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Shouldn't the hosts be getting up a Pre-WC 39 RP thread up soon?

Shouldn't the hosts be getting up a Pre-WC 39 RP thread up soon?

I think that depends on the hosts, I noticed some cups had the pre-WC and WC RP thread as the same thread.

I think that depends on the hosts, I noticed some cups had the pre-WC and WC RP thread as the same thread.

Hope it comes up soon.

Shouldn't the hosts be getting up a Pre-WC 39 RP thread up soon?
The hosts work in mysterious ways :p

World Cup 39—roleplay thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547989)
World Cup 39—roster thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547990)

Success! I've figured out how to reply to topics on jolt at work! (The usual reply to topic button doesn't show.)

Also: WC RP thread! Woo!

Success! I've figured out how to reply to topics on jolt at work!

You sad, sad person, checking NS at work, of all places.

*hurriedly clicks reply then closes window and goes back to work*

"You sad, sad person, checking NS at work, of all places."

What's sad about that? It means he has a job where he can do some amount of dicking around. That's better than the opposite of just working.

he has a job where he can do some amount of dicking around.

Never a truer word said. I can't get onto nationstates.net though, work filters block it as it's a "game". Which it's not. NS IS REAL!

...NS IS REAL!

Damn right it is!

anyone up for a preWCQ friendly with good ol Acapais?

Never a truer word said. I can't get onto nationstates.net though, work filters block it as it's a "game". Which it's not. NS IS REAL!

Choose (http://www.proxy.org) your weapon.

anyone up for a preWCQ friendly with good ol Acapais?

Why not, we're game!

anyone up for a preWCQ friendly with good ol Acapais?

Oo We are, and we have a notoriously drunk travelling support so as long as the Acapais authorities are ok with letting in several thousand Sortherners in donkey costumes we're looking for an away game.

Choose (http://www.proxy.org) your weapon.
You are now responsible if I fail college. Thank you. :D

The army losers are up for friendlies if people want to have 10-0 wins.

The Supermarket will play the Jeru army. Because we're not looking good for any other opponents for at least another WC.

Qazox would like to continue its traditional friendlies with the co-hosts.

Unified Capitalizt States (Pre-qualifers) and Valanora (Mid-qualifers) if possible.

Bostopia would like to play Cadarnia, pre-qualifying, at a neutral venue.

Ta much.

Taeshan wishes the following friendlies:qazox, green wombat, SN, Ashlaea, Daehanjeiguk, the supermarket

Ashlaea:Jeru fc, the supermarket and acapais

The Supermarket will only be playing one game per RL day maximum. The manager says that we can't close any more often than that for games.

Qazox would like to continue its traditional friendlies with the co-hosts.

Unified Capitalizt States (Pre-qualifers) and Valanora (Mid-qualifers) if possible.
Capitalizt SLANI has already booked a pre-qualifying friendly with Kura-Pelland, but is open for a mid-qualifying friendly—played in the UCS or Qazox?

Cafundéu open for friendlies, as ever.

Confirming friendlies for Jeru FC ... yeah ... doesn't bother Jeru FC where.

Jeruselem is requesting a friendly against Ariddia.
Ariddian WC38 coach (Jeruselem) vs the new Ariddian coach!

Taeshan wishes the following friendlies:SN

The SNFA are pleased to accept the enquiry of a friendly between the Sorthern Northland national football team and have earmarked Estadio Fidel Castro in the Southeastern city of Castrograd as a possible venue for the friendly.

All that is left now is to decide when the game will take place before qualfying or during the mid-qualifying break?

Cafundéu open for friendlies, as ever.

Oh need info on Alfredo Neves for Jeru FC (he's got the job).

Cafundeu - prequalfying friendly?
Qazox - perhaps

Oo We are, and we have a notoriously drunk travelling support so as long as the Acapais authorities are ok with letting in several thousand Sortherners in donkey costumes we're looking for an away game.


You are now responsible if I fail college. Thank you. :D

*whistles innocently*

The Supermarket will play the Jeru army. Because we're not looking good for any other opponents for at least another WC.

You have the most awesome nation name I've seen, as well as nation concept.

[QUOTE=Sel Appa;13394523You have the most awesome nation name I've seen, as well as nation concept.[/QUOTE]

* Prepares bad shopping jokes *

*whistles innocently*



You have the most awesome nation name I've seen, as well as nation concept.

At least it won't be accused of losing our bottle in games. Cos we've got loads of them. Soda, ketchup, vinegar...

This joke is courtesy of the (former) Schiavone Department of Happiness, Parties and Bad Jokes.

* Prepares bad shopping jokes *

You mean you hadn't prepared them already? I'm disappointed.

Squornshelous requests our usual friendly with Az-cz sometime in the midst of qualifying. Can't remember at the moment whose turn it is to host.

The Pschychoes are also open to playing friendlies with most any other nation.

Cafundeu - prequalfying friendly?
Qazox - perhaps

Capitalizt SLANI has already booked a pre-qualifying friendly with Kura-Pelland, but is open for a mid-qualifying friendly—played in the UCS or Qazox?

Taeshan wishes the following friendlies:qazox, green wombat, SN, Ashlaea, Daehanjeiguk, the supermarket

Ashlaea:Jeru fc, the supermarket and acapais

Not a problem for me:

Before the World Cup: @ ESF/Valanora (which ever country is appropriate)
vs. taeshan
Mid-Cup friendlies: @ UCS

Taeshan wishes the following friendlies:qazox, green wombat, SN, Ashlaea, Daehanjeiguk, the supermarket

Ashlaea:Jeru fc, the supermarket and acapais

Green wombat accepts (Pre Cup). we'll play in taeshan, if that's all right w/ you?

We'd also like to play Prux in a home-away series before the World Cup.

We'd also like to play Prux in a home-away series before the World Cup.

Fine with me... prepare to be crushed by the PWF!!!

The Pschychoes are also open to playing friendlies with most any other nation.

Vephrall is ready and willing mid-qualifying, provided we host it.

Not a problem for me:

Before the World Cup: @ ESF/Valanora (which ever country is appropriate)
vs. taeshan
Mid-Cup friendlies: @ UCS

I said perhaps, not for sure. And it would be Valanora

I said perhaps, not for sure. And it would be Valanora

Valanora it is then, IF the match takes place.

You have the most awesome nation name I've seen

Was I in the running before they came along?:p

The Gnomes of course accept the challenge from the Pschychoes. A rematch of the finals is always interesting.

The Gnomes would like to challenge there other regular sparring partners: Ariddia and Bettia as well. They could also be tempted into playing other elite teams (top 10 or so).

If there's anyone left, the Big Blues would appreciate a pre-qual home friendly against anyone (within reason) in the top 40 or so, and a mid-qual away against anyone lower ranked than us (27th).

Mr Lyndon Hernández (and Candelaria And Marquez) are welcome (back) to Liverpool England to play against Ad'ihan pre-qualifying...

I accept Valanora's challenge. You can choose the place.

I'd like to play a friendly against Candelaria And Marquez (will send a TG).

In a revolting flip-flop on the CAMAFA's previous request, C&M would be delighted to play Ad'ihan away pre-qualifying and Cafundéu at home mid-qualifying.

Hay guys how does teh friendly's work??????!!!!1111

So... I guess since Dancougar is still a weenie football country (currently Baptism of Firing, woo!), and extra games for experience are always good, a friendly or two might not be a bad idea. Although, our status probably marks us as "fresh meat" or the local equivalent. Willing to travel to hostile stadiums for educational beatdowns and the occasional spark of brilliance.

So... I guess since Dancougar is still a weenie football country (currently Baptism of Firing, woo!), and extra games for experience are always good, a friendly or two might not be a bad idea. Although, our status probably marks us as "fresh meat" or the local equivalent. Willing to travel to hostile stadiums for educational beatdowns and the occasional spark of brilliance.

Bostopia would like to invite you to the Bostopia Arena, in Fort Boston for a friendly game.

Bostopia would like to invite you to the Bostopia Arena, in Fort Boston for a friendly game.

And Sorthern Northland invites Bostopia to Beningrad for an exhibition game during the mid-qualification break. We would use the term friendly but we think that term would be unsuitable given the ideological differences of our peoples.

