NationStates Jolt Archive

subject to combat handled by war mod, I agree with Clan handling the Rebels, and if need be, I can handle Loyalist groups should it be needed.

It is settled then.

Council of Clan = Rebel factions of any nation during civil war (If player is Loyalist).

Galveston Bay = Loyalist faction of any nation during civil war (If player is Rebels).

I thus make this official with my supreme ruling. Let it be done. I believe this will be the best for all concerned.

Question: Was Ireland made a completely free nation, or was it forced to remain a commonwealth nation? If it was forced to stay, how long until Civil War?

Question: Was Ireland made a completely free nation, or was it forced to remain a commonwealth nation? If it was forced to stay, how long until Civil War?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Ireland is an independent republic, but it's also in the Commonwealth. Being a Commonwealth nation doesn't mean giving up sovereignty to Britain. Like with my South Africa, we belong to the Commonwealth, but don't recognize British sovereignty or the British Monarch as our head of state.

I'm pretty sure that in E20 the republic of Ireland was released from the Commonwealth. The English still have Ulster in their kingdom, though.

I'm pretty sure that in E20 the republic of Ireland was released from the Commonwealth. The English still have Ulster in their kingdom, though.

It might have been...I haven't really paid much attention to Irish affairs in E20.

Mods, I need an opinion on this matter

I am thinking to do another key reform the MEU, like this I plan have my President of the MEU to be elect for a six year term, which he could run again for another term. He can be of any of group from Turks, Arabs, Kurds, and Persian. Then I'll have Four Prime Ministers each of them has been elected from the four major racally group. Just allowing each group more say in the Government.

I am thinking base it off the Bosnia and Herzegovina or something like govt of Lebanon to allow all the groups more say in the government.

I'm pretty sure that in E20 the republic of Ireland was released from the Commonwealth. The English still have Ulster in their kingdom, though.

my guess is that they stayed in for trade and defense advantages but went ahead and became a Republic

Mods, I need an opinion on this matter

I am thinking to do another key reform the MEU, like this I plan have my President of the MEU to be elect for a six year term, which he could run again for another term. He can be of any of group from Turks, Arabs, Kurds, and Persian. Then I'll have Four Prime Ministers each of them has been elected from the four major racally group. Just allowing each group more say in the Government.

I am thinking base it off the Bosnia and Herzegovina or something like govt of Lebanon to allow all the groups more say in the government.

worth a try, but powersharing did not work in Cyprus or Lebanon

Mods, I need an opinion on this matter

I am thinking to do another key reform the MEU, like this I plan have my President of the MEU to be elect for a six year term, which he could run again for another term. He can be of any of group from Turks, Arabs, Kurds, and Persian. Then I'll have Four Prime Ministers each of them has been elected from the four major racally group. Just allowing each group more say in the Government.

I am thinking base it off the Bosnia and Herzegovina or something like govt of Lebanon to allow all the groups more say in the government.

Not a bad system. I'd implement it. Though I would admit, it does have the potential for problems (like infighting amongst these ethnic groups, who have a history of not being the nicest neighbors.)

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Ireland is an independent republic, but it's also in the Commonwealth. Being a Commonwealth nation doesn't mean giving up sovereignty to Britain. Like with my South Africa, we belong to the Commonwealth, but don't recognize British sovereignty or the British Monarch as our head of state.

I wasn't implying that they were, but of course when Ireland became a common wealth in RL war erupted as Eamon De Velera fought against Michael Collins, who brokered the deal to end the war for independence. De Velera won, became president, and Ireland became a free and seperate entity from the UK as it is today.

Just find it weird that one of the most active areas in the 20th century is not being rped at all.

In that case, nevermind...powersharing is not the way to go...

I wasn't implying that they were, but of course when Ireland became a common wealth in RL war erupted as Eamon De Velera fought against Michael Collins, who brokered the deal to end the war for independence. De Velera won, became president, and Ireland became a free and seperate entity from the UK as it is today.

Just find it weird that one of the most active areas in the 20th century is not being rped at all.

stronger Great Britian without the bloodletting and fortune in treasure spent during the First World War... the British Empire didn't even get into a war until 1924, and it immediately had the US as an ally, and the 2nd Great War was far less expensive than then either of our historic World Wars...

Thus more peaceful transition, more British prestige, and less room for the extremists to work with.

But indeed, a major divergence

Did Vas Pokhoronim ever make answer for my question of becoming Canada?

Did Vas Pokhoronim ever make answer for my question of becoming Canada?

my opinion is that no one should join in without at least 100 posts to their credit , possibly 250 posts. The exception would be for those directly referred and recommended by someone already in this RP

Heh, 800 years of fighting doesn't get stopped by a more peaceful Britain, and of course terrible things would be going on every day in Ireland, with or without the British, and it would be blamed on the British. RUC has a hand in that, as does the fact that most of the problems, with Scotish and British immigrents/Protestants mixing it up with the Irish, not to mention with Ulster remaining in British control that means the the Catholic Ghetto's would come into being, Free Derry, etc....

Only thing going for the Brits is no Black and Tans, because as you said no 1st great war.

Ok I will come back later when I have done more posts.

Heh, 800 years of fighting doesn't get stopped by a more peaceful Britain, and of course terrible things would be going on every day in Ireland, with or without the British, and it would be blamed on the British. RUC has a hand in that, as does the fact that most of the problems, with Scotish and British immigrents/Protestants mixing it up with the Irish, not to mention with Ulster remaining in British control that means the the Catholic Ghetto's would come into being, Free Derry, etc....

Only thing going for the Brits is no Black and Tans, because as you said no 1st great war.

thats all true, and its concerned me at times. However, without an Irish Player, and with so many things to keep track of, my general feeling is that its been quiet in Ireland (violence wise, probably lots of rhetoric though).

Simply for sanity sake. No violent Irish Revolution helps a lot too.

my opinion is that no one should join in without at least 100 posts to their credit , possibly 250 posts. The exception would be for those directly referred and recommended by someone already in this RP
Wow, when we become such an exclusive bunch? Before I started posting on the Economic Thread, I had all of two posts. My feeling is that we should give newcomers the benefit of the doubt. But since I was a recipient of said benefit, I'm hardly unbiased.

EDIT: Ironically, this is my hundredth post. Funny how these things work out, eh?

Wow, when we become such an exclusive bunch? Before I started posting on the Economic Thread, I had all of two posts. My feeling is that we should give newcomers the benefit of the doubt. But since I was a recipient of said benefit, I'm hardly unbiased.

EDIT: Ironically, this is my hundredth post. Funny how these things work out, eh?

You made relevent and useful comments, and then were invited to join. Important difference.

Heh, 800 years of fighting doesn't get stopped by a more peaceful Britain . . .
OLIVER CROMWELL WAS THE GREATEST ENGLISHMAN WHO EVER WALKED THE EARTH.

OLIVER CROMWELL WAS THE GREATEST ENGLISHMAN WHO EVER WALKED THE EARTH.

AHHH!! BOO!! DOWN WITH ENGLISH REPRESENTATION!!! LONG LIVE KING CHARLES!!!

Parthini']AHHH!! BOO!! DOWN WITH ENGLISH REPRESENTATION!!! LONG LIVE KING CHARLES!!!

DUESTCHLAND UBER ALLES!

Parthini']AHHH!! BOO!! DOWN WITH ENGLISH REPRESENTATION!!! LONG LIVE KING CHARLES!!!
Now that was unexpected.

