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already packed it.

Congrats! you get 6,000 happy points for the 6,000th post! :eek::hail:

Back to seriousness, Besides myself, Kelssek (who deserves it, WTG!) and Rennidan were the only teams from my group to post rosters, and as for RP's let's see: (Kelssek :9 RP's; Rennidan: 14RP's; others combined: ZERO)

I think Green wombat got shafted a lot, as they RP'ed (albeit not great) every matchday they were involved (14 RP's) , but happened to be in a group with higher ranked Bostopia (9 RP's) and a highly ranked Bazalonia (ZERO RP's) and roughly equivalent ranked Blouman Empire (ONE RP, which occured after they qualified for the playoffs) and they finished not only 4th, but had a losing record.

Congrats! you get 6,000 happy points for the 6,000th post! :eek::hail:

Considering the negative connotations associated with the number 6, we might not be so happy about it.

Incidentally, 6 in Chinese is a good number, so a lot of people like to use the number "666" to mean good fortune (rather, that fortune comes easily).

Considering the negative connotations associated with the number 6, we might not be so happy about it.

Incidentally, 6 in Chinese is a good number, so a lot of people like to use the number "666" to mean good fortune (rather, that fortune comes easily).

Oh dear, now I'm not sure if that series is going to be an external battle of ideology, or an internal one, or both!

MSS gets post 6000 and has 60 posts ... creepy.

I got post 5999 = 6665 if you flip that.

MSS gets post 6000 and has 60 posts ... creepy.

I got post 5999 = 6665 if you flip that.

i posted #6001, and it was my 3900th post which means nothing I guess.

It's 8 that's the lucky number in Chinese, not 6.

Wasn't really the first entry-level team to qualify for the WC. Even ignoring WCs 1, 2, 3, etc., I believe Quak was the first entry-level team to qualify for the World Cup in the modern era (in World Cup 31, if I'm not mistaken).
World Cup 26. Me, Cataduanes and Schiavonia. I know I was helped by being almost the only RPer in the group.

In the Ad’ihan/C&M bid, any team meeting criteria will be invited. Aside from RP criteria, the other one is not making the finals. Not making the finals through the playoffs doesn't change that.

Apologies Adihan I hadn't read your bid, and was going off past CoH criteria

I think Green wombat got shafted a lot, as they RP'ed (albeit not great) every matchday they were involved (14 RP's) , but happened to be in a group with higher ranked Bostopia (9 RP's) and a highly ranked Bazalonia (ZERO RP's) and roughly equivalent ranked Blouman Empire (ONE RP, which occured after they qualified for the playoffs) and they finished not only 4th, but had a losing record.

While this may be a problem it shows the amount of luck or Margret influence that is in the scorinator.

A lesson I learnt in my second world cup campaign where I was doing two RP's between every match day and was still losing to teams that hadn't done an RP at all and were similar ranked to me. Hell I have lost to teams that have been well below me where I have been RPing and they haven't. Besides I have been busy plus I have been slack over the past couple of days.

Yeah... aside from, like, two posts from Milchama, Group 11 was just me. So I ended up writing lots of really boring match reports. Margaret was most displeased with the lack of win in my posts, and thus was I banished into the playoff.

Maybe I should get cracking on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the World Cup?

Yeh I'm sorry about the lack of activity. I just moved to Israel this week to be there for 9 months (woo hoo!) and haven't really had time to do much internetting let alone RPing. I think I'll be more active in the finals though.

Oh also I'm pretty sure a non-RPing noob by the name of County Islands qualified for WC 26. Somebody check that though we don't need any Peter Hobble incidents.

I think Green wombat got shafted a lot, as they RP'ed (albeit not great) every matchday they were involved (14 RP's) , but happened to be in a group with higher ranked Bostopia (9 RP's) and a highly ranked Bazalonia (ZERO RP's) and roughly equivalent ranked Blouman Empire (ONE RP, which occured after they qualified for the playoffs) and they finished not only 4th, but had a losing record.

Wtf mate ^_^ Green wombat weren't in my and Bazzo's group, you mean Prux. You know, your other brother? :p

Wtf mate ^_^ Green wombat weren't in my and Bazzo's group, you mean Prux. You know, your other brother? :p

Well he can't mean Prux, because Prux made the playoffs. Also Blouman Empire weren't in our group.
I doubt he means my nation as though we finished in 4th, we can't complain about Prux' roleplays, and we took advantage of the lack of roleplays from Arozza.
Mind you Bazzo didn't seem to roleplay that much, but I guess as one of the top nations he didn't need to worry too much about qualifying.

Yeh I'm sorry about the lack of activity. I just moved to Israel this week to be there for 9 months (woo hoo!) and haven't really had time to do much internetting let alone RPing. I think I'll be more active in the finals though.

Ah, good call! Hope everything's settling down then.

Wasn't really the first entry-level team to qualify for the WC. Even ignoring WCs 1, 2, 3, etc., I believe Quak was the first entry-level team to qualify for the World Cup in the modern era (in World Cup 31, if I'm not mistaken).

Ignore WC 1? The Holy Empire remains the oldest active nation to have played in the finals at the first attempt.

As cynics points out every time this comes up, this is because there were no qualifiers for WC 1, and the first 32 teams to sign up all made the finals.

But why let something minor like reality get in the way of a proud personal boast by a Dreamed Realm nation?


EDIT: MSS HOLY EMPIRE RP

I have no problems with anything Han/MSS has written in his post regarding entry to the Dreamed Realm.

The precedent of being able to enter the Dreamed Realm without a formal doorway portal, through the use instead of objects/ad hoc portals, is well-established. J.K. Rowling readers might think of the most common alternative routes as vaguely analogous to portkeys and floo powder, whereas the usual portal route is more similar to a C.S. Lewis wardrobe.

However, I'll note that other nations shouldn't use this as an excuse to get in to Dreamed Realm on a whim; entry for RP still relies on IC or OOC permission from me, please.

Did you steal my Zombie powder

Zombie Powder, what?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Zombie_Powder_Vol._01_cover.jpg

If it's really yours, I'll give it back...

It's 8 that's the lucky number in Chinese, not 6.

八 (8) sounds like 发 (prosperity)

六 (6) sounds like 溜 (slipping)

168 = yi liu ba (fortune comes easily - ignoring the decimal indicators)

Wtf mate ^_^ Green wombat weren't in my and Bazzo's group, you mean Prux. You know, your other brother? :p

Well he can't mean Prux, because Prux made the playoffs. Also Blouman Empire weren't in our group.
I doubt he means my nation as though we finished in 4th, we can't complain about Prux' roleplays, and we took advantage of the lack of roleplays from Arozza.
Mind you Bazzo didn't seem to roleplay that much, but I guess as one of the top nations he didn't need to worry too much about qualifying.

Prux was in Bos and Baz's group (it's like they own it o_O). Green Wombat was in Valanora and Demot's Group, and we all know how that turned out.

EDIT: MSS HOLY EMPIRE RP

I have no problems with anything Han/MSS has written in his post regarding entry to the Dreamed Realm.

I'm glad that you don't not like it. :D I'd just have to ask if you were writing something along the lines of entering the Dreamed Realm without a portal, would you have chosen a similar path?


EDIT: and anyone watching the RP thread, I guess it's now time for SPAM wars.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

All right, folks, voting is over - let's see the results:

Ad'ihan and Candelaria And Marquez and...oh, nobody else, sorry, just got into the habit of saying 'and'...received 5 votes.

The UCS FAs and the entity affectionately referred to as "W" (double-U) in the WC42 RP thread received 2 votes.

So A&C&M will host the Cup of Harmony. Congratulations!

Further reminders:

Baptism of Fire hosting bids are due Wednesday 10 September (voting 10-17 Sep).

World Cup 43 hosting bids are due Wednesday 24 September (voting 24 Sep-1 Oct).

Also, let us not forget that there is to be a presidential election following WC42. We'll start taking nominations now and will continue to do so through the remainder of WC42. Voting will begin three days after the end of the Cup and will last the standard one week.

Just to get it out of the way now, I will not be running for re-election.

Also, expect the WC43 signup thread to show up in your neighborhood very soon.

Wtf mate ^_^ Green wombat weren't in my and Bazzo's group, you mean Prux. You know, your other brother? :p

I meant ESf/Valanora and Demot (see what happens when you don't pay attention.. :p) and they had respectively: 6 and 4 RP's)

My main point is, that GW's RPing was effectively meaningless, as the top 2 in his group were ranked 1 and 16, and even though he out-RP'd the 4th seeded team 14-0, he still couldn't get through.

Well ki believe i almost did every matchday. well everyone cept the mid quals i was awa, and Kose started to taper of in the end, Yaf was the only other team to post roster although K&T did do in posts rosters and went didn't post a roster but rped a lot almost every game and i didnt qwualify. Theres to much ties jeese.

Well ki believe i almost did every matchday. well everyone cept the mid quals i was awa, and Kose started to taper of in the end, Yaf was the only other team to post roster although K&T did do in posts rosters and went didn't post a roster but rped a lot almost every game and i didnt qwualify. Theres to much ties jeese.

Kose and Wentland posted rosters.

I meant ESf/Valanora and Demot (see what happens when you don't pay attention.. :p) and they had respectively: 6 and 4 RP's)

My main point is, that GW's RPing was effectively meaningless, as the top 2 in his group were ranked 1 and 16, and even though he out-RP'd the 4th seeded team 14-0, he still couldn't get through.


Your point being?

I have a dream that one day little black boys and little white girls will able to read this thread together knowing that they'll never again have to see someone explain that RP'ing doesn't guarantee your chances of qualifying.

Really, we've been having this discussion for how many years now?

probably just that as history has shown for the most part that if the top seeds RP some then they will more than likely beat out the lower seed that RPs lots. Even moreso than one just cruising by on rank alone (for whatever reason RL or otherwise).

maybe something like "RP does not equal wins", be stickied to the group draw post of every future WC RP thread to preemptively strike any such comments about RPing.

i know Tynelia took forever to qualify RPing almost every match day for 7 cups, only getting through for the first time in the cup i RPed least in. and when i've run experiments about posting vs. not posting in the past i've always ended up with a better record overall on the days i didn;t RP than when i did. but that's because Margaret hates being second fiddle to the Lord of Scores and curses my teams as best she can.

I think RPing helps overall... the highest I got I think was 48 (?) around WC 30-something before I fell off the face of the earth for awhile and had to restart rank. I only got that high because I RPed almost every game... it does not equal wins, but it helps... sometimes.

EDIT: Post 666!

*glances around auspiciously*

I meant ESf/Valanora and Demot (see what happens when you don't pay attention.. :p) and they had respectively: 6 and 4 RP's)

My main point is, that GW's RPing was effectively meaningless, as the top 2 in his group were ranked 1 and 16, and even though he out-RP'd the 4th seeded team 14-0, he still couldn't get through.

