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Nope. Try Again. There's also a logical problem with that guess.

Oh, it wasn't really a guess. It was more to make fun of Bostopia. :p

Goddamnit not again NEWI Cefn Druids.

Or maybe you are Sel Appa.

Let's play GUESS! THE! PUPPET!

Cafundeu or Milchama

Cafundeu
Racist
Milchama
No

Goddamnit not again NEWI Cefn Druids.

Or maybe you are Sel Appa.
Correct, senor. You win a free taco!

Ugh, 156 posts. That saddens me on nearly every level other than the "Whoo, posting!" one.

http://starblaydestudios.co.uk/Images/BoF27Logo.jpg
Find the thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551165).

Illegal Immigrants -> Irritating Conservatives -> A Hard Line Conservative Interested In Making Fun Of The "Stupidity" Of Illegal Immigrants -> Bostopia! :p

I'm not ALL hard-line, I'm pro-choice in some cases :p. The irritating thing I'll accept, though I wish to state my small-c conservativeness, not to be confused with Conservative Party-ness.

Cafundeu
Racist
or Milchama

Goddamnit not again NEWI Cefn Druids.

Or maybe you are Sel Appa.

Correct. You win a free taco.

Stupid II account couldn't post...


And for the record, I am a hardliner on illegal immigration. A storng reactionary and probably the most conservative on illegal immigration on NSG. Now, legal immigration, I'm down with.

Can I just point out that I hope Reading get relegated? If only because that will mean we'll probably stay up. Although if we DO stay up I'd rather someone else get relegated, if that makes sense.

Can I just point out that I hope Reading get relegated? If only because that will mean we'll probably stay up. Although if we DO stay up I'd rather someone else get relegated, if that makes sense.

A perfect scenario for me would be either 3 London teams or 3 Brum teams going down. Mind you, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd going down wouldn't be half bad either.

So you've conceded that you're not about to beat any of us and the only way you'll win the league is to try and somehow get us out of the way?

It'd be a shame to see that 88-year stretch in the top level die, though...

YAY the new phonebooks are here... uhm.. i mean the BoF is starting.

Meanwhile, the deadline for World Cup hosting bids is Wednesday 5 March at 0200 GMT (9pm Tuesday on the east coast of North America).

Bah, over a day late. Seriously, folks, this is what happens when you spam the discussion thread. :p

Bid submissions are now closed. The vote will begin Friday 7 March at 0000 GMT (7pm Thursday on the east coast of North America). For real this time.

I knew something was wrong, but couldn't figure out what....

Folks, I'm still taking applications for National Team Head Coach. Please TG me with name, profile, and qualifications of any candidates you may have.

A perfect scenario for me would be either 3 London teams or 3 Brum teams going down. Mind you, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd going down wouldn't be half bad either.

Bristol Rovers winning the FA Cup then blazing a trail through Europe wouldn't be half bad neither :p

I'm not ALL hard-line, I'm pro-choice in some cases :p. The irritating thing I'll accept, though I wish to state my small-c conservativeness, not to be confused with Conservative Party-ness.

Actually, according to your party membership, you're racist, socialist and a pro-white (read: English) BNPer :p

Actually, according to your party membership, you're racist, socialist and a pro-white (read: English)

Based on that description, Bos actually sounds French.

Actually, according to your party membership, you're racist, socialist and a pro-white (read: English) BNPer :p

I'm not a member of any political party, and if I was, I wouldn't share all their views (see socialism, white supremacy)

Based on that description, Bos actually sounds French.

Well, I guess Jimmy doing one, bruv can be considered as surrendering :p

Bah, over a day late. Seriously, folks, this is what happens when you spam the discussion thread. :p

Bid submissions are now closed. The vote will begin Friday 7 March at 0000 GMT (7pm Thursday on the east coast of North America). For real this time.
What's up with the one-bid-only stuff...

What's up with the one-bid-only stuff...
We seem to have scared people off, which is a shame. Competition is always good.

We seem to have scared people off, which is a shame. Competition is always good.

Or no-one else can be bothered, which is scarier, long-term, for the cup.

Or no-one else can be bothered, which is scarier, long-term, for the cup.
Indeed. The hell are we hosting 41 as well. :p

Indeed. The hell are we hosting 41 as well. :p

That and every U21 Cup and AOCAF in one long never-ending circle broken by the occasional Oriental, Oxen and Turtle Cup, in some kind of Faustian nightmare.

Aye, I'd just quit entering for 41 if that was the case.

That and every U21 Cup and AOCAF in one long never-ending circle broken by the occasional Oriental, Oxen and Turtle Cup, in some kind of Faustian nightmare.
You know there was no AOCAF in the WC39 cycle, right?

The signs are there.

HOSTING GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!

http://www.fotw.us/images/s/str_feds.gif

You know there was no AOCAF in the WC39 cycle, right?

The signs are there.

HOSTING GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!

http://www.fotw.us/images/s/str_feds.gif
Bird-plane?!?

That analogy makes no sense. We have no bugs here, nor any asteroids hitting Buenos Aires.

Voting for World Cup 40 hosts shall now begin (this time one hour early, since I happen to already have it prepared).

Once again, we have only one bid. So once again, the options are:

Accept Krytenia and Starblaydia as co-hosts for World Cup 40
Re-open the bidding process

All votes should be sent to Vephrall via telegram or other private means.

Voting will close Thursday 13 March at 2300 GMT (6pm Eastern).

The full list of eligible voters follows. One is eligible to vote either by being a member of the EWCC (in other words, having previously hosted) or by having posted a roster in each of the previous two Cups. Only one vote per player, please (sorry, your puppet can't vote :p).


Alasdair I Frosticus/The Archregimancy (EWCC)
Ariddia (EWCC)
Az-cz (EWCC)
Bazalonia (EWCC)
Bedistan/Vephrall (EWCC)
Bettia/Northern Bettia
Bostopia
Cafundéu/Estresse Intenso (EWCC)
Candelaria And Marquez
Casari (EWCC)
Commerce Heights/Capitalizt SLANI/Jaseuyeon (EWCC)
Daehanjeiguk
Elves Security Forces/Valanora/Demot (EWCC)
Geisenfried (EWCC)
Green wombat
Hopeless SC
Jeruselem/Jeru FC
Kaze Progressa/Kura-Pelland (EWCC)
Kelssek
Legalese/Novapsolu (EWCC)
Lethislavania (EWCC)
Liverpool England/Ad'ihan (EWCC)
Magnus Valerius
Milchama (EWCC)
New Montreal States (EWCC)
Nire and Nire
Oliverry/Septentrionia (EWCC)
Prux
Qazox
Quakmybush (EWCC)
The Islands of Qutar (EWCC)
Rejistania (EWCC)
Schiavonia/NEWI Cefn Druids/Druida/The Supermarket (EWCC)
Scotchpinestan
Sel Appa
Sorthern Northland
Spaam (EWCC)
Squornshelous
Taeshan
The Pazhujeb Islands
Tynelia
Vilita/Turori (EWCC)
Wentland
Yafor 2
Zwangzug
Krytenia (EWCC) - candidate, cannot vote
Starblaydia (EWCC) - candidate, cannot vote

That analogy makes no sense. We have no bugs here, nor any asteroids hitting Buenos Aires.
The lack of a "Buenos Aires" helps on that one. :p

Not So Fast Star/Kry, you have competition. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13507046#post13507046)

You know there was no AOCAF in the WC39 cycle, right?

The signs are there.

HOSTING GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!

http://www.fotw.us/images/s/str_feds.gif

Looks Aztec-like :)

I do believe it's a play on the "Mobile Infantry" of Starship Troopers

I do believe it's a play on the "Mobile Infantry" of Starship Troopers

The Book was 1000% better than the Movie.

The Book was 1000% better than the Movie.

I farking HATE when people say that. You can't expect the movie to be the same as the book. It's not meant to be the same; it's a different perspective. Take the book as a book and the movie as a movie. Jeez!

If you want something faithful to the book, watch the BBC's Hitchhiker's Guide and see how long you last.

Star, in the COH, on MD7 you have 4v6 and 4v5 listed as matches. I believe that the 4v6 is supposed to be 3v6, correct?

I farking HATE when people say that. You can't expect the movie to be the same as the book. It's not meant to be the same; it's a different perspective. Take the book as a book and the movie as a movie. Jeez!

If you want something faithful to the book, watch the BBC's Hitchhiker's Guide and see how long you last.

1- I saw the Movie first then decided to get the Book.
2- I have seen the BBC's Hitchhiker's Guide (it was on PBS about 5 or 6 years ago) and I thought it was brilliant and watched the entire thing.
3- Unlike most movie adapations of a book, Starship Troopers CHANGED ABOUT 90% OF the plot, thereby ruining the movie for me (after I read the book).

Star, in the COH, on MD7 you have 4v6 and 4v5 listed as matches. I believe that the 4v6 is supposed to be 3v6, correct?

Thanks! Good spot - fixed.

We seem to have scared people off, which is a shame. Competition is always good.

I was seriously considering mounting a bid on the theory that the Dreamed Realm had hosted WCs 28 & 34, so 40 would make it a regular 'every 6 cup' sort of thing (not sure where WC2 fits into that theory, but nevermind).

I eventually decided against offering a bid because:

1) I didn't think any of the potential Archregimancy / IC-compatible bidding partner options would beat a Star / Kry bid (so yes, I suppose you did scare me off)

2) I've actually been in and out of hospital a lot recently, and have spent much of the last 3.5 weeks drugged to the gills on painkillers. Nothing to do with my better-known medical condition; I've had a far more mundane - but excruciatingly painful - back injury. Much of the time I simply didn't physically feel up to putting the effort in to preparing and mounting a bid.

Maybe 41. If I can find a properly active IC-compatible partner for the Archregimancy (I want to give AIF an indefinite hosting break).

Star, in the COH, on MD7 you have 4v6 and 4v5 listed as matches. I believe that the 4v6 is supposed to be 3v6, correct?

These reads like a lucid, intelligent, and well-argued post.

I strongly suspect Eighthgraderistan has been getting help with his homework.

These reads like a lucid, intelligent, and well-argued post.

Scant few of those in this forum, never mind this thread.