Sorry 'bout that. I'm an ardent Episcopalian (I know... paradoxical...) so Cromwell=Satan. (Hmm... Paradise Lost anyone?) The Scot in me doesn't help either. Plus, he kinda was a dictator...

DUESTCHLAND UBER ALLES!

That's my line... :(

Parthini']Sorry 'bout that. I'm an ardent Episcopalian (I know... paradoxical...) so Cromwell=Satan. (Hmm... Paradise Lost anyone?) The Scot in me doesn't help either. Plus, he kinda was a dictator...
See, I was going for making all the Irishmen go into apoplexy.

Ardent Epicopalian? That's giving me a headache . . .

Parthini']That's my line... :(

I can see the headline now...
Union accuses Rumania of plagiarism, invades in a blatant land grab

See, I was going for making all the Irishmen go into apoplexy.

Ardent Epicopalian? That's giving me a headache . . .

In that case, he's pretty cool (I'm mad @ an Irish guy now).

The Episcopalian thing is wierd tho... Me and Robin Williams :p

I can see the headline now...
Union accuses Rumania of plagiarism, invades in a blatant land grab
Well, you do have some nice oil reser - I mean, people in need of freedom!

Well, you do have some nice oil reser - I mean, people in need of freedom!


You can't have my oil! NOOOOO! *sets fire to oil wells*

And yes, the Republic of Ireland is a member of the Commonwealth.

You can't have my oil! NOOOOO! *sets fire to oil wells*
Now, where is that spider-hole?

You know the Irish like killed Cromwell's army no? He had to go back to England for political reasons, then his son came and finished the job when we were all drunk from the victory parties...another piece of trivia, the word bomb is Irish, and comes from when Cromwell used mortars.

YUGOSLAVIA SUPPORTS INLA ATTACKS! OHNOES! Just have need something to post until i start my action in 39.....

. . . then his son came and finished the job when we were all drunk from the victory parties . . .
I knew my cunning plan would provoke you into revealing that you're not a real Slav.

I knew my cunning plan would provoke you into revealing that you're not a real Slav.

I'm a Pole, and the Poles are the bestest Slav's there are :D

Slovenes rule, Poles drool.

err...err...TITO IS GOD! *tries to keep it up to continue being in VP's good graces* We will make the world fear the SLAV AGAIN! WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA

EDIT FOR THE POLE:
Poles are the most hated nation on the face of the earth, so don't expect any good graces :P INVADE INDIA ASAFP!

err...err...TITO IS GOD! *tries to keep it up to continue being in VP's good graces* We will make the world fear the SLAV AGAIN! WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA

EDIT FOR THE POLE:
Poles are the most hated nation on the face of the earth, so don't expect any good graces :P INVADE INDIA ASAFP!


Hey, we may be the most hated, but we've managed to avoid extinction for a thousand years. And, in the end, we always end up taking down t3h man. We took down the Teutonic Knights, we took down the Prussians, we took down the Nazi's (Polish troops were key in taking Berlin), and then we were key in taking down the Soviet Union. That means we equal t3h uber.

Hey, we may be the most hated, but we've managed to avoid extinction for a thousand years. And, in the end, we always end up taking down t3h man. We took down the Teutonic Knights, we took down the Prussians, we took down the Nazi's (Polish troops were key in taking Berlin), and then we were key in taking down the Soviet Union. That means we equal t3h uber.
Bah, you and your bloody Polish Nationalism...besides you Poles been bitch slap more times and got Own by almost everyone...heck even the Ottomans bitch slap the Polish Army a few times...and we were in a state of decline so bah. Damn nationalist poles..alway taking all the glory for everything... so bah

Bah, you and your bloody Polish Nationalism...besides you Poles been bitch slap more times and got Own by almost everyone...heck even the Ottomans bitch slap the Polish Army a few times...and we were in a state of decline so bah. Damn nationalist poles..alway taking all the glory for everything... so bah
You know, it's one thing when we Slavs rag on each other (not that Irish "Macedonia" would know anything about that), but quite another when the Turks get involved.

You know, it's one thing when we Slavs rag on each other (not that Irish "Macedonia" would know anything about that), but quite another when the Turks get involved.
Bah, I am just Turki part Arab and part English...long story...but bah..I should have known old feelings about Turks along the Slavs wouldn't die away...bah..

I would like to wish a Merry X-mas to each and every one of you. Happy Holidays. :)

I would like to wish a Merry X-mas to each and every one of you. Happy Holidays. :)

Christmas is the Opiate of the masses! Down with the Kapitalizts!

Parthini']Christmas is the Opiate of the masses! Down with the Kapitalizts!

(Smacks Parthini) Shush, quiet you kill-joy.

Sorry Ive been away for a while. Ive had some RL commitments that have recently ended for a while. Anyone care to sum up whats happened lately?

MERRY JESUSMAS, errr I mean Xmas, I mean Christmas.


FUCK BEING PC, LETS ALL JUST ENJOY WHATEVER HOLIDAY WE GOT!!!

I've always thought Christmas was way overblown. Even in the religious aspect.

*waits to be burned at the stake*

I think we should have Penticost presents instead...

The secular part, however, I'm completely cool with :D Got my bagpipes finally :)

Again, I'll be gone from Dec. 25 - Jan. 1

Just a heads up everyone, and Ottoman Khaif will be covering for me if anything comes up. Not that anything should.
To remind everyone, that Kordo is gone for this amount of time and I am dude who is housing sitting for Japan, so for any problems that may pop up for Japan, send them to me for that time period.

Also I have question how many Zoinist Settler move in the Holy Land under MEU rule, because we have Zoinist state already in place, I belive the numbers in the holy land should be low, but I am not sure.

Also I have question how many Zoinist Settler move in the Holy Land under MEU rule, because we have Zoinist state already in place, I belive the numbers in the holy land should be low, but I am not sure.
My preliminary research would tend to indicate that most of the E20 Jews migrating to Palestine would be "Religious Zionists," whose basic idea was to bring about the coming of the messiah through faith and devotion, rather than through political or military action (or action in general, as this atheist would say). Kooky, but probably not particularly troublesome, by Middle Eastern standards.

National movements in colonial empires.

Ok, I am just wondering a lot of colonials holdings for the Brits, Italians, Dutch and etc have been to quite in my opinion, mean like British East Africa has a history of rebellions and etc. And for the Italians, Libya was always rebelling and etc...and in the Dutch East Indies, there is anti Dutch movement in the area and don't forget Malaysia...for the Brits..that area is going to be a pain soon. And before anyone ask why I haven't had much in terms of rebelling...well..I will have one like in year or so..So yeah I am asking if the anti colonials movements are even active in this rp world. Because its been too quiet in that aspect of the game.

I plan to have the Indonesians starting to get restless pretty soon. The Malayan Emergency was Communist Chinese funded and supported, and had the actual support of only the ethnic Chinese population, so its not likely to arise soon, but possibly will eventually.

The Libyans and Tunisians are going to get pushy soon, as their neighbors the Egyptians and Algerians have theirs.

The Mau Mau Rebellion in Kenya occured because of the perception of British weakness, but at this point, their colonials would not have that impression. It was unsuccessful but the British did decide Africa was more trouble than it was worth and pulled out eventually anyway.. but the leaders of that movement had mostly been killed off long before then.

Speaking of which, notice the US is spending on Level 2 services on its Colonial Population (the Philippines), and I am counting the other colonials it has (the Micronesians, Polynesians and Melanasians plus the Puerto Ricans) as part of the US general population because it is only a couple of million total.

