in which case, keep doing TG's - because I like to have secret clients :D.



Not a problem, I can confirm my actions in the main thread.


-Hawdawg
Hawdawg
22-04-2007, 13:05
Hawdawg: I'm not certain if I've confirmed your $1tril withdrawal for something mebobbers, but it is confirmed and whatever finances you used them for are approved. I forgot to make a post in the Bank thread, but in addition to all of these things, I would love it if all new relevant investments and withdrawals be done in the Bank Thread, so people can have a record of it, unless it's a secret account, in which case, keep doing TG's - because I like to have secret clients :D.



Not a problem, I can confirm my actions in the main thread.


-Hawdawg
Cotland
22-04-2007, 15:42
A New Beginning (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524754)

The peaceful take-over and development thread for Oaxaca, Mexico.
Sparta Dominion
22-04-2007, 18:27
I'm back.
Hirgizstan
22-04-2007, 18:30
Hirgizstan Is Officially The Least Liberal Nation On All Of Nationstates- 89,068th! Woo-yeah!
Cotland
22-04-2007, 19:30
I'm back.

:: checks claims list ::

No you're not...
Spizania
22-04-2007, 23:14
Layarteb, sorry for the slow response, the island that remains will be a central core with various equipment and command infrastructures, radio masts and stuff, with supporting structures and a naval basing in the artificial structure around it, the whole thing will have taken enormous damage, and sections in the north west corner may be breaking off due to massive shear and tension forces on the remaining support columns. Most of the tethers to the seabed in that area have been sheared off and massive structural collapse, resulting in perhaps a third of the islands mass shearing off and floating away could result.
And the only engineers with the right expertise to repair that sort of thing are either dead or back in the Confederacy. Puskha could probably patch it up enough to stop that happening on the timescale of days, but in the end theres massive amounts of work required.

Basically the surface will look like a concrete and steel version of stalingrad, badly damaged buildings of all sorts with burned out vehicles and equipment liberally scattered around, we may have recovered the dead but the damage to the rest was extreme
Layarteb
23-04-2007, 00:57
Yeah I don't think we could get men there fast enough to slow it down either and I'd say that we'll just have to accept that 1/3 of the island ceases to exists due to the bombardment.
United States of Brink
23-04-2007, 03:46
I'll be in Florida this week.
Expect Updates on my RP's come my return.
Pantheaa
23-04-2007, 07:37
Friends

WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDANCE ON OIL!

Im not a fan of George W Bush, but you have to agree with that statement. Why pay so much for oil when you can simply use corn or electric energy to supply you with energy

Thats why The Kingdom of Pantheaa is proud to announce the thing we are going to be WORLD REKNOWN for. The beginning of the Economic imperalism...

THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL INDUSTRY!

Serji Kerensky of the Kerensky industires has announced that he starting a car company in which all cars are being fueled either by electricity or Ethanol. All investors who want to invest please do so in the RP.

More is to come including the windmill and solor power industries. The cars presented in the RP or just a starting lineup more is to come later

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524819
Pushka
23-04-2007, 09:00
Hmm...alright, well 90% of my electricity already comes from nuclear power and biofuel but sure....congrats.

On a different topic I hate the life of a working man, just got off work at 3:30 EST, got home, going to bed, going to wake up in about six hours (more like four) and go to work again, then class, then another class, then finding a place to live during summer issue to deal with. Listen to Uncle Vanya kids, don't work, move to Canada and get paid for making babies.
Cotland
23-04-2007, 12:08
Friends

WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDANCE ON OIL!

Im not a fan of George W Bush, but you have to agree with that statement. Why pay so much for oil when you can simply use corn or electric energy to supply you with energy

Thats why The Kingdom of Pantheaa is proud to announce the thing we are going to be WORLD REKNOWN for. The beginning of the Economic imperalism...

THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL INDUSTRY!

Serji Kerensky of the Kerensky industires has announced that he starting a car company in which all cars are being fueled either by electricity or Ethanol. All investors who want to invest please do so in the RP.

More is to come including the windmill and solor power industries. The cars presented in the RP or just a starting lineup more is to come later

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524819

Join the club. The vast majority of the Realm's cars (95 - 99 %) already run on E85 or Ethanol. Has been for the past decade. Good idea though.
Hawdawg
23-04-2007, 13:02
Listen to Uncle Vanya kids, don't work, move to Canada and get paid for making babies.

Same thing in Texas Pushka with an added twist, they are illegal yet use all of our services. Hell the Mexican government even gives them a map marked with routes to take to avoid the border patrol. I was standing in line yesterday at Wal-Mart (they have pretty much shut down everyone else) and a woman who didn't speak a lick of english lugging four kids in a shopping cart whips out her Lone-Star card (fancy disguise for food stamps) to pay for all the contents of her basket. As she left she loaded her things into a vehicle that was newer than the one I drive. Makes me sick that I bust my ass to make a living and these people show up and become leaches on our society.

-Hawdawg
Hirgizstan
23-04-2007, 14:48
Similar in Ireland at the moment Haw, bloody immigrants begging in the street have more expensive clothes than I do.

On another note- Pantheaa, in E2 the worlds largest deposits of oil (and some sizeable gas and coal deposits) are controlled by myself and Ottoman Khaif, thus ensuring a sustainable and reliable supply (although, in my case, only to those I have FTA's with). Whereas in RL a bunch of crazy suicidal terrorists and warlords control the oil. In E2 there is no Hugo Chavez or whatever Prince is sitting getting fat on his throne in Riyadh. There are some rogue states in E2, but they don't control the oil.
Spizania
23-04-2007, 18:02
OOC: Not ceases to exist lay, simply floats off, probably in one peice too, and now i get my peice of the action.
I have oil reserves in Yemen, Oman and Antarctica, but they arent up with you guys, but ofcourse, im regarded to be a "rogue" state because noone ever approaches me for diplomatic contact.......

CSS Broadsword, eighty nautical miles from Baker Island

The submarine approached the section of baker island, around ten square miles in size, which had broken off of the larger structure thanks to Puskha's enormous bombardment, over the course of the last few days it had floated away, out into international waters, where it now waited for one decent Pacific storm to finish to the job and break it into individual components. But that was not the way it was going to be.

The submarine surfaced in the lee of the titanic mass of metal and aerogel, and deployed its ships boat from a recessed hold in the bow of the ship, just aft of the six forward torpedo tubes. The boat began to make trips between the island and the submarine, carrying first ten men of the Confederate Marine Corps detachment of the Broadsword to the structure, then groups of ten from the ships company, armed with weapons from the small arms locker, and finally the ship's sergeant and corporal at arms, the captain and another sailer, bearing a collosal confederate naval service jack.
They hiked up the side of the slowly listing structure to the highest remaining point, which was the top of a maintainance tower for a non existance radio mast, and planted the flag using a magnetic base.

The Confederacy had returned to base on baker island, after a fashion anyway. Already a flotilla of surface vessels and fast engineering vessels was on its way, they would repair the remains of this sectoin of the island, and tow it to its new tethering location.... Where that would be was classified. Anyones guess was as good as anyone elses.
Layarteb
24-04-2007, 02:43
Friends

WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDANCE ON OIL!

Im not a fan of George W Bush, but you have to agree with that statement. Why pay so much for oil when you can simply use corn or electric energy to supply you with energy

Thats why The Kingdom of Pantheaa is proud to announce the thing we are going to be WORLD REKNOWN for. The beginning of the Economic imperalism...

THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL INDUSTRY!

Serji Kerensky of the Kerensky industires has announced that he starting a car company in which all cars are being fueled either by electricity or Ethanol. All investors who want to invest please do so in the RP.

More is to come including the windmill and solor power industries. The cars presented in the RP or just a starting lineup more is to come later

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524819

Congrats!

Hmm...alright, well 90% of my electricity already comes from nuclear power and biofuel but sure....congrats.

On a different topic I hate the life of a working man, just got off work at 3:30 EST, got home, going to bed, going to wake up in about six hours (more like four) and go to work again, then class, then another class, then finding a place to live during summer issue to deal with. Listen to Uncle Vanya kids, don't work, move to Canada and get paid for making babies.

Yeah it definitely isn't 90% for me but the majority of my domestic power is nuclear too, it's so efficient, cheap, and safe. it's also VERY clean :). [except the waste of course and we deal with that]

Join the club. The vast majority of the Realm's cars (95 - 99 %) already run on E85 or Ethanol. Has been for the past decade. Good idea though.

Same here.

OOC: Not ceases to exist lay, simply floats off, probably in one peice too, and now i get my peice of the action.
I have oil reserves in Yemen, Oman and Antarctica, but they arent up with you guys, but ofcourse, im regarded to be a "rogue" state because noone ever approaches me for diplomatic contact.......

CSS Broadsword, eighty nautical miles from Baker Island

The submarine approached the section of baker island, around ten square miles in size, which had broken off of the larger structure thanks to Puskha's enormous bombardment, over the course of the last few days it had floated away, out into international waters, where it now waited for one decent Pacific storm to finish to the job and break it into individual components. But that was not the way it was going to be.

The submarine surfaced in the lee of the titanic mass of metal and aerogel, and deployed its ships boat from a recessed hold in the bow of the ship, just aft of the six forward torpedo tubes. The boat began to make trips between the island and the submarine, carrying first ten men of the Confederate Marine Corps detachment of the Broadsword to the structure, then groups of ten from the ships company, armed with weapons from the small arms locker, and finally the ship's sergeant and corporal at arms, the captain and another sailer, bearing a collosal confederate naval service jack.
They hiked up the side of the slowly listing structure to the highest remaining point, which was the top of a maintainance tower for a non existance radio mast, and planted the flag using a magnetic base.

The Confederacy had returned to base on baker island, after a fashion anyway. Already a flotilla of surface vessels and fast engineering vessels was on its way, they would repair the remains of this sectoin of the island, and tow it to its new tethering location.... Where that would be was classified. Anyones guess was as good as anyone elses.

So ???
Pantheaa
24-04-2007, 13:42
Similar in Ireland at the moment Haw, bloody immigrants begging in the street have more expensive clothes than I do.

On another note- Pantheaa, in E2 the worlds largest deposits of oil (and some sizeable gas and coal deposits) are controlled by myself and Ottoman Khaif, thus ensuring a sustainable and reliable supply (although, in my case, only to those I have FTA's with). Whereas in RL a bunch of crazy suicidal terrorists and warlords control the oil. In E2 there is no Hugo Chavez or whatever Prince is sitting getting fat on his throne in Riyadh. There are some rogue states in E2, but they don't control the oil.