But RPing did help MSS push into 3rd in Group 1 when Sel Appa once again crashed leaving me and the Monks to take the top 2 and MSS took 3rd.

Have people addressed the issue of a World Cup in NS2?

Errinundera now exists in both formats.

I suspect, if the World Cup Committee doesn't start one up soon, someone else will.

The NS2 forum is open to anyone so the WCC can go straight in and get one going.

We discussed this a while back, see for instance Vephrall's post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13918889&postcount=5659). I was worried at the thought of two simultaneous but unlinked Cups, and the existence of a Colosseum subforum for peaceful international competitions in NS2 would surely promote that. Perhaps someone could post a note there letting NS2 nations know that they would be welcome in this tournament? I'd be glad to do it (I'm in the beta now), but somebody else could if they'd like, you don't need to be in NS2.

Have people addressed the issue of a World Cup in NS2?

Errinundera now exists in both formats.

I suspect, if the World Cup Committee doesn't start one up soon, someone else will.

The NS2 forum is open to anyone so the WCC can go straight in and get one going.

I think our betters decided that they would continue to run only one competition regardless as some people would only be using one, but you could only use one nation of the same name I think it was also just easier to run one comp rather than two or something.

If I am incorrect I am sure I will be corrected.

Like it not, one will start.

Football fans will, in time, join NS2, bypassing NS. (I imagine, at some point, NS2 will exceed NS in popularity.) In NS the WCC has a sort of moral authority, if you will, because it was there from the early days (long before Jolt). I think that authority needs to be established in NS2.

Change is coming.

Like it not, one will start.

Football fans will, in time, join NS2, bypassing NS. (I imagine, at some point, NS2 will exceed NS in popularity.) In NS the WCC has a sort of moral authority, if you will, because it was there from the early days (long before Jolt). I think that authority needs to be established in NS2.

Change is coming.

Good point, maybe we should establish a thread telling people about ours, so they can join up.

---incoming transmission from Middle-of-Nowhere, Florida---

Argh, damn you Zwang for opening this can of worms. :p Though it's a can that certainly did need to be opened.

This has the potential to get very messy, that much is true. Personally I'd like to maintain just one competition, and since apparently both the NS1 and NS2 forums are being hosted here (for the time being at least) that shouldn't be that difficult.

So, a brief outline of what I think:

Maintain one competition, open to both NS1 and NS2 nations
There doesn't even really need to be a concept of "transferring" a nation's KPB points from NS1 to NS2 or vice versa. This is because...
In order to determine if a nation still exists for our purposes, it should exist on either NS1 or NS2 (or both, though this isn't required). Yes, that makes CTE checking a royal pain in the patoot, but there's really not a better option.
For the sake of the sanity of everyone involved, it should not be allowed for Nation X in NS1 to enter as a puppet of Nation X in NS2 or vice versa. (That is, Sorthern Northland in NS1 and Sorthern Northland in NS2 can't sign up as two separate entities. A "normal" puppet situation spanning both games, such as NS1 Sorthern Northland and NS2 An Blascaod Mor, would still be acceptable.)


Clear as mud? Hopefully so.

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If there's to be one competition it should be in NS2, IMO. That's where the future lies.

I disagree. You should not alienate all the long-timers here who will not be moving to NS2.

I agree with Livcentia.(holy F*** never thought that would happen) anywasys there should be two totally different competitions. Well almost they shall be linked in my opinion, NS2 should sart there own, and Ns1 should have there own, and be somewhat li9nked in a way. Users will still use NS, and would prefer if there was still a thing here until nobody would want to sign up. So NS World cup should run until its run into the ground.

I disagree. You should not alienate all the long-timers here who will not be moving to NS2.

Not necessarily. The NS2 "Colosseum" forum is open to everyone. It's only a matter of changing thread locations. As I said, I think, in time, NS2 will be more popular than NS.

Perhaps the WCC could ask the technocrats to work it so the thread appears in both forums.

I agree with Livcentia.(holy F*** never thought that would happen) anywasys there should be two totally different competitions. Well almost they shall be linked in my opinion, NS2 should sart there own, and Ns1 should have there own, and be somewhat li9nked in a way. Users will still use NS, and would prefer if there was still a thing here until nobody would want to sign up. So NS World cup should run until its run into the ground.

By all means, but the WCC should run the NS2 World Cup. My original point is that they should start it now so they can establish their authority.

Once again....


Quote:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13918889&postcount=5659That's roughly what I said about 15 or 16 posts ago. SEE? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13914296&postcount=5643

yes they should start it sometime soon so they can ran it, and not some knew no it all that will ruin it.

If there's to be one competition it should be in NS2, IMO. That's where the future lies.

An idea, maybe? World Cup 50 should be when the WCC "completely moves" to NS2. That way we can establish it on the NS2 Forums, OUR WAY, and slowly move everything over every World Cup.

ah, so the NS/NS2 debate has soared again with new wings under the same problem.

As stated before, there theoretically should be only one competition. As far as I am aware, NS users can definitely search through the NS2 forums, and I hope that NS2 users can do the same. Is it really that much harder for the NS2 folk (new and returning members alike) to return to the NS forums to spend however much time they will spend on the WC? I'd imagine not. The same justification could be used for NS users to use the NS2 forums, but as the NSWC already exists in NS, why move it at all?

And if what Errinundera says is true, I'm not necessarily convinced that the future of NSWC is in NS2. After all, NS2 was built to be more of an "in-game" type of simulation, not a FFA written-based storyline. Whether it serves that purpose or not remains to be seen largely.

I'm mostly concerned for the new people who come to NS2 and decide that they're "fed up" with the old establishment and decide to start a completely new establishment (after which, the fictional entity that is the WCC will wish that they had copyright issues that would prevent it from happening). I mean, the only thing that has stopped people from doing that in NS is the sheer volume of people who are part of the old establishment. But in NS2? Nearly everyone is new (well, aside from the other "everyone" who has moved to NS2). If a rift forms, it's not because they have to move to NS/NS2 forums - but rather that they have to stick the rules of an old establishment.

And if we were to start a second World Cup, how would we do rankings? Basically two sets of ranks. Two sets of World Cup Hosts. Two sets of virtually everything, except the WCC. It would be too much to ask of any WCC.



If there is destined to be another NS2WC, then let it be. But until then, we should have one WC - one WCC. I certainly will still be here, and I'm confident that a number of the older guard will remain too.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Lovisa ACTUALLY posted an RP!

SEE:
http://www.biezanow.net/~dominik/TVLovun/tvlovunsport-football.gif
we are in final

After long long period Lovisa advance to final World Cup. Its a big success, that we palying in final, and we do not lost in qualification, like was last couple times after when Lovisa come back to WC. Last time Lovisa playing in finals in WC27 which Fmjphoenix and Bedistan was hosted. Last match was gropumatch with The Archregimancy which Lovisa won 2-1, but not advance to second round, becuse was 3rd in group.

This time we back to worlds top finals, and we will be playing better and better.

I personally agree with most of what Daehanjeiguk said: NS1 seems more appropriate for free-form writing/RP than NS2 will be. NS2 may well surpass NS1 in popularity overall. Among the community of people that would want to be part of something like the WC? That's less certain.

I think Liventia makes a good point in that some NS1 users/WC players won't want to be part of NS2. The WC is, in my opinion, probably better off over here. Qazox's idea of setting a timetable to transfer over seems a bad idea to me: unnecessary bureaucracy. Having the WCC as we know it establish a World Cup in NS2 also seems unnecessary as per Daehanjeiguk-two sets of everything isn't really the point.

Do we wait for a NS2 WC to arise on its own, and let it be a completely separate entity? Possibly. Invite NS2 members over here? I'm not sure it could hurt.

*snippets*

Han feels awesomely distinguished that someone else thinks as intelligently of his opinions - ruins the feeling by looking up some comic strips about football...

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/umedia/20080905/cp.4bd75caa38385dc23b6dfb3548015deb

With apologies to Pete Townshend,

Change it had to come. We knew it all along.
They liberated football from the World Cup Committee throng.

There's no point to this post. I just like the song.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

Ad'ihan and Candelaria And Marquez and...oh, nobody else, sorry, just got into the habit of saying 'and'...received 5 votes.

Congrats A&C&M. I've been keeping track of WC42, but didn't have any time to RP at all. Doubtful it would have helped much - we had a fantastic run without any! In the mix until the last day of qualifying.

I personally agree with most of what Daehanjeiguk said: NS1 seems more appropriate for free-form writing/RP than NS2 will be. NS2 may well surpass NS1 in popularity overall. Among the community of people that would want to be part of something like the WC? That's less certain.

I think Liventia makes a good point in that some NS1 users/WC players won't want to be part of NS2. The WC is, in my opinion, probably better off over here. Qazox's idea of setting a timetable to transfer over seems a bad idea to me: unnecessary bureaucracy. Having the WCC as we know it establish a World Cup in NS2 also seems unnecessary as per Daehanjeiguk-two sets of everything isn't really the point.

Do we wait for a NS2 WC to arise on its own, and let it be a completely separate entity? Possibly. Invite NS2 members over here? I'm not sure it could hurt.

I concur, and as I said I think we should have a thread going to notify people that the WC is open so every time signups start we let the know with a bump every now and then.

With apologies to Pete Townshend,

Change it had to come. We knew it all along.
They liberated football from the World Cup Committee throng.



There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new forum's postings
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick my world cup squad and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Oh well, just waiting for my beta key for NS2!
I say keep one cup, since I think NS2 will more in-game and not likely to cater for stuff like the NSWC since sports doesn't really feature in political/economic games.

Um C&M and Adui do you guys have a timeline for the Coh yet. like when its gonna start cause i need to get ready fro another cup of losiation

When you spell the name of my nation correctly, I'll answer that question. "Adui"?

Sorry i didnt realize that, and i had to get off quikly Ad'ihan

We intend to conduct the group draw the same day the World Cup finals start.

For all the discussion, no one's made a solid suggestion as to how to cope with the NS / NS2 separate forum issue. So here's a first draft proposal to try and deal with this constructively:


A FORMAL WCC PROPOSAL

1) Whenever sign-ups for the World Cup are posted in the original NS forums, the WCC president shall also make a post in the appropriate NS2 forum inviting nations to sign-up in NS1.

2) The World Cup will move to NS2 if, in a vote called by the WCC President between a World Cup final and the next Baptism of Fire, two thirds of nations in a vote where more than 50% of WCC members take part vote to so move the World Cup.

3) If the World Cup moves, then whenever sign-ups for the World Cup are posted in the NS2 forums, the WCC president shall also make a post in the original NS forum inviting nations to sign-up in NS2.


Incidentally, does an internet forum take the plural 'forums', reserving 'fora' for Roman urban civic centres? Can't say I'm sure about that...

NS2 and NS1 are completely separate games. The World Cup, and all such sporting events, should be completely separate.

