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The Archregimancy
05-02-2008, 17:31
Just for clarification's sake, let me give three examples of potential comments about other nations that might be made in the discussion thread:

1 - clearly acceptable: "Sel Appa's criticism of the hosts is unwarranted and ill-informed"

2 - clearly acceptable: "I strongly object that the Archregimancy's RP completely ignored all of my RP instructions when he burned my stadium to the ground, murdered my entire team, and had terrorists explode a nuclear device in my capital city, slaughtering untold millions"

3 - more worrying: "God, Eighthgraderistan writes crap RPs, doesn't he?"

Hopefully the difference is fairly clear.
Dancougar
05-02-2008, 17:31
Anybody have any extra rubber chickens they can send my way? I seem to need to make a huge sacrifice just to win a match in the World Cup.:mad:

Highly scientific experiments in the Kingdom of Dancougar have apparently confirmed that symbolic rubber chickens do not please Margaret. So you probably shouldn't come to us.

Of course, that does not in any way indicate that we're going to stop trying. Pattern recognition be damned! It's far more fun to find strange ways to use the rubber we have available in concert with existing chickens than to actually use it as intended.
Az-cz
05-02-2008, 17:51
A second issue is whether everyone is capable of making the same effort. Clearly they aren't, which is why I'm uncomfortable with commenting on RP quality (as opposed to content).

Of course people can't all give the same effort. There will always be IRL commitments that limit people's time and energy to RP. But that's just the way it goes. I don't see the relevance of that to commenting on the RPs.

Surely the important thing is that Taeshan, for example, is enjoying himself?

Some what. Enjoyment of the writer is a benefit sure, but more important is enjoyment of everybody else. My understanding of why we want to encourage RPs is that the cup is more fun for everyone and that the RP bonus is designed to encourage people to write good RPs that other people can benefit from. As such I don't think it's wrong for ESF and CH to give little to no RP bonus to people like Hopeless or Taeshan and I don't see what the problem with telling them that they're not getting much RP bonus is.

I think the biggest point of concern is offending someone, but I don't believe ESF did such in this case. And if that was the concern I don't think it should be limited to just the hosts. I don't think there's anything special about hosting that should prevent you from making comments about the quality of people's RPs.
Candelaria And Marquez
05-02-2008, 17:53
3 - more worrying: "God, Eighthgraderistan writes crap RPs, doesn't he?"



That said, Eighthgraderistan should really be someone's puppet at the next World Cup. The 40s need a new The Non-RPing n00b.
Qazox
05-02-2008, 20:52
I didn't purposefully attempt to cast aspersions on any nation's RPing skill, style, length, content, context or syntax. If it appears to that nation that I have, I'd like to apologize for doing so.

That set aside... I agree with Arch in that HOSTS should not in any way criticise any RPing at all.
Qazox
05-02-2008, 20:56
BTW: Eighthgraderistan.... Has been claimed.
Daehanjeiguk
05-02-2008, 21:13
Come on you people! Be more adventurous! Be - dare I say - more Asian?

When parents come home and you got a 99%, they'll slap you hard and complain about how you didn't get a 100%.

When parents come home and you got a 100$, they'll still slap you hard and complain about how you didn't get more than that.

When parents talk to your teachers, they always expect to hear horror stories about you. That the teacher is smiling is just a prelude to "Your child is a %$#&ing idiot."


But seriously. People should handle a little bit of criticism. I'd love some criticism sometimes, because if you never fix what's wrong, you never get better. And of course, there's a bad way to tell someone something and there's a right way. Chances are if you're telling someone something sincere, it's the right way to say it (unless you sincerely believe that Elmo is the patron saint of TGI Fridays, in which case I might suggest a good hospital to visit).

Personally, I find nothing wrong with what ESF said. I find nothing wrong with what the Archregimancy. I find nothing wrong with what anyone said (except Bostopia... but that's because I like you :fluffle:), so on account of making everyone happy, just chill!


FYI, Try graduating another year :D
Casari
05-02-2008, 21:42
You know, if you wrote your complaints in an RP, and posted it in the RP thread, you might get a bonus for it instead of repeating every argument ever (I can SENSE that why-we-have-RP-bonus one coming up in the next page, it's a skill) in this thread.
Daehanjeiguk
05-02-2008, 21:57
You know, if you wrote your complaints in an RP, and posted it in the RP thread, you might get a bonus for it instead of repeating every argument ever (I can SENSE that why-we-have-RP-bonus one coming up in the next page, it's a skill) in this thread.

You know what? I think I will write an RP using only fluffles! Thanks for the suggestion!
Bostopia
05-02-2008, 21:57
I find nothing wrong with what anyone said (except Bostopia... but that's because I like you :I'VENEVERBEENINRAINBOWSANDYOUCAN'TPROVEANYTHINGITWASTHEBIRTHDAYOFAGIRLWHOISBIANYWAYANDIPROMISEDHERI 'DGOOUTWHOOPSDIDISAYTHATOUTLOUD?: )

You don't like what I said because you like me? :p
Daehanjeiguk
05-02-2008, 22:02
You don't like what I said because you like me? :p

What? You never ate me lucky charms?
The Pazhujeb Islands
05-02-2008, 22:02
With all due respect, Reg, Eighthgraderistan really does write crap RPs. If I was the host I would give him a negative RP bonus, report him to the mods and find out who he is IRL and burn down his house.

I think the biggest point of concern is offending someone, but I don't believe ESF did such in this case. And if that was the concern I don't think it should be limited to just the hosts. I don't think there's anything special about hosting that should prevent you from making comments about the quality of people's RPs.

Az-cz, I know I'm kind a noob to be disagreeing with you (and I don't even 100% disagree with you, you're partially right), but for me the problem is that the hosts are essentially representing the whole NSWC community for their cycle, and if they start trashing people's RP styles publicly it sets a horrendous precedent for everyone else. I don't think ESF offended anyone either, but when you start spreading rhetoric about what types of RPs are preferable to others you're on slope towards limiting people's RP creativity, which to me would be the worst thing anyone could do. ESF is completely within his rights to give anyone absolutely anyone no bonus or a huge bonus based on his own subjective opinion, that's the privilege one gets for being the host. It just seems dangerous to start laying out a class syllabus, as it were, for what's a good RP and what isn't.
Bostopia
05-02-2008, 22:13
What? You never ate me lucky charms?

I'm significantly confused.
Daehanjeiguk
05-02-2008, 22:19
I'm significantly confused.

Thank you, and in honor of your contributions to the Joyce E. Joy Foundation, here's a coffee mug!
The Pazhujeb Islands
05-02-2008, 22:29
Speaking of crude and inappropriate RPs worthy of genuine protest on part of the hosts... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13424918&postcount=269)
The Archregimancy
05-02-2008, 22:36
I think it's worth gently pointing out that, while we're all busy trying to be terribly civilised about this in so far as is possible, at no point did Hopeless SC solicit an opinion about his RP style or bring his RPs into debate.

So the opinion offered as to Hopeless SC's RP contribution was entirely unsolicited (in this forum, anyway), and therefore at least mildly gratuitous.

But just to prove that I think you're all a swell bunch of guys and gals, even when I think you're heretics talking out of your arses...

:fluffle:

See. I love you too.

Now let's all have a group hug.
Acapais
05-02-2008, 22:51
hugging is nice
The Pazhujeb Islands
05-02-2008, 22:53
hugging is nice

So are gorditas. Mmm. Gorditas.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/d/df/20070102234535!Gordita.jpg
Sorthern Northland
05-02-2008, 22:56
So are gorditas. Mmm. Gorditas.



I'll take the hug thanks.
Jeruselem
06-02-2008, 00:18
Attention Doctor Reg!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13422938&postcount=242

Please reply :p
Taeshan
06-02-2008, 00:19
Taeshan announced today that president 13 year old Ricky zellefrow has gone on a hiatus and is totally not listening and will of course not take a prejudice against ESF or anyone against my rps. The 20ish members of the national team are totally rioting, and for some reason vice pres laura smaleken has killed her self. Hmm how can you not think booing komekong so much that they were so razzled we killed them is a cool rp.
Jeruselem
06-02-2008, 01:29
It looks like double/triple post time again. :confused:
Eighthgraderistan
06-02-2008, 04:25
Confirming the existance of Eighthgraderistan as the new puppet of Qazox, starting at World Cup XL.
The Pazhujeb Islands
06-02-2008, 04:36
Confirming the existance of Eighthgraderistan as the new puppet of Qazox, starting at World Cup XL.

Your RPs are awesome, Eighthgraderistan. :)
Sel Appa
06-02-2008, 05:25
I think we need to be very careful about criticising RP styles in this or any other thread.

There may be any number of reasons why some nations choose certain styles over others. We should also be aware that given the broad demographic of participants, not every nation may be able to - or would want to - engage in long satirical digressions or bastardisations of the poetry of 20th-century Irish poets. If Taeshan or Hopeless SC currently have a more straightforward approach to their RPs, then we should embrace the fact that they're participating in the current tournament in the hope that coming tournaments will see an expanded level of participation rather than implicitly or explicitly criticise their style. We don't want to discourage participation by demeaning RP contributions.

From that perspective, I'm slightly disappointed that one of our hosts has seen fit to criticise the RPing style of a WC participant.

Hopeless SC's apparent complaint (which, frowny face aside, was fairly jokey) is an old one, and a standard response along the lines of 'it's just random numbers' would surely have been more appropriate than criticising his RP style, especially given the subjective nature of judging RP content and the age-old dispute in this thread (including its predecessor) over how important RPs should be.

There's also the danger that a host criticising RPs could be seen as partial in judging the subjective nature of RP quality, and as preferring a particular RP style.

By all means criticise idiotic things that a nation might say in the discussion thread, but criticising RP style? Unless a nation is clearly being gratuitously offensive and disruptive - which isn't the case here - that's very slippery ground indeed.

I have to agree with Arch here. He warned me about this during my BoF with Taeshan in it. His RPs may be silly and stupid and immature, but at least he's trying and I certainly gave him credit for that. There are plenty of people who don't even RP at all.

Also, don't criticize people while the Cup is on. It's just improper at the least.

That said, Eighthgraderistan should really be someone's puppet at the next World Cup. The 40s need a new The Non-RPing n00b.

I second that.

With all due respect, Reg, Eighthgraderistan really does write crap RPs. If I was the host I would give him a negative RP bonus, report him to the mods and find out who he is IRL and burn down his house.
Why? At least he's trying. He should get some credit, regardless of the quality. Unless it's blatantly offensive or obscene, I see no reason for negative RP bonus. That shouldn't even be possible.
Bazalonia
06-02-2008, 05:56
Speaking of crude and inappropriate RPs worthy of genuine protest on part of the hosts... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13424918&postcount=269)

I OBJECT!

Homeless people in Bazalonia do not wear turbans!
Prux
06-02-2008, 05:56
Hey I got a question for the hosts?

Shouldn't PRUX be ahead of Rugiero on GD or Goals Scored?

4 Rugiero 6 2 2 2 4 6 −2 8
5 Prux 6 2 2 2 12 12 0 8

Just wondering thanks.
Bazalonia
06-02-2008, 05:58
I think it's worth gently pointing out that, while we're all busy trying to be terribly civilised about this in so far as is possible, at no point did Hopeless SC solicit an opinion about his RP style or bring his RPs into debate.

So the opinion offered as to Hopeless SC's RP contribution was entirely unsolicited (in this forum, anyway), and therefore at least mildly gratuitous.

But just to prove that I think you're all a swell bunch of guys and gals, even when I think you're heretics talking out of your arses...

:fluffle:

See. I love you too.

Now let's all have a group hug.

You're not going to get a hug from me...

*mumbles something about 'pommie bas****'*
Eighthgraderistan
06-02-2008, 06:05
With all due respect, Reg, Eighthgraderistan really does write crap RPs. If I was the host I would give him a negative RP bonus, report him to the mods and find out who he is IRL and burn down his house.



Hey I just got created and people are taking potshots at me... :upyours:

BTW TPI, Eighthgraderistan hasn't RP'ed anything yet, so how can you judge my RP's on the basis of NOTHING?
Qazox
06-02-2008, 06:22
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to me :)
Elves Security Forces
06-02-2008, 06:25
Hey I got a question for the hosts?

