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In slightly happier news, after reviewing my records, I (as in Bostopia, not the ruddy puppet) would like to announce I will be sticking around til WC53. (Oh, look at your happy faces!)

Why?

WC33 Qualifying, MD7: Collonie 0 - 7 Bostopia
WC43 Qualifying, MD7: Bostopia 8 - 1 Bazalonia.

I'm predicting a 9 - 2 win away to Valanora in WC53 Qualis, MD7, though don't count on it..

In slightly happier news, after reviewing my records, I (as in Bostopia, not the ruddy puppet) would like to announce I will be sticking around til WC53. (Oh, look at your happy faces!)

Why?

WC33 Qualifying, MD7: Collonie 0 - 7 Bostopia
WC43 Qualifying, MD7: Bostopia 8 - 1 Bazalonia.

I'm predicting a 9 - 2 win away to Valanora in WC53 Qualis, MD7, though don't count on it..

I think Valanora's said this World Cup will be his/her last. Unless he/she decides to pull a Starblaydia and return after a many Cups absence.

Otherwise it'll be a little weird, even for this thread.

Not for you and Krytenia. :tongue:

I think Valanora's said this World Cup will be his/her last. Unless he/she decides to pull a Starblaydia and return after a many Cups absence.

Like I said in IRC, I'll dream on ;)

Like I said in IRC, I'll dream on ;)

Thanks Steven Tyler. :p

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WC33 Qualifying, MD7: Collonie 0 - 7 Bostopia
WC43 Qualifying, MD7: Bostopia 8 - 1 Bazalonia.

I'll have what he's having!

You keep away from my Jagermeister you penalty shoot-out winning (commence rant)!

You keep away from my Jagermeister you penalty shoot-out winning (commence rant)!

*phew*

For a minute there, I thought you were KRYtenia talking about me. :p

You keep away from my Jagermeister you penalty shoot-out winning (commence rant)!

I can see it now... Emperor Boston wakes up in the middle of the night all freaked out because he dreamt that he was trying to conduct a thorough inspection of the palace, except every time he tried to go through a doorway, Yuji Watanabe jumped out of nowhere and blocked him.

We all know that at somepoint some drama was going to happen this cup, but at least now we might not have that oh my god you idiots part at the end were someone loses to the team they shouldn't have and then we spend the next five days debating and its over by then. Anyways thanks for calling my post the brightest or whatever Star. Oh and in other news feel free to rp openly to about what im going to do really soon ic.

I can see it now... Emperor Boston wakes up in the middle of the night all freaked out because he dreamt that he was trying to conduct a thorough inspection of the palace, except every time he tried to go through a doorway, Yuji Watanabe jumped out of nowhere and blocked him.

Yuji, black list, black list, Yuji.

But seriously, keep away from my Jagermeister. It was a leaving present (and should have left my fridge by now, but I have no Red Bull :().

Yuji, black list, black list, Yuji.

But seriously, keep away from my Jagermeister. It was a leaving present (and should have left my fridge by now, but I have no Red Bull :().

Then drink it straight up!

Yuji, black list, black list, Yuji.

But seriously, keep away from my Jagermeister. It was a leaving present (and should have left my fridge by now, but I have no Red Bull :().

Jager + Cranberry Juice + something else = Redheaded Slut!

Cold Jager by itself goes down quite well. Obviously Red Bull is a plus, but not a necessity. ;)

Cold Jager by itself goes down quite well. Obviously Red Bull is a plus, but not a necessity. ;)

The drunk alcoholic-wannabes of some country concur with this opinion...

Jager + Cranberry Juice + something else = Redheaded Slut!

That something else is peach schnapps.

And after a goalless draw at home to Greston, I'm going to be looking for all the hard booze I can find.

That something else is peach schnapps.

And after a goalless draw at home to Greston, I'm going to be looking for all the hard booze I can find.

That explains why it went horribly wrong that one time I tried to make it with Vodka instead of Schnapps. (That night ended.....badly to say the least)

Jager + Cranberry Juice + something else = Redheaded Slut!

Dazza doesn't drink Jager there! :tongue:

Dazza doesn't drink Jager there! :tongue:

Dallases don't need alcohol to be redheaded sluts, they're just written that way. :)

That explains why it went horribly wrong that one time I tried to make it with Vodka instead of Schnapps. (That night ended.....badly to say the least)

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Hmm... the NSWC drinking game... "When Jimmy does one, bruv, take a shot."

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By the time we had gotten to that point we were across town in a rundown house, with no computer, much less the internet.

Oh for goodness sake. Go to sleep, and look what I wake up to.

A minor mistake's been made and rectified. There's been no covering of buttocks, no attempt to subvert the structure of the tournament. It's hardly the RP bonus fiasco of WC 26, or the secret semi-final manipulation of WC2, is it?

Qaz, while you claim to be over it, can I give you a bit of constructive advice from someone who was inclined to give you robust support over the shared ISP issue? This sort of over-reaction to a minor problem is hardly going to bolster your case when it comes to overcoming the objections of those who are sceptical regarding whether you should host WCC events.

You were within your rights to raise a query, but once the hosts had explained the error, you should have just let it drop and move on. Lesson learned, I hope.

The rest of you, I suggest you just let it drop.

Move along now, please... nothing to see here anymore....

I once again apologize for overreacting to something that in the long run means zilch.

Hmm... the NSWC drinking game... "When Jimmy does one, bruv, take a shot."

We tried that. Everyone decided to have a shot whenever I bitched about something.....

Needless to say it only lasted that one hour....:$

Take a shot whenever you lose or tie a team without a roster.
Take a shot whenever you learn something that can be applied in real life from a RP.
Take a shot whenever Arroza quits RPing their theme mid-tournament (4 for 4 so far.)
Take a shot whenever Taeshan uses a non-black color for their RP.
Take a shot whenever a Dallas or Sallad has a kid.
Take a shot whenever a country erupts into a civil war mid-cup.
Take a shot whenever the Emperor of Bostopia suffers a concussion.
Take a shot whenever you recognize the anime Dancougar's RPing.
[Nightmare mode: Finish the bottle if you have a torrent of said anime on your HD]
Take a shot whenever you think someone's theme would be improved by the addition of wrestling themes/storylines. [Secristan + paying people not to fight/play ala Ted Dibiase]

Die of Alcohol poisoning by MD 5.

Hmm... the NSWC drinking game... "When Jimmy does one, bruv, take a shot."

Or "any time sex or nudity is mentioned in a Jeruselem RP, take a shot." Not recommended unless you have an EMT present. :p

Mine is going to at some point turn into a political Civil war.

Mine is going to at some point turn into a political Civil war.

*In the absence of a shot glass, I drain my Yuengling and start on the next one*

The drunk alcoholic-wannabes of some country concur with this opinion...

Marvellous! Good work.

The people of this country are drinking right now.

Why would i want to use black ugh????WHY

Or "any time sex or nudity is mentioned in a Jeruselem RP, take a shot." Not recommended unless you have an EMT present. :p

I last 7 shots on that one... LOL

I last 7 shots on that one... LOL

Oddly, my last RP didn't have any sex or nudity mentioned. LOLZ

Pahleaze Are ya serious girlfriend

Take a shot whenever you recognize the anime Dancougar's RPing.
[Nightmare mode: Finish the bottle if you have a torrent of said anime on your HD]

Rejected headline: "I am Bushdome. People once called me a Newtype."

If you said After War Gundam X... take a shot!

I think that Prux is either:

A: Trying to insane his way back into the World Cup.
or
B: Trying to insane his way to a Cup of Harmony Title.
or
C: Trying to insane his way to becoming the new Raging Penguins.

Have you considered downloading an adblocker today?

Ish has mes own rulesh this World Cup.

<hic>

Every timesh an Archregimancy RP mentionsh a shaint, I takesh a shot.

<hic>

Every timesh the Holy Empire uses a word of only one syllable, I takesh a shot.

<hic>

I loves yous all!!!!!

Yous is my best mates!!!!!

<hic>

Take a shot whenever you think someone's theme would be improved by the addition of wrestling themes/storylines. [Secristan + paying people not to fight/play ala Ted Dibiase]


That's about how long it's been since I watched wrestling. But I was a big Ted DiBiase fan. Loved his act. (This probably wouldn't surprise many people here!)

Just checking: are the referees & linesmen for the qualifying matches provided solely by the competition's host nations, or are they drawn from within the entire pool of particpating nations?

Unless specifically stated otherwise, they're generally considered to be drawn from all competing nations (and, probably, former participating countries no longer involved in world football).

Caf's usually the only one who pays particular attention to such things, though there was a Referee Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551016) up during World Cup 40. :)

Unless specifically stated otherwise, they're generally considered to be drawn from all competing nations (and, probably, former participating countries no longer involved in world football).

Caf's usually the only one who pays particular attention to such things, though there was a Referee Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551016) up during World Cup 40. :)
Good. I was thinking about possibly including profiles of a ref & some linesmen (or "linesbears"... ;)) from BA, for people to use if they wanted, in one of my posts... and now I will do so.

I'm glad someone takes notes about these things

PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

EWCC REFORM VOTING

I fully expected the voters for proposal 4 to move as a block to proposal 1, thereby passing the latter.

To my surprise, that didn't happen.


For Proposal 1: 7 votes

For Proposal 3: 7 votes


Which forces me to cast a tie-breaking vote*.


Well, I'm bound to upset half of you no matter what I do, and I can't maintain my studious neutrality anymore, but at least I'm going public with it so you know who to blame.

I vote for proposal 3.

Proposal 3 therefore passes 8 votes to 7.



EWCC REFORM PROPOSAL 3:

The Emergency World Cup Committee shall be renamed the Executive World Cup Committee; their duties and functions shall remain the same.




*Note that my not voting except to break a tie is not an official WCC rule, but rather a personal policy.

So for those pages and pages or argument and discussion...

We changed a word. One word.

Not including the first letter, even.















That was so worth it!