The SNFA has also expressed an interest in travelling to the nations of Dancougar, Candelaria And Marquez, and Hopeless SC for friendly games.

Jeruselem is requesting a friendly against Ariddia.
Ariddian WC38 coach (Jeruselem) vs the new Ariddian coach!

The new Ariddian coach being an Ariddian-Archregimancy...ian...ite.

OK for one friendly, but as you know I'm in quasi-retirement from NS, and I don't check NS every day (or even every other day), so... I can't exactly guarentee timely RPing.

Pfft, if you have to say it, it's not true. :p

We'd also like to state that while disinterested in football friendlies, we'd happy play in friendly in any other sport you wish.

Bostopia would like to play Cadarnia, pre-qualifying, at a neutral venue.

Ta much.

Yeah if we can get a friendly going that would be great, and a neutral venue, yeah we'd need that

Bostopia would like to invite you to the Bostopia Arena, in Fort Boston for a friendly game.

If you could work us in, that would be awesome.

As a general point of information, teams have two friendly slots, one before quals and one during?

The new Ariddian coach being an Ariddian-Archregimancy...ian...ite.

OK for one friendly, but as you know I'm in quasi-retirement from NS, and I don't check NS every day (or even every other day), so... I can't exactly guarentee timely RPing.

That's alright. I just want the game to happen, since you're not going be around alot.

Was I in the running before they came along?:p

The Committee of Awesome Names and Concepts thought your bid would be Hopeless and didn't bother.

Friendly requests:
@ Bostopia
@ or vs. Prux--he can pick

And Sorthern Northland invites Bostopia to Beningrad for an exhibition game during the mid-qualification break. We would use the term friendly but we think that term would be unsuitable given the ideological differences of our peoples.

The SNFA has also expressed an interest in travelling to the nations of Dancougar, Candelaria And Marquez, and Hopeless SC for friendly games.

Bostopia accepts, sets tackling to Hard

Vephrall is ready and willing mid-qualifying, provided we host it.

Accepted.


According to the WC38 Scores Thread Az-cz hosted the Pschychoes-Gnomes friendly during that tourney, so we will host it this time around.

The Committee of Awesome Names and Concepts thought your bid would be Hopeless and didn't bother.

Friendly requests:
@ Bostopia


God bless the annual Sel Appa - Bostopia friendly. It gives us an excuse to stomp hippies and minority groups after yet another loss... :)

In other words, we accept :p

The SNFA has also expressed an interest in travelling to the nations of Dancougar, Candelaria And Marquez, and Hopeless SC for friendly games.

Do you have a preference for before or during quals?

Do you have a preference for before or during quals?

I think we currently have more mid-qualification friendlies than pre-qualification so before the qualifying campaign gets under way would be better for us.

After 17 months, the latest update to the widely-popular NSFS scorinator is here!

That makes it sound really big, but I won't lie, I definitely haven't been working on this update for that whole time. :p

Anyway, you can pick it up here (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/nsfs/nsfs202.zip).

I think we currently have more mid-qualification friendlies than pre-qualification so before the qualifying campaign gets under way would be better for us.

Before it is, then. I guess I poke Elves now? (I will eventually figure out how this all works, I promise :-D)

After 17 months, the latest update to the widely-popular NSFS scorinator is here!

That makes it sound really big, but I won't lie, I definitely haven't been working on this update for that whole time. :p

Anyway, you can pick it up here (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/nsfs/nsfs202.zip).

So you're a bigshot Java programmer? :D

we accept all games given(wow a lot accepted, busy days)

Before it is, then. I guess I poke Elves now? (I will eventually figure out how this all works, I promise :-D)

Yep, send a TG to one of the hosts telling them the details of the game and they should do the rest.

The SNFA has also expressed an interest in travelling to the nations of Dancougar, Candelaria And Marquez, and Hopeless SC for friendly games.

The nation of Hopeless SC would be glad to invite the respectable nation of Sorthern Northland to our nation for a pre-qualifying friendly.

And to be honest...we're a bit flattered that they'd want to come to our humble nation after our pre-CoH 30 prediction that they'd win it, and promptly fell flat on their faces in their opening match.:p

The new Ariddian coach being an Ariddian-Archregimancy...ian...ite.


Nice to see that not everyone's forgotten the existence of the Monastic Republic in the current flurry of Dreamed Realm-free friendly invitations.

For the record, there is no official adjective for a resident of the Archregimancy as the Archregimancy doesn't have citizens. Any monks from countries other than the Holy Empire are automatically granted mandatory Imperial citizenship, though they're free to maintain citizenship of their home country (always assuming, of course, that said country has a formal citizenship).

So in this case, Fr. Innocent is 'an Ariddian monk of the Archregimancy'.

<sigh>

I miss regular contributions from Ari; I miss Erri too.

We'd also like to state that while disinterested in football friendlies, we'd happy play in friendly in any other sport you wish.Do you have broomball in Casari?

Heh, someone must play it around here, as it is rather fun. Even if they don't, I'm sure we could come up with some people to play.

Well, anything other than soccer, it seems. That's not going the best.

The Turkic Shahdom - Most Recent Government Activity: 27 days ago

*Prays that they haven't gone on holiday mode. Even though he is atheist.*

Heh, someone must play it around here, as it is rather fun. Even if they don't, I'm sure we could come up with some people to play.

Well, anything other than soccer, it seems. That's not going the best.

Err, some of the Jeruselem squad can play tennis too. :p
All the Dallas girls play tennis.

two quick questions:

how soon after the BoF final will the rankings be released?

and

how soon after the BoF final will the draw be?

obrigado, bitches. (i don't think any of you guys are bitches; i just thought that would sound cool)

A1: When someone does it, hopefully soon.
A2: Check the first post of the WC39 RP thread it has times/dates listed.

Hey, we'll play tennis. We tend to prefer the clay courts though.

Host Note

For any and all friendlies, please TG them to Valanora not ESF, thank you.

"The Women's Headquarters for Implementation of National Guidelines for Equality ... WHINGE??? Funny. Funnier if you dropped the G from the acronym. ie: Women's Headquarters for Implementation of National Equality= WHINE. either way still funny.

Host Note

For any and all friendlies, please TG them to Valanora not ESF, thank you.

You could post as Valanora so people know what to do. You posted as ESF and called yourself Valanora for awhile.

Speaking of which, why does ESF get to keep his points as Valanora, especially if Valanora is a separate entity (from an NS standpoint). To allow that is like saying that with a little RP work, Vephrall could have inherited Bedistan's ranking points, Ad'ihan could have gained LE's , and that I could have transferred my points to Novapsolu.

I submit that Valanora should be treated as a separate entity.

I second that!

And that's not even down to the fact that I don't want to inherit Schiavonia's points after the WC37 80 point deduction. Which was also done wrongly, by the way, but as I couldn't care less, there's no real harm done.

Jeez, you go away for two cups and chaos ensues...

Speaking of which, why does ESF get to keep his points as Valanora, especially if Valanora is a separate entity (from an NS standpoint). To allow that is like saying that with a little RP work, Vephrall could have inherited Bedistan's ranking points, Ad'ihan could have gained LE's , and that I could have transferred my points to Novapsolu.

I submit that Valanora should be treated as a separate entity.

I'm not sure, but I think Valanora's not actually going to be doing the RPing. It's like the UCS, as I understand it.

If Valanora is actually signed up itself as host that'd be a different matter.

WHINGE??? Funny. Funnier if you dropped the G from the acronym. ie: Women's Headquarters for Implementation of National Equality= WHINE. either way still funny.

"Whinge" is a valid [British slang] word which carries the same meaning as "whine".

By the way, sign ups news. The Turkic Shahdom has ceased, leaving one open spot in WC39. Which currently goes to... um, KP's puppet.

*Begs KP and the hosts to let his large shop enter the cup*

By the way, sign ups news. The Turkic Shahdom has ceased, leaving one open spot in WC39. Which currently goes to... um, KP's puppet.

*Begs KP and the hosts to let his large shop enter the cup*
As per my post in the signup thread, you get the remaining spot, since KP’s puppet is just that—a puppet.

*Goes to open a bottle of champagne, but realises that it might end up in his squad.*

"Whinge" is a valid [British slang] word which carries the same meaning as "whine".

