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Okay, I think I can manage to catch up on stuff this week.

First order of business...

Sharina chooses to cease exporting its military equipment and hardware overboard, owing to the conflicts erupting throughout the world such as the Caribbean, Middle East, and the Balkans. Sharina also does not wish its more sensitive technologies and hardware such as the B-2 bombers to be used aganist Sharina, therefore export of B-2's will not become available at any time. Some basic equipment such as rifles, trucks, and supply equipment may become available but only after the global conflicts are resolved. The more advanced equipment such as Bradley's, F-22's, F-18's, JSF's, naval assets, M1A1 Abrams tanks, B-52 bombers, and so forth are reserved for FOAM members and even at that it's on a case by case basis.

Second order of business...

I'm going to try to finish the politicking thing in Illionis and Wisconsin this week. I assume TGSR has added Minnesota and Iowa to my list of claims, but if not, please do so (in addition to Illionis and Wisconsin).

Third order of business...

I'm going to finally try to figure out my military stuff after I annex the last of the territory (Illionis and Wisconsin). I'm using mu military from when I posted them way back in 2005 when Norleans was still around.

What about my order I made around three Earth V years ago, Sharina?

Okay, I think I can manage to catch up on stuff this week.

First order of business...

Sharina chooses to cease exporting its military equipment and hardware overboard, owing to the conflicts erupting throughout the world such as the Caribbean, Middle East, and the Balkans. Sharina also does not wish its more sensitive technologies and hardware such as the B-2 bombers to be used aganist Sharina, therefore export of B-2's will not become available at any time. Some basic equipment such as rifles, trucks, and supply equipment may become available but only after the global conflicts are resolved. The more advanced equipment such as Bradley's, F-22's, F-18's, JSF's, naval assets, M1A1 Abrams tanks, B-52 bombers, and so forth are reserved for FOAM members and even at that it's on a case by case basis.

Second order of business...

I'm going to try to finish the politicking thing in Illionis and Wisconsin this week. I assume TGSR has added Minnesota and Iowa to my list of claims, but if not, please do so (in addition to Illionis and Wisconsin).

Third order of business...

I'm going to finally try to figure out my military stuff after I annex the last of the territory (Illionis and Wisconsin). I'm using mu military from when I posted them way back in 2005 when Norleans was still around.



Ya seriously. What about the order I placed three weeks ago. You better confirm that. becasue I ordered that along time ago. Way before you decided this.

Every nation that is unclaimed is just like RL nations. Of course they have a government, a military etc. And Pakistan has Nukes :eek:

Nooooooo, They are in anarchy. Theres no govorment.

Hey, I just posted my Military, I was wondering if someone could take a look and make sure everything's okay. It's really, really small, primarily due to the size and population of Estonia. Means I can't have lots of troops, or even Elite ones. But I'll make do until I invade somewhere like Lithuania to get my pop and budget up.

Looks fine to me. But then again, I am new to this to.

Orders made 3 weeks ago are approved, but no sales of B-2's, F-18 and F-22, M1A1 Abrams, or aircraft carriers (as the carriers take years to complete, usually 3 to 5 years to build). Those carriers that were ordered would still be built but instead of selling it to foreign nations, those carriers would be added to Sharina's Navy instead.

Orders made 3 weeks ago are approved, but no sales of B-2's, F-18 and F-22, M1A1 Abrams, or aircraft carriers (as the carriers take years to complete, usually 3 to 5 years to build). Those carriers that were ordered would still be built but instead of selling it to foreign nations, those carriers would be added to Sharina's Navy instead.

You suck.

hey , im doin my final year in school now, lots of exams . so im nto allowed on the pc, emm so feel free to let others claim ireland and the north , i might be bak in a long while :rolleyes:

You suck.

I'm playing it IC'ly. For example, you wouldn't want your own equipment and hardware to be used aganist you, would you? This problem is excaberated with all the ongoing conflicts in Europe, Middle East, Caribbean (my doorstep), and Asia.

Sistan seems to think he owns the Middle East. Just by being Islamic makes his army invincible or something...

Sistan seems to think he owns the Middle East. Just by being Islamic makes his army invincible or something...

Lol ya. He says I godmod.

I'm playing it IC'ly. For example, you wouldn't want your own equipment and hardware to be used aganist you, would you? This problem is excaberated with all the ongoing conflicts in Europe, Middle East, Caribbean (my doorstep), and Asia.

I understand that. But I ordered those carriers along time ago. And I need them

I wonder if he's crazy or something because it's going to take alot more then 60,000 Troops to subjugate even Azerbaijan. With some slightly modern equipment and more man-power I think I have the advantage in the Caucasus Region, but knowing him it will be all but null.

I wonder if he's crazy or something because it's going to take alot more then 60,000 Troops to subjugate even Azerbaijan. With some slightly modern equipment and more man-power I think I have the advantage in the Caucasus Region, but knowing him it will be all but null.

Ya Sistin thinks hes invincible.

I was wondering if it would be possible for me to join? I've been on NS for a very long time and, should examples of past RPs be needed, I can provide them.

Should I be accepted, I would like to claim the nations of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan if those nations remain open at this time. Should I only be able to claim three of those, remove Tajikistan from the list.

If there are any problems with how I've applied, don't hesitate to bash me over the head with them- I'll re-submit if necessary. :)

I was wondering if it would be possible for me to join? I've been on NS for a very long time and, should examples of past RPs be needed, I can provide them.

Should I be accepted, I would like to claim the nations of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan if those nations remain open at this time. Should I only be able to claim three of those, remove Tajikistan from the list.

If there are any problems with how I've applied, don't hesitate to bash me over the head with them- I'll re-submit if necessary. :)

Ya. I've Seen this guys Rps. He's good. He has my endorcement.

From what I've seen of him, he is quite good. Also, I am intrigued to see how he will RP the Central Asian Countries he gets.

I can understand what DP said, but the fact is that carriers aren't built in just 1 year. It takes 3 to 5 years to build.

And with DP expanding right on my doorstep in the Caribbean, it should be logical to give Sharina a pause before selling those carriers to the nation that is aggessively expanding right in front of Sharina (Caribbean and Suriname, Guyana, etc).

So after witnessing DP's aggressive expansion, Sharina is less than happy to sell those carriers because for all Sharina knows IC'ly, DP could go after Sharina's holdings like Cuba, Jamaica, Galpagos Islands, etc.

I support Samtonia's entry into Earth V. I remember him from NATO waaaaay back in 2004. Kickass player.

Wow. Thanks for all compliments and such from other players. I appreciate the ego booster. :) Consider it coming right back at you all- I chose to apply for Earth V based on the quality of people and RPs in it. Which, needless to say, appears to be quite high.

Are there any rules I need to know that are not contained on this thread's first post? Military rules, economic development- anything of that nature? Just want to know so I don't drown after jumping in.

EDIT- Also, what year are we considered to be in? Wondering, because of the rules for passage of time in the first post.

Also.

Are there any countries that sell alot.. I mean.. alot of military equipment.. naval.. armor... air force.. infantry stuff? My IC pockets are bulging with cash, I got a 10 trillion buck budget for military. I need to spend it, and I need to upgrade my military veeeery badly.

It's still 2006. Time flows like in NS so one day is like 20 or so days. Even when a new year should happen it stays 2006.

Are there any rules I need to know that are not contained on this thread's first post? Military rules, economic development- anything of that nature? Just want to know so I don't drown after jumping in.

Welcome Samtonia, great to have you in Earth-V!

Here's a small FAQ for new players in Earth-V. I don't know if it answers your questions, but maybe you would find something useful here:

FAQ for Earth V

Q: How big is my population?
A: It depends on what countries you have. Look at the CIA world fact book entries and add them together. In Earth-V we're using RL-based population.


Q: How big is my defense budget?
A: Look at your nation on nseconomy (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php), and follow these steps:
1) Divide your RL-population with your NS-population (i.e.: 32,000,000 / 540,000,000). The result is your ratio (in this example: 0.059).
2) Multiply your NS-defense budget with your ratio from step 1. I.e.: 3,508,281 million * 0.059 = 206,988 million. This is your defense budget in Earth V.


Q: How big is my army?
A: You're allowed to have 2% of your population active in the military. If you're in a war you can have an additional 3% (reserves) which makes 5% total. If you're playing a nation with war as "tradition" (think Korea) you can have 10% of your population.


Q: How good is my military
A: To see the quality of your military troops, you first have to divide your defense-budget in half (one half for logistics and to buy new stuff for, and the other half goes for the troops). Then you have to decide how much of your military should be troops and logistics, maybe 60-75% logistics? Calculate how many troops you have, and divide the budget for troops with this amount. About $200,000 dollars per troop is considered very elite.


Q: Can I use whatever I want for my army?
A: No, you're limited to start with the equipment your nation's has in RL – or if you don't know anything about that, estimate the equipment. You can also buy equipment from other nations IN EARTH-V ONLY. You can also RP a research & development of a new product, but it must be in reasonable limits. Everything that exists in RL today, or could exist if anybody wanted to develop such thing is allowed – under the circumstance that you have the capacity to produce the things.
Look at i.e. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org) to get an idea of what stuff your nation uses. You can also look at Globalsecurity (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/index.html) if your nation is listed there.
You don't need to buy military equipment to start with. You're having all the stuff that your nations have in RL already.


Q: Can I invade another nation?
A: Yes, of course. But you MUST post your military stats in the military stats thread first. That's mandatory, otherwise you haven't got anything to invade with...


Q: Who's the boss?
A: The Great Sixth Reich (short form: TG6R) is the founder of Earth-V. He's the main boss.
Sharina is the second moderator in Earth-V.


Q: Do I have to move to a specific Earth-V region?
A: No, as there are no specific Earth-V regions you can stay in your region.


Another simpel example of calculation the defense-budget:
Let's say you have 1,000,000,000 NS-pop, and 100,000,000 RL-pop, let's also say that your NS-defense budget is 3,000,000 million USD.

1) Calculate the "budget-factor", take RL-population and divide it with your NS-population: 100,000,000 / 1,000,000,000 = 0.1. Your budget-factor is 0.1.

2) Take you defense-budget from thirdgeek and multiply it with your budget-factor. In this case: 3,000,000 million * 0.1 = 300,000 million. Your Earth-V defense-budget is 300,000 million (or 300 billion, or 0.3 trillion, or simple 3,000,000,000,000 USD).



The main OOC-thread where you makes your claim. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490215)

The map-thread. Do NOT make your claim here... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493109)

The main IC-thread where the RP takes place, or where links to RP's are posted. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492522)


FAQ-author: The Kingdom of Kopparbergs.

I was wondering if it would be possible for me to join? I've been on NS for a very long time and, should examples of past RPs be needed, I can provide them.

Should I be accepted, I would like to claim the nations of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan if those nations remain open at this time. Should I only be able to claim three of those, remove Tajikistan from the list.

If there are any problems with how I've applied, don't hesitate to bash me over the head with them- I'll re-submit if necessary. :)


Seeing as Sharina endorses your acceptance, I'll update the map. Be sure to read Kopparbergs post and ask him for details about how to RP your nation's stats . But for me, if you can get one running, have a factbook thread so I can put it on the map thread [along with all the others that are present].

Otherwise, have a great time!

I can understand what DP said, but the fact is that carriers aren't built in just 1 year. It takes 3 to 5 years to build.

And with DP expanding right on my doorstep in the Caribbean, it should be logical to give Sharina a pause before selling those carriers to the nation that is aggessively expanding right in front of Sharina (Caribbean and Suriname, Guyana, etc).

So after witnessing DP's aggressive expansion, Sharina is less than happy to sell those carriers because for all Sharina knows IC'ly, DP could go after Sharina's holdings like Cuba, Jamaica, Galpagos Islands, etc.

