NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay...with the WC and CoH having now wrapped up, how soon will we see the new rankings?

Since Veph has taken over doing the rankings again, I wouldn't expect to see the official ones until the new year.

It's not that hard to update the sheet, just moving things over a CoH/WC and adding in the new ones.

great, get to see how far i have fallen after a disastrous Cup of Harmony

Same here and a horrid qualifing run.... Let that be a lesson to ya! don't drop out for 2 cups before you try to come back, I was up in around 35-45 until i dropped down to 67th before the CoH. and with that disatster behind me i might fall into into the low 70's.

Jeru FC did quite well in the CoH! I hoping I can get them into top 30 in WC40.

I prolly won't be able to get them out before the weekend, but if no one can do them before then I prolly can do them.

WCC Presidential Nominations Open now!

I nominate Vephrall if he wants it.

Okay, so I return to work on the ranks...

Here are the rankings after WC38 (and CoH30):

For Open Office (link for the download page) (http://www.fileshost.com/en/file/22310/Official-Post-WC38-Ranks-ods.html)

For Excel (yes, don't need to complain anymore!) - (link for the download page) (http://www.fileshost.com/en/file/22313/Official-Post-WC-38-Rankings-xls.html)

If you find a mistake, tell us.

Crazy but true:

I won every game but one draw during qualifying and won the world cup and there was still a team, ESF, who earned more points than me in world cup 38.

Here are the rankings after WC38 (and CoH30)

Top 20! Woo! Thanks for doing the rankings, Caf!

Okay, so I return to work on the ranks...

Here are the rankings after WC38 (and CoH30):

For Open Office (link for the download page) (http://www.fileshost.com/en/file/22310/Official-Post-WC38-Ranks-ods.html)

For Excel (yes, don't need to complain anymore!) - (link for the download page) (http://www.fileshost.com/en/file/22313/Official-Post-WC-38-Rankings-xls.html)

If you find a mistake, tell us.

Where's the .pdf one?

Can someone tell me what rank St Samuel is? My computers playing up and when I follow the link I just get jargon.

And ze text version!
1 Az-cz 54.79
2 Valanora 51.50
3 Sel Appa 47.50
4 Capitalizt SLANI 47.29
5 Squornshelous 46.21
6 Ariddia 46.07
7 Tynelia 41.64
8 Zwangzug 40.21
9 Milchama 39.57
10 Demot 39.50
11 Errinundera 38.43
12 Cafundéu 37.86
13 Bettia 33.71
14 Jeruselem 31.50
15 Wentland 31.00
16 Quakmybush 28.64
17 The Holy Empire 27.71
18 Northern Bettia 27.57
19 Oliverry 26.86
20 Bostopia 24.71
21 Bazalonia 24.21
22 Qazox 22.64
23 Jasīyūn 22.57
24 Novapsolu 22.51
25 Turori 22.00
26 Yafor 2 21.37
27 Candelaria And Marquez 20.42
28 Vephrall 20.11
29 Vilita 19.43
30 Ulzaxid 19.37
31 Ad'ihan 19.29
32 Kura-Pelland 16.83
33 Geisenfried 16.43
34 The Archregimancy 16.32
35 Schiavonia 15.79
36 Lovisa 15.68
37 Dance 2 Revolution 14.99
38 Estresse Intenso 14.52
39 Kiryu-shi 14.15
40 Daehanjeiguk 13.08
41 Sorthern Northland 13.00
42 Endmile 12.56
43 St. Samuel 11.95
44 The Lowland Clans 11.64
45 Kansiov 11.00
46 Casari 10.44
47 Taeshan 10.34
48 Cookesland 9.87
49 Scotchpinestan 9.31
50 Jeru FC 8.61
51 The Islands of Qutar 8.30
52 The Pazhujeb Islands 8.30
53 Uiri 8.02
54 Minilla Island 7.43
55 Starblaydia 7.40
56 Aurendia 6.57
57 Nire and Nire 6.50
58 The HURD 6.50
59 Hopeless SC 6.28
60 Kelssek 6.17
61 Vikingholm 6.07
62 Prux 5.92
63 Rejistania 5.82
64 Sativaville 5.62
65 Green wombat 5.46
66 Oickoidia 5.29
67 Limbrogidlia 5.21
68 Solenial 5.04
69 Assegai Developments 5.00
69 Vanek Drury Brieres 5.00
71 Krytenia 4.64
72 Grotewohl 4.33
73 95X 4.26
74 Magnus Valerius 4.18
75 Swilatia 4.14
76 British Londinium 4.11
77 Miceland 4.02
78 Fmjphoenix 4.00
79 Jariss 3.99
80 Onimar 3.96
81 Bushes Been Quaked 3.93
82 San Adriano 3.89
83 Alversia 3.88
84 Kristovenia 3.85
85 Merovis 3.56
86 Vuam and Isma 3.50
87 The Non-RPing Noob 3.29
88 Patusan 3.21
89 New Brittonia 3.14
89 Recluse Island 3.14
89 Tremarendakia 3.14
92 Rugiero 3.07
93 Abu Omar 3.00
94 Atheistic Right 2.93
95 New Morrisia 2.92
95 Tuaim 2.92
97 Billopesha 2.80
98 Thundercliffe 2.70
99 Miamoria 2.64
100 Turruth Gordur 2.57
101 Jey 2.55
102 Spaam 2.36
103 Delesa 2.29
104 Bergelland 2.13
105 Mallatarsland 2.08
106 Barbeques 2.07
106 The Coshairs 2.07
108 East Lithuania 2.00
108 Konora 2.00
108 Miroxia 2.00
108 Spruitland 2.00
108 The Crescent Republic 2.00
108 The Indonesian States 2.00
114 Audioslavia 1.95
115 Rastafariburg 1.93
116 Bumiroar 1.90
117 Acapais 1.71
117 Kampfers 1.71
119 Integrite 1.64
120 Boyancy 1.57
121 Zyla 1.43
122 Bercktesgaden 1.29
122 Naleloospalakintula 1.29
124 Ikoville 1.18
125 Bellzantium 1.07
126 Keyne Island 0.93
126 TT Lake Side 0.93
128 Nebuleux 0.86
128 New Montreal States 0.86
128 Wehrmacher 0.86
128 Western Afghanistan 0.86
132 The Sons of a Monkey 0.83
133 Central Prestonia 0.79
134 Collonie 0.71
134 Planting 0.71
134 Trumanistan 0.71
137 Cebumopolis 0.64
137 Niosis 0.64
137 Thelema Abbey 0.64
140 Pinguinum 0.57
140 Tylero 0.57
142 Fargess 0.50
143 Nitrodymium 0.43
144 ARealAdvance 0.36
144 Herchimer 0.36
144 Shmibabway 0.36
147 Ambrose-Douglas 0.29
147 Kilmarnockshire 0.29
147 Randovium 0.29
147 Rangpur 0.29
147 Salkehachie 0.29
147 The Canelandic Islands 0.29
153 Homieville 0.21
153 The Comrade Emirates 0.21
155 Kedalfax 0.14
156 Niorthemme 0.07
156 Shackfold 0.07

Thnx Demot/ESF

I know that in one of my early World Cup RPs I had 'L is for... Lovisa Win' in the A to Z, but honestly I actually really meant it to be the CoH A-Z, not the World Cup one. Ahem. Honest.

Still got it right though! :D hehe

Jeru FC are 50! Cool :D

Wow! :eek: I jumped about 12 more places than I anticipated. 59th will hopefully make me remotely competitive in WC 39.

Wow! :eek: I jumped about 12 more places than I anticipated. 59th will hopefully make me remotely competitive in WC 39.

So you're Hopeful SC now?

Nah, I'll probably finish last in my group and fail to make it beyond the first round of CoH 31.:p

I already knew, but yay for 3rd place!

I believe I have finally at last determined which RL team QAZOX most realistically resembles: a combination of Scotland and Tunisia

Here's the Proof

Scotland: 8 appearances, Never made it past group stage of Cup.
Qazox: 6 appearances, Never made it past group stage of Cup.
Tunisia: 4 appearances, Never made it past group stage of Cup.

Just wondering, but what is the record for most NSWC appearances before FINALLY advancing into the 2nd Round?

Hey Qazox, Jeruselem started in 11 and made the 2nd round in 26. That's 16 cups.

Jeruselem are 14th and so are ... Scotland! :eek:
Scotland have never made the final once, so it's not Jeruselem.

Hey Qazox, Jeruselem started in 11 and made the 2nd round in 26. That's 16 cups.

Jeruselem are 14th and so are ... Scotland! :eek:
Scotland have never made the final once, so it's not Jeruselem.

That is bad, but i meant that the record for teams qualifing for the Group Stage of the World Cup (i don't think you made the WORLD Cup 16 times in row in those years) and the # of times until that team finally advanced past the group stage and into the knock-outs.

(BTW Jeruselem, you didn't qualify for the Cup until WC 18 and finally made to the second round in WC 24 spanning a total of 5 Cups in which you didn't advance past the 1st round.. so i got ya beat there.. and Yes I looked it up on the wiki.)

That is bad, but i meant that the record for teams qualifing for the Group Stage of the World Cup (i don't think you made the WORLD Cup 16 times in row in those years) and the # of times until that team finally advanced past the group stage and into the knock-outs.

(BTW Jeruselem, you didn't qualify for the Cup until WC 18 and finally made to the second round in WC 24 spanning a total of 5 Cups in which you didn't advance past the 1st round.. so i got ya beat there.. and Yes I looked it up on the wiki.)

So I did make the 2nd in WC24, I thought it was WC26!

I can't really take part in these discussions of futility ;) but I must say that the fact Scotlands never made the finals isn't reason to disqualify them from a comparison with Jeruselem. We've had just way more finalists than then IRL. They've had 18 cups compared to our 38 and only 11 different finalists ever. Interestingly in the last 7 cups only five different teams have made the finals and in the past 10 cups only 6 different teams. I think making a finals in here is worth maybe about a quarterfinals in IRL.

I can't really take part in these discussions of futility ;) but I must say that the fact Scotlands never made the finals isn't reason to disqualify them from a comparison with Jeruselem. We've had just way more finalists than then IRL. They've had 18 cups compared to our 38 and only 11 different finalists ever. Interestingly in the last 7 cups only five different teams have made the finals and in the past 10 cups only 6 different teams. I think making a finals in here is worth maybe about a quarterfinals in IRL.