This teaches us all the most valuable lesson of all time: Never change anything.

That was so worth it!


I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, but I think it was worth it.

Even if we didn't end up changing anything, it became clear when the issue was raised that many people felt strongly about the issue, that many were in favour of change, and that we needed a fair vote on the issue to see where opinion stood, and what people thought was the best way forward.

In the end, we discovered that opinion was essentially divided down the middle, but that - by the narrowest of margins - overall opinion favoured maintaining the status quo.

Now, imagine that I'd refused to hold a vote because I didn't feel the EWCC really needed to be reformed as much as proposal 1 was suggesting (proposal 5, for the record, was my own), and that I felt a majority - however slight - supported me on that.

As it turns out, I would have been right (though, to be honest, I'm surprised - I expected proposal 1 to win easily in the second round), but I would have ended up alienating the significant minority who supported more extensive change. Given how narrowly the vote was decided, that would have been at best counterproductive, and potentially destructive.

At least this way we've decided to maintain the status quo through a free and fair vote rather than just keeping things the way they are just because that's the way they've always been. The decision not to change has been endorsed through a democratic procedure the validity of which we all (I think) accept.

But we had to have that vote to do that.

I remain committed to holding free and fair votes on issues of substance whether I agree with the winning proposal or not, and whether the vote leads to change or not.


And historically, there's been any number of referenda across a variety of democracies that failed to pass or change anything. That doesn't mean it wasn't worth voting anyway to find out.

It still has no point. But now e're past that we can think about it even more and continue fighting although it has been somewhat settled

Incidentally, when does my WCC presidential term technically end?

I think the terms became confused slightly when Veph (quite appropriately) moved what was technically my first cup along to make sure its start wasn't bogged down by the presidential voting process.

Looks like we'll have to reintroduce the bill next term, but this time we'll add more pork!

I believe it is either at the nd of this or WC 46

Incidentally, when does my WCC presidential term technically end?

I think the terms became confused slightly when Veph (quite appropriately) moved what was technically my first cup along to make sure its start wasn't bogged down by the presidential voting process.

methinks the term should last from the first WCC-sanctioned event of the first WC edition of a term to the last WCC-sanctioned event of the last WC edition of a term. So come the time for CoH votes accordingly, we should have votes for WCC President.

Which means we should be opening up nominations right now!

Of course, this is just one grunt expressing his opinion. We don't need to vote on that now...

Incidentally, when does my WCC presidential term technically end?

I think the terms became confused slightly when Veph (quite appropriately) moved what was technically my first cup along to make sure its start wasn't bogged down by the presidential voting process.

As it turns out, it is scheduled to end following World Cup 45. So yes, I'd say Han is right, we should be looking at nominations right about now.

Oh, and thanks to Taeshan for my next RP idea :D

Oh, and thanks to Taeshan for my next RP idea :D

I'm scurred.

(That's sort of ghetto for "I'm scared.")

I'm scurred.

Why does everyone think I'm going to blow up the world whenever I say I've got RP ideas? I've only done that once! In a documentary!

Maybe they're afraid one of these days you'll accidentally press the button that sends giant football-playing manga robots to somewhere other than Dancougar?

Which forces me to cast a tie-breaking vote*.

*Note that my not voting except to break a tie is not an official WCC rule, but rather a personal policy.

Not complaining or anything, just checking the legality of said move.

The article on voting (Article V, §3) states the following: "The WCC may vote to pass any new proposal. If a new proposal contradicts an older proposal, the new proposal supercedes the old one unless otherwise stated. Passage of a new proposal shall be achieved only if the proposal receives a majority of votes from those voting. If multiple contradicting proposals concerning the same subject are considered for vote simultaneously, at least two rounds of voting must be held, with an Instant Runoff/Preferential system also fulfilling this requirement." Nothing about ties. However, this was the Novapsolu Proposal Majority Requirement, which displaced another proposal.

The other proposal, Proposal DR1, stated on the issue: "(in the case of a second round tie, the bid that received the most votes in the first round shall be declared the winner; if there is still a tie, a vote of the EWCC will be held to decide the winning bid)". This would seem the be the document that rules us, then, and Proposal 1 then wins (I think).

However, there are several problems with that approach. Firstly, the NPMR actually rewrote the article, as opposed to simply "correcting" it, so we have to go for it as opposed to DR1. Secondly, Proposal DR1 only deals with WC hosting bids (which was the reason it was re-written, I believe), so it doesn't even have any impact on this issue.

So was this legal? After a conversation over IRC, Zwang pointed out that it wasn't actually a tie - it was a tie vote wherein the president cast his vote to make it an 8-7 decision. Looking over the WCC Charter (and with a discussion with Vephrall, who knows about this stuff), the WCC charter in fact doesn't have any sort of prohibition against the president voting - in fact, according to Veph, most presidents do, without making their votes public. So, really, what Arch did was totally legal. And nice. He actually publicized his vote. That's a nice thing to do.

Two questions arise from this. Firstly, is it okay to have no policy as to what to do in the event of a tie? I'm of the opinion that it isn't. I don't have any sort of substantive argument or proposal as of now, but it's certainly an issue that needs to be addressed. Secondly, should the president be able to vote? I don't see why not. While it is true that the president has access to the votes being sent in, it's highly doubtful or unlikely that this could even *be* any sort of abuse, and plus, the people we select as presidents aren't at all the sort to abuse anything.

In conclusion, I can't see anything wrong legally, morally, or in my opinion with what Arch did. Yes, the proposal I supported lost*. It lost fair and square. The closeness of the vote tells us something about the community and the fact that we can vote on such an issue with integrity tells us more. That's all. :)

* - I didn't actually legally "support" it. I discovered I'm not in the WCC (didn't post my roster for one of these WCs), so I can't actually vote, legally. ;)

Two questions arise from this. Firstly, is it okay to have no policy as to what to do in the event of a tie? I'm of the opinion that it isn't. I don't have any sort of substantive argument or proposal as of now, but it's certainly an issue that needs to be addressed. Secondly, should the president be able to vote? I don't see why not. While it is true that the president has access to the votes being sent in, it's highly doubtful or unlikely that this could even *be* any sort of abuse, and plus, the people we select as presidents aren't at all the sort to abuse anything.


That is in fact one of the primary reasons why I choose not to vote unless there's a tie.

I could, if I was so inclined - which I'm obviously not - manipulate a close vote by voting for an option I preferred after seeing how everyone else voted.

That makes me uncomfortable.


In terms of the separate argument regarding what happens in the case of a tie, I'm also aware we have a potential problem here. In this specific case, Zwangzug is correct. The vote wasn't really a tie - it was a an 8-7 vote where I just registered my vote in public, and after everyone else had voted, and my vote only mattered because the vote was deadlocked up to that point.

In so far as there is a problem, it's a self-made one whereby I invented my own policy on how I would vote as president, then made it clear that my vote was necessary to break a deadlock in this case, and publicly declared I was doing so.


However, to avoid any similar tie-breaking confusion in the future, there are two obvious options:

1) Extend proposal DR1 to all WCC votes.

2) Formalise my personal informal policy and restrict the president's right to vote to tie breaks only.

So for those pages and pages or argument and discussion...

We changed a word. One word.

Not including the first letter, even.

<snip...dead air. O.o>

That was so worth it!

It's worse than that. Y'all (OK, six of y'all, plus myself and Arch) just voted a Krytie proposal through. ARE YOU MAD?!?!?

Also, I hereby publically nominate The Archregimancy for a second term as El Prez.

So Taeshan was in purple today....
The Emperor got concussed...

I'm out of Ginger Ale.

And Dancougar...
Godfather Reference gotten
> > > Don Quixote Reference gotten
> > > Punk' D Reference gotten.
> > > Simpsons Reference gotten.

...I'm going to need to buy another bottle of Smirnoff tomorrow...

10 Achievement points gotten. [what you took this seriously!]

Also: Underage drinking is very bad.

In retrospect, I shouldn't have tried to do this ith 100 proff Smirnoff.

While dissapointed that Prop 1 (and for that matter prop 2 from the 1st vote) didn't pass, I will abide by the decsion. And eagerly await the re-submission of the proposal after WC 45 is done.

blarb...

whence dost my WCC charter venture thus these past days and weeks now, good sir?

Sorry about the sudden movement to go to Pyeonyang it was kinda like im rping it already and i had to say something

1,5000 Baby Other post thats 3 times 500 and and thats 33.33 post per a world cup(counting all 45)

1,5000 Baby Other post thats 3 times 500 and and thats 33.33 post per a world cup(counting all 45)

15,000 posts in a thread that hardly has 9,000?!? :eek2:

Quite impressive!

Also impressive is bending the rules of math in NS! *wishes he had a Taeshani math textbook in elementary school*

No i added a 0 and we don't have textboks in Taeshan anyways. And i meant 1500 overall and i have 246 on this thread including this. We have electronic learning in Taeshan more hightech i hate reading my Honors geo textbook.

and we don't have textboks in Taeshan anyways.

I finally get it now.

While dissapointed that Prop 1 (and for that matter prop 2 from the 1st vote) didn't pass, I will abide by the decsion. And eagerly await the re-submission of the proposal after WC 45 is done.

We had a vote, and then we had a run off vote. A decision was reached through the voting process, and yet you can't accept it? Don't give me that, I will abide by the decision, because you are being hypocritical by stating that you, or someone else will resubmit the proposal. Again, just build the bridge, then get over it!

Why a “4" crossed the fence and voted for “3" and not “1":

– My favorite part of proposal 4 was the “trim the fat” section of it. There are eligible voters that really should not have a say in how things are run anymore, in my opinion. Spaam’s appearance in the pre-WC44 discussion is the clincher that why for me, some of these people have moved on and should not have “special privileges.”

– Slightly extended the restriction of WCC to nations that had a roster in the last three as opposed to the last two. Someone who has posted a roster in the last three is generally someone that can be considered “presently interested” in the way things work.

– Proposal 1 did not the “trim the fat”.

