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Thank you.

Amen to that. Glad to see another Gooner around here.

Is that the Arsenal Score or the New England Patriots record? lol

both

Amen to that. Glad to see another Gooner around here.

Christ, there's three of you? Which one's the dog?

make that 4 :) Go the Gunners!!!!!!!!!!!!!! President Nire is a big fan and is considering launching a hostile take overbid!

BoF Host Vote!

Apparently, fewer people were interested in voting for the BoF host...

There were only four votes, and... it's a draw.

Novapsolu: 2
Miceland: 2

I'll let Baz decide what happens next. Either we can hold a brief second round, or the voting period can be extended slightly.

Is the CoH, BoF and the WC the only way of increasing your KPB Ranking? or are there regional competitions like the Euro Cup or the Copa America?

Is the CoH, BoF and the WC the only way of increasing your KPB Ranking?

This is correct.

or are there regional competitions like the Euro Cup or the Copa America?

Regions are free to run their own tournaments; these have no bearing on the KPB ranks, or the World Cup and related tournaments.

BoF Host Vote!

Apparently, fewer people were interested in voting for the BoF host...

There were only four votes, and... it's a draw.

Novapsolu: 2
Miceland: 2

I'll let Baz decide what happens next. Either we can hold a brief second round, or the voting period can be extended slightly.

We'll extend voting for a bit.

Ariddia, can you please TG everyone that hasn't voted that can?

That should get you the votes necessary, have 3 more days of voting.

Is that the Arsenal Score or the New England Patriots record? lol

Or alternatively, the reverse of the Miami SuperbowlFins (sounds kinda like Dolphins - plus I know I need a new name for them) record. If they go 0 - 8 on Sunday, I'll be the one at Wembley crying his eyes out.

Ariddia, can you please TG everyone that hasn't voted that can?


Done.

Apologies to go off subject and talk about a sport with a stupid shape ball, but does anyone know or have a decent Scorinator for rugby?

BoF Host Vote!

Apparently, fewer people were interested in voting for the BoF host...

There were only four votes, and... it's a draw.

Novapsolu: 2
Miceland: 2

I'll let Baz decide what happens next. Either we can hold a brief second round, or the voting period can be extended slightly.

Am I even an option in that?

Also, did I vote for WC38 host? I might have missed the post about it. -_-

Am I even an option in that?


Yes, you're an option. I included you in the TGs I sent to everyone.

WRONG

The Sox need to win to ensure the further demise of the NY Yankees.

and to let the REDSOX NATION rub it in their face for 86 years. :p:p:p

I hope something terrible happens to you.:(

Can I vote for myself?

:P

I hope something terrible happens to you.:(

RED SOX 13-1 Thru 5 innings....ENOUGH SAID.

Can I vote for myself?

:P

No! :p

Firstly... it's too late to put your hand up
Secondly... Your not on the exclusice EWWC membership list

RED SOX 13-1 Thru 5 innings....ENOUGH SAID.

Boo.

Come on Rockies! Senior Circuit all the way!

it's not just that it's the AL, it's that it's the freaking Red Sox. Boston needs to be stopped. If they win the series and the superbowl in the same year that will be brutal and if they somehow win those and the NBA championship it will be too much to take.

Boston is the single most annoying city on earth- and seeing as they're riding three former disgruntled Minnesota players in each sport, I take personal offense and thusly want the whole city to burn to the damn ground.

Boston is the single most annoying city on earth- and seeing as they're riding three former disgruntled Minnesota players in each sport, I take personal offense and thusly want the whole city to burn to the damn ground.

After like 500 years that construction project is almost complete.

RED SOX 13-1 Thru 5 innings....ENOUGH SAID.

I hold Johnny Damon responsible, he didn't curse you lot well enough.

it's not just that it's the AL, it's that it's the freaking Red Sox. Boston needs to be stopped. If they win the series and the superbowl in the same year that will be brutal and if they somehow win those and the NBA championship it will be too much to take.

Not to mention that Boston College is 8-0 and #2 in College Football.

GO BOSTON... DESTROY THE WORLD!!!

MUWAHAAAAAAAA!:D

I thought this was the WCDT... not an ASDT (American Sports Discussion Thread)

I thought this was the WCDT... not an ASDT (American Sports Discussion Thread)

Americans control the world! (or they think they do so).

I apologize for accidently hijacking the thread.

I want to apologise to everyone for my ongoing inability to fully participate in NSWC-related events, whether the WC, the CoH or - and here I'm getting slightly tangential - the Oxen cup.

This international moving lark is fairly disruptive, and I don't really have the time to write up posts at work the way I used to (me? do Nationstates at work? I deny it completely).

It'll have to wait until I get broadband at home - perhaps a couple of weeks away at least - before you hear from me properly again.

In the meantime, my one disappointment here is that my inability to RP consistently over the last few weeks seems to have seriously impacted the the Archregimancy and the Holy Empire. And not in a good way. I suppose that's life, and hopefully the monks in particular will start to climb up the rankings again once I can participate properly again - but I hope in the meantime you'll forgive me a minor twinge of regret at logging on and seeing how badly they've done without me.

Not to mention that Boston College is 8-0 and #2 in College Football.

GO BOSTON... DESTROY THE WORLD!!!

MUWAHAAAAAAAA!:D

Us Brits know the world will not be destroyed until Boston United win the Premier League.

Us Brits know the world will not be destroyed until Boston United win the Premier League.

That happened on Champ Manager once, melted my hard drive.

That happened on Champ Manager once, melted my hard drive.

Blue Screen of Smiting?

Reｇ,

No need to apologize. Your contributions are missed, but they're certainly not something you need to feel obligated to do. And hopefully you'll work their way back up soon enough. And AIF should still be pretty high I think. And remember if Oickoidia :confused: can qualify for a world cup the Monks should be fine. :D

If you haven't voted for the BoF host yet, last chance to do so (send me your vote by TG). The result will be announced tomorrow.

If you haven't voted for the CoH host yet, last chance to do so (send me your vote by TG). The result will be announced tomorrow.

That would be the BoF host vote and yes... If you haven't already please do so ASAP!

Was there no role play bonus in the Cup of Harmony or was Margeret just being a real bitch!!! Most of the top role players went out in the second round.

@ Boston fans..... the Bruins still suck though.... :p

Was there no role play bonus in the Cup of Harmony or was Margeret just being a real bitch!!! Most of the top role players went out in the second round.I would assume the latter.

That being said, Candelaria And Marquez...ouch.

In other (belated) news, this thread has returned to the first page of threads in the forum when sorted by number of replies. Sel Appa's post of the KPB rankings put it over the top.

Was there no role play bonus in the Cup of Harmony or was Margeret just being a real bitch!!! Most of the top role players went out in the second round.

Sorry it's Margeret's time of the month, oviously not enough sacrifices going her way

How soon is the BoF going to start? I'm anxious to start playing.

Was there no role play bonus in the Cup of Harmony or was Margeret just being a real bitch!!! Most of the top role players went out in the second round.

Jeru FC didn't have much of chance anyway, being ranked #70.

I don't know what I've done to deserve a quarter-final against Casari and a semi against either Minilla Island or Ulzaxid, i.e. a very clear run to the final... very little frankly.

Still, will boost my ranking enough that I might not perform shamefully on home soil in 38. :)

:p I dunno, but if you manage to gloat enough, hopefully you screw it up and give me your clear run through the semifinal.

How soon is the BoF going to start? I'm anxious to start playing.

The Answer is soon... The BoF host should be announced any moment and then we still have to wait until the CoH has finished... before the host can start.

How soon is the BoF going to start? I'm anxious to start playing.

In a few days.

The Answer is soon... The BoF host should be announced any moment and then we still have to wait until the CoH has finished... before the host can start.

In a few days.

Sweet! I already have a bit of an intriguing storyline bringing in as Head Coach a guy from a nation that hasn't participated since World Cup 29.

I'm even already looking forward to seeing the fun some of the RPers have with my name once groups are announced. ;)

Why does the BoF have to wait until the CoH is finished? It's not like the same teams are going to be in both.

