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Calizorinstan
03-08-2007, 15:09
No, BL is in the UFAN, however he isn't in the NPE though...
Deserted Territories
03-08-2007, 15:10
I doubt Barokin had enough existing airfield to handle all the aircraft I want to send plus what you guys already have there. If you guys could roleplay building an airstrip or two, I'll send in da planes.

I'd be happy to build some airstrips, but I haven't used any of the airports there yet. All my fighters are operating off the carriers and all my incoming transports are tilt-rotors, so they'll be landing in open spaces next to my troop columns.
Calizorinstan
03-08-2007, 15:12
I am going to stay low in the conflict with the NPE if you don't mind guys,,,
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2007, 15:13
So, as it is, there is an ongoing or completed invsion of; Barokin, Kampfers, Crystal Mountains, and Grosse Reich?
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2007, 15:14
EDIT: I or Viston should NOT be on there. Sadly, the maker of this map, Kampfers, can't update...>_<

Like this?

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/431/nomaldoriansot8.png
Emperor Nero
03-08-2007, 15:31
If I move some heavy bombers into Barokin, can anyone give me fighter support for a bombing run on NPE headquarters?
Emperor Nero
03-08-2007, 15:32
So, as it is, there is an ongoing or completed invsion of; Barokin, Kampfers, Crystal Mountains, and Grosse Reich?

Sounds about right. There are some other invasions in the works, but the threads haven't been created yet. I dunno the details though, BC does.

Oh, and Calizoristan is no longer a target either.
Maldorians
03-08-2007, 15:35
Sounds about right. There are some other invasions in the works, but the threads haven't been created yet. I dunno the details though, BC does.

I'm back. Lawl, The Turks are made of win...anyways, anything new happen?
Deserted Territories
03-08-2007, 16:00
If I move some heavy bombers into Barokin, can anyone give me fighter support for a bombing run on NPE headquarters?

I can.
Tartarystan
03-08-2007, 16:29
Hey, could I get some Corporate Alliance help? Mondoth, The Lone Alliance, and a godmoding new player I'll probably fire the ignore cannon on (his first post was a "I DELCARE WAR YUO!!!!" on me), are planning (and in the process) of invading me. Tartarystan isn't very large but clearly, The Lone Alliance probably will be dissuaded from attacking me if they see the Corporate Alliance defending my territory. In addition, Mondoth might also be dissuaded from doing so as well. And if either one isn't...well...it still probably won't be a problem.
Toopoxia
03-08-2007, 16:37
Hey, could I get some Corporate Alliance help? Mondoth, The Lone Alliance, and a godmoding new player I'll probably fire the ignore cannon on (his first post was a "I DELCARE WAR YUO!!!!" on me), are planning (and in the process) of invading me. Tartarystan isn't very large but clearly, The Lone Alliance probably will be dissuaded from attacking me if they see the Corporate Alliance defending my territory. In addition, Mondoth might also be dissuaded from doing so as well. And if either one isn't...well...it still probably won't be a problem.

Well, I'm fresh from my war in Saan Gali and looking for an easy victory, I'll do it, link please.
Toopoxia
03-08-2007, 16:40
Hey, could I get some Corporate Alliance help? Mondoth, The Lone Alliance, and a godmoding new player I'll probably fire the ignore cannon on (his first post was a "I DELCARE WAR YUO!!!!" on me), are planning (and in the process) of invading me. Tartarystan isn't very large but clearly, The Lone Alliance probably will be dissuaded from attacking me if they see the Corporate Alliance defending my territory. In addition, Mondoth might also be dissuaded from doing so as well. And if either one isn't...well...it still probably won't be a problem.

Also, what Tech Level are we looking at? I can do MT but I prefer PMT.
Emperor Nero
03-08-2007, 16:47
I believe this is the thread he is talking about

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534396
The World Soviet Party
03-08-2007, 16:49
For the record, Cazelia shouldnt be able to do that, as he is currently occupied by a number of nations, including me.
Akimonad
03-08-2007, 17:20
I need to butt in on the Kampfers invasion, as I've been warmongering an invasion since a few days ago. He sunk my ship, so I'm getting revenge.

Also, I seem to have the help of one of Mal's fleets, but I don't know the orbat for it.
Kampfers
03-08-2007, 17:34
I need to butt in on the Kampfers invasion, as I've been warmongering an invasion since a few days ago. He sunk my ship, so I'm getting revenge.

Also, I seem to have the help of one of Mal's fleets, but I don't know the orbat for it.

Not right this second you don't. Me and Undershi are discussing closing the thread.
Tartarystan
03-08-2007, 17:34
It's MT and Cazelia isn't trying to invade anymore...it's pretty much The Lone Alliance and Mondoth. The Lone Alliance might back off, but they might not. Anyways, I don't think it would be very hard for the Corporate Alliance.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 17:35
Encrypted Message to Undershi:

You are on your own with Kampfers. I'm going after Lord Sumguy.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome
Akimonad
03-08-2007, 17:43
Not right this second you don't. Me and Undershi are discussing closing the thread.
I still plan on invading you, regardless of which thread it's in.
Kampfers
03-08-2007, 17:46
I still plan on invading you, regardless of which thread it's in.

And I reserve the right to ignore you. Did you not get the message? I don't want to RP with you...
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 17:50
Encrypted Message to Undershi:

You are on your own with Kampfers. I'm going after Lord Sumguy.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome

OOC: well that isn't what I wanted to see when i looked at this thread...
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2007, 17:58
OOC: well that isn't what I wanted to see when i looked at this thread...

That seems like something I will be laughing at, yes... yes I think it is.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 18:23
OOC: well that isn't what I wanted to see when i looked at this thread...

Yeah, especially since my defense budget is bigger than yours. :p

It begins. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534583)
Undershi
03-08-2007, 18:27
Well, time to fight then. My invasion of Kampfers is well underway, with quite a lot of my military (including well over half of my navy) being committed to the invasion.

We'll see how it goes, eh?

Oh, and BC, here's a link to one of my stories, since you asked.

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=65079

It's magic-y, but I think it's still good. There's some other stuff on that same site if you're interested after reading the one I gave a link to.
Hurtful Thoughts
03-08-2007, 18:29
Um...

Wanna guess who's leading ADAN now?
Hint (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534580)
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 18:48
Yeah, especially since my defense budget is bigger than yours. :p

It begins. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534583)

OOC: Yes, i lowered the tax rate recently because I only needed to mainatin my army, not build it. I still have a larger standing force than you, I'm just not spending a ton of money building it up. You still stand a fair chance of victory, of course, it all depends on strategy.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534583

Greston has gone against CA interests. Someone deal with that, yes?
Tartarystan
03-08-2007, 19:16
Not to mention they're probably also going against the CA here.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12930696#post12930696
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 19:19
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534583

Greston has gone against CA interests. Someone deal with that, yes?

Im the head of the Hegemony, and according to our charter, if you attack one of us youa ttack us all.
Blackhelm Confederacy
03-08-2007, 19:21
Undershi, who are you going to pick as your new ally. I can spare a fleet if necessary.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:29
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12934345&postcount=21

Apparently Cazelia isn't too happy either.
Undershi
03-08-2007, 19:35
Undershi, who are you going to pick as your new ally. I can spare a fleet if necessary.

I don't know who I'll pick, to be honest. I wouldn't mind fighting alongside you, but to be honest I think I can handle Kampfers navy pretty much on my own, even with his allies. However, I'd definitely like to have an ally ready for when things get really ugly. I don't know who, though... any suggestions?
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 20:01
BC, you do realize the Hegemony was already neutral, right?
Maldorians
03-08-2007, 23:47
And I reserve the right to ignore you. Did you not get the message? I don't want to RP with you...

Then it's you who is the wanker. You can't just ignore people because your too lazy to RP it or you might lose..
Maldorians
03-08-2007, 23:49
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534583

Greston has gone against CA interests. Someone deal with that, yes?

I'll take him out. Some hedge monsters can't stop me...
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 00:06
You won't RP with him and he won't RP with you. Seems fine to me. Black will agree.

But Akimonad just said that he wants to invade Kampfers. How is that not RPing with him? Seems like wanking to avoid war to me.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 00:08
Then it's you who is the wanker. You can't just ignore people because your too lazy to RP it or you might lose..

You won't RP with him and he won't RP with you. Seems fine to me. Black will agree.
Fintlewoodle
04-08-2007, 01:20
The Bathist Conglomerate of Fintlewoodle, in being a premier industrial power, and having a Gross Product, yearly, totaling more than two-hundred and thirteen trillion Universal Standard Dollars, would like to request official membership in the Corporate Alliance, the premier capitalist organization in the international world.

Networking is ever a part of a prosperous business strategy.

Our Board of Directors will be awaiting your response.
Emperor Nero
04-08-2007, 02:11
OOC: BC, my target has left the NPE alliance. Furthermore, their nation packed up and moved to a new region as my fleet was approaching. Shall I invade them anyway or pick someone else? I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, attacking them now wouldn't do much for our war effort, but on the other hand, I don't consider moving one's nation to be a legit defense against invasion. I would hate to encourage that.
Fordreich
04-08-2007, 03:06
The nation of Fordreich awaits order to engage a NPE member. Give us the target and when to attack, or give us the name of the nation we are to assist, and we will comply. Standing by and awaiting orders.
Emperor Nero
04-08-2007, 03:51
OOC: BC, my target has left the NPE alliance. Furthermore, their nation packed up and moved to a new region as my fleet was approaching. Shall I invade them anyway or pick someone else? I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, attacking them now wouldn't do much for our war effort, but on the other hand, I don't consider moving one's nation to be a legit defense against invasion. I would hate to encourage that.

