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Hey, one more thing -

Actually, I was wondering if Dai Bere-Ketsueki could have their HQ stationed at Tristan da Cunha [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tristan_Map.png ].

I have an interesting way of sort of dual-RPing, the Council of the Tristan da Cunha Islands will remain pretty much silent and to it self, only relying on meager trade deals with the outside world but otherwise self reliant. DBB9 will have their own Buildings there on Special Permits, and the only real connection between the two entities is that the Blood Beret take part in training their Security Forces [On a small level].

Think that would be okay?

Well, once I hopefully get some contracts open with other countries you'll be able to add little dots throughout the world :-).

The Top HQ will remain hidden elsewhere in the world, could be all the HQs combined or w/e :-P.

Anyways, if there are any small islands still unclaimed...maybe I can use one of those for an HQ for now. But I'm not a transfixed country, just an Organization. So yea..>.>

Hey, one more thing -

Actually, I was wondering if Dai Bere-Ketsueki could have their HQ stationed at Tristan da Cunha [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tristan_Map.png ].

I have an interesting way of sort of dual-RPing, the Council of the Tristan da Cunha Islands will remain pretty much silent and to it self, only relying on meager trade deals with the outside world but otherwise self reliant. DBB9 will have their own Buildings there on Special Permits, and the only real connection between the two entities is that the Blood Beret take part in training their Security Forces [On a small level].

Think that would be okay?
Well, you'd need to ask H-Town Tejas since he's the Map Mod as well as Brazil, since the original map I did was t3h ph4i1, srsly.:( The consolidation thread has a more current one IIRC... Anyway, using that Island you suggested (does the English title work OK?) should work; really I was just going with the line you quoted since Vetaka hasn't specified an HQ for the Grass Snakes and I figured you guys were similar-but-different, as they say.;)

Well, you'd need to ask H-Town Tejas since he's the Map Mod as well as Brazil, since the original map I did was t3h ph4i1, srsly.:( The consolidation thread has a more current one IIRC... Anyway, using that Island you suggested (does the English title work OK?) should work; really I was just going with the line you quoted since Vetaka hasn't specified an HQ for the Grass Snakes and I figured you guys were similar-but-different, as they say.;)

I'd like to make it clear that the Blood Beret aren't Terrorists, unlike their Armed Hippies cousin organization :-P.

There is, like his organization, a large hint of secrecy. The actual identity of those who perform missions and the such are not kept on open file, in fact are stored on 'off-line' computers. The Organization, if our Japan approves of it, originated out of Japan. They were founded by a group of ex-Japanese Special Forces and most of the members are such, some from the regular branches [Such as the Air Force]. They mainly attract those wishing to be a soldier, but with out any Lawful bounds other than that of International Law. So future members may vary from Brits, Chinese, Russians, and etcetera.

The idea of having the Three Island-Micro Nation become associated with the Blood Beret is that they benefit economically, but they them selves are no real power. They also get a free crash course in "How to defend your self", and in return some of their men are allowed to Enlist in the BB. So it is a Paramilitary force that works as Mercenaries, they have no racist or politic-racism, they are only equal opportunity soldiers of fortune.

So, I'm not going to randomly show up in your Nation's capital and blow up your children. I'm just here when your nation doesn't want to get directly involved in effing with another nation, or having to personally hunt down..say..terrorists?

I list all the SIC Missions for interest, but they are listed as if only my men can read it if they so chose to and have clearance. It's up there so people can affirm the legitimacy of, say, me blowing up some Nation's Nuclear Facilities because the majority of Nations or just one larger Nation feels threatened.

So, I don't have any qualms with listing a main HQ...I'm sort of thinking fast, which is why some posts ago I said "It'll be secret" to "Here it is!".

Anyways, I can give you a Global Position of the map. All H-Town has to do is make a microscopic dot, really. That'll represent the three little islands, which are no bigger than most cities, and y'all can know where to come bothering if you have any beef to settle.

>.>

So yea, all of this posted will be translated into IC Characterisms on my Pretend Site. Yay...

I really missed a lot, didn't I.

Aye, you guy seem to have been quite active since the last time I posted. Anyway, i'm just letting y'all know that i'm still here,; i've just been fairly busy IRL. Besides, I haven't had much to do anyway. :D

Hey possible first-client,

A certain green bird told me about a certain Prison perhaps with-in the Siberian Provinces was having a little...Prison Riot...

Maybe...you...er...would like to dump a few many Rubbles into my Accounts and my men be allowed special access into your nation to help? :-P.

Sry this is so late, Jolt decided to be JOLT at the absolute worst possible time: when I was replying to you and simultaneously so tired I risked falling asleep at my keyboard.:headbang: I actually meant for you to copy-paste your old posts into new ones in a thread you start (no need for more than ESS in the tagline) since I figured you'd have the better title idea for that than me. Besides, somebody else might want to do either of the islands since I've got enough fronts to keep track of off ESS at the moment (and possibly one more if some peace talks fail and I have to aid an ally of mine...). I can handle one, probably Ascension once I research it a bit more, but if AB or a volunteer could do Diego Garcia I'd appreciate it since really this is the first Multi-NPC war we've had yet...

Fine, I'll make the thread.

By which I mean, I'll write to everyone on Friday - I have my Semester Project due on Friday, and I still need to write what accounts for about 30% of my quarter grade. Sorry - and Cookesland, can that 2 hour thing beextended until Friday, please? I can't reply right now, sorry, and my day will be really full tomorrow.





actually i was going to ask you the same thing, im gone till friday

On the thing about super soldiers...

Since India is one of the worlds leaders in Genetic engineering that means sooner of later I may get paied for our expertese in this field *glee*

OH MY GOD...

I was typing, and I type way too fast and I hit shift backspace and suddenly my entire post I was making in my factbook evaporated into cyber air...


Then I kept going back and forth and AFGfdhfdaghdfahffgsh

--

I'm calm, just re-doing a big chunk of my factbook now -_-.

Hey possible first-client,

A certain green bird told me about a certain Prison perhaps with-in the Siberian Provinces was having a little...Prison Riot...

Maybe...you...er...would like to dump a few many Rubbles into my Accounts and my men be allowed special access into your nation to help? :-P.

Well, I was planning on keeping it small for now since Vateka is going to assist them later. When he comes in and the situation REALLY gets out of control, then we might call you.

Aye, you guy seem to have been quite active since the last time I posted. Anyway, i'm just letting y'all know that i'm still here,; i've just been fairly busy IRL. Besides, I haven't had much to do anyway. :D

Welcome back! To sum up events, Futuris organized a takeover of Tunisia, which the WEF tried and failed to prevent, now the WEF has just taken over Iceland by spending $10 billion on it (although it's quite confusing as the money is effectively in their control) and the South American conflict has started with a full Russia vs. Marx naval attack and a NAR assault on Mexico.

Also, a few new member have been inducted into the TA, and it's looking like possibly the strongest alliance currently.

I have a great idea for an RP, the Entente works together to try and find a way to break up the Third Alliance. It would be a very fun rp.

also Wagdog:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525146

Welcome back! To sum up events, Futuris organized a takeover of Tunisia, which the WEF tried and failed to prevent, now the WEF has just taken over Iceland by spending $10 billion on it (although it's quite confusing as the money is effectively in their control) and the South American conflict has started with a full Russia vs. Marx naval attack and a NAR assault on Mexico.

Also, a few new member have been inducted into the TA, and it's looking like possibly the strongest alliance currently.

And, we have me.

EDIT:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12583910#post12583910 Slightly updated.

I really need to post on Fusing the Spark...I'm planning on a huge air campaign against him to try to loosen the nations morale and damage as much stuff as possible. That way, peace may be negotiated without a ground invasion.

And, we have me.

EDIT:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12583910#post12583910 Slightly updated.

The UR might be interested in referring its ex-Spetsnaz and Naval Infantry forces to your PMC in exchange for you opening up offices in Moscow.

Psychotika, not sure if you've abandoned the plan, as you seem to have chosen the Tristan Isles, but, if you wish, you could be based in the GEACPS, as you showed interest in it earlier.

(Or I could simply offer you a base, so long as you keep reduced prices for me. :D )

Fine, I'll make the thread.
Thanks. Again, I have to hit work in a few minutes but I can at least handle Ascension when I get back tonight. AB, can you do Diego Garcia? Or a volunteer? They're really two separate micro-regimes and although I'd manage it if I absolutely had to, getting a second mod or volunteer is better RP by far and keeps headaches (in my case literal lately...:headbang:) or inactivity to a minimum.

Bahahaha, and popularity rises!

Yes, I will accept opening Offices in Moscow and a Base in Nihon.

In fact, I could open Offices in either Tokyo or Kyoto and a base near Okinawa or one in IndoChina.

Hmm...

I haven't sat up pricing, but I'd figure you'd be leasing the land to me to use lol.

I have a great idea for an RP, the Entente works together to try and find a way to break up the Third Alliance. It would be a very fun rp.

also Wagdog:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525146

Yeah it would be fun, how would you do it though, probably secret sabotage or a full assault on a nation that makes us divided or something would be best, though I'd certainly make sure it didn't work. I doubt there will be a full out alliance war with both alliances trying to disband each other, though there might be, and there is bound to be clashes, probably not full out wars, between the two major alliances in the possibly African/European conflicts that may soon unfold. And then at the end we can all kiss and make up when the NAR and three TA nations annex Australia. :p

I agree, he hasn't done anything.

I really need to post on Fusing the Spark...I'm planning on a huge air campaign against him to try to loosen the nations morale and damage as much stuff as possible. That way, peace may be negotiated without a ground invasion.

I'm planning on making use of that new Kitty Hawk Carrier Group I have in the pacific (well moving it towards Columbia along with its batlegroup) if he hasn't coptiulated by then maybe contact my naval command to work together on a "shock and awe" campaign?

I can do Diego Garcia, Wagdog.

Also, recommendation for everyone to comment on: I'm recommending China be evicted. Eri's never on ESS, and China's a world power. We seriously need someone there who's more active for such a big nation.

Marx, I may begin my campaign against you shortly...

I am keeping the Admiral Kuznetsov on station even though it is slightly damaged, and I am planning on sending one more Kuznetsov carrier down to assist. Not to mention some Oscar-II's for some cruise missile strikes.

Don't look at me for very much help in the Shock and Awe campaign. My military is being revamped right now, I still need to find a replacement for the Olifant.

I'm planning on making use of that new Kitty Hawk Carrier Group I have in the pacific (well moving it towards Columbia along with its batlegroup) if he hasn't coptiulated by then maybe contact my naval command to work together on a "shock and awe" campaign?

Some time warps going on :P

Anyway, I'd be willing to contribute a giant bomber force for some shock and awe. Send in a bunch of B-2s for stealth ops, then follow up with a wave of conventional bombers from all three nations?

Don't forget!!

We specialize in Covert Operations, such as Sabotage before you go into a battle or during.

Only thing you supply is the Payment, which that section will be completed later today, and if possible..uniforms, to blend in.

If you want some M1A2s, I'm all open for selling a bunch at "Alliance rates". I got Strykers coming out too now.

I'm interested, how much?

Don't look at me for very much help in the Shock and Awe campaign. My military is being revamped right now, I still need to find a replacement for the Olifant.

If you want some M1A2s, I'm all open for selling a bunch at "Alliance rates". I got Strykers coming out too now.

Don't forget!!

We specialize in Covert Operations, such as Sabotage before you go into a battle or during.

Only thing you supply is the Payment, which that section will be completed later today, and if possible..uniforms, to blend in.

I may need your services soon enough to take out fortifications on Cyprus, the Bahamas, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and Haiti/Dominican Republic when I begin my Expansionist Crusade.

Then again, I may just try to buy out the countries, or something more...innovative.

You know everyone, the UR is always happy to sell things...

I'm interested, how much?

They usually go for $10 million a pop, and production cost is $3.5 mil, but for the "Entente price", I'd lower the sale price to $6.7 mil a piece. That's two-thirds the price of a standard export version; a good deal (but I'm still making money, to justify it). For bulk purchase, I may go lower.

They usually go for $10 million a pop, and production cost is $3.5 mil, but for the "Entente price", I'd lower the sale price to $6.7 mil a piece. That's two-thirds the price of a standard export version; a good deal (but I'm still making money, to justify it). For bulk purchase, I may go lower.

I'd probably want to order around 750, possibly more, and we are willing to sell you our old Olifants for scrap, targets, whatever.

I may need your services soon enough to take out fortifications on Cyprus, the Bahamas, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and Haiti/Dominican Republic when I begin my Expansionist Crusade.

Then again, I may just try to buy out the countries, or something more...innovative.

Yes, but it is so much funner to just blow the whole mess up.

I may need your services soon enough to take out fortifications on Cyprus, the Bahamas, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and Haiti/Dominican Republic when I begin my Expansionist Crusade.

Then again, I may just try to buy out the countries, or something more...innovative.