However, I have not seen any one else spending money on their colonial populations.... this will be considered when the time comes for Rebellions to occur.

Eventually it might actually be cheaper to cut them lose then keep them if rebellions start up. Which is what happened historically.

Can I join now I have close to one hundred posts?

Can I join now I have close to one hundred posts?

Vas and Sharina have the say on that

his post history

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=449294

National movements in colonial empires.

Ok, I am just wondering a lot of colonials holdings for the Brits, Italians, Dutch and etc have been to quite in my opinion, mean like British East Africa has a history of rebellions and etc. And for the Italians, Libya was always rebelling and etc...and in the Dutch East Indies, there is anti Dutch movement in the area and don't forget Malaysia...for the Brits..that area is going to be a pain soon. And before anyone ask why I haven't had much in terms of rebelling...well..I will have one like in year or so..So yeah I am asking if the anti colonials movements are even active in this rp world. Because its been too quiet in that aspect of the game.


according to Vas, I'm going to be in charge of Rp'ing resistance movements, to take some pressure off of him and GB.

unless he's changed his mind.

I plan to have the Indonesians starting to get restless pretty soon. The Malayan Emergency was Communist Chinese funded and supported, and had the actual support of only the ethnic Chinese population, so its not likely to arise soon, but possibly will eventually.

The Libyans and Tunisians are going to get pushy soon, as their neighbors the Egyptians and Algerians have theirs.

The Mau Mau Rebellion in Kenya occured because of the perception of British weakness, but at this point, their colonials would not have that impression. It was unsuccessful but the British did decide Africa was more trouble than it was worth and pulled out eventually anyway.. but the leaders of that movement had mostly been killed off long before then.

Speaking of which, notice the US is spending on Level 2 services on its Colonial Population (the Philippines), and I am counting the other colonials it has (the Micronesians, Polynesians and Melanasians plus the Puerto Ricans) as part of the US general population because it is only a couple of million total.

However, I have not seen any one else spending money on their colonial populations.... this will be considered when the time comes for Rebellions to occur.

Eventually it might actually be cheaper to cut them lose then keep them if rebellions start up. Which is what happened historically.

What about Ceylon, hmmmmmmmmmmm? Will it rebel, so that I can absorb it into India?

Vas can I join now? I have over one hundred posts. You have already seen the threads I post in. I have been wanting to play for a long time. This thread seems to have last the longest out of all of the other threads. I know you need the approval of Sharina and GB, but can you tell them too.

I'll make a decision after I've had a chance to review your posts. It will take at least a few days, as there's a lot going on right now.

Vas can I join now? I have over one hundred posts. You have already seen the threads I post in. I have been wanting to play for a long time. This thread seems to have last the longest out of all of the other threads. I know you need the approval of Sharina and GB, but can you tell them too.
After thoroughly reviewing your posts, I have come to the conclusion that you are yet another puppet of Goreing/Comstan. Your application is denied. Good luck elsewhere.

Ok it's fine I don't care if you think I'm Comstan or Goreing. I hope the best for your thread.

After thoroughly reviewing your posts, I have come to the conclusion that you are yet another puppet of Goreing/Comstan. Your application is denied. Good luck elsewhere.

Rofl.

"A few days", eh?

Wow, that's quite sad. Trying so hard to get into an RP where he's been discovered twice before and we know him to be a godmodder...

Rofl.

"A few days", eh?
It was a lot more obvious than I expected it to be.

He's determined, I'll give him that. And I bet that he'll get in eventually. He may have to learn about compound sentences and create a dozen alts to do it, but he'll get in.

And when he does, he'll probably mess it up and get kicked out again.

Just a heads up.

I'm ready to start that conference- my Prime Minister is already there and ready to start talks. He's waiting for Zhou to arrive at the conference room so that it may begin.

He's determined, I'll give him that. And I bet that he'll get in eventually. He may have to learn about compound sentences and create a dozen alts to do it, but he'll get in.

And when he does, he'll probably mess it up and get kicked out again.
Indeed. Humans have a peculiar talent for utterly misapplying their intelligence and creativity. We're clever enough to penetrate the mysteries of the very foundations of reality itself, and stupid enough to use that knowledge to make giant bombs.

If Comstan would just learn how to RP well, there wouldn't be a problem, would there? Instead he tries ever more creative ways to get in by using trickery.

Ah, humanity.

When I seize power I'm replacing all of you with giant killer robots.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10167160&postcount=263 and the MEU civil war has started...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10167160&postcount=263 and the MEU civil war has started...

this will get ugly... the US is not going to sit still for a Soviet takeover of the Middle Eastern oil fields, even though they aren't as critical now as they will be later.

By the way, that Algerian water drilling project will strike oil..... next year (1939)

I will be away starting tomorrow afternoon (the 28th) until the second. Any questions for or proposals to South Africa should be addressed to Galveston Bay during that time, as he will be handling SA as an NPC until I return.

As for the MEU civil war, South Africa will remain neutral for now, pending any action by either the Commonwealth or the LTA.

As for the MEU civil war, South Africa will remain neutral for now, pending any action by either the Commonwealth or the LTA.

The Indian government shall do the same.

By the way, that Algerian water drilling project will strike oil..... next year (1939)

Oh Really??

*snicker*

Edit:
Isn't next year is 1938?

Oh Really??

*snicker*

Edit:
Isn't next year is 1938?

Actually, it is.

Actually, it is.

it was 1937 last week, this week its 1938, and next week its 1939 as far as I know

it was 1937 last week, this week its 1938, and next week its 1939 as far as I know

I was under the impression that this was '37. I put my '37 build up this sunday.

it was 1937 last week, this week its 1938, and next week its 1939 as far as I know
It was 1936 last week. This week is 1937. Try to keep up.

The front page is always definitive, even in error (which it has never been, to my knowledge).

It was 1936 last week. This week is 1937. Try to keep up.

The front page is always definitive, even in error (which it has never been, to my knowledge).

so it is.. it was too early when I responded this morning

World's Fair in Paris: Started in April and will run to October of 1937...
Olympic Games of 1940: Winter Scheduled for Sapporo, Japan. Summer for Tokyo, Japan. (Both sites could change: St. Moritz and London may be replacements)
New York's World Fair: Starts in 1939...

The Emir of Algeria has issued a statement of condemnation against the extremists in Iran and has called for solidarity of the independant Western Islamic states (ie: Morroco & Algeria) with the brothers from the east. (the MEU government)

Just a thought; what if we had a "stock-exchange" thread, like here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456327)?

Just a thought; what if we had a "stock-exchange" thread, like here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456327)?

Why?

Why?

For kicks? To make extra money for our countries?

For kicks? To make extra money for our countries?
Our point system is as complex as is..no more adding crap..so no...no stock market...lets just think that stuff is already factor in our year points.

Technicality: For the sake of realism, and the sake of Persians all around, I must request that the name "Iran" not be used and "Persia" be used instead. (Being Persia for a while really got to me) Iran is a name that the Shah made in '37 because the Nazi ambassador told him it would be "more Aryan". Iran=Aryan. Since there are no Nazis and, actually the Shah got killed a long time ago, Iran wouldn't make sense. Just me being picky.

Don't look at me, I have been using Persia except for direct historical references.

I will be unavailable from about 11 AM Saturday until Monday morning due to holiday travel.

