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DAMN STRAIGHT! Cost me a chance to advance in the 1st round of WORLD CUP 37!. I could have ended my (and to a lesser extent, all of ya'lls) misery if it werent for them.

just a point: we are now just 71 posts away from reaching half of the original WCDT.

Any guesses as to when we will reach post #11143? (we know some how either myself, Daehanjeiguk, Jeruselem or Sel appa will be the one who posts it.)

It's taken us LESS than a year to get this far, while the old WCDT was about 3 1/2 years old or so.

My Guess is December 2nd, 2009.

No, the answer is December 3rd, 2009 :D

No, the answer is December 3rd, 2009 :D

The answer is 42.

DAMN STRAIGHT! Cost me a chance to advance in the 1st round of WORLD CUP 37!. I could have ended my (and to a lesser extent, all of ya'lls) misery if it werent for them.

just a point: we are now just 71 posts away from reaching half of the original WCDT.

Any guesses as to when we will reach post #11143? (we know some how either myself, Daehanjeiguk, Jeruselem or Sel appa will be the one who posts it.)

It's taken us LESS than a year to get this far, while the old WCDT was about 3 1/2 years old or so.

My Guess is December 2nd, 2009.

Or post 11143 could be one of those damn ads that just appear.

The answer is 42.

No, if the answer is a number it's 1093. Or 984 if 1093 isn't available.

I have received a TG from a nation and after checking up of my own stuff.

I have found that they had signed up but weren't included in the BoF list for some reason.

As such I am expanding the Baptism of Fire back up to 20 teams.

The Draw will be posted In approximately 6/7 hours.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Qazox actually has something important to contribute to the NWCDT!

Each of you will have to edit it yourselves to get your player(s), etc. right, but finally the WORLD CUP HALL of FAME has a wikipage open for editing again!

Located here: http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/World_Cup_Hall_of_Fame

You all are welcome to edit it as you see fit.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Qazox actually has something important to contribute to the NWCDT!

Each of you will have to edit it yourselves to get your player(s), etc. right, but finally the WORLD CUP HALL of FAME has a wikipage open for editing again!

Located here: http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/World_Cup_Hall_of_Fame

You all are welcome to edit it as you see fit.

Entering, Qualifying and Winning World Cups is the easy part.... deciding who of my players should now go in the Hall of Fame is difficult!

Edit: Have just worked out I need to make three choices for a total of eleven players... Does anyone else have the possibility of an entire team in the HoF?

Does anyone else have the possibility of an entire team in the HoF?

I haven't crunched the numbers yet, but I'm willing to bet "yes". :p

EDIT: Upon doing the calculations, Bedistan would have fourteen. So there.

EDIT: Upon doing the calculations, Bedistan would have fourteen. So there.

If I make it to WC48 and win a fourth title by then, I'll get to that mark, otherwise it's WCs in the fifties... Sqourn probably has a similarly high number to Bedistan, too. Not to mention CH.

I think i'm allowed 4 teams now, but want a second opinion

15 World Cups competed in- (2 spots)
9 time-World Cup qualifiers- (2 spots)
So I get 4 in right? or does my Quarterfinal run get me an extra spot?

So I get 4 in right? or does my Quarterfinal run get me an extra spot?

Championship give you an extra spot - celebrating a Quarter-Final appearance as much as you would a World Cup win doesn't count.

Open letter to the World Cup Committee

Dear World Football Governing Body

It has come to our attention that Yafalonia and Bazor 2 have broken their manifesto pledge, for in it they said that there would be 5 groups for 20 teams and yet they have broken from this and gone for only 4 groups.

We hereby propose that this matter is looked into with the swiftest urgency and either their original plan of 5 groups is upheld, or they are automatically brought in to the presidency where their pledge breaking skills can be best used.

Yours,

Land de Wood Sports Editor

Open letter to the World Cup Committee

Dear World Football Governing Body....

This is still not the place for IC comments, lol, but as it's essentially a re-post of what you've put in the BoF thread, we can gloss over that.

The BoF is always a tricky one one to set up, as the number of teams is often set by how much time the hosts are willing to leave before they can get a manageable number of entries. 5 groups for 20 teams makes absolutely no sense as you can't easily get the right number of knockout teams (16, 8, 4, etc).

4 groups of 5 makes much more sense, as the top two (or top four, even) can go to the Quarter-Finals (or Second Round). Pledge-breaking in this regard is nothing to worry about.

Sorry will switch to ooc mode:

Whilst I would agree that 5 groups of 20 teams does produce a strange number of teams, the bid proposed:
5 groups for 20/25 - top 3 teams progress, round robin for last place for 4th placed teams

The round robin solving the problem.

I'm not actually that worried about the pledge-breaking hence my tongue in cheek comment that they be given the presidency, but I'm sure a real sports editor would be so I thought I'ld roleplay to that effect, despite the fact we are not actually role playing in this thread, but hey nevermind.

Whilst I would agree that 5 groups of 20 teams does produce a strange number of teams, the bid proposed:
5 groups for 20/25 - top 3 teams progress, round robin for last place for 4th placed teams

Did it indeed? Cheeky bastards...

*Goes off to slap Baza or Yafa, whoever's on IRC first*

Did it indeed? Cheeky bastards...

*Goes off to slap Baza or Yafa, whoever's on IRC first*

Pledge-breaking, Beijing style :tongue:

i have a question?

Am I eligible for the World Cup Hall of Fame, yet or no? I think i've been in 7 qualifiers. (or maybe its 6.) WHich world Cup was the BoF24 linked to?

This will be your 5th (Bof 29 now)

This will be your 5th (Bof 29 now)

Wouldn't that make it his sixth, then? (24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)

Wouldn't that make it his sixth, then? (24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)

In terms of WCQ, it's his 5th. Afterwards the Qualifiers it will be his 6th

Veph is right. WC42Q will be his sixth qualifying tournament.

yes, it WILL BE his sixth, but it hasn't even started yet. So at the moment, he's got 5

Well if Prux qualifies for WC42, then the point is moot, as he'd earn a spot for qualifing for the World Cup, right? or am I reading the rule wrong?

for those who might care, the Tour de Qazox is back: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13895381&posted=1#post13895381

Well if Prux qualifies for WC42, then the point is moot, as he'd earn a spot for qualifing for the World Cup, right? or am I reading the rule wrong?

For every seven times you have attempted to Qualify for the World Cup, you gain a spot.

For every four times you appear in the World Cup proper (the 32-team Finals), you gain a spot.

Too bad, I lost my first match. :eek::eek2:. Hopefully I'll get some points from my next match. :)

Too bad, I lost my first match. :eek::eek2:. Hopefully I'll get some points from my next match. :)

That's the spirit!

yes after the next qualifying attempt Prux me and you will gain spots. now i need to qualify for the cup 3 more times and win a few championships. hmmm

So did Veph ever put out the post 41/pre 42 rankings?

So did Veph ever put out the post 41/pre 42 rankings?

No, I was planning to wait until the conclusion of the BoF. Then again, now that I think about it, the BoF is probably going to end sometime next week when I'll be without internet access. Hmm.

Watch this space over the next couple hours.

EDIT: Here we go. All credit for these updated rankings goes to Cafundéu, who actually put these together a few days ago.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.ods)
Excel (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.pdf)

Too bad, I lost my first match. :eek::eek2:. Hopefully I'll get some points from my next match. :)

Don't panic :)
Jeruselem lost all but one game in it's first World Cup (WC11).
You have win some time.

Don't panic :)
Jeruselem lost all but one game in it's first World Cup (WC11).
You have win some time.

Thanks for the advice. I heard this old saying.
"Whenever there is a winner, there is a loser." :D

How many more times to I have to win before I qualify for the World Cup?

Thanks for the advice. I heard this old saying.
"Whenever there is a winner, there is a loser." :D

How many more times to I have to win before I qualify for the World Cup?

Well ... qualification, that's a lot harder! Took Jeruselem - 7 attempts. Some got lucky and got in a lot faster.

On average i'm guessing It takes about 4 World Cup qualifers to qualify for the World Cup for the 1st time. Some take longer, and a very select few have qualified on the 1st attempt.

5 myself but then aghain oikioda nocked the spot just out of reach, anyways i woulda had to beat Satiaville

35th jeese Kosovoe only 64th. Ah not even top 32 ugh

yeah 700.(sorry)

Use the damn edit button please.

This will be a very hard first season for Greal.

No, I was planning to wait until the conclusion of the BoF. Then again, now that I think about it, the BoF is probably going to end sometime next week when I'll be without internet access. Hmm.

Watch this space over the next couple hours.

EDIT: Here we go. All credit for these updated rankings goes to Cafundéu, who actually put these together a few days ago.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.ods)
Excel (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.pdf)

Asking nicely makes it happen. Sweet! Also, thanks.

35th jeese Kosovoe only 64th. Ah not even top 32 ugh

Lol, according to Vephrall and FIFA rankings

35. Taesean = Serbia.
56. Arroza = Macedonia.
64. Kosovoe is the Burkina Faso of international soccer.

FIFA rankings:

Qazox= Cameroon

Elo Rankings:

Qazox= Russia

Also, does anybody wanna try to determine an UNOFFCIAL WORLD CHAMPIONS list for NS?

(for those who may not be familar with an Unoffical World Champion, if team A is the current Unoffical World Champion, and team R beats them, then team R is the unoffical world champion, until such a time Team R loses, than THAT team becomes the UWC, and so on and so forth. For more info about the RL UWC see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_World_Champions_%28soccer%29

For simplicity's sake, start with the 1st NSWC champion: Crosshill

OR..... We could just start anew with the current champions: Starblaydia.

Only World Cup Qualifiers, World Cup matches and any other MAJOR tournements (ie: AOCAF Cup, any Olympics, the Cup of Harmony, and the Baptism of Fire should count) and possibly the Draggonnii Inviyattii, Oxen Cup and Oriental Football Cup tourneys can count as well.

On average i'm guessing It takes about 4 World Cup qualifers to qualify for the World Cup for the 1st time. Some take longer, and a very select few have qualified on the 1st attempt.

I hope so, this one coming up will be my fourth attempt.

As for the rankings I am now up to 40th

I enjoyed looking at my scores for the WC41 qualifying scores a grand total of 6.4 compare that to the previous WC where I only got 1.6

Same goes for my COH last COH a score of 2.166667 before that 9/16

Nice increase, however, a question.

when calculating these scores it only takes the past three Cups into consideration correct?