Shouldn't PRUX be ahead of Rugiero on GD or Goals Scored?

4 Rugiero 6 2 2 2 4 6 −2 8
5 Prux 6 2 2 2 12 12 0 8

Just wondering thanks.


looks like a few zeros didn't make it into the code, anyways, it's fixed now.
Hopeless SC
06-02-2008, 09:20
This is what I get for checking the forums late at night. I should have strictly left the comment I made in this thread in my RP as an observation, which was really how it was intended. At least, I should have left the angry face off the end.

My style of RPs in this WC is actually a bit of a spin off of something that I remember somebody doing waaaaay back when I was using my original nation, with the RPs being like a kid writing home from school.

I certainly didn't intend to create a controversy with my comments last night. I know that this is purely for fun, and that my defensive style doesn't lead to many goals (or apparently wins). I actually find it amusing that both my goals came against Bettia, the top ranked team in my group.
The Archregimancy
06-02-2008, 13:00
Attention Doctor Reg!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13422938&postcount=242

Please reply :p

Don't worry - plan on making this tonight's RP focus now that I've kicked the Pazhujebi voodoo atheists out of my God-fearing realm.
Kura-Pelland
06-02-2008, 13:36
Good on you for RPing, Hopeless SC. I actually thought all along that yours were neat in a short-and-witty manner. My own RPs haven't been that long of late, reliant instead on cramming in interesting references on a theme (keep looking for that!).

Taeshan tries. It's hard for him. It shows. Ditto Lovisa.

(I seriously did not mean to write it quite that way but it does work...)

By contrast, there is of course the loquaciousness of The Archregimancy and Candelaria And Marquez (and in eras past, Lemmitania), who will always make those nations look a little inadequate rightly or wrongly simply by producing long and eloquent posts.

For what it's worth - every RP should lead to RP bonus, better RPs should lead to more RP bonus, and the RP bonus should be sufficient to act as an incentive (or perhaps more accurately enough to not cause despair in actively-RPing noobs) but not to act as the sole incentive.

I'm still not sure if I pulled it off in 38.
Candelaria And Marquez
06-02-2008, 13:59
I like Taeshan's RPs. Genuinely. Seriously people, e e cummings. He's gonna be huge. Just be thankful you'll have the opportunity to say "I knew him when..." in a few years time.



By contrast, there is of course the loquaciousness of Candelaria And Marquez

The words you're looking for are 'unnecessary waffling'. :)
Candelaria And Marquez
06-02-2008, 14:21
They are so versatile, though.
Sorthern Northland
06-02-2008, 14:21
Unessacery waffles? (http://www.fallensouffle.com/uploaded_images/IMG_9764-713601.JPG)
Bazalonia
06-02-2008, 14:33
Unessacery waffles? (http://www.fallensouffle.com/uploaded_images/IMG_9764-713601.JPG)

Waffles are never unnecessary!
Dancougar
06-02-2008, 14:33
Waffles are NEVER unnecessary.

Mmmmm. Waffles.
Sorthern Northland
06-02-2008, 15:00
Very true.

Mind you American style waffles don't look to appealing to me.

'Mon the British style of waffle. :)
Bostopia
06-02-2008, 15:17
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to me :)

Happy Birthday Qaz!
Az-cz
06-02-2008, 18:01
Good on you for RPing, Hopeless SC. I actually thought all along that yours were neat in a short-and-witty manner. My own RPs haven't been that long of late, reliant instead on cramming in interesting references on a theme (keep looking for that!).

I agree. And my RPs haven't been that good recently either. I'm not saying he shouldn't RP or that his RPs have been horrible. But it's fair to say that they aren't the kind of RP that will get a big bonus.



Taeshan tries. It's hard for him. It shows. Ditto Lovisa.

I'm not trying to pick on Taeshan here, but it's unfair to compare him to Lovisa. If I understand correctly Taeshan's first language is English. And there are somethings that any speaker of English ought to be able to do correctly. Like capitalize the beginning of sentences and use periods and what not. No one's asking him to write with perfect Strunk & White style but spelling and punctuation and capitalization are relevant things. If he wants help with that I'm sure he could find it easily enough. If he TGs me I'd be willing to help him on those things. But it seems mostly to be a lack of effort and caring more than anything else.



For what it's worth - every RP should lead to RP bonus, better RPs should lead to more RP bonus, and the RP bonus should be sufficient to act as an incentive (or perhaps more accurately enough to not cause despair in actively-RPing noobs) but not to act as the sole incentive.

I agree with you here as well. I think Taeshand and Hopeless SC should get RP bonus. Just neither of them should expect to get that much. And as such I just don't get the problem with ESF telling them that.
Bostopia
06-02-2008, 18:25
As I said on IRC last night, we don't know the personal circumstances of everyone on NS.

Disabilities? Maybe. Lack of effort? Maybe.

Putting SOME effort into an RP (Taeshan's latest RP shows a willingness to attempt to improve in my eyes, as all can see it is very much different from previous RPs) should be rewarded, even with 0.0001 of a bonus.

What's most disappointing is that it seems that some people around here only seem to RP for the bonus and wanting to win an online game's not-even-official-sub-competition, not for the enjoyment of RPing.

And like I said, we don't know personal circumstances, so I won't be naming names, or engaging in any arguments on the matter.

Get over it, get on with the WC.
The Archregimancy
06-02-2008, 20:03
I'm not trying to pick on Taeshan here, but it's unfair to compare him to Lovisa. If I understand correctly Taeshan's first language is English. And there are somethings that any speaker of English ought to be able to do correctly. Like capitalize the beginning of sentences and use periods and what not. No one's asking him to write with perfect Strunk & White style but spelling and punctuation and capitalization are relevant things. If he wants help with that I'm sure he could find it easily enough. If he TGs me I'd be willing to help him on those things. But it seems mostly to be a lack of effort and caring more than anything else.


Az, with respect, you're being dangerously presumptuous and unnecessarily judgemental. Unless there's been an IRC discussion I'm unaware of, you know nothing about Taeshan's background. You don't know how old he is. You don't know his educational background. You don't know whether or not he might have some sort of learning disability. You presume 'a lack of effort and caring' on the flimsiest of evidence.

In fact, all of the available evidence suggest he does care, and that he's putting in as much effort as he can. I, like K-P and C&M, welcome his participation, and hope to see him involved with many World Cups to come.

I want him here, and I want him to feel welcome.

It's also worth noting that your statement that there are certain things that any reader of English should be able to do is inaccurate and ill-informed. Personal experience has amply demonstrated to me that there are many native English speaking university students around the world who can't use proper capitalisation or punctuation, so it's a bit rich to expect a similar level of correct English from everyone posting here. On a more serious level, I also have a cousin with severe dyslexia who can't punctuate, spell or capitalise his way out of a paper bag, but he still has an MA.

And finally, if you really can't see the problem with World Cup hosts making unsolicited criticisms of other nations' RPs during a World Cup, then I'm deeply disappointed in you.
Liverpool England
06-02-2008, 21:14
With no real opinion either way on Hopeless SC's RPs, can I just say that I think it sets a really dangerous precedent and becomes a major conflict of interest once a host does what ESF has done. In other words a host shouldn't do what ESF did. Telegramming Hopeless SC to sort it out might have been better, but posting it for everyone to see is just bad form for a host.
Taeshan
06-02-2008, 22:29
Actually seeing as my first language is english doesmean i should write better, but i'm a total nerd/geek/insert your word here type of guy. I'm just not a great typer. The 8th grade english teacher says i just dont write readable content. Are school district is practically the cheapest one in the whole state of pa.(Elanco/Garden spot). I hAVE NO DISABILITIES AND YOU should definetely see my history mid term(75/75)Best in class. As president kennedy would have put it. Ik bin ein berliner, except he splled ich wrong and should not have used ein.(jelly donut ha ha)
Starblaydia
07-02-2008, 00:41
Exceedingly early, perhaps, but something like this needs to be announced and prepared properly:

The Starblaydia & Krytenia Uber-bid for WC40, and its BoF & CoH (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549052).
Sel Appa
07-02-2008, 00:51
My style of RPs in this WC is actually a bit of a spin off of something that I remember somebody doing waaaaay back when I was using my original nation, with the RPs being like a kid writing home from school.What nation were you?
I like Taeshan's RPs. Genuinely. Seriously people, e e cummings. He's gonna be huge. Just be thankful you'll have the opportunity to say "I knew him when..." in a few years time.I'll take that.
Unessacery waffles? (http://www.fallensouffle.com/uploaded_images/IMG_9764-713601.JPG)
I hate you! DIE! Now I want waffles.
Actually seeing as my first language is english doesmean i should write better, but i'm a total nerd/geek/insert your word here type of guy. I'm just not a great typer. The 8th grade english teacher says i just dont write readable content. Are school district is practically the cheapest one in the whole state of pa.(Elanco/Garden spot). I hAVE NO DISABILITIES AND YOU should definetely see my history mid term(75/75)Best in class. As president kennedy would have put it. Ik bin ein berliner, except he splled ich wrong and should not have used ein.(jelly donut ha ha)
And there we have it: he's just a lazy typer. Speech is not at all a measure of intelligence, but many seem to think it is. Examples range from Taeshan to GWBush to non-human animals to my deaf Sociology teacher (which is a most enlightening experience). All could or are criticized for being less intelligent, but may not actually be even remotely below average.
Cafundeu
07-02-2008, 02:24
Exceedingly early, perhaps, but something like this needs to be announced and prepared properly:

The Starblaydia & Krytenia Uber-bid for WC40, and its BoF & CoH (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549052).

So you're interested in hosting the CoH31? The CoH31 is the one related to WC39, not WC40 (the one related to WC40 would be the CoH32).

Just asking to see if a mistake with the numbers happened.

(and because I'll bid to host the CoH again...)
Daehanjeiguk
07-02-2008, 04:22
Speaking of waffles, those Belgians did great, eh?
Qazox
07-02-2008, 05:42
From the immortal words of Homer J. Simpson

MMMMMMM......WAFFLES..<Drools>
Hopeless SC
07-02-2008, 05:55
What nation were you?

I probably shouldn't even refer to the fact that I used to be known as something else considering what I'm about to say, but I felt it was appropriate to mention that fact to help people understand my RPs. I don't want people to affiliate this nation with who I used, which is why I'm not going to reveal who I was. Those who've been around a long time might remember the series of RPs I was referring to though, which could help you narrow that list down.
Starblaydia
07-02-2008, 09:39
So you're interested in hosting the CoH31? The CoH31 is the one related to WC39, not WC40 (the one related to WC40 would be the CoH32).

Just asking to see if a mistake with the numbers happened.

(and because I'll bid to host the CoH again...)

CoH32 it is, I miscounted, adding 1 to the number of BoFs but only 1 to the number of CoHs. Error corrected in the thread, too.
The Supermarket
07-02-2008, 11:40
I probably shouldn't even refer to the fact that I used to be known as something else considering what I'm about to say, but I felt it was appropriate to mention that fact to help people understand my RPs. I don't want people to affiliate this nation with who I used, which is why I'm not going to reveal who I was. Those who've been around a long time might remember the series of RPs I was referring to though, which could help you narrow that list down.

I think there's been a few like that. Which doesn't really narrow it down. Then again, sometimes they all seem to blur into one...

Which means you must be... South Ossettia... no, Melmond... wait, Cockbill Street... hang on, Lethislavania... or maybe Druida... Oh hell, I give up!
Kura-Pelland
07-02-2008, 12:38
Aquilla?
Starblaydia
07-02-2008, 13:02
Spaam, Iansisle, The Belmore Family, Brazillico, Fmjphoenix, Europa Brittania, Audioslavia... the list of possibles goes on and on, what with all the retirements we get.
Qazox
07-02-2008, 20:08
I probably shouldn't even refer to the fact that I used to be known as something else considering what I'm about to say, but I felt it was appropriate to mention that fact to help people understand my RPs. I don't want people to affiliate this nation with who I used, which is why I'm not going to reveal who I was. Those who've been around a long time might remember the series of RPs I was referring to though, which could help you narrow that list down.

