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That a large thing, almost as large as my tower system.

bah if the mongols can do it, so can I. Not that I am going to.

Ah but then the Chinese did not have me there planning their defense now did they? :D

The voice of confidence...Remember there are a lot of other countries out there, wouldn't do to get cocky...

Hmm... I want to enter the big Aust-Frozopia &co war, but I don't know which side to choose yet. It mainly depends on whether I make peace with Terror Incognita or not.

By the way, for the map, I've colonised a far amount of the small islands in the Pacific, with Hawaii being the only really major ones.

C'mon. Back me up.

now, forgive me if this sounds silly, but do we have a "big list of threads about stuff happening in this reality" or some such? because i'm reasonably sure there's stuff going on i don't know about...

edit:
i just looked back and noticed i had missed several things, so a consolidated thread list would be nice.

Which is why I have no thread as yet, only a 'Im moving north' statement. Anyone know what Affie's pop. was back then??

Which is why I have no thread as yet, only a 'Im moving north' statement. Anyone know what Affie's pop. was back then??

Africa? I dunno...

well, northern africa was pretty well populated eygpt and all that.. centeral and southern i wouldn't know about though.

If anything, I would think that Southern Africa would have about 20 million people, split among tribes, so if you start there Warshrike, you'll have to unite all of southern africa before expanding.

Hmmn... How long would this take... Say, sometime next week?? Sunday would be good... As I said I dont wanna make a thread yet And Ill be away from this sunday till next.
So as I also said at an earlier time, I was only going up to that second lake region, maybe a lil further. Anyway, typing up a MASSIVE rant elsewhere, bye!!

Hmmn... How long would this take... Say, sometime next week?? Sunday would be good... As I said I dont wanna make a thread yet And Ill be away from this sunday till next.
So as I also said at an earlier time, I was only going up to that second lake region, maybe a lil further. Anyway, typing up a MASSIVE rant elsewhere, bye!!

Don't feel rushed about it. No one is really interested in Southern Africa at this point, so theres no need to be in a hurry. But it shouldn't take you long to get control of southern africa. However you can only be in a single area, not two...meaning that you have to pick between southern africa and that lake area.

Toop Moon Rising! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10395989#post10395989)

War on Oda, mobolising troops getting international attention, etc.

Toop Moon Rising! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10395989#post10395989)

War on Oda, mobolising troops getting international attention, etc.

"AHahah! I love that joke!" continues laughing, then sees no one else is... "it was a joke, right?"

I dont think so.

Anyway, I've been unable to find anything relating to the population of the region in which i'm situated, so i'll have to guess.
And I think I'm going to expand my empire too, otherwise I'll remain isolated.

I dont think so.

Anyway, I've been unable to find anything relating to the population of the region in which i'm situated, so i'll have to guess.
And I think I'm going to expand my empire too, otherwise I'll remain isolated.

Your right next to someone...like you both have severa hundred miles of border touching...so...you're not exactly isolated...

Your right next to someone...like you both have severa hundred miles of border touching...so...you're not exactly isolated...

Heh!?! Who? What did I miss?

I'll have a border cuz I'm moving east (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10396565#post10396565). Dont forget Im the one in central asia(afghanistan-Tajikistan area)

Due to other commitments, Terror Incognitia takes no position in the conflict between Tadjikistan and (random tribespeople); or that between Toops and Oda. Other commitments permitting, we are happy to sell supplies of all kinds to both sides at reasonable rates :)

Due to other commitments, Terror Incognitia takes no position in the conflict between Tadjikistan and (random tribespeople); or that between Toops and Oda. Other commitments permitting, we are happy to sell supplies of all kinds to both sides at reasonable rates :)

Always the mediator eh, Terro?;)

Mediator?!? I'm far more despicable than that! I'm a profiteer....:)
I'm happy to see others at war cos I can sell them stuff, and they're less likely to attack me.

official statement *While we are deeply saddened to see more members of the brotherhood of nations engaging in "brotherly love" we se no cause for this to prevent normal relations with both sides.*

;)

I usually do the same; dont waiste your human resources in a war, make others waiste theirs while you make money.

sounds like a good plan, untill you think longer term still: what happens when one of them wins? recovers? decides they can take you? all the money in the world won't help you then if no one thinks you're worth it. it pays to have friends.

it also pays not to have everyone you boarder as a friend.. no room for expansion. the ocean is good like that.

keeping the people hapy also helps of course, you can't have them revolting in the middle of a war! even if you're not involved, it weakens you.

I'm interested. I'll be playing an ancient Kilani kingodm (What willl one day become modern day Kilani). I'm thinking Roman-style tactics...

sounds like a good plan, untill you think longer term still: what happens when one of them wins? recovers? decides they can take you? all the money in the world won't help you then if no one thinks you're worth it. it pays to have friends.

it also pays not to have everyone you boarder as a friend.. no room for expansion. the ocean is good like that.

keeping the people hapy also helps of course, you can't have them revolting in the middle of a war! even if you're not involved, it weakens you.

If one of them decides he can take me on I'll remind the other that I supplied him earlier at good prices and it is time to repay the debt, 2(of which one still in top condition) against 1, cannot fail.

I usually favor one side and give them more weapons(aor at a lower price) than the other, often I supply only one side.

I'm interested. I'll be playing an ancient Kilani kingodm (What willl one day become modern day Kilani). I'm thinking Roman-style tactics...

Then I welcome you to the Past Tech world. Feel free to decide were you think you kingdom is on the world map, make an introduction RP or just join one of those that have already been going on(although much would depend on where you are and how easily you make contact with them.
Its the late Medieval times, somewhere between 1500 and 1600, most fighting is done with cold steel. gunpowder is still in its experimental stage(some nations dont even know gunpowder yet).

Kilani, most of northern asia from the Han's great wall to far eastern siberia is unclaimed. I think toops would probally be your closest neighbour and Kirisubo and Frozopia arn't too far away either.

a lot of europe is still unclaimed as well

heres the map as it stands so far

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8258/ptrpworldmap0vs.png

Ive been thinking, depending on the success I have in Aust, I may have a big civil war.

BTW guys Im going on holiday today for a week, so all my RP's just remain on hold. For the moment I am gathering resources and soldiers to invade aust. Then I am going to meet with the Kiriusbo, gather more resources there, and then off to Aust.

And where is Reallly drunk (Ostia)?

Since I'm to lazy to look for the map everytime I copied it and since I'm still to lazy to get it right now, uploading it to my own webspace seemed easier.
And here (http://users.pandora.be/bdc/Tadj/ptrpworldmap0vs.png) it is.
Make a choice and Philanchez will probably update it when he has time.

Is my land the two Big white things? + The small islands around and the Kuriles islands? In the top right corner that is.

i believe so Frozopia.

Awesome. For some reason I thought I was on one land mass. Man this is going to change things. For a start I might state my population at what I had initially intended it to be (35 million as opposed to 20).

Awesome. For some reason I thought I was on one land mass. Man this is going to change things. For a start I might state my population at what I had initially intended it to be (35 million as opposed to 20).
Why? Thats a bit unfair.

See, I wasn't thinking, when I said profiteering, of sitting back and letting everyone fight while I make money. More of just keeping an eye on, and making money from, other peoples' wars while I'm committed elsewhere.

My entire foreign policy is based around preventing just what you describe, Angermanland. Stopping anyone from winning is the whole point. Like Britain in the C17th/18th. Only intervene to keep a balance of competing powers. I plan to be a little more active than that though...

On Frozopia's current population - can we have a brief rundown of what pop. people are RPing? Just to clarify? Doesn't have to be equal, just as long as we know what we're up against. I'm currently RPing 20 million, so

Terror Incognitia - 20million.
Aust - 15 million.
Oda noh Nobunaga - 90-100 million
Kirisubo - 10 million
Tadjikistan - 20 million
Warshrike - 10 million (unless you decide otherwise...)
Angermanland - 6 million

(for convenience if I edit this to contain all the pop totals...)

15 million

90-100 million. (It's china *shrugs*)

i'm figuring a population of 10 million for Kirisubo.

While I would originally have gone with a small population I am now forced to make it a bit bigger to compensate for the size and terrain of my land. We'll see later whether it needs to be altered or not.

20 million.

So basic message is 35 mill looks a bit high. (Will continue updating the list as and when people post populations.)

