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I've never played against the Monks once in 28 cups and ... now I play them 3 times in the same cup.

I've never played against the Monks once in 28 cups and ... now I play them 3 times in the same cup.

Making up for lost time ;)

Making up for lost time ;)

The two great religious extremes had to clash some time :p

I'm presuming no-one's bothered to read my BoF bid - I assumed that

DOUBLE RP BONUS MATCHDAYS

...would provide at least a minor talking point. Ah well, guess it wasn't obvious enough.

I'm presuming no-one's bothered to read my BoF bid - I assumed that

DOUBLE RP BONUS MATCHDAYS

...would provide at least a minor talking point. Ah well, guess it wasn't obvious enough.

I saw it and shrugged. It's the BoF, we're there to encourage RPing, so meh. The only downside I can see is the newbies end up thinking that RPing (WC-wise) will earn you enough bonus to win.

I've never played against the Monks once in 28 cups and ... now I play them 3 times in the same cup.

Amazing how you can never seem to spell "Vephrall" right though. :D

God, I hope that we actually go to war (SIC of course) during the World Cup!!!!!!!!!!

Well, actually, I thought the seafood pizza would turn the Emperor into "ooh, ok no war." But saying that, if you really want war, A) I already have an RP idea for us to be all "ooh pizza" then "zomgs they're trying to kill us!" and B) we should do it in another thread so if it does continue after WC39 then we won't keep the thread cluttered.

Sorth, you'd be invited too. Either way, tg me and we'll discuss getting a thread started.

Also, Han, your RPs are seriously lolariffic.

What factors would be used in determining the double-bonus days?I'm not sold on the idea, but don't really have any say in the matter when it comes to the BoF so didn't bother to comment...
And not that it's a big problem, but Quakmybush was left off the schedule for matchday 3, either that or Novapsolu gets the Uberdome to themselves :p

And not that it's a big problem, but Quakmybush was left off the schedule for matchday 3, either that or Novapsolu gets the Uberdome to themselves :p
Oh, the plan was to have Novapsolu split into two teams and set an attendance record for five-a-side football. Now you’ve ruined it… :p

I saw it and shrugged. It's the BoF, we're there to encourage RPing, so meh. The only downside I can see is the newbies end up thinking that RPing (WC-wise) will earn you enough bonus to win.

Yeah, because vets don't think that at all.

What factors would be used in determining the double-bonus days?

Middle of the group stage, beginning of the knock-outs, that sort of thing.

I saw it and shrugged. It's the BoF, we're there to encourage RPing, so meh. The only downside I can see is the newbies end up thinking that RPing (WC-wise) will earn you enough bonus to win.

OMGZ GUYS YOU MEAN THAT I WAS DESTINED FOR EPIC FAIL?!!??!!!eleventyone!?! :-D

Maybe if NS supported the blink tag you could've gotten more attention. Nothing garners attention like a good blink tag. It would be like 1998 all over again.

Perhaps an animated gif which said 'Welcome' and span around. On fire. On a black background. Which took 20 seconds to download.

Kinda like Myspace only without broadband.

I've never played against the Monks once in 28 cups and ... now I play them 3 times in the same cup.

It happens now and again, I seem to remember playing Wentland three times in one cup, which was especially impressive because he was quite new at the time.

Well, actually, I thought the seafood pizza would turn the Emperor into "ooh, ok no war." But saying that, if you really want war, A) I already have an RP idea for us to be all "ooh pizza" then "zomgs they're trying to kill us!" and B) we should do it in another thread so if it does continue after WC39 then we won't keep the thread cluttered.

Sorth, you'd be invited too. Either way, tg me and we'll discuss getting a thread started.

Also, Han, your RPs are seriously lolariffic.

Ok, rather lazy at the minute so I can't be arsed to tg you so :p. Anyway, I'll tg tomorrow or we can talk aboot it on IRC.

Perhaps an animated gif which said 'Welcome' and span around. On fire. On a black background. Which took 20 seconds to download.

Kinda like Myspace only without broadband.

Or the forty year old men pretending to be hot 18 year old girls.

Ok, rather lazy at the minute so I can't be arsed to tg you so :p. Anyway, I'll tg tomorrow or we can talk aboot it on IRC.

I meant you and the Hanman to be honest :p

It happens now and again, I seem to remember playing Wentland three times in one cup, which was especially impressive because he was quite new at the time.

I think that happened with me and Az a few cups ago. Not to mention I've played like 8-12 matches with him.

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper1098/stills/qu0u53si.jpg


This is pure awesome. I wonder how they prove it. And where is it...

I meant you and the Hanman to be honest :p

Well yeah obviously, but you'd need me to discuss my paricipation. :p

Yes we did Sel. And I'll pick up a third game against C&M this time. What confuses me is how we've gotten Demot again.

Considering both nations started in WC30 to be playing our sixth game in the cup proper is rather ridiculous.

It seems that a lot of teams are seeing random rematches this cup. I seem to be playing Caf in anything we can find. :p

Last cup I played Novapsolu 3 times... this time I'll play Casari for the third time.

Fmjphoenix aren't in playing in the WC anymore, I played against them a lot:

WC32: World Cup group stage (1 game)
WC33: World Cup qualifying stage (2 games)
WC34: World Cup qualifying stage (2 games)
WC35: World Cup qualifying stage (2 games)

Sel, I liked the Cafundelense immigrant player... and his name really means turtle in portuguese...

Does anyone know of a program that makes kits? I feel the need to improve the simple graphic that I've used for the past ten cups...

Photoshop Sel. :p

Or I could make some for you using the template I use for mine. They should be on my roster page. Can only do you the shirts though.

Photoshop Sel. :p

Or I could make some for you using the template I use for mine. They should be on my roster page. Can only do you the shirts though.

If I could get Photoshop, maybe...

All I need right now is a shirt actually...If you could make me one plain solid blue. I need a back view that says:
ESTEVEZ
20

in yellow. If you can, don't worry about it though...

Vephrall's most common opponent is Kura-Pelland, but that doesn't really count because three of those four matches were friendlies.

After that, it's a tie between C&M, Kansiov, and Sel Appa. After Kura-Pelland (our geographical neighbors), I'd have to say C&M are our biggest rivals.

Jeruselem's fave qualifier team was Giant Zuchini and in the group stage, probably Qazox. In the finals stage, err Starblaydia.

I think my most Common Opponent ever is: Wentland (5 meetings) In the Cup itself it will be tied between Jeruselem and Cafundeu (twice)

Our most common opponent is... one of them. That's about as focused I am.

Our most common opponent is... one of them. That's about as focused I am.

I'm with Cas on this one. Basing it off of World Cup 26 I would say it's The Lowland Clans but things might have changed since then, I really don't know.

I haven't had much time to play people to be "competitive" with any one particular team.

However, I have played two of the three teams in my group.

Q-WC38
Daehanjeiguk 2-4 Tynelia
Tynelia 4-1 Daehanjeiguk

Q-WC36
Wentland 2-1 Daehanjeiguk
Daehanjeiguk 1-1 Wentland


Not too enlightening...

I haven't had much time to play people to be "competitive" with any one particular team.

However, I have played two of the three teams in my group.

Q-WC38
Daehanjeiguk 2-4 Tynelia
Tynelia 4-1 Daehanjeiguk

Q-WC36
Wentland 2-1 Daehanjeiguk
Daehanjeiguk 1-1 Wentland


Not too enlightening...

At least you qualified.

Hmm I think this is the second or third WC where I fell into the same group as Our Brothers in Orthodoxy The Archregimancy.

Too bad I didn't have internet to RP out all the matches in this WC...

I played Qazox for the fifth and sixth times this cup, which moves them into a tie with Northern Bettia for my most common opponent. But I don't consider the Pheonix a rival to the degree of the Fire Ants.

In the proper, Ariddia and Cafundéu (three times each). They were also in my first qualifying group.

As mentioned in the RP thread, Yafor 2, the Holy Empire, and I were all in the same qualifying group in WC38.

I’ve played Cockbill Street eleven times. Try beating that—unless you’re Bedistan or Liverpool England, because I know they can :p

I’ve played Cockbill Street eleven times. Try beating that—unless you’re Bedistan or Liverpool England, because I know they can :p

In those 11 games against CS you'll have faced nearly as many trolls as there are on the NS forums.

I’ve played Cockbill Street eleven times. Try beating that—unless you’re Bedistan or Liverpool England, because I know they can :p

And against each other, probably. :p

My records indeed show Liverpool England as Bedistan's most frequent opponent, with ten matchups - however, I stopped keeping records after WC25. I'm sure we played them at least twice in WCs 26-32. ;)

If I could get Photoshop, maybe...

All I need right now is a shirt actually...If you could make me one plain solid blue. I need a back view that says:
ESTEVEZ
20

in yellow. If you can, don't worry about it though...

This ok Sel? Used a slightly different template to what I use for my kits as I feel this one looks more like the back of a shirt.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/766/estevezme1.png (http://imageshack.us)

i think Bettia still leads my most played nation though its been a few cups now since we crossed paths. i think i'm like 1-1-5 against them- they've been ducking me since my team finally got decent ;)

as far as the Cup itself goes it seems i run into Arridia a lot it seems like.

oddly i don;t think despite being WC27 initiates to this thing that Qazox and I have ever been in the same group- no wait i take that back, they knocked me out a few cups back when all i needed was a draw i think to knock Jeruselem out of the knockouts. i am sure we never met in qualifiers though...maybe.

Candelaria And Marquez is my new favorite nation.

(from the RP thread)
"My humble prediction? Squornshelous to be loosing finalists once more, this time against Tynelia, with Demot taking third place from Ariddia"

This ok Sel? Used a slightly different template to what I use for my kits as I feel this one looks more like the back of a shirt.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/766/estevezme1.png (http://imageshack.us)

That's good. Thanks. If you don't mind, I'll be hosting it myself as well.

EDIT: Actually, the font is a little non-jerseyish. It's fine, but if you know a better font...

EDIT: Actually, the font is a little non-jerseyish. It's fine, but if you know a better font...

Ok, was trying to go for something like the Joma font from a year or two back, but I'll see what a few other look like.

Ok, was trying to go for something like the Joma font from a year or two back, but I'll see what a few other look like.