My Guesses: Al Quds, Total n Utter Insanity, or Eauz.
Sel Appa
07-02-2008, 23:48
Speaking of waffles, those Belgians did great, eh?
I hate Belgian waffles.
Sel Appa
08-02-2008, 00:42
ATTN: Everyone:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13430773&postcount=345
Daehanjeiguk
08-02-2008, 01:15
ATTN: Everyone:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13430773&postcount=345

Hate to bust your bubble, but CoH XXX was last cup.

Unless you want a recount.
Sel Appa
08-02-2008, 01:47
Hate to bust your bubble, but CoH XXX was last cup.

Unless you want a recount.

Yeah. It was a mistake built off of Star's mistake...:headbang: I've fixed it though.
Jeruselem
08-02-2008, 04:10
Friendlies
Starblaydia 8–0 Krytenia

LOL - I hope they didn't get Star and Ariddia mixed up
Hopeless SC
08-02-2008, 05:02
Cafundeu, no offense taken. It was an honest mistake on my part.



As to who I am, nobody has named me yet, but I will say that I remember most of the teams named, and played against a fair number of them.
Cafundeu
08-02-2008, 08:23
Cafundeu, no offense taken. It was an honest mistake on my part.

It was a good opportunity to make a small RP, one that I couldn't let pass (it seemed that Vephrall thought the same).

Well, I'll travel to São Paulo today, and will be 4 days out. When I return, I'll make a RP about all the games I've missed (and hopefully put my CoH bid too).
Starblaydia
08-02-2008, 09:54
Friendlies
Starblaydia 8–0 Krytenia

LOL - I hope they didn't get Star and Ariddia mixed up

Staryddia?

Hehe that equals my best-ever win, actually - back in WC27 when I in the top ten in the world, playing a non-RPing newbie, Obsidianus.

Now I just need a few more wins like that in the Qualifiers - Over Zwangzug, anyone? :D
The Archregimancy
08-02-2008, 10:37
Speaking of waffles, those Belgians did great, eh?

As it happens, I'm going to be in Belgium next weekend.

A nation whose greatest contributions to global gastronomy are waffles, chocolate, beer, food cooked in beer, and the twice-fried potato chip...

Is Belgium possibly the greatest country ever?


And on the other issue of the day.... Tanah Burung?
Liverpool England
08-02-2008, 11:15
Thought just occurred to me... Warnocks Wizards?
Starblaydia
08-02-2008, 11:46
As to who I am, nobody has named me yet, but I will say that I remember most of the teams named, and played against a fair number of them.

Thought just occurred to me... Warnocks Wizards?

I think that's a bit too old-school, LE. My final guesses are: Sarzonia or Giant Zucchini.
Liverpool England
08-02-2008, 12:26
I think that's a bit too old-school, LE. My final guesses are: Sarzonia or Giant Zucchini.

I don't think either of them are in Minnesota...
Starblaydia
08-02-2008, 14:22
You're not NEWI, Druida and Schiavonia, too, are you? Only I often thought that I might have a split personality.

Unless split entirely from your body, I'd imagine it's not.

EDIT: Timewarp. See below.
The Supermarket
08-02-2008, 14:25
Cafundeu, no offense taken. It was an honest mistake on my part.



As to who I am, nobody has named me yet, but I will say that I remember most of the teams named, and played against a fair number of them.

Yeah, the list could be almost endless, the number of teams we've seen come and go over the years.

Did I just say years? What the hell have I been doing with my life?!?!?

I'd guess you're either probably one of the numerous afformentioned, Oglethorpia, Lemmitania, Mattigool, Aquilliana, Kingsford, Snub Nose 38, Runaway Moose, Praying2God... I'm not narrowing this down, am I?

You're not NEWI, Druida and Schiavonia, too, are you? Only I often thought that I might have a split personality.
Krytenia
08-02-2008, 21:52
Friendlies
Starblaydia 8–0 Krytenia

LOL - I hope they didn't get Star and Ariddia mixed up

http://www.cwinters.com/programming/pghpm-2003-10/comic_book_guy.gif

Worst. Result. Ever. :eek:
NSWC Signups
08-02-2008, 22:34
World Cup 40 signups (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13433470#post13433470) are now open.

Of course, the way Jolt's timewarping right now, they may be closed before this post actually makes it through. :p
Sel Appa
09-02-2008, 00:01
As it happens, I'm going to be in Belgium next weekend.

A nation whose greatest contributions to global gastronomy are waffles, chocolate, beer, food cooked in beer, and the twice-fried potato chip...

Is Belgium possibly the greatest country ever?


And on the other issue of the day.... Tanah Burung?

Wow you really travel around a lot.
Legalese
09-02-2008, 01:44
For propriety's sake, the Proposal offered by yours truly, as posted in the Uber-Bid Thread:


With regards to the special circumstances regarding the Uber-Bid by Starblaydia and Krytenia for hosting rights to all the WCC tournaments connected to World Cup XL,

The World Cup Committee ALLOWS a one-time exception to the present rules regarding hosting, instead instituting the following procedure:

1) The Starblaydi and Krytenian bids for the three tournaments shall be considered by the members of the WCC, with the following question to be placed to a vote: "Shall the Starblaydi and Krytenian bid for hosting rights to World Cup XL, Baptism of Fire 27, and Cup of Harmony 32 be accepted in its entirety?"

2) If the above question receives the support of at least 1/2 of the eligible WCC voting membership, the hosting rights and duties for the stated tournaments shall be awarded to Starblaydia and Krytenia. A failure to reach this margin shall result in the reinstatement of the currently outlined voting procedures.

This proposal, if accepted, shall no longer apply following the awarding of hosting rights to Cup of Harmony 32.
New Manhattan
09-02-2008, 01:55
For propriety's sake, the Proposal offered by yours truly, as posted in the Uber-Bid Thread:
“For propriety’s sake”? You want us to have a vote on whether we should vote on the Star–Kry bid as a single entity, and then, if that succeeds, have a second vote on the actual bid? Then, if the bid fails, we’d have a third round of voting on the other bids for the WC, CoH, and BoF? Having the normal votes for each competition seems far easier, and has the advantage of allowing us to consider all the alternatives—especially for the CoH, since bids normally come after the World Cup has started—before making a decision.
Bazalonia
09-02-2008, 02:04
For propriety's sake, the Proposal offered by yours truly, as posted in the Uber-Bid Thread:

I dunno, I don't think we need it but as this now falls under Veph's domain (As it relates WC40) I'll just point and laugh at Veph... "hah, sucked in..."
Vephrall
09-02-2008, 02:17
“For propriety’s sake”? You want us to have a vote on whether we should vote on the Star–Kry bid as a single entity, and then, if that succeeds, have a second vote on the actual bid? Then, if the bid fails, we’d have a third round of voting on the other bids for the WC, CoH, and BoF? Having the normal votes for each competition seems far easier, and has the advantage of allowing us to consider all the alternatives—especially for the CoH, since bids normally come after the World Cup has started—before making a decision.

And don't forget, we have to decide whether to accept the proposal in the first place, which I believe would require a fourth vote.

To me, this really seems like needless bureaucracy...

*looks at nation name* Oh right. :p

At any rate, Star has indicated that he seems to be fine with just holding the normal three separate bid votes (admittedly no confirmation yet from Kry). Given that, I think surely we're better off just sticking to the normal process.
Krytenia
09-02-2008, 03:39
And don't forget, we have to decide whether to accept the proposal in the first place, which I believe would require a fourth vote.

To me, this really seems like needless bureaucracy...

*looks at nation name* Oh right. :p

At any rate, Star has indicated that he seems to be fine with just holding the normal three separate bid votes (admittedly no confirmation yet from Kry). Given that, I think surely we're better off just sticking to the normal process.

It would be nice to do it as one chunk, but let's face it, not gonna happen.

So now, we shall charm you thrice! Or not.
Casari
09-02-2008, 04:44
I'm far more interested in seeing how mad Star and Kry are by the time CoH bids start showing up, because having no real responsibility other than making sure Bedi continues respiration, I have to find something else to amuse myself.
Acapais
09-02-2008, 04:52
ATTN: Everyone:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13430773&postcount=345

Hey Sel, I'll help co-host if you need it.
Liverpool England
09-02-2008, 04:58
In MD8 tables, Sel Appa were credited a win for a draw while Ad'ihan got a draw for a win. Bazalonia got a loss for a win whilst Sorthern Northland got a draw for a loss.
New Manhattan
09-02-2008, 06:02
In MD8 tables, Sel Appa were credited a win for a draw while Ad'ihan got a draw for a win. Bazalonia got a loss for a win whilst Sorthern Northland got a draw for a loss.
The Group 7 table is fixed now.
Sel Appa
09-02-2008, 06:33
If the above question receives the support of at least 1/2 of the eligible WCC voting membership

I seriously hope you mean one more than one half and not one half...

Hey Sel, I'll help co-host if you need it.
Your offer shall be considered. We look forward to potentially working with you.

Speaking of which, does anyone happen to have the Schia/Qutar scorinator...that's what I want to use...appears the current Cup is using that, so NM/ESF, can either of you send it? :)
Jeruselem
09-02-2008, 11:06
Jeru FC third in Group 4, I'm quite surprised at that considering I don't RP them much. I think it's more to do with Wentland not doing well.
Starblaydia
09-02-2008, 11:16
And don't forget, we have to decide whether to accept the proposal in the first place, which I believe would require a fourth vote.

To me, this really seems like needless bureaucracy...

*looks at nation name* Oh right. :p

At any rate, Star has indicated that he seems to be fine with just holding the normal three separate bid votes (admittedly no confirmation yet from Kry). Given that, I think surely we're better off just sticking to the normal process.

It would be nice to do it as one chunk, but let's face it, not gonna happen.

Yeah, we'd prefer a simple 'yes/no', but as that requires a vote to change the rules or not, then a vote to see if we are ultimately accepted or not, it does seem like fairly pointless bureaucracy, when we would just have three simple votes anyway - one or more of which may simply be 'accept the only bid?'.

So it's Veph's choice, basically. I'd prefer the former (1 vote), but am fine with the latter (separate votes).
Liverpool England
09-02-2008, 12:46
I think it's still way too early in advance to tell if there will be competing bids. I'm still not convinced about the idea and still would welcome any new(ish) nation who'd like to cohost the BoF to contact me. I think this bid may set a dangerous precedent in the future to "lock up" hosting of all three tournaments, not allowing new hosts any opportunities to host a WCC tournament. Or it may not, but I'm not willing to take that chance.
The Archregimancy
09-02-2008, 13:37
I think it's still way too early in advance to tell if there will be competing bids. I'm still not convinced about the idea and still would welcome any new(ish) nation who'd like to cohost the BoF to contact me. I think this bid may set a dangerous precedent in the future to "lock up" hosting of all three tournaments, not allowing new hosts any opportunities to host a WCC tournament. Or it may not, but I'm not willing to take that chance.

I do think that there's a danger that such an ambitious bid will discourage other nations from bidding. That's no slur on Star and Kry, who have an established track record of offering a high-quality hosting experience, but it's that very fact that may discourage alternative bids; why put in the work towards a full hosting bid when Star and Kry are already perceived as such overwhelming favourites?

Az - whom, despite my occasional differences with him, has all the necessary qualifications to be a co-host - has already signalled that he may pull a planned bid, and I'd also already noted that I was thinking about a host bid, but am equally of a mind to change my mind now.

So, as excellent as any Star-Kry hosted event would no doubt be, like LE I hope that suitably qualified nations will still consider coming forward. Not because I'm against a Star-Kry mega-hosted sequence of cups, but rather because I think it benefits us all to have some sort of choice.
Qazox
09-02-2008, 19:52
If anything, having StarKry (if you use that.. $50.00 fee would suffice) attempt to host all three, should increase the number of bids, Especially if everyone seems to not like the idea of two countries hosting all three.

If it's only a one time thing, then it's not a bad idea, but if this begins to set an appearently unwanted precident, then maybe we need to pass a resolution banning these type of bids.

I think it's an ambitous idea, and if StarKry think they can pull it off, then more power to them.
Sel Appa
09-02-2008, 21:35
I think it actually makes sort of sense to have one set do all three parts. Not something to get used to, but it's not a bad idea.
Cafundeu
09-02-2008, 23:35
A bid for the CoH:

The CoH31 Caf/Dae bid (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13436370#post13436370)
Sel Appa
10-02-2008, 00:21
Sel Appa--Acapais Bid:
Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283)

Ac, I need the following for the bid page:

Nation History in WC
Best Time to Scorinate
Images and such for the new banner (map/flag/logo...)
Sponsors if you have any.
Check your TGs.
Qazox
10-02-2008, 06:06
ITS TIME FOR THE TRADITIONAL QAZOX WORLD CUP WHINGE!!!!!

