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<nerdiness>
I hate to demonstrate my nerdiness here, but it's actually not 1/2!!!

Consider that each spot is chosen at random individually:

1st position - chance of winning among four teams = 1/4
2nd position - chance of winning among remaining three teams = 1/3
...etc...

Since the total probability of qualifying is actually the sum of the probability of getting a winning spot, there is a 5/12 chance that Az-cz would qualify by random lots.
Casari is correct; the probability of a team not being picked in the first round and then being picked in the second round is 3/4 × 1/3 = 1/4, so the probability of any particular team going through by lots is 1/2.

But consider also the fact that they ended with a 1-1-1 result, that included some strange losses. There are a total of 10 different possibilities to end the World Cup.

*snip*
This math is also rather dodgy, because the number of points that one team earns in the group stage is not independent of tho points that other teams earn—e.g., it’s impossible for more than one team to end up with zero points. You aren’t too far off, though—the probability of the teams in Group G ending up level on points, GD, and GF with the scorinator, ranks, style modifiers, and RP bonuses used is 1 in 410000.

Assuming that Group G is a typical group, then the chance of such an event having occurred in any of the 312 first-round groups that have been played to date is about 1 in 1315. However, Group G is a highly atypical group—containing the highest first seed, the highest second seed, the second-lowest third seed, and the lowest fourth seed—so the true probability should be somewhat higher.

</nerdiness>

Cas, the probability of me going through on the lots was 1/2, but the probability of me not going through before than must be factored in. I should've been a decent favorite in all of those matches, such that only getting four points is also bad luck. When taken all together it was quite unlikely for me not to move on.

I don't understand any of that. And don't mind in the least.

*runs away giggling manically*

Sel, may i ask what's your problem with Jey?[/SIZE]

The nation would not compete in the qualifiers after the BoF because allowing Starblaydia in the BoF "violated" the rules, which isn't true. His OOC explanation is that the University thing cannot accept a loss and blames it on this or that. So, Sel Appa has IC opposition to the capability of that nation to host.

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #1 team in the world by a clear margin, whose one the last two cups, who RPs alot, can't make the second freaking round?
<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #3 team in the world, by a clear margin, who's third once in the last two cups, who RPs somewhat, can't make the Cup proper?

The nation would not compete in the qualifiers after the BoF because allowing Starblaydia in the BoF "violated" the rules, which isn't true. His OOC explanation is that the University thing cannot accept a loss and blames it on this or that. So, Sel Appa has IC opposition to the capability of that nation to host.

We (read: myself and most of #nssport and the NSWC community in general) took Jey's IC reaction as a blurred OOC one, which isn't the case.

When Starblaydia defeated Jey in the Semi-Final of the BoF, Jey pulled out of the World Cup Qualifiers they were about to enter claiming rule-breaking, cheating, old nation bias etc, which is all well within the (IC) realms of Jey's Universitus, who think they're all perfect and couldn't handle losing.

Cas, the probability of me going through on the lots was 1/2, but the probability of me not going through before than must be factored in. I should've been a decent favorite in all of those matches, such that only getting four points is also bad luck. When taken all together it was quite unlikely for me not to move on.

No, it doesn't have to be factored in, because I didn't. :p

Hopefully we'll get a unique winner this time, that would be rather nice.

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #3 team in the world, by a clear margin, who's third once in the last two cups, who RPs somewhat, can't make the Cup proper?

We call this "The Spaam Effect". The odds are slightly longer for you, as your nation's name contains an S, a P, and two As, but lacks an M.

*looks at calendar and notices it's actually Sunday the 24th*

Whoops, running a little behind here, but at any rate, it's time to vote for the hosts of the upcoming Baptism of Fire!

There is one (1) submitted bid for the competition. Therefore, your options are:

(a) Accept Starblaydia as host for the 27th Baptism of Fire
(b) Re-open the bidding process

Please telegram all votes to Vephrall (other forms of communication, such as IRC private messages, are also acceptable).

The voting deadline is Sunday 2 March at 21:30 GMT.

All members of the Emergency World Cup Committee are eligible to vote. Those members consist of all nations on the following list:

* Alasdair I Frosticus/The Archregimancy (WC2, WC28, WC34)
* Ariddia (WC1, WC34)
* Az-cz (WC33)
* Bazalonia (WC35)
* Bedistan/Vephrall (WC8, WC18, WC27, WC38)
* Cafundéu (WC36)
* Casari (WC29)
* Commerce Heights/Capitalizt SLANI/Jaseuyeon (WC26, WC36, WC39)
* Elves Security Forces/Valanora (WC39)
* Geisenfried (WC32)
* Kaze Progressa/Kura-Pelland (WC12, WC17, WC25, WC38)
* Krytenia (WC24, WC29)
* Legalese/Novapsolu (WC22, WC37)
* Lethislavania (WC21)
* Liverpool England/Ad'ihan (WC22, WC37)
* Milchama (WC32)
* New Montreal States (WC28)
* Oliverry/Septentrionia (WC26)
* Quakmybush (WC33)
* The Islands of Qutar (WC30)
* Rejistania (WC13, WC16, WC23)
* Schiavonia/The Supermarket (WC30)
* Spaam (WC6)
* Starblaydia (WC20) - candidate, cannot vote
* Vilita/Turori (WC17, WC19, WC22, WC31)

I'm not on that list!!!!

I'm not on that list!!!!

Copypasta from your lists :p

Copypasta from your lists :p

Mmm... pasta

Apparently, there's a lot of us BOF23ers in this World Cup...

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #1 team in the world by a clear margin, whose one the last two cups, who RPs alot, can't make the second freaking round?

At least you have.

This is the 3000th Post here? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13477459&postcount=3000

Better than most milestone posts.

This is the 3000th Post here? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13477459&postcount=3000

Better than most milestone posts.

That can be fixed...

And to CH:

I realize that my math was atrocious, and that to relieve my tensions caused between the mathematical inclinations and my uber-stupidness in the subject I must be douzed in burning pitch, but I'm wary that the statistic doesn't seem right to me still. But then, having been shown the proper math, I think it would be better for me duck out of the scene and leave the subject to more esteemed folk.

Besides, I don't want to become one of those wanked idiots who thinks that they know everything (yet clearly don't know a thing according to their colleagues) and annoy everyone with the continuations of their incessant rants that "THIS IS NOT RIGHT"

Well, whatever happened to Az-cz... it's surely a freak accident that happens once every 39 cups or so.

I hate the colour Purple!

:mad:

I hate the colour Purple!

:mad:

me to :p

Well, it was a good run, eh? Time to go home and get ready for the OFC IV. Not to mention that we've got the CoH left.

I try to host it around the beginning of the Knock-out stages of the Cup of Harmony, that way it's done before the next Baptism of Fire. I'd suggest waiting until after the Group stages of the World Cup are completed before posting a sign-up thread, that way you might get a few WC flameouts.

Turtle Cup signups should be up tomorrow.

I hate the colour Purple!

:mad:

Oh. My. God. :eek:



Technically we wear white with purple trim. But nevermind :D

Oh. My. God. :eek:



Technically we wear white with purple trim. But nevermind :D

Same difference ...

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #1 team in the world by a clear margin, whose one the last two cups, who RPs alot, can't make the second freaking round?


Probably about the same as an actively participating top 10 team going into such rapid decline that within two cups of being a top 10 team, it can't even qualify for the World Cup. Twice in a row.

Don't worry, you'll get over it.

Ditto Sel Appa.

Funny how people are rarely quite as sympathetic, understanding and encouraging when it's happening to themselves as when it's happening to someone else.

But for what it's worth, let's all repeat the magic mantra:

A) Random numbers
B) RP not equal to guarantees
C) It has to happen to someone, or this tournament would get very boring very quickly

Om.

Thy soul is cleansed now.

Funny how people are rarely quite as sympathetic, understanding and encouraging when it's happening to themselves as when it's happening to someone else.

It's all part of a virtual life's rich tapestry.

Om.

Quite.

Editorial: The enlightenment and football (AT Online exclusive)
Many people at my workplace have asked me of my opinion of “the game yesterday,” by which I can only conclude that they mean the Capitalizt SLANI–Zwangzug World Cup football match in Sonoma City. Though I’ve rarely watched sports before, I did take the opportunity to observe this contest, and found it quite intriguing. So, if you want to know what I thought while the events unfolded on my screen, now you can.

I must say I really rather enjoyed reading this post, CH. Plus it explains the concept of the UCS far, far better than you simply mentioning 'odd notions of "countries"' in #nssport.

Great RP.

