NationStates Jolt Archive

Wow. Thank you for pointing that out for me.

*Hatches evil plan*

Well, I would of thought you'd have realised that. Though I mean slightly less effective Futuris - if you started doing your land grabbing again we still have a large chunk of our forces watching you, and Japan seemed interested in the conflict before, so don't go getting carried away on your conquering of Africa plans. :p

Futuris got post 1500. Darn. I wanted 500, 1000, and 1500.

Anyway: Granate, I TGed you about plans.

TGed the rest of ya'll who sent me some too.

AB: Sent back.

Futuris and AB, I replied your TG's.

Futuris got post 1500. Darn. I wanted 500, 1000, and 1500.

All part of my evil plan....lol :p

The most recent map (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/earthss-4.png).

I think someone forgot to update the front page

Replied to the recent TGs.

I think someone forgot to update the front page

Which reminds me to update my Threads/Factbooks...

@AB: Is the Entente thing with me in official then?

Which reminds me to update my Threads/Factbooks...

@AB: Is the Entente thing with me in official then?

Yup. We're at 5.

I replied to your TG, AB.

Again, replied to the new TG.

Replied again.

TGs are all find and dandy, but we probably all need to get an IM program that each other has. This makes it a little easier.

FO sho.

Everybody have MSN? or AIM?

I have AIM. I could just make a new SN so I could have just ESS people on it. Same goes for MSN.

You all should be able to guess what I have.

Replied, Candistan

Replied, AB.

Replied, Candistan

Replied, AB.

With posts like this, we definately need an IM System.

Futuris has TG!

I don't want to sound stupid, but AB has TG.

I don't want to sound stupid, but AB has TG.

replied.

Replied...again.

Once again, AB has mail.

Seems like I missed a lot in the last few hours.

Just so I don't feel left out, someone send me a TG. It can be about anything. The weather, good movies you saw recently, whatever. I wanna be one of the cool people too! :D

On the subject of IMs, I have an MSN account, and that's about it. The address is in my profile if you feel the need.

im gonna go play soldierfront (HOOAH, Sarge 1st Class)
peace

Kampfers, when you said sector, I though you meant a very large area, as is with most military Sectors. But from what I can gain from your post, a sector isn't exactly a large area...

By the way, since I guess China's been pretty much voided, i'm gonna go ahead and press for the annexation of Inner Mongolia soon. I assume the country's in a civil war at the moment (you know, the government's kind of collapsed and all), so does anyone feel like RPing whoever's in control of Inner Mongolia? I plan on making an "impassioned plea" for reunification first to whoever is in control, so maybe the majority of the violence can be avoided (though there would of course be dissident militias, minority groups rioting, etc), though I doubt that'll happen. I'll get all the details hammered out later; at this point, any volunteers?

By the way, since I guess China's been pretty much voided, i'm gonna go ahead and press for the annexation of Inner Mongolia soon. I assume the country's in a civil war at the moment (you know, the government's kind of collapsed and all), so does anyone feel like RPing whoever's in control of Inner Mongolia? I plan on making an "impassioned plea" for reunification first to whoever is in control, so maybe the majority of the violence can be avoided (though there would of course be dissident militias, minority groups rioting, etc), though I doubt that'll happen. I'll get all the details hammered out later; at this point, any volunteers?

Actually, the China guy posted in the Japan Guy's thread yesterday, I believe.

Actually, the China guy posted in the Japan Guy's thread yesterday, I believe.

Yeah, he did.

If anyone wants to play the Dominican Republic or Haiti, I just attacked both with a large cruise missile barrage againts each nations's two largest cities.

DPW: If China does get voided, I'll play them for you.

Futuris, you got TG!

I'd like to remind people that the GA-18 is still available for export and soon the G7MH as well. I just need to find a person to make the lineart and finish the write up.

What was the GA-18 again?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12587632&postcount=160

Enjoy.

I always kinf of like Anti-Vehiclular Rifles compared to RPG's and rocket launchers, they just have a cooler look to them. I actually think Vintorez is working on a 21mm rifle for light and medium-armored vehicles. I should look into that...

Denel Ordinance already designed a 20mm Sniper Rifle.

I was thinking of designing a 25x61mm H-AVR for my special forces and Guards divisions.

I was thinking of designing a 25x61mm H-AVR for my special forces and Guards divisions.

The recoil would be killer. The 20mm Gun Denel designed is barely used and when it is, it is used with sandbags on top of the bipod legs.

I know it would. I would have to throw in as much anti-recoil things in as possible, such as a special separate barrel apparatus with brakes on it or something. I would have it as a special deployment gun, for example a soldier having one for that situation when an IFV or something pops up and has to get taken out. It could also be used well for breaching things from afar, blowing off a handle of a door or busting a small hole in a wall.

I know it would. I would have to throw in as much anti-recoil things in as possible, such as a special separate barrel apparatus with brakes on it or something. I would have it as a special deployment gun, for example a soldier having one for that situation when an IFV or something pops up and has to get taken out. It could also be used well for breaching things from afar, blowing off a handle of a door or busting a small hole in a wall.

Almost no amount of Muzzle Breaks, Sliding barrels, or any other recoil dampeners will bring it down to a reasonable level. The gun would cost so much and would be used so sparingly that it's almost useless to actually create one. If you want, I'll just sell you the DPRs for the 20mm gun and you can modify it from there. The 20mm gun works and is used in exactly the same way you want it to be used.

Yeah, I'd be better off just making it an aircraft gun for Hips and Hazes and Hinds. That way, since it is latched down to the copter, recoil isn't so much of an issue. It could probably also be put on a car or something, too.

The most recent map (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/earthss-4.png).

I think someone forgot to update the front page
Fixed now, after so long an overlook I don't even want to talk about it.:headbang: Humblest apologies to the map mod, for H-Town certainly has t3h l33t m4pp1ng sk1llz whereas mine are concentrated ph4i1 at present; and is most gracious besides for putting up with my endless frontpage foibles.
Anyway, I'm glad to see today was active (yeah, my TG's were bursting the box too, when I wasn't at work or at dinner with a teacher's family...), so that's at least good. I should be more active soon myself since my RP situations are calming down one by one.:D If this keeps up, I might just have to start something to avoid disappearing from the broader NS RP world entirely...:eek:

Fixed now, after so long an overlook I don't even want to talk about it.:headbang: Humblest apologies to the map mod, for H-Town certainly has t3h l33t m4pp1ng sk1llz whereas mine are concentrated ph4i1 at present; and is most gracious besides for putting up with my endless frontpage foibles.
Anyway, I'm glad to see today was active (yeah, my TG's were bursting the box too, when I wasn't at work or at dinner with a teacher's family...), so that's at least good. I should be more active soon myself since my RP situations are calming down one by one.:D If this keeps up, I might just have to start something to avoid disappearing from the broader NS RP world entirely...:eek:

Would it be posable for me to end some ASAS to kidnap one of your elven for...experimentation purposes :D and feel free to join in my nuclear terrorism thread with Vetaka if you like the crap is really hitting the an in my broader NS country now.

Wanna know what happens you mix a wierd japanese anime, Warhammer 40k, and furries?

This. (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2436/1177817341206dh4.jpg)

Kampfers, when you said sector, I though you meant a very large area, as is with most military Sectors. But from what I can gain from your post, a sector isn't exactly a large area...

well, first off, let me say that we do things a little differently in the GGA.

2nd off, I would like to say that if it was the size of a normal military sector, then
a) I do not believe that you have all the resources that you say you do, but even if you did
b) I do not believe you could have mobilized the said troops fast enough to attack it like you have

Actually, the China guy posted in the Japan Guy's thread yesterday, I believe.

Hardly shows much activity, one post in about two weeks. I mean, China would be involved in one of these conflicts by now, so I say we go ahead with the dividing of China unless he objects and becomes more active.

I've sent a TG to all major TA members.

I've replied to Cookesland in the Unification of Africa thread. I hope you like it :p

I doubt that he'll actually attack you. A lot of things have changed since he made that statement, and I'm sure the Monarchy there is regretting it right now.

Hardly shows much activity, one post in about two weeks. I mean, China would be involved in one of these conflicts by now, so I say we go ahead with the dividing of China unless he objects and becomes more active.