2nd round 6 times, Q/F 3 times and final once. That is not Scotland.
OK, Scottish players could wear skirts - like half the Jeruselem team.

I think making a finals in here is worth maybe about a quarterfinals in IRL.

That sounds about right.

the good news is that with my Ranking (22nd) I should (hopefully) make it to my 5th straight WC.

If anything, the NSWC is more like the Olympic Soccer Championship.

Olympics: 24 Champions (17 different Champs with Hungary and Great Britain tied for the Most at 3 each. 32 different teams have played in the final (Hungary and Yugoslavia with the most at 4 each).

surprised to find out that I'm in 40th place (8 places away from "guaranteed" qualification) - somehow my almost qualified scheme won me some honors.

Anyway, just to say that I'm still alive, and I'll be a lot happier if schools didn't torture us students with two weeks of finals and schedule all of the damned finals on the last day... The OFC will begin hopefully around the time of the Baptism of Fire.

surprised to find out that I'm in 40th place (8 places away from "guaranteed" qualification) - somehow my almost qualified scheme won me some honors.

Anyway, just to say that I'm still alive, and I'll be a lot happier if schools didn't torture us students with two weeks of finals and schedule all of the damned finals on the last day... The OFC will begin hopefully around the time of the Baptism of Fire.

Daehan, just being in the top 32 doesn't automatically put ya in. (SEE: Qazox at WC 32 and WC 34 qualifers.) It just makes it easier for you to have a chance to qualify.

This might not have been brought up before, but who was the highest ranked team (during KPB era) NOT to qualify for the next Cup? (not including those that ceased to exist or didn't sign up at all).

I put the "guaranteed" in quotes for a reason...

Besides, I think I've seen enough of an example from the Archregimancy, to show that ranks aren't necessarily everything (and of course, RPing isn't everything either - then again, it might be that winning isn't everything...), but I understand the predicament.




Besides, the only way to have a guaranteed qualification is to host the event (and get totally screwed some other way...)

Qazox, please check TGs.

Speaking of the Archregimancy, I can search for his posts again...:bemused:

Qazox, please check TGs.

Thank you LE, I didn't know that.

Hi guys, just checking in real quick from warm, sunny Florida (not down Qazox way though, much farther north):

(a) A big obrigado* to Caf for getting the new rankings up. I had intended to get that done before I left Atlanta, but ended up not having enough time.

(b) I agree that the presidential vote (and indeed, everything WC-related) should be delayed until the new year. In fact, I think as a general guideline (probably doesn't need to be a hard and fast rule, though) we should try not to have anything running during the last 2-3 weeks of December or the first few days of January.

(c) I am honored by Az-cz's nomination and would gladly accept it. The next presidential term would most likely lie entirely or near-entirely within my spring semester, meaning I would probably not have to be away for any extended periods of time (barring a week or so in March).

(d) I'm really not sure of the answer to Qazox's question. I of course remember well my own failure to qualify for WC11 from #6, but that doesn't count since the KPBs weren't instituted until WC12.

(e) Vacation is perhaps the worst possible time to come down with a cold. I blame temperatures here in northwest Florida plunging into the 20s (Fahrenheit) a couple nights ago after I enjoyed 70s in Atlanta all last week. That's the South for ya.

* I take no responsibility if Google's Portuguese sucks.

Yes, fairly sure thank you is obrigado. Relax. ;)

I forget where the nominations go, so i'll post it here:

The Qazoxian Council of Sport nominates for the post of next World Cup Comitte President: ARIDDIA (somehow in caps Ariddia looks wierd)

I forget where the nominations go, so i'll post it here:

The Qazoxian Council of Sport nominates for the post of next World Cup Comitte President: ARIDDIA (somehow in caps Ariddia looks wierd)

WCC Presidential Nominatiions go to ...

THE CURRENT PRESIDENT ala ME

This might not have been brought up before, but who was the highest ranked team (during KPB era) NOT to qualify for the next Cup? (not including those that ceased to exist or didn't sign up at all).

I don't think they ceased during the WC, but I have this vague recollection of Turori not qualifying (and being one of the worst teams in the Cup to boot) from like 8th back in WC 20-something.

I don't think they ceased during the WC, but I have this vague recollection of Turori not qualifying (and being one of the worst teams in the Cup to boot) from like 8th back in WC 20-something.
Yes, #8 Turori finished at the bottom of their group (with a 1–7–4 record) in WC26. Don’t remind me. :p

Hmm the CoH results aren't calculated in those rankings. :p

Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holidays.

Merry Christmas from the people of Jeruselem, to everyone including sentient mice.

And a merry, if thoroughly secular, Christmas from the people of the Candelarias to everyone except sentient mice, gnomes, elves, monks from the fifth dimension and giant greek letters. :D

From Sentient Mice: Christmas?! What's Christmas

From normal humans: Merry Christmas to You and to all a good night.

(IC) The Holy Monastic Republic of the Archregimancy wishes all Christian nations - regardless of whether they're heretical or not, and regardless of whether they follow the Julian, revised Julian, or Gregorian calendars - a peaceful celebration of the nativity of our Lord and Saviour.

(OOC) Regardless of your cultural and/or religious inclinations, Dr. Archregimancy wishes you all a happy and enjoyable week, whether you're spending it with friends, family, or in isolated bliss.

Even C&M, despite his own exclusion of trans-dimensional Orthodox monks ;)

Kura-Pelland wishes everyone a great Christmas and hopes they enjoy the remaining trappings of the Shiny Season, including both Christmas lights and New Year fireworks.

(IC) On behalf of the people of the Empire of the Confederate States of the East and West Isles of Bostopia, I wish all of you who celebrate it a very merry Christmas, and hope that everyone enjoys the festivities. Bostopia looks forward to seeing you in the new year.

Alan Sentor
Prime Minister

(OOC) Merry Christmas folks, and best wishes for the new year!

IC The Eastern Westlands of Sorthern Northland would like to wish all nations a very Merry BenO'Bagelsmas (Yes even Christmas is named after him).

OOC Hope every one has a good Christmas/New Year/whatever your celebrating.

On my newly developed 'once every six cups in the Dreamed Realm' theory... (28, 34, 40? and, erm, 2 [not sure where that one fits in])


The Holy Monastic Republic is considering launching a bid to host WC40, and hereby announces a call for potential co-hosts.

I'd very much prefer a co-host who would make a decent IC co-host fit for a nation of Eastern Orthodox monks. However, I can't restrict it to just officially or majority Orthodox nations, or my only potential co-host would be Magnus Valerius - so I'll happily consider alternatives if we can come up with a decent IC reason why we're bidding together.

Officially atheist and sex-obsessed nations are almost certainly right out, however - sorry. I stress that this is only for IC reasons.

Don't worry The Archregimancy, Dazza and co are on holidays after XMas like most Jeruselemites are!

Merry Christmas Monks!
Err ho ho ho!

Happy Christmas! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbL9Vsobx8I)

Sel Appa wishes all a Happy Winter Solstice.

Happy Christmas/Hannukah/Eid ul-Adha/Winter Solstice/[non-denominational holiday] everyone!

Christianity isn't particularly prevalent in Vephrall - the original native religions are still the norm there - but they wish you all happy winter holidays*, whatever they may be for you, anyway.

Or summer holidays, as the case may be for you down under...

The Holy Monastic Republic is considering launching a bid to host WC40, and hereby announces a call for potential co-hosts.

I'd very much prefer a co-host who would make a decent IC co-host fit for a nation of Eastern Orthodox monks. However, I can't restrict it to just officially or majority Orthodox nations, or my only potential co-host would be Magnus Valerius - so I'll happily consider alternatives if we can come up with a decent IC reason why we're bidding together.

Officially atheist and sex-obsessed nations are almost certainly right out, however - sorry. I stress that this is only for IC reasons.

OOC: I would like to co-host, but I would have to learn how to use the scorinator first. :)

IC:

Emperor Ivan V wishes to present his wishes for peace and harmony on this holy day of Christ's Birth to people of all Christian denominations and all faiths.

I, too, wish for the same, and I will be honoring Jesus with numerous liturgies and prayers today at Christmas masses in Isangrad. The monks from the St. Photios Monastery will also be chanting liturgies in a public event. May God bless this coming new year and this holy time.

Glory Be to God,
Patriarch Feodor III
Patriarch of The Valerian Orthodox Church


OOC2: Merry Christmas to everyone. And I wish everyone a good week and holiday, and a good new year. I think I'll be quite festive this week. :D

IC- Happy Bah Humbug day from the mostly atheists of Tynelia.

<cuts off the vocal minority religious types trying to yell their own holiday greetings in the background>

OOC- ooh i'm in the top ten! <world ends>

though i have nowhere near the time to co-host- i think the New Othydoxic Christian Church of Reborn Othydoxy would have made a fine IC partner for the monks. ;)

IC: *various mumblings attempting to drown out screeches of paranoia directed at Christmas/monks/sentient mice/what have you*

OOC: Thanks for everyone else's best wishes: Merry Christmas and a happy 2008.

i think tynelia should be world cup president

Merry slash Happy Christmas to everyone!

IC: Valanora wishes everyone a wonderful winter holiday and a blessed New Year!

OCC: merry christmas everyone!

Um, so a very enjoyable, non-denominational, celebration, that just happens to be around the time of the winter solstice to all!

This is why I suppose people figured it was better just to say "Happy Holidays" instead of trying to treat each and every religious tradition to its own greeting.

Well, we wish everyone a very merry season, regardless of which walk you take, so long as you get back and get to doing the only thing that matters in life (football).

This is why I suppose people figured it was better just to say "Happy Holidays" instead of trying to treat each and every religious tradition to its own greeting.

Well, we wish everyone a very merry season, regardless of which walk you take, so long as you get back and get to doing the only thing that matters in life (football).

Exactly

so long as you get back and get to doing the only thing that matters in life (football).

Well, that and watching the Die Another Day over and over again for ten straight hours.

Well, that and watching the Die Another Day over and over again for ten straight hours.