Ok, also leave it up on imageshack. I can't seem to upload to photobucket anymore. Probably my internet, but who knows.

OK, I'm back from Brussels and the painkillers I'm on aren't completely destroying my capacity to think coherently too much any more - so have I missed anything?

...
so have I missed anything?
no - we're glad you're alright though

i have played the holy empire 4 times in 3 cups

Candelaria And Marquez is my new favorite nation.

(from the RP thread)
"My humble prediction? Squornshelous to be loosing finalists once more, this time against Tynelia, with Demot taking third place from Ariddia"

The Albrecht Herald editorial staff (Sport section) would like to take this opportunity to make it clear that the views expressed by Tracker Edwards are his own, and do not necessarily reflect those of the paper or Candelaria And Marquez in general.

That said, if it helps any, I’d like to add that the Albrecht Mercury has plumped for Jeruselem, the Gassett Candelariasian for Ariddia, the Albrecht Republican for Az-cz, El periodico del Arrigo for Squornshelous, the Daily News for the Capitalizt SLANI, the Morning Chronicle of Abiodun for Cafundéu, the Zapata Post-Star for Zwangzug, the National Reporter for Bostopia, the Clotaire Trumpet for Wentland, Diario Castillo for the Holy Empire, Noticias en las islas for Milchama, the Lavange Evening Telegraph for Demot, the Rose of Sharon Observer for Bettia, the Lavange Daily Free Press for Qazox, the Irish Street Times for Sorthern Northland and the Southerntown Constitution for Dance2Revolution, for some reason.

Nobody goes for the Eesseff, perhaps unsurprisingly, but on the Republic’s behalf I pass on to the good people, after a fashion, of Valanora my thanks for their immense and ever-increasing contribution towards the C&M page on the National Adjectives thread.

Or the forty year old men pretending to be hot 18 year old girls.
I appear to be backwards; I'm a 26-year-old man pregtending to be a forty-year-old woman. Go figure.

methinks Sorthern Northland needs to be more explicit if he wants to say anything:

1. 나귀를 폭발성 남근 모양으로 만든 성구에 채우고 위로 불십시요.
(The Donkeys will please fill their penises with explosives and comfort them in fire.)

3. 나락에 그들을 모두 불십시요.
(In hell they will all burn please.)

7. 나귀 쉬에 나라를 범람하십시요.
(The Donkeys will please while hissing flood the country.)

Your Supreme General is awfully polite nonetheless.

That's Babbelfish. ;)

That's Babbelfish. ;)

I don't like Internet translators, especially for Asian languages.

That said, perhaps the most controversial Group of the Cup of Harmony ever has just taken place here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13463377&postcount=34) (sorry, IRC hates me).

The annotated version is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13463440&postcount=35).

I don't like Internet translators, especially for Asian languages.

That said, perhaps the most controversial Group of the Cup of Harmony ever has just taken place here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13463377&postcount=34) (sorry, IRC hates me).

The annotated version is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13463440&postcount=35).

That was quite amusing, but I can't get your characters straight >_>

I'm trying to imagine a way to incorporate something I heard in class today into one of my RPs, but unable to do it, I am going to settle for the simple recall.

A: 你把书给我。
(Give me your book.)

B: 对不起，把书我喝了。
(I'm sorry. My book, I drank it.)

I'm trying to imagine a way to incorporate something I heard in class today into one of my RPs, but unable to do it, I am going to settle for the simple recall.

A: 你把书给我。
(Give me your book.)

B: 对不起，把书我喝了。
(I'm sorry. My book, I drank it.)

Just nitpicking, not sure if you meant to write that as Korean hanja or Chinese characters, but if it's the latter, "把" isn't the descriptive for "book", it's "本". "把" (correctly used in A) is more of a request, there's no real direct translation. Think "Take your book (把书) and give it to me (给我)".

I don't like Internet translators, especially for Asian languages.

Aye they can be a bit crap. Especially babbelfish. Oh well should be ok for a silly war though. :p

Oh and Sel, here's the kit with a different font.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9532/estevezry6.png (http://imageshack.us) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4860/estevezme4.png (http://imageshack.us)http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7727/estevezuv8.png (http://imageshack.us)

Just nitpicking, not sure if you meant to write that as Korean hanja or Chinese characters, but if it's the latter, "把" isn't the descriptive for "book", it's "本". "把" (correctly used in A) is more of a request, there's no real direct translation. Think "Take your book (把书) and give it to me (给我)".

I know that...

And it was supposed to be Chinese because it happened in Chinese class...

We were practicing using the "把" structure. The person who gave the answer was thinking about what the last person said: 对不起，我把水喝了。 I'm guessing that he either forgot that he was talking about the book or he wasn't talking about the water.

I'm trying to imagine a way to incorporate something I heard in class today into one of my RPs, but unable to do it, I am going to settle for the simple recall.

A: 你把书给我。
(Give me your book.)

B: 对不起，把书我喝了。
(I'm sorry. My book, I drank it.)

I drink my books all the time...

ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG!

(I actually have no clue what that means, but I know people like to use it)

I drink my books all the time...

Congratulations! I hear it's a good source of fiber (at least the non-plastic ones).

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ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG ZOMFG!

(I actually have no clue what that means, but I know people like to use it)

ZOMBIES OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!?

or ZOO ON MY FLIPPING GRILL!!!

or

ZULUS OVER MOUNT FUJI, GIRL!!!

Maybe not.

Speaking of which, I hope that my last post in the RP thread was not a blatant BSGM.

Balloon size greatly massive?

T-t-t-t-t-timewarp/

ZOMBIES OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!?

or ZOO ON MY FLIPPING GRILL!!!

or

ZULUS OVER MOUNT FUJI, GIRL!!!

Maybe not.

Speaking of which, I hope that my last post in the RP thread was not a blatant BSGM.

It's definitely ZWANGZUGIAN ORANGUTANS MAKING FACIAL GESTURES.

Duh.

bull$hit godmod

Well no more than an exploding donkey penis. :D

Excessive timewarping may become addictive.

I bwas wondering if someone could make me some new jerseys. I would like All darkish purple as home with a green numbers and if pos. a Montague written on top back(goalie would be number 1)also for the goalie i would like a blood red goalie jersey. And for away games im wond. if someone could make me a purple top and blue bottom and green socked jersey.(name montague on back)goalie jersey could be bright pink. Also i'm taking in names for what i should name my new countries team name as. The country is called kosovoe(see)and just wondering your thoughts.

Balloon size greatly massive?

T-t-t-t-t-timewarp/

bull$hit godmod

It's definitely ZWANGZUGIAN ORANGUTANS MAKING FACIAL GESTURES.

Duh.

Thanks! By the way, I've heard that it can mean: Zoinks! Orgasm Mechanism Failure! Gasp!

Which is why you can do OMF! ZOMF! or OMFG!

Don't worry, I live in the future, so it's perfectly normal according to me.

Fair enough then.

/Wonders whether this will show up before Han's post.

Yep :D

Well no more than an exploding donkey penis. :D

Excessive timewarping may become addictive.

Don't worry, I live in the future, so it's perfectly normal according to me.

Interesting trivia bit: All 5 teams that advanced from qualifying for CoH 30 have returned for CoH 31 (Lovisa, Scotchpinestan, myself, Estresse Intenso, and Taeshan).

Aye they can be a bit crap. Especially babbelfish. Oh well should be ok for a silly war though. :p

Oh and Sel, here's the kit with a different font.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7727/estevezuv8.png

That's perfect. Thanks much. *sends free case of assorted Sel Appan cuisine*

Zwangzug, I Forgot that I've now played you 6 times.. Guess your my big rival, (although technically Tynelia is, fellow 27ers and such.)

oddly i don;t think despite being WC27 initiates to this thing that Qazox and I have ever been in the same group- no wait i take that back, they knocked me out a few cups back when all i needed was a draw i think to knock Jeruselem out of the knockouts. i am sure we never met in qualifiers though...maybe.

Nope we've only met twice in fact, The Group stage of our Baptism of Fire and World Cup 35. The Series is tied at 1-1, 2-0 Tynelia in the BoF, 1-0 Qazox in WC35.

Y&B2 will play Rejistania three times now... 2 times in WC an once in CoH

<monotone>I believe the result was both fair and just and hold no opinions either way on the subject of fairness yes none at all</monotone>

*wanders off, doing fistpumps and seemingly breaking the space-time continuum*

Y&B2 will play Rejistania three times now... 2 times in WC an once in CoH

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t156/daehanjeiguk/WRONG.jpg

UGH

So should I start whining now or wait until Wednesday?

How about yesterday?

Yes, try timewarping back to the future to whine.

Ha Har and again.

UGH

So should I start whining now or wait until Wednesday?

How about yesterday?

How about yesterday?

NM i didn't post anything here!

Apparently, I live about 10 minutes in the future.

I didn't lose to a lower ranked team YESTERDAY.

It was a friendly suggestion. I'll probably join you tomorrow.

You people seriously need to hurry up! I'm tired of living all alone in the future. Come over to my time!!!

You people seriously need to hurry up! I'm tired of living all alone in the future. Come over to my time!!!

/Me attempts to.

Wahey finally, I'm not in the past, or Han's not in the future or perhaps we're all living in an alternate reality with a different time controlled by prawns now?

Prux is in control of our time?

God help us all. :p

I'd feel bad if I had lost to Casari too, though. That guy's a bastard, and I have it on rather good authority that he's a hamster as well.

Prux is in control of our time?

God help us all. :p

BOW TO THE MASTER OF TIME AND SPACE!!!!!

<Laughs evilly whilst stroking a cat>

BOW TO THE MASTER OF TIME AND SPACE!!!!!

<Laughs evilly whilst stroking a cat>

Erm? Do you mind? That's my pussy your stroking.

LET the time-warping Continue!!!!

And SN, I didn't know your pussy was a hairless one :rolleyes:

LET the time-warping Continue!!!!

And SN, I didn't know your pussy was a hairless one :rolleyes:

Oh yes, shave it regularly. You like?

GAWD

u2 get a room.

I'd feel bad if I had lost to Casari too, though. That guy's a bastard, and I have it on rather good authority that he's a hamster as well.

Damn hampsters... They've always hated me.

