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Luckly I'm not a government agent, so Charter restrictions on age discrimination don't apply, and I'm not providing a public service, so Human Rights Legislation can't touch me.You didn't get the joke. :(

You didn't get the joke. :(

I did...

Responded.
And myself in turn.

Yeah...well it's...wow. Think of it as a physical extension of really dirty, demeaning talk. Which is only okay in the heat of the moment mind you. But yeah. It was awesome.
Still, it's a bit of a turn off when people are spitting on each other in porn. Of course, it's also a bit of a turn off whenever the dude in a porn says anything, because it's usually something stupid and douchebaggish that annoys me.

Maybe when I'm like 40, and a total cougar, I'll think it's okay :P For now, you are the freaking age of kids I used to teach. And although it may not come across here, I have pretty strict ethical standards.
What...doesn't everyone say that?
Lol, "hot for teacher." Sorry, couldn't resist.

The problem is, you're generally not in the position (or with the right lighting) to see it, outside of porn.

True. Still, I kinda wish my girlfriend did it.

I keep seeing mention of porn, am I the only person who doesn't enjoy porn?

Yeah. Mine has gotten a lot more insane lately. As in, at least three days where no, you are not fucking getting near me cuz I ache and I'm gushing like the freaking Hoover Dam is breaking.
I could tell you stories that would curl your hair -- and turn the lurking children off sex with women forever. So I won't. And mine's actually gotten less hellishly bitchy in the past couple of years.

Agreed on the outfits. My favourite outfit is 'naked'.
Naked is good. Or "messed up." You know, just what it takes to clear for action, as it were. I've sometimes not finished stripping him/getting stripped until round two. I like the look of messed up clothes on a body, especially in the after glow.

But I do like being forced to do things I otherwise would not choose to do.
That's not my thing. I do like to be restrained a little, but that's totally different.

I didn't used to be into it. I mean, I don't want to have to respond with sentences or anything coherent. I just want to hear it, in very specific situations. But if it's lame, it turns me off, so it's a fine line.
Haha, I can't stand it. I mean, the occasional "you like that?" or "tell me <this or that>" type thing, that's fine, but if a guy keeps running his mouth, telling me to do stuff or asking me questions or just giving some kind of running commentary, like a sportscaster, I get to the "Shut up, already!" point pretty fast. :D

The 'number of dates' was entirely tongue in cheek on my part.

I don't think I ever 'dated'.
I call it "dating" for want of a better word, but I think it's misleading, too. To me, a "date" is nothing but a social engagement to get together with someone for a short time -- a date for lunch, a date for coffee, a date for the movies, etc. I go out on a date with a guy to decide whether I want to have sex with him. Then if we like fucking together, and settle into being lovers for a while, well, today's pop culture doesn't really give us another word for that except "dating." It's weird, because to me, saying "I've got a date with <Mr. X>" is different than "I'm dating <Mr. X>." The first doesn't imply sex, the second totally means sex.

I keep seeing mention of porn, am I the only person who doesn't enjoy porn?
No, I know people who don't. And these days, tbh I enjoy written porn more than video.

Yeah. Mine has gotten a lot more insane lately. As in, at least three days where no, you are not fucking getting near me cuz I ache and I'm gushing like the freaking Hoover Dam is breaking.

Jeez, I stop to actually do some work, and next time I look, the thread has doubled.

You probably already know - but if you can get an orgasm, you can often kill that ache...

You didn't get the joke. :(

Sorry...I did...I just responded with admittedly lame lawyer humour.

I keep seeing mention of porn, am I the only person who doesn't enjoy porn?

I only enjoy certain porn.

Porn where the participants are clearly truly into it, authentically enjoying themselves, and porn that isn't boring role playing 'pizza guy' or 'hot teacher'.

Jeez, I stop to actually do some work, and next time I look, the thread has doubled.

You probably already know - but if you can get an orgasm, you can often kill that ache...

Yeah, orgasms are a great way to deal with all sorts of bodily aches and pains...upset stomach, headache, insane need to kill people during the worst cramps...

But it fades. So you have to masturbate a lot :P

Yeah, orgasms are a great way to deal with all sorts of bodily aches and pains...upset stomach, headache, insane need to kill people during the worst cramps...

But it fades. So you have to masturbate a lot :P

Masturbation is a great stress reliever. And works great for headaches too, even hangovers.

Masturbation is a great stress reliever. And works great for headaches too, even hangovers.

It gets harder to cum each time though, and the chafing, argh! Also, regular batteries don't cut it for vibrators...need to invest in the lithium ones. Which I haven't for a while. You know...to avoid carpel tunnel syndrome.

Alright, I'm for bed, long past due, with an early morning and a headache to look forward to. Damn you gin! Damn you with your sexy, blue bottle and portrait of Queen Victoria!

The fuck? I'm gone for ONE FUCKING NIGHT and this is what happens? Mur, Neesika, can't I take you two ANYWHERE nice?

I have no idea, because I'm only 14.

The fuck? I'm gone for ONE FUCKING NIGHT and this is what happens? Mur, Neesika, can't I take you two ANYWHERE nice?

Take me somewhere nice so I can give you head under the fancy table :p

Okay well I can see that. I mean, I think it's really hot too, to watch. I think it's hot because it's a visible and undeniable female orgasm...you know for sure it isn't faked.

However, it's also inconvenient. It's messy. Messier than male ejaculation because it's not as thick, and there's a lot more of it. That annoys me. Also, it has a tendency to overlube. So...you're realllllly enjoying something and you squirt and suddenly the right amount of friction is seriously reduced. THAT is a piss off.

I haven't had anyone complain though so maybe it's just me being self-conscious.

Also, I hate the term 'squirt'. And 'female ejaculate' sounds weird. A sexier term is needed.


Ask Dan Savage (http://www.thestranger.com/savage), he's the man responsible for Santorum being more than the last name of an asshole senator.

Ask Dan Savage (http://www.thestranger.com/savage), he's the man responsible for Santorum being more than the last name of an asshole senator.

Ahhhh Dan Savage. I met him on his book tour. We discussed our mutual interest in unionising McDonald's employees. He would indeed have some good ideas on the subject.

I only enjoy certain porn.

Porn where the participants are clearly truly into it, authentically enjoying themselves, and porn that isn't boring role playing 'pizza guy' or 'hot teacher'.

I don't enjoy it because I'm not involved. It might sound strange but without the smell, taste, feel... or the chance of getting involved, I don't get any kind of response out of it, sometimes disgust because it looks gross.


I watched a porn with a lover once and it got me going, but I am more sure that she was the reason.

It gets harder to cum each time though, and the chafing, argh! Also, regular batteries don't cut it for vibrators...need to invest in the lithium ones. Which I haven't for a while. You know...to avoid carpel tunnel syndrome.

Alright, I'm for bed, long past due, with an early morning and a headache to look forward to. Damn you gin! Damn you with your sexy, blue bottle and portrait of Queen Victoria!

That seriously made me lol. I really did Laugh Out Loud.

Yeah... being male, I have rather a long recharge time. So it's best immediately followed by napping, if I'm doing it to get rid of a hangover.

I don't enjoy it because I'm not involved. It might sound strange but without the smell, taste, feel... or the chance of getting involved, I don't get any kind of response out of it, sometimes disgust because it looks gross.


I watched a porn with a lover once and it got me going, but I am more sure that she was the reason.

Makes sense. No matter how well done the porn is, it can never compare to being in the arms of a lover, because with porn, you just get the visual and sometimes audio aspect (though the latter can be annoying), when smell, taste and feel really are very important.

I think that's probably why I'm more drawn to text porn now. You know, sex stories, that kind of thing.

Yeah, orgasms are a great way to deal with all sorts of bodily aches and pains...upset stomach, headache, insane need to kill people during the worst cramps...

But it fades. So you have to masturbate a lot :P

Which is... bad?

I think the depth of penetration accompanying your menstrual orgasm matters, too. It seems like 'getting hit in the cervix' as you get there seems to help, long term. Or - so I'm told.

That seriously made me lol. I really did Laugh Out Loud.

Yeah... being male, I have rather a long recharge time. So it's best immediately followed by napping, if I'm doing it to get rid of a hangover.

Ok, this is a pet peeve of mine. Why do us men get sleepy after EVERYTHING?? We eat, we get sleepy. We fuck, we get sleepy. We fucking sleep in, and we get sleepy.

It's annoying as hell.

Squirting is awesome. My last girlfriend half squirted once, and I was really excited, but she was high at the time and we never replicated it. My guess (made after conducting much...erm... research) is that fisting tends to be required for a lot of girls. Which was a shame, we never managed that. Almost, but not quite.

Here's a question for the girls out there. Premature ejaculation. The bane of sex. How soon is too soon? Is one orgasm enough? Is there a time limit? What do you do if he doesn't satisfy you? How can he make it up to you, aside from waiting 10 minutes and going again when his body allows him to take his time? Have you found any strategies to prolong sex?

(As an aside, I saw nympho mentioned before as a potential bad thing... trust me, for the last month I was with my ex, her being a nympho was the only thing I stayed for. The sounds of female orgasm just never get old)

Which is... bad?

I think the depth of penetration accompanying your menstrual orgasm matters, too. It seems like 'getting hit in the cervix' as you get there seems to help, long term. Or - so I'm told.