TPF and I agreed to the following terms regarding Crystal Mountains:

1) I assume control of the smallest island formerly assigned to Crystal Mountains.
2) My fleet takes 1/3 casualties.
3) Crystal Mountain's two other islands are marked as neutral, and won't be used for the remainder of our alliance wars.

Crystal Mountains is now out of the war. I am going to create an occupation thread tomorrow morning, and expect a counterattack by NPE.

BC, it might be a good idea to assign someone to help me out until I can garrison the island properly. I'm still counting on The United Ed States to help me out, but he hasn't been online for a day or two.

gotta run, cya'll tomorrow
Emperor Nero
04-08-2007, 03:51
The nation of Fordreich awaits order to engage a NPE member. Give us the target and when to attack, or give us the name of the nation we are to assist, and we will comply. Standing by and awaiting orders.

I'm sure BC will hook you up with a target when he is online next. There are plenty to choose from.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 03:53
Just a heads-up. Greater Prussia is joining the war. They'll be posting tomorrow.
Toopoxia
04-08-2007, 03:56
Is there anything I can do to help the war effort?

*Eagerly anticipates his "Participant" Award for his actions in the war*
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 04:06
I have declared the Hegemony's neutrality, so i suggest you have Gens Romae pull out as you said he would before he destroys my city, and i destroy his airforce and half his army.
Fordreich
04-08-2007, 04:15
Wait i talk in OOC here? Meh, w/e xD Anyways, i am looking for a target though. I would much like to invade a fresh country equal to my strength, but if none is found, i would be glad to assist any other members of the CA with their war or something. Just post here and ask for my help, or hit me a telegram. Im out for the night, so bye.
1010102
04-08-2007, 04:23
Wait i talk in OOC here? Meh, w/e xD Anyways, i am looking for a target though. I would much like to invade a fresh country equal to my strength, but if none is found, i would be glad to assist any other members of the CA with their war or something. Just post here and ask for my help, or hit me a telegram. Im out for the night, so bye.

You can invade me.( my NPE claim has a few hundred million people in it only. I wouldn't send reinforcements.)
New Manth
04-08-2007, 04:48
I need someone to fight as well. I scraped this huge fleet together for the last thread and now I don't have anything to do with it. Anyone in particular that needs to get invaded?

Preferably someone without a massively larger military or population than I, and who is not Kampfers since we're in the same vague sort-of alliance.

Not that it's particularly close and all, last time we asked for military assistance they refused. But hey, treaties are treaties.

Now that I look a little, maybe Gataway and I would be a good match. Anyone invading him yet? If not, I'll do the honors.
Barokin
04-08-2007, 05:02
dang, we are gonna get killed
Soulforge Cathedral
04-08-2007, 05:03
I'm willing to help anyone out if need be.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:06
OOC: Someone also might want to teach Gens about the rules. He thinks he has 11,600 helicopters when hes a month old nation.

1) He barely has a fleet to make up for the copters.

2) He barely has any fixed wing craft.


BTW, If I were you, I would be worried. You might get an attack sooner or later...;)
Aurum Domus
04-08-2007, 05:06
OOC: Someone also might want to teach Gens about the rules. He thinks he has 11,600 helicopters when hes a month old nation.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:14
OOC: Newsflash, I'm not part of the NPE you seek to destroy. I am merely friendly with several members of the NPE. Oh and you and the rest of the CA won't win this senseless war, mark my words.

OOC:

I might attack you for personal reasons...:)

We're not winning? Because the wars and battles are saying otherwise.
New Manth
04-08-2007, 05:14
11600 helicopters is not necessarily stretching it. After all, from what I read he's using practically all of his helicopters here. And he doesn't have a navy at all, which means more funds for air forces.

Damn what a mess that thread was to read though. I don't think there was a single IC post in the last page in a half. I'm pretty sure that there is an OOC thread for this war, why is nobody using it? It just makes the threads cluttered and shit to read.

Oh and I've made my mind up, I'll hit Gataway. I think my odds against him are OK, so I might have some forces to spare if anyone needs them...
Aurum Domus
04-08-2007, 05:16
OOC: Newsflash, I'm not part of the NPE you seek to destroy. I am merely friendly with several members of the NPE. Oh and you and the rest of the CA won't win this senseless war, mark my words.
Aurum Domus
04-08-2007, 05:27
OOC: What personal reasons? Our nations have literally no IC interaction except when I was investing in OoA during the occupation.
The Crystal Mountains
04-08-2007, 06:16
OOC: BC, my target has left the NPE alliance. Furthermore, their nation packed up and moved to a new region as my fleet was approaching. Shall I invade them anyway or pick someone else? I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, attacking them now wouldn't do much for our war effort, but on the other hand, I don't consider moving one's nation to be a legit defense against invasion. I would hate to encourage that.

I don't consider it very honerable for a multi-billion pop nation with a trillion dollar budget going after a 200 million pop nation with 60 B to spend per year. I made the only move possible to survive.

I'm quite sure that Poland, given the option, would have moved.

You had 200,000 marines. I had maybe 200,000 troops combined Army, navy and marines.

You rolled out a fleet that outweighed my fleet about 30:1. Not counting the 3 CA fleets rolling Das Reich. Counting them, the odds went up to 200:1.

RPing battles like this is a circle jerk and is only of interest to the jerks.
The Silver Sky
04-08-2007, 06:25
TCM: I could have kicked his ass D:<
1010102
04-08-2007, 06:35
I don't consider it very honerable for a multi-billion pop nation with a trillion dollar budget going after a 200 million pop nation with 60 B to spend per year. I made the only move possible to survive.

I'm quite sure that Poland, given the option, would have moved.

You had 200,000 marines. I had maybe 200,000 troops combined Army, navy and marines.

You rolled out a fleet that outweighed my fleet about 30:1. Not counting the 3 CA fleets rolling Das Reich. Counting them, the odds went up to 200:1.

RPing battles like this is a circle jerk and is only of interest to the jerks.

it might be interesting to die hard last stand fanatics.
Emperor Nero
04-08-2007, 09:07
I don't consider it very honerable for a multi-billion pop nation with a trillion dollar budget going after a 200 million pop nation with 60 B to spend per year. I made the only move possible to survive.

I'm quite sure that Poland, given the option, would have moved.

You had 200,000 marines. I had maybe 200,000 troops combined Army, navy and marines.

You rolled out a fleet that outweighed my fleet about 30:1. Not counting the 3 CA fleets rolling Das Reich. Counting them, the odds went up to 200:1.

RPing battles like this is a circle jerk and is only of interest to the jerks.

Your complaints have been addressed here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12936522&postcount=19

I was just wondering, do you happen to have a map of that island I took over? Thanks.
Deserted Territories
04-08-2007, 13:41
Barokin is all wrapped up and ready for anyone who needs to stage troops there.

And if any of you new nations still need a target try thinking about hitting the NPE headquarters or the Joint training facility. I don't know how much defense they'll put up for them, but they are small and right near my guys, so I'll make sure nothing happens to you.
Akimonad
04-08-2007, 14:42
BC, it might be a good idea to assign someone to help me out until I can garrison the island properly. I'm still counting on The United Ed States to help me out, but he hasn't been online for a day or two.

I can help.

In fact, if anyone wants a small piece of my forces they can have it.
Akimonad
04-08-2007, 15:01
Barokin is all wrapped up and ready for anyone who needs to stage troops there.

And if any of you new nations still need a target try thinking about hitting the NPE headquarters or the Joint training facility. I don't know how much defense they'll put up for them, but they are small and right near my guys, so I'll make sure nothing happens to you.

I think I might try that.
Toopoxia
04-08-2007, 15:34
Everyone grab your Bizaro twin and start crunching!

Dang, I was looking forwards to unleashing righteous payback on Binaria, Nothing personal, it's just Revenge.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 15:58
I think I might try that.

You are bound to the statement of neutrailty that Blackhelm demanded I make.
Akimonad
04-08-2007, 16:02
You are bound to the statement of neutrailty that Blackhelm demanded I make.

I'd be fighting in the name of the CA.
The Crystal Mountains
04-08-2007, 20:17
I was just wondering, do you happen to have a map of that island I took over? Thanks.

Yeah- it's the one marked xxxx yourself xxxxxxx.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 20:20
You should probaly delete that before you get docked for a flame.
Toopoxia
04-08-2007, 20:25
Yeah- it's the one marked fuck yourself jackass.

That was rather rude.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 20:33
I'd be fighting in the name of the CA.

OOC: but if i let nations fight for the CA, i'd have to do the same for the NPE members within the Hegemony, and then there would only be two or three neutral Hegemony nations.
New Manth
04-08-2007, 21:48
Urcea you have a TG.
Emperor Nero
05-08-2007, 14:36
I am having difficulty keeping up with all the invasion threads, but here is what is happening as far as I can tell...