British slang makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm not sure, but I think Valanora's not actually going to be doing the RPing. It's like the UCS, as I understand it.

If Valanora is actually signed up itself as host that'd be a different matter.

Somebody should explain things so we don't have confusion about this going into the WC. Is this another Yafor 2/The Gupta Dynasty situation or what?

I'm not sure, but I think Valanora's not actually going to be doing the RPing. It's like the UCS, as I understand it.

If Valanora is actually signed up itself as host that'd be a different matter.

Considering that:

a) He's been referring to himself as Valanora for at least the previous cup, if not before, while using the ranking/guise of ESF

b) Valanora does, in fact, seem to exist, as the request is for TGs to go to Valanora, not ESF

c) CH and AIF's situations don't really apply here, as they retained their nations, yet have gone by their first part. (i.e. the full NS name of the nation known as UCS or CH on here is "The Unified Capitalizt States of Commerce Heights", as AIF, in going by The Holy Empire is in full: "The Holy Empire of Alasdair I Frosticus"). Heck, even TLC used to refer to himself as The Allied States at times, as in "The Allied States of The Lowland Clans". if A and B above are both accurate, which I believe they are, then this is a different case than those.

That said, I'll admit I'm not exactly on a crusade here; it just seemed inaccurate, not to mention even more confusing than CH's situation (though the New Manhattan forum moniker isn't his fault).

If this about me using Valanora to recieve TGs, the only reason I requested for the TGs to be sent to Valanora is because my TG box with ESF is nearly full and it has information that I need and don't want deleted by an influx of TGs that could go to an account that have none.

Somebody should explain things so we don't have confusion about this going into the WC. Is this another Yafor 2/The Gupta Dynasty situation or what?

Well if people actually READ my posts back two Cups ago, then they would know what the situation is. As such, I'll explain it again.

Valanora is an IC government that rules over the countries of Vyinta, Elves Security Forces, Assegai Developments, and Turruth Gordur. The former both being nations of mine, who this was done for regional board RP purposes. The latter are nations of a friend of mine who decided to quit the WC but wanted his players to continue on. I merely created the account on NS for the purposes of my region board, as it is required.

Hopefully this clears up any confusion and will put the issue to rest.

To allow that is like saying that with a little RP work, Vephrall could have inherited Bedistan's ranking points

Well...

(a) Vephrall has absolutely no IC connection to Bedistan whatsoever, apart from the fact that the current assistant manager of the national football team played on the last few Bedistani national squads. The Valanora situation has an IC basis.

(b) It's irrelevant anyway, as Bedistan had already fallen to 0 KPB points by the time Vephrall arrived on the scene. :p

Well if people actually READ my posts back two Cups ago, then they would know what the situation is. As such, I'll explain it again.

Valanora is an IC government that rules over the countries of Vyinta, Elves Security Forces, Assegai Developments, and Turruth Gordur. The former both being nations of mine, who this was done for regional board RP purposes. The latter are nations of a friend of mine who decided to quit the WC but wanted his players to continue on. I merely created the account on NS for the purposes of my region board, as it is required.

Hopefully this clears up any confusion and will put the issue to rest.

Whatever happened to having one stable main nation that kept itself and didn't change names...

Whatever happened to having one stable main nation that kept itself and didn't change names...
That went out of fashion quite a while ago… :p

That went out of fashion quite a while ago… :p

Yes, it's the make-over fad of NS WC nations! :p
I'll just stick to growing old disgracefully.

Yes, it's the make-over fad of NS WC nations! :p
I'll just stick to growing old disgracefully.

Same here..

damn wanna-be newbs...

British slang makes no sense whatsoever.

Stop whingeing.

Stop whingeing.

You stop win-jing.

Aye, and we wonder why people aren't signing up anymore.

British slang makes no sense whatsoever.
Our language. Whatever next? Gaol spelt with a j?

Hey, we'll play tennis. We tend to prefer the clay courts though.

Some Jeruselemites will play a bit of tennis in Casari if we somehow bump into each other. Err, for promotional purposes of course.

Same here..

damn wanna-be newbs...

Yeah, damn them! Anyone who's started again less than three times obviously isn't trying enough!

Yes, it's the make-over fad of NS WC nations! :p
I'll just stick to growing old disgracefully.

And the moral of this tale:

DON'T let Ty Pennington play NS.

Somebody should explain things so we don't have confusion about this going into the WC. Is this another Yafor 2/The Gupta Dynasty situation or what?

Bah, I actually have a bug on my Yafor 2 account. Grr.

*goes off and grumbles*

And yes, I know you all know that already.

Our language. Whatever next? Gaol spelt with a j?

Jail makes more sense than gaol.

or lifts being called elevators? (THE proper term, since the elevator was invented in the US.)

or crisps being called crackers?

Or lorries beign called trucks?

I think we should just split ENGLISH into 3 separate languanges: BRITISH, AMERICAN, AND CANUCK.

That way we all can keep our wierd versions of English, w/out anyone claiming this way is better.

Also a question for those of you across the pond. why is spelling COLOUR with a U easier than COLOR? You're wasting you pens and pencils out faster that way!!! And that Zed thing.... why isn't your alphabet pronounced this way then:

A
Bed
Ced
Ded
E
F
Ged
H
I
J
K
L
M
N
O
Ped
Q
R
S
Ted
U
Ved
W
X
Y
Zed
???

Languages are rarely consistent between nations. For example, as someone who learned my French in Belgium, I will always say 'nonante' instead of 'quatre-vingt dix'. I would imagine that Cafundeu can provide us with any number of differences between Portuguese in Brazil and Portugal. Our resident Korean could probably comment on the differences between Korean as spoken in Pyongyang and Seoul. I'm personally well placed to comment on the differences between UK, US, and Australian English since I've lived in all three countries; that they exist has never stopped me from communicating with anyone.

Can I gently suggest that instead of pointless irrelevant carping over linguistic differences - none of which, I regret, is doing much to increase the reputations of either Sel Appa or Qazox - agree to disagree over spellings, and return the focus of this thread to the subject that it's actually supposed to be about. This is worse than the past attempts to turn this thread into a baseball discussion.

Aye, and we wonder why people aren't signing up anymore.

Quite.

I'm really getting grumpy these days, aren't I?


Incidentally, I'm likely to be in Brussels for part of World Cup 39, and this may impact my ability to RP for a few days around the 16th Feb.

I'm really getting grumpy these days, aren't I?

You hosted a World Cup under that platform, didn't you?

Languages are rarely consistent between nations. For example, as someone who learned my French in Belgium, I will always say 'nonante' instead of 'quatre-vingt dix'.

QUATRE-VINGT-TREIZE!... oops, wrong reference :P

Jail makes more sense than gaol.

Only from a pronunciation perspective. It comes from the same root as "cave".

Only from a pronunciation perspective. It comes from the same root as "cave".

Which looks nothing like either.

You hosted a World Cup under that platform, didn't you?

And there types someone quite incapable of getting anything even closely related to the point.

Sel, not so long ago I was defending you as having some potential if you could only learn to control yourself.

So let me type out a little equation for you.

(self-restraint) + (diminished logorrhea) = (increased respect)

Translated, this means people will probably pay more attention to what you have to say if you can somehow bring yourself to stop typing pointless one sentence replies to every post on this thread.

Including this one.

Bah, I actually have a bug on my Yafor 2 account. Grr.

*goes off and grumbles*

And yes, I know you all know that already.

Exactly. We know why you sign-up under one name and RP under another. That's why I used you for my example. Some of us haven't been around long enough/haven't paid enough attention to understand the situation we were trying to clear up.

Languages are rarely consistent between nations. For example, as someone who learned my French in Belgium, I will always say 'nonante' instead of 'quatre-vingt dix'. I would imagine that Cafundeu can provide us with any number of differences between Portuguese in Brazil and Portugal.

Yes, there are so many of them. And some of the differences between Brazilian Portuguese and the Portuguese of Portugal (it'd be strange to say "Portuguese Portuguese") can lead to some funny and/or strange situations.

In football, for example, if you want to say that the defender "pulled the shirt of the attacker".

In Brazil, you say: "O defensor puxou a camisa do atacante".

In Portugal, you'd say: "O defensor puxou a camisola do avançado".