Just a note to all people making transactions - [B]you're buying from a store that reserves the right not to sell you any items if selling the items would pose a conflict of interests by that store. Just because you post a beautifully embellished order for weapons or whatever doesn't mean that the other guy must accept your order. And I think it's been said before - keep orders in the IC thread at the least, preferrably in the military storefront that hosts the weapons and equipment for sale [like Kopparbergs SIBAT]. And if you haven't already, Sharina, could you please get up a storefront for the people of this world? Not disrespect, but this stuff is really cluttering the ooc thread, and I'd imagine that it would be easier to manage your orders as well.


And for convenience, the map thread will soon be converting one of its posts ["updated" sort of stuff] into a military storefront access post, so people can do their diplomacy and go to grocery store from the same place. Those with storefronts, please post them in the map thread, so I can add them to the thread.

Also.

Are there any countries that sell alot.. I mean.. alot of military equipment.. naval.. armor... air force.. infantry stuff? My IC pockets are bulging with cash, I got a 10 trillion buck budget for military. I need to spend it, and I need to upgrade my military veeeery badly.
TG6R is currently open to all orders.

Have some sort of a link to a storefront I could take a gander at?

Have some sort of a link to a storefront I could take a gander at?
Look around at RL German, Polish, Danish, Czech, Swiss, and Norwegian equipment.

I can understand what DP said, but the fact is that carriers aren't built in just 1 year. It takes 3 to 5 years to build.

And with DP expanding right on my doorstep in the Caribbean, it should be logical to give Sharina a pause before selling those carriers to the nation that is aggessively expanding right in front of Sharina (Caribbean and Suriname, Guyana, etc).

So after witnessing DP's aggressive expansion, Sharina is less than happy to sell those carriers because for all Sharina knows IC'ly, DP could go after Sharina's holdings like Cuba, Jamaica, Galpagos Islands, etc.

Ya Im going to go after a nation way bigger than me...... Anyways I ordered those carriers at least 3 or 4 NS ears ago. Im not joking

TG6R is currently open to all orders.

That's nice to hear. Where should orders be placed?

Also.

Are there any countries that sell alot.. I mean.. alot of military equipment.. naval.. armor... air force.. infantry stuff? My IC pockets are bulging with cash, I got a 10 trillion buck budget for military. I need to spend it, and I need to upgrade my military veeeery badly.

I'm selling military stuff, look at israeli-weapons.com (http://www.israeli-weapons.com) to get at hint of what I have. I'm also having a thread where the business is done IC, SIBAT Defense exports (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495178) (note that I don't have much equipment in the thread yet, but that's because I haven't had the time to add all stuff).

In RL, Israel and India are cooperating with some defense stuff, google at "israel india". It would be fun to make some arrangements here in Earth-V too.

Well I have my infantry based weapons and Main battle tank chosen.. still need a formidable naval presense and aircraft... Koop's aircraft don't compare to the Mig's I already have, and Germany doesn't have anything of the sort that they manufacture that can surpass the Mig 29.... Nothing from anyone on the naval front.

Well I have my infantry based weapons and Main battle tank chosen.. still need a formidable naval presense and aircraft... Kopp's aircraft don't compare to the Mig's I already have, and Germany doesn't have anything of the sort that they manufacture that can surpass the Mig 29.... Nothing from anyone on the naval front.

Koop Put naval stuff in your store front.

Romeo Check your TGs.

Koop Put naval stuff in your store front.

Romeo Check your TGs.

Dweladelfia Prime will you please take a look at our alliance thread because UE posted names for the Alliance on there that he would like use to vote on. And please if you can get a hold of me on MSN please and thank you.

Koop

Dweladelfia Prime would liek to order: 5 OFEQ 5, 5 AMOS 2, and 5 Saar 5s.

Dweladelfia Prime will you please take a look at our alliance thread because UE posted names for the Alliance on there that he would like use to vote on. And please if you can get a hold of me on MSN please and thank you.

K, I've been having troubles with jolt latley. Sry.

K, I've been having troubles with jolt latley. Sry.

Ok and that is ok.

Nope.

As far as I recall, 1 RL week = 1 NS year. You placed your orders last week I believe, which means it only has been 1 year since you placed them. Also, I don't recongize 1 RL day = 1 NS year timescale anymore because its so unrealistic, given that people don't RP at such a break-neck speed everyday in Earth V.

For example, I RP my troops mobilizing at Point A before I go to work in the morning at 8 AM. Then I come home in the afternoon then check RP's in the evening at like 9 PM and I find out that my troop mobilizations have been surrounded and destroyed as a "year" has passed by. Bullshit in my opinion.

1 RL week = 1 NS year is a much more reasonable timescale, and gives people time to respond to RP's instead of having the uber-active RP'ers end up destroying everything of their enemies who don't RP that much solely through the time-scale and everything.

Is there any countries available?

Nope.

As far as I recall, 1 RL week = 1 NS year. You placed your orders last week I believe, which means it only has been 1 year since you placed them. Also, I don't recongize 1 RL day = 1 NS year timescale anymore because its so unrealistic, given that people don't RP at such a break-neck speed everyday in Earth V.

For example, I RP my troops mobilizing at Point A before I go to work in the morning at 8 AM. Then I come home in the afternoon then check RP's in the evening at like 9 PM and I find out that my troop mobilizations have been surrounded and destroyed as a "year" has passed by. Bullshit in my opinion.

1 RL week = 1 NS year is a much more reasonable timescale, and gives people time to respond to RP's instead of having the uber-active RP'ers end up destroying everything of their enemies who don't RP that much solely through the time-scale and everything.


Dude I placed those orders weeks ago I know. It took you 3 weeks. I know Im not joking. I didnt do it last week.

Well I have my infantry based weapons and Main battle tank chosen.. still need a formidable naval presense and aircraft... Koop's aircraft don't compare to the Mig's I already have, and Germany doesn't have anything of the sort that they manufacture that can surpass the Mig 29.... Nothing from anyone on the naval front.
Feel free to send an order to us in the IC thread for Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, Fregatte Klasse F125 (http://www.marine.de/01DB070000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W26MQA24395INFODE), Sachsen Class (F124) Air Defense Frigates, Fridtjof Nansen Class Anti-Submarine Warfare Frigates, or Skjold class patrol boats. But best of all is the G36 assault rifle and Leopard 2 main battle tank.

Wow, I would like alot of those Leopards... Euro fighter doesn't seem that great compared to the Mig's, but I'll buy a few because it's all I can do.

And can you explain a bit about the F125, and the patrol boat? I can't read german, heh.

Best links I could find at the moment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F125_class_frigate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skjold_class

Oklahoma

Wow, I would like alot of those Leopards... Euro fighter doesn't seem that great compared to the Mig's, but I'll buy a few because it's all I can do.

And can you explain a bit about the F125, and the patrol boat? I can't read german, heh.

The EuroFighter doesn't seem that great because you haven't done enough research on it. The EuroFighter is much better.

Here, you can compare the two for yourself.
1. EuroFighter (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ef2000/)
2. Mig 29 (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/)

The Leopard is indeed a good tank. Its the Main Battle Tank in service with the Royal Forces. Heres some more information on it- (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leopard/)
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Best links I could find at the moment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F125_class_frigate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skjold_class

Here are some better ones.

Nansen Class Anti-Submarine Warfare Frigates (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/nansen/)
Sachsen Class (F124) (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/f124/)- which is what the F125 will be based on. Atleast systems wise.
Skjold Class (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/skjold/)

Is there any countries available?

Take a look here, there are still a lot of nations that open and free - some of them will require an RP history, because someone used to own them, but TG6R will be glad to let you know which ones those are.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493109

Oklahoma

That's a claim I believe... so... Since it is what it is, I think TG6R wouldn't mind it if you joined.

But for the both of you, since you don't have much RP experience to show, just be sure to read the FAQs post by Kopparbergs and try to be as active as possible. Keep it real too. Otherwise, have fun.

Map updated...

And just a curious question - could everyone look at my D/N thread [those whom I have contacted] and please tell me if I've gotten your diplomacy updated? It's been so long since I've updated it, so I know I'm missing someone. The diplomacy post is right here for your convenience. If you're not on the list, or it's not updated, please let me know in some fashion [preferably on the D/N thread, but quoting this here will be just as fine].

Thanks!

I promised myself, so here it is...

You don't get it. The governments are surrendering and ordering the military and civilians to obey the Sistani forces. Even then, I'm not even stopping within the nations in question. It's basicly an "Officials will be with you shortly, wait here and don't make me turn this car around" kind of situation.

You either know very little about militay occupation or you're very stupid. If any country invades a country and just leaves them behind, you're opening yourself to big logistical and strategic nightmares. It is militarily unsound if you're invading a country and you simply "bypass" the countries to attack another country. You're trusting that the target countries are going to be completely complacent [Syria might...], but almost no nation trusts that anymore. The Germans in WWII made similar mistakes, but they followed up their main thrusts with SS units - which were military units. If you leave everything behind to attack another country, you're leaving everything to a gamble.

Besides, people in Iraq and Afghanistan don't even like the US in the first place. We have a Jesus fanboy 6,000 miles away in the White House runing around supporting Israel and launching a pair of Crusades. Of course they'd resist. On the other hand, I'm not a foreign power occupying the nations, I'm a local power annexing them and bringing them into my much more economically powerful and free society.

I can see that you're either Muslim or vehemently anti-American [or likely both]. In which case, I'd like to know where you get your news.

And secondly, you're not just "a local power annexing them and bringing them into [your] much more economically powerful and free society"; you invaded them - very very stupid if you want to make them your friends. Besides that, after endorsing the Arms of Allah movement and officially absorbing extremists into your country, I'm not certain many mainstream Muslims would want to follow you anyway, let alone any other reasonably minded nation in the world - Western or otherwise.

Ever hear of rules of engagement?

Yes, I have. I doubt that you have however, because your posts don't clearly evidence that fact.

He hadn't updated since before his nation was established. You have.

Actually, I've only updated with RL stats. I haven't updated them per se, regarding my reforms and new advances inn my military organization and supply.

I don't think you understand just how impotent your airforce is in Sudan when you're on the defensive and have no local airfields. The maximum range for a fighter on a patrol is usually only about 250 miles with a two hour patrol. You have no way to patrol any of the airspace of Sudan beyond that range for a significant time. The best you can hope for is an intercept mission, but by the time your aircraft get to the battle site they'll be too low on fuel to hang around and fight for long, and even then the aircraft they were sent to deal with or ground forces they were supposed to attack will most probably not be there anymore.

Okay... If you had read what I have for airforce support, you would have seen this:

[code]50 F-16C
16 Mirage 2000D
F-33 [unknown numbers but the largest number of fighters at the disposal of the Emirate - no more than 100]
C-130 Hercules [unknown numbers]
E-2 Hawkeye C [unknown numbers]
10 McDonnell Douglas AH-64 Apaches
Mil Mi-8 [unknown numbers, guessing at 10 right now]
Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk [unknown numbers, guessing at 10 right now][/quote]
original (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11547363&postcount=3)

F16 have a rather long range, as do Mirage and F33 aircraft. If I wanted to, I could send them all the way to Mogadishu, but that would be stupid and I've got other things to worry about.

OOC: For those that can't connect the dots, Asherton is sending 300,000 troops into Sudan with each army having the same amount of tanks as my armies (270 each), but with more varried hardware. Probably all T-72s in this case.

This is BS - first, he has 20,000; now he has 300,000?

I promised myself, so here it is...
You either know very little about militay occupation or you're very stupid. If any country invades a country and just leaves them behind, you're opening yourself to big logistical and strategic nightmares. It is militarily unsound if you're invading a country and you simply "bypass" the countries to attack another country. You're trusting that the target countries are going to be completely complacent [Syria might...], but almost no nation trusts that anymore. The Germans in WWII made similar mistakes, but they followed up their main thrusts with SS units - which were military units. If you leave everything behind to attack another country, you're leaving everything to a gamble.