Cyprus - and you say we are creeping up on you in relation to Iceland. There are currently plans for a joint GGA and WEF coalition on that area of Europe, and with me owning Greece and him owning Turkey if the plans to invade go ahead you trying to invade that area, which is basically in Europe, would be very, erm, unwelcome. Of course, that may be your plan to further increase tensions with Europe until they have to forcibly stop you.

I'll take that deal.

I dunno what parts of the Olifants could be used on a Saratoga, considering they are different vehicles. One being a tank and the other a Cruiser.

Yes, but it is so much funner to just blow the whole mess up.

Indeed. i'd rather attack them too (well, Cyprus I'll probaly try diplomacy, since it's pretty far away) just to utilize my army in a constant-activity role (keeps them on their toes that way).

Granate: I'd be willing to offer 800 at a total of $5.2 bil-that's less than one Kitty Hawk carrier I sold Animarnia for 800 tanks, each of which would be at $6.5 mil a pop.
I'd drop each by $.3 mil for the excess Olifants (I'll probaly reuse their components for my Saratoga cruisers and Decatur frigates).

Essentially, more than anything I want to build up the Entente's collective strength (Hello, Futuris! Guess what we can offer and will if you want to join us!) while still staying true to capitalism and making money.

Keep checking the Factbook, guys. I'm slowly updating it as I think of some crap to add in appropriately, I started on the Packaging list but it isn't much yet.

Hmm...

Also, the Organization accepts Military technology as payment.

Cyprus - and you say we are creeping up on you in relation to Iceland. There are currently plans for a joint GGA and WEF coalition on that area of Europe, and with me owning Greece and him owning Turkey if the plans to invade go ahead you trying to invade that area, which is basically in Europe, would be very, erm, unwelcome. Of course, that may be your plan to further increase tensions with Europe until they have to forcibly stop you.

It's all playing politics!

Anyway, the Entente needs a Mediterranean hold (Futuris hasn't fully commited to us yet, if I understood...though my last post must be somewhat inviting) and Cyprus so far isn't getting any attention. If more justification is needed, I can say I need to get a foothold to help ensure the sovereignty of Futuris's Israeli holds after the "Unrestricted expansion of the Third Alliance" when you grab Estereich's possessions. You can contest that, but that gives me the diplomatic smiley-face.

The PPF (Portuguese Peoples Front) would welcome you into Lisbon to set up a base for Europe – that is if you want to work with a non-government endorsed organization. They are basically fighting for equal rights for Portuguese people, as in my ESS WEF is very money minded, and if you have none, like most citizens in ESS Portugal don’t, you are sometimes discriminated at in society and they feel as if they haven't been given enough opportunities to run for the pro-capitalist government etc. Most of the stuff they preach is high exaggerated, but the WEF is quite corrupt.

So you mean deal with Social Revolutionaries? Or, help provide a Security Task Force to keep the Economic Discrimination from harming people and the such..hmm

Okay. But I think that'd make your own self have an excuse to be Politically against my existence, even though there is no Political branch of the Organization...yet.

Don't forget!!

We specialize in Covert Operations, such as Sabotage before you go into a battle or during.

Only thing you supply is the Payment, which that section will be completed later today, and if possible..uniforms, to blend in.

The PPF (Portuguese Peoples Front) would welcome you into Lisbon to set up a base for Europe – that is if you want to work with a non-government endorsed organization. They are basically fighting for equal rights for Portuguese people, as in my ESS WEF is very money minded, and if you have none, like most citizens in ESS Portugal don’t, you are sometimes discriminated at in society and they feel as if they haven't been given enough opportunities to run for the pro-capitalist government etc. Most of the stuff they preach is highly exaggerated, but the WEF is quite corrupt.

Keep checking the Factbook, guys. I'm slowly updating it as I think of some crap to add in appropriately, I started on the Packaging list but it isn't much yet.

Hmm...

Also, the Organization accepts Military technology as payment.

I could do a lot for you with that last part...I'm full of new and improved military tech. My whole line of navy is getting revamped, the infantry's getting a bunch of new guns (XM8 just rolled out, XM29 will be soon), and the air force will be recieving some new shiny stuff too.

It's all playing politics!

Anyway, the Entente needs a Mediterranean hold (Futuris hasn't fully commited to us yet, if I understood...though my last post must be somewhat inviting) and Cyprus so far isn't getting any attention. If more justification is needed, I can say I need to get a foothold to help ensure the sovereignty of Futuris's Israeli holds after the "Unrestricted expansion of the Third Alliance" when you grab Estereich's possessions. You can contest that, but that gives me the diplomatic smiley-face.

Your good at politics and that would put us in a bad situation :p As long as nothing major happens on the island and it was all either brought or diplomatically persuaded to join you we wouldn't attack you and force you out - though it certainly would make relations worse as we would strongly oppose you and keep a close eye on Cyprus in Turkey (well GGA will there) and Crete I'm sure - if we ever get them.

Your good at politics and that would put us in a bad situation :p As long as nothing major happens on the island and it was all either brought or diplomatically persuaded to join you we wouldn't attack you and force you out - though it certainly would make relations worse as we would strongly oppose you and keep a close eye on Cyprus in Turkey (well GGA will there) and Crete I'm sure - if we ever get them.

Heh, there will be a lot of eye watching. Cyprus I'm going to try and get through diplomatic means (and if they decline, then OMI will make them see the light).

We can watch each other mutually...and then aliens will come from the sky!

I could do a lot for you with that last part...I'm full of new and improved military tech. My whole line of navy is getting revamped, the infantry's getting a bunch of new guns (XM8 just rolled out, XM29 will be soon), and the air force will be recieving some new shiny stuff too.

Sure, in a way I feel as if you are talking near absorption by means of giving me pretties :-P.

I'm always glad to take a few shipments of M4A1s, M1A2s, and F-14s/F-16s off your hands.

The Current Air Fleet and such is being revised/put together, but basically the Air Fleet is really small.

1x C-130 Hercules
7x F-4E Phantoms [Up-to-date, and highly skilled pilots.]
1x F-18 [There is history behind it; not really legally ours :-P.]
2x F-16 [The top-two Pilots are given these.]

Maintenance and such is easily covered, I'll be doing 'NPC' Missions if no body minds. IE - Some Peace Corps needs some body guards, or etc. I hope to really re-vamp the Small-Organization thing that exists in our real world.

The Navy is tiny, of course. Blood Beret are allowed use of the Tristanian Navy, which is mostly Patrol boats out of the Vietnam/Korea Era. However, there are two modern Patrol boats.

RENTING 3x General Class Patrol Boat [Late 50s through Late 60s Era]
1x Ocean-weary Patrol Boat [Modern; this boat is used to go to the near-by Continents.]

The Navy of Tristan is pretty decent, well sort of. They have a lot of trade vessels that deliver Craw Fish [IRL] to East Asian countries mainly. So if Japan is fine with it, that entity and GEACPS could have a little trade treaty.

As far as Infantry Equipment goes, I figured the use of the famed MP-5 and G-36 and Sig Sauer Series would be fine, which I've been using. There are variable sniper rifles, which will be listed in due time, so yea.

Hmm...this is a long post.

I want F-14s. My air-force only has JAS Gripen 39s and we don't produce that many of them.

Not absorption, just a bunch of good stuff that'll make you the premier mercenary group in the world in exchange for the occassional "cut".

My government's very twisted in its roots, so my deals are a bit...dangerous. It'd be better for them if you were well-equipped.

If you want F-14s, I've got tons. I just retired the line from active service in the ORN.

Heh, just like the USN.

Well, the core amount of men I have got [Officially] is 73 Able for Combat. I'm going to update that really soon, as the website is assumed to be 'Live' in the ESS World.

Also, with the offer Candistan made, I should be receiving some highly skilled retired Spetz and the likes.

Appropriately, the numbers should significantly rise to about...

327 Officially, potentially a few hundred or so more. By the end of tommorow night, it should be nearing the 1,000 mark being that there will be a base [Hopefully] near Okinawa and the Offices in Moscow should be allowed to get some advertisement going.

I'm also thinking about lowering the age to 23, rather than 27, in the requirements list. So my numbers sound too small to my self, it depends...I'll have it fully updated tommorow.

So, the weapons and the shiny tech will be deeply appreciated and helpful. And, yes, the Organization will consider it self in your debt.

Oh, you can have the whole batch if you want (I may keep a few dozen for testing new stuff, but besides that...). For a small fee, of course. Production cost per unit is $38 mil, but they're good fighters-I'd probaly offer a $43 mil "Alliance price" and a $47 mil "Everyone else price". Get a batch of Phoenix missiles with 'em to really get a good buy.

When the Kitty Hawk gets retired (it'll be soon-I don't want any non-nuke carriers, and I already sold Animarnia my other two of the class), I'll probaly offer them up (They'll be open market, but of course, I may have preferences).

I'm probaly going to start a "Market Thread" soon enough to start open sales and purchases between countries for trade, deals, what have you.

Sweet

I want F-14s. My air-force only has JAS Gripen 39s and we don't produce that many of them.

Oh, you can have the whole batch if you want (I may keep a few dozen for testing new stuff, but besides that...). For a small fee, of course. Production cost per unit is $38 mil, but they're good fighters-I'd probaly offer a $43 mil "Alliance price" and a $47 mil "Everyone else price". Get a batch of Phoenix missiles with 'em to really get a good buy.

When the Kitty Hawk gets retired (it'll be soon-I don't want any non-nuke carriers, and I already sold Animarnia my other two of the class), I'll probaly offer them up (They'll be open market, but of course, I may have preferences).

I'm probaly going to start a "Market Thread" soon enough to start open sales and purchases between countries for trade, deals, what have you.

Heh, just like the USN.

Well, the core amount of men I have got [Officially] is 73 Able for Combat. I'm going to update that really soon, as the website is assumed to be 'Live' in the ESS World.

Also, with the offer Candistan made, I should be receiving some highly skilled retired Spetz and the likes.

Appropriately, the numbers should significantly rise to about...

327 Officially, potentially a few hundred or so more. By the end of tommorow night, it should be nearing the 1,000 mark being that there will be a base [Hopefully] near Okinawa and the Offices in Moscow should be allowed to get some advertisement going.

I'm also thinking about lowering the age to 23, rather than 27, in the requirements list. So my numbers sound too small to my self, it depends...I'll have it fully updated tommorow.

So, the weapons and the shiny tech will be deeply appreciated and helpful. And, yes, the Organization will consider it self in your debt.

If you want, I'd be open to opening offices for your group in Havana or Quebec (not the best in my country, but essentially they're the cities I care the least about, 'specially since Quebec tried to revolt against Canada in the '80s in my timeline).

Well, the more Offices the better.

The objective is not to entice any rebellion, there is no real Political standing at all. If there is a means for protection, we shall provide it. That's about the only Politicalness that's involved.

Anyways, Offices in Havana sounds nice. If it's okay with you, though, it'd be nice if there were Offices in both. They're real purpose is to serve as a check in point, for those who have applied online or over the phone or who wish to apply in person. So yea..

hmm..

The Navy of Tristan is pretty decent, well sort of. They have a lot of trade vessels that deliver Craw Fish [IRL] to East Asian countries mainly. So if Japan is fine with it, that entity and GEACPS could have a little trade treaty.

We could certainly work one out.

Well, the more Offices the better.

The objective is not to entice any rebellion, there is no real Political standing at all. If there is a means for protection, we shall provide it. That's about the only Politicalness that's involved.

Anyways, Offices in Havana sounds nice. If it's okay with you, though, it'd be nice if there were Offices in both. They're real purpose is to serve as a check in point, for those who have applied online or over the phone or who wish to apply in person. So yea..

hmm..

You could open up an Office in my Capital of Pretoria.

Well, the more Offices the better.

The objective is not to entice any rebellion, there is no real Political standing at all. If there is a means for protection, we shall provide it. That's about the only Politicalness that's involved.

Anyways, Offices in Havana sounds nice. If it's okay with you, though, it'd be nice if there were Offices in both. They're real purpose is to serve as a check in point, for those who have applied online or over the phone or who wish to apply in person. So yea..

hmm..

Both sounds good to me, 'specially cause Havana is full of Cubans (naturally), who are a big ethnic minority.

Well I'm getting off for now, have to get some push ups in...

Then off to enjoy my meager social life ! lol..

[BTW I'm joining the US Army, yea..that's why I keep doing push ups and sit ups, >.>]

so im almost finished with my 1st war post. It should be up by this time tommorow

beware KoE - im coming for you

somebody TG him just in case

Hey, whoever owns France..

Do you want to talk about making Brittany a protectorate? I think that'd be pretty fun, you'd still own it but it'd be sort of it's own semi-Government.

If not, then damn..>.>

But that'd be pretty cool if you could do that.

Hey, whoever owns France..

Do you want to talk about making Brittany a protectorate? I think that'd be pretty fun, you'd still own it but it'd be sort of it's own semi-Government.

If not, then damn..>.>

But that'd be pretty cool if you could do that.

If that doesn't open up, once I finish up with my conquests, I'd let you run Cyprus, Jamaica, or the Dominican Republic or Haiti like that if you wanted to. I'm open for new ideas.

