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Hosts should never have puppets in the qualifers, that will get rid of 2

Hosts should never have puppets in the qualifers, that will get rid of 2

Makes it interesting if one of the hosts was a puppet, and the main team was entered as in the cup too.

Hosts should never have puppets in the qualifers, that will get rid of 2
No, there is no reason why a host cannot have a puppet in the qualifiers.

And there shouldn't be an actual limit on puppets. The number should be qualifying spots - main nations, as Jeru said. Only after signups are closed can you decide which puppets can be included.

At it stands now, 91 teams in WC37 - 20 puppets compared to 21 BoF teams (some BoF teams are puppets too).

Hosts should never have puppets in the qualifers, that will get rid of 2

That's a horrible idea. Look at the last three sets of hosts:

Cafundeu & Commerce Heights
Bazaloni & TLC
Ariddia & AIF

Four of those nations have puppets and all of them are role played at least somewhat. Why would we want to cut down on the number of possible hosts with a rule like that. I can't speak for those nations but I'm willing to guess people like AIF, Caf, or maybe ESF going forward wouldn't host if it meant having to give up their puppet.

I really don't see what the problem is. The countries whose puppets are doing well are the country that puts a lot of time and effort into RPing them. Other puppets that recieve less energy do less well. Look at Daehanjeiguk. In one cup they've already moved past a number of active puppets (BBQ, Ulzaxid, Patusan). New nations that RP well will move up.

Alright, after discussing matters with LE, and seeing the reaction on here, this is what we are going to do:

-The qualifying field will consist of 90 teams (plus the hosts). There will be 10 groups of 9.

- Main nations, in order of entry, will have first priority, followed by puppets, in order of entry. Any puppets left out will be placed on the waiting list, and will replace a team who withdraws/fails to exist as of the group draw.

- Any puppet who wishes to enter the competition must do so by the previously stated deadline, August 30 @ 100 UTC. Main nations may continue to enter past this date, until a time yet to be determined.

- If, at the time of the completion of signups, there are enough teams on the waiting list to fill the field to 96 teams, or some other number that would allow for an even number of groups (and a reasonable number of teams per group), the hosts reserve the right to expand the field.

-There will be no preliminary phase. The Colony Cup can stay buried.

I can't speak for those nations but I'm willing to guess people like AIF, Caf, or maybe ESF going forward wouldn't host if it meant having to give up their puppet.

Bingo.

And what if a puppet hosts? If the Archregimancy were to host again, would this mean that AIF can't enter?

Erri joins the "Those cheese-eating surrender monkeys Ariddia beat us in a World Cup final" list! That's me, Bettia and Erri now.

Ahem, we beat Ariddia in the final. Ariddia have only beaten us in the second round... twice.

Yeah, Jeru it's you Milchama and Erri.

NSWiki is being a pain today ...

It has been for the last few weeks.

On a better note, it's my 19th birthday :)

Happy birthday, ESF!


- Main nations, in order of entry, will have first priority, followed by puppets, in order of entry. Any puppets left out will be placed on the waiting list, and will replace a team who withdraws/fails to exist as of the group draw.

- Any puppet who wishes to enter the competition must do so by the previously stated deadline, August 30 @ 100 UTC. Main nations may continue to enter past this date, until a time yet to be determined.

- If, at the time of the completion of signups, there are enough teams on the waiting list to fill the field to 96 teams, or some other number that would allow for an even number of groups (and a reasonable number of teams per group), the hosts reserve the right to expand the field.

-There will be no preliminary phase. The Colony Cup can stay buried.

That looks good to me.

It has been for the last few weeks.

On a better note, it's my 19th birthday :)

Get any goodies for it? :)

Reposted with amendmends (amendments to proposal underlined) and clarification post. Edited thanks to Zwangzug noting my/Baz's spellin mistakes :p

Bostopia proposes the following to be added to the World Cup body regulations thingy.

"If in the event of there only being one host bid for a WCC-sanctioned event, a vote should still be held before a host is to be selected, with the options being to the effect of: A: Vote for the prospective bid, B: Vote for the prospective bid with a change or removal of any controversial sections or C: Re-open bids.

Should changes to the bid be made post selection it is up to presidential discretion to invalidate that selection."

This could of course be used for the WC, BoF or CoH, and is open for amendmends for clarity/as necessary.

---Clarification---

What this is aiming to do is stop a major change happening to the World Cup without a vote, as could have happened with the Preliminary Phase for puppets etc, noting the following.

"A party bidding to host a WCC-sanctioned event must declare, before voting starts, any significant changes from the normal operation of the event."

You'll remember there was no vote, as there was only one candidate, so I'm attempting to close a loophole. Like I say, it's open to modification as need be though.

This could of course be used for the WC, BoF or CoH, and is open for amendmends for clarity/as necessary.
If it’s supposed to apply to the BoF and CoH (which I don’t think it should, since there’s almost always one bid for those events and rarely any controversy), “forwarded to the WCC” should be changed to “for a WCC-sanctioned event,” since the BoF and CoH hosts are determined by the EWCC. If it only applies to the World Cup, then it would be more clear to say “for the World Cup.”

The second part might better be worded as an addition to article III, section 5: “A party bidding to host a WCC-sanctioned event must declare, before voting starts, any significant changes from the normal operation of the event. Should such a change be announced by the winning bid during voting or after the selection is made, the President may choose to invalidate the selection and restart the bid process.”

I've edited it to have "for a WCC-sanctioned event". It would give the legislation (should it be approved) a lot more flexibility, which may pull us out of a tricky situation at some point.

If it is better for the second part to go as an addition to Article III, then I'm fine with that, proposals are here to attempt to better the system, so I obviously won't stand in the way of that.
---
RIP Rhys Jones
11 year olds shouldn't get shot...YNWA

For those interested: The U21 Cup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536919) I was proposing has a sign-up thread. This will be open for about a week, and closed around about the 6th or 7th of September.

I just realized I said nothing about the 2-tiered qualification for puppets... it seems okay to me, but my main NSWC nation is not Rejistania but the HURD.

A straw poll:

The current Domestic League for the Empire (Daehanjeiguk) is translated into English as the National Football League. I figured that this might be too confusing for people (especially Americans in relations to the sport and to the real life organization); so I'm now considering changing the name later to the "Imperial Football League". My question now is this - does anyone care?

If no cares, then I won't change it because it means more work than necessary. But if a good number of people decide that the change is good and necessarily better, I'll change it. Granted, not any time soon, but something in the works.

The current Domestic League for the Empire (Daehanjeiguk) is translated into English as the National Football League. I figured that this might be too confusing for people (especially Americans in relations to the sport and to the real life organization); so I'm now considering changing the name later to the "Imperial Football League". My question now is this - does anyone care?


I certainly don't care if you call it the 'National Football League' - and since this an IC forum, only the most clueless could possibly assume that you're referring to a real life body governing a different sport.

For the purpoes of in character posts, I should make you aware that the Holy Empire's football league is also called the 'Imperial Football League'; but since I rarely use that in RP, it certainly shouldn't stop you from referring to your league under any title that you see to do so. Similar league names could even lead to entertaining RPs should the Daehanjeiguk team and the Imperial squad ever get drawn in the same qualifying group.

A straw poll:

The current Domestic League for the Empire (Daehanjeiguk) is translated into English as the National Football League. I figured that this might be too confusing for people (especially Americans in relations to the sport and to the real life organization); so I'm now considering changing the name later to the "Imperial Football League". My question now is this - does anyone care?

If no cares, then I won't change it because it means more work than necessary. But if a good number of people decide that the change is good and necessarily better, I'll change it. Granted, not any time soon, but something in the works.

It's your national competition, you can call it whatever you like including Haddock Eating Round Object League. We don't have say what your national league does so, do what you think is right.

Jeruselem's league is a boring "Jeruselem Premier League"

Translating as National Football League, to me, simply implies ICly that Daehanjeiguk is fairly inward-looking, not being particularly influenced by other nations in regard to naming things.

I'd say keep it as it is.

Yep, I agree with the above - call it whatever you please, I'd imagine it should be clear from context.

Mine ("Vephraller Tririsec e Foutbill") is in a completely different language not spoken in any other nation, though the word used to refer to the sport in Vephrall has a fairly obvious origin. ;) At any rate, I doubt it'll be confusing anyone, heh.

No, there is no reason why a host cannot have a puppet in the qualifiers.

And there shouldn't be an actual limit on puppets. The number should be qualifying spots - main nations, as Jeru said. Only after signups are closed can you decide which puppets can be included.

I agree.. ignore what i said about hosts and thier puppets....

IGNORE IT NOW!!!!! lol

frankly Since it will be cold day in Rio de Janiero when ever I host the WC, all this stuff don't apply to me.

So when is the BoF gonna start? I hope it's soon, so WC37 can start faster.

So when is the BoF gonna start? I hope it's soon, so WC37 can start faster.

As was previously made public in this thread, Sel Appa is on vacation until 1 September (tomorrow). He hopes to send out the invites for the BoF and get the thread running on the 1st.

Waiting one more day won't kill you.

As was previously made public in this thread, Sel Appa is on vacation until 1 September (tomorrow). He hopes to send out the invites for the BoF and get the thread running on the 1st.

Waiting one more day won't kill you.

Reminds of Australian joke when kids nag the parents "Are we there yet?" incessantly when they've just started the car trip.

Reminds of Australian joke when kids nag the parents "Are we there yet?" incessantly when they've just started the car trip.

You're not familiar with "The Simpsons" or "Shrek 2"?

You're not familiar with "The Simpsons" or "Shrek 2"?

I stopped watching the Simpsons when South Park came on. I can't remember much of Shrek, didn't watch Shrek 2.
I watch movies 12 months after release.

In general, I can search for all the posts (or at least the last hundred) made by any given user as normal. But when I tried to do so for The Archregimancy, I got a database error.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Aha! Further proof of the Orthodox conspiracy! This means that, unquestionably, it was the Archregimancy's final post in the old WCDT that was itself tainted and cast the whole thread asunder.