It's called a blitzkrieg. I have other forces that will be with them shortly. The whole point is to smash through and destroy the initial resistance and then leave everything else to follow up units.


I can see that you're either Muslim or vehemently anti-American [or likely both]. In which case, I'd like to know where you get your news.

Hah.

And secondly, you're not just "a local power annexing them and bringing them into [your] much more economically powerful and free society"; you invaded them - very very stupid if you want to make them your friends. Besides that, after endorsing the Arms of Allah movement and officially absorbing extremists into your country, I'm not certain many mainstream Muslims would want to follow you anyway, let alone any other reasonably minded nation in the world - Western or otherwise.
You don't seem to be too familiar with history. Remember the Romans? Remember the way that they assymilated those they invaded into their culture? Remember the way that the Goths wanted to be part of Rome so much that they got up and moved?


Yes, I have. I doubt that you have however, because your posts don't clearly evidence that fact.
Funny, I don't recall saying anywhere that I was indescriminately slaughtering people.


Actually, I've only updated with RL stats. I haven't updated them per se, regarding my reforms and new advances inn my military organization and supply.
And yet those initial stats still included your entire nation. Suggesting that Asherton stick only to Somalia would be like suggesting that you stick with only Lybia.


Okay... If you had read what I have for airforce support, you would have seen this:

[code]50 F-16C
16 Mirage 2000D
F-33 [unknown numbers but the largest number of fighters at the disposal of the Emirate - no more than 100]
C-130 Hercules [unknown numbers]
E-2 Hawkeye C [unknown numbers]
10 McDonnell Douglas AH-64 Apaches
Mil Mi-8 [unknown numbers, guessing at 10 right now]
Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk [unknown numbers, guessing at 10 right now]
original (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11547363&postcount=3)

F16 have a rather long range, as do Mirage and F33 aircraft. If I wanted to, I could send them all the way to Mogadishu, but that would be stupid and I've got other things to worry about.[/quote]
It would seem that you know nothing about aircraft, let alone air-combat. Protip: If you're flying to Mogadishu, you only have the option to land, since the only way you're getting that kind of range is by loading up with nothing but fuel and making it a one way trip. For combat, ranges are far, far less, especially if you plan on spending any time over the target or engaged with enemy forces. If you're patroling airspace, you're generally not going further than 250 miles from base.


This is BS - first, he has 20,000; now he has 300,000?
No, BS is expecting him to use only his stats from back when he first started his campaign as Somalia after having a ton of foreign aid, conquering three nations, and having months of IC time to develop.

Oklahoma
Go ahead, assuming you'll be active.

Might be alittle hard military wise and other stuff.

Hey would I be able to invade Lithuania? I see no one's claimed it, and it's near Estonia, with a similar size military. If it's not okay I understand.

Rethan;11625197']Hey would I be able to invade Lithuania? I see no one's claimed it, and it's near Estonia, with a similar size military. If it's not okay I understand.
Yes, you can - as long as you can solve the problem with TG6R controlling Latvia in the middle of these two countries, but that's more of a IC-problem. But I think you can manage it somehow.

Yes, you can - as long as you can solve the problem with TG6R controlling Latvia in the middle of these two countries, but that's more of a IC-problem. But I think you can manage it somehow.

Yeah I was going to create the topic and then Post a message to TGSR in the International Thread.

Yes, you can - as long as you can solve the problem with TG6R controlling Latvia in the middle of these two countries, but that's more of a IC-problem. But I think you can manage it somehow.

Can you confirm my order please?

Can you confirm my order please?
I'm sorry, I was sure I already had answered...

I prefer if you can make an order IC, preferable in my SIBAT-thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495178).

I am guessing the dude that wants Olkahoma isn't gonna get it?
Hmmm since expansion is kinda hard for my nation I was wondering could it be possible if I could stage a coup in a unclaimed territory, say Cyprus and then have there goverment affliate themselves with mine, and the roll from there?

I am guessing the dude that wants Olkahoma isn't gonna get it?
Hmmm since expansion is kinda hard for my nation I was wondering could it be possible if I could stage a coup in a unclaimed territory, say Cyprus and then have there goverment affliate themselves with mine, and the roll from there?

You could invade Russia.

Chechnya, and a few southern Republics Maybe. But not the whole of Russia itself.

Chechnya, and a few southern Republics Maybe. But not the whole of Russia itself.

Not with that attitude.

I am so gonna conquer Russia with my 15.4 Million Population...

Not with that attitude.

Its called pragatism and realistic. You think a tiny nation could conquer the world's largest land-based nation? It'd be like Cuba conquering the whole of the USA + Canada.

Its called pragatism and realistic. You think a tiny nation could conquer the world's largest land-based nation? It'd be like Cuba conquering the whole of the USA + Canada.

Counterpoint: The British Empire. Small island nation creates the world's largest empire.

I am so gonna conquer Russia with my 15.4 Million Population...
"Make a Blitzkrieg á la Sistan: storm through the country without resistance and the people of Russia will join Granate with love - and they will probably invade a couple of neighbor nations for you as well."

"Make a Blitzkrieg á la Sistan: storm through the country without resistance and the people of Russia will join Granate with love - and they will probably invade a couple of neighbor nations for you as well."

Now that I like..... if only because I am doing it to Sistan.

"Make a Blitzkrieg á la Sistan: storm through the country without resistance and the people of Russia will join Granate with love - and they will probably invade a couple of neighbor nations for you as well."
That only works when you're passing through to smite a common and longtime enemy.

You're thinking of Great Romeo.

Can you confirm my order please?

I seriously know I said no more ooc orders, along with lots of other people... that should be a rule too... TG6R?

Reminder: I'm not here. (Well, at least I am for a few seconds now...) Don't expect any replies until September 5. Sharina is in charge.

Sorry for my lack of activity guys, my timetable sucks hard. Three days from 9 till 5 and two days from 9 till 6 :eek:

Anything intersting happening?

Achtung!

The player known as Sistan has been ignored by me, indefinately until the TG's I have sent to Sharina and TGSR have been replied to by them, and they have made their decision.

My thread "Reclamation" is hereby suspended until the matter is resolved.

This is the only mention I will make of this in this thread, I will not spam it with pointless bickering.

Good day.

Thats Sistan for you. He's muslim therefore all muslims want to be with him. Kapeesh?

Thats Sistan for you. He's muslim therefore all muslims want to be with him. Kapeesh?

Yep, Again he says I godmod? lol

I'm back, greetings all.

And if you happen to be living in Oklahoma or S. Carolina - watch out (mwahahahaha)

I swear I'll start doing something other than expanding soon.

ehhhhh.... just how many people are going to declare war on Sistan?

However many it takes, atleast in my view....

The True question is who hasn't declared war on Sistan.

Me, Kopp, ALM, Azaha, Vineyard have declared war, and I believe Warta and Dweladelfia also have, but I am not sure.

The True question is who hasn't declared war on Sistan.

Me, Kopp, ALM, Azaha, Vineyard have declared war, and I believe Warta and Dweladelfia also have, but I am not sure.

Well.......... actually, the list is a longer, and Sistan and Asherton both declared war on ALM, Kopparbergs, and Arabicia. I also know that some other nations have sent troops and stuff to support our operations.

ehhhhh.... just how many people are going to declare war on Sistan?

The better question to ask is, how many people is Sistan going to declar war on. :D

Also, Alif Laam Miim I finished my RP of the Madagascar Campaign and you stated you wanted all claims/annexing of nations to be made here. So, heres the post of my annexing the following nations- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11636260&postcount=21

Nations Annexed- Madagascar, Comoros, Mayotte, Reunion, Mauritius, Seychelles and Europa Island. So when you get a chance to update the map, can you add those to my claims list. Thanks.

The True question is who hasn't declared war on Sistan.

Me, Kopp, ALM, Azaha, Vineyard have declared war, and I believe Warta and Dweladelfia also have, but I am not sure

I haven't. I guess I'm the only smart one. :D You all fight it out and I reap the rewards. As the Rules of Acquisition clearly state. #34: Peace is good for business. :D

And my nation will be making some very good profits. :D

The True question is who hasn't declared war on Sistan.

Me, Kopp, ALM, Azaha, Vineyard have declared war, and I believe Warta and Dweladelfia also have, but I am not sure.

I havnt Yet. I jsut sent a Carrier group. No war yet.

It doesn't matter. As of this point, I'm not recognising any forces outside of the Red Sea Alliance and Azaha. Since Granate has taken the Caucasus and won't RP a resistance, I have no further reason to invade it. Consider that invasion to have never happened.

Too many wars in NationStates end up as alliance dickwagging matches and/or dogpiles. This isn't going to be one of them.

It doesn't matter. As of this point, I'm not recognising any forces outside of the Red Sea Alliance and Azaha. Since Granate has taken the Caucasus and won't RP a resistance, I have no further reason to invade it. Consider that invasion to have never happened.

Too many wars in NationStates end up as alliance dickwagging matches and/or dogpiles. This isn't going to be one of them.

Shut up seriously. All you have done is god mod your way to victory. it dosnt matter if you recognise my forces for not. THeir there.

It doesn't matter. As of this point, I'm not recognising any forces outside of the Red Sea Alliance and Azaha. Since Granate has taken the Caucasus and won't RP a resistance, I have no further reason to invade it. Consider that invasion to have never happened.

Too many wars in NationStates end up as alliance dickwagging matches and/or dogpiles. This isn't going to be one of them.
You should probably read farther back into the Red Sea war Thread. I made a Resistance Post. I am currently waiting for you.

You should probably read farther back into the Red Sea war Thread. I made a Resistance Post. I am currently waiting for you.

I don't mean resisting my invasion, I mean that you were originally supposed to be nothing more than a resistance movement. IE: No military, no allies, just the underground resistance. Think occupied Paris.

I'm back. :eek:

Good. Earth V needs some moderation and it needs it yesterday- good luck in sorting through this mess.

Hello?

Did Earth V die again?

At least two of us are still alive.

Well, I'm just extremely busy with school...:(

My support for the RSa is "unofficial". And you'll have to recognize it good ol' Sistan! I've sent some aircraft waaayyyy back, and a few subs have been in the area for a while.

Hello?

Did Earth V die again?

:rolleyes: E5 didnt die. Theres other threads going on ya know....

Hello?

Did Earth V die again?
Nein.

Hello?

Did Earth V die again?

Nope, the United Netherlands will never die!

Well, I'm just extremely busy with school...:(

My support for the RSa is "unofficial". And you'll have to recognize it good ol' Sistan! I've sent some aircraft waaayyyy back, and a few subs have been in the area for a while.

I'm recognising your subs and aircraft, since they preempted the dogpiling, but I won't accept any other military actions by any but the directly involved parties. However, do keep in mind that any losses that I inflict on your deployed forces would not be a case for war, since they don't officially exist as deployed. Likewise, unless I capture some of the equipment or men, I would have no grounds to link anything to the Warta Endorian government. Should I find the hardware or men, however, expect an angry letter in the mail.

:rolleyes: E5 didnt die. Theres other threads going on ya know....

*Rolls eyes back, because that seems to be the fad.*

And none of those have been replied to in the last day, or ICly for a couple days.

II is usually much more bustling and such.

Im not dead either... contrary to popular opinion :D

It doesn't matter. As of this point, I'm not recognising any forces outside of the Red Sea Alliance and Azaha. Since Granate has taken the Caucasus and won't RP a resistance, I have no further reason to invade it. Consider that invasion to have never happened.

Too many wars in NationStates end up as alliance dickwagging matches and/or dogpiles. This isn't going to be one of them.

While I'm not a personal fan of dogpiling, you actually wrought this upon yourself. I'm not certain why some people are lending their help, but I've personally made friends with people, some of whom include the very people you are attacking/invading/making hostile comments. ICly, some nations would be very very pissed, especially with your implicit endorsement of extremist groups in Yemen, Oman, and Qatar, since by their tacit compliance, they assented to your government's proposals. In addition, I've an extensive network of friends that like me/my allies more than you, and you attacking/making hostile comments against me/my allies only gives them incentive to support me, officially or unofficially.

