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Look what you did! We both lost :p


My belated apologies on return from holiday.

Obviously I was addled and confused; I would have been happy to wish you luck had I been paying enough attention to realise you were the other semi-finalist, and not Han.

God knows what I was thinking.

Still, third's the best ever finish for a Dreamed Realm team, so I don't have much to complain about....


EDIT:
Have just been going through TGs, dossiers, etc., and following the news that Tanah Burung was recently revived and plans on participating in the World Cup under a slightly different name, another old timer in the Holy Empire's dossier since all the way back from 2003 has reappeared....

Total n Utter Insanity revived 14 days ago.

Check sig for final appearances...

One semi in 17 World Cups is the best "other".

3 finals appearences

Gridiron World championship Champs
WBC 6 Lost
Oxen Cup loss

All cups: Never anything good.

Quite easy. I'm back to take some cups home, starting with the CoH. Dang, it'd be good if anyone'd remember me :)

All cups: Never anything good.

Quite easy. I'm back to take some cups home, starting with the CoH. Dang, it'd be good if anyone'd remember me :)

Yeah, I remember you - you didn't win a lot but you tried.

Well, I've been on NS for four and a half years...and reached a grand total of one final (AOCAF Cup 7, since you ask).

Oh, and I am now back from holiday. Hi!

Well, I've been on NS for four and a half years...and reached a grand total of one final (AOCAF Cup 7, since you ask).

Oh, and I am now back from holiday. Hi!

Hi! right back at ya.

Now that the CoH is over, as is the World Cup.

Two things of business:

1- Does anyone have the latest KPB Rankings?

2- Is ther any interest in me hosting the 8th Oxen Cup? 'Cause I will if there is any interest. (meaning at least 10 teams or so)

Qazox, I would be interested in another Oxen Cup, especially as I've got no Baptism of Fire to enter having already done that.

Approximately when do you all see baptism of fire 30 beginning?

Just looking for a general time frame: early-Oct, mid-Oct, late- Oct, November, etc.

It'll probably be from early-Oct to mid-Oct. I'm just hoping for more sign-ups.

As for the KPB rankings, I can update them with speed, as I've already updated the WC results, but not the CoH ones. I'll do it today.

Link for the Rankings (ODS file) (http://www.savefile.com/files/1809732)

*I was going to make the excel version too, but I made a mess while updating it and gave up.

So, you can see the rankings below too:

1 Valanora 61,73
2 Zwangzug 44,96
3 Capitalizt SLANI 44,59
4 Bostopia 43,82
5 The Archregimancy 40,61
6 Milchama 36,65
7 Starblaydia 36,57
8 Cafundéu 34,80
9 Qazox 33,78
10 Daehanjeiguk 33,72
11 Jeruselem 33,49
12 Tynelia 33,30
13 Bazalonia 32,87
14 Ad’ihan 31,71
15 Wentland 31,69
16 Vephrall 31,65
17 Kura-Pelland 31,03
18 Yafor 2 30,89
19 Demot 30,17
20 The Holy Empire 29,71
21 Candelaria And Marquez 28,59
22 Jasīʼyūn 28,22
23 Dancougar 27,56
24 Bettia 24,00
25 Sorthern Northland 23,78
26 Az-cz 22,09
27 Sel Appa 21,35
28 Septentrionia 21,29
29 Lovisa 20,89
30 Rennidan 20,06
31 Krytenia 19,81
32 Quakmybush 19,53
33 Kelssek 19,05
34 Jeru FC 18,32
35 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 17,94
36 Northern Bettia 16,70
37 Prux 16,40
38 Blouman Empire 16,15
39 Taeshan 16,05
40 Squornshelous 15,81
41 Casari 15,40
42 Newmanistan 13,79
43 Kose and the Turkomans 13,03
44 Kereca 12,96
45 Magna Sancta Sedes 11,88
46 KaMaRi 11,35
47 Acapais 10,75
48 Green wombat 10,71
49 Nire and Nire 10,40
50 Terreiro de Ogum 10,07
51 The Macabees 9,84
52 Land de Wood 9,23
53 Kiryu-shi 8,33
54 Universitus University 8,17
55 West Zirconia 7,95
56 Kosovoe 7,55
57 Kenavt 7,28
58 Arroza 7,16
59 Glaycia 6,43
60 An Blascaod Mor 6,02
61 Kanji Starter 5,03
62 New Zomboria 4,85
63 Cypron 4,70
64 Greal 4,55
65 Jariss 4,37
66 The Pazhujeb Islands 4,36
67 Liventia 4,33
68 Cokenia 4,33
69 Orion Star Empire 3,98
70 Vonks 3,74
71 We Hate Football 3,64
72 Spazican States 3,64
73 Gweridijongya 3,50
74 Dance 2 Revolution 3,44
75 Magnus Valerius 3,40
76 Legalese 3,17
77 Ron Paulovia 3,15
78 Icy Cold Death Touch 3,12
79 East Ying 3,00
80 Cauci 2,70
81 Lithima 2,60
82 Nethertopia 2,35
83 Frontenax 2,31
84 Tokyoni 2,24
85 Algal states 2,20
85 Kolanderaz 2,20
87 Aleos 2,19
88 United Hetzel 2,10
89 Dennisov 2,05
90 Fujisawan Territories 2,02
91 Free Krytenian Rebels 2,00
91 Kansiov 2,00
91 Roddyville 2,00
91 The Indonesian States 2,00
95 SFRS 1,98
96 Zarbli 1,96
97 Dariusville 1,95
98 Pablicosta 1,91
99 Nehrland 1,84
100 Naggetski 1,78
101 Wijaska Island 1,73
102 Hryvinia 1,70
103 Linpada 1,67
104 Bearbears 1,65
105 Scotchpinestan 1,60
105 The Islands of Qutar 1,60
107 Solenial 1,57
108 Ma Raque 1,55
109 Abaio 1,50
109 Agroprom 1,50
111 Corivia 1,40
111 Fmjphoenix 1,40
111 Hockey Canada 1,40
114 Europa Brittania 1,33
115 Novapsolu 1,30
116 Unified Beretania 1,24
117 Eighthgraderistan 1,20
117 Kirrin Island 1,20
117 Ruskastan 1,20
117 SouthSuburbia 1,20
121 Alversia 1,02
122 Ixania 1,00
122 The Daleks 2 1,00
124 Beer Served Here 0,90
124 Hopeless SC 0,90
124 Krasslor 0,90
124 Lethislavania 0,90
124 Pantocratoria 0,90
129 Tomarian 0,82
130 Kannone 0,79
131 Ofedestan 0,78
132 Aqua Teen Hungerland 0,70
132 New Cimeran 0,70
134 Prazkoy 0,68
135 Lindginis Insania 0,64
136 East Antairees 0,60
136 Uiri 0,60
138 Sesquipedalianist 0,50
139 Hopeful SC 0,40
139 Iansisle 0,40
139 NS Illegal Immigrants 0,40
142 Nuevos Aires 0,36
142 Sineki 0,36
144 Montgisard 0,33
145 Gwaine 0,31
146 Kalmykstan 0,30
147 Talon Deil 0,25
148 Okuni 0,20
148 Sarejavo 0,20
150 Central Prestonia 0,00
150 Gerainia 0,00
150 United Island Empires 0,00
153 Naboombu Umbongo -5,80
154 Diojiu -6,40
155 Engbec -7,00

Woo! 30th!

I also find it ironic that I am now ahead of Krytenia, who was a host in the first WC I played in.


Oh, and FIFA says I'm Poland.

4th? Me? But? What? How?

I am as worried as the rest of you.

So those are the post-CoH rankings? Interesting.

39th, and 56th yeah, i lost possitions. And q i am perhaps interested in returning to the Oxen Cup after a two year absence, although i was thinking that we could add a new twist. If there are 16(or any number divided into 4 evenly) we could have groups in all four main Q Continuum nations. (although all scorinated by you) Or some in Taeshan, just as a you knowpromoter of Soccer in Taeshan and national interest in the sport.

I would call 31st fair, probably will drop out of the top 32 after the Finals though.

Oh well.

I can't believe we're already as high as 55th.
(Which equates us with Belgium, it would appear.)

However, seeing incipient rivals Land de Wood three places above us is cause for concern...

9 Qazox 33,78
10 Daehanjeiguk 33,72
11 Jeruselem 33,49


This thread biggest spammers are lumped together! :)

PS - I'm a cheese eating surrender monkey according to FIFA.

Lettme See:

FIFA: Portugal
Elo: Cheese-eating Surrender Monkeys a.k.a France.

Since there seems to be some call for it, the Oxen Cup 8 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14046323#post14046323) is on!

I'm actually pretty impressed with MSS - going from sub-100 to 45 in one Cup. It took me three cups to get even above 45 with Han...

And since everyone else seems intent on doing it:

Han - Turkey (Croatia)
MSS - Senegal (ROK)

Prux 37th, I think I dropped a spot didn't I and I qualifed for the World Cup.

I'll join in too:

Prux:: Morocco (FIFA)
Prux:: Ghana (Elo)

I'll do 1 better an throw in my AQB team as well

Prux:: Morocco (AQB)

So Prux is an African Nation no matter what then huh? LOL

omg i live

FIFA: Northern Ireland
ELO: Isreal

Up to #42... a nice climb.

Real World equivalents at #42:
FIFA- Finland (Would rather be Finland in hockey!)
ELO- Honduras

We'll go with Finland!

omg i live

FIFA: Northern Ireland
ELO: Isreal

Took ya long enough. So you ever gonna RP again?

Yeah, I remember you - you didn't win a lot but you tried.

It's the least i could do. I prefer the joy of making RP posts more than winning prizes. At least, i guess.