In a Semi-Serious note:

Qazox has formally recognized Kosovo.

Wentland formerly recognized Kosovo, but now confuses it with Albania.

Wentland formerly recognized Kosovo, but now confuses it with Albania.

Common mistake ;)

The Archregimancy refuses to recognise Kosovo; while condemning violence towards the local population of any ethnicity, the territory should be taken out of the hands of secular authorities and placed under the direct rule of the Patriarch of Belgrade in order to protect the Serbian monasteries that have been there since at least the 14th century.


[Just in case there was any doubt, this was an IC post]

I appear to be backwards; I'm a 26-year-old man pregtending to be a forty-year-old woman. Go figure.

I'm a 39 year old man pretending to be an octagenarian Orthodox monk.

Pick up that phone for a really hot Troparion of St. James the Lesser, baby.

Sorthern Northland and therefore it's puppet An Blascaod Mor still formally recognises the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the German Democratic Republic. We also formally recognise the Republic of Somaliland.

Wentland formerly recognized Kosovo, but now confuses it with Albania.

They were waving the same flag, you'd be surprised how easy it is to confuse two flags that are both red with a twin-headed black bird thing on them.

Lovisa and Scotchpinestan, you two can thank me later for your group stage eliminations from the CoH.:p


(for those who don't have any idea why I said that, just go read my predictions from early in CoH 30 and see how the teams I predicted to do very well did, and then go read my prediction post for CoH 31)

Lovisa and Scotchpinestan, you two can thank me later for your group stage eliminations from the CoH.:p


(for those who don't have any idea why I said that, just go read my predictions from early in CoH 30 and see how the teams I predicted to do very well did, and then go read my prediction post for CoH 31)

I wouldn't be too bothered about the Hopeless "kiss of death".

Sorthern Northland finished top of our qualifying group the World Cup after being given it. :p

Hmm I'm sure I posted something earlier about formally recognising or not recognising Kosovo, amongst other "nations". Meh

They were waving the same flag, you'd be surprised how easy it is to confuse two flags that are both red with a twin-headed black bird thing on them.


Pedantic correction: while the red flag with black double-headed eagle has been widely used symbolically by the ethnic Albanian pro-independence forces in Kosovo (in Brussels this past Sunday, for example, Kosovars were driving down the streets madly honking their horns while draping said flag over their cars), it remains the official state flag of Albania only.

According to the reports I read this morning, the official flag of the Republic of Kosovo features a blue field on which is centrally placed a yellow map of Kosovo, over which in turn are 5 or 6 yellow stars.

Quite frankly, it's immediately gained the status of the ugliest flag in Europe - even worse than that Bosnian abomination - and I'd be waving the Albanian flag too if I had a choice.

But to move this discussion vaguely towards football... does this mean we have to put up with yet another small team of group bottom feeders who accomplish nothing except allowing San Marino or Andorra the opportunity to score a goal. And hasn't the 2010 World Cup qualifying draw already been made - can they even attempt to qualify for 2010?

Pedantic correction: while the red flag with black double-headed eagle has been widely used symbolically by the ethnic Albanian pro-independence forces in Kosovo (in Brussels this past Sunday, for example, Kosovars were driving down the streets madly honking their horns while draping said flag over their cars), it remains the official state flag of Albania only.

According to the reports I read this morning, the official flag of the Republic of Kosovo features a blue field on which is centrally placed a yellow map of Kosovo, over which in turn are 5 or 6 yellow stars.

Quite frankly, it's immediately gained the status of the ugliest flag in Europe - even worse than that Bosnian abomination - and I'd be waving the Albanian flag too if I had a choice.

But to move this discussion vaguely towards football... does this mean we have to put up with yet another small team of group bottom feeders who accomplish nothing except allowing San Marino or Andorra the opportunity to score a goal. And hasn't the 2010 World Cup qualifying draw already been made - can they even attempt to qualify for 2010?

Their FA have existed for a number of years, all it requires is FIFA and UEFA recognition. If Kosovo felt inclined to, they could send a delegation to Beijing 2008 as the IOC have recognised Kosovo's independence.

But to move this discussion vaguely towards football... does this mean we have to put up with yet another small team of group bottom feeders who accomplish nothing except allowing San Marino or Andorra the opportunity to score a goal. And hasn't the 2010 World Cup qualifying draw already been made - can they even attempt to qualify for 2010?

Flag of Kosovo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Kosovo) for anyone who has some spare time.


Oi! San Marino are quality. They scored against Ireland. IRELAND! And we only just beat them. Very underrated imo. *Hopes no one realises how crap we Irish are at the moment. :(

Anyway's firstly I doubt they'll be in UEFA any time soon as not all that many of the 53 UEFA members have recognised them, but if they do join UEFA soon I think they could be squeezed in. There was talk of Montenegro being put in the Euro 2008 qualifiers, but FIFA didn't ratify them in time or something.

But to move this discussion vaguely towards football... does this mean we have to put up with yet another small team of group bottom feeders who accomplish nothing except allowing San Marino or Andorra the opportunity to score a goal. And hasn't the 2010 World Cup qualifying draw already been made - can they even attempt to qualify for 2010?


Oi! San Marino are quality. They scored against Ireland. IRELAND! And we only just beat them. Very underrated imo. *Hopes no one realises how crap we Irish are at the moment. :(

Anyway's firstly I doubt they'll be in UEFA any time soon as not all that many of the 53 UEFA members have recognised them, but if they do join UEFA soon I think they could be squeezed in. There was talk of Montenegro being put in the Euro 2008 qualifiers, but FIFA didn't ratify them in time or something.


Flag of Kosovo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Kosovo) for anyone who has some spare time.

Pedantic correction: while the red flag with black double-headed eagle has been widely used symbolically by the ethnic Albanian pro-independence forces in Kosovo (in Brussels this past Sunday, for example, Kosovars were driving down the streets madly honking their horns while draping said flag over their cars), it remains the official state flag of Albania only.

Yes, you ware very much a pedanct, though I had assumed that the Albanian ethnic group were waving their own flag, and that it wasn't the actual flag of Kosovo - minor attempt at humour on my part.

I noticed on the news they were also waving American, British, French and god-knows how many other 'Western' flags to show their fiercely pro-West stance.

Nice of them.

I noticed on the news they were also waving American, British, French and god-knows how many other 'Western' flags to show their fiercely pro-West stance.

Nice of them.

I think it may be rather to publicise the fact that the US, UK and France have officially recognised Kosovo's independence. I could be wrong, though.

I think it may be rather to publicise the fact that the US, UK and France have officially recognised Kosovo's independence. I could be wrong, though.

This was on the day they declared the independence, rather than the day after, which is when they have been officially recognised.

UEFA and FIFA would have to stop being a blight on the world to admit them, which seems unlikely as they seem to enjoy it so much.

This was on the day they declared the independence, rather than the day after, which is when they have been officially recognised.

Ah, OK.

On the topic of Kosovo and international sports... Kosovo unlikely to be able to field team for 2008 Olympics (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gPRu0r3LQFjaVCS0q6pCS1OPpI0QD8USTEBG0)

Bostopia wishes to declare it's recognition of Prussia. I'll do a map of how "we'd see the world" shortly (if we were existant in RL, that is ;))

Bostopia wishes to declare it's recognition of Prussia. I'll do a map of how "we'd see the world" shortly (if we were existant in RL, that is ;))

Would you recognise us? As the shithole of the world or something?

Would you recognise us? As the shithole of the world or something?

Why would I recognise Reading as a seperate nation? You're part of Greater Coventry ffs.

Sorthern Northland's in Reading?

God this is confusing, the first map said Central Europe, another says a made up continent, then it was Malta, now it's in Reading? :confused:

Just an FYI to Sorthern Northland,

* If Sorthern Northland fails to drop our unlucky crickets over Bostopia effectively covering the country in a blanket of unlucky crickets, we will likely drop our own load of unlucky crickets over you.

* If Sorthern Northland cooks our crickets in a giant soup, we will n00k you (try to at least).

* If Sorthern Northland successfully drops our crickets over Bostopia and any link is rumored to exist between the Han Empire and the dropping of the crickets, we will categorically deny any involvement and try to clear our name by bombing Sorthern Northland.

* If any evidence appears, we will do anything at all to eradicate this evidence.

* If all goes well... well... then it's going to be really boring.

Bostopia wishes to declare it's recognition of Prussia. I'll do a map of how "we'd see the world" shortly (if we were existant in RL, that is ;))

Korea had better be on that map, owning China, Japan, Taiwan, and pretty every place west of Iran.

Just an FYI to Sorthern Northland,

* If Sorthern Northland fails to drop our unlucky crickets over Bostopia effectively covering the country in a blanket of unlucky crickets, we will likely drop our own load of unlucky crickets over you.

* If Sorthern Northland cooks our crickets in a giant soup, we will n00k you (try to at least).

* If Sorthern Northland successfully drops our crickets over Bostopia and any link is rumored to exist between the Han Empire and the dropping of the crickets, we will categorically deny any involvement and try to clear our name by bombing Sorthern Northland.

* If any evidence appears, we will do anything at all to eradicate this evidence.

* If all goes well... well... then it's going to be really boring.

* If you cover us in unlucky crickets, our flying donkeys will defecate all over The Han Empire.

* We won't be making any soup but after you.... er we attacked Tutuland we would like to know where you'd get any n00ks from?

* Why have a load of Han citizens carrying a load of crickets just stolen all our air forces planes?

* Don't worry, Trig is still in hospital and therefore cannot accidentally give any evidence to anyone.

* Well? What does that mean?

We officially recognize kosovo as a nation.

And on a smaller note for future reference a world with prussia should have a world with the us owning Yukon, Nunavut, NW Terr., BC, alberta, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Prince Edward island, nova scotia, and Saskathchewan AS US STATES.
Ontario would be known as Canada and Quebec would be quebec and New Hamshireland.
Weve made a great trade really all that for NH

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF MYSELF


IN MY BED, February 19, 2008


The unanimous Declaration of myself.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one person to
dissolve the political bands which have connected him with others, and
to assume, among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle him, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that he should declare the
causes which impel him to the separation. Which is, basically, if it's good enough
for some tinpot Balkan province, it's good enough for me; I can further state that
in a referendum I held 30 seconds ago, I voted 100% for succession and personal
sovereignty, and therefore am fully backed by my democratic right to self-determination.