That sounds painful, getting hit in the cervix.

But then again, what do I know? I'm male.

See...this is what so many women say. They might have even tried it, and it hurt and they decided 'never again!'.

But I don't know anyone who did it properly (as in not painfully) who didn't go....oh HELL yes.


*raises hand*

Been eager to try it, gotten BF to do it (and he's surprised me by actually being apt and things not hurting), but there's nothing in it for me except the knowledge that he likes it and I can do him a favor with it, which feels good. I was rather disappointed because I thought I'd love it, but I've never felt more than "hmm, okay..?", be it with him or when I tried it on my own.


My cut-off age is 21. And that is really pushing it. 21 is just there as a bare minimum...I'm not actually convinced I'd ever get involved with someone that young. Youngest I've been with recently was 24 and THAT freaked me out because I found out after the fact.

So yeah. Choke me, hit me, spit on me...all fine...but don't be too young :P

Oh. So you'd refuse to tap my 22-year-old awesomeness? That's even more disappointing than the anal thing.


So anyhow, on topic: I don't think I'd discuss any specifics before actual sex happened, but I certainy would like to gauge their general sexual openness, so to speak.

However, I'm rather vocal about sex and my needs, so I'd be certain to talk rather throroughly about what I'd like and what I'd definitely not like during the first getting naked, and after. I don't think I'd need to march through a whole exhaustive list, but two hours after you first fucked me you ought to have a decent picture of my sexual personality - either that, or you're so prude that it doesn't matter anyhow.

Here's a question for the girls out there. Premature ejaculation. The bane of sex. How soon is too soon? Is one orgasm enough? Is there a time limit? What do you do if he doesn't satisfy you? How can he make it up to you, aside from waiting 10 minutes and going again when his body allows him to take his time? Have you found any strategies to prolong sex?


I, personally, think "premature ejaculation" is way overrated. Okay, so there are things more awesome than him not being able to penetrate you with his cock for indefinite time. But in my opinion, the only thing that really counts is the amount of time you spend really and honestly trying to satisfy your partner as much as you can, and as they want to. If you do that, it doesn't really matter whether you have a rock-hard dick to shove in there for twenty minutes straight or not.

"Sex" is not "pounding dick in vagina" only. "Sex" is giving each other sexual pleasure, and you can prolong it by, well, doing it a long time, and you can enhance it by really wanting it, and by listening to how your partner likes it best.

I, personally, think "premature ejaculation" is way overrated. Okay, so there are things more awesome than him not being able to penetrate you with his cock for indefinite time. But in my opinion, the only thing that really counts is the amount of time you spend really and honestly trying to satisfy your partner as much as you can, and as they want to. If you do that, it doesn't really matter whether you have a rock-hard dick to shove in there for twenty minutes straight or not.

"Sex" is not "pounding dick in vagina" only. "Sex" is giving each other sexual pleasure, and you can prolong it by, well, doing it a long time, and you can enhance it by really wanting it, and by listening to how your partner likes it best.

Of course. That was kinda where I was heading. Just wanted to measure opinion on the subject.

It seems like 'getting hit in the cervix' as you get there seems to help, long term. Or - so I'm told.

You know how guys go into that defensive posture-wincing thing when they hear about someone getting kicked in the balls? That's what I just did. :(

No need. You'd be amazed how elegantly I can phrase the crudest of inquiries. Or rather, just how far being 5'0", innocent looking with a pixie cut gets you in terms of latitude towards outrageousness.

Or maybe you wouldn't.

Go with the latter. I'm not impossible to amaze, but difficult.

Well if I manage to make a video where I'm not horrible self-conscious after the fact, I'll get it to you:) And if you get a chance to visit Alberta in the next six or seven months, I'll definitely call you in as a volunteer :D

My sister lives in Calgary. There's my pretext. ;)

omg you've done it. You're my hero.

Yup. The first time she was really taken aback, but then she asked me to do it again next shower. Soon thereafter she was embracing me very ardently, then looked up into my eyes as if she was going to say something sweet and deep...and pissed all over my thigh. Ah, love.

That's a great term! It should be a source of pride...'you got me THAT wet'.

Oh, trust me, I'm proud. I've also floated "gush" (and "gusher" as either an instance or a person known to gush) and "flood".

Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh so worth it.

So you keep saying. I've not been with a woman who's even remotely hinted at it yet. Like you said, I hate to be the one to bring it up 'cause there's not much you can do to avoid sounding like you're obsessed with it, even if you're not, if you're male.

Also soooo fucking worth it. Once you deal with some of the strange dynamics and the almost inherent jealousy it's just fun. And amazing.

Me and Greek GF came close once, but she revealed herself as all talk when the moment arrived. It was sweet, though, 'cause she got upset -- not at the prospect of the act itself but more like she didn't want to share me that way 'cause it felt like an affront to her love. Yeah, that made me feel like a horse's ass for even bringing the possibility up in the first place, but I forgave myself because she didn't veto it in the proposal and arrangement phases. I understood, though. It's one thing to have an idea about something and get psyched up for it, but to feel a whole different way when the moment arrives. I found summits of mountains to be a similar situation with my acrophobia (easy to say "this time I'm not gonna freeze" when you're not yet exposed at 14,000 feet with a strong wind).

I don't think that whole 'she's in control' thing is totally accurate, speaking as a woman. I mean, I understand that in this day and age, a man can't push it too much...but frick, neither can we. I find myself constantly banging up against people's limits, and there's really nothing you can do about it, but have patience and respect. Historically, perhaps it has been men who had more knowledge sexually and so who were pushing more....but I think that is shifting. I know plenty of men who have no problem saying 'uh not yet, maybe not at all...slow down'. It can be incredibly frustrating, but that's just the way it is.

Maybe I'm attracted to too many academic women. I've never met anyone who is as frank and honest and detailed about sex in general as you are, and these are smart, strong women I'm talking about. Maybe it's me.

I'm not into young guys either. Every now and then I see a guy in his 20s who is very beautiful, and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't kick that out of bed. But 20 and under, I'm sorry, they just seem...not finished yet...to my eye.

I think guys hit their max sexiness in their 40s.

Oh, thank you Lord. I've never been happier to be 38.

Since this thread is awash in frankness, may I just say that Sin, Mur, Poli, Smunk, Dakini, BK? I don't need photos. Your posts have revealed you to me to be the sexiest women I've never met. I've been fortunate enough to see a sliver of your minds, and the mind is the largest erogenous zone on anyone as far as I'm concerned. I revel in the hotness of your ability to craft and sculpt the language. I am a lucky man already -- thank you.

Oh frick yes.

And sooooooooooo much better in bed.

Nope. Neeever been happier to be 38.

*snip*

(As an aside, I saw nympho mentioned before as a potential bad thing... trust me, for the last month I was with my ex, her being a nympho was the only thing I stayed for. The sounds of female orgasm just never get old)

I could be blind and still be a class-A voyeur (audieur?). Genuine sounds of couples in the throes of orgasm have always been unsurpassed aphrodisiacs for me, and always will be. So Sin, all I would need would be audio -- don't get me wrong, I'd not turn down your video.

Of course. That was kinda where I was heading. Just wanted to measure opinion on the subject.

Well, then that's great. There's no greater sex than the sex where you can feel that your partner is devoted to make it great for you, that he's loving to have sex with you, and then technique or tools become utterly secondary.

At leats that's how it's for me.

And when you appear to not really care for my amazing body, but just for the fact that is has convenient holes to stick stuff into, or when you don't care about my pleasure or maybe even yours, and the potential of both, then even the longest, hardest, biggest, and most "durable" penis of them all is going to give me pretty much no pleasure at all.

You know how guys go into that defensive posture-wincing thing when they hear about someone getting kicked in the balls? That's what I just did. :(

Awwww... poor Ryadn.

Well, then that's great. There's no greater sex than the sex where you can feel that your partner is devoted to make it great for you, that he's loving to have sex with you, and then technique or tools become utterly secondary.

At leats that's how it's for me.

And when you appear to not really care for my amazing body, but just for the fact that is has convenient holes to stick stuff into, or when you don't care about my pleasure or maybe even yours, and the potential of both, then even the longest, hardest, biggest, and most "durable" penis of them all is going to give me pretty much no pleasure at all.

Extended naked back rubs/massages (with kissing and nipping) can be a nice prelude. Just being naked and together is amazing to me, pressed against each other and luxuriating in each other's caresses... damn, this thread is really making me miss my ladyfriend.

It gets harder to cum each time though, and the chafing, argh! Also, regular batteries don't cut it for vibrators...need to invest in the lithium ones. Which I haven't for a while. You know...to avoid carpel tunnel syndrome.


I can't get the same satisfaction masturbating :(. I don't know WHY I am saying this on a web forum but to me masturbating is like turning on a pressure release valve. No real pleasure derived from it just cleaning the plumbing. I have not had a real orgasm for going on 4 years. :(

Extended naked back rubs/massages (with kissing and nipping) can be a nice prelude. Just being naked and together is amazing to me, pressed against each other and luxuriating in each other's caresses... damn, this thread is really making me miss my ladyfriend.

I miss HAVING one.