Scant few of those in this forum, never mind this thread.

And when you throw in my inability to use correct grammar... 'these reads'?

Eightgraderistan writes better Englishy type stuff than an archaeologist with a PhD. It's officialist.

Funny, because if I recall correctly, Eighthgraderistan is, ironically, Qazox's puppet...

And when you throw in my inability to use correct grammar... 'these reads'?

Eightgraderistan writes better Englishy type stuff than an archaeologist with a PhD. It's officialist.

You're a studious Indiana Jones wannabe who's watched too much 'Time Team', then? :D

Eventually, I can access the 'net from home... this means by now, I lack the excuses to RP :)

You're a studious Indiana Jones wannabe who's watched too much 'Time Team', then? :D

Hardly <sniff of disdain>.

I'm a board member of, and newsletter editor of, a major international archaeology society, with a reasonably long publication profile.

I predate Time Team. In fact, I've worked on well-known international sites subsequently sullied by Tony Robinson & Co* years before they touched them.

That said, my company's doing a programme with them between March the 17th and 20th. Alas, Dr. Reg is not scheduled to appear, as I'm a specialist in post-1750 material culture, and the site is early medieval.

Why, I even think I wanted to be an archaeologist before Raiders of the Lost Ark came out, though it admittedly would have been a close run thing since I would have been about 13 at the time.

But no, I don't own a bullwhip.


*'sullied' doesn't reflect my actual opinion of Time Team, as I think they do a lot of good for the profession's profile. I just wish they'd make it clearer to prospective young archaeologists how poorly paid the profession is in general, and how hard it can be to get a position with any real job security.

1- I saw the Movie first then decided to get the Book.
2- I have seen the BBC's Hitchhiker's Guide (it was on PBS about 5 or 6 years ago) and I thought it was brilliant and watched the entire thing.
3- Unlike most movie adapations of a book, Starship Troopers CHANGED ABOUT 90% OF the plot, thereby ruining the movie for me (after I read the book).
The BBC version was utter crap. Even when you account for the special effects, technology, and acting of the time. It's so boring.
All a movie is is just an adaption or is just based on the book. They will never be a duplicate.

Maybe 41. If I can find a properly active IC-compatible partner for the Archregimancy (I want to give AIF an indefinite hosting break).
*COUGH!* sorry, it's that Bird flu...

But no, I don't own a bullwhip.
Get one--and a fedora.

The TV version of H2G2 was utterly brilliant and stuck very closely to the books - the depiction of the Guide itself, with graphics and voiceover, will never be improved upon.

The movie was... about average. The only really funny bit was them being smacked in the face for coming up with ideas.

The TV version of H2G2 was utterly brilliant and stuck very closely to the books - the depiction of the Guide itself, with graphics and voiceover, will never be improved upon.

The movie was... about average. The only really funny bit was them being smacked in the face for coming up with ideas.

I disagree, I think the movie was well above average, however the ending was clearly thought up by someone whose brain is powered by lemons.

The TV version of H2G2 was utterly brilliant and stuck very closely to the books - the depiction of the Guide itself, with graphics and voiceover, will never be improved upon.
It was pure and utter crap.

The movie was... about average. The only really funny bit was them being smacked in the face for coming up with ideas.
We should install such devices on Capitol Hill.

Get one--and a fedora.

I have a fedora. At the moment it's resting on top of a football trophy my dad won in Belgium or something, which also has a Liverpool scarf (bought in Cardiff, 2006, an hour before the 2006 Charity Shield (2 - 1!!! - God bless you, John Arne Riise, and thank you for scoring down my end of the pitch)) wrapped round it.

Also, on a non WCDT topic, I hope Mrs. Thatcher gets well. (quiet, Oli).

Funny, because if I recall correctly, Eighthgraderistan is, ironically, Qazox's puppet...

An that's supposed to mean what??? ;)


I disagree, I think the movie was well above average, however the ending was clearly thought up by someone whose brain is powered by lemons.

Or really stupid mice. I liked the movie, except for Marvin (Alan Rickman as the voice was brilliant, just the look of Marvin was....UGH.)

Actually, I used to have a fedora. I gave it away when I left Australia.

However, I still have:

1) My branded soft leather fedora-like hat, picked up in Marrakech in 1989
2) A pith helmet

Is that stereotypical enough for everyone?

As regards Hitchhiker's... As one of the older contributers to this forum, I remember watching it as a schoolboy in Edinburgh the first time around (1981?). In terms of faithfulness to the book and overall humour, I vastly prefer it to the film. However, there's no denying that the effects and sets are in that 'charming' (read 'budget-free') early 80's Dr. Who idiom, and perhaps Sel's objection therefore has as much to do with the look than the interpretation? Just trying to save everyone a little face here.

That said, I agree with Star that the look and graphics of the guide itself in the original have held up remarkably well over more than 25 years.

And remember that the original Marvin was in the film. He's in a queue on the Vogon planet.

All of which sort of vaguely gives me an idea for an AIF RP, so maybe this has all served a purpose after all, and therefore just about doesn't count as simple irrelevant spamming of the discussion thread. But it was getting close...

However, there's no denying that the effects and sets are in that 'charming' (read 'budget-free') early 80's Dr. Who idiom, and perhaps Sel's objection therefore has as much to do with the look than the interpretation

A clean, sleek, ultra-modern super sci-fi look just doesn't fit - in my interpretation - with a story that wonders why people are so obsessed with digital watches.

...So...how about World Cup 42 host bids? :p

The lack of a "Buenos Aires" helps on that one. :p

Well, there is one when you bother to spell the name of their city correctly. Oh, wait, I did. Next. :p

And I found the Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy is unique in the fact that every time you experience anything related to it, it gets worse.

...So...how about World Cup 42 host bids? :p
How clever...

And I found the Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy is unique in the fact that every time you experience anything related to it, it gets worse.

An every time you read it, you get a bit more confused about the world.

An every time you read it, you get a bit more confused about the world.

That's the whole point (of the first book anyway) is life is not meant to be understood.

You ask the fundamental questions of life and get a weird answer like 42... and even if you do find out... it only opens up new doors so that the world is far more complex than it was thought

I finally figured it out!!!

42 is the answer right?

The question is: In Which World Cup will Qazox FINALLY advance past the Group Stage?

Uhmm....damn.

It's been said that NationStates may be in decline. Here might be some proof of a slow and steady decline:
http://google.com/trends/viz?q=nationstates,+cybernations&graph=weekly_img&sa=N
NationStates
Cybernations

It's been said that NationStates may be in decline.

I have one of each, but the people on NS are more friendly and less Warmongering. So I stay in NS more.

(Just incase you're wondering... my CN Nation is not named the same as my NS nation. so don't go bothering looking for me there ;) )

NS came First and gets 80% of my attention (for nation-sim games) and CN gets 15%. the other 5%? Civilization IV.

Gonna see a time warp... LEAP FORWARD all (in US anyway except for parts of Indiana or Arizona.)

Gonna see a time warp... LEAP FORWARD all (in US anyway except for parts of Indiana or Arizona.)

Why the exceptions? That just confuses everyone more.

Why the exceptions? That just confuses everyone more.

Ask the people in those states why.

In Arizona, the Navajo Nation uses DST, while the Hopi nation (which is entirely wthin the Navajo Nation) does not. (or vice-versa)

as for indiana... Ask them wacky Hoosiers.

(funny thing: according to JOLT, I'm posting this 1 Hour in the past. (its 3:19 am now... lol)

It's not just the first book, but anything to do with the series. It's one of those things that's better in your brain.

Star, have Taeshan's BoF RPs been counting for Kosovoe, since the team involved is Kosovoe and he has no Jolt technical issues with Kosovoe but isn't RPing with it? (If that question makes any sense?)

Star, have Taeshan's BoF RPs been counting for Kosovoe, since the team involved is Kosovoe and he has no Jolt technical issues with Kosovoe but isn't RPing with it? (If that question makes any sense?)

Was wondering the exact same thing myself, actually.

I have one of each, but the people on NS are more friendly and less Warmongering. So I stay in NS more.
On CN, you click buttons to make war and actually benefit from it. On NS, there isn't even war and if you want it, you have to RP and you don't get anything from it.

as for indiana... Ask them wacky Hoosiers.
Quite honestly, I think they're the sane ones...

Living close to Indiana I know why they had the exception. They now, except for a few areas close to Chicago, follow EST/EDT.

The reason why they had the exception was because they weren't sure whether to have the state be Eastern (like Michigan, Ohio, and Kentucky) or have it be central (like Illinois and Wisconsin). This was especially considering that a lot residents of Indiana work in places in other states like Ohio (Cincinnati) and Illinois (Chicago). So in the end they compromised and had neither which each county or city being able to choose it's own time.

Then last year or so the people advocating for ET won out so they legislature passed a law making Indiana follow EST/EDT except for a few select counties near Chicago that use Central Time.

Star, have Taeshan's BoF RPs been counting for Kosovoe, since the team involved is Kosovoe and he has no Jolt technical issues with Kosovoe but isn't RPing with it? (If that question makes any sense?)


[04:33am] • Starblaydia sighs at LE's comment in the WCDT about Taeshan/Kosovoe

I'd suggest that avoiding the question does your WC bid no good.

From what else I've seen in IRC it would appear Kosovoe is getting the full RP bonus from Taeshan (you telling Oli/Septentrionia that Kosovoe has a higher RP bonus than him, which should not be possible as Kosovoe technically hasn't RPed at all this cup), which rather destroys the point of puppets and is unfair on others who are using puppets for whom it would be much more convenient to do as Taeshan is doing, and this is encouraging a bad precedent of RPing as your main nation for your puppet.

I should point out that past precedent (when there are no technical issues) has been to cut the RP bonus in half when the main nation is RPing for the puppet (I will also make it clear now that this was applied to me and various others, most noticeably during the Colony Cup/pre-BoF for WC17, so no one even try to claim hypocrisy).

Also, if this happens in the WCQ, may I know what you will do? I have yet to cast my vote and your response will affect the way I vote.

Living close to Indiana I know why they had the exception. They now, except for a few areas close to Chicago, follow EST/EDT.

