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I still think the Mongolia situation would make the conflict more worldwide. The Marxikhan is good for a nuke war on the side, as a Latin American front. Japan and co. I think are willing to do the invading of Mongolia I think, though they will need allies, which is why I suggest all the communist nations join them.

I've never liked the fact that nations in the world with nukes get to tell others they can't have them - though it's obv. if that war happened Marxikhan would lose it. The WEF would never use nukes unless attacked itself with one.

so did the UR!

lol well ic i would never use them, i find that it would put to many lives innocent lives at sake, (though if i needed to use them in the most dire of situations i prolly would). That and i feel using nukes in an RP like this is a bit cheep. Any how, how come other nations can say they are using them for peace and not me!

The fact that you invaded another country already comes to mind.

The fact that you invaded another country already comes to mind.

So did the UR!

I've never liked the fact that nations in the world with nukes get to tell others they can't have them

well it might be a good thing, otherwise evrybody would n00k the crap out of each other and this world would suk

So did the UR!

but they are huge, which gives them leverage within the international community. u on the other hand...

well it might be a good thing, otherwise evrybody would n00k the crap out of each other and this world would suk

Well if we all had some, one might think twice be4 nuking another, or starting a war. With Nukes their would be more peace!(Im joking btw, though it might help in NS)

This time warping is driving me crazy...and chemical and biological weapons cost far less than nukes. The problem is containment and production and potency. Anybody can harvest a ton of people with the flu and make them sneeze on things and drop them in someone elses city, but it is far harder to cultivate plague or smallpox and send it out in another country. The same goes for chemical weapons. Somebody could easily mix ammonia and bleach, making very crude mustard gas. Now, the V-series, on the other hand, is extremely potent (less than a few mg's will kill someone) is hyperexpensive to make. And about T&T, the UR threatened to use conventionally armed SLBMs, not nuclear. They are like the ones used on Grozny in the 1st Chechen war.

Well if we all had some, one might think twice be4 nuking another, or starting a war. With Nukes their would be more peace!(Im joking btw, though it might help in NS)

Ever seen the movie "Deterrent"? that was what they thought too.

so did the UR!

The UR had a decent reason to invade and backed down almost immediately when the world went against it's invasion, it has since helped Kazahkstan like many other nations are.

This time warping is driving me crazy...and chemical and biological weapons cost far less than nukes. The problem is containment and production and potency. Anybody can harvest a ton of people with the flu and make them sneeze on things and drop them in someone elses city, but it is far harder to cultivate plague or smallpox and send it out in another country. The same goes for chemical weapons. Somebody could easily mix ammonia and bleach, making very crude mustard gas. Now, the V-series, on the other hand, is extremely potent (less than a few mg's will kill someone) is hyperexpensive to make. And about T&T, the UR threatened to use conventionally armed SLBMs, not nuclear. They are like the ones used on Grozny in the 1st Chechen war.

ur also gonna get a lotta hell if u do crap like this...

ur also gonna get a lotta hell if u do crap like this...

Were you talking to me or Marx?

well it might be a good thing, otherwise evrybody would n00k the crap out of each other and this world would suk

I doubt that to be honest - well, maybe Marxikhan shouldn't be trusted :p but he could be dealt with. One thing I worry about this that if this world war ever gets started and gets serious someone will just say 'Do that and I'll nuke you!' and everyone will withdraw, making it boring. That's basically similar to what happened in the T&T situation, but with different weapons.

I still think the Mongolia situation would make the conflict more worldwide. The Marxikhan is good for a nuke war on the side, as a Latin American front. Japan and co. I think are willing to do the invading of Mongolia I think, though they will need allies, which is why I suggest all the communist nations join them.

I've never liked the fact that nations in the world with nukes get to tell others they can't have them - though it's obv. if that war happened Marxikhan would lose it. The WEF would never use nukes unless attacked itself with one.

I'm not saying he can't have them, I'm just giving a little forewarning that any nuke strike on anything that I got will result in some "dire" circumstances for said users. And for a nation with a quality intelligence agency, the Republic will find out who was behind it. Truthful or not.

I doubt that to be honest - well, maybe Marxikhan shouldn't be trusted :p but he could be dealt with. One thing I worry about this that if this world war ever gets started and gets serious someone will just say 'Do that and I'll nuke you!' and everyone will withdraw, making it boring. That's basically similar to what happened in the T&T situation, but with different weapons.

Well, the two major nuke powers have basically said that the "Do that and nuke" situation won't come to pass. China seems like they will use nukes-and if so, God help the poor Chinese people. As for the rest of the world's nukes, that's up to you.

Didn't my invasion also lead to democracy?

Didn't my invasion also lead to democracy?

Democracy enforced by the WEF, yeah. You were gonna incorporate it.
That's fine, but just be aware that not all the world may like that.

Yes, it did. That doesn't change the fact that it was a nation that didn't do anything to you and couldn't defend itself.

Ok, i think its funny everyone is acting like this is an IC thread. I was occ talking about a possibility to start a world war, wich in occ im sure everyone wants. i was joking what i said about nukes and i have givin up trying to make some, i dont like the level of inequality that goes on though


also my invasion of T&T was to start a world war! thats not somthing i wanted to do! i did so i could create an interesting conflict

^That's pretty much how the world is. When NK wanted nukes and tested one, guess what happened. People got pissed, and NK backed down.

Candistan right - the world superpowers generally don't like to see nations they are worried about with nuclear weapons - it's just realistic. Anyways, I hope to see a war organized/started/whatever when I next come on..though I doubt it..

yeah im done with nukes, too many people hate me already anyway :p

how do i check if my country already has bio/chemical weapons

wiki it.

Ok so we settled that no one would ever use a nuke for an offensive purpose, and if it was used for an offensive purpose it was only because the other person used one (Mutually assured destruction basically).

it turns out i dont have any WMD's :( but w/e...


so is GEACPS going to invade mongolia, and are the commys going to go to their aid?

I think that's what everyone was hoping for. Also, what happened to the African nations? They could be important, too.

You don't have any bio weapons Marx. The only countries in the Americas that have WMD's at all are the United States and Canada. Well technecally Canada no longer uses WMDs, but they have huge surplus of Chemical Weapons from World War II to the 60s' buried somewhere in some classified area... who would have thought.

I think that's what everyone was hoping for. Also, what happened to the African nations? They could be important, too.

not sure, ive been wondering that too, an independant africa in a world war will be cool. Maybe there is a commy nation hiding in their!

Well, I know for a fact two African nations signed up, but they aren't active as of yet...

dose any one think we should get an OCC thread planning for World conflict should be set up?

I think chem and bio weapons will end up being treated like nukes.

A separate thread may be necessary later, but not now.

dose any one think we should get an OCC thread planning for World conflict should be set up?

not really, someone should just do some crazy shit and the rest will take care of itself

random: ne1 else take the ACT 2day?

This earth is getting boring real fast. I will invade someone, but only if other nations promise to support me.

agreed

...Wow, y'all post way too quickly. I leave my computer for three hours, and end up having to read nearly three pages of posts. :p

'Tis cool, though, as long as we're getting some planning done. If this war's going to start soon, then perhaps I should, ah, do some research on the Mongolian military before too long? *cough* I guess i'll get to that now; I just saw 300 and i'm in a very warlike mood. Awesome film, by the way. \m/

Also, i'd like to venture that this Earth may be a wee bit boring at the moment, but it's only because nothing is really happening IC. I'd just like to point out that wars aren't the only thing to do, you know (though they're evidently the most fun :D ). There's always conferences, national events, etc, etc (though I can't think of anything good at the moment, myself). I'm just saying that, based on what i've read from other Earths, wars don't have to be the one single thing we do around here. Just pointing that out. In the meantime, we've got a war to plan. ;)

300 was a kick ass movie

This earth is getting boring real fast. I will invade someone, but only if other nations promise to support me.

Don't be a pussy, just invade someone. You'd be surprised how many great RPs happen because you don't know how the other people are going to act.

Also nobody has to tell you how they are going to act when you do this or that. They can hold all their cards and not show them to anyone, save those they trust.

300 was a kick ass movie

o yeah, most def

Don't be a pussy, just invade someone. You'd be surprised how many great RPs happen because you don't know how the other people are going to act.

Also nobody has to tell you how they are going to act when you do this or that. They can hold all their cards and not show them to anyone, save those they trust.

then y dont u attk someone, bitch

then y dont u attk someone, bitch

I would recommend that you use proper grammar and spelling before making another comment like that. Second of all, I'm not in this Earth. I just come here to lend my knowledge every now and then.

And if you meant in NS, I haven't been threatened by someone or been wronged, so Invading someone for the sake of invading someone, outside of an earth anyway, is not my style.

I would recommend that you use proper grammar and spelling before making another comment like that. Second of all, I'm not in this Earth. I just come here to lend my knowledge every now and then.


Alright, Mr. Professor, does this post suit you better? Since this is an ooc forum, i thought that im language would be acceptable. Now, since you are not in this world, would you kindly leave and let the members use this forum as they please?