I've sent a TG to all major TA members.
'T wounds me, but I'm starting to agree. I TG'ed him and he hasn't replied at all; seems too busy as I've been on the verge of being until recent turns of good fortune. Oh, and TG replied, pass it on; thanks.:D

'T wounds me, but I'm starting to agree. I TG'ed him and he hasn't replied at all; seems too busy as I've been on the verge of being until recent turns of good fortune. Oh, and TG replied, pass it on; thanks.:D

I replied to that.

hey there, looking at the map in the consolidation thread, it looks like a chunk of east africa, angola, Oman, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain may still be up for grabs? if so, I was wondering if I could claim them. I think I could use the economies of the latter two or three territiores to support and develop the rest to some extent...

If that's not up for grabs, maybe you could let me know what is?


Thanks,
Maslowniea

http://www.nationstates.net/44794/page=display_nation
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Maslowniea

well, first off, let me say that we do things a little differently in the GGA.

2nd off, I would like to say that if it was the size of a normal military sector, then
a) I do not believe that you have all the resources that you say you do, but even if you did
b) I do not believe you could have mobilized the said troops fast enough to attack it like you have

A) Well considering between Greece and Turkey I have roughly 500 Leopard 2s, and that the countries have around 2,000 other tanks.
B) Well you didn't exactly announce any mobilization orders. You only declared war and sent 5 JAS Gripen 39s. Not exactly mobilizing your forces.

hey there, looking at the map in the consolidation thread, it looks like a chunk of east africa, angola, Oman, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain may still be up for grabs? if so, I was wondering if I could claim them. I think I could use the economies of the latter two or three territiores to support and develop the rest to some extent...

If that's not up for grabs, maybe you could let me know what is?


Thanks,
Maslowniea

http://www.nationstates.net/44794/page=display_nation
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Maslowniea

Yeah, its open, but Wagdog has to confirm your claim.

hey there, looking at the map in the consolidation thread, it looks like a chunk of east africa, angola, Oman, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain may still be up for grabs? if so, I was wondering if I could claim them. I think I could use the economies of the latter two or three territiores to support and develop the rest to some extent...

If that's not up for grabs, maybe you could let me know what is?


Thanks,
Maslowniea

http://www.nationstates.net/44794/page=display_nation
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Maslowniea

Sorry buddy. I am invading Angola and Tanzania. So Unless you want to fight me I would suggest you abandon those claims.

hey there, looking at the map in the consolidation thread, it looks like a chunk of east africa, angola, Oman, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain may still be up for grabs? if so, I was wondering if I could claim them. I think I could use the economies of the latter two or three territiores to support and develop the rest to some extent...

If that's not up for grabs, maybe you could let me know what is?


Thanks,
Maslowniea

http://www.nationstates.net/44794/page=display_nation
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Maslowniea

Yep there open, so you can probably take these countries - you have a lot of powers in Africa such as Algeria and Morrocco etc. open. Though Angola and Tanizia are under invasion, the whole rest of Africa could be yours really.

I sent you a TG Maslowniea.

cool, in the meantime I'll take in the unification of Africa thread. are there any Mideast threads that I should familiarise my self with?

Maslowniea

Yep there open, so you can probably take these countries - you have a lot of powers in Africa such as Algeria and Morrocco etc. open. Though Angola and Tanizia are under invasion, the whole rest of Africa could be yours really.

I sent you a TG Maslowniea.

Algeria is under Futuris' control

What countries make up his nation and what is its name?

He hasn't stated anything really. Only East Africa, Oman, and Angola.

Yeah, I think basically most of East Africa, a bit of Western Africa and a few places like Bahrain. Basically, most of what remains of Africa bar a few Western areas that it seems Granate will probably invade :rolleyes:

Yeah, I think basically most of East Africa, a bit of Western Africa and a few places like Bahrain. Basically, most of what remains of Africa bar a few Western areas that it seems Granate will probably invade :rolleyes:

:p

:p

I did have a plan of sorts on how to stop you getting your hands on some more lucrative African terrority until this guy came along, though now I might as well let you take a few African nations - everyone is uncovering evidence linking whole nations to the Havana bombings...it's quite strange... :p

Oh, and the guy who just claimed, can you read my TG please.

Unless you want to risk war with the NAR...

Yeah, blaming nations for the Havana bombings is the new fad, though I haven't done that yet.

Yeah, blaming nations for the Havana bombings is the new fad, though I haven't done that yet.

We didn't blame them for it. We just said that they were linked to the bombing, not responsible for it.

Alright, If I get approved, I'll claim what I outlined above (Oman, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, the chunk of east africa that's still grey on the map linked below including Tanzania, and angola.) Granate: I'll scrap you for Tanzania and Angola (I'm sure we've got lots of AKs, RPG-7s, macheties and child-soldiers sitting around!)-or- maybe we can enter into some sort of uneasy-alliance type arrangemet or have my those territories under partial/full occupation of a "peace-keeping" force (something like south-lebanaon in the 80s). I can always rebel later right?

we can hash it out later, (provided i'm approved of course). Right now i need to get ready for work. I'll be on late tonight (midnight eastern time). i still need to get a map infront of me to see what exactally I've claimed!!!;)

Honako: I read you msg, I'll consider it too:)




http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/earthss-4.png

Eh, No. If you want them, you'll have to fight me for them.

Granate: alright. Can you give me a couple days to figure out just what I'm working with? I've been putting together armed forces at NS Wiki, but they'd probabally be godmoding here... (see links below). I'll need to rethink them.

I still have to figure out how these mid-east territories became united with the african territories...(maybe pan-africanism met pan-arabism and they fell in love?:fluffle:)

anyhoo, I imagen I'll lose angola and tanzania in the short-term. But we can duke it out anyway. I'm sure I can foster a pro-reunification insurgancy in the aftermath and look to taking them back later.



http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/Arsenal
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/orginisation

Granate: alright. Can you give me a couple days to figure out just what I'm working with? I've been putting together armed forces at NS Wiki, but they'd probabally be godmoding here... (see links below). I'll need to rethink them.

I still have to figure out how these mid-east territories became united with the african territories...(maybe pan-africanism met pan-arabism and they fell in love?:fluffle:)

anyhoo, I imagen I'll lose angola and tanzania in the short-term. But we can duke it out anyway. I'm sure I can foster a pro-reunification insurgancy in the aftermath and look to taking them back later.



http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/Arsenal
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/orginisation
Howdy!:D Claim approved (UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi), with the disputed sections (Angola, Tanzania) left out so you can fight over them if you desire. Here's a suggestion, might this be some sort of Ethiopian Empire reborn; perhaps with a bit of anti-Arabism and conquest thrown in (that whole "Lion of Judah" thing...). Your country so your call, but that's one idea if you need some.;)

Howdy!:D Claim approved (UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi), with the disputed sections (Angola, Tanzania) left out so you can fight over them if you desire. Here's a suggestion, might this be some sort of Ethiopian Empire reborn; perhaps with a bit of anti-Arabism and conquest thrown in (that whole "Lion of Judah" thing...). Your country so your call, but that's one idea if you need some.;)

I think he wants some Eastern Areas too.

Granate: alright. Can you give me a couple days to figure out just what I'm working with? I've been putting together armed forces at NS Wiki, but they'd probabally be godmoding here... (see links below). I'll need to rethink them.

I still have to figure out how these mid-east territories became united with the african territories...(maybe pan-africanism met pan-arabism and they fell in love?:fluffle:)

anyhoo, I imagen I'll lose angola and tanzania in the short-term. But we can duke it out anyway. I'm sure I can foster a pro-reunification insurgancy in the aftermath and look to taking them back later.



http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/Arsenal
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/orginisation

Yes those are quite god-modding. Do some research on what your countries have and make a factbook here instead of at NSWiki.

Futuris, read the TG is sent you for the full details, but when you assault the Erstreich-Middle Eastern Territories, give me a ring.

Granate: alright. Can you give me a couple days to figure out just what I'm working with? I've been putting together armed forces at NS Wiki, but they'd probabally be godmoding here... (see links below). I'll need to rethink them.

I still have to figure out how these mid-east territories became united with the african territories...(maybe pan-africanism met pan-arabism and they fell in love?:fluffle:)

anyhoo, I imagen I'll lose angola and tanzania in the short-term. But we can duke it out anyway. I'm sure I can foster a pro-reunification insurgancy in the aftermath and look to taking them back later.



http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/Arsenal
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/User:Maslowniea/sandbox/MSDF/orginisation

Well, I'm sure if you made a good enough case, the TA would be on your side, but then the Entente would back Granate.