I'm even already looking forward to seeing the fun some of the RPers have with my name once groups are announced. ;)Are you Schiavonia in disguise? :p

Why does the BoF have to wait until the CoH is finished? It's not like the same teams are going to be in both.

Okay, while it's not necessary for the CoH to finish it is most likely... considering that the BoF hosts hasn't been announced... That the BoF thread and Rosters need to be done.

The BoF group draw.... and not to mention the fact that a front-running candidate is controlled by the same person that is also running the CoH atm....
It's very likely.

And it'll take... even longer... if we can't write a sentance... without using... a bunch of ellipses. :p

But if you were nominated, you couldn't open a roster thread? :p Clearly the nomination should default to Legal.

Okay, while it's not necessary for the CoH to finish it is most likely... considering that the BoF hosts hasn't been announced... That the BoF thread and Rosters need to be done.

The BoF group draw.... and not to mention the fact that a front-running candidate is controlled by the same person that is also running the CoH atm....
It's very likely.

That should disqualify you. :p

Can't ... Resist... using... Ellispseses...


Anywhoo... the actual BoF won't start until after the CoH.,.. I was just pointing out various potential delaying actions...

Voting for the BoF is now closed. Here are the results.

Miceland: 7
Novapsolu: 5
Sel Appa: 1
Abstain: 1

Congratulations to Miceland!

Thanks Ariddia for looking after the vote and to all those that voted (yes, even that one abstention)

The BoF will properly get underway as soon after the CoH is completed.... Thread to come soon.

Well, I believe I speak for me when I groan and have to go to the bathroom.

Quite typically, this BoF has come on a weekend with me away from home, so I've baggsied my roster space (and crucially the colour purple - no, Kry, not mauve :p ) and will post my roster when I get home, around half ten tonight.

Meh, I was starting to consider pulling my bid anyway.

Can't wait for the WC to start, haven't done one of these things in a while. It's too bad I was too late on jumping into the BoF though.

So, looking at the results, I can't say I'm entirely disappointed (and not in a sour grapes sort of way). Congrats to Miceland, and best of luck to the debutant nations; here's my hope that some day, they'll be at a point to where they are happy to contribute to this august body, and eventually be running these tournaments as well. :)

I would like to take this moment to announce that Casari and I will be bidding to host Cup of Harmony 30! The bid will utilize a Swiss-system (or power paired) tournament, with the details to come at a point that actually makes sense :p

REDSOX= WORLD CHAMPS!

Now back to the thread.

REDSOX= WORLD CHAMPS!

Now back to the thread.

Yes, but now you're probably going to hire A-Rod and you'll have the bad luck!

REDSOX= WORLD CHAMPS!

Now back to the thread.

It was either watch MLB, or sit in the bar, with my mate, and drink, following going to Wembley to watch my beloved 'Fins lose :(

...back to the real football :p Go Bostopia! Woo!

REDSOX= WORLD CHAMPS!

Now back to the thread.

You know if the Cuba embargo wasn't in place, their baseball teams could compete with ours an legitimize the Worldness of it more. They did try to make it a world sport and expected France, UK, etc. to join. It really should be expanded to Cuba, Japan, and such.

Sorry Sorry...


Bos, what are you rooting for?

Roots, maybe.

Bos, what are you rooting for?

Morels. I hear that they're good, especially at this time of year when everyone's pondering the meaning of Christmas spirit.

***reads cue cards***

Oh, that's morals. Well anyway, morels are a bunch of incensed people who don't live long enough to make a difference.

Bos, what are you rooting for?

Well, seeing as I was getting back on-topic, it'd have to be my football team :p

You know if the Cuba embargo wasn't in place, their baseball teams could compete with ours an legitimize the Worldness of it more. They did try to make it a world sport and expected France, UK, etc. to join. It really should be expanded to Cuba, Japan, and such.

Sorry Sorry...


Bos, what are you rooting for?

Allow me to point out on behalf of our World Cup president that that word has a very, very different meaning in Australia.

And while usually one of the first to criticise baseball digressions on this thread, also allow me to point out that there already is a World Champion in baseball.

It's Japan, who defeated Cuba 10-6 in the final of the 2006 World Baseball Classic, a tournament in which the USA did even worse than their World Champonship basketball teams now do.

Don't worry, here in the UK we managed to get used to the feeling of losing sports we invented a long, long time ago.

While the Basketball team seems to be on the upswing, the fact remains that not winning World Championships in Baseball and Basketball indicates that the sport exists internationally to the point that we have competition.

I say you've arrived when you're not judging the success of a tournament by how much money it makes. Or how inept 75% of the teams in it are. *coughcricketcough*

Allow me to point out on behalf of our World Cup president that that word has a very, very different meaning in Australia.

And while usually one of the first to criticise baseball digressions on this thread, also allow me to point out that there already is a World Champion in baseball.

It's Japan, who defeated Cuba 10-6 in the final of the 2006 World Baseball Classic, a tournament in which the USA did even worse than their World Champonship basketball teams now do.

Don't worry, here in the UK we managed to get used to the feeling of losing sports we invented a long, long time ago.

Yeah, but that is national teams.

To Arch: Yes, Thank you for pointing that Arch, however as you know, context is very important, and in this context the Australian definition of "rooting" did not apply.

Baptism of Fire 25 - The Cup of Shapes and Colours

Group Draw and Fixtures Announced... along with the BoF Secret....

Cafundeu must be happy as a clam:

BRAZIL TO HOST 2014 WORLD CUP

Cafundeu must be happy as a clam:

BRAZIL TO HOST 2014 WORLD CUP

A clam sitting in an alcoholic cocktail? :p

And the Germans will host the feminine version in 2011.

Aye, it's amazing with all those countries in the running, like... um... like... well... hmm. Well, there you go. :p

Aye, it's amazing with all those countries in the running, like... um... like... well... hmm. Well, there you go. :p

Shame there isn't some way to juxtapose this hosting thing. It's smart that they're trashing this rotation thing, since if I'm not mistaken once every 24 years the hosting nominees would have been New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, and Fiji, but on the other hand, now it'll probably be 2230 before Africa hosts the WC again.

As far as I'm concerned the new compromise - countries from the last two continents to host are ineligible - is a good one.

I also think FIFA are running scared that SA 2010 and Brazil 2014 are going to be massive failures, along the lines of... we've not had a truly spectacular flop of a WC here or have we?

(I severely hope this isn't tempting fate for 38...)

Baptism of Fire 25 - The Cup of Shapes and Colours

Group Draw and Fixtures Announced... along with the BoF Secret....

What. The. Fuck?

Seriously Baz, what are you playing at?

EDIT:

For people not knowing why I'm filled with confusion, disbelief and a sense of dread, here's what I'm bothered by (Baz has used Starblaydia as an example, as I agreed with him over IRC):

The actually players however were taken a different route, they were asked to walk down this corridor, up ahead was the other side of the customs. However as each player walked through, they started to be transformed into something else. They turned into Starblaydi Purple Geometric Cylinders, almost as if a 3D training scene had been set up in Real Life.

Eventually all the team had been transformed and were waiting on the other side of customs with the support crew. This would happen with all the teams, they would be transfered in 3D geometric prisms of their group shape, Triangular prisms for Group Triangle, Cylinders for Group Circle and recangular prisms for Group Square. Despite in the height of each prism (Which corresponded to the height of each player) there was nothing at all that could visually seperate the players.

You see, I actually have character RPs planned and I'm not wanting to RP something like: A short block, who appeared to be Starblaydia's captain, had the ball bounced off his cylinder and it landed at the foot of the big cylinder, that was probably Hinkonnen. The ball stuck magically to the cylinder as the shape moved down the pitch, then the ball suddenly was shot into the opposing goal.

So, I say again: what are you playing at?

That probably amounts to RPing an opponent in a war without their permission, or along those lines… you don't touch others' characters without their blessings, that's a simple RP rule. Especially not something as crazy as this. Maybe Baz should ask the players to wear shape costumes instead. That might be a nice compromise. :p

With a conversation on IRC... We've made a compromise...

Instead of being geometical shapes, each player will find themselves in possesion of a "shape disc" A triangular, circular or Square shape in the colour listed in the OP of the BoF. The shape of the disc is dependent on the group.