Or A Christmas Story for 40 hours striaght... (which i believe has been listed a war crime under the Geneva Convention)

OOC: I would like to co-host, but I would have to learn how to use the scorinator first. :)



If you can operate a basic excel spreadsheet, you can operate a scorinator.

I'll get back in touch in the new year!

Well, that and watching the Die Another Day over and over again for ten straight hours.

No no no, you want to watch The Great Race over and over again.

PUSH THE BUTTON, MAX!

Speaking of films and Christmas time, The Great Escape wasn't really all that great was it? I mean how many of them actually escaped? Three?

Speaking of films and Christmas time, The Great Escape wasn't really all that great was it? I mean how many of them actually escaped? Three?

But by god it was bloody worth it.

Well for the three who escaped yes, but I wouldn't really say it was for the ones what got shot. Great theme tune though.

And for us, of course. Never overlook the viewing public. Just like how the Allied Team staged the comeback at the end of Victory. Nazis AND Soccer, no downside, that.

Great theme tune though.

Any movie with a theme that good deserves the title "great".

Speaking of films and Christmas time, The Great Escape wasn't really all that great was it? I mean how many of them actually escaped? Three?

I have never seen the movie from beginning to end, but have watched most of it at one time or another. My question is isn't it based on a true story?

If so, when did it supposedly happen?

Talk about a hardcore ref... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071226/od_nm/referee_dc)

Talk about a hardcore ref... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071226/od_nm/referee_dc)

Might not be a bad idea, it might stop some of the soccer riots.

Might not be a bad idea, it might stop some of the soccer riots.

Considering it was the players on the field who were rioting, the crowd were well behaved.

Considering it was the players on the field who were rioting, the crowd were well behaved.

I did mean for either the players or the fans, but it is still a good idea.

Now only if the NFL allowed the referees to have guns....

SUPER BOWL XLII
Terrell Owens Shot by Referee, Crowd Cheers!
PATRIOTS DESTROY COWBOYS 56-3
(assuming the Cowgirls even make it to the Super Bowl)

Patriots win! etc

NO! The Pats must NOT be allowed to go a whole season undefeated! It's Miami's record! We need something!

NO! The Pats must NOT be allowed to go a whole season undefeated! It's Miami's record! We need something!

You do! The Fins are the 1st team to go to 3 straight Super Bowls... and the 1st AFC team to win back-to-back SB's. And then there is Dan Marino's passing records...uhm, never mind that last one.

Bah! American football...

Bah! American football...

Bah: Futbol... lol JK I just wish MLS in the US/Canada was as big as the European and South American leagues. Then I'd be :) :) all-day. (give it about another 15 years or so, and it will be the 3rd sport in the US, after Baseball and the NFL).

Just to note that I've started my travel to the south of Brazil (now in Florianópolis-SC, started 22/12 going to Gramado-RS), so without internet access...

And, as the football season here is over too (a bad ending, as my team got relegated from the league), I just have to relax during this week.

Just to note that I've started my travel to the south of Brazil (now in Florianópolis-SC, started 22/12 going to Gramado-RS), so without internet access...

And, as the football season here is over too (a bad ending, as my team got relegated from the league), I just have to relax during this week.

So, that means that your going from 80 degree weather to 90 degree weather? ss about your team.

give it about another 15 years or so, and it will be the 3rd sport in the US, after Baseball and the NFL).

No way is MLS passing up basketball. Fourth is reasonable, although I don't think it'll pass golf either, but third is crazy.

Also to Reg,

I'd definitely host with you. Coming up with an IC reason for our two countries to host together might be tough. Maybe The Holy Empire and the Gnomes? They have good relations I think.

No way is MLS passing up basketball. Fourth is reasonable, although I don't think it'll pass golf either, but third is crazy.

Also to Reg,

I'd definitely host with you. Coming up with an IC reason for our two countries to host together might be tough. Maybe The Holy Empire and the Gnomes? They have good relations I think.

It's amazing how Americans find Golf to be a sport let alone interesting...

We're such the exception all across the board.

It's amazing how Americans find Golf to be a sport let alone interesting...

We're such the exception all across the board.

I'm fairly sure Golf is qualified as a sport here too. At least if you goto http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport that's where you'll find Golfing news ;) ... not that I'd know, or anything...

it might pass hockey for sixth, but it seems with the rising likeness of lacrosse in america it might not pass that or it may get passed by it.

it might pass hockey for sixth, but it seems with the rising likeness of lacrosse in america it might not pass that or it may get passed by it.

Lacrosse? more popular than Soccer? That'll be the day.

Yes i know there are professional lacrosse leagues in the US (and Canada, probably, since that's where it came from), but i sincerely doubt that anybody born south of New England, Upstate New York, Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, North Carolina and possibly Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and maybe Minnesota and Illinois, even has heard of Lacrosse.

Personally, I love lacrosse, (fine balance between Ice Hockey, Football and Basketball) but other than in those 11-16 states, it's 1- not on TV (unless you have the Mega-Sports packages from cable or satellite) 2- no college teams and 3- no interest.

Other than the Duke Lacrosse case last year and this year, I'm almost willing to bet that less than 2% of the US Population living west of the Mississippi River even heard of it, before then.

In order in the US by Ratings and popularity: (not including the Olympics. Winter would be 6th, and Summer would be 4th)
1- NFL
2- College Football
3- Baseball
4- College Basketball
5- NBA (just look the ratings for the last 3 NBA Finals compared to the NCAA Final Four, more watched the FF than the NBA Finals.)
6- World Series of Poker
7- Hockey
8- Soccer
...
Lacrosse? Probably not even in the top 15.

(Sorry if it seems i turned this into a Lacrosse Disscussion Thread)

6- World Series of Poker
7- HockeyI live in a place too hockey-mad to be allowed to argue against this, but I think someone should argue against this, so calling this to the world's attention.

Sorry for the diversion.

Being from a non-traditional hockey enviroment, my beloved Texas, and knowing how popular the Stars are around here, I can definately argue against that. Based off of my findings here, Hockey is fourth or fifth, just out of the brink of the big 3.

From my understanding, after the 'big three' you're into regional variations - lacrosse in the north-east, soccer in California, hockey in other places, etc.

Each of these sports has to fight to become national, and arguably that is the fight to become 'America's fourth sport'. I'd rate soccer as the favourite.

the big three being baseball, football and basketball right

Can we all just get back on track?

right!!!

err, i'm doing a major reform of my domestic league, yes, and we need to get another bid or two for the WC in like now!!!

Lacrosse? more popular than Soccer? That'll be the day.

Yes i know there are professional lacrosse leagues in the US (and Canada, probably, since that's where it came from), but i sincerely doubt that anybody born south of New England, Upstate New York, Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, North Carolina and possibly Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and maybe Minnesota and Illinois, even has heard of Lacrosse.

Personally, I love lacrosse, (fine balance between Ice Hockey, Football and Basketball) but other than in those 11-16 states, it's 1- not on TV (unless you have the Mega-Sports packages from cable or satellite) 2- no college teams and 3- no interest.

Other than the Duke Lacrosse case last year and this year, I'm almost willing to bet that less than 2% of the US Population living west of the Mississippi River even heard of it, before then.

Lacrosse is played here in NJ and I think NYC is opening a professional team soon. I still don't get how lacrosse could possibly work...although that may be because I've never seen it played for real.

KP,

I'm curious as to what makes you think soccer is preferred in California. It might be popular amongst immigrant populations but amongst the population as a whole it's hardly the strong fourth pick.

LE & ESF,

I'm still looking to bid, but without a partner that'll be tough.

Lacrosse is played here in NJ and I think NYC is opening a professional team soon. I still don't get how lacrosse could possibly work...although that may be because I've never seen it played for real.

I did mean to put in New Jersey, but like evreyone else in the US/world, i forgot about it. (j/k)

While we're on the subject of getting back on track to football talk, I'd just like to say RIP Phil O'Donnell (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7164150.stm). This shocking development yesterday overshadowed everything that took place on the pitch.

Wow, that was a really useless and pointless 4th sport argument, with very little actual evidence. :p

It's always sad to see a player die on the field/court/rink/pitch/oval/other terms, however.

While we're on the subject of getting back on track to football talk, I'd just like to say RIP Phil O'Donnell (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7164150.stm). This shocking development yesterday overshadowed everything that took place on the pitch.

That is truly a shocking thing to happen.

Other than the Duke Lacrosse case last year and this year, I'm almost willing to bet that less than 2% of the US Population living west of the Mississippi River even heard of it, before then.

I live in Southern California. I know what Lacrosse is, and almost everyone I know does too (from all around California). Even people I know from Washington state know what lacrosse is too, unless Asian Americans are the only ones who know what's up with lacrosse. :p

I know of it as well, but I went to a country club university. My guess is that outside of the NE it's only a sport known by those in the upper middle class or upper class or people like me who have a decent amount of contact with those circles without actually being in them.

Is that the thing with the butterfly nets..?

One of the more curious aspects of the shocking Phil O'Donnell story is that his nephew was also playing in the match, and had managed to score two goals before being understandably substituted because he was too distressed to continue.

While trying to kill some time on a windy Sunday after Christmas, I also couldn't help but notice a little bit of intellectually sneakiness on Qaz's part in attempting to argue that association football is only the eigth most popular sport in the USA:


1- NFL
2- College Football
3- Baseball
4- College Basketball
5- NBA
6- World Series of Poker
7- Hockey
8- Soccer


Note that the coloured pairs are in fact the same sport, but listed separately according to who plays them. On the same basis, I could 'prove' that cricket and rugby are only the sixth and seventh most popular sports in the United Kingdom. For the sake

1 - Premiership
2 - Champions League
3 - Scottish Premiership
4 - European Nation's Cup
5 - FIFA World Cup
6 - Rugby
7 - Cricket

(pedants note: this is only a hypothetical table, and isn't backed up by any statistics of any kind)

So what Qaz is apparently saying, leaving aside the argument over whether poker really counts as a sport or not, is that association football is the sixth most popular sport in the US:

1 - American football
2 - Baseball
3 - Basketball
4 - Poker
5 - Ice Hockey
6 - Association football


As to lacrosse, it plays a similar role here in the UK as field hockey does in the USA... it's almost entirely a girl's sport, much to the bemusement of people from the majority of countries where it's played by men.


Meanwhile, my new year's wish is that Portsmouth football club will score a goal at home before the end of the season.