Ah, okay gotcha. I think it's sort of funny to call hook-ups 'dates' and I've had more hook-ups than dates. So you hook-up for the first time...what are you comfortable suggesting?Just about anything I'd be willing to do with a girl after any number of dates. Hard to say, it really depends on reading how she reacts. There's a couple things I wouldn't do that aren't strictly taboo for me, such as giving oral sex or kissing on the lips. Me giving oral sex requires some serious emotion, and I don't kiss unless its a serious relationship.

In a recent conversation, the subject of first date etiquette came up, and so I wanted some feedback from NSG. Anal. Okay on a first date? Or something you save for the second date? Would you bring it up soon? Is that a faux pas?

What about other activities? Is there some 'magic number' of dates before you get really kinky with someone? I mean, the whole 'first base, second base, third base' thing is definitely passe...but when is (for example) urinating on your partner something you'd discuss? Fifth date? Ninth?

Just what are you comfortable with, and when?


Edit: "Date" just may be a euphemism for sleeping with, depending on your viewpoint.

I'd say it depends entirely on my date... if I get the feeling that they are rather reserved I probably wouldn't bring it up. If I get the feeling they're as kinky as I am, I will.
Unrinating is not aomething I'd be into at all, so they can bring it up anytime they like and will get a short "no" from me. I'd prefer it though if they brought it up before making any attempts...

Eeek! You've engaged a serious Sinuhue hangup! Age! Though it's not really applicable in this conversational setting.

My cut-off age is 21. And that is really pushing it. 21 is just there as a bare minimum...I'm not actually convinced I'd ever get involved with someone that young. Youngest I've been with recently was 24 and THAT freaked me out because I found out after the fact.

So yeah. Choke me, hit me, spit on me...all fine...but don't be too young :PHmph. Now that I'm officially mid-twenties, I no longer feel entirely comfortable with the idea of nailing someone under 20. Biggest age difference was when I was with someone 10 years older.

Hmph. Now that I'm officially mid-twenties, I no longer feel entirely comfortable with the idea of nailing someone under 20. Biggest age difference was when I was with someone 10 years older.

I don't mind young so much... although under 20 might be a bit weird.

I miss HAVING one.

I'm sorry :(

Obviously you don't need to discuss anything. Just stick it in their pooper and hope for the best :)

Obviously you don't need to discuss anything. Just stick it in their pooper and hope for the best :)

Just out of curiosity : Have you actually tried this before? Please describe in detail what happened next.

Just out of curiosity : Have you actually tried this before? Please describe in detail what happened next.

Something tells me that what happens next would be most unpleasant.

Something tells me that what happens next would be most unpleasant.

But possibly quite fun to read... you know, the NS-equivalent of a teen comedy flick. ;)

But possibly quite fun to read... you know, the NS-equivalent of a teen comedy flick. ;)

Oh yes, definitely. I meant unpleasant for the people involved. For everyone else it would be lulz.

If I mentioned it on a first date, I'd probably get slapped in the face.

If I mentioned it on a first date, I'd probably get slapped in the face.

I still have not managed to get slapped in the face for saying something inappropriate. One of my friends actually was trying to talk his girlfriend (also a good friend of mine) into punching him in the face for a couple months. She finally did one night when were all drinking.

Which is... bad? Not bad, just tiring, chafing, and eventually unsatisfying.

Ok, this is a pet peeve of mine. Why do us men get sleepy after EVERYTHING?? We eat, we get sleepy. We fuck, we get sleepy. We fucking sleep in, and we get sleepy.

It's annoying as hell. Then I'm a guy. When I cum, I just want to pass out. When I eat, nap time.

Squirting is awesome. My last girlfriend half squirted once, and I was really excited, but she was high at the time and we never replicated it. My guess (made after conducting much...erm... research) is that fisting tends to be required for a lot of girls. Which was a shame, we never managed that. Almost, but not quite.There you go. Being high helps.

Fisting...I love fisting almost more than anything else. Haven't squirted during it though.


Here's a question for the girls out there. Premature ejaculation. The bane of sex. How soon is too soon? Is one orgasm enough? Is there a time limit? What do you do if he doesn't satisfy you? How can he make it up to you, aside from waiting 10 minutes and going again when his body allows him to take his time? Have you found any strategies to prolong sex? I honestly don't care if a guy cums in under 20 seconds as long as he takes care of me after. It drives me nuts that the male orgasm still tends to signal 'the end' of the session for a lot of people. It's okay if you need time to recover...I mean directly after orgasm. Catch your breath, whatever. At that point, there are many things you could be doing other than waiting to get another erection.

Happily, even fairly inexperienced men these days tend to understand that it's not that big a deal, and fingers and tongue can make up for a lot.

That being said, I haven't actually experienced a lot of premature ejaculators. In fact, the problem seems to be the opposite...most men I'm with take a very long time to cum, and sometimes don't cum at all before succumbing to exhaustion. It used to to make me worry that they weren't enjoying it enough or something, but I've been informed emphatically that this isn't the case, so whatever.


*raises hand*

Oh. So you'd refuse to tap my 22-year-old awesomeness? That's even more disappointing than the anal thing. I said limit was 21, and everyone knows women mature faster than men. In man years, you're like 38. :p

You know how guys go into that defensive posture-wincing thing when they hear about someone getting kicked in the balls? That's what I just did. :(
My cervix bleeds so freaking easily. I always have to apologise for staining sheets because of it. It might not happen if I didn't encourage a jackhammer approach, but I'm not entirely convinced.

Yup, it hurts. If the sex isn't very good, it hurts a LOT and makes me cramp and want to stop. If the sex is good, I don't fucking care, go ahead and pound away at my cervix.

My sister lives in Calgary. There's my pretext. ;) I'm doing that Mr.Burns hand rubbing thing.



Yup. The first time she was really taken aback, but then she asked me to do it again next shower. Soon thereafter she was embracing me very ardently, then looked up into my eyes as if she was going to say something sweet and deep...and pissed all over my thigh. Ah, love. That's fucking hilarious.
Well, then that's great. There's no greater sex than the sex where you can feel that your partner is devoted to make it great for you, that he's loving to have sex with you, and then technique or tools become utterly secondary.

At leats that's how it's for me.
This. This this and this.

Sex with other people is just mechanics. Sex with someone you love and who loves you is unbelievably amazingly freakingly wonderful. There is no sex better than that kind of sex, even if its awkward or missionary or whatever. Rar!

I can't get the same satisfaction masturbating :(. I don't know WHY I am saying this on a web forum but to me masturbating is like turning on a pressure release valve. No real pleasure derived from it just cleaning the plumbing. I have not had a real orgasm for going on 4 years. :(

I get totally different orgasms from masturbating, and from sex. Masturbating can be really, really hot if you've got the right motivation, but there is nothing worse than a lame orgasm. Well, a ruined orgasm is worse. But yeah. For me, the cumming isn't half as good as the sex, so masturbation is, as you said, sort of just a pressure release thing.

Just about anything I'd be willing to do with a girl after any number of dates. Hard to say, it really depends on reading how she reacts. There's a couple things I wouldn't do that aren't strictly taboo for me, such as giving oral sex or kissing on the lips. Me giving oral sex requires some serious emotion, and I don't kiss unless its a serious relationship.
I find that lately, I'm not super into giving head to guys other than GoG (whereas I have no problem going down on women, and quite enjoy it). Wasn't a conscious thing, I just don't enjoy it that much otherwise, so apparently right now for me, it's wrapped up in that 'serious emotion' you speak of :) Kissing...yup, that's not something I did with randoms. Weirdly enough, it's too 'intimate', despite the fact that you're willing to bump uglies with a person. But again, a bit of a shift...lately I really like kissing people. In fact, I think I'd be mostly content with a really good, sitting in someone's (clothed) lap, make-out session.

I need a make-out buddy :D

Hmph. Now that I'm officially mid-twenties, I no longer feel entirely comfortable with the idea of nailing someone under 20. Biggest age difference was when I was with someone 10 years older.
My rule of thumb has been not to date or sleep with someone younger than my youngest brother cuz just ewww.

Though as he ages, that's probably going to stop being a hard and fast rule. By the time I'm 42, I'll probably be picking up 18 year olds and eating them for breakfast.

Obviously you don't need to discuss anything. Just stick it in their pooper and hope for the best :)
I'll keep that in mind when we meet. Make sure you don't turn your back to me at any time :D

My rule of thumb has been not to date or sleep with someone younger than my youngest brother cuz just ewww.

Though as he ages, that's probably going to stop being a hard and fast rule. By the time I'm 42, I'll probably be picking up 18 year olds and eating them for breakfast.That's sort of been mine so far, now that my little brother is 20.

Oh, dear. 20 K posts...

My rule of thumb has been not to date or sleep with someone younger than my youngest brother cuz just ewww.

Though as he ages, that's probably going to stop being a hard and fast rule. By the time I'm 42, I'll probably be picking up 18 year olds and eating them for breakfast.


Makes sense. To me anybody my sister's age or younger (she's 4 years younger than me) is "a kid." I think that'll probably always be at least a little true. Maybe it's not accurate or good, but that's just how I think of people that age, as kids. Obviously then, certain ideas become really gross.