– Proposal 1 did not completely define the new structure of the EWCC, and just sets up another vote.

– Less importantly but.... the name of the clause in proposal 3 was the “Newmanistan clause”, after all. The new name does fit better.

Ideally, I would have voted for a proposal that allows for WCC members to vote for CoH hosts, but can leave the BoF to the EWCC.


To sum it up, even though they came to Tundra Falls and won, I second the nomination for a second term as WCC President for The Archregimancy.

I finally get it now.

dE loly kant-weed-buks guys agwee!

dE loly kant-weed-buks guys agwee!

wat?

The NSWC Drinking Game!

It'll get ya drunk!

You'll be lamping fat women in no time, mmm MMM!

And Dancougar...
Godfather Reference gotten
> > > Don Quixote Reference gotten
> > > Punk' D Reference gotten.
> > > Simpsons Reference gotten.

...I'm going to need to buy another bottle of Smirnoff tomorrow...

10 Achievement points gotten. [what you took this seriously!]

Very nice. You're still missing the one that made IC me finish the bottle ^_^

Very nice. You're still missing the one that made IC me finish the bottle ^_^

The Zanbatou whatchamacallit? I have no idea, I just started watching anime like 3 months ago.

Qazox, while I'm not convinced that it's illegal to hold another vote on the same issue one cup after it's been voted on, it's highly undemocratic and very sore loserish. It's what Hugo Chavez would do/has done. And really, we don't need to become some kind of system where failed votes keep getting re-proposed in the hopes of getting it passed. I'd like to wait at least one full presidential term, if that at all, before seeing this reproposed if it has to be.

Qazox, while I'm not convinced that it's illegal to hold another vote on the same issue one cup after it's been voted on, it's highly undemocratic and very sore loserish. It's what Hugo Chavez would do/has done. And really, we don't need to become some kind of system where failed votes keep getting re-proposed in the hopes of getting it passed. I'd like to wait at least one full presidential term, if that at all, before seeing this reproposed if it has to be.

One full presidential term is about to end...

unless you mean "wait until WC48"...

EDIT>>>

wat?

dE loly kant-weed-buks guys agwee!

The lowly can't-read-books people agree!

And 7 shots later, I realize my liver might not be ready to handle this assault.

Yay for alcohol.

It's weird I posted my multi-colour RP straight after Taeshan's two again.

On another note in an attempt to make ourselves look bad by nominating someone lots disagree with i will nominate Qazox for President. Wait for it...

We had a vote, and then we had a run off vote. A decision was reached through the voting process, and yet you can't accept it? Don't give me that, I will abide by the decision, because you are being hypocritical by stating that you, or someone else will resubmit the proposal. Again, just build the bridge, then get over it!

Did you actually read what I said? 'cause I think you're reading a little too much into it, ESF.

1st statement: Dissapointment that the Proposals I wanted to go through didn't.

2nd statement: I will abide by the decsion, whether or not I like it, AND I ACCEPT IT.

3rd statement: Someone probably will bring this up again after this world cup (if not sooner), and I eagerly await the disscussion. I never explictly said that I would bring it back up for disscussion (though it could be implied that I might).

Hope that cleared it up for you a bit.

And Taeshan, HELL NO!
To paraphrase history: If Nominated, I refuse to run, If elected, I refuse to serve.

Qazox, while I'm not convinced that it's illegal to hold another vote on the same issue one cup after it's been voted on, it's highly undemocratic and very sore loserish. It's what Hugo Chavez would do/has done. And really, we don't need to become some kind of system where failed votes keep getting re-proposed in the hopes of getting it passed. I'd like to wait at least one full presidential term, if that at all, before seeing this reproposed if it has to be.

I never explictly stated "QAZOX WANTS HIS PROPOSAL UP FOR A VOTE, AGAIN ASAP DAMMIT!" or any variations thereof.

Just was stating that someone, might put forth a proposal, better stated, better worded, whatever; that basically incorporates what the reforms that we just voted upon and rejected; and maybe that person will propose it within the next RL month or so.

Jeez. I act like an A-hole and get chewed out, I act considerate and get chewed out, I apologize and get chewed out, I accept things and get chewed out. :confused::confused:

In that case as a Taeshani nomination is usually rejected we nominate Candelaria

Dancougar News!!
Keiichi Maebara is my hero.

Kosovoe go from hunters to Helen Hunted
Wings hit the road via Albuquerque:
Rubber chickens found floating in Kishin:
She said, "Don't make others suffer through your own personal references":

* Throws in teh towel.* "No Mas, por favor."

How does one get on the WCC in the first place?

How does one get on the WCC in the first place?

post 2 rosters for 2 consecutive World Cups.

post 2 rosters for 2 consecutive World Cups.

Ohh, done that!

Curious if there are any international coaches out there who would be interested in the Newmanistanian head coaching job. We may be very, very close to letting Mr. Carson go. If anyone from your country would have interest, please TG me their resume.

whence dost my WCC charter venture thus these past days and weeks now, good sir?

Prithee, good sir, 'tis to be made publick for all gentlefellows to peruse in a nonce.

Goodwife Archregimancy hast travelled to meet her Slav cousins in the land of Poles for a few days, and Doctor Archregimancy therefore hast time to meet his other obligations in coming days.

Though he regrets to note this Lenten season that he may be most blaphemously forced to engage with your own good work on the Lord's Day.


Translated for those who don't want to struggle with cod-Elizabethan.... With the recent EWCC vote out of the way, I should be able to make Han's work on the WCC rules charter available over the weekend.


And while suitably humble at the public presidential nominations that have already come my way, I won't be formally calling for nominations until the weekend either.

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, but I think it was worth it.

My issue is less with the lengthy process and more with its useless outcome and the reasoning behind it.

The arguments were basically to change the system of the WCC/EWCC, or not to change it - particularly not 'just for the sake of it', a comment I've heard a few times over this.

I would suggest that a good number of those who voted for the passed resolution were of the 'not for the sake of it' camp. Which is fairly ironic, in that in order to vote against systematic change for the sake of it, they've voted for nomenclature change.


Just for the sake of it. *golfclap*

Peisandros

What is a good way to contact you about NSWC stuff?

Scorination will be a little late today.

I never explictly stated "QAZOX WANTS HIS PROPOSAL UP FOR A VOTE, AGAIN ASAP DAMMIT!" or any variations thereof.

Just was stating that someone, might put forth a proposal, better stated, better worded, whatever; that basically incorporates what the reforms that we just voted upon and rejected; and maybe that person will propose it within the next RL month or so.

Jeez. I act like an A-hole and get chewed out, I act considerate and get chewed out, I apologize and get chewed out, I accept things and get chewed out. :confused::confused:
Chill, Q.

LE, alas, does have a tendency to have a shorter fuse than some. That, coupled with the slightly ambiguous wording, got a bit ugly.

Personally, I doubt the Executive WCC (thanks again, Newmanistan!) debate will be brought up again until at least WC47/48. Mainly due to the amount of debate and vote that came through.

My issue is less with the lengthy process and more with its useless outcome and the reasoning behind it.

The arguments were basically to change the system of the WCC/EWCC, or not to change it - particularly not 'just for the sake of it', a comment I've heard a few times over this.

I would suggest that a good number of those who voted for the passed resolution were of the 'not for the sake of it' camp. Which is fairly ironic, in that in order to vote against systematic change for the sake of it, they've voted for nomenclature change.


Just for the sake of it. *golfclap*
Well, it was a redundant name, and was effectively the "no change" option, with a slight tweak.

Ohh, done that!
Welcome, new WCCer! Please help yourelf to punch and pie.

Qazox, while I'm not convinced that it's illegal to hold another vote on the same issue one cup after it's been voted on, it's highly undemocratic and very sore loserish. It's what Hugo Chavez would do/has done. And really, we don't need to become some kind of system where failed votes keep getting re-proposed in the hopes of getting it passed. I'd like to wait at least one full presidential term, if that at all, before seeing this reproposed if it has to be.That's reasonable. Maybe we should write & try to pass an actual rule saying that a rejected proposal can't be re-submitted until three more World Cups have been completed -- or a proposal with different wording but substantively the same meaning, 'substantively' to be judged by the President (with a right of appeal to the EWCC?) or EWCC -- either... Yes? No? "Too bureaucratic"?

Welcome, new WCCer! Please help yourelf to punch and pie.Ooh, "Done that" too... Can join the party? ;)

Welcome, new WCCer! Please help yourelf to punch and pie.

I've got the Punch *punches Kry*

AND ... I've got the pie (but no for long as it's delicious... MMhhhmmmmm, Pie)

Is it... Moderately Cold Pie? Cause I like Moderately Cold Pie.

On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the cows go bong
and the monkey's all say 'BOO!'
There's a Nong Nang Ning
Where the Trees go PING!
and the Teapots Jibber-Jabber-joo
On the Nong Ning Nang
all the mice go clang
and you just can't catch them when they do!
So it's the Ning Nang Nong
cows go bong
Nong Nang Ning
trres go Ping
Nong Ning Nang
Mice go clang
What a Noisy place to belong.
Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!

- Spike Mulligan

Peisandros

What is a good way to contact you about NSWC stuff?

Telegrams are probably the best.

To which you don't quite respond frequently.

Not that I have any open issues with you, but it took you about two weeks to react to me once :P

Ooh, "Done that" too... Can join the party? ;)

Yup. Punch, pie, er....thataway.

We might even have salmon mousse - but you might want to give it a miss.

Telegrams are probably the best.

You've got mail!

PS>>> Don't eat the salmon mousse. It's poisoned!

PSS>>> Actually, that was the punch... but anyway, it still tastes bad. Have some crackers!

You've got mail!

PS>>> Don't eat the salmon mousse. It's poisoned!

PSS>>> Actually, that was the punch... but anyway, it still tastes bad. Have some crackers!
NO! NOT THE CRACKERS!

(They're cursed, you know.)

NO! NOT THE CRACKERS!