I must say I really rather enjoyed reading this post, CH. Plus it explains the concept of the UCS far, far better than you simply mentioning 'odd notions of "countries"' in #nssport.

Great RP.

Agreed. Very nicely done.

I was rather impressed as well- however, it seems distressing that we're playing the World Cup in such a nation of literalist nerds. :p

this seems to have been the Cup of upsets. i think half of the top ten didn;t make it the knockouts this time around. Though i did notice Star beat Jeruselem in the knockouts so some things remain the same at least. ;)

*contemplates arresting Queen Katherine Alexandra Dallas for murder*

*contemplates arresting Queen Katherine Alexandra Dallas for murder*

We'll supply the rope!

Now I think about it, she'd probably only claim diplomatic immunity. Spoilsport.

*contemplates arresting Queen Katherine Alexandra Dallas for murder*

We'll supply the, er well I don't know what but something. Food for the watching masses maybe? Some drinks?

You HATE Purple

Has Valanora got the death penalty?

Jeru, TG.

We'll supply the "Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!"

I hate needlessly large fonts.

We'll supply the, er well I don't know what but something. Food for the watching masses maybe? Some drinks?

Ever heard of "Persona non grata?" :p

I see that and think about cheese.

It just means you don't exist ...

*** Time warp ***

We'll supply the death. I know you'd need that.

Ever heard of "Persona non grata?" :p

I see that and think about cheese.

Has Valanora got the death penalty?

Jeru, TG.

In a fashion, however I was thinking of something quite more sinister in mind for the punishment.

It just means you don't exist ...

*** Time warp ***

I still think about cheese. Can't help it. It's the "grata" part that gets me.

Turtle Cup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550498)

In a fashion, however I was thinking of something quite more sinister in mind for the punishment.

10 years of forced abstinence? You'd be doing society a favor ;)

10 years of forced abstinence? You'd be doing society a favor ;)

In Jeruselem, we live and die by the sword! :p
The Holy Lands cannot be ruled if you're soft and meek.

The Holy Lands cannot be ruled if you're soft and meek.What about that whole inheriting-the-earth stuff? :p

What about that whole inheriting-the-earth stuff? :p

They will but someone's got keep them under control :D

They'll live in villages and these villages become cities. These cities will start war with other cities. Professional armies will be formed and weak cities will be crushed. The big city states become empires who start annexing weak city states, and hence a real empire ...

So I take it I have permission to exucute the arrest then?

So I take it I have permission to exucute the arrest then?

Yes

I think you've just given ESF a free ticket to do whatever the hell he wants to her, up to and including death.

I'm aware of that. If she does get executed, I've got a nasty sting :p

Yes

I think you've just given ESF a free ticket to do whatever the hell he wants to her, up to and including death.

What are we talking about again...

What are we talking about again...

Jeru surrendered sovereignty of the Holy Matriarch to ESF to stand for trials on crimes against humanity.

(ooc: Celebacy for a Dallas???? that's a punishment worse that death ;))

...
C) It has to happen to someone, or this tournament would get very boring very quickly.



That someone is usually me...lol ;) but at least I'm glad i'm not the only one this time.

(ooc: Celebacy for a Dallas???? that's a punishment worse that death ;))

Kate will be dead b4 the next cup. If anyone tries to stop her, they'll be trail of dead elves in the temple.

** Wants to kill this !#$#%$#$$ time warp ***

For those of you who haven't, I would like to recommend the book The Wiener Dog Magnet, referenced in Casaran RPs and available here: http://www.magickeys.com/books/wienerdog/index.html. It is quite excellent, in a magnetic-animal-magnet way.

I would recommend not reading any of that, unless you want maggots to grow out of your ears (I'm guessing that what you wanted me to do, Casari?).

~~~*TIME WARP*~~~

Kate will be dead b4 the next cup. If anyone tries to stop her, they'll be trail of dead elves in the temple.

** Wants to kill this !#$#%$#$$ time warp ***

Join me - we'll kill it together!!!

~~~*TIME WARP*~~~ Part 2

For those of you who haven't, I would like to recommend the book The Wiener Dog Magnet, referenced in Casaran RPs and available here: http://www.magickeys.com/books/wienerdog/index.html. It is quite excellent, in a magnetic-animal-magnet way.

How do i make one of these teams? I think it would be fun,but I'm confused. Help me please.

Read this for an idea, young grasshopper!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547990

How do i make one of these teams? I think it would be fun,but I'm confused. Help me please.

Someone time warp me!!!

Kate will be dead b4 the next cup. If anyone tries to stop her, they'll be trail of dead elves in the temple.

** Wants to kill this !#$#%$#$$ time warp ***

Good thing we're magical creatures, and the Senate secretly has cloned everyone in the country, while also maintaining a large facility with the DNA of every citizen that has ever lived in Valanora :)

Done. blame PRUX for the dang timewarps.. I think the Dreamed realm visted there once and left something behind.

Actually, I just time warped you...

But I think we all know who is to blame...MARGARET

Someone time warp me!!!

Done. blame PRUX for the dang timewarps.. I think the Dreamed realm visted there once and left something behind.

Good thing we're magical creatures, and the Senate secretly has cloned everyone in the country, while also maintaining a large facility with the DNA of every citizen that has ever lived in Valanora :)

Oh yes, your temple won't be able fix Skate. Her grandmother has some experimental genes planted in her which magnified in Dazza and her daughters but is less evident in Debbie Dallas and her daughters.

They are class of "Superwomen". Unfortunately, there were some programming errors!

Actually, I just time warped you...

But I think we all know who is to blame...MARGARET

Bazalonia?

Dang timewarps always seem to happen at the end of a WC President's term.

Bazalonia?

Dang timewarps always seem to happen at the end of a WC President's term.

Actually, I just time warped you...

But I think we all know who is to blame...[COLOR="White"MARGARET/COLOR]

Miracles what hiding something in plain sight can do... :D

For those of you who haven't, I would like to recommend the book The Wiener Dog Magnet, referenced in Casaran RPs and available here: http://www.magickeys.com/books/wienerdog/index.html. It is quite excellent, in a magnetic-animal-magnet way.

This book also recommended by myself.

Doing work while on work time is also recommended by myself, that's if you don't want to get sacked. *sigh*

Jeru surrendered sovereignty of the Holy Matriarch to ESF to stand for trials on crimes against humanity.

as if Elves care what happens to humanity. ;)

This book also recommended by myself.

Doing work while on work time is also recommended by myself, that's if you don't want to get sacked. *sigh*

The girls in my office loved that link, so it was at least vaguely useful here.

The things you can find on YouTube these days (when it's not being sabotaged by the Pakistani government, that is).

The following could almost pass as an Archregimancy Tourist Board travel videos (if the monks were ever to encourage tourists, which they won't):

First video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs0R9C8DOsQ&feature=related) (slightly irritating effects, but good chanting)

Second video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGH5Ey9nfs&feature=related) (no sound, & don't entirely approve of the recourse to secret filming, but, well...)

Third video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZW-l-pAyw&feature=related) (Easter in the Archregimancy?)

Fourth - and possibly best - video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0pjqoJaKiY&feature=related)

One more for luck... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHoBc6nocQE) (silent, but good quality and fast-loading)

Don't worry - I'm not trying to convert anyone (and those of you disinclined to be converted may want to ignore some of the video comments, which even I'll concede sometimes verge on the overly supportive). I just thought I'd try and show what what the Archregimancy is supposed to look like.

I hope someone will remind me about this if I've forgotten again by the time we reach the point of posting rosters to the next World Cup...

<pointlesscommentoftheday>

Casari would look like that, but totally different. More babes on motorcycles are likely.

</pointlesscommentoftheday>

Casari? (http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6958/hamsterwheelmotorcycle7fs6.jpg)

Hmm... I prefer my giant robot cartoon clips. Hooray for saving the internets.

Good thing we're magical creatures, and the Senate secretly has cloned everyone in the country, while also maintaining a large facility with the DNA of every citizen that has ever lived in Valanora :)

Remind me to never visit Valanora

Remind me to never visit Valanora

What? Cloning is perfectly fine.

Remind me to never visit Valanora

Let's see ...

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How do i make one of these teams? I think it would be fun,but I'm confused. Help me please.
Welcome to the NS World Cup. On behalf of everyone, I hope you enjoy it. Don't mind the bickering and insanity that often goes on in this thread...

Good thing we're magical creatures, and the Senate secretly has cloned everyone in the country, while also maintaining a large facility with the DNA of every citizen that has ever lived in Valanora :)
DNA doesn't contain memories. :p

This has to be a record...