Well, I'm sure if you made a good enough case, the TA would be on your side, but then the Entente would back Granate.

Mmm... I smell a proxy war.

Mmm... I smell a proxy war.

It won't be much of a proxy war.

Mas: About your arsenal on NSwiki, I hope that won't apply here, since the NAR (US IRL) hasn't sold Cyclones or San Antonios are Wasps to any of your nations...nor have they sold Super Hornets.

I guess you could sub them in for "Suspension of Disbelief", but you'd have forces to substitute them with, and with your forces, I'm not sure.

Either way, Here's America saying: Glad to have you aboard.

Hope you like the upcoming alien invasion :P (TG me for details on that).

Hell, I'd buy a few Super-Hornets if they weren't like expensive and if the NAR was selling them.

It won't be much of a proxy war.

True dat.

True dat.

Considering if he actually fights me, I may just roll over Tanzania and keep on moving into Kenya and Uganda.

Considering if he actually fights me, I may just roll over Tanzania and keep on moving into Kenya and Uganda.

The TA would give you a hell of a lot of flak for that, but you can always count on the Entente backing you :)

Yes those are quite god-modding. Do some research on what your countries have and make a factbook here instead of at NSWiki.
But do remember, you don't have to obey more than the statistics for the countries' arsenals (X tanks, Y fighters, &c). Provided that you're not substituting an equal number of Leopard 2A6s for T-55s or suchlike, which although perhaps fun would be a borderline godmod, you can build your forces sort-of as you imagine them in NS. Sorry for the downer there, but I have to maintain some boundaries on even a pseudo-RL Earth; unless one likes the idea of RL Third World dictatorships running around with space-age weapons in RP. I do :D, but many don't and I understand why not (I started with that absolute-equivalent-substitution idea, then decided against it in favor of the current rules for economic and overall sanity reasons, and now think I might start another Earth where my original rule idea applies just for the heck of it someday...:eek::p).
Also, the more-reasonable NS tech is also legal here, depending on discussion so that we can decide the boundaries case-by-case since one player's reasonable almost invariably ends up another's godmod. Here's a good rule overall though: don't buy any weapon that you can only afford ONE of with your entire defense budget; since you'll have nothing left for training and such until next IC year...

Hell, I'd buy a few Super-Hornets if they weren't like expensive and if the NAR was selling them.

I'm selling the F/A-18C reasonably, but the E/F isn't for sale quite yet (at least, not at prices that anyone but the GEACPS and me can probaly afford in quantity).

The TA would give you a hell of a lot of flak for that, but you can always count on the Entente backing you :)

I'm sending one of my Pacific carrier groups to the area, so we'll see what happens there.

I'm selling the F/A-18C reasonably, but the E/F isn't for sale quite yet (at least, not at prices that anyone but the GEACPS and me can probaly afford in quantity).

That would put me in a predicament, JAS 39 Gripens or Super Hornets.... decisions... decisions

I'm sending one of my Pacific carrier groups to the area, so we'll see what happens there.

I can't wait for Futuris to come back so we can nab our target in the Black Sea.

That would put me in a predicament, JAS 39 Gripens or Super Hornets.... decisions... decisions

Well, the C isn't a Super Hornet, so I'd go Gripen for now.

If you're interested in Fighting Falcons, however, I'm quite more open in that market.

You know, my super cool russian MiGs and Sukhois are still open for sale...not the Yaks though.

Well, the C isn't a Super Hornet, so I'd go Gripen for now.

If you're interested in Fighting Falcons, however, I'm quite more open in that market.

SO MANY CHOICES......

Hello there. Is there still possibilty of claiming some territory? If yes then can I have all of Somalia? I need to put my Kingdom somewhere. :p

Hello there. Is there still possibilty of claiming some territory? If yes then can I have all of Somalia? I need to put my Kingdom somewhere. :p

Somalia is taken, but Central Asia is open.

Deurum: Would you like Western Africa? A big portion of Western Africa is open.

Better question: Would you like China?

Deurum: Would you like Western Africa? A big portion of Western Africa is open.

Better question: Would you like China?

IDK about China...do you have previous experience RPing?

IDK about China...do you have previous experience RPing?

Good point.

Well, Western Africa's fun, I played that In SYAE...go for it, Deurum.

Yes I have previous experience Rping. I am a current member of an online fourm called gaiaonline and know much about making a nation.

Edit: I liked to take Western Africa.

What AB said. By the way, you got TG!

I sent you a TG Wagdog. Also, someone may have to RP the Yugoslavian forces for when I assault, another job for you Wagdog :p .

Considering if he actually fights me, I may just roll over Tanzania and keep on moving into Kenya and Uganda.

We'll overlook Angola and Tanzania, but if you invaded anymore we (as in the TA, probably mostly Europe) would defiantly send forces fight you back. Though as America is present in nearly ever war, it would eventually become a bit one sided...

Yes I have previous experience Rping. I am a current member of an online fourm called gaiaonline and know much about making a nation.

Oh Jesus... just no.

Oh Jesus... just no.

lol

lol

You do not understand my natural need to call him a certain word that involves a sladerous word against homosexuals. It's killing me!

Deurum: Would you like Western Africa? A big portion of Western Africa is open.

Better question: Would you like China?

Sigh, can we not say basically that China is to be divided and conquered? I thought we'd decided this by now. If someone came in with China so late with a world war beginning it could change everything and would become a massive battle for him to be on either alliance.

Oh Jesus... just no.

I spend my time in the guild section of the fourm. More specifically the Organization and Military subfourm if that makes it any better.

I sent you a TG Wagdog. Also, someone may have to RP the Yugoslavian forces for when I assault, another job for you Wagdog :p .



We'll overlook Angola and Tanzania, but if you invaded anymore we (as in the TA, probably mostly Europe) would defiantly send forces fight you back. Though as America is present in nearly ever war, it would eventually become a bit one sided...

Well, I can't stretch too far. My Atlantic fleet is stretched really thin, and while my Pac fleet is still very fresh, I've got to keep some forces at home.

Senders: I'd be willing to spare your nation from further annihilaion for a small concession. TG me if you'd be interested. (By the way, I've got 5 CVBGs in the Carribbean and 6 expeditionary forces moving into Mexico, so that's encouragement, I hope).

Sigh, can we not say basically that China is to be divided and conquered? I thought we'd decided this by now. If someone came in with China so late with a world war beginning it could change everything and would become a massive battle for him to be on either alliance.

If it comes to have China invaded, (unless Granate would like to do it) I'd RP the Chinese. If Granate's interested in taking the Chinese forces, however, I may get Pac fleet involved in that too (not right off the bat, though).

Yes I have previous experience Rping. I am a current member of an online fourm called gaiaonline and know much about making a nation.

Edit: I liked to take Western Africa.

Oh Jesus... just no.

lol
Could you be more specific about what in West Africa you'd like? All is fine, but a list of the countries you'd like is optimal. Also, I'm not going to carry any off-NS RP grudges or NS-l33tizm onto ESS, so no Granate he is welcome here; capiche?:rolleyes:

It's killing me inside, but I'll let it go. FOR NOW.

You do not understand my natural need to call him a certain word that involves a sladerous word against homosexuals. It's killing me!

What, d'you have a problem with gaiaonline? I googled it; it doesn't look too bad. It's a bit childish-looking, sure, but then again, I still play Ragnarok Online occasionally, so i've got no right to accuse anything of being "childish". :D

And on the China issue, yeah, I thought it was pretty much settled as to what's gonna happen - Eralineta hasn't really done, well, anything. I might as well TG him myself and see whether he actually plans to do anything, but I highly doubt he'll respond. If that's the case, i'll begin setting up a thread for that (a conflict in China) and see where it goes, if that's okay with you guys.

Could you be more specific about what in West Africa you'd like? All is fine, but a list of the countries you'd like is optimal. Also, I'm not going to carry any off-NS RP grudges or NS-l33tizm onto ESS, so no Granate he is welcome here; capiche?:rolleyes:
I like Nigeria,Sierra Leone, Togo ,Cape Verde,Liberia and Ghana.