The reason why they had the exception was because they weren't sure whether to have the state be Eastern (like Michigan, Ohio, and Kentucky) or have it be central (like Illinois and Wisconsin). This was especially considering that a lot residents of Indiana work in places in other states like Ohio (Cincinnati) and Illinois (Chicago). So in the end they compromised and had neither which each county or city being able to choose it's own time.

Then last year or so the people advocating for ET won out so they legislature passed a law making Indiana follow EST/EDT except for a few select counties near Chicago that use Central Time.

DST is a joke and a farce. All it does is create headaches. It doesn't have any net benefits.

I'd suggest that avoiding the question does your WC bid no good.

From what else I've seen in IRC it would appear Kosovoe is getting the full RP bonus from Taeshan, which rather destroys the point of puppets and is unfair on others who are using puppets for whom it would be much more convenient to do as Taeshan is doing, and this is encouraging a bad precedent of RPing as your main nation for your puppet.

I should point out that past precedent (when there are no technical issues) has been to cut the RP bonus in half when the main nation is RPing for the puppet (I will also make it clear now that this was applied to me and various others, most noticeably during the Colony Cup/pre-BoF for WC17).

Also, if this happens in the WCQ, may I know what you will do? I have yet to cast my vote and your response will affect the way I vote.

As an active participating nation in this Baptism of Fire, hoping to win it, it doesn't really concern me that Taeshan is using his main nation to RP with Kosovoe. Sure, it would be better if he just used Kosovoe for the RPing, but it's really not a big deal to me. Don't see any of my fellow BoF competitiors having an issue with it. No harm, no foul. Play on.

That's not the point. It's setting a very, very bad precedent for future tournaments, including the World Cup. It's been disallowed before, why start now? If you enter a puppet, at least have the decency to RP with it rather than your main nation, or not RP at all. Otherwise it's just making a farce out of our puppet/parent system.

I think the precedent most disadvantageous to a new nation such as myself has already been set. That is, that I have to compete against puppets of established nations in this to begin with. Sure the puppets are new nations, but they come with the reputation of their master nation. At some point though, you all decided that you would allow it, and I respect that decision. Perhaps this is the best way if puppets are allowed. But i just think, the Baptism of Fire would be best if there were no puppets because it defeats the purpose of truly new people trying to make their way in this competition.

This isn't a complaint about it. It's just an observation. I respect what you've all decided in the past. I can see it frustrating some new people who may have good intentions in the beginning and perhaps aren't ready to accept the fact that this is a very long climb until we, as new nations, seriously have a shot at the World Cup. They could be turned off by the puppets. That's my point. Taeshan RPing as Kosovoe.... really doesn't matter. The bigger precedent is already there.

But it's fine as again I want to make sure everyone knows this is just an observation of mine and not a complaint about the system you have in place.

The entire point of a puppet is to RP with it, that an either your main nation isn't allowed to post (see Yafor 2) or you just want some more "practice" with RPing (See: Qazox and Sativaville/Eightgraderistan).

I think the new WCPrez needs to rule on this.

If you have a puppet in the BoF, RP with that puppet, unless you notify both the host(s) and the fellow competitiors BEFORE the BoF begins. If you do not, then RP's SHOULDN'T count.

I'd suggest that avoiding the question does your WC bid no good.

My suggestion is your question is motivated purely by two things. One is an apparent overall dislike of Taeshan and his RPs (similar to your incorrect and irrelevant rant about Milchama 'not deserving' his WC final place), while the other is to undermine me as a host as much as possible so you can win a CoH vote later. That is what the sigh was for, because you're showing that wonderfully-mature streak of yours yet again.

From what else I've seen in IRC it would appear Kosovoe is getting the full RP bonus from Taeshan (you telling Oli/Septentrionia that Kosovoe has a higher RP bonus than him, which should not be possible as Kosovoe technically hasn't RPed at all this cup), which rather destroys the point of puppets and is unfair on others who are using puppets for whom it would be much more convenient to do as Taeshan is doing, and this is encouraging a bad precedent of RPing as your main nation for your puppet.

Oh, the bitch that is precedent in the NSWC. I've never been a fan of how many NSWCers see that just because it was done one way in the past, it needs to be done that way in the future. Arbitrary decisions taken by one host or another, for whatever reason, shouldn't make cast-iron rules for future hosts. Again, I suggest you're just ragging on Taeshan purely because you don't like the existence of his RPs. He's obviously trying his best, here, and I, for one, won't penalise him for that.

I should point out that past precedent (when there are no technical issues) has been to cut the RP bonus in half when the main nation is RPing for the puppet (I will also make it clear now that this was applied to me and various others, most noticeably during the Colony Cup/pre-BoF for WC17, so no one even try to claim hypocrisy).

WC17? That was what... three years ago? Nearly four? I am not bound by what Vil decided to do way back then - notice we don't have a Colony Cup either, but pre-WC17 precedent would say we must do that, too.

Also, if this happens in the WCQ, may I know what you will do? I have yet to cast my vote and your response will affect the way I vote.

If it happens during a WC Qualifying campaign co-hosted by myself I'll score the RP and move on to the next one.

Leave Taeshan be, and get off your soap box, LE about other people doing well who's RPs you don't like. I'm not a big fan of your RPs, myself. Taeshan has come a long way in his short time, from one-liners to an actual paragraph structure, and I for one would rather have him participating with his 'main' forum account than not.

Besides, the Archreg/AIF will never qualify again if you only get 1/2 points for posting with the wrong nation.

Hey Starblaydia.....
The Rockets are trying to determine which stadium we need to travel to for our next game. We don't want to travel to the wrong place.

You have two stadiums listed for 2nd listed Group Eagle matches, and nothing for the 5th listed.

Sports Hall, Karak D'Ragh - Karak Ungor Chiefs (60,000): 2nd listed Group Eagle Matches
Stadii Karela, Nova Malta - Malta Lines (31,000): 2nd listed Group Eagle Matches

The whole Taeshan/Kosovoe thingfrom the eyes of me!

There are 2 different and yet related situations regarding puppets, RPing with a different forum account, and RPing as a different nation.

I haven't read the RP's in the BoF but from what I have been hearing is that they fall into the first category. To be honest... Who really care about what forum account you use, the account is only a mechanism to allow us to post your RP's like Yafor and CH... Does CH even use the JSY account anymore? I haven't noticed it for a while (though dosn't mean he doesn't use it) Yet have there been a stink kicked up about it? No

If this is the case then, I say continue on.. the WCC rules say everythingexcept a very limited amount of things are upto the hosts. If Star/Kry want to do it this way they have every right to do so, but should someone disagree with ANY aspect of their bid they can choose to vote against. I see no problem anywhere and it'll only become a problem if people won't let it go.

And then there are other things... For example in the Qu-ak WC, WC35 or something, I had a small RP with a puppet of mine not related at all to the WC through a private talk with Az. I wasn't RPing as Bazalonia nor... Miceland.. I think it was at that time and so I didn't get an RP bonus to Bazalonia nor Miceland.

And that's what it should be...

In short... I see no problem with Taeshan using the Taeshan forum account to write and post Kosovoe RPs, however if the RP's were Taeshan RPs then they shouldn't be.

Well done, Star, you've successfully accused me of something I wasn't even thinking of. I could care less whether or not I won the CoH bid. I'm bidding for the CoH to give Acapais the chance to host. I won't feel bad if I lost that host vote, and it was never in my intention to, as you insinuate, "undermine [you] as a host so that [I] can win the CoH vote".

I would really appreciate an apology for you jumping to conclusions here and wildly throwing that accusation at me. That accusation is blatantly unfair, and the CoH vote was farthest from my mind when I first questioned it.

If I really wanted to win the CoH vote I'd be bidding with someone I know can win me the vote, and not with someone who I know WANTS to host something but will not get a chance otherwise. Or, if I really wanted to win the vote, I wouldn't have bid this time round at all and waited for next cup when the competition wasn't as fierce. Do you really think I'm that sad as to wholeheartedly want to spend good time I could use doing other things? If I win the bid, fine, that's good for Acapais. If I don't, it's fine by me too and I will not lose anything by not winning the bid.

So I would really appreciate it if you would apologise. There's no need for handbags — by accusing me of that surely you have done your own image no good. Furthermore, there is a third CoH bid. Why would I do anything so stupid as to intentionally "undermine you" just to let the third bid slip in?

I am quite angered that you would jump to such a conclusion without talking to me first following my post. I have asked an innocent question and done nothing wrong and yet made out to look like the bad guy.

On to that other point. "[My] apparent dislike of Taeshan and his RPs" is ridiculous. Now, while I have made no secret of the fact that I think his RPs could be better, I fully recognise he is trying to improve. Once again you have accused me of something without thinking about it.

I hold nothing personally against Taeshan (the only thing I feel strongly about is that he should not be hosting any tournaments until he improves in his RPing, which he is doing). I do not "dislike" him.

Please do NOT accuse me of things you have no basis for.

Hey Starblaydia.....
The Rockets are trying to determine which stadium we need to travel to for our next game. We don't want to travel to the wrong place.

You have two stadiums listed for 2nd listed Group Eagle matches, and nothing for the 5th listed.

Sports Hall, Karak D'Ragh - Karak Ungor Chiefs (60,000): 2nd listed Group Eagle Matches
Stadii Karela, Nova Malta - Malta Lines (31,000): 2nd listed Group Eagle Matches

Oops, this is how it is supposed to read:

Sports Hall, Karak D'Ragh - Karak Ungor Chiefs (60,000): 2nd listed Group Eagle Matches
Stadii Karela, Nova Malta - Malta Lines (31,000): 5th listed Group Eagle Matches

Should have spotted that earlier, as it's a fairly long way between the two grounds.

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LE, I think people have made up their own minds about me over these past years, as they will have done for you. I've stated my opinions, along with what I'm actually doing about the RPing situation. That is all I have to say on the matter.

Okay, fair enough. I will just say this to finish. If this were a real-life situation with real-life implications, there is little doubt I would have taken legal advice to clear my name. I have no hidden agendas and for you to accuse me of doing so, I would definitely have done what needed to be done (including legal action and/or polygraphs) to ensure that it was cleared up.