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DNA doesn't contain memories. :p

They can be programmed in ;)

They can be programmed in ;)

God help if there's a mix-up ...

Except Elves are magic- just resurrect people when they die. :p

Except Elves are magic- just resurrect people when they die. :p

I know, played too much D&D. You got be a fairly decent Cleric to do so still as not any old rookie Cleric can do so. It's not a 100% spell either ... it can fail.

I like Half-Elf Fighter/Mages.

Read this for an idea
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547990

I did read that, and there is just the slight problem of that I haven't the first clue how soccer(or football, whatever) is played in any higher sense than "Kick the ball in the net and don't break your legs", let alone positions and whatnot. So yeah...:headbang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_Football

there's a good link for you

I did read that, and there is just the slight problem of that I haven't the first clue how soccer(or football, whatever) is played in any higher sense than "Kick the ball in the net and don't break your legs", let alone positions and whatnot. So yeah...:headbang:

It's simple. On the field, there's 11 players each side - one is the goalkeeper. The aim is to put a round ball into a large net protected by the goalkeeper. Defenders are the players who help the goalkeeper. Midfielders play in the middle of the field and the strikers are ones who try to score in the opposing goal.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(soccer)

I did read that, and there is just the slight problem of that I haven't the first clue how soccer(or football, whatever) is played in any higher sense than "Kick the ball in the net and don't break your legs", let alone positions and whatnot. So yeah...:headbang:

Or you could always just have your players know nothing about football and talk about that. Or you could not have positions and sorta have them run around and randomly kick the ball.

There are no rules here so don't be constrained by actual positions, or having humans. Heck AIF had porn stars for one of his WC runs and last cup we had a team of sentient supermarket products playing. Anything is possible.

I know, played too much D&D. You got be a fairly decent Cleric to do so still as not any old rookie Cleric can do so. It's not a 100% spell either ... it can fail.

I like Half-Elf Fighter/Mages.

Pfft, GURPS ftw.

Starblaydia 1–7 Valanora

My plan worked! :p

So was mine.. allowing Casari a chance to win the world cup.. yeah, that was the plan all along.....;)

Starblaydia 1–7 Valanora

My plan worked! :p

You're plan is to have the hosts rig the results? :rolleyes:

*Note included below


*I don't actually believe the hosts rigged the results

Why all the "Ghost Writing"?

Are you afraid someone's not gonna like what you wrote?

Why all the "Ghost Writing"?

Are you afraid someone's not gonna like what you wrote?

Oh come on, you missed the perfect opportunity to hypocritically do it yourself there! :p Not that I would ever advocate such a thing.

Az-Cz, call me a manipulative scheming bitch - I don't care
What I did was rather open anyway!

Why all the "Ghost Writing"?

Are you afraid someone's not gonna like what you wrote?

Because we like to confuse the unenlightened masses of humanity that decide to try to read these posts. That and we're a bunch of ass-holes anyway ;)

Starblaydia 1–7 Valanora

My plan worked! :p

I do believe that's a record defeat for Starblaydia. We've never lost by more than 4 before (0-4 and 1-5 a couple of times each).

When I clicked on the scores thread I was expecting 8-0, actually, so it's better than I'd hoped for!

I do believe that's a record defeat for Starblaydia. We've never lost by more than 4 before (0-4 and 1-5 a couple of times each).

When I clicked on the scores thread I was expecting 8-0, actually, so it's better than I'd hoped for!

7-1 is 8-0! It's 8-0 with an own goal :D

I do believe that's a record defeat for Starblaydia. We've never lost by more than 4 before (0-4 and 1-5 a couple of times each).

When I clicked on the scores thread I was expecting 8-0, actually, so it's better than I'd hoped for!

Serves you right for advancing over higher ranked teams... lol ;)

Serves you right for advancing over higher ranked teams... lol ;)

And you're one of few teams who can beat Star regularly, but when you try to get to the 2nd round ... crash.

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #3 team in the world, by a clear margin, who's third once in the last two cups, who RPs somewhat, can't make the Cup proper?
Bit like France in 2002 then?

Damn it! :p I'd hoped to make the semis for my last World Cup for the immediate future.

I'm going to be taking a break from the World Cup for now.

May the strangeness continue in my absence, and may you all have fun. ;)

Bit like France in 2002 then?

Maybe we just didn't RP in 2002.

Or you could always just have your players know nothing about football and talk about that. Or you could not have positions and sorta have them run around and randomly kick the ball.

There are no rules here so don't be constrained by actual positions, or having humans. Heck AIF had porn stars for one of his WC runs and last cup we had a team of sentient supermarket products playing. Anything is possible.

There's also the argument that, since a brand new team is unlikely to do particularly well, directly translating real life ignorance of the rules of the game into in-character roleplay of a team that's completely clueless about what's going on would work very well as an RP theme.

Hell, sometimes it even works when you're a reasonably highly-ranked team and don't really expect to get thrashed (see Fr. Pavel Who Ate All the Pies and co's 7-1 loss to Bettia a couple of World Cups ago).

AIF/Arch, you have a TG.

Aww, can I have a TG? No-one ever sends me a TG unless they want something. Maybe send me a joke. I like ones about horses.

AIF/Arch, you have a TG.

Answered!

Aww, can I have a TG? No-one ever sends me a TG unless they want something. Maybe send me a joke. I like ones about horses.

Surely you've just opened yourself up to a whole world of trouble, there, from all sorts of bad jokes, horse-related or otherwise.

Answered!

And again...

I do very much hope we'll see you back again after a break. I tempted you back to join the Holy Empire in having both of us re-enter for WC25 - maybe in 10 World Cups I can tempt you back for World Cup 50.

We'll see. Maybe World Cup 50. No promises.

Pfft, GURPS ftw.

Agreed.

Loving AIF's idea for a truly clueless newbie team also.

And in answer to his IC post, Rejis did not join until 8 or 9 if memory serves (heck, I was about as Kaze Progressa before then), but I can't remember when Squorn came about. 3, I suspect, but I joined in 7 and know little of 1-6.

Surely you've just opened yourself up to a whole world of trouble, there, from all sorts of bad jokes, horse-related or otherwise.


No, you're quite right.

I will however accept ponies.

No, you're quite right.

I will however accept ponies.

As in £25 or Crap?


Oh, you mean the little horse... nevermind :D

but I can't remember when Squorn came about. 3, I suspect, but I joined in 7 and know little of 1-6.

5. And the little %^*$ made the quarters in his first attempt, too!

That was a long time ago to still hold a grudge, Bedi. :p

but I can't remember when Squorn came about. 3, I suspect, but I joined in 7 and know little of 1-6.

Aye, well, lad... Not many remember them days, but we were 'appy. And we were were poor. We were 'appy because we were poor. We used to 'ave to play football uphill both ways in 10 feet of snow for tuppence a time, and if we were lucky, our manager would thrash us with a cat-o-nine-tails before the match to get the blood pumping right after the char lady passed us a drop of ice-cold tea in a cracked mug. The balls were made of 'eavy leather like you wouldn't believe; why, I remember an Al-Quds player getting all decapitated like when he went to head a cross, but the ball had become like a lead weight by soaking up water during one of those freezing downpours that occasionally broke out between the blizzards. We used to decide the World Cup hosts by drawing lots, and the nation that pulled the short straw would be fed to a pack of rabid blood-thirsty flesh-eating giant zucchinis. Aye... that made sure the hosts really wanted it; none of this namby-pamby voting and democracy nonsense.

But you try telling the young nations of the world that today, and they don't believe a word of it.

But you try telling the young nations of the world that today, and they don't believe a word of it.

Whatcha talkin bout? We STILL do it like that (except substitute "a pack of rabid blood-thirsty flesh-eating giant zucchinis" with "Richard Simmons").

This is that part where I laugh and mutter something about crazy old timers, and then when Richard pops up I run away screaming and never play another WC. Or something.

I wouldn't worry about it tbh. The old timers memory has just gone a bit hazy, so he's added a few bits of how he'd of like it to be. It wasn't actually like that though. :p

We'll see. Maybe World Cup 50. No promises.

The Ariddians in Jeruselem will just keep on doing what they do!
Since you're going for a while, I'll just have go more Jewish :)

Poor Sel Appa, they can't even win a COH :(
Oh well, maybe my Jeru FC can do it. :D

Wow, bad run of luck for the Turtles :-/

Poor Sel Appa, they can't even win a COH :(
Oh well, maybe my Jeru FC can do it. :D

3rd place gets the same points plus the prux match I wanted. :)

3rd place gets the same points plus the prux match I wanted. :)

Oh God, a giant robot duck vs a giant flying killer turtle!