Hey, whoever owns France..

Do you want to talk about making Brittany a protectorate? I think that'd be pretty fun, you'd still own it but it'd be sort of it's own semi-Government.

If not, then damn..>.>

But that'd be pretty cool if you could do that.

that would prbly be fine. But we need to know what country you would be.

Oh, you can have the whole batch if you want (I may keep a few dozen for testing new stuff, but besides that...). For a small fee, of course. Production cost per unit is $38 mil, but they're good fighters-I'd probaly offer a $43 mil "Alliance price" and a $47 mil "Everyone else price". Get a batch of Phoenix missiles with 'em to really get a good buy.

When the Kitty Hawk gets retired (it'll be soon-I don't want any non-nuke carriers, and I already sold Animarnia my other two of the class), I'll probaly offer them up (They'll be open market, but of course, I may have preferences).

I'm probaly going to start a "Market Thread" soon enough to start open sales and purchases between countries for trade, deals, what have you.


Granate: I'd be willing to offer 800 at a total of $5.2 bil-that's less than one Kitty Hawk carrier I sold Animarnia for 800 tanks, each of which would be at $6.5 mil a pop.
I'd drop each by $.3 mil for the excess Olifants (I'll probaly reuse their components for my Saratoga cruisers and Decatur frigates).


So what am I looking at here?

I want at least 36 F-14s, possibly 48, mostly for the Airbases on Diego Garcia and Ascension and I am getting a deal 800 M1A2 Abrams tanks, but I am giving you my 500 Olifant II tanks.

I just dropped some specifications on the Oka Nieba. I tried to make it as realistic as possible.

Oh, BTW, I just saw Eralineta was on and is posting in one of his threads, so if we want to see if he is still in this, someone should ask him.

Yeah, that's why we should ask him. If he's out then we can open up CHina for new RPers.

Oh, BTW, I just saw Eralineta was on and is posting in one of his threads, so if we want to see if he is still in this, someone should ask him.

hes on a lot, just never in ESS

Here's the G7MH Mobile Howitzer.

General Characteristics:
Crew: 4 (Commander, Loader, Gunner, and Driver)
Length: 6.7m without gun, 8.9 with gun.
Width: 2.9m
Height: 2.9m
Weight: 16.76 tons airlift mode, 17.98 combat mode.
Armour: 12mm Steel and Aluminum armor
Main Armament: 105mm Denel G7 Howitzer
Secondary Armament: Vektor SS-77 5.56 LMG
Powerplant: 435hp diesel engine
Suspension: 6x6 Wheeled
Road Speed: 75km
Cross-Country Speed: 45km
Power/Weight Ratio: 25.2 hp/ton
Range: 500km.

I haven't gotten to the write up yet, but it retains most of the G7s range of 32kms.

To make the Oka Nieba less cheap, I decided that it can only perform two full barrage drops of the internal bays before a resupply is needed. The internal bays are solely for the GKEB Rods (which I plan on using sparingly) and the 200kt Warheads (Which, once again, I would only use in a retalitory strike or imminent threat of the homeland such as an invasion reaching deep in my territory). The external hardpoints are for the various ASATs kept for Space-to-Space combat.

*Note: Space-to-Space combat will probably be used vs. the aliens, not so much against humans.

Anybody in the Entente that is interested in the G7MH. Hell, it's gonna be quite cheap at around 1.5 mil per system. It costs me only, rough estimate, 1.25 mil to manufacture them, so you're getting a good deal.

Would it be possible for the UR to do a joint development program for a new SPG for the URA? Using the G7MH Chassis but a different turret and gun?

Would it be possible for the UR to do a joint development program for a new SPG for the URA? Using the G7MH Chassis but a different turret and gun?

The G7MH uses a modified, heavily I might add, Rooikat Chassis. Basically I cut off the first two wheels of the Rooikat and modified the stats a little here and there.

This was also designed to be very, very light. If you want a big SPG, go for the BTR-80 Chassis.

The G7MH uses a modified, heavily I might add, Rooikat Chassis. Basically I cut off the first two wheels of the Rooikat and modified the stats a little here and there.

This was also designed to be very, very light. If you want a big SPG, go for a BMP Chassis.

Okay, thanks. Anyways, with the GGA hell bent on attacking the KoE, I had a plan for the region of that nation near me. I am going for the Caucasus nations for sure, with the possibility of part of North Turkey. The Bosphorus would be nice to have, but I know that that is unfeasable at the moment...or maybe not. I was planning on turning the Caucasus into two separate Autonomous Republics inside the Union, the first being a Georgio-Armenian, the other being Azeri.

I can do Diego Garcia, Wagdog.

Also, recommendation for everyone to comment on: I'm recommending China be evicted. Eri's never on ESS, and China's a world power. We seriously need someone there who's more active for such a big nation.

Marx, I may begin my campaign against you shortly...
Thanks. I should TG Eri and Erstereich now, although I'm half wondering if I should just void the latter's claim now since they've not responded to my TG and haven't posted anything. Eralineta I think did something, although I have yet to find it...:headbang:
Anyway, an Ascension post is inbound shortly before I hit the sack. I'm feeling much better than this time last night, and my off-ESS RP situation's vastly calmer at present even if precarious.

Eralineta has posted numerous tiems tonite in a thread that has been right next to ours on the top of the page. You might as well void it since he has most likely lost all interest in the RP.

This is what I plan to claim in the 'big' European invasion...basically the Kingdom Of Yugoslavia's states and Greece of KoE. Then I think GGA wants Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria and some Middle Eastern countries - and probably the area that Russia wants too, which could make an interesting conflict, even if not by force.

If anyone has any of the claims which I plan to invade who is my ally say. I'll TG the guy who owns them to ask him if he wants to resist, if there is no reply by the time Kampfers starts to invade - someone will have to play some resistance at least, I can't take over it all through my diplomacy.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5813/europepoliticalsmallpo3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: He actaully comes on quite a lot..I'll see if he notices.

All I have to say on the China situation is this: If Eralineta voids his claim, I am so taking Inner Mongolia back. And maybe Manchuria, too, if I can get away with it.

Despite the obvious advantage i'd get from that, I still think we oughta give him a chance to come on back. He hasn't done much, sure, but I like the isolationist angle he's playing with, as it means one less gigantic superpower knocking at my door. :D

I actually have a pretty good plan to take the Bosphorous, and I am hoping to use that when the invasion starts.

All I have to say on the China situation is this: If Eralineta voids his claim, I am so taking Inner Mongolia back. And maybe Manchuria, too, if I can get away with it.

Despite the obvious advantage i'd get from that, I still think we oughta give him a chance to come on back. He hasn't done much, sure, but I like the isolationist angle he's playing with, as it means one less gigantic superpower knocking at my door. :D
I'll TG him and Erstereich now. RLY, this is their last chance; so let's wait ppl.:rolleyes: If they don't respond by the end of today, I officially kick them and then we can RP out the claims as agaisnt NPCs after all.

By the way, Animarnia, i've decided go ahead and buy some military equipment from you; I placed the order on my factbook page, in reply to your original message. If you want me to move the order to a different IC thread, I can do that. Just a heads-up, there.

Oh, and Northern China will soon be mine! Kind of. *evil plotting*

By the way, Animarnia, i've decided go ahead and buy some military equipment from you; I placed the order on my factbook page, in reply to your original message. If you want me to move the order to a different IC thread, I can do that. Just a heads-up, there.

Oh, and Northern China will soon be mine! Kind of. *evil plotting*

Don't be so sure. It'd be you against all of China. I wouldn't like those odds.

Don't be so sure. It'd be you against all of China. I wouldn't like those odds.
Even worse, all of china with me controlling it if Eralineta doesn't hurry up and defend his claim by tonight.:p Check the Kazakhstan thread to see why that falls well into what is known as The Bad Things Category, and take into account that I was fighting there as a minor power under severe logistical and numbers disadvantages; problems that largely go bye-bye If I play China's NPC forces...

Hmm, if that guy with a lot of Eurasian crap doesn't show up I could RP his Defenses/Dump Bere-Ketsueki and become him as the name "Eurasian Federation" and beat the hell out of Honako because I'm probably actually a better Tactician/Strategist >.>...

Hmm, if that guy with a lot of Eurasian crap doesn't show up I could RP his Defenses/Dump Bere-Ketsueki and become him as the name "Eurasian Federation" and beat the hell out of Honako because I'm probably actually a better Tactician/Strategist >.>...

GGA is the one who wants the Euroasia countries. The guy who I'm trying to invade is quite active so you won't be needed probably, but the one the GGA is after isn't so someone needs to RP his forces.

Even worse, all of china with me controlling it if Eralineta doesn't hurry up and defend his claim by tonight.:p Check the Kazakhstan thread to see why that falls well into what is known as The Bad Things Category, and take into account that I was fighting there as a minor power under severe logistical and numbers disadvantages; problems that largely go bye-bye If I play China's NPC forces...

Maybe China could be divided between the Asian countries - could be the source of an Asian conflict.

Maybe China could be divided between the Asian countries - could be the source of an Asian conflict.
No can do. Once a country's RP interacted or gotten its factbook up, any claims beyond the original need to be RPed; aside from maybe a few VERY particular exceptions I don't quite remember making except that they might conceivably have been made.:rolleyes: Last I checked, all the relevant nations have fixed their territories, although if everybody decided to beat on China DPW would have an easier time...:p

GGA is the one who wants the Euroasia countries. The guy who I'm trying to invade is quite active so you won't be needed probably, but the one the GGA is after isn't so someone needs to RP his forces.

Well if what's his Eurasian Face doesn't respond, or come back to say he is active and prove it, I wouldn't mind becoming his nation and dumping my Blood Beret Project.

No can do. Once a country's RP interacted or gotten its factbook up, any claims beyond the original need to be RPed; aside from maybe a few VERY particular exceptions I don't quite remember making except that they might conceivably have been made.:rolleyes: Last I checked, all the relevant nations have fixed their territories, although if everybody decided to beat on China DPW would have an easier time...:p

I meant RP it - you know, with say Mongolia coming in from the North, you from the south etc. fighting between your troops, and eventually an uneasy terrority divided into three different states ruled by different countries that regularly clashed.

Well if what's his Eurasian Face doesn't respond, or come back to say he is active and prove it, I wouldn't mind becoming his nation and dumping my Blood Beret Project.

I wouldn't oppose even if it interferes with our plans a bit and I liked the idea of the Blood Beret thing - though your first job as leader of those countries might be to fend off an invasion! :p The GGA by the way are basically the Central European and Northern European countries.

I wouldn't oppose even if it interferes with our plans a bit and I liked the idea of the Blood Beret thing - though your first job as leader of those countries might be to fend off an invasion! :p The GGA by the way are basically the Central European and Northern European countries.

I was actually planning on being an ass hole, pushing Russia up past Chechnya to about where it borders the Ukraine and force him into a Cease Fire, whilest the same time having an all European Army march into your wanted Yugoslavian territories from the south. Also, to piss off the North Americans, take Cyprus eventually. After all is good and done, expand accordingly [IE - Iran, Saudi Arabia & Co, Rich part of Egypt...Watch out!!]

Trust me, I'm a mad man. Don't even try to convince me otherwise, besides...you all have to be respectful >.> I'm going into the Services! Bwahahaha....

EDIT: The Russian thing because I believe somewhere he said he wanted the Caucuses Region...hmm...

Well, you'll be amazed at what I can pull off.

Trust me, I've had much worst...

A 2 Billion Populated China
7 Billion Populated Alliance
750 Million Populated Colonial Empire

This is just a cake walk for me :-P.

I was actually planning on being an ass hole, pushing Russia up past Chechnya to about where it borders the Ukraine and force him into a Cease Fire, whilest the same time having an all European Army march into your wanted Yugoslavian territories from the south. Also, to piss off the North Americans, take Cyprus eventually. After all is good and done, expand accordingly [IE - Iran, Saudi Arabia & Co, Rich part of Egypt...Watch out!!]

Trust me, I'm a mad man. Don't even try to convince me otherwise, besides...you all have to be respectful >.> I'm going into the Services! Bwahahaha....

Well, that would be a very interesting way to piss off the four most powerful alliances of nations in ESS (Russia, NAR, WEF, GGA) :p I won't try and convince you otherwise, though I'm kinda hoping you ditch this mass invasion project and stick with the Blood Berets :rolleyes:, but this could see you have more than the GGA trying to invade you if you did manage to get these countries...

Trust me, I've had much worst...

A 2 Billion Populated China
7 Billion Populated Alliance
750 Million Populated Colonial Empire

This is just a cake walk for me :-P.

AHH TIME WARP!

Anyways, did the population [first part of a factbook] and combined -

180,691,688

Yarb.

I meant RP it - you know, with say Mongolia coming in from the North, you from the south etc. fighting between your troops, and eventually an uneasy terrority divided into three different states ruled by different countries that regularly clashed.