No Pentagonal or Hexagonal shape discs? :)

The scary thing to FIFA was having to spend more than 12 years away from Europe, which will be a record already, sadly. It's frightening to the point of stupidity.

Instead of being geometical shapes, each player will find themselves in possesion of a "shape disc" A triangular, circular or Square shape in the colour listed in the OP of the BoF. The shape of the disc is dependent on the group.

For the love of God, nobody mention this to Sepp Blatter...

For the love of God, nobody mention this to Sepp Blatter...

I like this idea much more - makes the players who played in this BoF unique, bonded by a weird and mysterious gift.

I'm not a competitor in this one (I was in the last wacky one :p), but I think this has gone from one of the worst twists I've ever seen in NS sports RP to... what could be a very good one!

Erm, thanks for that :eek:

Every day's a school day, no?

The scary thing to FIFA was having to spend more than 12 years away from Europe...

$1000 to the correct answer as to why they scrapped the rotation idea.

Paid for by the Committee to Ensure Every Other World Cup is in Europe.

Still, C&M played a whole Baptism of Fire game based around the players' abilities in the field of voice recognition, so... :DAs opposed to Starblaydia's three blindfolded world cup games? :p

As opposed to Starblaydia's three blindfolded world cup games? :p

Three what now?

I don't see any problem with rotation. All areas should get a chance for their economies to be boosted. Africa could really use this so they might actually get a team deep.

World Cup 33: the Archregimancy's plotline went out of control when Errinundera and Schiavonia copied it and RPed Starblaydia as doing likewise.
Inspired by the generosity of Schiavonia in playing blindfolded against the Archregimancy the other teams in Group H of World Cup 33, Errinundera and Starblaydia, agreed to play their match blindfolded as well.
After a friendly agreement between the teams of Group H that all teams would play blindfolded during group play, Schiavonia's guiding from behind the goal tactic that worked so well against the Archregimancy tore Starblaydia to shreds last night.
Etc.

Ah, I'd stopped RPing by WC33

I don't see any problem with rotation. All areas should get a chance for their economies to be boosted. Africa could really use this so they might actually get a team deep.
Problem is there are about 12 countries in Europe that could right now host a World Cup and maybe another dozen that could with a couple of years lead in time. There are 2 in North America, 2 in South America, 1 in Africa, 1 in Oceania and 3 in Asia who are all crap at world level. And Mexico's had it twice already.

Problem is there are about 12 countries in Europe that could right now host a World Cup and maybe another dozen that could with a couple of years lead in time. There are 2 in North America, 2 in South America, 1 in Africa, 1 in Oceania and 3 in Asia who are all crap at world level. And Mexico's had it twice already.

But by hosting a Cup, the African teams will get more publicity and more morale to do better. They get more money to put out better teams.

Yes, and it's convenient to get to from Europe and works with European time. The problem is that temperatures might be soaringly hot in parts and there's probably better things to spend money on in much of Africa. Like clean water. I know some Brazilians who don't want the World Cup cos the money will go into the wrong pockets and they think the Govt should be clearing favelas and whatnot.

Yes, and it's convenient to get to from Europe and works with European time. The problem is that temperatures might be soaringly hot in parts and there's probably better things to spend money on in much of Africa. Like clean water. I know some Brazilians who don't want the World Cup cos the money will go into the wrong pockets and they think the Govt should be clearing favelas and whatnot.

What about the local small businesses that people will buy from?

(and crucially the colour purple - no, Kry, not mauve :p )

Meh. You lot play in white anyway, you're not worthy of nice regal purple :p

Meh, the Euros in FIFA are always going to support other Euros. That's how it works.

Meh, the Euros in FIFA are always going to support other Euros. That's how it works.

Unless it's England. Nobody in Europe likes us, but then we have Oceania in our pocket, and probably Africa too.

God bless the "pink bits".

Yes, and it's convenient to get to from Europe and works with European time. The problem is that temperatures might be soaringly hot in parts and there's probably better things to spend money on in much of Africa. Like clean water. I know some Brazilians who don't want the World Cup cos the money will go into the wrong pockets and they think the Govt should be clearing favelas and whatnot.

They've got the right idea with this "if you've had it in the last eight years, your continent is out" thing, but what I don't understand is why ever since 2002 FIFA has been swearing over its mother's metaphorical grave to never have a double-host WC again. It worked well in Korea/Japan, it's worked well with UEFA repeatedly, and if I'm not mistaken there's some online game where they use it well too, what's it called... what's it called... ::D

Anyway, if, say, Argentina were to host the WC, they'd have quite the time of it by themselves - but if they were sharing it with Brazil, or Uruguay, or even Paraguay (some poverty issues to work out there, but whatevs), it would work a thousand times better. IMHO.

Arg/Brazil would not work. WAAAY too much travelling distance. Arg/Uruguay has potential, but the ASrgentines are more than capable of doing it solo.

Dual bids (in RL) should be approached with caution. Euro 2008 will be fine, but I have serious misgivings about Euro 2012.

Dual bids (in RL) should be approached with caution. Euro 2008 will be fine, but I have serious misgivings about Euro 2012.

Well there's the problem, isn't it. Neither Poland or Ukraine could ever pull off a European Championship alone, but I rather see them get a chance than just have it on a twenty year England France Germany Italy Spain rotation. I mean look at how much it helped Portugal. And shit, they pulled that off themselves. I couldn't believe it.

Well there's the problem, isn't it. Neither Poland or Ukraine could ever pull off a European Championship alone, but I rather see them get a chance than just have it on a twenty year England France Germany Italy Spain rotation. I mean look at how much it helped Portugal. And shit, they pulled that off themselves. I couldn't believe it.

6-8 stadia and a decent infrastructure should do it. Romania, Serbia, Greece, Norway, Finland, Turkey...all are capable, it's just a case of wanting to bid.

Hell, Scotland could probably do it on their own if they wanted.

6-8 stadia and a decent infrastructure should do it. Romania, Serbia, Greece, Norway, Finland, Turkey...all are capable, it's just a case of wanting to bid.

Hell, Scotland could probably do it on their own if they wanted.

I guess I'm just not as picky. Between Poland and Ukraine they've got at least 6 workable stadia, and their infrastructures are totally no worse than Romania's.

Scotland could throw a fantastic Euro. They'd never get it though - too close to England, and we all know that a referee is not a referee unless he flashes at least 871 yellows a game. The English, as the enlightened Spaniard/Italian knows, have yet to master this art.

and we all know that a referee is not a referee unless he flashes at least 871 yellows a game. The English, as the enlightened Spaniard/Italian knows, have yet to master this art.

When the English and Scottish Premier Leagues incorporate as much elbowing, diving, professional fouling and general all-around cheating as the other major European leagues, I'm sure the card count will reach it's proper tally.

When the English and Scottish Premier Leagues incorporate as much elbowing, diving, professional fouling and general all-around cheating as the other major European leagues, I'm sure the card count will reach it's proper tally.

Indeed it will. And not a moment too soon either. Everyone knows that Germany 2006's goal tally was SOOOO much higher than other World Cups because the referees had their act together and were cautioning players for so much as uttering a word. God I love FIFA and their brilliant logic.

Hence another one of my beliefs- Massive international organizations that are secretly all about the money and are openly all about blatant favoritism will never do anything good for any sport, anywhere, anyplace.

Hence another one of my beliefs- Massive international organizations that are secretly all about the money and are openly all about blatant favoritism will never do anything good for any sport, anywhere, anyplace.