Oh God, a giant robot duck vs a giant flying killer turtle!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/juvanya/saaf1.png

And you're one of few teams who can beat Star regularly, but when you try to get to the 2nd round ... crash.

3-1-0.... I'd trade all 3 wins against Star for a quarterfinal appearance.
And my 1-3 Loss to bostopia in WCxXx for a CoH championship.

Well, it's time for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Lunch anyone?

3-1-0.... I'd trade all 3 wins against Star for a quarterfinal appearance.

Quarter-Finals aren't all they're cracked up to be... :(

It bears repeating that other nations need to come somewhere near the Dreamed Realm's record of futility before they can even begin to whinge about not reaching quarterfinals or not winning anything.

Remember....
World Cups 1-4, 7, 24-39, with two nations in WCs 25, 27-28, 30-39, and in all that time...

The best I've done in the tournament proper is 3 quarterfinals, all in the three tournaments I was co-hosting, and not one single CoH win (I think the Archregimancy did make a semi-final or final against Milchama a couple of years ago, but the details are hazy). Neither Dreamed Realm team has ever entered the BoF, though in the case of AIF, that's obviously because there was no BoF before WC1 (though I suppose they were technically eligible prior to WC25 when they first re-entered).

The only football-related thing won by any Dreamed Realm team during all of this time, going all the way back to the first half of 2003, was a club tournament; I can't remember the name of the Uefa Cup equivalent we had back when we had such things, but either Pantocrator MFC or Pantaleimon MFC won it against a team from Tajikistan.

Maybe Star and Kry can give me a special pre-WC40 medal for life-long futility in the service of football ;)


If nothing else, at least I've conclusively proven that not all of us are participating to win things (though as I've previously openly admitted, even I can feel discouraged when I'm not at least meeting expectations).

The only football-related thing won by any Dreamed Realm team during all of this time, going all the way back to the first half of 2003, was a club tournament; I can't remember the name of the Uefa Cup equivalent we had back when we had such things, but either Pantocrator MFC or Pantaleimon MFC won it against a team from Tajikistan.

From here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/nsfa_cup.html):
NSFA Cup 3: Pantocrator (The Archregimancy) 1-0 Regar-TadAZ Tursunzade (Tadjikistan), final hosted at National Stadium, City Centre, Liverpool England

Maybe Star and Kry can give me a special pre-WC40 medal for life-long futility in the service of football ;)

Who knows what unaudacious, uninventive and unambitious things we have planned, assuming we host?

Oh God, a giant robot duck vs a giant flying killer turtle!

where's Godzilla when you need him?

<inserts a man speaking in a way that the words do not even come remotely close to matching the movement of his lips>

"Rook writs RODRILLA!!!!"

From here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/nsfa_cup.html):
NSFA Cup 3: Pantocrator (The Archregimancy) 1-0 Regar-TadAZ Tursunzade (Tadjikistan), final hosted at National Stadium, City Centre, Liverpool England


Thanks!

And look, I even RP'd the final (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463312&page=7) (though not with a lot of effort, alas).

March 2006... It seems so long ago....

Wow, NSWiki needs to get back into a writable state. Apparently Champions League 9 has been the current iteration of the tournament for almost two years now :-/

Aye the wiki's been down a long time now. November I think it was?

Anyway there's another one here (http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/WikiStates:About), not a fan of the layout but at least you can edit articles on this one.

Holy Giant Psychedelic Chicken Turtle!

Then again, we seem to have air forces that carpet bomb with crickets, so anything's possible ^_^

Is there a curse here or something for me...

Holy Giant Psychedelic Chicken Turtle!

Then again, we seem to have air forces that carpet bomb with crickets, so anything's possible ^_^

I'd like to confirm that Fort Boston is now fully recovered... though we do have a lot of hamsters we need to give away to little children. They won't need too much feeding, they're full on crickets...

We also have flame-grilled cricket if anyone is into that. (Both the hamsters and the flame-grilling thanks to our good friend and ally, Casari.)

I'd like to confirm that Fort Boston is now fully recovered... though we do have a lot of hamsters we need to give away to little children. They won't need too much feeding, they're full on crickets...

We also have flame-grilled cricket if anyone is into that. (Both the hamsters and the flame-grilling thanks to our good friend and ally, Casari.)

We have some flesh-eating crickets that need some feeding... and hamsters are just the right size (or guinea pigs, if you have any)!

By all means, feel free to call Casari for your various extermination needs.

Prices are negotiable.

It bears repeating that other nations need to come somewhere near the Dreamed Realm's record of futility before they can even begin to whinge about not reaching quarterfinals or not winning anything.

Fine, I'll complain about not advancing past the 2nd round, while you can continue to whine about not making a semifinal. Sounds fair right?? (Now watch somehow Margaret set it up so the WC40 final is Qazox v. Arch/A1F)

I think I need to behead more rubber chickens to beat Starblaydia :D

Without meaning to be rude, I seriously think Milchama making the final is not deserved.

Without meaning to be rude, I seriously think Milchama making the final is not deserved.

Yeah, it should be me. ;)

Yeah, it should be me. ;)

Without meaning to be rude, I seriously think Milchama making the final is not deserved.

Nyet!

Qazox should be that team...;)

and now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Without meaning to be rude, I seriously think Milchama making the final is not deserved.
You’d prefer Starblaydia? :p

You’d prefer Starblaydia? :p

Wouldn't we all? :D

Well, at least you got the venue right. :p

Wouldn't we all? :D

Nope! Ariddia, Bettia, Az-Cz but not you.

Alright, my new goal is to get past the qualifiers. It might take 5 more cups, but that's why I need to really get serious and start role-playing regularly. :p

Alright, my new goal is to get past the qualifiers. It might take 5 more cups, but that's why I need to really get serious and start role-playing regularly. :p

It took Jeruselem just 7 cups to qualify, only 7 :p

Without meaning to be rude, I seriously think Milchama making the final is not deserved.

I'm not quite sure what your objection to Milchama is, but this is the second time he's reached the final as a rank outsider (was World Cup 34 v. Ariddia the other one? Sometimes my memory gets a little hazy), so at least he's reasonably consistent.

He's active, he RPs, he's participating. Surely that should be enough?

And if it's anything like the last final he reached as an outsider, he'll get crushed by the SLANI....

9th is a rank outsider now? Geez, can't I get some credit? :p

9th is a rank outsider now? Geez, can't I get some credit? :p

I was ranked 10th when I won WC25 over Rejis (who, if I remember, was fairly high at the time). When it comes down to single match knockout rounds, however, it's just the luck of the day that decides who wins, really.

Except in certain 7-1 scorelines, of course, when rank really matters.

He's active, he RPs, he's participating. Surely that should be enough?

If you searched for his posts I don't think you'll find an RP from before, say... the second round or quarter finals. It seems to me he's only started RPing because he made it this far and it could help him go all the way, which isn't the point of RPing. So in that sense, I do feel he doesn't quite deserve it.

...I don't think you'll find an RP from before, say... the second round or quarter finals...

RPing only when faced in important, exciting matches with opponents who he's likely to know of and have a history with, rather than a succession of faceless non-RPing noobs (The non-RPing noob notwithstanding)!

How very dare he.





Depends which way you look, doesn't it?

(The non-RPing boob notwithstanding)


I can't think of anything funny to say to that, so I'll just quote it and grin stupidly for a bit.

I can't think of anything funny to say to that, so I'll just quote it and grin stupidly for a bit.

One key to the left and a fairly amusing typo :D

RPing only when faced in important, exciting matches with opponents who he's likely to know of and have a history with, rather than a succession of faceless non-RPing noobs (The non-RPing noob notwithstanding)!

Didn't stop others from RPing all the way, did it? Didn't stop me. (By the way, I'd assume Davey Tomson is now not quite welcome in Starblaydia following his little outburst. :D ) 'Sides, his qualifying group (Quakmybush) – or even the group stage (all three; Jeruselem, Vephrall and Archreg) – contained "important" matches with opponents "he's likely to know of and have a history with" too. Also, his second round opponent – Candelaria And Marquez – isn't exactly a "non-RPing noob" (or non-RPing boob for that matter). So your point... doesn't really hold that much water with me. But I digress, Milchama has made it to the final and that's not going to change. Just voicing my personal opinion that I don't particularly appreciate how he's decided to do things. He may have had good reason but you have to admit it's kind of suspicious he's only popped up near the final. That's my opinion, and I've said all that I need to say, so agree or disagree at your prerogative but I feel I had to make it known.