Just by the by, is using the Swastika illegal in E20. I know it's illegal to use it as a flag for your actual NS nation, but I'm not sure of it's status on E20. I was just thinking that in the event of a take over by radical facists (not in the near future, as this regime first has to plant the seeds for future dictatorships, and the reality mods will go beserk if I have a putsch), y'know, they might try to throw in some religious symbols to ferment their support (the Swastika is an important religious symbol in Buddhism and Hinduism, both founded in India). If anyone takes offense, though, I'll find some other symbols.

And here's a tidbit:

I was playing Hearts of Iron II, right? And I did a little modding, right? So what I do is make the Union as it is in this, right? Turns out, if E20 were like Hearts of Iron II, the Union could easily conquer Europe. Of course, in the scenario I had, the Union was allied with Italy, but the Union did most of the fighting. After I conquered France and the low countries, I set my sights south, into the Balkans. In the name of fun ness, I remade the Austo-Hungarian Empire, and I still won (but I settled with peace and won a strong ally, with a large industrial base but not much of an army), and then went on to overrun Afghanistan, Persia, the Middle East (including Egypt), India, and Northern Indochina.

Sure, the situation was different, but when you look at it, but not drastically. I seriously doubt that the Union could become the all-conquering super-power I made it in HoI II, but it certainly could do some real damage.

Y'know, just a tidbit because I'm bored...

The Union could conquer Europe, assuming that the USA doesn't step in. Using the point system, the Union gets 500+ points a year, or easily enough to conquer Europe. Great Britain might be able to hold out for a time, but the Brits would be overwhelmed in a couple years.

Remember that the Union isn't just big on a map, they're also very strong economically.

The Union could conquer Europe, assuming that the USA doesn't step in. Using the point system, the Union gets 500+ points a year, or easily enough to conquer Europe. Great Britain might be able to hold out for a time, but the Brits would be overwhelmed in a couple years.

Remember that the Union isn't just big on a map, they're also very strong economically.

Ironically, that's pretty much the same amount of points that they get in HoI II (it has industrial points, and when you build a factory, you get another industrial point. Kinda like our system). It didn't get to conquer GB though (the navy of the Soviet Union was lacking, to say the least).

The Union could conquer Europe, assuming that the USA doesn't step in. Using the point system, the Union gets 500+ points a year, or easily enough to conquer Europe. Great Britain might be able to hold out for a time, but the Brits would be overwhelmed in a couple years.

Remember that the Union isn't just big on a map, they're also very strong economically.

The Union has reached or about to reach its maximum points / industry possible, while China and India still have a lot more growing to do. As it stands, China at maximum economy will have 1000+ points, while India will have 700+ points. We will be the true superpowers should we manage to pull it off. ;)

The Union has reached or about to reach its maximum points / industry possible, while China and India still have a lot more growing to do. As it stands, China at maximum economy will have 1000+ points, while India will have 700+ points. We will be the true superpowers should we manage to pull it off. ;)

Damn, man, it will take me (and most likely you, too) a fricken long time to get that. Not to mention, by the time we both have those two respective numbers (1000 and 700), we'll both have about a billion people. And then we'll have up to 2000 points apeice. And then by the time we get that far, I'll have surpassed you population-wise (India is expected to surpass China in RL by 2030, and if it had Pakistan and Bangladesh factored in, it already would outnumber the Chinese).

You'll never reach the maximum. By the time you get to 1000/700 points, you'll probably be tech level 7 and have to get to 4000 points apeice. Not going to happen in 60 years.

You'll never reach the maximum. By the time you get to 1000/700 points, you'll probably be tech level 7 and have to get to 4000 points apeice. Not going to happen in 60 years.

I agree.

I'm back from vacation and will post this years builds soon.

Damn, man, it will take me (and most likely you, too) a fricken long time to get that. Not to mention, by the time we both have those two respective numbers (1000 and 700), we'll both have about a billion people. And then we'll have up to 2000 points apeice. And then by the time we get that far, I'll have surpassed you population-wise (India is expected to surpass China in RL by 2030, and if it had Pakistan and Bangladesh factored in, it already would outnumber the Chinese).

GB said with early industrialization in our timeline, population growth in China and India will be drastically reduced. There will not be a need for massive population growth because families would only have one to three kids for economic reasons in an industrialized society instead of having 5 - 10 kids like in the poor unindustrialized countries.

So I doubt we'll hit a billion until maybe 2020 or later.

GB said with early industrialization in our timeline, population growth in China and India will be drastically reduced. There will not be a need for massive population growth because families would only have one to three kids for economic reasons in an industrialized society instead of having 5 - 10 kids like in the poor unindustrialized countries.

So I doubt we'll hit a billion until maybe 2020 or later.

We're still going to be fricken huge. Like, the two largest nations (population wise) in the world huge.

you already are Lightning Star... only the Union is close to you guys in population, and the US is a distant 4th.

you already are Lightning Star... only the Union is close to you guys in population, and the US is a distant 4th.

I know.

posted economic rules in economic thread .. need comments from Vas, Snu and Sharina

With Spain's entry into the LTA (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10210801&postcount=76), the Union formally withdraws from the League of Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10211852&postcount=348).

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10211918#post10211918


MEU Revolution

Still working on updating the economic stuff, but consider Washington unimpressed by the Union action, especially as it singles out the US and none of the other LTA nations.

ooc
however, cutting your diplomatic staff immediately hurts your intelligence gathering... this will be apparent quickly.

GB will i be able to get support from the Sultan's of Oman and Yemen? ( I know they are british protectorates but i think i should be able to get some support whether monetary or in arms. Or even to use their country to smuggle in weapons.

ooc
however, cutting your diplomatic staff immediately hurts your intelligence gathering... this will be apparent quickly.
Well, hopefully it will just be a temporary upwelling of "Death to AmeriKKKa!" feeling. If we don't go to war within a few months, most of those measures will be reversed.

But the League needed to die.

Well, hopefully it will just be a temporary upwelling of "Death to AmeriKKKa!" feeling. If we don't go to war within a few months, most of those measures will be reversed.

But the League needed to die.


thats what i said from the beginning :-p

. . .
Did somebody say something?

GB will i be able to get support from the Sultan's of Oman and Yemen? ( I know they are british protectorates but i think i should be able to get some support whether monetary or in arms. Or even to use their country to smuggle in weapons.

not officially, however, smuggling is a way of life in that part of the world, and the British and their friendly local troops cannot police the border effectively.

Dude, if France joins the Pact...

I'd hate to live in Burgundy.

Dude, if France joins the Pact...

I'd hate to live in Burgundy.
Burgundy's going to be under a lot of pressure to drop out of the LTA and join the Pact. If they don't cave, of course . . .

I would belive that clan would be a good choice for a war mod for small scale wars and etc. His work so far in MEU civil war,shows that he knowns what he is doing on these matters.

Burgundy's going to be under a lot of pressure to drop out of the LTA and join the Pact. If they don't cave, of course . . .

Vice President Truman will visit both Belgium and Burgundy and promise to defend them. The US will also talk to Burgundy about some of Porches designs, and open up the US market to his Volkswagon.

OOC: The Allies said the same thing about Czechoslovakia, and could have ended the war in 1939 if they had of gone to war over the czechs. Also, i hope you aren't trying to get the Maus from us...that will be our SUPER TANK! j/k, you can have it.

Vice President Truman will visit both Belgium and Burgundy and promise to defend them. The US will also talk to Burgundy about some of Porches designs, and open up the US market to his Volkswagon.
This will make Truman quite the joke in many Union editorial pages and political cartoons.