I hereby declare my independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland, and invite other sovereign powers to recognise my status as an independent
personal nation state forthwith. My territory shall consist of my own inviolate person
and wherever I happen to be sitting, standing or lying at any particular point, though
control of that territory shall immediately revert to the previous sovereign owner following
the end of my temporary occupation of that territory.

As a sovereign state, I also declare that I am no longer subject to the laws of the United
Kingdom, and no longer liable to pay taxes to a state from which I have seceded.

Yours,

The Nation of Me

* If you cover us in unlucky crickets, our flying donkeys will defecate all over The Han Empire.

* We won't be making any soup but after you.... er we attacked Tutuland we would like to know where you'd get any n00ks from?

* Why have a load of Han citizens carrying a load of crickets just stolen all our air forces planes?

* Don't worry, Trig is still in hospital and therefore cannot accidentally give any evidence to anyone.

* Well? What does that mean?

* Don't worry, we're already covered in shit.

* We'll try asking someone else to do it for us... again, I suppose. Otherwise, we'll actually have to mobilize and deploy our own nuclear forces to do the job (we'd prefer someone else do it though, because we do have the no-first-strike policy).

* *takes off in airplane*

* At least we agree on this point (too bad for us I guess...).

* Well, that means no good RP bonus.

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF MYSELF


IN MY BED, February 19, 2008


The unanimous Declaration of myself.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one person to
dissolve the political bands which have connected him with others, and
to assume, among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle him, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that he should declare the
causes which impel him to the separation. Which is, basically, if it's good enough
for some tinpot Balkan province, it's good enough for me; I can further state that
in a referendum I held 30 seconds ago, I voted 100% for succession and personal
sovereignty, and therefore am fully backed by my democratic right to self-determination.

I hereby declare my independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland, and invite other sovereign powers to represent my status as an independent
personal nation state forthwith. My territory shall consist of my own inviolate person
and wherever I happen to be sitting, standing or lying at any particular point, though
control of that territory shall immediately revert to the previous sovereign owner following
the end of my temporary occupation of that territory.

As a sovereign state, I also declare that I am no longer subject to the laws of the United
Kingdom, and no longer liable to pay taxes to a state from which I have seceded.

Yours,

The Nation of Me

Yeah, good luck with that.

I unilaterally declare myself independent of my marbles.

I unilaterally declare myself independent of my marbles.

Hardly necessary; I think that was already universally recognized.

I declare my bedroom as the newly independent state of The Peoples' Democraticly Undemocratic Peoples' Republic of Ben's Bedroom.

The official language of this fine nation shall be English translated into Korean and then back into English by Babelfish.

I recognize this demand. Good fortune it is empty.

(Bensroomese for "I recognise this claim. Good luck.")

Dancougar recognizes the independence of Alabama. In related news, U.S. test scores have skyrocketed, almost to levels of respectability.

We also recognize the act of recognition and second the recreation of an independent Prussia.

We had intended for the aforementioned to be unilaterial, or even just lateral, but upon further review, the ball left the runner's hands and traveled *forward* to the receiver, therefore it is an illegal forward pass on the offense. Ten yard penalty from the previous spot, repeat third down. Pittsburgh is not charged with a timeout.

Pedantic correction: while the red flag with black double-headed eagle has been widely used symbolically by the ethnic Albanian pro-independence forces in Kosovo (in Brussels this past Sunday, for example, Kosovars were driving down the streets madly honking their horns while draping said flag over their cars), it remains the official state flag of Albania only.

Some time back the Kosovars decided they were not going to have a flag at all, oending their imminent reunification with the bounteous paradise that is Shqiperia (btw was I the only one to notice Besa Kavaje finally beating their cup final jinx last season? First Cup win in their eighth final).

They seem to have changed their tune with a flag that looks like it was designed by a committee. Of the blind. And stupid.

One of the alternative designs considered (and rejected) was a black-white-red vertical tricolour with a red spiral in the middle. Was a MUCH better design, simple, effective and distinctive. But whoever decided to put the options to the vote included the very same flag sans spiral. Talk about rigging it by splitting the vote...

The official language of this fine nation shall be English translated into Korean and then back into English by Babelfish.

Crew-serve U of the nation which will be precise the Babelfish and English which it translate with that time English will connect with the Korean language?

I think we should have mandatory naps during the day.

I think we should have mandatory naps during the day.

Veph will be happy... Mexicans as well :p

Crew-serve U of the nation which will be precise the Babelfish and English which it translate with that time English will connect with the Korean language?
I it well or oneself it talked the possibility of doing there was not.

En anglais: I couldn't of said it better myself.

In a Semi-Serious note:

Qazox has formally recognized Kosovo.
I will never recognize Kosovo unless Serbia does. These rebels must be eliminated. Shame that can't happend because of the Western Imperialist juggernaut.

They were waving the same flag, you'd be surprised how easy it is to confuse two flags that are both red with a twin-headed black bird thing on them.
Shows what their ultimate goal is...

Pedantic correction: while the red flag with black double-headed eagle has been widely used symbolically by the ethnic Albanian pro-independence forces in Kosovo (in Brussels this past Sunday, for example, Kosovars were driving down the streets madly honking their horns while draping said flag over their cars), it remains the official state flag of Albania only.

According to the reports I read this morning, the official flag of the Republic of Kosovo features a blue field on which is centrally placed a yellow map of Kosovo, over which in turn are 5 or 6 yellow stars.

Quite frankly, it's immediately gained the status of the ugliest flag in Europe - even worse than that Bosnian abomination - and I'd be waving the Albanian flag too if I had a choice.
I actually like it. Flags with maps on them are pretty cool. Now, it joins Cyprus. Although only Cyprus is a country...

Bostopia wishes to declare it's recognition of Prussia. I'll do a map of how "we'd see the world" shortly (if we were existant in RL, that is ;))
I tried that once, but with 190-something countries, it gets insane when you try to recognize, acknowledge, or don't recognize certain ones. I for one, would recognize Kurdistan, but not Iraq. Somaliland, but not Somalia. Taiwan part of China. Vatican part of Italy. etc...I'll have to get around to this again...

Korea had better be on that map, owning China, Japan, Taiwan, and pretty every place west of Iran.
You mean Mongolia. ;)

bubububu
Sealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand),Conch Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic), among others... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Micronations)

Some time back the Kosovars decided they were not going to have a flag at all, oending their imminent reunification with the bounteous paradise that is Shqiperia (btw was I the only one to notice Besa Kavaje finally beating their cup final jinx last season? First Cup win in their eighth final).

They seem to have changed their tune with a flag that looks like it was designed by a committee. Of the blind. And stupid.

One of the alternative designs considered (and rejected) was a black-white-red vertical tricolour with a red spiral in the middle. Was a MUCH better design, simple, effective and distinctive. But whoever decided to put the options to the vote included the very same flag sans spiral. Talk about rigging it by splitting the vote...
I'll have to look that up...sounds interesting

All it... Percentage grudge, well

(Well, as long as everyone else is doing it...)

On the note of Kosovo...

The Celestial Regency of the Great Han Empire wishes to justify its use of the uber-pwnzor IGNORE cannon on the puny nationstates of Serbia and Kosovo, owing to the juvenile behavior both countries have demonstrated in the past 8 years of ridiculous civil conflict. If they can't get along, then it's obvious that they can't live in the same world as ours.

The Babelfish in order to accommodate the trash which comes out all English use country their British grammar with the fact that must be adapted me it depends hereupon and it orders!

(I hereby mandate that all English speaking countries must adapt their English grammar to accommodate the junk that comes out of Babelfish!)

It's been a while since I visited this fun site: http://tashian.com/multibabel/

It's been a while since I visited this fun site: http://tashian.com/multibabel/

Does the sexual intercourse happen to where my translation?

It's distressing that we're continuing to breathe at this rate, I think.

It's distressing that we're continuing to breathe at this rate, I think.

That we are continuing the breath one thing in this ratio, it is cruel, or it thinks.

It's been a while since I visited this fun site: http://tashian.com/multibabel/

Yay, hours of endless fun. :D

"Come out you black and tans, come out and fight me like a man." becomes "Come out of you blacken and bronzings, leave and
fight me like a man." Yeah I'll fight you when you leave. :p And the *skips a few* and it ends as "It comes outside from you that you blackened and
bronzings, lascili and you fight I I eat man."

Oh God NO!!! Now it thinks I'm a cannibal.

Yay, hours of endless fun. :D

"Come out you black and tans, come out and fight me like a man." becomes "Come out of you blacken and bronzings, leave and
fight me like a man." Yeah I'll fight you when you leave. :p And the *skips a few* and it ends as "It comes outside from you that you blackened and
bronzings, lascili and you fight I I eat man."

Oh God NO!!! Now it thinks I'm a cannibal.

As for carrying freedom, I dies or danger,! So it is

Oh God NO!!! Now it thinks I'm a cannibal.

"thinks"?

;)

"thinks"?

;)

Anymore suggestions of that nature and I'll eat you.

Hmm that didn't really help my image did it?

(In Bensroomese, "That character and me the above proposal to be more extensive and eat. With realness my image Anh Ohio which is not it?")


皇 - GAH! CRICKET EATERS! THE WEST IS FULL OF CRICKET EATERS! OUR LUCK CRICKETS!!!

The Ministry of Being Arses would like to remind everyone that Sortern Northland is not in the Western World. Ok ok so it's in Western Atlantian Oceania but we're not western. We're eastern to the west of the south of the north lands.

(Bensroomese translation: "The SorternNorthland inside the west world when the anus connects the government all wants remaining. Good approval it is like that and it all it is inside west Atlantian Oceania but we are not the intelligence where is not the west. We in the south west of the north ground is to an eastern piece."

But to move this discussion vaguely towards football... does this mean we have to put up with yet another small team of group bottom feeders who accomplish nothing except allowing San Marino or Andorra the opportunity to score a goal. And hasn't the 2010 World Cup qualifying draw already been made - can they even attempt to qualify for 2010?

the IOC has recognized Kosovo already but hasn't approved of them sending a separate team yet, just a matter of time before UEFA and FIFA does. They wouldn't be eligible for the 2010 Euro Cup, i believe. (Montenegro isn't either). I think the IOC will let them compete under the IOC banner, like East Timor did in 2004.