Says the CoH winner :p
Congrats BTW

The Only countries I can forseeably see hosting a World Cup by themselves are the following:

Definitely Solo:
USA
Mexico
Brazil
England
France
Germany
Italy
Argentina
South Africa
Australia
China
India
Russia
Spain

Possibly Solo:
Canada
Saudi Arabia
Poland
Indonesia
Romania
Turkey
Egypt
Kazakhstan
Ukraine

Probably have to host with other countries
Japan/S. Korea
N. Korea/S. Korea (fat chance of this happening)
Portugal/Spain
Ukraine/Poland
Switzerland/Austria
Croatia/Serbia
Czech Republic/Slovakia
Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia
Any 2 of these 4: Sweden/Norway/Finland/Denmark
Any 3 of the Central American/Caribbean Countries
Peru/Bolivia (fat chance of this happening)
Chile/Argentina
Venezeula/Columbia
Uruguay/Paraguay
Any 3 of the Middle East Countries, except for Saudi Arabia
Any 2 of the following: Thailand/Vietnam/Laos/Malaysia/Myanmar
New Zealand/Australia

Other than this list, it's very doubtful that a World Cup would ever be voted to be held in any other country.

Just counting the definitely able to host by themselves we have only 14 countries, including those that could probably host by themselves the number goes up to 23.

Let's face it, after 2014, the chance of the WC occuring outside of Europe is about as likely as lightning striking the same spot thrice. It was all done so England could get there bid and to totally screw over CONCACAF. This decision is a major blow to the progress the beautiful game has been making here, as either Mexico or America would of (and still a slim chance of doing so) hosting an excellent World Cup. Though I do agree that if the gem ever makes it back Stateside, it needs to be less spread out, as the traveling can become expensive and troublesome. ex: keep it in the central and eastern part of the country

Hehe, thanks Jer, I suppose they're never as bad when they kick something in your direction. :p

It's hard to say what nations could and what couldn't without seeing any details. Politics are a big part of it, you know.

I dunno if holding it in one part of the country is the answer, but for one that's so full of serviceable stadia, it would do well to regionalize the competition so travel wouldn't be required until late, at least the Quarterfinals.

And, just for the curious, hitting people when they're not looking is the Casaran martial art.

Let's face it, after 2014, the chance of the WC occuring outside of Europe is about as likely as lightning striking the same spot thrice. It was all done so England could get there bid and to totally screw over CONCACAF.

So you're saying it's more fair for the WC to go to the States or Mexico in 2018 than to England, even Mexico's had it twice and the US once since England last did?

So you're saying it's more fair for the WC to go to the States or Mexico in 2018 than to England, even Mexico's had it twice and the US once since England last did?

Yeah but Europe is no bigger than America and Mexico combined. France, England, Germany et. al are all basically states of the EU anyways. So the United states of Europe have had way more cups than the United States of America.

France, England, Germany et. al are all basically states of the EU anyways. So the United states of Europe have had way more cups than the United States of America.

I've heard this several times, and it's starting to annoy me. The UK, Germany, France, Lithuania, Slovakia and all the 27 members of the EU are independent sovereign countries, with vastly different political systems, cultures, traditions and histories. Not to mention a sense of national independence to match the reality.

There are no "United States of Europe".

Besides, Germany is a federation, just as the US is. You can compare Schleswig-Holstein to Maryland, or Germany to the United States, but you can't compare Germany to Maryland. That makes no sense.

While we're on the topic of multi-hosting major international tournaments, how about this year's Asian Cup, eh? Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia in a four-way hosting event. Now that might work for the World Cup, since the four countries are all relatively close to each other too. It'd only screw Asia's qualifying over. :D

It's no more "fair" for any country to host, seeing as it's not a bloody lottery or somethimg. If you want fair, last time we had the MLS forced on us as a condition of hosting, and that was by no means fair. :p

It's no more "fair" for any country to host, seeing as it's not a bloody lottery or somethimg. If you want fair, last time we had the MLS forced on us as a condition of hosting, and that was by no means fair. :p

And to make things worse, the US has to put up with Beckham-mania now! Though the good news is TFC rock :p

I've heard this several times, and it's starting to annoy me. The UK, Germany, France, Lithuania, Slovakia and all the 27 members of the EU are independent sovereign countries, with vastly different political systems, cultures, traditions and histories. Not to mention a sense of national independence to match the reality.

There are no "United States of Europe".
Yes. There's more difference between England and France than there is between Newfoundland and California. Dammit, there's more difference between Birmingham and Wolverhampton than between Newfoundland and California.

So you're saying it's more fair for the WC to go to the States or Mexico in 2018 than to England, even Mexico's had it twice and the US once since England last did?

Or, indeed, more fair than it going to Australia, which has never hosted the tournament?

Or, indeed, more fair than it going to Australia, which has never hosted the tournament?

Or more the fact, FIFA has been trying to make life for Australia as hard as possible. They did their best to stop Australia qualifying to favour the South Americans in 2006.

England had their chance for the 2006 World Cup but failed to win the bid. It was their designated WC to bid on and the failed to win it. Now that is was our designated time to bid, we get the bid swiped away from under our feet, how is that fair?

Or more the fact, FIFA has been trying to make life for Australia as hard as possible. They did their best to stop Australia qualifying to favour the South Americans in 2006.

Is that what the move was all about?

Is that what the move was all about?

Yeah, you get sick of playing Uruguay for the Nth time! :p

Yes. There's more difference between England and France than there is between Newfoundland and California. Dammit, there's more difference between Birmingham and Wolverhampton than between Newfoundland and California.

I'd like to point out that people from Coventry are not Brummies, either. They speak with funny accents, we don't.

ESF: So, the USA (which has a small 'soccer' liking population) hosting two World Cups within 14 years is fair, when the country which pretty much invented the game hasn't had a World Cup since 1966? And don't even say the phrase "Euro 96" or any other phrase which references or means the Euro 96 tournament, blatently or not, because, sir, how many times has the United States of America (ie: the country you're whinging about losing it's 'designated time to bid') hosted the equivalent of the European Football Championships: the CONCACAF Gold Cup?

And anyway, the USA could still win the bid in 2018, so quit yer whinging til October 2011 when FIFA make a decision, and football comes home, a'ight?

when FIFA make a decision

That is one of the many British/American English differences that I find quite interesting. Americans would say "when FIFA makes a decision".

Someone call the waambulance, because it's not bloody fair!

Please. This is ridiculous. The rotational structure served it's purpose- forcing a World Cup to happen in Africa. Yay, done. Now let's go back to what's really important- making FIFA money even though they're a group of insufferable cocks.

You know, the ones that crow at sunrise.

, how many times has the United States of America (ie: the country you're whinging about losing it's 'designated time to bid') hosted the equivalent of the European Football Championships: the CONCACAF Gold Cup?


Is this a serious question or a saracstic one?

Either way the answer is EVERY ONE.

And to agree w/ Cas, FIFA is now just as bad or worse than the IOC. (at least the IOC tries to keep from going to the same continent every 8 years. And don't start on the Winter Games, beacuse there is only about 10-15 countries that could even host it at all.)

Ouch. Star didn't exactly get a warm welcome back present in their BoF opener. :eek:

Ouch. Star didn't exactly get a warm welcome back present in their BoF opener. :eek:

Rankings don't discriminate!
If you're near the bottom, don't expect a lot of wins.

:p

Ouch. Star didn't exactly get a warm welcome back present in their BoF opener. :eek:

As much as the BoF should be "RP = teh win", there's no accounting for randomness. The bastard.

Don't worry, you'll probably get a 5-1 over a top 20 side in your first qualifying run just like your original debut :p

Regarding the RL 2018 hosting debate, I have far less faith in England's ability to host the tournament than most (and I'm from England), but believe that the World Cup would be better for the country than the Olympics, which will be an unmitigated disaster.

I believe the World Cup should go to countries that can competently host the tournament, while ensuring there is by no means a monopoly on it. Simple fact is, Europe has countries more prepared for a WC than any, for the simple reason that it is the richest part of the world where association football is the predominant sport, and as such has unrivalled quantity and quality of stadia because the club teams use them.

I think the new compromise of two Cups between federations hosting will work. Admittedly it probably will mean 'a European host every 12 years', but that still leaves two in every three elsewhere. I'd reckon upon an Aussie-American shootout for 2022.

Not quite unrelatedly, K-P-V plans will be expanded in the next few days, including information on stadia and other IC gravy.

Oi!

I'm just hoping I can get Star back before he builds his rank up again :P

Is this a serious question or a saracstic one?

Either way the answer is EVERY ONE.

