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And I couldn't support a host that would give a nation that's been in the WC already a BoF. :p

And I cannot support a host who's been bitching about the randomness of the cup :p

And I cannot support a host who's been bitching about the randomness of the cup :p

I cannot support a thread that allows Az-cz to post the 1000th post.

EDIT: Sorry I meant the 1000th reply lol

I cannot support a thread that allows Az-cz to post the 1000th post.

You're lucky, because I got the 1,000th. Az got the 1,000th reply.

Az: the only reason we even talked about letting returning nations into the BoF was because the point was made that they never got a BoF in the first place to boost their rank pre-cup. Kry has had that chance. To be frank I think you're just finding things to argue about, and in case you haven't noticed a lot of people are getting sick of it.

You're lucky, because I got the 1,000th. Az got the 1,000th reply.

Az: the only reason we even talked about letting returning nations into the BoF was because the point was made that they never got a BoF in the first place to boost their rank pre-cup. Kry has had that chance. To be frank I think you're just finding things to argue about.

I never played in a BoF either, I started one cup too early.

I never played in a BoF either, I started one cup too early.

Yeah, and the point of the recent discussion is that should you quit and come back with no rank you'd be let in to the BoF (at hosts' discretion), since you never had a chance to boost your zero rank previously (putting you at a disadvantage in your cup compared to BoF nations).

Well, I'd like to announce that this will be my final Cup with any nation. I've been participating in this for as long as pretty much anyone (and I think in fact, the longest participant with the same nation, but I'm not sure on that it really matters). Quite simply, I've reached the edge of my interest in this particular game. Also, I think I really should point out that, even though we've got a lot of good guys coming back, I'm simply sick and tired of this community. I would name names, but I think most people will know whom I speak of, so I simply won't waste my time doing so. Despite all this, it's been a great run, and I've enjoyed the time I've spent here. And I'll still be here, on IRC so I won't be far.

So long all, it's been a blast.

EDIT: and wow, with my 1,000 post. How's that for a coincidence?

Well, I'd like to announce that this will be my final Cup with any nation.


Sorry that you decided to leave.

If anything i've said in either thread contributed to this decsion, i apologize for it.

Hope that you'll comeback at some point, though, We'll miss you.


And yes, LE Az-cz has been a bit arguementitive lately, this coming from one ornery SOB.

Oh yeah, Jeruselem I went there.

The post is sort of a "WE hate the Dallas Clan" and a re-imagining of why you bombed in WC 34.

Please feel free to respond any way.

Oh yeah, Jeruselem I went there.

The post is sort of a "WE hate the Dallas Clan" and a re-imagining of why you bombed in WC 34.

Please feel free to respond any way.

One issue - Kate Dallas would have been just six years old during WC34! :p

What the heck happened to the Old thread?

Also I'm back.. back again, GW's back, tell a friend..

And yes I have time to RP this time around, unlike the last 2 Cups. (guess i missed out on WC37 huh?)

Got too big and "corrupted" - and then got deleted ...

*** Let's do the time warp again ***

What the heck happened to the Old thread?

Also I'm back.. back again, GW's back, tell a friend..

And yes I have time to RP this time around, unlike the last 2 Cups. (guess i missed out on WC37 huh?)

So????

who's to say that a 6-yr old can't be a spy?

So who, would be a better choice then??

Try Kate Bush, the current coach ... she was actually assistant coach at the time.

*** @$%^&^*& time warps ***

One issue - Kate Dallas would have been just six years old during WC34! :p

So????

who's to say that a 6-yr old can't be a spy?

So who, would be a better choice then??

*** Let's do the time warp again ***

I have to do this or else it will drive me crazy all-night.

(Thank Jeruselem for starting it):

It's just a jump to the left.
And then a step to the right.

With your hands on your hips.
You bring your knees in tight.

But it's the pelvic thrust
That really drives you insane.

Let's do the time-warp again!

LE,

I'm sorry that I upset you, but this is the world cup discussion thread. I haven't been taking positions just to argue. My belief about RP and randomness is longstanding and I think it's perfectly reasonable to wonder why some nations without KpBs are allowed to have BoFs and others aren't. I have been avoiding personal attacks, I think, and don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to state my opinion.

LE,

I'm sorry that I upset you, but this is the world cup discussion thread. I haven't been taking positions just to argue. My belief about RP and randomness is longstanding and I think it's perfectly reasonable to wonder why some nations without KpBs are allowed to have BoFs and others aren't. I have been avoiding personal attacks, I think, and don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to state my opinion.

You haven't upset me, oh no. But you've pissed about ten people off with your continuous harping on something you've been told is NON EXISTANT.

You haven't upset me, oh no. But you've pissed about ten people off with your continuous harping on something you've been told is NON EXISTANT.

Az-cz, just letting you know, You haven't ticked me off yet, but the tone of your points lately has put some people off.

Besides, IT'S JUST A GAME!

Hi again everyone - I'm putting together my new national team and i'm hoping to bring in an experienced foreign coach. would anyone be willing to RP this with me?

Re: BoFs for returning nations.
The BoF should be a one-time only participation for nations with zero KPB points. You get one shot at it, if you've not had a shot previously and your KPBs have been zeroised, then you have a chance. Otherwise you could possibly have one user with three or four nations going round and round until one of them wins the BoF. 'Winning the Baptism of Fire at their fifth attempt...' is a load of crap.


Re: TLC - Been here a long time, matey, and we've done some cool things - don't rule out coming back :)


Pazhujeb: I've got a ton of ex-internationals off in club management, and an Under-21s manager desperate for a senior team. My last WC coach is now 71 years old, too, if you don't mind bringing a zimmer frame to the dugout... :D

Star,

Good point. I hadn't thought about someone repeatedly playing in the BoF. You're right that wouldn't be good at all. But it still feels as if there ought to be some way to allow old nations who have played in a BoF another shot at it. I'm not sure how best to do such a thing. Maybe some sort of time limit.

LE and Qaz,

I'm not sure why I'm upsetting people. I understand that some people disagree with me, but I see no reason why the way they see things has to be true. I'm pretty certain Erri agrees with me and I think there are a number of other people who do as well.

*** Let's do the time warp again ***

Indeedy! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10704474&postcount=100)
Double indeedy! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10709440&postcount=125)
And, of course, triple indeedy, too. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10716407&postcount=135)

Good point. I hadn't thought about someone repeatedly playing in the BoF. You're right that wouldn't be good at all. But it still feels as if there ought to be some way to allow old nations who have played in a BoF another shot at it. I'm not sure how best to do such a thing. Maybe some sort of time limit.

I think any repeat of being in the BoF is a dumb idea, really. It has to be one shot at the competition, no more.

I think any repeat of being in the BoF is a dumb idea, really. It has to be one shot at the competition, no more.

I think BoF is really for getting rookie/newbie teams a bit of experience at RPing before the World Cup. It helps the KPB a little and if you win it, it's great but no guarantee you'll actually qualify.

(Damn, my Tardis isn't working ...)

I cannot support any BoF host who would give a nation who's already had a BoF a second BoF.

Actually after reading all the comments about this, I'm a bit less supportive of returns to the BoF, but it should be an final option to fill in positions for an even number of teams, if necessary.

I cannot support a thread that allows Az-cz to post the 1000th post.

EDIT: Sorry I meant the 1000th reply lol

No, Az did have the 1000th post. The OP is numbered 1.

I'm just surprised people can get that desperate for KPB points. :p

I see one problem with the argument that people would only enter one every few cups to they could be in the BoF each time. If you wanted to be in it again, you could just make up a new nation every cup. =p

I'd support nations being given a second go in the BoF, as long as that nation happened to be mine and I win the competition. :p

Re: BoFs for returning nations.
The BoF should be a one-time only participation for nations with zero KPB points. You get one shot at it, if you've not had a shot previously and your KPBs have been zeroised, then you have a chance. Otherwise you could possibly have one user with three or four nations going round and round until one of them wins the BoF. 'Winning the Baptism of Fire at their fifth attempt...' is a load of crap.

Methinks the Men In Mauve are scared that their first game back in would be a 5-0 crushing to the Cyan Army (TM).

:p

Methinks the Men In Mauve are scared that their first game back in would be a 5-0 crushing to the Cyan Army (TM).

:p

I'm jealous ...

Hi again everyone - I'm putting together my new national team and i'm hoping to bring in an experienced foreign coach. would anyone be willing to RP this with me?

Squornshelan National Team Manager Jan Jorgenson is probably about to be sacked, if Squornshelous exits in the first round, so he'd be looking for work, and as Star noted, most countries' recently retired international's are moving on to coaching.

The Pazhujeb Islands

The current Jeru FC coach Abrams Tunk (ex-World Cup striker and captain) could be interested ...

Jeru FC is just my crappy army team.

Qaz, do you know how to make a swiss-style that uses non-binary(2, 4, 8, 16,...) number of teams? Or anyone for that matter...

Qaz, do you know how to make a swiss-style that uses non-binary(2, 4, 8, 16,...) number of teams? Or anyone for that matter...

I think one of Qaz's Q-Cup or Oxen cups was Swiss-style.