Finally, moving on the topic that this thread is ostensibly actually about... do we have an estimated start date for the next BoF and WC? I ask because I'll be travelling to and from New Mexico from the 8th through to the 14th (possibly the 15th if the proposed strike closes Heathrow), which may disrupt my ability to RP if the BoF is over quickly.

If there are no such limitations against this, I'm sure Universitus would love a chance to host BoF 26...;)

(Provided we learn how to scorinate.)

Finally, moving on the topic that this thread is ostensibly actually about... do we have an estimated start date for the next BoF and WC? I ask because I'll be travelling to and from New Mexico from the 8th through to the 14th (possibly the 15th if the proposed strike closes Heathrow), which may disrupt my ability to RP if the BoF is over quickly.

Ick... I'm also travelling next month, from the 13th to 18th, which might actually affect my ability to participate at all :-/ I would think that, if I know what I'm doing, I could manage to find a computer with internets where I'm going, but...

Finally, moving on the topic that this thread is ostensibly actually about... do we have an estimated start date for the next BoF and WC? I ask because I'll be travelling to and from New Mexico from the 8th through to the 14th (possibly the 15th if the proposed strike closes Heathrow), which may disrupt my ability to RP if the BoF is over quickly.
The week-long vote for WC and BoF hosts probably won’t start until January, and the BoF should take at least a week, so the World Cup can’t start until after that…

Speaking of the vote, could we decide when that’s going to be?

The votes are going to be on the 5th

WC Host ands WCC Pres will be held at the same time

Oh, and WC 39 Host bids are closed.

I hope everyone has a happy new year and come back next year for more ... fun and frivolity. Have a good 2008!

Throws money at everyone ... :)
Legal tender in Jeruselem (yes, it's photoshopped) and I hope ye can read Latin!

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6338/dazzashekelmr1.jpg

While we're on the subject of getting back on track to football talk, I'd just like to say RIP Phil O'Donnell (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7164150.stm). This shocking development yesterday overshadowed everything that took place on the pitch.

Wow, how the hell does that happen? Reminds me of the video of the Saudi guy that had that happen to him also I posted here a few months ago.

If there are no such limitations against this, I'm sure Universitus would love a chance to host BoF 26...;)

(Provided we learn how to scorinate.)
I strongly oppose this on IC an OOC grounds. ICly we oppose such an arrogant and pompous nation being entrusted with such an important thing and OOCly because you withdrew for such a silly reason.

I hope everyone has a happy new year and come back next year for more ... fun and frivolity. Have a good 2008!

Throws money at everyone ... :)
Legal tender in Jeruselem (yes, it's photoshopped) and I hope ye can read Latin!

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6338/dazzashekelmr1.jpg

BLAST! I thought I was the only one who thought of making RL versions of NS currency. I have a piece somewhere--completely hand-drawn--but don't remember what book I put it in. I was done with everything except the background design thing.

(pedants note: this is only a hypothetical table, and isn't backed up by any statistics of any kind)

In terms of crowd size and income generated, incidentally, the Championship (tier 2 of English football) is something like the 6th largest league in Europe.

I strongly oppose this on IC an OOC grounds. ICly we oppose such an arrogant and pompous nation being entrusted with such an important thing and OOCly because you withdrew for such a silly reason.

I explained the rationale of my withdrawal when it occurred, so I, again, will say that your OOC objections are wholly misguided. Lambast Universitus, TSS, or whomever I RP'ed all you want, their arrogance was not hidden the slightest bit. But do not call "my" decisions silly.

I understand the IC opposition and will not pursue this hosting bid if it is clear the rest of WCC agrees. However, I would not be so quick to assume that just because Universitus is incapable of tolerating a very large defeat that they are automatically incapable of running a finely tuned Baptism of Fire. Part of the reason the RP reaction was so ridiculously pompous was because Universians are wholly obsessed with doing things perfectly, and the loss usurped that. To host a BoF perfectly would be to do so in an appropriate manner that would be undoubtedly satisfactory to the WCC, without any of the apparent arrogance of the superiority complexes maintained by those in the university.

You have little to be concerned about Sel Appa's opposition. What counts for the BoF and CoH, is the EWCC (former hosts of World Cups). They're the ones who do the voting on BoF and CoH hosts, as a leftover from all the old mini-committees we used to have.

For what it's worth I would oppose a bid from you individually, but if you can find someone who's had experience to help guide you along (either as a cohost or like how Archreg helped Sel Appa along as a 'mentor') I'd have no objections.

And on this day, it's a Happy New Year from Bostopia (IC) and a Happy New Year from me (OOC)

Alan Sentor/Dave
PM of Bostopia/Wacko Behind Bostopia

And on this day, it's a Happy New Year from Bostopia (IC) and a Happy New Year from me (OOC)

Alan Sentor/Dave
PM of Bostopia/Wacko Behind Bostopia

Sel Appan New Years is in March. :P

I explained the rationale of my withdrawal when it occurred, so I, again, will say that your OOC objections are wholly misguided. Lambast Universitus, TSS, or whomever I RP'ed all you want, their arrogance was not hidden the slightest bit. But do not call "my" decisions silly.

I understand the IC opposition and will not pursue this hosting bid if it is clear the rest of WCC agrees. However, I would not be so quick to assume that just because Universitus is incapable of tolerating a very large defeat that they are automatically incapable of running a finely tuned Baptism of Fire. Part of the reason the RP reaction was so ridiculously pompous was because Universians are wholly obsessed with doing things perfectly, and the loss usurped that. To host a BoF perfectly would be to do so in an appropriate manner that would be undoubtedly satisfactory to the WCC, without any of the apparent arrogance of the superiority complexes maintained by those in the university.

OOCly I find it all stupid. It is a good RP idea and all that, but it's stupid to me. That's my opinion.

ICly we are afraid that your University think may bias or influence the BoF and that is the prime source of our opposition.

Casaran New Years is whenever we need a reason to drink and it's not a different made up holiday.

Happy New Years! And, um... Cheese Day, too! *drinks merrily*

OOCly and ICLY: Happy New Year from Qazox and the mutated sea bass that writes his material.

methinks we have zoroastrians amongst us!

Happy New YEARS! To ALL!

Resolution List:

Gain 20 pounds
MMasturbate every day
Sit in front of a television for 10 hours a day
Sleep for 14 hours each day
Buy a new camera
Use my old camera
Make obscure and obtuse lists
WIN THE FREAKING DAMNED WORLD CUP IN 2010
Kill everyone from Italy (except for the good ones)
Forget to write my repeal of responsibility after every obnoxious comment I make
Listen to rap music
Laugh at a funeral
Shoot a pistol at a wedding
Read Harry Potter aloud at an Evangelist Convention
Use. Punctuation. Everywhere!
Live for another year
Stop making people guess the correct answer
END WAR. LOVE PEACE.
LOVE WAR. END PEACE.
Figure out why people make resolution lists


Hope yours is better than mine.

Resolution List:

Make obscure and obtuse lists
WIN THE FREAKING DAMNED WORLD CUP IN 2010


Hope yours is better than mine.

Those just happen to be My resolutions, Except for the 2nd one, USA's turn...lol

Those just happen to be My resolutions, Except for the 2nd one, USA's turn...lol

Good luck with both of them...

Is that the thing with the butterfly nets..?

More like lacrosse sticks...

I'm rather surprised that lacrosse is considered more of a woman's sport across the pond.

Oh yeah, happy new year, everyone. :)

I'm rather surprised that lacrosse is considered more of a woman's sport across the pond.

I'm rather certain that we don't have lacrosse here. But, if you meant field hockey (which I think you may have done), then as a bona-fide fellow from across the pond, yes, field hockey is a girls sport. Ice hockey is a different matter, and is one of the few sports a team from Coventry is actually good at (see Coventry Blaze).

I think lacrosse has at most a limited 'posh peoples' sport' appeal here. There are, however, university teams.

Anyway, I digress. *LOL* at Daehanjeiguk, although 'gain 20 pounds' would be a realistic resolution for me (I'm 5'11" and under 135...), and let's hope for another year of great NSWC action!

Instead of action, let's hope our entry numbers get a bounce back up to their usual levels. Every time I see it it astonishes me, but WC29 had 122 entries, and if the topic in #nssport is right, we're at... 74. :(

and if the topic in #nssport is right, we're at... 74. :(

Yes! Easier qualification for me now that I'm not hosting it anymore! :p

I think lacrosse has at most a limited 'posh peoples' sport' appeal here. There are, however, university teams.

Anyway, I digress. *LOL* at Daehanjeiguk, although 'gain 20 pounds' would be a realistic resolution for me (I'm 5'11" and under 135...), and let's hope for another year of great NSWC action!

You think that's bad? I can never gain weight, I'm 5'10.4" ish (according to Google) but weight probably no more than 120 lb. Or, in easier terms for me, about 179 or 180 cm/55 kg. That's scary.

I'm rather certain that we don't have lacrosse here. But, if you meant field hockey (which I think you may have done), then as a bona-fide fellow from across the pond, yes, field hockey is a girls sport. Ice hockey is a different matter, and is one of the few sports a team from Coventry is actually good at (see Coventry Blaze).

Even the Rangers could own your sissy team...

Instead of action, let's hope our entry numbers get a bounce back up to their usual levels. Every time I see it it astonishes me, but WC29 had 122 entries, and if the topic in #nssport is right, we're at... 74. :(

wow...that's crazy...it was just over 100 when I started

You think that's bad? I can never gain weight, I'm 5'10.4" ish (according to Google) but weight probably no more than 120 lb. Or, in easier terms for me, about 179 or 180 cm/55 kg. That's scary.

Just remember the people who can't lose weight for their life...

And I'm just a normal 6ft 0in (1m 83cm) and 192 Lbs. (87.09 kg).

Unless you're a weightlifter, you are underweight and your doctor tell you to, fighting a disease or attempting to go out for (american) football, there's no reason to willfully gain weight.

As for the losing weight part, It took me just under 4 years but i went from 250 lbs (113.40 kg) to 190 lbs. (86.18 Kg), and i did it naturally, without a diet, exercise or any supplements.