Which would mean that my BoF26 score when calculating the after WC42 qualifiers will be dropped as too my WC39 and COH31 scores?

FIFA Rankings
Blouman Empire= Australia
Which is just fine by me considering I am one, but I hope that doesn't mean that after the first time I qualify where I don't win a game I wont qualify again for 32 years or 8 cups

(since the 2nd World Cup thread has been lost in the sands of time, forget it)

Ooooo

France(ELO)/Czech Repubic(FIFA)

It's pretty discouraging to see my team make no movement. After our BoF27 points get downgraded after the current BoF is concluded, we'll probably be 51st again. It's not a terrible surprise as we underachieved in WC41 quals, but discouraging nonetheless, and I could see where a less motivated person would probably throw in the towel here. This seems like the toughest hurdle to clear. From 55 to 40.

Still no BoF27 team has qualified for the World Cup, and Septentrionia is someone I really can't count anymore as one of us ,as they will get in, and enjoy the modifier with their co-hosting. Not a complaint about that, just that I'm not really going to include them in class of BoF27 comparisons anymore. With the rankings of the BoF27 teams now, it'll probably be another 0-fer in WC42.

It should be tough though, that's something I understand, I just don't how many others truly will that get "close but not close enough" struggle to the top and that it is a marathon to get there. It's why for me, the Di Bradini Cup is my World Cup. Seriously!

By FIFA's rankings, I'll never take the Falklands.

By Eloratings, it's Starblaydia, Starblaydia Über Alles.

Both comparisons I'm very happy with, though it's also quite weird for an Englishman to be happy to have his team compared to their two greatest international rivals.

Dangit, Star, you used my "(country name not Germany) uber alles" (with inserted umlaut) line that I frequently use after a Grand Prix! Oh well.

FIFA - Israel Jeru, if you want to swap ranks with me, I'd be ok with that

ELO - Egypt.

Why the Electric Light Orchestra (Mr. Blue Sky ftw (come on the Sky Blues - no, not Kry)) do rankings though I'll never know..

Norway.

w00t.

FIFA rankings = a big pile of turd.

And considering that FIFA/Elo rankings have about double the number of teams that the KPB rankings have, it's a bit hard to get a direct comparison by going "I'm number one in KPB so I'm Spain in FIFA". Add in the fact that we're not divided into continents/confederations for our World Cup as well and that makes the comparisons difficult to get correct.

Having said all that Nigeria are 33rd in the Elo rankings and in the turd rankings I'm equal to Northern Ireland. Which not only proves my above point but also proves the FIFA rankings suck arse.

15th.

FIFA: England
Elo: Turkey

FIFA: England

Unlucky, someone has to be there.

Hmmm. FIFA:Egypt/Elo:Switzerland

Blaaaaugh.

(since the 2nd World Cup thread has been lost in the sands of time, forget it)

Aha, but the 2nd World Cup host is still with us...

As said host, I can state that I have it on good authority that Spaam has the WC2 results - or at least most of them - on file. Some of them were in fact published by Spaam in the thread for a CoH in which the Holy Empire participated somewhere after WC25. Can't remember which one, though.

If Spaam can be tracked down, he might well be able to help restore the WC2 results.

FIFA - USA
ELO - Ghana

WTF?

Still no BoF27 team has qualified for the World Cup, and Septentrionia is someone I really can't count anymore as one of us ,as they will get in, and enjoy the modifier with their co-hosting. Not a complaint about that, just that I'm not really going to include them in class of BoF27 comparisons anymore. With the rankings of the BoF27 teams now, it'll probably be another 0-fer in WC42.


well for what's its worth until this past Cup, Tynelia (me) was the only team from the WC27 starting class (i forget the BoF- 13ish?)to ever actually make the WC proper. granted most of the class vanished for a couple cups before reappearing as the cups went on but Qazox finally joined us this time around.

I'm either Finland or South Korea?

GUESS WHICH ONE I'M PICKING.

Russia or Romania.

Perhaps I should become Rafor 2. Hurr hurr.

I'm either Finland or South Korea?

GUESS WHICH ONE I'M PICKING.
I think they're both quite cool footballing nations to be compared to, but then that just may be me.

Also, does anybody wanna try to determine an UNOFFCIAL WORLD CHAMPIONS list for NS?

(for those who may not be familar with an Unoffical World Champion, if team A is the current Unoffical World Champion, and team R beats them, then team R is the unoffical world champion, until such a time Team R loses, than THAT team becomes the UWC, and so on and so forth. For more info about the RL UWC see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_World_Champions_%28soccer%29

For simplicity's sake, start with the 1st NSWC champion: Crosshill

OR..... We could just start anew with the current champions: Starblaydia.

Only World Cup Qualifiers, World Cup matches and any other MAJOR tournements (ie: AOCAF Cup, any Olympics, the Cup of Harmony, and the Baptism of Fire should count) and possibly the Draggonnii Inviyattii, Oxen Cup and Oriental Football Cup tourneys can count as well.
I did this once (using only WCQ and WC results). It had the problem of two major gaps—Brazillico took the title in WC6 and didn’t reappear until WC11, and Dead Man did the same from WC11 to WC14. And as of WC33Q MD11, the holder was…Qazox. :p

well for what's its worth until this past Cup, Tynelia (me) was the only team from the WC27 starting class (i forget the BoF- 13ish?)to ever actually make the WC proper. granted most of the class vanished for a couple cups before reappearing as the cups went on but Qazox finally joined us this time around.

TYNELIA what the heck are you talking about?

I made the WC as far back as World Cup 31, (you didn't make it until WC32 or 33); it just took me another 10 cups to get past the 2nd round, which is what i believe you meant to say.

As for NM's last post: WOOOOt!!!! I was an UONSWC! (UnOffical NationStates World Champion)

Shouldn't I have gotten that after the 1st time I beat Star instead of the 2nd time?

As for NM's last post: WOOOOt!!!! I was an UONSWC! (UnOffical NationStates World Champion)

Shouldn't I have gotten that after the 1st time I beat Star instead of the 2nd time?

You didn't play me during WC33. On MD11 there I was losing 2-0 in Liverpool England.

26th.

According to FIFA, I'm either Sweden or Nigeria.
According to ELO, I'm Cameroon.
(According to KPB, I'm West Starblaydia. Shh...)

whats ELO

whats ELO
Eloratings.net (www.eloratings.net)

The World Football Elo Ratings are based on the Elo rating system, developed by Dr. Arpad Elo. This system is used by FIDE, the international chess federation, to rate chess players. In 1997 Bob Runyan adapted the Elo rating system to international football and posted the results on the Internet. He was also the first maintainer of the World Football Elo Ratings web site. The system was adapted to football by adding a weighting for the kind of match, an adjustment for the home team advantage, and an adjustment for goal difference in the match result.

These ratings take into account all international "A" matches for which results could be found. Ratings tend to converge on a team's true strength relative to its competitors after about 30 matches. Ratings for teams with fewer than 30 matches should be considered provisional. Match data are primarily from International Football 1872 - Present web site maintained by Raoul S. da Silva Curiel.

so im Serbia FI, and Ukraine EL

FIFA rankings = a big pile of turd.

And considering that FIFA/Elo rankings have about double the number of teams that the KPB rankings have, it's a bit hard to get a direct comparison by going "I'm number one in KPB so I'm Spain in FIFA". Add in the fact that we're not divided into continents/confederations for our World Cup as well and that makes the comparisons difficult to get correct.

Having said all that Nigeria are 33rd in the Elo rankings and in the turd rankings I'm equal to Northern Ireland. Which not only proves my above point but also proves the FIFA rankings suck arse.

FAIL. I refuse to believe in a poll where the United States is ranked 19th in the world, even if it does mae me a cooler country like Belgium.

Newmanistan: That's depressing that 55th to 40th is the dead zone, especially when I'm 56th. So in one cycle I went from bottom to semi-respectability, and now I'm destined to float...great.

Some consolation to those wondering over their fortunes:

I hovered at 40ish for WC37 and WC38, before qualifying on the last day for WC39, going on to make a Second Round appearance (the only one to date). It can be a long run, but the key to success is patience and a closet full of randomness.

Jeruselem

FIFA = Ghana (20)
ELO = USA(19), Egypt (21) or Paraguay (19) - I pick Egypt

Jeru FC

FIFA = Poland (WTF!, waits for Germans to invade)
ELO = Israel (32) YAY!

You didn't play me during WC33. On MD11 there I was losing 2-0 in Liverpool England.

You are quite correct. I played Cuation, then Geisenfried took it away from me on the 3rd match of World Cup 33 itself, who then lost it to Bettia in the Qtrs, who then lost it to Quakmybush on MD3 of the WC34 qualifiers, who then lost it to ESF, if we are counting friendlies; or if not counting friendlies, Quak lost it to Northern Caesarea of all people, who then lost it back to Bettia....etc. Boy that is a strange trip:

??-->Cuation-->Qazox-->Geisenfried-->Bettia-->Quakmybush-->ESF or Northern Caesarea--> Bettia-->??

Just to point out the... ahem... FAILings of our BoF hosts again, how come Icy Cold Death Touch won a play off for second in their group, yet are in the group with all the third place teams? And vice versa for the other team they played who I can't remember the name of after about 20 seconds.

I'm just confused as to how Round 1 has 20 teams, Round 2 still has 20 teams, and Round 3 will have 16 teams. Wouldn't it be easier to just have a round-robin group for the five last-placed finishers to top off the 16 and take it from there? Any concerns about RP will probably be negated by the fact that last-placed teams in the BoF tend not to RP anyway.

Liventia, that is how I understood the bid to be, that only the bottom placed teams would have a round-robin group to decide the 16th placed team in the 2nd round. (the round robin being a repechage round) But I guess they want us to play lots of football and prove ourselves once again. Oh well more teams for my Woodpeckers to beat.

We made it all groups because otherwise it would give Group D teams an unfair advantage an extra 4 matches and 5 days to RP. It boosts RPing teams in the Ro16 over non-rping teams (which is the whole point of the BoF).

And even though perhaps they won't RP that's not the point, they have been given a chance to RP and it's only fair that everyone else gets the same chance.

TYNELIA what the heck are you talking about?

