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Who the hell is espartania?

I'll let you TG him so I can go find that Tunisia thread...

responded a post before to the rest.
Done. Hopefully he'll respond soon, since as is the other II's have my TG box going crazy lately; OOC diplomatic checks and double-checks galore...:headbang:

Whoa, didn't even notice-post 1000!

I wish Marx came back soon. This suspense is killing me.

I just looked at the map, and if Erstreich is gone, then I may just take a small Caucasus landgrab. By the way, Maybe we should keep some of these countries open should new RPers decide to choose them.

There, probably shouldn't be any large claims of land for a while, unless they are like Tunisia. Where it is surrounded almost completely by one country.

There, probably shouldn't be any large claims of land for a while, unless they are like Tunisia. Where it is surrounded almost completely by one country.

Makes things easier. ;)

Makes things easier. ;)

Don't mess with me. I am pretty much the only other African Country that can oppose you.

Makes things easier. ;)

For sure.

Don't mess with me. I am pretty much the only other African Country that can oppose you.

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Don't mess with me. I am pretty much the only other African Country that can oppose you.

I'm sure your European friends will save you. But if it came down to a 1 vs. 1 conventional warfare type situation (I win in case we use nukes) I think that my country would emerge the clear victor. Or at least the victor, you know.

Oh, snap. I forgot he has Israel. Now it's getting scary...Islamic Zealots with nukes. But Granate could have it in his history that South Africa never disbanded its nuke program.

Oh, snap. I forgot he has Israel. Now it's getting scary...Islamic Zealots with nukes. But Granate could have it in his history that South Africa never disbanded its nuke program.

Well, you generally write your history at the same time you first make your factbook. "Writing" your alternate history in your head, constantly changing and evolving it as players give you ideas is in my opinion a bit on the godmodding side. I wrote my history when I created my factbook - and have not changed it since.

edit: On the "scary" point of fanatic Muslims with nuclear weapons.....exactly.

Yeah, true. It might be in his history though, I haven't read through it yet.

He doesn't have an alternate history written down though. He told us about the whole "Europe didn't colonize Africa" deal, and we're fine with that because he told us that the day he made his factbook. But adding "Well, you see, I have nukes now too" a week later isn't fair and shouldn't be accepted as his history.

Well, you generally write your history at the same time you first make your factbook. "Writing" your alternate history in your head, constantly changing and evolving it as players give you ideas is in my opinion a bit on the godmodding side. I wrote my history when I created my factbook - and have not changed it since.

Yeah, true. It might be in his history though, I haven't read through it yet.

Europeans did colonize Africa, atleast South Africa. But my history says that unlike what happened in real life, African Industries were actually developed.

Nukes: Don't have them. Probably never will.

He doesn't have an alternate history written down though. He told us about the whole "Europe didn't colonize Africa" deal, and we're fine with that because he told us that the day he made his factbook. But adding "Well, you see, I have nukes now too" a week later isn't fair and shouldn't be accepted as his history.

100% true. It's too late for him to post it now, so just go on as you were. I still want to see a fight though. It'd spice up the ESS world a bit.

I don't think at least any of the major powers should make a claim now, as we (especially you Russia ;) have all the land for the moment, and if these countries don't come on we can just invade them as part of some imperial conquest or something.

Basically, I agree with Granate.

Also, I really think there should be some fight over Tunisa - I think it would be farely even, and plus you could both call on allies...

I don't think at least any of the major powers should make a claim now, as we (especially you Russia ;) have all the land for the moment, and if these countries don't come on we can just invade them as part of some imperial conquest or something.

Basically, I agree with Granate.

Also, I really think there should be some fight over Tunisa - I think it would be farely even, and plus you could both call on allies...

Wait....allies? I have allies?

Ones that are able to help me in Tunisia at the moment, I mean. No offense Marx.

Europeans did colonize Africa, atleast South Africa. But my history says that unlike what happened in real life, African Industries were actually developed.

Nukes: Don't have them. Probably never will.

Oh yeah, I agree with the industrial parts - I myself wrote one where Europe tried to colonize my country, but were repelled by the strong central government. I also harbor a "distaste" for Europe due to that fact and also what happened during WWII.

100% true. It's too late for him to post it now, so just go on as you were. I still want to see a fight though. It'd spice up the ESS world a bit.

I think that he's allowed to say that his country was better industrialized than it was back then, and it was now, as he stated this around the same time he made his factbook.

As for the fight...well I have yet an alliance to join. If I ever will. Tell me, Candistan....your nation is fascist?

As for the fight...well I have yet an alliance to join. If I ever will. Tell me, Candistan....your nation is fascist?

Yeah, it is. I decided to switch things up a bit instead of having the traditional communist Russia. Pretty much like Putin making Russia a single-party republic and focusing on the economy more to keep it more stable from the crash in the early '90s.

Yeah, it is. I decided to switch things up a bit instead of having the traditional communist Russia. Pretty much like Putin making Russia a single-party republic and focusing on the economy more to keep it more stable from the crash in the early '90s.

Interesting. And you are working together with the NAR.

In this case, AB has mentioned that the NAR is both a democracy, and maybe a little something more underneath. So, AB, is the NAR fascist, democratic, or a little something in between?

Wait....allies? I have allies?

Ones that are able to help me in Tunisia at the moment, I mean. No offense Marx.

I think he's democratic. The two big alliances are basically a mix up of nations (eg. The Third Alliance has the WEF, a corrupt captilist democracy, GGA, a fascist dictatorship and Wagdog who is Communist - NAR is democratic, Russia is fascist etc.).

I forgot you didn't really have allies, but you don't really need them - I doubt anyone will actually try and stop you with military foce other than maybe South Africa.

Hello all, im am back.....


Anyhow whats going on? im i still the only front in this war? sigh :( :p

Hello all, im am back.....


Anyhow whats going on? im i still the only front in this war? sigh :( :p

I think so ;)

Nothing much has happened, the Third Alliance has recruited a bit more, the Americans, Russians and Indians seem to be developing something spacey - and oh, he's desperate to invade you. Plus something’s happening in Africa as the WEF and Futuris are bargaining to see who can win over Tunisia.

I think so ;)

Nothing much has happened, the Third Alliance has recruited a bit more, the Americans, Russians and Indians seem to be developing something spacey - and oh, he's desperate to invade you. Plus something’s happening in Africa as the WEF and Futuris are bargaining to see who can win over Tunisia.

Well we mobalised to our border against posable invasion from the middle east. and Vetaka has opened a Ecoterrorist cell and China is still extreamly quiet

Interesting. And you are working together with the NAR.

In this case, AB has mentioned that the NAR is both a democracy, and maybe a little something more underneath. So, AB, is the NAR fascist, democratic, or a little something in between?

It's technically a Representative Democracy, but the Intelligence Agency, OMI, is pulling the strings to meet their own little agenda when it comes to big events. I can't exactly call that fascist, but it's not exactly the Land of the Free when there's a shadow group with a lot of power.

AB and Animarnia: Have you both seen my proposals in your respective Factbooks?

AB and Animarnia: Have you both seen my proposals in your respective Factbooks?

Now I have. I'll respond in the General IC thread.

AB and Animarnia: Have you both seen my proposals in your respective Factbooks?

just read :) and replied in my factbook now

It's technically a Representative Democracy, but the Intelligence Agency, OMI, is pulling the strings to meet their own little agenda when it comes to big events. I can't exactly call that fascist, but it's not exactly the Land of the Free when there's a shadow group with a lot of power.

And you are working together in an alliance with a fascist regime?

Surely, your political differences should mean something? Then again, maybe not...

They don't like Communism, which in turn brings them together. :B

And although my government doesn't like Dictatorships, we don't mind Facist Governments like the URs.

In your invasion of Diego Garcia, are we sticking to the facts of whats there in real life, because apparently the US and the UK have a joint military base there.

In your invasion of Diego Garcia, are we sticking to the facts of whats there in real life, because apparently the US and the UK have a joint military base there.

Would the WEF and NAR agree to have a military base together? If the current relations are anything to go by then probably no. Also if we go by whats in real life then Guam is controlled by the NAR and the NAR has bases all across the world. Namely in Korea, Germany, and Italy.

Would the WEF and NAR agree to have a military base together? If the current relations are anything to go by then probably no. Also if we go by whats in real life then Guam is controlled by the NAR and the NAR has bases all across the world. Namely in Korea, Germany, and Italy.
Yah. So, DG is probably just a "rogue island" now; with TONS of stuff in the offing for whoever claims it. Of course, I'd have to RP the rebels (perhaps a mad Brit with serious "I am King, KING I tell you!":p tendencies?), but I think that could be done fairly easily. Should we swap out the US stuff for British or wha'?:confused: It'd be one-to-one since the quality factor is essentially the same...

Would the WEF and NAR agree to have a military base together? If the current relations are anything to go by then probably no. Also if we go by whats in real life then Guam is controlled by the NAR and the NAR has bases all across the world. Namely in Korea, Germany, and Italy.

So I guess there isn't a base there in this world... ;)

ok, well if i invade KoE (look back a little later), I want most of the land since i will be taking point in the attack. Say, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, and Kuwait.
The rest ya'll can keep. But i wouldn't need much help.

ok, well if i invade KoE (look back a little later), I want most of the land since i will be taking point in the attack. Say, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, and Kuwait.
The rest ya'll can keep. But i wouldn't need much help.

What part of not claiming anythind large did you not understand?

And you will need help, the Balkans people are very, if not the most, fanatical fighters you may ever meet. War is a way of life to them.

oh, and syria would be nice too.

So I guess there isn't a base there in this world... ;)
Oh there IS a base there, that's part of how this Earth works. But "who controls it" is a very good question, since right now it's an NPC base with NPC weapons. If a player wanted to claim Diego Garcia right off, they'd get that base and all it's l33t b0mbz0rs and things just like I did with Guam.:D Then they could do the swapping for whatever they wanted so long as it followed the vague rules specified in the OP. But yes, there is more than just a nicely-placed island there to grab; assuming the NPC regime doesn't make you pay too much using that stuff, since all of the claimants are well-past the "claim edit" stage by now and I'd have to RP some opposition as per my mod obligations...:mp5:

Oh there IS a base there, that's part of how this Earth works. But "who controls it" is a very good question, since right now it's an NPC base with NPC weapons. If a player wanted to claim Diego Garcia right off, they'd get that base and all it's l33t b0mbz0rs and things just like I did with Guam.:D Then they could do the swapping for whatever they wanted so long as it followed the vague rules specified in the OP. But yes, there is more than just a nicely-placed island there to grab; assuming the NPC regime doesn't make you pay too much using that stuff, since all of the claimants are well-past the "claim edit" stage by now and I'd have to RP some opposition as per my mod obligations...:mp5:

Theres barely 5,000 people on the island.

What part of not claiming anythind large did you not understand?

And you will need help, the Balkans people are very, if not the most, fanatical fighters you may ever meet. War is a way of life to them.

its not a claim. Its an invasion...

its not a claim. Its an invasion...

Argh, I said don't invade anything purely because you want to have more land. And before you say anything, the NAR's invasion is different' Alot of rping went into it. Yours is purely because you feel the need to have a larger country.

Theres barely 5,000 people on the island.
Enough for a rogue military unit; or even super-heavily-armed pirates, maybe?:confused: Seriously, if we start saying there's nothing there at all then we start a dangerous precedent which could be used against new players claiming equally-unused land. This Earth is here so players can grab territories, the people and stuff thereupon as is or was whenever they decide to have claimed it, and get to RPing without too many of these "realism" debates holding them back.

Argh, I said don't invade anything purely because you want to have more land. And before you say anything, the NAR's invasion is different' Alot of rping went into it. Yours is purely because you feel the need to have a larger country.

And mine wouldn't have a lot of rping? im gonna work at it, I just wanted to talk 2 my alliance members first... We started this conversation yesterday, and i wanted to finish it today. Then I would start the process.

Enough for a rogue military unit; or even super-heavily-armed pirates, maybe?:confused: Seriously, if we start saying there's nothing there at all then we start a dangerous precedent which could be used against new players claiming equally-unused land. This Earth is here so players can grab territories, the people and stuff thereupon as is or was whenever they decide to have claimed it, and get to RPing without too many of these "realism" debates holding them back.

I just have a lot of trouble believing an Island of 5,000 people has 2 B-52s, 3 B-1B Bombers and 4 F-16s. Those things cost more to maintain then the entire island itself has in money.

And mine wouldn't have a lot of rping? im gonna work at it, I just wanted to talk 2 my alliance members first... We started this conversation yesterday, and i wanted to finish it today. Then I would start the process.

How about we don't invade the land and leave it for new players? If not, I'll personally rp the resistance and make it so that your soldiers bleed for every inch of land they try and take.

How about we don't invade the land and leave it for new players? If not, I'll personally rp the resistance and make it so that your soldiers bleed for every inch of land they try and take.

That would actually make a pretty interesting RP.