But please - if you guys have no reason to be involved at all, stick out. Unless someone starts to throw around nukes and stuff, but I'm seriously hoping no one icly stupid enough to think that that will work. If there is some vested and pertinent IC cause for a war with anyone, go ahead with it - after all, it's your nation.

It doesn't matter. As of this point, I'm not recognising any forces outside of the Red Sea Alliance and Azaha. Since Granate has taken the Caucasus and won't RP a resistance, I have no further reason to invade it. Consider that invasion to have never happened.

Too many wars in NationStates end up as alliance dickwagging matches and/or dogpiles. This isn't going to be one of them.
Well, then you have to RP that you withdraw your troops from there. You let troop march into that territory IC, and you cannot just pretend that never happend.

An for the "dogpiling". That's a realistic thing which happens in RL. Was Iraq ignoring all the other nations but Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in the first Gulf War (when Iraq invaded Kuwait)?

Was Germany ignoring other nations in WWII because they were dogpiling?

Was Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire ignoring every other nation in WWI because they were dogpiling?

The answer to these questions is no. You cannot select which of the other players to recognize as opponents.

It is your own fault that this is happening. If you're attacking/invading first Kuwait, then another at least twelve countries (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrein, Quatar, Oman, Yemen, Sudan, Egypt) and adding Pakistan and India to this we'll end up with fourteen countries it's no surprise that the world will react? Are you surprised?

Well, then you have to RP that you withdraw your troops from there. You let troop march into that territory IC, and you cannot just pretend that never happend.

The answer to these questions is no. You cannot select which of the other players to recognize as opponents.surprised?

Oh, but I can, and I am. You'll note that the thread is called "The Red Sea War" and not "World War III". BTW, I'm only attacking -three- nations. I've ANNEXED five others.

You'll note that the thread is called "The Red Sea War" and not "World War III". BTW, I'm only attacking -three- nations. I've ANNEXED five others.
It doesn't matter what you call the thread. It may as well be the beginning of WWIII, with your IC-behavior of annexing/invading every single neighbor.

Attacked countries:
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrein, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen

Which three of these six attacked countries are not attacked or annexed by Sistan?


Annexed countries:
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Jordan, Quatar, Oman, Pakistan

Which two of these seven countries are not annexed or attacked by Sistan?


AFAIK, you have RP'd Sistani troops entering or attacking all these thirteen countries. And THAT'S the reason of the "Dogpiling you didn't want".

If we add all players participating with the Red Sea Alliance together, we still don't come up to Thirteen, so you may ask if the dogpiling is without reason?

(In my last post I mentioned fourteen, but I've removed India as you're "only" at war with them, you haven't attacked their mainland. Yet.)

It doesn't matter what you call the thread. It may as well be the beginning of WWIII, with your IC-behavior of annexing/invading every single neighbor.

Attacked countries:
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrein, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen

Which three of these six attacked countries are not attacked or annexed by Sistan?


Annexed countries:
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Jordan, Quatar, Oman, Pakistan

Which two of these seven countries are not annexed or attacked by Sistan?


AFAIK, you have RP'd Sistani troops entering or attacking all these thirteen countries. And THAT'S the reason of the "Dogpiling you didn't want".

If we add all players participating with the Red Sea Alliance together, we still don't come up to Thirteen, so you may ask if the dogpiling is without reason?

(In my last post I mentioned fourteen, but I've removed India as you're "only" at war with them, you haven't attacked their mainland. Yet.)
No, you stupid bastard. I'm attacking Arabicia, Alif Laam Miim, and Kopparbergs. I've annexed Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Qatar, and Oman, and for the most part without much bloodshed. When I move troops into Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in the wake of my vanguard, those troops will be for the most part in engineering battalions. I've sent troops to defend Pakistan and liberate Yemen and Sudan.

And since you don't seem to be capable of reading too well, India has withdrawn from Pakistan now that it's been pointed out that Pakistan would have nuked it almost immediately upon being invaded.

No, you stupid bastard. I'm attacking Arabicia, Alif Laam Miim, and Kopparbergs. I've annexed Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Qatar, and Oman, and for the most part without much bloodshed. When I move troops into Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in the wake of my vanguard, those troops will be for the most part in engineering battalions. I've sent troops to defend Pakistan and liberate Yemen and Sudan.

And since you don't seem to be capable of reading too well, India has withdrawn from Pakistan now that it's been pointed out that Pakistan would have nuked it almost immediately upon being invaded.

IT DOSNT FREAKING MATTER YOU CANT JSUT IGNORE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT’S NOT CONVENITNET TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ATTACK YOU! BASTERD YOURSELF!

IT DOSNT FREAKING MATTER YOU CANT JSUT IGNORE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT’S NOT CONVENITNET TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ATTACK YOU! BASTERD YOURSELF!

Sure I can. I can also ignore them because they're retarded. Guess which one you qualify for.

Sure I can. I can also ignore them because they're retarded. Guess which one you qualify for.

Shutup ok you being a fucking retard. You sit here godmoding to victory then you ignore all help that comes from all other countrys. THen you call them retaded becasue you dont get you own way. So watch who you call retarded when your acting the same.

If all this personal insulting isn't grounds to get him booted from Earth V, then what is?

I'm getting tired of his childess, and I've only been here a week. Can't we just kick him and get this over with?

If all this personal insulting isn't grounds to get him booted from Earth V, then what is?

I'm getting tired of his childess, and I've only been here a week. Can't we just kick him and get this over with?

Who do you want to kick out Sistan or Dweladelfia prime? I have been here for sometime and it seems that Sistan is trying to godmode everything and not give a damn what others are trying to do. But that is my thoughts on the matter.

Sistan of course. He personally insults two people in this page of posts 2 times alone.

And for the reasons you just said, MC.

TG6R Please boot Sistan out or im serious thinking about leaving. I'm sick of his n00bishness.

Perhaps this isn’t your battle Prime? As every time Sistan has acted up you have been involved.

I also wouldn’t point the finger of GodMod, although I agree his RP's leave much to be desired, one must only look at La Vita Loca to sense your RP style parallels his.

I have already pointed out, to no avail, how the situation in the Red Sea War must be edited, being war mod that is. I would like it if everyone obeyed by that ruling as I am sure it is fair.

Furthermore I must agree that Sistan cannot ignore troops from foreign countries. But I do ask that those sending troops to RP how it will affect your economy and budget as well as your people's reaction.

No, you stupid bastard.
This is the second time you're insulting me OOC. I let the first time pass, but now you have proved what kind of person you are. Even if I had called you Towel head IC (which I don't have), you're having NO REASON to insult one OOC. That's against the rules in Nationstates.

I was looking forward to a good RP when the Red Sea war started, but you're continuing to godmoding and turning things to your favor all the time.

It is four or five days since I posted that my troops made a massive invasion of Syria and Jordan, but you haven't managed to answer to it yet. As a matter of fact, you haven't made a single IC-reply to my posts in the Red Sea War. And AFAIK you haven't RP'd a single loss for Sistan in the Red Sea War? With that attitude to RP, adding your godmod and, the main reason, your personal insults, I'm not going to RP with you now.

And I'm sorry that I forgot to mention your annexing of Lebanon. Adding that, it makes fourteen invaded countries by Sistan (again).

Your first insult, for the record.

Are you retarded?

End of Sistan story...

No, you stupid bastard.
And since you don't seem to be capable of reading too well, BASTERD YOURSELF!SI can also ignore them because they're retarded. Guess which one you qualify for.Shutup ok you being a fucking retard.

And you're both Officially Warned for flaming. Grow up, chill out, and knock it off. I mean it.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
The One-Stop Rules Shop

Perhaps this isn’t your battle Prime? As every time Sistan has acted up you have been involved.

I also wouldn’t point the finger of GodMod, although I agree his RP's leave much to be desired, one must only look at La Vita Loca to sense your RP style parallels his.

I have already pointed out, to no avail, how the situation in the Red Sea War must be edited, being war mod that is. I would like it if everyone obeyed by that ruling as I am sure it is fair.

Furthermore I must agree that Sistan cannot ignore troops from foreign countries. But I do ask that those sending troops to RP how it will affect your economy and budget as well as your people's reaction.


Im not godmoding in the first place. What rebelion would a small island in the pasific put up agaisnt an empire. And im not rping with other people he is as well as Godmoding. And it is my battle he's ignoring my troops.

And you're both Officially Warned for flaming. Grow up, chill out, and knock it off. I mean it.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
The One-Stop Rules Shop

Won't happen again.

Sorry I haven't been on lately guys. School's been kinda of hellish. My english teacher just loaded us with homework.

So what'd I miss? Sistan go berserk and Godmode again? Did someone die?

I'll look back through the pages to see whats happened.

Reminder:

As Frisbeeteria says, don't flame! Personal attacks are prohibited on Earth V, and flameing is a more serious NS offensive. ;)

Rightio Then.

Are you taking new members?

Always.

Just ask for a country, and see if The Great Sixth Riech Lets you have it.

After reading everything, I must say I'm leaning more and more towards kicking Sistan out of Earth V. He has apparently aggravated everybody and expects nations to just roll over and bow down to his invasion force with very little opposition or casaulties.

Even I RP taking substantial losses in my ancient Earth V wars, despite my economic and technological prowess compared to the fractured nations I've conquered (like Central American nations and Caribbean islands for instance).

If he was god-modding BUT not flaming or insulting others, then I believe we could help him learn and improve his RP skills. However, with such a personality and abrasive attitude like his, he might be too difficult to work with. Other respected players like Azaha and Kopparbergs have voiced their opinions and I tend to agree with them. Screaming your head off isn't exactly the best way to get yourself heard and treated with respect.

This is one reason why I haven't been RP'ing much in Earth V lately because of all this crap being thrown around, unfortunately.

Having talked to him many times on MSN, RPing with him only once, but seeing his OOC behavior to critism...

I personally, would like him gone.

I have ignored him, and many other people have as well, or are on the brink of doing it. Unfortunately, ignoring some one so close to me regionally puts me between a rock and a hard place. I would dearly like to see him ejected, mainly because of his child-like behavior, and very short fuse.

I would support some sort of pettition or consensus to get him booted. I've held my reservations long enough about him, and thought I could even get a better feel of him, and even maybe get him to lighten up over IM's. But that obviously has not worked, and will never work. I just do not want to deal with him anymore.

Not to mention, having some one in EV like that might put people off, or make them leave all together.

Thank you.

Right. I'm the one screaming. The simple fact of the matter is that I'm sending rather huge forces through nations with militaries that can be described as pathetic at best and criminally incompetent at worst. I shouldn't need to point out their performance against Israel in the numerous wars they've fought. The governments really have no choice but to capitulate to my every demand, since they've been more or less caught with their pants down. When you're alwatys looking west, you usually don't expect an invasion from the east. I suppose that Lebanon would have reason to expect another invasion from the east, but given the fact that Hezbollah, the only competent military in the nation, answers directly to Tehran, my capital, I'd say that resistance there would be token at best.

In Oman, Yemen, and Qatar, the RSA, ALM in particular, laid the groundwork for me. If you're going to connect me to a 'terrorist' organization, don't get pissed when I use that to my advantage.

It's all a moot point anyway. I'm sick of all the OOC bitching in the original thread, so I'm rewriting my post completely. Furthermore, there's a reason I'm not responding to your counterinvasion, Kopparbergs. You can't invade Syria and Jordan and Lebanon when you have to get past the forces I've got moving into Israel first. You've not responded to a single thing I've posted, so why should I respond to what you're posting?