"Popping up near the final" is completely inaccurate, as a brief perusal of Milch's twelve posts in the RP thread will discover. Precisely four have come in the World Cup proper, plus one Group Draw reaction post. Seven of his RPs were posted during the Qualifiers.

So your assertion that "If you searched for his posts I don't think you'll find an RP from before, say... the second round or quarter finals." falls down rather badly. I searched, and you're wrong.

"Popping up near the final" is completely inaccurate, as a brief perusal of Milch's twelve posts in the RP thread will discover. Precisely four have come in the World Cup proper, plus one Group Draw reaction post. Seven of his RPs were posted during the Qualifiers.

So your assertion that "If you searched for his posts I don't think you'll find an RP from before, say... the second round or quarter finals." falls down rather badly. I searched, and you're wrong.

*shrug*

You chose to respond to the original post with an argument; I responded to that argument. Twelve posts from 24 incident days (including two friendly days and two draw days)? "Popped up near the final" continues to be my own personal opinion, but that's subjective and you might have a different definition. (Slightly irrelevant digression and hence in white: Also, notice I said "posts". Barring the one with the backstory I personally don't really consider a random two-person dialogue which is (imo) utterly dull an RP.)

Last post from me on this issue. Argue your point further as much as you'd like, but I have my own opinion which I've expressed and will continue to hold, regardless of whether others agree, just as how I don't expect anyone to change their opinion because of mine. If you continue to disagree then I'd suggest we just agree to disagree.

It's official, Valanora is the new Audioslavia.

I thought that required Final losses?

So did every one have a great Leap Day?

Did the Great Leap-Day Frog come and give you your Leap-day presents?

What do you mean there's no Great Leap-Day Frog?

DAMMIT.

well enjoy this anyway:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Frog_%C5%BE%C3%A1ba.gif/120px-Frog_%C5%BE%C3%A1ba.gif

Oh yeah, my puppet Jeru FC won something.

w00t!

Jeru FC are Cup of Harmony 31 champs :)

Well, this cup we discovered that in any match, Casari may be the equal of any team for two hours- and then it's a coin flip. :p

So did every one have a great Leap Day?

Did the Great Leap-Day Frog come and give you your Leap-day presents?

What do you mean there's no Great Leap-Day Frog?

DAMMIT.

well enjoy this anyway:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Frog_%C5%BE%C3%A1ba.gif/120px-Frog_%C5%BE%C3%A1ba.gif

And a Happy St David's Day too boyo!
http://www.google.co.uk/logos/stdavid08.gif

In preparation for hosting rights to WC60 (I'm planning a long way ahead), I'm wondering if any of the CoH participants would have substantive criticisms to offer (no, "I didn't win the CoH" is not a substantive criticism). If you do, please offer them here, by TG, or email (daehanjeiguk@yahoo.co.kr); since everything gets cluttered easily, I would prefer email.

Thanks!

And hope that those who did participate enjoyed the CoH in its entirety.

No complaints from me, I thought it went pretty smoothly. I guess it would have been nice to escape from Group A alive, but since the final was made up of the two teams ahead of me, that would have been asking a bit much ^_^

Your guys should have also scorinated using the DDR pads. Two of them go at the same time, one for each team, and each letter grade they get is a goal. Longest chain is tiebreaker, then most marvelous, perfect, etc. In case of a tie after all that, the first one to knock the other off their pad with the big foam Q-tips from American Gladiators wins.

In the ongoing Milchama discussion, I'll point out in his defence that before our first round match, he did in fact contact me - purely on his initiative - to clarify out some detailed plot points for our post-match RP.

That he didn't follow through on these suggests to me more of a RL issue than a lack of interest in RP'ing.

But unless he chimes in here, I suppose we'll never know, will we?

Anyway, I for one have no problem with him reaching the final.

I thought that required Final losses?

It's the general sense of being very successful without ever winning. Not quite Audioslavia's equal in futility, but getting close. Maybe the new TnUI.

Post–WC39 and CoH31 rankings: OpenDocument spreadsheet (http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/worldcup/rankings/postWC39/)

Text:

1 Capitalizt SLANI 51.64
2 Milchama 50.93
3 Valanora 50.86
4 Ariddia 45.71
5 Squornshelous 44.36
6 Az-cz 43.86
7 Bettia 37.93
8 Cafundéu 35.93
9 Tynelia 35.29
10 Demot 34.36
Zwangzug 34.36
12 Sel Appa 33.44
13 Jeruselem 32.57
14 Ad’ihan 31.43
15 Northern Bettia 31.00
16 Casari 30.36
17 Quakmybush 28.57
18 The Holy Empire 27.71
19 Wentland 27.64
20 Yafor 2 27.18
21 Bazalonia 26.93
22 Candelaria And Marquez 26.52
23 Oliverry 26.29
24 Bostopia 25.21
25 Vephrall 23.68
26 Daehanjeiguk 22.81
27 Starblaydia 22.27
28 Sorthern Northland 21.864
29 Novapsolu 21.857
30 Kura-Pelland 21.54
31 Qazox 20.79
32 The Archregimancy 20.20
33 Jasīʼyūn 19.80
34 Dance 2 Revolution 16.38
35 Estresse Intenso 15.51
36 Errinundera 15.36
37 Ulzaxid 15.11
38 Lovisa 14.77
39 Jeru FC 13.89
40 Endmile 12.04
41 Scotchpinestan 11.59
42 Prux 10.82
43 Taeshan 10.44
44 The Pazhujeb Islands 9.94
45 The Islands of Qutar 9.54
46 Dancougar 9.45
47 Krytenia 9.43
48 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 9.31
49 Turori 9.29
50 St Samuel 9.09
51 Kelssek 9.07
52 Geisenfried 8.21
53 Hopeless SC 7.70
54 Rejistania 7.43
55 Vilita 7.36
56 Nire and Nire 7.25
57 Beer Served Here 6.89
Minilla Island 6.89
59 Samcoa 6.71
60 Solenial 6.52
61 Jariss 6.36
62 Green wombat 6.27
63 Magnus Valerius 6.26
64 Blouman Empire 6.17
65 Bonto 6.14
66 Kiryu-shi 5.86
67 Kansiov 5.18
68 Acapais 5.04
69 Schiavonia 4.79
70 Gweridijongya 4.71
71 Fujisawan Territories 4.41
72 Cookesland 4.40
73 Rugiero 4.36
74 Naboombu Umbongo 4.00
75 The Lowland Clans 3.79
76 Ashlaea 3.71
Bull_horns_rule 3.71
78 Uiri 3.54
79 Wing Wang Woo 3.14
80 Abu Omar 3.00
Dinos Pizza 3.00
82 Aurendia 2.86
Vikingholm 2.86
84 Oickoidia 2.64
85 Limbrogidlia 2.43
86 McPsychoville 2.29
Vanek Drury Brieres 2.29
88 The Supermarket 2.19
89 95X 2.13
90 Miceland 2.01
91 Cadarnia 2.00
Kalmykstan 2.00
93 Onimar 1.98
94 San Adriano 1.95
95 Alversia 1.94
96 Merovis 1.78
97 Komekong 1.71
Sativaville 1.71
Vuam and Isma 1.71
100 Assegai Developments 1.57
101 New Morrisia 1.46
Tuaim 1.46
103 British Londinium 1.43
The HURD 1.43
Lake Arrowhead 1.43
106 New Brittonia 1.36
107 Thundercliffe 1.35
108 Loutra oreas Elenis 1.29
The Non-RPing N00b 1.29
Turruth Gordur 1.29
111 Jey 1.27
112 Grotewohl 1.21
Swilatia 1.21
114 Spaam 1.18
115 Bushes Been Quaked 1.14
Delesa 1.14
Recluse Island 1.14
118 Kristovenia 1.07
Miamoria 1.07
120 Bergelland 1.06
121 Mallatarsland 1.04
122 East Lithuania 1.00
Kirrin Island 1.00
Konora 1.00
Miroxia 1.00
Tremarendakia 1.00
127 Audioslavia 0.98
128 Bumiroar 0.95
129 Billopesha 0.93
130 Barbeques 0.86
The Crescent Republic 0.86
Minilla Island West 0.86
Patusan 0.86
Rastafariburg 0.86
135 Boyancy 0.79
The Indonesian States 0.79
Integrite 0.79
138 Violitism 0.76
139 Zyla 0.71
140 Naleloospalakintula 0.64
141 Ikoville 0.59
142 The Coshairs 0.57
Wavispa 0.57
144 Nebuleux 0.43
The Turkic Shahdom 0.43
146 Central Prestonia 0.36
147 Evil Polish Donors 0.29
Pinguinum 0.29
Wehrmacher 0.29
150 Ambrose-Douglas 0.14
Randovium 0.14
Rangpur 0.14
153 Algal states 0.00
Carcim 0.00

You, too, can be ranked #1 after just thirty-three cups! :p

Like predicted, I'm 8th.