I made the WC as far back as World Cup 31, (you didn't make it until WC32 or 33); it just took me another 10 cups to get past the 2nd round, which is what i believe you meant to say.

As for NM's last post: WOOOOt!!!! I was an UONSWC! (UnOffical NationStates World Champion)

Shouldn't I have gotten that after the 1st time I beat Star instead of the 2nd time?

yeah meant knockouts- relax.
too spoiled now, don;t even count qualifying anymore :)

Hi!

The purpose of this post is to a) answer questions relating to Group Stage 2, b) explain the rationale behind Group Stage 2, and c) add in some other information about Baptism of Fire 29.

Okay, when we first came up with this idea, I was a bit confused as to what it was - as such, I'm going to explain it a bit. Since Group Stage 1 had five groups of four, if the top three teams in each group advanced to the knockouts, there would be only fifteen teams in a round that should have sixteen. Thus, a round-robin tournament for last-place teams is required. This means that if you finished in first, second, or third place in your Group Stage 1 group (if you are in GS2's Group A, B, or C), you have already advanced to the next round! For you, all Group Stage 2 does is determine who you will play in the next round (like any other tournament, since your GS2 group is GS1 group winners, you cannot play other First Round Group Winners in the Round of Sixteen, so this format functions just like another tournament). So, therefore, unless you are in GS2's Group D, you can breathe easy.

For Group Stage 2 group D, this is a round-robin tournament designed so that the winner of Group D will advance to the next round. This essentially means that, even if you came in last place in your Group Stage 1 group, you still have a second shot at surviving! If you're not in Group D, the next five matchdays are basically meaningless for you.

Now for the tricky part - why we did this:
a) The only way to fill out the sixteen teams for the Round of Sixteen was to have a round-robin tournament for the last-placed teams. We saw no harm in letting the other teams have their own tournaments.
b) In terms of time, had we only had a round-robin tournament for the last-placed teams (without anything else, I mean), we would have still had to have five extra matchdays (so that they would get the chance to RP, if they wished. It's fairly obvious why time to RP is important, as it is the basis of any tournament) to deal with. Therefore, adding in round-robins for the other placed teams doesn't add time to our schedule that we would not have already been using.
c) If we only had a round-robin tournament for the last-placed teams, the winner of that tournament would have had four extra games that the other Round of Sixteen teams would not have had. That's not really fair ICly, and it provides time to RP that everyone else would not have had (so it's not fair OOCly). Letting everyone have a round-robin tournament eliminates both of those.
d) It's more football, more time to RP, and more fun, which are the most important things in any tournament.

I hope that made sense - if you have any questions/comments/concerns, feel free to ask.

A few more important things:
1) We Hate Football - thanks for the notification, the problem has been fixed.
2) I (Yafor 2) am going to take over the scorination for Group Stage 2, so the time of scorination will be moved back a couple of hours - so the next matchday will be delayed a slight bit. Just a heads-up.

more matches = more filling, less taste

You are quite correct. I played Cuation, then Geisenfried took it away from me on the 3rd match of World Cup 33 itself, who then lost it to Bettia in the Qtrs, who then lost it to Quakmybush on MD3 of the WC34 qualifiers, who then lost it to ESF, if we are counting friendlies; or if not counting friendlies, Quak lost it to Northern Caesarea of all people, who then lost it back to Bettia....etc. Boy that is a strange trip:

??-->Cuation-->Qazox-->Geisenfried-->Bettia-->Quakmybush-->ESF or Northern Caesarea--> Bettia-->??

Excluding friendlies, continuing the WC-only tradition, and trusting my control-F skills...Bettia lost the UFWC to Capitalizt SLANI. Ariddia took it from them on their road to WC34 victory, and the champions of World Cups 35 through 38 all grabbed the UFWC in the knockout stages.

After winning World Cup 38, Az-cz went undefeated until a certain infamous group stage, when Demot, who beat Az-cz, finished last on drawing of lots. So they kept the UFWC until losing it to Naboombu Umbongo (I kid ye not), who eventually yielded it to Bazalonia within their qualifying group. Bazalonia lost it to Bettia, who didn't make it to the knockouts either, and held onto it until matchday eight of the most recent qualifiers. They lost to the Fujisawan Territories.

On the very next matchday, Fujisawan Territories lost to Vonks.

Vonks won their final World Cup qualification match, and have not logged in in 22 days. (So get off of their case!)

well then i want another friendly against Vonks before WCQ. and this is a weird bof

hey guys I have returned, but am currently in İstanbul.

hey guys I have returned, but am currently in İstanbul.

I would like to express absolutely no sentiment from me is felt toward you being a long way away.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go run outside before I yell very loudly in delight.

funny thing is I was near where the bomb went off

us mens soccer team 1-0 victory over Japan in the olympics wow we can win a non regional game. Holden scored.

sorry i just dont feel like it. (wow nice impersonation)

I would strongly encourage you to start feeling like it.


Consistent failure to use the edit button is potentially the sort of behaviour that can lead to a warning from the mods over spamming.

Australia drew with Serbia 1-1 in Smogjing 2008, not bad.
Australia have to play Argentina next ... I'm hoping for a draw and Oz beat Ivory Coast next.

His Holiness reminds all the civility of using civil manners when conducting business with one another. "Do unto others what you would have done unto you," spake the LORD. (in some translation)

i hope the Ivory Coast beat Serbia there one of my favorite international team.(before Vanautu, chile, scotland, and Iraq even) andim american.

i hope the Ivory Coast beat Serbia there one of my favorite international team.(before Vanautu, chile, scotland, and Iraq even) andim american.
Location: Lancaster, PA

The powers of observation are strong with this one.

Australia drew with Serbia 1-1 in Smogjing 2008, not bad.
Australia have to play Argentina next ... I'm hoping for a draw and Oz beat Ivory Coast next.

Actually so am I, though I would like to see a win against Argentina, they really should have one the game against Serbia.

Since my polite warning from the previous page has been ignored, I've made a formal complaint to the modcave about spamming in this thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13905438#post13905438

I regret that it's come to this. As noted in my complaint, a certain amount of off-topic banter from the likes of Qaz and Jeru (and indeed others, occasionally including myself) has always been tolerated in this thread as part of fostering a sense of community.

Taeshan's recent posting behaviour, however, is causing fairly widespread resentment (not to mention making it virtually impossible to have a sensible discussion).

Regrettably, I know so little about The New World Cup that I had some trouble figuring out what was relevant and what was not, so if I've deleted something absolutely vital, please let me know and I'll put it back.

However, Taeshan, even I can deduce that a post that says "no comment" is spam. Which is why you've been warned for spamming.

Had it been a case of a new player asking reasonable questions and older players becoming impatient, it wouldn't have drawn an infraction.

But several players objected to your posts, explaining why, and you kept on. That's neither innocence nor ignorance, that's deliberate time-wasting.

With thanks to Ardchoille.

Can I just add quickly that this isn't about whether Taeshan is welcome to participate in the WC or not. I've always (well, almost always) been a strong advocate of us welcoming nations regardless of their ability and the quality of their RP. I've always accepted that, for whatever reason, some nations are unable to contribute to our RP posts in as much details as others, and I've specifically defended Taeshan in the past on this very point against Az-cz.

But what we've been witnessing in this thread over the last few pages (at 15 posts a page) was point blank unacceptable.

I nonetheless hope that Taeshan will continue to participate in the WC itself (once he finds out where the edit button is).

After this mod intervention an idea had been raised.

I'd like to get opinions on changing the title of this Thread. Back when it was created. It was new, but reaching 5,600 posts I personally think it's time for a title change.

something like...

"The World Cup Discussion Thread (V2)"

Would seem appropriate, recognition of the previous WCDT and yet inline with tradition of this thread, it precursor's title.

After this mod intervention an idea had been raised.

I'd like to get opinions on changing the title of this Thread. Back when it was created. It was new, but reaching 5,600 posts I personally think it's time for a title change.

something like...

"The World Cup Discussion Thread (V2)"

Would seem appropriate, recognition of the previous WCDT and yet inline with tradition of this thread, it precursor's title.

Great idea.

(Just lurking.)

After this mod intervention an idea had been raised.

I'd like to get opinions on changing the title of this Thread. Back when it was created. It was new, but reaching 5,600 posts I personally think it's time for a title change.

something like...

"The World Cup Discussion Thread (V2)"

Would seem appropriate, recognition of the previous WCDT and yet inline with tradition of this thread, it precursor's title.

Also think this is a good idea. It also prepares us for the day when we might need V3.

Why will we need to make V3? On II, I saw a thread with 22,000 posts.

Well, just incase whatever happens to the first WCDT happens to this one as well.

EDIT: And woot 2000 posts

What's wrong with the New New WCDT?

EDIT: Baz, you have 2000 posts!

Well what happens if we get to an 8th thread or something like that?

The New New New New New New New New World Cup Discussion Thread? :P

Nah, that would World Cup Discussion Thread VIII :)
This one is World Cup Discussion Thread II.

It seems that we'll need to vote!


The New (etc.) World Cup Discussion Thread
The World Cup Discussion Thread (v2)
The World Cup Discussion Thread II
The Newest of the New World Cup Discussion Thread
The Whales Catastrophe! Discussion Thread


I'm partial for that last one.

On my last note about Taeshan...

Maybe we need to have a WCDT how-to thread? Because regrettably some people never learn that one of those two buttons when you log on is in fact the edit button (whereas lamentably others choose to ignore it), so telling people where the button is wouldn't hurt. At least, we could point to a certain thread (like we have for godmodding, setting up your state, how to run an economy, etc) and tell them to read it, afterwards giving them the b00t for failing to comply with forum courtesy. In theory it works (if everyone reads...).

edit - GAH! 4 2s!!! *purges self*

If we change the title, something simple please-"World Cup Discussion Thread (v2)" is fine, so is "World Cup Discussion Thread II".

Maybe a generic NS sticky on etiquette, etc can be linked to from the first post? And maybe the wikilinks there can be replaced by the read-only versions or corresponding WikiStates pages?

edit - GAH! 4 2s!!! *purges self*

You liar, that wasn't an edit. :)

Still don't know why my post was erased. and don't care.

As for renameing the thread? also Who cares?

Still don't know why my post was erased. and don't care.

If you don't care, why bring it up?

I presume it was deleted because you, admittedly with tongue in cheek (I hope), stated that you thought Taeshan was trying to outspam you. Which probably looked worryingly like a challenge to Ardchoille.