Sel,

There's no need for it to be binary. It doesn't necessarily have to have an even number of teams, but it really should as having byes is problematic. All you have to do is matchup teams with the closest amount of points without having already played. So if there are a non-binary number of teams than you just have some matchups between teams on different points. It's not too difficult. If you need further examples TG me and I'll try to help. If you want an example of big tournaments that are swiss, all of the magic: the gathering tournaments are run in a swiss style.

Qaz, do you know how to make a swiss-style that uses non-binary(2, 4, 8, 16,...) number of teams? Or anyone for that matter...

Yes

IE: a 9 team swiss tourney:
4 1-0 teams
1 bye
4 0-1 teams.

The highest ranked 1-0 team gets a bye, while the #2 and #3 play each other and #4 and the bye play, while all of the 0-1's play each other. Then just continue to have the highest team have a bye until there's only 2 unbeaten teams left. Expand as needed for any odd # of teams. (My suggestion is to have the highest ranked team get the 1st bye, then work on it from there). This is how you do it for an eranking/elimination swiss, for a Normal swiss, just pretend it's a qualifing group.

I think one of Qaz's Q-Cup or Oxen cups was Swiss-style.

#2 was...

Speaking of which.. OXEN Cup IV will be starting as soon as the group stages are done in the World Cup. All 16 non-advancing teams are invited to participate, if they so choose.

I guess Oickoidia's luck ran out today :D

Hi again everyone - I'm putting together my new national team and i'm hoping to bring in an experienced foreign coach. would anyone be willing to RP this with me?

Kevin Hugh was recently sacked as manager of Sorthern Northland, how much do you want us to pay you to take him off our hands?

As per here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12950148&postcount=7), the first tiebreaker after points is head-to-head, which goes along with this RP (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/NSLE/NationStates/BSA5broadcastNSWC.png) but not this table (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13115692&postcount=28). Yeah, I'm just greedy like that.

Legal and I forgot to sort the tables for H2H over GD, and by the time I was reminded, Legal had left. You're right, though, Zwangzug are second in Group A, not third.

If there isn't one, someone should compile a list of what the people from each country are called, what the adjective for that country is and so on.

If there isn't one, someone should compile a list of what the people from each country are called, what the adjective for that country is and so on.

Like?

Country: Jeruselem
Team Nickname: Crusaders
Derogatory Team Nickname: Bikes
Name of peoples: Jeruselemites
Short name of peoples: Jerus
Adjective: Jeruselemite
Short adjective: Jeru

Cant' ye just look at the wiki?

Noun: Spaam
Adjective: Spaamanian

NOT Spaamian.

Is there a wiki that has that listed? Or do you mean looking it up for each team? If so, no. :) But if there was one wiki that had that listed it would be great.

Can I be the first to campaign against a Standard Adjective Wiki? Personally, I love seeing all the half-arsed attempts at Candelariasian...

So people in Spaam are Spaamanians?

People from Az-cz are Az-czzers. Things from Az-cz are Az-czzid.

Kevin Hugh was recently sacked as manager of Sorthern Northland, how much do you want us to pay you to take him off our hands?

Despite Mr. Hugh's <cough> history of inspiring confidence in his players, shall we say, he has been added to our list of NT manager nominees. ;)

Do we have CoH hosts yet?

Supposedly, yes. In reality? Not so much.

What I meant was that anyone who'd be bothered by other people getting their adjectives right probably has it on the wiki somewhere, so just go check.

i did an rp based on that a few cups ago


one of my best rps.....

My favorite is still the kick-the-Bedistanis-in-the-groin RP.

Out of curiosity, does anyone have the IRC logs from the day that Star and Kry did the football chants back and forth?

There's a copy on Memorable Threads.

I'll dig it up for you.

CUP OF HARMONY

For those nations/masters of puppets who do not check their telegrams or log onto their main NS page frequently, the thread for the Cup of Harmony is open and is available at: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540273

On behalf of my co-host, I'd like to express my apologies to those invited for the lateness of the thread, as RL issues have affected both my and Qutar's ability to get online at the same time.

Voila! WC25 vintage chantage!

[13:23] <Starblaydia> thats what gave you bloody 6th rank instead of me! i went down to 10th!!!
[13:23] * Krytenia laughs maniacally
[13:24] * Starblaydia will brb
[13:24] <Krytenia> "Are you Hiiraan, are you Hiiraan, are you Hiiraan in disguise?"
[13:25] <Starblaydia> "sing when i'm afk, you only sing when I'm afk"
[13:26] <Krytenia> "Where are ya? Where are ya?"
[13:27] <Starblaydia> "we are the champions, champions of AO"
[13:27] <Krytenia> "Round Of Sixteen? You're havin a laugh!"
[13:28] <Starblaydia> "we've only won it four times, we're gonna win it five times"
[13:30] <Krytenia> "There's only one Gabe Kennedy, There's only one Gabe Kennedy"
[13:30] <Starblaydia> "dave van staaren, dave van staaren, do you take her up the arsenal?"
[13:31] <Krytenia> "who's the w**ker in the mauve?"
[13:31] <Starblaydia> "its all gone democratic over there"
[13:32] <Krytenia> "We've got a busty chick, you've got a despotic"
[13:33] <Starblaydia> "who's that drowning by the pool side, whos that lying in the sun?"
[13:34] <Krytenia> lmao!
[13:34] * Starblaydia wins!
[13:34] <Krytenia> "Swim when we're winning, we only swim when we're winning"
[13:36] <Starblaydia> "his name is Mitrofanis, he flys a magic kite, and when he saw Everton City, he said 'what a load of shite"
[13:37] <Krytenia> "He's dull, he's thick, he's into politics, SDB, SDB"
[13:38] <Starblaydia> "ooh, aah, Tumunzahar! say ooh-aah Tumunzahar""
[13:40] <Krytenia> "GABE THE STRIKER! Can he score it? GABE THE STRIKER! Yes he can!"
[13:40] <Starblaydia> "two nil, in south osettia! two nil, in south osettia!"
[13:43] <Krytenia> "we're on top of the world, looking down on Starblaydia"
[13:44] <Starblaydia> "stand up, if you hate lamoni"
[13:45] <Krytenia> "stand up, if you hate the Sarz"
[13:45] * Starblaydia stands
[13:45] * Krytenia also stands
[13:46] <Starblaydia> "Lazerevski's purple-white army!"
[13:47] <Krytenia> "his name is Loserevski, he used to play a bit, but now he is the manager his team are total s**t"
[13:48] <Starblaydia> "Buathiang, Buathiang, his name's too long, he's got no song, Surachai Buathiang"
[13:49] <Krytenia> "He's old, he's grey, he'll stop you anyway, Barcali, Barcali"
[13:50] <Starblaydia> "Star-blade-yer, Star-blade-yer, Star-blade-yer" (repeat ad infinitum, ad nauseam)
[13:51] <Krytenia> "Kry-Ten-Ya, Kry-Ten-Ya, Kry-Ten, Ya" (repeat until hoarse)
[13:52] <Starblaydia> "away in krytenia, no quids for a bed, little lord tiberius sat up and he said, 'Star-blade-yer! Star-blade-yer! Star-blade-yer!'"
[13:54] <Krytenia> "sing a song a sixpence a pocket full of rye, four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie, when the pie was open the birds began to sing, We hate Starblayde and we hate Starblayde"
[13:55] <Starblaydia> "He wears, a robe, like Shakespeare in The Globe, Mercutio! Mercutio!"
[13:57] <Krytenia> "We are the Krytie Boys, We are the Krytie Boys, you are the Blaydie Girls, you are the Blaydie Girls"
[13:58] <Starblaydia> "now he's not the world's most skillful guy, when he sits in midfield he plays like an ass-raid-er, Ol-Ol-Oli Kader"
[14:00] <Krytenia> "he's sh*te, and sh*te, and sh*te and sh*te and sh*te, sh*te sh*te sh*te, sh*te sh*te sh*te, The Itchy Matranga Show!"
[14:01] <Starblaydia> "forty years, you've won f*ck-all, forty years, you've won f*ck-all"
[14:02] <Krytenia> "Oh, Mitro Mitro, he went to Phraen Palace and he won f*ck-all"
[14:02] <Starblaydia> "I saw his dad, I saw his bruv, I even saw his niece, but see Itechton on the pitch and that's why he wins the league
[14:04] <Krytenia> "DVS, DVS, DVS DVS na na. DVS, DVS, DVS DVS na na, DVS, DVS, and we all love DVS, we're gonna score one more than you, ACES!"
[14:05] <Starblaydia> "Is-kara Da-ii (won the) Champions League! Is-kara Da-ii (won the) Champions League!"
[14:07] <Krytenia> "You're going home, you're going home, you're going, Blades are going home" (a WC24 special!)
[14:07] <Starblaydia> "More dwarves! they're only four foot tall, they're gonna win it all, you're gonna win f*ck all!"
[14:09] <Krytenia> "Win when you're skating, you only win when you're skating"
[14:10] <Starblaydia> "Score with E40, you couldn't score with E40"
[14:11] <Krytenia> "His name is Greenow and he dances on the wing, and when he nutmegs you it makes us want to sing"
[14:11] <Starblaydia> "You're going home in a cyan ambulance!"
[14:14] <Krytenia> "Come on without, come on within. You'll not see nothing like Staver-in."
[14:15] <Starblaydia> "Oh-oh-oh, Garcia, oh-oh-oh, Garcia! Cherry's really fit, she also plays a bit!"
[14:17] <Krytenia> "Ke-e-da, whoa-oh-oh-oh! Ke-e-da, whoa-oh-oh-oh! He comes from Hoxton town! He's gonna take you down!"
[14:17] <Starblaydia> "All Krytie bastards, you know you're all Krytie bastards"
[14:20] <Krytenia> "He's crap, he's pish, he's sleeping with the fish, Salisbury, Salisbury"
[14:22] <Starblaydia> "who ate all the pies, who ate all the pies? Krytie Fatwah! Krytie Fatwah! You ate all the pies."
[14:23] <Krytenia> "Chim-Chiminy, Chim-Chiminy, Chim-Chim-Cheroo, his name is Phil Neasden, he's better than you"
[14:24] <Starblaydia> "he bald, he's shit, he plays when no-ones fit, Florencio, Florencio!"
[14:25] <Krytenia> "You are my Aces, my only Aces, you make me happy, when skies are grey, you'll never know just, how much we love you, so please don't take my Aces away!"
[14:25] <Starblaydia> "only sh*t teams need a nick-name!"
[14:27] <Krytenia> Lazerevski, has a farm, EIEIO! And on that farm he had some mules, EIEIO! With a miskick here and a miskick there, here a miss, there a miss, everywhere a miskick, Lazerevski had a farm, EIEIO!
[14:28] <Starblaydia> "If Kennedy plays for Krytenia, So Can I"
[14:28] <Krytenia> "Starblaydia don't like it! Rock the Crossbar! Rock the Crossbar!"
[14:29] <Starblaydia> Your mother is your sister, your father is your brother, you like to shag each other, The Krytie Family."
[14:31] <Krytenia> "You wanna play for Caprine, so you can shag the goats. You wanna play for Caprine, so you can sew your oats!"
[14:32] <Starblaydia> "Two shades of blue! Why play in two shades of blue?"
[14:32] <Krytenia> "Girls play in purple! There's only girls play in purple!"
[14:34] <Starblaydia> "Kevin Keda! He plays up Gabe's hole!"
[14:36] <Krytenia> "We had joy, we had fun, we had purples on the run, but the fun it didn't last, so we kicked 'em up the arse!"
[14:36] <Starblaydia> "Heeeeyyyy, Kry-tain-ya! I wanna kno-o-ow, why you've won f*ck all"
[14:37] <Krytenia> "Hey, Heeey Aces! You're gona kno-o-ow, when we win it all!"
[14:38] <Starblaydia> "DVS, sounds like a disease, DVS, on his goolies"
[14:40] <Krytenia> "Oh Cherry Cherry, she had it with the gaffer so she's in the team"
[14:41] <Starblaydia> "Even our girls, are better than you, even our girls, will put three past you"
[14:44] <Krytenia> "2, 4, 6, 8, who's that team we f**kin hate! Star-Blay-Di-Ah!"
[14:44] <Starblaydia> "Your Mer-ci-an's a rent boy!"
[14:44] * Starblaydia notes we've been doing chants for over an hour, and they'll go in the WCDT once we get bored*
[14:45] * Starblaydia also beats KP about his bloody ears for that loss
[14:46] <Krytenia> "You can't even beat the Tigers, fa la la la la, la la la la!"
[14:47] <Starblaydia> "You lost to the Bettians, and also to the go-ats!"
[14:47] <Krytenia> "Win five-nil! We only win five-nil"
[14:47] <Starblaydia> "You only beat EL CID, and he's f*cking dead!"
[14:48] <Krytenia> "We've got one more point than you, doo da, doo da, and we're top of our group too, oh de doo da day!"
[14:49] * KP is *almost* tempted to fix the WC finals draw so Krytenia play Starblaydia at some stage...
[14:49] <Starblaydia> "you play a group of f*cks, one of ours has won the cup"
[14:49] <Krytenia> "Draw with Dauna Hills? You're havin a laugh!"
[14:51] <Starblaydia> "We'll sing it again, you lost to the goats, did you pull, and get their coats?
[14:51] <Krytenia> "Oh, Philly Philly, they went to Starblaydia and they shut 'em out!"
[14:53] <Krytenia> "Is this the way to Kaza City? Not for Starblaydia cos they're sh*tty!"
[14:58] <Starblaydia> "Krytenia bribed the Druids, to score them to a win, their money gave 'em third place, might as well been in the bin!"
[14:59] <Krytenia> "There is, a ground, in Everton, the Davis Stadium, and it's been the ruin, of many a sh*t team, and god, I know, you're one"