And to agree w/ Cas, FIFA is now just as bad or worse than the IOC. (at least the IOC tries to keep from going to the same continent every 8 years. And don't start on the Winter Games, beacuse there is only about 10-15 countries that could even host it at all.)

Jamaica?

KINGSTON2018 FTW

BoF Matchday 1:
Merovis 3-2 Starblaydia

BoF Matchday 2:
Starblaydia 2-1 Merovis

Methinks Baz is going wrong somewhere, as MD2 should be Starblaydia Vs Bumiroar, not Bumiroar vs Mallatarsland as has been posted. The other four teams played someone different on Md2 while Merovs and myself got paired together again. MD2 for group Circle appeared to be correct (at least I think I played the right team before the post was edited) the first time... what is going on with your scorinator?

Is it too late to change hosts yet? :p :D

BoF Matchday 1:
Merovis 3-2 Starblaydia

BoF Matchday 2:
Starblaydia 2-1 Merovis

Methinks Baz is going wrong somewhere, as MD2 should be Starblaydia Vs Bumiroar, not Bumiroar vs Mallatarsland as has been posted. The other four teams played someone different on Md2 while Merovs and myself got paired together again. MD2 for group Circle appeared to be correct (at least I think I played the right team before the post was edited) the first time... what is going on with your scorinator?

My apologies Star and all other BoFites....

I made a critical error in the NSFS Input file... resulting in the randomisation of the fixtures for MD1

Here are the fixtures NSFS created for MD1 for each group

Group Triangle

3-2
1-6
4-5

Group Circle

1-6
2-4
5-3

Group Square
6-2
5-1
4-3

I'm currently in the process of altering the fixtures and re-scorinating MD2

My apologies Star and all other BoFites....

I made a critical error in the NSFS Input file... resulting in the randomisation of the fixtures for MD1

Here are the fixtures NSFS created for MD1 for each group

Group Triangle

3-2
1-6
4-5

Group Circle

1-6
2-4
5-3

Group Square
6-2
5-1
4-3

I'm currently in the process of altering the fixtures and re-scorinating MD2
New Fixtures from MD2 onwards
Group Triangle

MD2:
1 vs. 2
3 vs. 4
5 vs. 6

MD3:
3 vs. 1
2 vs. 5
4 vs. 6

MD4:
1 vs. 4
6 vs. 2
5 vs. 3

MD5:
1 vs. 5
2 vs. 4
3 vs. 6


Group Circle

MD2:
1 vs. 2
3 vs. 4
5 vs. 6

MD3:
4 vs. 1
5 vs. 2
3 vs. 6

MD4:
5 vs. 1
3 vs. 2
6 vs. 4

MD5:
1 vs. 3
4 vs. 5
2 vs. 6


Group Square

MD2:
1 vs. 2
6 vs. 4
3 vs. 5

MD3:
3 vs. 1
5 vs. 6
4 vs. 2

MD4:
5 vs. 4
3 vs. 2
6 vs. 1

MD5:
1 vs. 4
2 vs. 5
3 vs. 6

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13188013&postcount=47

For interest only:

The IFA of Daehanjeiguk invites all Oriental nations to attend and compete in the OFC while we wait for the BoF to end and the WC proper to begin; this is my only invitation in this post for the second edition, so the link is here for your future reference (as if any one needs a reference anyway):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540517

Speaking of the World Cup, someone in the KPV management team must love Koreans :D.

For interest only:

The IFA of Daehanjeiguk invites all Oriental nations to attend and compete in the OFC while we wait for the BoF to end and the WC proper to begin; this is my only invitation in this post for the second edition, so the link is here for your future reference (as if any one needs a reference anyway):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540517

Did the Oxen CUP ever happen? Wait, is Qaz even here?

Did the Oxen CUP ever happen? Wait, is Qaz even here?

Yes, you're talking to the winner of the Oxen Cup 4! :p
You didn't make the top 4 either.

Speaking of the World Cup, someone in the KPV management team must love Koreans :D.

That was me designing the stadia in a management game while 'managing' Chunnam Dragons :p

Yes, you're talking to the winner of the Oxen Cup 4! :p
You didn't make the top 4 either.

Hmm, I must've missed it.

Did the Oxen CUP ever happen? Wait, is Qaz even here?

Yes: thread was here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13144612#post13144612

I started it on the 23rd and it ended on the 30th.

this post here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13151929&postcount=6 told everyone when it was going to start.

Sorry you and 6 others missed it.

The OFC is now officially closed. A reminder to those teams who have not already done so to please post rosters.

Dear Officials,

My colleague has sent a correspondence to me requesting for information on the world cup and how to enter. If you would be so kind and forward it to the correct department I would very grateful.




13 Wateredge Lane
Borough of Whitesea
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+48 (0)1 4240 5300

Dear Sir/Madam,

As the minister for society I feel that our nation could do well to enter a major sporting event so our players and sportmen can partake in activities on the world stage. Could you tell me how this can be done and how to apply plus any relevant contacts I would neeed to make. What exactly is the organisation called and who manages it.

Yours Faithfully,
Rt. Hon. Clive Dive MPP

While I am by no means an official, the World Cup signup thread is located at:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538995

Anyone have the KPBs?

Not the post WC/CoH, pre BoF ones

but 'mose well wait for the post BoF

Not the post WC/CoH, pre BoF ones

but 'mose well wait for the post BoF

Oh...

Just a game of recent interest!

Liverpool 1 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 2 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 3 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 4 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 5 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 6 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 7 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 8 - 0 Besiktas

Besiktas played real well!

Just a game of recent interest!

Liverpool 1 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 2 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 3 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 4 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 5 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 6 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 7 - 0 Besiktas
Liverpool 8 - 0 Besiktas

Besiktas played real well!

Oh how I've been waiting for something like this. What's that? Only won by 7?

Oh how I've been waiting for something like this. What's that? Only won by 7?

Err, 8-0 ... think about it.

Nice to see you were saving something with those ties against Blackburn and Arsenal... the loss against Besiktas ... the tie with Spurs... the loss to Marseille... ties to Birmingham, Porto, and Portsmouth... but hey, I'm sure Reading, Wigan, Everton, and Cardiff were all quality wins.

I'm sure you're first in your group with that win though! Oh, wait... well... if you beat Porto, I'm sure you'll be... second... hmm...

But hey, you have Fulham and Newcastle! Those should be good matches... and if you win both... and everyone else loses, of course... you might be first! :) That's something to look forward to. Only Arsenal... ManU... Man City... Chelsea... Portsmouth... hmm... Blackburn? Hmm, that must be a typo. Anyway, only a third of the teams to pass! Then you'll be on top! :p

Blabber... blabber... blabber...

Blabber... blabber...

Blabber... blabber... blabber...

Then you'll be on top! :p

Yay! :D

Oooh, that's what it's like to be a Liverpool fan.

I'm used to extreme pain and discontent over the team's inadequacies in my fan experience- but hey, being horribly deluded works too. :)

Actually Cas that's not the best way but the ONLY way. That's how you deal with pain by having deluded thoughts about next year.

*Starts imagining the city parade after the Chicago Cubs win the 2008 World Series*

Err, 8-0 ... think about it.

Lucky win if you ask me!!

Err, 8-0 ... think about it.

Tut, I was having a poke at the Arsenal fans ... think about it :p

I thought you dealt with the pain by blaming someone on the other team. Then again, you have to realize the collapse is coming with this philosophy- because it is, you know.

ties to Birmingham...

:upyours::gundge::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5::mp5:

I'm trying to forget that.

Some of us were at that game, cos we're actual proper supporters with things like season tickets to see an actual team actually playing, rather than watching it on the telly and wondering when Jimmy Case is going to come on.

Some of us aren't real fans and don't go crashing into the bars after their favorite team, starting to wreck the place with two nude girls (or guys - what is your forte) by ours sides, a fire extinguisher at hand, and a rattlesnake wrapped our necks.

*Starts imagining the city parade after the Chicago Cubs win the 2008 World Series*


Can I have some of whatever it is that you are smoking?? ;)

Besides everyone knows that the 7th sign of the Apocalypse is the Cubs winning another World Series, It's right after Pres. Bush invading Iraq!