What do you have to say for yourself, Arch? :D

A straw poll:

The current Domestic League for the Empire (Daehanjeiguk) is translated into English as the National Football League. I figured that this might be too confusing for people (especially Americans in relations to the sport and to the real life organization); so I'm now considering changing the name later to the "Imperial Football League". My question now is this - does anyone care?

If no cares, then I won't change it because it means more work than necessary. But if a good number of people decide that the change is good and necessarily better, I'll change it. Granted, not any time soon, but something in the works.

I think you should make it in a way that makes most sense for your nation: Heven mje'het sekhikha rejistaniha is that for me, because National and Imperial is a rather... introspective way of naming it. For Rejistania it made sense to name the league after the entire nation because there always were seperatists ('national') movements in the history of the nation. The island Sumumusumu even was independent for a while. Also the adjectivation of 3 nouns (League one=>first soccer=>adjectivized without an english equivalent rejistania=>rejistanian) in this term is a very typical rejistani way to say things. You need to find out what makes most sense for you.

When Bof Gonna Start????

First of all, a warm round of congratulations to the co-hosts and both finalists of WC36. This has been one of the best Cups I've participated in for a while. The organisation was first rate, and we had two strongly-involved excellent RPers contesting the final. Feel free to give yourselves big pats on the back!

On the linguistic confusion front....*snip*

And while we're on the topic.... in the Coupe, wouldn't 'Godmod' in French RP instructions potentially sound better if turned into Dieumod?
Yes, I must agree that this was the best World Cup since 30. I think Schia hosted and they had that penalty tournament which I really liked and would bring back if I ever hosted CoH or WC.

Interesting how that may have affected you.

I think it's like hot dog being hot dog in French...

I even know of potential BoF players that have signed up after the Bof has already been closed/started
Like this fine nation

Also why does everybody insist on making scores threads, roster threads and RP threads for non-WC tourneys? It always made sense for the WC because of the mass numbers of people but for a 12 team tourney like the French Cup why? 1 thread is much easier and makes a lot more sense.
I plan to have 2 for the BoF. One for scores and one for everything else. It's easier for organization.

It's nice to see that changing the host bidding rules led to so many more host bids. :p
ahahahahaha!

My problem with the Colony Cup is mainly IC. Say I were to bring San Adriano back into international football (I've been vaguely considering it). OOCly, San Adriano is my puppet nation. ICly, though, San Adriano is in no way subordinate to Ariddia: it's a fully sovereign independent country (albeit it one you can run through in about 40 seconds flat (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8046/testsa51yg5.jpg)). What IC grounds would there be for such a puppet to have to go through a "Colony Cup"?

Or am I the only one's who's bothered by this?
Monaco parody? The way it looks is what I've schemed for my own town. Take over as dictator and setup checkpoints...

I don't RP BBQ that often, but i want them in the tourney still, so id have to RP them in the Colony Cup.
Is that acronym intentional?

(Bostopia's Proposal)
*support*

The qualifying field will consist of 90 teams (plus the hosts). There will be 10 groups of 9.
Blah odd numbers...if you need a non-RPing puppet just to fill a spot, I'd be happy to make one...even though pupeets are closed I think at this point.

A straw poll:

The current Domestic League for the Empire (Daehanjeiguk) is translated into English as the National Football League. I figured that this might be too confusing for people (especially Americans in relations to the sport and to the real life organization); so I'm now considering changing the name later to the "Imperial Football League". My question now is this - does anyone care?

If no cares, then I won't change it because it means more work than necessary. But if a good number of people decide that the change is good and necessarily better, I'll change it. Granted, not any time soon, but something in the works.

American Football sucks, so keep it. :)

You're not familiar with "The Simpsons" or "Shrek 2"?

Or the movie..."Are We There Yet?"

So when is the BoF gonna start? I hope it's soon, so WC37 can start faster.

When Bof Gonna Start????

Tomorrow the first of September most likely...scorination that is. The draw will be out soon...

Cool.. thanks Sel Appa

Cool.. thanks Sel Appa

I'm working on the thread now. It will take awhile, but once it is up. It will all flow easily.

Aha! Further proof of the Orthodox conspiracy! This means that, unquestionably, it was the Archregimancy's final post in the old WCDT that was itself tainted and cast the whole thread asunder.

What do you have to say for yourself, Arch? :D

Simple. The essence of my posts remains unknowable, though their presence may be felt through their energies.



(Orthodox humour. Try a web search for 'Gregory Palamas' or 'hesychasm' if you're desperately curious)

Hatchling Cup/Baptism of Fire 24 Everything Else Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537109)

The draw has been drawn and will be posted shortly. And then I will TG all nations that have entered.

Simple. The essence of my posts remains unknowable, though their presence may be felt through their energies.



(Orthodox humour. Try a web search for 'Gregory Palamas' or 'hesychasm' if you're desperately curious)

You might really want to ask the Jolt admins about your account and why it's having the db error searching for your posts. Especially if there's some kind of bug (like has affected Commerce Heights and Yafor 2).

I'd just like to note that I think the BoF has got off to a good start already. Sel's being very professional in his posts, and Prux's post about getting confused with foosball already shows a wonderfully inventive mind at work in only their first RP.

Let the good times roll!

I'd just like to note that I think the BoF has got off to a good start already.

Turtleade must have paid a lot of money to have their logo larger than the Hatchling Cup text itself.

The only thing I'd do to change Sel's thread is to stick a Group Schedule in his third post: 1vs3, 2vs4, 5 bye, etc.

Other than that its going well so far :)

Monaco parody? The way it looks is what I've schemed for my own town. Take over as dictator and setup checkpoints...


Not quite. Inspired by San Marino (hence the name), but a lot smaller. All information can be found on the NSwiki page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/San_Adriano).

haha Sel, no, BBQ is just a coincidence.

Turtleade must have paid a lot of money to have their logo larger than the Hatchling Cup text itself.

The only thing I'd do to change Sel's thread is to stick a Group Schedule in his third post: 1vs3, 2vs4, 5 bye, etc.

Other than that its going well so far :)

Yes I forgot about that. I meant to do it, but got sidetracked with other stuff. Thanks so much to those who say or think I've started well. I was a chip nervous that I messed up somewhere.

Not quite. Inspired by San Marino (hence the name), but a lot smaller. All information can be found on the NSwiki page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/San_Adriano).

San Adriano's a puppet, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I must agree that this was the best World Cup since 30. I think Schia hosted and they had that penalty tournament which I really liked and would bring back if I ever hosted CoH or WC.

Everyone seems to remember Schia hosting it, and forgets that I also hosted it, although the penalty tournament was Schia's idea, and a great idea it was

...Prux's post about getting confused with foosball already shows a wonderfully inventive mind at work in only their first RP.Indeed. The math-geekdom warms my heart. :D I've considered having a player with uniform number pi in the future.

This is the Wikipedia code for my team kits

{{Football kit
|pattern_ra = _red_hoops
|pattern_la = _blue_hoops
|pattern_b = _thinwhitestripes
|body = FFFF00
|leftarm = FFFF00
|rightarm = FFFF00
|shorts = 000000
|socks = 009900
|title = Home Colours}}

{{Football kit
|pattern_b = _thinwhitestripes
|body = F6ADC6
|leftarm = F6ADC6
|rightarm = F6ADC6
|shorts = 66023C
|socks = 66023C
|title = Away Colours}}

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6038/nbteamkitzc7.th.png (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nbteamkitzc7.png)

I hereby put forward my proposal for formal voting at a time deemed suitable by the WCC President:

"If in the event of there only being one host bid for a WCC-sanctioned event, a vote should still be held before a host is to be selected, with the options being similar to: A: Vote for the prospective bid, B: Vote for the prospective bid with a change or removal of any controversial sections or C: Re-open bids.

Should changes to the bid be made post selection it is up to presidential discretion to invalidate that selection."

Everyone seems to remember Schia hosting it, and forgets that I also hosted it, although the penalty tournament was Schia's idea, and a great idea it was

I didn't forget. Well I knew that you both did it but the other person mentioning Schia made me disregard you.

I'd just like to note that I think the BoF has got off to a good start already. Sel's being very professional in his posts, and Prux's post about getting confused with foosball already shows a wonderfully inventive mind at work in only their first RP.


I should take a moment to stress the extent to which the BoF is almost entirely Sel's work. Prior to his vacation I gave him some fairly restrained 'mentor' advice on a few issues, but otherwise he's been doing this entirely by himself - and a fine job he's making of it too.

If he continues in the same manner in which he's started, I doubt I'll be doing very much mentoring at all from now on.


On another issue entirely, I've contacted the mods over the database search issue some of you are having with my nation, just in case this is a bug.

I hate this stupid feature that has the mods review long posts made by new nations until they've made 10 posts. My roster has been submitted but I have to wait for it to be reviewed before I can see it.

I may spam this thread up a bit to get my postcount up to 10.

... and Prux's post about getting confused with foosball already shows a wonderfully inventive mind at work in only their first RP.


Indeed. The math-geekdom warms my heart. :D I've considered having a player with uniform number pi in the future.

Thanks for the praise.. but i'm only getting started.

Irrelevent humor works well doesn't it?

The roster for the PRUX Prawns!

Goalie: Red Herring

Defense:
Bill Fold
Tex Mex
John Jacob Jinglehimer-Schmidt
Real McCoy

Midfield:
Pi
Under Where
The Sphinx
3.1415

Attakers:
Pi R. Squared
Pies R. Round
007

Subs:
Italian w/ Hot Peppers
Meatball
Steak and Cheese
Pastrami


Oh God I can see it now: Meatball Sub passes to Pi, Pi to Pi, Pi back to Pi, Pi to underwhere, Under where to Steak and Cheese Sub.. Steak and Cheese Sub scores!!!!

WHO LET THIS PERSON IN? lol J/k Prux.. keep up the good work.

There are waaay too many world cups.

I am just going to create the ONE AND ONLY World Cup, and then everyone will be forced to compete in it ONCE.

There are waaay too many world cups.

I am just going to create the ONE AND ONLY World Cup, and then everyone will be forced to compete in it ONCE.

Rrrrriiiight.. Good Luck with that.

I hate this stupid feature that has the mods review long posts made by new nations until they've made 10 posts. My roster has been submitted but I have to wait for it to be reviewed before I can see it.

I may spam this thread up a bit to get my postcount up to 10.

Yeah, it's not NationStates, it's Jolt. About half of your ten will be caught back. :headbang:

There are waaay too many world cups.

I am just going to create the ONE AND ONLY World Cup, and then everyone will be forced to compete in it ONCE.

Rrrrriiiight.. Good Luck with that.

lmao!!!! I can't help it.... I think he thinks we have 36 simultaneous World Cups...:eek:

That's what passes for inventive now? Ugh, I'm gone for a little while and the whole place falls into disrepair.

Hello Everybody.

I would like to do a play a friendly match, if that's possible while I'm in the Hatchling Cup.

I'm in the Hatchling Cup, but Uiri, even though i have a better team, i'd give you a game...

I'm in the Hatchling Cup, but Uiri, even though i have a better team, i'd give you a game...

You're not in the Hatchling Cup. You didn't sign up. (Could you please delete your post in the Hatchling Cup?) You can still sign up for the regular World Cup though. Also, you're team would be just starting out and would not be that good at first. And unfortunately, there are no friendlies during the Hatchling Cup/Baptism of Fire. However, you will have the opportunity for friendlies during the World Cup Qualifiers.

Okay, so when's the next world cup?, can i enter?

Well they should let you in still.

For those in the Hatchling Cup/Baptism of Fire:
Scorinations will usually be posted around:
2000 EDT (New York)
0000 UTC (Zulu Time)
0100 BST/WEST (London)
1700 PDT (California)
1000 AEST (Sydney)

How about Solenial (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13019647&postcount=155) versus Sorthern Northland (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Sorthern_Northland_national_football_team)? :p

Yeah, it's not NationStates, it's Jolt. About half of your ten will be caught back. :headbang:

Yeah, I just had a lovely RP that probably won't show up for half an hour.

But when it does these two posts, along with it, will bring my count up to 10.:headbang:

It's not posts, it's posts with images from what I've been told.

It's not posts, it's posts with images from what I've been told.

The one I just made had no images or links at all, it was just a bit long.

In addition to links and images, posts of a certain length are held for review.

I think it also picks out certain words that are "suspicious".

And unfortunately, there are no friendlies during the Hatchling Cup/Baptism of Fire.

Actually, friendlies can be arranged independently by two countries at any time.

Actually, friendlies can be arranged independently by two countries at any time.

Still need a scorinator...arrange, yes. play, no.

Still need a scorinator...arrange, yes. play, no.

Except if they find someone to scorinate it. ;)

I can see what you mean; I'm simply pointing out, for the benefit of newcomers, that there isn't some sort of ban on nations playing friendlies during the BoF.

We sure have some keen new nations here! Wanting to playing two teams simultaneously.

BoF Score Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537281)

BoF Score Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537281)

Doing a good job there Sel! May the Hatchings be with you.

Doing a good job there Sel! May the Hatchings be with you.

Except I didn't set fixtures so NSFS did what it wanted :headbang:

We sure have some keen new nations here! Wanting to playing two teams simultaneously.

Indeed, and as qualifying draws closer, I'll be happy to run a scorination session of pre-cup friendlies. Just set up/make the arrangements here.

Bazalopes automatically accept any friendly challenge!

Well if we're to the point of already arranging friendlies Az-cz requests friendlies with:

Ariddia
Bettia

And is interested in playing a couple of more friendlies, preferably against high ranking teams.

Well if we're to the point of already arranging friendlies Az-cz requests friendlies with:

Ariddia
Bettia

And is interested in playing a couple of more friendlies, preferably against high ranking teams.

As always, the Aroras are well up for the now-traditional BetAz pre-tournament friendly.

If anyone fancies a friendly against my lads, they'd be very welcome. Just let us know first, okay ;)

WC-Hosts: would there be a slot for friendlies halfway through qualifying, as there have been for the past few tournaments?

We'd like to host the hosts for friendlies if that makes sense.

WC-Hosts: would there be a slot for friendlies halfway through qualifying, as there have been for the past few tournaments?

Unless we can get a few more signups, it's likely that we'll have to use groups with an odd number of teams, meaning bye days, meaning that friendlies can also be scheduled on those days.

As for the currently-requested friendlies... an RP thread isn't up yet, but we'll get it up soon. Whether you want us to be scorinating your friendlies before or after the RP thread goes up is up to you...

Well if we're to the point of already arranging friendlies Az-cz requests friendlies with:

Ariddia
Bettia


Ariddia accepts. Ariddia hasn't got a team yet, but can prepare one in time for a friendly.

Ariddia,

I'm not thinking of having the friendly scored until at least almost the end of the BoF, and I'm willing to have it scheduled at any point up until the end of qualifiers.

In the spirit of a former player, as the perennial friendly fixture whore of WC - we'll play just about anyone.

Sel Appa will accept any friendly after the BoF.

... an RP thread isn't up yet, but we'll get it up soon...

Ask, and thou shalt receive: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537318

Purple knights want friendlies with az cz and bettia perhaps arridia

The Marauders would welcome a home fixture against Az-cz, Jeruselem, or Bettia, or anyone really as long as it's at home :p

The Marauders would welcome a home fixture against Az-cz, Jeruselem, or Bettia, or anyone really as long as it's at home :p

You home sick Elf :D
We'll accept.

Lovisa intersting playing frendly matches with Sel Appia and Jerusalem

The Gnomes also are willing to travel to play the Elves. And Az-cz will play Taeshan as well, but with their B squad. In other words don't use the players from my roster for the Taeshan match.

Lovisa intersting playing frendly matches with Sel Appia and Jerusalem

That's Sel Appa :p

And the whore says yes.

Lovisa intersting playing frendly matches with Sel Appa and Jerusalem

Ah what the heck :)

Quakmybush will auto accept any friendlies.

Also, we challenge the frenchies (Oli) to a match.

Squornshelous will accept pretty much any friendly, and challenges Az-cz to a third, mid-qualifying friendly.

I will also accept friendlies on behalf of my puppet Vikingholm, should anyone want to schedule one.

Squornshelous will accept pretty much any friendly, and challenges Az-cz to a third, mid-qualifying friendly.

I will also accept friendlies on behalf of my puppet Vikingholm, should anyone want to schedule one.

My puppet Jeru FC will take on yours. Jeru FC got smashed last time they played the real team.

I would like to say that, only two days in, I have new respect for hosts. And you guys do a much bigger tournament. This little bit I do seems like a lot and some problems caused scorination to last longer than it should. The scores were fine, but...well next time I'll be using a more advanced form of NSFS.

My puppet Jeru FC will take on yours. Jeru FC got smashed last time they played the real team.

The Berserkir of Vikingholm will proudly lay waste to your puppet villages.



I didn't mention that Vikingholm may accept friendlies on behalf of Squornshelous as well.

i want to learn how to scorinate in case of future world baseball classic, hockey cups and world cups also friendlies

Milchama challenges the Monks and/or fishlovers (AIF) to a friendly(lies). I'd rather play The Archregimancy.

If anyone else wants to play a friendly against me just say so and I probably won't decline.

Milchama challenges the Monks and/or fishlovers (AIF) to a friendly(lies). I'd rather play The Archregimancy.

If anyone else wants to play a friendly against me just say so and I probably won't decline.

The monks accept a friendly against the Misguided Monotheists of Milchama, who risk their eternal soul by rejecting the Incarnation. We'll happily travel to Milchama.

Meanwhile, I found this detail of a 1965 Doctor Who story somewhere else on the net....

Meanwhile, the Doctor and Barbara have had no luck finding their friends, night has fallen and the wind has begun to pick up, covering all tracks including their own. They decide to return to the TARDIS, not entirely certain of the direction, as the TARDIS may have been covered by the sand. A sandstorm breaks out which lasts all night. When they awake they see a Dalek, buried by the sandstorm, emerging from the sand. Two other Daleks soon arrive as well. They cannot find the time travellers, but they do locate the TARDIS under the sand and begin to have it dug out by a group of native Aridians, whom they have enslaved. The slave force is exterminated when they are of no further value.

The Doctor and Barbara are saved by other amphibious humanoid Aridians, who explain that Aridius was not always a desert, but that the suns have got nearer the planet and destroyed the seas. Only themselves and the hideous Mire Beasts are left, and the Mire Beasts can only be contained by destroying sections of the Aridian city that have become over-run. The Daleks soon contact the Aridians in the underground city and tell them they will leave Aridius if the Doctor and his party are handed over, and the elders agree to this arrangement. The Aridians also find Vicki and Ian, who was injured when a wall collapsed in an explosion used to kill the Mire Beasts that were threatening them. The Mire Beasts soon reappear, killing the Aridian Malsan who was holding the party prisoner in preparation for the handover. The Doctor and his friends flee in the confusion and manage to evade a Dalek scout and get back to the TARDIS.


Hmmmmmm.....

Just for the new folks about my Jeru FC puppet, it's a puppet nation but I don't use that way - Jeru FC is a team of army players from Jeruselem so it's not really a seperate nation as such.

The Gnomes will happily battle Squornshelous yet again. It can't hurt our quest to get to a championship.

Friendlies

Specific Offer for Az-cz - Miceland Friendly and Baz- The Archreg
Baz - Miceland

The Adepts of the Order of Saint Vianna, representing both the Nation of Konora and the Holy Church of Sarism, would happily play any friendlies available. As long as they can hang around for a while to pass out pamphlets to promote the Church and it's worship of the Lord and the Holy Game to your heathen populations, of course.

(Or, prayhaps, we could wax poetic about hideously designed uniforms. That's always fun too. :p )

Friendlies

Specific Offer for Az-cz - Miceland Friendly and Baz- The Archreg
Baz - Miceland

Accepted.

What the heck is up with the moderator's and them stalling my post? I thought that happened only once in your first 10 posts??

Well, you see, it's actually just the job of Jolt to irritate you to no end whatsoever.

Well, you see, it's actually just the job of Jolt to irritate you to no end whatsoever.

So it's like every other forum on the Net then huh? lol

So it's like every other forum on the Net then huh? lol

TIP

If writing really long RP, do it in notepad and then copy into jolt later.
Good chance you'll lose it if typing it straight in.

Thankfully, the one I have pending is still in notepad and I didn't accidentally delete it. Particularly because it seems I won't be seeing it until tomorrow.

Qazox requests the following friendlies:

Jeruselem (in Qazox.. i think i played you away last time) (Pre-WC)
Ad'ihan On the road (Pre-WC)
Novapsolu On the Road (Pre-WC)

If there is a break between the halves of qualifing, Qazox would like to play at the defending champs Ariddia, since we missed them during the Coupe de la Francophonie.

Qazox requests the following friendlies:

Jeruselem (in Qazox.. i think i played you away last time) (Pre-WC)
Ad'ihan On the road (Pre-WC)
Novapsolu On the Road (Pre-WC)

If there is a break between the halves of qualifing, Qazox would like to play at the defending champs Ariddia, since we missed them during the Coupe de la Francophonie.


que oui !

...

Jeruselem wants a friendly against the Monks since we never seem to play in the finals.

que oui !



Is that "Why Yes!"? Oui, I know is yes

Is that "Why Yes!"? Oui, I know is yes

OUI! Means "of course!, you bet!"

See http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/a/oui.htm

Sure, Az-cz will take on their old friends Miceland.

Kura-Pelland seek a friendly with anyone. We would particularly welcome teams on the fringes of the top 32 (Bostopia, Rejistania/HURD, etc) to play here in Trilan.

The Marauders would welcome a home fixture against Az-cz, Jeruselem, or Bettia, or anyone really as long as it's at home :p

We're there dude.

Purple knights want friendlies with az cz and bettia perhaps arridia

Okay, we accept. Purple vs Green & Gold - should be an interesting colour combination.

Hmmm, me and Bettia play each other and we both play ESF and Taeshan as well.

Hell if Taeshan plays ESF we might as well give a trophy of some sort to the team who does the best in those friendlies.

i want to learn how to scorinate in case of future world baseball classic, hockey cups and world cups also friendlies

Here is a very simple way to generate a score without Rankings or RP Bonus factoring in. Copy and paste the following into a spreadsheet cell (such as MS Excel) and see what you get. Press F9 a few times and you should get numbers randomly ranging from 0 to 4. Code:

=ROUNDDOWN((RAND())*4.25, 0)

Increasing or decreasing the number 4.25 is a simple way of increasing and decreasing the possible scorelines, which can represent RP or a Higher Rank. Now, this example is beyond simple and if you offer to host a tournament using this scorinator you will be laughed out of the community, most likely. But I hope you get the idea.

There are as many ways of scorinating as there are people who do so. My favorite method is just an extension on the above with outside factors multiplying the random result. Excel and other spreadsheets are very simple ways to do so.

Generally, scorinators incorporate:

-random numbers
-the preexisting ranks/points of the teams
-an RP bonus
-the "styles" that teams use (offensive or defensive)

Kura-Pelland seek a friendly with anyone. We would particularly welcome teams on the fringes of the top 32 (Bostopia, Rejistania/HURD, etc) to play here in Trilan.

We'll happily accept a friendly in Trilan. Please inform your customs officials that our managers clothes were not taken as a prank, she's always that way.

Qazox requests the following friendlies:

Novapsolu On the Road (Pre-WC)

If there is a break between the halves of qualifing, Qazox would like to play at the defending champs Ariddia, since we missed them during the Coupe de la Francophonie.


We accept the friendly. Also, rather than there being a friendly day between qualifying, there will be two byes per team, giving you a chance to host a friendly or two then. I can't ensure that Ad'ihan and I can score them, though I know I might be willing to play in them.

TIP

If writing really long RP, do it in notepad and then copy into jolt later.
Good chance you'll lose it if typing it straight in.

I think that's an IE thing because Mozilla seems to cache most forms.

Also, I'm not that good at making uniforms, so if anyone has the time to help Taeshan:
can you make my purple knights purple with green trim home unis and black numbers and away jerseys with purple and white trim with gtree numbers

Lovisa will accept any friendlies.

@ Sel Appa

sorry for my mistake with i

Sol F.C would like a Friendly, if you or someone else Scorinates...

Confirmation of Kura-Pelland v Bostopia friendly.

Sure all play esf for a little tourney oh and bettia it would be purple and green vs green and gold but my coubtry has more jerseys then this

Jeruselem wants a friendly against the Monks since we never seem to play in the finals.

Can you wait a few days, Jeru?

IC'ly, there's absolutely no chance that the Archregimancy would agree to a friendly against the Whore of Babylon's unholy brood as the conservative faction is currently in control of the MFA and the Holy Synod.

However, I hope to do an RP in the next couple of days that will bring the liberal faction into power of both organisations; this would make a Jeruselem - Archregimancy friendly more feasible.

Though you will have to agree in advance that any attempt by Dazza's family and their team members to seduce or otherwise sexually corrupt any members of my team will automatically fail. You can RP an attempt - but you have to agree that the attempt will fail.

Can you wait a few days, Jeru?

IC'ly, there's absolutely no chance that the Archregimancy would agree to a friendly against the Whore of Babylon's unholy brood as the conservative faction is currently in control of the MFA and the Holy Synod.

However, I hope to do an RP in the next couple of days that will bring the liberal faction into power of both organisations; this would make a Jeruselem - Archregimancy friendly more feasible.

Though you will have to agree in advance that any attempt by Dazza's family and their team members to seduce or otherwise sexually corrupt any members of my team will automatically fail. You can RP an attempt - but you have to agree that the attempt will fail.

Yeah, I can wait. :)
Dazza's not in the team but the daughter Kate (or now Princess Katherine Alexandra Dallas) is around now.

I suppose I have to pull out my little cheat sheet of "top ten choices to challenge people" -_*

You know, if I still had my old nation, people would at least consider having a friendly with me.

You know, if I still had my old nation, people would at least consider having a friendly with me.

We're turning into elitists here :p
We'll play Casari.

You know, if I still had my old nation, people would at least consider having a friendly with me.


Your new nation is clearly filled with heretics. Heretics I'd take great joy in denouncing if I weren't about to launch a period of a kinder, gentler Archregimancy. I might have to have protesters against the new regime denounce you anyway. Just for laughs.

I suppose I have to pull out my little cheat sheet of "top ten choices to challenge people" -_*

The Holy Empire will gladly challenge the Celestial Empire.

Prepare to feel the full force of the greatest comeback in World Cup History - the return to the centre of our midfield by Imperial WC1-4 captain Juan Tzimisces.

All this talk about heretics and harlots made me think of what would happen if The Archregimancy ever played Vikingholm, and what kind of loot the Berserkir would drag home from the Dreamed Realm.

The Holy Empire will gladly challenge the Celestial Empire.

Prepare to feel the full force of the greatest comeback in World Cup History - the return to the centre of our midfield by Imperial WC1-4 captain Juan Tzimisces.

People in your country must grow like wine (perhaps the better analogy - cheese) :/

anyways, I accept any and all challenges - as long as someone decides to scorinate for the two of us (unless you don't mind if I/you do the favor).

We're turning into elitists here :p
We'll play Casari.

I'm confounded - elitest whores? I didn't know it was possible.


(ooc: if anyone takes offense at my comments, please feel free to return the favor)

I'm confounded - elitest whores? I didn't know it was possible.


(ooc: if anyone takes offense at my comments, please feel free to return the favor)

Paris Hilton :D

Paris Hilton :D

well... there, the favor was returned.

All this talk about heretics and harlots made me think of what would happen if The Archregimancy ever played Vikingholm, and what kind of loot the Berserkir would drag home from the Dreamed Realm.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that any attempt to engage in violent behaviour would find the Berserkir deported from the Dreamed Realm immediately...

There's actually a fine history of interaction between Vikings and the Orthodox. The nobility of the Kievian Rus seem to have originated among Scandinavians who sailed down the Volga, and the Byzantine Emperor's feared personal Varangian Guard was initially manned entirely by Norsemen wielding long axes (though it later came to also include Anglo-Saxon refugees from the Norman invasion). Norwegian king Harald Hardråde (Harald III) even personally served in the guard. The Varangian Guard were the only element of the Byzantine army to stand by the Emperor's person prior to the sack of Constantinople by the (Catholic) Fourth Crusade.

The specific origins of the Guard are in the 6000 mixed Scandinavian and Russian troops that Prince Vladimir of Kiev sent to Emperor Basil II in exchange for Christian baptism and the hand of a Byzantine princess in marriage.

So the Archregimancy and the Holy Empire might well both cause considerable confusion in Vikingholm by welcoming the Berserkirs as honoured warriors for Orthodoxy.

And as a former resident of Iceland, I have to ask after reading through that team roster.... been reading many Icelandic sagas recently? For what it's worth, both the Laxdaela Saga and Njal's Saga mention the Varangian guard, and the former specifically names Bolli Bollason (born c.1006) as the first Icelander to serve in the Guard.

"Bolli rode from the ship with twelve men, and all his followers were dressed in scarlet, and rode on gilt saddles, and all were they a trusty band, though Bolli was peerless among them. He had on the clothes of fur which the Garth-king had given him, he had over all a scarlet cape; and he had Footbiter girt on him, the hilt of which was dight with gold, and the grip woven with gold, he had a gilded helmet on his head, and a red shield on his flank, with a knight painted on it in gold. He had a dagger in his hand, as is the custom in foreign lands; and whenever they took quarters the women paid heed to nothing but gazing at Bolli and his grandeur, and that of his followers."

Edit: Good Lord... there really is a re-enactment society for anything (http://www.nvg.org.au/)these days.

Your new nation is clearly filled with heretics.

Heh, the enjoyable part is getting to declare you as Heretics right back. =p

Casari's going to come back for the next one, more than likely- this is a one off nation for a particular storyline and the spread of disturbing, Soccer-worshiping religions that no sane person would join, in the hopes of trying to get some kind of Multinational Roleplaying going before getting disheartened with RPing and leaving again, or beginning a storyline what makes even less since than the past Casari ones have. And that's going to be even more of a challenge.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that any attempt to engage in violent behaviour would find the Berserkir deported from the Dreamed Realm immediately...

There's actually a fine history of interaction between Vikings and the Orthodox. The nobility of the Kievian Rus seem to have originated among Scandinavians who sailed down the Volga, and the Byzantine Emperor's feared personal Varangian Guard was initially manned entirely by Norsemen wielding long axes (though it later came to also include Anglo-Saxon refugees from the Norman invasion). Norwegian king Harald Hardråde (Harald III) even personally served in the guard. The Varangian Guard were the only element of the Byzantine army to stand by the Emperor's person prior to the sack of Constantinople by the (Catholic) Fourth Crusade.

The specific origins of the Guard are in the 6000 mixed Scandinavian and Russian troops that Prince Vladimir of Kiev sent to Emperor Basil II in exchange for Christian baptism and the hand of a Byzantine princess in marriage.

So the Archregimancy and the Holy Empire might well both cause considerable confusion in Vikingholm by welcoming the Berserkirs as honoured warriors for Orthodoxy.

And as a former resident of Iceland, I have to ask after reading through that team roster.... been reading many Icelandic sagas recently? For what it's worth, both the Laxdaela Saga and Njal's Saga mention the Varangian guard, and the former specifically names Bolli Bollason (born c.1006) as the first Icelander to serve in the Guard.

Edit: Good Lord... there really is a re-enactment society for anything (http://www.nvg.org.au/)these days.

That's true enough, Rurik sailed up the river from the Baltic and established the Varangian realm near what is now Novgorod, and two of his men, Askold and Dir took control of Kiev along with some other Varangians and got along quite well with the local slavic people. In fact, chieftanship of the faction passed to a Slav named Oleg after Rurik's death.

However, Vikingholm draws its heritage from the Danish and Norwegian strain of vikings, and their practice of raiding coastal towns, and especially monastaries for loot. Now, I don't wish to appear cynical, but the main reason that the Varangian Guard served the Byzantine Emperor's is that they were well paid for their services. Hardraada spent his time with the Varangians while in hiding from powerful political enemies back in Norway.

If you take a look at the Vikingholm roster, you have Ragnar Lodbrok, who lead the first big viking raid, besieging and burning Paris, along with his son Bjorn Ironside. You have Harold Bluetooth, his son Sweyn Forkbeard and his son Magnus Barelegs who ruled over Denmark, Norway, and over half of England.

As for the sagas, yeah, maybe a few.

Now, I don't wish to appear cynical, but the main reason that the Varangian Guard served the Byzantine Emperor's is that they were well paid for their services. Hardraada spent his time with the Varangians while in hiding from powerful political enemies back in Norway.


Of course the Guard were well paid, but so were plenty of other foreigners in Imperial service; the Catalan Company were fabulously well-paid under Andronicus II, but that didn't stop them from going on a rampage through most of what was left of the Palaeologian Empire.

The Varangian Guard do seem to have been motivated by a tradition of personal honour and genuine loyalty to the person of the Emperor in their 250 years of existence. In modern terms, the closest equivalent might be the Papal Swiss Guard.

That said, OOC I very much appreciate the difference between your Norse/Danish Viking raiders and the Varangian Guard and Kievian Rus. But should either of my teams get drawn against Vikingholm, don't expect me to make that distinction IC'ly!

IC, they're all Varangians to the Dreamed Realm. Which could make for some interesting RP....

Speaking of Vikings .... LOL

I'm playing Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind at the moment.
My character is a female Crusader named Dazza, she's a Nord.

She's fully enclosed in steel armour. I could put screenshots if people want.

She's fully enclosed in steel armour. I could put screenshots if people want.

Yes Please.

Georg Nbent in "The fresh prince of the bales"

Well this is the story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down, and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there, I'll tell you how I become the prince of a Cup in Sel Appia. In west Vuam and Isma born and raised, on the pitch is wher I spent most of my days. Shoutin' out, tacklin' shootin', all cool and all playin' some football outside of training, when a couple of teams that were up to no good started making trouble in my BoF. I got in one little game and my mmom got scared and said, "You're goin' with that Ewin and Robett to Sel Appia". I entered the pitch, and when I was there the opponent were Rastafariburg and they had dreads in their hair. If anything, I could say this side was rare, but I thought "Na, forget it. Yo win us this bale!" They started slow, but the ref was on their side, half an hour played and we were down to ten, by half-time we were only 9. I tried as hard as I could, but they were too rough, and my shots were wasted on their posts. Then they got lucky, and the ref gave them a penalty that was quite imaginary, at 1-0 up we went down to 8, and they got a second goal just before time. I came to the hotel about 7 or 8, and I yelled to the cabby "Yo Holmes, smell ya later!" I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there to sit on my couch as the prince of the Bales.

Funniest RP i've ever read :D

Yes Please.

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dazzathecrusadersm8.png

Imageshack has popups, turn the blockers on.

Oddly, she's standing outside a girly club in Suran at the moment!

I wish I could say I've never been there... But, well, an Imperial has needs...

A plea from the hosts: All your friendly requests are getting lost in confirmation and other friendly requests. Could I ask that you sort friendlies out via telegram then post confirmed friendlies here? It would make our job of having to look at what we need to scorinate easier instead of flipping back and forth between two pages trying to figure out who plays who and whether the other party has agreed to it. Cheers!

Bazalonia - The Archregimancy
Miceland - Az-cz
Bazalonia - Miceland

A plea from the hosts: All your friendly requests are getting lost in confirmation and other friendly requests. Could I ask that you sort friendlies out via telegram then post confirmed friendlies here? It would make our job of having to look at what we need to scorinate easier instead of flipping back and forth between two pages trying to figure out who plays who and whether the other party has agreed to it. Cheers!

Kura-Pelland -v- Bostopia

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dazzathecrusadersm8.png

Dazza loves big swords! Who'd have known?

Here are the confirmed friendlies for Az-cz (note that they shouldn't all be scored before the cup starts. The Taeshan and Ariddia friendlies should be precup but Bettia and Squornshelous should happen during the course of the actual qualifiers):

Az-cz v Bettia (in Az-cz)
Az-cv v Squornshelous (in Az-cz?)
Az-cz v Ariddia (in Ariddia?)
Az-cz v Miceland (in Miceland?)
Az-cz v Taeshan (in Az-cz)

Also could Squornshelous, Ariddia and Miceland confirm those locations. I'd like to play wherever we didn't play the last time around, but I can't remember where those were.

For Jeruselem and Jeru FC

Jeruselem vs Elves (Away - definite)
Jeruselem vs Lovisa (Away I think)
Jeru FC vs Vikingholm (Away I think)

...

Not quite confirmed yet
Jeruselem vs The Archregimancy (Not sure)

Here are the confirmed friendlies for Az-cz (note that they shouldn't all be scored before the cup starts. The Taeshan and Ariddia friendlies should be precup but Bettia and Squornshelous should happen during the course of the actual qualifiers):

Az-cz v Bettia (in Az-cz)
Az-cv v Squornshelous (in Az-cz?)
Az-cz v Ariddia (in Ariddia?)
Az-cz v Miceland (in Miceland?)
Az-cz v Taeshan (in Az-cz)

Also could Squornshelous, Ariddia and Miceland confirm those locations. I'd like to play wherever we didn't play the last time around, but I can't remember where those were.

In miceland is fine.

Sorry forgot one:

Az-cz v ESF (In ESF?)

Dear all, one is currently in an internet kiosk in Prague airport, waiting for Easyjet to open their check-in to let me back in to good old blighty.

Di Bradini Cup Signups look o be at 20, so i'll resolve that when I'm back in the UK. See you later :D

P.S. Prague is lovely!

...one is currently in an internet kiosk in Prague airport...

For the love of the game, eh? :p

taeshan in az cz Taeshan most likely in bettia and can anybody help me with unis

I came across a video allegedly of a Saudi footballer being kicked in the head or neck and then dying about a minute later. Does anyone know the who, what, when and such for it?

I won't post the video because I got suspended once for posting a video that was, admittedly, not appropriate. But it is easy to find on YouTube.

Why not sort out friendlies in the thread for discussion and announce them in a thread actually involved with the current World Cup? :p

Cafundéu (and Estresse Intenso) are open for friendlies too.

Cafundéu (and Estresse Intenso) are open for friendlies too.

I might take that offer a bit later on.

ESF v Jeruselem
ESF v Az-cz
ESF v Bettia
all in the ESF

Quote:
The Doctor and Barbara are saved by other amphibious humanoid Aridians, who explain that Aridius was not always a desert, but that the suns have got nearer the planet and destroyed the seas...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/regnans/st--1r18.jpg

I didn't realise they were so ugly. :p

BTW, I'm so old I think I saw this particular set of episodes when it was shown in Oz the first time. I would have been 8 or 9 though.

Meanwhile, I found this detail of a 1965 Doctor Who story somewhere else on the net....

Hmmmmmm.....

I categorically deny that the Ariddians are amphibious, or that they have had any contact with the Daleks. :p

("Ariddia", incidentally, comes not from "arid" but from "Aridd", my nickname -or rather pseudonym- for the past ten or eleven years, for purely anagrammatic reasons.)

As far as the Az-cz - Squornshelous friendly, I think it was held in Squornshelous last, so that one should be in Az-cz this time around.


Vikingholm would be happy to host Jeru FC.

Vikingholm as a nations exists on two levels. One one level, it is ruled from Asgard, the Land of the Gods, by Odin, the Allfather. However, there is also a real world Vikingholm, inhabited by regular mortals. Jeru FC is an army team, so gaining entrance to Valhalla would not be a problem, most teams visiting Vikingholm won't be able to ascend to that plane however.

Vephrall would like to announce that they are open for friendly consideration as well. Preferred opponents in the 30-70 ranking range, but others will be considered.

Dreamed Realm friendlies

The Archregimancy:

@ Milchama
@ Bazalonia
@ Jeruselem


The Holy Empire [AIF]:

Hosting Daehanjeithingymajiggle
Hosting Vikingholm (confirmed in next post)



New Holy Empire challenge: The Holy Empire would like to invite the Varangians of Vikingholm to the Dreamed Realm to play in Miklagard (better known to us as Alasdairopolis).

Vikingholm will accept The Holy Empire's challenge. We have learned much of this Fotball, and will leave most of our weapons and siege engines behind.

For Jeruselem and Jeru FC

Jeruselem vs Elves (Away - definite)
Jeruselem vs Lovisa (Away I think)
Jeru FC vs Vikingholm (Away I think)

...

Not quite confirmed yet
Jeruselem vs The Archregimancy (Not sure)

You forgot about Hosting me... :(:(:(

You forgot about Hosting me... :(:(:(

Jeruselem vs Elves (Away - definite)
Jeruselem vs Lovisa (Away I think)
Jeru FC vs Vikingholm (Away I think)
Jeruselem vs Qazox (Home)
Jeruselem vs The Archregimancy (At home)

Sorry!

NP jeruselem

Confirming the Az-cz - Squornshelous friendly will be played in Az-cz.

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Alasdair I Frosticus/The Archregimancy
Ariddia
Az-cz/Ulzaxid
Assegai Developments
Bazalonia/Atheistic Right
Bettia/Northern Bettia
Bostopia
Capitalizt Slani/Commerce Heights JSY
Cafundeu/Estresse Intenso
Errinundera/Patusan
Elves Security Forces/Demot
Geisenfried
Jeruselem/Jeru FC
Kiryu-shi
Konora
Kristovenia
Kura-Pelland
Liverpool England
Milchama
Novapsolu
Oliverry
Qazox/Sativaville
Quakmybush/Bushes Been Quaked
Rejistania/The HURD
Schiavonia
Sel Appa
Squornshelous
The Lowland Clans
Tynelia/Jariss
Vephrall
Vilita/Turori
Wentland
Zwangzug

Police have obtained this picture from a security camera, and ask the publc's help in bringing this person to justice:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Trebekhr.jpg/250px-Trebekhr.jpg

They believe his name is Kebert Xela.

Someone's A Family Guy fan.

Az-cz votes to approve both proposals.

Hatchling Cup/BoF scorination may be a bit late tonight because it's my birthday and we're going to this place where it could take 2 hours to get through it all (hibachi). Good luck to those who can still go through. :)

If I may ask something of those of you who have read the Hatchling Cup, What do you think of my RP's? Just wanting some feedback, other than Sel Appa's (since they are the host, they could be a bit biased)

And TY Qazox for noticing the Family guy references, (i'm trying to do one a post if possible)

I'll give you some feedback Prux. If someone could give me feedback that would be great.

All the RPs are great. Red Herring is too easily distracted. Quagmire wouldn't be able to stay in a relationship for more than a week, nevermind marrying someone. '...Pies R. Round got his crust in on a corner kick...' that's good. I thought they were just names and not food or numbers. Beware the Uiri players who will eat pie crust and meatballs.

I don't get the Family Guy references, Prux, but yours are still good.

Major, major compliments to Cafundéu for the computer game. That's just awesome. :D

...It's also crashed twice since I posted. [14 minutes prior to the first edit] :/ Still fun, though.

Another edit: The crashes seem to come when someone's taking a shot. This probably isn't on Cafundéu's end, though-maybe I should e-mail the original programmer?

Cafundéu (and Estresse Intenso) are open for friendlies too.

Lovisa interesting to play a frendly match

I'd like to play a friendly against you, Lovisa. Just choose the place (home or away).

I don't get the Family Guy references, Prux, but yours are still good.

Major, major compliments to Cafundéu for the computer game. That's just awesome. :D

...It's also crashed twice since I posted. [14 minutes prior to the first edit] :/ Still fun, though.

Another edit: The crashes seem to come when someone's taking a shot. This probably isn't on Cafundéu's end, though-maybe I should e-mail the original programmer?
What computer game?

Check the wiki-Cafundéu adapted a World Cup game to be specific for 36.

Nevertheless, I think I might have identified the problem, and if it is what I'm hypothesizing everybody else should be okay.

Anyone know how to put a third place match on this template (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Template:Round8)? I glipped it off Wikipedia, so...

I'll give you some feedback Prux. If someone could give me feedback that would be great.

All the RPs are great. Red Herring is too easily distracted. Quagmire wouldn't be able to stay in a relationship for more than a week, nevermind marrying someone. '...Pies R. Round got his crust in on a corner kick...' that's good. I thought they were just names and not food or numbers. Beware the Uiri players who will eat pie crust and meatballs.

Thanks, and your RP's have been good as well. Originally, I was going to just use the numbers and names just as that, but decide to "flesh them out' as real persons, numbers, food etc. such as the case may be. Also, I've included a James Bond reference every time as well (well duh with a 007 on my team...lol)

Is there a limit to how many threads we can subscribe too?

Just to be clear, the roster Ulzaxid just posted is actually for Az-cz.

Host Announcement:

with 98 signups, the World Cup signup list is now CLOSED. Any signups after this point will not be ensured an entry into the competition, but should a nation currently around cease before the draw (to be coming soon), they will be on the waiting list for an entry (and will come before the puppets on the list - though at the moment, there are none).

Congrats to Ariddia (on behalf of the Arctic Islands) for winning yet another tournament. I've just realized that he's got three tournament under his belt...

WC36;
Franco Cup;
OFC.

If Ariddia was permitted to participate in the BoF, he'd probably win that too.

Congrats to Ariddia (on behalf of the Arctic Islands) for winning yet another tournament. I've just realized that he's got three tournament under his belt...

WC36;
Franco Cup;
OFC.

If Ariddia was permitted to participate in the BoF, he'd probably win that too.

I think he did way back when... heck the only thing Ariddia hasn't won over the last year is the Women's World Cup, the Oxen Cup and maybe the CoH.

And speaking of which.... I'm considering bring back the Women's World Cup. It's been about 6 months since the last one, so there's a chance some of the newer WC teams would be interested.

Interest thread Here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537809

I think he did way back when...

I don't think so. When Ariddia first started, the BoF didn't exist. When Ariddia returned after its leave of absence, I believe the BoF rules in effect at the time stated that Ariddia couldn't participate. I might be wrong, though.

Congrats to Ariddia (on behalf of the Arctic Islands) for winning yet another tournament. I've just realized that he's got three tournament under his belt...

Oh for the days when Starblaydia were World and AOCAF champs, and #1 in the World and AO too.. *sigh*

Is there a limit to how many threads we can subscribe too?

Don't think so.

Congrats to Ariddia (on behalf of the Arctic Islands) for winning yet another tournament. I've just realized that he's got three tournament under his belt...

WC36;
Franco Cup;
OFC.


Thanks. And thank you for the competition.

I also won the Futsal Cup way back when.

I don't think so. When Ariddia first started, the BoF didn't exist. When Ariddia returned after its leave of absence, I believe the BoF rules in effect at the time stated that Ariddia couldn't participate. I might be wrong, though.

No, you're quite correct. I've never taken part in the BoF.

And speaking of which.... I'm considering bring back the Women's World Cup. It's been about 6 months since the last one, so there's a chance some of the newer WC teams would be interested.

Interest thread Here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537809

Would you stop with that. I'm starting to think about putting women on my team and you bring this back. :headbang:

Get out the Vote! Vote (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537809) NO for the Women's World Cup!

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If you're drawn in Ariddia's group and you're not sure what to RP, here are two suggestions:

1) Have Shahrour (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Jamilah_Shahrour) get into trouble. You can even arrest her, detain her, deport her, or have her roughed up by government or corporate agents. Feel free to create a diplomatic incident. Just don't harm her too badly; she needs to be able to continue to play football. Alternately, you can have your government simply deny her an entrace visa: that in itself will create a minor diplomatic incident.

2) Have your team behave disrespectfully towards the ulek (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ulek). That would include refusing to stand and face it, gesturing back at it in any way, or a player or the coach making disrespectful comments about it before the match. Although that won't create a diplomatic incident, it will create tension.

Also, whether or not you're drawn in Ariddia's group, I think it would be a good idea for teams to include players born in other nations. If you haven't completed your roster yet, feel free to include a player born in Ariddia, or of Ariddian descent. He or she may have any sort of name, but Ariddia's three national languages are French, English and Wymgani. A Wymgani name is generally three syllables (sometimes two or four), most often based on a combination of vowels and of the consonents w, s, l or sh ("t" is rarer but not unusual). (Examples of famous Wymgani: Wa We, Sho Ea, Tu Wesh, Asul E'i, Ue Alt, Iol Et, Si Ewe, Wol Asu...).

Ariddia,

I'm way ahead of you. I have a player on my team who was raised in Ariddia, although ethnically Az-czid. Also, I hope I'm not in your group, as to be the #7 team in the world and be stuck with the champs would be rough. But we've got a friendly, so.....

I'm way ahead of you.

Good. ;) Your W37 roster isn't up yet, is it? Or did I just miss it somehow?

Ariddia,　it should be up.