43rd dudes cowabunga

UGH... 22nd pre-qualifiers, 27th Post-qualifiers, 31st post-cup.

Great now I have to work to make WC XL. :headbang:

Jeruselem 13
Jeru FC = 13 x 3

:p

Sel Appa didn't fall as far as i think they would have.

Prux made a nice jump up to 42nd, my early pick for lowest ranked team to qualify for World Cup XL.

Dancougar up to 46th after one cup?

(Damn newbies, they have so damn easy now. took me 3 WC qualifers to get up that high.)

Puppets in the top 50


10 Demot 34.36
14 Ad’ihan 31.43
15 Northern Bettia 31.00
32 The Archregimancy 20.20
33 Jasīʼyūn 19.80
35 Estresse Intenso 15.51
39 Jeru FC 13.89
48 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 9.31
49 Turori 9.29

Dancougar up to 46th after one cup?

Whoa. That's pretty cool. It's all those awesome Baptism of Fire points, I'm sure of it. Now I'll need some, like, good RPs that aren't just about chickens being on fire.

Who is eligible to vote?

For the World Cup 39 Host vote and for the WCC Presidential vote all WCC members are eligible these members currently are...

WCC Member List:

...
Daehanjeiguk
...

And how does one join this esteemed list of people?

Your $50.00 club fee is due...


Is this a good time to discuss this again?

Is this a good time to discuss this again?

NO. Bad Daehan.. Bad.

Jeruselem 13
Jeru FC = 13 x 3

:p

You're not half-bad. I'm 13x2. Considering the following:

1 = life
2 = death
3 = eternity
4 = rinse
5 = lather
6 = repeat
...

I'm numerically screwed.

NO. Bad Daehan.. Bad.

I think it is. The Emperor is still waiting word on his tribute from the WCC.

Dae, we did tell you the rules for that didn't we?

And on a side note now that James Gaines, is officially no longer is the WCC President and "that Vephrese guy" is. We strongly oppose any membership fee unless it can be demonstrated that it will benefit the NSWC as a whole or us.

You're not half-bad. I'm 13x2. Considering the following:

1 = life
2 = death
3 = eternity
4 = rinse
5 = lather
6 = repeat
...

I'm numerically screwed.

Jeruselem seem to hover around 10-14, and very often 13.
Maybe I am the NS Whore of Babylon!

You're not half-bad. I'm 13x2. Considering the following:

1 = life
2 = death
3 = eternity
4 = rinse
5 = lather
6 = repeat
...

I'm numerically screwed.

Using that

I'm 4x4x3 (Rinse and Rinse for Eternity)

Or 2x6x4 (Death repeated for Eternity)

Yeah... Yafalonia & Bazor 2 don't look good.

Dae, we did tell you the rules for that didn't we?

And on a side note now that James Gaines, is officially no longer is the WCC President and "that Vephrese guy" is. We strongly oppose any membership fee unless it can be demonstrated that it will benefit the NSWC as a whole or us.

(ooc: I know. But I'm in dire need of some side amusement - and I finished reading all of Casari's wiener dog books. On that note, anyone got some spirits? We can have together :fluffle:)

We will only pax these dues if the tribute due to the Emperor is received.

You're not half-bad. I'm 13x2. Considering the following:

1 = life
2 = death
3 = eternity
4 = rinse
5 = lather
6 = repeat
...

I'm numerically screwed.

Dang 31 don't work unless: (6*5)+1 (Repeatedly Lather for Life?)

Dang 31 don't work unless: (6*5)+1 (Repeatedly Lather for Life?)

Brackets are unneceesary according the standard rules of mathematics... BODMAS

Brackets,
Other,
Division and
Multiplication then
Addition and
Subtraction

However the plus would indicate a different operation... so For life seems... wrong

Repeatidly Lather to obtain Life (Sounds almost Philosophical)

Brackets are unneceesary according the standard rules of mathematics... BODMAS

Brackets,
Other,
Division and
Multiplication then
Addition and
Subtraction

However the plus would indicate a different operation... so For life seems... wrong

Repeatidly Lather to obtain Life (Sounds almost Philosophical)

Well some people might interpret it this way: 6* 5+1 or 6*6=36, as Not all of us might have been taught BODMAS

and Yes Repeatedly Lather to obtain Life does sound rather philosophical.

Well some people might interpret it this way: 6* 5+1 or 6*6=36, as Not all of us might have been taught BODMAS

and Yes Repeatedly Lather to obtain Life does sound rather philosophical.

Well, okay, on IRC I've found out that it could be BODMAS, BEDMAS or PEMDAS.

All basically the same thing and all have the order of mathematical operations as Multiplication/Division before Addition/Subraction

Dang 31 don't work unless: (6*5)+1 (Repeatedly Lather for Life?)

It's actually this way:

1=Life
2=Death
3=Eternity
4=Rinse
5=Lather
6=Repeat
7=Heaven
8=Hell
9=Extinction


3 - Eternity
1 - Life
3+1 - Rinse

You will spend eternal life rinsing.

As for me,

2 - Death
6 - Repeat
2+6 - Hell

Death repeats itself in Hell.

Or

1 - Life
3 - Eternal
x2 - Death
1+2+3 - Repeat

LIving to Eternity until Death repeats itself.

Well some people might interpret it this way: 6* 5+1 or 6*6=36, as Not all of us might have been taught BODMAS

and Yes Repeatedly Lather to obtain Life does sound rather philosophical.

The rule of operations don't differ whether you learned BODMAS (Commonwealth), BEDMAS (Canada) or PEMDAS (U.S.); multiplication always comes before addition.

2 - Death
1 - Life
2+1 - Eternity

Death into Life for Eternity (Oooo)

great, now we've turned this into the Math Fourms...lol

2 - Death
1 - Life
2+1 - Eternity

Death into Life for Eternity (Oooo)

OR!!!

7 - Heaven
x3 - Eternity
(7+2)<dies+3+1 - Rinse

Heaven will eternally rinse itself (dammit, that's not bad...)

great, now we've turned this into the Math Fourms...lol

We've converted the ranks into ominous prophecies for the upcoming World Cup XL!!!! Hence, it deserves its place here (besides, I'd much prefer discussing strange numerology than taxes/dues/money in general).

According to Wikipedia (granted not a 100% accurate thing)

the Numbers mean:
0. Everything or absoluteness. All
1. Individual. Aggressor. Yang.
2. Balance. Union. Receptive. Yin.
3. Communication/interaction. Neutrality.
4. Creation.
5. Action. Restlessness.
6. Reaction/flux. Responsibility.
7. Thought/consciousness.
8. Power/sacrifice.
9. Completion.
10. Rebirth

So 31= Neutral Aggressor? sounds kinda like a 5-0-5 formation to me.

(OOC: my 300th post in to this thread..DAMN.)

4. Creation.


The Chinese would beg to differ.

四 = sì (four)
死 = si (death)

LOL, guessing Wikipedia has the American version up. So combining the two, means that 4 would be Creating Death... nice.

LOL, guessing Wikipedia has the American version up. So combining the two, means that 4 would be Creating Death... nice.

GAH!!! Sino-American relations must be terminated!!! OR ELSE WE'RE CREATING DEATH!!!!

dammit, we've wasted one entire page (15 posts) on numerology...

You run short pages.

I'm happy to give up 46th place to Dancougar, but hopefully he won't follow me and take over 16th. :p

You run short pages.

I'm happy to give up 46th place to Dancougar, but hopefully he won't follow me and take over 16th. :p

If anyone's going to take umbrage with Dancougar being 46th, it'll be Mr. 47 here. :p

I could take issue with Dancougar being ranked ahead of me since they haven't proven they're better than I am by beating me...or scoring on me for that matter.:p

...Of course, by that same standard I should be unranked, because I can't seem to beat anyone.:rolleyes:

Yes, yes...I know that I can't win if I don't score, so don't start up on that again.

Enough ranting.