Well, first off, I like Granate poking in now and then. He has good insight. Second, the only reason this is boring for YOU is because YOU don't make it fun for YOURSELF. We're not all here to make it fun for you. Sometimes you have to do it yourself, which in turn adds up to more fun for other people.

*The YOU is refering to everyone who thinks this is boring.

Well i WAS going to attack someone, but then they never logged on and that would have been no fun. The only neighbors that I have besides him i currently have good relations with(that would be the UR, Czechalrussian Federation, and WEF). Yugoslavia and KoE don't count as they are never online

Well i WAS going to attack someone, but then they never logged on and that would have been no fun. The only neighbors that I have besides him i currently have good relations with(that would be the UR, Czechalrussian Federation, and WEF). Yugoslavia and KoE don't count as they are never online

Ah, but who says that you can't turn the tables on an ally? Sure, it may seem kind of chaotic and/or uncalled for, but some other RL nations haven't let that stop 'em. :p In all seriousness, though, I agree that your options are limited. I'd obviously like a World War to start this way rather than through a Mongolian invasion, but whatever. :D

EDIT: Also, a few technical questions I have: How are we measuring time in this RP? I recall reading somewhere that it's now 2008, but I don't quite know much more than that. Also, would someone be willing to help me sort out the military? It's not much. I just need to know what's best for me to have equipment-wise; my Mongolia's army probably wouldn't be using the Russian guns and aircraft that RL Mongolia uses, as it had a history of hostility against the old Soviet Russia of RL (which is now obviously no more, but i'm assuming was at one point). And my Air Force sucks some serious arse; it's mostly made up of transport planes and old PoS Russian fighters. Ahem. Anyway...

Ah, but who says that you can't turn the tables on an ally? Sure, it may seem kind of chaotic and/or uncalled for, but some other RL nations haven't let that stop 'em. :p In all seriousness, though, I agree that your options are limited. I'd obviously like a World War to start this way rather than through a Mongolian invasion, but whatever. :D

EDIT: Also, a few technical questions I have: How are we measuring time in this RP? I recall reading somewhere that it's now 2008, but I don't quite know much more than that. Also, would someone be willing to help me sort out the military? It's not much. I just need to know what's best for me to have equipment-wise; my Mongolia's army probably wouldn't be using the Russian guns and aircraft that RL Mongolia uses, as it had a history of hostility against the old Soviet Russia of RL (which is now obviously no more, but i'm assuming was at one point). And my Air Force sucks some serious arse; it's mostly made up of transport planes and old PoS Russian fighters. Ahem. Anyway...

Ok, so time is 1 ESS year = 1 RL month.

One thing you could do (this would be tight) is ally with someone, like Japan, and invade china. Or ally with china and invade japan. or russia. there are plenty off cool things that you could do as the aggressor that many others could not.

Ok, so time is 1 ESS year = 1 RL month.

One thing you could do (this would be tight) is ally with someone, like Japan, and invade china. Or ally with china and invade japan. or russia. there are plenty off cool things that you could do as the aggressor that many others could not.
I can go with that time scale; 1 year=12 days is simpler, but you REALLY need to keep active for that to work.:rolleyes: I frankly doubt even I'd keep up with that, and I'm always checking this thread at least as my modship requires...
EDIT: I'm up for something involving Japan, although again I'll still be trying to stay removed so as not to get dogpiled before Marxikhan and H-Town can get some good stuff going for me in their end of the world if I do join the war.

Well, The Japan thing is interesting, but I don't see how they can get to Mongolia if it is landlocked. Only two ways in, Me, and China/ I sure as hell wouldn't let them in, so it's up to the Chinese.

Alright, I'll settle it.

If no one else wants to invade or stick their foot in, I'll invade Mexico and proceed on to Marx.

I have plenty of motivation for it, and I can certainly justify some reasons with some quick-fix government moves.

Is this a crusade versus communism? If so, I am legally binded by our agreement to join you...

Is this a crusade versus communism? If so, I am legally binded by our agreement to join you...

Not neccessarily, but my government can do all it needs to to say it is. 'Specially if I "find" some "evidence" of Marxikhan doing "bad stuff".

How would me or the rest of the world get involved in this?

Oh, Wagdog or the WEF can condemn me and try to come to Mexico's aid through a cross-Oceanic assault. Then Animarnia or someone can invade Wagdog or the GGA or you invade the WEF. Then the shit hits the fan.

Aight. Let's get this started.

I just thought of a really good way to take a city. It involves some tactics most people might not approve of, but it would most likely work. I'll save it for wartime to reveal... :)

Well, if this get's the war started - I'd be happy to agree with this.

Not sure about condemning the NAR though, as for a number of reasons it doesn't make sense, but if the GGA does and Animarnia starts to invade them and I feel threatened enough, I would happily declare war on the invading forces of Europe - as to get to me you have to get through a sizeable amount of the GGA.

I'm assuming countries like Japan, Central America (obviously!) and China would be against the US in this war.

Well, if this get's the war started - I'd be happy to agree with this.

Not sure about condemning the NAR though, as for a number of reasons it doesn't make sense, but if the GGA does and Animarnia starts to invade them and I feel threatened enough, I would happily declare war on the invading forces of Europe - as to get to me you have to get through a sizeable amount of the GGA.

I'm assuming countries like Japan, Central America (obviously!) and China would be against the US in this war.

Weeee cant wait! this should be kool, and i'll fight against America too, so im assuming that this will be like world war one? the start of it that is(ie. attacks someone there allies just jump in?)

so......you ganna start this Amazon...?



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just bumping so that this page dosn't end up on page 2.....


so a rough draft of this war will be:


NAR invades Central America(and me when he's done) becuse we have terrorist governments, WEF joins the fight against the NAR

Japan and commy's support Latin America, they invade Russia/KoA invades Wagdog,


In Europe GGA or UR invades WEF.....

then we got a world war

I don't have a total layout, but here's my final draft up for revision/review.

I'm going to have a really lengthy first post. Basically, my gov't is going to make up a bunch of really convincing stories about the CAE and Marxikhan going hand-in-hand to try and upset the world through some means or others.

Because of this, OMI is going to blow up some civilian thing in Havana. They'll automatically point fingers right here at Marx and the CAE because Marx has campaigned for a Latin American conference thing and promoted Latin A. unity-they'll claim Marx is trying to get Havana (RL Cuba) to secede. This'll fire up NAR sentiments (particularly in Miami and Havana) to gun for war after the first attack on NAR soil since WW2 (9/11 never happened here). It'll be just like US sentiment after 9/11-everyone will be gunning for taking down the "evil" regimes (Afghans in RL, Marx and CAE here-they'll even be able to find some links through the name "Central American Empire").

Because of this, the world starts to heat up. Somebody (assuming GEACPS, since them and me have no relations yet) will go out and condemn me, and then all the sudden somebody (UR, GGA, someone) will take the advantage and either try to invade someone else while the world focuses on the Western crisis or they land in the Western Hemisphere and try to stymie my own advance.

Then the world goes beserk. The power and land-hungry nations start to take the initiative and use the time to start their own wars, the whole world gets engaged (I plan on the NAR to be at least involved in Asia, as well, if nowhere else-though probaly also Europe a bit on).

As for GEACPS and China getting involved-if they don't want to risk going all the way across the Pacific to take my forces head-on, they can call foul and say this is an American-Russian plan to try and take the world by storm. That could then "justify" an assault against Russia. Or, likewise, they could claim it's Animarnia's recent ties with the NAR coming to a head and punch into India. The GGA has been pretty good with me, but once the Asian theater starts, they can claim all the local riots in Portugal as "justified rebellions against socialist rule" and go in to "liberate" the WEF, launching the European theater.

Sorry for the double post:

I TG'ed Eralineta, Cookesland, Erstereich, Silvado, Dirik, Zam, Senders, and Germantly about the war-hopefully they'll show up.

I think Futuris is out of ESS, and I'm pretty sure Vetaka is.

To make things easier for you, I could just say I support Marx as I said I would supprt any Latin country if there are no reasonable grounds for an assault (in Marx's T&T post).

Although I wouldn't know how you would get my name in the mix as I am a constitutional monarchy.

This could be quite a showdown. I would think that the UR would support the NAR in maybe utilizing the Pacific Fleet for some work in the Americas. Hopefully I can use my new tactic to take over cities in this.

AWSOME! love the idea Amazon, it'll be really koo once the others join in tho WEF is a right-sided nation they will be on our side of the war....i

Woah! I’m not siding with the communists… what I thought was going to happen was this:

America invades Mexico and Marx, most of the major commie countries condemn it. Then maybe the UR or India could launch an attack on Europe, either because the GGA condemns it (there government is fascist I think so more likely to be against the Americans - don't know why) or because they see it as an opportunity for war. China etc. may then help Europe as well in defending from this attack. China can also attack Russia etc.