I might have a bad history wrt host votes but I have laid out my points. I have better things to do than to hurt anyone else's bids just to host something which I do not really care about if I don't get to host it, and bad history or not I think people are smart enough to consider my points and not my history. I am innocent; I do not have any ulterior motives and I wish you (and Dephrall) both the best in the CoH vote.

With an Official Presidential Announcement, ladies and gentlemen, your World Cup Committee President, Mr. Angufams Wecoisus.

Wecoisus steps into the room and clears his throat

IT.

IS.

JUST.

A.

GAME.

Thank you.

Wecoisus leaves the room

Dancougar FA seconds that.

Oh, we've proverbially kissed and made up anyway.

Or should that be shaken hands? Dunno. Anyways, done.

Besides, the Archreg/AIF will never qualify again if you only get 1/2 points for posting with the wrong nation.

Actually, I thought I usually did rather well at remembering when I'm supposed to posting with which nation (though I know I did get it wrong at least once last cup). Perhaps I need to be more careful?

As to the Taeshan issue, he probably should be posting with the puppet rather than the primary nation, and if I were hosting, I'd send him a gentle TG to remind him accordingly.

But the point is, I'm not hosting, and as I understand it, the hosts have total discretion in these matters unless there's a rule specifically stating that they don't have discretion.

Since there appears to be no specific official rule either banning Taeshan from posting his Kosovoe RPs or discouraging him from doing so, then Star and Kry are free to take whatever approach they deem fit. Others are likewise free to disagree with them, but given that they've been chosen as hosts, then that disagreement has little practical effect for the current tournament.

And while we all seem to have kissed and made up / shaken hands, perhaps some of the rhetoric on both sides did get a teensy bit heated there for a couple of posts for an issue that remains at the hosts' discretion.

Speaking here as an uninvolved third party, not as the WCC President:

Given that it is possible that it could just be a matter of forgetting to log out of one nation and into another, I personally (again, let me stress this is my personal opinion, not my presidential one) think there should be no explicit penalty.

I would issue a word of warning, though: at least in competitions where you may have both a main nation and a puppet participating, I would be very likely to just give it all to the nation it's being posted with unless it's made very clear at the start of the post that it was meant for the other nation.

Speaking here as an uninvolved third party...

I would issue a word of warning, though: at least in competitions where you may have both a main nation and a puppet participating, I would be very likely to just give it all to the nation it's being posted with unless it's made very clear at the start of the post that it was meant for the other nation.

I agree entirely with Veph's opinion, when the 'Reg occasionally posts with the wrong nation (purely an example, you're the only person I know who has done so and makes an OOC comment at the top), he makes it clear that he's done so, and accordingly, there's no confusion. I wouldn't suggest anyone make a habit of this though, unless your primary account is messed up.

Worlds biggest pain in the ass- Liverpool England
Worlds coolest dude-Bazalonia, Starblaydia
Worlds biggest unnderachiver-Qazox
Worlds coolest president-Vephrall
Worlds uncoolest president-George bush
Worlds biggest overachiever-The chipmunks
Worlds uncoolest dude-My mom
Worlds smallest pain in the ass-Dancougar

Written on a piece of paper in taeshan central western east side of atlantea middle schools bulletin board

Don't know why it never occurred to me until today (until reading Bostopia's last post), but in the world of funny coincidences....

My maternal grandfather's name was Reg. I didn't pick this nation's name with that anywhere close to being a consideration, so it's sort of mildly spooky - in a pleasant way - that so many people use that as my nation's OOC nickname.

If only I could claim that my paternal grandfather was called Arch, I'd have both common OOC nicknames covered. Alas, his name is (and he's still with us - alive, alert, and nearly 92) Ron.

And no, I have no plans to change the nation's name to 'The Ronregimancy'.

Don't know why it never occurred to me until today (until reading Bostopia's last post), but in the world of funny coincidences....

My maternal grandfather's name was Reg. I didn't pick this nation's name with that anywhere close to being a consideration, so it's sort of mildly spooky - in a pleasant way - that so many people use that as my nation's OOC nickname.

If only I could claim that my paternal grandfather was called Arch, I'd have both common OOC nicknames covered. Alas, his name is (and he's still with us - alive, alert, and nearly 92) Ron.

And no, I have no plans to change the nation's name to 'The Ronregimancy'.

You could go with, for AIF, "The Holy Ronpire" instead ;)

Given that it is possible that it could just be a matter of forgetting to log out of one nation and into another, I personally (again, let me stress this is my personal opinion, not my presidential one) think there should be no explicit penalty.

I would issue a word of warning, though: at least in competitions where you may have both a main nation and a puppet participating, I would be very likely to just give it all to the nation it's being posted with unless it's made very clear at the start of the post that it was meant for the other nation.

I agree 109.3%. My concerns regarding this matter lie in the same realm as Vephrall's (which is to say, we might get confused between which nation the RP is actually for), and a little reminder at the top does serve as a good clarification.

Don't know why it never occurred to me until today (until reading Bostopia's last post), but in the world of funny coincidences....

My maternal grandfather's name was Reg. I didn't pick this nation's name with that anywhere close to being a consideration, so it's sort of mildly spooky - in a pleasant way - that so many people use that as my nation's OOC nickname.

If only I could claim that my paternal grandfather was called Arch, I'd have both common OOC nicknames covered. Alas, his name is (and he's still with us - alive, alert, and nearly 92) Ron.

And no, I have no plans to change the nation's name to 'The Ronregimancy'.
Damn, you're probably twice my age and my last grandparent died in 2003 at age 90...my family is old. Good health to him.


The FFSA has formed an exploratory committee for the 32nd Cup of Harmony and is looking for a potential co-host (preferably someone who hasn't hosted before).

And apologies for my Turtle Cup bunglings. >_<

i would consider doing it sel, but there would be opposition and ive not exactly got the computer needed to run the best scorinators.

I think I've set the standard once again. After all, I did mention that I was seeking a potential host bid for WC60...

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Terreiro de Ogum 4 2 1 0 11 6 5 10
Agroprom 3 0 0 3 1 7 -2 0
Wijaska Island 3 1 1 1 2 2 0 4
Sarejavo 4 1 2 1 4 6 -2 5
(OOC: This isnt meant to be included towards my RP bonus. I just had to post something because of the irony that about half an hour after I posted it, Pantocratoria showed up! Hello, Pantocratoria!)

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Uh oh, is the DDR guy missing all his jumps? ^_^

Worlds biggest pain in the ass- Liverpool England
Worlds coolest dude-Bazalonia, Starblaydia
Worlds biggest unnderachiver-Qazox
Worlds coolest president-Vephrall
Worlds uncoolest president-George bush
Worlds biggest overachiever-The chipmunks
Worlds uncoolest dude-My mom
Worlds smallest pain in the ass-Dancougar

Written on a piece of paper in taeshan central western east side of atlantea middle schools bulletin board

Gee Thanks for the vote of confidence there, taeshan.

<Goes and drink a fifth of Jack>

jhjgjkdghjkds and the horse you rode (HIC) in on.

Worlds biggest pain in the ass- Liverpool England
Worlds coolest dude-Bazalonia, Starblaydia
Worlds biggest unnderachiver-Qazox
Worlds coolest president-Vephrall
Worlds uncoolest president-George bush
Worlds biggest overachiever-The chipmunks
Worlds uncoolest dude-My mom
Worlds smallest pain in the ass-Dancougar

Written on a piece of paper in taeshan central western east side of atlantea middle schools bulletin board

Oh man, nice! A winner is me! One cup under my belt and I'm already collecting the hardware.

Hey, you know that obnoxious little pinprick that jolts you when you're relaxing in front of the big game with a beer in hand, and you reach around and nothing's there? That's me!

Tynelia v Candelaria & Marquez
Jasiyun v Ulzaxid

That is what the WC semis would look like (roughly) based on the FA Cup semis.

Not sure what the point I had is, but there you go.

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To err is human, to take 7 away from 1 and get -2 is just crap mathematics.

Tynelia v Candelaria & Marquez
Jasiyun v Ulzaxid

That is what the WC semis would look like (roughly) based on the FA Cup semis.

Not sure what the point I had is, but there you go.

I'd replace one of the above with Rejistania, because you need a team that's won plenty of times in the past, but has fallen way down the rankings since.

But the FA Cup is giving me a full-blown existential crisis.

As a Portsmouth supporter, I'm thrilled to have made it this far.

But being a Portsmouth supporter is supposed to be a life-long struggle with mediocrity and failure while you follow a not too prominent team. The last few years of success and Premiership consolidation have been savaging my supporting worldview.

But at least I could console myself with last year's failure to qualify for Europe due to a dodgy refereeing decision on the final day of the season; that's almost Archregimancy-quality soul-strengthening suffering for you.

But what am I supposed to do when my team are not only the favourites to win the whole damn thing, but when on top of that, practically every other supporter in the country doesn't want to win because you're the last 'big' club left? (or alternatively because you're a bitter Manchester United supporter). This isn't how it's supposed to be! I'm supposed to be supporting the plucky underdog, not the big bully. I can't cope.



Maybe I should point out that West Brom have won the Cup five times more than other finalist, and 29 years more recently... Not very convincing as arguments go, is it?

Think it's based on mapping KPB rankings to position in the league (taking top of the Championship as 21st).

Dunno about any of you, but I blame Margaret. :)

FAIL to BID

Yep, that's right you heard it right here...

FAIL, the Football Association International League (of Yafalonia and Bazor 2), is bidding to host the upcoming Cup of Harmony... The one After World Cup XL (What's Extra Large got to do with the Cup. anyway?)

Do we have stadiums? of course we have stadiums, we've stadiums in Yafalonia AND Bazor 2. (Do you know where they are? because I don't.) Our stadiums (or "stadia", as they are called among the studious) are large and well maintained - we even have running water and working bathrooms! Our stadiums have been ranked number 132 in the world by Stadiums Incorporated® (never mind the number of nations in that ranking scheme, okay?).

Experience at hosting? Yes, we've hosted a very complicated 12 tier competition with hundreds of teams (Forget that some teams are actually repeated up to 10 times.) over at least 2 nations (Yafalonia and Bazor 2 count as two nations don't they?), twenty thousand players (no, we didn't just randomly pick names out of a phonebook), and at least eleven hundred referees(actually 7 of them just vanished)!