(They're cursed, you know.)

it's better to have the cursed crackers than the poisoned punch, you know...

I'm sure East Africa would have rather dealt with the Poisoned Punch, instead of the cursed crackers.

To which you don't quite respond frequently.

Not that I have any open issues with you, but it took you about two weeks to react to me once :P

Really? My bad, haha. I'm much better now, promise. :)

I can't eat the salmon mousse right now anyway - fish is banned during Orthodox Lent.


PRESIDENTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS


With apologies, I haven't been able to devote as much time to NS as I thought this weekend.

In RL, I edit the newsletter of my main international professional society on a volunteer basis, and it's sort of taken over my weekend.

But there are a couple of important items that I'd like to move along ASAP. I apologise for not taking care of these in the Presidential Announcements thread, but one of these belongs there, and the other doesn't, and I'm just trying to save myself a bit of time.

These are:

1 - WCC PRESIDENT NOMINATIONS

My term ends at the conclusion of this Cup. Nominations for the post of WCC president are therefore open.

Rules:
- You can only nominate one person
- You cannot nominate yourself
- Only people with 2 nominations will progress to the next stage of Presidential selection.

All members of the WCC are eligible to make a nomination. That includes: everyone who's posted a roster in WCs 45 and 44, and all former WC hosts.

Normally, I'd provide you with a list of eligible voters, but I've simply run out of time tonight. I will, however, provide that full list when it comes time to vote, rather than nominate.

My apologies for any inconvenience caused by this, but yes, Peisandros and Bears Armed, you can make a nomination if you want to.

I will be doublechecking that nations making nominations are eligible, but I'll turn a blind eye if anyone posts a WC45 roster between now and the nominations deadline to make sure they're eligible.

The deadline for nominations is 18:00 UK time, Wednesday 11 March.
Please note that clocks don't change around the world at the same time for daylight saving time. If I'm correct, US clocks have changed, but UK ones haven't - keep that in mind for the deadline!

And, after some reflection, I will accept my name going forward for a second term if people are kind enough to want to nominate me.

Please send nominations to either the Archregimancy or Alasdair I Frosticus. Public nominations in this thread will be accepted, and I'll go back and track down the three (which I think stand at 2 for me, and 1 for C&M) already made here.


2 - CUP OF HARMONY BIDS

We're now almost halfway through qualifying, and I'd like to hold the WCC president and CoH host votes simultaneously - so right now would be a good time to start finalising and posting any CoH host bids you might be thinking about.

Oh, and I assume that Jeru knows what happened to the real life Kingdom of Jerusalem under the real Henry II of Lusignan.

Not worried about the precedent, I take it ;)

Like i said until further notice i am putting up a nomination for Calendara, further ntoice means until he says no. Like Q did.

which I think stand at 2 for me, and 1 for C&M

?!?!?!

Like i said until further notice i am putting up a nomination for Calendara, further ntoice means until he says no. Like Q did.

No! No! A thousand times no!
You cannot buy my caress!
No! No! A thousand times no!
I'd rather die than say yes!

The next bit would involve Taeshan stealing me from my boudoir and tying me to the railway track, but you get the general idea.

The next bit would involve Taeshan stealing me from my boudoir and tying me to the railway track, but you get the general idea.

I bet the soundtrack to your life is done by a guy going nuts, ragtime style, on a piano.

I bet the soundtrack to your life is done by a guy going nuts, ragtime style, on a piano.

Bohemian Rhapsody?

Not unless that was part of The Sting, no.

I would endorse C&M, if only he wouldn't kill me if I would.

I bet the soundtrack to your life is done by a guy going nuts, ragtime style, on a piano.

This is so true.

On that note we will abstain for a while on our vote to see who else is nominated.

NO! NOT THE CRACKERS!

(They're cursed, you know.)

Could be worse. You could have some homemade hard tack and salt pork.

Staples of the Sarzonian diet. :p







Sarzonian prisoners of war, that is.

Oh, and I assume that Jeru knows what happened to the real life Kingdom of Jerusalem under the real Henry II of Lusignan.

Not worried about the precedent, I take it ;)

I know ... actually he was really Henry I of Cyprus and the title of King of Jerusalem was just a title by then. Actually I've got one of his coins being shipped to me after I won it on eBAY.

Qazox, as stated before, will throw its hat into the CoH hosting ring.

Link here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14586147#post14586147

Someone motivate me to want to come back for WC46, please. I've seen you all do it for others. What more do I need to be doing, really, because RPing after every matchday for 5 1/2 Cups obviouslly is not the answer? Not only am I not going to qualify, this record will set me back 2 or 3 more Cups. I need a pep talk.

Someone motivate me to want to come back for WC46, please. I've seen you all do it for others. What more do I need to be doing, really, because RPing after every matchday for 5 1/2 Cups obviouslly is not the answer? Not only am I not going to qualify, this record will set me back 2 or 3 more Cups. I need a pep talk.

I'm blaming Maggie ... noticed Milchama has 7-0-0 record and he's not exactly active.

I'm blaming Maggie ... noticed Milchama has 7-0-0 record and he's not exactly active.

I know its the randomness and know that I am not being cheated by hosts. It's more of a desire to keep dealing with this issue for me at this point.

I know its the randomness and know that I am not being cheated by hosts. It's more of a desire to keep dealing with this issue for me at this point.

I know you will qualify. I mean Jeruselem and Jeru FC had to wait 7 attempts until it happened. You just need that lucky break at the right time.

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I know its the randomness and know that I am not being cheated by hosts. It's more of a desire to keep dealing with this issue for me at this point.

Unless I actually start scoring some goals on the road, I'm the odd man out in the group of death. So join me, and together we will rule the galax... Cup of Harmony as fa... the guy with the Bird on Skates and the guy who continues to fail at winning back the Bird on Skates!!

I'd of though Group 7 was the G.O.D. this time around. (5 teams that could qualify, Star, Kry, THE, GW and Dariusville..., But Group 6 looks tough too.

I've thought since the outset that Group 6 was the only potential Group of Death, and it's proving true halfway through.

Unless I actually start scoring some goals on the road, I'm the odd man out in the group of death. So join me, and together we will rule the galax... Cup of Harmony as fa... the guy with the Bird on Skates and the guy who continues to fail at winning back the Bird on Skates!!

You'll probably make it, (though ICly i hope you don't!)

Group 8 is pretty fucking brutal. Just listing the teams ahead of Sarzonia's No. 56 ranking:

No. 3 Cafundéu
No. 21 Sorthern Northland
No. 33 Terreiro de Ogum
No. 36 Yafalonia and Bazor 2

Add in Quintessence of Dust, a team that did pretty decently as an unranked side last Cup and you have a tough group in its own right.

Someone motivate me to want to come back for WC46, please. I've seen you all do it for others. What more do I need to be doing, really, because RPing after every matchday for 5 1/2 Cups obviously is not the answer? Not only am I not going to qualify, this record will set me back 2 or 3 more Cups. I need a pep talk.

Been there! Sometimes it’s just how those numbers fall. But Jeruselem’s spot on, that lucky break will come. After 4 or 5 (it’s been a while, I forget) of utter mediocrity the Hyppos got drawn in a qualification group full of non-rpers and managed to scrape a place in the main event. Lost every group game mind. But baby steps . . .

And judging by your sig the sporting gods haven’t been entirely unkind. ;)

I'd of though Group 7 was the G.O.D. this time around. (5 teams that could qualify, Star, Kry, THE, GW and Dariusville..., But Group 6 looks tough too.

Group 1 might not be the group of death but a skilled necromancer is needed to revive the Autocracy’s chances.

I got a qual group full of non-rpers and probably still won't make it. Well not full but when you're one of the only three teams in the group to put up a roster, have the 4th spot in the group, and will probably wend up in 5th place...

*shrugs*

I think all groups are pretty hard if you're in fourth to eighth place...

I think all groups are pretty hard if you're in fourth to eighth place...

Maybe. There seems to be a definite wall you hit between 65th and 40th. Once you get above that you seemingly should qualify into the cup proper, below that you can move up through Rping and up of Harmony runs.

Also, I'm up at 3:30 in the morning because a nightmare wrecked my chance of sleeping.

Maybe. There seems to be a definite wall you hit between 65th and 40th. Once you get above that you seemingly should qualify into the cup proper, below that you can move up through Rping and up of Harmony runs.

Also, I'm up at 3:30 in the morning because a nightmare wrecked my chance of sleeping.

Hmm. I semi missed that wall, lol. But at 35th I'm struggling too! All part of the deal though and I didn't experience it first time round, so it's only fair I guess.

Fuck I dislike nightmares.

First of all, to Newmanistan:

Please stick it out. I know how frustrating it can be, really I do (some here may remember my brief moment of despair when the Archregimancy slipped from a top 10 team to a mid-thirties team that couldn't even win the Cup of Harmony when it was ranked 20 spots above any other team in the latter tournament), but you make a valuable contribution, and I think you're one of those nations we'd really miss if you let that frustration get the better of you.

It may be small consolation to know that you're not the first nation to have struggled to qualify, but at least - after all of these years, and with the original rather ironically participating again - we finally, genuinely, have our new Hypocria ;)


Secondly, a presidential quandry:

As of right now, I'm the only person to receive any nominations to be WCC president, which is either a resounding endorsement of your sitting president, or an indication of total apathy on the part of the WCC.

So what happens if there's only one nominee for WCC president? I'm not so worried about the vote, as I can ask VP Zwangzug to run a Soviet-style 'do you approve of the sole nominee' election if I am the only nominee. I'm more worried about what we do for a WCC vice-president, a position chosen by who gets the second largest number of votes. It's not a post we use much, but it does have some important informal duties - like collating votes in elections where the president might be a candidate.

For my part, it's not apathy. I just haven't decided whom I would endorse/nominate. I'm hoping that someone will nominate Zwangzug for a second run, and that she will accept it. But some people who I'd like to nominate have vocally stated that they wouldn't run if nominated... so that's a tough pickle to chew...