As for renameing the thread? also Who cares?

By the looks of it, several of us care. And we care because the name is slightly misleading and will become irrelevant if the thread itself becomes defunct.

My personal opinion is that if it is going to be renamed, the "The World Cup Discussion Thread II" would be best, though (V2) works just as well.

With thanks to Ardchoille.

Can I just add quickly that this isn't about whether Taeshan is welcome to participate in the WC or not. I've always (well, almost always) been a strong advocate of us welcoming nations regardless of their ability and the quality of their RP. I've always accepted that, for whatever reason, some nations are unable to contribute to our RP posts in as much details as others, and I've specifically defended Taeshan in the past on this very point against Az-cz.

But what we've been witnessing in this thread over the last few pages (at 15 posts a page) was point blank unacceptable.

I nonetheless hope that Taeshan will continue to participate in the WC itself (once he finds out where the edit button is).

Agreed. Regrettable that we needed mod intervention, but frankly, we did.
*puts cap on, tips it to Ardchoille, takes it off again*


Also, just a heads up. I will be out of contact all next week (Sunday through Saturday) as my internship here has concluded and I embark on a seven-state whirlwind tour eventually resulting in my return to college for the final year (MD-VA-NC-SC-GA-AL-FL-AL-GA). So if you need me...well, that's just too bad, you'll have to wait until next weekend. :p

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=562619

Noticed the RP thread is up.

Might be a bit early to be asking, as the hosts might not have gotten around to putting it up yet, but are we having a seperate thread to post rosters and such in?

here they are the Taeshan Purple Knights friendly requests(and when)

Liventia-Pre Qualifying (home)
Zwangzug-Pre Qualifying (Home)
Greal-Pre Qualifying (Home)
Daehanjeiguk-Mid Qualifying(Away)
An Blascoad Mor-Mid qualifying(Home)
Sorthern Northland-Mid Qualifying(Home)
Starblyadia-Post qualifying(Away)
Candelaria and Marquez-Post Qualifying(Away)

Both the RP and roster threads are up now.

I will be the first person to post!

I would like to have the New New etc. if neccessary.

Are each World Cup separated by 4 years like in RL? Just need to know for the ages of my players.

It's up to you. Some consider it 4 years, others (like me) 2 years, others just one, and some doesn't follow exact rules.

OK, thanks.

I follow the Imperial Standard: 60RL days = 1 NS year. Coincidentally equivalent to 1 WC season (give or take a few days). Which is why I go by WC seasons instead of years when referring to time. Qazox happens to have a master time chart for people who use the 4-year WC scheme though.

here they are the Taeshan Purple Knights friendly requests(and when)

Liventia-Pre Qualifying (home)

We'd like to decline the invitation.

You liar, that wasn't an edit. :)

You completely missed the point!

4 2's?

42?

not to mention the 4? and the 2? must I pull out the book of Numbers?


And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tabernacle of the congregation, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying...

It was a joke, Magna Sancta Sedes. I know which world cup it is, thank you very much. *groans*

It was a joke, Magna Sancta Sedes. I know which world cup it is, thank you very much. *groans*

MSS = Han

*sighs* (and math is definitely not my strong point, despite an uncanny obsession over numbers)

Ack, so that explains why you're so irritating. *ducks* (and, to be fair, at first I took it to be a HHGTTG joke)

Ack, so that explains why you're so irritating. *ducks* (and, to be fair, at first I took it to be a HHGTTG joke)

well, tbh, it was all of the above.

42

4 twos

incidentally, add the sum of the digits and you get 8, which ain't too bad.

*finds Yafor2 and noogies him to ground*

on another note, who likes His Holiness? because I'm thinking a change might be due (a humourous and enlightening change at that!)

If you don't care, why bring it up?

I presume it was deleted because you, admittedly with tongue in cheek (I hope), stated that you thought Taeshan was trying to outspam you. Which probably looked worryingly like a challenge to Ardchoille.


It was tongue in cheek, if it was deleted because it was takern as aserious post, well that is the MOD's option. And i have no problem with that, hence my TONGUE-IN-CHEEK reply to it.

Hey can somebody help me with my league teams pages( and my league pages) i dont know how to do the box things, and could someone pleease link my country page to the factbooks and all country stuff. And also could someone link all my stuff together in a template thing or box thingy at the bottom.

Who was the last person to use Zombies in the World Cup? Well the answer now is Prux.

Why do we need a new discussin thread?

I think we may have just got over the whole spamming issue and despite a large amount of threads what is the point of starting a new one?

And Baza are you a bureaucrat or work within the government? I ask because it sounds like something that the public service or politicians would do.

Why do we need a new discussin thread?

I think we may have just got over the whole spamming issue and despite a large amount of threads what is the point of starting a new one?

And Baza are you a bureaucrat or work within the government? I ask because it sounds like something that the public service or politicians would do.

We don't need a new discussion thread now, and no one is suggesting that we do.

However, the original discussion thread crashed some 11,000 posts in, which is why this thread is called the 'new' thread. We might well need another new thread in the future if this one also crashes under the weight of its own posts.

We don't need a new discussion thread now, and no one is suggesting that we do.

However, the original discussion thread crashed some 11,000 posts in, which is why this thread is called the 'new' thread. We might well need another new thread in the future if this one also crashes under the weight of its own posts.

Oh ok, well if it ever does than I would like to see any new thread called: The World Cup Discussion Thread III

13 - Saint Athanasius Alexandrinus
9 - Saint Cyrillus Alexandrinus
10 - Saint Cyrillus Hierosolymitanus
16 - Saint Iohannes Chrysostomus
17 - Saint Basilius Magnus


St. Athanasius? Sts. Cyril of both Alexandria and Jeruselem? St. Basil the Great? St John Chrysostom, author of the main Orthodox liturgy?


You'd better hope your bunch of heretical saint-stealing schismatics don't play the Archregimancy in qualifying, because the monks will be out to teach your lot a lesson in holiness.

St. Athanasius? Sts. Cyril of both Alexandria and Jeruselem? St. Basil the Great? St John Chrysostom, author of the main Orthodox liturgy?


You'd better hope your bunch of heretical saint-stealing schismatics don't play the Archregimancy in qualifying, because the monks will be out to teach your lot a lesson in holiness.

It'd be so weird it does happen. Of course, we'd just make things worse.

PS The Cheaters (Italy) are slaughtering the South Koreans in the current Beijing 2008 football ...

St. Athanasius? Sts. Cyril of both Alexandria and Jeruselem? St. Basil the Great? St John Chrysostom, author of the main Orthodox liturgy?


You'd better hope your bunch of heretical saint-stealing schismatics don't play the Archregimancy in qualifying, because the monks will be out to teach your lot a lesson in holiness.

Be as it may, they're also Doctors of the Catholic Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_the_Church).

PS The Cheaters (Italy) are slaughtering the South Koreans in the current Beijing 2008 football ...

Yeah that doesn't surprise me. A few hours ago I watched the Olyroos just lose the game to Argentina, shame.

If the friendly "reserve Zwangzug for NS2" message that greeted me when I logged in is any indication, the long-awaited game may truly be coming to fruition. I plan to play NS2 with, essentially, an AU version of this Zwangzug: some similarities, some differences...no, I don't expect you to care.

The possibly substantive issue, then, is where NS2 will leave the WC? Will we all migrate over with old records intact? Will another WC arise, starting anew? Branch off into an alternate timeline, and two simultaneous WC43s (or whatever the first tournament after NS2's release is)?

My assumption has been that we'd truck on as normal right here and that another community would do whatever it feels like over there, with possible overlap. But it might be a good idea to have a game plan well before any controversy can arise. What do other people think?

On another subject, how the hell have the fixtures for the knockout round of the BoF been organised? The top teams of both Groups B and C play each other, while 4th in B plays 5th in C. There's a few other oddities in there, too. How the devil have you figured it out?

I head out of town and goto Wales for a couple days and look what happens, the Russians invade Georgia and you lot start talking about changing the title of this thread.

I'm not saying either of those are a coincidence, but...

WCDT Title: The World Cup Discussion Thread II

Qazox: A couple WCs ago I RP'ed bringing back the Bostopian Football Team from the 1880/1881 season to play in Bazalonia's "Who'll sponsor us" tournament, (and ended up bringing back everyone involved in the 1880/1881 season out-of-RP, and the Emperor and such in-RP) and they were referred to as "Zombies".

Zwangy: Personally, as I assume a large number of us would continue playing one NS or another, or playing both, I think the WC should carry on as-is, or under the following guidelines, open to amendment etc.

Bostopian Pre-Proposal for the World Cup regarding NS and NS2 nations.

"We (the OOC F.A. of Bostopia, ie, me myself and I) believe that as long as a player has an active nation on either NS or NS2, they should be allowed to continue in the WC without loss of points (if in qualifying) or being struck off from sign-up lists. Further, all KPB points should be transferred to the NS2 nation if the NS nation dies*. No player will be allowed more than one puppet entering the NSWC as with existing regulations, even if one puppet exists on NS and another NS2.

We believe in this pre-proposal as at this moment in time all players have access to all forums under http://forums.jolt.co.uk (when they're working), and that until that situation changes such as NS2 getting it's own forums, the pre-proposal would form a solid base for the WCC and her members to discuss and amend as necessary before putting to a vote when more details are known and the time is right to do so."

*Zwangzug has asked me about this, so I will add detail: Basically, if I lost all sentimentality for NS1 Bostopia, and was to let it die, while continuing to log-in as Bostopia on NS2, I would like the KPB points amassed by Bostopia on NS1 to be automatically transferred over to Bostopia on NS2, so I don't have to start from scratch even though I would essentially see it as the same country (because I will be, even though the pop would start off as 1 million or whatever). Any points amassed for Bostopia on NS2 (not that I'd play as NS1 Bostopia with NS2 Bostopia as my puppet, that would be bloody confusing and way too insane even for me) would NOT be added to the total points gained by NS1 Bostopia at the time of transfer.

As Zwangzug has also just said to me, this is dependant on us having seperate log-ins for our NS1 and NS2 nations. If so, this proposal will be, in Zwangy's words, "moot". Now I think about it, I probably won't open an NS2 forums account for Bostopia unless need-be.