We have Pudu attacking Wanderjar in Nova Europa.

Toops, myself, and possibly The United Ed States are holding down Crystal Island.

Deserted Territories and Maldorians are holding down Barokin.

Undershi is invading Kampfers.

BC and others are invading Grosse Reich.

Soulforge Cathedral, New Manth, Fordreich, and Akimonad have requested targets.

I say we have Soulforge Cathedral wait to see where New Prussia is going to get involved, and have them help in that theatre. The others could get in on the Grosse Reich invasion to expedite our victory there. Sound good?
Deserted Territories
05-08-2007, 14:42
Looks good to me. But as I suggested before, those guys who don't have targets yet could haze the NPE headquarters and Joint training facility untill you find bigger targets. It might put pressure on the NPE nations that are being invaded, they might feel compelled to send support and then open up their nations to the rest of the CA.
Deserted Territories
05-08-2007, 14:50
Nevermind that, I got it.
Emperor Nero
05-08-2007, 14:56
Looks good to me. But as I suggested before, those guys who don't have targets yet could haze the NPE headquarters and Joint training facility untill you find bigger targets. It might put pressure on the NPE nations that are being invaded, they might feel compelled to send support and then open up their nations to the rest of the CA.

I asked the NP'ers what was on the island labeled "NPE Headquarters". It is just office buildings and such. You may as well destroy those buildings since you have a fleet and a bunch of aircraft nearby.

Just be sure you name the thread something catchy like "The Complete and Total Annihilation of NPE Headquarters", and keep it bumped :)
Deserted Territories
05-08-2007, 15:03
I'm liking that name, I think I'll use it. And after that i'm gonna swing my missle artillery over to that traing facility.
Maldorians
05-08-2007, 17:21
I'm liking that name, I think I'll use it. And after that i'm gonna swing my missle artillery over to that traing facility.

rawr. Count me in...:D
Fordreich
05-08-2007, 17:49
I think i will stay out of this war for a little bit more. I am trying to beef up my military to the max. I've been buying equipments since i started Rping on the boards, but its puny compared to what some ppl have, and i dont like it :P Though if someone really desperately needs help, or if Urcea is going to war with someone(Im Urcea's colony, though im a completely different person), ill be glad to join.
Blackhelm Confederacy
05-08-2007, 17:51
I have a task for all you boys, just wait for the TG.
Soulforge Cathedral
06-08-2007, 00:01
Got it.
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 00:08
Got it.

Yours has been sent.
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 00:10
rawr. Count me in...:D

I predict running out of airplanes much much faster than I expected. I'm not going to be able to realisticly bring in support in a timely fashion so, if you happen to want to help just jet on in.
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 00:42
I have a task for all you boys, just wait for the TG.


/me is waiting.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 00:44
I got a TG earlier, it wasn't from Blackhelm though...

In other news I feel completely sick, I think I must have caught something from my ex girlfriend, excuse me, the toilet is calling.
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 00:49
Ouch, tough break Toops.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 00:58
Ouch, tough break Toops.

Hey, It might just be the extreme summer heat we're facing here in England, but either way I'm slightly halucinagenic and testy, so apologies in advance to whomsoever I insult
Undershi
06-08-2007, 01:29
Okay, my invasion of Kampfers is going fairly well, although I'm taking cassualties. Things are looking good, though - I can still probably take on Kampfers and co. on my own.
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 01:32
Hey, It might just be the extreme summer heat we're facing here in England, but either way I'm slightly halucinagenic and testy, so apologies in advance to whomsoever I insult

Your TG is sent

Okay, my invasion of Kampfers is going fairly well, although I'm taking cassualties. Things are looking good, though - I can still probably take on Kampfers and co. on my own.

Ok, sounds good. Remember, if you need help, just ask.
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 01:34
Your TG is sent

Wha bout me???
Tocrowkia
06-08-2007, 01:34
So...I'm assuming you just gave up in attacking my fleet in the furry war, then?
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 01:36
So...I'm assuming you just gave up in attacking my fleet in the furry war, then?

I was under the impression that was over, no?
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 01:37
Wha bout me???

You are also in Hegemony. It would be hypocritical of me to present you with a target.
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 01:38
You are also in Hegemony. It would be hypocritical of me to present you with a target.

Not anymore.
Fordreich
06-08-2007, 01:38
As always, if you need help, holler. I would take you into account, and make a decision if i should join in or not. Though as i said earlier, i am still beefing my military. I may not be the best support you could/would get. Unless im assigned a task, i think imma slip into neutrality in this matter so call me quick! :D
Tocrowkia
06-08-2007, 01:38
I was under the impression that was over, no?

It lasted about one to two days longer after you posted, and I posted my response.
Fordreich
06-08-2007, 01:41
Guys, heads up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534788

talking about invading Gens Romae and one other guy. It clearly lists CA as its target, so i say we do something about this guy. Not a huge force, so i bet one of our small guys can take him.
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 01:48
Not anymore.

Ok, I'll find someone for you.

As always, if you need help, holler. I would take you into account, and make a decision if i should join in or not. Though as i said earlier, i am still beefing my military. I may not be the best support you could/would get. Unless im assigned a task, i think imma slip into neutrality in this matter so call me quick! :D

Check your TG's.
Neo-Erusea
06-08-2007, 01:48
Going to send forces....

EDIT: Woot! 1,000th post! :D
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 01:57
Guys, heads up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534788

talking about invading Gens Romae and one other guy. It clearly lists CA as its target, so i say we do something about this guy. Not a huge force, so i bet one of our small guys can take him.

I think I just found where I need to help out.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 02:01
Black, check ye'r TG's, unless ye have done so already in which case... urm... good job *thumbs up*
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 02:09
Replied.
Fordreich
06-08-2007, 03:05
Another heads up guys, UFAN has voted, yes, to going to war against Gens Romae. I think we will need some more support there, as BL is going against us. Another notice is that me and BL will not be exchanging missiles. We have signed a mututal friendship pact, which is basically a NAP. I hope you guys dont have a problem with it. I like the guy, what can i say? :p
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 03:09
I'd love to help out, but if BC's plans go to count then I'll be needing every man, woman and weapon to fight off what my way comes.
Hurtful Thoughts
06-08-2007, 04:48
*is speechless*

You declaring war on UFAN?

Kinda would make things a tad strung out to dry what with Toops (CA) and BL (UFAN) asking to join ADAN...

Would you like to retract your ADAN aplication?
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 04:51
*is speechless*

You declaring war on UFAN?

Kinda would make things a tad strung out to dry what with Toops (CA) and BL (UFAN) asking to join ADAN...

Would you like to retract your ADAN aplication?

Egh, speaking purely OOCly, things look kinda dire for the CA, and hell I didn't even know I had applied for the ADAN, well... *Grabs his violin* It's been a pleasure playing with you guys *waits for the SS CA to sink*
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 04:52
Egh, speaking purely OOCly, things look kinda dire for the CA, and hell I didn't even know I had applied for the ADAN, well... *Grabs his violin* It's been a pleasure playing with you guys *waits for the SS CA to sink*

*blinks eyes*

What just happened?
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 05:11
*blinks eyes*

What just happened?

It gets dramatically less funny if I explain it...

Basically, I was parodying the violin players on the Titanic who continued to play soothfully whilst the ship around them sank.
Emperor Nero
06-08-2007, 05:12
*is speechless*

You declaring war on UFAN?

Kinda would make things a tad strung out to dry what with Toops (CA) and BL (UFAN) asking to join ADAN...

Would you like to retract your ADAN aplication?

??

We didn't declare war on UFAN.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:13
It gets dramatically less funny if I explain it...

Basically, I was parodying the violin players on the Titanic who continued to play soothfully whilst the ship around them sank.

Not that! "It's been a pleasure playing with you guys" Are you leaving us? :(
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:14
??

We didn't declare war on UFAN.

Nero! What happened with CCM?
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 05:14
??

We didn't declare war on UFAN.

No, it was the other way around. UFAN declared war on the CA.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 05:15
Not that! "It's been a pleasure playing with you guys" Are you leaving us? :(

Of course not! I'll continue to fight whilst the Alliance around me sinks, besides fighting the war provides a far greater literary bonus than turning tail and legging it.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:17
Of course not! I'll continue to fight whilst the Alliance around me sinks, besides fighting the war provides a far greater literary bonus than turning tail and legging it.

Thank the Lord! *throws Toops into the fight* Go kill the NPE!
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:27
No, other alliances can and will get involved. But ADAN is unlikely to help you, fyi.

Kampfers said that no other alliance can join. From what I read, the UFAN can't join.
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 05:30
Kampfers said that no other alliance can join. From what I read, the UFAN can't join.

Wanna stop trying to prove me wrong and butchering my statements? I said that other alliances COULD join. Now stop being an immature 13 year old.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:34
Wanna stop trying to prove me wrong and butchering my statements? I said that other alliances COULD join. Now stop being an immature 13 year old.

Really? Who said I was 13? Butchering your statements? Go look at your post yourself...;)
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 05:39
Really? Who said I was 13? Butchering your statements? Go look at your post yourself...;)

Your 14. But you aint acting like it. I know what i said. I said other alliances
could join.
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 05:43
No, other alliances can and will get involved. But ADAN is unlikely to help you, fyi.