Getting back to the original purpose of this post...if you haven't seen the WC RP thread, I just fired my Head Coach. If anybody has an available candidate that they'd be willing to send my way, please TG me with a brief profile, coaching record, and why you think they'd be a good coach for the Wanderers. (hint: I'm planning on becoming more offensively-minded and will be adjusting my roster for WC 40 accordingly)

dammit, we've wasted one entire page (15 posts) on numerology...

Isn't the entire basis of this thread based on ... random numbers! :p

Predicting a major upset here, as Tynelia fall to Wentland and Bazalonia. Daehanjeiguk may even send the top seeds to the bottom of the group...
Az-cz had an almighty scare this time last Cup, which nobody else remembers it seems, and we're going to predict the mother and father of all upsets - it's going to happen again...
As for the whole thing...SLANI will win it.Okay, several mistakes and less impressive predictions, but that's still pretty good. Congratulations Kura-Pelland, SLANI, and thanks to everyone who made this the most RPed Cup in a year.

Bwahahaha, look out Casari, I'm coming for you. The Cake Pan will be mine!! :-D

Puppets in the top 50


10 Demot 34.36
14 Ad’ihan 31.43
15 Northern Bettia 31.00
32 The Archregimancy 20.20
33 Jasīʼyūn 19.80
35 Estresse Intenso 15.51
39 Jeru FC 13.89
48 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 9.31
49 Turori 9.29



It's worth clarifying, however, that I continue to consider the Archregimancy to be my 'primary' nation for both RP and OOC posts. That I officially sign it up as a puppet of the Holy Empire for the WC these days is largely a technicality to maintain consistency between sign-ups and the IC relationship between the two nations.

So while on the face of it, the rankings table superficially seems to reinforce the idea that puppets are usually ranked below a primary nation, in this particular case it's arguably the reverse, with the secondary nation ranked 14 places above the primary nation even though the primary nation is officially the puppet.

Did that make sense to anyone other than myself?

Did that make sense to anyone other than myself?

Sense, yes. Relevancy, no. :D

I'm getting more and more worried by style-modifier inflation. I'm becoming more and more defensive my remaining a 0.

What happened with having to RP massively odd results? :p

It's worth clarifying, however, that I continue to consider the Archregimancy to be my 'primary' nation for both RP and OOC posts. That I officially sign it up as a puppet of the Holy Empire for the WC these days is largely a technicality to maintain consistency between sign-ups and the IC relationship between the two nations.

So while on the face of it, the rankings table superficially seems to reinforce the idea that puppets are usually ranked below a primary nation, in this particular case it's arguably the reverse, with the secondary nation ranked 14 places above the primary nation even though the primary nation is officially the puppet.

Did that make sense to anyone other than myself?

Thanks, I get confused whether if AIF or the Monks are the main nation. You are the exception in this case :)

A few hours late (largely due to unexpected traffic difficulties), the results are, in a sense, in.

After what is probably the lowest voter turnout in NSWC history, with precisely 25 percent of eligible voters casting a ballot, the results for Baptism of Fire hosting rights are:

Starblaydia - 6
Reopen bids - 0

Starblaydia shall host the next Baptism of Fire.

Meanwhile, the deadline for World Cup hosting bids is Wednesday 5 March at 0200 GMT (9pm Tuesday on the east coast of North America).

A few hours late (largely due to unexpected traffic difficulties), the results are, in a sense, in.

After what is probably the lowest voter turnout in NSWC history, with precisely 25 percent of eligible voters casting a ballot, the results for Baptism of Fire hosting rights are:

Starblaydia - 6
Reopen bids - 0

Starblaydia shall host the next Baptism of Fire.
The lowest turnout since the last vote (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13450281&postcount=2666), anyway… :p

It took Jeruselem just 7 cups to qualify, only 7 :p
4 for me. Missed my 3rd on one match. :(

If you searched for his posts I don't think you'll find an RP from before, say... the second round or quarter finals. It seems to me he's only started RPing because he made it this far and it could help him go all the way, which isn't the point of RPing. So in that sense, I do feel he doesn't quite deserve it.
Even though this has been proven false, i think it better to at least RP at some point rather than never. I had this on my mind when it became a real posibility that I could go deep into the Cup and am not a reliable RPer. How many people would want to face a non-RPer in the final...

Oh yeah, my puppet Jeru FC won something.

w00t!

Jeru FC are Cup of Harmony 31 champs :)
Double BOO: That I'm not it and that I lost to the loser.

In preparation for hosting rights to WC60 (I'm planning a long way ahead), I'm wondering if any of the CoH participants would have substantive criticisms to offer (no, "I didn't win the CoH" is not a substantive criticism). If you do, please offer them here, by TG, or email (daehanjeiguk@yahoo.co.kr); since everything gets cluttered easily, I would prefer email.

Thanks!

And hope that those who did participate enjoyed the CoH in its entirety.
It was a good show. I like that Jeong guy and your IC stuff infused with the scores, draw, etc. I'm interested in hosting with you in the future. :)

12 Sel Appa 33.44
How depressing...

UGH... 22nd pre-qualifiers, 27th Post-qualifiers, 31st post-cup.

Great now I have to work to make WC XL. :headbang:
SUTF! That's nothing compared to dropping out of top 10 and losing something you were favored heavily to win.

0. Everything or absoluteness. All
Irony.

I'm getting more and more worried by style-modifier inflation. I'm becoming more and more defensive my remaining a 0.

What happened with having to RP massively odd results? :p
I like odd results. If I ever make a scorinator, it will turn out something crazy once every 3 cups or so like 20-0 or something.

The lowest turnout since the last vote (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13450281&postcount=2666), anyway… :p
Don't remind me...


Seems I was delivered the typical 3 bad things:
-not qualifying
-not hosting CoH
-not winning the CoH

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2765/bofbanneruv8.jpg

The Tildes Skills School of Universitus University, in conjunction with The Universitus West Department of Business and The Universitus Aeri Department of Mathematics, presents a Hosting Bid for the 28th Baptism of Fire for consideration by the Emergency World Cup Committee

Members of the EWCC,

I am very pleased to announce a collaborative effort among three distinct departments of Universitus in order to coordinate an acceptable effort to host the 28th installment of the Baptism of Fire Tournament. The Mathematics Department, Business Department, and The Tildes Skills School, are combining their efforts and particular skills in order to ensure that this future tournament will run smoothly. The Mathematics Department will contribute its brightest students from the Westford College of Statistics to oversee the proper management of points and other numerical stats, The Business Department will contribute its best from the McGovern College of Event Administration to help manage the day-to-day aspects of the tournament, and of course, The Hoya College of Soccer of The Tildes Skills School at Universitus will be of great assistance.

Given that our past two considerations of hosting this tournament have been discontinued due to the opening of the voting process, to ensure that our bid will be considered, we are posting this extremely early in the next process. As such, with no information available regarding the number of participants, only a rough outline of the policy of the tournament will be available at this time.

Such policies include:

The use of NationStates FootySim v. 2.0.1 (Release Date: 11 August 2006)
The use of Points, then Head-to-Head match ups, then Goal Differentiation, then Most Goals Scored, then Least Goals Allowed in breaking ties among nations in the Group Stage(s)
RolePlay Bonuses of up to 1.5 points per contribution and 2.75 on every match day.

Unfortunately, no other information is available at this time.

As we have mentioned in the past, we are open to the idea of co-hosting this event with a nation that has had more hosting experience, though to this date we have not been contacted for such a collaborative effort. If it is unpleasing to the committee that we host this event individually, we will be extremely amenable to the prospects of sharing this hosting responsibility.

We hope that the Emergency World Cup Committee looks favorably on our bid to host the 28th Baptism of Fire. We look forward to working to ensure that this tournament is coordinated and administrated with outstanding efficiency worthy of this University's and this Committee's sponsorship.

Thank you very much for your consideration,
Dr. Rigorus Satact
President of Universitus University
In The Allied Empire of Jey

Representing:

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Double BOO: That I'm not it and that I lost to the loser.


Oi, why complain to me - ask the CoH hosts! :D
I was expecting Jeru FC to make the final and do a Milchama.

I have nearly just fell out of my chair.

Goto: http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFAVase/Results/

Click on the + next to Kirkham & Wesham -v- Coventry Sphinx.

Look at the attendance.

I'm so glad me and my mate didn't go, that would have ruined EVERYTHING.

Look at the attendance.

That's fairly scary, actually. Doubly so as I read the bit below the attendance as 'Roleplay Required'.

That's fairly scary, actually. Doubly so as I read the bit below the attendance as 'Roleplay Required'.