Regardless, I'm still not accepting outside interference. When Hitler invaded Czekoslovokia, nobody interfered. When Germany invaded Poland, the only nations to interfere were the two that had signed a pact with Poland previously to defend against German aggression, France and the UK. The US didn't meddle, Norway didn't meddle, Denmark and the Netherlands didn't meddle. Only the nations directly involved declared war on Germany. Later, when France fell and Britain was all alone, still nobody got involved. It was not until after Germany invaded the USSR and Japan attacked the US that the British and Free French gained further allies. All of the nations getting involved were attacked directly. Nations just don't join random wars because they happen to not like one of the involved parties. Instead, they cut trade, send letters, and generally try to make their opinion known via non-violent pressure.

Just a random idea here...anyone up for a EV World Cup? If someone knows how to scorinate, then we can do it. :) And it'll get me in this more than the tiny bit I've done. I'd be happy to organize it, but I can't do scorinating, because I don't really know how...well I'd rather someone who has "field experience"...anyone?

Furthermore, there's a reason I'm not responding to your counterinvasion, Kopparbergs. You can't invade Syria and Jordan and Lebanon when you have to get past the forces I've got moving into Israel first. You've not responded to a single thing I've posted, so why should I respond to what you're posting?
I've responded to that, both IC and OOC.

Can you provide a link to a post made by you where you're taking casualties? Your invasion of these umpteen countries is a perfect example of godmoding. Open many, many fronts, attack every single neighbor, all nations are falling without or with very small resistance, no casualties, nations are happy that Sistan at least conquers them, the new nations immediately joins Sistan and invades other neighbors to help him.

Regardless, I'm still not accepting outside interference.
That's not up to you to decide – as long as nobody is godmoding. You cannot ignore someone due to the fact that they're not a part of your plans.


When Hitler invaded Czekoslovokia, nobody interfered.
I've already told you the reason to the "dogpiling". Invade fourteen countries, and the world will react.

It's obvious that you've made your point, and not going to change your mind.
And adding your rude OOC-attitude with multiple insults, causing the NationStates moderators to intervene in Earth-V, without a single excuse – that's a proof of your qualities.

If nothing new comes up about this, I'm done with Sistan, both IC and OOC. I'm not going to let this destroy the Earth-V.

I agree with Sharina.

After reading everything, I must say I'm leaning more and more towards kicking Sistan out of Earth V. He has apparently aggravated everybody and expects nations to just roll over and bow down to his invasion force with very little opposition or casaulties.

Even I RP taking substantial losses in my ancient Earth V wars, despite my economic and technological prowess compared to the fractured nations I've conquered (like Central American nations and Caribbean islands for instance).

If he was god-modding BUT not flaming or insulting others, then I believe we could help him learn and improve his RP skills. However, with such a personality and abrasive attitude like his, he might be too difficult to work with. Other respected players like Azaha and Kopparbergs have voiced their opinions and I tend to agree with them. Screaming your head off isn't exactly the best way to get yourself heard and treated with respect.

This is one reason why I haven't been RP'ing much in Earth V lately because of all this crap being thrown around, unfortunately.

I agree. Sorry aboput getting amd though.

I agree with Sharina, even if my voice doesn't mean as much.

Right. I'm the one screaming. The simple fact of the matter is that I'm sending rather huge forces through nations with militaries that can be described as pathetic at best and criminally incompetent at worst. I shouldn't need to point out their performance against Israel in the numerous wars they've fought. The governments really have no choice but to capitulate to my every demand, since they've been more or less caught with their pants down. When you're alwatys looking west, you usually don't expect an invasion from the east. I suppose that Lebanon would have reason to expect another invasion from the east, but given the fact that Hezbollah, the only competent military in the nation, answers directly to Tehran, my capital, I'd say that resistance there would be token at best.

In Oman, Yemen, and Qatar, the RSA, ALM in particular, laid the groundwork for me. If you're going to connect me to a 'terrorist' organization, don't get pissed when I use that to my advantage.

It's all a moot point anyway. I'm sick of all the OOC bitching in the original thread, so I'm rewriting my post completely. Furthermore, there's a reason I'm not responding to your counterinvasion, Kopparbergs. You can't invade Syria and Jordan and Lebanon when you have to get past the forces I've got moving into Israel first. You've not responded to a single thing I've posted, so why should I respond to what you're posting?

Regardless, I'm still not accepting outside interference. When Hitler invaded Czekoslovokia, nobody interfered. When Germany invaded Poland, the only nations to interfere were the two that had signed a pact with Poland previously to defend against German aggression, France and the UK. The US didn't meddle, Norway didn't meddle, Denmark and the Netherlands didn't meddle. Only the nations directly involved declared war on Germany. Later, when France fell and Britain was all alone, still nobody got involved. It was not until after Germany invaded the USSR and Japan attacked the US that the British and Free French gained further allies. All of the nations getting involved were attacked directly. Nations just don't join random wars because they happen to not like one of the involved parties. Instead, they cut trade, send letters, and generally try to make their opinion known via non-violent pressure.

Calm and controlled reply.

1 - Assuming that local resistance is no match for your forces is actually godmod - this is something that needs to be fixed soon, because I think nearly everyone has done it - moi aussi. If we're invading another territory, someone should rp resistance, to keep it somewhat realistic, because blitzkrieg everything and no one's really fighting any wars anymore.

2 - I'm not pissed oocly when you accepted being connected; it only furthers my IC case, and tangibly connected your government to terrorist-affiliated organizations.

3 - I'm still writing out my reactions, because I've realized that RL is more valuable than NS, although I'm feeling somewhat hypocritical for demanding everything "now now now!" earlier. But seriously, if something is left unresolved, don't assume that it is easily resolved in your favor, because that's godmod - unless there is an ignore order, in which case, you'd better have a very very good reason to ignore the action.

4 - As unreasonable as some of these forms of outside interference might be, these are sovereign states that dictate their own policy as they see fit. If they want war with any other nation - unless no reasonable action is taken to initiate the war's action - you can icly ignore a declaration of war. Just because no one else declared war on Germany in 1939, it does not entail that Germany could have ignored a declaration of war from Italy, Slovakia, Hungary, Sweden, Denmark, or even the USSR. There is a difference between "should" and "is". One of the things that is unfortunately included on the "is" partition is a nation's right to sovereign action - thus a declaration of war. I'm not officially oocly or icly endorsing any otherwise unrealistic declaration of war, but given the cirumstances, those that have declared war icly have declared their war, until they either oocly cancel their ic statements, or icly sue for peace.

Tutti capiscono?


Personally, I'm not ignoring any realistic IC posts made by Sistan. I'm trying to reply to them all, in as realistic a perspective as I can offer, and I find it utterly difficult to do, considering the circumstances.

And it's been said before - if you can't say anything nice, don't say it publicly. My personal jist about abrasive vulgarity is that of mediated intolerance for the person oocly, so simply cursing only gets to make everyone else upset and likely introduces more commonly uttered phrases in response. So, to echo what nearly everyone else has said, no flaming. If I've done something like that, I apologize - although I don't believe that my vulgarity has revealed itself, since I tend prefer a gentleman's approach to reproach.

NOW, everyone gather together and give big hugs!!! [no fluffles...]

Just a random idea here...anyone up for a EV World Cup? If someone knows how to scorinate, then we can do it. :) And it'll get me in this more than the tiny bit I've done. I'd be happy to organize it, but I can't do scorinating, because I don't really know how...well I'd rather someone who has "field experience"...anyone?

I'd be glad to help :p...

Regarding a World Cup: I've got experience doing scoring for stuf in the past, as well as bracketing stuff up, so I'm willing to do it for this. Of course, we'll need qualifiers and things of that nature. Also, would it be national teams like the current UK (all parts of the UK try to qualify individually, even though Wales and Scotland and such are part of the UK) or would it be total empires?

I just need to know so I can start seeding.

Earth V World Cup, eh?
I'm down.

Earth V World Cup, eh?
I'm down.

Sounds cooooll we did somthing like that in e2. Alif should know how to run it.

Dont look at me i got like 10th. lol. cept i have brazil now. lol

Sounds cool about a World Cup.

Except for the fact that I'm totally lost in the world of sports... But I'm in if I can manage it. :)

Maybe I should have a local tournament between Israel, Tunisia, Algeria, Nigeria and Niger to find out which nation is qualified for the world cup? Or send everyone? Or a mixed team with players from all my nations? Hmm...

Sounds cool about a World Cup.

Except for the fact that I'm totally lost in the world of sports... But I'm in if I can manage it. :)

Maybe I should have a local tournament between Israel, Tunisia, Algeria, Nigeria and Niger to find out which nation is qualified for the world cup? Or send everyone? Or a mixed team with players from all my nations? Hmm...

Of course leaving south america out. :(

Of course leaving south america out. :(
No, no Dweladelphia!!

That was all MY nations! I said that I maybe would have a local tournament "between Israel, Tunisia, Algeria, Nigeria and Niger" to find out which team I/Kopparbergs should send to the World Cup.

No, no Dweladelphia!!

That was all MY nations! I said that I maybe would have a local tournament "between Israel, Tunisia, Algeria, Nigeria and Niger" to find out which team I/Kopparbergs should send to the World Cup.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I get it. Sorry i'm slow.

World Cup? Sounds good, but the Southern USA isn't the most renowned footballing area of the world. Count me in nontheless :cool:

He passes it to center! Center passes it to right, right passes it to center, center passe sit to left! Left holds it, Holds it! HOLDS IT! GOOOOAAAAALLLLL!

India would be very interested, h owever... RPing sports for me is exessively difficult...

He passes it to center! Center passes it to right, right passes it to center, center passe sit to left! Left holds it, Holds it! HOLDS IT! GOOOOAAAAALLLLL!

India would be very interested, h owever... RPing sports for me is exessively difficult...

You dont rp. The person in charge jsut picks random numbers for your score.

Ah, nevermind then.

Important notice

In Vineyard's military declaration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11592803&postcount=26), he lists the equipment types and number of soldiers, but does not list the required declaration of the number of each type of equipment. As Vineyard himself menions in his declaration, "**WIll Draw up the Spcifics as to size of my armies, and how many of each I will have. Will be Updated later**." Until that time, Vineyard cannot participate militarily on Earth V.

(I didn't realize this until now since his military declaration is so cluttered.)

Hey,

I was looking to get into an Earth and this all seems actually like a good deal. Since school is always such a drag I am looking for a small country, very small. I also like being a ultra capitalist; so I thought it over and finally fingered on the idea of Hong Kong. Small, but good, I could want to change, down the road if Hong Kong turns out to be a touch to small but it would be interesting to play an military 2-tier power until I have more time.


So of course when territories exchange hands a good RP is needed, I don't think I will do anything drastic, a Red Velvet Election sounds good in this case. Like the Czechs and their Soviet buddies; I am just running this on by to see if anyone else has comments, suggestions, ideas, or anything of use to help me build a more realistic country for V.


I ma usually a little on the irritating side; I correct people sometimes a little bit to much, even though being a stickler isn't bad per-say I hear a lot of people hate being corrected consistently by one "noob". Regardless, hope somehow you will be able to stand me as me and my marginal Hong Kong run around Asia and have a good old time.

So RP & Factbook are to be my main things to do?

First and foremost The Great Sixth Riech, or Sharina has to approve your claim.

But yes, a factbook is good, and if you want to participate in ANY military action, you must post a military declaration in the military declaration thread.

Otherwise sit back and have fun, and make good friends with your neighbors, heh.

But yes, a factbook is good, and if you want to participate in ANY military action, you must post a military declaration in the military declaration thread.

Suprisingly, I know; this is going to be quite shocking, I carefully read over every little bit of post and the links from the recruitment's main post. Regardless, I doubt Hong Kong's "army" could be classified as anything more than a over-funded police force.


Otherwise sit back and have fun, and make good friends with your neighbors, heh.

I'll try but I am not making any promises ;) .