But rest assured, I will make a nomination in due time.

@ Newmanistan:

I think now is the time to remember two things:

There are countless great RPers who never qualify for the World Cup, mostly because they never try. They quit because they can't see the satisfaction of RPing for its sake. And I'll confess, it gets quite difficult after a while, some 15 cups in a row of not qualifying (something of which I've never had the misfortune of suffering), that you'll start to lose the focus. The most important thing to do is to keep trying. I hope I don't need to quote Edison to convince you to try again, because it really is work, but you shouldn't be frustrated over it. If you're still finding personal dissatisfaction, I'd encourage you to read some of the RPs that make you laugh and cry (well, maybe not...). If you can't get some satisfaction from that, I'm not sure if there is much else to convince you to continue gracing us with your RPs.

Oh, and point number 2: Newmanistan historically has a great track record in the second half of qualification, so don't give up yet!

On my part, I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. I mean, I guess I am entitled to vote right? I just have no idea who wants it, would be good at it etc.

It may be small consolation to know that you're not the first nation to have struggled to qualify, but at least - after all of these years, and with the original rather ironically participating again - we finally, genuinely, have our new Hypocria ;)

Pfft, with a BoF win, a Di Bradini Win and two CoH wins. Good sir, I think not. ;)

On my part, I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. I mean, I guess I am entitled to vote right? I just have no idea who wants it, would be good at it etc.

You are entitled to vote, and you're entitled to make a nomination, too.

As a relative newcomer, you may not be as familiar with everyone as those who've been around a while, but you surely read the discussion thread enough to have gained a feel for whom you might think makes constructive contributions to this thread.

If you're worried about embarrassment through nominating the wrong person, don't be. If you want to make a private nomination, all you have to do is TG me, and I'm the only person who'll ever know who you nominated - it's not as if I'm going to come here and write 'OMG - Peisandros nominated Brazillico LOLZ!!!!'


And let me clearly state to everyone, for the record, that it doesn't matter to me if you want to nominate someone other than myself. There are several excellent potential candidates out there. I might not even vote for myself - I didn't last time. If anyone does have any strong objections to sending me a nomination, however, then by all means send it to the VP (Zwangzug) instead.

Pfft, with a BoF win, a Di Bradini Win and two CoH wins. Good sir, I think not. ;)

You're right.... come to think of it, he's won more than I have, and I've been trying a hell of lot longer than he has!

For my part, it's not apathy. I just haven't decided whom I would endorse/nominate. I'm hoping that someone will nominate Zwangzug for a second run, and that she will accept it.

Easily done.

The Archregimancy nominates current WCC V-P Zwangzug for the position of WCC president.



Edit:

Rather than make a fourth consecutive post....

"80 minutes ago: The Confused Identities of Yafalonia and Bazor 2 ceased to exist."

Someone motivate me to want to come back for WC46, please. I've seen you all do it for others. What more do I need to be doing, really, because RPing after every matchday for 5 1/2 Cups obviouslly is not the answer? Not only am I not going to qualify, this record will set me back 2 or 3 more Cups. I need a pep talk.
Obviously you need to field a team of BEARS...
;)

Edit:

Rather than make a fourth consecutive post....

"80 minutes ago: The Confused Identities of Yafalonia and Bazor 2 ceased to exist."

Fixing that up immediately....

and fixed...

Group 8 is pretty fucking brutal. Just listing the teams ahead of Sarzonia's No. 56 ranking:

No. 3 Cafundéu
No. 21 Sorthern Northland
No. 33 Terreiro de Ogum
No. 36 Yafalonia and Bazor 2

Add in Quintessence of Dust, a team that did pretty decently as an unranked side last Cup and you have a tough group in its own right.


If I may, how about Group 2 as a part of this conversation. If it ended right now, Group 2 would see both its 2nd and 3rd overall seeds not qualify, and Greal & I would be happy to make that work. I don't think there is any other group like that!

Someone motivate me to want to come back for WC46, please. I've seen you all do it for others. What more do I need to be doing, really, because RPing after every matchday for 5 1/2 Cups obviouslly is not the answer? Not only am I not going to qualify, this record will set me back 2 or 3 more Cups. I need a pep talk.

RPing after every matchday for five and a half Cups won me precisely nothing, first time around (WC15 onwards). Admittedly I qualified for the World Cup on my third try, but my little upstart nation was trophyless on the international stage for ten tournaments. You, however, have won three different tournaments (that, I might add, I've never won myself), one of which is mine, another choked in my only shot at, while the third (that you've also won twice) I've never got past the group stage and it will take a humongous slide in Starblaydi fortunes before a fourth attempt to win that particular one comes around.

If your mission was to make a splash, you've done it. If your mission was to lift many and varied bits of silverware, you've done it. If your mission is to be well-known among the community for your RPs, your style, your nation's football, you've done it. If your mission is to qualify for the World Cup - and then do so regularly, you've not done it yet.

Three out of four ain't bad in just five cups.



On a less pep talky and more constructive point, your RPs seem to me to be, in general, all pretty much the same. God knows I've done more extensive match reports and previews than most on these forums, but I've got to the point when I almost can't be bothered to actually describe the build-up to each goal, as there are only so many different 'realistic' variations on "the ball went into the net".

Basically, my advice is mix it up a little before you get sick of it. Match reports and previews will always be the staple diet of the sports RPer, but there is so much more if you take a sideways glance at the results thread - or even barely notice it.

The mini-storyline I began and then dropped at the beginning of this Cup (a super-worm that wiped out computer records) to mirror my Mac appearing to die was one example, the off-field tales of Lex Panarii re-inventing the Starblaydi Raiigar in the BoF in WC38 was another. The randomness of a rag-tag band of commandos from Nova Britannicus (a puppet of mine) searching for some genetically-modified 'Dead-eyed peas' (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Dead-eyed_peas) from Spruitland to make their strikers better at shooting during WC23 Qualifiers was one of my favourites, as the links to football were tenuous at best but the RP itself was a lot of fun.

Your creative juices were obviously flowing when you came up with West Newmanistan to provide another political dimension to your national team(s), so see where that takes you and what you can come up with to suit. There's space for political thrillers, horror stories, romantic comedies, irritating giant robots and god damn it even football in a World Cup RP, so pick what you like and write around it.

Of course if all you like is writing about your national teams fortunes and Empress Jessica, then... hmmm... have a sinister yes-man advisor encourage her to run the team herself (or at least in an overseer Roman Abramovich at Chelsea style) and see where that takes you for a couple of Cups. If it works out, you'll perfectly integrate the two things that your write about the most and, if it doesn't, then there's a whole new dimension to politics and sport in Newmanistan. Or do something completely different based on plots/characters/situations in your favourite book, film, series, poem, universe, whatever. There's so much more than "X scored in the Y minute via Z method", you just need to find it.

Before you end up doing this:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/Starblayde/2mza8b8.gif

BAAS -- the 'Bears Armed Association for Soccer -- nominates Dancougar for the WCC presidency.

Basically, my advice is mix it up a little before you get sick of it. Match reports and previews will always be the staple diet of the sports RPer, but there is so much more if you take a sideways glance at the results thread - or even barely notice it.

That's something I'm also trying in my second World Cup back from my hiatus. Not that I *can't* write the sort of match reports I've done, but I wanted to vary things a little. Taking the human angle of a manager who's with a rebuilding team and watching said team fail to meet expectations is something I wanted to try.

On the more pep talk angle of Newmanistan's performance in the World Cup, it sometimes takes a while before a nation can not only qualify, but do so consistently. I was fortunate in that I competed in (and won) a Baptism of Fire Cup in my first go at World Cup play.

Then I missed qualifying for the Finals proper by one match in each of my first three World Cups. I was fortunate to win the Cup of Harmony in my third time competing in that tournament. It took my fourth before I finally advanced. Then it took two World Cup finals of being the whipping boy of the group before I went through to the second round. It took a total of seven World Cups before I won the title.

It can be frustrating sometimes when your team's fortunes don't go the way you'd like or you'd expect. I'm staring at fifth place in my group, which objectively is probably where I *should* be since Sarzonia is the fifth highest ranked team in its group. It fits more with my originally intended theme of "rebuilding" than Sarzonia's performance in the last World Cup qualifying campaign did.

*an old, tattered green-blue-green tricolor flag with a bright green sixteen-toothed gear in the center slowly rises in the background*

Yep, I'm going to add my voice to all those saying "it'll come eventually."

I'll admit I can't really identify that much with Newmanistan's current situation. Vephrall qualified in its fourth attempt, automatically due to being a host (my original intention had been to wait until I'd qualified "naturally" before actually hosting, but as we all know hosts have been in fairly short supply the last several Cups). And as for my first time around, I qualified on my first try. Then again, we only had 64 nations trying to get in back then and I had the fortune of starting out in the "compressed-rank" World Cup 5, where new guys like myself enjoyed a #45 ranking. :p

But I do know what the drought is like. Yes, I qualified in my first Cup, and my second, and my third, and indeed all of my first twenty-eight except for my seventh (during which I was ranked #6 - talk about bad luck).

It did, however, take me seventeen tries to finally win the Cup.

I know, of course, there's a big difference between winning the World Cup and merely qualifying for it. But the feeling is the same; it feels like it's just never going to happen, no matter what you do.

But, as long as you're having fun, stick with it. Success will come eventually.

And if you aren't having fun...well, like Star said, mix it up a bit. I know that I, for one, don't write very many standard match reports these days because I got burned out from doing that for literally years on end. (Okay, admittedly, I don't write much of anything at the moment, but I'm blaming that on a downright oppressive workload here in my final semester of college.) Like they say, variety is the spice of life. :)

Thanks to everyone for giving me the needed pep talk. I appreciate you all taking the time to try and pick up a discouraged competitor.

A couple things I went to mention, a couple references to things I have won in other competitions.... this is actually part of the reason I am wondering if I should bother continuing here because I feel I have found a nice niche for myself particularly in the World Baseball Classic and the World Bowl.