Why do I lose every qualification to an unranked team?

(OOC to ALL: DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS... JUST LET IT GO!... Please for the sanity of this thread.. just don't respond to this.)
Acapais
10-02-2008, 06:18
Sel Appa--Acapais Bid:
Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283)

Ac, I need the following for the bid page:

Nation History in WC
Best Time to Scorinate
Images and such for the new banner (map/flag/logo...)
Sponsors if you have any.
Check your TGs.


Gotcha dude; Check your TG; I sent back
Wentland
10-02-2008, 12:10
ITS TIME FOR THE TRADITIONAL QAZOX WORLD CUP WHINGE!!!!!

What's that got to do with gender equality?
The Archregimancy
10-02-2008, 12:41
If anything, having StarKry (if you use that.. $50.00 fee would suffice)

If they do call their bid 'StarKry', I demand that they hold matches at a brand new ground called 'the Hutch', and make the official stuffed animal toy of the tournament the 'Huggy Bear'.
Starblaydia
10-02-2008, 12:42
I think it's still way too early in advance to tell if there will be competing bids. I'm still not convinced about the idea and still would welcome any new(ish) nation who'd like to cohost the BoF to contact me. I think this bid may set a dangerous precedent in the future to "lock up" hosting of all three tournaments, not allowing new hosts any opportunities to host a WCC tournament. Or it may not, but I'm not willing to take that chance.

Firstly, I'm not a great believer in precedents - just because it happened once before, doesn't make it an immediate rule for the future (Starblaydia in the BoF 90 years after entering the World Cup, anyone?). Secondly, this sort of bid could actually open up new avenues for inexperienced hosts in the future. Say, for the sake of example, NewNationA wanted the BoF and SemiNewNationB wanted the CoH: they have to try and find a more experienced host. With two veterans (C & D) part-hosting all three competions, it could be an Uber 4-nation bit. A & C doing the BoF, C & D doing the WC and D & B doing the CoH.

WC40 is, let's face it, a little bit special in terms of WC milestones. We've nearly overtaken the Superbowl (42 so far), for crying out loud. Why not a different, ambitious bid?

I do think that there's a danger that such an ambitious bid will discourage other nations from bidding... that may discourage alternative bids; why put in the work towards a full hosting bid when Star and Kry are already perceived as such overwhelming favourites?

Az... has already signalled that he may pull a planned bid, and I'd also already noted that I was thinking about a host bid, but am equally of a mind to change my mind now.

...I think it benefits us all to have some sort of choice.

Any bid for the WC by two nations who a) nobody seems to openly dislike, b) have been around a long time and c) have done fairly successful WCs before is bound to be 'overwhelming favourites' for hosting and would surely discourage other, less entrenched, bidders anyway?

We're bidding because we want to host this cup, for many varied reasons. Whether we are simply a default host because our perceived enormity has scared others off, or because the community at large has decided we'd be better than other bidders doesn't really concern the competitive steak in me; I just want to host a great Cup from front to back.
Casari
10-02-2008, 18:12
"different" and "ambitious"? If it's going to be three overly traditional bids, "different" and "ambitious" might be going a bit far. :p
Alasdair I Frosticus
10-02-2008, 19:04
This from the sign-up thread:

Qazox will attempt for the 14th time to win the World Cup. (we must be nearing some record.....right???)


Nowhere near it, lad.

Alasdair I Frosticus has participated in WCs: 1-4, 7, 25, 27-28, 30-39

The Archregimancy has participated in WCs: 24-39

That's a combined total of, I think, 34 tournaments for the two Dreamed Realm nations - and neither of them have ever made it past the Quaterfinals.

In terms of futility, you're just a wee bairn of failure compared to that record.
Qazox
11-02-2008, 04:47
...

In terms of futility, you're just a wee bairn of failure compared to that record.

OK ya got me there, BUT interms of not advancing past the Group Stages, then I might be nearing a record. (i'm not too far behind Alasdair I Frosticus 13-to-16 and 17 for Arch.)
Bazalonia
11-02-2008, 06:37
PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

END OF AN ERA!

With the hosting vote for 31st CoH Is the last official duty for James Gaines before he hands over to 'the guy with a name I can't pronounce'

Anyway here it is

There are 2 contenders, Sel Appa/Acapais (http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283) and Cafundeu/Daehanjeiguk
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549282)
This vote is only open to EWCC

Whose member are:

Alasdair I Frosticus/The Archregimancy
Ariddia
Az-cz
Bazalonia
Bedistan/Vephrall
Capitalizt SLANI
Casari
Geisenfried
The Islands of Qutar
Kaze Progressa/Kura-Pelland
Krytenia
Legalese/Novapsolu
Liverpool England/Ad'ihan
The Lowland Clans
Milchama
Oliverry
Quakmybush
Rejistania
Starblaydia
Turori/Vilita
Valanora
Qazox
11-02-2008, 07:01
PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

...

There are 2 contenders, Sel Appa/Acapais (http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283) and Cafundeu/Daehanjeiguk...
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549282)


UHMMMM.... Didn't Starblaydia and Krytenia also bid for this? or is it for CoH 32? if it is CoH #32, then forget i said anything.
Liverpool England
11-02-2008, 07:10
UHMMMM.... Didn't Starblaydia and Krytenia also bid for this? or is it for CoH 32? if it is CoH #32, then forget i said anything.

Even if it was there's nothing stopping competing bids.
Qazox
11-02-2008, 07:14
Even if it was there's nothing stopping competing bids.

True, I think I was mistaken about the StarKry bids. I didn't mean to imply that they were the only ones bidding on this upcoming CoH.
Bazalonia
11-02-2008, 07:28
I think the point that Qaz was making was "Why wasn't the StarKry bid on the list?"

Simply, they are bidding for the 32nd CoH. The CoH in step with WC40.

Why the confusion with WC31?Because a certain Brit (heh - you know who you are) miscounted.
Acapais
11-02-2008, 08:46
PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
...
There are 2 contenders, Sel Appa/Acapais (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283) and Cafundeu/Daehanjeiguk
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549282)
...


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549283

In case our bid link was bad.
Starblaydia
11-02-2008, 13:21
I think the point that Qaz was making was "Why wasn't the StarKry bid on the list?"

Simply, they are bidding for the 32nd CoH. The CoH in step with WC40.

Why the confusion with WC31?Because a certain Brit (heh - you know who you are) miscounted.

Oui, c'est vrai.
Septentrionia
11-02-2008, 17:40
Oui, c'est vrai.

What's with Brits speaking in French now? :p
Sorthern Northland
11-02-2008, 17:46
What's with Brits speaking in French now? :p


Cela fait partie d'un plan diabolique d'invasion du Québec.

*Ajouter mal rire.
Starblaydia
11-02-2008, 17:51
What's with Brits speaking in French now? :p

Appealing to the French-speaking vote, obviously.

Mange tout, Rodders! (A reference for the Brits, there)
Sorthern Northland
11-02-2008, 17:53
Mange tout, Rodders! (A reference for the Brits, there)

See my favourite dish is duck à l'orange but I don't know what that is in French. :D

Great show that.
Daehanjeiguk
11-02-2008, 18:07
Oui, c'est vrai.

OH NO! THE FRENCH ARE INVADING ENGLAND!

AGAIN!
Daehanjeiguk
11-02-2008, 18:20
Must...not...make...comment *quickly hits submit reply and runs*

*chases with post*

You forgot to add the exclamation point!
Daehanjeiguk
11-02-2008, 18:21
*chases with post*

You forgot to add the exclamation point!

gotta love time warps...
Bostopia
11-02-2008, 18:23
OH NO! THE FRENCH ARE INVADING ENGLAND!

AGAIN!

Must...not...make...comment *quickly hits submit reply and runs*
Legalese
11-02-2008, 21:32
OH NO! THE FRENCH ARE INVADING ENGLAND!

AGAIN!

Well, it's been awhile. Usually it's the other direction, with the intention of keeping the French from having to learn German :p
Starblaydia
11-02-2008, 21:41
Well, it's been awhile. Usually it's the other direction, with the intention of keeping the French from having to learn German :p

Achtung, Baby!/Surrender!/Schweinhund!/(insert reference here)!
Uberwoud
11-02-2008, 22:01
Hi

I am a newbie, created my nation today. Can anybody explain to me this World Cup stuff? Is there a faq or so? how does it work? winners, loosers etc
Acapais
11-02-2008, 22:01
Hi

I am a newbie, created my nation today. Can anybody explain to me this World Cup stuff? Is there a faq or so? how does it work? winners, loosers etc

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/world_cup_faqs.html
Acapais
11-02-2008, 22:06
Hi

I am a newbie, created my nation today. Can anybody explain to me this World Cup stuff? Is there a faq or so? how does it work? winners, loosers etc

Sign-up for World Cup 40:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549190
Just reply by saying something like "We sign up"

WC39 Role-Play Thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547989
This is where we Role-Play our teams and such. By doing this you increase you chance of winning.

WC39 Scores Thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548596
The hosts of the WC post the scores here.
Acapais
11-02-2008, 22:10
Thank you. first reaction after reading some of it: some people have waaaaaay to much time :)

I <3 the internet

Actually I don't spend much time here at all. I won't speak for everyone, but I spend 30mins or less a day on NationStates.
Uberwoud
11-02-2008, 22:12
Thank you. first reaction after reading some of it: some people have waaaaaay to much time :)

I <3 the internet
Starblaydia
11-02-2008, 22:41
Thank you. first reaction after reading some of it: some people have waaaaaay to much time :)

You ain't kidding. If you like what you see, please do sign up for World Cup 40!
Candelaria And Marquez
11-02-2008, 22:59
Well, when you were at The Tar Pit, and that girl asked you for help, you fainted and hit your head on her ring.

Was I the only one with an image...?

OOC:

No such thing exists. Did you mean the PBC (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/pacitalian_broadcasting_corporation.html)?

Mm. That was either;

A. A throwaway but none the less cunning reference intended to subtly signify how wide-ranging the sudden changes in our heroine's world were or,

B. A damning indictment of what happens when NSwiki is down and I can't be arsed to do thorough research.

I forget which. :)

Thank you. first reaction after reading some of it: some people have waaaaaay to much time :)



That'd be me, then...
Dancougar
11-02-2008, 23:05
OH NO! THE FRENCH ARE INVADING ENGLAND!

AGAIN!

Hmm, I'm pretty sure the last time that happened was when England owned a chunk of France to begin with. Then again, I'm a product of American public education, so I could be wrong ^_^
Jeruselem
12-02-2008, 00:26
Hmm, I'm pretty sure the last time that happened was when England owned a chunk of France to begin with. Then again, I'm a product of American public education, so I could be wrong ^_^

Read up on the Battle of Hastings :p
Bostopia
12-02-2008, 01:34
Read up on the Battle of Hastings :p

And hey, the Normans were North men who were Vikings anyway! Success!

Plus, if it wasn't for the bloody peasants running down the hill chasing the VikingNormans, then the Saxons would have stood a much better chance. Bloody peasants.
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 01:36
Hmm, I'm pretty sure the last time that happened was when England owned a chunk of France to begin with. Then again, I'm a product of American public education, so I could be wrong ^_^

It's interesting how the two countries were almost unified. Imagine that today...Anglofrance speaking Anglofrench...
Bazalonia
12-02-2008, 02:08
It's interesting how the two countries were almost unified. Imagine that today...Anglofrance speaking Anglofrench...