Heck, y'all can have the rest of China, I just want Inner Mongolia. The way I foresee it, if the government of Eralineta's China was to fall, the country would probably break up into warlord-ruled states (if history is any guide, seeing as how it's happened before, like after the fall of the Ch'ing Dynasty, for example). It wouldn't be too hard, then, to bring Inner Mongolia into the fold, though there would inevitably be armed opposition from the Han Chinese living in the area. Otherwise, i'd want to keep China intact, as most Mongolians have an immense respect for Chinese culture and civilization - hell, when they conquered China, they basically turned into Chinese! :P Of course, if Eralineta's still in this, then never mind on all that, but yeah.

Heck, y'all can have the rest of China, I just want Inner Mongolia. The way I foresee it, if the government of Eralineta's China was to fall, the country would probably break up into warlord-ruled states (if history is any guide, seeing as how it's happened before, like after the fall of the Ch'ing Dynasty, for example). It wouldn't be too hard, then, to bring Inner Mongolia into the fold, though there would inevitably be armed opposition from the Han Chinese living in the area. Otherwise, i'd want to keep China intact, as most Mongolians have an immense respect for Chinese culture and civilization - hell, when they conquered China, they basically turned into Chinese! :P Of course, if Eralineta's still in this, then never mind on all that, but yeah.

Pyschotika, you'll have to wait a) for Wagdog approval of your crazy land grabbing empire, meant in no disrespectful way - as by what you've said that's what it is! :p and b) to see if it's orginal owner responds by tonight.

Anyway, to Drunken Pagan Weirdos, the WEF have no plans to get involved in the China situation if there is one - though I kinda hope that it's spilt because say if Japan got it soley, well, it would be very unfair on the world as the then they would become even more powerful, and the same applies to a few other major Asian countries.

Pyschotika, you'll have to wait a) for Wagdog approval of your crazy land grabbing empire, meant in no disrespectful way - as by what you've said that's what it is! :p and b) to see if it's orginal owner responds by tonight.

Anyway, to Drunken Pagan Weirdos, the WEF have no plans to get involved in the China situation if there is one - though I kinda hope that it's spilt because say if Japan got it soley, well, it would be very unfair on the world as the then they would become even more powerful, and the same applies to a few other major Asian countries.

I know...and honestly, the whole reason why I would want to be a Nation is to provide some stability -

Being an unaligned Federation of Eurasian Countries with the sole purpose to try and co-exist internally while trying to remain neutral externally, and having the ability to show some Military ingenuity when it comes to being attacked.

I even said it my self - Unless the one guy doesn't respond, then I would like to have the land and I'll dump the whole Bere-ketsueki thing :-P.

Anyway, to Drunken Pagan Weirdos, the WEF have no plans to get involved in the China situation if there is one - though I kinda hope that it's spilt because say if Japan got it soley, well, it would be very unfair on the world as the then they would become even more powerful, and the same applies to a few other major Asian countries.

Of course, I think it would be perfectly fair. :p

No, actually, I wouldn't want the whole thing, too hard to control. I'd just want the coast, where the money is. :D

Not to mention, it would connect my "co-prosperity sphere."

Heck, y'all can have the rest of China, I just want Inner Mongolia. The way I foresee it, if the government of Eralineta's China was to fall, the country would probably break up into warlord-ruled states (if history is any guide, seeing as how it's happened before, like after the fall of the Ch'ing Dynasty, for example). It wouldn't be too hard, then, to bring Inner Mongolia into the fold, though there would inevitably be armed opposition from the Han Chinese living in the area. Otherwise, i'd want to keep China intact, as most Mongolians have an immense respect for Chinese culture and civilization - hell, when they conquered China, they basically turned into Chinese! :P Of course, if Eralineta's still in this, then never mind on all that, but yeah.

DPW: replied to your arms deal :)

Corbournne;12587083']No, actually, I wouldn't want the whole thing, too hard to control. I'd just want the coast, where the money is. :D

Not to mention, it would connect my "co-prosperity sphere."

Planning on adding Manchukuo and Nanjing into the fold, eh? Not if I get there first. :D

Nah, in all seriousness, I think we could broker out a deal that would leave all parties satisfied.

How about we leave china open for new RPers instead of nabbing it all.

Planning on adding Manchukuo and Nanjing into the fold, eh? Not if I get there first. :D

Nah, in all seriousness, I think we could broker out a deal that would leave all parties satisfied.

Candistan, if I'm honest I think someone coming in now and claiming somewhere as big as China wouldn't really go well..I dunno why.

Drunken Pagan Weirdos - I just saw that price you paid for weapons, and realized that's over half your GDP! I know nothing about arms, so I hope there really good...I'm sure I could have got you some for cheaper, but then again, they may be much better than ones Western Europe has. I'm sure we could give you some aid as otherwise you may be a bit, erm, stuck for cash.

How about we leave china open for new RPers instead of nabbing it all.

Yea, and theres the fact that China could probably whoop both of them. Give a nationality, even divided as the chinese are, a common foe. Whoa, suddenly all internal struggles are forgotten and they kill whoever fucked with them. They might even use their nukes if they had to.

So basically, you're idea of breaking up China wouldn't work. It'd just overwhelm you with Troops and Tanks, while threatening to use nukes if you gain an advantage. Yea, it's not pretty.

Drunken Pagan Weirdos - I just saw that price you paid for weapons, and realized that's over half your GDP! I know nothing about arms, so I hope there really good...I'm sure I could have got you some for cheaper, but then again, they may be much better than ones Western Europe has. I'm sure we could give you some aid as otherwise you may be a bit, erm, stuck for cash.

Haha, yeah, I kinda panicked as well. The problem is, I know nothing about arms either; i'm RPing the Mongolian government as knowing next to nothing about the newest military technology as well, so if I get duped, oh well, i've learned something new and won't do it again next time. From what i've read, however, the stuff I bought is supposed to be at least on-par with what Europe or Russia has, and quite mobile to boot (which is what I need, after all, more than anything else).

And, um, yeah, I think i'm gonna be strapped for cash. That makes it even more imperative that I get money through invasion or something. :P

As I said in my factbook thread, if I did anything that can be construed as improper in this transaction, just tell me and i'll fix it. I can choose to divert humongous amounts of cash to the military without protests from other sections due to my semi-autocratic system of government, but it only goes so far.

EDIT: Hmmm... maybe I should've asked for a second opinion on the price and all... ah, too late now, I guess.

Yea, and theres the fact that China could probably whoop both of them. Give a nationality, even divided as the chinese are, a common foe. Whoa, suddenly all internal struggles are forgotten and they kill whoever fucked with them. They might even use their nukes if they had to.

So basically, you're idea of breaking up China wouldn't work. It'd just overwhelm you with Troops and Tanks, while threatening to use nukes if you gain an advantage. Yea, it's not pretty.

Two things:

1. The second-largest nationality in the place i'd claim is Mongolian anyway, the culture is Mongolian, etc. The PRC government has a policy of sending large amounts of ethnic Han Chinese to live in regions such as Inner Mongolia or Tibet to pacify calls for independence, but I might be able to work something out all the same.

2. I don't know how we'd RP what happens to China if Eralineta is out, but i'm assuming that, basically, the government collapses. This would make it quite simple to snatch a region or two while the government's successors are squabbling for power. The hard part would be holding onto the land grabbed after China's re-unified. That's why it might not be a bad idea to strike quickly and separate the nation before it unifies again.

If we're keeping the current IC government in power anyway, though, then yeah, it would be quite difficult to hurt China. And the nukes are a wild card, either way. Just some thoughts there.

Haha, yeah, I kinda panicked as well. The problem is, I know nothing about arms either; i'm RPing the Mongolian government as knowing next to nothing about the newest military technology as well, so if I get duped, oh well, i've learned something new and won't do it again next time. From what i've read, however, the stuff I bought is supposed to be at least on-par with what Europe or Russia has, and quite mobile to boot (which is what I need, after all, more than anything else).

And, um, yeah, I think i'm gonna be strapped for cash. That makes it even more imperative that I get money through invasion or something. :P

As I said in my factbook thread, if I did anything that can be construed as improper in this transaction, just tell me and i'll fix it. I can choose to divert humongous amounts of cash to the military without protests from other sections due to my semi-autocratic system of government, but it only goes so far.

EDIT: Hmmm... maybe I should've asked for a second opinion on the price and all... ah, too late now, I guess.

Well, when I get round to posting in my factbook in answer to your post, I might offer you $1 billion aid or something as a gift. ;)

Two things:

1. The second-largest nationality in the place i'd claim is Mongolian anyway, the culture is Mongolian, etc. The PRC government has a policy of sending large amounts of ethnic Han Chinese to live in regions such as Inner Mongolia or Tibet to pacify calls for independence, but I might be able to work something out all the same.

2. I don't know how we'd RP what happens to China if Eralineta is out, but i'm assuming that, basically, the government collapses. This would make it quite simple to snatch a region or two while the government's successors are squabbling for power. The hard part would be holding onto the land grabbed after China's re-unified. That's why it might not be a bad idea to strike quickly and separate the nation before it unifies again.

If we're keeping the current IC government in power anyway, though, then yeah, it would be quite difficult to hurt China. And the nukes are a wild card, either way. Just some thoughts there.

Problem, show them a common enemy, be it you or Japan, and they'll stop fighting. And even if they didn't, you'd think the Massive Chinese Military would actually let you try and do that? Hell, I'd think they'd immediately seize power and stop you.

Problem, show them a common enemy, be it you or Japan, and they'll stop fighting. And even if they didn't, you'd think the Massive Chinese Military would actually let you try and do that? Hell, I'd think they'd immediately seize power and stop you.

You mean they'd unify like they did back in the 30's and 40's, when Japan was knocking on their front door? :D Of course, I doubt that there would be someone as dumb as Chiang Kai-shek in control this time around, but still, you get the point. I'm not saying that invasion would be a cakewalk by any means, but the big Chinese army might just be too busy dividing and killing one other to focus on foreign invaders. It might darn near turn in a proxy war, with puppet governments directed by outsiders fighting one another for control of the nation.

Or they could unify and boot my ass out of the country, and all of my carefully-laid plans would come to naught. Let's hope that doesn't happen, eh?. *big grin* I'm not saying that i'm going to stage a massive invasion of China, and i'm not planning anything IC. I'm just having fun speculating, at this point.

So what am I looking at here?

I want at least 36 F-14s, possibly 48, mostly for the Airbases on Diego Garcia and Ascension and I am getting a deal 800 M1A2 Abrams tanks, but I am giving you my 500 Olifant II tanks.

For the Abrams-for-Olifants deal, you'll pay a mere $4.96 billion.

For the 48 F-14s (I've got a total of 300+ in reserve), the price would be $2.064 billion. If you want Phoenix missiles too, I can throw that in for a small additional fee.

Of course, there are all at Alliance prices, which is considerably less than general sale prices (Hint hint, Futuris :P).


Psychotika: If you invaded Russia, you'd be on the recieving end of a whole lotta American bombs and cruise missiles. The Entente may be smaller than the TA right now, but it's tighter and actually is still probaly stronger militarily and politically. I think with the GEACPS part of the TA now, the TA is slightly economically stronger. Take out the GEACPS and it goes back to the Entente.

Yea, and theres the fact that China could probably whoop both of them. Give a nationality, even divided as the chinese are, a common foe. Whoa, suddenly all internal struggles are forgotten and they kill whoever fucked with them. They might even use their nukes if they had to.

So basically, you're idea of breaking up China wouldn't work. It'd just overwhelm you with Troops and Tanks, while threatening to use nukes if you gain an advantage. Yea, it's not pretty.

Personally, I agree with Honako on the situation of a new player coming in and claiming China. Anyway, if they were a good enough Rper, they could claim it anyway while it would be at war with us, since I wouldn't intend it to be a short conquest.

I think sometime before you joined we agreed on a "no-nuke" thing. Not sure if that applies to NPC nations, though. I agree with you on the fact that they could whoop us, but not necessarily "probably."My military is larger than China's in RL, so, even with recruits, I doubt they'd "overwhelm" us.

Also, I'd like to add that the Japanese won the First Sino-Japanese War despite being outnumbered. Just as that Japan's technology was greater than the Qing Dynasty's, mine is greater than the PRC's. Not to mention, with my control of Indo-China, Mongolia (with my support) and I could attack them from three fronts. (And if Psychotika's pending nation joins in, four.)

Lastly, you could make an argument that the Japanese were on their way to winning the Second Sino-Japanese War, before they foolishly bombed Pearl Harbor. Anyway, I'm done stating historical examples of Japan's dominance. :D All in all, what DPW stated rings true for me as well, this is simply speculation. (but that doesn't mean I'm ruling it out)

(And sorry I disrupted your plans for the Entente to be the best in every aspect, AB :p )

For the Abrams-for-Olifants deal, you'll pay a mere $4.96 billion.

For the 48 F-14s (I've got a total of 300+ in reserve), the price would be $2.064 billion. If you want Phoenix missiles too, I can throw that in for a small additional fee.

Of course, there are all at Alliance prices, which is considerably less than general sale prices (Hint hint, Futuris :P).