And what is the price per barrel. 60? 70? dollars a barrel...why pay that when you can get cheaper fuel from Pantheaa, and Ethanol still needs petro to run so its not like its killing your business. Not to mention how many more decades are those oil reserves going to last...might as well start conserving now instead of later
Pantheaa
24-04-2007, 13:45
Join the club. The vast majority of the Realm's cars (95 - 99 %) already run on E85 or Ethanol. Has been for the past decade. Good idea though.

Yeah the key word is "in the Realm. Panthea is looking to market to the global community
Hirgizstan
24-04-2007, 14:31
Hirgizstanian Oil is $9 per barrel. The highest it has been recently was $25 due to the whole GSO V. TOA thing, but consumer prices stayed fairly flat.
Perhaps I also didn't mention that, by law, all Hirgizstanian automobiles have to be Flex-Fuel capable.
Etanol, per barrel, is $15, slightly more expensive to the consumer but still cheap.
And since I have more agricultural land and a bigger fuel industry I reckon my Etanol is cheaper than yours and in much better supply. I'm not trying to put you off or anything, just saying is all.
Nerotika
24-04-2007, 18:36
Sorry I dissappeared for awhile there, but I had quite a bit of stuff to get done so ya know. Anyway now I can continue what I was originially setting out to do.
Nerotika
24-04-2007, 19:14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524958

The Blood of Mother Russia

Attention to Cotland
Hirgizstan
24-04-2007, 21:45
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524958

The Blood of Mother Russia

Attention to Cotland

...idiot.
Cotland
24-04-2007, 22:02
Civilians attacked by USR in their own homes!


http://media.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2006/jul/chechnya_rebuilds/apartments200.jpg


KOSTROMA (NTB): Just a few minutes ago, the United Soviet Republics launched an unprovoked attack against the Realm of Cotland, targetting exclusively civilian targets!

The casualty counts are not known at this time, but they are expected to be enormous, as many of the USR missiles struck appartment buildings occupied with civilians, destroying them.

While there hasn't been an official response from the Government yet, an anonymous government official said that he and his colleagues were "appaled at the level of brutality the godless terrorists have shown against the poor civilians of Kostroma."

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/70/300px-705159_grozny300.jpg

One building that was completely destroyed was an orphanage on Rothsky Street, with the bodies of dead children littering in the streets. According to one of the first police officers on the scene, "[the sight of the dead children] is heartbreaking and untolerable. What has these innocent babies done to deserve this kind of treatment from our neighbors?"

The Government has issued full mobilization orders for the Bjornoyan Protectorate, and all military personnel are ordered to return to their units immediately. All civilians are recommended to stay well away from Kostroma for the time being, as the Government cannot guarantee their safety.

We will return with more as the situation develops.
Hawdawg
24-04-2007, 22:45
Cotland, the Hawdawg ECRF is available to utilize. Both Airmobile Brigades and Lt. Cavalry Regiments. I haven't moved them from the area since they were deployed, if you need them they can get involved.


-Hawdawg
Ottoman Khaif
24-04-2007, 23:01
Bah most of the cars in my nation run on hydo cell or hybids for the most the part or natural gas to a lesser degree.
Layarteb
25-04-2007, 02:58
Just a little FYI. I'll be in Norfolk, VA from Thursday to Monday so I'll be on a temporary vacation.
Saint Lazare
25-04-2007, 04:34
Civilians attacked by USR in their own homes!


http://media.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2006/jul/chechnya_rebuilds/apartments200.jpg


KOSTROMA (NTB): Just a few minutes ago, the United Soviet Republics launched an unprovoked attack against the Realm of Cotland, targetting exclusively civilian targets!

The casualty counts are not known at this time, but they are expected to be enormous, as many of the USR missiles struck appartment buildings occupied with civilians, destroying them.

While there hasn't been an official response from the Government yet, an anonymous government official said that he and his colleagues were "appaled at the level of brutality the godless terrorists have shown against the poor civilians of Kostroma."

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/70/300px-705159_grozny300.jpg

One building that was completely destroyed was an orphanage on Rothsky Street, with the bodies of dead children littering in the streets. According to one of the first police officers on the scene, "[the sight of the dead children] is heartbreaking and untolerable. What has these innocent babies done to deserve this kind of treatment from our neighbors?"

The Government has issued full mobilization orders for the Bjornoyan Protectorate, and all military personnel are ordered to return to their units immediately. All civilians are recommended to stay well away from Kostroma for the time being, as the Government cannot guarantee their safety.

We will return with more as the situation develops.

The Grand Duchy stands by its ally the Realm of Cotland in assistance against these travesties.

[ooc: so I thought I had posted my post on how my attention was being distracted by school so much and how finals are coming up in two weeks... but I guess Jolt ate it up. On a positive note, I've finished my French paper and I'll have some time to mingle here]
Pushka
25-04-2007, 04:49
Official Statement from the Russian Federation

Although we do not condone this attack it seems that calling it unprovoked is a display of hypocrisy. Only a few months ago the Realm of Cotland forcibly took the territory in question from the USR without any provocation for such actions and the Cottish treatment of USR civilians wasn't humane to put it lightly. In any event although we will not directly engage Cottish troops and troops of their allies we will move our troops within USR borders with or without consent from the USR government. Stability must be kept, further annexation of USR land by the Realm is out of question. If our troops are engaged they will respond accordingly by returning fire. We call upon both parties to seize the bloodshed and attempt to resolve this diplomatically. That is all.

Igor Stepanov
President of Russian Federation

---------------------------------
Sixty eight thousand troops of the 2nd Gvardia began to move towards the USR border their orders were simple spread across the country and do not engage unless fired upon. It was the only unit segregated from the main force by the Russian military command to carry out GSO peacekeeping missions. Next to the Russian flag on the all the vehicles waved the flag of the GSO, all soldiers had GSO symbol on their patches, the shield, the sword, the globe and the white bird with an olive branch, they were some of the best men the Federation had to offer. In the meanwhile the whole nation was mobilizing, although troops were not yet placed on the Cottish border of Yakutia in an event of war they'd be able to make it there and across in a single march, although the Russian determination was to keep the whole conflict localized in the USR territories if the Cots attacked from the east the Russian army was well prepared to answer.
Pantheaa
25-04-2007, 14:56
Official Statement from the Panthean Kingdom

To the Rogue nation of Cotland and to all it may concern-

Although we don't condone attacks on civilians. The Realm of Cotland only has themselves to blame for such a tragdy. The blood of innocents were due to the fact that Cotland in the past few years has pursued a unilateral, imperialistic, bullish foreign policy that has left millions of innocents dead. This including Pantheans, USR citizens, and whoever else the Realm decides to kill. No nation-state on the face of planet can trust a rogue nation like Cotland. It does what it wants when it wants. It has recently decided to wage war in Russia with no justification. Simply just greed for its former land which it gave away freely and now wants it back. How can we trust a nation that can't even make up its mine on what it wants?????

The Kingdom of Panthaa stands by its USR allies. If Cotland or TOA move troops into USR. We shall attack. Please gentlemen lets avoid war. Don't do anything that may provoke our new military might. Our army will stand in reserves and see what transpires.

OOC- RIP Boris Yeltsin
Pushka
25-04-2007, 21:34
Panth you're sounding like Tony Blair to my Bush, lol. In any case, huray Boris Yeltsin is finally gone now Russia can forget about his raging alcoholism guiding our country.
Hawdawg
25-04-2007, 22:12
Nerotika or Pushka can we have a link to an up to date map of the Oblast USR forces are attacking? I can't seem to find anything that is worth a crap to look at.

Thanks,

-Hawdawg
Pushka
26-04-2007, 02:12
Well took me three seconds with google:

http://map.rin.ru/maps_e/Kostroma.gif
Pantheaa
26-04-2007, 02:23
Panth you're sounding like Tony Blair to my Bush, lol. In any case, huray Boris Yeltsin is finally gone now Russia can forget about his raging alcoholism guiding our country.

I don't know why so many people hate Boris on just about every board i go to. Gorbachev loves to potray himself as the innocent victim who the evil Yeltsin kicked him out of office and destroyed his precious country. But really Gorbachev? It was your perestroika and Glasnot that allowed such nationalism to take place. You kicked yourself out of office...Yeltsin just saw a political opprunity and took it. Can't blame a man for doing that

Hey i would be a drunk too if i lived in a Communist dictatorship. Shortages, High Inflation, nuclear plants exploding...yeah i would be a drunk too
Layarteb
26-04-2007, 03:10
Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Mari/OK [Post 19469]: Land transferred.
Mari/Push [Post 19469]: Land transferred.
Mari [Post 19486]: Thread added.
Pushka [Post 19496]: Thread added.
Mari/Cotland [Post 19530]: Khabarovsk Krai transferred.
Pushka [Post 19550]: Mauritius and Mayotte are those going to USB or to the newbs?
Pushka/Cot [Post 19557]: Land transferred.
Pushka [Post 19577]: Baker transferred.
Pushka [Post 19578]: Thread added.
Cotland [Post 19590]: Thread added.






Parthini: Please post your "E2" population and your nation name [if you wish it to be different than your username].
Saint Lazare / RomeW: In post 19,469 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12547738&postcount=19469) India (Arunachal Pradesh, Bihar, Manipur, Nagaland, Uttaranchal) and Nepal were offered to you guys. Any idea who is taking what?




Last Update: Page 1,296
Current Update: Page 1,308
Hawdawg
26-04-2007, 03:14
Well took me three seconds with google:

http://map.rin.ru/maps_e/Kostroma.gif

Ah yes but google only works well if you spell the oblast correctly. I was adding a few extra o's into the oblast's name. Hence why I had trouble finding it. Sometimes spell check works against us. Thanks for the link. I figured if anyone would know you would. ;)

-Hawdawg
Layarteb
26-04-2007, 03:58
in·fer·nal –adjective

1. hellish; fiendish; diabolical: an infernal plot.
2. extremely troublesome, annoying, etc.; outrageous: an infernal nuisance.
3. of, inhabiting, or befitting hell.
4. Classical Mythology. of or pertaining to the underworld.


Synonyms 2. devilish, cursed, monstrous.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/General/infernal.jpg
RomeW
26-04-2007, 05:13
Saint Lazare / RomeW: In post 19,469 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12547738&postcount=19469) India (Arunachal Pradesh, Bihar, Manipur, Nagaland, Uttaranchal) and Nepal were offered to you guys. Any idea who is taking what?