EDIT: On the rankings: Still 85th? Didn't expect that...

Rwanda is on that position in the FIFA world rankings. Meh...

Up to #42... a nice climb.

Real World equivalents at #42:
FIFA- Finland (Would rather be Finland in hockey!)
ELO- Honduras

We'll go with Finland!

Honduras has a better chance to qualify.
ELO - Canada. Canada plays soccer?
FIFA - Angola. I don't even know what to say here.

Took ya long enough. So you ever gonna RP again?



haha maybe, I have some ideas I suppose

ELO - Canada. Canada plays soccer?

Oli/Sept can tell you all about it. ;) *shouts "Jonathan de Guzman and Owen Hargreaves" and hides*

OFFICIAL NETHERTOPIAN PRESS RELEASE

We are currently looking for a replacement of Rob Kietecs, the last known manager of our national team. We seek an experienced manager, capable of leading our team to higher regions on the World Rankings as we are now.

Nethertopia is ranked 85th on the list and we want our country to develop in one of the top tiers of the world. We have the players to do so, peticuarly pointing towards talents. Current captain is the 34 year old striker Aboulaye Soro, who will play his last season in the Nethertopian team. Some older names from the previous national team will still be in it, as some new talents.

Interested managers can send an application directed to the NFA through telegraph.

Bostopia is the Netherlands. We're high as a kite with our rank and success, not for any other reason.

Honest.

Meh... It's just that the Dutchies always have easy qualifiers and not so good friendlies. I don't like their play. Mostly.

just felt like offering this comic for public audience:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/umedia/20080928/cp.956be4379df4c7016138f5a5e546fb40

just felt like offering this comic for public audience:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/umedia/20080928/cp.956be4379df4c7016138f5a5e546fb40

WAP! Classic.

Only indirectly associated with the WC, this, but after much faffing about, I've finally changed the Archregimancy and Holy Empire flags to the flags I always wanted to have, instead of the ghastly oversized monstrosities I've been struggling with for the last three years.

And I've also finally succumbed and given both nations avatars.

Just asking for an opinion here for the now fifth in the world Archregimancy...

What avatar do you think works best for the monks? The shapely young monk to the left, or the new Archregimancy flag (http://www.nationstates.net/the_archregimancy)?

The Holy Empire will simply use the new national flag.

the monk - no doubt about it.

Also, for you new sport fans!

""Here is a great way to spend a winter day. First, put on a nice warm Speedo. You want to be sure you stay warm and maniacal. Next, fill a thermos full of hot steamy glycerol. Now you are ready to go snow stirring!

Some people say only experts should go snow stirring, but I think anyone can do it if you use a little common sense. I have heard a rumor that Aristotle will be offering special snow stirring classes after school at Oxford, but I don't know if that's true.

The best place to go snow stirring is on a hill that is covered with snow. First you will want to clear away any leaves and magpies. Stand at the top of the hill and shout, “Hey, everybody, file out below!” Then step onto a gorge, point yourself downhill, and off you go.

Snow stirring is fun, healthy, and adamant. And here is one more tip: everyone will be especially impressed if you can balance a bacterium on your head or play a tooting fairy as you sail by.""

Not that I'm in anyway Germanic-loving or have a Prussian flag (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/d/de_prus1.gif) on my ceiling or anything, but the double headed eagles are cool. Go with those.

OFFICIAL NETHERTOPIAN PRESS RELEASE

We are currently looking for a replacement of Rob Kietecs, the last known manager of our national team. We seek an experienced manager, capable of leading our team to higher regions on the World Rankings as we are now.

Nethertopia is ranked 85th on the list and we want our country to develop in one of the top tiers of the world. We have the players to do so, peticuarly pointing towards talents. Current captain is the 34 year old striker Aboulaye Soro, who will play his last season in the Nethertopian team. Some older names from the previous national team will still be in it, as some new talents.

Interested managers can send an application directed to the NFA through telegraph.

ANOTHER OFFICIAL NETHERTOPIAN PRESS RELEASE

We've appointed a new managerial pair to our team. We'll reveal them at the start of the Oxen Cup 8. We want to thank the persons who signed up, but didn't make the job, and wish them luck with their careers.

I Originally posted this in the World Bowl Discussion Thread, but for those in the NSUniverse at large who are planning to host anything in the future, this might help:

JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE:
A: Double-Check your scheduling.
B: Double-Check your tiebreakers (every matchday)
C: Double-Check your MATH! (every matchday; VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, Use pen and paper on the side if you have to.)
D: Ask for help if you need it!
E: Remember, even though this is for fun, If you don't take hosting seriously, then they won't take you seriously.

(my combined 1100th post on this and the old NSWCDT)

I Originally posted this in the World Bowl Discussion Thread, but for those in the NSUniverse at large who are planning to host anything in the future, this might help:

JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE:
A: Double-Check your scheduling.
B: Double-Check your tiebreakers (every matchday)
C: Double-Check your MATH! (every matchday; VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, Use pen and paper on the side if you have to.)
D: Ask for help if you need it!
E: Remember, even though this is for fun, If you don't take hosting seriously, then they won't take you seriously.

(my combined 1100th post on this and the old NSWCDT)

Ummm, the answer is E. And that's my final answer!

Seeing as I made a shameless plug to the WC43 signup thread in my thread on the World Championship of Rugball, I think it's only fair I shamelessly plug my competition in here.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=567745

Plus, hosting experience in my own thing means I'm getting experience for the BoF/CoH/WC. Mind you, with the flood of bids, I may *not* be needed ;)

(apologies for shameless plug, it won't happen again until I have another competition to plug, promise)

Also, in reference to the WCDT, thanks Qazox for your helpful tips (woop, kinda back on topic). Go Bostopian World Cup 43 team! Go team! Go team go! Woo!

OFFICIAL (and final, from me) PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

The results are in - who will be the next president of the World Cup Committee?


In fourth place...nobody. You'll understand in a moment.

In third place...we have a tie (see?). Cafundéu and the Unified Capitalizt States each received 3 votes.

In second place...Zwangzug, with 4 votes.

Which means, with a total of 8 votes in favor, our new World Cup Committee president is...the Archregimancy!

Congratulations! I'm not sure what the rules in the Archregimancy are on the wearing of hats, but nevertheless I hand the official presidential hat off to you. If you can't wear it, just stick it on your desk or something, I guess.

Thanks for a great last few Cups, everyone, and let's hope the next few are even better.

OFFICIAL (and final, from me) PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT


Thanks Veph! (for the lovely title, of which I have no need to copy and paste now :P )

Now for the distinct pleasure (or not) of presenting the FIXED results of the WC43 Hosting:

The WC43 Hosts shall not be subject to a revote and thus shall be Vephrall and Valanora! Congrats!

*me puts on a VV pin generously donated by the Coalition to Bring the World Cup to Two Venerably Vexillary Countries.*

*me also puts on the pin, created by the Campaign to Elect Arch and Zwang to the WCC President*

what????? Dae

what????? Dae

Think about it ... Vephrall was one of the bidders for WC43, he could not collect the votes. Hence a 3rd party like Han/Dae/Cricket man was needed.

WTG Arch! and remember who nominated ya, throw them a dukeship or something :p

Yeah i knew that but hes says you will not host then says congrats.

*snip*

*snap*

*snup*

Just to clarify - Vephrall and Valanora have been confirmed by the WCC to host the next World Cup. The vote was a 7-1 majority in favor of the hosting bid. And just to clarify also, Vephrall did select me to collect votes for the WC43 Hosting Bid, as he could not ethically collect the votes for which he was contesting (maybe unethically, but that's another story). The decision was publicly noted in this post linked here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14037261&postcount=6246). <<< YES CLICK THERE!

Hopefully, this clears any confusion over the matter.

EDIT:::

Yeah i knew that but hes says you will not host then says congrats.

Oh... um... highlight over the blank spaces... :p

Anyways one guess who the person who didn't vote for them is. (points fingure at himself)

Thanks for the congratulations, and thanks for those who voted for me, but...

Didn't we have a rule somewhere stating that there had to be a French-style run-off vote if no candidate received a majority?

Or am I confusing that with something else?


And while I voted for the sole WC hosting bid, it looks like I sent my vote to the wrong nation <sigh>

Actually Arch is right, there is a rule on the books that the WCC "has to have a majority"

but whether that's done as a French-style runoff, IRV ala Australia or a simply majority of the original vote. Doesn't say... Though in this case with a total of 18 votes, 10 votes are required for a majority. Arch didn't reach this so technically, there needs to be some other vote taken.

Okay.

I see at least two problems with this situation.

First:

Didn't we have a rule somewhere stating that there had to be a French-style run-off vote if no candidate received a majority?

Do we? That's a legitimate question; I really don't know. Probably due to the complete lack of any modern location where the rules and regulations of the WCC are spelled out.

Second:

In the assumption that this rule does exist...thank you all very much for waiting until the end of the vote to point this out and making me waste over a week of everyone's time, including mine. Wouldn't it have been a hell of a lot more useful to raise this concern, oh I don't know, last Thursday?

Thanks for leaving me totally out to dry, guys. Very much appreciated.

I've looked through the Presidential Announcements Thread...

and I have found something.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13029931&postcount=54
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13050517&postcount=55

This seems to only apply to proposals being made not Presidential Votes.

It looks like this is what me and Arch remember and does not affect Arch's selection as president.

Second:

In the assumption that this rule does exist...thank you all very much for waiting until the end of the vote to point this out and making me waste over a week of everyone's time, including mine. Wouldn't it have been a hell of a lot more useful to raise this concern, oh I don't know, last Thursday?

Thanks for leaving me totally out to dry, guys. Very much appreciated.

Baz seems to think that it's not a problem, but even if it had been....