Psychotika: If you invaded Russia, you'd be on the recieving end of a whole lotta American bombs and cruise missiles. The Entente may be smaller than the TA right now, but it's tighter and actually is still probaly stronger militarily and politically. I think with the GEACPS part of the TA now, the TA is slightly economically stronger. Take out the GEACPS and it goes back to the Entente.

If Psychotika full plans go ahead, if he even gets the land, to invade Yugoslavian states, he won't be in the TA probably as we'll all be annoyed at him. :p I agree that the Entente is more exclusive and tight, though to be honest you haven't got much on us military wise but a lot of nuclear weapons. I don't know how you define your political strength though?

Personally, I agree with Honako on the situation of a new player coming in and claiming China. Anyway, if they were a good enough Rper, they could claim it anyway while it would be at war with us, since I wouldn't intend it to be a short conquest.

My position as well - it would be fun to have someone RPing some kind of unified Chinese force to retake control of the nation.

Also, I'd like to add that the Japanese won the First Sino-Japanese War despite being outnumbered. Just as that Japan's technology was greater than the Qing Dynasty's, mine is greater than the PRC's. Not to mention, with my control of Indo-China, Mongolia (with my support) and I could attack them from three fronts. (And if Psychotika's pending nation joins in, four.)

Just putting it out there - my nation probably wouldn't be interested in doing much else beyond reunifying historical Mongolia. Then again, let's just say that if you help us do that, we help you get the eastern part of the country or whatever. :P

Lastly, you could make an argument that the Japanese were on their way to winning the Second Sino-Japanese War, before they foolishly bombed Pearl Harbor.

Dude, they were dominating, partially because, like I said earlier, the Kuomintang had their collective heads shoved firmly up their asses and refused to unify with the Communists against the Japanese. That's what I figure would probably happen in this case as well - all sorts of different factions going at it, too busy to unify and face the outside aggression. Then again, they might've learned their lesson from last time.

I'm confused...what's going on with Psychotika?

I'm confused...what's going on with Psychotika?

He wants to claim the nations that the GGA wants to invade basically, the Euroasian ones. He also has plans to invade the Yugoslavian states that I wanted, and progress onto Russia or the Ukraine or something.

If Psychotika full plans go ahead, if he even gets the land, to invade Yugoslavian states, he won't be in the TA probably as we'll all be annoyed at him. :p I agree that the Entente is more exclusive and tight, though to be honest you haven't got much on us military wise but a lot of nuclear weapons. I don't know how you define your political strength though?

Uh-are you serious?

The Entente has all but 2 of the world's major Aircraft carriers (excluding the tiny Spanish and Italian ones...if you even call those carriers). That's just a small portion.

It also has 2/3 of the world's naval forces (With teh Russian and US navies), the best AF around (really with the only jets capable of being number one in the Su-37 and F-22), an elite standing army with some great equipment-the military of the Entente is clearly it's forerunner.

As for political-the question lies: Would you really want to get engaged with the Entente?

A lot would probaly say no.

Now, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind getting involved with the TA. The TA has no power at all in the Western Hemisphere pretty much, while the Entente can pressure all of Europe and Asia pretty easily with India, America, South Africa, and Russia well-placed geographically. Russia could swarm into Eastern Europe and engage the GEACPS and Mongolia. India could hit the GEACPS from the South and hit Silvado and spread then into Europe. America could flatten Wagdog pretty quickly (those islands are pretty small...) then punch into the GEACPS, while launching an invasion of Britain. That's political power.

And military power.

However, ya'll do have the economical sides (thanks Corbounne :P) with the GEACPS.

Lacking the GEACPS, however, America's sheer economical power (#1 in ESS) would push the Entente over the top.

Yeah, I knew they dominated, I just didn't want to come across as making it seem like I thought I could take China easily.

Dude, they were dominating, partially because, like I said earlier, the Kuomintang had their collective heads shoved firmly up their asses and refused to unify with the Communists against the Japanese. That's what I figure would probably happen in this case as well - all sorts of different factions going at it, too busy to unify and face the outside aggression. Then again, they might've learned their lesson from last time.

Though history tends to repeat itself. (Like Germany effectively making the same mistake twice. :p )

Oh, and forget about that Psychotika joining in thing, I misunderstood where he meant to create his new country.

I'd like to claim Slovenia if it is still available.

Sorry that I didn't read the whole thread first to be sure it's not already claimed, but this thread is gigantic. I saw that there is already a Yugoslavia, but he only claimed Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia and Bosnia, not Slovenia which is also a former part of Yugoslavia.

My nation's flag is the Slovenian flag so it makes sense we would be Slovenia.

I only just created the nation of Stendaria today, but I played NS previously as the nation of Sebaria and the nation of Nindan. I wasn't really active in the forums, but I'd like to try it.

I'd like to claim Slovenia if it is still available.

Sorry that I didn't read the whole thread first to be sure it's not already claimed, but this thread is gigantic. I saw that there is already a Yugoslavia, but he only claimed Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia and Bosnia, not Slovenia which is also a former part of Yugoslavia.

My nation's flag is the Slovenian flag so it makes sense we would be Slovenia.

I only just created the nation of Stendaria today, but I played NS previously as the nation of Sebaria and the nation of Nindan. I wasn't really active in the forums, but I'd like to try it.

At this rate, you may be able to take Yugoslavia period-unless Estereich comes back any time soon, which is doubtful.

I'll leave final judgement to Wagdog.


Secondary things:

Has anyone seen Animarnia recently?

And:

Futuris, I left an "invitation" in your factbook.

For the Abrams-for-Olifants deal, you'll pay a mere $4.96 billion.

For the 48 F-14s (I've got a total of 300+ in reserve), the price would be $2.064 billion. If you want Phoenix missiles too, I can throw that in for a small additional fee.

Of course, there are all at Alliance prices, which is considerably less than general sale prices (Hint hint, Futuris :P).


Cool, and I definately want Phoenix Missles. But to make this more beleiveable, why don't we have the deliveries happen over the course of 2 or 3 years. That way, me spending roughly 6 or 7 billion isn't as weird.

Has anyone seen Animarnia recently?


Here' internet is being sparadicly a pain; whats up?

Now, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind getting involved with the TA. The TA has no power at all in the Western Hemisphere pretty much, while the Entente can pressure all of Europe and Asia pretty easily with India, America, South Africa, and Russia well-placed geographically. Russia could swarm into Eastern Europe and engage the GEACPS and Mongolia. India could hit the GEACPS from the South and hit Silvado and spread then into Europe. America could flatten Wagdog pretty quickly (those islands are pretty small...) then punch into the GEACPS, while launching an invasion of Britain. That's political power.


I see you mentioned the Dominion there, but you failed to include it in any big plans...

Let me just start with Slovenia if it has really never been claimed as it appears. If Yugoslavia is in disarray, then perhaps we Slovenes can propose reunification and get the old country back together.

Also, the name of our ESS country will not be "Stendaria", it will be "Slovenia".

I see you mentioned the Dominion there, but you failed to include it in any big plans...

Addressing both issues:

I just used those three because they're placed directly against points of insertion. South Africa, utilizing allied fleets, could probaly move around and hit Spain. That'd lead to a two-pronged assault on the WEF just as the GGA was getting slammed by Russia. That'd draw off some forces from Russia's front, as you attacked Spain and me Britain.
And if Futuris accepts, I could do even more to both the GGA and WEF in such a circumstance.

As for the Tomcats thing, yeah, 2-3 years for both that and the tanks would sound good.
As for the Phoenixes, I'd be willing to toss in 300 missiles for a total price of $2.172 billion. That's a cost of $108 million for the missiles-not bad for 300-which is great for me, seeing as they're effectively retired from the AADF (And USAF in RL).


Animarnia: Just making sure you were still here, as I'm going to invite all Entente members to a conference (pending Futuris response).

Uh-are you serious?

The Entente has all but 2 of the world's major Aircraft carriers (excluding the tiny Spanish and Italian ones...if you even call those carriers). That's just a small portion.

It also has 2/3 of the world's naval forces (With teh Russian and US navies), the best AF around (really with the only jets capable of being number one in the Su-37 and F-22), an elite standing army with some great equipment-the military of the Entente is clearly it's forerunner.

As for political-the question lies: Would you really want to get engaged with the Entente?

A lot would probaly say no.

Now, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind getting involved with the TA. The TA has no power at all in the Western Hemisphere pretty much, while the Entente can pressure all of Europe and Asia pretty easily with India, America, South Africa, and Russia well-placed geographically. Russia could swarm into Eastern Europe and engage the GEACPS and Mongolia. India could hit the GEACPS from the South and hit Silvado and spread then into Europe. America could flatten Wagdog pretty quickly (those islands are pretty small...) then punch into the GEACPS, while launching an invasion of Britain. That's political power.

And military power.

However, ya'll do have the economical sides (thanks Corbounne :P) with the GEACPS.

Lacking the GEACPS, however, America's sheer economical power (#1 in ESS) would push the Entente over the top.

Animarnia is on everyday. Yugoslavia is not ruled by Estereich but by another guy who still is semi-active (he at least goes on nationstates) and has a factbook. Slovenia is a GGA ruled country, though they may be willing to give it up :)

I'm pretty sure we could rival you ecomonically without GEACPS (though I'll make sure that won't need to happen) - as, I don't know about the GGA, the WEF and the GGA ecomonic power combined is nearly Americas, and my ecomony alone is almost seven times that of Russias, and with other nations we could equal involved we could equal you maybe.

I know nothing about military, so I retract my statement. We all know America is strong and whoever sides they go on will probably win in the long run, no need to rub it in :p Hehe...

I don't want to do comparisons all day, the Third Alliance is purely an alternative created to not just follow what Russia and America say - and this place would be more boring without it. :p

Ok I agree to the price of roughly 8 Billion USD for the 300 Phoenix Missles, 48 F-14s, and 800 M1A2 Abrams tanks.

I am also working on the G7MH write up. I will also have another write-up done today as well, it's a sniper rifle. I think you guys are going to like this.

I'm planning on dropping the stats to the Mass Driver later tonight.

Animarnia is on everyday. Yugoslavia is not ruled by Estereich but by another guy who still is semi-active (he at least goes on nationstates) and has a factbook. Slovenia is a GGA ruled country, though they may be willing to give it up :)

I'm pretty sure we could rival you ecomonically without GEACPS (though I'll make sure that won't need to happen) - as, I don't know about the GGA, the WEF and the GGA ecomonic power combined is nearly Americas, and my ecomony alone is almost seven times that of Russias, and with other nations we could equal involved we could equal you maybe.

I know nothing about military, so I retract my statement. We all know America is strong and whoever sides they go on will probably win in the long run, no need to rub it in :p Hehe...

I don't want to do comparisons all day, the Third Alliance is purely an alternative created to not just follow what Russia and America say - and this place would be more boring without it. :p

But we're doing a quasi-Cold War here until the aliens show up-so comparisons are fun :P

Except this Cold War is bigger! And it involves grabbing up every little piece of land (come on, we all need it).

If you guys are going to invade Estereich, we should get progressing on it (and the other land-grabbing RPs-I'd be willing to launch the Australian campaign as well), because Fusing the Spark is going pretty slow right now (Senders, I need a response to my preemptory attack). I've got plenty of other forces to divert to other places. I'm probaly going to start diplomatic pressure on Cyprus soon as well (using bribes, of course-it's a torn country as it is by local feuding). That could end up Vietnam-esque, however. Greenland-I may go in soon enough, but Greenland is so small that it barely will even affect anything.

Futuris: as an extra incentive, how would you like Cyprus practically given to you? It'd work best for regional control for the Entente as a whole-and everyone loves new land. Politically, I could make that work.

Ok I agree to the price of roughly 8 Billion USD for the 300 Phoenix Missles, 48 F-14s, and 800 M1A2 Abrams tanks.

I am also working on the G7MH write up. I will also have another write-up done today as well, it's a sniper rifle. I think you guys are going to like this.

I'm going to start up a Market thread here in just a sec-where I'll lay out the purchase (basically, just do exactly what I just mentioned, except flesh it out a bit). We can confirm it there.

That thread will be like the IC one-open for everyone's purchases, no matter on which side of the Global Mason-Dixon line you're on (Iron Curtain was taken, sorry).

You're right, Honako, Slovenia was claimed by GGA already. I didn't see that. I like the fact that almost all countries on this Earth are player-controlled, but it does make it difficult to get into the game. I am still trying to find somewhere that is not claimed.

I saw something about China coming unraveled. If that's true, I would like to claim Hainan Island or, if possible, Hong Kong, Gwangdong (Canton) province and Fujian (Fukien) province and also Hainan Island.

Also, I'm open to suggestions on what's available if some of the more experienced players will let me know.

I shotty Malta!

You're right, Amazonian Beasts, Slovenia was claimed by GGA already. I didn't see that. I like the fact that almost all countries on this Earth are player-controlled, but it does make it difficult to get into the game. I am still trying to find somewhere that is not claimed.

I saw something about China coming unraveled. If that's true, I would like to claim Hainan Island or, if possible, Hong Kong, Gwangdong (Canton) province and Fujian (Fukien) province and also Hainan Island.