I said I'd take it (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12547930&postcount=19472).
Pushka
26-04-2007, 09:49
I don't know why so many people hate Boris on just about every board i go to. Gorbachev loves to potray himself as the innocent victim who the evil Yeltsin kicked him out of office and destroyed his precious country. But really Gorbachev? It was your perestroika and Glasnot that allowed such nationalism to take place. You kicked yourself out of office...Yeltsin just saw a political opprunity and took it. Can't blame a man for doing that

Hey i would be a drunk too if i lived in a Communist dictatorship. Shortages, High Inflation, nuclear plants exploding...yeah i would be a drunk too

Well...basically Gorbachev said "START" and everyone in the gov't started stealing everything that wasn't bolted down (but then they stole the bolts and the bolted down things too) it happened so quickly that Gorbie barely had time to claim some for himself. Yeltsin and his supporters stole the most and got to power. Hey Im a drunk, but that doesn't mean that if I was a president of Russian Federation I would be drunk all the fucking time. He did so many things publically that were embarrassing and ran the country into the ground with economic collapse in 98. Russia is a very rich country natural resources, intellectual power, we got all the things that should make us filthy rich. It took communists 70 years of spending away Russia's potential and not using her true strengths before shit hit the fan economically. Yeltsin it took 7 years, quite an amazing accomplishment in the bizzaro world I am sure. Putin has his flaws but atleast he has an agenda and carries himself as a person representing one of the world's most powerful nations should.
Cotland
26-04-2007, 13:36
Well...basically Gorbachev said "START" and everyone in the gov't started stealing everything that wasn't bolted down (but then they stole the bolts and the bolted down things too) it happened so quickly that Gorbie barely had time to claim some for himself. Yeltsin and his supporters stole the most and got to power. Hey Im a drunk, but that doesn't mean that if I was a president of Russian Federation I would be drunk all the fucking time. He did so many things publically that were embarrassing and ran the country into the ground with economic collapse in 98. Russia is a very rich country natural resources, intellectual power, we got all the things that should make us filthy rich. It took communists 70 years of spending away Russia's potential and not using her true strengths before shit hit the fan economically. Yeltsin it took 7 years, quite an amazing accomplishment in the bizzaro world I am sure. Putin has his flaws but atleast he has an agenda and carries himself as a person representing one of the world's most powerful nations should.
Plus Putin use the FSB. The commies used the KGB/GRU, but Yeltsin didn't really use his secret police. So the morale is that he who uses his secret police manages to maintain the state.... That's some scary shit!
Cotland
26-04-2007, 13:44
Lay, a few things.

Firstly, I don't own Cyprus anymore. OK does. The Asia map needs to reflect that.

Secondly, those three territories I took from Nero a while back still hasn't been added to me on the Russia map. It's those three between my western territories and Panth's areas.

Thirdly, in the Asia (Eastern Detail) map, the territory I gave Spiz like six months ago is still listed as belonging to me. It shouldn't.

Thanks.
Layarteb
26-04-2007, 13:46
I said I'd take it (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12547930&postcount=19472).

Yes you did but SL never said anything and it was offered to both of ya :).

Lay, a few things.

Firstly, I don't own Cyprus anymore. OK does. The Asia map needs to reflect that.

Secondly, those three territories I took from Nero a while back still hasn't been added to me on the Russia map. It's those three between my western territories and Panth's areas.

Thirdly, in the Asia (Eastern Detail) map, the territory I gave Spiz like six months ago is still listed as belonging to me. It shouldn't.

Thanks.

Alright what are those 3 territories by name & what territory did you give Spiz?

:: all to be updated when I return ::
Saint Lazare
26-04-2007, 14:30
Yes you did but SL never said anything and it was offered to both of ya :).

To be fair, I wasn't here when the territories were offered, so by default, I missed the cue. But on the other hand, I would appreciate it if I could have one single territory: Uttaranchal. It's trapped between me and UER, and while I wouldn't object to Rome taking it - de facto at least - I think that it's more parsimonious to keep things together. Rome can have the rest without any contest.

I hope that this is agreeable.
Nerotika
26-04-2007, 18:27
I want, for future reference, to let it be known that the war I am waging against cotland is specifically for those three territories. If he wages a war back on me after I have taken what I want then he is responsible for any damaged that come to his territory afterward if he chooses to continue the war.

anyway, I only wanted this war for what was originally mine. If memory serves me right, cotland took my land and I did not wage a responsive war in return because of the GSO's creation.
Pushka
26-04-2007, 21:13
Plus Putin use the FSB. The commies used the KGB/GRU, but Yeltsin didn't really use his secret police. So the morale is that he who uses his secret police manages to maintain the state.... That's some scary shit!

GRU is the army intelligence/counter intelligence, they are still around. FSB really isn't the reason why Putin maintains power, infact in the past few months a lot of his ex-supporters started criticizing him for the crimes FSB allegedly committed under his orders, such as Litvienko killing and the killings of those reporters. Also the main opposition party Just (as in Justice) Russia has been gaining support in the past few months because of all the controversy over those murders. Putin kept the country together because he had an agenda, to make money, in modern Russian gov't there is no ideology or nationalism there is only one wish to make money for the sake of making money. To make money he started exploiting Russia's resources the right way and in turn the country got richer as well.
RomeW
26-04-2007, 22:06
To be fair, I wasn't here when the territories were offered, so by default, I missed the cue. But on the other hand, I would appreciate it if I could have one single territory: Uttaranchal. It's trapped between me and UER, and while I wouldn't object to Rome taking it - de facto at least - I think that it's more parsimonious to keep things together. Rome can have the rest without any contest.

I hope that this is agreeable.

OK, deal. You can have Uttaranchal. I'll take the rest.
Pushka
27-04-2007, 07:22
Hey Lay:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/1742/demon715.gif

Still a demon and proud of it?
Cotland
27-04-2007, 12:59
I want, for future reference, to let it be known that the war I am waging against cotland is specifically for those three territories. If he wages a war back on me after I have taken what I want then he is responsible for any damaged that come to his territory afterward if he chooses to continue the war.

anyway, I only wanted this war for what was originally mine. If memory serves me right, cotland took my land and I did not wage a responsive war in return because of the GSO's creation.
That would depend on your ability to kick me out of those lands...

If memory serves, you ceeded those lands to me as a result of the war. But whatever. Just waiting for you to post in the war thread.

Alright what are those 3 territories by name & what territory did you give Spiz?

:: all to be updated when I return ::
Yaroslavl', Ivanovo and Kostroma are those three territories I've got, and that Phillipines island, Puerto Princessa or something like that. I'm sure Spiz will correct me on this if I'm mistaken (which I think I am).
Layarteb
27-04-2007, 14:37
You know, in person, a Ticonderoga CG or an Arleigh Burke DDG or a Wasp LHD or the Enterprise CVN or Truman CVN are really MUCH friggin bigger than you'd expect. Even a Los Angeles class SSN is pretty damn big but man they sit so damn low in the water. Amazing guys...amazing!
Hirgizstan
27-04-2007, 14:51
You bring your camera?
Layarteb
27-04-2007, 15:50
Negative, not allowed but I'll have it with me for the airshow. I stole some time on my friends' laptop so I'll try to see what I can reply in terms of RPs but no promises. I also might be out of Home Depot for good so HOOAH!
Spizania
27-04-2007, 17:31
I believe the island is called Palawan Island, Peurto Princessa is just the name of the main settlement on it, which is now my capital.
Hirgizstan
27-04-2007, 18:20
What you gonna get into after Home Depot?
Layarteb
28-04-2007, 05:06
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/28/hpim0878zm7.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0878zm7.jpg)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/249/hpim0861cp2.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0861cp2.jpg)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/793/hpim0879ms2.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0879ms2.jpg)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/966/hpim0838af8.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0838af8.jpg)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8418/hpim0850kl4.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim0850kl4.jpg)

Some pictures from the U.S.S. Wisconsin BB-64 and what a big beaut she was...timing was good too, once we got to the end of the tour, they shut her down due to a fierce summer storm.

I'll put more on my website and in one of them you can see the U.S.S. San Antonio LPD-17 in the background while it's in port for repairs. We also had a pair of Sea Hawks fly overhead, very cool, got a picture of one of them.

And Megan at Southland...what a cutie :)
Hirgizstan
28-04-2007, 19:46
Anyone watching the Twins v. Tigers game? Darn good match, Lopez and Leyland just got ejected, funny as hell. Leyland kept arguing with the official after he'd done the big 'you're outta here' thing. Pretty heated stuff, Detroit fans weren't happy.
Pushka
28-04-2007, 19:50
Wow....just wow....I was so fucking wasted last night.....atleast half a gallon of vodka in about 20 minutes plus a few beers....I couldn't fucking walk back to my room lol. Anyways, that was a good night last night. Remember people alcohol is your god.
United States of Brink
29-04-2007, 17:37
back.
what i miss?
Cotland
29-04-2007, 18:17
back.
what i miss?

Op. Sunfall turned out to be a massive military mobilization exercise, Lay going on vacation, Nero invading me, and Pushka's binge...
Ottoman Khaif
29-04-2007, 18:34
Op. Sunfall turned out to be a massive military mobilization exercise, Lay going on vacation, Nero invading me, and Pushka's binge...

So yea...nothing out of the norm for E2....just your normal crazy shiz like any other day on this rp...
Layarteb
01-05-2007, 01:50
Guess who's back from vacation, back in the beautiful NYC. Man what an awe-inspiring sight it is to come northbound on the NJT and see the NYC skyline in the background just get bigger & bigger. Farm country just isn't for me I'll say that and I passed through towns that have less people in them than my whole block. US-13 is kind of depressing that way (for us city folk) but man NYC is home to me.

Pics coming soon...

Also, Push I picked up the Prima guide to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it's kind of light...
Layarteb
01-05-2007, 03:22
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (for PC) is a waste of $$$...Don't buy it...Controls are terrible, loading saved games reloads everything and spazzes out, you can't skip movies, and the patches do squat.
Pushka
01-05-2007, 06:01
Guess who's back from vacation, back in the beautiful NYC. Man what an awe-inspiring sight it is to come northbound on the NJT and see the NYC skyline in the background just get bigger & bigger. Farm country just isn't for me I'll say that and I passed through towns that have less people in them than my whole block. US-13 is kind of depressing that way (for us city folk) but man NYC is home to me.