I have made a map of the trade routes: http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ptrpworldmap0vs9vf.png

That looks like it was a lot of effort, man. Useful if you wanna know where to send 'privateers' :p ;)

Caladonn, what colour are you? Do you in fact appear on the map? (Anyone else who's sure of the answer please tell me.)

all things considered, my land would be over crowded with 10 million :S [there's a huge mountian range down the middle of the south island, it has some active volcanos near the middle of the north, and the northern islands are small. plus a LOT of it is farm land.] in our reality it only recently got above 4 million. however, in the interests of not getting totaly wiped out, i'm going to say it has.. oh, *thinks* about 15 million. i think.. tell me if that looks wrong.

also, with those trade routs? there should NEVER be one directly from aust to mainland Angermanland even today, in our reality with modern ships, vertually nothing goes across there. it's dangerous. it should go north from Aust, through the islands [though it Could bypass terror incognita[sp]] and then south down the chain to Angermanland's north island. even from sydney to hobart [an actuall sailing race, hobart is in tasmania] is hazardous for a sailing ship.

eh?? You think the entire world is trading?? EH?? So, anyone rekkon that about 1 million would be a good pop for me?? All though I have a fair amount of land, lets face it. Afrika stinks. Like elephant crap. I think thatll be my best war unit. No, not the elephant rider. The elephant anus.

eh?? You think the entire world is trading?? EH?? So, anyone rekkon that about 1 million would be a good pop for me?? All though I have a fair amount of land, lets face it. Afrika stinks. Like elephant crap. I think thatll be my best war unit. No, not the elephant rider. The elephant anus.

Funny. No, but I would put your pop at 10 mil.

all things considered, my land would be over crowded with 10 million :S [there's a huge mountian range down the middle of the south island, it has some active volcanos near the middle of the north, and the northern islands are small. plus a LOT of it is farm land.] in our reality it only recently got above 4 million. however, in the interests of not getting totaly wiped out, i'm going to say it has.. oh, *thinks* about 15 million. i think.. tell me if that looks wrong.

also, with those trade routs? there should NEVER be one directly from aust to mainland Angermanland even today, in our reality with modern ships, vertually nothing goes across there. it's dangerous. it should go north from Aust, through the islands [though it Could bypass terror incognita[sp]] and then south down the chain to Angermanland's north island. even from sydney to hobart [an actuall sailing race, hobart is in tasmania] is hazardous for a sailing ship.
Having been to NZ I can tell you it's crowed with 4 million!

did you ever leave Auckland? hehe... aproximatly half the population lives in that city. the south island is less crowded.. the other thing is, we have a strong tendancy to avoid building "up" when we can still build "out"... probibly something to do with the massive number of fault lines everywhere.

but yeah.. anyone got a clue as to what would be a good population for Angermanland that both allows it to function in the wider world, and not starve to death or die of disese due to over crowding?

This is an alternative reality, I dont think anyone is going to mind if its a bit bigger than 4 million.

did you ever leave Auckland? hehe... aproximatly half the population lives in that city. the south island is less crowded.. the other thing is, we have a strong tendancy to avoid building "up" when we can still build "out"... probibly something to do with the massive number of fault lines everywhere.

but yeah.. anyone got a clue as to what would be a good population for Angermanland that both allows it to function in the wider world, and not starve to death or die of disese due to over crowding?
I was one of the camper Van lions tourists-if you want the RWC 2011 to work you'd better build some hotels fast!

did you ever leave Auckland? hehe... aproximatly half the population lives in that city. the south island is less crowded.. the other thing is, we have a strong tendancy to avoid building "up" when we can still build "out"... probibly something to do with the massive number of fault lines everywhere.

but yeah.. anyone got a clue as to what would be a good population for Angermanland that both allows it to function in the wider world, and not starve to death or die of disese due to over crowding?

6.5 or 7 million is good for NZ.

On Frozopia's current population - can we have a brief rundown of what pop. people are RPing? Just to clarify? Doesn't have to be equal, just as long as we know what we're up against. I'm currently RPing 20 million, so

Terror Incognitia - 20million.
Aust - 15 million.
Oda noh Nobunaga - 90-100 million
Kirisubo - 10 million
Tadjikistan - 20 million
Warshrike - 10 million (unless you decide otherwise...)
Angermanland - 10 million (ditto)

(for convenience if I edit this to contain all the pop totals...)

25 Mil.

Sorry Ive been away a while but I had an interesting week to say the least. Can someone give me a quick rundown of new nations and conquests that are not on the map so that I can edit the map?

I'm sure there must be stuff, but I can't remember. Mostly preparing for the Aust Invasion. Diplomacy, preparing fleets, etc.

I am back, it's been awhile but i was very busy with work....i would still like to carry out the plans with Kirisubo and Frozopia...i was wondering how we will continue...

Oh, Philanchez, can you put everyone's names on the map, cos I lose track of the number of times people have asked "Who is 'x'" where 'x' is a colour.

If I can remember them all.

lol, fair play. There's a summary post somewhere above /\ of what we could remember, beyond that you could always ask.

25 Mil.

Sorry Ive been away a while but I had an interesting week to say the least. Can someone give me a quick rundown of new nations and conquests that are not on the map so that I can edit the map?

Heres a rundown of whats happening in the Empire of Han:

I've conquered the Korean Peninsula. All the land south of the border down to Bangkok, and all the way west to the River Indus in India, and east to the coast in what is Vietnam. And I've finished getting up the rest of my Coast line.

Diplomatically:

I've met a few people...can't name them all...bad memory...

Map (http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/439/ptrpworldmap0qa.png)

Who has Rp's on the go...i need to expand my diplomatic relations. If it would be possible could come one please post some thread links?.

Thank you

Off the top of my head, Tadjikistan is rping expansion against the tribespeople, possibly expanding to war on Oda. Toops is preparing war on Oda. Frozopia and Kirisubo are still working on invading Aust; I've now joined the defending side. Caladonn, Angermanland are involved in diplomacy to decide their position in that conflict. Oda has a diplomatic mission in Aust, as well.

Links to follow.

AFAIK, little to no activity in Europe.

[Really Drunk, where are you? Are you not on the map?]

Im Ostia, i am allied with Kurisubo and Frozopia...i will invade Aust aswell..i have to some how make a sweep into africa so i can move troops from Italy south then swing towards the east making it easier to assist my allies. I have not determined the amount of men and resourses i will use in this effort but it has to be done.

I thank you for filling me in, the links would be great :)

So here we have Aust's general diplomacy thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464780)
This is the Aust invasion thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467366)
This is my (dead I think) thread with Caladonn (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463629)
Toop's invasion of Oda (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10395989#post10395989)
I seem to remember Tadjik was doin stuff, though potentially no thread cos there isn't opposition at the moment.
And....Philanchez had one. Not looked in a while, can't find it now. Not that I'd be involved anyway, most likely.

Plus...Oda's 'Han expansion' thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467592)
Also The Scandinavians have one. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467085)
Found Philanchez's one as well/ (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466894)
Think that's about it.

How you gonna make it here? Without leaving last decade?

Worth allying with Qarez and using their navy to transport when you get there. Possibly?

Ok i have posted in the Aust Invasion thread. I am also sending a diplomatic messenger to Qarez...that is a brilliant idea...

Uh, is this thing still open? I would like to rp a primitive Lizard people, called "Skaal," living in the deep swamps of....where ever it is you guys are(map?)

No contact will be made with the outside world...until someone discovers them. Sound good?

really drunk, Frozopia has singed the triple alliance treaty.

A Kirisuban ambassador has also been sent to the Han kingdom and the Frozopians have done the same.

Are we making some kind of deal with the Han Empire? what ever it is you have my full co-operation...Loyalty is the key. Also i have 3 Entire legions preparing to assist us in Aust, that is close to 30,000 men...plus General Regulus's command of 13,500.

Kirisubo is only after the re-opening of direct trade. you'll need to ask Frozo what he's up to :)

I still love the way...you guys are assuming you _get_ to Aust :gundge:

Um....so can I join?

Uh, is this thing still open? I would like to rp a primitive Lizard people, called "Skaal," living in the deep swamps of....where ever it is you guys are(map?)

No contact will be made with the outside world...until someone discovers them. Sound good?

if you pick a free part of the world map then you'll be in. most of the action seems to be taking place in the far east at the moment.

I see where you are comming from...i need naval transport from Africa that can move 30,000 troops....that is why i have to get in contact with Qarez..also it might be possible for Kurisuban ships to come and get my troops on the coast? or Frozo ships...? it would take waaaaaay to long for my own ships...

where can i get a hold of the map?