I haven’t given up on this World Cup, but I have to be honest, the start slow and come on strong gets a little old after a while. For once if I have to fail to qualify, can I start strong and then choke? Perhaps too I think too long term. It’s not just failing to qualify for this one it’s the effect that this will then have on future Cups and rankings...... ugh.

Star, thanks for your advice. I know I’ve gotten repetitive to a degree, probably a large degree and I blame two things for this. One being my huge spreadsheet which I have created that has all kinds of statistics for my team (though not updated since WC44), where I keep track of nearly everything one can think of. I think this has made me get more into “better note the goal scorers, when they happened, blah, blah, etc.” frame of mind. Secondly, lately I do a lot of my RP at night (usually the only time I can now) when I am tired and have things on my mind other then thinking of how to mix it up, so I just end up writing another summary. You’re right that West Newmanistan was an attempt to do something different but that hasn’t really panned out in the way I was hoping.

(Okay, admittedly, I don't write much of anything at the moment, but I'm blaming that on a downright oppressive workload here in my final semester of college.)

Other people go to college. You go to Georgia Tech.

There is a difference. :p

Newmanistan, hope you do stick around for World Cup football. It's fun to see a competitor who reminds me a little bit of my first go at the World Cup.

Star, thanks for your advice. I know I’ve gotten repetitive to a degree, probably a large degree and I blame two things for this. One being my huge spreadsheet which I have created that has all kinds of statistics for my team (though not updated since WC44), where I keep track of nearly everything one can think of. I think this has made me get more into “better note the goal scorers, when they happened, blah, blah, etc.” frame of mind.

My spreadsheet is one of the reasons why I'm still here, because until the entire nation is glassed by some random alliance of aggressors, it'll never, ever end. Because I have every result (and every Starblaydi goalscorer) of every Starblaydi match ever (which is now some 120 years worth of competition), there's to much history for me to just... stop.

If I ever do (again) ten billion voices will scream in the back of my mind, waving some fourteen trophies amongst their purple banners to say "What about us?!". So, to summarise, the spreadsheet is a hugley useful tool, but can also be a cruel mistress.

I also appreciate the slight irony of three posters with 9 World Cup titles between them telling you to stick at it because it'll happen for you. The people to look at, really, are the Archregimancys, the Krytenias and Bazalonias, the Jeruselems or Septentrionias, your Kura Pellands and even your Taeshans. They stick at it without being top of the world and without being able to write even as many of the 'Champions!' sort of RPs as you've got yourself.

The reason they do it, I'd wager, is because it's fun, and because they'd miss us all. Sorta

So, to summarise the summary, stick at it and enjoy it.

I'd say the Newmanistan national football team, ICly, are not quite at the level where they can enter the World's top-32 and prestige tournament on a regular basis. Someone of the ilk of Russia, Israel, Colombia, Nigeria or Australia. Unquestionably not a bad team, but just needing that one superstar or great coach for them to kick on and break into that elite.

Once you're there, who knows where it might end up?

I also appreciate the slight irony of three posters with 9 World Cup titles between them telling you to stick at it because it'll happen for you.

Two of them have eight of the nine titles, though. Wanker. :p

Two of them have eight of the nine titles, though. Wanker. :p

And who's fault is that for not keeping up? :p

I nominate Starblaydia for the position of WCC President.

There's no scores coming out today right? Just gotta make double sure.

There is the MQFs, but no official matches.

I nominate Starblaydia for the position of WCC President.

I second this nomination.

post 2 rosters for 2 consecutive World Cups.

Wait a minute ... don't you mean post a roster in each of two consecutive World Cups?

If so, I've got a WCC vote again. And all of you are DOOMED! LOL

I nominate Starblaydia for the position of WCC President.

I second this nomination.

I also second it. So, third it I suppose.

I also second it. So, third it I suppose.

If I'm eligible, I fourth the nomination.

I also appreciate the slight irony of three posters with 9 World Cup titles between them telling you to stick at it because it'll happen for you. The people to look at, really, are the Archregimancys, the Krytenias and Bazalonias, the Jeruselems or Septentrionias, your Kura Pellands and even your Taeshans. They stick at it without being top of the world and without being able to write even as many of the 'Champions!' sort of RPs as you've got yourself.

Er...thanks, I think.

In summary: Been here as long as El Purple there, played in as many World Cups, played many other tournaments...and, check the sig, I've won precisely zip.

Nada.

Zilch.

I quit for a while, the creative juices left me...but I was sucked back in.

Trust me, if you leave, there'll be that little voice saying "go back, go back..." and you will. Look at me, Star, KP, Sarz, Arch, and Hypocria...hell, even Errinundera's back in the football groove!

Stick with it, it'll happen for you. And when it does, make it happen for me too. Please? :D

Wait a minute ... don't you mean post a roster in each of two consecutive World Cups?

If so, I've got a WCC vote again. And all of you are DOOMED! LOL

Yeah, that's what I meant, really, I think, maybe.

Also, due to inadequacies (sic) found in the scorinator i have, Qazox withdraws its bid for CoH host for this upcoming tourney.

Sarz, where's Rymeria paying at this time?

Sarz, where's Rymeria paying at this time?

Government Park (unless your hotels play Kellie Pickler as hold music. :p)

Government Park (unless your hotels play Kellie Pickler as hold music. :p)

You must have missed the RP from the first meeting between the teams. :p

They've upgraded to Charley Pride.

You must have missed the RP from the first meeting between the teams. :p

They've upgraded to Charley Pride.

Gretchen Wilson or Miranda Lambert and you're talking. :p

Just here for a sec to apologize for the lack of RP's during this cup, am an actor going through the Techthrough period of a show, and as such have absolutely no time for anything at all, including eat, sleep, breathe, use the bathroom, sneeze, have friends, have a life, see my girlfriend, do work, or RP on nationstates. Unfortunately this will continue for the next week and a little, and then I'll be able to RP for a couple of weeks, before yet another show takes over every facet of my life.

Regards,
Myedvedeya

Gretchen Wilson or Miranda Lambert and you're talking. :p

I'm sure if they looked like Roseanne Barr you wouldn't feel the same about them.

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BAAS -- the 'Bears Armed Association for Soccer -- nominates Dancougar for the WCC presidency.

Maybe after I've hosted more than a Bof and CoH... still a little too green behind the ears. So I must decline, respectful... LEE.

I'm sure if they looked like Roseanne Barr you wouldn't feel the same about them.

Gretchen Wilson isn't a knockout. Granted, she doesn't look like Ro-zilla, but still.

Their looks don't hurt, but I really like their music. Certainly a lot better than that cheap little vixen's. :p

If you say so. I have no idea honestly, I just like looking at Miranda Lambert on mute.

Valanora 3–0 Ad’ihan
Valanora 3–0 Kura-Pelland
Valanora 2–0 Starblaydia

Kuu = The Special One? :o

Easily done.

The Archregimancy nominates current WCC V-P Zwangzug for the position of WCC president.

I guess with the four corners covered, we'll second this nomination and make it official. (ironic to note that Zwangzug is not a member of the WCC, having not posted a roster in one of the past two consecutive World Cups...).

P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Newmanistan 2 2 0 2 5 1 +4 6 C
2 Koseli Cumhuriyetler 2 1 0 1 2 3 −1 3
3 Nethertopia 2 0 0 2 0 3 −3 0

Newmanistan has again defied mathematics by playing 4 matches in 2 games!

Um well i as of yet have found no reason to disregard the ads. Yes its getting kinda off stupid, but when i post first on a page it nicely shapes it. Just putting it out there.

Best part for me is, the way i have my pages set up I DON'T SEE NO adverts! (except Prux' team...)

Best part for me is, the way i have my pages set up I DON'T SEE NO adverts! (except Prux' team...)

Hey Qaz, what's Maggie in a Sarong look like? :)

Hey Qaz, what's Maggie in a Sarong look like? :)

Probably like this:
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:hJY62Rd548JL9M:http://site.hawaiianoutpost.com/images/photogallery/green-sarong.jpg

Probably like this:
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:hJY62Rd548JL9M:http://site.hawaiianoutpost.com/images/photogallery/green-sarong.jpg

I approve! Passes the Jeruselemite test.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/Starblayde/nswiki/KuuValanora.jpg
[OOC: Who's that guy IRL? He's dreamy! :p]

By day he's the Liverpool and Spain striker Fernando Torres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Torres). Virtually, he's Starblaydi legend and new Valanora manager Jaime Kuu (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Jaime_Kuu).

And what is this, the 1950s? "Dreamy"? Pfft, I say, pfft!

By day he's the Liverpool and Spain striker Fernando Torres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Torres). Virtually, he's Starblaydi legend and new Valanora manager Jaime Kuu (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Jaime_Kuu).

And what is this, the 1950s? "Dreamy"? Pfft, I say, pfft!

I didn't realise that was Torrres.. Beautiful man, in a non-sexual way.

Hi, sorry, more annoying newbie questions.

1 (hypothetical): According to 1093 II §2
If there is only one candidate for President, that candidate will become the President. Otherwise, the WCC will vote on which of the candidates should be the President immediately after the nomination process. The candidate with the most votes will be the President and the candidate with the second-most votes will be the Vice-President.
So who becomes VP if the President wins as the only candidate? There would be no 'candidate with the second-most votes'. (Obviously, this doesn't matter in this, contested, election.)

2 (relevant): According to 1093 I §2
The World Cup Committee (WCC) during a particular World Cup consists of all nations that posted a roster during each of the previous two World Cups, as well as any member of the EWCC.
So, for this World Cup 45, I have posted rosters for WC 33, 34, 44, and 45. Do I have to wait until WC 46 before I am allowed to vote, or will I able to vote in the current Presidential election? I ask because I'm not sure whether 'previous' means the present World Cup.

Note: I'm only asking the above because you're always going on about people getting involved, and I'm not trying to ornery or cause trouble. I tell you the truth, I don't even know how to be ornery, I just like the word. Anyway, any enlightenment would be appreciated.

