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If goal difference is to be used to break ties, as stated in your bid thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13130838&postcount=5), then unlike as stated (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13261927&postcount=16), Ad'ihan haven't yet been eliminated, since a win over Tuaim plus a Squorn win over Archreg on MD14 will mean Ad'ihan (currently +14) qualifies over The Archregimancy (currently +10) on GD.

I have no opinion either way, but I will need to change the Archregimancy's RP (or add a new one) if LE is right, so some sort of clarification would be welcome.

Az-cz is currently looking for bid partners for WC39.

Az-cz is currently looking for bid partners for WC39.

And while we're on the topic of hosting bids, anyone who'd like to host the next BoF (pre-WC39) is welcome to telegram me (Liverpool England) or PM me on IRC (LE) for a possible bid. Just a quick note for IC purposes Ad'ihan will not be involved in this.

Bid thread stands, so GD is still the deciding factor.

Good spot LE, and that combination is not tremendously unlikely either!

If goal difference is to be used to break ties, as stated in your bid thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13130838&postcount=5), then unlike as stated (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13261927&postcount=16), Ad'ihan haven't yet been eliminated, since a win over Tuaim plus a Squorn win over Archreg on MD14 will mean Ad'ihan (currently +14) qualifies over The Archregimancy (currently +10) on GD.

Simple arithmetic error on my part. My apologies. It's fixed now.

Lur-Mn: Well congratulations to Ulzaxid for qualifying for their first world cup. There will be at least one other first timer joining them, as either Candelaria & Marquez or Kiryu-shi will be qualifying but neither is through yet.

For the record, Az, I think you'll find Kiryu-shi were at WC37. You played them, I do believe... Only drew. :D

And I thought I was the one with the nation who ignored any awkward facts... :)

I don't ignore awkward facts. I'm just dumb. There's a difference :)

Az/Ulz - I noticed five Bostopian players are "on" the Ulzaxid squad. I'm actually quite honoured to have players be "noticed", ta very much!

Goal difference is better than head-to-head IMO, it's a group competition, why tie-break on 2 games out of 14? Stupid FIFA/Spanish League &c.

[mild rant relating to rl football and in no way connected to K-P and Veph's sterling efforts this past fortnight]

Goal difference is better than head-to-head IMO, it's a group competition, why tie-break on 2 games out of 14? Stupid FIFA/Spanish League &c.

Surely though football is about winning games, not scoring goals? Why reward a team who occasionally goes nuclear on the very worst of opponents over one which, for the sake of argument, beat t'other side convincingly both home and away? It makes no more sense to me than giving the position to the side with the fewest yellow cards, or summat.

[/mild rant relating to rl football and in no way connected to K-P and Veph's sterling efforts this past fortnight]

A RL football comment too:

Well, that's why I prefer number of wins, which is the tiebreaking procedure of most Brazilian competitions (including the national leagues). It rewards the team that wins games, and consider all games instead of just 2.

Match day 13

3 points available max

Qualified
G01 Elves
G01 Bazalonia
G01 Quakmybush
...
G02 Arridia
G02 Ulzaxid
...
G03 Sel Appa
G03 Tynelia
...
G04 Demot
...
G05 Az-cz
...
G06 Jeruselem
G06 Capitalizt SLANI
...
G07 Wentland
G07 Milchama
G07 Bostopia
...
G08 Squornshelous
G08 Bettia
...
G09 Errinundera
G09 Cafundéu
G09 Novapsolu
...
G10 Zwangzug
G10 The Holy Empire

To hard
G02
JSY or Vilita, JSY 3 points ahead so Vilita need win and JSY need draw or better.

G03
Geisenfried and Daehanjeiguk 3 points ahead of Dance 2 Revolution.
D2R need other two teams to lose.

G04
Oliverry, Northern Bettia and Sorthern Northland fight over 2 spots
Sorthern Northland need to win and hope one of the others lose.

G05
Turori, Qazox and Endmile fight over 2 spots.
Qazox look safe, it's the last spot which is most contested between Turori and Endmile.

G06
Either Candelaria And Marquez or Kiryu-shi. C&M 3 points ahead and better GD too.

G08
Monks or Adi'han, Monks 3 points ahead but a worse GD too.

G10
Yafor 2 or Kansiov for one spot, Yafor 2 3 points ahead and better GD too.

Liverpool England and Zwangzug will bid to host the next Baptism of Fire tournament, barring any major complications.

Liverpool England and Zwangzug will bid to host the next Baptism of Fire tournament, barring any major complications.

The FFSA has begun exploring a potential bid for the Baptism of Fire.

Liverpool England and Zwangzug will bid to host the next Baptism of Fire tournament, barring any major complications.

A complication to this is that Liverpool England is eligible itself to participate. This brings 2 issues to the floor.

1. Can someone co-host a BoF where they are participating in it.
2. New nations hosting the BoF

As for issue 1, the Baptism of fire is a tournament where new nations battle it out to see who's better. A host of the event would receive a boost that is unfair. All teams should be equal as well as potential bias and other issues related with playing in your own BoF

There is also the fact that LE is an experienced Sporter, and a similiar precident (while sort of) with Miceland. A team that itself had only one WC under it's recent belt hosting the BoF. While the circumstances are different it does have similiarities.

As for issue 2, it has long been general practice that new nations have not hosted the BoF. There is the matter however of how we define "new". LE has KPB of 0 and so by definition has been out of international footballing long enough to lose his previous experience, from an IC and team performance point of view. And then there is also the fact that he has still been a member of the WCC and EWCC during this time.

I have come to decision that I believe is fair but appropriate, and raise the suggestion of perhaps formalising rules as to this.

LE is welcome to host the Baptism of Fire, as to the fact that as a person he is not new to the World Cup scene and is in the EWCC, but I would like to see if Le-Zwang (or whatever they call themselves that LE not participate himself, despite technically me not having power to say so. Since it's now at the hosts discretion.

Bos,

Don't you remember me asking for submissions? There are Bostopians on the roster cause you did so.

I didn't expect MD 13 and 14 to pop up on the same calendar day.. (knida crimps the RP's i had planned,) But For the most part, no undeserving teams (although It would have been nice to see Daehanjeiguk make it).

Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Squornshelous 14 11 1 2 39 17 22 34
2 Bettia 14 11 0 3 62 19 43 33
3 Ad'ihan 14 9 1 4 37 19 18 28
4 The Archregimancy 14 9 1 4 32 23 9 28
5 Casari 14 4 1 9 17 27 -10 13
6 Vikingholm 14 4 1 9 19 37 -18 13
7 Tuaim 14 2 2 10 11 47 -36 8
8 Spaam 14 2 1 11 11 39 -28 7


I see Monks got their glorious disaster :p

I didn't expect MD 13 and 14 to pop up on the same calendar day.. (knida crimps the RP's i had planned,)

Hmm...

MD13: 1:18am EST
MD14: 11:27pm EST

That's over 22 hours - pretty much the same as scorinating at 9pm one day and then 7pm the next. I'd say that's perfectly fine, personally.

(MD13 scorination was a bit later than originally planned for two reasons - one was the delay in MD12 (even with the deliberate delay, MD13 was only about 17 hours after MD12, which is still less than I'd generally like), and the other was a group project that was due at midnight that night that took precedence over scorination - ah, the joys of being a college student.)

But For the most part, no undeserving teams (although It would have been nice to see Daehanjeiguk make it).

Here I agree with you, it would've been nice for the Han to make it through, but the numbers just didn't quite fall right.

Ugh, I'd appreciate not having to look at my damn 13 points. :p

Baz, I never said I'm signing up. I'd just be hosting it. LE will not be rejoining the World Cup, nor the BoF. Please don't assume.

The FFSA has begun exploring a potential bid for the Baptism of Fire.

Quick question, if you do win the bid, will this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13256964&postcount=1723) affect the BoF in any way?

Oh, WTG C&M for qualifying! :)

Hmm...

MD13: 1:18am EST
MD14: 11:27pm EST
....

Only reason why it seemed so close was my computer was too busy deciding that I had to do a Virus/System Scan at 11:00 pm, when I have it scheduled for 11:00 am. An somehow while it was doing that, it decided 'HEY YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ONLINE, RIGHT?' at about 11:01 pm.

Definitely the odd undeserving team - Geisenfried over Daehanjeiguk stands out a mile, and Erri going 14-0-0 without one RP makes me cry - but for the most part it's gone to plan, and the success of C&M over non-RPing Kiryu-shi is especially heartening.

I think the results have probably gone as well as Margaret could allow.

Post-qualifying ranks - the ones the final will use, and I'd recommend the CoH does too - coming later today.

Oh, WTG C&M for qualifying! :)

Thank you, thank you *bows*

And now, as oficially the second-worst team in the tournement, I'll look forward to some proper spanking :D

I see Monks got their glorious disaster :p

Joking and RP aside, I'm actually pretty disheartened by this. This isn't one of those 'omigod how did i loose' rants, merely an acknowledgement that as much as we (I hope) RP for fun, most of us realistically have more fun if we feel our team is, if not winning, then at least progressing. And the Archregimancy isn't just not progressing, it's going backwards at an extraordinary rate.

The spectacular decline's just left me short of enthusiasm for the World Cup. I stress again that this isn't a complaint against any hosts, or scorination, or imagined iniquities that see non-RPing nations, or more recent nations, leap ahead of the monks. I fully recognise that in a world of random numbers I've simply been horribly, horribly unlucky.

But who amongst us doesn't prefer being lucky over being unlucky?

I'm seriously considering doing a Starblaydia and letting my KPB rank run down to 0 before coming back again, but, equally, part of me feels that this is perilously close to a sulk, and that I'd be better off just lumping it and pushing forward. I haven't really made my mind up yet.