QUICK QUICK!!! Invade now so we can capture the Veep!

You see the kind of domestic political pressures we're subject to . . .

I am trying to finish up the economic rules and damned NationsStates is being flaky....

You see the kind of domestic political pressures we're subject to . . .

At least you don't have to subdue a Communist revolution.

Just by the by, is using the Swastika illegal in E20. I know it's illegal to use it as a flag for your actual NS nation, but I'm not sure of it's status on E20. I was just thinking that in the event of a take over by radical facists (not in the near future, as this regime first has to plant the seeds for future dictatorships, and the reality mods will go beserk if I have a putsch), y'know, they might try to throw in some religious symbols to ferment their support (the Swastika is an important religious symbol in Buddhism and Hinduism, both founded in India). If anyone takes offense, though, I'll find some other symbols.

The symbol itself is not much of a worry, unless it is in someway perverted and/or descrated (sic) in meaning or purpose... (Obviously, it will eventually come down to the Moderators' counsel... who must be wise in this matter as well as anyone else involved...) Clearly, others may definitely see things a lot differently on experience...

Well, there's unrest in China and India, revolution in the MEU, and Warsaw and Washington seem poised to go for one another's throats. Interesting times. Anyone care to place bets?

Well, there's unrest in China and India, revolution in the MEU, and Warsaw and Washington seem poised to go for one another's throats. Interesting times. Anyone care to place bets?
I am become death, shatterer of worlds . . .

Colombia for the win!

I am become death, shatterer of worlds . . .

read Operation Dropshot....
http://pages.prodigy.net/aesir/ww3.htm

I have, several times......now where is that German scientist in the wheelchair?

::cracks knuckles::

with another massive conflict coming...........who's nation can i tear apart from the inside?

read Operation Dropshot....
http://pages.prodigy.net/aesir/ww3.htm

I have, several times......now where is that German scientist in the wheelchair?
I'm glad somebody got it.

"Mein Führer!!! I can VAWK!!!!"

And another thing; in the First post, it says that in 2000 the strongest country will win. I just have to say; there are multiple ways of showing who "won", and 2, why even bother with "winning"?

And another thing; in the First post, it says that in 2000 the strongest country will win. I just have to say; there are multiple ways of showing who "won", and 2, why even bother with "winning"?
I always interpreted that figuratively (I didn't write it - the original Hrstrovokia did). I can delete it if it's confusing or annoying.

I always interpreted that figuratively (I didn't write it - the original Hrstrovokia did). I can delete it if it's confusing or annoying.

I just wondering if someone was actually going to win, that's all. I think it would ruin the fun, to be frank...

I think we'll all have won, if we manage not to, say, fuck up the Earth as much as in Real Life. Or worse.

Just a thought, but do we have a unavoidable natural disasters schedule?
Or is it up to the player to research when these will occur?

I think we'll all have won, if we manage not to, say, fuck up the Earth as much as in Real Life. Or worse.

Can you say nukular war?

:p

Just a thought, but do we have a unavoidable natural disasters schedule?
Or is it up to the player to research when these will occur?

A 200 mile wide comet slamming into Earth by 2050.

Game ends. ;)

don't worry, the US will teach China and India how to make Soylent Green by then

Just a thought, but do we have a unavoidable natural disasters schedule?
Or is it up to the player to research when these will occur?


I had linked much earlier the 100 worst natural disasters.


I was japan then and i got hit with a nasty quake in 1923

I had linked much earlier the 100 worst natural disasters.


I was japan then and i got hit with a nasty quake in 1923
If you still have the link, TG it to me and I'll work it into the First Post. I couldn't save it at the time (I was catsitting and using somebody else's computer), and I haven't been able to find it in my web searches since then.

If you still have the link, TG it to me and I'll work it into the First Post. I couldn't save it at the time (I was catsitting and using somebody else's computer), and I haven't been able to find it in my web searches since then.


god i don't have it saved, its somewhere buried in this thread. I'll go looking for it.

i'll post it once here for good measure

http://www.disastercenter.com/disaster/TOP100K.html

BTW china your having a flood in 38 and another in 39 that will both kill about 500,000. You had a typhoon last year in hong kong that killed 11,000


and India, your getting a major storm in 1942 that will kill 60,000+ people in Bangledash

World's Fair is planned for Rome in 1942...
Planned Olympic Games in Sapporo (Japan) and Tokyo (Japan) for 1940 and Cortina d' Ampezzo (Italy) and London for 1944...

I was wondering how some people could say for certain that things would end in a disasterous fashion without knowing the signs of ruin before hand, having some talent in predicting on a large scale and/or a certain kind of faith involved in those events...

World's Fair is planned for Rome in 1942...
Planned Olympic Games in Sapporo (Japan) and Tokyo (Japan) for 1940 and Cortina d' Ampezzo (Italy) and London for 1944...

I was wondering how some people could say for certain that things would end in a disasterous fashion without knowing the signs of ruin before hand, having some talent in predicting on a large scale and/or a certain kind of faith involved in those events...


History said so....



these events are beyond our control.

Well, that's not entirely true.

Flood casualties in China, for instance, would be reduced, since flood control measures were one of Emperor Guozu's real accomplishments. Droughts and famines in the Soviet Union are lessened, because the democratic government in Russia has established more effective means of dealing with such problems.

The Pandemic, on the other hand, was a good deal worse in E20 than in RL.

on the plus side, the first two great wars produced far fewer casualties

on the plus side, the first two great wars produced far fewer casualties

Yay!

Unfortunatly, one of them took place in India :(. Well, one of the large fronts was in India. I mean, there was an Indian front in WWII, but 'twas small. And there wasn't much fighting.

BTW china your having a flood in 38 and another in 39 that will both kill about 500,000. You had a typhoon last year in hong kong that killed 11,000


and India, your getting a major storm in 1942 that will kill 60,000+ people in Bangledash

Pfft, the Bengalis can take anything. Back in...'91 I think, there was a typhoon that killed more than 200,000 people. Within a year, the population had recovered (in fact, it had surpassed those lost). I fear not.

And it's not like there's anything in East Bengal.

Yep, that belongs in chatzy.
http://www.chatzy.com/684093003041

BTW china your having a flood in 38 and another in 39 that will both kill about 500,000. You had a typhoon last year in hong kong that killed 11,000


and India, your getting a major storm in 1942 that will kill 60,000+ people in Bangledash
Flood deaths won't be as bad - remember flood control measures were on of Guozu's principal projects. Theoretically, it would have to be researched to determine how good those measures would be, of course, but but it might not be that much worse than, say, Katrina.

The storm will be worse than Katrina, though. But it's not like the Indians can't spare a few peasants . . .

Flood deaths won't be as bad - remember flood control measures were on of Guozu's principal projects. Theoretically, it would have to be researched to determine how good those measures would be, of course, but but it might not be that much worse than, say, Katrina.

The storm will be worse than Katrina, though. But it's not like the Indians can't spare a few peasants . . .

you are cold hearted son of a bitch, did anyone ever tell you that?

Can't find the chatzy link so i'll post it here.

Sharina, I'm one of the best friends in E20 that you have, but goddamnit man, you picked an exceedlingly HARD nation to RP, all you do is fucking bitch, now suck it up and act like a man and make the best of the situation that you can, or just fucking quit china, or E20 altogether

It *is* frustrating when you lose either way-

1. Cut back on social spending so that I can maintain a military and expand my economy. I'm protected from other nations invasions, but I risk collapse of my nation through rebellions and revolts.