21st page of this thread...most recent i do beleive...

heres the map

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/439/ptrpworldmap0qa.png

call my population six million. pretend i'm briton. or japan ... roughly equivilant land masses.. humongadigiously large populations. i begin to suspect, however, that our planet is physicaly larger than earth.

I think Frozo is transporting Kirisubo as well as themselves. Ahhh, who knows. Havent heard from Qarez recently, I dont think.

umm well thats bloody horrible...it would take forever to build ships...LOL..i have to find a way around it...i could buy them..but from who...

Baja California will do nicely, as long as I can rp it being all swamp. Just to make sure it's not "too" fantasy, here is a representitive picture of the Skaal:
http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9507756/Lizardmen/skink.jpg
If all is well, what should my population be? I would imagine fairly large, since all Skaal are asexual and born fertilized.(1 egg laid every year after thier 16th year) Their lifespan would be long as well, perhaps 190 years?

Take ships to Suez, and with Roman efficiency dismantle them, take them to the Red Sea, and remantle (is that a word? is now...) them there. Then sail in your own ships.

How large you mean by large? At the mo 15-20 mill seems a roughly average population...do you think you could have at least a slower growing pop? High infant mortality sorta thing?

i suppose as long as magic isn't used a lizard race would work. Toops people are goblins.

A voyage from europe to kirisubo going round south america would take about 2 years travel time.

Maybe the ostians could dig a canal?

High infant mortality sounds right. The swamp is dangerous after all. Right now I'll say I have 15 million, and just build up from there.
Oh and as a note, average height is 4'5.

Canal probably take longer. Plus a little above current tech? I think...
I reckon go for crossing Suez on a massive road. They're good at road building. Sort of wagon train transporting bits of boat.

just a note: i have a thread linked further back that will probibly become active soon. well, as soon as my ships get back from Aust, at any rate.

did someone say something about going around south america to get to europe?
unless you plan on going around the north, i'd advise against it, it's trecherous, and i'm probibly the only one who would have a shorter distance to ANYWHERE by going through there..

I think it was _from_ Europe to Kirisubo.
Think you coule linky your thread here-ish. cos I've missed it, even if noone else has...

Rise of the Kirisuban Empire (PT)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10247064#post10247064

ooc planning thread
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463732

Umm...Yes the Romans were good at building roads...i could transport parts of boats but then it would take such a long time..i need to buy them...a fleet for 30,000 thats alot of wood...Ostia will pay handsomely to anyone who can produce such a fleet....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465079

there we go, my not yet particularly active thread. it's actually linked on one of the first 4 pages of this thread as well, but there you go.

I might like to have my puppet play. It is made up of eleven races, but for this I would just use 3. Apart from not being human, I would make them very close to human. One is forest dwelling and druidistic like elves, one is mountain dwelling forgers large and strong like vikings, and the last are woolly tundra dwellers.

I don't plan to use any magic or anything. I will make a territory map later if there are no problems.

Aust, it occurs to me that the center of your continatn may actually be the largest natural lake in the world at this point in time, surrounded by forrests, if you did not follow the aboriginal practice of burning off the trees to drive out huntable things.. just a thought, but it would result in that nice Outback you would use to your advantage against heavy troops.. not existing. it would still be hot, but your talking jungle hot, not desert hot. not quite so lethal to the troops, .. well, not in it's own right :)

I like how people are using Warhammer tech (Candle Ice, Toop). ^^

Hmm...I think if possible Tajik and I would ally since we've no reason to fight, and trade would be more beneficial...

The city of Dushanbe is the trade center of central asia, it would welcome all caravans.

Though i'm a great fan of anything within the LotR scene, I am not very familiar with the Warhammer scene. But its nice to know that you can look up things that you do not know.

I like how people are using Warhammer tech (Candle Ice, Toop). ^^

Hmm...I think if possible Tajik and I would ally since we've no reason to fight, and trade would be more beneficial...

With your permission, my guards will see you approaching now.

terra if he comes the other way (round africa,) I'm going to halve the amount of ships I send you. (I was going to send my full fleet) to fight him off. i think i have a better navy, and his ships will be battered and bruised from going round the cape of good hope, but I'll still need to fight him.

Aust, it occurs to me that the center of your continatn may actually be the largest natural lake in the world at this point in time, surrounded by forrests, if you did not follow the aboriginal practice of burning off the trees to drive out huntable things.. just a thought, but it would result in that nice Outback you would use to your advantage against heavy troops.. not existing. it would still be hot, but your talking jungle hot, not desert hot. not quite so lethal to the troops, .. well, not in it's own right :)
I was using the mdoern sort of OZ, jungles in the north, desert in the middle with just a few nomads and frontier towns. My main population base is along the base of the contenant. I ahev towns in the northen jungles but most of my people there are natives. i built a lot of roads linking settlement to settlement, but it's dangerious without a guide, especially the jungle.

If amnything I'd say a jungle is mroe dangerious, theres mroe things that can kill you (heat, exaution, big cats ect.) along with natives and stuff. in fact it's be just about impossable to penitrate and hodl it. Gurillar wars would be incredably effective.

Hmmm. I think he's planning to come via Qarez, in Arabia. (I put the idea in his head...:headbang: ) That means that if he goes straight for you he will need to be stopped separately from the main fleet...but if he tries to RV with them he'll be meeting where they come into battle. Hmmm.

Meeting them near the Maldives looks pretty good to me. Only just under half way from me to Qarez, so I'll get word of the result well before they arrive.

Alternatively, we put everything into stopping one invasion fleet, I'm thinking the northern one, and then RP the land war against the one from the West. After all, they'd have no contact to know they were on their own, and would carry on the plan as originally envisaged.

Want to go to TG's to discuss this one?

terra if he comes the other way (round africa,) I'm going to halve the amount of ships I send you. (I was going to send my full fleet) to fight him off. i think i have a better navy, and his ships will be battered and bruised from going round the cape of good hope, but I'll still need to fight him.

Thats if you know that he is sending you a fleet. You have to remember that our nations are not all knowing of the things happening in the world...even with that ever so convientant spy network of yours.

You don't know i have 30 thousand men approaching from the west into africa..there is no possible way you could have found that out unless you sent spys and what not to Ostia. The army was told it was going to the east, they don't even know they are going through africa..

I know that you're conducting diplomacy with Qarez. If someone, such as Aust, knows you have troops in Kirisubo, it is not that much of a leap that you're bringing troops through to support the invasion. How many and how soon is currently beyond the scope of our knowledge. However, I have many merchants trading in that part of the world, some of whom count as informants.;)

yes...and ...damn it.. ahaha you are right about that. An army like that can only stay hidden for so long..then some one who matters sees it! thats why i am trying to avoid making my presence known till it is time. The size of that army is nothing near weak, it really has nothing to worry about untill it reaches Aust i would imagine..if it was discovered it would probably be by an understrenth unit that would get entirely wiped out anyways.

Things will continue to fall into place..i hope :)

I also see you're planning to link up your Kirisuban and African forces. That itself is ambitious is it not? Without having a fixed point at which they can rendezvous, such as Aust.

thats what i ment, this rather boggles my mind too..im just trying to figure out the most logical way to do it...i could do with some paratroopers LOL. I have sent men discusied as merchants to link with my african force, i cannot link my Kurisuban forces with my African forces because they would cut into eachothers supplys and such...it would be chaos...Aust has to be the place...

So are your guys from Kirisubo sailing with the Frozo/Kiri fleet?

(That makes more sense. Rather than trying to meet on some flyspeck in the Indian Ocean).
((Where the hell are your ships going to come from? At the mo you seem to be marching into Africa. Nothing much there North of Warshrike.))
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(as posted in the conquest thread. Realised the same questions were ending up on both...)

yeah

Thank the Old Ones I reside in Baja California, and don't have to put up with all that!

Have you sent out any explorers or anything yet Candle Ice? do you have a thread?

I might like to have my puppet play. It is made up of eleven races, but for this I would just use 3. Apart from not being human, I would make them very close to human. One is forest dwelling and druidistic like elves, one is mountain dwelling forgers large and strong like vikings, and the last are woolly tundra dwellers.

I don't plan to use any magic or anything. I will make a territory map later if there are no problems.

hopefully someone will see me this time.

hopefully someone will see me this time.

Dont hesitate to jump into one of the ongoing RPs (Someone should really put all the links to threads together) or create your own thread.

Reallydrunk']thats what i ment, this rather boggles my mind too..im just trying to figure out the most logical way to do it...i could do with some paratroopers LOL.