Incase anyone important from the USSR... sorry, Russian Federation is reading this, neither myself nor the Confederate States of Bostopia (a totally fictional entity on a web-based game) is any threat whatsoever to the Russian Federation, and the comment regarding yourselves invading Georgia while I wasn't around is not meant to indicate that I or my (fictional) nation pose any threat whatsoever to the Russian Federation and her peoples. Please don't bomb me.

Be as it may, they're also Doctors of the Catholic Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_the_Church).

OOC, I am of course fully aware of that. As a general rule of thumb, most saints pre-dating 800 AD are both Orthodox and Catholic, some saints between 800 AD and 1054 AD are both Orthodox and Catholic, and most saints post-dating 1054 AD are either Orthodox or Catholic.

But IC'ly, there'll be hell to pay....

OOC, I am of course fully aware of that. As a general rule of thumb, most saints pre-dating 800 AD are both Orthodox and Catholic, some saints between 800 AD and 1054 AD are both Orthodox and Catholic, and most saints post-dating 1054 AD are either Orthodox or Catholic.

But IC'ly, there'll be hell to pay....

Well, then there will be the GREAT SCHISMATIC WAR! Part 1093...

On another subject, how the hell have the fixtures for the knockout round of the BoF been organised? The top teams of both Groups B and C play each other, while 4th in B plays 5th in C. There's a few other oddities in there, too. How the devil have you figured it out?

It was originally planed that all the teams would be ordered in the following manner

A1
A2
A3
A4
A5
B1
...
C5
D1

In this order the top would play the bottom ie A1 vs. D1, A2 vs. C5 and so on.

However due to the structure that meant bassically all the B teams apart from one faced each other again.

So basically in the end we just randomised it. For the most part they're fairly evenly streched apart except for A1 and D1

And Baza are you a bureaucrat or work within the government? I ask because it sounds like something that the public service or politicians would do.

I have to clear innocent Bazalonia of such a terrible accusation.

It was me wot dunnit, squire. Or suggested it, anyway.

*runs*

I have to clear innocent Bazalonia of such a terrible accusation.

It was me wot dunnit, squire. Or suggested it, anyway.

*runs*

:D A moderator I might have known.

As for NS2 I would like to know what would happen in regards to the WC, I for one would rather see everything moved over rather than starting again.

But then the question is, does the old NS game fall over and things just continue to NS2 or is it similar to starting a whole new nation with the same name.

It was originally planed that all the teams would be ordered in the following manner

A1
A2
A3
A4
A5
B1
...
C5
D1

In this order the top would play the bottom ie A1 vs. D1, A2 vs. C5 and so on.

However due to the structure that meant bassically all the B teams apart from one faced each other again.

So basically in the end we just randomised it. For the most part they're fairly evenly streched apart except for A1 and D1

I'd argue that it wasn't, and a fairer draw would be more along these lines...

A1 v C5
A2 v D1
A3 v C3
A4 v B5
A5 v B4
B1 v C4
B2 v C2
B3 v C1

Mainly on the basis that the teams at the top of one group are reasonably likely to be better than the ones at the bottom of the next, but due to a tougher group previously, aren't in a better position.

As for NS2 I would like to know what would happen in regards to the WC, I for one would rather see everything moved over rather than starting again.

But then the question is, does the old NS game fall over and things just continue to NS2 or is it similar to starting a whole new nation with the same name.

I disagree. Some — quite a number, probably — will want to remain on NS1. I myself will reserve my nation name for NS2 but will almost definitely stick to NS1.

i will also be reserving my name and proballlly do both until i figure out if NS2 is better. I will most likely just go back and forth for a whil unless it is ten times better or something like that.

Well I gotta stick my 2 cents worth in the NS/NS2 discussion.

I'm gonna have nations on each.

As for how it may relate to the WC and other competitions, If you can post with aNS or NS2 nation on Jolt, then as far as I'm concerned that nation should count. Just as if one is a puppet, and the other the Main, you have to identify which one is the MAIN NATION. If everyone does that, then there should be little to no problems at all with NS2.

Hey i was wondering(once i finish) can somebody put a template on m Kosovoe soccer team page, and my other teams not soccer.

I disagree. Some — quite a number, probably — will want to remain on NS1. I myself will reserve my nation name for NS2 but will almost definitely stick to NS1.

Well that is sort of my point I would hope that we just have the one main competition rather than two separate ones.

I know I wasn't clear in my statement.

Well I gotta stick my 2 cents worth in the NS/NS2 discussion.

I'm gonna have nations on each.

As for how it may relate to the WC and other competitions, If you can post with aNS or NS2 nation on Jolt, then as far as I'm concerned that nation should count. Just as if one is a puppet, and the other the Main, you have to identify which one is the MAIN NATION. If everyone does that, then there should be little to no problems at all with NS2.

Yes, I would hope that most people for RP purposes sort of combine the two nations so when on the forums we don't have two Blouman Empires or two Qazox's *shudders at the thought* :wink:

on a small note: Hey everybody its my first day of my second year on in a coupl of hours. This being my one year aniversary... and know back to your regular broadcast

and on a big note Go USA you can beat those Nigerians. Netherlands you can beat Japan. Cote D'Ivore(my second favorite team after USA) you can beat Austalia.

Wasn't this thread called "The New World Cup Disscussion Thread?"

Maybe I'm behind the times.

Its been changed most likely because of all this dicussion

Oh. Thanks.

*drops two Canadian pennies in a well - oops! they're actually worth more than American pennies*

To add my quidbit about NS and NS2 - I think there's a very easy solution to this problem...

Since many of us (myself included) are reserving our nation names on NS2, it's probably going to be a lot simpler to track KPB by nation names. So KPB ranks should follow the nation name (unless you're Krytenia and want to %$#^ people for an entire World Cup season with this marriage shebang). That probably means more administrative work, verifying CtE status on two different sites. But it's probably going to be harder anyway, because some new people are going to be exclusively NS2, while others might be exclusively NS. And then there might be the issue of some of the NS2 people not agreeing with the NS people, making their own version of the NSWC (NS2WC anyone?) - and that's probably just as fine.

I think there's probably too much caution being put into something that probably isn't that much of a big deal (says he who doesn't know if OMAC is going to identify two different sets of users in two different, incompatible forums; in which case, here comes the first NS2WC host :P j/k!). I guess the biggest point is that we'll have to wait and see what actually happens and then plan accordingly.

I already reserved my nation for NS2.

On an unrelated note, I reached the quarter finals of Baptism of Fire 29. Long way to go. :eek::eek:

That makes two of us - on both counts.

Well, I wonder if they will have NS2 forums placed here in jolt? :D

W00t! It's The World Cup Discussion Thread II, my suggestion! YAY! :)

PS - Jeruselem is reserved for me in NS2 ...

I already reserved my nation for NS2.

On an unrelated note, I reached the quarter finals of Baptism of Fire 29. Long way to go. :eek::eek:

Well done, keep going until run into that football brick wall!

Well, I wonder if they will have NS2 forums placed here in jolt? :D

Yep - They're already here!

Just click on "Hosted Site Communities" in the thing above just below the NS banner and right below the NS forums are the NS2 forums

Well done, keep going until run into that football brick wall!

*hopes that MSS is the brick wall*

---incoming transmission from Middle-of-Nowhere, Florida---

Argh, damn you Zwang for opening this can of worms. :p Though it's a can that certainly did need to be opened.

This has the potential to get very messy, that much is true. Personally I'd like to maintain just one competition, and since apparently both the NS1 and NS2 forums are being hosted here (for the time being at least) that shouldn't be that difficult.

So, a brief outline of what I think:

Maintain one competition, open to both NS1 and NS2 nations
There doesn't even really need to be a concept of "transferring" a nation's KPB points from NS1 to NS2 or vice versa. This is because...
In order to determine if a nation still exists for our purposes, it should exist on either NS1 or NS2 (or both, though this isn't required). Yes, that makes CTE checking a royal pain in the patoot, but there's really not a better option.
For the sake of the sanity of everyone involved, it should not be allowed for Nation X in NS1 to enter as a puppet of Nation X in NS2 or vice versa. (That is, Sorthern Northland in NS1 and Sorthern Northland in NS2 can't sign up as two separate entities. A "normal" puppet situation spanning both games, such as NS1 Sorthern Northland and NS2 An Blascaod Mor, would still be acceptable.)


Clear as mud? Hopefully so.

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For the sake of the sanity of everyone involved, it should not be allowed for Nation X in NS1 to enter as a puppet of Nation X in NS2 or vice versa. (That is, Sorthern Northland in NS1 and Sorthern Northland in NS2 can't sign up as two separate entities. A "normal" puppet situation spanning both games, such as NS1 Sorthern Northland and NS2 An Blascaod Mor, would still be acceptable.)
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That's roughly what I said about 15 or 16 posts ago. SEE? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13914296&postcount=5643

Interestingly, if I have a Jeruselem in NS1 and Jeruselem in NS2 then it's easy (I've reserved Jeruselem in NS2 - so no thieving :tongue:).

But if say there's an Ariddia in NS1 but someone else takes Ariddia in NS2 - who isn't the same person as NS1 Ariddian then ... things get confusing. Then we'd have tables like

NS1 Ariddia
NS2 Ariddia
<blah>

When we sign up we should state if the nation is NS1+NS2, NS1 or NS2.

Well, better to work something, at least tentatively, out now than chaos in half a year...

In response to Jeruselem's point, I'm not sure that will be an issue. Jolt already uses [NS] or something as a prefix to NS nations' forum accounts when the country's name duplicates a preexisting Jolt account. Presumably, they'll want to minimize identity crises on the forum at large, so the hypothetical second Ariddia would already have an account prefixed with [NS2] or the equivalent. That's just my guess, but it seems like this has the potential for confusion far beyond the WC, so someone probably will have a way around it...

On the main topic, restricting ourselves to a single competition open to nations in both games seems the way to go. Would it be located in this subforum, and continue counting from where we leave off? That seems best to me...

Ok I've been examing the rankings that were released a little while back and if my calculations are correct, then assuming my Land de Wood continue their winning streak and win the Baptism of Fire we will have 3 world ranking points (11 wins from 11 games eqauls 3 points if I've understood it correctly)
This would put us straight in the top 100. joint 95th to be exact.


No, I was planning to wait until the conclusion of the BoF. Then again, now that I think about it, the BoF is probably going to end sometime next week when I'll be without internet access. Hmm.

Watch this space over the next couple hours.