You would still have had to collate and announce all of the votes when they came in. So no time would have been wasted. The only change would have been the subsequent announcing of the run-off after the votes had been collated and announced.

Honest, Mr. Out-going President, sir, you wouldn't have been wasting your time either way.

But can we have a clarifying official final presidential ruling as to whether or not I'm the new president?

Looks like my first task will be to look for a volunteer to collect together all of our current regulations in one handy location.



And I'm fairly certain, for what it's worth, that the French run-off vote does apply to World Cup host votes where there's more than two bids and none receive a majority. I just couldn't remember whether it applied to the Presidency or not.

I would like to petition to whomever is the next WCC President, that an effort be made to codify the laws and regulations of the WCC, so that bureaucratic errors as witnessed presently will become less likely in the future and further less susceptible "Is it so?" dilemmas of uncertainty, especially by ranking members of the WCC.

This is one of things about which I'm not particularly happy - what exactly are the rules of the WCC?


EDIT >>>

"""that an effort be made to codify"""

That said, I'm not suggesting that the President waste any more of his/her/its time to codify the rules - make a committee to codify, make a committee to make a committee to codify - just something that puts the laws in some form of organization that's easy to read, easy to access, and furthermore easy to cite (redundant, but it drives a point). It might sound like I want to make this organization more solid, but as one of those people who likes a sense of order, I'd feel that the WCC would be more understandable if the rules were more readily known. At the moment, it sounds sometimes like a random act of volition by the part of the President (i.e. "Hmm, I feel like opening a vote on the best sort of cheese in the world...") - I mean, some of this stuff seems like common sense, but when it comes to procedures, it goes a long way if one knows how the damned things runs as opposed to learning ex post facto that we did it wrong (not to suggest that any of the sort has happened recently). I hope that others agree with me...

Looks like my first task will be to look for a volunteer to collect together all of our current regulations in one handy location.

I would like to petition to whomever is the next WCC President, that an effort be made to codify the laws and regulations of the WCC


Does this mean we have a volunteer?

Does this mean we have a volunteer?

*ugh*

Alright fine. Only because I'm a devout organizationalist.

1st Round Vote Finals

Te Fifty Member Taeshan Soccer Federation Council voted yesterday on who would be the first Taeshani Member of the World Cup Player Hall of Fame. The top two voted players, etc. will move on to the final round. To be held after the first qualifying game.

Votes
Zeke 45 Votes as Player/Coach
Taeshan Soccer Federation 3 Votes
Brian Ying Uing 2 Votes Player Out

...the WCC will vote on which of the candidates should be the President immediately after the nomination process. The candidate with the most votes will be the President and the candidate with the second-most votes will be the Vice-President.That makes it look like the Archregimancy would indeed be the president.

As far as runoff voting and/or requiring a majority goes, they're mandated for host votes (under Proposal DR1) and rules changes when multiple contradictory proposals are on the ballot (Novapsolu proposal). Not, however, for presidential elections. (There's nothing prohibiting them either; from memory, Bazalonia was elected to a second term in a five-or-so-way instant runoff election.) As it stands, however, it looks like the Archregimancy is the president.

Baz seems to think that it's not a problem, but even if it had been....

You would still have had to collate and announce all of the votes when they came in. So no time would have been wasted. The only change would have been the subsequent announcing of the run-off after the votes had been collated and announced.

Honest, Mr. Out-going President, sir, you wouldn't have been wasting your time either way.

Well, that would depend on the type of vote, actually. We'd have been able to expedite the process using IRV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting) or something similar to still require only the single one-week voting period.

But, as you said, it seems to not be a problem after all. :)

But can we have a clarifying official final presidential ruling as to whether or not I'm the new president?

Yes, we can.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

The Archregimancy is confirmed as the winner of the World Cup 43-45 presidential election.

Even if we had a run-off poll between the Zug and Arch, Zug had 4 and Arch had 8. Assuming an even split between the other 6 votes - it'd be Zug 7, Arch 11. So I think the results speak for themselves.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

You lied!!!

Presidential voting crisis in the WCC who would have thought.

Ya'll could just vote for me then... <Wakes up from self-delusional dream>

Ya'll could just vote for me then... <Wakes up from self-delusional dream>

*me whacks Qazox with the anti-self-delusional-dream sledgehammer of justice*

Sorry, I was a little late getting here!


--- on a more serious note, since there will be some form of review of the WCC rules, I think it would be helpful to everyone interested if we knew where to start looking for these damned stones...

I think one major issue is that a lot of the stuff was in the old WCDT, which is no longer accessible.

I think one major issue is that a lot of the stuff was in the old WCDT, which is no longer accessible.

Yeah, WCDT I was like the Matrix ... except it erased itself.
I do remember one NSWC Presidency vote going to a run-off.

--- on a more serious note, since there will be some form of review of the WCC rules, I think it would be helpful to everyone interested if we knew where to start looking for these damned stones...

<puts on brand new Orthodox president-elect crown>

http://www.scoba.us/assets/images/crown_sm.gif

Han,

First of all, I genuinely appreciate the work you're prepared to put in here.

As others have noted, many of our rules and regulations may have been lost in the old WC discussion thread.

Otherwise, I suggest two other areas to go fishing:

1) the NS Wiki, where some WCC rules may be posted (though there's no guarantee they're up to date).

2) the Official Presidential Announcement thread, which hasn't been used since April (WC 40 / CoH 32), but which contains a lot of formal voting announcements for proposals since 24/04/05, and which may be found here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414525

It may not always state what the proposals are, though it does contain the full text of some of the more crucial ones.

If any other nations know of any other potential sources, by all means please post them in this forum.

Otherwise... Han, TG me when you think you have an as up to date as possible listing of rules and regulations, and I'll give you my e-mail address so you can send them to me and we can work out the best way of getting them posted for ease of reference.

Ta,

Your Orthodox President +

Edit:
Now that Zwangzug mentions it, I do remember Baz's second presidential term coming after an Australian-style alternative vote countback. However, now that I think about this, memory suggests this was done on the Oz-based Bazza's own initiative rather than as a formal procedure. Baz's memory may be clearer, so he should feel free to correct us if he remembers differently.

However, now that I think about this, memory suggests this was done on the Oz-based Bazza's own initiative rather than as a formal procedure.That sounds about right to me as well. Legalese/Novapsolu was counting the votes, so maybe it was his idea, but nothing formalized.

Anyway, I've added Proposal 1337 to the wiki-was panicking earlier that it might have added new election policy, but thankfully it didn't.

Edit:
Now that Zwangzug mentions it, I do remember Baz's second presidential term coming after an Australian-style alternative vote countback. However, now that I think about this, memory suggests this was done on the Oz-based Bazza's own initiative rather than as a formal procedure. Baz's memory may be clearer, so he should feel free to correct us if he remembers differently.

Yeah, that's basically right.

There were 5 or so candidates and I saw big potential problems... that and I always wanted to do the Aussie style preferential system.

Actually, I'd like to make a proposal to alter the rules.

Not to require a majority but to formally give power to a sitting Pres to do another round of voting from the candidates available at his discretion. That is if a situation occurs like this where there is a clear winner. That's fine, but if there isn't the new pres gets to choose how to progress from there when the results are known.

Oxen Cup 8 Groups and Schedules are up. That is all.

Actually, I'd like to make a proposal to alter the rules.

Not to require a majority but to formally give power to a sitting Pres to do another round of voting from the candidates available at his discretion. That is if a situation occurs like this where there is a clear winner. That's fine, but if there isn't the new pres gets to choose how to progress from there when the results are known.

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It's possible - probable, even - that the collation of the WCC regulations currently being undertaken may lead to several proposals for minor revisions. We also have my outstanding proposal on providing a mechanism to engage with NS2 to consider.

I'd suggest that formal proposals wait until Han and I have collated our current regulations, at which point I can ask for any formal proposals on revisions and organise a single vote accordingly.

Just a quick clarifying question from this grumpy old fart... Do we have a host for the next CoH yet, and if not, who'll organise the vote? Veph or me?

Your Orthodox President-Elect +

I'd suggest that formal proposals wait until Han and I have collated our current regulations, at which point I can ask for any formal proposals on revisions and organise a single vote accordingly.

Just a quick clarifying question from this grumpy old fart... Do we have a host for the next CoH yet, and if not, who'll organise the vote? Veph or me?

Your Orthodox President-Elect +

Which why the proposal was no where near formal...

and about that no we don't have a CoH host yet, That's usually done approx half-way through the current WC Quals.

As for who to host it... that should be Vephrall as the president takes responsibility for that World Cup and all it's associated events... meaning that the WC44 Signup Thread should be your first presidential duty. Though... as long as the out-going and in-coming pres agree. I don't see anything wrong in mixing things up a bit.

I'm pretty sure Arch's term begins with WC43, not 44.

yeah - the the switchover was meant to happen before World Cup 43 but the only task Arch would have for WC 43 is the CoH host vote so as it stands doesn't really matter.

I'm pretty sure Arch's term begins with WC43, not 44.

Correct. I took charge of the WC43 signup thread because it would've been utterly silly to have waited until now to start it (and indeed if we had waited until now, we might not have hosts, as I'd be running into major schedule conflicts with final exams and the holiday season). The next CoH does indeed fall under Arch's jurisdiction.

Actually, I'd like to make a proposal to alter the rules.

Not to require a majority but to formally give power to a sitting Pres to do another round of voting from the candidates available at his discretion. That is if a situation occurs like this where there is a clear winner. That's fine, but if there isn't the new pres gets to choose how to progress from there when the results are known.

Oh great - make more rules about rules while we're looking for the rules.

*sighs*

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It's possible - probable, even - that the collation of the WCC regulations currently being undertaken may lead to several proposals for minor revisions. We also have my outstanding proposal on providing a mechanism to engage with NS2 to consider.