LOL Kry!

If there isn't one, someone should compile a list of what the people from each country are called, what the adjective for that country is and so on.

Country: Qazox (pronounced: Kaz-oks)
Team Nickname: Pheonix (pronounced: Fee-on-iks)
Derogatory Team Nickname: Chokers
Name of peoples: Qazoxians (pronounced: Kaz-oks-e-ans)
Short name of peoples: Qazians (pronounced: Kaz-e-ans)
Adjective: Qazoxian (pronounced: Kaz-oks-e-an)
Short adjective: Qazian (pronounced: Kaz-e-an)

Country: Prux
Team Nickname: Prawns
Derogatory Team Nickname: Shrimp
Name of peoples: Pruxians
Short name of peoples: NONE
Adjective: Pruxian
Short adjective: NONE

Uh... Hi there. Can we, uh, like, not turn the WCDT into, like, the NSWiki? ;)

Uh... Hi there. Can we, uh, like, not turn the WCDT into, like, the NSWiki? ;)

That's it, time for a NSWIKI special page! :D

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Jeruselem_World_Cup_Team

Voila! WC25 vintage chantage!

That was a lot of fun, hehe. I use that on the wiki as proof that Starblaydi fans have cool chants :D

Aaah, I feel better now. That might have been the funniest day in IRC ever. That and it proved you're both a bit daft, but who's judging? :p

Aaah, I feel better now. That might have been the funniest day in IRC ever. That and it proved you're both a bit daft, but who's judging? :p

A 'bit' daft? Understatement of the entire thread so far, I think

Country: Bettia (pronounced: Betty-a)
Team Nickname: Aroras
Derogatory Team Nickname: None that we know of (although Vilitans would probably disagree)
Name of peoples: Bettians
Short name of peoples: None
Adjective: Bettian
Short adjective: None




Country: Northern Bettia
Team Nickname: Fire Ants
Derogatory Team Nickname: Gogs (derived from the Welsh word Gogleddwyr, meaning Northerners)
Name of peoples: Northern Bettians
Short name of peoples: N-Bets
Adjective: Northern Bettian
Short adjective: N-Bettian

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540373
Questions and comments welcome.

I figure you'd look at where it was coming from. After all, you're by no means as daft as I am.

I figure you'd look at where it was coming from. After all, you're by no means as daft as I am.

Yet another one - it's the World Cup Understatement Thread atm :D

This needs to be put on a wiki page.

Country: Bostopia (Pronouced Boss-toe-pe-yah or locally Boss-toep-ya)
Team Nickname: Fighting Geesemonkies
Derogatory Team Nickname: None I know of (in Oliverry, "Les Pffts", maybe :P)
Name of peoples: Bostopians
Short name of peoples: N/A
Adjective: Bostopian
Short adjective: N/A

Olympics, twice. :p

Starblaydia and Krytenia, that is quite awesome. :D

Others may want this: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_World_Cup_reference_guide

Although that's nice it doesn't give the nationality info. If I have time (which looks unlikely for now) I'll update it.

Can I request that if Schiavonia is removed, which I don't personally think they should be, that instead of Cafundeu or Bostopia the 3rd place team with the most points go through instead. It doesn't seem fair that they should be rewarded for Schiavonia's dropping. And no I'm not doing this as a request for me, cause I won't be the best third place team. If I win I'm in and if I don't win other teams will have more points than me. I just think it's fairer that way.

Can I request that if Schiavonia is removed, which I don't personally think they should be, that instead of Cafundeu or Bostopia the 3rd place team with the most points go through instead. It doesn't seem fair that they should be rewarded for Schiavonia's dropping. And no I'm not doing this as a request for me, cause I won't be the best third place team. If I win I'm in and if I don't win other teams will have more points than me. I just think it's fairer that way.

Not going to happen, as with precedent.

Group B
Elves Security Forces 0-1 Jeruselem
Qazox 0-0 Oickoidia

I can't complain but ... I know who will.

not me :)

Group B
Elves Security Forces 0-1 Jeruselem
Qazox 0-0 Oickoidia

I can't complain but ... I know who will.

HA-HA-HA

Figures.

Not going to happen, as with precedent.

Why should you stick with an unfair precident. I really think Vilita and TLC should have a one game playoff for that last spot. I also don't understand why ceasing is such a big deal.

HA-HA-HA

Figures.

Just change your name to Tynelia!

Just change your name to Tynelia!

HA-HA-HA

NO.

:mad:

It's not unfair to have to keep your nation alive. We all manage to do it fine.

Guess I'll have to host a World Cup w/ my puppet to ensure a Round of 16 berth huh? (lol)

So Am I the worst WORLD CUP team yet? and if not how much more torture do i have to put up with to become the worst? (if i can't be the best, might as well be the worst right??)