And yes, it's 'fora'.

NS2 and NS1 are completely separate games. The World Cup, and all such sporting events, should be completely separate.

And yes, it's 'fora'.

I think NS1 had an inadequate in-game system so NS2 was created to address it ... sports will never feature really as it's a political tool and isn't really part of a nation building proper, just a way to keep the masses entertained.

So then we should keep them different but have the same running government. And by then im hoping to create a new puppet so i need NS1 to keep its tourney going for good old Kosovoe. And if we start a new thing for the NS2 then we can have totally new rankings and base the first few on ostly rps before using ranks. It would be so cool.(and noobs might have a chance, and i might compete)

Bonus points to anyone who can cite the Divine Comedy quote in the MSS RP.

And the winner of the general contest is - with 3 out of 3 quotes correctly cited - the Archregimancy. The prize will be revealed at the end of the World Cup.

Jeru FC qualified :)

Took about 8 cups! But then Jeruselem took 8 cups too. :p
Kinda feel sorry for Blouman who could have made it if the opponent wasn't actively Rping ...

OMG Zombies in the World Cup? What the hell is the world coming too?

Hello Hosting Bid (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565454)

OMG Zombies in the World Cup? What the hell is the world coming too?

Ummm, it was either the zombies or the Saints. And I think we all know what you would have wanted...

Ummm, it was either the zombies or the Saints. And I think we all know what you would have wanted...

The Patriots. :D (who will suck thanks to a partially cheap shot to Brady's knee) Besides, yes I'm glad that one of my brothers gets to be cannon fodder in the WC once again. (better them than me)

BTW for those that use the default Jolt settings, this is the ERROR PAGE! :eek:

And a belated WTG to:
Rennidan and Jeru FC for also becoming cannon fodder, i mean, qualifying for the World Cup for the first time.

Now, I have to wait for the next World Cup, and be the first to congratulate the final winner. :D

C&M and I will be sending out CoH invites over the next day or so, so check your telegram boxes often if you RPed but didn't make it.

And a belated WTG to:
Rennidan and Jeru FC for also becoming cannon fodder, i mean, qualifying for the World Cup for the first time.

After being close so many times (in the last 3 cups), Jeru FC had to make some day.

Still no BoF27 teams have ever qualified (Septentrionia's automatic qualification excluded). Or 28. Let alone 29.
But congrats to the unofficial member of the BoF 27 class, Rennidan! (Double happy to see them knock out Az-Cz in the process)

Rennidan's team was undoubtedly inspired by the performance of their Brutes, who won the World Bowl II championship recently.

Still no BoF27 teams have ever qualified (Septentrionia's automatic qualification excluded). Or 28. Let alone 29.
But congrats to the unofficial member of the BoF 27 class, Rennidan! (Double happy to see them knock out Az-Cz in the process)

Rennidan's team was undoubtedly inspired by the performance of their Brutes, who won the World Bowl II championship recently.

MSS, R/U of the BoF did very well except they got eaten by Zombies in the play-off ...
West Zirconia, BoF winner performed as any new team would.

Jeru FC qualified :)

Took about 8 cups! But then Jeruselem took 8 cups too. :p
Kinda feel sorry for Blouman who could have made it if the opponent wasn't actively Rping ...

Well done to JERU FC they have been waiting for a long time. I see myself getting closer and closer every qualification round. It would be interesting if JERU FC and Jerusalem ended up in the same group. I hope the Princesses enjoyed their short stay :wink:

Well done to JERU FC they have been waiting for a long time. I see myself getting closer and closer every qualification round. It would be interesting if JERU FC and Jerusalem ended up in the same group. I hope the Princesses enjoyed their short stay :wink:

Last play-off for qualification in WC39 or WC40 I think, Jeru FC got smashed by the Han. I think you'll do well next cup.

... It would be interesting if JERU FC and Jerusalem ended up in the same group. ...

You know you just ASSURED that Margaret will place both of them in the same group now, right? <So blame Blouman, Jeru, either of ya!:p>

Knowing me... i'd get stuck with 3 lower teams that have Rp'd as much as I have (Dancougar, Prux and Daehanjeiguk... I should get 50 KPB points if that happens LOL J/K) <hurries off to sacrifice a rubber turkey to Margaret to prevent that from happening>

You know you just ASSURED that Margaret will place both of them in the same group now, right? <So blame Blouman, Jeru, either of ya!:p>

Knowing me... i'd get stuck with 3 lower teams that have Rp'd as much as I have (Dancougar, Prux and Daehanjeiguk... I should get 50 KPB points if that happens LOL J/K) <hurries off to sacrifice a rubber turkey to Margaret to prevent that from happening>

Wonder if we end up with group of puppets ... :tongue:

Just a question has any bids for the next BoF been made?
If not is there anyone with previous hosting experiencing and interested in hosting the next BoF be willing to take me under their wing and co-host it with me?

Last play-off for qualification in WC39 or WC40 I think, Jeru FC got smashed by the Han. I think you'll do well next cup.

Yeah thanks, with a bit of experience in the WC now, I once used to think I would get in straight away, lately I have realised that it takes a while to be able to mix with the best. All the best to both your teams.

You know you just ASSURED that Margaret will place both of them in the same group now, right? <So blame Blouman, Jeru, either of ya!:p>

:D I aim to please.

:D I aim to please.

That sounds like Dallas pick-up line! :)

Aw crap. D:

I want to go to the Cup of Harmony, damnit!

So then we should keep them different but have the same running government. And by then im hoping to create a new puppet so i need NS1 to keep its tourney going for good old Kosovoe. And if we start a new thing for the NS2 then we can have totally new rankings and base the first few on ostly rps before using ranks. It would be so cool.(and noobs might have a chance, and i might compete)
Why have the same running government? What happens if someone from NS2 and not NS1 wants to be president? Or vice versa? These are separate games!

No, you need to have posted a roster in the last two World Cups to be on the WCC and thereby have the appropriate WC Host-voting rights.

So as not to clog up the World Cup bid thread, I moved the quote over here, just to clarify.

Is that both World Cups? And is that the World Cup proper or does it include qualifiers?

So as not to clog up the World Cup bid thread, I moved the quote over here, just to clarify.

Is that both World Cups? And is that the World Cup proper or does it include qualifiers?

To vote for WC43 hosts you need to have posted rosters during WC42 and WC41 - qualifiers or finals, as long as you've posted during you team's campaign then you're in.

Why have the same running government? What happens if someone from NS2 and not NS1 wants to be president? Or vice versa? These are separate games!We have an election and award the presidency to the highest vote-getter?

But should posting rosters in two NS2WCs make one eligible to vote for NS1WC hosts? Or vice versa?

One of the biggest problems with having two WCs is this. There are some people who will either play one or the other, and not both. That's fine. There are some people, and I will try to say this as politely as possible, that are fortunate enough to have enough time and energy to be able to RP in a second WC with as much skill and effort as they do in the first, and more power to them.

But I'm guessing there are some people not so fortunate, and if they wanted to participate in both WCs, they'd have to "fight on two fronts" and not be able to RP in either with their full quality. I don't think that's a good thing.

I'll support the Archregimancy's proposal, then. While I would vote no on a potential move as specified in clause 2, it still probably deserves the right to come to vote.

While conceding the point that most of us would consider NS1 and NS2 to be very different environments, my concern is with how we draw in new people if the WC is only and solely hosted in NS1.

Where are the new nations going to come from if we're hosted solely on NS1? Participation rates in the WC have been very slowly declining for about 18 months now.

How many newbies are going to choose NS1 if presented with a choice between creating a nation on the 'old' nationstates with fewer features or the 'new' nationstates with more and shinier features?

If we cut ourselves off from the supply of new nations, how does the WC continue? We need to be pro-active about promoting ourselves.

And what happens if NS1 is eventually turned off / killed by Max Barry so as to support NS2 only and save himself time/bandwidth?


Stating "they're entirely separate games" or "some old-timers don't want to move to NS2" is fine, but neither solves nor addresses any of the above issues. And they need to be addressed.


Like LE, I have no current plans to move to NS2. Like Zwangzug, I would currently vote no if offered a choice over moving the World Cup.

But I still think we need to be prepared. Otherwise we invite comparisons to Nero's violin playing; or maybe ostriches.


My proposal doesn't move the WC to NS2. It merely promotes the WC on NS2. It also provides a mechanism for moving the WC, but only when a super-majority of a majority of WCC members agrees. This guarantees that if the move ever happens, it will have been supported by a strong majority of active World Cup participants; we may well decide that we never have to move, in which case fine. But my proposal also ensures that the WC will continue to be promoted in NS1 even if the decision is eventually made to move.


None of this is threatening or revolutionary. It merely prepares us for possible change in the future, and helps to protect the continuity of our 'brand' if changes do become necessary. That's simply planning ahead. If anyone disagrees with me, they are of course free to vote against my proposal or to make a proposal of their own.


Oh, and welcome back, Spaam. As the sole holder of any WC2 results, I don't suppose you'd consider posting what results you do have in this thread?

Gah. I'll look for them, but I'd have no idea where to find them. Anyway...


Why promote this WC at NS2? Let's put this plainly. I plan on RPing again when NS2 comes into it's own, and while I'll keep my NS1 nation, it will have nothing to do with NS2. And I plan on there being an NS2-only WC. Very well that participation rates have been dropping, but we wouldn't go promoting this in WoW. Short of some cross-forum advertising, perhaps in a thread like this one in NS2, we have to let things run their course. Maybe it's a good thing that this WC is becoming smaller, but whether or not, it is the natural order of things.

Why promote this WC at NS2? Let's put this plainly. I plan on RPing again when NS2 comes into it's own, and while I'll keep my NS1 nation, it will have nothing to do with NS2. And I plan on there being an NS2-only WC. Very well that participation rates have been dropping, but we wouldn't go promoting this in WoW.

With respect, that's a false analogy.

NS2 is being promoted as the improved sequel to NS. World of Warcraft isn't.

No doubt NS2 will be very different in aspects to NS1, but it will have a lot of crossover appeal between players, and may one day entirely replace NS1. I can see a day where NS1 is discontinued. For those reasons, I think we should discuss how the WC interacts with NS2.

You're free to disagree with that, you're free to ignore the NS WC if it does one day transfer over, and you're free to start your own tournament.

But it won't be the long-running NationStates World Cup, as founded by Ariddia, and we're equally free to disagree with you and look at ways of interacting between both versions.

I really think there is an easy way to resolve the conflict and it's this:

Find the thing that is most similar to NS2, that we know about, and check if they have a sporting culture. The thing most similar would be cybernations (CN) and I have no idea whether a WC or similar is there. If it doesn't exist then we keep on with NS because we might not find enough interest, if any. If it does then I say promote, maybe have 2 WCs for awhile but eventually everything should be put into 1 World Cup because it's a lot easier.