I'd suggest that formal proposals wait until Han and I have collated our current regulations, at which point I can ask for any formal proposals on revisions and organise a single vote accordingly.

Just a quick clarifying question from this grumpy old fart... Do we have a host for the next CoH yet, and if not, who'll organise the vote? Veph or me?

Your Orthodox President-Elect +

Which why the proposal was no where near formal...

and about that no we don't have a CoH host yet, That's usually done approx half-way through the current WC Quals.

As for who to host it... that should be Vephrall as the president takes responsibility for that World Cup and all it's associated events... meaning that the WC44 Signup Thread should be your first presidential duty. Though... as long as the out-going and in-coming pres agree. I don't see anything wrong in mixing things up a bit.

I'm pretty sure Arch's term begins with WC43, not 44.

yeah - the the switchover was meant to happen before World Cup 43 but the only task Arch would have for WC 43 is the CoH host vote so as it stands doesn't really matter.

Correct. I took charge of the WC43 signup thread because it would've been utterly silly to have waited until now to start it (and indeed if we had waited until now, we might not have hosts, as I'd be running into major schedule conflicts with final exams and the holiday season). The next CoH does indeed fall under Arch's jurisdiction.

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It may be the shell shock from having to do midterms and the GRE during the same week, but all I have to say is

:confused::confused::confused:

WTFM?

and nice idea with the hats, Arch!

A note on scheduling:

The World Cup 43 final will be held Wednesday 26 November (i.e. the very last possible day that I have available for scorination before the new year).

The exact date of the qualifying draw is uncertain, as it depends on the end date of the BoF, but based on what I've heard from Caf, the BoF should end sometime around 24 October (plus-or-minus a day or two). The WC43 qualifying draw is thus tentatively scheduled for 26 October. So it'll be a bit tight, but doable. I really hadn't been expecting quite this much post-WC42 downtime, though.

In reference to whomever created the WCC legislative structure, I'm planning to visit your house and wring your necks with trip wire and then toss your straggled carcass onto the nearest ferris wheel, disconnect the cables, and roll the damned thing across the country so the world can attest that you have SLANIed the very idea of bureaucracy.

*heaves a deep sigh - now that that is done with*

I'm planning on *EDIT*ing the WCC regulations into a more formal much easier to read outline format - something on the lines of a Constitution-style declaration. That way, instead of making Proposals and letting them STAY as proposals, numbered in the most ridiculous organization that only 7-year-old tantrum toddlers would draw on the empty wall space of their house using lipstick. In this, I hope that the revised WCC regulations will be easier to read, easier to understand, and perhaps more importantly, easier to edit (as opposed to the "I think it's a law, so we should fix it" methodology that has pervaded the past few runs).

On that note, I wish to state that I harbor no intentional ill-will towards people who led the development of the WCC; considering that most people wouldn't have expected the need to organize anything of this magnitude formally (and perhaps there are still those few people that think I'm insane, which I clearly am), so I'm anticipating the cluttered feeling I get from reading this is not the result of their ignorance but their efficiency (much easier to slap a number on it and pass a vote than it is to make it a code of laws). If I've insulted anyone with my statements, please send me a TG or an email (daehanjeiguk@gmail.com) and I'll try to address them personally (this is not an invitation to send hate mail - that, you can send to Arch).

I don't expect to be done with the codification of the WCC rules anytime soon, but hopefully before the start of the WC Qualification Tours.

I'm planning on *EDIT*ing the WCC regulations into a more formal much easier to read outline format - something on the lines of a Constitution-style declaration. That way, instead of making Proposals and letting them STAY as proposals, numbered in the most ridiculous organization that only 7-year-old tantrum toddlers would draw on the empty wall space of their house using lipstick. In this, I hope that the revised WCC regulations will be easier to read, easier to understand, and perhaps more importantly, easier to edit (as opposed to the "I think it's a law, so we should fix it" methodology that has pervaded the past few runs).


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10th of October - the Martyrs Saints Eulampius and Eulampia

Assuming you do this, we may find it beneficial to post the original version along with your edited easy to read version, just so one of us pedantic old-timers doesn't come along and accuse you of accidentally changing the rules along with editing them. It's simply a matter of ensuring clarity.

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10th of October - the Martyrs Saints Eulampius and Eulampia

Assuming you do this, we may find it beneficial to post the original version along with your edited easy to read version, just so one of us pedantic old-timers doesn't come along and accuse you of accidentally changing the rules along with editing them. It's simply a matter of ensuring clarity.

No worries - you'll be granted the courtesy of witnessing the horrors that I have witnessed when analyzing this stuff.

The Horror, the Verbiose Horror!

I am of course speaking of the Codex WCC.

The Horror, the Verbiose Horror!

I am of course speaking of the Codex WCC.

lest ye jest, I may make arrangements for thou to arrive in the dungeon of the President to suffer the full lecture of the Codex whilst affixed to the walls by iron instruments of pain.

on that note, does anyone have a pair of leeches?

lest ye jest, I may make arrangements for thou to arrive in the dungeon of the President to suffer the full lecture of the Codex whilst affixed to the walls by iron instruments of pain.

on that note, does anyone have a pair of leeches?

I have already spent time with the NSInquisition: namely World Cups 27-30, World Cup 32, and World Cup 34.

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11th of October - Apostle Philip of the Seventy; Synaxis of the Venerable Fathers of Optina; Venerable Ethelburga of East Anglia

Can I just make it clear that the Inquisition is a heretical schismatic Catholic institution.

Punishment round these parts would constitute locking the offender in a small monastic cell in Siberia / Sinai / Athos, and forcing them to read the Codex themselves.

Oh, and I hope no one objects to my mixing up IC Orthodoxy with OOC discussion for a bit of presidential colour in these posts. If this is a serious issue for anyone, please let me know via TG, and I can limit that Orthodox colour to IC posts and relevant OOC posts.

Punishment round these parts would constitute locking the offender in a small monastic cell in Siberia / Sinai / Athos, and forcing them to read the Codex themselves.

Didn't I just say that?

Didn't I just say that?

Well, I'm sure you can find an appropriate monastery here:

http://www.orthodox.or.kr/

So, breaking the monotony...any ideas when WC43 is going to be creaking its wheels into life?

looks at hosts :D

So, breaking the monotony...any ideas when WC43 is going to be creaking its wheels into life?

looks at hosts :D

Well, that depends on when the BoF finishes. From what I can tell, there are 8 matchdays of the BoF, the first of which should be...soon (tonight? tomorrow?). At a guess, I'd say it'll be finished around the 23rd, give or take a day, and thus the WC qualifying draw will probably be the 25th or 26th.

RP and roster threads, however, will be up sooner. Probably either this Friday or Sunday (likely not Saturday, though).

Someone is forgetting about his cohost :p

So, breaking the monotony...


And now back to your regularly scheduled recitation of Orthodox liturgy.

I should have a comprehensive compilation of the WCC rules by the end of the next week, for those possessing an invested interest in the progress of this.

Just looking at the Cassadaigua's roster for BoF30. An all women's team, not to mention that 65% of the population is female.

Come the qualifiers any teams going over their better watch out, especially if Newmanistan sends some of his B team players over based on their actions during the last OXEN cup :p

I'm more worried about zombies... :):D

Just looking at the Cassadaigua's roster for BoF30. An all women's team, not to mention that 65% of the population is female.

Come the qualifiers any teams going over their better watch out, especially if Newmanistan sends some of his B team players over based on their actions during the last OXEN cup :p

If we get paired with them, at least my players would have some fun before being sent to the CoH :P

Also, there's always a way to get rid of zombies. Firstly, just organise your matches in broad daylight. Or carry RPG's. That would probably do the trick.

Just looking at the Cassadaigua's roster for BoF30. An all women's team, not to mention that 65% of the population is female.

Come the qualifiers any teams going over their better watch out, especially if Newmanistan sends some of his B team players over based on their actions during the last OXEN cup :p

Oh our "B" team wasn't any worse then Jeruselem with their extra curricular activities. ;)

I still have to make my BoF prediction.... After successfully picking ourselves in BoF27, and Arroza in BoF28, yet striking out with Land de Wood in BoF29, I'm gonna take Cassadaigua as my BoF30 pick. Picking Secristan or Myedvedeya would be too easy.

I've re-read some parts the BoF27 thread. I have no clue how i made it second of the group and till the quarter finals... Damn, my RP's were bad. I also came to the conclusion that it was a highly violent Baptism. For some teams, that is. Loads of riots. Good ol' times...

I updated the BoF wiki article (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Baptism_of_Fire). :)

I've re-read some parts the BoF27 thread. I have no clue how i made it second of the group and till the quarter finals... Damn, my RP's were bad. I also came to the conclusion that it was a highly violent Baptism. For some teams, that is. Loads of riots. Good ol' times...

I'm sure we all feel the same. I've wondered how I managed to win BoF29 (sorry for messing that one up, Newmanistan) with what I wrote, considering I thought others had done far better.

Sometimes it's the way the dice (well, the scorinators) fall.

Is someone going to update the WCc and EWCC Members list on Wiki anytime soon

Is someone going to update the WCc and EWCC Members list on Wiki anytime soon


Thank you for volunteering. I look forward to reading your update soon.




And from the sign-up thread.

Wow i agree with your pointing some things out to KJO, but Taeshan and Qazox should already know not to do this. I pointed out the possibility of a flame, and Q pointed out how he was no infact wrong.

Neither of which belonged in the sign-up thread. Please stop posting non sign-ups in the sign-up thread.

Is someone going to update the WCc and EWCC Members list on Wiki anytime soon

According to the wonderful rules that I have been compiling, it is required that the list of WCC and EWCC members always be public, but it doesn't say by whom :P

Thank you for volunteering. I look forward to reading your update soon.