The fuck? I'm gone for ONE FUCKING NIGHT and this is what happens? Mur, Neesika, can't I take you two ANYWHERE nice?
Ahem. Everywhere we go automatically becomes nice.

Ahem. Everywhere we go automatically becomes nice.

This is a very nice thread. Full of nice people being nice to each other.


Actually, people really are being quite nice to each other on this thread. The atmosphere I'd describe as quite jovial, pleasant.

This is a very nice thread. Full of nice people being nice to each other.


Actually, people really are being quite nice to each other on this thread. The atmosphere I'd describe as quite jovial, pleasant.
Surprising, isn't it? ;)

Ahem. Everywhere we go automatically becomes nice.

hah, I stand corrected.

Ahem. Everywhere we go automatically becomes nice.
Oh you're good.
Surprising, isn't it? ;)

I have always found that sexual conversations help transcend political disagreements... and allows me to find common ground with certain people. Then I can actually engage them better on those political fronts, in a more honest, and respectful manner.

Not always mind you. But it works just as well in RL.

Oh you're good.


I have always found that sexual conversations help transcend political disagreements... and allows me to find common ground with certain people. Then I can actually engage them better on those political fronts, in a more honest, and respectful manner.

Not always mind you. But it works just as well in RL.
Heh, I've never had a problem going to war over politics even with real life lovers -- I mean to the "You stupid fucking moron, how can you even say such a thing!" level. Poor guys. Mur-sex-on and Mur-sex-off are two very different modes.

Heh, I've never had a problem going to war over politics even with real life lovers -- I mean to the "You stupid fucking moron, how can you even say such a thing!" level. Poor guys.

Let me clarify. The above, to me, is still honest and respectful, in my mind.

When I want to disrespect someone, I don't bother to engage their stupid ass at all.

:D

Heh, I've never had a problem going to war over politics even with real life lovers -- I mean to the "You stupid fucking moron, how can you even say such a thing!" level. Poor guys.

Yeah... I don't think I could be in a relationship with someone whose political opinions were too drastically different. There would be arguments. Bad ones. I mean, obviously no two people are going to agree on every single thing, nor would I want to, but having mostly common ground is good.

Yeah... I don't think I could be in a relationship with someone whose political opinions were too drastically different. There would be arguments. Bad ones. I mean, obviously no two people are going to agree on every single thing, nor would I want to, but having mostly common ground is good.But could you engage in a one (or more) night stand with them?

But could you engage in a one (or more) night stand with them?

What I can't do is fuck a hard core Conservative, if I know beforehand that he or she is one. I've been in the situation where I never knew if they were or not, neither before or after, and I've been in the situation where I did find out after...that was bearable. But not if I knew at the outset. No nookie for them. Not even a hate fuck.

I could not be in a serious relationship with someone so fundamentally wrong.

What I can't do is fuck a hard core Conservative, if I know beforehand that he or she is one. I've been in the situation where I never knew if they were or not, neither before or after, and I've been in the situation where I did find out after...that was bearable. But not if I knew at the outset. No nookie for them. Not even a hate fuck.

I could not be in a serious relationship with someone so fundamentally wrong.Not that I've ever been in the situation, but I don't think I'd mind terribly. It certainly reduces the risk of emotional attachment.

But could you engage in a one (or more) night stand with them?

Depends how far from me they are politically, and if I knew about it before hand. Anarcho-capitalist, neo-nazi, fundamentalist of just about any religion are unacceptable, even for a one night stand (one of those is also a bit improbable as well). Same with those who think bombing abortion clinics, beating the shit out of/murdering gays, etc. are in any way okay. I could probably sleep with a moderate republican/conservative/whatever. Probably wouldn't be a long term thing at all though. I tend to talk about politics a lot, and while debating can be interesting, I don't enjoy arguing quite that much. A moderate or somewhat liberal Christian I'd probably take perverse pleasure in sleeping with. I'd get off on that whole dirtying them with my heathen-ness thing.

I'm more a long-term relationship kind of guy, anyway, though.

Not that I've ever been in the situation, but I don't think I'd mind terribly. It certainly reduces the risk of emotional attachment.

Oh, well it's pretty simple for me. If I know that someone is hardcore conservative, they are no longer attractive. That's why it's only okay to find out after :D

I find that lately, I'm not super into giving head to guys other than GoG (whereas I have no problem going down on women, and quite enjoy it). Wasn't a conscious thing, I just don't enjoy it that much otherwise, so apparently right now for me, it's wrapped up in that 'serious emotion' you speak of :) Kissing...yup, that's not something I did with randoms. Weirdly enough, it's too 'intimate', despite the fact that you're willing to bump uglies with a person. But again, a bit of a shift...lately I really like kissing people. In fact, I think I'd be mostly content with a really good, sitting in someone's (clothed) lap, make-out session.

I need a make-out buddy :D

*raises three arms* I volunteer!

Oh, well it's pretty simple for me. If I know that someone is hardcore conservative, they are no longer attractive. That's why it's only okay to find out after :DWell, it might also be because I detest being submissive and prefer a dominant role in bed. The concept of telling someone that doesn't agree with me is kind of hot... =P

Oh, well it's pretty simple for me. If I know that someone is hardcore conservative, they are no longer attractive. That's why it's only okay to find out after :D

Hence why I didn't understand any of the people who thought Sarah Palin to be at all attractive. She was pretty much completely repulsive to me as soon as I knew who she was.

Alright! 21 pages, no real fights, some good info, and great interaction...

I'm off for a sex-packed weekend in Montreal, keep the flame burning folks!

Alright! 21 pages, no real fights, some good info, and great interaction...

I'm off for a sex-packed weekend in Montreal, keep the flame burning folks!

:eek:

have fun...

Well, it might also be because I detest being submissive and prefer a dominant role in bed. The concept of telling someone that doesn't agree with me is kind of hot... =P

Oooh, well that's actually pretty interesting! Yes, I do think it has something to do with my enjoyment of taking a submissive role during sex. I can't submit to someone who I fundamentally do not respect. Could I Domme a conservative? ooooh....you know, I think I could...I have a mean streak a kilometre wide too.

Well, it might also be because I detest being submissive and prefer a dominant role in bed. The concept of telling someone that doesn't agree with me is kind of hot... =P

Ah, see, I'm the opposite. I'm definitely the submissive when it comes the bedroom, at least most of the time. Strangely enough, I also have an authority problem. This doesn't really hamper the fun with my girlfriend because I absolutely adore her, and so her being in power over me is fine, because I trust her absolutely.

Conservatives I kinda inherently question the judgement of. So me and a conservative lady... would NOT work.

Alright! 21 pages, no real fights, some good info, and great interaction...

I'm off for a sex-packed weekend in Montreal, keep the flame burning folks!

Montreal!?!?!? That's a weird name for Las Vegas.

how the hell did it get to be that I have barely said anything in this thread?

Ahh well, NSG knows enough about my sex life...

how the hell did it get to be that I have barely said anything in this thread?

Ahh well, NSG knows enough about my sex life...

No it doesn't.

Oooh, well that's actually pretty interesting! Yes, I do think it has something to do with my enjoyment of taking a submissive role during sex. I can't submit to someone who I fundamentally do not respect. Could I Domme a conservative? ooooh....you know, I think I could...I have a mean streak a kilometre wide too.

"say it bitch! Say trickle down regonomics doesn't work! You like that huh? You like ensuring that the poor and working class have adequate education and access to health care, don't you?"

What I can't do is fuck a hard core Conservative, if I know beforehand that he or she is one. I've been in the situation where I never knew if they were or not, neither before or after, and I've been in the situation where I did find out after...that was bearable. But not if I knew at the outset. No nookie for them. Not even a hate fuck.

I could not be in a serious relationship with someone so fundamentally wrong.
I have known a few rightwingers who were so physically hot that, if it had come up, I probably would have done them once, just to say I hit that, but nothing more, not even if they were good in bed.

However, if they are SO far from me politically that, to me, they seem delusional -- the "yes, there were too WMDs and Saddam was bin Laden's boyfriend!!!" types -- then no way. I can't fuck a crazy person. To me, putting a crazy brain in a hot body is just one of fate's cruel jokes.

Depends how far from me they are politically, and if I knew about it before hand. Anarcho-capitalist, neo-nazi, fundamentalist of just about any religion are unacceptable, even for a one night stand (one of those is also a bit improbable as well). Same with those who think bombing abortion clinics, beating the shit out of/murdering gays, etc. are in any way okay. I could probably sleep with a moderate republican/conservative/whatever. Probably wouldn't be a long term thing at all though. I tend to talk about politics a lot, and while debating can be interesting, I don't enjoy arguing quite that much. A moderate or somewhat liberal Christian I'd probably take perverse pleasure in sleeping with. I'd get off on that whole dirtying them with my heathen-ness thing.

I'm more a long-term relationship kind of guy, anyway, though.
I had a very religious Muslim lover once. He was great and sweet and all, but his religion was always hovering around the edges of everything, and it was the number two reason I broke up with him after just two months. I just got really tired of hearing about it all the time. I see him around town now and then, and it's very friendly between us. I'd bang with him again, if he could learn to deal with the religion thing.