I rest my case.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:44
Your 14. But you aint acting like it. I know what i said. I said other alliances
could join.

yay! You got my age right. Well then if you knew what you said they why didn't you explain it to me in a normal, however old you are manner...>_< I misread what you wrote, that is all. I thought you said "No alliances" instead of "No, alliances"
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 05:46
yay! You got my age right. Well then if you knew what you said they why didn't you explain it to me in a normal, however old you are manner...>_< I misread what you wrote, that is all. I thought you said "No alliances" instead of "No, alliances"

An easy mistake, I read it like that at first too. But anyway, back to warring and slaughtering....
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 05:59
yay! You got my age right. Well then if you knew what you said they why didn't you explain it to me in a normal, however old you are manner...>_< I misread what you wrote, that is all. I thought you said "No alliances" instead of "No, alliances"

Aight well the way you had been treating me since we kicked you from the NPE made me feel like this was another ine of your "Im right your wrong" spiels.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 07:18
Thank the Lord! *throws Toops into the fight* Go kill the NPE!

*Puts on his fighting face*

Urgh, grawr!

Haha, the power of misplaced comma, it's killed men before.
Dephire
06-08-2007, 13:19
Egh, speaking purely OOCly, things look kinda dire for the CA, and hell I didn't even know I had applied for the ADAN, well... *Grabs his violin* It's been a pleasure playing with you guys *waits for the SS CA to sink*

No, I noticed ur post was strictly OOC, and thus regarded as so.

To answer your question, CA members are allowed to apply for membership.

Also, why the hell did they declare war on the CA?

I wish everyone good luck, and an aid package will ICly be prepped.
Fordreich
06-08-2007, 13:59
The thing that is funny is that UFAN joined the war not because we attacked one of their members, but because one of their members attacked us. Its really stupid, and they should know that it is dishonorable to go to war like this.
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 15:11
The thing that is funny is that UFAN joined the war not because we attacked one of their members, but because one of their members attacked us. Its really stupid, and they should know that it is dishonorable to go to war like this.

Not really, since the CA is ICly a dishonourable alliance, so assisting the Prussians in their elimination is quite honourable in fact.
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 15:36
The thing that is funny is that UFAN joined the war not because we attacked one of their members, but because one of their members attacked us. Its really stupid, and they should know that it is dishonorable to go to war like this.

Did you just forget about me?
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 15:52
Did you just forget about me?

Of course not! Noone could EVER forget about you!!! :p
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 16:34
*Puts on his fighting face*

Urgh, grawr!

Haha, the power of misplaced comma, it's killed men before.

Not just commas, capitalization too:

I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.
I helped my Uncle jack off a horse.
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 16:37
Not just commas, capitalization too:

I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.
I helped my Uncle jack off a horse.

lol :eek:
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 16:37
Not just commas, capitalization too:

I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.
I helped my Uncle jack off a horse.

0__o

That is all....*Cries*


BTW, can someone just RP the HQ losses aka all of the stuff there blew up... :D
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 16:37
0__o

That is all....*Cries*


BTW, can someone just RP the HQ losses aka all of the stuff there blew up... :D

All you might have hurt is infrastructure. Thats is all. Thus, you'll find out when we would, after the battle. Since I won't be surveying until after its conclusion.
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 16:38
Anyways, the CA is like a weed, or some kind of resiliant bush. We take forever to stamp out.
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 16:40
All you might have hurt is infrastructure. Thats is all. Thus, you'll find out when we would, after the battle. Since I won't be surveying until after its conclusion.

It was started as more of a morale destroying thing. It's going to be the equivalent of having the white house or capitol destroyed.
Vanek Drury Brieres
06-08-2007, 16:40
Hi, I'm thinking about joining the CA, but I'm not sure if I should....
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 16:40
Anyways, the CA is like a weed, or some kind of resiliant bush. We take forever to stamp out.

And then we grow back, really quickly. You forgot that part.
Akimonad
06-08-2007, 16:41
Hi, I'm thinking about joining the CA, but I'm not sure if I should....

Care to elaborate?
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 16:41
Hi, I'm thinking about joining the CA, but I'm not sure if I should....

Well if you're not sure you'll want to stay or not, now is a pretty good time to sign up. We might not be here forever...
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 16:42
It was started as more of a morale destroying thing. It's going to be the equivalent of having the white house or capitol destroyed.

Thing about it is we really don't care about the HQ island. We may have some command centers, but it'll just piss us off, not hurt us really. If you want to hurt us (The NPE as a whole), blow up Wanderjarian Imperial Palace, or kill Emperor Baker, but you're more likely to assassinate the leader of AMF lol
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 16:51
Well if you're not sure you'll want to stay or not, now is a pretty good time to sign up. We might not be here forever...

*punches j00*

Don't talk like that! :(
The World Soviet Party
06-08-2007, 16:53
*Cue with a Priest's voice*

REPENT YOU SINNERS, THE END IS NEAR, REPENT!
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 17:06
Well you say it only annoys you, but it has got your attention, hasn't it?

And the end has already come and gone and we're still here.
Undershi
06-08-2007, 20:00
I think we'll last - we outlasted the GASN, didn't we? Remember when they invaded BC? Now that was a moment when the CA looked set to collapse... but it didn't. We will prevail. We are just too determined not to.
Fordreich
06-08-2007, 20:07
determination wont overcome statistics and logistics. We have possibly 3 alliances to fight now, and that will not be easy at all...
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 20:09
determination wont overcome statistics and logistics. We have possibly 3 alliances to fight now, and that will not be easy at all...

Whilst that may be true we can sure as hell give them a damn good fight before we're ended.
Emperor Nero
06-08-2007, 20:11
Who are we fighting that is not part of the NPE? If possible, please provide links to the threads in question or at least a thread name for me to look for.
The PeoplesFreedom
06-08-2007, 20:11
Nero,
You are fighting
UFAN
Greater Prussia

Some other people AFAIK.
Deserted Territories
06-08-2007, 21:42
I don't think any of us are being invaded yet are we?
Well, I suppose Gens Romanea is, and Toops was with Gallia, but that has fallen off the radar so, I don't think it qualifys.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 21:47
I don't think any of us are being invaded yet are we?
Well, I suppose Gens Romanea is, and Toops was with Gallia, but that has fallen off the radar so, I don't think it qualifys.

Nope. We're all good. DT, do you have AIM or MSN? I have a question about the NPE HQ attack...
The PeoplesFreedom
06-08-2007, 21:48
But for how much longer are you 'good? ;)
Vontanas
06-08-2007, 22:15
Official Corporate Telegram:
To: Corporate Alliance
From: Tucker E. Boot, CEO of Buy & Sell Incorporated
After hearing of the danger your glorious corporate empire is in we have endeavored to help you however we can. As you may or may not know, we have a mercenary branch. We are willing to hire out two divisions, one heavy troop division, and one light troop division. They have recieved the best Offence & Defence Mercenaries training could provide, all four thousand of them. They work as a unit, and are trained as well as most armies. They come with uniform armor, and are trained in urban and defensive warfare. All of this for only two hundred fifty million, plus twenty thousand for each death after one thousand.

In addition, we would like to loan twenty-five million, no interest, in the Corporate Alliance. Stability for the market that fuels my corporate empire. Stabilty for Oil and Coal.

OOC: You can RP the mercs; this thing is way over my head.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 22:20
and Toops was with Gallia, but that has fallen off the radar so, I don't think it qualifys.

I don't think it's been Retconned, I saw Wandy offhandidly mention it in his interview with TWSP's news thread, either way I'd like to keep it as an example of NPE agression and down trouser attacking.

Also, after having realised my MU colony was called Gallia I decided to rename the wartorn Gallia, Saan Gali, it's not a major point of contention but still its worth noting.
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 22:43
TO: The Corporate Alliance
FROM: Kampfers
SUBJECT: UFAN's Withdrawl

These are the terms that UFAN brings before you. Some are negotiable, some are not.

1) All UFAN nations and territories will go untouched in the war. This includes the nation of Kampfers.

2) The Corporate Alliance will reimburse UFAN the sum of 15 trillion dollars, 8 trillion of which will go to Kampfers. The rest will be divided among UFAN members involved.

3) UFAN will declare a state of peace between the two alliances and will not sanction further action against the Corporate Alliance. However, individual nations may pursue their conquests, though not with UFAN backing.

4) Kampfers will be allowed to remain wholly in the conflict as they are a member of the New Prussian Empire, but even though they fight against the Corporate Alliance, their land will still go untouched.

5) The Corporate Alliance will condemn the use of nuclear warheads, even those of the tactical size, by any and all member states, and promises to accept the consequences should this be violated.

Once again, some terms are negotiable, and some are not. How does this sound?

Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff

OOC: This is really for BC only, but ya'll are free to comment on it.
Calizorinstan
06-08-2007, 22:43
I regret to announce that our membership in the Corporate Alliance must be put on hold until further notice, for it is not in our best interests to be in this alliance. We regret it, and may come back at a point, but we just don't agree with some of the actions that the Corporate Alliance has been taking lately, and thus we feel compelled to resign,


Adios Amigos, or former Amigos,

Señor Arnold
Presidente of Calizorinstan.
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 22:46
I regret to announce that our membership in the Corporate Alliance must be put on hold until further notice, for it is not in our best interests to be in this alliance. We regret it, and may come back at a point, but we just don't agree with some of the actions that the Corporate Alliance has been taking lately, and thus we feel compelled to resign,


Adios Amigos, or former Amigos,

Señor Arnold
Presidente of Calizorinstan.

Aren't you an NPE member too?
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 22:47
I regret to announce that our membership in the Corporate Alliance must be put on hold until further notice, for it is not in our best interests to be in this alliance. We regret it, and may come back at a point, but we just don't agree with some of the actions that the Corporate Alliance has been taking lately, and thus we feel compelled to resign,


Adios Amigos, or former Amigos,

Señor Arnold
Presidente of Calizorinstan.

(OOC: Don't take this the wrong way, but, Coward :P )
The PeoplesFreedom
06-08-2007, 22:48
Aren't you an NPE member too?

He is.
Calizorinstan
06-08-2007, 22:49
(OOC: Don't take this the wrong way, but, Coward :P )

OOC: You might view it as that, but this is what I call honorable cowardice, in this time, I do not want to be split between alliances, I am fully supporting the NPE, UFAN and the Hegemony now.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 22:51
OOC: You might view it as that, but this is what I call honorable cowardice, in this time, I do not want to be split between alliances, I am fully supporting the NPE, UFAN and the Hegemony now.

(OOC: Aha, correction then, Traitor! :P :P )
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 22:51
OOC: You might view it as that, but this is what I call honorable cowardice, in this time, I do not want to be split between alliances, I am fully supporting the NPE, UFAN and the Hegemony now.

*Grins*
Calizorinstan
06-08-2007, 22:53
(OOC: Aha, correction then, Traitor! :P :P )

OOC: Ah ha, I am only your enemy IC, OOC, you're cool Toops!, you're Tops in OOC, get it, haha!, anyways, I planned the IC "betraying" of the CA to the NPE for 72 hours in advance, so I am quite the sneak. Frankly I don't care if I get destroyed by the CA, I can always rebuild with the help of my allies, and frankly Wanderjar, I hope you aren't going to let me be pummeled by these guys...
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 22:55
TO: The Corporate Alliance
FROM: Kampfers
SUBJECT: UFAN's Withdrawl

These are the terms that UFAN brings before you. Some are negotiable, some are not.

1) All UFAN nations and territories will go untouched in the war. This includes the nation of Kampfers.

2) The Corporate Alliance will reimburse UFAN the sum of 15 trillion dollars, 8 trillion of which will go to Kampfers. The rest will be divided among UFAN members involved.

3) UFAN will declare a state of peace between the two alliances and will not sanction further action against the Corporate Alliance. However, individual nations may pursue their conquests, though not with UFAN backing.

4) Kampfers will be allowed to remain wholly in the conflict as they are a member of the New Prussian Empire, but even though they fight against the Corporate Alliance, their land will still go untouched.

5) The Corporate Alliance will condemn the use of nuclear warheads, even those of the tactical size, by any and all member states, and promises to accept the consequences should this be violated.

Once again, some terms are negotiable, and some are not. How does this sound?

Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff

OOC: This is really for BC only, but ya'll are free to comment on it.

OOC: Bullshit, but that's just my opinion.
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 22:57
OOC: Ah ha, I am only your enemy IC, OOC, you're cool Toops!, you're Tops in OOC, get it, haha!, anyways, I planned the IC "betraying" of the CA to the NPE for 72 hours in advance, so I am quite the sneak. Frankly I don't care if I get destroyed by the CA, I can always rebuild with the help of my allies, and frankly Wanderjar, I hope you aren't going to let me be pummeled by these guys...

(OOC: Well, if my own lack of optimism catches up with me then you could soon be seeing a larger more good guy Toops surfacing in the near future, I've actually had the thought of treachery cross my mind before purely for the plot hooks that it would sow, but Leafanistan scares me into place :| )
British Londinium
06-08-2007, 22:57
OOC: By the way, what was the cause of the CA-NPE war?
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 22:58
OOC: You might view it as that, but this is what I call honorable cowardice, in this time, I do not want to be split between alliances, I am fully supporting the NPE, UFAN and the Hegemony now.

The Hegemony are neutral and the UFAN might be neutral. So really, you are supporting the NPE... :P
Toopoxia
06-08-2007, 23:06
OOC: By the way, what was the cause of the CA-NPE war?

Boredom after the end of the GASN I think.

Though the real conflict I beleive sparked from issues raised in the Saan Gali War.
Calizorinstan
06-08-2007, 23:06
The Hegemony are neutral and the UFAN might be neutral. So really, you are supporting the NPE... :P

I am a member, and if I fall, I will go fighting, guns blazing!
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 23:35
TO: The Corporate Alliance
FROM: Kampfers
SUBJECT: UFAN's Withdrawl

These are the terms that UFAN brings before you. Some are negotiable, some are not.

1) All UFAN nations and territories will go untouched in the war. This includes the nation of Kampfers.

2) The Corporate Alliance will reimburse UFAN the sum of 15 trillion dollars, 8 trillion of which will go to Kampfers. The rest will be divided among UFAN members involved.

3) UFAN will declare a state of peace between the two alliances and will not sanction further action against the Corporate Alliance. However, individual nations may pursue their conquests, though not with UFAN backing.

4) Kampfers will be allowed to remain wholly in the conflict as they are a member of the New Prussian Empire, but even though they fight against the Corporate Alliance, their land will still go untouched.

5) The Corporate Alliance will condemn the use of nuclear warheads, even those of the tactical size, by any and all member states, and promises to accept the consequences should this be violated.

Once again, some terms are negotiable, and some are not. How does this sound?

Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff

OOC: This is really for BC only, but ya'll are free to comment on it.

Your terms are acceptable, and we look forward to an era of peace.
- Claudius Griffincrest
New Manth
06-08-2007, 23:39
1) All UFAN nations and territories will go untouched in the war. This includes the nation of Kampfers.

2)... 8 trillion of which will go to Kampfers. The rest will be divided among UFAN members involved.

4) Kampfers will be allowed to remain wholly in the conflict as they are a member of the New Prussian Empire, but even though they fight against the Corporate Alliance, their land will still go untouched.

My comments are thus

You expect us to give Kampfers 8 trillion dollars which they will turn around and spend on attacking us, while promising not to fight back against them while they invade us? And you call this a 'peace treaty'?

Can't speak for the rest of the CA, but from New Manth:

Get stuffed.

At Blackhelm:

You can accept this treaty of you want. New Manth isn't going to. Even calling it a peace treaty is BS. It's basically a promise that we ourselves will finance the enemy invasion of us.
Vetaka
06-08-2007, 23:54
My comments are thus

You expect us to give Kampfers 8 trillion dollars which they will turn around and spend on attacking us, while promising not to fight back against them while they invade us? And you call this a 'peace treaty'?

Can't speak for the rest of the CA, but from New Manth:

Get stuffed.

At Blackhelm:

You can accept this treaty of you want. New Manth isn't going to. Even calling it a peace treaty is BS. It's basically a promise that we ourselves will finance the enemy invasion of us.

If the whole of the CA accept this then it will be upheld UFAN is Loyal and Honourable. My Reputation of Loyalty is well known within NS. If this is accepted then Peace will be the result on the part of UFAN. If it is to be required then the the Article regarding money maybe dropped.

V
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 23:55
My comments are thus

You expect us to give Kampfers 8 trillion dollars which they will turn around and spend on attacking us, while promising not to fight back against them while they invade us? And you call this a 'peace treaty'?

Can't speak for the rest of the CA, but from New Manth:

Get stuffed.

At Blackhelm:

You can accept this treaty of you want. New Manth isn't going to. Even calling it a peace treaty is BS. It's basically a promise that we ourselves will finance the enemy invasion of us.

That is a valid point. However, Kampfer is not that powerful a nation, and can only contribute so many men to the war, By accepting this, we are keeping an entire alliance from interfering.
Kampfers
06-08-2007, 23:59
That is a valid point. However, Kampfer is not that powerful a nation, and can only contribute so many men to the war, By accepting this, we are keeping an entire alliance from interfering.

The issue is that you forced me to waste a lot of money on Undershi's invasion. As such, I suggest that you wait to compensate us until after the war if it is such an issue. If not, then give me the money now.

:P
Vetaka
07-08-2007, 00:01
Come on its a good Deal. Do we have an arrangement?
Aurum Domus
07-08-2007, 00:06
If the money goes through then can me and CP have a half a trillion each since we both commited our forces to invasion that never happened? We both were hoping to make some money with the capture of Gens Romae.
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 00:09
If the money goes through then can me and CP have a half a trillion each since we both commited our forces to invasion that never happened? We both were hoping to make some money with the capture of Gens Romae.