What, d'you have a problem with gaiaonline? I googled it; it doesn't look too bad. It's a bit childish-looking, sure, but then again, I still play Ragnarok Online occasionally, so i've got no right to accuse anything of being "childish". :D

And on the China issue, yeah, I thought it was pretty much settled as to what's gonna happen - Eralineta hasn't really done, well, anything. I might as well TG him myself and see whether he actually plans to do anything, but I highly doubt he'll respond. If that's the case, i'll begin setting up a thread for that (a conflict in China) and see where it goes, if that's okay with you guys. AB, you still up for RPing Inner Mongolia?

Google 4Chan and go to /b/ and say your from GaiaOnline. Thats where I get my prejudice. On second thought, don't go to 4Chan if you value your soul.

(Sorry for my inactivity yesterday, I was at the Draft Day Party at FedEx Field.)

Anyway, AB, I seem to have missed it when you posted stuff about the E/F, could you give me a link to it (provided you'll sell it to a TA member)?

Wagdog, back when we first dicussed an invasion of China, said he would Rp them. Seeing as you and Granate have both expressed interest in doing so, y'all would have to work something out.

Corbournne;12593030'](Sorry for my inactivity yesterday, I was at the Draft Day Party at FedEx Field.)

Anyway, AB, I seem to have missed it when you posted stuff about the E/F, could you give me a link to it (provided you'll sell it to a TA member)?

Wagdog, back when we first dicussed an invasion of China, said he would Rp them. Seeing as you and Granate have both expressed interest in doing so, y'all would have to work something out.

I think it is more fair if a non-TA member did it since the TA is the main aggressor in this conflict.

Google 4Chan and go to /b/ and say your from GaiaOnline. Thats where I get my prejudice. On second thought, don't go to 4Chan if you value your soul.

Quite frankly, i'd rather stay as far far away from 4chan as possible. No offense, but that kind of thing frightens me sometimes. :D

Do it Mongolia, you'll have support as I'm sure you know.

If it comes to have China invaded, (unless Granate would like to do it) I'd RP the Chinese.

I see no issue with that. Wagdog, I sent you an TG asking you to do something, if you can :)

Quite frankly, i'd rather stay as far far away from 4chan as possible. No offense, but that kind of thing frightens me sometimes. :D

Good.

I like Nigeria,Sierra Leone, Togo ,Cape Verde,Liberia and Ghana.
Approved, will add now before I make a stop @ TWSP's store for some small arms and then hit lunch (how's that for a spicy OOC/IC blend, eh?:p)

Google 4Chan and go to /b/ and say your from GaiaOnline. Thats where I get my prejudice. On second thought, don't go to 4Chan if you value your soul.
I'll probably visit 4chan just to see what all the ruckus is about. After all, it's not like the endless "ZOMG! It'z t3h R3i!" pics are exactly bad from my POV. But what's on GaiaOnline or 4chan, STAYS THERE as far as ESS is concerned, OK?

Corbournne;12593030'](Sorry for my inactivity yesterday, I was at the Draft Day Party at FedEx Field.)

Anyway, AB, I seem to have missed it when you posted stuff about the E/F, could you give me a link to it (provided you'll sell it to a TA member)?

Wagdog, back when we first dicussed an invasion of China, said he would Rp them. Seeing as you and Granate have both expressed interest in doing so, y'all would have to work something out.
Interest, yeah, but again I need to resolve more of the Ascension bit after lunch so I'll be more able to do the PRC (be ready for learning in detail just why the PLA 38th Army is so celebrated...:p) as my Zanski quagmire resolves itself. I'll be more active soon people, so just be patient...

Corbournne;12593030'](Sorry for my inactivity yesterday, I was at the Draft Day Party at FedEx Field.)

Anyway, AB, I seem to have missed it when you posted stuff about the E/F, could you give me a link to it (provided you'll sell it to a TA member)?

Wagdog, back when we first dicussed an invasion of China, said he would Rp them. Seeing as you and Granate have both expressed interest in doing so, y'all would have to work something out.

I was trying to say that I'm not selling the E/F period-it's my numero uno naval fighter, until the Naval F-23 comes out, I won't be selling it.

I'll post in the Market thread here about every American ware that is avaliable regarding the military (They're all for everyone [except the M1A2]; just the prices differ depending if you're entente or no).

I can only pray it doesn't come to China yet.

Approved, will add now before I make a stop @ TWSP's store for some small arms and then hit lunch (how's that for a spicy OOC/IC blend, eh?:p)


I'll probably visit 4chan just to see what all the ruckus is about. After all, it's not like the endless "ZOMG! It'z t3h R3i!" pics are exactly bad from my POV.


Interest, yeah, but again I need to resolve more of the Ascension bit after lunch so I'll be more able to do the PRC (be ready for learning in detail just why the PLA 38th Army is so celebrated...:p) as my Zanski quagmire resolves itself. I'll be more active soon people, so just be patient...

Nigeria is owned by Futuris.

About PRC: Do you want it, or should I do it? I'm resolving that I'm not going to get involved in China (I need some forces at home), so I could do it impartially here.

Wagdog: Don't go. Seriously. Don't go. Trust me.

Nigeria is owned by Futuris.

About PRC: Do you want it, or should I do it? I'm resolving that I'm not going to get involved in China (I need some forces at home), so I could do it impartially here.
That would be great if you can. So far my off-ESS RPs are taking their sweet time being ended:headbang:, even if the big threat I was dealing with has receded for the moment. So although I've got more time the Ascension claim and @ least one other IIRC are going to be about all I can keep going @ once on my end. Your estimate of your limit before we need to start calling in volunteers or pausing?:confused:
Oh and Deurem, I fixed your claim since Nigeria is Futuris' territory. Is there a country you'd like that could compensate in West Africa?

If someone can give me the link for the blank version of the world map, I'll update the ESS map...

Do it Mongolia, you'll have support as I'm sure you know.



I see no issue with that. Wagdog, I sent you an TG asking you to do something, if you can :)
Replied.:D Will do that before I hit the storefronts, although note that I need to TG Dirik so don't be surprised if he rescues his claim using my letter as a jumping off point.

Replied.:D Will do that before I hit the storefronts, although note that I need to TG Dirik so don't be surprised if he rescues his claim using my letter as a jumping off point.

*waves a big stick*

you never replied if your ok with us doing an RP where my ASAS kidnap one of your elven for "experimentation"?

*waves a big stick*

you never replied if your ok with us doing an RP where my ASAS kidnap one of your elven for "experimentation"?
Thanks for the stick; RP approved.:) I've got a good one too, see if you can grab the one who's my ambassador to Vetaka in off-ESS RP. She's a great specimen, but also REAL hard to get so that one should be a good RP, ne?:p
EDIT: Sry for being so informal with her name, but my computer's being stupid about its RAM lately and is having Word give me the business...:headbang: If you copy-paste her name (complete with those Elven accents of course) you should be fine.

That would be great if you can. So far my off-ESS RPs are taking their sweet time being ended:headbang:, even if the big threat I was dealing with has receded for the moment. So although I've got more time the Ascension claim and @ least one other IIRC are going to be about all I can keep going @ once on my end. Your estimate of your limit before we need to start calling in volunteers or pausing?:confused:
Oh and Deurem, I fixed your claim since Nigeria is Futuris' territory. Is there a country you'd like that could compensate in West Africa?

Well, if you'd like to RP the Carribbean countries (Jamaica, Hispaniola, Puerto Rico) (they should be easy-I'm basically wiping them out with missile volleys), I think we can keep up complete activity. Granate's been good about getting some of the European wars that are going on (as RPing the NPCs), and I don't think too many wars are going to happen besides that (possibly the African one, but like the Carribbean, that should be a blowout).

Thanks for the stick; RP approved.:) I've got a good one too, see if you can grab the one who's my ambassador to Vetaka in off-ESS RP. She's a great specimen, but also REAL hard to get so that one should be a good RP, ne?:p
EDIT: Sry for being so informal with her name, but my computer's being stupid about its RAM lately and is having Word give me the business...:headbang: If you copy-paste her name (complete with those Elven accents of course) you should be fine.

Actually :) I was hoping for an ESS RP; my non-ESS coutry is going to hell in a hand basket right now we just got nuked by Islamic terrorists and we got huge riots etc.