Can I have some of whatever it is that you are smoking??

I want some of whatever it is Daehan is smoking. Boy's gone and lost his damn mind.

I want some of whatever it is Daehan is smoking. Boy's gone and lost his damn mind.

Forget what he's smoking, I'd rather have the two naked girls.

Can I have some of whatever it is that you are smoking?? ;)

Besides everyone knows that the 7th sign of the Apocalypse is the Cubs winning another World Series, It's right after Pres. Bush invading Iraq!

I'm pretty sure that it's the USA winning the World Cup, particularly if it's in Europe, not the Cubs :p

Forget what he's smoking, I'd rather have the two naked girls.

Can I have what he's smoking and the naked girls?

And the winner of the Totally-Random-and-Awesomeness Award goes to... Daehanjeiguk!

Me standing in front of pink elephants and purple leopards dancing in blue tutus with orange hippos:

Wow, this is such a great honor! But seriously, I think the awards need to be moved out of Africa, so that some other continent can have the honors, because this is kind of a lurid landscape. Maybe Europe would do fine. And what about them Cubs? They've been winning the World Series for 7 years running and no one seems to be even close. Not to mention that President Bush III decided to invade just seven years ago, and the Ayatollah decided to launch his nukes at Questers, heaven knows why. I guess I just have to thank that one night I got stuck in Liverpool and the riots ran rampant when the USA beat England in the final match, so I was stuck in the bars with those two ladies, Jamie and Tammie. Oh, and my lovely snake Lucy. I mean, we had a fun time. But then some where along the line we had a fire, so the club had to be evacuated. But I was so heroic and quelled the flames with my handy-dandy pocket-sized fire extinguisher. Of course, it was only one joint... But after the club, Tammie and I had a fun time, so I'd also like to thank my son, Joey. He's been a wonderful example of random.

Speaking of random, just last night, Yvonne was great. I recommend her to any new clients - just fantastic! And Jack. Jack. If you ever had a guy in your life, Jack would be him. Jack and Yvonne! Get together! Right now! Yes! Yes! Yes! - Oh... not that now.

But anyway, thanks again to everyone. You're so wonderful! Oh, and about random stuff too, there's someone in Bazalonia who's not going to be too happy about last night. Let's just say that Jimmy was a little too happy. Anyway, it's great to see you guys. You have a great evening, and thanks again for the reward. It's going right in my mom's house, next to the bald man's ass. Good night!

ooc: the author of the preceding statement has absolutely responsibility if the preceding statement is misinterpreted by lowly non-random folk.

A link just for you Deahanjeiguk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-HJS1X8bNc

Daehanjeiguk, is that a preview of your RPs for the World Cup 38? :p
Bring it on!

Oh, the Han is going to be one to watch in 38!

Speaking of which, there is an unofficial cut-off at 86 signups (12 groups of 7 plus the hosts). If we get to 92 (10 groups of 9 plus the hosts) we'll end up doing that, and a final cut-off if required will be at 98 (12 groups of 8 plus the hosts, our preferred route all along as stated in the K-P-V bid thread).

We still have to check for ceased nations; at present we have 87 signups, with Magnus Valerius the first alternate.

I'm pretty sure that it's the USA winning the World Cup, particularly if it's in Europe, not the Cubs :p

Nonsense.

The final sign of the Apocalypse would be either of the Dreamed Realm nations getting past the quarterfinals of the World Cup.

Sez so right here in my "Monastic Handbook to Byzantine Orthodox Eschatology"

Nonsense.

The final sign of the Apocalypse would be either of the Dreamed Realm nations getting past the quarterfinals of the World Cup.

Sez so right here in my "Monastic Handbook to Byzantine Orthodox Eschatology"

That and Qazox advancing past the 1st round.

Oh no, that's just the both of you being rather selfish. :p You can never declare anything involving yourself as a sign of the apocolypse- unless it's something you'd hate, of course, and I doubt both of you would despise progressing further in the competition. =p

I think I'm back on line a little more regularly now.

Just in time, too.

Prepare for an Archregimancy team custom-designed for spectacular humility-building non-qualification, replete with such players as Fr. Joshua the Lazy, Fr. Pyotr the Ungreat, Fr. Igor the Hunchbacked, Fr. Irenaeus Who Ate All the Pies and Fr. Andreas the Winsome....

Not sure about the Holy Empire. My last RP'ing gambit there failed when RL meant I couldn't sustain it. Maybe they'll just field an ordinary football team. Novel concept, that....

In other news in this random timeline, Casari was gobbled up by peacekeeping turkeys ahead of the well-famed Turkey Day celebrations in Qazox. It was a stark reminder of the last World Cup when both Qazox and the Holy Empire faced off in the World Cup final - strangely occuring at the same time when the USA was battling the USA and England in the World Cup Final. Heaven knows what's going on; maybe the vested monks of the Archregimancy, who excommunicated their football team after having reached the Semifinals (falling out to the Holy Empire), can explain all of the chaos that is going on at the moment. But of course, we got an explanation from this bum off the streets of Casari, before it was gobbled up by the turkeys:

"AHHHH, THE HANS ARE COMING! THE HANS ARE COMING! MY GOD, THEY'VE BLOWN EVERYTHING UP! THE HANS ARE COMING!"

Well, there you have it. The Hans are coming... whatever that means. Hopefully has nothing to do with their present problems with terrorists and turkeys. In any case, stay tuned for advertisements, after these massages by Jamie and Tammie.

Ooh...ahh...ooh...ouch. Since when did Tammie have claws of a crab? And tentacles of a squid? And tongues of a monstrous monkey? AHHHHH SHE'S EATING MY LEG! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And back to your regular NS World Cup trivialities...

Yeah, that's bloody likely. :p

Yeah, that's bloody likely. :p

Nope, just likely to be bloody. :P

Han has lost his mind. here's the proof:

A Qazox-and the Holy Empire WC Final?

What else happened in that alternate dimension?
A Atlanta Hawks-Los Angeles Clipps NBA final?
A Chicago Blackhawks-Florida Panthers Stanley Cup final?
A Cleveland Browns-Arizona Cardinals Super Bowl?
A Tampa Bay Rays (yes they are just the rays now)-Washington Nationals World Series?
A Red Bull New York-Real Salt Lake MLS CUP final?

BTW turkey-day ISN'T celebrated in Qazox.

*sighs* There's a reason why I'm calling this randomness. This is the most unsophisticated bunch of football junkies.

BTW, I hope that no one is offended I spend the night with two ladies. I'd think that at least I'm consistent, and they're the same two ladies (except one has the weird anatomy...don't know if she's a lady or a weird fish).

I'd support less randomness, more ninjas.

*sighs* There's a reason why I'm calling this randomness. This is the most unsophisticated bunch of football junkies.

BTW, I hope that no one is offended I spend the night with two ladies. I'd think that at least I'm consistent, and they're the same two ladies (except one has the weird anatomy...don't know if she's a lady or a weird fish).

Considering what we talk about on IRC - and what videos we're made aware of *shudder* (especially the one Oli's keen on :p) - what you're doing is pretty tame :D

Considering what we talk about on IRC - and what videos we're made aware of *shudder* (especially the one Oli's keen on :p) - what you're doing is pretty tame :D

So many hamsters...so naked...

*shudders*

We still have to check for ceased nations; at present we have 87 signups, with Magnus Valerius the first alternate.

As far as I can tell, while searching for Ikoville as part of my BoF RP, they don't exist. Looks like MV is in.

So many hamsters...so naked...

*shudders*

Sad but true:

Sep 02 00:41:18 <Konora> The day I wear pants while on IRC is the day you can have a reason why I'm leaving. =p

*streches* Quite true. :p

So many hamsters...so naked...

*shudders*

* Gets worried about Oli *

* Gets worried about Oli *

Sorry, the Dallases don't get me excited...

Sorry, the Dallases don't get me excited...

Not furry enough? :p

Not furry enough? :p

Well, not really, as girls tend to shave here (I'm not living in France, dammit) :p

Sorry, the Dallases don't get me excited...