Also, I'm open to suggestions on what's available if some of the more experienced players will let me know.

Just take all of China. Please, we need it together.

You're right, Amazonian Beasts, Slovenia was claimed by GGA already. I didn't see that. I like the fact that almost all countries on this Earth are player-controlled, but it does make it difficult to get into the game. I am still trying to find somewhere that is not claimed.

I saw something about China coming unraveled. If that's true, I would like to claim Hainan Island or, if possible, Hong Kong, Gwangdong (Canton) province and Fujian (Fukien) province and also Hainan Island.

Also, I'm open to suggestions on what's available if some of the more experienced players will let me know.

Depending on what Eri says, you may be able to get most of China.

Want Australia? It's open. So's New Zealand.

How 'bout parts of Africa? Africa's a promising country; we all love it. Add some detail.

I'm going to start up a Market thread here in just a sec-where I'll lay out the purchase (basically, just do exactly what I just mentioned, except flesh it out a bit). We can confirm it there.

That thread will be like the IC one-open for everyone's purchases, no matter on which side of the Global Mason-Dixon line you're on (Iron Curtain was taken, sorry).

Can the Market thread be an Entente-wide market? All purchases would go to the respective nations, but it would make things a lot easier so you don't have to go between four different threads to buy stuff.

Can the Market thread be an Entente-wide market? All purchases would go to the respective nations, but it would make things a lot easier so you don't have to go between four different threads to buy stuff.

Uh...what?

I didn't really understand that, could you clarify?

It's kind of like the European American Defense Consortium from EV. A bunch of equipment is listed with the Nation of Origin next to the price. all purchases of the respective vehicle go to that specified nation.

But we're doing a quasi-Cold War here until the aliens show up-so comparisons are fun :P

Except this Cold War is bigger! And it involves grabbing up every little piece of land (come on, we all need it).

If you guys are going to invade Estereich, we should get progressing on it (and the other land-grabbing RPs-I'd be willing to launch the Australian campaign as well), because Fusing the Spark is going pretty slow right now (Senders, I need a response to my preemptory attack). I've got plenty of other forces to divert to other places. I'm probaly going to start diplomatic pressure on Cyprus soon as well (using bribes, of course-it's a torn country as it is by local feuding). That could end up Vietnam-esque, however. Greenland-I may go in soon enough, but Greenland is so small that it barely will even affect anything.

Futuris: as an extra incentive, how would you like Cyprus practically given to you? It'd work best for regional control for the Entente as a whole-and everyone loves new land. Politically, I could make that work.

My #1 plan is to take the Yugoslavian states for two reasons 1) GGA, my main ally, wants the rest of them, and 2) it is the one that will get me the least conflict with other nations. Though the GGA will be making the first move on that, and we still don't know whether Phys..whatever his name is will become the Euroasian countries. If this invasion goes ahead and to plan, around three people will rule the whole of Europe.

I don't know about political power much either of the WEF, perhaps you could inform me in one of your in-depth analysis’s :p - but we must have some considering at the moment we are the 'face' of the Third Alliance and the main recruiter, which in itself brings some influence I suppose...this is all to confusing for me...

In that case, I claim Australia and New Zealand. I'm not sure what to call it. Perhaps we should assume some sort of peaceful federation of the two. They have close relations already. We could call it the Federation of Australia and New Zealand. (FANZ)

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the GA-18.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12587632#post12587632

Depending on what Eri says, you may be able to get most of China.

Want Australia? It's open. So's New Zealand.

How 'bout parts of Africa? Africa's a promising country; we all love it. Add some detail.

Yeah, take Australia and New Zealand, they are major countries that no one has.

Again though I'm against someone coming in and taking China - for one it ruins a good RP we could have, and two I think it's just too late for a someone to come in and take a major country that has the power to change everything.

You're right, Honako, Slovenia was claimed by GGA already. I didn't see that. I like the fact that almost all countries on this Earth are player-controlled, but it does make it difficult to get into the game. I am still trying to find somewhere that is not claimed.

I saw something about China coming unraveled. If that's true, I would like to claim Hainan Island or, if possible, Hong Kong, Gwangdong (Canton) province and Fujian (Fukien) province and also Hainan Island.

Also, I'm open to suggestions on what's available if some of the more experienced players will let me know.

There are two options that you have regarding China:

1) Take a part of it, and RP bringing the nation back together and expelling the foreigners. I'm in favor of this one because it would be more interesting, it would throw you into some action from the get-go, and because i'd be one of those invaders. :rolleyes: Then again, you may not want to listen to me because i'm so obviously biased one way, so your other option is...

2) Take it all. That's cool too, especially if you want to start RPing with minimal pressure (as I did in this Earth), learn how things work, and work your way into conflicts gradually.

Whatever is more your style.

(Subliminal messaging: PICK #1!!! WHOO!!! NUMBER ONE!!!) :D

EDIT: Or you could go with Australia and NZ. They're fine, too, and will probably be a bit slower-paced as well. Like I said, whatever your preference is, we can accommodate it.

Yeah, take Australia and New Zealand, they are major countries that no one has.

Again though I'm against someone coming in and taking China - for one it ruins a good RP we could have, and two I think it's just too late for a someone to come in and take a major country that has the power to change everything.

Naturally, I agree.

(Oops, you already claimed. :D Good choice. Maybe you can become a member of the Third Alliance!)

My #1 plan is to take the Yugoslavian states for two reasons 1) GGA, my main ally, wants the rest of them, and 2) it is the one that will get me the least conflict with other nations. Though the GGA will be making the first move on that, and we still don't know whether Phys..whatever his name is will become the Euroasian countries. If this invasion goes ahead and to plan, around three people will rule the whole of Europe.

I don't know about political power much either of the WEF, perhaps you could inform me in one of your in-depth analysis’s :p - but we must have quite a lot considering at the moment we are the 'face' of the Third Alliance and the main recruiter, which in itself brings some influence I suppose...this is all to confusing for me...

Nothin' wrong with three people ruling Europe. Currently, three rule Africa, the second-largest continent, and 2 rule North America, the 3rd-largest. If things go as I plan, two will completely rule North America (every little bit of it). And depending if Senders comes on, possibly one could rule it at this rate. If Senders comes back, I won't take over his nation...but if he doesn't, and it goes NPC for Wagdog to RP it, then I'm gonna take the whole thing (at least Mexico-I've always considered the US, Mexico, Canada, and Cuba as North America's Holy Four).

As for Political power: it's not the gap that military is. The TA has a lot of swaying nations-the WEF probaly number 2 among them (I would say the GEACPS is the TA's most persuasive nation, followed by WEF, followed by the GGA). The Entente, though, has the world's strongest military and economic power, the world's largest geographical nation, and the world's largest population nation, as well as a hold in a quickly-developing African nation(possibly 2 holds, pending Futuris). That's what I mean by political power-how much influence you can cast. WEF obviously has a lot-it has what was once the world's foremost powers in France, Spain, and England, and Western Europe has long been respected and powerful. GGA is a little less, as Eastern Europe is more of a new thing. GEACPS is probaly the second-most influential nation, though. The sheer economical power that the GEACPS has (still #2, but nonetheless, some serious power) makes the GEACPS a nice nation.

The recruiting part also gives you power. Essentially, the two faces are the WEF and (sorry guys) the NAR at the moment.
For the Entente, UR's been the power guy behind the scenes, while Animarnia and the Dominion are the sleeper prospects (by sleeper, I mean under the radar) that are seriously becoming quite strong.
On the other side, the TA has numerous profiles. The GEACPS fills the same sort of role that the UR does for the Entente. The GGA is kinda a hard-to-place role, but it's essentially the TA's motivation (it's the hungriest of your nations). Silvado holds the oil region, so that's strong. Mongolia and Wagdog are a bit below the rest, but they're coming up and developing fairly well ('specially with Mongolia buying that Animarnian equipment).

If China becomes under someone else, and the TA gets China, then I'd tip the Political scale to the TA. However, of course, I'll do all I can to at the very least keep China neutral (including plenty of bribes...).

I actually prefer Australia and New Zealand rather than China because I am not necessarily ready to commit the time to run a major world power or to RP a detailed battle for control of parts of China. That's part of why I started off trying to claim Slovenia.

I have some questions perhaps someone can answer,

(1) Is there any in-game history of Australia and New Zealand that I need to be aware of?

(2) How can I find the various threads of ESS?

(3) What is the basic world situation? I heard of three major alliances and I don't even know who they are.

(4) What year is it in the game?

(5) What was that reference I saw a few minutes ago to aliens invading? Is that a joke or is that going to happen in this game?

In that case, I claim Australia and New Zealand. I'm not sure what to call it. Perhaps we should assume some sort of peaceful federation of the two. They have close relations already. We could call it the Federation of Australia and New Zealand. (FANZ)

Good choice. Just wait for Wagdog to ok it and we'll be in the clear to go ahead with your factbook.

1) Not yet.
2) On the first page of this thread, click on the "Consolidation Thread" link. It's got a lot.
3) The world is so: there's two major alliances, essentially the Social Justice one (TA) and the Power-seeking one (Entente). i'll explain more later.
4) 2008, April
5) No joke, it's a way to spice up the Earth a bit. It'll come later.

Candistan: That sounds cool. However, I plan the Market thread as a Global thing, not just Entente. Anyone can use it.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the GA-18.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12587632#post12587632

Dunno if you missed it, but...

Corbournne, I TG'd you. Nothing too important really...

Stendaria: I sent you a TG that outlines the alliances.

I actually prefer Australia and New Zealand rather than China because I am not necessarily ready to commit the time to run a major world power or to RP a detailed battle for control of parts of China. That's part of why I started off trying to claim Slovenia.

I have some questions perhaps someone can answer,

(1) Is there any in-game history of Australia and New Zealand that I need to be aware of?

(2) How can I find the various threads of ESS?

(3) What is the basic world situation? I heard of three major alliances and I don't even know who they are.

(4) What year is it in the game?

(5) What was that reference I saw a few minutes ago to aliens invading? Is that a joke or is that going to happen in this game?

I'll be brief.

1) Not really.
2) There was a thread linking to them...the ones that may interest you are all the factbooks though currently, and they can be accessed from the front page next to the names of ones who have them. You can start up diplomatic relations with people in these.
3) There are two major alliances, though South America are united. The Entente is made up on big powers such as India, America, Russia and South Africa. These are quite exclusive and tight. Then there is The Third Alliance (the one I'm in and your welcome to join, :p) - this is for nations which want an alternative to being America's puppydog. They are not so tight, though will mutual defend each other and are the largest of the alliances, present in nearly every continent and dominating Europe - they are also the richer of the two, though lack in strength of military possibly.
4) No idea.
5) I'll leave that to AB.

Ach, the alliances are recruiting already! :rolleyes: Sorry, just had to make the obvious joke, even if it's a bad one. Wait a tic, whatever happened to the other alliance of the CAE, Marxikhan, and Brazil? For that matter, where are the CAE, Marxikhan, and Brazil? I haven't seen 'em around lately.

Alright, to get you up to speed about the aliens:

The premise right now is a Cold War. The world is locked in an escalating power struggle between two major powers (detailed in that TG I sent) fighting for every neutral nation left in the world. This is slowly driving the world apart, and likely towards destined war.

However, rather than war, once expanion plans by nations that have come up are accomplished, something will drive them together rather than apart.

(This is where it differs from usual Earths).

Area 51 in North American Republic history has actually been a real place-and Roswell New Mexico was actually the site that Humans learned they were not alone. However, contact was never made with a living alien-dead ones were discovered at Roswell and taken to Area 51 (now dominated by essentially the ticking time bomb of the world, America's intelligence agency, OMI).

Once the expansion plots are done, the same aliens that first were contacted dead will make First Contact for humanity-and it will not be peacefully. It will be violently. I plan to RP them-I think I'm probaly the most well-versed FT RPer amongst us all-and will strike the continental NAR first probaly (my target right now is Seattle and Vancouver, though this is just thought).

They will then target every major population center in the world with a massive strike. Obviously, this will be contested by humanity, and a giant war for survival will commence. Rather than nations fighting, this will be species fighting. One for conquest, one to prevent annihilation.

Ach, the alliances are recruiting already! :rolleyes: Sorry, just had to make the obvious joke, even if it's a bad one. Wait a tic, whatever happened to the other alliance of the CAE, Marxikhan, and Brazil? For that matter, where are the CAE, Marxikhan, and Brazil? I haven't seen 'em around lately.

They're currently sitting pretty. If they don't do much, though, the Western Hemisphere will essentially become a giant Entente position (except for Argentina/Chile). Brazil will probaly stay neutral if it gets voided.

I'm awaiting Senders. If Senders doesn't meet the 2-week (3 week? I don't know what it was) deadline, then I guess it will go to NPC from Wagdog or a volunteer to contest me. I would leave the nation mostly intact if it was Senders-but if its NPC, you can bet I'm gonna claim some territory. I'd expect the rest of the Entente to join in, too.