*shudders at the thought of the majority of the world being Quebecois*
Hopeless SC
12-02-2008, 05:22
Anybody know what the record for 0-0 draws in WC qualifying is? I just had my 5th. Gee...if only I could find some offense, this could be a whole different Group 2.:p
Vephrall
12-02-2008, 05:37
Anybody know what the record for 0-0 draws in WC qualifying is? I just had my 5th. Gee...if only I could find some offense, this could be a whole different Group 2.:p

The record belongs to System Karela in World Cup 26:

Pts W D L GF:GA GD
1. Oaker 22 6 4 2 26:13 13
2. One Red Dot 20 5 5 2 17:12 5
------------------------------------------------------
3. Hurleyland 17 5 2 5 11:14 -3
4. Majeristan 16 3 7 2 16:13 3
5. Hypocria 16 4 4 4 17:22 -5
6. System Karela 12 1 9 2 1:2 -1
7. Palacetonia 6 1 3 8 10:22 -12

One 1-0 win, two 0-1 losses, and nine scoreless draws in twelve matches played.
Dancougar
12-02-2008, 05:40
Read up on the Battle of Hastings :p

And hey, the Normans were North men who were Vikings anyway! Success!

Touche. *mutter* Stupid technicalities.
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 06:14
The record belongs to System Karela in World Cup 26:

Pts W D L GF:GA GD
1. Oaker 22 6 4 2 26:13 13
2. One Red Dot 20 5 5 2 17:12 5
------------------------------------------------------
3. Hurleyland 17 5 2 5 11:14 -3
4. Majeristan 16 3 7 2 16:13 3
5. Hypocria 16 4 4 4 17:22 -5
6. System Karela 12 1 9 2 1:2 -1
7. Palacetonia 6 1 3 8 10:22 -12

One 1-0 win, two 0-1 losses, and nine scoreless draws in twelve matches played.

That's awesome. It's quirky things like that I'd have built into a scorinator to generate every now and then.
Starblaydia
12-02-2008, 09:26
One 1-0 win, two 0-1 losses, and nine scoreless draws in twelve matches played.

Wasn't that when there were almost infinite style modifiers and System Karela picked something like -1000?
Bostopia
12-02-2008, 12:57
Wasn't that when there were almost infinite style modifiers and System Karela picked something like -1000?

For those of you familiar with football manager, that's a 1 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 0 Ultra Defensive outlook. (Sweeper, 4 defenders, 2 wingbacks/1 dm, and two midfielders). Also, I think my latest RP shows I've well and truly lost my marbles.
Starblaydia
12-02-2008, 13:48
Also, I think my latest RP shows I've well and truly lost my marbles.

You should look up some of my old Nova Britannicus RPs... it's like they've spawned some sort of bastard love-child, old chap. Jolly good show!
Vephrall
12-02-2008, 15:03
Wasn't that when there were almost infinite style modifiers and System Karela picked something like -1000?

They chose -4 in a cup where the range was -3 to +3. After protests from other parties, this was changed to -3.

(Incidentally, Vilita chose +22 in that same cup. Alas, that was also changed to +3. :p)
Sorthern Northland
12-02-2008, 18:05
Anybody know what the record for 0-0 draws in WC qualifying is? I just had my 5th. Gee...if only I could find some offense, this could be a whole different Group 2.:p
The University of the Bleeding Obvious says the best way to have a decent attack is not to play ultra defensively. :p

Also, I think my latest RP shows I've well and truly lost my marbles.

What!? You hadn't already? ;)
Candelaria And Marquez
12-02-2008, 19:09
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7180/arsenal198384awaylk7.jpg
C&M players before the game

Nice to see that eighties-style homo-eroticism hasn't left the Candelarias yet. Check out that tash! :D
The Archregimancy
12-02-2008, 19:22
If my RPs are a little lacking in quality or content over the last couple and next couple of days, it's because I've spent the last 48 hours being rushed to Harlow hospital with an intravenous drip attached, having the paramedics then turn up to drag me into bed after I fainted from pain on the landing, and am currently drugged up to the gills with four different type of industrial strength pain killer and muscle relaxant (no, I won't share - get your own).

So my lucid/awake spells are a little few and far between right now.

Oooooooooh..... what a lovely floaty feeling...............
Starblaydia
12-02-2008, 20:29
Oooooooooh..... what a lovely floaty feeling...............

Some of my family live in Harlow, nice part of the world.

Good hospitals, too. Take care Arch.
Dancougar
12-02-2008, 21:32
Vephrese who wish to partake in their own version of these ceremonies in order to counter the effects of the Dancougarrer** equivalent are asked to perform all such ceremonies in Vephrall in order to prevent divine confusion.

** That's the Vephra adjective form of the nation's name, which I've conveniently left untranslated purely because I really don't know what the correct word in English is. :p

There was a thread where I was supposed to put that information. And I didn't do it because I'm obviously too good for that. Or an idiot. Or lazy. Or some combination of the above.

Let's go with Dancougaran, that sounds pronounceable. And come on, divine confusion would be fun!
The Archregimancy
12-02-2008, 22:58
Some of my family live in Harlow, nice part of the world.

Good hospitals, too. Take care Arch.


We actually live in Bishop's Stortford (closest town to London Stansted airport for those who don't know the area) - Harlow just happens to be the closest hospital with an emergency department.

But thanks for the good wishes; I actually managed to walk today, so fingers crossed I'll still make it to Brussels on Thursday. That's what I keep trying to tell myself, anyway.
Bostopia
12-02-2008, 23:01
Best wishes from myself too, Arch, hope all goes well.
Starblaydia
12-02-2008, 23:07
We actually live in Bishop's Stortford.

lol an aunt in Harlow, a cousin or two in Bishop's Stortford, where the family gather every year. Small world.
Qazox
13-02-2008, 01:52
If my RPs are a little lacking in quality or content over the last couple and next couple of days, it's because I've spent the last 48 hours being rushed to Harlow hospital with an intravenous drip attached, having the paramedics then turn up to drag me into bed after I fainted from pain on the landing, and am currently drugged up to the gills with four different type of industrial strength pain killer and muscle relaxant (no, I won't share - get your own).

So my lucid/awake spells are a little few and far between right now.

Oooooooooh..... what a lovely floaty feeling...............

Hope ya feel better soon Arch...best wishes.
Qazox
13-02-2008, 01:53
There was a thread where I was supposed to put that information. And I didn't do it because I'm obviously too good for that. Or an idiot. Or lazy. Or some combination of the above.

Let's go with Dancougaran, that sounds pronounceable. And come on, divine confusion would be fun!

That particular thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546283
Jeruselem
13-02-2008, 02:00
Get better Arch, and don't get too doped up! That's a lot of pain killer you got.
Sel Appa
13-02-2008, 03:02
There was a thread where I was supposed to put that information. And I didn't do it because I'm obviously too good for that. Or an idiot. Or lazy. Or some combination of the above.

Let's go with Dancougaran, that sounds pronounceable. And come on, divine confusion would be fun!

I think it would be Dancougarese, but then you have oddballs like Panamanian when Panaman makes more sense.

Hope it all works out Arch.
Daehanjeiguk
13-02-2008, 05:08
ooc: Han, hope you don't mind this.

Absolutely!!!!

That sort of plays into my next RP, which will be up hopefully in a short while!
Prux
13-02-2008, 05:47
QUALIFED FOR: World Cups 31, 33, 35-39, All 11 Women's World Cups.


This is from Qazox' Sig.... Isn't he jumping the gun a bit there?? He hasn't qualified yet, am I right?
Daehanjeiguk
13-02-2008, 05:54
"Anything that is difficult to accompish, is made easier if one gives of one's self to Joe. His burden shall be made as light as a feather of a dove and the yolk be made lightened as of paper."

I'm not an avid follower of the preachings of Joe, but I'm pretty certain that Joe meant to say 'yoke'.

1 a: the yellow spheroidal mass of stored food that forms the inner portion of the egg of a bird or reptile and is surrounded by the white — see egg illustration barchaic : the whole contents of an animal ovum consisting of a protoplasmic formative portion and an inert nutritive portion c: material stored in an animal ovum that supplies food to the developing embryo and consists chiefly of proteins, lecithin, and cholesterol
2[akin to Middle Dutch ieke yolk (of wool), Old English ēowu ewe] : oily material in unprocessed sheep wool consisting of wool fat, suint, and debris

versus

1 a: a wooden bar or frame by which two draft animals (as oxen) are joined at the heads or necks for working together b: an arched device formerly laid on the neck of a defeated person c: a frame fitted to a person's shoulders to carry a load in two equal portions d: a bar by which the end of the tongue of a wagon or carriage is suspended from the collars of the harness e (1): a crosspiece on the head of a boat's rudder (2): an airplane control operating the elevators and ailerons f: a frame from which a bell is hung g: a clamp or similar piece that embraces two parts to hold or unite them in position
2 (plural, usually yoke) : two animals yoked or worked together
3 a (1): an oppressive agency (2): servitude, bondage b: tie, link; especially : marriage
4: a fitted or shaped piece at the top of a skirt or at the shoulder of various garments
Daehanjeiguk
13-02-2008, 05:56
QUALIFED FOR: World Cups 31, 33, 35-39, All 11 Women's World Cups.


This is from Qazox' Sig.... Isn't he jumping the gun a bit there?? He hasn't qualified yet, am I right?

uhm... he can jump the gun if he wants to.


In fact, I think I'll jump the gun by saying I qualifed for World Cup 50! BTW, what the heck is 'qualifed'? I suppose it has something to do with quality feeding?
Qazox
13-02-2008, 05:58
I'm not an avid follower of the preachings of Joe, but I'm pretty certain that Joe meant to say 'yoke'.



Yes I did, (DO NOT RP Under the influence...lol) (changed)


QUALIFED FOR: World Cups 31, 33, 35-39, All 11 Women's World Cups.

This is from Qazox' Sig.... Isn't he jumping the gun a bit there?? He hasn't qualified yet, am I right?

That's probably why I had a draw Today.. (Fixed)
Daehanjeiguk
13-02-2008, 06:11
FYI, continuing this streak of unpleasant discoveries, I know just exactly how this World Cup Qualification series will end in Group 8!

The Han will play at Bostopia, losing. Ulzaxid will play against Green Wombat and win. And then the final will be a draw, and Ulzaxid will qualify despite having not posted a roster or an RP. And then I will have a legitimate reason to (1) find a new football coach, (2) get new players for my team, and (3) host the CoH and have a team play at home!

There's always some positive things to talk about, as experience shows.

Also showing at your local movie theater is a tale of deception, lies, and cheating! It's a story so provocative, that it'll have you at the edge of your chair! It's a story so compelling, you'll call the police just to make sure that you're not making this stuff up! It's a story so long-winded, you'll never figure out how much time you've spent watching it!

IT'S "60 Minutes"! but like you've never seen it. Don Hewitt gets caught doing his taxes fraudulently, and gets chased by the police. In the meantime, CSI folk investigate the mass bone graveyard in his backyard, finding all of those missing people that Jon Walsh has been talking about for all of these years! And that's only half of the story. Wait til you watch the unsettling truth that American celebrities are holding the Federated State of Micronesia hostage, while they try to tap the global warming story. In the end, you'll never imagine the massive bone graveyards behind every person's backyard! Will the police catch Don Hewitt? Will CSI find more than just bones? Will the Federated States of Micronesia get a decent football team to compete in the World Cup XL (does anyone else notice the extremely large and growing waist line around the World Cup?)? Will we be saved from the horrors of dark chocolate and mint tea combined? Will we be saved from the horrors of the Great Ark and late pepper steak? Will the fuwuyuan at the buffet restaurant give me my %$#^ receipt so I can leave this joint? You'll just have to wait and see.

(I'll spoil the ending: Don Hewitt kills John Grisham with a pocket knife in the cellar of the winery, while Miss Scarlet was beating Colonel Mustard with a wrench in the study.)
Jeruselem
13-02-2008, 06:13
I qualified with a draw :p
Daehanjeiguk
13-02-2008, 06:13
I qualified with a draw :p

Yes, but I drew faster!

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/QuickDraw.gif
Qazox
13-02-2008, 06:38
Also showing at your local movie theater is a tale of deception, lies, and cheating! It's a story so provocative, that it'll have you at the edge of your chair! It's a story so compelling, you'll call the police just to make sure that you're not making this stuff up! It's a story so long-winded, you'll never figure out how much time you've spent watching it!