OR

2. Cut back on military so that I can maintain social services. I won't have rebellions or revolts (at least reduce them a lot) but in exchange, I'm wide open for invasion or destruction in war as I won't have a military.

----------------------------

I won't complain anymore once I get enough points to sustain Level III social spending (160 points) to reduce revolts even more, and undercut the footholds the Commies are making in China (the whole Mutual Aid Societies thing), in addition to military maintainence and 10 - 20 points to spend on expansion, new units, upgrade stuff, or megaprojects. For that, I need 200 points a year worth of income.

Anyways, I really doubt I'd do any better if I were playing any other E20 nation other than the USA. If I were playing Canada, Afghanistan, Egypt, Italy, Ireland, or whatever, I'd still have the same problem.

But I'll just bear with it and have the last hurrah later on, I guess.

you are cold hearted son of a bitch, did anyone ever tell you that?
Why, yes. You did. Just now.

Or weren't you paying attention, either?

apparently a war is about to break out.. good thing I was getting everything ready

incidently, time will freeze while preparations are made assuming this war happens

War? What war, between who?

War? What war, between who?

Sweden and the Netherlands :p

Really, though, I think it's going to be LTA versus the Pact.. Which might be bad for me, since I really could do without a war. I've also just started to make good relations with the Union. I really don't want to fight with them.

Ahh, well then the USEA is going to stay out of it and then sell our products to your shattered corpses.

Yes, shattered corpses love spicy noodles, too.

Yes, shattered corpses love spicy noodles, too.

Indeed.

By the by, I seem to have forgotten where Chatzy is.

http://www.chatzy.com/684093003041

Tada!!

http://www.chatzy.com/684093003041

Tada!!

My hero!

apparently a war is about to break out.. good thing I was getting everything ready

incidently, time will freeze while preparations are made assuming this war happens

I need to know when this time freeze will happen. Will it happen right now in 1938, or will it happen once we turn the year into 1939 tomorrow night? Or will the freeze happen the instant war is declared?

Sweden and the Netherlands :p

Really, though, I think it's going to be LTA versus the Pact.. Which might be bad for me, since I really could do without a war. I've also just started to make good relations with the Union. I really don't want to fight with them.

Well... you could always drop out of the clutches of the Kapitalizt Swine-pigs and either be neutral or embrace the rule of the Proletariat...

Or die.

Parth - to the War Room!

This guy wants in the war room :(

Parthini']Well... you could always drop out of the clutches of the Kapitalizt Swine-pigs and either be neutral or embrace the rule of the Proletariat...

Or die.

I can't leave the LTA. They've kept me afloat.

If only there were some way to be neutral. Or if there were a third alliance..

I can't leave the LTA. They've kept me afloat.

If only there were some way to be neutral. Or if there were a third alliance..
There was a third alliance, briefly, between France, Spain, and Argentina. That kind of fell apart.

There might be one soon between Egypt, Ethiopia, and Italy, though. None of those have the economic muscle to help India much, though.

There was a third alliance, briefly, between France, Spain, and Argentina. That kind of fell apart.

There might be one soon between Egypt, Ethiopia, and Italy, though. None of those have the economic muscle to help India much, though.


Can't forget Japan was in it too. Then i got pissed at something and left, and it all fell apart.

There was a third alliance, briefly, between France, Spain, and Argentina. That kind of fell apart.

There might be one soon between Egypt, Ethiopia, and Italy, though. None of those have the economic muscle to help India much, though.

If only there were some pan-asian alliance. Maybe with me, the USEA, China, Korea, Japan, and the MEU.

Then again, the MEU won't join any alliances, and Japan would die before it allied with China. As would Korea too, probably.

It sucks to be me. I'm surrounded by pro-pact nations, yet I'm a member of the LTA. I'd join the Pact, if it weren't for two things. One, I'm controlled by Facists. Two, Great Britain has helped India more than any other nation. They're probably my greatest ally.

Can't forget Japan was in it too. Then i got pissed at something and left, and it all fell apart.
You're right. My bad.

If only there were some pan-asian alliance. Maybe with me, the USEA, China, Korea, Japan, and the MEU.

Then again, the MEU won't join any alliances, and Japan would die before it allied with China. As would Korea too, probably.

It sucks to be me. I'm surrounded by pro-pact nations, yet I'm a member of the LTA. I'd join the Pact, if it weren't for two things. One, I'm controlled by Facists. Two, Great Britain has helped India more than any other nation. They're probably my greatest ally.

There is already the Seoul Conference Treaty set up between me and Korea, you can join if you want, we would probably accept you.

There is already the Seoul Conference Treaty set up between me and Korea, you can join if you want, we would probably accept you.

Unfortunatly, it looks like I would be the strongest member of said alliance. And I'm not strong at all. We'd need the backing of some strong (economically, preferrably) nation, preferrably tech level 6.5 (or 7). The only nation that meets both of those requirements in Asia is Japan...

Do not forget that the Commonwealth of Nations also functions as a mutual defence treaty for its members. However as all of said members are in the more powerful LTA it seems to be slightly superfluous at this present time.

Do not forget that the Commonwealth of Nations also functions as a mutual defence treaty for its members. However as all of said members are in the more powerful LTA it seems to be slightly superfluous at this present time.

I don't forget. I'm just alone surrounded by hostile neighbors. It's kinda like Im West Germany... If war broke out between the Soviets and the Americans, then you can bet alot that it would have fallen in like, 2 minutes.

I don't forget. I'm just alone surrounded by hostile neighbors. It's kinda like Im West Germany... If war broke out between the Soviets and the Americans, then you can bet alot that it would have fallen in like, 2 minutes.

Don't forget you have a potential ally in China. After all, China is in the same boat as India. ;)

Don't forget you have a potential ally in China. After all, China is in the same boat as India. ;)

China is my only potential ally in Asia (besides the MEU, which doesn't seem to want to go beyond a "Don't invade us, we don't invade you" relationship), and unfortunatly, they can't give me alot of aid.

China is my only potential ally in Asia (besides the MEU, which doesn't seem to want to go beyond a "Don't invade us, we don't invade you" relationship), and unfortunatly, they can't give me alot of aid.
There's still Japan. Which could.

There's still Japan. Which could.

I don't think Japan would join in an alliance with China and Korea.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10224723&postcount=39

Insted of Guernica, Picasso will probably paint this in our timeline.

I don't think Japan would join in an alliance with China and Korea.

I would join in an alliance with China. But Japan makes the Emperor and to a lesser extent, Syngman Rhee, nervous. The USEA signed a treaty with us, the Seoul Conference Treaty. India could join, we might need you guys, what with your sheer manpower and industrial potential.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10224723&postcount=39

Insted of Guernica, Picasso will probably paint this in our timeline.
Yeah, you're probably right.

At least until we do the same to Guernica.

For all those interested, there have been (mostly) free and fair elections in India. Just check the thread.

I would join in an alliance with China. But Japan makes the Emperor and to a lesser extent, Syngman Rhee, nervous. The USEA signed a treaty with us, the Seoul Conference Treaty. India could join, we might need you guys, what with your sheer manpower and industrial potential.

China would be happy to ally with Korea. After all, China helped Korea with stuff back during the 1920's.

But I can't see China allying with Japan, after the Japanese invasion and the use of atrocity weapons, the gas attacks on Chinese people.