Meh, I'll not try and influence there choice as to which alliance they enter - at the beginning maybe it would be best if they didn't even join one at all (though in times of war it's recommended). If they gracefully want to come into the game they'd be better with the TA, as AB said were more the Social Justice alliance, and the Entente would be good if they want to come in and be part of whatever there horrible plan is.

Though, bare this in mind, your closest neighbours are TA. :p

My advice to him via TG was to be neutral. He's a new guy to NS, and since the Entente and TA are pretty hostile to each other right now, it'd be best for him if he wasn't caught up in alliance politics just yet.

EDIT: Time Warp. Again.

Meh, I'll not try and influence there choice as to which alliance they enter - at the beginning maybe it would be best if they didn't even join one at all (though in times of war it's recommended). If they gracefully want to come into the game they'd be better with the TA, as AB said were more the Social Justice alliance, and the Entente would be good if they want to come in and be part of whatever there horrible plan is.

My advice to him via TG was to be neutral. He's a new guy to NS, and since the Entente and TA are pretty hostile to each other right now, it'd be best for him if he wasn't caught up in alliance politics just yet.

EDIT: Time Warp. Again.

I agree with you on that, it would unfair to put him under pressure to choose...

We will begin the game neutral except for historical ties to Britain and the ANZUS treaty (between Australia, New Zealand and the US) which has not been formally disavowed but is increasingly unpopular.

As we begin, Australia and New Zealand are as they are today. I'll RP how they end up together as one country.

Corbournne, I TG'd you. Nothing too important really...


Replied.

I actually prefer Australia and New Zealand rather than China because I am not necessarily ready to commit the time to run a major world power or to RP a detailed battle for control of parts of China. That's part of why I started off trying to claim Slovenia.

I have some questions perhaps someone can answer,

(1) Is there any in-game history of Australia and New Zealand that I need to be aware of?

(2) How can I find the various threads of ESS?

(3) What is the basic world situation? I heard of three major alliances and I don't even know who they are.

(4) What year is it in the game?

(5) What was that reference I saw a few minutes ago to aliens invading? Is that a joke or is that going to happen in this game?
Claim approved, plus my take.
1) You can make some up, although using real history up until your country forms is recommended.
2) As answered before.
3) Technically we're in a world war situation, but so far nobody's messed with that Third Alliance AB mentioned since yeah we've got the money even if the Entente has the guns (though if anybody but the aliens went for me they'd find out just how much damage 6 Tu-160 Blackjack bombers can do...:D)
4) As said before, 2K8
5) Yep. Nasty ones too, kind of a Jem'Hadar/Covenant crossover, although from what AB's said IIRC they're somewhat more within a modern-tech power's capability to at least resist. The thread about a Czechalrussian destroyer going missing is the best place to start with this angle, since it's the teaser thread.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the GA-18.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12587632#post12587632

Nice! :) we want some

And El Market Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525235

I am not going to create any alternate history for Australia and New Zealand prior to April, 2008 except to mention this which is really happening:

(1) A surge of anti-American feeling has grown in recent years in Australia because people are outraged at American foreign policy. It has become so extreme that American college students in Australia have gone home to avoid being shouted at or even assaulted. (Yes, this is really happening because of the War in Iraq, torture of prisoners, etc.)

and this which is a reaction to in-game events:

(2) Australia and New Zealand both feel increasingly threatened and isolated by world events, especially the growing power of the Third Alliance and its hostility to America and its allies. They, especially New Zealand, are increasingly desperate for reliable allies who are not affiliated with either of the alliances. This has led to the idea of strengthening ties between Australia and New Zealand.

In just six months, the idea has gone from obscure think tanks and a few newspaper columns to a major political issue that leading politicians are taking positions on.

This has partly been fueled by a popular novel called, "The Last Stand" which manages to concoct a plausible sounding scenario in which the Entente falls apart and America ends up in a war against a vast alliance of hostile powers. Australia gets attacked because of its ties to America, but New Zealand breaks treaty commitments to Australia and declares neutrality. Australia gets invaded by a powerful alliance of East Asian nations while America can't spare troops to defend it and New Zealand isn't willing to for moral reasons. After Australia falls, the invaders occupy New Zealand as well, almost without a fight. The occupiers carry out a genocidal policy against the people of Australia and New Zealand and the story ends with an uprising in a concentration camp in which various characters who earlier had underestimated the danger now fight the enemy with only their bare hands. This is the "Last Stand" of the title.

The book is not all that realistic, but its graphic descriptions of the horrors of a brutal foreign occupation similar to (but worse than) that inflicted by Japan on various nations in World War II alarms many, especially since Japan really did attack Australia in World War II and probably would have occupied Australia and New Zealand if the Americans had not come to their aid.

I am not going to create any alternate history for Australia and New Zealand prior to April, 2008 except to mention this which is really happening:

(1) A surge of anti-American feeling has grown in recent years in Australia because people are outraged at American foreign policy. It has become so extreme that American college students in Australia have gone home to avoid being shouted at or even assaulted. (Yes, this is really happening because of the War in Iraq, torture of prisoners, etc.)

and this which is a reaction to in-game events:

(2) Australia and New Zealand both feel increasingly threatened and isolated by world events, especially the growing power of the Third Alliance and its hostility to America and its allies. They, especially New Zealand, are increasingly desperate for reliable allies who are not affiliated with either of the alliances. This has led to the idea of strengthening ties between Australia and New Zealand.

In just six months, the idea has gone from obscure think tanks and a few newspaper columns to a major political issue that leading politicians are taking positions on.

This has partly been fueled by a popular novel called, "The Last Stand" which manages to concoct a plausible sounding scenario in which the Entente falls apart and America ends up in a war against a vast alliance of hostile powers. Australia gets attacked because of its ties to America, but New Zealand breaks treaty commitments to Australia and declares neutrality. Australia gets invaded by a powerful alliance of East Asian nations while America can't spare troops to defend it and New Zealand isn't willing to for moral reasons. After Australia falls, the invaders occupy New Zealand as well, almost without a fight. The occupiers carry out a genocidal policy against the people of Australia and New Zealand and the story ends with an uprising in a concentration camp in which various characters who earlier had underestimated the danger now fight the enemy with only their bare hands. This is the "Last Stand" of the title.

The book is not all that realistic, but its graphic descriptions of the horrors of a brutal foreign occupation similar to (but worse than) that inflicted by Japan on various nations in World War II alarms many, especially since Japan really did attack Australia in World War II and probably would have occupied Australia and New Zealand if the Americans had not come to their aid.

Sounds good - you should make a fact book, including history etc. I think it's good you remain neutral until you have formulated a proper opinion and any major conflict starts. One thing I will say in relation to "feel increasingly threatened and isolated by world events, especially the growing power of the Third Alliance and its hostility to America and its allies" though is that The Third Alliance is really actually less of a feared military power currently than America and it's allies, purely because it is more of a peaceful alliance, a Social Justice one as AB says, where as Entente are a more forceful alliance who throw there power around more often. It is practically equal as strong, and has more countries in it, though it is less forceful. Obviously this is all novels and speculation, just thought I'd say that though.

I finished my Semester Project (Yes!) but it took me all day yesterday until 3 o'clock. I managed to type and organize around 90 pages of quality material, with more than half of that yesterday. I was busy, but now it's done.

I want to keep the Threads/Factbooks thing going, especially now as we have more and more threads popping up and new nations joining in.

Also.....anything I should be aware of, except hypocritical actions by a few nations, and the alien thing coming closer?

If you want to add the thread/factbook to it, just post the link in the thread and I'll edit accordingly. It's on the first page of this thread, but just to be sure everyone knows.... http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524384

Check your factbook.

Sounds good - you should make a fact book, including history etc. I think it's good you remain neutral until you have formulated a proper opinion and any major conflict starts. One thing I will say in relation to "feel increasingly threatened and isolated by world events, especially the growing power of the Third Alliance and its hostility to America and its allies" though is that The Third Alliance is really actually less of a feared military power currently than America and it's allies, purely because it is more of a peaceful alliance, a Social Justice one as AB says, where as Entente are a more forceful alliance who throw there power around more often. It is practically equal as strong, and has more countries in it, though it is less forceful. Obviously this is all novels and speculation, just thought I'd say that though.

I have a fact book already, I'll post it shortly.

The reason the Australians and the New Zealanders are more afraid of the TA than the Entente is because America has been their ally for over half a century. More nations probably fear the Entente than fear the TA, but which one seems more threatening to you depends on who you are.

he whats up? What happend to fusing the spark? And when is the world war going to REALLY start. Im playing the defensive right now so I'm waiting for a Russian/American Attack

he whats up? What happend to fusing the spark? And when is the world war going to REALLY start. Im playing the defensive right now so I'm waiting for a Russian/American Attack

They're waiting for you and Senders apparently. Don't complain, things like this take a long time.

Atleast I hope this doesn't take as long as the Earth V War. It's been going on since September, nothing has gotten done. All it's been is arguing.

Well i posted on fusing the spark, not much just letting people know that i am alive, and kicking!







(Pay no attention to this, but word on the street is a new horror earth just got started and y'all might want to check it out....)

On the GGA factbook, I found a reference to a "Confederation of ANZAC States". Is that Australia and New Zealand and if so, how can I find out what their previous actions have been?

Well i posted on fusing the spark, not much just letting people know that i am alive, and kicking!

My Carrier Group of doom is on the way though we havn't declared war yet; be warned we shall be flying the flag of death.

On the GGA factbook, I found a reference to a "Confederation of ANZAC States". Is that Australia and New Zealand and if so, how can I find out what their previous actions have been?

I'm pretty sure that they did absolutely nothing, actually. You've got, pretty much, a free hand to do whatever you feel like concerning your nation's history.

ANZAC states did nil, and Vetaka voided them.

Futuris, you have a TG.

So anyone want to order the GA-18? Remember I may not allow the exportation of it to your country, so you'd better hope that you're are well liked.

So anyone want to order the GA-18? Remember I may not allow the exportation of it to your country, so you'd better hope that you're are well liked.

I'll direct my answer to the market thread. I'm interested, however.

meh on second thoughts I'll remain BB.

meh on second thoughts I'll remain BB.

I always think a Merc group could use a very advanced sniper rifle.

My government is willing to give you one or two, if you'll stay on our good side.

I'm going to post the European thread within the hour. I just have to finish typing it, as I wrote it by hand...

European Theatre is up and running!!!!

Operation Renewal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525247)

yeah, look at that beautiful rp'ing!

I'll be in shortly.

Kamp, Bush is my Sec State, not Pres-unless you meant to send it to the Sec State.

Also, my intelligence org is going to be contacting you on "dealings" in that thread.

I'll be in shortly.

Kamp, Bush is my Sec State, not Pres-unless you meant to send it to the Sec State.

Also, my intelligence org is going to be contacting you on "dealings" in that thread.

oh, whoops, forgot.

Ill go change that to Frist

and believe me, I can't wait to talk to OMI

Hmmmm...maybe some evidence might slow down the NAR war effort hm?

and believe me, I can't wait to talk to OMI

hmm that should be an interesting meeting....

Well, the UR just got involved in Erstreichs downfall. Hopefully it will turn out to be interesting what the GGA says about it.

Hey Wagdog can we do a RP where my ASAS guys kidnap one of your elven for experimentation purposes?

Well, the UR just got involved in Erstreichs downfall. Hopefully it will turn out to be interesting what the GGA says about it.

if you noted in my sic, i offered you land to sooth your feelings. That land would be Georgia, Azerbajan, and Armenia.

NOT Turkey. I want turkey, as it is a vital part of my plans for the GGA. If you do not heed me and attack me, you risk losing your friendship with the NAR. I only hope your troops leave after rescuing the visitors...

if you noted in my sic, i offered you land to sooth your feelings. That land would be Georgia, Azerbajan, and Armenia.

NOT Turkey. I want turkey, as it is a vital part of my plans for the GGA. If you do not heed me and attack me, you risk losing your friendship with the NAR. I only hope your troops leave after rescuing the visitors...

Don't make demands. It will bring you doom. DOOM I SAY!


DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

if you noted in my sic, i offered you land to sooth your feelings. That land would be Georgia, Azerbajan, and Armenia.

NOT Turkey. I want turkey, as it is a vital part of my plans for the GGA. If you do not heed me and attack me, you risk losing your friendship with the NAR. I only hope your troops leave after rescuing the visitors...

It isn't all of Turkey, just Istanbul. Adds a bit of conflict to the RP, something we need more of nowadays. Plus, the UR has to make its rep look better making "Peace" in the Caucasus.

It isn't all of Turkey, just Istanbul. Adds a bit of conflict to the RP, something we need more of nowadays. Plus, the UR has to make its rep look better making "Peace" in the Caucasus.

ya, well, i need all of turkey to be a land bridge to connect what i will take in the Middle east to my countries in Europe. Id be willing to let you handle "peace" operations in the aforementioned Georgia, Azerbajan, and Armenia. You can even keep them...

AB, check TG's

How about instead of ruining the RP discussing this OOCly, we argue ICly and make it more interesting for the international community. And why would the NAR be pissed at me? As a fellow Entente member I would think he would be on my side of things.