I just have a lot of trouble believing an Island of 5,000 people has 2 B-52s, 3 B-1B Bombers and 4 F-16s. Those things cost more to maintain then the entire island itself has in money.
For what it's worth, they don't have to be operational, although I admit that would make for an interesting claim fight, eh?;) I'm simply stating that they're there in some capacity, whether flightworthy or cannibalized to "hangar queen" status or whatever.
The problem however is that technically I have to RP some resistance to you, since there will be NO unchallenged claims on this Earth once a player has set their initial stuff up. I've seen too many claim-godmodding RPs, and they ruin things faster than even inactivity I do declare. Besides, the aircrafts' price tag wouldn't be too much of an issue except for years after the island "went rogue" due to all the prepositioned munitions and stocks on the island. Those are there too, so you have to reckon with how much of the supplies and weapons you want to destroy in order to claim what's left after the dust settles.
The "Succession of States" bit for this Earth applies literally; if it's there IRL, or during the period you wanted to claim it in any AH you write, then it's there here as well and is waiting for somebody to claim it. Questions about the "5,000 people" bit may apply, but as I said Diego Garcia (like Guam) can sidestep that for special reasons pertaining to prepositioned supplies as part of RL defense planning. So as the Mod I ask, since there is a 5,000-strong rogue population on Diego Garcia with all those weapons, and the supplies to operate them at least briefly, what sort of enemy would you like to face in order to press this claim of yours properly?

Woah Kampfers! That's a lot of land there, and I'm sure the WHOLE world would not be pleased if you invaded that much. You already have a big claim as it is. And also, what other land is there to be invaded! Though, I'm greedy and would support you if supplied with Greece and the Yugoslavian states. Plus it would make it more interesting certainly...

How about we don't invade the land and leave it for new players?

That is a good point - though not many of them have showed up recently, we could free up the land from the people who aren't active...

I think this is a lot more risky than what NAR are doing (plus NAR probably won't control the SA states for long).

For what it's worth, they don't have to be operational, although I admit that would make for an interesting claim fight, eh?;) I'm simply stating that they're there in some capacity, whether flightworthy or cannibalized to "hangar queen" status or whatever.
The problem however is that technically I have to RP some resistance to you, since there will be NO unchallenged claims on this Earth once a player has set their initial stuff up. I've seen too many claim-godmodding RPs, and they ruin things faster than even inactivity I do declare. Besides, the aircrafts' price tag wouldn't be too much of an issue except for years after the island "went rogue" due to all the prepositioned munitions and stocks on the island. Those are there too, so you have to reckon with how much of the supplies and weapons you want to destroy in order to claim what's left after the dust settles.
The "Succession of States" bit for this Earth applies literally; if it's there IRL, or during the period you wanted to claim it in any AH you write, then it's there here as well and is waiting for somebody to claim it. Questions about the "5,000 people" bit may apply, but as I said Diego Garcia (like Guam) can sidestep that for special reasons pertaining to prepositioned supplies as part of RL defense planning. So as the Mod I ask, since there is a 5,000-strong rogue population on Diego Garcia with all those weapons, and the supplies to operate them at least briefly, what sort of enemy would you like to face in order to press this claim of yours properly?

I understand that. I am just saying I can't see an Island of 5,000 people keeping B-52s and B-1B Bombers Operational. For one thing they suck up alot of fuel. Fuel the island probably doesn't have.

I am willing to concede the jets, because well they won't be amazingly good and my Frigates have anti-air equipment.

Or, I could do something really mean. Send in special forces first and sabatoge the runways. End of trouble.

I understand that. I am just saying I can't see an Island of 5,000 people keeping B-52s and B-1B Bombers Operational. For one thing they suck up alot of fuel. Fuel the island probably doesn't have.

I am willing to concede the jets, because well they won't be amazingly good and my Frigates have anti-air equipment.

Or, I could do something really mean. Send in special forces first and sabatoge the runways. End of trouble.
See, now that's what I'm talking about!:cool: This works, especially since yeah the bombers would probably be cannibalized for what (few) parts might even conveivably keep the Falcons working; not to mention the munitions being reserved for the fighters. I'll be offline for a while with chores, but go ahead and get started so I can think up my 'fighting downfall' strategy...

And mine wouldn't have a lot of rping? im gonna work at it, I just wanted to talk 2 my alliance members first... We started this conversation yesterday, and i wanted to finish it today. Then I would start the process.

You want MORE land? You have Scandinavia, German speaking lands, parts of the Baltic states, and you still want more land?

Just because you're in a powerful alliance doesn't mean you're invincible. Keep that in mind. The fact that you control one of the most advanced militaries in the world, sport the top GDP per capita ratings, and being in a powerful "Third Alliance" with the rest of Europe, Mongolia, (Wagdog, I here?) and possibly Granate.......you've got under most accounts the best game on this Earth. Invading the Balkan states and parts of the Middle East is the beginning of the end. Your end, I mean. So don't do it.

@ESS Mods - I think though that a reasonable activity requirement should be placed on people here. It's up to you on how to decide, and for how long someone needs to be inactive to get themselves kicked.

You want MORE land? You have Scandinavia, German speaking lands, parts of the Baltic states, and you still want more land?

Just because you're in a powerful alliance doesn't mean you're invincible. Keep that in mind. The fact that you control one of the most advanced militaries in the world, sport the top GDP per capita ratings, and being in a powerful "Third Alliance" with the rest of Europe, Mongolia, (Wagdog, I here?) and possibly Granate.......you've got under most accounts the best game on this Earth. Invading the Balkan states and parts of the Middle East is the beginning of the end. Your end, I mean. So don't do it.

@ESS Mods - I think though that a reasonable activity requirement should be placed on people here. It's up to you on how to decide, and for how long someone needs to be inactive to get themselves kicked.

Yeah, I agree what Futuris said. Just look at my factbook. Pretty much take it like this. If they don't have anything other than neutral beside their name, then they probably arent here. And by the way, H-town, take the ANZAC states and Zambistan off the map. Zambistan is gone for good, and Vateka is now an international terrorist organization.

@ESS Mods - I think though that a reasonable activity requirement should be placed on people here. It's up to you on how to decide, and for how long someone needs to be inactive to get themselves kicked.

With other Earths/Universes, a week to a TG about activity, followed by a 2 week kick (without previous notification of absence) has often seemed a good standard.

Just my two cents on that.

Yeah, I agree what Futuris said. Just look at my factbook. Pretty much take it like this. If they don't have anything other than neutral beside their name, then they probably arent here. And by the way, H-town, take the ANZAC states and Zambistan off the map. Zambistan is gone for good, and Vateka is now an international terrorist organization.
Hmm... what happened to Zambistan?:confused: I approved Vetaka's change so that's fine, but yeah I'd been wondering in Zambistan's case. Also, I'm too hassled by the North Calaveras FUBAR to really enter the debate so AB's proposal sounds fine. Is there anybody needing this right now, AB; that hasn't been already mentioned or such, I mean?

OOC:

Excellent im gald my idea has been accepted. Ill get a Factbook posted up on the "Grass Snakes" tomorrow. I have an idea of what is happening in ESS and ill be posting accordingly but at first the Grass Snake agenda is building up is position for example setting up Offices and well Stealing Arms and Money from various governments. I respect RP boundaries like everybody should so before I ever post a hit on a bank or a Nations Arms Stores ill TG you first.

I am going to RP a terror group that is fanatical and well is generally the enemy of everybody and the pain in the backside to every nation hopefully it will lead to a good number of spin-offs from ESS players whom don't like eachother but join together to hunt the snakes down.

Anyway Thanks Again

Regards Vetaka

Oh, that war is going to start now (took long enough :rolleyes: )

I'll get a message in by the end of today and maybe a message by tomorrow. Got a debate to prepare for on Tuesday so for the next 2 days I won't paste as much.

I like your Idea AB.

You want MORE land? You have Scandinavia, German speaking lands, parts of the Baltic states, and you still want more land?

Just because you're in a powerful alliance doesn't mean you're invincible. Keep that in mind. The fact that you control one of the most advanced militaries in the world, sport the top GDP per capita ratings, and being in a powerful "Third Alliance" with the rest of Europe, Mongolia, (Wagdog, I here?) and possibly Granate.......you've got under most accounts the best game on this Earth. Invading the Balkan states and parts of the Middle East is the beginning of the end. Your end, I mean. So don't do it.

@ESS Mods - I think though that a reasonable activity requirement should be placed on people here. It's up to you on how to decide, and for how long someone needs to be inactive to get themselves kicked.

look, some ppl just TG'd me about doing it... don't be offended, holy crap man

Hmm... what happened to Zambistan?:confused: I approved Vetaka's change so that's fine, but yeah I'd been wondering in Zambistan's case. Also, I'm too hassled by the North Calaveras FUBAR to really enter the debate so AB's proposal sounds fine. Is there anybody needing this right now, AB; that hasn't been already mentioned or such, I mean?

He hasn't gone on forever, and I don't really think that the whole alien thing he had planned would have been very tight with the alien attack we are going to have on us. It would ruin the surprise.

Oh, that war is going to start now (took long enough :rolleyes: )

I'll get a message in by the end of today and maybe a message by tomorrow. Got a debate to prepare for on Tuesday so for the next 2 days I won't paste as much.

That's fine, I can wage a naval shelling of Marxikhani possessions as well as my own invasion of you.

Wagdog: I don't think anybody but Zambistan (hasn't been here for a month but has started other RPs) would need that rule yet-but Estereich may be drawing kinda close (Erilineta may too, as China).

That's fine, I can wage a naval shelling of Marxikhani possessions as well as my own invasion of you.

Wagdog: I don't think anybody but Zambistan (hasn't been here for a month but has started other RPs) would need that rule yet-but Estereich may be drawing kinda close (Erilineta may too, as China).

yeah, ive never seen erstereich or Erilineta on here

look, some ppl just TG'd me about doing it... don't be offended, holy crap man
Seconded.:rolleyes: There's room for Earths with large claims, and equally so for small; this being one of the former. Frankly, how would the USSR have gotten into being under some of the territorial restrictions I've seen on other Earths; or for that matter the Mongol, Japanese, or British Empires to boot? Some players like recreating those empires in modern form, and I see no reason not to let them. If I have to create multiples of this ESS concept to accommodate them all, super for everybody!:D
For example: Kampfers' existing claim is the largest possible take on what could constitute "Germany" (and Germans besides): all of Scandinavia, Germany both current and older (including Poland as part of Prussia), and the former Austro-Hungarian Empire. In short, anywhere a German either ruled or claimed to rule; or anywhere once even remotely part of the Holy Roman Empire/"First Reich" besides. He claimed it, and I recognized the claim both in game terms and also as a matter of historical familiarity, so that's that. And if he wins Erstereich's territories in war, then those that want him weakened shall simply have to jump in and claim a piece of the pie themselves in RP.

The alien thing is going to heat up a little bit when the Vladimir Monimakh finds the Moskva at its resting place. A lot of Russian eyes will be on the sky after that.

The alien thing is going to heat up a little bit when the Vladimir Monimakh finds the Moskva at its resting place. A lot of Russian eyes will be on the sky after that.

Sweet. We can keep up escalating that until the actual thing comes down space-side and the real fears are realized :p

Sweet. We can keep up escalating that until the actual thing comes down space-side and the real fears are realized :p

Yeah, it is going to be found listing in the water with no crew. I was planning on having strange grey dust all over the place and the smell of ozone. You get to find out what the dust is later.

Is anything else going on right now that the UR would be interested in?

yeah your surrender

yeah your surrender

Wow, tough guy huh? That's quite a gutsy statement coming from someone who I wasn't going to make a ground invasion of, but now I may have to.

Just blast him back to the stoneage with Cruise Missles. I would, but South Africa doesn't have Cruise Missles.... yet.

Just blast him back to the stoneage with Cruise Missles. I would, but South Africa doesn't have Cruise Missles.... yet.

I have. I actually gassed Lima and Bogota with BZ, but he hasn't posted the result yet. And to all of you who are like OMGZ! CHEMIKAL WEAPONZ!?1/? It isn't lethal, it is just an incapacitating agent. It gives 'em hell, though.

look, some ppl just TG'd me about doing it... don't be offended, holy crap man

I'm not offended - it's just that attacking a guy who can't defend for himself because maybe he's gone or something isn't fair. Once he gets booted, and the land lies untaken you can go ahead. Sure, I'll probably try my best to stop you - Syria is mighty close to Israel.

And lastly.....I may have reason for not liking your country other than those stated in IC. Keep that in mind - OOC reasons will influence the IC RP (i.e. if you don't like someone oocly, you might not like them icly too even without a cause).