Suprisingly, I know; this is going to be quite shocking, I carefully read over every little bit of post and the links from the recruitment's main post. Regardless, I doubt Hong Kong's "army" could be classified as anything more than a over-funded police force.

Just reaffirming you because you seemed to be asking what the main things to do were other than bitterly saying "Read the firs tpost."

Friendliness my friend.

Just reaffirming you because you seemed to be asking what the main things to do were other than bitterly saying "Read the firs tpost."

Friendliness my friend.

Okay, I'll focus and really try to be somewhat on the friendly side.

I usually think it is polite to ask what to do next, I already knew, I just hating to sound like a know it all. A habit of sorts when it comes to my posting.

That was somewhat friendly, I really need to wrok on getting along.....

Hey,

I was looking to get into an Earth and this all seems actually like a good deal. Since school is always such a drag I am looking for a small country, very small. I also like being a ultra capitalist; so I thought it over and finally fingered on the idea of Hong Kong. Small, but good, I could want to change, down the road if Hong Kong turns out to be a touch to small but it would be interesting to play an military 2-tier power until I have more time.
Confirmed.

Here's some information on what's stationed in Hong Kong, which could be your military. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Hong_Kong)

I'd be glad to help :p...

Ok. :)

Regarding a World Cup: I've got experience doing scoring for stuf in the past, as well as bracketing stuff up, so I'm willing to do it for this. Of course, we'll need qualifiers and things of that nature. Also, would it be national teams like the current UK (all parts of the UK try to qualify individually, even though Wales and Scotland and such are part of the UK) or would it be total empires?

I just need to know so I can start seeding.

Um, you can scorinate, but only if you know a legitimate way, not rolling dice or something. Although dice would probably be fine for this first one...


We'll need host bids and other stuff. As for how we'll work it, I'm thinking that we should play even-levelled as our nations(Sel Appa, TG6R,...) rather than usign real antions because it would be quite hard to figure actual bonuses for better teams. So even if you own Brazil, you're still as good as whoever owns Saudi Arabia. Unless you really want it. Think we need a new thread for this?

Ok. :)



Um, you can scorinate, but only if you know a legitimate way, not rolling dice or something. Although dice would probably be fine for this first one...


We'll need host bids and other stuff. As for how we'll work it, I'm thinking that we should play even-levelled as our nations(Sel Appa, TG6R,...) rather than usign real antions because it would be quite hard to figure actual bonuses for better teams. So even if you own Brazil, you're still as good as whoever owns Saudi Arabia. Unless you really want it. Think we need a new thread for this?

Ya I know jsut saying.

Confirmed.

Here's some information on what's stationed in Hong Kong, which could be your military. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Hong_Kong)

Thank you, the link helped a lot and saves me some time, which I am always grateful for.

I'll get my factbook up sometime today or tomorrow, probably tomorrow but the military thing will be done by tonight.

Thank you, the link helped a lot and saves me some time, which I am always grateful for.

I'll get my factbook up sometime today or tomorrow, probably tomorrow but the military thing will be done by tonight.

I can offer you some better fighters then your airforce already has.

D-Prime I would like you to get a hold of me because I would like to know if we can get to the membership of Republic of India.

Actually I would, I don't have my DB figured out but I would hope to buy 25 of whatever you have, they just have to out perform my J8-2's.

Sorry for bothering Sharina but I can't seem to get my budget to go, here is my NSCalculator (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Moorington) and Hong Kong RL links but I end up having 8$ for my whole defense budget.... :headbang:

Ah great, cannot find CIA Factbook page. Jesus, it seems everypage is going down; if it isn't jolt its this and if its not this its that....

Well, you know where to find it. So please help.

I was looking to get into an Earth and this all seems actually like a good deal. Since school is always such a drag I am looking for a small country, very small. I also like being a ultra capitalist; so I thought it over and finally fingered on the idea of Hong Kong. Small, but good, I could want to change, down the road if Hong Kong turns out to be a touch to small but it would be interesting to play an military 2-tier power until I have more time.
...
So RP & Factbook are to be my main things to do?
Welcome Moorington! It's really great to have you with us here in Earth-V!

I'm going to take a look at your budget!

The player that has China here in Earth-V is really very inactive, I cannot remember a single post from that user. Just for your information...

A factbook is really nice, but it's not mandatory.

Welcome again!

Moorington, Budget
NS-population: 2,693,000,000
RL-population: 6,940,432
Factor: 0.003
NS-Defense budget: $24,550,009 million (Thirdgeek (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Moorington))
Earth-V Defense Budget: $63,271 million

Allowed military personnel:
2% = 138,809
3% reserve = 208,213

Funding example:
Total troops: 138,809
Troops w/ 60% logistics: 55,523
Logistics personnel (40%): 83,285
Funding for troops (always 50%): $31,635 million
Funding for logistics and new equipment (always 50%): $31,635 million
Budget amount per troop: $569,764

Welcome Moorington! It's really great to have you with us here in Earth-V!

I'm going to take a look at your budget!

The player that has China here in Earth-V is really very inactive, I cannot remember a single post from that user. Just for your information...

A factbook is really nice, but it's not mandatory.

Welcome again!

Well thanks for the welcome and good job on my budget. It's appreciated, and easy to read, thanks.

Actually I would, I don't have my DB figured out but I would hope to buy 25 of whatever you have, they just have to out perform my J8-2's.

I can get you hooked up with 25 AMX International AMX Fighter Bomber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_International_AMX). Its a great plane that is multirole so it can be an anti ship, ground and air superiorty fighter for your nation.

I can get you hooked up with 25 AMX International AMX Fighter Bomber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_International_AMX). Its a great plane that is multirole so it can be an anti ship, ground and air superiorty fighter for your nation.

and a trainer.

Welcome to Earth V Moorington.

and a trainer.

Welcome to Earth V Moorington.

Heyyyyy My plane's better than a trainer. :(

Heyyyyy My plane's better than a trainer. :(

Not from where I'm sitting. Thats all its used for in my nation. :D

Nah, I'm just playing I use it as both as a light ground attack fighter and as a trainer. Your going to laugh to, the Venezuelan Air Force uses it. Yep, the same country right across your South American Border. :D

As for the trainer comment. I was adding that its not only used as a light attack craft but can be and is also used as a trainer. Its a nice multi-purpose aircraft as you said.

Heres a really good link on it- http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/amx/

Welcome to Earth V Moorington.

Thank you!

As for DP, those multi-purpose jets look like they can fill a good niche in, how about 15? How much are you asking for them?

Thank you!

As for DP, those multi-purpose jets look like they can fill a good niche in, how about 15? How much are you asking for them?

Free for a new nation.

Is my WC thing approved?

Free for a new nation.
Why thank you, I always consider buying equipment the way to go and if I need anymore fighter jets in the future; like when my J8-2's finally become to out of date, I'll turn to you again. Maybe even pay money next time. ;)

Greetings,

I respectfully request to join into Earth V, abide by it's policies and RP actively within it. If successful, i'd prefer to try and "run" Pakistan and Afghanistan jointly.

Regards,
BT

Greetings,

I respectfully request to join into Earth V, abide by it's policies and RP actively within it. If successful, i'd prefer to try and "run" Pakistan and Afghanistan jointly.

Regards,
BT


I fully endorse him. He gets the Azaha seal of approval.

I fully endorse him. He gets the Azaha seal of approval.

You say that like it's a good thing. :eek:

BT

Greetings,

I respectfully request to join into Earth V, abide by it's policies and RP actively within it. If successful, i'd prefer to try and "run" Pakistan and Afghanistan jointly.

Regards,
BT

Accepted. ;)

Hey TGSR I would like to know if you would like to join us in our alliance. Here is the link. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498113&highlight=EATO

Here it is and we would be glad if you could join us. Thank you very much.

I wonder if this brings back memories!!!

http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/


And if it doesn't, tant pis...

In any case, this is me asking if the following states are here to confirm their acceptance in EV:

Moorington: Hong Kong
Bree Tonia: Afghanistan, Pakistan [with Azaha's supposed OOC endorsement :rolleyes:]

I'm going to do this from now on, because I'm putting too many people on the claims list and the people don't ever do anything - not even to post an acceptance... [of course, Moorington looks like he's active enough... besides, I know you :p so if you acknowledge that you've read this, I'll be fine with it...]

I'm going to do this from now on, because I'm putting too many people on the claims list and the people don't ever do anything - not even to post an acceptance... [of course, Moorington looks like he's active enough... besides, I know you :p so if you acknowledge that you've read this, I'll be fine with it...]

I am not acknowledging I did anything of the sort! ;)

You know me.... Hmm.... From what RP? If people "remeber" me it is usually because I got ejected for calling their mo-.... Well, I don't need to go into that particular subject.

Honestly, did we have an RP before?

Well, I must admit that except for very special reasons my RPing not on the weekends will be quite limited. One of the reasons I wanted such a small country. On the weekends though I will be pretty active; unless I am not there, then of course getting here while not there will make here more important than the hypothetical not here.

Make sense? Of course not; I don' even know what I said!

I'm adding the two new players because I've received enough clamor to convince me that they're going to be active. Don't disappoint me, because my wrath shall be incurred upon thee! [ummm... I make good quiche...]

Hey TGSR I would like to know if you would like to join us in our alliance. Here is the link. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498113&highlight=EATO

Here it is and we would be glad if you could join us. Thank you very much.
Remember that this is the OOC thread... ;)

But I'll save you guys the trouble and tell you that TG6R will not be joining any new military alliances at this time.

Remember that this is the OOC thread... ;)

But I'll save you guys the trouble and tell you that TG6R will not be joining any new military alliances at this time.

Um, is my WC thing approved...I dont want to do something if it isnt approved...

Um, is my WC thing approved...I dont want to do something if it isnt approved...
Ja.

About the WC thing, would I be allowed to join it?
According to some I am not in control of my Nations.

A NOTICE OF WARNING TO THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS:

Wanderjar
Auman
Wolfensland
Philanchez
The 9th Founding
Spartanox

This is the friendly map guy telling you that I haven't seen anything of the recent days involving your countries in EV. If you are still active, please reply and your name will be taken taken off the red list. If you aren't and are reading this message, please be kind and tell me so at least people can have the opportunity to take some of the territories and be active as well.

This is only a warning. In 48 hours, the names listed here will be stricken from the map and their territories will be open to future, more active RPers. In an update, those names listed in red on the map thread are subject to all future instances of possible deletion. I will still post a warning like this on the OOC thread, so people can read in the absolute full sphere of things. This update has been included [or will be... as soon as I add it...] to the list of provisos on the map thread.

Is China cursed?

Ok, Ill get working on it tommorrow...the WC...and its for anyone in this.

Also about Wanderjar, he made a post saying he was leaving the forums for a while. So I doubt he will be back for his stuff. But wait the 48 hours just in case.

I'll see what happens to WAnderjar - I didn't see his "going away" message, so I will wait for his word. The main warning is maintained for everyone else...

I know that guy, Wanderjar, he was in AMW for a bit then dropped out.....

I would like to claim South East China if Spartanox is leaving. If he's not leaving I would like to have the North West part of China instead.

Is this possible?

I would like to claim South East China if Spartanox is leaving. If he's not leaving I would like to have the North West part of China instead.

Is this possible?

What is your repertoire of RP experience?

I wonder if this brings back memories!!!

http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/

And if it doesn't, tant pis...
Oh, that's a long time ago. :)
Fun you found it.

A NOTICE OF WARNING TO THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS:

Wolfensland
The 9th Founding

I've sent Wolfensland TG's a couple of times regarding EV (wanted to do business with him), but he hasn't even answered. I think you can delete his claim.

The 9th Founding posted that he doesn't have the time for this when the school started, and he actually withdraw his claim.

I will make necessary adjustments tomorrow, when I am less pressed for time.

But thanks for noting those very things!!! Makes my wait time less strenuous...