Also does anybody know how this question is being addressed in other fora? (II, General, etc.)

Invitations for the Cup of Harmony have/are being sent. Please check your telegram boxes if you believe you meet the criteria and, if invited, indicate your acceptance in the RP thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565484).

Gah. I'll look for them, but I'd have no idea where to find them. Anyway...


Why promote this WC at NS2? Let's put this plainly. I plan on RPing again when NS2 comes into it's own, and while I'll keep my NS1 nation, it will have nothing to do with NS2. And I plan on there being an NS2-only WC. Very well that participation rates have been dropping, but we wouldn't go promoting this in WoW. Short of some cross-forum advertising, perhaps in a thread like this one in NS2, we have to let things run their course. Maybe it's a good thing that this WC is becoming smaller, but whether or not, it is the natural order of things.

The more that I hear of this, I am left more convinced to keep things as they are.


If the WC does arrive at NS2, it shouldn't have any connection to NS(1) at all, because as people have been mentioning, it is a different game altogether. I have no doubts that people from NS2 will be interested in joining a form of NSWC. And while I have no qualms over inviting them to participate in the NSWC, the interest in forming a WCC-sanctioned NS2WC is not going to work out in the long run, because we're going to have different groups of people. Some of us are doing both NS and NS2 (me, et al.); should I participate in both NSWC and NS2WC? Probably. How would that affect my ranks? It shouldn't. If I host the NS2WC, how would that affect the EWCC structure? It shouldn't. I mean, it's probably simple to say just let it be, but taking the same extension, if it means much to the people of NS2, then let them make an NS2WCC - there's nothing stopping them from doing it. In fact, whoever is on NS2 now can probably set things up using the NS(1) WCC template; there's nothing stopping you.

But involving any of the WCC from NS(1) would be a foolhardy expedition into hegemonic hierarchy that (hopefully) won't last long, because it doesn't draw upon the populations that would affect it most (that is, NS2). So for those who stress the formation of an NS2WC, "Build it and they will come" - to say the least.

In light of the previous comments, I'd like to state my position in favour of The Archregimancy's proposal, and even though I can't remember my own proposed-proposal 100%, I'm pretty sure there were some overlapping areas.

Assume the voting will be done at the same time as WC host/WCC Pres etc?

A bit late, but anyway:

Bid for the BoF link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565391)

By the way isnt it time for a WCP vote soon. Also i dont really care who does what, a lot of people will be doing both, and most of those people will be the ones that do the stuff the most so at one point theyll both be ran by the same person. I think we should start off a new world cup on there with the same guidelines as ours from here, and just start it anew while still running are own. That way all tge new people, and the old ones, and the p[eople who just go on NS wilol be able to play.

By the way isnt it time for a WCP vote soon.

Yes, it is.

That is, in part, why I typed up post #6017 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13986758&postcount=6017).

Yes, every now and then I actually do write posts in this thread that are worth reading.

Yes, every now and then I actually do write posts in this thread that are worth reading.

*reads random posts - "WHOA! That was so insightful! Who wrote that? VEPHRALL?" :eek2:*

Taeshan announces are official nomination of Daehanjeiguk for the office of world cup president. I can do that right.

Taeshan announces are official nomination of Daehanjeiguk for the office of world cup president. I can do that right.

Yes, you can.

For the record, any current World Cup Committee member may make a nomination. A WCC member is defined as anyone who has either
* posted rosters for each of the last two Cups (that is, 42 and 41)*
or
* previously or currently hosted a World Cup

Also, puppets do not count. One person, one vote.

* Such a roster must be posted before the end of your team's participation in order for it to count.

Post-qualifying ranks available in ODS: This link here (http://www.savefile.com/files/1776478)

Other formats currently unavailable.

What is ODS, anyway?

Taeshan announces are official nomination of Daehanjeiguk for the office of world cup president. I can do that right.

While I'm honestly flattered, I promised myself that I would decline any nomination - partially because I'm going to be swamped in a few months with a bunch of stuff (and pretend sports are the last thing that I want on my list to complicate that), and partially because I'm not so certain what I would do with all of Baz's kumquat trees that currently adorn the place.

I can do that, right?

What is ODS, anyway?

ODS = open data sheet, or something very close to that...

it's Open software, and you need Open programs to access it. Or you can wait the few hours/days/weeks for someone with an ODS reader to convert it into XLS, PDF, or some cute kitten.


EDIT +++> @ Veph: If no one gets nominated to be WCC President by the time the period expires, do you automatically take the reins for the next term? (I guess you could also resign... but then that leaves Casari as the WCC Pres... and that means... *gasps* BOS!)

EDIT ===> another note, there are probably a bunch of other well-qualified candidates, since I'd probably spend too much time obsessing over every fact and detail... like THE/Arch, Zwangzug, etc. If I were making a nomination, I would nominate either/both of them for the task.

Is there a list of the top 200 teams?

The great nation of Qazox nominates: Sarah Palin for office of vice-president.. (oops wrong forum, wrong universe...lol)

AHEM.

The Great Nation of Qazox nominates: The Archregimancy for office of NSWCP!
<waits for applause>
<still waiting>
<hears crickets>

A semi-serious question, In terms of NS importance, this list is correct (other than #5-7 basically being equal), Right?


Football(Soccer)
WCDT2 blithering
Cup of Harmony
Baptism of Fire
Oxen Cup
Oriental Cup
the U-21 Cup
Tour de Qazox
World Cup of Hockey
World Baseball Classic
Olympics (either one)
Cricket World Cup
WORLD BOWL
World Basketball Championships

A semi-serious question, In terms of NS importance, this list is correct (other than #5-7 basically being equal), Right?


Football(Soccer)
WCDT2 blithering
Cup of Harmony
Baptism of Fire
Oxen Cup
Oriental Cup
the U-21 Cup
Tour de Qazox
World Cup of Hockey
World Baseball Classic
Olympics (either one)
Cricket World Cup
WORLD BOWL
World Basketball Championships



WCDT2 blithering
Football(Soccer)
...


I think this is more correct.

14. World Basketball Championships

Yes! Recognition is recognition!

<hears crickets>

I see that the Han contingent was eager to show their support for the Archregimancy!

1 Valanora 58.59
2 Capitalizt SLANI 52.59
3 Milchama 39.79
4 Starblaydia 39.43
5 Bazalonia 37.15
6 Zwangzug 36.96
7 Qazox 35.78
8 Wentland 34.83
9 Kura-Pelland 34.12
10 Tynelia 33.59
11 Yafor 2 33.46
12 Az-cz 32.95
13 Ad’ihan 32.29
14 Bostopia 30.68
15 Sel Appa 30.62
16 Demot 30.17
17 Jeruselem 30.06
18 Cafundéu 29.94
19 Bettia 28.86
20 Casari 27.69
21 Vephrall 27.65
22 Quakmybush 27.25
23 The Archregimancy 27.23
24 Dancougar 27.17
25 The Holy Empire 26.86
26 Squornshelous 26.39
27 Krytenia 25.51
28 Daehanjeiguk 24.86
29 Jasīʼyūn 24.69
30 Northern Bettia 22.98
31 Candelaria And Marquez 20.77
32 Sorthern Northland 19.08
33 Kelssek 18.94
34 Jeru FC 18.19
35 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 17.39
36 Taeshan 17.21
37 Lovisa 15.14[/I]
38 Blouman Empire 15.06
[b]39 Rennidan 14.78
40 Kereca 14.66
41 Septentrionia 14.17
42 Kose and the Turkomans 14.10
43 Prux 13.50
44 Green wombat 12.71
45 Acapais 12.55
46 KaMaRi 12.35
47 Newmanistan 11.96
48 Nire and Nire 11.54
49 Terreiro de Ogum 9.68
50 Magna Sancta Sedes 9.09
51 Universitus University 9.00
52 Kiryu-shi 8.33
53 Kosovoe 8.26
54 The Macabees 7.90
55 Land de Wood 7.73
56 Kenavt 7.70
57 Arroza 7.41
58 West Zirconia 6.45
59 Glaycia 5.79
60 The Pazhujeb Islands 5.45
61 Dance 2 Revolution 5.44
62 Jariss 5.31
63 Kanji Starter 5.03
64 New Zomboria 4.85
65 Cypron 4.70
66 Orion Star Empire 4.57
67 An Blascaod Mor 4.52
68 Greal 4.33
68 Liventia 4.33
70 Cokenia 4.33
71 Ariddia 4.29
72 Vonks 3.91
73 Magnus Valerius 3.73
74 We Hate Football 3.64
75 Spazican States 3.64
76 Gweridijongya 3.50
77 Legalese 3.17
78 Ron Paulovia 3.15
79 Icy Cold Death Touch 3.12
80 East Ying 3.00
81 Fujisawan Territories 2.73
82 Cauci 2.70
83 Lithima 2.60
84 Nethertopia 2.39
85 Aleos 2.38
86 Frontenax 2.31
87 Dennisov 2.30
88 Tokyoni 2.24
89 Algal states 2.20
89 Kolanderaz 2.20
91 Novapsolu 2.16
92 Ma Raque 2.13
93 United Hetzel 2.10
94 Free Krytenian Rebels 2.00
94 Kansiov 2.00
94 Roddyville 2.00
94 The Indonesian States 2.00
98 SFRS 1.98
99 Zarbli 1.96
100 Dariusville 1.95
101 Pablicosta 1.91
102 Nehrland 1.84
103 Scotchpinestan 1.83
104 Naggetski 1.78
105 Wijaska Island 1.73
106 Oliverry 1.71
107 Hryvinia 1.70
108 Linpada 1.67
109 Bearbears 1.65
110 The Islands of Qutar 1.60
111 Solenial 1.57
112 Abaio 1.50
112 Agroprom 1.50
114 Alversia 1.43
115 Corivia 1.40
115 Fmjphoenix 1.40
115 Hockey Canada 1.40
118 Europa Brittania 1.33
119 Unified Beretania 1.24
120 Eighthgraderistan 1.20
120 Kirrin Island 1.20
120 Ruskastan 1.20
120 SouthSuburbia 1.20
124 Beer Served Here 1.09
125 Prazkoy 1.05
126 Hopeless SC 1.04
127 Ixania 1.00
127 The Daleks 2 1.00
129 Krasslor 0.90
129 Lethislavania 0.90
129 Pantocratoria 0.90
132 Tomarian 0.82
133 Kannone 0.79
134 Ofedestan 0.78
135 Estresse Intenso 0.75
136 Aqua Teen Hungerland 0.70
136 New Cimeran 0.70
138 Lindginis Insania 0.64
139 East Antairees 0.60
139 Uiri 0.60
141 Sesquipedalianist 0.50
142 Hopeful SC 0.40
142 Iansisle 0.40
142 NS Illegal Immigrants 0.40
145 Nuevos Aires 0.36
145 Sineki 0.36
147 Montgisard 0.33
148 Gwaine 0.31
149 Kalmykstan 0.30
150 Talon Deil 0.25
151 Okuni 0.20
151 Sarejavo 0.20
153 The Supermarket 0.05
153 Violitism 0.05

*Nations with no points or negative points were ignored in the compilation.