Also, I spent two years in a relationship with a guy who was terrific in bed, but anytime we weren't having sex, he'd pick fights with me over politics and history (about both of which he was woefully ignorant, despite his "poli-sci degree"). I figured he just liked to argue, and as time went on, I suspected he had commitment issues which would calm down when he realized I didn't want to get married. But then he admitted that the only reason he picked these fights was a sexist one -- it bothered him that his "girlfriend" would argue with him about intellectual things, and he was trying to wear me down. *Waits for laughter to die down*

He's the one I've mentioned before, the one who the last words I said to him, while holding a kitchen knife, were, "Get out of my house!" He's the only ex I still hate.

*chuckles*

Alright! 21 pages, no real fights, some good info, and great interaction...

I'm off for a sex-packed weekend in Montreal, keep the flame burning folks!
Bringing your own partner? ;)

"say it bitch! Say trickle down regonomics doesn't work! You like that huh? You like ensuring that the poor and working class have adequate education and access to health care, don't you?"
Very nearly snorted coffee. :D

"say it bitch! Say trickle down regonomics doesn't work! You like that huh? You like ensuring that the poor and working class have adequate education and access to health care, don't you?"No: "Shut up and give me head."

I have known a few rightwingers who were so physically hot that, if it had come up, I probably would have done them once, just to say I hit that, but nothing more, not even if they were good in bed.

However, if they are SO far from me politically that, to me, they seem delusional -- the "yes, there were too WMDs and Saddam was bin Laden's boyfriend!!!" types -- then no way. I can't fuck a crazy person. To me, putting a crazy brain in a hot body is just one of fate's cruel jokes.
Yeah, I just can't deal with delusional. Hence, no Anarcho-Capitalists for me. Or neo-nazis.


I had a very religious Muslim lover once. He was great and sweet and all, but his religion was always hovering around the edges of everything, and it was the number two reason I broke up with him after just two months. I just got really tired of hearing about it all the time. I see him around town now and then, and it's very friendly between us. I'd bang with him again, if he could learn to deal with the religion thing.
I think I could perhaps have a relationship with a Christian, provided she was a fairly liberal one, you know, the peace and love kind, not the fire and brimstone kind. But it still might be an issue. If someone was trying to convert me, there would be problems.

Also, I spent two years in a relationship with a guy who was terrific in bed, but anytime we weren't having sex, he'd pick fights with me over politics and history (about both of which he was woefully ignorant, despite his "poli-sci degree"). I figured he just liked to argue, and as time went on, I suspected he had commitment issues which would calm down when he realized I didn't want to get married. But then he admitted that the only reason he picked these fights was a sexist one -- it bothered him that his "girlfriend" would argue with him about intellectual things, and he was trying to wear me down. *Waits for laughter to die down*

He's the one I've mentioned before, the one who the last words I said to him, while holding a kitchen knife, were, "Get out of my house!" He's the only ex I still hate.

See, that's weird to me. For me, one of the basic requirements in a long term relationship is that the other person be intelligent. Ideally, noticeably more intelligent than me. That is a total turn on.

I've heard of guys feeling threatened by the women they're dating being smarter than them. I don't really get it. To me, that is a situation that is highly desirable.

My wife and I are going on a 'first date' this weekend with her best friend and husband to the grand opening of a BDSM swing club that welcomes straight, bi, gay, TS, TG...

The club has JUST moved to Vegas from San Francisco.

Normally the swing clubs around Vegas don't allow bi guys to get it on so obviously gays and TG's are not allowed to play either; We are excited about checking this place out. Also, this will be the only non-smoking swing club in Vegas which is a relief.

My etiquette question is: Who gets to tie who up first?

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You mean telegrams are there getting it on?
(I just had to make that joke. And, I know it was stupid.)

See, that's weird to me. For me, one of the basic requirements in a long term relationship is that the other person be intelligent. Ideally, noticeably more intelligent than me. That is a total turn on.

I've heard of guys feeling threatened by the women they're dating being smarter than them. I don't really get it. To me, that is a situation that is highly desirable.
Oh, he wasn't dumb. Smart and stupid are not mutually exclusive conditions. He was very intelligent, just stupid about certain things, which turned out to be rather vital in the end. And he didn't want me to be dumb; he just wanted me to be submissive. But, obviously, the stupidest thing he did was try to dominate me (funny in its own right, if you could have met the guy) on his areas of greatest weakness. If he had wanted to hear me say "yes, dear" and "whatever you say, dear, I'm sure you're right" all day long, he should have talked about math, not politics, history or the arts.

My wife and I are going on a 'first date' this weekend with her best friend and husband to the grand opening of a BDSM swing club that welcomes straight, bi, gay, TS, TG...

The club has JUST moved to Vegas from San Francisco.

Normally the swing clubs around Vegas don't allow bi guys to get it on so obviously gays and TG's are not allowed to play either; We are excited about checking this place out. Also, this will be the only non-smoking swing club in Vegas which is a relief.

My etiquette question is: Who gets to tie who up first?
Sorry, you're on your own there. But I wonder, how do such faux pas play out in swing clubs?

Oh, he wasn't dumb. Smart and stupid are not mutually exclusive conditions. He was very intelligent, just stupid about certain things, which turned out to be rather vital in the end. And he didn't want me to be dumb; he just wanted me to be submissive. But, obviously, the stupidest thing he did was try to dominate me (funny in its own right, if you could have met the guy) on his areas of greatest weakness. If he had wanted to hear me say "yes, dear" and "whatever you say, dear, I'm sure you're right" all day long, he should have talked about math, not politics, history or the arts.

True, being smart in one area doesn't mean one excels at everything.

I'm more knowledgeable on things like history, politics and music than my ladyfriend. She totally owns me at anything math or science related, and pretty much anything visual art related as well.

True, being smart in one area doesn't mean one excels at everything.

I'm more knowledgeable on things like history, politics and music than my ladyfriend. She totally owns me at anything math or science related, and pretty much anything visual art related as well.
Well, that was just it -- that's where his stupidity lay. He didn't want to just show off how smart he was. He wanted to beat me on my turf. Only his kungfu was not good enough.

But I got a lot of orgasms out of him before I sent him running from that kitchen knife. I think that was one of the reasons I still resent him so much. By running his dumb-ass mouth, he caused me to lose a good sex source. Selfish bastard. ;)

Well, that was just it -- that's where his stupidity lay. He didn't want to just show off how smart he was. He wanted to beat me on my turf. Only his kungfu was not good enough.

But I got a lot of orgasms out of him before I sent him running from that kitchen knife. I think that was one of the reasons I still resent him so much. By running his dumb-ass mouth, he caused me to lose a good sex source. Selfish bastard. ;)I think I've heard you tell the knife story before...

-snip-

You mean telegrams are there getting it on?
(I just had to make that joke. And, I know it was stupid.)

I hope you are ashamed of yourself :tongue:


Sorry, you're on your own there. But I wonder, how do such faux pas play out in swing clubs?


I'm not sure. We've only been to one other swing club actually. Didn't want to go to anymore because of the smoking everywhere. Researching other swing clubs, I found that they all allowed smoking in all parts of the club. This one (Power Exchange) is non-smoking inside but has a large smoking patio.

There is a lot of swinger etiquette available online that I could read through but tl;dr :D

Well, that was just it -- that's where his stupidity lay. He didn't want to just show off how smart he was. He wanted to beat me on my turf. Only his kungfu was not good enough.

But I got a lot of orgasms out of him before I sent him running from that kitchen knife. I think that was one of the reasons I still resent him so much. By running his dumb-ass mouth, he caused me to lose a good sex source. Selfish bastard. ;)

Such a shame that he had an issue with you being better at debating history and politics than he was.

I think I've heard you tell the knife story before...
I have.

I hope you are ashamed of yourself :tongue:


A bit, yeah. But, not so much.

"say it bitch! Say trickle down regonomics doesn't work! You like that huh? You like ensuring that the poor and working class have adequate education and access to health care, don't you?"
I'm sending you my cleaning bill, thanks.

No: "Shut up and give me head."
No, I actually like the above :D

Bringing your own partner? ;)

Well I'm bringing my strap on, but GoG is there :D

I'm only here because my stupid hair (all one inch of it) is actually taking a while to dry. Damn stupid hair.

Normally the swing clubs around Vegas don't allow bi guys to get it on so obviously gays and TG's are not allowed to play either; We are excited about checking this place out. Also, this will be the only non-smoking swing club in Vegas which is a relief.

My etiquette question is: Who gets to tie who up first?
Etiquette:

MAKE SURE THE CONDOM DOESN'T SLIP OFF WHEN YOU PULL OUT!!!!

Don't talk to us when I'm going down on my Mistress, especially when I'm pretty sure I was just about to make her cum. And don't pretend you have a hot girlfriend, cuz there's enough light to see you in and you're fugly beyond belief. And no, you don't get to fuck us.

If you want in on the action, don't wander off while someone else is enjoying. That's just bad form and you don't get back in the line.

Wipe off the surfaces you've secreted onto, please thanks.

Don't ever, ever approach someone else's sub without talking to their Dom/Domme first.

Be nice:)

Etiquette:

MAKE SURE THE CONDOM DOESN'T SLIP OFF WHEN YOU PULL OUT!!!!