I unilaterally declare myself independent of my marbles.

Qazox recognizes this as well.

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF MYSELF


IN MY BED, February 19, 2008


The unanimous Declaration of myself.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one person to
dissolve the political bands which have connected him with others, and
to assume, among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle him, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that he should declare the
causes which impel him to the separation. Which is, basically, if it's good enough
for some tinpot Balkan province, it's good enough for me; I can further state that
in a referendum I held 30 seconds ago, I voted 100% for succession and personal
sovereignty, and therefore am fully backed by my democratic right to self-determination.

I hereby declare my independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland, and invite other sovereign powers to recognise my status as an independent
personal nation state forthwith. My territory shall consist of my own inviolate person
and wherever I happen to be sitting, standing or lying at any particular point, though
control of that territory shall immediately revert to the previous sovereign owner following
the end of my temporary occupation of that territory.

As a sovereign state, I also declare that I am no longer subject to the laws of the United
Kingdom, and no longer liable to pay taxes to a state from which I have seceded.

Yours,

The Nation of Me

Qazox approves of Fidel Castro stepping down!!! (About damn time.)

Qazox offically recognizes Arch as his own country, along with the following: Quebec, The States of Lincoln, Cascadia and Northern California. We also recognize the independence of the following entities: Chechnya, Western Sahara, Northern Cyprus, Somaliland, South Ossetia, Transnistria, Taiwan, Palestine, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Kurdistan, The Basque Country, Sicily, Scotland, Wales and French Guiana.

Qazox approves of Fidel Castro stepping down!!! (About damn time.)

While it is sad to see him step down, this is the ultimate middle finger at the US which tries to portray him as an evil, mindless dictator. How many dictators step down of their own accord or in the interests of their people? I was hoping he'd wait until he was exactly 50 years in power just cause I'm a numberfanboy like that...but meh.

While it is sad to see him step down, this is the ultimate middle finger at the US which tries to portray him as an evil, mindless dictator. How many dictators step down of their own accord or in the interests of their people? I was hoping he'd wait until he was exactly 50 years in power just cause I'm a numberfanboy like that...but meh.

638 not out.

Not a bad record at all.

Viva Fidel.

Viva Fidel.
You can say that again. In fact, please do! ;)

I just thought I should brag about Sel Appa's awesomeness:
Sel Appa is ranked 1st in the region and 399th in the world for Most Eco-Friendly Governments.
That's TOP 500 of almost 75,000...or over 75,000. Top 0.55% of all nations. I am more environmentally friendly than 99.45% of all NS nations.

Who's your daddy?

the IOC has recognized Kosovo already but hasn't approved of them sending a separate team yet, just a matter of time before UEFA and FIFA does. They wouldn't be eligible for the 2010 Euro Cup, i believe. (Montenegro isn't either). I think the IOC will let them compete under the IOC banner, like East Timor did in 2004.

Probably because there's only a World Cup in 2010.

You can say that again. In fact, please do! ;)

Viva Fidel!

Montenegro are in World Cup 2010. Well the qualifying anyway. Same group are Ireland and I fully expect them to embarrass us. In fact the Kosovo football team probably would.

At least UEFA's little teams get a fair shot, most of the CONCACAF minnows are sent home in the first few weeks by making them eliminate each other for our amusement.

Probably because there's only a World Cup in 2010.

I meant EURO 2008... They'll be in EURO 2012.

At least UEFA's little teams get a fair shot, most of the CONCACAF minnows are sent home in the first few weeks by making them eliminate each other for our amusement.

True, every once in a while one of those minnows makes it to the final stages and wins a match or 2. ie: Haiti in 1974 (made World Cup).

Speaking of South Africa, has anyone else declared their intention to go? I plan to go because it's the World Cup and Africa is one of my favorite places that I'd really like to visit. As long as I can get the funds together, which is pretty likely, I will be going. Hopefully staying with a host family because that's another awesome experience and is cheaper. :)

I'm getting too ahead of myself...

I'm hoping to be able to go. A tournament hosted in Africa should be awesome. But I'll probably still be a lazy student without a job who spends his money on beer so it's unlikely.

I'll go to hockey instead, because I always go to hockey instead, unless the oppertunity to hit the London comes up.

Ugh, I hate international organizations.

But seriously, who else in Africa could put up a legit bid for... well, anything?

I'm hoping to be able to go. A tournament hosted in Africa should be awesome. But I'll probably still be a lazy student without a job who spends his money on beer so it's unlikely.

If they can pull it off well, the might just go for the 2020 Olympics. The IOC president has stated that if an African country could put up a credible bid, it would almost be guaranteed the hosting. If none has won hosting before then, South Africa might just do it.

At least UEFA's little teams get a fair shot, most of the CONCACAF minnows are sent home in the first few weeks by making them eliminate each other for our amusement.

Though Guadeloupe didn't do too badly in the last CONCACAF Gold Cup, mind. Africa tends to winnow out the weaker teams early as well. There have been semi-serious discussions of holding a 'minnows tournament' in UEFA, whereby San Marino, Andorra, etc. would play each other for the right to take up a more limited number of places for the smaller nations in full qualifying. If we get more Kosovos, they may have to, just to keep the qualifying groups manageable.


Incidentally - and I'm asking this out of genuine curiosity, not an attempt to make fun of or belittle him - can someone explain Sel Appa's politics to me? Over recent weeks Sel has 1) noted his admiration of Fidel Castro, 2) declared that he refuses to recognise Kosovo unless Serbia does, as the former is a product of Western Imperialist aggression, 3) expressed his belief that there are no 'Occupied Territories' in Palestine and that Israel legitimately controls the West Bank under international law. Points 1 and 2 seem to go along with each other; I'm having problems getting point 3 to go along with the other two, though.

But seriously, who else in Africa could put up a legit bid for... well, anything?

Ghana has just hosted the 2008 African Cup, I believe.

Having just checked (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Cup_of_Nations), Egypt hosted it in 2006, and Angola will host it in 2010.

The goals and competition at the Africa Cup of Nations were good but the organisation and pitches were horrible (I believe there was even a power failure during a match). That didn't help Ghana's, or Africa's, image.

...a flag that looks like it was designed by a committee. Of the blind. And stupid.

Well, it was the EU.

Plus, Sel, Castro was the one man who single-handedly brought the U.S.A. and U.S.S.R. to the brink of nuclear war, which would have ultimately, well, let's just say we wouldn't be here. Which would be a shame, because I LIKE being here, and if I'm going to die/not because of a war, I want it to be a war I started or a war I'm in agreement with. Mind, I don't want to go out to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Also, how long til Serbia and Kosovo finally kick off and gets Russia involved, along with the rest of us. Sigh.

what? Serbia being the location to start a war that ends up bringing the whole world into it for say four years or so and get proclaimed "the war to end all wars?" never happen! ;)

on and back on a few earlier topics that i never really commented on or got back to.

1) Jariss is actually meant to be a sort of salute to all the San Marinos and Andorras of the world with their small size and populations trying to hang with the big countries.

2) C&M- oh i don;t mind if all the newspapers picked different teams to win the cup and all. Its just the fact that after 13 Cups, Tynelia is finally mentioned by SOMEONE to win it all. yeah my teams have been that good beforehand...

The African Cup of Nations in one sense misses the point, and in the other makes it entirely- The only way other nations in Africa are hosting is that someone in Africa has to. Egypt and South Africa are the only two realistic choices on the continent. But, I suppose there's something to be said when looking at Africa for Africa's sake.

If we get more Kosovos, they may have to, just to keep the qualifying groups manageable.

*coughswisssystemcough*

1) Jariss is actually meant to be a sort of salute to all the San Marinos and Andorras of the world with their small size and populations trying to hang with the big countries.

To quote Professor Chaos (or, rather his sidekick General Disarray)

"The Simpsons already did it."


In this case, it was Ariddia's puppet San Adriano and their team (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/san_adriano_s_national_football_team.html).

Ghana has just hosted the 2008 African Cup, I believe.

Having just checked (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Cup_of_Nations), Egypt hosted it in 2006, and Angola will host it in 2010.

Morocco has also previously put in at least two serious bids to host the full World Cup. I'm typing this purely from memory, but I believe that they counterbid against the USA in '94, and were the only serious counterbid to South Africa for 2010. There might have been a third bid too, but I can't recall any details.

In 1994, if memory serves, their bid was taken fairly seriously. 2010 foundered on the fact that when Sepp Blatter said 'a World Cup in Africa', what he actually meant was 'a World Cup in sub-Saharan Africa'.

As someone who's travelled fairly extensively in Africa in the past, I think the Moroccans could pull it off so long as someone else paid for, or substantially contributed towards the cost of, building the additional stadiums needed as they already have much of the transit infrastructure in place to accommodate all of those rich westerners resting their weary heads in riads in Fez and Marrakech; Morocco also has the benefit of having negligable internal security problems compared to most North African nations. Egypt is also a potential option, though there might be more terrorism concerns here. But neither Morocco nor Egypt can possibly be any more chaotic than Jo'burg on a bad day.

I'm typing this purely from memory, but I believe that they counterbid against the USA in '94

Aye, indeed they did.

Add Libya to potential African hosts, as well...there might be the odd political difficulty, though, but Argentina hosted in 78...

*coughswisssystemcough*

:headbang:

I repeat.

:headbang:

Thank you please.

Add Libya to potential African hosts, as well...there might be the odd political difficulty, though, but Argentina hosted in 78...

What a fantastic idea! Since the Libyans only have one city worth the name and would have to hold every single match in Tripoli, it would really cut down on the logistical problems World Cup organisers face getting teams and fans from one destination to another.

I'm surprised no one else has thought of it... The opportunities for smaller countries are obvious. In fact, maybe we should appoint LE the provisional head of a Singapore World Cup exploratory committee.

:headbang:

I repeat.

:headbang:

Thank you please.

Just because you're not innovative enough to try things is clearly no fault of mine. :p

Also, there's a significant problem for places like Libya- people need to be willing to travel there. I'd pass, myself.