How about the unauthorised Errinundera-published nude Orthodox 'Hunky Monks' calendar, featuring former Archregimancy goalkeeper and new national team coach Fr. David of the Woods pictured 'as God and nature intended'.

Crap... it looks like I might miss the cup for WC38... :(

If I can't be in it, could I RP some friendly or guest matches to get back into RPing for the World Cup?

Either that, or get someone to sign up...

If I signed up a puppet to even the teams out to 88, could I still make it? :)

Crap... it looks like I might miss the cup for WC38... :(

If I can't be in it, could I RP some friendly or guest matches to get back into RPing for the World Cup?

Either that, or get someone to sign up...

If I signed up a puppet to even the teams out to 88, could I still make it? :)

I don't see any problem but it's up to the NSWC folks and hosts I guess.

We've got one near-confirmed cease-to-exist, and more to check, so you're almost certainly going to be in :)

Though the concept of friendlies to get back into the swing of things is a good one.

88 wouldn't solve the problem any, 86 isn't evenly divisble by anything other than 2. The next 'useful' number is 92 (10 groups of 9).

Do you need puppets sign uppage because I still have Collonie in the back pocket and I"m sure there are more.

I could Sign-up Sativaville if needed, although i still can't login as them or RP w/them. But it would flesh out the WC.

We still have to do the cease-check, and that may create holes that you may wish to fill if nobody else will.

Crap... it looks like I might miss the cup for WC38... :(

If I can't be in it, could I RP some friendly or guest matches to get back into RPing for the World Cup?

Either that, or get someone to sign up...

If I signed up a puppet to even the teams out to 88, could I still make it? :)
You could gatecrash the WC anyway, turn up at random matches and challenge teams straight after their WC games or something.

...or with Jey's confusing-as-hell withdrawal, you're in anyway. :)

With Jey out of WC38, it leaves Jeruselem and Jeru FC as the only teams starting with J! :D

Absolutely shambolic. If you really had an argument, Jey, you'd have brought it up earlier and not after you were beaten in the bloody semi-final. I can't believe I'm saying this, man, but, grow up.

Absolutely shambolic. If you really had an argument, Jey, you'd have brought it up earlier and not after you were beaten in the bloody semi-final. I can't believe I'm saying this, man, but, grow up.

Jeruselem have lost that many times to Star ... I'm used to it. But recently, I've had better luck (probably because I'm ranked above him).

Absolutely shambolic. If you really had an argument, Jey, you'd have brought it up earlier and not after you were beaten in the bloody semi-final. I can't believe I'm saying this, man, but, grow up.

DAMN. (http://i2.bebo.com/023b/8/mediuml/2007/07/18/21/4428327318a5015693358ml.jpg)

Jey is an idiot. He wants to violate the same "rule" he claims Star violated, which doesn't even exist.

(Cross-posted from the Signup Thread, in hopes of moving the discussion here)

OOC: The idea behind the IC dropout is that Starblaydia hopped around the usual rules through technicalities and minor legalities--that there's no real point for such an experienced team to sweep through the BoF. In the IC TSS Team, this won't be tolerated, and justice should be served for the rule violation. The entire team is about to be expelled (yes, I know that Universitus is pretty crazy, but what ya gonna do?) so I'm not sure who would play in the real WC in their place.



Also OOC: Well that's sorta the point--if Starblaydia is allowed preferential treatment, everyone should get a chance to slip by the rules.

Returning to the point of this thread....

OOC: I'm not sure if you know where the World Cup Discussion Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536285) is, so I'll just place this here (and cross-post it in the DT, if you wish to reply)

Anyways,

Allow me to enlighten you on the rules regarding who is eligible for the Baptism of Fire: officially, the host of the competition (Miceland in this case, who happens to be a puppet of WCC President Bazalonia) has discretion, though with the understanding that only teams with a KPB of 0 (meaning that they have not competed in a World Cup-related competition in the last three cup cycles), as well as having never previously competed in a BoF, can enter.

Under these rules, Starblaydia, who has been absent from the NS footballing community for multiple cycles (and never took part in the BoF back when they first entered the World Cup ), was perfectly acceptable as a competitor in the BoF (as was, I must add, Spaam, under the same rules). No technicalities, no mumbo jumbo, and, I must add, little to no objections when both initially inquired as to their eligibility before the tournament. They have just as much of a right to play in the BoF as you did.

Furthermore, to see you wait until the tournament is nearly completed, and after you lost to Starblaydia calls the true reason of your griping into question. Frankly, whether you meant this ICly or OOCly, you've come off as whiny and immature, both items we would not expect from someone with considerable experience in other NS play.

When LE is telling you to man up, you have a problem.

When LE is telling you to man up, you have a problem.

QFT

Geesh. Jey, you shouldn't be the one complaining, you weren't the higher seed against Star that got beat 4-0, that would be me. :mad:

Sure, I wasn't thrilled that Star was allowed to take part in the BoF since not including them and Spaam would have given us a nice, neat 16-team field of truly new teams. However, I also knew from looking at the WC page on NS Wiki that there was precedent for returning nations that hadn't participated in the BoF before being allowed to participate, so I knew I didn't have a leg to stand on in protesting their inclusion, so I was smart enough to keep my mouth shut about it.

Seriously, Jey. Grow. Up.

Speaking of the BoF

Congratulations on "The Pazhujeb Islands" on being the winners of the 25th BoF (aka BoF for WC38, aka Cup of Shapes and Colours)

Speaking of the BoF

Congratulations on "The Pazhujeb Islands" on being the winners of the 25th BoF (aka BoF for WC38, aka Cup of Shapes and Colours)

OMG Star lost in a Final????

WTG The Pazhujeb Islands on that impressive feat.

Congrats The Pazhujeb Islands!

May your islands not go under water because of climate change :D

Cool... I'm in the WC for sure now I guess. :)

Time to bring the Valerian Boyars back, baby!

Congratulations on "The Pazhujeb Islands" on being the winners of the 25th BoF (aka BoF for WC38, aka Cup of Shapes and Colours)

Aye, well done Paz, with big thumbs-up for the cockroaches and Hardy Boys, which I've enjoyed immensely.

Finishing Runner-up to a deserved RPing winner is fine by me.

I haven't been on here for a while... have I missed anything?

** ducks **

Nope absolutely nothing, I absolutely deny that I attempted to decapitate you and steal your KPB points. Nope, no way I did that.

>.>

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:D:D:D

Thanks everyone!

Can I put that on the list of unfunny things that Yaf has said, Baz?

Anyway... I think I'll set up the enormously large "Don't set precedent" sign here as well?

Sure, I wasn't thrilled that Star was allowed to take part in the BoF since not including them and Spaam would have given us a nice, neat 16-team field of truly new teams. However, I also knew from looking at the WC page on NS Wiki that there was precedent for returning nations that hadn't participated in the BoF before being allowed to participate, so I knew I didn't have a leg to stand on in protesting their inclusion, so I was smart enough to keep my mouth shut about it.

And I held the same sentiment. I'm well aware of the precedents and rules of this tournament and I'm perfectly aware that the IC argument has little to no merit. What people seem to be confusing here is that I actually think what Dr. Sorrere has claimed--I don't. So the suggestion that Jey, the player, "grows up," is misguided and inappropriate. I didn't feel that Star or Spaam's entrance was truly "right," but as you said there was nothing that could be done. The precedence and rules are there. The TSS School and Universitus won't admit wrongdoing, if you hadn't read their respective NSwiki pages (which I would link, if NSwiki weren't down at the moment), you'd quickly realize that both institutions have an incredibly large collective superiority complex and won't admit the slightest imperfection. So, to pacify their loss, a purely emotional "whiny" complaint was sent by the president calling the whole thing a sham. That's how Universitus works at times. If you want to call me whiny as a result, go ahead, I think that is misguided but your opinion is your opinion.

Regarding the withdrawl from the World Cup, I roleplayed the appropriate reaction for such an extreme institution--the "losers" were fired. Thus, there is no one left to really play for Jey in this world cup, so a withdrawl was necessary. Again, if you find this IC RP amateurish, adolescent, stupid, whiny, etc, that's fine--it's my RP though, please respect my crazy university president's decision.