The interesting fact is that, in Brazil, the word camisola means nightgown, not shirt.

But there are differences in the language even between the regions here in Brazil. The most used words to refer to something in the São Paulo state, for example, is different than the ones in other states, as Rio de Janeiro, Bahia, Rio Grande do Sul, Ceará, Pará, etc...

The interesting fact is that, in Brazil, the word camisola means nightgown, not shirt.

Might explain why the Portuguese keep diving then...(thinking they're going to bed :p) (and I'm aware Caf said it means nightgown in Brazil, not Portugal :) I just needed to attempt to rip the Portuguese.)

Yes, there are so many of them. And some of the differences between Brazilian Portuguese and the Portuguese of Portugal (it'd be strange to say "Portuguese Portuguese") can lead to some funny and/or strange situations.

In football, for example, if you want to say that the defender "pulled the shirt of the attacker".

In Brazil, you say: "O defensor puxou a camisa do atacante".

In Portugal, you'd say: "O defensor puxou a camisola do avançado".

The interesting fact is that, in Brazil, the word camisola means nightgown, not shirt.

But there are differences in the language even between the regions here in Brazil. The most used words to refer to something in the São Paulo state, for example, is different than the ones in other states, as Rio de Janeiro, Bahia, Rio Grande do Sul, Ceará, Pará, etc...

What is the influence of Spanish (not Portugese) in Brazil?

or lifts being called elevators? (THE proper term, since the elevator was invented in the US.)

or crisps being called crackers?

Or lorries beign called trucks?

I think we should just split ENGLISH into 3 separate languanges: BRITISH, AMERICAN, AND CANUCK.

That way we all can keep our wierd versions of English, w/out anyone claiming this way is better.

You've missed a few.

BRITISH would realistically have to be split into ENGLISH, IRISH, SCOTTISH, and WELSH, and in addition to AMERICAN and CANNUCK, you'd need OZZIE and KIWI.

You've missed a few.

BRITISH would realistically have to be split into ENGLISH, IRISH, SCOTTISH, and WELSH, and in addition to AMERICAN and CANNUCK, you'd need OZZIE and KIWI.

Don't forget Denglish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch) !

Official pre-World Cup 39 rankings:
OpenDocument spreadsheet (http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/worldcup/rankings/preWC39/)

Text version (teams in blue are World Cup 39 participants):
1 Az-cz 54.79
2 Valanora 51.50
3 Sel Appa 47.50
4 Capitalizt SLANI 47.29
5 Squornshelous 46.21
6 Ariddia 46.07
7 Tynelia 41.64
8 Zwangzug 40.21
9 Milchama 39.57
10 Demot 39.50
11 Errinundera 38.43
12 Cafundéu 37.86
13 Bettia 33.71
14 Jeruselem 31.50
15 Wentland 31.00
16 Quakmybush 28.64
17 The Holy Empire 27.71
18 Northern Bettia 27.57
19 Oliverry 26.86
20 Bostopia 24.71
21 Bazalonia 24.21
22 Qazox 22.64
23 Jasīʼyūn 22.57
24 Novapsolu 22.51
25 Turori 22.00
26 Yafor 2 21.37
27 Candelaria And Marquez 20.42
28 Vephrall 20.11
29 Vilita 19.43
30 Ulzaxid 19.37
31 Ad’ihan 19.29
32 Kura-Pelland 16.83
33 Geisenfried 16.43
34 The Archregimancy 16.32
35 Schiavonia 15.79
36 Lovisa 15.68
37 Dance 2 Revolution 14.99
38 Estresse Intenso 14.52
39 Kiryu-shi 14.15
40 Daehanjeiguk 13.08
41 Sorthern Northland 13.00
42 Endmile 12.56
43 St Samuel 11.95
44 The Lowland Clans 11.64
45 Kansiov 11.00
46 Casari 10.44
47 Cookesland 9.87
48 Taeshan 9.48
49 Jeru FC 8.61
50 Scotchpinestan 8.58
51 The Islands of Qutar 8.30
52 Uiri 7.09
53 The Pazhujeb Islands 6.94
54 Minilla Island 6.93
55 Aurendia 6.57
56 The HURD 6.50
57 Starblaydia 6.31
58 Kelssek 6.17
59 Nire and Nire 5.91
60 Rejistania 5.82
61 Vikingholm 5.71
62 Sativaville 5.62
63 Hopeless SC 5.55
64 Green wombat 5.46
65 Oickodia 5.29
66 Limbrogidlia 5.21
67 Solenial 5.04
68 Assegai Developments 5.00
69 Prux 4.77
70 Krytenia 4.64
71 Vanek Drury Brieres 4.57
72 Grotewohl 4.33
73 Magnus Valerius 4.18
74 Swilatia 4.14
75 British Londinium 4.11
76 Miceland 4.02
77 Fmjphoenix 4.00
78 Jariss 3.991
79 95X 3.987
80 Bushes Been Quaked 3.93
81 San Adriano 3.89
82 Kristovenia 3.85
83 Alversia 3.66
84 Onimar 3.55
85 Vuam and Isma 3.43
86 The Non-RPing N00b 3.29
87 Patusan 3.21
88 Rugiero 3.07
89 Abu Omar 3.00
90 Atheistic Right 2.93
91 Merovis 2.92
92 Billopesha 2.80
93 Dancougar 2.71
New Brittonia 2.71
95 New Morrisia 2.60
Tuaim 2.60
97 Turruth Gordur 2.57
Delesa 2.29
Recluse Island 2.29
100 Spaam 2.18
101 Bonto 2.14
Miamoria 2.14
Samcoa 2.14
104 Thundercliffe 2.06
105 East Lithuania 2.00
Konora 2.00
Miroxia 2.00
Spruitland 2.00
Tremarendakia 2.00
Yafalonia and Bazor 2 2.00
111 Audioslavia 1.95
112 Mallatarsland 1.90
113 Bumiroar 1.81
114 Acapais 1.71
Barbeques 1.71
The Crescent Republic 1.71
Kampfers 1.71
Rastafariburg 1.71
119 Boyancy 1.57
The Indonesian States 1.57
Integrite 1.57
122 Bergelland 1.49
Lake Arrowhead 1.43
Zyla 1.43
125 Beer Served Here 1.29
Bercktesgaden 1.29
Gweridijongya 1.29
Naleloospalakintula 1.29
129 Jey 1.27
130 The Coshairs 1.14
131 Bellzantium 1.07
132 Kirrin Island 1.00
133 Keyne Island 0.93
TT Lake Side 0.93
135 Blouman Empire 0.86
Bull_horns_rule 0.86
Komekong 0.86
Naboombu Umbongo 0.86
Nebuleux 0.86
New Montreal States 0.86
Western Afghanistan 0.86
142 The Sons of a Monkey 0.83
143 Central Prestonia 0.79
144 Collonie 0.71
Planting 0.71
Trumanistan 0.71
147 Cebumopolis 0.64
Niosis 0.64
Thelema Abbey 0.64
150 Ikoville 0.59
151 Ashlaea 0.57
Pinguinum 0.57
Tylero 0.57
Wehrmacher 0.57
155 Fargess 0.50
156 Dinos Pizza 0.43
Fujisawan Territories 0.43
Loutra oreas Elenis 0.43
Nitrodymium 0.43
The Turkic Shahdom 0.43
161 ARealAdvance 0.36
Herchimer 0.36
Shmibabway 0.36
164 Ambrose-Douglas 0.29
The Canelandic Islands 0.29
Kilmarnockshire 0.29
Randovium 0.29
Rangpur 0.29
Salkehachie 0.29
Wing Wang Woo 0.29
171 The Comrade Emirates 0.21
Homieville 0.21
173 Kedalfax 0.14
174 Noirthemme 0.07
Shackfold 0.07
176 Cadarnia 0.00
Kalmykstan 0.00
NR Algal states 0.00
Carcim 0.00
Evil Polish Donors 0.00
McPsychoville 0.00
Minilla Island West 0.00
The Supermarket 0.00
Violitism 0.00
Wavispa 0.00

And there types someone quite incapable of getting anything even closely related to the point.

Sel, not so long ago I was defending you as having some potential if you could only learn to control yourself.

So let me type out a little equation for you.