Obviously I will not change Amazon’s plans, as he’s creating the thing thankfully – but I don’t think it’s wise for me to be at war with all my neighbours. At least that way if war breaks out I can have a close ally in the GGA and will not damage relations with the US (an unwise thing for the WEF to do) so quickly as I will not actually declare war on them.

Woah! I’m not siding with the communists… what I thought was going to happen was this:

America invades Mexico and Marx, most of the major commie countries condemn it. Then maybe the UR or India could launch an attack on Europe, either because the GGA condemns it (there government is fascist I think so more likely to be against the Americans - don't know why) or because they see it as an opportunity for war. China etc. may then help Europe as well in defending from this attack.

Obviously I will not change Amazon’s plans, as he’s creating the thing thankfully – but I don’t think it’s wise for me to be at war with all my neighbours. At least that way if war breaks out I can have a close ally in the GGA and will not damage relations with the US (an unwise thing for the WEF to do) so quickly as I will not actually declare war on them.

Well first off we need a world power like you on our side... second you'd be siding with us because of your close ties with Central America and you dont belive that Marxikhan would be low enuff to use terror attacks. UR is going to be focused in Asia so you really are just fighting against GGA and hopfuly sending support to Latin America

Sorry for the double post:

I TG'ed Eralineta, Cookesland, Erstereich, Silvado, Dirik, Zam, Senders, and Germantly about the war-hopefully they'll show up.

I think Futuris is out of ESS, and I'm pretty sure Vetaka is.
Well, should I TG Vetaka about that conference I was planning for my capital? I'm going to be neutral in this until things get too hot in the Pacific and I have to declare for somebody, so I have the time...

Well, as far as Europe goes, the GGA seems the most likely choice to be the aggressor (unless some of the guys I TG'ed comes back, sorry 'bout that Senders). The WEF and Russia could close in on the GGA, but then China or the GEACPS hit Russia from the backside and Marx hit the WEF from the Atlantic.

That could work really well with getting a second Russian front working-technically, here we could get two fronts going for every single nation (depending on what Brazil does).

Candistan: The link between the NAR and the UR will probaly be vital in keeping the Beiring Strait open for quick movements back and forth-we could even set up some sort of ferry system going up there if NAR ground forces need to move quick but can't risk a cross-Oceanic transit.

The UR probably won't be caring about europe unless someone over there decided to pick a fight with me. In that case, then the shit hits the fan. I foresee some major conflict in south asia, though.

Awsome ideas again! Well then GGA will support us then hopfully, Im just unsure that Brasil, Marxikhan and Central America can hold off NAR

Well, as far as Europe goes, the GGA seems the most likely choice to be the aggressor (unless some of the guys I TG'ed comes back, sorry 'bout that Senders). The WEF and Russia could close in on the GGA, but then China or the GEACPS hit Russia from the backside and Marx hit the WEF from the Atlantic.

That could work really well with getting a second Russian front working-technically, here we could get two fronts going for every single nation (depending on what Brazil does).

Candistan: The link between the NAR and the UR will probaly be vital in keeping the Beiring Strait open for quick movements back and forth-we could even set up some sort of ferry system going up there if NAR ground forces need to move quick but can't risk a cross-Oceanic transit.

The ferry system sounds like a very interesting plan. The problem about Marx getting the WEF is that I doubt any of the craft in his navy are able to even get over there, let alone put on an attack that would last more than ten minutes.

Well, as far as Europe goes, the GGA seems the most likely choice to be the aggressor (unless some of the guys I TG'ed comes back, sorry 'bout that Senders). The WEF and Russia could close in on the GGA, but then China or the GEACPS hit Russia from the backside and Marx hit the WEF from the Atlantic.

That could work really well with getting a second Russian front working-technically, here we could get two fronts going for every single nation (depending on what Brazil does).

Candistan: The link between the NAR and the UR will probaly be vital in keeping the Beiring Strait open for quick movements back and forth-we could even set up some sort of ferry system going up there if NAR ground forces need to move quick but can't risk a cross-Oceanic transit.

That would be hard for my fairly small Navy to launch an Attack on the WEF but ok...:) It would be be easier for me to send my navy to the Pacific and attack Sri Lanka(sorry spelling)

Awsome ideas again! Well then GGA will support us then hopfully, Im just unsure that Brasil, Marxikhan and Central America can hold off NAR
So I take it those determined to stay neutral in this are to be summarily ignored eh?:rolleyes: Well, I can say that things could get very interesting for either Pearl Harbor or the Panama Canal if I decided the NAR was the bigger threat than Russia's Pacific Fleet. Again, my country has its advantages even if our weaknesses are as big. Still, I'll decide whom I support in this when I'm good and ready; and maybe once some others have already exhausted themselves too.:p

The only problem I had with the GGA thing was the fact that we are quite close diplomatically and he's my European Neighbour - and military wise much stronger than me. That's why I need an ally, though if your suggesting Russia help against him - which would hopefully also mean I don't have to defend him off later - I'd be willing to comprimise, even if I prefer the first option.

honako your in a much better position that other countrys right now don't worry

That would be hard for my fairly small Navy to launch an Attack on the WEF but ok...:) It would be be easier for me to send my navy to the Pacific and attack Sri Lanka(sorry spelling)

Problem with that though Marx is that if you attack my Navy you'd be throwing away any chance of support from me, plus it's likely you'll lose - even though I don't know anything about naval warfare. Though I'd let you.

If all this happens the WEF would probably quietly support China until it attacks Russia (who I assume will be attacking the GGA) as we will be wanted as many allies we can get.

so the sides are kinda


1.
NAR
UR
KoA
Mongolia?

2.
Marxikhan
Central America
Brasil
Wagdog?
GEACPS?
CHINA?
GGA


so were dose WEF stand?

So I take it those determined to stay neutral in this are to be summarily ignored eh?:rolleyes: Well, I can say that things could get very interesting for either Pearl Harbor or the Panama Canal if I decided the NAR was the bigger threat than Russia's Pacific Fleet. Again, my country has its advantages even if our weaknesses are as big. Still, I'll decide whom I support in this when I'm good and ready; and maybe once some others have already exhausted themselves too.:p

You may have a little bit of trouble with Pearl Harbor...based on its defense screen. I suppose if you committed your entire force...but then, those ships based in Bremerton, Vancouver, and San Diego could have a run at your homeland.
The Panama Canal, on the other hand, is already out of my control. It's held by the CAE. I'll be relying on the (quite large) Pacific Fleet.
Of course, I may drive against you first :P depending on how you react to the Marx and CAE invasion.

About the GGA: If the GGA supports the WEF and they both attack Russia, that could be interesting-though seeing how Kamp was looking for action, I would see him being interested in attacking both the WEF and Russia. Russia would already be vulnerable due to the breakout of Asian war.

Marx: You could attack Sri Lanka, as that'd really get Animarnia into it. I just figured WEF on the spot because you could hit their backside if the GGA attacked them. Also, if you have all three American nations against me, you'll hold off the NAR for some time. We'll be in more than one theater.

I'd be open to both options - there are two scenarios I'd be interested in:

1) Basically Russia attacking Europe and me and the GGA turning against him. If this is the case Russia would have to basically invade the whole GGA before getting to me which means I'm safer - so I prefer this :p

2) The GGA attacks on both fronts - and gets it back on both fronts. It's a risk for the GGA but would also be fun, and I would call in support from Russia and maybe even asian nations who oppose the GGA.

I know I'm in an ok position Marx - we just need someone as an ally. And as for where WEF stands - it all depends on what the GGA decides to do. If the GGA is attacked by Russia and we unite to defend we'll be on your side (though I will not attack America's - a) I'm too much of a wimp and b) I want to mantain some kind of good relations with them). Or if the GGA attacks us we are with Russia.

Well, in order to get you pretty involved, Honako, it may be better for the GGA's 2-front war. That would also draw Russia into a second front, one that they logically wouldn't start if China and the GEACPS and Wagdog are already tying down the East.

That could also draw my forces into Europe to possibly strike at the GGA.

I don't see the UR hitting the GGA since we have a NAP. They could of course do what they have done in the past and catch us offguard.

Well, in order to get you pretty involved, Honako, it may be better for the GGA's 2-front war. That would also draw Russia into a second front, one that they logically wouldn't start if China and the GEACPS and Wagdog are already tying down the East.

That could also draw my forces into Europe to possibly strike at the GGA.

Well, I'll decide my stance depending on what happens in Europe. Now I think we should concentrate on getting it started and see how the whole situation unfolds.

You may have a little bit of trouble with Pearl Harbor...based on its defense screen. I suppose if you committed your entire force...but then, those ships based in Bremerton, Vancouver, and San Diego could have a run at your homeland.
The Panama Canal, on the other hand, is already out of my control. It's held by the CAE. I'll be relying on the (quite large) Pacific Fleet.
Of course, I may drive against you first :P depending on how you react to the Marx and CAE invasion.