Though even if I do pull out, I might keep the Holy Empire running as a latter day TnUI, just entering the competition without RP'ing, just to maintain a presence. Even if I temporarily withdraw the Archregimancy, I won't vanish from broader World Cup discussion.

I just think I might need a break.

Joking and RP aside, I'm actually pretty disheartened by this. This isn't one of those 'omigod how did i loose' rants, merely an acknowledgement that as much as we (I hope) RP for fun, most of us realistically have more fun if we feel our team is, if not winning, then at least progressing. And the Archregimancy isn't just not progressing, it's going backwards at an extraordinary rate.

The spectacular decline's just left me short of enthusiasm for the World Cup. I stress again that this isn't a complaint against any hosts, or scorination, or imagined iniquities that see non-RPing nations, or more recent nations, leap ahead of the monks. I fully recognise that in a world of random numbers I've simply been horribly, horribly unlucky.

But who amongst us doesn't prefer being lucky over being unlucky?

I'm seriously considering doing a Starblaydia and letting my KPB rank run down to 0 before coming back again, but, equally, part of me feels that this is perilously close to a sulk, and that I'd be better off just lumping it and pushing forward. I haven't really made my mind up yet.

Though even if I do pull out, I might keep the Holy Empire running as a latter day TnUI, just entering the competition without RP'ing, just to maintain a presence. Even if I temporarily withdraw the Archregimancy, I won't vanish from broader World Cup discussion.

I just think I might need a break.

You were leading with 3 points but had a 4 goal disadvantage on GD. All you need was a draw, but you were playing Squorn which didn't help at all.

I'll concede right now that I wanted the monks to make it. At least you went out to an RPer, which Daehanjeiguk didn't (now that one I am bitter about). And yes, it sucks to feel like you're going backwards. Both me and Veph know that one from 37, our qualifying campaigns were worse than 36's which was a bitter pill to swallow.

If I could have swapped your record with Errinundera's, I would do it in a heartbeat. But nevermind. Best of luck in the CoH, I don't doubt you'll be a major contender there and I would put you down as strong favourites (the only obvious dangers are Kiryu-shi, Vilita and D2R, and only the last of these have done anything to warrant inclusion anyway).

Which links neatly onto the post-qualification ranks, which will be made available in the usual formats soon. The main news is that Arri and Az have swapped places at the top (due to Az's superior WC35 qualification campaign being removed from consideration).

You were leading with 3 points but had a 4 goal disadvantage on GD. All you need was a draw, but you were playing Squorn which didn't help at all.

That rather misses the point. My sense of disappointment isn't with a single result that could have happened to anyone, and that's simple bad luck. My sense of disappointment instead stems from a general feeling that I'm no longer taking a personal sense of achievement and enjoyability commensurate to the effort I try to put in; and that I'm honest enough to acknowledge that this is related to the precipitous decline in the Archregimancy's rank over the last four World Cups.

Individual bad results, or individual poor campaigns, are something any of us can - or should be able to - cope with. A long stretch of increasingly bad poor campaigns is disheartening, and I defy anyone here to honestly state that they wouldn't be feeling fairly disheartened in my position too.

It's like any game; you play whether you win or lose - but you usually have more fun if you at least feel that you're getting better.

That rather misses the point. My sense of disappointment isn't with a single result that could have happened to anyone, and that's simple bad luck. My sense of disappointment instead stems from a general feeling that I'm no longer taking a personal sense of achievement and enjoyability commensurate to the effort I try to put in; and that I'm honest enough to acknowledge that this is related to the precipitous decline in the Archregimancy's rank over the last four World Cups.

Individual bad results, or individual poor campaigns, are something any of us can - or should be able to - cope with. A long stretch of increasingly bad poor campaigns is disheartening, and I defy anyone here to honestly state that they wouldn't be feeling fairly disheartened in my position too.

It's like any game; you play whether you win or lose - but you usually have more fun if you at least feel that you're getting better.

I was personally disappointed that you didn't make it and Squorn, who didn't RP much if at all, did. Being honest I had a very similar view. After all the effort I'd put in RPing this cup as Ad'ihan - arguably my highest level of RPing in a cup in a long time - I would have been as bitter as you are now to miss out. I would have similarly been dejected and rather disappointed that my effort had gone to 'waste', effectively. I hope you don't quit - give it one more cup? Margaret's bound to find a new team to pick on soon.

I think the point is less that he was unlucky on the last day than he was unlucky overall. Which is unarguable. And the fact that he went from a regular qualifier with some success in the cup itself to missing twice in a row, while RPing, has to be disheartening.

Either way I hope you recover your good spirit. Both the Archregimancy and AIF RPs have been consistently great and you add a lot to the cup.

I think the point is less that he was unlucky on the last day than he was unlucky overall. Which is unarguable.

That's rather one-sided don't you think?

))Clearly Arch's bad luck is because of the foul anathema cast down on the New Othydoxic Christian Church of Reborn Othydoxy a few Cups back. Since that day the Lord of Scores turned away from the monks causing their downward spiral while Tynelia, blessed by the sacred scores, has gone in the opposite direction.((


)) (( <--- IC brackets for a ooc thread :D

which is really a shame because i've been dying to have the Othydoxyians in the same group as Arch since i came up with the idea for them. :(

maybe you just need the nigh-invincible knights of Tessan to return for another Iliad-like inspiration for ya Arch :)

You know, it'd be nice if some of these other sports thingies that pop up could manage a participation above 15, because I have to say, Soccer (and probably the various other football codes) get really, really old after 38 editions.

How is it onesided to say that Arch got unlucky?

But I must say that despite the unluckiness of Arch and Daehan, I think this scorinator has produced pretty good results.

Which links neatly onto the post-qualification ranks, which will be made available in the usual formats soon. The main news is that Arri and Az have swapped places at the top (due to Az's superior WC35 qualification campaign being removed from consideration).

Indeed they will. And by "soon", I mean "now".

Just the facts, ma'am (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.pdf) (PDF)
I'll have the usual (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.xls) (Excel)
Can I get this order to go, please? (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.ods) (ODF)

Bos,

Don't you remember me asking for submissions? There are Bostopians on the roster cause you did so.

Honestly, I don't remember. Oh well, thanks for using them then ;-)

You know, it'd be nice if some of these other sports thingies that pop up could manage a participation above 15, because I have to say, Soccer (and probably the various other football codes) get really, really old after 38 editions.

The WBC has had at least 20 teams in every incarnation, and the WCof Hockey has had 20+ as well. Although i believe that you might refer to RPers, in that case you're right.

Thank you, thank you *bows*

And now, as oficially the second-worst team in the tournement, I'll look forward to some proper spanking :D

I don't think that Ariddia will take too well being called the Worst team in the Cup. (LOL, I know that Geisenfried is technically the worst)

I was personally disappointed that you didn't make it and Squorn, who didn't RP much if at all, did. Being honest I had a very similar view. After all the effort I'd put in RPing this cup as Ad'ihan - arguably my highest level of RPing in a cup in a long time - I would have been as bitter as you are now to miss out. I would have similarly been dejected and rather disappointed that my effort had gone to 'waste', effectively. I hope you don't quit - give it one more cup? Margaret's bound to find a new team to pick on soon.

And I should make it absolutely clear that I harbour no resentment or ill-will towards you or anyone else in the group (or the hosts, or the scorinator, etc., etc., etc.)

But three or four cups of precipitous decline in a row, with two consecutive desperately unlucky failures to qualify, with a consequent collapse in rankings, which as a result makes it harder to qualify every time this happens, while batches of newer (but by no means underserving) teams bypass me by the cup. While even my own 'secondary' nation shoots past me.

Well, that would surely get to any of us.

But I'm danger of turning into a whinger at this point, which isn't really the point of this, so I'll leave things for the time being, take a short break, and give myself some time to see whether I have the desire to sign up for WC39.

I know I'm only unlucky, and that statistically this sort of thing is as likely to happen to me as to anyone.

I'm just venting a little frustration, that's all.

Look on the bright side, at least I provide a really good example of how top ten placings aren't written in stone, and that RPing doesn't guarantee you anything! You can always use me as a necessary example to illustrate the point to newbies ;)

Just the facts, ma'am (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.pdf) (PDF)


Ooh, goodie, I'm back up to n°1. Thanks!

And commiserations to Arch. That's almost incredible lack of luck. I'd be thoroughly disheartened too.

Just a reminder, we have another friendly break tonight.

Scorination of friendlies will occur at approximately midnight EST (that's about seven hours from now), so please post here or send me a TG if you haven't already if you have a match that needs to be done.

Just a reminder, we have another friendly break tonight.

Scorination of friendlies will occur at approximately midnight EST (that's about seven hours from now), so please post here or send me a TG if you haven't already if you have a match that needs to be done.

Indeed they will. And by "soon", I mean "now".

Just the facts, ma'am (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.pdf) (PDF)
I'll have the usual (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.xls) (Excel)
Can I get this order to go, please? (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Post-Q Rankings.ods) (ODF)

7th Wh00t!

Just a reminder, we have another friendly break tonight.

Scorination of friendlies will occur at approximately midnight EST (that's about seven hours from now), so please post here or send me a TG if you haven't already if you have a match that needs to be done.
Just out of curiosity, could I have my team play a "simulation" against the maximum KPB possible?

I won't pretend to fully understand the Archregimancy's situation, but instead hypothesize that people won't think any worse of you if you take a "breather", particularly if it could forestall future frustration and recharge your creativity. Starblaydia's not the only user to have done so, and making your intentions clear in advance should prevent any misconceptions. As for leaving the Holy Empire as a non-RPing participant, I suppose I'd just quietly suggest you examine whether that's truly the image you want to project-though again, it's not really my place to comment.

Congratulations to Candelaria And Marquez, and good luck in the proper! :)

Paradoxically DNQing is probably better for a longer-term RP...in the CoH the Reg ought to get to the semis at least, whereas in the WCF first-round elimination might have been on the cards.