Ahhh, paratroopers...

well, there's always hawk troopers. think hang-gliders, only launched off a modified balista :) great for getting over walls... if they work. otherwise, they're great for landing in the middle of enemy troops, being shot to bits by archers when you can't shoot back, slaming INTO the walls if things go horribly wrong, etc, etc.

I think I'll try to stop the larger-(Northan) fleet and then beat the others in a land war. if it goes to plan that is-Devided and concor.

Oda Noh Nobunaga i'm beginning to see how the Han and Kirisuban plot line is developing.

I'm assuming that word will get back to Kirisubo that the Chiang Lung was lost with all hands in one way or another.

Lets says that Lady Akechi Kaede survives and is stranded in the Han Empire. Think of this as reversal of what happened to William Adams (Muira Anjin) went through when he arrived in Japan.

Maybe Kaede will adapt and start a new life but it will be interesting to see if that happens.

As well as being a linguist she is also a member of a samurai family and can use a sword. she may look like an ordinary kirisuban noble woman but she's not as docile as she looks. She has minor ambitions which she knows can't be met with her marriage to a low ranking samurai officer.

anyway we'll see how this idea develops.

I think I did put together most of the links, couple of pages back, and the remainder followed within that page.

Aust, I'll roll with that plan. Less complicated. As and when the Northern battle ends, my land forces will be coming south to help you out. We can go into details as and when the situation becomes clear.

Oda Noh Nobunaga i'm beginning to see how the Han and Kirisuban plot line is developing.

I'm assuming that word will get back to Kirisubo that the Chiang Lung was lost with all hands in one way or another.

Lets says that Lady Akechi Kaede survives and is stranded in the Han Empire. Think of this as reversal of what happened to William Adams (Muira Anjin) went through when he arrived in Japan.

Maybe Kaede will adapt and start a new life but it will be interesting to see if that happens.

As well as being a linguist she is also a member of a samurai family and can use a sword. she may look like an ordinary kirisuban noble woman but she's not as docile as she looks. She has minor ambitions which she knows can't be met with her marriage to a low ranking samurai officer.

anyway we'll see how this idea develops.

Ok, I think I might work something out along that line, but I can't promise you anything.


Anyway yo, everyone, I got a friend of mine (from RL) who I introduced to NS, and I told him about this rp. He was interested and I think he will sign up.

Hey, I'm Oda's friend. I'm really interested in the RP. My PT nation is a nation of the Ronso race, from Final Fantasy 10.

For an example, a picture is here of what they look like.

http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/10-kimahri-a.jpg

I know, they look really tough. They are bigger than the average human, and that may seem a bit cheap, but I'll give them disadvantages too. As they are bigger and much more stronger than men, they don't use armor, for it is against their beliefs. They believe that anything introducing technology is offensive to their pride. The armor they use, is just what the Ronso is wearing in the picture. Their skin is a bit tougher. The population grows a bit slower, and live longer than normal humans.

Because Oda told me, he suggested that the Ronso population should be kept under a number, perhaps 5 million? This would keep my nation from becoming to amazing.

I'll place my nation in South America, for it fits their tropical likings, although they can survive most climates. What you guys think??

Hey, I'm Oda's friend. I'm really interested in the RP. My PT nation is a nation of the Ronso race, from Final Fantasy 10.

For an example, a picture is here of what they look like.

http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/10-kimahri-a.jpg

I know, they look really tough. They are bigger than the average human, and that may seem a bit cheap, but I'll give them disadvantages too. As they are bigger and much more stronger than men, they don't use armor, for it is against their beliefs. They believe that anything introducing technology is offensive to their pride. The armor they use, is just what the Ronso is wearing in the picture. Their skin is a bit tougher. The population grows a bit slower, and live longer than normal humans.

Because Oda told me, he suggested that the Ronso population should be kept under a number, perhaps 5 million? This would keep my nation from becoming to amazing.

I'll place my nation in South America, for it fits their tropical likings, although they can survive most climates. What you guys think??

as long as theres no magic involved i can't see a problem. would they be living in jungles, aztecs style cities or in some other fashion?

I like the concept :)

Any specific area on the map? The Amazon or the Congo are open if you want tropical and there is also space in northern africa too.

I'd rather take the Amazon, have a sort of desolate area to myself. Expand and such.

Well I have two ideas, either Aztec/Incan type cities in the jungle, or sort of the tree top city idea. Which one you think would be fluffier?

cities in the jungle would probally work best. then you could stay isolated if you wanted to.

most people have made their introductions by exploring or trading so you could also consider that option depending on how xenophobic your nation is.

Map (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6990/ptrpworldmap9at.png)

I think I'm going to go with Incan city/Tree top city. They can mix together nicely. I'll start a thread on Zanarkaand soon. So every agree that I get the amazon? I'll start my population around 5 million

's fine by me. You might get to have some fun with Caladonn (Pink island replacing much of central america). You may well get intrepid Incognitian traders coming through as well. See what happens after the war.

I think I'm going to go with Incan city/Tree top city. They can mix together nicely. I'll start a thread on Zanarkaand soon. So every agree that I get the amazon? I'll start my population around 5 million

if you need any help with RPing an attack on a neighbouring tribe or anything like that give me a shout.

I have a fair idea about incas and aztecs and well as the political situation in the world during the late medieval period.

Map (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6990/ptrpworldmap9at.png)

Nice work adding the names, eventhough its Tadjikistan.

Good, I see he made it. Yea, he likes FF if you didn't notice. :D

if you need any help with RPing an attack on a neighbouring tribe or anything like that give me a shout.

I have a fair idea about incas and aztecs and well as the political situation in the world during the late medieval period.

I would advise a serious improvement in weaponry and armor for these South American peoples, the most powerful Spanish weapon in this period(in this area) was not the musket, it was the sabre, which cut through the Aztecs' wool cloaks like a hot knife through butter.

there are Spanish and Portugese nationals in the Kirisuban thread so theres also a good chance you'll find them in South America as well.

Well they aren't naked for christ sakes! haha. They have armor, its just nothing like samurai armor or iron clad armor. They wear basic things such as metal shoulder pads, gauntlets, and shields. THey don't wear fur for armor haha

Well, the Inca's and Aztecs had axes and shields of stone and wood.
But if you already planned to use armor, then I retract my earlier statement.

I just can't make them have super good armor since they are a bit superior to the average human. Bigger, stronger, climbing skills... they do live in trees ;)

By the way, did you read my first post, i think you would understand more.

When you said you wanted to have an Inca styled civilization, so I concluded that that involved Inca stuff

I meant like an Inca styled city, as in structures

Angermanland, wouldn't the shock of launching rip a hang-glider to pieces?

I mean, you've stated enough limitations that it's a fair unit, so I'm not too bothered if it isn't actually practical, I wouldn't have a problem with you using it...but is it practical?

Practical as in?...

I don't know where to post it, but if OnN expands much further south, I may be forced to take Singapore and mainland Malaysia, to protect my major territories. Looking at the map, having you just the other side of that straight would be uncomfortably close.

As in the hangglider he talked about launching off ballistae.

Sorry, really should have quoted there.

Hi, sorry I've been a bit inactive lately. I plan on getting more involved, and meeting my neighbors to the north and south, Philanchez and Zamarkaand. I don't really have a lot to gain in the Aust war, but I may join it if I'm offered something suitable (Hint, hint).

Anyway, I have settled a lot of the Pacific Island Chains such as Hawaii and the Galapagos, as well as the other island chains beyond Angermanland.

As for my population, I thought we were doing something like your population/100, which would put mine at over 30 billion. For the sake of fairness I'll lower it to 30 billion, and possibly lower if needed.

As for my population, I thought we were doing something like your population/100, which would put mine at over 30 billion. For the sake of fairness I'll lower it to 30 billion, and possibly lower if needed.

30 billion? fair? hmm ... :)

Good, I see he made it. Yea, he likes FF if you didn't notice. :D
Aye, he looks like a good bloke. You ever going tor eply on the Time thread, my Ambasidor/Spy is still standing there...

map (http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9888/ptrpworldmap0vn.png)

30 billion? fair? hmm ...

Im guessing he meant million?

As for expanding, im starting a new thread so you might be able to see what my nation is like there (hint hint).

ehh... it wasn't quite a hanglider, i think.. more like some sort of harnes, the wings were folded and the balista launched much more verticaly than it normaly would, with the men's backs towards the enemy. near the top of the arc, they would flip over to be face down, the wings would catch the air, snap open, stop when they hit the braces [so they didn't just snap off] and off you'd go. in all honesty, i don't know about shock, or how practical they are.

i won't be useing them for a while, at any rate.. balista and so on are not things my guys have worked out yet.