(self-restraint) + (diminished logorrhea) = (increased respect)

Translated, this means people will probably pay more attention to what you have to say if you can somehow bring yourself to stop typing pointless one sentence replies to every post on this thread.

Including this one.

I was just confirming a fact. I don't see how a lecture is relevant.

Looking at the top 40, a few big names missing so I think my Jeru FC can break into the top 40 if it comes close to qualifying. As for actually qualifying, probably not this cup - a 4th to 6th placing.

...
Can I gently suggest that instead of pointless irrelevant carping over linguistic differences - none of which, I regret, is doing much to increase the reputations of either Sel Appa or Qazox - agree to disagree over spellings, and return the focus of this thread to the subject that it's actually supposed to be about. ...

Arch, mine was an attempt at Humor/Humour.

You've missed a few.

BRITISH would realistically have to be split into ENGLISH, IRISH, SCOTTISH, and WELSH, and in addition to AMERICAN and CANNUCK, you'd need OZZIE and KIWI.

Well I can understand the Ozzie and Kiwi, but Scottish, Irish and Welsh each already have their own languanges correct?

BACK ON TOPIC:

#22 in the world= 1st round flameout again LOL (though i hope not.. and i mean that i make the Round of 16)

Looking at the top 40, a few big names missing so I think my Jeru FC can break into the top 40 if it comes close to qualifying. As for actually qualifying, probably not this cup - a 4th to 6th placing.

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say SN will almost certainly break into the top 40 soon. :p

Well I can understand the Ozzie and Kiwi, but Scottish, Irish and Welsh each already have their own languanges correct?


Yep we do, but we can't actually be arsed use them so we bastardise English instead.

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say SN will almost certainly break into the top 40 soon. :p

With a decent Cup run, I might break the top 50. Of course, considering what happened in WC 38, I don't want to get my hopes too high.

Yep we do, but we can't actually be arsed use them so we bastardise English instead.

Which is presumably how one ends up with that wonderful thing called Scots (http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page). ;)

I'm so sad. Apparently Ariddia hasn't deemed me worthy of a friendly and Bettia has disappeared. I guess that means we'll have to challenge Zwangzug to a friendly.

What is the influence of Spanish (not Portugese) in Brazil?

There is a big influence in the southern states of the country (Paraná, Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul), due to the contact with Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. But, in the other states of the country, the influence is very small (indigenous and African languages have more influence in the country, and Italian has some [due to the huge amount of Italian immigrants]).

Most people here think that it's easy to understand Spanish because of the similarities with Portuguese. In fact, you can understand many things, but sometimes this is far from easy (and can lead to funny/embarassing situations too). And, when a Brazilian tries to speak Spanish without knowing it, he ends speaking a "different" language called Portunhol, a "mix" of the two languages (it became more famous when Wanderley Luxemburgo was the coach of Real Madrid, as he didn't speak Spanish).

I'm so sad. Apparently Ariddia hasn't deemed me worthy of a friendly and Bettia has disappeared. I guess that means we'll have to challenge Zwangzug to a friendly.

Grrr.... bloody rubbish work, getting in the way of valuable RPing time. Bastards. Plus I've been farting around on Wikipedia (AKA NSwiki withdrawal symptoms).

In other news... Saints at home in the FA Cup. Not the most glamourous of ties, but winnable. Up the Gas!!!

hey 8 out of top 40 (hopes)

Grrr.... bloody rubbish work, getting in the way of valuable RPing time. Bastards. Plus I've been farting around on Wikipedia (AKA NSwiki withdrawal symptoms).

In other news... Saints at home in the FA Cup. Not the most glamourous of ties, but winnable. Up the Gas!!!

Hmm...United away. In the words of James May, "Oh cock".

Hmm...United away. In the words of James May, "Oh cock".

Welling United are still in the Cup?

And Preston North End away. As Uncle 'Arry said himself, it could have been a lot worse.

I'm going to live to regret saying this, but I just have the sneakiest feeling that this could be a good cup year for us.

There is a big influence in the southern states of the country (Paraná, Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul), due to the contact with Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. But, in the other states of the country, the influence is very small (indigenous and African languages have more influence in the country, and Italian has some [due to the huge amount of Italian immigrants]).

Most people here think that it's easy to understand Spanish because of the similarities with Portuguese. In fact, you can understand many things, but sometimes this is far from easy (and can lead to funny/embarassing situations too). And, when a Brazilian tries to speak Spanish without knowing it, he ends speaking a "different" language called Portunhol, a "mix" of the two languages (it became more famous when Wanderley Luxemburgo was the coach of Real Madrid, as he didn't speak Spanish).

Is it true that Africans are considered "white" in Brazil even if it's diffused like by 15 out of 16 great-great-grandparents?

Brazil is an interesting mix of cultures only permissible in a large country like it, the US, China, and Russia...and India I guess.

Ugh, this week is a train wreck. Now I have to come up with a few weeks of smack talk to spread around school, and I'm swamped already.

BTW: Congrats Dancougar on winning the BoF.

Good luck in the World Cup qualifiers.

I know that since my puppet Sativaville won the BoF (and i can't RP with it anymore) none have made it to the WC in the same 'year'.

So has ANY BoF Champion made it to the WC at all, in the same 'year'?

Bettia,

Was that an acceptance of my friendly proposal?

Bettia,

Was that an acceptance of my friendly proposal?

Oo-ar, lad, that it be, that it be. Your place or mine (ooer!)?

BTW: Congrats Dancougar on winning the BoF.

Good luck in the World Cup qualifiers.

I know that since my puppet Sativaville won the BoF (and i can't RP with it anymore) none have made it to the WC in the same 'year'.

So has ANY BoF Champion made it to the WC at all, in the same 'year'?

The Gogs did!

Heh, I'll be happy if I win a game or two. Feel the wrath of my gut-busting KPB pointage! Less than three, OMG!

hmm a first time ever top seed in the group for Tynelia incoming.

can the team survive such dizzying heights of success and not fail miserably this time around?

is this proof that the New Othydoxic Christian Church of Reborn Othydoxy is the next big thing in soccer realted cults?

will Arch gain the forgiveness of the Lord of Scores for their foul anthema leveled against Him and be granted forgiveness and thus qualify this time?

can the Tynelian government agencies actually stop the spread of the NOCCRO?

will the team change their nicknames from the "Hippos" to something else based on this recent run of success?

tune in this cupo to find out! same Bat-time! same Bat-channel!

ooh Jariss actually still has some KPB points despite missing the last two Cups. hmm could have sworn it was three oh well.

hmm a first time ever top seed in the group for Tynelia incoming.

can the team survive such dizzying heights of success and not fail miserably this time around?

is this proof that the New Othydoxic Christian Church of Reborn Othydoxy is the next big thing in soccer realted cults?

will Arch gain the forgiveness of the Lord of Scores for their foul anthema leveled against Him and be granted forgiveness and thus qualify this time?

can the Tynelian government agencies actually stop the spread of the NOCCRO?

will the team change their nicknames from the "Hippos" to something else based on this recent run of success?

tune in this cupo to find out! same Bat-time! same Bat-channel!

ooh Jariss actually still has some KPB points despite missing the last two Cups. hmm could have sworn it was three oh well.

[IC]

No.

Heretics.

A reminder to everyone whoever wishes to participate, The Qualifying Draw will be held on IRC tonight in #nssport on Espernet @ 3:00 UTC/9pm Central time.

A reminder to everyone whoever wishes to participate, The Qulaifying Draw will be held on IRC tonight in #nssport on Espernet @ 3:00 UTC/9pm Central time.

You mean the QUALIFYING DRAW right?

You mean the QUALIFYING DRAW right?

Obviously not... Only Bazalonia makes such typos...