That rather misses the point. My sense of disappointment isn't with a single result that could have happened to anyone, and that's simple bad luck. My sense of disappointment instead stems from a general feeling that I'm no longer taking a personal sense of achievement and enjoyability commensurate to the effort I try to put in; and that I'm honest enough to acknowledge that this is related to the precipitous decline in the Archregimancy's rank over the last four World Cups.

Individual bad results, or individual poor campaigns, are something any of us can - or should be able to - cope with. A long stretch of increasingly bad poor campaigns is disheartening, and I defy anyone here to honestly state that they wouldn't be feeling fairly disheartened in my position too.

It's like any game; you play whether you win or lose - but you usually have more fun if you at least feel that you're getting better.

Don't give up! It took Jeruselem 6 cups (WC17) to actually qualify - while for example - C&M took two. I think you got a really hard group which was quite unlucky. For me, making the 2nd round took even longer (WC26) but you seem to have this a lot faster.

I think you and Dae should have made but some of those thrashings from Bettia and friends sunk your campaign, and poor Dae missed out by not much all.
At least you have two top 50 teams, Jeruselem hangs around the top 10 and my useless Jeru FC might qualify in WC100 ...

We need the Monks in the WC finals! :)
The top 10 is far from static (except for some teams like Arridia).

Just a reminder, we have another friendly break tonight.

Scorination of friendlies will occur at approximately midnight EST (that's about seven hours from now), so please post here or send me a TG if you haven't already if you have a match that needs to be done.

Ad'ihan will travel to face their World Cup 37 cohosts, please.

Jeruselem #10
Jeru FC #52

My puppet is doing the pub crawl up the rankings! :D
They'll get to top 20 after falling over about 100 times.

Jeru FC needs a new coach too!

Taeshan would like a friendly with the following nations, Jerusalem, jeru fc, Daehanjeikung, the archregimancy, ac cz and arridia

Ashlaea (puppet entered in next cup) Would like friendly vs taeshan (confirmed), jeru fc and the archregimany

Taeshan would like a friendly with the following nations, Jerusalem, jeru fc, Daehanjeikung, the archregimancy, ac cz and arridia

Ashlaea (puppet entered in next cup) Would like friendly vs taeshan (confirmed), jeru fc and the archregimany

Confirming Tashan vs Jeruselem (some twat took Jerusalem)
Confirming Jeru FC vs Ashlaea

Rankings have been updated again - the pre-WC37 BoF results had been inadvertently left out of the latest copy. This affects...well, Prux, Taeshan, and Uiri. That's about it, really. The links a few posts up are still valid.

84th? Not bad for coming back from being unranked... still got a lot of work to go to try to make the top 36. :D

Oh yeah, and whoever is hosting the CoH... I'm gonna sign up for sure. :p

Maybe I'm too much of a novice to care, but I'm not too dismayed not to qualify. Sure, I spoke alot. I missed out on qualification because I lost 2 goals somewhere, but that's okay. There's always next year. Besides that, not qualifying gives me a reason to care about my lovely CoH bid with Cafundeu (who's got Estresse Intenso to cover his side)!

So if you were really distressed that Daehanjeiguk didn't qualify, then you know for whom to vote! (j/k! although it would be nice too)

Anyway, save your commiserations for another day. I've yet to qualify, so no need to cry.

*goes off-stage and bawls*

oh yeah, and we accept the challenge from Taeshan - at their home, if they please.

Hey everybody. Sorry about effectively dropping out of RPing... RL academics have taken over my life, and will probably continue to until the end of the semester. Normally I wouldn't assume it's a problem, except that I told a couple other nations I'd be doing RPs involving them, and just completely didn't do them, so I just thought I'd drop a small note of apology... congrats to all the qualifiers, though, and I will see all of you in World Cup 39!

Rankings have been updated again - the pre-WC37 BoF results had been inadvertently left out of the latest copy. This affects...well, Prux, Taeshan, and Uiri. That's about it, really. The links a few posts up are still valid.

Wait a minute here. Were the pre-WC37 BoF results included at all during this past Cup? If so, then oh well, but if they weren't included, then I got screwed then right?

Not complaining, just wondering that's all.

Yay #21... slowly climbing up that long ladder of success.

Hey everybody. Sorry about effectively dropping out of RPing... RL academics have taken over my life, and will probably continue to until the end of the semester. Normally I wouldn't assume it's a problem, except that I told a couple other nations I'd be doing RPs involving them, and just completely didn't do them, so I just thought I'd drop a small note of apology... congrats to all the qualifiers, though, and I will see all of you in World Cup 39!


Don't feel bad. I graduated from college in May, so I know what it's like. RL always should take precedence over RPing, which is why I haven't RPed much.


Wait a minute here. Were the pre-WC37 BoF results included at all during this past Cup? If so, then oh well, but if they weren't included, then I got screwed then right?

Not complaining, just wondering that's all.


I'm sure they were, otherwise all of us from the BoF would have been unranked going in and gotten thrashed worse than we did (as if I didn't get abused badly enough as it was).


On a side note, I would also be interested in participating in the CoH if the hosts (whomever they end up being) deem me worthy of a place.

I'm sure they were, otherwise all of us from the BoF would have been unranked going in and gotten thrashed worse than we did (as if I didn't get abused badly enough as it was).

Well, if that was the case, you still wouldn't have been unranked, because of the points from WC37 qualifying proper...

Wait a minute here. Were the pre-WC37 BoF results included at all during this past Cup? If so, then oh well, but if they weren't included, then I got screwed then right?

Not complaining, just wondering that's all.

Alas, in the interest of honesty, I must concede that no, they were not. Exactly how they ended up being left out of the official WC38 rankings, I'm not quite certain, but nobody (including, shamefully enough, me, one of the primary maintainers of the rankings) noticed the error until Zwangzug pointed it out on IRC earlier this evening.

I take full responsibility for the screwup, as I was the one that prepared that particular set of rankings.

The overall effect in the case of Prux (which tied with Tremarendakia for the greatest number of points in that BoF) was just over 1 KPB point.

I sincerely apologize for the error, and regret that it was only noticed now, after qualifying has already been completed.

Alas, in the interest of honesty, I must concede that no, they were not. Exactly how they ended up being left out of the official WC38 rankings, I'm not quite certain, but nobody (including, shamefully enough, me, one of the primary maintainers of the rankings) noticed the error until Zwangzug pointed it out on IRC earlier this evening.

I take full responsibility for the screwup, as I was the one that prepared that particular set of rankings.

The overall effect in the case of Prux (which tied with Tremarendakia for the greatest number of points in that BoF) was just over 1 KPB point.

I sincerely apologize for the error, and regret that it was only noticed now, after qualifying has already been completed.

Ok, No biggie, even though I may have won 1 or two matches instead of drawing them or a gotten a draw instead of a loss, right?

My concern is that it may have allowed a team from my group to get in when they might not have, (Bostopia, Milchama, Wentland all got in, while Lovisa didn't, Maybe Lovisa could have gotten in, if i drew, one of the 3 that did get in, twice instead of losing twice).

I don't think 1 KPB point would have gotten me any closer to the Cup.

Well, if that was the case, you still wouldn't have been unranked, because of the points from WC37 qualifying proper...

Oops. I'm observant tonight. I still would have been unranked, as I didn't start participating until the pre-WC 38 BoF, and the BoF in question was pre-WC 37.

The World Cup finals draw.
Tonight, 2355 UTC/1855 ET, live on #nssport

Despite nothing to do directly with the World Cup, I'd like to announce that I just landed myself a proper job as a graphic designer, and so will not be around normal net geek hours to do RPing and such for the foreseeable future, i.e. until they fire me. Yey!

I'd also like to auto-accept any CoH invite that may come Starblaydia's way.

The World Cup finals draw.
Tonight, 2355 UTC/1855 ET, live on #nssport

Don't make it too obvious...:p

(simulation)
Sel Appa 1-2 Max KPB*

* The maximum possible KPB score is 69.
Interesting...was this home, away, or neutral?

Interesting...was this home, away, or neutral?

That was at home.

Despite nothing to do directly with the World Cup, I'd like to announce that I just landed myself a proper job as a graphic designer, and so will not be around normal net geek hours to do RPing and such for the foreseeable future, i.e. until they fire me. Yey!

I'd also like to auto-accept any CoH invite that may come Starblaydia's way.

So we are not expecting any sub-standard graphics on your posts then? :p

So we are not expecting any sub-standard graphics on your posts then? :p

Quiet, you :p It's magazine design, layout, adverts etc.

Maybe my posts will get a lot more graphicy, or maybe I'll be sick of it and resort to plain old text forever more. Who knowS?

While Technically the vote should not be quite finished yet. Taking into account that I am moving very soon. I'm posting the results of the vote now. The extra day or wouldn't make much impact on the vote anyway.

And so with 5 votes to 1 (with 6 having been cast) I hereby officially award Hostage of the 30th Cup of Harmony to...

Casa-Nova

While Technically the vote should not be quite finished yet. Taking into account that I am moving very soon. I'm posting the results of the vote now. The extra day or wouldn't make much impact on the vote anyway.

And so with 5 votes to 1 (with 6 having been cast) I hereby officially award Hostage of the 26th Cup of Harmony to...

Casa-Nova

30th, Baz :p

Anyways, invites for CoH xXx will be sent out shortly, with a quick turnaround.

Quiet, you :p It's magazine design, layout, adverts etc.

Maybe my posts will get a lot more graphicy, or maybe I'll be sick of it and resort to plain old text forever more. Who knowS?

Mauve Magazine! Can't wait! :D

While Technically the vote should not be quite finished yet. Taking into account that I am moving very soon. I'm posting the results of the vote now. The extra day or wouldn't make much impact on the vote anyway.