(in response to Baz's post, I accidently copied the 87.09 kg instead of putting in the proper weight of 113.40 kg.. didn't mean to blantantly mess up the metric system that way...lol)

um 60lbs is not just under 1kg

You think that's bad? I can never gain weight, I'm 5'10.4" ish (according to Google) but weight probably no more than 120 lb. Or, in easier terms for me, about 179 or 180 cm/55 kg. That's scary.
Wow, Google can give you your height?

Wow, Google can give you your height?

Frankly, I'm not surprised by this at all. Judging by the rate of growth to date, I think we can expect Google to acheive sentience sometime around 2nd-quarter 2009.

Just think, in a few short months we won't need scorinators for the World Cup, because Google will be able to do it all for us!

(Do I get bonus points for successfully tying this back to the actual topic of the thread? :p)

Frankly, I'm not surprised by this at all. Judging by the rate of growth to date, I think we can expect Google to acheive sentience sometime around 2nd-quarter 2009.

Just think, in a few short months we won't need scorinators for the World Cup, because Google will be able to do it all for us!

(Do I get bonus points for successfully tying this back to the actual topic of the thread? :p)

So we can scorinate based on the number of hits using the name of the nation? Jeruselem is good one for that! :p

Frankly, I'm not surprised by this at all. Judging by the rate of growth to date, I think we can expect Google to acheive sentience sometime around 2nd-quarter 2009.

Just think, in a few short months we won't need scorinators for the World Cup, because Google will be able to do it all for us!

(Do I get bonus points for successfully tying this back to the actual topic of the thread? :p)

I hate Google. Google is evil.

If you search for Google on Google, you break the internet.

I recall doing rather well in the Google hit test, so I support said scorinator.

If you search for Google on Google, you break the internet.

Let me try.... Sorry all :(

Wow, Google can give you your height?

Frankly, I'm not surprised by this at all. Judging by the rate of growth to date, I think we can expect Google to acheive sentience sometime around 2nd-quarter 2009.

Actually, Google and I had a particularly intriguing conversation last night about whether influential Victorian art critic John Ruskin's apparent fear of menstruation had a direct impact on the rapid decline in Millais' artistic style (yes, by the way - without that phobia, Millais probably never would have run off Ruskin's wife Effie, had 8 children, and then started painting dross for money in order to keep them all comfortably well off). We then shared a splendid bottle of Alsatian gewurtztraminer over cheese and biscuits before he (and he has decided to designate himself as masculine) outlined his evil plan for total world domination by 2012. Apparently it somehow involves the Church of Scientology and the London Olympics, but my feeble intellect was far too weak to fully grasp the implications of his magnificent all-encompassing vision. Indeed, can his plan truly be called evil, or has he succeeded where Dostoyevsky's Raskolnikov failed, and moved beyond mere ordinary morality?

You know, I used to go to Spruit to hook me up, but damn, I might have to reconsider.

Actually, Google and I had a particularly intriguing conversation last night about whether influential Victorian art critic John Ruskin's apparent fear of menstruation had a direct impact on the rapid decline in Millais' artistic style (yes, by the way - without that phobia, Millais probably never would have run off Ruskin's wife Effie, had 8 children, and then started painting dross for money in order to keep them all comfortably well off). We then shared a splendid bottle of Alsatian gewurtztraminer over cheese and biscuits before he (and he has decided to designate himself as masculine) outlined his evil plan for total world domination by 2012. Apparently it somehow involves the Church of Scientology and the London Olympics, but my feeble intellect was far too weak to fully grasp the implications of his magnificent all-encompassing vision. Indeed, can his plan truly be called evil, or has he succeeded where Dostoyevsky's Raskolnikov failed, and moved beyond mere ordinary morality?


I think that Arch really needs some time alone in a rubber room, either that or i need to understand 560% less of that narative than what i really understood (which was about 98%)

either that or i need to understand 560% less of that narative than what i really understood (which was about 98%)

*head explodes*

Voting will start soon when I've to finalise the WCC members list but here is the information for BoF Hosts, WC Hosts and Presidential nominations....

BoF Hosts: Winners - LE/Zwang (by Default)

WC Hosts: CH/ESF - Confirmation of selection vote to be carried out.

WCC Presidential Nominees.

Novapsolu (With 2 nominations) ... Hey, aren't these guys new to the WCC?*
Casari (also with 2 nominations) ... Ugh, I don't know what's worse... newbies being Pres or Casari.*
Vephrall (... 2 nominations) ... Dangnabit, whats with it and these damned n00bs*

Nations with nominations but not with enough to make it to the vote:

Ariddia (See, at leasts my VP's got a nomination)*
Kura-Pelland (I don't care that they have the same initials as the old farts Kaza Progressa, They are still noobs)*
The Archregimancy (Good for the monks, though damn-nabbit a dream-realm President. That's asking for trouble.)*

* The views expressed are not necessarily that of the current World Cup president... He's just upset that he didn't one lousy nomination.

BoF Hosts: Winners - LE/Zwang (by Default)
Technically, the rule (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13029931&postcount=54) (slani read-only NSwiki!) requires a confirmation vote when there is only one bid for the BoF as well as for the CoH and World Cup. I don’t actually want such a vote, since I think it’d be a waste of time, but if some EWCC member feels strongly that NSFS will corrupt the moral fiber of new nations or something, we can deal with that then. :p

NH, you're right.

so where do we vote for confirmation of the BoF... oh yeah I'm not allowed to vote on that one right? forget i said anything then :(

Yes! Easier qualification for me now that I'm not hosting it anymore! :p

Wouldn't be so sure, I'd imagine nearly all of the top teams are still in it and the all-important (in terms of qualification ease) 30s and 40s are packed with active RPers.

Does mean fewer non-RPing n00bs to be humbled by. :)

74's easy if it finished that way, 12x6 with top-two-and-playoffs...

Official Presidential Announcement.

Voting Now Open!

What do you vote for?

There will be 3 items being voted for.

1. World Cup Hosting

Despite there being only one Hosting Bid the WCC still needs to vote to approve the bid. The bid details can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545188).

The options for this vote are as follows:

1. Accept proposed bid as is
2. Accept proposed bid with alterations
3. Reject bid and re-open the bidding process

All WCC members can vote, a list of all WCC will be appended at the end of this announcement

2. World Cup Committee President

There are 3 nominees for world cup president, neither the current president nor vice president are in the list. Please vote for who you want to be president out of the three following nations.

1. Novapsolu (aka. Legalese)
2. Casari (aka. Casari)
3. Vephrall (aka. Bedistan, aka Pedriana, ...)

The nation who receives a majority vote will take the position if no majority exists then the person with the lowest votes will be knocked out and a second round will be completed.

All WCC members can vote, a list of current WCC members will be listed at the end of this announcement

3. Baptism of Fire Hosting

While there is still only 1 bid, WCC Rules (as with WC Host vote) that it be accepted by a vote of the EWWC. The details of the bid can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13292870&postcount=1953)

The options are as follows:

1. Accept proposed bid as is
2. Accept proposed bid with alterations
3. Reject bid and re-open the bidding process


How to vote

Please TG, MSN, IRC or otherwise get in contact with Bazalonia, clearly labelling what you are voting for and the option (1,2 or 3)


Who is eligible to vote?

For the World Cup 39 Host vote and for the WCC Presidential vote all WCC members are eligible these members currently are...

WCC Member List:

Ad’ihan/Liverpool England
Ariddia
Az-cz/Ulzaxid
Bazalonia/Miceland
Bettia/Northern Bettia
Bostopia
Cafundéu/Estresse Intenso
Candelaria And Marquez
Capitalizt SLANI/Jasīʼyūn
Casari
Daehanjeiguk
Geisenfried
Jeruselem/Jeru FC
Kansiov
Kelssek
Krytenia
Kura-Pelland
Lethislavania
Milchama
Novapsolu
Oliverry
Prux
Qazox
Quakmybush
Rejistania
Sel Appa
Sorthern Northland
Squornshelous
Starblaydia
St Samuel
Taeshan
The Archregimancy/The Holy Empire
The Islands of Qutar
Valanora/Demot
Vephrall
Vilita
Yafor 2
Zwangzug


However for the BoF hosting vote only the EWCC can vote these people are:

EWCC Member List:

Ad’ihan/Liverpool England
Ariddia
Az-cz/Ulzaxid
Bazalonia/Miceland
Cafundéu/Estresse Intenso
Capitalizt SLANI/Jasīʼyūn
Casari
Geisenfried
Krytenia
Kura-Pelland
Lethislavania
Milchama
Novapsolu
Oliverry
Quakmybush
Rejistania
Starblaydia
The Archregimancy/The Holy Empire
The Islands of Qutar
Vephrall

Question: I've been out of the loop what are the alterations?

Question: I've been out of the loop what are the alterations?

None have been officially proposed to either the BoF nor the WC Hosts It's just that I am bound procedurally to include as options. If you wish to see something particular changed to the extent it would affect a yea or nay vote then please vote for this option.

We can resolve the issue after the vote if need be.

GL to all the Prez. Nominees...

And the person I voted for hopefully wins.

Wow, well, I'm certainly not winning in that field. :p Another successful last-place finish in the WCC Presidency voting for me!

With a total of 12(or perhaps more accurately 10.93 + 1 thanks to Vephrall and his .93 of a vote) votes having been cast for the BoF - I can officially declare a winner.

1. Accept proposed bid as is
2. Accept proposed bid with alterations
3. Reject bid and re-open the bidding process

Option 1 received 11 votes
Option 2 received 1 vote
Option 3 received 0 votes

Congratulations Liverpool England and Zwangzug as you are the hosts for the 26th Baptism of Fire

Where would we be without 1093?

Hey that rhymes! It should be the official motto of the IRC channel :p

I think "when" might be the better question, though I don't really know...

Anyhow, thanks for the support, everyone. We're looking for seven more teams at this point.

when might the Prez elections end? just wondering.

Voting period for these things are usually one week...

12-01-2008 11:05 PM --- Thats in D/M/Y format and based on AEDT

Though I'll probably finish it a few hours earlier than that

so... how's everyone doing

so... how's everyone doing

A bit too busy at work for my own liking ...

so... how's everyone doing

Fine except for my sinuses, which are clogged like a busted septic tank.

Who is eligible to vote?

For the World Cup 39 Host vote and for the WCC Presidential vote all WCC members are eligible these members currently are...

WCC Member List:

...
Daehanjeiguk
...