Guess I'll have to host a World Cup w/ my puppet to ensure a Round of 16 berth huh? (lol)

So Am I the worst WORLD CUP team yet? and if not how much more torture do i have to put up with to become the worst? (if i can't be the best, might as well be the worst right??)

I started in World Cup 11, managed to qualify in 17 - but made the 2nd round only in 26! No, you are doing a lot better than I did.
So failed from 11 to 25, that is 15 cups!

Don't ask how one waits 15 cups to make the 2nd round.
You will make the 2nd round one day. Once you do, your rank will enable to you to keep on doing it.

Cas,

I don't have a huge problem with Schia being removed in and of itself but I do think it's unfair that a team like Cafundeu rewards from it. And honestly Schiavonia isn't particularly different from a team like Oickoidia as far as this tournament goes.

Picking a particular team to go via nonrandom means could be considered matchfixing. :p And matchfixing is very, very bad.

I started in World Cup 11, managed to qualify in 17 - but made the 2nd round only in 26! No, you are doing a lot better than I did.
So failed from 11 to 25, that is 15 cups!

Don't ask how one waits 15 cups to make the 2nd round.
You will make the 2nd round one day. Once you do, your rank will enable to you to keep on doing it.

Well that makes me feel a bit better

(mumbles something about being the only team NOT to beat the worst WC qualifier ever...)

Why should you stick with an unfair precident. I really think Vilita and TLC should have a one game playoff for that last spot. I also don't understand why ceasing is such a big deal.

Just let it all go. Ceasing doesn't matter and isn't really IC in and of itself, it's just ICified by some people.

Arguably ceasing does matter because you can't post on the forums once it happens (it triggers an automatic forum ban until the nation is revived), which makes it kinda difficult to say anything IC. ;)

Arguably ceasing does matter because you can't post on the forums once it happens (it triggers an automatic forum ban until the nation is revived), which makes it kinda difficult to say anything IC. ;)

But, it doesn't mean the IC part of the nation didn't just go poof or isolationist.

Well, considering you only have to visit once every 4 weeks, it usually means either 1) you're absentminded, or 2) you quit, and if it's 1, usually you're going "sorry, I'm reviving my nation now" in a day or so.

Az: the reason Caf gets the spot is not because Schi dropped out. Cafundeu finished second in the group, due to Schi's 80-point penalty for failing to exist. They correctly won their place into the round of 16. Obviously, as this is something up to the hosts, you are free to act differently if you ever host another World Cup.

I think it's fair. If you can't be bothered to log in every 30 days - give the spot to someone who wants to win more than you do.

There is no reason not to let Schiavonia continue its run. What happens if he revives tomorrow?

I don't particularly agree with the hosts management (because there are always a random select few who never RP but they continue to persist because they are still an NS entity); but it is as the hosts have already said:

as this is something up to the hosts, you are free to act differently if you ever host another World Cup.

But personally, I think Schiavonia is going to have a much more difficult time managing a RL team than an NS one (if anyone read that article of the HCC's new team).

But personally, I think Schiavonia is going to have a much more difficult time managing a RL team than an NS one (if anyone read that article of the HCC's new team).

I think that would apply to most of us here ;)

BTW The Oxen Cup IV Signup/Roster thread is now open:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540523

Please vote on the poll for the type of tourney YOU want me to run!

There is no reason not to let Schiavonia continue its run. What happens if he revives tomorrow?

In case you're totally blind and have missed what's been said - he's had 28 (plus four, now) days to log in/get his nation revived. That's more than enough.

I don't particularly agree with the hosts management (because there are always a random select few who never RP but they continue to persist because they are still an NS entity)...

Which, mind you, is not necessarily anything we can do about it, as it's part of the battle regarding the level of randomness. Though you are right, that the more teams that participate, the better.

I actually didn't know that if you didn't exist on NS you couldn't post on the forums, but it still seems like an arbitrary rule to have. Why not have a rule that says you're not eligible for the tournament if you don't post a roster or something like that. Demanding participation in a game basically unrelated to this one seems strange. The only reason I ever log into the main NS is to keep my nation active and to check TGs so it's more of a hassle than anything.

Demanding participation in a game basically unrelated to this one seems strange.

In case you haven't noticed, the forum is called "NationStates", and it's that way for a reason. :rolleyes:

The only reason I ever log into the main NS is to keep my nation active

And Schia chose not to, either intentionally or not. And the point is that if one can't even bother to log on once every 28 days it's quite likely they've lost interest in the game.

In case you haven't noticed, the forum is called "NationStates", and it's that way for a reason.

I've noticed, but it's almost incidental. I'm sure I'm not alone in not caring about the NS part of it.

And the point is that if one can't even bother to log on once every 28 days it's quite likely they've lost interest in the game.

As opposed to all the interest shown by not RPing or posting a roster all tournament? The loss of interest will sort itself out when they don't sign up for the next cup. The bigger problem is the effect it has on the rest of the tournament. How is it fair that Cafundeu got to be in effectively a three team group? If you'd have set up qualification for 31 teams from the start it would've been an outrage.

How is it fair that Cafundeu got to be in effectively a three team group?
It’s exactly as fair as what’s happened every single time that a non-host nation has ceased to exist (except for East Spaam forfeiting its spot in World Cup 9 with the intention that Spaam would qualify in its place). Since Cafundéu had just as much a chance of being in this situation as any other third-place team, fairness is not an issue.

If you'd have set up qualification for 31 teams from the start it would've been an outrage.
In that the NSWC is supposed to follow the format of the RL FIFA World Cup, it would be problematic, but I can’t imagine a UEFA member association whining about how the fifty-three teams are split into nine groups of unequal size for their WC qualifiers.

For those with Under-21 sides, the 2nd Di Bradini Cup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540475) sign-ups are open, for a tournament to be ICly hosted as a pre-WC38/BoF tourney.

I really don't have a problem with a team being docked points because their nation has ceased - it's like a RL-team being docked points for going into financial administration, which has happened a number of times in the UK (the most notable victim being Leeds Utd).

In fact, it may be worth making this an official ruling, just to avoid any such arguments in future.

The difference Bettia is that it affects all teams evenly cause it's a league rather than being broke into small groups.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference whether the league consists of four teams or twenty-four teams.

However on reflection, this docking of points is usually applied after the season has finished (depending on when the team actually went into administration). If a team goes bankrupt in the middle of a season, the usual procedure is to expel them form the league and all results involving them would be expunged. If this was the case, the final group table would look like this:

Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Ariddia 2 2 0 0 8 4 4 6
2 Cafundeu 2 1 0 1 6 6 0 3
3 Bostopia 2 0 0 2 1 5 -4 0

It's not the number of teams Bettia. It's the number of groups. Anything more than 1 and kicking teams out becomes a sort of lottery.

Lottery or not, if it happens, it happens and it should have no bearing on who progresses from the group.

I don't know what the rules are for football, but the official rules for the Rugby World Cup states that 'Where a team is expelled from the Tournament, it shall forfeit all match points previously awarded, and its opponents in each match previously played shall be awarded four match points (which shall replace any match points previously awarded from the particular match). All points scored for and against in these matches shall be discounted in the official Pool rankings and team records used for Tournament purposes.'

Personally I prefer expunging the records completely, but if the WCC were to adopt this measure, we would replace the four points with three points awarded to all teams in the group (this still wouldn't affect Cafundéu advancing). If a team were to go belly-up in the knockout stages, their opponents should be given a bye to the next round. Of course, if that should happen in the final then that's an entirely different matter - should the other team be awarded the cup by default? Mind you, the chances of that happening would be pretty remote - a team would have to RP to stand a chance of reaching the final.

Just change your name to Tynelia!

Hey thanks to a strong Non-RP bonus i finally made the knockouts- first of the class of WC27, which is only fair since Qazox was the first to actually qualify.

now karma must continue, first the gnomes and next Errinundera- go-go lower ranked team!

of course i did post something so i'm probably doomed.

With the possible exception of WC22 - that was a while ago so I don't quite remember, but does anyone else remember 2nd-place finisher Oaker posting anything for that one?

To be fair, there was a very low RP bonus for that cup. Probably also the reason why it was the least-RP'd cup in a while.

Mind you, the chances of that happening would be pretty remote - a team would have to RP to stand a chance of reaching the final.

With the possible exception of WC22 - that was a while ago so I don't quite remember, but does anyone else remember 2nd-place finisher Oaker posting anything for that one?

Why is it ok to advance by default in the knockout rounds or group stage but not in the final. I agree it's a case likely never to happen but I think that if you think it's ok to allow teams to advance by default they ought to be able to win the cup by default as well.

Here's a nifty idea, why don't we decide who gets to the final using a program or a spreadsheet that takes two sets of numbers, but gives you the ability to add a bonus for something or other, and then from the inputted numbers you get some numbers back and the team with the highest outputted number wins!

Oh, wait. Also, I don't care if Caf went through because Schia went out, it could easily have been me in Caf's shoes had I beat him. Jeez, it's a freaking game, all about luck. LUCK. Like Caf and myself were LUCKY that a team in our group who would have advanced ceased to exist and one of us had the chance to go through in their place. The issue is over now, and frankly, it's time to let go.