Don't talk to us when I'm going down on my Mistress, especially when I'm pretty sure I was just about to make her cum. And don't pretend you have a hot girlfriend, cuz there's enough light to see you in and you're fugly beyond belief. And no, you don't get to fuck us.

If you want in on the action, don't wander off while someone else is enjoying. That's just bad form and you don't get back in the line.

Wipe off the surfaces you've secreted onto, please thanks.

Don't ever, ever approach someone else's sub without talking to their Dom/Domme first.

Be nice:)


Ahahahahah - ahhh yeah - memories...

We'll let you know if it's worth it. ;)

Well, that was just it -- that's where his stupidity lay. He didn't want to just show off how smart he was. He wanted to beat me on my turf. Only his kungfu was not good enough.

hmm...I think I can take ya.

No: "Shut up and give me head."

pft, if she has to be told, you're doing it wrong.

pft, if she has to be told, you're doing it wrong.Just cuz you're being dominant doesn't mean you have to be impolite =D

hmm...I think I can take ya.

Ouch.

Even if it gets her as moist as a snack cake?

Ouch.

hey, what can I say, I enjoy the challenge.

hey, what can I say, I enjoy the challenge.

We know, senpai.:wink:

Even if it gets her as moist as a snack cake?

Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist.

Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist.

and zero calories!

Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist.

Look at me still talking when there's science to do
When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
I've experiments to run, there is research to be done
On the people who are still alive

Look at me still talking when there's science to do
When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you
I've experiments to run, there is research to be done
On the people who are still alive

And believe me I am still alive!

and zero calories!

you missed the reference :p

you missed the reference :p

well damn it - I haven't played Portal. :(

Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist.

Whatever you do, do not order the lobster.

hey, what can I say, I enjoy the challenge.
I hope you enjoy the losing, too. :tongue:

But could you engage in a one (or more) night stand with them?

Hmm... I have, once. It was more trouble than it was worth, really.

Whatever you do, do not order the lobster.

I don't like lobster anyway.

well damn it - I haven't played Portal. :(

Blasphemy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthZgszykLs

I hope you enjoy the losing, too. :tongue:

so confident you are

I hope you enjoy the losing, too. :tongue:

so confident you are


Sweet! Showdown! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI)

:D

In a recent conversation, the subject of first date etiquette came up, and so I wanted some feedback from NSG. Anal. Okay on a first date? Or something you save for the second date? Would you bring it up soon? Is that a faux pas?

What about other activities? Is there some 'magic number' of dates before you get really kinky with someone? I mean, the whole 'first base, second base, third base' thing is definitely passe...but when is (for example) urinating on your partner something you'd discuss? Fifth date? Ninth?

Just what are you comfortable with, and when?


Edit: "Date" just may be a euphemism for sleeping with, depending on your viewpoint.

If anal is important to you (it certainly is for me). I reccomend that you discuss it fairly early on. In the off chance that your date is not into it or at least willing to give it a chance, why waste your time with someone that you will just end up unhappy with? Within the first two weeks of dating my wife I let her know about three things that she would just have to accept if she planned to remain with me and that was one of them.

If urinating on your partner is important to you (it is not really all that important to me) you should let them know about it. I doubt that they will have a huge problem with it but if it is really important to you and something that is a big turn off to them then it is best for all that you recognize that problem early on.

I feel like I should post something, but lurking on this thread is just way to awesome at this point.

All I have to say after reading this whole thread is...wow.

On the anal topic, I am all for it, just not on the first date. Anal is something, IMO, you must be in the mood for and something one does only after one gets to know the person one is sleeping with. It is, yes, a faux pas to bring on for the first or second date.

I am ready and comfortable with almost anything but being defecated or urinated in. I like experimentation but I would only go for über-kinky stuff after a while. After, perhaps the first month (5th or 6th date) of the relationship or later.

I feel like I should post something, but lurking on this thread is just way to awesome at this point.

All I have to say after reading this whole thread is...wow.

NSGers are pretty kinky, aren't we?

On the anal topic, I am all for it, just not on the first date. Anal is something, IMO, you must be in the mood for and something one does only after one gets to know the person one is sleeping with. It is, yes, a faux pas to bring on for the first or second date.

I am ready and comfortable with almost anything but being defecated or urinated in. I like experimentation but I would only go for über-kinky stuff after a while. After, perhaps the first month (5th or 6th date) of the relationship or later.

:eek:

I sense you are with a very happy man. :D

:eek:

I sense you are with a very happy man. :D

I can only hope he is a happy man, indeed.:)

:eek:

I sense you are with a very happy man. :D

Of course she is. If whatever man Nanatsu's with is not happy, he damn well should be. She's awesome.

Of course she is. If whatever man Nanatsu's with is not happy, he damn well should be. She's awesome.

Say, what do you think about anal, Calli-kun?:D

Say, what do you think about anal, Calli-kun?:D

Couldn't be more enthusiastic, really. ;)

Couldn't be more enthusiastic, really. ;)

*writes that down*
:D

Anal on the table, Kat? Beds, rugs and the back of the couch not good enough?

This post is the winner.

NSGers are pretty kinky, aren't we?

In the case of the more enutheastic posters in this thread, I was already aware. It just never got this detailed.

*writes that down*
:D

Glad to be of service.

Are you keeping records of everybody's sex kinks for nefarious purposes?

In the case of the more enutheastic posters in this thread, I was already aware. It just never got this detailed.

Yeah, there should probably be a warning on this thread, since a lot of the stuff on it might be considered pretty serious overshare.

That's something my friends accuse me of a lot. Overshare.

This discussion makes me so queasy I'm on the verge of turning into a conservative :p

Sorry to informyou of this DI but even us conservatives do anal and pee pee stuff. One's political views have nothing to do with what one likes to do with little or no clothing on.

I love anal, threesomes, guns, protective trade policy, the abolition of the public dole, and a good flat tax.

I kinda like the idea of sex in the shower, against the wall. :p

I kinda like the idea of sex in the shower, against the wall. :p

Yes, I'd agree. Very sexy. Showers are fun anyway because of being all wet and warm and slippery. Especially with the soap. It feels great to rub up against each other when you're all soapy.

Yeah, there should probably be a warning on this thread, since a lot of the stuff on it might be considered pretty serious overshare.

That's something my friends accuse me of a lot. Overshare.

I dont mean to convey that it bothered me. My "wow" was more because its...kind of hot.

I kinda like the idea of sex in the shower, against the wall. :p

Sounds a little bit slippery. I think this sounds dangerous. I like sex in a bed or on a nice low table like a coffee table. It is hard to get hurt doing it on a bed or on a coffee table.

Glad to be of service.

Are you keeping records of everybody's sex kinks for nefarious purposes?

Me?! Nefarious intents? By Jove, I'm a little angel.:eek:

But you know, if I´m ever in Cali and you're in a playful mode...




:D

I dont mean to convey that it bothered me. My "wow" was more because its...kind of hot.

Yes, this is definitely one of NSG's steamier threads.

Sounds a little bit slippery. I think this sounds dangerous. I like sex in a bed or on a nice low table like a coffee table. It is hard to get hurt doing it on a bed or on a coffee table.

Nah, you just gotta do it right. :D

I'm not even sure if I should be surprised by this thread anymore. :p

Ah, screw it. ICBFTC.

I'm not even sure if I should be surprised by this thread anymore. :p

Ah, screw it. ICBFTC.

ICBFTC? What does that mean?

ICBFTC? What does that mean?I can't be fucked to care.

Me?! Nefarious intents? By Jove, I'm a little angel.:eek:

my ass

Nah, you just gotta do it right. :D

It seems reckless. How is it done "right" so that safety concerns are nullified?

I can't be fucked to care.

If I fuck you, trust me, you'll care.

Me?! Nefarious intents? By Jove, I'm a little angel.:eek:

But you know, if I´m ever in Cali and you're in a playful mode...

:D

If I were single, I totally would be in a playful mood. I'm pretty sure my ladyfriend would take issue though, as it is, of me being too... playful... with others... even hot awesome anime nerd women from Spain. Such is life.

But.... you never know.

Oh, and please please please please, not "Cali." I know, it seems like a really silly pet peeve, but I don't know, something about the way it sounds said aloud just kinda bugs me. I have no idea why, lol.

Sorry to informyou of this DI but even us conservatives do anal and pee pee stuff. One's political views have nothing to do with what one likes to do with little or no clothing on.

I love anal, threesomes, guns, protective trade policy, the abolition of the public dole, and a good flat tax.



Yep - as a swinger I have found that conservatives make up the majority of swingers.

If I fuck you, trust me, you'll care.I would, but I don't see that happening. :D

my ass

Your ass? I could hit it, if you allow me to.

Your ass? I could hit it, if you allow me to.

oh dear, you should know, I'm the one who does the hitting...

Sounds a little bit slippery. I think this sounds dangerous. I like sex in a bed or on a nice low table like a coffee table. It is hard to get hurt doing it on a bed or on a coffee table.

The sexy slipperiness is the whole point of taking a shower together.

oh dear, you should know, I'm the one who does the hitting...

Oh my, that's true. My apologies, senpai.:p

Yep - as a swinger I have found that conservatives make up the majority of swingers.

That seems... inconsistent. But whatever.

Yep - as a swinger I have found that conservatives make up the majority of swingers.