And so with 5 votes to 1 (with 6 having been cast) I hereby officially award Hostage of the 30th Cup of Harmony to...

Casa-Nova

BOOOOO!

30th, Baz :p

Anyways, invites for CoH xXx will be sent out shortly, with a quick turnaround.

No, it is 26th.

BOOOOO!



No, it is 26th.

Au contraire (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/cup_of_harmony.html), Sel.

Now go away, big people are talking :p

Au contraire (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/cup_of_harmony.html), Sel.

Now go away, big people are talking :p

LOL

My only CoH (not Jeru FC)

CoH 6 (WC14)
Hosted by Vilita and The Belmore Family
Final: Vilita beat Jeruselem 4-2 AET (FT: 1-1)

No, it is 26th.

I think Sel got mixed up between CoH and BoF's.... I know that's what I did :p

Nire and Nire Seek Football Manager

Are you an inexperienced football manager? Know nothing about football? Want to run around in short shorts all day? Then we have the job for you! The position of Manager of the Nire and Nire International Team is vacant and needs to be filled before the upcoming Cup of Harmony. If you are interested then please contact the Nire and Nire FA with a CV stating your inexperience for the job. Hurry - position must be filled in the next two days.

/me channels Qazox

Northern Bettia and Ulzaxid :( One of the teams I least wanted IC and the team I least wanted OOC. Again :(

I rather think i got a decent draw. I might possibly beat 2 of those teams.

/me channels Qazox

Northern Bettia and Ulzaxid :( One of the teams I least wanted IC and the team I least wanted OOC. Again :(

In the middle of the draw, KP and I were scared for a moment that it was going to turn out: Az-cz, Bettia, Northern Bettia, Ulzaxid. That would have been truly awful from an OOC perspective.

I rather think i got a decent draw. I might possibly beat 2 of those teams.

I have to be perfectly honest, I'm surprised by that reaction, because if you ask me I think you have the hardest group out of all of them. Group E is the only other one that compares, and I think B is tougher because it has RPers from top to bottom.

I rather think i got a decent draw. I might possibly beat 2 of those teams.

Well, Arridia should help you in the end as it should win all those games - meaning the other teams don't get points off Arridia which helps you. If you get a draw with Arridia, even better.

In the middle of the draw, KP and I were scared for a moment that it was going to turn out: Az-cz, Bettia, Northern Bettia, Ulzaxid. That would have been truly awful from an OOC perspective.


Glad to be of service.

The Gogs in the opening ceremony? Blimey, that WILL be fun!

I don't suppose anyone would care to take pity on this poor, confused worldcupfinals newbie and tell me who the hell Turori are, besides an island off Vilita?

Edit: *taketheth a wander through Turori's last hundred posts*

Oh, well, that makes things a lot clearer. What the arse is a Cocoabo when it's at home..? :rolleyes:

I don't suppose anyone would care to take pity on this poor, confused worldcupfinals newbie and tell me who the hell Turori are, besides an island off Vilita?

Edit: *taketheth a wander through Turori's last hundred posts*

Oh, well, that makes things a lot clearer. What the arse is a Cocoabo when it's at home..? :rolleyes:

I think I made them famous for 'Turorian webcam sluts' spam emails in an AOCAF many moons ago because, besides having silly names, they're not a lot different to Vilita.

And a Cocoabo? I think it was a little Dodoesque bird.

Au contraire (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/cup_of_harmony.html), Sel.

Now go away, big people are talking :p

Apologies. I was thinking BoF.

Apologies. I was thinking BoF.

No worries, and my apologies for coming off kind of harsh on the reply :cool:

Veph, did you actually calculate those odds, or just threw down numbers?

Veph, did you actually calculate those odds, or just threw down numbers?

A very very loose calculation. In fact, to be honest it's not really even taking into account anything beyond the group stage.

A very very loose calculation. In fact, to be honest it's not really even taking into account anything beyond the group stage.

We need a bookie in here to make real odds.

Congrats to Bos on winning the first match. Hope to go through with ya!

Well, Arridia should help you in the end as it should win all those games - meaning the other teams don't get points off Arridia which helps you. If you get a draw with Arridia, even better.

That's why i think i got a decent group. i only need a Win and 2 draws or go 1-1-1 and i might go through.

(of course that is before i actually looked at the results... :()

Well done C&M!

I got Firth-ed today ...

Well done C&M!


Well I am the darling of this cup... :rolleyes:

Well I am the darling of this cup... :rolleyes:

Well, if you are on a roll ... just keep going because it's not going last forever. :p

Using a computer and having hiccups is not fun ... can't concentrate (and it's over 30C)

Well done C&M!

I got Firth-ed today ...

To quote Jackass' Steve-O after destroying his ceiling fan - "Good game, buddy."

To quote Jackass' Steve-O after destroying his ceiling fan - "Good game, buddy."

I'm not going try the same thing, while it's spinning at 1000 rpm at the moment! :)

Ugh. A horrible group. With horrible, and rather harsh, results.

That's why i think i got a decent group. i only need a Win and 2 draws or go 1-1-1 and i might go through.

(of course that is before i actually looked at the results... :()

Just forget that i even posted this... :headbang:

It's a wonder what an unexpected tonic a 4-1 victory can be.

Alright, as you may have gathered from the sudden appearance of an AIF RP, the Dreamed Realm sulk is over. Sorry about that. I just needed a few days off to recharge my batteries and think of some approaches to the next tournament or two.

So the Holy Empire will RP the rest of this Cup.

Perhaps more importantly, the Archregimancy will accept any CoH invititation, though expect a far more serious and sober approach to Orthodoxy than we saw this past qualification campaign.

And both teams will be back for the next World Cup, signing up by the end of this week.

Again, apologies for the sulk. As stated, I just needed some time to think through my approach.

Information and Notes
-Casari will be playing home games at the brand new Tyrellia World Stadium, holding a disgusting 110,393 fans with two complete seating areas and a third high altitude terrace on the ends, made of the classic Casaran Method of soaring steel girders and marble facade. Try not to burn it down.

-Casarans will do what Casarans have done for years- drink, do bizarre things on dares, drink, sleep in parks, drink, goof off, and drink. As well, they will ignore most of the etiquette of soccer, mock your pregame rituals (they will laugh at them, especally the Ulek, which might promote some kind of drinking game among the fans with each useless grunt), being nice (they'll come up with nasty chants about your team, manager, mothers, fathers, and other associates and post them on the internet), and won't mind taking a run at your best player (they just don't care).

For our sakes, let just hope that the Han don't get selected into your country - we never really resolved those terrorists things...

For our sakes, let just hope that the Han don't get selected into your country - we never really resolved those terrorists things...

On the other hand, a Casari-Ariddia match would be interesting. Especially if it takes place in Ariddia, and a few Casari supporters do something to get themselves arrested. Do they ever break things?

On the other hand, a Casari-Ariddia match would be interesting. Especially if it takes place in Ariddia, and a few Casari supporters do something to get themselves arrested. Do they ever break things?

I'm not sure if this is well understood:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539491

If people die in my recent, RP, you know why.

Paradoxically DNQing is probably better for a longer-term RP...in the CoH the Reg ought to get to the semis at least, whereas in the WCF first-round elimination might have been on the cards.
Aaaaaand proof is in the pudding...

I really am getting tired of this "Knock Yourself Out" you know :p

I really am getting tired of this "Knock Yourself Out" you know :p

I'm not the best of moods either :rolleyes:

I'm not the best of moods either :rolleyes:

I am. :)

If yer going to be knocked out, six-nil's the way to go!

I am. :)

If yer going to be knocked out, six-nil's the way to go!

This will help your ranking, it will shoot up!

Going out on a head-to-head after having the same GD is not way ...

On the other hand, a Casari-Ariddia match would be interesting. Especially if it takes place in Ariddia, and a few Casari supporters do something to get themselves arrested. Do they ever break things?

You know, you could just ask me as well. Buggers.

Well, that depends. We have a monument to hooliganism made from flipped cars stacked and welded on top of one another, so anything's possible. Particularly when we play some Reds. We'd have to go to Bos on the official alliance position on Reds.

You know, you could just ask me as well.

I did.

Well, that depends. We have a monument to hooliganism made from flipped cars stacked and welded on top of one another, so anything's possible.

Hmm. Well, if ever there's such a match, feel free to have some of your supporters arrested. :p

Naa, you asked the Hans. :p Not that I mind of course- they do have a level of expertise in blowing us up. Either way, the Casaran soccer fan, considering all the classy, educated individuals turn to domestically-created sports, relish the act and excitement of a good bust-up, complete with the primary Casaran martial art of punching someone in the back of the head and Jimmy doing one.

Although I do have a dream of a Casaran referee dispensing Yellow Cards for delaying the start of play during the dance...

I am. :)

If yer going to be knocked out, six-nil's the way to go!

Very nice RP concerning your manager's insanity. I liked it.

Although I do have a dream of a Casaran referee dispensing Yellow Cards for delaying the start of play during the dance...

He'd be booed off the pitch. :p

This will help your ranking, it will shoot up!

Going out on a head-to-head after having the same GD is not way ...

And there was me thinking I'd done it on Goals Scored. There goes my RP idea :(

We'd have to go to Bos on the official alliance position on Reds.

I'm still allied to a Commie nation in my region, though that was purely strategic to get at a guy we called "Captain Morals". I think our Alliance is very anti-Red though...um...back to the WCDT, folks.

Woo I qualified!...where'd the skin off my teeth go?

Given my own medical condition (public knowledge in this thread), you'll forgive me for finding some irony in the following story, the most detailed version of which I can find quickly is:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3007206.ece

Writing as an OOC member of the Orthodox Church, there are a couple of minor inaccuracies in the story (I would dispute the Times' reasoning on the ban on women, and not all of the Monasteries on Athos are Greek - there are also Russian, Serb, and Bulgarian monasteries), but if anyone wants to run with it in RP, either in the CoH or World Cup 39, please feel free.