EDIT: Here we go. All credit for these updated rankings goes to Cafundéu, who actually put these together a few days ago.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.ods)
Excel (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Post-WC41 Rankings.pdf)

Ok I've been examing the rankings that were released a little while back and if my calculations are correct, then assuming my Land de Wood continue their winning streak and win the Baptism of Fire we will have 3 world ranking points (11 wins from 11 games eqauls 3 points if I've understood it correctly)
This would put us straight in the top 100. joint 95th to be exact.

Right and wrong!

Right = if Land de Wood wins the Baptism of Fire, they will have 3 points (like moi at BoF23).

Wrong = since post-BoF29 scores will exclude scores attained from BoF27 (as per a two-year cycle for the BoF), some people will actually lose points, meaning that Land de Wood will potentially have a higher rank (potentially as in, there will be people who lose points, but it might not affect where Land de Wood comes in). That said, there's usually one or two changes that makes it different than what is expected, so no promises you'll be 95th.

Wrong = since post-BoF29 scores will exclude scores attained from BoF27


Blah.... :p
Though it will be good not to drop again while not doing anything.

Well one out of two is not a bad start.

Forgot about ageing the other BOF scores. Assuming that BoF28 points will also be halved (As the BoF27 points were in this spreadsheet) this would actually put us joint 90th!

Right and wrong!

Right = if Land de Wood wins the Baptism of Fire, they will have 3 points (like moi at BoF23).

Wrong = since post-BoF29 scores will exclude scores attained from BoF27 (as per a two-year cycle for the BoF), some people will actually lose points, meaning that Land de Wood will potentially have a higher rank (potentially as in, there will be people who lose points, but it might not affect where Land de Wood comes in). That said, there's usually one or two changes that makes it different than what is expected, so no promises you'll be 95th.

---incoming transmission from Middle-of-Nowhere, Florida---

Argh, damn you Zwang for opening this can of worms. :p Though it's a can that certainly did need to be opened.

This has the potential to get very messy, that much is true. Personally I'd like to maintain just one competition, and since apparently both the NS1 and NS2 forums are being hosted here (for the time being at least) that shouldn't be that difficult.

So, a brief outline of what I think:

Maintain one competition, open to both NS1 and NS2 nations
There doesn't even really need to be a concept of "transferring" a nation's KPB points from NS1 to NS2 or vice versa. This is because...
In order to determine if a nation still exists for our purposes, it should exist on either NS1 or NS2 (or both, though this isn't required). Yes, that makes CTE checking a royal pain in the patoot, but there's really not a better option.
For the sake of the sanity of everyone involved, it should not be allowed for Nation X in NS1 to enter as a puppet of Nation X in NS2 or vice versa. (That is, Sorthern Northland in NS1 and Sorthern Northland in NS2 can't sign up as two separate entities. A "normal" puppet situation spanning both games, such as NS1 Sorthern Northland and NS2 An Blascaod Mor, would still be acceptable.)


Clear as mud? Hopefully so.

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---signal lost; transmission terminated---

Hear, Hear, I thoroughly support this decision, even if my opinions mean nothing.

Well one out of two is not a bad start.

Forgot about ageing the other BOF scores. Assuming that BoF28 points will also be halved (As the BoF27 points were in this spreadsheet) this would actually put us joint 90th!

<Was 57th after my first Baptism of Fire. :)

<Was 56th? after WB 41 Quals and the CoH. :(

Do I get any points from Baptism of Fire 29? Even though I didn't win it?

As I understand it, yes.

Basically they take your points total from the games you do play in the Baptism of Fire 29 and then divide it by the total number of games you could have played 11.
So for example if you get 5 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat over 8 games then you would get 5*3 + 2*1 = 17. 17/11 = 1.55 points. Wins in the knock out stages count as 3 points, while defeats count as 0, not sure what you get for a draw after normal time, if you then win/loss in extra time or penalties.

Had a bumpy road: I lost 4 times, won 3 times, drew 2 times.

You'll get points for the KPB rankings, but not as many as someone who did well. When it all comes down to it, over the course of long term I don't think it'll make any difference though.

Since we don't really have a World Cup of Hockey Discussion thread (and don't really need one,) I hate to interupt the WCDT 2 to announce that the first 3 World Cups of Hockey have been Wikified. Now back to the thrilling disscussion as to why the US men's soccer team will win a World Cup before they ever win an Olympic Gold Medal.

Since we don't really have a World Cup of Hockey Discussion thread (and don't really need one,) I hate to interupt the WCDT 2 to announce that the first 3 World Cups of Hockey have been Wikified. Now back to the thrilling disscussion as to why the US men's soccer team will win a World Cup before they ever win an Olympic Gold Medal.

Brazil have never won an Olympic Gold Medal either! OK, they've a few more World Cups than US though

Well the Olympics is a U-23 sport, so that obviously negates most Americans that have experience. Remember that due to High Schooling and in some cases College experience, a lot of American players don't get to play with the best players in their nation's professional ranks until they turn 18-22, a point at which most Euro Nationals are normally playing first team football, either for their club team, or to be loaned to a second division team to get 1st team time.

Not to mention that due to EU Passport rules, a lot of Americans aren't going to be able to go over there and take the Jay Demerrit route into the higher leagues of Europe. So we would have to actually grow some from of Domestic League as well, and MLS looks to be the best we have...man that last sentence made me sad.

Full disclosure: I am a fan of a USL First division team, which at one point probably could have been the better league. And MLS refuses to serve my section of the country AT ALL.

/rant

What do you mean, I wasn't supposed to take Qazok seriously?

Well the Olympics is a U-23 sport, so that obviously negates most Americans that have experience. Remember that due to High Schooling and in some cases College experience, a lot of American players don't get to play with the best players in their nation's professional ranks until they turn 18-22, a point at which most Euro Nationals are normally playing first team football, either for their club team, or to be loaned to a second division team to get 1st team time.

Not to mention that due to EU Passport rules, a lot of Americans aren't going to be able to go over there and take the Jay Demerrit route into the higher leagues of Europe. So we would have to actually grow some from of Domestic League as well, and MLS looks to be the best we have...man that last sentence made me sad.

Full disclosure: I am a fan of a USL First division team, which at one point probably could have been the better league. And MLS refuses to serve my section of the country AT ALL.

/rant

What do you mean, I wasn't supposed to take Qazok seriously?

(Arroza: Enough with the QAZOK stuff, please, it is beginning to get annoying. :mad: I at least can spell Arroza and almost every other nation correctly.)

As for my comment above, It is semi-serious, as the US does do better in the World Cup, (granted they haven't done that great, but at least we're there alomost every time, unlike about 150 other countries), even in the 1984 and 1996 Olympics, here in the USA, we couldn't get out of group play. IF the USA wants to win a World Cup (or Olympic Gold) anytime soon, they must begin to train the younger players, like every other country does. There's no reason why the US shouldn't be able to field a team every 4 years that at least makes the medal round in the Olympics and the quarterfinals in the World Cup.

Well the Olympics is a U-23 sport, so that obviously negates most Americans that have experience. Remember that due to High Schooling and in some cases College experience, a lot of American players don't get to play with the best players in their nation's professional ranks until they turn 18-22, a point at which most Euro Nationals are normally playing first team football, either for their club team, or to be loaned to a second division team to get 1st team time.

When Darren Huckerby went over to San Jose recently he pointed out one of the problems is that 23 year olds can still be considered 'rookies'.

Then you look at someone like Fernando Torres who's turned 24 this year. Well done, USA!

Not to mention that due to EU Passport rules, a lot of Americans aren't going to be able to go over there and take the Jay Demerrit route into the higher leagues of Europe.

It's not really the EU that's the problem.

I can't believe I just said that. Go on, quote me, you know you want to.

Anyway, it's nations like the United Kingdom where our Department for Work and Pensions doesn't allow players born outside of the EU who don't hold citizenship of a EU nation (through either birth, their parents or grandparents) to play without a work permit. Hence, American, Canadian etc etc players who don't have say Irish parents or grandparents would find it hard to get into a team in the UK at a young enough age to have their potential really developed outside of the NCAA system and then hopefully get drafted into the MLS. To qualify for a work permit you need to have played a large % of games for your national team, or for your team to show that you will make a major impact on the domestic game in England/Scotland/Wales/N. Ireland (circle as applicable).

Renewing a work permit is another matter (and is done when a new contract is signed by the player, unless he's lived in the UK for 5 years by that point and can therefore apply for UK citizenship), as players must have played enough domestic games for their team - see Liverpool's Sebastian Leto, who we've just had to send on loan to Olympiakos (Greece) for a season in the hope he gets a work permit next time we want to renew his contract.

However, places like Spain do allow players without EU citizenship to be part of squads without work permit, but numbers are of course limited, and usually taken up by rather good players. I'm not sure about youth team rules though.

I think it'd be fair to say I learn most things about work permits and the like from Football Manager, thereby proving that some games are educational. From GTA:IV I've also learnt that when you take a girl on a date and start shooting people, they get scared and walk themselves home. Never knew that.

On another note. Yay for WC42. Up the red and whites! Bostopia, ra ra ra, Bostopia, ra ra ra and so on. Yus, back on topic!

Well the Olympics is a U-23 sport, so that obviously negates most Americans that have experience. Remember that due to High Schooling and in some cases College experience, a lot of American players don't get to play with the best players in their nation's professional ranks until they turn 18-22, a point at which most Euro Nationals are normally playing first team football, either for their club team, or to be loaned to a second division team to get 1st team time.

They are allowed to have three players over the age of 23 in the team at the Olympics.

(Arroza: Enough with the QAZOK stuff, please, it is beginning to get annoying. :mad: I at least can spell Arroza and almost every other nation correctly.)

Sorry. Honestly. I read it and see it incorrectly everytime.

As for my comment above, It is semi-serious, as the US does do better in the World Cup, (granted they haven't done that great, but at least we're there alomost every time, unlike about 150 other countries), even in the 1984 and 1996 Olympics, here in the USA, we couldn't get out of group play. IF the USA wants to win a World Cup (or Olympic Gold) anytime soon, they must begin to train the younger players, like every other country does. There's no reason why the US shouldn't be able to field a team every 4 years that at least makes the medal round in the Olympics and the quarterfinals in the World Cup.