Caladonn, I would be happy to come to a deal. My future plans are highly flexible, so favourable trade agreements, spheres of influence and the like are all on the cards.

EDIT: Also possible are subsidies for any forces you commit, as well as basing rights, etc. We'll have to see.

Can I have these new lands in order to grow more food and have access to some new luxury items, before a new map is made I want to make it easier by saying I do not want any of the islands that aren't already colored in: http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ptrpworldmap7dn0jf.png

The Caribbean and bits of the Americas? Ambitious.

Then again I guess if Caladonn, Philanchez and maybe Zanarkaand are okay with it, it's their continent.

Meh...I kinda just moved in you know? I am still typing up my thread about my nation, what do the others say about it? I can decide then

Lol, maybe I should have a thread. 's a good point you got there.

Aye, he looks like a good bloke. You ever going tor eply on the Time thread, my Ambasidor/Spy is still standing there...

Yea yea, I'm a bit busy, planning a new offensive and preparing to fend off an attack of gobbos from the north. It takes a while.

Oh, and Philancez, I've got the rest of southern vietnam, however that thin peninsula, I leave that to Terror. Also, I am preparing to conquer the rest of India. By now my coastal armies have marched to the south and are joinging with my two southern armies.

Terror, it occurs to me that you and i should have some contact, seeing how our territory is possitioned.. some of my outlaying islands are right near some of your more.. significant ones. so yeah, should probibly have some direct contact, rather than everything going through Aust, as it looks like it will at the moment.

hehe.. hopefully you'll get a more friendly first contact. .. well, second contact really.. but the first one with humans involved rather than simple narative.

Yea yea, I'm a bit busy, planning a new offensive and preparing to fend off an attack of gobbos from the north. It takes a while.

Oh, and Philancez, I've got the rest of southern vietnam, however that thin peninsula, I leave that to Terror. Also, I am preparing to conquer the rest of India. By now my coastal armies have marched to the south and are joinging with my two southern armies.

Its quite possible that I'll expand in that direction too, I havent decided yet. The South of my empire is very open so movement by local troops goes very fast.

Its quite possible that I'll expand in that direction too, I havent decided yet. The South of my empire is very open so movement by local troops goes very fast.

Oda is my puppet who I am using for this. (Hi guys...) Anyway Tadjik, I have three of my imperial armies down there on ym border...something like 750,000 soldiers and three of my best generals leading that force. I'd hate for them to be stumbling into some force of yours.

The land to the north is open for grabs, that lake above me, it about as far north as I plan or have future plans, to expand to, so anything west and north of that is all yours...

Hey guys started my initial thread for my nation.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10430322#post10430322

Please check it out. As for Tadjik...good luck if you decide to expand.

Oda, i've just made things interesting. If Kaede is to die the governor will have to do the job himself in front of his own men.

Oda is my puppet who I am using for this. (Hi guys...) Anyway Tadjik, I have three of my imperial armies down there on ym border...something like 750,000 soldiers and three of my best generals leading that force. I'd hate for them to be stumbling into some force of yours.

The land to the north is open for grabs, that lake above me, it about as far north as I plan or have future plans, to expand to, so anything west and north of that is all yours...

The North isnt very interesting and I will go west, because i want to reach the Caspian sea. But India could serve as a buffer for the Empire.
I havent decided yet, but its quite possible that i'll move Southeast.

as far as i remember India at this point in history is still a set of independant kingdoms which fight each other occasionally.

I have the feeling that this will be a more even fight than the conquest of Korea.

Dunno, does it have to come to war?
Bah if it does I'll start with some tactics I havent used yet. Or I'll move back into the mountains and teach the Han Empire why Afghanistan has never been occupied by another nation(No, the Soviet presence was not an occupation).

Oda, thanks for that, I appreciate it. A force will be moving in soon to occupy. Make sure you leave some mark of the limit of your claim, so I don't accidentally go too far.

Angermanland, good plan. We should have direct contact. Don't suppose I can interest you in fighting some Frozopians and Ostians and the like? Either way, talk and trade should be to both our advantage.

I may be mistaken, but aren't the Moghuls a fairly large and confident empire across much of India right now? Might be able to resist even you Oda, especially with some help from Tadjik....

Babur the Tiger defeated the Moghul lords and expanded his empire up to the gulf of Bengal in the early 16th century, He wasnt the first and he wouldnt be the last. The Afghans sacked Delhi and slaughtered its inhabitants in 1737 under Nadir Shah.
The Afghan empires usually fell apart because an Aghan tribe or commander tried to become the new ruler. Nadir Shah was killed by his own officers during a campaign in 1747.

Tadjikistan, I have direct access to the west..right now i am going to war with Aust and Terror Incognitia with my Allies Kurisubo and Frozopia. I would like to speak of an alliance, you will be granted access to Ostia's ports and the sea with out any opposition from my armys which i am placing all over Ostia for defence purposes. The Emperor feels it is in the best intrests of the Ostian people to beef up our military. A draft has went out aswell and more legions are being created and their training will comence immeaditly.

Also i will be expanding into Africa hoping to occupy and govern the lands of RL (Egypt, Tunisa and Algeria). If and when this happens you as my allie will be rewarded greatly...in the mean time i could...assist you in a little problem you have to the East...?

Telegram me, inform me of what you think...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10432777#post10432777


The Holy Empire of Ostia thread. I thought i would make one so it would be easier to explain whats going on in my Nation at this point in time.

well then, terror, my thread or yours? if it's mine it means you get to sail into my territory, and vice versa. do you have a thread yet? i lost track.

Tag. This is Tidan, I am going to join with Hyr. I am going to be in west africa near nigeria. I will make a territory map and open a thread tomorrow or friday.

This is my first attempt at forum-based rping, so I'm new to this.

Region: Olustar, a.k.a. The Island of Dreaor.

The Olustarian empire is located west of Corsica, and South of Gaul, and was discovered by Romans shipwrecked upon it's cliffs many years ago. However, it is not a part of Rome. On it's shores they discovered Dreaorians, a grey-skinned, red-eyed people with many strange customs. The land is divided among varying Great houses.

House Calay, a house filled with warriors and soldiers, who oversee foreign affairs and the defense of the island.

House Chanim, a house of merchants, traders, theives, and plotters who are the only naval force about the island (there is little inn the way of a navy becasue the island is mostly cliffsy, with strong surface and density currents surrounding it).

House Kichum, a house of Barbarians and Bear-sarks, spread amongst the jungles, mountains and plains, they rule the roads alone, as they dominate the toughest areas for travelling through.

House Salokm, the house of Assassains and Archeaologists, who study the ways of the Shades, who inhabited the isle long ago, as well as other mercenary services.

House Arkha-Num, house of magics and intrigues. Note: Arkha-Num interacts so rarely with the outside world that they do not communicate with others without some heavy bribery, to the point where for all intents and purposes, they will not be able to be interacted with.

The island is under the controll of Calay, more specifically The Immortal N'ktalloth Calay, 6th dragon (honorary title) of Calay, and 3rd circle demon (not "eat your soul" demon, in Dreaorian religion it refers to a being who is neither mortal nor god. In other words, he can be killed, but the process to do so is very specific. He does not leave the island, and rarely personnaly engages enemy forces.).

If you wish to add Olustar into the rp, send a telegram to The Holy Empire of Olustar, with a specific address to whichever great house you contact. Hope to hear from you!

Remember, I'm new to forum rp.

as far as i remember India at this point in history is still a set of independant kingdoms which fight each other occasionally.

I have the feeling that this will be a more even fight than the conquest of Korea.

I know, I was planning on having my army split into either two or three army groups, roughly 250,000 to 200,000 each, and move around taking cities. And I am going to have one big battle where the princes of Inda make a last stand.


Tadjik...I'd like to not have to make war with you. I got my own problems, and if your wanting to spread west as well, then its not good to have a two front war. Han can because its size and population makes it flexible, however I'm not sure of you.

And I've already started the conquest of India. Should I post that in a new thread?

This is my first attempt at forum-based rping, so I'm new to this.

Region: Olustar, a.k.a. The Island of Dreaor.

The Olustarian empire is located west of Corsica, and South of Gaul, and was discovered by Romans shipwrecked upon it's cliffs many years ago. However, it is not a part of Rome. On it's shores they discovered Dreaorians, a grey-skinned, red-eyed people with many strange customs. The land is divided among varying Great houses.