I never did the whole swinging thing but I think I am one at heart. I am just a little too shy to get started. I doubt that swingers are typically liberal or conservative. If swingers tend to be conservative, I am sure it is a coincidence. Everyone has sex and to think that only conservatives or liberals are a little on the pervy side is juvenile. There should be no relation between those two aspects of someone's life.

The sexy slipperiness is the whole point of taking a shower together.

it works far worse than you'd think. Water, especially "hard" water which is what most people have in their shower unless they have a water softener, is actually not at all slippery in the way it needs to be.

If I were single, I totally would be in a playful mood. I'm pretty sure my ladyfriend would take issue though, as it is, of me being too... playful... with others... even hot awesome anime nerd women from Spain. Such is life.

But.... you never know.

Oh, and please please please please, not "Cali." I know, it seems like a really silly pet peeve, but I don't know, something about the way it sounds said aloud just kinda bugs me. I have no idea why, lol.

All's good, all's good.:D

And California it is, then.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/picture.php?albumid=65&pictureid=277

That seems... inconsistent. But whatever.
...Consistency, from conservatives? :eek:
Well, they're consistent on some things, but not so much on others.

If I fuck you, trust me, you'll care.

Depends on how good you are sweety.

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/picture.php?albumid=65&pictureid=277

oh come on, the original thread was asking when is a good time to tell your date that you liked to be slapped in your face and fucked up the ass.

Is this REALLY a derailment?

All's good, all's good.:D

And California it is, then.

I'm glad all's good. I'd hate to disappoint.

I don't mind the postal abbreviation, "CA," though that probably also stands for Canada or something.

Depends on how good you are sweety.

KoL, darling, I detest bragging.:wink:

oh come on, the original thread was asking when is a good time to tell your date that you liked to be slapped in your face and fucked up the ass.

Is this REALLY a derailment?

That image is for humorous effect mate. ;)

oh come on, the original thread was asking when is a good time to tell your date that you liked to be slapped in your face and fucked up the ass.

Is this REALLY a derailment?

Slaps in the face while fucking? >.>
Sign me up!!

The sexy slipperiness is the whole point of taking a shower together.

Well there are two types of slippery. There is the whole fun slippery where bodies slide against each other. Then there is gangerous slippery where someone loses their footing and hits their head, and breaks a tooth or something else. If people want to be slippery there are safer places to do it than a shower. Now maybe a large public style shower might be better...

it works far worse than you'd think. Water, especially "hard" water which is what most people have in their shower unless they have a water softener, is actually not at all slippery in the way it needs to be.

The water in my shower at home works just fine. But my hometown's tapwater is actually pretty good, in taste as well. It's not very hard at all, really.

Slaps in the face while fucking? >.>
Sign me up!!

Kinky devil. :D

oh come on, the original thread was asking when is a good time to tell your date that you liked to be slapped in your face and fucked up the ass.

Is this REALLY a derailment?

I do not recall faceslappery discussed early on. I have been slapped by girls but never in a sexy way.

That seems... inconsistent. But whatever.

Yeah, I don't know why but it's true.

I never did the whole swinging thing but I think I am one at heart. I am just a little too shy to get started. I doubt that swingers are typically liberal or conservative. If swingers tend to be conservative, I am sure it is a coincidence. Everyone has sex and to think that only conservatives or liberals are a little on the pervy side is juvenile. There should be no relation between those two aspects of someone's life.


Well on the swinger sites I go to this is brought up a lot and the swingers self-identify as conservatives usually. Most of the polls in the forum threads that ask this question also pan out that way.

I'm not saying I know why or that liberals aren't pervy. Things don't have to be so black and white.

That seems... inconsistent. But whatever.

How does it seem inconsistent? Maybe you have some preconceived notions about us conservatives?

Kinky devil. :D

*bows*

Well there are two types of slippery. There is the whole fun slippery where bodies slide against each other. Then there is gangerous slippery where someone loses their footing and hits their head, and breaks a tooth or something else. If people want to be slippery there are safer places to do it than a shower. Now maybe a large public style shower might be better...

No shower mats? Hmmm.

What I can't do is fuck a hard core Conservative, if I know beforehand that he or she is one. I've been in the situation where I never knew if they were or not, neither before or after, and I've been in the situation where I did find out after...that was bearable. But not if I knew at the outset. No nookie for them. Not even a hate fuck.

I could not be in a serious relationship with someone so fundamentally wrong.

I'm actually pretty much the same way. To me, my politics centres around the fact that I basically care. To me, my sex centres around the fact that I care.

I can't imagine trying to engage someone politically, or horizontally, that I didn't think cared.

oh come on, the original thread was asking when is a good time to tell your date that you liked to be slapped in your face and fucked up the ass.

Is this REALLY a derailment?http://www.oswald.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/bunny-pancake.jpg

Yeah, I don't know why but it's true.




Well on the swinger sites I go to this is brought up a lot and the swingers self-identify as conservatives usually. Most of the polls in the forum threads that ask this question also pan out that way.

I'm not saying I know why or that liberals aren't pervy. Things don't have to be so black and white.

Any advice for a fairly shy couple that is probably interested in getting in to swinging?

Slaps in the face while fucking? >.>
Sign me up!!

I prefer being bitten. Hard.

Any advice for a farily shy couple that is probably interested in getting in to swinging?

Talk it over, really well.

http://www.oswald.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/bunny-pancake.jpg

I love that picture so much.

I prefer being bitten. Hard.

I like that too... but I'll refrain from discussing much or I'll be deemed a sexual deviant and... no... wait... I bet it has happened already so fuck it. :D

I love that picture so much.I know, it's hilarious. :p

I like that too... but I'll refrain from discussing much or I'll be deemed a sexual deviant and... no... wait... I bet it has happened already so fuck it. :D

Bitten until blood comes out? :D

(I get the feeling this thread is gonna be locked. )

How does it seem inconsistent? Maybe you have some preconceived notions about us conservatives?

Given the recent harping on the sanctity of marriage in my state, yeah, I suppose I do.

But like many preconceived notions, they're frequently incorrect, I see. Interesting.

Bitten until blood comes out? :D

(I get the feeling this thread is gonna be locked. )

I hope not, we're not flaming or anything. It's just harmless sex talk.:D

I know, it's hilarious. :p

As well as hella cute. Totally adorable.

This is probably the most successful thread I've ever seen. 430+ posts in a little more than a day.

I like that too... but I'll refrain from discussing much or I'll be deemed a sexual deviant and... no... wait... I bet it has happened already so fuck it. :D

Nanatsu, people have talked about getting peed on in this thread. Probably almost everyone who has posted in this thread could be labelled a sexual deviant.

On the anal topic, I am all for it, just not on the first date. Anal is something, IMO, you must be in the mood for and something one does only after one gets to know the person one is sleeping with. It is, yes, a faux pas to bring on for the first or second date.


Even if I buy you coffee?

I'm actually pretty much the same way. To me, my politics centres around the fact that I basically care. To me, my sex centres around the fact that I care.

I can't imagine trying to engage someone politically, or horizontally, that I didn't think cared.

I do not know what your politics are but people who disagree with you probably care a lot but maybe about different things or in different ways. I am a conservative. What I care about may be different than you but I still care an awful lot. I care about the environment, the disabled, the economy, education, human rights, etc. The people that do not care are not the ones that are liberal or conservative but the ones that do nothing and believe nothing. There are plenty of those folks out there.

Conservatives tend to think that liberals do not care because liberals do not tend to give money to charity and conservatives do. Liberals tend to think that conservatives dont care because they do not like welfare. If both sides could step outside of their disagreement and recognize that they both care about the same things it would go along way towards tearing down social barriers.

I have had sex with liberals. I do not see anything wrong with that.

Bitten until blood comes out? :D

(I get the feeling this thread is gonna be locked. )

Yes. Hard enough to draw blood is ideal.

I love anal, threesomes, guns, protective trade policy, the abolition of the public dole, and a good flat tax.

This made me laugh...

Nanatsu, people have talked about getting peed on in this thread. Probably almost everyone who has posted in this thread could be labelled a sexual deviant.

peeing is no big deal.

This is probably the most successful thread I've ever seen. 430+ posts in a little more than a day.

I think it should be archived, as one of the greatest threads ever.

Any advice for a fairly shy couple that is probably interested in getting in to swinging?

Join a social networking swinging sites and just browse to learn.

Watch the Swingtown series.

Go to swing clubs in your area and just watch. You aren't under any obligation to do anything with anyone (many just like to do fuck in public and don't want others to join). No is respected 99.99999999999999% of the time.

Participate in discussions on swing site forums.

My wife and I are very shy too, and have met our swinger friends mostly online. Then we meet them for a drink to see if they are someone we are attracted to and get along with.

Talking to your girl about what you both fantasize about and how far you are initially willing to go is a good idea. Talk about the rules you'd have for each other. Most people start out slow and move on to crazier things later if they so desire.

Yes. Hard enough to draw blood is ideal.

Which I then plan to drink. :)

Nanatsu, people have talked about getting peed on in this thread. Probably almost everyone who has posted in this thread could be labelled a sexual deviant.

Well, the idea of being bitten on the neck while on the verge of orgasm and of feeling the tang of blood on my mouth after biting my lover, is just a hell of a turn-on... for me, that is.