I think that getting out of group play in the Olympics and getting out of group play in the World Cup is basicaly exuivalent, and is something which isn't done either way (2002 WC not-withstanding). Some of the issue is that outside of Mexico and away games at Costa Rica and Honduras, we don't really get to see a good quality of team on a regular basis in qualifying.

I agree in training younger players, but we should also try to get in more international competitions like the Gold Cup or what the S. American cup is (I can't remember...) Maybe even work towards combining Conmebol and Concacaf...

It's not really the EU that's the problem.

I can't believe I just said that. Go on, quote me, you know you want to.

Anyway, it's nations like the United Kingdom where our Department for Work and Pensions doesn't allow players born outside of the EU who don't hold citizenship of a EU nation (through either birth, their parents or grandparents) to play without a work permit. Hence, American, Canadian etc etc players who don't have say Irish parents or grandparents would find it hard to get into a team in the UK at a young enough age to have their potential really developed outside of the NCAA system and then hopefully get drafted into the MLS. To qualify for a work permit you need to have played a large % of games for your national team, or for your team to show that you will make a major impact on the domestic game in England/Scotland/Wales/N. Ireland (circle as applicable).

Renewing a work permit is another matter (and is done when a new contract is signed by the player, unless he's lived in the UK for 5 years by that point and can therefore apply for UK citizenship), as players must have played enough domestic games for their team - see Liverpool's Sebastian Leto, who we've just had to send on loan to Olympiakos (Greece) for a season in the hope he gets a work permit next time we want to renew his contract.

However, places like Spain do allow players without EU citizenship to be part of squads without work permit, but numbers are of course limited, and usually taken up by rather good players. I'm not sure about youth team rules though.

I think it'd be fair to say I learn most things about work permits and the like from Football Manager, thereby proving that some games are educational. From GTA:IV I've also learnt that when you take a girl on a date and start shooting people, they get scared and walk themselves home. Never knew that.


Hmm...never knew that about Spain. I knew that about England from playing Football Manager as well, silly me thinking I could raid MLS for talent @ Millwall...

Point is, if you're an 18 year old American, and you think you can be a star in soccer, you should probably be looing for a job in Europe. And I've got to think that it's going to be incredibly hard to go from H.S. somewhere in like Birmngham to being noticed for, much less getting on a team in Bilbao, or Limerick, or somewheres like that.

Hmm...never knew that about Spain. I knew that about England from playing Football Manager as well, silly me thinking I could raid MLS for talent @ Millwall...



The rules are similarly liberal in Belgium, which is why many Belgian teams have links with teams abroad - the most famous being the link between Royal Antwerp and Manchester United.



Point is, if you're an 18 year old American, and you think you can be a star in soccer, you should probably be looing for a job in Europe. And I've got to think that it's going to be incredibly hard to go from H.S. somewhere in like Birmngham to being noticed for, much less getting on a team in Bilbao, or Limerick, or somewheres like that.

Well, you'd struggle to get in at Athletic Bilbao, considering that they only ever sign Basque players.

(Sorry - I know I'm being pedantic...)

The rules are similarly liberal in Belgium, which is why many Belgian teams have links with teams abroad - the most famous being the link between Royal Antwerp and Manchester United.

Well, you'd struggle to get in at Athletic Bilbao, considering that they only ever sign Basque players.

(Sorry - I know I'm being pedantic...)

I guess that's why Onyewu went to England via Standard Liege. Like I said, interesting.
It was the first town in Spain I thought of, not named Barcelona or Madrid.

It was the first town in Spain I thought of, not named Barcelona or Madrid.

It was bound to happen - the one you randomly choose is the exception!

It was bound to happen - the one you randomly choose is the exception!

There is an exception to every exception, even this one.

hey how bout those Cote d'ivore players. They play Nigeria next i might add and they cost the USA there chance at the knockouts.(though id dont really give credit to the Netherlands because they are my third favorite team after the US, and the Ivory Coast). Anyways go Cote D'ivore.

hey how bout those Cote d'ivore players. They play Nigeria next i might add and they cost the USA there chance at the knockouts.(though id dont really give credit to the Netherlands because they are my third favorite team after the US, and the Ivory Coast). Anyways go Cote D'ivore.

Booo, Cote d'ivore they knocked Australia out!

Booo, Cote d'ivore they knocked Australia out!

Admitted Oz couldn't buy a goal in that game, but I think Nigeria will smash Ivory Coast next.

*crosses fingers hoping that Choir Boys hasn't been already crossed off the list of things used as national football teams*

Hmm...never knew that about Spain. I knew that about England from playing Football Manager as well, silly me thinking I could raid MLS for talent @ Millwall...


What irritates me in Football Manager is when you take over as manager of a new team, and the board has negotiated a right of first refusal agreement over transfers with a team in another country, and then you can't sign that fantastically promising 17 year old central midfielder from the linked team because your board - in their infinite and unknowable wisdom - have reached that agreement with a non-EU country and you can't get a work permit for a 17 year old Algerian.

GAH! lost by 4 goals in my 2nd BoF Final!!!

*summarily purges self*

GAH! lost by 4 goals in my 2nd BoF Final!!!

*summarily purges self*

I actually expected you to win.... :D

What irritates me in Football Manager is when you take over as manager of a new team, and the board has negotiated a right of first refusal agreement over transfers with a team in another country, and then you can't sign that fantastically promising 17 year old central midfielder from the linked team because your board - in their infinite and unknowable wisdom - have reached that agreement with a non-EU country and you can't get a work permit for a 17 year old Algerian.

I never got that... but that might be because I never manage in England (I simply get frustrated after half a season because my teams never live up to their expectations. While I do quite well in other countries. Don't ask me why...

I actually expected you to win.... :D

After racking a wonderful 2 points from the last two World Cups, I've since learned to sack expectations.

Oh, FYI to OFC folk, the final match is tonight in 10 minutes.

Congrats to West Zirconia on your BoF Championship...

Now comes the real challange, becoming the first BoF champion in a long while to qualify for the World Cup.

To all who participated (by that I mean RP'd), this is just the beginning, and good luck to ya. Unless I'm drawn against any of you in the qualifers, then bad luck to ya. :)

Congrats to West Zirconia on your BoF Championship...

Now comes the real challange, becoming the first BoF champion in a long while to qualify for the World Cup.

To all who participated (by that I mean RP'd), this is just the beginning, and good luck to ya. Unless I'm drawn against any of you in the qualifers, then bad luck to ya. :)

LOL, conditional good luck messages! Not that I'd say any different. :tongue:

just an FYI- seems its that's time of year again where i can;t sign in as Tynelia again so i'll have to be posting everything from here again. i'll try to make a note at the top of my posts in the WC as to which nation the RP is supposed to be counted for.

just an FYI- seems its that's time of year again where i can;t sign in as Tynelia again so i'll have to be posting everything from here again. i'll try to make a note at the top of my posts in the WC as to which nation the RP is supposed to be counted for.

on that note, I hope that you enjoyed my weather forecast (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13918595&postcount=95) :D read #2

The World Cup is going to start soon, so these are the rankings after the Baptism of Fire (links for their downloads):

ODS file (http://www.savefile.com/files/1733917)
Excel file (http://www.savefile.com/files/1733912)
Excel 97-02 file (http://www.savefile.com/files/1733915)
no pdf version available

Wow. I lost rank during a competition I wasn't even in. Amazing! :p

HOSTS ANNOUNCEMENT

We are announcing that An Blascaod Mór will be replaced by The Macabees. That decision was taken as we could not wait anymore (there has been enough waiting so far) to begin this and that An Blascaod Mór, a puppet of Sorthern Northland, was the last puppet to sign-up. However, should a nation CTE between today and the beginning of the WCQs, that CTEd nation will be replaced by An Blascaod Mór

Furthermore, the draw will be held Monday (based on EDT) around 20:00 (Tuesday 01:00 in the UK). I know it's late for some people, but that's the earlier we could do it and have many people during the live draw. Please note that the draw will be held live on IRC in the #nssport channel located on the Esper server (please follow these instructions kindly given by #nssport's resident lady (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13409011&postcount=2391) if you don't know how).

Finally, the qualifiers will begin on Wednesday with the pre-qualification friendlies. Just to remind you that the only friendly requests we'll be taking will be those sent to our e-mail address ( nswc.hosts@gmail.com ). You're welcome to send them in until we scorinate the friendlies.

I guess that's it. If there's anything else to add, I'll let my co-host add it

Taeshan Reannounces un answered friendly requests.
Greal Pre Home
Dahanjeiguk Mid Away
Starblaydia Post Away
C&M Post Away

Also did you get all my emails Hosts.

Taeshan Reannounces un answered friendly requests.
Greal Pre Home
Dahanjeiguk Mid Away
Starblaydia Post Away
C&M Post Away

Also did you get all my emails Hosts.

We'll step in for any of the away friendlies should anyone decline. :)

The Most Holy Representative Football Team of Magna Sancta Sedes wishes to invite a member of the Dreamed Realm to compete against the Most Holy Representative Football Team of Magna Sancta Sedes at a neutral venue (tbd). The friendly would be post-qualifier.

Hey Jeru we could do a Friendly Pre. Ive got lots of open spots. Away most likely for me. I usually play the bigger Teams away.(unless during Quals)

Hey Jeru we could do a Friendly Pre. Ive got lots of open spots. Away most likely for me. I usually play the bigger Teams away.(unless during Quals)

That'll be fine, the girls need some practice! You can send the email since you're so keen. :)
Actually, I've forgotten that email address.

ive been looking at the um NSF 2.07 version and it seems every time i click the league it comes up with Error. Does anyone have the foggiest idea what is wrong. Ive saved it on to my computer and everything

ive been looking at the um NSF 2.07 version and it seems every time i click the league it comes up with Error. Does anyone have the foggiest idea what is wrong. Ive saved it on to my computer and everything

What does the error message say?

HOSTS ANNOUNCEMENT

We are announcing that An Blascaod Mór will be replaced by The Macabees. That decision was taken as we could not wait anymore (there has been enough waiting so far) to begin this and that An Blascaod Mór, a puppet of Sorthern Northland, was the last puppet to sign-up. However, should a nation CTE between today and the beginning of the WCQs, that CTEd nation will be replaced by An Blascaod Mór

Furthermore, the draw will be held Monday (based on EDT) around 20:00 (Tuesday 01:00 in the UK). I know it's late for some people, but that's the earlier we could do it and have many people during the live draw. Please note that the draw will be held live on IRC in the #nssport channel located on the Esper server (please follow these instructions kindly given by #nssport's resident lady (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13409011&postcount=2391) if you don't know how).