Pics coming soon...

Also, Push I picked up the Prima guide to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it's kind of light...

I think I kinda should have waited about 6 months after STALKER came out before I bought it, by that time I should have a better system and hopefully all the million bugs in the game will be fixed. I mean I love it, but the bugs aren't making it easy. Took a quest to kill Poker a bandit in the Agronom reseach lab, I go into the underground, his marker is shown on the map but he himself isn't there! Plus I saw like 3 soldiers pop out of nowhere and the game crashes because of some bug (even tells me what kind of bug it has its own designation)....so yeah, Im still enjoying this game, the gameplay is hell of a lot of fun but the constant bugs are ruining the atmosphere. Btw.....don't read its a spoiler.....highlight the text below if interested (its white).

You are Strelok
Pushka
01-05-2007, 06:07
Also another this time action packed and lengthy post in Операция Братство should be up some time tomorrow, first time I took more then a day to type on up hehe, it'll be filled with STALKER pics.
Layarteb
01-05-2007, 23:39
Oh man what an awesome day at work (new job). I may just be a temp but it's 40 hours a week and much more than THD would pay me. Plus, plus, plus! It's less than 5 mi from my apartment :).
Pushka
02-05-2007, 05:47
Wait so where do you work now?
Nerotika
02-05-2007, 15:42
w00t, I have started my own buisiness finally (Not the traditional type of buisiness, lets just say it involves a scale and the knowledge of how many grams are in an ounce). Anyway, i've got alot of stuff to do so its hard for me to get on and get my posts on the RP done. But when I get the time I will post then, also I decided because of my off and on status im going to start an uprising to become a democratic state in order to stop this war so I dont have to keep checking it.
Spizania
02-05-2007, 16:50
Am i ever going to get a Response from Kreynoria?
Cotland
02-05-2007, 18:50
w00t, I have started my own buisiness finally (Not the traditional type of buisiness, lets just say it involves a scale and the knowledge of how many grams are in an ounce). Anyway, i've got alot of stuff to do so its hard for me to get on and get my posts on the RP done. But when I get the time I will post then, also I decided because of my off and on status im going to start an uprising to become a democratic state in order to stop this war so I dont have to keep checking it.

So in other words, you're aborting your invasion?
Nerotika
02-05-2007, 21:08
So in other words, you're aborting your invasion?

Basically im going to fight the invasion until this second revolution (Or basically civil war) gets to out of hand for the government. I have it all planned out, im going to make a civil war between the Soviet Syndicated Forces (Or the secret Army thats used as the government police) and nationalist nerotikans aided by the militias the soviet government decided to keep banded together.

I was going to have a part in the invasion where the militia leading the invasion force turned on the soviet regular army soldiers after recieving orders directly from the militia's personal HQ. What i'll end up fighting for is Kostroma only, the civil war will branch into that territory because I have troops in it already, I found that would make for an interesting story where my troops were fighting not only the cots but themselves.

Anyway, I dont know which government type i'll end up with but I decided before I started fading in and out I would make at least one last interesting story (Though my revolution story I felt wasn't as good as it could have been).
Ottoman Khaif
02-05-2007, 23:20
w00t, I have started my own buisiness finally (Not the traditional type of buisiness, lets just say it involves a scale and the knowledge of how many grams are in an ounce). Anyway, i've got alot of stuff to do so its hard for me to get on and get my posts on the RP done. But when I get the time I will post then, also I decided because of my off and on status im going to start an uprising to become a democratic state in order to stop this war so I dont have to keep checking it.

Is this busniess legal....
Nerotika
02-05-2007, 23:45
Is this busniess legal....

only if you think it is...;)
Layarteb
03-05-2007, 01:20
w00t, I have started my own buisiness finally (Not the traditional type of buisiness, lets just say it involves a scale and the knowledge of how many grams are in an ounce). Anyway, i've got alot of stuff to do so its hard for me to get on and get my posts on the RP done. But when I get the time I will post then, also I decided because of my off and on status im going to start an uprising to become a democratic state in order to stop this war so I dont have to keep checking it.

Have you filed your W-9 for that lemonade stand yet?
Layarteb
03-05-2007, 03:01
Chapter Seventeen: Ugly & Damned

December 27: The Empire begins a secret war against Faysal Abd-Al-Malik Behnam, a major warlord in Afghanistan and drug dealer who is directly linked with Layartebian cartels.
February 2, 2007: Layartebian forces assist the Eurasian Federation in seizing Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia. They wage a "secret war" against Sepah-e Pasdaran, an Islamist-terrorist group in the region. Evidence gathered from Sepah-e Pasdaran link them to the Layartebian situation. Funding for Sepah-e Pasdaran was given through Faysal Abd-Al-Malik Behnam by Totalis (Varsolan Corporation on the Falklands linked directly to Grenada), the cartels, and the RLA. Sepah-e Pasdaran trained various terrorist groups acting in the Empire of Layarteb from 2005 - 2007 including the RLA and Free Venezuelans. An unknown "major funder" is sought out.
February 15: Layartebian forces invade southern Neuvo Rican Mexico and seize Campeche, Chiapas, Quintana Roo, and Tabasaco in the "War on Drugs" and, effectively, end the drug trade in the region when the war is completed.
February 18: State governor of Venezuela is assassinated, presumably by a "domestic" terrorist group related to the RLA.
March 1: Victory is declared in southern Mexico.
March 4: Successor to the state governor vanishes mysteriously. Street violence in Caracas escalates to its highest levels since 1988. Fueled by Illuminati Ghost Warriors, street violences peaks shortly thereafter.
March 12: Faysal Abd-Al-Malik Behnam is killed. Evidence links him to Sepah-e Pasdaran.
April 1: Organized protests begin in Caracas and are brutally suppressed. In total 629 people, including 55 police officers are killed when the government stepped in to stop the protests.
April 2: Two women are killed when the State Governer of Venezuela's house is attacked by rocket fire. The governor is severely injured and is forced to withdraw from his duties.
April 5: The "Free Venezuelans" announce that they are a pro-independence group seeking for Venezuelan independence and claim responsibility for the attack of April 2. They are linked to demonstrations going back to March and are immediately assumed to be responsible for the February 18th assassination of the government.
April 8: The Imperial Layartebian Military begins to mobilize as unrest in Venezuela peaks again.
April 9: The Free Venezuelans detonate a massive car bomb inside the South Eastern Virginia government building in Caracas, leveling the building. Forty-five are killed in the attack, which occurs at 01:30 hours, local time. At 01:32 hours, local time, fighting erupts in Caracs and by 05:30 hours, local time, Venezuela is in the midst of a total revolution.
May 5: The last of the Free Venezuelans are captured, killed, or in hiding and the insurrection ends, unsuccessfully. Fatalities include 182,500 civilians, 4,528 soldiers, and 429,040 rebels. Casualties include upwards of 300,000 civilians, 12,086 soldiers, and 200,489 rebels. There are 342,493 rebels captured.
May 17: Assad al Samir, a prominent leader with Sepah-e Pasdaran is killed during a failed mission to apprehend him. He is a major player in Layartebian terrorism and acts as a middleman between Sepah-e Pasdaran and Totalis. He is also linked with the unknown "major funder" sought out by the Ministry of Justice.



Confirmed Body Count: 683,285
Unconfirmed Body Count: 683,592+


Here's the latest summary for RTL and the end of CH17. Look at the body count now as compared to, say, at the end of 2006.

Chapter Sixteen: Sehnsucht

November 23: Layarteb Airlines Flight 1890 explodes in mid-air, at 19:30 hrs [EST], 8 miles south of East Moriches, Long Island. The cause of the disaster is yet unknown but all 526 onboard are presumed dead.
November 24: Jasmine Delgado, the daughter of the Governor of the Province of Raef, is kidnapped at a market in Havana at 15:05 hrs [EST] by Luis Rendon and Javier Montenegra of the Florida Cartel. They soon meet up with Hector Pimentel, also of the Florida Cartel. Their house and car are burned and their whereabouts are unknown.
December 1: At 10:27 hrs [EST], the chief of police for the Province of Raef is asssassinated when his helicopter is shot down trying to land on the roof of the Panama City police headquarters. Six men in the helicopter and three bystanders on the street are killed.
December 11: Mysterious explosion around 22:39 hrs [EST] kills lead witness in Jasmine Delgado kidnapping and destroys two adjacent homes. Ten others are killed.
December 23: Official investigation on LA Flight 1890 concludes citing that mechanical failure brought down the aircraft due to faulty wiring in the center fuel tank, which ignited fuel vapors and caused the explosion. All 526 lives were lost, making it the dealiest, civilian air disaster in EOL history.



Confirmed Body Count: 66,540
Unconfirmed Body Count: 66,786+
Nerotika
03-05-2007, 03:57
Have you filed your W-9 for that lemonade stand yet?

Yes I did...but its was put on the wronge colored paper and filed as some road construction lol.
Pantheaa
03-05-2007, 07:27
Man Cavs are in the playoffs with James averaging 24 points a game

Browns drafted Quinn

Inidans are on a roll

Looking good for Cleveland sports finally.

What team wants to get raped by Lebron James now?