You mean the QUALIFYING DRAW right?

go away <_<

Anyway, ESF: I suggest that someone tell some people HOW to join IRC... I'm currently in class and can't do that for now (even though it's a boring class about Excel... *watches some open-source advocates die*)

The Quick and Dirty Guide to IRC

The first thing you're going to need is an IRC client. I use XChat (http://www.xchat.org), but I've also found ChatZilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16) to be quite good (and as a bonus, ChatZilla just plugs right into Firefox, making installation trivial if you use that as your browser of choice). Both of those should work on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X.
After you've installed the client, start it up. (In the case of ChatZilla, I believe you'll find it in Tools > Add-ons on the menu bar in Firefox.)
In the case of XChat, you'll be presented with a list of common IRC networks. Unfortunately, the network our channel is on is not in this list, so you'll need to add it. The server is irc.esper.net. Leave all options set to the default and click Close. You'll be back at the network list screen - now choose a nickname (what you'll be shown as in the channel, nation name preferred) and username (just use the same thing, for simplicity's sake). Then click Connect.
On other clients, after starting it up, simply typing /server irc.esper.net should suffice. After you're connected to the server, type /nick <NationName> (in my case, it would be /nick Vephrall).
Once you've connected to the server (and changed nick if necessary), type /join #nssport. And that's it!
When you're ready to leave, just type /quit.


And that should be enough to get you in. :)

Is it true that Africans are considered "white" in Brazil even if it's diffused like by 15 out of 16 great-great-grandparents?

I didn't clearly understand your question, but I'll write something about this to see if it can solve your doubt.

In the Brazilian census or in common surveys, a person has freedom to say to which ethnic group does it belong. This is a complicated situation, because, due to a lamentable racism, that happens even between black people, some black people claim to be white, when of course it isn't the case.

One of the main targets of the current government here is the racial equality, as the black and indigenous people usually suffer with prejudice and/or lack of education (caused mostly by financial problems). This lead to the use of affirmative action programs here that are put in action through quotas for the minorities, something that causes a lot of controversy here (a famous example is the quotas in public universities [that are usually the best of the country] for black people, indigenous and, especially for students coming from public schools [in basic education, the public schools are usually the worst]). The freedom given to a person to say its own ethnic group causes problems in this area.

The Quicker and Cleaner Guide to IRC

1. Go to http://www.esper.net/
2. Click the "Chat Now" button in the top right. Wait for the chat box to load (you'll know it when you see it)
3. Type your nation name in the box in the bottom right. Hit enter.
4. Type /join #nssport in the box in the bottom center.

That's it. :p

Edit for the record: And it might be starting about now!
Edit for World Cup 42: If you don't have Java, there should be a link to the CGI-IRC page from the "Chat Now" page. Also, the chat box sometimes loads halfway for me, so if things don't register immediately when you do step 3 or 4, wait a minute or two and it usually finishes up.

The Quicker and Cleaner Guide to IRC

1. Go to http://www.esper.net/
2. Click the "Chat Now" button in the top right. Wait for the chat box to load (you'll know it when you see it)
3. Type your nation name in the box in the bottom right. Hit enter.
4. Type /join #nssport in the box in the bottom center.

That's it. :p

Edit for the record: And it might be starting about now!

At note to people who try this - MUST LOAD SUN JAVA.
Works fine with JRE 6 Update 3 :)

Ah, draw day. Good Times. :D

Cool, Monks with Jeruselem ... :p

This isn't mentioned in the WC39 RP thread, but am I correct in assuming that the TOP THREE from each group will advance?

This isn't mentioned in the WC39 RP thread, but am I correct in assuming that the TOP THREE from each group will advance?
Yes.

just wanting some feedback, So how's my RPing idea going so far?

I'm guessing that there haven't been too many people trying to mix Wrestling and Soccer in a RP before huh?

I just hope that it works and i'll try not to let it be to repetitive.

For those who enjoyed the English disscussion earlier in this thread, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences

The IFA will accept any and every invitation for a pre-qualifier friendly!

So take it now before we start castrating your ewes!

(if anyone finds the pun, we will kill you)

Han, how about a friendly away to Demot?

Han, how about a friendly away to Demot?

I did say any and every... so sure!

Heh, I'll be happy if I win a game or two. Feel the wrath of my gut-busting KPB pointage! Less than three, OMG!

You have two easy wins coming...against me. My team's confidence will be in the cellar after matches against Bettia and The Holy Empire. Not to mention I have to play the 3rd highest ranked team in the group (Vephrall) right after I play you. That's what you call Margaret smiling down on you. How many rubber chickens did you sacrifice to catch that sort of a break?:p

The IFA will accept any and every invitation for a pre-qualifier friendly!

So take it now before we start castrating your ewes!

(if anyone finds the pun, we will kill you)

I didn't find the pun.. so I live!!!

(damn.. I'm #570 on the list of most posters to Jolt Forums... i don't if i should be :), :( or myself:mp5: )

Qaz, Ewes are female you can't really castrate female sheep.

Qaz, Ewes are female you can't really castrate female sheep.

Is that a challenge?


Anyone seen me marigolds..?

I'm so sad. Apparently Ariddia hasn't deemed me worthy of a friendly and Bettia has disappeared. I guess that means we'll have to challenge Zwangzug to a friendly.

I never saw you ask for one. Of course we can do a friendly. Just don't put your hopes into me RPing it right now.

These hosts fail. Whatever happened to posting all the necessary threads here...?

...
More or less, that works. I think I read in National Geographic that some guy who had really dark skin told a reporter that he was white when the reporter tried to make a joke or something. Interesting nonetheless.
Just more proof that Brazil is not unlike the US.

For those who enjoyed the English disscussion earlier in this thread, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences

I've read that at least twice.

Just more proof that Brazil is not unlike the US.

Yes. The fact that people use to say that racism in Brazil is less strong than in other countries is that it usually don't have violence involved, and that most African traditions are respected here. But the prejudice exists.

Qaz, Ewes are female you can't really castrate female sheep.

I know that.. just didn't want to get killed ;)

The Krasslor Red Dragons will offer themselves up for slaughter as a pre-qualifying friendly option as we try to prepare for the next Baptism of Fire.

That's what you call Margaret smiling down on you. How many rubber chickens did you sacrifice to catch that sort of a break?:p

Hmm, rubber chickens... all of our rubber went into the condoms we offered as payment to the new WC prez. Sadly we shall invoke her wrath if we don't come up with the goods.

OH MAN! What if we just covered a chicken in condoms?

Hmm, rubber chickens... all of our rubber went into the condoms we offered as payment to the new WC prez. Sadly we shall invoke her wrath if we don't come up with the goods.

OH MAN! What if we just covered a chicken in condoms?

That'd be biohazard ... we wouldn't.

Well technically it'd be a rubber covered chicken rather than a rubber chicken but the government of Sorthern Northland nonetheless fully advise you try it. What harm can it do?

Apart from to the chicken in question.

These hosts fail. Whatever happened to posting all the necessary threads here...?
They're all at the start of the RP thread, which I think would be more useful, as it means the links are all on Page One of a thread. Posting them in the DT was never a requirement. Ever. Trust me, as a double former host, I know these things.

These hosts do not fail. Yet..... :)

They're all at the start of the RP thread, which I think would be more useful, as it means the links are all on Page One of a thread. Posting them in the DT was never a requirement. Ever. Trust me, as a double former host, I know these things.

These hosts do not fail. Yet..... :)

I think it's just a different way of doing things :p

These hosts fail. Whatever happened to posting all the necessary threads here...?
It happened nine days ago (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13389876&postcount=2255).

At least we're not talking about taxes now...

These hosts do not fail. Yet..... :)

Though you'd think as a host, you'd double-check how nation names are spelled. Ad'ihan certainly were not scheduled to host Canderlia and Marquez.

Though you'd think as a host, you'd double-check how nation names are spelled. Ad'ihan certainly were not scheduled to host Canderlia and Marquez.

That's another one for the National Adjectives (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13326087&postcount=18) page... :)

Wild 5, Ducks 1.

Woo hoo! Coming to get ya, ESF! ;)

That's another one for the National Adjectives (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13326087&postcount=18) page... :)

Thanks for the Plug... lol :)

Though you'd think as a host, you'd double-check how nation names are spelled. Ad'ihan certainly were not scheduled to host Canderlia and Marquez.

Typos happen LE. If they happen often, nudge gently with correct spelling, and relax.

Typos happen LE. If they happen often, nudge gently with correct spelling, and relax.

Yeah, but we'd expect them from Baz, ESPECIALLY NOT from CH :p


Even though ESF's spelling ability is close to none as well

It happened nine days ago (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13389876&postcount=2255).

Utmost apologies. Somehow I missed that. Still, hosts should make sure every nation knows that the threads exist and not throw in a post. That means TGing everyone and/or reposting the threads when the draw comes around. I'm quite certain I TGed everyone in the Hatchling Cup before it started.