That made my day.

That made my day.

meh, I was expecting it (damn complaint system...)

meh, I was expecting it (damn complaint system...)

*note to self: Never, ever complain about issues you're able to do on this forum*

Oh our "B" team wasn't any worse then Jeruselem with their extra curricular activities. ;)

I still have to make my BoF prediction.... After successfully picking ourselves in BoF27, and Arroza in BoF28, yet striking out with Land de Wood in BoF29, I'm gonna take Cassadaigua as my BoF30 pick. Picking Secristan or Myedvedeya would be too easy.

You leave the whoring to us! We do it properly. Although, I'd like both the Vilardi sisters to be playing for WC43.

That made my day.

Same.

Oh our "B" team wasn't any worse then Jeruselem with their extra curricular activities. ;)

Yes but you come to expect that from Jeruselem teams.

I'm think about sending a whole woman team to the World cup, is that against the rules? :D:tongue:

I'm think about sending a whole woman team to the World cup, is that against the rules? :D:tongue:

Not that I know of.

I'm think about sending a whole woman team to the World cup, is that against the rules? :D:tongue:

I do it a lot with some minor cups.

From the sign-up thread:

if you have something to say about me or my posts, PM me or Telegram me, dont quote my message and write stuff.
and if i ever post in this thread again, ban me.



He climbs a tree and scrapes His knee
His shirt has got a tear
He waltzes on his way to Mass
And whistles on the stair
And underneath his cap
He has curlers in his hair
I even saw him spam the sign-up thread

He's always late for chapel
And his penitence ain't real
He's always late for everything
Except for every meal
I hate to have to say it
But I very firmly feel
He'll be reported if he spams that thread again

I'd like to say a word his behalf
Kjomasasopia makes me laugh

How do you solve a problem like Kjomasasopia?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means Kjomasasopia?
A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay
And listen to all you say
How do you keep a wave upon the sand?

Oh, how do you solve a problem like Kjomasasopia?
How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

That song sounds familiar...

Also, win!

if you have something to say about me or my posts, PM me or Telegram me, dont quote my message and write stuff.
and if i ever post in this thread again, ban me.

Isn't that what a forum is s'pposed to be for? Discussion?

Isn't that what a forum is s'pposed to be for? Discussion?

I particularly liked how he complained about my quoting him in the forum and failure to TG him by quoting me in the forum without TG'ing me (I've checked).

I've given him the benefit of the doubt over his claim that he's not posting in the sign-up thread again, and since wasting any further effort might have led to even more unnecessary spamming of the sign-up thread, I've just left it.

Undoubtedly many of us have noticed that we have several brand new nations whose NS forum etiquette is sometimes a little quirky, and who in some cases are also enthusiastically starting new sporting tournaments with little idea of how to go about it.

The trick here is going to be channelling that enthusiasm constructively and gently improving their etiquette, while avoiding turning them off and chasing them away.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm the best person to do that. I'm self-aware enough to know that I can occasionally come across as just the teensiest bit pompous in OOC posts.

But it's what I'm generally aiming for.

I'm sure we can direct them in the right way. Sometimes people a push in the right direction and i'm fairly positive we can do that.

...

Wait... I'm kind of a newbie myself, ain't I?

Compared to Arch - We're all newbies

There are three types of people in life:

(1) Those born with social skills and are consciously aware of what makes a good personal conduct;

(2) Those who need instruction but learn very well how to conduct themselves;

(3) Those who need instruction but will never learn, just because they choose to do it their own way.

Personally I'd make a greeting like the following:

Just an FYI, please keep all discussion for The World Cup Discussion Thread II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536285), as this thread is strictly used for a sign-up. Also, please refrain from making any comments about sign-ups, since we already have people who are responsible for organizing the World Cup. By adding your remarks here, it might confuse new people from joining and confuse other people who have already joined. For a reference, the two people who should be taking care of the Sign-up Thread are Vephrall and Valanora (ESF), as they are the hosts and have any legitimacy to make any real announcements in this thread.

If you continue to make posts in this thread, we will take these concerns to the moderators, but we'd much rather not. If you must make a comment, again, take them to the Discussion Thread, where it is more appropriately placed.

Not clean, not cheap, but definitely gets the point across in an unambiguous manner. If they can't read that, then... *grabs his pale of pitch* it's time to discipline :P

Isn't that what a forum is s'pposed to be for? Discussion?

If the guy wants a TG, TG him - but by all means, explain to him that the forums are the OFFICIAL place for discussion - because we all know the finicky nature of TGs.

Did someone order a RP Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569447)?

Did someone order a RP Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569447)?

Wait... What? Isn't it a bit early for that?

Also, a roster thread in the make?

If the guy wants a TG, TG him - but by all means, explain to him that the forums are the OFFICIAL place for discussion - because we all know the finicky nature of TGs.

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14105683&postcount=28) post, from the World Cup of Handball, demonstrates why I'm not going to TG him for the time being. I simply don't think it's worth the grief. Yet.

If, however, he starts behaving the same way in the World Cup, I promise that I'll have a quiet word with him by TG first before resorting to the mods.

Wait... What? Isn't it a bit early for that?

The qualifying group draw is probably just over a week away, so we figured we'd let you all get a little head start. :)

Also, a roster thread in the make?

Indeed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569449)

The qualifying group draw is probably just over a week away, so we figured we'd let you all get a little head start. :)



Indeed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569449)

Don't those of us who are in the BoF have to finish up our tourney before the qualifying process starts?

Don't those of us who are in the BoF have to finish up our tourney before the qualifying process starts?

Yep. The qualifying draw will take place a day or two after the BoF final.

Yes you do, and our schedule currently has the Qaulifying draw either the day or 2 days after the BoF final.

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14105683&postcount=28) post, from the World Cup of Handball, demonstrates why I'm not going to TG him for the time being. I simply don't think it's worth the grief. Yet.

If, however, he starts behaving the same way in the World Cup, I promise that I'll have a quiet word with him by TG first before resorting to the mods.

I sense a little bit of aggression in the post of that guy...

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14105683&postcount=28) post, from the World Cup of Handball, demonstrates why I'm not going to TG him for the time being. I simply don't think it's worth the grief. Yet.

If, however, he starts behaving the same way in the World Cup, I promise that I'll have a quiet word with him by TG first before resorting to the mods.

I sense a little bit of aggression in the post of that guy...

*quietly writes some notes on Kjo - somewhere underlined is the statement "needs to understand that life isn't fair"*

Did someone order a RP Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569447)?

GAH! :eek:

The qualifying group draw is probably just over a week away, so we figured we'd let you all get a little head start. :)

Indeed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569449)

GAH! :eek2:

I still have to resolve the OFC before I get my roster!

Pre-Jeruselem
Pre-Myedvedeyan
Mid-Dehanjieguk
Post-C&M
Post-Zwangzug

^^ OOC: qazox, i grate on people coz im a dickhead, everyone should note that.

yeah Miroxia im soory for technically yellin at you, im not actually angry, im just,as stated above, a dickhead.

great advice tho, qazox.

I will defer judgement of what we should think of this to the more experienced among us.

im a dickhead.

There's nothing to think about, Myed. I'm hoping that, over time, he'll learn to mature and become a more agreeable person to RP with, but here he quite clearly states what he thinks of himself.

Think what you want of him, I reckon he still has time to change.

Besides, this was posted in the Handball thread, and has nothing to do with the World Cup.

So we'll leave the discussion of such things in the corner, and get back on track with the WC Proper, eh?

LFF (lookig for friendlies)
That's right, Nethertopia is still in search for nations to play punching bag for! So if you feel the urge to destroy The Scout's team, be so kind to send this lil' nation a TG, m' dear.

Pre-Jeruselem
Pre-Myedvedeyan
Mid-Dehanjieguk
Post-C&M
Post-Zwangzug

Go ahead Taeshan! Not bothered where ... as Dazza says
"Your place or mine?"

Well I changed my mind of sending a all woman team to the World Cup. :$

Well um thats a tuffy. J. War here, free women there. I think you know were this is going.

Now a question for the hosts. Are we supposed to TG you the Friendlies or are you uwsing an account? Friendlies are not mentioned in your rp or Roster thrads.

Now a question for the hosts. Are we supposed to TG you the Friendlies or are you uwsing an account? Friendlies are not mentioned in your rp or Roster thrads.

Whatever the appropriate method, I accept your request for a friendly.

Now a question for the hosts. Are we supposed to TG you the Friendlies or are you uwsing an account? Friendlies are not mentioned in your rp or Roster thrads.

I can't speak for the hosts, but as a former host, I'm pretty sure that the NSWC semi-unofficial email account - nswc.hosts@gmail.com is still open, and I know that the previous hosts made use of the account. Whether Vephrall or Valanora make use of it remains largely up to them (and neither of them are available for questioning).

I think that Taeshan was asking specifically whether they would use that account or not, Han. Considering that he tends to have a lot of friendlies every cup, I'm pretty sure he (and most active members of the community) know that it exists.

When does the draw for World Cup 43 take place?

I can't speak for the hosts, but as a former host, I'm pretty sure that the NSWC semi-unofficial email account - nswc.hosts@gmail.com is still open, and I know that the previous hosts made use of the account. Whether Vephrall or Valanora make use of it remains largely up to them (and neither of them are available for questioning).

We shall not be utulizing the e-mail account. Please direct all pre-qualifying and mid-qualifying friendly requests towards Vephrall's TG box.

When does the draw for World Cup 43 take place?

Either a day or two after the BoF Final.

We shall not be utulizing the e-mail account. Please direct all pre-qualifying and mid-qualifying friendly requests towards Vephrall's TG box.