I was going to pretake in that Nero RP but too much to do during the week before exam.
Great Gaiyar
03-05-2007, 08:35
How can I join this RP?
Layarteb
04-05-2007, 01:22
Would anyone be interested in downloading RTL and reading it on your own PC as a PDF? I know a lot of you have kept up from the beginning but, let's face it, it's 30 pages so nowhere near easy to keep up with anymore.
United States of Brink
04-05-2007, 03:36
me so seepy.
Class Trip = No sleep
School = No sleep and a sleep
Six Flags Great Adventure= no sleep.
work = no sleep.
gosh darn i need a lazy day.
Cotland
04-05-2007, 13:41
Would anyone be interested in downloading RTL and reading it on your own PC as a PDF? I know a lot of you have kept up from the beginning but, let's face it, it's 30 pages so nowhere near easy to keep up with anymore.
I'd definately be interested.
me so seepy.
Class Trip = No sleep
School = No sleep and a sleep
Six Flags Great Adventure= no sleep.
work = no sleep.
gosh darn i need a lazy day.
Hehe. I know the feeling. Here's an average May day for me
07:00 AM - Gets awoken and have a cup of coffee
07:20 AM - Starts work in the new appartment (painting, ripping out stuff, helping my dad)
11:00 AM - Coffee break
11:15 AM - Continues working in appt.
13:00 PM - Goes to University to study
16:30 PM - Stops studying, goes to work
21:30 PM - Finishes at work, goes to wait for bus
22:30 PM - Gets home after a long day, eats dinner
23:00 PM - Checks e-mails, NS, et cetera
00:45 AM - Goes to bed
And that's my average day for the month of May. I may need a D13 as a result of both new appartment being redecorated and exams coming up...
How can I join this RP?
By finding some land that isn't already occupied - I think there's some in South America, but you should as Layarteb - and claim it. Once the claim is OK, it is customary to start a RP where your nation emerges and where the rest of us can join in.
Whittlesfield
04-05-2007, 15:09
Is there any land going?
Nerotika
04-05-2007, 15:23
yo, cot I editted that post, been waiting for you...
Layarteb
05-05-2007, 03:18
Today wasn't so bad

07:40 - wake up
08:30 - leave for work
08:40 - arrive at work (LOL)
09:00 - begin work
13:00 - lunch
14:00 - more wrk
16:30 - friday "party" at office [have corona]
17:00 - work
18:00 - leave work
18:11 - curse out stupid drivers on shore road
18:20 - curse out stupid drivers on pelham rd
18:30 - get to home depot
18:30 - 18:45 - flirt with appliance girlies
18:45 - do work
19:30 - finish week's worth of backworth (in 45 min)
19:35 - more flirting
20:00 - still flirting
21:00 - flirting
21:30 - clock out
21:50ish - leave THD (was bullshitting & flirting)
22:05ish - get back to my apartment
Nerotika
05-05-2007, 05:01
lol...I love my days,

7:00 am - Wake up...go to sleep
8:00 am - Wake up...go back to sleep
9:00 Am - Rush to school
2:40 pm - get out of school
3:00 pm - get home, and basically go to work
3:01 pm - Arrive at work (I.E. my couch)
3:01-12:00 pm - Work
12:00 pm - Sleep/or have myself some personal time with my work...

The only time my scheduel is diff is when I have a match on 2142, which is not that often cause my team leader doesn't want to join other leauges so were stuck in the TWL league only when we could join the CAL 8v8 season and TGL 8v8 season...but nooo, no one listens to me. lol

Today was hectic though, and Lay...your a crafty little bastard, didn't even know you were getting involved in that war, thought you were staying out. Now I have more stuff to edit =-P. Oh well, hopfully we can gain different relations once I get this rebellion/revolution/civil war thing started.
Layarteb
05-05-2007, 05:07
lol...I love my days,

7:00 am - Wake up...go to sleep
8:00 am - Wake up...go back to sleep
9:00 Am - Rush to school
2:40 pm - get out of school
3:00 pm - get home, and basically go to work
3:01 pm - Arrive at work (I.E. my couch)
3:01-12:00 pm - Work
12:00 pm - Sleep/or have myself some personal time with my work...

The only time my scheduel is diff is when I have a match on 2142, which is not that often cause my team leader doesn't want to join other leauges so were stuck in the TWL league only when we could join the CAL 8v8 season and TGL 8v8 season...but nooo, no one listens to me. lol

Today was hectic though, and Lay...your a crafty little bastard, didn't even know you were getting involved in that war, thought you were staying out. Now I have more stuff to edit =-P. Oh well, hopfully we can gain different relations once I get this rebellion/revolution/civil war thing started.

Well I was because I figured it would be over by the time I got back from vacation but I got access to a PC at my friends' house and fed my NS addiction, made a simple post, another simple one. Then I came back and the thread was still there so, wad in I must...
Nerotika
05-05-2007, 05:16
Well I was because I figured it would be over by the time I got back from vacation but I got access to a PC at my friends' house and fed my NS addiction, made a simple post, another simple one. Then I came back and the thread was still there so, wad in I must...

well, I guess but im basically going to forget about the invading forces...its going to end up like the USSR, in a war during the collapse only instead of bringing them back their going to be left for dead as I turn this entire nation into a battleground, I have like 6 factions I was going to encorporate into this.

The Syndicated Forces (Under The USR)
The Militia Forces (Under The Militia High Command)
The Nerotikan Revolutionary Army (Under an unnamed leader)
The Imperialist Rebellion (Under a man who claims to be of Nerotikan Imperial Blood, though that had died out years before)
The Northern Military Forces (Under Gen. Nikov) [Kirov, Perm, Mari El, Chuvashia, Sverdlovsk, Udmurtia, Bashkortostan]
The Southern Military Forces (Under Gen. Lucas) [Kurgan, Yyumen', Omsk, Tomsk, Kemerovo, Chelyabinsk, Tatarstan]
Layarteb
05-05-2007, 05:54
well, I guess but im basically going to forget about the invading forces...its going to end up like the USSR, in a war during the collapse only instead of bringing them back their going to be left for dead as I turn this entire nation into a battleground, I have like 6 factions I was going to encorporate into this.

The Syndicated Forces (Under The USR)
The Militia Forces (Under The Militia High Command)
The Nerotikan Revolutionary Army (Under an unnamed leader)
The Imperialist Rebellion (Under a man who claims to be of Nerotikan Imperial Blood, though that had died out years before)
The Northern Military Forces (Under Gen. Nikov) [Kirov, Perm, Mari El, Chuvashia, Sverdlovsk, Udmurtia, Bashkortostan]
The Southern Military Forces (Under Gen. Lucas) [Kurgan, Yyumen', Omsk, Tomsk, Kemerovo, Chelyabinsk, Tatarstan]

Well that sounds quite unique & interesting...I duely await...
Layarteb
05-05-2007, 05:55
Title: Infernal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525924)
Genre: Horror, Sci-Fi
Time Frame: 2009
Status: Active, Progressing
Earth II Only: No
Synopsis: Times have changed...
Pushka
05-05-2007, 06:09
Please someone tell me that Mr. 47 (as in Hitman video game) pics are still up for grabs as far as character pics go.
Pushka
07-05-2007, 00:35
Well since we're all sharing:

1:30 PM - wake up look at the clock, realize that the dining hall will close in 30 minutes and I won't be able to eat till 4:30
3:00 PM - finally getting out of bed
3:05 - Took a shower
3:30 - Called my friend
3:40 - Picking up cigs/Putting Gas in the Tank/Driving to Taco Bell
4:10 - Eating at Taco Bell
4:50 - Chilling in my friend's room looking up apartments for the summer
5:05 - Taking my roommate to Ekard's so he can get drugs (for his eh...allergies)
5:30 - Getting home, surfing the web
5:35 - Crashing into my bed
5:50 - Waking up from the nap
5:51 - 9:10 - bored.....
9:10 - getting a shower
9:30 - Going to work
10:00 pm - 3:30 am - work
3:35 am - driving home, smoking my well earned cigarette, cussing at the passers by in Russian
3:45 am - parking my car a mile away and walking to my building (better now since people are leaving for summer)
3:50 am - I enter the Moore Hall residential building
3:52 am - pick up a pepsi and a Hershey's bar from the machine downstairs
3:54 am - waiting for elevator
3:57 am - waiting for elevator
4:01 am - waiting for elevator
4:04 am - giving up and starting to walk the stairs (its fucking broken!)
4:16 am - finally getting up the 11 flights of stairs
4:19 am - Going into the study room, chilling on the couch, passing out
4:30 am - Making it to my room and crashing into bed and finally sleeping

Thats what is going to happen today....hate Sundays, love Mondays though, no work, no school, yays!
Layarteb
07-05-2007, 03:10
Allergies are awful. I've been out of commission Saturday and today.
Hawdawg
07-05-2007, 05:12
Layarteb:

I posted a modified Mexia spec sheet for you to check out in the offsite forums. Give it a look and let me know what you think.

-Hawdawg

PS Allergies suck, take plenty of Claritin-D
Cotland
07-05-2007, 13:11
Time for some spring cleaning...


Bahrain, Kangaroo Island, Christmas Island, Norfolk Island - Reserved for newbies
The part of Saudi Arabia I have - Goes to Ottoman Khaif if he wants it
The South Shetland Islands - Goes to the first ones to claim them :)
Somerset Island, Victoria Island and Prince of Wales Island - Goes to Layarteb if he wants them (if not, they remain with me)
Spizania
07-05-2007, 14:02
I claim the South Shetland Islands for the Confederacy, thread up soon
Pushka
07-05-2007, 17:45
People still got a load of land in Mexico and Yemen Im willing to trade away. Still no takers?
Pushka
07-05-2007, 20:07
A bit of a preview:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3697/32434qu3.png

Thats coming up.....

I'd like to thank myself for making this image.
Spizania
07-05-2007, 20:08
Il trade you the south shetland islands for yemen ;)
Pushka
07-05-2007, 20:11
Meh....no thx.
Pushka
07-05-2007, 20:16
me so seepy.
Class Trip = No sleep
School = No sleep and a sleep
Six Flags Great Adventure= no sleep.
work = no sleep.
gosh darn i need a lazy day.

Meh...had one of those days last Wednesday.

Study for Calc exams 7:30 pm to 1 am = no sleep
Work from 1 to 3 am because I couldn't find anyone to take my shift = no sleep
Study for Chemistry exam 3:10 am to 7 am = no sleep
Going to Calc exam at 8 after grabbing a shower and a cup of coffee from the gas station (people are WEIRD! in the morning) = no sleep

Well I took about an hour long nap then I was done with my Calc exam at 11 am but then I had to go over all the shit for Chemistry and went to that Exam at 3 pm...after that I didn't sleep for some reason, I was drowsy as fuck though.
RomeW
08-05-2007, 02:26
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12621833#post12621833

127 dead in largest transit disaster in Roman history

ROME (RFP)- 127 people died in the largest transit disaster in Roman history as the result of a tramway accident at the Porta Maggiore station. A further 783 were injured in the crash that also caused extensive damage to the rail structure and the Porta Maggiore station, with some 255 in critical condition.

The crash occured at 7:14AM local time on the morning rush hour commute into the city, with most of the casualties being on the train itself. Half an hour later, Emperor Valerius IV Maderia issued a statement from the Curia declaring the day a "national day of mourning", with the entire Rome Metro service cancelled for the day.

"We have witnessed one of the saddest events in Roman history," spoke Valerius, "but, as Romans, we know we can overcome this and become even stronger. Our fallen brethren would want it no other way."

Transit officials investigating the matter concluded that a signal error caused the crash, stating that the Rome Metro's underground wiring was too "aged" in comparison to the machinery. "We brought in state-of-the-art machinery two years ago," said Rome Metro chairman S. Publius Scalapa, "but we did not update the wires that connected them. We thus concluded that is what caused the crash."