China would be happy to ally with Korea. After all, China helped Korea with stuff back during the 1920's.

But I can't see China allying with Japan, after the Japanese invasion and the use of atrocity weapons, the gas attacks on Chinese people.

Well, there is the Seoul Conference Treaty we signed with the USEA, it has some simple rules that aren't specific to either nation. We can extand that to you and India, or have you and India sign similar treaties.

Well, there is the Seoul Conference Treaty we signed with the USEA, it has some simple rules that aren't specific to either nation. We can extand that to you and India, or have you and India sign similar treaties.

I dunno where the Seoul Treaty is. If I could have a link to it, I could give it a look over and maybe try to do something IC'ly.

I dunno where the Seoul Treaty is. If I could have a link to it, I could give it a look over and maybe try to do something IC'ly.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428713&page=12

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428713&page=13

These are the relevant pages, the terms are there, spread out among several posts.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428713&page=12

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428713&page=13

These are the relevant pages, the terms are there, spread out among several posts.

Just posted something IC in there. :)

Emir Khalid Ibn Hashim, Emir of Algeria, has issued a statement of condemnation against Soviet actions in Persia and against the MEU's weakness to prevent such an atrocity.

He asks for the ending of sociallist interference in the Internal affairs of a soverign neighboring country.

In Algeria the media and several polliticians question the motive given (For the killing of one pilot do you incinrate 12,000 people? good thing it was a pilot) for the act and even speculate that the act was a "Show of Power" to the neighbors of the Soviet nation and to the rest of the world as surely the millitary commanders tested the effects of their weaponry before using them.

I was bored, so I decided to make a new map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/E20.png) for E20. I based it mostly off of the map we already have, with visiting the colonial posessions page a few times, so I know I screwed up somewhere. If you spot a problem, point it out, and I'll try to fix it. The China part was hard, so give me a little slack there.

What are the British doing with Eritrea? When'd that happen?

What are the British doing with Eritrea? When'd that happen?

It says they have it on the colonial posessions page, and on the map. I don't know HOW it got there, but it's there.

It says they have it on the colonial posessions page, and on the map. I don't know HOW it got there, but it's there.
Yeah, I know that's what it says there. That's why I was asking.

So, to reiterate, what's Britain doing with Eritrea?

Yeah, I know that's what it says there. That's why I was asking.

So, to reiterate, what's Britain doing with Eritrea?

I dunno. I just make the map :D

By the way, what do you think of it?

I wasn't asking you. Loudmouth Poles.

It's a good map, though.

I wasn't asking you. Loudmouth Poles.

It's a good map, though.

Pfft, I'm only half Polish. I'm also part Russian, part French, part Irish...

I've said all this before, haven't I?

Funniest moment ever, lmao, i love how the poles are so hated in our RP. I felt like a renegade.

Anyway, i think Sweden owns Scandanavia.

Funniest moment ever, lmao, i love how the poles are so hated in our RP. I felt like a renegade.

Anyway, i think Sweden owns Scandanavia.

I'm the unloved one in this RP *cries*

Anyhoo, I think they do as well, but I checked the map and the ownage thing und I saw nothing. I'm gonna wait for a mod to tell me.

Yugoslavia is selling it's fleet of IK-3's at the cost of 1 point to any nation, and may give it away for free if it is on good terms with you. The IK-3 is superior to the Hurricane on all accounts, and the ME-109E in everything but speed, making it a capeble fighter. Details can be found here
IK-3 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10011130&postcount=170)

TLS, you've got Nigeria (the part in between Togoland and Kameroon) as a French possession. It's British. Also, the southern half of Madagascar was transfered to South Africa a week or two ago (RL). But other than that, it's a nice map.

And Vas is right. Why are the British in Eritrea and Italian Somaliland? Was there some treaty we missed?

Seoul Conference Treaty Thread is up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463059

By the way, Lightning Star asked awhile back about the swastika in E20, and he never really got answered. The main thing, of course, is that we follow the rules of NS generally.

Personally, and having reviewed the flag policy, I think technically it should be allowed, but with the caveat that it can't look "Nazi." Whatever the hell that means.

Essentially, I think, it's a subjective judgment. My own proposal is that if somebody wants to make a flag for an E20 country that has a swastika on it, they ought to post it here, and if anybody finds it offensive, it should be removed and altered.

I know, it's not necessarily realistic, but let's face it - it's a powerful symbol of evil (yeah, yeah, I know Buddhists use it too - but I'm a Buddhist, and I just incinerated 30,000 people, so piss off), and it shouldn't be surprising that it continue to be treated as such.

Yugoslavia is selling it's fleet of IK-3's at the cost of 1 point to any nation, and may give it away for free if it is on good terms with you. The IK-3 is superior to the Hurricane on all accounts, and the ME-109E in everything but speed, making it a capeble fighter. Details can be found here
IK-3 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10011130&postcount=170)

China would like to make inquiries into how many IK-3's could be sold, as China may want to upgrade its five units of DW 520's to the IK-3's, and possibly purchase several more.

Let me know. :)

VP: Wanna "go to Hamburg?"

China would like to make inquiries into how many IK-3's could be sold, as China may want to upgrade its five units of DW 520's to the IK-3's, and possibly purchase several more.

Let me know. :)

Secret IC:
Japan asks the Union to ask Yugoslavia not to sell the aircraft to China. In fact they ask for Yugoslavia to sell them to anyone but China.

Good map TLS. Italy should own Eritrea and Italian Somaliland, I gave it back to them after Great War 2 (it may have been 1). My thread probably lists it wrong, the lists are getting pretty out of date as it approaches the mid year exam season, I changed it on my map though. Oh and there's a connection between Nigeria and British East Africa. It's via some old French colonies (What is now the Congo, Central African Republic and some other places) see my map for details.

Good map TLS. Italy should own Eritrea and Italian Somaliland, I gave it back to them after Great War 2 (it may have been 1). My thread probably lists it wrong, the lists are getting pretty out of date as it approaches the mid year exam season, I changed it on my map though. Oh and there's a connection between Nigeria and British East Africa. It's via some old French colonies (What is now the Congo, Central African Republic and some other places) see my map for details.

Gotcha.

Must have been an accident. I knew nigeria was British. Also, does Italy control ALL of Somalia or just that part?

Fixed! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/E20.png)

I think the shape of Romania needs to be fixed since they own Besserabia, don't they?

What's that country between Bolivia and Peru?

I think the shape of Romania needs to be fixed since they own Besserabia, don't they?

Gotcha.

And Snu, I was just copying the Map. I have no clue what country that is. Is it Zion?

No, I remember Zion was in Argentina somewhere.

Yep, the Zionists are in Argentina.

Actually, I don't think that's space is a country at all.

Yep, the Zionists are in Argentina.

Actually, I don't think that's space is a country at all.

Ehh, another map screw up, I suppose :)

By the way, Lightning Star asked awhile back about the swastika in E20, and he never really got answered. The main thing, of course, is that we follow the rules of NS generally.

Personally, and having reviewed the flag policy, I think technically it should be allowed, but with the caveat that it can't look "Nazi." Whatever the hell that means.

Essentially, I think, it's a subjective judgment. My own proposal is that if somebody wants to make a flag for an E20 country that has a swastika on it, they ought to post it here, and if anybody finds it offensive, it should be removed and altered.