*Countries that qualified for the World Cup - including the hosts - are bolded.

World Bowl 13th? It's gotta be at least 11th, ahead of Cricket. And I'd also have (no offense) the Oriental Cup down considerably. Not many participate there. Di Bradini is definitely ahead of the Oriental Cup.

But anyway, if we are nominating people to be the next WC President, I would like to nominate Zwangzug. His posts in this thread make it seem as if he is a problem solver, and I know from my CoH experience with him that he is very knowledgeable in all aspects.

And since Daehanjeiguk has declined the nomination the TSF has voted and approved Jerusle,me as there new choice.(and if yout don't want it we'll second Z's nomination)

And since Daehanjeiguk has declined the nomination the TSF has voted and approved Jerusle,me as there new choice.(and if yout don't want it we'll second Z's nomination)

Thanks for the thought there! I have to decline as I'm just a big attention whore ... I think the Zug is a better person to manage this NSWC than me.

Qazox is 7th in the world (after qualifying)... Even I'm beginning to get scared.

Qazox is 7th in the world (after qualifying)... Even I'm beginning to get scared.

Scared of doing a Sel Appa next cup? :)

For the interested and the uninterested:

The draw for the World Cup 42 group stage will be tomorrow (or today, depending on the timezone you live in - for example, for me it'll be today, as it is 00:41 right now in São Paulo), Tuesday 9/9/08 (or Wednesday 10/9 for some... you understand), at 00:00 GMT time (well, for the ones in GMT timezone it'll be already Wednesday) - (20:00 EDT time or 21:00 for me).*

It'll be live at the #nssport channel, with me entering IC there since 23:30 GMT time.

Of course, the WC groups will be posted in the forums soon after the draw is finished in IRC.


* translation: group draw will be when the clock reaches 00:00 GMT timezone, in the #nssport channel.

Scared of doing a Sel Appa next cup? :)

Not really, since I'm not retiring, but that means I'm now either Argentina (FIFA) or Croatia (Elo). And THAT scares me.:tongue:

Yes, you can.

For the record, any current World Cup Committee member may make a nomination. A WCC member is defined as anyone who has either
* posted rosters for each of the last two Cups (that is, 42 and 41)*
or
* previously or currently hosted a World Cup

Also, puppets do not count. One person, one vote.

* Such a roster must be posted before the end of your team's participation in order for it to count.

Why is it only rosters? Why not active particpation? So this means that despite me particpating (with RPs posted) in the past four cups because I didn't post a roster this cup I won't be able to vote for the next two?

Let's see Jeruselem = 17th

FIFA = Scotland or Bulgaria (both 16th)! That sucks ... 18th is Greece, worse.
ELO = Romania or USA (both 16th)! Eck ... 18th is Paraguay

Jeru FC = 34th
FIFA = Norway
ELO = Ivory Coast (Israel is 33rd)

ELO = Ivory Coast (Israel is 33rd)

So close, and yet...

Meanwhile I'm the Republic of Ireland aww crap now I'm never going to win the world cup. But at least I moved up three spots

Why is it only rosters? Why not active particpation? So this means that despite me particpating (with RPs posted) in the past four cups because I didn't post a roster this cup I won't be able to vote for the next two?

It's two Cups because that's the way we decided it, as rosters = active participation.

Go and post a roster now and you'll be fine :p

It's two Cups because that's the way we decided it, as rosters = active participation.

Go and post a roster now and you'll be fine :p

I know that is what it is, but I would think that RPs as well meant active participation, while I will abide by the rule (as if I have a choice I know but please humour me) I still don't like it.

Even if I posted a roster it wouldn't count would it since my World Cup campaign has come to an end.

The roster helps other teams RP, so it doesn't make sense not to post one. In any case, since most (but apparently not all) of the regular RPers post a roster (indeed, many non-RPers also post rosters), it was decided at the time that rosters would be the way to judge participation.

The roster helps other teams RP, so it doesn't make sense not to post one. In any case, since most (but apparently not all) of the regular RPers post a roster (indeed, many non-RPers also post rosters), it was decided at the time that rosters would be the way to judge participation.

Yeah that's alright, I just didn't because I was extremely busy with one thing and about a million others at the start of the qualifiers and so never got around to posting a roster, as I said it is what was decided so I just have to live by it, but now I know I won't be able to vote for both the upcoming WC bid and the next one.

Sign up (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565560) for WC43!

*me mutters some curses that he'll be stuck at a futsal match at the time of the Group Draw*

As far as I am aware, CoH participation counts towards the general season. Although I am not an expert in WCC law (it's got laws?:eek2:), the idea is to prevent the non-RPing n00bs from negatively affecting the structure of the WCC. Because we all know how much hell it would be if one of our presidents decided to leave and never come back after just one cup of his/her/its term.

Even if I posted a roster it wouldn't count would it since my World Cup campaign has come to an end.

Yes, it would. As you're in the CoH, make a roster for that and then copy it over to the WC Roster thread, I'm sure that'll still count (as President and WCC-updater from WC25 to 34, I can say that with some force of knowledge).

As far as I am aware, CoH participation counts towards the general season. Although I am not an expert in WCC law (it's got laws?:eek2:), the idea is to prevent the non-RPing n00bs from negatively affecting the structure of the WCC.

'Active participation', i.e. Rosters and RPs and such, is supposed to be rewarded. When people do that and don't get into the Finals, then we have the CoH specifically for them to boost their rank a bit so that they can pull away from the Non-RPers and not get outpaced too much by the WC Qualifiers (who may or may not have RPd)

Taeshan, to answer your question your asked in the V-V bid thread (which is better in this thread)....

Dancougar and I actually already do a "King of Pennsylvania" type friendly before World Cup qualifying for our coveted "Golden Ambiguous Bird on Skates" trophy, which originated due to the Flyers-Penguins rivalry. (the series right now is split at 1-0-1, and Dancougar has the trophy presently). I'm sure we could make an additional three way competition out of it somehow, but an actual trophy for this already exists.

Let's see Jeruselem = 17th

FIFA = Scotland or Bulgaria (both 16th)! That sucks ... 18th is Greece, worse.

At least Greece have wone something lately!

At least Greece have wone something lately!

They won the honor of losing to Spain.

Anyone else amused that Vephrall signed up 77 puppets under one name?

Dear sirs;

We are appaled at the lack of nudity in the sign-up thread, and are considering not signing up. However, just to spite you, we will be.

Bostopia's in.

Well, you could start the honorable tradition...

Moving this over from the sign-up thread, and taking the liberty to edit Taeshan's post for spelling and grammar...

Well, yes, active AIF in this - but Ariddia is still around, though not as active, and they dont play in the WC.

And that, love, is precisely what I meant - and what I assume everyone else thought I meant: the Holy Empire are last team to have participated in WC1 to still be active in the WC.

I wrote 'probably' to cover the possibility of an Ariddian re-entry or a surprise, like Europa Britannia's return from the dead last WC.

Oh, and according to the Holy Empire's dossier, Tanah Burung is back from the dead and in Lazarus. Who'd have thunk it. Next we'll see a return from Brazillico, Giant Zucchini or Al Quds.

Ah, memories.....

Group D
Jeru FC (34)
Jasīʼyūn (29)
Valanora (1)
Qazox (7)

Jeru FC are screwed ...

Group B
Wentland (8)
Sorthern Northland (32)
Bazalonia (5)
Daehanjeiguk (28)

WTFM??? Am I a Wentland-Baz magnet??? What does it take to get rid of these chaps???

At least we're in Cafundeu...

(which means Sept is scoring - SHIT!)

Ah, memories.....


I am presuming that the Archregimancy has not declined the offer of candidacy made by Qazox? And I also presume that Zwangzug has not declined likewise the offer of candidacy by a whole heck of a bunch of people?

In any case, I genuinely support their candidacy and will shove as much money to ensuring that they are elected. (whoops, was that out loud?)

Looks like a tough little group that doesn't it?

Well one team aside of course. :D

Looks like a tough little group that doesn't it?

Well one team aside of course. :D

We can predict Group B and D easily unless there's some upsets.
Jeru FC and SN are in the boat with holes in it ...

Let me see my POTENTIAL schedule (if I advance and rankings hold)
R16: vs. Milchama/Bostopia
Qtrs: vs. Bazalonia/Wentland/Ad'ihan/Cafundeu
SF: vs. potential re-match w/ Valanora
Final: SLANI, Jeruselem, Zwangzug, Starblaydia or Tynelia

Any way i can switch with Prux? LOL

I had an easier draw in WC41!

Let me see my POTENTIAL schedule (if I advance and rankings hold)
R16: vs. Milchama/Bostopia
Qtrs: vs. Bazalonia/Wentland/Ad'ihan/Cafundeu
SF: vs. potential re-match w/ Valanora
Final: SLANI, Jeruselem, Zwangzug, Starblaydia or Tynelia

Any way i can switch with Prux? LOL

I had an easier draw in WC41!

At least you got a nice group with idiots Jeru FC, Group F is not F for Fun. :p

Well the only postive that I can see is IF things break the right way, FINALLY the last 2 active (i'm not counting Green wombat, as he's only occasionally involved) members of the Class of WC27 will play a meaningful match. And yes we did play in WC35, but both of us were basically eliminated anyway.

We can predict Group B and D easily unless there's some upsets.
Jeru FC and SN are in the boat with holes in it ...

Considering SN didn't even want to qualify I'm sure they won't be too upset. :tongue:

I am presuming that the Archregimancy has not declined the offer of candidacy made by Qazox? And I also presume that Zwangzug has not declined likewise the offer of candidacy by a whole heck of a bunch of people?


If nominated, I will run, and if elected, I will serve.

But, unaware that others were doing likewise, I was one of apparently several people to nominate Zwangzug.

England 4- @ Croatia 1

Almost makes up for not qualifying for Euro08, does it not?

(Its WAY WAY too early but: Through 2 fixtures here's UEFA's World Cup teams Not including 2nd placed teams.)

Albania
Greece
Poland
Germany
Spain
England
Lithuania (YAY!)
Italy
Netherlands

England 4- @ Croatia 1

Almost makes up for not qualifying for Euro08, does it not?

(Its WAY WAY too early but: Through 2 fixtures here's UEFA's World Cup teams Not including 2nd placed teams.)

Albania
Greece
Poland
Germany
Spain
England
Lithuania (YAY!)
Italy
Netherlands

I guess we're not supposed to take as much pride in U.S.A. 3 - Trinidad y Tobago 0? (Thank god for Concacaf.)

Oh man, if the U.S. drew Albania and Lithuania, they might escape the first round again!