Utmost apologies. Somehow I missed that. Still, hosts should make sure every nation knows that the threads exist and not throw in a post. That means TGing everyone and/or reposting the threads when the draw comes around. I'm quite certain I TGed everyone in the Hatchling Cup before it started.

A World Cup has much more participants than a BoF, Sel. I TGed everyone when I hosted the BoF, but a World Cup is a different case (I didn't do it in WC36 and, since I started participating in the WC, I haven't received TGs about it).

You can also find the link for the threads in the signature of New Manhattan (the UCS).

A World Cup has much more participants than a BoF, Sel. I TGed everyone when I hosted the BoF, but a World Cup is a different case (I didn't do it in WC36 and, since I started participating in the WC, I haven't received TGs about it).

You can also find the link for the threads in the signature of New Manhattan (the UCS).

That second part came up once before. You can't just play the legal way out and say "Oh I posted it."

If you're not up to the challenges of hosting, then don't offer your services. I know I would ensure that everyone knew the World Cup would be starting soon via TG or other method. All the work is primarily why I haven't really thought about hosting.


On another note someone apparently didn't see my request for a friendly at Bostopia. I'm pretty sure I asked for one...

Sel: If you want to bash on hosts, make sure to host a REAL WC at least once. Then, you'll know how much work it takes to do that successfully

Sel: If you want to bash on hosts, make sure to host a REAL WC at least once. Then, you'll know how much work it takes to do that successfully

I know it takes a lot of work. If you're not up to it, then don't do it.

Interesting image of an Bostopian posted by SN! :p

On another note someone apparently didn't see my request for a friendly at Bostopia. I'm pretty sure I asked for one...

As with our WC38 friendly, I've requested it all it will be taking place midway through the qualifiers at my place :-)

As with our WC38 friendly, I've requested it all it will be taking place midway through the qualifiers at my place :-)

Ok then. :)

Interesting image of an Bostopian posted by SN! :p

I have it on good intelligence that is an actual photo of some former emperor of Bostopia. :p

Of course there is a slight chance the photo is only similar to them. ;)

Interesting image of an Bostopian posted by SN! :p

lolwow I just noticed that. :P

Wild 5, Ducks 1.

Woo hoo! Coming to get ya, ESF! ;)

Got to love the only real pro sports team in town beating up on the defending champs.:D

My favorite part of that was definitely watching Giguere duck the first goal. That was pretty brutal.

Sel,

The hosts are doing fine orginizationally. It's not their job to hold the hand of everyone in the cup. Those of us who've been around and know how things work shouldn't have any problem figuring stuff out. Especially when it's been as clearly posted as it has been here. It's not often you'll find me defending CH :p but I'm doing so here.

I know I would ensure that everyone knew the World Cup would be starting soon via TG or other method. All the work is primarily why I haven't really thought about hosting.



Sel, I think I echo the thoughts of everyone who's already posted on the topic when I note - as yet another (3 time) World Cup host - that you're really not doing yourself any favours here.

Again, I'll repeat my past advice to you: try typing less and thinking more.

If no one agrees with you, and everyone criticises you, try taking a gentle pause to consider why that might be the case instead of constantly trying to justify yourself.

And besides, you're coming across as sneering and sanctimonious; everyone surely knows by now that being sanctimonious (though not sneering) is my job.

TGing every member that the WC is starting?

That has never been done the whole time you have been here Sel. I've never received a TG and I've been here longer than you. I didn't TG for WC35

So your statement that hosts should have done something no one expected them to (TG 80 nations - perhaps the puppets)gets blown over when someone sneezes on it.

Incidently *sneezes* Ah, that feels much better.

A growing number. (Cas, TPI, and Hopeless SC) O_o

Oh fun, looky looky at the time warpy.

Got to love the only real pro sports team in town beating up on the defending champs.:DHow many Minnesotans do we have around here?! :eek:

I suppose I can't run secret under-the-table deals to sell the state to Canada anymore now. :(

TGing every member that the WC is starting?

That has never been done the whole time you have been here Sel. I've never received a TG and I've been here longer than you. I didn't TG for WC35

So your statement that hosts should have done something no one expected them to (TG 80 nations - perhaps the puppets)gets blown over when someone sneezes on it.

Incidently *sneezes* Ah, that feels much better.

I know I got a TG in World Cup 30 from Schia. I'm pretty sure I've gotten one more recently.

The threads should still be reposted in case people like me miss it the first time. All of a sudden it's the draw and I wonder where the thread is...

I remember the good old days when finals scores were telegramed the day before they went up in the thread. I think it was more fun that way, with scores trickling in as people got their RP's up.

I recall WC29, where Kry and I didn't TG results. I believe I likened it to "Having a bunch of fans stand around the stadium as a match was played, and then when it was over, the manager walking out and telling the score. Maybe. If he felt like it."

Actually, come to think of it, I remember qualifying scores being TGed out in World Cup 5. Can you imagine that sort of thing back in the 20's when we had upwards of 100 teams.:p

I think my response to that would be "Hahaha, good luck with that." :p Although that does have a certain enhancing-RPing-element to it, I suppose.

From Wiki-browsing I've seen instances where neither participant RPed and the score didn't get posted later on, leading to a gap in the records, so I'm inclined to like the system as it stands.

Clucking bell, I'm away for three days and the whole thing gets going? Augh. I haven't got the squad sorted yet...

From Wiki-browsing I've seen instances where neither participant RPed and the score didn't get posted later on, leading to a gap in the records, so I'm inclined to like the system as it stands.

And it helps eliminate problems like one we had in WC8, where my co-host failed to save his own record of the scores he generated after he TGed them. We would've been in deep rubber chicken dung if that one hadn't been RPed...

I know I got a TG in World Cup 30 from Schia. I'm pretty sure I've gotten one more recently.

The threads should still be reposted in case people like me miss it the first time. All of a sudden it's the draw and I wonder where the thread is...

Must. resist. temptation.... No.... Nooooooo.... I Can't.... the half bottle of Burgundian Pinot's too strong.... will. give. in....

You mean we're supposed to give a flying eff what 'people like you' - a demographic of no more than one - think?

Must. resist. temptation.... No.... Nooooooo.... I Can't.... the half bottle of Burgundian Pinot's too strong.... will. give. in....

You mean we're supposed to give a flying eff what 'people like you' - a demographic of no more than one - think?

There, there Arch. As they say, don't feed the troll. This applies to everyone. Just ignore him.

Must. resist. temptation.... No.... Nooooooo.... I Can't.... the half bottle of Burgundian Pinot's too strong.... will. give. in....

You mean we're supposed to give a flying eff what 'people like you' - a demographic of no more than one - think?

I'm not the only one. I'm just the only one who's speaking out.

There, there Arch. As they say, don't feed the troll. This applies to everyone. Just ignore him.

I'm not trolling.

In my experience, "don't feel the troll" is a bit misleading- a troll will latch onto most anything, irregardless of it's consumption of foodstuffs.

It's not that hard to see that the World Cup Roster and World Cup RP thread are up if you look at the Nationstates>Sound & Fury> NationStates forum tbh. They're bound to be on the first page of it during WC time after all.

I remember the good old days when finals scores were telegramed the day before they went up in the thread. I think it was more fun that way, with scores trickling in as people got their RP's up.

I don't know about the rest of you, but personally, I'd like to see it return to this way. It helps build up the drama and gives people more time to plan out RPs, especially if they're working together on a RPed story line.

1) yeah i pretty much do what Southern Northland said when it comes to keeping an eye on the threads for the cup's start for the same reason. only takes about a minute or so to pop in quick to look.

2) from 2/6 thru 2/13 i probably won't be able to post much of anything due to RL so Tynelia and Jariss will be silent on the RP front for that stretch. then again Tynelia historically seems to do better when i don't RP anyway ;)

I don't know how it would give more time to plan RPs- in my experience, it just made me wait a day to see all the scores before I RPed.

Must. resist. temptation.... No.... Nooooooo.... I Can't.... the half bottle of Burgundian Pinot's too strong.... will. give. in....