Yeah, just advance whoever by right. It can be argued that it's the top 2 existing teams that go through.

Although a mini-tournament of all the 3rd place teams would be interesting... ;)

I really don't have a problem with a team being docked points because their nation has ceased - it's like a RL-team being docked points for going into financial administration, which has happened a number of times in the UK (the most notable victim being Leeds Utd).

In fact, it may be worth making this an official ruling, just to avoid any such arguments in future.

* Cough * Leeds * Cough * United

Leeds might survive this year! Doing well despite the points docking.

* Cough * Leeds * Cough * United

Leeds might survive this year! Doing well despite the points docking.

Leeds are going to win League One by a country mile if they keep up their form: 10 games, 9 wins, 1 draw. Without the penalty points they'd be top by 9 points or so.

Leeds are going to win League One by a country mile if they keep up their form: 10 games, 9 wins, 1 draw. Without the penalty points they'd be top by 9 points or so.

I guess they had motivation to win those games, as they had to win five extra games from the start.

If a nation dissolved in real life, its team would still finish out the tournament. I enter Serbia and Montenegro in the 2006 World Cup as an example. The team had no country behind it anymore, but still played as the old country.

In SCG's case there was a new entity and they could have played as Serbia had they so chosen. No such case here.

I think in Serbia and Montenegro's case, the countries had split but they were still physically there.

In Schia's case, it's like Fiji going under water from global warming.

Exactly. The Schiavonii have more to worry about than soccer - like finding a home, unless Ad'ihan wants to keep them :p

Also, I have to say, this is reaching dead horse levels, which I have to say Az, you're beating more of them than a glue factory. Give it a rest already, and have fun!

UCS SLANI [2 - 3] Cafundeu

Well, that will stir the pot more! Now, what if Caf was Scia?

(Grumbles about Jeruselem's loss)

Ariddia 1-4 Demot
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Is that not random enough for you? :|

I noticed most "Frenchie" teams - Oliverry, Jeruselem and Ariddia lost. Sel Appa survived.

(Time warp ...)

Ariddia 1-4 Demot
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Is that not random enough for you? :|

I noticed most "Frenchie" teams - Oliverry, Jeruselem and Ariddia lost. Sel Appa survived.


Sel Appa don't count. They didn't surrender, so they are not a real French nation :p

LE,

I'm pretty certain the matchups for the next round are off. I think I should be playing Bettia. I'm pretty certain the schedules weren't set up to have two teams from the same group meet in the quarterfinals like Bettia and Sel Appa are at this point.

LE,

I'm pretty certain the matchups for the next round are off. I think I should be playing Bettia. I'm pretty certain the schedules weren't set up to have two teams from the same group meet in the quarterfinals like Bettia and Sel Appa are at this point.

You're right, human error. Fixed.

The error is noted, and will be fixed by Ad'ihan shortly, with our apologies.

Yeah, just advance whoever by right. It can be argued that it's the top 2 existing teams that go through.

Although a mini-tournament of all the 3rd place teams would be interesting... ;)

I DEMAND THAT THIS HAPPEN!!!

LOL J/K all

now i wish ESF or Jeru died durring the cup....

THE ELITE EIGHT ARE:


Elves Security Forces v. Demot
Zwangzug v. Cafundeu
Sel Appa v. Errinundera
Bettia v. Az-cz

I bet that no-one had that in the office pool...lol

THE ELITE EIGHT ARE:


Elves Security Forces v. Demot
Zwangzug v. Cafundeu
Sel Appa v. Errinundera
Bettia v. Az-cz

I bet that no-one had that in the office pool...lol

Poor elves, he has to knock one of his own teams out.

Poor elves, he has to knock one of his own teams out.

(should be ESF....lol)

(should be ESF....lol)

I know but ... that's what I call them.

If there was ever a Cup for me to win...

Your problem is ... which team to give the RP bonus to.

If there was ever a Cup for me to win...

Valanora(ESF) naturally, as they are my main nation.

btw, is it just me, or has Jolt been time warping alot the last two weeks?

Yes, my Tardis is working really well! :D

(Like now!)

Your problem is ... which team to give the RP bonus to.

Valanora(ESF) naturally, as they are my main nation.

btw, is it just me, or has Jolt been time warping alot the last two weeks?

Sometimes I think Jolt is worse than the old boards...

Yes, my Tardis is working really well! :D

(Like now!)

Pfft... Any REAL Dr Who fan would know that it's the TARDIS not just Tardis

Time
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It's an acroynm not a proper noun.

Pfft... Any REAL Dr Who fan would know that it's the TARDIS not just Tardis

Time
And
Relative
Dimensions
In
Space

It's an acroynm not a proper noun.

I'm just lazy ... with a dislike of CAPS LOCK key.

I would like to point out that I did predict the Demot win over Ariddia.

Pfft... Any REAL Dr Who fan would know that it's the TARDIS not just Tardis

Time
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Dimensions
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It's an acroynm not a proper noun.
Many people do put acronyms in titlecase rather than [small] capitals (for acronyms that are pronounced like words, e.g., Fifa or Conmebol, but not initialisms, e.g., USA or NCAA).

experiment results-

RP posts-4
record for match following post 1-0-3
record vs. higher ranked teams following post 0-0-2 (losses to TLC and Erri)

all other match days no post-14
# of losses following non RPing day-1 (Bostopia)
record vs. higher ranked teams while not posting 1-2-0 (beat Az-cz, draws vs. Vilita)

yes i know there is some carryover effect of the RP post but max benefit would take place on the match after. and first post wasn't til MD6 where i promptly lost to Uzalixid (sp.) the next day to close out the half.

conclusion- strong non-RP bonus in effect...though making it out of the group stage this time did sort of mess up my planned RP for the next cup... :(

experiment results-...

...yes i know there is some carryover effect of the RP post but max benefit would take place on the match after...

The full RP bonus will be revealed after the cup, at which point I'll comment on your conclusions. Allow me to insist that the RP bonus is considerably fair, when compared to rank; I will be able to back this up after the tournament is over.

Also, due to an unexpected trip out of town this weekend, Ad'ihan will be scorinating the quarterfinal matches. As mentioned earlier during the schedule discussion, I will likely be scorinating every match after the quarterfinals. Since both of us were bounced early on, there should be no bias issues.

oh don;t worry about it on my part Nova, i just like the irony of it all. Every cup but this one i had at least a 75% posting rate and never seemed to make much progress leading to the idea of the "RP penalty" theory.

this cup i was too busy to do much anyway so figured i'd test out the "non-RP bonus" and see what it got me. unfortunately things settled down enough that i had to give in to the tempation and post a few times. I find the fact i generally lost those matches and won the all but one of the others, while getting to the knockouts for the first time ever quite hilarious tbh. :)

Knocked out in the second round, after having reached the final in three World Cups in a row... I feel rather like the New Zealanders now. ;)

I think in Serbia and Montenegro's case, the countries had split but they were still physically there.

In Schia's case, it's like Fiji going under water from global warming.

No, it's like they lost communication with the world at worst. NS official info is not automatically IC. Look at Gupta, his nation played by that is Yafor 2.

Poor elves, he has to knock one of his own teams out.

This brings up a potential future problem. What happens if puppet and master both make the finals?

Milchama 0 - 1 Sel Appa
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This brings up a potential future problem. What happens if puppet and master both make the finals?
Then they each send eleven players to run around on a pitch and kick a ball for two forty-five–minute halves, plus, if necessary to determine a winner, an additional pair of fifteen-minute halves and kicks from the penalty mark. Why, what would you suggest? :p

May I be the first to commend Ariddia on a wonderful RP, and also to note that I had an RP for Demot that I was unable to post, but gave the hosts, that they forgot to post :p

Pfft... Any REAL Dr Who fan would know that it's the TARDIS not just Tardis

Time
And
Relative
Dimensions
In
Space

It's an acroynm not a proper noun.

WHO Cares.

WHO Cares.

It's highly ironic that you're complaining about something not related to the WC being posted in the WCDT.

It's highly ironic that you're complaining about something not related to the WC being posted in the WCDT.

I wasn't complaining.

Dr. WHO Cares about the TARDIS... a lousy joke i tells ya.

I wasn't complaining.

Dr. WHO Cares about the TARDIS... a lousy joke i tells ya.

You have yet to "Master" the subtleness of humour.

World Cup Quarterfinals are tomorrow. CoH is still in shambles. Anyone willing to help Bos and Qutar pick it up?

Where is Bos and Qutar?

A note for Bettia (and anyone else RPing about my team):

El-Iot has replaced Ho-Lee Chung in the starting lineup.

World Cup Quarterfinals are tomorrow. CoH is still in shambles. Anyone willing to help Bos and Qutar pick it up?

If worst comes to worst, I volunteer to take up the slack. That said, I'm hoping that people have enough confidence in the present hosts to come back to us in time to make the CoH work out.

Cup of Harmony Announcement:

Due to "Islands of Qutar" going AWOL Spaam will take over his role as co-host of the 29th CoH

*stunned with silence/screaming about Quarterfinal win*

Well, it's nice to see we're all making good amounts of sense.

Well, it's nice to see we're all making good amounts of sense.

Nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak.