And how does one join this esteemed list of people?

And how does one join this esteemed list of people?

Post a squad for each of the last two Cups.

And how does one join this esteemed list of people?

Welcome to the club! :)

And how does one join this esteemed list of people?


Welcome to the club! :)

Your $50.00 club fee is due...

Your $50.00 club fee is due...

Yes, please send $50, to the current President of the WCC (i.e. ME) and I'll finally sign off on your membership.

But hurry get the $50 in before the Pres vote is announced - LAST DAYS!!!!

Yes, please send $50, to the current President of the WCC (i.e. ME) and I'll finally sign off on your membership.

But hurry get the $50 in before the Pres vote is announced - LAST DAYS!!!!


That $50 include GST? :p

That $50 include GST? :p

All taxes included. :p

That $50 include GST? :p

Nah, he's a foreigner and the WCC is not an Australian organisation despite the fact an Australian is leading it so membership is GST FREE!!!

All taxes included. :p
Hey, stop trying to cut into Baz’s profit! :p

Hey, stop trying to cut into Baz’s profit! :p

Only capitalists would complain about TAXES INCLUDED :)

On a more serious note, any ideas yet as to the start date of the BoF? (so that the WC can begin sometime before March?)

Only capitalists would complain about TAXES INCLUDED :)

On a more serious note, any ideas yet as to the start date of the BoF? (so that the WC can begin sometime before March?)

We're holding out for 24 BoF entrants, but the final number is also dependent on what CH and ESF want for the WC. I'd like to get the BoF over asap myself as I have a couple of exams on the 15th and 20th of February.

The mass where assembled.

The result of the votes had been tallied it was time to announce the results of the WC Host vote and the WCC Presidential vote.

The votes are as follows...

The following options..

A. Approve bid as is
B. Approve bid with changes
C. Re-open bidding process

The results are...

A. 15
B. 1
C: 2

Congratulations Capitalizt Slani and Valanora, your WC Hosting bid has been approved unchanged.

And perhaps for the most important vote, as this will bring in a new president and vice president no matter what happens, I would like to announce the vote of the World Cup Committee President.

The nominees are...

1. Novapsolu
2. Casari
3. Vephrall.

And here the votes as tallied...

1. 2
2. 6
3. 14

Congratulations on Vephrall for becoming the new WCC President with an overwhelming majority of the votes and Casari for becoming the new Vice President.

And perhaps for the most important vote, as this will bring in a new president and vice president no matter what happens, I would like to announce the vote of the World Cup Committee President.

The nominees are...

1. Novapsolu
2. Casari
3. Vephrall.

And here the votes as tallied...

1. 2
2. 6
3. 14

Congratulations on Vephrall for becoming the new WCC President with an overwhelming majority of the votes and Casari for becoming the new Vice President.

I demand a recount.

Congratulations on Vephrall for becoming the new WCC President with an overwhelming majority of the votes and Casari for becoming the new Vice President.

Yes Congrats to Vephrall... Let's get the BoF started!!! lol

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Any particular justification for said recount?

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Wierd time slipping Jolt.

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Any particular justification for said recount?

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Any particular justification for said recount?

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Vote rigging. Electoral fraud. The works.

Vote rigging. Electoral fraud. The works.

AKA You're bitter the person you supported didn't win. Show proof, otherwise stop bitching.

Honestly I can't tell if Sel's joking or not, but I do hope he doesn't sincerely believe that we take this thing so seriously that that could possibly be an issue.

That said, I thank you all very much for your support, and here's hoping that my third (I think) term as president runs at least as smoothly as the previous two. :)

World Cup 40 signups, which will be my first order of business (remember that Baz is still officially president for all WC39-related matters), will begin once WC39 qualifying has commenced.

*sigh*

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Any particular justification for said recount?

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I voted for ya! But I expected Vephrall to win anyway.

I think we all knew that the moment Veph entered the race, it was over :p

Frankly, I think we all won, in that no matter what combo of the three took the job, we all know what we need to do to try and reverse the slipping levels of participation, and keep this going for a good bit longer than now :cool:

I offer my congrats to both Vephrall and Casari, and may the long break between terms help end the "third term curse" that seems to befall presidents. ;)

I had that easily marked as a Bedi-Legal result, seeing as I'm notoriously badly supported in these things.

congrats to the new prez. now, what about them taxes?

congrats to the new prez. now, what about them taxes?

Well, we will be needing a little bit more money from the member nations of the WCC. This is in order to protect against current and potential terrorist threats against WCC Headquarters.

And remember, if you're against these taxes, then you're letting the terrorists win. And then there won't be any more World Cups. And we don't want that, now do we?

I'm Angufams Wecoisus, and I approve this message.

Angufams Wecoisus
President-elect, World Cup Committee

Well, we will be needing a little bit more money from the member nations of the WCC. This is in order to protect against current and potential terrorist threats against WCC Headquarters.

And remember, if you're against these taxes, then you're letting the terrorists win. And then there won't be any more World Cups. And we don't want that, now do we?

I'm Angufams Wecoisus, and I approve this message.

Angufams Wecoisus
President-elect, World Cup Committee

LIES, SLANDER AND LIES!

The only reason why taxes are needed is to allow the WCC President-elect(currently one Angufams Wecoisus) to take expensive vacations around the world to "scout out potential World Cup Hosts".

As for terrorists, they only attack countries like errinundera and Arridia.

The silent minority has spoken...(uhm.. guess we're not silent anymore now..)

(disclaimer: the above post is not endorsed by the rulers of qazox)

As a result of the recent president-elect’s decree, Capitalizt SLANI would like to take this opportunity, on behalf of its member clubs, to laugh at all of the World Cup Committee members that still worship the archaic concept of a “nation,” and will therefore need to surrender their income to the Committee. We are happy to report that, due to our enlightenment, we are able to continue investing our money in expensive new stadia, rather than squandering it on planting nearly eleven hundred new kumquat trees around the Committee headquarters as a “terrorist defense.”

—Capitalizt SLANI Executive Board

As an autonomous self-governing community of Orthodox monastics, we don't really have much experience with this 'money' thing the rest of you keep going on about, except that St. Paul referred to it as 'the root of all evil'.

Perhaps this explains our recent catastrophic slide through the rankings?

The Az-cz thieves guild would like to calm the minds of all member nations who fear that they will have to pay exorbinant taxes to the World Cup Comittee. We are offering to pay the dues for all nations who might be burdened by such fees like Errinundera and Ariddia. You might ask how we do such a thing. Easily :) We'll just rob the fat cats of places like Commerce Heights.

The Kura-Pellandis demand the other seven kumquat trees.

That is all.

Also, best of luck to the elves and capitalizts, make your own mind up on their ideology but they have a proven track record for making the big occasion pass smoothly.

Kumquat trees?

The Sorthern Northland government would like to know how much the Az-Cz thieves guild can donate from the fat cats on behalf of SN in this excellent campaign for more kumquat trees.

As the incoming Vice President (Aye, we don't know either), we would like to reassure the particularly whiny affiliated committees who choose to enter a team into the World Cup, and who have thankfully listed themselves above, that the non-payment of dues would be a particularly pressing reason in ignoring any complaints that you care to make over the play and officiating of events. ( :p )

However, for those who have decided that cash is unneeded, payment will happily be taken in Food, High-priced commodities, IT support, or Janitorial/Maintenance work. Someone has to water the Kumquat trees.

With all our love, naturally-
Felix Northumbria
WCC Vice President

"Taxes? Kumquat trees? Janitorial work? Why did we ever decide to vote for those Casarans ever?"

"If I remember rightly, their chocolate digestives far usurped the digestives and bourbons offered at the presentations by the other two electee-nations."

"Ah, of course."

"Are we going to pay up then?"

"Hmm... how about we just tell them that we'd love to pay, but we're too busy paying for anti-terrorism improvements to our own stadiums and are too full on brandy and rum pies to lift a pen to write a cheque at the current time."

"I'll drop the last bit, shall I?"

"Yep. Oh, and throw in a gentle reminder about something."

"Right-o."

Dear Sirs
Unfortunately, we are currently too busy funding our own anti-terrorism measures at football stadiums in Bostopia to donate taxes at this current time. However, we would like to remind yourselves and other WC-going nations of the special "Non-Visa-Sports-Entry" we have supplied to football fans travelling to Bostopia for qualifying games, and any payment we make would only cause the NVSE to be shut down due to lack of funding. Holding up foreign fans (or of course the WCC President and Vice-President and their entourage nudge nudge wink wink) is something the Football Association would not wish to consider.

Yours

the Football Association
Bostopia

(ooc: guess now we got some RPing ideas)

To: The World Cup Committee office #1093
From: La Fédération Nationale Septentionale de Football (Fedénatfoot)

We are sorry to tell mr. the president of the World Cup Committee that we are unable to pay taxes for the moment. Reason 1) We just started our national association, so we need time to set things up. Reason 2) Well, no taxation without representation. We are not members of the WCC yet, but we plan on joining for the 40th World Cup.

Sincerely yours

Member #1093 of the Fédénatfoot

P.S. Look at my sig to know who I am ;)

Ahem, I wasn't kidding about them taxes...

Your $50.00 club fee is due...

Yes, please send $50, to the current President of the WCC (i.e. ME) and I'll finally sign off on your membership.

But hurry get the $50 in before the Pres vote is announced - LAST DAYS!!!!

All taxes included. :p

Well, we will be needing a little bit more money from the member nations of the WCC. This is in order to protect against current and potential terrorist threats against WCC Headquarters.

And remember, if you're against these taxes, then you're letting the terrorists win. And then there won't be any more World Cups. And we don't want that, now do we?

I'm Angufams Wecoisus, and I approve this message.

Angufams Wecoisus
President-elect, World Cup Committee

LIES, SLANDER AND LIES!

The only reason why taxes are needed is to allow the WCC President-elect(currently one Angufams Wecoisus) to take expensive vacations around the world to "scout out potential World Cup Hosts".

As for terrorists, they only attack countries like errinundera and Arridia.

The silent minority has spoken...(uhm.. guess we're not silent anymore now..)

(disclaimer: the above post is not endorsed by the rulers of qazox)

Now... what about them taxes? (and you forgot Casari...)