Also, there's a significant problem for places like Libya- people need to be willing to travel there. I'd pass, myself.

Maybe, but putting my previous sarcasm over Libya aside, I guarantee you that you'd be a hell of a lot safer walking alone at 10:00pm through the centre of Tripoli than you would be attempting to do the same thing through the centre of Johannesburg.

Aye, and I'd be safer than those walking through the streets of St. Paul at 10pm after watching a more enjoyable sport, which is why that holds preference. :p

Incidentally - and I'm asking this out of genuine curiosity, not an attempt to make fun of or belittle him - can someone explain Sel Appa's politics to me? Over recent weeks Sel has 1) noted his admiration of Fidel Castro, 2) declared that he refuses to recognise Kosovo unless Serbia does, as the former is a product of Western Imperialist aggression, 3) expressed his belief that there are no 'Occupied Territories' in Palestine and that Israel legitimately controls the West Bank under international law. Points 1 and 2 seem to go along with each other; I'm having problems getting point 3 to go along with the other two, though.
I don't see where the problem is, however my political beliefs do deviate quite oddly from certain mainstream expectations. Some of my more conservative viewpoints, for instance, on gun control, abortion, gay marriage. But I don't think any of us really want to get into any of that...

1 and 2 fit together somewhat and 2 and 3 fit together somewhat in the mainstream thought, so meh. I used to like most separatist movements, but now I really only support the Kurds and Somaliland or whatever it's called.

Well, it was the EU.

Plus, Sel, Castro was the one man who single-handedly brought the U.S.A. and U.S.S.R. to the brink of nuclear war, which would have ultimately, well, let's just say we wouldn't be here. Which would be a shame, because I LIKE being here, and if I'm going to die/not because of a war, I want it to be a war I started or a war I'm in agreement with. Mind, I don't want to go out to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Also, how long til Serbia and Kosovo finally kick off and gets Russia involved, along with the rest of us. Sigh.
I'm not that certain that the whole global annihilation thing would actually happen.

Aye, and I'd be safer than those walking through the streets of St. Paul at 10pm after watching a more enjoyable sport, which is why that holds preference. :p

And I'd be safer 6 feet under.

Incidentally - and I'm asking this out of genuine curiosity, not an attempt to make fun of or belittle him - can someone explain Sel Appa's politics to me? Over recent weeks Sel has 1) noted his admiration of Fidel Castro, 2) declared that he refuses to recognise Kosovo unless Serbia does, as the former is a product of Western Imperialist aggression, 3) expressed his belief that there are no 'Occupied Territories' in Palestine and that Israel legitimately controls the West Bank under international law. Points 1 and 2 seem to go along with each other; I'm having problems getting point 3 to go along with the other two, though.

That's still pretty Western. I separate Israel as a completely different thing in politics from other beliefs I have. (I'm socialist but I believe Israel has a right to exist and has rights to the West Bank that they won legitimately in war).

So for Sel I'm assuming something similar. The thing about Israel is that it's a matter of international law and whether you believe the Jews and Arabs are in the right. From approximately 15 years of indoctrination I believe the Jews are in the right, though not as much as I would like to believe (To say Israel is angelic is ridiculous).

As a citizen of the US there's only 4 countries whom I'm afraid of, if the US ever declares war on them:

1- China. They literally can throw a BILLION people at you.
2- India: See Above and they have more nukes than China does.
3- Israel: They won't give up or give a flying Fu(k about doing everything and anthing to win.
4- Russia: Let's see: Crazy leader? check, Millions of people? check, miles and miles of wastleland to fight in? check, nukes? check.

And to be fair, the 4 countries the US would wipe the floor within a month (not that the US is ever planning on attacking these countries, Don't listen to those lies France is spreading) in random order:

1- Canada: Sorry, but we outnumber you 10-1 and our weapons are better, (although the Air Forces would be about the same and would prolong it a bit)
2- Japan: No real military to speak of now.
3- Columbia: If we really, really wanted to end the Drug War, It would be done by next Friday.
4- Italy: Do they even have an army?

For obvious reasons I'm not including any countries that do not have a standing army (ie: Switzerland, Andorra, Lichtenstein, etc.)

As a citizen of the US there's only 4 countries whom I'm afraid of, if the US ever declares war on them:

1- China. They literally can throw a BILLION people at you.
2- India: See Above and they have more nukes than China does.
3- Israel: They won't give up or give a flying Fu(k about doing everything and anthing to win.
4- Russia: Let's see: Crazy leader? check, Millions of people? check, miles and miles of wastleland to fight in? check, nukes? check.

And to be fair, the 4 countries the US would wipe the floor within a month:

1- Canada: Sorry, but we outnumber you 10-1 and our weapons are better, (although the Air Forces would be about the same and would prolong it a bit)
2- Japan: No real military to speak of now.
3- Columbia: If we really, really wanted to end the Drug War, It would be done by next Friday.
4- Italy: Do they even have an army?
No. Just no.

Back to the business at hand.

A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!

Two games into the Cup, I haven't scored a goal, yet I still have a chance to get to the 2nd round, provided i can win by 2 goals and Casari loses.

(will wait until Friday to complain then....;))

What a fantastic idea! Since the Libyans only have one city worth the name and would have to hold every single match in Tripoli, it would really cut down on the logistical problems World Cup organisers face getting teams and fans from one destination to another.

There's a World Cup-legal stadium in Benghazi as well. But the point is that Gadaffi could build stadia everywhere if they were to bid for the World Cup. They'd have 6 years to do so, and with worker's rights not being paramount...

Looks like the Dreamed Realm teams are up for their usual first round hi-jinks of a win, a draw, and a loss.

Despite being bottom of both their groups, both teams can still qualify with only four points if they win their final matches.

If the Archregimancy beats Jeruselem, they go through provided Vephrall doesn't beat Milchama.

Sorthern Northland's upset victory over Zwangzug combined with the Holy Empire's high-scoring draw with Yafor 2 makes things more complicated in that group due to head to heads and goal difference and goals scored all being in the mix, but a victory over Sorthern Northland -especially a 2 goal one - would still give the Empire a good chance of going through regardless of the other result.

Incidentally, if it looks like I'm posting more than usual, that's because I am. Remember my recent post about a trip to the hospital, painkillers and the like? Well, I've been ordered to stay at home for two weeks and not work, and I'm bored to tears. NS is one of the few things keeping me sane.

And to be fair, the 4 countries the US would wipe the floor within a month (not that the US is ever planning on attacking these countries, Don't listen to those lies France is spreading) in random order:

1- Canada: Sorry, but we outnumber you 10-1 and our weapons are better, (although the Air Forces would be about the same and would prolong it a bit)
2- Japan: No real military to speak of now.
3- Columbia: If we really, really wanted to end the Drug War, It would be done by next Friday.
4- Italy: Do they even have an army?

For obvious reasons I'm not including any countries that do not have a standing army (ie: Switzerland, Andorra, Lichtenstein, etc.)

Really Qaz, for gratuitous ill-informed non-relevant posts in this thread, this one takes the biscuit. For once I find myself in complete and total agreement with Sel Appa's reaction.

But for what it's worth, leaving aside the logistical misconceptions you appear to have about the four countries listed above, no doubt the United States would be as successful in rapidly bringing peace and stability to these nations following an invasion as it has been in Iraq.

And you might want to check the following link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland) regarding the Swiss military.

Right now I find myself filled with disbelief that the former proposal to close the discussion thread was countered with comments like "No, we need it."

How's this for a counter?

Voting for the hosts of the upcoming Baptism of Fire will begin Saturday 23 February at 1700 GMT.

Now, see, where else would I have put that?

...oh, the Presidential Announcements Thread. Meh, I'll save that for the actual start of the vote. :p

Right now I find myself filled with disbelief that the former proposal to close the discussion thread was countered with comments like "No, we need it."

Maybe that should have translated to "no, we need it to keep Qazox and Sel Appa amused, and to occasionally save the sanity of the rest of us when we find ourselves bedridden with nothing else to do".

But I agree that both the quality and the relevance of postings to this thread - and I admit my partial culpability on the latter - has noticeably fallen of late.

I'd say pretty weak, it's just the BoF vote- as long as you have a pulse, I think you could swing that.

Who likes Group B at the moment?

For once I find myself in complete and total agreement with Sel Appa's reaction.
I'll have to build on that...

And you might want to check the following link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland) regarding the Swiss military.
Why...

How's this for a counter?

Voting for the hosts of the upcoming Baptism of Fire will begin Saturday 23 February at 1700 GMT.

Now, see, where else would I have put that?

...oh, the Presidential Announcements Thread. Meh, I'll save that for the actual start of the vote. :p
Sel Appa would like to take the moment to announce that it won't be pursuing a bid for the Baptism of Fire due to other commitments.

Who likes Group B at the moment?

Group B is just Awesome... We should know....

Group B is just Awesome... We should know....

Of course :rolleyes:

I've figured out that if I beat Tynelia, I qualify. Now, let's work on that 'if' part, because recalling my computer programming skills, I've already had a problem with the if...


EDIT - Also, if everyone ties, I qualify, by virtue of me having more goals. Also, if I tie and Bazalonia wins, I qualify.

So GO BAZALONIA!

I was wondering if anyone might want to co host the BoF with me.(have to have scorinator)

PS. Dont laugh

I don't mean to be rude, but in my opinion, until you learn to RP better I don't think you should be judging RP bonus in any form. I mean, if you can't grasp what good RPing is, it will be difficult for you to be able to judge RP bonus fairly.

I guess i over stepped the political talk too much...

:mp5:

Hey guys, let's not turn this into NSG Politics thread eh? :p

Of course :rolleyes:

I've figured out that if I beat Tynelia, I qualify. Now, let's work on that 'if' part, because recalling my computer programming skills, I've already had a problem with the if...


EDIT - Also, if everyone ties, I qualify, by virtue of me having more goals. Also, if I tie and Bazalonia wins, I qualify.

So GO BAZALONIA!
NO!!!!!

Plus, Sel, Castro was the one man who single-handedly brought the U.S.A. and U.S.S.R. to the brink of nuclear war

I'm sorry for prolonging the politics, I tried hard to resist the temptation, but anyone who's studied the history of the Cold War would know that this is completely untrue; Castro's role in the Cuban Missile Crisis was negligible.