Actually :) I was hoping for an ESS RP; my non-ESS coutry is going to hell in a hand basket right now we just got nuked by Islamic terrorists and we got huge riots etc.
I know, but the same characters exist in both although their jobs and histories are of course different.;) Hence, you can grab her for ESS-Animarnia to try experimenting on; although you'll need to get past not only the Red Guard (reservists/police hybrid) but also the Eldar enclaves' own local militias, which carry guns as well as LOTR weaponry even though they prefer the latter usually...:p

I know, but the same characters exist in both although their jobs and histories are of course different.;) Hence, you can grab her for ESS-Animarnia to try experimenting on; although you'll need to get past not only the Red Guard (reservists/police hybrid) but also the Eldar enclaves' own local militias, which carry guns as well as LOTR weaponry even though they prefer the latter usually...:p

Sounds good to me; what kind of Costal defences do you have and how strict are you on seaching freighters etc? at the moment I'm thinking of bringing a freighter to the edge of your Intl waters and then havng a mini sub transport them; also whats your arms blackmarket like?

Replied.:D Will do that before I hit the storefronts, although note that I need to TG Dirik so don't be surprised if he rescues his claim using my letter as a jumping off point.

OK - though if he does come back, what happens if I invade - surely then to be kind I have to give it back to him at some point or what?...unfair :p

OK - though if he does come back, what happens if I invade - surely then to be kind I have to give it back to him at some point or what?...unfair :p
Need to hit lunch so I'll be off a bit, but I'll say that he has to fight for his claim; and if he loses it then he'll need to RP a successful resistance to get it back. After all, I may be easygoing but inactivity has its consequences...:p

I hope Vateka finishes up his heist so he can assist the communist rebels in Installation-17.

Okay, boys 'n girls, i've began writing the intro post for my reunification with/annexation of Inner Mongolia. It oughta be finished either later tonight or tomorrow. It's a bit long and windy, but whatever. Just a heads up, there.

Okay, boys 'n girls, i've began writing the intro post for my reunification with/annexation of Inner Mongolia. It oughta be finished either later tonight or tomorrow. It's a bit long and windy, but whatever. Just a heads up, there.

China will respond with heavy force :P

China will respond with heavy force :P

Is China still considered one nation? I was under the impression that the old government had fallen, and that there were different factions duking it out. Of course, those factions by themselves are probably more powerful than I am, but there ya go. :D If that isn't the case, then I may need to edit stuff a bit. I've made refences to the chance afforded by the fall of the PRC regime, and all that fun stuff.

EDIT: Also, if Inner Mongolia is controlled by a warlord, I wouldn't be averse to bribery and/or support in helping them defeat their opponents, etc, etc. So i'd like to know what avenues I can pursue here.

Is China still considered one nation? I was under the impression that the old government had fallen, and that there were different factions duking it out. Of course, those factions by themselves are probably more powerful than I am, but there ya go. :D If that isn't the case, then I may need to edit stuff a bit. I've made refences to the chance afforded by the fall of the PRC regime, and all that fun stuff.

EDIT: Also, if Inner Mongolia is controlled by a warlord, I wouldn't be averse to bribery and/or support in helping them defeat their opponents, etc, etc. So i'd like to know what avenues I can pursue here.

It's divided to my knowledge, though AB is right - Inner Mongolia is still much stronger than you, so you should not go and attack it without some diplomacy or at least strong assistance. It might be good if you had a brief history as to how it became divided too, to make it have a background a least.

Is China still considered one nation? I was under the impression that the old government had fallen, and that there were different factions duking it out. Of course, those factions by themselves are probably more powerful than I am, but there ya go. :D If that isn't the case, then I may need to edit stuff a bit. I've made refences to the chance afforded by the fall of the PRC regime, and all that fun stuff.

EDIT: Also, if Inner Mongolia is controlled by a warlord, I wouldn't be averse to bribery and/or support in helping them defeat their opponents, etc, etc. So i'd like to know what avenues I can pursue here.

If the warlord thing happens, you can promise GEACPS support, too. Then, we could effectively use him as a puppet.

It's divided to my knowledge, though AB is right - Inner Mongolia is still much stronger than you, so you should not go and attack it without some diplomacy or at least strong assistance. It might be good if you had a brief history as to how it became divided too, to make it have a background a least.

My thoughts: How about let's divide it into a capitalist and communist regime, to really bring out the "fallen government" type of thing. It's the best way, I feel, to fracture China.

Any thoughts? I think it could really flesh out a good RP, while keeping the nation divided (the communist gov was Eralineta's-a gov't that's collapsing, while a proxy gov has come up in Southern China and Hong Kong). I think it has potential.

Though in the North, you'd be facing the struggling old gov't forces.

And of course, then I'd have to promise NAR support to the Capitalist South. But the commies: Go ahead and try to fight them (I won't get involved with that).

It's divided to my knowledge, though AB is right - Inner Mongolia is still much stronger than you, so you should not go and attack it without some diplomacy or at least strong assistance. It might be good if you had a brief history as to how it became divided too, to make it have a background a least.

Oh, believe me, i've got the history; I take Asian History as a class IRL and know a fair amount about Mongolia's interactions with China, mostly from the Chinese side. Here's hoping I do; I have my final exam in two weeks. :P

And i'm not rushing right in just yet - I don't spout all that "Mongolia loves diplomacy" stuff for nothing. :D I'm gonna try and do this as peacefully as possible, though i'm guessing that it's not gonna be a cakewalk.

My thoughts: How about let's divide it into a capitalist and communist regime, to really bring out the "fallen government" type of thing. It's the best way, I feel, to fracture China.

Any thoughts? I think it could really flesh out a good RP, while keeping the nation divided (the communist gov was Eralineta's-a gov't that's collapsing, while a proxy gov has come up in Southern China and Hong Kong). I think it has potential.

Though in the North, you'd be facing the struggling old gov't forces.

And of course, then I'd have to promise NAR support to the Capitalist South. But the commies: Go ahead and try to fight them (I won't get involved with that).

Sounds good to me, in a way - I give my support to the commies in return for assistance against the South, or something like that. Hell, maybe it could be the other way around; given all of the anti-PRC rhetoric i've spouted off in what i've written thus far, that's probably a better idea, and it allows me to go after Xinjiang and GEACPS to declare their support as well and snatch Manchuria. What he does to the capitalist China once they win (if they win) isn't my business... yet. :P

My thoughts: How about let's divide it into a capitalist and communist regime, to really bring out the "fallen government" type of thing. It's the best way, I feel, to fracture China.

Any thoughts? I think it could really flesh out a good RP, while keeping the nation divided (the communist gov was Eralineta's-a gov't that's collapsing, while a proxy gov has come up in Southern China and Hong Kong). I think it has potential.

Though in the North, you'd be facing the struggling old gov't forces.

And of course, then I'd have to promise NAR support to the Capitalist South. But the commies: Go ahead and try to fight them (I won't get involved with that).
'NAR support' - does that mean you'll actually be fighting in China because I got the impression we were all going to leave it to the Asian countries? Sounds a bit like it could turn into Vietnam :p

Personally I think we should go with whatever history Drunken Pagan has so he doesn't have to edit it too much, though he could mention the North have Communist ideals etc.

Sounds good to me, in a way - I give my support to the commies in return for assistance against the South, or something like that. Hell, maybe it could be the other way around; given all of the anti-PRC rhetoric i've spouted off in what i've written thus far, that's probably a better idea, and it allows me to go after Xinjiang and GEACPS to declare their support as well and snatch Manchuria. What he does to the capitalist China once they win (if they win) isn't my business... yet. :P

Well, if you want Manchuria, you'd need to go against the commies (since South China is in the South...). Capitalist China will probaly recieve at least the NAR vocal support (plus, we can keep Capitalist China open for any player that wants to come in).

Oh, just wait 'till I do what I'm planning. You'll all love it oh so much.

BTW, I'd stay out of Manchuria...Bad shit happens.

Naturally, I'd support Capitalist China in this issue, because the WEF is well, Capitalist, but I'll remain nuetral due to my allies being on the Commie side.