About the GGA: If the GGA supports the WEF and they both attack Russia, that could be interesting-though seeing how Kamp was looking for action, I would see him being interested in attacking both the WEF and Russia. Russia would already be vulnerable due to the breakout of Asian war.

Marx: You could attack Sri Lanka, as that'd really get Animarnia into it. I just figured WEF on the spot because you could hit their backside if the GGA attacked them. Also, if you have all three American nations against me, you'll hold off the NAR for some time. We'll be in more than one theater.
Maybe, but then again as I said I'm going to bide my time and strike effectively should I ever have to; and give anybody who tries to preempt me diplomatic/military HELL for it.:p Remember that in a Pearl Harbor II strike my six blackjacks can send 72 Kh-555s your way per run if that's all they carry, and can do so from 2500-3000km out. Unless you preemptively surge your fleet, I could be long gone by the time you respond to my missiles hitting. And any Seventh Fleet sortie would simply be as vulnerable in turn...
Really, the first thing I can think of that would drag me in is a strike on Czechalrus by the UR (in which case the Russian Pacific fleet becomes my Target No.1) or anybody else (in which case my options are variable), since I'm fairly close to him ICly and operate mostly Czechalrussian stuff; thus needing to protect my supply lines and diplomatic reputation. I'm not really interested in opposing Animarnia for obvious reasons pertaining to the Kazakhstan peacekeeping force, so anybody attacking them categorically isn't getting help from me until they get sense into their heads on that issue and lay off.:rolleyes:
Again, I fail to see why everybody here's so quick to put EVERYONE on one side or the other; neutrals are who you turn to for arranging things when it's time to talk, as I bet things would be within months after everybody's pounding on each other modern-style and I've been sitting pretty long enough. I'd gladly host the peace conference, people. Unless of course, you're all in a Nicholas Cage like "I've got a better idea: let's just nuke each other," kind of mood and feel compelled somehow to drag six strategically-placed Tu-160 Blackjacks and more in against you all...:headbang:

Awsome, but i start school again tommarrow so I'll have alot less time on the fourm. I'll be active enuff that you'll see me tho

Maybe, but then again as I said I'm going to bide my time and strike effectively should I ever have to; and give anybody who tries to preempt me diplomatic/military HELL for it.:p Remember that in a Pearl Harbor II strike my six blackjacks can send 72 Kh-555s your way per run if that's all they carry, and can do so from 2500-3000km out. Unless you preemptively surge your fleet, I could be long gone by the time you respond to my missiles hitting. And any Seventh Fleet sortie would simply be as vulnerable in turn...
Really, the first thing I can think of that would drag me in is a strike on Czechalrus by the UR (in which case the Russian Pacific fleet becomes my Target No.1) or anybody else (in which case my options are variable), since I'm fairly close to him ICly and operate mostly Czechalrussian stuff; thus needing to protect my supply lines and diplomatic reputation. I'm not really interested in opposing Animarnia for obvious reasons pertaining to the Kazakhstan peacekeeping force, so anybody attacking them categorically isn't getting help from me until they get sense into their heads on that issue and lay off.:rolleyes:
Again, I fail to see why everybody here's so quick to put EVERYONE on one side or the other; neutrals are who you turn to for arranging things when it's time to talk, as I bet things would be within months after everybody's pounding on each other modern-style and I've been sitting pretty long enough. I'd gladly host the peace conference, people. Unless of course, you're all in a Nicholas Cage like "I've got a better idea: let's just nuke each other," kind of mood and feel compelled somehow to drag six strategically-placed Tu-160 Blackjacks and more in against you all...:headbang:

Having a neutral might actually be a good thing...and actually, now that I think of it, you also then could take control of an NPC nation (as the Mod here) that gets caught up, without the usual OOC bitching of people on some Earths (cough SYAE).

As for Nukes, I intend to avoid them-I hope everyone, for that matter, does.

I’m interested to guess what the outcome of all this will be. I predict that most of Central and Northern Southern American will be in NAR control, but with huge discontent, that Europe will probably end up being one united power under whoever wins (for about a day at least :p ) – and that Asia will be in complete disarray, and with nations like Russia and China in there, possibly baring the damage of Nuclear Warfare. There my wild guesses, before it’s even started.

I’m interested to guess what the outcome of all this will be. I predict that most of Central and Northern Southern American will be in NAR control, but with huge discontent, that Europe will probably end up being one united power under whoever wins (for about a day at least :p ) – and that Asia will be in complete disarray, and with nations like Russia and China in there, possibly baring the damage of Nuclear Warfare. There my wild guesses, before it’s even started.

You under estimate Latin America, we have plenty of tricks up our sleave. And even if we do end up under NAR control, we will do what we do best...FIGHT A CIVIL WAR

Having a neutral might actually be a good thing...and actually, now that I think of it, you also then could take control of an NPC nation (as the Mod here) that gets caught up, without the usual OOC bitching of people on some Earths (cough SYAE).

As for Nukes, I intend to avoid them-I hope everyone, for that matter, does.
I do too;), but I was just tossing that out as an extreme take upon the mood some seemed to be getting into here. I don't have them, and don't particularly want them either as far as my ESS incarnation goes (my NS version's a totally different matter, however...:p). Also AB, you could take control of other NPCs (not being invaded by you anyway) should I be overwhelmed for whatever reason. We might even need H-Town Tejas too (since he's a mod, albeit Map Mod) should this get big enough...:eek:

One question?


what happend to Africa/middle east? \


these could be big parts of the war...middle east is very important considering that it is in the middle of Europe Conflict and Asain Conflict

One question?


what happend to Africa/middle east? \


these could be big parts of the war...middle east is very important considering that it is in the middle of Europe Conflict and Asain Conflict

I contacted several of the players in there-hopefully they'll show up.

Having a neutral might actually be a good thing...and actually, now that I think of it, you also then could take control of an NPC nation (as the Mod here) that gets caught up, without the usual OOC bitching of people on some Earths (cough SYAE).

As for Nukes, I intend to avoid them-I hope everyone, for that matter, does.

The GEACPS may condemn your actions, but I don't intend to jump into the war right off the bat.

And I don't intend to use any leftover nukes North Korea may have possesed, either.

What? now GEACAPS wants to be neutral, this is looking more and more like a regional war not an international one.....in world war one and two how many major countrys jumped in the war later?

I don't think he said he wouldn't be involved, he just might leave it a while. A bit like America did the RL world wars.

Well anyway, hopefully this will be up as soon as possible - as it's still early enough in the UK for me to be involved and not miss all the action.

You know, deciding the outcome of a war before it's even started will make it a LOT less fun if you would have just in SIC formed alliances and attacked nations. That way, you're not fighting a pre-planned war, because trust me, if you're claiming that after the war so-so will conquer so-so, and this land will belong to so-so, your "war" doesn't even need to be fought, because you'll be so bored RPing as you already know what's going to happen. I thought that wars were fought in ICly not OOCly...

Thus, to save you from your boredom, I will set up my factbook shortly. I have watched you talk about several issues for some time - mainly, boredom. If you're bored, talking about stuff on OOC won't help. Do something in IC that's unexpected, that's provoking. So what if you lose? It's better to lose in the RP then to lose outside of the RP by being so bored and planning everything out OOCly that you leave this Earth. When originally joining, I had a set purpose in mind. One, central objective. But I drifted away into the lands of NSG....and am still there, mind you. I have decided, however, to accomplish that objective for the time being.

Who's trying to invade China? >.>;

Ah, sounds like y'all have cooked up a good plan. As for where Mongolia's gonna stand, it's pretty simple - at the start, it depends on whether the Asian aggressor attacks us or bypasses us. If, say, China goes straight into Russia without going through Mongolia first, we won't like it, but we'll probably just twiddle our thumbs at first. Otherwise, it's on. ;)

Later, it depends on the however the two sides turn out. The only "friendly" nation that I can think of is the WEF, and to a lesser extent Russia. If they end up on opposite sides, I really don't know at this point where i'll stand. This, of course, could change at any time. While (and if) i'm neutral, I could RP an NPC if needed (though I think the mods have that covered).

Who's trying to invade China? >.>;
'Dunno, but looks like Russia at present so you'd best put up your dukes. They may or may not be storming Mongolia, and I truly have no clue what Japan's going to do although I think they want to play wait-and-see for a bit.

What? now GEACAPS wants to be neutral, this is looking more and more like a regional war not an international one.....in world war one and two how many major countrys jumped in the war later?

I'm not going to be neutral, just like Honako said, I'll be entering a bit later. Probably won't take me as long as it did America, though.

Well, looks like stuff is calming down, so I'm gonna go type up the first post.

About The GEACPS with nukes...they have some. The problem is they have at most only two or three and they aren't of a very high yield, only about 10-20kt. The delivery system is another problem, I'm not sure if the Taepodong-2's are very reliable...

You know, deciding the outcome of a war before it's even started will make it a LOT less fun if you would have just in SIC formed alliances and attacked nations. That way, you're not fighting a pre-planned war, because trust me, if you're claiming that after the war so-so will conquer so-so, and this land will belong to so-so, your "war" doesn't even need to be fought, because you'll be so bored RPing as you already know what's going to happen. I thought that wars were fought in ICly not OOCly...

Thus, to save you from your boredom, I will set up my factbook shortly. I have watched you talk about several issues for some time - mainly, boredom. If you're bored, talking about stuff on OOC won't help. Do something in IC that's unexpected, that's provoking. So what if you lose? It's better to lose in the RP then to lose outside of the RP by being so bored and planning everything out OOCly that you leave this Earth. When originally joining, I had a set purpose in mind. One, central objective. But I drifted away into the lands of NSG....and am still there, mind you. I have decided, however, to accomplish that objective for the time being.

There is no set plan on how it will end - just how it will begin on all the fronts. And obviously if someone does something drastic then it could all change, but I understand what you mean.

so what is the thread for this war going to be called???

It's called "Fusing the Spark (ESS)" - I'm currently about half way through.

My own intel org (OMI) is initiating a terrorist act in Havana-and implications will lead the NAR gov to CAE and Marx.

How I've written it, this won't even be imperialism. This is a war totally started not by the NAR, but by OMI-they are twisting the key, they are laying the groundworks for this.

It's interesting so far, at least.

It's Up, but Marxikhan and CAE: I left the next move for you guys. It's up to you to deny that the guys who did it were of your nations, like Frist accuses.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524156

WTF?? I have great relations with the NAR and WEF and UR, so why am i the one supposed to fight them? I was gone and only read a few posts so if sum1 could breif me, it would help.

WTF?? I have great relations with the NAR and WEF and UR, so why am i the one supposed to fight them? I was gone and only read a few posts so if sum1 could breif me, it would help.


All we're sure of at this point is that the NAR is going after the CAE and/or Marxikhan. It's supposed to just develop from there - whoever feels like taking advantage of the situation invades somebody else (for example, a Communist nation attacks an ally of the NAR in Europe/Asia, or vice versa). And it explodes from there. That's the plan as I understand it, anyway.

Ok, well I have the same political idealogy as the UR, and wont attk them.

And the WEF is a good ally of mine. Well, not quite ally, but friend nothenless. So I wouldn't attk them either.

Ok, well I have the same political idealogy as the UR, and wont attk them.

And the WEF is a good ally of mine. Well, not quite ally, but friend nothenless. So I wouldn't attk them either.

I sent you a TG discussing the possible World War and also informing you a bit about some of the ideas others had about how Europe could come into the war. None of it's set, but there is a sort of vague plan.

Replied to that TG

Replied to that TG

And I replied back.

And to AB, I read the thread, it's interesting - though I'll wait till CA or at least Marx replied before giving my official stance.

I liked it a lot...good plot. Hopefully it will get moving fast so I can do something interesting. 'Till then, I'll wait.

CAndistan I TG'd u. tell me what u think.

Replied.

Replied. Honoka, ur turn to check your TGs

I have, and replied requesting more details.

Thus, I have sent yet another TG to you Candistan.

Replied...again.

Replied...again.

honako - ur turn.

candistan - sounds good to me

And I replied back.

And to AB, I read the thread, it's interesting - though I'll wait till CA or at least Marx replied before giving my official stance.

Ya, i kinda need Marx and CAE to reply (and negatively) to kick this off and get it going.

Also, re-reading my own post...I may have an idea for something out-of-the-box once the war's over.

honako - ur turn.

candistan - sounds good to me

I replied to that a while ago, maybe candistan could fill me in more...

I probs won't be on when this all kicks off, so don't go too fast for the WEF.. :p

same here. I probably won't be on until 5 US central time, so don't end it before I even see it... lol

so it looks like we'll all join, the GGA, WEF, and UR. who's gonna rp this? i have to leave in bout 10 minutes, so i can't.

Linky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524177)

I've still got to put in a few things, especially things to do with military. It's not the most detailed factbook yes, but I wasn't going for detail.

Linky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524177)

I've still got to put in a few things, especially things to do with military. It's not the most detailed factbook yes, but I wasn't going for detail.
Added.:D Also, will post in there later for an embassy but have to head for dinner soon...

I don;'t want to sound like an asshole, but how would Futuris get T-90 tanks. Only two nations have them, Russia and India. I can live with the Merkava's, even though they weren't even developed in the year he took Israel, ket alone even in the design stage, but if he is the kind of nation he said he is (A Religious Fascist Empire), then I doubt The Soviet Union or the UR (Both dislike religious zealotry) would sell them tanks of that caliber. The same goes for the ATGM Kornet and RPG 29's.

I don;'t want to sound like an asshole, but how would Futuris get T-90 tanks. Only two nations have them, Russia and India. I can live with the Merkava's, even though they weren't even developed in the year he took Israel, ket alone even in the design stage, but if he is the kind of nation he said he is (A Religious Fascist Empire), then I doubt The Soviet Union or the UR (Both dislike religious zealotry) would sell them tanks of that caliber. The same goes for the ATGM Kornet and RPG 29's.

Read the first page.

I think he swapped out the Israeli native tanks for the T-90's (like how Wagdog switched out the B-52Hs for the Tu-22Ms [I don't know why you'd do that, but to each his own]).

Read the first page.

Okay, so that covers the Anti-tank stuff, but that does'nt cover the T-90's. It said you can't upgrade to a more advanced thing, only one of equal abilities. T-72's aren't of a T-90's abilities. Neither are any of those other ones to the best of my knowledge.

I think he swapped out the Israeli native tanks for the T-90's (like how Wagdog switched out the B-52Hs for the Tu-22Ms [I don't know why you'd do that, but to each his own]).

Well I hope he has fun paying for his 8 million man army. With the amount of cash each of those nations is making a year besides Israel, the budget of an army of that size might give the soldiers a stick per man and maybe a rock that each squad can share.

Well I hope he has fun paying for his 8 million man army. With the amount of cash each of those nations is making a year besides Israel, the budget of an army of that size might give the soldiers a stick per man and maybe a rock that each squad can share.

I love that part of Halo :p

But that's true, my military is not even half the size of that one and I've got a hundred million more people.

Yes, but you have The US and Canada, both with very high GDPs. His nation is filled with a ton of African dirt poor nations and semi-rich Israel. I really don't think his GDP could support the equipment he is using.

i posted btw :) not sure what the hell you Europe nations planned i just hope it dosnt suck for me

Oh, boy you dropped a bomb in your last post. America is going to be super pissed. I might drop a post soon, and I bet you can guess what is going down... :)

I'll get a post up tomorrow on my response (nice post, btw-that makes things easy to rile up on my behalf).

Oh shit......:eek: this should be fun....i hope.....lets not get into combat until everyone reacts to this situation so I'm not completly:upyours: be4 others join in

ummm can i get into this WWIII plan? srry i've been out of the loop lately :(

What nation are you again?

africa



and what do you have planned Candistan?

He could mess with Futuris I guess. And I was thinking of moving a Naval Task Force towards the coast of Marxikhan to monitor the situation and maybe pick a fight or two.

I don;'t want to sound like an asshole, but how would Futuris get T-90 tanks. Only two nations have them, Russia and India. I can live with the Merkava's, even though they weren't even developed in the year he took Israel, ket alone even in the design stage, but if he is the kind of nation he said he is (A Religious Fascist Empire), then I doubt The Soviet Union or the UR (Both dislike religious zealotry) would sell them tanks of that caliber. The same goes for the ATGM Kornet and RPG 29's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_National_Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_National_Army)

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/03/algerian-arms-deal-brings-russia-75-billion-gas-market-leverage/index.php

Central African Empire (CAE)

theres not already a thread for this right?

oh thats all?


*begins to take notes*

Is anyone ganna post in the thread so far its only been me and amazon

:p Central African Empire (CAE)

theres not already a thread for this right?

if u mean world war three yeah there is its Fusing the Spark(ESS ONLY)...i think...im expecting your support :rolleyes: :p

Central African Empire (CAE)

theres not already a thread for this right?

oh that no, but its on the first page of this thread...it list all the nations and such

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_National_Army

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/03/algerian-arms-deal-brings-russia-75-billion-gas-market-leverage/index.php

Hmm...I see. Sorry for the trouble then.

Hmm...I see. Sorry for the trouble then.

Canistan Post you Post be4 the thread falls into the pit of doom called....page two

Kool, no prob, just post your reaction to the FLASE claim and then we should be kool for the night

Sorry I didn't post, been working. Plus I just noticed the war thread. That and I just finished my nations history (I said I would get it done by Sunday...). I'll get a post up beofer midnight. Would get it up earlier but for some reason the forums don't work on my computer around 11:00 - 11:25 (does this happen to other people?)

Man I have a lot of excuses...

Well I hope he has fun paying for his 8 million man army. With the amount of cash each of those nations is making a year besides Israel, the budget of an army of that size might give the soldiers a stick per man and maybe a rock that each squad can share.