In the first round, each team (as of writing this stands at 10 entrants) will play every other team once. At this point there is no 'luck of the draw' in individual groups where one may or may not find excellent teams around them, a simple league system is provided...For the second round, the top eight (or sixteen, if seventeen or more teams are signed up) will teams will go forward into seeded pairings based on both points and participation.Considering the aforementioned 17+ team scenario, would that mean the 16 teams in the knockouts would have gone through a "group stage" of 15 matchdays? Does "at this point" mean you'd consider drawing groups if you reached a certain threshold?

I don't mean to be rude, but in my opinion, until you learn to RP better I don't think you should be judging RP bonus in any form. I mean, if you can't grasp what good RPing is, it will be difficult for you to be able to judge RP bonus fairly.

So writing good RPs = ability to judge RPs?

1) The guy's said he can't write well, and admits that.
2) I think my RPs are of a fair standard, yet in all honesty, I'd have no idea where to begin when judging RPs, and how to make it fair. Hell, I didn't RP when I hosted half of the NSF1 just because I didn't want to judge my own RPs because I didn't really know how to judge others.

If Taeshan wanted to bid for the BoF, hell, or even if I wanted to bid for the BoF, I'd expect there'd be an experienced player co-hosting to make sure everything's going well and to 'teach the trade', so to speak.

Also, Az, after reading your recent RP (post #670), I had to restrain myself from throwing my staple remover at the monitor. Not that I'd be reading the RP thread or writing in the NWCDT at work or anything. *cough* Basically, what I'm saying is you did a good IC job of annoying my OOC persona :p (ie this persona).

Considering the aforementioned 17+ team scenario, would that mean the 16 teams in the knockouts would have gone through a "group stage" of 15 matchdays? Does "at this point" mean you'd consider drawing groups if you reached a certain threshold?

The 'play everybody else once' in the Group Stage does start to fall down with a large number of BoF entrants. With 10 it was very feasible, but the idea starst to take the piss somewhat when you're enlarging the tournament to over three weeks long.

17+ teams would mean drawn groups, yes, but as few as possible (ideally only two) which gets back down to a more manageble series of games.

Groups of four, especially with just one match against each team, before the knockouts just provides too few opportunities for RPing development, as far as I see it.

So writing good RPs = ability to judge RPs?

No, I never said that. What I'm trying to say is I very strongly doubt Taeshan understands what's a good RP. Nothing to do with whether he CAN write good RPs – although writing good RPs tend to prove that one understands what's a good RP. And that will have implications on judging RPs, especially in such an RP-heavy tournament like the BoF. I mean, if he thinks his RPs are acceptable, then hell, even Lovisa could get high RP bonus.

*Disclaimer: If there is any confusion or skepticism about the above, replace "good" with "acceptable" where appropriate/necessary.

I've just noticed that, after 39 previous editions of the World Cup passing him by without any involvement, Pantocratoria's decided to enter World Cup 40.

This could make for some seriously interesting WC40 RP....

Bos,

What's upsetting about my post. You think it's acceptable to randomly discriminate against certain religions? I find it hard to believe even someone of your flawed beliefs would accept that.

I've just noticed that, after 39 previous editions of the World Cup passing him by without any involvement, Pantocratoria's decided to enter World Cup 40.

This could make for some seriously interesting WC40 RP....

Aye, a big beast of NS (i.e. someone you may actually have heard of on the forums before) coming to join the party. Should be fun!

So writing good RPs = ability to judge RPs?

1) The guy's said he can't write well, and admits that.
2) I think my RPs are of a fair standard, yet in all honesty, I'd have no idea where to begin when judging RPs, and how to make it fair. Hell, I didn't RP when I hosted half of the NSF1 just because I didn't want to judge my own RPs because I didn't really know how to judge others.

If Taeshan wanted to bid for the BoF, hell, or even if I wanted to bid for the BoF, I'd expect there'd be an experienced player co-hosting to make sure everything's going well and to 'teach the trade', so to speak.
My say is that if he can't put in the effort to make a coherent post, how can we expect him to put in the effort of a host. It's a hell of a lot of work and I only saw what the BoF was like.

Bos,

What's upsetting about my post. You think it's acceptable to randomly discriminate against certain religions? I find it hard to believe even someone of your flawed beliefs would accept that.

I just have a out-and-out hatred of Scientology. I think they're all crazy. Whether they are is of course another matter, but that's my personal opinions. As for Mormons, I'm a bit "meh, whatever" about them, so let's ignore them for these purposes.

Anyway, as for my flawed beliefs (note I'm not saying "flawed beliefs"), wouldn't you expect random discrimination to be in there somewhere?

My say is that if he can't put in the effort to make a coherent post, how can we expect him to put in the effort of a host. It's a hell of a lot of work and I only saw what the BoF was like.

Me also remembers the last Rugby World Cup not being finished.

Sometimes you just need to burn something for the insurance money.

Voting for the hosts of the upcoming Baptism of Fire will begin Saturday 23 February at 1700 GMT.
However will I decide who to vote for? :D

The last rugby world cup was canceled due to it being run way to fast by myself.There was major opposition to nobody having time to post rosters and such. I gave a couple of days of and was planing to restart with everybody ready to start it, but there was a lack of rpers so the cup was canceled. And yes as Bos posted earlier i was hoping for a co host that had hosted before so i could get some help with it. Also my slowness on the end of giving scores and such is due to not having a good scorinator.(would need help with that)And my computer is a crapshoot

The last rugby world cup was canceled due to it being run way to fast by myself.There was major opposition to nobody having time to post rosters and such. I gave a couple of days of and was planing to restart with everybody ready to start it, but there was a lack of rpers so the cup was canceled. And yes as Bos posted earlier i was hoping for a co host that had hosted before so i could get some help with it. Also my slowness on the end of giving scores and such is due to not having a good scorinator.(would need help with that)And my computer is a crapshoot

I've got a feeling no-one will bid with you at 24hrs notice TBH Taeshan - that's a whole lot of not much time to organise anything.

Before plying for a bid again, you have to remember one thing:

The most important part of a bid is the ability to finish what you start.

Make sure you're prepared and organised. See what others do. Learn by seeing, then learn by doing. Hosting is a steaming pile of effort, but if you work hard, you will reap benefits.

Erm... How the hell does something like Group G happen?

BTW, I strongly encourage the hosts to use a more non-random pattern of selection by introducing a kongfu duel between the captains of the teams in question (I guess at this point, it would be a BATTLE ROYALE!), where the winners progress and the losers... well, they... ummm... they die I guess? But they'd have to sign a death waiver.

Erm... How the hell does something like Group G happen?
It doesn’t, for the first thirty-eight World Cups… :p

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Cha Beomgeun is going to be a hero in the Empire after this World Cup.

I would like to motion for settling it on the field, and replaying the group in a runoff. That, or drawing the teams into a pair of oneoff playoff matches. At any rate, breaking it through the playing of games.

It'll be entertaining and it's not like the teams are going to get worn out, unless the scorinator is sick of seeing their names. :p

Y'all could at least of let me score a dang goal.

Once again, Qazox earned the Wooden Spork.

I would like to motion for settling it on the field, and replaying the group in a runoff. That, or drawing the teams into a pair of oneoff playoff matches. At any rate, breaking it through the playing of games.

It'll be entertaining and it's not like the teams are going to get worn out, unless the scorinator is sick of seeing their names. :p
As entertaining as it might be:

If a tie between three or more teams cannot be resolved, or if a tie is irrelevant to determining which teams advance, then it will be resolved by drawing of lots.

As entertaining as it might be:

Hence, this is where praying to Holy Margaret, Holy FSM, Holy Jesus, Holy Prophet, Holy Xenu, Holy Mohammad, Holy Buddha, Holy Brahman, Holy Voodoo, Holy Kongfuzi, Holy NAME OF GOD! becomes parrticularly useful.

Aye, I can't fault the hosts for having chronic fun allergies. But then again, this might be the best way to get Az-Cz out of the cup so we don't have to deal with any three-in-a-row talk. :p

I'm still astonished that the tiebreaks in Group A somehow went against Caf.

Aye, I can't fault the hosts for having chronic fun allergies.

You could, but CH's hives are bad enough, without you taking the mickey.

I'm still astonished that the tiebreaks in Group A somehow went against Caf.

I can explain it, but then people would think that I'm just a nerd.

You really don't need to, the little asterisk note does so more than adequately.

You really don't need to, the little asterisk note does so more than adequately.

ThankS!!!!

Dae... any chance that you can limit the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng parts of your posts?

It's annoying to try to read Rp's and have to shrink the pages to fit.

I wasn't expecting anything like Group G to be like it was.
Group F could have gone that way but I guess I was lucky.

Err, Jewbee power!

Unlucky Bettia too!
Northern Bettia vs Bettia @ Raynor Memorial, Hondo

I wasn't expecting anything like Group G to be like it was.


How do you think I feel? :(:confused:

How do you think I feel? :(:confused:

Surprised at your results considering Ariddia stomped it's opposition!
Jeruselem and Milchama face the two winners still, and Starblaydia seems to be following me around ...

Damn I need to RP more... but RL college is taking up a lot of time, hehe.

There were an awful lot of close groups weren't there?

But at least that makes things exciting! Both of my teams went into their last match with a chance of going through, despite not having won either of their first two matches.

And while I can't beat Az-cz for bad luck, look at the poor ol' Holy Empire for another example of how those final matches might have been nail-biting results in real life: having defeated Sorthern Northland, as needed, the Yafor 2 - Zwangzug match then promptly ended in the only result (a draw) that could have eliminated the Imperial squad.

Ah well.

One of these days one of my teams will make it past the quarterfinals....

One of these days, one of my teams might even make it past the second round in a tournament I'm not hosting!

There were an awful lot of close groups weren't there?

But at least that makes things exciting! Both of my teams went into their last match with a chance of going through, despite not having won either of their first two matches.

And while I can't beat Az-cz for bad luck, look at the poor ol' Holy Empire for another example of how those final matches might have been nail-biting results in real life: having defeated Sorthern Northland, as needed, the Yafor 2 - Zwangzug match then promptly ended in the only result (a draw) that could have eliminated the Imperial squad.