By day he's the Liverpool and Spain striker Fernando Torres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Torres). Virtually, he's Starblaydi legend and new Valanora manager Jaime Kuu (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Jaime_Kuu).

And what is this, the 1950s? "Dreamy"? Pfft, I say, pfft!

You're straight. Or were until Paci got done with you. :tongue:

*Ahem* what would YOU know about attractive male footballers? :p

*Ahem* what would YOU know about attractive male footballers? :p

By the same token doesn't that make you unqualified to pass judgments on any female's appearance?

It is possible to recognise qualities in things you don't like, you know. I don't like Mark Rothko's work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rothko) or Picasso's Guernica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(painting)), but I know they have a lot of artistic value :p

2 (relevant): According to 1093 I §2

So, for this World Cup 45, I have posted rosters for WC 33, 34, 44, and 45. Do I have to wait until WC 46 before I am allowed to vote, or will I able to vote in the current Presidential election? I ask because I'm not sure whether 'previous' means the present World Cup.

Note: I'm only asking the above because you're always going on about people getting involved, and I'm not trying to ornery or cause trouble. I tell you the truth, I don't even know how to be ornery, I just like the word. Anyway, any enlightenment would be appreciated.
People who should know have already said that posting rosters for WC44 & WC45 is enough to qualify both Peisandros and myself as WCC members, so you'd seem to be "in" as well now.
(Note: and so would 'Akbarabad', too...)

Presidential Announcement

WCC presidential election

The three candidates for WCC president to have received at least two nominations are The Archregimancy, Zwangzug, and Starblaydia.

Septentrionia and Daehanjeiguk received one nomination each.

Qazox, Candelaria & Marquez and Dancougar all received single nominations which they declined.

Votes will be collated by Vephrall.

Full details are available here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14591288&postcount=76

Edit:
And can Taeshan please delete the spamtastic post he's made in the Presidential Announcements thread?

Any comments you want to make about the election should be made here...



Cup of Harmony voting:

We can't hold a vote because we don't have an active bid - Qaz has withdrawn his bid.

I don't suppose anyone out there wants to host a Cup of Harmony?

I'm setting up a bid post - give me a bit of time, if possible. I have a really hellish week this week. :)

It is possible to recognise qualities in things you don't like, you know.

Thanks for answering your own question for me. :p

I was thinking of hosting CoH37, but I gotta go practice with scorinators first.

As for voting, we send the votes by TG to The Archregimancy?

Thanks for answering your own question for me. :p

My comment was more about the 1950s 'gee whizz, maybe he'll take me out for a milkshake and then for a ride in his T-bird' language :D

True, but that didn't give me as much to work with. :D

I was thinking of hosting CoH37, but I gotta go practice with scorinators first.

As for voting, we send the votes by TG to The Archregimancy?

No, you send votes by TG to Vephrall.

It's customary to ask a neutral third party to count votes in an election where the president is himself a candidate - and in this one, both the president and vice-president are candidates.

Vephrall's kindly agreed to step into the breach.

It's customary to ask a neutral third party to count votes in an election where the president is himself a candidate - and in this one, both the president and vice-president are candidates.

Is it not also customary to bar candidates from voting, such as in WC Hosting votes?

Otherwise, I vote for me :D

IIRC, I was on the list and voted for myself in the last WCC President election.

Now, if the vote was counted, this I can't say. :tongue:

(Now, it'd be interesting to note that, if the candidates could vote, Zwangzug couldn't due to not being a member of the WCC or EWWC)

Is it not also customary to bar candidates from voting, such as in WC Hosting votes?

Otherwise, I vote for me :D


While we ban hosting candidates from voting in host votes, we haven't to the best of my knowledge banned presidential candidates from voting in presidential elections.

My perhaps overly-rigid Gladstonian sense of propriety has led me to explicitly abstain from the last two presidential votes because I think it's inappropriate for me to vote in an election for which I'm a candidate - but there's nothing requiring a presidential candidate to abstain.

This means you can vote, though with me abstaining, and with Zwangzug unable to vote, you'll be the only presidential candidate voting for themselves if you do choose to exercise that right.

Edit:
And can Taeshan please delete the spamtastic post he's made in the Presidential Announcements thread?

Any comments you want to make about the election should be made here...


Please note: the ONLY person (apart from forum moderators/administrators, obviously, though I doubt it will be necessary) with permission to post in this thread is the current World Cup Committee President, whoever it may be (currently me, but that won't always be the case). Anyone posting in this thread without permission will be subject to a loss of WCC voting privileges for one (1) World Cup. No exceptions. If you want to discuss something posted here, do it in the designated discussion thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=293066).

This thread will be used for official WCC announcements from the President, and ONLY for that.

To what extent will this be applied?

Man it's cool to read the old posts in the Presidential Announcements thread. Lotsa history.

To what extent will this be applied?

It's a personal ruling by Bedi/Veph rather than an official WCC rule.

I'm willing to turn a blind eye if he deletes it ASAP.

If he doesn't delete it, then I may have to look at whether to apply that OP voting rights sanction - though I'd prefer it if he didn't put me in the position of having to.

More of a general NS rule than a WCC rule.

Originating Poster of a thread can define rules about who's allowed to post, particularily in the NS and II forums. Bedistan/Vephrall set the rules... we've got to abide by those rules according to NS,, all of us. even presidents and ex-presidents.

More of a general NS rule than a WCC rule.

Originating Poster of a thread can define rules about who's allowed to post, particularily in the NS and II forums. Bedistan/Vephrall set the rules... we've got to abide by those rules according to NS,, all of us. even presidents and ex-presidents.


Again, if he deletes it ASAP, I'll turn a blind eye. I see no need to be a hardline bastard about this unless he doesn't do something about it.

If it's still up there by (UK) lunchtime, though, I'll have to reconsider.

Since the thread's OP is collating votes, he also has some discretion as to whether to apply his own OP rule or not.

Summarised, I'm cutting Taeshan some slack, but I'm not going to just ignore the problem if he doesn't do something about it.

Oh. I didn't mean to imply that you SHOULDN'T be giving Taeshan a chance rectify it. Which I can see now that I did.

If he rectifies it himself no harm done and we can all pretend it didn't happen...

Again, if he deletes it ASAP, I'll turn a blind eye. I see no need to be a hardline bastard about this unless he doesn't do something about it.

If Bedistan hadn't included the bit about "NO EXCEPTIONS," I'd be inclined to agree with you AFTER beating Taeshan with a wet noodle or a week old trout. However, the penalty was written emphatically, and frankly, Taeshan knows better.

I've given Taeshan ample time and notice to delete the post in question - in fact, due to RL distractions, he's had four hours more than I intended to give him.

Regrettably, I feel I have no choice but to institute a one World Cup voting sanction on him, as specified in the Presidential Announcements thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14594181&postcount=78

I still feel justified in having exercised some presidential discretion by giving him time to correct his error rather than implement an immediate sanction, but 20 hours is surely long enough for anyone.


And remember, kids, spamming the Presidential Announcements thread is just as bad as spamming a WC results thread.

Could you update the list with WCC members, please? :3

Speaking of the WCC members list, I note I'm on it as a former host. Seeing as I've not hosted a World Cup I should be in the 2 rosters in the last 2 cups section.

Speaking of the WCC members list, I note I'm on it as a former host. Seeing as I've not hosted a World Cup I should be in the 2 rosters in the last 2 cups section.

Whoops! My mistake - list corrected (though the important thing is confirming that you can vote).


Also, Nethertopia has accurately pointed out to me via a TG from his puppet Dariusville that while Nethertopia itself hasn't posted rosters in both of the last two World Cups (yet), Nethertopian puppet Dariusville has. Nethertopia can therefore vote via his puppet, and I've also corrected the voter list to reflect this.

This is were i but in for my defense. First-The Definition of Ample Time is a time adequat enough to get a task done. Yes you fit this criteria, but 2. You gave ample enough time for a person in the UK to do the stated thing. Which means when you ended the clock i was having Lunch at school. 3. This brings to my definning point. Part A. I din't have CC9 today and even if i had i cant go on the forums due to blocks. B. I didn't get off the bus till about half an hour ago and on the comp till 10 mins ago and on the cite till about 5. D. With here i can state that due to an American law stating i have to go to school or there will be consequences there is no possible way i could have fixed this problem in the time given.

D. With here i can state that due to an American law stating i have to go to school or there will be consequences there is no possible way i could have fixed this problem in the time given.

Not quite my place to say owt - so I will. The thread you posted in said not to post in there or suffer the consequences. Arch gave ample time - but a lot more time than someone would've have got if they'd posted in the scores thread. It's unfortunate that your timezone didn't quite work out for you in this case.

I see were he's coming from. I didnt at the time realise that that was the case. I never had a reason to look at the first pages due to the fact that they mostly did not apply to me. I was just pointing out that even though yes it was all my fault that at the time i did not realise this due to me ignorance. I was just pointing out that it was quite impossible and due to a higher power it was not within my limits to delete the post within the alotted time period.

Yes I have in fact relised that since, and second im just displaying the facts. And anyways I was not planing to vote for President because all the choices are good and im not good at making descisions between the lesser of two goods. It's just im angered by the fact that its inpossible for me to do something to change something i didnt realise was wrong and by the time i can fix it im already in the times up period.

I see were he's coming from. I didnt at the time realise that that was the case. I never had a reason to look at the first pages due to the fact that they mostly did not apply to me. I was just pointing out that even though yes it was all my fault that at the time i did not realise this due to me ignorance. I was just pointing out that it was quite impossible and due to a higher power it was not within my limits to delete the post within the alotted time period.

Just put it down to experience Tae. Everyone makes mistakes.

Happy now Qaz? :)

Qazox 3–1 Kosovoe

Just an occ congrats to Mantwenic for beating Bostopia at home. Feel free to share the secrets! Lulz.