Are people aware that NSwiki is back up and runnning with all the old pages intact.

You can find it here (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Main_Page).

There's a lot of catching up to do.

I guess we're not supposed to take as much pride in U.S.A. 3 - Trinidad y Tobago 0? (Thank god for Concacaf.)

I'd be more impressed with the win if it was at T&T, rather than in Chicago.

And Yes Erri, we know it's back up. Some of us are using Wikistates and others might be moving stuff back from Wikistates to NsWiki.

Besides i'm 25% Lithuanian (my grandma came over to the US just before the end of WWI) and so i have a interest in how well they do.

England 4- @ Croatia 1

Almost makes up for not qualifying for Euro08, does it not?

Don't worry. They'll lose to Spain. :P

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

BoF bid submissions are now closed.

We have one bid (Cafundéu and Estresse Intenso (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565391)), so it's the usual yay-or-nay vote. Telegrams to Vephrall, EWCC members only, you know the drill.

Voting ends Wednesday 17 September at 2359 UTC.

Scorination for the Cafundéu region (scorinated by me) will be late tonight because err... drinking and socialisation have priority

Scorination for the Cafundéu region (scorinated by me) will be late tonight because err... drinking and socialisation have priority

That is true, so how long a wait we talking about, Willis?:p

That is true, so how long a wait we talking about, Willis?:p

Isn't that directly proportional to alcohol consumed? :tongue:

Isn't that directly proportional to alcohol consumed? :tongue:

Most likely.

Han, I've only noticed this as I was looking out for Seoan in their Final, but...

Season 8 - IFA Cup Final Rounds
Round 9
Sanghae Gukjei 0-1 Shilla
Hapbi 2-2 Seoan Gukjei (2-2 AET) (Seoan Gukjei wins 4-2 on penalty
kicks)

Round 10
Shilla --- Seoan Gukjei

The semifinals were also tense, as Shilla pulled out a slender win over Sanghae Gukjei, while Seoan Gukjei forced another PK shoot-out against Hapbi. It all boils down to the last match - Shilla and Seoan Gukjei. The Starblaydii contigent will be pleased to know that their manager has done well to ensure their team's success, but of the two teams, Shilla has the experience to win the Cup. In the end, it will boil down to an interesting match that will have people talking for a long time.


IFA Cup Final

Jonam 2-1 Gwangdong

I think the word I'm after is "huh?"

Glaycia (Tynelia), I see you still can't post as Tynelia!

I think the word I'm after is "huh?"

I think the word - after reading everything else - is "WTF".

Um, so I've reviewed everything, and I now realized that I scored the final match using the Test sample. It shouldn't count because (1) the teams were basically equally capable of progressing to the next round as opposed to others, and (2) The line-up was a bit screwed up in the test sample, which was fixed for the final draw.

I'm doubling checking the Emperor's Cup too, although I'm mildly confident that there was no error there. I have noticed - however - that some teams in the Leagues have been playing their second match at home twice (and vice versa) - which I'm hoping is a result of the fixture generator and not me...

Anyway, thanks for noting this - bonus points for you!

PS>>> I'm not online - I'm waking up from bed getting ready for classes - this is just an illusion!!! this is just an illusion!!!

Glaycia (Tynelia), I see you still can't post as Tynelia!

yup Glaycia is the only one of my three nations that can actually post here. there was a brief point for about a week or so where i could get tynelia posting again but then i got the forum connection errors again so have to do everything the Glaycian way until it decides to work again.

Can't you just manually log in to the forums as Tynelia when that happens? I had what I think is the error you're describing yesterday, but manually logging in to the forums as Vephrall worked just fine. Of course, I could be wrong and you might be talking about a different error.

nope only one that works with is Glaycia, i get invalid username/password messages for any of the others and i use the same ones to log into NS directly so not sure why it decides to not work on a regular basis.

edit- well i tried updating passwords and reseting and all that and managed to get Jariss up and running for now. everytime i log in for Tynelia and ask to get a reset password it keeps sending e-mails telling me "OK we're ready to change GLAYCIA'S password just like you asked."

nope only one that works with is Glaycia, i get invalid username/password messages for any of the others and i use the same ones to log into NS directly so not sure why it decides to not work on a regular basis.

edit- well i tried updating passwords and reseting and all that and managed to get Jariss up and running for now. everytime i log in for Tynelia and ask to get a reset password it keeps sending e-mails telling me "OK we're ready to change GLAYCIA'S password just like you asked."

did ya accidently set Glaycia's e-mail to the same one as Tynelia's? (Cause that's supposedly the reason why I can't login under Sativaville anymore)

C-Electronics, with the support of Banco Econômico directors and Olho no Lance! Magazine announce:

The sequel of NSWC Manager 36, the NSWC Manager 42 (http://www.savefile.com/files/1784494)

WHooo! only been waiting 24 years for the sequel! (sells 3 old copies of NSWCM36)

did ya accidently set Glaycia's e-mail to the same one as Tynelia's? (Cause that's supposedly the reason why I can't login under Sativaville anymore)

The Archregimancy and AIF use the same e-mail address, and it's never caused me a problem.

The Archregimancy and AIF use the same e-mail address, and it's never caused me a problem.

Jeruselem and Jeru FC use the same address too so I don't think it's that either.

maybe its because i have all three nations with the same e-mail. maybe it doesn;t accept more than 2. though the oldest one of the three is the one ignored i have no idea. let me test changing one of them to something else and see what happens.

I have four of my five nations all on the same e-mail and I can post with all of them, so it's not that either.

Maybe Tynelia has the same problem that Yafor 2 has?

That's unrelated. It's not a log-in problem. That's an account problem - I'm *told* to RP with this account. I *can use* the other count, I'm just not allowed to. The other account is a sort of pseudo-guest.

I imagine Tynelia's problem is something new - a close friend has something similar going on. I think NS and the fora are not on the same wavelength, for whatever reason.

well as you can see i got Jariss up and running again so now 2 out of 3 nations can post. however when i send it for a password reset etc with tynleia (which is how i got jariss up and running), i only get emails for glaycia and jariss to set up new passwords and not tynelia. i sent a reply back to one of those messages explainging what's going on so we'll see.

well as you can see i got Jariss up and running again so now 2 out of 3 nations can post. however when i send it for a password reset etc with tynleia (which is how i got jariss up and running), i only get emails for glaycia and jariss to set up new passwords and not tynelia. i sent a reply back to one of those messages explainging what's going on so we'll see.

Just create Tynelia2, only other thing I can think of.

I'll reiterate my OOC comment here:

Prux should be eliminated as there is no senario in which they can finish higher than both Yafor 2 and Septtentrionia, seeing as those 2 teams face off in the 3rd matchday.

Ooh, WHAT a surprise, eliminated from the group stages.

Thank you scorinator, that confirms my RP next time out.

Just create Tynelia2, only other thing I can think of.

Right now this bug is preventing any new nations from using the forums, as well as any nation who hadn't already registered for the forum by verifying their e-mail. It's been posted in the moderation forums, so they are aware of it, though I am not sure how particularly urgent they feel that it is.

This will probably also seriously limit Baptism of Fire 30 signups unless it resolved very quickly.

I'll reiterate my OOC comment here:

Prux should be eliminated as there is no senario in which they can finish higher than both Yafor 2 and Septtentrionia, seeing as those 2 teams face off in the 3rd matchday.

Yep, and for exactly the same reason, Vephrall is through to the next round. :)

I hope that Jeru doesn't think that we're ganging up on him - well, that I'm not ganging up on him. It's a wonderful diplomatic opportunity to cast a few RPs about :D

I hope that Jeru doesn't think that we're ganging up on him - well, that I'm not ganging up on him. It's a wonderful diplomatic opportunity to cast a few RPs about :D

Suits me fine, that's why Jeruselem is about! I am ze master of scandal. No one can manufacture one like me.
We are Israel, we don't care about human rights really! At least we aren't threatening a war with SN like last time.

Anyway, it helps all involved.

PS - You've got over 500 posts in this thread, Qaz is nearly at 600. I've just short of 500.

O Lord of Scores why doth thou continue to forsake me?!?!

DAMN Jeru FC, couldn't get me a dang tie.. huh?

Well i guess my streak will re-begin anew.

DAMN Jeru FC, couldn't get me a dang tie.. huh?

Well i guess my streak will re-begin anew.

It's a bit random ... maybe you should have had Rennidan instead of Jeru FC in your group!

I noticed a pattern for MD3 - Adi'han, Baz, you and Han attacked in a pack - but only Han made the 2nd round.
The Monks and Bostopia supported me and made it.

Hey - I didn't attack in the pack... If anything... I LEAD the attack out front...

Stupid Hanese

It's a bit random ... maybe you should have had Rennidan instead of Jeru FC in your group!

I noticed a pattern for MD3 - Adi'han, Baz, you and Han attacked in a pack - but only Han made the 2nd round.
The Monks and Bostopia supported me and made it.

I didn't support you either, just used ya a stepping off point for my WC43 RP. and i didn't advance either. (Damn Jeruselem lovin' Margaret...:eek2:)

Anyway. Just wondering How many nations in the World Cup have scored 700 goals in their existance? Cause what ever that # is, Add Qazox to the list.

I didn't support you either, just used ya a stepping off point for my WC43 RP. and i didn't advance either. (Damn Jeruselem lovin' Margaret...:eek2:)

Anyway. Just wondering How many nations in the World Cup have scored 700 goals in their existance? Cause what ever that # is, Add Qazox to the list.

Oh well, I think Dazza needs new job in Jeruselem ...

Third straight cup, 1-0-2 in the group stage. But at least my goal differential wasn't negative this time :-D Moooving on up!

I didn't support you either, just used ya a stepping off point for my WC43 RP. and i didn't advance either. (Damn Jeruselem lovin' Margaret...:eek2:)

Anyway. Just wondering How many nations in the World Cup have scored 700 goals in their existance? Cause what ever that # is, Add Qazox to the list.

I'm currently at #214 in WCC-sanctioned matches.

I'm currently at #214 in WCC-sanctioned matches.

Well I'm counting every thing, except friendlies. NOT including the Oxen Cup or the Draggonnii Inviyattii, then Qazox has only 592 offical WC-sanctioned Goals. But still 700 sound more impressive than 592, right?

(if I counted the WWC goals then Qazox has a goal total of: 940 goals scored in all matches played by Qazox. If I included the Olympics, Qazox has: 994 total goals)

Well, neither of those tournaments are WCC-sanctioned. There are only three such tournaments.

Oh boy, I looked on the new NSWIKI ... World Cup 38 is latest listed so there's going to be lot of work for updating it adding 38-42.

AND

Looking for a new coach for Jeru FC!

Well, neither of those tournaments are WCC-sanctioned. There are only three such tournaments.

I know that, but ICly, the QFC does count the Oxen Cup and the Draggonnii Inviyattii as Games played, but not the WWC, The Olympics or friendlies.