TG.
Wagdog
07-08-2007, 00:49
OOC: Might as well get this in here before it gets situationally-pwnd by the rapid-fire posting. First: I'm back, and shall be RPing my forces accordingly soon. Second: I'm indifferent regarding the UFAN peace deal, since I'd hoped to smash at least Gallia before matters came to where Gens Romae took them; but my nation will keep fighting the CA and defending any individual UFAN members that come under attack. I struck under GUSN membership as a favor to Wanderjar, and I have no intention of stopping now that the situation is turning favorable. Note that I'm only indifferent because BL seems to have parried GR's attempted n00king. Had that hit, my IC response to any peace proposal would be along the lines of New Manth's; and may go there yet if Calizorinstan or any other UFAN members come under fire.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 00:57
I've put up an article on NS Wiki covering the Saan Gali war, I'm hoping to be able to have covered all the theatres of the CA-Prussian War no matter the outcome but NS Wiki seems to be its normal spazzy self and is not functioning.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 01:01
I've put up an article on NS Wiki covering the Saan Gali war, I'm hoping to be able to have covered all the theatres of the CA-Prussian War no matter the outcome but NS Wiki seems to be its normal spazzy self and is not functioning.

Linky?
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 01:09
Linky?

Mnyaah (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Saan_Gali_War)

It did have all the forces on either side before Wiki spazzed up, turns out it was like 8 CA members against 11 NPE peoples.
New Manth
07-08-2007, 01:16
That is a valid point. However, Kampfer is not that powerful a nation, and can only contribute so many men to the war, By accepting this, we are keeping an entire alliance from interfering.

Except that this peace treaty... isn't.

However, individual nations may pursue their conquests, though not with UFAN backing.

What does this mean? It means any UFAN member who wants to - and any UFAN members who don't want to probably aren't fighting in the first place - is free to continue warring with us. What a 'peace treaty'. It does nothing at all towards actually making peace.

5) The Corporate Alliance will condemn the use of nuclear warheads, even those of the tactical size, by any and all member states, and promises to accept the consequences should this be violated.

And this. New Manth uses depth bombs for submarine hunting when necessary, and even when not, like hell we will give up our strategic deterrent because some Kampferian tinpot feels threatened.

Not to mention that 'the consequences' could be whatever UFAN wants, since they aren't spelled out. Including repudiating the treaty and running away with the cash.

Vetaka, I know your nation has a reputation for straight dealing, but with respect not all of UFAN does, and this treaty doesn't bind them to do squat.

Come on. This is a peace treaty that doesn't bind any members of the UFAN to actually make peace with us. At all. They will take our money and use it to finance the war against us.

This is more lopsided than the treaty against Hataria. And hell, we're winning on several fronts. Several nations have already surrendered to us. No need to roll over and play dead. If they come for use we can punish them, even if we lose - which is by no means certain. Millions of them will die. We should hold out for an equitable treaty (and one that actually binds them to peace).

If they refuse they will no doubt be condemning millions of their citizens to death because they couldn't get a few pennies in a lopsided treaty. Up to them to make that choice.
New Manth
07-08-2007, 01:22
The issue is that you forced me to waste a lot of money on Undershi's invasion. As such, I suggest that you wait to compensate us until after the war if it is such an issue. If not, then give me the money now.

:P

Given that it was you guys who started the war... why should you get reparations at all?
New Manth
07-08-2007, 01:28
Come on its a good Deal. Do we have an arrangement?

It's a worse deal than the fricking Treaty of Versailles.
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 01:37
Manth, we're gonna go with the better of our two very bad available options here, it's not as bad as it seems.

I'll support BC's decision and even chip in for the reparations he has agreed to pay, but i'd be making myself a liar if I didn't point out the ludicricy of the below statement to BC.

4) Kampfers will be allowed to remain wholly in the conflict as they are a member of the New Prussian Empire, but even though they fight against the Corporate Alliance, their land will still go untouched.
The PeoplesFreedom
07-08-2007, 01:39
Invasion of DT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534889)
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 01:53
Already ahead of you, noticed it not 6 minutes ago.

I'm going to need naval support on this one, my navy is in Barokin.
Vontanas
07-08-2007, 01:57
Official Corporate Telegram:
To: Corporate Alliance
From: Tucker E. Boot, CEO of Buy & Sell Incorporated
After hearing of the danger your glorious corporate empire is in we have endeavored to help you however we can. As you may or may not know, we have a mercenary branch. We are willing to hire out two mercenary groups, one heavy troop division, and one light troop division. They have recieved the best Offence & Defence Mercenaries training could provide, all four thousand of them. They work as a unit, and are trained as well as most armies. They come with uniform armor, and are trained in urban and defensive warfare. All of this for only two hundred fifty million, plus twenty thousand for each death after one thousand.

In addition, we would like to loan twenty-five million, no interest, in the Corporate Alliance. Stability for the market that fuels my corporate empire. Stabilty for Oil and Coal.

OOC: You can RP the mercs; this thing is way over my head.

*cough* *cough*
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 02:03
Already ahead of you, noticed it not 6 minutes ago.

I'm going to need naval support on this one, my navy is in Barokin.

TG
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 02:04
*cough* *cough*

Men I got, ships... they're a different animal.
New Manth
07-08-2007, 03:08
Manth, we're gonna go with the better of our two very bad available options here, it's not as bad as it seems.

I'll support BC's decision and even chip in for the reparations he has agreed to pay, but i'd be making myself a liar if I didn't point out the ludicricy of the below statement to BC.

I'm not saying we shouldn't negotiate peace. Just that we should negotiate the patently ridiculous parts out. Like that one, or the fact that there's nothing about them actually making peace with us in the 'peace treaty'

After all, Kampfers said that terms would be negotiable.
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 03:29
Except that this peace treaty... isn't.



What does this mean? It means any UFAN member who wants to - and any UFAN members who don't want to probably aren't fighting in the first place - is free to continue warring with us. What a 'peace treaty'. It does nothing at all towards actually making peace.



And this. New Manth uses depth bombs for submarine hunting when necessary, and even when not, like hell we will give up our strategic deterrent because some Kampferian tinpot feels threatened.

Not to mention that 'the consequences' could be whatever UFAN wants, since they aren't spelled out. Including repudiating the treaty and running away with the cash.

Vetaka, I know your nation has a reputation for straight dealing, but with respect not all of UFAN does, and this treaty doesn't bind them to do squat.

Come on. This is a peace treaty that doesn't bind any members of the UFAN to actually make peace with us. At all. They will take our money and use it to finance the war against us.

This is more lopsided than the treaty against Hataria. And hell, we're winning on several fronts. Several nations have already surrendered to us. No need to roll over and play dead. If they come for use we can punish them, even if we lose - which is by no means certain. Millions of them will die. We should hold out for an equitable treaty (and one that actually binds them to peace).

If they refuse they will no doubt be condemning millions of their citizens to death because they couldn't get a few pennies in a lopsided treaty. Up to them to make that choice.

OK, first off, your leader already agreed to the treaty. So this is a moot point. But I will answer a few questions you have.

What does this mean? It means any UFAN member who wants to - and any UFAN members who don't want to probably aren't fighting in the first place - is free to continue warring with us. What a 'peace treaty'. It does nothing at all towards actually making peace.

Actually, we WERE about to launch a massive attack with some of UFAN's bigger members involved. Now we won't. And, like most alliances, the individual member is allowed to fight his own battles. We do not meddle in their affairs. As such, we will not encourage them to fight the CA anymore, but we won't be bitches and tell them to pull back either. Also, many UFAN members are bound to members of the NPE through other alliances. Calizornistan is IN the NPE. Wanderjar and Wagdog are GUSN buddies. Me and Vetaka have a deeper alliance than UFAN will ever be.

And this. New Manth uses depth bombs for submarine hunting when necessary, and even when not, like hell we will give up our strategic deterrent because some Kampferian tinpot feels threatened.

Not to mention that 'the consequences' could be whatever UFAN wants, since they aren't spelled out. Including repudiating the treaty and running away with the cash.

Kampferian tinpot? Excuse me, but I'm not the one floundering around in the bottom of a dying alliance. Anyways, you can still use depth charges. Just not nuclear ones. I spelled that out in the other thread as well. If you do, you will face the consequences. What consequences? Oh, how about the nuclear arsenals of UFAN, the NPE, Greater Prussia, and possibly even GUSN soon, all coming to annihilate your worthless nation?

This is more lopsided than the treaty against Hataria. And hell, we're winning on several fronts. Several nations have already surrendered to us. No need to roll over and play dead. If they come for use we can punish them, even if we lose - which is by no means certain. Millions of them will die. We should hold out for an equitable treaty (and one that actually binds them to peace).

Actually, the Hatarian treaty never existed. And no, you are actually not winning any fronts. Nero just withdrew from the fight, giving you one less ally, and a valuable one at that. Wanderjar will easily repel Pudu, but I am not going to give away the battleplan. Blackhelm stands nearly alone in his fight. Undershi is outnumbered. Even if he does win the naval battle, the cost will be to great for him to begin the land. Every day, more and more of our allies join the fight. Toops knows ya'll are on the losing end of the battle. Read his posts in this thread. The only reson Barokin surrendered is because Mal is his RL friend and strongarmed him into doing it. Quite metagaming, but I'm not going to argue about that. And the last time I looked, BC spoke for the CA, and you were a lowly scrub among their ranks. BC already accepted the treaty, so your holdout will be alone.