I have said before that I still have things to add and change in my factbook, especially in the military section. It would help for you to know how I choose my soldiers, which I will include later. The fanaticism can only go so far - if I said that "they don't need to be payed because they die for their country" it would be borderline godmodding, and I won't do it.

About "African dirt nations"....I have also posted an alternate history detailing how the EF was in fact, not just a bunch of independent, nations - indeed, a lot of the bad things going on in Africa right now are as a result of colonization efforts years back by European powers. So, yes, my soldiers aren't the best paid soldiers in the world, and they're not the best equipped and well trained ones either (at least not my special forces) but I have a reasonable active:reserve ratio that other nations do not have in this Earth, and that accounts for something.

And if you'd look at my economy, you'd see that I have 200 billion dollars to spend on military. And 11 million people to pay. That gives an approximate 17,000 something per soldier, which is way above the GDP per capita. So, it is, in fact, not unreasonable, but perfectly plausible. And reserve soldiers generally get paid less than active soldiers.

hey! how bout you support me in this upcoming war!

Hmm...I see. Sorry for the trouble then.

Np. I can see why you were concerned though - it just so happens that Algeria is one of four countries in the world operating the T-90. At first, I thought that it was a deal to be done in the future, but I guess not...

I still don't have a lot though - and I have Israeli tanks to back them up. That's one of the reasons why I chose Israel as a country - they have quite an efficient military, considering their geographical and political position.

it appears that the Central African Empire will be against the false bombings taking the side of the UR and NAR so this is your chance to support us!

it appears that the Central African Empire will be against the false bombings taking the side of the UR and NAR so this is your chance to support us!

Me support you?

Hmm...I don't think so. No offense, but for the time being, I'm going to be neutral. I need to do a few things before getting involved in any conflict.

Marx, If you want to, you can make a post about your Military Intelligence spotting the Naval force moving towards your waters.

I think he swapped out the Israeli native tanks for the T-90's (like how Wagdog switched out the B-52Hs for the Tu-22Ms [I don't know why you'd do that, but to each his own]).
Correction, Tu-142M Bears, not Tu-22M Backfires. A much better trade, no?:p Since the Blackjacks (which I swapped out the B-1Bs for, naturally) have strategic bombing covered, I figured strategic ASW was a better deal for a nation of my size rather than overdoing the bombers.

Marx, If you want to, you can make a post about your Military Intelligence spotting the Naval force moving towards your waters.

Ok will do :)

Me support you?

Hmm...I don't think so. No offense, but for the time being, I'm going to be neutral. I need to do a few things before getting involved in any conflict.
No Prob. but you will come to us eventuy.....you'll see


Correction, Tu-142M Bears, not Tu-22M Backfires. A much better trade, no?:p Since the Blackjacks (which I swapped out the B-1Bs for, naturally) have strategic bombing covered, I figured strategic ASW was a better deal for a nation of my size rather than overdoing the bombers.

Almost done with military for factbook, it is a pain finding the military for dependancys tho, I'll probley not swap anything out tho just to uncomplicate things, that and i do want to have a large army.....some of these countrys though have over a million dollors to spend per personel

No Prob. but you will come to us eventuy.....you'll see

I'll answer to your embassy tomorrow, it's late at night here, and I've got a big day of tests and quizzes ahead.

On another note...is everyone now satisfied with my factbook? I still have a little bit more to add, but it's pretty much done. All of the previous concerns and questions...have they been answered sufficiently?

I just remembered one handy thing I have in my procession (sort of) during this South American conflict – Trinidad and Tobago. Elections will likely be halted due to this conflict on its doorstep, and I can easily transport my troops and whoever I ally with troops onto the island for defence or assault as Marx is a stone throw away, depending on who I side with. I’m not going to remain neutral for long, I’m really just waiting for Marx or America’s next move before I declare my stance, and then I’d be willing to let whoever side I’m on use this useful island.

I think it’s obvious I’m leaning towards helping my American allies currently.

Marx, the Russian Naval Task Force has arrived about 30nm offshore of your waters. I kind of set it up for an incedent, so I'll just let you read it for yourself.

Could we have the world map updated. With world war here or on the horizon, it'd be nice to have an accurate global mp for reference. I'd be willing to provide an updated version if the original map maker is unavailable.

EDIT: Though, I'd need a blank world map that can be edited in MS Paint or something basic of that sort.

Courbornne, what is the objective of your destroyer fleet? J/W.

I'm finally on. Looks like this war will be a good one, although it needs to spread into the other hemisphere. Who is gonna ally with marx? Hes gonna get crushed if no one allies with him.

I'm finally on. Looks like this war will be a good one, although it needs to spread into the other hemisphere. Who is gonna ally with marx? Hes gonna get crushed if no one allies with him.

Brazil and the CA will at least keep an reasonable defence against the Americans. I might also send troops to T&T depending on America's next move (to support the NAR most probably). Though my main concern is getting something to happen in Europe and Asia, as there are many possiblities.

Well, he has pretty much all of Latin America on his side.

Courbornne, what is the objective of your destroyer fleet? J/W.

Well, it partly depends on exactly what unfolds. Basically they're there to prevent you from totally running over the Marxikhanian fleet.

Could we have the world map updated. With world war here or on the horizon, it'd be nice to have an accurate global mp for reference. I'd be willing to provide an updated version if the original map maker is unavailable.

EDIT: Though, I'd need a blank world map that can be edited in MS Paint or something basic of that sort.
Brazil got a reply in earlier, so HTT is still around. If I need to I can TG him a reminder though.;)
Well, I'd like to ally with Marxi, but the thing is I'd be inviting a dogpile in the worst way. Six Blackjacks can do a LOT, mind; but only so much and my army isn't really much to write home about. Especially since Animarnia's against Marxikhan for the moment and fully half my tanks are deployed with them to Kazakhstan, although we could request to withdraw citing "security concerns as neutrals relating to the general war" I guess...

Well basically, it's Marx and myself (CAE), although everyone seems to be on Marx's case... Brazil is showing support.

One the other side, we have NAR (obviously), Animarnia is waving the flag of death at Marx, and well a Russian fleet at Marx's doorstep speaks for itselfs.

Well, it partly depends on exactly what unfolds. Basically they're there to prevent you from totally running over the Marxikhanian fleet.

So far they're not there to attack the Marxi navy, only to observe and possibly rough up the passing fishermen and merchant shippers.

Latest, before you bug me... (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/earthss-3.png)

So far they're not there to attack the Marxi navy, only to observe and possibly rough up the passing fishermen and merchant shippers.

That may be true, but I have no clue that you're being sincere. :p

Anyway, we're not going to take any aggressive action against Russia unless you really f*ck up those fisherman and shippers.

Has anyone actually assaulted or have plans to assault Marx etc. yet, apart from America? Because I was going to send a rather menacing amount of troops and a small naval force to protect Trinidad and Tobago from any attack (which might trigger a Marx assault), and I don't want anyone really to interupt this an act of aggression (yet anyway). Especially Japan and Russia, as they are too nations I'd like to keep good relations with for at least the beginning of all this (and hopefully throughout).

Sorry for the posting delay, the news of the VT incident is all over UVA's campus.

As for the next move here:

I'll probaly be launching another diplomatic assault with "cleverly pieced-together" parts to continue my assault through words-leading up to my military invasion. Next post I'll be transfering troops and ships down to San Diego, San Antonio, Tempe, Miami, Havana, and Jacksonville to shore up my southern front (note: My other fronts will still be defended-just I'm siphoning a bit here).

This is turing into a very lopsided war.

This is turing into a very lopsided war.

If China was more active they would probably support you as they seem to dislike America, and Japan might...erm...and I won't attack you personally, as we have an anti-aggression pact.

Yeah, my buddy goes to VT. He was in the dorm next to Norris. He's good, though, so I'm happy. Anyways, answering Hanako's question, the UR is currently operating a task force of ten ships and two nuclear powered attack subs a few miles off of Marxikhani waters. It could heat up there should there be a conflict between fishermen and the task force. There are also two GMC's that are with the task force, one of which that is armed with "Smog Rockets," a Russian experimental weapon utilizing Agent 15. The GEACPS is sending a small naval group down to separate Marxi and I, but I have a feeling it could churn up a conflict in the area.

i hope some people start joining marx, cuz otherwise it'll be slaughter. Cuz i dont think any european nations are looking at allying at them. But you never know, someone could pull off a crazy stunt.

Well then I might just send my troops. I'm only really getting more involved in this conflict than I planned too currently due to the fact from this I'm waiting for it to spill out into other continents.

Remember, you don't have to ally with them because you want to. Say the WEF for some reason or another gets mad at Futuris. They assault, and Futuris, though they didn't exactly agree with the Marxi's at all, are forced to ally with them out of necessity.

*All nations used were randomly picked. Not suggesting anything to either of them.

i hope some people start joining marx, cuz otherwise it'll be slaughter. Cuz i dont think any european nations are looking at allying at them. But you never know, someone could pull off a crazy stunt.