Cup of Harmony Announcement:

Due to "Islands of Qutar" going AWOL Spaam will take over his role as co-host of the 29th CoH

It's funny we've had recent dramas with the CoH with hosts going missing.

Well, while we're making perfect sense, could a brotha spare a dime?

I was travelling during the last week to Porto Seguro-BA (marvelous place), and didn't touch in a computer during this time.

I return, and I'm surprised to discover that I reached the quarterfinals... :eek:

(because of that, I'll keep my coach to WC38, something that isn't common in Cafundéu)

Nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak.
Wingardium Leviosa!

Wingardium Leviosa!

The New World Cup Discussion Thread. Now owned by J K Rowling.

Shame the CoH hasn't gone as well as it could have done this time round, but glad it's still chugging along neatly to a conclusion with a sub host.

When does WC38 host bidding start?

Shame the CoH hasn't gone as well as it could have done this time round, but glad it's still chugging along neatly to a conclusion with a sub host.

When does WC38 host bidding start?
Actually, Qutar is back, so I shall no longer be subbing.

Is Qutar feeling well enough to do it?

Just a reminder to those who have been eliminated from the World Cup:

the 4th Edition of the Oxen Cup (link here:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13138515#post13138515)
is ready for you to make an appearance!

Sign-up today!

Is Qutar feeling well enough to do it?

Well... he's been "locked inside by his parents" and he certainly indicated that he wanted to...

However there is another element... to this... Bostopia has apparently done something stupid (he's not sick or anything) and won't be able to host.

As such ... I'm declaring now Bazalonia - Qutar Hosting of the CoH...

Groups will be posted ASAP and the day after that the first MD will take place (using Qutars scorinator)

Miceland will be Scorinated by Qutar just Qutar will be scorinated by me! And yes this is Bazalonia using the account of one of his puppets.

I'm hopeful that Novapsolu will be able to scorinate the semi-finals today. Otherwise, if my computer doesn't act up today as it did yesterday, I'll do them, latest by tonight (1400 UTC).

I'm hopeful that Novapsolu will be able to scorinate the semi-finals today. Otherwise, if my computer doesn't act up today as it did yesterday, I'll do them, latest by tonight (1400 UTC).

Ah.

My apologies for my extended absence, as I just got back about 90 minutes ago. Anyways, I had attempted to TG Ad'ihan something to post on Monday night (I couldn't access the forums with the computer I was using), however, since that did not go through, here's the Reader's Digest version:

-The Third Place Playoff, to be hosted at Protectorate Stadium in Ad'ihan, will be scorinated TONIGHT at appx. 11:00 PM EDT (i.e. the usual scorination time)

-The World Cup Championship, taking place at the 100,000-seat Gan Monah, on the Isle Gan in Novapsolu, will be scorinated appx. 24 hours after the 3PPO (this Thursday @ 11:00 PM EDT). Both scores will be run by yours truly, with my thanks to Ad'ihan for stepping in for the Quarter and Semifinals.

-With the Baptism of Fire bidding still open, Novapsolu will offer a bid, with the potential to add a co-host. Full details will be posted later today, though the format will be a two-division Swiss-style (or Power Pairings, as you may also know the method) opening round, followed by a knockout round consisting of the top 2-4 from each division (or region, if a co-host is found). In the tradition of the BoF hostings of the past, pairing a veteran host with a less-experienced newcomer, I am seeking a co-host who has never hosted a World Cup proper; previous CoH and BoF hosting experience is accepted, though none is necessary. If anyone is interested, please contact me via TG or IRC.

Is anything happening with the CoH??

Sel Appa 1-2 Az-cz
:upyours: (at Margaret)
Well, there's still third place...

Another BoF bid? :eek:

At this point, it would make an interesting RP scenario to NOT have the CoH.

At this point, it would make an interesting RP scenario to NOT have the CoH.

Interesting?

Interesting?

It'll screw over everyone's KPB rank, but some kind of RP thing must come out of it.

Why doesn't someone with some sort of power/responsibility for this thing (Baz, Bos, Qutar, Spaam, whoever) just post some bloody Groups from the accepted sign-ups list? It's not that hard, surely?

So, as previously promised, while awaiting responses from the fellow bidders, if they're still interested, Novapsolu presents:

The Novapsolan Bid for the pre-World Cup 38
Baptism of Fire!

Proposed Format: The Baptism of Fire will be run in a two-division/region (if a co-host is found) Swiss-style (aka. Power Pairing) System. Teams will be randomly drawn into their first match day fixtures, with every following match day paired by a team's record, matching the top teams in a region against teams with the same number of points, with the only caveat being that no team can play each other twice in the first round. Pairings will be redone every matchday, until 4 matchdays are completed.

At the end of the first round, the top two in each region, including all ties, will advance to the knockout rounds. If there is a tie for second, teams will face off in a non-KPB counting Repechage round , until there are two teams left per region. Play will then precede with the Regional Finals, followed by the 3PPO and the Baptism of Fire Championship, to take place at the site of the World Cup 37 Championship, Gan Monah.

Scorinator Used: NSFootySim, v.2.0.1 (or a newer version, should one come out in the next week or so). The "maxpoints" function, as well as the RP bonus, which will give teams a significant boost for RPing at least once, with greater bonuses for additional RPs of some quality. For the BoF, RPing should be the only factor affecting the random numbers.

Feel free to ask me any other questions you have, including any interested co-hosts. I look forward to seeing the opposing bids, and look forward to the EWCC vote on the bids in the very near future.

:upyours: (at Margaret)
Well, there's still third place...

Another BoF bid? :eek:

At this point, it would make an interesting RP scenario to NOT have the CoH.

Maggie 3:16

My BoF bid will follow the same standard format as my first time and I plan to use Qutar's scorinator if I can acquire it. Otherwise, I will be using NSFS 201.

The Final seems awfully familiar...

Demot vs Az-cz

I think Demot will win this one.

Hey it's Elvish puppet vs Gnomes!
Like the hosting bid ...

If I win this Cup, I will never trust NSFS again...

Miceland Official Bid:

Scorinator: NSFS v2.01
Method: Ranks
RP: As per BoF RP Spreadsheet as originally provided by Legal for Bazalonia's first BoF host around 10 WC's ago.

Format:

Group Stage: 3 groups of 6
Top 16 teams from the 18 will advance, this the top 16 teams will be determined by 6 lots of 3 team round robins. Each team in the round robins will be from a differnet group but has finished in the same ranking in the group ie all teams 3rd in the rankings within their group will play each other. The only teams who may not move forward will be in the 6th position, only one team, who is the best in the round-robin will advance.

The teams will be ordered according to their finish in the round robin (ie.A team that finished first in the 3rd slot round robin will be the 7th team while the team that finished last in the top slot round robin will be team number 3)

The rest of the knockouts will be organised so that Team 1 and Team 2 can only meet in the finals.

Otherstuff.

As Miceland, I have incredible fleixibility in what can happen, a bit like The Arch/AIF Dreamed Realm, however I won't spoil my plan, it should encrage RP's and do what the original roll of the BoF, help foster RPing and growth in the RP realm.

Maggie 3:16

That might be the newest Chapter and verse in the Holy Book of Hoofaran. (fitting nicely between the verse on how to tip a lady of the night and the verse on how to tip her pimp...lol)

OXEN CUP 4 is now under way: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13144612#post13144612

GL TO ALL!

New Votes!

Baptism of Fire hosts (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13144622&postcount=58) (for EWCC only)

World Cup 38 Host Vote (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13144625&postcount=59) (for all WCC)

New Votes!

Baptism of Fire hosts (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13144622&postcount=58) (for EWCC only)

World Cup 38 Host Vote (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13144625&postcount=59) (for all WCC)

How about putting links to the bid threads too in those posts? :p

As Q-Topia is the only current bid the vote will have the three following options

a. Sel Appa
b. Novapsolu
c. Miceland
Perhaps Baz is doing a bit too much copy-and-pasting :p

Please note some changes I have made to both the Presidential statements (including links to relevant info)


And as well as to the Miceland BoF bid in relation to the round robin.

Zwangzug [0 - 1] Sel Appa

THIRD PLACE!!! WOO! WOO! WOO! WOO!

THIRD PLACE!!! WOO! WOO! WOO! WOO![/SIZE]

Calm down dear, it's only a commercial!

THIRD PLACE!!! WOO! WOO! WOO! WOO!

Yoo yah yabah! :p

Looks like a team of Gnomes will be taking a cup as a big as them home!

That might be the newest Chapter and verse in the Holy Book of Hoofaran.

Nah... that's in the Bostopian edition of the Bible

guess there is always next tournament...

No insult intended for Jeruselem, but every time I read your RPs, I always feel someone has been watching too many soap operas.

No insult intended for Jeruselem, but every time I read your RPs, I always feel someone has been watching too many soap operas.

:D

When I was younger, I did watch a lot of them. My grandmother and mother love soap operas! The Jeruselem world cup campaign is just one long soap opera. I actually don't like them. So why are mine so weird? Watch the Chinese and Asian ones. I guess no one runs a World Cup soap opera better than I.

:D

When I was younger, I did watch a lot of them. My grandmother and mother love soap operas! The Jeruselem world cup campaign is just one long soap opera. I actually don't like them. So why are mine so weird? Watch the Chinese and Asian ones. I guess no one runs a World Cup soap opera better than I.