Finally, the qualifiers will begin on Wednesday with the pre-qualification friendlies. Just to remind you that the only friendly requests we'll be taking will be those sent to our e-mail address ( nswc.hosts@gmail.com ). You're welcome to send them in until we scorinate the friendlies.

I guess that's it. If there's anything else to add, I'll let my co-host add it

That'll be fine, the girls need some practice! You can send the email since you're so keen. :)
Actually, I've forgotten that email address.

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Zounds! Casari is dead, so there goes the Golden Cake Pan. But we still have the Golden Ambiguous Bird with Skates to contest, if you're up for it, Newmanistan.

Oh yeah, and I guess maybe the Arroza friendly can happen now? What say you?

How are things doing here? I appear to have forgotten NS. :(

However, I do have a workable RP idea for me to do. :)

How are things doing here? I appear to have forgotten NS. :(

However, I do have a workable RP idea for me to do. :)

Yoinks! It's back! :eek::eek::eek:

Yoinks! It's back! :eek::eek::eek:

Do not feed the animals...:p

Zounds! Casari is dead, so there goes the Golden Cake Pan. But we still have the Golden Ambiguous Bird with Skates to contest, if you're up for it, Newmanistan.


Let's do it.... I believe it's our turn to be home for it!

We are also interested in travelling to a top 10 nation for a pre-qualifying friendly if interested.

hey

when is the next world cup?

or when are the pre-qualifyings, so my nation can participate (if is not too late)

thank you...

Zounds! Casari is dead, so there goes the Golden Cake Pan. But we still have the Golden Ambiguous Bird with Skates to contest, if you're up for it, Newmanistan.

Oh yeah, and I guess maybe the Arroza friendly can happen now? What say you?

Da. You want to mail it or should I?

Taeshan Reannounces un answered friendly requests.
Greal Pre Home
Dahanjeiguk Mid Away
Starblaydia Post Away
C&M Post Away

Also did you get all my emails Hosts.

We would like to schedule a friendly @ Taesean if a spot opens from those that were unanswered.

We would also like to schedule a friendly @ Qazox.

Well, that's an automatic 0-3 friendly season.

Umm, the ranking file for some reason isn't dowloading for me, if some one has already downloaded do they mind telling me where I am, or should it be the same as before the BoF as I was so high none of those competitors would have challenged my standing yet.

Why was the way it is usually downloaded changed?

if some one has already downloaded do they mind telling me where I am

You are 41st.

And on an unrelated note, I think I am beginning to go through that thing called RP burnout I've heard so much about.....

Let's do it.... I believe it's our turn to be home for it!

Aye, indeed it is!

Da. You want to mail it or should I?

Go for it, pick the time and place.

It should be sent.

We would like to schedule a friendly @ Taesean if a spot opens from those that were unanswered.

We would also like to schedule a friendly @ Qazox.

Well, that's an automatic 0-3 friendly season.

Arroza, I only schedule friendlies with the World Cup Hosts. It's an IC thing. I hope you understand.

It says a lot of stuff about how to debug it. Java. a million things three times. and javax and stuff. It did the same thing on my sister and her fiances.

Any way Arozza you can take Greals spot. Il just drop him from my schedule.
Pre Qual My Place.

Mid Dahanjeiguk still up. Thats a mier rivalry it has to stay Dae.
Post Starblaydia is still open also for anyone who wants to unless Star says yes soon.

It says a lot of stuff about how to debug it. Java. a million things three times. and javax and stuff. It did the same thing on my sister and her fiances.

Unfortunately, that accurately describes pretty much all of the error messages. Could you maybe copy the first two or three lines of it in here?

Java.io.FileInputStream.ope(NativeMethod)
java.ioFileInputStream.<input>.(Unknown Source)
java.util.Scanner.<init>(unknown Source)

Arroza, I only schedule friendlies with the World Cup Hosts. It's an IC thing. I hope you understand.

No big deal. At least I'm slowly figuring out how to spell.

This is an official note from The Taeshan soccer League to all intrnational players.(means anybody in thw world) is anybody interested in moving to Taeshan and playing for one of the forty Taeshani Teams.

Mid Dahanjeiguk still up. Thats a mier rivalry it has to stay Dae.

umm, i've sent a message to the hosts, confirming this. as far as i am aware, the hosts are aware of this as well.

okay. Now ive gotta wait for Star...^^^^

The Most Holy Representative Football Team of Magna Sancta Sedes wishes to invite a member of the Dreamed Realm to compete against the Most Holy Representative Football Team of Magna Sancta Sedes at a neutral venue (tbd). The friendly would be post-qualifier.

IC - Following the Holy Synod of the Archregimancy's refusal to even consider a 'friendly' against a bunch of saint-stealing schismatics, the Holy Empire Football Association has decided to accept the friendly instead.


OOC - Rosters for both Dreamed Realm teams should go up on Monday or Tuesday; RL has intervened over the last 2-3 days, but I should be back to full participation by mid-week.

Just wondering when the qualifying will began...:wink:

I need the attention of everyone to a thing:

Sel Appa's and Legalese's sign-ups weren't put in the first page of the WC42 sign-ups thread and, as I was keep tracking of the sign-ups by it, I didn't count them in the number of sign-ups.

But now I've noticed my mistake, and will correct this.

Both Sel Appa and Legalese will be included in the WC, and An Blascaod Mor will return too. Cokenia's late sign-up will be accepted, and we'll have 86 countries signed-up.

This means that we'll have 12 groups of 7 in this WC, which draw will be tomorrow as planned. Top 2 are automatically qualified, 3rd placed ones to play a playoff.

Pre-qualifying friendlies will be scorinated on Tuesday, and MD1 of the qualifiers on Wednesday.

Sorry for making this mistake, I hope you understand the reasons.

So apparently Jolt has a language filter now, and one of my WC42 squad members' names falls afoul of it. So just be aware that if my midfielder #7 (who is part of the starting XI) performs an activity in a match, you may have difficulty referring to him by his first name (thanks to CH for the trick that allowed it to display properly in the roster post).

Just another example of why sometimes Jolt should really just leave well enough alone... *rolls eyes*

Pre-qualifying friendlies will be scorinated on Tuesday, and MD1 of the qualifiers on Wednesday.

Approximately, what will the time of day be when you guys scorinate?

Due to Hurricane Fay, which is quite possibly, maybe, sorta, kinda probably is heading my way, I might not be on the forums after tommorrow night, but then again, I might. (Damn hurricane, go hit Belize or Panama or Greenland.)

Arroza, It has nothing to do with you mispelling my name. I just only ask for freindlies with the World Cup hosts, and have done so for the past few WC's.

Due to Hurricane Fay, which is quite possibly, maybe, sorta, kinda probably is heading my way, I might not be on the forums after tommorrow night, but then again, I might. (Damn hurricane, go hit Belize or Panama or Greenland.)

Maybe if everyone in Florida faces the ocean and blows as hard as they can, they can push the hurricane off towards Pensacola. We need this storm, we're 13 inches below average rainfall this year in the upstate.

You are 41st.

And on an unrelated note, I think I am beginning to go through that thing called RP burnout I've heard so much about.....

Yeah thanks mate.

I've tried to send the e-mail twice, for the friendly and it keeps coming back as undeliverable.

Arroza, Dancougar confirmed your friendly, but without saying the time and place. Send me a TG, then, and I'll tell Oli of the friendly.

Group 1:
Jeruselem
Kiryu-Shi
Icy Cold Death Touch
The Archregimancy
Ixania
Magna Sancta Sedes
Sel Appa

That's a funny coincidence ... and Jeru FC had to end up with group with Star in it too.

Group 1:
Jeruselem
Kiryu-Shi
Icy Cold Death Touch
The Archregimancy
Ixania
Magna Sancta Sedes
Sel Appa

That's a funny coincidence ... and Jeru FC had to end up with group with Star in it too.

that's what i said!

that's what i said!

I'm expecting jokes about the priest, the monk and the Ho now ... :)

Answering Newmanistan's question, the scorination time for both hosts is approximately at 02:00 GMT time (or between 01:00 to 03:00 if issues happen).

Due to Hurricane Fay, which is quite possibly, maybe, sorta, kinda probably is heading my way, I might not be on the forums after tommorrow night, but then again, I might. (Damn hurricane, go hit Belize or Panama or Greenland.)

Well Fay is turning out to be nothing but a bunch of wind and rain and not much else. Stupid Tropical Storm.

Well Fay is turning out to be nothing but a bunch of wind and rain and not much else. Stupid Tropical Storm.

It's better than one which washes ye house into the nearest body of water.

I drew Yafor 2 again great. Wentland, The Turks. At least i should beat Solenial(no offense brotha) Legelese, and Roddyville. But then again im not very good when i should be.

I hate this always having to play my puppet. It gets old you know, quite old!

Ive never played Kosovoe myself. except in the Olympics and WBCS.

I would like to wish everyone good luck.

I am confused by the lists of group matches, who I'm I playing first?

I would like to wish everyone good luck.

I am confused by the lists of group matches, who I'm I playing first?

Since Greal are listed third, (hint: just concentrate on that part and note that Home teams are usually listed 1ST) here is your schedule:

20/8 (wed) - qualifying MD01 @ Nuevos Aires
21/8 (thu) - qualifying MD02 vs Bostopia
22/8 (fri) - qualifying MD03 @ Prux
23/8 (sat) - qualifying MD04 vs. Arroza
24/8 (sun) - qualifying MD05 @ Land de Wood
25/8 (mon) - qualifying MD06 OFF DAY/BYE
26/8 (tue) - qualifying MD07 vs. Bazalonia
27/8 (wed) - mid-qualifying friendlies (Caf)
28/8 (thu) - qualifying MD08 vs Nuevos Aires
29/8 (fri) - qualifying MD09 @ Bostopia
30/8 (sat) - qualifying MD10 vs Prux
31/8 (sun) - qualifying MD11 @ Arroza
1/9 (mon) - qualifying MD12 vs Land de Wood
2/9 (tue) - qualifying MD13 OFF DAY/BYE
3/9 (wed) - qualifying MD14 @ Bazalonia

Hope that helps ya.

Any other questions, just ask. that's what the thread is for. sometimes :rolleyes: