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I won't be in world cup 45. Good day.

(I should have done this a long time ago)

That's a shame, as you were 58th in the World and climbing, too. Sorry to see you go.

That's a shame, as you were 58th in the World and climbing, too. Sorry to see you go.

Its real life issues (curses the boys next door). I might just sign up for the next world cup for the heck of it. ;)

58th in the world, don't your rankings tumble after not qualifying?

Its real life issues (curses the boys next door). I might just sign up for the next world cup for the heck of it. ;)

58th in the world, don't your rankings tumble after not qualifying?

Not from 58th, no. This is only your 3rd Cup (iirc, you stared in WC42?) and the KPBs take into account the last three Cups - your only way is up after the WC44 Qualifiers are taken into account, probably into the 40s or perhaps bottom end of the 30s.

Plus there's the Cup of Harmony for the non-qualifying, roleplaying teams that gives you another crack at winning some KPB points for another boost.

Not from 58th, no. This is only your 3rd Cup (iirc, you stared in WC42?) and the KPBs take into account the last three Cups - your only way is up after the WC44 Qualifiers are taken into account, probably into the 40s or perhaps bottom end of the 30s.

Plus there's the Cup of Harmony for the non-qualifying, roleplaying teams that gives you another crack at winning some KPB points for another boost.

*freaks out a bit*. I'll RP in CoH36, thats for sure, as for the next world cup, it depends on time I have.

Isn't the point boost normal, starts to slow after the first few world cups?

I think I jinxed my team by saying the other day how cool being ranked in the 80's is, heh. Not so cool now! :D

Its real life issues (curses the boys next door). I might just sign up for the next world cup for the heck of it. ;)

58th in the world, don't your rankings tumble after not qualifying?

It took 7 cups for Jeruselem and Jeru FC to qualify! So you're doing well!
Dropping out makes your ranking worse anyway.

Oh, damn Kenavt for kicking Jeru FC back into 4th.

I still want to host the next CoH, although no one showed interest in co-hosting with me. If someone wants to host the next CoH too, contact me.

I still want to host the next CoH, although no one showed interest in co-hosting with me. If someone wants to host the next CoH too, contact me.

Why not just host it yourself?

I prefer to not host alone. I'd host without a co-host only if I didn't have another option (which seems that is going to happen).

*freaks out a bit*. I'll RP in CoH36, thats for sure, as for the next world cup, it depends on time I have.

Isn't the point boost normal, starts to slow after the first few world cups?

The World Cup rankings take the last 3 World Cups into account... what's basically taken into account is points won/games played. If you're constantly improving that ratio then you're ranking will improve. I'd wager once you get into the 30's or 40's of ranks... then you'd have quite a reasonable chance of qualifying.

Hosty Announcey Things

Just to say…

1. The MD14 cut-off will be delayed slightly today from the usual (alright, theoretical) time of 1700 UTC, but most likely only by fifteen or twenty minutes.

2. The following post-qualifying friendlies are confirmed, and it’s the usual drill when it comes to any others outstanding;

Sorthern Northland v Taeshan
Nethertopia v Taeshan
Sarzonia v The Archregimancy (MSM)
Nethertopia v Newmanistan
Newmanistan v Brightonburg
Secristan v Cassadaigua
Valanora v Starblaydia
Dariusville v Bears Armed

Candelaria And Marquez v Ad'ihan [@ McNeil Bingo Arena, Caires]
Ad'ihan v Kura-Pelland
Kura-Pelland v Candelaria And Marquez

3. For what it’s worth, the cut-off time for the friendlies will most likely be just before 1600 UTC, on Sunday.

4. The draw for the World Cup should follow soon after on #nssport, and be posted on the RP Thread as soon as possible afterwards. Innit.

Ad’ihan-C&M-KP mini-tournament if it's all right? Otherwise Ad’ihan-Liventia-C&M? Otherwise not at all.

Whoops, forgot about that... Added. :)

I restate our desires to The Holy Empire for a friendly with our greatest nightmares. I may try a TG this time...

Excuse me, but my puppet Opereta didn't cease to exist. You probably looked for a wrong name instead (look at the bold letter in the nation name).

Well look at that. Miracles do happen. First i beat WZ, and Sarz ties. I make it in due to better h2h vs others. Then Kosovoe kills Bostopia and qualifies, wow.

The Newmanistanian history of near-misses to qualify:

World Cup 40: Advanced to playoff. Split games, lost out on away goals rule.
World Cup 41: No near miss, we sucked.
World Cup 42: Needed one win in final two games to qualify. No luck.
World Cup 43: Needed last matchday win over Dancougar. No luck.

Just when you didn't think it could any worse:
World Cup 44: Needed to win final game by more goals then Milchama won by. We win by three. They beat a quality Septentrionia side, by four.

Ughh.... and when there's finally a Cup of Harmony host, I'll take back what I said about not participating in it. We'll be there, whenever and wherever it is.

Now that draw to O Ale Ale looks more and more sickening. Ugh.

Just when you didn't think it could any worse:
World Cup 44: Needed to win final game by more goals then Milchama won by. We win by three. They beat a quality Septentrionia side, by four.

Ughh.... and when there's finally a Cup of Harmony host, I'll take back what I said about not participating in it. We'll be there, whenever and wherever it is.

Apparently, H2H would've kicked you out anyway, on away goals.

Now that draw to O Ale Ale looks more and more sickening. Ugh.

You're meant to be crap, remember? Stop thinking like ex-World and BoF champions and start from the bottom rung - you've done brilliantly :p

I think it's fair to say that this is one of the closest WCQ in recent times, with a number of first-time qualifiers coming on their first try, not to mention the number of almost qualified teams on the very last day. I'll bet the hosts ran out of analgesics trying to figure out who's in and who's not...

And commiserations to those who didn't qualify, especially to those who were rather exceptional beyond the results.

The Newmanistanian history of near-misses to qualify:

World Cup 40: Advanced to playoff. Split games, lost out on away goals rule.
World Cup 41: No near miss, we sucked.
World Cup 42: Needed one win in final two games to qualify. No luck.
World Cup 43: Needed last matchday win over Dancougar. No luck.

Just when you didn't think it could any worse:
World Cup 44: Needed to win final game by more goals then Milchama won by. We win by three. They beat a quality Septentrionia side, by four.

Ughh.... and when there's finally a Cup of Harmony host, I'll take back what I said about not participating in it. We'll be there, whenever and wherever it is.

There are some teams destined to be "almost"; hopefully, there's an "almost lost" somewhere in there someday...

I'm sure I'm going to regret asking this, but what is the approximate schedule for the Cup of Harmony?

I think they still need to sort the hosting situation for the Cup of Harmony first.

I wouldn't mind hosting the CoH. I'm online everyday. But I have no clue how to scorinate.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

CUP OF HARMONY HOSTING

First of all, apologies to all World Cup participants over the disruption caused to World Cup business by my recent travelling. I regret that the contingency plans I put in place to deal with that disruption don't seem to have worked as seamlessly as I'd hoped.

And now on to business....

I'd like to finalise Cup of Harmony host voting in the next 24 hours.

So far, two nations have expressed an interest in hosting the next Cup of Harmony.

These are Cafundeu and Greal.

Cafundeu wants a co-host, Greal needs to know how to scorinate. Forgive me for belabouring the obvious, but might I suggest a Cafundeu-Greal co-hosting bid?

If I get no confirmation of the above co-hosting bid - or any other bid - within 24 hours, I'll hold a vote on the acceptance or otherwise of a Cafundeu single-host bid, just so we can keep things moving along.

And this is an entirely non-presidential query about group tables.

A quick clarification might be helpful on how the Archregimancy went from top of the group to second in the group between match days 13 and 14. There can have been no change in head to head results between the monks and Vephrall (both matches ending in a draw), or in who had the superior goal difference (favours Vephrall). My inclination is that Veph should have been above me in both MD 13 and MD 14 tables, and that Veph has been correctly listed as winning the group - but then why list Veph below me after MD 13?

I only ask for a clarification because this would impact the Archregimancy's final qualification RP.

And this is an entirely non-presidential query about...

The Daehanjeiguk-The Holy Empire friendly to be played during post-qualifying friendlies? Who knew? :p


In an effort to answer the question directed to the hosts, I can only surmise that MD13 was a three-way-tie between The Arch, Veph, and Kry, in which the Arch held the tie-breakers over their other competitors (Kry+Veph); after Kry lost their match to Vephrall, the three-way tie was broken, thus putting Vephrall in favor over the Arch. Of course, I could be just spitting out a bunch of baloney, in which case the sandwich is on me.

I wouldn't mind hosting the CoH. I'm online everyday. But I have no clue how to scorinate.

*plays matchmaker and puts Greal into the same railway car as Cafundeu*

You know you want to :p



On a more serious note, I do have plans in hand to expand the IFL in the not-so-near future. I'd personally like to know a few things from people who review it as to its quality presently and what things they'd like to see in the near future, which may or may not determine whether this expansion continues as planned. This is my shameless plug to get you to write your opinions on the NFL thread (yes, it's still called the NFL Thread, even though it's now the IFL... funny world). The link should be in my siggy. And for those of you who can't look at siggies (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532910)...

I think Krytenia and Sarzonia are supposed to play a friendly at Sarzonia. The first friendly was to have taken place at Krytenia, so this would be a return leg of sorts.

Then there is Sarzonia's match v. The Archregimancy, location I have no idea where.

OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

CUP OF HARMONY HOSTING

First of all, apologies to all World Cup participants over the disruption caused to World Cup business by my recent travelling. I regret that the contingency plans I put in place to deal with that disruption don't seem to have worked as seamlessly as I'd hoped.

And now on to business....

I'd like to finalise Cup of Harmony host voting in the next 24 hours.

So far, two nations have expressed an interest in hosting the next Cup of Harmony.

These are Cafundeu and Greal.

Cafundeu wants a co-host, Greal needs to know how to scorinate. Forgive me for belabouring the obvious, but might I suggest a Cafundeu-Greal co-hosting bid?

If I get no confirmation of the above co-hosting bid - or any other bid - within 24 hours, I'll hold a vote on the acceptance or otherwise of a Cafundeu single-host bid, just so we can keep things moving along.

I'll go for a Canfundeu-Greal co-hosting bid if he accepts.

I restate our desires to The Holy Empire for a friendly with our greatest nightmares. I may try a TG this time...

Accepted (if it's not too late).


Then there is Sarzonia's match v. The Archregimancy, location I have no idea where.

Sarzonia. I think that was my original intention, anyway.

I regret that the contingency plans I put in place to deal with that disruption don't seem to have worked as seamlessly as I'd hoped.Sorry if I messed this up. As far as World Cup 45 signups went, I browsed recent signup threads and saw that they started any time from just after the middle of qualifiers to playoffs, so I didn't think there was any real necessity to start them early. People are going to sign up whenever the thread goes up, no? As for the Cup of Harmony, it would have been really hard to start a vote without any bids...But everything seems to be going okay now, so welcome back!

Sarzonia. I think that was my original intention, anyway.

Cool. For RP purposes, the match will take place at Bryan Marshall Memorial Stadium in Sarzonia's capital, Woodstock. It has a seating capacity of 88,920.

Liventia would like to host the CoH. This is a single bid (for now).

Also, can I ask Greal how he will (co)host the CoH if he's going to be short of RL time (as he said a few pages ago in this thread)? Wouldn't that make things very difficult?

Liventian bid details:
Best-case scenario: 16 teams in four groups of four, each team plays each other once, top two per group qualify
NSFS 2.0.7 scorinator, skill modifiers between -2 and +2
Teams having posted at least 1 RP + 1 roster (I realise this actually excludes Liventia) will receive an invite, providing they're not within ceasing-to-exist range within the duration of the CoH.
RP bonus will be HEAVY, based on quality more than quantity, but will be capped.

IC details: Liventia is under a state of emergency over the assassination of its prime minister, likely to be lifted soon. It is scheduled to host the Field Hockey World Championship (which will OOCly run concurrently with the CoH, as I don't mind, can, and have done, running two tournaments at the same time). The CoH would be based in four stadia, one in CCL, two in Orean, and one in Folenisa.

I'd like to throw my hat into the ring as a co-host for the CoH concurrent with the 44th World Cup, provided Cafundeu accepts the bid.

I've never done any soccer scorinating, but I was the sole host of World Bowl III, which had 18 teams in 3 groups and a 12 team knockout playoff stage. It was scorinated using nsfs 2.0.7 (which is the scorinator I have and am somewhat familiar with.) As far as exchanging data for RP bonuses and such, I have Open Office, but not Excel. I should be able to handle Excel files, if absolutely necessary.

If you're okay with this, just let me know the details of the plan within the next 48 hours or so...remember Monday's a holiday here, so no school but Tuesday, I'll probably be partying somewhere celebrating the Inauguration.

Liventia would like to host the CoH. This is a single bid (for now).

Also, can I ask Greal how he will (co)host the CoH if he's going to be short of RL time (as he said a few pages ago in this thread)? Wouldn't that make things very difficult?



I'll still be on every day. Whether or not I'll be posting.

You are aware the amount of work a host has to put in, I hope. Arroza, please check TGs.

The Newmanistanian history of near-misses to qualify:

World Cup 40: Advanced to playoff. Split games, lost out on away goals rule.
World Cup 41: No near miss, we sucked.
World Cup 42: Needed one win in final two games to qualify. No luck.
World Cup 43: Needed last matchday win over Dancougar. No luck.

Just when you didn't think it could any worse:
World Cup 44: Needed to win final game by more goals then Milchama won by. We win by three. They beat a quality Septentrionia side, by four.

Ughh.... and when there's finally a Cup of Harmony host, I'll take back what I said about not participating in it. We'll be there, whenever and wherever it is.

I feel you man:
WC27: missed out by 2 points on first attempt.
WC28: needed 1 point over last 2 games, got none.
WC29: lost to freaking Bostopia (and lost previous 2) as i needed only 2 points over last 3 games.
WC30 and WC32: got killed in qualifiers.
WC34: missed by a point.

You are aware the amount of work a host has to put in, I hope. Arroza, please check TGs.

It doesn't matter, he turned me down as co-host.

Excuse me, there is now a bid for the hosting rights to World Cup 45

Demot-SLANI

that is all.

Greal, I'm hosting with Dancougar because he contacted me first.

By the way, the bid is Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580079)

Liventia would like to announce a CoH bid with Arroza, with full details to be finalised. Preliminary details (from my previously-solo bid) will stand until further notice. Bid thread later today!

Jeru FC just stuck it's head over the line by a nose over Kenavt ... talk about a last game drama. I was expecting Kenavt to win it's game actually.

Dang, just realised I've qualified for TEN consecutive World Cups!
I know its not the longest streak, but making TEN consecutive World Cups is impressive nonetheless.

Yay! Qualification, cool times.

BTW, congrats to all the 1st time qualifiers.
and here's hoping somehow they all wind up in my group!

Just curious, does qualifying boost rankings? Like, chances are I will lose all my three pool games. Will that mean my ranking goes down?

Dang, just realised I've qualified for TEN consecutive World Cups!

And you've played shite in every one of em :p

Just curious, does qualifying boost rankings? Like, chances are I will lose all my three pool games. Will that mean my ranking goes down?

Yes... you get all the ranking points from your group points tally (which is far more than most teams of your rank) as well as a Qualifying bonus. Rankings don't go down, specifically, when you lose matches, as you get points for winning, it's just that everyone else who wins gets more points than you and may overtake you in the rankings.

Though as there are very few nations in your situation, you should rocket up the table.

Yay! Qualification, cool times.
Ditto. :D

How often before have the winning & second-placed team from the BoF both made it into the Cup?

A quick wiki-browse suggests that this is the second time such a feat has occurred, the first being in World Cup 26 with the qualification of The Islands of Qutar and The Kazoo Peoples. Congratulations to you both!

If I had to guess, you'll probably be somewhere in the 40s.

The post-qualifying ranks are being worked on right now, and they will be used for WC44 proper including being the basis of the draw.

Cup of Harmony host voting is now open.


Go here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14412492&postcount=72) for details.

Note that I've set a tight 48 hour deadline for voting as WC qualification has already finished.

CUP OF HARMONY VOTINGBecause World Cup qualification is now over, I'm setting a fairly tight 48 hour deadline: votes are due by 18:00 (6:00 PM) Greenwich Mean Time on Tuesday the 20th of November - try not to let Obama's inauguration distract you from voting.

Um, you may want to amend that date slightly. Obama's inauguration takes place on 20th January.

He's probably just a little bit excited, bless 'im.

Excited about the inauguration of the American president?

Or the CoH vote (either the length of the vote or the fact it's actually a contest) or that The Archregimancy is playing Starblaydia in the Finals.

Or... something random, who knows?

Oh goodie, new rankings. We* really hope we move up a bid :D

We as in the three of us, I'm schitzophrenic.

Me too, by the way.

Um, you may want to amend that date slightly. Obama's inauguration takes place on 20th January.

Done.

That's what I get for cutting and pasting the previous CoH vote message (sigh).


And of course I'm excited. The United States has kindly decided to replace their IMHO third-worst president ever (James Buchanen and Warren G. Harding, in case you're curious) two days before my fortieth birthday. I couldn't ask for a better birthday present.

I bet the voters of the United States did it just for me.

an FYI to il presidente:

There was an error concerning TGs to the Archregimancy, so I sent a TG to AFrosticus.

How often before have the winning & second-placed team from the BoF both made it into the Cup?

Umm, in my recollection, the winners of the BoF don't usually qualify on their first qualifying try. Just ask any of them.
And then there are the random few who don't RP at all and still qualify...

Oh goodie, new rankings. We* really hope we move up a bid :D

We as in the three of us, I'm schitzophrenic.

Me too, by the way.

Me three. I'd be curious to see how things turned out...

an FYI to il presidente:

There was an error concerning TGs to the Archregimancy, so I sent a TG to AFrosticus.


I've just checked the Archregimancy in-box, and whatever problem Han was facing was hopefully temporary - there's plenty of space in my in-box, and several new TGs.

Maybe I'll host the BoF. ;)

Group A looks nice ... :eek2:

A n00b, nightmares, whores, and scorned elves. Lovely indeed.

A n00b, nightmares, whores, and scorned elves. Lovely indeed.

*scratches head over who could be the "scorned elves" - oh well...*

And you've played shite in every one of em :p


Not true... I did at least make a Quarterfinal, the Cup you last made a Final!

Done.

That's what I get for cutting and pasting the previous CoH vote message (sigh).


And of course I'm excited. The United States has kindly decided to replace their IMHO third-worst president ever (James Buchanen and Warren G. Harding, in case you're curious) two days before my fortieth birthday. I couldn't ask for a better birthday present.

I bet the voters of the United States did it just for me.

Ford, Grant, Garfield, J.Q. Adams and both Harrisons, along with the two you previously mentioned were worse than Dubya. So GW Bush is the 9th worst president.

...and here's hoping somehow they all wind up in my group!

And thank you to Margaret for waking up from your LSD-induced haze just long enough to read that post.

And thank you to Margaret for waking up from your LSD-induced haze just long enough to read that post.

I see you aren't predicting Godzilla to win ... I mean Valanora.

I see you aren't predicting Godzilla to win ... I mean Valanora.

I just don't think Margaret will allow a 3-peat.

Yes... you get all the ranking points from your group points tally (which is far more than most teams of your rank) as well as a Qualifying bonus. Rankings don't go down, specifically, when you lose matches, as you get points for winning, it's just that everyone else who wins gets more points than you and may overtake you in the rankings.

Though as there are very few nations in your situation, you should rocket up the table.

Oh I getcha, coolness.
Ditto. :D

How often before have the winning & second-placed team from the BoF both made it into the Cup?

Heh, we did quite well Bears. *high-five*

A n00b, nightmares, whores, and scorned elves. Lovely indeed.

A n00b?! Oh man. I thought I was an xprt. Pr0n rox, and stuff like that.

A n00b?! Oh man. I thought I was an xprt. Pr0n rox, and stuff like that.

LOLZ, you're new to the World Cup finals. It's a tough and rough place :p
pr0n rox?

LOLZ, you're new to the World Cup finals. It's a tough and rough place :p
pr0n rox?

Heh, I know, I have no illusions about it!

Omgz, pr0n=win!

pr0n = porn, for some reason.

Heh, I know, I have no illusions about it!

Omgz, pr0n=win!

pr0n = porn, for some reason.

Well, Jeruselem happens to have to most porn stars in it's team!

It seems that both Han and Kry have been having problems TG'ing me. During the same period that they've been having problems, other nations have safely TG'd the Archregimancy.

Given the nature of the problem, I've posted a message on 'technical' to see if the issue is widespread or specific to myself.

In the meantime, keep them votes coming!

EDIT

It seems that I had accidentally added Han, Kry and Veph to my ignore list.

No idea how I managed to do that; I didn't even know I had an ignore list.

But it's all dealt with now. I'm not subconsciously ignoring anyone any more.

New rankings are now available.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.ods)
XLS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.pdf)

It seems that I had accidentally added Han, Kry and Veph to my ignore list.

Is it cos I is not Orthodox? ;)

New rankings are now available.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.ods)
XLS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.pdf)

Perhaps I'm being dense, but I don't see Rymeria in the post-qual rankings at all.

I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Sarzonia vault from the unranked to No. 62 after qualifying. I expected no better than the 90s and would have thought the upper 70s to be optimistic.

EDIT

It seems that I had accidentally added Han, Kry and Veph to my ignore list.

No idea how I managed to do that; I didn't even know I had an ignore list.

But it's all dealt with now. I'm not subconsciously ignoring anyone any more.

Is it cos I is not Orthodox? ;)

I'm guessing he got tired of my TGs... even though I hadn't been sending any TGs to him...

But in any case, who wouldn't want to block me? ;) I'd block myself too.


<<< EDIT >>>

*hopes that the hosts will use post-qualifying ranks*

>>>This makes first-time qualifying almost impossible but allows active RPers to make an impact right away (allowing a realistic qualification shot next time around especially with a good CoH run in between), and also means that RPing will have a significant impact across the rankings.<<<

Just re-read that from the host-bid thread. I think that they understated that "almost impossible" by a little bit.

New rankings are now available.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.ods)
XLS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.pdf)

Perhaps I'm being dense, but I don't see Rymeria in the post-qual rankings at all.

I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Sarzonia vault from the unranked to No. 62 after qualifying. I expected no better than the 90s and would have thought the upper 70s to be optimistic.

Aye, It seems to me that there's something wrong with these rankings as well. How is it possible that unranked Bactrian Camels, unranked and getting 7 points, toppling Dariusville (which is coincidentally my puppet), who had 3.84 points before the qualifiers and are currently on 1.95 points?

I know that there might be a logical explanation for this, but it seems rather odd, this happening.



Also, Nethertopia in top 50 now :D

Hmm.

Okay, I guess I need to re-check these. I wasn't the one that actually performed the update, and I basically just took it on faith that these were correct.

>>>This makes first-time qualifying almost impossible but allows active RPers to make an impact right away (allowing a realistic qualification shot next time around especially with a good CoH run in between), and also means that RPing will have a significant impact across the rankings.<<<

Just re-read that from the host-bid thread. I think that they understated that "almost impossible" by a little bit.

To be fair, it said "almost" impossible, not "absolutely impossible." Some nations have qualified in their first go, even with the ranks now well established. That's why the sentence reads the way it does. It allows for the occasionally random events that happen every once in a while when you deal with computer formulae.

New rankings are now available.

ODS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.ods)
XLS (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.xls)
PDF (http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/ns/WC44 Post-Qual Rankings.pdf)

44th? :eek: I'm scared of myself. Thats a huge leap.

FIFA 44th = Slovakia.

44th? :eek: I'm scared of myself. Thats a huge leap.

FIFA 44th = Slovakia.

See don't give up, but it gets hard to go up when you hit the top 40 area.

I see that the error of the new rankings is that the points won by some nations during this qualifying weren't put in the new rankings.

This happened with Rymeria, Dariusville, Chutnusak, Opereta, Alversia, O Ale Ale, Solenial and Idanno.

Well, here is the ODS file of the rankings with this error corrected. For me the rankings seem correct now, although I just changed the mistake I noticed and can't guarantee that there aren't others (but as all the points of this qualifying, excluding the countries noted above, were correct, I assume there aren't more errors): Here is the link! (http://www.savefile.com/files/1973381)

any chance for a written copy?

BTW: Qazox::Nigeria::Portugal (FIFA/Elo respectively)

Well, here is the written copy but, as I don't have much time available now (mostly because this time was consumed by the RP I just wrote), I didn't make a "beautiful written copy" (more organized, I mean) like I usually do:

1 Valanora 61,69
2 Demot 47,45
3 Dancougar 42,57
4 Bostopia 40,30
5 Cafundéu 38,00
6 Starblaydia 36,50
7 Vephrall 36,37
8 Daehanjeiguk 36,05
9 Capitalizt SLANI 35,55
10 The Archregimancy 34,54
11 Yafor 2 34,29
12 Jeruselem 34,19
13 Tynelia 33,87
14 Ad’ihan 33,86
15 Lovisa 31,68
16 Milchama 31,58
17 Qazox 30,73
18 Wentland 30,55
19 The Holy Empire 28,54
20 Kura-Pelland 28,27
21 Sorthern Northland 26,18
22 Candelaria And Marquez 25,17
23 Bazalonia 24,67
24 Jasīʼyūn 23,83
25 Jeru FC 22,42
26 Prux 21,20
27 Septentrionia 20,78
28 Krytenia 20,63
29 Yafalonia and Bazor 2 20,37
30 Terreiro de Ogum 19,09
31 Rennidan 19,01
32 Newmanistan 16,00
33 Taeshan 15,94
34 Az-cz 15,83
35 Zwangzug 15,39
36 Kelssek 14,37
37 Blouman Empire 14,15
38 Green wombat 13,73
39 West Zirconia 12,44
40 Kosovoe 11,71
41 Quakmybush 11,58
42 Kenavt 11,03
43 Urna Eletrônica 10,74
44 Greal 10,42
45 Cassadaigua 9,37
46 Bears Armed 9,20
46 Peisandros 9,20
48 Magna Sancta Sedes 9,02
49 Arroza 8,82
50 Nethertopia 8,67
51 Secristan 8,64
52 The Bostopian Empire 8,31
53 Koseli Cumhuriyetler 8,05
54 Miroxia 7,60
55 Akbarabad 6,88
56 Universitus University 6,86
57 Liventia 6,40
58 Colbourne 6,31
59 Myedvedeya 6,08
60 Chutnusak 5,86
61 Dariusville 5,67
62 The Macabees 5,52
63 Sarzonia 5,43
64 Bettia 5,39
65 IseeRussiafrommyhouse 5,24
66 KaMaRi 5,21
67 An Blascaod Mor 5,01
68 Syktyvkar 4,70
69 Land de Wood 4,57
70 Googlewoop 4,44
70 Idanno 4,44
72 Quintessence of Dust 4,00
73 Sel Appa 3,99
74 Kjomasasopia 3,74
75 Euro Federations 3,71
76 Lecland 3,63
77 Opereta 3,41
78 Glaycia 3,40
79 AruthKandageLand 3,32
80 Solenial 3,31
81 Brightonburg 3,14
82 Bushdome 2,93
83 East Pocono 2,86
84 Alversia 2,78
85 Kereca 2,63
86 Viltek 2,40
87 St Samuel 2,29
87 Rymeria 2,29
89 Northern Bettia 2,27
90 Cokenia 2,08
91 Bactrian Camels 2,00
91 O Ale Ale 2,00
93 Linpada 1,99
94 Vlaskin 1,98
95 Valetaland 1,95
96 Nire and Nire 1,75
97 Oiseaui 1,71
97 Squornshelous 1,71
97 Draistania 1,71
100 Tortuga y Hispaniola 1,66
101 Thoughts of Randomness 1,65
102 Acapais 1,63
103 Magnus Valerius 1,57
104 The Islands of Qutar 1,43
104 Casari 1,43
106 Kiryu-shi 1,33
107 Deceased Writers Guild 1,17
108 Saturday Sport 1,14
108 Swilatia 1,14
110 Senatus Populusque II 1,00
110 Australiah 1,00
112 Kanji Starter 0,92
112 New Zomboria 0,92
114 Onimar 0,86
115 Cypron 0,83
116 East Ying 0,75
116 Spazican States 0,75
118 Panuul 0,71
119 Icy Cold Death Touch 0,67
119 Legalese 0,67
121 Cauci 0,58
121 Ron Paulovia 0,58
123 We Hate Football 0,50
123 Roddyville 0,50
125 United Island Empires 0,43
126 Tanah Tinggi 0,38
127 Wijaska Island 0,33
127 Europa Brittania 0,33
129 Mantwenic 0,31
130 Ma Raque 0,29
130 Orion Star Empire 0,29
132 Seventy Ninth Entrant 0,29
132 Alex Ruined Hallelujah 0,29
134 Benelsdon 0,25
134 Ixania 0,25
134 Maimeiras 0,25
137 Jariss 0,17
138 Maestro L Pavarotti 0,13
138 Dennisov 0,13
140 Vonks 0,08
140 Montgisard 0,08
140 Kannone 0,08
143 Docky -16,13
144 Deep South Sopia -16,96
145 The Doobie Brothers -18,86

In case anyone is interested or actually cares, I have an announcement about Sarzonian participation in future sporting competitions.

No, I'm not dropping out. I can hear the disappointment now. I'm just announcing that for all future team sports competitions, the Sarzonian national team shall be known as the Stars. Football, gridball, basketball, lacrosse, whatever the sport is, the team will be called the Stars and will adopt essentially the same logo.

In case anyone is interested or actually cares, I have an announcement about Sarzonian participation in future sporting competitions.

No, I'm not dropping out. I can hear the disappointment now. I'm just announcing that for all future team sports competitions, the Sarzonian national team shall be known as the Stars. Football, gridball, basketball, lacrosse, whatever the sport is, the team will be called the Stars and will adopt essentially the same logo.

They haven't always been? :confused:
Thanks for clearing it, as most of the time, mentally I've seen stars when I think of Sarzonia, but unless you specifically stated so, I haven't used it.

and thanks Caf for the written version.

They haven't always been? :confused:
Thanks for clearing it, as most of the time, mentally I've seen stars when I think of Sarzonia, but unless you specifically stated so, I haven't used it.

Only the football team has been called the Stars. Well, the Under 21s have been called the Junior Stars. If Sarzonia participates in the DiBradini Cup, I'll still use Junior Stars. Other teams have had unique names (like the Slash in lacrosse or the Stingers in gridball). Those teams will now also be called the Stars.

Only the football team has been called the Stars. Well, the Under 21s have been called the Junior Stars. If Sarzonia participates in the DiBradini Cup, I'll still use Junior Stars. Other teams have had unique names (like the Slash in lacrosse or the Stingers in gridball). Those teams will now also be called the Stars.

If they win a cup, then they will be called SuperStars? :)

If they win a cup, then they will be called SuperStars? :)

Maybe if they go on a run like Valanora's. ;)

46th, Iran.

Hmm.

Luck, it was all luck

Luck, it was all luck

Nah, luck is an unranked side playing to a 3:3 draw against the world's number one ranked team after playing the same side to a 2:2 draw at home.

There's more than luck involved. Perhaps Margaret gets turned on by elvish ears? ;)

There's more than luck involved. Perhaps Margaret gets turned on by elvish ears? ;)

Based on the Vanorian and Starblaydi qualifying campaigns?

I think not.

popping back in again. i'm not really able to get motivated to RP for these things anymore so this might be my last cup unless i decide to sign up just to stay active on the off chance my batteries get recharged and i can get into this again. we'll see.

Hey, I moved up 4 spots! At this rate I'll be a serious contender for World Cup 57.

49th:Arroza:Wales (ELO):Colombia (Fifa)

Man, I was one spot away from being Jamaica...:(
I'll take Colombia though. Some of the hottest women ever, and cocaine.

Ranked 53 means I am Saudi Arabia... why do Turkey have to be sooooo high in the rankings :(

Is it just me, or - on the evidence of the MD1 scores - does the foul heathen Margaret actively persecute the Orthodox?

Anyway, you probably want to know the...

CUP OF HARMONY VOTING RESULTS

Cafundeu & Dancougar: 6

Liventia & Arozza: 2

(your president abstained, as is his usual practice)


Congratulations to the winners, commiserations to the losers, and best wishes to Barack Obama, 43rd* president of the United States.


* I refuse to count Grover Cleveland twice.

popping back in again. i'm not really able to get motivated to RP for these things anymore so this might be my last cup unless i decide to sign up just to stay active on the off chance my batteries get recharged and i can get into this again. we'll see.

I'd love to see you motivated to RP again. I really enjoyed your RPs when you first started.

Yay, more hostination! Which I'll have lots of time to do once I pull a Portugal and flame out of the WC.

I mean, uh, way to go Bears ^_^ That's totally what I meant to say.

Contrary to popular belief, nations in the Cup of Harmony will NOT get extra RP points by mentioning giant robots in their RPs. Unless it's totally hardcore and I squeal like a fangirl.

Yay Caf nd Dan!

Yay Demot!

Yay being the opening game and putting on a show!

Poor n00b got smooshed :(

and Yay no more Bush!

and bah to having to head back to class!

Final score from Hatire Memorial (60,0000 sell out)

That's quite a sell-out crowd...

That's quite a sell-out crowd...

More than half Sarzonia's (RP'd) population!

That's quite a sell-out crowd...

I think you need to take the space shuttle to get to the upper tier.

D'oh.

I think you need to take the space shuttle to get to the upper tier.

Only to realize your view of the field is still obscured by a support beam.

Which turns out to be THE DWARVES' SPACE ELEVATOR.

Did someone mess up with Kosovoe so,mewhere? I/they beat the Archregimancy 3-1. Um weel id just like whoever tdid that score to reacheck the formula.(seriously how impossible is that score for a team who hasnt rped , just made its first cup, and is playing some of the best) anyways back to reg.

Only to realize your view of the field is still obscured by a support beam.

Which turns out to be THE DWARVES' SPACE ELEVATOR.

I'd be more boggled by the noise from the construction crew than the blocking of the view; at least they'll have a wide-screen available...
wait, you mean?... there's no?... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!...

Did someone mess up with Kosovoe so,mewhere? I/they beat the Archregimancy 3-1. Um weel id just like whoever tdid that score to reacheck the formula.(seriously how impossible is that score for a team who hasnt rped , just made its first cup, and is playing some of the best) anyways back to reg.

I think the formula is broken in the following circumstances:

(1) A low-ranking team PWNZ a high-ranking team;
(2) A high-ranking team DESTROYS! a low-ranking team;
(3) A mid-level team DRAWS! another mid-ranking team;
(4) Any of the above situations does not occur.

I'd be more boggled by the noise from the construction crew than the blocking of the view; at least they'll have a wide-screen available...
wait, you mean?... there's no?... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!...

*pats on shoulders*

At least we're all seing nothing from this range. Anyone in for a game of Poker, while we're here already?

*pats on shoulders*

At least we're all seing nothing from this range. Anyone in for a game of Poker, while we're here already?

*deals out some cards (http://gamesmuseum.uwaterloo.ca/VirtualExhibits/Playing%20Cards/decks/korea/opendeck.JPG)*

Only to realize your view of the field is still obscured by a support beam.

Which turns out to be THE DWARVES' SPACE ELEVATOR.

So I'm playing with timespace continuums (continuua?) a little to enable them to build it :p

So I'm playing with timespace continuums (continuua?) a little to enable them to build it :p

Oh, don't get me wrong, the Kingdom of Dancougar supports all endeavors related to constructing a space elevator, possibly excepting the composition of space elevator music.

So I'm playing with timespace continuums (continuua?) a little to enable them to build it :p

*sighs* Thanks to Albert Einstein, "wasting time" has never been the same...

Oh, don't get me wrong, the Kingdom of Dancougar supports all endeavors related to constructing a space elevator, possibly excepting the composition of space elevator music.

*furiously scribbles some non-sense onto paper and submits it as the official space elevator music*

*furiously scribbles some non-sense onto paper and submits it as the official space elevator music*

Han, what hast thou dunced? (http://www.pladask.net/skrot/faeries/faeries_aire_and_death_waltz.jpg)

Wentland 1 – 2 Jeru FC

Go Maggie! :)

Yay Caf nd Dan!

Yay Demot!

Yay being the opening game and putting on a show!

Poor n00b got smooshed :(

and Yay no more Bush!

Smooshed, what a great word. I'll take it.

Errrm don't know if this has been done before but, when the NS world cup is going on, does any body fancy doing a hooligan rp to go alongside the tornament? I think to not interfere with the cup the fights should not happen in the grounds or around players hotels.

So any interest?? lol

Errrm don't know if this has been done before but, when the NS world cup is going on, does any body fancy doing a hooligan rp to go alongside the tornament? I think to not interfere with the cup the fights should not happen in the grounds or around players hotels.

So any interest?? lol

Join the World Cup 45, and send your players and hooligans. I'm sure it can be just another RP theme inside the World Cup RP.

Join the World Cup 45, and send your players and hooligans. I'm sure it can be just another RP theme inside the World Cup RP.

Or even better, send a team of hooligans!

How about a team of naked lesbian porn star hooligans? Or is that Jeruselem's forté? :tongue:

How about a team of naked lesbian porn star hooligans? Or is that Jeruselem's forté? :tongue:

I think the Holy Empire already did that in World Cup 30 (xXx) except they weren't quite hooligans. You want hooligans - SN is here.
Anyway, it's my job to have the best looking women in this cup.

Or even better, send a team of hooligans!

Bostopian Army F.C.? Bloody statue thieves. *shakes fist furiously*

I think the Holy Empire already did that in World Cup 30 (xXx) except they weren't quite hooligans. You want hooligans - SN is here.

There was only the one time that our army lead by a fanatical military mad-mad (not necessarily based on the user behind Bostopia) took over the football team. I'd also like to point out it wasn't us who started the riots in Little Greece. :p

Yeah I want my share of the blame for those riots... plus it was technically your fault for playing Turks in a place called Little Gayreece

Only the football team has been called the Stars. Well, the Under 21s have been called the Junior Stars. If Sarzonia participates in the DiBradini Cup, I'll still use Junior Stars. Other teams have had unique names (like the Slash in lacrosse or the Stingers in gridball). Those teams will now also be called the Stars.

If they play at night, deep in the heart of Texas (http://www.nationstates.net/region=Texas), will they "shine so bright"? ';)

Bostopian Army F.C.? Bloody statue thieves. *shakes fist furiously*

( IC: ) Emperor Boston, standing in-front of a statue of Pedro the Donkey - which formerly resided in Beningrad before it was stolen by members of the Emperor's Own Regiment - is making an official for-foreign-broadcast-only statement on the claims that the Bostopian Army stole a statue of Pedro the Donkey. "I find it absolutely deplorable that Sorthern Northland would accuse the Army in this way. Everyone knows that the Emperor's Own Regiment is a separate branch of the Bostopian Armed Forces, and that the Army itself had nothing to do with it."

Margaret hates me.

I'm not rping the las day. Bored. Hmm just letting everything slide right past. Well we'll see how much i lose byy.

Is it possible to win and not win?

Ask Bazalonia! (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=World_Cup_39#Group_Stage)

And unlucky for Jeruselem; not only losing to Peisandros (congrats!), but every team that has any affiliation with Jeruselem lost out...

Bears draw the #3 and Peisandros with the big win.

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH DANCOUGAR CLASS OF 44 BABY, WOOOOOOOO!

Even the Elves had trouble today, only a draw.

Margaret hates me.

You could always do what the head of Legalese's supporters club did by changing his name to Margaret (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7503506&postcount=42). :tongue:

Even the Elves had trouble today, only a draw.

Which, provided AIF hasn't RPed yet, fits perfectly into my plans.

What the Hades did I ever do to CAM to tick them off?

I almost feel guilty for winning.... Sorry Jeruselem! :(

Qazox, for future reference, how is your nation name pronounced? I said KA-zox in my audio RP, but I've also heard KU-a-zox.

Qazox, for future reference, how is your nation name pronounced? I said KA-zox in my audio RP, but I've also heard KU-a-zox.

Kwazox all the way :D

For progressing from the Cup's 'group stage'; to the first of the 'knockout rounds', are ties broken firstly by head-to-head results or does it go directly to goal difference?

This is a formal request from myself for some community input into my next RP.

I'm planning on having a Q&A session with the Emperor (amongst other things if there's a lack of response), so if anyone has any questions they want answering (be they football related, diplomatic, silly, stupid, downright rude) etc etc, could you tg them to me, with the name and location of the person who would, IC'ly be answering the question (city and nation) - ie Frank from Riikenberg, Bostopia.

All questions will be answered one way or another, and my thanks in advance :)

Qazox, for future reference, how is your nation name pronounced? I said KA-zox in my audio RP, but I've also heard KU-a-zox.

Kaz-ox (emphasis placed on the Qaz part)

This is a formal request from myself for some community input into my next RP.

Most hated Dancougar strikes with questionation!

On a totally unrelated note, I'm wondering if there's anyone here who wants to have some news reported on their country (yes, the Internet Radio has burgeoned thanks to Ad'ihan...). If so, please send me a TG. Or send me an email (daehanjeiguk@yahoo.co.kr). Or send me a dozen red tulips with chocolates laced with cyanide. If you're interested, I give you more details on what I want.

Lovisa's post is so weird because of translation right, or is that just the way it was written. Isnt it originaly polish.

Lovisa's post is so weird because of translation right, or is that just the way it was written. Isnt it originaly polish.

Well, I start by barking into a microphone, having my computer tell me that I'm sixty kilos overweight, and that my pet anaconda just threw up a yeti's furball on my newest tabriz carpet; then, my computer translates that into Juju-speak, complete with BAC of .4928 and a tricycle hacksaw; I take that to Altavista and translate into Bensroomese (I have no clue where I got this from, but I swear one of you gave it to me); finally, I spend 4 hours, 30 liters of coffee, 10 visits to the bathroom, 574,948 pats on my pet anaconda, and 87 revisions writing my RP.


So I guess Lovisa's posts wouldn't be the weirdest in NS just because off translation...

*gasp* I just gave away my secrets! *runs away with a dictionary of Italian slang diving terms (and not diving under the sea, you dumpkopf)*

As an aside, Liventia is 里温硖 — "li wen xia" and Ad'ihan is 阿敌汉 — "a di han"

FYI to Daehanjeiguk.

What the Hades did I ever do to CAM to tick them off?

That was my 1200th combined post on both WCDT? I feel ashamed, you figure out which one I'm more ashamed of.

Back on topic, maybe, the next BoF (i know, we haven't even started the CoH yet), will probably start in mid-to-late February, correct?

As an aside, Liventia is 里温硖 — "li wen xia" and Ad'ihan is 阿敌汉 — "a di han"

FYI to Daehanjeiguk.

I remember seeing something like this...

But just to say, I've checked me bag of words (dictionary), and just as an advisory:

Liventia would in Hanja transliteration become: Li-on-ha (acceptable, especially with the meaning);

Ad'ihan would in Hanja transliteration become: Ok-jeok-han (unfortunately, I don't think there are any Hanja transliteration for a "di" syllable in Korean...), which could be translated as "Resisting China"...

But if it's the official transliteration that you prefer (because it's fine in Mandarin transliteration), I'll change it.

Sweet Sixteen, to were the Tornado will lose by millions to Valanora. I bowed out though. Total Suprise.

Undefeated World Cup! Yeeeeeaaaaah!!!

Oh, wait, we're competing for points? Oooooo. Riiiiight. Shoot.

Look at the bright side, only one more robot RP you have to read this cup :-D

Undefeated World Cup! Yeeeeeaaaaah!!!

Oh, wait, we're competing for points? Oooooo. Riiiiight. Shoot.

Look at the bright side, only one more robot RP you have to read this cup :-D

What happened to Dancougar Class of 44??? :eek:

Hey, what would I have to do to put in a bid to host the Baptism of Fire Cup?

Edit: Also, what would I have to do? Would I have to scorinate or anything like that? I'm not entering a bid yet, but I just want to know what I would have to do.

What happened to Dancougar Class of 44??? :eek:

Ah, that was referring to the Baptism of Fire class for World Cup 44, since the finalists both qualified, I was living vicariously through them.

Actual Dancougar.... yeeeeah, maybe I should've stayed at +2 instead of bumping to +2.5... the scorinator is like...

if (floor(style) != style) {
// this guy is probably a jerk who thinks decimal modifiers help
// these don't really fit in the current algorithm, so mark as a TODO
return new NoGoalsForYouException();
}

Ah, that was referring to the Baptism of Fire class for World Cup 44, since the finalists both qualified, I was living vicariously through them.

Actual Dancougar.... yeeeeah, maybe I should've stayed at +2 instead of bumping to +2.5... the scorinator is like...

if (floor(style) != style) {
// this guy is probably a jerk who thinks decimal modifiers help
// these don't really fit in the current algorithm, so mark as a TODO
return new NoGoalsForYouException();
}

I was referring to the fact that Peisandros will be continuing your living legacy by facing off against Starblaydia in the R16...

EDIT >>> Oh, and apologies to people who actually listen to that 10 minute behemoth of talking ... I clearly wasted too much time doing that...

Clearly *everyone* is wasting too much time doing it :tongue:

Hey, what would I have to do to put in a bid to host the Baptism of Fire Cup?

Edit: Also, what would I have to do? Would I have to scorinate or anything like that? I'm not entering a bid yet, but I just want to know what I would have to do.To bid for the Baptism of Fire, post here (or make your own thread, but that's rarer) explaining how you'd run the tournament. You would indeed have to scorinate. If you don't want to do it solo, however, there's no harm in asking for potential co-hosts. Baptisms of Fire are frequently run by two hosts, one fairly experienced and another new to the hosting scene.

Clearly *everyone* is wasting too much time doing it :tongue:

*me hunts for Yaf's radio RP*


@ Bostopia: me is sorry; me can't read youze wma... do youze hatez mez? (actually, it seems to a network problem, damned Internet...)

By Margaret... Has any nation besides Peisandros ever reached the last 16 in their first try (beside the first few cups, mind you)?

*me hunts for Yaf's radio RP*


@ Bostopia: me is sorry; me can't read youze wma... do youze hatez mez? (actually, it seems to a network problem, damned Internet...)

Have a try later, and if you're still having problems, lemme know. Sound Recorder saves them in .wma (so I'm cheap, big deal :p) and I just upload 'em like that.

Nethertopia: someone debuted in WC25 and made the last eight... Aquiliana.

...I'm embarrassed to admit I hosted that one, too...

Peisandros is making all of us former BoF entrants who still haven't qualified for the World Cup proper look horribly bad. :(

Hey, what would I have to do to put in a bid to host the Baptism of Fire Cup?

Edit: Also, what would I have to do? Would I have to scorinate or anything like that? I'm not entering a bid yet, but I just want to know what I would have to do.

You would have to do everything a host normally does. Although I'm not sure whether too many people would trust you (newbies in general, that is, not you personally) with hosting duties alone, so you're better off finding a partner. Also preferably someone who won't mind you making the mistake that you can't actually enter the BoF (as you tried to do in your WC45 signup) once you've been in the World Cup (rare exceptions to the rule aside). ;)

Have a try later, and if you're still having problems, lemme know. Sound Recorder saves them in .wma (so I'm cheap, big deal :p) and I just upload 'em like that.

Han: Bostopia, meet Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/). Audacity, this is Bostopia. He needs something that records in mp3 format and is cheap.

Audacity: Oh, don't forget to mention the Lame (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&item=lame-mp3) add-in too! He won't be able to export in mp3 without it! And don't forget to mention that since Audacity is open-source (yes, I know I'm speaking in the third-person, but then again, this is the third-person speaking in the first-person of a third party - weird...), Audacity is free to use. Plus, all you folks using Macs and Linux can use me too!

Han: Oh, gee! Thanks! (to Bostopia) Oh, and your linky thing still doesn't work. My computer doesn't seem to like bostopia.net...

Peisandros is making all of us former BoF entrants who still haven't qualified for the World Cup proper look horribly bad. :(

I'd say he's making all of the old people look bad. Qualifies on first attempt, progresses to Second Round on first attempt; and we tell y'all "keep rping!!! it's how you get into the World Cup!" (of course, at least he rps... there are those whose-names-shall-not-be-mentioned who qualify without doing anything...)

Kosovoe and Peisandros in the Final 16?

WTF is the World Cup coming to?

And what the hell am I doing wrong?

Yeah seriously what am i doing wrong that my puppet makes the 16 round, but i don't geese.

Yeah seriously what am i doing wrong that my puppet makes the 16 round, but i don't geese.

You seem to have the same luck as Qazox! :)
You don't seem to get that lucky win.

You would have to do everything a host normally does. Although I'm not sure whether too many people would trust you (newbies in general, that is, not you personally) with hosting duties alone, so you're better off finding a partner. Also preferably someone who won't mind you making the mistake that you can't actually enter the BoF (as you tried to do in your WC45 signup) once you've been in the World Cup (rare exceptions to the rule aside). ;)

Well, I have read a little but I still know almost nothing about scorinating. I don't know if I'm interested in hosting, I was just checking on what I would have to do. i don't think that I will.

And I thought that I could enter the BoF because I didn't qualify in the last World Cup?

The BoF is only for new countries, which have never participated in a World Cup before (including qualifying stages). The few exceptions to this rule are older participants that, when signing up, have 0 KPB points and haven't participated in a BoF before.

Lovisa's post is so weird because of translation right, or is that just the way it was written. Isnt it originaly polish.
yes thats right. And Im orginally polish, so sometimes is hart to writting corect. sorry 4 that.

By Margaret... Has any nation besides Peisandros ever reached the last 16 in their first try (beside the first few cups, mind you)?

Haha, I'm shocked! It's crazy huh.

Peisandros is making all of us former BoF entrants who still haven't qualified for the World Cup proper look horribly bad. :(

No, not at all. I owe a lot to all my BoF compatriots :)

I'd say he's making all of the old people look bad. Qualifies on first attempt, progresses to Second Round on first attempt; and we tell y'all "keep rping!!! it's how you get into the World Cup!" (of course, at least he rps... there are those whose-names-shall-not-be-mentioned who qualify without doing anything...)

Haha I'm not trying to, sorry! I really enjoy it though, it would have been totally happy with just the qualifying. I'll be doing some more interesting RPs next time, promise!
Kosovoe and Peisandros in the Final 16?

WTF is the World Cup coming to?

And what the hell am I doing wrong?

Haha, I just feel bad now. :(

Oh well, I'll just qualify in my fifth attempt, right?

...

Right?

Oh well, I'll just qualify in my fifth attempt, right?

...

Right?

Or you can do what I did on my fifth attempt - Win the CoH! :D

Dear God.

Go away for a weekend of surprise 40th birthday drinkies, and look what happens.

The Dreamed Realm - bringing you chronic underachievement since World Cup 1.


Back to presidential duties for me for another World Cup, then.

Any interest in hosting the BoF out there yet?

I've come straight from the sign-up thread to raise an issue brought to my attention by Newmanistan.

Please see this post:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14438594&postcount=96

Summarising, Newmanistan believes - not without good reason - that Questille and Los Plamos are controlled by the same player, that they are in effect both puppets of Galaxianda.

If this is the case, since neither Questille or Los Plamos have participated in the WC before, one of them would be ineligble for the World Cup as no first time participant nation (as opposed to first time participant player) may have a puppet.

However, if you read through the entirety of the thread that Newmanistan's post links to, Questille seems to actively deny that he and Galaxianda are the same player, and seems to state that he merely knows Galaxianda, and was able to sign Galaxianda up for a tournament because Galaxianda gave him his e-mail. There's also no direct written confirmation that Los Plamos and Questille are controlled by the same person (though again, legitimate suspicions can be raised here).

Now, there's a can of worms in here.

The questions are, are Questille and Galaxianda the same person?

Is Los Plamos controlled by either Questille or Galaxianda (or both, if the same person)?

Can anyone here prove either of the above points either way without recourse to a mod, or should I go to the modcave for a ruling?

If it turns out that Questille and Los Plamos are controlled by different people, I don't want to throw one of them out of the WC by mistake.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

I'm inclined to go with the "innocent until proven guilty" model. There's no actual proof in said thread where either Questille, Los Plamos, or Galaxianda admit that they are the same person - in fact, it seems like the whole thing arises because of Newmanistan's suspicions (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418675&postcount=18), which seem to go without any proof or allowance of response ("Pretty ironic that two unfamiliar nations to competitions would sign up...within minutes of each other while you are also shown as being online" is basically all that amounts to proof, and I don't think "please don't waste your or my time denying this" is really allowing Questille to respond). I'd tend to allow everyone in and, worst case scenario, we've made an honest mistake. If we kick someone else out, we might actually damage the WC as a whole, as one person probably won't want to do it again.

Let them all stay in the WC unless someone can provide actual proof that they are the same person. We've always followed the honor system in the past. I don't think unsubstantiated claims are any reason to abandon it.

To be fair, I think Newmanistan's suspicions have significantly more backing than just what's in the post you linked to. This thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=581020), to me, looks like (admittedly implicit) corroboration from the mods.

To be fair, I think Newmanistan's suspicions have significantly more backing than just what's in the post you linked to. This thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=581020), to me, looks like (admittedly implicit) corroboration from the mods.

I'll add a note to the modcave thread Veph links to above to ask for specific mod confirmation as to whether they're all the same player.

Hrm. Given Kryozerkia's response, especially regarding the word "he", seems to imply that yes, Questille, the Vepisiandi Isles, and Galaxianda are the same person (with no word for the others, though). However, if Questille's explanation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14419362&postcount=23) is true, this could show up to the mods as them being the same person, especially if they know each other (I know that when I started NS, a close friend of mine and myself used to share comps, because we'd log on at the same time).

It looks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14438986&postcount=4) like (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14439006&postcount=5) it's up to the community to decide.

EDIT: Obviously, this is Yafor.

Puppet multying in threads is not against the rules, although it certainly is bad form and cheating. Puppet multying in the game is. You may draw your own conclusions on the current situation by investigation of publicly available records.

In this spirit, I have investigated some publicly available records.

9 hours ago: Questille endorsed The Commonwealth of The Vepsiandi Isles.
1 day ago: Questille relocated from Leviathan to The Global Union.
1 day ago: Questille endorsed The Grand Duchy of Kroningburg.
3 days ago: Questille was endorsed by The Grand Duchy of Kroningburg.
4 days ago: Questille endorsed The Constitutional Monarchy of Los Plasmos.

9 hours ago: Los Plasmos endorsed The Commonwealth of The Vepsiandi Isles.

2 hours ago: The Commonwealth of The Vepsiandi Isles was ejected from the WA for rule violations.
2 hours ago: The Constitutional Monarchy of Los Plasmos was ejected from the WA for rule violations.
2 hours ago: The Confederacy of Questille was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

Point-blank proof? Nah. Useful evidence? Possibly.

In happier news, congratulations to Peisandros! Don't let others' envy ruin your moment of glory...or should I say your first one?

So in the 45th world cup and one intrested in doing a hooligan rp then??

Perhaps we ought to start considering the harms that could occur if whoever this is really is trying to use multiple puppets against NSWC rules. If we are to assume that this player is cheating, which I wouldn't recommend without being able to do some kind of investigation which would take a while, do we have a list of precedents in place?

However, there's a reason for the principle of "innocent until proven guilty." It may be possible that whoever this is may simply have one country and has flatmates who have other countries. Or maybe a brother or sister or cousin is playing the game. Or a husband/girlfriend/boyfriend.

If we have conclusive evidence that it's one player trying to get around the puppets rule, then by all means boot all his or her nations. If not, how do we verify that everyone has no more than one puppet involved in the World Cup? Do we want to do away with the honour system and possibly cast doubt that, say, Terreiro de Ogum is a puppet of Cafundéu? Or that Rymeria is a puppet of Sarzonia?

In my opinion, the following persons are at least minimally related:

Galaxianda
Sapphiriandia
Questille
Los Plasmos
The Vepsiandi Isles
Governmentation

Why I think so?

Galaxianda was perhaps the first in a line of many puppets that started sprouting, especially after people started confronting him/her.

I think that the clearest link is between Questille and Governmentation, because - well... he/she said so. Accepting that, Questille is likely linked to Galaxianda notably because only Questille managed to make a reply to a thread that was otherwise dead (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578530). The first reply after nearly 2 weeks and no bumps. Furthermore, his/her response to the Archregimancy's claims (among many others) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418786&postcount=21) was "WRONG. I have a different e-mail... He told me his. So, ha! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14419362&postcount=23)". The Vespiandi Isles is also a likely puppet because when Ad'ihan asked Vespiandi Isles to stop spamming (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14433978&postcount=2), Vespiandi replied "ahem... different email (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14435445&postcount=6)"; not your typical response for someone who's new to NS and/or a single person. So Questille, Governmentation, Galaxianda, now Vespiandi Isles. Sapphiriandia is probably a puppet, based on the weird style of locations used in their person information:

Questille - Che'a, Thresedi, Questille
Galaxianda - Britviania, Prostiche, Galaxiana
Sapphiriandia - Great Nevera, Miche, Sapphirianda

There is some collaborative evidence in NS General, but I'm not in the mood now to go fishing there for more concrete proof. I think Los Plasmos might also be a puppet because of the following exchange: LOS-"Los Plasmos will enter it's first competition. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418656&postcount=15)... SAP- "So will Sapphiriandia. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418659&postcount=16)". While that remark alone is insufficient to determine whether Los Plasmos is a puppet of the said nation(s), the conversational disposition follows what I would expect of someone in the tradition of the said nation(s).


In my semi-professional opinion, whoever is/are behind these nations has/have largely acted in a juvenile manner, especially Questille and Galaxianda. The person(s) who has/have controlled these nations has/have not carefully thought out their responses to people in general. For me, the leaps in cognition (how would Vespiandi Isles know what Ad'ihan was talking about? and such) are enough to convince me that there is one puppet master.

Not to mention that most of the names share an odd -ianda root with variations:

Galaxy + ianda = Galaxianda
Sapphire + iandia = Sapphiriandia
Vespers + iandi = Vespiandi Isles

And the name Governmentation is perhaps a critical and political rebuff of the challenges that Galaxianda et. al. has received from other members in NS; if it is such, it's an immature reply in my opinion.


Nonetheless, I can't prove anything, as much as anyone else has had. But by reading some of the remarks that Galaxianda et. al. has spawned from others (in NS General mostly), I can foresee a slight possibility that Galaxianda may cause some trouble to us. The fact that two of the above persons (Questilles and Los Plasmos) have signed up is troubling. But I don't think that they're honest trouble-makers. Just rather an enthusiastic n00bie (case study - IC remarks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14276418&postcount=10) in NS General (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14280522&postcount=10)). Do we want to stifle creativity? No... but we don't want it growing like weeds either. Give him/her/them a chance to blossom within the NSWC structure and they may yet mature. If not, the great lawnmower that is Margaret will do the job for us.


EDIT - I have conclusive proof here that Vespiandi Isles, Los Plasmos, and Questille are using the same email address (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t156/daehanjeiguk/NS/plasmos.png), which may imply that they are puppeted by the same person. Furthermore, Vespiandi Isles set up a Regional Password, meaning only people with a password can enter the Region. The listed off-site forums for the region (http://globalunion.the-talk.net/forum.htm) have only one registered user ("Admin"). Furthermore, following Galaxianda around NS led me to the BIP (http://www.nationstates.net/02171/page=display_region/region=the_bip), which has as members Euro Federation (not a puppet but did post on the in the NationStates Oscars thingy thread) and Sapphiriandia. I'm nearly 100% positive that at least the individuals above are owned by one email user.

EDIT2 - So I have time to investigate this stuff... sue me.

EDIT3 - Dammit, Zwang! beat me to it...

Because I have nothing better to do/want to avoid studying for finals/am I wicked bastard/have a passion for the truth/am a staunch guardian of the process/am slightly bored, I will continue in my self-appointed role of defense attorney. :)

In my opinion, the following persons are at least minimally related:

Galaxianda
Sapphiriandia
Questille
Los Plasmos
The Vepsiandi Isles
Governmentation

Questille's explanation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14419362&postcount=23) requires such.

I think that the clearest link is between Questille and Governmentation, because - well... he/she said so. Accepting that, Questille is likely linked to Galaxianda notably because only Questille managed to make a reply to a thread that was otherwise dead (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578530). The first reply after nearly 2 weeks and no bumps. Furthermore, his/her response to the Archregimancy's claims (among many others) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418786&postcount=21) was "WRONG. I have a different e-mail... He told me his. So, ha! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14419362&postcount=23)".

All this establishes is that they do in fact know each other IRL, which really isn't a reason to throw anyone out of the WC. Moreover, if they do know each other/are close friends, it would then make sense for them to post in each other's threads, especially something like "bravo!".

The Vespiandi Isles is also a likely puppet because when Ad'ihan asked Vespiandi Isles to stop spamming (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14433978&postcount=2), Vespiandi replied "ahem... different email (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14435445&postcount=6)"; not your typical response for someone who's new to NS and/or a single person.

Firstly, that's not the only response he makes in that thread itself, the second of which (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14435564&postcount=10) sort of states that they are indeed different people. More importantly, however, The Vespiandi Isles hasn't applied for WC45, so even if they are the same person, that doesn't have any impact on the issue - even I have puppets I don't use for the WC.

Questille - Che'a, Thresedi, Questille
Galaxianda - Britviania, Prostiche, Galaxiana
Sapphiriandia - Great Nevera, Miche, Sapphirianda

That really isn't evidence, because it's not really indicative of anything (as a lot of people have similar styles), but it's also explained if one person introduced the others to RPing - when I started NS, my friend "Arglemeton" used to have a very similar RP'ing style to me on our regional forum, because he had learned it from me.

I think Los Plasmos might also be a puppet because of the following exchange: LOS-"Los Plasmos will enter it's first competition. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418656&postcount=15)... SAP- "So will Sapphiriandia. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14418659&postcount=16)". While that remark alone is insufficient to determine whether Los Plasmos is a puppet of the said nation(s), the conversational disposition follows what I would expect of someone in the tradition of the said nation(s).

Bolded the important part myself.

Not to mention that most of the names share an odd -ianda root with variations:

Galaxy + ianda = Galaxianda
Sapphire + iandia = Sapphiriandia
Vespers + iandi = Vespiandi Isles

Interesting, but not really conclusive. Also explained by the "they know each other" theory, which Questille puts forward (if somewhat implicitly).

EDIT - I have conclusive proof here that Vespiandi Isles, Los Plasmos, and Questille are using the same email address (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t156/daehanjeiguk/NS/plasmos.png), which may imply that they are puppeted by the same person. Furthermore, Vespiandi Isles set up a Regional Password, meaning only people with a password can enter the Region.

Zwang's already pointed this out (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14439573&postcount=7679), has Katganistan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14438986#post14438986). The second part of my earlier post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14438837&postcount=7677) addresses this, I think.

The listed off-site forums for the region (http://globalunion.the-talk.net/forum.htm) have only one registered user ("Admin").

I noticed this myself, but the nations and the region are rather new.

Furthermore, following Galaxianda around NS led me to the BIP (http://www.nationstates.net/02171/page=display_region/region=the_bip), which has as members Euro Federation (not a puppet but did post on the in the NationStates Oscars thingy thread) and Sapphiriandia.

So, they know each other?


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Okay, so I'll abandon my defense attorney-wannabee posture and actually give my personal opinion. I think that it's very, very, likely that they are the same person. I think that having the same person run more than one puppet in the World Cup is bad. But without concrete proof (and that means more than just lots of circumstantial evidence, which is all we have), we can't prove anything. Sarz illustrates the problem with abandoning that stance:

However, there's a reason for the principle of "innocent until proven guilty." It may be possible that whoever this is may simply have one country and has flatmates who have other countries. Or maybe a brother or sister or cousin is playing the game. Or a husband/girlfriend/boyfriend.

I don't want to get rid of someone who clearly has an interest in RP'ing. Moreover, this opens up a can of worms, as Sarz continues:

If we have conclusive evidence that it's one player trying to get around the puppets rule, then by all means boot all his or her nations. If not, how do we verify that everyone has no more than one puppet involved in the World Cup? Do we want to do away with the honour system and possibly cast doubt that, say, Terreiro de Ogum is a puppet of Cafundéu? Or that Rymeria is a puppet of Sarzonia?

We work by the hono(u for all you commonwealthers)r system. I don't think we should abandon it just for circumstantial evidence that can be explained, no matter how strong that circumstantial evidence is.

I believe that Questille and Galaxindia are two different people or i think it said that in the Air Race thread

Presidential announcement

I'd like to thank everyone for their contributions to the Questille/Galaxianda debate so far.

I've recently cast my mind back to precedents that might deal with this situation, and I think I've found one in the shape of Andossa se Mitrin Vega and Dorian & Sonya.

For those whose memories don't stretch back that far, these were two nations controlled by a husband and wife, and using the same computer / ISP.

While it was absolutely clear that they were separate people, because of the NS rules regarding nations using the same computer, we had to consider D&S as a puppet of ASMV for sign-up purposes.

So, can anyone prove to me conclusively whether or not Questille and Los Plamos are using the same computer / ISP?

If they are, then I can't sign both of them up. Our internal rules are very clear that we don't allow puppets for first time nations. Even if the nations are controlled by separate people, if they're using the same computer, by precedent we have to consider one to be a puppet of the other.

If, however, they are using separate computers, I'll allow both nations to remain regardless of our suspicions. I won't kick someone out on the basis of unproven suspicion.

Any thoughts?

If you'd waited just a minute longer... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14439819&postcount=7) :p

Hehe.

That achieves even my threshold of burden of proof. :tongue:

Because I have nothing better to do/want to avoid studying for finals/am I wicked bastard/have a passion for the truth/am a staunch guardian of the process/am slightly bored, I will continue in my self-appointed role of defense attorney. :)

I don't think defending him/her/them is going to help us resolve our dilemma. I stated my opinions solely for the purpose of Galaxianda et. al. to come and provide conclusive evidence that this isn't an elaborate network of puppets. Simply saying "I'm not" is not enough.

Personally, I'm not going to respond to the finely worded defense, because that would be making a pointless (but FUN! - if I had the time :() tail chase in the wrong direction. I think we need Galaxianda et. al. to make their own statement, as opposed to people making their statements.


My personal opinion - this isn't bad because we've got too many puppets; this is bad because the person who's going about this business isn't being absolutely forthright about this situation. So if they are distinct people, how are they distinct? Brothers? Sisters? Brother/Sister? Uncle/Aunt/Nephew/Niece? Guy who bought that car six months ago? Step-Brother's Daughter's pet gerbil's gut bacteria's former human host buddies (I hope not)?

Ugh... I'm wasting time...

... I think I've found one in the shape of Andossa se Mitrin Vega and Dorian & Sonya.

For those whose memories don't stretch back that far, these were two nations controlled by a husband and wife, and using the same computer / ISP.

While it was absolutely clear that they were separate people, because of the NS rules regarding nations using the same computer, we had to consider D&S as a puppet of ASMV for sign-up purposes.

I think the two eventually became entrenched as separate entities that they were, erroneously of course, considered as separate nations.

And yet another nation (pair of, really) that I wish was still around.

Right, so do we kick them all out, or allow the first one that signed up to stay, or what? I'm sure we have some precedent here, but I really can't recall what.

Right, so do we kick them all out, or allow the first one that signed up to stay, or what? I'm sure we have some precedent here, but I really can't recall what.

I believe this was the whole Jon Parkin/Elrich/Someone else triangle; IIRC, the last of the three nations to enter was ejected.

I could be wrong though.

I can't recall what the precedent is, either.

I'm willing to leave it up to Arch to decide what to do.

I'm never going to host a cup. Its so confusing. :(

Normally I would give them benefit of the doubt, but given the lengths at which this person has gone to in bad faith to spam and puppeteer, I'm not convinced we should let any of them remain.

Any interest in hosting the BoF out there yet?

Yes. (My thread will be posted and linked to ASAP)

Qazox' BoF Bid (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14441406#post14441406)

BTW...If I win the right to host the next BoF, then there will not be an Oxen Cup 10, if i don't win, then there might be one.

My 2 cents on the Galaxanidan situation...
Unlike the person(s) in question, I did have about a few extra nations on NS, But I never tried to claim all of themas puppets of each other or of Qazox, at least not on the forums. I decided to purge the other nations, (except my main puppet, Sativaville) to avoid being tempted to abuse such a situation. I will defer to the President's decision on this matter. But personally, we should try to attempt to confirm such situations as they happen.

Presidential announcement

I'm going to play this one by the book.

We now have official mod confirmation that Questille, etc. are all the same person.

While this person directly lied to myself about the relationship between Questille and Galaxianda, lying is not by itself a breach of NSWC rules, nor has it - in this case - lead to a permaban for the nation. So long as a nation hasn't been banned from the forums, I'm extremely reluctant to ban it from the tournament, especially when that nation is highly enthusiastic and could benefit from guidance and experience.

A by the book reading of the rules states that only one of Questille and Los Plamos are eligible. While the player controlling these nations has previously entered (as Euro Federations), neither has previously entered itself. Since our rules clearly state that first time entrant nations may not have puppets, regardless of how many times the _player_ has entered*, then Questille may enter the World Cup, but Los Plamos may not do so except as a puppet of Questille in World Cup 46.

If Questille/Galaxianda wishes to enter two nations in World Cup 45, then he should enter Euro Federations (which has previously participated, I think - correct me if I'm wrong), with either Questille or Los Plamos as his puppet.



* See me in WCs 24 and 25 - I couldn't revive the Holy Empire until the Archregimancy had participated in a cup as the Archregimancy was a first time entrant, and I initially came back as the latter, not the former.

I don't believe Galaxianda has previously participated, no.

***incredibly stupid doofus talk***

So I made a post without realizing that things were already resolved... hooray hypocrisy!

Anyway, now that I have time, I do believe that it's written somewhere that a person has to participate at least once in the World Cup before submitting any puppets, and only one at any time. I'm not sure though, I'd have to read up on the rules (wherever they are...)

I don't believe Galaxianda has previously participated, no.

I don't believe so either, but in the thread in moderation, Katganistan mentions that Euro Federations is also one of his puppets. If Galaxinda insisted on having two nations in WC45, then he could play that as the main nation.

I've edited my recent announcement post to reflect that while Galaxianda hasn't previously been in the WC, yet another puppet - Euro Federations - has.

You'll forgive me, I hope, for getting a couple of nations confused when he has so many puppets floating about.


But again, Questille may enter. Los Plamos may not. If the player wants to enter two nations, he should do so with Euro Federations as the main nation and Questille/Galaxianda/Los Plamos as his puppet.

*me explodes JOLT to get rid of nasty headache that is too-many-lying-puppets syndrome*

Okay, colour me REALLY annoyed with my loss, considering when I hit submit on my RP the cutoff wasn't yet up, but Jolt's been slow for me this evening.

Please don't take this as a whinge about the result. It's a whinge that my RP wasn't counted despite the circumstances.

Actually, I remember Euro Federations because Rymeria played Euro Federations twice in World Cup XLIV.

I agree with Arch's ruling.

Elune is such a merciful goddess. :hail:

Looks like Valanora may win again, or Starblaydia :D

Looks like Valanora may win again, or Starblaydia :D

Or Bostopia or Cafundéu. Ahem.

Or Bostopia or Cafundéu. Ahem.

My apologies to Bostopia and Cafundéu. :$

I wonder If I have any of those "AOCAF ABE" T-shirts going spare?

Obviously I'll have to cross out "AOCAF" and put in "WC44"...

Either that or send them to impovrished Lamoni children. :tongue:

Either that or send them to impovrished Lamoni children. :tongue:

Don't have nearly enough T-shirts for that. :tongue:

Don't have nearly enough T-shirts for that. :tongue:

Then again, I can see their reactions upon receiving a Krytenia as AOCAF or Krytenia as World Cup champions T-shirt.

"Again?!?!"

Then again, I can see their reactions upon receiving a Krytenia as AOCAF or Krytenia as World Cup champions T-shirt.

"Again?!?!"

¿Que?

¿Que?

So you heard about the reaction of the kid from Guatemala when he received a Philadelphia Eagles NFC Champions T-shirt? :tongue:

If not, it was a joke about how many times the Eagles lost in that particular game on the road to the Super Bowl.

Where can I join one of the World Cups or games or something? It seems all of the threads I checked out are coming to and end or are halfway through.

Where can I join one of the World Cups or games or something? It seems all of the threads I checked out are coming to and end or are halfway through.

Sign up for the World Cup 45. WC44 is in its qualifying stages.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580046


Great to see you Greston. :D

Then again, I can see their reactions upon receiving a Krytenia as AOCAF or Krytenia as World Cup champions T-shirt.

"Again?!?!"

Well they probably aren't as tired of those as they are of the "Qazox 10-time World Cup Champions" T-Shirts... :rolleyes:

I noticed Jeruselem beat one of finalists twice and had a draw with the other one. :)
Pity about that one game I didn't win.

Well they probably aren't as tired of those as they are of the "Qazox 10-time World Cup Champions" T-Shirts... :rolleyes:

You do realise that by the time WC1093 comes around, it'll just be you and me left rolling a dice:

"w00t, a five! I'm 378-time World Champions!"

"I'll get you next time - roll again!"

"Six! 379-time World Champions!"

"Oh crap. Re-roll..."

I have a brilliant idea for ending the Elven domination of the World Cup!

In tribute to the tournament's historic past, once the qualifiers are out of the way, let's scorinate the WC45 finals with dice!



[no, your president is not unhinged - this was a joke. Honest]

DOWN WITH ARCH!

Down with the President

Viva La Revolution!

DOWN WITH ARCH!

Down with the President

Viva La Revolution!

I denounce these criminal statements by violent revolutionaries!

Loyalists, rally round il Presidente!

We shall fight to the death!


[slow day, innit?]

*Puts blue helmet on head*

Gentlemen, can't we solve this civilised, like... Well... Gentlemen?

You do realise that by the time WC1093 comes around, it'll just be you and me left rolling a dice:

Never.

The Holy Empire plans on being the last one to turn out the lights, just like it was one of the first to turn them on in the first place.

And even when we're the very last nation left in the World Cup, we'll still find a way of getting knocked out before the semi-finals.

Over, and over, and over, and over again, even unto ages of ages.

And even when we're the very last nation left in the World Cup, we'll still find a way of getting knocked out before the semi-finals.

Over, and over, and over, and over again, even unto ages of ages.

That's really going to piss SDB off...

I have a brilliant idea for ending the Elven domination of the World Cup!

In tribute to the tournament's historic past, once the qualifiers are out of the way, let's scorinate the WC45 finals with dice!



[no, your president is not unhinged - this was a joke. Honest]

I have a better idea! Denounce your so called "God" and join the ranks of the Elunists :p

Bears Armed congratulates the team from Peisandros on getting a round further into this Cup than our own team did; commiserates with them on only getting that far; congratulates them on the closeness of that final game's result... and wonders whether (OOC: if we can find somebody who's willing & able to scorinate) they'd be interested in a friendly match against us? After all, although we beat them in the BoF's final (their only defeat during that contest) they'd previously beaten us during its 'group stage' (our only defeat during that contest), leaving us at one game each...
So, how about a 'decider'?

Nethertopia would gladly host a friendly in the 45,000 seater the Home of the Dragon, if Peisandros agrees. It's best to wait for the post WC rankings, though. And don't worry, we're much more open-minded than our big neighbour :P

Sounds like an excellent idea. When do post WC rankings come around?

Probably a few days after the CoH final.

Nethertopia would gladly host a friendly in the 45,000 seater the Home of the Dragon, if Peisandros agrees. It's best to wait for the post WC rankings, though. And don't worry, we're much more open-minded than our big neighbour :P
Thank you very much for the offer. That would certainly be convenient as far as we're concerned, given that our team and most of their active supporters have just been dumped into your territory by that 'big neighbour' anyway (and 'National University at Council Groves' wants to start using Plumtrees Park for its own purposes again...), and as Peisandros hosted our 'group stage' match I'd suggest that it was our turn to choose the venue now...

You do realise that by the time WC1093 comes around, it'll just be you and me left rolling a dice:

Probably, my luck though, you'd have about 1000 of those titles, compared to my 24. :D

Speaking of which, Mr. President (or is that Pope President?) any word about the BoF Vote (ie: when it will be held?)

Probably, my luck though, you'd have about 1000 of those titles, compared to my 24. :D

Speaking of which, Mr. President (or is that Pope President?) any word about the BoF Vote (ie: when it will be held?)

First Hierarch, oh disrespectful youth.

More seriously, I'm going to give it a couple more days - so probably at the weekend.

I stress that I mean absolutely negative against your good self when I note that a couple of extra days to see if another bid might come in, or a couple more first time sign-ups to develop, won't hurt anyone.

Hmmm... This will probably mean that there will be no Oxen Cup. Would anyone be interested in co-hosting an alternative tournament with my nation? If so, please do not hesitate to TG me.

Hmmm... This will probably mean that there will be no Oxen Cup. Would anyone be interested in co-hosting an alternative tournament with my nation? If so, please do not hesitate to TG me.

You wouldst be correct. No Oxen Cup this Cycle.

What the heck do I have to do to get away from Valanora??? :eek:

Quit RPing *nods*

Well, you could do the Starblaydia thing and RP as elves :tongue:

Quit RPing *nods*

*ponders far-fetched scheme whereby Valanora will somehow still invade my dreams...*

Well, you could do the Starblaydia thing and RP as elves :tongue:

That would require me having elves...

*ponders about a breeding scheme to bring elves into the Han Empire, but the thought of AZN elves... hmmm...*

Too many creepy bugs now...

Wow, I barely managed to qualify for CoH36.

I wonder why there isn't tennis in NS.

*ponders far-fetched scheme whereby Valanora will somehow still invade my dreams...*


That can be arranged, mundy. For a fee.....

Do you feel particularly attached to your immortal soul?

The links to NSwiki in this thread's opening post are to the old site, and therefore don't work...

we've releazed that BA.

That can be arranged, mundy. For a fee.....

*ponders over paying to have worst nightmare injected into dreams...*

I'm not sure which is worse...

The links to NSwiki in this thread's opening post are to the old site, and therefore don't work...

You'll need to prod Bazalonia with an anti-Bazalope prodding stick. On a positive note, I do have a functional link (to my category) to NSWiki.

we've released that BA.

*gives up using Taeshite dictionary, demands a refund from whomever sold it*

Sorry no refunds, says it on page 1

Sorry no refunds, says it on page 1

*reads page 1*

Damn, he's right...

So they could make that bit clear enough... ;)

So they could make that bit clear enough... ;)

NO REFUNDS

Can't be any clearer than that...

Third-Place Play-off from Estadio Arrigo Nacional, Arrigo


Valanora 2 – 1 Bostopia


Valanora take third place, making that seven World Cups in a row they’ve made the top three. Weeeee.

Damn Valanorians, they're worse than Brazil!:p

Damn Valanorians, they're worse than Brazil!:p

Vanorians, thank you.