Seconded.:rolleyes: There's room for Earths with large claims, and equally so for small; this being one of the former. Frankly, how would the USSR have gotten into being under some of the territorial restrictions I've seen on other Earths; or for that matter the Mongol, Japanese, or British Empires to boot? Some players like recreating those empires in modern form, and I see no reason not to let them. If I have to create multiples of this ESS concept to accommodate them all, super for everybody!:D
For example: Kampfers' existing claim is the largest possible take on what could constitute "Germany" (and Germans besides): all of Scandinavia, Germany both current and older (including Poland as part of Prussia), and the former Austro-Hungarian Empire. In short, anywhere a German either ruled or claimed to rule; or anywhere once even remotely part of the Holy Roman Empire/"First Reich" besides. He claimed it, and I recognized the claim both in game terms and also as a matter of historical familiarity, so that's that. And if he wins Erstereich's territories in war, then those that want him weakened shall simply have to jump in and claim a piece of the pie themselves in RP.

I understand. I'm not saying he can't do it - I'm simply amazed that he wants even more land then what he already has. You may think "Well, you're trying to get Tunisia and you've got a lotta land!" - well, if you'd think about the average productivity per square mile of Sudan, and compare it with the average productivity per square mile in Germany, there would be a very big difference. I've tried to improve my lands by building extensive railroad systems throughout, and such - but most of my country is desert. There is a limit to what can be done in a desert.

Wow, tough guy huh? That's quite a gutsy statement coming from someone who I wasn't going to make a ground invasion of, but now I may have to.

Hey i was joking...:p But i was expecting a ground invasion, though i am not complaining if there isnt one :D


I have. I actually gassed Lima and Bogota with BZ, but he hasn't posted the result yet. And to all of you who are like OMGZ! CHEMIKAL WEAPONZ!?1/? It isn't lethal, it is just an incapacitating agent. It gives 'em hell, though.

I did respond...both citys have decended into chaos, i have troops who are failing at containg the citys...how long dose it last?

Hey i was joking...:p But i was expecting a ground invasion, though i am not complaining if there isnt one :D




I did respond...both citys have decended into chaos, i have troops who are failing at containg the citys...how long dose it last?

I understand, the joke was funny, but I was planning on a huge air campaign with a possible troop invasion later.

And the Agent 15 (BZ) is an incapacitating agent that is absorbed through the lungs and skin causing hallucinations, slurred monotone speech, Hyperthermia, unconsciousness, dehydration, and uncontrollable muscle spasms. It lasts about 96 hours.

*SNIPPED Since irrelevant to my bit*.

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I understand. I'm not saying he can't do it - I'm simply amazed that he wants even more land then what he already has. You may think "Well, you're trying to get Tunisia and you've got a lotta land!" - well, if you'd think about the average productivity per square mile of Sudan, and compare it with the average productivity per square mile in Germany, there would be a very big difference. I've tried to improve my lands by building extensive railroad systems throughout, and such - but most of my country is desert. There is a limit to what can be done in a desert.
Agreed. Hence, backstab Erstereich, maybe Silvado too and grab what you want before Kampfers does.:p:D More of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi should up your productivity right quickly. I don't mind players here trying to limit others' power, in fact please do; but now that the claims are made, disputes resulting from them must be RPed. Should another player come and claim all of West Africa, I'll probably approve them similarly unless discussion afterward indicates the advantage gained truly does border on godmodding.
Oh, and I'll check the Union of Africa thread, but Tunisia's next reply comes after the WEF makes their offer too IIRC...

Agreed. Hence, backstab Erstereich, maybe Silvado too and grab what you want before Kampfers does.:p:D More of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi should up your productivity right quickly. I don't mind players here trying to limit others' power, in fact please do; but now that the claims are made, they must be RPed. Oh, and I'll check the thread but Tunisia's next reply comes after the WEF makes their offer too...

While everyone is plotting to take out Erstreichj when he is declared gone, I may as well instate order in the Caucasus before anyone else does

While everyone is plotting to take out Erstreichj when he is declared gone, I may as well instate order in the Caucasus before anyone else does
OK, but do wait everybody. I need to TG him first, so let's give him a day to reply before I figure out how to handle this side war...:rolleyes: I want the activity too, but there are proprieties to be observed and Erstereich needs an inactivity warning anyway.

Russia taking the Caucasus would be good for us, as it would provide another destraction from any invasion of there lands, plus it would make it hypocritical for it's powerful ally of America to condemn us and not them.

I'll help you GGA in your invasion, and I all I ask for is this - everything under Hungary, including Greece but stopping at Turkey. You can have Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq and, if Russia doesn't get them first, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kuwait. Basically, you have all of the Kingdom of Erstereich bar Greece, and I have the Republic of Yugoslavia and Greece - the Balkan States.

I replied to the African thread.

I replied to the African thread.
'K.:cool: I'm thinking it over, but I'll decide by tonight...;) Seriously, I need to keep things cooler here on my end since in any case I've got to wait for Erstereich before we get too much shizzle started in Europe or Cookesland for Africa (TG'ed them both this morning). Again, you'll have something soon, probably before I hit work around '6 my end (EST).

Just putting this past you guys first. Denel, South Africa's leading Arms design company, has been working on a 105mm Self Propelled Howitzer since 05. They have been doing this without any government funds. I just wanted to tell you guys this, because my factbook only puts in projects that the Government has it's hands in and this Denel project isn't one of them.

In real life the Militaries of South Africa, United States, Canada, and Australia are all really interested in this 105mm Self-Propelled Gun. The reason? It weighs 17 tons combat ready. Two of these could be transported by a C-130 Hercules, if they were in a cut down state not ready for combat. These tests were done using a special LAV-III Chasis that was designed by General Dynamics.

As I am sure I won't be allowed to use the LAV-III Chasis for this gun, I am going to use a shortened Rooikat Chasis instead. It will have 6 wheels instead of 8. It's armor will be cut down to protect it from small arms only and it's engine will be replaced with a smaller one. This will probably bring it down to roughly 18 to 17 tons, or so I hope.

Just putting this past you guys first. Denel, South Africa's leading Arms design company, has been working on a 105mm Self Propelled Howitzer since 05. They have been doing this without any government funds. I just wanted to tell you guys this, because my factbook only puts in projects that the Government has it's hands in and this Denel project isn't one of them.

In real life the Militaries of South Africa, United States, Canada, and Australia are all really interested in this 105mm Self-Propelled Gun. The reason? It weighs 17 tons combat ready. Two of these could be transported by a C-130 Hercules, if they were in a cut down state not ready for combat. These tests were done using a special LAV-III Chasis that was designed by General Dynamics.

As I am sure I won't be allowed to use the LAV-III Chasis for this gun, I am going to use a shortened Rooikat Chasis instead. It will have 6 wheels instead of 8. It's armor will be cut down to protect it from small arms only and it's engine will be replaced with a smaller one. This will probably bring it down to roughly 18 to 17 tons, or so I hope.

You should probably join the African thread Granate, it's your chance to at least have some say in something that's happening in your continent - put your viewpoint on the whole issue across or something.

I replied to the African thread.

'K.:cool: I'm thinking it over, but I'll decide by tonight...;) Seriously, I need to keep things cooler here on my end since in any case I've got to wait for Erstereich before we get too much shizzle started in Europe or Cookesland for Africa (TG'ed them both this morning). Again, you'll have something soon, probably before I hit work around '6 my end (EST).
PING!:sniper: Reply up.

Wagdog, i got ur TG and im just letting everyone know that i am still a member of ESS

Wagdog, i got ur TG and im just letting everyone know that i am still a member of ESS

How about some posts from you that are IC.

How about some posts from you that are IC.
Already done in the Africa thread, and I can be on since my job doesn't have anything available today.:D Thanks again Cookesland, now if only Erstereich could do the same we'd all be accounted for (must I really blank Zambisan?:( I actually liked his antediluvian city idea, since it kind of offered some good angles for my Tolkien Elven minority. Might I TG him too first?).

Already done in the Africa thread, and I can be on since my job doesn't have anything available today.:D Thanks again Cookesland, now if only Erstereich could do the same we'd all be accounted for (must I really blank Zambisan?:( I actually liked his antediluvian city idea, since it kind of offered some good angles for my Tolkien Elven minority. Might I TG him too first?).

Sure, TG him, but it seems as though he has forsaken this earth. I don't find it possible for him not to have seen any of our threads since they have been on the top pages pretty much from the start.

Oh no... there are two CAE's now. Well, looks like it's going to be CAfE and CAmE now...

Ok its up the: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12574268#post12574268 grass snake factbook all comments welcome.

Ok its up the: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12574268#post12574268 grass snake factbook all comments welcome.

I replied.

OOC: H-Town Tejas

H-Town Tejas would you be willing for me to do a Bank Robbery! If so could you post up a few details of which bank?

OOC: Candistan

Excellent could you post a few details of the Complex etc etc?

It is a large military prison next to a small town under the name of Byarnsk-17. Communist prisoners recently broke out and began an overthrow of the prison guards. Unable to control the situation, Byarnsk-17 residents were forced to evacuate while local police forces and the remaining prison guards staged a defense of Byarnsk-17. The NKVD and Reserve Troops are on the scene at the moment engaged in heavy fighting outside of the town. It would be possible for a group of people to sneak in the back of the town and assist the Communists. At the moment, there is not a large amount of URA personell at the area so the sooner the better.

OOC: H-Town Tejas

H-Town Tejas would you be willing for me to do a Bank Robbery! If so could you post up a few details of which bank

A bank robbery would be fine. We'll call it...the Banco Federal de Manaus, in Manaus (duh). Think your stereotypical "big bank," with a big lobby with marble floors and all, maybe a few floors above that, and a big vault in a secure room behind the teller's desks. If you need a better description, I'll attempt to draw a floor plan on Paint or something.
Do you mind if I capture one or two of your people?

Like H-town said, If you need more description, I'll draw up a map on paint.

Portugal is currently in a massive state of unrest, around 400 have been killed in riots and only a couple of weeks ago was a State of Emergency stopped. There was a thread on it. Basically, read this:

I'd be interested in that - currently there are riots in the country of Portugal due to the fact they are ignored by the WEF, and the PPF (Portuguese Peoples Front) is trying to have the government give poorer citizens more equal opportunities. Whilst my government is very pro-environmental, they could use the uneasiness in Portugal to attack there and come across with some other point, or just say I'm not environmental enough or something...

Already done in the Africa thread, and I can be on since my job doesn't have anything available today.:D Thanks again Cookesland, now if only Erstereich could do the same we'd all be accounted for (must I really blank Zambisan?:( I actually liked his antediluvian city idea, since it kind of offered some good angles for my Tolkien Elven minority. Might I TG him too first?).

Elves?

Wagdog, delete Zambistan. He just made two posts on threads that were right above or under this one. He doesn't care anymore.

Elves?

Yeah, I know. He has elves. They don't have any special powers that would change the course of a war though, so I think it's okay.

Yeah, I know. He has elves. They don't have any special powers that would change the course of a war though, so I think it's okay.

Intriguing. *looks at his very large collection of Hellsing Memorabillia*

I wonder...

A bank robbery would be fine. We'll call it...the Banco Federal de Manaus, in Manaus (duh). Think your stereotypical "big bank," with a big lobby with marble floors and all, maybe a few floors above that, and a big vault in a secure room behind the teller's desks. If you need a better description, I'll attempt to draw a floor plan on Paint or something.
Do you mind if I capture one or two of your people?

OOC All:

Because A terror group needs cash before it can do anything ive decided to RP the Bank Robbery First.

H-Town Tejas: Ill get a thread up soon. A visual floor plan will not be nessary if you could give me a brief description of the bank primarily where the vault is. The Plan is to cause a mass disturbance in the lobby and just outside the bank. While this is going on and hopefully all concerned with the diversion a number of Armed Men will enter via a "Delivery Enterance and Rob the place. I hope you will let them escape with the cash. Of course two of the robbers would get left behind so you can question them and knock them about abit that sound ok?

OOC All:

Because A terror group needs cash before it can do anything ive decided to RP the Bank Robbery First.

H-Town Tejas: Ill get a thread up soon. A visual floor plan will not be nessary if you could give me a brief description of the bank primarily where the vault is. The Plan is to cause a mass disturbance in the lobby and just outside the bank. While this is going on and hopefully all concerned with the diversion a number of Armed Men will enter via a "Delivery Enterance and Rob the place. I hope you will let them escape with the cash. Of course two of the robbers would get left behind so you can question them and knock them about abit that sound ok?

That makes sense. One problem though. Money is made of paper. And paper is from trees. Ecoterrorists don't use paper money, they use plastic! jk :)

OOC All:

Because A terror group needs cash before it can do anything ive decided to RP the Bank Robbery First.

H-Town Tejas: Ill get a thread up soon. A visual floor plan will not be nessary if you could give me a brief description of the bank primarily where the vault is. The Plan is to cause a mass disturbance in the lobby and just outside the bank. While this is going on and hopefully all concerned with the diversion a number of Armed Men will enter via a "Delivery Enterance and Rob the place. I hope you will let them escape with the cash. Of course two of the robbers would get left behind so you can question them and knock them about abit that sound ok?