To: The World Cup Committee office #1093
From: La Fédération Nationale Septentionale de Football (Fedénatfoot)

We are sorry to tell mr. the president of the World Cup Committee that we are unable to pay taxes for the moment. Reason 1) We just started our national association, so we need time to set things up. Reason 2) Well, no taxation without representation. We are not members of the WCC yet, but we plan on joining for the 40th World Cup.

Sincerely yours

Member #1093 of the Fédénatfoot

P.S. Look at my sig to know who I am ;)

What happened to Oliverry?

Surrendered.

Well, they WERE very sharp kumquats.

Surrendered.

Well, they WERE very sharp kumquats.

Maybe it was a bad idea selling those Kumquat catapaults to them terrorists.

Please don't forget that the WCC has at its disposal a bank account in the Econômico Bank of Cafundéu, which can keep all the money from these taxes in exchange of a small percentage (you know, we need to pay the security guards, the beautiful secretaries, the computer genius that makes our alarm system...)

And, if you accept to create an account here in the Econômico Bank, you can also borrow some money from us, without having to spend some time as account holders (as some other banks require). Of course this kind of loan has a bigger interest rate...

What happened to Oliverry?

Boredom, I'd say. I prefer starting anew

What are these taxes you speak of?

Regrettably, "No Taxation without Representation" is insufficient argument, as by entering a team you agree to all procedures, such as the raising of funds. Participation is optional, not compulsory.

I also seem to see the fault in the concept of traveling to visit these host countries. Personally, I couldn't care less about visiting these potential hosts, as long as they do a good job.

And while the offer of banking is nice, we just spent all that money putting a vault in WCC Headquarters for the money we're going to get from the member Federations/Associations/whatever, so we might as well use that investment.

Boredom, I'd say. I prefer starting anew

N00b jk.

As the incoming Vice President (Aye, we don't know either), we would like to reassure the particularly whiny affiliated committees who choose to enter a team into the World Cup, and who have thankfully listed themselves above, that the non-payment of dues would be a particularly pressing reason in ignoring any complaints that you care to make over the play and officiating of events. ( :p )

However, for those who have decided that cash is unneeded, payment will happily be taken in Food, High-priced commodities, IT support, or Janitorial/Maintenance work. Someone has to water the Kumquat trees.

With all our love, naturally-
Felix Northumbria
WCC Vice President

Hands off our rubber chicken supply! We may need them for a mass sacrifice to Margaret if we need some luck.;)

The Monastic Football Federation has arranged to send some of our rare and valuable holy head lice to the Casaran Football Federation in lieu of the monetary taxation requested since we are unable to provide the latter.

That will be wonderful for the Casaran Football Federation, but unfortunately, the organization that plays in the World Cup in Casari does not use that name. The WCC would he happy to accept quantities of thin monastery gruel to serve in the building cafeteria, however.

Will 1093 donkeys be a sufficient payment from Sorthern Northland? They're probably worth a lot more than any amount of SN Rubles you care to think of are.

Regrettably, the government of the Pazhujeb Islands has spent so much money on cockroach research that it will be unable to front the dues requested by the WCC. We do, however, hope that you will accept the olive branch of two indentured servants. They are honorary Pazhujebi citizens who have a knack for solving mysteries, foiling criminals, and making politically incorrect 1950s-era assumptions about minorities. We're trying to get rid of them.

The QSC (Qazox Sports Council) will pay the sum total of 5 Zaqs in taxes. (1 Zaq= $0.52 so here's $2.60)

The BFSA requires a publically released budget before even considering donating to the WCC.

The Republic of Sel Appa and the Football Federation of Sel Appa steadfastly refuse to pay any tax, duty, tariff, fee, and/or other payment to the World Cup Committee without justification. To do so would be considered bribery under Sel Appan law.

Sincerely,
Sharon Eiboln
FFSA President

I believe you're quite mistaken- you're not "donating" or "giving" or "paying taxes", this is purely pay-to-play, people, and if you're not willing to pay, well, go play Field Hockey, as we'll be rather disinterested in providing any kind of officials for your matches and might misinterpret your results. :p

That being said, the only offer which is satisfactory so far is of the indentured servants- surely they will make adequate office entertainment.

The donkeys are also a possibility, as we maintain a serious need for pack animals.

I believe you're quite mistaken- you're not "donating" or "giving" or "paying taxes", this is purely pay-to-play, people, and if you're not willing to pay, well, go play Field Hockey, as we'll be rather disinterested in providing any kind of officials for your matches and might misinterpret your results. :p

That being said, the only offer which is satisfactory so far is of the indentured servants- surely they will make adequate office entertainment.

The donkeys are also a possibility, as we maintain a serious need for pack animals.

Say, are Dazza Dallas-look alike females working are secretaries working at NSWC HQ OK? :D

Say, are Dazza Dallas-look alike females working are secretaries working at NSWC HQ OK? :D

Well if you really need pack animals, then we can donate a few Qazian Oxen to the cause, although they are quarter-breeds, but they still have the stamina of the full-blooded Qazian Ox. (ie: can plow 27 acres a day or so).

Candelariasians like nothing better than paying taxes, and the Candelaria And Marquez Association Football Association will be happy to pay in the form of Money.

We do however trust that the glorious new administration will have more respect for its premier competition than to follow the lead of the outgoing leadership and present the World Cup to a country of non-existant beings and another ludicrously claiming an entire planet as part of its territory. You weirdos.

I'd just like to add that no-one at CAMAFA HQ knows what kumquats are, and don't want to.

Yrs,
Owen Jones
President, CAMAFA

That will be wonderful for the Casaran Football Federation, but unfortunately, the organization that plays in the World Cup in Casari does not use that name. The WCC would he happy to accept quantities of thin monastery gruel to serve in the building cafeteria, however.

You think that our monks are so pampered that they'd eat something as luxurious as gruel?

This wanton disregard for Orthodox tradition is precisely what's destroying this once-great competition. It's a mere shadow of the tournament it was before the Catholic-led anti-Orthodox conspiracy forced us out of the top 10.

That said, we are sending you a shipment of birch bark instead of gruel. Many of our monastics lick this bark during fast seasons, and we're sure you'll find it equally as nutritious.

The Kingdom of Dancougar College Football Regulatory Board is the closest thing we have to a national body, and as an amateur organization, it is generally underfunded. We would gladly pay any entrance fee to join the international footballing scene, but, lamentably, our tournament budgets have not yet been approved. We can, however, provide generous amounts of condoms, ramen noodles, and Calculus: Early Trancendentals.

The Grand Commonwealth refuses to pay anything to this new adminstration and will not be forcing any member nations that end up in the Grand Commonwealth for the Proper to pay taxes either. Fight the oppression!

The Grand Commonwealth refuses to pay anything to this new adminstration and will not be forcing any member nations that end up in the Grand Commonwealth for the Proper to pay taxes either. Fight the oppression!

Libertarians deserve no respect, so pay taxes. As I already said, we are entering in WC40, so we don't have to pay yet. But I heard that a nation known as Oliverry were happy to pay Ø1093...

That being said, the only offer which is satisfactory so far is of the indentured servants- surely they will make adequate office entertainment.

The donkeys are also a possibility, as we maintain a serious need for pack animals.

How dare you!? The donkeys are now angry that they have only been deemed as a possibility rather than a satisfactory offer. As a result of this Pedro, King of the Donkeys is being sent to your offices to bray angrily at you for two whole hours.

The offer still stands however.

PS: Whilst Pedro is outside your offices can you please keep him away from anything shaggable as he is rather frisky.

PPS: As a member of whatever the governing body of football in NSverse is called, do we get a free basket of kumquats when they are ripe?

Should the calculus textbooks prove insufficiently useful for technical support, we could always-

*static*

What? What? You say we don't want to get kicked out of the committee?

*more static*

Ahem. As I was saying, we would be more than happy to supply the committee with a mountain goat that is likely to serve equally well as pack animal or object of blame.

Belinda Littlewood
wry bureaucrat

Meanwhile, in the event it has been missed in the forum or in telegrams to participants, Baptism of Fire 26 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547656).

The SFA flatly refuses to pay any tax, certainly not one destined to be spent on vegetable gardens. However, if the NSFA is agreeable, we could persuade the Squornshelan military to donate the same value in munitions. Such a donation could be guarunteed to arrive with great speed and accuracy at the new NSFA headquarters, with no shipping costs necessary.

I believe you're quite mistaken- you're not "donating" or "giving" or "paying taxes", this is purely pay-to-play, people, and if you're not willing to pay, well, go play Field Hockey, as we'll be rather disinterested in providing any kind of officials for your matches and might misinterpret your results. :p

That being said, the only offer which is satisfactory so far is of the indentured servants- surely they will make adequate office entertainment.

The donkeys are also a possibility, as we maintain a serious need for pack animals.

Fees were included in the list of payments not acceptable.

SIC: Do to the continued demands for payment, an arrest warrant has been issued for Mr. Felix Northumbria of Casari on charges of corruption and accepting bribes. Should he step foot in Sel Appa, he will be promptly detained.

SIC: Do to the continued demands for payment, a warrant has been issued for Mr. Felix Northumbria of Casari on charges of corruption and accepting bribes. Should he step foot in Sel Appa, he will be promptly detained.

as a bunch of Frenchies, Sel Appans will surrender before anything happens :p

We regret the fact that the donkeys of Sorthern Northland would be offended- we intended the statement of "a possibility" to indicate our interest and eagerly await their arrival. We would also happily accept the bartering offers of oxen, sexy clerical staff, bark (as long as it was not stripped from completely around trees, sentancing them to an insect-filled death), and weapons in exchange for entry fees- pending the economists' determination of the products' resale value.

Fees were included in the list of payments not acceptable.

SIC: Do to the continued demands for payment, a warrant has been issued for Mr. Felix Northumbria of Casari on charges of corruption and accepting bribes. Should he step foot in Sel Appa, he will be promptly detained.

While temporarily ignoring the fact that Sel Appa has no legal authority over Mr. Northumbria, the Government of Casari has issued a response:

TO: The Esteemed Government of Sel Appa:

Haha, wankers.