I see were he's coming from. I didnt at the time realise that that was the case. I never had a reason to look at the first pages due to the fact that they mostly did not apply to me. I was just pointing out that even though yes it was all my fault that at the time i did not realise this due to me ignorance. I was just pointing out that it was quite impossible and due to a higher power it was not within my limits to delete the post within the alotted time period.

Tae, I genuinely regret that you feel hard done by, but if you read through this thread, you'll see that I was considerably more lenient towards you than some people wanted me to be - there was a body of opinion that wanted me to enforce the voting sanction immediately. I gave you 20 hours.

Secondly, I would feel more sympathy towards your argument that you didn't have time if you hadn't made this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14591393&postcount=357) at almost precisely the same time (two minutes after) that I edited this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14591224&postcount=8687) to ask you to delete your message in the Presidential Announcements thread.

You were on-line when I asked you to delete the post, and indeed afterwards as a few minutes later you added a post for Kosovoe.

Perhaps you may not have had cause to read the Discussion Thread after making your RP posts, but you can't claim you weren't on-line between my making the request and my instituting the sanction.

I did my best to give you as much of a chance as I felt I could, and I can't be held responsible for not knowing your RL schedule - I didn't even know you were still in school.

nuts.......................>>>

That's what they want you to buy.

In the meantime, I'll satiate your lust for annoying non-sense... oh, you mean you'd rather watch the ads than see my boring non-sense? Okay, suit yourself...


Just an occ congrats to Mantwenic for beating Bostopia at home. Feel free to share the secrets! Lulz.

n00ks!

I amy not have still been on with K. I have seen sometimes that i can swith back to Tae and then look at the bottom and it still registers as being on. And i wouldnt have noticed it because i dont look at anything but the RP thread with K.

This is were i but in for my defense. First-The Definition of Ample Time is a time adequat enough to get a task done. Yes you fit this criteria, but 2. You gave ample enough time for a person in the UK to do the stated thing. Which means when you ended the clock i was having Lunch at school. 3. This brings to my definning point. Part A. I din't have CC9 today and even if i had i cant go on the forums due to blocks. B. I didn't get off the bus till about half an hour ago and on the comp till 10 mins ago and on the cite till about 5. D. With here i can state that due to an American law stating i have to go to school or there will be consequences there is no possible way i could have fixed this problem in the time given.

1. Twenty hours isn't ample time to get to a computer and delete a post that shouldn't have been there in the first place?

2. How long have you been on NS? Surely long enough to know you A) don't post in the scores threads and B) you don't post in the presidential announcements thread unless you're the president.

3. Not only is the rule explicitly written, but so is the consequence. You created a spammy post in a thread you were asked from the very beginning not to post in unless you had specific authority to do so. You didn't have that authority, yet you posted anyway. Not only that, but you posted something that was anything but constructive to the task at hand.

For the reasons above, I support the discipline as outlined in the rules.

So do i its just i didnt realise at the time. Anyways im going to be really mad if i dont qualify both of my teams for the world cup. this is the most Rping i have ever done for anything. And to top it off i added K into the mix. And i know some of you have done that lots of time before but im not a typing person

The only thing this punishment does is prevent you from voting for the duration of World Cup XLV. It won't prevent you from qualifying. It prevents you from voting until the end of this World Cup cycle.

No that part was just an add on about the fact that i am doing way more then par on what i usually do. And really there was only one thing it prevents me from doing withc as stated i wasnt planing on voting for do to the eenness in quality of the canidates it was the right time to make a mistake like this. Not that there is a right time of course.

Happy now Qaz? :)

Qazox 3–1 Kosovoe

Maybe.... :rolleyes:

n00ks!

I shoulda known. n00ks always win! :hail:

1. Twenty hours isn't ample time to get to a computer and delete a post that shouldn't have been there in the first place?

Noting that I do in fact agree with the penalty, I'd like to point out that twenty hours is, in fact, not close to "ample time". I'm sure any person can think of any number of scenarios where twenty hours would not nearly be enough. If anything, the lower limit ought to be at least a day - I know for a fact I'd be very upset if I posted something before going to, say, a debate tournament, and when I returned, I'd been penalized. Or a soccer tournament. Or visiting my cousin at her university. Or any number of things.

Needless to say, it ought not to have been there in the first place.

I think we wouldn't be making this much of a fuss if the post had at least been coherent and helpful. It wasn't, and it was pure spam. Which should never have been posted in the first place - even in here it wouldn't really have been welcomed. It was not constructive, and Taeshan should have known better, given his past warning for spam.

At any rate, when exactly do we consider the "one World Cup voting cycle" to end, with regards to WC46 host voting?

I think we wouldn't be making this much of a fuss if the post had at least been coherent and helpful. It wasn't, and it was pure spam.

That's exactly what I was getting at. If Taeshan's post had been constructive and coherent and had he not known better, I would have supported asking the mods to move the post to this thread and leaving it at that (after whipping Taeshan with a wet noodle or a trout, of course).

It's possible that people could mistakenly post something in that thread that belongs here. It's possible for someone to post a RP in the scores thread (I nearly did that with my first RP in World Cup XLIV). Even with Bedistan's rule, I'd still support cutting someone slack if it's an honest mistake and it's a post that contributes something.

Pure spam from someone who has been warned about spamming in the past should get the penalty, which is light enough to keep from discouraging someone from getting or staying involved in this game and firm enough to get the point across. We're not preventing Taeshan from participating in the World Cup Finals should he qualify. Nor are we banning him from participating in World Cup XLVI. All we're doing is taking away a World Cup vote.

Consider it a lesson learned and move on.

Sorry for not RPing or even posting a roster this WC so far.

It started just as I was moving from Arad to Holon and it's been a long move. I'll start posting as usual soon (i.e. semi-regular basis.)

True, but that didn't give me as much to work with. :D

Stupid Dreamy Torres (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidSexyFlanders).

At any rate, when exactly do we consider the "one World Cup voting cycle" to end, with regards to WC46 host voting?

While noting that this is potentially subject to change should Star or Zwang replace me as president... in the absence of a more specific definition, my reading of the 'one World Cup voting cycle' is that Taeshan is ineligible to vote while non-host membership of the WCC draws on rosters from WCs 44 & 45.


As to the minor disagreement over whether 20 hours is 'adequate' notice or not... that's always going to be subjective, but I did exercise a fair amount of interpretive leeway in Tae's favour given that the relevant thread OP reads 'immediately', and Tae was demonstrably online when the request to remove the post was first made.

But given that no one except perhaps Taeshan himself disagrees with the actual implementation of the voting sanction, I'd prefer it if we could just move on from this now, please.

World Cup 45?
I must say I am impressed.

How've things been around here?

Star and I are handing the tournament to each other. :p

Jeru FC 1–0 Valanora

Must be Friday the 13th!

No its the night before the night before pi day. Hence Friday the 13th.

World Cup 45?
I must say I am impressed.

How've things been around here?

Someone's finally played me more times than you.

who is that?

A search of this thread tells me that's Squornshelous.

wb, sort of..Skworn

No CoH bids yet?

I wonder if Dancougar here works at Mozilla?

See the release notes for Firefox 3.1 Beta 3
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.1b3/whatsnew/

Someone's finally played me more times than you.

I'd imagine by now my old records for qualifying attempts and successes have been broken as well.

As for the new name, Squornshelous always had issues of wierdness regarding passwords after the switch to Jolt and none of the ones I remember using work to resurrect it.
/shrug
Oh wells, Squornshelous was over anyway, it had gotten to the point where the character of the country was so established that I felt limited in what I could do with it.

I think you may see a country of mine in the next tourney.

Jeru FC 1–0 Valanora

Must be Friday the 13th!

Yup :D

Legendar 1–1 Starblaydia


Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Starblaydia 10 9 1 0 23 2 +21 28
...
8 Legendar 10 0 1 9 7 27 −20 1 E

Things are getting tough in Group 2. :eek:

Yup :D

Legendar 1–1 Starblaydia


Group 7 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Starblaydia 10 9 1 0 23 2 +21 28
...
8 Legendar 10 0 1 9 7 27 −20 1 E

You too?

Matchday 10 results

The McLaughlin Islands 1–0 Bears Armed

Group 6 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
2 Bears Armed 10 7 0 3 20 12 +8 21
...
8 The McLaughlin Islands 10 1 2 7 2 17 −15 5 E
:(

Yup :D

Legendar 1–1 Starblaydia


Ug-Ug like Leg-place!

Leg-place is now team Ug-Ug like best!

Coach one says our team can now catch coach two's home and be best team in group if we beat coach two's home at home!

Ug-Ug send Leg-place dead wild beast for big feast of joy and smiles!

I wonder if Dancougar here works at Mozilla?

See the release notes for Firefox 3.1 Beta 3
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.1b3/whatsnew/

I do not, sadly, but I do approve of the marriage of open source and giant robots. (But until they make it boot as fast as Chrome, I will still be sad.)

No CoH bids yet?

Soon to be rectified...

Things are getting tough in Group 2. :eek:

it gets tougher as the days near the end... unless if we can qualify before then!


Oh, and the IFA accepts a post-qualifier friendly request by Sarzonia, even though we're well aware that our recent friendly results completely suck.

Its gonna be close, and as usual i expect to be one of the odd men out.

Semi-official vote-collector announcement

Per our current president (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14591288&postcount=76), the WCC presidential election voting period concluded about 100 minutes ago.

Unfortunately, Daehanjeiguk, your vote was received about 40 minutes after the deadline and thus I cannot count it.

So without further ado, I present...the results.

The Archregimancy - 9
Starblaydia - 10
Zwangzug - 0

And so, pending verification by our current president, Starblaydia will take over the presidency for World Cups 46 through 48, with the Archregimancy continuing in the role of vice-president.

Damn i was hoping Prux would win?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Thank you for that lovely announcement, Vephrall!

And now Allemenschen wish to bring to the attention of the WCC body a bid that will not falter, although it might fail... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=586652)