For real, that sounds good. You can get away with the cash. Are you gonna start this thread?

For real, that sounds good. You can get away with the cash. Are you gonna start this thread?

I bet he's doing that right now.

OOC: Ill get up now. Before I do can I just get a quick description of the Banks position. For Example is it on a river front?

OOC: Ill get up now. Before I do can I just get a quick description of the Banks position. For Example is it on a river front?

It would be in downtown Manaus. I don't think that's particularly near the riverfront, but I wouldn't know. Just think a crowded business district.

I've edited my last post and added the military part in. Damn......I never get why me inquiring on a small country joining my nation peacefully gets more hate and disgust then a superpower bulldozing mercilessly and using chemical weapons on a helpless third world nation. And then another superpower teaming up, and doing the same. Or are our morals screwed up?

I've edited my last post and added the military part in. Damn......I never get why me inquiring on a small country joining my nation peacefully gets more hate and disgust then a superpower bulldozing mercilessly and using chemical weapons on a helpless third world nation. And then another superpower teaming up, and doing the same. Or are our morals screwed up?

Well, you know Marxikhan did declare war on me, not the other way around, so I think they view it as him getting his just desserts.

Well, you know Marxikhan did declare war on me, not the other way around, so I think they view it as him getting his just desserts.

yeah; Marx Ran off his mouth a LOT

I've added in the new post, waiting for a reply from Granate, Cookesland, and Wagdog. And if Honako has the guts, he can send a message to me too.:rolleyes:

@Candistan/Animarnia: I'm sure a little insult from a country like that of Marx's is enough to destablize your impatient governments. I, on the other hand, and not so easily tempted. :p

Intriguing. *looks at his very large collection of Hellsing Memorabillia*

I wonder...
Indeed. Essentially, my Elves (1% of my population and holding) took a wrong tack on the Straight Road to Valinor and now they're stuck in my country. I haven't decided how mortal they should be; but even if they decay like after the Third Age ended in LOTR, they're still going to last a good millenium or so each I reckon...:cool:
Also, the strangeness that brought them and the other 'mystics' or 'metahumans' (mainly vampires/nosferatu and werepeople/homochimera) to my country has affected my Human population somewhat, with about 5% of them being Dunedain-like in terms of aging slowly (my General Secretary and his wife are among these, as are a few other members of my government for related reasons that those inclined can use for IC blackmail, heh...:p). I don't think I should put Highlander-immortals in although I was tempted to do so, mainly since that's where ub3rl33tn3ss starts to show up and things get hairy to RP right...:headbang:

If you were wondering what I was thinking, I was thinking about staring up a project much like the Millenium Project in Hellsing. Manufacturing Vampires, although they won't be anywear near the power of regular Nosferatu or No Life Kings/Queens if you will.

But then again, the Millenium Project was borne out of desperation of the Third Reich, this one will be to build the Ultimate Assassin. We won't manufacture the method of turning the human into a vampire very much. We want quality, not quanity.

Also before you guys go all OMGWTFBBQ HAX! Let me say this. These Vampires, like regular vampires and pretty much all the denizens of the night, will have a extremely bad reaction to UV Light and Silver.

Oh and I can't get the thought of a Female Dominion Soldier Vampire carrying this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechem_NTW_20_mm_Anti-materiel_rifle)

All I have to say is that the UR in no way shape or form will go into making fantasy creatures of any sort. Human experimenting maybe, but no elves, vampiro, mummies, etc. for me. Oh, and one more question. My newly developed space program's pride and joy is suspected to be complete in a decade or so. How long RL is that going to be?

These aren't true vampires, more like man's attempt to make vampires.

All I have to say is that the UR in no way shape or form will go into making fantasy creatures of any sort. Human experimenting maybe, but no elves, vampiro, mummies, etc. for me. Oh, and one more question. My newly developed space program's pride and joy is suspected to be complete in a decade or so. How long RL is that going to be?

I think, for now, we're running mostly on fluid time because of the impending crises across the globe.

Launched my massive border strike on you, Sendersdale. Marx, don't worry, I'll be by shortly enough.

I was thinking of making a human engineering project for my space program in order to elongate the amount of time a person can be exposed in space without the usual side effects like muscle and bone density loss and such. The plan would be to allow someone to possibly be up there for a year or more without any side effects.

I think, for now, we're running mostly on fluid time because of the impending crises across the globe.

Launched my massive border strike on you, Sendersdale. Marx, don't worry, I'll be by shortly enough.

Yeah, my carrier group, even though it is more advanced than Marx's navy, is taking damage from his salvos of shells, I've been launching AShM's at him all day, but it seems none of them have hit :(

Yeah, my carrier group, even though it is more advanced than Marx's navy, is taking damage from his salvos of shells, I've been launching AShM's at him all day, but it seems none of them have hit :(

Just stand off at range and attack with missiles en masse-or use your aircraft to do it for you. That nullifies the gun attack (and just hold off Marx's forces with continued strikes until you pull out of range).

Just stand off at range and attack with missiles en masse-or use your aircraft to do it for you. That nullifies the gun attack (and just hold off Marx's forces with continued strikes until you pull out of range).

That's pretty much what I've been doing. (Read my defense posts.) I even gassed his ships with Chemical weapons! That was the only effective thing so far...

That's pretty much what I've been doing. (Read my defense posts.) I even gassed his ships with Chemical weapons! That was the only effective thing so far...

Do you have subs around? Try a torpedo attack, or close in with ASW and launch torpedoes with your carrier-borne Frogfoots while providing cover with ASuW-equipped Su-30s.

Do you have subs around? Try a torpedo attack, or close in with ASW and launch torpedoes with your carrier-borne Frogfoots while providing cover with ASuW-equipped Su-30s.

I have two Akula-Class attack subs going around torpedoing his ships as well as firing AShCM's at him. Plus, I have numerous jets in the air attacking his ships.

in other words only 5 or 6 more posts and my navy is decimated :p

Upon reading the posts, your Blackjacks seem to be having the greatest effect, while your air support seems to be going fairly well.

My tactical advice (OOC Knowledge, everyone):

Pull the Kuznetsov back to preserve your means of aircraft support, and pull frigates around for defense. Make a screen of the larger warships in front and lay down the lumber with ASMs. Have your Akulas go in to maximum range and deploy torpedoes.

This will force two things of the Marxikhani fleet-either they can continue to charge forward and chance getting hit by a bunch of torps (some are definately going to hit in this scenario), or they can move backwards (hereby escaping the range factor-however, this will pull them out of gun range). This will clear your ships-clearly the stronger party as far as ASMs go-to utilize that advantage and just barrage the Marx ships without suffering further gun damage. You can then pull back and continue moving to the rear while still maintaining missile attack. The battle probaly thus won't end in a total victory, but it won't be a tactical defeat, either. If you can execute this (and avoid a few ways I can see that Marx could wreck this plan), then you can pull off the strategic victory in this (by preserving your carrier and larger warships, such as the Kirov, while still inflicting heavy casulties).

Of anything, preserving that carrier should be number one (should be in every carrier-maintaining navy).

in other words only 5 or 6 more posts and my navy is decimated :p

Not if your Admiral in Charge is tactiacally efficient. Pulling back to port and using your navy in ambush attacks my work better for someone in your position.

Not if your Admiral in Charge is tactiacally efficient. Pulling back to port and using your navy in ambush attacks my work better for someone in your position.

Well, depending on if he's willing to risk that half of his fleet, he can actually wipe out a good portion of your offensive capability in the region if he plays his cards right. It'll take sacrifice on that fleet's part, but it's certainly feasible with what he still has.

Well, depending on if he's willing to risk that half of his fleet, he can actually wipe out a good portion of your offensive capability in the region if he plays his cards right. It'll take sacrifice on that fleet's part, but it's certainly feasible with what he still has.

Yeah, he could make a ground invasion a very hard gamble on my part if he plays his cards right.

Yeah, he could make a ground invasion a very hard gamble on my part if he plays his cards right.

He also holds the Panama Canal in the Axis Powers-meaning that if CAE holds me off long enough (I expect so; that's a lot of territory I need to cut through coming down from north Mexico), then he'll only be facing you-unless Animarnia or Granate wish to send relief-on the ground atm.

He also holds the Panama Canal in the Axis Powers-meaning that if CAE holds me off long enough (I expect so; that's a lot of territory I need to cut through coming down from north Mexico), then he'll only be facing you-unless Animarnia or Granate wish to send relief-on the ground atm.

Granate probably doesn't want to assist the Russians any more than letting my stuff resupply (just an observation on how he views russian stiff). Animarnia might help, but something bad would have to happen to him.

ello all, i decided to pull out of that endless naval fight, and i have a few tricks up my sleve. I hope that some more fronts get opend up though, good to see Mexico under attack. Im almost looking forward to repeling an invasion/starting insugency/paramilitary groups

Granate probably doesn't want to assist the Russians any more than letting my stuff resupply (just an observation on how he views russian stiff). Animarnia might help, but something bad would have to happen to him.

Eh? My views on Russian Equipment should not be your only observation on how I like you. It was also agreed that you can Resupply on Ascension Island and St. Helena once I have gained control of them. Diego Garcia might be different, but I doubt it will be different/ since it's going to be co-op base between the Dominion and KoA.

Eh? My views on Russian Equipment should not be your only observation on how I like you. It was also agreed that you can Resupply on Ascension Island and St. Helena once I have gained control of them. Diego Garcia might be different, but I doubt it will be different/ since it's going to be co-op base between the Dominion and KoA.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

Ja, although after what happens on those Islands, I dunno if you'd want to resupply at a damaged base.

Everyone should check out the carnage on the Czechalrussian ship. It's worth your while. :)

Everyone should check out the carnage on the Czechalrussian ship. It's worth your while. :)

You underestimate me. I've already read it.

And I've been thinking about my Millenium Project, yes I am going through with it. I dunno about using Chips, like in Hellsing, to stimulate the DNA that lies dormant in humans to create a Vampire or to use a Serum to induce the same effects.

I'll probably end up testing all of them and recording their effects on the Test Subjects. See which creates the best and most stable Vampire.

You underestimate me. I've already read it.

And I've been thinking about my Millenium Project, yes I am going through with it. I dunno about using Chips, like in Hellsing, to stimulate the DNA that lies dormant in humans to create a Vampire or to use a Serum to induce the same effects.

I'll probably end up testing all of them and recording their effects on the Test Subjects. See which creates the best and most stable Vampire.

If you don't mind me asking, what advantages and disadvantages do these vampire have (other than the obvious light and crosses and such...well maybe not crosses)?

Indeedy.:eek::cool: Will be off a while for work, but should be back in about five hours or so. Now that I've made my call in the Tunisia thread, I'm wondering what sort of reception Futuris is going to get from the other players besides the WEF, whom I guess weren't as incensed as I was ICly aiming for with my progressively more mafia-esque demands.:p Maybe the Central African Empire can oblige for some fighting in that regard, eh?

I have been thinking about having the UR make a statement, but so far, they don't have very much interest in North Africa.

Everyone should check out the carnage on the Czechalrussian ship. It's worth your while. :)
Indeedy.:eek::cool: Will be off a while for work, but should be back in about five hours or so. Now that I've made my call in the Tunisia thread, I'm wondering what sort of reception Futuris is going to get from the other players besides the WEF, whom I guess weren't as incensed as I was ICly aiming for with my progressively more mafia-esque demands.:p Maybe the Central African Empire can oblige for some fighting in that regard, eh?

If you don't mind me asking, what advantages and disadvantages do these vampire have (other than the obvious light and crosses and such...well maybe not crosses)?

Advantages:
Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Usually Aggression.
Minor Wounds Regenerate near instantaneous, like a cut.
Heavier wounds will regenerate after a while, but the heaviest of wounds, like getting your legs blown off, will not regenerate.
Can be used to create Ghouls, Undead Person who don't become Vampires. These Vampires also have the added 'Bonus' in that they can't create other vampires, only Ghouls

Disadvantages:
Extreme Reactions to UV Light, Silver, Crosses, Churches*, and anything Blessed. This goes for Temples, Mosques, and anything else remotely the same.
They need to drink blood to survive, and they are soldiers of my Government I am going to have to find blood somehow.
If they don't drink blood, they become weak.
Some psychological trauma is involved, usually alters the mind to an extent.

Again these are not true Vampires, mostly bad copies. These won't be used as rank and file soldiers. Oh no, they are way too valuable to killed in a mortar attack. Their use will be Infiltration and Assassination, and if any of the other 'other' species of the planet get rowdy.

Advantages:
Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Usually Aggression.
Minor Wounds Regenerate near instantaneous, like a cut.
Heavier wounds will regenerate after a while, but the heaviest of wounds, like getting your legs blown off, will not regenerate.
Can be used to create Ghouls, Undead Person who don't become Vampires. These Vampires also have the added 'Bonus' in that they can't create other vampires, only Ghouls

Disadvantages:
Extreme Reactions to UV Light, Silver, Crosses, Churches*, and anything Blessed. This goes for Temples, Mosques, and anything else remotely the same.
They need to drink blood to survive, and they are soldiers of my Government I am going to have to find blood somehow.
If they don't drink blood, they become weak.
Some psychological trauma is involved, usually alters the mind to an extent.