No, you're quite correct. I've never taken part in the BoF.

Neither have I actually, I started - well that's with Jeruselem. Technically I have with my puppet Jeru FC.

Neither have I actually, I started - well that's with Jeruselem. Technically I have with my puppet Jeru FC.

Squornshelous never has, and most likely never will participate in the BoF, but my puppets, San-Lorenzo, Molvania and now Vikingholm have.

Squornshelous never has, and most likely never will participate in the BoF, but my puppets, San-Lorenzo, Molvania and now Vikingholm have.

Same boat as me then (insert bad joke)! A lot of old teams here never seem to have played a BoF (I started in WC11, BoF started in WC12).

Errinundera took part in BoF26 without me even knowing until after the event.

...Also, whether or not you're drawn in Ariddia's group, I think it would be a good idea for teams to include players born in other nations. If you haven't completed your roster yet, feel free to include a player born in Ariddia, or of Ariddian descent. He or she may have any sort of name, but Ariddia's three national languages are French, English and Wymgani. A Wymgani name is generally three syllables (sometimes two or four), most often based on a combination of vowels and of the consonents w, s, l or sh ("t" is rarer but not unusual). (Examples of famous Wymgani: Wa We, Sho Ea, Tu Wesh, Asul E'i, Ue Alt, Iol Et, Si Ewe, Wol Asu...).

That raises an intriguing question for Errinundera. We have no border controls whatsoever and no passports. People may come and go as they please. What makes someone Errinundrian? I don't know. Are other nations happy if I roleplay that one or more of our players are refugees from their right-wing capitalist hellholes?

BTW, I can't do it this cup as I have already determined my team list. I haven't posted it the roster thread as I want to finish NSwiki pages for some of the squad members. The team can be seen here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Errinundera_National_Football_Squad#The_team).

If you're drawn in Ariddia's group and you're not sure what to RP, here are two suggestions:

1) Have Shahrour (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Jamilah_Shahrour) get into trouble. You can even arrest her, detain her, deport her, or have her roughed up by government or corporate agents. Feel free to create a diplomatic incident. Just don't harm her too badly; she needs to be able to continue to play football. Alternately, you can have your government simply deny her an entrace visa: that in itself will create a minor diplomatic incident.

2) Have your team behave disrespectfully towards the ulek (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ulek). That would include refusing to stand and face it, gesturing back at it in any way, or a player or the coach making disrespectful comments about it before the match. Although that won't create a diplomatic incident, it will create tension.

Also, whether or not you're drawn in Ariddia's group, I think it would be a good idea for teams to include players born in other nations. If you haven't completed your roster yet, feel free to include a player born in Ariddia, or of Ariddian descent. He or she may have any sort of name, but Ariddia's three national languages are French, English and Wymgani. A Wymgani name is generally three syllables (sometimes two or four), most often based on a combination of vowels and of the consonents w, s, l or sh ("t" is rarer but not unusual). (Examples of famous Wymgani: Wa We, Sho Ea, Tu Wesh, Asul E'i, Ue Alt, Iol Et, Si Ewe, Wol Asu...).

Actually - can you do me a favour? Look in NSWIKI for "The Dallas Clan", I'll use the Wymgani names of the Dallas clan if you can create them for me.

Would you stop with that. I'm starting to think about putting women on my team and you bring this back. :headbang:

Get out the Vote! Vote (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537809) NO for the Women's World Cup!


Sel, I'm not saying you shouldn't express an opinion on the WWC, but I'll post a gentle reminder of my strong advice to try and keep your posts fairly restrained while you're hosting the BoF.

You'll be off the leash again soon enough...

And remember, the WWC has no WCC affiliation, so there's absolutely nothing stopping you from ignoring Qaz completely and putting women on your team regardless of the existence of the WWC.

And remember, the WWC has no WCC affiliation, so there's absolutely nothing stopping you from ignoring Qaz completely and putting women on your team regardless of the existence of the WWC.


One.. to SelAppa on the BoF: It has been interesting and you have done a good job.

two: Arch's last post is the reason why there should be a Women's World Cup, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORLD CUP ITSELF!

It's like the Under-21 Cup, CoH, and BoF. The WWC is basically practice for the World Cup itself, with no KPB strings attached. It's totally optional, and you don't have to compete, but when it was started by Chicanada last year, the vast majority of WC teams had all-male teams, thus Chicanada decide to create the WWC to "even out the playing field". And as i've said before, CAFUNDEU, Co-Hosts of World Cup 36, got its' football RPing start in the WWC, and look at them now.

Nations Signed Up: (98)
...Audioslavia....


Guess we don't need a NEW Audioslavia, not when the original is back.. WB!!

Damn.. haven't played you since WC 28

About the Women's World Cup... (T.S. about talking about it in here.. if you don't like it, then don't read it)

Would it be less offensive to people if I called it either the "Genetically XX Persons World Cup" or "Non-Masculine Persons World Cup"?

Everyone is doing a Jesus! Can we call WC37 - the "Return of the Elders" cup as so many retired World Cuppers are back for more.

On a sad note, Nedalia is still missing!

About the Women's World Cup... (T.S. about talking about it in here.. if you don't like it, then don't read it)

Would it be less offensive to people if I called it either the "Genetically XX Persons World Cup" or "Non-Masculine Persons World Cup"?

Yes, I would. "World Cup" implies that the participants are inferior to participants in the real World Cup. Call it the Florence Nightingale Cup or something like that, please."

One.. to SelAppa on the BoF: It has been interesting and you have done a good job.

two: Arch's last post is the reason why there should be a Women's World Cup, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORLD CUP ITSELF!

It's like the Under-21 Cup, CoH, and BoF. The WWC is basically practice for the World Cup itself, with no KPB strings attached. It's totally optional, and you don't have to compete, but when it was started by Chicanada last year, the vast majority of WC teams had all-male teams, thus Chicanada decide to create the WWC to "even out the playing field". And as i've said before, CAFUNDEU, Co-Hosts of World Cup 36, got its' football RPing start in the WWC, and look at them now.
It is NOT like the U21, CoH, or BoF. Because those competitions do NOT discriminate against anyone. The WWC does. Plus, please give us the proof that the 'vast' majority of WC teams have all-male teams. You might like to note that the 'vast' majority of World Cup champions have had women in them. Women have figured prominently in the World Cup for its ENTIRE HISTORY. In fact, please point out the last World Cup champion that was all-male. Because frankly, I don't ever recall any such team.

If you want to run the competition, you might like to start be removing the 'World Cup' in its name.

On a less political level, but more techical...

...Þ is a Norse character, which represents a hard "th" sound, as in thin...

In linguistics the terms "hard" and "soft" are not used to describe the differences you are demonstrating here. The terms should be "unvoiced" and "voiced".

The "th" in the English word "thin" is unvoiced. Try pronouncing the "th" in this word on its own: it is a whisper - your voice-box is not being used.

Now try the "th" in the English word "then": you will notice the difference very quickly - your voice-box is being used.

I'm not aware of any modern English Word where the meaning of a word changes with a change in the voicing of "th" so the two sounds would be described as phones, not phonemes.

In old English there was a separate symbol for the voiced version which looked a little like the letter "Y". Hence the modern rendition of "Ye Olde Englishe". In Old English "Ye" was still pronounced "the".

Herewith endeth the lesson.

On a less political level, but more techical...



In linguistics the terms "hard" and "soft" are not used to describe the differences you are demonstrating here. The terms should be "unvoiced" and "voiced".

The "th" in the English word "thin" is unvoiced. Try pronouncing the "th" in this word on its own: it is a whisper - your voice-box is not being used.

Now try the "th" in the English word "then": you will notice the difference very quickly - your voice-box is being used.

I'm not aware of any modern English Word where the meaning of a word changes with a change in the voicing of "th" so the two sounds would be described as phones, not phonemes.

In old English there was a separate symbol for the voiced version which looked a little like the letter "Y". Hence the modern rendition of "Ye Olde Englishe". In Old English "Ye" was still pronounced "the".

Herewith endeth the lesson.
<3 Linguistics.

In English, the difference between ð and þ is phonetic, not phonemic.

Except that the BoF and CoH are actually events run and controlled by the WCC, headed by moi.

The U21 and WWC don't have any link apart from the nations in them might be similiar as well as some reference to the KPB System.
Plus the fact the U21 USED to be part of the World Cup system.

One.. to SelAppa on the BoF: It has been interesting and you have done a good job.

two: Arch's last post is the reason why there should be a Women's World Cup, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORLD CUP ITSELF!

It's like the Under-21 Cup, CoH, and BoF. The WWC is basically practice for the World Cup itself, with no KPB strings attached. It's totally optional, and you don't have to compete, but when it was started by Chicanada last year, the vast majority of WC teams had all-male teams, thus Chicanada decide to create the WWC to "even out the playing field". And as i've said before, CAFUNDEU, Co-Hosts of World Cup 36, got its' football RPing start in the WWC, and look at them now.

Except that the BoF and CoH are actually events run and controlled by the WCC, headed by moi.

The U21 and WWC don't have any link apart from the nations in them might be similiar as well as some reference to the KPB System.

Plus the fact the U21 USED to be part of the World Cup system.

The Inaugural Di Bradini U21 World Cup doesn't have any link, there may have used to have been a u21 World Cup ran and controlled by the WCC but no more and not for 10 or more World Cups. So yes, I think we can put the U21 as part of the WCC to rest :p

What I said was:



I think we are in agreement.
We are. Just putting it more concisely.

<3 Linguistics.

In English, the difference between ð and þ is phonetic, not phonemic.

What I said was:

...I'm not aware of any modern English Word where the meaning of a word changes with a change in the voicing of "th" so the two sounds would be described as phones, not phonemes...

I think we are in agreement.

What makes someone Errinundrian? I don't know. Are other nations happy if I roleplay that one or more of our players are refugees from their right-wing capitalist hellholes?