Thanks for passing that along.
and congrats on the 1500th post, ESF!

Well I changed my mind of sending a all woman team to the World Cup. :$

My people are so disappointed.

This is surely the wrong thread to post it here, but i think the question is relevant.

I've been thinking of setting up a tournament myself, in the form of a sort of Tennis ATP tournament. I've created a very simple spreadsheet in the last couple of hours and i was wondering if someone here would be able to see if i made any mistakes... I've imported to Google Docs and it's to be found in this link (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p4rXa3Ytt-4s7Y1_tAz62GA).

If anyone could help me out. It'd surely help me. Thanks in advance.

Newmanistan would like to request the following pre-qualifying friendlies:

1) @ Dancougar- 3rd Edition of the Golden Ambiguous Bird on Skates Trophy tradition.

2) vs Secristan

3) Home or Away against any team in the top 20 of the KPB ranks.

Newmanistan- I accept the challenge of a friendly.

Now I just need to figure out my roster. Oh well I have time.

Rennidan would like to challenge:

1) Newmanistan - Yeah, I know I'm not a top 20 team, but I'm Top 30, and you know our nations have history. So kick back, grab a bottle of RenniBooze, and let's chill, eh, amigo?

2) Dancougar - I kick your ass in gridirion. How about I kick it in football aswell? Just kidding, love you man.

3) C&M - Again, our nations have history when it comes to this game. Friendly, plz?

Milchama- Excellent! To further make it a challenge for us, we'll travel.

Rennidan- How about Post-Qualifying?

Aye, I'm up for a Post-Qual one then.

Myedvedeya's Challenges:

1)-Jeruselem
2)-Rennidan
3)-Newmanistan

I also accept Taeshan's Challenge.

Please direct all pre-qualifying and mid-qualifying friendly requests towards Vephrall's TG box.

*slaps ESF around a bit with a large trout*
Bah, don't point people at my TG box when I'm out of town and can't check it! :p

Seriously, though, yes, send them there.

The national football team of Candelaria And Marquez, world-renowned (?) for taking friendlies way too seriously (thirteen matches, no defeats), and riding high on the KPB rankings fully one place higher than they were three World Cups ago (woo); will gladly accept the now traditional post-qualifying trip to Taeshan, and (with a certain amount of trepidation) a pre-qualifying visit to Rennidan.

*slaps ESF around a bit with a large trout*


Taking a cue from Monty Python there?

Cafundéu open for friendlies, as usual.

Rennidan looks forward to 'welcoming' C&M! We promise we'll ban the throwing of boots this time round!

And we also happily accept Myedvedeya's challenge. We'll await our fun trip to your desolate frozen land.

Just a quick clarifying note in case anyone reads the WC43 RP thread, somehow takes my latest RP seriously, and thinks my election as WCC president has really gone to my head...

The self-appointed title 'First Hierarch of the World Cup Committee' is only intended as an IC attempt by the rather otherworldly monks to come to grips with the title of 'president'.

I don't seriously expect anyone to use it for OOC business. ;)


Oh, and both the Archregimancy and the Holy Empire are available for 1 or 2 friendlies each.

Arch, friendly?

Newmanistan would like to request the following pre-qualifying friendlies:

1) @ Dancougar- 3rd Edition of the Golden Ambiguous Bird on Skates Trophy tradition.

Yup, send that one in.

Rennidan would like to challenge:

2) Dancougar - I kick your ass in gridirion. How about I kick it in football aswell? Just kidding, love you man.

I, for one, welcome my new brutish overlords.

I mean, yes.

Myedvedeya's Challenges:

1)-Jeruselem
2)-Rennidan
3)-Newmanistan

I also accept Taeshan's Challenge.

The girls will be ready! Err, we don't care where really ...

The girls will be ready! Err, we don't care where really ...

Alright, cool. BTW, I have a RP Story Idea involving one of your characters that I need to run by you later when I'm not absolutely exhausted.

Did Star mention anything about not being on a lot in the future because i havent seen him in a while.

Did Star mention anything about not being on a lot in the future because i havent seen him in a while.

Nope

Most Recent Government Activity: 6 days ago

Myedvedeya's Challenges:
3)-Newmanistan



Accepted... has to be post-qualifying though! We'd like to be home.

We accept the friendly offer with Newmanistan. We are also interested in playing Cafundeu, home or away.

Arch, friendly?

Accepted - I'll leave it to you to officially notify our co-hosts, thanks.

Sure. Should i list it as a pre, mid or post? And would your team travel to Nethertopia or vice versa?

Sure. Should i list it as a pre, mid or post? And would your team travel to Nethertopia or vice versa?

I'd prefer a pre-qualifier friendly. I'd usually offer to travel, but would you perhaps like to come to the Archregimancy as the official footballing opponent for the ceremonial enthronement and blessing of Fr. Polycarp the Venerable as First Hierarch of the World Cup Committee?

I'd love to for that special ceremony. Nethertopia is honored. I'll make sure they'll arrive in suitable suits.

The national football team of Candelaria And Marquez, world-renowned (?) for taking friendlies way too seriously (thirteen matches, no defeats), and riding high on the KPB rankings fully one place higher than they were three World Cups ago (woo); will gladly accept the now traditional post-qualifying trip to Taeshan, and (with a certain amount of trepidation) a pre-qualifying visit to Rennidan.

Now if you've got a friendly before qualifying, and one after, you may want one in the middle (hint, hint)?

Bored teams take on play my Jeru FC with their new coach Ryan Greenly of Qazox.

I accept your friendly request, Secristan. You can choose the place and time and send the message to Veph.

15 more goals and Brian Ying Uing will tie Nick Churchill who for Ziotah scored 59 goals. Im thinkings hes scored the most.

w00t! New forum Avatar (have a guess who it is folks!)

Self Portrait.

Self Portrait.

Unfortunately ... no ...

Asuka Langley Soryu! I'm telling you, this forum is completely cluttered. If you must post, do it in German!

*crickets*

Whaaaaaat?

asuka langley soryu! I'm telling you, this forum is completely cluttered. If you must post, do it in german!

*crickets*

whaaaaaat?

ja :)

Asuka behaves a bit like my equally fictional Marie-Antoinette.

15 more goals and Brian Ying Uing will tie Nick Churchill who for Ziotah scored 59 goals. Im thinkings hes scored the most.

Sorry, Taeshan, but Brian has a looooong way to go before he catches up with Alan Belmore (see The Belmore Family's Hall of Fame entry), who was last recorded at 87 international goals, or the legendary Urk of Giant Zucchini. Urk scored more than 100 international goals and at least 1500 club goals.

Those figures don't include Urk's goals for the Holy Empire in World Cup 25, or goals for dream simulacra of both players playing for the Empire in World Cup 40.

Urk remains something of a cult figure in the Holy Empire (the Archregimancy are a bit sniffier), and rumours persist that the World Cup's most successful sentient courgette lives on in the Dreamed Realm.

Come to think of it, that gives me an idea for a Holy Empire RP theme this cup....

Who is the world's top scorer? Just curious.

Just to note: Jeremy McAllister of Newmanistan has 72 goals (if we're counting all interregional competitions) and is only 31 for the coming cup. ;)

And that bloody bugger didn't want to join the NA-L... He was right not to go there.

Who is the world's top scorer? Just curious.

Without giving too much time to research, I think Kiso Night's 140+ in WC competitions only would make him the top scorer.

Now if you've got a friendly before qualifying, and one after, you may want one in the middle (hint, hint)?

Eh, 'cos it's you, we'll happily add you to our list of victims. VICTIMS! Na-ha-ha-he-ho-ho...


I'm so lonely.

oO

Noes! Our mid friendly!

...

Oh well, guess we'll schedule it for post then, C&M?

Who is the world's top scorer? Just curious.

I'd personally ask the people who have been the longest and have used some of their players for multiple seasons. typically, they'd have some of the most prolific strikers.

I'd imagine that the better question would be "Who is WC42's top scorer?" :P only because you'd have better numbers to support the claims (whereas we've lost much recollection of what happened during the first few WC...)

Well then ineed about a 100 more goals. And hes 4 years younger the n whats his face new. (thats also becauseTaeshani players age at 1 year per a international tournament entered

Eh, 'cos it's you, we'll happily add you to our list of victims. VICTIMS! Na-ha-ha-he-ho-ho...


I'm so lonely.

Muchas gracias! (or something like that...) I'm sure you'll have much fun at our expense.
Now for two questions:

First, who tells whom about this arranged fixture?
Secondly, Arrigo or Moorcroft?

With my 'last remaining active World Cup 1 nation' hat on, I can state with some certainty that we'll never know who the greatest World Cup scorer of all time is for the simple reason that plenty of long-running nations don't keep records.

I know I don't.

Alan Belmore, Urk and Kiso Night would all be somewhere near the top of the list, but the Hall of Fame entries of those first two may not reflect their final goal tallies. Someone like Veph/Bedi and Star, who were active in those years when I temporarily dropped out, may be able to fill us in with other candidates in those prolific 'later early years'.


But I'll tell you this much in advance.....

Every single Holy Empire goal this campaign is going to be scored by the green-skinned Urko Urkes.

Draw your own conclusions.

I could probably name a few from the Liverpool England era...

If clones from various other nations count, Alan Belmore wins.

If clones from various other nations count, Alan Belmore wins.

I think we even had an Alan Belmore once, although he was a midfielder.

Unfortunately ... no ...

Well I have given up.

Who is it?

Well I have given up.

Who is it?

Asuka Langley Soryu (Dancougar got it on first hit).

Asuka Langley Soryu (Dancougar got it on first hit).

Oh I missed that post. Probably because I had no idea who she was.