Again these are not true Vampires, mostly bad copies. These won't be used as rank and file soldiers. Oh no, they are way too valuable to killed in a mortar attack. Their use will be Infiltration and Assassination, and if any of the other 'other' species of the planet get rowdy.

Is your program voluntary? The one I am planning on putting in place for the Oka Nieba is, and it doesn't really alter them enough to be considered another species, not even a sub-species. It basically physically augments them in order to stay in space longer and raise ther IQ slightly.

Is your program voluntary? The one I am planning on putting in place for the Oka Nieba is, and it doesn't really alter them enough to be considered another species, not even a sub-species. It basically physically augments them in order to stay in space longer and raise ther IQ slightly.

Possibly. Most likely early on it won't be, we will just snatch random Islanders from one of the Islands we will by then control.

Brainwashing, eh? That's always fun. I am probably doing something similar, except I use prisoners on death row for testing instead of random folks. You get more background on the specimen when it comes from the penitentiary. Things like health records and such are good to have.

We don't exactly want the first ones to survive. If one does survive, good for it, it's just the first of a small group of Super Assassins.

Yeah, my program style would be pretty much keep trying until you get at least an 85% survival rate, then switch to volunteers. If the prisoner lives, he gets to be released into construction labor. If not, then meh, he had it coming anyway.

Aliens, vampires? Erm, not for me anyway...

Indeedy.:eek::cool: Will be off a while for work, but should be back in about five hours or so. Now that I've made my call in the Tunisia thread, I'm wondering what sort of reception Futuris is going to get from the other players besides the WEF, whom I guess weren't as incensed as I was ICly aiming for with my progressively more mafia-esque demands.:p Maybe the Central African Empire can oblige for some fighting in that regard, eh?

The WEF see's little threat in letting Futuris have one country, plus I thought I'd be kind to him as he already has his fellow African countries against him. But I haven't given up hope yet, I've been very diplomatic, but if you check the Fusing The Spark I've transferred troops to nearby islands - and will do my best to prevent any more countries succumbing to his offers of a peaceful takeover, and would probably support other African nations if they fight Futuris unless this major European war starts, which would mean my focus would be that.

Oh, and Courbonne (I think)...I sent you a TG.

Well, I have to start making an invasion force...*sigh*

I'll be gone until about 8:30 PM Central Standard Time. woohoo swim practice.

though i originaly had a small distaste for the mix of politics and fantasy, im becoming more and more interested in it. A werewolf fighting force...vampire assasains....seems like an awsome B-Movie about Nazi secret projects. If and when i fall I'll start up insurgency movments in South America, and then maybe you'll see some creepy latin American beasts like the Chupacabra?(sorry for spelling) If not the Chupacabra some kind of werewolf/vampire left wing rebellion would be kool. The character i plan on having as my insurgency leader will definetly use those beasts as tools, but think of how cool it will be! Im looking forward to being invaded :p

Marxikhani ships began their repairs were somewhere in a small bunker in Peru the government planned....


"Is the insurgency team ready" asked Chavez, he was already planning to be takin over and had a large force ready to fight for freedom.


"Yes sir, we even have the experiments you wanted..."

"Let me see them"

A few prisoners walked into the room held on chains they look quite beastly....(hint hint)

"When will they be ready? And how many will we have?"

"We will start production in a month, and we will have over 600 of them"

"Good..."

I have trouble believing this. My project hasn't even started yet and you are saying you already have done the research and the testing for it?

Hell my project will probably will take upwards of 7 years.

They arn't that advanced...they just are pumped with steiroids and....other stuff. I realese more info on that later. They arn't at all advanced and they will still need weapons.

Advantages:
Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Usually Aggression.
Minor Wounds Regenerate near instantaneous, like a cut.
Heavier wounds will regenerate after a while, but the heaviest of wounds, like getting your legs blown off, will not regenerate.
Can be used to create Ghouls, Undead Person who don't become Vampires. These Vampires also have the added 'Bonus' in that they can't create other vampires, only Ghouls

Disadvantages:
Extreme Reactions to UV Light, Silver, Crosses, Churches*, and anything Blessed. This goes for Temples, Mosques, and anything else remotely the same.
They need to drink blood to survive, and they are soldiers of my Government I am going to have to find blood somehow.
If they don't drink blood, they become weak.
Some psychological trauma is involved, usually alters the mind to an extent.

Again these are not true Vampires, mostly bad copies. These won't be used as rank and file soldiers. Oh no, they are way too valuable to killed in a mortar attack. Their use will be Infiltration and Assassination, and if any of the other 'other' species of the planet get rowdy.

I am suddenly very glad that SAD and the NAR are working together pretty well after seeing the "feeding on blood" part :eek:

The only potential secret project I could do with "super soldiers" or simply genetical enhancement would be Area 51, and splicing DNA of the best attributes of the preserved aliens with the best human attributes. However, as the war is ongoing, OMI will be playing the political strings more than anything else right now.

They won't gain muscle mass with just Steroids, they will need to have a proper diet and exercise. And they won't be that beastily, just buffy.

They're nothing like the El Chupacabra, which is a lizardly little being that sucks blood. Most sightings have been in Puerto Rico.

I am suddenly very glad that SAD and the NAR are working together pretty well after seeing the "feeding on blood" part :eek:

The only potential secret project I could do with "super soldiers" or simply genetical enhancement would be Area 51, and splicing DNA of the best attributes of the preserved aliens with the best human attributes. However, as the war is ongoing, OMI will be playing the political strings more than anything else right now.

:P Lucky you. I may have to buy Medical Blood from people, or offer Money for people who donate blood and give it to us.

like i said there was alot more to go into this and the Chupacabra was just an idea. They look a bit beasty for reasons i will explain later(in other words not sure yet) They will not b OMG HaXO$RZ, they will just be a 'weak" super troop. They will still need weapons. I will alter the post later so im alot farther in the whole development of them....

Indeedy.:eek::cool: Will be off a while for work, but should be back in about five hours or so. Now that I've made my call in the Tunisia thread, I'm wondering what sort of reception Futuris is going to get from the other players besides the WEF, whom I guess weren't as incensed as I was ICly aiming for with my progressively more mafia-esque demands.:p Maybe the Central African Empire can oblige for some fighting in that regard, eh?

Ah, well....I had a plan B in case you didn't accept. I will not specify on plan B, simply that I'm pretty sure it would have worked.

I'll get in a long post now, or just split in into two. One post on replying to the CAE (and Granate/Dominion, if he answers) and then another on an official declaration to Tunisia/rest of world, and an IC telling of my troop movements, and also just the whole package of engineers, architects, etc. coming into Tunisia, trucks full of provisions, and railroads underway. I have to go now though, so it'll be there eventually.

One question at Corbournne - Is your statement to the CAE encrypted, or can I comment on it?

Oh, and Courbonne (I think)...I sent you a TG.

(Corbournne, but yeah, I replied.)

Futuris: It is public, but depending on the Third Alliance's stance on this whole thing, I may not be able to fully fulfill its promise.

Just so everyone knows, I won't begin project millenium until I have full control of Ascension.

I also changed my post reguarding my uber troop project...they all died ;) so i have to start over so ill be on the same playing feild as the rest of you

Just so everyone knows, I won't begin project millenium until I have full control of Ascension.

Sounds cool.

EDIT: Your move on the attack, Senders.

Hey was liking the idea of an all(well almost all) horror earth, i have a thread for ideas if y'all want to check it out.

What the hell is going on? I'm gone for three hours and all of the sudden everyone is making chupacabra super soldiers! I mean come on, we need to put a cap on this. Granate is making only a few (I think). I'm not even making super soldiers, I'm augmenting airmen to serve on the Oka Nieba. One of the mods, please set some sort of limit before this turns into an uber wankfest.

Can I claim antartica and carry out my ante-diluvian nation idea?

What the hell is going on? I'm gone for three hours and all of the sudden everyone is making chupacabra super soldiers! I mean come on, we need to put a cap on this. Granate is making only a few (I think). I'm not even making super soldiers, I'm augmenting airmen to serve on the Oka Nieba. One of the mods, please set some sort of limit before this turns into an uber wankfest.

Yea, I am making only a few. And even then, they aren't super soldiers. These things are way to valuable to be soldiers. And they have very large glaring weaknesses.

Yea, I am making only a few. And even then, they aren't super soldiers. These things are way to valuable to be soldiers. And they have very large glaring weaknesses.

That's exactly what I meant. You are using a small, controlled amount. We need more like that.

That's exactly what I meant. You are using a small, controlled amount. We need more like that.

I think whoever they are used against first will be severly pissed off, because they won't be able to do anything. All but the most powerful of guns won't affect them and if they use something like a .50 Cal, the Vamp can just outrun it.

Here lies the problem with using them constantly, eventually everyone will have Silver Bullets in their guns defending important stuff, so that nullifies my Vamps. I have to use them sparingly, or else I lose my edge.

Yeah, again, that is why I decided not to make super soldiers. I made mine for the sole purpose of reducing supply runs to my space plane, thereby saving cash in the process. Plus, I didn't want to piss off people like you mentioned before.

Can I claim antartica and carry out my ante-diluvian nation idea?
Welcome back!:D Your claim still exists, so all you need is to put a factbook up post the link and I'll edit it into the OP. That done, join what IC thread you want to (Czechalrus has a nice one going with Candistan you might want to make your presence felt in, unless Granate's actions irk your nation more instead.
D'OH!:headbang: That reminds me, what is this antediluvian nation called anyway? I don't think I ever caught that the first time you floated the idea...:confused:

Hello, what is up?

What the hell is going on? I'm gone for three hours and all of the sudden everyone is making chupacabra super soldiers! I mean come on, we need to put a cap on this. Granate is making only a few (I think). I'm not even making super soldiers, I'm augmenting airmen to serve on the Oka Nieba. One of the mods, please set some sort of limit before this turns into an uber wankfest.

naw i droped my plan too, im not going to do it was a just a weird spaz moment. Don't worry

Hey heres a fun fact i have posted in this thread 142 times, seconed only to candistan who i am catching up too....i need a life:rolleyes:

naw i droped my plan too, im not going to do it was a just a weird spaz moment. Don't worry
I don't have supersoldiers, and don't intend to. My vampires are essentially "bloodsucking, ageless humans;" although most of the influential ones usually try to pawn the mythology off on unsuspecting humans so that they'll be obeyed through fear. Nonetheless, regular bullets work in large quantities and a stake (or bayonet) is only needed if one is paranoid enough to think it is.
Wagdog's elves are as in Tolkien, only with hardly any magic (just enough for the Light of the Eldar to shine in the isolated cities on my islands where they live, if even that frankly...:rolleyes:) and some seriously outdated cultural habits regarding warfare. They're great leaders when they do serve in my army (Elven recruits almost invariably end up officers at some point), but they tend to lead in the "Over the Top" and "Cold Steel" style that can get them pwned by forces more skilled in the use of support weaponry and autofire.
My werepeople are like in the old sitcom "My Life as A Teenage Werewolf;" that is, normal humans with a VERY inconvenient 'period' they go through every full moon. Since most of the animal forms available (and there are many subspecies involved, which has been murder on the were-population due to many humanoid-form couples having incompatible bestial-forms; full compatibility being needed for viable offspring) are predators, my country mandates lots of wildlife-rich park space so they can hunt when in bestial form; or else lets them maul stuff in suitable "lairs" built into were-compatible housing for the purpose, essentially asylum rooms with mauling toys and such readily available. As one can guess, life as a homochimera in my country is something of an everyday hassle; made worse if one joins the military, at which time the confinement option is pretty much it for the sake of mixed-unit discipline.
Bottom line, I introduced these Fantasy races as interesting characters rather than supersoldiers. My metahumans may be just that, but they're emphatically not superhuman...

I'm a bit unsure about this whole fantasy aspect, as long as you don't unleash them on me though I'm fine, and Wagdog's ideas sound ok.

Plus, Japan and Argentina are now in the Third Alliance pretty much unless any other TA member objects.

I get to miss school today. You probably don't... *points and laughs*

Seriously though. The Africa thing went along smoothly, although I doubt Wagdog, or whoever else is going to RP the NPC nation, is going to let me get away with it again. It's still worth trying though, eh?

edit: if you're in school, that is...