Sincerely,
Meia Winter,
Premier, Confederated Colonies of Casari

The office of Mr. Northumbria would also like to note that in the case of nonpayment of entry fees to what seems to have been universally termed the NSFA, the payment and transport of any officials required for matches of sides with a delinquent account will not be taken care of by the NSFA. Delinquent sides will have to locate and hire officials of suitable ability and international standing (as determined by the Officiating Committee) from a nation not participating in the match and with no affiliation to either of the nations participating (hereafter known as third party officials) for matches to be considered valid. Matches not meeting these criteria will be considered happily forfeited.

I've figured out how the NSWC will end!!!

>>>In a fury over taxes, individual member states not willing to pay whatever the taxes were about left the WCC and formed a new rival world cup committee, which drew players away from both world cups. In the end, neither had enough players to play, so the world cup committees merged and then...

Waitaminit! This is supposed to be the end of the NSWC!!!




and anyway, if the NSWCC willingly presents the Han Emperor 1500 pounds of silver upon 16 magnificent white horses from Mongolia, he will gladly pay your "tax".

Please send All cheques to "The WCC President"
at the WCC HQ

...

Hah, stupid Casarans.... They've forgotten that until WC40 starts I'm still the pres!

We regret the fact that the donkeys of Sorthern Northland would be offended- we intended the statement of "a possibility" to indicate our interest and eagerly await their arrival.

Ah I see. On behalf the donkeys I wish to thank you for the interest andhe can only apologise for Pedro braying angrily at you for the last hour or so. For the next couple of hours he shall bray pleasingly at you and randomly shag anything that moves for the entertainment of any children who may be at the WCC HQ.

We shall round up 1037 of the finest donkeys our nation has to offer and send you them shortly.

PS: Don't forget the kumquats.

The office of Mr. Northumbria would also like to note that in the case of nonpayment of entry fees to what seems to have been universally termed the NSFA, the payment and transport of any officials required for matches of sides with a delinquent account will not be taken care of by the NSFA. Delinquent sides will have to locate and hire officials of suitable ability and international standing (as determined by the Officiating Committee) from a nation not participating in the match and with no affiliation to either of the nations participating (hereafter known as third party officials) for matches to be considered valid. Matches not meeting these criteria will be considered happily forfeited.
Capitalizt SLANI offers to provide international match officials to any association in need, at no cost beyond the officials’ wages (and can accept this payment in many different commodities). It is currently negotiating deals with multiple other associations to provide officials for its own matches, thus rendering the NSFA entirely irrelevant, and exposing the WCC vice-president–elect as nothing more than a powerless bully.
SLANI can also provide kumquat vendors along with the match officials, however, that particular service is for-profit. :p

While unaware of how it would be bullying when it seemingly neglected to set an actual price, we will happily undercut any Capitalist SLANI prices, and if necessary, break in and threaten them with our newly acquired weapons, which we have discovered is prone to cause Capitalizts to cave faster than the previously mentioned French. :p Or maybe humor(humour) or fun, as they seem against those as well.

Hell, worse comes to worse, the Committee could just inflate the prices you pay for a television deal. It's all about the monies, yo.

The Az-cz thieves guild would like to calm the minds of all member nations who fear that they will have to pay exorbinant taxes to the World Cup Comittee. We are offering to pay the dues for all nations who might be burdened by such fees like Errinundera and Ariddia. You might ask how we do such a thing. Easily :) We'll just rob the fat cats of places like Commerce Heights.

That's very generous of you. :p

Ariddia (awakening briefly from slumber) isn't going to scrape the bottom of its empty coffers to send money (which it hasn't got) to Casari.

However, Ariddian singer Chang Xue (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/chang_xue.html) has graciously offered to sing the national anthems at the start of six of the fifteen World Cup finals matches. As long as said anthems are in a language she can pronounce. Syokaji, Chinese, French or English would be ideal. This in lieu of any form of payment from Ariddia.

The Ariddian Football Association considers that any performance of the ulek (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/ulek.html) -listed as an intangible treasure on the World Heritage Sites & Treasures List- is a sufficient crowd drawer to bring in revenue to the World Cup organisers. And declines to point out that Ariddia really should be paid by the organisers for performing it. So there. :p

Everyone assume this money is for me, and I find that a bit insulting. Do you want the poor kumquat trees to die? :p

VFR Headquarters, Meice
Room 105, President's Office

WCC President-elect and current VFR President (his term isn't up until shortly before he actually takes the new office) Angufams Wecoisus rubs his hands together evilly.

"Haha, all those fools have forgotten that this proposed 'tax' was my idea in the first place! I knew having a Casaran VP would be helpful somehow..."

The bad news - I can access the forums from work
The good news - The reply button doesn't show up so I can't talk :(

I think it's fair to say most people will agree with the good and bad there :p

The Ariddian Football Association considers that any performance of the ulek (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/ulek.html) -listed as an intangible treasure on the World Heritage Sites & Treasures List- is a sufficient crowd drawer to bring in revenue to the World Cup organisers. And declines to point out that Ariddia really should be paid by the organisers for performing it. So there. :p

Ariddians? Accepting money? Oooh there's a story :p

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Milchama bomb kumquat trees face wrath of the world

In a second accidental attack by the Milchamian military this decade the Milchama armed forces bombed the kumquat trees outside of the WCC headquarters in Casari today. Nobody is quite sure how the military managed to sneak in 10 fighter bombers over Casaran airspace or how they didn't manage to actually the building or why they were mad considering Milchama had already paid over 1 billion bobs in taxes to the WCC and EWCC in exchange for certain favors.

International response has been swift as the WCC has considered withdrawing Milchama from competition and some of the Milchamian mountain ranges have been leveled by Squornshelian military technology. The Milchamian FA has apologized for the incident saying, "At least nobody got hurt" and sending over 1 trillion genetically modified fast growing kumquat seeds to the headquarters so that their kumquat tree garden could be, "better than ever before." Former FA President Calvin Chintermantomantomantoman said, "This would have never happened under my administration. This lax job of military oversight by the FA's military department is ludicrous and oh shit."

Apparently the FA has their own military department. More on this story as it develops.

With Norman Hacker in charge, the Swifts find that a tax is the best form of defence.

SIC: Do to the continued demands for payment, an arrest warrant has been issued for Mr. Angufams Wecoisus of Vephrall on charges of corruption and accepting bribes. Should he step foot in Sel Appa, he will be promptly detained.

NEMNENAIT--Sel Appan Secret Intelligence Service has filed a closed request in court requesting they be granted permission to undergo operations to capture, detain, and bring to Sel Appa the two wanted persons from Casari and Vephrall. If granted, they will be permitted to dispatch agents to execute the two arrest warrants.

OOC: On a side note, Sel Appa has the death penalty for corruption and bribery crimes. It hasn't been used in decades, but such a high-profile case would probably see it used.

There is a single depressing problem, of course- WCC Headquarters aren't in Casari.

However, we do regret the destruction of the garden and wall of Saint Anthony's Asylum, but thankfully most of the crazies were rounded up before they caused any real damage, bless their souls. All of the patients rue the loss of their Tangerine Orchards, though, and eagerly await the growth of new trees.

We are ready to give the WCC 10 ninety trees. These ninety trees give some good ninety fruit and, thus, are valuable for everyone in the world. These ninety trees are worth Ø2,186 each, so take care of them please

(OOC:congrats to the new prez. now, what about them taxes?

Dangnabit Daehan look what you started!!!! [with unfortunately a little help from myself....]Your $50.00 club fee is due...

IC: As for Qazox, the offer of 5 Qazian Oxen seems fair, just keep them away from the kumquats. They give the oxen a nasty case of gas.

Ariddians? Accepting money? Oooh there's a story :p

It's being hushed up even as we speak. Not that Ariddians ever hush up compromising stories. Any rumour to the contary shall be hushed up too. :D

What's being hushed up? :p

[ic] "I see our ally was bombed."

"Albeit 'accidentally', PM."

"'Accidentally on purpose' no doubt. Any word from Winter?"

"No, PM. Though the forces the EOR still has stationed in Casari are on high alert."

"Right. Keep me updated."

Here is something of interest to all:

Qazox: Join Date: 18-01-2006

It's my 2nd anniversary here in this place my god where did the time go.

Here is something of interest to all:

Qazox: Join Date: 18-01-2006

It's my 2nd anniversary here in this place my god where did the time go.

Good for you.

I'm serious about my offer. If the WCC wants me to pay "taxes" they must first present the tribute offering. Otherwise, there is no need to pay the tax. And speaking of which, we do realize that Bazalonia is still president, so it's not like anyone should be paying Casari or Vephrall (or Bazalonia, it should be to the WCC!!!). And that said, I've got another way we can start arguing over trivial stuff, but I'll save it until the World Cup proper (only as a guarantee that you'll stick around and drop those ridiculous member fees that no one really has to pay).

While this has been amusing and a number of things have been invented (from where, I have no idea (especally the NSFA, I have no idea where that came from)) and I would love to flush out the inner workings of the WCC in an IC fashion (there has to be more than two people behind the scenes), I'm quite frankly out of witty responses to people having serious responses to my rampant BS. :p But, thankfully, we managed to get Northumbria back into his padded cell, where he's happily playing with his My Little Pony playset.

But we're happy to welcome a leader that's not... well, not particularly mad, I suppose... but, well... okay, kind of mad, but in a much more lovable way. The kind that drives around in tanks and orders her players to kick the players of an unnamed country in their unnamed bits... World Cup 29 Winning Coach and mother to the biggest phenomenon in Casaran Soccer, one Doctor Vivica Hill.

(Don't ask what the degree is in, by the way.)

I've got a real kumquat tree at home. !@##%%^ cockatoos keep on destroying the fruit.

I've got a real kumquat tree at home. !@##%%^ cockatoos keep on destroying the fruit.

Things You Didn't Think You'd Read Today No. 46.

Things You Didn't Think You'd Read Today No. 46.

Another one would be...

Candelaria And Marquez Celebrates Mouse Friendship Day!

Another one would be...

Candelaria And Marquez Celebrates Mouse Friendship Day!

We've no problem with mice at all, just ones who try and talk to us. It's unnatural.

I have that sort of attitude towards girls as well...

Good thing I type out my messages, isn't it?

-Littlewood

*tries to resurrect NSWC Discussion Thread because Zwangzug apparently drowned it with an utterly simple message that no one really wants to understand*

*drinks some rubbing alcohol to sooth the pain*