Sure, after not playing from WC35 onwards, I'm sure there are Starblaydi players in their mid-twenties to thirties who never got a chance to play, so are out there wanting to play for other teams, whether by heritage or qualifying for citizenship in some other way.

Of course not every Starblaydi is a tyranny-supporting capitalist, so if anyone wants players who bailed from Starblaydia in their squads (we used to be fairly good, you know ;) ), feel free to add them into your rosters.

About the Women's World Cup... (T.S. about talking about it in here.. if you don't like it, then don't read it)

Would it be less offensive to people if I called it either the "Genetically XX Persons World Cup" or "Non-Masculine Persons World Cup"?

Qaz,

The problem isn't that you want to run an IC football tournament for women. The problem is that you persist on discussing said tournament in this thread.

While we all go off topic from time to time (and, by the way, the 'hard' vs. 'soft' consonant distinction does have grammatical relevance to modern Icelandic quite apart from the separate topic of English phonetics), this thread is largely for WCC-sanctioned events.

Unlike the CoH and the BoF, the Qazox-run WWC is not a WCC-sanctioned event. Unlike the U-21 World Cup, it has never been a WCC-sanctioned event. And on current form, it never will be a WCC-sanctioned event.

By continuing to discuss your own entirely separate tournament in this thread in the terms under which you choose to do so, you seem to be attempting to create the false and misleading impression that your tournament is in some way tangentially connected to the NS World Cup in roughly the same manner as the CoH, the BoF (and, previously, the old U-21). You know as well as the rest of us that this simply isn't the case.

No one can stop you from running your own sporting tournament with its own rules and regulations, but this isn't the place to discuss it anymore. Start your own 'Qazox Women's World Cup Discussion Thread' if you have to discuss it somewhere. But please... not here. Your discussions of the WWC here are getting dangerously close to spamming.

And if you can't generate enough traffic in a ''Qazox Women's World Cup Discussion Thread', well... maybe you should pause and think about what that means.

That raises an intriguing question for Errinundera. We have no border controls whatsoever and no passports. People may come and go as they please. What makes someone Errinundrian? I don't know.


That raises another question, though: How do Errinundrians travel abroad without passports? They'd need some proof of Errinundrian nationality to enter Ariddia, for example.

Actually - can you do me a favour? Look in NSWIKI for "The Dallas Clan", I'll use the Wymgani names of the Dallas clan if you can create them for me.

They actually wouldn't have Wymgani names, unless they're Wymgani (and even then, not every Wymagni has a Wymgani name these days). A majority of Ariddians aren't Wymgani.

They actually wouldn't have Wymgani names, unless they're Wymgani (and even then, not every Wymagni has a Wymgani name these days). A majority of Ariddians aren't Wymgani.

That's alright, I was just curious!

That raises another question, though: How do Errinundrians travel abroad without passports? They'd need some proof of Errinundrian nationality to enter Ariddia, for example.
I think Errinuderra will have to rethink that one... I know they had passports last time they came to Spaam ;)

I think Errinuderra will have to rethink that one... I know they had passports last time they came to Spaam ;)

How seriously would anyone treat an Errinundrian passport anyway?

How seriously would anyone treat an Errinundrian passport anyway?
Even though there are no border controls, I assume the Errinundrian 'government' would take seriously any passport application, with making sure the applicant proved their contribution to the community, being able to name their neighbourhood trees, etc. The Spaamanian government, having a good relation with the Errinundrian government, would trust Errinundrian passports. I guess there may be problems with other nations, however.

How seriously would anyone treat an Errinundrian passport anyway?

The Ariddian border officials just want something they can stamp for procedure. ;)

More seriously, they don't want people claiming to be Errinundrians and getting away with it because there's no way to prove Errinundrian nationality.

Practicalities obviously dictates the need for passports.

Errinundera is completely open to immigrants. This implies that getting an Errinundrian passport would be relatively easy for anybody regardless of their origins.

Perhaps Errinundera is not only a safe haven for political refugees but also for criminals. That's not an RP I'm particularly inclined to explore. Maybe I just have to accept it as a likely consequence of Errinundrian generosity.

It is NOT like the U21, CoH, or BoF. Because those competitions do NOT discriminate against anyone.

(LOL) The U-21 cup discriminates against 30 year olds.

(LOL) The U-21 cup discriminates against 30 year olds.

I was wondering when this would be brought up. I must admit it gives credence to your argument that it's the word "women's" that upsets people. Irrespective of that, Errinundera has a policy of not entering any competition other than the World Cup.

I repeat an earlier suggestion: why not give it a name that doesn't offend, such as the Germaine Greer Cup or Simone de Beauvoir Trophy? (They might offend for other reasons.)

Simone de Beauvoir that harlot!

I shall declare open war upon any nation with any notion of having a tournament under that harlot's name!

why not give it a name that doesn't offend, such as the Germaine Greer Cup

I think the main person to be offended by that would be Germaine herself :D

I think the main person to be offended by that would be Germaine herself :D

Yes, she does seem to be easily affronted.

Sel, I'm not saying you shouldn't express an opinion on the WWC, but I'll post a gentle reminder of my strong advice to try and keep your posts fairly restrained while you're hosting the BoF.

You'll be off the leash again soon enough...

And remember, the WWC has no WCC affiliation, so there's absolutely nothing stopping you from ignoring Qaz completely and putting women on your team regardless of the existence of the WWC.
I see your point, but it could be construed as a simply political advertisement.

Everyone is doing a Jesus! Can we call WC37 - the "Return of the Elders" cup as so many retired World Cuppers are back for more.
What about Star...?

<3 Linguistics.

Yep! I might actually take Linguistics in college. :)

Of course it's the idea of having a women's world cup that makes the Women's World Cup annoying. Having a cup that implies women are inferior in a world where they aren't is offensive. The U21 at least serves some purpose in that those would theoretically be development players. I know at least my squad doesn't use any of the U21 players who are on my main team, and certainly wouldn't use any of the ones who would be starters. But I'd have no problem with it being open to all developmental players, even if they're over 21. Regardless, it doesn't endorse sexism the way the women's world cup does.

Plus, I think we all just got sick of having it brought up so freaking often.

Of course it's the idea of having a women's world cup that makes the Women's World Cup annoying. Having a cup that implies women are inferior in a world where they aren't is offensive.

Or not. After all, In Yafor 2, the regular World Cup is a Men's World Cup - thus, not having a Women's World Cup is sexist, not the reverse.

(LOL) The U-21 cup discriminates against 30 year olds.
I was wondering when you'd bring up that fallacious argument. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't. You see (barring death), EVERYONE can participate in an U21 event at some point in time. Thirty year olds can participate in an U21 event, just not when they're 30. However, short of getting a sex change, and as seen in RL, not even then, NOT EVERYONE can participate in a women's event. Sorry, but no dice.

Gupta: Actually, Yafor 2 is the sexist one, for not allowing women to play. Yafor 2 women can play, just not for Yafor 2, at least until they renege their backwards ways ;)

Of course it's the idea of having a women's world cup that makes the Women's World Cup annoying. Having a cup that implies women are inferior in a world where they aren't is offensive. The U21 at least serves some purpose in that those would theoretically be development players. I know at least my squad doesn't use any of the U21 players who are on my main team, and certainly wouldn't use any of the ones who would be starters. But I'd have no problem with it being open to all developmental players, even if they're over 21. Regardless, it doesn't endorse sexism the way the women's world cup does.

Plus, I think we all just got sick of having it brought up so freaking often.

This brings up the idea that U21 could be an alternative to the BoF...

The U-21 is seperate from the WC, has been for a while and should not replace the BoF, why should it?

The U-21 is seperate from the WC, has been for a while and should not replace the BoF, why should it?

As a practice cup. It could be an alternative that the host(s) want to use instead of a regular BoF. It'd really only be an IC difference.

Maybe I'm just an idiot...

As a practice cup. It could be an alternative that the host(s) want to use instead of a regular BoF. It'd really only be an IC difference.

Maybe I'm just an idiot...

If I'm interpreting you correctly, Sel, what you're suggesting is that a BoF host could choose to have an individual BoF conceptualised as an U-21 tournament. You're not suggesting that the BoF become an U-21 tournament as a matter of course.

Which strikes me as perfectly fine in the absence of an official U-21 tournament if that's what individual BoF hosts want to do.

So no, you're not an idiot ;)

I think we should have a Monastic World Cup.

Orthodox Monks don't have an adequate outlet for their footballing skills as there's only one team in the entire Nationstates World Cup with Orthodox Monks. This is atheistic discrimination.

I plan on holding the first 15 editions between now and the start of World Cup 37, and will mention it in this thread in almost every single post despite the lack of any affiliation between the MWC and World Cup Committee-sanctioned events (which won't stop me from frequently implying that it's just like the BoF and the CoH, mind).


I also think that we should hold additional separate unofficial world cups for other groups under-represented in the official World Cup, including - but not necessarily limited to - robots, genderqueer, college students, vikings, mice, composite aliens, gnomes, barbarians, and the most under-represented group of all: white male professional footballers between the ages of 21 and 35.

Only by holding lots and lots and lots of separate special interest World Cups can we have fairness for everyone!

Hey, just thought I'd gratuitously bring up the Monastic World Cup again!

Do you think there's any chance it could become an official WCC-sanctioned tournament?

Oh, please say yes.

Say, did I mention the Monastic World Cup yet?

See, this isn't really, really, irritating at all, is it? I can just mention the Monastic World Cup over and over and over again, and no one will ever get sick and tired of it.



[last post, promise, and point hopefully made]

You know you can't stop posting. I officially declare you Jolt-addicted :p

You know you can't stop posting. I officially declare you Jolt-addicted :p

I deny that! Err, I posted a reply ... :eek:

Say, I'd like to have a Monastic World Cup and the WCC should sponsor it! Why? Who cares? It's football! (if you can't take sarcasm, I'm going to take a rake and ram chunks of sarcasm down your throat until it finally comes out the other end).