Oh and Russia, let me guess - your going to invade China, and probably Turkey, and then the whole worlds superpowers can be controlled by the Entente and this earth will be so fun... :rolleyes: :p

'NAR support' - does that mean you'll actually be fighting in China because I got the impression we were all going to leave it to the Asian countries? Sounds a bit like it could turn into Vietnam: p

Personally I think we should go with whatever history Drunken Pagan has so he doesn't have to edit it too much, though he could mention the North have Communist ideals etc.

AB's idea is fine with me; what I wrote explicitly mentioned the fall/collapse of the PRC, but I can just say that the North are the remnants of the communist forces and it's fine. No worries. :)

Oh, just wait 'till I do what I'm planning. You'll all love it oh so much.

BTW, I'd stay out of Manchuria...Bad shit happens.

Just keep it out of Mongolia/Inner Mongolia and it'll be fine with me.

Of course, you probably won't. Shit happens, I guess. :rolleyes:

No, but I did want to throw all of my ex-commie political prisoners there so I don't have to deal with them anymore. They'll be like most prisoners and cause some more ruckus for all of you to deal with :)

Actually, something DPW and I mulled over in TGs, we would occupy China, but make Tibet independent. That would leave them open to a new player.

With the planned division of China, I could either support the South and take Manchuria, (and see what "bad shit" Candistan has planned (or offer him a portion of it as to avoid a war) or I could support the North, take the areas of China I originally wanted.

Anyway, I'd probably end up trying to take it all eventually.

Just keep it out of Mongolia/Inner Mongolia and it'll be fine with me.

Of course, you probably won't. Shit happens, I guess. :rolleyes:

I was thinking of pretty much flying a bunch of Antonovs over some flat terrain, slowing down a bit and touching down, then throwing a big weight with a rope on it tied to all of the prisoners feet out the back, dragging them all out with it. Then it's your problem, not mine lol.

Corbournne;12593459']Actually, something DPW and I mulled over in TGs, we would occupy China, but make Tibet independent. That would leave them open to a new player.

With the planned division of China, I could either support the South and take Manchuria, (and see what "bad shit" Candistan has planned (or offer him a portion of it as to avoid a war) or I could support the North, take the areas of China I originally wanted.

Anyway, I'd probably end up trying to take it all eventually.

The bad shit is in the above post.

I was thinking of pretty much flying a bunch of Antonovs over some flat terrain, slowing down a bit and touching down, then throwing a big weight with a rope on it tied to all of the prisoners feet out the back, dragging them all out with it. Then it's your problem, not mine lol.

I like, I like. Damn commies. :D

Corbournne, check yer TGs. (Though I guess we could just discuss its contents here instead. Hmmm. :P)

I hoped you would like it! I would of course, drop a boxfull of knives and such off with them to cut their way out of the rope, but I'm sure they can find other uses for them.

Corbournne;12593459']Actually, something DPW and I mulled over in TGs, we would occupy China, but make Tibet independent. That would leave them open to a new player.

With the planned division of China, I could either support the South and take Manchuria, (and see what "bad shit" Candistan has planned (or offer him a portion of it as to avoid a war) or I could support the North, take the areas of China I originally wanted.

Anyway, I'd probably end up trying to take it all eventually.

Heh. Don't be too sure about that (the Chinese military is a strong one, and if I'm gonna support the South...)

Wouldn't the South Chinese eventually try to take over the North?

I like, I like. Damn commies. :D

Corbournne, check yer TGs. (Though I guess we could just discuss its contents here instead. Hmmm. :P)


Replied, and sorry, Candistan, didn't see that.

AB, note I said "try." :D

The South could try, but they'd have to deal with the GEACPS. (If I decide to attack the North.)

I'm China. And I don't want to give it up. I'm sorry, but I'm still playing China.

Wouldn't the South Chinese eventually try to take over the North?

Of course, but then we'd crush them too! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :mp5:

All n00bishness aside, I think the final plan is this: I open up by offering assistance to the North if they cede me, say, Inner Mongolia and Ningxia, and if they agree, I help out, and GEACPS soon does the same. If not, I make the same offer to the South, and we see what happens. My only worry about allying with the North is pissing off the Entente and their anti-commie members. :D

EDIT: Okay, maybe we ignore what I just wrote. Hmmm.

Srry i wasnt on for a while, so i have some catching up to do

A) Well considering between Greece and Turkey I have roughly 500 Leopard 2s, and that the countries have around 2,000 other tanks.
B) Well you didn't exactly announce any mobilization orders. You only declared war and sent 5 JAS Gripen 39s. Not exactly mobilizing your forces.

Umm, pretty sure my forces have been mobilized ever since the crisis in the other hemisphere. Ive had my whole border covered since midway between that. I was waiting for a response to the EMP bombs before i sent in the big boys.

I'm China. And I don't want to give it up. I'm sorry, but I'm still playing China.

lol. Can you please be more active? Oh, and would you like to join the Third Alliance? :p You know, even things out a bit... (im pretty sure that would swing the power meter bck towards the middle.)

Uh ya. Its hard for me to play on weekends, I have finals at college to ya know. It will all be cleared up by May 2nd-5th (maybe as late as the 10th), but no ones been interacting or even TRYING to communicate with China (who are very slow on International things not directly related to them).

Srry i wasnt on for a while, so i have some catching up to do



Umm, pretty sure my forces have been mobilized ever since the crisis in the other hemisphere. Ive had my whole border covered since midway between that. I was waiting for a response to the EMP bombs before i sent in the big boys.



lol. Can you please be more active? Oh, and would you like to join the Third Alliance? :p You know, even things out a bit... (im pretty sure that would swing the power meter bck towards the middle.)


What is the third alliance?

And as I said before. College finals > Nationstates.

What is the third alliance?

And as I said before. College finals > Nationstates.

oh, well i didnt know u had finals...

It is the alliance comprising the GGA (germany and scandanavia) the WEF (western Europe), DPW (mongolia) GEACPS (eastern asia), Wagdog (Pacific), the CAE (central africa) ,and Silvado? (Middle East).
All the countries have different idealogies, but band together for defense.

It's main rival is the Entente with the NAR (north America), UR (russia), Arminria (india), Futuris? and Granate (africa)

If your still playing Eralineta, hope to see China being involved more. :) And Kampfers, that's some shameless recruiting...though I approve :p

oh, well i didnt know u had finals...

It is the alliance comprising the GGA (germany and scandanavia) the WEF (western Europe), DPW (mongolia) GEACPS (eastern asia), Wagdog (Pacific), the CAE (central africa) ,and Silvado? (Middle East).
All the countries have different idealogies, but band together for defense.

It's main rival is the Entente with the NAR (north America), UR (russia), Arminria (india), Futuris? and Granate (africa)

When do you think finals usually are? O.o;

Alright I guess I could join, but China won't be happy with Russia and would expect to by some WEF military parts (they've been after that and Metal Storm for years).

Well if you are serious about being active and joining the TA this could be very interesting.

I'll brief you on the world situation - Havana bombing killed thousands and triggered an American invasion on numerous South American countries and now the Caribbean. The WEF (me) and the GGA are invading parts of Europe we think are harbouring terrorists in their governments, and Africa Empires are expanding, plus Russia probably planning something dodgy... :rolleyes: :p

Fun.

When do you think finals usually are? O.o;

Alright I guess I could join, but China won't be happy with Russia and would expect to by some WEF military parts (they've been after that and Metal Storm for years).

Well, there goes all those American weapons deals...

Well if you are serious about being active and joining the TA this could be very interesting.

I'll brief you on the world situation - Havana bombing killed thousands and triggered an American invasion on numerous South American countries and now the Caribbean. The WEF (me) and the GGA are invading parts of Europe we think are harbouring terrorists in their governments, and Africa Empires are expanding, plus Russia probably planning something dodgy... :rolleyes: :p

"Harboring Terrorists" should be in quotes :P.

It's common expansionism, but we all love it.

Well, there goes all those American weapons deals...

Umm.. your kidding right? America never sells their stuff to anyone, not even allies. Unless it is already at the bottom of their barrel. China has all the countermeasures and has COMPASS. The Chinese have enough anti-air to reduce all but the F-22/B-2 to nothing if they tried to attack. Funnier yet. The strategic targets are heavily guarded so they radar field negates American stealth.

Umm.. your kidding right? America never sells their stuff to anyone, not even allies. Unless it is already at the bottom of their barrel. China has all the countermeasures and has COMPASS. The Chinese have enough anti-air to reduce all but the F-22/B-2 to nothing if they tried to attack. Funnier yet. The strategic targets are heavily guarded so they radar field negates American stealth.