Kjomasasopia seems to have withdrawn
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14125111&postcount=18

Kjomasasopia seems to have withdrawn
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14125111&postcount=18


I noticed that too. If I'm reading his BoF post correctly, it's to allow his players a year to mature and improve so that they stand a better chance when they enter WC44.

I'm still wrestling with my conscience over whether to tell him that the KPB rankings don't work that way, and that the best way of improving his chances next world cup is to enter WC43.

Oh alright then. I'll do the right thing. I'll TG him.

edit:
Done

More-or-less copied from the signup thread:

We currently have 76 nations signed up (assuming the just-mentioned withdrawal is accurate). This means we still need six more nations before the World Cup qualifying draw, which looks like it will be occurring on Friday. If we do not have six more nations by then, there may be a few changes to the qualifying group structure. Due to RL scheduling constraints, pushing back the start date is not an option.

For the record, that was me using the NSWC Signups account there.

If you want people to fill up the spots, I can throw in a puppet.

Just tell me.

Oh and on the "most ever goals" front: Not only does Alan Belmore probably have more goals then that but the numerous amount of clones by other nations from Oli's Jean-Alain Bellemorte (of course only a Frenchie would make him a goalie) to my Avi Belmowitz (Jew up the name)- Milchama's all time top scorer with somewhere in the hundreds of goals would make Mr. Belmore very clearly the world's top scorer.

Though personally for sentimental reasons I think Zach de la Rocha would be a great all time top scorer.

Same, i could throw in the ninja-monk-monkeys from Dariusville in the big hat of participaters again.

Hmm, I remember one of my first posts to the board was the observation that, "Hey, quals have been played with different-sized groups in the real world, we can do that, too!!" I was shot in the face because that makes things unnecessarily complicated for the hosts, unbalanced for the competitors, and does all sorts of wonky things to the KPB scores.

So instead, here's another of my brilliant suggestions: Enter NSWC Signups!

After getting slapped around for that one, we can try for one more team and do eleven groups of seven, with the top two teams from each group and the eight best third-place teams advancing, or some similar madness.

Hmm, I remember one of my first posts to the board was the observation that, "Hey, quals have been played with different-sized groups in the real world, we can do that, too!!" I was shot in the face because that makes things unnecessarily complicated for the hosts, unbalanced for the competitors, and does all sorts of wonky things to the KPB scores.

So instead, here's another of my brilliant suggestions: Enter NSWC Signups!

After getting slapped around for that one, we can try for one more team and do eleven groups of seven, with the top two teams from each group and the eight best third-place teams advancing, or some similar madness.

I'd prefer getting groups where the number of teams can be divided by 6 rather easily.

78/6 = 13

12 groups --- 6 groups of 6, 6 groups of 7

top 2 progress,
3rd place have play-off for 6 remaining spots.

Although it shouldn't take much effort to get 2 more people and have a nice 10 groups of 8, and I'm fairly certain that the hosts would rather want to avoid the nightmare that would accompany the former scenario...

If you want people to fill up the spots, I can throw in a puppet.

Just tell me.

Oh and on the "most ever goals" front: Not only does Alan Belmore probably have more goals then that but the numerous amount of clones by other nations from Oli's Jean-Alain Bellemorte (of course only a Frenchie would make him a goalie) to my Avi Belmowitz (Jew up the name)- Milchama's all time top scorer with somewhere in the hundreds of goals would make Mr. Belmore very clearly the world's top scorer.

Though personally for sentimental reasons I think Zach de la Rocha would be a great all time top scorer.

Same, i could throw in the ninja-monk-monkeys from Dariusville in the big hat of participaters again.

I'd personally say why not. Solves some problems, and you get to have double the fun (or agony).

Signed up. Huzzah for freaky teams with freaky players.

...

Now where did i leave those monkey cages...

If needs be, I can resurrect Keyne Island for more massive tonkings.

OPEN FRIENDLY REQUEST

Would like a team to play us in Adanac, Krytenia, in Pre-Q friendly.

Favoured opponents are Daehanjeiguk, Starblaydia, or Bazalonia; other offers welcome though.

OPEN FRIENDLY REQUEST

Would like a team to play us in Adanac, Krytenia, in Pre-Q friendly.

Favoured opponents are Daehanjeiguk, Starblaydia, or Bazalonia; other offers welcome though.

We'll oblige, only because of what had happened, not because we caused it or anything like that. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'll TG Vephrall

I'd prefer getting groups where the number of teams can be divided by 6 rather easily.

78/6 = 13

12 groups --- 6 groups of 6, 6 groups of 7

top 2 progress,
3rd place have play-off for 6 remaining spots.

Well, the very best scenario would be for them to be divisible by 10, but failing that, yes, multiples of 6 are good.

As I discussed with ESF earlier, here is what I'm currently thinking:

#teams* a groups of x + b groups of y notes
75 5 8 5 7 top 3 progress
76 6 8 4 7 top 3 progress
77** (alt.1) 7 8 3 7 top 3 progress
77** (alt.2) 11 7 top 2 plus 8 best 3rd-place teams progress
78 6 7 6 6 top 2 progress; 3rd place to playoffs
79** 9 8 1 7 top 3 progress
80*** 10 8 top 3 progress

* not including the 2 hosts
** these numbers will be avoided if at all possible
*** IDEAL SITUATION

I personally have no problem with uneven groups provided that there are a roughly equal number of "large" and "small" groups, which would cut down on the perceived unfairness. Again, my hope is that we will be able to proceed with the original plan (10 groups of 8), but if we don't have enough, we don't have enough. And I'm not going to rescind any accepted signups (say, to bring the field down to 70 or 72).

Depending on what the numbers look like when the BoF ends, I may or may not enter a puppet. Basically, if we're sitting on 77 or 79 (not including hosts) I will, otherwise I won't.

Up for a Friendly at some point Kry if your Pre-Q has already been filled

Dazza's birthday today ... same day as mine! :tongue:

Up for a Friendly at some point Kry if your Pre-Q has already been filled

First one, then t'other. I've TGed Veph for your and Han's requests.

Dazza's birthday today ... same day as mine! :tongue:

happy birthday to both of you then. :p

Im still waiting for the Hans Mid Quialifying nod, (in Han), and Zug has yet to respond on a post qual. Although they don't really need to be confirmed for a while.

Im still waiting for the Hans Mid Quialifying nod, (in Han), and Zug has yet to respond on a post qual. Although they don't really need to be confirmed for a while.

I've already TGed Veph; he should be aware that I've accepted the invitation - apologies for not saying here though.

Sorry, Taeshan, but Brian has a looooong way to go before he catches up with Alan Belmore (see The Belmore Family's Hall of Fame entry), who was last recorded at 87 international goals, or the legendary Urk of Giant Zucchini. Urk scored more than 100 international goals and at least 1500 club goals.

Those figures don't include Urk's goals for the Holy Empire in World Cup 25, or goals for dream simulacra of both players playing for the Empire in World Cup 40.

Urk remains something of a cult figure in the Holy Empire (the Archregimancy are a bit sniffier), and rumours persist that the World Cup's most successful sentient courgette lives on in the Dreamed Realm.

Come to think of it, that gives me an idea for a Holy Empire RP theme this cup....


Now did these guys you mention age four years every cup and play from a "customary" starting age to a customary retiring age? I wasn't around, obviously, in their prime. If so, then they are the rightful record holders. If not, then they should probably be in a category of their own, with a separate category for the "customary" type player.

Well, here's what I'm counting:

Right now, if we include Dariusville's sign-up, we'll have 77.

If Krytenia and Milchama volunteer to send puppets, we'lre up to 79. If someone could persuade Kjo to rescind his decision to quit WC43, we're back at 80 (as if we were there in the first place). This is all optimistic, but within a reasonable time frame, it's also very real.

...

So instead, here's another of my brilliant suggestions: Enter NSWC Signups!
...

I second that motion. Why not?

Right now, if we include Dariusville's sign-up, we'll have 77.

If Krytenia and Milchama volunteer to send puppets, we'lre up to 79. If someone could persuade Kjo to rescind his decision to quit WC43, we're back at 80 (as if we were there in the first place). This is all optimistic, but within a reasonable time frame, it's also very real.

Unfortunately, you're also counting the hosts. Valanora and Vephrall will not be participating in qualifying. ;)

I could send a puppet....

If Krytenia and Milchama volunteer to send puppets, we'lre up to 79. If someone could persuade Kjo to rescind his decision to quit WC43, we're back at 80 (as if we were there in the first place). This is all optimistic, but within a reasonable time frame, it's also very real.

Done.

I TG'd him, and he's now rescinded his withdrawal in the paragraph accompanying his roster in the roster thread.

Jeru, is our Friendly against Jeru FC still on? And post?

Minor scheduling note:

Tomorrow night's qualifying group draw, originally scheduled for 8pm Eastern, has been pushed back to 11pm Eastern (0300 Saturday UTC).

Jeru, is our Friendly against Jeru FC still on? And post?

Go ahead! :)
Read TG from Jeru FC

WTG to Myedvedeya for winning the 30th BoF!

We tried, but I admit the more deserving nation won. Hail to the KGB!

And with the conclusion of the BoF comes a new set of KPB rankings! Newly-crowned champions Myedvedeya check in at number 82 in this edition.