That said, in the grand tradition of soap operas, you should try making a movie out of it.

I can't believe I'm saying this:

AZ-CZ WORLD CHAMPS!?!?

WTG.

I'm working on the NSwiki for WC 37...

IS there a list of locales for the Knock-out rounds anywhere or no?

TY

Still need help finishing the Qualifying Stages if anyone is up to it.

I'm working on the NSwiki for WC 37...

IS there a list of locales for the Knock-out rounds anywhere or no?

TY

Still need help finishing the Qualifying Stages if anyone is up to it.

Look on the scores page for WC37, most are there.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538148&page=3

this is one of the few times I'll post some non-WC related in here, but for anyone interested, I created an NS league on:

http://www.xperteleven.com/default.aspx

It's a footy management game that relies heavily on tactics. If you feel like joining up, as we only need at least one more team to make a league, our league id is: 126736 .

Mind if I join it?

It's for anyone interested :p

:D

When I was younger, I did watch a lot of them. My grandmother and mother love soap operas! The Jeruselem world cup campaign is just one long soap opera. I actually don't like them. So why are mine so weird? Watch the Chinese and Asian ones. I guess no one runs a World Cup soap opera better than me.

Fixed.

Congrats Az.

Mind if I join it?

Sign up in the link below.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538995

:D

When I was younger, I did watch a lot of them. My grandmother and mother love soap operas! The Jeruselem world cup campaign is just one long soap opera. I actually don't like them. So why are mine so weird? Watch the Chinese and Asian ones. I guess no one runs a World Cup soap opera better than I do.
Fixed.

Congrats Az.

double fixed.

:)

And ESF, what is the maximum number of teams required for your league set-up?

Look on the scores page for WC37, most are there.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538148&page=3

There's no locales there Jeruselem, all it was saying was the country, not a stadium or city. TY though.

double fixed.

:)

And ESF, what is the maximum number of teams required for your league set-up?

I'll take that...

Han: the min is six and now I'm just waiting till tommorow night at 6pm my time or whenever we have an even number of teams.

I never claimed to have the bestest spelling or grammar! :p
Good thing I'm a programmer and not writer IRL.

Han: the min is six and now I'm just waiting till tommorow night at 6pm my time or whenever we have an even number of teams.

I vehemently protest the absence of a "Korean" nationality, whereas numerous other nationalities are presented that have made little or no impact in international football! Heck, you have Kurds, but not Koreans!

I'd wager the issue is better taken up with the website? :p

I vehemently protest the absence of a "Korean" nationality, whereas numerous other nationalities are presented that have made little or no impact in international football! Heck, you have Kurds, but not Koreans!

I don't understand. You act as if Korea has hosted a world cup or made it to the semifinals or something like that. :p

I can protest here - I'm not sure if that's going to make much a difference though.

I'm just peeved that they had enough nerve to put in Kurds without Koreans. Bosniacs too (and they spelled it wrong)!.

You can protest here, but it's going to make no difference whatsoever and I might have to mock you slightly for it.

Alright, I've started the League and Cup, anyone wishing to join will have to wait until next season.

Does Anyone have the latest KPB rankings for the following teams?:

Minilla Island
The Holy Empire
Kiryu-shi
Milchama
Ad'ihan
Quakmybush
Jeruselem
Sel Appa
Northern Bettia
Qazox
Lovisa

Thanks in advance for your help. (i just need the Ranking and the KPB #)

Expanding on the last statement, does anyone have the KPB ranks for all teams to post WC37?

Does Anyone have the latest KPB rankings for the following teams?:

Minilla Island
The Holy Empire
Kiryu-shi
Milchama
Ad'ihan
Quakmybush
Jeruselem
Sel Appa
Northern Bettia
Qazox
Lovisa

Thanks in advance for your help. (i just need the Ranking and the KPB #)

Expanding on the last statement, does anyone have the KPB ranks for all teams to post WC37?

The Answer to those questions...

Post WC Qualifying ranks are available on the NSWiki page Here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/KPB_ranking_system)

However as the CoH is still under way post WC37/Pre-BoF 38 Rankings are not currently available.

The Answer to those questions...

Post WC Qualifying ranks are available on the NSWiki page Here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/KPB_ranking_system)

However as the CoH is still under way post WC37/Pre-BoF 38 Rankings are not currently available.

Damn, I wasted like 2 minutes only to realize it was post Quals.

The Answer to those questions...

Post WC Qualifying ranks are available on the NSWiki page Here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/KPB_ranking_system)

However as the CoH is still under way post WC37/Pre-BoF 38 Rankings are not currently available.

Thanks, But I can't open those type of files, (for some reason my comp can't read them) so could someone just write them out for me for those teams i mentioned above? THANKS!

1 Ariddia 59.86
2 Capitalizt SLANI 50.66
3 Elves Security Forces 47.21
4 Errinundera 46.77
5 Bettia 45.74
6 Schiavonia 43.86
7 Az-cz 41.03
8 Zwangzug 37.47
9 Vilita 35.41
10 Milchama 33.91
11 Demot 31.67
12 Jeruselem 31.50
13 Cafundéu 31.04
14 Bazalonia 30.14
15 Wentland 30.09
16 The Holy Empire 29.79
17 Squornshelous 29.47
18 The Lowland Clans 28.71
19 Oliverry 28.21
20 Sel Appa 27.21
21 Turori 25.21
22 The Archregimancy 25.10
23 Tynelia 24.99
24 Qazox 24.60
25 Bostopia 23.08
26 Quakmybush 21.34
27 The HURD 20.60
28 Rejistania 20.10
29 Fmjphoenix 19.34
30 Yafor 2 19.06
31 Northern Bettia 18.29
32 Jasiyun 17.82
33 Kiryu-shi 16.65
34 Geisenfried 16.59
35 Estresse Intenso 15.96
36 Novapsolu 14.82
37 Assegai Developments 14.77
38 Sativaville 14.01
39 Dance 2 Revolution 12.68
40 Candelaria and Marquez 12.44
41 St. Samuel 11.80
42 Endmile 10.84
43 Lovisa 10.67
44 Daehanjeiguk 10.64
45 Swilatia 10.54
46 Kura-Pelland 10.51
47 Ad'ihan 10.45
48 Grotewohl 10.39
49 Cookesland 9.54
50 Bushes Been Quaked 9.46
51 Atheistic Right 9.42
52 Jariss 9.38
53 Vephrall 8.80
54 Ulzaxid 8.78
55 Kristovenia 8.72
56 British Londinium 8.71
57 Kansiov 8.64
58 Green wombat 8.29
59 Turruth Gordur 8.18
60 Sorthern Northland 8.09
61 Acapais 8.07
62 Taeshan 7.43
63 Uiri 7.29
64 The Islands of Qutar 7.07
65 Vuam and Isma 7.00
66 The Non-RPing Noob 6.97
67 Rugiero 6.89
68 Patusan 6.83
69 Billopesha 6.71
70 Jeru FC 6.66
71 Casari 6.57
72 Recluse Island 6.29
72 New Brittonia 6.29
72 Tremarendakia 6.29
75 Oickoidia 6.00
76 Aurendia 5.71
77 Spruitland 5.50
78 Delesa 5.47
79 Miamoria 5.29
80 Prux 4.86
81 Kampfers 4.73
82 Vikingholm 4.71
83 Minilla Island 4.43
84 Barbeques 4.14
84 The Coshairs 4.14
86 The Indonesian States 4.00
86 Konora 4.00
86 Miroxia 4.00
86 The Crescent Republic 4.00
90 Rastafariburg 3.86
91 Audioslavia 3.71
92 Limbrogidlia 3.57
93 Solenial 3.43
94 Integrite 3.29
95 Boyancy 3.14
95 Vanek Drury Brieres 3.14
97 Abu Omar 3.00
98 Zyla 2.86
98 Kelssek 2.86
100 Western Afghanistan 2.61
101 Naleloospalakintula 2.57
101 Bercktesgaden 2.57
103 Bellzantium 2.54
104 Keyne Island 2.26
105 TT Lake Side 2.11
106 The Sons of a Monkey 2.04
107 Nedalia 2.00
108 Trumanistan 1.88
109 Planting 1.73
110 Nebuleux 1.71
110 Wehrmacher 1.71
110 New Montreal States 1.71
113 Niosis 1.64
114 Ropa-Topia 1.60
115 Thelema Abbey 1.59
116 Central Prestonia 1.57
117 Herchimer 1.51
118 Cebumopolis 1.49
119 Collonie 1.43
120 Fort Europe 1.40
121 Tylero 1.39
122 Fargess 1.35
123 Nitrodymium 1.31
124 Northern Caesarea 1.14
125 United Island Empires 1.10
125 Suze-la-Rousse 1.10
127 Shmibabway 1.06
128 Veitau 1.00
129 Unkown Suburbia 0.90
130 ARealAdvance 0.86
131 Starblaydia 0.86
131 Miceland 0.86
133 Daughrty 0.80
134 Salkehachie 0.77
135 Cataduanes 0.70
135 Tolvarus 0.70
137 Kuosio 0.60
138 Ambrose-Douglas 0.57
138 Kilmarnockshire 0.57
138 The Canelandic Islands 0.57
141 Clesmire 0.50
142 Homieville 0.43
142 The Comrade Emirates 0.43
144 Cravan 0.40
145 Rossglass 0.30
145 Jaredcohenia 0.30
147 Shackfold 0.29
148 Kedalfax 0.29
149 Willink 0.20
150 Kirmarnockshire 0.15
151 Niorthemme 0.14

Thanks, But I can't open those type of files, (for some reason my comp can't read them) so could someone just write them out for me for those teams i mentioned above? THANKS!