Welcome to ESS. I sell to almost anyone. You didn't see my sales post in the market thread?

The absences are clear, but you know if you refuse the JSF that is grounds for war....hmm..

The absences are clear, but you know if you refuse the JSF that is grounds for war....hmm..

If you declared war on the basis of not getting arms, I'd bust out laughing. China vs. the US would be damaging, but you're surrounded by two of my allies, plus I can send five CVBGs to Chinese waters without diverting my Atlantic force.

When do you think finals usually are? O.o;

Alright I guess I could join, but China won't be happy with Russia and would expect to by some WEF military parts (they've been after that and Metal Storm for years).

lol, im a junior in high school, so my finals are still about 3-4 weeks away.

The GGA might sell you some shit too.

lol, im a junior in high school, so my finals are still about 3-4 weeks away.

The GGA might sell you some shit too.

Gave you a TG.

If you declared war on the basis of not getting arms, I'd bust out laughing. China vs. the US would be damaging, but you're surrounded by two of my allies, plus I can send five CVBGs to Chinese waters without diverting my Atlantic force.

I'd call godmod. Cause we both know you don't have that.

Gave you a TG.

i replied...

and sent one to you Eralineta

I'd call godmod. Cause we both know you don't have that.

Errr, you're mistaken.

I'd call godmod. Cause we both know you don't have that.

LOL

I have 12 CVBGs. Seven in the Atlantic.

Would you like their names?

Kitty Hawk, Enterprise, Lincoln, Washington, Vinson, Bush, Nimitz, Stennis, Reagan, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, and Truman.

LOL

I have 12 CVBGs. Seven in the Atlantic.

Would you like their names?

Kitty Hawk, Enterprise, Lincoln, Washington, Vinson, Bush, Nimitz, Stennis, Reagan, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, and Truman.

lol repled again AB

Oh, is Crete its own country? If not, what country is it a part of?

lol repled again AB

Sent back. I like your idea.

Oh, is Crete its own country? If not, what country is it a part of?

Greece.

LOL

I have 12 CVBGs. Seven in the Atlantic.

Would you like their names?

Kitty Hawk, Enterprise, Lincoln, Washington, Vinson, Bush, Nimitz, Stennis, Reagan, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, and Truman.

Kitty Hawk is decommissioned in 08.
Bush is to be active in 09.

You have 10. Also I doubt you can send five while dealing with other threats. It goes against the naval code. So I highly doubt you can send 5 to deal with China. Also the war is after a key point in Iraq. You won't get far.

I'm interested in the content of these TG's...

Oh, and China, we'll sell you stuff, provided you don't go and start an unnessecary conflict with America...cause I don't want to drag myself or the TA into that.

Oh, is Crete its own country? If not, what country is it a part of?

Crete's part of Greece.

I think I may actually be leaving Cyprus on its own and be using my two CVBGs in the Mediterranean to supplement Russian and Futuris movements in taking things. I'm going to be preoccupied with the CAE war and the Carribbean invasion.

Kitty Hawk is decommissioned in 08.
Bush is to be active in 09.

You have 10. Also I doubt you can send five while dealing with other threats. It goes against the naval code. So I highly doubt you can send 5 to deal with China. Also the war is after a key point in Iraq. You won't get far.

Iraq hasn't ben fought over (America's last war, before this CAE thing, was the Quebec revolt), and I've sped up production (as have other nations-look at the second Russian carrier). The Kitty Hawk hasn't been decommed in real life, so it isn't here either. After all, Bush isn't my president...

Kitty Hawk is decommissioned in 08.
Bush is to be active in 09.

You have 10. Also I doubt you can send five while dealing with other threats. It goes against the naval code. So I highly doubt you can send 5 to deal with China. Also the war is after a key point in Iraq. You won't get far.

Also you forgot things are actually quite different in this timeline. There is no USA, so the Naval Code doesn't apply. Also the NAR could of built them all earlier.

I would really like to know if I am fighting that East Africa guy over Tanzania and Angola.

I'm interested in the content of these TG's...

Oh, and China, we'll sell you stuff, provided you don't go and start an unnessecary conflict with America...cause I don't want to drag myself or the TA into that.

stick around a bit, and if AB and I decide on this, then i will tell you.

Crete's part of Greece.

I think I may actually be leaving Cyprus on its own and be using my two CVBGs in the Mediterranean to supplement Russian and Futuris movements in taking things. I'm going to be preoccupied with the CAE war and the Carribbean invasion.

Ok, thanks. Hey honako, When you take greece (part of the KoE), can you hand over Crete to me? I've got a few plans for it.

AB, you got a TG.

Then I want to see a list of these things. Since I'm on par with China's production and systems, (till 09-10) I'm fine. Also how the hell could you change history like that? That's not something I approve of. You can't magically exclude yourself from three wars and pressure and get away scott free.

Then I want to see a list of these things. Since I'm on par with China's production and systems, (till 09-10) I'm fine. Also how the hell could you change history like that? That's not something I approve of. You can't magically exclude yourself from three wars and pressure and get away scott free.

Wagdog's already approved it, so complaining isn't going to do much.

Then I want to see a list of these things. Since I'm on par with China's production and systems, (till 09-10) I'm fine. Also how the hell could you change history like that? That's not something I approve of. You can't magically exclude yourself from three wars and pressure and get away scott free.

its called alternate history...

Eralineta: Read my factbook. After Vietnam, it gets blown way wack (after all, I have Canada and Cuba, too).

Honako: I sent you a brief TG. Kamp can explain further.

Kamp: Replied.

stick around a bit, and if AB and I decide on this, then i will tell you.



Ok, thanks. Hey honako, When you take greece (part of the KoE), can you hand over Crete to me? I've got a few plans for it.

AB, you got a TG.

Erm, I'll think I'll wait until I'm informed on the whole situation before I answer that...I'll be off in 10-15 minutes.

Corbournne and honako now have TGs. I need responses ASAP.

Eralineta: Read my factbook. After Vietnam, it gets blown way wack (after all, I have Canada and Cuba, too).

Honako: I sent you a brief TG. Kamp can explain further.

Kamp: Replied.

I've decided to increase you tariffs and many investors called in their loans on you. (Chinese investors are a major part of American power and business).

I've decided to increase you tariffs and many investors called in their loans on you. (Chinese investors are a major part of American power and business).

Suit yourself. Entente trade goes up as a result-you'll just hurt your own alliance.

Corbournne and honako now have TGs. I need responses ASAP.

honako, its on your main account, and i have tged u more than once.

Suit yourself. Entente trade goes up as a result-you'll just hurt your own alliance.

WHOA. Slow down there. You realize how much money the Americas owe to China? Your businesses will have to do this. (its not a governmental decision) This does not mean your trade goes up, but your trade and money goes down the tubes. Read the thread.

WHOA. Slow down there. You realize how much money the Americas owe to China? Your businesses will have to do this. (its not a governmental decision) This does not mean your trade goes up, but your trade and money goes down the tubes. Read the thread.

Um, Russia, the WEF, and India happen to be my giant trade partners.

You think America would willingly over time trade with a hostile Chinese government throughout these years? Russian and American relations have been up, up, up. Now, if the WEF pulled something, yeah, that'd be a bitch. But they haven't yet. They're my major trading partner.

Erm, I've replied to you Kamp and TG'd AB...

Um, Russia, the WEF, and India happen to be my giant trade partners.

You think America would willingly over time trade with a hostile Chinese government throughout these years? Russian and American relations have been up, up, up. Now, if the WEF pulled something, yeah, that'd be a bitch. But they haven't yet. They're my major trading partner.

Nothing in your factbook states this and you cannot godmod 'hostile chinese government' because we are not hostile at all. The debt incurred by businesses and the nation over the years is exactly IDENTICAL to your market increases and boom (including the economic problems which were historically caused by the chinese market and fixed by the chinese market). I'm afraid you are godmodding this alternate history thing which would mean your entire group is impossible.

Erm, I've replied to you Kamp and TG'd AB...

Replied.