I don't have supersoldiers, and don't intend to. My vampires are essentially "bloodsucking, ageless humans;" although most of the influential ones usually try to pawn the mythology off on unsuspecting humans so that they'll be obeyed through fear. Nonetheless, regular bullets work in large quantities and a stake (or bayonet) is only needed if one is paranoid enough to think it is.
Wagdog's elves are as in Tolkien, only with hardly any magic (just enough for the Light of the Eldar to shine in the isolated cities on my islands where they live, if even that frankly...:rolleyes:) and some seriously outdated cultural habits regarding warfare. They're great leaders when they do serve in my army (Elven recruits almost invariably end up officers at some point), but they tend to lead in the "Over the Top" and "Cold Steel" style that can get them pwned by forces more skilled in the use of support weaponry and autofire.
My werepeople are like in the old sitcom "My Life as A Teenage Werewolf;" that is, normal humans with a VERY inconvenient 'period' they go through every full moon. Since most of the animal forms available (and there are many subspecies involved, which has been murder on the were-population due to many humanoid-form couples having incompatible bestial-forms; full compatibility being needed for viable offspring) are predators, my country mandates lots of wildlife-rich park space so they can hunt when in bestial form; or else lets them maul stuff in suitable "lairs" built into were-compatible housing for the purpose, essentially asylum rooms with mauling toys and such readily available. As one can guess, life as a homochimera in my country is something of an everyday hassle; made worse if one joins the military, at which time the confinement option is pretty much it for the sake of mixed-unit discipline.
Bottom line, I introduced these Fantasy races as interesting characters rather than supersoldiers. My metahumans may be just that, but they're emphatically not superhuman...

Neither are my vampires. They are Assassins and will be used to create very interesting RPs.

Neither are my vampires. They are Assassins and will be used to create very interesting RPs.
No accusations, just stating my piece regarding my vamps et al.;) Yours may of course vary. In any case, see the IC thread's last post since work messed with me and I could barely post what I did in other threads before I had to hit the sack. I'm looking up Ascension's defenses anyway, so I think this claim would go down better with it's own thread. Especially since Animarnia could join if they wanted.:D
@ Futuris: Maybe I will and maybe I won't. Depends on how I play the character of the country in question; really, I was aiming for the solution that I figured would escalate things the most, just to see how everybody handles it. Now I've got the WEF thoroughly incensed and the CAfE ready for war, with the SAD also eyeing involvement. How's that for tension, eh?:p

Animarnia is on Diego Garcia, it's a Co-op base.

Ascension, and later St. Helena, will be Dominion only bases. But I have agreed to resupply both NAR, UR, and KoA Ships and planes at said places.

Also if you want to make another thread go ahead.

Unless some of the Marianas are open, I doubt it.

Are there even any islands left in the pacific? If so, I'd like to know. I need a base...

Unless some of the Marianas are open, I doubt it.

Ah, damn. Oh well, I may have to snatch up a base in the antarctic if that is even worth it, otherwise I may have to take 'The Tits.' Yes, there is actually a pair of rocky islands in the South Pacific called the tits.

Oh, by the way, Czechalrus. Would you mind playing the lone survivor of the Moskva in the without a trace RP? That way you could basically give a recap of how the attack happened and such.

Would anyone be opposed to be claiming (preferable) or even 'invading' Iceland?

And as for the African situation, I let you off Futuris to be kind, but certainly won't in your next attempted takeover.

I want a piece of the pacific if other people have some, I might take somewhere called Micronesia, purely because I like the name - though that's not really of much importance to me currently.

Would anyone be opposed to be claiming (preferable) or even 'invading' Iceland?

And as for the African situation, I let you off Futuris to be kind, but certainly won't in your next attempted takeover.

I want a piece of the pacific if other people have some, I might take somewhere called Micronesia, purely because I like the name - though that's not really of much importance to me currently.

My advice to you is to go for it, although I would certainly see the NAR having a fit.

Would anyone be opposed to be claiming (preferable) or even 'invading' Iceland?

And as for the African situation, I let you off Futuris to be kind, but certainly won't in your next attempted takeover.

I want a piece of the pacific if other people have some, I might take somewhere called Micronesia, purely because I like the name - though that's not really of much importance to me currently.

I'm almost positive Wagdog has that. If he doesn't then shit, I'm going for it. Nothing like a race though, huh?

I was thinking...about the alien invasion. I was planning on losing ground in the west and ending up fighting a massive modern-day trench war on the outskirts of Moscow and up that general area. It would add more drama to the whole war thing with tens of thousands of people sitting in a 4x7 foor trench, holding off the massive alien onslaught.

Would anyone be opposed to be claiming (preferable) or even 'invading' Iceland?

And as for the African situation, I let you off Futuris to be kind, but certainly won't in your next attempted takeover.

I want a piece of the pacific if other people have some, I might take somewhere called Micronesia, purely because I like the name - though that's not really of much importance to me currently.
Do that and you'll be invading your own ally's territory.:rolleyes: Micronesia (aka "Shoenesia" along with Guam and the Northern Marianas as well) is mine, remember?:p However, I might not object to you owning part of Australia if I get the other part and New Zealand too now that Vetaka's a terrorist group instead of those countries...

Are there even any islands left in the pacific? If so, I'd like to know. I need a base...
French Polynesia and points east aside from the Galapagos are open, see my claim for what's taken. The Marianas are in there:p, but so long as you don't provoke a war with the Third Alliance you can have the small fry to help your war with Marxikhan et al.:D

Wagdog, is your SSN going to do anything now that my sub has left? It might be cool to have a different story coming from one of Czech's allies along with mine.

Do that and you'll be invading your own ally's territory.:rolleyes: Micronesia (aka "Shoenesia" along with Guam and the Northern Marianas as well) is mine, remember?:p However, I might not object to you owning part of Australia if I get the other part and New Zealand too now that Vetaka's a terrorist group instead of those countries...

Oh, ok, I didn't realise - of cause I won't invade it then. Though I like the idea of the Australian/NZ thing in co-operation with you, though I think my number one plan now is Iceland to expand on my European land (and the Balklands and Greece if a Euro war happens) but I'd be interested in that.

My advice to you is to go for it, although I would certainly see the NAR having a fit.

They might, though I'm struggling to think of many reasons why - it's not like I'm planning a hostile invasion and I want to install a manic dictatorship. :p

Also, I randomly copied and pasted down who is members of all the alliances if anyones interested, because I was seeing how well the TA was doing. The South American alliance doesn't formally exist, but they are all allies against the NAR-Russian-Indian invasion. Africia is the only active continent that hasn't joined one, though I can see people like Granate leaning towards the Americans.

The Third Alliance (Founders: WEF, GGA, USSW)

Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, West Papua, Palau, Micronesia, Guam, Northern Marianas, Marshall Islands, Wake Island, Nauru, Kiribati, Tuvalu, Tokelau, Samoa, American Samoa, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Germany, Austria, Poland, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Ireland, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, East Timor, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, Ukraine, Moldova, Albania, Mongolia, Argentina, Chile

South America Alliance –

Brazil, Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, French Guyana, Guyana, Suriname, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay

Entente (I think it was something like that…) –

Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Belarus, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, United States, Cuba, Canada

Wagdog, is your SSN going to do anything now that my sub has left? It might be cool to have a different story coming from one of Czech's allies along with mine.
Right now we're still inbound, ~25km away at present. I'll let Czech get some in before I post more monitoring of the Monomakh. Would you allow neutrals to use your SATCOM to inquire after the situation? Right now I have a launch center @ Kwajelein ("Pinkybrain" in my country's satirical nomenclature) Atoll, but no rockets; or at least I haven't launched anything with what rockets I might claim that were capable of using the facilities there.
Actually, might my first spy satellite launch be a cool RP?:D It might even be good (bad ICly) for Third Alliance-Entente tensions since I might use a pirated version of the Arkon system, which I doubt the GRU would be happy about for obvious reasons even beyond those pertaining to intellectual property...

Whew, lots of posts! Good shit!

Honako (or whoever it was who posted they get to miss school): College gets even better-you can skip class, and no one cares. It's great. I might skip Friday for the hell of it.

Response time:

I probaly won't have a fit with Pacific takings unless you tried to infringe on Hawaii-which is essentially my Pacific holding. I just want to basically own the Carribbean.

Candistan: Can do with the alien thing. I'll probaly be RPing the main alien invasion to just kick some ass all around. For me, I was planning probaly to have a massive fight inside either Dallas or Boston (though I'm leaning to Boston). Could go with Edmonton as well, or even Anchorage. I just want to get some NAR cities levelleled.

Honako: We're not officially the Entente, though that could be a good name for the KoA-UR-NAR thing. I think SAD may be leaning to our side, and I for one would not object to allowing SAD into the membership.

About the Australia thing: I might actually get involved to grab Southeastern Australia-I'd love to have a base there. I might deploy a CVBG to go kick some Aussies off once I finish up some loose ends in the Western Hemisphere. I haven't ruled out grabbing something like Cyprus, just to provoke some people.

Whew, lots of posts! Good shit!

Honako (or whoever it was who posted they get to miss school): College gets even better-you can skip class, and no one cares. It's great. I might skip Friday for the hell of it.

Response time:

I probaly won't have a fit with Pacific takings unless you tried to infringe on Hawaii-which is essentially my Pacific holding. I just want to basically own the Carribbean.

Candistan: Can do with the alien thing. I'll probaly be RPing the main alien invasion to just kick some ass all around. For me, I was planning probaly to have a massive fight inside either Dallas or Boston (though I'm leaning to Boston). Could go with Edmonton as well, or even Anchorage. I just want to get some NAR cities levelleled.

Honako: We're not officially the Entente, though that could be a good name for the KoA-UR-NAR thing. I think SAD may be leaning to our side, and I for one would not object to allowing SAD into the membership.

About the Australia thing: I might actually get involved to grab Southeastern Australia-I'd love to have a base there. I might deploy a CVBG to go kick some Aussies off once I finish up some loose ends in the Western Hemisphere. I haven't ruled out grabbing something like Cyprus, just to provoke some people.
Well, if you did though we'd need a volunteer to play the Aussies, since although I might be able to do my usual 'Support your local People's Revolutionary' routine I'd prefer to play just my side and not the Aussies too. Not all of them might agree with me, after all.;) Oh, and don't forget to include Guam or such once the neutrals start getting hit.:p I volunteered, and I expect the invaders to put up a hella fight on Guam, New Guinea, Fiji and the Solomons before my PKF in Kazakhstan becomes the 'WRA in exile' or such.
Speaking of which, where's Eralineta?:confused: I was hoping he'd be able to let me use the PRC to try and prevent my military from getting pwned too quickly by basing the survivors there. That way, we can have the cool image of my insurgents (my government would return to its roots once the invaders theoretically 'won') getting air support from army-in-exile Blackjacks and Fulcrums while those are (briefly) still around.:cool:

Whew, lots of posts! Good shit!

Honako (or whoever it was who posted they get to miss school): College gets even better-you can skip class, and no one cares. It's great. I might skip Friday for the hell of it.

Response time:

I probaly won't have a fit with Pacific takings unless you tried to infringe on Hawaii-which is essentially my Pacific holding. I just want to basically own the Carribbean.

Candistan: Can do with the alien thing. I'll probaly be RPing the main alien invasion to just kick some ass all around. For me, I was planning probaly to have a massive fight inside either Dallas or Boston (though I'm leaning to Boston). Could go with Edmonton as well, or even Anchorage. I just want to get some NAR cities levelleled.

Honako: We're not officially the Entente, though that could be a good name for the KoA-UR-NAR thing. I think SAD may be leaning to our side, and I for one would not object to allowing SAD into the membership.

About the Australia thing: I might actually get involved to grab Southeastern Australia-I'd love to have a base there. I might deploy a CVBG to go kick some Aussies off once I finish up some loose ends in the Western Hemisphere. I haven't ruled out grabbing something like Cyprus, just to provoke some people.

Would you have a problem with my invasion of Iceland? It won't really stop me, though I'd prefer it if you didn't. I think the Australian thing and Cyprus would be very controversial, as they are right in the middle of largely claimed areas, plus if me, you and Wagdog own Australia... :p Wow, that will be interesting.

Being the closest (along w/ Wagdog) to Australia, the GEACPS would naturally be interested in such a conquest.

Territorial Division could be like: Northern Territory and Western Australia, mine. Queensland (and New Zealand), Wagdog, South Australia and New South Wales to the WEF, and Victoria and Tasmania to the NAR.

So Wag, whats up with not posint about Ascension or Diego Garcia?

Wagdog: If you and I attacked different waypoints of Australia, you could RP my opponents, and I could RP yours. It'd be interesting, but it could also show the differences even in regions. Plenty of potential.

Australia also, if you, me, and the WEF divide it up, should be able to patch up some differences between the Entente and the TA.

Honako: I probaly wouldn't have issue with you taking Iceland. Greenland, however, will probaly provoke a response from me (probaly in the NAR taking the Western-half of Greenland to fortify holdings-since it's pretty close to Canada). Iceland's still more Europe than America.

I'd probaly make Cyprus into a small but fortified position in the Mediterranean if I did take it. I've also considered possibly the Seychelles off of Africa for a base.