How about instead of ruining the RP discussing this OOCly, we argue ICly and make it more interesting for the international community. And why would the NAR be pissed at me? As a fellow Entente member I would think he would be on my side of things.

never mind, its too complicated. Alright, I can do so, but i really want turkey.

never mind, its too complicated. Alright, I can do so, but i really want turkey.

And I really want all of Africa, but we don't always get what we want do we?

And I really want all of Africa, but we don't always get what we want do we?

oh, you dont understand...
The GGA will go to great lengths to secure turkey

oh, you dont understand...
The GGA will go to great lengths to secure turkey

If those lengths involve losing thousands of troops then yes. Considering Turkey has an advanced army, navy, and airforce.

post is up candistan. the weight now falls on your shoulders.

post is up candistan. the weight now falls on your shoulders.

Replied.

I hope you do understand that Esterreich technically has Leopard 2s and therefore he can say he has alot of Leopard 2s. He also has F-16s, and alot of other American Equipment.

Replied.

same. Can't wait to see the WEF and the NAR get involved. This might move faster than the other war, at least if the KoE gets on

same. Can't wait to see the WEF and the NAR get involved. This might move faster than the other war, at least if the KoE gets on

If he doesn't, I'll take over. And I'll make every mile a grueling, bloody, and long fight. Every. Freaking. Mile.

I hope you do understand that Esterreich technically has Leopard 2s and therefore he can say he has alot of Leopard 2s. He also has F-16s, and alot of other American Equipment.

If those lengths involve losing thousands of troops then yes. Considering Turkey has an advanced army, navy, and airforce.


Why is it that at evrything i do, you have to talk shit to me? Im not the one her who gives myself a 55% GDP boost. I don't team up with the NAR and the UR so i can be protected from everyone else. Can you leave me alone for once? Im putting a lot of effort into this crap and i don't want to hear about troop losses. If worst came to worst i could always use the old practices from WW2, where you enlisted soldiers from the countries you conquered...

I hope you do understand that Esterreich technically has Leopard 2s and therefore he can say he has alot of Leopard 2s. He also has F-16s, and alot of other American Equipment.

Even I have Leopard 2's. Yeah, The UR has about 154 L2A4's from Finland. W00T!

same. Can't wait to see the WEF and the NAR get involved. This might move faster than the other war, at least if the KoE gets on

if you invade Iran we will counter invade Iran turning Iran into one big battleground...that'd be interesting

If he doesn't, I'll take over. And I'll make every mile a grueling, bloody, and long fight. Every. Freaking. Mile.
Thank you, as is I've got so much to keep track of that it's a wonder I'm as up to date on this Earth as I am. Yeah, I doubt Erstereich will log on in time, but my inbox is lower so I should notice if he does TG me wanting back in...:rolleyes:

If he doesn't, I'll take over. And I'll make every mile a grueling, bloody, and long fight. Every. Freaking. Mile.

omfg, read my last post.

what is your problem with me?
I dont do this shit to you.

if you invade Iran we will counter invade Iran turning Iran into one big battleground...that'd be interesting

no, not Iran, that belongs to Silvado, but Iraq and Kuwait.

omfg, read my last post.

what is your problem with me?
I dont do this shit to you.

I just don't like nubs. :D

You started it. :p

The WEF is now involved, and we have implicated the Yugoslavian states in the attacks. Though, we would prefer to enquire some land diplomatically first, or at least do talks, so don't get all angry with us yet - though politically we have done nothing different to what America did to Afghanistan, and no one tried to stop them for that.

Also, TA nations, try and at least support us publically, if not with military. :)

Guys, what's the final judgment on China? Is Eralineta still in? If not, is the former government still around ICly, or has it collapsed/been replaced? Now would be the ideal time to take some land back, what with all the major powers occupied with other things and all. :D In all seriousness, though, i'm planning on asking nicely for Inner Mongolia, so I need to know who i'm asking and what i'm up against militarily if I don't get what I want.

Guys, what's the final judgment on China? Is Eralineta still in? If not, is the former government still around ICly, or has it collapsed/been replaced? Now would be the ideal time to take some land back, what with all the major powers occupied with other things and all. :D In all seriousness, though, i'm planning on asking nicely for Inner Mongolia, so I need to know who i'm asking and what i'm up against militarily if I don't get what I want.

Erm, there has been no word but I think that we can assume Eralineta is out. I think the general plan is that China is sort of divided and in a civil war kind of thing, so I don't think it's really about asking - you'd probably have to invade. Though, I can't confirm this.

Also, I posted in my factbook yesterday in response to you, if you want to reply.

Thank you, as is I've got so much to keep track of that it's a wonder I'm as up to date on this Earth as I am. Yeah, I doubt Erstereich will log on in time, but my inbox is lower so I should notice if he does TG me wanting back in...:rolleyes:

:P I may take over Yugoslavia as well and rp for them. And I will stick to my word, every freaking mile. My first order of business, showing the GGA that Esterreich isn't something that will just roll over and die.

So, I am thinking that Esterreich will have around 1,000 Leopard 2s and 700 T-72s, possibly more of both. It will also employ around 500 F-16s and 100 F-4 II Phantoms as fighter bomberes. I haven' decided on what kind of helicopter they use or what APC they will use. It's hard to choose against Russian and American equipment.

:P I may take over Yugoslavia as well and rp for them. And I will stick to my word, every freaking mile. My first order of business, showing the GGA that Esterreich isn't something that will just roll over and die.

The guy who runs them is one a bit, so for now Yugoslavia does not need your assistance in RPing. Though it may in the future. :)

Ok time to pick some things apart.

Kampfers, where did you get EMP Bombs? Currently on the US is testing with them and even then only testing with a few field tests, namely Desert Storm. No one else, apart from maybe Russia but theres no information from them, is even working on one. And, I beleive, that the bomb the US used in Desert Storm was dropped from B1-B Medium Bomber, not fighter jets.

I am still going to RP them hitting the city, but if they are being dropped from fighter jets then I am going to consider them very small and the effect likewise. Portion of the city will be without power, chaos will reign in the streets, ect, ect.

Ok time to pick some things apart.

Kampfers, where did you get EMP Bombs? Currently on the US is testing with them and even then only testing with a few field tests, namely Desert Storm. No one else, apart from maybe Russia but theres no information from them, is even working on one. And, I beleive, that the bomb the US used in Desert Storm was dropped from B1-B Medium Bomber, not fighter jets.

I am still going to RP them hitting the city, but if they are being dropped from fighter jets then I am going to consider them very small and the effect likewise. Portion of the city will be without power, chaos will reign in the streets, ect, ect.

Lol, dude maybe it's just me being overly laid back but man, your kinda bweing a killjoy. Don't worry about every little fact, have fun just RP. I know you want your nation to prosper but at the extent of what? A fact checking RP? Come on, just play...

I'd like to make it clear that the WEF is not at war with either nations yet - my wording in the speech was a bit strange. We are planning to join a GGA for there attack whilst pressuring the Yugoslavian states into surrending or coming to some kind of diplomatic agreement, if they don't, then we will declare war and attack.

Lol, dude maybe it's just me being overly laid back but man, your kinda bweing a killjoy. Don't worry about every little fact, have fun just RP. I know you want your nation to prosper but at the extent of what? A fact checking RP? Come on, just play...

Would you mind if I suddenly decided to drop a nuke on you? Probably not, mainly considering I don't have nukes. If you allow people to have stuff they haven't rped for it makes everything just a huge wankfest.

Would you mind if I suddenly decided to drop a nuke on you? Probably not, mainly considering I don't have nukes. If you allow people to have stuff they haven't rped for it makes everything just a huge wankfest.

Notice i said, every little fact. Like using a plain from another country or somthing, dose that make a diff? No. Dose pretending you have a nuke make a diff.? Yes

Notice i said, every little fact. Like using a plain from another country or somthing, dose that make a diff? No. Dose pretending you have a nuke make a diff.? Yes

Yes it does. And if you had noticed I stated that I was going to rp the bombs actually being dropped.

Ok, dude i really don't want to argue over somthing trival. Sorry i interuppted your rp.

On the thing with Turkey and the invasion of the Balkans....remember that I control Israel. Which, is right next to Syria and Turkey. I could, and most probably will, get involved. Just not yet.

Oh, by the way, I've answered TG's and my factbook. Hope you like my answer, AB!

Granate, you are RPing Erstreich, right? I left a deal in the thread that the Erstreich Gov't might want to consider since it allowes them to stay in power, even if it is only for a fraction of their country.

wow. does nobody read what i rp, or what?
I had rped having my borders completely covered by my armed forces. So you wouldn't be able to walk right into Hungary. This is starting to become grade a bullshit. And about EMP bombs - if you even hit one lightbulb with an EMP bomb, the surge would be transferred to any object or powerline the bulb is connected to. This would effectively spread the damage over a large area. And on civilian materials, i garuntee it could knock out a whole cities powergrid.

Look, im willing to put aside my differences with you if you do the same for me.

Ok fine the city is out. But, my troops are not near the city so all it did was put the lights on a city.

Also, my troops haven't entered Hungary.... yet. We just began an attack. My F-4 Phantoms are the only thing in your territory right now.

Cookesland is the latest member of the TA, probably one of the last, unless anyone else joins the game. He'll be our guy in Africa :p

A guy who happens to be surrounded by two Entente members...

Granate, did you get the UR's deal to the KoE gov't yet?

Sorry for the delay. My father been in the hospital for an operation. I'll get a post up by tonight though.

(lol sorry ab)

Granate, did you get the UR's deal to the KoE gov't yet?

Yea, you're not going to like the Answer.

Yea, you're not going to like the Answer.

Aw, damn.

A guy who happens to be surrounded by two Entente members...

Although you did criticize my actions in Tunisia Granate....I understand that being in an alliance doesn't make all our policies and ideals the same, but then being technically a hypocrite about it....

Since I didn't know you were really a full member of the Entente before, and my government....ah, "criticized" your hypocracy, just to make things right ICly (I totally get it oocly - but it would be hypocritical of me to suddenly change my views on a different nation/policy) say that you were wrong or something - that way, our nations can be ICly and OOCly together against.....certain threat/s that have popped up in Africa.

edit: I'm not trying to be an ass about it - but just to make things more realistic. Unless you don't want us to work together in Africa in hopes of vanquishing the CAE - or at least not losing any African wars against the TA.

Senders: Sorry for the rush, I didn't know. Take your time, RL is far more important than NS is.


Kamp: Responded to your TG. Please share that info with the WEF to avoid "little incidents". Otherwise, this Cold War will get Hot fast.

Senders: Sorry for the rush, I didn't know. Take your time, RL is far more important than NS is.


Kamp: Responded to your TG. Please share that info with the WEF to avoid "little incidents". Otherwise, this Cold War will get Hot fast.

Now you've got me interested, how about you TG me about it.

Ok. Be right there (I don't believe Jolt. I posted the post I just put up last night, and the stupid forum never even noticed it).

Ok. Be right there (I don't believe Jolt. I posted the post I just put up last night, and the stupid forum never even noticed it).

You've got TG!

I feel left out of this TG party :(

WEF: You've been TGed.

Candistan: I'll hit you up with one (I need to, anyway).

w00t

I feel left out of this TG party :(

You've got TG!

I happened to open the box right when you sent it. Replied!

Futuris: Responded.

Hit you up, Candistan.

I happened to open the box right when you sent it. Replied!

Futuris: Responded.

You've both got TG!

Back, I mean. By the way...does this mean that Fusing the Spark is mainly for the South American conflict, while Unification of Africa is kinda....going away, unless Cookesland invades me. And Operation Renewal for the conflict here....great.

There are three contintental conflicts, though the European conflict has helped you a bit Futuris - it means now if Cookeslands does try to invade you, or you try to invade him or take more land, military wise we'll be less effecting in stopping you as we don't want to fight two major wars.

AB, I replied.

What's this? TGs? And none for the Dominion? For Shame.

Both TG's replied.

There are three contintental conflicts, though the European conflict has helped you a bit Futuris - it means now if Cookeslands does try to invade you, or you try to invade him or take more land, military wise we'll be less effecting in stopping you as we don't want to fight two major wars.

Wow. Thank you for pointing that out for me.

*Hatches evil plan*

You've both got TG!

Back, I mean. By the way...does this mean that Fusing the Spark is mainly for the South American conflict, while Unification of Africa is kinda....going away, unless Cookesland invades me. And Operation Renewal for the conflict here....great.

Yup. Fusing the Spark is also going to turn into my Conquer-the-Carribbean thread.

Futuris and AB, I replied to your TG's.

TGed everyone back

Granate, if you want the Dominion to get involved, I could have some opportunities from you...

TGed everyone back

Granate, if you want the Dominion to get involved, I could have some opportunities from you...

O Rly?

AB, I replied.

O Rly?

Si. I'll hit you up.

Both TG's replied.

Futuris and AB, I replied to your TG's.

You've both got TG!

*Enjoys TG Fest*