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I still think you should be the "economic" capital of Earth II...you certainly have the resources to do so.

Thank you, I'd need to negotiate with Elephantum (we are competitors in the world oil-market and he has way more than me) and a few others to not put me out of business oil-wise. Africa is rich with well, everything. And being in charge of the stock exchange helps me out a bit as well.

Thank you, I'd need to negotiate with Elephantum (we are competitors in the world oil-market and he has way more than me) and a few others to not put me out of business oil-wise. Africa is rich with well, everything. And being in charge of the stock exchange helps me out a bit as well.
You're welcome.

Saudi Arabia has way more oil than the US but in terms of economic strength the US wins hands down. Clearly you're the most economically-minded nation here, so it's a good fit.

I still think you should be the "economic" capital of Earth II...you certainly have the resources to do so.

That's my job :(.

I didn't waste hours of my life writing down the Neo-Carthage (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Neo-Carthage) page on NSWiki for nothing!

In accordance with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10302167&postcount=38), which will cost $316.585B. I am building the following:


Arsenal Class MMGN: 2
Dnalkrad Class FFGN: 16
Earthquake Class BBGN: 8
Emory Land Class AS: 5
Enterprise Class CVN: 3
Henry Kaiser Class AO: 10
Hunter Class SSN*: 8
Hurricane Class MMGN: 6
Indefatigable Flight II Class DDGN: 16
Liberty II Class AKN: 16
New York Class SSGN*: 3
Odin Flight II Class CVAEN: 2
Scythe Flight II Class SSN*: 6
Seawolf Flight III Class SSN*: 2
Supply Class AOE: 16
Twin Towers Flight IIA Class FFN: 16
Unforgiven Class CGN: 16
Vampire Class CVN: 2
Verrazano Class DDKN: 16
Wilson Class AKRN: 5
A-5D Vigilante: 24
AH-94B Stalker: 14
AV-8C Harrier III: 6
C-2B Greyhound: 14
CH-53E Super Stallion: 85
E-2D Hawkeye: 14
EA-5F Vigilante: 12
EA-18G Growler: 12
F-14E Super Tomcat: 36
F-19B Ghostrider*: 48
F-24B Knightowl*: 48
F-26B Typhoon: 64
F-29A Vulture: 48
F-35B Raven: 14
F-37E Razor*: 72
HH-60H Sea Hawk: 32
HV-24C Bulldog: 4
KA-3C Skywarrior: 12
RA-5E Vigilante: 12
S-3B Viking: 12
SH-60R Sea Hawk: 88
SH-97A Serpent: 14
SH-97B Serpent: 41
UH-95A Huey II: 8

Just bought myself 2 bottles of fine Bourbon, one bottle of Knob Creek, and one bottle of Wild Turkey, can't wait. lol.

Ok I know I own Fernando Póo as part of E.Guinea and all that entails. I made deals involving Principe to Elephantum and Sao Tome with Kreynoria so I've already been workign with them as if they were under my control. I assumed when I claimed E. Guinea I acquired those islands as well. As I recall in the old Africa map that Island was painted Bjornoyan pink.

Well if you've been working as they belong to you, you may as well annex them. That Soviet Sith guy is gone probably for good, so their as good as yours.

Who thinks we should bring back the old 21/28 day rules for D12?

Bjorn-We like to keep the oil industry run by national companies, as most places it is the only industry. Tourism isnt that big a factor when the landscape is never-ending sand, and neither is agriculture. Overall the 3 biggest industries are Oil, Herding, and Manufacturing (including shipbuilding/repair) Having a nation with Herding as the largest industry isn't a good thing, especially when you are my size.

Bjorn-We like to keep the oil industry run by national companies, as most places it is the only industry. Tourism isnt that big a factor when the landscape is never-ending sand, and neither is agriculture. Overall the 3 biggest industries are Oil, Herding, and Manufacturing (including shipbuilding/repair) Having a nation with Herding as the largest industry isn't a good thing, especially when you are my size.

lol, wretched animals. I know you like keeping your oil to Elephanti companies. I was thinking something along the lines of Bjornoya purchases oil monthly from Elephanti companies for a decent amount somewhat below the 'average' price (it would be worth it just to have a stable source of income). In exchange Visara will work with Elephantum in maintaining a stable oil price and not under or overvaluating the price of oil. As well it will attempt to enforce a mean oil price throughout the world.
Bjornoya already is about self-sufficient but I want to grow, both population-wise and economic-wise. With population growth I will lose self-sufficiency thus the need for foreign negotiations.

When the Revolution Comes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465343)

New thread above

What if we offer you a certain percentage of oil available for export (at least 85% of what we pump goes to other countries) and set up a plan to try to keep the price per gallon (not including taxes) in a select range? I'm not an economist by any standards, so you would know better than I would.

Who thinks we should bring back the old 21/28 day rules for D12?

They still apply - the 60 day rule is for people who are alive, just not posting on the thread. It's completely fair to be honest.

When the Revolution Comes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465343)

New thread above

What if we offer you a certain percentage of oil available for export (at least 85% of what we pump goes to other countries) and set up a plan to try to keep the price per gallon (not including taxes) in a select range? I'm not an economist by any standards, so you would know better than I would.

Ele you still open for a base trade and a foreign relations conferece?

I hereby give Swimbabwe all of Sri Lanka save the Northern Province and the North Central province.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sri_Lanka_provinces.jpg
Thanks again. There will be an RP on this is a week or so.

When the Revolution Comes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465343)

New thread above

What if we offer you a certain percentage of oil available for export (at least 85% of what we pump goes to other countries) and set up a plan to try to keep the price per gallon (not including taxes) in a select range? I'm not an economist by any standards, so you would know better than I would.

Yeah, I could do something along those lines. Do you have a healthy agricultural sector, cause that would make this much easier. If not I got find someplace that will import vast quantities of food via naval/air routes to isolated regions of Bjornoyan mainland.

I got a very robust Agriculture Sector, can ship massive amounts of food from either Russia or Africa. It'll come at a price and we'd need an agreement of sorts.

Yeah, I could do something along those lines. Do you have a healthy agricultural sector, cause that would make this much easier. If not I got find someplace that will import vast quantities of food via naval/air routes to isolated regions of Bjornoyan mainland.

Or i can transport it to your directly by land, or by sea, a nation of my size (land wise) can afford to have a large agricultural output. Plus since we're in VCO together i'll make you a bargain.

We don't provide much for export. A bad season in India, or overactive locusts in the Middle East would cause a huge famine, actually.

Or i can transport it to your directly by land, or by sea, a nation of my size (land wise) can afford to have a large agricultural output. Plus since we're in VCO together i'll make you a bargain.

Deal, as I recall Russia was famous for its grain exports after ww2

I got a very robust Agriculture Sector, can ship massive amounts of food from either Russia or Africa. It'll come at a price and we'd need an agreement of sorts.

Need as much as I can get, the exotic foods of Africa will create large business throughout Bjornoya, maybe I should make a thread concerning all these deals.

Is Reagonica allied with anyone?

He is member of VCO.

Anybody going to have a problem if i claim Island of Rose's Liberia? Is he allied to anyone by any chance? Also what about the Sith? Is he anybodie's ally?

What parts of the UK, Ireland, and France are taken? I would like to claim the Irish island and the real-life London area, and the the whole north beach of France.

Can someone send me a telegram when this is answered, too? Thanks.

What parts of the UK, Ireland, and France are taken? I would like to claim the Irish island and the real-life London area, and the the whole north beach of France.

Can someone send me a telegram when this is answered, too? Thanks.

They all are:

Hawdawg has the UK
Layarteb has Ireland
North Germania has France

Did you try looking? Guess not.

What parts of the UK, Ireland, and France are taken? I would like to claim the Irish island and the real-life London area, and the the whole north beach of France.

Can someone send me a telegram when this is answered, too? Thanks.
Check the claims list on the first page, dofus!