I'm thinking Ariddia's coach, Jane Sanderson, will probably step down after this Cup (unless Ariddia makes it to the semis). Anyone who's interested in providing Ariddia's first foreign coach, let me know. Baring in mind that there's a reason why Ariddia has never had a foreign coach: Ariddia's moneyless economy means that coaches don't get paid. ;)

I'm thinking Ariddia's coach, Jane Sanderson, will probably step down after this Cup (unless Ariddia makes it to the semis). Anyone who's interested in providing Ariddia's first foreign coach, let me know. Baring in mind that there's a reason why Ariddia has never had a foreign coach: Ariddia's moneyless economy means that coaches don't get paid. ;)

Former leading Archregimancy international, Ariddian native, and indigenous Wymgani Fr. Innocent of Ariddia would be highly interested in returning to his native land to coach.

As an Orthodox monk, he's more than happy to do it for free.

Former leading Archregimancy international, Ariddian native, and indigenous Wymgani Fr. Innocent of Ariddia would be highly interested in returning to his native land to coach.

As an Orthodox monk, he's more than happy to do it for free.

That could be very interesting. The Rouge-et-Noirs would be pleased and honoured to be coached by Fr. Innocent. That would be conditional on Ariddia failing to reach the semis, of course (or doing abyssmally in the semis and then losing the match for the 3rd place too).

If Fr. Innocent does become Ariddia's coach, I'll give some thought as to which Ariddian players are actually religious. Currently, I don't think any of them are Orthodox Christians. The only one whose religion is established in Jamilah Shahrour, who's a practicing Muslim. Jeremy Isaacs, the team's captain, is of Jewish descent, but I've never imagined him as being religious.

He'd be booed off the pitch. :p

Only in Ariddia, where that kind of thing still passes as cool. :p

I'm thinking Ariddia's coach, Jane Sanderson, will probably step down after this Cup (unless Ariddia makes it to the semis). Anyone who's interested in providing Ariddia's first foreign coach, let me know. Baring in mind that there's a reason why Ariddia has never had a foreign coach: Ariddia's moneyless economy means that coaches don't get paid. ;)

Current Marauder Assistant Manager, Dwier Titenburg, is interested, as is EPL Rinaldi Gunner's Asanta Webber.

Given my own medical condition (public knowledge in this thread), you'll forgive me for finding some irony in the following story, the most detailed version of which I can find quickly is:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3007206.ece

Writing as an OOC member of the Orthodox Church, there are a couple of minor inaccuracies in the story (I would dispute the Times' reasoning on the ban on women, and not all of the Monasteries on Athos are Greek - there are also Russian, Serb, and Bulgarian monasteries), but if anyone wants to run with it in RP, either in the CoH or World Cup 39, please feel free.

I do find some of the aspects of Catholicism/Orthodoxy very interesting. Being a hermit is one of the plans for my life...if all others are exhausted.

Has Demot tied the record for greatest margin of victory in a final? I found a 7-1 (Bettia over Vilita in World Cup 31) on the wiki and nothing higher, but there were some old tournaments not fully archived and I'm too lazy to search the forums.

I don't suppose Jane Sanderson would want to take on the useless mob called Jeru FC there! :p

He's not interested in taking over at Jeru FC, but Zax-Im the coach of the Az-cz world cup winners would be interested in taking on a position at an up and coming nation like Daehanjeiguk or The Pazhujeb Islands. Note that those are not the only nations he'd work for. If you're a nation yet to play in the proper and look to be on your way up, let me know if you're interested.

Congratz to Az-cz for accurately picking the Second round picks:


Ariddia v Tynelia
Az-cz v Sel Appa
Milchama v Squornshelous
Commerce Heights v Elves Security Forces

Northern Bettia 0-6 Ariddia
Cafundéu 1-4 Az-cz
Tynelia 2-0 Bostopia
Sel Appa 3-0 Zwangzug
Milchama 1-0 Yafor II
The Holy Empire 3-5 Capitalizt SLANI
Squornshelous 3-1 Quakmybush
Valanora 3-2 Demot

Quarterfinal matchups:

Ariddia v Tynelia, Moje
Az-cz v Sel Appa, Netlas
Milchama v Squornshelous, Parwood
Capitalizt SLANI v Valanora, Porterbridge

He's not interested in taking over at Jeru FC, but Zax-Im the coach of the Az-cz world cup winners would be interested in taking on a position at an up and coming nation like Daehanjeiguk or The Pazhujeb Islands. Note that those are not the only nations he'd work for. If you're a nation yet to play in the proper and look to be on your way up, let me know if you're interested.

we're fine with native coaches, although we're glad to hear that he'd consider a job worthwhile here (if we fail to qualify for WCXXXIX, we'll look overseas then).

Current Vephrall national team assistant manager Rhoetang Dotsmens is interested in a full-time managerial position. He served as interim manager for roughly the second half of WC37 qualifying, compiling a 2-1-3 record in an unsuccessful attempt to salvage the team's qualifying campaign.

Well at least I didn't get the wooden spoon. I think I got the Wooden Spork.

Wow. That was a topsy-turvy first day of the CoH. It showed how hopeless my nation is...on the field and off. Though, I did half my goal total from all of WC 38 qualifying in one match in the CoH.

On the other hand, how about this 2nd match-up for tomorrow's matches after the RP's so far? Hopeless SC vs. Magnus Valerius (who's already been upset by my media). That's a match that has explosive potential written all over it.;)

Aye, the CoH had a number of truly wicked first-day matchups, and there's more in the second. It's the Swiss System at work, I say!

I don't suppose Jane Sanderson would want to take on the useless mob called Jeru FC there! :p

Hmm. Yes, why not.

ESF, thanks, but first dibs go to Fr. Innocent. ;)

Wow. That was a topsy-turvy first day of the CoH. It showed how hopeless my nation is...on the field and off. Though, I did half my goal total from all of WC 38 qualifying in one match in the CoH.

On the other hand, how about this 2nd match-up for tomorrow's matches after the RP's so far? Hopeless SC vs. Magnus Valerius (who's already been upset by my media). That's a match that has explosive potential written all over it.;)

Hey, well Valerians love their football, even though their team isn't that good. :D

Hmm. Yes, why not.

ESF, thanks, but first dibs go to Fr. Innocent. ;)

TG details of her to my Jeruselem account so Jacinta Dallas can process her application.

Very nice RP concerning your manager's insanity. I liked it.

Bless ya. It’s always nice to know that one’s shameless fiddling with a more established nation’s early history hasn’t gone unappreciated…

Has Demot tied the record for greatest margin of victory in a final? I found a 7-1 (Bettia over Vilita in World Cup 31) on the wiki and nothing higher, but there were some old tournaments not fully archived and I'm too lazy to search the forums.

Usually, these sorts of records go to the side who conceded the least goals, so 6-0 is “better” than 7-1.

Of course, there’s now also Northern Bettia 0-6 Ariddia to contend with, but all things considered I’d rather not fight the gogs for right not to have been on the end of the worst whupping in World Cup history. Indeed, it would be an honour. :D

Outgoing Ad'ihan manager Luke Evans is looking for a job as well. Evans performed relatively well as manager, clocking a 0.481 winning percentage (13 wins from 27 games), with 3 draws. Evans, for IC purposes, is a Liverpool England citizen and does not hold Ad'ihani nationality.

I hope my forecasting skills are slightly less accurate in the second round, and that Sel's are wrong as well. :)

<looks around curiously> so...this is the quarterfinals eh? cool :)
<looks at the schedule>

ack ARIDDIA! :(

/tease Qazox on
Tynelia... the ONLY class of 27 team to actually get to the knockouts let alone advance
/tease Qazox off

Hmm. Yes, why not.

ESF, thanks, but first dibs go to Fr. Innocent. ;)

ah, well, it gave me an idea for an RP when I had absolutely none, so not all is lost on the thought :p

first dibs go to Fr. Innocent. ;)

Thanks - though you realise that this means I don't want you to make the semis ;)

Feeling utterly miserable today. Have just found out that I didn't get an academic job that I really, really wanted. It's quite probably the second greatest disappointment of my life (second only to finding out I have leukaemia - hard to top that), so you'll forgive me if my RPs lack any verve for a couple of days.

Feeling utterly miserable today. Have just found out that I didn't get an academic job that I really, really wanted. It's quite probably the second greatest disappointment of my life (second only to finding out I have leukaemia - hard to top that), so you'll forgive me if my RPs lack any verve for a couple of days.

I'm very sorry to hear that.

Do you know where you're going from here? Anything that may cheer you up, help you bounce back up?

/tease Qazox on
Tynelia... the ONLY class of 27 team to actually get to the knockouts let alone advance
/tease Qazox off


PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbtttttttt:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Have just found out that I didn't get an academic job that I really, really wanted.

Jobhunting can be a bitch, I should know - stick at it and it'll come along eventually.

I hope my forecasting skills are slightly less accurate in the second round, and that Sel's are wrong as well. :)

You have the record against me, but I beat you last cup before I was ranked in top 10. Good luck though. :)

Tynelia to win this cup? :p

hmm let's try this again..

<looks around curiously> so... this is what the semis looks like eh? cool. :)
<looks at the next opponnent>

ack AZ-CZ!!!! :(

so my reward for beating the #1b team in the world...is to face 1a. ;)

/tease Qazox just because

Tynelia to win this cup? :p
Considering I have not lost a match this tournament, I think it's Valanora's time to shine ;)

Goodness me, the Monks aren't doing much better in CoH than the WC ...

Quarter-finals

Ariddia 1-2 Tynelia...


ok ty WHO THE HECK did you pay off???