Why don't you, then we can disagree and cause a bit of a argument between us - though that may result in various other people getting involved and possibly lead to a two front war with me and Russia which I know you don't want. I'm sure some more communist and Asian countries might ally with him, I might though I think that would be stupid at this current time - and unless the American evidence is crap - it wouldn't really make sense.

Why don't you, then we can disagree and cause a bit of a argument between us - though that may result in various other people getting involved and possibly lead to a two front war with me and Russia which I know you don't want. I'm sure some more communist and Asian countries might ally with him, I might though I think that would be stupid at this current time - and unless the American evidence is crap - it wouldn't really make sense.

There is no way im fighting a 2 front war + the NAR later. Id be screwed.
what might make it interesting was if the NAR attacked T&T (hint). That would even out the sides as you would be dragged in with marx, and i might follow you. Or i could stay with the UR and the NAR. But at least it would start something.

:p Hello, good to see more interest in the thread just read it myself and im about to go back and post but Im unsure if UR bombed me yet, or if GEACAPS is offcaily on my side

If it sounds more fair, The UR won't attack any other Europeans unless they pull some stupid shit versus the UR or its interests, which I find hard for either of them to do.

:p Hello, good to see more interest in the thread just read it myself and im about to go back and post but Im unsure if UR bombed me yet, or if GEACAPS is offcaily on my side

Nope, not yet, but your fishing and merchant fleets are being watched...

yo k

I sense conflict in the Marxi waters...

your sense's are off



(wow i cant spell :p :rolleyes: )

i think a NAR attk on T&T would be a great equilizer for the sides, because it would draw the WEF and maybe the GGA into the fight for marx.

your sense's are off



(wow i cant spell :p :rolleyes: )

I wouldn't be so sure. Check the thread.

wait are you expecting me to be upset because of the fishing boat accident, you silly goose! :rolleyes: IU have no need to be "spiced up" I am a very mild person at heart and for a while, lets keep it that way...No joking butare u expecting me to say somthing about u destroying my ship?

Remember, you don't have to ally with them because you want to. Say the WEF for some reason or another gets mad at Futuris. They assault, and Futuris, though they didn't exactly agree with the Marxi's at all, are forced to ally with them out of necessity.

*All nations used were randomly picked. Not suggesting anything to either of them.

For acknowledgable reasons - my current political leader has expressed at numerous times distaste for European powers.

MULTI QUOTE EVERYONE....

How about instaed of talking about who to ally with, just do it in IC? It's a lot more fun to realize that someone just betrayed you in IC, and now you have to change plans, lend money, forge new alliances, break old ones, etc. etc. then finding out in OOC "Oh, well um, I don't think I'm going to be your ally anymore, sorry. Maybe you could ally with someone else?"

The ONLY problem with this Earth that I see so far, is that we have way to many should-be-IC turning into OOC. In SYAE, nations were like "If I invade so-so, will you retalitate?" Eventually, nothing happened, activity stalled, and it began to fall apart (I must admit I haven' been active there lately). I understand that some of you are "newer" than others at this, so take is maybe as advice at what I've seen works.

I myself am not the perfect image of "experienced" - maybe AB or Candistan can help?

I dunno, I thought it might provoke your navy to at least SAY something about killing your citizens near your waters.

For acknowledgable reasons - my current political leader has expressed at numerous times distaste for European powers.



How about instaed of talking about who to ally with, just do it in IC? It's a lot more fun to realize that someone just betrayed you in IC, and now you have to change plans, lend money, forge new alliances, break old ones, etc. etc. then finding out in OOC "Oh, well um, I don't think I'm going to be your ally anymore, sorry. Maybe you could ally with someone else?"

The ONLY problem with this Earth that I see so far, is that we have way to many should-be-IC turning into OOC. In SYAE, nations were like "If I invade so-so, will you retalitate?" Eventually, nothing happened, activity stalled, and it began to fall apart (I must admit I haven' been active there lately). I understand that some of you are "newer" than others at this, so take is maybe as advice at what I've seen works.

I myself am not the perfect image of "experienced" - maybe AB or Candistan can help?

I personally try to only answer alliance questions if asked. I try to entice action with the stuff I am doing now, like crushing someone's fishing boat or eventually firing upon them if it comes to that. So, I agree with you Futuris. I suggest OOC debate on what to do IC be owered in volume slightly and save it for more important wuestions and reminders.

I personally try to only answer alliance questions if asked. I try to entice action with the stuff I am doing now, like crushing someone's fishing boat or eventually firing upon them if it comes to that. So, I agree with you Futuris. I suggest OOC debate on what to do IC be owered in volume slightly and save it for more important wuestions and reminders.

i second that. now lets get to work... (i will be gone in 15 min for an hour, and may not be back on til 2morrow so if i don't respond to something don't get mad. I still share a cpu with family, so i cant use it all the time)

Kampfers, I'm not getting the Denotes suspected part of your last post. Can you clarify it please?


**Off topic, but things like this is what this thread is for**

pretty much it says that if the WEF declares war on marx, so will I. If they declare war on the NAR, so will I.

It means I have an indecisive leader who doesn't know who to believe/support, and will follow the WEF's example...

Marxikhan, I have not officially declared myself on your side, I merely sent a peacekeeping force.

but if your talking about the ooc part, i was just commenting on how i like to keep to myself as marx said.

alright, im gone. I might or might not be back in an hour. Depends if family lets me. If not, I will get on tommorow at about 5-6 central time.

kool, just making sure, I asked so that i could plan my next move accordingly

pretty much it says that if the WEF declares war on marx, so will I. If they declare war on the NAR, so will I.

It means I have an indecisive leader who doesn't know who to believe/support, and will follow the WEF's example...

And indecisive, insucure, Dictator, Now that is funny

Well, I was talking about the IC part, Kampfers, but I'll wait for the answer 'till you come back.

And Marx, I'm waiting for your next move so I too can plan accordingly.

Hey, I got a telegram about growing conflicts. Im a really sorry that I haven't been on but I really need to focus on school right now, I'll get some time soon (tomorrow, thursday, and weekend)

If I don't finish my factbook by then, my military forces is abunch of soviet made stuff.
Excuse me, but I must be off again.

good to know, though i am waiting for the next move of the NAR,

Slick move, Animarnia. I was actually planning on the GRU doing the same thing later on. This could turn out to be a funny meeting later on.

hmmmm, do i smell a conflict from inside the allies?

Imagine something like this lol

Somewhere inside Bogata, Marxikhan

GRU operative 1: Okay, do you have the shot?

GRU operative 2:Yeah, one sec.

*Door is opened and two Animarnian agents run in...

Animarnian Agent 1: Okay get ready to take him ou...what the hell are you doing here?

GRU operative 1: What are you here for!?

GRU operative 2: I have the shot, should I take it?

Animarnian agent 2: What!? He's our kill!

GRU operative 2: Nuh uh! He's totally mine.

*Shouting match erupts for about ten minutes until Marxikhani Agents move in and arrest all four.

*snicker*

yeah

"he's my kill!"

"He's so tottally mine!"

"We were here first!"

either that or ithe guy will die with two seperate angles of attack and be really hated..that would confuse the hell out of them.

and Marxikhan nah wasn't offended in the least :) just thought I'd clarify as in this history "India" never existed but I do need to get my Alt history finished so calling us the "Animarnian empire" would be more accurate and insulting ICly but eh no worries ^_^

Candistans plan works for me

The one I played out above? I have to say, that would be funny if they didn't get arrested. Even if they did, it would add some comic relief to our grim and serious war.

The one I played out above? I have to say, that would be funny if they didn't get arrested. Even if they did, it would add some comic relief to our grim and serious war.

Comic relief is always good during the blood, guts and death of war :) *waves the flag of death*

Given that pages upon pages have probably been written in the time I've taken to write this post, what is the current global conflict in brief? I understand that there has been some sorta WTC-esque bombing in Havana, but what are you guys plotting occly?

EDIT: If you need a reason for a European war to erupt, this small expansionist, socialist nation could help there. Perhaps re-ignite fervor for a global socialist order...

thanks for voluntering, though we Communist/Soicalist dont need the world another excuse to hate us. As for the Europe Conflict it all appears to lie in the hands of the WEF...and in my opinion i think they might come on our side considering what the UR just did :D But then again it is up to you, but i might have to condem your immoral and unjust veiw of Communism(yes a bit hyocritical seeing as i did do somthing like that)

Given that pages upon pages have probably been written in the time I've taken to write this post, what is the current global conflict in brief? I understand that there has been some sorta WTC-esque bombing in Havana, but what are you guys plotting occly?

EDIT: If you need a reason for a European war to erupt, this small expansionist, socialist nation could help there. Perhaps re-ignite fervor for a global socialist order...