So come and support the Bid of FAIL in the upcoming Cup of Harmony... (Whatever number it is...) We're sure it'll be Extra Large!

The YafoRP Bonus Formula®will be used... (What the heck is a YafoRP Bonus Formula?!)

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Scorinator: NSFS 2.0.7 (If it's released in time)
Group Format: We'll probably be using a non-standard format, our current plan is to have 5 groups, 3 top teams from each will progress and the last spot for Ro16 will be the winner of a round=robin tournament between the 4th placed teams. 20 or 25 teams
Style mods: ±2e (±5.43)
Rankings: Post WC40

OOC Hosts: Bazalonia and Yafor 2, Bazalonia has had experience with hosting BoFs, CoHs and has even hosted a WC before while Yafor 2 is a new host. Assuming we will be hosting ourselves in the tournament, We will choose someone to scorinate our games (Whether our main or Y&B2 nations). More bid information is forthcoming, we just thought we'd get the preliminary stuff done first.

Winnar of a name of the CoH bid there, Baz/Yafor! :p

We still need a co-host to make this the most challenged-for CoH...or tournament ever.

While it may seem we are against incredible odds in a 5-way fight, we can put forth the most epic bid.

I'll co-host with Sel for epic win.

Star!!!

I should be 4-1-0 not 3-1-0. an my GF should be 12; GA=4 GD= +8. thanks.

Think it's based on mapping KPB rankings to position in the league (taking top of the Championship as 21st).

Roughly, yes. With some allowance for games in hand.

*weeps at never having won the cup despite having been in NINE semi-finals*

Star!!!

I should be 4-1-0 not 3-1-0. an my GF should be 12; GA=4 GD= +8. thanks.

Do forgive me, these BoF tables are all done by hand, so expect an error or five.

Oh, in other news, the leaders of all Atlantian Oceania, World Cup and other random viewing nations are invited to Starblaydia's Anniversary Celebration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551644) for alcohol, fun, frolics, alcohol, beach volleyball, alcohol and maybe even some intoxicating beverages throw in.

Hurrah!

Gah, that's terrible, Muriel ;)

Just a question but did the WorldVision contest get canned (no thread on the board) before it started? Already predicted bad ratings was it?

Just a question... Do BoF contestants have some chance at placing themselves for the final stages of the WC? I mean, we're new and don't have much of a ranking yet... I know it's possible but does it happen a lot or not?

Gah, that's terrible, Muriel ;)

Just a question but did the WorldVision contest get canned (no thread on the board) before it started? Already predicted bad ratings was it?

No, it's still getting there... the WorldVision can be a bit slow...
There are still songs to be submited (check it's OP to see who has and who hasn't)

but this isn't probably the best place to discuss it

Just a question but did the WorldVision contest get canned (no thread on the board) before it started? Already predicted bad ratings was it?The forum by default only displays the threads that have been posted in within the last day, you can change this by scrolling down and changing the "From The" box.

The thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551318

(I've had a great band name in my head for literal years, and now that I have a chance to use it I can't think of a song title! :p But this weekend I should get some inspiration.)

Nethertopia-the short answer is, "not".

Sel Appa-FAIL are bidding for WC41's CoH, I think, so a bid for WC40's would "only" make 4.

Just a question... Do BoF contestants have some chance at placing themselves for the final stages of the WC? I mean, we're new and don't have much of a ranking yet... I know it's possible but does it happen a lot or not?

It only rarely happens - 'count on the fingers of one finger' type of rare.

Everyone has their own tale of how many attempts it took, but for my first qualification happened in my third attempt (back in WC17), and second time around I qualified at the second attempt (in WC39), having come second in the BoF.

Just keep up the RPing, have fun and don't worry about it too much.

Not qualifying for the WC is like dropping a burger on the grass at a barbecue: It all adds to the taste. Unless with your high rank you're actually trying for a gourmet burger, and then it just tastes really bad. To extend the metaphor beyond all reasonable borders, at least.

That's why I've established the 10-year plan. World Cup 50 Championship, here we come!

That's why I've established the 10-year plan. World Cup 50 Championship, here we come!

It took me 10 cups, from WC15, before I won it in WC25 - so it's an achievable aim!

And anyway the CoH is far more prestigious :D

(ooc: see http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_02/BudgetPA1203_468x299.jpg)

Brit Government Backing Star/Kry for WC40?

The large numbers of those wearing a shade of purple today at the budget announcement has led to many speculators to speculate the U.K. Government is backing Starblaydia and Krytenia's bid for World Cup 40. *continued on page 4*

(ooc: see http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_02/BudgetPA1203_468x299.jpg)

Brit Government Backing Star/Kry for WC40?

The large numbers of those wearing a shade of purple today at the budget announcement has led to many speculators to speculate the U.K. Government is backing Starblaydia and Krytenia's bid for World Cup 40. *continued on page 4*

rofl

Not even photoshopped :D

Thanks for the info, Star. I'm hoping for some lucky wins ;)

But i'm planning a national professional competition as well. That should help ;)

And in other news, it's a bad day for Coventry.

Not only have we unearthed a UXB from WW2 (the Germans really need to let that go :p </sarcasm>) evacuating most of town - though not me, as I work on the "city limits" by Junction 2 of the M6, we've also had to close two of the main shopping routes in town due to "immediate action to reduce or remove some of the loads currently above [the stuff underneath the road]" basically cause it's about to collapse if we keep driving on it. I got an update to say there are roads under the road which lead to a shopping building which are the problem.

So, while not WC related, I'm sure some of you will have heard Coventry was about to go kaboom/sink at the same time and was worried about me. Or not, but hey, you all get to laugh at me. Personally I blame shoddy 50's/60's building work - bloody hippies.

And in other news, it's a bad day for Coventry.

Yup. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/7292097.stm)

It only rarely happens - 'count on the fingers of one finger' type of rare.

It can be done, though...my first World Cup was more successful than BoF, I didn't get beyond the group stages in the latter but fluked into the WC finals by being the sole RPer (apart from Baz and Squorn) in group.

Due to a scheduling conflict, the voting period for World Cup 40 hosts is being extended by three hours. The deadline is now Friday 14 March at 0200 GMT (Thursday 10pm EDT). That's 31 and a half hours from now.

That's why I've established the 10-year plan. World Cup 50 Championship, here we come!

Good luck with that. I'm halfway through my 2nd 10-yr plan. (1st WC27-36; 2nd WC 37-current). And i haven't YET gotten past the opening round.

I almost had my 5, 9, and 10 Cup plans work :p

Is this where I tiresomely point out for the umpteenth time that the Holy Empire made it to the finals of the very first Cup it participated in without even having to qualify?









And is this where I anticipate pedants by admitting that we didn't have any qualifying in WC1 - the first 32 nations to sign up were the 32 nations who reached the finals.



In other news, Star, I would like to respond to your anniversary invite by involving Juan Tzimisces, and using this perhaps as a springboard for the other RP issues we've previously discussed by TG, but I'm incredibly pressed in RL for the next couple of days, so I may not get around to it until Friday.

But the plan is to have Juan be granted a special dispensation to leave the Dreamed Realm and attend. Whether he has other IC conversations with Starblaydi citizens while he's there is something we may have to address by TG.

And let us not forget the immortal Oickoidia who qualified on his first try without having to RP anything (subsequently weeded out in the WC Finals).

OFC IV results go up tonight!

And in other news, it's a bad day for Coventry.

Not only have we unearthed a UXB from WW2 (the Germans really need to let that go :p </sarcasm>) evacuating most of town - though not me, as I work on the "city limits" by Junction 2 of the M6, we've also had to close two of the main shopping routes in town due to "immediate action to reduce or remove some of the loads currently above [the stuff underneath the road]" basically cause it's about to collapse if we keep driving on it. I got an update to say there are roads under the road which lead to a shopping building which are the problem.

So, while not WC related, I'm sure some of you will have heard Coventry was about to go kaboom/sink at the same time and was worried about me. Or not, but hey, you all get to laugh at me. Personally I blame shoddy 50's/60's building work - bloody hippies.

Dis town (aah-ah)
Is coming like a Ghost Town (aah-ah)

And let us not forget the immortal Oickoidia who qualified on his first try without having to RP anything (subsequently weeded out in the WC Finals).

OFC IV results go up tonight!

Han, your scheduling is still off - Starblaydia play Kalmykstan twice for the last two MDs, while Valanora plays Sokojito and Sokojiwa twice on MD3 and 4 - haven't checked everyone's schedules, but I know those two are out.

This (http://www.vys.org/docs/House/HCommish/schedule%20matrices.htm) is a good resource for setting up groups if you're having trouble.

The forum by default only displays the threads that have been posted in within the last day, you can change this by scrolling down and changing the "From The" box.

The thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551318

(I've had a great band name in my head for literal years, and now that I have a chance to use it I can't think of a song title! :p But this weekend I should get some inspiration.)

Nethertopia-the short answer is, "not".

Sel Appa-FAIL are bidding for WC41's CoH, I think, so a bid for WC40's would "only" make 4.
We are both bidding for the upcoming CoH. FAIL is a bit confusing, but does say the CoH after WC40.

At this point, why doesn't everyone put in a bid... >_<

And let us not forget the immortal Oickoidia who qualified on his first try without having to RP anything (subsequently weeded out in the WC Finals).
My BoF!

Thanks for pointing out the errors.

I have them all done correctly on my scorinator - it's just translating them from there to the post itself that's so difficult (and the scorinator is homemade too, so no fancy stuff like what I used for CoH31).

At this point, why doesn't everyone put in a bid... >_<

Well, we just did it last run, so we don't feel like doing it again. Our IFA Chairman is still trying to fix his DDR.

What is the World Cup Committee's rules concerning players on some teams using illegal drugs?

We got one guy on one team smoking marijuana which isn't too bad I suppose, but now we got guys on another team being busted for crack.

Shouldn't the Committee be kicking these guys off their teams? Or do we just kinda allow this stuff to slide? I just want to know.