(i'm not being serious folks... jeez, sarcasm.. look it up here:http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarcasm)

It's that time once again!

The 5TH OXEN CUP!

Format TBD

Sign-up post is here if you want to participate: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13284347#post13284347

ok ty WHO THE HECK did you pay off???

Kura-Pelland, obviously. ;)

*pointless bitching*

In reply to your comment about sarcasm (gee, what's that?): yes, I'm well aware you're not 100% serious about such comments as your previous one (and the one before that, and the one before that, and so on).

What I am tired of, and I doubt I am alone in this opinion, is your constant bitching and whining about the results. They happened, get over them; and if you can't get over them, keep it to yourself.

Oh, well. At least I did a little bit better than in WC37. And I had fun RPing the match against Northern Bettia. :p

Oh, well. At least I did a little bit better than in WC37. And I had fun RPing the match against Northern Bettia. :p

I don't blame you, that was rather cool. At long last, the Fire Ants are in the record books!!

Usually, these sorts of records go to the side who conceded the least goals, so 6-0 is “better” than 7-1.

Of course, there’s now also Northern Bettia 0-6 Ariddia to contend with, but all things considered I’d rather not fight the gogs for right not to have been on the end of the worst whupping in World Cup history. Indeed, it would be an honour. :D

I always thought the honours went to the team scoring the most goals... but then again I'm biased.:p

For what it's worth, pedantically (as Veph pointed out, and I was thinking too) that could never have happened IRL, as once a team is down to six players a match is abandoned.

Then again, teams of ninjas and monks and cyborgs and sandwiches/mathematical symbols wouldn't exist IRL either.

It was a good laugh, and probably the RPing line I'd have followed myself except I'd have kept the red cards down to four :p

Heh. It actually came to me while I was writing; I'd started off thinking of just three or four red cards.

Has there ever been a case in RL (that anyone knows of) where a team has been brought down to just six players?

Heh. It actually came to me while I was writing; I'd started off thinking of just three or four red cards.

Has there ever been a case in RL (that anyone knows of) where a team has been brought down to just six players?

I don't know about just with red cards, but counting "injuries" as well there's always the Battle of Bramall Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bramall_Lane)...

I don't know about just with red cards, but counting "injuries" as well there's always the Battle of Bramall Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bramall_Lane)...

Interesting. :D

Goodness me, the Monks aren't doing much better in CoH than the WC ...


No. They're not.

Any word on hosts for WC39. I'm still looking for a partner.

No. They're not.

It's not because we're trying, honestly, I've been willing you wins.

For those wondering why three out of four teams in the semifinals scored 4 or more goals...well, this is what happens when everyone cranks their style modifiers up into the stratosphere. :p

Heh. It actually came to me while I was writing; I'd started off thinking of just three or four red cards.

Has there ever been a case in RL (that anyone knows of) where a team has been brought down to just six players?

There was that match with Veph that got him down to like 7, which is the minimum I think.

For those wondering why three out of four teams in the semifinals scored 4 or more goals...well, this is what happens when everyone cranks their style modifiers up into the stratosphere. :p

Funny that ... looks like System Karela is officially dead.

...

And Ariddia - read your TGs please.

Az-cz 6-2 Sel Appa
Somehow I missed this yesterday...:mad:

By my count, the mean style modifier for this cup is about +2.14.

In reply to your comment about sarcasm (gee, what's that?): yes, I'm well aware you're not 100% serious about such comments as your previous one (and the one before that, and the one before that, and so on).

What I am tired of, and I doubt I am alone in this opinion, is your constant bitching and whining about the results. They happened, get over them; and if you can't get over them, keep it to yourself.

Other than my first loss in the qualifers, when did i bitch in this cup?

besides, no one is forcing you to read what i post in here anyway.

mean gnome bullies...

looks like Tynelia went back to their old school defensive style attack routine for the semis- except someone forgot to tell them that when they do that they actually have to do the defensive part too not just the "don't score any goals" part ;)

but hey no worries now we get to face...yet another top ten team...coming off its first lost this entire tourney... :eek:

Argh, I'd much rather still be undefeated =\

It's your comeuppance for stabbing me in the back ESF:sniper::sniper::sniper::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::gundge::gundge:

Going in for a bid with Commerce Heights. Despite the fact that I asked you like two weeks ago and you said you couldn't. Punk. I'm sure I'll forgive you in time, as I do like you, but it does tick me off.

It's not because we're trying, honestly, I've been willing you wins.

Cant you will my lot to win. Im losing the will to live!

It's not because we're trying, honestly, I've been willing you wins.

Oh. Well will you please stop? The last thing we need right now are a bunch of Western schismatics willing us anything. By praying for us, you're holding us back, you rigidly monarchical filioque-adding heretics (yeah, you felt [I]that insult, didn't ya).

It's your comeuppance for stabbing me in the back ESF:sniper::sniper::sniper::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::gundge::gundge:

Going in for a bid with Commerce Heights. Despite the fact that I asked you like two weeks ago and you said you couldn't. Punk. I'm sure I'll forgive you in time, as I do like you, but it does tick me off.

With that kind of attitude... good luck ever hosting again. Seriously. Someone told you they couldn't host with you then changed their minds and found someone else. Big deal. Grow up. It's just a game.

I think I have a little right to be upset LE. I'm not super mad, but considering I made my intentions known I think I deserved at least to be contacted first.

Current Vephrall national team assistant manager Rhoetang Dotsmens is interested in a full-time managerial position. He served as interim manager for roughly the second half of WC37 qualifying, compiling a 2-1-3 record in an unsuccessful attempt to salvage the team's qualifying campaign.

Would he be interested in the Nire and Nire manager position?

Also, former manager Lexit Sohot is interested in gaining further international experience. He fashioned a 7-3-11 record before being dumped during the WC38 qualifiers for political reasons.

I think I have a little right to be upset LE. I'm not super mad, but considering I made my intentions known I think I deserved at least to be contacted first.

Why? If he doesn't want to work with you then so be it.

Would he be interested in the Nire and Nire manager position?


Indeed he would. :)

great, then he will succeed to the post following the Cup of Harmony. if you have any background info on him then could you TG that to me to help with RPing etc

Oh. Well will you please stop? The last thing we need right now are a bunch of Western schismatics willing us anything. By praying for us, you're holding us back, you rigidly monarchical filioque-adding heretics (yeah, you felt [I]that insult, didn't ya).

We could sack Constantinople again, if you please. Rather fun the first time, and would give you something to be reaaaallly twatty about... not that you need it, of course. :p

We could sack Constantinople again, if you please. Rather fun the first time, and would give you something to be reaaaallly twatty about... not that you need it, of course. :p

Pah.

The Ottomans managed to sack the seat of the Ecumenical Patriarchate with considerably more panache than your lot did. And they managed to hold on to the place for centuries rather than sneaking out with their devilish tail between their legs a mere 57 years afterwards.

"Better the Sultan's turban than a cardinal's mitre" (as we were fond of saying in the mid-15th century).

It'd help if there was anything worthwhile to stay for, of course.

We could sack Constantinople again, if you please. Rather fun the first time, and would give you something to be reaaaallly twatty about... not that you need it, of course. :p

Oh yes, the good old days of the 4th Crusade ...

Well what a Cup of Harmony St Samuel had!! Margaret's been a right bitch!

I'm baaaaack

If history has shown anything, it's that my team will miss out on any qualification on just a few points.

WC - missed by -2 GD
CoH - missed Semifinal Round by -1 point (and didn't lose a single match!)

Oh well, there's next year! Cheers to some smelly affair in Casari and Novapsolu (unlike many other events, this will have an exit RP that will likely leave Casari a little impaired - with the maestro's permission of course).


I guess I've got to get my people to start manufacturing rubber chickens (or I could import them from Tempalhiyon)...

Since by some miracle I managed to make the play-in game for the CoH, I should ask this for a potential RP. What's the lowest ever rank for a WC or CoH champion?

Since by some miracle I managed to make the play-in game for the CoH, I should ask this for a potential RP. What's the lowest ever rank for a WC or CoH champion?

Pre-KPB Dennisov won WC4 with a rank of 44, and I won WC8 with a rank of 28. Not sure about post-KPB though - Crystilakere might be a good bet.

and I won WC8 with a rank of 28.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED!

If you want to get technical, Crosshill won World Cup 1 while being unranked, but I don't think that's what HSC is looking for. ;)

Just a reminder that the 5th Oxen Cup is still open for sign-ups until 12:01 am EST on Sunday Night/Monday morning. If you'd like to sign up please do so here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13284347#post13284347

ya know i just noticed. unless it happens in the championship match , there hasn;t been a single match in the knockouts that has gotten into extra time. has that ever happened? i don;t recall it happening before, since i started anyway.

Well what a Cup of Harmony St Samuel had!! Margaret's been a right bitch!
Tell me about it!

It's been a pretty bad tournament for the teams expected to do well such as yourself, Daehan, The Archregimancy, myself and D2R all going out.

Tell me about it!

It's been a pretty bad tournament for the teams expected to do well such as yourself, Daehan, The Archregimancy, myself and D2R all going out.

I generally don't like commenting on tournaments I host until after their done, but eh, what the hell. :)

To give a quick insight on the scorination for this tournament: Vephrall's NSFS 2.0.1 was used, with the "max points" setting lowered (from the standard 69 used by Veph, that being the maximum KPB for a team that does undefeated for three consecutive World Cup campaigns) To a number reflecting the most the highest ranked team could receive with the maximum RP bonus. Even with such, a lot of randomness came into play. In spite of it, of the 5 teams advancing, 3 of them increased their odds greatly through RPing, while the other two were damn lucky, even in the face of difficult schedules. The only thing I would have considered doing different, however, would have been to allow the top 8 plus ties into the knockout rounds, though to be honest, I also figured there was a chance that even with the top 4 plus ties, we'd end up with nearly 8 teams, rather than 5.