Jeru FC could take my Old Coach, Ryan Greenley, if they want. He is a no-nonsense coach.

I know that, but ICly, the QFC does count the Oxen Cup and the Draggonnii Inviyattii as Games played, but not the WWC, The Olympics or friendlies.

Jeru FC could take my Old Coach, Ryan Greenley, if they want. He is a no-nonsense coach.

Send his details via TG! He'll fit in fine with french speaking Jerus and people fond of nudity here.

Oh boy, I looked on the new NSWIKI ... World Cup 38 is latest listed so there's going to be lot of work for updating it adding 38-42.

AND

Looking for a new coach for Jeru FC!

WCs 40 and 41 are on wikistates, so can just be copied straight over (generally)

(OOC: Just wondering, how many other teams have scored 700 goals, besides the obvious ones?)

If I included the Olympics, Qazox has: 994 total goals)

Erm, probably just the obvious ones? The real question is how many goals per game. If you've been around for X-many World Cups then the chances are you've probably scored quite a few.

Starblaydia, at last count at some point after WC41, had scored 1,516 and conceded 778 goals in 706 games from WCs 15 to 41, excepting 35, 36 & 37.

Random number statwanking is only really useful for yourself in RPs or wikification (as the number of people taking any real notice of the paragraph above this one is probably limited to just me).

kudos to whomever guesses the current inspiration for the MSS RPs :D

I... I beat Tynelia? I KNOCKED TYNELIA OUT!

MWUAHAHA!

I guess if I'm going down, I'm bringing you with me. :D

.....

Well I aplogize for the statwanking.

At least we aren't threatening a war with SN like last time.

We (well the SN anyway) are quite pleased about that too. :tongue:

Caf - If you see this first, I sent you a TG.

The Monks and Bostopia supported me and made it.

Yeah, I had two approaches. The first was that our laws are similar on what people do in blatent public. The second was leave Jeru to their ways.

And then I had a member of the cabinet admit Bostopia was a one party state! Hah!

Back to football: Wow, I have a decent chance of making the SFs should I beat Jasi'yun. The team closest to me in rankings who I could play is Caf, who's ranked 18th to my 14th. Then I could probably end up facing Valanora or Mil, and let's face it, lightning doesn't strike twice. Often.

Heh, as I said on #nssport, "Stop thinking ahead, Bos."

As one can tell, I prefer the Old Testament to the New Testament is the new one is boring! :)

The question is - is Queen Kate Dallas - the new Gomer!

As one can tell, I prefer the Old Testament to the New Testament is the new one is boring! :)

The question is - is Queen Kate Dallas - the new Gomer!

Actually, I think Dazza would make a better example.

Actually, I think Dazza would make a better example.

Gomer would fit Dazza's mother Natasha too.

Now, who's this Lilith character? :)

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

Voting for Baptism of Fire hosts is now over.

The lone vote received was to approve Cafundéu and Estresse Intenso as hosts of the competition.

- - -

World Cup hosting bid submissions remain open through Wednesday 24 September; voting will take place for one week following that date.

- - -

Nominations for the next WCC President remain open through the conclusion of World Cup 42.

- - -

I will be away from NS and IRC tomorrow through Saturday due to RL stipulations (i.e. a class assignment). I will be available again at 0400 UTC on Sunday.

I thought Estresse Intenso didn't exist anymore.

Estresse Intenso exists. It's just that the country doesn't send a team in the World Cup anymore (which was just the Landau Institute team, btw). Terreiro de Ogum is a small part of Estresse Intenso that got its independence.

Estresse Intenso exists. It's just that the country doesn't send a team in the World Cup anymore (which was just the Landau Institute team, btw). Terreiro de Ogum is a small part of Estresse Intenso that got its independence.

Ok, I remembered Terreiro de Ogum was kinda related to the ending of E/I sending teams.

I'd like to mention that I am interested in bidding to host Cup of Harmony 35, using NS Footy (Veph's scorinator), if anybody is interested in attempting a joint bid. It's a bit precipitated, I know, but it doesn't hurt to start early!

Jeruselem x The Archregimancy - Complexe SR Banque Économique

Another Holy war coming up!

Jeruselem x The Archregimancy - Complexe SR Banque Économique

Another Holy war coming up!

After what's happened this past season, this is Part MXCIII...

For the rankings obsessed folks

Jeruselem (17)x The Archregimancy (23) - Complexe SR Banque Économique
Zwangzug (6) x Candelaria And Marquez (31) - Stade 1093, Ourseville
Cafundéu (18) - Bostopia (14) @ Arena América, Abadia
Daehanjeiguk (28) - Valanora (1) @ Maracatuzão, Dunboor

Note only 2 of top ten seeds are left and only 3 of the 11-20 seeds left. 3 seeds outside the top 20! No seeds outside to 32.
I expect the Zug to make the top 5 now.

PS - The acting PM of (RL) Israel is a female (Tzipi Livni) ...

For the statisticians out there...

In 19 World Cups, this is only the Archregimancy's second appearance in the quarterfinals, and their first since they co-hosted all the way back in WC28.

It's also the first time that either of the Dreamed Realm teams has reached the quarterfinals of a tournament they're not involved in hosting:

Holy Empire quarterfinal appearances: WC2, WC34

Archregimancy quarterfinal appearances: WC28, WC42

Jeruselem vs. Arch, that's like half of the ever cursed final four with Qazox and Tynelia being the other half. someone DOES have to win right? :p

I... I beat Tynelia? I KNOCKED TYNELIA OUT!

MWUAHAHA!

I guess if I'm going down, I'm bringing you with me. :D

it's a Tynelian rule- especially if jeruselem is involved and long odds. if Tynelia faces a low ranked team on the final day and only one scenraio exists where we get in and Jeruselem doesn't then there is a 100% chance that will be the Margaret induced result. i think this is at least the second time its happened. first involved Qazox being the ones to knock off us after they were eliminated and were the 4th seed of the group a few cups back.

it's a Tynelian rule- especially if jeruselem is involved and long odds. if Tynelia faces a low ranked team on the final day and only one scenraio exists where we get in and Jeruselem doesn't then there is a 100% chance that will be the Margaret induced result. i think this is at least the second time its happened. first involved Qazox being the ones to knock off us after they were eliminated and were the 4th seed of the group a few cups back.

True, but you did become the first Class of Wc27 team to get out of the 1st round the next World Cup, so why are you complaining?

because it took me about 8 tries to even get to the cup proper in the first place. and besides there's what 2 of us that have done it now? unless the Wombats become regular performers again i don't see that number changing ever again.

besides you were the first class of 27 to actually make the WC and it's never stopped you :tongue:

because it took me about 8 tries to even get to the cup proper in the first place. and besides there's what 2 of us that have done it now? unless the Wombats become regular performers again i don't see that number changing ever again.

besides you were the first class of 27 to actually make the WC and it's never stopped you :tongue:

Funny that, took Jeruselem and Jeru FC 8 cups to qualify!

because it took me about 8 tries to even get to the cup proper in the first place. and besides there's what 2 of us that have done it now? unless the Wombats become regular performers again i don't see that number changing ever again.

besides you were the first class of 27 to actually make the WC and it's never stopped you :tongue:

Well I got that going for me, which is nice.

(1 happy point if you can identify the movie i cribbed that line from)

Ah finally just weeks from now, a taeshani inductee into the Hall of Fame, and maybe are second WCP appearance. 5 times baybe.

As commentary on the signup thread (and earlier in this one) would indicate, a posting bug affecting new nations could become problematic. (Also, there aren't 78 signups-that was presumably a copy and paste from the WC42 signup thread.)

Would it make sense to edit the first post by telling new users that can't post to telegram their signups to the NSWC Signups account? Things will get more difficult in the Baptism of Fire, admittedly...would people need to TG RPs to the hosts? Or have an e-mail "drop box" that any user could access and post? Just throwing ideas out there.

When do you estimate that the BoF will take place? Are there any hints that the problem is being worked on by Jolt staff?

<--------- repent! world coming to an end!

As commentary on the signup thread (and earlier in this one) would indicate, a posting bug affecting new nations could become problematic. (Also, there aren't 78 signups-that was presumably a copy and paste from the WC42 signup thread.)

Would it make sense to edit the first post by telling new users that can't post to telegram their signups to the NSWC Signups account? Things will get more difficult in the Baptism of Fire, admittedly...would people need to TG RPs to the hosts? Or have an e-mail "drop box" that any user could access and post? Just throwing ideas out there.

That sounds like a good Idea to me, TG the signups to the NWSC account or e-mail it. As for the RP part of the equation, that still got me stumped.

The Archregimancy in the World Cup Semis? :eek:

<--------- repent! world coming to an end!

Uh. No. Tynelia v Qazox is the NSWC final, THAT IS THE END OF THE WORLD :D

az-cz is back and will make an effort to rp this time around.

crap.

I don't know if this means that the forum bug/problem is solved, but there were some new sign-ups of new teams for WC43 in a short period of time. As Tynelia is back too, I think that things are returning to normal.

Well, the Monks beat me but I think this is the Zug's cup.
I did make the top 8 still, so I should be near the top 10 again ...

Pleased though I am to reach the semi-finals for the first time in a combined total (for both Dreamed Realm teams) of about 40 cups, I'm frustratingly about to go on holiday for five days. Without a computer.

I should be able to RP reaction to my defeat of the fallen women, but I won't know the outcome of the semis and final / third place match until Thursday.

Hopefully most of you will understand that a RL break with my wife takes precedence over reaching the NSWC semis, even if it is for the first time.

Pleased though I am to reach the semi-finals for the first time in a combined total (for both Dreamed Realm teams) of about 40 cups, I'm frustratingly about to go on holiday for five days. Without a computer.

I should be able to RP reaction to my defeat of the fallen women, but I won't know the outcome of the semis and final / third place match until Thursday.

Hopefully most of you will understand that a RL break with my wife takes precedence over reaching the NSWC semis, even if it is for the first time.

Well GL on Holiday w/ wifey. and I hope that Margaret likes you enough to at least let ya get into the finals.

Have fun there Arch! Maybe even Maggie might decide to go holidays! :wink:

Pleased though I am to reach the semi-finals for the first time in a combined total (for both Dreamed Realm teams) of about 40 cups, I'm frustratingly about to go on holiday for five days. Without a computer.

I should be able to RP reaction to my defeat of the fallen women, but I won't know the outcome of the semis and final / third place match until Thursday.

Hopefully most of you will understand that a RL break with my wife takes precedence over reaching the NSWC semis, even if it is for the first time.

There's a perfect solution to this problem! Bring your wife with you to the Semifinals! It'll be a perfect vacation in Septentrionie!

*me rethinks that*

Bring a sweater too!

Well I got that going for me, which is nice.

(1 happy point if you can identify the movie i cribbed that line from)

Only one point? Oh well I might as well take it, Caddyshack.