What is the World Cup Committee's rules concerning players on some teams using illegal drugs?

We got one guy on one team smoking marijuana which isn't too bad I suppose, but now we got guys on another team being busted for crack.

Shouldn't the Committee be kicking these guys off their teams? Or do we just kinda allow this stuff to slide? I just want to know.
They must leave them at the Sel Appan border. We actually don't confiscate drugs unless they are illegal in the last country you were in. You just check them in at the border and pick them up on the way out. :)

What is the World Cup Committee's rules concerning players on some teams using illegal drugs?

We got one guy on one team smoking marijuana which isn't too bad I suppose, but now we got guys on another team being busted for crack.

Shouldn't the Committee be kicking these guys off their teams? Or do we just kinda allow this stuff to slide? I just want to know.

I don't think the WCC has any rules in place regarding this. After all, what's a guy on crack compared with a sentient pack of diapers? :p

And there was much rejoicing throughout Hopeless SC today as Dance 2 Revolution ceased to exist.





Nothing personal against D2R. For those of you that don't remember our teams had an incident in my WC debut (in WC 38) where their captain ended the career of my star forward.

Sel Appa-FAIL are bidding for WC41's CoH, I think, so a bid for WC40's would "only" make 4.

Nope FAIL are bidding by themselves for WC40's CoH, so while there is only one IC host (well, Yafalonia and Bazor 2 are technically 2 nations in one) but there will be 2 OOC Hosts Me and Yafor 2. Seeing as Y&B2 is a joint puppet of ours.

Nope FAIL are bidding by themselves for WC40's CoH, so while there is only one IC host (well, Yafalonia and Bazor 2 are technically 2 nations in one) but there will be 2 OOC Hosts Me and Yafor 2. Seeing as Y&B2 is a joint puppet of ours.

You know, thinking about this got me interested in an interesting little trivia bit...When's the last time somebody (IC) hosted a KPB ranking affecting event solo?

The last one I can think of is Praying2God hosting the CoH way back in the day, but I have a hunch it's happened since (probably in the BoF), but with NS Wiki down I can't go look it up.

You know, thinking about this got me interested in an interesting little trivia bit...When's the last time somebody (IC) hosted a KPB ranking affecting event solo?

The last one I can think of is Praying2God hosting the CoH way back in the day, but I have a hunch it's happened since (probably in the BoF), but with NS Wiki down I can't go look it up.
Starblaydia, in the current BoF; before that, Miceland, in the WC38 BoF.

There was also a CoH that was hosted Solo once... can't remember who or when... though

There was also a CoH that was hosted Solo once... can't remember who or when... though

The first CoH to have dual hosting was the Third, meaning that the first two (three, if you count Tanah Burung's solo-hosting of the predecessor tourney, the Frosty Cup) were hosted alone. Dual hosting disappeared for 4 and 5, and did not become a regular occurrence until CoH 6. 11 was almost entirely solo-hosted, due to computer problems on my part before I scorinated even the first matchday, but the next actual solo host was P2G in 17. Spaam would also deviate from the dual host method in 19. 25 marked a string of solo hosts, which was finally broken by Bos/Baz and Qutar in 29.

Of the solo hosts, however, this would be the first to be a puppet controlled dually by two users to bid (unless I'm missing a System Karela bid somewhere), and if FAIL does not, well, fail, it'd be the first solo host to be, OOCly, dually hosted.


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And while we're on the solo-hosting subject, the World Cups with odd hosting situations:

1-4: all solo-hosted (by Ariddia, AIF, Brazillico, and TnUI respectively. Bonus points if you actually remember who those four actually are)
5: Tanah Burung was scheduled to host with Al Quds, making it the first dual-host cup, only to have the latter cease during qualifying. Hence, TB was essentially a solo host.
6: Solo hosting returns, with Brazillico hosting. Kingsford and Spaam were originally set to host, but neither was able to due to RL issues.
7: Odd in only that it was the first cup to have dual hosting last throughout without incident.
8: Bedistan became the first host to reach the final of his/her own cup.
9: First cup where the hosts faced each other in the Final. Europa Brittania won out over Ravenspire, who claimed to scorinate their own defeat.
11: Warnocks Wizards, bidding with TnUI, became the first host (other than Ariddia, for obvious reasons) to host a cup without having previously qualified for the final before. They would be the eventual runner-ups (note that this is still before KPBs)
16: Brazillico goes inactive during the cup, the first host to do so since 5. Rejis finishes the cup by herself, with TnUI scorinating her matches/group.
19: Turori & TBF co-host, marking the first time a user (Vilitia, who hosted with his main nation in 17) hosted multiple cups with different nations. Led to the current rules limiting a user from hosting more than 1 cup in a three-cup span.
20: Starblaydia, co-hosting with Druidia, becomes the first junior co-host of the BoF (with Vilitia, then the semi-permanent co-host of the BoF) to host a WC.
21: Lethislavania, co-hosting with Cockbill Street, would be the first junior co-host of the BoF to host a WC the cup after their BoF hosting gig.
22: South Osettia became the first co-host to drop out in 6 cups. The true oddity came in the replacement, where LE was joined by the entire opposing bid team, Vilitia and Legalese, in an unprecedented tri-host setup.
28: The Archregimancy, a puppet of AIF, co-hosting with New Montreal States, set the record for the longest time between Cups Hosted by a User, with 26.
34: Ariddia breaks both the user and single-nation records for longest time between hosting Cups, with 33. Amusingly, his co-host this time was AIF, who hosted WC2 (see above)
37: Co-hosts Ad'ihan (71st) & Novapsolu (49th) are the lowest-ranked hosts entering the competition in the KPB era, and the first co-hosts to have both never qualified for a WC final before. (KP & Veph may have beaten this one in 38, I'm not sure).

And while we're on the solo-hosting subject, the World Cups with odd hosting situations:

20: Starblaydia becomes the first nation to co-host the WC (with Druida) having previously co-hosted the BoF as a junior partner (with Vilita for WC17 & 18).

I'm claiming that because the only previous BoF hosts were Kaze Progressa, Rejistania, Commerce Heights, Vilita & Liverpool England - none of which can claim to be 'junior' or 'inexperienced' at the time.



We set the precedent, man! Leth just sped it up.

20: Starblaydia becomes the first nation to co-host the WC (with Druida) having previously co-hosted the BoF as a junior partner (with Vilita for WC17 & 18).

I'm claiming that because the only previous BoF hosts were Kaze Progressa, Rejistania, Commerce Heights, Vilita & Liverpool England - none of which can claim to be 'junior' or 'inexperienced' at the time.



We set the precedent, man! Leth just sped it up.

Fair enough, hence why I had noted with Leth that he was the first to do it the cup after :P

and on that note, at least one co-host in World Cups 20,21,and 22 was previously a junior BoF co-host. 22 has the interesting situation of having two, with SO being replaced (partially) by yours truly.

Actually, I believe that also makes me the first nation to host the BoF (as a junior host) and the WC in the same cycle. Vilitia, Kaze Progressa, and after this cup (likely), Starblaydia are the other three to also host a BoF and a WC in the same cycle, although each was either a single-host or a senior co-host at the time.

And while we're on the solo-hosting subject, the World Cups with odd hosting situations:
28: The Archregimancy, a puppet of AIF, co-hosting with New Montreal States, set the record for the longest time between Cups Hosted by a User, with 26.

Pedantry appears to be insisting that I point out that, in WC28, AIF was OOC'ly signed up as a puppet of the Archregimancy as I wasn't co-ordinating OOC sign-ups with IC nation relationships at that point.

But Legalese's basic point still holds, and for IC reasons the Archregimancy is always signed up as an AIF puppet these days.


While we're on the topic of unusual hosting situations:

CoH 21 (WC29)
Hosted by Alasdair I Frosticus and The Archregimancy
Final: Milchama beat Magnus Valerius 2-0

Are there any other examples of WCC-sanctioned events being co-hosted IC, but hosted by a single OOC user? In other words, any other occasions where the 'co-host' was a puppet of the other host?

CoH 27 (the one that I won) was hosted only by Quakmybush. JSY hosted one alone too, I think (I guess that was the one which Zwangzug won).

In the BoF, there are many recent examples.

While we're on the topic of unusual hosting situations:

CoH 21 (WC29)
Hosted by Alasdair I Frosticus and The Archregimancy
Final: Milchama beat Magnus Valerius 2-0

Are there any other examples of WCC-sanctioned events being co-hosted IC, but hosted by a single OOC user? In other words, any other occasions where the 'co-host' was a puppet of the other host?

Nope, that'd be the first, and for now, only. Unless there's something Star or Kry haven't told us ;)

CoH 27 (the one that I won) was hosted only by Quakmybush. JSY hosted one alone too, I think (I guess that was the one which Zwangzug won).

In the BoF, there are many recent examples.

Like, er, 27....

JSY hosted one alone too, I think (I guess that was the one which Zwangzug won).Indeed! :D The aforementioned 25 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13523647&postcount=3396).

No, there's not really any point to this post, just felt like bragging. :cool:

Edit so this isn't completely meaningless: Vephrall were also ranked 49th before WC38 qualifying. Kura-Pelland, however, were 45th, so Ad'ihan and Novapsolu have the record.

Like, er, 27....

There is also 21 (hosted by Cafundéu), 22 (hosted by Errinundera), 24 (hosted by Sel Appa), 25 (hosted by Miceland).

Nope, that'd be the first, and for now, only. Unless there's something Star or Kry haven't told us ;)

We are in fact a gestalt entity, two minds inhabiting one body. Despite the fact those two minds are around 150 miles apart. :p

And there was much rejoicing throughout Hopeless SC today as Dance 2 Revolution ceased to exist.

Nothing personal against D2R. For those of you that don't remember our teams had an incident in my WC debut (in WC 38) where their captain ended the career of my star forward.
Reminds me of the Qutar match in 32 and Ad'ihan match in 39...

Nope FAIL are bidding by themselves for WC40's CoH, so while there is only one IC host (well, Yafalonia and Bazor 2 are technically 2 nations in one) but there will be 2 OOC Hosts Me and Yafor 2. Seeing as Y&B2 is a joint puppet of ours.
Joint puppet...