IT'S "60 Minutes"! but like you've never seen it. Don Hewitt gets caught doing his taxes fraudulently, and gets chased by the police. In the meantime, CSI folk investigate the mass bone graveyard in his backyard, finding all of those missing people that Jon Walsh has been talking about for all of these years! And that's only half of the story. Wait til you watch the unsettling truth that American celebrities are holding the Federated State of Micronesia hostage, while they try to tap the global warming story. In the end, you'll never imagine the massive bone graveyards behind every person's backyard! Will the police catch Don Hewitt? Will CSI find more than just bones? Will the Federated States of Micronesia get a decent football team to compete in the World Cup XL (does anyone else notice the extremely large and growing waist line around the World Cup?)? Will we be saved from the horrors of dark chocolate and mint tea combined? Will we be saved from the horrors of the Great Ark and late pepper steak? Will the fuwuyuan at the buffet restaurant give me my %$#^ receipt so I can leave this joint? You'll just have to wait and see.

(I'll spoil the ending: Don Hewitt kills John Grisham with a pocket knife in the cellar of the winery, while Miss Scarlet was beating Colonel Mustard with a wrench in the study.)

What in da blue Hades was that?

I think Daehan may have just clinched the "WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST READ?!?!" award for February.
Tempalhiyon
13-02-2008, 06:45
What in da blue Hades was that?

I think Daehan may have just clinched the "WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST READ?!?!" award for February.

I Am thE mA$tEr Of rAndOm!!!!
Qazox
13-02-2008, 07:41
Just a Note for those that do care about it, THERE WILL NOT BE AN OXEN CUP after this year's CoH, due to the 6th TOUR de QAZOX (sign up here if you are interested: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549314. The TOUR will take up most of my Time during the month I'm running it, as it is time consuming to scorinate. Sorry to all who have enjoyed the OXEN CUP. If there is time after the Tour and before WORLD CUP 40, then possibly I can host one, but don't count on it.
Cafundeu
13-02-2008, 19:26
I've qualified. I'm six points in front of JSY, but have head-to-head advantage against them.
Qazox
14-02-2008, 05:18
DAMN YOU AZ-CZ!!!!

Now I got that insipid theme song in my %&*&ing head....

If you want it to bury itself into your skull.. pleas read this post: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13447307&postcount=506
Elves Security Forces
14-02-2008, 05:51
Jeruselem 2–1 Demot

I do believe that means you won at home Jeru, not in Demot
Qazox
14-02-2008, 06:06
QUALIFED FOR: World Cups 31, 33, 35-39, All 11 Women's World Cups.


This is from Qazox' Sig.... Isn't he jumping the gun a bit there?? He hasn't qualified yet, am I right?

Guess I can change it back now....;)
Jeruselem
14-02-2008, 06:59
I do believe that means you won at home Jeru, not in Demot

You are right, I forgot about the away game on MD12 against them islanders.
Bazalonia
14-02-2008, 15:02
Despite only 5 votes being counted. The result is clear...

With a total of 100% of the votes... Congratulations to The Two Empires

You have successfully won the right to host the CoH....
Daehanjeiguk
14-02-2008, 18:02
Despite only 5 votes being counted. The result is clear...

With a total of 100% of the votes... Congratulations to The Two Empires

You have successfully won the right to host the CoH....


Thanks to all who voted, and just for the benefit of those who did not qualify for the World Cup, we'll have the sign-up thread up ASAP.
Starblaydia
14-02-2008, 18:10
Congrats, guys, I hope you don't take it the wrong way if I say that I hope I don't have to sign up in your thread, and get to miss this CoH altogether! (fingers crossed for Lovisa losing tonight and Starblaydia not being crap)

Otherwise, consider me there! hehe
Cafundeu
14-02-2008, 19:38
ASAP in this case means "as soon as we discover who didn't qualify so we can prepare a list of invited countries".
Acapais
14-02-2008, 22:35
...
With a total of 100% of the votes... Congratulations to The Two Empires

You have successfully won the right to host the CoH....

awww :'(
Grats guys !
Vephrall
14-02-2008, 23:19
Hernández blew out his cheeks. “We-ell… I don’t think the, um, tearing a hole in the fabric of reality thing would be anything to do with a Device… They don’t tend to do that. Probably just a coincidence. Mm-hm, yes. But, um… Well, since you pre-empted the Device Network pulling you back, I guess by re-setting the Device over there, you, uh, dreamed that reality out of existence…”

“I… Killed them all, then?”

“Surely you realised that’s what would happen?”

But...but...the exchange students!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...
Krytenia
14-02-2008, 23:28
ASAP in this case means "as soon as we discover who didn't qualify so we can prepare a list of invited countries".

*waves*
Starblaydia
14-02-2008, 23:39
The FFSA respectfully requests those nations that voted to reveal themselves and state their reasons for not choosing Sel Appa-Acapais. (here or via TG) The primary reason is for constructive criticism purposes.

Because I thought Caf and Han would be better, and also more likely to go on to host World Cups in the future.

*shrugs*
Sel Appa
14-02-2008, 23:41
Despite only 5 votes being counted. The result is clear...

With a total of 100% of the votes... Congratulations to The Two Empires

You have successfully won the right to host the CoH....

The FFSA respectfully requests those nations that voted to reveal themselves and state their reasons for not choosing Sel Appa-Acapais. (here or via TG) The primary reason is for constructive criticism purposes. (Which anyone can really post in if they want...) This is the second or third failed, but perfectly credible bid, and I'm curious why.

Also, in light of this, Sel Appa will be hosting a Turtle Cup soon to cover in place of Qazox's not being able to do the OXEN Cup.
Qazox
14-02-2008, 23:46
Despite only 5 votes being counted. The result is clear...

With a total of 100% of the votes... Congratulations to The Two Empires

You have successfully won the right to host the CoH....

Congrats you two (no offence, but I'm glad i'm not going to be there :) )

And Sel Appa, I hope your Turtle Cup does well.
Krytenia
14-02-2008, 23:56
The FFSA respectfully requests those nations that voted to reveal themselves and state their reasons for not choosing Sel Appa-Acapais. (here or via TG) The primary reason is for constructive criticism purposes. (Which anyone can really post in if they want...) This is the second or third failed, but perfectly credible bid, and I'm curious why.

Also, in light of this, Sel Appa will be hosting a Turtle Cup soon to cover in place of Qazox's not being able to do the OXEN Cup.

I didn't vote SA, but I think a lot of this is to do with the negative reputation you currently have in NSWC circles. This reputation has harmed otherwise good bidders before (LE, TBF, Vilita) - it takes a lot for people to overcome this impression.

My advice: Suck in the guts, swallow some pride, and keep a low profile controversy-wise for a few weeks. It never hurts to build some bridges, we all want to be friends here after all.

I shall now place this pair of one-cent coins in this jar. Thank you please.
Qazox
15-02-2008, 01:11
The BoF Sel Appa hosted a few cups ago was one of the better run cups I've seen in my 2+ years here.

Granted Sel's attitude in this thread is a bit abrasive at times, but that shouldn't be a factor in determining hosting bids.

I do agree with Kry though, Sel. Your filters need a bit more flitering to do, but please don't take it the wrong way, It's constructive criticism.

If you do host your Turtle Cup, put forth a great effort and show us why you should host more events.
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 01:24
Well, I'd like to imagine that the Two Empires won the bid on the merit that ours was well-placed and organized, rather than "oh, at least it's not Sel Appa". It's insulting to Sel Appa, and it's insulting to us (Caf/Han - sounds like a new brand of coffee!). I don't mean to sound ungrateful - I just would like to appreciate the value of considering the merits rather than the "lesser of two evils" of the hosting bids (even though at times, politics does tend to give one of those every once in a while).
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 01:25
*waves*

*waves back*
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 01:26
But...but...the exchange students!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...

Don't worry about the exchange students! Think about the... the... the mushrooms!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 01:29
awww :'(
Grats guys !

미안합니다 :'<
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 01:33
WOOHOO, 5 in a row!!!

I'm on a streak!

*reads thread title*

And in news related to the New World Cup Discussion, Daehanjeiguk started spamming the thread, starting a sulking comment about how best to criticize people, before turning a face and waving to Krytenia. Following that, Daehanjeiguk lamented at the disappearance of a dreamed realm full of intelligent fungal organisms, lost forever to the powerful shreds of spacetime mechanics, likely the result of an experiment gone wrong somewhere in Candelaria and Marquez. After that, Daehanjeiguk took some time to apologize to Acapais, replying in kind with its own brand of crying face. Now, it's writing this inquiry on how it's written five posts in a row (hoping altogether that no one else has posted in the intervening time...). And that's all for an update!
Elves Security Forces
15-02-2008, 02:18
Hey Han, I need to ask a favor of you. It would be really great if you could contact me on IRC/AIM/MSN, but if you can't TGs are fine.
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 02:20
Hey Han, I need to ask a favor of you. It would be really great if you could contact me on IRC/AIM/MSN, but if you can't TGs are fine.

I've got yahoo...
Elves Security Forces
15-02-2008, 02:21
Well there's supposed to be a way for yahoo to contact msn contacts :p

edit: hrmm my yahoo account still works. not sure how, but it's Angelotics if you want to add
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 03:04
Congrats you two (no offence, but I'm glad i'm not going to be there :) )

And Sel Appa, I hope your Turtle Cup does well.
When did you usually host the OXEN Cup?
I didn't vote SA, but I think a lot of this is to do with the negative reputation you currently have in NSWC circles. This reputation has harmed otherwise good bidders before (LE, TBF, Vilita) - it takes a lot for people to overcome this impression.

My advice: Suck in the guts, swallow some pride, and keep a low profile controversy-wise for a few weeks. It never hurts to build some bridges, we all want to be friends here after all.

I shall now place this pair of one-cent coins in this jar. Thank you please.

I was thinking of adding that if it's OOC-bias, that's ridiculous and stuck-up. I'm not entirely surprised though if that was significant factor. It really shouldn't be though. This isn't meant to be political; it's not the place for personal revenge (not really the right word, but meh).

On another note, someone needs to counter your next domination bid... :p
Bazalonia
15-02-2008, 03:19
Meh, in the End Sel, It's a democracy... You piss off the voters you won't get any votes. In that way it's political

So basically... Suck it up, and move on.
Jeruselem
15-02-2008, 04:04
Meh, in the End Sel, It's a democracy... You piss off the voters you won't get any votes. In that way it's political

So basically... Suck it up, and move on.

And it's just not Sel Appa's cup ...


Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Sorthern Northland 14 10 2 2 46 20 +26 32 Q*
2 Bazalonia 14 10 2 2 31 10 +21 32 Q*
3 Ad’ihan 14 9 3 2 35 15 +20 30 Q
4 Sel Appa 14 8 4 2 36 13 +23 28
5 Beer Served Here 14 5 2 7 18 30 −12 17
6 Minilla Island 14 4 0 10 14 27 −13 12
7 Dinos Pizza 14 2 3 9 12 41 −29 9
8 Carcim 14 0 0 14 4 40 −36 0
* head-to-head results were Sorthern Northland 2–2, 3–2 Bazalonia
Qazox
15-02-2008, 04:31
When did you usually host the OXEN Cup?



I try to host it around the beginning of the Knock-out stages of the Cup of Harmony, that way it's done before the next Baptism of Fire. I'd suggest waiting until after the Group stages of the World Cup are completed before posting a sign-up thread, that way you might get a few WC flameouts.
Jeruselem
15-02-2008, 04:34
8 Evil Polish Donors 14 0 1 13 6 66 −60 1


Look at the numbers ... a 13 and 666 :p
Acapais
15-02-2008, 04:36
미안합니다 :'<
Sel and I did not get to host, hence :'(, but I am happy for you anyway, hence "Grats guys!"
Acapais
15-02-2008, 05:00
Wow RP really does make a difference...
We put together good run, but once we were out, I quit RPing and we lost 0-3, 0-3, 0-4. Hosts have done well imo.

Sel, just put together another kick-ass bid next time. You'll get one eventually. :)
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 05:01
And it's just not Sel Appa's cup ...


Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Sorthern Northland 14 10 2 2 46 20 +26 32 Q*
2 Bazalonia 14 10 2 2 31 10 +21 32 Q*
3 Ad’ihan 14 9 3 2 35 15 +20 30 Q
4 Sel Appa 14 8 4 2 36 13 +23 28
5 Beer Served Here 14 5 2 7 18 30 −12 17
6 Minilla Island 14 4 0 10 14 27 −13 12
7 Dinos Pizza 14 2 3 9 12 41 −29 9
8 Carcim 14 0 0 14 4 40 −36 0
* head-to-head results were Sorthern Northland 2–2, 3–2 Bazalonia


I am now the highest-ranking non-qualifier since Bedistan in WC11 in 6th place.