Anyways, I hope you all at least enjoyed the novelty and excitement of the Swiss-style format. I don't think we've seen so many compelling matchups occur in such a small space of time. Heck, one of the current WC hosts (who shall remain nameless ;) ) Commented that the CoH matchups were better than the World Cup matchups!

Lastly, my commiserations to those who did do everything they could, only to have the luck of the draw fall against them. Margaret is surely a cruel mistress at times; and yet, if you're patient enough, you will eventually get one from her too ;)

I generally don't like commenting on tournaments I host until after their done, but eh, what the hell. :)

To give a quick insight on the scorination for this tournament: Vephrall's NSFS 2.0.1 was used, with the "max points" setting lowered (from the standard 69 used by Veph, that being the maximum KPB for a team that does undefeated for three consecutive World Cup campaigns) To a number reflecting the most the highest ranked team could receive with the maximum RP bonus. Even with such, a lot of randomness came into play. In spite of it, of the 5 teams advancing, 3 of them increased their odds greatly through RPing, while the other two were damn lucky, even in the face of difficult schedules. The only thing I would have considered doing different, however, would have been to allow the top 8 plus ties into the knockout rounds, though to be honest, I also figured there was a chance that even with the top 4 plus ties, we'd end up with nearly 8 teams, rather than 5.

Anyways, I hope you all at least enjoyed the novelty and excitement of the Swiss-style format. I don't think we've seen so many compelling matchups occur in such a small space of time. Heck, one of the current WC hosts (who shall remain nameless ;) ) Commented that the CoH matchups were better than the World Cup matchups!

Lastly, my commiserations to those who did do everything they could, only to have the luck of the draw fall against them. Margaret is surely a cruel mistress at times; and yet, if you're patient enough, you will eventually get one from her too ;)

It's most likely due to the factor that I had an awful tournament, but I didn't enjoy the Swiss-style tournament as much as the regular style. And im not moaning about or being a bad loser, hey that's football, we sucked (Im used to it, being a Tottenham and England supporter).

To give a quick insight on the scorination for this tournament: Vephrall's NSFS 2.0.1 was used, with the "max points" setting lowered (from the standard 69 used by Veph, that being the maximum KPB for a team that does undefeated for three consecutive World Cup campaigns) To a number reflecting the most the highest ranked team could receive with the maximum RP bonus.

Actually, the standard setting I use is the number of KPB points held by the team ranked #1 at the start of the tournament. In this case, that would be 48.74 for WC38 qualifying and 50.93 for WC38 proper.

And in response to Tynelia earlier, yes, this is the first time that I can remember all knockout matches being decided in 90 minutes, and I've been doing this for quite a while...

Pre-KPB Dennisov won WC4 with a rank of 44, and I won WC8 with a rank of 28. Not sure about post-KPB though - Crystilakere might be a good bet.
Crystilakere was 20th in WC19 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7579092&postcount=1). I was 23rd in WC15 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6423294&postcount=1).

WTG Az-cz.. surely your 2 victories over my team helped to propel you to the title.. your welcome :)

Az-cz 5 - 3 Squornshelous
BOO! HISS! BOO! HISS!

Well at least I lost to the champ.

BOO! HISS! BOO! HISS!

Well at least I lost to the champ.

So did I, twice.. so I'm better right???? LOL

I generally don't like commenting on tournaments I host until after their done, but eh, what the hell. :)

To give a quick insight on the scorination for this tournament: Vephrall's NSFS 2.0.1 was used, with the "max points" setting lowered (from the standard 69 used by Veph, that being the maximum KPB for a team that does undefeated for three consecutive World Cup campaigns) To a number reflecting the most the highest ranked team could receive with the maximum RP bonus. Even with such, a lot of randomness came into play. In spite of it, of the 5 teams advancing, 3 of them increased their odds greatly through RPing, while the other two were damn lucky, even in the face of difficult schedules. The only thing I would have considered doing different, however, would have been to allow the top 8 plus ties into the knockout rounds, though to be honest, I also figured there was a chance that even with the top 4 plus ties, we'd end up with nearly 8 teams, rather than 5.

The only constructive suggestion I would make would be to increase the number of first round matches to five or six. Given the novelty of the format - and the relatively small number of nations qualifying for the knock-out stage - I think this would have added to the opportunities for RP interaction.

Otherwise, it was an interesting enough format, and certainly worth a try.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED!

If you want to get technical, Crosshill won World Cup 1 while being unranked, but I don't think that's what HSC is looking for. ;)

And speaking as your WC 2 host (albeit with my other nation), there weren't any rankings in place for the second tournament either, so Al Quds also won the World Cup while unranked.

Last time I tried to raise the WC2 result in a WC discussion thread, we lost the entire thread - let's see what happens this time...

Are we still all here?

The only constructive suggestion I would make would be to increase the number of first round matches to five or six. Given the novelty of the format - and the relatively small number of nations qualifying for the knock-out stage - I think this would have added to the opportunities for RP interaction.

Otherwise, it was an interesting enough format, and certainly worth a try.

I'd agree and say and future efforts in the format would include a greater number of matchdays, however in this case I would have to say a slightly greater priority was placed on finishing before the family of Winter Holidays take us all away from our computers.

AARRGHH!!! I was 1 goal away from being World Champ...

(sort of)

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WC39 and BoF26 Host Bids

With the end of WC38 and the end of my reign as president. We need this stuff in so the vote for presidency can be in... In 3 days I will start the Presidential voting process.

Liverpool England and Zwangzug are pleased to announce a hosting bid for the Baptism of Fire 26. Liverpool England, are, however, not signing up for the World Cup and thus will not take part in the BoF, just to make things clear for a certain President who likes to assume things....

Core bid details:
• NationStates FootySim will be used
• 16, 24 or 32 teams - can be adjusted down if/as needed
• Tiebreak in group rounds: Points-head to head-goal difference-goals scored
• All teams will start on 0.00 KPB points. RP bonus will be added to it, based on quantity and quality, up to a maximum of 1.20 points per RP and 2.50 per matchday (to avoid Spaaming)

I can't in good conscience agree with having the WC Presidency vote over the Winter Holiday Period. There's just absolutely no reason why it can't take place during the next World Cup, after the holidays when all who care to vote are around their computers once again.

I can't in good conscience agree with having the WC Presidency vote over the Winter Holiday Period. There's just absolutely no reason why it can't take place during the next World Cup, after the holidays when all who care to vote are around their computers once again.

I second this.

Also, I hereby withdraw my explorations into hosting the next BoF unless someone really wants to host and needs a cohost or a newbie (to hosting) or something.

I can't in good conscience agree with having the WC Presidency vote over the Winter Holiday Period. There's just absolutely no reason why it can't take place during the next World Cup, after the holidays when all who care to vote are around their computers once again.

Well, are we going to put the whole of the World Cup on haitus until sometime in January?

We've got WC host vote, potential for a BoF host vote as well as the presidential vote.

Are we generally in favour of holding off on the WCC-related stuff until perhaps 5th of Jan?

Seeing the answers for my question about the lowest rank of WC and CoH questions, maybe I should have just specified the CoH, because those champions will be the ones with a lower rank.

Anybody have an idea what the lowest rank to win the CoH is?

Sometime in January? No. Starting voting for the WC/BoF the 26th? Sure, then if it goes a week, it'll make it to the 2nd. Hold the Presidential Nominations during Qualifying, with the final vote at the same time as the CoH vote. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

The fact remains that while not all are, a significant quantity of the people on Nationstates are of an age where they are being educated, and that means we're either 1) in finals, or 2) already home on break, like, for example, Bedi (or Veph), who I believe isn't back until '08. In this case, the next WC would start on time with the spring semester- when most people are bored and looking for stuff to do, and we can all RP and be happy.

Seeing the answers for my question about the lowest rank of WC and CoH questions, maybe I should have just specified the CoH, because those champions will be the ones with a lower rank.

Anybody have an idea what the lowest rank to win the CoH is?

I can't say that I know, though it's probably pretty low. The CoH tends to be a more RP-centric tournament, not to mention being just as unpredictable. In other words, an RPing debutant nation has a better shot at going somewhere in the CoH.

Sometime in January? No. Starting voting for the WC/BoF the 26th? Sure, then if it goes a week, it'll make it to the 2nd. Hold the Presidential Nominations during Qualifying, with the final vote at the same time as the CoH vote. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

The fact remains that while not all are, a significant quantity of the people on Nationstates are of an age where they are being educated, and that means we're either 1) in finals, or 2) already home on break, like, for example, Bedi (or Veph), who I believe isn't back until '08. In this case, the next WC would start on time with the spring semester- when most people are bored and looking for stuff to do, and we can all RP and be happy.

For me the Christmas - New Years week is family time, people are also going to be busy with family stuff, or at least with general downtime. I feel uneasy about using that particular week.

Start of January, the first few days would be fine but I'm not keen on starting again any time in December

Last time I tried to raise the WC2 result in a WC discussion thread, we lost the entire thread - let's see what happens this time...

Are we still all here?

So far it is.

I can't say that I know, though it's probably pretty low. The CoH tends to be a more RP-centric tournament, not to mention being just as unpredictable. In other words, an RPing debutant nation has a better shot at going somewhere in the CoH.


I'd still have to suspect that no nation ranked as low as I am (and maybe even 60th ranked Scotchpinestan) has ever won the whole thing. I'm pretty sure you were aware when you posted that I participated in the pre-WC 38 BoF.

The sad thing is, I figure the best I'll probably be ranked even if I win the whole CoH is about 70th. Though, I don't really understand the KPB ranking system, so I may be totally wrong.