22: South Osettia became the first co-host to drop out in 6 cups. The true oddity came in the replacement, where LE was joined by the entire opposing bid team, Vilitia and Legalese, in an unprecedented tri-host setup.
Ah, there is a precedent.

Voting for World Cup 40 hosts is now officially closed.

And the results are...

Starblaydia and Krytenia - 12 (26.7%)
Reopen bids - 3 (6.7%)
(1 abstention)

Starblaydia and Krytenia will be the hosts of World Cup 40!

Voting for World Cup 40 hosts is now officially closed.

And the results are...

Starblaydia and Krytenia - 12 (26.7%)
Reopen bids - 3 (6.7%)
(1 abstention)

Starblaydia and Krytenia will be the hosts of World Cup 40!

I assume that % is out of 45 eligible voters :p

Is this where we throw purple confetti in the air and wave flags about?

Congratulations!

1-4: all solo-hosted (by Ariddia, AIF, Brazillico, and TnUI respectively. Bonus points if you actually remember who those four actually are)

Ooo!!! Bonus points for me then!:D



No, I wasn't actually playing back then, but I've played in WC's with all of them at some point.



ETA: Now where's that pre-WC thread...I've got an announcement to make. :-P

In other news, I will be away starting this Sunday, 16 March and will return on Thursday 20 March. For that four-day period, all presidential duties will be left in the capable paws of our vice-president, Casari.

Ooo!!! Bonus points for me then!:D



No, I wasn't actually playing back then, but I've played in WC's with all of them at some point.



ETA: Now where's that pre-WC thread...I've got an announcement to make. :-P

I know who Ariddia is so I get a 1/4th of a bonus right? As for the other 3, i read about them in the Wiki, when it was up, so a get half credit for that right? leaving me with either 3/4ths of a bonus ok?

Voting for World Cup 40 hosts is now officially closed.

And the results are...

Starblaydia and Krytenia - 12 (26.7%)
Reopen bids - 3 (6.7%)
(1 abstention)

Starblaydia and Krytenia will be the hosts of World Cup 40!

WTG StarKry(TM)

StarKry(TM)owned by Qazox.

In other news, I will be away starting this Sunday, 16 March and will return on Thursday 20 March. For that four-day period, all presidential duties will be left in the capable paws of our vice-president, Casari.

Oh dear God!

In other news, I will be away starting this Sunday, 16 March and will return on Thursday 20 March. For that four-day period, all presidential duties will be left in the capable paws of our vice-president, Casari.

Since when I was capable of anything, other than running when my little wheel?

Since when I was capable of anything, other than running when my little wheel?

Since we changed the sawdust, obviously

Wait... FOUR days? We'll need another old fart in IRC to entertain us then :p

Since when I was capable of anything, other than running when my little wheel?

I suppose this wasn't you then...

http://witze.net/funpics/hamster_with_gun.jpg

Star?

Is there any Standings for the BoF?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

I suppose this wasn't you then...

http://witze.net/funpics/hamster_with_gun.jpg

That's not Cas. The gun's too small. :p

This is creepy. I personally know the person to whom that hand belongs O_o

Pfft, when you're as cute as me, you don't need to be armed.

And you never change my sawdust, that's the problem.

This is creepy. I personally know the person to whom that hand belongs O_o

A likely story. But, it wouldn't surprise me. Someone has to know them...

Pfft, when you're as cute as me, you don't need to be armed.

And you never change my sawdust, that's the problem.

Hmm, I think I've narrowed it to three different selections:

(1)

http://www.maniacworld.com/Hamster-Video-Game-Maze.jpg

(2)

http://therawfeed.com/pix/hamster.jpg

(3)

http://www.greenandhot.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/hamster.jpg

I'm personally going for #1, but #3 might be more realistic.

And if you're an Opus fan:

http://www.berkeleybreathed.com/Images/hamster-GRAB_1.jpg

Star?

Is there any Standings for the BoF?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

No, you've all played 0 games and have 0 stats for everything.

Of course there are bloody tables, I just didn't have time to make 'em. I'm sure you can survive one Matchday.

Or perhaps get some bonus points for figuring them out yourself!

Good one Dae! :)

No, you've all played 0 games and have 0 stats for everything.

Of course there are bloody tables, I just didn't have time to make 'em. I'm sure you can survive one Matchday.

Or perhaps get some bonus points for figuring them out yourself!

No we can't not one match day. We're stupid impatient ignorant green newbies, how can we survive.

Heck I hope you don't do it for the rest of the tournament until the knockouts, it'll add to the 'suspense' if you can get suspense in the BoF.

"Surprise! The first round was just a joke. I'm just messing with you. Everyone's in the knockout round, I'll now draw the pairs out of this here top hat..."

Actually that sounds more like the Sesquipedalianist National Football League to be honest :P

http://www.greenandhot.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/hamster.jpg
I gotta get me one of those.

Joint puppet...

Yus. The second in NS sports history, after System Karela.

It'd be cool, but you could only go in two directions in that thing.

It'd be cool, but you could only go in two directions in that thing.

And stopping on a downhill slope would be very entertaining ... :p

I'm sure it's possible to turn slowly...

Hmm, I think I've narrowed it to three different selections:

(1)

http://www.maniacworld.com/Hamster-Video-Game-Maze.jpg



Where did you get a pic of Cas, Daehan? Stalking the WCC President is a -50 KBP ranking offense...lol

Back to the business at hand:

Star/Kry? When possibly will the World Cup start?

Whooah, hold your horses the BoF hasn't even finished yet

Where did you get a pic of Cas, Daehan? Stalking the WCC President is a -50 KBP ranking offense...lol

and Cas is only the VP which co-incidently has a +50 KPB bonus

and Cas is only the VP which co-incidently has a +50 KPB bonus

Well he is ACTING president for the moment.. so -15 KPB rank then. ;)

Whooah, hold your horses the BoF hasn't even finished yet

I'm with Qazox on this one. It'd be nice to have an estimate when the WC will start. Of course, it'd also be nice if we could get a pre-WC RP thread so people can start chipping in RPs when they get the time.

Back to the business at hand:

Star/Kry? When possibly will the World Cup start?

The BoF hasn't even got out of the group stage yet! One more Matchday, then four knockout matches (2nd Rd, QF, SF and Finals). Tell you what, the Pre-Cup thread will go up after the BoF Groups have completed, giving you pretty much a full working week to get any pre-cup posts in.

I'm with Qazox on this one. It'd be nice to have an estimate when the WC will start. Of course, it'd also be nice if we could get a pre-WC RP thread so people can start chipping in RPs when they get the time.

Perhaps, but for now, sit back, relax... kick up your feet and enjoy today's huge Newmanistan - Sesquipedalianist BoF match. Because who knows the clubs may be World Cup finalists one year. ;)

I know who Ariddia is so I get a 1/4th of a bonus right? As for the other 3, i read about them in the Wiki, when it was up, so a get half credit for that right? leaving me with either 3/4ths of a bonus ok?

One would have thought that you wouldn't need to just read about me in the Wiki, Qaz, especially since I've co-hosted a WC with this nation (with Ariddia) that you've participated in, and have (I think) fielded an AIF team in every WC you've participated in. Surely that gets you a half bonus.

Anyway, I obviously get the full bonus Legalese was offering since I don't just remember Ariddia, Brazillico and TnUI, I am the fourth nation listed, and (using this account) I'm the last WC-active nation left to have participated in those first four World Cups. A fact which I of course bore all of you with at every available opportunity.

The heavy, awful, dread dead weight of history is going to be a major part of AIF RP this forthcoming 40th World Cup....


O sages standing in God's holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity

Perhaps, but for now, sit back, relax... kick up your feet and enjoy today's huge Newmanistan - Sesquipedalianist BoF match. Because who knows the clubs may be World Cup finalists one year. ;)

Aye it's going to be a wild one ;)

Are any of the WC 40 threads created yet (i.e. roster)?

Perhaps, but for now, sit back, relax... kick up your feet and enjoy today's huge Newmanistan - Sesquipedalianist BoF match. Because who knows the clubs may be World Cup finalists one year. ;)

Show off... Every team getting RPed there may end high in coming world cups ;)

I just came out of hibernation to discover that I still have a NS account!! Hooray!! Underwear, dry gin, and springtime! HOORAY!

The BoF hasn't even got out of the group stage yet! One more Matchday, then four knockout matches (2nd Rd, QF, SF and Finals). Tell you what, the Pre-Cup thread will go up after the BoF Groups have completed, giving you pretty much a full working week to get any pre-cup posts in.

Are any of the WC 40 threads created yet (i.e. roster)?

See above :)

Ey Star, no table yet? ;)

Ey Star, no table yet? ;)

No tables, but three fucking finished magazines and two hours of overtime. I'll come back to it after dinner.

The BoF hasn't even got out of the group stage yet! One more Matchday, then four knockout matches (2nd Rd, QF, SF and Finals). Tell you what, the Pre-Cup thread will go up after the BoF Groups have completed, giving you pretty much a full working week to get any pre-cup posts in.
Just make sure you clearly post a link here. Something like:

SEL YOU BLIND IDIOT! HERE IS THE LINK!

Where did you get a pic of Cas, Daehan? Stalking the WCC President is a -50 KBP ranking offense...lol

You have no idea what sort of can of worms (or in my case, crickets) you've unleashed.

WC40 will be a memorable one. WATCH OUT PAPARAZZI!

Just wondering if it would be corrected to assume that in the knockout stage of the Baptism of Fire, it would be 1st place Group Eagle against 8th place Group Lion. Or do you do something differenty? I want to make sure I write up my game preview with us against the proper opponent.

Whooah, hold your horses the BoF hasn't even finished yet

I only asked, beacuse a very serious RL issue might come up within the next couple of weeks, and 1- hopefully it doesn't happen, and 2, hopefully i'll be able to participate in the WC.

One would have thought that you wouldn't need to just read about me in the Wiki, Qaz, especially since I've co-hosted a WC with this nation (with Ariddia) that you've participated in, and have (I think) fielded an AIF team in every WC you've participated in. Surely that gets you a half bonus.