House Calay, a house filled with warriors and soldiers, who oversee foreign affairs and the defense of the island.

House Chanim, a house of merchants, traders, theives, and plotters who are the only naval force about the island (there is little inn the way of a navy becasue the island is mostly cliffsy, with strong surface and density currents surrounding it).

House Kichum, a house of Barbarians and Bear-sarks, spread amongst the jungles, mountains and plains, they rule the roads alone, as they dominate the toughest areas for travelling through.

House Salokm, the house of Assassains and Archeaologists, who study the ways of the Shades, who inhabited the isle long ago, as well as other mercenary services.

House Arkha-Num, house of magics and intrigues. Note: Arkha-Num interacts so rarely with the outside world that they do not communicate with others without some heavy bribery, to the point where for all intents and purposes, they will not be able to be interacted with.

The island is under the controll of Calay, more specifically The Immortal N'ktalloth Calay, 6th dragon (honorary title) of Calay, and 3rd circle demon (not "eat your soul" demon, in Dreaorian religion it refers to a being who is neither mortal nor god. In other words, he can be killed, but the process to do so is very specific. He does not leave the island, and rarely personnaly engages enemy forces.).

If you wish to add Olustar into the rp, send a telegram to The Holy Empire of Olustar, with a specific address to whichever great house you contact. Hope to hear from you!

Remember, I'm new to forum rp.


welcome, welcome, welcome. Happy to have you...and I think we get that your new to the forum.

I'll mention it a few more times for good measure.
*Grins*

I know, I was planning on having my army split into either two or three army groups, roughly 250,000 to 200,000 each, and move around taking cities. And I am going to have one big battle where the princes of Inda make a last stand.


Tadjik...I'd like to not have to make war with you. I got my own problems, and if your wanting to spread west as well, then its not good to have a two front war. Han can because its size and population makes it flexible, however I'm not sure of you.

And I've already started the conquest of India. Should I post that in a new thread?

The war in the West can be postponed for a while, I havent started yet and its mostly against small kingdoms and khanates, they can be stopped by a local governor if need be.
Furthermore my armies main advantage is its flexibility, with a wide variety of units from different ethnic groups I have one of the most flexible armies around.
I'll wait till you're at war with the Indians, then move in to take undefended land. If you really think NPC owned land is worth a war then by all means...

This is my first attempt at forum-based rping, so I'm new to this.

Region: Olustar, a.k.a. The Island of Dreaor.

The Olustarian empire is located west of Corsica, and South of Gaul, and was discovered by Romans shipwrecked upon it's cliffs many years ago. However, it is not a part of Rome. On it's shores they discovered Dreaorians, a grey-skinned, red-eyed people with many strange customs. The land is divided among varying Great houses.

House Calay, a house filled with warriors and soldiers, who oversee foreign affairs and the defense of the island.

House Chanim, a house of merchants, traders, theives, and plotters who are the only naval force about the island (there is little inn the way of a navy becasue the island is mostly cliffsy, with strong surface and density currents surrounding it).

House Kichum, a house of Barbarians and Bear-sarks, spread amongst the jungles, mountains and plains, they rule the roads alone, as they dominate the toughest areas for travelling through.

House Salokm, the house of Assassains and Archeaologists, who study the ways of the Shades, who inhabited the isle long ago, as well as other mercenary services.

House Arkha-Num, house of magics and intrigues. Note: Arkha-Num interacts so rarely with the outside world that they do not communicate with others without some heavy bribery, to the point where for all intents and purposes, they will not be able to be interacted with.

The island is under the controll of Calay, more specifically The Immortal N'ktalloth Calay, 6th dragon (honorary title) of Calay, and 3rd circle demon (not "eat your soul" demon, in Dreaorian religion it refers to a being who is neither mortal nor god. In other words, he can be killed, but the process to do so is very specific. He does not leave the island, and rarely personnaly engages enemy forces.).

If you wish to add Olustar into the rp, send a telegram to The Holy Empire of Olustar, with a specific address to whichever great house you contact. Hope to hear from you!

Remember, I'm new to forum rp.
Velcome! HAHAHA! That done with, welcome to the RP forums. I hope you enjoy Rping with us, as a 'vet' (According to some) It's great to see ne faces appearing

Hey just saying that I'm gonna put more onto my thread about Zanarkaand. Read up on it

By the way, welcome Olustar :)

Tadjik, I bow to superior knowledge *bows*

Angermanland, your thread, I haven't made one yet (my bad, I know...getting there. Polishing the nation description jobby.) Traders will be arriving shortly. Make that...about 10 this evening (GMT)? We shall see.

Has anyone seen Nuralla recently?

With all due respect, unless I missed the relevant thread, I haven't seen you lately...

Welcome Olustar. You may be hearing from me.

EDIT: what happened to the guy with 10,000 mercenaries? Whoever you are, I may have a job for you.

Here is the thread where I have begun the invasion of RL India.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469120

Should be interesting, if Tadjik still wants to go to war over it...

No idea, and ive been watching at waiting, ive got noone to fight, unless you will let me do an Alexander and expand my empire all the way to the Indus in a very quick campaign im just going to have to wait.

Also, guys, I was wanting to ask if you guys think it would be ok for me to have a Kensai (a japanese word taken from a chinese one) which means "sword-saint". A title given to a person who has reached an unparalleled level of swordsman ship. Since I'm china, where martial arts sorta begun, I thought it would be nice to have one person who teaches the sword at my Imperial School, and who I may use on a battlefield every now and then.

What you guys think?

No idea, and ive been watching at waiting, ive got noone to fight, unless you will let me do an Alexander and expand my empire all the way to the Indus in a very quick campaign im just going to have to wait.

lol...I'm already at the Indus...and expanding south to the southern tip of india.

I meant go all the way to the Tadjikistan border, your invading non-player controlled territory, does that mean i can do the same?

I meant go all the way to the Tadjikistan border, your invading non-player controlled territory, does that mean i can do the same?

Yup, its all up to you though to make sure if you know that you will run into locals, to rp some resistance.

Also, guys, I was wanting to ask if you guys think it would be ok for me to have a Kensai (a japanese word taken from a chinese one) which means "sword-saint". A title given to a person who has reached an unparalleled level of swordsman ship. Since I'm china, where martial arts sorta begun, I thought it would be nice to have one person who teaches the sword at my Imperial School, and who I may use on a battlefield every now and then.

What you guys think?

Sure, sounds pretty good. I mean its just like any other general type character one of us make. Just as long as he's not immortal ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469128

Tadjik feel free to intervene at any point. I dont really expect Force A to make any progress, but itl be interesting how much they do.

EDIT: what happened to the guy with 10,000 mercenaries? Whoever you are, I may have a job for you.

I don't know, I believe it was a nation called Wintrees, I wanted his help on the Toop Moon campaign but I couldn't find him.

Hey guys, I updated my nations post, check it out. I started marching.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10436939#post10436939

I don't know, I believe it was a nation called Wintrees, I wanted his help on the Toop Moon campaign but I couldn't find him.

And your gonna need a loooooot of help....:D


goblins > :headbang: :sniper: < me

Phwoo...OK...after that embarrassment...I posted in here before, but didn't follow up. I'd like too now. Is it possible I could claim some territory and get involved?

And your gonna need a loooooot of help....:D


goblins > :headbang: :sniper: < me

:(

you make the baby Grobble cry :P

speaking of which I've RP'd a part my forces reaching the gate and another two going off to explore further weaknesses.

Erm...can I claim that sub-continent south of India?

Phwoo...OK...after that embarrassment...I posted in here before, but didn't follow up. I'd like too now. Is it possible I could claim some territory and get involved?

very possible. grab a reasonable chunk of territory some where, tell us where it is, start a thread for your nation giveing background info and stuff [this is where most things in your sphear of influance will occure, though wars seem to get their own threads] link it here, and get to it :D

the one smack in between africa and australia there? kinda over sized island?

:(

you make the baby Grobble cry :P

speaking of which I've RP'd a part my forces reaching the gate and another two going off to explore further weaknesses.

Having two months rp time to prepare for a siege. Boy am I gonna enjoy this. :p

Yeah that one. And some of those tiny islands south of India.

Yeah that one. And some of those tiny islands south of India.

Philancez will fix you up with it on the map when he has the time. No worries. It will be interesting to see what happens now that we have a third island nation in the Pacific/Indian Ocean area.