A memorial service will be held in Rome later this week. Details will be revealed when available.
Layarteb
08-05-2007, 03:30
Layarteb:

I posted a modified Mexia spec sheet for you to check out in the offsite forums. Give it a look and let me know what you think.

-Hawdawg

PS Allergies suck, take plenty of Claritin-D

Alavert is all that works and it isn't....

Time for some spring cleaning...


Bahrain, Kangaroo Island, Christmas Island, Norfolk Island - Reserved for newbies
The part of Saudi Arabia I have - Goes to Ottoman Khaif if he wants it
The South Shetland Islands - Goes to the first ones to claim them :)
Somerset Island, Victoria Island and Prince of Wales Island - Goes to Layarteb if he wants them (if not, they remain with me)

I'm game.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12621833#post12621833

127 dead in largest transit disaster in Roman history

ROME (RFP)- 127 people died in the largest transit disaster in Roman history as the result of a tramway accident at the Porta Maggiore station. A further 783 were injured in the crash that also caused extensive damage to the rail structure and the Porta Maggiore station, with some 255 in critical condition.

The crash occured at 7:14AM local time on the morning rush hour commute into the city, with most of the casualties being on the train itself. Half an hour later, Emperor Valerius IV Maderia issued a statement from the Curia declaring the day a "national day of mourning", with the entire Rome Metro service cancelled for the day.

"We have witnessed one of the saddest events in Roman history," spoke Valerius, "but, as Romans, we know we can overcome this and become even stronger. Our fallen brethren would want it no other way."

Transit officials investigating the matter concluded that a signal error caused the crash, stating that the Rome Metro's underground wiring was too "aged" in comparison to the machinery. "We brought in state-of-the-art machinery two years ago," said Rome Metro chairman S. Publius Scalapa, "but we did not update the wires that connected them. We thus concluded that is what caused the crash."

A memorial service will be held in Rome later this week. Details will be revealed when available.

The Empire wishes to convey its condolences to the Roman people. Accidents happen all the time but it's a shame when they take such a dreadful toll on human lives.
Layarteb
08-05-2007, 03:39
Pushka has traded me South Georgia & the Sandwich Islands for an undisclosed sum of money.
Hawdawg
08-05-2007, 03:58
Official Statement Holy Republic of Hawdawg

We pray for the families and loved ones touched by this horrible tragedy. The Holy Republic offers any assistance the Roman government needs to deal with this disaster. I have ordered a national moment of silence tomorrow morning at 9am in rememberance of the Roman Citizens lost in this horrific accident.


Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Pushka
08-05-2007, 05:11
Pushka has traded me South Georgia & the Sandwich Islands for an undisclosed sum of money.

Confirmed.
Pantheaa
08-05-2007, 09:54
Statement from the Panthean Department of Foreign Affairs to the Roman Embassy

The duke sends his condolences to the families of the tragedy. The nation of Panthean is opening a charity for the children of the lost. So that they may have scholorships when they go to college
RomeW
08-05-2007, 21:47
We would like to thank the world for their continued support. It has been uplifting during this very difficult time. Any assistance offered is appreciated and accepted.

Emperor Valerius IV Maderia

****Communique to Hawdawg Prime Minister Gordon Wells****

We would like to work with your government to help improve our computerized transit system. We currently need new connection wires to attach to the machinery and we would like to work with your nation's technicians to improve our own infrastructure. Let us know what you can do.

Emperor Valerius IV Maderia

************************************************

OOC: Anyone like to comment on my crafty terrorist attack?
Ottoman Khaif
08-05-2007, 21:47
The part of Saudi Arabia I have - Goes to Ottoman Khaif if he wants it



aye I confirm this deal.
Cotland
08-05-2007, 22:16
All the land give-away confirmations confirmed from my part.


--------------------

Official Communiqué

The Realm offers its sincerest condolences to the people of Rome, and to the families of those lost. Accidents are, tragically enough, a part of life, but the loss of lives are never easy. The victims and their families are in the thoughts and prayers of the Cottish people.

[signed]
His Majesty's Government
Cotland
08-05-2007, 22:45
EGYPT, JORDAN CEEDE FROM THE REALM!

http://www.lgic.org/lebanonphotos_files/revolution/lebanon_kuwait2.jpg
Archive photograph of the demonstrations

OSLO (CTB): After a long time of secret, top-level negotiations and in a recent public vote, the Realm of Cotland has decided to ceede the territories of Egypt and Jordan to the United Federation of Eurasia with certain stipulations which has yet to be made public.

The news of the handover, which is expected to be made within the end of the year, was met with celebrations in the streets of Cairo, Alexandria, Amman, al Jafr and other cities in the two territories, as the ~132,000,000 ethnic Arabs currently residing in the territories celebrated their democracy in practice. There has recently been several cases of public disturbances in the region as ethnic Arabs has demonstrated against the Government and the policies of His Majesty's Government in Egypt and Jordan.

Prime Minister Rothsky said in the press conference where the Government made the announcement that "the will of the people must be respected." The Prime Minister declined further comments, saying only that all the information needed could be found in the official press release that was made public on the Government's websites shortly after the press conference.

It is expected that Israel, which is a predominantly ethnic Cottish population, will remain affiliated with the Realm of Cotland.

The United Federation of Eurasia has yet to make an official comment on the news.
Hawdawg
08-05-2007, 22:49
Communique to the Roman Government

I have personally contacted Engineers at the Texas Instrument's Facilities in Ft. Worth as well as the top construction company Keller, Brown and Root in Houston. Both companies have agreed to send representatives to assist in rebuilding your computerized transit control system. I recommended KBR, they finished a complete retrofit of the London Tube two years ago, and have a storied history in large massive scale construction projects. TI handled all of the software and circuitry for the Tube retrofit as well as the control stations and autopilot system for the subway rail network. I have instructed both companies to bill our government for this service. Consider it a gift to the Roman people from there Hawdawgian neighbors.


Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Layarteb
09-05-2007, 02:45
We would like to thank the world for their continued support. It has been uplifting during this very difficult time. Any assistance offered is appreciated and accepted.

Emperor Valerius IV Maderia

****Communique to Hawdawg Prime Minister Gordon Wells****

We would like to work with your government to help improve our computerized transit system. We currently need new connection wires to attach to the machinery and we would like to work with your nation's technicians to improve our own infrastructure. Let us know what you can do.

Emperor Valerius IV Maderia

************************************************

OOC: Anyone like to comment on my crafty terrorist attack?

So it wasn't an accident huh?

EGYPT, JORDAN CEEDE FROM THE REALM!

http://www.lgic.org/lebanonphotos_files/revolution/lebanon_kuwait2.jpg
Archive photograph of the demonstrations

OSLO (CTB): After a long time of secret, top-level negotiations and in a recent public vote, the Realm of Cotland has decided to ceede the territories of Egypt and Jordan to the United Federation of Eurasia with certain stipulations which has yet to be made public.

The news of the handover, which is expected to be made within the end of the year, was met with celebrations in the streets of Cairo, Alexandria, Amman, al Jafr and other cities in the two territories, as the ~132,000,000 ethnic Arabs currently residing in the territories celebrated their democracy in practice. There has recently been several cases of public disturbances in the region as ethnic Arabs has demonstrated against the Government and the policies of His Majesty's Government in Egypt and Jordan.

Prime Minister Rothsky said in the press conference where the Government made the announcement that "the will of the people must be respected." The Prime Minister declined further comments, saying only that all the information needed could be found in the official press release that was made public on the Government's websites shortly after the press conference.

It is expected that Israel, which is a predominantly ethnic Cottish population, will remain affiliated with the Realm of Cotland.

The United Federation of Eurasia has yet to make an official comment on the news.

Hmm...do I have bases there?




Also, after careful consideration I've realized that the amount of money it would take to make Baker Island a nominal entity again is just too high (I could rebuild my Air Force for that amount of money), I'm going to offer it back to Spizania until the following terms:

(1) The Empire will recognize the Spizanian government
(2) The Spizanian government shall do the same for the Empire
(3) The Spizanian government shall not, under any circumstance, wage offensive war against the Empire & vice versa
(4) These conditions continue to be upheld regardless of changes in government bodies

?
RomeW
09-05-2007, 07:07
So it wasn't an accident huh?

Follow the link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12621833#post12621833

I tried to do something a bit more than say "The Winter War is updated" in the last post.

Communique to the Roman Government

I have personally contacted Engineers at the Texas Instrument's Facilities in Ft. Worth as well as the top construction company Keller, Brown and Root in Houston. Both companies have agreed to send representatives to assist in rebuilding your computerized transit control system. I recommended KBR, they finished a complete retrofit of the London Tube two years ago, and have a storied history in large massive scale construction projects. TI handled all of the software and circuitry for the Tube retrofit as well as the control stations and autopilot system for the subway rail network. I have instructed both companies to bill our government for this service. Consider it a gift to the Roman people from their Hawdawgian neighbors.


Signed,

Gordon Wells
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

We would like to thank our neighbours for their generosity and we will instruct the companies to get started with the projects as soon as possible.

Emperor Valerius IV Maderia

(OOC: fixed a typo ("there/their")...not to be a nitpicker, but I figured you didn't intend it there in the first place)
Pushka
09-05-2007, 07:45
Official Statement From Russian Federation


In light of recent tragedy that struck the nation of Rome we would like to offer any kind of assistance necessary to the families of those who lost their loved ones to this incident.

-Russian Foreign Ministry
Cotland
09-05-2007, 09:40
Hmm...do I have bases there?
I think you have a regiment of the Foreign Legion (5th) in the Sinai - they can be relocated to Israel or Siberia if you'd like.
Spizania
09-05-2007, 17:53
Also, after careful consideration I've realized that the amount of money it would take to make Baker Island a nominal entity again is just too high (I could rebuild my Air Force for that amount of money), I'm going to offer it back to Spizania until the following terms:

(1) The Empire will recognize the Spizanian government
(2) The Spizanian government shall do the same for the Empire
(3) The Spizanian government shall not, under any circumstance, wage offensive war against the Empire & vice versa
(4) These conditions continue to be upheld regardless of changes in government bodies

We accept the terms
Layarteb
10-05-2007, 00:38
I think you have a regiment of the Foreign Legion (5th) in the Sinai - they can be relocated to Israel or Siberia if you'd like.

Nah it's cool OK says I can keep them there.