Also it's best you include me as part of the Entente, although I haven't been offered to join the Alliance yet. It's very easily viewable that the Dominion, I don't call myself SAD for obvious reasons, and the Entente have really good relations.

Corbournne;12581419']Being the closest (along w/ Wagdog) to Australia, the GEACPS would naturally be interested in such a conquest.

Territorial Division could be like: Northern Territory and Western Australia, mine. Queensland (and New Zealand), Wagdog, South Australia and New South Wales to the WEF, and Victoria and Tasmania to the NAR.

I'd take that quite small plot (though it has Sydney in it) - as I might launch an invasion of New Zealand with Wagdog. :p

Wagdog: If you and I attacked different waypoints of Australia, you could RP my opponents, and I could RP yours. It'd be interesting, but it could also show the differences even in regions. Plenty of potential.

Australia also, if you, me, and the WEF divide it up, should be able to patch up some differences between the Entente and the TA.

Honako: I probaly wouldn't have issue with you taking Iceland. Greenland, however, will probaly provoke a response from me (probaly in the NAR taking the Western-half of Greenland to fortify holdings-since it's pretty close to Canada). Iceland's still more Europe than America.

I'd probaly make Cyprus into a small but fortified position in the Mediterranean if I did take it. I've also considered possibly the Seychelles off of Africa for a base.

I have no plans to enter Greenland, and if you have no issue with my invasion, I'll go ahead with it sometime tomorrow (in UK time). I think having four people in Australia will be interesting - it has the ability to improve relations or make them worse, hopefully the former.

Corbournne;12581419']Being the closest (along w/ Wagdog) to Australia, the GEACPS would naturally be interested in such a conquest.

Territorial Division could be like: Northern Territory and Western Australia, mine. Queensland (and New Zealand), Wagdog, South Australia and New South Wales to the WEF, and Victoria and Tasmania to the NAR.

I kinda like that. Tasmania has a lot of strategic value, and Victoria has Melborune, a big city. Plus it's one of the nicer regions of Australia. I could probaly work with that.
Only thing I'd probaly request is to get a horizontal run from the Western end of Victoria to the bay that juts out in South Aus. as to not leave my flank open (grabbing Adelaide-heck, NSW has Sydney and Canberra).

My advice though: Let's leave the Aussie invasion for after the current conflict (Iceland can probaly progress) and after the alien thing: that time period, with more global sentiment after a major, outside force threatens the whole world, could prove to be really cool.

As long as either Candistan or Animarnia agree (2/3 majority), the NAR will probaly offer you the option of joining up-since relations have gone pretty well so far, plus you share our expansionist mindset.

That shouldn't be too hard, seeing that Animarnia and I are co-oping a base on Diego Garcia, once I control it anyway.

Also it's best you include me as part of the Entente, although I haven't been offered to join the Alliance yet. It's very easily viewable that the Dominion, I don't call myself SAD for obvious reasons, and the Entente have really good relations.

As long as either Candistan or Animarnia agree (2/3 majority), the NAR will probaly offer you the option of joining up-since relations have gone pretty well so far, plus you share our expansionist mindset.

well the board's all set in Africa

Right now we're still inbound, ~25km away at present. I'll let Czech get some in before I post more monitoring of the Monomakh. Would you allow neutrals to use your SATCOM to inquire after the situation? Right now I have a launch center @ Kwajelein ("Pinkybrain" in my country's satirical nomenclature) Atoll, but no rockets; or at least I haven't launched anything with what rockets I might claim that were capable of using the facilities there.
Actually, might my first spy satellite launch be a cool RP?:D It might even be good (bad ICly) for Third Alliance-Entente tensions since I might use a pirated version of the Arkon system, which I doubt the GRU would be happy about for obvious reasons even beyond those pertaining to intellectual property...

We'd be willing to sell a rocket or two to you, but no current military hardware. You'd probably end up getting very early spy sattelites, if any, but I'd check in with your alliance members to get a better satellite than the one I would give you, plus with ll of the nations in that alliance, you have a large variety to choose from.

The Third Alliance (Founders: WEF, GGA, USSW)

Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, West Papua, Palau, Micronesia, Guam, Northern Marianas, Marshall Islands, Wake Island, Nauru, Kiribati, Tuvalu, Tokelau, Samoa, American Samoa, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Germany, Austria, Poland, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Ireland, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, East Timor, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, Ukraine, Moldova, Albania, Mongolia, Argentina, Chile

South America Alliance –

Brazil, Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, French Guyana, Guyana, Suriname, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay

Entente (I think it was something like that…) –

Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Belarus, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, United States, Cuba, Canada


This puts things into a grim perspective...*turns to AB and Animarnia*

We need to recruit some more people...

We'd be willing to sell a rocket or two to you, but no current military hardware. You'd probably end up getting very early spy sattelites, if any, but I'd check in with your alliance members to get a better satellite than the one I would give you, plus with ll of the nations in that alliance, you have a large variety to choose from.
Yah. Rly I was just coming up with an idea to ICly mess with you, plus perhaps have some GRU people around when it hits the fan and the aliens drop in. But a satellite tender RP would be nice, actually (hint guys: I'm a more reasonable negotiator than the IC Tunisian pres, but about as hardball still even if not thuggish:p; so you'd have to be ready to wheel-deal your hardest to get my order for boosters and sats). Business RPs can be fun if the right people drop in and they stay active enough. I'll see if I can start it tonight after I monitor my off-ESS situation some.

This puts things into a grim perspective...*turns to AB and Animarnia*

We need to recruit some more people...

Note that a lot of those nations are owned by a few people (Half the first part is all Wagdog).

I'm working on Futuris, and like I said, if you and Animarnia are cool with it, I'm up for offering Granate membership in our club.

Yeah, I'd love to have the SAD in the group.

Alright, I'll go hit up his factbook.
The whole "I recognize Tunisia" thing was my attempt to recruit Futuris-Phase I. I'll work some more on it.

Yeah, I followed suit on that one.

Alright, proposal's up. I also moved South Africa to "Green" for the moment pending the proposal-a move to "Indigo" if accepted.

I was just thinking about modern trench warfare...that might be the scariest thing I have ever thought about. Which brings up my main question, what ground armament do the creatures have? This could pretty much decide the type of war that goes on for me (and probably everyone else) and what kind of hasty defense I can throw up.

Undecided as of the moment, but probaly things that can hover.
As for infantry weapons, probaly plasma-based. Might have some physical ranged weapons as well.

Undecided as of the moment, but probaly things that can hover.
As for infantry weapons, probaly plasma-based. Might have some physical ranged weapons as well.

Plasma Weapons = More Damage at the expense of acurracy right?

Plasma Weapons = More Damage at the expense of acurracy right?

Correct; also runs the risk of overheating. Projectiles are far more accurate, but plasma inflicts burn damage and physical damage.

I have a concept for a stronger weapon for these guys; being a plasma-encased shell (I use it a lot in FT), though I'll probaly leave it out for balance issues. They'll have types of physical weapons (probaly explosive throwers and the like), but not human-like assault rifles and the like. Those will be more like plasma- or energy-based.

I am sort of hating myself right now.

I reinstalled F.E.A.R. and now I want to make a special forces group exactly like them.

Love that game...though the first few bits are kinda freeky in it when you play for the first time.

SFOD Forces getting ripped to shreds early on still gets to me.

What are SFOD?

Special Forces Operation Division, basically a Special Forces Group that is in the Video Game F.E.A.R. They are basically cannon fodder.

The ground vehicles and small craft arent shielded right? That would suck if they were independence day-like shields on each little fighter and tank.

What are SFOD?

The ground vehicles and small craft arent shielded right? That would suck if they were independence day-like shields on each little fighter and tank.

I could :P

But I won't. Not on the ground vehicles, at least...they'll just have some thick armor you'll need to punch (though I may have some shield units, but they won't be like the invincible Shields of ID, they'll be like Destroyer Droid shields from Star Wars).

I am still waiting for Wagdog to make the thread about my invasions of Diego Garcia and Ascension.

I must admit that AB's and Candistan's remarks (which are pro-alliance making) are very tempting. In fact, they are extremely tempting. So tempting, that I think I will indulge in the temptation.

By which I mean, I'll write to everyone on Friday - I have my Semester Project due on Friday, and I still need to write what accounts for about 30% of my quarter grade. Sorry - and Cookesland, can that 2 hour thing be extended until Friday, please? I can't reply right now, sorry, and my day will be really full tomorrow.

Overall, I like how things are going. Except, one big thing....

I offered a peaceful proposal to Tunisia to join my nation. Half the world now hates me.

5 different countries randomly invade islands and countries around the world. Without warning. Just pure, military invasion.

And? So far, nothing. As if no one even heard them.

So what's up? What's wrong? Why have people responded to me, but not to others?

I'm not angry (well, actually a little bit yes, especially at those who critiqued me, and now are doing the same) just curious.

ok i haven't had musch time to be on here lately and i apologize. when i have had free time, i have been playing soldierfront (essentially a free version of counterstrike).

Just to let yall know, i am beginning work on a post to kick of the european war. This should end up with me taking most of the KoE, except greece (WEF), and like georgia or something. Ten the WEF can invade iceland and theUR can expand into Azerbajan or something

oh, Honako, you want greece, then you get to do all the fighting there. They are pesky little bastards...

Overall, I like how things are going. Except, one big thing....

I offered a peaceful proposal to Tunisia to join my nation. Half the world now hates me.

(later)

I'm not angry (well, actually a little bit yes, especially at those who critiqued me, and now are doing the same) just curious.

Note one thing: the GGA has not condemned you :)

wow that list of all the various factions makes me pretty sad :( The Latin America's could use some Allies(or maybe be allowed into the third alliance wich really won't be the third alliance any more). I once again extend my offer to the Third Alliance, you wouln't have to support us we just want to be under your banner. Please don't use the excuse that you want a three sided war, because it wont be a three sided war vary long.....


you could even keep the name the third alliance(alliance from world war one(1) from world war two(2) and three (third alliance)

Futris now you feel my pain. I try to liberate some countrys and i get OMFG PWND!!!! and now SAD is just land claiming and no ones cares!!!!(btw i am still in school, and yes your lucky for staying home)

wow that list of all the various factions makes me pretty sad :( The Latin America's could use some Allies(or maybe be allowed into the third alliance wich really won't be the third alliance any more). I once again extend my offer to the Third Alliance, you wouln't have to support us we just want to be under your banner. Please don't use the excuse that you want a three sided war, because it wont be a three sided war vary long.....


you could even keep the name the third alliance(alliance from world war one(1) from world war two(2) and three (third alliance)

I would certainly consider offering you my support after the war, but it is too messy to let you in now, as we would be in the middle of a war with America and Russia, plus, ICly at the moment my nation don't really trust you much.

And Futuris: I have no plans to attack you for you trying to take countries, and I let Tunisia go for you (though Wagdog had the ultimate choice what he did). Though I also realize my takeover of Iceland is very hyprocritical, the only thing I can really say about that is the fact that at least I've had no anger around it like other African nations expressed when you invaded Tunisia.

ok i haven't had musch time to be on here lately and i apologize. when i have had free time, i have been playing soldierfront (essentially a free version of counterstrike).

Just to let yall know, i am beginning work on a post to kick of the european war. This should end up with me taking most of the KoE, except greece (WEF), and like georgia or something. Ten the WEF can invade iceland and theUR can expand into Azerbajan or something

oh, Honako, you want greece, then you get to do all the fighting there. They are pesky little bastards...

Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Greece will be my targets, as apart from Greece they seem to be the only areas you haven't expressed much of an interest in, and they are also close together. I don't expect much help from you, but a little assistance from my allies in the TA would be nice.

I'll take Iceland as a more peaceful operation as it has no official standing military.

ok i haven't had musch time to be on here lately and i apologize. when i have had free time, i have been playing soldierfront (essentially a free version of counterstrike).

Just to let yall know, i am beginning work on a post to kick of the european war. This should end up with me taking most of the KoE, except greece (WEF), and like georgia or something. Ten the WEF can invade iceland and theUR can expand into Azerbajan or something

oh, Honako, you want greece, then you get to do all the fighting there. They are pesky little bastards...

Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Greece will be my targets, as apart from Greece they seem to be the only areas you haven't expressed much of an interest in, and they are also close together. I don't expect much help from you, but a little assistance from my allies in the TA would be nice.

I'll take Iceland as a more peaceful operation as it has no official standing military.

I am still waiting for Wagdog to make the thread about my invasions of Diego Garcia and Ascension.
Sry this is so late, Jolt decided to be JOLT at the absolute worst possible time: when I was replying to you and simultaneously so tired I risked falling asleep at my keyboard.:headbang: I actually meant for you to copy-paste your old posts into new ones in a thread you start (no need for more than ESS in the tagline) since I figured you'd have the better title idea for that than me. Besides, somebody else might want to do either of the islands since I've got enough fronts to keep track of off ESS at the moment (and possibly one more if some peace talks fail and I have to aid an ally of mine...). I can handle one, probably Ascension once I research it a bit more, but if AB or a volunteer could do Diego Garcia I'd appreciate it since really this is the first Multi-NPC war we've had yet...