Aust, Terror, Angermanland, and I think myself are planning to ally or already have. (I'm still out of the loop on that)

actually, to avoid some of the current expansionisem going on in those areas, i suggest starting with only the southern half of [you get to name you're own land mass :P] and RPing the expansion and/or contact with warshrike.

Philancez will fix you up with it on the map when he has the time. No worries. It will be interesting to see what happens now that we have a third island nation in the Pacific/Indian Ocean area.

Aust, Terror, Angermanland, and I think myself are planning to ally or already have. (I'm still out of the loop on that)

what you're in on that one too? first i heard/noticed of it. at any rate, it looks like it's going to be a very uneasy aliance if first impressions are anything to go by, at least between Aust and Angermanland. hehe. the only reason it's probilby going to go through, given the cultural differences there, is that terror allied with Aust, meaning anything trying to bypass him goes through me :S

actually, to avoid some of the current expansionisem going on in those areas, i suggest starting with only the southern half of [you get to name you're own land mass :P] and RPing the expansion and/or contact with warshrike.

Sounds good. I'll put up my my first post in a bit. Probably some stuff about me expanding north and a ship heading for Africa...

Ok, here is my claim. I'm in the north part of Patagonia. I am working on my intro as I speak. As soon as it is done I will post that link in here.

http://images.filecloud.com/115145/ptrpworldmaphyredit.jpg

Claim is here... http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/havoc88/ptrpworldmap0vn.png

And my thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10437387#post10437387

Well hello there Hyr. Down there on the southern tip of South America looking continent. Welcome! Haha!

Well besides the fact, lets see how our RP's run. Good luck

Still writing intro...

Hello Zanarkaand. Yes we are neighbors, but don't worry I'm not a very expansionist person. (besides I don't think my people are very comfortable in the rainforest) But I plan to send some explorers out and hopefully we will meet soon.

No worries my friend....yet. Muahaha! just kidding. We will see how things turn out. We are bound to meet up. The only difference between us is we like and live in the forest, while you dont :P

Ill edit the map.

Oh and Scandinvans, no, just no...

Cool, lookin forward to see the progress of the map. By the Hyr, my thread is http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468984 just in case you need to RP inside it for any reason. Good night guys

Oda, after that: Aust, Terror, Angermanland, and I think myself are planning to ally or already have. (I'm still out of the loop on that)
I would welcome having you on board. A quiet invasion of Kirisubo while they're busy would be great :D

Kilani, as and when you get a thread up (he says..I know I haven't done one yet) I'd be interested in diplomatic talks...there's going to be an Austian fleet just sort of drifting past to your north shortly...if you could see your way clear to...interfering...with them, I would appreciate it. Massively.

Of course, if not, you've got half a mini-continent up for grabs:cool:
I have lots of surplus population *rubs hands and cackles evilly*.

We can discuss it I'm sure.

Angermanland...are you in then? I mean...it's not as if we'd leave you in the lurch. If they split the invasion fleet (they'd be fools, but...) you can probably handle part with whatever help we can send, and if they don't, three combined navies against an Armada would be at the least a fair scrap...and at most a turkey shoot. Plus of course Aust pride themselves on honour, so if you help them out they couldn't exactly attack you. And your islands, near me at least, are too small for me to be interested in. So we'd be no threat to you afterwards.
Well, I've sent a merchant to you. Can hold talks in Aust, or I can express a diplo to your islands.

Map (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8176/ptrpworldmap7jk.png)

Anyone who allies with Aust will fall aswell. A massive army is being formed to crush all opposition it encounters then occupy the lands it has conquered. With Ostian troops preparing on the nile it makes it even easier to transport everything needed silently through the rear. Although it is Egypt and the current Pharoah will not like an armys advance into their lands so Ostia will have to keep their pathway.

yeah, i'm in. i'm just RPing actually comeing into contact with the people and doing the diplomatic stuff.

heh.. my navy's amuseing. VERY fast, but not a ranged weapon in it. reinforced bows on the waka though, and grappleing hooks and nasty melee troops.

ummm.. if you have some method of sending messages home quickly from Aust, we could do some interacting there to justify you sending a diplomat to me, or we could just go with the merchant who's already in my territory as being a "temporary emmisary" and use that as a reason for a diplomat... and i need Aust to respond to my post in "time" soonish...

What do I need to do to join this? I would like to become PT ICly and after looking at the Map I would like to be the Mongols/Huns/People of the Steppes. Is this OK?

Ha. Ha. Ha. Oh, no, Reallydrunk isn't joking :eek:
He's just really, really drunk :p :p :p

You really, really, haven't got much of a chance at Aust. I reckon even if we just left the invasion fleets to hit Aust and fought them there we'd have a fair shout, but considering chances are the main fleet won't reach Aust in the first place...
I know your legions are impressive, but 30,000 against all of Aust? A nation of (IIRC) 15 million? Plus all of what I can send, and maybe more help as well?

To be fair, anything could happen, but I don't rate your chances.

Hey I got the Falkland Islands too? cool. hehe, I didn't have them in my claim but you can leave them in there if you want to. Either way thanks for putting me on the map. As the keeper of the FT galaxy map I know how hard it can be to please everyone sometimes.

Here is my Intro and I guess central thread.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469168

What do I need to do to join this? I would like to become PT ICly and after looking at the Map I would like to be the Mongols/Huns/People of the Steppes. Is this OK?

simply start a PT thread and stake your claim on the map.

its that simple.

Well, Toops and or Oda might have something to say about that...but the steppes is a biiiig place, so it'll probably be ok. Speaking as someone all the way over in Indonesia, I'm fine with that.

All of a sudden this place is all go. I probably won't be back until Sunday evening. Pleeease don't post too much before then, I don't like having to catch up:(

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469128

Tadjik feel free to intervene at any point. I dont really expect Force A to make any progress, but itl be interesting how much they do.

A can go where it wants, but the southern tip of B wont be completed and Iran(C) is another target of mine.

Well, Toops and or Oda might have something to say about that...but the steppes is a biiiig place, so it'll probably be ok. Speaking as someone all the way over in Indonesia, I'm fine with that.

I'm breaking out of Oda's control to become united and independent. Also I'm not sure whether to call him Oda or China which one?

lol...I'm already at the Indus...and expanding south to the southern tip of india.

1. If you check the map you'll see the Indus is mine
2. Isnt that a bit fast?

Anyhow, the connection with the Caspian sea has priority and someone else has ambitions in this direction so India wont see my troops passing by just yet.

I'm breaking out of Oda's control to become united and independent. Also I'm not sure whether to call him Oda or China which one?

He's Han China, so try 'Han'(and Hanese for its peoples)

I do not have any intent to send my 30 thousand troops till i know the invasion force has landed in Aust. If i did send them they would be depleated upon arrival. I am also open to diplomatic relations now...Ostia has a thread, feel free to post on there...any discussions.

The thread is up.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469177

Quvestion, is it too late to change my location? I just realised Olustar couldn't fit in the mediterranean, so I'd like to shift myself over to the Atlantic ocean, if that's allright.

1. If you check the map you'll see the Indus is mine
2. Isnt that a bit fast?

Anyhow, the connection with the Caspian sea has priority and someone else has ambitions in this direction so India wont see my troops passing by just yet.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean the Indus, I meant the Ganges River, which is my current border with whats left of unoccupied territory. Once I conquer the rest of India, the Indus would be our border in that area...

I think we all owe Philanchez a big round of applause and thanks for editing the map all the time. Phil, your awsome.

*bows and claps to phil*

Ya seriously thanks Phil! You the man!

I'm breaking out of Oda's control to become united and independent. Also I'm not sure whether to call him Oda or China which one?

Wait...Milchama. The Han Empire doesn't rule over anything north of the great wall. *cough* note the fighting going on between toops and him.

yay phil. much yay. maps rock :D

I'm sorry, I didn't mean the Indus, I meant the Ganges River, which is my current border with whats left of unoccupied territory. Once I conquer the rest of India, the Indus would be our border in that area...

If you're at the Ganges, then that changes everything. Thats possible, I retract my statement
I compared my possessions with a World Map and I also own the Eastern banks of the Indus.

Oh and special Thanks to Philanchez, who is also running an active region on NS, nice work.

Another warm welcome to all new people in the PT realm, especially Milchama who did not qualify for the World Cup (partly my fault with my highranked team)

Perhaps Tadjik we can make concessions to one another. I'm already close to conquering india. Once done I'd rather have a river (Indus) between each other; and its a natural advantage for me if I was to attack since any force you would use to garrison this border would be between me and the river. Good situation for my cavalry since the terrain is flat.