We accept the terms

Then Baker Island is a yours...have fun bankrupting yourself fixing it (LOL).
Whittlesfield
13-05-2007, 14:49
Could I have Norfolk Island please?
Layarteb
13-05-2007, 17:36
I officially declare today, May 13, 2007, Metallica Day! All those who oppose meet me on the Whitestone Bridge at 4:00 p.m. and bring a life jacket. You'll need it!
Hawdawg
13-05-2007, 20:38
I officially declare today, May 13, 2007, Metallica Day! All those who oppose meet me on the Whitestone Bridge at 4:00 p.m. and bring a life jacket. You'll need it!

Well I don't particularly care for Metallica, but go ahead make them a day. As long as you remember to have classic rock day honoring all those whom they based there work on.

Remember kids, RAP sucks unless its the original Sir Mix Alot generation (the group that invented the beats ALL the new artists rip off).


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Layarteb
13-05-2007, 21:54
Well I don't particularly care for Metallica, but go ahead make them a day. As long as you remember to have classic rock day honoring all those whom they based there work on.

Remember kids, RAP sucks unless its the original Sir Mix Alot generation (the group that invented the beats ALL the new artists rip off).


This service message brought to you by:

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Everyday is classic rock day :).
Saint Lazare
14-05-2007, 01:35
[ooc: a quick ooc to ROMEW - I hope you don't mind that I've been continuing to use Roman characters for my Cosa Nostra plots in WOD...]


IC:

The Grand Duchy wishes to open diplomatic talks with Romania, in order to discuss a potential expansion of diplomatic relations between our two states, and perhaps to generate a FTA.


ALSO - I will be getting back to doing the ITC stuff once I'm completely done with School
Layarteb
14-05-2007, 02:32
Glad to see you back. Good post in RTL and I eagerly await the continuing of said awesome plot.
RomeW
14-05-2007, 05:26
[ooc: a quick ooc to ROMEW - I hope you don't mind that I've been continuing to use Roman characters for my Cosa Nostra plots in WOD...]

I do mind...I had no idea you were using them (although I'm not sure what "WOD" stands for...jog my memory).
Layarteb
14-05-2007, 06:11
I do mind...I had no idea you were using them (although I'm not sure what "WOD" stands for...jog my memory).

War on Drugs. I'm going to be reworking the first two posts of Infernal.
RomeW
14-05-2007, 07:43
War on Drugs. I'm going to be reworking the first two posts of Infernal.

Thanks. I don't ever remember allowing use of my characters there though.
Whittlesfield
14-05-2007, 16:52
Could I have Norfolk Island please?

Anyone? And whilst we're on the subject of music, what do you lot think of the new Queens of the Stone Age stuff?
Layarteb
15-05-2007, 03:26
Thanks. I don't ever remember allowing use of my characters there though.

If I remember properly, you, Dooms and SL were setting up a nifty mafia storyline. SL has just kept it alive.

Anyone? And whilst we're on the subject of music, what do you lot think of the new Queens of the Stone Age stuff?

Did you try TG'ing him and are you familiar with the multiple Earth clause in the charter?
Pantheaa
16-05-2007, 00:35
Man this Russian military ad makes no sense. First they are fighting some stupid people who are charging a trench (dummies) and then it shows a guy GETTING OUT OF FORMATION to talk to his friend. If that was american army the Platoon sergent would be like "WTF do you think your doing private!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHmiqmfNLhE&mode=related&search=

I still like that Czech army one i posted a couple of months ago
Pushka
16-05-2007, 23:43
Man this Russian military ad makes no sense. First they are fighting some stupid people who are charging a trench (dummies) and then it shows a guy GETTING OUT OF FORMATION to talk to his friend. If that was american army the Platoon sergent would be like "WTF do you think your doing private!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHmiqmfNLhE&mode=related&search=

I still like that Czech army one i posted a couple of months ago

Its an ad, in the real Russian Army if that guy stepped out of formation his praporshik would give him zalet aka a formal beating right before bed time.
Squornshelous
17-05-2007, 01:37
Damn, my life has been rather insane lately. Sorry for kind of dropping of the face of the earth for a while there. Hope to get back up to date with things by the weekend.
Layarteb
17-05-2007, 05:27
That's alright Squorn. There's a big lull right now (lots of exams).

OT: Has anyone formed any opinions yet on Infernal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525924)? I deleted the first "real" post and moved the second up to its slot and added a new part just now. Let me know what you think.
RomeW
17-05-2007, 07:34
If I remember properly, you, Dooms and SL were setting up a nifty mafia storyline. SL has just kept it alive.

That might be all Doomingsland...he's Roman too. To my knowledge, I never took part in that thread...I don't even think I have a post in there. Since there *are* Romans in that thread I'll assume that Doomingsland *did* approve, but I want it very clear that none of the action actually takes place specifically in *my* territories. Doomingsland's...go nuts (well, within Doomingsland's limits, anyway).
Whittlesfield
17-05-2007, 12:05
So I need to send a TG to the guy who's giving the land away? I'm not in E20 anymore, and E20 got deleted, so I really should update my signature.
Nerotika
17-05-2007, 15:08
I need to ask to be put on vacation mode for awhile, when I come back I can finish the blood of mother russia but for now I have alot to finish in school.
Layarteb
17-05-2007, 23:46
That might be all Doomingsland...he's Roman too. To my knowledge, I never took part in that thread...I don't even think I have a post in there. Since there *are* Romans in that thread I'll assume that Doomingsland *did* approve, but I want it very clear that none of the action actually takes place specifically in *my* territories. Doomingsland's...go nuts (well, within Doomingsland's limits, anyway).

Ahh perhaps...very perhaps...

So I need to send a TG to the guy who's giving the land away? I'm not in E20 anymore, and E20 got deleted, so I really should update my signature.

You could but E20 was never an issue. E5 would fall under those clauses.

I need to ask to be put on vacation mode for awhile, when I come back I can finish the blood of mother russia but for now I have alot to finish in school.

Sure.
Layarteb
18-05-2007, 03:16
Currently being retired by the ILM

AGM-177 Brimstone

Recently reitred by the ILM

BGM-71 TOW 2
AGM-114 Hellfire II
BGM-187 Firefly

In-development

BGM-225 APATM [anti-tank, gun launched missile]
BGM-229 Silencer [IIR or wire-guided, helicopter, aircraft, or vehicle launched missile]
AGM-230 Harbinger [aircraft or helicopter launched missile to fulfull role of the Brimstone]
Whittlesfield
18-05-2007, 12:08
Oops, I mean I'm not in E5 anymore and E20 got deleted. So how do I get the land?
Cotland
18-05-2007, 20:47
If you're not in it anymore, it might be an idea to remove it from your sig... just a thought.
Layarteb
19-05-2007, 04:00
Oops, I mean I'm not in E5 anymore and E20 got deleted. So how do I get the land?

Ah okay...there is quite a bit of South American land if you are interested as well..

Berkner Island
Brazil (Amapá)
Brazil (Bahia)
Brazil (Distrito Federal)
Brazil (Espírito Santo)
Brazil (Goiás)
Brazil (Maranhão)
Brazil (Mato Grosso)
Brazil (Minas Gerais)
Brazil (Pará)
Brazil (Roraima)
Brazil (Tocantins)
Juan de Nova Island
Paraguay
South Orkney Island
Thurston Island
Uruguay


You can choose a big one and a few small ones if you want.
Hawdawg
19-05-2007, 21:17
After much debate and quandry I have selected two cartridges to replace the .50 BMG for long range antipersonnel duties. The .408CheyTac cartridge and the .338 Lupua (8.6x70mm) cartridge for extreme long range sniper duties. The .50 caliber Barrett Rifles will remain in the arsenal for static targets and other hard targets. This switch has occured after an extensive testing at the Long Range Sniper Training Academy based in West Texas. This change will take effect immediately across the board in all branches of service. It should be denoted that dedicated scout-sniper teams will be the only personnel effected by this change. Extended range marksmen in Hawdawg Marine Squads and spotters in Scout-Sniper teams will still be issued the M14 DMR Rifle. Long range marksmen in regular Army Units not specifically assigned S-S duty will be issued the standard HK417S.

It should also be noted that all Hawdawg Armed Forces have now been issued the HK417 as the new standard battle weapon.

Our standard issue sidearm remains the HK Mk23 .45 ACP w/12 round clip standard. SOF are usually issued a silenced version based on the type of mission they must undertake.

All our NOCOM's that handle Armory duty within each Company have all been HK certified as Master Armorers through a program we launched last year. We now have in-house training for all our Armorer candidates at the UTA War College in Houston.

-------------------------------------------

I have moved away from the .223 NATO round and have returned to the power and range of the venerable .308 round. I know many folks like the new Remington 6.6 round but I don't care for it. Of course I will maintain a select group of special weapons for various Close Quarters Combat scenarios in various speciality units but for the average ground pounder I want a .308 in his or her hands. I do have mixed emotions about bringing it back without using the M14 DMR as the standard rifle, but as well as its made and as rugged as it is, normal troopers simply don't need it because of the added weight. The HK is easier to field strip and clean plus well its an HK and they are one of the top 5 firearms builders in the world.


I just wanted this denoted somewhere, while I was thinking about it.

-Hawdawg
Cotland
20-05-2007, 00:00
Understandable. I mean, if you have the choice between this...

http://images.military.com/EQGpics/EQG_WSAM25_1.jpg


and this...


http://www.ludd.luth.se/~antenna/dc/weap/rifles/assault/hk417.jpg


Which do you choose? I'd personally go for the HK 417, which is an excellent variant of the excellent HK 416, which is about to be the new standard weapon for the Royal Norwegian Armed Forces (with some HK 417s going to marksmen as well)!


http://armedforcesjournal.com/blackwater/2005_hk416.jpg
(Norwegian Standard Issue Rifle, only missing the Aimpoint red-dot..)
Spizania
20-05-2007, 00:35
Ive never had a .50 cal sniper rifle in service, im currently using an unstatted semi automatic 17.78mm x 140mm SLC Sniper Rifle, its funky.
And i have 7mm x 57mm SAR for my standard battle rifle round.
LONG LIVE THE BATTLE RIFLE, DEATH TO THE HEINOUS COMMIE CONSPIRACY THAT IS THE ASSAULT RIFLE.

Also. Rifle Grenades are soooo much cooler than those tacky underbarrel things.
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 01:11
Ive never had a .50 cal sniper rifle in service, im currently using an unstatted semi automatic 17.78mm x 140mm SLC Sniper Rifle, its funky.
And i have 7mm x 57mm SAR for my standard battle rifle round.
LONG LIVE THE BATTLE RIFLE, DEATH TO THE HEINOUS COMMIE CONSPIRACY THAT IS THE ASSAULT RIFLE.

Also. Rifle Grenades are soooo much cooler than those tacky underbarrel things.

Actually that's a Nazi conspiracy. The STG-44 was German.

Speaking of guns, who thinks it'd be cool to bring back the Thompson and the Garand?
Spizania
20-05-2007, 01:29
The Garand yes, the Thompson no
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 01:43
The Garand yes, the Thompson no

Ah come on, it cost $45USD to make at one point in time :). It's a great weapon and its hard hitting :).
Hawdawg
20-05-2007, 04:32
Ah come on, it cost $45USD to make at one point in time :). It's a great weapon and its hard hitting :).

You can still buy a standard issue M1 Garand made to exact Government Standards from Springfield Armory for less than $1000. M14's are around $1500 stripped, add extra picanny rails, aiming lasers, etc. and the price goes up. You can even buy a version dedicated to the late great Carlos Hathcock. The three best weapons to come out of the early 1900's were the Browning .50 cal machine gun, the M1911A1 Government .45 ACP, and the Garand 30-06. They all could take a pounding and continue to function, all had sufficient knock down power for the task at hand, and the business of killing picked up around 1940.

As far as the thompson, I would rather have an MP5 chambered in .45 ACP. It would be more aiming friendly.

-Hawdawg
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 04:39
You can still buy a standard issue M1 Garand made to exact Government Standards from Springfield Armory for less than $1000. M14's are around $1500 stripped, add extra picanny rails, aiming lasers, etc. and the price goes up. You can even buy a version dedicated to the late great Carlos Hathcock. The three best weapons to come out of the early 1900's were the Browning .50 cal machine gun, the M1911A1 Government .45 ACP, and the Garand 30-06. They all could take a pounding and continue to function, all had sufficient knock down power for the task at hand, and the business of killing picked up around 1940.

As far as the thompson, I would rather have an MP5 chambered in .45 ACP. It would be more aiming friendly.

-Hawdawg


Well to get a Garand in NYC means $1000 + $600 for all the permits. They have an SMG in .45ACP it's the UMP :).
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 06:50
I had the mods change the name of "Quietly Into the Night" to War on Terrorism. You see, I think everyone got the impression that the RP was one of my story ones I guess but it isn't, it's a public RP for all "terror wars" like we have with the war on drugs so please, if you want post. I'm doing a history thing right now about the terrorist groups that rose up between 1976 and 1977 (I won't go into the revolution except for that one year). Then I'll probably go into IJAM and maybe some RLA stuff...
Hawdawg
20-05-2007, 17:02
Well to get a Garand in NYC means $1000 + $600 for all the permits. They have an SMG in .45ACP it's the UMP :).

Hence the reason I won't ever live in NYC. I would have to spend $30k on permits for the collection I have.

-Hawdawg
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 18:14
Hence the reason I won't ever live in NYC. I would have to spend $30k on permits for the collection I have.

-Hawdawg

Yep. That's why I have knives :).
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 19:09
God I love Pirates of the Caribbean.
Pushka
20-05-2007, 19:20
I had the mods change the name of "Quietly Into the Night" to War on Terrorism. You see, I think everyone got the impression that the RP was one of my story ones I guess but it isn't, it's a public RP for all "terror wars" like we have with the war on drugs so please, if you want post. I'm doing a history thing right now about the terrorist groups that rose up between 1976 and 1977 (I won't go into the revolution except for that one year). Then I'll probably go into IJAM and maybe some RLA stuff...

Yeah that should fix it, PLA (Pushkan Liberation Army) aka the Neo-Nazis are going to be having a comeback, as you guys know (or don't know) they were pawns in the Pushkan Revolution of 2005 (which happened 15 years ago by my count so 1992) their suicide bomber attack on the Communist Parliament and destruction of the building and all the delegates in it allowed Premier Alexandr Chorni to declare Marshall Law in the country and proclaim himself Tsar which resulted in a war between his supporters and the loyalist Army lead by Marshal Zhukov (there was about 50/50 split in the armed forces with most of the Gvardias backing the Tsar and most regular armies backing Zhukov) in the end the People's Defense Directorate a sort of a nation wide volunteer militia that was created under the communist rule put an end to all the fighting without firing a shot, the speech their leader made basically talked about putting the guns down and letting the people decide what kind of government they want. Zhukov surrendered the PDD realizing that it would be most patriotic thing to do, he loved his country and if the will of its people was to put the guns away he had no other choice but to do it. Tsar Alexandr had a different idea but was quickly shot by one of his own men while attempting to escape his HQs in a R/C-R bunker outside of Voronej. However as the civil war that lasted several months begun the PLA attempted to take control of several small cities going by the advice of Peter Kuzmich who while a neo-nazi was also a member of the Parliament and a key player in Alexandr's plan, the story began with Alexandr bribing Kuzmich to join his side after which Kuzmich killed the leader of the suicide bombers after the neo-nazis left the basement across the street from the Parliament and Kuzmich was left alone with their commander, Kuzmich was also the one who convinced the neo-nazis to carry out this attack telling them that it would start a revolution during which they will able to take control of the nation. After that incident Kuzmich disappeared and probably left the country because he knew once the power struggle he began ended Alexandr would go after him since he would be the last one who knew the truth. In any case Kuzmich also told Alexandr about all the neo-nazi plans once the revolution began and as their main force charged towards the first city they were to take under their control and make their base the Gvardia troops loyal to the Tsar eradicated them with an ambush. After the main commander of the PLA received the news he shot himself in his command bunker realizing Kuzmich's betrayal and cursing him with his last words. In any case after the revolution was done the Russian Federation a nation of democracy has emerged for the first time the PLA with no leadership disbanded and for the time being all ends were tied except one, Kuzmich is still alive and although he betrayed the PLA he only did so out of fear and realization of the hopelessness of their cause his conviction to their values and their ultimate goal has not changed and now with the situation in the country being completely different from the days right before the revolution he might emerge once again this time as he leader of the PLA.
Whittlesfield
20-05-2007, 21:29
I'll have Uruguay, Thurston Island, Berkner Island, and South Orkney Isles please?
Layarteb
20-05-2007, 23:40
You got it. Do you want fries with that?
Saint Lazare
21-05-2007, 00:03
That might be all Doomingsland...he's Roman too. To my knowledge, I never took part in that thread...I don't even think I have a post in there. Since there *are* Romans in that thread I'll assume that Doomingsland *did* approve, but I want it very clear that none of the action actually takes place specifically in *my* territories. Doomingsland's...go nuts (well, within Doomingsland's limits, anyway).

Sorry about the confusion...

It was probably him, but the truth is that I've only really used Sicily in the RPs...much of the action has been around the world. Of course, it's also rather confusing when I'm using the characters because of the distinction between the two Romes...

I was just asking because there's a character in RTL that is either about to be captured and/or cause more trouble than what he has already done.
Layarteb
21-05-2007, 05:40
SL do you want to RP the interrogation/questioning? It'd probably make sense if you did since you know where you are going with it.
Whittlesfield
21-05-2007, 11:26
You got it. Do you want fries with that?

No ketchup though. Do you guys have a chatroom?
Saint Lazare
21-05-2007, 15:41
SL do you want to RP the interrogation/questioning? It'd probably make sense if you did since you know where you are going with it.

I'll do it :D

If I'm doing stupid stuff on behalf of the police, feel free to intervene and do it properly, but hopefully, I'll be equally effective as the interrogator as the interrogatee.
Cotland
21-05-2007, 23:37
Gonna need to go on D13 until June 1st (moving + exams).
Pantheaa
22-05-2007, 00:56
Hey Pushka have you heard about this film called Daywatch. Its coming to america and it looks pretty good

http://www.foxsearchlight.com/daywatch/
Layarteb
22-05-2007, 04:05
I'll do it :D

If I'm doing stupid stuff on behalf of the police, feel free to intervene and do it properly, but hopefully, I'll be equally effective as the interrogator as the interrogatee.

You're doing fine so far. The police interrogators are highly skilled but they'll never wander off into torture or threats or any of that. It's too easy to just use conventional interrogations, which often yield much better results.

In particular situations, like we did with the Cottish kids that were smuggling drugs, we subjected them to some sleep deprevation, some light, noise, and heat torture. Studies show that the most irritating things to a human being are noise and heat so we use that effectively. We even made them shit their pants and left them with it. It wasn't conventional, per say.
RomeW
22-05-2007, 07:26
Sorry about the confusion...

It was probably him, but the truth is that I've only really used Sicily in the RPs...much of the action has been around the world. Of course, it's also rather confusing when I'm using the characters because of the distinction between the two Romes...

I was just asking because there's a character in RTL that is either about to be captured and/or cause more trouble than what he has already done.

That's okay- I understand. The best way to look at our nation would be how an American would look at California and Alabama, a Canadian at Alberta and Quebec or an Italian at Milan and Catanzaro- two completely different worlds but still part of the same nation. The only difference is that those worlds have almost complete say about what goes in inside their part of the nation and have some say about what goes on around them (i.e., control over regional affairs). Officially, the Roman Empire on Earth II is a confederation, but a strong one.
Layarteb
24-05-2007, 01:27
Well, it's officially Fleet Week in New York City so guess what that means for Earth II & Layarteb City. The 3rd annual (NS annual that is) Layarteb City Fleet Week!

All are invited, as usual...please make reservations for your ships and try to limit them to just a couple, four at most. There will be mock amphibious & aerial landings by the Imperial Layartebian Marines, an air show, many flyovers, and the standard Layartebian party complete with fireworks and 24 hours of blastedly good fun!

Thread of Awesomity (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527806)
Spizania
24-05-2007, 17:44
Whats the largest allowable warship in earth two? 500 kilotonnes?
Hirgizstan
24-05-2007, 20:23
Biggest ship by weight, I think, is my Ronald Reagan Class and its 192,000 Tonnes fully loaded. I reckon 200,000-250,000 would be the max practical weight of any ship. It gets into the realms of PMT-uber gayness after that.
Spizania
24-05-2007, 20:25
This is what happens when you build your navy for regular NS...... um, i think i have a ~240 kilotonne ship lying around, il rig it for my 86.36cm/70s and turn it loose.