What?!

You can't get OpenOffice?

It's free to Download!

What?!

You can't get OpenOffice?

It's free to Download!

It's not working for some reason.

I've uninstalled it 3 or 4 times and re-installed it 3 or 4 times, and I still can't get it to work.


on a different note:

GO SOX!
CRUSH THE ROCKS!

...

TY Sel Appa. wtg on 3rd BTW

GO SOX!
CRUSH THE ROCKS!

No the Sox need to lose to keep Bostonians in check.

No the Sox need to lose to keep Bostonians in check.

WRONG

The Sox need to win to ensure the further demise of the NY Yankees.

and to let the REDSOX NATION rub it in their face for 86 years. :p:p:p

meh... just a bunch of baseball fans streaking the WC discussion thread... (cautiously ponders how he can hijack the thread again)

And Sel wins my award for the most random-nice-thing-done category, for posting the entire list of KPB ranks, despite no one having specifically asked for it.

(1) Qaz asks for a small list;
(2) I ask for a bigger list;
(3) Baz gives link to big list;
(4) Qaz asks for posting of small list;

...

(...0000000000000...) Sel posts big list.

Thanks for skipping steps (5) through (...9999999999999...)!

1 Ariddia 59.86
2 Capitalizt SLANI 50.66
3 Elves Security Forces 47.21
4 Errinundera 46.77
5 Bettia 45.74
6 Schiavonia 43.86
7 Az-cz 41.03
8 Zwangzug 37.47
9 Vilita 35.41
10 Milchama 33.91
11 Demot 31.67
12 Jeruselem 31.50
13 Cafundéu 31.04
14 Bazalonia 30.14
15 Wentland 30.09
16 The Holy Empire 29.79
17 Squornshelous 29.47
18 The Lowland Clans 28.71
19 Oliverry 28.21
20 Sel Appa 27.21
21 Turori 25.21
22 The Archregimancy 25.10
23 Tynelia 24.99
24 Qazox 24.60
25 Bostopia 23.08
26 Quakmybush 21.34
27 The HURD 20.60
28 Rejistania 20.10
29 Fmjphoenix 19.34
30 Yafor 2 19.06
31 Northern Bettia 18.29
32 Jasiyun 17.82
33 Kiryu-shi 16.65
34 Geisenfried 16.59
35 Estresse Intenso 15.96
36 Novapsolu 14.82
37 Assegai Developments 14.77
38 Sativaville 14.01
39 Dance 2 Revolution 12.68
40 Candelaria and Marquez 12.44
41 St. Samuel 11.80
42 Endmile 10.84
43 Lovisa 10.67
44 Daehanjeiguk 10.64
45 Swilatia 10.54
46 Kura-Pelland 10.51
47 Ad'ihan 10.45
48 Grotewohl 10.39
49 Cookesland 9.54
50 Bushes Been Quaked 9.46
51 Atheistic Right 9.42
52 Jariss 9.38
53 Vephrall 8.80
54 Ulzaxid 8.78
55 Kristovenia 8.72
56 British Londinium 8.71
57 Kansiov 8.64
58 Green wombat 8.29
59 Turruth Gordur 8.18
60 Sorthern Northland 8.09
61 Acapais 8.07
62 Taeshan 7.43
63 Uiri 7.29
64 The Islands of Qutar 7.07
65 Vuam and Isma 7.00
66 The Non-RPing Noob 6.97
67 Rugiero 6.89
68 Patusan 6.83
69 Billopesha 6.71
70 Jeru FC 6.66
71 Casari 6.57
72 Recluse Island 6.29
72 New Brittonia 6.29
72 Tremarendakia 6.29
75 Oickoidia 6.00
76 Aurendia 5.71
77 Spruitland 5.50
78 Delesa 5.47
79 Miamoria 5.29
80 Prux 4.86
81 Kampfers 4.73
82 Vikingholm 4.71
83 Minilla Island 4.43
84 Barbeques 4.14
84 The Coshairs 4.14
86 The Indonesian States 4.00
86 Konora 4.00
86 Miroxia 4.00
86 The Crescent Republic 4.00
90 Rastafariburg 3.86
91 Audioslavia 3.71
92 Limbrogidlia 3.57
93 Solenial 3.43
94 Integrite 3.29
95 Boyancy 3.14
95 Vanek Drury Brieres 3.14
97 Abu Omar 3.00
98 Zyla 2.86
98 Kelssek 2.86
100 Western Afghanistan 2.61
101 Naleloospalakintula 2.57
101 Bercktesgaden 2.57
103 Bellzantium 2.54
104 Keyne Island 2.26
105 TT Lake Side 2.11
106 The Sons of a Monkey 2.04
107 Nedalia 2.00
108 Trumanistan 1.88
109 Planting 1.73
110 Nebuleux 1.71
110 Wehrmacher 1.71
110 New Montreal States 1.71
113 Niosis 1.64
114 Ropa-Topia 1.60
115 Thelema Abbey 1.59
116 Central Prestonia 1.57
117 Herchimer 1.51
118 Cebumopolis 1.49
119 Collonie 1.43
120 Fort Europe 1.40
121 Tylero 1.39
122 Fargess 1.35
123 Nitrodymium 1.31
124 Northern Caesarea 1.14
125 United Island Empires 1.10
125 Suze-la-Rousse 1.10
127 Shmibabway 1.06
128 Veitau 1.00
129 Unkown Suburbia 0.90
130 ARealAdvance 0.86
131 Starblaydia 0.86
131 Miceland 0.86
133 Daughrty 0.80
134 Salkehachie 0.77
135 Cataduanes 0.70
135 Tolvarus 0.70
137 Kuosio 0.60
138 Ambrose-Douglas 0.57
138 Kilmarnockshire 0.57
138 The Canelandic Islands 0.57
141 Clesmire 0.50
142 Homieville 0.43
142 The Comrade Emirates 0.43
144 Cravan 0.40
145 Rossglass 0.30
145 Jaredcohenia 0.30
147 Shackfold 0.29
148 Kedalfax 0.29
149 Willink 0.20
150 Kirmarnockshire 0.15
151 Niorthemme 0.14

Um, there seems to be some issue with that as Starblaydia should not have a KPB at all...

I've looked at the KPB file and noticed that yes, that's what it says and that all the headings seem weird. and disjointed.

I've asked Qutar to go through it.

131 Starblaydia 0.86

Eh? I should (as Baz has pointed out while I've been writing this) be off the list post-WC37, as I've not competed since WC34.

Unless there's some in-built +.86 bias towards me, w00t :D

Unless there's some in-built +.86 bias towards me, w00t :D

I think it must be the Liverpool-fan bonus. Yes, that's it, Liverpool-fan bonus, and I want my .86 now please.

Its from the 3 point bonus for qualifying for WC34, since those are the ranks post WC37 Quals when you do the ranks after WC37 Starblaydia will have 0 points

Ah-ha, nice one. Thank-you :)

70 Jeru FC 6.66

Right! :D
I'm officially evil.

What?!

You can't get OpenOffice?

It's free to Download!

It takes like a year to open.

TY Sel Appa. wtg on 3rd BTW

No prob and thank ye.

No the Sox need to lose to keep Bostonians in check.

I thought that said Bostopians...

It takes like a year to open.
So use one of the 10.93 other (http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/) programs (http://www.koffice.org/kspread/) that (http://www.editgrid.com/) can (http://docs.google.com/) read (http://www.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/) OpenDocument files.

And the new version is considerably faster. 2.3 works much better for me than 2.0 did.

It takes like a year to open.

Nah. I'd be surprised if it took longer than 00:10.93 secs to open, let alone a number anywhere near there.

And the new version is considerably faster. 2.3 works much better for me than 2.0 did.

Fine, I'll give it a try when I get around to it.

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7-0

Thank you.

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7-0

Thank you.

Don't make Slavia Prague fans cry! :p

Oh, check your JMC thread! You have more business.

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7-0

Thank you.

Today, all the news related to football here in Brazil was overshadowed by the news that Romário (the attacker) will coach Vasco in one game... and play in the same game too (probably entering in the second half).

World Cup Host Results!

Potential Hosts!

Az-mot (Az-cz and Demot)
K-P-V (Kura-Pelland and Vephrall)

With a total of 14 votes.... the result is....

Az-mot: 2
K-P-V: 12

Congratulations KPV! With just over 85% of the vote!

Today, there were no news about (association) football at all in Canada :p

Your existence is all the more petty and meaningless compared to the glory of 7-0. :p

Allow me to be the first to say...

o_O

A big thank you to everyone who voted, and here's to (hopefully) a successful WC38! :)

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7-0

Thank you.

Is that the Arsenal Score or the New England Patriots record? lol