I can't help but get the feeling that I'm turning up to the replay on Saturday - that's right, this Saturday the 8th of March at Sphinx Drive, off Siddeley Avenue, Coventry (about 15mins run from Bos' house while being chased by Han crickets) - kickoff 3PM, tickets £5, programme £1.50 - wearing a full suit of armour and reading a script from a notepad?

I have nearly just fell out of my chair.

Goto: http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFAVase/Results/

Click on the + next to Kirkham & Wesham -v- Coventry Sphinx.

Look at the attendance.

I'm so glad me and my mate didn't go, that would have ruined EVERYTHING.

1093 in attendance? What was there a county fair or something scheduled for the same time or did everyone go to the movies?

1093 in attendance? What was there a county fair or something scheduled for the same time or did everyone go to the movies?

1) This is 8 leagues below the Premier League ;) (my team can't get promoted even one division because our ground isn't fully enclosed and me and my mate speculate that the Sphinx's finances are whatever shrapnel the club chairman has in his pockets)

2) It's actually pretty high for that level, Sphinx home league games average about 125 I'd say.

3) 1093 is the best IRC-thingy ever.

3) 1093 is the best IRC-thingy ever.

1093 explained (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/1093.html).

1093 explained (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/1093.html).

Finally... I can die happy now.

Finally... I can die happy now.

Honestly, it wasn't actually worth waiting for.

I can't help but get the feeling that I'm turning up to the replay on Saturday - that's right, this Saturday the 8th of March at Sphinx Drive, off Siddeley Avenue, Coventry (about 15mins run from Bos' house while being chased by Han crickets) - kickoff 3PM, tickets £5, programme £1.50 - wearing a full suit of armour and reading a script from a notepad?

£5 for tickets? £1.50 for programe? Rip off.

Tickets are about £3 at Reading Town I think. And you can buy food for less than £3. And it doesn't get served it fancy arse boxes like the ones at Arsenal and Wembley.

True and Reading Town are like my 2nd team after Reading FC and seeing as the Madjeski is always at capacity it's a decent alternative.

But where are your Russian suitors supposed to sit?

But where are your Russian suitors supposed to sit?

In their helicopters, just above the stadium, directing a following wind towards the opposition goalmouth.

True and Reading Town are like my 2nd team after Reading FC and seeing as the Madjeski is always at capacity it's a decent alternative.
Another Reading fan? :cool:

But where are your Russian suitors supposed to sit?

In Reading? We have rich men from Stoke on Trent instead.

In their helicopters, just above the stadium, directing a following wind towards the opposition goalmouth.

Wouldn't they want to do that once they get the team? I'm not sure the process of Russians buying teams, we usually have cocks from Alberta trying for ours.

In keeping with ancient WC ideas (17-19, to be precise) we have a World Cup 40 Referee Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551016), for which you may wish to contribute a ref or two.

BoF refs will be drawn from that thread, if nothing else.

Credit to Vilita, too, for the original idea, all them cups ago,

The Football Federation of Sel Appa is strongly opposed to this bid and urges the Emergency World Cup Committee to not allow this bid and not be swayed by its impressive display. Jey cannot be trusted to host a tournament after they so curtly withdrew from the World Cup when they didn't get their way.

I have nearly just fell out of my chair.

Goto: http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFAVase/Results/

Click on the + next to Kirkham & Wesham -v- Coventry Sphinx.

Look at the attendance.

I'm so glad me and my mate didn't go, that would have ruined EVERYTHING.
wow that's crazy.

1093 explained (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/1093.html).
I MADE THAT PAGE! Just thought I'd add...


Ooh referee thread...

"Another Reading fan?"

Yeah I was at the Boro game and we finally won a game, me and my mates reckon we can pull this off now

Aye defiantly, I was always confident we'd stay up but I was starting to get a bit worried, but hopefully we're back to winning games now.

Yeah I think Steve Cop's been to easy on players like Doyle who could do much better

Aye Doyler's been poor this year, not a big fan of Lita but he's been banging them in for the reserves lately he's gotta be worth a try.

I think I speak for the entirety of the WCDT readers when I say the following:

Do shut up about Reading.

Ahem. In other news, I'm looking for just one more team for the BoF for a round twenty, then will begin things.

:D

You sure we don't want to turn this into the Reading FC discussion thread? :p

Not long to go till the BoF then hopefully.

The Football Federation of Sel Appa is strongly opposed to this bid and urges the Emergency World Cup Committee to not allow this bid and not be swayed by its impressive display. Jey cannot be trusted to host a tournament after they so curtly withdrew from the World Cup when they didn't get their way.

I'd really like for you to explain, in detail, exactly why Universitus' tirade over its loss equates to a perception of untrustworthiness to you. Universitus lost, it got angry, it fired people, it was incapacitated for the World Cup and thus withdrew. I'm struggling to understand how this makes Universitus untrustworthy. To me, it seems that you just don't like/agree with Universitus' decision.

To me, it seems that you just don't like/agree with Universitus' decision.

Given that it's Sel Appa, I'm inclined to agree with you. However, as far as I know, Star's already got the BoF, but I've been out of the loop for over a week, so I really have no idea.

Nevertheless, if it does come down to it, I'd be glad to support your bid, since I'm all for new people hosting, and you seem like a good enough RP'er, from what I can see.

I'm not the WCC Pres any more so I can say these things...

Are you a member of the EWCC? No? Then please don't say what anyone has a right to or not to do. The incident of the Universitus withdrawl will be considered in whatever decision the EWCC makes but it won't be the only factor.

The Universitus has a right to bid for the BoF as much as anyone else, and if they get it or not is a matter for the EWCC and the EWCC only.

However, as far as I know, Star's already got the BoF, but I've been out of the loop for over a week, so I really have no idea.
Jey is bidding for the next BoF (for WC41).

Jey is bidding for the next BoF (for WC41).

Alrighty, thanks CH.

Anyway, Jey, even though I'm not EWCC either (since I'm too lazy/incompetent ever to host a World Cup), I'm behind your bid 109.3%.

I'd really like for you to explain, in detail, exactly why Universitus' tirade over its loss equates to a perception of untrustworthiness to you. Universitus lost, it got angry, it fired people, it was incapacitated for the World Cup and thus withdrew. I'm struggling to understand how this makes Universitus untrustworthy. To me, it seems that you just don't like/agree with Universitus' decision.
Universitus's pompousness and arrogance in withdrawing over a loss, as well as being a sore loser. I don't think it can be trusted with hosting because of their bias and high thought of themselves.

I'm not the WCC Pres any more so I can say these things...

Are you a member of the EWCC? No? Then please don't say what anyone has a right to or not to do. The incident of the Universitus withdrawl will be considered in whatever decision the EWCC makes but it won't be the only factor.

The Universitus has a right to bid for the BoF as much as anyone else, and if they get it or not is a matter for the EWCC and the EWCC only.
Sel Appa asserts its right to lobby the EWCC and redress its grievances.

I don't think it can be trusted with hosting because of their bias and high thought of themselves.

But...Universitus could not legally play in a Universitus-hosted BoF, both as its host and as a past participant. We still don't understand this, and if you are going to lobby the EWCC about this, we will certainly defend against each point.

I vaguely recall an old show from years back where the visor guy from Star Trek offered his humble opinions on the week's fixtures and had some children who happened to be nearby give objective analysis on the lineup and other miscellanea. I think it was called Reading Rainbow, but don't take my word for it.

Jeruselem and Jeru FC seem to be only regular World Cup teams starting with J .. :p

Unless Jey, signs up ...

Let's play GUESS! THE! PUPPET!

But...Universitus could not legally play in a Universitus-hosted BoF, both as its host and as a past participant. We still don't understand this, and if you are going to lobby the EWCC about this, we will certainly defend against each point.

Sel Appa wishes to clarify that bias was not the proper choice of word.

Top Ten Posters
302 Qazox
299 Jeruselem
248 Sel Appa
179 Daehanjeiguk
155 Casari
154 Starblaydia
127 Az-cz
126 Bazalonia
114 Liverpool England
114 The Archregimancy

Let's play GUESS! THE! PUPPET!

Illegal Immigrants -> Irritating Conservatives -> A Hard Line Conservative Interested In Making Fun Of The "Stupidity" Of Illegal Immigrants -> Bostopia! :p

Illegal Immigrants -> Irritating Conservatives -> A Hard Line Conservative Interested In Making Fun Of The "Stupidity" Of Illegal Immigrants -> Bostopia! :p
Nope. Try Again. There's also a logical problem with that guess.

Let's play GUESS! THE! PUPPET!

Is that you C&M?

Is that you C&M?
No, senorita.