I know, it's not necessarily realistic, but let's face it - it's a powerful symbol of evil (yeah, yeah, I know Buddhists use it too - but I'm a Buddhist, and I just incinerated 30,000 people, so piss off), and it shouldn't be surprising that it continue to be treated as such.
Bump for input.

Bump for input.

too risky

Veto exercised.

VP, please check your TG's

Vas, check your TGs.

Edit: Whoa.

Vas, check your TGs.

Edit: Whoa.
Sorry, got distracted by the whole incinerating-a-city-for sawing-off-a-guy's-head thing.

I'll get back to you tonight.

VP, please check your TG's
I'll get back to you immediately.

Sorry, got distracted by the whole incinerating-a-city-for sawing-off-a-guy's-head thing.

No worries. I can see how that could get a little distracting.

All major fleet formations are called to port and most army units are put on high alert. Citizens are informed that for their own safety, martial law is in affect until futher notice.

Oh snap, martian law has been declared! KNIGHT OF DEIMOS ATTACK!

Oh snap, martian law has been declared! KNIGHT OF DEIMOS ATTACK!
Wow. That was some funny.

That is my favorite episode of Sealab 2021 :P

That is my favorite episode of Sealab 2021 :P
Ah, man, you just ruined the magic for me.

Let's just be friends.

fine fine, the communist republic of sealab will cease to be.

fine fine, the communist republic of sealab will cease to be.

Damn. I never figured there was anybody else who watched the Sealab 2021 cartoon. I watched it a few times a couple years ago on Adult Swim channel, and I thought it had some of the best parodies, punch lines, idiocy, and "3 Stooges" type of humor. ;)

The characters I liked the best were the woman officer, the white-haired captain, and the black guy. I can't remember their names, unfortunately.

Debbie, Captain Murphy and Doctor Quinn *looks both ways and jumps in the street*

Also, does Italy control ALL of Somalia or just that part?

Just Djibouti and Eritrea, Somalia is British.

Just Djibouti and Eritrea, Somalia is British.

But you said Italian Somaliland! So, I gave them Italian Somaliland. Djibouti was originally French, also. So it couldn't count as Italian Somaliland. And Eritrea is Eritrea, not Somaliland.

Italy acquired Eritrea during the 19th Century, and Djibiouti during the 2nd Great War

Italy acquired Eritrea during the 19th Century, and Djibiouti during the 2nd Great War

I know. But Ribena said they got Italian somaliland too.

TLS, this (http://www.comandosupremo.com/Eth.jpg) is a map of the area during RL WWII. It has Italian, French, and British Somaliland shown. The only difference I know of in E20 is that French Somaliland is now Italian.

TLS, this (http://www.comandosupremo.com/Eth.jpg) is a map of the area during RL WWII. It has Italian, French, and British Somaliland shown. The only difference I know of in E20 is that French Somaliland is now Italian.

Good, because that's what I put on the map when I updated it.

24 hour freeze so that people can actually react to things that happened in March and April, some of the players are in timezones opposite the rest of us.

May 1 will begin on Friday

I will (and I am going to assume it will be needed) start a World War III thread at that time, and the first three posts will be important rules, units costs, and chronology of major events as they occur.

At times the action will move quickly, other times slowly, depending on how complicated things are.

k, loooooooooong break and suddenly were on the third world war?

can someone fill me in on all important foreign affairs of the past.... well since mid December.

k, loooooooooong break and suddenly were on the third world war?

can someone fill me in on all important foreign affairs of the past.... well since mid December.
To sum it all up...I am having a civil war, China is getting attack by Japan, the Union firebomb a Persian city and that cause an international outcry...Union and the Yanks are lock in arms race and....that's about it

k, loooooooooong break and suddenly were on the third world war?

can someone fill me in on all important foreign affairs of the past.... well since mid December.
It won't matter for long for you, assuming you're still playing Burgundy (unless you want to switch sides).

Dude, NS is going wackity-wack. Thank goodness for that time freeze :).

It won't matter for long for you, assuming you're still playing Burgundy (unless you want to switch sides).

you could also switch countries if you wish, or if you get overrun, you can switch countries then.

In addition, I have started a Third World War thread... please don't post in it yet anyone, until I finish filling in everything and the war actually starts.

you could also switch countries if you wish, or if you get overrun, you can switch countries then.

In addition, I have started a Third World War thread... please don't post in it yet anyone, until I finish filling in everything and the war actually starts.

Where is it, pray tell? Just to mark it down.

Where is it, pray tell? Just to mark it down.

here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10243834#post10243834

We have a new Canada, Cylea's friend Arcanea.

The Rumanian Government lends funds to France to provide for the defense of their comrades. (10 points from half-year nat'l effort)

We have a new Canada, Cylea's friend Arcanea.

works for me...

I will definitely need the weekend to get everything ready for this, I am still working on LTA forces, then I have to type up all of the Pact forces

and make sure the rules are ready

figure Monday for May / June please

New Dornalia is out for a couple weeks, and has appointed Ato-Sara as his substitute.

We have a new Canada, Cylea's friend Arcanea.

A new Canada? I was under the impression there never was one... ;)

Anyway, thanks for letting me join and I'll TG you a link to my thread once it's posted (tonight or tomorrow).

A new Canada? I was under the impression there never was one... ;)

Anyway, thanks for letting me join and I'll TG you a link to my thread once it's posted (tonight or tomorrow).
There've been a couple of failed attempts.

There've been a couple of failed attempts.

Indeed. I wonder why? It's not like Playing Canada is a hard job; you have a small population, means with which to make it's life very comfortable, the protection of the U.S., and the potential to make yourself somewhat powerful. It's a dream nation, and the only flaw I'd say it has is that it is too easy.

We have a new Canada, Cylea's friend Arcanea.

As the commander of E20, I welcome you to E20, Arcanea, and I hope you will enjoy your time and RP'ing here, develop community bonds with the rest of us, and generally have a fun time through good and bad with your nation.

Looking forward to a Player-Controlled Canada, and once again, welcome aboard, Arcanea! :)

As the commander of E20, I welcome you to E20, Arcanea, and I hope you will enjoy your time and RP'ing here, develop community bonds with the rest of us, and generally have a fun time through good and bad with your nation.

Looking forward to a Player-Controlled Canada, and once again, welcome aboard, Arcanea! :)

Commander of E20?!?

Arcanea, I forgot to add this...

E20 has its own chat room, known as a "Chatzy Room" here at this URL address.

http://www.chatzy.com/684093003041

Very simple to use, and allows you to chat with E20 players in real time. Fun stuff. :)

Welcome aboard Arcanea, don't forget Canada is a member of both the LTA and Commonwealth of Nations and is protected from any unwelcome foreign intervention (like evil red communists ;) )

Have fun!

Commander of E20?!?
He's listed as Chief Moderator, for whatever it's worth.

He's listed as Chief Moderator, for whatever it's worth.

::coughs::



anyway, i'd like to be the first post in E20 after the most recent forum fuckup being fixed.



Update.

Later today will be a big day for the MEU revolution

3rd Part of the Battle for Karbala
Attack upon the City of Qom
And the Rescue operation for the 2 captured Union Pilots (whether or not its successful, you'll have to wait and see)


oh and Vas, Anyway some MEU terrorists get into the Union to attempt to take vengence in some way on the bombing of shiraz


I was thinking of them taking over a school in............lets say Beslan. What do you think?

Wouldn't they target a more important target?

Somewhere in St. Petersburg(Leningrad?Trotskygrad?) Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, Kiev, Sevastapol or some where else with a high profile?