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Nothing in your factbook states this and you cannot godmod 'hostile chinese government' because we are not hostile at all. The debt incurred by businesses and the nation over the years is exactly IDENTICAL to your market increases and boom (including the economic problems which were historically caused by the chinese market and fixed by the chinese market). I'm afraid you are godmodding this alternate history thing which would mean your entire group is impossible.

Jeez settle down, just because your plan didn't work doesn't mean you need to run down his throat.

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Actually, Era, if you look at my history, my Boom/Recession period is not at all identical. The economy drops during the 90s and rises during the 80s, which is far different than America.

During the Reagan years, the economy dropped, IRL. In ESS, the economy rose then. During the Clinton years, the eco rose. In ESS, it dropped.
Sorry, but I've got my bases there.

Whoa, I've missed a lot. Why is China so mad? Did he read the Suspension of Disbelief and Sussecion of States part on the first page?

I've replied to AB and Kamp, and would like them to TG me please. I'll be off soon, it's late here...everybody try not to do something too drastic, like invading me or whole countries, whilst I'm away, tension seem to running high.. :p

Whoa, I've missed a lot. Why is China so mad? Did he read the Suspension of Disbelief and Sussecion of States part on the first page?
Apparently not.

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And again. Honako, I sent a reply.

Alright, look, can everyone just calm down for a sec and talk this tariff stuff over instead of sniping at each other? Please?

And once again, i'm left out of the TG fun. I'm so insignificant. :( :D

Alright, look, can everyone just calm down for a sec and talk this tariff stuff over instead of sniping at each other? Please?

And once again, i'm left out of the TG fun. I'm so insignificant. :( :D

I'll send you one as you'll be interested. :)

Repost:

Wrong.

You have a massive trade deficit throughout the WORLD. The fact of the matter is you either repay it or your market explodes like the fourth of July, since your own regulations (which is done by investors) shows the American trade deficit as absolutely massive. If you fail to pay it your entire market (corrected for costs) explodes. Housing, manufacturing, computer parts, cars, calculators, office supplies, food and many other things are instantly removed from your system. While China gets a relatively small lashback (computers and intelligence (all high grade).

You either do this or have your entire chinese dependant economy explode. (Just think of this, all the products that are labeled: Made in China or Made in Taiwan, just got removed) All cheap chinese labor throughout clothes and other products just became 40% more expensive and we are calling in your debts, forcing an economic war in which China is in the far better position.

(China will grow from this in actuality because while it suffers a trade deficit with others, America is a surplus, but this reverses the role and switches other neglected areas (which conviently match up about 80% of American demand, become swapped, forcing America into a corner and boosting Chinese sales with new and larger markets that provide better goods (like Western Europe).

Edit: In other words, I just gave you a Massive Depression. (which will lashback on Europe in 6 months, and Asia in 12 months)

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If America cuts arms we cut trade. (Also who's Australia siding with?)

Eralineta, will you please read the first page. Your arguments are wasting space as the rules allow AB to do what he has done.

Be back soon, h/o. Don't declare w/o me, ya'll.

Eralineta, will you please read the first page. Your arguments are wasting space as the rules allow AB to do what he has done.

Quoted for truth. If you wanted STRICT REALISM, you should of went to either Earth V or Earth SYAE when they were active. This earth doesn't really care about realism as much, so your anti-economic strategy doesn't hold well.

What Granate said. Plus, we're even having an alien invasion soon.

POST 2000! w00t!

I literally do not know what is going on here, so, I'm off - I've sent TG's to round everything off.

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I'll send you one as you'll be interested. :)

Replied. :)

I'll be back in a few minutes. Can everyone behave while I'm gone? lol

Quoted for truth. If you wanted STRICT REALISM, you should of went to either Earth V or Earth SYAE when they were active. This earth doesn't really care about realism as much, so your anti-economic strategy doesn't hold well.

That doesn't make sense when economic warfare is void completely. That is an extremely poor way to godmod the ability of your nation to be free from its effects.

That doesn't make sense when economic warfare is void completely. That is an extremely poor way to godmod the ability of your nation to be free from its effects.

Take it up with Wagdog. If you're going to act this way all the time, I can't see alot getting done.

Hey, replied AB and honako...

So yeah, I'm going to get things started in the Middle East and Africa in two different threads.

Glad to have China back too.

About economic warfare - you can have it, but according to ESS principles. In other words, since in the ESS world, the NAR is a major trade partner to the WEF (for example) if the WEF cut trade with the NAR, then you would have a huge deficit. But in AB's alternate history, America doesn't trade nearly as much with China as in RL. So your economic warfare thing is void. Sorry.

Ok, so i really need honako and AB to reply :)

We will suspend our Ultimatum for the time being. However, we do not recognise Tunisia as a part of Futuris, nor its unlawful annexation.

- The Central African Empire

Wow, Futuris, I should have bet money on that claim I made lol.

Back.

Kamp & Candistan: Replied.

Era: Your post actually is incorrect. The Great Depression started in America mostly because of A) Credit, and B) France and Britain not paying back the US, not the US not paying them back. Therefore, it'd actually hurt you.

Let's compare the Great Depression to what you're indicating. By your move, there's going to be more currency in my country-so prices are going to increase. Inflation. Happens all the time.

In your nation-less currency. Prices drop like a rock. This is what happened in the Depression. Since I haven't paid you back, your businesses suffer from having little money now that they've given it to my business (IF they had actually given it to my business. America doesn't have an oil economy really in RL, they do in ESS).

AB replied back

I think honakos gone for now, but im not sure. In a couple of minutes im going to go play soldierfront, so dont wonder where ive gone. Ill be back though.

Kampfers and AB, replied.

Gah fine... the lameness of Earth sanctions have always sucked (and btw... I was in Earth V, hence the familar attack).

See ya Monday/Tues. (More likely Tues)

Hey all, im about to share my insurgency plans to the world (in SIC). Lets just say the fate of Marxikhan lies in the hands of two military's with no GPD.

Also Futris, is the "last flight" still on between us? Not you setting me up a country, but i place for my current "pansy" leaders to live out in exile.

I'm glad you have figured it out.

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Okay, thanks

no problem.

Why won't my sig show up?

lol...i dont even know how to make a sig

it only shows up on posts that are in a thread that have not been edited or replied to in a while. Oh, and i sent you another TG

Okay, thanks.

Attention all nations, The Empire of Deurem has recently sided with the Decaffinated State of Futuris meaning that it is allied to the Entente.

(OCC: Is this how you state your alliegence?))

How come my question was ignored!

Well, uh I guess you're in. But you are the last one since these alliances are going to be severely out of balance if any more join the Entente.

Attention all nations, The Empire of Deurem has recently sided with the Decaffinated State of Futuris meaning that it is allied to the Entente.

(OCC: Is this how you state your alliegence?))

Sure, you can do it this way, but "officially", you should do it in the IC thread (the link is on the first page). Just so ya know.

Kampfers, I replied. Marx, please repeat your question.

Well, uh I guess you're in. But you are the last one since these alliances are going to be severely out of balance if any more join the Entente.

Unless Latin America is let into the Third Alliance....(they could even keep the name ie. the THIRD time the world has had to combine and fight an evil axis, and yes i know that in world war one it was the central powers)

Kampfers, I replied. Marx, please repeat your question.

How do i make a sig?

Kampfers, I replied. Marx, please repeat your question.

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Marx, click quick links on the upper right. Then click edit my signature.

Unless Latin America is let into the Third Alliance....(they could even keep the name ie. the THIRD time the world has had to combine and fight an evil axis, and yes i know that in world war one it was the central powers)

Heh, but with my dealing with the CAE...oh, you don't know about that.

That doesn't make sense when economic warfare is void completely. That is an extremely poor way to godmod the ability of your nation to be free from its effects.
You're not free from the effects of your economy or economic warfare. However, per the "Suspension of Disbelief" rules you can realign your economy's details away from RL to what you want; so long as the raw statistics (GDP, &c) remain unchanged. For example, although I haven't put the percentages up yet I just use my pie from NS rejiggered to adapt to my ESS GDP; same country, same priorities, but on Earth and with an Earthlike population as opposed to the NS one.
In short, if you make one sector of your economy stronger, another has to become weaker to compensate. Other than that, yeah you can do what you want here since I really don't go in for OOC wars over supposed "realism"; seriously. Hence, AB's NAR has a stronger oil industry than IRL, not least due to his pre-RP expansion from the USA.