"Fans riot..."
"Nemnenait Square riots..."
"Coach resigns..."
"Highest ranked team since World Cup 11 fails to qualify..."
What an ironic paradox I have all these great RP openings now...
Liverpool England
15-02-2008, 05:16
What's the current status regarding opposition bids for either the next BoF or CoH (the ones for WC40), as well as the WC itself?
Sorthern Northland
15-02-2008, 05:19
And it's just not Sel Appa's cup ...


Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Sorthern Northland 14 10 2 2 46 20 +26 32 Q*
2 Bazalonia 14 10 2 2 31 10 +21 32 Q*
3 Ad’ihan 14 9 3 2 35 15 +20 30 Q
4 Sel Appa 14 8 4 2 36 13 +23 28
5 Beer Served Here 14 5 2 7 18 30 −12 17
6 Minilla Island 14 4 0 10 14 27 −13 12
7 Dinos Pizza 14 2 3 9 12 41 −29 9
8 Carcim 14 0 0 14 4 40 −36 0
* head-to-head results were Sorthern Northland 2–2, 3–2 Bazalonia


Sorthern Northland top. A beautiful site. :cool:
Green wombat
15-02-2008, 05:25
On a semi-serious note Green wombat is looking for a new National team Coach!

IF interested, Please Post in the CoH thread (if I'm invited) or TG me with you canidate(s).

That is all for now!
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 05:48
What's the current status regarding opposition bids for either the next BoF or CoH (the ones for WC40), as well as the WC itself?
I might put in a CoH or Bof bid against them...

Sorthern Northland top. A beautiful site. :cool:
Congrats, comrade.

On a semi-serious note Green wombat is looking for a new National team Coach!

IF interested, Please Post in the CoH thread (if I'm invited) or TG me with you canidate(s).

That is all for now!
Our coach will soon be looking for a new job...
Hopeless SC
15-02-2008, 05:52
FINALLY! I get a home win in World Cup qualifying. Sure it came against the 135th best team in the world, but I'll take it. Now if I can start doing it more regularly...

Hopefully I'll put together another surprise run deep into the Cup of Harmony.;)

Congrats to all those that qualified.
Jeruselem
15-02-2008, 06:05
My Jeru FC almost qualified, damn that was close! I guess CoH for my army boys now.
Qazox
15-02-2008, 06:12
Since my original Puppet (Sativaville) is not able to be used on the forums anymore, I have a new puppet (Eighthgraderistan).. So the question I dare ask is:

Has anybody had won the Baptism of Fire twice including your Main Nation and your puppet(s), ever?
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 06:16
Since my original Puppet (Sativaville) is not able to be used on the forums anymore, I have a new puppet (Eighthgraderistan).. So the question I dare ask is:

Has anybody had won the Baptism of Fire twice including your Main Nation and your puppet(s), ever?

From NSWiki in down-mode:

BoF (WC22): Bettia 7-0 Corneliu
BoF (WC33): Northern Bettia 6-1 Schorteskatascansolani
Qazox
15-02-2008, 06:20
From NSWiki in down-mode:

BoF (WC22): Bettia 7-0 Corneliu
BoF (WC33): Northern Bettia 6-1 Schorteskatascansolani

Dang.. Well then I guess that I'll have to settle for the First to have TWO Puppets win the BoF then.
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 06:23
A general announcement:

If you couldn't read it in my recent post, here's an important announcement:

我很想大韓帝國蹴球國家代表隊,我不喜欢出隊先生。足球世界高頗以后,我得出去被别德隊先生。

"I will really miss the Great Han Empire National Football Team, I really don't want to leave as Head coach. However, after the World Cup tour, I must leave the position so someone else have can the esteem to bring this team up."


i.e. Cha Beomgeun is going to semi-retired. He's going to take a break for WC40, but that means two things for me:

I'm going to need a new head coach for WC40, and the IFA is looking keenly for a foreign coach that is willing to take up the head position (preferably an ethnic Han...).

That also means that Cha Beomgeun is open to coaching any team after WC40, so if anyone is willing to consider him as an option - probably for the younger teams, maybe a new and upcoming team in WC40 - he's open.


Yeah, this is way too complicated to be pretend (OMFG, HE JUST PULLED THE "P" WORD!), but I'm hoping that it leads to some moderately interesting RPs.
Daehanjeiguk
15-02-2008, 06:37
...and Bostopia made plenty of noise itself by reviving stars and government officials of yesteryear. Zombies are always good for football, and it got them a spot from Group H.

I'm pretty certain that Bostopia only resurrected people... I had the zombies, unless Bostopia has gone one step farther than I did and fielded a team full of zombies (which actually beats having a team full of tank-crazed players - sorry for playing the cliche over and over).
Az-cz
15-02-2008, 09:26
Han,

Zax-Im (Az-cz coach from WC 35-37) might be interested, but his interest has gone down since you've gone and qualified.
Tynelia
15-02-2008, 14:03
i just have to laugh at Tynelia's luck with the RP penalty as its called in Tynelia. didn't have time to post anything the entire second half going into the last day and got 5 straight shutout wins before the 2-2 draw with Oliverry. Then i post something for the final MD and get shutout for my first loss of the qualifiers. Being in a relatively weak and not posting much group certainly helped of course as far as the success run went admittedly.

no big deal since i qualified a while ago but i still think its funny. :D
New Manhattan
15-02-2008, 14:22
I am now the highest-ranking non-qualifier since Bedistan in WC11 in 6th place.
Since you were ranked 3rd, don’t you mean “highest-ranking non-qualifier ever”?

—————

Here’s the rankings updated through the World Cup 39 qualifiers: OpenDocument spreadsheet (http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/worldcup/rankings/postWC39Q/)

These rankings will not be used for the World Cup; pre-qualifying rankings be used throughout the tournament instead.

…and the text version:
1 Az-cz 55.57 Q
2 Squornshelous 49.21 Q
3 Valanora 48.29 Q
4 Ariddia 45.71 Q
5 Sel Appa 45.21
6 Capitalizt SLANI 45.07 Q
7 Tynelia 43.00 Q
8 Milchama 39.50 Q
Zwangzug 39.50 Q
10 Demot 39.21 Q
11 Cafundéu 38.50 Q
12 Bettia 32.79 Q
13 Jeruselem 31.14 Q
14 Quakmybush 29.71 Q
15 Wentland 29.36 Q
16 Errinundera 27.64
17 The Holy Empire 27.43 Q
18 Oliverry 26.57 Q
19 Northern Bettia 26.43 Q
20 Bazalonia 24.64 Q
Bostopia 24.64 Q
22 Novapsolu 23.65 Q
Yafor 2 23.65 Q
24 Vephrall 23.54 Q
25 Candelaria And Marquez 23.21 Q
26 Jasīʼyūn 22.79
27 Qazox 22.21 Q
28 Ad’ihan 20.86 Q
29 Kura-Pelland 20.04 Q
30 Ulzaxid 18.44
31 The Archregimancy 17.89 Q
32 Sorthern Northland 16.21 Q
33 Lovisa 15.89
34 Dance 2 Revolution 15.78 Q
35 Casari 14.94 Q
36 Estresse Intenso 14.80
37 Daehanjeiguk 14.00 Q
38 Turori 13.57
39 Endmile 12.56
40 Scotchpinestan 12.16
41 Vilita 11.93
42 Geisenfried 11.64
43 Starblaydia 11.59 Q
44 Jeru FC 11.11
45 Schiavonia 10.79
46 Taeshan 10.63
47 St Samuel 9.88
48 The Islands of Qutar 9.73
49 The Pazhujeb Islands 9.51
50 Kelssek 9.31
51 Prux 8.56
52 Hopeless SC 8.26
53 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 8.00
54 Krytenia 7.93
55 Kiryu-shi 7.72
56 Minilla Island 7.64
57 Nire and Nire 7.63
58 Dancougar 7.57
59 The Lowland Clans 7.50
60 Solenial 6.89
61 Samcoa 6.71
62 Rejistania 6.68
63 Beer Served Here 6.14
Bonto 6.14
65 Green wombat 5.89
66 Kansiov 5.79
67 Magnus Valerius 5.32
68 Jariss 4.92
69 Blouman Empire 4.86
70 Cookesland 4.73
71 Gweridijongya 4.71
72 Rugiero 4.36
73 Acapais 4.29
74 Naboombu Umbongo 4.00
75 Oickodia 3.79
76 Uiri 3.73
77 Ashlaea 3.71
Bull_horns_rule 3.71
79 Fujisawan Territories 3.29
80 The HURD 3.14
Wing Wang Woo 3.14
82 Abu Omar 3.00
Dinos Pizza 3.00
84 Aurendia 2.86
Vikingholm 2.86
86 Miceland 2.81
87 Limbrogidlia 2.43
88 San Adriano 2.32
89 McPsychoville 2.29
Vanek Drury Brieres 2.29
91 95X 2.13
92 Cadarnia 2.00
Fmjphoenix 2.00
Kalmykstan 2.00
The Supermarket 2.00
96 Onimar 1.98
97 Alversia 1.94
98 Sativaville 1.90
99 Merovis 1.78
100 Komekong 1.71
Vuam and Isma 1.71
102 British Londinium 1.68
103 Assegai Developments 1.57
104 New Morrisia 1.46
Tuaim 1.46
106 Lake Arrowhead 1.43
107 Grotewohl 1.40
108 New Brittonia 1.36
109 Thundercliffe 1.35
110 Billopesha 1.30
111 Loutra oreas Elenis 1.29
The Non-RPing N00b 1.29
Turruth Gordur 1.29
114 Jey 1.27
115 Swilatia 1.21
116 Spaam 1.18
117 Bushes Been Quaked 1.14
Delesa 1.14
Recluse Island 1.14
120 Kristovenia 1.13
121 Miamoria 1.07
122 Bergelland 1.06
123 Mallatarsland 1.04
124 Audioslavia 1.02
125 East Lithuania 1.00
Kirrin Island 1.00
Konora 1.00
Miroxia 1.00
Tremarendakia 1.00
130 Bumiroar 0.95
131 Atheistic Right 0.86
Barbeques 0.86
The Crescent Republic 0.86
Minilla Island West 0.86
Patusan 0.86
Rastafariburg 0.86
137 Boyancy 0.79
The Indonesian States 0.79
Integrite 0.79
140 Zyla 0.71
141 Naleloospalakintula 0.64
142 Ikoville 0.59
143 The Coshairs 0.57
Wavispa 0.57
Violitism 0.57
146 Nebuleux 0.43
The Turkic Shahdom 0.43
148 Central Prestonia 0.36
149 Evil Polish Donors 0.29
Pinguinum 0.29
Wehrmacher 0.29
152 The Sons of a Monkey 0.19
153 Ambrose-Douglas 0.14
Randovium 0.14
Rangpur 0.14
156 Algal states 0.00
Carcim 0.00

(edit: So can we just hand Sel the CoH trophy now? :p )
Bostopia
15-02-2008, 14:36
I'm pretty certain that Bostopia only resurrected people... I had the zombies, unless Bostopia has gone one step farther than I did and fielded a team full of zombies (which actually beats having a team full of tank-crazed players - sorry for playing the cliche over and over).

Yeah, we resurrected people for use in Bazalonia's tournament. And they're not un-dead as such that they were killed but live on as the dead. They died but were brought back into present-time from whatever realm they were in after death.

And I love the notion of playing football in tanks. Mainly because I love tanks. Tank tank tank tank tank tank taaaaaaaaaank! I also look forward to having another reason for making Bostopian kids scared of Hans (after the suicide bombing, damn you) - some Hans thinking we're going to have nuclear war will make us think 'wait, they're preparing for nuclear war against us? zomg it's a pre-emptive!' Which'll only get us more paranoid and crazy than we already are.

Also, I predict that Cas is worred by my last statement.
Dancougar
15-02-2008, 14:37
Zombies, resurrected people, meeeeeeh, order of magnitude ^_^ I'll make sure their next broadcast corrects this grave error. HA HA OH MAN, I SEE WHAT I DID THERE.
Jeruselem
15-02-2008, 14:58
Jeru FC is keeping it's current coach, so no vacancies there as Alfredo did a great job.
Cafundeu
15-02-2008, 15:10
The CoH will use the post-qualifying ranks.