If they refuse they will no doubt be condemning millions of their citizens to death because they couldn't get a few pennies in a lopsided treaty. Up to them to make that choice

Wat are you talking about UFAN? Because the way it looks to me now, it's the CA who needs to watch their homefronts. DT is being invaded. Many others may be in the works. And heres the best part. YOU DON'T KNOW!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm done talking nonsense with nobodies.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 03:49
Toops knows ya'll are on the losing end of the battle. Read his posts in this thread.

You're mean!

Besides I'm playing the Pessimist, everyone needs one and those without end up dead, asides from that this war is entertaining either way and to be honest I'd like to see a conflict failed rather than a steam roller, I've said it before, the plot hooks provided are far greater.

And just cos OOCly I happen to think we're on the losing side doesn't make that sentiment carried over to my IC nation, well okay maybe in the case of Spooty, but that's besides the point, ICly the Toopoxicans beleive wholey that the NPE are in their end of days and that this war will be tough but worth the cost.
Emperor Nero
07-08-2007, 03:56
SIC

Imperial Statement to the Corporate Alliance

Having forced Barokin to capitulate alongside our Maldorian allies,

and

Having forced Calizornistan to switch allegiances under threat of invasion,

and

Having forced Crystal Mountains to abandon their territory under threat of invasion,

and

Having claimed Crystal Island for the Empire,

and

Having suffered minimal casualties while accomplishing these deeds;

Emperor Nero has agreed to favorable peace terms with the New Prussian Empire. The Empire along with her new colony are now neutral parties in the CA vs. NPE war.

As our peace agreement is limited to the New Prussian Empire, expect Imperial forces to be redeployed to other theatres in short order.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 03:58
Sneeep

(OOC: Excellent, so I take it you can still fight off the NPE's allies in this conflict correct?)
Emperor Nero
07-08-2007, 04:11
(OOC: Excellent, so I take it you can still fight off the NPE's allies in this conflict correct?)

OOC: I will be fighting someone, but I am not sure who that will be just yet. I'm going to look around for CA war threads, where not NPE nations are involved. If I find none, I will start one.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 04:21
OOC: I will be fighting someone, but I am not sure who that will be just yet. I'm going to look around for CA war threads, where not NPE nations are involved. If I find none, I will start one.

(OOC: Ewww, I just sneezed and its all green and squishy and on my favourite Pink Floyd T-Shirt >_<

Erm, anyways, I was trying to think of someone who would be good to get off our backs and then the whole sneezing incident occured (We'll call it Snotgate just to be really unoriginal) but I can't thunk of anyone who really needs a CA brand kicking in the back of the head... Not that I condone backwards head kicking.)
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 04:22
OOC: I will be fighting someone, but I am not sure who that will be just yet. I'm going to look around for CA war threads, where not NPE nations are involved. If I find none, I will start one.

I think there are a few. If not, wait until this time tommorow. :D
Emperor Nero
07-08-2007, 04:26
I think there are a few. If not, wait until this time tommorow. :D

OOC: Just curious... has UFAN made a formal declaration of war against the CA? Also, is UFAN wanting to fight PMT wars like CA and NPE are fight, or do you guys go for MT?

I prefer MT myself.
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 04:32
OOC: I will be fighting someone, but I am not sure who that will be just yet. I'm going to look around for CA war threads, where not NPE nations are involved. If I find none, I will start one.

OOC: Just curious... has UFAN made a formal declaration of war against the CA? Also, is UFAN wanting to fight PMT wars like CA and NPE are fight, or do you guys go for MT?

I prefer MT myself.

We did, but the alliance has peace now that BC accepted our offer. So now it is just a few isolated UFAN members fighting the CA as opposed to the whole alliance. And I'd wait to invade someone. One of your fellow allies may need your help defending themselves.

UFAN is MT/PMT.
Central Prestonia
07-08-2007, 04:40
OOC: For anybody watching, I pulled out of Gens in order to honor the UFAN-CA treaty. So, no glassing me please.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 04:42
Gens is saved! w00t! Alright, this means that I don't have to send troops there. Thanks for the withdrawal. :cool:
Aurum Domus
07-08-2007, 04:43
OOC: Me too because I don't feel like dealing with Leafanistan, you guys might want to watch it though. He seems hell bent on taking over Gens Romae.
Emperor Nero
07-08-2007, 04:50
We did, but the alliance has peace now that BC accepted our offer. So now it is just a few isolated UFAN members fighting the CA as opposed to the whole alliance. And I'd wait to invade someone. One of your fellow allies may need your help defending themselves.

UFAN is MT/PMT.

You got a link to that agreement? Imperial lawyers must examine it for loopholes.
Undershi
07-08-2007, 04:53
Well, the Undershi military has just turned around its transports - there's not going to be an invasion of Kampfers. We still intend to sink its navy, though...

As for a peace agreement - this one sucks. I agree, it's worse than f-ing Versailles, and look what that led to...

I can't speak for anyone else, but Undershi will fight on until much better terms are offered... or we've been invaded and utterly crushed, which seems unlikely since Undershi itself is extremely well defended.

However, we are not crazy - at this point we would welcome peace with all our enemies on reasonable terms.

Heck, we might even let Kampfers keep his fleet if a fair offer is made soon enough.
Fordreich
07-08-2007, 13:01
Can someone either telegram me the link to the peace treaty or put a link here? I would like to take a look at it.
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 13:19
So, where am I needed now, since I have a 300-something ship fleet out.
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 14:44
If you feel up to it, i'm up an invasion without a navy here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534889).
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 15:07
If you feel up to it, i'm up an invasion without a navy here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534889).

Sure, but, uh, you post first.

With combined strength, and more planes, I don't think it'll be hard.
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 15:12
Just did, sorry.
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 15:17
Just did, sorry.

No prob.
Fordreich
07-08-2007, 18:45
BC, you need help? It looks like your being ganges on by many of the NPE ppl.
Leocardia
07-08-2007, 18:53
BC check tgs.
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 19:01
you guys are never gonna believe this. Im posting this using an iPhone in the Mac store!! I must say it is pretty fricking amazing. If i had a couple hundred spare bucks I would buy one myself.

This is so cool!!
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 19:04
you guys are never gonna believe this. Im posting this using an iPhone in the Mac store!! I must say it is pretty fricking amazing. If i had a couple hundred spare bucks I would buy one myself.

This is so cool!!

:D I love my iphone...
The PeoplesFreedom
07-08-2007, 19:18
Iphones are overrated.
Leocardia
07-08-2007, 19:21
Iphones are overrated.

I know. Stupid Apples.
Fordreich
07-08-2007, 19:23
iPhones are friggin overprices. The parts for the iPhone is made by Samsung(my proud Korean company :p), and it is overall only $67 USD. In the Korean Newspaper, it had an article about it, how "Samsung laughs at the iPhone's price". I would not buy an iPhone if i were you. The features and all are great, but its only supposed to be worth around 70 bucks? Hell im not paying 600 for it
Leocardia
07-08-2007, 19:25
iPhones are friggin overprices. The parts for the iPhone is made by Samsung(my proud Korean company :p), and it is overall only $67 USD. In the Korean Newspaper, it had an article about it, how "Samsung laughs at the iPhone's price". I would not buy an iPhone if i were you. The features and all are great, but its only supposed to be worth around 70 bucks? Hell im not paying 600 for it

But they are assembled in China. Add extra $12.
Fordreich
07-08-2007, 19:27
rofl....If thats a joke, nice one, and if thats real, then what the hell lol. Thats still what, 79 bucks, or 80 bucks!!! Steve Jobs:epic ph41l
Leocardia
07-08-2007, 19:30
rofl....If thats a joke, nice one, and if thats real, then what the hell lol. Thats still what, 79 bucks, or 80 bucks!!! Steve Jobs:epic ph41l

No it's not. All Apple products are assembled in China.
Specifically speaking the iPod.

Don't know about the iPhone, but I'm positive.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 19:57
I know. Stupid Apples.

An Apple a day keeps you so very gay :P

Window User 4 life!
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 20:25
Hey, don't get me wrong, it's the first apple product i've ever used, and i'm not the kind of person to invest in such new technology, especially for that price. I'd rather buy a new computer.

But i'll be damned if I wasn't impressed by its smoothness.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 20:28
Apple stuff iz 4 teh weak...:D

Microsoft pwns teh Apples
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 21:07
Apple stuff iz 4 teh weak...:D

Microsoft pwns teh Apples

Spamity calamity.

But, while I'm at it, you're all (a)wrong, (b)under the control of Bill Gates and (c)brainwashed.
The PeoplesFreedom
07-08-2007, 21:09
I disagree.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 21:29
Spamity calamity.

But, while I'm at it, you're all (a)wrong, (b)under the control of Bill Gates and (c)brainwashed.