There's a perfect solution to this problem! Bring your wife with you to the Semifinals! It'll be a perfect vacation in Septentrionie!

*me rethinks that*

Bring a sweater too!

Yeah, Arch's wife might be allergic to Pistachio nuts too.

Yeah, Arch's wife might be allergic to Pistachio nuts too.

Celeriac, actually.

The very first time I intentionally set out to impress her by cooking dinner, I gave her a violent allergic reaction by serving oysters in a Belgian beer-based cream sauce all served on a bed of celeriac.

She obviously forgave me.

Anyway, last post from me until Thursday or Friday. Good luck to Han, Valanara and Zwangzug; may the team with the best combination of rank, luck and RP bonus win.

Celeriac, actually.

The very first time I intentionally set out to impress her by cooking dinner, I gave her a violent allergic reaction by serving oysters in a Belgian beer-based cream sauce all served on a bed of celeriac.

She obviously forgave me.

Anyway, last post from me until Thursday or Friday. Good luck to Han, Valanara and Zwangzug; may the team with the best combination of rank, luck and RP bonus win.

1) Ooh, so THAT'S how you get a girl

2) No luck for me :( I am obviously damned.

Anyway, last post from me until Thursday or Friday. Good luck to Han, Valanara and Zwangzug; may the team with the best combination of rank, luck and RP bonus win.

Um, well thanks for the blessings, but as the Han already lost to Valanora, I guess the only luck I'll need is getting those Catholic heretics through to win the CoH.

Valanora x Zwangzug in the WC final?

That's like having to choose between the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Yankees.. which do you hate less? (I don't hate either Valanora or Zwangzug and wish both of them GL, but I hate both the Cowgirls and the Yukkies)

on second thought, since Valanora knocked me out, go Zwangzug!

Jeruselem welcome to the 500 club. (again)

Valanora x Zwangzug in the WC final?

That's like having to choose between the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Yankees.. which do you hate less? (I don't hate either Valanora or Zwangzug and wish both of them GL, but I hate both the Cowgirls and the Yukkies)

on second thought, since Valanora knocked me out, go Zwangzug!

I have a feeling the Zug could be winnars! That 3 all draw with them was lucky ...

(This is my 501st in this thread)

Anyway, last post from me until Thursday or Friday. Good luck to Han, Valanara and Zwangzug; may the team with the best combination of rank, luck and RP bonus win.

Look what you did! We both lost :p

Mind, I only let in two goals against top 3 teams in the World this WC, so I'm rather pleased with that, let alone getting to the Semis! Congrats to ESF, best of luck to both the finalists.

Look what you did! We both lost :p

Mind, I only let in two goals against top 3 teams in the World this WC, so I'm rather pleased with that, let alone getting to the Semis! Congrats to ESF, best of luck to both the finalists.

Hey, don't forget the Maggie factor! :)

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Bwahahahaha!An intimidating threat.

Are you going to RP the matches before the participants?

Due to the fact htat I'm hosting the 7th World Cup of Hockey, the Oxen Cup MIGHT NOT be held this "season". But if the BoF hasn't started by the time the WCoH reaches the semis, Then I might start it, BUT will someone else be willing to host it?

You know, you'd think I would havve noticed this earlier, but: Congrats to ME upon becoming the inaugural member of the 600 NSWCDT Post club.

Due to the fact htat I'm hosting the 7th World Cup of Hockey, the Oxen Cup MIGHT NOT be held this "season". But if the BoF hasn't started by the time the WCoH reaches the semis, Then I might start it, BUT will someone else be willing to host it?

You know, you'd think I would havve noticed this earlier, but: Congrats to ME upon becoming the inaugural member of the 600 NSWCDT Post club.

I noticed but hinted at this earlier.
Me and Han are in the 500+ club.

I have Futsal and U21s to tend to so, no hurry with Oxen.

Just a question I was clicking on the links on the 1st post of this thread and they are the links to the old address of NSWiki, just wondering if these might be changed soon? Or just letting people know that it needs to be fixed, whichever works best.

Also, come on Newmanistan to win the CoH final.

Newmanistan! CoH winnars! Joins the ranks of the likes of Jeru FC.

Yes, well done Newmanistan. I can't believe I lost the third place playoff, and to go down in penalties too.

4-3 now that would have been an exciting game, unlike mine.

Thanks! Just one more to complete the triple. :) Though that's going to take a while (probably)! It'll be ok as long as we don't get that Cup of Harmony reputation like a certain military team.

Now, I root for Zwangzug to complete the double for Cup of Harmony 33 co-hosts. Come on Zug!

Thanks! Just one more to complete the triple. :) Though that's going to take a while (probably)! It'll be ok as long as we don't get that Cup of Harmony reputation like a certain military team.

Now, I root for Zwangzug to complete the double for Cup of Harmony 33 co-hosts. Come on Zug!

Well, winning the CoH is one thing ... winning the NSWC is a totally different thing, let alone qualifying! :)

World Cup 50 is still the target.... though I realize that's probably optimistic. We'll get there... eventually!

WTG Newmanistan on your historic Double. I think you might be one of the VERY few who have done that (Bof and CoH wins). Just need luck, patience and persistance to get the Triple Crown. (Qazox has a triple crown of its own: Eliminated in the quarterfinals in the BoF, CoH and NSWC, or the Positive one: Champions of GridIron/American Football, Baseball and Ice Hockey, all concurrently, though WCoH 7 is under way) just need Football/Soccer and Basketball, then I can retire! LOL.

WTG Newmanistan on your historic Double. I think you might be one of the VERY few who have done that (Bof and CoH wins). Just need luck, patience and persistance to get the Triple Crown. (Qazox has a triple crown of its own: Eliminated in the quarterfinals in the BoF, CoH and NSWC, or the Positive one: Champions of GridIron/American Football, Baseball and Ice Hockey, all concurrently, though WCoH 7 is under way) just need Football/Soccer and Basketball, then I can retire! LOL.

I've been in the final or won most football cups (except the ones I don't enter) save for one cup - Di Bradini U21. Jeruselem entered the WC too early for a BoF attempt. Jeru FC won the CoH - which is something Jeruselem failed to earlier.

And a slightly belated WTG to Valanora/ESF for winning the latest NSWCtitle. Damn you. Coulda/woulda/shoulda been me. But then again, Ms. Maggie hates me.

Congrats to Valanora!

My team suffered a lot during CoH. That was their worse performance ever.

Hopefully, we'll do better.

Is Valanora ... the new Ariddia? :p

WTG Newmanistan on your historic Double. I think you might be one of the VERY few who have done that (Bof and CoH wins)...

BoF: Check.
CoH: Check.
U21: Check.
WC: Ah well, not yet.

Just the big one to go for Newmanistan, then, for what I would imagine would be a fairly unique set of trophies, as I can't remember anyone else winning all four in their time (as Starblaydia has never won the CoH, for instance).

Congratulations to Valanora, World Cup 42 champions!

All right, a few announcements from the presidential end:

Presidential nominations and World Cup 43 hosting bids will both be accepted until 2359 UTC tonight (7:59pm Eastern).
I will need a volunteer to collect the votes for WC43 hosts, since I am a candidate in that particular race.
Voting in both of these elections should commence shortly after the end of the submission periods.
The new WCC president's term will begin immediately following the election (which will, as is typical, last one week) and will run through World Cups 43, 44, and 45.

My team suffered a lot during CoH. That was their worse performance ever.


You'll make it up during the Díenstad Cup. :p

BoF: Check.
CoH: Check.
U21: Check.
WC: Ah well, not yet.

Just the big one to go for Newmanistan, then, for what I would imagine would be a fairly unique set of trophies, as I can't remember anyone else winning all four in their time (as Starblaydia has never won the CoH, for instance).

Lost the following finals:

BoF: Check
CoH: Check
DBC: Lost Semifinals! (need one more)
IFC (Golden Cup): Check
WC: getting there!

2 more final losses to complete my quintet of dishonor!

Won the following finals:

BoF: Check
CoH: haven't even qualified yet
DBC: Check
IFC: not yet
WC: not even!

As you can see, it's easier to lose a final than it is to win a final :P

Jeruselem finals record

Women's World Cup - Won 3, lost 1
Original U21 World Cup - Win 2, lost 1
Futsal (held by Macabees/Yafor 2) - Won 1, lost 1
Justantina U21 - Won 1, lost 0
Oxen Cup - Won 2, lost 0
Di Bradini U21 - Never been in final (3rd once)
Q-CUP (Qazox) - Won 0, Lost 1
Cup of Harmony - Won 1, Lost 1 (this includes Jeru FC's win)*
Frenchie Cup (in Ariddia) - Never been in final (3rd once)
Turtle Cup - Won 1, Lost 0
NSWC - Won 0, Lost 1 (QF twice, 2nd round 8 times)

Tour de Qazox - Won 2 (twice runner up)

* Jeru FC has been 3rd or 4th a lot on CoH

Only, BoF is missing ... really.
Mind you I've been here for quite a while so one slowly collects cups over time.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

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Voting will be open until Wednesday 1 October. DO NOT SEND YOUR VOTES TO ME! I am a candidate here, and therefore all votes should instead be telegrammed to Daehanjeiguk. All WCC members (i.e. all former WC hosts, plus everyone who has submitted rosters for both WC42 and WC41) are eligible to vote, except for Valanora and myself, obviously.

* * *

The nomination period for our next World Cup Committee president is now also closed.

Here is the list of nominees, in alphabetical order (not all were mentioned in this thread, some were telegrammed to me):

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Zwangzug
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Well since everyone else is doing it Finals

Never been in one, I have always lost out at the quarters or semis, in those comps which I was actively participating in.

Football/Soccer:
Oxen Cup: 0/1 in finals.
World Cup: never made it past Qtrs.
BoF: never made it past Qtrs.
CoH: never made it past Qtrs.
Women's world Cup: 3 titles, lost 2, 1 Gold medal, 1 silver Medal.
Dragonnii Inviyattii: never made it past Qtrs.

Every Other Sport (except Lacrosse, Futsal and Basketball)
Baseball: won 2 titles, lost 1
Hockey: Won 2 titles
Tour de Qazox: won 1 international
GridIron/American Football: 1 title, 1 loss.

MAYBE I should stick with non-football/soccer sports. I seem to have much better luck there. except with the women...HMMM.;)

Mostly for Bos; Wikipedia's article on the Verdeja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdeja) (written by myself) will be on the main page on 26 September. It's my first featured article (so far five, a sixth going through FAC) to be on the main page (and probably my only one for a long time :p ).

Mostly for Bos; Wikipedia's article on the Verdeja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdeja) (written by myself) will be on the main page on 26 September. It's my first featured article (so far five, a sixth going through FAC) to be on the main page (and probably my only one for a long time :p ).

You feeding Bos obsession with tanks? :)