Wagdog - you have a lot of RPing on your hand, but if you can/want you can RP Iceland. I actually see little need too, they have no standing military and it unlikely they would put up a resistance because they are one of the few lands that have not been claimed in Europe, and they are quite Western anyway.

Though, I'd much prefer if you let me claim Iceland, so all I had to do was make maybe two or three long posts about taking over (maybe I'll buy it or something) and then it's done, with less time and effort taken over the matter. Obviously that's an easir way out, though it doesn't me I just get it without quite a bit of RPing - it's your choice though.

Wagdog - you have a lot of RPing on your hand, but if you can/want you can RP Iceland. I actually see little need too, they have no standing military and it unlikely they would put up a resistance because they are one of the few lands that have not been claimed in Europe, and they are quite Western anyway.

Though, I'd much prefer if you let me claim Iceland, so all I had to do was make maybe two or three long posts about taking over (maybe I'll buy it or something) and then it's done, with less time and effort taken over the matter. Obviously that's an easir way out, though it doesn't me I just get it without quite a bit of RPing - it's your choice though.
An RP in which you offer to buy out the area and we negotiate a price (more fairly than what Tunisia pulled, don't worry...:p) would be nice. A good break from all the war, like the space launch tender I plan to post in a few hours before I hit work (if there is any today).
But yeah, resistance would be futile since it would probably be both a bad idea and against their pacifism anyway. Post it, and I'll see if I can get the first counter-inquiry in for Iceland's side before I leave.

An RP in which you offer to buy out the area and we negotiate a price (more fairly than what Tunisia pulled, don't worry...:p) would be nice. A good break from all the war, like the space launch tender I plan to post in a few hours before I hit work (if there is any today).
But yeah, resistance would be futile since it would probably be both a bad idea and against their pacifism anyway. Post it, and I'll see if I can get the first counter-inquiry in for Iceland's side before I leave.

Ok - I'll start writing it up.

I'm..having a hard time seeing what is and isn't open lol.

Anyways, if it's fine I'll just be a Mercenary Group known as Bere-ketsueki 9.

Actually, if Japan doesn't mind I'd like to be based out of one of the Imperial territories.

If Iceland/Greenland is open, I'll just claim that instead.

I'm..having a hard time seeing what is and isn't open lol.

Anyways, if it's fine I'll just be a Mercenary Group known as Bere-ketsueki 9.

Actually, if Japan doesn't mind I'd like to be based out of one of the Imperial territories.

If Iceland/Greenland is open, I'll just claim that instead.

Greenland is, Iceland is basically not really. Some of Africa and maybe Asia is open too.

You could be like a rogue mercenary government of Greenland, as population/economy wise it’s small. Also, the reason you can’t/won’t want to be Iceland is this – I’ve posted up the takeover thread (Takeover Of Iceland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12583382#post12583382)).

Well, mind you I am a Nov 04 Nation...I could just be Iceland and repel it :-P.

Hmm, I'm sure Central Asia is pretty crappy tbh...

I was hoping to have Iceland, make Greenland a Territory and parts of Africa as Colonies. But, being that you're probably set on it :-(...unless you would allow me to RP a nice resistance and...cough...win? :-P.

So yea, I'm thinking about it. The map I found seems out of date, so if anyone has a link to one that isn't..that'd be helpful.

EDIT: I mean, you are a pretty healthy nation as far as land goes...don't think not having Iceland would kill ya.

Not to mention, I think I sort of made the claim prior to your thread's posting...that's if I'm reading my times the right way.

EDIT 2: Posted Claim at 3:42 PM, the way I posted it [the questionable style] was only such because the map confused my arse off >.>.

Takeover Of Iceland posted at 4:05 PM.

This is all going by the Forum's Time, which I believe is Great Britain Time.

I don't mean to be an ass hat of sorts, but yea...unless the Mods [ESS Mods] don't want to follow it by that :-/.

Well, mind you I am a Nov 04 Nation...I could just be Iceland and repel it :-P.

Hmm, I'm sure Central Asia is pretty crappy tbh...

I was hoping to have Iceland, make Greenland a Territory and parts of Africa as Colonies. But, being that you're probably set on it :-(...unless you would allow me to RP a nice resistance and...cough...win? :-P.

So yea, I'm thinking about it. The map I found seems out of date, so if anyone has a link to one that isn't..that'd be helpful.

Resistance for Iceland is a tad erm, impossible, as 1) they are pacifist in ideals, though you could change that, but one thing that is impossible to change in a short time is number 2) they have no real standing military.

Though, some nations with major claims are very inactive, so if your lucky you may get one of them.

Well, mind you I am a Nov 04 Nation...I could just be Iceland and repel it :-P.

Hmm, I'm sure Central Asia is pretty crappy tbh...

I was hoping to have Iceland, make Greenland a Territory and parts of Africa as Colonies. But, being that you're probably set on it :-(...unless you would allow me to RP a nice resistance and...cough...win? :-P.

So yea, I'm thinking about it. The map I found seems out of date, so if anyone has a link to one that isn't..that'd be helpful.

EDIT: I mean, you are a pretty healthy nation as far as land goes...don't think not having Iceland would kill ya.

Not to mention, I think I sort of made the claim prior to your thread's posting...that's if I'm reading my times the right way.

EDIT 2: Posted Claim at 3:42 PM, the way I posted it [the questionable style] was only such because the map confused my arse off >.>.

Takeover Of Iceland posted at 4:05 PM.

This is all going by the Forum's Time, which I believe is Great Britain Time.

I don't mean to be an ass hat of sorts, but yea...unless the Mods [ESS Mods] don't want to follow it by that :-/.

I discussed the takeover of Iceland yesterday in this very thread, so it has been planned for about 24 hours. :) I know I'm a healthy land size, but Iceland is nearby and one of the few remaining European nations and there are plans to have a European mass invasion by me and the other active Euro nations - it's hard for you to know that though as you are only claiming now. I just think that you taking Iceland would be foolish at this time because I would invade you, but major countries such as even China have not been active for a while now - which could see them opening up in the future.

Actually, you're wrong.

Iceland is built on Pacifist Ideals but it does not mean it has no military.

Iceland, however, does have a military. One that is irl actively involved in Afghanistan, running certain Provinces by it self.

As you can see, their actual 'Army' is 18,000+. But with population put into effect, and Nationalism *Even Buddhist Monks would say pick up an AK and defend your home if you had no other choice* would take into effect...I'd say *and the Wiki with CIA numbers* about 50-70 Thousand could stand up...maybe even more.

So, it wouldn't be..very difficult, per say. Anyways, I'm saying in terms of actual posting a solid 'claim' to it. Usually most places give it to someone who can prosper more out of it, IE a new member of the community.

Oh, and tell what you said to me to an Icelander's face..they'll punch you :-P.

Anyways, I'm not here to try and argue it away from you and if your ESS Mod and Vice Mod says it goes to you then oh well? I don't care, I just thought I'd make the claim.

Well, then if I were you..I'd hope that none of your neighbors open up because I don't take any attempt to prove me wrong in the lightest of heart..sorry I get it from my dad, yea I'm a dick head in a way :-(.

So..would you like some strawberry pie, sir?

OK....

I'll accept it has got a reserve force of 18,000 and a standing military of around 1,000 (I got all my info from WIKI, I obviously did not go indepth enough :p ). And yes you also have 70,000 people or so fit for the military, but even a nation like the UK, which isn't massive population wise, according to the CIA Factbook has 12,000,000. I'd be 100% fine with you taking Iceland at another time, just my invasion is under way. I suppose you can RP - but I plan to go ahead with it currently. I'd prefer you to go with someone else that's all, and there are plently of places, though if you want Iceland, I'm not going to try and prevent you from claiming it if the mods give it the ok. :) I want to be fair and all.

OOC: By the way this is Honako, I just sometimes log into this account annoyingly.

OK....

I'll accept it has got a reserve force of 18,000 and a standing military of around 1,000 (I got all my info from WIKI, I obviously did not go indepth enough :p ). And yes you also have 70,000 people or so fit for the military, but even a nation like the UK, which isn't massive population wise, according to the CIA Factbook has 12,000,000. I'd be 100% fine with you taking Iceland at another time, just my invasion is under way. I suppose you can RP - but I plan to go ahead with it currently. I'd prefer you to go with someone else that's all, and there are plently of places, though if you want Iceland, I'm not going to try and prevent you from claiming it if the mods give it the ok. :) I want to be fair and all.

OOC: By the way this is Honako, I just sometimes log into this account annoyingly.

>.> Not that I'm saying we're losing the War in Iraq, but we have well better armed and more numerous Troop count...and they're still putting up a hell of a fight :-P, I think 70,000 Able Armed would do a bit...ouchier?

I know, but honestly I sort of made up my mind after seeing my two Nation-egos taken. [France and Japan] so I went "Yay, that place of Ice!"

Oh and, *sniff* I'm not stupid :( I actually saw your three-self region and all, figured you'd post with the others ever so often.

I'm..having a hard time seeing what is and isn't open lol.

Anyways, if it's fine I'll just be a Mercenary Group known as Bere-ketsueki 9.

Actually, if Japan doesn't mind I'd like to be based out of one of the Imperial territories.

If Iceland/Greenland is open, I'll just claim that instead.
Greenland is open, although I'd actually prefer the merc option (my Japanese is iffy, but would that mean "Section 9?":cool:) since we could use a few non-state players besides Vetaka/Grass Snakes (Your two ESS avatars might become boffo enemies here, actually...:p). Still, your call; which would you prefer?

Bere-ketsueki means Blood Beret, it's my Secreter than SAS Secret SOF. But it could work as a Merc group elsewhere.

9 Derives from one of the Units with-in Bere-ketsueki, because there are 9 members in that specific Unit. There are much more, approx 73 Active Personnel with 5 extra as Secretaries and 3 as Logistical Suppliers/etc.

I'd figure I would be a formal nation but I simply wish not to impede on others, I know you two must be friends *You are RPing Iceland's defenses/etc* and you both feel that Honako should get Iceland.

If I chose to be Bere-ketsueki, then that'll be very interesting to RP out. Sadly, I won't be able to bomb the crap out of nations :-(.

Bere-ketsueki means Blood Beret, it's my Secreter than SAS Secret SOF. But it could work as a Merc group elsewhere.

9 Derives from one of the Units with-in Bere-ketsueki, because there are 9 members in that specific Unit. There are much more, approx 73 Active Personnel with 5 extra as Secretaries and 3 as Logistical Suppliers/etc.

I'd figure I would be a formal nation but I simply wish not to impede on others, I know you two must be friends *You are RPing Iceland's defenses/etc* and you both feel that Honako should get Iceland.

If I chose to be Bere-ketsueki, then that'll be very interesting to RP out. Sadly, I won't be able to bomb the crap out of nations :-(.
D00d, it's entirely your call; I was just expressing a player's preference, not speaking as "Ph3ar m3, for I 4m t3h l33t M0d!!1!1" or anything.:p If you want Greenland or any other country(ies), call them out and I'll almost surely approve it. You could be both, since you dictate your culture and all else so long as you don't mangle your RL stats (pop, GDP, &c) or otherwise godmod your country. NS tech is even legal here, so long as you try to somewhat adapt it to RL levels (preferably through discussion if any controversies arise, for flexibility's sake).

D00d, it's entirely your call; I was just expressing a player's preference, not speaking as "Ph3ar m3, for I 4m t3h l33t M0d!!1!1" or anything.:p If you want Greenland or any other country(ies), call them out and I'll almost surely approve it. You could be both, since you dictate your culture and all else so long as you don't mangle your RL stats (pop, GDP, &c) or otherwise godmod your country. NS tech is even legal here, so long as you try to somewhat adapt it to RL levels (preferably through discussion if any controversies arise, for flexibility's sake).

*cough* I'm not trying to say you're...er...puling a power monger over me :-P.

Well the map I found was rather shoddy, don't know what else there really is and Japan and France are about the only other two interests I've got. So, I don't mind being an Organization, I'm just unsure as to how well it would start out.

Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12583851#post12583851), I actually have a large aspiration to live out Bere-ketsueki. >.>!

Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12583851#post12583851), I actually have a large aspiration to live out Bere-ketsueki. >.>!
Claim being added now. Welcome to ESS!:D

Sweet, now to go do some push ups/sit ups and then set up the rest of the Factbook/Pretend Website...lol

Transnational Mercenary Organization, though how this is indicated on a map IDK...>.>

Well, once I hopefully get some contracts open with other countries you'll be able to add little dots throughout the world :-).

The Top HQ will remain hidden elsewhere in the world, could be all the HQs combined or w/e :-P.

Anyways, if there are any small islands still unclaimed...maybe I can use one of those for an HQ for now. But I'm not a transfixed country, just an Organization. So yea..>.>