I humbly apologize for just skimming the post, and not fully reading it. So I get 7/8th credit then right? I know Ariddia and AIF and has read about the other 2.

SEL YOU BLIND IDIOT! HERE IS THE LINK!

Like, yeah (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552078), man.

TNUI was still around when we first started up Qazox. in fact i was in TNUI's group- think they were #10ish at the time. got a draw with them at home in the second time we played in the qualifiers-which made one of Tynelia's top ten WC moments in our tenth WC anniversary threads when i really had to go searching to find anything of note. think they only stayed a few cups after that though.

only one i don't recall is Brazilco.

Like, yeah (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552078), man.

Uhm. Why aren't you putting it in "white"? Because we all know that if you put it in white, everyone is going to read it. Besides that, there are people who are color-blind and need the good comfort of reading it in black and white!!! And yeah, this is all in white, just to prove my point. :D

What was the point of that blank post, Dae?

Now you must wonder - did I even read that or not?

:p

Like, yeah (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552078), man.
I almost missed that...

What was the point of that blank post, Dae?

Now you must wonder - did I even read that or not?

:p

Given your response, I'd have to say "yes". All you had to do was write a blank reply. :p

Again with the blank posts!

I enjoy typing in white...:D

I'm sure other people appreciate white posts. NOT!

Enough already!

I'm out of my own Turtle Cup. :(

Sel:

AND THAT IS SHOCKING HOW?

Now you know how I feel. 0-5 in my own tourney.

Sel:

AND THAT IS SHOCKING HOW?

Now you know how I feel. 0-5 in my own tourney.
Did you deny yourself RP Bonus? Did you even give RP Bonus? Maybe I shouldn't have, but it helps me practice for real stuff...

Did you deny yourself RP Bonus? Did you even give RP Bonus? Maybe I shouldn't have, but it helps me practice for real stuff...

Yep, No RP bonus for me, and Yes I gave RP bonus to others. But what killed me was not putting in any thing in for "Home field advantage", though in 4 of them, it wouldbn't have mattered. (If i did have that factored in, I would have won the First one.)

Oxen Cup, Part 6 will return after the Group Stage is complete at the World Cup.

Yep, No RP bonus for me, and Yes I gave RP bonus to others. But what killed me was not putting in any thing in for "Home field advantage", though in 4 of them, it wouldbn't have mattered. (If i did have that factored in, I would have won the First one.)

Oxen Cup, Part 6 will return after the Group Stage is complete at the World Cup.

And the Turtle Cup will fill in when you don't want to or can't or we work out some deal. Every now and then, I might ask to do it. I don't think we hould compete against eachother. Hell, maybe an Oxen-Turtle Cup!

And the Turtle Cup will fill in when you don't want to or can't or we work out some deal. Every now and then, I might ask to do it. I don't think we hould compete against eachother. Hell, maybe an Oxen-Turtle Cup!

Maybe, though we've have to fill the Cup with Alice in Wonderland references.

Well, I guess I CAN'T have 2 puppets win the BoF now. Unless I try again next time out....hmmmm;)

Well, I guess I CAN'T have 2 puppets win the BoF now. Unless I try again next time out....hmmmm;)

The kids can adopt Newmanistan now! We'll give them free T-Shirts! ;)

Well, I guess I CAN'T have 2 puppets win the BoF now. Unless I try again next time out....hmmmm;)

With the way you were RPing compared to most of the other teams now in the Quarter Finals, you never had a chance anyway.

Hey, not to ring the old "are we there yet" bell, but is there an ETA on the qualifying group draw yet? I'd love to join you guys on IRC for that again, provided I find a decent wireless connection. Cough.

With the way you were RPing compared to most of the other teams now in the Quarter Finals, you never had a chance anyway.

Now Star, don't tell me I need to start giving you of all people lectures on the basic naughtiness of hosts making unsolicited criticisms of RP quality.

Dr. Reg doesn't approve, you know...

<wags finger sternly>

Now Star, don't tell me I need to start giving you of all people lectures on the basic naughtiness of hosts making unsolicited criticisms of RP quality.

Dr. Reg doesn't approve, you know...

<wags finger sternly>

Oh, the quality had nothing to do with it. Simply comparing it to the basic scores earned by the frequency, length and use of other sources (other team's rosters, RPs, referees, etc) displayed by many still in the competition, and Eighthgraderistan didn't have a prayer.




84 + hosts is looking like a good number for twelve groups of seven, so when Kry's next on (which I would imagine would be later this evening), we'll get a proper plan sorted.

OFFICIAL WORLD CUP 40 ANNOUNCEMENT

The BoF is still in progress.

Signups are still open.

Easter is this weekend.

The World Cup Draw will not be taking place for at least a week.

Return to your homes and places of business.
You are free to do as we tell you.

84 + hosts is looking like a good number for twelve groups of seven, so when Kry's next on (which I would imagine would be later this evening), we'll get a proper plan sorted.

No bye days. Please no.

No bye days. Please no.
Go find six more teams; then you won’t have to worry about it. :p

Go find six more teams; then you won’t have to worry about it. :p

I'll see what I can do.

Go find six more teams; then you won’t have to worry about it. :p

Oh, I can make 6 new teams :p

With the way you were RPing compared to most of the other teams now in the Quarter Finals, you never had a chance anyway.

Well it was the point to have horrid RPs.

and Daehan, Go right ahead.

Happy Vernal Equinox everybody!!

(For the laypersons in the audience: Spring is Here!) :p

Well it was the point to have horrid RPs.

Oh, the quality had nothing to do with it. Simply comparing it to the basic scores earned by the frequency, length and use of other sources (other team's rosters, RPs, referees, etc) displayed by many still in the competition, and Eighthgraderistan didn't have a prayer.

The eighth-grade lack of being able to spell/use grammar was taken into account as as far as quality went - I'm aware of how it reflects the team's ages, etc, Eighthgraderistan simply didn't score, bonus-wise, anywhere near as highly as Newmanistan, K&TT, Nethertopia, Sesquipedalithingy, Terreiro de Ogum, East Antairees, etc...

12 group of 7? No Good.

14 groups of 6? Brilliant!

15 games: One home, one away, and one neutral. Top 2 go through. Best two non-qualifiers go through. Easy as pie. And no byes.

The eighth-grade lack of being able to spell/use grammar was taken into account as as far as quality went - I'm aware of how it reflects the team's ages, etc, Eighthgraderistan simply didn't score, bonus-wise, anywhere near as highly as Newmanistan, K&TT, Nethertopia, Sesquipedalithingy, Terreiro de Ogum, East Antairees, etc...

Predicted BoF final: K&TT 3 : Newmanistan 2.

Btw, our country is honored being in that list of fine BoF countries ;)

15 games: One home, one away, and one neutral. Top 2 go through. Best two non-qualifiers go through. Easy as pie. And no byes.

Neutral games? You didn't listen to the uproar about the Premierships' 39th Game debate, did you? That's a whole new can of hosting worms that I'm not planning on opening.

And what's so bad about byes, anyway?

In my opinion byes aren't really part of football, but i don't mind them. It gives the "team" a rest. And what's so bad about being one game behind or ahead of someone? All the teams will end up at the same number of games anyway...

For RL international tournament qualifying, having matches where one nation can't or doesn't play a match (not specifically 'bye' weeks, but similar in this context) is fairly essential, with domestic league scheduling and which games the managers want to play where and when all coming in to play.

For NS, it's just a way to make uneven groups work out correctly - plus it gives a rest-day for RPing, or an opportunity for friendlies, overviews, non-football related items or whatever. I don't mind Bye matchdays at all.

Can anyone tell I'm leaving work for a four-and-a-half day weekend in just half an hour? :D

Btw, our country is honored being in that list of fine BoF countries ;)

I hope we (top BoF countries) all stay in this for the long haul. While we're all competing now, we can create some good rivalries with each other as we all try to climb this ladder.

Happy Vernal Equinox everybody!!

(For the laypersons in the audience: Spring is Here!) :p

Not in São Paulo... here we welcome the arrival of Autumn.

I hope we (top BoF countries) all stay in this for the long haul. While we're all competing now, we can create some good rivalries with each other as we all try to climb this ladder.

Well, it's just too bad our two countries haven't met on the field yet. I think it's a pity that i haven't played any Group Eagle nations at all... I would've loved playing againt your country, Wijaska Island and Terreiro de Ogum...

Predicted BoF final: K&TT 3 : Newmanistan 2.

Btw, our country is honored being in that list of fine BoF countries ;)

Wow your so kind but I disagree I find Newman's RPing to be far too much for me even if I make the final, but if I do I look forward to playing either Newman or Terrio. Also I agree with Newman I know I'm here for the long run that is until the Exams kick in.

I'm actually quite happy i got kicked out of the tournament. I'm having my first tentam tomorrow...

Happy Vernal Equinox everybody!!

(For the laypersons in the audience: Spring is Here!) :p
And Sel Appan New Years! Happy New Year from Sel Appa.

Neutral games? You didn't listen to the uproar about the Premierships' 39th Game debate, did you? That's a whole new can of hosting worms that I'm not planning on opening.

And what's so bad about byes, anyway?
They're annoying and downright confusing. Not to mention quite messy. They should be avoided at all costs.

Announcing a new version of NSFS (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/nsfootysim.html)!

v2.0.4 (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/nsfs/nsfs204.zip) (2008-03-20)
Attempting to use a team with a negative point-based rank resulted in:
All of its matches ending in a 0-0 draw (with draws enabled)
The program hanging (with draws disabled). Technically, a neverending penalty shootout was taking place.
Instead, the program will now give an error message if you attempt to do this.
Fixed a bug that caused away teams to be unable to score in a penalty shootout when using point-based ranks.

Sorry, but...Best two non-qualifiers go through.The best two non-qualifiers...qualify?! :p

Is 90 all that better though? 10 groups of 9 still has bye days, 15 of 6 is...differently interesting, 6 of 15 borders on the insane (although some of us border it from, er, the other side), and I should probably be unilaterally opposed to 9 of 10 under the circumstances. ;)

One giant group of everyone. We can have several matchdays at once...

I'm happy with something different. Yay different!

One giant group of everyone.

A Swiss system? (Come on, Casari, you missed your cue! :p)