Bill Gates will whoop your @$$. BTW, CA d00ds get online or something.
Hurtful Thoughts
07-08-2007, 22:09
What about Linux/Firefox?
(from which Microsoft and Mac stole half their ideas)

Kinda like Mac being all 3rd party underdog (so not many virii exist)
Has its own stable support network (Dude! Dell!)
And doesn't have built in obselecence/additional registration issues of Microsoft
----
Except, being the hypocrie I am, I'm not switching to linux till after my existing OS dies.
-----
Ok, done with my POV. Now to the questions:
Who is NPE?
Who is UFAN?
The World Soviet Party
07-08-2007, 22:14
NPE - New Prussian Empire (Lead by Wanderjar)
UFAN - Union Alliance Thingy Peace Thingamajiger (Kampfers, Vetaka, Wagdog and some other d00ds)
Central Prestonia
07-08-2007, 22:21
UFAN-United Federation of Allied Nations (led officially by Wagdog and Vetaka, Kampfers has some influence.)
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 22:30
NPE - New Prussian Empire (Lead by Wanderjar)
UFAN - Union Alliance Thingy Peace Thingamajiger (Kampfers, Vetaka, Wagdog and some other d00ds)

Better fix this.

NPE - New Prussian Empire (1. Wanderjar and TPF, 2. Gataway, 3. Binaria and Me)
UFAN- United Federation of Allied Nations (pro human rights) (1. Wagdog and Vetaka. 2. me.)

How do I sucked up and gained power? :P
Hurtful Thoughts
07-08-2007, 22:37
Because you have the biggest mouth on the CA forum?
2,700 posts on a 2007 nation vs 2,900 on an 2005 nation...

Your post rate is best described as 'frentic'.
Total Posts: 2,793 (19.29 posts per day)
vs
Total Posts: 2,890 (4.15 posts per day) 3,785 (8.88 posts per day)Total Posts: 2,967 (6.74 posts per day)

You post more than the three of us combined...
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 22:41
Because you have the biggest mouth on the CA forum?
2,700 posts on a 2007 nation vs 2,900 on an 2005 nation...

XD lol

People these days just keep getting more and more posts...It's crazy.


On topic, Nero where/when will you attack, that is if you attack.

I have 6.7 something posts per day. w00t!


EDIT:

Look at this guy: March '07

Total Posts: 3,000 (23.25 posts per day)
Find all posts by Calizorinstan
Find all threads started by Calizorinstan
Leocardia
07-08-2007, 22:53
I barely even post. What the heck is wrong with you guys?

Its like you guys have nothing better to do.
Kampfers
07-08-2007, 22:54
Because you have the biggest mouth on the CA forum?
2,700 posts on a 2007 nation vs 2,900 on an 2005 nation...

Your post rate is best described as 'frentic'.

vs


You post more than the three of us combined...

XD. Nice... I post OOCly a lot. And I got a lot of posts like this.

AB has a TG.

When ESS was around, many members racked up tons of posts. ^^

And I also post OOCly a lot becuase it's hard to write a good long IC post on your iPhone. :D
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 23:01
Bill Gates will whoop your @$$. BTW, CA d00ds get online or something.

I'll beat him over the head with an Apple keyboard.

I disagree.

Corporate Micro$oft stooge. :P

I kid, of course.

Linux is nest. Got Ubuntu on the upstairs compy.
Toopoxia
07-08-2007, 23:14
Conversation between me and my brother...

Me: Dude, in the future it'll be like Google and Windows who own the world.
Brother: What about Macs?
Me: ....
Brother: ....
Together: Hahahahahaha!!!!!
Akimonad
07-08-2007, 23:25
Conversation between me and my brother...

Me: Dude, in the future it'll be like Google and Windows who own the world.
Brother: What about Macs?
Me: ....
Brother: ....
Together: Hahahahahaha!!!!!

/me frowns disapprovingly.
Deserted Territories
07-08-2007, 23:35
Conversation between me and my brother...

Me: Dude, in the future it'll be like Google and Windows who own the world.
Brother: What about Macs?
Me: ....
Brother: ....
Together: Hahahahahaha!!!!!

*Laughs*

/me frowns disapprovingly.

*Stops*
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 23:37
/me smiling approvingly.

>_<

Fixed
Fordreich
08-08-2007, 01:47
Conversation between me and my brother...

Me: Dude, in the future it'll be like Google and Windows who own the world.
Brother: What about Macs?
Me: ....
Brother: ....
Together: Hahahahahaha!!!!!

that WAS funny xD But you forgot some other big conetnders, like Sony and Samsung.
Leafanistan
08-08-2007, 02:34
I barely even post. What the heck is wrong with you guys?

Its like you guys have nothing better to do.

You all have AIM/IRC/MSN, go talk there, stop spamming the thread.

Also guys, the Glorious Republic is invading Gens Romae, you guys might want to help.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534788
Undershi
08-08-2007, 04:06
Alright, my fleet is getting stuck in with the NPE... I'm thinking cassualties are going to be horrific, but that's really okay - it'll give me an excuse to switch over from a carrier-based fleet to a submarine-based fleet. (I think that when this war is done I'll make the transition, at least mostly - carriers are so vulnerable to modern weaponry that it's a little sad - it looks like they could be the new battleships, and not in a good way...)
Fordreich
08-08-2007, 04:11
You all have AIM/IRC/MSN, go talk there, stop spamming the thread.

Also guys, the Glorious Republic is invading Gens Romae, you guys might want to help.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534788

Not invading, more like just claiming Gens Romae as a colony.
The PeoplesFreedom
08-08-2007, 04:12
Alright, my fleet is getting stuck in with the NPE... I'm thinking cassualties are going to be horrific, but that's really okay - it'll give me an excuse to switch over from a carrier-based fleet to a submarine-based fleet. (I think that when this war is done I'll make the transition, at least mostly - carriers are so vulnerable to modern weaponry that it's a little sad - it looks like they could be the new battleships, and not in a good way...)

Not when you protect them properly.
Maldorians
08-08-2007, 04:14
Not when you protect them properly.

He kinda got flankz0red
Gens Romae
08-08-2007, 04:17
Not invading, more like just claiming Gens Romae as a colony.

He fired missiles, you dope. Granted, he didn't fire them at anything, for I already had no surface navy, yet he nonetheless fired them!
Emperor Nero
08-08-2007, 04:38
Alright, my fleet is getting stuck in with the NPE... I'm thinking cassualties are going to be horrific, but that's really okay - it'll give me an excuse to switch over from a carrier-based fleet to a submarine-based fleet. (I think that when this war is done I'll make the transition, at least mostly - carriers are so vulnerable to modern weaponry that it's a little sad - it looks like they could be the new battleships, and not in a good way...)

Surface vessels are definitely becoming less and less useful. Truthfully, it is hard for anything to stay useful for long when completely wankish weapons are introduced around here on a daily basis. Naturally, the wankier the weapon, the more popular it is (see DMG's storefront and the Khan Anti-Ship Missile).
The PeoplesFreedom
08-08-2007, 04:39
Surface vessels are definitely becoming less and less useful. Truthfully, it is hard for anything to stay useful for long when completely wankish weapons are introduced around here on a daily basis. Naturally, the wankier the weapon, the more popular it is (see DMG's storefront and the Khan Anti-Ship Missile).

Thank God for the ignore cannon.
Undershi
08-08-2007, 04:40
Not when you protect them properly.

Well, protecting them is a problem - the Undershi fleet has got a lot of effort going into protecting its ships. It's got destroyer escorts protecting them, as well as specialized AA frigates, plus tons of counter-missiles, intensive CIWS defenses and advanced ECM. And decoy drones, and flare-equipped drones to distract IR guided missiles, and specialized hull designs to protect against electro-optically guided attacks... basically, a lot of stuff.

The problem is, even with all of that, a carrier is a massive investment, and if you're realistically RP-ing a modern naval battle, pretty much any ship involved can be sunk with one good hit from a modern anti-shipping missile. Which makes all those defenses necessary... and makes carriers seem just a bit impractical.

He kinda got flankz0red

True, but I'll still rip the enemy up pretty badly.
The PeoplesFreedom
08-08-2007, 04:41
Look at the Pacific War, when one battle, midway, ended the war for a nation, then yeah, carriers are a huge investment, but there is no better ships out there.
Undershi
08-08-2007, 04:45
Surface vessels are definitely becoming less and less useful. Truthfully, it is hard for anything to stay useful for long when completely wankish weapons are introduced around here on a daily basis. Naturally, the wankier the weapon, the more popular it is (see DMG's storefront and the Khan Anti-Ship Missile).

Exactly the point. My fleet did have 1,500 Khans launched at it, after all! Although, the Khan isn't as deadly as everyone seems to think it is, to be honest. However, the Khan and things like it do lead to it being massively harder for surface ships to survive - even with great counter-missiles, CIWS units, ECM suite, drones and God only knows what else, some missiles are going to get through, and it's actually totally reasonable to assume with modern tech that any hit with a modern missile will sink any ship it hits. Which makes expensive carriers a problem...
Kampfers
08-08-2007, 04:50
Exactly the point. My fleet did have 1,500 Khans launched at it, after all! Although, the Khan isn't as deadly as everyone seems to think it is, to be honest. However, the Khan and things like it do lead to it being massively harder for surface ships to survive - even with great counter-missiles, CIWS units, ECM suite, drones and God only knows what else, some missiles are going to get through, and it's actually totally reasonable to assume with modern tech that any hit with a modern missile will sink any ship it hits. Which makes expensive carriers a problem...

Actually, CWIS isn't going to hit a Kahn at all. You have to resort to other measures.