So, thanks CH for that!
Starblaydia
15-02-2008, 15:21
These rankings will not be used for the World Cup; pre-qualifying rankings be used throughout the tournament instead.

…and the text version:
43 Starblaydia 11.59 Q

Awww crap. The lowest ranked qualifier by a country mile, and that's with a qualifying bonus.

Unless of course RP bonus has raised me a little higher than that!
Bostopia
15-02-2008, 18:25
The Queen Skate World Cup 39 Qualification Awards

Hello duckies!

Queen Skate = Dame Edna? (Please don't kill me Baz) The Dallas family has yet again crossed another barrier in sexuality :P
New Manhattan
15-02-2008, 19:07
Awww crap. The lowest ranked qualifier by a country mile, and that's with a qualifying bonus.
The qualifying bonus for WCs 36–38 is used in the post-qualifying rankings; the WC39 qualifying bonus can only added after the Cup—it counts towards the number of points earned in the finals rather than qualifying. If WC36 were dropped from the rankings and WC39 added, then you’d be 37th with 15.02 points; Az-cz would then be reduced to 39.29 points.
Taeshan
15-02-2008, 20:30
Today ethnic han Atlantea hurricanes coach announced his firing from head job. Suilian Jeoung has led the hurricanes to 10 straight championships.(even without all those players shipped to the hans league)Hes open for any job offerings
Qazox
15-02-2008, 20:36
I drop down from 22nd Pre-Cup to 27th Post-qualifiers???

Something ain't right about that... (I'm glad the PRE-CUP ranks are being used)
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 22:30
Since you were ranked 3rd, don’t you mean “highest-ranking non-qualifier ever”?
Yeah, but I mean also that the record has been held since WC11 by Bedistan. That's 28 Cups! For a moment I thought this said the CoH host. On that note, it does make more IC sense for me an Acapais to host it since neither of us qualified, while Caf and Dae did. Not to mention they have a lot of RPing to do for their World Cup Finals runs...A wish NSWiki was editable. :( So much to add.

…and the text version:
5th ain't bad...even though it'll drop a bit more...

(edit: So can we just hand Sel the CoH trophy now? :p )
Seeing how this went, I'm not certain I can win it... I am certainly favorite though...
Sorthern Northland
15-02-2008, 23:08
Congrats, comrade.

Cheers Sel, hope you do well in the CoH.
Whilst I do sympathise with your non-qualification, I have to say a team ranked third is a pretty exciting shock, if only it would happen in real life.

Now then onto coaching stuff.

Kevaughn Ó Criomhthain, has expressed an interest in any jobs that become available in the near future. His contract with the SNFA runs out at the end of this World Cup, and whilst they are likely to offer him a new deal he is also keen to see what other windows of oppurtunity will be available.

I'm going to need a new head coach for WC40, and the IFA is looking keenly for a foreign coach that is willing to take up the head position (preferably an ethnic Han...).

This is a role that Feng Shui may be interested in. However Feng realises that his lack of any managerial experience (SN's Oriental Cup teams aside) is a likely hinderence as I'm sure the IFA will be wanting a more experienced manager. However Feng will be happy to take on any other coaching roles such as assistant manager/coach if they are going.
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 23:27
What's with all the coaches leaving/resigning/being fired...
Jeruselem
16-02-2008, 00:09
Queen Skate = Dame Edna? (Please don't kill me Baz) The Dallas family has yet again crossed another barrier in sexuality :P

I'm Australian, so I pick up stupid things to say from our locals all the time! :p
No Skate isn't going wear a pink wig. :p
Krytenia
16-02-2008, 00:12
What's with all the coaches leaving/resigning/being fired...

Meh, they're all following the trend I set in the mid-Q break.

Here's to meeting in the CoH Sel.
Sel Appa
16-02-2008, 01:20
Meh, they're all following the trend I set in the mid-Q break.

Here's to meeting in the CoH Sel.
I don't believe I was influenced by anything except what happened to my team and that this is my coach's tenth World Cup run.
Cafundeu
16-02-2008, 03:01
What's with all the coaches leaving/resigning/being fired...

Yes, it seems like we are in the Brazilian League, where is a miracle for a coach to stay more than a year (if he stays more than half a year means that he is doing a good job). When the team loses, the supporters usually blame the coach, and some aren't able to resist for much time. It's common to see teams having 3 coaches per year.
Liverpool England
16-02-2008, 03:20
Yes, it seems like we are in the Brazilian League, where is a miracle for a coach to stay more than a year (if he stays more than half a year means that he is doing a good job). When the team loses, the supporters usually blame the coach, and some aren't able to resist for much time. It's common to see teams having 3 coaches per year.

A growing trend in England...
Cafundeu
16-02-2008, 03:46
A growing trend in England...

And here the people who think that the coaches need more time to work in the team often use England as an example that it's better for a coach to stay for a longer time in a team (but, of course, they usually only talk about Wenger and Ferguson).

This remembers me of Wanderley Luxemburgo complaining too that in Brazil the coach isn't a manager, and that he'd like to work as a manager in a Brazilian team (I guess he worked this way in Real Madrid). Here, the directors that make the signings (although the coach suggests players) and control everything, the coach only has to choose the starting eleven (in Vasco and other teams, the coach isn't even allowed to do this, the president chooses some players that the coach must pick to start, so he can benefit with that).
Bazalonia
16-02-2008, 04:00
I'm Australian, so I pick up stupid things to say from our locals all the time! :p
No Skate isn't going wear a pink wig. :p

It's not a wig, nor does she colour it. That's apparently her real hair colour!

A Curse to anyone that says anything bad about the Dame

"May you be trampled under a neverending Bazalope Stampede!"
Qazox
16-02-2008, 04:04
Qazox isn't looking for a new coach, therefore breaking this growing trend.
Qazox
16-02-2008, 04:36
PRUX'S CoH 31 ROSTER

The Robo-Ducks (a 3-2-3-2 formation, and a +2 modifier)

Head Coach: Professor Gearlosse

GOALKEEPER: Dizzy Duck
DEFENSE: Quacky Duck, A Flack Duck and Dougal Duck
SWEEPERS: Cheapie MacDuck and Frugal MacDuck
MIDFIELD: Jumbo Duck, Mumbo Duck and Dumbo Duck
FORWARDS: Speedy MacDuck and Quickie MacDuck

Reserve: Backup Duck

Seriously...I'm not at all suprised by this.
Qazox
16-02-2008, 04:49
Prux is just pure awesome.

Don't Encourage him, please!!!

Bad enough he's used sentient cheese, professional wrestlers, 6 foot tall sandwiches, and bad puns, and now Robotic Ducks? What's next, Vampiric cabbages? or perhaps Giant cigar-smoking Gophers?
Prux
16-02-2008, 04:50
Don't Encourage him, please!!!

Bad enough he's used sentient cheese, professional wrestlers, 6 foot tall sandwiches, and bad puns, and now Robotic Ducks? What's next, Vampiric cabbages? or perhaps Giant cigar-smoking Gophers?

HEy those are some great ideas... I'M CLAIMING THEM IN ADVANCE!!!
Prux
16-02-2008, 04:51
Let's do the Timewarp again!!!!
Sel Appa
16-02-2008, 04:52
Seriously...I'm not at all suprised by this.

Prux is just pure awesome.
Dancougar
16-02-2008, 05:17
He forgot Launchpad.
Blouman Empire
16-02-2008, 06:14
What factors are taken into consideration when deciding the rankings
Vephrall
16-02-2008, 06:24
What factors are taken into consideration when deciding the rankings

They are entirely based on past performance, which is measured in terms of points per game on the standard 3/1/0 win/draw/loss system.

Tournaments are weighted based on importance and how long ago they took place. The multipliers (from most recent to oldest):

World Cup: x8, x4, x2
World Cup qualifying: x4, x2, x1
Cup of Harmony: x1.5, x0.75, x0.375
Baptism of Fire: x1, x0.5

Only the last three of each competition are taken into account (and only the last two BoFs).
Qazox
16-02-2008, 06:39
HEy those are some great ideas... I'M CLAIMING THEM IN ADVANCE!!!

To bad I own the copyright on them... at least when it comes to your claims. Anyone else want them??.. Please??? With whipped cream and a cherry on top????.. PLEASE????? taeshan I'm looking in your direction....lol :)
Sel Appa
16-02-2008, 06:52
Don't Encourage him, please!!!

Bad enough he's used sentient cheese, professional wrestlers, 6 foot tall sandwiches, and bad puns, and now Robotic Ducks? What's next, Vampiric cabbages? or perhaps Giant cigar-smoking Gophers?

I love his RPs. They definitely contributed significantly to his BoF win. Therefore, GO ON PRUX! GO ON!

Btw, I hope to meet you in the CoH. :)

And also, Caf I hope you don't mind that one of my players is the son of Cafundeuan immigrants...
Qazox
16-02-2008, 07:01
I love his RPs. They definitely contributed significantly to his BoF win. Therefore, GO ON PRUX! GO ON!


I hope that Prux takes a long drive off a short cliff...J/k Prux.
Jeruselem
16-02-2008, 08:02
Keep it up Prux! :D
Qazox
16-02-2008, 08:09
God.... Prux must have some good dirt on you 2 clods... thought his RPing is still better than taeshan's
Jeru FC
16-02-2008, 08:20
God.... Prux must have some good dirt on you 2 clods... thought his RPing is still better than taeshan's

He's just very amusing, and unique in his own way.
All big RPers have their own idiosyncratic signature styles.
Krytenia
16-02-2008, 14:08
FYI Prux, sentient vegetrables have been done, as have flesh-eating tomatoes.

Zombie potatoes, though, you could do. :D
Blouman Empire
16-02-2008, 17:13
They are entirely based on past performance, which is measured in terms of points per game on the standard 3/1/0 win/draw/loss system.

Tournaments are weighted based on importance and how long ago they took place. The multipliers (from most recent to oldest):

World Cup: x8, x4, x2
World Cup qualifying: x4, x2, x1
Cup of Harmony: x1.5, x0.75, x0.375
Baptism of Fire: x1, x0.5

Only the last three of each competition are taken into account (and only the last two BoFs).

Ok so as I won 4 games and drew 2 in the qualifyers then I am given a total of 14 pointsx4 for a total of 56 points, next time I will be regardless of my results this will mean a total of 28 points.

Once all the points are added then what are you then ranked in accordance with the number of points you have?
Vephrall
16-02-2008, 17:22
Ok so as I won 4 games and drew 2 in the qualifyers then I am given a total of 14 pointsx4 for a total of 56 points, next time I will be regardless of my results this will mean a total of 28 points.

Once all the points are added then what are you then ranked in accordance with the number of points you have?

Almost. You have to divide the number of points by the number of games played, so you get (14/14)*4 = 4 points. And yes, that'll be 2 points next time around.

And yep, that's all that goes into the rankings - we just sort them from highest to lowest. More points = higher ranking.
Starblaydia
16-02-2008, 18:12
The details of Starblaydia's bid for the Baptism of Fire have now been posted in the Uber-Bid thread, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13456137&postcount=17).
Daehanjeiguk
17-02-2008, 00:53
God, I hope that we actually go to war (SIC of course) during the World Cup!!!!!!!!!!

A good reason to practice war!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, I have a RP theme already, but we can always try doing two RP schemes...



Oh, and as always (for the last 3 cups at least), the OFC will be opening for a Fourth time after the Cup of Harmony (because we like the opportunity to host anything at anytime, as long as we get money).
Quakmybush
17-02-2008, 02:08
yay qualifying and whatnot
Blouman Empire
17-02-2008, 02:12
Almost. You have to divide the number of points by the number of games played, so you get (14/14)*4 = 4 points. And yes, that'll be 2 points next time around.

And yep, that's all that goes into the rankings - we just sort them from highest to lowest. More points = higher ranking.

Thanks
Elves Security Forces
17-02-2008, 03:35
Host Note

Just a reminder to all those interested in the draw for the Proper that it will be taking place on Espernet on IRC in approximatrely 25 minutes in #nssport.
Qazox
17-02-2008, 05:35
I got drawn into a group that I could advance in.

(now i just screwed myself over... :()