-Jey IC situation: surely you can find twenty-three (eleven plus, really) new football players given 5.097 billion people? :p And if the officiating was to blame, wouldn't the relevant authorities rather vow revenge? Sorry if I feel like I'm intruding on your plotline, but I don't want to see the World Cup lose a potential participant.

-Do we have a consensus definition of the BoF? Somewhere between "a purely OOC endeavor to help new players learn how to RP" to "a purely IC invitational tournament for new nations"? I'm worried that leaving eligibility in the hands of the hosts invites too much inconsistency from cup to cup.

-Sincere congratulations to The Pazhujeb Islands. I've enjoyed the poignant way in which both of the finalists have portrayed Jaime Oberlander.When asked how he felt about defeating his home nation of Starblaydia in the final match, a country which he led to two World Cup victories as a player and four World Cup appearances as a manager, Oberlander simply paused, looked softly down at his feet, and then said quietly, "I'm still wearing purple."Very touching.

Sure, I wasn't thrilled that Star was allowed to take part in the BoF since not including them and Spaam would have given us a nice, neat 16-team field of truly new teams

See, that's where I would've cut them out to get the perfect 16.

Congrats to Pazhujeb!

It's getting a bit metapostingey. Jey withdraws from WC38 as part of an RP for WC39? Cool.

Can I put that on the list of unfunny things that Yaf has said, Baz?

Wha - ...where do I come into this? Congrats, The Pazhujeb Islands, I really enjoyed your Hardy-boys parodies.

I dunno if that's proper conversation for the boards. :p

Quiet, you.

Do we have a consensus definition of the BoF? Somewhere between "a purely OOC endeavor to help new players learn how to RP" to "a purely IC invitational tournament for new nations"? I'm worried that leaving eligibility in the hands of the hosts invites too much inconsistency from cup to cup.

The way I think it should be 'officially', which is in keeping with my participation, is that any nation with 0 KPB points who has not competed in a BoF previously should be allowed to enter if they choose. You should have one shot and one shot only at it when you're a 'crap' team with 0 points.

ICly, an experienced nation who has gone away for a while and returned to action may or may not be better than a brand-new starting nation, and the BoF in this case can help sort the wheat from the chaff, which in the 25th BoFs case would be Starblaydia and Spaam respectively. Plus, of course, it's a Baptism, which you only get once (afaik).

Sincere congratulations to The Pazhujeb Islands. I've enjoyed the poignant way in which both of the finalists have portrayed Jaime Oberlander. Very touching.

The old Obermiester has done well for himself *sniff*

Speaking as the BoF's inventor (by the name Kaze Progressa back then)...

well, it's gone in ways I didn't imagine it. It literally existed for me as a test of the radical-at-the-time WC12 scorination formula (WC12 was the debut of KPB, and the formula used was the first not to use sequential ranks), and giving newbies the chance to get involved seemed the perfect way of doing it. (Another radical-at-the-time scorination procedure for WC25, the first to use style modifiers, was tested by means of a friendly tournament involving teams of various styles and abilities.)

Now, of course, it's an established part of the WC cycle, and integrated within KPB itself - as it should be, I think, as it accelerates the early development of the better newbies (which is a very good thing). I had never considered the idea of 'returning teams', but I think the definition of 'a side on 0 KPB points who have not been in a BoF before' is as good as any, and would be what I used if I did a BoF again (alongside a debut host, probably).

psst...

I got a little something for ya.

These rankings are brand new, never been released before. And I do mean brand new, they've even got all that BoF stuff in 'em.

But you can't tell anyone I gave you these, all right? We can't let the secret out.

I've got 'em for you in three different formats, too. You can have the ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Rankings.ods), Excel (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Rankings.xls), or even PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/Official WC38 Rankings.pdf) if you want it. Take your pick.

And remember, you didn't get these from me.

psst...


TY for finally adding a file type i can use.. (PDF). Seeing as this dumb ass comp still won't let any ODS or Excel be opened without a 10-minute wait.

106th eh? sweet. Not my lowest rank ever, yey!

Nice one for the PDF, too.

Minor correction in my ranking: I won 27 points in the Cup of Harmony 27 (9 wins, 1 loss). With these points, I go to the 15th place in the rankings.

Not exactly, as apparently someone jacked up that entire competition.

9th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the PDF! I can open Excel, but it's easier with PDF. :)

Not exactly, as apparently someone jacked up that entire competition.

Yep. I take minimal responsibility for that, as I had not yet reassumed control of the rankings at that time. :p

Point values for CoH27 have now been fixed, and Cafundéu does indeed still go up to 15th.

Thank you very much, now if anybody tries to tell me Zwangzug are fourth in the world or something I can say "What are you on?" :p

<sigh>

Not so long ago, I was on the cusp of putting 2 teams into the top 10.

Now I don't even have one team in the top 20.

Truly the Lord hath placed the trials of Job before the faithful.

Hmmmm.... gives me an idea for an RP that. Yay! Inspiration from adversity!

I think 13th is the highest I've been.

Directly above Squorn...my first WC opponent. (Lost 5-0. Still heaviest defeat. I'm not bitter.)

Anyone seen Az-cz around lately? I want see how similar the new Jeruselem pink and blue strip is to one used by Az-cz.

no one can ever complain about me not giving a detailed roster :p

no one can ever complain about me not giving a detailed roster :p

Compared to Taeshan's ... no. :p

Hmm...I'd be annoyed if someone else was hosting and didn't put these links in here, so I suppose I should stay away from the hypocrite route.

WC38 RP thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543322)

WC38 roster thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543319)

Group draw to take place Saturday night, Matchday One on Monday.

Anyone seen Az-cz around lately? I want see how similar the new Jeruselem pink and blue strip is to one used by Az-cz.

Looks rather black to me, or at least it does when I look at it through Internet Explorer. However, when I saved it to my PC, it does indeed show up okay as a rather fetching shade of pink and blue. Does anyone else get this problem, or is it just me going doollally?

A hushed silence desendeth over the C&M's room as he looketh with a quickening heart to discover his current ranking...

Ah. No change from last time. Glorious. :)


Incidently, all Jeruselem's images look like the inside of a cat to me, and have done for ages...

Magnus Valerius is unranked again. Nothing like a clean slate. :p

By the way, does anyone here still make nice looking football kits for NSWC? I've been using the same, rather unprofessionally self-drawn kits since WC 16 or something.

I'll draw up a WC38 roster once NSwiki is back up and I can check a few things on my team article there.

Hmm...I'd be annoyed if someone else was hosting and didn't put these links in here, so I suppose I should stay away from the hypocrite route.

WC38 RP thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543322)

WC38 roster thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543319)

Group draw to take place Saturday night, Matchday One on Monday.

Good. I hate when people expect you to find them yourself.

Hey unfair my one for the coh was great but geese i gave all the facts iv always given except teams

A hushed silence desendeth over the C&M's room as he looketh with a quickening heart to discover his current ranking...

Ah. No change from last time. Glorious. :)


Incidently, all Jeruselem's images look like the inside of a cat to me, and have done for ages...

Must be PNG files are weird ... they look fine my computer but then I always use 32-bit colour so the colour palette isn't web friendly.

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Magnus Valerius

Ask Krytenia! JMC make great kits - Elves and me use the JMC kits. I just modified mine.

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Taeshan

Only teasing. You posted your little roster and then Elves post his massively long one after.

Magnus Valerius

Ask Krytenia! JMC make great kits - Elves and me use the JMC kits. I just modified mine.
Happy to if you want them - send me a TG with details and i'll set about it on Tuesday as I'm in Germany with the other half for a few days.

Happy to if you want them - send me a TG with details and i'll set about it on Tuesday as I'm in Germany with the other half for a few days.

Can you do me too? Pretty please? :D I'll TG you about it.

Can you do me too? Pretty please? :D I'll TG you about it.

No worries, I only supply decent teams in purple of course.

None of this Starblaydi muck :p

hey could you possibly look at the siko thread and do the jerseys i had asked solenial to do for me but he never finnished them. And can you redo my jerseys back like when errundea did them(horseknights)with the purple fromsollenial

YAY Glad the Cup is starting again!