So I will concede you the tibet area where that bandit king was in return for moving a few dozen meters north so that the river is the border. That ok? Or should we find some other means to clearify where the border is?

I think since I defeated the bandit king that I already own his territory.
I'm certainly not going to give up terrain in the South, its too important to me.

I think since I defeated the bandit king that I already own his territory.
I'm certainly not going to give up terrain in the South, its too important to me.

Well did you defeat the bandit king on his land, or on your own? That makes a difference

I burnt the bandit kings city, so I took his land (or most of it)

I burnt the bandit kings city, so I took his land (or most of it)

Well thats relative. Your army is encamped outside what his former capital city. You control it but do not have administrative power over the land around it. Thus its more like a 'no-mans land' meaning that I could in legal terms invade it without it being an invasion of your land. Your forces being there and the engagement of our troops would be considered an act of war but it would be of a considered 'neutral' territory. Until you have adminitrative control and have been there for an extended period of time, then its viably 'yours'.

But this is only if I chose to send forces into the area. That would simply cause unwanted tension between us, since after all, you have Spizania's campaign of expansion to worry about and your own interests in the west to consider.

The Imperial Banner was raised and the land claimed in the name of the Emperor during our meeting, appearantly the only peoples who could contest that did(or could) not.
This is not modern times where you have to set up a whole deal of documents. General Corazin is a high officer and nobleman of the Emperors court, If he claims this land in the name of the Empire, it belongs to the Empire and noone else, he IS the administrative power over this land that belongs with the city, do not forget that Kirgiz troops moved around the city, they captured the lands around it to avoid enemy troops escaping.

The Imperial Banner was raised and the land claimed in the name of the Emperor during our meeting, appearantly the only peoples who could contest that did(or could) not.
This is not modern times where you have to set up a whole deal of documents. General Corazin is a high officer and nobleman of the Emperors court, If he claims this land in the name of the Empire, it belongs to the Empire and noone else, he IS the administrative power over this land that belongs with the city, do not forget that Kirgiz troops moved around the city, they captured the lands around it to avoid enemy troops escaping.

General Corazin raising a banner over a city he just captured is not your land. Its occupied territory.

Thats why as soon as I conquer more land, I send in my Imperial Court Administratum which organizes it into a new province. Later the Emperor will apoint a governor to over see the province. Once thats done then its officially my land.

Like right now I've set up two more provinces: the areas of vietnam, cambodia, and laos into one, and the rest of that land (parts of India, Burma, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Thailand). They're still in their rudimentry stages, but the Imperial court is being pretty well accepted by those who speak a language similar to our own.

So what I am saying is that the area where the Bandit King was is by "legal" terms considered occupied territory. You've only just taken the city. An army general sitting in a burned out castle is not an administration. And the local people would not accept you for some time (even at the point of a sword). Thus those who would wish to, could call that a pretext to annexing that land and saying you were nice enough to get rid of the bothersome inhabitants.

All I want is to give you a better way to defend your southern India border, and at the same time let you have that land of the Bandit King....so I don't really understand why we're arguing.

I dont know what there is to argue about, If someone takes an NPC nation, it is legally his. There will only be an upsrising if I, the owner, want there to be one so the term occupied territory isnt really something you'd use in this case.

Corazin is not just an army officer, if you return to my thread you'll notice in one of the first posts that he is advisor to the Emperor.
Secondly Athanaro's job as governor was taken from him by Corazin and the latter may give that task to whoever he deems capable.
Corazin has the same (even more actually) powers as you Imperial Court Administration, in fact unless the Emperors tells him otherwise, he can do whatever he wishes.
I currently have about 4 more noblemen/officers with similar powers.

Compare him to Himmler, at one point he commanded a whole army group but that does not make him just an army general, no he was Reichsfuhrer, he could set up provinces and departments wherever he wished for whatever the purpose unless Hitler told him otherwise.

Thats not actually a viable excuse or explanation since this is past tech, and the fact that is NPC means that its "no-mans-land". So Tadjik, I would say that Oda is right in that its not your land, yet. I would say thats its occupied territory. Over all I think that Oda is giving you the benefit of the doubt...so why not do like he mentioned and withdraw north of the Indus dude? I mean you get a natural barrier and more land. Whats bad about that?

And you have a lot more room up north...a LOT more room.

thanks for the applause guys! could i get a brief summation of any border movements or such. oh and i plan on moveing west soon so anyone planning on claiming land there, your screwed...

I would like to declare i am in the process of turning RL Egypt into an Ostian Province.

i need some advice.

given the presence of the Portugese and Spanish in Kirisubo's back story I would assume that the Portuguese have the lease on Macao and the Spanish have taken the Phillipines if we follow the historical record.

therefore would these neutral lands in the picture have a part to play in the war either as neutral merchants, peace brokers or even explorers?

No-one is controlling them yet so I'm wondering where they're going to fit into the regional politics.

Thats not actually a viable excuse or explanation since this is past tech, and the fact that is NPC means that its "no-mans-land". So Tadjik, I would say that Oda is right in that its not your land, yet. I would say thats its occupied territory. Over all I think that Oda is giving you the benefit of the doubt...so why not do like he mentioned and withdraw north of the Indus dude? I mean you get a natural barrier and more land. Whats bad about that?

And you have a lot more room up north...a LOT more room.

The city and its surroundings are Tadjik(because I conquered them), just like the banks of the Indus. And my interests are in the South, not the North thankyou.

i need some advice.

given the presence of the Portugese and Spanish in Kirisubo's back story I would assume that the Portuguese have the lease on Macao and the Spanish have taken the Phillipines if we follow the historical record.

therefore would these neutral lands in the picture have a part to play in the war either as neutral merchants, peace brokers or even explorers?

No-one is controlling them yet so I'm wondering where they're going to fit into the regional politics.

by the way we've been reckoning it.. they shouldn't even exist. at all. and they're not a great colonial power as yet... so mostly they're fairly irrelivant unless some peeps in europe want to stomp them. ehh, i suppose you could have a random spanish or portugues merchant turn up easy enough.... blah, save me the hastle of tyring to spell. call the whole lot iberian :D

Kilani, as and when you get a thread up (he says..I know I haven't done one yet) I'd be interested in diplomatic talks...there's going to be an Austian fleet just sort of drifting past to your north shortly...if you could see your way clear to...interfering...with them, I would appreciate it. Massively.

Of course, if not, you've got half a mini-continent up for grabs:cool:
I have lots of surplus population *rubs hands and cackles evilly*.

We can discuss it I'm sure.


Of course. The new Imperial Fleet will encounter them and of course, ask tehir business. Just point me to the right thread(s) and I'll get on it. And when you get a thread up, let me know. My Emmpire would be interested in contact with anyone they can find.

You can post on my thread...The Holy Empire of Ostia

Philanchez, would it be possible have the most northernly island in the philipines.

its all kirisubo needs at the moment.

* heres a bag of cookies for you *

I'm quite interested in this. Is it possible for me to lay claim to what remains of France?

I would be glad to have you as a neibour, :) could you give us some information on your nation please ?

I'm quite interested in this. Is it possible for me to lay claim to what remains of France?

The real question is...would you want to? :p

Why not have RL Spain and Portugal? Have nice natural borders and mountainous terrain within to confuse even the most deliberate attacker.

Oda, check your thread.

I'm quite interested in this. Is it possible for me to lay claim to what remains of France?

may i suggest claiming iberia [spain and portegaul[sp]] and france untill your borders meet Ostea and the Scandinavians? makes you about the right size for stuff in the area, at least, and tidys up the map. not to mention controling it tideys up the nice "why the heck are spain and portugaul mentioned several times in this rp?" question :)

Hey Hyr, ok in my thread we can have the encounter. See ya there.

Oh and Caladon where's your thread? I need to tag it

or subscribe to it, if the subscription thing actually works. got growled for tagging. the subscription thingy had never worked. i said as much. it promptly decided to work... spooty thing.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10246981

Here's my thread once again- it covers diplomatic actions, so far only with Terror Incognita but soon hopefully with Philanchez, Zanarkaand and Hyr, as well as colonisation etc.

Hey, all players in North/South America, I'm thinking of a joint conference in Calad, capital of Caladonn for all of our nations: Philanchez, Scandinvans, Caladonn, Zanarkaand and Hyr, as well as that swamp guy in Baja California. It'd be cool to have some kind of international meeting for the hemisphere.