What is your repertoire of RP experience?
Although my postcount is low, I'm having a lot of experience. This is a new nation (surprise!), but it's not the first time for me here on NationStates.

Although my postcount is low, I'm having a lot of experience. This is a new nation (surprise!), but it's not the first time for me here on NationStates.

I know it's a new nation - from what previous experiences do you hail? If it's all good, then TG6R will likely let you in without a hassle. Otherwise, he's going to make you RP your ascension into the said territories... once the territories are liberated from Spartanox's inactivity or explicit dictation concerning his inability to RP actively.

Ni shuo Putonghua?

Koop can you give me a link to your store front?

Okay, folks here is the signup for the World Cup:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499370

I want to get 16 nations at least. We also need a host and whoever volunteered to scorinate to reannounce that.

presumably this is the soccer world cup. correct?? South Africa will join and may have an interest in procuring the hosting rights to the game....

correction: this is the EVWCI OOC Sign-up thread...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499370

The other one is basically a relay to the EV Main OOC Thread.

ALM the area that you have marked for Vladivostok is not the correct area. The area that you need to mark is that funny looking pieace of land that is close to Alaska. Kamchatka Peninsula is what should be marked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kamchatka_peninsula_topo.jpg

If you check the link out this is what I am talking about. Thank you.

No he's quite correct.

ALM the area that you have marked for Vladivostok is not the correct area. The area that you need to mark is that funny looking pieace of land that is close to Alaska. Kamchatka Peninsula is what should be marked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kamchatka_peninsula_topo.jpg

If you check the link out this is what I am talking about. Thank you.
The area you are talking about is not the Vladivostok area.

Check out this link, and take a look at largest cities:

Primorsky_Krai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primorsky_Krai).

So, is this the place to make claims, or at the very least begin to get involved? I'm not entirely . . . smart
I realize my nation is tres tiny, but I've had some biggies before, I just kinda get stuck in a rut with countries and get forced to ditch em. Hopefully, this one will stick.
How does this go tho? Do I need approval to make a claim or . . . cause I gots plenty o' ideas

The area you are talking about is not the Vladivostok area.

Check out this link, and take a look at largest cities:

Primorsky_Krai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primorsky_Krai).

CAN I PLEASE GET A LINK TO YOUR STORE FRONT!!!!!!!!!!!

SIBAT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495178)

correction: this is the EVWCI OOC Sign-up thread...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499370

The other one is basically a relay to the EV Main OOC Thread.

oopsy...

ALM the area that you have marked for Vladivostok is not the correct area. The area that you need to mark is that funny looking pieace of land that is close to Alaska. Kamchatka Peninsula is what should be marked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kamchatka_peninsula_topo.jpg

If you check the link out this is what I am talking about. Thank you.

The Kamchatka Peninsula is not Vladivostok. I know Russian history, and I know Vladivostok. The map is as right as I can maintain it right now. [not intending to harsh......] - besides, there's very little industrial capability set for that territory; it's all snow and extremely active volcanoes [notice how it fits nicely into the Japanese islands chain, following the Kuril Islands...]

So, is this the place to make claims, or at the very least begin to get involved? I'm not entirely . . . smart
I realize my nation is tres tiny, but I've had some biggies before, I just kinda get stuck in a rut with countries and get forced to ditch em. Hopefully, this one will stick.
How does this go tho? Do I need approval to make a claim or . . . cause I gots plenty o' ideas

Ummm, being small and rather new, can you list your previous experience, so we at least have a tangible set of RPs? Not to discourage you if you've lost all of them, but I'm personally up for new people - I just want to make sure personally that the people coming are totally committed to making excellent RPs, so something on the lines of a resume would be nice. In fact, talk to TG6R [The Great Sixth Reich], if you need help with this - the same goes for the China guy. He's the ultimate authority on this stuff, so talking to him is the absolute best thing that you can do at the moment [unless of course, if he's still on vacation, in which, talk to me - but talk to TG6R first!]

In fact, talk to TG6R [The Great Sixth Reich], if you need help with this - the same goes for the China guy. He's the ultimate authority on this stuff, so talking to him is the absolute best thing that you can do at the moment [unless of course, if he's still on vacation, in which, talk to me - but talk to TG6R first!]
I'll see if I have links to my old RP's. Otherwise you have to trust me on my word...
I've begun the work of a factbook for People's Republic of Asian China, the link is in my signature.

I'll see if I have links to my old RP's. Otherwise you have to trust me on my word...
I've begun the work of a factbook for People's Republic of Asian China, the link is in my signature.

ok...

FYI, the list is now to be updated. Those listed in red are hereafter booted, because they have made no reply [except for those to whom I have given exceptions because of some other person vouching on their behalf...]

It will be a little while before the map is updated itself, but it should be today.

103,080th in the world for Nudest. who can beat me?

Eston - i - a (The CSA) = 616th :D

103,080th in the world for Nudest. who can beat me?

By a long shot- 20,516th in the world for Nudest. Isn't freedom intoxicating. :D

As it says in my UN Category: Civil Rights Lovefest :cool:

Dweladelfia Prime would like to claim cyprus. Please confirm.

TGSR, am I recognized as South East China, or what do you say? I'm working on a factbook, but it would be nice to know that my work isn't a total waste...

Dweladelfia Prime would like to claim cyprus. Please confirm.
As we have told you before, last time you tried to claim something:

You cannot claim any more land. You must invade it and make a proper RP about it.
The mods cannot confirm this unless you have made a proper IC RP.

Today at 0500 hours the 1er Régiment... [snip]
I think this post should have been in the IC-thread?

As we have told you before, last time you tried to claim something:

You cannot claim any more land. You must invade it and make a proper RP about it.
The mods cannot confirm this unless you have made a proper IC RP.

Duh. I know. I'm climing it. When i say claiming I mean im going to invade it.

My post in United Earethling's spainish invasion thread reminded me of something.

Did I mention that Sistan announced that he will ignore my participation in the Red Sea War AND Earth V! All aparently because of (And I quote) my "Gimped" military and my god-moding 'Loyalty" within my army and within my states.

Now, seeing how I have made myself clear innumerable times that I do NOT control any forign territories of mine that are not under the jurisdiction of Regent Windsor, I can only speculate that he is refering to my Soldier's fervent loyalty to the Empire, and their past resistance to attempted bribes. Allow me to explain such a system in detail.

All citizens of the Empire are immersed into a subtle propogation campaign soon after first comming to the public schools (Around the age of 5 or 6), teaching them about matters of the State and its Values. Amungst those are Loyalty to the Empire that broght your people from the Brink of Barbarity to the pinnicle of Civilization, about how your job will reflect your Category (Items,clothes, cars, etc are restricted to certain categories, categories belonging to certain occupations. IE: Used cars Salesman being a category 2 or 1, the lowest categories in the system, with Generals, Ministers, and CEOs of State companies being in Category 10, the highest Category.) This gives the peoples a motivation to be the best of the best. Another example of such proprogation is the clause where if you Serve the Empire, you serve yourself, your family, and your future generations. Crime is always brutally supressed (My Law & Order system budget being larget than my defence budget!) and such a life will get you no where but to the grave. Other principals are: Efficency, orginization, obeying your superiors, dicipline in all things, no discrimination, no religious symbols in public, respect others Ideals, etc etc etc...

Anyhow, The Peoples become immersed in Border-line radicalism to the state in their Middle school/High school years, their complete immersion into citizenship and full obligation to the state being administered in Profession Schools (Universities). If one enlists in the Government or Army, an Entire year of training is devoted to State Loyalty.

Another action the Empire takes to nib rebellion or Disloyalty in the bud is an inflated officer corp. officers, when given fewer men, can invest more investigative time int each man under their command. not only that, but if an officer were to become rebelious or disloyal, innumerable other officers can migitate his impact. or damage he could do.

Loyalty to the State has been a major issue in the nation of Vineyard ever since it went overseas. There, is no such system was in place, a rebelion could occur, and it would be months, if not years, before the Empire could respond in force.

Anyhow, back to Sistan. Why is he allowed to ignore people in Earth V? If someone gets in his way, IGNORED. If someone resists him, IGNORED. Shouldn't the general rule be that if you join Earth V, you cannot simply ignore the other players in the game? You cannot simply their presence, their politics, their econemies, their armies! We are all part of a community on Earth v! And If you don't like someone, deal with it! Its how Real life works, you cannot simply delete people you dont like or people who undermine you!

As such, I demand that the mods take action. I am not asking for Sistan's removal, but im asking for you to ban, or for that matter make rules against, ignoring other players in Earth V, unless they are blatently god-moding as decreed by the Mods.

...As such, I demand that the mods take action. I am not asking for Sistan's removal, but im asking for you to ban, or for that matter make rules against, ignoring other players in Earth V, unless they are blatently god-moding as decreed by the Mods.
Ironically, I was going to do that today or tomorrow for the same reasons. This practice has got to stop; Earth V is founded on realism, but ignorning must only be a last and temporary resort.

Duh. I know. I'm climing it. When i say claiming I mean im going to invade it.

One usually invades a country prior to claiming it not after claiming it. (would russia give a nation 5 weeks notice before invading. I think not....):p

Duh. I know. I'm climing it. When i say claiming I mean im going to invade it.

ditto on everyone else, this is the ooc channel. IC stuff stays in the IC place.

If you want to ICly invade Cyprus [can't claim], do so. Don't post a claim here unless you're new or you've completely assimilated the territory.

TGSR, am I recognized as South East China, or what do you say? I'm working on a factbook, but it would be nice to know that my work isn't a total waste...

TG6R?

TG6R?
Ja.

I will be making all changes to the map today. This weekend is going to be rough, so I can't guarantee being on.

I've noticed that there have been a lot of IC annexes, and I'm too lazy right now [studying...] to get them all. SVP, POST YOUR ANNEX IN THE MAP THREAD FOR THIS TIME ONLY!!! If someone could post them ALL in one post, that would be nicer. If it's an IC annex, post it in the map thread so I can get to it. Anything after 0000GMT will not be taken until later, so get it up before then.

If you're claiming as a first time player, post it here still so TG6R can confirm it.

I'm back. I finally got DSL broadband so I'm able to get online pretty easily and everything now. So I'll be able to check on Earth V and resume my RP'ing (I want to finish my Illionis and Wisconsin RP though).

I'm back. I finally got DSL broadband so I'm able to get online pretty easily and everything now. So I'll be able to check on Earth V and resume my RP'ing (I want to finish my Illionis and Wisconsin RP though).

Too lat for my world cup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11669065#post11669065), unless you replace someone...

I'm back. I finally got DSL broadband so I'm able to get online pretty easily and everything now. So I'll be able to check on Earth V and resume my RP'ing (I want to finish my Illionis and Wisconsin RP though).

Welcome back, I sent a message to you. Its in your factbook for earth 5. Here's the post. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11673132&postcount=20

Sel- actually, he's in it. I put him in as a nation that didn't say they were entering, but is being entered anyways to get it up to the required amount.

Sel- actually, he's in it. I put him in as a nation that didn't say they were entering, but is being entered anyways to get it up to the required amount.

Like I said...

So...

I'm going into bootcamp a full 3 weeks earlier than I expected(They had an earlier opening, I took it.) So.... that means India would eventually become dead....

I'd do an RP to pass it off to some one else like Samtonia or Bree-Tonia.. however...India's population Alone is so massive as is the possibility of her military that I think I'll just leave it in a point of chaos... or have a military coup happen, leaving the basics intact and making it hard to conquer.

So.. I guess I give up India? I leave for bootcamp in 5 days.. Wednesday to be exact.. so.. yeah.

So...

I'm going into bootcamp a full 3 weeks earlier than I expected(They had an earlier opening, I took it.) So.... that means India would eventually become dead....

I'd do an RP to pass it off to some one else like Samtonia or Bree-Tonia.. however...India's population Alone is so massive as is the possibility of her military that I think I'll just leave it in a point of chaos... or have a military coup happen, leaving the basics intact and making it hard to conquer.