Yes, I am that freaky!:cool:

This made me laugh...

I am glad that I brought you a little joy.

my ass

Neo opens the bidding?

:D

I always have set limits for like a month before trying anything sexual with someone.

Kinky devil. :D

Wait... what? That's kinky?

Neo opens the bidding?

:D

No one, no one can own that sweet ass.

*sighs*

Well, the idea of being bitten on the neck while on the verge of orgasm and of feeling the tang of blood on my mouth after biting my lover, is just a hell of a turn-on... for me, that is.

Yes, I am that freaky!:cool:

Woah! Have you ever told this to your boyfriend? If your boyfriend was a little nervous about injuring you by biting your neck (as I would be if I was him), would you be happy if he licked blood from a small safe nick and then gave you a smooch?

Wait... what? That's kinky?

Well, yes... :p

Woah! Have you ever told this to your boyfriend? If your boyfriend was a little nervous about injuring you by biting your neck (as I would be if I was him), would you be happy if he licked blood from a small safe nick and then gave you a smooch?

Yes, I have discussed this with my fiancé. It turns him on, quite a lot to the point of him doing it to me and I to him.

As for the bloodied kiss, oh my, you just made my mind run wild with several recollections...:fluffle:

Well, the idea of being bitten on the neck while on the verge of orgasm and of feeling the tang of blood on my mouth after biting my lover, is just a hell of a turn-on... for me, that is.

Yes, I am that freaky!:cool:

That's awesome.

I always have set limits for like a month before trying anything sexual with someone.

Why?

Well, the idea of being bitten on the neck while on the verge of orgasm and of feeling the tang of blood on my mouth after biting my lover, is just a hell of a turn-on... for me, that is.

Yes, I am that freaky!:cool:

As an aside - the realisation of this particular fantasy is just as good as the fantasy. (But you should always be careful with any play where blood is drawn).

Slaps in the face while fucking? >.>
Sign me up!!

deal

Well, yes... :p

My goalposts are soooo skewed, then. But then, golden showers don't count as kinky to me either, so I should have known that already.

As an aside - the realisation of this particular fantasy is just as good as the fantasy. (But you should always be careful with any play where blood is drawn).

Oh yes, we are always careful not too do it too often nor to hurt the other too much. It is after all risky and the dangers are present so we take each other's well being into consideration all the time.

My goalposts are soooo skewed, then. But then, golden showers don't count as kinky to me either, so I should have known that already.

I'm not really into the idea of getting peed on. :eek:

Yes, I have discussed this with my fiancé. It turns him on, quite a lot to the point of him doing it to me and I to him.

As for the bloodied kiss, oh my, you just made my mind run wild with several recollections...:fluffle:

Do you cause the bleeding with a bite or with a razor blade or something? Where on the neck are you cut? A cut on the front of the neck sounds kinda dangerous. I am all for kink but I do not want to see anyone getting injured.

Do you cause the bleeding with a bite or with a razor blade or something? Where on the neck are you cut? A cut on the front of the neck sounds kinda dangerous. I am all for kink but I do not want to see anyone getting injured.

He uses a small knife, scalpel-like and he cuts where the shoulder meets the neck articulation. A superficial cut of course, enough so that some drops pop to the surface of the skin. I like the little sting of the cut and the sensation of having his mouth fastened to this cut.

I'm not really into the idea of getting peed on. :eek:

Some folks love it! I have found that it is kinda tricky for me as a male to perform very well in the peeing department when I am receiving oral or any other stimulation that causes me to rise to meet the occasion so to speak. It is a little tricky for my shmeckel to do two things at once.

He uses a small knife, scalpel-like and he cuts where the shoulder meets the neck articulation. A superficial cut of course, enough so that some drops pop to the surface of the skin. I like the little sting of the cut and the sensation of having his mouth fastened to this cut.

Yes that sounds ok. I mean it sounds good from a safety perspective. I do not think I am going to ask a woman to act like a leech on me or anything but it sounds like you guys are fairly safe about it.

My girl wants to drink my blood from my thigh... :D

Alas, I must leave this thread of awesome kinkiness temporarily in order to go to class. I will return, though...

My girl wants to drink my blood from my thigh... :D

Up until today I have only known of one couple that suckled from each others' circulatory system. The thigh is where they did it to each other. I am not into the whole mosquitoesque loving but if I was I think the neck sounds much sexier.

My girl wants to drink my blood from my thigh... :D

Watch out for the femoral artery :eek:

Watch out for the femoral artery :eek:

That requires a deep cut.

Up until today I have only known of one couple that suckled from each others' circulatory system. The thigh is where they did it to each other. I am not into the whole mosquitoesque loving but if I was I think the neck sounds much sexier.

It is much sexier. Feeling the pulse of the one you love kind of, beating under your lips as you suck on the blood is... wow... amazing. You're technically holding that person's heart on your lips.

Watch out for the femoral artery :eek:

I think that the whole thigh blood sucking should be done right, a crazy straw should be involved somehow!!!:p

It is much sexier. Feeling the pulse of the one you love kind of, beating under your lips as you suck on the blood is... wow... amazing. You're technically holding that person's heart on your lips.

Wow you just described something I am so not into in a way that is so darn sexy!

Wow you just described something I am so not into in a way that is so darn sexy!

Always happy to serve.:D

I declare this thread on par, if not greater than, the babe thread. I love you guys.I'm getting lots of good ideas for tonight, when my lovely comes over for the night... I'd forgotten how much I like biting... hmmm.

Also, Nanatsu, you should start writing erotic fiction. That was bloody hawt!

So how long did you bloodsuckers and bloodsuckees wait until you let your partner know that you needed some hot bloody loving?

Also, Nanatsu, you should start writing erotic fiction. That was bloody hawt!

I've been telling her that a long time. :D

So how long did you bloodsuckers and bloodsuckees wait until you let your partner know that you needed some hot bloody loving?

That's a question that shouldn't be asked and if I give you an answer, it could be used against me in a court of law.:eek2:


Sval, thanks.:wink:

Zero, hush. Don't make me go Kuran Kaname on yo' butt.

so confident you are
Against you? Yeah. :tongue:

Sweet! Showdown! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI)

:D
Heh, I wouldn't bet on him, if I were you, EG.

Btw, I love that movie theme. :D

Well, turned out I took way too long in the shower and so I'd miss like half of class anyway, so I'm back.

Zero, hush. Don't make me go Kuran Kaname on yo' butt.

Of course, no one would like that now... :D

So... more kinky stuff.

Analingus. Would you give? Would you receive? Would you bring it up? Would you be worried about the health concerns of such activity?

So... more kinky stuff.

Analingus. Would you give? Would you receive? Would you bring it up? Would you be worried about the health concerns of such activity?

Erm... licking someones butt is not my cup of tea. Licking the other side? I'm all for it. :)

Well, turned out I took way too long in the shower and so I'd miss like half of class anyway, so I'm back.

Well then, welcome back to the delicious den of NSG sin! You were expected.

Erm... licking someones butt is not my cup of tea. Licking the other side? I'm all for it. :)

Must... resist... urge to... post about... subject...

GAH!!!

Must... resist... urge to... post about... subject...

GAH!!!

That's what this thread is for, lol.

Are you implying you have first hand knowledge?

That's what this thread is for, lol.

Are you implying you have first hand knowledge?

<_<

That's what this thread is for, lol.

Are you implying you have first hand knowledge?

I really should stop reading this thread. And I'll stop real soon. Maybe.

I really should stop reading this thread. And I'll stop real soon. Maybe.

Maybe being the key word there.

Maybe being the key word there.

Yeah.

I really should stop reading this thread. And I'll stop real soon. Maybe.

You are hopelessly hooked to the sexual deviations of NSG. Admit it! You cannot stop!

That's what this thread is for, lol.

Are you implying you have first hand knowledge?

Stop. That. Now. :D

Stop. That. Now. :D

But... but... kinkiness... :(

But... but... kinkiness... :(

Oh yes, yes! YES! That's the stuff! Do it to me baby! Yes, yeeeeeees!

Oh yes, yes! YES! That's the stuff! Do it to me baby! Yes, yeeeeeees!

Erm... methinks Neko-Chan is taking this a bit too seriously... :eek:

Stop. That. Now. :D

trying...

but...

soo...

hard...

Oh yes, yes! YES! That's the stuff! Do it to me baby! Yes, yeeeeeees!

Ok, hands up all those needing a cold shower! :tongue:

You are hopelessly hooked to the sexual deviations of NSG. Admit it! You cannot stop!

Quite possible. probability being about 3 to 1.

trying...

but...

soo...

hard...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Where's that Sarah Palin gif: So hot, my pussy! when one needs it?!

NSG... you will never find a more disturbing hive of horndogs and erotica. :D

Oh yes, yes! YES! That's the stuff! Do it to me baby! Yes, yeeeeeees!

oh my goodness!

:D

:fluffle:

NSG... you will never find a more disturbing hive of horndogs and erotica. :D

wanna bet?

Ah, here it is!

http://i35.tinypic.com/dztob9.jpg

Oh yes, yes! YES! That's the stuff! Do it to me baby! Yes, yeeeeeees!

... excuse me for a minute...:$