I like your fervor, boy. Anyways, to answer you question, the NAR is mobilizing, The Latinoamericans have united against NAR and friends, the UR has a small naval detatchment near Marxikhan with experimental rockets ready to be launched at them in a moment's notice, the GEACPS has sent a naval fleet to keep the peace between the UR and Marxi's (Probably won't work, no offense Courbornne), a Russian sub just crushed a Marxi fishing boat, yeah, thats all I have to say for now.

thanks for voluntering, though we Communist/Soicalist dont need the world another excuse to hate us. As for the Europe Conflict it all appears to lie in the hands of the WEF...and in my opinion i think they might come on our side considering what the UR just did :D But then again it is up to you, but i might have to condem your immoral and unjust veiw of Communism(yes a bit hyocritical seeing as i did do somthing like that)

What do you mean the UR is on your side?

The one I played out above? I have to say, that would be funny if they didn't get arrested. Even if they did, it would add some comic relief to our grim and serious war.

they don't have to be arrested, they could be dead :p though no one would belive that my government didnt kill them, but then again i dont think i would have to explain the killings of armed assasains

What do you mean the UR is on your side?

No i ment the fishing boat incedent

(Probably won't work, no offense Courbornne)

I never really intended it to last very long. :p

That's all that has happened so far? Jeez, the way you guys are talking the war has already come to MAD!

Well, I suppose I should ask then which of the many leftist nations would be interested in forming a second Comintern to crush the divided capitalists once war begins in full? Who wants an old fashioned two-sided war when you can have three? I hear its all the craze nowadays...

No need to turn allies away no matter their ideaology, the war of wich you speak though, will be on the horizon, just after we kick some North American Empire ASS!:upyours: :p :D

Oh snap, the shit totally hit the fan right there.

lol

did you just invite me to attack your armed forces??

No....i need to rephrase that....definetly not what i wanted to say now that i read that again

Ideology, in most cases, is merely a front for a more real politik cause. For the USSR it was attaining warm water ports and buffers between its foes. For Yugoslavia (myself,) its to control as much of the Balkans as possible, the Bosporus Straits in particular. Since Yugoslavia is small and relatively backwards, it will need allies, and what better allies than ideological allies? If socialism actually manages to rise again, all the better, but mediation and humiliating defeat seems a most likely end to this war than unconditional surrender or total annexations. I'm just putting my bets on my side not being the ones on the humiliation side.

Tell me when you rewrite the post, Marx.

i just changed the end...still threating just a little less stuipid :p

Replied to your reply, Marx.

That's all that has happened so far? Jeez, the way you guys are talking the war has already come to MAD!

Well, I suppose I should ask then which of the many leftist nations would be interested in forming a second Comintern to crush the divided capitalists once war begins in full? Who wants an old fashioned two-sided war when you can have three? I hear its all the craze nowadays...

I'd be interested in such a thing, but I also don't intend to attack Marxikhan, Brasil, or the CAE anytime soon. (but maybe later)

Ideology, in most cases, is merely a front for a more real politik cause. For the USSR it was attaining warm water ports and buffers between its foes. For Yugoslavia (myself,) its to control as much of the Balkans as possible, the Bosporus Straits in particular. Since Yugoslavia is small and relatively backwards, it will need allies, and what better allies than ideological allies? If socialism actually manages to rise again, all the better, but mediation and humiliating defeat seems a most likely end to this war than unconditional surrender or total annexations. I'm just putting my bets on my side not being the ones on the humiliation side.

You've got a point, but it may be awile before we get the full international stage in full swing, and i may be interested depending on the amount of countrys each side has...

Although I can sense the tension in the air, I am grateful that I am not in any way inside the conflict between the Americas and Russia versus a small nation in Latin America. Still, spreading rumors about my imperlialistic and expansionist ways around the globe is always fun. Especially if it includes gaining land in one way or another.

Now I'll have 13 million more people to turn into fanatics! :p

Sorry Max, but I'm staying out of your troubles. I feel only the slightest pity at your current position....and slaughers are only fun to watch if you're not involved. ;)

hey and the plot thickins in the world war three thread....and interesting point in the war(or in the end/ whenever the hell that will be) would be Americas apology to CAE and Marxikhan for their intels. fabrication...nice touch by the way for having your Leaders not know of the fabrication...makes it much more interesting...if you dont mind me asking, who did give the order? Was it somone from in your cabinet or an outside instagator

No need to turn allies away no matter their ideaology, the war of wich you speak though, will be on the horizon, just after we kick some North American Empire ASS!:upyours: :p :D

Why is America always an Empire in most Earths? :P

This earth, we're a republic...but we just have a very corrupt and very powerful intelligence agency that wants to play things their own way and are twisting the strings just enough to do it.

hey and the plot thickins in the world war three thread....and interesting point in the war(or in the end/ whenever the hell that will be) would be Americas apology to CAE and Marxikhan for their intels. fabrication...nice touch by the way for having your Leaders not know of the fabrication...makes it much more interesting...if you dont mind me asking, who did give the order? Was it somone from in your cabinet or an outside instagator

Yeah, to everyone outside of OMI, it's genuine-even Frist thinks its genuine. The guy who gave the order is Kurt Robinson-he's the OMI Director-General, a fairly shadowy man who is pretty much one of the most powerful people in the NAR, but no ne actually knows that. He's about on par with Vice Chancellor Brownback (and in the NAR, the Vice Chancellor actually has a whole load of power [unlike modern-day VP]).

To end the war, OMI may be dismantled and may form a rebel faction inside the NAR. Or, as a constrast, if people by into my left-of-the-loop plan for a conflict to even further ravage the world after this war, they will sell out mankind.

sorry i ment that as an insult to your government...more of an IC thing than an OCC thing

sorry i ment that as an insult to your government...more of an IC thing than an OCC thing

lol, I know. But it's actually true-in nearly every Earth I've seen, America is an empire.

Yeah, to everyone outside of OMI, it's genuine-even Frist thinks its genuine. The guy who gave the order is Kurt Robinson-he's the OMI Director-General, a fairly shadowy man who is pretty much one of the most powerful people in the NAR, but no ne actually knows that. He's about on par with Vice Chancellor Brownback (and in the NAR, the Vice Chancellor actually has a whole load of power [unlike modern-day VP]).

To end the war, OMI may be dismantled and may form a rebel faction inside the NAR. Or, as a constrast, if people by into my left-of-the-loop plan for a conflict to even further ravage the world after this war, they will sell out mankind.

Awsome, another thing to look forward to...also if we do end up losing, that will provide us with a distraction to revolt/begin Anti-Right war

Awsome, another thing to look forward to...also if we do end up losing, that will provide us with a distraction to revolt/begin Anti-Right war

By left-of-the-loop, I mean that it will be...different than what most earths are used to. Of course, this will have to be a planned thing-it won't be possible if not.

But I digress-I'll leave that 'till this war is over, than bring it up as everyone rebuilds.

lol, I know. But it's actually true-in nearly every Earth I've seen, America is an empire.

Well because most people who play this are more politicly aware and a populer trend for the somewhat politicly aware(including me at times) is to see America as an imperial power....but then again the definition of empire has somthing to do with owning land over seas or somthing like that...ie. we used to have a bunch of pacific islands, people consider Iraq a land grab, hawaii ect ect

Marxikhan, it's on. Prepare for a conflict, for the UR is sending some more firepower to its Task force. w00t.

oh snap! :(

Read the last reply I made. Your gov't should start to get scared about...oh, maybe now.

Marxikhan, it's on. Prepare for a conflict, for the UR is sending some more firepower to its Task force. w00t.

Sweet. Then Tijuana Mexico is going down to supplement that (That is OOC knowledge!!!!)

i know, i know...*starts to tg CAE*

i know, i know...*starts to tg CAE*

Lol-though I may actually take advantage of this war to secure bits of the Carribbean too (I'm thinking PR, Jamaica, and the Bahamas, specifically) but that's a maybe so far.

That should be interesting....hopfully wagdog can RP some resistance....i hope some of my Latino-American Unity got through to them

That should be interesting....hopfully wagdog can RP some resistance....i hope some of my Latino-American Unity got through to them

See, I'm right now just trying to promote good 'ole American friendliness through my press conferences...while hiding my military gear up (which I claim for security).

i hope you have just as much succsess as America's current admin.

That's why Dubya is only my State dude, rather than my Chancellor :P
Frist is a much more accomplished dude (IRL) and a better personality too (Tennessee, not Texas!)

You think the UR and NAR should formally declare anything together yet, AB?

Marx, when the time comes, I am going to RP a few small 'rebel' attacks inside your Colombian city of Cali, courtesy of the GRU. If you have any objections, just tell me.

You think the UR and NAR should formally declare anything together yet, AB?

Marx, when the time comes, I am going to RP a few small 'rebel' attacks inside your Colombian city of Cali, courtesy of the GRU. If you have any objections, just tell me.

Not yet. I need to grab some international comments on my last speech from the "neutral" nations out there in Europe and Asialand.

But my "mobilization of bases" is basically a gearing up for war. The Republic basically needs one more belligerent reply from the two nations (as Frist states that he is willing to work "hand in hand"-so according to his logic, Marx and the CAE are hiding stuff and need to be taken down).