So.. I guess I give up India? I leave for bootcamp in 5 days.. Wednesday to be exact.. so.. yeah.

Well, since you have joined our alliance, the EATO we the nations of the EATO could guard it for you and take tiny chucks to watch over till your return. or something to that effect. I don't think I want unstable government near me. Remember, I have Sri Lanka and you controlling India brought stability to the area.

Till you leave, since your now a member you get to vote on who gets in our alliance or not. Check out the EATO thread, two new nations have asked to join and we need your say on it. All members have to agree for that new nation to join before that nation(s) can become a new member.

I really doubt I'll be back however.

2 months of bootcamp, afterwards I won't have my own computer until after my A-School. Leaving the public base computers and such. That would make me highly inactive, and unable to participate in many RP's entirely.

But, you never know.

Alrighty, I got a telegram from Sharina.

His verdict: Sistan cannot ignore anybody, no matter what.

Having checked the claims lists, would it be ok for me to take Bermuda? ((It's probably too small to put on the map so no worries there)).

*Raises Eyebrow*

Bermuda? Just Bermuda? How about take some more island nations, just to give you a fighting chance.

Edit: Then again, I am Hong Kong, and that doesn't get on the map either.....

Alrighty, I got a telegram from Sharina.

His verdict: Sistan cannot ignore anybody, no matter what.

Too bad. I'm still ignoring you until you shape up.

I will not deal with your wanked loyalty or fantasy-land economy. Indoctrination doesn't work the way you think it does, especially on the scale you try to claim, and your economy simply doesn't work. Period. I'm also not going to recognise any Vineyardian resistance from your former territories or your wanked military. Everyone else started over from scratch short of Sharina and TG6R, and you're no different. You don't get to claim old territories, you don't get to keep your old military, and so on and so forth.

Until you stop acting like your nation is perfect, neither you nor your actions will have any effect on me.

Too bad. I'm still ignoring you until you shape up.

I will not deal with your wanked loyalty or fantasy-land economy. Indoctrination doesn't work the way you think it does, especially on the scale you try to claim, and your economy simply doesn't work. Period. I'm also not going to recognise any Vineyardian resistance from your former territories or your wanked military. Everyone else started over from scratch short of Sharina and TG6R, and you're no different. You don't get to claim old territories, you don't get to keep your old military, and so on and so forth.

Until you stop acting like your nation is perfect, neither you nor your actions will have any effect on me.

Well, I like to hear and discuss economies, just a little hobby of mine. So would you please expand on the earlier comment of his not up to your expectations economy?

Well, I like to hear and discuss economies, just a little hobby of mine. So would you please expand on the earlier comment of his not up to your expectations economy?

Supposedly in addition to to the unwavering loyalty of his people and remarkable lack of corruption, he has a completely closed economy that can produce everything he needs for fractions of what it would cost anyone else to make. (IE: 10,000 EF-2000 Eurofighters for far, far less than the $630 billion that would cost. And that doesn't even factor the labor pool that would be needed to produce that many planes.)

Essentially, he's parading around like his nation is the paragon of civilization, when in reality it seems to be far closer to North Korea. I guess we all know where Baghdad Bob went after the US invasion...

*Raises Eyebrow*

Bermuda? Just Bermuda? How about take some more island nations, just to give you a fighting chance.

Well, he already owns this:
USA [Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia]

So, Bermuda will not be his only claim.

Too bad. I'm still ignoring you until you shape up.Until you stop acting like your nation is perfect, neither you nor your actions will have any effect on me.

Sharina and TG6R,

we cannot have this player in Earth-V. He isn't just ignoring players, he also declares that he will ignore the moderators moderations.

There is no reason to talk about his RP in the Red Sea War any longer. He has obviously selected to stop RP there when he was counterattacked by the Red Sea Alliance - he hasn't taken any kind of losses, and he has ignored my posts in the thread.

Now you need to make a decision.

I would like to know if Whittlesfield is still RP in EV or not because I would like to get the rest of France to complete the whole nation. And I wouldn't like to start a war with the Empire of Whittlesfield I would also like to know if he is not because then I am going to be doing what no other French Leader does and that is invade Britian and the surrounding islands. Thank you very much.

Too bad. I'm still ignoring you until you shape up.

I will not deal with your wanked loyalty or fantasy-land economy. Indoctrination doesn't work the way you think it does, especially on the scale you try to claim, and your economy simply doesn't work. Period. I'm also not going to recognise any Vineyardian resistance from your former territories or your wanked military. Everyone else started over from scratch short of Sharina and TG6R, and you're no different. You don't get to claim old territories, you don't get to keep your old military, and so on and so forth.

Until you stop acting like your nation is perfect, neither you nor your actions will have any effect on me.

Much of what you state is quite hypocritical, considering that you frequently RP resistance to being non-existant, especially in nations where there is a supposed "support" of Sistan. You have neither posted responses to Kopparberg's actions, nor mine [the ships], nor the other various positions stated by Vineyard, Warta Endor, and others; not to mention you quit your Caucasus campaign when nearly everyone else intervened to help Granate, and there was some kind of ooc war over Pakistan. A lot of people are simply ignoring you because you ignore them, and quite frankly, this doesn't work very well in the long run.

I would like to know if Whittlesfield is still RP in EV or not because I would like to get the rest of France to complete the whole nation. And I wouldn't like to start a war with the Empire of Whittlesfield I would also like to know if he is not because then I am going to be doing what no other French Leader does and that is invade Britian and the surrounding islands. Thank you very much.

I don't know. He was active at some point, but I haven't seen him much since then.

Having checked the claims lists, would it be ok for me to take Bermuda? ((It's probably too small to put on the map so no worries there)).

I will add Bermuda to the list IC conquests, only if I see something valid in the IC thread. Also, you've been conquering those other American territories for a while. Have you integrated them yet?

Well, he already owns this:
USA [Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia]

So, Bermuda will not be his only claim.


Well if that isn't a fighting chance I don't know what is! :p

Hey guys whats going on?

Supposedly in addition to to the unwavering loyalty of his people and remarkable lack of corruption, he has a completely closed economy that can produce everything he needs for fractions of what it would cost anyone else to make. (IE: 10,000 EF-2000 Eurofighters for far, far less than the $630 billion that would cost. And that doesn't even factor the labor pool that would be needed to produce that many planes.)

Essentially, he's parading around like his nation is the paragon of civilization, when in reality it seems to be far closer to North Korea. I guess we all know where Baghdad Bob went after the US invasion...

Well, he can do anything with his country, like if they turn into some kind of half human half plant people fine, that gives our little RPs so much more than RL, since can you honestly point to a half-human half-plant country? No, that's why it is so fun to do these little "storyboard" like things.

As for the Eurofighter, I really got to say that is a valid point, several key European nations devoted some serious joint R&D money so that it could work, doing it domestically is disappointing to say the least and has two other smaller points. It eliminates a lot of join-project diplomatic ties which you should always try and do for a deeper, more fulfilling time. Secondly it eliminates much of neutrality issues like not being able to make the best, so you got to settle for silver. Like Sweden and its little jet fighter. If everybody could make their own "better-than-thou's" airplane then it would destroy some serious key diplomacy.

Well, maybe 1 & 2 were the same point but heh, I ramble without to much direction regardless.

Even though 1 of those two points had merit we aren’t talking about the needed amount to suddenly go "Ignore" for just about everyone. This is fun because you don't know what the other player is going to do, and as such he is going to want different things. So compromising is always a must have. So listen, debate, and have fun.

Lastly, I can't get to mad at you [Sistan], as a grammar nitpicker (and spelling) since really all of your junk is organized and spelt pretty much correctly all the time. Which I would hate to see go to waste, so try and shape up, Parthia did it (shaped up) in Earth II, and he was a lot more far gone. So I think you can just get your "Ignore" cannon to quiet down I think (hope, pray, whatever) we won't have a chunk of our beautiful Middle East missing anytime soon.

Too bad. I'm still ignoring you until you shape up.

I will not deal with your wanked loyalty or fantasy-land economy. Indoctrination doesn't work the way you think it does, especially on the scale you try to claim, and your economy simply doesn't work. Period. I'm also not going to recognise any Vineyardian resistance from your former territories or your wanked military. Everyone else started over from scratch short of Sharina and TG6R, and you're no different. You don't get to claim old territories, you don't get to keep your old military, and so on and so forth.

Until you stop acting like your nation is perfect, neither you nor your actions will have any effect on me.

Sistan's out.

Even if he had issues with Vineyard, he should AT LEAST be willing to talk about it and work it out instead of "Screw you! IGNORED!". I don't want that kind of attitude in Earth V.

Imagine... in RL- Saddam chooses to IGNORE both Bush Sr. and Jr. in both Gulf Wars because he didn't want to deal with US intervention. That didn't happen, did it? The US went ahead and did its stuff.

Consquently, in Earth V, you can't exactly IGNORE stuff unless exteunating circumstances, and only two circumstances at that.

1. Extreme god-modding like Hataria and Sephiroth
2. The player is away on vacation or not be able to be active for a period of time (weekend trip or such).

Hey guys whats going on?

Sistan's out

Pretty much sums it up.

Hmmm. Tabriz looks awfully good right about now. I think I will move reclaim most of the Caspian Sea that is now open. Hehe, Even in a small country such as mine Imperialism still finds it's roots.

Hmmm. Tabriz looks awfully good right about now. I think I will move reclaim most of the Caspian Sea that is now open. Hehe, Even in a small country such as mine Imperialism still finds it's roots.

Have fun, I'm staying out of the Middle East. That place is a mess as Sistan just demonstrated. Funny to, even here on Earth V in a Role playing forum will still have trouble with the Middle East and Iran. Got to love irony. :rolleyes: Man, I don’t know all about you but, that’s just hilarious.

Have fun, I'm staying out of the Middle East. That place is a mess as Sistan just demonstrated. Funny to, even here on Earth V in a Role playing forum will still have trouble with the Middle East and Iran. Got to love irony. :rolleyes: Man, I don’t know all about you but, that’s just hilarious.

Maybe because it is just such a obvious choice for the less learned. Pick what country you hear the most about. So no wonder most of the little learned among us pick the most known nationstates.

Something along these lines were probably being said about the players of the USSR and US of A. Or at least, simpler versions of this.

Sistan's out.

Even if he had issues with Vineyard, he should AT LEAST be willing to talk about it and work it out instead of "Screw you! IGNORED!". I don't want that kind of attitude in Earth V.

Imagine... in RL- Saddam chooses to IGNORE both Bush Sr. and Jr. in both Gulf Wars because he didn't want to deal with US intervention. That didn't happen, did it? The US went ahead and did its stuff.

Consquently, in Earth V, you can't exactly IGNORE stuff unless exteunating circumstances, and only two circumstances at that.

1. Extreme god-modding like Hataria and Sephiroth
2. The player is away on vacation or not be able to be active for a period of time (weekend trip or such).
Confirmed.

Insubordination inferring with gameplay is simply unacceptable on Earth V.

I will add Bermuda to the list IC conquests, only if I see something valid in the IC thread. Also, you've been conquering those other American territories for a while. Have you integrated them yet?

They are now fully integrated, I'll post a thread for the Bermuda thing shortly (i.e. when I can get round to writing it)

They are now fully integrated, I'll post a thread for the Bermuda thing shortly (i.e. when I can get round to writing it)

I will fix it...

neato

Samtonia I think it would be easier for the meeting that you are proposing that if it where a new thread. It would quite cluttered in the Internation Incidents Thread,

Granate: Okay. If someone else wants to get up a thread before me, go right ahead. Call it the Tashkent Accord or something of that nature.

I'll get on it sometime today. Got a few things to do. Was only able to just check out NationStates.

Im back. BTW who won Earth Vs world cup? (sorry about recent lack of participation i just had S%^& to take care of)