Ah well.

One of these days one of my teams will make it past the quarterfinals....

One of these days, one of my teams might even make it past the second round in a tournament I'm not hosting!

The poor Monks got a group full of RPers. A lot of the other groups didn't have a lot of active RPers like moi.
At least Group F was headline grabbing group, being all religious with the cup's weirdest religious folk.

Dae... any chance that you can limit the LOOOOOOOO[snip]OOOOng parts of your posts?

It's annoying to try to read Rp's and have to shrink the pages to fit.

Do the same to yours, please.

i think i may have to start forfeiting my MD1 matches in the group stage. without looking back to confirm i think this is the 4th or 5th time i started MD1with a win then missed out on advancing.

<makes a note to add something like this to the NOCCRO theology>

I wasn't expecting anything like Group G to be like it was.

Last night I had a dream that I read the scores thread and saw that I'd beaten C&M 6-0, while Az-cz had beaten Demot 8-1.

Though this situation is far more fun, hehe. Has is occurred before in WC Finals where all four teams have had identical records?

Though this situation is far more fun, hehe. Has is occurred before in WC Finals where all four teams have had identical records?
It doesn’t, for the first thirty-eight World Cups… :p
Taking that as a "no".

And nice to know I'm not the only one whose subconscious is far too interested in this game. :p

I'd commiserate with whoever doesn't win the draw, but let's face it, I won't know how it feels. :p

Last night I had a dream that I read the scores thread and saw that I'd beaten C&M 6-0, while Az-cz had beaten Demot 8-1.

Though this situation is far more fun, hehe. Has is occurred before in WC Finals where all four teams have had identical records?

Been here 29 cups and I've never seen this. Sometimes teams are on equal points but head-to-head and goal difference sort this out most of the time. Never I have seen, all teams on the same everything. Last cup, I didn't make the 2nd round due to head-to-head record - Bostopia progressed.

Taking that as a "no".

And nice to know I'm not the only one whose subconscious is far too interested in this game. :p

I actually held a half-hour post-match press conference after a qualifying game once before I woke up...



I'd commiserate with whoever doesn't win the draw, but let's face it, I won't know how it feels. :p


You'll commiserate mostly with me though, won't you. You like me. *Flutters eyelashes*

On an entirely unrelated note, you couldn't lend me a cardboard box for my captain to stand on tommorow, could ye?

Well...if you fail to go through...and if you won't be offended by it...neither of which I feel safe predicting...

(I've qualified for six World Cups, in four of which I've garnered four points. In three of those, I needed a tiebreaker to decide whether I'd go through or not. So it's not as if I'm entirely foreign to the concept.)
On an entirely unrelated note, you couldn't lend me a cardboard box for my captain to stand on tommorow, could ye?Think I'm missing the point, but if you're being fair and within the rules and suchlike, you can keep the thing if it means that much.

Do the same to yours, please.

(hence my point)

Been here 29 cups and I've never seen this. Sometimes teams are on equal points but head-to-head and goal difference sort this out most of the time. Never I have seen, all teams on the same everything. Last cup, I didn't make the 2nd round due to head-to-head record - Bostopia progressed.

A happier memory than this WC.

Good news for me... Cafundéu will become a top 10 team after this World Cup... in the 8th or 9th place.

Six points in the group stage will probably be sufficient to have a better campaign than most of the eliminated teams of the second round.

A happier memory than this WC.

Don't complain too much, Sel Appa won't have fond memories either!
Nor will the unlucky two teams in Group G.

Dae... any chance that you can limit the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng parts of your posts?

It's annoying to try to read Rp's and have to shrink the pages to fit.

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER!

Besides, if you've got text-wrap, your screen should automatically peel some of the letters off the end and start a new line. Unless, you computer doesn't have text wrap... in which case, I turn to the immortal French words - tant pis! (jk)

Anyway, I've got a good compromise in the next RP...

Last night I had a dream that I read the scores thread and saw that I'd beaten C&M 6-0, while Az-cz had beaten Demot 8-1.

Someone takes this too seriously...although I think I had an NS dream once. And it's not really a bad thing IMO...

I actually held a half-hour post-match press conference after a qualifying game once before I woke up...

wow that's both crazy and awesome. I often pretend radio/TV broadcasts for NS and related stuff as I walk home. Gotta do something with 10 minutes of boredom every day.

Don't complain too much, Sel Appa won't have fond memories either!
Nor will the unlucky two teams in Group G.
Yeah :(

Oh boy ... and the winners are ...

Milchama vs Candelaria And Marquez @ The White Fortress, Gladerial
Starblaydia vs Jeruselem @ Hatire Memorial, Capri

Please note the Jewbee nature of three of the four teams!
I'm conjoined with Starblaydia in the 2nd round or what!

Universitus University (Jey) would again like to reiterate its interest in hosting the next scheduled Baptism of Fire. Under new management since Baptism of Fire 25, the administration of The Hoya College of Soccer of The Tildes Skills School at Universitus University will feel confident in its ability to coordinate this event. Of course, as a relatively new contributer to this sport internationally, Universitus would be open to the idea of co-hosting the event with a more experienced player.

3 jewish teams in the 2nd round???

Free Pork-Rinds for all.... except you three. ;)

Universitus University (Jey) would again like to reiterate its interest in hosting the next scheduled Baptism of Fire. Under new management since Baptism of Fire 25, the administration of The Hoya College of Soccer of The Tildes Skills School at Universitus University will feel confident in its ability to coordinate this event. Of course, as a relatively new contributer to this sport internationally, Universitus would be open to the idea of co-hosting the event with a more experienced player.

Sel Appa again asserts its opposition to this.

Sel, may i ask what's your problem with Jey?

Also congrats to C&M and Star for somehow advancing to the 2nd round...you lucky bastards :p

<mumbles to himself, how did 3 teams ranked that dang low advanced to the 2nd round, when I can't buy my way there..grumble..grumble :headbang:???>

<puts on his rain slicker for the raft of crap he's going to get for this>

<enters whinge mode>

What are the f***ing odds that the #1 team in the world by a clear margin, whose one the last two cups, who RPs alot, can't make the second freaking round?

Well... 1/2, it seems. :p

Well... 1/2, it seems. :p

I hate to demonstrate my nerdiness here, but it's actually not 1/2!!!

Consider that each spot is chosen at random individually:

1st position - chance of winning among four teams = 1/4
2nd position - chance of winning among remaining three teams = 1/3
...etc...

Since the total probability of qualifying is actually the sum of the probability of getting a winning spot, there is a 5/12 chance that Az-cz would qualify by random lots.

But consider also the fact that they ended with a 1-1-1 result, that included some strange losses. There are a total of 10 different possibilities to end the World Cup.

W-D-L
3-0-0 = 9
2-1-0 = 7
2-0-1 = 6
1-2-0 = 5
1-1-1 = 4
1-0-2 = 3
0-2-1 = 2
0-1-2 = 1
0-0-3 = 0

So achieving the 1-1-1 result is a 1/10 chance. Multiply that by the 5/12 and you get 1/24.

Then you have to consider the probability that the other teams got the same exact result (1/1000) and multiply it by that (1/24000). And then you have to consider the individual game results (I conservatively estimate something like a 1/7.6 chance, including the loss to Demot - leaves us with something on the neighborhood of a 1/182400 chance).

My unreliably confusing probability that this would happen is a 1-in-182,400 chance. That said, you're still more likely to lose out of the World Cup in the Group Stage than you are to be eaten alive by a shark.

Please note that this is a very conservative estimate, and that for a better result, please consult your neighborhood statistician.

No, it's 1/2. Two teams were drawn to go on, making it 2/4, or 1/2. :p

No, it's 1/2. Two teams were drawn to go on, making it 2/4, or 1/2. :p

I'm talking about the order, and the hosts may correct me if I'm wrong, but the chance of getting the top two positions is isolated and random (each position is chosen randomly and independent of the others by hierarchy).

Here's the tricky part:

For the first position, there are four names in a pot, and one of these has the name "Az-cz" on it. You pull one name at random. The chance of pulling "Az-cz" at that position is 1 out of 4 names. (1/4)

If you don't pull "Az-cz" in the first trial, you go on the second position. You now have three names, so the chance of pulling out "Az-cz" this time around is 1 out of 3 names. (1/3)

If you don't pull "Az-cz" in the second trial, you go on the third position. There are only two names left, so the chance of pulling out "Az-cz" is 1 out of 2 names (1/2).

If you still don't pull out "Az-cz" after three trials, you go the fourth position. There is only name left, and it has to be "Az-cz", so the chance of pulling it out is 1 out of 1 names (1).

The chance of being pulled in the first round is 1/4.

The chance of being pulled in the second round is 5/12.

The chance of being pulled in the third round is 11/12.

And the chance of being pulled in the fourth round is 1 (since you can't really have a probability greater than 1...).


Now, this is a non-math major telling people what the laws of probability are, so if this is wrong, please correct me. But I'm fairly confident that this is how it goes.


Might I also mention that if I correct in my assumptions, getting selected to go to the Second Round where all positions are chosen simultaneously and randomly still is not 1/2 probability.

You have 4 positions, but 2 of them are winning slots. Getting yourself into one of these 2 slots out of 4 slots is a 1/2 chance. But you have competitors as well. The chance that one of those guys will win the slot is 1/2 (because two of them progress). So your chance of progressing to the World Cup by simultaneous random selection is in fact 1/4 (1/2*1/2).

Of course, I repeat that I am presuming that the hosts are using the positions to determine who progresses. Since you have 4 teams and 4 positions (two completely different variables), you have to account for each variable. If the hosts simply selected two of four teams (regardless of position), then the probability is indeed 1/2.

I don't know whether it's the fact that it's 3 in the morning and I've had a few or not, but that math is makes no sense to me at all- particularly those probabilities, because they're implying that the probability of one of your opponents being picked is different than you being picked in a random draw.

You have a 1/4 (or 3/12) chance of being picked first. Then, in the remaining 3/4 of possible universes where you weren't picked first, there's a 1/3 chance of being picked second. So, 1/3 of 3/4 is 3/12... giving 6/12, or 1/2. At least, I think so. Like I said, it's far too early to be doing things like thinking.