Pick your poison:
ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC43 Rankings.ods)
Excel (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC43 Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC43 Rankings.pdf)
or the ever-popular plain text:
Rank Team Points
1 Valanora 61.73
2 Zwangzug 44.96
3 Capitalizt SLANI 44.59
4 Bostopia 43.82
5 The Archregimancy 40.61
6 Milchama 36.65
7 Starblaydia 36.57
8 Cafundéu 34.80
9 Qazox 33.78
10 Daehanjeiguk 33.72
11 Jeruselem 33.49
12 Tynelia 33.30
13 Bazalonia 32.87
14 Ad’ihan 31.71
15 Wentland 31.69
16 Vephrall 31.65
17 Kura-Pelland 31.03
18 Yafor 2 30.89
19 Demot 30.17
20 The Holy Empire 29.71
21 Candelaria And Marquez 28.59
22 Jasīʼyūn 28.22
23 Dancougar 27.56
24 Bettia 24.00
25 Sorthern Northland 23.78
26 Az-cz 22.09
27 Sel Appa 21.35
28 Septentrionia 21.29
29 Lovisa 20.89
30 Rennidan 20.06
31 Krytenia 19.81
32 Quakmybush 19.53
33 Kelssek 19.05
34 Jeru FC 18.32
35 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 17.94
36 Northern Bettia 16.70
37 Prux 16.40
38 Blouman Empire 16.15
39 Taeshan 16.05
40 Squornshelous 15.81
41 Casari 15.40
42 Newmanistan 13.79
43 Kose and the Turkomans 13.03
44 Kereca 12.96
45 KaMaRi 11.35
46 Magna Sancta Sedes 10.83
47 Acapais 10.75
48 Green wombat 10.71
49 Nire and Nire 10.40
50 Terreiro de Ogum 10.07
51 The Macabees 9.84
52 Kiryu-shi 8.33
53 Universitus University 8.17
54 Land de Wood 7.86
55 Kosovoe 7.55
56 Kenavt 7.22
57 West Zirconia 6.73
58 Arroza 5.78
59 Glaycia 5.70
60 An Blascaod Mor 5.42
61 Jariss 4.37
62 The Pazhujeb Islands 4.36
63 Kanji Starter 4.35
64 Cokenia 4.33
65 New Zomboria 4.26
66 Greal 4.05
67 Cypron 4.02
68 Liventia 3.83
69 Gweridijongya 3.50
70 Dance 2 Revolution 3.44
71 Magnus Valerius 3.40
72 Vonks 3.37
73 Spazican States 3.32
74 Legalese 3.17
75 East Ying 3.00
76 Orion Star Empire 2.98
77 Icy Cold Death Touch 2.89
78 We Hate Football 2.82
79 Ron Paulovia 2.74
80 Lithima 2.60
81 Cauci 2.52
82 Myedvedeya 2.50
83 Nethertopia 2.35
84 Algal states 2.20
84 Kolanderaz 2.20
86 Aleos 2.19
87 Dennisov 2.05
88 Fujisawan Territories 2.02
89 Free Krytenian Rebels 2.00
89 Kansiov 2.00
89 Roddyville 2.00
89 Secristan 2.00
89 The Indonesian States 2.00
89 Urna Eletrônica 2.00
95 Cassadaigua 1.88
95 Thoughts of Randomness 1.88
97 Tokyoni 1.80
98 Wijaska Island 1.73
99 Hryvinia 1.70
100 Linpada 1.67
101 Pablicosta 1.60
101 Scotchpinestan 1.60
101 SFRS 1.60
101 The Islands of Qutar 1.60
101 United Hetzel 1.60
106 Solenial 1.57
107 Abaio 1.50
107 Agroprom 1.50
109 Bearbears 1.40
109 Corivia 1.40
109 Fmjphoenix 1.40
109 Hockey Canada 1.40
109 Naggetski 1.40
109 Nehrland 1.40
109 Zarbli 1.40
116 Europa Brittania 1.33
117 Novapsolu 1.30
118 Dariusville 1.20
118 Eighthgraderistan 1.20
118 Kirrin Island 1.20
118 Ruskastan 1.20
118 SouthSuburbia 1.20
123 Alversia 1.02
124 Bushdome 1.00
124 Frontenax 1.00
124 Ixania 1.00
124 Kjomasasopia 1.00
124 The Daleks 2 1.00
129 Ma Raque 0.98
130 Beer Served Here 0.90
130 Hopeless SC 0.90
130 Krasslor 0.90
130 Lethislavania 0.90
130 Pantocratoria 0.90
135 Docky 0.88
136 Unified Beretania 0.80
137 Tanah Tinggi 0.75
137 Tortuga y Hispaniola 0.75
137 Valetaland 0.75
140 Aqua Teen Hungerland 0.70
140 New Cimeran 0.70
142 Prazkoy 0.68
143 Colbourne 0.63
143 Deceased Writers Guild 0.63
143 Mantwenic 0.63
146 East Antairees 0.60
146 Uiri 0.60
148 Kannone 0.56
149 Maimeiras 0.50
149 Sesquipedalianist 0.50
151 Tomarian 0.41
152 Hopeful SC 0.40
152 Iansisle 0.40
152 NS Illegal Immigrants 0.40
152 Ofedestan 0.40
156 Montgisard 0.33
157 Lindginis Insania 0.32
158 Kalmykstan 0.30
159 Maestro L Pavarotti 0.25
159 Vlaskin 0.25
161 Okuni 0.20
161 Sarejavo 0.20
163 Nuevos Aires 0.18
163 Sineki 0.18
165 Central Prestonia 0.00
165 Chutnusak 0.00
165 Gerainia 0.00
165 United Island Empires 0.00
169 Naboombu Umbongo -5.80
170 Diojiu -6.40
171 Engbec -7.00

That was an awesome job, Myedvedeya! Congrats to the winner of BoF 30!

this post made in a semi-jest. Any chance that Valanora's KPB rating can be cut in half, as at least allow everyone else a chance? 61.73 is the highest I've seen in quite a while. (BTW if it were cut in half, they'd still be ranked 14th!)

this post made in a semi-jest. Any chance that Valanora's KPB rating can be cut in half, as at least allow everyone else a chance? 61.73 is the highest I've seen in quite a while. (BTW if it were cut in half, they'd still be ranked 14th!)

Pity the teams with KPB of near zero against them ...

Ad’ihan 14th...
FIFA — England
ELO — Uruguay

Liventia 68th...
FIFA — Angola
ELO — Belarus

Dang! I lost my place to the new BoF champions... Congrats, Myed

Pity the teams with KPB of near zero against them ...

Well, hell almost everyone outside the top 50 has a KPB of under 10. That's an impossible draw for almost anyone.

I lost a spot. Oh and since Zwang has infromed me he will be absent from this tournament Taeshan would like to offer there last post qualifying Friendly spot(although if anyone is interested there is a second mid open) to qazox

would anyone like to play friendlies with my team? we need more experience of top level games before heading into the wc

Taeshan, thanks but no thanks.

Isn't the WC Draw supposed to be up around this time?

Group 8 is the Group of the Death.... I can tell you that much.

Group 8 is the Group of the Death.... I can tell you that much.

I hope that Qazox isn't in Group 8. :eek:!

Isn't the WC Draw supposed to be up around this time?

Sorry, got occupied IRL shortly after the draw was performed. It will be up in the next few minutes.

Sorry, got occupied IRL shortly after the draw was performed. It will be up in the next few minutes.

I'm not that worried about it, just was curious, as usually the draw is posted here within 20-30 minutes after the live IRC draw.

Group 8 is the Group of the Death.... I can tell you that much.

But think of all the times the Bird in Skates can exchange hands :-D

Also, I can definitely refrain from RL footy pictures in my roleplays, although the temptation to do horrible things in MS paint might be too great.

At the conclusion of the Qualifiers, Az-cz will be my most common opponent with 8 meetings. (i'm not including the Oxen Cup matches w/ Cafundeu, or else they'd be #1 with 11 meetings)

AND I get to visit the Dreamed Realm for the first time since the 21st Cup of Harmony or since 1890, which would be 54 years ICly.

Sincere apologies to everyone for the lack of rosters so far from my two nations. RL has limited my RP time over the last couple of days

I hope to get these up around 18:00 UK time today, hopefully with a couple of accompanying RPs.

Az-cz again!!! what the hell is going on here.

I also have Qazox which will be interesting.

Some how I think with those two and the Holy Empire I will see myself going to another CoH.

Oh great, I have to play one of the Pistachio nut throwing nations ... it's not SN, it's the other one.

Arch, since our two nations got in the same group, is our friendly still on? And Tae, Nethertopia has no post friendly, how 'bout it? Or someone else?

...

Anyone?

Ugh, Bostopia and Bazalonia in our group, again?

Margaret, why hast thou forsaken me?

Oh great, I have to play one of the Pistachio nut throwing nations ... it's not SN, it's the other one.

With our Jeruselemite coach it would have been quite fun if it was us. :D

As for the other teams, had a bit of a hunch that my two nations would be in the same group, and as for my nation of staunch atheists against the uber monks of The Archregimancy, that could be..... interesting.

Arch, since our two nations got in the same group, is our friendly still on? And Tae, Nethertopia has no post friendly, how 'bout it? Or someone else?

...

Anyone?

If you want, I'll play a friendly with you, thus bringing my firendly total to...1. I have no idea who to send the tg to right now, though.

Anyone else want a tune-up game against the Honduras of NS-Soccer?

If you want, I'll play a friendly with you, thus bringing my firendly total to...1. I have no idea who to send the tg to right now, though.

Anyone else want a tune-up game against the Honduras of NS-Soccer?

That's a deal. Would your team like to spend some quality time in Nethertopia or should the Falcons take a plane to your lovely country? I'll send a confirmation to Veph, as soon as i know it.

Scorination of friendlies tonight will probably either be early (around 7:30pm Eastern) or late (possibly midnight or later). I should be able to get on schedule for real starting tomorrow night as qualifying begins.

Arch, since our two nations got in the same group, is our friendly still on?


I have no problem with it going ahead.

In RL Portsmouth and Manchester United could play a friendly in Nigeria shortly before playing each other in the Community Shield, so why not us?