People are busy now too. Hence, we just take a break, enjoy the fruits of the real world, and come back when we have nothing better to do. If NS isn't here when we get back, I owe you a coke. :p

Liverpool England and Zwangzug are pleased to announce a hosting bid for the Baptism of Fire 26. Liverpool England, are, however, not signing up for the World Cup and thus will not take part in the BoF, just to make things clear for a certain President who likes to assume things....

Core bid details:
• NationStates FootySim will be used
• 16, 24 or 32 teams - can be adjusted down if/as needed
• Tiebreak in group rounds: Points-head to head-goal difference-goals scored
• All teams will start on 0.00 KPB points. RP bonus will be added to it, based on quantity and quality, up to a maximum of 1.20 points per RP and 2.50 per matchday (to avoid Spaaming)

I noticed thatyou hadn't yet signed up but that wouldn't stop you from signing up later, but anyway. Thank you for clearing that up for everyone.

People are busy now too. Hence, we just take a break, enjoy the fruits of the real world, and come back when we have nothing better to do. If NS isn't here when we get back, I owe you a coke. :p

Well, If NS isn't here when we get back we'll have bigger problems then you mailing me a coke :p

But, yes, at the moment I'm just putting things out there for comment and suggestions. I have by no means finally made up my mind.

Hehe, would we? Think about the improvement to our productivity! :p

I'd agree and say and future efforts in the format would include a greater number of matchdays, however in this case I would have to say a slightly greater priority was placed on finishing before the family of Winter Holidays take us all away from our computers.

Hmmm. While I appreciate the sentiment, I disagree slightly only in that I would have been happy to see the tournament run another few days. Speaking personally, the only days I'm entirely out of commission computer-wise are the 24th-26th - though I concede that I may not be typical here. Ironically enough, the 8th through 13th of January will be far worse for me as I'm travelling to New Mexico for a conference.

And aren't we already in Hannukah anyway?

That said, from the perspective of holding votes, I do agree that we should probably hold off a little bit given the potential for different people having very different disruptions to their schedules and access for the next couple of weeks.

As it turns out for me, the best time to do stuff is over winter vacation. But I still agree with Cas. I remember what it was like to be a uni student, which is what it seems most of the players are and can see how the winter holidays are difficult for most.

As it turns out for me, the best time to do stuff is over winter vacation. But I still agree with Cas. I remember what it was like to be a uni student, which is what it seems most of the players are and can see how the winter holidays are difficult for most.

Hemispherist!

What about us south of the Equator, with our nice warm SUMMER Christmas holidays?!

Hah?!

Hemispherist!

What about us south of the Equator, with our nice warm SUMMER Christmas holidays?!

Hah?!

Oh yes, summer - very high UV levels, sunburn, over 30C on average, FUN :p

It is fun!

The Summer holidays here in Brazil represent the time of the year to travel to the beach! The sun, the sea, the women...

And that's what I'll do (already dreaming with the beaches of Florianópolis or another coastal city of the Brazilian South).

To this reporter’s knowledge, no team has ever participated in the Baptism of Fire and then proceeded to win the next Cup of Harmony tournament.Someone did as recently as WC33, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't the first time.

They were, however, ranked a whopping 61st.

And to whoever it may concern, I'll be out of town for several days early in January, so I couldn't start the BoF until the seventh or so anyhow.

It is fun!

The Summer holidays here in Brazil represent the time of the year to travel to the beach! The sun, the sea, the women...

And that's what I'll do (already dreaming with the beaches of Florianópolis or another coastal city of the Brazilian South).

*sigh*

You get women in bikinis and I get socks that'll only go missing within a month...

Aye, but the tradeoff is you have to live in Brazil.

But there are Brazilian women in bikinis.

And here girls want to stay very, very close to you to stay warm. :p

Thank god i live in Florida.. that way I also get girls in bikinis and missing socks.


also Hopeless SC, you were soooo close! WTG on your SF appearance in the COH.

Thank god i live in Florida.. that way I also get girls in bikinis and missing socks.


also Hopeless SC, you were soooo close! WTG on your SF appearance in the COH.

Hopeless SC might need to change the name there! Not-so-Hopeless SC.

also Hopeless SC, you were soooo close! WTG on your SF appearance in the COH.

Hopeless SC might need to change the name there! Not-so-Hopeless SC.


Thanks guys. LOL on the name change. I'm still going to be pretty hopeless in the next couple WC's baring some miracle like the one that took place to get me this deep into the CoH. Congrats to Lovisa! Good luck in the final.

Either way the final turns out, I lost to the champ, as my two losses were to the teams meeting in the final.

I'm still going to be pretty hopeless in the next couple WC's baring some miracle like the one that took place to get me this deep into the CoH.

Not really. If you do finish somewhere in the upper 70's or so in the next KPB rankings, then you have about a 25%-40% better chance of qualifing. Odds are though you'll just miss out, but that will bump you up to the mid-50's or so and if you do as well in the next CoH, then you're in the 40's and then you'll be about 50-50 to get into the Cup.

For a team that has only been in 3 tourneys you've done rather well, which is the exception rather than the rule. You might qualify in your 3rd attempt, ratherrthan your 5th or higher.

Actually, many moons ago, my original nation almost pulled off the unthinkable by qualifying for the WC from about 110th. Our offense sputtered out in the 2nd half of qualifying after holding a qualifying position at the halfway point.

With my defensive style of play, I probably won't get as close to qualifying as you expect, and will be hard pressed to match the success I had in this CoH. Actually, the reason I may have been as successful as I was in the CoH is that there didn't seem to be style modifiers in play.

Not really. If you do finish somewhere in the upper 70's or so in the next KPB rankings, then you have about a 25%-40% better chance of qualifing. Odds are though you'll just miss out, but that will bump you up to the mid-50's or so and if you do as well in the next CoH, then you're in the 40's and then you'll be about 50-50 to get into the Cup.

For a team that has only been in 3 tourneys you've done rather well, which is the exception rather than the rule. You might qualify in your 3rd attempt, ratherrthan your 5th or higher.

Took me 4 to qualify.

I made it on my third attempt courtesy of hosting. :p

My former nation (Kaze Progressa) made it on their third attempt 'naturally', that was as fourth seeds in a group where three qualified.

I would generally say newcomers should target third-time qualification, but don't be surprised if it takes a while longer.

Personally I qualifying on the third attempt is good for newbs and aim to qualify on the fourth. Myself and Daehan both just missed out on our third attempts. Daehan of course did win the BoF for WC36 which would give him a small bonus, but with decent RPing I'd say it's quite achievable to qualify on a third attempt.

... with decent RPing I'd say it's quite achievable to qualify on a third attempt.

Agreed, as that's what I managed.

Hopefully I'll get sixth time lucky.

I qualified first time, from 147th in the world (a few newbs got in, the scorinator rewarded RP more as there were only 2 of us really RPing in the group), then missed something like the next four.

I qualified in my first attempt (as BoF runner-ups and ranked 104th), then qualified for other 2 WCs and failed to qualify in my fourth qualifiers, returning to qualify in the next cup as a host.

Hopefully I'll get sixth time lucky.

I started in WC11, qualified for 1st time in 17! 6 bloody failed attempts.

As Legalese, I had a series of close calls and bad qualifying runs. it wasn't until my fifth cup (22) that I qualified for the Finals, though even that was due to replacing South Osettia as tri-host. In Legalese's short return for WCs 27-29, I did not make the finals field.

My first qualification through group play was this past cup, Novapsolu's third, though I'd say that gaining the automatic spot due to hosting 37 helped in that.

I qualified in my first attempt (as BoF runner-ups and ranked 104th), then qualified for other 2 WCs and failed to qualify in my fourth qualifiers, returning to qualify in the next cup as a host.

I remember that! :)

I qualified for my twentieth cup as a host after failing to qualify the previous time.

Oh, yes, I may have qualified on sixteen of my first eighteen attempts, but that’s irrelevant, isn’t it? :p

I qualified for the finals in my fourth cup WC33 (which I hosted). I qualified for the championship in my eighth cup and qualified for a consecutive championship in my ninth cup. :D:D:D:D

I qualified on my second cup, thank you all. In fact, until this cycle/whatever, the worst I had ever done was second in the Cup of Harmony in my first time around.

And I won the Cup of Harmony last cup starting from 0, without the benefit of a BoF, so ha on that. :p

A note for those in the 5th Oxen Cup, the reason why the schedule and the format is the way it is, is that the next BOF probably won't start until after New Year's and besides the U-21 and the Han Cups there isn't much else going on, so enjoy this holiday gift for the footy fans.

I think Ariddia and myself can claim the earliest-ever WC finals participation as unranked participants (among active nations) making the finals in both our first two attempts, in both WCs 1 & 2.

Pedants will no doubt point out that A) there was no ranking system in the first two WCs, B) that between us we hosted both of the first two world cups, and that C) as there were no qualifiers, all 32 entrants automatically qualified.

I think Ariddia and myself can claim the earliest-ever WC finals participation as unranked participants (among active nations) making the finals in both our first two attempts, in both WCs 1 & 2.

Pedants will no doubt point out that A) there was no ranking system in the first two WCs, B) that between us we hosted both of the first two world cups, and that C) as there were no qualifiers, all 32 entrants automatically qualified.

As far as actual qualifying attempts go, I believe Squornshelous has the earliest succesful qualification by an unranked team among active nations, occurring in World Cup 5.

Ok, I think the brag train is over...shame I took part. -_-

Okay...with the WC and CoH having now wrapped up, how soon will we see the new rankings?

Okay...with the WC and CoH having now wrapped up, how soon will we see the new rankings?

Soon I Hope, as I sorta need them for the Oxen Cup (though i could get by on the post-qualifer KPB rankings)


(BTW 2000th NEW Post in this thread!!!!)

great, get to see how far i have fallen after a disastrous Cup of Harmony