You didn't offer me a glass. Git. :p

You didn't offer me a glass. Git. :p


If it's any consolation, it wasn't a very expensive bottle of Burgundian pinot - only a Hautes Cotes du Beaune.

Now, we had a fantastic bottle of white Chateauneuf-du-Pape last week for my birthday, but in retrospect it looks like I didn't offer you a glass of that either.

Sorry.

Good news, we've identified the problem with the table generator. Bad news, I'm having to go in and manually edit the error, but once I do that, the tables should be up and correct.

If it's any consolation, it wasn't a very expensive bottle of Burgundian pinot - only a Hautes Cotes du Beaune.

Now, we had a fantastic bottle of white Chateauneuf-du-Pape last week for my birthday, but in retrospect it looks like I didn't offer you a glass of that either.

Sorry.

I'll let you off due to the fact it would have been vinegar by the time I got to drink it. :D

In my experience, "don't feel the troll" is a bit misleading- a troll will latch onto most anything, irregardless of it's consumption of foodstuffs.

In my experience, you never feel the troll.

Really? I'd have thought you were an expert trollfeeler.

I felt the Troll, it was all icky and disgusting

I felt the Troll, it was all icky and disgusting

u2weird :confused:

Just to say this now, the IFA of Daehanjeiguk confirms a friendly match against Taeshan during the halfway break.

If anyone else wants a friendly with the Han, let me know before then.

:D

The drunken taeshani newsanchor on news 12 hat 3 confirms daehans former message.(i have tged esf)

Oh and im also confirming qazoxes friendly whenever he feels like it

Despite the circumstances, I certainly feel that something random should be happening right now...

The drunken taeshani newsanchor on news 12 hat 3 confirms daehans former message.(i have tged esf)

Oh and im also confirming qazoxes friendly whenever he feels like it

I confirm the friendly with taeshan during the mid-qualifiers.

Host Note

There is a good possibility that tommorow's (well later today really) scorination will be a little later than normal. It should be no later than 6:00am UTC.

u2weird :confused:

When the Han calls you weird, then you must be weird.

Also - Calling out the Men In Mauve for a mid-quali friendly, at their place, if they want one.

When the Han calls you weird, then you must be weird.

Also - Calling out the Men In Mauve for a mid-quali friendly, at their place, if they want one.

I take that as the compliment it was intended as.

The real problem with the phrase don't feed the trolls is that trolls usually get most of their substainance from eating goats walking over their bridge, and that's a pretty much unavoidable phenomenon, so....

I always positioned myself near dairy/cattle farms, as cows are tastier than goats.

Also - Calling out the Men In Mauve for a mid-quali friendly, at their place, if they want one.

You're on!

I'm thinking of getting back into the World Cup, I missed WC39 and didn't RP WC38 but II RP is getting slow. Have the sign-ups started yet?

I'm thinking of getting back into the World Cup, I missed WC39 and didn't RP WC38 but II RP is getting slow. Have the sign-ups started yet?

No, not yet, probably about a week or so...

Veph will do that as he's the new WCC Pres.

I guess that means one more week of tax freedom?

I always positioned myself near dairy/cattle farms, as cows are tastier than goats.

goats are evil. they eat everything, including my sockS!

MY %$#& SOCKS

also, last call for midqualifier friendly with the Han.

If you don't call us, someone will.

isnt that when mine and yours is han

I try to do two - home and away...

You're on!

Let the RAWRCRUSH commence.

I guess that means one more week of tax freedom?

No - just all taxes go to me instead :D

No - just all taxes go to me instead :D

boohoo...

NO NEW TAXES!!! (until at least World Cup 43.... lol)

Anybody have any extra rubber chickens they can send my way? I seem to need to make a huge sacrifice just to win a match in the World Cup.:mad:

Anybody have any extra rubber chickens they can send my way? I seem to need to make a huge sacrifice just to win a match in the World Cup.:mad:

Ask milchama, they breed them special for World Cups ;)

Ask milchama, they breed them special for World Cups ;)

But but, you need the special dance moves and chants!

Anybody have any extra rubber chickens they can send my way? I seem to need to make a huge sacrifice just to win a match in the World Cup.:mad:

Well, you're current RP style is not getting you any favors I'll tell you that much.

Well, you're current RP style is not getting you any favors I'll tell you that much.

Still better than taeshan's...lol ;)

I think we need to be very careful about criticising RP styles in this or any other thread.

There may be any number of reasons why some nations choose certain styles over others. We should also be aware that given the broad demographic of participants, not every nation may be able to - or would want to - engage in long satirical digressions or bastardisations of the poetry of 20th-century Irish poets. If Taeshan or Hopeless SC currently have a more straightforward approach to their RPs, then we should embrace the fact that they're participating in the current tournament in the hope that coming tournaments will see an expanded level of participation rather than implicitly or explicitly criticise their style. We don't want to discourage participation by demeaning RP contributions.

From that perspective, I'm slightly disappointed that one of our hosts has seen fit to criticise the RPing style of a WC participant.

Hopeless SC's apparent complaint (which, frowny face aside, was fairly jokey) is an old one, and a standard response along the lines of 'it's just random numbers' would surely have been more appropriate than criticising his RP style, especially given the subjective nature of judging RP content and the age-old dispute in this thread (including its predecessor) over how important RPs should be.

There's also the danger that a host criticising RPs could be seen as partial in judging the subjective nature of RP quality, and as preferring a particular RP style.

By all means criticise idiotic things that a nation might say in the discussion thread, but criticising RP style? Unless a nation is clearly being gratuitously offensive and disruptive - which isn't the case here - that's very slippery ground indeed.

I would suggest that you and me have a conversation on IRC or through TG if you feel that way Reg.

Reg,

While I understand and sort of agree I also think it's fair to point out that neither Hopeless nor Taeshan should get much of any RP bonus. I don't think ESF's tone was out of line and those RPs are poor. It's not a question of style in any way, it's a question of effort. And let's be honest the hosts are subjective in grading RPs and that's their right. It's one of the reasons to host. So long as they're not being biased in favor or against certain teams on other issues I have no problem with that.

Reg,

While I understand and sort of agree I also think it's fair to point out that neither Hopeless nor Taeshan should get much of any RP bonus. I don't think ESF's tone was out of line and those RPs are poor. It's not a question of style in any way, it's a question of effort. And let's be honest the hosts are subjective in grading RPs and that's their right. It's one of the reasons to host. So long as they're not being biased in favor or against certain teams on other issues I have no problem with that.

There are several separate issues here.

One issue is a matter of whether hosts are subjective in grading RPs. Of course they are, and they every right to to so. Given my past hosting, it would be hypocritical for me to suggest otherwise.

A second issue is whether everyone is capable of making the same effort. Clearly they aren't, which is why I'm uncomfortable with commenting on RP quality (as opposed to content). Surely the important thing is that Taeshan, for example, is enjoying himself?

A third issue is whether hosts should comment on other nation's RP quality in this thread. And clearly, based on my previous comments, I have concerns here (hosts defending themselves against unwarranted criticism is a different issue, and one where I think they have every right to robustly respond).

ESF shouldn't think I'm desperately upset with him, or up in arms, or accusing him of bias, or anything like that. I just think it's the sort of issue where hosts need to be careful because of the potential resulting pitfalls.

Speaking of RP's - Han, I was reading your one where you said "You remember the weird general who ran around the streets of Casari hunting commies in a tank all night? That's Bostopia." I had to stop myself from guffawing in work time (also, he's a Field Marshal, but no biggie, I won't even try and pretend I know everything about your country :))

Oh, and the Emperor's only back to play in the team representing the Bostopia Tourist Board against other people trying to sponsor the Bazalopes, not the national team. Though you have given me an idea *evil laugh*

Also, I promise I won't let the WC RP thread dissolve into Bostopia -v- Sorthern Northland.

See, all that is going to do is open the door for more criticism of RP styles- particularly when everyone RPs to a level that they find enjoyable. Saying that, surely any effort you put forth criticizing others would be better spent working on your own RPs, thereby increasing everyone's enjoyment.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to build a pagan shrine to Doctor Reg.

<snip>

Also, I promise I won't let the WC RP thread dissolve into Bostopia -v- Sorthern Northland.

Would that be because your far superior military is going to blow SN off the face of the NSworld and therefore there will be no SN for you to be at war with?

;)