Anybody going to have a problem if i claim Island of Rose's Liberia? Is he allied to anyone by any chance? Also what about the Sith? Is he anybodie's ally?

Sao Tome and Principe = Bjornoyan sphere of influence, Liberia don't care about.

Of course I wouldn't mind a big pipeline project. Also, how about my state-owned energy company having some stock in that company? Eastasia Petrochemical Industries would make an excellent partner in this venture.

Go buy some right now, also i am going to put up the thread about all the ENERGOTRUST business on VCO forums tomorrow.

Check the claims list on the first page, dofus!

Cot check TGs please, had an idea.

Sao Tome and Principe = Bjornoyan sphere of influence, Liberia don't care about.

Wait, so you telling me Soviet Sith is your ally? Can i still get that land? Its not for me i am trying to bring someone into EII, he is a good RPer and he will help our alliance, you think maybe you can give that up? Common man i just gave you all of komi and Novaya Zemlya.

Wait, so you telling me Soviet Sith is your ally? Can i still get that land? Its not for me i am trying to bring someone into EII, he is a good RPer and he will help our alliance, you think maybe you can give that up? Common man i just game you all of komi and Novaya Zemlya.

Neuvo Rica claimed it before you (Sao Tome + Principe) under the assumption S.S. was decree 12 (he is I'm pretty sure, never seen him) Since I don't officially own that land I'm gonna trade him Sierra Leone for the islands.
If he needs land he can talk with me, I got plenty. But S.W. Coast of Africa= giant Bjornoyan colony

You talking about my friend? You saying you might be able to give him land? Just calrifying.

You talking about my friend? You saying you might be able to give him land? Just calrifying.

Yeah, but as soon as I get this deal done with, will need to evaluate my situation and possibilities.

Aight, i just TGed him telling him to TG you, so expect a TG from him sometime soon. And thanks.

Anybody going to have a problem if i claim Island of Rose's Liberia? Is he allied to anyone by any chance? Also what about the Sith? Is he anybodie's ally?
I am allied to TIOR. Liberia is heavily influenced in almost every way from economy to society to military to Greece because of the strong alliance between TIOR and Greece.

And isen't TIOR still active? He hasen't been deleted or anything like that.

I am allied to TIOR. Liberia is heavily influenced in almost every way from economy to society to military to Greece because of the strong alliance between TIOR and Greece.

And isen't TIOR still active? He hasen't been deleted or anything like that.

He has been inactive for 14 days, i just thought i'd sneak attack him but since it is not neccessary i am not going to.

HAIL BE TO CHUCK! (http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/index.html)

Fecundity Initiative: Bjornoya's Destiny
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10306608#post10306608)
Nations I wish to make deals with here:
Elephantum
Hawdawg
Cotland
Russia
Hirgizstan

Although other are invited as well. Money will be made mostly by the people Visara is paying.

ALL VCO MEMBERS CHECK FORUMS

sidenote: Its just four of us now, geez.

ALL VCO MEMBERS CHECK FORUMS

sidenote: Its just four of us now, geez.

Hey, I only got three- and I used to have 19.

I need to set up an oil deal with somebody, seeing as I'm running a bit low on the stuff. Anybody with oil reserves, who is looking to import Bauxite, Copper, Iron or Timber - talk to me

I've traded Al Jawf, Hadramawt, and Al Mahrah to Nuevo Rica in exchange for Southern Sudan. (see links provided)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/mapspub/maps/802849.jpg
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/sudan_map.jpg

Confirmed

You can set up an Oil Deal with me if you want. The Exxonica Oil Corp. would be glad to deal with you.

I need to set up an oil deal with somebody, seeing as I'm running a bit low on the stuff. Anybody with oil reserves, who is looking to import Bauxite, Copper, Iron or Timber - talk to me
Want some oil from the North Sea? I'm interested in trading oil for copper and iron...

Cotland has agreed to give me Brunei in return for a business deal of sorts.

Cotland has agreed to give me Brunei in return for a business deal of sorts.
Confirmed.

I need to set up an oil deal with somebody, seeing as I'm running a bit low on the stuff. Anybody with oil reserves, who is looking to import Bauxite, Copper, Iron or Timber - talk to me

I could do oil for large quantities of timber + maize.

I need to set up an oil deal with somebody, seeing as I'm running a bit low on the stuff. Anybody with oil reserves, who is looking to import Bauxite, Copper, Iron or Timber - talk to me

You can get a deal with ENERGOTRUST, i'll make you a very good deal.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465058
War in South America.

@Everyone who replied to my trade request:

Shall we do this on the EOL forums?

NR lays claim to the Sonora Province of Mexico

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)




Concerning Decree 12: Okay concerning Decree 12. You guys are putting people on and you do not realize that you do not have the authority for it. From now on Decree 12 requests will be sent to either me or Marimaia through telegrams. You just have to request that that nation be put on Decree 12 and one of us will post it. I am sorry but a problem looms whereby one person puts someone on Decree 12 and starts an invasion and you never know, that person could have requested Decree 13 or have an extenuating circumstance that could have been forgotten about in an update, etc. Thank you.





RomeW [Post 9152]: Thread added.
Huahin [Post 9154]: Varsola last posted on 28-12-2005, 1:32 PM, which is only 30 days ago. You can attack but it will not be a Decree 12 attack.
Neuvo Rica [Post 9155]: The Soviet Sith last posted in October so yes he would be Decree 12. Yes you will need an RP to claim those lands.
Hirgy [Post 9156]: That's fine.
Elephantum [Post 9159]: Land exchanged.
RomeW [Post 9169]: Yeah TOA = The October Alliance. LOL saying The TOA = The The October Alliance, true, but surprisingly, when used with the acronym it does sound alright. You could say The OA or just TOA but eh, something, eh we don't mind, we say it too.
Cotland [Post 9192]: Thread added.
Hawdawg [Post 9211]: Duley noted.
Huahin [Post 9216]: Vatican / Hans done, Rockall added.
Bjornoya [Post 9231]: Technically no, The Soviet Sith own Sao Tome & Principe. Bioko was never a separate claim so you probably do own it.
Teh Ninjas [Post 9241]: Yemen changed with new map. Sudan also has a new map.
TLS [Post 9246]: Sri Lanka map made.
Pantheaa [Post 9247]: Thread added.
Huahin [Post 9257]: There was never a 21/28 day rule for Decree 12. Until the 60 days was added it never had a definite day and 21 days is covered in another Decree.
Elephantum [Post 9260]: Thread added.
Swimbabwe [Post 9263]: Welcome to Earth II.
Bjornoya [Post 9288]: Thread added.
Huahin [Post 9299]: Thread added.
NR [Post 9300]: You can lay claim but he isn't Decree 12 so you have to attack him through war and such.

I am claiming Ghana if my amount of territory allow me to, if i can't have it all i will settle for as much as i can of hte coastline part of it and up. And i'll of course RP a war since Varsola isn't D12 yet, or is he?

Anybody have any idea on what his forces might consist of?

I am claiming Ghana if my amount of territory allow me to, if i can't have it all i will settle for as much as i can of hte coastline part of it and up. And i'll of course RP a war since Varsola isn't D12 yet, or is he?

Did you even read the above post?

Didn't concern me so no. But i see it now.

RomeW [Post 9169]: Yeah TOA = The October Alliance. LOL saying The TOA = The The October Alliance, true, but surprisingly, when used with the acronym it does sound alright. You could say The OA or just TOA but eh, something, eh we don't mind, we say it too.

Eh, no big deal...I just noticed it and felt I needed to point it out, since, technically speaking, it *isn't* gramatically correct to say "The TOA" since the "T" stands for "The". In practice, though, "The TOA" will become gramatically correct once people get used to saying things like that, just how "But" and "And" now start sentences. English is evolving and this is just another aspect of it.

Eh, no big deal...I just noticed it and felt I needed to point it out, since, technically speaking, it *isn't* gramatically correct to say "The TOA" since the "T" stands for "The". In practice, though, "The TOA" will become gramatically correct once people get used to saying things like that, just how "But" and "And" now start sentences. English is evolving and this is just another aspect of it.

And and But should never be used to begin a sentence, no matter how much English evolves and I hope it doesn't evolve into ebonics, pfft!

Important Announcement:

I will NO LONGER accept ANY offers for Vatican City. If you wish to RP as the Papacy, go right ahead and I'll recognize it, but there will be NO physical transfer of the City period, for WHATEVER reason.

Thank you.

Just thought I'd let everyone know.

And and But should never be used to begin a sentence, no matter how much English evolves and I hope it doesn't evolve into ebonics, pfft!

I don't, but I've seen it used, and as much as I hate to see it, I recognize it as evolution. Hey, I'm sure Shakespeare would think that we speak funny. :D

I don't, but I've seen it used, and as much as I hate to see it, I recognize it as evolution. Hey, I'm sure Shakespeare would think that we speak funny. :D

Thank God Olde English went away.

You know Rome if you make 3 more posts in this thread you are at 666 posts :).

I've read a language called 'Middle English', was used between about 1000 and 1500 in England. Its a funny kind of language, as you can imagine there was no dictionary, so writers like Chaucer actually spell the same words differently, even if they are in the same sentence. I can't speak it, but I can read it and understand it to a fairly good extent. Its kind of a challenge to learn, and reading Chaucer, once you know what he is talking about, is actually quite a lot of fun. Middle Ages were fairly raunchy and explicit in their consideration of what was 'normal behaviour', so some of the stuff, while acceptable even to kids then, would be R rated now, which is very weird.

I used to do so bad on Shakespeare tests and quizes in HS because I just can't understand WTF he's saying.

Guess all potential invader's'll have their hopes dampened a bit:

I'm still around and active. So ha.

Guess all potential invader's'll have their hopes dampened a bit:

I'm still around and active. So ha.

Awesomity. Got AIM?

Noes, sorry. Got MSN?

Soviet Bloc & NG, please check the TOA alliance forum on my new forums.

Noes, sorry. Got MSN?

Ah...well in that case, I can drop you a telegram.

Ah...well in that case, I can drop you a telegram.

Fine by me.

Guess all potential invader's'll have their hopes dampened a bit:

I'm still around and active. So ha.

Hey man, the first person to conquer you would be moi, and I didn't. See how reliable I am?

Hey man, the first person to conquer you would be moi, and I didn't. See how reliable I am?

That's 'cause I love you.:p We all love TLS.

Guess all potential invader's'll have their hopes dampened a bit:

I'm still around and active. So ha.

Don't worry we're not backing down.

Well I'm stricken. Let's get down with the sickness.

Its from that song in that movie, whats the name, land of the dead? Its a good film me thinks a good song too.

Nope.

There needs to be an "Open Lands" post thing! I'm not checking every map!

There needs to be an "Open Lands" post thing! I'm not checking every map!
You need to learn Ctrl+F, moron.

You need to learn manners, no-life.

How the **** is that going to help!?!

You need to learn manners, no-life.

How the **** is that going to help!?!
:rolleyes:

You need to learn manners, no-life.

How the **** is that going to help!?!

All you have to do is read the claims list and check the maps. There doesn't need to be anything open, you just need to learn how to look.

All you have to do is read the claims list and check the maps. There doesn't need to be anything open, you just need to learn how to look.

Exactly. All the land I want (any land, for that matter) is taken. And how would I 'look' for open lands when they are none?

Exactly. All the land I want (any land, for that matter) is taken. And how would I 'look' for open lands when they are none?

You want land you either have to fight or beg for it.

Ah, ok. Thank you!

So, now off to war...

Ah, ok. Thank you!

So, now off to war...

Just make sure you are familiar with the charter and the land-population matrix and so on and so fourth.

OK, will do.

So what's your stats for the Irish island...?

OK, will do.

So what's your stats for the Irish island...?

Well about 1/5 of my military is placed in Iceland, Ireland, Chechnya, and some other random Russian Republic. So basically 1/10th is on Iceland and Ireland, with immediate assistance available from the main part of the Empire, which is in Canada and the states. I can have naval forces there within a week and I have a CVBG on patrol in the North Sea, a CVEG in the Norwegian Sea, another CVBG in the Atlantic, and an Amphibious Group moving through the Atlantic as well.

In so far as the local population, they are pretty well adjusted to the Empire. RP'ing as an insurgent group like the IRA would get you limited success but its firm in the hands of my grasp.

So, the top 'half' might be hard to take? It's not at all much land. I just want that...

So, the top 'half' might be hard to take? It's not at all much land. I just want that...

I'm not giving away land, especially not Ireland.

I know, I was just asking. I don't mind fighting for it. Not nukes, duh, but still. I want SOME French or UK or Ireland area. Like, North France (shore), Irish island, and shore of south England (part the Reich has). So, yeah...

I know, I was just asking. I don't mind fighting for it. Not nukes, duh, but still. I want SOME French or UK or Ireland area. Like, North France (shore), Irish island, and shore of south England (part the Reich has). So, yeah...

Yeah you are pretty much attacking some of the most powerful people in E2.

No offense, but you and Reich have like... a billino sq. miles (exaggeration), so why can't other people attack for little tiny bits? Ah, well. Who can I attack for land?

No offense, but you and Reich have like... a billino sq. miles (exaggeration), so why can't other people attack for little tiny bits? Ah, well. Who can I attack for land?

You can but don't expect much success.

I don't...lol. But who cna I attakc and expect some succes?

I don't...lol. But who cna I attakc and expect some succes?

Well RP'ing as an insurgent or rebel group or an internal political group and such would pretty much require the permission of someone of that land. Technically nobody has to give you land but many of the people will give you some if you ask nice enough.

Cotland check your TGs please.

Hey Hamas won the election in Palestine.

I wonder what would happen if Nod terrorist won the Panthean election after the downfall of the communist regime

NG requested D13 because he's moving back to New Orleans and starting school again. He told me they are still working on getting the net up there so he doesn't know how long it'll be until he's back but he will be.

I don't...lol. But who cna I attakc and expect some succes?
You can RP some insurgents / freedom fighters in my parts of Afghanistan if you want them...

Do you have AIM?

*does a happy dance*

Two of my biggest goals on E2 were just accomplished. I united the old Sultanate of Al Bahrayn, stretching from Kuwait to Oman. At the same time, I got every square inch of the Persian Gulf. My own little Mare Nostrum. Kinda pales in comparison to Lay's ownership of the entire North Atlantic, but there's always the Arabian Sea...unfortunately, most of it is friendly territory. Varsola there may just be an invasion force with your name on it.


EDIT-Lay, the Sri Lanka map has no labels

TLS-Can I trade either Monaco or my smidgen of Antarctica for Indian province D?

NTG, looks like we will need to postpone the Greek war RP until NG makes it back?

Concerning Soviet Sith:


He is part of Pacifinesia United Alliance, and is therefore allied to myself, Huahin, and Azimeth. His last login was 14 days ago.

Any attempt to invade him will result in my defense, and probably the rest of Pacifinesia.

The last RP he participated in was Marimaia's invasion of Taiwan, controlled by him at that time.

Guess then we can invade him as well since we're already going to be fighting Huahin because of his actions.

As I recall NR claimed the region, Bjornoya will assist its ally in claiming Sao Tome and Principe. The entire coast of Africa is one giant Bjornoyan warzone, I don't expect the resistance to fare so well.

Shit i was going to claim that, oh well.

Bettering relations

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10316370#post10316370


@RomeW: Dude this is it, i posted the me/cotland relations thread, you can do your thing.

Lay you're allied with Varsola? Hmmm... show me one of his 70 odd posts that shows this and I'll believe you. Otherwise NR is deserving of those SA lands that are going to waste at the moment.

And also remember that if you attack us for attacking Varsola you will break the NAP.

In Fecundity I have transeferred the island of Bjornoya to Norwegian control.

In Fecundity I have transeferred the island of Bjornoya to Norwegian control.
Confirmed.

In Fecundity I have transeferred the island of Bjornoya to Norwegian control.

If you don't mind answering, what this about?

*does a happy dance*

Two of my biggest goals on E2 were just accomplished. I united the old Sultanate of Al Bahrayn, stretching from Kuwait to Oman. At the same time, I got every square inch of the Persian Gulf. My own little Mare Nostrum. Kinda pales in comparison to Lay's ownership of the entire North Atlantic, but there's always the Arabian Sea...unfortunately, most of it is friendly territory. Varsola there may just be an invasion force with your name on it.


EDIT-Lay, the Sri Lanka map has no labels

TLS-Can I trade either Monaco or my smidgen of Antarctica for Indian province D?

I've already given up alot of India, and I would rather not give up anymore.

Well RP'ing as an insurgent or rebel group or an internal political group and such would pretty much require the permission of someone of that land. Technically nobody has to give you land but many of the people will give you some if you ask nice enough.

Ah, thanks. Never met someone so nice on these forums!

http://download.sovmusic.ru/m/saintwar.mp3

I could, perhaps, give you something.

I'd have to dwell on what first though.

Can I have back New Britain Island and the Kermandec Islands? I never gave them up but they seem to have been lost in the updates.

RomeW and Neuvo Rica have reached a land deal:

Rome gets:

Provinces 1 and 6 in Sudan (Northern and Khartoum)

Neuvo Rica gets:

Provinces 12 and 27 in Brazil (Minas Gerais and Brasilia)

Bjornoya = 1.003 B peoples as of an hour ago, yeah for me.

Oh, NR check TGs

Sao Tome & Principe Annexed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465916)

Hayord, would you like Armenia and my part of Georgia?

Just thought I'd also mention a few things that would make EII better. First of all a list of all the alliances and members, second of all a factbook for each nation (I'm working on mine) which would state such things as they're nations politics, whether they are nuclear capable, and other statements about how technologically advanced they are. Also, do you think we could stop claiming territories all over the world and anyway, and try and group our territories? Ok, maybe I do sound a bit hypocritical after my possible invasion of South America, but that's part of a plan, as I intended to give it away as well as my other land (see above post) to new members, to try and give them a foothold in the game instead of them claiming an insignificant atoll in the middle of nowhere, and then them realising they have no real power, and getting bored, and leaving. Just my thoughts. I'd just like to add that anything I say IC doesn't reflect how I feel OOC, for example IC I hate Cotland, but OOC I don't really know him, but he seems cool, and his posts and RPS are always well constructed and well thought through, even if a lot of them involve attacking me.

As long as the factbook is short and sweet. No need for 3 pages when all thatll due is No i dont have nuclear weapons. Also if people could stick by their NS catagories. Dont mean to rant if i am but when people have political freedoms 'unheard of' but they say their democratic, thats just wrong.

Why would we limit ourselves this way? What NS says doesn't matter, what we say on jolt matters.

Why would we limit ourselves this way? What NS says doesn't matter, what we say on jolt matters.

Agreed.

Factbook - the Kingdom of Norway (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=66)

Order of Battle - Royal Norwegian Military (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59)

Just thought I'd also mention a few things that would make EII better. First of all a list of all the alliances and members, second of all a factbook for each nation (I'm working on mine) which would state such things as they're nations politics, whether they are nuclear capable, and other statements about how technologically advanced they are. Also, do you think we could stop claiming territories all over the world and anyway, and try and group our territories? Ok, maybe I do sound a bit hypocritical after my possible invasion of South America, but that's part of a plan, as I intended to give it away as well as my other land (see above post) to new members, to try and give them a foothold in the game instead of them claiming an insignificant atoll in the middle of nowhere, and then them realising they have no real power, and getting bored, and leaving. Just my thoughts. I'd just like to add that anything I say IC doesn't reflect how I feel OOC, for example IC I Cotland, but OOC I don't really know him, but he seems cool, and his posts and RPS are always well constructed and well thought through, even if a lot of them involve attacking me.
I would agree with the list of alliances, and the list of factbooks. It would make Earth II seem less...big.
Not sure what you mean about the stop claiming territories and 'grouping'. Please elaborate.

Seeing as how I control half of Liberia, I'm giving Pushka joint control of the capital port of Monrovia in return for political support.

Also, for all of you vultures that took over Australia in my absence: I'm coming for you soon with my shiny air force and navy... ^_^

Without further waiting i decided to make the base exchanges between me and Neuvo Rica official here:e

I get:

Port: Fortaleza, Brazil;
Military Base: Omdurman, Sudan; Manaus, Brazil;

Neuvo Rica gets:

Port: Yamalian coast, Russia;
Military base: Krasnoyarsk, Russia; Moscow, Russia;

Neuvo Rica do you confirm?

Seeing as how I control half of Liberia, I'm giving Pushka joint control of the capital port of Monrovia in return for political support.

Also, for all of you vultures that took over Australia in my absence: I'm coming for you soon with my shiny air force and navy... ^_^

Sure you will...

Sure you will...

Yes I will. >_>

For reference, I pack some of the better aircraft technology in EII. Examples:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465764
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=454946

Tyrandis, keep in mind that you've got a very small part of the world to support your entire population here on E2, so while you have outstanding military hardware, you don't really have that many people to operate that military hardware. Any attempts to put armies with hundreds of thousands of people will result in me ignoring it. Just so you know.

Its not really up to you to decide what population he may or may not have, just let it go man, play the game fairly don't shoot the guy down because of a technicality, technically if he manages resources correctly he can uphold a 100 plus million population on that strip of land, so just let it go. Taking away the chance of winning a war against you simply because they don't have enough land is simply ridiculus.

Its not really up to you to decide what population he may or may not have, just let it go man, play the game fairly don't shoot the guy down because of a technicality.
Just trying to keep it at least a little realistic. It is limited how many millions he can pop into Liberia which isn't all that large after all. If he sends 20 fleets and 10 000 aircraft (exaggarated, I know but whatever), I'm ignoring it. Just so you guys are aware...

Well i am pretty sure you can't just ignore him invading you, atleast there should be a rule against this kind of thing. This is ridiculus, you basically saying that he can't touch you because he doesn't have enough land, thats an RP killer more so then a nuke attack.

Basically, I'm saying that if he sends more people in the invasion force than his territory could possibly be able to support, I'm considering that godmodding. End of discussion.

Basically what i am saying is you can do whatever you want, but nobody else has to recognize that. Infact if you deny someone the right to defeat you because of a small technicality you'll be the one GodModding, so this is a situation you'll need an EII mod to resolve, preferrably someone who is likely to be unbiased like Marimia.

Basically, I'm saying that if he sends more people in the invasion force than his territory could possibly be able to support, I'm considering that godmodding. End of discussion.

By this type of strained logic, you could claim all of EII is godmodding because the Earth itself couldn't possibly sustain however many billions of people are in here. :rolleyes:

I'll have more manpower and materiel in any case to throw at Australia than you will simply because my armed services have one objective, while you're stuck defending all the land you have. And if you try to move guys to defend the continent, I'll be flattening your now-undefended cities with thermobaric vacuum weaponry... >_>

Thats Bullshit (sorry for outburst). look at my ns country. Its got one of the best Gov's in Earth II. Since im one of the smallest countries in EII thats a huge advantage. I think you should have to live with what you chose. Or esle i could say i got 5 billion people.

I agree with not limiting your self but stick by a few things. To be fair.

Office of the Coast Guard
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
***For Immediate Release***

Due to the ever changing climate in Europe we have decided to limit the White Sea Canal to Civilian traffic only. The current fee for transversing the Canal will be raised from $2.50/per metric ton to $3.50/per metric ton. In addition to this no vessels will be allowed to transport ammunition, weapons of war, or military supplies through the canal. Any vessel attempting to do so will warrant an immediate blacklisting of that countries shipping and all vessels from said nation will be denied access to the canal. Any attempts to covertly ship the above mentioned items through the canal with altered Manifests will also warrant a blacklisting.

All countries sailing the Baltic Sea should recognize the 24 nautical mile range of our Coastal Waterway. Vessels failing to file the necessary papers required for entry into Hawdawg Territorial Waters will be warned, asked to leave, and if they fail to do so will promptly be sunk. Repeated violations will result in an increasingly aggressive response. This includes both surface and subsurface vessels. All vessels must file a notice of making a Hawdawg Port of Call with that respective Coast Guard Harbor Master 24 hours prior to arrival.

When vessels both Civilian and Military pass the Straits between The Reich and Hawdawg Sweden they must remain in the duly marked international waterway. Any vessel veering out of that channel will be escorted from Territorial waters by a Coast Guard Vessel. This rule applies to surface and subsurface vessels. It is asked that all vessels transversing the Straits to notify the Hawdawg Coast Guard of your intentions upon arrival into the Baltic Sea so we may assist you in your travels.

We have enacted these new rules based on the increasing volume of shipping traffic expected to develop over the next six months.

Signed,

Rear Admiral Joseph Peterson
Commandant, Hawdawg Coast Guard

Is DRC still open, because i want it.

Where's the White Sea Canal?

Official Response

The Kingdom has recieved the Hawdawgian decree, and have after close review decided to respect and obey it, as it is a reasonable and fair decree.

- signed -
Royal Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Where's the White Sea Canal?
Russia.

Where's the White Sea Canal?

The Sea North of the Karelia Republic is the White Sea. The Canal runs through the middle of the Karelia Republic down into St. Petersburg and opens up into the Baltic Sea. The Kingdom of Norway orginally constructed the canal.

-Hawdawg

Seeing as how I control half of Liberia, I'm giving Pushka joint control of the capital port of Monrovia in return for political support.

Also, for all of you vultures that took over Australia in my absence: I'm coming for you soon with my shiny air force and navy... ^_^

Pfft, I don't think you can support much of an Air Force or Navy with half of Liberia :p.

Pfft, I don't think you can support much of an Air Force or Navy with half of Liberia :p.

Oh for god's sake, I have the economy + pop to support it, so why the hell can't I use a massive, disciplined, technologically superior armed service to recapture my former territory? Y'know, we wouldn't have these problems if I was allowed to bloody fight for my land in the first place, but I understand the logic behind Lay's rules.

In any case, if you guys are still going to keep hinging your arguments on this nonissue, TN has agreed to transfer a rather generous quantity of land in return for prod rights to various things I build.

TNN News Alert
In a remarkable turn of events Emperor Alec Takenski, at the age of 86, has stepped down as emperor of Teh Ninjas due to old age. He has named his son Jon Takenski to take up his throne. In a news conference the new emperor promised to lower crimes rates and improve security and job oppurtunities for all Ninjanian citizens. Some of the Emperor's earliest actions were:
To bestoy the honoray title Duke to the former emperor.
To keep all appointed officials already in office.
To go into negotiations with other nations to unite the empire.

Further information on this topic will be provided in the next hour. Now back to the originally scheduled program.

Oh for god's sake, I have the economy + pop to support it, so why the hell can't I use a massive, disciplined, technologically superior armed service to recapture my former territory? Y'know, we wouldn't have these problems if I was allowed to bloody fight for my land in the first place, but I understand the logic behind Lay's rules.

In any case, if you guys are still going to keep hinging your arguments on this nonissue, TN has agreed to transfer a rather generous quantity of land in return for prod rights to various things I build.

I know, I know, I was kiding. That's the one thing I find un-realistic about EII; even if you control...well, have of Liberia, you can have a population of a couple billion and be a military power.

The Sea North of the Karelia Republic is the White Sea. The Canal runs through the middle of the Karelia Republic down into St. Petersburg and opens up into the Baltic Sea. The Kingdom of Norway orginally constructed the canal.

-Hawdawg

Who has controll of it? You hawdawg? If so can i transport my naval ships out of the Baltic through it if i pay you for each crossing?

--EDIT--

Oh nvm, just read your decree on the last page, nice timing. Well atleast i don't have to negotiate with Cotland for him to let my merchant shipping out, thats a good thing.

VCO members check forums lets get the base exchange thing over with

Who has controll of it? You hawdawg? If so can i transport my naval ships out of the Baltic through it if i pay you for each crossing?

--EDIT--

Oh nvm, just read your decree on the last page, nice timing. Well atleast i don't have to negotiate with Cotland for him to let my merchant shipping out, thats a good thing.

I control the canal. I am not allowing any military vessels through the canal period, except mine of course (which is rarely done). Merchant traffic is perfectly fine, as long as no military hardware is on the manifest. Staples like oil, raw materials, food stuffs, etc. and all other legitimate commodities are strongly encouraged to transverse through the canal. Just keep everything between the navigational bouys, no straying off course.

-Hawdawg

RomeW and Neuvo Rica have reached a land deal:

Rome gets:

Provinces 1 and 6 in Sudan (Northern and Khartoum)

Neuvo Rica gets:

Provinces 12 and 27 in Brazil (Minas Gerais and Brasilia)

It was supposed to be 1, 2, 3 and 6 in Sudan for 12 and 27 in Brazil.

Is DRC still open, because i want it.

Split between myself and Hirgizstan.

Office of the Coast Guard
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
***For Immediate Release***

Due to the ever changing climate in Europe we have decided to limit the White Sea Canal to Civilian traffic only. The current fee for transversing the Canal will be raised from $2.50/per metric ton to $3.50/per metric ton. In addition to this no vessels will be allowed to transport ammunition, weapons of war, or military supplies through the canal. Any vessel attempting to do so will warrant an immediate blacklisting of that countries shipping and all vessels from said nation will be denied access to the canal. Any attempts to covertly ship the above mentioned items through the canal with altered Manifests will also warrant a blacklisting.

All countries sailing the Baltic Sea should recognize the 24 nautical mile range of our Coastal Waterway. Vessels failing to file the necessary papers required for entry into Hawdawg Territorial Waters will be warned, asked to leave, and if they fail to do so will promptly be sunk. Repeated violations will result in an increasingly aggressive response. This includes both surface and subsurface vessels. All vessels must file a notice of making a Hawdawg Port of Call with that respective Coast Guard Harbor Master 24 hours prior to arrival.

When vessels both Civilian and Military pass the Straits between The Reich and Hawdawg Sweden they must remain in the duly marked international waterway. Any vessel veering out of that channel will be escorted from Territorial waters by a Coast Guard Vessel. This rule applies to surface and subsurface vessels. It is asked that all vessels transversing the Straits to notify the Hawdawg Coast Guard of your intentions upon arrival into the Baltic Sea so we may assist you in your travels.

We have enacted these new rules based on the increasing volume of shipping traffic expected to develop over the next six months.

Signed,

Rear Admiral Joseph Peterson
Commandant, Hawdawg Coast Guard

Official Response From the P.F.B.

We hereby announce our support and respect for this enactment. The White Sea Canal has the potential to provide a dangerous entrance to the Bjornoyan mainland, and we are relieved to see it will be used for merchant vessels only.

Office of the Coast Guard
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
***For Immediate Release***

Due to the ever changing climate in Europe we have decided to limit the White Sea Canal to Civilian traffic only. The current fee for transversing the Canal will be raised from $2.50/per metric ton to $3.50/per metric ton. In addition to this no vessels will be allowed to transport ammunition, weapons of war, or military supplies through the canal. Any vessel attempting to do so will warrant an immediate blacklisting of that countries shipping and all vessels from said nation will be denied access to the canal. Any attempts to covertly ship the above mentioned items through the canal with altered Manifests will also warrant a blacklisting.

All countries sailing the Baltic Sea should recognize the 24 nautical mile range of our Coastal Waterway. Vessels failing to file the necessary papers required for entry into Hawdawg Territorial Waters will be warned, asked to leave, and if they fail to do so will promptly be sunk. Repeated violations will result in an increasingly aggressive response. This includes both surface and subsurface vessels. All vessels must file a notice of making a Hawdawg Port of Call with that respective Coast Guard Harbor Master 24 hours prior to arrival.

When vessels both Civilian and Military pass the Straits between The Reich and Hawdawg Sweden they must remain in the duly marked international waterway. Any vessel veering out of that channel will be escorted from Territorial waters by a Coast Guard Vessel. This rule applies to surface and subsurface vessels. It is asked that all vessels transversing the Straits to notify the Hawdawg Coast Guard of your intentions upon arrival into the Baltic Sea so we may assist you in your travels.

We have enacted these new rules based on the increasing volume of shipping traffic expected to develop over the next six months.

Signed,

Rear Admiral Joseph Peterson
Commandant, Hawdawg Coast Guard

We recognize this law and shall respect it.

-Russian Federation, Ministry of Foreign Relations

Looked over the claim list and noticed a trade I did a while back with Soviet Bloc did not go through on my half:

I traded him Arkansas and Louisiana (minus SE Louisiana) to Soviet Bloc for Idaho and Colorado. SB already has AR and LA, but I do not have ID and CO, so I need this corrected.

Here to confirm. Yeah, it shows on the USA map the changes but not on the claims list. Although, I don't mind having two additional territories... Hehe. Nah, they're RomeW's.

Here to confirm. Yeah, it shows on the USA map the changes but not on the claims list. Although, I don't mind having two additional territories... Hehe. Nah, they're RomeW's.

Thanks. :)

Can I ask how the leg's doing?

Not too bad... I got my prosthetic leg two weeks ago, I think. Started PT last week and am so far doing really well. Still can't walk without aid [went from walker to crutches to forearm crutches and will probably soon use a cane], but my therapists told me I've done more in my three sessions than three weeks worth for everyone else. I think its going good, I definately need to rebuild my strength as three months of hopping around doesn't do you much.

And I'm still waiting on insurance money... And when I get that, new pickup for me, as well as most of the rest into an IRA.


Also, I guess I'm a perfect candidate for the C-Leg. North Dakota won't allow for it to be paid by insurance, but I may be able to get it with the right letters and correspondence. They won't allow it because they don't thinks its 'necessary and proper' [everyone knows how that goes]. But since I'm young and had my leg removed due to trauma [instead of diabetes or some other disease], there's a good chance I could get one covered by insurance... I'll see how that goes.


Everything else is going pretty good, no complaints!

On Official Business:

The Doctrine of Authority (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10326190#post10326190)

Not too bad... I got my prosthetic leg two weeks ago, I think. Started PT last week and am so far doing really well. Still can't walk without aid [went from walker to crutches to forearm crutches and will probably soon use a cane], but my therapists told me I've done more in my three sessions than three weeks worth for everyone else. I think its going good, I definately need to rebuild my strength as three months of hopping around doesn't do you much.

And I'm still waiting on insurance money... And when I get that, new pickup for me, as well as most of the rest into an IRA.


Also, I guess I'm a perfect candidate for the C-Leg. North Dakota won't allow for it to be paid by insurance, but I may be able to get it with the right letters and correspondence. They won't allow it because they don't thinks its 'necessary and proper' [everyone knows how that goes]. But since I'm young and had my leg removed due to trauma [instead of diabetes or some other disease], there's a good chance I could get one covered by insurance... I'll see how that goes.


Everything else is going pretty good, no complaints!

That's wonderful news- you probably could come up to Canada and get the leg for free. What's the C-Leg like?

Its a computerized leg with its own computer which monitors your gait and how you walk to automatically adjust itself. It also varies the pressure and resistance to allow for stuff you can't do with a hydraulic knee. Also, it has the ability to store different 'modes' so you tap its foot three times and it'll beep and switch to a presaved mode [such as one with no resistance for bicycling, or one with complete resistance for a job that requires you to stand all day... or the ability to apply just some pressure and have the leg articulate the foot (for like a pilot or someone who drives a manual-transmission vehicle)]. Really neat, but it costs twice as much as the most expensive hydraulic knee [mine cost about $20,000 and is the best hydraulic knee available; that cost includes the $8000 carbon fiber socket].

It'd be nice for me since it allows to automatically adjust your gait [such as if you're trudging through a field, soft soil, or heavy snow; which i'm certain to face] and allows you to walk up and down noticeable inclines normally [not sideways]. And going down stairs normally [which I could do with a hydraulic knee but it'd take practice; and with the C-Leg it comes 'natural'].

It was supposed to be 1, 2, 3 and 6 in Sudan for 12 and 27 in Brazil.


Sorry, I forgot to post up the base exchange - would you rather have an army base at El Geneina in Western Sudan? RomeW now owns the north and east of the country. Sorry for any confusion.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465916

this RP request got buried

Quick Question Who Owns Florida I wanna have a talk with him About An Idea I had

Quick Question Who Owns Florida I wanna have a talk with him About An Idea I had
Go die.

I am granting Neuvo Rica Sierra Leone in Exchange for the Sao Tome and Principe.

Swimbabwe, shut up, you certainly don't own Florida, so don't say anything.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465916

this RP request got buried

Neuvo Rica, do you confirm the base transfers i posted two pages ago? Also can i swap you an additional military base near say Voronej for a port in Sierra Leone?

This Terronian fellow. Is he still on Earth II? I didn't find his name on the claims list, but it's on the Australia map. If he's not, I'm claiming South Australia!

Sorry, I forgot to post up the base exchange - would you rather have an army base at El Geneina in Western Sudan? RomeW now owns the north and east of the country. Sorry for any confusion.

I confirm it, except I made a deal with RomeW that means your Sudan base may have to be in the west of the country, not Khartoum. I'm trading it with RomeW for Brazilian territory.

I confirm that trade Bjornoya.

I'm putting my parts of Afghanistan (see below) up for sale. Just so it's clear, I won't sell to Pushka. Everyone else, please give your bids. The bidding starts at $1 billion per province, and ends in roughly 24 hours (2100 CET), and as usual, the highest bid gets the territories.

Let the frenzy commence!

************************************

Baghlan
Balkh
Bamiyan/Daikondi
Ghazni
Ghowr
Jowzjan
Kabul
Khost
Kondoz
Lowgar
Oruzgan
Paktia
Paktia/Pansjir
Parvan
Samangan
Sar-e-Pol
Takhar
Vardak
Zabol

Haha, what a prick. Kid you really need to grow up, this whole
"i hate Pushka" thing is getting taken by you to the kindergarten level. Either way you're posting in bettering relations thread any time soon?

I confirm it, except I made a deal with RomeW that means your Sudan base may have to be in the west of the country, not Khartoum. I'm trading it with RomeW for Brazilian territory.

I confirm that trade Bjornoya.

Alrighty i'll take that. So what about a naval port in Sierra Leone? I'll pay you in money if you don't want a base near Voronej or another port in Yamalia.

This Terronian fellow. Is he still on Earth II? I didn't find his name on the claims list, but it's on the Australia map. If he's not, I'm claiming South Australia!

Do you want a war with Tyrandis? You know what, whatever, i have did all i could to try to atleast postpone it, nobody can blame me for anything. I just hope that Tyrandis can claim it before you can take care of your territoy limit issue.

Swimbabwe, shut up, you certainly don't own Florida, so don't say anything.
ok sory just wish ppl wuldnt talk lyk this an ignor what weveb en screemin at them sinc day 1 but u do ur thing and ill du mine k?

ok sory just wish ppl wuldnt talk lyk this an ignor what weveb en screemin at them sinc day 1 but u do ur thing and ill du mine k?

No, you do things our way or you get trampled by massive multi-national armies, thats how it works in E2. Ask Pantheaa, he knows.

Way to recognize the joke.

Y'all don't need to assume the offensive so quickly. I was only joking. That's allowed, isn't it?

Way to recognize the joke.

Y'all don't need to assume the offensive so quickly. I was only joking. That's allowed, isn't it?

No, no joking allowed, only long-winded semi-coherent rants. Next time I hear a joke from you or any of your kind its off to the shiny red button.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10329240#post10329240

Боевые Учения в Балтийском море [Earth II]

Just some exercises in the Baltic

No, no joking allowed, only long-winded semi-coherent rants. Next time I hear a joke from you or any of your kind its off to the shiny red button.
Noted ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10329442#post10329442

Freedom to Choose

@Lay: transfer the Taymaria OAK to Turetel please.

Baghlan
Balkh
Bamiyan/Daikondi
Ghazni
Ghowr
Jowzjan
Kabul
Khost
Kondoz
Lowgar
Oruzgan
Paktia
Paktia/Pansjir
Parvan
Samangan
Sar-e-Pol
Takhar
Vardak
Zabol

$2 billion per.

Also Cotland Terronia is on the claims list (do a Ctrl+F search on him) and the last time he was online was yesterday. He isn't D12 yet and he is a 4 billion+ nation.

Also Cotland Terronia is on the claims list (do a Ctrl+F search on him) and the last time he was online was yesterday. He isn't D12 yet and he is a 4 billion+ nation.
Ah. Thanks for pointing it out. Must have gone temporarily blind there for a moment. Ignore my claim then.

5 billion per (if TLS will let me get to them, although I smell a bidding war), plus a base anywhere that isnt the Persian Gulf.

$6 billion per.

5 billion per (if TLS will let me get to them, although I smell a bidding war), plus a base anywhere that isnt the Persian Gulf.

I'm fine with you getting it.

But I'll give 10 billion per.

Should we split the territories then? We're all in the same alliance.

Pushka how many of your citizens are in my country at this present time?

Should we split the territories then? We're all in the same alliance.

Why not make it RC territory? Like, belonging to all of us?

Could someone give me a ruling on my population size, please?

Could someone give me a ruling on my population size, please?

There are no rules pertaining to population limits, sizes, etc. nor do I think there will be, ever. The main crucial point = no godmodding. I don't think we've had a case of godmodding in E2 except for DA/Kahta and Mac but who knows. Other than that, I'm done.

Pre-emptivelly resolve a potential dispute: Bjornoyan claims to St. Helena include islands of Tristan, Nightengale, Gough, and Inaccesible

Bjornoyan claims to Equitorial Guinea includes Fernadno Poo and Annobon

Bjornoya makes the claim to South Georgia Island, the surrounding South Sandwich Islands, Fernando de Noronha, and St. Paul Rocks since they haven't been claimed yet.

Why not make it RC territory? Like, belonging to all of us?

Works...although I really want Balkh (i.e., ancient Bactria)

EDIT- I rock! (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EarthIILandArea.html)

Open Message to Tyrandis

It is very disturbing that you plan to invade Norwegian Australia. Rest assured we will not stand for such aggression and will throw our might into defend the Realm of Norway. You actions will dictate our response. Tread lightly for a formidable force will await your doomed conquest.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

EDIT- I rock! (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EarthIILandArea.html)

Impressive... if I keep claiming these unknown island territories I'll catch up in no time.

Works...although I really want Balkh (i.e., ancient Bactria)

EDIT- I rock! (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EarthIILandArea.html)

It is true that the Roman Empire should be the largest in the world. However, the Layartebian Empire is a mere 90,000 square miles shy. UER isn't far behind either. This combined armada means only one thing. We're destined to pwn you all :).

It is true that the Roman Empire should be the largest in the world. However, the Layartebian Empire is a mere 90,000 square miles shy. UER isn't far behind either. This combined armada means only one thing. We're destined to pwn you all :).

Not if I nuke the ice caps, then we all die.

Not if I nuke the ice caps, then we all die.

True this is.

Not if I nuke the ice caps, then we all die.

Don't do that, Orange hair isn't becoming in Alaska.

What's Population Bracket, RomeW? Awesome spreadsheet!

Works...although I really want Balkh (i.e., ancient Bactria)

EDIT- I rock! (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EarthIILandArea.html)
Congrats on becoming the largest nation in EII, Rome!

Thank you! 'Tis only fitting the greatest nation in the history of the world is also No. 1 on Earth 2.

I shall display my trophy with pride. :cool:

Legend

Red: General announcements (21-day, decree 12, etc.)
Blue: Response to your posts (claims, threads, etc.)
Green: Service announcements (to all, RPs, etc.)









Elephantum [Post 9349]: Sri Lanka changed.
Pushka [Post 9354]: Thread added.
NR/RomeW [Post 9365/9400]: Land trade adjusted. RomeW, unfortunately you have exceeded 5 million square miles :(. You'll have to cut it.
NR [Post 9367]: Thread added, claims adjusted.
Huahin [Post 9369]: Actually those are all great ideas. On the off-site forums you can see a small bio thing for each country that they should fill out in one of the forums. Factbooks are a nations' own perogative but I do think it would be a good idea. A list of alliances would also be benefical. I've always pushed for consolodation of territories, hence why mine are all (with some minor exceptions) pretty well grouped together.
USBrink [Post 9386]: Yes by all means. Basically here is how it works. You cannot claim any more population than your NS nation has. You can limit your population as you wish but that is up to you and it is not required by anyone.
RomeW/SB [Post 9404/9405]: Claims list adjusted.
RomeW [Post 9408]: Thread added.
Tonissia [Post 9412]: I own Florida. Telegram me.
Bjorn [Post 9414]: Goddamn man I just colored it for you. Fine changed.
Pushka [Post 9427]: Thread added.
Pushka [Post 9429]: Thread added. He is going to have to confirm before he gets it.






You people change land way too fast. I have to wind up doing double the work on updates. Is it possible to just hold it for a week or so? Shessh...
Base Deals: They won't affect claims listing nor will they be included in the listing so you guys can post them, it's probably a good idea, but just FYI, that's about as far as they go. I'm not putting dots on the map for every base exchanged.

Sorry Lay, might not be the best time to bring up the new islands in the South Atlantic...

Why do people insist on inciting rebellions in the areas most loyal to Layarteb City rather than the areas where they aren't.

Sorry Lay, might not be the best time to bring up the new islands in the South Atlantic...

What new islands? :rolleyes:

What new islands? :rolleyes:

Bjornoya makes the claim to South Georgia Island, the surrounding South Sandwich Islands, Fernando de Noronha, and St. Paul Rocks since they haven't been claimed yet.

Bjornoya makes the claim to South Georgia Island, the surrounding South Sandwich Islands, Fernando de Noronha, and St. Paul Rocks since they haven't been claimed yet.

South Georgia Island and South Sandwich Islands would be part of the UK since they were never separated and individually claimed. Fernando de Noronha and St. Paul's Rocks are part of the Brazilian state of Pernambuco, whomever owns that.

South Georgia Island and South Sandwich Islands would be part of the UK since they were never separated and individually claimed. Fernando de Noronha and St. Paul's Rocks are part of the Brazilian state of Pernambuco, whomever owns that.

So what times do I need to claim the various islands that are grouped with the territories I own, just if they're already seperated? I'm sure there's a lot of islands off the coast of Africa, I don't need to go through the hassel of claiming them all its just assumed they're under my control right? Like Bioko came under my control immediately when I claimed E. Guinea?

Fernando de Noronha and St. Paul's Rocks are part of the Brazilian state of Pernambuco, whomever owns that.

Which would be me.

As far as removing claims go:

1) "Southern Corridor (US)" can be removed, since that refers to California and I have that anyway.
2) I care not for the "Northern Province" in Sudan. It's just desert (that and I need space if I'm going to get Balkh).

oh oh oh oh
Can i have that land Rome, at least the California land

oh oh oh oh
Can i have that land Rome, at least the California land
No. :p

Thank you! 'Tis only fitting the greatest nation in the history of the world is also No. 1 on Earth 2.

I shall display my trophy with pride. :cool:

I think I used to have that trophy. meh I still have more people than you.

I think I used to have that trophy. meh I still have more people than you.

Doubtful. All your land is in the North really. The only Arctic/Anarctic territory I have is Ellesmere Island- the rest is all either temperate or tropical.

As far as removing claims go:

1) "Southern Corridor (US)" can be removed, since that refers to California and I have that anyway.
2) I care not for the "Northern Province" in Sudan. It's just desert (that and I need space if I'm going to get Balkh).

If you don't mind, I'd quite like the northern province back:)

Is the bidding still open Cotland? I'd raise the bid to $20 Billion Per

Works...although I really want Balkh (i.e., ancient Bactria)

EDIT- I rock! (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EarthIILandArea.html)

I want all of Afghanistan; since I control the rest of it and Tajikistan, so you're lucky I'm not planning to get it by force...Not from you, of course, but from Cotland.

I would like to claim the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, as they belong as much to the UK, as Greenland does to Denmark, and as someone claiming Denmark does not get Greenland, I assume that the owner of the UK does not own these territories.

I would like to claim the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, as they belong as much to the UK, as Greenland does to Denmark, and as someone claiming Denmark does not get Greenland, I assume that the owner of the UK does not own these territories.

Me likes your logic!

So what times do I need to claim the various islands that are grouped with the territories I own, just if they're already seperated? I'm sure there's a lot of islands off the coast of Africa, I don't need to go through the hassel of claiming them all its just assumed they're under my control right? Like Bioko came under my control immediately when I claimed E. Guinea?

Yes that wasn't a separate claim so yes. The way it works is you generally get everything associated with that land except if it is otherwise claimed in other parts. Take the Caribbean for example. All of the Caribbean was grouped really by island and the Lesser Antilles, which included territory from the UK and France. Samtonia or whomever owned it all so technically it was a separate claim and it stayed that way. Individual claims have been reacquired by the main nation over time; however, they usually remain individuallized on the spreadsheet for future selling.

Ok, that makes sense. As for the UK, isn't it split between NG and Hawdawg, so who would technically own all the countless island chains that belong to the UK?

No because the Channel Islands and Isle of Man are autonomous and have their own governments.

No because the Channel Islands and Isle of Man are autonomous and have their own governments.
So does Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. They are still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Of course, you could always attempt an invasion and see what happens.

The Scottish and Welsh Governments are devolved from the main British Government in London, whilst the Manx Government has been in existance for ages. I think you'll find you cannot argue against my claim, as you'll find that whilst the UK is in the EU, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man isn't.

Autonomous or not, they're a part of the United Kingdom IRL (hence a part of Hawdawg here on E2).

Huahin is right about the Isle of Mann actually. It is not part of the UK or the Commonwealth of GB and NI, it is actually a sovereign nation. It has a Monetary Agreement with the UK and a Defense Agreement, but it is not actually part of the UK. The Channel Islands, are actually part of the UK though, but they are devolved, like Wales and Scotland, and exempt from UK tax rates, but they, unlike the IOM, are not sovereign.

Ah. So he's just able to nab the Isle of Man then. Right-o! *draws up invasion plans*

On a completely different note, the time till the end of the auction is now down to 90 minutes! Current highest bidder is Nuevo Rica with $20 billion per province.

To quote wikipedia The Channel Islands fall into two separate self-governing bailiwicks. Both the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Bailiwick of Jersey are British crown dependencies, but neither is part of the United Kingdom.
So Channel Islands are mine too.

To quote wikipedia
So Channel Islands are mine too.

As I recall Pantheaa tried this a while back (claiming these islands) and both NG and Hawdawg said they'd declare war, just FYI

Indeed. And I'll help them out, just so you're clear about that.

Jeesh, you're just going to invade me for claiming those territories? You know I'm British, and I just thought it would be nice to have some Crown Dependances or what have you. But I suppose I do have Rockall, so if you have any land in the North Atlantic/Artic, I would be glad to trade.

Jeesh, you're just going to invade me for claiming those territories? You know I'm British, and I just thought it would be nice to have some Crown Dependances or what have you. But I suppose I do have Rockall, so if you have any land in the North Atlantic/Artic, I would be glad to trade.
Only areas I'm not letting go.

On a different note,

20

minutes untill the end of the auction. Nuevo Rica is still the leader with $20 billion offered per province. Will anyone outbid him, or will he get it? Come on folks. Give me yer bids!

$25 billion per province.

Duley noted. The bid is now $25 billion per, courtesy of Rome. Any higher?

35 billion per!

A special note on Afghanistan:

I'm bidding on the whole thing, but if I don't get the whole thing I at least want Balkh. I have something planned for that territory.

$35 noted on Eleph.

alright, how about 35b everywhere but Balkh, where Rome will still have to bid

In light of Elephantum's bid

New bid (EDIT):

-$200 billion per province for Balkh, Jowsjan and Samargan (sp?- it's supposed to be Afghanistan provinces 4, 12 and 28)

So noted. $200B bid on Balkh, Jowsjan and Samargan, $40B bid on the rest.

5 minutes remaining

So noted. $200B bid on Balkh, Jowsjan and Samargan, $40B bid on the rest.

5 minutes remaining
I'm withdrawing my bid for the rest of the provinces. I just want Balkh, Jowsjan and Samargan (which would create the ancient kingdom of Bactria)

You want #30 as well? 41b per for the rest.

Dog darned it.

Rome: $200B for Balkh, Jowsjan and Samargan
Eleph: $41B per province for the rest

You want #30 as well? 41b per for the rest.
Sure.

Add that to my $200 billion per bid

(anyway, I gotta run!)

And the bidding has ended!

Results

The following provinces goes to Elephantum for $41 billion each (total sum: $615 billion)


Baghlan
Bamiyan/Daikondi
Ghazni
Ghowr
Kabul
Khost
Kondoz
Lowgar
Oruzgan
Paktia
Paktia/Pansjir
Parvan
Sar-e-Pol
Vardak
Zabol


The following areas go to Rome for $200 billion.


Balkh
Jowzjan
Samangan
Takhar


Guys, please confirm and make sure I've got it right.

Bugger it

The following areas go to Rome for $200 billion.


Balkh
Jowzjan
Samangan
Takhar


Confirm.

Confirm-atized

ACTHUNG! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10336504&postcount=7) This posting is reproduced below in what matters.

Layarteb City

The Emperor sat at his desk. His speech for the evening was something that would be broadcast around the world, especially in Europe. "Good evening ladies and gentlemen of the Empire. It is my pleasure to speak to all of you this evening." He smiled. "This evening I can announce that the Empire is taking a step towards the preservation of our safety and our security.

"I have ordered a build-up of our military forces in Norway, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, the Caribbean, and Europe. Threats from the Russian Federation have prompted us to entertain the notion of pre-emption. I agree this is a very unworthy time for this but I must digress. We signed a treaty with the Russian Federation, a Non-Aggression Pact, which we do not believe they have any intention of honoring. We must be prepared if they do. The Empire will not be caught by surprise when tanks and helicopters of the Russian Federation sweep over the borders into the lands of our allies.

"Moreover, we also turn our attention to the Pacific. The Tyrandi government, in a seemingly unknown and secretive alliance with the Russian Federation, has been making threats against our Norwegian allies and their land in Australia. We will not stand idly by as our allies, who have shown time and time again that they will die for us, are threatened. The Empire will not allow those in the world to threaten the balance of power that exists.

"The Empire calls out to all nations of the world who seek peace, enjoy the status quo, and dislike the dishonesty and lack of integrity of these two nations to unite under the banner of sovereignty. World War II cannot happen. World War I was nothing to speak of in light nor shall World War II be something to speak of period. Ladies and gentlemen, should World War II break out, it has the potential to cause worldwide catastrophe on a scale so great as to kill billions. We cannot stand idly by and let that many innocents die.

"The integrity and the honor of the Empire shall be preserved at all costs and at all times. Thank you and have a good evening."

Response from The P.F.B.

Should any nation threaten to destabilize the fragile peace within our African sphere of influence by instigating war Bjornoya will not hesitate to use force to protect its citizens and the status quo.